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Uh
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now I recording in progress.
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Now I call to order the Shoreline City Council
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17, 2026, will you please
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join the council for the flag salute.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United
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States of America to the republic for which it
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stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty
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and justice
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Thank you. Well, the clerk please call the roll.
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Mayor Robertson, Deputy Mayor Pobee
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Councilmember Snyder. Here
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Councilmember Roberts Councilmember Ademasu present.
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Councilmember Mark present Councilmember Scully present.
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Is there a motion to excuse That are
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missing members. I move to excuse
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Mayor Robertson and Deputy Mayor Pobee for personal reasons. Second.
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Thank you. Uh, if there are no objections, the
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motion shall pass by unanimous consent.
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Our first item on the agenda, the first item
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is approval of tonight's agenda Are there any objections
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or comments? Seeing none, the agenda
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is adopted by unanimous consent
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Next is a report from the acting city
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manager, Mr. Branstetter. Good evening, counsel.
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I have a few updates to share this statement. First, here's a quick update
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on our community emergency response team, also
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known as CERT. The October Cert basics course is building
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up fast. There are only a few spots left. This
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free 3 day course is open to Shoreline community members and city
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staff. Registration is required so if you're interested, please sign up using
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the QR code on your screen. We've had a great response to this training
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and staff is already looking into offering another cert course
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in late 26 or early 27. There's another
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free preparedness opportunity coming up in January, the
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disaster preparedness and survival course will teach more hands-on skills
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for getting ready for responding to and recovering from emergencies.
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Earlier this month, Shoreline
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hosted a special pickleball event to celebrate National Pickleball Day
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partnering with diversity and inclusion in pickleball. Over
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150 people joined throughout the day, and more than 20 volunteers
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coaches, and helpers made the event possible. We also gave out
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over 35 donated paddles for participants
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to take home. The event was free and brought together players of all
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ages, backgrounds and experience levels. I'd like to thank recreation
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supervisor Angie Rance and
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recreation specialist Mary Anne Johnson for helping bring together this partnership
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to Shoreline, as well as Sue Goodwin and all the DIIAP volunteers who made this day
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a great success. The event is a great example
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of equity in action through recreation. It removed, excuse me
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it removed barriers and created a welcoming space for everyone where everyone
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could join in.
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At Celebrate Shoreline this past
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weekend, staff continued our community education around the new roundabouts at
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the 140 5th Street Interchange, as you can see in this photo, some
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of our young residents really enjoyed testing the roundabout layout
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with model cars. It turned out to be a great way to bring families over to our table.
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While kids tried out the roadway, parents had the opportunity
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to ask staff questions about lane choices yielding, and
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how to safely navigate the new interchange. These kinds
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of hands-on conversations are especially helpful as drivers get used to the
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new roadway and we'll continue looking for opportunities
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to make this transition easier.
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Looking ahead, are our last energized shoreline workshop
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of 2026 is tomorrow evening, August 18th, from 6:30
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to 7:30 at City Hall. Residents can learn about heat pump technology.
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Ways to save energy. Available rebates
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and financing and incentives that could save them up to $6000 on a qualifying
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heat pump. The workshop is available in person and online.
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If you're coming in person, you can register at the door
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For more information or to register, please
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visit shorelinewah.gov/goelectric.
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We have two shoreline walk events happening this week. Join our
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walk leaders on Tuesday for the Meridian Trail
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Meridian Park loop walk and Saturday for the Lake Ballinger
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Interurban Trail Walk. These guided walks are a great
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way to explore shorelines neighborhoods, parks, and community
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destinations. To learn more or to sign up for a walk, visit
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shorelinewah.gov/shorelinewalks
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And finally I have just a few public reminders to share
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Counsel will be on break the rest of the summer, so the next city council meeting will take
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place on Monday
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September 14th at 7 p.m. here in the council chambers. The planning
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commission will meet on Thursday, September 3rd, also in the
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city council chambers at 7 p.m. And the parks, recreation
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and Cultural services tree board's next meeting is Thursday
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September 24th at 7 p.m. in conference
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room 303 at City Hall. Meeting details, agenda
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and additional information can be found
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at shorelinewah.gov/calendar. This concludes the city manager's report.
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Thank you, Mr. Branstadter. Uh, are there
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any council reports? This evening.
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Councilmember Ademasu.
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Thank you. I I
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attended Washington's water future, virtual
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input session and
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local governments. You also can make
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public comment on Department of Ecology's website through
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August 31st with your comments on our water future. Thank you.
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Seeing no other hands indicating that
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for a council report, next on the agenda is
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public comment. This is the opportunity for members
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of the public to address the city council on agenda items or
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other matter pertaining to city business for a 3 minutes or less, depending on
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the number of people wishing to speak. The total public
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comment period will be no more than 30 minutes if more than 10 people
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are assigned, are assigned up to speak. Each speaker will be allocated 2 minutes.
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Please note there is also an opportunity to speak after
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agenda item 8A this evening. Action
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of resolution number 567. Miss Hardy, how
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many individuals have signed up to speak. I have
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6 speakers for general comment.
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Uh, thank you. That means each speaker will get 3 minutes.
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Um, before we begin, I'd like to ask our audience to
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refrain from clapping, booing, or other outbursts. We want
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to make sure every speaker feels safe and respected while sharing
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their perspective regardless of whether the room agrees with them.
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Thank you for helping us keep this space neutral
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productive, and welcoming. The clerk will call on
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each person in-person speakers first and remote
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speakers second when it is your turn, please state your name, city, residence, and
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any organization represented. Please be advised that your testimony is being recarded.
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Ms. Hardy, could you please call the first speaker. For
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a general comment, our first speakers are
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Violet Kay, Amber, and Bonnie Berry.
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You'll speak at this podium here.
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Thank you.
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Testing, OK. Hello, I'm
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Violet Kawaguchi. I am the executive director of
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the Kawaguchi O'Connor Initiative. We are a Washington state 501c3
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that helps transgender individuals flee legislatively hostile states
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and settle here in Washington. I would like to thank the
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council for taking a stance on trans rights
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and that trans people should be included in the city
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of Shoreline. Brian Haywood's initiatives and the people who support them
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are dangerous. One of the people that, Brian
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Haywood strongly associates with, is named Ary Hoffman, and she has been
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he has been known to go into local parks to
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intimidate people who are advocates for
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trans rights or just people in general. These include parts of children
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at them. These are not people that represent the views of
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the shoreline that I live in, and I thank
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the council for sticking up for its trans constituents.
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But, uh, yeah. Thank
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you. Uh, is it correct you live in Shoreline? Yeah, I live
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uh, thank you. Thank you very much.
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Hello. Welcome. Uh
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hi, I'm Ember. I live in
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the Ballard area, um, I fled here to
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like this to Washington, like 3
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years ago, fleeing the fleeing
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the absolute hate of
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like anti-trans legislation and if
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if I return, I will likely
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be arrested and sent to jail
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for fucking sorry, excuse me. Um, for nothing
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and the official policy of the
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US prison system is literally
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to forcefully de-transition
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anyone they have in their custody, the
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federal prison system, um, and that's
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And just being arrested for using
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Just the bathroom for 5 years being arrested
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for 5 years, that's just, you can, and
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then you can put it together
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I, the first thing that they ever did
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in my home state of Utah to chip
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away at our rights was
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was to ban trans people from sports
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and don't even give them an inch. Uh
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fortify Washington.
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Support resolution 567.
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Thank you.
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Bonnie Berry, Kathleen Russell, then Janelle Kimmerly.
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Welcome. Hi, Bonnie
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Berry Shoreline. I'm going to do my best to read this off my phone.
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Shoot, OK, um, I wanted to
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talk about um the
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Design engineering contract for Westminster sidewalks and
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just remind you of some comments that have
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So in May of 2021
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um, Deputy, um, Keith Scully agreed
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that flexibility in sidewalk design can be
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useful preserving mature trees. February 2022
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council members acknowledged the difficulty of
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balancing the community's desires with the goal of making shoreline walkable
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safe, and accessible. accessible to all
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providing opportunities to reduce impacts to climate change
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through preservation of trees.
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September 2023, Councilmember Mork
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stated trees are an asset that increase
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in value the bigger they are, and since then, the city
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now has an inventory of the street trees with
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street valuations requested on all public works projects.
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March 2024, Councilmember
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Scully stated that he wants to make sure existing mature trees are included in
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the balance of roadway projects as proposed
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to prioritizeizing wider sidewalks.
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And uh Mayor Roberts at the time stated his support
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for tree replacement in capital projects.
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April 2024, Councilmember Adam Masu
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questioned whether Sidewalk widths can be narrowed
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to preserve trees in general and councilmember
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Pobee stated that we have an opportunity and
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a responsibility to save trees for generations to come.
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June 2024 councilmember Po
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Pobee expressed that trees are natural assets
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and sidewalks are just capitalized assets that belong to the community.
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And just last week
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councilmember Ademasu and
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Mork commented about public street trees to be removed along
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North 175th corridor for the phase phase
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1 renovation without a 1 to
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1 tree replacement. This conversation has been going on
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since 2021 and yet limited progress has been
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made on retaining trees at public work projects
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Westminster Way. is an opportunity
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for counsel to approve the design engineering
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contract that actually demonstrates this can be done.
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Thank you.
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Welcome. Hello counsel
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Janelle Kemmerling, resident of Shoreline.
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It's apparent from reading ongoing reports
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and comments regarding Theresa versus
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sidewalks that some people and organizations continue
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to focus on their own single interests. You
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have heard from Doctor Kathleen Wolf that
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trees and housing can and must coexist.
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You know from the experience with Washdot
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on Dayton Avenue that money can be saved
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by retaining existing trees instead of
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installing man-made stormwater infrastructure.
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Remember, the 2018 bond issue was money
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voted for sidewalks. It was not voted for shared use paths
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or bike lanes. Save
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Shoreline trees supports the bike network
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but must we pour more and more concrete
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concrete, hardscape into high walls.
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We must not write off living in a city among trees
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that benefit all who live in the city by saying it is just a
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handful of trees, and there are other trees on land outside the city.
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Taking down a handful here and a
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handful there equals no trees left in the city.
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Is it not possible for folks to
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come together with their combined intellect and a
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purpose of preserving and increasing shorelines tree canopy
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as presented in the 2044 comprehensive plan.
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For the good of everyone. Please.
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Thank you. Welcome.
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Thank you.
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Kathleen Russell, resident of Shoreline on behalf of
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Safe Shoreline Trees. My comment pertains to the
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consent calendar item F. I live along
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Westminster Way north and it has definitely become
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a speedway. In considering the new sidewalk
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we all agree it needs to be safe.
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As we understand bike lanes are an additional budget
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to what voters approved in 2018
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At the council workshop on March 7
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2026, Kevin Hickinbottom, urban
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forestry supervisor, provided information about appraising the
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value of Shoreline's 19,000 street trees.
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While a citywide evaluation was
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not deemed efficient, counsel was provided the
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option of quote. Performing
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tree appraisals on a project by project basis as
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part of an arborist report. We ask
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council to request the reprised value of trees that
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are slated to be removed along. Westminster
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Way north as part of the Arborist report and that
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the valuation be available before the project
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reaches 30% design. In addition we ask that
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a Permitrex walkway which would
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protect the roots and preserve trees be installed along a
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segment of Westminster Way. The permit
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track installed along Dayton Avenue North at 155th, eliminated the
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need for stormwater infrastructure.
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Which the 91 trees provide.
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Two questions. First, would a permit
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track installation along Westminster Way from 150th
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to 153rd, where most of the tall trees
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are located, eliminate the need for the 6 ft wide or 6
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ft tall concrete walls. Second
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would tree retention eliminate the need for
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an underground stormwater system. These these
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savings could possibly fund the Permitrac sidewalk.
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Thank you for your consideration of these requests
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Thank you. The last speaker I've signed
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up is Guinevere Gulsdottir.
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Hi, thank you. Uh, my name is
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Guinevere God'sdotterer. I'm a trans woman from Seattle. Um
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I wanna say that I'm here, uh, in support of
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the resolution. I think it was 5:09.
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The one that's under
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consideration, um.
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567 brought forth by a council members Roberts and Mork, I want to thank
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you for bringing that forth. Um
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Yeah, there is a trans genocide going
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on in this country.
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If I were in Idaho right now, I would be in prison
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for using the bathroom. Uh, it is a
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felony on the 2nd offense for a trans person to use the bathroom aligning with their
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identity in Idaho. Uh, and because of Idaho's three strikes law, if
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you use the bathroom 4 times, you can go to prison
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for life. That's just next door
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Um, so I just want to impress on everyone that
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the gravity of the situation that we're facing. Um
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I myself everyday face jeers
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and taunts on the sidewalk here in Seattle
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sometimes threats of rape, sometimes threats of
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grievous bodily harm in Seattle supposedly
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the wokest city in America
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um, I was maced just 3 nights ago while waiting at a bus
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stop, just for waiting at a bus stop while trains in the
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university district. Um, This
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cross contains the ashes of my mother. Uh, she
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just died two weeks ago. She was a proud gay woman.
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And she drank herself to death because of the
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decades of oppression that she
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faced as a cis gay woman. Um
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and the, uh, The oppression that faces trans
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women and especially trans women of color is far
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worse than that. Um, so thank you for
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your support, and I hope you pass this resolution.
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Thank you.
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Uh, is there anyone else
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? OK, last one, last one, I think I'm AJ Randall on the shoreline resident.
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Um, I mean, the first thing I have to say is that spaces can't
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be neutral. We're, we're talking about neutrality. Don't clap. We've got to make sure
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everyone feels safe. Um, there is no
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neutrality between people who want to eliminate you from public life. If you
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if I said, if I said I wanted you dead and you said
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I wanted to live, what's the middle ground there? OK.
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I don't see trans people on this council. I don't know. You know
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obviously I'm not going to transvestigate anybody here, but nobody's talked about that
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It's pretty obvious in politics today. I don't know how many of you have trans friends
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I don't know how many of you have friends who are trans who would actually say, you know
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what
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that person's a close friend of mine. I don't know. I'm not gonna say one way or another,
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but
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I can tell you I have a lot. My partner's trans. I'm surrounded by trans people
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and it is very difficult for me to live like day to day knowing what
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is happening throughout this community. How many are fleeing here from Texas
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from Utah, from Florida, from everywhere throughout
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this country and like I have housed two of them in the last 3 years in my home with no
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support from anybody but myself paying for them from the cash I made from my tech shitty
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tech bro job out of Seattle, but like nobody, the fact that again
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like this, we're talking about just stopping
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these bullshit, um, totally frivolous waste of our time that
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are, wow, this genocide is happening. Like that is
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a minimum. I really, again, I'm I'm begging you to figure something out
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that's more than that. Seattle just passed a bill to allocate
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funds 3000. Awesome. That's great. That's the a starting point. You want to
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give that to nonprofits, whatever, I don't know. I think we can build better
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services for trans people. I think we can help them get their medical care. I think we
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can
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figure out housing. Housing is like a big deal. food, stuff like that. We're
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losing federal benefits for things like SNAP. Like I, I had to go
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on unemployment like benefits like I haven't been able to get a job after getting fired from
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a
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tech job 9 months ago. Like it works for 6 weeks or 2 months. It's nothing. Like
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trans people have a way more difficult time getting a job than I do as
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a 15 year tech career. I can go get some shitty job. I can absolutely pay for myself. They
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can't get Amazon jobs. They get discriminated everywhere. Like if you
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do not understand how hard it is for trans people, just like they said in communities. That
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are
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highly progressive, considered the leftmost places in this country, then
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you really do not understand the struggle that is actually in these streets, and I'm
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asking you and begging you to like really focus more on that. So pass this
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do whatever, um, but we need to go way, way farther, and I hope that people are talking about
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it
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especially the people that are running for other offices, because when you run for other
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offices and
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you're not solving these major problems, man, it makes me feel like you're, that's what's
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important to
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you. So anyway, have a good day y'all. Thank you.
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Welcome. Um,
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Lake Buchanan, Meridian Park represent.
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Trans people in Idaho now face prison time for using the correct bathroom. 1700 trans
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folks in Kansas woke up one day in February to find out their driver's licenses had been
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revoked with no warning or notice. The Trump administration is currently
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trying to
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force medical providers across the country to turn over private medical information
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about
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gender-affirming care and the people receiving it. A naive reading of
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initiatives 001 and 638 might suggest that they are mild by comparison
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but they are quite simply the thin end of the wedge, that is
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the conservative movement's ongoing efforts at trans. Genocide. This is
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not hyperbole. The UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
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Genocide
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defines the term to include causing serious bodily or mental harm
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to members of the group deliberately inflicting on the group
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conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
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and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. We have seen
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numerous
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instances of all of these actions attempted and carried out by conservatives over the
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past
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10 or 12 years, to say nothing of the escalation in anti-trans violence at the hands
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of non-state actors in March, the
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Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention and Human Security
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issued its red flag alert
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about anti-trans genocide in the United States
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Brian Haywood and his hateful ilk know that they can't push as hard in
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Washington as they've pushed in other states. They know that they don't have the support for
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their
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real aims, so they feign concern about fairness in youth sports, though I
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ask what's fair about telling a kid that they can't play with their friends because of
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how they were born. parental rights, though I must point out that if your child
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doesn't feel safe telling you who they are, you have fundamentally failed as a
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parent
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They don't care about the health or well-being of kids. They only care about hurting
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trans people. They frame their detractors as predators and groomers. As a
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trans person, I can assure you trans people do not want your cis kids
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to become trans. We just want your trans kids to survive
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Over the last year or two, the Puget Sound region has seen tens
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of thousands of trans refugees come here fleeing right-wing violence and hate.
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Seeking some measure of safety in our community because our community
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is one of the last safe refuges in the country for trans people
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and as bad as things have been getting in the United States, much of the rest of the
[25:35]
world is even worse. The trans community needs all the help and support we can
[25:39]
get. It's bad out there, and Brian Haywood and his lot would love nothing more
[25:43]
than to make it just as bad here. Do not let them
[25:46]
even start because they will not stop with destroying the
[25:50]
trans community just as they didn't in 1933.
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Protect trans kids, pass Resolution 567
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as amended by Councilmember Roberts. Thank you, Councilmembers Roberts and
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Mark. And for any of my fellow transgender folks here or listening
[26:05]
elsewhere or watching the recording, Dora Richter lived.
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Thank you. Welcome.
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Hi, um, I'm here to
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say support trans people first need your name
[26:20]
and state of city of residence. Yes
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uh, I'm Lou and I'm from Seattle, uh, but I'm
[26:27]
speaking here for, I know a lot of trans people
[26:30]
in Shoreline and um I've gathered that the
[26:34]
culture here is a little more repressive than it is in Seattle
[26:37]
especially trans people of color I know
[26:41]
here experience like. A lot of racism here
[26:45]
uh, transphobia is more prevalent here, and
[26:50]
We know that Seattle has a cost of living, like
[26:53]
it's quite high to live in Seattle
[26:56]
A lot of places around Seattle that where it's cheaper to
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live is where plenty of people go just
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because that's affordable for them
[27:08]
Um, there is a trans
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refugee crisis, and it's not just a Seattle thing
[27:16]
Trans people don't just live in Seattle, they live here. And the
[27:19]
most vocal of us might be from Seattle. Seattle, but In order
[27:22]
for you, this culture of
[27:26]
like being actually decent with trans, can't just stop
[27:29]
at Seattle. Washington as a whole
[27:33]
needs to be fortified and feel safe for the trans
[27:37]
people leaving all of these states that are
[27:40]
against us or
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Like, I think I'd like um
[27:46]
saw a thing about how like
[27:50]
trees struggle if there's only like one, but if it's in a forest
[27:53]
it can actually thrive. We can't have just like
[27:55]
these little specks. where we're safe
[27:59]
The more we concentrate our right
[28:02]
rights and cultural changes to be
[28:06]
good for us, the more we as
[28:09]
an entire community survive, and it's very much a survival thing
[28:13]
and that's why you hear people being
[28:16]
very angry. It is survival. It is life or death for us
[28:20]
So please continue, um, thank you for the people who
[28:24]
put in, uh, put out this proposal to oppose this.
[28:27]
Uh, I know Brian's
[28:30]
friend Ari. I've seen her. She's going to
[28:34]
be in Redmond with Brian Haywood, and she
[28:37]
Or he, he's a de-transitioner, but he takes
[28:40]
estrogen, but I will respect he
[28:44]
will, um, he's talking with Brian Haywood
[28:47]
in Redmond on an anti-trans thing. So,
[28:50]
Like Basically
[28:53]
these like more mild things are
[28:56]
direct friends with the more violent end of this
[29:00]
if not just violent themselves, so
[29:03]
these things work in tandem, um legislatively
[29:07]
even if it seems mild, but out outing people is
[29:10]
not mild. Having that in legislation is not that mild
[29:14]
but it does go tandem with the people pulling guns. Thank you.
[29:18]
Thank you. Is there anyone
[29:22]
else here who would like to speak? Thank
[29:26]
you. Uh, now I would like to ask for approval of
[29:29]
the consent calendar. Is there a motion?
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I, I move approval of the consent counter. Second.
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Uh, there's been a motion and a
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second while the clerk please call the vote. Councilmember
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Snyder, Councilmember
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Roberts. Councilmember Ademasu, Councilmember Mork
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Councilmember Scully. Motion passes 5 to 0.
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Now we're moving our
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Uh, item 8A.
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OK. The next item is
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action on resolution number 567 opposing
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Washington state ballot initiative
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IL 26-638 concerning participation in athletics
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at K through 12 public
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schools and Washington State Ballot initiative, IL 26-001.
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Concerning parental rights relating to their children in
[30:36]
public schools. This item was sponsored by
[30:40]
council members Mork and myself Jim Hammond will present the staff report.
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Good evening
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uh, counsel, I am. Presenting
[30:52]
remotely today, so forgive me if I struggle
[30:56]
with advancing the slides, uh, but I'm here today to
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Present briefly on
[31:04]
uh resolution 567, which by its
[31:07]
terms would um advocate or place this
[31:10]
uh Shoreline City Council in opposition to
[31:14]
two ballot initiatives that are currently on the ballot scheduled for the
[31:18]
November vote, and I am not succeeding in
[31:22]
advancing this. I'm very sorry, Kendall, if I can
[31:25]
have your help. Um, so first of all, just
[31:28]
a background of
[31:31]
uh initiative 26 638
[31:35]
relates to, uh, high school
[31:38]
athletic competitions and it defines the concept
[31:42]
of biologically male and requirements
[31:45]
for uh a sort of a medical evaluation
[31:48]
Uh, next slide.
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Um, The, the, the
[31:57]
uh, articulated supporter of the main support argument is fairness in girls' sports
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uh, opponents state that the initiative will subject all girls who wish to
[32:05]
play sports to these additional evaluations. The second
[32:08]
initiative, next slide please.
[32:11]
I initiative 26001 and, and this
[32:14]
uh
[32:17]
It will, would reinstate an
[32:21]
earlier initiative that was passed, uh.
[32:24]
Initiative 2081. That was later amended by
[32:28]
the legislature. The changes here would um
[32:31]
Would, uh, essentially allow parents greater
[32:34]
access to what is currently
[32:38]
confidential information in, in student records
[32:41]
and including healthcare records as
[32:45]
well. Next slide, please. Supporters
[32:49]
argue that parents have a right to know what is being discussed with their children
[32:52]
Opponents. I note that not necessarily all
[32:56]
students feel safe at home, and
[33:00]
the current structure gives students a safe place to talk at
[33:03]
high schools, that is to
[33:06]
their benefit, um, next slide, please.
[33:10]
So there was an initial
[33:13]
amendment drafted for the request of council members Roberts
[33:17]
and Mork, uh, subsequently, Councilmember Roberts
[33:21]
made several proposed amendments that would change
[33:24]
the language, shorten it in some cases, certainly, uh, uh.
[33:28]
An effective editorial pen, uh, these next
[33:32]
3 slides highlight what those changes would be.
[33:36]
And so if you can just go through these
[33:40]
three slides slowly, Kendall, uh, this one.
[33:43]
The 3rd whereas clause condenses the language and
[33:47]
makes it clearer. And finally, Kendall, thank you. The next one.
[33:50]
Uh, this one,
[33:54]
Just changes the language and given
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uh that, uh, Mr. uh, Councilmember Roberts wished to put
[34:01]
these amendments forward for counsel consideration. Next slide, please.
[34:05]
So, I, as staff, we are not
[34:09]
able to run for electoral issues such as this take
[34:13]
a position ourselves, so are our recommendation is simply that
[34:16]
the council consider this proposed resolution
[34:20]
and uh and take it from there. Next slide, please.
[34:24]
So while we have already heard a comment
[34:27]
from members of the public on this issue
[34:31]
there is, um, formal structure, a public comment period
[34:34]
that would follow now, uh, for any
[34:38]
remaining commenters to to speak, and that
[34:41]
would procede counsel review and potential action on
[34:45]
this. So with that, um, I turn it back to you
[34:48]
Councilmember. Thank you, Mr
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Hammond. Uh, Ms. Hardy, is has anybody signed up for this portion?
[34:55]
For public comment. Yes, we have a couple people.
[34:58]
Um, our 1st 3 speakers
[35:02]
will be Jean Norbert Steele
[35:05]
and then Scott Menzies.
[35:14]
Is Gene
[35:17]
still here?
[35:23]
Oh no, Gina is not there.
[35:25]
Looks like she. Left.
[35:31]
some issues with their stomach
[35:34]
OK, we'll start with
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Norbert I don't. Hello, my name is Norbert Steele of Shoreline
[35:42]
Um, obviously this, uh, this resolution's a layup, you
[35:45]
should always, uh, you obviously should.
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As this resolution to
[35:52]
oppose the reso the upcoming initiatives that are going to
[35:55]
be voted on statewide, I believe. Um, that's
[35:59]
a no-brainer. I do want to touch
[36:01]
on something that I heard one of the previous speakers
[36:04]
say about how they
[36:08]
experience a uh uncomfortable but believable amount
[36:12]
of discrimination here in Shoreline. I've been coming here for 6
[36:16]
months now talking to you guys about all of the things going on in the city
[36:19]
um, you know, just. Signs expressing
[36:23]
solidarity with our immigrant community, constantly being
[36:26]
vandalized around the city, um. I
[36:30]
agree with the sentiments of several other speakers
[36:34]
that although this resolution that I'm assuming you will all agree
[36:38]
to and pass, uh, and thank you, Roberts and Mork for again
[36:41]
putting it forward. I
[36:44]
It is, you know, again, some bare minimum stuff, right
[36:47]
? Like I expect our city to
[36:51]
come out and say this is fucked up and we shouldn't do this. That's like
[36:54]
a baseline for me
[36:58]
um, realistically, I would like to see the city go much further with this sort of
[37:02]
thing and start treating the incidents that are going around
[37:04]
right now, both in terms of, you know
[37:08]
uh, discrimination against trans people and also the activity that
[37:11]
ICE has been displaying in the area. Uh, take this seriously. Uh, as
[37:15]
someone else said, these things are the wedge that
[37:19]
cracks open basically everything and rots our society
[37:22]
I came from Pennsylvania. I came from the Rot. I thought I got out of
[37:26]
the rot. I'm watching the rot creep back into where I live now.
[37:29]
Please. Pass
[37:33]
this resolution and also please
[37:35]
continue to push on other agenda items like
[37:39]
Getting the King County Sheriff's Department to show up to
[37:43]
a hit and run caused by federal officers. Thank you.
[37:47]
Thank you. Welcome.
[37:52]
Good evening. My name is Scott Menzies, a resident
[37:55]
of Shoreline, my organizing project is fortify Washington
[37:59]
Presiding Officer Mork and members of the council, thanks for having us today and
[38:04]
thanks for taking up this for consideration, council members Mork and Roberts, thank you
[38:07]
so much for proposing this.
[38:10]
This is What I heard from
[38:14]
my trans siblings earlier makes my heart hurt.
[38:16]
And I'm I'm
[38:21]
P help put this model resolution together and worked with no
[38:24]
hate in Washington state.
[38:27]
As an ally, I'm here as an ally and I want to see.
[38:31]
Them feel as safe.
[38:35]
As I feel walking down the street. And I know
[38:38]
that I have all of the privileges that make
[38:41]
it easy for me to exist.
[38:45]
In this place. And
[38:49]
Knowing that it's not the case for others, knowing that we have to
[38:52]
Field and waste money and time and energy
[38:56]
and emotion, resisting what are
[38:59]
awful. Horrifying
[39:03]
transphobic, homophobic, misogynistic.
[39:08]
Initiatives is. It hurts, and it is, it hurts
[39:11]
my heart and it is the thin edge of the wedge.
[39:15]
As Megan Rapinoe put it in an article, this is not just about
[39:19]
This is, it starts with the trans folks
[39:22]
and it moves towards constricting
[39:26]
the spaces within which women are even allowed to exist in their sports.
[39:30]
This is the thin edge of the wedge, and we have to
[39:34]
repudiate it in the strongest and most definitive way possible
[39:37]
This is why I feel.
[39:40]
It's important for our city councils in this state to take
[39:44]
this stand. I don't feel us voting is
[39:47]
gonna is gonna be what does it or doesn't do it.
[39:50]
But I feel like Our city
[39:55]
Elected officials whom we elected, who represent us
[39:59]
who are close to us because we live in the same
[40:03]
place. We want to see you stand with us. And so, I wanna say I'm grateful that you
[40:07]
are standing with us on this. I'm here as
[40:10]
an ally. I wish I saw more
[40:13]
allies, that also kind of hurts my heart. But
[40:17]
I know that you will pass this and I
[40:21]
am grateful for that much you know, everybody who's here in support of
[40:25]
this resolution, please raise your hand just so everybody can see. Great.
[40:30]
Thank you. Anybody here for the first time at a city council meeting?
[40:33]
Excellent. Woke in shoreline
[40:36]
great. Welcome. Thank you so much
[40:40]
Thank you so much for your consideration. Um
[40:43]
I appreciate you. Thanks. Thank you. Oh, and this
[40:47]
is actually some more petition signatures.
[40:50]
Thank you. Is there anyone else
[40:54]
that signed up to speak at this moment? Yes, Our
[40:57]
our last two are Lake Buchanan and then Jamie Lee Blake.
[41:06]
Uh, I didn't know how the signups worked, so I've just
[41:09]
you know, the same thing I said before, uh, I do
[41:12]
want to say thank you, Councilmember Roberts for the amendment because while I was
[41:13]
reading through
[41:17]
the initial uh version that would those are basically my concerns, and
[41:21]
they addressed them, so I'm like, cool, good job, um, but yeah
[41:25]
I agree with basically everything everyone has said. This is a no-brainer, and it
[41:28]
is basically table stakes like this we need to be looking for
[41:32]
more to be doing, um, I have been to a couple of
[41:37]
Seattle City Council meetings. I haven't spoken at them because I don't live in Seattle
[41:41]
I live in Shoreline, so I am grateful for the opportunity to Speak
[41:45]
my mind on this, um, but, uh, keep
[41:48]
pushing harder, more this and more. Keep going more
[41:51]
do more, go more
[41:55]
please It's not as eloquent if I don't write it out ahead of time
[41:58]
apparently. Thank you. I agree. Welcome.
[42:03]
Good evening. My name is Jamie Lee Blake. I live in Edmonds
[42:08]
just over the border to the north of Shoreline, but I spend a lot of time in Shoreline.
[42:11]
I came here
[42:14]
anyway because IL 26-638 is
[42:18]
a statewide measure and it doesn't stop at the county line
[42:21]
I'm a transgender woman.
[42:25]
I'm also a mom of 3 teenagers, and I've spent 20 years
[42:28]
as an engineer, which mostly means I've been paid
[42:32]
to read specifications closely and notice what they actually
[42:36]
say, instead of what people say they say. So I read this one.
[42:40]
It doesn't affect only transgender girls
[42:43]
but even if it did. It would be Too much.
[42:47]
Under IL 26 638, any student
[42:50]
who wants to play a girl's sport has to produce
[42:54]
a signed statement from a healthcare provider verifying her sex
[42:58]
The anatomy, genetics, or testosterone levels.
[43:02]
That means genital inspections for
[43:04]
our 110
[43:08]
girls playing middle school and high school sports in the state That's
[43:12]
The sponsors of the Initiatives number, not mine.
[43:16]
Every girl who wants
[43:20]
to play, boys don't have to do this to play boys' sports
[43:24]
and that doesn't get said as much, and I think we should think
[43:28]
about that too, and what that means. Washington has had an inclusive
[43:31]
policy since 2007. It's worked for 20
[43:35]
years. What's changed isn't the sports, it's the politics.
[43:38]
And The doctors note that this initiative requires.
[43:42]
will be a burden on
[43:47]
All girls trying to play sports especially the
[43:50]
most marginalized. With less access to doctors
[43:53]
less able to play sports.
[43:57]
The girls who get questioned first won't be the
[44:00]
trans ones. They will be the CIS
[44:04]
ones, the ones that are a head taller than everyone else
[44:07]
or have short hair, or just look to wrong
[44:10]
to somebody in the stands. The same
[44:16]
instinct runs through IL 26001, which would roll back protections the legislator
[44:19]
added last year after real families like mine testified about what the
[44:23]
original version was doing to their kids.
[44:26]
I know a city resolution doesn't change the policy or take
[44:30]
anything off the ballot. I'm not confused about that, but
[44:34]
when my kid is deciding whether a place is safe.
[44:37]
She isn't reading state law. She's looking at what the people
[44:41]
in charge were willing to say out loud.
[44:44]
So please pass resolution 567, if
[44:48]
you pass it, put it where people will actually see it
[44:52]
the website, the newsletter, not buried in the minutes. Thank you and
[44:55]
thank you again to council members Roberts and Mork for bringing this forward. Thank
[44:55]
you.
[44:59]
Thank you. Is there anybody else who would
[45:03]
like to speak in this public comment period.
[45:07]
Hello, uh,
[45:10]
Um, my name's Oliver Wolf. I'm from North
[45:14]
Seattle, and um. I didn't have
[45:17]
a comment written out today, but um. I
[45:21]
just wanted to speak against a uh a myth that I
[45:24]
haven't really heard challenged yet today. About um
[45:27]
Like, This, this
[45:31]
initiative kind of presupposes a long standing
[45:34]
myth that cisje or that a
[45:37]
transgender women have the same
[45:41]
physical performance as cisgender men. Which Isn't true
[45:44]
for medically transitioning trans women because
[45:47]
Uh, cisgender women don't take
[45:51]
testosterone blockers and transgender women
[45:54]
do usually. Thank you.
[45:58]
Hello, I'm, hello, my name's Violel Kawaguchi
[46:02]
I'm a shoreline resident. I would also like to
[46:05]
point out that people's
[46:09]
hormone levels are variable depending on who they are and
[46:12]
their racial background, testosterone testing
[46:16]
will disproportionately affect cisgender athletes of color because cisgender athletes
[46:20]
of color do on occasion have higher testosterone levels than
[46:24]
average. We see this in Olympic sports. We see this in sports universally
[46:28]
Behind the thin veneer of parental. Concern, there's always an air
[46:31]
of racism and just the most
[46:35]
vile aspects of our country hidden behind every single
[46:38]
thing these people pass or want
[46:41]
to pass. The bone density arguments aren't
[46:44]
even like the two things that I'm
[46:48]
pretty sure the vast majority of what they're harping on is, is trans
[46:52]
people may have higher bone density, and we may
[46:56]
develop muscle mass that we had before better because of predis
[46:59]
or a pre-exposure to testosterone, these are
[47:03]
very nebulous things. They are not well defined. The science is not
[47:07]
there. This initiative is based on nothing and
[47:10]
is purely an excuse to discriminate while giving
[47:14]
nebulous actors, unlimited access to your children under the
[47:18]
guise of keeping them safe. Anyone who is an advocate for
[47:21]
this, anyone who wants this, I would greatly be concerned
[47:25]
about even having that person in my like
[47:29]
group of people, I assume. associate with because on its front
[47:32]
there's nothing about this that even makes any sense to anyone
[47:36]
who knows, like a basic amount of anatomy or
[47:40]
like science as a trans person, when I started HRT 11 years
[47:42]
ago, within months, you want to know what my T levels were
[47:46]
? 17 nanograms per deciliter. That is
[47:49]
significantly below the level of a cis woman
[47:53]
Like these, their arguments don't make sense. They are not seen out in the science
[47:56]
They're not seen out in the performance statistics, one of the most.
[47:59]
the largest anti-trans and sports
[48:03]
advocates Riley Gaines loves to talk about how a
[48:07]
trans person beat her without telling everyone that this trans person didn't
[48:11]
win the race, and Riley Gaines was 3rd, so like
[48:15]
these people are just losers. They're losers
[48:18]
and they want to discriminate against people of color and trans
[48:22]
people and people who they perceive as getting something
[48:26]
that they didn't earn, but they really earned it.
[48:29]
So please do the bare minimum as this gentleman in orange said
[48:33]
and passed this resolution and as a trans
[48:36]
person of color in shoreline, I will say walking to the
[48:40]
one line station right over there. I have had people like yell
[48:44]
at me outside of their cars. I've had people yell racial slurs
[48:48]
at me, old decrepit man in a Charlie Kirk shirt and a MAGA hat
[48:51]
like yelling the teas slur at me. This is like real
[48:55]
like people in Seattle are harassed daily for being trans.
[48:58]
This needs to stop.
[49:03]
Thank you. Is there any other public comment tonight?
[49:08]
Seen none, I will close public comment
[49:11]
and we'll move to counsel action.
[49:15]
Councilmember Roberts, thank you, Presiding Officer
[49:19]
Mark. Uh, I move adoption of resolution number
[49:22]
567 with the amendments that I have proposed.
[49:25]
Second, Motion
[49:29]
in a second. Would you like to speak to your motion, Councilor Roberts.
[49:33]
Uh thank you, Councilmember Mork for
[49:36]
uh, sponsoring this and getting this on the agenda, um.
[49:40]
We have adopted in this council
[49:44]
on this dio, multiple resolutions saying that Shoreland needs to be a
[49:47]
welcoming space for everyone. We
[49:51]
uh, for everyone
[49:54]
for LGBTQIA plus individuals specifically
[49:58]
uh, this is, I think
[50:01]
a continuation of that, those series of resolutions
[50:05]
and because we need to be, and
[50:09]
we ought to be a place where people feel safe. We want people to live here
[50:12]
We want people to feel comfortable uh working here. We want people
[50:16]
comfortable going to school here, and that's something that we.
[50:20]
As elected leaders of this city ought to continue
[50:23]
to push for. As we've heard from public comment, we
[50:27]
are not there yet. There are too many
[50:31]
people, there are too many people who are facing discrimination in their daily
[50:35]
lives. Too many people who face discrimination just existing.
[50:38]
Um, that is a problem. We
[50:41]
and we have a moral responsibility
[50:44]
to say no, that's not what we want, that's not the
[50:47]
values that we want to see in in shoreline.
[50:51]
Now I know that um we do need to do better.
[50:55]
I mean, I, and I think that some of the advocates
[50:58]
who are speaking here today, talking about how
[51:02]
do we make sure that and how do we provide
[51:05]
the resources that people need, so
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that that is something we ought to sort of, that's something we need to strive for. It's
[51:13]
not something on our agenda tonight, but that's something we need to continue
[51:17]
to strive for is how do we protect our residents? How do we make sure
[51:21]
that our residents get the support they need. And
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It's hard. It is hard to be a child in
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This world today. It's especially hard if
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they are in transitioning
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have transitioned. It is a scary, it is
[51:38]
scary, so individuals who decide and make the
[51:42]
decision to transition, that is not an
[51:45]
easy decision. That is a tough.
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Tough, tough. Decision that
[51:53]
people have to make. It is if you are.
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People It is
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Facing people who do decide to transition
[52:05]
sadly faced this additional discrimination.
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They, uh, um, as I said
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it's harder, the studies have shown that individuals who
[52:15]
a harder time trying to find work.
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That individuals who are trans.
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Struggle with lots of things in their daily lives. It's not something
[52:27]
people take lightly if they are in
[52:30]
transition. And it's our job as a country, we should
[52:35]
be letting people live the lives they want to live. If they should not, people should
[52:35]
not
[52:39]
be discriminated against because of the choices that they
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make, how they live their lives because individuals
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Just want to live, they just want to live their lives. They they want to feel, well, say
[52:50]
feel protected. They want to be supported by their community.
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They want to be supported in their schools.
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These are things that people want. These are basic needs that people
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uh, people want and. It's sad to
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see that there are people in this state who want to
[53:08]
enshrine discrimination in our laws. As was said
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uh, the initiative around
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Sports, it is not the
[53:18]
small handful of trans youth who are participating in sports who are going
[53:22]
to be affected by it. It is going to be the people who are
[53:25]
as was described, uh, as Jamie said
[53:29]
correctly, it's the people who are, it's the people
[53:33]
women of color who are a head taller, who have a a little bit stronger muscle mass
[53:36]
who are seemingly better than everyone
[53:40]
else on the field, who they're the ones who are going to be questioned. That's been
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That's been questioned every time for hundreds of years.
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Thousands of years. That
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is really the people who are going to be affected by this
[53:56]
because it is invasive, and it is discriminatory that
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One gender is going to be affected by this, while
[54:04]
another gender is not. That is wrong. Clean
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flat wrong.
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And then we need to, I mean, the
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school counselors, the teachers they know how important this is They know how
[54:18]
important the schools need to be a safe space for everyone
[54:21]
That an ideal world, yes, you should be able to talk
[54:25]
to your parents about who you are and what your true
[54:29]
identity is. That's important, but schools also are
[54:32]
a safe space, need to be a safe space for people. And
[54:36]
this law makes the schools not a safe space. It makes it
[54:39]
a hostile space that anything that
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you say can suddenly go right back to a parent. A a
[54:46]
parent who may or may not be supportive.
[54:50]
A parent who may be willing to throw their
[54:53]
child out. We know that and studies show
[54:56]
that people are in who are
[55:01]
kids who are transitioning, who have transitioned, they're the ones who are
[55:05]
more likely, are very likely to be homeless. They're the more likely to
[55:08]
run away. If either
[55:12]
two unfortunately, 2 homelessness or to some other place. And I think for
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the people who are, have opened their homes and let
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people in and recognize and celebrate who they are
[55:23]
as individuals and not because of us.
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So I encouraged and implore my colleagues to
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support this, um, and I hope that if
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this passes, that the people of
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Washington state agree with me and say that this is wrong. These are
[55:41]
not Washington values. These are not shoreline values. So, thank you.
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Councilmember Mark. Thank
[55:49]
you, Councilmember Scully. Thanks, and I'll keep this short because this, this is a
[55:52]
slam dunk and what's been said tonight is, is all true. So I'm
[55:56]
I'm bisexual. My part of the rainbow is fairly safe, but I've got a lot of
[56:01]
close friends who are trans, and at age 53, most of my trans friends transitioned a long
[56:04]
time ago, and so they have watched the world get progressively brighter, and
[56:04]
it's
[56:09]
Very unfortunate that they may see the world start to get more dim
[56:12]
with initiatives like this. I just want to share
[56:16]
11 life experience. I had the unfortunate life experience of explaining how difficult it
[56:20]
was to be trans to someone who later turned out to be a trans man, so I
[56:24]
mansplained being trans to a trans man, which is like meta
[56:28]
um, but he's a big bearded dude and I found out he
[56:32]
was trans when he got really upset at signature gatherers on a ferry for the
[56:36]
bathroom band that we, we dealt with years ago, and he said, look, he told me he was trans
[56:36]
and he said
[56:40]
look, this is Homer S for me. I can't leave the house because if I go into a women's room.
[56:44]
room, look at me. There will be screams if I go into
[56:47]
a men's room, you know, that's, you
[56:51]
know, that that's, that's not where I want to be. It's not safe for me to be there. So
[56:56]
I've spent a lot of time talking to folks, not only in Shoreland, but in surrounding
[57:00]
communities, and the good news is there is a strong trans community here, and
[57:03]
what makes my heart glad is when I meet someone who's trans and the households next to them
[57:03]
are
[57:07]
all flying pride flags, even though they are not part of that community, they're just
[57:11]
showing solidarity. The bad news is there is a lot of misunderstanding about.
[57:15]
What these bills are. It's usually posed around safety, which is
[57:19]
ridiculous. And what misses the point is, this isn't aimed at
[57:23]
adults, right? The first measure is aimed at children. And for
[57:26]
me it's especially invidious because it tells a 12 year
[57:30]
old girl that her body has to pass inspection, usually by a man
[57:34]
before she's allowed to participate. I mean that that's that's like 1,80s
[57:37]
1700s thinking. The other
[57:41]
measure about school counselors and and medical professionals. When my
[57:45]
daughter was 12, she cut her hair short and started wearing different clothes, and I
[57:45]
thought
[57:49]
huh, and she told me years later that she had been questioning her gender
[57:52]
identity, and she wasn't ready to talk to me about it. That doesn't make me a bad parent,
[57:52]
that doesn't mean
[57:56]
we have a bad relationship. She just wasn't ready to share with her dad that she was
[57:57]
questioning who
[58:00]
she was. So no kid should be, should know that there is
[58:04]
no safe space, right? There should always be a safe space. All this has been said. Thank
[58:04]
you
[58:08]
for coming, and I'm actually familiar with the Kawaguchi O'Connor Initiative, and thank
[58:08]
you
[58:12]
for doing that. It's making a big difference to a lot of people.
[58:16]
CouncilmanRadamasu. Thank you
[58:20]
Councilmember Mork and Roberts for
[58:24]
bringing this resolution. I'm in full support of the resolution
[58:27]
and I want to every person that physically
[58:31]
came here and Spoke from
[58:34]
your heart and
[58:38]
touched me greatly, um, So,
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I just want to reiterate, I oppose
[58:48]
the initiative regarding youth participation in
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athletics. It is wrong to victimize trans youth.
[58:55]
And this initiative, as we all know
[58:58]
will subject girls who wish to play sports
[59:02]
in kindergarten through senior year in high school to
[59:05]
the additional medical evaluations. I also oppose
[59:09]
the initiative about parental rights is not
[59:12]
all students are safe at home, and I believe that all students
[59:16]
need safe spaces to talk about private issues that
[59:20]
they are dealing with, and I want to surround everyone with protection and
[59:24]
love. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Snyder.
[59:28]
I'll, I'll do my best to
[59:32]
articulate all of the many thoughts, and I, first
[59:35]
of all, I appreciate everyone who showed up today and who
[59:39]
spoke and also for council members, uh, Mork
[59:42]
and Roberts for Paying attention to what's going on, um.
[59:46]
Uh, I grew up playing sports
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My sisters played sports. We all
[59:52]
played softball, um, all through high
[59:56]
school and and uh and even into college
[1:00:00]
um, uh. You know
[1:00:03]
the, they weren't always straight. Many
[1:00:07]
of the players were, were not, and you get questioned
[1:00:10]
about that, but Those are
[1:00:14]
our people. I mean that that there's no other way to say it. I mean
[1:00:17]
uh, they kick at us, so, um.
[1:00:20]
Uh, All I can think about with
[1:00:24]
with this regards to the the the initial
[1:00:27]
bill about girls' sports, uh, it's, you know
[1:00:31]
it's invasive, it's perverse, it's just
[1:00:34]
brings to mind. Uh, you know
[1:00:38]
Doctor Larry Nassar, who was convicted of, you know
[1:00:41]
molesting all of these
[1:00:45]
uh, gymnasts, uh, well sometimes while their
[1:00:48]
parents are standing in the room. And um,
[1:00:51]
So subjecting girls and
[1:00:56]
in trans kids. These are girls. These
[1:00:59]
are kids to anything short, you know, or a
[1:01:03]
some kind of pelvic exam in
[1:01:06]
order to decide whether they're
[1:01:10]
qualified to play sports. I, I mean, it's, it's
[1:01:13]
it's insidious and and it's
[1:01:17]
thinly veiled, uh, or it's some kind of attempt to
[1:01:21]
be legitimized by using some kind of term
[1:01:24]
like family values, fairness
[1:01:27]
in sports, uh.
[1:01:30]
Parental rights, uh, in, in.
[1:01:34]
When I hear those terms, I just kind
[1:01:38]
of brace myself because here comes another non-issue making.
[1:01:41]
It's way as so as though it's some kind of an issue
[1:01:45]
and it really, really isn't
[1:01:48]
um, and I'm, I'm very pleased
[1:01:52]
that uh that this is, we're starting.
[1:01:55]
With this baseline is Mr. Steele
[1:01:58]
mentioned earlier, um,
[1:02:02]
And like everything, like they say, safety first, and that has also
[1:02:06]
has to do with the, with the 26001
[1:02:10]
um, initiative that's going to show up, kids don't
[1:02:13]
always feel safe at home. They need to feel
[1:02:16]
safe at school talking to a
[1:02:19]
counselor and um I I know from
[1:02:23]
kids going, even going to to therapy, you
[1:02:27]
you hit that 13 year old Mark and, and you can't even uh.
[1:02:30]
log in onto some
[1:02:33]
kind of medical to pay the
[1:02:37]
they're entitled to that privacy. It's not to be shared
[1:02:41]
with their parents unless they decide they want to share it with
[1:02:45]
their parents, and um And that needs to be maintained
[1:02:48]
at our schools as well. So, um.
[1:02:51]
Again, there's there's a uh, we
[1:02:55]
have a ways to go and um But
[1:02:58]
this is a, you have to start somewhere. Thank you.
[1:03:02]
Thank you. um. Thank you
[1:03:06]
all for coming. Makes a big difference
[1:03:09]
to know that there are
[1:03:13]
people who support what we are trying
[1:03:16]
to do. Councilmember Roberts, thank you for improving the, um
[1:03:20]
Resolution And I think I don't
[1:03:23]
have anything new to say. You have covered it
[1:03:27]
all, really appreciate it. Uh, now we're at the
[1:03:31]
point to vote on this
[1:03:34]
resolution. Um, is there any more discussion, or?
[1:03:38]
Will the clerk please call them ? I believe
[1:03:41]
the motion is on the amendment first and then.
[1:03:45]
I thought that's what uh moved with
[1:03:48]
his amendment. OK, let's get into the motion. So no, that's all
[1:03:52]
right. OK. Though thought we had done that
[1:03:55]
uh, so will the clerk please call the vote.
[1:03:58]
Uh, Councilmember Snyder. Hi
[1:04:02]
Councilmember Roberts. Councilmember
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Ademasu, Councilmember Mark, a Councilmember Scully, aye.
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Thank you. Passed unanimously
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5 to 0. With that, this meeting is adjourned. Thank you.