[0:03] To the Tuesday, January 6, 2028, meeting of the City of University FAR. We begin our meeting with an installation of a prayer followed by the pledge of allegiance. Please rise.

[0:19] Invocation be given by City Attorney Rob Dylan.

[0:26] Here, Heavenly Father, as we begin a new year, we thank you for the many blessings of this life. We pray that you will continue to watch over us and lead us

[0:37] on our daily walk with you today we ask for your blessing hand your guiding

[0:43] hand on the City Council as they deal with the serious issues that come

[0:48] before them give them wisdom and courage to make the decisions that will be in

[0:54] the best interest of our city and its citizens we also ask for your blessing on all

[1:01] the officers and employees of the city as they provide services to the city and its

[1:06] presence with great skill and perseverance and send your name that we pray. Amen.

[1:14] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which

[1:23] it stands, formation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.

[1:46] Next we'll have introduction to the council and the start on my left for a lift.

[1:50] Melissa Riemann, Councilman.

[1:53] Tom E. Stewart, Mayor.

[1:55] Mark Aldridge, Mayor Prudem.

[1:57] Bob Myers, Councilman.

[2:00] Robbie, can you introduce staff that's present?

[2:02] Sure, my name's Robbie Corder, the city manager.

[2:05] The other in the dice is Rob Dillard, our city attorney.

[2:08] Against the wall, it's my right, but the audience left.

[2:10] We have Shanna Sim's Bradish, who is our assistant city manager.

[2:13] Andy Attentio is our information resources director.

[2:16] At the computer at front, we have Christine Green, our city secretary.

[2:19] Next to her is Amanda Hartwick, our special projects coordinator.

[2:23] Yandamanda is Randy Howell, our fire chief.

[2:26] Next to him is Bill Mathis, our chief of police.

[2:29] Behind Bill is Katie Barron, our director of engineering.

[2:32] Next to her is Keegan Literal, our director of public works.

[2:37] Paige Rudy is in the back of the room.

[2:38] She is our community information officer.

[2:40] Next to her is Elizabeth Anderson, our purchasing manager.

[2:45] There's Jackie Lot at the back of the wall.

[2:47] She is our library director.

[2:48] next to her is to the Gregory, our human resources director.

[2:54] I think Nelson Walter is our assistant chief of police.

[3:00] Thank you, Robbie.

[3:02] New awards and recognition to when we get into the consent agenda, please.

[3:06] Gay, Marin Council members of the audience, the consent agenda are those items that are considered

[3:09] routine in nature and maybe passed with one motion and one vote.

[3:13] Tonight we have seven items on the consent agenda.

[3:16] The first item is the purchase of vehicles, these are two vehicles, one for the parks department.

[3:21] The second one for the sanitation department.

[3:23] The parts department is a planned replacement of a 2012 F250 dump truck.

[3:29] We are replacing it with the same vehicle.

[3:30] This is available from the by-board contract with Caldwell County Ford in the amount of $75,325.

[3:37] The next vehicle is a sanitation vehicle.

[3:39] This is a rear-loader, 2015 freight liner is being replaced with a 2027 freight liner with a 16 yard refuse body.

[3:48] This is a plan replacement as well.

[3:50] It's available on a tips contract with Dogget Freightliner of South Texas in the amount

[3:54] of $208,000, $215.81, both of those contracts meet the competitive bidding requirements

[4:00] that the city has for purchases.

[4:03] The second item on the consent agenda is a modification to an existing residential parking

[4:09] district.

[4:09] This is going to be on the 2,900 block of Rosedale, specifically at the corner of Rosedale

[4:15] and Dublin.

[4:15] This will add the west curb line to the residential parking district, excuse me.

[4:21] This will add the east curb line of the residential parking district along Dublin, whereas the western side is already marked.

[4:27] And the property owner on this corner has submitted the approval for this change.

[4:33] The next couple payments are related to the city's recently completed Snyder Plaza Improvements project.

[4:39] The first one is the final payment to SYB, which was the large general contractor on this project.

[4:44] So the final payment is in the amount of $946,834, which brings the total final payment or total final project cost to just over 18.9 million.

[4:55] The next item is the final payment's SRH landscape SRH to the...

[5:00] Large and the medium size trees as part of this project. For the large tree contract, the final payment is in the amount of $11,365, which brings the final project total to $227,000. The medium size contract is in the amount of $9,027 for the final payment, which brings the total project cost of $280,543. The next item on your consent agenda is a proposal from our security and access control system.

[5:29] This is for our new public training, public safety training facility on Fonder and Boulevard.

[5:35] We're nearing completion of that particular project and the last time that remains are the security

[5:40] elements for that building the interior and the exterior cameras as well as the door access.

[5:46] The total cost of that particular contract is $88,815.

[5:51] That includes all the installation and the materials needed to complete that.

[5:54] And then finally you have the minutes from the December 16th, 2025, so the council meeting.

[6:00] Thank you, Robbie.

[6:01] Any changes or comments?

[6:03] No.

[6:04] No, I need a motion, please.

[6:06] Mayor, I would move approval of the consent agenda.

[6:10] I'll second it.

[6:11] Motion in a second.

[6:12] Melissa Rieman.

[6:13] Aye.

[6:13] Phil Filbert.

[6:14] Aye.

[6:15] Mark Aldridge.

[6:16] Aye.

[6:16] Bob Myers.

[6:17] Aye.

[6:17] The mayor votes aye and passes.

[6:20] Robbie, we're getting ready to get into the main agenda.

[6:22] Let me make a comment for everybody that's here.

[6:27] Before we take comments, let me go over the guidelines again with you all.

[6:32] When you come to the microphone, clearly state your name and address for our records.

[6:37] To ensure everybody has an opportunity to speak, I'm going to limit everybody to one minute.

[6:42] That sounds like an awful short time, but please work at it.

[6:46] We ask the speakers way to be recognized and refrain from speaking when not your turn.

[6:51] Thank you for your cooperation, and let's get started.

[6:54] Okay, Mayor and Council, the first item on the manager in this evening is to consider proposed ordinance, which would order a special election for Saturday, May 2nd, 2026, to dissolve the city's membership in the Dallas area rapid transit system.

[7:07] This is a statutory requirement, Chapter 452 related to the city's membership.

[7:13] We had a meeting yesterday with dart officials to have an open communication about it.

[7:19] staff is certainly able to answer any questions you might have on the ordinance itself, but I would turn it over to you mayor and any comments on this.

[7:51] I think most of y'all know we had a meeting yesterday with Dart and it was very productive and very informative.

[8:01] We had a meeting with Dart yesterday. It was very informative and very productive.

[8:07] We're going to carry over the meeting and some of the items we're going to hear tonight.

[8:10] we talked about over there. So, Robbie, let's get started.

[8:19] Okay, Mary, are you ready to call folks that want to comment on the proposed ordinance?

[8:25] Yes.

[8:34] First of all, I have to speak as Walt Human.

[8:37] So, Walt come in. Walt, are you ready to talk?

[8:42] Yes, sir.

[9:05] Only one minute. I have a paper that I'd like to add to you. My name is Walt Human.

[9:12] I've been a resident of U-Earth University Park for 50 years.

[9:17] I urge you to vote no on holding over the trial of election.

[9:24] But Dard has got to improve both in terms of marketing, security, safety, increase in

[9:32] ridership.

[9:33] One reason for withdrawing is because of the state of Texas's past laws that have cramped

[9:39] down one city's that are members of Dart by trying to squeeze on the head

[9:45] to lower taxes. That's time that you're paying 1% other non-dark cities are

[9:51] free and not paying that. But what you've done is created public transportation

[9:58] Thank you very much.

[10:00] I apologize for folks. Those stairs have gone a lot taller over the last 15 years. We worked

[10:08] thousands of hours at 200,000 volunteers to help us in 1983 passing the dark election.

[10:21] Transit is for those who without cars or handicapped or for people in New York's park, they

[10:29] I would like a better way to get around.

[10:32] It's infinitely more difficult to create a transit system

[10:36] than it is to pass a bill to create a new park and so forth.

[10:42] But that's what you did.

[10:43] I'd like to relate one instance.

[10:46] When we were doing the Norse Central project

[10:48] after I hit the Norse Central, the guard task force,

[10:54] we ran into an impediment two days before we was supposed

[10:57] was to have an inked deal with the state of Texas,

[11:01] the chairman told me of Tex-Dot.

[11:04] We're not putting any more money in.

[11:08] And it turns out there was a pipeline

[11:11] that ran parallel to central in the right away

[11:15] of University Park.

[11:17] The next day, that day, I called Don Hausman,

[11:20] who was the chair of the University Park,

[11:25] explain the problem to it and within 24 hours he's back and said we'll cover that cost.

[11:32] It's at our right away. As a result of that two days later the mayor of the four cities,

[11:38] the governor and the head of the Kitex dot came down and we inked what is today a $1 billion

[11:47] deal that got accomplished. Why on earth would the university part do that?

[11:52] The city of Dallas would benefit richest in a larger city than us would benefit because

[12:01] that's an R-D-N-A to help others.

[12:04] There are other instances.

[12:06] Who's the first to jump on board on civic institutions and when they're trying to build

[12:12] and expand the university park?

[12:15] Residents are doing that.

[12:16] And in this particular case, on August 13, 1983, our citizens voted 76% in favor of

[12:28] creating Jorp.

[12:30] 76% the New York Times call this a line slide for public transportation in the South

[12:37] of South.

[12:38] I urge you to vote no on this withdrawal.

[12:40] All works, please work to improve Dart, encourage ridership, and work with the state legislators

[12:50] to improve the situation and take off the squeeze that are on cities that are in favor

[12:57] of Dart.

[12:58] I'd like to ask you any questions and apologize for being late.

[13:02] I couldn't find a handicap part of this.

[13:04] Thank you.

[13:08] Thank you.

[13:09] Thank you.

[13:23] Kevin Norfleet.

[13:30] Good evening.

[13:31] My name is Kevin Norfleet.

[13:32] I live in the 2,900 block of Southwestern.

[13:35] I'd urge you to vote no to this ordinance.

[13:37] I'm a frequent user of Dart.

[13:39] As a resident of this community, GoLink is an incredible program.

[13:42] The ability to get to the airport from my door or back home for $3 is remarkable.

[13:47] But I'm also a frequent user of the Park and Ride at Mockingbird Station to be able to go

[13:50] to advance downtown to go to Fair Park places like that.

[13:53] However, while I appreciate Dart for the amenities and

[13:57] the ability to access place in the Metroplex without having to fight for parking and things like that,

[14:01] I think the stronger value of Dart is what it does to protect the area we live in as the center of gravity of the Metroplex.

[14:10] Allowing Dart to languish in hollow out, I think enables the center of things to move to the northern suburbs.

[14:18] and I think that is bad for University Park.

[14:20] I think to ensure the long-term future and the prosperity of this community,

[14:24] we need a strong dark, we need a strong Dallas, and we need this community

[14:27] to have highly functional, valuable mass transit systems that we can continue to grow and thrive.

[14:32] Thank you.

[14:37] Trying to gain a game strength, a game strength,

[14:53] and so I have here

[14:58] Peter Young.

[15:10] My name is Peter Young. I live at 3200 St. John's Drive in Halem Park. I used art almost every day to get around without worrying about traffic or parking. I have loved that the park sees Golding Zone has made it easy and cheap to go between locations in our two towns and places in Dallas like Inwood Village. I've been concerned reading the pull-out motions not just from you to your soup park, but in my town and three others that have called for a referendum on this point. The ordinance proposed to this body sites that there are no real operations within the town boards. And while right, while true, Lover's Lane Station and Montgomery Station were both within

[15:39] and 300 meters of town borders.

[15:41] And I've direct-boarded door service to park cities

[15:43] through darts, but going to micro transit.

[15:45] This ordinance parallels the methodology

[15:47] off-sighted and the EY study,

[15:50] and does not consider these stations

[15:52] as serving the town in their financial analysis.

[15:55] I urge you all to reconsider,

[15:58] or consider voting down ordinance,

[16:02] and that's it, that's, thank you for your time.

[16:07] Thank you, Peter.

[16:12] Randall Bryant.

[16:20] Good evening.

[16:22] Mayor council, the city manager, Randall Bryant, chair of the board for DOS Air Rapid Transit.

[16:29] I don't know if there's more that we can add from the robust conversation that we had on

[16:33] yesterday.

[16:34] I do appreciate the spirited debate and the questions and hopefully we answered all of them

[16:40] to your satisfaction.

[16:42] I think I made a little bit of a joke yesterday and said that you know you're going to all

[16:46] showed us some great hospitality in the conference room and you've showed us now you're a wonderful

[16:51] chambers and I guess now we just asked to be showing some hospitality in a private room and

[16:56] so that we can continue to work on these issues. Yesterday we talked about governance, we talked

[17:01] about funding. Today I made good on a promise that I made yesterday about the governance

[17:05] structure and hopefully you all received a letter from me to the Dallas City Council requesting

[17:13] for the T and I committed to take up that governance bill which I believe will help

[17:18] this city as well as all of our member cities and then of course is the funding bill which

[17:23] we still need to work on and I do believe that there's time to work on that.

[17:26] Dart does not need any additional cities to call for this election right now to make us

[17:31] understand this the severity and the seriousness that this issue is that won't be accomplished

[17:37] by adding one more city to that pile and they get the other day as I said on yesterday

[17:40] Today, I believe all the cities or the majority of the cities that have called for these elections have also sent over proposals to us for consideration to rescind those elections as well.

[17:51] And we believe we'll receive an updated proposal from the City of Plano as well.

[17:55] So we urge you to not take this vote tonight and continue supporting DART as you all have been in the past.

[18:02] Thank you.

[18:03] Good evening,

[18:14] City Council members and thank you for your service.

[18:17] I know only you want to speak for our situation, which is a personal one, but also for those

[18:22] who cannot attend the meeting tonight.

[18:24] My husband and I are the parents of a son Trevor who has autism.

[18:29] Trevor depends on dark prayer transit services every day to deliver him home from his job at

[18:37] Jarvis Press. He is unable to navigate the bus and the train system. Rick

[18:43] Streamy, please, with a level of service that we currently receive. It's been a

[18:47] lifeline for our family, allowing Trevor to maintain some independence and stay

[18:52] connected to his community. Many of the elderly that live in our community and

[18:57] those with disabilities live on fixed incomes and already face significant

[19:01] challenges. Although lift and Uber are available for many, the expense can be

[19:07] prohibitive in the long run. For this population, reliable and affordable transportation is not a convenience, it's a necessity.

[19:15] The proposal to the fund art will represent a serious disservice stripping away one of the few resources that enables independence and access to essential services.

[19:26] Transportation remains one of the most critical barriers for individuals with disabilities.

[19:30] Without access and affordable transportation, many aspects of daily life become difficult

[19:36] or impossible.

[19:39] Reliable transportation allows people with disabilities to get to work, job training,

[19:43] schools and universities.

[19:45] Many people with disabilities and those that no longer drive require regular medical appointments,

[19:50] therapy and specialized care.

[19:53] Accessible transportation ensures that they can attend appointments consistently, manage

[19:58] chronic conditions and maintain.

[20:01] Accessible transportation is designed to accommodate mobility services, sensory impairments, and other needs. Without proper services, individuals may be forced to use unsafe and unreliable alternatives. Equal access to transportation is a civil rights issue, laws such as the ADA require transportation systems to be accessible to people with disabilities.

[20:28] communities, and to have the same opportunities as everyone else.

[20:32] When people with disabilities can travel freely, communities benefit from greater workforce

[20:37] participation, consumer spending, and civic engagement.

[20:42] In short, accessible transportation is not a luxury for our kids.

[20:46] It's a necessity that enables people with disabilities to live a full, independent, and connected

[20:51] life.

[20:52] I've been greatly surprised by the number of my friends that live over here, and we've

[20:57] lived here for a long time, that don't even realize what pair transit and go-linked services

[21:02] are and what they provide to SMU and to UP.

[21:07] On one conversation, a friend of mine thought it was probably a good idea to drop out of

[21:11] Dart because the train system is so dangerous.

[21:14] When informed about Dart services that Trevor uses, she quickly changed her mind.

[21:19] Her response was, I had no idea.

[21:22] This is not about a bus ride down Preston Road or a travel train system that it entails

[21:29] much more.

[21:30] If this issue does not end up on the ballot in May perhaps do you the City Council

[21:34] or our mayor get some help communicate through the Arbor email perhaps or a personal email

[21:41] that defines exactly what Dart provides to our most vulnerable population.

[21:47] This would allow our citizens to make a more informed vote.

[21:52] I know the generosity of our city, and I have no doubt that they would be more than willing

[21:57] to continue to use the penny sales tax to support this vital service.

[22:02] And I would like to ask one question.

[22:05] We leave what alternative services will be available, and is it possible just to keep a portion,

[22:11] for instance, per transit for our kids?

[22:15] Thank you for the opportunity.

[22:18] If I can address your question because I was very sensitive to the paratransit in particular.

[22:22] Nobody knows about paratransit.

[22:25] And I asked just yesterday what the cost was for each paratransit ride and they said $65.

[22:31] Using darts numbers, and I questioned some of darts numbers, last year we had 702 paratransit rides.

[22:38] So we can, and by the way, it's a third party contractor that provides that service to darts.

[22:43] So we could contract with that same third-party provider that Dart contracts with for $65.

[22:49] Those 702 rides would cost us $45,630 a year.

[22:56] And in a minute, I'll get to how much we've contributed to Dart and

[22:59] what it will cost us to stay in Dart for the next six years.

[23:03] But for the paratransit, that's the reason I asked that specific question.

[23:07] Is that cost to the city would be $45,630 a year using

[23:12] large numbers for last year.

[23:13] I would pay $45,000 a year for my son to keep to bear

[23:17] transit.

[23:18] Understood?

[23:19] Thank you.

[23:19] That's why I investigated exactly that question.

[23:21] I greatly appreciate it.

[23:23] And Bobby Young, it's Texas with you.

[23:25] I know.

[23:27] Mr. Collier, you lived at $29.41, right?

[23:30] I'm sorry.

[23:31] You lived at $29.41, Milton?

[23:33] Yes, sir.

[23:33] I was closed.

[23:46] Tammy Greenberg?

[23:53] Dear Mayor and University of St. Council, my name is Tammy Greenberg

[23:57] to play in the 75215 zip code.

[24:01] I wanted to express my strong support to Dart and to share my public transit, the stage

[24:06] of for me, and many others in our community.

[24:08] Have rely on Dart for 18 years.

[24:10] My daily community takes me from Cedar's era to work in Oakland, else the regular use

[24:15] wild 237 and go link to travel to University Park on Thursday night.

[24:20] We're often stop a high-end pop village, shop at Tom Thumb, yeah, look at Westwood, our

[24:25] I visit the University Park Library.

[24:27] My final destination also include one hill and Preston.

[24:31] Dart is vital too because I no longer drive due to anxiety, concerns beating,

[24:36] aggressive drivers, and complete stops.

[24:38] This cost of fly sharing service like Uber was cost me $15 to $18,

[24:43] just to get home is prohibitive expense that compared to Dart.

[24:46] Any addition or change to Dart service will serve in potential workers,

[24:50] including employees and nannies who depend on this service to go to work.

[24:54] Find Black Crom on Trans if often discussed.

[24:57] I'm tired of focusing on the series with a drive-

[25:00] I'm anxious as the U.S. and I also use the ANC app to the safety concerns at DART.

[25:08] I urge you to support DART finance service, thank you for your time and consideration.

[25:12] And every Saturday and Sunday, I go on the Hill in Preston to 37 to Sheriff Isle to go to services.

[25:21] But thank you, please consider it to save DART.

[25:24] I've been doing this for 18 years and never imagined me coming to University Park.

[25:29] Council, Holland Park, to talk about, to save, and Austin.

[25:34] I even went to Austin.

[25:35] That's how important this is for me and us.

[25:38] Thank you.

[25:39] Thank you, Tammy.

[25:52] Then, Lee's Lee, Riddinson, help me a little bit, please.

[25:58] Oh, it's Lee's old bread, I'm at 34.29 a.m.

[26:03] Hurst, and I appreciate the opportunity to dress you all.

[26:05] So I also have an adult son with special needs.

[26:09] moved into University Park over 20 years ago because of my son and knowing how good the public schools were to support the special needs population.

[26:22] So Jacob went through higher through MIS, through Holland Park High School, through transition and is, this is his home.

[26:31] He now uses dark hair transit on a nearly daily basis to come home from his day program.

[26:41] I would question the 702 rides that dark says UP residents use on a yearly basis because

[26:47] just a little bit of math, if he's doing it four days a week, even with vacations, he's

[26:54] It's got well over 100 rides a year, every year, on dark pear transit.

[27:02] I can't get him to and from those places because I work.

[27:07] It's an essential part of keeping him active in the community,

[27:12] getting him out of the house, having him involved and engaged.

[27:16] My life in University Park with my son will not function without pear transit availability.

[27:23] That needs to be kept intact, thank you.

[27:27] Thank you.

[27:29] And just for the record, I'll let you know that Dart has told us for

[27:32] paratransit in physical year 25, it was 702 rides, in physical year 24, it was 1727 rides.

[27:41] And in physical year 23, it was 1514.

[27:45] Those are Dart's numbers and I'm just reading what they've provided us.

[28:02] Good evening, thank you all so much for the opportunity to speak.

[28:06] My name is Kim Rose-Devilp, I live at 4132 Hanover Street.

[28:10] I am here not only as a parent of a child with special needs.

[28:13] I have my daughter Caroline, who's 22 right here, about to age out of the

[28:17] Pacifica Public School System.

[28:19] But I'm also the chief development officer for the largest nonprofit in North Texas that serves adults within

[28:25] intellectual disabilities, my possibilities.

[28:27] We serve approximately 1,900 adults within intellectual disabilities across the state of Texas.

[28:34] Yes, and Caroline will be going to college there next year, when she graduates.

[28:40] And I am here also like Julie, and we're useful to tell you the impact that dark paratransit has on these families.

[28:48] I'm here to represent those who can't speak for themselves.

[28:50] At my possibilities, we serve on our day program approximately 650 adults during the weekdays.

[28:57] Of those adults who come 67% of them who use dark paratrans that come from outside of Plano.

[29:03] They come from cities like University Park, and the only way they can access meaningful day programs is by using the paratrans it's authority.

[29:11] So I'm going to ask you all to say no to this ordinance unless you create a second ordinance that provides a true alternative.

[29:18] And like you said, Mr. Philbin, that comes up with an alternative for our families in University Park to have paratransit services,

[29:26] whether that's going to day programs, that's going to jobs, that is going to respite opportunities,

[29:32] going to medical appointments, our families need to rely on this.

[29:35] We are so incredibly blessed to live in this community.

[29:38] And I know this community will do the right thing for these families because that is what we do as a community.

[29:42] We take care of those who can't take care of themselves.

[29:44] And so I just thank you for this opportunity to share our story and I'm happy to ask answer any questions on behalf of our organization or our family.

[29:53] Thank you.

[29:54] Thank you.

[29:55] Thank you.

[29:56] Congratulations on the Texas.

[30:05] Good

[30:11] evening, mayor, city council, town council, Mr. Manager. I'm Gary Slagel. I live a 21-bunker

[30:20] hill in Richardson, Texas. I have since joining Dart in 2011 represented University Park,

[30:29] Park, Holland Park, Richardson, and Addison.

[30:34] That's an appointed position and I appreciate the opportunity to work with this community.

[30:42] I ask you to vote no on this item.

[30:47] We have a lot of work in progress with the member cities including the University Park, City

[30:55] Council and Manager and Mayor.

[30:57] We've been talking for several months, we have more to do, and I would like to ask that you continue to let us work through that.

[31:07] As Chair Bryant said, we have issues that we're addressing, and part of that is certainly financing.

[31:14] And we've got work to do on, we've learned from talking to these members at this dais that there are a number of things we could do to improve the city.

[31:27] situation. We'd like to ask you to do that. We will not be settling any debt between

[31:34] now and in May, or issuing any debt. We have, so that would give you the opportunity

[31:42] to see what happens within the region, and also call your own election in November, should

[31:49] you think it's appropriate to do so. At no cost, really, to you. So I ask you to do that

[31:56] to consider it, and let us keep working together.

[32:00] Thank you so much.

[32:12] Alex, don't you?

[32:21] Ooh, yo, let me tell y'all something.

[32:23] As a black man in this city, a bunch of cracker jacks up

[32:27] in this, trying to limit the dark.

[32:29] I like to go, and I like to get the blunt,

[32:31] and I smoke on the blunt, Mayor Stewart.

[32:33] And I don't want to get in my dogs, challenger,

[32:34] and run over some of these people.

[32:36] So I need the bus, okay?

[32:38] As a black sophisticated individual, like myself.

[32:41] And I've got probation, I'm on probation.

[32:43] So if I get pulled over, I'm doing

[32:45] nine to ten years. So let me tell you something. If you outlawed this boy and I don't care

[32:50] of dark history, dead ass rioting today. I don't give a damn. All right, and you're the biggest

[32:55] honky in here. He's got white hair, honky looking much. David Duke looking, slave owning, mother

[33:00] trucker, trying to outlaw the

[33:09] trucker, jacks. Outlawed that boy. Oh, they're going to

[33:19] be in

[33:19] some better stores. Y'all better vote, and y'all better keep the dark in university park.

[33:24] That's in order for me and all the black Hebrew Israelites to ride with me.

[33:30] Thank you.

[33:55] I mean, that's all I've got to want to speak now.

[33:57] Anybody else want to speak to that sign up?

[34:00] I'll give you that opportunity.

[34:02] Yes, sir.

[34:04] Come here.

[34:05] Come here.

[34:06] Hello.

[34:11] My name is Shamsur Ganeshra.

[34:12] I'm an aspiring SME student.

[34:13] And I live in Frisco, Texas, some five, zero, three, five.

[34:15] I am speaking in opposition of item 25-306.

[34:18] I'm a member of the Douse Area Transit Alliance,

[34:20] otherwise known as data.

[34:21] My concerns are mainly with us, and me that college students would be heavily affected by a lack of being served along the 237 in the University Park.

[34:30] Additionally, given that the city is right next to the red orange and blue line, and is right next to Route 20, right across the border, the city would be free-loaning on service without paying into the system.

[34:39] Lastly, a few things about safety and service.

[34:40] I've wrote Dart alone many times and felt perfectly safe.

[34:44] Also, pair transit alone is not reliable, I'll be honest.

[34:48] It is the reason I got left stranded in two hours in Arlington, dead at night.

[34:56] We need to depend on fixed route too, fixed route is a much more-

[35:00] We're dependable, reliable service, and I'm not saying that we should get rid of pair transit. We need pair transit for the plentiful of disabled writers or writers who are mobility impaired, but it alone is not going to be the right solution. Putting more cars on the road is not the solution. We need mass transit that is reliable and dependable. Thank you. I yield my time.

[35:26] I miss anybody.

[35:36] Mayor, can I start? Yes. Thank you. And let me start with while I understand and believe in the value of safe.

[35:43] safe, clean, and reliable regional public transportation.

[35:47] I'm concerned about Dart's model and Dart's model in particular about how it applies to the University Park.

[35:54] Last night, thank you to Dart for coming and having a robust discussion about these issues.

[35:59] I raised three points with Dart last night.

[36:03] One, as Walt Human mentioned, and when he spoke, the competitive disadvantage that the City of University Park is at,

[36:10] that compared to competitor cities to the north that have chosen not to become a member of Dart.

[36:16] Mr. Court, can you summarize for our audience the competitive disadvantages that we have?

[36:23] Sure, and I'll kind of relay conversations you and I've had.

[36:29] And Mr. Human was right, the legislature is placed a significant financial burden on cities by lowering the ability of cities to levied property taxes.

[36:38] It's capped at 3.5%.

[36:40] That has made sales tax that much more important for cities and that's not just University Park

[36:45] that's every city in Texas.

[36:49] But when you ask me this question, I thought of a couple cities that were relevant to this

[36:53] discussion.

[36:53] The first one would be Capell and the second one would be Flower Mound.

[36:56] Both of those were original Dart cities that ended up getting out of Dart and by getting

[37:03] Getting out of Dart, what they were able to do is to add an additional penny to cost that they would otherwise be paying for out of their general fund.

[37:12] So for example, Capel has a half cent special 4B sales tax which goes towards parks projects.

[37:19] These are parks projects that for us, if they were similar projects, we would be paying for out of the general fund.

[37:25] These are being paid for out of a special revenue fund by the sales tax.

[37:28] They also have a quarter cent maintenance and repair of existing city streets.

[37:33] So any street overlay work, any type of project related to street improvements, street reconstruction could be paid for out of that sales tax.

[37:41] The remaining quarter cent that they have is for a crime control and prevention district.

[37:44] So this could be directly for police and fire salaries or police salaries.

[37:48] Flow amount is a little different based upon kind of some of their budgetary documents.

[37:55] They have a one and a half percent sale tax that goes directly to the general fund.

[37:59] We're capped at 1 percent in that regard.

[38:02] Then they have a quarter cent crime control and prevention district.

[38:05] This allows for any type of police or crime prevention costs to go into that district.

[38:11] The other quarter percent goes into a fire control and prevention and emergency medical.

[38:15] So by the city paying a penny into Dart, it prohibits us from adopting another additional sales tax to pay for these types of cost.

[38:24] And these are all general fund types of costs.

[38:26] These are things that we pay for primarily out of our property tax.

[38:31] I hope that answers your question.

[38:32] I'm happy to answer any others.

[38:34] Thank you, Mr. Court.

[38:35] The other two issues I raised with Dart last night were debt and proportionality.

[38:40] And when I started thinking about Dart and run in some numbers,

[38:46] the first number everyone says is sales tax.

[38:49] And from Dart's inception to this year, the University Park Sales Tax that has been

[38:55] contributed to Dart is $122,063,904.

[39:01] That's a large number.

[39:05] There's another piece, the debt and general obligations.

[39:09] We've asked Dart for a calculation as have other cities.

[39:13] And again, using Dart's numbers, which may be disputed, the net obligation that Dart has calculated that City of University Park owes based on

[39:23] In general, obligations of $9,766,711,312,

[39:36] Dart says we owe them an additional $91,721,650.

[39:45] That includes billions and billions of debt that Dart has incurred.

[39:52] So, looking backward, the City of University Park is being asked to contribute at least 200.

[40:00] 13 million dollars to dark. Much of which for commuter rail and light rail that dark shows to put elsewhere. But tonight, what we focus on is we only get the opportunity to withdraw from dark once every six years. So the question tonight is what's the cost of us to stay in dark for another six years. Using this year's sales tax number, and we hope our improvements

[40:29] Since Snyder Plaza and Miracle Mile are going to lead to additional sales taxes, but I'm going to keep the sales tax number flat.

[40:36] Last year, it was $7,331,452.

[40:41] So if we don't decide to pull out of Dart now, we will contribute another $43,988,712.

[40:51] But again, we have to consider the debt piece.

[40:54] Looking at Dart's long-term 20-year plan, Dart has estimated that they will take out an additional $2.5 billion in debt in the next 20 years.

[41:11] But Dart has decided to front-load that in the front seven years.

[41:16] And if we stay in for the next six years, again, using DART's numbers, that would be an additional $2.255 billion of debt incurred by DART.

[41:28] The number I don't have is the additional obligations, because when DART did their $9 billion calculation, part of that was debt and part of that was other obligations.

[41:38] So I think there's other obligations in that number that will make this number even higher, but we don't need to go there.

[41:44] So, if we use the same proportion as Dart's calculation, that additional $2.255 billion will be an additional $22.55 million of cost to the City of University Park to stay in Dart for another six years.

[42:01] Dart has said, if you pull out, we will stop all services immediately.

[42:08] So, I looked at the services that Dart provides in the City of University Park.

[42:13] They provide part of the cost for an SMU shuttle, the cost of that is $381,924 a year.

[42:21] They provide paratransit, and the paratransit number using last year's numbers was $45,630.

[42:30] And if I use the highest number that Dart gave us in the last three years, it's $112,255.

[42:38] Goal link is essentially Uber.

[42:41] If you Uber from one side of University Park to the other side of University Park, I estimated cost you about $10.

[42:47] If I give Dart all $10, even though they charge for that service, using their numbers for last year, that's $78,500.

[42:57] So the yearly cost to replace the services that Dart currently offers in the City of University Park is $506,054.

[43:08] for a six year total of $36,324.

[43:15] And I thought about, some people have asked me, well, Dart could pull the line on Preston, the last bus line existing in the City of University Park.

[43:25] Well, Dart's already done that to us.

[43:27] We started off with nine bus lines, and Dart has systematically dwindled the bus line service in the City of University Park.

[43:37] We don't have bus service to Snyder Plaza.

[43:40] We don't have bus service to Miracle Mile.

[43:43] The two areas we've just invested in to generate sales tax.

[43:47] So the proportionality of it is if they're providing over the next six years,

[43:53] $3 million of services for a cost to the city to stay in for six years of $66 million, $538, $712, $66 million, $538,000, $712.

[44:10] That's the proportionality argument and the numbers are stunning.

[44:18] I'm not saying it should be a one-to-one correlation, but

[44:22] But this is nowhere close.

[44:25] And I asked start last night, will you guarantee us a minimum level of service?

[44:30] No.

[44:30] Will you stop taking out debt?

[44:33] No.

[44:33] Will you pay down the existing debt?

[44:35] Well, we pay down some debt, but we've also taking out an additional $2.255 billion in debt.

[44:44] Given that this is the window that we have, I think we should at a minimum allow our voters

[44:51] to look at the facts and see if they want to agree to pay

[44:55] dorked another $66 million.

[45:00] For a little over $3 million in service. And for that reason, I'm in favor, unless anybody else would like to speak, I'm happy to make a motion.

[45:13] In light of the dwindling services that Dart has provided in the city of University Park and the increasing that the lack of proportionality and the competitive disadvantage that our membership in Dart has caused compared to competitor cities like Frisco and McKinney. I propose that we ask our voters,

[45:32] give our voters the opportunity to withdraw from Dart.

[45:36] And therefore, I move approval of 35306, an ordinance ordering a special election on Saturday, May 2nd, 2026 to dissolve the Dallas Area Rapid Transit System in the City of University Park.

[45:48] Just to clarify, it's 2025-300, thank you.

[45:55] We've got a motion.

[45:57] I'll second.

[45:58] A motion in a second.

[46:00] Mr. Raymond?

[46:01] Aye.

[46:01] Feel free of it?

[46:02] Aye.

[46:03] Mark Aldridge?

[46:03] Aye.

[46:04] By March, aye.

[46:05] In the very row time.

[46:06] It passes.

[46:11] Next item, Robbie.

[46:19] Okay.

[46:19] Mayor and council.

[46:20] The next item is a continuation of a zoning case regarding the list Charles restaurant located

[46:26] in the graduate hotel at 61-01 Hillcress.

[46:29] This is for the installation of a solid fuel smoke house structure.

[46:33] I'd ask Kagan Mitchell, our director of public works, to write a brief summary of this as

[46:39] as well as some of the recent input that we've had from both the applicant as well as those that expressed opposition to it.

[46:46] Thank you, Mr. Carter.

[46:48] Good evening, Mayor and City Council.

[46:51] Just to highlight, recap what we did at the December 16th meeting for anybody that wasn't aware.

[46:57] I presented this item to you, asking for a public hearing which we conducted.

[47:02] Lots of good discussion between both the applicant, Mr. Farrell, and some residents.

[47:08] and some of the parents or people associated with the community school.

[47:15] From that, I asked you to consider an ordinance, and through that discussion, council made a

[47:24] motion to table the item and allow time for the applicant and neighbors in the community

[47:30] school to try to discuss other options, come to a compromise, and then we would bring

[47:36] back to you. In the last several weeks, Mr. Farrell has had a few different meetings.

[47:44] The first meeting that he had was only with one attendee. The second meeting he had

[47:49] three attendees. Both meetings were very constructive, focused on the understanding of

[47:53] the project. He shared that it's a fully enclosed structure and how he's going to mitigate

[48:02] the smoke. And then there was a number or a third meeting that was set by, I believe it was

[48:09] a resident, that the applicant attended. Started out again, very constructive, very productive

[48:16] meeting. And then shortly after that it started declining. So Mr. Priller excused himself. He gave

[48:23] everybody at the meeting his handout which is some mockups that I'll get to in a minute. And then

[48:28] and also the information for the smokey smoke eater

[48:31] that's supposed to mitigate the smoke,

[48:34] the renderings of the structure and all the specifics

[48:38] on that.

[48:39] After that, he also met with another resident

[48:42] to go over the details and then also some parents

[48:45] of the kid that goes to the community school,

[48:48] both respectful meetings, but ultimately there was,

[48:52] it never got to any results, no compromises came out of that.

[48:56] So

[48:59] that was a recap what's happened in the last several weeks as I presented to you last

[49:04] time.

[49:05] This is the graduate hotel, Los Charles is housed in there.

[49:09] This is currently in PD number 22.

[49:14] For PNZ, they sent out mailings in a 200-foot buffer.

[49:18] They received 87 notices back, mailed out 87, they received 12 back, opposed one in favor,

[49:25] and then some outside of that buffer also said that they were opposed.

[49:30] Prior to the council meeting, we received several emails of people being opposed.

[49:34] We also received a couple signed petitions, one from the community school with 50 opposed and

[49:40] another from residents, 45 opposed to, of course, with no opinion.

[49:46] Now, I want to remind everybody that the PD amendment is not to install a smoker.

[49:51] or smokers are allowed in our restaurants.

[49:54] The PD amendment that we're here for is adding

[49:58] that structure to.

[50:00] We do the building is the amendment to the PD. There's no room inside of the Los Charois, the restaurant, to add the smoker inside. That's why he wants to build a fully enclosed building. On the next slide you can see some of the renderings. So the picture on the right is the rendering that I received from the applicant of what this building on the left. It's right now, it just houses the trash and a few other things there. But that's where the building would go.

[50:28] You can see the smokey smoke eater up on the top, and we heard the specifics on how that's supposed to mitigate the smoke coming out of there.

[50:37] The applicant told us in our pre-session that he has been looking at ways to extend the smoke stack to be taller, so

[50:47] it'd get over top of the buildings.

[50:49] He's waiting to hear back from his engineer or designer on being able to go taller, but

[50:54] but that is something that he is willing to do,

[50:56] or he's looking into.

[50:58] I don't want to put words into his mouth,

[51:01] because that was one of the main concerns

[51:03] is the pollutants that are coming out of the smoke.

[51:09] Next, I've got a couple shop drawings

[51:12] of what it would look like.

[51:13] Again, the smoke stack, I got the laser,

[51:16] the smoke stack here, he is looking at,

[51:18] trying to get that higher.

[51:20] I believe right now it's about 20 feet tall.

[51:24] and we'll see what his engineer designer gets back to.

[51:31] Though the previous time I had recommended

[51:33] that you guys conduct public hearing,

[51:35] and then consider a draft ordinance,

[51:37] since we already held the public hearing,

[51:39] this one has been changed.

[51:40] I'm asking for consideration of the draft ordinance

[51:43] proposed PD number 22,

[51:47] and then also wanted to let you know

[51:48] that planning and zoning had heard this,

[51:51] and their recommendation was to take this forward

[51:53] to council with their approval.

[51:54] So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions or address any comments you may have.

[52:05] Any questions?

[52:07] No.

[52:08] If not, we'll get into the public hearing part.

[52:11] Thank you.

[52:17] Addison Fontaine.

[52:20] Thank you for coming.

[52:29] Bye-bye.

[52:32] Good evening.

[52:33] I'm Addison Fontaine.

[52:35] I live at 4104 Bremar.

[52:37] And I believe I sent over a slide deck earlier this morning if there's a way we can get that

[52:46] up on the screen.

[52:46] But if not, that's fine.

[52:48] I have no.

[52:48] So,

[52:53] okay.

[52:53] I will proceed.

[52:55] So, I'm here today on an opposition of the proposed ordinance.

[53:00] And I would like to say, I think that you did a good job of covering everything, but there's

[53:06] a couple more details I'd just like to add for Council's consideration.

[53:12] Yesterday, I met with Mr. Farrell and thank you for your time.

[53:17] We discussed some potential resolutions or potentially revising the statute such that

[53:26] the smoker would only run during certain hours, not during school hours and things of that

[53:30] nature.

[53:31] So, you know, I recommend it if you'd like to send some language over for consideration that might be something that we could look into.

[53:41] Short of that, however, I think that, at present, the proposed ordinance to amend the plan development has far more risk than outweigh any benefit.

[53:53] But I'd also like to say that separating the actual structure from the smoker is really not fair.

[54:03] I think that they cannot genuinely be separated because of the smoker or without the structure,

[54:10] you don't have the smoker and vice versa.

[54:14] There's several risks that outweigh the stated benefits that we heard just earlier.

[54:20] It's smoke is hazardous to human health it is a huge odor which will be a nuisance to University Park. It's also a pollutant.

[54:31] It's right next to the community school where my daughter attends and they've done such a great job at the community school.

[54:38] They even got my two year old to sit straight right here on this step.

[54:42] The playground is just steps away where the babies are is just steps away.

[54:47] And the pollutants associated with industrial smokers are voluminous.

[54:52] They have particulate matter, carbon monoxide, VOCs, organic acids, nitrogen oxides.

[55:00] Meeting a Stanford University Medical Center study that had numerous doctors on it. These all

[55:07] have inherent risks to health,

[55:13] long irritation, asthma, cancer, you name it. Now, the ordinances

[55:18] of University Park, perhaps they allow smokehouse fuel and structures and things of that nature.

[55:25] They don't allow individuals to come in and create an odor, a nuisance, pollutants in the air or disrupt human health.

[55:33] There's a litany of ordinances that do you say that?

[55:37] And I think while we want to be business forward, we want to have a flexible approach and that's the whole point of a planned development.

[55:46] Sometimes we have to be practical and putting children's health in danger is simply just not practical.

[55:53] And I'm happy to send any of those studies to your attention and if you'd like.

[55:57] Thank you.

[55:58] Thank you.

[56:03] Morgan Bass.

[56:10] Morgan Bass.

[56:11] Will it speak?

[56:29] Good evening.

[56:29] And thank you for the time.

[56:30] My name is Curtis Downs.

[56:31] I'm a 42-year resident of University Park.

[56:34] I live at 3436 Pinkley Avenue.

[56:38] Under Councilman's Filman's recommendation last time, I met with Corby on three separate occasions.

[56:44] The first one is the two of us.

[56:47] We found common ground, talked about our backgrounds, et cetera.

[56:50] He taught me about his business.

[56:52] They currently get their meets from a smoker right on the other side of 75,

[56:56] which is about seven minutes away.

[56:59] The smoker is indeed a baggy, so is old smoker.

[57:02] And he commented and told me that, hey, nobody ever commented on them.

[57:05] And I said, totally understand that, but it doesn't back up to the school or into a neighborhood.

[57:10] So in our second meeting, we came up with a couple of points that we could discuss.

[57:15] The first one being about moving the smoker to either the Northeast or Southeast corner of the property.

[57:20] By doing so, some of the smoke would not be because intrusive to the park city's community school.

[57:25] Corpus response is no.

[57:28] Smoke meets only on weekends when the school is not in session.

[57:32] Corpus response, no.

[57:34] Smoke meets from only 6 PM to 7 AM during the time when children are not present.

[57:39] Corpus response? No.

[57:42] Continued to use the current housing where they get their meets are supplied?

[57:47] Corpus response? No.

[57:49] Pledge not to smoke meets for other restaurants? Corpus response? No.

[57:53] Now, it wasn't a complete loss. We did talk about raising the stack and he said that he would look into that.

[57:58] In a further working session he said he's already started that process and we appreciate that.

[58:05] So, in my opinion, a $250,000 outlay using the amount of barbecue that he's currently selling,

[58:12] it would take an incredible long time to pay back that amount.

[58:17] Regarding the industrial smoker, Corby's stated several times it was his right to install

[58:23] the smoker because he met with the fire marshal and the health department.

[58:27] I don't see where Corby's rights supersede the rights of the parents who wanted to clean

[58:31] and healthy smoke-free environment for their children to learn, play, and grow.

[58:36] They currently have 60 students and they can accommodate up to 80.

[58:40] I don't see where Corby's rights should supersede the rights of the community school's rights.

[58:44] After there, they've been there at school and operation for over 70 years in one form or another.

[58:49] I don't see where Corby's rights supersede the rights of 17 people whose jobs are in jeopardy

[58:54] if they allow the smoker to be installed.

[58:57] I don't see where Corby's rights supersede the rights of neighbors who don't want to

[59:01] We're living close proximity to industrial meat smoker.

[59:07] I don't see where Corby's rights supersede in all likelihood that client and property value if he's allowed to install the industrial wood smoker.

[59:15] In closing, I would like to say that our meetings have been professional, cordial and informative.

[59:20] And I've been totally enjoyed in meeting him.

[59:23] Just because Corby claims the right to install a smoker doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

[59:29] If the council votes yes, the roof will be installed, the smoke will be installed as

[59:35] well, and the enrollment of the community is going to decline.

[59:38] Eventually close, losing 17 jobs, and the surrounding neighbors will be experienced

[59:43] to decline in property values.

[59:45] I strongly encourage the Court City Council to reject the proposal of adding a roof to

[59:49] the nearby graduate hotel.

[59:52] Corby-Prayall's restaurant will remain unaffected by this.

[59:55] He can still get his mates, quality meets seven minutes away.

[1:00:00] Most of all, we are gambling with the health of children at the community school today. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. I'll stay if you have any questions. Thank you.

[1:00:16] Millie, Rudebeck?

[1:00:23] Good evening, I'm Melanie Rudebeck, and I'm the Executive Director of the Community School of the Park Cities.

[1:00:29] I have been working there for 20 years, and I consider it my life's work.

[1:00:36] And I really, even though I appreciate meeting with Corby, and

[1:00:43] I know he has a business, he wants to run, but we just never could come to any kind of agreement that would keep the kids out of danger.

[1:00:50] and I just really strongly request that you say that they can't have that whatever you want to call it, the structure, because I just feel like it's too dangerous to these babies.

[1:01:02] I mean, we couldn't get the picture put up there, but they're like right across from that smoker.

[1:01:09] The porch is high, it's like the smoke is going to go on the babies, we won't be able to take them outside, which is a vital part of development.

[1:01:19] We're required to take them outside by the child care licensing.

[1:01:23] And so I just, I think that we should be able to come to a way of them getting to smoke and as still having our business.

[1:01:31] And I know child care is not priority in that other businesses are probably top priority.

[1:01:38] But a lot of these parents are depending on us.

[1:01:40] And I just thank you for your time, so I hope you'll consider that.

[1:01:44] Thank you.

[1:01:45] Thank you, Mary.

[1:01:48] Susan Bruns.

[1:02:00] Mayor and city council members, thank you for allowing me to speak again today.

[1:02:07] My name is Susan Bruns.

[1:02:09] I'm a resident and homeowner at 3417 Grenada Avenue.

[1:02:13] Been a long time resident of the University Park and the love living in the city.

[1:02:19] I'm here to express my serious concerns in regard to this building being approved.

[1:02:27] Construction of a smokehouse building that is in close approximation, certainly of the community school,

[1:02:37] as well as my concern exists for the McCullough Intermediate School and Highland Park Middle School.

[1:02:47] There's 2,000 students on that campus.

[1:02:50] This smoker is going, the smoker building and the smoker that it will in house is to be less than a city block from that building, okay?

[1:02:59] We're talking 2,000 students.

[1:03:01] They all have a 15 minute period where they come out for recess and lunch every day.

[1:03:07] There's, what, athletics and PE.

[1:03:10] They're outdoors all the time throughout the course of the day, okay?

[1:03:17] The proposed structure is reportedly within only 10 feet of the community school, 10 feet I've pasted off.

[1:03:25] It's right there, right now their depiction of the smoke stack above the house is probably two to three feet above that.

[1:03:34] So the building is four or five stories high.

[1:03:37] That is not adequate, needless to say.

[1:03:40] And then they're smoky, the smoke detector.

[1:03:43] I've looked at their information that they've shared on that.

[1:03:46] That is not 100% sure.

[1:03:49] There's going to be smoke smell every time they're smoking, the smoking of the meat.

[1:03:55] That's going to be there, that's a nuisance.

[1:03:58] As well as we as residents, I know we all have pest control for our homes, so

[1:04:02] therefore, they're already coming at least quarterly to refill the rat traps or

[1:04:09] whatever they are that they put things in there.

[1:04:13] because at night, you can see rats going across the tops of our fences that are between our houses and the duplexes that are over there.

[1:04:25] So those are my major concerns, okay?

[1:04:28] At this time, we as residents have not been provided anything in writing in regard to what the smokehouse is going to comply with.

[1:04:39] whether that be mechanical code requirements,

[1:04:42] fire code requirements, building code provisions,

[1:04:47] nuisance and air quality standards, okay?

[1:04:50] Those are all concerns for our health, okay?

[1:04:54] Serious matter.

[1:04:55] And those poor babies, the school's going to go under.

[1:04:58] I'm a retired school principal.

[1:05:00] In principle, I know, they lose a few children over there. They have such a small population. They have 17 employees. They're there every day. Their revenue is going to decrease. It could also decrease the revenue of the hotel. Because what residents are going to want to stay on those second floors with balconies, they back up to the alley, and that smoke is drifting right across those balconies. Nobody wants that. They will have registered complaints against them.

[1:05:28] I mean, one small business to put all these other businesses at a place that have been around forever,

[1:05:35] that's not right, I'm sorry, it's not the right thing to do, especially for the health of those of us concerned.

[1:05:43] I'm a cancer survivor, I don't want to inhale the smell of the smoke day in and day out.

[1:05:50] They say they're going to only smoke a little bit of amount just for their restaurant over there.

[1:05:54] But why, even there are smoking the meat now, seven minutes from that location.

[1:06:01] It makes no sense to put it right there where those babies are out daily.

[1:06:06] I live right behind the school, I know.

[1:06:11] If the building permit can be issued for the structure, that introduces smoke and

[1:06:17] carcinogenic particulate so close to schools that I respectfully suggest that additional conditions,

[1:06:24] restrictions or denial of the permit should be considered to ensure compliance with university

[1:06:30] parks, health, safety, and nuisance standards.

[1:06:35] And if those are not in place, then they need to be revisited and re-done again in regard

[1:06:44] to allowing such things within our restaurants or in a separate building outside the hotel.

[1:06:50] Okay? It's your responsibility as a council to ensure and protect the children and the residents

[1:07:00] of the University Park, a beautiful city in which we all reside. You know, I only thank

[1:07:06] you for your time and for your service to the University Park. I hope you will give

[1:07:11] it your utmost respect and consideration and postpone honoring this building permit. It's

[1:07:29] That's all I have in opposition.

[1:07:34] Coleman Brown, the supporting favor of this, you want to speak?

[1:07:37] You got one more

[1:07:43] in the back, but you've

[1:07:53] got one more that said it was opposed.

[1:07:55] Yeah, come on up.

[1:08:09] Hi.

[1:08:10] I don't know what to do, this is my first time.

[1:08:13] Sorry I'm nervous and I'm an engineer, so this is not my normal situation.

[1:08:16] If you start with your name and address.

[1:08:19] Okay.

[1:08:19] Thank you.

[1:08:19] Sorry.

[1:08:21] Morgan Bass, 34, 35, Grinada Avenue.

[1:08:26] I'm going to stick to the script because I did submit this, but I did add one extra word,

[1:08:31] which I'll indicate.

[1:08:32] Good evening, Mayor.

[1:08:33] Members of Council and City staff, thank you guys all for your service.

[1:08:36] I personally appreciate it, and I know how hard of a job it is.

[1:08:39] So I wanted to say thank you.

[1:08:41] I come before you today to advocate to be proactive and protective to upgrade our City

[1:08:46] these zoning centers.

[1:08:48] Mike requested specific that we establish a required buffer for a new and existing,

[1:08:54] which I added, businesses seeking permits for cigar lounges,

[1:08:58] or commercial barbecue smoke or operations that produce significant ambient smoke

[1:09:03] when they are proposed within one city block radius of any pre-existing child care facilities

[1:09:09] with outdoor play areas, Highland Park School playgrounds,

[1:09:13] or elderly community centers because all of those individuals matter within our great community, I truly believe that.

[1:09:20] The intent of the statement is to provide counsel with clear preventative tools.

[1:09:24] It ensures that a conflict between a smoke generating business in our sensitive population,

[1:09:28] our young children which I have a first and third grader, our students that play of all grades and

[1:09:34] our elderly residents that does not occur in university part.

[1:09:38] The science of second hand and ambient smoke after I spoke to two ER doctor friends who are Helen Park residents is clear and established.

[1:09:47] Children and the elderly are particularly vulnerable to respiratory harm in irritations from prolonged or concentrated exposure.

[1:09:55] Our community, which I believe in my hearts of hearts, pride ourself in, accept.

[1:10:00] We have an actual quality of life, why I love this neighborhood so much, the beautiful neighborhood in an of wavering commitment to family and well-being, which I think all of you up here know and love because I don't think you would choose this job if you didn't. Allow such a business who operated immediately adjacent to a space where children play or elderly residency care. In my view would be incompatible with high standards of safety and well-for, well-fair, we as university park residents and council, I think you guys uphold. This is not an issue of restricting business.

[1:10:29] by all means. I don't think that's right. I work in corporate America. But one of intelligent

[1:10:34] and compassionate planning is about placing the right uses in the right locations to avoid,

[1:10:39] to avoid predictable and preventable harm to our great citizens of University Park.

[1:10:44] This proposed standard is a measure of foresight. It protects our value of existing institutions,

[1:10:50] safeguards public health and provides clear guidelines for future developers and existing,

[1:10:55] That's another act.

[1:10:56] It upholds our duty to ensure the well-being of our amazing community residents and visitors,

[1:11:01] and users of a preschool because they could be a Holland Park teacher, for example.

[1:11:08] Let's continue to leave with high integrity and high standards, which I know and believe

[1:11:12] that University Park does every day.

[1:11:14] Place the health and safety of our residents at the forefront of zoning decisions.

[1:11:19] This is for the betterment of our entire community.

[1:11:21] This is not about me, myself, and I today.

[1:11:24] This is not for my husband who has severe asthma and his lungs went down to his kidneys and he was one minute of dying at medical city.

[1:11:32] Or the babies who are on those backbiting who can't speak today.

[1:11:37] Thank you for your time and consideration, and I want to leave this with you to think.

[1:11:42] Because I think all of you are great stewards of the community because you wouldn't sit on this council if you didn't earn the spot.

[1:11:48] So thank you for your service.

[1:11:49] But my question to you, to all these University Park City Council members and the co-innovates of Los

[1:11:55] Charles same behind me, do you want to be a battery for the community progress,

[1:12:00] energizing positive, healthy growth, or do you want to be a risk, becoming a vacuum,

[1:12:06] drawing away from the values and well-being that I believe in my hearts and heart,

[1:12:10] that Park City's community members at all ages who can't be for themselves today.

[1:12:15] Thank you very much for your consideration.

[1:12:16] I appreciate your service, and I appreciate your time today.

[1:12:20] Thank you.

[1:12:25] Anybody else speaking opposition?

[1:12:35] Good evening.

[1:12:36] Thank you for so much for allowing me to speak.

[1:12:40] My name is John Kim, and I live at 34 or 15 Granada.

[1:12:44] I actually had a nice meeting with Corby yesterday, and he's welcome to come up and speak

[1:12:49] to if he wants.

[1:12:53] Obviously, I'm an opposition of the smoker.

[1:12:56] I've stated that I've showed up at every meeting, but the one thing I want to point out is I think there's some confusion because people think that we're just approving the structure for the smoker.

[1:13:08] But an outdoor smoker, there's nothing in the laws of University Park that outright allows an outdoor smoker.

[1:13:17] A smoker can be allowed if they want to have it inside the restaurant.

[1:13:21] We have no problem with that because then it's a smaller smoker.

[1:13:24] but the smoker that Corby showed me pictures of is huge and nobody wants to live next to the smoker.

[1:13:31] And so, if you approve the structure, that's essentially approving an outdoor smoker.

[1:13:38] It's the same thing, so that's what we are here to discuss.

[1:13:42] And I do believe and ask that the city please consider the new synthetic a create on the residents,

[1:13:50] the hazard of the smoke on the residents and also the children of the daycare.

[1:13:55] The damage that it could do to the community school, which is a very sentimental business in our neighborhood.

[1:14:01] A lot of residents have gone to the community school, their kids have gone there, a lot of parents whose kids go there, live in the park cities.

[1:14:09] And one of them told me that they would be devastated and it will all sleep at night because if they lose their ability to have daycare,

[1:14:17] It will adversely affect their ability to work and they don't want that.

[1:14:22] So I don't think this issue is going to go away, even if you do approve it.

[1:14:27] And it was very difficult for us to try to meet because it was during the holidays.

[1:14:32] And I feel like we need more time to try to reach an agreement.

[1:14:36] I ask that you please not approve the structure for the smoker because I have walked by that restaurant so many times it's empty.

[1:14:45] It is empty. There's no reason why they need a big smoke or like that.

[1:14:50] But Corby told me yesterday that he thinks maybe he would be okay with doing 20 briskets.

[1:14:57] He thinks he just needs 20 briskets a week.

[1:15:00] And if you do approve it, please consider doing it on a conditional basis and give us time to work out some agreements. Like I don't think all the world's problems can be solved in one meeting. But just by saying yes or no, sometimes you can chip away at this and we can, you could do a conditional permit or impose restrictions on this. So that's all that I ask. And if you could give us more time because I do think I don't know if Corby had a chance to tell you about it.

[1:15:29] But I do feel like we had a good meeting yesterday.

[1:15:32] But it was very hard during the holidays trying to get everyone together.

[1:15:36] So thank you.

[1:15:37] Thank you.

[1:15:42] Cool one, Brown.

[1:15:48] I'm coming, Brown, 39.05, Brinmore.

[1:15:50] I wasn't playing on speaking, but since you call my name Mayor, I will.

[1:15:54] I have two sons that go to the middle school.

[1:15:57] So I have children nearby.

[1:15:59] We love Los Charros.

[1:16:01] I would just urge y'all to focus on what's in front of you.

[1:16:04] And it's a staff recommended for approval installation of a commercial smokehouse structure to structure.

[1:16:13] What goes on inside that structure will have to abide by all of the codes and

[1:16:17] regulations that are already on the books, health wise, vending wise.

[1:16:21] So, but what's in front of you all is the approval that was recommended by your staff for

[1:16:29] the construction of a structure, and we supported in the community.

[1:16:31] We supported our children at the middle school, and we look forward to Liz Charrows being a vibrant business in our community, so thank you very much.

[1:16:49] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, John Fainter, 429 Hanover, I wasn't playing on speaking tonight as well, but I wanted to reiterate what Coleman said, this focus is on the structure and what Corby is trying to do with the structure to enhance, mitigate any sort of concern.

[1:17:07] concerns and be a good neighbor and a good steward to this community.

[1:17:10] I mean, we drove by the school itself and took a picture out front.

[1:17:14] And there's a grease exhaust and we don't have, we didn't know, to send this, but

[1:17:18] they have a grease exhaust fan right on the ground level with the school in the yard and

[1:17:23] question and below the school, the first floor of the school.

[1:17:28] I don't know what they cook, but whatever exhaust comes out of there is probably not mitigated like what Corby's doing.

[1:17:34] And it probably has some sort of harmful carcinogen substance in the air.

[1:17:39] I would venture to guess the middle school does as well have a similar exhaust structure that probably don't have a mitigation system, which Corby is proposing.

[1:17:48] All that being said, there's stuff that the car congestion out front has carcinogens that come out when the people drop off their kids in the school every day.

[1:17:57] Okay, this is Corby what he's proposing is mitigating any sort of concern they might be.

[1:18:03] He's being a good neighbor more so than any other restaurant that has these same sort of structures outside their facilities to mitigate the smoke.

[1:18:12] Again, this is a structure, he's allowed by right to do it, no different.

[1:18:17] And I don't think from an indoor or outdoor, I mean people have smokers in their back yards all the time, I don't think there's any prohibition against that.

[1:18:22] That he is mitigating that inside the structure, he's making it a better system, he's being a better neighbor, a better steward of the community, and we appreciate your time and consideration of this structure, and I think he's done more than enough to meet with these, we don't need to push this off any longer, he's met with them, they're not going to change their minds, they said no, no, no, Corby listen, he's looking into extending the smokestack, he's looking into mitigating his hours, but he can't guarantee his hours.

[1:18:51] First, you don't know when things come up, weddings come up, school fundraisers come up,

[1:18:55] you have to go smoke.

[1:18:56] So, it's hard to put that in writing, but he's looking at things to be a good neighbor

[1:19:01] going forward.

[1:19:01] So, I think you should, again, consider all these things when you're considering the structure.

[1:19:06] Thank you for your time.

[1:19:07] Thank you.

[1:19:11] Anybody else?

[1:19:15] Yes.

[1:19:17] All right.

[1:19:17] Thank you for letting me speak, Mayor and Council.

[1:19:21] This is the first time I have spoken.

[1:19:23] I am.

[1:19:24] How about name and address?

[1:19:25] Julie and Bar-Saudi, I live at 4532 Westway.

[1:19:30] I also own a home at 3206 Drexel Drive, very close to the area.

[1:19:36] Went to Armstrong, McCullough Middle School, Highland Park High School.

[1:19:40] College, then my dream always has been to come back to this community that's nurtured me in open businesses.

[1:19:48] I did that 17 years ago when I opened Nona.

[1:19:51] And then I subsequently have three more businesses that are in Highland Park, Fachini.

[1:20:00] Any bar Saudis in taboo? What I would say is I just wanted to dispel, I think, projections and fear from actual examples and facts. First, the fact being, I'm, the fact being that this is allowed by law. And there's no difference between an enclosed structure that we're building and if it was inside of a restaurant.

[1:20:25] We're additionally have a veneer hood and the smoke, the smoke sapper which isn't required by local law.

[1:20:34] Here's what I would say as an example, I think it's a very relevant one.

[1:20:38] I opened known as 17 years ago with the idea of the focus of the restaurant being a wood burning oven.

[1:20:45] At that point in Highland Park, there was no ordinance for a hood.

[1:20:50] They allowed us to do it and were grandfathered in just as a fireplace that burns almost every single day of the year.

[1:20:58] If you guys know where Nona is, there is an alleyway directly across from us 10 feet away from many residences.

[1:21:06] Many residences, in 17 and a half years, we've never had a complaint from anyone in that dense area in terms of smoke or

[1:21:16] of pollution. In addition to that, at Fuccini, we also have a wood burning oven.

[1:21:22] Bradfield is directly across the street. Again, no one, no other, and they get complaints

[1:21:30] over there all the time about everything. Never once have had a complaint about us burning wood there.

[1:21:37] We burn it 365 days a year, other than I guess Christmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving.

[1:21:43] And also at Barsadis, we have a solid fuel grill and, again, zero complaints in 15 years of business.

[1:21:55] I would say this is kind of much to do about nothing.

[1:21:58] I'm willing to compromise with these people really, really what we want to do is serve this community.

[1:22:05] Like, that hotel could have a generic restaurant that nobody cares about.

[1:22:11] Corby and I really, like, when we got inspired for this and got hired to do this project,

[1:22:19] it was we thought community first. We want to create something that our community that we love

[1:22:27] can go to and enjoy, and I'll tell you about this business. It's a hard business.

[1:22:32] And everyone keeps saying you can smoke off site. The things that matter are doing things that are

[1:22:38] great in the our ability to make great food is greatly contingent on having that smoker

[1:22:44] on site and making the best food we possibly can.

[1:22:48] Thank you.

[1:22:52] Anybody else?

[1:22:58] I'm going to be real with you, Mayor.

[1:23:00] I came here for something else, but I see all y'all talking about smoking, and I like

[1:23:03] to smoke.

[1:23:03] You know what I mean?

[1:23:04] I like to just roll up and smoke.

[1:23:06] So I say they should be smoking, but if I was being for real, why don't we have no KFC?

[1:23:11] Why don't you all prove a KFC up in here?

[1:23:12] Because I like fried chicken.

[1:23:13] And I mean, I don't need a lot of smoke stuff, unless it's a barbecue pork ribs.

[1:23:18] So shoot, I say let them smoke, because I smoke, and I'm pro 420.

[1:23:22] As a black man, I've been smoking my whole life, and I'm a y'all white people get smoked too.

[1:23:27] You know, it's not, I'm not racist when it comes to smoking, so I wish it was a KFC, but amen, let's smoke.

[1:23:41] Okay,

[1:23:45] so we have, I want to speak, Robbie,

[1:23:50] any motion?

[1:23:56] Where are you going to, I'm sorry, where are you going to say something?

[1:23:59] Mayor, I'll make a motion for 25-293 for the ordinance of the Smoker's Structiles

[1:24:06] for the Law of Sharrows Restaurant, make a motion to approve it.

[1:24:11] Second.

[1:24:12] Motion in a second.

[1:24:14] But it's a remin.

[1:24:15] Aye.

[1:24:15] Peel, fill me.

[1:24:16] Aye.

[1:24:18] Mark Gordon.

[1:24:19] Aye.

[1:24:19] Bob Morris.

[1:24:20] Aye.

[1:24:21] The Mayor will tell you it passes.

[1:24:25] Next item, Robby.

[1:24:26] All right, Mayor and Council, your next item on your main agenda this evening is to consider an ordinance that would revise the time limits of the 3200 block of Milton, the residential parking district in this area.

[1:24:38] Keegan literal has more information on this item for you.

[1:24:41] Thank you, Mr. Quarter. Good evening, Mayor and Council.

[1:24:43] there

[1:24:54] about that. Currently the 3200 block of Milton

[1:25:00] Well, Navinou is restricted for the parking district Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. We received a request from one of the residents asking if this could be switched to 24-7 for this 3200 block. We mailed out 20 surveys because there's 20 residents on this block. We received 17 back, 14 of which voted in favor of switching it to 24-7 and three were opposed.

[1:25:28] It is my understanding that one of the residents that voted oppose would like to speak this evening.

[1:25:36] I just wanted to let you know that just an overall picture of the area, everything highlighted in green here and the purple is the Milton Parking District or the M District.

[1:25:46] Everything with the green lines is the 8 AM to 5 PM Monday through Friday.

[1:25:50] The red again is what I showed you on the previous slide,

[1:25:56] and that's all the information I have.

[1:25:58] I'm happy to answer any questions, or if the resident would like to speak?

[1:26:02] Any questions?

[1:26:04] I have a question.

[1:26:05] So originally, can you tell us, how did this come about?

[1:26:09] Why was it a resident who said, I'd like 24-7?

[1:26:14] Yeah, one of the residents that spoke with Miss LaDotte or a system public works director,

[1:26:20] had requested this because on the weekends, there can be an influx of cars,

[1:26:25] whether for sporting events or people just coming to visit the town and they're having a lot of hard time parking in front of their own house

[1:26:33] So that's why they were asking for it be in 24-7-7 days a week. Okay, and we have not heard that from the others

[1:26:40] This is the only one that they're approached us. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

[1:26:46] Okay. Thank you

[1:26:49] Okay, rice

[1:26:56] Good evening. I'm Anna K. Rice. I live at 32-13 Milton Avenue and my husband Jim and I have lived here for over two years

[1:27:03] I'm a graduate of the City of University Park Leadership Program and I serve on an advisory

[1:27:08] committee.

[1:27:09] I respectfully urge you, the council, not to adopt this ordinance.

[1:27:13] Our streets are part of a shared community and city infrastructure maintained by all of

[1:27:18] our tax dollars, not just the residents of any one single block.

[1:27:22] Every home on this block has driveways, garages, and or alley access accommodating two or more

[1:27:28] vehicles.

[1:27:28] If one block receives 24 by 7 permits, then any other block could request the same.

[1:27:34] That fundamentally changes how the City of University Park manages public streets and

[1:27:39] can significantly increase resources, human and financial.

[1:27:43] If I host each of you for dinner, I need to now get a permit for each of your cars.

[1:27:49] I would be required to request them from the city in advance, wait for them to be processed and

[1:27:53] and have them delivered by city employees before guests can park on public street.

[1:27:58] This uses city personnel time, printing, processing, and delivery resources typically delivered by police officers and my student what I've seen.

[1:28:08] I also work from home 24, I also work from home five days a week, so I've seen and I look out front and I can see what is happening.

[1:28:16] While the fiscal impact states no impact, there is an opportunity cost.

[1:28:20] Is this really the highest and best universe?

[1:28:23] Is this really the highest and best use of our city's personnel?

[1:28:27] I don't think so.

[1:28:28] City data I worked with Mr. Corridor on states that since the New Permit Zone was enacted in September of 2025,

[1:28:34] 16 citations were issued in September.

[1:28:37] Only seven citations were issued between October, November, and December, okay?

[1:28:44] That's just over two a month.

[1:28:45] There are zero instances of first responders being blocked by vehicles in the same time period.

[1:28:51] In 2026, there are seven SMU home games on Saturdays when street parking sometimes, not all the time, tightens.

[1:28:59] That's 1.9% predictable days of the year, a very tiny amount.

[1:29:04] A group of residents sentiment does not match the data.

[1:29:08] The data demonstrates there is not a material need to create a full time permit zone.

[1:29:11] The City of University Park is not a gated community.

[1:29:16] We own the land but we don't own the streets personally.

[1:29:20] We are a city and the city streets are not intended, excuse me, to serve the public equally

[1:29:24] and at large.

[1:29:25] Thank you.

[1:29:27] Any questions for me?

[1:29:29] Okay.

[1:29:30] Thank you very much for your service.

[1:29:31] Thank you.

[1:29:32] Do

[1:29:37] you have any other places that it's like this, so it's 24-7?

[1:29:43] Not that are singled out of an overall district, not just one street that I'm familiar with.

[1:29:51] There are other parking districts that are 24-7 I'm familiar with, but not just one street out of a larger district.

[1:29:57] You're going to be able to do it.

[1:30:02] And go through the numbers again. What were the there was 20 properties on that street 14 voted in favor three opposed. For us, when somebody approaches us, we tell them that they need to have a majority in favor against for us to be bring afforded for your consideration. So with the, we told them that they would probably need at least 14, 15 before we'd even consider bringing it to your attention.

[1:30:31] and staff doesn't have a recommendation

[1:30:34] whether you approve it or not.

[1:30:36] I just, because of the results we got from the survey,

[1:30:39] we felt that you needed to hear it.

[1:30:49] I do share the concern about it being a public street,

[1:30:53] and the area around it being,

[1:30:57] it's just Monday through Friday, right?

[1:30:59] And from what's the times?

[1:31:02] ADM to 5 PM.

[1:31:03] Okay, so Monday through Friday, eight to five,

[1:31:08] I mean, regardless of holidays or anything else, right?

[1:31:11] It's just Monday through Friday, eight to five.

[1:31:13] Okay, thank you.

[1:31:14] Would

[1:31:22] you be willing to let us do a trial basis and see how it works?

[1:31:33] I mean, I can't speak on behalf of the six that have either chosen not to respond or have chosen to oppose this ordinance.

[1:31:47] What I would say, I know this is a public forum and I very respect every each and every resident that we live with on our street.

[1:31:54] These are city streets, we have family members that come over, we have, I mean, that live in town, we have, you know, play dates, young children on our street, high schoolers on our street, that are very respected, we're not allowed street, we've worked really hard with the people behind us, with the alleyways.

[1:32:15] We've worked with each other, we're neighborly, we drop off gifts in the fall and in the winter holiday.

[1:32:22] This is a sentiment that does not, is not supported by the data.

[1:32:27] So I brought forward data that I worked with Mr. Corridor about the citations, seven,

[1:32:33] between October and December after the first month of 17, I believe, in September.

[1:32:39] In the predictable days with the SMU College Football Games, I go to those games.

[1:32:45] I promise you, not every one of those games is on our black, super full.

[1:32:51] Some individuals choose to put cones in front of their house on game day, so they have parking.

[1:32:57] What I would also offer is that like I mentioned earlier, each and every house has driveways or alleyway access that holds more than held two plus cars.

[1:33:07] with that, it is residents' choice, and they're right to park either in their driveway

[1:33:15] and, you know, in front of their street, but this is a set of precedent that if this block

[1:33:23] is approved, it could go to any and all blocks, and the financial impact at scale is just

[1:33:30] not the heart of what a city is.

[1:33:31] We're community members, we're neighbors, we're not an exclusive street.

[1:33:38] None of our street are exclusive to be able to say you can't park there without a permit, even though you're a city resident.

[1:33:45] I want to invite all of you for dinner without bothering the resources of the city and

[1:33:52] be a good neighbor.

[1:33:53] What about Keegan?

[1:33:55] What's, this is both sides of the street right now, right?

[1:34:00] What about doing just one side of the street and the other side, can we enforce that?

[1:34:10] I don't want to speak for the police chief but I can see that being a enforcement issue.

[1:34:15] It's also a sentiment, right, it's like it's who are we?

[1:34:19] Are we a community of people that want to be together and

[1:34:24] neighborly or are we trying to say that each of our streets is only for us?

[1:34:30] I'd love to have you all over for dinner and not get a permit.

[1:34:33] My permits are always delivered by our great police officers.

[1:34:36] I'm always grateful that they do it.

[1:34:38] I don't think it's the highest and best use of their time.

[1:34:45] Yeah, but there are a number of other people on that block that would like it.

[1:34:49] So we're trying to figure out some way to make it, make me, like I said,

[1:34:53] I don't think the sentiment doesn't support the data.

[1:34:57] The sentiment is they don't want people.

[1:35:00] The people that my understanding is, the people that are opposed to having, or people that want to have this ordinance, they don't want people parking in front of their house. I don't own the city street. Who am I to say who can park in front of my house and who can't be? None of us should be able to say that on a city street. All right, what if we don't change it when we leave it 5 to 75? 8 to 5 on day through Friday. Yeah. And I would take continue to get the data that I've worked with Mr. Quarteron and can revisit it.

[1:35:29] in six to 12 months and continue to monitor the situation.

[1:35:34] I do something there's enough data to support it.

[1:35:38] It's only been four months in a significant decrease between September from 17 to 7 between

[1:35:44] October and December.

[1:35:46] I respectfully request that you don't approve this sentiment ordinance.

[1:35:54] I also ask how would you feel this was in front of your house?

[1:35:56] I don't know.

[1:35:57] Okay.

[1:35:58] So this is coming, right?

[1:35:59] Let's say your neighbor says, hey, I want this.

[1:36:02] They go block to block and they get the sentiment that, hey, I don't want other people parking in front of my house.

[1:36:07] And this now sets the precedent that this can happen in front of any of your houses.

[1:36:11] It's not just my block, it's the community.

[1:36:14] That's when you put it at scale, that's when the financial impact does come into play.

[1:36:18] The resources, financially and human.

[1:36:21] Well,

[1:36:27] then I'd like to make a motion to deny 25-285 for revising the time limits on 32-hundred

[1:36:37] block of Milton.

[1:36:38] Second.

[1:36:40] The motion is second.

[1:36:42] Melissa Raymond.

[1:36:43] Am I eyeing to deny?

[1:36:47] I.

[1:36:49] You'll feel it?

[1:36:50] I.

[1:36:51] My glory to you.

[1:36:51] I.

[1:36:52] My glory to you.

[1:36:53] My glory to you.

[1:36:57] We'll be over to dinner at what time?

[1:37:01] What are we having?

[1:37:09] Turn down.

[1:37:10] It's not going to happen, Grace.

[1:37:11] Don't nod.

[1:37:13] Thank you for taking time.

[1:37:14] All right, Mayor and Councilor, your next item to see me is going to be a proposed resolution

[1:37:20] regarding the use of public right of way in the Snyder and around Snyder Plaza.

[1:37:26] We've talked about a number of these items.

[1:37:28] Shannon Smith's Bratish has a presentation for you on this.

[1:37:31] Thank you, Mr. Court.

[1:37:32] City Council, this is not in the streets, this is on the sidewalk.

[1:37:35] So, as we all know, Senator Pleasant, handsmen's wrapped up in December of 2025.

[1:37:42] And as a component of that, City staff really started in the last summer talking through what are some policies now that we've made this investment in our infrastructure that we can use to make sure that we've got maintaining that investment, but also we have a consistent support.

[1:38:00] And tonight I have before you a consideration of a license agreement that would regulate sidewalk

[1:38:07] usage for those businesses.

[1:38:12] This is really bad accessibility and ensuring that we have the ability to get people through

[1:38:19] a signer plaza to see our businesses.

[1:38:21] Americans with Disabilities Act, I'm sure you're all familiar with, really regulates on

[1:38:26] a federal level access.

[1:38:28] And if you'll see there the diagram, it does mean require a 4-foot or 48-inch minimum width on sidewalk access.

[1:38:37] The diagram on the right really shows something we're talking about.

[1:38:41] You'll see there the pedestrian zone which we want to maintain.

[1:38:44] The frontage zone is really where we're going to focus tonight that would allow businesses to use that area

[1:38:49] but still maintain that accessible pedestrian zone area.

[1:38:53] So tonight I'm really going to talk about three different opportunities, and then I'm really

[1:38:58] going to focus in on your action tonight regarding a resolution that would approve a license

[1:39:03] agreement, which is the second opportunity there.

[1:39:06] This is a diagram from the Zoning for Schneider Plaza, this PD, showed the dimensions, this

[1:39:13] was always the plan, that in particular you'll see the area that says seating tables and

[1:39:18] the 4 feet and that's really where we're wanting businesses to look at as an opportunity

[1:39:25] if they want to and maintaining that 6 foot walking area with insider plaza.

[1:39:31] This is just another diagram that shows kind of just what the goal was is having that

[1:39:36] sidewalk usage.

[1:39:37] It's so important in cider plaza.

[1:39:41] So what is currently allowed, and this is through our zoning in that area, is in that

[1:39:48] 4-foot area that's immediately in front of the businesses.

[1:39:52] Those businesses can put sidewalk board signage that relates to their business planters,

[1:39:59] benches or any.

[1:40:00] We need to type a seasonal displays. That area still allows accessibility in the sidewalk and is included in our current zoning ordinance. I will say staff is really identified, though, within that zoning ordinance, there's some areas we have some inconsistencies that now that we've completed construction, we're going to be talking with businesses about. The photo on the left shows a local restaurant that has actually planters on both sides. They have it in front of their businesses.

[1:40:29] which is the allowable area, but you'll also see the planter on the edge of the photo that is by the parking that creates more impediment.

[1:40:39] You can also see that the chairs really don't allow for the accessible area.

[1:40:44] And so we would work with that business to understand what that forfeit area is for their business as well as the six foot.

[1:40:52] The sidewalk sign would be allowed if it was directly advertising that business, but in this case,

[1:40:59] This sidewalk sign is located in front of another business, and so really we would ask that owner to locate that signage in front of their business directly.

[1:41:11] The item we have tonight is the actual license agreement, really that is focused on having tables and chairs on our sidewalk, but that they don't impede the accessible area.

[1:41:22] We would ask that those businesses create an annual license agreement, so we understand how they're going to have their tables and chairs, what their responsibilities for maintaining it.

[1:41:33] If they have that license agreement, it would then come through to the city staff as well as the city attorney for their review.

[1:41:40] We would then ask for a nominal fee of about $25 for that license agreement.

[1:41:45] I can tell you that our current other license agreements we have out is 250.

[1:41:50] So this is a discount, but just it provides that kind of commitment on the business perspective.

[1:41:55] The enforcement piece of that would be from code enforcement ensuring that they're in compliance with their license agreement.

[1:42:03] We have some photos here that we took this summer of just some areas that we knew we needed to work with businesses on.

[1:42:09] And you'll see that the business on the left has seating both kind of in front of their

[1:42:15] business as well as on the other side as well as planters.

[1:42:19] They also have umbrellas and umbrellas create an accessibility challenge too.

[1:42:24] So we would ask that business that they want to have outdoor seating just to maintain it within

[1:42:28] the four feet directly in front of their business.

[1:42:31] The picture on the right is similar and the interesting thing is that this is at night when

[1:42:36] the business is closed.

[1:42:37] so we really want to make sure that if they have outdoor seating that they're doing a good job

[1:42:42] maintaining that within their license agreement. And then the third opportunity really now that we

[1:42:49] have wonderful sidewalks, we have landscaping in Snyder Plaza, we want that to be enjoyed. We want

[1:42:57] businesses to know that if they are interested in doing a special event permit, that is a kind of

[1:43:04] one time event that allows them to share with the community,

[1:43:08] either their food, their whatever product they have,

[1:43:11] entertainment, that opportunity is there.

[1:43:14] They would just have to go through a permit process.

[1:43:16] We do this in many cases as well.

[1:43:19] It would come to you if they're gonna have more than 200 people

[1:43:22] just so that we have a safe event.

[1:43:25] And we can show photos from a special event permit

[1:43:28] that happened in 2024 in Snyder Plaza.

[1:43:30] You can see there were people that had their product

[1:43:34] which is typically not allowed, but just to let people know there are that opportunities to use that sidewalk.

[1:43:42] So really tonight is a resolution that would consider the license agreement for tables and chairs outside of Senator Plaza.

[1:43:50] If it's approved, we really would start this week working through a communication strategy.

[1:43:55] We want to make sure all of Senator Plaza merchants know about this.

[1:43:59] We would specifically reach out to those businesses that would need a license agreement, make sure they're aware of this, and then we would work through it.

[1:44:08] We're proposing an effective date of February 1st, so there's some time for businesses to get this into consideration.

[1:44:16] Before we started this, we thought January, we're not going to have a lot of outdoor dining, but of course today is a lovely day.

[1:44:21] So, but we we're going to work with businesses that are currently using that

[1:44:27] sidewalk just to make sure everyone knows what the regulations are and going

[1:44:32] forward. It's a smooth transition, but I'd be glad to answer any questions you

[1:44:35] may have. I have a question just about the four feet, right? Yes. The requirement is

[1:44:40] that there is four feet and I'll you know on the sidewalk, right? In order to pass

[1:44:45] by. Correct. And then we in addition to that have the four feet from the façade

[1:44:51] out of the building out that they can put something.

[1:44:55] That is correct, and I will say this, and Katie can help me too.

[1:45:00] The accessible area is a minimum of four feet. I believe it's five feet actually is desired, but four feet is the minimum. Okay. And currently they're not allowed to have anything on the parking curb side. That is correct. Okay. That is correct. Thank you for clarifying. Yes, absolutely.

[1:45:21] Mayor, I move approval of 25297, a resolution approving a license agreement form for use of the public sidewalk in our new beautiful Snyder Plaza. I'll second it.

[1:45:33] No, it's in a second.

[1:45:34] I'll listen to you.

[1:45:35] Hi.

[1:45:35] Bill Filman.

[1:45:36] Hi.

[1:45:36] We're calling.

[1:45:37] Hi.

[1:45:37] I remember what time it passes.

[1:45:39] Thank you.

[1:45:41] Next item, Robby.

[1:45:42] All right.

[1:45:43] Mayor and Councillor, your next item is going to be a proposed ordinance, which will designate one

[1:45:47] way streets on the Year's Schneider Plaza.

[1:45:50] A related item that you're going to talk about next is also related to loading and unloading

[1:45:54] zones.

[1:45:54] So just know that those two are kind of combined with their separate items.

[1:45:58] Yes.

[1:45:58] Thank you, Mr. Quarter.

[1:45:59] Good evening, Mayor and Council.

[1:46:00] As Mr. Carter said, I'm actually bringing two items in the same presentation to you but we'll call for separate motions at the end as well.

[1:46:12] You'll recall back in November, our November 18 meeting, we brought to you after some significant displays of damage to Snyder Plaza's

[1:46:24] the ability to limit the heavy truck activities throughout Snyder Plaza.

[1:46:30] That's the area shown here in red as to limit the number of vehicles, excuse me,

[1:46:36] the number of axles on the vehicle as well as the weight restrictions.

[1:46:39] With that, is the area in areas in green where we are encouraging those heavy trucks

[1:46:45] and activity to happen.

[1:46:47] The signs are up now, it's being enforced, that's working quite nicely.

[1:46:51] But in addition to that, we needed to bring forward some regulations regarding deliveries as far as locations and timeframes for those, and we have another separate ordinance to consider one way alleys.

[1:47:06] Back when we first started this discovery part of this, Amanda Hartwick went and did some research regarding what other cities are doing that have retail areas and other shopping areas as well.

[1:47:18] you can see them here. If they do regulate deliveries, if there's a specific location

[1:47:23] in time, if there's a wait limit for trucks that are coming in and around your area, we've

[1:47:28] already talked about the wait limits. Today's is specifically about a location and timeframes

[1:47:33] for deliveries. And we took that information and brought, through a work session to you,

[1:47:40] the possibility of having delivery zones in the alleys specifically. This was from October

[1:47:46] So we're of 2025.

[1:47:48] We actually proposed these areas on both alleys.

[1:47:51] You can see the Snyder Plaza and Hersey alleys that I'll talk about as the West alle north is up.

[1:47:57] And the East alle is Hillcrest to Snyder Plaza.

[1:47:59] We were proposing these for both alleys, despite the fact that the eastern half of the plaza is all commercial.

[1:48:06] This is an exclusively commercial alle.

[1:48:09] The alle on the West side has residents on, this is all residential on the West side of the alle.

[1:48:15] and then of course the commercial that's fronting Snyder Plaza.

[1:48:19] We also took both of these, took this particular piece and some recommendations to the Commercial

[1:48:24] Retail Advisory Committee and the Public Works Advisory Committee for separate recommendations

[1:48:29] to bring forward to you to consider this additionally.

[1:48:32] Commercial Retail Advisory Committee was in favor of this recommendation, supportive of delivery

[1:48:38] locations as well as restricting the hours where they would, when they would take place.

[1:48:42] I encourage us to have lots of sign-eds required in the alleys to indicate those locations and really to have a strong communication strategy with the businesses to support them and related to how that would work.

[1:48:57] The Public Works Advisory Committee basically said the same thing, but they were questioning the need for a regulation in that East alleys, there's not residences there.

[1:49:08] So questioning whether we needed to even have this one here or not as a zone because there's the primary issue here is

[1:49:15] Residences that the only the residents can only access their property from the alley and it completely if there's a truck parked here it completely blocks them.

[1:49:22] So it is much more of a need on the west side of the alley than west side of center plaza than the east alley of center plaza.

[1:49:32] PUAC also recommended making these two alleys one way, basically a couplet, so a couplet meaning that one alley is one way, one direction in this case north, and the other is one way back south the other direction.

[1:49:48] This mirrors how the sanitation trucks actually already operate.

[1:49:52] They move through the eastern alley from south to north, and then they come back on the residential side from north to south.

[1:49:58] So with

[1:50:00] We are bringing both of those to you today. We additionally, from a delivery perspective, we put out a survey in November to the community at large. We received 52 responses. You can see here the makeup of those university park residents, some business owners, some property owners, sometimes those overlap. And we specifically were seeking some information related to if they're support of delivery zones.

[1:50:26] You can see here about over 70% were either in support or a strongly supportive of having zones.

[1:50:34] We showed them the map that we had it from October 2025.

[1:50:39] Those areas in red, if they would be supportive of that.

[1:50:42] You can see there were some strongly opposed.

[1:50:43] They left some comments.

[1:50:44] It was more related to how their specific business may not have a rear entry.

[1:50:50] So how's that going to work?

[1:50:51] Those kinds of things.

[1:50:53] Additionally, we had a question related to when would be a disruptive time for those deliveries

[1:50:59] to take place, and the overwhelming majority of that was the middle of the day, lunchtime

[1:51:04] hours midday.

[1:51:05] You will see at the end at the bottom here that there were several responses that delivered

[1:51:11] should be allowed at any time, that it's not we shouldn't regulate this in the first place.

[1:51:17] We also ask the question about best times for deliveries, and you can see these top two

[1:51:23] there, either early morning or late at night, which goes hand in hand with the most restrictive

[1:51:30] time is in the middle of the day, which makes sense, that's when the most traffic is around.

[1:51:35] There's also, there were a little over 17.5% that were not supportive of any designated time

[1:51:41] for this to occur.

[1:51:42] So, staff brought forward to be able to bring an ordinance to you today, the recommendation that we took the recommendation from Public Works Advisory Committee to not designate delivery zones in the eastern alley and we were bringing forward the opportunity to have prohibit deliveries between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. in response to the survey responses that we got.

[1:52:08] However, in writing, this ordinance and working with UPPD, it became very apparent that it was easier for us to designate where they can't be in the alleys as opposed to where they can be just to eliminate some questions about, well, if you're designating a delivery zone here, does that mean that these alleys don't have one so they all have to come over here?

[1:52:28] It just made better sense to make those be a prohibitive location, so this is effectively

[1:52:34] the negative image, the mere image of the map that I showed you before.

[1:52:40] We were proposing a delivery zone here, we are now proposing that there's no loading

[1:52:44] and unloading in these locations, which is immediately adjacent to the parts of the block

[1:52:50] that where residents have their access.

[1:52:54] And in addition, the one-way alleys, I'm going to talk about that one next.

[1:52:57] So this is what we're proposing to use the, to mirror what sanitation already does and

[1:53:03] have the eastern alley from the one-way northbound from Daniel up to Rankin, the 66 through 6,800 blocks.

[1:53:11] And to the western alley from lovers land to Daniel, so the 7,000 block down to the 6,600 block to be one-way southbound.

[1:53:19] that this would not impact the T alleys that are between Rankin and Milton and also Milton and Rosedale.

[1:53:30] Like I said, here's the blocks themselves and the designation that is in the ordinance before you.

[1:53:36] The main benefit of this is being able to not have trucks in direct opposition.

[1:53:41] We're really encouraging heavy trucks to, not just heavy trucks, deliveries to happen in the alleys

[1:53:47] and to be able to facilitate the movement of trucks in one direction that really enhances

[1:53:53] the mobility through that area.

[1:53:56] From the delivery ordinances, perspective, having no loading and unloading zones in the

[1:54:02] alley west of Snyder Plaza, this would in the 6600 block, that is the north section of the

[1:54:08] alley from 6600 to 6600 to 6600 to 6600, the addresses are specific to Snyder Plaza just

[1:54:14] so that there is a tie to dress, but it affects the whole alley.

[1:54:17] It's not just for one side or the other, but that's just how the ordinance is written.

[1:54:22] In the 6,700 block and the 6,800 block, they're on the south end of that T alley from 6,701 up to the 6,717 and then 6,801 to 6,817.

[1:54:35] Additionally, we are proposing to prohibit deliveries in the whole plaza of whether you are delivering in the alley or you are not delivering in the alley.

[1:54:43] to restrict those deliveries to not happen between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m.

[1:54:48] Regardless of the truck size, regardless of whether you are allowed to be in the plaza or not, just to help facilitate

[1:54:54] the ability for the businesses to do business and help encourage patrons to be there.

[1:55:00] And the one-way traffic I already talked about that. So the item before you tonight, there's two items. One is to consider an ordinance establishing no loading and unloading zones in the alley west of Snyder Plaza adjacent to residences and proposing the delivery restrictions between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. in Snyder Plaza. It's also to consider an ordinance designated one-way alleys in Snyder Plaza as shown on the slide previously. This would take effect on

[1:55:30] February 1st, very much like the sidewalk license agreement ordinance.

[1:55:33] That would allow Pagerty and her communication team to really work with the businesses and get that information pulled together.

[1:55:41] We've already been working with Sun West Communication, the consultant that's been helping with some of our communications throughout this project to work with us on a communication strategy, information flyers for delivery trucks, for drivers so that they know and then really start the signage and enforcement.

[1:55:59] The one way alleys, the signage would be one way signs, it would be do not enter signs if you're coming the wrong direction very similar to how we have on a city street and painting arrows in the direction of travel that we're asking everyone to take.

[1:56:14] Additionally, we have worked with public works to to stripe off the sections of the alley that are for that are designated for cars to travel.

[1:56:22] So that there are some locations on, behind some of the businesses where they do have some parking area on private property, but we really want them to not overhang that yellow striped area so that trucks can actually get through the alleys and we'd be really encouraging and communicating that piece of that as well that if don't overhang you're impeding the roadway you will be ticketed those kinds of things.

[1:56:46] So lastly, we are proposing to have these in place for nine months or so and revisit this item with you in the fall of 26.

[1:56:57] That gives us a whole SMU semester through the spring semester and then to see how this is working if we need to expand it, if we need to contract it, if we need to make changes to that.

[1:57:08] And that also gets us through the summer of which all really has its own traffic pattern in Snyder Plaza when school is not in session.

[1:57:15] and we can make any refinements as needed, so with that I recommend passing these ordinances and I'm happy to take any questions and have discussion.

[1:57:28] Thank you.

[1:57:30] Ms. Barron, on behalf of the entire city, I would like to thank you and your team for everything you've done in Snyder Plaza.

[1:57:36] Thank you.

[1:57:36] That looks very nice.

[1:57:38] Here.

[1:57:38] Thank you.

[1:57:41] I think it looks lovely too.

[1:57:43] Mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve item two.

[1:57:46] We do that, I've got a couple of people who want to speak, I'm sorry, 3-0-2.

[1:57:53] David, you didn't say you're going to speak for against all that you've come up done.

[1:58:00] I'm David or JB, and I'm a property owner at 66-19 Snyder Plaza.

[1:58:04] And I believe I'm still the chairman of the Snyder Plaza parking task force going into my third year of that.

[1:58:13] I have a couple of things I want to say, but I want to ask Katie a question.

[1:58:17] The no-parking, the no-delivery zones are those no-delivery zones all the time?

[1:58:22] Yes, sir.

[1:58:23] So it looks to me if you put that back up there.

[1:58:30] The blocks, especially the 6600 block, that no delivery zone, it looks like it's, and

[1:58:37] with the addresses you gave, it's behind three restaurants.

[1:58:42] which is, to me, is going to make it difficult for those businesses because they generally, as a property owner, I witness this,

[1:58:53] their trucks are generally trucks that were not going to allow in the interior of the plaza anymore.

[1:59:00] So if we've made those no delivery zones, I'm wondering where those trucks are going to go to deliver food to half shells and manditos and cubies.

[1:59:09] Coobies a little bit different because they have their thing, but we're prohibiting those big trucks and we're also doing the 11 to 2, which I think is great, but I think we got to consider some of those businesses that require big delivery trucks as opposed to smaller ones that could get into the plaza.

[1:59:29] So, is it kubis at the bottom and then banditas and half shells are all not in the, no unloading zone?

[1:59:37] Or am I just off on mine?

[1:59:38] No, you're correct, this is where, you can see the blue umbrella, this is actually half shells and banditas are right here and then kubis.

[1:59:46] But-

[1:59:46] Okay, I guess on this, the address is on there.

[1:59:49] No, no, no, that's fine, so-

[1:59:50] That's probably my-

[1:59:51] So the idea being they aside from cubies and maybe

[2:00:00] There are a couple of us. None of these restaurants have a place for you to back up and actually back in a truck into, right? So they all have to pull up and stop and unload all their stuff. So what we're proposing is that instead of doing it right here, where you're blocking access to those driveways, they're just pulling up right here and bugging their load back over to, and same for not just food, but for linens, Penny Pomodoro when they get their fire load, their firewood load. They just don't stop here.

[2:00:29] here, you can pull up a little bit further and not block access to the right.

[2:00:33] Well, then that's for my question.

[2:00:34] So what I was, I'd come up here to say is these are two things that we talked about when we first started the parking task force to try to figure out how to make those things easier as far as deliveries and times.

[2:00:47] And so clearly Katie and her group have done a really good job working that out.

[2:00:52] My view is, as the property owner is also the head of the parking committee.

[2:00:58] I'm completely in favor with everything that's on here.

[2:01:02] I think the one-way alleys are going to make a big difference because you're not going to have what I see all the time, which is a bunch of, and then the people that live there can get out.

[2:01:12] So, thank you.

[2:01:13] Thank you.

[2:01:14] Thank you, David.

[2:01:17] Bill Lang-Henry?

[2:01:19] On his way up.

[2:01:23] He's not here.

[2:01:29] Bill Lang-Henry here?

[2:01:31] No.

[2:01:31] Not here.

[2:01:36] He wrote in and said, I object to the concept of one way alleys as it would present an undue burden for employees and customers trying to get to their parking space behind our buildings,

[2:01:47] probably said, okay,

[2:01:53] we got to need a motion on 25302 possible.

[2:01:59] I had one thing that we discussed in one more thing before you ask for that motion, Mayor.

[2:02:05] One thing that we did discuss was the potential of expanding this Northern section up to the edge of this building, which is not the original address, so making that, let me get to the addresses.

[2:02:18] So it would be 68-23, as opposed to 68-17, that would take it through the alley.

[2:02:27] And we discussed that in the work session as a potential for y'all to also consider.

[2:02:31] Can you go back to the map?

[2:02:32] Yes, sir.

[2:02:34] Those T alleys?

[2:02:36] Yes, sir.

[2:02:36] I don't think we should have a truck blocking the T alle.

[2:02:40] So I actually talked about that with PD.

[2:02:42] They can't do that right now anyway, as far as vehicular movement, because it's effective.

[2:02:52] So we weren't necessarily needing to have that be there, but you can absolutely include those addresses so that it does not.

[2:03:00] This particular case, the 6700 block, the addresses went through the T alley, it actually goes to this edge of this building right here.

[2:03:08] So the graphic just does not, it's not as representative in this scale as I would like it to be.

[2:03:15] But in this case it does not, the address for 68-17 is for the whole building, even though there's a suite right there, but we are proposing to take that up to this line right here, which would include that T Allie at 68-23.

[2:03:30] Okay.

[2:03:31] Thank you.

[2:03:33] Now I'm done.

[2:03:34] Need a motion on 25-302, one way Allie's.

[2:03:38] Mayor, I'd like to make a motion of 25-302 to consider ordinance designating one-way alleys near Snyder Plaza with the exception of that change to 68-23, Snyder Plaza Drive, is that right?

[2:03:53] That's for the second one.

[2:03:54] That would be the second one.

[2:03:55] That would be the next one.

[2:03:56] That would be the next one.

[2:03:56] That's the second one.

[2:03:57] One way, it doesn't.

[2:03:58] But yes.

[2:04:00] I'll second 25-302.

[2:04:02] I have motion to second.

[2:04:04] Melissa?

[2:04:05] Aye.

[2:04:06] Phil?

[2:04:06] Aye.

[2:04:07] Mark?

[2:04:07] Aye.

[2:04:08] Mark?

[2:04:08] I remember what time passes.

[2:04:10] Okay.

[2:04:11] Now I need a motion for a 25-303 adding 68-23.

[2:04:15] Snider Plaza to it.

[2:04:20] Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to 25-303.

[2:04:23] Establish a no-loading, unloading zone in the alley west of Snider Plaza and prohibiting deliveries

[2:04:29] from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. and near Snyder Plaza with the caveat of change of 6823 Snyder Plaza.

[2:04:40] I can get that right.

[2:04:43] I feel.

[2:04:44] All right, Mayor and council, the final item in your agenda this evening is public comments.

[2:04:56] anyone wishing to address an item that is not on the agenda to do so at this time.

[2:05:00] Please be advised that it takes up a means act, the council cannot act on item that is not on the agenda. Members of the audience, I encourage speak with staff or council following the meeting.

[2:05:20] All right.

[2:05:28] So how y'all do it? Y'all know who I be, and I come here because I saw in San Francisco, they just passed reparations. They're giving $5 million to each black citizen.

[2:05:40] And I want to say marriage to it as the only black man that lives in university part the only black Hebrew israelite so I'm Jewish as well a black Jewish man

[2:05:49] I wish you could put some on the agenda

[2:05:52] To try to get reparations here in university part because I know if you look in this room

[2:05:57] It looks like it's white power out or if you look at it if I had to guess I would think I was at a clan rally

[2:06:02] So I live here

[2:06:04] I'm one of the only black men in this kind of and I'd like to move to San Francisco, but I'm on probation

[2:06:09] So I'm just thinking like what can I do who can I talk to and I can talk to you mayor because they look the mayor of San Francisco

[2:06:16] Did it and you know what they do in San Francisco?

[2:06:19] Not good, so I'm just telling you this reparations and I'm 57 years old proof black don't crack. Thank you, mayor

[2:07:28] Thank you so much for having me. My name is Chase Woodall.

[2:07:32] I live at 2928 Fondren Drive, a lifelong resident, served on the Parks Committee, and

[2:07:38] And I just wanted a quick minute to talk about an ongoing issue that I'm sure you're

[2:07:43] all familiar with, which is the coyotes here in University Park.

[2:07:47] The reason I'm bringing it up is two weeks ago, we walked outside into our front yard

[2:07:53] to find just one of our catch-ripped pieces right out of front.

[2:07:58] And it was really unfortunate because of my 57 and eight-year-old daughters who were the

[2:08:02] ones that stumbled across them and found them and came in crying and telling me all about

[2:08:07] it and we, you know, I obviously sent them away immediately because it was really heartbreaking

[2:08:12] for them. And we went and buried the cat. It was in a vacant lot where he got, he got

[2:08:18] mulled by coyotes. And we did our best to try to keep them inside. We're trying to keep

[2:08:24] the animals away. We, you know, I've read the pamphlets that, you know, we just need to haze

[2:08:29] them that we need to coexist with the coyotes. But I feel like this is kind of a difficult

[2:08:35] task for the homeowners because I couldn't keep my cats inside. They would run out anytime

[2:08:40] the kids would open the door. And it was really, really important it would happen. But as I

[2:08:47] talked to a lot of the neighbors, I found that they were also having the same issues. Other people

[2:08:51] were getting their pets eaten and cats or even small dogs that were getting attacked. I think

[2:08:58] half the people that live in my section has said they have seen coyotes and one aspect or another

[2:09:04] during broad daylight. Sometimes they look like large dogs. They look like

[2:09:09] they're very well fed and I think the issue is that they're getting way too

[2:09:13] comfortable to even come up to your front porch. My cat was on the front porch

[2:09:18] when he got attacked and so for me I think it's kind of escalating into more of a

[2:09:24] safety issue. The pamphlet tells me that I need to go out and haze them and you know

[2:09:29] bangpots and hands and yell at them but I don't feel comfortable chasing the

[2:09:32] I don't know any of my neighbors that would do that either.

[2:09:36] So I don't know that I don't believe the co-exist really works that well.

[2:09:41] I don't think the current process that we have is eliminating the issue.

[2:09:49] I've read kind of some of the scientific stuff and kind of heard the opposition that they're

[2:09:54] only going to multiply or whatnot.

[2:09:55] But I guess my question is like how do you how do you protect the residents?

[2:10:00] So, this is from, you know, coyotes that are willing to walk up to their front porch and rip their animals into pieces, like we just had. Like, how do I, I mean, my kids keep coming to me. They say, can we get another cat? Can we get another dog? And I'm like, well, this is actually our fourth pet to die to coyotes 10 years ago. I grew up right around the corner on golf and roasted. I had two of my cats eaten in the front yard. And so the same situation happened there where the police came and they just kind of shoot the coyotes away. And that was really all that could be done.

[2:10:29] And I started doing some research and I found that all the communities around us struggle

[2:10:34] with this.

[2:10:35] Obviously this is a huge struggle in every major city, but some of them are responding

[2:10:39] differently.

[2:10:40] So there was a attack on the Katie Trail.

[2:10:44] So police officer had to shoot a coyote because he was charging people and coyotes are supposed

[2:10:48] to be safe.

[2:10:49] They're supposed to be afraid of people, but unfortunately they're too comfortable.

[2:10:54] There's lots of coyote issues with biting children in Frisco, Arlington, Lake Highlands, East Dallas, and these are all documented within the last year.

[2:11:06] And so I think that we need to look at some proactive ways to address the coyote situation.

[2:11:12] And I'm not an anti-coyote person, I don't want to go eliminate all the coyote population.

[2:11:16] I just don't want to come home and feel like I can't own animals without the fear of them getting ripish reds in the front yard and having to address the children and say I'm so sorry the tuxen haven got killed and you had to witness that.

[2:11:31] I just think it's silly. Like I think it's silly and ridiculous that that's the problem that we deal with in university park and it's been an ongoing issue.

[2:11:38] And even when I talk to the police officers, I talk to Christine, like everybody's familiar

[2:11:45] with the problem, everybody's had a run-in with it, or they've seen them.

[2:11:50] I talked to a police officer today, he said, yeah, I get calls all the time.

[2:11:54] The dispatcher says she gets a call just about every day about coyote sightings.

[2:11:58] So I think there's a point where you get past the co-exist strategy if you're seeing them

[2:12:03] during the daylight and they're mulling your animals.

[2:12:06] And so at what point do we start being proactive about the coyotes instead of reactive?

[2:12:13] Because what if it becomes a large or worse situation?

[2:12:15] What if it's a kid that gets bent like happened in Arlington, and that park to head to shut down?

[2:12:20] Or Frisco or some of these neighboring communities that have had that situation?

[2:12:24] I think God that hasn't happened here, I'm not aware of if it has, pray it doesn't happen.

[2:12:28] But I think if we're proactive in trying to reinstall some type of fear in the coyote population,

[2:12:34] and it will protect us, it will protect our pets,

[2:12:36] and it will protect our childrens.

[2:12:38] On my street, there's 22 kids.

[2:12:40] They're all on the elementary school age level.

[2:12:43] At my five year old last night,

[2:12:44] she didn't want me to leave her bedroom

[2:12:46] because she's afraid of coyotes.

[2:12:49] So I had to sit there with her

[2:12:51] and I just think it's a silly problem.

[2:12:53] We've got everything,

[2:12:54] this is probably the best community anywhere in the South.

[2:12:57] The only problem we have that I see is our wildlife,

[2:13:02] which is I think ridiculous.

[2:13:04] And I know we've got a good ecosystem for it.

[2:13:06] We've got the creeks and we got all that.

[2:13:08] But I do think there's something that can be done to kind of escalate this.

[2:13:13] I saw what DeSoto did.

[2:13:14] It was kind of controversial.

[2:13:16] But they did hire USDA wildlife services to address it.

[2:13:20] They had only five pets eaten in a short period of time.

[2:13:24] And they went and contracted them to solve their problem.

[2:13:27] And some people didn't like that.

[2:13:28] But I would say that a majority of people that I talked to would be very happy if the city

[2:13:33] work to somehow proactively address this problem.

[2:13:36] I mean, I don't think you can just come and educate the people and say, hey, you just

[2:13:40] need to hide inside, keep all your pets inside, and stop feeding the coyotes.

[2:13:45] I don't know anybody who's actively feeding the coyotes.

[2:13:48] And I don't know anybody who can really successfully keep their pets inside.

[2:13:52] Maybe you guys have, but I hope you all don't have to go through the situation that, you know,

[2:13:56] less than our family went through.

[2:13:57] But that's already been done.

[2:13:59] And so I'm just here hoping that we can do something so that my neighbors and the rest of the community and the children are safe from, from the situation, but I do appreciate you guys listening and I hope that it's not white noise and I hope I'm not just the thousand person to say something about it, but

[2:14:17] I appreciate your consideration. I really thank you for all you guys done tonight and I guess we just saved the best problem for last, right?

[2:14:25] You'll have a wonderful night, thank you.

[2:14:26] Chief, you got any comments to make on his statement?

[2:14:31] We need to travel.

[2:14:34] Just thank you, Mary, just that we've been for a while tracking coyote sightings and

[2:14:39] encourage people to call in to dispatch center at 2.4363-3000 whenever they see one,

[2:14:44] give us the time, location, and direction of travel.

[2:14:47] And we're tracking those to see if we might need to get some help in the state.

[2:14:50] Thank you.

[2:14:55] You may else have missed?

[2:14:57] Me and the jury.

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