[0:06] Okay, it's six o'clock in the morning of November the 6th, 2023 with a roll call.

[0:21] Councilman Westman.

[0:27] Councilman Greg Turner.

[0:31] Councilman Markis Yaks.

[0:33] Mayor Pro Temp, Joe and Podrotti here, and Mayor Denryth.

[0:38] I'm here also.

[0:39] We have a colleague.

[0:46] Mr. Mayor, Mr. Assembly for which the next one is.

[0:51] I'm glad, and it is a little, a little bit of a great decision.

[0:54] It's all for me.

[0:55] Great with me.

[0:56] I got thank you for this time for this season of love.

[0:59] May we express that love to those who are around us and to those in our community.

[1:04] be with us as we deliver your city and it's in your name we pray.

[1:10] I love your heart.

[1:14] All right.

[1:16] Because sometimes, I think we did this last time and it was useful to get some of the presentations out of the way.

[1:24] So we are allowed to do this because we're not going to take any action.

[1:27] So what I'd like to do is begin with recognition

[1:32] of 20 years of service to Ryan Nichol.

[1:37] Public,

[1:47] actually, I didn't know he had a real name

[1:49] because I know everybody knows me.

[1:52] Mayor, I hear a call to you, thank you, Mayor.

[1:54] So the record, we're skipping Dissection 5.

[1:57] We're skipping Dissection 5.

[2:00] That's what you said yesterday.

[2:01] It's last.

[2:02] You know, I love public works because they're there before we show up, they're doing their event and they're there after we're done and what they do largely goes unknown is

[2:15] So I very much appreciate what you are doing and what you've got from the city you are an icon and so very much appreciate that your services.

[2:25] Thank you Mr.

[2:42] All right, now I'm moving to section number seven presentations.

[2:51] City Council receive a presentation for Leonard John City and here on the dog park.

[2:57] That's a good question for proposals of this.

[2:59] It's a good question.

[3:03] Good evening, Mayor.

[3:05] Thank you, Mayor.

[3:11] Again, this is the location of the All Park.

[3:15] If you recall, you started off with a bigger dog park.

[3:18] If the last council meeting or previous council meeting,

[3:24] we reduced the size of the park.

[3:26] So that's what it looks like now.

[3:35] Again, council and authorized a budget of 85,000

[3:39] and the order to this is the podcast, free to sleep.

[3:42] In July, we made a presentation that we had identified

[3:46] a contractor to construct the park.

[3:54] This was a buy board contract, which meant

[3:57] that we did not have to go through the bid process.

[4:01] In September, I brought that contractor proposal to you, you discussed it, and you made a decision

[4:12] at that time that we should go out, develop plans for a smaller part, and develop plans

[4:25] and did the project.

[4:29] We did reduce the size.

[4:33] We developed bit documents.

[4:37] The bit were developed for the project,

[4:41] and advertised in November of 2022.

[4:45] We held a pre-bit conference on December 22,

[4:50] with some potential bidders.

[4:53] Beads worth open publicly on January to 12th.

[5:00] The Senate received seven bids.

[5:05] These are the bidders and the order of the bid. Three feet concrete as a lowest bidder, a parent, low bidder for 51,700 dollars, they're out of count of taxes.

[5:22] I'm not going to read all of the names, but you can see the prices range in the work

[5:30] from 52,200 and $7,000 for the project, which we will visit to get 7,7 debtors

[5:41] to bid on the project.

[5:46] We get reference checks on the bidder.

[5:50] And we looked at the three lowest bidder, and we did reference checks on those three bidder.

[6:00] All the reference checks came back very good for all three contractors.

[6:08] I had conversations with all three bidders just to make sure when you begin to look at the bid,

[6:14] between $52 and $7,000, it's always a concern

[6:18] and they do the work, and as you have outlined

[6:21] in the Fifth Documents, two of the bidders,

[6:27] unquote, fence, and straight line management set

[6:31] that they could do the work as fit.

[6:36] The lowest bidder, three fee concrete,

[6:39] They had concerns and questions, and I met them on site to discuss their bid.

[6:50] And I was informed that they could not do the work for the amount that was given.

[6:58] There was in the bid, they had to retain a minimum two inches under the fence,

[7:04] And they have to do some clearing and grading in order to set the best one.

[7:10] They did not include that in their bid.

[7:14] They did not go to the site, which some of the most of the contracts did deserve the

[7:20] condition.

[7:22] They did not, during the bid process, contracts have an opportunity to call us or submit the

[7:28] mail questions.

[7:30] And we respond to that.

[7:31] We actually submitted questions, responded to questions and asked during the dead process.

[7:41] When we looked at that, we considered 30-p concrete, dead, non-responsive.

[7:55] After review of the registered as a dead document,

[7:59] It is our recommendation that you wore the time prime to uncoor fence for $57,855.

[8:19] Just give you a question.

[8:24] Yes, we have to wait till the presentation.

[8:26] Okay, on your, the document you gave us, you said that a word of contract in the amount

[8:35] of 57,855 dollars and then down in the bottom it says, it has also recommended that

[8:42] the sum of 14,000 being reserved as a contingency fund.

[8:46] Are you saying reserved 14,000 from the 57,000 or add 14,000 to the 57,000?

[8:52] And I was going to get to that in the new, in the recommendation.

[8:59] So we're talking 71,000, 8,155 dollars.

[9:02] Yes, what you want.

[9:04] Okay.

[9:04] But it would be held in a research.

[9:07] It's not there for the contract.

[9:09] It would be for the city manager if he needed to add anything to the contract.

[9:15] The money would be available to do.

[9:17] Right.

[9:17] What we're saying is we're going to build a dog park at a maximum of

[9:23] $155.00 and if we don't use it all, it goes back to the kitty.

[9:26] Right.

[9:26] Well, anyway.

[9:27] A fence.

[9:29] A fence.

[9:31] Yes.

[9:31] You said dog park.

[9:32] It's going to make sure that this bit is for a fence.

[9:35] It's a dog park.

[9:36] When I say dog park, I mean, well, I'm just saying there can be more to the dog park, but

[9:40] I can't.

[9:41] For the fence.

[9:42] For the dog park.

[9:43] And as you have authorized or you have directed city staff that the Council would consider

[9:53] build in the project for 85,000.

[10:00] All right, give the bill a total of $71, almost $72,000.

[10:04] Okay, thank you, sir.

[10:05] But I'm core finton. Their bid is responsive. The project is within the proposed budget. They have demonstrated

[10:15] experiences and building projects this size. They have the equipment and personnel to

[10:22] do the project. And again, the excellent references are there. And again, we do recommend

[10:33] $14,000, we've reserved and intensive funds for unforeseen issues or addition that

[10:39] It may be a great question.

[10:43] OK, so if you're recommendation that this council approve and

[10:47] expenditure of $71,000 and $55 for the dog park fence,

[10:51] could you have already done that?

[10:54] Because then I think we've already approved the expenditure.

[10:57] It's just letting the contract is what we're working on now.

[11:00] I didn't know we'd approved the $71,000, but that's OK.

[11:04] It approved 85,000.

[11:05] We approved 85.

[11:07] Yes, sir.

[11:08] It comes in under that we're happy council.

[11:12] Thank you, Mr. Young.

[11:13] And again, this is the fence in the pipe.

[11:17] It meant in two.

[11:19] The other one was similar to this, but this is the fence that would be installed.

[11:27] In any questions or directions you have.

[11:32] I appreciate that you went out for the bids because this certainly came in under what the previous bid was.

[11:42] All right, any more questions on the dog fence?

[11:46] All right.

[11:47] We'll move on to the City Council.

[11:51] We'll see the presentation from Leonard Young City,

[11:53] a general on this new pool located at 8.5-0-6-1.

[11:58] But before we do that, so we're buying the fence now, right?

[12:01] We're done.

[12:01] We can't vote on anything because we haven't had citizens to be heard.

[12:05] So we can't take any action at this point.

[12:07] We can get presentations.

[12:12] Again, this is the food site, a Minister of Food located on Winson.

[12:25] Again, over the past several years,

[12:30] the city has considered several options to require

[12:34] a place to pool.

[12:39] One of the concerns that the Council on Hand is to warranty if you renovate the pool.

[12:46] We have discussions about renovating the pool.

[12:53] Then we came back at the plant site land presentation.

[12:57] There's a pool system called Merit of Pools.

[13:00] And they basically do renovations on site.

[13:06] They provide a longer warranty than currently renovating

[13:13] non-factor little out and I pop a little bit more about that.

[13:18] Merchipose has been in business for six years and have installations in the

[13:23] Senate Township, Texas, and worldwide.

[13:29] Over that time period, Merchipose system has installed 20,000

[13:34] from Merchipose facilities in HJU countries.

[13:40] The advantage is to use an emergency system,

[13:45] it allows for the existing food to be renovated.

[13:49] If you're renovating the existing food, it does not require specialized maintenance.

[13:57] Markter provides a standard 25 year warranty on the struck and 10 year warranty on all of the PVC components.

[14:09] You can get an additional warranty here if you choose and I'll talk just a little briefly about that.

[14:17] Depending on what you're going to ask me for the cost.

[14:22] We don't know exactly what to call it, but in order for them to establish a cost for the additional warranty,

[14:29] they have to know which pool system you're taking.

[14:33] The other requirement to ensure that the warranty period that the pool is well maintained,

[14:45] you have to enter a maintenance agreement with them.

[14:49] So when a maintenance agreement, they can actually extend the warranty 10, 15 years.

[14:56] But you have to enter one.

[14:57] I don't know what those numbers are, you know something.

[15:00] We'll come back because you need to select a full type first. There is no need for red flashing or red

[15:10] panning or red dialing the full, once it's installed.

[15:16] The market full retains its structural integrity,

[15:21] which is real good for us, because we're in plays and a lot of movement in our soul. So if

[15:29] stand those tight conditions.

[15:34] It can be built in a very short time frame. You don't have

[15:39] all of the heavy equipment that's required because they basically build a pool inside the

[15:47] pool. So you use the existing structure if you will. So that saves on the time. They can do it in about

[15:56] third-time traditional food.

[16:04] The other thing is with a market pool,

[16:08] if you remember the configuration of the pools,

[16:12] they can shake their configuration

[16:14] to fit any configuration that you want.

[16:18] And so it has a lot of flexibility

[16:20] in how they can assemble.

[16:24] Dusty, can you go to the video just real quick?

[16:27] I have a clip that's less than two minutes and just kind of watch the

[16:34] construction of the pool.

[16:42] This is in time for the pool.

[16:57] There's no audio we get. You can't even hear us.

[18:00] If you go back

[18:07] to the top, those channels

[18:09] are in the great sick. You're around that. That's where all of your plumbing would go, so it would

[18:16] Underneath the easy, easy accessible if you had to do do maintenance as well, so it's smaller than the footprint of the actual pool

[18:25] It's a little bit smaller, but I mean that that's how you you're able to put in all of this

[18:31] discreet fancy sense of stuff. Right. Okay, it does

[18:41] and they're applying the

[18:44] bottom of the pool

[18:48] the towns on the sides

[18:54] filling the pool a

[19:10] couple of little bit about the

[19:12] development of construction costs. We actually work with the

[19:18] market, the manufacturer of the materials, and one of their

[19:22] partner contractors, which is Texas Aquatic Instruction,

[19:29] KAC.

[19:32] We developed some options for innovation using that

[19:38] The scope of the project was to have, you have two tools, one of the tools would be a laptop, if you will, which would be approximately 2400 square feet of tools.

[19:54] What a minimum debt of three and a half feet to five feet feet.

[20:01] A waiting pool, which would be two feet deep, and about 1800 square feet of pool.

[20:13] We would install the pool treatment systems. We had talked about before. We need to replace the pool treatment system.

[20:24] We remove all of the food that and make the facility ADA compliant.

[20:33] That includes the parking out front and the existing parking out front.

[20:40] Make sure we have ADA compliant there.

[20:43] The sidewalk out front.

[20:47] Any adjustment or adaptation in the restroom area.

[20:51] area, and then we replace the deck. The deck has to be replaced, but it needs to be replaced

[21:00] in the eight components as well. So if you move to the existing pool, you have some step-ups and

[21:05] things in the redesign, it would allow accidents for someone who is disabled to also put

[21:14] to that lower area. So we would make sure that that's as well.

[21:23] Options that are going to talk about real quickly is only with the construction as described.

[21:30] I'll talk about parking a little bit of an average.

[21:32] Often one would be a process where we go to a design deal process that's where the city would select a construction farm, to design, to full, and also to construct a full.

[21:53] One of the advantages of doing it that way, as the contractors developing to design, the city gets a chance to give a lot of input on quality, costs, and tons.

[22:11] You kind of, when you hire a design builder, they work with you on the design.

[22:17] They can do things that if you went to a traditional design, be it bill.

[22:24] You have to do those two change orders.

[22:26] You kind of getting all of that work out in upfront, in the process of typically school districts.

[22:33] That's the way that they do a lot of their work is designed, billed, or another process

[22:38] all construction management risk. The other option is murder is a

[22:48] Bible where text is a Bible where it's supplied. That means that they're

[22:54] on the state's pyramid system, which means they provided cost already.

[23:02] They've already competed for it. You don't have to bet if you want to

[23:06] So the city has an option, they get by the equipment at a very reduced cost.

[23:15] Are you contractor to do the install and that's something that they've taken down before?

[23:22] So that process would have free purchase and contractor install.

[23:31] Let me ask you a question.

[23:35] There's like $100,000 difference between us doing something for the pool or having them do

[23:43] everything for the pool.

[23:45] Is that what you're saying?

[23:46] No, I think I'll try to cover that in the next slide.

[23:50] On the left side.

[23:51] On the cause.

[23:52] Again, the items on the left column, you have the items, and then we have option one and option two.

[24:08] If we just looked at that, I

[24:13] don't know how to turn it up.

[24:15] If you look at the left pool, the option one.

[24:21] So the laptop on an option 1, which is a design field, the contractor body equipment, then

[24:30] they do the construction, they do all the fancy finishes to the work, it is $821,000.

[24:42] If you went with option 2, where you'd pre-purchase, you looked at the savings of almost $100,000

[24:56] because against, there's no morph up, you're running to right, you're running to right, you're running to right.

[25:00] I already bought it in a discount price. So, that's where you get a saving by going to, and that's just on the left

[25:08] pool. You look at again, if you, the waiting pool, the equipment costs for design and

[25:17] to $35,000. If you did the install, the equipment costs would only be approximately $169,000

[25:28] to do. So that's where you kind of pick up the savings using those options. You still would

[25:37] have to do all of the ADA and concrete decking that I discussed. That's $230,000. Under the

[25:51] design and veil, you're going to have an engineering cause. It's a higher cause. 103

[26:00] to the cost of $4,000.

[26:03] And the contingency, because it costs a little bit higher for design

[26:08] bills.

[26:10] So the total of option 1 is 1.83, maybe.

[26:16] Option 2 is 1.75, 1.75, million dollars.

[26:25] Let me just ask you a quick question.

[26:27] design bill in my experience has always been so much faster and flawless what's your opinion on that?

[26:37] I've done it either way and I think this project is quite a well-suited.

[26:44] I've been in my experience with roadways going to design bill. I've not been pleased.

[26:50] Right.

[26:51] I'm sorry.

[26:52] More decisions.

[26:53] Please.

[26:53] Not been pleased.

[26:54] I'm not a roadway.

[26:57] The design builds that I live through were the new courthouse, the new or new courthouse,

[27:03] the big buildings.

[27:05] And design builds always was a hundred times better, because you didn't have the hiccups.

[27:12] You had a better timeline, things happened faster.

[27:15] You had, I think, in every situation we always had more accountability.

[27:19] So I understand there's $100,000 less than $100,000 savings, but in your opinion, is it worth

[27:29] that with the benefits of design built?

[27:33] Well, I think that design will lend its sound to an opportunity to cut the cost if you're

[27:42] working with the contractor at the front, as they develop plans, you get an opportunity to

[27:49] come in and discuss those, discuss what those calls for, so when you get into construction,

[27:59] and there's an issue, well, I didn't see that, I missed that, well, you were to do that,

[28:06] you had to design it in the contractor in the same room, so that's something they should

[28:11] So, you kind of get away from those, kind of on roadway, utility project is so straightforward.

[28:20] As you can see it, but when you're doing buildings and facilities, there are a lot of things that come up that make a difference.

[28:28] You get an opportunity to choose the product you want.

[28:34] You know, we give an estimate on the treating system.

[28:37] We can go to the contractor and say, you have $200,000 for the treatment system.

[28:46] Is there one that's compatible that we don't have to use that system?

[28:51] You kind of confuse that, and maybe they find a system that's $50,000 cheaper.

[28:56] Let me ask you a question based on what Jones said in my views, which are, why should we

[29:01] have to do anything?

[29:02] We're going to get paid.

[29:03] Let somebody else do it.

[29:04] Her question was, which do you recommend?

[29:07] Not that all is which do you recommend I think he said he likes design build and so do I yeah

[29:14] Well, so do I but he likes does not say I recommend do you recommend design build sure okay fine moving on

[29:24] Now sure we got the cost

[29:28] Now

[29:30] Since you're going to look like you're going to go outside the polarity just real quick question

[29:34] And this, what does this proposal do to the current, what do we call the building?

[29:45] So changing room, changing room, changing room, changing room, changing room, office area.

[29:48] You mentioned some ADA things, does it do anything else in that building?

[29:52] This is just a pool.

[29:53] We got it.

[29:54] Well, you did.

[29:55] But I think you did say the restroom, we can be the restroom, and maybe some showers

[29:59] there's ADA.

[30:00] But other than that, it doesn't do anything to that structure.

[30:03] If I remember correctly, the rest of the nation is in the same building, so would they not have to renovate that building?

[30:11] I mean, it's down the road, and I understand it's a lot of money, and it's not going to be far down the road.

[30:18] But I think, and I correct me if I'm wrong, we have to get the bathrooms in the showers, 88 compliant.

[30:23] We don't have to get the rest of the stuff, 88 compliant.

[30:26] Yeah, just what I'm saying right now, if we're going to ask for 1.8 and now we're going up to

[30:32] 2.5 with parking, we might as well just ask for further money down in the road, it's going

[30:37] to be required to ask what I'm saying is, why short change yourself?

[30:41] No, I mean, obviously when when and if we ever get to the place where that's going to happen,

[30:46] we're going to figure out everything we need and try to get it all or try to figure a way to

[30:50] finance it without floating a bond. I mean, there's all kinds of options that we can look at

[30:55] Once we get to the end of the road, this is just, we're in the middle of the road right now.

[31:00] I thought we were here.

[31:02] Yellow lines in armadillos, middle of the road.

[31:05] Right, I thought we were here to get a recommendation and moving forward on something.

[31:10] Well, I mean, we're, this is not something, I mean, your dog park, we can do that. That's $80,000.

[31:17] This is two and a half mill. We're not going to do that tonight.

[31:20] I'm sorry, the dog park is funded.

[31:23] Yeah, this is so nice.

[31:24] I understand that.

[31:25] Not what I mean.

[31:26] Not funded.

[31:27] And we're not being approved.

[31:28] One episode of the other by now.

[31:31] We're just getting some ideas.

[31:33] This is we don't have this.

[31:35] We may have a way to come up with this kind of money.

[31:37] There are certain options that we can talk about.

[31:40] And floating a bond is one of them.

[31:42] But there are others.

[31:44] But we need to not go off half-cock.

[31:47] I think what we'll find, we're not making any decisions in a presentation, is that the council

[31:54] could just say the sense of the council is we want to go start going that direction, and

[32:01] then as John said, there's a whole lot more work that has to do with it.

[32:04] And I agree, we just start leaving somewhere for the council, the council can indeed

[32:11] lean somewhere, not now. Later on, we can present, we're presenting now, we can lean later.

[32:19] So what you're saying is right now, we can't lean, we can't, you can't, at this point in the

[32:25] meeting, because we're doing a presentation. Okay. You can lean later on.

[32:28] This is having spoken, so we can't do anything. You said the treatment system is included, so when

[32:35] says Merthak Quintent, it is the treatment, the water treatment.

[32:39] Yes, I think if it felt so precious, the packaging, it did

[32:43] show some of the Merthak treatment system, so it's included in the cost.

[32:49] Does it include removing the baby cool?

[32:53] Does it remove the eye?

[32:54] I don't think we're supposed to call it that Cindy.

[32:57] No, it's not politically correct.

[32:59] It rid of the smaller, we didn't.

[33:04] we didn't include it in the cost. I think it was a desire not to utilize

[33:12] our safety issues. No, I am just getting rid of it. What did it happen? And I

[33:19] haven't talked to Mr. Ciel about it or the part-sleeful operation. But that's a

[33:25] nice plan. If the public works want to invert that to a planer for a person,

[33:36] It's going to be a slight, okay, let me, let me, okay, go ahead, I'm sorry, just kind of

[33:51] some, someone, in the previous, on-site, who, construction?

[34:01] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

[34:01] including parking, it was 2.5 million dollars. If we added that $400,000 into the parking

[34:13] on an option one, the design bill, it brings that to about 2.325 million. If we added to

[34:24] option 2, it rains the food costs at $2.17 to make it dollars.

[34:35] And I just want to add on the parking, because Council has had discussions on the parking and

[34:44] $400,000 and it involves landings of the street and taking part of the city own right away out in the

[34:58] to the city but

[35:00] There may be issues or concerns with that. And it is instruction. Is that the city still has the option of allowing

[35:09] own street parking in the area? That's where people would not be taken. It will be a very narrow parking in the street in those areas

[35:21] about 32 feet. So we have the travel lines. We could make them about 11 feet. It would be very

[35:31] narrow, but it would be for missable. Are you talking about, you're talking about this

[35:39] distance without utilizing, we're talking about not spending a half a mill to fix parking

[35:44] in the beginning and then maybe in the next budget year we can look at parking if we need

[35:51] And so we would do some spriping and we'd do some sonnage, but we could monitor and

[35:59] see if it becomes too traffic congested or whatever, and then program that into later

[36:07] budgets.

[36:08] Right.

[36:08] I like that.

[36:09] How many handicap parking slots do we need?

[36:14] It would be great.

[36:15] None of them.

[36:16] None of them.

[36:16] So there's two there now.

[36:19] So we just need to read one.

[36:21] We need to reconfigure that layout there.

[36:26] And the parking there is.

[36:27] So but in just one more thing I'm parking.

[36:30] So in the past I was under the impression that we had to have a certain number based on the.

[36:34] It was 25.

[36:36] Where did you get that?

[36:38] It was from the code and just treating as a part of the city code.

[36:49] It's not in chapter 113 because parking has its own code that's under safety, so it's in the parking code.

[37:12] So what section are there?

[37:19] In this scenario where you're talking about not taking any of the

[37:24] easements of and using the street that that allows for enough space for emergency vehicles all right.

[37:33] If it would.

[37:35] And just you don't know if you call it a location.

[37:38] Google it.

[37:39] But it's going to be dicey having to wait a two-way street there.

[37:44] There he goes.

[37:44] We don't want him out for parking on one side.

[37:47] Not both sides.

[37:49] If you don't want to be on one side to carry a traffic because you only have about 32

[37:54] feet.

[37:55] That's exactly what I'm saying is there's going to be very dicey to have two way traffic

[38:01] after you take out that curve parking.

[38:04] After you take out that part of the street.

[38:12] Can we give him a coupon if they're carpool?

[38:15] All right, we can make it one way, how's that?

[38:19] Anyway, if you look here at the street, you see when that one car is parked there?

[38:27] Okay, that pretty well makes it a very tight two-way street if those cars are parked there.

[38:34] We do some creativity there because you're backing out.

[38:39] Where the parking is facing the pool, we would not allow parking objects at that, because

[38:48] people are walking.

[38:49] But when you go south, there could be parking down, north of the intersection, or the intersection

[38:59] there, the south, there could be parking all along there.

[39:03] Are you talking, wait, wait, wait, wait, are you talking about Zephyr Drive?

[39:07] No, we're doing wind songs.

[39:10] Okay, so in front of the church, you're talking about going with down to the next

[39:16] street.

[39:17] Oh, so I see, so you have parking along the right side there, or hardly, either way,

[39:24] but probably the right side.

[39:26] And then you get to a point where you want to leave enough room for the residents on the

[39:31] owner so that they do have extra people we kind of restrict parking there. So you have

[39:39] parking all up and down the side of the street. Sometimes it could be on the lip, sometimes

[39:44] on the right. And I'll give us additional parking.

[39:47] Okay, go back up to where the church is. All right, now go keep going farther down.

[39:53] Right there. There you go. All right. No, little far. No stop.

[39:57] Okay, what did you say about you were

[40:00] Would you restrict the vehicles parking in front of the pool backing up?

[40:04] Yeah, you just, you're worried about interactions are accidents.

[40:11] Of course I am. Between people walking, backing out from the current parking onto cars that may be parked across the street.

[40:22] So we can kind of limit those and then everywhere.

[40:25] Wait, limit what? The once facing in the parking lot or the once on the street?

[40:32] If you look at the entirely into the street, Mr. Young, it's not really in the rub, but I think what we're trying to get to the point is that across the street from the existing parking, there will be no curbside parking.

[40:47] Because of the rejection.

[40:48] That's correct.

[40:49] That answers that question.

[40:51] Pull back on.

[40:54] When you're talking about easement, dusty if you go off the north.

[40:58] So, on the left where the tennis court is, how much easement does the city have in that green space?

[41:09] You have 32 feet.

[41:12] 32 feet.

[41:14] The pavement is 32 feet.

[41:17] The width of that corner.

[41:19] The bottom corner.

[41:20] The bottom corner.

[41:20] Keep going.

[41:22] That's your right way, right there.

[41:24] Your index finger is that.

[41:25] It stops.

[41:26] Right there.

[41:27] when they go straight up.

[41:28] The city doesn't have any issues.

[41:30] Yes, I'm going to say about seven or maybe seven feet,

[41:35] which is the width of that sidebar.

[41:37] Because on Zephyr, on Zephyr, I understand

[41:40] that's going to become parking spaces for the town

[41:46] that would go right there.

[41:48] On Zephyr, I understand that's going to become parking spaces

[41:51] for that since it's for whatever the name of this club

[41:55] is there, correct?

[41:57] So you're not going to be able to park on Zepher

[41:59] on that side of the street because they're

[42:01] going to be back and up.

[42:03] And then you're saying, now you're going to prohibit

[42:07] parking on Winsong at the length of where

[42:12] the pool house is in the church and all that, right?

[42:18] You see right there where it says Winsong, right across

[42:20] from the tennis courts on the right?

[42:25] There wouldn't be parking there because there's

[42:28] traffic that's going to back into the street so long there. That's what I'm asking is we're

[42:33] going to stay in that one area, that block, that they can not park on that side on the street.

[42:41] The north side of Winston, the answer is no parking.

[42:46] Are there current parking restrictions on

[42:54] I'm just saying there's cars there now.

[42:55] But we don't even on this picture.

[42:57] I'm obviously not now.

[42:58] There are no, right currently there are no restrictions

[43:01] to parking on when saw.

[43:04] But we do pavement morpings.

[43:06] I don't like it.

[43:07] You would strike it so that I can get between the lines or whatever.

[43:14] And because we want to make sure, again, no one backs in.

[43:17] Right.

[43:17] But right now there's nothing that stops you from parking behind those cars in that parking line, right?

[43:23] So right now, that's the way that's you can park there.

[43:27] But nobody in that.

[43:29] That cars are parked right there.

[43:30] There's a car on this picture parked right there.

[43:32] So you can park there.

[43:34] We're just if we do this and we're going to make it safer.

[43:39] It's even going to be better than it is.

[43:41] We're going to control.

[43:43] Awesome sauce.

[43:45] Cool back.

[43:47] So, with that, that concludes my presentation on the available portion of any questions made.

[43:54] Yes, I have a couple. On your proposal, I was wondering on the back where it says general requirements.

[44:03] Page, I guess it's six.

[44:08] Are you, would we have the same page here?

[44:10] The TAC, the one that has the TAC.

[44:12] No, I know where you are.

[44:14] Okay, under line number two, it says this proposal does not in capital letters.

[44:20] account for Davis-paking prevailing wage rates. So do you have some kind of an ideal? What wage rates are going to be?

[44:28] Well, you, you, you, you, you don't, you don't have an ordinance that can control your wage rates.

[44:34] Uh, wage rates.

[44:35] No, what I'm saying is you just told us so far, 2.3 million dollars.

[44:41] But now we're going to have to add wages to that. So that's why there's no wage rate.

[44:46] Great.

[44:48] I've quit an operator by, by depending on Senator Antonio, it may $25 an out here.

[44:55] If you're doing the city of Senator Antonio, you have to pay that wage rate, everything.

[45:01] You do not have a wage rate scale in your ordinances, that says contracts will have a wage rate. They

[45:10] We've completely forgot the skill field and they're right to be $18 now.

[45:20] So they're saying we're just going to charge you the rates that we normally win on our

[45:25] contract.

[45:26] If we're paying a $18 an hour and now you're telling me I have to pay them $25, that's

[45:35] with your vehicle.

[45:36] I'm going to increase my cost because you're telling me that I have to pay that

[45:40] weight rate. So that's all they're saying is we're going to pay our employees what we

[45:48] pay that is not based upon a federal weight rate. So what they're going to pay their

[45:54] employees has been facted into 2.3 million dollars.

[46:00] It would be their whatever they're

[46:01] paying their employees are included in that debt. That's what I'm saying. Whatever they're

[46:05] going to pay their employees that's in the 2.3 million dollars.

[46:11] Okay, another question I had

[46:13] came up, if you don't mind, like we've had this presentation like 18 months ago or two years

[46:20] ago or whatever, and all these numbers were thrown around, so I was just wondering

[46:28] if, well, Cindy, could you?

[46:34] When you look at these that were presented before, what's the difference?

[46:40] How does change?

[46:42] What do you think?

[46:45] Is there a difference between?

[46:47] Where to go?

[46:48] Was it mine?

[46:51] I think I said that before.

[46:54] Well, Mark the thing we didn't have any information on that.

[46:57] That's like all brand new to us, not brand new.

[47:00] Right.

[47:01] And the other thing is you had to take the old fool out.

[47:06] Demolition of the old fool.

[47:09] To build a new fool.

[47:10] OK, when we started this, we had three options.

[47:15] Rebuild the Opule, replace the Opule with this liner thing,

[47:20] or build the Aquatic Center.

[47:22] So we've had three numbers all the way to...

[47:24] So this liner thing was never on the table.

[47:27] We just learned about this Martha thing in the last...

[47:30] I'd beg you for this is our presentation on Martha.

[47:35] No, it's Martha, right.

[47:36] But we were told we had a presentation.

[47:38] and how a company would come in, dig all the stuff out of the rule and remove them.

[47:45] They're not removing the food with this.

[47:48] No, I understand that.

[47:49] Thank you.

[47:49] We have no cost for every commission.

[47:53] The initial presentation that we provided and I have coffee to those was to just go in, redo the decking,

[48:04] Reline the pool and that's where the conversation start,

[48:08] well, what's the water deal?

[48:09] You're going to spend over a million dollars

[48:12] and you don't have a water deal.

[48:14] So that was the initial presentation.

[48:16] I believe back in May of 2001 that we talked about.

[48:22] And then we had an option to redo the pools on site.

[48:31] And then we're going to often do a new pool.

[48:35] Read you the pool means tearing it out and putting it in a new way.

[48:38] That's correct. Thank you.

[48:39] What you're doing, I don't think I made it very clear.

[48:43] You're doing a pool renovation.

[48:46] It's a new insert, if you will, on the pool,

[48:51] but that's a renovation on the pool.

[48:54] No, I understand. I agree. I understand.

[48:55] I just said the first contact we had from the person from any ISD was after it was already on the May ballot, the second time.

[49:06] So this is the first time we've gotten a presentation.

[49:10] And I mean, I think anybody can do their own due diligence and look this up.

[49:15] I mean, this is how the UT pool was done.

[49:18] I mean, there's like some huge fools in the great state of Texas and throughout the world that

[49:24] have used these systems that, I mean, I don't, I don't know when they did the UT pool, but

[49:28] it's been quite a while and it's, they're still raving about how wonderful it is.

[49:34] Now, they claim that I haven't found anything to say to different, but they've never replaced

[49:40] one of them.

[49:41] Yeah.

[49:42] I read that too.

[49:43] Pretty amazing.

[49:43] And so, but I didn't see any one on trying to Google searches and whatever, I didn't see that either.

[49:50] But you put the Google's open back up.

[49:53] All right, so when we start talking about the bill, there's two polls that you have in this proposal.

[50:11] So, if we were to ask the Parks and Recs to look at this, there could be some options that could potentially either could potentially, let's just say for instance, the waiting pool was smaller, or there I say a slash pad.

[50:30] How would that happen that they could go back and look and say, okay, this is the, this is a better

[50:36] Because this might not be the best configuration for for us, they could, again, I think I made in presentation is they can configure pool on the fifth and fifth and fifth

[50:47] any songs that get or songs that you said they could, they could put a splash pad, let's just say they cut half of this waiting thing

[50:58] they could actually put a small waiting pool and a splash bit in the current footprint of the waiting

[51:06] doesn't pass okay alright so and the other thing and and I said I wasn't going to ask this

[51:11] but now we've gone down that road because of what you explained they could do one of those

[51:17] entry like you know what the zero entry so we could make this just so handicap accessible and friendly and

[51:24] One of the things, and again, we set the left pool is because in our conversation, Council

[51:33] I mentioned the use of the pool by Northeast, and swim, so that's why I speak.

[51:40] And going down that road, because of that, and because of a lot of other things, there

[51:49] the ability to go to other funding sources and say hey we help us out. So this is why I have said

[51:58] we don't necessarily have to float a bond. We may not, we may be able to float a bond for part of it.

[52:03] We may not have to float a bond at all if we can find some stakeholders willing to come to the table.

[52:08] I mean when they were closing the pool at the Y, I'm pretty sure that the county commissioners,

[52:15] Especially the one that represents us came forward and made an offer a huge offer to help keep that open.

[52:22] So I think that in this particular situation where we have probably the only pool that allows

[52:31] the adjoining neighborhoods to use us and we have for years that it makes sense to go to commissioners

[52:39] and other entities and say we would like your assistance in paying for this.

[52:45] Okay, I'm not I'm not talking about paying for it. You just miss I like talking about paying for it because you know that's kind of my thing

[52:51] I can't talk about that now anyway

[52:52] You said is zero entry entry are you talking about it on the the waiting pool?

[52:57] Yeah

[52:58] Because of what they can do with this system we would actually be able to make this

[53:04] The as handicapped it accessible as as we could with the new build because they can do all that they can do their magic and make that happen

[53:15] Okay, Mr. Young, do the magic and make that happen.

[53:18] Well, we can't say that now, but.

[53:21] All right, any more questions for Mr. Young on the presentation?

[53:28] Thank you, Mr. Young. Thank you, sir.

[53:31] Thank you, sir.

[53:31] Thank you, Councilor Steven, update on trusted driver on the ongoing program.

[53:46] Councilman, thanks for having me.

[53:49] We're just wanted to catch you guys up on where we're at and give you a snapshot of what trusted drivers do in the wing crest.

[53:55] So, we launched January 15th of 2022.

[54:00] Those are first community event where we provided a medication literature.

[54:05] You know, I flew this stuff for the purpose of the Civic Center.

[54:08] And had the opportunity for motorists and citizens to actually sign up for the platform.

[54:13] We just had 160 members sign up.

[54:16] So, we had the database going.

[54:18] We wanted to proceed with the platform and process.

[54:22] However, chief goals indicated that we had to kind of hold back because of something

[54:27] went on with the court.

[54:29] I was not privy to the specifics of what that was.

[54:32] We did visit with the court one time to learn the process and modernize it and make it a

[54:39] more efficient paperless court who is what they wanted.

[54:42] However, we have not been able to get back their chief goals kind of indicated that he

[54:47] would let me know when that would be possible.

[54:49] So I did reach out to multiple times throughout the year.

[54:53] I did not hear back from those adults in and then I didn't know he had retired.

[54:57] So, or move on, it's just what I guess I learned.

[55:00] So, we were unaware of that. I did finally communicate with Captain Cole and Lieutenant Krum on where we were at and if we could update the officers, the current lawster, because I believe it had changed, and some officers were not aware of the platform or the program.

[55:16] I think it's acting chief Cole.

[55:19] He's been extremely cooperative. We met with him Thursday and caught him up on where we are with a platform and what it can do for the traffic enforcement.

[55:29] and also told them if the court was open to us because back and then we would definitely

[55:34] do that and help them.

[55:36] We're still

[55:41] going to be involved in the community, we did reach out multiple times to try

[55:46] to establish some events, we wanted to do a health fair for the citizens, we did not receive

[55:51] any work back on when we could do that, but not a lot of touch with Captain Cole, I think

[55:57] we can get that done.

[56:00] I provided some documentation to determine a chroma material if you guys got it on what we've

[56:05] expanded.

[56:06] What we've implemented and installed here, we're interested to find it at the police

[56:10] tower.

[56:11] It was fully loaded with whatever chief was wanted to in the laptop.

[56:16] We did implement four cameras that are fixed in certain locations on the city.

[56:22] I believe two are on the mid-cround, crestway and eagle crest.

[56:25] They have over 5 million reads at this point.

[56:27] The officers were given a sign on the detectives, so they had pull access to that.

[56:33] We also outfitted the table with a mobile license paper to Camletoo and are scouting two

[56:40] more locations for the next six cameras that, like I said, we were kind of put on hold

[56:44] for that.

[56:45] But we do have them and we're ready to move forward and, like I said, I have community

[56:49] located with Captain Cole.

[56:51] At this point, there has been no cause to a city of Winchrist, like we initially said,

[56:56] and there will not be.

[56:57] I did provide some projections on what we would charge if those three years expired and then if you

[57:05] want to continue to use our service for a ticketing platform, what that would be.

[57:09] I did provide also the current invoice that I guess was secured by Albaloo back in 2018 on

[57:16] what that kind of system calls that you're currently using and how large is different and not only

[57:21] all savings, but I've also saved you.

[57:24] And Tushard Aber had moved on.

[57:26] We have secured agreements, mainly in the Rio Grande Valley.

[57:31] We have Cameron County, Web County, Valverde County.

[57:34] We're doing a project with the city of McAllen and McAllen

[57:37] Police Department on modernizing their court

[57:39] and making a paper list.

[57:41] We're going to get Travis County aligned here

[57:42] probably in a few weeks.

[57:44] And we launched in Nebraska and Michigan also.

[57:46] So if the court is willing to have us back in, we'll go in there and from what we can do for them.

[57:56] And we are communicating with Captain Cole on how our system works and letting their officers at least issue warnings to our system and see how different it is.

[58:07] So I would suggest that you set up a meeting with the court staff and chief Cole to help you out there.

[58:15] I think that we've got it, we've got a good group of people there, Claudia's always willing

[58:22] to listen to everybody's ideas and I think if we're going to move in the direction of modernizing

[58:31] and getting out of paper and to a more automated system, that is certainly what we would like

[58:37] to do in the future as far as I'm concerned because we don't need to get in more trees.

[58:41] How many folks do we have signed up?

[58:45] We had 160 initially, and that's all we have right now for waitress.

[58:48] Of those 160 how many contacts?

[58:52] I don't know, I'd have to look. I can get to those numbers.

[58:55] We did stop because we've all set to not continue with the excitation process.

[59:00] You wanted to change it to just warnings and feedback.

[59:04] So we had to kind of pivot and change it for a little bit.

[59:07] But I think some numbers on who we contact, not who but how many we can't give up the names here.

[59:13] So Chief Folks want to do what now? This is interesting.

[59:17] He indicated that they were working some issues out with the court.

[59:21] So he did not want to proceed with the actual citation process.

[59:24] He just wanted to do warnings and positive feedback messages to our system.

[59:30] So if one of those 160 was observed with a traffic violation,

[59:35] Then you're going to call them up and get them a warning and you're going to stop and get them a warning.

[59:39] What's that I don't understand?

[59:40] You could either.

[59:41] If they wanted to use a traditional method and pull them over, the ulcer could do that.

[59:45] And continue with a citation process using whatever ticketing process that exists now,

[59:50] which I think is believed with tighter technologies.

[59:52] Or if they were a member they could issue a warning or a positive feedback through our system.

[59:57] We move kind of adversely a little bit.

[59:59] We can issue a site of...

[1:00:00] What I get a citation to now, if they pull a member over or anybody over, doesn't have to be a member, they could still issue a citation.

[1:00:08] The traditional way with our platform faster, more efficient and paperless. That's where we're at.

[1:00:14] Of the 160, are you able to identify which ones signed up because of medical concerns?

[1:00:22] No, we cannot.

[1:00:24] We do not have access to look at who's or what they put in there.

[1:00:28] The only way anyone could see that would be operational and that would be an officer on a public roadway if you ran the last place.

[1:00:36] And if somebody tried to look at it, we could do an audit to find out if anybody tried to put an information on it.

[1:00:46] Based on the current contract, it says, through your term, what would trusted drivers go be at the end of that term? Obviously to resign and to move forward with another contract.

[1:00:58] But I would imagine if the contract wouldn't be the same stipulations.

[1:01:02] No, there would be different, yes.

[1:01:03] There would be a complete use of the system, which includes the traffic force in part for the law enforcement agency,

[1:01:11] and the municipal court part, right?

[1:01:12] The paperless court system.

[1:01:15] We do the project for McCallan is going to involve

[1:01:18] the Office for Court administration at the state level

[1:01:20] to connect them without having to send paper

[1:01:22] and all that.

[1:01:23] So what include all that?

[1:01:24] It would be a good idea.

[1:01:25] You've got a sign-off from OCA.

[1:01:28] We're already with Megan.

[1:01:30] Who's now the director over there.

[1:01:33] And she just has had choose who's within our favor.

[1:01:37] Are there any of these communities

[1:01:38] that you didn't start with this three-year term

[1:01:40] that you meetly flip to switch and you're running the whole business.

[1:01:45] They have no, but three years.

[1:01:47] They don't have a three-year pre-term, so I'm saying.

[1:01:49] Which locations have that?

[1:01:52] None of the locations you've got.

[1:01:54] Oh, just us.

[1:01:55] We're the baby test.

[1:01:56] That's what we got all the bells and whistles.

[1:01:57] Yeah, I can't ask.

[1:01:58] No, I mean, like I said, the city's been cooperative.

[1:02:01] I know that, like I said, I wasn't privy through any details about the court, but

[1:02:05] we always express a cheap old city manager that we work with

[1:02:10] in any way they wanted, if they needed us to do something, we would try our best to make sure

[1:02:13] it happen.

[1:02:14] I think I'll talk to Chief Cole and maybe Ryan's office and figure out where we can go with

[1:02:21] that.

[1:02:22] I know that initially there were some sticking points with OCA, there were some sticking points

[1:02:26] with DPS and our city attorney had some questions about that and if you've overcome those,

[1:02:33] we certainly want to find out and use it as much as we can.

[1:02:37] We'd love to revisit the Corgan and to be perfectly honest, we pressed the citizens and I don't

[1:02:45] only have the council and everybody that said helped us, kind of got us there, right?

[1:02:49] So we've met with the director of DPS and we've met with those seeing all those people and it was because we did start here, so it was a great opportunity for us.

[1:02:57] We said there's a list somewhere of those communities that you're doing the whole program.

[1:03:04] sir. Okay. And do we have that somewhere?

[1:03:08] No, I can get it to you. Okay.

[1:03:09] All right. So our website will have to list it.

[1:03:11] Okay. Okay.

[1:03:12] I was on there. And I'm voting a few more here in the back.

[1:03:15] Because I will tell you just on the on the surface, when I remember,

[1:03:20] we started.

[1:03:21] It was only for feedback and in warnings.

[1:03:26] And I mean, that's, and maybe I misunderstood.

[1:03:29] And I'm not saying that didn't have the capability.

[1:03:31] one of the saying is what I remember when we first got it was this is initially and I know

[1:03:37] that you wanted to move to someplace else this is for warnings and feedback and then the agreement

[1:03:43] has stated for actual citations and I know what we're going to be in the cost to write okay all right

[1:03:49] let's try and understand the answer. I did all the answers to do that actually like we were

[1:03:54] whatever he wanted to do okay.

[1:03:59] Well I say hook up with Rafael he can he can get you with Ryan and let's

[1:04:05] if we can go further that would be a good thing to look at.

[1:04:11] You got it.

[1:04:13] Anything else?

[1:04:14] Just the information on the context.

[1:04:17] Thank you.

[1:04:18] Thank you.

[1:04:19] All right.

[1:04:20] City Council received presentation from Armstrong,

[1:04:23] and Associate PC on fiscal year 2021, 2022, financial audit.

[1:04:31] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:04:32] Speaking of killing trees,

[1:04:33] I did murder a few.

[1:04:34] You did.

[1:04:35] You did.

[1:04:36] You're not my friend.

[1:04:36] I'm risky.

[1:04:37] Because if you open it.

[1:04:39] My goal is to be very brief 50,000 foot view, but if you had a question just for something

[1:04:43] at me.

[1:04:45] My name is Sylvan from our farm on associate.

[1:04:47] I know you guys know this, but just for everybody's benefit in the room.

[1:04:50] We're the independent cta as you've hired to audit your annual report that you have

[1:04:54] in front of you.

[1:04:55] We've done our due diligence.

[1:04:56] We tested it.

[1:04:57] We've issued you a clean opinion on the city's funds that everything.

[1:05:00] And here's two of the small march in the group. So we need to give it to your bon hulders, your residents if they know it. Somebody else has looked at this and agreed these are good numbers. The only thing that I would caveat there is that we weren't asked to audit the economic development corporation and they're not as far complete. So there's just preliminary numbers for them to hear and so we basically disavow anything because we don't know whether those numbers are right or not. Your staff is a smaller retrievers. They spent your American Rescue Plan money last year.

[1:05:28] There was a shortcut to do some compliance testing on that, but they didn't want to take

[1:05:32] shortcuts.

[1:05:33] So they did the full federal single audit, and we also included that in this audit.

[1:05:36] We had no compliance findings on that.

[1:05:40] We also, they wanted to go for the government finance officer associations award for your

[1:05:46] annual financial report.

[1:05:48] So this has been expanded, so there's some extra trees that were killed, and making it

[1:05:52] this report.

[1:05:54] And our experience, they probably won't give it to you your first year, and then may not

[1:05:57] like the EDC, not being audited in their civil seat.

[1:06:00] But once they respond, then you'll be able to counter next year

[1:06:03] and for sure it didn't, if you don't happen to get it this year.

[1:06:08] While we're doing our audited, we come across anything

[1:06:10] that we think you should be doing differently

[1:06:11] or that you're doing inappropriately,

[1:06:13] bring it to your attention.

[1:06:15] We have nothing like that.

[1:06:16] There's a letter that accompanies it.

[1:06:17] It's kind of tucked in there that goes through

[1:06:19] some required communications to you.

[1:06:21] There's really nothing a particular note

[1:06:23] that I think you should be worried about in that letter.

[1:06:25] And I think your staff does a great job of giving you financial information on a regular basis.

[1:06:32] So I don't think any of this is going to be a real big surprise to you,

[1:06:36] but I would just point out that your general fund was under budget and total for the year.

[1:06:40] You added $2 million to your general fund balance.

[1:06:43] Last year or so you're up to about 7.8 months of 2022 costs,

[1:06:48] so that might not go as far if you look at your 2020 free costs.

[1:06:51] Your 2019 Street Fund is almost complete.

[1:06:54] You have about 445,000 left and they are at the end of the year.

[1:06:57] And your garbage fund charges covered your operating costs.

[1:07:02] Yeah!

[1:07:03] Yeah, you are!

[1:07:04] Don't say anything.

[1:07:05] Get stopped the back right now.

[1:07:07] It wasn't the new city man.

[1:07:08] It wasn't a net to cover the administrative transfer.

[1:07:11] You make the general fund.

[1:07:11] Okay.

[1:07:12] So you cover the costs.

[1:07:13] So you did deed into your reserves a little bit and the garbage fund.

[1:07:15] But not like we used to.

[1:07:18] This is my first year of slow-up.

[1:07:19] Well, I'm just telling you, not like we used to, and it's just telling you how it's got to be a fact.

[1:07:24] I'm not going to tell you what I was going to do.

[1:07:26] I just really, on my, I like to be happy to answer any questions or.

[1:07:30] Because the bottom of my name is we're doing great.

[1:07:35] And thank you very much.

[1:07:37] Yeah, that's it. That's good. If that's where you're willing to go.

[1:07:40] Well, we're not doing great.

[1:07:42] We're doing it.

[1:07:43] We're doing it.

[1:07:44] We're just doing a presentation of questions.

[1:07:46] So, I did have a question on the, your intro, you see, you hadn't seen the EDC stuff.

[1:07:51] Based on your experience that you're with you and your firm, is it usual to have the city and the EDC go through the same water process by the same auditor?

[1:08:02] That's the most common.

[1:08:03] Most common.

[1:08:03] There's a lot of cost savings to have it done at the same time.

[1:08:08] Because you're also right in the payroll and you're collecting the sales tax for them,

[1:08:11] which are the two biggest functions of the EDC.

[1:08:13] And because we had to look at those anyway because we want to make sure that you're the cost

[1:08:18] one back and forth or right, we've already kind of looked at the big chunk of the EDC

[1:08:23] so to add that on would be pretty minimal, but that's a complete, you know, your decision

[1:08:29] and how you want that.

[1:08:30] Are there any cons to that scenario that you know of?

[1:08:33] Having the auditority both.

[1:08:35] Well, we're independent, so we don't really have a dog in the fight, so if there's no reason

[1:08:40] We wouldn't want to look at both, I think if I were trying to come up with a reason for why you might separate it as if

[1:08:48] For whatever reason there was issues with the EDC not getting full control over the finances if the city was keeping the finances for them

[1:08:55] And then the EDC felt like they couldn't do what they wanted to do because the city was blocking them or a city staff

[1:09:02] Perhaps but to me it would make more sense to have it together in my opinion

[1:09:07] Thank

[1:09:10] you

[1:09:11] on page six, just so I just want to explain to you what it's, oh, oh, we have it. Okay,

[1:09:18] page six, paragraph, or bullet number, I guess four,

[1:09:28] and I think this is the number

[1:09:29] you represented to us earlier, but I want to make sure we're speaking the same language.

[1:09:40] You were correct, you were correct, you were correct, you were correct, you were correct.

[1:09:43] So I'm a number on number six, mayors, that what you're looking at, or it's page six.

[1:09:47] or you're going further into the audit into the letter?

[1:09:50] Yeah, it's closer down, we'll further.

[1:09:58] Okay, so...

[1:10:01] For the state general fund report a year and fund balance of 5.3 million. Increase of 2 million, from previous year, the explain what the unassigned fund balance of 5.3 million represents, 63 percent of the total general fund漫atures. The unassigned fund balance represents, 64.1 F, 6.1 F of the expenditures, when the capital outlasts not included. So could you help me understand what those two numbers mean in

[1:10:30] But none accounting, there you go, none accounting.

[1:10:35] Is that the seven points, is the seven once you mentioned?

[1:10:38] Correct.

[1:10:39] So the fund balances your reserves or whatever you want to call it,

[1:10:42] what's left over for all the prior years.

[1:10:44] And the unassigned is the money that doesn't

[1:10:46] have any strings on it.

[1:10:47] So it's completely free,

[1:10:49] put a general fund to spend in whatever lawful purpose you

[1:10:51] want to spend it on.

[1:10:52] Like a bull.

[1:10:55] Well, we're talking about it.

[1:10:56] We already funded that.

[1:10:58] You don't need to do that.

[1:10:59] Okay, but the in theory you could have other money in your journal fund that did have strings on it, and so you wouldn't necessarily count that in that number

[1:11:07] But you don't have anything like that in your journal fund. So essentially all the journal fund is unassigned.

[1:11:13] So I like to say months your previous reports had that percentages. So it works out to me about same. Yeah, 60 or 40 cents like seven and a half seven.

[1:11:21] I just want to make sure we're talking about the set. You use bonds. I want to make sure we're done same.

[1:11:28] 7 months is 60% of the year.

[1:11:31] I guess.

[1:11:32] Just want to make sure we're talking the same language.

[1:11:34] Any questions?

[1:11:37] Thank you so much.

[1:11:39] Excellent job.

[1:11:40] Thank you.

[1:11:42] All right.

[1:11:42] We are critical.

[1:11:43] Back.

[1:11:44] What?

[1:11:45] If I may ask for you to just at least go to the item to accept the audit.

[1:11:51] That's on your chin back.

[1:11:51] The sentence is to be heard.

[1:11:52] Can we?

[1:11:53] I don't think any evidence.

[1:11:54] That's the sentence to be heard.

[1:11:55] Okay.

[1:11:56] Got it.

[1:11:57] All right.

[1:11:58] We're going to go to item number four or citizen to be here.

[1:12:00] Citizens may address city council on top.

[1:12:02] It's not agenda for not more than three minutes.

[1:12:05] Citizens shall the opportunity to address city council during consideration of the

[1:12:08] post of the gen item for not more than six minutes.

[1:12:10] City officials may make a statement of specific.

[1:12:13] Factual information response to an inquiry made by the public.

[1:12:25] We're doing it just as far as we allow to do the public hearing before we

[1:12:32] like I think what you're getting is, can we, can we, can we, can we do the, you're asking, can we do the acceptance of the audit?

[1:12:43] Yeah, we can do that, but you have to be clear as to what I don't want to say.

[1:12:46] Okay, right, I'm just, I'm saying we, we can be said as to be heard that we can accept the audit.

[1:12:50] Yeah, so many can be put on the current. Okay, perfect.

[1:12:52] Okay, great.

[1:12:54] All right, item number 11, J, Patricia.

[1:12:58] So I have multiple more V. Sorry.

[1:13:05] Yeah.

[1:13:09] It's Maori.

[1:13:10] M.O.W.

[1:13:12] M.O.W. E. R.Y.

[1:13:14] President of the Women's Club.

[1:13:15] Yes, ma'am.

[1:13:18] I will more y'all with backgrounds because there's no time.

[1:13:22] But you know, the women's club is always having a wonderful part in light up.

[1:13:27] But over time, over time, we've kept on doing our part.

[1:13:31] But the city has grown and it's become a wonderful celebration of marriage and defining the city.

[1:13:42] So while we're asking now, there's over time the lines of our part have become blurred.

[1:13:49] We don't, we don't furnish any of the funds, but we still do bring you the judges, bringing the drivers, bringing the navigators, serve, do whatever you ask.

[1:13:59] We come through. We're here. It's been working. It's going to continue to work. But we would

[1:14:04] like to redefine the lines so that presidents to follow clubs to follow will always know

[1:14:11] where we stand. We'd like to remember that we choose the theme. We find the judges. We define

[1:14:18] the categories. We want to go back to the table and have a collaborative discussion and get

[1:14:29] city secretary, members time telling her my intent to have a meeting with Mr. Castillo, and

[1:14:37] I've also drawn up as a proposal with everything we've done in the past, everything we can

[1:14:44] do, and hope that we can continue this. We don't see this as an obligation. We see this

[1:14:51] as an opportunity, opportunity for women to have a place in decisions.

[1:14:57] Thank you just for the purpose of.

[1:15:00] Information, we at the end of the light-up meeting, we have committed to having a conversation with you and the right players in the room to be exactly what you're speaking.

[1:15:12] So thank you.

[1:15:13] I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor. We look forward to your conversation.

[1:15:16] Thank you.

[1:15:17] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:15:18] Leah Fagan.

[1:15:27] Thank you for the purposes of this discussion.

[1:15:30] Now, I'm going to go for the city pool.

[1:15:33] I think it's time before the little baby, the little baby, the little one gets to be a teenager to be built, the swimming bonus to be built.

[1:15:43] I think it's a shame we're not to have it, and we have the money I think to do it, dogs can swim.

[1:15:53] I mean, dogs are going to have a day, but our kids don't have it. I have a swimming field pool.

[1:15:59] I would love to rent to other people, like they do in a lot of places.

[1:16:05] That's an open possibility of increase.

[1:16:07] You cannot provide the services.

[1:16:09] You know, we can be commercialized.

[1:16:12] You know, a lot of people are doing that.

[1:16:13] They do it all over Houston.

[1:16:15] And also, the other day, after church,

[1:16:20] I went around that area to visit the three schools.

[1:16:24] The place was completely packed by big of all of us.

[1:16:27] there's no space park. I'm telling you, you just drive around. It's big of a wall

[1:16:34] so I'm taking over this place. So I don't really know where our people are going to

[1:16:39] part. I thought about some alternatives, perhaps we can see the kindergarten go shape with

[1:16:46] the winkry cell mandatory bookbarking and have perhaps some look like a little

[1:16:51] right up a little trolley to come up from the method of this church and the Mormon church

[1:16:58] that they can come up with some flowers to build to drive people to the pool.

[1:17:04] I mean, that's not just our church, but this pool really needs to be built.

[1:17:08] And I'll also read some like in Australia and in several places.

[1:17:16] They have like a beach like environment in that area.

[1:17:20] Like, let's say some of our overwhelmed people that work, they can go and lay down and

[1:17:26] those nicely built chairs and so they can just relax while their kids are swimming or

[1:17:32] they can have a picnic, just kind of not just without backs, they're like, they're like,

[1:17:37] they're all talking, but there has to be some environment and landscaping over there also.

[1:17:43] And as far as the swimming, I mean, why not close that street and that could be an alternative also, I think people will get upset here, but perhaps they can have more parking in there.

[1:18:01] If not, there's all the possibilities that we can put that pole, perhaps by the Parks and Rec area, which is nice and flat.

[1:18:10] And also, by that Brooks Falls, there's a large area of land.

[1:18:16] You don't like to be falling with all this melted thing

[1:18:19] and all that could just build a new one and just go on for there.

[1:18:24] Because I think we are just killing so much time with bears.

[1:18:27] I just come every meeting is just so disappointing.

[1:18:30] Like I said, maybe one is going to be a teenager,

[1:18:33] that's not going to be built.

[1:18:35] Which is really embarrassing.

[1:18:36] I've seen a lot of people nowadays,

[1:18:39] a lot of young people with young children in winquests,

[1:18:42] and we're trying to bring the youth that get the winquests.

[1:18:47] But this is a necessity, I think,

[1:18:50] is more than the dog park to provide some area of relaxation

[1:18:56] for our children in our new society than winquests.

[1:19:00] Thank you.

[1:19:02] Thank you.

[1:19:03] Who's the Hamilton?

[1:19:04] But

[1:19:16] those people we pay, got to do their service.

[1:19:19] Good luck for anybody who has a leaf for citizens to be ready to come and stay.

[1:19:23] So thank you guys. I wanted to say thank you to Mr. Young for putting forth this effort to research all this.

[1:19:31] I'm excited because in December we thought that by this day the pool is going to be dug out.

[1:19:38] and the cool is still here and it's still an option and so I'm very appreciative of that.

[1:19:44] I'm appreciative of all this forward movement that we've had and that proposal that he found

[1:19:51] is killer, that sounds really cool that it doesn't produce more waste and we still get to keep

[1:19:57] our footprint and I did have a couple of questions about-

[1:20:00] I thought that one of them was, if we keep the lap pool, does that, as it is, does that allow us to continue to possibly be a rental facility for swim teams or schools or anything like that?

[1:20:15] Because that might be something we want to consider with the revenue options.

[1:20:20] I did want to correct something that I heard Wes say during the presentation, he, at one point, said we've now gone to 2.5 million, but according to that presentation, that 2.5 million was for a new pool, which is not what was being presented today, what was presented today was a renovation.

[1:20:44] So I just wanted to put it out there that that was he missed spoke and the 2.5 was not any of the numbers given for these two renovation options.

[1:20:55] That's correct, right?

[1:20:57] That was a new for that.

[1:21:01] You're asking what the two.

[1:21:02] I just want to clarify that when West said 2.5 that was for a new pool and that is not the two things we are discussing right now.

[1:21:10] I think you're correct.

[1:21:12] One of the options I was considered way back for the council was a new pool on that location

[1:21:18] if my numbers are correct.

[1:21:19] And so that number has nothing to do with what we're doing.

[1:21:22] Other than it's close to the number that we're looking at.

[1:21:27] No, that's perfect.

[1:21:29] I'm just...

[1:21:29] Okay, I just wanted to make sure I understood that correctly.

[1:21:34] And I wanted to also ask, personally, I would love to see this avoid being a bond, because

[1:21:43] that's going to continue pushing this timeline back, and it seems like if we were able

[1:21:49] to come up with something that wasn't a bond, that the full content is finished this year.

[1:21:57] would be on the timeline with the worth of process. It seems like that. It seems like it would take

[1:22:04] us as long.

[1:22:07] So, you know, it's been brought up in the past and I think John has mentioned it,

[1:22:11] you know, about focusing on, or having options of consulting with the county and other grants.

[1:22:18] And I know I mentioned things to a few people, you know, the possibility of corporate

[1:22:27] sponsorships for these things.

[1:22:29] There is a precedent by companies like HEP building entire community polls

[1:22:35] for such a large

[1:22:36] corporate.

[1:22:40] That might be a possibility.

[1:22:43] And so leading into that, you know, just being part of a group of residents that really want

[1:22:49] to get this going and get this finished so we can move on to other great things.

[1:22:55] and trying to find ways to avoid this being a bond and an expense on residents.

[1:23:02] If I know that the council has asked for people to come with solutions and not always come with companies.

[1:23:08] And so if it's the desire of the council, if it's of interest to anybody, myself and Rainbow Pressey would love an opportunity to form some sort of citizen committee,

[1:23:19] maybe along with a couple of council members on the group with us to focus on going out and securing these funds and finding

[1:23:27] sponsors and really having some people with their feet on the ground and putting in time to doing the

[1:23:34] the legwork of getting this stuff lined up as a possibility of either covering

[1:23:40] the maintenance budget or potentially maybe we can find some kind of 88 compliance business that

[1:23:46] and wants to sponsor just the ADA compliance portion

[1:23:49] of our budget in exchange for having a name or something like that.

[1:23:53] So, if there is an interest, we would like to offer a solution

[1:23:56] of chairing that and really try to take that outside funding aspect of it,

[1:24:03] away from Parks and Rec, who has a lot of other things to do,

[1:24:06] and maybe instead of sending this to Parks and Rec and bouncing back and forth,

[1:24:10] maybe this is an option of something that we consider to try to keep things moving quickly

[1:24:15] and keep this from having to be upon the expense.

[1:24:19] But thank you guys.

[1:24:19] I'm really excited about that option.

[1:24:22] And I know that for a lot of people, the warranty

[1:24:24] was a huge sticking point.

[1:24:25] And this warranty far exceeds any of those new pools.

[1:24:30] So thank you guys.

[1:24:31] Appreciate it.

[1:24:32] It doesn't look like the stuff that you use.

[1:24:34] Bristle on.

[1:24:44] Yeah.

[1:24:44] And you don't want it, but yeah.

[1:24:46] Is this the one?

[1:24:47] It's just going to put it in before we paint it on the pool.

[1:24:49] Yeah.

[1:24:52] Are she baby-free because she's not checking it?

[1:24:58] So yeah, I'm here over the pool.

[1:25:00] As well, my family, my husband and a little one just moved here to win crests back in August. And a big part of why we love win crest is how many community events are here.

[1:25:12] We love, of course, the Christmas, but just that ability to meet our neighbors and to have that small community here. That's a huge drawing factor. And part of that is a pool.

[1:25:25] We, that was one of the first things we looked into when we looked into when Chris was, is there a pool?

[1:25:32] What community amenities are there?

[1:25:35] And we were really excited to learn that there was a pool here.

[1:25:39] And then very quickly said to hear that, might not have a pool.

[1:25:44] So the matters to us, and so I know it's worth everyone's time for us to come and just share that.

[1:25:51] one of those families that do care and would use that pool and would love to spend time

[1:25:56] getting to know our neighbors, the other kids from the neighborhood. We've already connected

[1:26:01] with some other families here and we absolutely love that and we just would love more chances

[1:26:07] to be able to do that. So I don't have a lot to say I just wanted to let you know we're here,

[1:26:13] we love swimming, we love summer, we love family time and we love that when press is such a great family

[1:26:19] community. Thank you.

[1:26:22] Thank you. Welcome.

[1:26:24] Stacy, Connace.

[1:26:26] Connace.

[1:26:27] Connace.

[1:26:28] Connace?

[1:26:28] Connace.

[1:26:29] Connace.

[1:26:30] Connace.

[1:26:32] Can you spell that for us?

[1:26:35] I can't.

[1:26:37] I can't.

[1:26:40] Thank you.

[1:26:42] I'm also just here to speak about the whole.

[1:26:45] I'm going a lot of the things that Susie and R.S.

[1:26:47] was said, my husband and our three-year-old daughter moved here back in June, and we also thought

[1:26:56] that there was going to be a poll in the neighborhood, and then we're disappointed to hear

[1:27:01] that there wasn't, and then excited to hear that it was still a possibility that there might

[1:27:05] be.

[1:27:06] I had no idea about the new technology, the Martha, that he was talking about, sounds amazing

[1:27:12] to me, not an engineer, but sounds really good to me.

[1:27:17] We also really came here just for the community.

[1:27:23] We liked the feel of just a smaller town inside of San Antonio.

[1:27:28] I grew up in San Antonio.

[1:27:29] I grew up coming to see the Christmas lights here and just always thought

[1:27:33] when Christmas was such a cool community.

[1:27:36] My husband and I lived in Austin for 20 years.

[1:27:39] My husband's from there, but I lived there for 20 years.

[1:27:41] And we just, we, out grew, or, no, not out grew, but we just did not want to live in Austin

[1:27:47] anywhere.

[1:27:48] And I came back to San Antonio, and it's just, yeah, I just, I just love being in San Antonio,

[1:27:56] but also having like a smaller community feel.

[1:28:00] I do feel like having a bowl would be a place to meet more of our neighbors, and to meet more

[1:28:05] areas.

[1:28:06] I do feel like a lot of younger, it would attract a lot of younger families with kids.

[1:28:11] to this area. I think that it would increase the value of the homes and just to track here.

[1:28:18] To look at my notes.

[1:28:24] We...

[1:28:25] Oh, I do...

[1:28:26] Let's use it with saying as far as getting sponsorships from, from, like, HIV or something like that.

[1:28:34] I, like I said, grew up coming here to see the lights and I feel like people from all over San Antonio

[1:28:38] and even surrounding cities come here to see the lights across this time.

[1:28:41] So I do feel like that would be a great option that there are big corporations that would want

[1:28:47] to help us out and do that. I do also agree that I don't want it to go to a bond. I think that

[1:28:53] that would take, you know, just keep procrastinating and taking longer to get things done.

[1:29:00] So yeah, I'm for it. I'm one of those families that are for it. We would use it and I just think

[1:29:07] It would enrich the community even more.

[1:29:09] Thank you.

[1:29:11] That is an end of citizens to be heard.

[1:29:15] What I want to do now is I want to go to

[1:29:32] 11C.

[1:29:38] Okay, so we're going to move now to 11C.

[1:29:42] Discussing Act City Council will review.

[1:29:45] Discuss and make that cash on improving the fiscal year 2021-2022 audit as presented by

[1:29:52] on and associates. I moved that we approved the audit that was presented by Armstrong.

[1:30:05] All right, we're going to move back to item number 6, public hearing.

[1:30:20] I'm going to have a conversation with the attorneys about doing exactly what we did here,

[1:30:28] which we've got presentations and there really isn't any reason why we can't fix that.

[1:30:32] I do believe that that's helpful with those particularly citizens we heard, they've got

[1:30:37] a lot of information that we've taken up, so we may, we may adjust the agenda as we do.

[1:30:44] So we would actually have an agenda representing the way the meeting is going to work instead of

[1:30:48] Dan in-ball and yet we've been doing.

[1:30:50] We could indeed.

[1:30:52] All right.

[1:30:53] Public hearing.

[1:30:54] It is 731.

[1:30:58] We're going to open this public hearing.

[1:31:01] And we actually, I guess we'll be in a technical journey to count the meeting and we're opening a public hearing for received comments from the public to consider a recommendation from planning and zoning commission on potential amendments.

[1:31:12] the chapter one, thirteen zoning, planning, and zoning, a board of adjustment.

[1:31:19] Was there any citizen who wishes to speak on the public hearing regarding this item?

[1:31:26] No, what sign up?

[1:31:28] Okay.

[1:31:28] But they don't have to, because if they want to talk, they have to let it out.

[1:31:31] Anybody's here.

[1:31:32] They may speak.

[1:31:39] All right.

[1:31:40] I'm just going to wait until that thing goes, okay, at 7.32, I don't want to, I wish.

[1:31:46] I don't want to open and close it in the same minute.

[1:31:48] So at 7.32, we're closing the public hearing regarding the chapter 13, we're going back to the city council meeting.

[1:31:58] And so we will be now on item number eight, which would be the consent agenda.

[1:32:04] There are three items in the consent agenda, is anyone wish to take anything off the consent agenda.

[1:32:13] Hearing none, I'll entertain the motion to accept the consent agenda.

[1:32:17] Second. I said move the side. We accept the consent agenda. Any discussion? I was in favor of

[1:32:23] raise your hand. It's done. Thank you, Councillor.

[1:32:27] Ordinance City Council review. I don't number nine. Ordinance City Council review.

[1:32:33] Discuss and make take action on Ordinance 2023. Zeroes are to an Ordinance

[1:32:38] Mending Charter chapter 113 of the Winchrist Code of Ordinance.

[1:32:42] I moved to adopt the recommended amendments to chapter 113, made by the Winchrist

[1:32:46] planning and zoning commission with the additional clarification and amendments submitted by the city attorney to the definition of sexually oriented businesses contained in section 1113-5 and to add section 1113-352 to article 6 of chapter 13 is recommended by the city attorney's office.

[1:33:03] Second, moved in second, as stated, any questions, comments?

[1:33:12] Thank you. Excellent motion, except for the misspell.

[1:33:15] I'd love to.

[1:33:17] While the piece about this, actually oriented businesses didn't go first to planning and zoning,

[1:33:25] they did discuss it.

[1:33:26] They're agreement with the changes.

[1:33:31] They understand it.

[1:33:32] and this is the first read so any other discussion

[1:33:36] all this day raise your right hand

[1:33:38] at four o'clock thank you council resolutions

[1:33:41] city council review discuss and may act on resolution twenty twenty three five

[1:33:45] four resolution approving

[1:33:47] uh... proposal for the replacement of the fire bay doors

[1:33:51] that we accept resolution twenty twenty three dash five o'clock

[1:33:57] is it is there an hour there

[1:33:59] there's an hour in this thing on my screen okay i was looking at the uh...

[1:34:03] there's a make a difference if it's not,

[1:34:04] there's ours not on the agenda.

[1:34:08] I don't, that's not on the agenda.

[1:34:09] Because it's in a, there's an attachment

[1:34:11] to the agenda that has this exact thing,

[1:34:13] is it there?

[1:34:14] I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,

[1:34:16] I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,

[1:34:17] everybody has arts at you.

[1:34:18] So apparently everyone has this,

[1:34:20] so copy I have apparently was up there,

[1:34:22] so sorry.

[1:34:24] All right, was there a second?

[1:34:25] Yes, we have.

[1:34:26] We've been seconded that we accept the resolution of 20, 23,

[1:34:32] 504R.

[1:34:34] Thank you, Council, City Council.

[1:34:38] What are you discussing may act on resolution 2023-505?

[1:34:44] Is this also an R?

[1:34:46] Yes.

[1:34:47] Okay.

[1:34:48] A resolution approving one year contract with General,

[1:34:51] I'm sorry.

[1:34:52] Greater Randolph area services provider.

[1:34:54] I mean, we adopt resolution 2023-505-R second.

[1:35:00] Moving to the second, we have Dr. Resolution 51223505R, although there's any statements or any questions.

[1:35:11] Yeah, I'm glad that we got the numbers and just so people realize that I don't think most people realize we have this.

[1:35:19] So don't, and every year we say, you all need to let this information get out to people.

[1:35:24] I did have a gentleman call me one day and asked me about it and I explained to him how it worked and he was

[1:35:29] he's uses it to this day. Every time we do this it's like, this is such a great thing that we have for our citizens and nobody

[1:35:36] a very few number of people use it. So while we increased in 2022 to a 104 clients

[1:35:43] that was up from 34 and 2021, assuming that had a COVID impact. In 2020 there was 114

[1:35:51] While it is now on the website, there's not a separate location that talks about, even if you

[1:36:00] in the search on the city site, if you put in discounted rides or transportation, grass

[1:36:05] doesn't come up.

[1:36:06] And if you don't know a grass stands for, you wouldn't know to put it in the search.

[1:36:12] So if we could put the link on the grass website, there's actually a place that says when

[1:36:19] across transportation.

[1:36:21] And so if we could get that wind-christ transportation

[1:36:27] social media information and put it on our website,

[1:36:30] I think that may help.

[1:36:32] And I also think on a regular basis,

[1:36:34] while I know it's been in the newsletter that it needs to be

[1:36:36] more frequent in the newsletter.

[1:36:39] I think every time we've done this,

[1:36:40] I said can we have it in the newsletter every day and time?

[1:36:44] I mean, this is a really good thing that we subsidize

[1:36:49] and people aren't using it as they should.

[1:36:51] I think.

[1:36:51] So people know it's for people to be able to go to the grocery store

[1:36:55] to go to their doctor's appointments at $5 at their time

[1:37:00] that's appropriate and then be picked up and taken back.

[1:37:04] So they don't have to use Uber or any of the other

[1:37:08] she'll have to meet certain, they do have to meet requirements

[1:37:11] and the application again is on that website

[1:37:14] on the grass, on the grass website, on how they go about doing that.

[1:37:22] Okay.

[1:37:22] Any other discussion?

[1:37:24] The only other was it expanded two years ago to go to, as I understand it, to

[1:37:29] BAMCEL.

[1:37:30] Yes, it did.

[1:37:36] Except the Resolution 2023 505 R as you're ready.

[1:37:43] City Council was reviewed.

[1:37:44] Please discuss me, Tication Resolution 2023506R, a resolution approving a grant application

[1:37:50] submitted by a State of Texas bullet resistance shield grant program FY 2023.

[1:37:59] I move the resolution 2023-506R.

[1:38:04] Move the second.

[1:38:05] We accept the resolution 2023-506R discussion.

[1:38:12] I appreciate that we have a grant.

[1:38:15] That's a good use of so many else this money.

[1:38:19] Well, no, it's tax dollars.

[1:38:21] So it's our money.

[1:38:23] But you get your share.

[1:38:25] Yeah.

[1:38:25] Could big fees.

[1:38:27] All right.

[1:38:28] All those in favor, raise your right hand.

[1:38:30] It's done.

[1:38:31] Item D. City Council reviewed.

[1:38:33] Discuss the May take action.

[1:38:34] Resolution 2023507 are resolution approving.

[1:38:38] removing the mercy purchase of new

[1:38:40] spill and flexed server.

[1:38:42] I know we accept the resolution 2023

[1:38:44] day, 507 R. Second.

[1:38:48] Second. Second that we accept the

[1:38:50] resolution 2023 507 R. Discussion.

[1:38:54] How quickly, if this, if this

[1:38:57] passes, how quickly can we get the

[1:38:59] update? Because I know it's a

[1:39:01] for urgency.

[1:39:04] I don't want to make

[1:39:05] commuters. Those are we're going to

[1:39:06] get it tomorrow, but we're going to go

[1:39:08] process, the purchase order and everything. Hopefully, I think it's

[1:39:13] said two weeks. But you know, I don't want to jinx us that it doesn't get

[1:39:20] exactly right. That's the reason I don't want to, but I know we're helping. Hopefully I'm

[1:39:24] going to say in 30 days it'll be up and running. So this is a five year we pay for

[1:39:30] five years. However, it made when the WCCPD meets later this year.

[1:39:38] Yes, hopefully we'll get reimbursed, which verbally I had a discussion with two of them

[1:39:43] and they said, bring it on. Now, I would not be surprised once we opened it up. We're

[1:39:49] going to need another 20 or 30,000 dollars for this or for that. And if it's within my range,

[1:39:54] I will go ahead and approve it. And if it's not, I'll probably do it anyway and then come

[1:39:59] back and back.

[1:40:00] Number five. But again, it's once you open it up.

[1:40:10] All those in favor, raise your hand. Thank you. All right, we're going to discuss an act.

[1:40:17] Number 11, city council reviews, let me take action. Act may act on a warning a contract for the dog fence, dark park fence.

[1:40:28] So at this point, I guess we would give direction to Mr. Young to receive with his recommendations.

[1:40:33] Yes, sir. We'll still come back with a resolution at the next meeting.

[1:40:37] go forth and get it done on court fets whatever do it and we don't need it we don't need to

[1:40:47] vote

[1:40:47] I've got the ball to get it

[1:40:50] City Councilor I'm number B City Council review this doesn't make take action act on

[1:40:56] City pool located at 5 o 6 windows so we keep talking about it figure out where we're going

[1:41:03] Now, it's fair.

[1:41:05] So, when we say that, do we give direction for hearts and

[1:41:11] wrecks to come back with something or something?

[1:41:15] I mean, I think that it might be a smart move to have them

[1:41:22] discuss it, maybe do a public hearing or something.

[1:41:25] I mean, because part of this is we do need to get men, but they do.

[1:41:29] You know, I mentioned splash pad.

[1:41:30] I mean, I think there should be some processes as quick as we can, recognizing that we've been

[1:41:36] a long time without a fool.

[1:41:37] At the last part to recommend, I did make some comments that there was going to be discussions

[1:41:41] here and that I was hoping that the council would tell me to take it back for them.

[1:41:46] Take it back to the question of the property use and, you know, for them to also agree that

[1:41:52] maybe it should be renovated or they might say, no, you shouldn't have renovated and

[1:41:56] can make whatever decisions you all want. But you know I'm saying but at least carry the

[1:42:02] the formality of the conversation of a project so we can move forward. It certainly is within

[1:42:06] the auspices of Parks and Rec. We would like them to go forth and discuss it and you make that

[1:42:13] happen and then let's do it again. We'll bring it back a report hopefully in one time time out time out.

[1:42:19] To me when you give it to Parks and Recs, that's looking at kind of the lengthening out the process

[1:42:25] to get things done. So can we have the city manager have a time limit?

[1:42:31] He said next month, we'll have a bite of the month.

[1:42:34] No, no, he'll have a bite of the month. He'll have a bite of the month.

[1:42:36] You think you're going to have a, a, we're going to take a

[1:42:39] to them at the next meeting. We already have it on the agenda.

[1:42:42] And you think you're going to get a rapid decision.

[1:42:46] So let's, well, show them the same presentation.

[1:42:50] Very smart person told me something. If you want something bad and fast, that's exactly how

[1:42:55] you're going to get it. And I'm not saying I think we need to expedite the process. But there's

[1:43:00] got to be a process. It would be okay, Mr. Young. This is a great idea. Go. All I'm saying is

[1:43:06] put a time limit on your process. I think that you know that we should give it the parts

[1:43:12] and rest with the understanding it needs to be expedited whatever that means. Because because

[1:43:17] we've already had people who mentioned they would be part of a group that could potentially

[1:43:22] to go out and find funding, that would be part of it.

[1:43:25] I do think that there needs to be some citizen input

[1:43:28] on what that is.

[1:43:31] But I don't disagree with the need for speed,

[1:43:36] but I do.

[1:43:39] I do.

[1:43:41] I do.

[1:43:42] I do.

[1:43:42] Well, I disagree with the need for speed.

[1:43:44] The pattern is full.

[1:43:46] So I do think we need to,

[1:43:48] with the understanding that we,

[1:43:51] for lack of a better,

[1:43:52] of what this happens sooner than later.

[1:43:53] We do not want this to be a six-month, you know, whatever it is.

[1:43:58] Maybe what we could recommend for them is to review this presentation and for them to

[1:44:03] be ready for the meeting when we discuss.

[1:44:05] Maybe we could also recommend for them to schedule a public hearing within the next, you

[1:44:10] know, 30 days from a moment they get it, they will come back or we'll even have a pre-app

[1:44:17] public survey or something, include it in what this whole deal of something.

[1:44:22] Let me tell you what, if we're going to do a survey because you know, I'm all in love with

[1:44:26] survey.

[1:44:26] We still have survey monthly on that.

[1:44:28] I think it's important to figure out because this is a real thing.

[1:44:34] It's X number of dollars.

[1:44:36] Yes, ma'am.

[1:44:37] Do you people want us to spend these dollars?

[1:44:39] How many dollars are you happy with this spending?

[1:44:42] If we're going to, are you cool with this?

[1:44:44] I mean, I don't think anybody's going to be cool with us floating about.

[1:44:48] I think that that is something nobody wants to do, just speaking from my feelings.

[1:44:53] But if you want a pool, a pool is going to cost this many dollars.

[1:45:00] We have all those dollars, so please help us decide how we go forward with this, so it doesn't sit

[1:45:07] around for another three years. And as I said, I think there are real places we can go and ask for money,

[1:45:15] but we need to decide how to do it.

[1:45:17] We will share with you all some of the questions that we're going to put in our survey to get some

[1:45:21] public input, which we'll share with the Parks and Rec, and within a couple of days from now.

[1:45:29] Okay. I'm fine with person Rex going at the end of the month because they don't need to

[1:45:33] end of the month. But I think there should be a plan about who is potentially out there

[1:45:40] that may donate in that city administration gets that plan together about who possibly we could

[1:45:47] contact. And even start some.

[1:45:54] And I'm not going to argue with you.

[1:45:56] I think you should rope EDC into this and I think that they should share with us what their

[1:46:02] opinions are on reaching out, but I also think you, and him, the dude there in the middle,

[1:46:08] should reach out to the commissioners, our commissioner, and I think you need to open some

[1:46:14] lines of communication and remind him that he promised a million bucks to fix the bullet

[1:46:18] why and those same people that went to the why come to wincrest and use this pool and we

[1:46:24] want to be all inclusive and we want to be available for anybody that wants to come and use our

[1:46:28] pool and if that's the way it's going to be his area here is so underrepresented doesn't have

[1:46:36] any pool facilities go look at what they have in in some other commissioners district and we

[1:46:42] don't have that here and I think it's important for us to take the steps necessary and talk

[1:46:47] commissioners court and talk to our county commissioner and find out what they're

[1:46:51] willing to bring to the table. And you know what, maybe it's also something that we

[1:46:55] should talk to with the school districts. They're going to use it and we're

[1:46:59] certainly happy to let that continue to happen. What what what can they bring to

[1:47:04] the table? Why don't you tell us how you really feel so that the dude in the

[1:47:08] middle will do that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do in the middle. I appreciate you.

[1:47:11] Thank you. The funding part is not hearts and reps. It's not so. I think that needs

[1:47:16] to separate we in the past.

[1:47:18] I agree.

[1:47:19] And so I like to do in the middle and that dude, those two.

[1:47:23] We got to do exactly right.

[1:47:24] They would come up with some sort of a plan for what it looks like.

[1:47:28] And then they would not be the funding.

[1:47:33] All right. Anything else?

[1:47:36] Got it.

[1:47:37] All right.

[1:47:40] I had a number of these in the Council of Davis,

[1:47:43] in May, to act on city of one Chris for teaching plan.

[1:47:51] Can we have that?

[1:47:59] I was just wondering, then, no, yes.

[1:48:04] We didn't get this information.

[1:48:08] We're going to present it, correct?

[1:48:09] I mean,

[1:48:13] isn't it?

[1:48:14] Isn't it, isn't it?

[1:48:16] If you all would like to review it again, we can bring it back at the next meeting.

[1:48:20] We have no problem.

[1:48:21] We have a lot more of partners.

[1:48:23] Go ahead and present it because we haven't gotten a presentation.

[1:48:27] Okay.

[1:48:27] Six months.

[1:48:29] Okay.

[1:48:30] I got this.

[1:48:34] Okay.

[1:48:34] I'm just going to, if there's a lot of language in this, so I'm just going to kind

[1:48:38] of highlight just some key points that we're waiting on directives from.

[1:48:43] So of course, you all know the strategic plan was launched in 2021.

[1:48:47] We did a survey and then based off those surveys, the City Council adopted a strategic plan that runs through 2023 and we are approaching the end of that plan.

[1:48:58] One of the cornerstone initiatives was infrastructure.

[1:49:02] One of them being a decision made on the swimming pool, so that directive has taken place today,

[1:49:07] meeting and when we're forward with that. The second initiative was also an assessment for staffing

[1:49:12] and space needs for city government. The next item on the agenda well discuss the RFP for

[1:49:19] these space utilization needs. We did not, we haven't brought forward the staffing one because I was

[1:49:26] given a new direction to add to that RFP and they do need to do be two separate ones because there

[1:49:31] consultants that are different for the both. We didn't want to limit the feedback.

[1:49:46] And then the other initiative was the assessment of IT department finances

[1:49:50] has been working on that. There was a discussion regarding the IT maintenance plan in our

[1:49:55] budget work sessions and improvements to our server and then...

[1:50:00] The PD servers, while we're moving forward with that initiative.

[1:50:04] The second infrastructure, cornerstone, was the creation and communication of street light maintenance

[1:50:10] plan. We have been able to send out website update, social media, door hangers, every time

[1:50:16] there's something done with our maintenance projects and our capital projects with regard

[1:50:21] to streets. The two that I am going to highlight is the installation of the new traffic light,

[1:50:25] Eagle Crest in Crestway and the second one moving forward that's going to begin next month is the 20 mile

[1:50:33] hour street labeling at various locations throughout the street, the city.

[1:50:38] We mainly focus in on Crestway and mid-crow.

[1:50:44] Aren't they already labeled? 21 miles are actually on the street.

[1:50:48] This is going to be on the street. It's not going to be on the street.

[1:50:51] Yes. It's not in any 3D thing, is it?

[1:50:54] We're not going to waste any more money on that.

[1:50:59] The other, one of the other initiatives under this was the improvement of the interest and aesthetics into windcrest, entrance gateways, while we're still working on that.

[1:51:10] We Council did adopt the purchase or approve the funding for the two digital boards and those are going to be, you'll start seeing the installation of those this month.

[1:51:22] for public service the second cornerstone we had several initiatives underneath here one of them was the

[1:51:29] revision of the website so you all have seen that and that is going to be an ongoing process the feasibility

[1:51:36] assessment of in-house emergency management and ambulance services this is still pinning directive

[1:51:42] and approval from city council the plan for city services south the walls of road and the business

[1:51:49] district is also pending directive and approval form city council discussions have continued have taken place and we'll continue on those.

[1:51:58] The third cornerstone is Parks and Recreation.

[1:52:02] There was the adoption of the Parks and Recreation Master Plan and Parks and Recreation Commission is continually doing working on that.

[1:52:10] And we also have one of the other big initiatives was the improvement of lighting throughout

[1:52:16] tax, tax, tax, park facilities.

[1:52:18] That initiative will be coming back to Council in March and we will be pinning directive

[1:52:24] in approval from Council then.

[1:52:29] Another initiative under Parks and Recreation was offering health and wellness activities

[1:52:34] in the parks.

[1:52:35] That has been a huge success with residents and non-residents.

[1:52:39] We continue to track those that are in attendance and we have gotten so much positive feedback

[1:52:45] through social media and direct emailing from people that are enjoying those classes.

[1:52:53] Then of course we also have the anticipated grant opening of the dog park.

[1:52:57] The Parks and Recreation Commission is discussed during the grant opening doing some kind of dog park walk

[1:53:02] to also incorporate the use of the newly renovated tech as part trails.

[1:53:09] we're looking at spring or summer for that and then the improvement of the

[1:53:13] tack is park walking trails and it's not a connectivity bridge but just kind of

[1:53:18] a connectivity walkway through the drainage ditch. A bridge was not any part of

[1:53:23] that incident that my apologies for that. Another one was the incorporation of

[1:53:29] public art and art activities. So Parks and Recreation Commission is going to be

[1:53:40] the 18th March 18th economic development. These are just some highlights that economic development

[1:53:47] provided to us. I didn't know if there's anything you want me to repeat but I don't this was

[1:53:54] provided from them so.

[1:53:59] And then I'm going to jump over to schools. That was another corner

[1:54:03] initiative. One is better understanding of schools, educational

[1:54:07] ratings, and safety issue. City staff, city departments, and

[1:54:12] department heads continue to work with meetings, discuss safety

[1:54:15] initiatives, they have routine fire safety drills and inspections,

[1:54:19] our food inspections, so we are working with them, as far as the

[1:54:24] engagement has definitely increased with the schools.

[1:54:27] Quarterly discussions between northeast and independent school district,

[1:54:30] charter schools in the city. That is an ongoing effort with the city manager, PD and fire.

[1:54:36] They hold regular meetings with the administration and staff. And then of course, Council

[1:54:41] working with the various Board of Directors or representatives of the city.

[1:54:44] Yeah. And one comment that I would like to make the Windcrest Elementary on their last

[1:54:49] rating is the and the Ed White Middle School is also a B. Just for the record. And I know

[1:54:59] that rose.

[1:55:00] What about high school is working on? They have a seat, but they're working on it.

[1:55:05] I'm the active shooter training that was in your report for next month. Is that going to include the schools?

[1:55:13] Or is it just within the department? With us only just within this.

[1:55:17] Right. So the second part of schools is offering community activities within schools.

[1:55:24] We've had the police department in fire department in public works presence with the

[1:55:29] assistant with a crosswalk after school activities, graduation ceremonies,

[1:55:35] participation, breakfast, wasana event, school field trips, and of course public works

[1:55:40] this is with the light up efforts.

[1:55:42] A regular discussion between Northeastern school district and charter schools that is ongoing

[1:55:48] continuous effort, and then the use of staff as mentors and volunteers, staff does participate

[1:55:56] in school activities, I believe it's more fire and PD, and then graduation events as well.

[1:56:06] Another cornerstone that was adopted within the Strategic Plan was marketing and communications.

[1:56:12] Again, highlighting on the revisions of the website, which have pretty much the launching page that

[1:56:18] has been redesigned.

[1:56:20] We've added some features in that.

[1:56:22] We also created an Instagram account that runs

[1:56:25] concurrent with our Facebook account.

[1:56:27] We launched text my guv with as a direct communication

[1:56:30] with staff during business hours.

[1:56:33] And it's a texting communication.

[1:56:37] Social media ads, which help promote our events,

[1:56:41] where we pay for certain ads to get boosted

[1:56:44] and go to the expanded surrounding areas.

[1:56:47] So, it's not just limited to hearing when pressed.

[1:56:55] The next initiative was the redesigned

[1:56:57] in production of the city's newsletter.

[1:56:59] That was initially adopted to be completed in 2022.

[1:57:03] However, that got pushed to 2023,

[1:57:06] with focusing on the efforts of the city webpage

[1:57:08] and the new messaging text mic of program launch.

[1:57:12] So, we are currently working on that.

[1:57:14] Staff is working on beginning

[1:57:17] and March working on designing the covers

[1:57:19] for each of the newsletters, and then also working on a new template for the newsletter, and

[1:57:26] then we will be researching the cost for in-house productions, similar to shirts, not

[1:57:31] not as big.

[1:57:32] I will say that, but just producing it in-house.

[1:57:35] How's that name of that city in the same city?

[1:57:39] They did shrink through.

[1:57:41] Yeah, it is smaller.

[1:57:42] Cost of being, that's what they told me.

[1:57:45] So we're gathering data on that and looking at how we would manage the sales of ads to help

[1:57:52] offset the cost of that.

[1:57:56] And then one of the things that we're tossing around is eventually, even whether we do it

[1:58:00] in a house or not, is naming, because that came up too within the strategic plan, giving the

[1:58:06] newsletter a name.

[1:58:10] Also waiting for us newsletter is good.

[1:58:15] We thought it was.

[1:58:18] Let me ask you one quick question before we move on.

[1:58:23] I know that we've got somebody who is a social media person.

[1:58:27] That's part of their job now, right?

[1:58:29] Is it a percentage of the job?

[1:58:32] Yeah.

[1:58:32] A percentage.

[1:58:33] So I'm just going to suggest that perhaps we look into

[1:58:39] getting that person trained, there's all kinds of stuff available through through this

[1:58:45] the TMLN on, because I can post stuff on Facebook all day long. That is not what

[1:58:52] this job should be. This job should be knowing how to use those social media outlets to

[1:59:00] do things, to promote the city and what people don't understand and I certainly

[1:59:08] don't understand it. It isn't taking a picture and putting it on Instagram and isn't posting

[1:59:14] something on Facebook. That is not what that social media coordinator should be doing. And

[1:59:23] if the person that we hired doesn't have the experience in background to know how to do that job,

[1:59:29] then we need to get them trained to do that job. Because this is an incredibly important part of just

[1:59:37] being able to get our information out using that avenue.

[1:59:43] Correct.

[1:59:44] So we are members of Tamio.

[1:59:47] And so that's where we're going to take

[1:59:48] the right acronym, which is the Texas

[1:59:51] Minister of Public Information Officers Association.

[1:59:55] So we are doing a lot of training through them as well.

[2:00:00] And that is really the avenue to do it because of the legalities involved with social media.

[2:00:07] So, along with marketing and communications, we have the branding and signage for the city.

[2:00:14] We've really come up with the branding of the colors that we're previously used.

[2:00:19] We've identified those numbers, and we're continuing to move forward to only utilize those colors with any publications of the city.

[2:00:28] We've redesigned the business cards, we have the sign, the city sign, the city sign within City Hall.

[2:00:35] And we are looking at purchasing one for here in the chambers as well to replace the board.

[2:00:44] Do you go into the city museum?

[2:00:47] Yes.

[2:00:47] Don't be getting rid of it.

[2:00:49] No, we're going to save it.

[2:00:51] And then, of course, in the upcoming months, we'll be looking at redesigning the letterhead, the email signatures,

[2:00:57] and then, of course, once the digital message boards get installed, then we'll be moving forward with that too.

[2:01:08] So our next steps, because we are at the end of the process with the strategic plan,

[2:01:12] some of them will go further into 2023, is really, you know, what is the next step Council wants to give direction for future planning,

[2:01:20] begin the process for RFP for consultant to work on the development of a comprehensive

[2:01:26] master economic master plan with EDC or just continuing with creating a strategic plan

[2:01:33] for 2023-2026.

[2:01:36] I have a question.

[2:01:39] I'm going back to the very first page where you were talking about staffing and interiors

[2:01:46] But what needs to be done now to I don't know

[2:01:53] It's the next item. I

[2:01:57] mean, are you looking for direction? Yes, well, obviously we would like you to get an

[2:02:20] conference of economic master plan. That would be a good thing. And I think that and I don't

[2:02:26] know of everybody agrees, but I think the strategic plan was an excellent idea. Then COVID

[2:02:31] happened. And so some of the stuff didn't get done. And I think that it only makes sense to

[2:02:38] continue the strategic plan, creating it, extending through 26 or whatever, and every all want to do.

[2:02:45] Do we make a comprehensive to include WDC?

[2:02:49] I think that it is, I think we need a economic master plan.

[2:02:54] And I think obviously, WEDC has a big old chunk of our tax dollars,

[2:03:00] and that needs to be part of any decisions moving forward spending money.

[2:03:05] I think that as Rafael said, we're going to talk about a pool.

[2:03:10] Let's, WEDC needs to be part of that plan because they've got a big bucket of cash

[2:03:15] and we need to find out if it makes sense and if that fits within their required, you know,

[2:03:24] dictates of how they can use money, then I think, I think WDC needs to be in everything we do

[2:03:31] when we talk about spending money. I think when we go to a agenda item that's going to be coming

[2:03:35] up soon about, about light up. That is a WDC thing and it needs to be part of it.

[2:03:42] And the big plus is they're the ones that are in contact with all the drivers all the economic

[2:03:49] drivers. So without their input the plane would be lacking the economic plan.

[2:03:59] Economic plan would be. And I guess that's what I'd like you know. So what do you see is a different

[2:04:04] I'm just treating an economic plan and because there are, I don't know if they call them strategic plans,

[2:04:13] but there are cities who could a master plan together.

[2:04:16] We start with the master plan, from the master plan, we get a portion of it and make a strategic

[2:04:23] on the immediate goals that we want to meet.

[2:04:25] Remember that the strategic plan is going to be a five or seven year plan.

[2:04:28] And from there, we're going to get the one year performance goals measurements that we're

[2:04:33] trying to reach, or two years, and we'll put them in whatever packages you all want, and

[2:04:40] some of them will be three months or six months, but that's where we start with this, in my opinion.

[2:04:46] Yeah, but if you go to a city, but let's say live oak and ask them, did you do a master plan?

[2:04:55] And they would say yes, they would say it costs $150,000.

[2:05:00] Now, I don't know where that fits into. Like you got a master plan. The economic master plan is not that, right?

[2:05:09] It's this economic plan is something different.

[2:05:14] I think it ties in together, mayor, depends. It's kind of like the RFP that we're going to do right now is what you want to put into it to meet the needs of your community.

[2:05:24] you know I'm saying for my my opinion here we've got we we are at the point where

[2:05:32] the 110 acre development that we had west I mean it should me south of

[2:05:38] Walsham okay from the CCU's and on CCU's which is the Liding Industrial

[2:05:43] Warehouses that is pretty much a complete project you have one more item to

[2:05:48] discuss this evening inside the executive session so that's complete but we also

[2:05:53] have 67 acres that are on the market right now. So we need to know what are we going to do,

[2:05:59] what's the plan with those? How does all this fall in and then it all ties in to our operation

[2:06:06] of where we're going and what we're going to do? You know, we might turn into, I know this sounds

[2:06:12] being a little sarcastic, but at the same time, if you go down winding way, winding way,

[2:06:18] where we had the golf lane right now that's being

[2:06:21] restructed again, maybe some of that development on the other

[2:06:25] side might be linked to some kind of golf cart lanes or

[2:06:30] walking trails or something else that ties in to that

[2:06:34] development. You know, some of the improvements that are tied

[2:06:38] in with with Walsham with tech stock, you know, like for

[2:06:42] us, we already paid 95% of our streets, but what have we

[2:06:47] done the last time text I did an improvement was 11 years ago at the Dillon Mill in Overlay.

[2:06:54] How do we connect all that to the new development that they're bringing on top?

[2:06:59] Where are we going with this?

[2:07:01] And that gives us marching orders, do we need more manpower for public safety, do we need more

[2:07:07] manpower for public works?

[2:07:10] It's all ties in together and then from there we set up our goals, our performance measures

[2:07:16] on whatever increments you want, whether you want them on 30 days, 60 day, 90 days or

[2:07:23] or year or six months.

[2:07:25] That's what I think this is important for us.

[2:07:29] And we've been talking about it for several years, but I think we're at the point where we

[2:07:34] did the three years of teaching plan, now we've got to get ready for the real thing.

[2:07:41] We've proven to y'all that we can do it.

[2:07:43] You know, the newsletter was the number one source of communication to everybody here.

[2:07:48] We know that.

[2:07:50] We know that.

[2:07:51] And we put that one at the back burner because we're going to have to be very cautious

[2:07:55] and follow every step we take how we're going to improve our newsletter.

[2:08:00] You know, I know that right now we contract that out on their ads.

[2:08:04] We're going to look at it from our side if we can do that.

[2:08:07] But do we believe that one part time employee or two part time employees

[2:08:11] are going to put all that together, or is it going to take more manpower to do that when

[2:08:16] we start really printing this thing out. Or is the population changing that they don't

[2:08:23] need to newsletter anymore as you saw three years ago, I got to understand we don't

[2:08:30] even alley garbage pick up either. Oh, I got your tenure contract is coming right now. But

[2:08:34] what I'm trying to say is we just need some kind of guidance of what we're going there.

[2:08:43] And so I understand it, so if I'm looking at these bullets, I understand the first bullet.

[2:08:49] Why don't we go to the EDC and ask them to do a comprehensive master plan?

[2:08:53] Based on what you just said, what's your recommendation to the council to do next?

[2:08:57] I would say that you get me whether it's a resolution in larger cities, y'all pass a resolution.

[2:09:04] And I take it to them.

[2:09:05] Or you're doing discussing that and I take it to them.

[2:09:07] I just, yes, do a comprehensive economic master plan.

[2:09:12] And in larger cities, they pass a resolution

[2:09:14] and I take it and deliver it and they answer to it.

[2:09:17] If you're verbally, then they don't.

[2:09:19] Everything in writing works a little better.

[2:09:24] OK, and I guess I would, I need to better understand

[2:09:28] what the product called a comprehensive economic plan is.

[2:09:33] Now that we discussed it, we can go do some research

[2:09:36] and bring you different packages

[2:09:37] of what, you know, what is it that you want to build out of it?

[2:09:41] So I think that just from my experience, what we're looking at is to take the dynamic that we have now, which is basically going to the Manhattan Hand and saying, please may we have some more porridge.

[2:09:57] And saying, we don't want to do that anymore. We want you.

[2:10:00] We want these things, and we want you to be part of funding these things. And we're going to kind of, kind of, kind of, say ear ears are ideas.

[2:10:10] Here's the reason we want to pull. And we want to figure out how to pay for a pull, and we want you all to be part of that.

[2:10:15] We want to, do we want, whatever it is.

[2:10:18] Whatever the plan is.

[2:10:19] Whatever the plan is.

[2:10:21] All right. I may be on the only one here, but I need to understand what that document does.

[2:10:27] we will work, and we will bring you back by the next meeting, a couple of proposals.

[2:10:34] I'm not lying in that line.

[2:10:36] I can tell you what I heard you say was what I typically hear when a city does a master

[2:10:44] plan.

[2:10:45] Yes, sir.

[2:10:46] That's what I heard you say.

[2:10:47] When you're talking about, you know, now I don't know what the master, I know kind of

[2:10:53] what a master plan is, which is what I think you told us.

[2:10:56] I don't know, and you come back and tell us what a economic master plan, what is it, how

[2:11:02] is that different?

[2:11:03] That's what I need to know, and I'm sure the rest of the council does, what's the difference

[2:11:09] because in my senses, and I don't know this, that the city of whatever, LIBO, covers whatever,

[2:11:17] doesn't go to their EDC or they have something equivalent and say, providing master plan.

[2:11:23] And they might do an economic mess, whatever that is, but they're not going to come back

[2:11:27] and do a mess.

[2:11:28] So it seems to me that my concept of a master plan is on us and I know we sort of did it

[2:11:38] for lack of a better word on the cheap with the strategic plan that we did.

[2:11:44] I just need to understand.

[2:11:46] Let us work on something.

[2:11:48] We will bring you back some suggestions.

[2:11:50] Okay. And then we can word it whatever the council decides to word it. But overall it's

[2:12:00] goals for the future of where we want to be. And okay, you know, how we're going to get there.

[2:12:08] Perfect. Thank you, sir.

[2:12:11] We're information to follow. I understand that. Yes, sir. You got it.

[2:12:18] I'm going to go up the trend of one because apparently that one I have may be wrong.

[2:12:23] City Council review discuss a may act on consideration on a request for consideration services to conduct space,

[2:12:31] spatialization study.

[2:12:33] City Hall is identified in adopted 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20,

[2:12:37] city of Winchester, TG Plan.

[2:12:42] So, Mayor and Council, we provided for you a very rough draft of an RFP that we have been working on.

[2:12:49] As you can see, it is a very large document because it is a large scope of work, which is going to encompass all of the square footage within city hall, the square footage on the two trailers.

[2:13:03] So within the RFP, basically, just I'm just going to kind of read the first three bullet points or the first two.

[2:13:19] storage and additional employees so as to possibly defer additional construction activities.

[2:13:25] In addition, the consultant may propose automation and electronic or other techniques,

[2:13:31] which may serve to provide efficiency, a file, and storage space within a cost of beneficial

[2:13:37] benefit analysis. The space optimization analyst, excuse me, analysis should evaluate how to

[2:13:49] exists, focus on the city, on city office department and city council chambers, post office

[2:13:55] occupied space needs with consideration for prep or use of tenant occupied space.

[2:14:01] This includes not just workspace, but back room space such as the phone electronic IT

[2:14:08] closets.

[2:14:10] This part of the study would also be where any structural changes such as lofts, wall changes

[2:14:16] and or additions could be proposed. On the second page it starts with the breakdown of the square

[2:14:25] footage that encompasses for each department.

[2:14:30] So for the city secretaries office the total square

[2:14:34] footage is which is city secretary and municipal court. So it's administration and municipal court

[2:14:42] offices, that is at, I want to say it's a thousand, that's a misprint. So it's a thousand square feet.

[2:14:53] Municipal Court, excuse me, municipal finance department, encompasses 426 square.

[2:15:00] Gover激, Police Department encompasses 4,694 square feet. Fire department. This does include the firebase

[2:15:10] so just keep that in mind as a tool, and the dorms. And the dorms. Total square footage of 8,504 team. And then the post office is 173.

[2:15:23] And we also gave a breakdown for the conference rooms and the chambers.

[2:15:31] We're just kind of looking at direction if City Council, because it was a strategic,

[2:15:36] it is a cornerstone initiative within the strategic plan.

[2:15:40] If Council wants us to move forward with continuing with the RFP process, working with legal,

[2:15:47] this is a special project, and fine-tuning this RFP, and then post-tune it.

[2:15:54] Okay, let me ask just a real simple question here, because I've been through a few of these.

[2:16:00] This is not a cheap process.

[2:16:02] The RFP is not going to be a cheap process process.

[2:16:05] I get that it's necessary.

[2:16:07] I get that we don't have adequate space.

[2:16:10] I get that if we are compared to other municipalities, with the number of people that work

[2:16:15] and blah, blah, blah, blah. We are not going to have adequate space for the people that work to do their job.

[2:16:21] But there is one pie and there is only a certain number of slices of it.

[2:16:27] And I think the council needs to make a hard decision.

[2:16:32] Is the pool everything we care about?

[2:16:34] Because we don't have the money to do a whole bunch of stuff.

[2:16:38] So if I'm not arguing that this isn't necessary I'm not arguing that I'm not I'm not fighting with you Raphael

[2:16:46] I am I am simply saying that yes, there there was a group of people and decisions were made and this was in a cornerstone of something that really needed to be taken care of

[2:16:56] But do we right now want to say go forward and spend some more money on something that

[2:17:04] Are we realistically going to fix any time in the near future?

[2:17:09] future. What's the cost of the, when you say cost of the RFP? Well, we still need legal

[2:17:18] to review it. Right. And then for us to put it on the, on the newspaper and web pages, just

[2:17:25] not even initial cost of doing all that, then when we actually get A. Yes. So make, so, so let's just say

[2:17:33] us $10,000. So for $5,000, I'll tell you, we don't have a space.

[2:17:38] How to go for free? I just said, I just said, we don't like this.

[2:17:42] I mean, so that's what I'm trying to get across to you, and I like your thought because what

[2:17:48] we're going to find out is we don't have a space. Yes, sir. Now, we have a lot of men out here.

[2:17:53] Second thought, which I think may be even more important. What are we going to do about it? Nothing.

[2:17:58] Because I promise you, if we came up here and said, never mind about the pool,

[2:18:03] I'm going to build a second story on City Hall, so Rafael can have a bigger office and the fire department can have more more space and the PD can have more space because they need it and we know that's true and so no pool.

[2:18:18] Do you want to go down that road?

[2:18:20] I don't know.

[2:18:20] And I don't know.

[2:18:21] That's why I asked about the cost.

[2:18:23] Is it worth?

[2:18:26] At least identifying what that number is, realizing we can't fix.

[2:18:30] And I don't know what that cost is.

[2:18:33] Well, I mean, we know it's more space with the question than

[2:18:38] as how much is it going to cost.

[2:18:40] Because at some point, you know, if some big company

[2:18:46] moves over to the 67 acres that we have available for anyone out there

[2:18:51] who has got a great location at a wonderful place, if you're listening.

[2:18:58] And that produces, you know, a bunch of sales tax, et cetera.

[2:19:06] Now, maybe the answer is, you wait until that happens.

[2:19:08] Yeah, let's not bet on the go because we don't have that.

[2:19:11] If you, any numbers you get today are going to be obsolete next month.

[2:19:16] Exactly.

[2:19:17] But my point is, I think, from previous experience, just getting to the point where you're

[2:19:25] point where we let an RFP, just getting to that point where we get it out there, we've spent

[2:19:32] a chunk of money.

[2:19:33] How much is it cost to advertise in the paper?

[2:19:39] For this, it probably would be about $3,000.

[2:19:44] $3,000.

[2:19:45] That's just to get the advertisement in the newspaper one time.

[2:19:49] So, I mean, we're talking about a big chunk of money and ultimately, when we, when we float the thing and we get, we get people to come in and give us estimates, it's going to be...

[2:20:00] Tens of thousands of dollars to come in here and with their expertise, tell us we don't have enough space.

[2:20:06] And the thing is that this is a real thing. We know there are numbers that exist that you should have 200 square feet and you should have 500 square feet.

[2:20:15] So basically we know that we can go find it. I can Google it and tell you how many square feet you should have.

[2:20:22] But we're just basically going to say, okay, we're going to spend a lot of money to put this out there.

[2:20:28] And then we're going to have people come tell us that they want us to pay them even more

[2:20:32] money to tell us what the answer is, which is, we don't have enough space.

[2:20:37] We don't meet the minimum qualifications for the amount of space we're supposed to have.

[2:20:41] And oh, by the way, I can't tell you what it's going to cost.

[2:20:44] I can just tell you, you don't have enough.

[2:20:46] So, oh, well, let's do another RFP to find out how it's just going to cost us to get the space

[2:20:51] we need.

[2:20:51] So, there's another few hundred thousand dollars.

[2:20:54] You're right.

[2:20:55] I know.

[2:20:55] And we have it on the agenda because it's a lot of man hours.

[2:21:00] Yeah, oh yeah, on top of everything y'all got to do just to freaking meet with these people and get done when needs to get done.

[2:21:05] Well basically just to get to the bottom line and move on here.

[2:21:09] We already know the answers to the question and we don't want to pay for it.

[2:21:12] Somebody can confirm me.

[2:21:13] No right now.

[2:21:14] I don't see what it's what represents her.

[2:21:17] I agree.

[2:21:17] That's what I'm saying.

[2:21:19] We already know the answer.

[2:21:20] So why do we need to pay somebody to tell us?

[2:21:22] We just pot and put it on the next strategic plan.

[2:21:25] Yep, that's new to later day.

[2:21:26] Well, we're fine.

[2:21:28] I will say thank you for this, and I'm saying it because you have looked at what we had asked for,

[2:21:33] and this is what we asked for, so thank you for bringing that to us.

[2:21:38] We're using this in public works in their offices and their place, and then also there's

[2:21:46] an office at the State Center that's not included.

[2:21:50] Right.

[2:21:52] Good catch. Correct.

[2:21:54] All right. Any other discussion or desire to get the, I think the direction is

[2:22:01] cold. All right. City Council review discuss and make

[2:22:06] take action on the budget amendment for allocated funds for upgrade to cities,

[2:22:11] record management program,

[2:22:17] aka laser fish.

[2:22:20] So this is a proposal for our current records management program. It's the software

[2:22:25] and which we hold and store all of our records for the city.

[2:22:30] This is just upgrading it and making it cloud-based.

[2:22:33] Currently we pay about $11,000 annually.

[2:22:37] This upgrade will actually reduce our annual cost by about $3,000.

[2:22:43] And bring it down to a little over $7,000.

[2:22:46] We had to bring it to City Council because the upfront cost for the migration is 26,000.

[2:22:58] So

[2:23:03] this is basically just upgrading the current software that we already have.

[2:23:08] And it's a one time fee.

[2:23:12] So then the next time we renew the contract, it'll be at the $7,000 rate.

[2:23:17] Oh, just do it.

[2:23:18] And so tell, it takes over.

[2:23:21] So what this program is is all of the, because we are initiative is to go digital at 100%.

[2:23:28] percent. It's storing all of those records. It allows us to code each record and set its

[2:23:35] timeline to it. The upgrade also for my understanding what I have been told it allows us

[2:23:41] to create a library which is easily accessible for the public in some cases in research.

[2:23:49] And it eliminates a lot of storage hardware. Yes, it does. This all makes it cloud-based so it gets off

[2:23:55] server. So basically you're looking for some blessing to proceed and back again.

[2:24:00] It's above my spending authority. So we just want to, if you all agree, we'll come back

[2:24:04] with the Result. I'll probably sign it and proceed but bring you my Result.

[2:24:07] We'll ratify it next evening. But the total cost of, with the migration and the annual cost is

[2:24:14] at 33,400, it's $26.00. And at the March meeting, can you come back with any changes that we've

[2:24:23] We're working on a budget amendment already, this is one of them that will be included in it.

[2:24:28] As you recall, we started with the fire ambulance service.

[2:24:31] No, yes, we have a time.

[2:24:33] Without getting too deep into laser fish, do they provide any kind of hard backup?

[2:24:43] Is everything just in the cloud it's done?

[2:24:45] It is in the cloud, and I would assume they'd back it up.

[2:24:52] There's another cloud in the cloud.

[2:24:55] We're getting rid of the hard copy that's all you know.

[2:24:58] No, remember.

[2:25:00] We do have backups here at City Hall. We have one here and one over there and then it goes to the cloud. So we have our internal, but this is taking it to the next level.

[2:25:09] And taking documents off our server.

[2:25:13] Niners, most of the boxes are missing.

[2:25:15] Yes, they did pick up all of the boxes that we had. So.

[2:25:19] Friday, more.

[2:25:19] We're in the process of getting destroyed and scanned.

[2:25:27] So we can move forward.

[2:25:29] Yeah, I feel comfortable with that. Thank you.

[2:25:31] to the Council, we discussed a may act on options for landscaping and drain space maintenance for FYI,

[2:25:38] 2324.

[2:25:40] Last year, we brought this item up to go out for bids.

[2:25:44] And we said that we would consider staying with the contract.

[2:25:49] In January, we received a letter from them that we're going to increase it on additional 10%.

[2:25:58] I know that part of me is saying, well, I like to stick with it.

[2:26:04] I do not want to rattle the cage too much, but I think it's time that maybe we should

[2:26:07] go and see what the market has to offer for this operation here.

[2:26:13] Are we always not going to go down?

[2:26:14] I know that, but you know, at least yes.

[2:26:19] and

[2:26:22] the current contract is what is it it is in September of the of 23 yes

[2:26:31] okay so you you're sick the staff wants to go to tell me not to do it but you're

[2:26:37] going to go out for beds or yeah we're in the water I know I agree now that being

[2:26:46] because this has happened before.

[2:26:53] I don't want to get the question.

[2:26:57] I might not want it.

[2:26:58] And I taught you that, don't ever ask a question.

[2:27:01] You don't know the answer.

[2:27:02] We could look into that.

[2:27:04] We did it.

[2:27:04] We analyzed it about seven years ago.

[2:27:06] Eight years ago.

[2:27:07] We could look at it again.

[2:27:11] But like I said, it is a little hesitation.

[2:27:16] But I got to bring it to you all and let you all.

[2:27:17] City

[2:27:22] Council reviewed, discussing the May Act on San Antonio Express to use Northeast

[2:27:26] Harold distribution.

[2:27:27] I promise that.

[2:27:28] Because I have had more than one person who does not want the San Antonio Express

[2:27:34] news here.

[2:27:38] In their contact information, they make it, and peer is though you can decide not to have

[2:27:48] that news date.

[2:27:50] I would say the answer has been mixed reviews and I've had more than one person who's not happy

[2:27:58] that they have reached out, they've said they're not going to deliver it, and they still

[2:28:04] deliver it.

[2:28:05] So, I don't know what actions the council or the city can do.

[2:28:12] I don't want to get rid of it because my sense is that there's a whole lot more people

[2:28:17] that wanted than the few that don't. So what can the city, what, what, what a

[2:28:23] thorny does a city have to, for instance, say, at this, I don't know. I'm just

[2:28:29] telling you this dude, right here. What is this even our, our business?

[2:28:34] Because there's a citizens who have, of course, I understand that, but I mean, we

[2:28:38] don't have, we can't control. We don't know that. We're going to ask this guy

[2:28:41] I'm asking if what authority, what the power does the city have to enforce that or

[2:28:49] force whatever.

[2:28:49] So the delivery of non-subscription, the delivery of non-subscription newspapers

[2:28:55] is a highly protected first amendment activity.

[2:29:00] And to the extent the city wants to pass any regulations or ordinances, it cannot prohibit

[2:29:07] delivery of the people, but it can target, you know, a negative

[2:29:15] externalities of the delivery. So if you have a lot of papers

[2:29:17] moving out, there's literal ordinances. It really depends on what

[2:29:23] city wants to do, but we do have to tread carefully on not directly

[2:29:28] targeting or prohibiting the delivery of non-strish and being okay. So just

[2:29:33] because this is the question that was asked me, and I'm sure I think I know

[2:29:36] answer it, but I'm still going to ask the question.

[2:29:39] You go ahead.

[2:29:40] A person said, I don't want that newspaper on my property.

[2:29:45] And the paper has said, okay, I won't put that newspaper on your property.

[2:29:50] And then the newspaper shows up.

[2:29:53] Is that lettering?

[2:29:59] That is-

[2:30:00] It's an interesting question to answer. If I threw it in the street, it would be literary.

[2:30:05] If I took it off my property, no matter how I felt about it being there and threw it under the street, I am literary.

[2:30:13] That's a good question, especially if they did expressly not, say they don't want the paper.

[2:30:22] I would have to look in that a little bit more, but I would say it would be pretty hard to determine

[2:30:28] what's litter and what's actually delivered paper when you're just looking at it in that kind of

[2:30:33] fashion.

[2:30:34] And then who do you go after?

[2:30:36] The person who threw it in your yard or the newspaper?

[2:30:39] I mean, the newspaper is going to say, I didn't give it to you.

[2:30:42] No, that's what they probably will in the sand.

[2:30:44] Of course, they will end up saying that.

[2:30:46] And the fact is, at what point do we just say, we're not going to spend any more money on this.

[2:30:51] Go throw it away.

[2:30:52] Now, the council wants to use it for your cat letter box.

[2:30:54] Are that?

[2:30:55] But the council wants us looking to options on possibly coming up with an ordinance to maybe assist in that specific issue that you just brought up.

[2:31:10] look, but it's very hard to regulate.

[2:31:14] That's like the quintessential first amendment activity.

[2:31:19] Okay, let me ask you a question, and I agree with you, I thought lettering we could cover that way,

[2:31:23] just for kicks. But bottom line is you got a handful of people saying they don't want to pay for

[2:31:31] correct? Yes. Maybe how many? I don't know. But I can guarantee just like you said,

[2:31:37] there's going to be 20 times as many that want the paper, and why should we spend money

[2:31:44] to work out something, I don't know, this is ridiculous, why we're even discussing this.

[2:31:49] So let's not talk about it.

[2:31:50] Somebody talk to him about it.

[2:31:51] I'm just wondering how we got through it.

[2:31:53] It isn't.

[2:31:54] It is important to certain people, so the term ridiculous is probably not a problem.

[2:32:01] But what I said was, I'll ask, what I'm hearing is, it's really hard to do that.

[2:32:07] Yeah, and so we would have to spend we the city would have to spend a

[2:32:12] My name is a amount of time to get a attorney to give us a

[2:32:17] Four nests that they're probably would be hard to enforce or

[2:32:23] Could be we could be sued because it was unconstitutional and then we spent some more lawyer dollars

[2:32:29] She's been going to the lawyers. Why not just a phone call from the city?

[2:32:34] manager to nor of these terrible management to see what they can do.

[2:32:41] I get it.

[2:32:44] So we've done it.

[2:32:47] So I guess my next action was I'll maybe I'll start making some fun.

[2:32:51] I mean, like I said, like anything else, people have come to me as income to you and

[2:32:56] said, here's my problem.

[2:32:57] And I will tell you, just for the sake of interesting conversation, I did have a person who didn't want it.

[2:33:06] They were not happy with that. That it was still delivered.

[2:33:12] That person gathered up a lot of papers around their area and placed them in front of my mailbox.

[2:33:21] Now, all I did, which is what most of us is throw it away.

[2:33:26] So anyway.

[2:33:27] So my point is there are people who are passionate about this.

[2:33:29] So I hope you put it in recycling and didn't throw it away.

[2:33:32] So where I feel we are now, I don't think the council wants to spend additional lawyer time to worry about this.

[2:33:41] The city manager and I will continue to work on.

[2:33:43] We got to pull the pay for it.

[2:33:46] Okay, that's fine.

[2:33:47] So basically what happened was this person went in the trust fast on everybody's yarns took their paper and put it straight down

[2:33:54] Don't much paper. We've got them off the street

[2:33:57] And it doesn't make a difference. My point is there are people who pass in about that. So actually if I take all the papers that I have stepped in my yard

[2:34:06] I can bring them to your house and you'll throw them away for me. Is that what you're telling us?

[2:34:11] Thank you. We'll call me. I'll go pick them up. I'm pretty sure.

[2:34:14] between Raphael and I. Yeah, we will. I think you are great people. So good. So. You are truly

[2:34:19] here. You've got to get a list of the people that don't want it. So you can go right on third.

[2:34:23] I've done it before. Let's go. I know where we are. And so the next item is also mine.

[2:34:32] As many know, I do a coffee with the mayor. There's been some very good ideas that have come

[2:34:39] that this I believe is a good idea,

[2:34:43] a place to have naming a non-employed volunteer to coordinate

[2:34:53] volunteers within the city, because I know, and I know people here know, there are lots of people who would want to help.

[2:35:00] Do whatever. It might be light at this. It might be Fourth of July. It might be.

[2:35:03] Do you pick it up, Newspapers?

[2:35:04] I do, Newspapers.

[2:35:07] And so what I would like to do is create this non-employed volunteer coordinator, have that person have

[2:35:16] an email that's associated with the city, and then that person be the person who would bring in

[2:35:24] or have the information and then if there's an event like light up or for the job, whatever would do the coordinating of, okay, is anyone out here who wants to help with light up or wants to help with the pool or whatever, and so would be a volunteer position, I do have a person in mind that I have reached out to, who said that she would be willing to do us, she does have actually interesting and have some,

[2:35:53] of promotion experience, it would be a volunteer position, so what I'd like to do is establish

[2:36:03] that position with an email and the person who I have reached out to is Anita Koch and

[2:36:09] she is a resident who has said she would be willing to serve in that capacity.

[2:36:16] And she's higher than she did not have to see how the community, and then once that person gets the information like a position, a job, a written, what they're going to do,

[2:36:28] they're going to interface with the different departments, because these are all different departments that are doing the different items.

[2:36:34] Right. If you get that email, I sent you about the, uh, the, uh,

[2:36:40] placards for the house for, uh, no, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying,

[2:36:47] that can be more of an ideal situation for this. No, I, that's why I said,

[2:36:52] I think there are several. So Raphael, can you please get with HR, Natalia,

[2:36:58] whoever's doing that now? And come up with some kind of job description. So we can take a look at

[2:37:03] as soon as possible and move forward with creating the position and maybe talk to legal and make sure that

[2:37:10] that we're cool with everything we're doing because giving somebody a city email got it got to make

[2:37:16] sure we're dotting our eyes and crossing our tees. And I would say my perception of that would be

[2:37:23] It would go through the self-sacrifice.

[2:37:27] Sure.

[2:37:27] And it would be a list of duties.

[2:37:29] I'm sorry.

[2:37:30] A list of duties.

[2:37:31] Not a job.

[2:37:33] Well, yeah.

[2:37:34] Thank you.

[2:37:35] OK, a job.

[2:37:36] But yeah.

[2:37:36] I would say through the city manager, not through the city secretary,

[2:37:40] because when it would go through, if they have issues,

[2:37:42] they need to get with a particular director.

[2:37:46] I can work.

[2:37:47] OK.

[2:37:47] I can work with them.

[2:37:48] All right.

[2:37:48] I just want approval of the concept.

[2:37:51] I love the concept.

[2:38:00] This does go along those that concept is we would like to on the first of March and the fourth of March have and this would be a city event, so we, you know, depending on where we are with this coordinator position, and the city would mail out something to residents.

[2:38:23] to encourage them to come to two meetings, one would be on the fourth of March and the

[2:38:28] evening.

[2:38:28] I'm sorry, first of March and the evening, which is Wednesday and a mid-morning on

[2:38:35] the fourth of March.

[2:38:36] For the purpose of having people come and identify themselves as someone who might want

[2:38:42] to volunteer with the city and then provide some information regarding what they have

[2:38:48] in my field of service.

[2:38:49] City. So start it with that.

[2:38:52] Anyone. Cool. Great. That is all. Awesome idea. City Council will discuss to make

[2:38:57] a and may act on assignment of responsibilities and duties for when Chris light up seasons

[2:39:02] and events. And what I love is that followed your volunteer thing because basically we've

[2:39:09] discussed with people throughout the community about the necessity of creating a better

[2:39:19] way to deal with light up here. I think one of the suggestions was having more people volunteering

[2:39:29] to help with things. I think one of the other things that was discussed is perhaps determining

[2:39:36] who has responsibility to do what. And figuring out what organizations are best suited to do

[2:39:44] part of that entire event. And I think that one of the things, I think that this is a big giant subject

[2:39:53] and we're not sure where any one thing is going to go yet. But I think one of the suggestions that was brought up, which I

[2:40:00] One hundred percent in support of is punching this department for the purpose of having a public meeting, where people can come up and tell us what they think needs to happen for this event, which has become. And I think always has been the win-gress event. This is a city event, this is made our city, this is the thing that we are known for, and we need to make it better, and we need to make it more inclusive.

[2:40:30] And I think that beginning with Parks and Rec, allowing them to listen to what the community wants.

[2:40:39] Listen to how this needs to evolve to include and be more inclusive of the other organizations within the city is the first step to make that happen.

[2:40:49] And I think that what we're going to probably find out is that the people that actually actively take part in this year after year.

[2:40:59] And really decorate and really come forward and make this the great event it is are probably going to have an opinion and and one of the opinions that I've heard over and over again is we really need to work on our categories and the reason I can say that their 100% right is when I was

[2:41:20] When Chris wins the president, we've changed the categories because they've been the same forever

[2:41:25] And we did a lot of research and we looked at what different communities had and we

[2:41:32] Changed our we changed the categories and and and and

[2:41:36] And some of them are are good and some of them are Charlie Browniest and not good

[2:41:42] And I think that it will be good to allow the people all the people in the city

[2:41:47] But also the people that really go to bat and make this thing great to tell us where we can go with that in a better direction.

[2:41:56] I also think that and this is something we've heard a lot from people that, again, make this event what it is is having more input on what the actual theme is going to be.

[2:42:10] And that's the perfect thing to bring to Parks and Rec and let them run with that and determine what the citizens want.

[2:42:15] And finally, I think probably the most important thing to this council is getting a handle

[2:42:22] on how we're spending, because we don't have a real live budget process for this whole event,

[2:42:29] and we should.

[2:42:30] We're spending a lot of money, and maybe we're not spending it wisely.

[2:42:34] And I know in the time that the mayor and I talked to a few people about this, one of

[2:42:42] probably I thought really good suggestions was there are better ways to do the map.

[2:42:50] We don't actually, the map doesn't go to print until we've done the voting and that

[2:42:56] costs us a whole lot of money and maybe we can look at having the map done as soon as we

[2:43:04] get the people that apply, therefore everybody who's on the, is going to decorate is

[2:43:10] the map and then push the judging to further down the road and that we can have a QR code

[2:43:18] or something that we can offer so you can go look at the winners but we don't need to have

[2:43:23] a map just for the purpose of showing where the winners are because that map, how much do we

[2:43:27] spend this year at Rafael? A lot, it's a big afternoon, you don't want to say it and I understand.

[2:43:33] But the fact is that Matt costs us more than anything else and if the whole idea of this is to help make money for the volunteer fire department or whatever

[2:43:45] I mean, that's another thing we need to look at is that the whole reason for this event and if that is we're spending way too much money and not making any because we're spending too much and there's ways to save money and ways to make that better and

[2:44:00] Ultimately, I think what I would like to see is that through Parks and Rec, we get the information from the people that live here whose tax dollars were spending to make this happen and find out what they'd like to see it turn into.

[2:44:16] And I'm going to say right now before anybody takes this wrong, nobody wants to stop the women's club from doing the important things they do and always have done.

[2:44:26] like finding the volunteers to do the judging, like being there to greet people when they

[2:44:32] come in for the winner's dinner, like being there to coordinate the meal for the volunteers.

[2:44:39] Now I am going to say, and I said this to the mayor and I said it to you, I don't think they should

[2:44:44] be driving people around. I think the liability of having people driving volunteers around our

[2:44:54] and those people, not being necessarily the greatest drivers, I used to draw.

[2:45:00] I think that that's maybe something that we can veer away from and use citizens' patrol or the police can tell us what a better way to do that is.

[2:45:11] I think that it's important that the women's club be vital to making these decisions and be their presence, their presence.

[2:45:19] All right.

[2:45:20] But the decisions need to be made by the city and however the city chooses to designate

[2:45:26] that authority because the city is paying for this.

[2:45:30] And the city, this is important to our city, it's an important event.

[2:45:33] It is what one crest is and we need to make it more of some, we need to make some decisions

[2:45:40] that we can stand behind and we sure as heck need to make some better budgetary decisions.

[2:45:45] I can't follow that, but I would just like to add the, I think that we should wait until the women's club has said they'd like a meeting with the women's club has said that.

[2:46:01] We're not doing anything today.

[2:46:03] We're not doing anything today.

[2:46:04] All I'm saying is we're talking about assigning responsibilities.

[2:46:08] Let's let the women of club tell us what responsibilities they can handle,

[2:46:13] because we all know that as we get more advanced

[2:46:17] that sometimes you can't do as much stuff as you were doing before.

[2:46:21] So let's let them tell us. So are they right?

[2:46:24] I my point is we need to talk to everybody in this community and let them decide

[2:46:30] and through the city manager's office decide how this is going to

[2:46:35] morph into what it needs to become.

[2:46:37] Okay. So there was a follow-up meeting from the 2022

[2:46:40] light up and there were a lot of recommendations, one being that the city needed to meet with the

[2:46:45] women's club and the volunteer fire association to better lay out what each group is doing and also there

[2:46:54] were two commissioners from Parks and Recs there seem to be an agreement and there was discussion

[2:47:01] of things going to Parks and Recs that they haven't maybe taken care of before. So I would think the

[2:47:08] First up is that city meeting with the two groups that have been doing the volunteering over the decades.

[2:47:16] And then once that's done, then Parks and Recs can have a public meeting and have it on their agenda to discuss it.

[2:47:23] I think that's fine.

[2:47:24] I'm just saying it is not with it.

[2:47:26] It's not those two groups that need to make these decisions.

[2:47:29] I want their input.

[2:47:30] I think it's important to have their input, but we need to understand that this is a city of it.

[2:47:37] The city pays for it. The city is in charge. The city cleans it up. The city does everything.

[2:47:44] And we need to walk away from the idea that two little groups of a very small number of people from this city are in control of this event. They're not.

[2:47:54] And I'm sorry. We need to start a new, respect the old. What is it? Silver and Gold or whatever the heck it is? That's important.

[2:48:05] But this is not just like I don't want to go to the EDC and say please can we have some

[2:48:10] porridge we don't need to go to the volunteer fire department and the women's club and say

[2:48:14] please can we do this we need to say everybody please come to the table and we would like you to take

[2:48:20] part in this but we need to decide how that's going to move forward and we don't need to ask

[2:48:27] permission from two very small groups in this city and in determining how we're going to move forward

[2:48:34] And I seconded it.

[2:48:36] It's not a motion, but thank you.

[2:48:38] I appreciate you.

[2:48:39] This is my understanding that both those groups

[2:48:41] would be more than happy and willing to head

[2:48:42] of that conversation.

[2:48:43] So I don't think we're going to get a lot of blowback.

[2:48:45] Right.

[2:48:47] Yeah.

[2:48:47] You'll set up the meetings mayor and then we'll do it.

[2:48:50] Man in the middle.

[2:48:51] The dude in the middle.

[2:48:53] The dude in the middle.

[2:48:57] All right.

[2:48:58] City Council review discuss the meeting and act on renewal

[2:49:02] of the Wind Chris volunteer fire association contract.

[2:49:06] So this is the new contract that we revised last year.

[2:49:10] Yes, there's not any unless Council wants to make some changes to that contract, we're

[2:49:14] just going to bring it back for a resolution in March.

[2:49:18] Are we okay with it?

[2:49:19] Yes, sir.

[2:49:20] Thank you.

[2:49:22] Would you give me a copy of that?

[2:49:24] All right.

[2:49:25] It's 8.

[2:49:26] 49.

[2:49:27] And so the Council will be an executive session.

[2:49:31] Councillor, there's right for adjourning.

[2:49:32] The legislation at any time during the course of meetings.

[2:49:36] Discuss any matter, listed below.

[2:49:38] A, percent government vote, five, five, one, zero, seven, one,

[2:49:41] consultation with the attorney discussion on legal issues,

[2:49:44] associated with the NAMBA and Service Contact

[2:49:45] with the Winchrist Fire Department.

[2:49:47] Resume with the Government, five, five, one, zero, seven, four,

[2:49:51] personnel, matter, for discussion of hiring,

[2:49:53] Chris Police, Police Department of Chief of Police, pursuance the police.

[2:50:01] The President, Government 551-087 economic development and 551-071 consultation with the attorney for deliberation discussion on legal issues.

[2:50:11] Associate with Master, Economic, and Senate of Agreement, and RACSBASE,

[2:50:15] Perceo, Government 55107, Transportation with Attorney.

[2:50:19] For deliberation and discussion of legal issues associated with garbage,

[2:50:23] it serves as contract personnel.

[2:50:26] Government, Code 551087, and 551071, Calcitation with Attorney.

[2:50:32] For deliberation and discussion in legal issues,

[2:50:34] associate with King Arthur and Eisenhower Project,

[2:50:37] President, the government, the code 551071,

[2:50:41] consultation with attorney for discussion of Google

[2:50:43] Fiber and Legal Issues associated.

[2:50:45] Pursuing with government code 551 and 074 and 551071,

[2:50:52] consultation with attorney for discussion on legal issues

[2:50:54] associated with renewal of the city manager's contract.

[2:50:58] This is just a question.

[2:50:59] Why can't we have 551071 and bullets underneath?

[2:51:04] what do we have to read five, five, one, zero, seven, one, eighteen tasks.

[2:51:07] As we like to hear you do it.

[2:51:10] Eight fifty one, we'll be adjourned.

[2:51:12] The exact same thing.

[2:51:25] OK, it is nine, fifty, three,

[2:51:28] sending council's back in session.

[2:51:31] We have the next item is the city manager for four.

[2:51:36] Mayor and council members.

[2:51:39] We met you a package and I had a long meeting for every little

[2:51:45] to discuss other than, we had 27 items and as a team we put all our information in there

[2:51:53] and believe we had a successful council meeting tonight.

[2:51:57] I had one question.

[2:51:59] What's the traffic solution signs is that they're writing on them?

[2:52:04] It was under police department but it's as traffic solution signs have arrived and are ready

[2:52:09] to be installed.

[2:52:10] Those are the ones that we have out there,

[2:52:12] speed limits, the 25, the solar panel ones,

[2:52:16] the set 25 miles per hour, 10 miles per hour.

[2:52:20] We're waiting on public works to put them up.

[2:52:22] A little digital.

[2:52:23] We have 25 miles.

[2:52:24] No, no.

[2:52:26] When they say the speed limit that you're driving,

[2:52:28] that's what those are the signs.

[2:52:30] You're going to say 20, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10.

[2:52:32] If you're going to say a solution too, that's the solution.

[2:52:36] We have a way to say 25 when we stop here.

[2:52:38] I don't even know what to talk about. I'm going. I was going to fire carry today. I'm in a school zone. Our school zone by Roosevelt. A school bus passes me going about 30 to 30.

[2:52:50] I school bus. Oh, y'all zone. On walls. What's it? Not a school bus. It's they put up the science for that it's school zone and people are just flying and I will read down that being said.

[2:53:07] I think we have some, we, the police department, the city

[2:53:11] workers have some authority to stop people.

[2:53:13] Yes, we do.

[2:53:14] And I, you know, I mean, my mind went to, okay,

[2:53:18] if they school, if they school bus, hit somebody

[2:53:21] in a school zone, speeding, I mean, that's just...

[2:53:25] I agree.

[2:53:26] I was, I was in the parking lot,

[2:53:29] mailing something yesterday, and in any, any ISD car,

[2:53:35] with all the markings on it, speeding down the ground, turning into the school. I mean,

[2:53:40] like, I'll do wheels. I can attest to one thing earlier today. I was driving around.

[2:53:47] By the way, this is a city man. Yeah, this is a city man. I'll drive around,

[2:53:52] Cresway coming back, I guess, from east to west. And one of our police officers was park right there

[2:54:01] when Brookest States and there was a school bus that seemed like he was speeding but our police officer

[2:54:09] turned on the lights and I think you know let him know and the bus slowed down and that happened

[2:54:15] literally in front of me. It boggles my mind as school bus. Yes and that is that is that is

[2:54:22] Yeah, I have a authority on one of those.

[2:54:25] Exactly.

[2:54:26] Is it somebody on Google's own?

[2:54:27] It's SAP leaders.

[2:54:29] I just, it's just, it was amazing.

[2:54:31] All right, so.

[2:54:32] No, we're there.

[2:54:33] It's feeding in our school's own.

[2:54:34] Yeah.

[2:54:36] I was just being precise about this.

[2:54:37] Going to get to be a tricky question for the city manager.

[2:54:41] I have a comment for you.

[2:54:42] I really appreciate that.

[2:54:45] That's some repaid you put on your, on your, on your,

[2:54:48] reading that and it covered the majority of information and those are the last four pages

[2:54:55] just kind of glanced over with that summer pretty well covered everything you have.

[2:55:01] All right, general announcements and future agenda items.

[2:55:09] We are going to have, we get a date for that, we want to send these projects, and I'm, we're,

[2:55:18] could buy on this together, is a new member meeting. New resident. New resident, thank you.

[2:55:24] Did we get it?

[2:55:26] No, I think there was, I guess offline, I can send an e-mail to you.

[2:55:31] I think we're going to try to get one of those every quarter.

[2:55:37] And so the fine-tuning period here.

[2:55:41] So the concept would be we have a meeting probably here, people who are new residents can come learn about the city.

[2:55:48] Maybe even show them, go, government, whatever that goes.

[2:55:51] That's my guess.

[2:55:51] Thanks, my God, had the water district here, et cetera, et cetera.

[2:55:55] So March 21st, I'll look at the third, March 3rd, Tuesday of the month.

[2:56:05] I think that's all I have anybody else.

[2:56:09] So we've only been here a little bit, not quite four hours with this.

[2:56:13] So actually I thought this would be later.

[2:56:15] Me too. I lost. I lost a lot of money. I'd like you all know that.

[2:56:20] It was a big agenda. I want to thank the staff for putting all this together and actually you know, I'd like to talk about

[2:56:28] five more

[2:56:34] I think we should all sing a song

[2:56:41] All right

[2:56:43] Second

[2:56:44] Second.

[2:56:45] All right.

[2:56:45] All in favor.

[2:56:47] Thank y'all for your vote.

[2:56:48] I'm 58.

[2:56:49] Thank you.

City Council Meeting & Public Hearing - Chapter 113 Proposed Amendments

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