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All right, we're going to call this
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regular city council meeting of July
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8th, 2026
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uh to order at 6:01 p.m.
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We will start with our moment of
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silence. Please arrive if you are
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willing and able.
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All right, we'll proceed into our
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pledges.
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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
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United States
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and justice for all
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the Texas flag
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one state
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one and indivisible.
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» Thank you all. We'll do our roll call to
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establish quorum. Uh, council member
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Crystal Richardson.
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>> Council member Chris Garber.
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» I [laughter]
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council
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pass
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>> and mayor
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>> here. Thank you.
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>> We'll move into our proclamation. Uh,
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haven't note that council member Richard
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too.
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not to call your office. [laughter]
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Um,
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>> I have 603. Uh,
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>> oh, [laughter]
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you're right. My phone.
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>> We'll move into our proclamations and
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presentations. July 2026 is National
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Park and Recreation Month in the city of
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Wood Creek. Uh, please note that we have
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several parks in the city. Please uh
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make an attempt to go out and enjoy them
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when you can. We have Augusta Park,
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which is where the two August meet near
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Brook. We have Creekide Park which is at
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playground. We have the Triangle Park
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where we have our gazebo. And we have
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Veterans Memorial Plaza which is at the
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entrance with the flags.
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We will move into our public comment
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portion of the meeting. Please remember
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the rules. We do not allow profanity,
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personal attacks, or threats. You will
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have three minutes to speak.
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We will start with the in-person
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comments. And we do have one written
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comment. Our city secretary will be
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reading our written comments from now
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on.
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>> The agenda item suits.
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>> Okay, perfect. And um we will be timing
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the written public comment in order to
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make sure we can read at a pace where
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people can understand. If you don't
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mind, I'm going to take a moment to make
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the note about that during that item.
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» All right. First on the public comment
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list, we have Miss Stewart.
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Hello.
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>> Hello.
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>> Good evening. Good evening.
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>> Hello. I'm kind of soft spoken. Can you
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hear?
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>> Yeah.
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>> All right. All right. Uh my subject
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tonight is uh reinstating a budget item
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funding for speed cushions on the east
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end creek drive. Uh, dear council, I'm
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writing to urge you to reinstate budget
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funding from speed cushions on the east
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end of Woodry Drive. Slowing down
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traffic in this area of public safety
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necessity. Two specific locations
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require traffic calming to prevent
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accidents. Near 16 Creek Drive, there's
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a blind curb. It severely restricts
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visibility with vehicles are backing out
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of the driveways down near 7 Wood Creek
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Drive which is where I live at. Inbound
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speeding cars appear without warning
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causing numerous close calls. Installing
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cushions near 16 wood creek by upstream
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from there will force drivers to slow
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down before this blind curve. Uh and
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then near Wood Five Wood Creek Drive
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which is the golf course spot.
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Uh the golf cart crossing here is
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dangerous. Carts must navigate like an
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L-shaped path that's keeping them in the
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roadway longer. Furthermore, heavy shade
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makes the carts difficult to see during
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the day. Speed cushions before this
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crossing by going eastbound are
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essential to slow oncoming traffic down
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so drivers can save the gear. I feel
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like you can kind of guess who's for one
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there because sometimes it's hard to see
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the cars crossing. uh investing these
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speed cushions is a proactive lowc cost
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measure to protect residents, drivers,
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and golfers alike. Thank you for
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prioritizing our community safety. Yeah.
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Next on our list, we have Miss Liver.
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Thank you.
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First of all, my thanks go to the
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council
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veneer and our staff who work so hard to
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make Wood Creek a very special place to
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build. I have been in Wood Creek 22
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years and I must say they've been the
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greatest years of my life.
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Woodri was just not old retired doctor.
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It's changed. Our demographics have
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changed. All the empty lots are gone.
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Most
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>> we're a growing city where people want
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to live. Families, young families with
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two of the cutest ones you've ever seen
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from across the street. But and I think
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of them when I think of the reason we're
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here tonight and that's asking you to
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please reinstate funding for the I like
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to call them traffic.
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The reason being um we have um a busy
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road drive being one of the main streets
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in Woodbury and um people sometimes are
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speeding. I don't know if they're just
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passing through or they actually live
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here, but um the street cushions would
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really be effective if it placed
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near my home at 1600 drive and then
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probably there uh where the land and
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Michael
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um and if they if people who are
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entering Wood Creek, whether they're
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visiting or residents, when they see
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that they know that this is a community
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that prioritize its safety for its
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citizens, its squirrels, its little
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farms.
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>> I've buried many of the squirrel
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on the tree drive and perhaps
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I'm more cognizant of that because if
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you know me, I still love to mow. I
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still love to pull weeds whether in my
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uh yard or down to entry. And so I see a
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lot of uh fastm moving traffic and I
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would really really appreciate it if you
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would reconsider
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uh the funding and add funding for
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additional speed pushes on your driving.
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Thank you so much.
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>> I'd also like to resubmit a
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petition. Thank you.
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>> Yeah. uh that was re was was actually
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submitted last year, but almost everyone
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who lives
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from the beginning of Woodbury Creek up
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to where I think Brent lives signed and
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is invaluable. Thank you so much.
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>> Thank you, ma'am. Your time. Appreciate
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you.
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>> All right. Next up, we have Mr. Hayes.
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Good evening, elected officials of Wood
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Creek and the citizens of Wood Creek. My
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name is Richie Hayes. I live at 12 Wood
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Creek Drive and I inviting y'all to
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reinstate the money for these speed
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bumps. I want to point out a few things
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that maybe have been overlooked.
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On the weekends, we have a lot of golf
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course traffic.
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I understand we have a sign posted that
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says 25 mph radar enforce.
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It's not being enforced very well from
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what I see. I've been passed backing out
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of my driveway and starting forward
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towards 12 numerous times by cars
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and I'm asking y'all to please rethink
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this because somebody's going to get
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hurt and I do not want to see that.
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Thank you for your time.
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» Next up, we have Mr. Pulley.
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» Yes, my name is Brett Pley. I want to
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thank you guys again for all the hard
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work you do up here on the council, you
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know, representing our community. Again,
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um that being said, I'm concerned with the idea of this budget. you know,
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this is something that we thought was
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kind of a done deal. Space three, we've
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been told it's coming and waiting. We
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thought, okay. Um, and for some reason,
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that thing got pulled. And I I respect
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the the debate about that and concerned,
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but I I think it's clear that we really need that speed there. We really
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want you to put that back in in the
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budget if you can. Uh, you know, one of
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the things that's a really dangerous for
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whatever strip. And I do a lot of
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walking through here. You can't tell it
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from the big belly anchor, but um I do
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walking and walking through that. That
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is one of the most dangerous stretches
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for me. When I come to on cycle, I'm
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like I got to be super careful because
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this is if I'm going to get it, this is
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going to be that little stretch of area
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that I'm going to get hurt. And it's I
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don't know what it is about it, but it
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just is people are going fast trying to
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get to the highway. They forget that
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we're a neighborhood. You've got
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families walking that area. You've got
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kids on bikes. You've got promo
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bicycles. You've got uh you know a
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neighborhood that's trying to enjoy
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their neighborhood. And I think it's
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critical that you reinstate that, you
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know, for the sake of our neighborhood.
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And and [clears throat] we were relying
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upon that. We thought we had a process
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that we've worked through for years,
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Chris, and some of the others I serve
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with on the council and I thought we had
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that in place. I thought we were okay.
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So, I'd like you to rethink that and
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reinstate that speed cushion. And I
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think the way to do it is just bring it
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back as a regular agenda item and then
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do it as a budget amendment. But we're
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begging you, you know, to fulfill that
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promise that you made to us that we were
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going to get some relief over there. And
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so we had one discussion. We worked with
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engineers. We worked with a ton of
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people. These folks as well as people
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that couldn't be here today all behind
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us and they're behind you. And we want
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to get that back in the budget. So,
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please do what you got to do to make
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that happen sooner than later. Again,
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thank you so much and keep up good work.
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Thanks. [clears throat]
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>> Thanks, sir.
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>> All right. I believe that concludes our
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public comment period. Uh we will move
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into our consent agenda. Do I have a
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motion to approve?
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>> We approve agenda.
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>> We have a motion to approve the consent
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agenda. Seconded by council member
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Bailey, made by Rosco.
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All in favor, please raise your hand and
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say I.
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>> I.
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>> Unanimous. Consent agenda passes.
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We'll move into the reports. Um, our
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city administrator is out of town, but
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going to call and zoom in with us
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here.
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Sorry, we don't have Thank you so much.
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» Can y'all can y'all hear me?
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>> Yeah.
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we got him.
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>> Okay. Um just going to be real quick.
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You know, the sheriff's uh report, he's
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been active. Um he got several tickets.
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Um as you noticed, there's uh he's after
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the ebikes, so he's keeping an eye out
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for that. And um hopefully that'll
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come to a head at some point. Um
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code enforcement uh we had a pretty good
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busy month of June. Uh we had uh 11
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vegetation dangerous growth. Um most of
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them were empty lots, but uh those of uh
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all but two have been as of last week,
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all but two of them were open. Um or all
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but two of them were resolved. Um we had
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seven trailers, one was left unresolved.
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We had one trash um you know, junk
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accumulation that's been taken care of.
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And then also there was an open burning
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um um note that we sent out and that's
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been resolved. uh engineering update. Um
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the Wood Creek private drive
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reconstruction, the bids are in Civcast
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and they're out for bids are due on July
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29th. Um they're targeting the August
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12th council meeting um to for the bid
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award. Uh with construction anticipated
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in September,
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uh drainage site for the Westwood Brook
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Hollow. Um they just got their task
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order uh approved task order in and
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they're working on um next Tuesday we
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have uh the next steps which is just
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kind of a coordination of all that needs
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to happen uh with the location and
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easement um with the full set of
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preliminary plans due around October.
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Um, also I've talked with the golf
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course um um contractor that's redoing
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the cart pass. He's going to we're going
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to work together with him on the cart
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path that's in that area as well. So
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that that's going pretty well. And then
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city hall updates is pretty quiet. The
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main thing is we've had a bunch of tree
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trimming and um removal permits since
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June 1st or July 1. Is it July? June
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1st. Anyways, we've we've been busy. So,
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uh, that's about it. Pretty short and
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sweet.
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>> Thank you.
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sir. Thank you.
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>> Um, next on the agenda, we move into our
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regular agenda. Um, it's the item
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concerning our audit and financial
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statements. We're going to start with a
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presentation on this and then we'll um
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go with a motion. So, I believe J is
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online with us now. I just like the
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What?
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» We won't be able to project that and
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have them online. That's why I was
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asking if we were using that.
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>> And by the way, the microphones are not
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hot yet, so y'all don't have to speak
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into them.
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» No. Uh, everyone. So, in your packet,
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um, is the full
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report on your desk or sorry in your
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pack full audit on your desk is the
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report portion only. Um we received this
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after the agenda was posted fairly
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recently actually and then additionally
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council members on your desk at least
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four of you had a letter that you needed
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to fill out and send to them.
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>> Um so if you could make sure to do that
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before you leave tonight so we can get
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that to them. That was something we were
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delinquent on. Um,
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>> okay. Jeremy, whenever you're ready,
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we're going to start with your
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presentation and if we could let him
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finish speaking before we start asking
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questions and then we can move into the
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question portion after we have a motion
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on the table.
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>> I appreciate that. Can everyone hear me?
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All right.
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay, cool. Uh, thanks mayor and um, and
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thanks council for having me here today
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and allowing me to join join remote.
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It's kind of a last minute thing. I just
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had something come up that um you know I
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couldn't afford the the commute time
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from San Antonio, but I appreciate the
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flexibility and the the capabilities
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that the the council has to let me
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remote in.
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Um so everyone got uh the the thick
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bound uh document um is basically your
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financial statements for the city of
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Wood Creek for the fiscal year ended
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September 30th, 2025. I'll cover a very
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high level of the the financial
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highlights uh that I I I feel are are worth mentioning, but I'm I'm happy
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to go over any details. So, um again, if
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[clears throat] there's any questions,
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I'll I'll I'll dive in as as much as
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y'all want uh to go over. Starting on
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page one, um a few pages in is our
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independent auditors report. I do want
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to mention this is a draft. Um there
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still can be changes if if if there
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needs to be, but it's in draft mode
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until uh council accepts the audit. So
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once council accepts the audit, we can
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go ahead and finalize it and provide it
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to Jim and he can distribute however he he needs to.
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So uh again starting on page one is our
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independent auditors report. This is
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actually only uh two or three pages that
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belongs to us, the independent auditors.
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Basically states what we're engaged to
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do. First uh paragraph is the most
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important and that's our opinion. Um we did audit the accompanying financial
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statements for the governmental uh
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activities. Each major fund and the
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aggregate remaining fund information for
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the city of Wood Creek for the fiscal
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year end is September 30th, 2025.
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We find the financial statements as
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presented are in compliance with
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generally accepted accounting
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principles. That's the highest opinion
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you can get from an independent
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accounting firm. Basically states
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there's no modifying um statements or
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departures from GAAP. um in the
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statements you have in front of you. So
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it's a clean opinion.
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Uh the basis for our opinion is is
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basically stating that we gathered
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evidence in accordance with our auditing
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standards required and those are the
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general generally accepted auditing
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standards of the United States. Those
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are the standards we followed to do our
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audit. We did have a change in
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accounting principle that was required
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for the fiscal year and it's called
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gazsby statement number 101 over
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compensated abses. those have been that change has been implemented in your
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financial statements. So um uh that we
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that was needed to comply with US
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generally accepted accounting
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principles.
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The next few pages is basically more uh
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boilerplate language on who's
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responsible for these financial
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statements and that's management of the
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city. Our responsibilities is just to
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issue an opinion and gather evidence in
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accordance with our standards.
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Going through the report on page 17 is
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our balance sheet over the governmental
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funds. These are the funds that the city
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manages um on a month-to-month basis and
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Jim manages on a day-to-day basis. Um
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but there's major funds that are are
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more highly active and then there's
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other governmental funds. We have a back
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schedule that that still presents all
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the uh non- major funds but we aggregate
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them in a single column here on page 17.
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So, your major funds for the fiscal year
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were the general fund, the debt service
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fund, the capital projects fund, and the
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new drainage fund. Um, previously we had
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the ARP fund, but through discussions
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with management, um, we had to rename
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that to the drainage fund.
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Uh, your total assets for the fiscal
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year was 1.1 million in the general
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fund. Um, of that 995,000 is is embedded
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in your cash and investments at Texas
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class and and um your your local bank.
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Your overall fund balance for the
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general fund was 1.1 million. Uh 276,000
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of that was assigned for capital uh
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projects and the remaining 832 is
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unassigned for ongoing city operations.
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Um I will say that 832 amounts to about
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15 months of operating reserves. So,
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it's a very healthy fund balance for the
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general fund.
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Um, the rest of the major funds, uh,
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I'll I'll highlight their ending fund
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balance for the fiscal year, and it's
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pretty comparable to the cash balance.
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So, again, very liquid, um, uh, health
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for each of the funds presented here. Um
[21:07]
total fund balance for the uh debt
[21:09]
service fund was 89 uh,000 and that's
[21:13]
restricted for debt service requirements
[21:15]
um on your your new note or I'm sorry
[21:17]
your new tax uh bond. [snorts] Uh
[21:21]
capital projects fund was is 518,000
[21:24]
and that's restricted for capital
[21:26]
projects in accordance with your bond uh
[21:28]
proceeds. And then your drainage fund is
[21:31]
assigned um based off y'all's um ARP
[21:34]
funding for future journey projects. and
[21:36]
that was 471,000
[21:39]
and that includes not only the corpus of
[21:41]
the art funds but also interest earned
[21:43]
on on that sitting in the Texas class.
[21:45]
So it amounts to 471,000
[21:50]
couple pages on page 19 is our income
[21:53]
statement for the governmental funds.
[21:55]
I'll just cover the general fund because
[21:56]
that's the the most activity it was in
[21:58]
that one. Um, our total revenues for the
[22:01]
general fund was 885,000.
[22:04]
Of that, roughly 750,000 of that is in
[22:07]
uh taxes. So, it's either property
[22:09]
taxes, your heavy heavy revenue source,
[22:12]
and then you also get some sales and
[22:14]
franchise taxes.
[22:16]
Total operating expenditures was 642 and
[22:19]
that was all in the general government
[22:21]
um of of the general fund. Uh overall,
[22:24]
we did increase our general fund fund
[22:26]
balance by 170,000. Again, good year for
[22:30]
the general fund. Uh debt service uh did
[22:33]
have a net increase of 70,000. Our
[22:36]
capital projects dipped about 431 and
[22:38]
that was due to some completed some
[22:40]
ongoing construction projects that the
[22:43]
capital projects fund was funding. And
[22:45]
then our drainage funds increased by
[22:47]
20,000 and that's all the interest
[22:48]
earned during the year.
[22:54]
The rest of the the bound document is
[22:56]
more uh detailed notes to the financial
[22:59]
statements. It gives a little more
[23:00]
descriptive language on the balances
[23:02]
themselves. I wasn't going to highlight
[23:04]
any of those unless there was one that
[23:06]
y'all um that caught y'all's eye and I
[23:08]
can go into further detail on those if
[23:10]
you'd like.
[23:13]
>> Does this conclude your your
[23:14]
presentation portion
[23:16]
>> for the bound document? Yes. Uh do you
[23:19]
want me to go into the the report that
[23:20]
you was handed out today?
[23:23]
>> Yeah. Do you mind? And then we'll just
[23:24]
then we'll do the the item and then we
[23:26]
can open up some questions.
[23:28]
>> Sure. So the the the item that was
[23:30]
passed out to you um earlier today. Um
[23:34]
again, sorry that wasn't included in
[23:35]
your bond pack or your your board packet
[23:37]
to to look at beforehand, but I'll I'll
[23:39]
cover I'll cover the the highlights of
[23:41]
this and if there's any questions um
[23:43]
I'll happy to answer them. Um so this is
[23:47]
our required communication with those um
[23:49]
charging governance or the city council
[23:51]
of of the city of Wood Creek. Basically
[23:53]
states how the audit went. Um there was
[23:56]
again a new accounting policy adopted um
[23:58]
starting on page one of the document.
[24:02]
There was a new uh accounting uh
[24:04]
standard uh implemented that was gazby
[24:06]
number 101 again on competences.
[24:09]
There's some estimates embedded in the
[24:11]
financial statements. We evaluate those
[24:13]
and management's estimate estimates and
[24:16]
uh they're comparable consistent with
[24:17]
the years prior. No no huge changes
[24:19]
there. There was some um no there was
[24:23]
some difficulties encountered um in
[24:25]
performing the audit and that was just
[24:26]
getting the trial balance um timely. As
[24:29]
you know we we did miss the March 31st
[24:31]
uh mandated state deadline. Um and so
[24:35]
that was the difficulties the only
[24:36]
difficulties in performing the audit was
[24:38]
just getting the trial balance and
[24:40]
getting the audit started. um timely.
[24:44]
There were some corrected u
[24:46]
misstatements. There were no uncorrected
[24:47]
misstatements in the financials. U
[24:49]
management has made all the audit
[24:51]
adjustments which amounted to about 20
[24:53]
journal entries um in the fiscal year.
[24:56]
And I've attached those um towards the
[24:58]
back end of the um the letter here. We
[25:01]
didn't have any disagreements um with
[25:04]
management um or or uh if we did, we
[25:07]
would have to disclose that to you.
[25:09]
managers provided us everything we
[25:11]
needed to conduct our audit.
[25:13]
And then y'all did comply with the
[25:15]
public funds investment act. And that's
[25:17]
um basically making sure that you're up up to date on your investment
[25:21]
policy, your train uh your investment
[25:23]
officers are are getting their training
[25:25]
that they need and comply with that that
[25:27]
um investment act and that you're not
[25:29]
investing anything um that's not allowed
[25:32]
in the investment act.
[25:36]
on page three is kind of the the
[25:38]
highlight of this um this letter and
[25:41]
that's our material weaknesses. These
[25:43]
didn't change from the prior year when
[25:45]
we came to you in December of last year.
[25:48]
Um there was some some some issues with
[25:50]
the bank reconciliations again this year
[25:53]
and just getting those timely done. So
[25:55]
we just recommend that the bank wrecks
[25:57]
get uh more timely uh managed and we
[25:59]
think the that with the new bookkeeper
[26:01]
that that that process is already in
[26:03]
place. But during the year it wasn't um
[26:07]
wasn't in place and that's what that
[26:08]
that's why it warranted the comment
[26:10]
here.
[26:12]
Also reconciliation of accounts again we
[26:15]
had 20 journal entries uh over the
[26:18]
city's um fund fund statements and so
[26:21]
having the city um reconcile those on a
[26:24]
monthly basis or more periodic basis um
[26:27]
would give you a true picture of the
[26:29]
financial position of the of the city.
[26:30]
So, um, getting those, um, fixed up and
[26:33]
getting the bookkeeper to to, uh, manage
[26:36]
those reconciliations would would go a
[26:38]
long way. And that's all I have for the audit, um, presentation. I'll
[26:43]
take any questions you have on anything
[26:45]
I discuss or the audit process in
[26:47]
general.
[26:49]
>> Do we have a motion on the table for
[26:51]
item number one on the regular agenda?
[26:58]
I move that we
[27:00]
accept
[27:02]
um the audited or receive
[27:06]
just accept that we accept the audited
[27:09]
basic financial statement and
[27:11]
supplemental schedules and independent
[27:13]
audit report by ABIP BC for fiscal year
[27:18]
ended September 30th 2021. SEI motion
[27:22]
made by Mayor Carton Rasco and seconded
[27:25]
by council member Richardson as stated
[27:27]
in the packet to accept the audit. Do we
[27:31]
have any questions or comments at this
[27:35]
time?
[27:38]
Is that yes?
[27:42]
Um
[27:45]
could you look at page nine?
[27:49]
Sure.
[27:51]
Which part? The one in the packet. The
[27:54]
balance one. Do you have
[27:55]
>> the one that was in the agenda?
[28:03]
Not this new one that we just ended up.
[28:07]
Um
[28:09]
some of these are just maybe there
[28:12]
because it's acting so many other things
[28:14]
done. But uh on the note it says
[28:20]
revenues uh total 1.448
[28:25]
which is an increase of 18 percentage.
[28:28]
Um you can look at one [clears throat]
[28:30]
of above 1.448
[28:33]
compared to 1.48
[28:35]
and that's not 18%.
[28:38]
It's actually 2.9%.
[28:41]
And so that note actually came over from
[28:46]
the 2024
[28:48]
audit.
[28:50]
So 2024 audit it was an 18%
[28:55]
um difference
[28:57]
increase but
[29:00]
it's not 18% here. Okay. Um
[29:06]
the next
[29:07]
>> Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree that that
[29:08]
number should be 2.8%. 8%.
[29:12]
>> Yes.
[29:13]
>> Yeah.
[29:15]
>> Okay. Um
[29:17]
so
[29:20]
the same note um it says there's 52,000
[29:25]
or just the next note which is a
[29:29]
decrease 52,000.
[29:32]
It's due to reduced professional
[29:33]
services. Um that line is directly from
[29:37]
2024 audit
[29:40]
but um those fees were actually
[29:46]
the professional fees were 41,000 higher
[29:51]
actual to actual
[29:53]
and um so I think some of these mills
[29:57]
need to be adjusted
[29:59]
to what actually happened some of were
[30:04]
adjusted
[30:05]
requirement.
[30:07]
Okay. on page 10.
[30:10]
Um
[30:14]
this says second paragraph
[30:18]
it says general fund was 832,000
[30:23]
of total 1.1
[30:27]
on the prior year
[30:34]
it says the general fund was 377,000
[30:41]
Uh later on it goes on to say that the
[30:46]
in paragraph three
[30:48]
u the go bond series 2023
[30:52]
it's 89,000 for debt service and a
[30:55]
remaining balance of 832,000
[31:00]
on a side.
[31:02]
But in 2024,
[31:04]
that remaining balance was said to be
[31:08]
377,000.
[31:11]
So that is a $454,000
[31:15]
change. And so sometimes you'd think a a
[31:19]
fund would go down, but this is going
[31:22]
up. Now, there's a number that keeps
[31:25]
popping up. It's 426,000.
[31:29]
Uh that is an adjustment
[31:33]
and this may be what's going on now.
[31:37]
That's on page
[31:39]
43.
[31:41]
>> Can I can I address your number 10 real
[31:43]
quick?
[31:44]
>> Yes. Okay.
[31:45]
>> Okay. So that third paragraph, the 832.
[31:49]
So this is just describe that that's the
[31:51]
amount that's unassigned for future use.
[31:53]
So that that directly ties um to page
[31:58]
uh I think it's 17.
[32:01]
So you can see the the components of
[32:03]
your fund balance. You have some that
[32:05]
are committed, assigned, restricted, and
[32:08]
unassigned. If you look at the far right
[32:10]
column, it's just summarizing those
[32:14]
in that paragraph. So, so the 832
[32:18]
was related to what was out what was the
[32:20]
fund balance for future use at the end
[32:23]
of 2025.
[32:25]
And I think the difference that you're
[32:26]
mentioning the 450 that was because we
[32:30]
had a prior period adjustment related to
[32:32]
the 4 that the ART funds
[32:37]
>> that you mentioned the 426 that that's
[32:39]
those were the ART funds that weren't
[32:41]
realized and we realized them in the
[32:43]
current year.
[32:45]
Can you explain uh because there's also
[32:48]
a place what's called unearned
[32:51]
or deferred revenue is
[32:55]
>> okay what you're talking about there.
[32:58]
Okay. So
[33:00]
when the fire audit says it was
[33:05]
um 377,000
[33:08]
that was just
[33:12]
» that didn't include that that that
[33:14]
didn't include that that did not include
[33:16]
the unearned revenue of 426 that was in
[33:20]
the ARP fund.
[33:22]
>> Okay. So
[33:24]
>> yeah. Yep.
[33:25]
>> And so we realized that revenue in the
[33:27]
current year.
[33:29]
>> Well, I guess it was a prior period
[33:31]
adjustment. So we realized it in the
[33:33]
prior year. It should have been it
[33:35]
should have been realized in the prior
[33:36]
year.
[33:37]
>> Yeah.
[33:37]
>> Okay.
[33:40]
Um the next sentence, general
[33:45]
funds.
[33:47]
Um,
[33:50]
again, this is kind of a lack of text
[33:54]
being updated. It says the actual
[33:57]
expenditures are 95,000
[34:00]
less and that's due to salaries general
[34:03]
office expense mini court but in
[34:07]
actuality
[34:09]
um salaries were down by so this is
[34:12]
95,000
[34:13]
3500 office was over by 9,000
[34:18]
and the median court was 5,000 budgeted
[34:23]
that's only that's down a,000 of
[34:25]
dollars. So what really happened there
[34:29]
was
[34:30]
the increase
[34:33]
the budget was high
[34:37]
by about 80,000 on a contract services
[34:42]
line but um the actual to actual was
[34:48]
41,000.
[34:50]
So these might seem picky block and
[34:53]
still an honor should be accurate. So
[34:56]
>> I gotcha. And you're referring to the
[34:57]
general fund budgetary highlights,
[34:58]
correct? That's where you're at.
[35:01]
>> General fund budgetary highlights
[35:04]
that.
[35:05]
>> Okay.
[35:05]
>> Yeah, we we we worked with Jim on this
[35:07]
to to provide us information on what
[35:10]
caused the difference in the actual
[35:12]
versus budget. And um so we'll have to reook at that and and give
[35:17]
a better explanation on what what caused
[35:19]
the difference between actual and budget
[35:22]
final budget.
[35:24]
>> Um the same goes for the next line
[35:28]
147,000
[35:30]
actual revenues. Um that really had to
[35:35]
do with franchise fees taxes services
[35:39]
and some other income. Um and I just
[35:44]
have one more main area to go over
[35:49]
now which page on capital assets. Let's
[35:53]
just keep on page 10. Um it says that
[35:57]
there is an increase of 533,000.
[36:02]
Um
[36:05]
but our revenue and expense report shows
[36:10]
459,000
[36:13]
which your numbers are probably more
[36:14]
correct but how where do you find those
[36:19]
um capital improvement numbers and is
[36:22]
there a place where it's it's summarized
[36:25]
because
[36:27]
>> okay yeah
[36:29]
>> if if you go to page uh sorry It's in
[36:32]
the footnotes. If you go to page 31,
[36:44]
so that 533,000
[36:47]
if you look at this table that shows
[36:49]
your your capital assets for
[36:52]
governmental activities, if you look at
[36:54]
the bottom where it says governmental
[36:56]
activities, capital assets, comma, net,
[36:58]
it's the difference between your
[37:00]
increases and decreases.
[37:02]
So the 802,000
[37:05]
426
[37:07]
which includes the actual cost of
[37:09]
constructions and capital improvements
[37:12]
as as well as dep less depreciation on
[37:15]
your existing assets and then the
[37:17]
subtraction the subtraction is is your
[37:20]
disposal of assets and completion of
[37:23]
your projects which equals the 269 241.
[37:27]
So the sum of those two or the net of
[37:29]
those two is your 533
[37:32]
185.
[37:34]
>> But is there a place where they are
[37:37]
identified?
[37:38]
Um let's say
[37:43]
okay in our reports we we identify
[37:49]
safety enhancement
[37:51]
we identify drainage. Is there anywhere
[37:54]
in your report where it isolates
[37:57]
what has been approved?
[38:00]
>> I'm sorry. In my report that what is
[38:02]
what
[38:04]
>> which
[38:05]
items of what capital improvements
[38:09]
specifically are?
[38:11]
>> No, no, no. We're not required. we in
[38:15]
the in the MDNA section which is your page 10 over capital assets we can
[38:20]
add some language in there to describe
[38:22]
it but it's not required to to be
[38:25]
presented we the we do have a schedule
[38:28]
that details out what your capital
[38:30]
projects are and what each of these
[38:32]
buckets on page 31 are what what what
[38:35]
land you have what construction in
[38:37]
progress building improvements machinery
[38:39]
equipment we have details behind all
[38:41]
that and what they're still being
[38:43]
depreciated fund. Um, and that's just an
[38:46]
Excel schedule, but we we have the data
[38:48]
behind it, but we're not required to
[38:50]
disclose the details um within the the
[38:52]
document. It's up to management. If they
[38:55]
want to disclose some more information,
[38:57]
they can.
[38:58]
>> Okay.
[38:59]
>> Yeah.
[39:00]
>> Um there's
[39:02]
differentiation. That was a question.
[39:05]
uh the new roads don't seem to be
[39:08]
negotiated but there's something right
[39:10]
about oh the modified approach where you
[39:14]
maintain the roads to kind of the
[39:18]
condition when they were first built and
[39:20]
you don't have to do separate
[39:23]
depreciation
[39:24]
but on those modifications
[39:28]
is that capitalized or expense
[39:33]
» it it depends
[39:35]
I would say they're probably capitalized
[39:37]
because they're extending the life of
[39:38]
the of the asset of the road,
[39:42]
>> but it just depends on the the the each invoice, you know, and we looked at
[39:49]
every invoice, so
[39:53]
>> Okay. Um
[39:55]
I think that's all the questions. Thank
[39:57]
you.
[39:58]
>> Okay.
[39:58]
>> So,
[39:59]
>> hopefully I answered them.
[40:02]
>> Yeah. Thank you, Council Member Bailey.
[40:03]
I have notes that we have on page nine
[40:06]
and these two corrections to make and
[40:08]
then some possible corrections. I'm
[40:10]
unclear on that under the general fund
[40:13]
budgetary highlights that you just plan
[40:15]
to get back with Jim again and verify
[40:16]
that information.
[40:18]
>> Yes.
[40:18]
>> Is that a good summary for you? Any
[40:21]
>> Yeah.
[40:22]
>> Okay. A little bit of the description,
[40:24]
the text.
[40:25]
>> Okay. Um any other questions or concerns
[40:29]
from other council members? Um, I will
[40:32]
open the floor to Jim, but before we do
[40:34]
that, I just wanted to take a moment to
[40:37]
recognize that this was Jim's first
[40:39]
fiscal year um as the city manager in in
[40:43]
its entirety and there was a pretty
[40:45]
hefty return to reserves under his
[40:48]
stewardship and I'm personally very
[40:50]
grateful for that. He managed our budget
[40:52]
well. Um, of course, some of some of it
[40:55]
was due to just other things outside of
[40:58]
his control, but it's always u rewarding
[41:01]
to see the city administrator returns
[41:03]
money to reserves rather than all of us
[41:06]
collectively overspending. So, I just
[41:08]
wanted to highlight that. Um, and then
[41:10]
Jim, he is online. Jim, did you have
[41:13]
anything to add or um comment on this
[41:17]
portion of the meeting?
[41:22]
» [clears throat]
[41:22]
>> No, I'm good. Just want to thank Jeremy
[41:25]
and his team for all the hard work they
[41:27]
did fighting through our our issues, but
[41:30]
um it went pretty smooth and we're ready
[41:32]
to move forward come October,
[41:36]
get on a normal schedule.
[41:38]
>> Yeah. And so one of the highlights again
[41:40]
of um Jeremy mentioned it this evening,
[41:42]
but we do have a new accountant who
[41:44]
works for us regularly. we struggled
[41:47]
with two previous accountants. Um, and
[41:51]
so that that is actually helping us kind
[41:53]
of keep pace better. And then we will be
[41:55]
ready to start our audit as Jen just
[41:57]
mentioned in October as soon as this
[41:59]
budget's closed. So we should be in good
[42:02]
standing from now on moving forward and
[42:04]
we should be able to make that March
[42:05]
deadline more regularly now. So
[42:08]
>> what's the name of the account?
[42:10]
>> They work for the clear cash flows but
[42:14]
is mentioned. What's his
[42:16]
>> uh Charles Williams is the one working
[42:18]
uh under Clear Cle clear clear career
[42:20]
doing that for us. He's he's on top of
[42:23]
it.
[42:24]
>> Yeah.
[42:26]
Consent for all that one. Um all right,
[42:29]
y'all. Uh are we ready to vote? Any
[42:31]
other comments?
[42:33]
Um, so just to be clear, because this
[42:36]
was a draft and there were some possible
[42:37]
edits, will it need to come back to
[42:39]
council again or will this we would just
[42:43]
accept this? Understanding that it'll
[42:45]
come back with edits as a final.
[42:49]
» If it were up to me, I I mean, it's up
[42:51]
to y'all. We can come back and present
[42:53]
again um and [clears throat] give you
[42:55]
more time to review and we can have a
[42:57]
meeting before and just go over any
[42:59]
questions you may have and and changes.
[43:02]
But the the changes that were here
[43:04]
aren't aren't um material. I don't want
[43:08]
to use the wrong word, aren't
[43:10]
significant enough um to to warrant not
[43:12]
approving, but I understand if you want
[43:14]
to table this and and wait till we get
[43:16]
the the language in there and then um
[43:18]
come back to you and and issue again. I
[43:21]
mean, I understand that. I I leave it up
[43:24]
to council.
[43:25]
>> Okay. If I could make a request that we
[43:27]
approve with the event the edits as
[43:30]
suggested. um only because we do have a
[43:33]
rather large grant that we're trying to
[43:35]
get that um us approving would need to
[43:38]
happen before the end of the month.
[43:40]
>> Mayor Mayor,
[43:40]
>> sir,
[43:41]
>> I move to approve with items.
[43:43]
>> Thank you. So, it's a
[43:44]
>> second
[43:45]
>> an amendment seconded by Council Member
[43:47]
Richardson.
[43:49]
So, approve with edits.
[43:51]
>> Do second.
[43:52]
>> Council member Richardson.
[43:55]
>> All right, we'll take a vote on the
[43:57]
amendment first. All in favor of the
[43:59]
amendment of approval. Question. Um,
[44:02]
when would we see the edits of box and
[44:08]
» tomorrow morning? I can get them over to
[44:09]
Jim. Tomorrow morning.
[44:11]
>> Yeah. [laughter] Okay. All right.
[44:13]
>> Yeah.
[44:17]
» And again, like we've had this draft
[44:19]
prepared. Um, and if there's any any
[44:22]
time that they can get distributed out
[44:24]
to to whoever and we can meet and make
[44:26]
these edits beforehand, I'm I'm happy to
[44:28]
do that. I'm happy to meet ahead of
[44:30]
time. Um, it's it's up to y'all. Yeah.
[44:34]
And next year, maybe maybe that's the the route of changes. Hey, maybe we we have a little audit committee
[44:40]
meeting uh with some of y'all and go
[44:42]
over everything um and make sure
[44:44]
everyone's okay so that um
[44:46]
[clears throat] there's no none of these
[44:48]
changes happening uh kind of last
[44:50]
minute. So,
[44:52]
um all of our council members do have an
[44:54]
opportunity to meet with our city
[44:55]
administrator in advance of meetings at
[44:57]
any point in time and some of them have
[44:59]
set meetings. So, as we move forward
[45:01]
every year, it would be good to utilize
[45:03]
that meeting for these kind of
[45:04]
assessments. We don't have to have
[45:06]
gotcha moments in the council meetings
[45:09]
regularly. We can't address small things
[45:11]
like this, especially if there are no
[45:14]
corrections and there's no um dispute
[45:16]
over policy or anything like that. All
[45:19]
right. Um any other [clears throat]
[45:22]
comments on the amendment will hold a
[45:23]
vote.
[45:25]
All in favor of the amendment to approve
[45:27]
with edits, please raise your hand and
[45:28]
say I. I. And then that passes
[45:30]
unanimously.
[45:33]
I move on to the main motion which would
[45:35]
read accept of the audited basic
[45:37]
financials statements and supplemental
[45:39]
SC auditors report by AFPC for the
[45:43]
fiscal year ended September 30, 2025 to
[45:45]
approve with edits.
[45:49]
All in favor raise your hand and say I.
[45:52]
>> I.
[45:52]
>> Unanimously approved.
[45:55]
Thank you. Thank you journey. Thank you.
[46:01]
» We will um send out communication from
[46:04]
him as soon as we have it for everyone.
[46:08]
>> Moving on to item number two in the
[46:09]
agenda. This is related to the H County
[46:12]
Central Appraisal District proposed land
[46:14]
purchase.
[46:16]
Do we have a motion on the table?
[46:25]
I move that we approve resolution number
[46:27]
2026-07-08-01
[46:31]
supporting H county simple appraisal
[46:33]
districts proposed land purchase and
[46:35]
construction of new facility to provide
[46:37]
services to the taxing units and
[46:40]
taxpayers of Pace County pursuant to
[46:42]
Texas property tax code section 6.0 zero
[46:46]
lifetime.
[46:50]
» Council member Richardson made the
[46:51]
motion as stated in the packet. Mayor
[46:53]
Bert Morasco seconded.
[46:56]
Um I have a brief statement here to
[46:57]
read. Um one, the purchase of
[47:00]
construction will come from the CAD
[47:02]
budget and not the city's budget. Two,
[47:05]
the resolution is a formally required by
[47:07]
statute and the tax code to authorize
[47:09]
the CAD to move forward. And three, the
[47:11]
city council must make a factual finding
[47:13]
that the proposed new facility is to
[47:15]
expand operations and promote the cat
[47:16]
operations to serve both the city and
[47:18]
county residents and thereby promoting
[47:20]
the general welfare.
[47:23]
Um, we did not present a no response to
[47:26]
this. Um, it was the only time they
[47:29]
needed the resolution was if we were
[47:31]
approving it. Um, so do y'all have any
[47:35]
questions about this item?
[47:38]
>> I didn't want saw it. I didn't want it.
[47:41]
>> Uh, essentially they are saying they
[47:43]
need to build another facility and this
[47:45]
will levy taxes to do so, but it comes
[47:48]
out of their portion of the taxes.
[47:51]
>> Um, and
[47:54]
I don't want to get into the weeds too
[47:56]
much because I can't speak for other
[47:57]
cities. Some cities might not move
[47:59]
forward with this because they felt that
[48:02]
it came out a little bit late in the
[48:04]
year and so they had more questions. Um,
[48:09]
I don't personally have those questions.
[48:12]
Um, of course, if you all had them, you
[48:14]
have the opportunity to not pass this,
[48:17]
but essentially they only need a portion
[48:19]
of all the cities in their jurisdiction
[48:21]
to approve to move forward. So,
[48:28]
no other comments. All right. All in
[48:30]
favor of approving the resolution number
[48:32]
2026-07-08-01,
[48:36]
please raise your hand and say I.
[48:38]
>> I.
[48:39]
>> Unanimously approved. Thank you all.
[48:44]
[clears throat]
[48:47]
» In the morning, we need to send that
[48:48]
over to them because they have a
[48:49]
deadline. All right, we move on to item
[48:52]
number three. This is a discussion about
[48:53]
planting seven new trees. Do I have a
[48:56]
motion on the table?
[49:02]
Uh, a motion to approve the purchase and
[49:04]
installation of seven new trees from the
[49:07]
city of Wood Creek to be installed by We
[49:10]
Love Trees because cost not to exceed
[49:13]
$6,000 from the 2026 2027
[49:18]
trees and parks budget line item
[49:20]
10-10-554
[49:23]
designated for fall 2026
[49:26]
planting. A second.
[49:29]
>> Council member Gormick seconded. Motion
[49:31]
made by council member Swedberg as
[49:33]
stated in the packet. Do you mind if I
[49:36]
present this item on this?
[49:38]
>> Okay. Um [clears throat] first off, um
[49:42]
our city administrator has asked an
[49:44]
amendment to change the budget line
[49:46]
item. um we have a tree fund
[49:50]
>> and so we just kind of in our
[49:52]
discussions of this moving up to it um
[49:54]
sort of forgot that we have an entire
[49:56]
fund designated for this purpose. So I
[49:58]
would ask that in this meeting we would
[50:00]
amend to say tree fund instead of the
[50:03]
trees and parks budget line item at some
[50:05]
point. We don't have to issue that now.
[50:08]
Um letter A has actually already been
[50:11]
approved by council. This is sort of
[50:13]
just the final approval because we asked
[50:15]
the trees and parks board to uh decide
[50:18]
the uh type of tree and this was
[50:20]
actually their second designation. they
[50:23]
originally picked or I don't remember
[50:25]
the complete history but at some point I
[50:27]
think it was supposed to be a sycamore
[50:28]
but arborist on the board recommended
[50:32]
not because sycamores prefer more water
[50:34]
than this area would provide and so he
[50:37]
recommended the cedar m because they are
[50:40]
more resilient and this area will
[50:42]
receive less water. Um, so that's the
[50:45]
history on item A in Dece or actually it
[50:48]
might have been November. Um, they voted
[50:50]
to say a cedar elm and like I said,
[50:53]
council has actually already approved
[50:54]
the funding for the planting of that.
[50:56]
This would just be the final approval.
[50:58]
Um, item B is new and um, something I'd
[51:03]
like to recommend if council would like
[51:04]
to send that portion to the trees and
[51:06]
parks board for a direct recommendation
[51:09]
since they haven't commented on that, would be great. Also, city
[51:12]
administrator uh Mr. Burton wanted um to
[51:17]
discuss the concept that the veterans
[51:19]
memorial plaza might be better served by
[51:22]
only memorializing veterans there.
[51:25]
That's up for discussion and debate by
[51:26]
council and of course the tree board of
[51:28]
how we install trees where, but I wanted
[51:30]
to make sure his opinions on that were
[51:33]
noted tonight. And then items C and D
[51:36]
are related to the road reconstruction
[51:38]
of Western Wood Drive. Both property
[51:42]
owners
[51:43]
have expressed um interest and favor this and specifically the Cypress
[51:49]
Falls side was on board and essentially
[51:52]
requested this instead of losing a tree
[51:54]
and the Cypress Point side has stated
[51:56]
that they are supportive of this um and
[51:59]
that they would actually be interested
[52:00]
in cost sharing but have reserved giving
[52:04]
a final um total on that because it's
[52:06]
for one it's a whole board but also um
[52:08]
they were kind of waiting to see what um
[52:11]
the city plan might look like,
[52:13]
especially the cost of it. Okay.
[52:15]
>> Mayor, can I ask you a direct question?
[52:17]
Um
[52:18]
>> could you distinguish between Cypress
[52:20]
side and Cypress
[52:22]
Oh, I'm in the cycles one.
[52:24]
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[52:25]
>> So, the lodge area is Cypress Falls.
[52:27]
>> Yes. Yeah. So they own one side of the
[52:30]
culvert where a large tree is being
[52:33]
taken out and then Cypress Point is
[52:34]
actually the land owner on the other
[52:35]
side Hog Creek and there's um I think
[52:40]
three trees being taken down there.
[52:43]
>> Um and so this is kind of just our
[52:45]
commitment to replace trees that we take
[52:48]
down for construction. We have an
[52:49]
overall city policy in favoring that
[52:51]
kind of thing. Actually it's an
[52:52]
ordinance. So this is us kind of acting
[52:55]
in good faith in our own construction.
[52:57]
That makes sense.
[52:59]
Mayor, mayor, sir. Um, I wish to discuss
[53:02]
the suggestion of a cedar elm at the
[53:04]
Brook Meadow Street Island location. Um,
[53:07]
I have cedar elms in my backyard and
[53:09]
they have a strong tendency to drop the
[53:10]
limb in large and small. So, I did some
[53:13]
research to see if that is true for
[53:15]
cedar elms in general or just those in
[53:17]
my backyard. The research says that yes,
[53:20]
as a cedar is a good tree for street
[53:22]
islands as they are highly adaptable,
[53:24]
resilient native trees that tolerate
[53:26]
tough compacted soils, restricted root
[53:29]
spaces found in Texas road islands. But
[53:32]
because they grow quite large, often
[53:34]
reaching up to 70 ft, confined road
[53:37]
islands might restrict root systems over
[53:39]
time or lift surrounding roadway if not
[53:41]
provided adequate room. And to quote the
[53:44]
we love trees website, in small road
[53:47]
islands in Texas, these trees face added
[53:50]
stressors, constricted root zones
[53:52]
combined with extreme heat and
[53:54]
unpredictable weather swings frequently
[53:56]
result in sudden living drop where
[53:59]
heavier branches fail without warning.
[54:02]
So, the research confirmed my concern
[54:04]
and then I did some research on what
[54:06]
other trees might best suit this small
[54:08]
little roadway location. And the
[54:10]
following four trees consistently showed
[54:12]
up on all the lists. Texas mountain
[54:14]
wool, a slow growing evergreen featuring
[54:18]
fragrant purple spring blooms and
[54:20]
compact canopy perfect for tight tough
[54:22]
spaces. There are already two volunteers
[54:25]
at this location, though poorly placed
[54:28]
near the edge. Um, Mexican plum, a
[54:31]
native ornamental offering beautiful
[54:33]
white spring blossoms and attractive
[54:34]
bark. I should mention that the that I
[54:37]
have several of these and they have
[54:39]
three to four inch spikes on the
[54:40]
branches, though I do support the idea
[54:42]
of planting fruit trees in the
[54:43]
community. Desert willow thrives in full
[54:46]
sun with high drought tolerance
[54:48]
producing trumpet shaped flowers. Texas
[54:52]
red bug thrives statewide with bright
[54:54]
pink spring flowers and handles
[54:56]
reflected heat well. In my yard, I have
[54:58]
several of all of the above except for
[55:00]
the desert willow.
[55:02]
Based on my experience with my trees and
[55:04]
the research I've done regarding street
[55:05]
trees in Texas, I would recommend
[55:07]
council chooses the desert willow to
[55:10]
complement the other plantings and
[55:12]
volunteers at the Brook Meadow location.
[55:14]
Specifically, I think council should
[55:16]
choose the cultivora,
[55:19]
which is a seedless variety for large
[55:22]
fragrant magnolia magenta blossoms.
[55:26]
Being seedless seedless helps reduce
[55:28]
maintenance for this area compared to
[55:30]
other cultivars. Overall, the desert
[55:33]
willow is a tough and pretty tree
[55:35]
perfectly suited for this location.
[55:40]
» May I just say they're not pretty in the
[55:42]
winter.
[55:43]
>> True. They do.
[55:44]
>> I will.
[55:44]
>> They're just like sticks.
[55:46]
>> They also grow very wide and low. So
[55:49]
this area is a little like I'm not
[55:53]
disagreeing that would in theory be a
[55:55]
good pick. I am concerned about the
[55:57]
width of 20 ft at only 20 ft high.
[56:03]
So that's they grow like
[56:05]
>> so I think that that would actually
[56:07]
impede the street pretty significantly.
[56:11]
>> Desert.
[56:11]
>> Yes. Because they grow wide and low.
[56:14]
>> Yeah. So they would be good for like
[56:16]
that street island in Wood Creek Drive
[56:20]
because it has a wide width, but they
[56:24]
like the one that's planted at the
[56:25]
gazebo is actually planted too close to
[56:27]
the gazebo. The arborist commented on
[56:29]
that as well.
[56:30]
>> Yeah, I was just trying to state my
[56:32]
concern about the the wind drop if I
[56:34]
experience it. anytime you have a
[56:36]
slightly strong wind.
[56:40]
>> So I, you know, especially since it's a
[56:42]
roadway, I want to take make sure that
[56:44]
we're cons considering that option. Um,
[56:48]
if I could, I'd also like to talk about
[56:49]
Memorial Park. I do appreciate um Jim's
[56:53]
idea. Um, so kind of take that in. I
[56:57]
wrote this well before Jim mentioned
[56:58]
this, but I wanted to talk about the
[57:00]
orchid trees in Memorial Park. Um,
[57:03]
they're beautiful spring blue trees.
[57:08]
Yep, I'm in right place. And I've had
[57:10]
them personally, which may not be an
[57:11]
issue for the city if they are planted
[57:13]
in a location where consistent mowing
[57:16]
will occur as they tend to throw seeds
[57:19]
like crazy. Actually, the tree is funded
[57:22]
on how it throws seeds. The dry seed
[57:25]
pods literally pop and throw their seeds
[57:27]
35 to 50 feet away. I've actually been
[57:30]
hit in the face by these seeds. I
[57:32]
planted mine in a wide deep garden
[57:35]
border. Um, one of my annual tasks is to
[57:38]
pull out the volunteers of this tree
[57:40]
mates. They are they look delicate, but
[57:42]
they are truly Texas. A 2-in volunteer
[57:45]
can have an 8 in tap routt. So, I would
[57:49]
only recommend that if council decides
[57:52]
to go with orchid trees that they plant
[57:54]
them in the Greek grass section of a
[57:57]
moral park. But if they're plant if the
[57:59]
planted to plant
[58:01]
in the existing garden beds, I would go
[58:03]
with the red.
[58:05]
>> Yeah. No, on that one, we were going to
[58:08]
let our arborist kind of decide this the
[58:11]
place, but u we lost like a whole cops
[58:13]
of trees over there a few years back.
[58:16]
There was a mistake in direction from a
[58:18]
member of the tree board and they took
[58:20]
out a bunch of trees they shouldn't
[58:22]
have. Um and so
[58:25]
uh she was chairperson at the time
[58:27]
actually. But uh and so in in my mind
[58:31]
this I would hope that they would try to
[58:33]
go kind of in that area um to where a
[58:36]
bunch of trees were taken out
[58:39]
>> in the winter.
[58:40]
>> Yeah.
[58:40]
>> Wonderful. I'm just thinking of parents
[58:43]
during the year.
[58:44]
>> Yeah. But we would rely they the
[58:47]
intention was not to go in the existing
[58:48]
beds and we would rely on a professional
[58:51]
to say this is a safe place to plant
[58:53]
this or you know we have to look for
[58:55]
lines as well.
[58:56]
>> Right.
[58:58]
>> Can we can we discuss the part about the
[59:00]
veterans versus non veterans?
[59:03]
>> If y'all feel like you need
[59:06]
>> Well, it's it's called Veterans Memorial
[59:08]
Park. There's a there's a
[59:10]
>> a monument there to
[59:12]
>> the circuses. there's the black poles.
[59:15]
Um, and and I just wonder there not a committee [clears throat] of
[59:21]
veterans that that manage that or would
[59:24]
go to approve anything that's going on
[59:27]
in there. So, so it's like, okay, so, so
[59:32]
I'm not sure who would complain um if if
[59:36]
we were memorializing,
[59:38]
you know, city leaders, city members um
[59:42]
in that way, in that place um that also
[59:45]
needs treats. But, um but that's just my
[59:48]
thinking on it's like, well, I mean,
[59:50]
council would ultimately make the
[59:52]
decision whether to put trees there,
[59:54]
whether they're veterans or not. We
[59:55]
don't know whether um Miss Britner um or
[1:00:00]
Mr. Winter were veterans. I mean, we
[1:00:03]
probably find that out, but but even if
[1:00:05]
they weren't, is this, you know, it
[1:00:07]
seems like the most
[1:00:10]
logical place to do, you know, special
[1:00:13]
memorials. Um and there is a need in
[1:00:17]
that location. So, it's just I just
[1:00:18]
wanted to sort of bring that up and
[1:00:20]
>> see what people think about.
[1:00:22]
>> If I may also, u Mr. renter. Actually,
[1:00:24]
the member of Wow. James left, but Wow.
[1:00:27]
Um, the weeders of Wood Creek takes care
[1:00:30]
of the entrance for us for free and he
[1:00:34]
was one of the members that used to go
[1:00:35]
work there. So, it was sort of like a
[1:00:37]
kind of an homage to that work he did
[1:00:39]
there. Um, and this idea started for me
[1:00:42]
right after his passing, which is
[1:00:43]
actually some time ago now, almost two
[1:00:46]
years, maybe two years. Um and then when
[1:00:48]
Miss Britner also passed away because of
[1:00:50]
her lengthy service in the city, I just
[1:00:52]
wanted to recognize her as well. Um she
[1:00:54]
served on a council for a long time and
[1:00:57]
mayor for several.
[1:01:00]
>> So um you know I think you know we could
[1:01:04]
take each of these as an amendment. I
[1:01:07]
would request the first amendment to be
[1:01:08]
about the budget to come this would come
[1:01:11]
from the tree fund specifically. Sir,
[1:01:14]
>> I manage that the funding
[1:01:19]
is from to become from the tree fund.
[1:01:24]
>> Thank you. So you would to confirm you
[1:01:27]
mean you would strike trees and parks
[1:01:29]
budget
[1:01:30]
line item and instead put like in with
[1:01:34]
the number and say tree fund.
[1:01:35]
>> Would you like me to fully state that?
[1:01:37]
>> No, it's okay. I just wanted authors.
[1:01:39]
Okay. So seconded by council member
[1:01:41]
Richardson. motion made by council
[1:01:44]
member Gart [clears throat] and then um
[1:01:49]
we'll go ahead and vote on that just to
[1:01:50]
keep this clean if you don't mind. All
[1:01:51]
of you heard of that budget change raise
[1:01:53]
your hand say I unanimously I on the
[1:01:58]
amendment. Um and then if you just take
[1:02:00]
each letter you know I hope you all
[1:02:03]
approve these all of them. Um obviously
[1:02:05]
they're up for discussion. Um because of
[1:02:08]
the way this is stated, you can make
[1:02:11]
adjustments, but if you make
[1:02:13]
adjustments, it likely needs to come
[1:02:15]
back because that was not publicly
[1:02:17]
noticed. So, for example, if you want to
[1:02:19]
reconsider the Cedar Elmont letter A, we
[1:02:23]
would either need to send the new
[1:02:25]
request to trees and parks or for it to
[1:02:27]
come back at a future council meeting.
[1:02:29]
By the way, the public is adequately
[1:02:30]
noticed on that change.
[1:02:34]
Question, if I may. Um,
[1:02:38]
it says proposed selections on our
[1:02:41]
agenda.
[1:02:43]
So, can't council change something
[1:02:46]
that's proposed.
[1:02:50]
And [clears throat] we're also not
[1:02:51]
changing the
[1:02:53]
value or a number. We're we're saying
[1:02:58]
>> proposed is a blue car. We want a green
[1:03:02]
car.
[1:03:02]
>> That is not allowed on to
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So, you've got a very specific list of A
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through D. Um, it does say proposed
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elections, but here they are. And so,
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the question is, adequate notice to the
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public under the Open Meetings Act. And,
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[clears throat]
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you know, if you had a discussion to
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formulate what the options will be and
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that was broadly drafted, then then
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you'd have a little bit more discretion.
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But here you've got a very specific list
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that follow specific list and to the
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extent that you know it's if it's if
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it's a dimminimous or a very minor
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change it might be okay under adequacy
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of notice but the best practice is to
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either go with what action is proposed
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and vote up or down on it or bring it
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back to a future agenda which can
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certainly be done. You can direct staff
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say this is what we want. This is the
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direction back and approve it with
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adequate notice to the public
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>> and I will say on letter A in particular
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that's from a report from the tree
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board. So that wasn't something I
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personally generated.
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My con Yeah. My concern is that we love
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trees actually doesn't recommend this
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very tree and we're hiring we love
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trees. So it kind of
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>> So my amendment would be
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um item A and B be sent to the tree
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board
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for review and recommendation.
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The
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>> second. All right. We have a amendment
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to send A and B to the tree board for
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recommendation. We have a second from
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council member Bailey.
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Any further discussion on those two?
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>> They would have um the notes from the
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meeting with the discussion.
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>> Yes,
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that was true. This meeting? Yeah,
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>> from this native.
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>> Yeah. Is that
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>> But I mean just I'm sorry.
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>> I just have a quick question. As far as
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the cedar elm and the risk of the limbs
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dropping, is that minimized by regular
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maintenance by an arborist?
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» Not my experience.
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>> So,
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>> okay, I understand. But I'm going to
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share what I in my research that I did
[1:05:31]
in the last couple days. Um, cedar elms
[1:05:35]
have very brittle wood. So wind tends to
[1:05:38]
break it ver versus other trees that
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tends to have more flexible wood. I
[1:05:44]
guess I mean that's based on the
[1:05:45]
research I did and that's kind of what
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we love trees. So actually a website
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that I was doing this research from.
[1:05:53]
Well, as far as serum goes, you know, I
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was I was in on those meetings,
[1:05:57]
discussions and going back and forth and
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Sycamore and Serum and it's that the
[1:06:04]
focus I think of the treeboard at the
[1:06:05]
time was well, we need something that
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goes tight because it's a fairly narrow
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stretch and you don't want you don't
[1:06:12]
want the the traffic block. You don't
[1:06:13]
want traffic vision blocked, but you
[1:06:15]
want something that's trunk
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>> and leaves. Um, and so it fit that
[1:06:22]
description, but there wasn't a real
[1:06:23]
there wasn't conversation about sort of
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the downside of one because I we had a
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bunch of CR still and they do smile. Um,
[1:06:31]
and it's a win. I mean, so so would regular birth care help?
[1:06:39]
>> Um, yeah. But would it solve it? Would
[1:06:42]
it I I don't I don't know, but I don't
[1:06:44]
think so. I still ask the question is
[1:06:47]
deciduous versus evergreen a question
[1:06:50]
that we want to consider as we look at
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these trees
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cuz all the rest of them look good in
[1:06:57]
the winter.
[1:06:57]
>> Do you have a citation for the we love
[1:07:00]
trees?
[1:07:01]
>> I don't sorry
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>> okay because I'm on their website right
[1:07:05]
now and I don't mean
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>> any of that
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>> put in quotes and I just pulled it and
[1:07:10]
put it into my notes
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>> so Am I alone on the disc?
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>> No, you're not alone. I didn't mean to
[1:07:18]
glaze over it. I just I think it's best we rely on
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professionals
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and all, you know, for this in
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particular. And we can always also add
[1:07:29]
on a consultation with we love trees in particular
[1:07:36]
um if that was a concern of y'alls and
[1:07:39]
they could give a a more indepth answer
[1:07:45]
for the for the tree board if y'all
[1:07:46]
wanted as part of that. Yeah.
[1:07:50]
>> Okay.
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>> Because I was one of the ones who said
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see around the
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>> first
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street.
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>> They're they're all over our city and
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they line their streets already.
[1:08:04]
>> I've got too many.
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» [clears throat and cough]
[1:08:17]
» Do you have any other comments on
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sending A and B to the tree board and
[1:08:22]
offering a consult with we love trees
[1:08:24]
for them?
[1:08:28]
All right. All in favor of that mot,
[1:08:30]
please raise your hand and say I. Um,
[1:08:33]
all five passes
[1:08:35]
unanimously. Um, that leaves item C and
[1:08:38]
D. Um, much like item A, this wasn't
[1:08:42]
directly generated from me. I offered
[1:08:45]
the opportunity of a possible tree
[1:08:48]
replacement and the discussions with
[1:08:50]
these individuals. Cypress Falls or Miss
[1:08:54]
Hasty in particular appreciated the bald
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Cypress
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petition specifically. Um I will say
[1:09:01]
that the board chairperson of uh Cypress
[1:09:05]
Point made some other suggestions and um
[1:09:09]
Mr. Filming um however when I looked
[1:09:12]
those up they don't meet kind of like
[1:09:15]
our city standards for um the kind of
[1:09:17]
trees we prefer to plant by policy. So
[1:09:21]
um I did not proceed with some of the
[1:09:23]
things he mentioned but um he did he
[1:09:26]
basically said yeah you know whatever is
[1:09:28]
in the creek you know replace I'm
[1:09:31]
quoting sorry Ed if you're listening but
[1:09:35]
um so what was selected here were trees
[1:09:37]
that are already located in that area
[1:09:40]
sycamore
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>> and because we have a policy of uh
[1:09:44]
promoting diverse canopy instead of
[1:09:47]
three of the same it was you know
[1:09:50]
promoted to be three different
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>> we don't need any amendment that's
[1:09:55]
already part of it
[1:09:58]
>> unless you guys want to do something
[1:10:00]
else and then I would recommend that you
[1:10:02]
bring it back to council so you have
[1:10:04]
proper compliance or send it to the tree
[1:10:07]
board
[1:10:11]
» any further discussion on CN
[1:10:14]
all in favor of moving forward with
[1:10:16]
those as stated please raise your hands
[1:10:19]
and say I
[1:10:20]
>> I
[1:10:21]
>> unanimously passes. We send the sheet as
[1:10:26]
that just occurred. But we have to go
[1:10:28]
back and redo all of the main motion
[1:10:30]
together with all of these amendments.
[1:10:32]
So C and D have been approved. A and B
[1:10:34]
would be sent to the tree board and then
[1:10:37]
we'll do the main motion with those
[1:10:38]
amendments. So I'll read that now. Are
[1:10:40]
you ready? All right. So, the motion as
[1:10:42]
amended will state to approve the
[1:10:44]
purchase and installation of seven new
[1:10:46]
trees in the city of Wood Creek to be
[1:10:48]
installed by We Love Tree cost not to
[1:10:50]
exceed $6,000 from the 2026 2027 tree
[1:10:53]
fund designated for fall 2026 planting
[1:10:57]
with A and B to be sent to the tree
[1:10:59]
board or consult
[1:11:03]
in addition with we love trees. I added
[1:11:04]
that it's not an official per amendment
[1:11:07]
though. and then C and D would be
[1:11:09]
approved as is.
[1:11:12]
All in favor of the amended motion,
[1:11:14]
please raise your hands and say I.
[1:11:16]
>> Unanimously passes with those
[1:11:18]
amendments.
[1:11:24]
All right, we'll move on to item number
[1:11:26]
four. Um, this has actually been
[1:11:29]
postponed because we do not have the
[1:11:30]
report from the trees and parks board.
[1:11:32]
They requested a secondary meeting to
[1:11:35]
discuss the topic because they wanted to
[1:11:38]
go out and personally spend a little bit
[1:11:40]
more time on this and do a little bit
[1:11:42]
more research on their own before they
[1:11:43]
issued a report to us. So, we will not
[1:11:45]
be taking up item number four.
[1:11:51]
[clears throat] We'll move on to item
[1:11:52]
number five which is related to a
[1:11:55]
schedule for routine mat maintenance
[1:11:57]
contract review and policy review for
[1:12:00]
the city.
[1:12:01]
Sir,
[1:12:02]
>> I move that council direct staff and or
[1:12:04]
city attorney to make the following
[1:12:05]
edits and return the draft resolution to
[1:12:07]
council for approval. The edits are to
[1:12:10]
remove the third and final resolved
[1:12:12]
section from this resolution and any
[1:12:15]
creation of a threshold higher for
[1:12:17]
submission of an item to council's
[1:12:19]
agenda or council's final approval on
[1:12:22]
any item on council's agenda legally
[1:12:25]
required by state law and remove the
[1:12:29]
entire section regarding policy and any
[1:12:31]
reference in the document pertaining to
[1:12:33]
such specifically the whereas statement
[1:12:36]
about excessive and redundant policy
[1:12:38]
review, leaving only the sections named
[1:12:41]
infrastructure and asset maintenance and
[1:12:43]
contract services. And that the
[1:12:45]
resolution makes clear that only those
[1:12:47]
two sections are being addressed by this
[1:12:49]
draft resolution, including in the
[1:12:51]
whereas and results section.
[1:12:59]
» Motion fails for lack of a second. Do we
[1:13:01]
have a secondary motion on the table?
[1:13:08]
I move that we approve resolution number
[1:13:12]
2026-07-08-02
[1:13:15]
establishing schedule for routine
[1:13:17]
maintenance contract review and policy
[1:13:20]
review for the city review.
[1:13:25]
» Seconded
[1:13:27]
by council member Richardson. motion
[1:13:30]
made as stated in the packet. Do you
[1:13:32]
mind if I introduce?
[1:13:36]
» Sorry.
[1:13:36]
>> Do you mind if I introduce this?
[1:13:38]
>> So, uh, this item is something we've
[1:13:41]
kind of long talked about. Um, it kind
[1:13:44]
of concretes some of our maintenance
[1:13:47]
schedules so that um, especially if we
[1:13:50]
have any turnover and change of staff.
[1:13:52]
Hopefully that never happens, but as
[1:13:54]
things do happen, people do wish to
[1:13:56]
retire eventually. um this would give a
[1:13:59]
clear road map for people moving
[1:14:01]
forward. Um the policies themselves
[1:14:05]
um they are set so I'll just take kind
[1:14:08]
of take it by section. Um we discussed
[1:14:10]
in a meeting and set the the numbers for
[1:14:13]
procurement and fine balance. The
[1:14:15]
investment policy is governed by state
[1:14:17]
law. So that means that um the other
[1:14:20]
ones are kind of set after each council
[1:14:22]
is redone. So at November we have an
[1:14:25]
election and so that new council will
[1:14:27]
get to set their policies if they wish.
[1:14:30]
Um and then the setting of paper of
[1:14:34]
record that's kind of a standard process
[1:14:36]
we do that every single year at the same
[1:14:38]
time. um the records retention policy um
[1:14:42]
we you know that is under kind of what's
[1:14:46]
require I mean that's a city secretary
[1:14:48]
item and the state sort of regulates it
[1:14:51]
but this is in compliance with that um
[1:14:55]
[clears throat] then moving on with our
[1:14:58]
um advisory bodies we ask that they do
[1:15:01]
this annually that's in the code but by
[1:15:03]
including this in this kind of calendar
[1:15:05]
it gives us one place to look for all of
[1:15:07]
this of um subcommittees and ad hoc
[1:15:10]
workg groups. Um that's something that
[1:15:12]
we we dissolve either with an election
[1:15:17]
or when the business is vent or we can
[1:15:18]
work on them during the budget season
[1:15:20]
like if we know we're going to be
[1:15:21]
forming like for example when we form
[1:15:23]
the road committee for the road bond
[1:15:25]
that kind of stuff. Um the comprehensive
[1:15:27]
master plan has a plan you know so I'm
[1:15:30]
not going to read this whole thing to
[1:15:31]
you. Um the the only like the liaison
[1:15:35]
policy
[1:15:37]
uh is something that you know we're kind
[1:15:39]
of like like sort of using that might
[1:15:42]
eventually not be on here. Um temporary
[1:15:45]
water restrictions we set in in that
[1:15:48]
actual resolution. So that mimics that
[1:15:51]
um moving on to the infrastructure and
[1:15:53]
asset maintenance. These are things that
[1:15:55]
we have been doing out of like kind of
[1:15:58]
just memory. They have there's never
[1:16:01]
been a consistent stated schedule on any
[1:16:04]
of these things. And so they were based
[1:16:06]
like for example the rainwater
[1:16:07]
collection system that's based on the
[1:16:09]
recommendations from the people that
[1:16:10]
installed it and people that work in
[1:16:13]
that field. They need to be checked out
[1:16:15]
every couple of years. Um the website
[1:16:18]
review that's something that I take in
[1:16:20]
all my staff personally and um so that's
[1:16:23]
h we do that in January. In fact we've
[1:16:25]
done a few of them now. So that will
[1:16:27]
probably um at least happen once a year.
[1:16:31]
Um but obviously if there are changes
[1:16:32]
needed in the meantime, we would do
[1:16:33]
that. The golf park crossing, that
[1:16:36]
number is based on what we watched since
[1:16:38]
we last painted them. So it's been about
[1:16:40]
three years since we last painted them
[1:16:42]
and they need to be painted again. So
[1:16:44]
that's where that number came from. The
[1:16:46]
playground wood chips. Um basically this
[1:16:48]
just sets out a plan to regularly manage
[1:16:51]
them and measure them. The ride ofway
[1:16:53]
trees trimming was something we just
[1:16:55]
sort of did every two years. and so we
[1:16:56]
had to cycle it into the budget, but
[1:16:58]
this now concretes that I would like to
[1:17:01]
make a minor edit to strike starting
[1:17:02]
year 2026 because it's it's not needed.
[1:17:05]
Um the way this was originally lined out
[1:17:08]
changed. I added that next review time
[1:17:11]
column to give more clear direction so
[1:17:13]
people didn't have to sit there and do
[1:17:14]
the math. So the starting year 2026 is
[1:17:16]
actually um a new point. Now, the
[1:17:20]
contract services um that's actually
[1:17:22]
where that change came into place
[1:17:24]
because council has sort of a standing
[1:17:26]
motion that we would in theory review
[1:17:28]
these every 3 years and but that motion
[1:17:31]
is very very very old. Um the overall
[1:17:34]
goal of this policy is not only to make
[1:17:37]
things explicit and clear for any staff,
[1:17:39]
any council member, any member of the
[1:17:41]
public about when we promise to do these
[1:17:44]
things. It's also to create continuity
[1:17:46]
in our leadership so that we have um
[1:17:50]
kind of a very clear direction for the
[1:17:52]
city on an annual to like every two-year
[1:17:55]
basis and we're not kind of changing
[1:17:58]
direction repeatedly. So by clearly
[1:18:02]
expressing that we're going to review
[1:18:03]
our audit services every three years
[1:18:05]
like this, it doesn't become a
[1:18:07]
relationship where we make may feel like
[1:18:10]
they've done something wrong or we're
[1:18:12]
not serving us well. It's a policy that
[1:18:14]
we've written in the Greek poo. Same
[1:18:15]
with our uh legal representation. At
[1:18:18]
five years, council would take up the
[1:18:19]
item, talk about it, see if we want to
[1:18:21]
go out for um you know, uh proposals.
[1:18:26]
Thank you. I couldn't remember it was
[1:18:28]
bit of proposal, but it doesn't become a
[1:18:30]
relationship where, you know, we imply
[1:18:32]
that we're unsatisfied. It's just kind
[1:18:34]
of a routine schedule of maintenance is
[1:18:36]
the goal for this. I tried to capture
[1:18:38]
everything. Of course, if I miss
[1:18:39]
something, um, you know, that might need
[1:18:42]
to be taken up. The only policy that's
[1:18:44]
not in here is this policy itself. Um,
[1:18:47]
so that explains that. Does anyone have
[1:18:50]
any questions for me about it?
[1:18:58]
» Any other comments or concerns?
[1:19:02]
>> All right. All in favor? Yes, sir.
[1:19:05]
>> I'd like to comment, please.
[1:19:07]
To start, remember this is not simply a
[1:19:09]
schedule that is being posted on a
[1:19:12]
office wall as a reminder to anyone as
[1:19:14]
to when it might be good to review the
[1:19:16]
listed policies. No, this is a policy
[1:19:19]
obscinely restricting anyone from
[1:19:22]
considering updating outside of this
[1:19:24]
arbitrary timeline.
[1:19:27]
Anyone is already free to create their
[1:19:29]
own schedule for themselves as to when
[1:19:31]
might be a good time to review the
[1:19:33]
listed policy. Everyone is free not to
[1:19:36]
present up to policy for council
[1:19:38]
consideration based on their own
[1:19:40]
schedule. This resolution is designed to
[1:19:42]
prevent council members who wish to take
[1:19:44]
up reviewing or updating council policy
[1:19:47]
from submitting and or improving any
[1:19:50]
such improvements to their policy.
[1:19:52]
Council, I will ask you to consider who
[1:19:55]
this resolution serves as it certainly
[1:19:58]
does not serve council and their
[1:20:00]
legislative duties. It serves to
[1:20:02]
restricts council's ability to serve the
[1:20:04]
city and its citizens as well as it
[1:20:07]
violates open meeting act and the
[1:20:09]
attorney general's opinion on such the
[1:20:12]
mayor's mindset regarding council
[1:20:14]
carrying out their official duties is on
[1:20:16]
full display again. She thinks that our
[1:20:19]
legislative responsibilities are
[1:20:20]
excessive and redundant. This policy
[1:20:23]
attempts to supersede or alter our
[1:20:25]
conduct of meetings policy by creating
[1:20:28]
additional hardships and barriers and
[1:20:30]
additional bureaucracy on auton
[1:20:32]
council's ability to respond in a timely
[1:20:34]
manner to situations as they arise.
[1:20:38]
Council needs to remain nimble and free
[1:20:40]
to address issues as they see fit. The
[1:20:43]
intent of this policy is to make it more
[1:20:45]
difficult to present items on council's
[1:20:48]
agenda. I mean, what the heck? a
[1:20:49]
unanimous vote before even allowing an
[1:20:52]
item to land on the agenda
[1:20:54]
[clears throat]
[1:20:54]
and then creating an additional high
[1:20:57]
threshold of a supermajority vote to
[1:21:00]
approve that item when no state law
[1:21:02]
requires such thresholds.
[1:21:05]
The resolution states stated threshold
[1:21:08]
of requiring a unanimous vote in order
[1:21:11]
for council to submit an item related to
[1:21:13]
any listed issue violates the open
[1:21:16]
meetings act in that while council is
[1:21:19]
free to create a policy governing their
[1:21:22]
agenda preparation. The net effect of
[1:21:25]
such policies cannot preclude a council
[1:21:28]
member from placing an item on their
[1:21:30]
agenda for public discussion. Also, the
[1:21:33]
attorney general's opinion as to the
[1:21:35]
opens meeting that as it relates to
[1:21:37]
council's ability to place items on
[1:21:40]
council's agenda is that it is important
[1:21:42]
to ensure that policy requires no more
[1:21:45]
than two council members to agree to
[1:21:48]
place an item on the agenda. Attorney
[1:21:51]
General number DN-228193.
[1:21:56]
As a result, an item can only be removed
[1:22:00]
from the agenda by the council member
[1:22:02]
who placed it on the agenda or by a
[1:22:04]
majority vote of council at an open
[1:22:07]
meeting. This re resolution goes far, beyond that. Imagine if council were
[1:22:13]
to create a policy that required a
[1:22:15]
unanimous vote for any item that the
[1:22:16]
mayor may wish to submit to council's
[1:22:18]
agenda and that in order for the mayor's
[1:22:20]
item to pass required a supermajority
[1:22:23]
vote. If that sounds shocking to you,
[1:22:26]
and you are not opposed to the mayor
[1:22:28]
attempting to obstruct council's
[1:22:30]
official duties and their ability to
[1:22:32]
place items on their own agenda with
[1:22:34]
this ridiculous resolution, I would ask
[1:22:36]
that you review your reaction. If you
[1:22:40]
are horrified by my hypothetical
[1:22:42]
restriction regarding the mayor, how can
[1:22:44]
you not be glorified by the mayor's
[1:22:46]
attempt to restrict the very legislative
[1:22:48]
body that is given the responsibility to
[1:22:51]
legislate? We are an aldermatic form of
[1:22:53]
government.
[1:22:54]
A beautiful, sometimes cumbersome,
[1:22:56]
elegant form of democracy. Council is
[1:22:59]
the governing body. Council's agenda is
[1:23:02]
named such for a reason. It is not
[1:23:04]
called the mayor's agenda. It is
[1:23:05]
council's agenda. Council is a
[1:23:08]
legislated branch of this government.
[1:23:10]
Legislative and policymaking power rests
[1:23:12]
exclusively with the full city council.
[1:23:15]
The mayor is the chief executive
[1:23:17]
officer. the mayor execute council's
[1:23:20]
action as well as prepares the proposed
[1:23:22]
budget and is the emergency manager.
[1:23:24]
Nothing in those state listed duties of
[1:23:26]
a mayor is about creating policy. That
[1:23:29]
responsibility rests entirely on
[1:23:31]
council's shoulders.
[1:23:33]
If council does move forward with
[1:23:35]
approving this resolution as presented,
[1:23:37]
let's consider what effect that has on
[1:23:40]
council's ability to address situation
[1:23:42]
and changes as they present themselves.
[1:23:45]
For instance, the city administr
[1:23:48]
administrator recently presented to
[1:23:50]
council an interesting idea that council
[1:23:52]
seemed to support which would require
[1:23:54]
council to update the liaison policy and
[1:23:57]
create the city clerk as the new leaison
[1:23:59]
for advisory boards and remove the mayor
[1:24:01]
from that role. This resolution would
[1:24:04]
could prevent anyone, council members,
[1:24:06]
the mayor or staff from presenting an
[1:24:08]
updated liaison policy on council's
[1:24:10]
agenda without first obtaining the toma
[1:24:13]
violating requirement of a unanimous
[1:24:15]
vote. Imagine one member of council
[1:24:17]
could prevent the update to the liaison
[1:24:19]
policy even though a majority of council
[1:24:22]
may support the change or even a
[1:24:24]
supermajority as this policy describes.
[1:24:26]
This resolution states the first time an
[1:24:29]
update to the liaison policy could be
[1:24:31]
considered is in 2028.
[1:24:33]
Remember this resolution would go into
[1:24:36]
effect immediately upon passage.
[1:24:39]
You may be thinking to yourself, but
[1:24:41]
council would understand that an update
[1:24:43]
to the VAN policy would need to come
[1:24:45]
before council. Therefore, it is obvious
[1:24:47]
that a unanimous vote would be would
[1:24:49]
occur. But remember that council is not
[1:24:51]
allowed to discuss the content of a
[1:24:53]
proposed future business item being
[1:24:55]
presented. Coun a council member may
[1:24:58]
simply state they wish could bring an
[1:24:59]
update to the leaison policy or any
[1:25:02]
policy during the future business
[1:25:04]
portion of an agenda and council would
[1:25:06]
be voting on allowing that item to onto
[1:25:09]
the agenda. And yet one nay vote would
[1:25:12]
prevent that item being considered by
[1:25:14]
the rest of council when if council was
[1:25:16]
allowed to consider the item it may have
[1:25:18]
passed. So giving the power to one
[1:25:21]
member of council to preclude other
[1:25:22]
members of council from being able to
[1:25:24]
add an item to council's agenda would be
[1:25:27]
a disservice to the majority of council
[1:25:29]
good leg legislative practice and
[1:25:31]
frankly violates TOMA. Again, the net
[1:25:34]
effect of city policies cannot prevent a
[1:25:36]
council member from placing an item on
[1:25:39]
their agenda for public discussion.
[1:25:42]
Interestingly enough, I submitted an
[1:25:44]
item and received a required second
[1:25:46]
months ago to update the conduct of
[1:25:48]
meetings policy which includes the
[1:25:50]
agenda preparation guidelines. And if
[1:25:52]
council were to adopt this resolution
[1:25:54]
before you as presented, it would
[1:25:56]
prevent my item from coming before
[1:25:58]
council. The reason I am bringing this
[1:26:00]
update to the count conduct of meeting
[1:26:02]
relates to this very issue I am
[1:26:04]
addressing which is that I see that the
[1:26:06]
mayor is interpreting policy
[1:26:08]
restrictions should only be applied to
[1:26:10]
council members when policy clearly
[1:26:12]
states that is the item not the who
[1:26:15]
restrictions apply to. I'm not sure that
[1:26:17]
council intended that council members
[1:26:19]
would have a more difficult time placing
[1:26:21]
items on their own agenda than anyone
[1:26:24]
else being wish to place items in front
[1:26:25]
of council. I certainly did not intend
[1:26:28]
the policy to be applied like that when
[1:26:29]
I voted I. The mayor certainly does not
[1:26:32]
apply these policy restrictions to her
[1:26:34]
own items which she wishes council to
[1:26:36]
consider. It should be noted that I have
[1:26:39]
submitted items that I ultimately
[1:26:41]
withdrew because the mayor created
[1:26:43]
additional steps and requirements not
[1:26:45]
listed in our submission policy in order
[1:26:47]
for my item submission to be
[1:26:51]
on the agenda. So I remove submitting.
[1:26:54]
That is not how this should work. Nor
[1:26:56]
should my mayor consider herself an
[1:26:59]
adversary to council legislative
[1:27:01]
responsibilities to consider and
[1:27:03]
entertain ideas beyond her own. Again,
[1:27:07]
this is the same issue. Council's
[1:27:09]
ability to place items on their council
[1:27:11]
agenda and respond to situations,
[1:27:14]
changes, and new ideas. Council's
[1:27:17]
legislative duty should not be
[1:27:19]
obstructed in this manner and it should
[1:27:21]
not be imposed by an arbitrary schedule
[1:27:23]
and extreme threshold that is seen in
[1:27:26]
this resolution. There is another aspect
[1:27:29]
to this schedule that I wish to bring to
[1:27:30]
your attention which is that some of the
[1:27:32]
policies listed are scheduled for two 3
[1:27:36]
and 5 years before allowed to be
[1:27:39]
considered by this or any future
[1:27:40]
council. Council's terms are for two
[1:27:43]
years though staggered. Imagine someone
[1:27:46]
running for council on a particular idea
[1:27:48]
of updating one of these policies and
[1:27:50]
the citizens elect that person to
[1:27:52]
office. There is a likelihood if this
[1:27:54]
resolution is adopted as president
[1:27:56]
presented that they could be prevented
[1:27:59]
from ever being able to represent the
[1:28:01]
citizens and present the policy update
[1:28:04]
to council. Remember, this resolution
[1:28:06]
attempts to create a unanimous vote
[1:28:09]
threshold to even consider an any of the
[1:28:13]
policy items listed.
[1:28:16]
But let's break it down to the basics.
[1:28:18]
As it currently stands, in order for a
[1:28:20]
council member to sit and submit an item
[1:28:23]
to council's agenda, they must first
[1:28:25]
request a second from another council
[1:28:27]
member before during the future business
[1:28:29]
portion of an regular council meeting.
[1:28:32]
And then the submitted item will be
[1:28:34]
placed on council's agenda between 3 to
[1:28:36]
6 months in the future after meeting
[1:28:39]
certain requirements such as meetings
[1:28:40]
with the city administrator if the item
[1:28:42]
proposes to spend money etc. By not
[1:28:45]
adopting this resolution as presented
[1:28:48]
all that still stands. This resolution
[1:28:51]
restricts 30 restricts 36 issues from
[1:28:54]
being taken up outside of this arbitrary
[1:28:57]
schedule. It creates a total of
[1:28:59]
violation by requiring more than two
[1:29:01]
members approving placing an item on
[1:29:04]
council's agenda. It creates the
[1:29:06]
possible violation of preventing a
[1:29:08]
member of council being able to submit
[1:29:10]
items to council's agenda. And it
[1:29:12]
creates a supermajority vote to approve
[1:29:14]
such review or updates where no such
[1:29:17]
threshold is legally required. It
[1:29:20]
attempts to strike at the very heart the
[1:29:22]
bedrock principle of council's ability
[1:29:24]
to legislate and control their agenda.
[1:29:27]
Let the mayor or staff place the
[1:29:28]
schedule on their walls as reminders to
[1:29:30]
themselves as to when it might be a good
[1:29:32]
time to review and take a look at
[1:29:35]
updating the policies listed, but leave
[1:29:37]
in the dumpster outback any attempts at
[1:29:39]
restricting council's ability to respond
[1:29:42]
to real life. There appears to be a
[1:29:44]
motive of efficiency in this resolution.
[1:29:46]
I would argue that it is more efficient
[1:29:48]
for this legislative body to get things
[1:29:50]
right and working for the citizens of
[1:29:53]
our fair city than to simply allow an
[1:29:55]
issue to go unreed for years. Sometimes
[1:29:58]
getting it right involves trying things
[1:30:00]
out and seeing what works and seeing
[1:30:02]
what doesn't work. Why would anyone
[1:30:05]
consider good practice to restrict their
[1:30:07]
own ability to learn and make things
[1:30:09]
better? It's amazing this policies
[1:30:12]
policy is being presented by a former
[1:30:14]
educator.
[1:30:15]
I do not believe that it is good
[1:30:17]
leadership to set up a situation where
[1:30:20]
everyone fails because they place
[1:30:22]
arbitrary additional restrictions on any
[1:30:25]
attempts to correct or even simply
[1:30:27]
review their own work. Life and the
[1:30:30]
changes that come with them do not abide
[1:30:32]
by arbitrary schedules, nor do new ideas
[1:30:35]
and perspectives about issues. Sometimes
[1:30:37]
you have to try something out for a bit
[1:30:39]
before you realize there are elements of
[1:30:40]
it that do not work. Council needs the
[1:30:43]
flexibility to easily address those
[1:30:45]
non-working elements or changes in
[1:30:47]
perspective unobstructed. It should not
[1:30:50]
be the mayor's decision as to what
[1:30:51]
qualifies as excessive and redundant
[1:30:54]
review and updating of policies.
[1:30:57]
Council's action should remain with the
[1:30:59]
legislative body who to decide on base a
[1:31:03]
case-bycase basis. Simply put, this is
[1:31:06]
bad policy in its current state.
[1:31:10]
>> [clears throat and cough]
[1:31:12]
>> Mayor, yeah, if possible, um, maybe some
[1:31:14]
clarifications might help. Um, for the
[1:31:18]
record, standard,
[1:31:20]
city attorney, factually in my
[1:31:23]
experience, usually a resolution is a
[1:31:26]
directive to staff on administrative
[1:31:29]
matters. And usually with contracts,
[1:31:32]
contract administration,
[1:31:34]
routine review, having a tickler system
[1:31:37]
to kind of bring things back to council.
[1:31:40]
Um, a resolution is a mere uh statement
[1:31:44]
of this administration's
[1:31:47]
um approach, directive.
[1:31:50]
Um, it is not the same thing as city
[1:31:54]
code. the resolution as drafted.
[1:31:59]
I did review it. I didn't catch any
[1:32:02]
issues. I think that's
[1:32:06]
with all due respect to Council Member
[1:32:08]
Grummer.
[1:32:10]
He's real good at analyzing things and
[1:32:13]
spotting issues.
[1:32:15]
I I think there's a little bit of overly
[1:32:18]
broad concern based on hypotheticals.
[1:32:21]
The resolution is preempted by state law
[1:32:25]
in numerous ways. Uh first the Texas
[1:32:28]
Constitution, you can't bind future
[1:32:30]
administrations.
[1:32:32]
You can revisit your own motions and
[1:32:35]
orders. Um, for example, state statute
[1:32:39]
in the financial provisions in the local
[1:32:41]
government code, chapter 111,
[1:32:45]
a bank depository contract has to go out
[1:32:49]
for um solicitation
[1:32:53]
every 5 years. You you're not change
[1:32:56]
this resolution does not change state
[1:32:59]
law. It does not change the open
[1:33:01]
meetings act. It's
[1:33:04]
more of a
[1:33:08]
best practices approach with the intent
[1:33:13]
of capturing concepts like contract
[1:33:16]
management, revisiting things. It's more
[1:33:18]
of a of a
[1:33:21]
aspirational approach. It's not
[1:33:24]
something that's drafted to prohibit
[1:33:28]
this body from addressing things that
[1:33:31]
have to be addressed. So, um the the
[1:33:35]
resolution is is fine in my legal
[1:33:38]
opinion as to legal form.
[1:33:42]
Um and it's up to the local governing
[1:33:45]
body to make its local rules.
[1:33:49]
So, I hope that helps.
[1:33:50]
>> Nice. If I may, since it was my item, um
[1:33:56]
I I do want to kind of um highlight some
[1:34:01]
large or strong wording used. So, this
[1:34:05]
does not prevent a council member from
[1:34:08]
submitting an item. What it says is this
[1:34:11]
is the timeline for when certain items
[1:34:13]
will come back up. So, there is no
[1:34:16]
prohibited motion there. every November,
[1:34:18]
for example, the council rules and
[1:34:20]
meeting procedure would come back up and
[1:34:23]
a council member could submit the item
[1:34:25]
in advance with a second and then the
[1:34:29]
reconsideration would come onto the
[1:34:31]
agenda and in my mind by asking for the
[1:34:34]
unanimous approval that was protecting
[1:34:36]
the entire body. That was my intent
[1:34:39]
because you all would then collectively
[1:34:42]
decide if you wanted to bring back up
[1:34:44]
that policy again. And actually there
[1:34:47]
was a a history here. So not a future um
[1:34:52]
hypothetical that occurred. We actually
[1:34:54]
took up the council rules and meetings
[1:34:56]
procedure policy I think three or four
[1:34:58]
times in a a two month period one time
[1:35:02]
uh with council squabbbling over details
[1:35:05]
in it. And while I respect that process,
[1:35:08]
that was very, very difficult for staff
[1:35:10]
and the administrative team leading the
[1:35:12]
city at the time because it repetitively
[1:35:15]
changed how our meetings ran like back
[1:35:18]
to back to back. And so that was part of
[1:35:20]
that. Um, so that that isn't being
[1:35:23]
changed. You all would still have the
[1:35:24]
right to bring things up. It would just
[1:35:26]
require all of y'all agreeing to do that
[1:35:28]
after you've already agreed to pass
[1:35:30]
something. That's the other thing is
[1:35:32]
this. These are not new policies. I
[1:35:33]
haven't snuck anything in there. These
[1:35:35]
are things that y'all all voted on. For
[1:35:37]
example, the county council meetings and
[1:35:40]
rules and procedure policy you all
[1:35:42]
unanimously approved just in January,
[1:35:45]
>> right? So to already be bringing that
[1:35:47]
back up in three months, I felt
[1:35:50]
personally was a little disrespectful
[1:35:52]
towards council. The only reason that
[1:35:55]
item isn't on an agenda already is
[1:35:58]
because council member Gummer expressed
[1:36:00]
that he would not be in this meeting
[1:36:01]
today. Right. So the next possible
[1:36:05]
meeting he could have had it was in
[1:36:07]
August because at the timeline of when
[1:36:09]
we'd submitted we were already
[1:36:11]
publishing the June agenda and he was
[1:36:14]
told that agenda was full with other
[1:36:16]
administrative items. So he was not
[1:36:18]
rejected. He expressed at that time the
[1:36:21]
next time would be August. I have with
[1:36:23]
him communicated with another item. He
[1:36:27]
declined to have it placed because he
[1:36:28]
wanted to wait until the entire
[1:36:30]
comprehensive plan process was in
[1:36:32]
process for the survey questions to come
[1:36:34]
back up. He did revoke a surveillance
[1:36:36]
policy item. We all had that discussion
[1:36:39]
with Stan in a meeting actually where
[1:36:41]
the reason I asked for him to have an a
[1:36:45]
an additional obstacle as he called it
[1:36:48]
is I asked for the policy to be legally
[1:36:50]
reviewed and I highlighted that part of
[1:36:52]
it was an ordinance and part of it was a
[1:36:54]
resolution and that neither portions
[1:36:56]
were prepared in those formats and I
[1:36:59]
requested that he break them out. I also
[1:37:02]
cautioned on the use of government
[1:37:04]
surveillance or public surveillance
[1:37:05]
terminology and as we presented in that
[1:37:08]
meeting that was not the appropriate
[1:37:10]
terminology for the security cameras we
[1:37:13]
were attempting to assault. So I am
[1:37:14]
explaining myself there because I don't
[1:37:16]
appreciate the um misconception of my
[1:37:20]
actions. Also I just reviewed the
[1:37:22]
council liaison policy and actually we
[1:37:24]
revoked we repealed the council liaison
[1:37:27]
policy. Um what's in place now is
[1:37:30]
actually just says I'm the liazison
[1:37:32]
which as I communicated in that meeting
[1:37:34]
I would still be serving in those roles.
[1:37:36]
I just wouldn't necessarily be attending
[1:37:38]
the meetings. I would be watching them
[1:37:40]
and I would still be the representative
[1:37:41]
between the two boards. So that's not
[1:37:44]
actually um an issue there either. Um
[1:37:49]
you know I I don't think there's
[1:37:50]
anything wrong with this policy.
[1:37:52]
Obviously I brought it up. Um, I um
[1:37:57]
firmly reject the concept that this
[1:37:59]
wouldn't apply to me because if I needed
[1:38:01]
to bring up any of these policies, I
[1:38:04]
would have to follow this policy. So, I
[1:38:06]
don't circumvent it. For every item I
[1:38:08]
bring to you all, I get a second. The
[1:38:11]
only items that I don't do that with are
[1:38:14]
not things I'm a sponsor for, meaning
[1:38:15]
they're administrative tasks that
[1:38:17]
maintenance the function of our city or
[1:38:19]
they're coming from other boards or
[1:38:21]
other entities. Um and so those you know
[1:38:25]
most of that if anything has been new
[1:38:27]
has been brought forward with the second
[1:38:29]
as well. So, isn't it
[1:38:32]
>> I just wanted to say that
[1:38:35]
I read this more in the the light of
[1:38:38]
what our our attorney said is that it
[1:38:42]
struck me from the beginning as things
[1:38:43]
that had always been important to me in
[1:38:46]
administration of government and that's
[1:38:48]
better practices not
[1:38:52]
missing deadlines, legal deadlines and I
[1:38:56]
and and contract agent
[1:38:59]
but that's our our responsibility
[1:39:02]
and I just I didn't see anything in this
[1:39:04]
that would restrict us from coming back.
[1:39:14]
Um well there are a few things already
[1:39:17]
that I'd like to see changed. I'd like
[1:39:19]
to see golf cart crossing paintings
[1:39:23]
more often than every three years.
[1:39:27]
That's just not often enough. Um, I'd
[1:39:30]
like to see the audit services changed.
[1:39:34]
Uh, not limited three years. We
[1:39:37]
continued our audit year this year
[1:39:40]
because it was necessary for the pro
[1:39:43]
progress. I think this is way too far
[1:39:47]
and I would like for council member to
[1:39:51]
restate his original motion. I was
[1:39:55]
trying to understand all the facets of
[1:39:58]
it. You know, I didn't have the
[1:40:00]
opportunity to um say that.
[1:40:05]
>> Well, you did have an opportunity.
[1:40:06]
Second, you didn't feel like there was
[1:40:08]
enough time,
[1:40:09]
>> but I I mean, if I may,
[1:40:12]
um to me, the conversations here
[1:40:18]
sort of we we agree that you know, a a
[1:40:21]
schedule is a good thing. It seems like
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the main sticking point is requiring a
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unanimous vote um and a supermajority
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vote um where I I personally don't think
[1:40:36]
that the the schedule or the resolution
[1:40:40]
um would suffer by just removing that
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one clause. And I would offer an
[1:40:47]
amendment that um the clause on
[1:40:50]
requiring unanimous vote
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um for discussion um be scripted.
[1:40:57]
>> Second.
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>> All right. Amendment on the table
[1:41:00]
strikes under the third resolve
[1:41:04]
require a unanimous vote from the
[1:41:06]
governing body to take up for
[1:41:07]
discussion.
[1:41:09]
>> Second.
[1:41:10]
>> That's that's great. I don't have a
[1:41:12]
problem with that amendment. I would
[1:41:13]
like to speak to my intentions that
[1:41:15]
someone chose to spoke for for me
[1:41:17]
tonight. Again, it's was just to protect
[1:41:20]
you all so that we don't have one or two
[1:41:22]
council members submitting things
[1:41:26]
repetitively or wanting to reconsider
[1:41:28]
things after you all have voted.
[1:41:32]
So that was it
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>> and that was an amendment.
[1:41:35]
>> I would amend second by council.
[1:41:38]
>> Oh yeah, I didn't hear that. Thank you.
[1:41:40]
>> Thank you. And that is based on reality
[1:41:42]
because over the course of the last five
[1:41:45]
years that has said occurred at least
[1:41:48]
three different times.
[1:41:49]
>> What has occurred
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>> where a single
[1:41:53]
this is not a hypothetical this occurred
[1:41:55]
here
[1:41:56]
>> where policies were brought back
[1:41:58]
repetitively
[1:42:00]
um because a single council member was
[1:42:02]
not and it wasn't a single person
[1:42:05]
either. This was three to four different
[1:42:07]
people bringing back policies every
[1:42:09]
single meeting to tweak and tweak and
[1:42:12]
tweak because they didn't get their way
[1:42:13]
in the previous meeting. So, we spent
[1:42:16]
probably about six hours total on one
[1:42:19]
policy um ping ponging back and forth
[1:42:21]
again in another one.
[1:42:24]
I know that you might find no problem
[1:42:27]
with that, but I can tell you from
[1:42:29]
working with three different
[1:42:31]
administrative staffs now that our staff
[1:42:34]
does not appreciate when our council
[1:42:37]
cannot give them a clear directive and
[1:42:41]
stick to it. It becomes very difficult
[1:42:43]
to manage this city. We have lost two
[1:42:46]
previous city administrators over these
[1:42:50]
kind of things. If I'm being completely
[1:42:53]
honest, obviously they also left for
[1:42:54]
other reasons, but these were huge
[1:42:58]
complaints from them. So my goal with
[1:43:00]
this was to create a protection for all
[1:43:04]
of us and our time and you guys have
[1:43:08]
struck that point. So that's address. I
[1:43:11]
just wanted to speak for myself instead
[1:43:13]
of having somebody um speak for me which
[1:43:16]
I don't find appropriate.
[1:43:18]
You have spoken twice. Does anyone else
[1:43:20]
have any comments? You actually issued
[1:43:23]
an original motion, spent over 6 minutes
[1:43:25]
speaking the first time. Does any other
[1:43:27]
council member have an additional
[1:43:28]
comment before Chris Gmer speaks for
[1:43:30]
what he perceives to be his second time?
[1:43:35]
» No. All right, Council Member Germit,
[1:43:38]
>> you have the floor again.
[1:43:40]
>> Over the last 5 years of service on
[1:43:42]
council, I can easily sum up what I've
[1:43:44]
stood up for and my goals as a
[1:43:46]
representative of the citizens of this
[1:43:48]
fair city. that is that the beautiful
[1:43:50]
and elegant system the state has handed
[1:43:53]
down to us as an aldermatic form of
[1:43:55]
government here in Wood Creek is
[1:43:57]
preserved and protected and even
[1:44:00]
encouraged to become an exemplary
[1:44:02]
example of democracy in action. I have
[1:44:05]
run on the very ideal of a government
[1:44:07]
that works for the people. Believe me
[1:44:10]
when I say I've gained no pleasure in
[1:44:13]
calling out where, when, and whom of us
[1:44:16]
fail to uphold these others. I
[1:44:18]
understand well the experiences of being
[1:44:20]
called out for my own failings.
[1:44:23]
I have spent these last five years
[1:44:25]
researching, questioning, and fighting
[1:44:28]
for the system of government by which
[1:44:30]
the citizens are best represented. It is
[1:44:33]
better to have a team of these five
[1:44:35]
elected council members exploring the
[1:44:37]
best path forward in representing the
[1:44:39]
people than it is for one person to
[1:44:41]
attempt to make all the decisions.
[1:44:43]
Regardless of how smart an individual
[1:44:45]
may be, a single person has a hard time
[1:44:48]
finding their blinding spots or those
[1:44:51]
perspectives that they have not yet
[1:44:53]
considered. Whereas five council members
[1:44:56]
of diverse perspectives, experiences,
[1:44:59]
and ideas is more likely to find
[1:45:01]
solutions otherwise not considered.
[1:45:04]
I want to apologize to the mayor for it
[1:45:06]
may seem to some that I have been giving
[1:45:08]
her a hard time since she has taken this
[1:45:10]
on this role as mayor. It is not because I don't think she is
[1:45:16]
capable and intelligent and fit for the
[1:45:18]
role as mayor. Actually, it is quite the
[1:45:21]
opposite. It is because I have such high
[1:45:24]
standards for her, having known her
[1:45:26]
these many years, serving next to her,
[1:45:29]
that I know she is more than capable of
[1:45:31]
doing better for working towards
[1:45:33]
representing the best of our community.
[1:45:35]
It is because I care that she succeeds
[1:45:38]
in her role that I may appear to push
[1:45:40]
her harder. A long time ago, I
[1:45:44]
approached a teacher of mine and told
[1:45:46]
her that I felt she was singling me out
[1:45:48]
more than anyone else in the class and
[1:45:50]
holding me to a higher standard than she
[1:45:52]
was holding the other students. Her
[1:45:54]
response has always stayed with me. She
[1:45:57]
told me it is because she knows that I
[1:45:59]
am capable. That is why she is has a
[1:46:02]
higher standard of criticism for me. If
[1:46:04]
she did not believe that I was capable,
[1:46:06]
she wouldn't waste her time. I hold
[1:46:09]
grace for all of us to grow and learn
[1:46:11]
and become better at representing this
[1:46:13]
beautiful messy democracy we find
[1:46:16]
ourselves in. But I will also hold the
[1:46:18]
sword to fight for council's fundamental
[1:46:21]
ability to fully realize, discuss,
[1:46:25]
change their minds to create better
[1:46:27]
solutions and to allow messy
[1:46:29]
disagreements to happen as part of that
[1:46:31]
process.
[1:46:33]
Things do not become better simply by
[1:46:36]
placing them on a shelf unexamined. They
[1:46:39]
need to be held up under scrutiny,
[1:46:41]
questioned, and called out. That doesn't
[1:46:44]
mean you do not value it. It means you
[1:46:46]
value it more because you are willing to
[1:46:49]
put in the effort. There is a pervasive
[1:46:51]
mindset of us versus them in our
[1:46:53]
community. But I will point out that very mindset also includes the go
[1:46:58]
along to get along which seems to float
[1:47:00]
around in the air around here.
[1:47:02]
That do not question mindset means you
[1:47:05]
do not care whether the something truly
[1:47:08]
works or not because you place your own
[1:47:10]
feelings of belonging ahead of what
[1:47:12]
actually might be right. I will admit I
[1:47:15]
have fallen prey to this pervasive
[1:47:17]
settling. And what I mean pervasive is
[1:47:20]
that get along don't make waves mindset
[1:47:22]
expresses itself constantly around us
[1:47:25]
including such statements as come back
[1:47:27]
to the table to anyone who is different
[1:47:30]
points of view than those at the table.
[1:47:33]
This mindset is the very process of
[1:47:35]
othering those who may disagree with
[1:47:37]
your perspective and this othering
[1:47:39]
creates you are either with us or you
[1:47:42]
are outsider one of them. This mindset
[1:47:45]
and its expression is immediately
[1:47:47]
created the us versus them divisiveness
[1:47:50]
that so many of this administration has
[1:47:52]
attempted to fuse in the past. It also
[1:47:55]
attempts to invalidate someone's level
[1:47:57]
of commitment and voice on an issue. We
[1:48:00]
are actually in this together.
[1:48:03]
Being a mayor or a council member is not
[1:48:05]
an easy thing to do in a small town such
[1:48:06]
as ours. But please let us not make a
[1:48:09]
disagreement or a mistake become the
[1:48:12]
only identifier of a person. While our
[1:48:14]
mayor presented this ridiculous
[1:48:16]
resolution in front of us is a huge
[1:48:17]
mistake. I do not hold this one misstep
[1:48:20]
as a sum of who she is. These service
[1:48:23]
roles almost require that we will get
[1:48:26]
things wrong sometimes. And that is kind
[1:48:28]
of my whole point here. We need to allow
[1:48:31]
ourselves the ability to learn to
[1:48:33]
correct things and to work to make
[1:48:35]
things better. The resolution as
[1:48:38]
presented assumes that we are living in
[1:48:40]
a non-changing world. That council has
[1:48:42]
previously made the best version of
[1:48:44]
policy ever to exist and no improvements
[1:48:47]
can or should be made and that council
[1:48:49]
cannot learn anything new or adapt to
[1:48:52]
any new new situation that may present
[1:48:54]
itself. That is unrealistic.
[1:48:57]
It is one of the bedrock principles of
[1:48:59]
council's process to review, discuss,
[1:49:02]
question the full implications,
[1:49:04]
identify, and weigh the pros and cons
[1:49:07]
and the context of something in order to
[1:49:09]
create the best fit for our community.
[1:49:11]
Though I sometimes wishfully entertain
[1:49:13]
that I could wave a wand and there would
[1:49:15]
never be a conflict, I know that as
[1:49:17]
often that very conflict that we should
[1:49:20]
be exploring, differing perspectives can
[1:49:23]
create innovative solutions. to hamper
[1:49:25]
that would to leave possibilities
[1:49:27]
undiscovered. Council should continue
[1:49:29]
preserving and protecting their
[1:49:31]
legislative duties and responsibilities
[1:49:33]
from any additional restrictions not
[1:49:36]
already given to us by state and federal
[1:49:38]
law. We should all stand up and protect
[1:49:40]
our obligations regardless of whether or
[1:49:43]
not someone else finds our process
[1:49:46]
objectionable, messy, inefficient,
[1:49:49]
excessive, or redundant.
[1:49:52]
Council member Banning requested to read
[1:49:54]
your um failed motion. Would you please
[1:49:56]
do so?
[1:50:04]
» I move that council directs staff andor
[1:50:07]
the city attorney to make the following
[1:50:09]
edits and return the draft resolution to
[1:50:12]
council for approval.
[1:50:14]
The edits are to remove the third and
[1:50:18]
final result section from this
[1:50:20]
resolution and any creation of a
[1:50:23]
threshold higher for submission
[1:50:26]
of any item to council's agendas or
[1:50:28]
council's final approval on an item on
[1:50:31]
council's agenda than legally required
[1:50:33]
by state law and remove the entire
[1:50:36]
section regarding policy and any
[1:50:39]
reference to in the document pertaining
[1:50:41]
to such specifically the whereas
[1:50:44]
statement about excessive and redundant
[1:50:46]
policy review, leaving only the sections
[1:50:49]
named infrastructure and asset
[1:50:51]
maintenance and contract services and
[1:50:54]
that the resolution makes clear that
[1:50:56]
only these two sections are being
[1:50:58]
addressed by this draft resolution
[1:51:00]
including the warehouse and resolved
[1:51:01]
sections.
[1:51:03]
>> Do we have any further That's not a
[1:51:04]
motion. Um he did not make an amendment.
[1:51:07]
He was responding to your question. Miss
[1:51:09]
Leard,
[1:51:10]
>> just very quickly, I I believe that
[1:51:12]
council member Rasco's
[1:51:15]
amendment addresses many of the things
[1:51:18]
that council member
[1:51:21]
just outlined
[1:51:23]
in the ability to bring back
[1:51:26]
items to council without the unanimous
[1:51:31]
approval of such. That's true.
[1:51:34]
>> All right. Any other additional
[1:51:35]
discussion on this item? Hearing
[1:51:40]
none, you will all have the opportunity
[1:51:41]
to vote. All in favor of passing this
[1:51:43]
resolution with the amendment to strike
[1:51:45]
require unanimous vote from the
[1:51:46]
governing body, please raise your hand
[1:51:48]
and say I.
[1:51:49]
>> You still need to vote on the amendment
[1:51:50]
first.
[1:51:51]
>> Oh, apolog No, really? I thought that
[1:51:53]
Oh, apologies.
[1:51:55]
>> Yeah. So, we'll vote on the amendment.
[1:51:56]
All in favor of the amendment to strike
[1:51:59]
require unanimous vote from the
[1:52:00]
governing body, please raise your hand
[1:52:02]
and say I.
[1:52:03]
>> I.
[1:52:04]
>> So, that is a unanimous vote, I believe.
[1:52:06]
I Yeah. And then on the full main
[1:52:09]
motion, it would be to approve
[1:52:11]
resolution number 2026-07-08-02
[1:52:15]
establishing a schedule for routine
[1:52:17]
maintenance contract review policy
[1:52:18]
review for the city of Lake Creek with
[1:52:20]
the amendment to strike under the third
[1:52:22]
resolve require unanimous vote from the
[1:52:24]
governing body to take up this for
[1:52:26]
discussion. Please raise your hand and
[1:52:29]
say I.
[1:52:31]
>> Three eyes. It passes. Nay. Nay.
[1:52:35]
>> Two nays.
[1:52:41]
And I apologize because um I made a
[1:52:44]
statement that this policy isn't
[1:52:46]
addressed but it is in the end. I was
[1:52:50]
meaning that it's not addressed in the
[1:52:51]
chart and I'm sorry about that
[1:52:55]
[clears throat]
[1:52:56]
>> question on procedure.
[1:52:59]
Does this prevent previously approved
[1:53:02]
items from coming on to? It doesn't
[1:53:05]
prevent them. It would come up in
[1:53:06]
November after the election, heard this
[1:53:08]
policy, unless a council member wanted
[1:53:11]
to bring it up and have a second.
[1:53:13]
>> And then your your item can come back in
[1:53:17]
August. What this says is that it would
[1:53:19]
require a super majority vote to pass
[1:53:21]
it. [clears throat]
[1:53:23]
>> No, we struck that.
[1:53:25]
>> No, we struck unanimous vote for
[1:53:29]
my was
[1:53:32]
>> Yeah. Uh Jeff made sorry
[1:53:37]
required unanimous vote for discussion
[1:53:39]
to be stricken.
[1:53:41]
That's it.
[1:53:42]
>> What I said was that the clause
[1:53:47]
>> the clause requiring the unanimous vote
[1:53:49]
for
[1:53:49]
>> me. That's not what was stated but we
[1:53:52]
can retract and go back if there is
[1:53:55]
confusion here. What was stated was the
[1:53:57]
clause and then you
[1:54:00]
>> only read that section. I was motion to
[1:54:02]
be considered silent.
[1:54:04]
>> I hear you. I'm just explaining that
[1:54:05]
when I restated it, none of that was
[1:54:07]
ever corrected. When I stated what the
[1:54:09]
amendment was, nobody corrected that.
[1:54:12]
>> So you're to be clear trying to strike
[1:54:15]
the entire resolve section.
[1:54:17]
>> That was my intent.
[1:54:18]
>> Okay.
[1:54:19]
>> And that's what I regret.
[1:54:23]
» Okay. So
[1:54:25]
we will reconsider the amendment first.
[1:54:29]
So everyone's clear. You're striking
[1:54:31]
that entire section. All in favor of
[1:54:34]
striking the third resolve in its
[1:54:36]
entirety, please raise your hand and say
[1:54:38]
I.
[1:54:38]
>> I.
[1:54:40]
>> Unanimous I. All in favor of passing the
[1:54:43]
policy with that entire sectional
[1:54:45]
struck, please raise your hand and say
[1:54:46]
I.
[1:54:47]
>> I.
[1:54:48]
>> Three eyes. Passes. Nays. Two.
[1:54:52]
>> All right. Um, I would like to have
[1:54:55]
discussion about your item at a later
[1:54:56]
time, Mr. marked and whenever we are
[1:54:59]
both maybe of cooler heads and not
[1:55:01]
having um been in a meeting with
[1:55:04]
everyone for 8 or till 8:00 right
[1:55:07]
>> mayor if I make a quick comment
[1:55:10]
>> there are always emergency situations
[1:55:12]
where you know something can be brought
[1:55:14]
to council there always situations
[1:55:19]
um that may require revisiting a policy
[1:55:24]
or a code for example the state
[1:55:27]
legislature passes new rules and you
[1:55:30]
need to amend your local rules there. So
[1:55:33]
there's there's always situations
[1:55:36]
um I'm reading the policy to be a
[1:55:39]
baseline for example on road
[1:55:43]
um
[1:55:44]
>> regulations
[1:55:45]
>> regulation
[1:55:46]
devices you know the three years is is
[1:55:50]
again that's a minimum a baseline. It
[1:55:54]
doesn't necessarily preclude
[1:55:57]
if there's an engineering study or if
[1:56:00]
there's if there's a compelling need to
[1:56:02]
bring something back. It's just to
[1:56:05]
revisit it every 3 years or whatever.
[1:56:09]
And but there's but you can address
[1:56:12]
emergency repairs. you can address um
[1:56:16]
any needs that the city has
[1:56:20]
that if there's
[1:56:22]
a legitimate need it can it can be uh
[1:56:25]
directed to staff or there's a way to
[1:56:29]
get there is what I'm saying. So so
[1:56:32]
again you're you're not boxed in
[1:56:35]
completely you there is some discretion
[1:56:38]
obviously u based on the totality
[1:56:41]
surface. So my question is a legal one
[1:56:43]
in that it states. So the question is I
[1:56:47]
submitted several months ago.
[1:56:49]
>> No, in June,
[1:56:51]
>> May. I got my second in May. I actually
[1:56:54]
submitted it in April
[1:56:59]
and I got my second in May or and
[1:57:03]
council agreed to allow me to present
[1:57:06]
onto the agenda and update to the
[1:57:09]
conduct of meetings.
[1:57:11]
Council member Grimmer, that is not on
[1:57:13]
his agenda.
[1:57:14]
>> I'm asking a legal question in regards
[1:57:16]
to the resolution we just passed.
[1:57:20]
The the the question is does the
[1:57:23]
structure of this resolution where it
[1:57:25]
says the update to
[1:57:28]
conductive uh update to the policy of
[1:57:31]
conductive meetings is no longer allowed
[1:57:34]
until this dates much in the future
[1:57:38]
prevent my item that I've already been
[1:57:40]
approved to submit.
[1:57:44]
It's been sitting waiting for months
[1:57:45]
before it land on agenda. which are
[1:57:47]
>> these state facts. That is not true.
[1:57:51]
>> I literally looked it up before I any of
[1:57:54]
this.
[1:57:58]
» But he just said he just said this be
[1:58:00]
your minimum standard. Something that
[1:58:02]
has to come back earlier than what's on
[1:58:03]
here. It [clears throat] comes back
[1:58:05]
earlier than what's on here.
[1:58:06]
>> That's the question. This is not it's
[1:58:09]
not stated as minimum standard.
[1:58:11]
>> The answer is this resolution does not
[1:58:14]
expressly prohibit that. Thank you.
[1:58:16]
>> Now the body
[1:58:19]
makes its own rules and you can revisit
[1:58:22]
rules whenever the body decides to
[1:58:25]
revisit rules pursuant to its
[1:58:28]
procedures. Um so the the agenda item
[1:58:33]
here is this resolution and the answer
[1:58:36]
is no. It's not that restrictive. Um it
[1:58:40]
it's a presumptive
[1:58:43]
>> um baseline.
[1:58:45]
>> So I
[1:58:46]
>> as I already told you earlier, your
[1:58:48]
thing will come up in August. The only
[1:58:51]
reason it didn't come up in sooner is
[1:58:53]
because you were told the June agenda
[1:58:55]
was full and you communicated you did
[1:58:57]
not intend to be here for this meeting
[1:58:59]
>> and and we really need to focus on
[1:59:01]
>> the agenda. Yeah. I ain't saying I'm
[1:59:04]
just clarifying that this you're
[1:59:06]
understanding everyone's understanding.
[1:59:09]
>> Thank you.
[1:59:10]
>> Yes.
[1:59:12]
>> Yeah.
[1:59:13]
Don't fall through the cracks.
[1:59:19]
» That's the way I look.
[1:59:23]
>> Are we done? Is everyone their piece?
[1:59:25]
Thank you. We have a individual here
[1:59:29]
who's um represented for items six and
[1:59:32]
seven. We will call our executive
[1:59:35]
session to consult and receive and seek
[1:59:36]
advice from attorney pursuant to section
[1:59:39]
551.071
[1:59:42]
of the Texas government code regarding
[1:59:44]
legal requirements and procedures for
[1:59:45]
issuance of building permits pursuant to
[1:59:47]
chapter 151 of the city's code of
[1:59:49]
ordinances including but not limited to
[1:59:51]
instances of applicant hardship and
[1:59:53]
related legal considerations.
[1:59:56]
at 801.
[2:00:00]
Um, executive s
[2:00:04]
>> recording progress.
[2:00:07]
>> We're reconvening at 8:24. No action was
[2:00:10]
taken during the executive session. We
[2:00:13]
do have uh a written public comment to
[2:00:15]
read and then we do have the individual
[2:00:17]
applying for the variance here. We'll
[2:00:19]
read the written public comment first.
[2:00:20]
That's okay. and then we'll do the the
[2:00:22]
inerson.
[2:00:23]
>> Okay.
[2:00:24]
>> I should start timer. Sorry.
[2:00:26]
>> Sorry.
[2:00:27]
>> Um this individual submitted a total of
[2:00:29]
three comments actually. So I we are the
[2:00:32]
we're going to start using the timer and
[2:00:35]
uh the city secretary will be reading
[2:00:36]
them.
[2:00:39]
>> Thank you to remove any u political
[2:00:44]
issues with this process. All right. Um
[2:00:49]
go ahead. I notice number seven on our
[2:00:51]
council's regular agenda deals with the
[2:00:53]
spokes law. If this is in any way deals
[2:00:56]
with installation of an above ground
[2:00:57]
pool, please read by below objection
[2:00:59]
into the record. At the time this item
[2:01:01]
comes up for council's consideration as
[2:01:03]
I'm unwilling to take a chance on
[2:01:05]
something that so much affects the
[2:01:06]
appearance of my neighborhood and the
[2:01:08]
value of our homes. I remain completely
[2:01:10]
opposed to these above ground pools.
[2:01:11]
Know that I want restrictions that may
[2:01:13]
go with them. The ordinance should be
[2:01:14]
left as is with no amendments whatsoever
[2:01:16]
in a trust of my opposition to any above
[2:01:19]
ground pool ordinance previously sent to
[2:01:20]
the city secretary. You and others will
[2:01:23]
be read by her at any city council
[2:01:25]
meeting concerning these pools. Sorry, I
[2:01:27]
have practice law for over 15 years and
[2:01:29]
I've seen many unintended consequences
[2:01:32]
of situations like this where just a
[2:01:33]
small opening was left for someone to
[2:01:35]
later utilize like this drought
[2:01:37]
temporarily passing and someone putting
[2:01:38]
in one of these pools before another one
[2:01:40]
comes along. Thank you for your time and
[2:01:42]
your service. Lou Joseph and Elizabeth
[2:01:45]
23.
[2:01:47]
Please note our opposition to any city
[2:01:49]
ordinance in any shape or form which
[2:01:50]
authorize any above ground swimming pool
[2:01:52]
construction. One, city already has an
[2:01:54]
ordinance in place prohibiting any above
[2:01:56]
ground pool construction in order that
[2:01:58]
it was passed for a very good reason.
[2:02:00]
Two, currently there are critical draw
[2:02:02]
restriction signs from the eastern
[2:02:04]
groundwater conservation district around
[2:02:06]
Wood Creek requesting 30% less water
[2:02:08]
use. Three, Jacobsville aquaer is so
[2:02:11]
depleted that the pool can't be used by
[2:02:12]
the public anymore and our aquifer already stressed out as well.
[2:02:17]
Lastly, above ground pools are
[2:02:19]
unattractive and adversely affect
[2:02:21]
property values. We also ask the city
[2:02:23]
secretary to read this objection into
[2:02:25]
the record of any city meeting
[2:02:26]
concerning any above ground pool
[2:02:27]
ordinance as well as reading it to any
[2:02:30]
assembled audience there if possible.
[2:02:31]
Thank you for your time and
[2:02:32]
consideration this matter. Our aquafer
[2:02:35]
property values and the preservation of
[2:02:36]
them are very important to us. Very
[2:02:39]
truly
[2:02:41]
Joseph.
[2:02:43]
Okay. And dear city secretary, please
[2:02:46]
read our belove unconditional opposition
[2:02:47]
to the assembled public and into the
[2:02:49]
record of any proceeding involving any
[2:02:51]
proposed above ground pool ordinance
[2:02:52]
seeking to authorize the construction of
[2:02:54]
above ground pools in the city of Wood
[2:02:56]
Creek. Please read this objection into
[2:02:58]
public comment section to any city
[2:02:59]
council meeting including but not
[2:03:00]
limited to city council meeting
[2:03:02]
scheduled for 892023 and 823 2023. if
[2:03:06]
there are in any way connected with
[2:03:08]
construction and or installation of
[2:03:09]
above ground pools or on the agenda of
[2:03:11]
any other proceeding involing such above
[2:03:13]
ground pools. One, our city has already
[2:03:15]
have in place an ordinance prohibiting
[2:03:16]
any above ground pool construction and
[2:03:18]
we're certain that it was passed for
[2:03:19]
reasons that were good then as well as
[2:03:21]
still doing good now. If it ain't broke,
[2:03:23]
don't fix it. Two, climate change and
[2:03:25]
oils dry out. We're currently in drought
[2:03:27]
restriction emergency with signs all
[2:03:29]
over Wood Creek asking us to lower our
[2:03:30]
water usage by 40%. Jacob's well is
[2:03:33]
close and our own training aquifer is
[2:03:35]
already stressed out as it is. We don't
[2:03:37]
want these pools even if that's 40%
[2:03:38]
figured lower. We know the people near
[2:03:41]
Wood Creek who are now having to water
[2:03:43]
having to have water trucked in because
[2:03:45]
their walls have already jumped. Three
[2:03:46]
above ground pools are Pandora's box, a
[2:03:49]
can of worms that should never be opened
[2:03:50]
for any reason.
[2:03:51]
>> That's it.
[2:03:53]
>> Question. Weren't these three different
[2:03:55]
people?
[2:03:55]
>> He
[2:03:57]
Okay.
[2:03:57]
>> Yeah. in the thing it says, "Please read
[2:04:00]
any future past
[2:04:04]
they've ever submitted." So,
[2:04:05]
>> yeah. And then when I So, statement of
[2:04:08]
fact, um, swim spas are not above ground
[2:04:11]
pools per our code. Um, so when I did
[2:04:16]
inform him of that, he did not retract
[2:04:19]
his comment. So, we proceeded with
[2:04:21]
reading it as it was submitted in
[2:04:24]
addition to his other comments for his
[2:04:26]
request.
[2:04:28]
All right, we're going to move into item
[2:04:29]
number seven regarding the request for
[2:04:32]
the installation of a swim school and
[2:04:34]
allowing the permit process to commence
[2:04:36]
for 74 Champion Circle.
[2:04:39]
Do I have a motion?
[2:04:44]
to approve a request for the
[2:04:46]
installation of the slope spa and allow
[2:04:47]
the permitting process to commence for
[2:04:49]
74 champions.
[2:04:59]
Motion fails for lack of second
[2:05:03]
a different motion or
[2:05:05]
>> Well, I wanted to hear from the
[2:05:08]
resident.
[2:05:08]
>> I I apologize.
[2:05:11]
No, I'm sorry. Yeah, I
[2:05:12]
>> I know you were doing a motion and then
[2:05:14]
she talks and then
[2:05:16]
>> I I just tell her she could speak before
[2:05:18]
we typically with the items going to
[2:05:20]
have a motion to open it up and I
[2:05:21]
apologize. Please, if you would like to
[2:05:23]
issue a comment now, that would be
[2:05:24]
appropriate. Well, I'm just grateful to
[2:05:27]
be here and it's been an honor to sit
[2:05:28]
and watch y'all do your job and I'm
[2:05:31]
thankful to be in the city with such
[2:05:34]
great leaders and so thank you for
[2:05:37]
having me and hearing me and I am here
[2:05:40]
to request a variance to the moratorum
[2:05:44]
that I wasn't aware of. I just wasn't
[2:05:47]
aware of it. I would have bought the
[2:05:50]
swim spa if I was aware of it. I mean, I
[2:05:52]
wouldn't have done that. Um, but uh I
[2:05:55]
did for my healing and I've been
[2:05:59]
watching it sit there for 6 weeks when I
[2:06:01]
should have been in it healing and I
[2:06:04]
look forward to healing with it. I hope
[2:06:06]
and pray that you will grant the
[2:06:08]
variance. Uh I do uh have several
[2:06:11]
medical conditions that I believe this
[2:06:15]
will cure. So
[2:06:19]
I'm not going to use your water or our
[2:06:21]
water. I'm having the water uh hauled in
[2:06:25]
and uh I don't do any topping off of the
[2:06:28]
uh feeding of the swim spa with rain
[2:06:31]
water collection or have it trucked in
[2:06:34]
as well. I don't want to be this this
[2:06:36]
stuff the spot and it's going on granite
[2:06:40]
so it's not going on concrete
[2:06:42]
[clears throat]
[2:06:43]
and um
[2:06:46]
and I just believe that that I've healed
[2:06:49]
with this swim spot and I have a
[2:06:52]
doctor's prescription.
[2:06:54]
>> That's a good question that I haven't
[2:06:56]
actually found out about yet. Is this
[2:07:00]
any ground?
[2:07:02]
>> It It's And I have a deck around it and
[2:07:05]
it's lovely. I think
[2:07:09]
>> it's
[2:07:10]
a five ground spa. Swimming spa.
[2:07:13]
>> It's not a pool.
[2:07:15]
>> But you're digging a big hole.
[2:07:18]
>> No, no, not digging a hole. It's going
[2:07:20]
to have a granite slab to be placed on
[2:07:22]
and then a decking around it.
[2:07:26]
Okay, we do need a motion before we get
[2:07:29]
into Q&A, please. Um, so if we could
[2:07:32]
have a motion on the table.
[2:07:34]
>> Thank you for hearing me.
[2:07:38]
And my name is Laura. I didn't introduce
[2:07:40]
myself.
[2:07:42]
Thank you.
[2:07:44]
And this is my first home, so I'm I'm
[2:07:47]
learning all kinds of things about home
[2:07:49]
ownership and and this city. So, and
[2:07:53]
your rules.
[2:07:55]
specified.
[2:07:57]
>> Thank you. So, um, council, we do need a
[2:07:59]
motion to either approve or deny the
[2:08:01]
variance. Um, we I don't know what the
[2:08:04]
proper rules on not taking it up at all,
[2:08:06]
but I would request that we either
[2:08:08]
approve or deny the variance.
[2:08:11]
I move that we take action to approve
[2:08:16]
request for installation of a swim spa
[2:08:20]
and allow the the permitting process to
[2:08:24]
commence for 74 champions.
[2:08:29]
>> We have a second.
[2:08:30]
>> I'll second.
[2:08:31]
>> So we have a second for discussion
[2:08:32]
purposes. Council member Bailey made the
[2:08:34]
motion as stated in the packet. Council
[2:08:36]
member Richardson is a second. Um so
[2:08:40]
clarifying details uh swim spas or at
[2:08:43]
least this one in particular and
[2:08:45]
typically it's all above ground. They're
[2:08:46]
basically really really large hot tubs.
[2:08:49]
Um and I will caution you though that
[2:08:53]
your um your impervious coverage you
[2:08:58]
barely got the swim spa under it. I do
[2:09:02]
not believe additional debt being would
[2:09:04]
be covered. And so if they choose to
[2:09:06]
approve your variance tonight, you would
[2:09:08]
need to work with city administrator
[2:09:09]
Burton on that concept because you might
[2:09:12]
not be able to install the decking you
[2:09:13]
wish. And if they do choose to approve
[2:09:16]
your variance tonight, you would still
[2:09:18]
have to go through the permit
[2:09:20]
application process where you would need
[2:09:21]
to approve the rainwater collection and
[2:09:24]
that is a large enough um system to
[2:09:29]
support filling something like this. Um,
[2:09:31]
so all of that documentation would need
[2:09:34]
to be as as part of the permit process
[2:09:37]
should they approve the variance. The
[2:09:40]
first step tonight is just the variance
[2:09:42]
and we would need a direct statement on
[2:09:45]
that. This is not necessarily
[2:09:48]
sufficient enough in my opinion, but um
[2:09:51]
so I would request that it be amended to
[2:09:53]
reference the variance in Virginia
[2:09:58]
if you choose to pass. to amend her
[2:10:02]
motion.
[2:10:03]
>> Okay.
[2:10:04]
>> Yes. Because the the packet
[2:10:07]
um doesn't necessarily directly
[2:10:10]
reference the variance and I'm I'm just
[2:10:12]
concerned about
[2:10:15]
um about that.
[2:10:19]
>> Sorry.
[2:10:19]
>> I move to amend to specifically
[2:10:22]
reference a variance.
[2:10:25]
Second.
[2:10:30]
in the it would be to approve or deny
[2:10:32]
the hearings would be the amendment.
[2:10:36]
>> Do y'all have any discussion or
[2:10:37]
questions?
[2:10:39]
>> I'd like to say that if you if you don't
[2:10:41]
mind, may I say something? Uh the guy
[2:10:46]
who's going to come and fill it up says
[2:10:48]
that he can write a letter that shows
[2:10:52]
that he will be in charge of keeping it
[2:10:55]
filled. you would have to provide um the
[2:10:58]
initial purchase of the water. That's
[2:11:00]
what we've required in the past. So,
[2:11:03]
that we understand they might not fill
[2:11:04]
at that exact time, but you would have
[2:11:06]
to essentially have that in place.
[2:11:09]
>> Um a maintenance contract
[2:11:12]
>> or the refill would definitely benefit
[2:11:14]
you in regards to the city administrator
[2:11:17]
approving the application.
[2:11:18]
>> Yes.
[2:11:19]
>> Um none of that was provided tonight
[2:11:21]
though for the record.
[2:11:24]
Yeah, that's excuse [clears throat] me.
[2:11:26]
I'm sorry. That that's really my issue
[2:11:28]
is that um
[2:11:31]
you know the spa was purchased and
[2:11:35]
delivered and
[2:11:38]
um and you come to us with you know
[2:11:40]
legitimate issues. Um but you know our
[2:11:44]
the the reason that you have to follow
[2:11:46]
varants is because our job is to enforce
[2:11:50]
the policies of the city. um we haven't
[2:11:52]
approved um even a hot tub you know in a few years we did one one cool um
[2:12:00]
and the the medical documentation on
[2:12:03]
that one one person was um was extensive
[2:12:08]
>> well I've had the MRIs and the CAT scans
[2:12:11]
and all of that that I can provide I
[2:12:13]
just didn't think that that should be
[2:12:15]
necessary I mean I really didn't but I'd
[2:12:18]
be happy to provide it
[2:12:19]
>> all I'm saying is that you for us to
[2:12:22]
approve the variance. Um, we had to say
[2:12:26]
it's it's so compelling that we're
[2:12:28]
willing to break the rules that we have
[2:12:30]
set for ourselves. Um, and your
[2:12:33]
application to me, I mean, it's just in
[2:12:36]
my opinion, the application, you know,
[2:12:38]
isn't strong enough for for me to to
[2:12:41]
feel like it's there. I mean, it's not
[2:12:42]
that you can't go back and come back
[2:12:45]
with with strong. I mean, just like like
[2:12:47]
the the contract for the water being
[2:12:50]
trucked in, the design of the rainwater
[2:12:54]
system that's going to to top it off.
[2:12:56]
>> Um, you know, I I don't know about them.
[2:13:00]
Well, I don't know, you know, physical
[2:13:01]
therapist or, you know, orthopedic
[2:13:04]
surgeons or or whatever. you know that
[2:13:06]
you know if you if if I had better
[2:13:09]
documentation that yeah this is really
[2:13:11]
important and there's no other way you
[2:13:13]
can do it like going to the YDA or or a
[2:13:16]
physical therapist that you know might
[2:13:18]
provide um you know that service um then
[2:13:23]
I mean it'd be easier for me to to say
[2:13:25]
okay let's go ahead and break the rule
[2:13:27]
that that's my opinion on my one vote
[2:13:30]
and I'm sorry I feel that way but that is
[2:13:35]
>> [clears throat]
[2:13:35]
>> Council, if I may, you do have the
[2:13:37]
option if you'd like to postpone us for
[2:13:39]
further documentation as well. Just in
[2:13:41]
hearing that comment, that is a
[2:13:42]
possibility.
[2:13:45]
There's nothing wrong with that. Does
[2:13:47]
anyone else have any additional
[2:13:48]
questions for the applicant or
[2:13:50]
additional comments or concerns?
[2:13:52]
>> Do you know offand how many gallons it
[2:13:55]
takes to fill?
[2:13:56]
>> About 2,000.
[2:14:02]
and
[2:14:03]
>> and I have it planned to be delivered as
[2:14:05]
soon as it's
[2:14:08]
moved and set up on the pad that's being
[2:14:11]
built.
[2:14:13]
>> I will say typically water truck
[2:14:15]
providers don't do less than a,000 uh
[2:14:17]
refill. Occasionally they'll come out
[2:14:19]
for something like 3 to 600. So again,
[2:14:23]
should should you wish should council
[2:14:25]
postponed and you wish to provide
[2:14:27]
additional documentation or should your
[2:14:29]
variance be granted and you move into
[2:14:30]
the permit process, it would really
[2:14:32]
benefit you to have more of that stuff
[2:14:35]
documented, you know, like the size of
[2:14:37]
your rainwater collection, your contract
[2:14:38]
with your water provider saying they
[2:14:40]
would fill lesser amounts than a
[2:14:41]
thousand. And so I mean, if I could echo
[2:14:44]
what he rascow said is that um in seeing
[2:14:48]
this application
[2:14:50]
um there is a burden of the applicant to make a
[2:14:55]
compelling case to grant a variance.
[2:14:57]
That's standard policy that's nothing to
[2:15:00]
do with you or this situation if that
[2:15:02]
makes sense. And so what I have heard or
[2:15:06]
what I am hearing now is that um there
[2:15:08]
is not necessarily right now a
[2:15:10]
compelling case um meaning um a
[2:15:15]
long-term disability that would take a
[2:15:18]
permanent installation
[2:15:20]
or um you know the the plans for the
[2:15:24]
rainwater collection would have been
[2:15:25]
very helpful or um the the literal
[2:15:29]
contract with your water provider. these
[2:15:31]
were things these would be things that
[2:15:33]
would make for a more compelling case.
[2:15:36]
Um because the variance is basically we
[2:15:38]
have rules and so you're asking us to go
[2:15:41]
around these rules and it's sort of like
[2:15:43]
a burden of proof on your part if that
[2:15:47]
makes sense.
[2:15:47]
>> Well, it's all ready to go. It's ready
[2:15:50]
to be done. The the the the crew is
[2:15:54]
ready to to build the pad and the
[2:15:56]
rainwater collection and install the the
[2:15:58]
jacuzzi. It's all ready to be and I I
[2:16:02]
need to be healing in it yesterday.
[2:16:04]
>> Do the plans that you submitted include
[2:16:07]
>> those?
[2:16:08]
>> Well, it could happen it it can happen
[2:16:11]
as soon as y'all give me the okay to
[2:16:14]
>> doesn't work. No, you have to come first
[2:16:16]
and then and then we say, "Okay, that's good."
[2:16:19]
>> I mean, we can't we can't I mean, I
[2:16:21]
can't I can't I can't do for you what we
[2:16:25]
haven't done for a lot of other people
[2:16:27]
in this drive.
[2:16:29]
um with just on the on the promise that
[2:16:33]
yeah, I'll bring something back to you, know, after I get it done, after I
[2:16:36]
get it everything set, I I mean, it's
[2:16:38]
like if if if we had it now and had more
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to to work with,
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>> you know, you and this is this doesn't
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say that it will never come back before
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the council. You never have another
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chance. It's just that we in my opinion
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the application is just incomplete and it's like like it would be it would
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be
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it would just be tough for me to say
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okay I'll take your word for it. Right.
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So um
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sorry but
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>> does anyone else on council have
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anything they'd like to share or say?
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Just I if anything I'd like to see
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further documentation
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of medical.
[2:17:20]
You got it. I'll get it.
[2:17:25]
So right now we have an amendment to
[2:17:28]
address variance specifically. That's
[2:17:31]
what it said. Does specifically
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reference gay varian?
[2:17:34]
>> If we could vote on that amendment. Now,
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I would request we vote that down if you
[2:17:40]
don't mind and that we either approve or
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deny the variance and issue that
[2:17:44]
amendment or postpone for further
[2:17:47]
documentation. One of those three
[2:17:48]
options I think would be more clear for
[2:17:51]
staff and for the applicant.
[2:17:56]
So
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you want an amendment to deny the
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dariance or approve the variance
[2:18:03]
>> or a secondary like a new motion where
[2:18:07]
we a postpone is a standalone motion. It
[2:18:10]
would intercept the conversation and
[2:18:12]
stop it. All of it would end. Postponing
[2:18:15]
means done tonight. Come back at the
[2:18:17]
next meeting with XYZ. So we have to
[2:18:21]
take up this amendment that says
[2:18:23]
paraphrasing addressing a variance. I
[2:18:25]
would ask that y'all vote that down and
[2:18:27]
if you intend to approve or deny you
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make that amendment
[2:18:31]
>> or someone issued a motion in postponing
[2:18:34]
for further documentation.
[2:18:40]
» Sir council member Ger
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>> I just want to make sure I'm
[2:18:42]
understanding the process. We have an
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amendment to add the variance words.
[2:18:46]
Then we have the main motion as stated
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on the agenda. You're asking for all of
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that to make.
[2:18:55]
>> No. No. Vote vote on the amendment
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up or down.
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>> Um and then offer
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>> possibly
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>> a different amendment maybe or
[2:19:06]
>> Okay. The reason why
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>> I could just make it clear
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>> I would suggest to vote this amendment
[2:19:10]
down was because it it's added wordage
[2:19:14]
that's not necessary if that makes
[2:19:15]
sense. It's just all you all we really
[2:19:19]
need is vote to approve the request for
[2:19:22]
variance or vote to deny the request for
[2:19:25]
variance or motion to postpone until
[2:19:28]
further documentation.
[2:19:30]
>> So we'll go ahead and take up the
[2:19:32]
amendment to add variance verbage. All
[2:19:34]
in favor, please raise your hand and say
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I.
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No eyes. Motion fails. Please raise your
[2:19:40]
hand and say nay. If we do not support
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>> nay.
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>> Two nays. Do we have an abstent? Anyone
[2:19:48]
abstaining?
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>> Oh, I'm sorry.
[2:19:51]
>> I'm not sure.
[2:19:52]
>> Are you on the motion?
[2:19:53]
>> No, this variance would be
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>> So there were no eyes. I'm just assuming
[2:19:59]
everybody else would be mad. So we yeah
[2:20:02]
you either have to I n they or fain and
[2:20:04]
an F saying is a yes unless you have a
[2:20:07]
real reason not to be offending meaning
[2:20:10]
you it's money going to you or something
[2:20:12]
>> I vote against
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>> let's take a roll call you're against abstain so that becomes a yes
[2:20:23]
>> I'm in
[2:20:25]
clarification previous city attorney
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said we cannot abstain unless we have a
[2:20:29]
legal reason to do. So
[2:20:31]
>> there is an argument for that.
[2:20:35]
>> Is that true?
[2:20:38]
>> Your understanding?
[2:20:39]
>> Yes, I I agree with that.
[2:20:41]
>> Okay.
[2:20:41]
>> So unless you have a legal reason, we're
[2:20:44]
going to go with Stan's agreement here
[2:20:46]
on that.
[2:20:48]
>> Okay. So
[2:20:49]
>> a legal reason would be that you're
[2:20:51]
going to use her swim or this is going
[2:20:53]
on your property or she paid you money.
[2:20:57]
>> A real conflict of interest.
[2:21:00]
So, I missed the opportunity to move.
[2:21:04]
>> No, no, all we're voting on.
[2:21:09]
All the amendments said was add variance
[2:21:11]
words.
[2:21:12]
>> Okay.
[2:21:13]
>> Paraphrase. So, I'm asking you all to
[2:21:14]
vote that down because that is not a
[2:21:16]
helpful amendment right now to the
[2:21:17]
motion. We and we would make a new one
[2:21:21]
of some version, please. So, we will
[2:21:24]
start over with a roll call just to make
[2:21:26]
this clear so everyone knows. Council
[2:21:29]
member Richardson.
[2:21:31]
>> Council member Gmer.
[2:21:33]
>> Council member Bailey.
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>> Nay.
[2:21:35]
>> Council member Slicker.
[2:21:37]
>> Mayor.
[2:21:39]
>> Okay. That amendment says that's what I
[2:21:41]
got. Okay. First,
[2:21:45]
>> um,
[2:21:47]
so the motion on the table right now is
[2:21:50]
to approve a request for installation of
[2:21:52]
the swim and allow permitting process to
[2:21:55]
commence.
[2:21:58]
We can vote on that or you can add the
[2:22:02]
words about the variance in particular.
[2:22:04]
That was just a request for me. Or a new
[2:22:07]
motion can be made to postpone.
[2:22:13]
» Okay.
[2:22:15]
I move that we postpone this decision
[2:22:19]
allowing the applicant time to provide
[2:22:23]
more detail on the physical preparation
[2:22:28]
of the spa and medical need
[2:22:37]
administrative question
[2:22:40]
that doesn't require any varian
[2:22:43]
>> we will wait in this case.
[2:22:47]
>> Um, so council member Bailey's motion
[2:22:48]
was to postpone his decision to allow
[2:22:50]
applicant more time to provide
[2:22:53]
documentation
[2:22:55]
on the installation
[2:22:58]
and medical meeting. Yes.
[2:23:00]
>> Okay. Seconded by Mayor Pton Rasone.
[2:23:04]
Um, do we have any further discussion?
[2:23:08]
Um,
[2:23:09]
I would be happy to work with you via
[2:23:12]
email, help you understand what that
[2:23:16]
looks like and city administrator Burton
[2:23:18]
can also help on that front. Um, we did
[2:23:20]
not establish a timeline on this and as
[2:23:23]
it's stated now, it's just when she
[2:23:26]
feels her materials have been submitted.
[2:23:30]
So, if that's okay with council, we'll
[2:23:32]
move forward with that understanding.
[2:23:36]
So, you don't have a deadline right now
[2:23:39]
and your variance will still be honored.
[2:23:41]
You don't have to resubmit and pay
[2:23:42]
again. Um, but the council is requesting
[2:23:46]
additional information from you
[2:23:48]
concerning the medical need. So, the
[2:23:50]
doctor's prescription wasn't enough.
[2:23:54]
It's not that it's not you want to see
[2:23:57]
the X-rays and the results from the
[2:24:00]
different MRIs and things like what
[2:24:04]
we're I would love to talk to you about
[2:24:07]
this outside of a public meeting where
[2:24:09]
we're not discussing your health in a
[2:24:11]
recorded meeting if you don't mind.
[2:24:13]
>> But if you are open to that discussion,
[2:24:16]
I won't deny you it here. It just I out
[2:24:19]
of your privacy and respect for you, I
[2:24:21]
don't think that that would be
[2:24:22]
appropriate. That's fine. I'm willing to
[2:24:25]
do whatever you need me to do.
[2:24:27]
>> Okay. Um I would I would like to discuss
[2:24:29]
this with you at a meeting outside of a
[2:24:31]
public hearing.
[2:24:32]
>> So was it denied or did
[2:24:34]
>> it's been postponed until you provide
[2:24:37]
additional applicant information
[2:24:39]
regarding the installation.
[2:24:41]
Specifically, what I'm hearing is
[2:24:43]
related to the water concerns and
[2:24:46]
further medical documentation justify
[2:24:49]
any long-term disability or need.
[2:24:53]
>> So, the long-term uh health conditions
[2:24:56]
that I have, you need more information
[2:24:58]
on that because I have short-term and
[2:25:00]
long-term.
[2:25:01]
>> Yes, ma'am. What we have here today
[2:25:03]
appears to be kind of a shortterm
[2:25:06]
>> incident, right? Uh, so that was what I
[2:25:10]
heard expressed was the concern that
[2:25:13]
this is a short-term need that perhaps
[2:25:15]
could be satisfied without the permanent
[2:25:17]
installation of a water using device.
[2:25:19]
>> Right?
[2:25:20]
>> If you have a long-term disability that
[2:25:23]
would
[2:25:24]
give a more compelling argument for a
[2:25:27]
water installation device, it's
[2:25:28]
permanent or semi-permanent being
[2:25:31]
installed at your home, then that would
[2:25:33]
help your case.
[2:25:36]
>> I'll get that to you. Okay.
[2:25:41]
» Yes. Yes.
[2:25:43]
>> I just
[2:25:44]
>> Okay.
[2:25:46]
>> All right. The motion on the table is to
[2:25:47]
postpone this decision to allow the
[2:25:49]
applicant more time to provide the
[2:25:52]
documentation on the installation and
[2:25:55]
medical need. Do we have any further
[2:25:57]
discussion tonight in council?
[2:26:00]
All right. Hearing none, we'll go ahead
[2:26:02]
and hold a vote on that motion to
[2:26:03]
postpone. All in favor, please raise
[2:26:05]
your hand and say I.
[2:26:08]
Four I one n a motion passes to
[2:26:11]
postpone.
[2:26:15]
[clears throat]
[2:26:16]
All right. Thank you. Thank you so much.
[2:26:18]
As you heard a long way.
[2:26:22]
>> Let's uh put together at a later time to
[2:26:26]
work on your additional application
[2:26:28]
materials and Mr. Burton can also help
[2:26:30]
you if I'm not available.
[2:26:32]
>> Thank you very much. Good morning. Thank
[2:26:34]
you.
[2:26:37]
All right, guys. We're going to move
[2:26:38]
into council considerations for future
[2:26:40]
business. And I' I've mentioned this
[2:26:43]
before, but if you guys would like your
[2:26:44]
stuff included in the slides, you can
[2:26:46]
always email me beforehand. Um, all I
[2:26:49]
have right now are I would like to
[2:26:50]
propose a rainwater collection incentive
[2:26:52]
for smallcale and landscape watering.
[2:26:56]
Seconded by council member Richardson.
[2:26:58]
Um, tonight I heard a reconsider for
[2:27:01]
speed cushions in the budget from the
[2:27:04]
public.
[2:27:05]
that one. I second.
[2:27:06]
>> Uh okay. So, Mayor Pton Rasa will be
[2:27:09]
sponsoring that item and uh council
[2:27:12]
member Gerard has seconded that
[2:27:14]
consideration.
[2:27:15]
>> Um when I say speaker, should I like
[2:27:18]
safety enhancement phase three?
[2:27:19]
>> Uh I would say safety enhancement phase
[2:27:22]
three.
[2:27:24]
um what was in the budget
[2:27:27]
>> and that's what they were requesting
[2:27:29]
come up and we'll have a separate item
[2:27:31]
for it this time instead of it being
[2:27:34]
um part of a larger item
[2:27:36]
>> and uh I will honor the modifications if
[2:27:40]
it's okay in working with Mayor Proasco
[2:27:42]
the modifications that council members
[2:27:44]
expressed uh wanting in that plan the
[2:27:47]
last time but we'll bring back in
[2:27:50]
>> question well we're not be talking about
[2:27:53]
details. I just can the details of it be
[2:27:56]
broken up so obviously could maybe it
[2:27:59]
can change into this but that later
[2:28:03]
it's in that safety enhancement.
[2:28:07]
>> It is kind of remember
[2:28:12]
actually nothing was specified. It was
[2:28:15]
just safety enhancement phase three and
[2:28:16]
then what was proposed was what citizens
[2:28:18]
had brought to us because the whole
[2:28:20]
point was we were just approving to add
[2:28:23]
it to the budget and approving staff to
[2:28:25]
be able to work on the plan and consult
[2:28:26]
with engineers to bring forth a plan for
[2:28:28]
council consideration.
[2:28:30]
>> But council did make modifications
[2:28:33]
during the meeting and I will honor
[2:28:36]
those if you don't mind. We'll adjust
[2:28:37]
what was presented.
[2:28:42]
No additional considerations for future
[2:28:44]
business. I remember Council Member
[2:28:46]
Gmer, you um made an announcement on a
[2:28:50]
previous meeting about something related
[2:28:51]
to taxes. Were you still interested in
[2:28:53]
uh getting your second on that during
[2:28:55]
the appropriate allocated time for
[2:28:57]
policy?
[2:29:00]
>> Seems I don't remember at the moment.
[2:29:02]
No.
[2:29:03]
>> Was it um like a further income?
[2:29:08]
>> Oh, it was.
[2:29:09]
>> Yes. the possibility.
[2:29:11]
>> Okay. Um I plan on our possibility of
[2:29:16]
a general homestead exemption
[2:29:20]
tax exemption.
[2:29:23]
>> Yeah.
[2:29:26]
>> That was on the last.
[2:29:27]
>> Thank you.
[2:29:28]
>> Yeah. It was made as an announcement.
[2:29:30]
>> Oh yeah. The announcements weren't on my
[2:29:33]
class. So, I was just trying to
[2:29:38]
» do a second.
[2:29:40]
>> I don't know.
[2:29:42]
>> Um,
[2:29:45]
okay.
[2:29:50]
» And then the the item that um custom
[2:29:54]
permer was speaking about that was that
[2:29:58]
may have been on this agenda.
[2:30:00]
>> It's already submitted.
[2:30:01]
>> Okay.
[2:30:03]
That doesn't have to be resub.
[2:30:04]
>> It doesn't. It was submitted in May on
[2:30:06]
the 17th. Uh the agenda was posted on
[2:30:09]
the 27th for June. So, and it was
[2:30:12]
already in process at that time in full.
[2:30:14]
He was um asked if it could go on July.
[2:30:18]
He said he'd be out of town. So, it
[2:30:20]
could come in August.
[2:30:21]
>> Okay.
[2:30:22]
>> It's already
[2:30:28]
» Sorry, [clears throat] that wasn't
[2:30:29]
directed to you. No, it's not. It is
[2:30:32]
7:00.
[2:30:32]
>> Yeah. Uh, all right. Now, we're going to
[2:30:34]
move into announcements hearing. No
[2:30:36]
future business. Uh, one announcement.
[2:30:38]
We have a repotting lot 144 and lot 146
[2:30:41]
of the re
[2:30:43]
of the repot and extension of Wood Creek
[2:30:45]
section 2 establishing lot 144A county
[2:30:48]
Texas notice of a public hearing set for
[2:30:50]
July 15, 2026 at 5:00 p.m. During the
[2:30:52]
regular planning and zoning commission
[2:30:54]
meeting, they will need to issue a
[2:30:56]
report that would then come to us. So
[2:30:58]
this is your notice. You could tune into
[2:31:00]
that meeting to be informed by them
[2:31:03]
directly. And then planning and zoning
[2:31:04]
is also planning a public hearing for
[2:31:06]
MH1 noting expected August 19th, 2026.
[2:31:10]
That's related to the manufacturer
[2:31:12]
manufactured housing code. The state is
[2:31:14]
requiring from us. Our next council
[2:31:16]
meeting is August 12th with the final
[2:31:18]
budget workshop. Please come with all of
[2:31:20]
your final budget stuff for that meeting
[2:31:23]
because we'll be launching straight into
[2:31:26]
Sep, you know, like that's it and then
[2:31:28]
September has to be posted. So,
[2:31:30]
>> I'm sorry you're saying that the regular
[2:31:31]
meeting plus budget work.
[2:31:34]
>> Yeah, it will be primarily a budget
[2:31:37]
workshop. I
[2:31:38]
>> is the goal. That is um in the future
[2:31:41]
it's it's very beneficial for all
[2:31:44]
council to uh take into consideration
[2:31:46]
the budget calendar when submitting
[2:31:48]
items and understanding that the months
[2:31:50]
of July and August
[2:31:53]
10 and June really even tend to be very
[2:31:55]
heavy budget stuff. So anyway, all
[2:32:00]
right, moving on. Uh that would adjourn
[2:32:03]
our meeting. I have a motion to adjurnn.
[2:32:06]
>> Uh meeting at 8:56.
[2:32:09]
>> Thank you.