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[2:42]
It being 6:00 p.m., I will call this
meeting to order as the mayor pro tem
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for the town of Clayton. I ask that you
stand as you are able for the pledge of
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allegiance and remain standing for the
invocation.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» Let us pray.
Lord, we thank you for this day and for
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another opportunity to continue the work
at hand.
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We thank you for the town of Clayton and
for all who live here.
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Yes, we pray for our town, our mayor,
each council member, town manager, and
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every staff member who serve our
community.
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Continue to give us wisdom to make fair
choices
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that would be the best for our town and
each resident. Help us to work together
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with peace and unity
as we seek common goals.
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Bless this meeting tonight
that we will be pleasing unto you and
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bring you glory. For it is in Jesus name
we pray. Amen.
[4:00]
» Do we have any adjustments to the
agenda?
[4:02]
» Uh yes, we'd like to add a closed
session pursuant to General Statute
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143-318.11.A.3
for a legal matter and five for a real
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estate matter.
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» Any other adjustments?
[4:20]
I have those
adjustments noted and I can entertain a
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motion to adopt the agenda.
>> Motion.
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» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. Any
[4:30]
further discussion?
Hearing none, all in favor say I.
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» I.
>> Opposed like signed. Motion carries.
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Up next is your consent agenda.
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» Motion to approve.
>> Second.
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» We have a motion and a second. Is there
any further discussion?
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Hearing none, all in favor say I.
Opposed like signed.
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Motion carries.
Up next we have Mr. Shelton presenting
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our most recent episode of Clayton for
you.
[5:09]
» Mayor Pro Tem, Town Council.
Tonight we bring another episode of
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Clayton for you. Um
tonight's episode is about 811 call
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before you dig. Uh coming up is August
11th, which is National Call Before You
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Dig Day. And our star of the video is in
the audience. She probably doesn't want
[5:27]
any attention, but she's back there, Ms.
Lynette. So uh
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we'll get this keyed up.
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» Today on Clayton for you, we're talking
about something small that makes a big
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difference. [music] Calling 811 before
you dig. Whether you're planting a tree,
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installing [music] a fence, or starting
a home project, there's one step you
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should never skip. August 11th is
National 811 Day, and it's a great
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reminder to keep your project [music]
safe and on track.
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» Calling 811 is a free and easy way to
protect yourself, your property, and
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your [music] community. When you contact
811 at least 3 days before digging,
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[music] local crews come out to mark
underground lines like water, sewer,
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» [music]
>> electric, communications, and gas.
[6:15]
Those markings show you where it's safe
to dig and where it's not.
[6:19]
Hitting a utility line can cause serious
injuries, [music] costly repairs, and
[6:24]
even service outages for your
neighborhood. In fact, across the
[6:28]
country, a utility line [music] is
damaged every few minutes because
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someone did not call before digging.
Once your property is [music] marked,
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you can move forward with your project.
Just be sure to dig carefully and avoid
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those marked areas.
>> It's a simple step that helps keep
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everyone [music] safe. So, before you
break ground, remember to call 811 or
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submit a request online. Learn more
about safe digging at nc811.org.
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» Thank you, guys.
>> Great message.
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» And in case you're wondering, those
hydrants had to be flushed anyway, so
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that water needed to be poured out.
>> I want to see you digging with the
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shovel next time.
[7:14]
Good job on that. Thank you. Good
message.
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From there, we jump all the way to item
number 10, public comment. So, at this
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time, I will open the floor for public
comment.
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Anyone wishing to speak may come to the
podium. Please state your name and
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address for the record. Per the
instructions published in the agenda,
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each speaker has 3 minutes to offer
comment. Thank you.
[7:40]
» Hey, good evening, my mayors.
My name is Mike Edwards Twining. I live
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at 40 Red Crabapple Court here in
Clayton.
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And I appreciate the opportunity to
speak to you tonight.
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I'd like to address what I believe is a
significant transportation issue that
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deserves attention now before it becomes
a much larger and more expensive
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problem.
With the retail expansion along Business
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Highway 70 or Clayton Boulevard,
specifically the construction of a new
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Target department store and a Costco
warehouse adjacent to the existing
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Walmart,
it is clear that traffic volumes will
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increase substantially in this corridor.
This is not a concern about future
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traffic alone.
The congestion already exists today. And
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these new developments will only
compound an issue that many Clayton
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residents deal with every weekday.
Anyone who travels that stretch of road,
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especially between 3:00 and 6:30 on a
weekday afternoon,
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knows what I'm talking about. It's
already congested. And it's a daily
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reality.
The addition of two major destination
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retailers will only intensify those
delays, creating longer travel times,
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more difficult access for local
businesses,
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and increased safety concerns.
Rather than waiting until this corridor
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becomes gridlocked, I urge you to please
take a proactive approach. Since the DOT
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has full maintenance responsibility for
Clayton Boulevard, I respectfully ask
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the Town Council to formally petition
North Carolina DOT to evaluate and
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prioritize a roadway widening project.
Specifically,
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I recommend adding one additional travel
lane in each direction from
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approximately 900 ft west of Town Center
Boulevard to approximately 700 ft west
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of the Culvers restaurant.
If appropriate,
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I also encourage the town to explore an
encroachment agreement with the DOT if
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that provides a more timely path toward
improving this corridor.
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Good planning means anticipating growth,
not simply reacting to it after
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residents are already experiencing
unacceptable congestion.
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The rapid pace of development should be
matched by equally thoughtful
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transportation planning. Roads,
intersections, and traffic capacity
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should keep pace with the growth.
Waiting until this corridor becomes a
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traffic bottleneck is not in the public
interest. Taking action now will help
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preserve mobility, improve public
safety, support our local businesses,
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and demonstrate that Clayton is
committed to responsible, coordinated
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growth.
Will you, our town council, commit to
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formally requesting and advocating that
the DOT widen this highway before
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today's congestion becomes tomorrow's
gridlock?
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Thank you for your time, your service to
our community, and your consideration.
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Have a good evening.
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» Thank you very much, sir.
[11:06]
» Hey, Micah Patterson, 215 Vincent Ridge
Lane. I've been up here multiple times
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at this point. You guys probably know me
a little bit by now that I've been
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talking multiple times about the flood
camera issue. Here with a couple of
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friends of mine today that will be able
to talk a little bit more than I can
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because they haven't done it before.
Um,
[11:25]
it's a good thing to be able to do this,
obviously, but um,
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what more can I can on some of these
issues, you know, there's so many
[11:33]
citizens, there's the pros and cons of
these cameras. Of course, they can be
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used to help stopping crimes and
catching criminals.
[11:41]
Um, but for a lot of people, it's
pretty much tracking without a warrant
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constantly every single vehicle that
passes by. The Supreme Court recently
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ruled almost a couple years ago in the
case of Chatrie versus the United States
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that collecting geofence data pretty
much from your GPS on your phone of
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every single person in a small area was
deemed unconstitutional under the Fourth
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Amendment. I'm hoping here soon, of
course, that the Supreme Court would be
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able to do something like that for these
technologies that there can at least be
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guardrails in place like requiring a
warrant for obtaining data on these
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plates. Because it's more of the mosaic
issue where
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you can sit on a public road and kind of
write down whatever plates that you see
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on the vehicle passes by, and that's
just one person. It's in a public view
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where it makes sense, but for a
connected system to be all around the
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entire country, it's not just in our
little town. It shares that data with
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this company that goes across the globe
essentially.
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By compiling all that information over
hundreds of miles in different areas,
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you could effectively find and track the
movements of every single person that's
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going on, and that data can be kept for
a permanent, you know, a long amount of
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time.
So,
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again, just airing concerns about this.
You know, I've advocated before, at
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least previously, that we can at least
just get an audit at first to see what
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is going on with these cameras so that
that way they are being used responsibly
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and that we are not having issues like
other places have been having in the
[13:17]
country. Thank you, guys.
>> Thank you, sir.
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» Hello, my name is Nicholas Picorello. I
live at 308 Waterford Drive.
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My issues today come up with the flock
cameras also
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with a concern of safety for the
community with data collection.
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As person before me
noted,
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it's owned by people that are not even
part of the United States.
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Owned by very rich powerful people,
which can
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uh
of course be used on a federal level
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eventually.
Could be used for things in the future
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we're not sure about. We need to
understand this more before it's
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introduced to our community.
And also they're located in locations
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which I think are very concerning, such
as two are next to the hospital on
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on Veteran Parkway, and then there's
another one near the
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what's it called? The Neuse River Trail
on I believe it's Covered Bridge Road.
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Which can be concerning to me cuz you
can even go on a walk with your family
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with your family or with friends, have a
good time, and
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without having your
data being collected,
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license plate. And the entire idea,
which I understand, is being proactive
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about crime.
But the entire problem I personally have
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with this is we're giving up freedoms in
exchange for safety,
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which yes, of course safety's nice, but
freedom is more beautiful than that.
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There's been multiple cases in the past
outside of
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Clayton, but I don't it could extend
over here one day of police using it
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to track
exes, personal family members, and I
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want these people to feel safe without a
concern
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that they'll have someone just watching
over their daily life.
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So, I just want I just want to uh
I just want to bring attention to y'all
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this matter that people do people do
feel unsafe with this. But I appreciate
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everything y'all do. I believe y'all are
very nice people, but it's just my
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personal opinion that I believe that
there needs to be more looked into this.
[15:25]
Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir.
[15:34]
Anyone else wishing to speak this
evening?
[15:38]
Okay.
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I will go ahead then and close public
comments and move on to staff reports
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starting with the town manager.
>> No report this evening.
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» Town attorney?
Town clerk?
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» No report.
>> Other staff?
[15:58]
Okay. Thank you all.
Uh the next item on the agenda then is a
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closed session and that is to discuss a
legal matter and a real estate matter
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and at this time I will ask for the room
to be cleared. Thank you.
[16:12]
Oh, my apologies. Motion. We need a
motion to go into closed session for
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both of those.
I didn't have it in my notes originally
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cuz I wasn't in the uh agenda.
I will entertain a motion.
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» I make a motion we go into closed
session.
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» We have a motion and a second. Any
further discussion?
[16:31]
Hearing none, all in favor say I.
Opposed like sign. Motion carries and
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now we can clear the room. Thank you
all.
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» Mhm.