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[5:12] as the mayor of the town of Clayton, I'd
[5:13] like to call this Clayton Town Council
[5:15] meeting to order. Uh, I'd like to ask
[5:17] you to stand for the pledge of
[5:18] allegiance, which tonight will be led by
[5:20] the Scouting America Troop 58. So we
[5:22] welcome you to the Clayton Town Council
[5:24] meeting and remain standing forward the
[5:27] invocation and also for an observance
[5:30] for a moment of silence for the Wilson
[5:32] Mills Mayor Fleeter Bird who passed away
[5:34] on Sunday August the 16th
[5:42] to the flag of the United States of
[5:45] America and to the republic for which it
[5:48] stands. One nation under God,
[5:50] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[5:53] for all.
[6:12] Most gracious and heavenly father, we
[6:14] pause to give you thanks for the many
[6:15] blessings of this day. And we ask Lord
[6:17] now that you be with us as we proceed
[6:19] with the business for the town of
[6:20] Clayton. For it's in Jesus name I pray.
[6:22] Amen.
[6:33] Are there any adjustments to the agenda?
[6:35] >> No adjustments.
[6:41] » All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain
[6:42] a motion to adopt the agenda as
[6:44] presented. Motion to adopt. Second.
[6:47] >> We have a motion and second to adopt the
[6:49] agenda as presented. Any further
[6:51] discussion? All in favor say I.
[6:54] >> I.
[6:54] >> Opposed like sign. Motion carries. Up
[6:58] next is your consent agenda.
[7:02] >> Motion to adopt.
[7:03] >> Second.
[7:04] >> We have a motion and a second to adopt
[7:06] the consent agenda. Is there any further
[7:08] discussion?
[7:10] All in favor say I.
[7:11] >> I.
[7:12] >> Oppose like signs. And motion carries.
[7:16] Up next under administrative items is
[7:18] the Clayton for you.
[7:32] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor Council. Tonight
[7:34] we have the pleasure to bring you
[7:35] another episode of Clayton for You.
[7:37] Tonight's episode is on annexations and
[7:39] what that means for the town.
[7:44] You may hear the word annexation during
[7:46] a town council meeting, but what does it
[7:48] actually mean for a property and the
[7:50] people who live nearby? In this episode
[7:52] [music] of Clayton for You, we're
[7:54] breaking down what annexation is and
[7:56] what changes when a property becomes
[7:58] part of [music] the town of Clayton.
[8:00] >> Annexation is a process of bringing
[8:01] existing property that is outside
[8:03] Clayton's town limits into the [music]
[8:04] town limits. In most cases, it starts
[8:06] with the property owner petitioning the
[8:08] town to annex their property. Annex
[8:10] properties benefit from access to town
[8:11] [music] services and infrastructure,
[8:13] including opportunities for electric,
[8:15] water, and sewer service. They also are
[8:18] subject to [music] town property taxes
[8:19] and all town ordinances and regulations.
[8:22] There are two types of annexations,
[8:24] contiguous and non-ontiguous. A
[8:26] contiguous annexation involves
[8:27] properties that directly touches
[8:29] Clayton's existing town limits, while a
[8:31] non-ontiguous annexation involves
[8:33] property that is separate from the main
[8:35] or primary [music] town limits. That
[8:37] distinction is especially important with
[8:38] non-ontiguous annexations [music]
[8:40] because bringing one property into
[8:41] Clayton does not change the services or
[8:43] jurisdiction for the properties around
[8:45] it. [music] For example, an address that
[8:47] falls within the jurisdiction of the
[8:49] Johnson County Sheriff's Office would
[8:51] remain [music] in that jurisdiction even
[8:53] if a neighboring property is annexed.
[8:55] >> That's a quick look at how annexation
[8:57] works in the [music] town of Clay. You
[8:59] can follow annexation requests and other
[9:01] town business [music] by attending town
[9:03] council meetings or watching live on
[9:05] YouTube.
[9:08] Thank you, sir. Perfect. Thank you.
[9:17] Up next, under introduction and special
[9:19] presentations will be a retirement
[9:21] recognition for Mr. Robert Mai. So, good
[9:24] evening.
[9:26] Tonight
[9:27] we have the opportunity to recognize a
[9:29] very special member of the Clayton Town
[9:31] [clears throat] of Clayton
[9:33] family as he's preparing to retire and
[9:37] uh following an extraordinary career of
[9:39] professional leadership and public
[9:40] service. He's built a career defined by
[9:43] integrity and commitment to doing things
[9:45] the right way. Clayton has been
[9:47] fortunate to benefit from that
[9:49] experience as he has helped guide our
[9:52] town through a period of tremendous
[9:54] evolution and change. Much of his work
[9:57] has happened behind the scenes, but its
[10:00] impact can be seen throughout our
[10:01] organization and across our community.
[10:04] Tonight, we'd like to take a few minutes
[10:06] to reflect on that remarkable career and
[10:09] celebrate a lifetime of service to the
[10:11] people of North Carolina. At this time,
[10:14] I'd like to invite town manager Rich
[10:15] Capola to share a few remarks.
[10:18] >> Robert, if I could ask you to go stand
[10:20] at the podium there, sir. I know you
[10:23] love this kind of stuff.
[10:27] » So, thank you, Mayor. Um, it's been a
[10:29] privilege working alongside Robert here
[10:31] the last several years. Uh, I've been
[10:32] able to witness firsthand Robert's
[10:34] knowledge, professionalism, dedication,
[10:37] uh, and and just overall zest for for
[10:40] the world of finances here at the town
[10:41] of Clayton. Uh since 2009, Robert has
[10:44] served as our finance director,
[10:46] overseeing every ma every major aspect
[10:48] of the time town's financial as uh
[10:50] operations. That includes budgeting,
[10:52] accounting, investments, debt
[10:54] management, purchasing, financial
[10:56] reporting, and compliance. Uh to fully
[10:59] appreciate Robert's contributions, I
[11:01] think everybody here needs to really
[11:03] think about what it looked like 17 years
[11:04] ago when Robert started. Uh since then,
[11:07] our population has more than doubled. Uh
[11:09] we've seen extremely uh large uh service
[11:14] demands put on our all the different
[11:15] services across the board. Uh we've had
[11:18] expanded infrastructure demands
[11:19] including a small $280 million what
[11:22] Robert has routinely referred to
[11:24] generational project with our Sam's
[11:25] branch water reclamation facility which
[11:27] he was instrumental in getting uh off
[11:29] the ground. Uh and we've made
[11:31] significant investments to be able to
[11:32] prepare for the future here in the town
[11:33] of Clayton. Uh through that growth,
[11:36] Robert has provided the steady financial
[11:37] leadership that helped keep Clayton
[11:40] fiscally strong, transparent, and
[11:43] prepared for the opportunities and
[11:44] challenges that came with being one of
[11:46] the fastest growing communities in our
[11:48] region.
[11:49] Under his leadership, the town has
[11:51] repeatedly earned national recognition
[11:53] from the Government Finance Officers
[11:55] Association for Excellence in Financial
[11:57] Reporting and Budgeting, something I
[11:58] know Robert is very proud of and this
[12:00] organization as a whole is. Those awards
[12:03] are certainly something to celebrate,
[12:04] but they also reflect the standards that
[12:06] Robert has consistently brought to the
[12:08] finances here at the town of Clayton.
[12:10] Uh, responsible stewardship of the
[12:11] public funds is is of the utmost
[12:13] importance to us, and that commitment to
[12:15] transparency and accountability shows in the work that Robert has provided
[12:20] over the years. Robert has become a very
[12:21] trusted resource to our employees, our
[12:23] department directors, our elected
[12:24] officials, finance professionals, and
[12:26] public administrators alike. uh he's
[12:29] always been willing to share his
[12:30] knowledge, explain these complex issues
[12:32] and putting some investment back into
[12:34] the people that he works with uh to help
[12:36] us understand some very very complex
[12:38] math sometimes.
[12:40] Uh we will certainly remember all the
[12:42] balanced budgets and the clean audits,
[12:44] the award-winning financial reports, the
[12:46] strong financial systems, and the many
[12:47] projects, investments he made possible.
[12:49] Uh but just as importantly, we want to
[12:51] remember the guidance, the wisdom, the
[12:53] experience that he's shared with us all
[12:54] along the way. Um, Robert, for me
[12:58] personally and from the organization, I
[12:59] want to thank you for all of your your
[13:01] commitment to this town, uh, seeing us
[13:04] through some of the most challenging
[13:06] times, but also having some of the most
[13:08] rewarding impact on the organization as
[13:10] a whole. Uh, so on behalf of town of
[13:12] Clayton, I would like to thank you for
[13:14] all you've done and for the people you
[13:16] served throughout your career. Thank
[13:17] you.
[13:18] >> Awesome. Thank you, Rich. So, Robert,
[13:22] tonight we've heard about an
[13:23] extraordinary career spanning more than
[13:25] four decades and the impact that you've
[13:27] had here in Clayton and throughout North
[13:29] Carolina. But we're here not only
[13:31] tonight to recognize your retirement,
[13:33] but we're here to recognize a lifetime
[13:36] of service. For decades, you've
[13:38] dedicated your talents and experience to
[13:41] public service in North Carolina. And
[13:43] throughout that time, you have been
[13:45] entrusted with an enormous
[13:47] responsibility. Making sure that public
[13:49] resources are managed wisely and that
[13:52] government operates responsibly and
[13:54] transparently on behalf of the people it
[13:57] serves. Clayton has been has Clayton has
[14:01] benefited tremendously from that
[14:02] commitment. Your guidance has helped our
[14:05] community make important investments in
[14:07] its future and build a strong financial
[14:09] foundation for the years ahead.
[14:12] And tonight, that lifetime of service is
[14:15] being recognized by the state of North
[14:16] Carolina.
[14:18] The Order of the Longleaf Pine is
[14:20] awarded by the Governor of North
[14:22] Carolina, and it's widely regarded as
[14:24] one of the highest state honors for
[14:26] exemplary service and exceptional
[14:28] contributions to North Carolina and its
[14:30] communities.
[14:31] Robert, it is my honor, a great honor,
[14:35] to announce that Governor Josh Stein has
[14:37] bestowed upon you the Order of the
[14:39] Longleaf Pond.
[14:59] » [applause]
[15:00] >> Thank you.
[15:04] So on behalf of the governor of the
[15:05] state of North Carolina, the town
[15:07] council, and the town citizens of
[15:09] Clayton, North Carolina,
[15:10] congratulations. It's my privilege to
[15:12] present to you the order of the long
[15:14] leaf pine.
[15:33] And we also want to excuse me uh say a
[15:37] special thank you to Robert and his
[15:38] family uh for all that you have allowed
[15:41] him to do and been so supportive of his
[15:43] actions. What a true difference uh that
[15:46] he has completely made with time. So on
[15:49] behalf of time we thank all of your
[15:52] family and your friends. All right. And
[15:54] at this time because I know you can't
[15:56] wait to get in front of that microphone
[15:57] and say I'm going to give the floor to
[16:00] you. All right. [laughter] All right.
[16:01] Thank you.
[16:05] All right. Um Mr. Mayor, Council Rich,
[16:09] uh it's been a true honor,
[16:12] been a great ride. Came here in February
[16:14] 2009. I remember one of the first things
[16:16] we did out of the gate was we had our
[16:18] first GL bond offering. Mr. Mayor, you
[16:20] probably remember we went up on that
[16:21] trip to New York and met with Moody's
[16:23] and S&P. Uh that was quite a quite an
[16:26] experience. And uh you know since then
[16:29] things just taken off. Um I've really
[16:32] loved everything I do as a finance
[16:34] director. I've taken that role very
[16:36] seriously. Um felt like I've always been
[16:38] a good steward of the town's finances
[16:41] and it its assets. Um, probably one of
[16:45] the biggest things I'm most proud of is
[16:47] probably the collaborative effort we did
[16:49] to get the Sams branch project off the
[16:51] ground and see that to fruition. That
[16:53] was uh quite a challenge. That was one
[16:57] of those I call I always refer to the
[16:59] generational construction project.
[17:01] Little bit south of $300 million. That
[17:03] was that was a big one. Um, but again,
[17:06] I'm very appreciative of all the support
[17:09] I've received over the years. Uh my
[17:11] staff, these are a great group of
[17:13] people, very knowledgeable, dedicated,
[17:16] professional. Um without them, you know,
[17:20] I wouldn't have got been able to do some
[17:22] of the things I've been able to do. Um
[17:25] so I'm very appreciative. This this is
[17:27] like uh icing on the cake, so to speak.
[17:31] Uh didn't expect that. Um but I'm I'm
[17:35] very appreciative and uh it's been a
[17:37] hell of a ride. Um, and uh, you know,
[17:41] it's bittersweet. I'm going to miss
[17:43] everybody. Uh, but it is time to move on
[17:46] to the next uh, chapter, so to speak,
[17:49] which is retirement. [laughter]
[17:52] So, again, I appreciate everybody's uh,
[17:54] recognition and it it's it's very
[17:56] heartfelt. Thank you so much.
[18:01] >> Thank you, Robert. We uh, we appreciate
[18:03] that. Uh, I want to take a point of per
[18:06] personal privilege right now to let you
[18:08] know just how much your service to the
[18:11] town of Clayton and to me as a mayor has
[18:13] been. You know, when uh back in the late uh '9s, that would be 1996,
[18:21] the uh town of Clayton was not in very
[18:23] good financial standing. And as a
[18:27] council member at that time, we were
[18:28] called into the local government
[18:30] commission by the state of North
[18:31] Carolina. And it was not a pretty
[18:33] picture. Uh but some good things
[18:36] happened from that. And one good thing
[18:38] that happened from that was a lady who
[18:39] worked for local government commission.
[18:40] Her name was Nancy Medlin. And when she
[18:42] was asked would she consider coming to
[18:44] Clayton and being our finance director
[18:46] and help us get Clayton back on the
[18:48] right track, she agreed. And from that
[18:51] point on, that's when she later uh found
[18:55] Robert Mai. And when Nancy retired, we
[18:57] had Robert. So, I continued to breathe
[19:00] easily and did not have heart
[19:01] palpitations, right? Because I knew we
[19:03] were going to be in good hands. And I'm
[19:05] sure that we're going to be in good
[19:06] hands moving forward. But I just want
[19:08] you to know how much it means to me and
[19:11] really to all the Clayton's and
[19:12] especially in today's environment to to
[19:15] model the way on how finances should be
[19:18] conducted in a municipality. And I thank
[19:20] you for that.
[19:23] [applause]
[19:28] Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank
[19:30] you.
[19:46] All right. So, up next on the agenda
[19:48] will be a public hearing. It's the town
[19:50] pub conventional reszoning 2026-081-RZ.
[19:56] This is continued from the July 20th
[19:58] meeting
[20:00] and the public hearing does remain open.
[20:31] Good evening, [clears throat] mayor,
[20:32] members of council. Conrad, planning
[20:34] director for the town of Clayton. Um,
[20:36] before you is a a request for three
[20:40] properties to be reszoned to public
[20:42] facilities, PUB. Um the couple slides
[20:46] are from your prior presentation that
[20:47] were delivered by Lori Bryant, our
[20:49] planner one. Um and I've added some
[20:51] additional slides to the presentation.
[20:53] I'll spend a little more time on. So
[20:54] I'll just kind of do a recap for benefit
[20:56] of um just a refresher. So there are
[20:59] three parcels that were recently
[21:01] processed for annexation. um they are
[21:04] townowned and in interest of
[21:07] consolidating the town owned properties
[21:08] into the PUB zoning district um this is
[21:11] a reasonzoning request to fulfill that desire. Um so there are three uh
[21:17] these three are totaling um 143 acres.
[21:21] They're located off of Short Johnson.
[21:24] Let me see.
[21:26] This one is off of um Veterans Parkway
[21:28] and Shore Johnson Road. And this
[21:29] property to the north is the upcoming
[21:32] public safety center for PD and for fire
[21:35] department.
[21:37] Parcel one and parcel two are currently
[21:39] undeveloped as you can see with the
[21:41] aerial off of Jack Road. This is a
[21:43] terminus of Corbett Road and this is the
[21:45] extent of the Clayton planning area.
[21:48] This area right here is was annexed. Um
[21:50] it was in the county's jurisdiction but
[21:53] with annexation we now are going to be
[21:56] required to reszone it. So hence the two
[21:58] PUB um requests for this facility. This
[22:03] property was reszoned to PUB um a couple
[22:05] months ago. So this is in alignment with
[22:07] that request. Also
[22:13] the properties were noticed
[22:15] um for the planning meeting, the
[22:17] planning board meeting. So we have the
[22:18] same public noticing um policy for the
[22:21] planning board that we use for town
[22:23] council. So, we uh sent property owner
[22:25] letters to 300t radiuses for both both
[22:28] these properties
[22:29] and we have the our our signs are posted
[22:34] on the property. So, this is along I
[22:36] want to say this looks like um Jack
[22:38] Road,
[22:39] some of the terminuses of Corbett and
[22:42] Essex Lane and also Short Johnson right
[22:44] here. Sorry if my flashlight is
[22:48] distracting there, but I like to use it.
[22:51] Um so moving on
[22:56] here are the three the the two
[22:58] properties on Jack Road and Corbett
[23:00] Road. You can see their existing and
[23:03] their proposed PUB
[23:06] and then parcel 3 existing and proposed
[23:16] with respect to the future land use map.
[23:18] Um parcel one and parcel two are looking
[23:22] to um a revision from prior dis
[23:26] discussion was we wanted to update these
[23:28] to be feature land use map designation
[23:30] of agricultural slash
[23:33] I'm sorry be recreation and open space.
[23:37] So that would be this feature land use
[23:39] map designation
[23:40] for these two properties.
[23:44] Um therefore that's why you would find a
[23:46] motion for inconsistency um for these
[23:48] two properties. Um by you all adopting a
[23:51] motion of inconsistency allows us to
[23:53] change the future land use map to be
[23:54] recreation and open space.
[23:58] There's no need to change the future
[24:00] land use map for this proposed resoning.
[24:03] So it would be staying the same um
[24:05] consistent with the property adjacent to
[24:07] the north that was also zone PUB. So
[24:10] this would be medium density residential
[24:11] with neighborhood center.
[24:17] Now for the update since council's
[24:19] meeting on the July the 20th.
[24:23] So with respect to the neighborhood
[24:25] meeting um the UDO is looking we're
[24:27] looking to update the language in the
[24:29] current UDO to indicate some
[24:31] clarification when and when and if and
[24:34] how the town would initiate a
[24:35] neighborhood meeting. So at the time of
[24:39] the this project coming forth for
[24:41] consideration, staff's direction was to
[24:44] not conduct a neighborhood meeting. Um
[24:46] resulting from the public hearing of the
[24:48] planning board process. Um staff decided
[24:50] to hold at council's direction the
[24:52] neighborhood meeting and that meeting
[24:54] was held on August 10th. So shortly
[24:57] following the direction from council,
[24:59] staff went ahead and moved forward with
[25:01] um the notifications that were sent. We
[25:04] expanded that geography to include
[25:06] several of the property owners outside
[25:08] of the normal 300t radius. So we've sent
[25:11] notices of the neighborhood meeting to
[25:12] about 331 property owners. That would
[25:15] include both those in um Short Johnson
[25:18] Oh, I'm sorry. This would be the folks
[25:20] off of Corbett Road and and Jack and
[25:22] Jack Road.
[25:24] So, the meeting was held here in the
[25:26] council chambers on August 10th at 6
[25:28] p.m. Um, we had about 22 signed in
[25:33] attendees, a good number of
[25:34] participants. Um, we were able to obtain
[25:38] um
[25:40] the park study that was provided um
[25:43] earlier to council that highlighted some
[25:45] of the concepts that were intended or
[25:48] conceptualized for Jack Road and Corbett
[25:51] Road property as well as um poster board
[25:54] showing the comprehensive transportation
[25:55] plan um which shows an extension of
[25:58] Corbett Road connecting to Jack Road and
[26:00] also the terminus court road at some
[26:02] point to connect to government code.
[26:06] So these materials were provided um for
[26:08] the public to observe. It generated some
[26:09] good conversation with staff. We also
[26:12] printed out some materials including the
[26:14] entire list of the table 4.25 of the UDO
[26:17] which shows all the list all the
[26:19] principal uses that would be allowed in
[26:21] the PUB zoning district.
[26:24] Some good questions were raised. Um
[26:26] would Corbett Road be extended? Um,
[26:29] could the CTP be modified, amended to
[26:32] reflect any changes to the existing
[26:34] road? Um, is there an opportunity for
[26:36] public input um for later development?
[26:40] Um, more pointedly, would is this going
[26:42] to be a wastewater treatment plant?
[26:45] And what uses would be allowed on the
[26:47] properties? kind of speaking of the town
[26:49] was to uh suddenly put up um a use that
[26:53] was not intended to I don't know to
[26:55] [clears throat] to occur on that on that
[26:57] project or sell the property to a
[26:59] private developer for a more intense
[27:01] development. Um
[27:05] more than happy to answer some of these
[27:07] questions um in the staff report and the
[27:09] presentation. And um Corbett Road is
[27:12] conceptualized to be a CTP. The
[27:14] alignment of that road and how it plays
[27:16] out future plans for the town. Um
[27:20] I have some of the excerpts and maybe we
[27:22] can talk about that in my next slides.
[27:28] So um some of the answers were for
[27:30] parcel 3. Um this was the property up by
[27:35] um by Shore Johnson Road and Veterans
[27:37] Parkway. It was communicated this
[27:38] property would serve as an extension of
[27:41] the upcoming public safety center for
[27:43] the Clayton Fire and PD. Um really the
[27:46] site plan there shows us having a
[27:48] driveway connecting the property to
[27:50] Short Johnson. So the obtaining of this
[27:52] property allows that connectivity to
[27:54] both Veterans Parkway and Short Johnson
[27:56] Road.
[27:58] Not a lot of discussion at the
[27:59] neighborhood meeting about this pro of
[28:01] this parcel. More discussion did occur
[28:04] with parcels one and two. So the staff
[28:07] communicated the adopted CTP and park
[28:10] review study. And I could add that when
[28:13] the CTP was adopted, it was a standard
[28:15] of protocol to assume that when those
[28:17] private developers were to come or
[28:19] obtain property, then we would acquire
[28:21] right away for the roads that are
[28:22] designated on the CTP, which is the comp
[28:25] transportation plan. Um, in this case,
[28:28] it's likely that we didn't anticipate
[28:30] the properties on Jack Road and Coral
[28:32] Road to be obtained by the town. So, if
[28:34] this was a private development that was
[28:36] seeking to annex and obtain services
[28:39] from the town, then we would definitely
[28:41] be requiring this road, this right away
[28:43] to be placed to connect um to Jack Road.
[28:48] Given that the town has that um
[28:52] approved in the CTP and we own the
[28:55] property, there is possibility that we don't have any commitments to
[29:00] that extension of the road. It's a
[29:02] possibility to amend the CTP, but that's
[29:05] not um subject at discussion right now.
[29:08] That's just something for uh for us to
[29:10] consider it later on down the road
[29:11] should we want to do that. Um that would
[29:13] require town council separate action to
[29:15] amend the CTP. Um there is no express we
[29:19] expressed that there are no projects
[29:20] known to date. So uncommitted with
[29:23] respect to extending Corbett Road other
[29:25] than what's designated on the CTP, but
[29:27] also not committing to any um awareness
[29:30] of current projects outside of what was
[29:32] provided with the park study. Um and
[29:36] also communicated that the existing
[29:38] plans are conceptual only. They're not committed to really this is
[29:42] a standard process that we experience
[29:44] with private development where there's a
[29:46] sought to do a conventional resoning
[29:48] from one district to the other. we're in the same um boat there.
[29:53] What was communicated was there would be
[29:55] a public process for future development
[29:58] of the property into a park um as well
[30:01] as any capital improvements that would
[30:03] occur on the properties um for
[30:05] allocation of funding would require a
[30:07] council's review and approval submitt
[30:09] through our own review process of
[30:12] prioritizations of capital improvement
[30:14] projects. So administration would be
[30:15] involved in that process but it would be
[30:17] a public process um that would come
[30:19] before to the public to know what was
[30:22] going to be occurring on those
[30:23] properties at a future date.
[30:28] [snorts]
[30:29] The the current transportation plan that
[30:31] was approved by council or adopted by
[30:33] council just last year does show that
[30:36] extension of corporate road and jack
[30:38] road. project key number 36. And there's
[30:41] also an extension of Corporate Road to
[30:42] Government Road, project key number 37.
[30:45] [clears throat]
[30:47] And the road improvements and extensions
[30:49] are yet to be determined. Just as if we
[30:51] had a private developer that was looking
[30:53] to reszone this property, we would
[30:55] inform them about these future plans on
[30:57] the property as well.
[30:59] Um, this is a
[31:02] look at the the busy CTP that we have,
[31:05] but there's a highlight that shows
[31:08] number 37 and 36 that I just um
[31:11] discussed,
[31:14] and I'll go ahead and point those out.
[31:15] So, this is the southern part of the
[31:17] town,
[31:19] and here's a blow up of the those two
[31:21] extensions that are shown on the
[31:23] comprehensive transportation plan.
[31:26] And this would provide connectivity um
[31:28] going all the way up to Amelia Church
[31:34] which would be shown um if I can show
[31:35] that right here. I don't like right
[31:37] there. So connecting
[31:40] oops connecting down here. I should
[31:42] probably have too much fun with this.
[31:44] [laughter]
[31:46] Okay. Um so some some great um other
[31:49] discussion was with regards to the parks
[31:51] review study that was provided in 2020
[31:54] on July 2026. Um there was a work
[31:58] session where the park study was
[31:59] provided to the council and there's some
[32:02] conceptual park and recreation
[32:03] programming and the park study
[32:05] identifies identifies nature trails
[32:07] greenways and trails open space
[32:10] playground nature play native plant
[32:12] gardens community gardens like
[32:14] pollinator gardens and meadows mountain
[32:16] biking and pump tracks maintenance area
[32:19] storage dog park disc golf shelter and
[32:22] picnic areas parking shelter and
[32:24] restrooms. Um, but these improvements to
[32:26] the property have are yet to be
[32:28] determined. They're really conceptual.
[32:30] So, here's [snorts] a concept of that
[32:32] design that is in the park study. That's
[32:36] um as a concept. So, this helps us
[32:39] visualize what might occur. In talking
[32:42] with our engineering department, um, if
[32:44] we were to align Corbett Road to Jack
[32:47] Road and we were to maintain this, uh,
[32:49] park concept, the idea would probably be
[32:51] to push it to one side of the property
[32:54] versus going directly down the middle.
[32:56] Um, but yet to be determined right now.
[32:58] The timing of the road to be placed is
[33:01] also subject to discussion. So if it's a
[33:04] park or if it if the town commits to
[33:06] having it a park when that project when
[33:09] the road gets built or not um is up to
[33:12] future future discussion.
[33:15] What we do know is that the CTP shows
[33:17] corporate road and we do know that the
[33:18] park study has this um and again
[33:21] non-committal but just as a concept
[33:23] there were other properties identified
[33:25] throughout town and this happened to be
[33:26] one of those that was ident that was um
[33:29] related to this project.
[33:35] » [snorts]
[33:36] >> So um a matter of zoning um uses in the
[33:39] UDO42
[33:41] uh table 4.25
[33:43] lists several uses or principal uses and
[33:46] are designated in this table with a P.
[33:48] That means a use permitted by right.
[33:52] When a use is permitted by right, that
[33:54] use does not require further town
[33:56] council action. So that's something that
[33:58] a project can move forward with um
[34:00] administrative reviews. So if this was a
[34:03] private developer, they would reszone
[34:04] the property and come back to council or
[34:07] they wouldn't have to come back to
[34:08] council. But in this case, for the
[34:09] allocation of spending of money, it
[34:12] would be going back to council since
[34:14] we're a public entity. Um, in any case,
[34:16] the you the permitted use table also has
[34:20] use has standards for specific principal
[34:22] uses and it's important to know that
[34:25] these standards cannot be modified
[34:26] through a conditional reasoning.
[34:29] [snorts] So, in the example of a
[34:31] wastewater treatment plant, which was
[34:33] brought up at the neighborhood meeting,
[34:36] um went ahead and did a quick analysis
[34:38] that shows
[34:40] that type of use falls within a major
[34:43] utility per the definitions of the UDO.
[34:47] And you can see that the UDO table has a
[34:49] row that shows all the principal uses
[34:51] and the columns are the zoning
[34:53] districts. And if there's a blank space
[34:56] in there, it's not permitted. If there's
[34:58] an S, it would be a special use permit.
[34:59] If it was a C, it would be a conditional
[35:01] reszoning. If it's a P, then it's a
[35:03] permitted use. And so when you look at
[35:05] the major utility, it would be a
[35:07] permitted use in the light industrial
[35:10] districts, the heavy industrial
[35:12] district, and also in the public
[35:14] facilities district. So on the furthest
[35:17] right there is a UDO standards 4.3.134.
[35:22] And that gives us the use specific
[35:25] standards for a major utility. So this
[35:29] definition just kind of tells you where
[35:31] the waste treatment plant would fall in
[35:33] a utility major and then the use
[35:35] specific standards that would be
[35:37] applicable to that use and the town
[35:39] would be abiding by these standards
[35:40] should this occur.
[35:44] So right there you can see um letter A,
[35:46] it talks about the distance from a
[35:48] residentially zoned lot would be 300
[35:50] foot.
[35:58] Going back to the history of where we're
[35:59] here and that concludes the neighborhood
[36:01] meeting component of the pro of my
[36:03] presentation. Um planning board
[36:05] unanimously recommended approval of
[36:07] these motions. There are two separate
[36:09] motions for the two different um kinds
[36:11] of consistency for the projects
[36:14] with parcels one and two um having the
[36:16] feature land use map update to be
[36:18] recreation and open space.
[36:21] And in your consistency statement
[36:22] sheets, these are getting designated
[36:24] with the color red and blue so you can
[36:26] understand which one um to apply for or
[36:29] to make the motion for. [sighs]
[36:33] And again, it's a it's a conventional
[36:35] reasonzoning plans show concepts. Timing
[36:39] of those implementation of those plans
[36:41] is unknown. There is a participatory
[36:43] process for those pro for those
[36:46] properties to be built with pound funds.
[36:48] And I'm available for any questions
[36:50] council may have.
[36:52] >> All right. Thank you, Conrad. Any
[36:53] questions or comments?
[36:57] >> All right. Thank you, sir. This is still
[36:59] noted as a public hearing and the public
[37:01] hearing is still open. If anyone wishes
[37:03] to speak on this matter, please step
[37:05] forward and state your name.
[37:10] >> Good evening.
[37:11] >> Uh Jason Meadows, 1285 Corbett Road. So
[37:14] immediately abuing uh parcel one. Um
[37:19] yeah, I just have I have trouble kind of
[37:21] getting along with this um unknown. I
[37:24] think we're at a private developer up
[37:26] here pursuing a conventional reszoning.
[37:29] Um that's generally looked at in a
[37:31] negative light. Um just saying we don't
[37:34] know what it's going to be. Not
[37:35] consistent with the future land use map.
[37:38] Can't commit to whether there's going to
[37:39] be a road there. Not going to commit to
[37:41] a park or any use restrictions.
[37:44] Um this seems incredibly premature.
[37:47] Without a plan, why reszone? Um, if you
[37:51] have to reszone, then let's put some
[37:53] conditions on this and make it
[37:55] palatable. Uh, it just it it doesn't sit
[37:58] well to
[38:00] throw, you know, a park would be great,
[38:04] but a park is not even a handshake
[38:06] agreement. A park is just a talking
[38:08] point. Um, there's a whole host of other
[38:10] uses that are allowable. One that we,
[38:14] you know, probably hit on the worst,
[38:16] which would be a wastewater treatment
[38:17] plant. We understand you probably won't
[38:18] do that. Maybe we don't need that. Um,
[38:22] but on the same token, if we don't need
[38:25] that, then why not strike it off the
[38:27] list? So, if this needs more time for
[38:30] the town to come up with what they
[38:32] really want to do here, we're willing to
[38:34] wait. Most of us have uh have lived
[38:37] there for quite a while. I'll probably
[38:39] be one of the newest residents next to
[38:40] this uh property, but um it just feels
[38:44] premature and unnecessary at this point
[38:46] until you guys have a little bit better
[38:47] sense of what you'd like to do. Uh but
[38:50] you know, eventually I understand, you
[38:52] know, the comprehensive plan would need
[38:53] to be revised. If there is a park here,
[38:55] it makes sense to take the road off.
[38:58] But, uh in general, you know, we
[39:00] appreciate the neighborhood meeting. I
[39:01] hate that we had to get it the way we
[39:03] got it, but um it is what it is. Uh that
[39:06] was all positive and and good
[39:08] conversation, but I just think there's
[39:09] too many unknowns to to continue to push
[39:12] forward um with really no no need for
[39:16] the rush that we see from our end. So we
[39:19] just appreciate your consideration to
[39:21] either further refine this or put some
[39:23] use restrictions on it or allow us to
[39:25] just continue to uh let this evolve over
[39:27] time. Thank you.
[39:29] >> Thank you.
[39:32] >> Anyone else?
[39:37] All right. No one else wishing to speak.
[39:38] I'll close the public hearing and turn
[39:40] it over to council for their discussion.
[39:48] » Mr. Casey. So my understanding is we're
[39:51] reszoning this obviously because town of
[39:53] Clayton land and so we wanted to just be
[39:55] public like we've done all the other
[39:57] parcels.
[39:58] um you know,
[40:01] you would not recommend or ever want to
[40:03] have to go through a whole another
[40:04] wastewater treatment facility and know
[40:06] we don't need to do one. Um so with that
[40:09] being said, I mean even if we
[40:10] conditionalized it and said it's not
[40:12] going to be used for a wastewater
[40:13] treatment facility. I know one council
[40:15] can't find another. Would that just mean
[40:18] we would just have to if you
[40:19] hypothetically again it's there's no way
[40:22] in probably my lifetime it'll it'll ever
[40:24] be anything like that. Hopefully, it's a
[40:26] park and I think that's obviously that's
[40:27] the intent. But I mean, if we did
[40:30] conditionalize that, would it just
[40:32] require another council to take that
[40:34] condition off the table? I don't know.
[40:35] That's a question for Jim or or what.
[40:39] >> I I can comment on that, Councilman
[40:41] Casey.
[40:42] >> Thank you. Sorry.
[40:43] >> So, the if we were to reinitiate this as
[40:45] a conditional resoning, we would need to
[40:48] go through the process again. We can't
[40:50] swap conventional to conditional during
[40:52] the process. to answer your question.
[40:58] » Yeah, that I think [clears throat] your
[41:00] question is it is it permanent once it's once
[41:05] it's conditioned and um it another
[41:08] council could change it? Absolutely.
[41:13] It'd be another it'd be an amendment
[41:14] process or a re or reasonzoning process.
[41:19] >> Okay. So with that being said, I mean I respect the comment, but I guess even
[41:24] if we conditionalize it is not going to
[41:25] be a wastewater treatment facility. I I
[41:27] don't I mean it's not I think it's
[41:30] beside the fact because it would
[41:32] potentially, you know, who knows what 20
[41:35] years ago now what their council has in
[41:38] mind, but I mean they could just
[41:40] conceivably just change it, you know,
[41:42] just undo what we've done. Um, and
[41:45] obviously we've already told you a
[41:47] thousand times there's no intent for it
[41:48] to be anything like a wastewater
[41:50] treatment facility or anything like
[41:52] that. So I hope that makes you feel a
[41:54] little bit better, but
[41:56] I'm sorry, but um I'll give you my
[41:59] address if it ever comes to be a
[42:00] wastewater treatment while I'm up here.
[42:01] You can come uh uh talk to me. But
[42:04] anyway, uh I'm have no other questions.
[42:08] >> Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Uh I was
[42:10] just going to say um so before anything
[42:12] does get built there, there will be
[42:14] another
[42:16] decision on our part and another chance
[42:18] to contribute before anything happens.
[42:20] So even if somewhere when we're going to
[42:23] propose building a wastewater treatment
[42:24] plant there, which hopefully not, um
[42:28] then you know we will still have some
[42:31] discretion or whoever is on the council
[42:32] at that point will be able to um hear
[42:36] from the people and make sure that
[42:37] they're not doing something that is ill
[42:38] advised.
[42:39] >> Absolutely. And I think that really the
[42:41] intent will always be to have public
[42:43] input on what's going to take place on
[42:45] that acreage when it comes to developing
[42:47] it as a park property. Right.
[42:50] But it is true in the state of North
[42:52] Carolina, one council is not legally
[42:54] bound by another. So that's general
[42:58] statute for North Carolina. It doesn't
[43:00] have anything to do with what we're what
[43:02] we can do. It just dictates what we can
[43:04] do.
[43:06] Mr. Casey.
[43:07] >> Yeah. One other comment, too, and I and
[43:08] I appreciate, you know, obviously you
[43:10] dove dove into it and they're very
[43:12] concerned. I'll say I've been up here
[43:13] long enough now and I'm not a veteran by
[43:16] no means, but I I've seen it enough that
[43:17] like, you know, that's a a valuable
[43:21] piece of land and, you know, any
[43:23] developer would be foaming at the mouth
[43:24] to get their hands on it to develop it.
[43:26] And um, you know, I I think you you
[43:29] know, for the people that live in that
[43:30] area, um, you know, it's I think
[43:33] hopefully you're you know, it's exciting
[43:35] that here it's going to be a park or
[43:37] something like that, not you know,
[43:39] potentially another development. Um, so
[43:41] anyway, just want to throw that two
[43:42] cents in cuz a lot of people that come
[43:44] here and they they they they're upset or
[43:47] they, you know, they have feedback, they
[43:50] they'd love for the town, they always
[43:51] say, "Well, I wish the town would buy
[43:53] it." And in this situation, we actually
[43:55] did buy that land. And, you know, as
[43:57] we've been discussing, you know, what
[43:59] our intentions are for it. It's not
[44:00] anything that um unfortunately some
[44:03] other people you know you know get
[44:05] frustrated about or disgruntled about um
[44:08] in some of the areas other areas of of the area. But anyway, thank you. Now
[44:12] I'll completely be quiet.
[44:16] >> Anyone else? Miss Archer.
[44:18] >> Uh yes, thank you for everyone who
[44:20] attended the neighborhood meeting. I saw
[44:22] there was 20ome folks there and
[44:24] appreciate uh the town notifying the 300
[44:27] or however many folks to let everybody
[44:29] know that this was happening. So um and I thought from the neighborhood
[44:33] meeting minutes that people asked very
[44:35] good questions and uh as far as the
[44:38] commenter this evening and I also
[44:39] received your email. I understand the
[44:42] desire for certainty. Personally, I
[44:44] would love additional certainty as well.
[44:45] I like the current proposal that to have
[44:48] a connector road in there as well as a
[44:50] park and that would be my hope that that
[44:52] would come to fruition. Um, in terms of
[44:54] certainty, you had mentioned you about
[44:56] parcel one which I believe could have
[44:58] been developed to residential large lot
[45:00] standards which you would have had, you
[45:03] know, minimal input on how that would
[45:05] have unfolded as well. I I do think
[45:07] having this be a town-owned parcel will
[45:09] give the neighbors a better result
[45:11] potentially, I hope, uh, compared to
[45:14] residential development that could have
[45:15] occurred there. But on in that term, in
[45:18] terms of all that, I agree with the
[45:19] comments that have already been made
[45:20] that I do think that there will be
[45:22] future opportunities for public input as
[45:24] these plans come to fruition. So, thank
[45:26] you and and thank you for participating.
[45:31] » Anyone else?
[45:36] All right.
[45:39] Hearing no other um comments, I'll
[45:41] entertain a motion.
[45:45] » Mr. Mayor, I can go ahead and make a
[45:47] motion.
[45:49] >> Yes, sir.
[45:53] And this motion would be for adoption of
[45:56] ordinance 2026-07-03
[46:02] with motion one and two and and the
[46:05] consistency statement. And would I read
[46:08] both of those motions into the record?
[46:11] Okay.
[46:18] Uh I see. So, we're recommending two
[46:20] separate motions. Okay, I'm getting
[46:22] there. I'm getting there. So, [laughter]
[46:25] uh here is motion number one. And I make
[46:27] a motion to approve the town PUB
[46:30] conventional reszoning ordinance
[46:32] 2026-07-03
[46:34] for parcel 3 identified as
[46:36] NCIN16581-15-2514
[46:41] based on the consistency with the future
[46:43] land use map goals, policies, andor
[46:45] strategies in the adopted 2045
[46:47] comprehensive growth plan in that it is
[46:50] consistent with the future land use map
[46:52] designates the property as medium
[46:54] density residential with a neighborhood
[46:56] center overlay. LA goal LU1 which aims
[46:59] to preserve Clayton's character while
[47:00] allowing for growth and development in
[47:02] appropriate areas. Goal SI7 which seeks
[47:06] to ensure the capacity of emergency
[47:07] services as the population increases.
[47:10] This action is reasonable and in the
[47:12] public interest in that the
[47:13] comprehensive growth plan strives to
[47:15] ensure sufficient capacity of civic and
[47:17] emergency related services as the
[47:19] population grows. the requested resoning
[47:22] permits uses that allow for expansion
[47:24] and continuation of civic and emergency
[47:26] related services.
[47:30] » Second.
[47:31] >> We have a motion and a second for
[47:33] approval. Is there any further
[47:35] discussion?
[47:36] >> All in favor say I.
[47:38] >> I.
[47:38] >> Oppose like sign. Motion carries.
[47:44] » Mr. Mayor, I would like to go ahead and
[47:45] make motion number two.
[47:47] >> Yes, sir. which would be approval
[47:49] inconsistent with the 2045 comprehensive
[47:52] growth plan. I make a motion to approve
[47:54] the town QB conventional reasonzoning
[47:57] ordinance 2026-07-03
[48:01] identified as parcels 1 and two of the
[48:03] request and NC pins
[48:06] 164700-85-1743
[48:10] and 164700-94-1412
[48:14] respectively.
[48:16] While the proposed resoning is generally
[48:18] consistent with the adopted 2045
[48:20] comprehensive growth plan in that it is
[48:22] consistent with goal LU1 which aims to
[48:25] preserve Clayton's character while
[48:27] allowing for growth and development in
[48:28] appropriate areas. Goal PR1 which
[48:31] supports the development of Clayton as a
[48:33] regional destination for recreation and
[48:35] trailbased tourism. It is inconsistent
[48:38] in that the property identified as
[48:39] parcel one is designated as agricultural
[48:42] and rural rural residential in the
[48:44] future land use map which primarily
[48:46] envisions residential development on the
[48:48] subject property. The property
[48:51] identified as parcel 2 in the undesated
[48:54] is undesated in the future land use map.
[48:57] This action is reasonable and in the
[48:59] public interest in that the
[49:00] comprehensive growth plan strives to
[49:02] enhance recreational opportunities. the
[49:05] requested reszoning permits uses that
[49:07] allow for the connection of park systems
[49:09] and encourage tourism.
[49:14] All right, we have a motion. Do I hear a
[49:16] second? Second.
[49:18] >> We have a motion and a second for
[49:19] approval of the second motion. Is there
[49:21] any further discussion?
[49:23] All in favor say I. I.
[49:26] >> Oppose like sign. And the motion
[49:28] carries. All right. Thank you all very
[49:30] much.
[49:36] Up next on the agenda is the
[49:37] reimbursement resolution for the general
[49:39] fund capa capital investment program.
[49:47] » Oh, I'm sorry.
[49:49] No.
[49:54] » Oh, I'm sorry. It's the I'm sorry,
[49:55] Robert. I'm so excited to get to get,
[49:58] you know, get you back up here again. My
[50:00] apologies. Under new business, the next
[50:03] item on the agenda is East Main Street
[50:05] Sidewalk Connector BL000050,
[50:08] award of contract.
[50:11] Hi, Shannon. [laughter]
[50:13] >> That's just what my agenda says. It
[50:15] doesn't necessarily mean
[50:16] >> Yes. Good evening, mayor, members of the
[50:19] town council, and town manager. I'm
[50:20] Tucker Creech, uh, project manager with
[50:22] the town, and I'll be presenting this on
[50:25] behalf of Shannon tonight. Before you
[50:27] tonight is a bid recommendation for the
[50:29] East Main Street Sidewalk Connector
[50:31] BL000050
[50:33] and East Main Street public parking lot
[50:35] along with a resolution authorizing
[50:37] contract award and execution.
[50:40] This project includes sidewalk
[50:41] improvements along the East Main Street
[50:43] corridor, including installation of new
[50:45] sidewalks on both sides of the roadway,
[50:47] drainage and hydraulic improvements,
[50:49] traffic signal modifications, and
[50:51] pavement markings. The sidewalk
[50:53] connector was selected for funding by
[50:54] Campo through the FHWA local assistance
[50:57] program lap on May 30th, 2022. The
[51:01] project was initially awarded $650,000
[51:04] at a 70% federal and 30% local cost
[51:06] share and approximately $534,839
[51:11] remain for the construction phase. The
[51:13] town has submitted a supplemental
[51:14] funding request to Campo for $1,393,999
[51:20] proposed at a 50% federal and a 50%
[51:23] local cost share. The request remained
[51:25] subject to Campo review and approval.
[51:27] The East Main Street public parking lot
[51:29] was bid concurrently as an alternate. If
[51:31] approved, the parking lot is locally
[51:33] funded. Bids were publicly opened on
[51:35] July 23rd, 2026. Fred Smith Company
[51:39] submitted the lowest responsive
[51:40] responsible bid of $1,194,900
[51:44] for the East Main Street sidewalk
[51:46] connector and 222,200
[51:49] for the East Main Street public parking
[51:50] lot bid alternate. Construction duration
[51:52] for this is 240 calendar days and award
[51:55] of the sidewalk connector contract is
[51:57] contingent upon a Campo approval of the
[52:00] supplemental funding request. The bid
[52:02] package was reviewed by the engineer of
[52:04] record and the town's procurement and
[52:06] contracts manager. Both recommend award
[52:08] of the contract to Fred Smith company as
[52:10] the lowest responsive responsible
[52:12] bidder. Staff respectfully requests that
[52:15] town council adopt the resolution
[52:16] conditionally awarding the East Main
[52:18] Street sidewalk connector construction
[52:20] contract and awarding the East Main
[52:22] Street public parking lot construction
[52:24] contract to Fred Smith Company,
[52:26] authorizing the town manager or his
[52:28] designate to execute the construction
[52:30] contract and any associated change
[52:31] orders necessary to complete the project
[52:34] within the approved budget. I'm happy to
[52:36] answer any questions the council may
[52:37] have.
[52:38] >> Thank you, Tucker. Any questions or
[52:41] comments? Mr. Case,
[52:43] >> hey. Hey, Tucker. Uh, sorry, I had a
[52:45] couple questions. So, um, obviously I'm
[52:48] familiar with this project and it's been
[52:50] uh drugg along for quite a while, but
[52:54] are we also making some improvements
[52:55] over there by the railroad too and the
[52:57] signaling signal? Is that is this
[52:59] capturing that too? The signal uh where
[53:03] um
[53:05] uh where it intersects to by the post
[53:07] office as well or is this
[53:08] >> central street?
[53:09] >> Yeah, central street. Yeah, this is
[53:11] separate separate.
[53:12] >> All right. I just want I just getting
[53:14] those two confused. And then then that's
[53:15] okay. So the next question I did have
[53:17] then is um regarding the phasing of
[53:19] this. I know that there's that parking
[53:21] lot you're talking about. Um is that
[53:23] going to be is the intent to have that
[53:26] parking lot kind of situated first and
[53:28] then do the road improvements to best as
[53:31] possible or
[53:32] >> Yes, sir. So the the parking lot will
[53:34] take place at the beginning on the front
[53:36] end of the project and while the parking
[53:38] lot is being built, those spaces will
[53:39] not be destroyed until that parking lot
[53:42] is ready to be used.
[53:44] >> Okay. Thank you.
[53:45] >> Yes, sir.
[53:47] Anyone else?
[53:51] » All right. Thank you, sir.
[53:52] >> Yes, sir.
[53:52] >> Great job. Thank you, Tucker.
[54:01] » Yeah. Yeah, I need a motion. I'll
[54:03] entertain a motion.
[54:05] >> I make a motion to
[54:11] uh make a motion to um approval of
[54:14] contract and agreement and then I um do
[54:17] I have to make these motions separately
[54:18] or can I make them all together?
[54:21] or I need
[54:22] to make them separately?
[54:23] >> Contact.
[54:24] >> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve
[54:27] contract and agreement for the East Main
[54:30] Street sidewalk connector BL000050.
[54:33] >> Second.
[54:34] >> We have a motion and a second for
[54:36] approval of the contract agreement. Is
[54:37] there any further discussion?
[54:39] >> All in favor say I.
[54:41] >> I.
[54:42] >> Opposed. Motion carries.
[54:44] >> And then I'll make a motion to adopt
[54:46] resolution 2026-50
[54:49] for the East Main Street sidewalk
[54:51] connector.
[54:53] >> Second. We have a motion and a second
[54:56] for the adoption of resolution number
[54:57] 2026-50
[54:59] for the East Main Street sidewalk
[55:01] connector. Is there any further
[55:02] discussion? All in favor say I.
[55:05] >> I.
[55:06] >> Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.
[55:13] Now up next is a reimbursement
[55:14] resolution for the general fund capital
[55:16] improvement program.
[55:27] Good evening, Mayor, members of council.
[55:29] Uh tonight we're asking council to
[55:31] approve a uh reimbursement resolution
[55:33] for the general fund capital improvement
[55:35] program, an amount not to exceed $70
[55:37] million. If uh council recalls back when
[55:41] Davenport did their affordability
[55:43] analysis, that 5-year period from 2027
[55:47] to 2031,
[55:49] uh there was projected about $65.8
[55:51] million in new debt issuance. So, we're
[55:54] adding a little bit of inflation factor
[55:55] there. This will give the town
[55:57] flexibility to reimburse itself for any
[56:00] uh I'll refer to as soft costs,
[56:02] engineering, design, so on before we
[56:05] actually enter into a finance agreement
[56:06] for a project. But by having this in
[56:09] place, that allows us to reimburse ourel
[56:11] for that. Um, so again, we're asking
[56:14] council to approve that. Any questions?
[56:16] I'll be happy to uh answer.
[56:19] >> Questions or comments.
[56:22] >> All right. Thank you, Robert. I'll
[56:25] entertain a motion.
[56:29] Mr. Mr. Mayor, I will make a motion for
[56:32] adoption of the resolution for the
[56:36] general fund capital improvement program
[56:38] reimbursement.
[56:39] >> Second.
[56:40] >> We have a motion and a second for
[56:42] adoption of the resolution. Is there any
[56:44] further discussion? All in favor say I.
[56:47] >> I.
[56:48] >> Opposed. Motion carries.
[56:51] >> Thank you.
[56:51] >> Yes, sir. Thank you. Up next are budget
[56:54] amendments.
[56:57] >> Okay. Good evening again. Uh tonight we
[56:59] have four budget amendments. Three of
[57:01] them are for new capital project bud
[57:04] budget ordinances and one is an
[57:06] amendment to an existing capital project
[57:08] budget ordinance. Uh the first one is
[57:10] the uh capital project budget ordinance
[57:13] to renovate and uh restore the Robertson
[57:17] Muar building. Uh we're allocating $2
[57:20] million for that project. uh 1.3 million
[57:23] of town funds, payo funds, and the
[57:26] remaining $700,000 is the uh grant award
[57:29] we received from the re recent
[57:31] legislative action.
[57:34] Uh the second uh capital project
[57:37] ordinance is for the uh East Main Street
[57:40] pedestrian connector, which is the
[57:42] project you just awarded the contract
[57:43] for. Um, that's a $2.3 million total
[57:47] cost project and not quite a 50/50 split
[57:51] because there's some ineligible costs in
[57:53] there that DOT won't reimburse. Uh, but
[57:56] basically it's a million2 contribution
[57:58] from the town and about a million one
[58:00] from uh the TIP program.
[58:04] The uh third capital project budget
[58:06] ordinance is uh this is our capital
[58:10] improvement program reserve. This is the
[58:12] uh five pennies that council has
[58:15] committed to fund the CIP program. Uh
[58:18] right now that stands at about $6.1
[58:20] million and represents three years
[58:23] worth. It represents 2024, 2025, and
[58:27] 2026. That five that five penny reserve.
[58:30] We're putting that into a capital
[58:32] separate capital project uh fund. Help
[58:36] us be able to keep track of that better
[58:38] as we move forward. and uh when we need
[58:40] it, we'll move money out of that fund to
[58:43] the applicable
[58:45] capital project that it's associated
[58:47] with.
[58:48] Uh the last one is an amendment to our
[58:51] uh existing uh general governmental
[58:55] program initiative fund. And what we're
[58:57] doing there is taking uh $300,000 that
[59:00] we had allocated in there for sidewalks
[59:02] and improvements and we're going to
[59:04] transfer that over to the East Main
[59:05] Street uh pedestrian project to help
[59:08] fund the town's contribution for that.
[59:13] So, it's just a realignment in the
[59:14] budget. We'll pull that out and transfer
[59:16] that money over.
[59:20] Any questions on any of those
[59:23] >> questions or comments?
[59:27] All right. Thank you, Robert. Um, any
[59:30] further discussion?
[59:33] If not, I'll entertain a motion.
[59:38] » Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion
[59:40] to adopt the ordinance for the budget
[59:43] amendments.
[59:46] » Second.
[59:47] >> We have a motion and a second for the
[59:49] adoption of the ordinance for the budget
[59:51] amendments. [clears throat] Is there any
[59:52] further discussion? All in favor say I.
[59:56] >> oppose like sign. Motion carries. Thank
[59:59] you. Thank you.
[1:00:03] » I'll now open the floor for public
[1:00:04] comment. Anyone wishing to speak, please
[1:00:06] step forward and state your name for the
[1:00:08] record.
[1:00:20] Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of
[1:00:21] council. My name is Mike Edwards
[1:00:23] Twining. I live at 40 Red Crab Epo Court
[1:00:25] here in Clayton and appreciate the
[1:00:28] opportunity to follow up on the comments
[1:00:30] I made at your last meeting regarding a
[1:00:32] significant transportation issue that
[1:00:34] deserves your attention and action now
[1:00:37] before it becomes a much larger and more
[1:00:40] expensive problem. With a retail
[1:00:42] expansion along Clayton Boulevard,
[1:00:44] specifically the construction of a new
[1:00:46] Target department store in a Costco
[1:00:48] warehouse adjacent to the existing
[1:00:50] Walmart, it is undeniably clear that
[1:00:53] traffic volumes will increase
[1:00:55] substantially in that corridor.
[1:00:58] Congestion already exists today and
[1:01:00] these new developments will only
[1:01:02] compound this issue. Anyone who travels
[1:01:06] that stretch of road, especially between
[1:01:08] 3:00 and 6:30 on a weekday afternoon
[1:01:11] feels my pain. They know what I'm
[1:01:12] talking about. But before I go any
[1:01:14] further, I would like to thank council
[1:01:16] member Casey and planning director
[1:01:18] Almeido for taking the time to speak
[1:01:21] with me after that last council meeting
[1:01:23] and for our follow-up email
[1:01:25] conversations. I genuinely appreciate
[1:01:28] the dialogue and the opportunity to
[1:01:30] better understand what the town and DOT
[1:01:33] are considering. So, thank you,
[1:01:35] gentlemen. Adding an extended right turn
[1:01:38] lane to access that new retail area is
[1:01:41] part of the plan, and I certainly
[1:01:43] understand how that could help traffic
[1:01:44] getting into the new development. But
[1:01:47] respectfully, I believe that makes only
[1:01:50] a dent in a much larger problem. It
[1:01:53] doesn't address the congestion that's
[1:01:55] already happening on Clayton Boulevard
[1:01:57] or the additional traffic the new
[1:02:00] Target, Costco, and other retail
[1:02:02] development will bring. Other measures
[1:02:05] are being discussed to address
[1:02:07] congestion. I certainly hope those
[1:02:09] measures work, but given the growth
[1:02:11] we're seeing, we also need to think
[1:02:13] about additional capacity. I've seen
[1:02:16] this movie before. The concern here is
[1:02:19] that we already know how the movie can
[1:02:21] end. Look at Capitol Boulevard between
[1:02:24] Wake Forest and Raleigh. It serves much
[1:02:26] the same purpose for that area that
[1:02:28] Clayton Boulevard serves for us. A major
[1:02:32] route in and out of town. Growth
[1:02:34] continued, traffic increased, and road
[1:02:38] improvements didn't keep pace. The
[1:02:41] result, years of stopand go traffic. I
[1:02:45] don't want Clayton Boulevard to become
[1:02:47] our version of Capitol Boulevard. We
[1:02:49] shouldn't wait until we're sitting in
[1:02:51] bumper-to-bumper traffic every day,
[1:02:53] watching the backups skid longer and the
[1:02:55] delays get worse to finally decide we
[1:02:59] needed more lanes earlier.
[1:03:02] This is a safety issue, an economic
[1:03:04] issue, and a quality of life issue. So,
[1:03:07] I'm asking the town council to please
[1:03:10] formally petition NC DOT to make adding
[1:03:14] a travel lane in both directions on this
[1:03:16] stretch of Clayton Boulevard a priority.
[1:03:19] The growth isn't coming, it's here,
[1:03:22] [clears throat] and now is a time to
[1:03:24] make sure Clayton Boulevard is ready to
[1:03:26] handle it. I believe Clayton residents
[1:03:29] deserve better than to spend the next 10
[1:03:31] to 15 years sitting in traffic waiting
[1:03:33] for the road to catch up. Don't you?
[1:03:37] Thank you for your time, your service to
[1:03:38] our community, and your consideration.
[1:03:41] Good evening.
[1:03:42] >> Thank you so much.
[1:03:55] » I'mma tell you, Bruce is going to insist
[1:03:57] on ladies first.
[1:04:05] Good evening, town of Clayton. It's Kam
[1:04:08] Fulwood from the Johnston County Public
[1:04:10] Health Department again with your
[1:04:11] quarterly update. I just wanted to make
[1:04:14] sure that everybody in Clayton knew that
[1:04:16] we had a medical facility, which is your
[1:04:19] public health department. We have
[1:04:21] services for adult health. Uh we have a
[1:04:24] child health clinic. We have
[1:04:25] epidemiology. Um we have health
[1:04:28] promotion programs. We have an on-site
[1:04:30] lab. We just want to make sure that
[1:04:32] everybody who needs medical care in our
[1:04:34] county can access it with no barriers.
[1:04:37] We also want to make sure that our
[1:04:39] rising seventh graders and 12th graders
[1:04:41] are getting their vaccines for back to
[1:04:43] school. We're taking appointments and
[1:04:45] making appointments every day. So, let's
[1:04:48] make sure that those who would like the
[1:04:49] vaccine, they can access that. We also
[1:04:53] have a chronic pain self-management
[1:04:55] class that we're actually working with
[1:04:57] your parks and wreck to offer. and we
[1:04:59] are uber excited and uber thank you. Uh
[1:05:02] we want to say thank you so much for
[1:05:04] that opportunity. Um and that'll be
[1:05:06] coming up here shortly. We have a
[1:05:08] virtual smoking sessation class. So if
[1:05:11] anyone who is interested in quitting
[1:05:13] smoking um who's over 18, we would like
[1:05:15] for you to participate if you like if it
[1:05:17] fits into your schedule. We also have a
[1:05:21] um community resource fair that is
[1:05:24] coming up September the 11th if anyone
[1:05:27] would like to stop by our behavioral
[1:05:29] health division and pick up some
[1:05:30] information and resources as it relates
[1:05:33] to uh community resources, mental
[1:05:36] health, and general health. We would
[1:05:37] love for you to swing by. Um there may
[1:05:40] be some food available.
[1:05:44] [laughter]
[1:05:45] Um, and we also have a diabetes
[1:05:47] prevention program that will be starting
[1:05:49] at the beginning of September. Believe
[1:05:51] it or not, uh, we want to make sure that
[1:05:54] we don't have everybody become, um, type
[1:05:56] 2 diabetic. So, any way that you can
[1:05:59] prevent that, uh, please take advantage
[1:06:01] of that free program. Um, I also want to
[1:06:05] mention that we do have access to the
[1:06:07] 988 suicide and crisis lifeline. So, if
[1:06:12] any of our residents in our county are
[1:06:14] um you know, needing some resources as
[1:06:16] it relates to mental health and suicide,
[1:06:19] 988 is the number they would call. Thank
[1:06:22] you so much.
[1:06:23] >> Thank you so much for the updates.
[1:06:37] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council
[1:06:39] members. I'm Bruce Neglin with the the
[1:06:41] president of the Clayton Historical
[1:06:42] Association. I'll take a break for just
[1:06:44] a second.
[1:06:55] » Thank you.
[1:07:03] Congratulations,
[1:07:10] Robert, by the way. I I enjoyed working
[1:07:12] with you when I was working for the
[1:07:13] town.
[1:07:15] Although we had our disagreements, you
[1:07:16] were usually always right. So,
[1:07:18] [laughter]
[1:07:19] what could I do, right? But anyway, um
[1:07:22] we are having a celebration, America 250
[1:07:25] celebration of uh of uh America and uh
[1:07:30] in our little part here of America in
[1:07:32] Clayton in Johnston County. It's the
[1:07:34] America 250 Heritage Festival
[1:07:37] celebrating Clayton's story on September
[1:07:39] 12th, um from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
[1:07:44] And it's going to be at Town Square. And
[1:07:46] first before anything else, I wanted to
[1:07:47] mention that uh um Amy Sharon has been
[1:07:51] just a gem to work with and getting uh
[1:07:54] all the things worked out for there. So
[1:07:56] I wanted to say say we appreciate that a
[1:07:58] lot. The goal of this is to uh present
[1:08:01] to the community a
[1:08:05] I don't want to say a recreation because
[1:08:06] it's not it's not even a replication but
[1:08:09] something similar to show what a village
[1:08:12] in the mid70s
[1:08:15] would have been like in the area that
[1:08:18] eventually became a 100 years later
[1:08:20] Clayton North Carolina. And uh so we're
[1:08:23] going to have all sorts of different uh
[1:08:25] activities. We have about 15 uh
[1:08:29] demonstrators. Uh that doesn't sound
[1:08:31] right, does it? But it sort of sounds
[1:08:33] right, but not really. I guess
[1:08:35] demonstrations, let's put it that way.
[1:08:37] Uh blacksmith, um beekeeping, historic
[1:08:40] tools, candle making, uh Native American
[1:08:43] display, uh some North Carolina
[1:08:46] folklore, uh um let's see, this is only
[1:08:50] a draft version, so I'm [laughter]
[1:08:53] still making changes. Uh we're going to
[1:08:54] learn about colonial clothing and um uh
[1:08:58] we're going to have a birds of prey uh
[1:09:00] demonstration too. So I think it's a red
[1:09:03] tail hawk that's going to be be on the
[1:09:05] thing. We're going to also have some
[1:09:06] traditional foods including Brunswick
[1:09:09] stew right there in the parking lot. Um
[1:09:12] kids will be able to learn how to make
[1:09:13] rag dolls. Um we're going to have some
[1:09:16] period music and toys and games. Um,
[1:09:19] we're going to have uh an emperic an
[1:09:22] African apothecary. How do how did uh
[1:09:26] those folks uh heal each heal
[1:09:29] themselves? And uh and turns out it's a
[1:09:31] lot like the way the life white folks
[1:09:33] did, too. But um uh we're going to also
[1:09:36] have a spinning wheel spinning cotton
[1:09:38] and all that kind of stuff to show how
[1:09:39] that works. And uh we're just real
[1:09:42] excited about that. The other thing that
[1:09:44] we're going to be doing is having um uh
[1:09:48] Has anybody ever heard of an ordinary?
[1:09:52] Back in the day, it was uh kind of like
[1:09:55] a tavern, but it was almost more like a
[1:09:57] gathering space um where uh folks uh who
[1:10:02] were who were traveling would stop and
[1:10:05] they would be lodging as well as care
[1:10:08] for their horses. Um,
[1:10:11] and of course a tavern and you had to
[1:10:13] have that and um and other things like
[1:10:16] that, but it was also like a town
[1:10:18] gathering spot where uh people learn the
[1:10:21] news of the day and and what was going
[1:10:23] on everywhere else. Um, we're going to
[1:10:26] have a little our own recreation of
[1:10:29] Gregory's ordinance, which actually was
[1:10:31] a real place uh at the east end far east
[1:10:35] end of uh Front Street uh close by near
[1:10:39] in the area of Highway 42 in Front
[1:10:42] Street. Um
[1:10:44] and um uh so we're going to have one of
[1:10:47] those in order to be able to
[1:10:52] um debut a commemorative
[1:10:56] beer um Gregory's Ordinary uh that uh
[1:11:01] Deep River is doing for us uh that will
[1:11:03] be available from that day to the rest
[1:11:06] through the rest of 2026.
[1:11:10] So uh is that the right way? 2026.
[1:11:12] Anyway, and um so it was also the spot
[1:11:16] of our own little regulator uh uprising
[1:11:20] where some a bunch of residents, a
[1:11:22] number of residents in the area uh were
[1:11:25] upset at the king's taxes and the uh way
[1:11:29] some of his figures and subjects were uh
[1:11:32] were not were were behaving with in
[1:11:35] their eyes mismanaging and that kind of
[1:11:37] thing. And uh of course those uprisings
[1:11:40] led ultimately to our uh independence.
[1:11:44] Um and let's see. So we're also going to
[1:11:47] have Camp Flintlock here with us. Um uh
[1:11:50] they're going to do a drum and fore,
[1:11:52] have a musket demonstration, have a
[1:11:54] colonial store, so you get to see other
[1:11:56] things like that. And then the the thing
[1:11:58] that I'm really excited about in
[1:12:00] addition to all the other stuff that
[1:12:02] we're doing is we're going to have two
[1:12:04] readings of the Declaration of
[1:12:05] Independence that day. and listening to
[1:12:09] one person read the declaration could be
[1:12:11] a little tedious and for the person as
[1:12:13] well as for the listeners. So, we're
[1:12:15] going to shake it up and have multiple
[1:12:17] people reading uh the declaration both
[1:12:20] times. And uh we're going to extend
[1:12:23] invitations to each of you if you're
[1:12:25] available to come out and uh read a few
[1:12:28] lines of the declaration. So, we hope
[1:12:29] that everybody will come out for that.
[1:12:32] And what else do we need to say? We
[1:12:33] still need some volunteers. Um, so
[1:12:36] anybody can reach me if you want to join
[1:12:38] us that day. And I do want to thank our sponsors uh Duke Energy Foundation
[1:12:44] signed on real early with us and we
[1:12:46] appreciate that. A major uh uh grant for
[1:12:50] that from them and um Hometown Realy HTR
[1:12:54] and the town of Clayton as well and the
[1:12:57] Clayton Historical Association. So, uh,
[1:13:00] we appreciate all that you all do
[1:13:02] daytoday and hope that you'll come out
[1:13:04] on September 12th for the America 250
[1:13:08] Heritage Festival, uh, celebrating
[1:13:10] Clayton's story at Town Square. So,
[1:13:13] >> sounds very exciting.
[1:13:15] >> It's going to be I like it.
[1:13:16] >> Yeah. Well, good.
[1:13:17] >> Thank you.
[1:13:18] >> Are you going to be in town?
[1:13:19] >> I think so. On September 12th. I got to
[1:13:21] look at that calendar. I would love to.
[1:13:22] >> And then mark it up.
[1:13:24] >> Yes. Okay. Good deal. Thank you. Thank
[1:13:27] you, Bruce. Anyone
[1:13:31] else?
[1:13:34] All right. No one else wishing to speak.
[1:13:35] I'll close public comment.
[1:13:41] Uh now we'll jump down to staff reports
[1:13:43] beginning with the town manager.
[1:13:47] Uh two quick items. One, I did want to
[1:13:49] uh address the the questions about
[1:13:51] Clayton Boulevard. uh it's a few years
[1:13:54] old and so we were going to have to
[1:13:56] check with DOT in terms of the status
[1:13:58] but uh one of their the plan that they
[1:14:00] had had for that corridor was to convert
[1:14:02] it to a reduced conflict intersection.
[1:14:04] So if anybody's driven on NC Highway 55
[1:14:07] in the Holly Springs area in western
[1:14:08] Wake County effectively uh it reduces
[1:14:12] the number of actual leftovers or full
[1:14:14] access intersections. uh from a safety
[1:14:17] perspective, it eliminates uh some of
[1:14:19] the most uh uh uh detrimental uh
[1:14:23] movements that could cause accidents. Uh
[1:14:26] but also from a traffic flow, it allows
[1:14:27] you to get a lot more capacity up and
[1:14:29] down the road with the existing lanes
[1:14:31] that are there um as opposed to having
[1:14:34] to just continue to add lanage. Um it's
[1:14:37] been a few years. I do know that some of
[1:14:38] those conversations uh kind of revived
[1:14:40] slightly when we were discussing the
[1:14:41] Hebner property with them and and the
[1:14:43] turn lanes that ultimately ended up
[1:14:44] being required, but uh we can certainly
[1:14:47] look at what their plan was to that. I
[1:14:49] don't believe it was in the the late
[1:14:50] most recent stip, but I'll certainly um
[1:14:54] work with staff to have conversations to
[1:14:55] see how we can bring that back to the uh
[1:14:57] back to the top. Uh the second item I
[1:15:00] wanted to give you all a quick update on
[1:15:02] um I think might have been two meetings
[1:15:04] ago. We had some residents come uh from
[1:15:06] the Carolina Overlook area with some
[1:15:07] concerns with regards to uh storm water
[1:15:09] runoff and and retaining walls uh out
[1:15:12] there. Um since then, I just wanted to
[1:15:15] uh give you all an update. Our staff
[1:15:16] have been out there several times. I
[1:15:18] believe several of you have been out
[1:15:19] there meeting with uh various residents
[1:15:21] as well as um we've met with the
[1:15:23] developer multiple times. I've spoken
[1:15:25] with them directly as well. uh PY has
[1:15:27] been uh committed to uh resolving or
[1:15:30] addressing the issues. I know talking to
[1:15:32] our staff. Um part of this has been um
[1:15:35] for a couple of those rain events that
[1:15:36] we had. You know, one of the notes I
[1:15:37] have here was that we did receive 5 in
[1:15:39] of rainfall in a 72-hour period. That is
[1:15:41] a very overwhelming storm, particularly
[1:15:44] when it comes to these uh intermittent
[1:15:45] measures that are designed for erosion
[1:15:47] control while construction project is
[1:15:49] underway. Uh and so uh that has uh
[1:15:52] probably uh added to uh the the the the
[1:15:56] cons the impact or at least exasperated
[1:15:58] it for the time being for the phase of
[1:16:00] construction that we're in. Um you know
[1:16:03] some of the other items there um uh the
[1:16:06] last inch of asphalt has not been placed
[1:16:09] on. That is a typical construction
[1:16:10] technique for us. Uh that goes on
[1:16:12] effectively when most of the home
[1:16:14] building is already complete. That way
[1:16:15] we're not damaging brand new pavement.
[1:16:17] Um the converse of that is when we get
[1:16:19] these large rain events because that
[1:16:21] last inch of rainfall is not there. All
[1:16:23] of the rain that hits the roadway cannot
[1:16:24] make its way into the catch basin. So
[1:16:26] effectively it bypasses and it collects
[1:16:28] and and makes a much larger um mar you
[1:16:32] know larger amount of quantity of water
[1:16:34] that that that collects uh lower down in the drainage area. So u those couple
[1:16:40] things um added to you know the fact
[1:16:42] that the lots had not been built yet.
[1:16:44] So, we've got bare dirt that that that
[1:16:45] allows for more runoff to come off, more
[1:16:48] erosion. Um, all of those items uh
[1:16:51] believe our staff uh have worked with PY
[1:16:53] to get them addressed. Um they they've
[1:16:56] added a lot of check dams. U basically
[1:16:58] uh ways to slow the water down as it's
[1:17:01] coming, so less erosion again and
[1:17:03] hopefully more infiltration as it's
[1:17:04] coming. Um so fence was added along all
[1:17:08] the fronts and rears of the undeveloped
[1:17:10] lots. So again, that should hopefully
[1:17:12] reduce the amount of rain coming uh
[1:17:14] excuse me, drainage uh leaving the
[1:17:16] leaving those sites
[1:17:18] as well as they added some silt bags in
[1:17:20] the roadway catch basins and removed
[1:17:22] some of the hardware cloth that was that
[1:17:24] was diverting water away from the catch
[1:17:25] basins and getting into those systems.
[1:17:27] So um from a erosion control perspective
[1:17:31] um those are I think I've mentioned it
[1:17:33] to you all before but uh just as a
[1:17:34] reminder um the measures that are
[1:17:37] approved with those types of uh uh
[1:17:39] permits um they are performance-based so
[1:17:43] as rain patterns may or may not change
[1:17:44] during a season or construction phases
[1:17:46] change. our staff do do meet routinely
[1:17:49] with developers out in the field to
[1:17:51] require them to either do maintenance of
[1:17:53] or in some cases addition to whatever
[1:17:56] was previously approved uh to to address
[1:17:58] any issues while they're while they're
[1:18:00] working. And so uh I know our staff has
[1:18:02] had several com conversations with them
[1:18:05] and and required some additional
[1:18:06] measures and uh PY has been um willing
[1:18:09] to put all those in and and operate
[1:18:11] excuse me and maintain them uh moving
[1:18:13] forward. Um, with regards to walls, um,
[1:18:17] all of those retaining walls do require
[1:18:19] professional engineers, uh, to not only
[1:18:20] design them, but to also inspect them,
[1:18:22] uh, as well as give us final acceptance.
[1:18:24] Um, they've gone back to their engineers
[1:18:26] to make sure that any of these walls
[1:18:28] that have had that have seen a
[1:18:30] significant amount of runoff that was
[1:18:31] not maybe originally intended just
[1:18:34] because of the phase in this
[1:18:35] construction like I mentioned. Uh, but,
[1:18:37] uh, as of right now, they are continuing
[1:18:39] to to to monitor those and any
[1:18:41] actionable items. Uh the note I've got
[1:18:42] here is that any action items that were
[1:18:44] recommended uh by the licensed engineer
[1:18:46] uh have been or will be completed. So u
[1:18:49] just want to give you an update on that.
[1:18:51] Um you know the the
[1:18:54] this is going to sound bad. The sooner
[1:18:56] they're able to complete their
[1:18:57] construction out there hopefully the the
[1:18:59] less uh uh likelihood there's going to
[1:19:02] be to have any of these events that are
[1:19:03] going to be affecting either the
[1:19:04] retaining walls themselves or any of the
[1:19:06] neighboring lots or or roadways around
[1:19:08] them. So we will continue to monitor it. uh staff will be out there
[1:19:13] uh under major rain events like we are
[1:19:15] typically as already and um certainly
[1:19:19] provide any additional uh updates as
[1:19:22] that comes forward. So um but just
[1:19:25] didn't want to leave that out there and um let you know that we're on it.
[1:19:31] That's it for me tonight.
[1:19:32] >> All right. Thanks, Rich. Town attorney,
[1:19:36] >> town clerk,
[1:19:37] >> no report.
[1:19:38] >> Other staff
[1:19:50] Mr. Mayor, council, uh, wanted to take
[1:19:52] an opportunity to, uh, let you guys know
[1:19:55] about a special event we're having on
[1:19:57] September 14th, uh, in partnership with
[1:19:59] the Clayton Center. It will be a um
[1:20:03] event that begins at 7 pm, runs to 8:30,
[1:20:06] and one of the biggest portions of that
[1:20:08] will be the viewing of a documentary on
[1:20:11] the Robertson Mule building. Um that
[1:20:14] documentary, uh I know none of you guys
[1:20:16] have had a chance to see it yet, but
[1:20:17] we're very excited to be able to
[1:20:18] premiere it that night. It captures the
[1:20:20] building at a very, um unique point in
[1:20:23] its history. It's the end of one era and
[1:20:26] the beginning of another. And um it
[1:20:30] really sells the um potential of what
[1:20:33] that place could be and we're very
[1:20:35] excited to be able to show that to you
[1:20:37] guys and the community. We have the
[1:20:39] Robertson family coming in to view it.
[1:20:41] Uh all those that participated, the
[1:20:43] stakeholder groups, the boards uh will
[1:20:45] be coming in that night. Uh,
[1:20:47] additionally, we'll have Jacob's
[1:20:48] Engineering coming in to give the uh,
[1:20:51] adaptive reuse study presentation so uh,
[1:20:54] the public can kind of see, you know,
[1:20:56] what are the possibilities for the
[1:20:58] building and then we will um, have a few
[1:21:02] giveaways and an opportunity for public
[1:21:04] feedback at the end of the event. But we
[1:21:06] just wanted to have you guys that on
[1:21:08] your calendar. It's September 14th at
[1:21:10] 7:00 p.m. in the Clayton Center.
[1:21:14] We hope to see you.
[1:21:16] Thank you.
[1:21:22] Yep. It's already on our calendar. Thank
[1:21:24] you.
[1:21:26] Uh other business, mayor and council
[1:21:28] comments. Mayor Pro March.
[1:21:31] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um thank you for to
[1:21:33] the Girl Scouts for being here this
[1:21:35] evening. It was really lovely to chat
[1:21:36] with all of you and I really see each of
[1:21:39] you as a future leader in our town. you
[1:21:41] asked fantastic questions and I can tell
[1:21:44] you're thinking about your community and
[1:21:45] your heart is in the right place. So,
[1:21:47] thank you for being here and taking time
[1:21:49] to speak with us as well. Um, and then
[1:21:51] just in general looking out in the room,
[1:21:53] it's so awesome. There's so many
[1:21:54] familiar faces here and so glad for
[1:21:57] everybody that came to speak on
[1:21:58] something or represent an issue that you
[1:22:00] believe in. Good to see you all out
[1:22:02] there from health to parks to roadways.
[1:22:05] And then I wanted to speak and I didn't
[1:22:06] catch your name. I'm sorry. I was not
[1:22:08] writing fast enough. Transportation
[1:22:10] fella. Yes, Mike. Um, and I know I
[1:22:13] believe you came to our last council
[1:22:15] meeting as well and I really appreciated
[1:22:16] your comments about Clayton Boulevard
[1:22:18] and I wanted to throw out there uh that
[1:22:20] we do have that Clayton transportation
[1:22:22] plan and it is available online and that
[1:22:25] was a lengthy process to come up with
[1:22:27] that document. there was a large
[1:22:29] stakeholder and steering committee that
[1:22:32] gave a lot of input to that. And one
[1:22:35] idea that's in there, and I don't know
[1:22:37] the status of it currently, but it
[1:22:39] pertains to what you're talking about at
[1:22:41] Clayton Boulevard that really caught my
[1:22:43] attention at the time, is there's kind
[1:22:45] of two philosophies for dealing with
[1:22:47] that road. And one is, as we all would
[1:22:50] make sense to us logically, add more
[1:22:52] lanes, get more cars through more
[1:22:54] quickly so we're not sitting in the
[1:22:56] road. and the Girl Scouts and I were
[1:22:58] talking about, you know, the the traffic
[1:23:01] and the consequences of the growth and
[1:23:03] how it clogs up the roads and things
[1:23:05] like that. The philosophy that the
[1:23:07] consultant presented to us as part of
[1:23:09] that plan was actually having redundancy
[1:23:12] and it involved fortifications being
[1:23:15] made to old 70 and certain improvements
[1:23:20] on that street. and they actually ran
[1:23:22] the models and they compared adding
[1:23:25] lanes to Clayton Boulevard versus having
[1:23:28] redundancy so you get an alternative.
[1:23:31] Um, and they presented a really in my in
[1:23:34] my opinion compelling case for that
[1:23:36] because you think of for example if if
[1:23:38] all the traffic is concentrated on
[1:23:40] Clayton Boulevard and there's an
[1:23:41] accident there, you potentially shut
[1:23:43] down that entire road. Whereas, if you
[1:23:46] have redundancy, if you have an
[1:23:48] alternative that is fortified, that
[1:23:49] maybe has additional lanes or at least a
[1:23:51] turn lane or right turn lanes or things
[1:23:54] like that, that it's a much more
[1:23:56] efficient idea. And so, I don't really
[1:23:59] know where that stands. And then I
[1:24:01] remember the other obstacle that was
[1:24:03] involved with that was it was maybe a
[1:24:06] little bit more of a forwardthinking
[1:24:08] idea or novel idea than what our DOT
[1:24:11] would generally have accepted or wanted
[1:24:15] to do. I'm trying to say that as
[1:24:17] politely as I possibly can. But um
[1:24:19] anyway, I just would encourage I'm I'm
[1:24:21] really glad you brought it up. it's
[1:24:23] going to motivate me to go back to the
[1:24:24] plan and find those pages and bring it
[1:24:27] here and maybe there's something we can
[1:24:29] do politically or in the broader scope
[1:24:31] to revive that idea or get it
[1:24:33] popularized if you know the people that
[1:24:36] are smarter than I am actually think
[1:24:37] it's a good idea. Thank you for
[1:24:39] listening.
[1:24:40] Um, I just want to add to that because
[1:24:42] you took the words right out of my mouth
[1:24:44] that that old 70 U possibility. It
[1:24:47] sounded like a great idea to your point.
[1:24:49] If there's a wreck and even if there's
[1:24:51] not a wreck, people may choose to take
[1:24:53] that way and it allows more flow on that
[1:24:56] road that that takes flow off of 70. So,
[1:24:58] I thought that was pretty innovative
[1:25:00] idea. And I also enjoyed talking to the
[1:25:03] Girl Scouts. I was very impressed with
[1:25:05] your questions. They were thoughtful
[1:25:07] questions. It's clear you had thought
[1:25:08] about those. It was just not what is it
[1:25:11] like to be a town council person. It was
[1:25:13] about litter. It was about conservation.
[1:25:17] It was about growth. So I I was very
[1:25:20] impressed by your thoughtful questions
[1:25:22] and for sure as uh my colleague said,
[1:25:25] you guys are our future leaders and I'm
[1:25:27] excited to see what you pay attention to
[1:25:29] and um if you watch our meetings on
[1:25:31] YouTube. So thank you uh for coming. And
[1:25:34] I quickly wanted to add um to our town
[1:25:37] manager's statement. I am one of the
[1:25:39] council folks who went out to Carolina
[1:25:41] Overlook after um the video and talked
[1:25:44] to a lot of people and um I appreciate
[1:25:47] them coming out and talking and what I
[1:25:49] talking to me and sharing their
[1:25:50] concerns, but what I also appreciate is
[1:25:53] how fast the town jumped on it and how
[1:25:55] quickly they reached out to Carolina
[1:25:57] Overlook and PY and the response from PY
[1:26:02] has been um rapid and they have
[1:26:05] addressed every concern we've had and
[1:26:07] I've also heard from homeowners out
[1:26:09] there who have said they've seen changes
[1:26:11] and they saw um action out there pretty
[1:26:14] quickly and just know that it's ongoing
[1:26:17] and the conversations I did say to a
[1:26:20] couple of people that called just
[1:26:21] because you're not seeing immediate
[1:26:23] action sometimes doesn't mean that the
[1:26:25] conversations aren't happening because I
[1:26:26] can assure you and based on what our uh
[1:26:29] town manager said the conversations are
[1:26:31] ongoing and there were conversations
[1:26:33] actually today um I know for a fact that
[1:26:36] happened. So continue to let us know and
[1:26:39] we love your feedback and just know that
[1:26:41] it is going directly to the source and
[1:26:43] the and and PY and the town and our
[1:26:45] staff are reacting. So thank you for
[1:26:47] that.
[1:26:50] >> Awesome Mr. Case.
[1:26:52] >> Thank you. Um I wanted to add to Miss
[1:26:55] Archer and uh Miss uh Anderson. Thank
[1:26:58] you. Um, not lost for words tonight, but
[1:27:01] Mike, you know, you brought up some good
[1:27:03] points about um, you know, the the
[1:27:06] Clayton Boulevard. Uh, Miss Archer and I
[1:27:08] were um on the steer the liaison on the
[1:27:10] steering committee for the uh,
[1:27:12] comprehensive transportation plan. And,
[1:27:14] you know, I'm not as eloquent, but if
[1:27:17] the DOT had it their way, they'd
[1:27:18] probably make it a sixlane road. And
[1:27:20] what we don't want is, you know, this
[1:27:23] Clayton Boulevard to be a thorough fair
[1:27:26] for everybody that's wanting to go from
[1:27:28] point A to point B. Uh, and if I
[1:27:30] remember correctly, when we did that,
[1:27:32] uh, CTP, uh, our vision was it to be,
[1:27:35] you know, a [clears throat] a road
[1:27:37] that's more kind of integrated into the
[1:27:39] town and all these ancillary roads, you
[1:27:41] know, the bypass and some of this other
[1:27:43] stuff. The people that are trying to go
[1:27:44] through Clayton, they take those
[1:27:46] alternate routes. So, you know, we don't
[1:27:48] want, you know, Clayton Boulevard to be
[1:27:50] a a sixlane road. We want it to be a uh
[1:27:53] a place where people are intentionally
[1:27:55] driving to go somewhere, hopefully going
[1:27:57] somewhere in Clayton and not going to
[1:27:59] Smithfield or Wilson Mills or somewhere
[1:28:01] else like that. But I appreciate your
[1:28:03] feedback and um to Miss Archer's point,
[1:28:05] I mean that that's a very extensive and
[1:28:07] that CTP was done about 2 years ago. Um
[1:28:10] and a lot of smart people way smarter
[1:28:12] than me were in the room and had a lot
[1:28:13] of good ideas and um you know it is an
[1:28:16] evolving process and we may need your
[1:28:17] help some when you know that six lane
[1:28:20] road or whatever eight lane road they
[1:28:21] try to put there at some point in time
[1:28:24] um maybe tries to happen. But anyway
[1:28:26] want to thank you for that. Other two
[1:28:28] other comments um obviously um for the
[1:28:31] people that go to public schools uh
[1:28:33] schools start back on Monday. So, I know
[1:28:36] uh former council member did this, but
[1:28:37] if we could just I know our public
[1:28:39] safety and our staff is on on point and
[1:28:42] prepared, but if we could just maybe
[1:28:43] drive around the the uh schools in town
[1:28:46] and just to make sure you there's
[1:28:48] nothing that's blaring or obvious or any safety issues or concerns with what
[1:28:53] our responsibility is or if there's
[1:28:54] something maybe that's been overlooked
[1:28:56] by the county, we could reach out to
[1:28:57] them or the school system. So, anyway,
[1:29:00] excited about that. I'll um I don't know
[1:29:02] if my daughter is, but um school is
[1:29:05] starting whether we like it or they like
[1:29:07] it or not next week. Um last thing is
[1:29:10] and I didn't get the chance to do this
[1:29:11] cuz I was really looking to roast Robert
[1:29:13] uh during his retirement. And Robert, I
[1:29:15] must say you have made finance
[1:29:19] not very exciting and very boring ever
[1:29:22] since I've been here. And anytime I see
[1:29:24] you coming up to talk about something, I
[1:29:26] always make sure I need to get a cup of
[1:29:28] coffee. But you know what? You do a damn
[1:29:30] good job at it and I would not be able
[1:29:33] to do what you do and you know you're a
[1:29:36] great person. You tell great stories and
[1:29:38] you're just all around a good guy. Enjoy
[1:29:40] your retirement. Have fun. Don't think
[1:29:43] about us. If we call you, please answer
[1:29:45] though cuz we're probably going to have
[1:29:46] a question or we're going to need some
[1:29:48] help. But have a great retirement, man.
[1:29:50] And congratulations. Really really
[1:29:53] I appreciate that very much.
[1:29:54] >> Yeah. Thank you.
[1:29:55] >> Very kind.
[1:29:56] >> Okay. I just like to say a few words
[1:29:59] myself. I want to thank all of those
[1:30:01] that came out and gave your public
[1:30:02] comments. I really appreciate you taking
[1:30:04] the time out and you have been heard.
[1:30:06] That's that's one of my favorite
[1:30:07] sayings, but we do appreciate those are
[1:30:10] guests that observing tonight. We thank
[1:30:12] you for coming as well. I do want to
[1:30:14] give a shout out to the Girl Scouts. I
[1:30:16] didn't get a chance to come talk to you
[1:30:17] personally, but woman power. So stand
[1:30:19] tall, seek your dreams, and you can get
[1:30:22] there. Whatever you desire, you can do that. And I too would like to
[1:30:26] say a few words to Mr. Robert.
[1:30:30] I want to say that you leave behind a
[1:30:31] legacy of hard work and your care. Mr.
[1:30:34] Robert, I'm talking to you. Is he there?
[1:30:37] Talking to you. But I want to thank you
[1:30:39] and I have observed your work abilities
[1:30:41] and the things you have done for the
[1:30:43] town of Clayton. I appreciate that. So I
[1:30:45] want to say to you, I wish you joy,
[1:30:48] health, and peace in your years to come
[1:30:51] and cheers to you for your next chapter.
[1:30:54] We appreciate all that you do. Thank
[1:30:56] you.
[1:30:57] >> Thank you. Very appreciate.
[1:30:59] >> And I forgot to thank Robert, so I'm
[1:31:01] going to do that now. Um I had it all
[1:31:03] written down what I was going to say. Um
[1:31:05] I wanted to thank you for your attention
[1:31:07] to detail and as the mayor said, your
[1:31:10] always transparent response to anything
[1:31:13] we ask you. you've left us in goodstead
[1:31:16] with your records and your um
[1:31:19] accountability piece and and I as a town
[1:31:22] council person appreciate that and it's
[1:31:24] going to serve the person who comes in
[1:31:26] to try to fill your shoes well. Thank
[1:31:29] you for everything you've done.
[1:31:30] >> Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.
[1:31:34] You did.
[1:31:35] >> Okay. Um so this is what happens as
[1:31:40] mayor when you allow your council
[1:31:42] members to speak first. because I just
[1:31:45] have to say I just want to reiterate
[1:31:48] what my council members have said. We're
[1:31:50] so excited to have all of you here
[1:31:52] tonight and thank you for what you do
[1:31:55] for our community. Uh the one thing that
[1:31:57] hasn't been said or acknowledged and I
[1:31:59] wasn't privy to conversations with these
[1:32:01] two and with you all. But I want you to
[1:32:03] get this. Uh the first time in Clayton's
[1:32:06] history, the very first time in
[1:32:08] Clayton's history that this governing
[1:32:11] board is women. The majority are women.
[1:32:14] It has and you can and and when we
[1:32:17] break, you can look at all these
[1:32:18] pictures up here on the right. You're
[1:32:19] going to see there's a bunch of men and
[1:32:21] one or two women. Most of those women
[1:32:23] were always staff. Uh at some point, one
[1:32:26] woman may have been elected to a council
[1:32:28] member with a bunch of men. But this is
[1:32:30] the first time in Clayton's history that
[1:32:32] women on the town that women are the
[1:32:34] majority on the town council. And it
[1:32:36] doesn't mean that the Porter doesn't do
[1:32:37] a great job because he and I both do.
[1:32:39] But I'm just saying I think that really
[1:32:41] speaks volumes to women in leadership,
[1:32:43] right? So, thank you all for being here
[1:32:45] tonight. Uh, I want to send out a
[1:32:48] congratulations to Joe Stallings cuz Joe
[1:32:51] is going to be our new deputy town
[1:32:53] manager. He's our former uh, director of
[1:32:56] economic development and I am sad to see
[1:32:58] him leave that position. Uh, but he will
[1:33:01] be extremely well suited for this new
[1:33:03] job and congratulations to you. to make
[1:33:07] a correction. He's not going to be He is
[1:33:10] >> He's not going to be what?
[1:33:11] >> Our our new deputy town manager. He is
[1:33:13] our new deputy.
[1:33:14] >> I was I was thinking I was referring to
[1:33:17] he wasn't going to be in economic
[1:33:18] development anymore, but uh I I think he
[1:33:21] can cook two pots on the same stove, so
[1:33:24] I'm not worried at all. No pressure.
[1:33:28] Um, and I also want to uh express uh on
[1:33:34] behalf of the town of Clayton our
[1:33:35] deepest sympathies to the town of Wilson
[1:33:37] Mills who lost Mayor Fleeter Bird uh on
[1:33:40] Saturday. And Mayor Bird was an
[1:33:43] exceptional leader. She was a kind and
[1:33:45] gentle spirit. I never heard her raise
[1:33:48] her voice. Always listened to her make
[1:33:51] her point. Cool, calm, and collected.
[1:33:54] and the world is a better place because
[1:33:57] of her. The town of Wilson Mills um was
[1:34:00] a great loss for them and I want to
[1:34:03] acknowledge that during our meeting that
[1:34:05] uh how much the town of Clayton
[1:34:07] appreciates the relationship that we
[1:34:09] have with the little old town of Wilson
[1:34:11] Mills and while they may be a small town
[1:34:13] they are really filled with good
[1:34:15] everyday people. So, our sincerest
[1:34:18] sympathies to Lita and her family and to
[1:34:22] the town of Wheels and Mills. All right.
[1:34:26] And that's all that I have. So, uh, with
[1:34:29] that, I would like to I will entertain a
[1:34:32] motion to go into close session, uh, to
[1:34:34] discuss a legal matter and to discuss
[1:34:36] the purchase of real property.
[1:34:38] >> Mayor, Mayor, could we add to that a
[1:34:40] personnel matter under section A6? and a
[1:34:43] personnel matter under section A6.
[1:34:46] >> Motion.
[1:34:49] >> We have a motion and a second to go into
[1:34:51] close session. Any further discussion?
[1:34:53] All in favor say I.
[1:34:54] >> I.
[1:34:55] >> Opposed? Motion carries. Please clear
[1:34:57] the room. Thank you.
[3:11:31] There anything else to come before this
[3:11:33] council? Hearing nothing, I'll entertain
[3:11:35] a motion to adjurnn.
[3:11:36] >> Motion.
[3:11:37] >> Second.
[3:11:38] >> All in favor say I.
[3:11:40] >> I.
[3:11:40] >> Motion carries. Good night. Thank you.