[0:05] It's joining the flesh leeches. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[0:10] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

[0:15] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[0:21] » Good morning, everyone.

[0:27] We'll start in on the agenda and it's to approve the minutes of Monday, June

[0:32] 15th, 2026.

[0:37] Second. The motion is moved, Barker seconded.

[0:42] All in favor, any discussion? Second. All in favor, say aye.

[0:46] » Aye. >> Any opposed? Passes 5-0.

[0:52] » I'll give that a second and reconsider that after.

[0:55] » We have some miscellaneous motions. Uh Looks like the first one we have to

[1:03] essentially change uh resolution number

[1:08] » Yeah. >> from from last week.

[1:11] » Yeah. >> Looks like it should have been

[1:14] resolution 2026-979

[1:17] instead of 978. So, I will move to rescind paragraph seven

[1:26] in the June 15, 2026 minutes. And the paragraph reads,

[1:32] "Peterson moved to approve resolution number 2026-978,

[1:38] a resolution of Coffey County, Kansas establishing a reinvestment housing

[1:43] incentive district within the county, adopting a plan for the development of

[1:48] housing and public facilities in such district, approving a development

[1:53] agreement and making certain findings in conjunction therewith.

[1:57] 75 reinvestment housing incentive district and Aboudrar seconded motion

[2:03] passed. So, I move to rescind. >> I'll second that.

[2:09] » Thompson second. Any discussion?

[2:12] All in favor say I. >> I.

[2:15] » [clears throat] >> Anybody opposed? That passes 5-0.

[2:19] And now to get the correct resolution [clears throat]

[2:22] number, I will move

[2:25] to approve resolution number 2026-979,

[2:30] a resolution of Coffey County, Kansas, establishing a reinvestment housing

[2:34] incentive district within the county, adopting a plan for the development of

[2:38] housing and public facilities in such district, approving a development

[2:43] agreement, and making certain findings in conjunction therewith.

[2:48] 75 investment housing incentive district.

[2:52] » I'll second. >> Okay, so I moved.

[2:55] » Okay. >> McCurry seconded.

[2:58] Any discussion? All in favor say I.

[3:01] » I. >> Anybody opposed?

[3:03] That passes [clears throat] 5-0. We'll get that corrected.

[3:08] We have a payroll notice. I would entertain a motion to authorize

[3:14] and direct the chairman to sign the Coffey County payroll notice for Kayla

[3:18] Rhodes, emergency management deputy

[3:21] director/radiological officer, step change,

[3:26] completion of IPP, wage classification from 60-3 to 60-4,

[3:34] wage from $31.14 to $31.94,

[3:39] effective June 1, 2026.

[3:47] » I'll make the motion.

[3:50] » I'll second it.

[3:53] Okay, McCreary moved, I will draw second it.

[3:57] Any discussion?

[4:00] All in favor say I. >> I.

[4:02] » Anybody opposed? Passes 5-0.

[4:08] » [clears throat] >> We have another payroll notice.

[4:13] I would entertain a motion to authorize and direct the chairman to sign the

[4:16] Coffee County [clears throat] payroll notice for Todd Hendricks.

[4:20] Coffee County Lake Lake Patrol new hire wage classification 10-1

[4:27] wage $16.21 effective June 23rd, 2026.

[4:35] » I'll move. >> I'll second.

[4:38] » Thompson moved, McCreary seconded. Any discussion?

[4:43] All in favor say I. >> I.

[4:45] » Anybody opposed? Passes 5-0. Yes.

[4:51] Completes the miscellaneous motions. It's 9:05 and

[4:55] ready for our first agenda item, Tourism and Visitors Board.

[5:01] 2027 budget request. >> All right. Good morning.

[5:04] » Good morning. >> Jenny.

[5:06] » So, uh just to give you guys a little bit of uh updates what we've been doing

[5:10] with the uh Coffee County Tourism and Visitors Board.

[5:14] Um our board since I came on last year has

[5:18] been uh fairly active. We've been meeting just about quarterly um as per

[5:23] their request um to discuss uh

[5:28] you know, uses for the transient guest tax fund and other

[5:31] um things where the Tourism Board might be uh helpful with our county.

[5:36] Um I'll just kind of give you an update on

[5:38] the transient guest tax fund. Uh

[5:42] since January 1st, 2026, we've had a income from state from the transient

[5:49] guest tax fund for of $11,161.

[5:54] Um and this year the

[5:57] uh tourism and visitors board has approved um funds outgoing of about

[6:02] $6,264.

[6:05] That leaves us a total in that fund of $52,567.

[6:11] So, we have had a little bit of outgoing this year. Um most of that has been um

[6:16] the board has approved um some funds for

[6:21] um some events that they felt would be bringing in people from outside of the

[6:25] county. So, we do have a form now if somebody wants to request some of those

[6:29] funds, um they fill that out and then I send that out to the board for approval

[6:33] or denial or sometimes they have questions from whoever's asking for the

[6:37] funds. So, we go through that process. Um

[6:41] but I think it's I think it's been going pretty well.

[6:44] Um We did meet

[6:47] last month. I'm trying to No, the

[6:51] beginning of this month. >> Just a couple weeks.

[6:53] » Yes, okay. We met on June 3rd. >> [laughter]

[6:55] » My months are just going pretty fast. Um to discuss

[7:01] kind of recommendations for expenditures for 2027.

[7:05] Um pretty similar to what they suggested for uh this last year. Um We've got a a

[7:13] letter. I'm not sure if you want me to read the letter. I think you

[7:16] guys might have gotten copies of the proposed letter.

[7:20] Um it's just one of these, but um they submitted uh recommendations for

[7:26] expenditures of the transient guest tax revenues for the calendar year 2027.

[7:31] These recommendations were discussed and approved by the board during their

[7:34] regular meeting held on June 3rd, 2026. Um based on their assessments of

[7:41] priorities, that tourism and visitors board recommend. The train they

[7:45] discussed tax revenues be allocated towards the following key areas,

[7:50] local and regional tourism and marketing promotions.

[7:54] They believe investing in targeted marketing campaigns across various

[7:58] platforms to promote Coffee County as a desirable destination including efforts

[8:03] to erase awareness of attractions, events, and unique characteristics among

[8:08] potential visitors within Kansas and our surrounding states.

[8:12] They also want to see continued support of community events

[8:16] by providing support which could include financial assistance, promotional

[8:20] resources, or logistical aid to [clears throat] community events that

[8:24] are specifically designed to attract or have a proven track record of attracting

[8:30] significant visitor attendance from outside of Coffee County.

[8:34] And then also just kind of another bucket of other activities with a direct

[8:38] positive impact on tourism could be funding projects or initiatives

[8:42] that directly contribute to improving the visitor experience and increasing

[8:47] visitation to Coffee County. This could include but not limited to

[8:52] supporting visitor information services, enhancing tourism related signage or

[8:57] infrastructure, providing funding or community members to attend tourism

[9:02] related training. We did have one of our tourism board we

[9:07] helped pay for her to go to the state tourism conference this last year. So,

[9:11] things like that if we can help get people to some of those

[9:14] trainings I think would be good. And other efforts clearly aimed at fostering

[9:19] tourism growth. Um

[9:22] So, that's kind of our recommendation. I think last year you

[9:26] guys just voted to approve that recommendation.

[9:31] There wasn't kind of a specific dollar ask with that.

[9:38] Didn't know if there was any questions or anything with the tourism board.

[9:46] » I have no questions. >> Okay. [laughter]

[9:50] » It's been doing a lot. >> Yeah, I think

[9:53] » It's moving forward doing a lot more seems like more active than it ever has

[9:56] been. >> I would agree.

[9:58] » That's good. We've got a good group and I think it

[10:01] does sometimes those just small amounts to help pay for some advertising or for

[10:06] an event or um I think one of them we helped pay for

[10:10] like the insurance cost like event insurance or something like that. Um

[10:15] seems to have a pretty good impact on those events where we know people are

[10:19] putting in a lot of hard work to organize them, so.

[10:23] Um the other thing I had and um

[10:28] it doesn't have to be approved today, but I wanted to bring this to you guys.

[10:30] Something else that's come up in several of our meetings with our uh tourism and

[10:35] visitors board, we've talked about the transient guest tax rate for Coffee

[10:39] County. Um currently the the transient guest tax rate um we get to decide this

[10:46] a county can decide it or even cities within a county can can decide what they

[10:51] want their rate to be. Um currently Coffee County's is at 3% which uh has

[10:57] been effective since April 1st, 1998 um that's I believe when that was

[11:03] last updated. Um

[11:07] in looking at comparisons, you can print out kind of the transient guest tax

[11:11] rates for the state. Um looking at some of our surrounding

[11:15] counties, I know Franklin County's there's is at 6%, Osage County's at 6%,

[11:22] uh Woodson County's at 6%. A lot of our surrounding counties are either at five

[11:26] or six. There's a few that are at two or three which are where ours are at, but

[11:31] some of the more active were definitely around six.

[11:35] Um and then also for like some cities that are kind of in our area, Shinnston

[11:39] sits at 6% and Cory is all the way up at 8%. I know they have a lot of hotels

[11:44] there. Um Garnett sits at 6%, Iola sits at 6%,

[11:49] um what the the tourism board is

[11:51] recommending that Coffee County increase the transient guest tax from 3% to 5%.

[11:58] Um I know we're not taking in a a ton of

[12:03] revenue from um the transient guest tax. Like I said,

[12:07] we're looking at Oh, what did I expect?

[12:11] Um somewhere [clears throat] around four to

[12:15] six thousand dollars a quarter. Um but again, we have been turning around and

[12:19] trying to use those funds to promote people coming here that would have a

[12:23] direct positive impact on our um motels that we have, our Airbnb's. So, trying

[12:28] to get more people to come here um

[12:31] to increase those stays. So, that was their recommendation. I did um

[12:37] send Angie a resolution draft. Um

[12:40] if you guys want to take that into consideration or think it over and maybe

[12:44] we could discuss it again next week. Um if that's something

[12:48] you guys would like to

[12:52] discuss. Um the other thing in the resolution I

[12:56] did put, and this was after going back through our previous resolutions for the

[13:02] tourism and visitors board, um is a suggested change to

[13:07] the um appointments.

[13:10] So, what I was looking at, our previous um

[13:15] resolution that has required positions. So, currently we've got um county

[13:20] commissioner on the board, myself, chamber of commerce director, and two uh

[13:25] just community members. Technically, in the bylaws, it says the

[13:30] required positions are a representative of the Board of County Commissioners or

[13:36] Coffee County Economic Development Department, one position. A

[13:40] representative of the Coffee County Chamber of Commerce,

[13:44] a representative of the hotel and motel industry, which must be reside in Coffee

[13:49] County, and then um two optional at-large positions that

[13:55] are community members. Um

[13:58] So, technically, according to our bylaws,

[14:01] we're not we don't have a direct representative of the hotel or motel

[14:06] industry, and we've got myself and a commissioner on there.

[14:10] My suggestion to change the language of the bylaws

[14:14] just a little bit would be um Tourism and Visitors Board Composition.

[14:20] Um still have no more than five voting members.

[14:25] We would have a representative of the Board of County Commissioners,

[14:29] a representative of the Chamber of Commerce,

[14:32] a representative of the hotel or motel industry, and then two optional at-large

[14:37] positions. The change would be to add an ex-officio

[14:42] non-voting member. So, Coffee County Economic Development would serve as

[14:46] ex-officio non-voting member of the board, would serve as the liaison

[14:51] between the board, the county, and the community. Um she'll be responsible

[14:54] [clears throat] for facilitation of meetings and administrative

[14:57] coordination, which is what I do anyway. I typically, you know, I take in the

[15:02] funding requests, I organize the meetings.

[15:05] Um But, I think this way we can still keep

[15:09] the representation on the board. Um

[15:13] » So, you'd be changed from a voting to a non-voting

[15:15] » Yes. >> position.

[15:16] » So, basically, I would feel comfortable with that since

[15:19] I'm organizing everything anyway. A lot of times I'm the person between

[15:23] whoever's asking for funding and the board.

[15:26] Um That would just be my suggestion.

[15:30] Um if we change that, I could still stay on as admin, but

[15:35] we wouldn't be losing representation representation from the county, and we

[15:40] could look at adding somebody from you know, [clears throat] hotel, motel,

[15:43] or Airbnb, which I think would be a good fit.

[15:46] » And right now you don't have that position filled up for the for the

[15:49] hotel. >> There's nobody in that position. We have

[15:51] five people. Um

[15:54] But we have myself and a commissioner, two community members, and chamber.

[15:59] » How many are you looking to just one or two?

[16:02] » So, we would still keep five members on the board, but we would need to add

[16:06] someone from the hotel or motel industry, which our bylaws say we're

[16:10] supposed to have anyway, and just move myself to ex officio.

[16:14] » Okay. So, would there be anybody that fit fit that

[16:19] with looking at the the county? >> I think we could find somebody.

[16:23] Um Sherry and I have already kind of had

[16:25] that conversation. I haven't reached out to them yet, cuz I wanted to see what

[16:28] you guys have thought about this word, but I think there's several

[16:31] people who might be interested. >> That'd be good to have somebody

[16:34] represent their side of it too. >> So, I figured since we're we're talking

[16:39] about the resolution for the guest tax rate, we could just throw that

[16:43] in there as well. So,

[16:46] um my recommendation would be to

[16:49] have you guys uh Angie can get that in your packets for next week. Um give you

[16:54] guys some time to think about that, and then um we can discuss and

[16:58] approve if you guys so choose. Does that sound good?

[17:03] » [clears throat] >> Casper, could you

[17:05] uh between now and then could you reach out to somebody to see if if

[17:08] » Yeah. If there's some interest?

[17:10] » Yeah. >> Yeah. I'd be happy to do that.

[17:12] Cool. Um that is all I have for tourism and

[17:17] visitor board.

[17:19] Thank you guys. >> Sounds good.

[17:21] » Thank you. Thank you. >> All right.

[17:26] » Okay. >> All right.

[17:27] » It's not quite 9:20 or do you have everybody here, Christy? You're

[17:31] » Yes, this is Kelsey Knight today. >> Okay, so we have conservation district

[17:36] 2027 budget request. [clears throat]

[17:39] » And the budgets are in your notebooks. >> Budgets are in the books.

[17:43] » Yes, I apologize. I didn't put them in here.

[17:47] Um For those who don't know me, I'm Christy

[17:50] Vote. I work for the Coffee County Conservation District. Um and also with

[17:55] us is Kelsey Porter. She is the district conservationist for NRCS. That's um

[18:02] in uh

[18:05] USDA service centers here in the county. The conservation district is a public

[18:11] entity. Um we get our funding from the county commissioners as well as the

[18:16] state of Kansas. Um but we are also a partner um with the NRCS or Natural

[18:23] Resource Conservation Service that's housed in USDA. Um

[18:29] Oh, sorry. I'm on page >> Page 56.

[18:31] » Yes, okay. Well, there's two.

[18:33] » For 10. >> Yeah, there are there are two budgets.

[18:35] » One's for general fund and one's for

[18:40] the conservation district. >> What are the entries we're looking at?

[18:42] » Uh you're looking at >> 34 and

[18:45] 56. >> Yeah, 34.

[18:47] » So 34.

[18:50] Sorry. >> Thank you. No, you're good.

[18:55] And through our partnership, we provide um technical or we excuse me, we provide

[19:00] clerical assistance as well as educational outreach opportunities and

[19:04] then um NRCS's side, they offer us the technical assistance to to our

[19:10] cost-share programs. And um they work with us in a whole host of other

[19:15] different ways. Um if you look back at our

[19:20] office in the last 10 years, we had seven employees in our office. And as

[19:25] budget cuts have come along, um we are currently in

[19:31] down to just Kelsey and I in the office. So, if there's farmers and producers

[19:35] needing technical assistance, um

[19:39] it's us. Um we do have assistance coming from

[19:43] Greenwood and um Wilson County, but we just learned that

[19:48] the technician in Wilson County is retiring in July. So, we are just down

[19:53] to one person that is able to to offer that to us.

[19:57] Um I'm coming The reason for such a large increase, we typically stay at a

[20:02] 3% increase, is because we are seeking assistance to

[20:06] hire at least somebody part-time. Um we feel this is important um

[20:12] to get somebody trained >> fill that position.

[20:15] » to help fill that position that is um is lacking. Um

[20:19] we're hoping the hiring freeze is going to lift. Um we can get um we've had a

[20:25] candidate here in Coffee County County that would be ready to step in um and

[20:30] apply for that federal position, but we just need a little help just trying to

[20:35] get us that direction.

[20:38] Um just to kind of give you some dollars um on the federal side, we're

[20:42] technically um looking at like 30 projects rolling in for about 338,000.

[20:48] That's just this year. Um CRP annually we're running at 628,000

[20:55] is what they're getting this year. Um and that's over 10,000 acres of CRP in

[21:00] the county. Um state cost share, we get over $30,000

[21:05] from the state that we administer the um

[21:09] a little over 30 here in Coffee County that the commissioners allocate for us

[21:13] to to use for our land owners. We mirror those cost share projects or

[21:18] cost share programs the same as the state, so there's no confusion or

[21:22] overlap with our um producers.

[21:26] Um but when you look at it, um

[21:30] the numbers come down to we have

[21:34] Coffee County will impact CRP here is fifth in the state of Georgia with the

[21:37] number of contracts. So, we have

[21:42] over what? We're looking at

[21:46] Sorry, I lost my my spot. Um the

[21:51] contract that we have, we have um it takes the amount of hours to do one

[21:57] contract that's a half an acre versus somebody that has a contract of 200

[22:01] acres. So, going out this year, we're looking at 120 field reviews to do, plus

[22:08] um another 60 contracts or more that have been re-enrolled or um signed up

[22:14] uh for for a new uh contract. So, numbers are

[22:19] there, manpower is not, and that's where we're coming just to seek some

[22:22] assistance. And we get the the approval to have an opening in our county, we'll

[22:27] reduce that, but we're just needing some assistance to get us by in this pinch.

[22:33] So, I just thought it was important to come up. Usually, we just go with a 3%

[22:38] um increase in our budget, but we felt that

[22:41] it was needed this year. Do you guys have any questions, concerns

[22:49] that we need to have to address?

[22:52] » [clears throat] >> You say needed this year, you're talking

[22:55] about next budget year? >> Yes, in Yeah, yeah, it for 2027. We have

[23:00] enough that we're we're able to make it, but we're definitely for 2027, that's

[23:06] where we're needing some assistance. And hopefully we're able to make that hump

[23:11] um in the the next year not to come back

[23:15] and ask for that much more. So.

[23:21] I just felt it was important and I I know you guys have a lot to do and um we

[23:26] just wanted to come up and share with you

[23:29] our justifications for that. >> Exactly.

[23:33] » So, but thank you guys for your time. And and again, I'm not trying to rush

[23:37] you. If you have any questions or concerns

[23:40] um or anything you'd like to see us do differently,

[23:43] let us know. Um always happy to have conversations.

[23:49] » Sounds like your personnel has been cut drastically over the last 20 years.

[23:52] » Yeah, it has. I mean, we look around to the dark office. [laughter]

[23:58] » Work hard to get all the federal money >> that you can.

[24:01] » That we we're trying. Um and you know, and

[24:06] as producers, you guys know that I mean the restraints that are there. I mean

[24:11] » Yeah. >> they're getting tighter and tighter, but

[24:14] we're trying to make do the best we can. >> You guys are doing a good job.

[24:18] » Well, we appreciate your time. And if you have any questions, you know where

[24:22] to find us. >> Yes.

[24:23] » All right. Thanks, guys. >> Nice to see you too.

[24:31] » How are you?

[24:46] » [snorts]

[24:48] » What are you saying we're going to do? >> We have to wait.

[24:51] » Till 9:35.

[24:55] Oh. Well, it's uh

[24:58] It's not 9:40, Jody, but uh we have to wait till 9:35 before we do

[25:04] our bid opening. That's 10 minutes, so we could probably go ahead and take you,

[25:09] interview you right now. That would work, okay?

[25:12] » Interview me now? >> Yeah. Okay.

[25:15] » Sure, I can talk to you. >> How are you, Jody?

[25:18] » I'm good. How are you, Steve? >> Good. So, you're back to kind of have a

[25:22] vacant hospital board position that uh expires [clears throat]

[25:27] the end of the year, right? So, this is for

[25:30] 6 months. Anyway.

[25:33] » Anyway. >> You want to You want to tell us a little

[25:35] bit about yourself again? >> I can. So, I'm Jody Thomas and I'm from

[25:40] Waverly. Um

[25:43] I have um over 40 years in health care

[25:48] background. I worked at Coffee County Hospital for 18 years

[25:53] and then I left hospital. I worked for a health care software company in Kansas

[25:58] City that I worked with over 50 different

[26:01] hospitals throughout the United States and the Cayman Islands. I got to go

[26:06] there, too. Um

[26:09] and I

[26:13] Health care is hard, but I enjoy health care. I always have and

[26:19] I feel like I like to put what I have into what I know and how I can help,

[26:25] too. Um so, in 2022,

[26:29] I retired, so it's a nice to just still have that

[26:34] piece of health care and I had two kids born at Coffee County. We've been here

[26:38] for over 40 years, so I just feel like I have a stake in the game, too and I'd

[26:43] like to bring more to it.

[26:49] » So, I guess you semi-answered it, but why do you want to

[26:54] serve on the hospital board? >> Well, I served on for 9 years.

[26:59] Um My term ended in December of this year,

[27:03] and I

[27:07] It helps me be a part of health care to still understand what the struggles and

[27:12] trials and tributes are of health care. Um

[27:16] I feel like I I know a lot of the people that still work at the hospital, and I

[27:22] just I just feel like with my knowledge and stuff, I I still

[27:26] can bring something to health care, to our

[27:29] hospital. >> Do you know what challenges the hospital

[27:34] board faces? >> I understand being a lot about like the

[27:40] finances and stuff that's going on and what's going on up in Topeka and, you

[27:45] know, up at up federally and stuff. Those Those are the

[27:50] biggest challenges is to know where you need to go to help dig. But, you know,

[27:55] our leadership that we have at the hospital today are

[27:58] so good to help keep the

[28:02] board apprised on what's what's going on in our world.

[28:10] » Can you commit to regularly attending meetings, reviewing materials

[28:14] beforehand, and participating actively? >> Absolutely.

[28:20] » Um

[28:27] So, with the board as a board member, um you have to make decisions that uh not

[28:32] everyone agrees with. Um how do you approach difficult or

[28:37] unpopular decisions? >> Right. Yeah. You have to agree to

[28:41] disagree as a board member. It's just like any of you guys that, you know, You

[28:45] to agree to disagree and and state your case and um bring forward what your your

[28:50] beliefs and and thoughts are. And listen to what others have to

[28:57] » How about transparency? What what does that mean to you in in public service?

[29:03] » I think over the over the past few years the

[29:07] hospital has and and the board have been very transparent within the community

[29:13] bringing information to you guys to open up information. The only way you can

[29:17] understand is if you understand all that that transparency is

[29:21] down and you can understand more about what's going on.

[29:27] » What about conflicts of interest? Do you have any conflicts of interest serving

[29:32] on the hospital board? >> I do not.

[29:39] » So, any other questions? >> I believe so. You could cover everything

[29:43] pretty well. >> Do you think there are any other

[29:45] questions we should ask you that we haven't?

[29:50] » I don't think so. >> [laughter]

[29:51] » I think you did pretty good job covering everything.

[29:55] » One of the biggest complaints I hear the community about the hospital

[30:01] is the billing department. I

[30:05] that's always the first topic of conversation when the hospital gets

[30:10] brought up. Um

[30:13] people go to get their services, take them 6-7 months to get their first

[30:18] bill. First time they get their bill, it says you're going to lawsuit.

[30:23] What do you think the hospital can do to fix the billing department?

[30:28] » Well, I >> It's been an issue for a long time ever

[30:31] since it was outsourced. >> Yeah, a long time.

[30:35] Um this has been something that's been for years and years. I know that.

[30:39] I feel like with

[30:42] a lot of it kind of depends on your software, your electronic health record,

[30:48] how that all comes to play. So, when you get a bill out the door, it all

[30:53] starts when you register at the front desk. So, going through the

[30:58] process, if you don't have the if you've got fingered just one character in the

[31:03] social security number or your insurance number, that can throw

[31:08] everything off and do like things because you've got somebody back here at

[31:12] the end that's got to scrub that stuff. So,

[31:15] part of that is is problematic and if you don't have the most up-to-date

[31:20] software to help bring that those bills through,

[31:24] that makes a difference, too. And I do know that there was a problem

[31:28] um at one point with

[31:32] um I was getting a call after a month after

[31:35] I gotten a had my appointment and that was that was

[31:40] way too soon. I wasn't delinquent. It's just that was a delay in the process and

[31:45] I think those things are getting better. Um

[31:49] » So, a lot of times these little

[31:53] late billing getting calls after the bill's paid

[31:57] this has got to the point where it's run some of the customer base from the

[32:00] hospital off. They've they've moved elsewhere. They've

[32:04] gone to other doctors. How do you get that customer base back to support the

[32:08] hospital? >> Well, I think we just do it through

[32:11] transparency and helping people understand. I know there's been meetings

[32:14] in the past to help understand even through the community how that kind of

[32:18] the billing goes and stuff like that. So, I think we just have to keep

[32:22] keep moving forward with that.

[32:24] » I think you've got a wonderful facility there. You've got some people up there

[32:28] that are just fine employees. You've got a good

[32:32] facility. It's It There's always that anchor of

[32:35] that billing department at the that that causes the rift with

[32:39] » [clears throat and cough] >> Yeah.

[32:40] » But I'm not But I'm not so sure that that's not a

[32:43] problem with all hospitals to a certain extent, Mike.

[32:46] » Well, I mean, I I know all of them. >> No, no, no. I Talk to me about this one.

[32:49] » No, no, no. I know that What I'm saying is that

[32:52] my experience in the last 2 or 3 years was

[32:57] I I'll just use St. Luke's for instance. That billing may not come out for 5 or 6

[33:01] months and then all of a sudden And that's just from my my experience.

[33:06] » Okay. Uh

[33:07] I think some of this is with a 25-bed hospital there could be more of a

[33:11] personal touch to it instead of just all computer programs and random numbers and

[33:16] things like that. >> can call the person.

[33:18] » They They might still I understand that sitting in a meeting and I I still think

[33:22] there needs to be a personal touch to other than billing sent out the door

[33:26] just from a computer. >> Yeah.

[33:28] » And you said with transposing a social security number, those things need to be

[33:33] looked at. Just

[33:34] » I mean, I I agree. And there's just it just happens. You

[33:38] know, it doesn't happen all the time. But I agree with you, Mike, too. But

[33:43] like you said, it does happen and it works because I've seen it. I've I've

[33:47] did the give me the patience for that. >> But we're still not St. Luke's though as

[33:51] small as we are. >> No, no, but my point was was that was it

[33:56] I I used St. Luke's just because that's who I was

[33:59] familiar with. I'm just saying that 6 or 7 months down the road I still still was

[34:04] getting bills and that had to do with Medicare. Uh that that was my point.

[34:08] » Oh, with Medicare that's a whole >> But

[34:10] » [clears throat] >> but take that one.

[34:11] » That's true. >> And even with myself with the county

[34:14] insurance with I don't I haven't had a real complaint about the county

[34:18] insurance after all the bumps that that went through going through a bankruptcy

[34:22] and everything. It's working good for me now. But

[34:26] that has been part of the problem for me is is when they decide trying to decide

[34:31] who's responsible for how much. You know, what whether they're going to

[34:36] pay or whether they're not and that's been some of my experience.

[34:40] » The concerns about that stuff all need to be brought forward. I mean, I can't

[34:43] answer all of those questions. It has to be a group, you know, within the board

[34:47] meeting or whatever to discuss the problems. And if community brings it

[34:51] forward, anybody's welcome to come and sit in to the meeting.

[34:55] Um, if they have a complaint, they can call Ray at you know, call anybody at

[34:59] the hospital to discuss it. >> Well, they're not here to throw you

[35:02] under the bus by any means. We're here to discuss the hospital. But that's just

[35:06] that that's out there. I mean, that's in the community. That's the billing

[35:11] department has made a lot of people mad at this hospital and it's run them

[35:15] off. >> And for a lot of years, there wasn't a

[35:19] very good billing system at the hospital cuz people didn't think they had to

[35:22] really, you know, make sure that their payments were taken care of and stuff,

[35:26] too. I think we have another problem with reconditioning from last year, too.

[35:31] » And and there's a fine line between people thinking that that

[35:37] I get the bill and then I get talked about collections, but you've got to try

[35:41] to move that through the system because some of these people, obviously, some of

[35:46] them will never pay. You know, we know we've seen what the

[35:49] numbers are on self pay, but regardless, they need to be pursued to try to

[35:54] collect what money >> We do that for we got to keep them going

[35:57] for sure. >> Oh, yeah, right, right. That's what I'm

[35:59] saying. I mean, it's a fine line between people thinking

[36:03] they're they're being sought after too hard and

[36:06] a lot of those people are never going to pay till they're pushed, you know.

[36:10] » And and that's what I've heard is, you know,

[36:13] we give them $4.2 million this year for a budget for

[36:18] '27. And and I get these people that come up

[36:21] that do faithfully pay their bills and they're mad because it's like, why am I

[36:25] giving them tax money to the hospital? It's needed, don't get

[36:30] me wrong. We need the hospital, but there's just a lot of people

[36:34] in this society have a lot of questions about the billing department. It's

[36:39] » And those people need to be directed to come and talk to Stacy and Ray to see

[36:45] what the problem might be. >> Yeah, yeah, and then that's my

[36:47] suggestion. I don't run the billing department. I don't know. You need to go

[36:52] » Do we Do we have any other questions for >> No, I've got

[36:55] The north end of the hospital, everything seems to be working really,

[36:58] really good. The south end in the actual hospital

[37:02] department, morale seems to be not the best in the world. How would you

[37:07] suggest improving that? >> Well, I think we have to understand what

[37:13] or what the morale problem is. Is it leadership? Is it I mean, they need to

[37:17] address their managers. Like, you know, walk through this

[37:21] um that

[37:23] » through the process >> command

[37:25] » Yeah. >> You know, start with your manager. If

[37:27] that doesn't work, then you go to the next step, but

[37:30] you know, that'll have to be handled like

[37:33] in appropriate in appropriate way. And sometimes you can't please everybody.

[37:38] So >> Okay.

[37:42] Any other questions? I think so.

[37:46] » All right. >> All right.

[37:47] » Thank you for coming. >> guys.

[37:48] » Thank you very much. >> Appreciate it, Jerry.

[37:51] » Thank you. >> Thanks very much.

[37:52] » [clears throat] >> We're done.

[37:56] » So, you want to have some questions, too?

[37:58] » I don't have anything to do. This is my husband right now.

[38:00] » No, I didn't know I was allergic. Thank you, guys. Thank you.

[38:07] » Okay, now we'll move on to our bid opening

[38:10] for the water softening system. Do we have any bids to open?

[38:17] » I haven't received any.

[38:22] » I've got one coming in.

[38:26] » Okay.

[38:29] So no one has any bids.

[38:32] » Nope. >> [clears throat]

[38:35] » I know what my email >> If I recall correctly, they were due by

[38:42] last Friday at >> I don't recall.

[38:44] » 5:00 in the clerk's office here.

[38:48] I I will tell you I received a number of emails asking for

[38:57] plans and design plans, which that wasn't a part of the original bid, so I

[39:01] couldn't answer except for the bid

[39:06] information as is what it is, so that may have been

[39:11] an obstacle. I don't know that.

[39:14] But if it needs to go back out, that's

[39:17] something that probably needs to be a part of that bid.

[39:24] » Do you have any inquiries being lined up at

[39:31] » At least three, if not four. Um

[39:34] my impression from those groups that sent me emails is they may

[39:40] not be companies that actually would bid, but they are

[39:46] a place where they'll put the information out. I don't know exactly

[39:50] what what what they're called. Do you remember,

[39:52] Tom? Cuz I forward those to the Tom.

[40:00] » The The The emails came from a company

[40:04] that sends out bids people across the United States is

[40:08] what it was.

[40:12] But I don't remember how many out of one of

[40:16] additional information.

[40:20] » So, it wasn't from companies that

[40:25] » Not Not that I could tell. There may have been one that was a company that

[40:28] was interested, but they wanted specific design plans.

[40:33] And that's not what was included as part of

[40:36] the bid. >> I mean, you're talking here about

[40:38] somebody that was going to sell us one right off the bat. They didn't bid it.

[40:45] Pardon me? Who was going to sell us one right off

[40:48] the bat? >> Sucks.

[40:50] » Did they say >> They called me already.

[40:52] » From McElroy? [clears throat] >> McElroy's, I mean, they just The

[40:56] engineer found us the software that they thought we

[41:01] needed, the engineers did. And McElroy's could put it in, I

[41:04] suppose. >> [clears throat]

[41:06] » And I don't know whether I'm just going to send this text out and

[41:09] ask why they didn't bid on it, but I don't know.

[41:12] » Yeah, if there's something that we can correct, we'll get to fix it.

[41:15] » That'd be great. >> Yeah.

[41:17] » Yeah.

[41:20] » Cuz they were sounding like definitely interested.

[41:22] » Yeah, it was kind of like they were ready to move on it when we were

[41:25] discussing all that.

[41:32] » I've never received a bid. >> Yeah.

[41:35] » Yeah, I don't remember receiving a bid.

[41:38] » [clears throat] >> Yeah.

[41:44] » So, do we want to extend the bid time on it for another 2 weeks and try again?

[41:50] » Yeah, we just need to re-

[41:54] go back to that original

[41:58] » [clears throat] >> motion and then

[42:02] re-vote on the motion and extend it with a new 30-day deadline.

[42:07] » You need to add on there that uh whatever they're requesting or what were

[42:12] asking about. >> Hopefully. We just Yeah.

[42:16] » Um Let me see if I can

[42:19] Maybe if you put >> I mean if that was an obstacle

[42:23] you know, then maybe

[42:26] Yeah, I'll stick that in the biz, so we can uh

[42:31] get them to

[42:45] You told me said you did text Mac or Wade to see

[42:49] What is the goal? >> Okay.

[43:22] » Did you find

[43:25] motion? >> Yeah.

[43:27] » Okay.

[43:37] Excuse me. >> [snorts]

[43:41] » For example, one of the questions that that's not anything I can answer, but

[43:48] basis of design or performance requirements

[43:57] Um

[44:00] specifications regarding software capacity flow requirements,

[44:05] connection sizes those are things that

[44:10] are

[44:13] one of the questions that was asked was which is reasonable, but

[44:16] obviously I can't >> Most of those should be in the original

[44:20] specs of for that building.

[44:28] Mac of Maine's should be able to help us with doing the bid specific for it

[44:33] because of Do you have any recommendation

[44:35] » on it? >> And we thought that the original bid had

[44:38] all that information, but apparently

[44:42] it resulted in >> [snorts]

[44:44] » more questions. So

[44:47] » Al Cole says is he believed that Mac of Maine's was bidding planning to

[44:51] bid on it. That's all he knows. He's going to reach

[44:54] out to them. Can you say that?

[44:56] » Say that again, Tom. >> Cole says that Mac of Maine's were

[44:59] planning on bidding on it. >> Okay.

[45:01] » Maybe the Pony Express is better to help them.

[45:09] » So this is just giving them maybe a few weeks to do that.

[45:18] And so So that was a

[45:23] an advertisement for bids, legal notice.

[45:30] » We have to redo that. >> I was going to say we want to just

[45:33] change it. >> Extend the bid on it.

[45:37] » My my question is, I mean, do we want to do the same bid procedure, the same

[45:43] legal notice, or do we add to it the what the questions were, you're letting

[45:49] them know how to get get their hands on whatever plans or

[45:54] » Well, I mean, couldn't they couldn't they come in and look

[45:59] and see what information they need? >> That's what I'm That's what I'm

[46:02] wondering. I mean that's not for what you asked.

[46:05] » Because well What can they

[46:08] What can they have done that before? >> Or they can reverse engineer and get

[46:13] that information on their own. >> Yeah.

[46:22] » Maybe they feel they've already made their offer.

[46:25] » I just hesitate to put the same information out there if nobody

[46:29] » It'll generate the same >> outcome the same response. Yeah.

[46:33] » If we can maybe pass this until the end and Tom and I

[46:39] can see if we can get >> Okay.

[46:41] » some some more details And I'd like to be able to tell you what you

[46:46] need to put in it but that's not my not my area. What's the

[46:51] » Yeah, it'd be nice to get moving along with it too. They're struggling with

[46:55] dealing with this issue all the time sounds like.

[46:58] It'd be nice to get something done. >> What day can you We can do it here for

[47:04] once. >> There's May 4th or May 11th and I don't

[47:07] mind the

[47:13] » Okay. And we'll

[47:16] » Cole will be able to look at Cole will be able to help me with what

[47:21] they're asking for what he brought. >> Have you answered some of their

[47:24] questions? The phone?

[47:27] » Yeah. >> Right.

[47:30] Oh, okay. I'm talking about the the the bidders

[47:32] » What should we put in the bid if we could do something like that?

[47:37] » You always have to ask. >> Should we use his name as a contact?

[47:41] People seeking information for the bid? >> We should ask him maybe. I don't know.

[47:46] » We can check with him. So the

[47:50] the goal was to have an even playing field

[47:53] across the board. So whatever happens for one needs to be able to happen for

[47:58] all so that that's whatever information comes in

[48:01] [clears throat] that's why I couldn't just send

[48:03] somebody asked a specific question regarding something that's missing and

[48:07] then they get additional information and the others don't then it's not an equal

[48:12] playing field so that's that's the goal here. That's true that they're all free

[48:17] to ask these questions.

[48:20] Okay we'll revisit at the end of the meeting and

[48:25] figure out how to proceed to go.

[48:29] Okay we can go ahead and take our

[48:33] take a break right now. Um

[48:37] Just return at 10:00.

[48:58] All right it's 10:00 we're back in session.

[49:03] 10:00 appointment we have with Gerald and Kraus about property damage.

[49:09] You want to come on up here?

[49:12] Do you have my meter now since I've been using that thing? Okay I'm Jerry Kraus.

[49:18] I live at 2215 US Highway 75

[49:23] and on April 14th of this year I was sitting up actually reading and when the

[49:30] Sheriff's Department called me and said that somebody had went through my fence

[49:35] along 75 instead of turning to go on to 75 they went through my fence and

[49:40] destroyed it and I had been up already outside with

[49:45] my dogs cuz they were throwing a fit and then I heard a guy go by really fast but

[49:51] I thought it was on 75 not on my frontage road. Well, it was on my

[49:55] frontage road. And uh eventually what happened was the

[49:59] guy was fleeing from the the sheriff's department.

[50:03] And they went out there. He went through the 75 fence, then he went through

[50:09] taking two wires with him all the way to the next

[50:13] quarter mile fence, a quarter mile past that. Strong wire all the way through

[50:18] that. Went through that fence. Did a U and came back and hit

[50:25] these H's and gates that literally we had installed 10 days before that from

[50:30] Paul Blair. That bill was 50-some hundred dollars

[50:34] just to do that. And um

[50:39] I assumed and that and the sheriff's department all kind of let me believe

[50:44] that this man was the one that did this all.

[50:47] Well, I could not figure it out. Paul Blair

[50:50] came out. Him and I were looking at this. We could not figure out how this

[50:55] guy that was in the north northeast section, 40 acres,

[51:01] and how he came back and he hit the gates on the north side of this T, which

[51:06] had H's, gates, gates, gates, gates, so we could get everybody rotated.

[51:14] And um and so he was stuck there, this

[51:18] criminal. And um

[51:21] when we finally got subpoenaed on um June 10th to go in, I'd been asking and

[51:29] asking for paperwork. I wanted help on trying to either get Enterprise, cuz the

[51:35] car was a rental car. We were trying to get somebody to pay for some of this

[51:39] damage. Nobody would help me. Nobody would give

[51:42] me paperwork, nothing. Finally, that day they gave me

[51:45] paperwork. In the paperwork I see there's eight people that

[51:50] responded. I knew there was a ton of cars out in my pasture that day. They

[51:55] had to go from 22nd Road all the way across my ground field which consisted

[52:00] of 15 brand new babies that weren't even 2 weeks old and their mothers.

[52:06] And then each one of these had 15 and their babies. And I take very good

[52:12] care of my cows. And I don't want them killed.

[52:16] And I was very upset when I saw that many people out in my field.

[52:21] And then come find out in their paperwork it shows not only was

[52:27] the Mis- Mitsubishi involved in it, there was a 27

[52:33] 2017, I think it was, car that actually

[52:37] belonged to I'm sure

[52:41] our sheriff's department.

[52:44] So now Paul Blair and I decided we figured out how all the gates, all the

[52:51] the pole post, which was a 5-in post, all got bent northeast because this was

[52:59] guy was on the north side. How could he hit it from the south

[53:03] and go through that? There was no way. But we saw all the tracks and everything

[53:07] else. And now I know that the sheriff's department is the one that actually did

[53:11] all that damage. I want retribution for the $3,400

[53:17] that I'm out on that. I will go for the the guy that's in jail or prison,

[53:23] whatever he is at, for the rest of it. But this I feel like

[53:29] this is the third time in 2 years and 2 months that we have had massive damage

[53:35] on our properties. Maybe y'all don't know about March 30th

[53:39] of 2025 when they ran through the property along 75 and wiped out 450

[53:47] ft of it and had me come up there at 3:00 in the morning, told me that

[53:52] hydroplaned, but the thing was I was already up again that morning cuz I get

[53:56] up about 2:30. And it was light mist and rain. He

[54:01] barely missed a big culvert which he would have got killed in.

[54:07] Totaled the car and wiped out 450 ft of that. Which they

[54:13] did pay, the county did pay. Your insurance paid that.

[54:18] And the year before that was when the two young men got killed

[54:24] on the highway right north of there. And we had all kinds of debris, big

[54:29] tires, everything else that got thrown into our pasture.

[54:34] We called the sheriff's department again.

[54:36] Nobody ever came out to help pick up that mess. We picked it up ourselves.

[54:42] So, I [clears throat] am asking to see if you guys would help us out on

[54:47] this. I I am really upset with um

[54:52] I I feel like we've we've went over bounds on chasing people.

[54:59] There are several of us neighbors that live on 75 and we are very concerned

[55:04] that someday somebody's going to be killed because I understand the sheriff

[55:08] needs to to chase a car. I understand that, but I don't believe at 100 mph.

[55:15] Because somebody will get killed eventually.

[55:21] And um Wade, he's representing, you know,

[55:28] I I I want this guy and I would prefer Wade to have this guy as this guy

[55:33] actually in the subpoena had told the other

[55:36] attorney that he was um >> I just

[55:41] So, the danger zone we're in right now is we

[55:45] have an active criminal case. And when we have an active criminal

[55:50] case, where it's still moving through the system,

[55:55] there are certain rules and responsibilities. One of those

[55:59] responsibilities, especially from the prosecution side, is

[56:05] to not have extrajudicial statements made

[56:09] that >> [clears throat]

[56:12] » could influence. So, this is on YouTube. Someone will come back, and I don't want

[56:17] there to be an issue with the case moving forward. We've had that

[56:20] conversation. I'm I'm understanding that because under

[56:27] » [clears throat] >> Kansas Rule of Professional

[56:29] Responsibility Rule number 3.8, which ties to special responsibilities of the

[56:35] prosecutor, I'm required, and

[56:38] I just need to make sure it's stated, and you can do with it what you want.

[56:42] But, prosecutor in a criminal case shall,

[56:47] except for statements that are necessary to inform the public of the nature and

[56:50] extent of the prosecutor's action, and that serve a legitimate law enforcement

[56:56] purpose, refrain from making extrajudicial comments that have a

[57:01] substantial likelihood of heightened public condemnation

[57:05] of the accused, and exercise reasonable care to prevent investigators, law

[57:10] enforcement personnel, employees, or other persons

[57:14] assisting or associated with the prosecutor in a criminal case from

[57:18] making an extrajudicial statement that the prosecutor would be prohibited from

[57:23] making under uh Rule 3.6. And then in the comments,

[57:27] it ties to uh

[57:30] other other persons.

[57:33] I understand your frustration. We've talked about it. I don't

[57:38] I >> And I could bring up what you said, but

[57:42] I will not bring it up. >> I

[57:44] appreciate that. >> Hm?

[57:46] » I said we appreciate that. >> Yeah.

[57:49] » So, you know, if it's a concern like this, we won't we won't do anything to

[57:53] jeopardize this case, you know. >> And you know, um

[57:59] I'm concerned about what I lose. I I am. >> Totally would be, too. And the shoes.

[58:03] » I'm starting to get really tired of what's happening in our county.

[58:08] And I I like the cops. I want them to be there.

[58:12] But I'm going to ask you point-blank, who

[58:15] would have paid my cows if they would have ran over my cows and calves that

[58:19] day? Who would have?

[58:23] Can any of you say? Would you guys have?

[58:28] Would the county have paid? >> Well, [clears throat] I guess it'd be a

[58:31] case-by-case deal. In my That's what I would think. But

[58:36] I don't know what the legal >> Because right now, I'm not getting paid

[58:39] by anybody. >> All right.

[58:41] You haven't Have Have you been able to collect any of the other money from

[58:45] » From nothing. >> from the other So, the rental car

[58:48] insurance would not have

[58:49] » Because because nobody will look into this. I'm the only one that looked into

[58:55] it and found out that the car was rented by a girl in which

[59:00] » No. >> I asked them point-blank, why don't you

[59:03] She says the car was stolen, but she called it in at 3:29 a.m. He went

[59:08] through my fence at 3:15 a.m. She got a phone call. All you have to do is

[59:12] subpoena her. Get her phone records. Find out where she got the phone message

[59:18] that she had to call in to the cops that it was stolen at 7:00 the night before.

[59:23] I don't believe that. I believe she loaned it to him.

[59:27] But, because I don't have any help of getting that knowledge,

[59:31] I can't go after Enterprise. If I had that knowledge, Enterprise would be

[59:35] responsible for everything.

[59:39] » So, do you have any expectation of when this

[59:43] might go to court or be done with court? Wait, I Well, it's it's hard to predict

[59:47] when it'd be done. >> It's It's moving through the system um

[59:52] in I guess it's a case that

[59:56] for lack of better wording is in its infancy and

[1:00:00] I I'm not sure where it's going to go. I'd like to have it resolved, but I

[1:00:04] don't get to make that decision. If they want to have a trial,

[1:00:11] we're months and months out. So,

[1:00:17] I just want to make sure that I'm I'm doing what I can for Ms. Kraus

[1:00:22] and and her husband. I know she doesn't feel that way, but I

[1:00:27] I don't I don't control the the tone and tempo and pace of of the system.

[1:00:33] That's uh That's That's outside

[1:00:36] I guess it's within my control, but it's outside of my control at the same time.

[1:00:40] » Well, then would it be fair, Jerry, talk to me a little bit about it after

[1:00:46] the solution of the wheels of justice get done, we revisit this here if you

[1:00:51] have not been compensated for all your losses and that's the commission, we

[1:00:55] could look back in on that and see if what we can do at that point.

[1:00:59] » That's what I'd be comfortable >> with if

[1:01:02] » And I would have appreciated the sheriff's department telling me that

[1:01:06] they were the ones that ran into it. >> Jerry, is is your uh homeowner's

[1:01:11] insurance does it cover anything? >> No. Fence 250 ft from my house.

[1:01:16] That's the only thing. They will only cover fence 250 ft from

[1:01:21] my house. >> That's it.

[1:01:23] » I did not know that. Because because they told me if I went

[1:01:28] through them, they would have to go through

[1:01:30] Fight Enterprise. But

[1:01:34] but they called me up and said, "Hey, we don't do that. So, we're not Fight

[1:01:38] Enterprise because we won't pay it." So, nobody is Nobody's helping me.

[1:01:43] Nobody's helped me find anything out. And um I'm doing all my investigating on

[1:01:50] my own. And like I would I would like to see the

[1:01:55] dash cameras of all the cops.

[1:01:58] That's what I would like.

[1:02:04] So, I guess I made my point here. >> I understand your frustration and

[1:02:09] getting hit three times in 2 years is pretty

[1:02:13] » That's quite a bit. >> You'd like to think your odds are going

[1:02:16] to get better. You should >> [clears throat]

[1:02:18] » Oh. >> Well, and Paul Blair could not believe

[1:02:20] he built this all and 10 days later is completely demolished.

[1:02:26] And that's what it looks like now. That's what it did I had not even taken

[1:02:31] a picture of it before. I do have all the damage if you want

[1:02:36] those pictures, but uh but

[1:02:41] and Wade, you've done a good job. I'm not I'm not mad at you.

[1:02:45] Um I'm just I'm aggravated at the system.

[1:02:50] And I feel like the person that got the damage

[1:02:53] doesn't get any help. >> Yeah.

[1:02:57] » Thank you.

[1:03:00] » Thank you. >> Jerry, when this is

[1:03:03] brought to an end judiciously with him, please come back.

[1:03:07] » Okay. >> And we'll revisit this again.

[1:03:10] » Okay.

[1:03:14] » Okay.

[1:03:18] Thanks, David.

[1:03:26] Excuse me. Thank you.

[1:03:31] » Emergency Management Director Amber Presley, department update.

[1:03:40] » Good morning. >> Good morning.

[1:03:43] » This will be short and sweet. I have a lot.

[1:03:47] » What's that, Floyd?

[1:03:52] » Uh I did reach out to Stan Luke about uh all the resources that the county has to

[1:03:57] offer during any kind of emergencies or situations, and um

[1:04:02] I haven't heard back yet, but uh I'll keep trying to get with him.

[1:04:07] Uh

[1:04:09] as far as weather, we didn't have too much, but a lot of rain and

[1:04:14] lightning this weekend. Lyon County, I noticed was in a flood warning for one

[1:04:18] of their creeks, but so far we don't have any watches or warnings or

[1:04:22] advisories for flooding as of right now. And it could change. Um we were in a

[1:04:28] flood watch over the weekend, but it got canceled because they didn't get all the

[1:04:31] rain that they thought we would get. Um

[1:04:35] some places in Kansas got 4 in, and we didn't, though.

[1:04:40] Um I did check John Redmond to see their lake levels to make sure

[1:04:45] that we were sitting good there. They're not quite even halfway through

[1:04:49] in between commerce conservation and the flood stage, but they are 12 ft above

[1:04:54] normal. So, [clears throat] and but they're not

[1:04:56] releasing much. I think there's one one of the little gates open, not

[1:05:00] releasing a whole lot, so I think they're feeling pretty confident with

[1:05:03] everything, so. But I like to keep an eye on that. Um

[1:05:07] towers, so towers are progressing. Um all towers

[1:05:12] are up. Uh, all the fiber is ran, all the

[1:05:15] generators are hooked up. They still have some civil work to do at all

[1:05:19] locations. Um, all the fences around the towers are

[1:05:23] done and mainly the work is being done on the

[1:05:26] interior of the building and then the um, the racks that go in that have all

[1:05:32] the radio stuff and all the um, internet communications, all all

[1:05:36] those things. Um,

[1:05:39] they did Uh,

[1:05:41] the contractor did have some people that they lost to go work on stuff at

[1:05:48] FIFA at the World Cup. So, that set us back a little bit that

[1:05:52] they aren't getting everything done as much as they needed.

[1:05:56] Um, it was like FIFA's putting a hold on all kinds of things, but

[1:06:01] » [clears throat] >> um, so we're kind of looking at pushing

[1:06:04] back our completion date to probably August where we were thinking we were

[1:06:07] going to be done done in July. So, August looks like our new completion

[1:06:12] date on the towers. Um, I participated as SimCell for the

[1:06:18] Wolf Creek drill last Wednesday. Um,

[1:06:21] I played the entire county. Uh, dispatch also got involved. They

[1:06:26] participated by taking notifications from Wolf Creek as they would do in a

[1:06:30] real event or in a drill where they everybody was participating. Um, that

[1:06:35] gets them some practice on taking those

[1:06:38] notification forms and it also gives the Wolf Creek communicators practice in

[1:06:42] talking to dispatch. So, um, that's a good practice.

[1:06:47] Still don't have any um, drills or exercises this year. We

[1:06:51] plan on doing uh, Wolf Creek training

[1:06:55] sometime late summer, maybe into the fall a little bit.

[1:07:00] And that's all I have. >> Is that what was going on Wednesday up

[1:07:03] at the building at Beaver Junction? >> Yes. Yeah. The National Guard goes up

[1:07:07] there and stations and um

[1:07:11] sometimes they go up there and just do training and sometimes they participate

[1:07:14] in those exercises. So, they'll go up there and set up like it was a real

[1:07:19] event and run through the motions and then

[1:07:22] take everything down. >> I didn't see any military or National

[1:07:26] Guard vehicles in the parking lot, which really fooled me. That's kind of

[1:07:29] » Oh. >> one of the most memorable ones there.

[1:07:31] » Yeah. Usually National Guard.

[1:07:36] Any questions, issues? Comments?

[1:07:41] I think Okay. >> Nothing.

[1:07:43] » Okay. All right. Oh, we did get the um backup power bid

[1:07:48] in. Mark voted in for me last week. And we should be ready to roll. That'll

[1:07:54] run the 18th, 25th, and the 2nd. And then there's a

[1:07:58] holiday that week, so I put the due date on the following Monday, which is July

[1:08:03] 5th. So, then uh we'll open the bids and I'll

[1:08:07] look over them with everybody um

[1:08:10] with Adam and um

[1:08:14] and Austin. We'll kind of look at what we like and then we'll bring it to

[1:08:18] you on the 13th with a recommendation. What we like.

[1:08:23] Do when I come with that, do I bring all the bids or just the one that we decided

[1:08:27] on? Cuz I know you guys probably would like

[1:08:30] to look at the bid prices and what else

[1:08:34] » mind seeing all the bids. >> Okay.

[1:08:35] » I just thought you meant >> Okay.

[1:08:37] » Okay. >> Yeah, I can do that. I can put together

[1:08:39] all the bids together and the companies and everything. And

[1:08:42] then if you want to look at them specifically, I can give them to you.

[1:08:45] But, I'll still come with a recommendation for what we like.

[1:08:49] » Let's put it on the agenda for the first >> For next week? Uh no, the 13th.

[1:08:55] Oh. Okay. >> That's when you're auditing those

[1:08:57] computers.

[1:09:00] » So, y'all all can me out of the way first. Yeah.

[1:09:04] » Well, we don't plan to have her in the meeting today, so

[1:09:06] » Okay. All right. I know.

[1:09:10] Right after approval of the minutes.

[1:09:15] Yes. Okay. Thank you guys.

[1:09:17] » All right. Thank you.

[1:09:22] Heidi planning and zoning

[1:09:27] comprehensive plan project >> Good morning commissioners.

[1:09:32] » Good morning. >> So, as you are aware, we've been working

[1:09:36] on the plan since beginning of middle of last year. They kind of kicked it off

[1:09:41] about July and did all of the town hall meetings and did the focus groups. Then

[1:09:45] they started writing the plan. We've been slowly getting the document and due

[1:09:50] to circumstances beyond both of our controls, we're not as far along as I'd

[1:09:55] like to be right now. So, what I'm asking us to do today is to

[1:09:59] look at a possible extension because the right now the contractual completion

[1:10:04] date would be September 30th of this year.

[1:10:07] To be honest, we have about at least seven more chapters to review, but then

[1:10:13] we got to go back and look at goals and goals and objectives in each chapter and

[1:10:18] talk about the public hearing for this for this planning board plus the ones

[1:10:23] for you guys plus communications. So, I don't think we can get that done

[1:10:27] in three months. Being realistic on that, the way that

[1:10:31] we're reading the document and going over it and making changes is great. I'm

[1:10:36] glad that we're taking the time to do that, but it's going to take us more

[1:10:39] time than three months. So, my um

[1:10:42] suggestion would be to extend it to the end of the year and then we see where

[1:10:46] we're at there. Um

[1:10:48] I have kind of been talking to the board about maybe doing possible other

[1:10:52] meetings on top of it where we're not just doing comp plan. There's other

[1:10:55] projects that can come up between now and then, too. So, we can specially do

[1:10:59] that and then do at least a chapter on the comp plan. They've been kind of

[1:11:03] agreeable to that. But, so I've been trying to help

[1:11:06] push it through that way. And I know that the document is getting longer now.

[1:11:10] So, the next chapters that we're going to come up on are going to be like 30

[1:11:14] plus pages on their own.

[1:11:17] So, um that's a lot to get through for you to read as well. So, I have brought

[1:11:21] a motion with me today.

[1:11:27] Did you guys just look at um

[1:11:31] I did prepare a letter. You want to highlight for me one of your

[1:11:35] copies. If you guys decide to

[1:11:39] go with the motion It It is a draft letter, of course, if

[1:11:43] it's not what we want. Um Keith did ask that he

[1:11:48] be on it and sign it along with the chairman of the new board.

[1:12:01] What's one of the motions she just read? >> You got substantial

[1:12:06] in there. That'd be anticipated or something to give us leeway if we

[1:12:11] have to extend it in the end on the first of the year or

[1:12:14] first of the year. >> Okay.

[1:12:17] So, you said it's on the new board. >> That's what he's

[1:12:22] talking about. >> I didn't hear you.

[1:12:23] » It's just having it where it's anticipated date or something where in

[1:12:28] case cuz I sit in on them. I didn't make the last one with the harvest and

[1:12:32] everything, but it's really bogging down on them with a lot of questions,

[1:12:37] corrections. >> They worked hard on it.

[1:12:39] » They've been working really hard at it. And just so we talked earlier

[1:12:44] with Martin's that and Wade was in on that

[1:12:49] We had a date, but it is anticipated that if we needed more time, we could

[1:12:54] take more time.

[1:12:58] » The reason why I'm putting something in writing and having the board and Marvin

[1:13:03] sign it is the original contract the end date

[1:13:09] or substantial completion date of September 30th. If it wasn't completed

[1:13:13] by that time, we at the commission's request, we built a

[1:13:17] penalty phase into it, which is >> I think this takes care of that.

[1:13:21] » This takes care of that. >> That That was my understanding from

[1:13:24] Marvin's concern. If they didn't get it done by that date,

[1:13:28] then they'd be responsible for a penalty. So,

[1:13:31] as everything that's been said it is exactly true.

[1:13:35] Taking taking their time to deal with this and not

[1:13:39] push it through. And then you have

[1:13:42] I was a part of one of the earlier meetings where

[1:13:46] for lack of better wording, but there was frustration on the part of the

[1:13:50] planning board because they're volunteers and

[1:13:55] multiple meetings to get this thing pushed through by that that due date.

[1:13:59] That's not fair to the volunteer board members. So, that For For those reasons,

[1:14:03] this is a request that's being made. So,

[1:14:07] » if we approve this extension, then I mean, the compensation does not change,

[1:14:12] right? I mean, they're still

[1:14:14] It eliminates the penalty phase, but the compensation remains the same.

[1:14:18] » Correct. >> Okay.

[1:14:20] » I need to correct me. I may be wrong on this, but I thought

[1:14:23] Marvin's was supposed to come down to some of these work sessions personally

[1:14:27] instead of doing it on the Zoom. >> So,

[1:14:30] due to the unforeseen circumstances on their end, too, they've picked up some

[1:14:36] more work. That's not our concern.

[1:14:41] But, uh So, one of them is going to be able to

[1:14:45] attend. Um they are claiming to come to at least the

[1:14:51] land use sections. I feel like the land use section should be done in person and

[1:14:55] the golden objectives plus the public hearing presentation.

[1:14:59] They are going planning to come. It's just

[1:15:03] schedule has The one that would be doing that would

[1:15:07] be Keith and he has been on other projects, not just ours. So,

[1:15:12] that's why Mason's been the one doing it on their behalf. But, they do plan for

[1:15:17] those to be in person.

[1:15:23] » So, on this motion that you were talking about the word substantially,

[1:15:27] do we need to reword that? >> Yes, sir.

[1:15:29] » Should it stay or

[1:15:33] We used to put it in time for a word.

[1:15:39] It's just going to be all right there.

[1:15:42] It's your job. Okay, I'm sorry.

[1:15:46] » No, it's okay. It's on the bottom line there.

[1:15:50] With this motion that might work, you know.

[1:15:53] I was reading on their letter. >> Oh, okay.

[1:15:56] » Okay, so that's just a draft. With the noise, I haven't It's not set in stone.

[1:16:01] Just wanted to bring that with it so that I could get your

[1:16:04] opinions and advice of how to have it written so that you can get it out.

[1:16:07] » One other thing, Heidi, this is not taking a shot at you, but with Morbiz,

[1:16:12] when we made this a deal, we looked at some other people in the Kansas City

[1:16:16] area and we were afraid that we'd be put on the back burner for other people

[1:16:20] coming in. And I know that they had some

[1:16:23] circumstances there and I think to me it's feeling like maybe we're kind of

[1:16:28] getting pushed off the burner to another one.

[1:16:31] » We were before. We aren't now.

[1:16:34] » Okay. >> No, they are They're very responsive to

[1:16:37] our requests that are being made and they're very responsive on the changes

[1:16:40] we want made. I'm keeping them month to month, so that way I'm not giving the

[1:16:45] board too much at a time cuz I feel like that'd be a lot of information overload

[1:16:49] if I gave them two chapters plus have the old

[1:16:52] um draft that they were looking at before. So, we

[1:16:56] are going at a very good pace. >> Well, I'm talking about Marvin and their

[1:17:01] overload that they're seeming to have. >> They're They're able to They're managing

[1:17:06] it better now. >> Okay.

[1:17:07] » A couple months ago, it's a little bit of a struggle, but

[1:17:11] they're They're doing better now. >> Good.

[1:17:13] » So, yes. >> The other night, I felt that the Zoom

[1:17:16] with Russ and with Marvin

[1:17:20] it it worked pretty close to them being in the room. Not not maybe not as good

[1:17:24] as Todd, but it it it seemed to work pretty good the other night.

[1:17:28] There's times that with lag between

[1:17:33] the Zoom, the computers, and everything, some things get missed and have to be

[1:17:36] repeated. It's not the best to hear in there.

[1:17:40] The one last meeting I was at, we couldn't see what was his name?

[1:17:44] » Mason, yeah. He was having >> And Mason was a huge talking on black

[1:17:47] screen on a black screen. >> Well, then at the end of last meeting,

[1:17:50] we were having issues with our camera. >> Yeah, I

[1:17:53] » So, >> messed up the whole meeting. There's a

[1:17:55] lot of money that's been laid out there thinking they were going to be there in

[1:17:58] person. So, that's where I'm coming from.

[1:18:06] So, wait, did Did you have any recommendations on the motion?

[1:18:11] We good the way it is? I mean,

[1:18:15] I think it's fine for what what you're wanting to do right now. I

[1:18:20] think it it could always be worked a little bit, but

[1:18:27] in essence, it covers the substantial completion date that September 30th

[1:18:31] extends that to December 31st, and if there are any

[1:18:36] issues, it be re-addressed at that time.

[1:18:42] So, go ahead and use it.

[1:18:45] Take this with >> I think it's fine.

[1:18:48] » Okay, I would entertain the motion based upon the recommendation of the planning

[1:18:53] and zoning director and approval as to form by the county attorney

[1:18:58] to authorize and direct the chairman of the Coffee County Commission

[1:19:02] to sign the letter of extension to extend the existing contract with

[1:19:07] Marvin Planning Consultants to complete Coffee County's comprehensive plan and

[1:19:12] estimate to be substantially complete on or before December 31st, 2026.

[1:19:20] » I'll make a motion. [clears throat] I'll second that.

[1:19:22] » Okay, Curry moved. >> Thompson seconded.

[1:19:26] » Any discussion? All in favor, say aye.

[1:19:30] » Aye. >> Any opposed? Passes 5-0.

[1:19:34] » Okay, I'll go ahead and make that correction on the letter and

[1:19:38] then we'll bring it back up to the next meeting.

[1:19:41] Thank you. >> Thank you, lady.

[1:19:59] All right.

[1:20:02] Well, we have a few things to

[1:20:06] or community assistance block grant.

[1:20:16] » Okay, everything that I've got is going to be going that way.

[1:20:23] » She's not on the Did she back out or is it

[1:20:28] Yeah. >> Yes, she's there.

[1:20:30] » 10:50 That's the part your

[1:20:33] » Right after Heidi. >> Oh, it's not on the end of the bar.

[1:20:37] » Oh, on the screens? >> Yeah.

[1:20:38] » Okay. >> Oh.

[1:20:41] No.

[1:20:53] » She saw it on earlier. I don't know what happened.

[1:20:56] She said it's on the speeder. >> I'll put it

[1:21:00] » It's on the printer. >> Yeah.

[1:21:05] » It was on the one I looked at last night.

[1:21:08] » On the internet? >> It was.

[1:21:11] » That's what I thought.

[1:21:37] » It's fascinating. >> Yeah, it was on the

[1:21:43] What's that last night?

[1:21:47] » [clears throat]

[1:21:57] » Do you want me to call Amelia to come on up?

[1:22:00] » If she can come up earlier, that would be fine.

[1:23:09] » The number you have dialed

[1:23:28] » How are you doing, Tony? >> Best day ever.

[1:23:31] » All right.

[1:23:34] » How about you? >> Same.

[1:23:37] » There you go.

[1:23:41] » Just gets better and better. >> So you

[1:23:44] » All right, start.

[1:23:49] » Second day of summer and for the next 4 or 5 days the highs

[1:23:53] only going to be in the 70s. I've never seen it this cool in the

[1:23:58] summer.

[1:24:01] » But that's all right. 90 and 100 degree days are coming.

[1:24:21] » Wait, and you are running a bit ahead, so

[1:24:28] So yeah, really if you want good

[1:24:34] So do we have to actually meet as a uh board of health?

[1:24:39] » Um >> For this or what do we

[1:24:40] » I mean it's for our WIC um update agreement, so it's

[1:24:46] the medical side that we have to do

[1:24:50] » Do we officially need to do anything? I mean

[1:24:53] As a board of health, do we need to officially go in and

[1:24:56] » I suppose you probably should. >> Okay.

[1:24:58] » Um yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't have that

[1:25:01] ready. I didn't read that.

[1:25:05] And here's the I know that it was sent over, but

[1:25:09] I did highlight the changes on the handout.

[1:25:12] » Okay. >> You're welcome.

[1:25:16] » Hey, we're going to I will move to

[1:25:20] » Convene at 4:35, right?

[1:25:23] » Yeah. Yeah.

[1:25:26] I would move to convene as a board of health

[1:25:32] at [snorts] 10:36 a.m.

[1:25:37] I'll second. Okay. I move to 10:36.

[1:25:41] Any discussion? All in favor? Say aye.

[1:25:45] » Aye. >> Any opposed?

[1:25:47] Passes 5-0. Okay.

[1:25:49] » I have a >> We are adjourned.

[1:25:51] » And I thank you for taking the time to meet today. Um so, I went ahead and

[1:25:56] printed off our previous one from 2022. So this is our WIC um Women, Infants,

[1:26:01] and Children program agreement. So currently

[1:26:05] Ryan County Care Arc, um they are the I guess you could call parent for the

[1:26:11] county, so they do all of the federal, the primal, the reporting, and all that

[1:26:14] in our region. So that's the current Kids as Great

[1:26:17] Start Management System. Um They have been managing our WIC

[1:26:21] clients for over 20 years. They just have to have an updated

[1:26:25] agreement every so often. Our last agreement was from 2022 to 2023. So

[1:26:30] that's the first attachment and I did highlight the changes.

[1:26:34] Some of our responsibilities have changed.

[1:26:38] We are no longer billed by hours for the monthly registered dietitian

[1:26:44] expense. So that comes directly from the WIC funds that they receive. So we're no

[1:26:49] longer billed that. We

[1:26:54] no longer have to employ a registered nurse for them to do like the heights

[1:26:59] and the weight once we move to the health department basically

[1:27:02] the nurses well. And then we no longer have to employ the

[1:27:07] clerical person. So that would be like the check-in

[1:27:10] individual. The ones that will distribute the cards.

[1:27:15] The ones that work. And then we no longer have to reimburse

[1:27:20] for their fiscal officer's time. That's all from their um

[1:27:25] grant funds as well. And then same with the registered

[1:27:28] dietitian. We'll put it on their grant.

[1:27:32] So the second one is the actual updated agreement.

[1:27:37] So this one is presented to you guys to make sure you guys don't have any

[1:27:39] questions or concerns and for authorization to go ahead and sign the

[1:27:44] agreement. So I'll turn it back over.

[1:27:48] And that will be for 2026 to 2027 grant cycle.

[1:28:00] And the reason why we haven't held the WIC

[1:28:05] program within Coffee County, why it's contracted out to Glynn County is just

[1:28:09] because the registered dietitian portion.

[1:28:12] Um for the individuals who need recertified

[1:28:16] or initial certification for WIC services, um there has to be a

[1:28:20] registered dietitian that performs those assessments.

[1:28:24] And unfortunately, we are a rural community and lack

[1:28:29] um the availability of registered

[1:28:31] dietitians.

[1:28:36] But they do come on site. Um there was a little bit of a funding

[1:28:42] um shortage on the federal side. They did cut funds

[1:28:46] temporarily um in 20 25, so they did have to do them

[1:28:51] virtually, but they are back on site doing the services.

[1:28:56] Any questions? >> This has worked out well in the past?

[1:29:00] » Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[1:29:04] » Any other questions?

[1:29:08] I don't know if we can approve this. >> It's like something we need.

[1:29:12] » Yes. >> Do you have an idea about how many

[1:29:14] people this serves in our county? >> Um I do not, but I can get those numbers

[1:29:19] for this year and send it over to you guys.

[1:29:29] I mean I I'm not even going to give you an

[1:29:31] estimate because we don't see all of the patients. So typically, whenever they

[1:29:34] come in for their WIC appointments, they come upstairs to see us for their

[1:29:37] immunization appointment. >> Yeah.

[1:29:39] Okay. >> Yeah.

[1:29:40] » Just kind of curious. >> Yes, I can get those numbers.

[1:29:43] » Pretty substantial, though, I would guess.

[1:29:45] » Um I think you guys would be surprised on

[1:29:48] the numbers.

[1:29:51] They're They're pretty busy down there. >> Yeah.

[1:29:53] I mean, I would Yeah.

[1:29:57] All right. I will I will move to approve the Women, Infant, Children Program

[1:30:03] Agreement {slash} budget between Care Arc and Emporia and the Coffee County

[1:30:08] Health Department effective October 1, 2026

[1:30:14] through September 30, 2027 to ensure that the eligible citizens of

[1:30:20] Coffee County are provided with wick services.

[1:30:24] I'll second. >> Kevin Drawl seconded.

[1:30:28] » I move and can't drawl second. >> Any discussion?

[1:30:33] All in favor say aye. >> Aye.

[1:30:35] » Anybody oppose? >> Passes 5-0.

[1:30:39] » So that is approved. >> All righty, we get a copy of that

[1:30:43] agreement once it's fully executed. >> Sure.

[1:30:49] Give it to Angie at least. >> Okay, sounds good.

[1:30:52] » Okay, so you don't have anything else as far as Board of Health?

[1:30:56] » No, nothing else.

[1:30:59] » Okay, well I will I will move to adjourn as a

[1:31:02] Board of Health at 10:42 a.m. and reconvene as a Board of County

[1:31:08] Commissioners. I'll second that.

[1:31:11] » Okay, Commissioner Thompson seconded. >> Uh any discussion? All in favor say aye.

[1:31:17] » Aye. >> Passes 5-0.

[1:31:20] Okay. >> All right, that's all I have for today.

[1:31:22] Thank you for your time. >> All right, thank you very much.

[1:31:24] Appreciate you coming out. >> Thank you.

[1:31:29] » Okay.

[1:31:34] So let's continue here. You guys are still signing and stuff,

[1:31:38] right? Let's continue here.

[1:31:41] » [clears throat]

[1:31:46] » You know what I mean?

[1:31:54] Clayton, are you still working on the water software thing?

[1:31:59] » I'm working on it. Yes. Um so what I've suggested

[1:32:03] Tom is going to get a copy of the

[1:32:09] room where this particular water softener will be placed, so they have

[1:32:15] what what it looks like in that room. And then there was a brochure that River

[1:32:21] City sent out when I ordered one of the requests to

[1:32:26] them from whoever this entity was. So attach that that brochure, the design

[1:32:34] plan, and then keep everything else the same. Bring that back.

[1:32:39] Update the notice, and then those will be the documents that will be available

[1:32:43] to anybody who wants to request information. That way

[1:32:50] it's fair across the board. That seems to be

[1:32:53] internally consistent with what some of the requests were for. What does that

[1:32:58] room look like? What what space is available? I don't know how big these

[1:33:02] things are, but maybe that makes a difference in what what they'll put as

[1:33:07] part of their bid. And then the scope of what

[1:33:10] the brochure is that is kind of the design

[1:33:16] for these water softeners. I don't know what else to do.

[1:33:24] So he's working on that right now. >> Okay.

[1:33:35] » Are you all done signing?

[1:33:38] » I have everything I need and I'm done. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[1:33:42] » Well,

[1:33:47] I want to do round table real quick before we do budget work session.

[1:33:55] Thank you. Do you have to say for round table?

[1:34:01] I'm just handing these out. The uh

[1:34:05] Coffee County Cancer Support Group came by my office. I think they

[1:34:09] thought they were on the agenda for today.

[1:34:12] I indicated to them, and this is maybe me speaking out of turn.

[1:34:20] I was already providing some diversion money to the Cancer Support Group.

[1:34:25] Um >> [clears throat]

[1:34:26] » I think nobody will deny it's a noteworthy cause and and group, the

[1:34:30] effort that they uh

[1:34:32] put forward. But, if

[1:34:35] my understanding is correct from what you've indicated previously, that that's

[1:34:39] not a good utilization of taxpayer money.

[1:34:43] Diversion money is not taxpayer money, and that's why I

[1:34:47] contribute to them. Um

[1:34:50] so, she wanted me to hand these out to each

[1:34:54] of you. This is matters for you to do with. Do with it what you what you want.

[1:34:59] » Okay.

[1:35:04] All right. Thanks. Anything else?

[1:35:08] » I actually got a couple things. >> What?

[1:35:12] » Well, so one one is on the North property.

[1:35:17] » Uh-huh. >> I have the as I indicated last week, I

[1:35:20] have the completed uh three-person appraisal

[1:35:25] appraiser opinion of value, which includes not only the residence, but the

[1:35:30] uh agricultural property, and then that final figure.

[1:35:34] That has not been provided to each of you.

[1:35:38] Uh and that's done intentionally. The only thing that

[1:35:41] you've seen so far is the agreement that contemplated what the scope of work was.

[1:35:47] Just And that's for those two out there as well.

[1:35:52] What we're waiting on was the completed full appraisal from Jeff Clark, which I

[1:35:56] received on either Friday or Saturday. I can't remember which one. It It's

[1:36:02] probably 30 30 pages, maybe. Maybe just a little bit

[1:36:07] less than that. That That has been completed. So,

[1:36:12] now we're at the stage where you need to figure out how you want to

[1:36:17] move forward. Um

[1:36:21] You You probably need to consider setting a a reserve then

[1:36:26] um because I have the advantage of having the the documents to

[1:36:30] to talk about, I think, for

[1:36:34] purposes of setting sort of the structure on how you want to

[1:36:39] move forward. You may consider

[1:36:44] uh It It may be something that we need to

[1:36:47] talk about as a consultation with with your

[1:36:51] attorney to move forward. We don't have to do that right now. You can maybe chew

[1:36:56] on that and then from there,

[1:36:59] all of the all of the information at some point will have to be disclosed.

[1:37:04] But, right now, so that somebody does not have a competitive advantage to move

[1:37:09] forward, um because that

[1:37:13] you want this to be just like anything else and you've done this before.

[1:37:18] You go back in time when you were uh

[1:37:22] selling other property, you came up with a

[1:37:25] a a a figure

[1:37:28] and that figure, for for this purpose, you need to set up

[1:37:34] your your reserve and you don't want that reserve

[1:37:38] disclosed publicly because if all you're going to do is set a reserve and do it

[1:37:42] publicly, then you might as well just say here's what what your figure is

[1:37:46] because if it goes out to an auction or on the market, then

[1:37:51] somebody already knows what your what your bottom line is. So, that that's

[1:37:56] sort of the the point of that, but you need to know

[1:37:59] sort of what you're working with and what you have uh regarding these

[1:38:03] appraisals. The appraisal is

[1:38:07] a benefit to you as a board so that it doesn't look

[1:38:10] like from the outside looking in, maybe it will anyways, I don't know,

[1:38:15] um that you just pulled a number out of the

[1:38:17] air. It actually is a number that has been that is by professionals in that

[1:38:23] industry who uh came up with the those numbers. So,

[1:38:27] then somebody wants to assign blame or scrutiny to you later on down the road,

[1:38:32] then it's

[1:38:34] the [clears throat] these are figures that are used in the courtroom. These

[1:38:37] are figures that are reasonable and uh would withstand that that scrutiny if it

[1:38:44] comes. Benefit to the board, so that's it.

[1:38:48] That's number one. Number two, I have two

[1:38:52] um executive sessions that I need to

[1:38:55] request. One is I need to provide you an update

[1:39:00] regarding ongoing litigation against the county.

[1:39:04] Um that's number one. Number two

[1:39:08] would be similar except for in case potential litigation against the county.

[1:39:13] And those are two issues that I'm not going to talk about

[1:39:18] in the open. You need to be um advised of what what's happening

[1:39:22] regarding each scenario. >> I will.

[1:39:27] » This one e- each of them 10 minutes. >> Before we do that, real quick, can she

[1:39:33] call? Do you have enough

[1:39:37] update on uh wholesale 12? >> Yeah, I think

[1:39:40] » It's short update. >> Okay, it has to be long.

[1:39:43] » Yeah, I have to be. You want

[1:39:45] » give that to us real quick before we move into this other stuff. Maybe also

[1:39:49] » Um last Wednesday I went up and took her letter took letter up to him

[1:39:54] talked to him and it was it was very well received. Um they have the same

[1:39:59] basic philosophy that we do we need to secure water out of Mountain Reservoir

[1:40:03] for the to secure future public water supply 12 in the region.

[1:40:08] They're very much willing to press forward. They're in the middle

[1:40:11] they want to send a letter back with support uh for a mutual meeting.

[1:40:16] Richard Hines their lawyer will be reaching out to Wade to talk about the

[1:40:19] legal issues we need to get worked out. The only worry they have is the same one

[1:40:23] we did is making sure that we all agree on the verbage so no uh future

[1:40:27] commission or board water board have to worry about what we've done.

[1:40:32] So but it was it was terrifically received. So

[1:40:35] uh they did receive a little update as far as what it would look like the

[1:40:38] general outline from Men West and Engineering. Uh I'll

[1:40:42] be working with Jenny to work with them to bring them the information back up so

[1:40:46] we can give you that same same information so people see we can keep

[1:40:50] everybody on the same page. Any questions?

[1:40:54] » Very good. >> Oh no it was it was terrific. It was

[1:40:58] really up beating. >> I appreciate the update.

[1:41:02] » [clears throat] >> Thank you.

[1:41:03] » Thanks Carl.

[1:41:07] » Okay.

[1:41:10] Move back to executive session. You said 10 minutes, right?

[1:41:15] » 10 minutes for each. >> I would entertain a motion to enter into

[1:41:20] executive session uh for 10 minutes to include each of the

[1:41:25] commissioners and county council at Wade who second

[1:41:29] to discuss matters deemed privileged in the attorney-client relationship

[1:41:34] regarding legal advice uh regarding ongoing litigation against

[1:41:39] county under the Kansas Open Meetings Act

[1:41:42] KSA 75-4319 B2

[1:41:48] and to resume in the commission chambers at

[1:41:53] uh 11:05.

[1:41:56] So >> Second.

[1:41:58] » Parker moved. >> McCrary seconded.

[1:42:03] » Any discussion? All in favor, say aye.

[1:42:06] » Aye. >> May oppose?

[1:42:08] » Passes 5-0. So we return at 11:05.

[1:42:19] » And I'm just making you give us some I'll just make you give us a couple

[1:42:22] minutes more. >> Oh, okay.

[1:42:24] » Yeah, good idea.

[1:42:28] » No action taken following that executive session.

[1:42:34] We'll get a enter I'd entertain a motion to enter into executive session for 10

[1:42:39] minutes to include each of the commissioners and

[1:42:42] county counselor Wade Due II to discuss matters deemed privileged in the

[1:42:46] attorney-client relationship regarding legal advice

[1:42:51] uh regarding potential leak litigation against county under Kansas Open

[1:42:56] Meetings Act KSA 75-4319 B2

[1:43:02] to resume in the county in the commission chambers at

[1:43:09] » 11:18 >> 11:19

[1:43:14] 11:19 >> I'll move.

[1:43:17] » Oh, did you move? >> No, I I moved.

[1:43:20] » So McCrary moved, Parker seconded. Any discussion?

[1:43:25] All in favor, say aye. >> Aye.

[1:43:26] » May oppose? >> Passes 5-0.

[1:43:34] » Yes, at 11:19.

[1:43:50] » Back in open session. No action taken [clears throat]

[1:43:54] following that executive session.

[1:44:06] Do you have anything else on the round table waiting for me to do?

[1:44:10] » I I think [clears throat] we may >> [cough]

[1:44:13] » after a while may go ahead and do the attorney client

[1:44:19] concern up north.

[1:44:22] » Okay. I'm going to go and

[1:44:25] see if I can get the documents from Palm on the

[1:44:28] the water softener so that can can re-advertised.

[1:44:34] And just so you know, I mentioned last week the issue regarding the the air

[1:44:40] handler and actuators and updates. The estimate came in under $10,000.

[1:44:49] So

[1:44:51] I plan on going ahead and giving the green light

[1:44:55] to to make that happen. Otherwise, if you don't do that

[1:45:02] somewhere in the very near future is a $250,000

[1:45:06] uh replacement and this [clears throat] will extend the life of what you have

[1:45:10] currently. So

[1:45:13] » That's good.

[1:45:18] » Okay. Tom, do you have anything? >> Yeah, um

[1:45:22] I think this is doing budgets and stuff and everything. I

[1:45:25] would like some time maybe guys are in and care or anything.

[1:45:30] An update from the jail and sheriff's department on how

[1:45:34] much money we're taking out of the federal prisoners. That was supposed to

[1:45:37] offset and then on the bond issue, see where we're at.

[1:45:41] What we're going to have to decide to come up with money for payment if

[1:45:45] anything's being made towards that yet.

[1:45:50] Just being updated a little bit on that. Kind of help us

[1:45:54] I was thinking about that last week myself and

[1:46:01] Well, I mean since he switched switched to Benchmark, wasn't that just to save

[1:46:07] quite a bit of money? the kitchen. Yeah.

[1:46:09] » Yeah. >> Yeah, there was a lot of money

[1:46:12] » [clears throat] >> Yeah, that's $13 a meal that

[1:46:17] every or whatever it was. I had those figures.

[1:46:20] Yeah, so.

[1:46:27] » All right. >> You got anything on the top?

[1:46:30] » I think that's all I got. >> All right, okay.

[1:46:32] » Uh only thing I've got, uh Darren did get back with me and the tenant at the

[1:46:37] airport is willing to go ahead and lease that at the rate. I don't know if we may

[1:46:41] have to get more definite definite acreage. 25 to 55 acres was his initial

[1:46:47] thought. So, when we get that, I suppose we'll need

[1:46:50] to give those something in the contract as

[1:46:53] far as

[1:46:56] Just what I had in mind. That's all I got.

[1:47:01] » Okay. >> Mike?

[1:47:03] Only thing I really got was same thing kind of Wade's talking about the

[1:47:07] airport, that industrial park and then Heidi said it's progressing pretty good,

[1:47:11] the platting of it. Um here's She talked to me

[1:47:16] a couple weeks ago and

[1:47:20] apparently the architect or engineer, whoever plotting it out wanted to name

[1:47:25] for that subdivision. So, I think preliminarily

[1:47:30] the name Prairie Grass Industrial Park was established for that little airport.

[1:47:37] And then she hit me up last week about naming the road because she had asked

[1:47:41] name for the road so EOC could issue calls addresses for each one of them.

[1:47:47] And I sent her back a suggestion of Meadowlark Street or Meadowlark Lane.

[1:47:54] » Would it tie Could it tie into Meadow? >> Or to Meadowlark Lane?

[1:47:57] » It doesn't have >> So, I didn't know if you

[1:48:00] » It's [clears throat] small. >> Yeah.

[1:48:03] » Yeah, that one's over to the east, so. >> But it sounds like it's progressing

[1:48:08] pretty good. That ought to be It'll be pretty quick.

[1:48:10] » Good. >> So.

[1:48:12] » Cuz this has been going on for like a about a year.

[1:48:15] » About a year. >> Yeah.

[1:48:17] » Good deal. >> Yeah.

[1:48:18] » Good. >> Yeah, it's almost the park will have

[1:48:20] legal descriptions for those building sites and

[1:48:23] » Good. >> an official industrial park.

[1:48:25] » Good. >> So.

[1:48:26] » By the county. >> And we've got some infrastructure

[1:48:28] already out there, so that's a good thing.

[1:48:30] » Yeah, he's working towards the water. >> Yeah. Yep, that's the next big obstacle.

[1:48:36] » Okay. >> Sounds good.

[1:48:38] » Steve? >> Yeah, the only thing I've got I've

[1:48:41] » [clears throat] >> I would like to make a motion to appoint

[1:48:46] Jody Thomas to fill the position

[1:48:50] » Oh, I'm sorry. Let me guess somebody else.

[1:48:53] » She just left. She just left.

[1:48:59] » She does >> Poke your head in there and see if

[1:49:02] » And she's from >> Are any of them

[1:49:04] » I don't know. >> Somebody that

[1:49:06] Everything good? Has keyboarding skills like I talked about.

[1:49:19] » [clears throat] >> Thank you.

[1:49:23] » That's all right. >> I'm sorry, Andy.

[1:49:24] » That's all right. >> [clears throat]

[1:49:28] » Steve has a motion he wants to make. >> I'd like to make a motion to appoint

[1:49:33] Jody Thomas to the position of

[1:49:41] Coffee County Hospital Board to fill or to uh fill out the position

[1:49:47] » on the expired term. >> On that expired term as of 12/31/26.

[1:49:54] Does that sound right? I posted it online.

[1:49:59] » I think so. >> On expired term.

[1:50:04] » As of 12/31/26. >> Yes.

[1:50:09] Immediately. >> Yes.

[1:50:11] So, what is that? 6 months? Yeah, that's 6 months roughly. [clears throat]

[1:50:14] » On an expired term.

[1:50:18] Expiring

[1:50:22] 12/31/26. Oops.

[1:50:26] Okay, we're good. >> Expired December 31st, 2026.

[1:50:36] And that's the only one open on that board, isn't it?

[1:50:38] » Yeah, that That'll That'll come back. So.

[1:50:41] » And that's forward. >> Last 6 years.

[1:50:43] » So, you're making I'll second that.

[1:50:45] » Oh, yes. Yes, wait. >> I'll I'll second.

[1:50:57] » Days so.

[1:51:01] Any discussion on that motion?

[1:51:06] All in favor, say aye. >> Aye.

[1:51:08] » Anybody oppose? Passes

[1:51:17] Now, that's all I got. Have we

[1:51:21] officially been notified about the planning board?

[1:51:25] » Yeah. >> So, we got around this way.

[1:51:27] » a letter of resignation. I guess that's

[1:51:30] what pushed by them. >> [clears throat]

[1:51:33] » Okay, so we have one vacancy again on the planning board.

[1:51:39] » And there's a new

[1:51:41] applicant. >> Applicant.

[1:51:42] » I got paid also this week. >> Yeah.

[1:51:45] » I say see if we can interview the applicant next next meeting.

[1:51:49] » Okay. >> And uh

[1:51:54] That's what we

[1:51:56] Cuz I don't see any reason to go out

[1:52:02] advertise any longer on that cuz that's already been out quite a bit.

[1:52:06] » Yes, it's been out there a while. >> We did interview two other people plus

[1:52:11] we'll have one next week. If anybody else applies between now and

[1:52:16] then.

[1:52:24] Anything else, Steve? >> No, I don't have anything else.

[1:52:26] » Um I don't have anything additional to add.

[1:52:33] Wade is uh

[1:52:38] trying to gather up something so we can make a motion on the water softener

[1:52:42] again and then probably also

[1:52:47] discuss something more further. >> But in the meantime, we can look at

[1:52:51] budget stuff, I guess. Oh, Angie, I never asked you if you had

[1:52:56] any ideas. >> Um I don't believe I do right now. Uh

[1:53:05] We are missing a few budgets, not very many, but um one of the

[1:53:09] hardest. So I don't know if we submitted those, but

[1:53:12] we'll just do what we can and and we'll

[1:53:17] make sure that we get any changes or whatever.

[1:53:22] And I can mark things down. >> How about the

[1:53:29] Oh, hopefully Andy, do you have anything you want to

[1:53:32] say? Any comments?

[1:53:34] » Sure.

[1:53:37] And you made notes. >> Oh, you actually have something?

[1:53:40] » Yes. >> I was just going to I just thought since

[1:53:43] you're there, I'd ask. >> Okay.

[1:53:45] » Sorry. >> It's all right.

[1:53:46] » Yes, you like Mark Twain said, "If you get what you ask for, you might get it."

[1:53:51] » Yeah, so what you got? >> I'm just going to go back to

[1:53:54] having been a recent recent patient out here at the hospital and also worked a

[1:53:59] few years in health care. The billing question thing we were talking about uh

[1:54:04] I was reading the paper the other night and there were like four

[1:54:09] columns of 10 filings in the court system for overdue

[1:54:14] bills. That's the >> [clears throat]

[1:54:16] » a hassle that every small hospital that I ever worked at, which was Concordia,

[1:54:20] Parsons, Iola, everybody has that issue. So that's part

[1:54:26] of what they're fighting with the billing problems there is that they have

[1:54:30] a whole bunch of self-pay, no-pay people.

[1:54:34] You know, I had my stuff done in really April and

[1:54:40] already have my bill and they were very helpful at the

[1:54:43] billing office. So I was surprised because I'd heard yes, all the stories

[1:54:48] about it that I needed to set up a payment system since with no income I I

[1:54:53] couldn't get paid check for a while. But but they were very helpful and got me

[1:54:59] with the people I needed to be. So I think things are better, they're not

[1:55:02] perfect by any means, but uh I think there's been a lot of improvement with

[1:55:07] the current CFO billing system. I the bill, when I look at it, it's

[1:55:14] doesn't provide a lot of information that I'd like to see there as a previous

[1:55:18] practitioner, but as far as details >> Details, yes.

[1:55:21] » He They talked about that the last meeting I went to, and if you were to

[1:55:26] call up there and speak correctly, they will give you a MRI

[1:55:30] » I didn't get a bill >> Right.

[1:55:31] » I found a request, yes, that's right. [clears throat]

[1:55:34] » But most bills most bills will have that detail in it and you don't have to go

[1:55:39] making extra efforts to track them down, but uh

[1:55:43] good point though. Okay. Um so >> And that was And that was brought up at

[1:55:47] the last meeting on on on the Catholic board

[1:55:50] » The board meeting, yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:55:52] » Good. Okay. Yeah, that was where my only thoughts as a follow-up of my speaking

[1:55:57] for myself like Steve, you know, having dealt directly with

[1:56:00] » And I said St. Luke's and I realize that's a larger hospital, but I I guess

[1:56:03] my point was was that if if it's like that, it seems like in every

[1:56:09] » Every All hospitals >> All hospitals

[1:56:11] » In the smaller hospitals in general, all suffer with a high number of people with

[1:56:15] no insurance. >> Yeah.

[1:56:17] » And you know, I worked for about 8 and 1/2 years helping at a clinic up in

[1:56:20] Shawnee Kansas. You know, you think of Johnson County as

[1:56:23] affluent >> Uh with the

[1:56:25] » as it is, a clinic it is still there. I'm just not there.

[1:56:29] Um that was for people with no or poor insurance. For $40 a visit, they could

[1:56:35] come in and see a practitioner for health care. And And but they had to

[1:56:39] pay, you know, had to pay the bill. >> Because if you go into emergency room, I

[1:56:43] mean >> You're looking at $1,000 or more or more

[1:56:46] or several thousand. >> And they've got And they've got to

[1:56:49] They've got to take care of that person. >> Yeah, they have Yeah, because of the

[1:56:52] HIPAA requirements and all of the you know, you've got to provide care or you

[1:56:56] can't turn HIPAA away. Anything else? Well, that was my

[1:56:59] » of the things I thought of. >> Okay.

[1:57:02] Careful what you ask for. That's >> Thank you.

[1:57:05] » Yeah, Mark. >> I'm kidding.

[1:57:08] » No, he was just making us aware She

[1:57:13] She went and talked to him before the meeting and and he is making

[1:57:19] some kind of determination that non-taxpayer funds

[1:57:24] » Okay. >> So, going through this budget stuff.

[1:57:32] » So, on the wage increase you guys did not

[1:57:36] We you had it in there last year, but we took it out because we were trying to

[1:57:40] get reduced

[1:57:42] » Okay. >> things down. So, I went ahead and put it

[1:57:44] back in but you can remove it if you choose.

[1:57:48] So, that's why it's back there.

[1:57:54] » But that has to come from somewhere, so >> Right.

[1:57:58] » Is that something we want to wait for a draft to come through with her study?

[1:58:04] They'll come They'll They'll probably be after the auditor, so

[1:58:08] So, we'll be doing the audit doing the budget stuff before the draft.

[1:58:13] » Okay. >> We'll just have to anticipate I don't

[1:58:16] think it'll make that big a difference anyway.

[1:58:20] So, the commission and nothing in the spring

[1:58:22] » I reduced it a little bit just because I'm looking at

[1:58:28] what happened then. I felt like I could take it off a little bit.

[1:58:31] » Okay. >> If you want to put the wage the same

[1:58:34] » Yeah, so we're

[1:58:38] we're down, so >> That's good.

[1:58:43] » Any questions on the commissioner part of it?

[1:58:49] » This is for general wage increases. >> That's just for the budget for missions,

[1:58:55] including all the other stuff you see there, but

[1:59:00] advertisements, fuel,

[1:59:04] uh

[1:59:07] lodging, leases, personal services after the year.

[1:59:12] » [clears throat] >> Wages, training expense.

[1:59:16] We don't have a whole lot.

[1:59:22] JSD

[1:59:26] So, that's up a thousand.

[1:59:30] » Yeah.

[1:59:35] » I assume a lot of that has to do because of

[1:59:41] number three. Maybe insurance costs.

[1:59:44] » Insurance. >> Uh insurance.

[1:59:47] » Utilities, maybe. I don't know.

[1:59:51] » We're planning to replace some fixtures and do garage door work in

[1:59:55] 2027.

[2:00:12] Any questions there or anything?

[2:00:20] » And Jay, I think I asked you sometime about the utilities.

[2:00:24] When was the uh I mean uh >> Oh.

[2:00:28] Oh. >> Uh

[2:00:30] » Didn't I give that to you already? >> The evaluation?

[2:00:34] » The evaluations on on utilities. >> That just came out not long ago, didn't

[2:00:37] it? >> Yeah, I thought I gave it

[2:00:38] » I'll get it to you. >> Maybe I didn't. I'm sure I did.

[2:00:41] » I I I haven't seen it. >> You know?

[2:00:44] » Uh >> I could have just all We have them.

[2:00:48] » Oh, wait. Okay. I didn't know if that was later on.

[2:00:50] » 1st. >> Do you have your season then?

[2:00:52] » Oh, yeah. Um and I think Bruce I don't know.

[2:00:57] I think we just kept on rolling. >> [clears throat]

[2:01:02] » Yeah, that's what I was

[2:01:05] » Um >> I couldn't remember if it came out the

[2:01:07] last year or >> Well, it's

[2:01:10] » July. >> When you first put in the position and

[2:01:13] Casey, I think we might have missed getting that for the first time.

[2:01:18] No big deal, though.

[2:01:28] » So, in the clerk's office, yeah, the increase $4,100.

[2:01:34] » Yeah.

[2:01:37] » Is there anything specific on that? >> No, just

[2:01:42] any increases or steps or >> salaries.

[2:01:45] » Yeah.

[2:01:51] » Any questions, sir?

[2:02:01] Election department.

[2:02:05] » So, I just want you to know that not next year, but the year after

[2:02:14] our software for our election system is going to increase dramastically.

[2:02:21] Our our contract we've had with ES&S has been in place for a number of years and

[2:02:27] we were informed that that is going to be expiring.

[2:02:31] So, we will see some big numbers coming for

[2:02:35] that. And the the state covered a lot of the cost last time, but now they're

[2:02:39] going to be putting it on us.

[2:02:42] » For 27 or for 28? >> Uh 28. So,

[2:02:46] I just [clears throat] want to kind of just put it in your mind

[2:02:48] » Sure. So, no state help?

[2:02:51] » Not Not I don't know if we'll get any at all.

[2:02:55] If we do, it will be very minimal.

[2:03:09] » And then precinct is just basically personnel.

[2:03:14] The personnel services on the election in the end.

[2:03:25] Any questions, sir?

[2:03:29] » Yeah, you're good. >> Treasurer.

[2:03:41] Election precinct there

[2:03:48] How do you do this quicker? Pay that balance.

[2:04:01] 10,816.

[2:04:09] I got 12,660.

[2:04:14] The last year's budget. >> 11,000.

[2:04:18] » 12,660. >> On the treasurer?

[2:04:23] » Yes. >> Last year's 370s 716.

[2:04:28] This year 381 576. >> I got 10,860.

[2:04:34] » That's treasurer. >> 381 576. Okay, I'm I was having a little

[2:04:39] moment with that.

[2:04:52] » Contracts will actually went down. Capital outlay went down and personal

[2:05:00] services went up so

[2:05:06] » [clears throat] >> Any questions, sir?

[2:05:12] » [snorts]

[2:05:15] » We have Chamber of Commerce.

[2:05:27] » Same. >> Same on that.

[2:05:33] Well, what's it the same? >> Chamber.

[2:05:35] » Yeah, 150 for the >> 150.

[2:05:39] That's one with the The number was more last year but uh

[2:05:46] I think it's the way they filled out the form.

[2:05:48] » Yeah.

[2:06:24] » Any questions on the Chamber?

[2:06:28] » I mean we don't have a little Chamber set thing right now.

[2:06:37] » Stephen, wait.

[2:06:40] In the past, I just want to know that you were talking about the tourism and

[2:06:46] part of that up to possibly five. >> In the past, it's some of the chamber

[2:06:53] comes from tourism.

[2:06:57] » Do you recall that? >> I'm sorry, I don't.

[2:07:01] » But I mean, it wouldn't be a very big chunk if it did, but but I didn't know

[2:07:05] if that

[2:07:09] » Mark, I can't remember. Oh, well. It's just

[2:07:13] Sorry.

[2:07:16] Yes.

[2:07:19] » [clears throat] >> Ask that what Ask that again.

[2:07:23] » In In the past, I mean, several years ago,

[2:07:26] I didn't know if part of the the chamber

[2:07:32] budget budget some of the county funds. I didn't know if some of that came from

[2:07:36] the bed tax.

[2:07:42] » I don't know because the chamber just We just started supporting the chamber like

[2:07:46] 2 years ago, 3 years 2 or 3 years ago. >> I can't uh

[2:07:52] Yeah, I can't remember. >> Yeah, I don't want to

[2:07:55] I don't want to take anything away from the tourism and you know, what I'm

[2:07:59] getting cuz >> I think we're going down the right

[2:08:02] direction. >> I agree with you on that right now.

[2:08:05] » [clears throat] >> Mark, I can't remember.

[2:08:07] » Okay. >> So, this

[2:08:10] this year >> Up?

[2:08:11] » Mhm.

[2:08:15] » That's good to hear. >> Yeah, that's good to hear.

[2:08:17] » Yeah.

[2:08:19] » It had been down. [clears throat] >> It was

[2:08:21] 3 years ago that it was >> dropped a big

[2:08:24] » dropped a chunk. >> You a big chunk.

[2:08:26] » Yeah. >> Okay, Kansas legal Sorry, I'm probably

[2:08:30] way behind you guys, but legal services 500 increase.

[2:08:35] That's probably a No problem.

[2:08:39] » Yeah. >> That was tied

[2:08:41] » Yeah. >> Anybody has any concerns?

[2:08:44] » Yes.

[2:08:48] » Are we Are we lacking the >> Yeah, we have those two.

[2:08:53] » Oh, we're lacking Kaylee Kemp. >> He said

[2:08:55] » Yeah, he said that he >> He doesn't do with him not about that,

[2:08:58] but in the discussion he said he was about that at that time.

[2:09:01] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[2:09:03] Register of deeds.

[2:09:09] » Yeah, I know she has an little bit of an increase.

[2:09:14] So, there'll be some possible changes coming in that

[2:09:17] area at some point. So.

[2:09:20] » What Which one is that? >> 11.

[2:09:22] » 11. 10,000. [clears throat]

[2:09:25] 700. >> Yeah, that's right.

[2:09:29] » Which is not huge in the magnitude.

[2:09:33] All right, good. [snorts]

[2:09:39] I would say that the majority of these increases are

[2:09:42] personal services. >> Yeah.

[2:09:53] » I might get that.

[2:09:57] So, wellness program.

[2:10:02] Yeah, this is wellness for this year. >> Okay, no. No.

[2:10:08] We need to remove that one. There won't be one there.

[2:10:11] » Okay. >> We had a department in general, we moved

[2:10:14] it back to its own fund so Amelia could monitor that. So, that one will come

[2:10:19] off. You You draw a line through that on your index.

[2:10:22] » No. >> Yeah.

[2:10:24] » And wellness number >> General family law.

[2:10:26] » Chapter 12. >> [clears throat]

[2:10:30] » The 13th District Court.

[2:10:37] Municipal Court. >> Never good.

[2:10:39] » Writ of habeas corpus. >> What?

[2:10:43] » District Court you guys really can't do anything about.

[2:10:57] » Thank you. >> Thank you, AJ.

[2:10:58] » I gave you all >> All right.

[2:11:00] » 25 and >> 26. Thank you.

[2:11:02] » Now, you can see

[2:11:09] » So, it went up about 23 million. >> Yep.

[2:11:16] Nothing there.

[2:11:32] Yeah.

[2:11:35] » So, scratch 12 and >> Yeah.

[2:11:43] » District Court. Mhm.

[2:11:50] So, District Court >> went up $47.

[2:11:54] » History $47. Yeah.

[2:12:00] » That's non-qualifiable.

[2:12:04] I don't have any more.

[2:12:10] What is this?

[2:12:13] Mhm.

[2:12:19] » Okay.

[2:12:26] » So this wing, this chapter you have asphalt, you have

[2:12:31] equipment. There's three pages.

[2:12:37] But there's like two budgets. And this is that extra

[2:12:42] department in general that burden bridge uses for

[2:12:49] » Asphalt unchanged. Oh, I guess that is.

[2:12:53] Two and a half million.

[2:12:58] Equipment maintenance 50,000.

[2:13:20] It'll be okay with the asphalt and equipment.

[2:13:25] I wouldn't send for you crazy here. We're not saying these are set in stone

[2:13:30] that we're okay with. We're just looking at them. We're looking at them right

[2:13:33] now. We have any questions or whatever. This

[2:13:36] is the time that we're going to have some cuz everything seems to be going

[2:13:39] up. >> Yeah.

[2:13:40] » And we're going to have some questions or I'm going to have some questions on

[2:13:45] » I'm keeping everything in mind. But the cost of doing business is not a

[2:13:49] problem. I mean, D, I know that.

[2:13:51] » Well, I'm just saying >> But I'm saying also we took a butt

[2:13:54] kicking with the people about their increased prices.

[2:13:57] » Of their taxes. >> I know that, but I'm just saying that

[2:14:00] the cost of cost of doing business continues to

[2:14:03] » I understand that. I'm not a dummy. >> I know that, Todd. I didn't say that.

[2:14:10] » So well, basically, if we have any questions now on anything, then we'll go

[2:14:14] ahead and go back. Well, bring bring them in here before the auditor comes on

[2:14:19] the 13th of July. Try to get our answers

[2:14:24] any questions we have answered before then.

[2:14:27] And then then when we work with them, then we'll have to figure out

[2:14:31] Hopefully hopefully we don't have to work too hard.

[2:14:34] » And and it actually would be helpful if there's one you have a question on now,

[2:14:38] I can mark it so we can go back to it. That would be

[2:14:42] helpful because otherwise we're just you're kind of telling me

[2:14:48] okay on this one, okay on this one. Doesn't mean it's set in stone cuz it's

[2:14:52] not set in stone until the auditor gets here, but

[2:14:54] » I see what you're saying. >> It would be helpful to say, "Ah, let's

[2:14:57] call that in later." And then I'll mark it.

[2:15:00] » Okay. >> So.

[2:15:02] » Okay, courthouse budget. >> Okay.

[2:15:06] So, last year I budgeted what I budgeted because we

[2:15:11] were going to be paying for utilities and all kinds of things for the jail

[2:15:16] or the law enforcement center out of this.

[2:15:18] And based on where we're at as of May um is how I came up with my number for

[2:15:25] 2027. Um

[2:15:28] so that's that's how I came up with that.

[2:15:34] » So So, the 82,000 over increase

[2:15:40] » Yeah.

[2:15:50] » When you said paying for the jail >> Right. We Yeah, cuz see, we started with

[2:15:55] the brand new building and we had no history on how much it's

[2:15:59] going to cost or anything to run. >> Mhm.

[2:16:02] » So, we budgeted what we budgeted and based on how we've been running for the

[2:16:07] past 5 months is I what I projected for the rest of

[2:16:11] this year then to come up with a number for 2027.

[2:16:15] » Got you. >> I'm at 15.

[2:16:22] » Current house general.

[2:16:25] » Mine I don't have any county support on this that the 82,000.

[2:16:30] » No, no. It's the 1.8. >> 1.8?

[2:16:33] » Yeah, it's the difference between last year and this year's budget.

[2:16:41] » Last year was a guess and this is

[2:16:49] » [clears throat] >> four months for the different ones.

[2:17:02] I guess basically that one. It is what it is, I guess.

[2:17:08] Cuz we didn't know last year for sure. >> Yeah, cuz last year was an unknown.

[2:17:19] » Wellness

[2:17:22] and >> and we gained

[2:17:23] » Did it actually go down? >> Mhm.

[2:17:35] » Angie, back up 15 there. >> Mhm.

[2:17:39] » What else department? >> Yep.

[2:17:40] » On that back page it's got insurance / loans $40,000.

[2:17:48] Down there about halfway. >> Mhm.

[2:17:53] » Is that actually a loan payment? >> I think that's what we put in there

[2:17:57] for last year's budget.

[2:18:01] Oh.

[2:18:05] » Kind of goes back to what Tom mentioned a little bit about how much has been

[2:18:08] received for the bond team which is going to be due for the jail.

[2:18:12] » Right. Right. >> So.

[2:18:15] » And these bonds for the jail and the courthouse were tied together or were

[2:18:19] they separate? >> No. Uh the bonds for the jail should be

[2:18:25] being paid out of the >> Sheriff's office.

[2:18:27] » Sheriff's jail, yeah. >> But they were issued as separate bonds

[2:18:30] or is it one? No, it's >> [laughter]

[2:18:34] » Yeah, it's [clears throat] one. >> It's just the project that's in two

[2:18:36] phases. >> Okay.

[2:18:41] » Okay, that's what I was questioning if that 40 or so of bond for the jail or

[2:18:44] » No, cuz that's going to be like a million dollars.

[2:18:48] » And I had a question I asked Richard um a month or two ago

[2:18:54] and I was concerned about the shortage of maybe revenue from the from

[2:18:59] the inmates

[2:19:01] and he said the amount of interest that was made on investments is

[2:19:07] pretty good. So, I mean we ought to have some kind of cushion there. So, that's

[2:19:10] going to help out. >> Yeah.

[2:19:14] » It's good news. That's not to say in the future things I

[2:19:19] mean they might start >> creating revenue.

[2:19:22] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[2:19:23] » But I don't know where we stand for sure on the on the jail at the moment until

[2:19:26] we get some better figures. >> I like what Tom mentioned earlier even

[2:19:32] though deal with the the meals is going to be

[2:19:36] » Yeah, but >> make a fair amount.

[2:19:38] » I'm just curious how that's all going to shake out.

[2:19:40] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[2:19:41] » Yeah. >> Should make a

[2:19:44] » But well, speaking of this, I don't know if you need you guys to see the Anderson

[2:19:48] County paper. I don't know what it's called.

[2:19:52] The commissioner [clears throat] stepped up and said either close the jail

[2:19:55] » Fill it or sell it. >> Yeah. so

[2:19:58] if they shut it down, we're going to get some people there, but they were

[2:20:02] complaining about all the new jails in the area.

[2:20:06] » I read that. >> They were taking people in there for

[2:20:09] places like that before. >> Yeah.

[2:20:11] Is that a new jail over there? >> Mhm.

[2:20:13] » No, they refurbished there. >> just refurbished it.

[2:20:16] » Well, it's it's been like 10 or 15 years, I think,

[2:20:20] but they >> Okay. I couldn't remember. There's so

[2:20:22] many There's a lot There's a There's a lot of new jails

[2:20:25] » going up around, but >> Yeah, but then they need some more.

[2:20:28] » [laughter] >> Oh, that's bad.

[2:20:31] But But But they were counting on inmates to help.

[2:20:33] » Yeah, that's right. That's right. >> And now I don't think there's not as

[2:20:36] many, so

[2:20:39] is my understanding, anyway.

[2:20:42] So, general capital outlay

[2:20:47] at 50,000. >> Which way do you want?

[2:20:50] » Uh Beach Haven, 17.

[2:20:54] Is there a reason going up 50,000 on that?

[2:20:57] » Um >> Just Just

[2:21:03] » I'm not

[2:21:06] sure. >> That just That just goes into the

[2:21:10] capital improvement fund. >> No, it's in the general. So, like if

[2:21:14] anything major to the building happens, that's where we pay generally out of the

[2:21:18] general fund capital outlay. >> Okay.

[2:21:21] » You put an asterisk by that one. >> Okay.

[2:21:24] I'll put an asterisk I'll go back and review that one.

[2:21:31] » I guess we'll If it's going in that fund though, then

[2:21:36] at least we're not committing to spend it if that's right.

[2:21:39] » Right. Right. No. >> It's only 50,000, too.

[2:21:42] » Yeah. >> Cuz that fund is we depleted in the

[2:21:44] » Is that fund that We depleted it somewhat.

[2:21:47] » Yeah. Right. Right. >> Oh, yeah, it is. That's right.

[2:21:51] » What? >> you for reminding me, Steve.

[2:21:54] So, we [clears throat] used to budget like a

[2:21:56] million something in this one, 1.25. >> For capital outlay, and then we would

[2:22:02] transfer out to the capital improvement plan.

[2:22:05] And I thought I would maybe increase it a little because you still need to fund

[2:22:08] that plan. We've got to keep that that plan funded.

[2:22:12] » Because that particular one has been deleted.

[2:22:14] » Yes. >> So,

[2:22:15] » Yeah. We didn't have it in 2025. You guys took it completely out because we

[2:22:20] have >> trying to keep things down.

[2:22:22] And then last year we put 750, and I thought, "Well, maybe I'll just bump it

[2:22:26] up a little bit." And then that's what I >> are we doing in it as of now?

[2:22:31] » As of the capital improvement plan? We're we're going to fall short if we

[2:22:34] don't over the next few years keep trying to

[2:22:37] put more money in there. Yeah, I've got I can pull that plan up.

[2:22:41] » We're pretty close then. >> Yeah.

[2:22:44] » [clears throat] >> Yeah. And I I've kind of planned it out

[2:22:49] for 7 years instead of the five because I like to pull it up a little bit more

[2:22:55] looking at that plan. >> Mhm.

[2:22:58] » I don't know. I got I can pull it up here.

[2:23:00] » Do you have this >> fund sheet? Did you have that still?

[2:23:04] » [clears throat] >> Mhm.

[2:23:06] » What's what in this one again? >> I haven't gotten to

[2:23:09] » 5.7 or something.

[2:23:13] » Yeah, there's

[2:23:17] 5.7 and

[2:23:27] that'll fund it for

[2:23:43] still about 2028. That's 3 years. >> That's 5.7.

[2:23:52] » So, we really need to focus on getting some money in there.

[2:23:57] So, we're not even funded for 5 years right now.

[2:24:07] » Okay, that's 19

[2:24:14] 16 Oh, 18. It was unchanged. Sorry.

[2:24:24] Tech training equipment.

[2:24:29] » Next one's Conroy 8. Conroy 80. >> Oh, that's what it is. That's what it

[2:24:35] is.

[2:24:50] Is this Conroy Associates

[2:24:54] They've got somebody else in there now that's

[2:24:58] that's managing but he's still

[2:25:01] He just got He's still still uh He had that all in his own.

[2:25:07] God, I think it's still ongoing. >> Okay.

[2:25:09] » That There's new There's new uh

[2:25:15] Conroy was acting

[2:25:18] uh [clears throat] director there.

[2:25:20] He's still the treasurer but they've got someone else in there that's that's

[2:25:25] that's that's acting in there. Uh

[2:25:42] » When you do this, they're requesting the same as last year.

[2:25:45] » They're coming back to you guys, yeah. >> Yes, that's what I'm

[2:25:49] interpreting so far.

[2:25:54] » [clears throat]

[2:25:57] » Without saying too much, I think that >> We're still playing some catch-up.

[2:26:01] » It's in the process. >> It's in the process, so

[2:26:04] I guess what I'm saying is that that budget appears to be on down here.

[2:26:11] » Correct. I mean, it's Or that's my feeling on it.

[2:26:18] » So

[2:26:21] So there's several different requests within this, right? I mean, there's one

[2:26:25] for each each of the senior centers, there's one for East Central

[2:26:30] Kansas area aging senior on aging. >> Right. They

[2:26:34] The Council on the Aging take the budget request from the

[2:26:38] different entities, and then they present that as

[2:26:43] » That one sheet on >> That one sheet on the back, and then

[2:26:45] they disperse that and then they disperse that out to

[2:26:49] » Each each individual >> Each individual.

[2:26:52] Isn't that right, Andy?

[2:26:54] » Yes. >> The aging

[2:26:57] Council on the Aging is the main entity, and then they sub

[2:27:01] They >> Well, we pay them that 50,500.

[2:27:06] And then we pay Burlington >> Right. Right. Right.

[2:27:15] » So which has them all totaled, the Central Kansas or is there something

[2:27:19] else that has them totaled together? >> Uh it's the second page.

[2:27:24] It's the second where she totaled all the

[2:27:27] cities. And then

[2:27:30] East Central is separate, so it's 50,500 and then the 68,455, which is a total of

[2:27:36] 118,955.

[2:27:39] » And I mean maybe I'm wrong.

[2:27:57] Oh, 11.

[2:28:07] 17 100,000

[2:28:12] 80,000 >> So, on the very front page is

[2:28:17] uh has my name and Sewer Genie. And the second page shows county support

[2:28:22] request. >> Right.

[2:28:24] » And that's what we're looking at. Do you not have that?

[2:28:28] » Yeah, there's a lot of pages in there. >> I know, cuz she put them all in there.

[2:28:31] » That's the only one I've got. >> That's what?

[2:28:34] » That's total money into the AG. It's not on there.

[2:28:37] » No, that's that's just for the city. >> Senior centers.

[2:28:40] » So, that's 68,055, exactly.

[2:28:43] And then the last four pages in that packet is the Council on Aging

[2:28:50] and Nutrition.

[2:28:56] One's for 25,005 and one's for 25,000. >> Okay.

[2:29:01] » And we gave the 50,500 to Ottawa. The East Central Aging. They they

[2:29:08] distribute the food. >> Right. They distribute

[2:29:10] » And there was an issue with the food a long time ago, so that's why it got

[2:29:13] separated. [clears throat] >> I see.

[2:29:15] Is this a Meals on Wheels program? >> Yes.

[2:29:17] » Yes, and then the uh

[2:29:19] what they uh they have a different uh

[2:29:22] sites in the county and they'll pick up provide meals

[2:29:27] this uh on specific days.

[2:29:31] So, as far as the East Central Kansas Area Agency

[2:29:43] Those budgets are unchanged from last year, right? The nutrition and the

[2:29:49] » It looks like they did the same for us these two years.

[2:29:53] Which surprising cost of groceries in there.

[2:29:56] » But but looking at the

[2:30:01] looking at the individual senior centers, I was

[2:30:05] I'm having trouble I think there's some increases in there.

[2:30:12] Minor increases if there are any.

[2:30:19] Nearway, they increased 1,000.

[2:30:26] Waverly increased

[2:30:31] 13 to 1400. >> Yep.

[2:30:46] » And they all seem to be modest increases anyway.

[2:30:58] » Yep.

[2:31:18] » Gridley stayed the same.

[2:31:28] » [clears throat]

[2:31:40] [clears throat] >> Yeah.

[2:31:44] » It went up to $1,000. >> $1,000?

[2:31:47] » $1,300 it was selling >> Yeah.

[2:31:49] » About $1,300 selling it?

[2:31:53] And utilities is the same? >> Um whatever it was the subject of the

[2:31:57] email that said >> Okay.

[2:32:02] And utilities looks like it's insurance and repairs and maintenance, exactly?

[2:32:06] » Yeah. >> It's probably across the board that

[2:32:10] would mean >> Yeah.

[2:32:13] » And whatever it was that $1,300

[2:32:18] increase.

[2:32:25] Utilities.

[2:32:31] Do you want to discuss the interest? >> Yeah.

[2:32:40] » Any questions on any of those?

[2:32:53] And then you total these insurance and rent.

[2:32:56] » I don't have utilities yet. Are you tracking that? Are you tracking

[2:33:00] that now? >> As soon as you

[2:33:01] » Oh, yeah. Okay.

[2:33:08] » And then we move on to

[2:33:14] number 10. Also, we don't have cost yet.

[2:33:20] » No. >> And has she Have you been in contact

[2:33:24] with her? >> Uh I emailed but I hadn't heard anything

[2:33:27] so I'm going to reach out, call, or something.

[2:33:31] » And she's uh

[2:33:34] I see quite a bit on Thursday so >> Okay.

[2:33:40] » What's she wanting to

[2:33:48] She had called me last week. County Resource Council.

[2:33:52] You don't have anything from them on this.

[2:33:54] » Nope. I got to find out who I got to contact

[2:33:57] on this.

[2:34:01] » I found out seven months ago from the previous

[2:34:11] Which one was that one? >> County

[2:34:13] » Resource Council. Oh, well, we originally talked about Tasha. We don't

[2:34:17] have anything from them. But, she's been trying to find out who to contact

[2:34:22] on the County Resource Council.

[2:34:26] I don't know if Janet Waltmire's a contact on that or not.

[2:34:32] » Well, I was going to check with Waltmire's

[2:34:35] office but she wasn't here the other day so

[2:34:38] she might be here today. >> She's not here today. [clears throat] I

[2:34:41] don't think they do anything anymore but

[2:34:44] check. >> Yeah.

[2:34:46] » Yeah. Um so, you don't have utilities

[2:34:50] » Not yet. I just want to remind them about my

[2:34:53] name. >> Juvenile Detention.

[2:34:59] This is the same. >> Yep.

[2:35:02] » Yep.

[2:35:06] Your reports.

[2:35:09] This is the same. Same as the last one. >> Yep.

[2:35:12] » And then from two years ago.

[2:35:18] Technology

[2:35:27] » Who? You got a dollar? >> You got a dollar?

[2:35:30] » No, down uh

[2:35:33] » 21 >> Down 21 road.

[2:35:35] » 21 road. >> Yeah.

[2:35:36] » No. >> No, no, no, no.

[2:35:38] » Hey, hey. >> Hey, don't short them there.

[2:35:41] » Yeah. >> You need that cut to money. You might

[2:35:44] need that for me. >> You adjusted to $1?

[2:35:50] » Sure you can't get rid of that 20.

[2:35:59] Uh Council for the Arts.

[2:36:04] It's cuz it looks like they lost their longevity pay.

[2:36:09] » You went from 2,400 >> to 600.

[2:36:13] » Time out on that. >> Technology technology

[2:36:17] » I'm going to step back for a minute and make a call.

[2:36:19] » All right.

[2:36:24] » Yeah, I believe it.

[2:36:32] » Well, just adding some in there now, so

[2:36:36] and they don't have a new one spinning around there after

[2:36:38] » Right.

[2:36:42] » Council for the Arts had an increase 3,000.

[2:36:46] » Great. >> Yeah.

[2:36:49] » 6

[2:36:54] Professional expenses bringing performers, events, and activities to

[2:36:59] the communities received an increase in charges due to

[2:37:03] the world's economy together tariffs

[2:37:07] goods and services, which results in unwanted side

[2:37:12] effects are seen in higher consumer prices.

[2:37:18] Community stipends have remained the same for numerous years,

[2:37:23] as has the funding awarded. Council for the elders, your

[2:37:27] consideration of switches has been very much appreciated.

[2:37:54] Any questions, Council for the elders?

[2:38:27] Sheriff.

[2:38:42] » [snorts]

[2:39:03] » I mean 5 million. That's a quarter of a million

[2:39:07] dollars. >> Okay.

[2:39:30] » It's like most of those are personal services.

[2:39:37] What's the budget for personal services? Is it 3%?

[2:39:43] » How much for this year? >> Yeah.

[2:39:46] » Um 2.896 >> I'm sorry?

[2:39:48] » 2.896 >> What about for budget when they the

[2:39:52] letter went out for budgeting for for next year?

[2:39:58] Wasn't there something in the letter? >> 3.5%?

[2:40:01] » What did it say? 3.5? >> 3 or 3.5

[2:40:05] One of the two, not both. >> I know that everybody has an increase in

[2:40:10] personal services and I can't hardly remember.

[2:40:12] » Yeah.

[2:40:14] » What was told? >> Yes.

[2:40:17] » So all the students will see increases this year.

[2:40:29] Did we uh have to pay anything back from that vehicle on the highway that was

[2:40:32] totaled?

[2:40:36] » I don't know. >> Okay, thank you.

[2:40:40] » I can find out.

[2:40:44] » You know that was talked about paying for that vehicle and then getting

[2:40:47] reimbursed.

[2:43:06] » [snorts and clears throat] >> Do you want me to read it again?

[2:43:09] » Vehicle repairs and maintenance. And then we got vehicle expenses.

[2:43:15] And then we've also got vehicle tires and parts.

[2:43:28] » Well, so when we sat when we had to break out

[2:43:31] of these individual line items like this,

[2:43:34] we tried to make line items that would fit for everyone.

[2:43:39] And then we had departments come back and

[2:43:43] say they wanted it named something else or wanted it to be something else that

[2:43:47] they needed to see things listed out. So, that's why you're going to see some

[2:43:52] of that. >> Just cuz we need it. Well, there's one

[2:43:56] that says vehicle expenses $285,000. We got several others that seem to be

[2:44:00] redundant and that's that's an increase of $285,000 plus another $40,000 plus

[2:44:05] another $85,000.

[2:44:09] » I don't disagree, but

[2:44:28] » And commodities, is that groceries? >> Um

[2:44:33] typically it's anything you can touch.

[2:44:37] So, office chairs, uh office supplies,

[2:44:42] things like that. What commodities generally are.

[2:44:52] » 31

[2:45:17] » What's the difference between the two fuel?

[2:45:21] Uh expenses.

[2:45:24] » I got now. I have to ask them what they

[2:45:28] I have to ask them if they have something else.

[2:45:32] Different fuel usage, I don't know. I would have to ask them.

[2:45:42] I guess they have like road fuel in one and something else on another, I don't

[2:45:46] know.

[2:45:52] I guess they got a bunch too. Question, so

[2:45:57] » something this afternoon?

[2:46:11] » Probably vehicle expenses, purchasing a vehicle and capital outlay.

[2:46:16] That's capital outlay. And then you have vehicle fuel.

[2:46:21] And then commodities

[2:46:25] Repairs and maintenance and I have listed as

[2:46:27] and contractual and then

[2:46:39] » And then the cruiser There's a fuel here expense of 25,000.

[2:46:43] And then down here is fuel expense of 140,000.

[2:46:47] » Okay.

[2:47:07] » [clears throat]

[2:48:16] » Extradition is four times as high. >> How do you compare that? It's like when

[2:48:21] you need other than obtaining extra items out of

[2:48:25] our own municipality that we're bringing in

[2:48:27] » I don't know.

[2:48:31] » Pick them up in other states, bring them back.

[2:48:34] So, the transport secure transport expense.

[2:48:38] » I mean to be that much of an increase.

[2:48:42] » What was the >> What is that?

[2:48:45] » From 5,000 to 20,000. >> 15,000.

[2:48:50] » I think that probably has to do with the number of people

[2:48:53] over the last couple years who have been

[2:48:57] extradited. >> The expectation of having

[2:49:00] » Well, we had to go to Arizona, New Mexico,

[2:49:06] Texas, Louisiana, Illinois, and Cleveland. And I'm not

[2:49:12] saying just I'm over a period of time that I'm

[2:49:15] remembering. We've gone to Vermont, we've gone to

[2:49:18] California. It's a

[2:49:21] » Right. >> It just

[2:49:23] depends on on the year. I don't know how you can

[2:49:27] truly project that.

[2:49:31] And then that's on the back end, once somebody is

[2:49:35] convicted, I request reimbursement for the extradition costs, but

[2:49:42] » It's like transferring them to federal or state prison then or

[2:49:45] something. >> Um no, they

[2:49:49] Let's say somebody has a criminal charge, they leave the jurisdiction

[2:49:54] before their court date, then it doesn't just go away. They end

[2:49:58] up having to >> [clears throat]

[2:50:00] » come back and and face responsibility at some point.

[2:50:05] » [clears throat] >> It has to be

[2:50:06] to extradite out of state, it has to be a felony offense. So,

[2:50:11] certain felony offenses and depending on what it is and what I know about the

[2:50:16] individual, I'll request either Kansas and surrounding or nationwide

[2:50:22] extradition.

[2:50:26] » So, you get reimbursement on some of that, is that right?

[2:50:29] Oh, you request reimbursement. >> I request reimbursement.

[2:50:33] » Okay. Okay.

[2:50:35] Does it always come through?

[2:50:38] » Not always. I mean, it ends up being a a cost at times that's turned over to

[2:50:44] collections and then the the court system has their own collection system.

[2:51:03] I think it would depend on a given year. Like one year it might be low.

[2:51:08] A good example would be juvenile defense attorney.

[2:51:12] I usually ask for $10,000 and in some years it's

[2:51:18] well below that and 2 years ago it was 40 some thousand and

[2:51:25] it had to be that based on the type of offense and level of offense that we

[2:51:30] were dealing with.

[2:52:30] » And your reduced commodities would consist of

[2:52:33] » Anything that you could physically touch. Yeah.

[2:52:36] So, I'll just under Oh, under

[2:52:43] number is, but >> There's that under number like $1,000 or

[2:52:47] something and then it goes to capital outlay.

[2:52:50] » Okay. And that would be considered a large

[2:52:52] » Okay. >> [clears throat]

[2:53:05] » BRB.

[2:54:07] » Well, I guess Yeah.

[2:54:11] I don't know. I think they're not connected to the same network.

[2:54:14] it. Projector

[2:54:27] » I'm

[2:54:31] Oh.

[2:55:00] Okay, I'm going

[2:55:22] » So, that's still on the shelf.

[2:55:33] Thank you for the question. Can I come back to

[2:55:43] Transportation snacks. >> Crayons.

[2:55:50] » It's still $5,000 tuition and that.

[2:55:58] It was like it's based on

[2:56:16] » I'm ready

[2:56:22] » Yeah.

[2:56:25] » I'm going to go over the school budget.

[2:56:37] Total operating expenses. Okay.

[2:56:43] Yes.

[2:56:48] And then we have assets. And some land assets.

[2:56:56] And did she say something about wanting to buy a new van or something that she

[2:56:59] was looking for? Well, they they're always rotating and

[2:57:04] then it it can't all just stay on the black bus

[2:57:08] that we

[2:57:11] She's got a 25,000 proposed increase this year.

[2:57:14] » Yeah. >> So, in her letter it says uh

[2:57:20] their request uh they're requesting an approximate 9%

[2:57:23] increase in the county subsidy. >> Yeah.

[2:57:26] » Per KDOT, the amount of funding requested statewide greatly exceeded the

[2:57:31] funds available. >> Right.

[2:57:33] » Which resulted in Coffee County Transportation's operating budget being

[2:57:37] underfunded. >> Yeah.

[2:57:39] » So.

[2:57:42] They have a million dollars in assets.

[2:57:47] A lot of assets.

[2:58:08] And this is a pretty vital service to our county taxpayers.

[2:58:12] A lot of taxpayers. >> There is a lot of damage.

[2:58:22] Is there any way you can write that down for me CDs down there that she's got

[2:58:25] listed as well as the

[2:59:17] » Yeah, I just >> So they're like you're about personal

[2:59:21] services to make that both of that and then

[2:59:34] good portion of that I guess and then

[2:59:40] And it's only 3.2% increase so

[2:59:49] So the zone just went up $34,000

[2:59:54] in fees and they lost

[2:59:58] » [clears throat] >> It was $704,000.

[3:00:05] If they were to fold or what Yeah.

[3:00:18] » [snorts]

[3:01:27] » So when you're jail, what does the prescription scope from 8,000 to zero?

[3:01:40] » That's that's a tough question.

[3:01:43] » Yeah. >> I figured there's some sort of program.

[3:01:47] » I mean

[3:01:52] like zero, but uh

[3:01:55] just curious.

[3:02:04] » [clears throat]

[3:03:10] » With the new jail, how come our building supplies went from $100 to 10,000?

[3:03:31] Say that again, Todd. >> Uh it's on the second page.

[3:03:35] » What are you doing at the top? >> It says uh building supplies.

[3:03:38] » Okay, I see it. I see it. Yeah, thanks.

[3:04:02] » Oh, yeah.

[3:05:15] » Inmate Inmate medical

[3:05:19] 028 130,000 130,000

[3:05:24] » Mhm? >> All right, inmate

[3:05:27] on the

[3:05:31] Inmate medical I'm not sure what that is.

[3:05:38] 26 6000 and then 27 130,000

[3:05:44] I'm I'm 40,000 new ground from some place else, so

[3:05:54] » Oh, even even the one below it's got 38,100.

[3:05:58] So, there's 168,000 >> 168,000 I mean, I'm just curious what

[3:06:02] that represents. >> I don't know.

[3:06:09] » Maybe it was moved from

[3:06:17] » Registrations and meetings there, they had zero in '26 and they want 4,100 for

[3:06:21] '27. And contract services

[3:06:26] decreased from 110,000 to 65,000. >> Kind of makes you wonder if some of that

[3:06:32] stuff is moved >> moved around. That's what That's what

[3:06:35] I'm wondering. >> Sure, some of it is, yeah.

[3:07:23] After you guys get through the way and

[3:07:27] if you would like go ahead and

[3:07:34] Do you want to You got the water softener information?

[3:07:38] I'm looking at it here. We can do that next second session once

[3:07:42] you get through the way there.

[3:07:48] Then we can decide how much further I'm going

[3:07:50] this this week we will take it more next week.

[3:08:10] Also, next week we're doing vouchers.

[3:08:14] » Yes, vouchers.

[3:08:50] » [clears throat]

[3:10:18] » Where's everybody at?

[3:10:21] » [clears throat] >> I guess I'm going to wait.

[3:10:23] » I guess I'm going to wait at the lake, I guess.

[3:10:26] » Yeah.

[3:10:34] » We got I mean

[3:10:38] » If I try to move forward with that.

[3:10:42] » You guys can stop on the budget today then.

[3:10:45] » Um

[3:10:51] I guess we're at the halfway point. Yeah, we're probably close to the

[3:10:54] halfway. Um next week we're doing warrants and

[3:10:58] vouchers. How much is on the agenda right now?

[3:11:02] » Um

[3:11:06] I'm going to lie. Yeah,

[3:11:09] Heidi with reviewing possible approval for a case.

[3:11:13] Planning word interview. And then budget work session and

[3:11:16] questions after this. So, if you want me to

[3:11:20] limit what's on, we'll do that. >> Yeah, cuz we need to

[3:11:24] » Unless there's an emergency. >> Well, and if we have

[3:11:27] questions on some of these budgets Do what?

[3:11:30] » A half page. >> A half a whole page.

[3:11:33] » Yeah. >> Depends on how long that one is.

[3:11:34] » Yeah. >> Major halves and quarters.

[3:11:39] Yeah, so if we could see if we can protect a little bit of time for

[3:11:43] » Okay. >> vegetables.

[3:11:45] » How did you get all We'll do checks and balances first. I

[3:11:48] just have to have that done next week and then we'll do vegetables.

[3:11:52] » So, we're solving it. We've done the carbon dioxide.

[3:11:56] Yes.

[3:11:59] You can go and stay and work on this afternoon.

[3:12:04] Sure.

[3:12:08] I just might work out your agreement. >> Yes.

[3:12:21] » Okay, so as far as this water softener, what do

[3:12:25] we need to do that?

[3:12:34] » I'm not sure.

[3:12:40] Uh the water softener,

[3:12:42] check your stuff. >> You have everything you need. Here you

[3:12:44] go. >> Should start assembling around uh

[3:12:49] I don't have one copy of this. I don't have one of these.

[3:12:55] It's still more for you than Not so relevant, but what you'll see is

[3:13:02] That's the original bid with couple of things that probably need to be changed

[3:13:06] including the date. So, pick a date.

[3:13:10] When When you want that through?

[3:13:13] Here's a picture of a map or a diagram from the interior

[3:13:19] where it would be in the mechanical room.

[3:13:23] It's two different maps. An actual

[3:13:28] picture in the area that's being proposed.

[3:13:34] And then

[3:13:39] an example

[3:13:42] Well, I'll just pull out the the relevant sheets.

[3:13:47] Eco water systems commercial water softening sort of their their handouts

[3:13:51] for sure and then specific items that are highlighted that give the

[3:13:58] examples for uh flow rate and pressure.

[3:14:07] Nominal nominal resin tank diameter,

[3:14:11] height, inlet outlet height, overall height, brine tank diameter, brine tank

[3:14:17] height, service all concepts. I don't I can read it off,

[3:14:22] but I have no idea what that means. Um

[3:14:26] operational flows, flow rate, pressure. It's highlighted on the sheet, so

[3:14:33] Hopefully that will be enough. Um and then the only other thing is

[3:14:39] that there is a I don't know if it needs to be

[3:14:44] written in here

[3:14:47] anywhere. Um

[3:15:02] Service coming in is a 4-in copper line and I don't know if that makes a

[3:15:07] difference or or not. So, if you can

[3:15:11] just take a look. I think that the bid sheet with those attachments hopefully

[3:15:17] will answer some of those questions.

[3:15:23] » So, they request this and then >> So, anybody who's interested, this will

[3:15:27] be available here in the clerk's office and then it'll get sent to

[3:15:32] Ronald True Love down in uh

[3:15:35] the economic development. She'll post it on the county website under the bid

[3:15:40] advertisement section. That's where a number of the

[3:15:45] emails that I was receiving were I think being generated from cuz they go in and

[3:15:49] see the bid advertisement.

[3:15:57] And then it has the bid under the

[3:16:01] bid advertisement. It has general parameters what they're looking for and

[3:16:04] references in paragraph two, for example, or in the

[3:16:07] project description. The system will be installed in the Coffee County Law

[3:16:12] Enforcement Center in the mechanical room 184. Well,

[3:16:16] that's probably why that's generated questions

[3:16:20] about well, what's mechanical room 184 look like?

[3:16:24] Now, there's it's

[3:16:27] So, that

[3:16:28] » [clears throat] >> has at least a

[3:16:31] picture of the mechanical room.

[3:16:38] » Well, I mean, I think if anybody needs more information than what you're

[3:16:41] supplying there, then they can look. I mean, that's going to be

[3:16:45] » They can come and check it out. >> Yeah, they can check it out.

[3:16:48] » Yeah. >> it out.

[3:16:50] You know, I would expect it. If I'm just bidding it, I want to anyway.

[3:16:54] » Yeah. >> I mean, that is just common

[3:16:59] sense and common courtesy.

[3:17:06] Did you even put in more information in these books

[3:17:09] for us? >> Um I will if I can get some more budget

[3:17:13] » Okay. >> to include that. But if you want to take

[3:17:14] it, you can and I can set up a time >> I'll just wait and then get it the next

[3:17:18] or not let's finalize this next meeting or what?

[3:17:20] » No, no. It'll be in another >> Well, I'm so tired.

[3:17:24] » Uh oh, bad my aunt. >> Yeah.

[3:17:27] » Okay. >> [clears throat]

[3:18:01] » Do you do you still have a word document this cover sheet that we

[3:18:06] can modify or adjust it?

[3:18:10] » I can actually see it. Did you email it to me, do you think?

[3:18:13] » I I don't know actually. I don't remember where

[3:18:17] where it came from. I I can tell you it didn't come from me.

[3:18:20] Did you email it? I have no memory of that part, yes.

[3:18:25] Yeah, but that's the one we That would be the one we need to

[3:18:29] change the the date. That includes

[3:18:35] additional >> These are

[3:18:37] » documents that need to be part of this, too.

[3:18:40] Bid advertisement. And it may be of value to include a

[3:18:46] a sentence that says

[3:18:49] reach out to the county to us to request

[3:18:55] an inspection of the reviewing of the proposed site or something like that.

[3:18:59] That way

[3:19:07] » [snorts]

[3:19:14] » So, we're going to republish it again. It

[3:19:18] also need to go two times, three times.

[3:19:25] » I don't remember when that was sent. That was originally published.

[3:19:30] » Do you mean to go check with the case people cuz I don't show anything here?

[3:19:34] She might have. I'm okay.

[3:20:08] » Is there a date on that top one of those?

[3:20:10] » She took both of them. >> I think she took both.

[3:20:40] This is June 3rd.

[3:21:00] » See?

[3:21:03] What is this?

[3:21:16] Okay. It came from Lisa.

[3:21:21] I'm getting them to mix those shoes.

[3:21:27] » Soak that grain three times four.

[3:21:46] » Okay.

[3:21:51] » So, what kind of wording you want on the motion?

[3:21:55] Like what we had before or

[3:21:59] we need to modify it any?

[3:22:06] » Um the only thing that you might add is now

[3:22:10] you're including

[3:22:16] drawings and a picture of the mechanical room and just an example

[3:22:23] of

[3:22:27] from whatever that company is.

[3:22:36] He got water.

[3:22:40] And then that'll all go as part of somebody requests a big big packet and

[3:22:45] then they can get a copy of that.

[3:23:02] Oh, if you want and I did find out the question about

[3:23:06] McElroy's.

[3:23:09] They they thought what they had previously

[3:23:13] turned in would qualify and

[3:23:16] they were informed that it did not cuz they didn't

[3:23:20] turn it in pursuant to the the application process.

[3:23:27] » Okay. That's what I figured might have happened there is I figured it would

[3:23:30] surely still be anonymous. >> Yeah, it was.

[3:23:33] » Good. >> So

[3:23:36] » So [clears throat] you actually have a a bid

[3:23:38] » I don't know if I have the right one. >> Yeah, you're going to get one

[3:23:42] » Yeah, un- unfortunately they were advised that

[3:23:45] would not uh qualify cuz they didn't follow the procedures.

[3:23:51] » But we at least have somebody that's interested in for sure.

[3:23:53] » Yep. >> Okay, sir several things here. Num-

[3:23:58] number one >> [clears throat and cough]

[3:24:01] » as long as I can get the actual advertisement to bid by the

[3:24:07] middle of the afternoon today, well couple of hours

[3:24:11] I can get it in this week's paper and if you wanted to run it three times

[3:24:17] then uh the last run would be on July 9th

[3:24:21] which means that you could make the bids due 5:00 p.m. Friday, July 10th.

[3:24:28] If you wanted to go that fast on it. Or if you wanted to push it off a week,

[3:24:32] just push it off a week. >> That the 10th is is fine.

[3:24:38] Once Angie has the document I think it's just a matter of

[3:24:43] changing the dates, adding the information, printing it off, signing it

[3:24:47] and then it being sent to [clears throat] uh

[3:24:51] sent to you cuz you have the rest of the packet.

[3:24:54] And then sent out to Rhonda and Economic Economic Development

[3:24:59] to upload it. >> It's [clears throat] already been

[3:25:01] advertised once so that deal that should be adequate. You know, basically giving

[3:25:05] two weeks notice even though that would be three notices.

[3:25:10] » I feel it is.

[3:25:15] » And July 10th? >> Yeah.

[3:25:18] » [sighs] [clears throat]

[3:25:23] » Okay, and then

[3:25:30] » So basically I guess motion [clears throat] be the same as before,

[3:25:33] just change the bid due date.

[3:25:37] » Yeah. >> [clears throat]

[3:25:41] » And change And then change some of the wording on

[3:25:43] the actual invitation to bid. >> What are you changing it to?

[3:25:48] » Well, whatever. That you'll be able to

[3:25:52] be able to see the >> What did you say with that what will be

[3:25:56] included? >> I just have something

[3:26:01] reach out to request an opportunity to view

[3:26:07] the proposed location or something to that effect.

[3:26:49] » And then you want to publicly open and read it July 13th?

[3:26:55] » Yes. Yes. >> At

[3:26:58] 9:05 and that way then you can move on with Emily.

[3:27:07] » We We just We just sent somebody else in.

[3:27:12] » Um well, we were going to do Emily and

[3:27:17] » Yeah. >> Amber.

[3:27:19] No. >> You did the interviews?

[3:27:22] I mean, we're going to Well, we could >> That's next Monday.

[3:27:26] » Right. Okay. >> Um but now the 13th, we put them on on

[3:27:30] the calendar. That was

[3:27:36] » [clears throat] >> Oh, yeah, Amber. At

[3:27:38] » At 10:00.

[3:27:41] » So, we could do her 9:00.

[3:27:45] 7:00. >> Yeah. Open these bids and then go right

[3:27:49] into Amber. >> Yeah.

[3:27:52] Okay.

[3:27:55] And then 5:00, we'll say.

[3:28:08] » Okay.

[3:28:16] I'll go ahead and make this motion and then

[3:28:18] um then we can get on to the next executive

[3:28:22] session and and be done.

[3:28:28] So, I'd entertain a motion to that based upon the recommendation of

[3:28:33] the sheriff to approve the request for authorization

[3:28:37] to solicit sealed bids for the Quadplex Water Softening System project. Bids

[3:28:43] will be due by 5:00 p.m. Friday, July 10th.

[3:28:52] » I'll second that. >> I have Curry moved.

[3:28:55] » Thompson seconded. Any discussion?

[3:28:59] All in favor, say aye. >> Aye.

[3:29:02] » Anybody oppose? Passes 5-0.

[3:29:12] Okay. Yeah, and then yeah, make sure I get the

[3:29:16] wording for that invitation

[3:29:19] by I need it by 3:00 probably. >> I'll get it to you before then.

[3:29:24] » Okay. Thanks. Okay, now what kind of wording do we

[3:29:27] need for this executive session?

[3:29:32] » This will be uh

[3:29:36] attorney-client

[3:29:40] legal advice and consultation regarding

[3:29:49] moving forward with the

[3:29:59] Good stuff.

[3:30:13] That appears to be

[3:30:16] official business, so

[3:30:26] So, legal advice and consultation regarding moving forward

[3:30:31] how to move forward with the

[3:30:39] proposed sale and listing of the North property.

[3:30:52] I'm saying 1 3 4 Old Highway 50. >> That would be good.

[3:31:13] » How many minutes?

[3:31:17] » I'd start with 20. >> 20?

[3:31:20] » Let me see. >> 15?

[3:31:22] » What?

[3:31:26] » Let's Let's do 15. We'll see what

[3:31:29] happens.

[3:31:40] Okay, entertain motion to enter to executive

[3:31:44] session for 15 minutes to include each of the commissioners and county

[3:31:48] counselor Wade B II to the second to discuss matters deemed privileged in

[3:31:52] the attorney-client relationship regarding legal advice and consultation

[3:31:56] regarding regarding moving forward

[3:32:02] with the proposed sale and listing of the north property located at 1 2 3 4

[3:32:07] Old Highway 50, Peabody, Kansas under the open

[3:32:11] Kansas Open Meetings Act KSA 75-4319b

[3:32:19] to to resume in the commission chambers at

[3:32:24] 1 24.

[3:32:28] » So >> Second.

[3:32:31] » Gabe Parker moved. >> I'm sorry, Epting second.

[3:32:34] » Yeah. >> Any discussion? All in favor say aye.

[3:32:39] » Aye. >> Any opposed? 5-0.

[3:32:43] We'll be back at 1:24. >> Under the same name.

[3:32:49] » 1:19. One of them now?

[3:33:05] 1:24 we're back in open session.

[3:33:17] You want to wait for Steve?

[3:33:20] Um Yeah, he shouldn't be but a second.

[3:33:27] We're winding down. >> You got it, huh?

[3:33:30] » Yes.

[3:33:33] I'll need that back, though.

[3:33:41] » This is >> Oh, that's next week.

[3:33:44] » That's what you were going to do with me.

[3:33:46] » Okay.

[3:33:56] » [cough] >> Okay, so last one.

[3:33:59] » We're all here now.

[3:34:02] Based on the the last executive session, um at this point the only update would

[3:34:08] be

[3:34:11] I'm going to reach out to Cameron Roth Bar None Roth Land Brokers to set up an

[3:34:18] initial meeting to discuss potential terms and

[3:34:23] conditions related to bringing Cameron Roth on to

[3:34:30] advertise and assist with the sale of the north property.

[3:34:36] » Through a public auction? >> Through a public auction, yes.

[3:34:42] Okay.

[3:34:46] Anything else on that subject? Anything else at all?

[3:34:52] Next week we'll uh So, we'll

[3:34:56] issue warrants and vouchers and uh go through the rest of the budget stuff

[3:35:01] initially and we have any questions about we might

[3:35:05] bring in some department heads or whoever if we have some

[3:35:08] I think we have time for questions and answers there.

[3:35:12] Um and we'll keep

[3:35:16] complying with the law with

[3:35:19] Okay. Unless anybody has anything else, I guess we'll adjourn at 1:27.

[3:35:29] » Yeah.

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