[0:00] Section 6, the order to start the twenty-eighths.

[0:05] I pledge allegiance to the right of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, the kind of indivisible liberty and justice for all.

[0:54] I have a motion for the board to approve the meeting minutes from August 17th and August 24th of 2026.

[1:03] Any further discussions?

[1:24] Anything I got from Moral County?

[1:26] The Devil's Act.

[1:27] If not, Moral County had written a really good comment, and I'm going to actually kind of steal their outline in the right similar one.

[1:35] I hope to get that done this week, and then if you guys read it in, feel better than you can sign on it, and I'll present it as the Board, not as myself.

[1:46] What's the Board?

[1:47] The comment period for the Forest Revision Plan that's been ongoing for some time.

[1:55] And you said they're not going to make changes as far as what you're talking about.

[2:01] Well, that's not, that's yet to be decided.

[2:03] And so the Forest Service Recommendation is planned too.

[2:08] That's the one that I'm going to recommend and that would be a very, very little change.

[2:14] Very low, no more wilderness area, no closed roads, more logging, less restrictive logging, less restrictive grazing.

[2:26] I've seen so

[2:34] many ways, hopefully, within a couple of days that don't be on the genius desk if you can keep

[5:24] it right into the comedian, I think he might beat Disney.

[5:27] It's talking about, so he went to this store and the news opened 24 hours and he gets there and they close it and they said, I thought you were open for everything.

[5:34] It goes, not in a row.

[6:09] So,

[6:12] to do that, I needed to change job descriptions, to bring me a little bit because they're related

[6:17] to that physical system.

[6:19] You can't basically be innocent, but.

[6:23] That's what makes me nervous is the nepotism thing.

[6:27] So, did you list the job?

[6:28] post it or whatever. I did when I hired Kyle again. I had one other happy.

[6:43] I understand it's a small community with a small layering pool but we just have

[6:47] to really guard the nepotism. No I get it and Brittany won't be super nice or boss or anything like that.

[6:53] I'm hoping to be sure. How do you say that? I mean obviously that's going to happen. How does this happen?

[6:58] But that's not she's not bossing around. She has her question. Yeah and she's not going to do her

[7:04] performance evaluation, anything like that.

[7:06] The

[7:11] only change is striking that she reports to your legal system, and now she reports

[7:18] as a beauty.

[7:19] Correct.

[7:20] And Britney's had to change from supervising the victim witness at campus now.

[7:27] So, Britney didn't actually say that?

[7:29] Oh, it didn't.

[7:30] It says that she trains her and provides guidance under the prosecuting attorney, and I thought

[7:37] we need to say that.

[7:39] Yeah, that's not possible.

[7:44] And the victim's advocate one was already reporting to the prosecuting attorney.

[7:50] It was prosecuting attorney slash legal assistant.

[7:55] So we just struck that one, so yeah, so really it's just and when I reached out to HRCC

[8:00] for one of her reason, they didn't even have that legal assistant as a supervisory role.

[8:08] So I don't know who put that on there, like white guy added, because that wasn't HRCC's recommendation, and that's why the legal assistant wanted to say anything about supervising him.

[8:31] This is already a position that was filled.

[8:34] Right, it was just that goes to position.

[8:36] She resigned, so I'm filling that position.

[8:40] You have a temporary person in and then when a regular person resides, he wants to fill it.

[8:52] In fact, I'm saving you money because I think you should keep that up.

[8:57] See if you could make that become contagious.

[9:01] Trub.

[9:08] Having vocalized the nepotism concern, I'm willing to move that we...

[9:13] This is a higher motion.

[9:15] that we've changed that we strike legal assistant from the reports to portion of the job description for legal assistant and victim witness advocate.

[9:28] Okay, there's a motion before the board to record that motion.

[9:33] There's a motion before the board to approve the amended job description for the legal assistant and victim witness advocate position.

[9:42] Any further discussion?

[10:00] We have a table from the

[10:06] party's side, one for Rebecca.

[10:08] Perfect.

[10:08] And there should be one for Andrew, because he laughed.

[10:12] I have a card to sign that, one for her face.

[10:14] And I just don't have that.

[10:18] There are two.

[10:19] So I don't need a fact about the 60s.

[10:20] Yeah.

[10:36] And I shall be eligible for a benefit.

[10:38] Yeah.

[10:40] Okay.

[10:41] Any of these, man?

[10:41] Any name?

[10:42] Let's start at his location.

[10:44] I know you said you had quarter something.

[10:45] You got like 10 minutes?

[10:46] I do.

[10:49] If we could do a executive session for potential litigation, maybe he could update us on that.

[10:55] It was any intel on my letter that we got.

[11:01] Is that the Dean's second session next week?

[11:03] That's the Dean's second session next week.

[11:05] Okay.

[11:05] And that's with Council.

[11:07] Okay.

[11:07] So that's all that's good.

[11:09] And first.

[11:11] So in the mean time, so we just wait a week?

[11:14] Yeah.

[11:14] Okay.

[11:15] You will have way more information about how the actual litigation is going than I do.

[11:19] Yeah.

[11:20] But yeah, that means next week is with council.

[11:23] Okay.

[11:24] All right.

[11:27] Look, everybody's still letting me.

[11:29] I always tell you to throw them in jail.

[11:31] Throw them in prison.

[11:32] Yeah.

[11:33] My inmates are down to two.

[11:35] You know,

[11:38] I do not have a warning doctor tomorrow.

[11:41] Prissy said she can't remember the last time in those days.

[11:44] Even after a long weekend.

[11:46] I have no adult balance in custody tomorrow.

[11:59] one's way in trial and one is just the way in saying same thing as a sentence on the 23rd, and I hope you don't want to present one way around.

[12:09] So it goes to the big house on the bar, but you won't.

[12:13] So I'd say to approach my name, tell me.

[12:17] Because it's in trouble.

[12:27] The

[13:01] one in the street, I don't do it, since I've changed it to that.

[13:03] The one that I picked up the tree green is the quarter of 10 days.

[13:05] It's been on the kids' calendar.

[13:08] What do you prefer to do?

[13:09] To see all of them.

[13:12] You don't press your up on the neck when you push into it.

[13:17] This one or the other one you're flying on eating today.

[13:20] I didn't try that.

[13:22] Yeah, I just push a little bit and see if it gives in.

[13:25] It does.

[13:25] And it's good to go.

[13:28] But you'll only talk about wire pairs.

[13:30] The ones that are coming down the pipe line.

[13:33] Perfect varieties.

[13:35] Yeah, now we're coming into the week to start taking those.

[13:39] I don't know, just because I don't know about that heritage here, yes, but a few of the

[13:43] times from my back in April game a little earlier, or everything was really, like, very

[13:49] smooth.

[13:51] Blackberries weren't one of the things that they were.

[13:53] I never got any, I mean, I ate lots, but I only put, like, one gallon in the freezer.

[14:01] So, yeah, and some of the coffers, I don't think, it's more to be such a cup, but I don't know

[14:06] of the blackberry combo makes the ice cream better and the ice cream makes the blackberry

[14:10] combo better.

[14:10] It's a wonderful new relationship in this long room.

[14:14] You know what else?

[14:15] Do you think a candle could kind of have it filled it up with ice cream?

[14:18] I have.

[14:20] I like that pretty good, too.

[14:24] It doesn't really do anything for me, but I enjoy that ice cream.

[14:27] It's not ice cream.

[14:28] It just doesn't pop out.

[14:30] Yeah.

[14:30] Another question about apples driving through to here is, I see two different kinds of

[14:37] trolls.

[14:39] The single, up and up, the other one is like this, and every other tree is a tree.

[14:47] What's the, why do you want to get out of here?

[14:50] I think those such aggressive stuff is straight up to now, it's a single axis, and it's just

[14:57] just go on down the road and next to the monts and the...

[15:00] There's stuff on it. About 11 or 12 degree acts. There've been just about like that. There's the differences, as they plan more trees to the apron. But those are the ways we call the system. So we're going to be able to.

[15:19] Yeah, you're looking at about.

[15:28] It's about two feet apart, trees are about two feet apart, maybe two and a half.

[15:35] There are thousands of trees there.

[15:37] When you put in the two feet trellis, it's just like not.

[15:40] They're a little bit less.

[15:42] They're probably closer to two feet apart.

[15:45] But on this axis, they're four feet apart.

[15:48] So the branches on those only have to go.

[15:50] There's a tree that goes this way.

[15:51] and so the branches go to feed before they rise into the branches from the others to get more,

[15:58] they're intercepting more sunlight, they get more tiny, or maybe neither.

[16:03] The coolest thing would be to do more money.

[16:07] They've got twice the infrastructure in there.

[16:10] They've got twice the cost, twice the wire, almost twice the trees,

[16:16] and you're getting incredible world-class night.

[16:25] Nobody's that lower-clung-up base in particular

[16:28] that base and more of the same river and the Columbia River come together. There's a lot

[16:35] of geekiness down there. They can get tonnage like no other. We can't decay and pretend

[16:41] to even come close up here. At

[16:47] least we don't have the climate to have about

[16:50] 14 days really

[16:52] on the front end of their growing season. That marked the end. It's truly growing seasonally.

[16:57] The growing season ends in standard, later ends in fall. These are taken for a long

[17:02] length into the private putty. Thanks for letting us know that in the years we've

[17:08] called Billy. I grew up in London more in

[17:20] the morning than just the

[17:25] ice in it, and

[17:30] I've

[17:30] been able to publish this book.

[17:55] Here to Garrison is just a cap stop to let bells up.

[18:03] They're

[18:04] We've got one every five acres or how much propane did they take because they're heated, right?

[18:10] Really straight people aren't heated. They're just in there. They're just out of there.

[18:13] We're doing good. So if there's propane there, it's just to run a generator around the windmill. I've seen them with propane things in place.

[18:20] Yeah, they all have a propane tank next to them. I mean, we'll remember them before the meeting. Yes, they all have big engines in there.

[18:29] I think it's probably a 21-foot play on the top of the map.

[18:40] We knew people that the furnace and the hot current situation

[18:44] was contained in it's play for me or me long.

[18:48] For me to learn it all, had to be 24 or something.

[18:53] Super short here.

[18:54] You don't have to play about that big round or about that long.

[18:58] So you drive your hot down.

[19:00] We're going to look at people building up a stand that's going to look more popular, and they just do this in order.

[19:08] So after all this time, we're going to pick up all the furniture, all the ornaments and orchards.

[19:14] They're going to be useful as well.

[19:16] This mountain pulled back to the hot killer.

[19:19] We're going to be in the truck of all.

[19:22] Yeah, there's some innovation.

[19:24] and better ask that he'll let us down there.

[19:27] This is a lot of those guys for you.

[19:29] So that helps to stop on stun through

[19:31] and make their thoughts and pages.

[19:34] I'll fill you with a word.

[19:35] I grew up 10 months more for coming to the Rosenberg station

[19:38] this year.

[19:40] And the big four of each of the great inspiration

[19:46] here are the left part of their vineyards

[19:48] for a lot of water.

[19:51] Now that the station is this year,

[19:52] it's going to be a little bit better.

[19:59] They didn't grow in the crop, they just got to realize that there's a lot less people

[20:04] trekking veritums.

[20:07] The market has a little advantage, you know, that is good.

[20:11] When I was in ballpark in high school, there were four hot bars in the world, and a whole world.

[20:16] You know, if you had a contract to pay me an interest free for

[20:20] all these matters, if you didn't have a red book of the thing,

[20:24] you took the amount, now it will grow your crop.

[20:32] I'm being...

[20:32] That breaks it, right?

[20:37] Sure.

[20:39] Yeah, what is it?

[20:41] That breaks.

[20:42] How bad is it, I mean?

[20:44] I don't know, I didn't think that it's going to be that bad,

[20:47] but then...

[20:48] But then when you say something to will,

[20:51] he was like, that's a whole person.

[20:52] Yeah, yeah.

[20:52] I'm like, oh, you're right.

[20:55] But the month we didn't sell my bed, so it's had one at 3.78 percent.

[21:06] I'm leaving this afternoon, this afternoon, this afternoon, this afternoon, to go to

[21:11] an Angie for the WCNF meeting tomorrow, for 9 to 3, and so I'll have all that, when I

[21:20] come back on Thursday.

[21:21] But as of right now, it looks like what we can expect from Delta, Dental is going at 5.4 percent.

[21:28] Well, I'm it's going up 5.9% BSP standard and EAP are all staying the same.

[21:36] Can

[21:38] you jump for help that does use it as staying pretty close?

[21:41] The reason for you stay?

[21:52] Get the WCRG.

[21:59] There go.

[22:00] I can go up there the week of the 27th at 3.3

[22:08] .4.

[22:08] I don't think I'm up there.

[22:10] And though we typically have a pretty hard estimate then.

[22:16] In my short tenure, I've never seen it go up after their estimate.

[22:19] and it typically goes down a tag.

[22:22] And if they give us a whatever percent they give us,

[22:24] what typically go down a little bit, but not much.

[22:29] So we'll see.

[22:30] I'm certain he'll be an increase there, at all.

[22:33] Well, I think we're still making the right choice,

[22:37] being with PEP for medical,

[22:41] because active members

[22:45] for medical, for WCIAP, for Kaiser, it went up 19%.

[22:52] and primarily not 13.9% so we are like way low with that I mean that's pretty

[23:01] yeah yeah

[23:20] so I think we're

[24:07] Oh yeah thank you. I don't regret this. It's the same when you scan this reader. Oh I didn't scan it. Oh however it is.

[24:19] If I could, I'd just gotten white good. Thank you. I have not sponsored any of that.

[24:26] So everybody ready for this week?

[24:29] I am. Are you all? Yes. I think it might have been by scamp or tuna.

[24:37] I don't have super a lot, so for the month of August, it looks like they dispatched 577 log calls,

[24:47] 67 fire calls and 94 EMS calls for everybody, so for the law firm firing the EMS for all three districts

[24:57] and then the law of course that's city and county, so it's pretty pretty busy month.

[25:05] I would say it's probably up from normal a little bit.

[25:08] I think in the summertime, medicals will pick up after a new niche because it's hot, it's

[25:14] like in the wintertime, first thing in the morning.

[25:16] Somebody goes out, they slip and fall, it kind of just varies on the time of the day.

[25:21] And then of course, the fire calls.

[25:23] We had plenty of fire calls.

[25:25] I think we can probably check that box and just go ahead and move along for the fire calls.

[25:34] What else do we have for her recently?

[25:39] I've been quite busy, which I'm ready for a business manager to start.

[25:46] It's good to be seen.

[25:47] I am ready for that anytime that she would like to just rely on.

[25:52] I am okay with it.

[25:54] That's not ready.

[25:55] Got a new keyboard.

[25:56] So we don't have that same keyboard.

[25:59] I mean, you guys have been in there.

[26:00] Anybody?

[26:01] I think it's been a bit.

[26:02] One of those really loud.

[26:04] What was the loud?

[26:05] I know it had actual keystrokes to it.

[26:08] Yeah.

[26:08] It was very loud.

[26:10] It was about

[26:19] calling or you know,

[26:22] on the back.

[26:23] I had to make out it done Friday late afternoon.

[26:26] Evening had this.

[26:28] My brain was pretty loud.

[26:29] You see in numbers in your sleep?

[26:30] Yeah.

[26:31] Those aren't my strongest suit anyways.

[26:34] So it seems to be a little bit loud.

[26:52] It has a cool weather and a little bit of rain, it's still growing, but it's growing

[26:59] minimally, rather than several hundred inches.

[27:02] I think within the footprint of it, I think they're content they have it in the office.

[27:07] Yeah, it's

[27:10] not going to be out until snow and the whole body.

[27:13] Yeah.

[27:19] I was going to say it's usually not works for me.

[27:29] Yeah.

[27:30] You don't tell me it doesn't get better or sorry.

[27:36] Oh, I finally got a complaint form out to everybody.

[27:42] I saw that, have I saw a couple people respond to that?

[27:45] Can you forgive them?

[27:46] I'm getting constructive.

[27:53] I have thought it was.

[27:57] One,

[28:05] I'm going to be spending some time with somebody because I'm just going to divide myself.

[28:12] Chunko?

[28:12] It spends some time with somebody but I think it'll be okay once I spend a little bit of time.

[28:22] That was the last thing that I was forgetting about.

[28:29] And I don't drink lots of coffee and walk fast.

[28:32] My advice always was walk slow and drink lots of water.

[28:38] Great.

[28:38] That's more summertime things than a fair time things.

[28:43] But stay down there.

[28:46] It's got to go back and forth.

[28:48] I don't know about that.

[28:51] I suppose that depends who you ask.

[28:54] They tried to off me in this morning.

[28:56] They had nothing.

[28:57] I shouldn't even include all of them.

[28:59] It's just one child.

[29:00] I've gotten some kind of industrial,

[29:02] something that hooked it to the chain link fence,

[29:04] metal block.

[29:06] And then took a piece of actual rope

[29:09] and put it across the driveway

[29:11] in front of where I go to feed the buddies

[29:14] and I picked it to my lawn chair. So it was just strong across the driveway and I'm walking.

[29:19] Oh, that's a booby drive.

[29:21] It was about this close and I went, what?

[29:24] I knew exactly who it was and he'd already caught on the bus and I'm sure...

[29:28] Well, now we know who it was, you only have one of his head description.

[29:31] Well, I'm sure if he finished it and bring it on to the bus, he was like,

[29:34] man, I wish I was going to be there to see when that just...

[29:39] Well, he wants a bunker and a above ground bunker.

[29:43] So maybe that's the start of the above groundunker.

[29:46] He started taking the back table apart.

[29:48] He's building them out, so to speak.

[29:49] Well, it started taking the back table apart, too,

[29:51] and we're like, you can't just take the wood.

[29:55] This is a similar back table and make a bunker.

[29:57] But I don't get it.

[29:59] Engineers.

[30:00] I, you know, there's got to be something, we'll just be an expert at taking care of it. Yeah. Oh, and I'm off Friday. Okay, I did respond. That's okay. Usually I try. I'll learn to find it because I'll be there too. Yeah, usually I try it. Okay, I'll go. I'll come back. I'll go and I'll come back. One of these years, I'm going to figure out that I just need to like take Wednesday Thursday and Friday off. Thank you.

[30:34] Thank

[30:40] you.

[30:41] Thank you.

[30:42] Sure.

[31:10] Is

[32:12] that even someone who wants people to be able to or do we want to make a short, and

[32:18] if you don't call it by another member, it was like 12, and this is one of the favorite

[32:24] comments in 48 years, something where

[32:38] we give people, where they can ask.

[32:43] When I had spoken last week in like, like using Jason, for example, who lives out of town,

[32:48] it has a pretty important job.

[32:50] If he should be called in, it's outside of his normal office hours, it's not unreasonable to pay him my money.

[32:57] I'd rather have been longer than that than provide him the money.

[33:01] He's expected to drive the work five days a week, but if he has to come in on Saturday or something,

[33:06] you know, whatever.

[33:06] If he has to make a special trip, it's not unreasonable to pay him my money.

[33:09] Right.

[33:11] And that isn't but a bit for the county.

[33:13] I mean, that's, it's cheaper to pay some on my list than it is to give them a car.

[33:19] So, that's

[33:27] the right question.

[33:28] I'm pretty good.

[33:31] As short, well, it doesn't really matter how long the policy is planned.

[33:34] But if that's the right answer, we're looking at a wackware in RCW that says these are the criteria

[33:43] or maybe it's the best practice.

[33:44] It's the best practice.

[33:46] Yes.

[33:47] For the criteria.

[33:48] Basically, these are the criteria for someone to get a take home vehicle.

[33:52] Oh,

[34:04] because we never ask for that.

[34:05] We haven't asked for that.

[34:06] Yeah.

[34:10] And then the Frenchman said, that's also going to be part of that.

[34:16] But I know in there it said like, if you feel like you think you might qualify even though

[34:21] you don't think this criteria is even asked for one.

[34:24] So I didn't know if we wanted to take that out and just, if you don't think this criteria,

[34:29] you don't get to take home your phone, we would have to pay you my list, then give you the

[34:37] because most of the time when people are getting called out are coming to the county first,

[34:44] their place of work first before they're going to wherever, they're going to work wherever they're going is their work.

[34:52] But Jason, if something happens, they're going to be going to go to the courthouse,

[34:58] That's why it's here and we just take the camera you did on that side of the screen.

[35:02] Yeah.

[35:07] I can see the preview

[36:02] of this.

[36:02] How did I read this on it?

[36:04] On my email over the weekend.

[36:08] Her job review.

[36:09] I think she sent that on.

[36:11] Yeah, Thursday and Friday.

[36:13] Okay, so that's gonna see you.

[36:15] She just now gave it to you.

[36:17] Yes.

[36:18] Yeah, this is a purchasing thing.

[36:19] But I read it home.

[36:21] I'm gonna know it's the same stuff because it's the same stuff.

[36:26] Yes. She sent out Friday.

[36:36] That's what it means. Yeah, it's just off the board.

[36:41] He's around somewhere on

[37:46] the committee and so I'm hoping that maybe people that word can have some can let me know.

[37:54] So I had a question about

[37:59] on our salary wage matrix.

[38:03] We have several

[38:15] jobs that are on here

[38:19] that we don't have job descriptions for.

[38:23] So I don't know if there was a reason for that,

[38:27] or if we were supposed to have.

[38:29] So for instance, we have a maintenance worker one,

[38:33] maintenance worker two, maintenance worker three,

[38:37] maintenance worker five.

[38:39] But

[38:43] we don't have job descriptions for all those maintenance workers.

[38:46] There's not a position that we currently have fulfilled with.

[38:51] I don't have a job description for it, so I don't believe so.

[38:57] One of the reasons probably the main reason those are all there,

[39:03] is because there is a concern in

[39:12] the ability for people to advance in their careers.

[39:14] You know, because that's something people like, you know, they're moving up in position,

[39:25] especially in the county where apartments are very small, right?

[39:29] So staying within apartments.

[39:32] Sometimes you have to leave to find a better position, whether that's in the county or there's nothing wrong.

[39:42] There was a great opportunity.

[39:51] That was why, to give people down a chance to add some space in there so people can move

[39:57] up in their department in a tidal orbit without having to either leave the county or

[40:02] search departments, which is why Christy built those in there, wanted to put those in there,

[40:07] So that there was some opportunity for growth.

[40:10] Now we haven't really filled that, I mean, or even built the JavaScript.

[40:15] I don't know what the plan was for JavaScript.

[40:17] But that's why those are in this case.

[40:20] Which makes sense.

[40:22] But then my next question is, who, what and why?

[40:28] Does someone who, like, is there at a position?

[40:32] It was a change enough that there's a new responsibility added

[40:36] Or some element of leadership added to I don't know to that. That's what it was. Oh, so like you do go

[40:42] If you hit if you do the same job you do day one for the whole career you won't move from one place to another

[40:50] But if you're advancing in a new skill or a new area of

[40:56] Responsibility then you could shift into the number two position

[41:08] Okay, so there is a, so

[41:23] we have a building inspector slash code slash fire,

[41:31] but then we have a senior.

[41:37] So what if

[41:40] this job number changes, how does he become a senior?

[41:46] It might be years of service.

[41:54] It could be, there was a department crew where they needed to hire a new person and someone

[42:01] had to supervise.

[42:02] That would move up a new senior or number two or whatever, I don't know if the senior

[42:08] is a three or two.

[42:09] I don't see what you're looking at, but we have to be some change or added responsibility

[42:14] in the position.

[42:17] And

[42:28] so when you see that, they say, well, how do I become a senior building inspector?

[42:39] Because right now, I'm just a building inspector, I want to become that senior.

[42:44] So that's where...

[42:46] It implies a multiple person department which we don't have need or want for.

[42:58] So that depends on the department head deciding what the needs of the office are.

[43:06] There may be, I mean as far as this specific example, maybe there's an added service that

[43:10] currently is not offered, that you have to learn or be trained to do and then you add another

[43:16] element of that.

[43:17] I don't know exactly where that would fit in a specific example, but it is some kind of

[43:21] an added job role that switches you from a one to a two or some kind of a added

[43:27] responsibility or supervisory goals or or maybe there's a more rather than just

[43:33] being the one thing you're going to assist the department head in or their job

[43:38] maybe there is the too busy at a certain point and they say okay now you're

[43:43] going to be trained to do this as well. So there's some kind of a change in the

[43:48] and the job responsibilities to do that.

[43:52] And if it never happens, there's no need for it.

[43:55] If it never happens, then that's you have your life

[44:00] until long-termity I guess is when it changes next year.

[44:04] So you're getting questions about it.

[44:05] Actually, people come in and ask you and about it.

[44:15] But I would say send them to...

[44:17] Yeah, with the percentage of people, send them to me.

[44:20] I don't know, too.

[44:21] Also, I mean, instead of having it separated for each different position that we have a two or a three

[44:27] It may be like the commissioners can approve something that's like a cave in order to move to this two

[44:34] Not particularly that position, but just in general. These are what the, you know, your

[44:39] Hull patients would right and then and that way we have something right and so we have something that they go off of

[44:46] But it's not having a job description for each different position

[44:50] So that's a lot of work for it, especially for something that may not even have a budget for it.

[44:56] Yeah, so I'm saying move up to grades. That's it.

[45:00] What's I'm saying? Just having something that's written that shows like this is why we have it and in order to qualify for this two or this three of this position, you have to have this assistance. That way they have a better understanding on how they would be able to move into that one, but also understanding that it might also not happen. And it's not like it's being offered to someone else, but it's just depending on what your role is within that position that you're currently in.

[45:28] That's possible. I would say that that would be something for the department head to have a lot of input and it's not going to be.

[45:35] No, I'm just saying it isn't that you get something that even would review.

[45:39] So the department head should be, I mean, we should be aware of that and maybe have an idea of what a two looks like and a three looks like.

[45:48] Even if you don't have a position, maybe I wish I wasn't have an idea of what it takes to get there.

[45:54] And it might be different for each department.

[46:04] If the department heads says this person's doing more

[46:07] than they were hired for.

[46:09] You come to us and tell us.

[46:11] All right, then they can decide that they need

[46:13] a two position and then we create a job description for it

[46:16] and see what they have.

[46:18] They would have to work out the details of that thought.

[46:20] So let's see how at this point of hearing me down

[46:25] so that it's not in there until this needs to be done.

[46:28] It's a nice thing.

[46:42] So what if it doesn't exist as a job description?

[46:51] If

[46:56] it ever happened, it may not even land on that line any more after five years and maybe

[47:04] on a different grade.

[47:05] That's what I was thinking, but if we were removed it then would we keep fish?

[47:10] I don't know if we can just keep a back copy that says here's what it would be if it did

[47:16] exist because I mean it's a document, it's a public,

[47:23] like you said, if we just left it

[47:25] for five years and not updated and then we have to basically do all the work again to re-create

[47:30] it. I don't know if I just want to go away at least as far as the way we met the exercise

[47:36] I want to just do as this. So it keeps up with the way time trips as we go through the

[47:42] years.

[47:50] And I know Michelle is working on giving me a list of employees that we have and what

[47:56] their current job duties honor so we can figure out how many. Just looking, there's, I

[48:09] mean

[48:09] it's working, there's like the dispatcher one, there's several levels of that.

[48:21] The GIS, there's

[48:23] several levels of that. The GIS, type 2, 3.

[48:32] Actually, if you talk to Grant about this too,

[48:34] Those, I mean, ground was very instrumental in taking the entrances in

[48:52] the issue of

[48:53] different values.

[48:58] I'm going to get away from what's just having differences

[49:08] in pay between people who

[49:10] had similar styles of, I mean, obviously, nobody has the same job, but the same category

[49:16] of position like this department says, I'm going to hire, I'm going to, I'm going to give

[49:21] this person a bigger raise because they have more responsibilities.

[49:24] At least, this person basically does the same job in a different department, but doesn't get the race.

[49:30] So, this was a way of quantifying, you have to come to the commissioners and justify why this person is being paid more than that person in the office that they basically do, not the same job, but a similar style job.

[49:42] So, these were the similar style jobs instead of this range, and so there was some kind of oversight there, so it didn't get this department gets paid way more than this department.

[49:53] So then I would say to get a lot of jumping between departments at that point because it was just a way to make it public, basically, that I'm going to pay this person more for this reason, and I had to be a state of reason for it.

[50:09] They can't just be this person's doing a great job so they're getting paid more.

[50:12] Wait, we think this person's doing a great job too, but they're not getting paid more because their department is different, so that was the whole idea of this.

[50:20] right which I understand that I just wasn't sure when I had that question brought

[50:29] it to me about well how do I become the next position I'm like wait a minute

[50:33] have a next position so that's where the stem difference

[50:42] maybe I don't know I

[50:48] think the answer of how do I move to the next position is a question for the

[50:51] department had at least in as much as they would have to be the driver of that.

[50:59] Right, we would have an input into it, but I don't think we should write it for

[51:04] the department heads. They need to know, they need to decide what their next

[51:08] position would look like. But it has to be some kind of a shift in the responsibilities

[51:12] of job. Like if you're adding, you're adding a amount to your job, that's possible.

[51:17] As

[51:28] far as why they exist, a futile job description is because at this point we don't have need for it.

[51:37] At the time we need a job description, we're a great one.

[51:41] Unless you want to go through a job description for each job that doesn't exist.

[51:49] But as far as removing them, I'm not opposed to it.

[51:53] But I do think we should have them a

[51:57] method of re-inserting them with need.

[52:00] Well, I don't, I'm not against leaving them. I just need to know why

[52:07] I kind of thought that was the reason so you could move up because we don't have a lot of movement available.

[52:20] But I was like, we're kind of saying something exists when it really doesn't right now.

[52:28] The

[52:46] job exists because it has a job description and the physician created by the commissioners

[52:51] or does the job exists because it's on the side of the interest.

[52:54] Great.

[52:55] An example of that would be like deputies that are spot by deputies and if we would choose

[53:01] to only fill seven of them, there would still be job description.

[53:04] But the position exists because under the job description, I just turn it.

[53:10] I think of it that way.

[53:12] If the job description exists, the position exists, even if it's empty.

[53:17] If it's on the salary matrix, I don't necessarily see that as this is a job we have.

[53:22] It's just, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong with that.

[53:26] And maybe we just need to tell the farm employees that, like, just because you may see the next step on the matrix doesn't necessarily mean that we have that job available.

[53:39] That's how I would answer it, but again, I could do wrong.

[53:41] I'm going to show how the good suggestions is marking those on the matrix that currently do not have job descriptions.

[53:48] So therefore do not.

[53:49] Right.

[53:49] Is this putting a foot in on my head?

[53:51] Like an asterisk or something?

[53:53] Like an asterisk or something?

[53:58] The position, like an asterisk or something.

[54:09] There are some asterisk.

[54:11] To

[54:22] change the way to matrix every time a person changes the position,

[54:29] That's what it would mean if we started moving on.

[54:31] Yeah, just to sum this up, those people changed for us.

[54:34] That used to get nervous.

[54:35] And the job was getting us every week and right.

[54:39] And then, like, oh, we changed this job description.

[54:41] So now we have an abstract saying.

[54:43] This position no longer-

[54:44] Yes, like it's just-

[54:44] It's going to be in constant.

[54:46] It will be in constant change.

[54:46] No, constant change.

[54:47] It will be in constant change.

[54:51] Maybe we just put it just clear on the top.

[54:54] Not all positions on the way.

[55:00] I'm

[55:06] just leaving him whatever grade that they're currently in, but that way it's

[55:11] going to be just once a week. There's a reason why you're not in that position.

[55:17] Oh,

[55:24] that seems fine. I'm just kind of like, I expect to exhibit at the wall.

[55:33] Sorry, get your mind into it right here.

[57:18] There's no further business before the board and this meeting is adjourned.

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