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call the we're going to open the meeting
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here at 8:22
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and um
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the first order of business
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is to review the minutes of October 7th,
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2025.
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» We got a first
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>> second.
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All those in favor approve the
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minutes.
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>> 300.
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>> Financial statements. Warrants. Shelley.
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>> Uh, since the October 7th meeting, 38
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warrants were signed electronically
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totaling $235,79.66.
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I did send you the general fund expense
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report. There's nothing new to be
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concerned about. We have about $180,000
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left to get us through the rest of the
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year. So, we're closely monitoring the
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accounts to make sure that we don't have
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any major overages and we can balance
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the budget, but right now things seem
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like we're in good.
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>> Excellent.
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>> Thank you so
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um hope everyone got my Sunday.
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>> Y so transition back was great. Student
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absences were really following. It's
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been pretty low. the January highlights.
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Not a whole lot to report as we enter
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the new year assessments coming up. So
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by the next uh school committee meeting,
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I'll be able to provide information on
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the data. Um but we have some great
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things to come work
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and I also include
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for you.
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Sweet. Thank you. Thank you.
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All right.
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public comment.
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We have Kate in the room. No one's
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storming down the door. All right. And
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un business is none. And then we got a
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cat's butt on the screen.
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And all right, new business. And this is
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actually the big business of the
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meeting. So as we cruise along here, but
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is the budget discussion, the initial
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discussion of the budget. So um
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share
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and then explain.
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» All right.
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I'm going to go through this
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really quickly. Um
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there's a lot of good info for us to
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talk about, but this is just the first
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pass. And the nice thing about Conway
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whose town meeting is not till June. So
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we have plenty of time to go through the
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budget process. Technically we have a
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March vote on the calendar. Um if we're
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not ready to make decisions by then we
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can push it off. So um Conway's not in
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the worst shape out of the elementary
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schools this year. Can you get to the
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We're going to start talking about level
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service budget as we always do. Um, all
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of the elementary schools are above 5%
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for level service budget. So, just as a
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quick reminder, level service does not
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mean level funding. Uh, level service
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means that we've replicated staffing and
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programs from the prior year in the new
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budget, but there's always for at a
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minimum wages for COLA. So, the level
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service budget comes in at 5.71%
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or just about 133,000.
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These are the different expense
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categories captured within the budget.
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And you'll see these categories in your
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monthly expense reports, which is why I
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present the budget in the same way. You
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can see in the far column uh the total
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growth there. Uh the growth would
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include wages and non-wage expenditures,
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which we're going to break down in the
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next couple of slides. But overall, um
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it's right now about a 50/50 split as
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far as what the growth is, whether it's
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wage or non-wage. And we don't typically
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have a significant level of non-wage
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growth at Conway Grammar School, but
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there is one thing impacting us this
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year. So the next slide we're going to
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talk about uh wages. So let's look at
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that first. Of that 5.71%
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3.04 is who the wage obligations. So
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we've taken into account all of our
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non-union staff and contracts. So,
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secretary, custodial, cafeteria, um,
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anyone else on the ground that's not on
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the the unit A or the unit C contract,
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and then administrative renewals, which
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would also include Conway's portion of
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central office expenses. On the right
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hand side of the slide, you can see the
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primary driver of the budget growth at
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about 58,000 is contractual obligations.
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So, that has to do with year two of the
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contract. um teachers are receiving 4%
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if they're on the top step. Otherwise,
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if it's step plus cola at three, they're
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seeing 6.22% growth. And we do have one
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faculty member who has advanced their
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degree, so they'll be moving a column as
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well, which um results in a larger
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increase. And then, uh unit C, all of
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our IAS are funded outside of the
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general fund in Conway. So, IAS are
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seeing wage growth, but it does not have
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a general fund impact, which at the
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moment, this is what we're talking about
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when we look at our budget for level
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services. It's strictly the general
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fund. All I will move up. We added a new
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step. There's a 2 and a half% cola plus
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about a 3% step. So, IAS will see a 5
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and a half% growth in their wages. And
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then we added $6,000 for summer stipens.
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That's based on the prior year services
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we provided. Um the structure of our
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summer programs has changed a little bit
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and the need to find a higher level is
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necessary. Plus the contract grew um
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particularly in the teacher contract.
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>> Pleasure to say hey Phil I'm going to
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mute you if you don't mind. We're
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getting some feedback from you. So just
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be sure you unmute when we can talk.
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Okay.
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>> The hourly rate changed for teachers in
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the contract with the new contract that
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we negotiated. So that's causing some
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growth in our wages as well for summer
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programs. So we're not necessarily
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adding staff or growing the program.
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It's just covering existing needs. So
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the remaining uh two and a halfish% if
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we go to the next slide Darius is
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related to nonwage obligations. We don't
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normally see significant growth here
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unless there's some major change with a
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funding source or a contract. We're
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seeing the growth under student services
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which is our transportation line. It's
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not actually a growth in the cost of our
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contract outside of the two and a half
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percent which only totals a couple
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thousand dollars. However, we did fund
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part of our transportation costs with
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rural aid in the current year. Conway is
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ineligible for rural aid in um the new
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year. So, we are going to see a shift in
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that expenditure. So, again, not an
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increase in the actual cost, just a
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change in the funding source.
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>> Right. and Conway lost the rule aid
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designation because the average income
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of the town went up. So somebody moved
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into town that was making money in order
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for that move that way. They must make
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significant amount of money. That's that
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millionaire
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>> Yeah.
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>> conversation we had in the past. But
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that is one of the indicators in rural
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aid is the amount of the
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>> the income level of the town.
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>> Crazy
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>> which is the general, right? And so if
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you take a small town and you increase
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it by
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>> one or two very wealthy people, which is
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my guess because
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>> yeah,
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>> I don't think 30 people moved in with a
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slightly higher income, which you would
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have to do.
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>> And I don't think that the enrollment
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numbers changed enough. So rural aid and
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chapter 70 have to do with enrollment
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and income in your town or wealth of
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your town. Um the rural aid formula is
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slightly different because it has to do
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with um students per
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uh I don't know what the right word is.
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I can't think of it.
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>> Um
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>> what's that?
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>> I don't know if it's square mile. Maybe
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it is. It has to do with you know the
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size of your town.
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>> Um
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>> so I don't think enrollment is the
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factor here. And Conway has received
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rural aid for years.
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>> Oh no, it's been confirmed it was
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income. Yeah, they wrote me a note.
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>> They must know.
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>> They wrote me a note and said that.
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>> Um, so this really is a growth to our
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budget and we talk about not using
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unreliable consistent funding sources in
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all of our budget. We anticipated that
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Conway would be eligible for this again.
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Um, and you know, it could come back in
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the future, but for next year it's just
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not going to be a funding source that we
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have access to.
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>> So that's one component here. and
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$32,000 is over a percentage point. 1%
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is about $24,000. So, um it's it's
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pretty significant growth. The other
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impact here is the central office health
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insurance, which we've had conversations
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about in the current year. So, because
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we're seeing an overage in 26 that we
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did not have budgeted from that October
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1st increase, that's going to come into
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play in 27 automatically. We're going to
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see growth of 20%. and we have a
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placeholder, even though we do not know
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what the rates will come in at, we have
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a placeholder of 20% growth again in the
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budget. Um, so that's a $30,000 increase
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right there. So, we wouldn't normally
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see this type of expenditure um on our
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budget in a typical year. We would have
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had to deal with the rural aid challenge
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no matter what, but this is another, you
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know, 1.25% or so that we're having to
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absorb. So, it's causing some
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significant budget growth that we can't
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really escape from. Um there's not an
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alternative funding source for us to go
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to for those two pieces.
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Any other questions before we keep
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going? All right.
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Um so just revolving funds at a glance.
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Uh you can see school choice is growing.
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That is primarily because we pay our
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sick buyback for teacher retirements out
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of school choice. That's estimated at
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about $60,000 for next year. Um I'm
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comfortable with this number. We're
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still at a healthy balance. I want to
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say we're at about $400,000 even after
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these expenditures. So, we're in a safe
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place there. And then you can see
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minimal growth in all of the other
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grants that we utilize in revolving
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funds, which is primarily related to
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wages. There's no non-wage growth in
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these expense categories. And then the
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rural aid, you can see zeroed out. So,
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even though we don't have the rural aid,
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because school choice is up with the
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sick buyback, we are spending more than
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we did in the prior year from grants and
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revolving funds.
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Next slide shows the total budget. Uh
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you can see we're at almost three and a
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half million that 5.71% for the general
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fund plus revolving funds and grants and
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then our total.
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>> Okay, Mr. Modesto.
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>> Yeah, I have that Madden thing now. I
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can do that.
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>> So what does that look like for cost per
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pupil? You can see our cost per people
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at 146 students which does include
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resident and school choice enrollment
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which is remaining relatively flat from
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the prior year. We're down a couple of
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kiddos um which is basically school
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choice residents are staying about the
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same from the prior year but we're at
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roughly $24,000 per student.
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And next we're going to talk about
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principal's budget. So part of our
[11:20]
process is always considering new needs
[11:22]
and initiatives on the ground here in
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the building. things that Kristen thinks
[11:25]
we might need um outside of capital
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expenses, just regular day expenditures.
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It is pretty minimal um but it does
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equate to about a half a percentage
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point. So, we're looking for an
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additional $9,500 which is mostly for um
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split about 50/50 curriculum textbooks,
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which is primarily um consumables for
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our new curriculum that we've rolled out
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in the last couple of years. Uh we're
[11:50]
seeing an increased need for workbooks
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and things of that nature. Laura is
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going to see if she has an alternative
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funding source so that we can keep this
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request down. Perhaps she has some other
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grant that we can tap into that we don't
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really rely on for general fund
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purposes. Um we are still trying to
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assess whether or not that consumable
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need is a year afterear expenditure or
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if it's one time. If it's one time, then
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we could pull the money from school
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choice as well and just buy what we need
[12:20]
and then not have to inflate our budget.
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Special education contracted services is
[12:25]
exactly what it sounds like. People that
[12:27]
we bring in service providers to meet
[12:29]
needs of our students in the building.
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We are seeing a growth in that area.
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Everyone's rates are going up. Um needs
[12:36]
of the students may change. So we're
[12:37]
looking for an additional $5,000 there.
[12:40]
So that brings our total budget request
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with principles plus level services to
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5.8. 81% at just over $135,000.
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What's next? Enrollment. So, enrollment
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is down slightly in this slide for
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projected um compared to the current
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year at 146. I expect that we'll see
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this go up. Kristen does an excellent
[13:03]
job of making sure she can balance
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school choice. However, part of the
[13:07]
decline in enrollment here is because of
[13:09]
our Wings program. So, if you remember,
[13:11]
we talked about Wings last year. Um,
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we've had a hard time finding a solid
[13:17]
teacher replacement in that program um,
[13:19]
since June and Tracy retired several
[13:22]
years ago. And rather than taxing our
[13:26]
existing staff any further, we've made
[13:28]
some conscious decisions internally to
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not replace the sixth grade students who
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are leaving the program, which I think
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there are four or five.
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>> Um, so that is going to see we'll see a
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drop in enrollment there. However, I do
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think there is potential for K and preK
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possibly um particularly kindergarten
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and maybe to add some new school choice
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students in there. And this is just
[13:51]
based on what we know of the census. So
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those numbers for K and preK are
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estimated. Um so those could change
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slightly as well. So I expect we'll
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probably be around 140 instead of 135.
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» Moving ahead, we are looking I think
[14:06]
just at historical information and just
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some other thoughts for us to consider.
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So Conway's budget prior to the last two
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years has been pretty reasonable. Um I
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think the 2 and a half 3% is where we
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would like to be. In 2025 we had the
[14:23]
increase in transportation. Um and
[14:26]
similar to this year where we don't have
[14:28]
another funding source to put that on,
[14:29]
we grew the budget which was almost a 5%
[14:32]
increase. In 2026 the growth is related
[14:35]
to the loss of ESSER funding. So we had
[14:37]
used ESSER to supplement the budget in
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the prior year. We don't have that in
[14:41]
the current year. So that grew our
[14:43]
budget by 5.25%.
[14:45]
So the pass will be at three years now
[14:47]
if we move forward with over 5% in the
[14:50]
current year. So that's something that
[14:51]
we should talk about. Last year it
[14:53]
really wasn't an issue because Conway's
[14:55]
portion of Frontier's budget was down
[14:57]
like $200,000. So there wasn't an issue
[15:00]
to increase the elementary school
[15:02]
budget. We don't quite have a sense yet
[15:04]
of what's going to happen with
[15:05]
Frontier's budget. The state chapter 70
[15:07]
is not out yet. Um, so we haven't looked
[15:10]
at assessment and Frontier's budget, if
[15:12]
you've read the paper or watched the
[15:14]
school committee meeting for fun. Um,
[15:18]
the the level service budget was around
[15:20]
9%. Am I remembering that right?
[15:23]
>> Yes.
[15:24]
>> 8%ish. Um, about a million dollars was
[15:27]
what was in the paper for growth on the
[15:29]
budget itself, which is significant.
[15:31]
Usually, we're around 300,000. So, um,
[15:34]
it's going to be a taxing year across
[15:36]
the board. And the town is going to see
[15:38]
the health insurance increase on their
[15:40]
side as well. Not just for school
[15:41]
employees, but any other town employees,
[15:44]
DPW, fire, police, town offices. So, um,
[15:47]
it could be a more challenging budget
[15:49]
season for us. We might have to be a
[15:51]
little bit creative in how we navigate
[15:54]
next steps.
[15:55]
>> Yeah. I mean, to run off with Shel said,
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we'll know the state's budget on the
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23rd, that Friday. The governor is going
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to um present it and that that'll give
[16:04]
us the the cherry sheets, the
[16:05]
assessments for the town. So, we'll know
[16:07]
where Frontier does is is nowhere near
[16:10]
ready to where they're going to land on
[16:11]
their numbers, but we'll know the
[16:12]
assessment numbers so we know how each
[16:14]
of the moves will affect what the town
[16:16]
can afford. Um, and then we'll have a
[16:18]
general idea of what kind of income the
[16:19]
town got. Um, and so at the same time
[16:22]
and then start talking with them and so
[16:25]
um about where it all ends out. So, it's
[16:27]
kind of really it's premature um these
[16:29]
percentages the percentages this year if
[16:31]
we came in oh 4%
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um depending where you know Frontier
[16:36]
lands and depending where the town lands
[16:38]
we really there's we don't have enough
[16:40]
information to know if it's a good
[16:41]
budget or bad budget based on previous
[16:43]
numbers again because of healthcare
[16:46]
>> um the healthcare increase and again
[16:48]
Shelley said you know Frontier's budget
[16:50]
it was a half a million dollars increase
[16:52]
and we usually grow the whole budget by 300,000 so that just on healthcare.
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So, um you know, we don't we just don't
[17:00]
know how that impacts the town, what
[17:02]
their liability is going to be for that
[17:04]
increase.
[17:05]
>> One of the towns picked up the town like
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it's like it just we just don't know. I
[17:09]
think is it was it Sunderland got dinged
[17:11]
last year?
[17:12]
>> Sunderland's had a couple of big years.
[17:14]
Um Conwayley was a little bit high too.
[17:17]
Deerfield enrollment is declining for
[17:19]
Frontier, so they'll probably see a
[17:21]
decrease again.
[17:22]
>> So, yeah. Yeah, it looks like No, it
[17:24]
looks like Sunderland it looks like
[17:25]
Sunderland's going to get a hit again
[17:28]
>> because their enrollment is going up
[17:31]
compared to everybody else's which is
[17:32]
reducing. So, um yeah, it's going to be
[17:37]
interesting. And with how Frontier
[17:40]
works, just one assessment is very
[17:42]
difficult to sometimes it's very
[17:44]
difficult to drop
[17:46]
how much that town has to give based on
[17:49]
the assessment. It doesn't it's not it's
[17:51]
not smooth in the sense of like let's
[17:53]
say we're going to increase the budget
[17:54]
at Frontier for $500,000
[17:58]
the percentage of a town paying you
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could reduce it by 300,000 and they're
[18:02]
still paying a greater percentage um due
[18:05]
to what the state says they can afford.
[18:07]
So it gets um there's still a lot of
[18:10]
work to do in the budget season and
[18:13]
it'll be interesting with our four towns
[18:15]
what the town's approach is going to be.
[18:18]
Um, I just have the conversation now
[18:20]
because in the sense of like is it a
[18:22]
year that they're going to try to do
[18:27]
um, you know, Prop 2 and a half to try
[18:30]
to increase slightly more because you
[18:32]
you're they're going to have the problem
[18:34]
for multiple years. You're going to see
[18:35]
insurance at 15 to 20%. As you as we
[18:39]
talked to the experts for next couple
[18:40]
years before it it reassures itself. So
[18:44]
towns just can't afford that based on
[18:46]
their current um way income that they're
[18:49]
getting on, you know, growth. There's
[18:51]
not as a lot of growth in towns based on
[18:53]
residential. So,
[18:55]
>> and they're going to hit get hit in the
[18:56]
same way we are with central office. So
[18:58]
even if they have free cash that passes
[19:00]
out of town meeting to fund this year's
[19:02]
overage, it's not built into the budget.
[19:04]
So they're going to see a multi-year
[19:06]
increase next year. Yeah, that's and
[19:08]
that's kind of my my thought process is
[19:11]
a appreciate the groundwork now knowing
[19:13]
that not everything's set. We're going
[19:15]
to see some more things change, but like
[19:18]
if it's an ongoing expense, you can't
[19:19]
sweep it under the rug one year because
[19:21]
then you have to like you just said, you
[19:22]
have a multi-year increase the next
[19:24]
year.
[19:25]
>> Yeah. So,
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>> yep. And so, and excuse me. And so, our process on this is January is just
[19:33]
is like introductory. This is a class,
[19:36]
this introductory class of let's this is
[19:38]
what the numbers are and then the next
[19:40]
class will be we'll we'll add up on top
[19:42]
of that. We'll kind of refine those
[19:44]
numbers, add more information to it and
[19:46]
we'll build build our budget. All right,
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Phil, I see you unmuted.
[19:50]
>> Yeah. So, um just first of all, you
[19:53]
know, every every year I am I am so
[19:54]
impressed with your budget presentation
[19:57]
and your budget uh the work that you do
[20:01]
on it. I just want to say that before I
[20:03]
get into specific questions which um the the the health insurance thing of
[20:12]
course
[20:13]
you know all these all these things are
[20:15]
not problems of our making they're just
[20:18]
things we have to deal with. Um but the the the
[20:25]
you know the the newspaper articles etc
[20:28]
covering these questions have been
[20:31]
brutal. the the the school districts
[20:33]
that did opt out of the Hampshire Trust
[20:37]
the um saying that it was hiring
[20:41]
consultants that were quoted as saying
[20:44]
it's insane to stay in it and um you
[20:47]
know you can't just do nothing and
[20:51]
>> um the the
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>> what's that?
[20:55]
>> So we have the announcements coming over
[20:57]
the intercom from the school right now.
[20:58]
>> Okay.
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>> Um
[21:00]
>> so let's pause. Let's pause for 30
[21:02]
seconds.
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>> All right.
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>> Because we're pledging
[21:07]
and to theublic
[21:10]
one nation under God, indivisible,
[21:14]
liberty and justice for all.
[21:17]
>> At high grammar school, we follow the
[21:22]
community agreement. We take care of
[21:29]
our material
[21:33]
environment.
[21:34]
We take care of ourselves. We take care
[21:39]
of each other. Today is Monday, January
[21:43]
12th. Lunch today is grilled cheese. A
[21:46]
water beneath and and and
[21:51]
the water
[21:53]
and bubble means someone is very kind
[21:56]
and brave and brave and you look up to
[22:00]
them.
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>> Happy birthday to
[22:05]
Robin.
[22:07]
>> It's now time for the morning meeting.
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» All right, Phil. Grilled cheese for
[22:14]
lunch.
[22:16]
That's okay.
[22:18]
>> Um, so, so you know, and I guess this pertains to Frontier, but it also
[22:22]
pertains to town hall. You know, is are
[22:25]
we going to have
[22:27]
the ability during our budget
[22:30]
presentation at town meeting to
[22:33]
talk about what we're doing proactively?
[22:39]
uh be it be it you know any of the
[22:42]
options that we've discussed previously
[22:44]
the going our own way joining the GIC
[22:48]
whatever um are we going to be able to
[22:51]
have something to say about that this
[22:54]
aspect of our budget besides just we're
[22:58]
sticking it out and seeing what happens
[23:02]
>> yeah I mean I think uh so a couple
[23:03]
things one is the so some members have
[23:06]
left the trust But to put it in
[23:09]
perspective, I think it was five or six
[23:11]
towns and they equal 3% of the
[23:14]
enrollment of the trust. It was 3 and a
[23:15]
half% or 3.2%. So a very small number of souls have left the trust. Um and we
[23:24]
haven't seen the numbers from the state
[23:25]
about what um which the GIC is going to
[23:29]
go up percentage-wise, but we are told
[23:31]
it's going to be double digits. They're
[23:33]
getting hit just as hard. and um Maya
[23:36]
for those you know communities in Maya
[23:38]
they're looking between 15 and 20% that
[23:40]
we're hearing. So I think you're going
[23:42]
to see 20% across the board no matter
[23:43]
who you're enrolled with. Um so anyway
[23:47]
so just just kind of a clarification of
[23:49]
that out there. They're not saying that
[23:50]
in the paper because I don't think
[23:51]
anybody's told them that. Um
[23:54]
>> the we have met and Verique would have
[23:56]
to talk for the town of Conway about
[23:58]
what they're doing. I just happen to be
[24:00]
in meetings with her where we have work
[24:02]
working on a having a backup plan should
[24:05]
the trust continue to have issues and we
[24:08]
need to withdraw and um either
[24:11]
self-insure or do a um what do they call
[24:14]
it a group?
[24:17]
>> It's not a group purchasing. It's
[24:19]
>> it's coming together. It's not group
[24:21]
purchasing but you're working with
[24:22]
others to
[24:23]
>> do whatever. So, we have had that
[24:25]
conversations with um insurance uh
[24:28]
vendors, so to speak, so that we have
[24:30]
that lined up should we need to move.
[24:33]
So, that backwork is being done. But I
[24:35]
can't talk for the town of Conway
[24:36]
because
[24:38]
>> I'm just, you know, knowing that they're
[24:40]
in the meeting
[24:41]
>> to have those backup plans in place. So,
[24:44]
>> so the other thing with health insurance
[24:45]
is the GIC window has passed, right? you
[24:48]
have until December 1st to make your
[24:51]
letter of commitment and then they gave
[24:52]
an extension of January 5th and none of
[24:56]
our towns that are with the trust or
[24:58]
Frontier have opted to go with the GIC
[25:01]
the states program. So that's not that's
[25:03]
not a choice. So really the options
[25:05]
right now are sticking it out with the
[25:07]
trust
[25:08]
>> um which hopefully the trust will have
[25:12]
preliminary numbers at the February
[25:14]
insurance advisory committee meeting
[25:17]
which doesn't
[25:20]
for Conway it's not an issue because
[25:22]
your budget meetings aren't till June.
[25:24]
So the town has plenty more time for
[25:26]
Frontier it'll be more challenging
[25:28]
depending on when those numbers come in.
[25:30]
Um the other towns Weightley and
[25:34]
Deerfield are
[25:37]
Deerfield's April so they have some time
[25:40]
too. Um so we'll be able to have more
[25:42]
conversations about it, Phil. But
[25:45]
staying with the trust really would be
[25:47]
the most beneficial for everybody
[25:49]
involved. It's just a matter of what
[25:51]
does that look like structure-wise
[25:52]
moving forward.
[25:55]
And so and also understand so that those
[25:58]
who have left they have to pay their
[25:59]
runoff.
[26:01]
>> Um and the state has allowed the state
[26:04]
has allowed them to take on debt um with
[26:07]
new legislation but they're still got to
[26:09]
pay the bill. They're just going to
[26:10]
spread that bill out over several years.
[26:13]
Um so basically what I mean by the
[26:15]
runoff is that is once you leave um the
[26:19]
trust stops paying for your bills. So
[26:21]
anything that's in cycle you got to pay
[26:23]
out of pocket and so and you could
[26:26]
depending on unless you really I don't
[26:28]
know how people can survey their
[26:29]
membership because you can't just look
[26:31]
around the room because they're also
[26:32]
talking about spouses and children those
[26:34]
plans. So I mean you can be paying off
[26:36]
hundreds of thousands of dollars.
[26:38]
>> Um and so they got to find the money for
[26:41]
that as well to leave. So there's a part
[26:43]
of us like you know um you know trying
[26:47]
hoping that you know there is some
[26:49]
hoping that the trust works out. Um but
[26:52]
we also are not naive enough not have a
[26:53]
backup plan. Like I said we c we have
[26:55]
something called a parachute plan. So if
[26:57]
things do not go well um we have a plan.
[27:00]
It's going to cost money. Um but it
[27:02]
won't be as bad. People will not be
[27:04]
without insurance. It's the number one
[27:05]
thing. We're going to take care of our
[27:06]
people
[27:07]
>> and you know to there will be some
[27:09]
expense but um you know I it's uh
[27:15]
the details of those plans are those
[27:17]
we'll if we need it right I'm not going
[27:18]
to take the parachute out right now.
[27:22]
So I I I guess my point in all this, one
[27:25]
of my point is that um this is going to
[27:28]
be I um my prediction is that this is
[27:31]
going to be the the main issue budget at budget, you know, at at town meeting
[27:37]
and um you know, it's going to require
[27:42]
significant amount of explanation
[27:45]
uh um which is difficult to do in that
[27:49]
setting. These are complex issues
[27:53]
and Jesus um and the uh you know does
[28:00]
the does the trusts uh
[28:04]
new consultants you know are we going to
[28:06]
be getting presentations from them or
[28:08]
anything like that u um any any
[28:12]
>> I don't they will present to the
[28:15]
insurance advisory committee which is a
[28:18]
public meeting and open for anyone to
[28:20]
attend and Verinique and Shawn have been
[28:24]
attending those meetings. I know that
[28:25]
because I see them on the roster. Um
[28:29]
there may be opportunity for the
[28:31]
consultant to have meetings with
[28:33]
individual units if they so desire. We
[28:36]
haven't really broached that yet, but I
[28:38]
do think it is up for discussion. The
[28:40]
consultant is incredible. The amount of
[28:43]
information and support and feedback
[28:45]
that the trust is getting is
[28:48]
>> nothing like I've ever seen before with
[28:50]
the prior executive director. Not that
[28:51]
Joe did a bad job. I just think the
[28:54]
tools in the toolbox were not as
[28:56]
expansive and we're getting a lot more
[28:58]
analysis and information and data. Um
[29:01]
I'm less concerned about the renewal
[29:04]
component than I am about the financial
[29:07]
piece as to whether or not we actually
[29:08]
have enough money to make it to July
[29:10]
1st.
[29:11]
>> Yeah. without some other dramatic
[29:14]
change. So, uh, we're going to get a
[29:16]
renewal, whatever that looks like. If
[29:18]
it's 20%, 25%, we're not escaping that.
[29:22]
As Darius said, we're seeing that across
[29:23]
the board with my end and the GIC. So,
[29:27]
um, the renewal I don't think is
[29:29]
necessarily the issue, but being able to
[29:31]
explain the October 1st increase, which
[29:34]
is going to hit your budget next year,
[29:37]
and the new increase, it's going to have
[29:39]
to be talked about. And you know, I I
[29:41]
would think that people in the community
[29:44]
are aware.
[29:45]
>> Yeah. I mean, we'll I mean, we'll we'll
[29:47]
deal with town meeting when town meeting
[29:49]
and you know, I mean, Shel and I will be
[29:52]
there. We probably speak
[29:54]
>> in the community probably speak the
[29:56]
strongest on understanding it because
[29:57]
we've been really deep for a year. Um,
[30:01]
>> and if people I mean people either
[30:04]
understand or not understand it. They're
[30:05]
going to point fingers, but we didn't do
[30:07]
it. Um, you know, you know, it's like
[30:10]
it's insurance across the board. And
[30:12]
that's the other thing that's the only
[30:13]
thing I can see is is I guess comforting
[30:16]
within it is that we're seeing 20%
[30:18]
across the board. So, it's not just the
[30:20]
trust. The trust keeps getting hammered.
[30:22]
Everybody's getting hammered and the
[30:23]
trust is still market value a good a
[30:27]
good buy um in comparison to the other
[30:30]
plans. And so, when that comes out of
[30:32]
whack, then people will have the we'll
[30:34]
be on a hotter seat. If that if that
[30:36]
comes out of whack, we'll be on a hotter
[30:38]
seat. But
[30:39]
um
[30:40]
>> I I I you know and that's all well I I
[30:43]
think though that um because of our
[30:46]
institutional structure and the need to
[30:48]
sort of get four towns
[30:51]
lined up behind the budget before town
[30:54]
their town meetings. Um the I I think
[30:59]
you know having that consultant me
[31:02]
address a joint committee a joint
[31:04]
meeting of our school committees would
[31:06]
be beneficial um just in in terms of
[31:09]
educating people and um give giving the
[31:13]
communities as much information and
[31:16]
knowledge as possible. But um
[31:19]
>> yeah, I think um I don't think it's a a
[31:21]
wrong idea. I just think we need to have
[31:23]
what are we educating them on first? And
[31:25]
so the frontier budget um you know is in
[31:30]
holding until the next month,
[31:32]
>> right? Um so the February meeting will
[31:34]
be um I use the word fireworks but it'll
[31:37]
be fireworks in the sense of um we'll
[31:41]
have the numbers and we'll have the real
[31:44]
uh ask the towns and then we're going to
[31:47]
have to make some decisions about what
[31:49]
level of reductions are going to be
[31:50]
needed in order to meet you know where
[31:53]
the towns stand because again right now
[31:55]
we don't know we don't know how much
[31:57]
money the towns have even even if our
[31:59]
asks are reasonable you know what I mean
[32:01]
we don't know, you know, I mean, they
[32:03]
may have an idea, the towns themselves,
[32:04]
but it'll be a it'll be public when the
[32:07]
governor puts the budget out. And that's
[32:09]
kind of everybody I think everybody
[32:10]
holds their cards close until after the
[32:12]
governor's budget comes out. Um, and for
[32:14]
the first time, you know, at Frontier,
[32:16]
we usually don't go public um with the
[32:19]
budget until after the assessments. But
[32:21]
we did similar to today, we wanted
[32:24]
everybody to have the information so
[32:25]
that the February meeting can go right
[32:27]
into discussion and not have people say,
[32:30]
"Explain to me where school choice is,
[32:32]
explain to me why world aid is, explain,
[32:34]
you know, so we have all those numbers
[32:36]
already came out at that last meeting."
[32:37]
So
[32:39]
>> yeah and I I think you know looking at
[32:43]
the the topline budget information these
[32:48]
I I you know I think Darius your your
[32:49]
earlier comment about how historically
[32:52]
3% is a good number to come in at that
[32:54]
is that has proven to be correct and we we regularly hear from residents that
[33:00]
that's a number that people are
[33:02]
comfortable with. Um and but it at the same time the needs are the needs
[33:08]
and um that's that is an arbitrarily an
[33:14]
arbitrary number and I always have a
[33:16]
hard time
[33:18]
saying no ignore ignore the needs and go
[33:21]
with an arbitrary number instead. That's just not the way we should be
[33:26]
doing business. But um
[33:29]
>> right, the one thing I I also want to
[33:30]
make sure is that as we if we have to
[33:32]
make reductions and such, is the plan
[33:36]
more than a one-year plan?
[33:38]
>> You know what I mean? And so that's
[33:39]
going to be the conversation also at the
[33:41]
frontier level is that if you know so
[33:44]
you know schools can reduce their
[33:47]
services, right, if the town's people
[33:49]
want that, right? It's your school
[33:50]
districts um and so forth. But will we
[33:55]
be in the same boat next year about how
[33:56]
we're funding it? Right? And so, um, you
[34:00]
know, if if we're expecting insurance to
[34:02]
go up again the following year, what is
[34:04]
going to be the expectation the
[34:05]
following year? Because you can only you
[34:07]
can only cut so much services before um
[34:10]
either people walk and try to find
[34:12]
services elsewhere um or we start
[34:15]
providing a product that's not the
[34:16]
standard we want. So um as a community
[34:20]
so
[34:21]
>> which here has a huge impact because of
[34:23]
the number of school choice students
[34:24]
that we have right so we want to make
[34:26]
sure that we're providing strong
[34:28]
programming and strong services so that
[34:29]
we can continue to bring in
[34:32]
>> um outside students can you go back to
[34:34]
the enrollment slide just to look at
[34:36]
that quickly
[34:37]
>> double down our problem right yeah
[34:40]
services and we lose that funding we get
[34:42]
from that
[34:43]
>> you know if you only had 89 resident
[34:45]
students your fifth grade class would
[34:47]
seven students if we didn't have the
[34:49]
school choice. So, you know, there's a
[34:52]
lot of negative talk about school choice
[34:55]
in communities. That's not the case in
[34:57]
Conway. It really enriches what the
[34:59]
school has for a community. Um and it
[35:03]
allows us to have stronger programs and greater offerings. So, um we have to
[35:08]
be careful with how much we actually cut
[35:10]
back. Um can we go to the last slide
[35:13]
just to finish up?
[35:15]
>> Uh one more.
[35:17]
Okay. So, just reminders andformational.
[35:20]
So, we're looking at 5.881
[35:22]
with level services plus the principal's
[35:24]
budget and uh the level service
[35:27]
breakdown. About 3% of that is wages. If
[35:31]
that was our only challenge right now,
[35:32]
we'd be in a really good spot. We could
[35:34]
handle a 3% wage growth increase with
[35:37]
the contract, which is rich, and we
[35:39]
settled at really good places for our
[35:41]
staff. Um, but we have the rural aid
[35:44]
challenge of losing $30,000 roughly in
[35:47]
rural aid and then we have the central
[35:49]
office health insurance challenge. So
[35:51]
those are the major drivers. So the
[35:53]
conversations will continue internally
[35:55]
as we go through the process to see and
[35:58]
weigh, you know, if we did cut back an
[36:01]
IIA, what does that look like based on
[36:04]
programming to help? Because cutting an
[36:06]
IIA would help fund 1% of the budget.
[36:09]
Um, but we have really have to look at
[36:12]
what that impact is across the board.
[36:14]
Level service, um, I'm sorry, 1% budget
[36:17]
increases, $23,000. You can see the
[36:20]
breakdown of our full-time equivalent
[36:22]
staff for unit A and unit C. The one
[36:24]
comment I want to make about the IAS is
[36:26]
that we did take into account um, with
[36:30]
the wings number wing students
[36:32]
increasing that we will have some
[36:33]
reduction in IAS because they were
[36:35]
serving as oneto ones and those students
[36:37]
are no longer in the program. Um the
[36:40]
wings conversation is bigger because
[36:42]
what is the long-term impact of not
[36:44]
having that program should we not be
[36:46]
able to find a teacher which we are
[36:48]
going to post for is that correct? You
[36:50]
said that you were going to post just to
[36:52]
see if anything wonderful comes in
[36:54]
because if we did get a really strong
[36:56]
qualified teacher that specialized to
[36:58]
meet the needs of students, we could
[37:00]
bring in tuition in students again which
[37:03]
you know there's a lot of things to
[37:05]
consider here. I think for me budget
[37:08]
wise the primary one is if we don't have
[37:10]
a specialized program we're at higher
[37:12]
risk for not meeting the needs of
[37:14]
resident students which results in an
[37:16]
out of district placement which could be
[37:18]
4050 $60,000
[37:20]
>> which is multiple percentage points. So
[37:23]
we'd really like to keep the program
[37:25]
thriving if we can. Um so we'll continue
[37:28]
those conversations. Sick buyback is
[37:30]
justformational purposes. Um we have
[37:32]
that paid on school choice currently.
[37:34]
And then we talked about the health
[37:36]
insurance. So, um, lots of things to
[37:39]
come and we'll have more in February,
[37:42]
right?
[37:43]
>> I mean, we we say that the sick buyback,
[37:45]
sick pay buyback isformational.
[37:48]
It's on school choice, but if it wasn't
[37:50]
on school choice, something else would
[37:52]
be. Um,
[37:54]
>> yep.
[37:54]
>> And you know, again, our sick pay
[37:58]
buyback contract provisions, which were
[38:01]
done many years ago, many years ago now,
[38:04]
um, are are probably the most for the
[38:08]
union, the the most lucrative in the
[38:11]
state. Um, way out of line with what the
[38:13]
state average is. Um, and again, you
[38:17]
know, the the the the
[38:20]
light at the end of the tunnel is that
[38:22]
there is a expiration date to these.
[38:24]
It's still I don't know how many years
[38:26]
away. Not enough. Um, but
[38:29]
>> too many.
[38:30]
>> Yeah. Um, but that this is
[38:32]
>> that's still that for for two employees,
[38:35]
that's a brutal number.
[38:37]
>> Just a budget wrecking number. Um, so
[38:40]
thank goodness for school choice for
[38:42]
that reason alone. But um it's that's just that's just bad
[38:49]
>> bad terminology. That's a problem we
[38:51]
already own, right? And I think this the
[38:53]
beauty of that school choice funds it's
[38:56]
a it does have an ending sight whereas
[38:58]
some of those other budget pressures are
[39:01]
ongoing or or even more significant
[39:03]
moving forward. So
[39:06]
um say it can be used for something
[39:08]
else, but I don't want to use funds like
[39:10]
that for anything that's not oneoff at
[39:12]
all.
[39:14]
Yeah. All right. So, that's where we are
[39:17]
with the budget since I'm sharing this
[39:19]
thing here. Um, and so
[39:23]
beginning of the discussion. So, the
[39:24]
next thing on the agenda is uh the
[39:27]
school improvement plan. So, you know,
[39:30]
usually we approve this much earlier in
[39:31]
the school year that the scheduling of
[39:35]
things um wasn't great. And I kind of
[39:37]
talk about this. So you guys had got
[39:38]
this plan a few months ago um just so
[39:41]
that you knew what we were already kind
[39:43]
of working on and Kristen's going to go
[39:45]
through it.
[39:46]
>> Oh, so I sent it out again yesterday. I guess I'll start with does anyone have
[39:49]
any questions or I know you're really
[39:52]
good at looking.
[39:55]
Do you have any questions, Phil?
[40:01]
» No, I've always thought these are pretty
[40:03]
good. Oh,
[40:06]
>> any uh
[40:08]
>> do you want you want to just do any
[40:09]
highlights on it so far? You don't have
[40:10]
to go through the whole thing, but
[40:11]
>> I'm sorry. Yes.
[40:12]
>> I don't Yeah, I never like one. So, we
[40:15]
have Elaine was here. She's like, "Don't
[40:16]
you dare read us a document we should
[40:18]
read."
[40:18]
>> Um but just kind of any is there
[40:20]
anything highlights on that stuff so far
[40:21]
this year?
[40:22]
>> Yes.
[40:22]
>> Just to put you on the spot.
[40:23]
>> No, no, no, no. The the main goals I
[40:25]
mean there it's hard to have goal one,
[40:27]
two, three because they're all sort of
[40:28]
equal. um uh foster school culture where
[40:32]
students sat and families feel valued,
[40:34]
respected, and connected. I mean, when
[40:36]
you when that's when all the hard work
[40:39]
can come is when you have that. So,
[40:41]
that's always front and always appears
[40:44]
on our school improvement plan.
[40:45]
Diversity, equity, inclusion is goal
[40:48]
number two with the action steps that
[40:50]
we'll be taking for that. Um and then
[40:54]
academic achievement and growth. So
[40:57]
under each goal we have many many
[40:59]
activities but we felt like those were
[41:01]
the three major areas um for school
[41:04]
improvement plan and we also want to
[41:05]
make sure that it's um doable within
[41:08]
because they change from year to year.
[41:09]
I'll make sure we like to see at the end
[41:12]
done done done even though some of them
[41:14]
will continue obviously they're
[41:15]
continuous but those are all major
[41:18]
focus. Thank you.
[41:20]
>> Any questions on the school improvement
[41:21]
plan?
[41:23]
Um, it is. You do have to vote to
[41:27]
approve to accept it. So, I'm going to
[41:31]
need a motion in a second.
[41:32]
>> A motion to accept it.
[41:34]
>> Second.
[41:35]
>> Have a first and second. All those in
[41:37]
favor?
[41:39]
Three up.
[41:42]
Um,
[41:44]
the next thing on the agenda is appoint
[41:46]
member to superintendent agreement
[41:47]
subcommittee. So, um, a few couple
[41:51]
years, three years ago, we created the
[41:53]
superintendent agreement, um, to help
[41:56]
create language on the hiring, um, and
[42:00]
dismissal of the superintendent because
[42:02]
our regional contract was, um, the UN 38
[42:06]
uh, regional agreement doesn't exist in
[42:09]
paper. Um and so we put that together so
[42:11]
that um you know should you have to hire
[42:13]
a new superintendent eventually you will
[42:16]
um there would be figure out there would
[42:18]
be a system of how to do that. Um in the
[42:20]
agreement it says every two years we'll
[42:22]
review it. Um there was talk about u
[42:25]
maybe we should start adding to it kind
[42:27]
of slowly create a 38 agreement at least
[42:31]
in some of the operational stuff and
[42:32]
this came out of the chair's meeting. um
[42:34]
things like the calendar, you know,
[42:37]
let's say we go to the count, we do it
[42:38]
at the joint meeting. Everybody in the
[42:40]
past has just kind of um worked together
[42:44]
um which is which is good. But what if
[42:45]
you had what if say Conway said, "We're
[42:48]
not coming back to school. We are
[42:50]
adamant we're not coming back to school
[42:51]
until after Labor Day. You know, you are
[42:54]
your own governing body. You could do
[42:55]
that." And there was and then the rest
[42:58]
of the district would be in a pinch
[43:00]
because you were on the same bus
[43:01]
contract. You know what I mean? there
[43:03]
would be a lot of work um on that. So,
[43:06]
we want to kind of create stuff maybe
[43:09]
again some of the smaller kind of things
[43:10]
like how do we vote the calendar and put
[43:13]
that in there? How do we vote and some
[43:15]
of these other kind of things and so
[43:16]
anyway to do all that we need a
[43:18]
subcommittee to do that work? Um, and so
[43:20]
I'm looking for a
[43:22]
>> So can I can um can I can I just ask a
[43:25]
question at the threshold here? Um, and
[43:28]
because the the rationale that you just
[43:30]
advanced, these are these are the
[43:32]
rationale. I mean there's so many more
[43:34]
of these specific examples.
[43:36]
>> Yep.
[43:37]
>> That are applicable. And all of these
[43:40]
rationale spoken and yet unspoken here
[43:42]
today are the the ration for going
[43:46]
full-on K through 12 district. Yep.
[43:49]
>> Um and the more
[43:53]
in one sense the mo the more we
[43:57]
take these issues peacemeal
[44:01]
the less
[44:03]
um the less incentive the less energy
[44:06]
there will be going forward to really
[44:10]
address all of the root cause for all of
[44:12]
these. So that's just an observation. I don't it are are we
[44:20]
you know yes these are our institutional
[44:23]
defects um but is not the best way to
[44:28]
address our institutional defects to
[44:31]
really address all of them rather than
[44:34]
peace meal. So,
[44:38]
>> um, yeah. So, I hear I hear what you're
[44:40]
saying. My counter to that would be the
[44:44]
problem with the regionalization
[44:45]
conversation is money.
[44:48]
And so, it's money and insurance and so
[44:50]
forth. And so, um, where these are the
[44:53]
non-monetary issues that, um, you know,
[44:57]
I hear what you're saying that, you
[44:59]
know, you're going to fix those or if
[45:01]
you can figure out the monetary stuff,
[45:02]
then you would have everything in place
[45:05]
on how an idea of how things run
[45:06]
together. So, I mean, I hear what you're
[45:09]
saying, but
[45:12]
you without solutions to this, we're
[45:14]
going to have more you could have some
[45:15]
major problems if
[45:20]
» So, Anyway,
[45:21]
>> I'm not chair. I'm just chair.
[45:25]
>> So, we need a committee member for this.
[45:27]
>> We need a committee report.
[45:29]
>> And normally Elaine could appoint
[45:31]
somebody if
[45:36]
I do it if none of you want to, but
[45:41]
» if one of you wants to.
[45:43]
>> What does the commitment look like? When
[45:45]
and where? Where? I imagine there'll be
[45:48]
virtual meetings.
[45:51]
Probably a couple depending on how deep
[45:53]
it gets into it.
[45:55]
>> Well, I don't mind doing it either,
[45:56]
Phil. I mean, I know you do a lot
[45:57]
already, so I don't mind doing it.
[46:02]
>> That's fine.
[46:03]
>> If you think I'm I'm a good fit for you.
[46:06]
>> Yeah.
[46:07]
>> Um, you are the vice chair, so
[46:10]
technically I guess you do the
[46:11]
appointment.
[46:13]
I will appoint.
[46:15]
>> Okay.
[46:16]
>> Any objection? I'm seeing.
[46:20]
» I think you're the right guy.
[46:22]
>> That's one. I'll point you.
[46:25]
>> All right. So, we have that appointment
[46:28]
and um love you as a backup Phil. I
[46:31]
guess the next thing on the agenda is
[46:33]
the capital project. So, we don't have
[46:36]
um we were looking at that front
[46:38]
entrance and you know, I kind of been
[46:41]
out there looking at it as well. Again,
[46:43]
looking at replacing that cement. Um
[46:47]
my gut on that is it's a bad fiscal year
[46:50]
to be spending on something that isn't
[46:53]
absolutely dysfunctional or a safety
[46:56]
issue. It's getting there. Um and I know
[47:00]
it's a different pocket of money for
[47:01]
those watching at home. Um it's you know
[47:04]
the capital is a different you know we
[47:06]
have that savings where we continue to
[47:08]
do improvements but um where I the
[47:13]
difficulty is that either you do it
[47:14]
repair it or you do the whole thing over
[47:16]
and the difference in cost was you know
[47:19]
uh 30 around 20 to $30,000 let's go the
[47:22]
higher end $30,000 more and so um
[47:28]
and I don't think it needs to be done
[47:29]
ASAP so
[47:31]
>> yeah whatever I the repairs I haven't
[47:33]
done to it. I've got it. So, the safety
[47:36]
issue we made for now.
[47:38]
>> Yeah.
[47:38]
>> It's aesthetically not the best, but
[47:40]
it's also not a year to be focused on
[47:42]
aesthetics.
[47:42]
>> Yeah. So, anyway, I put that back on the
[47:45]
agenda to have that discussion because
[47:47]
it is ultimately your decision. Um
[47:50]
Kristen, is there anything else in the I
[47:53]
know we have our capital list and I
[47:56]
didn't review it. two floors if we're
[47:59]
moving along with that. They probably be
[48:01]
a high a high priority.
[48:02]
>> Okay.
[48:03]
>> Other than that,
[48:04]
>> Jesus.
[48:05]
>> All right. So, we could we could shift
[48:08]
over away from the front entrance and do
[48:10]
the classroom floors. Continuing to do
[48:14]
>> um let me just get the numbers on that
[48:16]
up. Give me one second.
[48:20]
>> Jesus.
[48:21]
>> That was part of like the fiveyear plan,
[48:22]
right? Flooring replacement. So I think
[48:25]
you know we talked about that for quite
[48:27]
a while
[48:28]
cut and dry in our capital meeting
[48:31]
discussion.
[48:32]
>> Yet
[48:35]
don't
[48:42]
reading the tea leaves
[48:45]
is next year. What are the prospects
[48:47]
for, you know, that I if if if if we're
[48:51]
saying this isn't a good year, we're
[48:54]
also saying next year, that implies that
[48:57]
next year is going to be better or the
[48:58]
year after is going to be better.
[49:00]
>> Is it? Is it?
[49:02]
>> It's a fair I mean, it's a good fair
[49:03]
question, Phil. Right. Like you how long
[49:04]
do you you pause for?
[49:06]
>> Yeah.
[49:06]
>> Um here's the capital plan.
[49:11]
>> Oops.
[49:11]
>> Right. We're also not going to lose
[49:13]
rural aid again. Right. If we get it
[49:17]
back, that's a plus, but we won't lose
[49:18]
it again. That's one hit that won't
[49:22]
be.
[49:22]
>> Yeah. I mean, so looking like so what we
[49:25]
had in priority is we had this front,
[49:27]
this is why we talked about we had the
[49:28]
front sidewalk
[49:30]
um the two plans of 40 to 80.
[49:34]
But if we do the classrooms for 30, we
[49:38]
continue working on that. We don't stop
[49:40]
completely.
[49:42]
Um,
[49:44]
we don't stop all capital projects. We
[49:45]
continue moving forward. We just we just
[49:48]
not do the front entrance next year.
[49:52]
That sound
[49:56]
» Well, I mean, the the the other the
[49:58]
other part of this too is that we are,
[49:59]
of course, the only elementary school in
[50:01]
the district with a well, I don't know
[50:04]
if that's true anymore, but we we have
[50:06]
our own uh capital stabilization fund.
[50:10]
>> Yep. And there is the option to do the
[50:13]
work out of that. And
[50:17]
um yeah,
[50:17]
>> that's what we're Yes, I'm talking
[50:19]
about. Yes, I'm talking about requesting
[50:21]
to use 30,000
[50:24]
>> next year to do that. and and so the the
[50:27]
budgetary impact would be uh an
[50:30]
associated request to fill to refill
[50:33]
that stabilization cap in that which
[50:36]
does not necessarily need to be made or
[50:38]
need to be made in full or whatever. So
[50:42]
there is sort of a
[50:44]
>> I don't know
[50:45]
>> it's not necessarily an eitheror.
[50:48]
Um
[50:51]
uh yeah. So
[50:52]
>> the other thing is is if we get rural
[50:54]
aid back, we could talk about using that
[50:56]
for a capital. It could be put towards
[50:58]
the front entryway for next year if we
[51:01]
get funding back in that regard because
[51:04]
using it as a budget offset clearly is
[51:07]
not the best option for us. We don't
[51:10]
want to have to continue to go up and
[51:11]
down in the budget that way.
[51:15]
But there is a significant amount of
[51:17]
money in this fund. I I think last time
[51:19]
the accountant told me it was like
[51:20]
$275,000
[51:21]
in that stabilization fund.
[51:23]
>> Well, the idea was to have the the
[51:25]
boiler the boiler uh
[51:28]
>> number the funds available for for a
[51:30]
major
[51:32]
>> emergency. So, um
[51:35]
All right. So, I'm looking at um
[51:37]
approving that we move forward with the
[51:39]
$30,000 classroom project for next year
[51:42]
for capital.
[51:44]
>> Bill, based on your knowledge of the
[51:46]
town budget, does that make sense? not
[51:47]
to go more aggressive with dollars, just
[51:49]
to go with the 30.
[51:51]
>> You know, my
[51:54]
um I my my sitting here right now, my my
[51:57]
take is, you know, take care of the
[51:59]
building's needs that these are these
[52:01]
are among the
[52:04]
you know, historically we've done well
[52:06]
at town meeting because these are the
[52:08]
things that are so apparent and that
[52:10]
people can really wrap their heads
[52:12]
around what these are that we're asking
[52:14]
for. And historically the general
[52:16]
concept of taking care of the building
[52:19]
has it meets with widespread public
[52:22]
approval. But um the you know so so I
[52:27]
you know I would be okay with doing more
[52:30]
but um I you know I don't
[52:35]
>> we don't have to decide that
[52:38]
meeting soon. So this could go back on
[52:40]
agenda for discussion with Ela here as
[52:42]
well. I think I think that's probably a
[52:44]
smart move. I'm a little torn myself,
[52:46]
honestly.
[52:47]
>> Um I I hate to have it be just that the
[52:52]
straw that breaks the camel's back in
[52:54]
the meeting where all of a sudden this conversation about capital becomes
[52:57]
a little contentious for the first time
[52:59]
ever because we have a five and a half%
[53:01]
request on the budget,
[53:02]
>> right?
[53:03]
>> Um
[53:05]
>> I don't know.
[53:06]
>> Yeah. No, they the general public
[53:08]
doesn't see the silos of money as
[53:11]
easily.
[53:13]
>> They, you know, they look at they they
[53:14]
look at every warrant article and if
[53:16]
they look at warrant I mean you have the
[53:18]
money to spend and then request you
[53:20]
don't have to request to get re have it
[53:22]
be filled back filled the same year but
[53:24]
I wouldn't get into that practice. I
[53:26]
would try to always keep that backfilled
[53:29]
as you do as you use it.
[53:30]
>> And there have been years that it's not
[53:32]
been fully backfilled. They've done
[53:34]
we've done a partial. you know, if we
[53:35]
spend 30, then we ask for 15 to go back
[53:38]
in. There's definitely that has
[53:40]
happened.
[53:42]
>> What do you think, Bill? Wait another
[53:43]
month, see more information on the
[53:45]
state.
[53:45]
>> I mean, I I guess and just to um just to
[53:48]
Shel's point that, you know, we we have
[53:50]
that that is true. We have the the you
[53:53]
know, and um you know, I was part of the
[53:57]
group that originally created the
[53:59]
stabilization the the cap the grammar
[54:01]
school capital stabilization fund. And
[54:03]
Darius is right. The purpose was so that
[54:06]
if one or both boilers explode, um, you
[54:10]
know, we we don't need to
[54:14]
uh cancel school to have a town meeting
[54:16]
and uh, etc. that we that we're ready to
[54:19]
go and we can
[54:21]
we have the money in place. And so to
[54:24]
me, the the the amount in the
[54:27]
stabilization fund should always bear a
[54:29]
relationship to the cost of boiler
[54:31]
emergency boiler repairs. That was its
[54:33]
original purpose. Um but
[54:36]
>> all right. So I think yeah, so I think
[54:38]
it's a we we'll continue this
[54:40]
conversation. Um we're just not going to
[54:41]
take action on this today. Um and we'll
[54:44]
continue we'll put that on the
[54:46]
unfinished business next month. Sounds
[54:48]
good.
[54:49]
>> Yeah.
[54:52]
>> All right. Now we're down to reports.
[54:55]
Chair is not here for a chair report. Um
[54:58]
collaborative.
[55:00]
Who goes to the collaborative?
[55:02]
Did
[55:02]
>> you go?
[55:04]
>> I did. Yes. It was just a review of the
[55:06]
budget.
[55:08]
>> All right. I also understand they're in
[55:10]
the final stages of their hiring, too,
[55:12]
right?
[55:12]
>> Yeah.
[55:13]
>> Um they're gonna announce that today,
[55:14]
aren't they? Who they finalist, sir?
[55:16]
>> Yes, probably. I got an email, so
[55:19]
>> Okay. Um yeah, when you get the uh who
[55:22]
the files are, I'd love to know who they
[55:23]
are. Um and then superintendent report
[55:27]
is
[55:29]
I sent it out as part of the packet.
[55:31]
Remember was on it. It was just the
[55:32]
timeline for the budget for those who
[55:34]
curious about how the state budget
[55:35]
timeline was um and so forth. The first
[55:39]
thing was but um you have that and that
[55:43]
is to the end here.
[55:46]
Any other uh business?
[55:49]
>> Motion.
[55:51]
to adjourn. Jared does a first.
[55:54]
>> Second.
[55:55]
>> Tori does a second. All those in favor?
[55:57]
>> I.
[55:58]
>> Thank you. Thank you.