[1:16] >>

[1:19] can we

[1:21] all rise for the pledge of allegiance please.

[1:22] I pledge allegiance

[1:23] to the flag of the united states of america

[1:24] and to the republic for which it stands

[1:25] one nation under god indivisible

[1:27] with liberty and justice for all.

[1:34] >> roll call.

[1:37] >>

[1:40] commissioner smith. Commissioner

[1:43] mallozzi. Commissioner

[1:46] katzman ,

[1:49] mayor.

[1:50] >>

[1:52] let's go ahead and

[1:55] do the recognitions and proclamations

[1:58] if

[2:00] my fellow colleagues will join me

[2:01] on the floor.

[2:43] >> the man that I

[2:45] have here you will hear some interesting

[2:46] things about. I would like you

[2:49] to meet

[2:52] adam, a bright and talented

[2:54] student that just graduated cooper

[2:55] city elementary

[2:58] school. Adam is currently blazing

[3:01] trails by taking ninth grade math

[3:07] . Everybody applied because that is impressive.

[3:13] he has the first student to

[3:15] triumphantly finish six, seven, and

[3:16] eighth grade math while still

[3:18] in the fifth grade. Excitingly he

[3:19] will jump straight into

[3:22] ninth grade math next.

[3:28] his dedication and hard work have

[3:30] earned him a record of straight a's

[3:31] through his academic journey. He proudly

[3:33] served as student council president

[3:34] and at the

[3:36] graduation ceremony he actually pronounced

[3:37] my last

[3:40] name properly. That in and of itself

[3:42] you should get extra credit. He's

[3:43] a distinguished member

[3:47] of mensa

[3:49] . His love for animals is truly heartwarming.

[3:53] he dreams of creating his

[3:56] very own zoo aquarium

[3:58] combining the wonders of terrestrial

[4:02] and marine life.

[4:03] with his passion and determination

[4:05] there's no doubt that adam

[4:08] is destined

[4:09] for greatness. He's a phenomenal student.

[4:11] I don't normally

[4:12] just give certificates to everyone

[4:14] but I was

[4:17] so impressed . That and the fact

[4:18] that you pronounced my name right.

[4:20] this is for you

[4:23] adam balaban

[4:26] . We

[4:27] present this certificate for your

[4:28] outstanding achievements in math,

[4:31] reflect your intelligence and persistence.

[4:32] keep going.

[4:35] now

[4:38] join

[4:41] us, please.

[5:41] >> tonight

[5:44] we will give

[5:46] a proclamation to the recreation department. [applause]

[5:47] my

[5:50] favorite department. Whereas

[5:52] parks and recreation programs are

[5:56] an integral part of the

[5:57] community throughout this country

[5:59] including cooper city.

[6:01] whereas the city of cooper city is

[6:02] home to 22

[6:04] parks, three sports complex and over

[6:05] 100 acres

[6:08] inspiring residence with beauty

[6:09] and providing countless recreation

[6:11] opportunities. Whereas

[6:14] parts and recreation program

[6:15] provide vitally important to establishing

[6:17] and maintaining the quality

[6:19] of life in our community ensuring

[6:20] the health of

[6:22] all citizens, contributing to the

[6:23] economy as well

[6:26] as the

[6:27] environmental well-being of the community.

[6:29] whereas recreation participation continues

[6:32] family

[6:35] unity, strengthens volunteerism,

[6:36] creates community pride and vitality

[6:38] and promotes

[6:41] sensitivity and an understanding of

[6:42] the

[6:43] culture of diversity. Whereas the

[6:44] city of cooper city recognizes the vital

[6:47] contributions of employees

[6:50] and

[6:51] ensuring facilities are clean, safe,

[6:53] and accessible for all city residents

[6:56] to enjoy. James curran,

[6:58] mayor of cooper city do hereby complain

[6:59] -- proclaim

[7:02] july 2025 as

[7:05] parks and recreation month.

[7:08] do you want to come get your picture

[7:09] taken with

[7:11] us. No speech?

[7:14] no speech. Speech?

[7:20] >>

[7:23] I will say a few things.

[7:26] this crew is a reason why it is

[7:28] an integral part of the community.

[7:31] each and every one from running the

[7:32] great events

[7:34] to providing aftercare summer camps, playgrounds,

[7:38] ballfields,

[7:41] this is why.

[9:57] >> we will move on to

[10:00] public comment.

[10:03] excuse me. One second. Let's

[10:06] go ahead and do pet adoption.

[10:09] >> adorable little danny is one

[10:11] of many adorable kittens available

[10:12] for adoption

[10:15] at the

[10:16] humane society of broward county.

[10:18] just 15 weeks old, she's

[10:20] curious, playful and ready to be part

[10:21] of

[10:23] a family. The shelter has more than

[10:27] 80 felines waiting to be adopted

[10:29] so now would be a perfect time to adopt.

[10:31] all pets are spayed and neutered before

[10:33] going home and

[10:36] receive a microchip. The fee

[10:39] is $125 to stop by .

[10:41] griffin road is closed at the railroad tracks.

[10:44] be sure to follow the detour tight --

[10:47] signs to get to the shelter. Danny

[10:48] is waiting for

[10:50] you.

[10:51] >> thank you. Public comment.

[10:54] mrs. Schwartz.

[11:00] >>

[11:03] good evening. I have

[11:06] been a resident for 26 years.

[11:11] we've raised our three daughters and

[11:12] now enjoying grandchildren. I'm grateful

[11:13] to live directly across from cooper

[11:15] point park.

[11:17] these luxuries were taken away from us

[11:20] four months ago when a neighbor who

[11:21] did not live in

[11:23] our circle decided to abandon his truck

[11:25] and make the roadway his permanent

[11:27] space. This blocks the kids from

[11:30] riding their bicycles freely and obstructs

[11:31] their

[11:33] traffic view. Additionally sanitation

[11:34] trucks

[11:36] have to back out. We have asked

[11:39] the truck owner

[11:41] to simply move his truck back to his driveway

[11:43] which was met with a disgusting response.

[11:45] have also reached out

[11:47] to code enforcement. I'm asking for

[11:48] your help to resolve

[11:51] the situation

[11:53] for being a public nuisance. Is there

[11:54] anything we can do to prevent

[11:57] the abandoned vehicle in our roadway.

[11:58] given

[12:00] that this

[12:02] is walking distance to the highway

[12:03] and middle school can we

[12:05] at least put a sign there that says

[12:06] no parking during

[12:07] school hours to alleviate some of

[12:09] the burden we are facing as

[12:10] a result of neighbors and considerate

[12:12] of others.

[12:15] thank you for your time. We

[12:17] would appreciate your response and

[12:18] making cooper roadways

[12:21] safer for all of our neighbors.

[12:24] >> you will get your answer now.

[12:27] >> if you could just meet with the

[12:28] captain

[12:29] when you are done she will help you.

[12:30] thank you.

[12:39] >> I have a question. Does

[12:42] anyone object to adding 28

[12:45] to consent?

[12:54] >> I

[12:57] think it needs to be discussed.

[13:06] >> motion to

[13:09] adopt the consent agenda.

[13:12] >> I want to

[13:15] pull number 14.

[13:21] and

[13:24] hold on.

[13:25] >> you only

[13:27] get two.

[13:28] >> no I don't

[13:30] . I also want to pull number 23

[13:33] and

[13:39] also number 25.

[13:45] and that is it.

[13:51] >> now can

[13:53] I have a motion to approve?

[13:54] >> second.

[13:57] any questions?

[14:00] call about.

[14:01] >> commissioner smith.

[14:02] >>

[14:03] yes.

[14:04] >> commissioner mallozzi. >>

[14:06] commissioner catherine. Commissioner

[14:09] shrouder. Mayor curran.

[14:12] >>

[14:15] authorizing an agreement between

[14:18] cooper city for school resource officer services

[14:21] authorizing and directing the appropriate

[14:24] city officials to

[14:26] effectuate the resolution. Providing

[14:27] for effective date.

[14:30] the

[14:32] adam is pulled back.

[14:33] >> two things.

[14:34] in

[14:37] reference to

[14:38] we have a potential large increase

[14:40] with

[14:43] the sheriff

[14:46] . I saw that in the contract on

[14:51] 206 of the contract. It specifically

[14:52] said if

[14:55] there was hold

[14:57] on. Overtime or replacement deputy

[15:01] that that is something that they

[15:04] could invoice, but if I have

[15:07] to pay x amount over

[15:08] and above what we are currently paying

[15:10] that is not something

[15:13] that was covered. I just want to

[15:16] make sure . When I spoke to

[15:17] jacob that he understood my concerns.

[15:21] I want to be sure that is covered

[15:22] because

[15:24] if we have to pay a crazy amount of

[15:25] money, I don't want

[15:27] to fall short of what we are charging them

[15:31] and I want to be able to recoup

[15:32] that. Part two is in the beginning

[15:34] it says that

[15:43] we do this

[15:44] because bso does not want to enter

[15:46] into anything with the charter school.

[15:47] that is great. In the same section

[15:49] it states that the

[15:50] sheriff shall invoice them. If the

[15:52] sheriff can invoice

[15:54] them for overtime, replacement deputies,

[15:58] et cetera,

[16:01] why can't they invoice them

[16:04] for the entire cost and why am I the middleman?

[16:07] I know

[16:08] this was asked and answered before

[16:10] but I would like it on the record

[16:11] and a formal letter saying if you

[16:13] can invoice them for this why

[16:15] not the whole entire thing and leave

[16:16] me

[16:18] out of it. I would like to hear what

[16:19] everybody has

[16:22] to say.

[16:25] >> I have his number. We can call him.

[16:30] call him up and ask him.

[16:31] >> why don't

[16:32] you

[16:33] do that right now and see if it works.

[16:34] >> as a point

[16:36] of information on this as it is written,

[16:40] I understood this approval to be specific

[16:43] to the charter school, not to

[16:46] anything else.

[16:48] >> the city has had this agreement in

[16:49] essentially the

[16:51] same form for the past five years.

[16:52] commissioner may recall in 2012

[16:55] when the conditional use was

[16:58] approved one of the conditions

[17:00] was to have a school resource officer

[17:01] on site.

[17:04] at some point over the years the sheriff's

[17:07] office made the policy decision to

[17:08] enter into contracts directly with

[17:11] charter schools. There are several

[17:13] schools in the county with these agreements.

[17:16] essentially they pass a funding mechanism

[17:28] . They will not enter into a contract

[17:29] with the sheriff's office. We have

[17:31] a resource officer. The intent of

[17:32] the agreement

[17:33] is to pay the full amount of that

[17:37] particular position.

[17:39] that has been the arrangement over

[17:40] the years.

[17:41] if the commissioner would like us

[17:43] to send a letter asking to revisit

[17:46] I have no objection.

[17:48] it's the same form agreement that

[17:49] the city renaissance and sheriff's

[17:51] office has had to facilitate compliance

[17:52] .

[17:55] >> I would like to add a point

[17:58] of information. If the

[17:59] sheriff was billing the school directly

[18:01] and our rates get raised,

[18:04] we are not responsible for covering

[18:07] it because

[18:10] if it is $100 that is what we are

[18:11] charging

[18:13] them that's great. If we get billed $120,

[18:16] this agreement

[18:18] does not cover that. It does not cover

[18:19] their increase

[18:22] in prices. I verified that.

[18:25] >> the intent of this agreement

[18:28] is for

[18:30] renaissance to cover the full cost

[18:31] of that position to the extent

[18:34] it is adjusted.

[18:36] the city would invoice renaissance

[18:40] or if it were to go down that

[18:43] lower amount.

[18:49] I have no further questions

[18:52] . I am in support.

[18:55] >>

[19:01] the commissioner is right. We are

[19:02] involved

[19:03] because we have to be. It's not right.

[19:04] it does not

[19:07] make sense.

[19:09] they ask that you move the po box

[19:10] on their

[19:13] . With our mailing address.

[19:25] >> if we do approve this it's the

[19:28] attachment

[19:31] will it still be part of that approval.

[19:32] >>

[19:37] we can do it but we will just

[19:39] be paying jacob to mail something

[19:43] .

[19:46] >>

[19:49] I don't think if you can sit there

[19:51] and invoice somebody in paragraph 22

[19:52] you can invoice

[19:55] them now

[19:58] and I can avoid this ever coming before

[20:01] me again.

[20:02] >> I would

[20:03] ask robin who watches east meeting

[20:04] and makes note to

[20:07] make a report and understand why we

[20:08] don't

[20:10] want to be involved. This was mayor

[20:13] ross's point exactly.

[20:16] commissioner mallozzi

[20:19] has taken up the

[20:21] cause. He complained about this every year.

[20:25] you are right, but it is what

[20:28] it is.

[20:37] >> they are taking notes. >> I will

[20:38] second

[20:40] the motion.

[20:41] >>

[20:43] we will make the changes in the other provisions.

[20:47] >> commissioner smith. >> yes.

[20:49] >> commissioner mallozzi. >> no. >>

[20:53] commissioner katzman.

[20:55] commissioner shrouder . Mayor curran.

[20:56] >>

[21:02] next, again pulled

[21:03] by commissioner mallozzi.

[21:04] >> two reasons.

[21:08] any little bit of art

[21:11] is a win win. I love that we are

[21:15] doing the fire hydrants. This is just

[21:17] going to make it even

[21:20] better. I also wanted to

[21:21] forewarn everyone that at the next

[21:22] commission meeting I will bring back

[21:25] an item that I had brought up to previous

[21:26] commissions

[21:28] about having artwork in the plaza's

[21:29] .

[21:31] that way, this might be something for

[21:35] a business person,

[21:38] because it can

[21:41] draw people

[21:42] in. It will not cost us anything.

[21:44] I just wanted to

[21:46] make everybody cognizant of the fact

[21:47] that is

[21:49] bringing that back to say this is

[21:50] a

[21:51] great step in the right direction.

[21:56] >> motion

[21:57] to approve.

[21:58] >> motion. >> second.

[21:59] >> call about. >>

[22:00] commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

[22:03] commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder.

[22:05] mayor curran.

[22:11] >> 25 is a motion to approve the

[22:14] security lighting in the amount of $89,500

[22:17] utilizing the contract number

[22:21] pulled by commissioner mallozzi.

[22:22] >>

[22:23] I pulled it because

[22:25] my husband has issues with l.e.d.s

[22:26] and their lifespan.

[22:29] I asked

[22:30] jennifer if we could check to see

[22:32] if the lifeboats

[22:35] were included in the warranty.

[22:38] if we can have

[22:41] documentation to that effect.

[22:43] that way when they do not last their

[22:44] lifespan if we could say,

[22:46] replace this. Has it been included?

[22:50] >> yes.

[22:53] >> you change. >>

[23:00] the light bulb itself is not included

[23:02] but the polls and maintenance of

[23:04] the fixtures is part of it.'s tenure

[23:07] warranty.

[23:08] >> but not on the light bulb.

[23:11] >> okay. Just fyi

[23:13] I'm all for the new light fixtures,

[23:14] but the

[23:17] light bulbs

[23:20] ,

[23:23] l.e.d.s they say they are good for

[23:25] 25,000 hours, five years. My husband

[23:28] has proven in our house that they last

[23:32] one year no matter what

[23:35] you do . I think that

[23:38] if we are

[23:40] banking our budgeting for these light

[23:41] bulbs to be

[23:44] 45 years we need to

[23:47] water but what we are budgeting because

[23:48] they

[23:49] do not last what they are supposed to.

[23:52] >> motion to approve. >> second. >>

[23:53] commissioner smith.

[23:56] commissioner mallozzi.

[23:57] commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder,

[24:02] mayor curran.

[24:03] >> no.

[24:08] >> commission, 28 is

[24:11] a motion to approve for the

[24:14] optimist club

[24:26] >>

[24:29] we do not need a motion.

[24:30] >>

[24:32] I will make a motion.

[24:46] >> part of the agreement allows us

[24:47] to conduct

[24:50] . I think it will

[24:53] be beneficial . Obviously we will have

[24:55] the manager come up with a scope that

[24:56] will

[24:59] be productive to reconcile things

[25:02] and get

[25:04] opinions on best practices and stuff.

[25:08] I think we owe it to

[25:11] the community.

[25:14] because the other use agreements required

[25:15] them

[25:16] to cover the cost. It will help us

[25:17] going forward with

[25:20] the transition

[25:23] .

[25:26] >> I just have a question.

[25:29] with

[25:32] this encompass possibly

[25:35] a forensic audit as well.

[25:38] >> I would make sure

[25:41] to include .

[25:42] >> that would be

[25:43] considered part of the certified financial audit.

[25:47] >> under contract the city

[25:50] will determine the scope

[25:53] if it is needed.

[25:54] >>

[25:56] my intent would be forensic.

[25:59] >> that is fine with me.

[26:08] I don't know if that is a term of art

[26:14] .

[26:15] >>

[26:17] anybody else?

[26:18] >> I understand the audit

[26:20] and it's part of the facilities

[26:23] agreement. Is it appropriate

[26:26] to ask what the

[26:30] piece will look like or

[26:32] what that means behind it ? Is there

[26:33] any

[26:34] further insight on what we are looking

[26:36] at?

[26:37] >> the difference

[26:38] between the regular order and forensic order,

[26:42] the forensic order is looking

[26:45] back to if there were 11

[26:48] -- irregularities.

[26:51] a regular audit is just

[26:54] making sure you

[26:55] are putting the right things in the

[26:57] right places and doing the

[27:00] right accounts.

[27:01] >> okay.

[27:03] >> any

[27:05] more questions? Call the vote.

[27:06] >>

[27:07] commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

[27:12] commissioner katzman.

[27:14] commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

[27:18] >> am 29 is

[27:19] a discussion and potential implementation

[27:27] for disposal offered

[27:28] by commissioner mallozzi.

[27:29] >> I will

[27:30] make a motion.

[27:31] >> second.

[27:36] >> okay.

[27:39] basically

[27:42] this is how it started.

[27:45] I was mulching

[27:48] and it took me a while .

[27:51] as I am outside for hours

[27:54] on end in the hideous heat,

[27:57] I see the neighbor

[27:58] landscaper coming . He mows the lawn

[28:00] and proceeds to

[28:03] blow everything

[28:06] to the other neighbor.

[28:07] two days later the other neighbor

[28:09] comes there landscaper

[28:14] and it goes back to the original side.

[28:15] this is constant.

[28:20] I don't see anyone from code in the audience,

[28:23] but it's not the first time neighbors

[28:24] have complained.

[28:27] there have been wars over lawn clippings.

[28:28] the

[28:30] problem I had was when the

[28:31] lawn clippings are not picked up they

[28:33] wind up in the street. They

[28:36] clog the --

[28:39] I call them gutters but

[28:41] they clog the sewers. When they are

[28:44] wet they pose a hazard to cars because

[28:45] they can't get on them.

[28:47] they pose a hazard to people that

[28:48] are walking on them

[28:51] . We are in the rainy season and we

[28:52] also

[28:53] have hurricanes coming or horrible storms.

[28:57] all of the drainage is

[28:58] potentially blocked up with something

[29:00] that could easily

[29:03] be rectified. When I had

[29:06] a conversation with the code officers

[29:09] I said, is this something you can enforce?

[29:12] they can. They would have to see

[29:15] it but so many people

[29:18] have cameras it

[29:20] is easy to watch that someone is not complying.

[29:23] I also spoke to people I know that

[29:24] do lawns. They

[29:27] said it would take an extra 5

[29:30] to 7 minutes. What they do now, if

[29:31] they want to they can put everything

[29:33] in a pile with their machinery

[29:36] and just take the pile

[29:39] and put it in the customer's waste

[29:42] receptacle. It has an impact on us

[29:44] financially because we will spend

[29:45] less

[29:47] trying --less time with the truck

[29:51] cleaning out the systems and it could lessen

[29:54] our chances of having a

[29:55] hazard for people that are walking

[29:57] and driving during the

[29:59] rainy season.

[30:00] >> what are you asking?

[30:02] >> my ask is that we strengthen the ordinance

[30:06] to where it is giving

[30:08] an arm, for lack of a better word,

[30:09] to the code

[30:12] department when there is an issue

[30:15] and they see people or

[30:16] one neighbor complaints about the

[30:18] other neighbor and it's

[30:20] caught on a ring camera we do have

[30:27] >> I support that. May

[30:30] be at another subsection.

[30:33] you could specifically designate something.

[30:36] >> we will work

[30:38] with code enforcement to bring that

[30:39] for further consideration.

[30:42] >> any more discussion?

[30:45] >> if I am recognized.

[30:48] thank you. Has

[30:51] our city

[30:53] ever had this ordinance before to

[30:54] this level?

[30:56] maybe through the city attorney.

[30:57] >>

[30:59] what is your question?

[31:00] >> has our

[31:01] city had this

[31:03] language prior?

[31:04] >> I'm

[31:06] not aware of our city. There's

[31:09] some cities in broward county that

[31:10] to

[31:11] prohibit blowing away of your debris

[31:12] to protect

[31:14] from drainage. Hollywood has it and

[31:15] maybe others

[31:18] as well.

[31:21] we could work with code and bring

[31:22] back

[31:23] language for the commission to desist --

[31:24] consider.

[31:25] >>

[31:26] call the vote.

[31:27] >> the other thing

[31:28] on this. I thought over

[31:30] the years

[31:33] about us increasing maybe the street sweeping

[31:38] and being able to justify that through

[31:39] stormwater fees

[31:41] or whatever . The manager has kind

[31:42] of also

[31:44] told me it's useless if you do not

[31:45] have gutters

[31:48] . Is there some type

[31:51] ,

[31:54] I think I would like to make the streets

[31:55] look better.

[32:00] >> the issue again,

[32:03] we will work with code on this because

[32:04] we can certainly

[32:06] regulate.

[32:07] >> can the city look, jennifer

[32:09] said maybe a vacuum thing.

[32:13] >> we can look

[32:16] into what else is available.

[32:22] >> they are

[32:23] talking about to sweep the streets

[32:25] and vacuum up

[32:28] the yard debris.

[32:31] >> any more discussion

[32:34] ? Call the vote.

[32:35] >> commissioner

[32:36] smith. Commissioner mallozzi. Commissioner katzman.

[32:40] commissioner shrouder.

[32:43] mayor curran.

[32:44] >> yes.

[32:46] item 30 as the

[32:48] review and approval of the yearly

[32:49] evaluation

[32:52] salary increase

[32:55] . Motion?

[32:58] >> motion for

[33:01] discussion.

[33:02] >> second. >> here we

[33:04] go. Mr. Shrouder.

[33:10] >> I

[33:11] do not think this has a specific number.

[33:13] there was no

[33:16] nothing in the backup.

[33:19] >> it

[33:22] was a $20,000 race I thought.

[33:23] >>

[33:27] there is not that anywhere. On discussion I

[33:28] think is where

[33:31] we are.

[33:33] >> I think 500,000 is not that bad.

[33:36] just making sure you were paying attention.

[33:40] listen.

[33:43] the way that we did it was not right.

[33:46] I know

[33:49] how this happened.

[33:51] eggleston got more money. We had to

[33:52] to get

[33:55] greg to

[33:58] go for alex

[34:03] we had to write in the negotiation ability.

[34:04] then he

[34:07] was going to say yes

[34:09] so he's down there nickel and dime

[34:13] in him

[34:16] because greg thought he was an excellent

[34:17] negotiator. The reality is the gentleman

[34:19] with way more years and

[34:22] in my opinion

[34:25] doing more to accomplish

[34:28] . It is just not right.

[34:33] the only way to make sure greg would

[34:34] vote for

[34:36] him was to give the king a crown to

[34:37] go negotiate it.

[34:38] >>

[34:40] may I ask where he was and vice versa?

[34:43] >>

[34:49] I believe his starting salary

[34:52] in june

[34:55] 2023 was

[34:58] to 38.

[34:59] >> when I looked at the scale

[35:01] I thought to 67 was fair.

[35:04] in fairness, he told me he shot a

[35:07] lower number .

[35:10] I looked at the different ones

[35:13] . I can give

[35:16] you for example, out the door

[35:21] we have employees through a contractor

[35:22] that cost us in

[35:24] the threes. One of them walking in

[35:25] the door

[35:31] what you think is fair

[35:37] .

[35:38] >> if I may,

[35:39] give me the crown for negotiation.

[35:43] do we have --I'm sure

[35:46] we do

[35:49] . Can we confirm 248

[35:52] was where the prior city manager

[35:55] salary cap was?

[35:56] >> I can look at

[35:58] his contract. It was 247.

[35:59] >>

[36:01] all right. I am good

[36:04] with 248

[36:07] . That goes from what I see

[36:10] here. I am not willing to see

[36:13] 267. Maybe

[36:18] it gives him some room for improvement

[36:19] and we will see

[36:21] what he does for the fiscal year change

[36:22] but that's where

[36:25] I am.

[36:28] >> is that like

[36:31] a 5% raise?

[36:32] >>

[36:34] what do you make now.

[36:35] >> 233

[36:43] .

[36:49] 234 78.

[36:50] >> remember,

[36:52] we hired him as

[36:55] an intern. What a great negotiator.

[37:01] >> commissioner shrouder,

[37:04] I will give you some thoughts behind that.

[37:07] when you look

[37:10] at salaries

[37:13] throughout the county that is provided.

[37:14] you look at residence, population

[37:21] and where the salary lines up and

[37:22] what they identify some additional

[37:24] benefits which may be through cars

[37:25] and different allowances. I

[37:28] think they have us somewhere in

[37:30] the 34,000 range of residence. Yes,

[37:34] there are some here that are

[37:36] significantly less than us and pay

[37:37] the city

[37:40] manager my. To show good

[37:43] faith and at least put the

[37:46] city manager where

[37:49] at least our prior

[37:52] city manager was at that

[37:55] would be

[37:57] a good starting place. Understanding that

[38:01] at

[38:03] that point you do become more inside

[38:04] the marketplace with the

[38:06] city managers. I think that would

[38:08] at least start off to

[38:11] be fair.

[38:14] >> you want to negotiate?

[38:17] >>

[38:20] I am a terrible negotiator.

[38:23] >>

[38:25] what was the amount you said you made?

[38:32] >>

[38:35] 238 780.

[38:41] >>

[38:44] isis. Can you tell me the amount

[38:47] of employees that and

[38:50] up 5% in a

[38:53] pay increase?

[38:56] >>

[38:59] on the merit

[39:00] list that I gave you I do not think

[39:02] there was

[39:05] anyone going over 4%.

[39:08] >> there is one at five.

[39:14] I figured you might l. You did not

[39:17] memorize this? I'm joking.

[39:20] I thought

[39:21] somebody said something. I had requested

[39:23] to see how much money

[39:26] our employees

[39:29] , how much of a percentage.

[39:32] I just got this as

[39:35] I got here. We had

[39:38] one at 1.55.

[39:41] one at 1.3. 33

[39:44] at 2.0. One at 2.3,

[39:47] one at 2.07, 2.5,

[39:50] 2.90. Et cetera.

[39:53] one person

[39:56] got five.

[39:57] >>

[39:59] point of information.

[40:02] with this

[40:05] be a

[40:08] valid question on the

[40:11] premise of

[40:13] was their salary restructuring and this

[40:17] is in addition as raises?

[40:20] could you give me that information.

[40:23] >>

[40:26] answer his question.

[40:29] be my guest.

[40:30] >> I want to understand

[40:31] if I'm looking at equal or if this

[40:35] is looked upon as restructuring and

[40:36] then

[40:38] we give merit on top of that.

[40:39] >>

[40:43] there is no need to restructure a

[40:44] contract. Let me

[40:46] explain why. Not only did he have

[40:47] a contract that

[40:49] he signed, he had an addendum to his

[40:52] contract.

[40:53] >> in november that changed

[40:54] his terms.

[40:56] >> I am asking the

[40:58] question on this which commissioner

[40:59] mallozzi just read

[41:02] into existence

[41:05] can you confirm if there,

[41:08] if that is what restructuring

[41:11] and in addition these

[41:14] are raises or are these just the numbers

[41:20] >> to put it more clearly

[41:25] the raises or percentage it went up

[41:26] . Merit, restructuring,

[41:29] what are the percentages?

[41:32] >> they very

[41:35] .

[41:36] >> that is a huge difference.

[41:38] the fact is if we were

[41:40] underpaying employees and it finally

[41:41] came out

[41:47] .

[41:48] >>

[41:50] even after the pay plan.

[41:51] >>

[41:53] the only reason I asked this

[41:56] the city manager today

[41:59] was under negotiation because

[42:02] it was less

[42:04] than where the last one started at.

[42:08] I just want to see these percentages here

[42:14] with where she is presenting.

[42:17] >>

[42:20] I thought ryan was

[42:23] going to answer that.

[42:26] >> the last time we talked about

[42:29] that --

[42:32] I will give you an example.

[42:33] >>

[42:34] all I need to know is wasn't more

[42:35] than we

[42:38] were presenting.

[42:41] in addition it was this?

[42:42] >> remember

[42:44] last year what percentage of employees

[42:45] had

[42:47] an increase for cola ,

[42:50] it was half of them.

[42:53] >> I just want

[42:56] to know .

[43:02] I guess city manager if you could

[43:05] direct somebody

[43:08] .

[43:11] >> that could basically

[43:14] compare employees with the peers

[43:20] .

[43:21] >>

[43:23] in addition

[43:26] .

[43:27] >> than the merits came in after

[43:29] it is

[43:32] restructured.

[43:33] >> thank you.

[43:35] >> so

[43:38] --I cannot hear what you are

[43:41] saying.

[43:42] >> in addition

[43:54] , there were people

[43:55] at given additional increases of 10

[43:57] or 20% right before it started

[44:00] . For those ones I just sat

[44:03] down on merit

[44:06] .

[44:08] this is part of the restructure that

[44:09] are not

[44:12] readjusted.

[44:15] >>

[44:18] you said people got 10

[44:21] to 20%?

[44:22] >> yes. Two people

[44:24] did.

[44:25] >> did we vote? >>

[44:27] you don't vote

[44:30] on individual salary increases.

[44:39] >> 35, 34%, 33

[44:42] . I'm

[44:43] going from highest to lowest.

[44:44] >> could

[44:45] use say what the

[44:48] lowest was?

[44:51] >> let

[44:53] me give you the average. The average was

[45:00] 14.1

[45:11] .

[45:12] >> back to me speaking. Several

[45:15] things. One, I have

[45:18] an

[45:19] issue with the increase. There was

[45:21] a renegotiation in october

[45:23] about your parachute which no employee

[45:27] has that .

[45:30] >> at the time

[45:33] --

[45:34] >> can I finish speaking

[45:35] and then you can go? That is number

[45:36] one. Number

[45:38] two, if you look at the reviews they

[45:39] went

[45:42] from mine

[45:43] is definitely the worst because I

[45:45] gave negatives

[45:48] and there are people that

[45:49] are totally enamored with you. They

[45:51] think you are the next best thing

[45:52] since sliced bread. There are two

[45:54] of us

[45:56] that feel like we are the redheaded

[46:00] stepchildren. Obviously the

[46:02] city manager that we get to deal with

[46:03] and the city manager others

[46:05] get to deal with are not the same

[46:06] city manager.

[46:09] I don't get half the information the

[46:10] other

[46:12] people get. I'm not are even

[46:15] going to bring that

[46:16] up. More just highlighting that. The

[46:18] other thing I have an issue with is

[46:21] the city manager --I

[46:23] know you are going to back me on this

[46:27] mr. Katzman.

[46:28] the city manager gets his vacation

[46:30] time up front.

[46:32] the last city manager cost us $30,000

[46:33] because he left after

[46:36] the first. Even though he

[46:38] worked three days after the first,

[46:39] it was $30,000.

[46:44] if we are going to negotiate anything

[46:45] I want

[46:48] the city manager to earn their vacation

[46:49] like

[46:51] the rest of the employees

[46:53] . It should not be on the taxpayers

[46:54] if the

[46:57] city manager stays one day after the year

[47:00] that they get those

[47:03] vacation days. I know

[47:05] you enjoy traveling so I was trying

[47:06] to work out a compromise

[47:09] to be fair . If you want to take

[47:12] them before if you have only earned

[47:13] five

[47:15] vacation days because you like to

[47:16] go

[47:18] a lot

[47:20] and you want to go on a 10 day vacation

[47:21] that

[47:23] is fine. If for some reason you leave

[47:24] before

[47:26] those extra five days are earned it

[47:27] comes out of

[47:29] your last paycheck or your parachute

[47:30] that you have.

[47:33] >> agree .

[47:36] >> good. I like that.

[47:42] I am still not happy about

[47:43] the race but I know without a doubt

[47:45] I'm not getting it. At least now

[47:47] he's going to earn his vacation days

[47:48] and not worry about taking a

[47:51] $30,000 bath because the

[47:53] previous city manager stayed two days

[47:54] after his

[47:57] today.

[47:58] >> commissioner smith,

[48:00] do you have an offer down there .

[48:03] >> I put 248,000. >>

[48:06] anymore discussion?

[48:09] call the vote.

[48:12] >> commissioner smith.

[48:15] commissioner mallozzi.

[48:16] >> no. >>

[48:18] commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder.

[48:21] mayor curran.

[48:22] >> no.

[48:24] >> we will prepare an amendment.

[48:27] >> in reference to

[48:30] him burning his vacation days.

[48:31] >>

[48:33] if the manager has any objection.

[48:34] if you

[48:36] want to do it through hr that is fine.

[48:39] >> said

[48:42] done.

[48:51] >> just trying to stick it

[48:54] to her a little bit.

[48:55] >> thanks.

[48:57] >> we will work

[49:01] that out.

[49:04] >> did you agree on the

[49:06] vacation days? We will just put you

[49:10] on the regular employees.

[49:15] I can take it but if I leave before

[49:16] I have

[49:17] come --completely earned the time

[49:19] it comes out

[49:22] of my final pay.

[49:23] >> I know he

[49:24] enjoys vacation so I don't want to

[49:25] impede him

[49:28] going away.

[49:29] >> I know

[49:30] what happened before was not right

[49:31] and

[49:32] I would not do that so I will agree

[49:34] with you.

[49:35] >> thank

[49:37] you.

[49:38] >> next item.

[49:40] >> resolution 21

[49:43] -- 45 authorizing

[49:44] the execution of the first amendment

[49:46] to the

[49:49] agreement for the development of

[49:51] strict for the maintenance of island

[49:52] road

[49:54] from stirling road shall -- south.

[50:00] with the intended resolution provided for

[50:04] an effective date.

[50:05] >>

[50:07] motion to approve.

[50:08] >> second.

[50:10] >> any discussion?

[50:13] >> desperately needed. >> I just want

[50:16] to say thank you.

[50:19] >> great job. You are welcome.

[50:28] >> I

[50:30] think I got george fired for this.

[50:40] >> anymore?

[50:43] call the boat.

[50:44] >> I

[50:45] thought you were talking to each other.

[50:46] >>

[50:47] I was talking and you keep

[50:49] interrupting me.

[50:50] >> are you

[50:51] the only one that gets interrupted

[50:55] .

[50:56] >> that

[50:57] is how it works. I just wanted to

[50:58] say I want to

[50:59] thank the staff and apparently commissioner

[51:01] shrouder as well because this

[51:03] is a complaint I get from residents

[51:04] all

[51:07] the time.

[51:12] I thank you for getting this accomplished.

[51:19] >> somebody call

[51:22] al

[51:24] and let him know it's done.

[51:25] >> anybody

[51:26] else? Call

[51:28] the boat.

[51:29] >> commissioner smith.

[51:31] commissioner mallozzi. Commissioner katzman.

[51:34] commissioner shrouder.

[51:37] mayor

[51:40] curran.

[51:43] >> next. Establishing that assessment

[51:44] for

[51:46] fire assessments in the city.

[51:52] >> motion.

[51:58] >> I have

[52:01] a question again because we don't

[52:03] know what's going to happen with bsl

[52:07] what are we going to

[52:09] deal with? This could potentially

[52:10] be

[52:13] an issue.

[52:16] >>

[52:19] this is consideration for the letter provided.

[52:22] >>

[52:25] we will be okay?

[52:28] >> we are just going to pay it.

[52:34] >> if anything happens later on

[52:37] .

[52:43] >>

[52:46] I don't like being strangled

[52:49] and say I'm

[52:52] going to pay this.

[52:53] >> I had a question about

[52:54] the assessment. If we are being asked

[52:58] for the 12% raises if we don't pay

[53:01] the raises, how are

[53:04] the residence made

[53:07] whole pain this full assessment.

[53:10] >>

[53:15] my understanding, I could be wrong

[53:19] .

[53:20] >> you would not be wrong then.

[53:22] >> if

[53:25] we go

[53:31] ,

[53:33] in case armageddon happens and it

[53:34] doesn't we can

[53:37] lower it.

[53:43] I thought both we can.

[53:46] >> the certified mail

[53:48] notice requirements. There is legally

[53:49] a way to

[53:52] do it. With

[53:55] the fire assessment ,

[53:58] you are essentially

[54:01] setting a ceiling.

[54:10] >> anybody else?

[54:13] call the vote.

[54:14] >>

[54:16] commissioner smith.

[54:18] [ inaudible -overlapping speakers ]

[54:22] commissioner mallozzi.

[54:28] >> you can't

[54:30] vote on this.

[54:31] >> yes we can. >> just

[54:32] vote.

[54:33] >> I did.

[54:34] I said yes.

[54:37] >> commissioner katzman. >> yes. >>

[54:40] commissioner shrouder.

[54:41] >> yes. >>

[54:43] mayor curran.

[54:44] >> yes. >>

[54:48] the resolution for the city commission

[54:50] of the city of cooper city

[54:51] adopting a millage rate of 5.845 for

[54:53] the generator

[54:56] operating budget services

[54:58] providing for the establishment of

[55:02] and the date and time

[55:03] and location of public hearings for

[55:05] the millage rate perp

[55:08] complex, severability.

[55:09] >>

[55:11] motion approved .

[55:12] >>

[55:14] second. Any discussion?

[55:20] >> I do not want to do this

[55:22] lightly. I think we need to make it

[55:23] clear

[55:24] this would be setting the right lower

[55:26] than the

[55:29] current rate .

[55:30] >> yes.

[55:34] >> when I look at my county tax bill

[55:35] they

[55:37] claim they don't raise it because they

[55:38] --

[55:40] but they do because the millage is decreasing

[55:44] and they are increasing

[55:46] proportionally. This is like the fifth

[55:47] year in

[55:50] a row they would be lowering the millage

[55:53] rate.

[55:54] >> the question I have is

[55:55] isn't this four dollars a household?

[55:59] like $3.93 per household.

[56:05] is this

[56:11] $40,000?

[56:12] >> it is

[56:14] a message.

[56:15] >> with everything going up

[56:17] we are still finding a

[56:20] way to lower the rate.

[56:23] >>

[56:25] what I am saying is there is a lot

[56:26] of cost.

[56:28] the residents deserve and require

[56:34] resources. This does not happen on

[56:35] a little

[56:37] twist of the nose. At my household $3.93,

[56:41] thank you.

[56:44] >>

[56:46] when you run for office you can say

[56:47] you

[56:48] lower taxes year after year.

[56:49] >> I

[56:50] know that

[56:52] prior electives have done that. At

[56:56] this point, I

[56:58] think we are looking at a lot of things.

[56:59] you said we

[57:01] have to take this serious. Are we

[57:04] legislatively bound to some type of

[57:05] income that is maybe

[57:06] no longer coming through commercial

[57:08] real estate taxing.

[57:11] should we be looking at that

[57:13] because how much will that take away

[57:14] from

[57:17] the city income?

[57:23] >>

[57:24] at this point the commercial real

[57:26] estate impact is

[57:29] not specific to us.

[57:35] >> these are the things I think we

[57:36] should have a very significant talk.

[57:38] I know it's only 40,000.

[57:44] >> I

[57:45] will pretend I'm the county commission.

[57:47] we increase

[57:50] the fire assessment

[57:53] which overall

[57:56] is a more direct billing.

[57:59] we would receive more

[58:02] money overall . We are still

[58:07] receiving more money than last year.

[58:11] >> my position

[58:14] with the if anything I

[58:17] would freeze. We

[58:19] did not increase or decrease but everyone sees

[58:23] things are just free out there. If

[58:24] you

[58:26] feel that the

[58:29] wiggle to the

[58:32] other side

[58:35] to that 40,000 overall. I get it.

[58:38] no matter how you look at it you are

[58:39] cutting the

[58:41] tax.

[58:42] >> the rollback

[58:44] is more.

[58:46] if we went to rollback it would be

[58:47] --

[58:50] >> it 8.7 million.

[58:53] >> okay.

[58:59] >>

[59:05] even though it is negligible it does

[59:06] show

[59:07] that we are being fiscally responsible.

[59:08] every time we approve the contract

[59:11] .

[59:12] >> absolutely it does.

[59:17] >> we just showed

[59:20] in the contract it was a 10% increase

[59:23] .

[59:24] >> when they get

[59:26] the notices

[59:29] , we actually lowered the rate.

[59:38] it is creeping up

[59:41] a little bit.

[59:44] >>

[59:46] I want to make certain. The status quo

[59:50] ,

[59:52] I just wanted to have that discussion.

[1:00:05] >> commissioner smith. >>

[1:00:06] yes.

[1:00:07] >> commissioner mallozzi. >>

[1:00:08] yes.

[1:00:09] >> commissioner katzman. >> yes.

[1:00:10] >> commissioner

[1:00:11] shrouder.

[1:00:12] >> yes. >> mayor curran.

[1:00:13] >> yes.

[1:00:14] >> next rector actively

[1:00:16] authorizing the expenditure to concrete

[1:00:20] works inc. For the provision

[1:00:23] of water , sewer and drainage repairs

[1:00:26] taking all action necessary

[1:00:29] with the conflict and severability

[1:00:32] and effective date.

[1:00:33] >> motion

[1:00:35] to approve.

[1:00:36] >> second?

[1:00:38] >> any comments?

[1:00:41] >> I have one if you don't mind.

[1:00:44] as a matter of public policy

[1:00:47] I have to

[1:00:50] make you justify a

[1:00:54] retroactive approval .

[1:00:56] just let me know who is at fault and

[1:00:57] we will move

[1:01:00] on.

[1:01:01] >> let me explain.

[1:01:06] this generally involves

[1:01:09] asphalt repairs.

[1:01:10] we budgeted $85,000. What happened

[1:01:12] was the budget and

[1:01:13] purchase order were two different

[1:01:15] dollar amounts.

[1:01:18] the purchase order was

[1:01:21] $19,000 .

[1:01:24] we were under the

[1:01:29] impression the purchase order was

[1:01:31] 85,000. To give the good service to residents

[1:01:33] and restoring the

[1:01:35] areas that need to be restored, I

[1:01:36] realized

[1:01:38] that we have a different po, I stop

[1:01:41] the job and basically we stopped everything.

[1:01:46] I do apologize about that but I did

[1:01:48] not realize about the

[1:01:49] purchase order or budget. We will

[1:01:51] pay attention a little bit more.

[1:01:53] >> I think you are an awesome leader.

[1:01:57] I would just

[1:01:59] ask that there be a reminder to the person

[1:02:02] who had the oversight of the policy

[1:02:05] . Essentially we would have done this

[1:02:06] anyway but

[1:02:09] it just lets us know about the crack

[1:02:12] in the system. Just a refresher

[1:02:18] .

[1:02:19] >> absolutely.

[1:02:20] I am the utilities director and city engineer

[1:02:21] . I

[1:02:24] am basically the one.

[1:02:27] what

[1:02:30] happens is we are going to train

[1:02:31] our employees because in the past

[1:02:33] when I realized they could

[1:02:37] enroll in the purchase orders and

[1:02:39] the budget

[1:02:41] . They are paying attention a little

[1:02:42] bit more.

[1:02:45] >> any more questions?

[1:02:47] >> commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

[1:02:51] commissioner katzman, commissioner shrouder.

[1:02:54] mayor curran.

[1:02:57] >> coordinates for

[1:03:00] first reading. 25-09 ordinance

[1:03:03] at cooper city

[1:03:05] . The good ordinance amending chapter 7

[1:03:09] article 4

[1:03:10] entitled fire assessments. Specifically

[1:03:12] section 7-22

[1:03:15] to amend the definition of

[1:03:18] tax collector.

[1:03:19] >> motion?

[1:03:24] second.

[1:03:26] I will second it . Any questions?

[1:03:30] >> just,

[1:03:35] this is just procedural.

[1:03:36] >> there is

[1:03:41] a companion item. There's a recent

[1:03:42] amendment to the florida constitution.

[1:03:44] over the years broward county has

[1:03:45] acted as the

[1:03:46] tax collector for assessments. Under

[1:03:48] a recent

[1:03:50] change to state law the county has

[1:03:54] its first actual tax collector constitutional

[1:03:57] office. This aligns the code with

[1:03:58] that

[1:03:59] new process, changes the tax collector

[1:04:00] to

[1:04:03] align with that as opposed

[1:04:06] to the county. There is a second item

[1:04:09] which provides for an agreement

[1:04:11] between the city and the new tax collector

[1:04:12] office to implement

[1:04:14] the collection of the fire assessment.

[1:04:15] I would also

[1:04:17] ask for a separate motion to approve

[1:04:18] that agreement

[1:04:21] to provide for the fire

[1:04:24] assessment collection.

[1:04:25] >> call the vote.

[1:04:30] >> so

[1:04:33] we will get an audit,

[1:04:36] an accounting of the

[1:04:39] tax collectors use of this? It seems like

[1:04:42] and overbilling.

[1:04:45] >> can

[1:04:48] we follow up on that?

[1:04:51] >> that is not the first? >>

[1:04:54] the first

[1:04:57] motion cleans up the code. The second

[1:05:00] asks for the agreement.

[1:05:03] >>

[1:05:05] commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

[1:05:08] commissioner katzman. Commissioner

[1:05:09] shrouder.

[1:05:12] mayor curran.

[1:05:18] >> motion for the

[1:05:19] agreement with the tax collector.

[1:05:21] >> second. Any discussion?

[1:05:24] >> further to these notes, the other

[1:05:25] question I

[1:05:27] was wondering is,

[1:05:30] is there a requirement

[1:05:33] for this statute

[1:05:36] allowing a tax collector to take

[1:05:39] the budget to 2% what she collects

[1:05:40] for

[1:05:42] the county commission . That would

[1:05:43] be a

[1:05:45] net increase of 70 million more. The

[1:05:48] question I had is,

[1:05:51] is that also

[1:05:54] our 2%.

[1:06:00] >> you

[1:06:03] know that the statute allows him

[1:06:06] to charge .

[1:06:15] >> there may not need to be an agreement.

[1:06:18] >> we could lose up

[1:06:21] to 2%.

[1:06:24] >> I understand what

[1:06:26] you are saying. I'm not aware of the

[1:06:27] need to have

[1:06:30] any discussion.

[1:06:31] >> on this we

[1:06:33] can lose up to 2%.

[1:06:36] we may not have to

[1:06:38] sign the agreement. The county commission

[1:06:39] told me they talked to the

[1:06:42] tax collector.

[1:06:45] they use

[1:06:47] the cost of 12 million to operate.

[1:06:51] 70 million more it

[1:06:54] will cost the county because

[1:06:56] they have the county to pay on there's

[1:07:00] I just want

[1:07:02] to be sure the department double checks

[1:07:03] that statute.

[1:07:09] >> imagine every city having to do that.

[1:07:14] >> this is when we are talking about

[1:07:15] cutting taxes

[1:07:18] . We have to look at the big pictures

[1:07:22] surrounding us.

[1:07:25] >> I

[1:07:26] am yes on this agreement. We should confirm,

[1:07:31] if it gets too costly

[1:07:34] --

[1:07:43] >> that is what it will

[1:07:46] cost us. Call the question.

[1:07:49] >>

[1:07:50] commissioner smith . Commissioner mallozzi.

[1:07:55] commissioner katzman.

[1:07:59] commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

[1:08:01] >> item 36. First reading of

[1:08:04] the ordinance city code of ordinance

[1:08:07] for article 2 entitled signs.

[1:08:10] temporary signs

[1:08:12] authorizing certain temporary signs

[1:08:13] for sponsors

[1:08:16] of the club establishing

[1:08:19] the sponsorship sign program for restrictions

[1:08:21] and regulations of proved temporary signs

[1:08:27] for severability and effective date.

[1:08:28] >> motion. >> second.

[1:08:31] >> any discussion.

[1:08:37] >> are you good? >> commissioner.

[1:08:39] >> thank you. Just pointing out .

[1:08:40] there

[1:08:43] is an

[1:08:45] item in there. I think this is the one

[1:08:50] . Basically my understanding of this

[1:08:52] is that they

[1:08:55] can only, the banners can only

[1:08:57] be in the color that the organization

[1:08:58] uses or

[1:09:01] decides to use?

[1:09:02] >>

[1:09:04] the plan

[1:09:07] is what color schemes

[1:09:10] are approved

[1:09:12] and then execute that.

[1:09:13] >> my only

[1:09:14] thought on

[1:09:15] that is particularly looking at it

[1:09:16] with

[1:09:17] the optimists, noting how the schools

[1:09:19] do it, most

[1:09:22] of the

[1:09:23] organizations are people who sponsor

[1:09:25] these kinds of things

[1:09:28] don't have the

[1:09:29] ability to create multiple ads in

[1:09:31] different color schemes. If we are

[1:09:33] going to approve it we have to approve

[1:09:34] it based on whatever

[1:09:37] measurement guideline

[1:09:40] you would assume

[1:09:43] that if the business

[1:09:46] colors are red, white, and blue

[1:09:49] they will do a red, white,

[1:09:51] blue add. I just want to be clear

[1:09:55] of my intent supporting this.

[1:09:58] we cannot limit color use

[1:10:01] . Obviously we will limit

[1:10:03] anything that is offensive or anything

[1:10:07] like that.

[1:10:08] >> to

[1:10:10] clarify on that,

[1:10:13] those unique colors

[1:10:15] are if they are going to do a framework

[1:10:19] porter. Cooper

[1:10:21] city high school has the red and black

[1:10:22] scroll around the signs to

[1:10:25] give them a uniform look. That

[1:10:28] is what that is written for.

[1:10:31] if

[1:10:32] it is jan's housecleaning services

[1:10:33] and her colors are completely different

[1:10:34] that

[1:10:37] is the interior part of the

[1:10:39] sign.

[1:10:40] >> I appreciate the clarification.

[1:10:45] >> it will be business --business

[1:10:46] as

[1:10:49] usual. Whatever

[1:10:52] the packages will be uniform.

[1:10:53] >> correct.

[1:10:55] they will come up with an exterior board

[1:10:58] . The interior part would be up to

[1:10:59] the

[1:11:01] business or the logo .

[1:11:04] >> really no changes.

[1:11:07] we are just approving it

[1:11:12] .

[1:11:13] >> the banner had specific sizes

[1:11:14] and locations.

[1:11:19] >> anymore discussion

[1:11:22] on that. Call the

[1:11:24] vote.

[1:11:25] >> commissioner smith. Commissioner mallozzi.

[1:11:26] commissioner katzman

[1:11:30] commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

[1:11:31] >> yes. >>

[1:11:34] item 37 ,

[1:11:37] chapter 23 of the city

[1:11:39] code of ordinance amending article 5

[1:11:43] , section 23

[1:11:46] ,

[1:11:49] eight foot maximum hedge height

[1:11:52] for severability and

[1:11:55] effective date.

[1:11:56] >> motion

[1:11:58] .

[1:12:01] >> second. Any discussion. Call the vote.

[1:12:04] >> commissioner smith

[1:12:07] , commissioner mallozzi. Commissioner katzman

[1:12:10] , mayor shrouder

[1:12:13] --commissioner shrouder. Mayor curran.

[1:12:16] >> yes. >> 38.

[1:12:19] 45-12 and ordinance

[1:12:22] for the city of florida development standards

[1:12:25] amending article 2

[1:12:28] . Section 25-23.

[1:12:34] construction, maintenance and location requirements.

[1:12:40] providing for conflicts, severability,

[1:12:43] effective date.

[1:12:46] >> motion. >> second. >>

[1:12:49] any discussion?

[1:12:50] >> I do. >>

[1:12:52] I just want to say we tried

[1:12:55] doing something like this

[1:12:57] several years ago. It did not come

[1:12:58] to fruition.

[1:13:01] right before this was shown

[1:13:03] to be on the agenda I received a call

[1:13:05] from a

[1:13:06] business in a shopping center saying,

[1:13:10] what can we do to get assigned so

[1:13:13] people passing by kancey we are in here.

[1:13:17] I said, it's funny

[1:13:18] you should say that. It's actually

[1:13:20] coming on the agenda.

[1:13:23] she was going to tell all

[1:13:24] the other businesses because they

[1:13:25] made her the person to call me. I

[1:13:29] know that businesses want this

[1:13:34] and a lot of them need this, especially the

[1:13:35] small ones because you

[1:13:38] are driving by not knowing.

[1:13:41] depending on the monument

[1:13:43] and everything else, everybody has

[1:13:44] a

[1:13:47] better shot. If you can

[1:13:50] get this into one business

[1:13:53] you will get them in there.

[1:13:56] >> called the vote?

[1:14:01] >> I just want to say I support this,

[1:14:05] but I would prefer and

[1:14:07] the examples the version that is on

[1:14:11] page 2 for a cleaner look

[1:14:14] . These are

[1:14:16] professional businesses that can pick

[1:14:20] their colors.

[1:14:23] this is basically

[1:14:26] white

[1:14:29] on black, white on gray.

[1:14:35] >> they could still have

[1:14:38] their design for a uniform and

[1:14:41] color scheme .

[1:14:44] >> nobody has them now.

[1:14:47] >> there was one approved

[1:14:50] just for the

[1:14:53] test.

[1:14:54] >> the center has

[1:14:56] round signs to the name of

[1:14:59] the center

[1:15:00] , not individual tenant families.

[1:15:05] >> do you understand

[1:15:07] what the commissioner is asking for.

[1:15:11] >> using the tenant panels to

[1:15:14] be a matching background color

[1:15:16] . They would still be able to have

[1:15:20] the trademark font and design

[1:15:23] but no color.

[1:15:26] let's say I wanted to do baskin-robbins

[1:15:31] if it said white lettering only I could

[1:15:32] not have peeing,

[1:15:35] purple, and blue.

[1:15:41] >> I think we are

[1:15:44] in agreement.

[1:15:47] >> I just wanted to thank

[1:15:50] community development

[1:15:52] . The residents that are speaking

[1:15:53] on behalf

[1:15:55] of businesses. Great job to the commission

[1:15:56] to

[1:15:59] look forward with the businesses

[1:16:01] in the community to help them out.

[1:16:05] I know this is a big deal so full

[1:16:06] support.

[1:16:08] thank you.

[1:16:11] >>

[1:16:13] commissioner smith, commissioner mallozzi,

[1:16:16] commissioner katzman, commissioner shrouder,

[1:16:20] mayor curran.

[1:16:21] >>

[1:16:23] yes.

[1:16:24] >>

[1:16:26] article 9 cost recovery amending

[1:16:32] cost recovery

[1:16:35] .

[1:16:38] the site plan amendments to

[1:16:41] include recent amendments

[1:16:43] . Provided for severability and affect date.

[1:16:47] >> motion. >> second.

[1:16:50] discussion. Commissioner smith.

[1:16:52] nothing.

[1:16:53] >> commissioner shrouder.

[1:16:56] >> anybody else. >> commissioner smith.

[1:16:59] commissioner mallozzi.

[1:17:01] commissioner katzman. Commissioner shrouder.

[1:17:05] mayor curran.

[1:17:08] >>

[1:17:11] two reports. One just to let

[1:17:14] you know we had a meeting

[1:17:17] . The public works for the city

[1:17:20] of pembroke

[1:17:22] pines. They have been working for

[1:17:23] a while with broward county

[1:17:26] . The proposal

[1:17:29] is that broward

[1:17:32] county will take over

[1:17:35] the maintenance

[1:17:37] of sharing the street between pine

[1:17:38] island and university.

[1:17:41] with the quid pro quo they were

[1:17:44] --pembroke pines will take

[1:17:47] pine island because they want to have control

[1:17:52] on the road. Our only responsibility

[1:17:56] is a hedge

[1:17:58] that is driving along the south side

[1:17:59] of sheridan

[1:18:02] at the boundary

[1:18:05] . It meanders around the hedge.

[1:18:08] the top of the hedge is

[1:18:11] the city and the other half

[1:18:14] is at pembroke pines.

[1:18:17] we would take that responsibility

[1:18:18] for

[1:18:20] that edge pick it is in

[1:18:22] really bad condition. They are coming

[1:18:23] to the disagreement which

[1:18:26] at this point is all

[1:18:29] discussion only.

[1:18:35] they will trim everything. They will

[1:18:38] replace all of the material that has

[1:18:39] died

[1:18:41] or decayed . There will be a contract

[1:18:45] which will be responsible

[1:18:48] for maintaining the hedge

[1:18:51] .

[1:18:52] >> why do we want to?

[1:18:54] >> what is the back story

[1:18:57] on this?

[1:19:00] >> first,

[1:19:02] hines wants to make a deal with the county.

[1:19:05] the county says we won't take it unless

[1:19:06] you

[1:19:08] take some of ours. That is in cooper city.

[1:19:11] pines wanted it for their residence.

[1:19:15] they were always

[1:19:17] maintaining the hedge. Now with the mixup,

[1:19:20] to make a deal we are now taking over

[1:19:21] .

[1:19:22] >> they are taking responsibility

[1:19:24] for sharing

[1:19:26] that between pine and university.

[1:19:30] >> who does it now?

[1:19:33] >> right now it is ours.

[1:19:35] >> this is on the same thing. What

[1:19:36] does that take

[1:19:38] over.

[1:19:39] >> they will be taking over

[1:19:40] any

[1:19:42] maintenance responsibility

[1:19:45] for the road in that section.

[1:19:48] >> that is not making

[1:19:51] sense to me.

[1:19:53] I feel like they probably did not

[1:19:54] give you the whole story

[1:19:57] but I feel like it is a trick.

[1:19:59] at one point they were trying to get up

[1:20:03] to give up that land

[1:20:06] and re-annex it to him.

[1:20:09] that does not make any

[1:20:12] sense to me . Doesn't montero maintain it?

[1:20:24] >> from university

[1:20:27] to pine island

[1:20:33] . We are

[1:20:34] not maintaining anything over there.

[1:20:39] we don't maintain that road.

[1:20:42] >> I

[1:20:45] understand it is in cooper city.

[1:20:48] >> I do not believe we

[1:20:51] did anything. Did we do

[1:20:54] anything on sheridan.

[1:21:00] for two weeks we

[1:21:03] drove past.

[1:21:05] I think they maintain that. It all

[1:21:06] --

[1:21:09] the whole thing looks horrible.

[1:21:12] the county handles the road.

[1:21:18] who does

[1:21:19] sheridan between university and pine

[1:21:21] island?

[1:21:22] >> landscape

[1:21:24] . Maintaining the road.

[1:21:26] this is just the maintenance agreement.

[1:21:30] >> commissioner shrouder.

[1:21:33] one of the directors

[1:21:36] , what will

[1:21:39] you say?

[1:21:40] >> that

[1:21:42] was the old agreement.

[1:21:45] based on the formation

[1:21:48] that we received from

[1:21:51] the county, so the county can take

[1:21:54] over that roadway to give you that

[1:21:57] roadway back.

[1:22:00] >> this is exactly how

[1:22:03] we got sterling roadway.

[1:22:08] >> this requires commission approval.

[1:22:09] >> can

[1:22:12] we get more background.

[1:22:19] although they have been maintaining

[1:22:21] it.

[1:22:22] >> they are

[1:22:24] saying that

[1:22:27] .

[1:22:28] >> they've been

[1:22:30] maintaining forever.

[1:22:36] >> there

[1:22:38] was a bike lane that went in. There

[1:22:39] were some

[1:22:42] areas were dedicated

[1:22:51] for multiple segments

[1:22:54] . There are a

[1:22:56] couple of segments that come up to

[1:23:00] the right-of-way.

[1:23:01] >>

[1:23:03] I know that

[1:23:05] mike bailey had sketches drafted where

[1:23:06] that was supposed

[1:23:09] to go back to the county after

[1:23:15] .

[1:23:16] >> the county has been maintaining

[1:23:18] the actual road

[1:23:21] . They have now determined they should

[1:23:22] not

[1:23:24] have been. Is that what you

[1:23:27] are saying?

[1:23:30] >> it was not supposed come in

[1:23:33] .

[1:23:34] >> now they are

[1:23:36] claiming it is. Now

[1:23:38] they want to take back what they are

[1:23:39] already maintaining

[1:23:42] .

[1:23:43] >> it sounds like

[1:23:45] from what the city manager said is that

[1:23:47] pembroke pines is going to take that

[1:23:48] responsibility from the county. Is

[1:23:51] that correct?

[1:23:52] >> pembroke pines

[1:23:54] wanted hein island

[1:23:57] .

[1:24:00] >>

[1:24:03] this was first

[1:24:05] engaged in 2019. There was conversation

[1:24:06] going on

[1:24:09] involving the

[1:24:12] d annexation issue.

[1:24:15] >> correct.

[1:24:17] >> just for the commission and knowledge

[1:24:21] ,

[1:24:24] they approved a conflict waiver and

[1:24:27] outside council will work on

[1:24:30] that

[1:24:33] . I have not been involved in any

[1:24:35] of this discussion. I do not have

[1:24:36] more knowledge than I just conveyed.

[1:24:37] I

[1:24:40] would hope that it would remain

[1:24:43] in place with the commission

[1:24:46] prior approval.

[1:24:49] we

[1:24:51] are not giving them any land.

[1:24:52] >> we

[1:24:53] were

[1:24:55] handling this.

[1:25:03] >> this hedge that really benefits pines

[1:25:07] benefits the residence.

[1:25:11] we will do what you want and make

[1:25:13] it look nice.

[1:25:18] broward county was maintaining the road

[1:25:22] . It

[1:25:24] sounds like broward county found out

[1:25:28] they should not

[1:25:29] have to do that. They want to take

[1:25:31] back what they've and maintaining

[1:25:34] . They will take

[1:25:36] it back in exchange for doing something

[1:25:42] with the hedge. I think we should

[1:25:43] get more information

[1:25:46] on that.

[1:25:49] and who does

[1:25:52] the median?

[1:25:55] we need more information

[1:25:58] .

[1:25:59] >> I know it

[1:26:00] does not seem like a big deal to everyone

[1:26:04] that is retaining. It is like a

[1:26:06] bait and switch in a way. We should

[1:26:07] have a little

[1:26:10] further insight

[1:26:19] . We did not agree

[1:26:22] to it.

[1:26:25] we are still doing it.

[1:26:30] they will never pay a recurring cost

[1:26:31] on

[1:26:34] it again.

[1:26:36] we will handle the speed limit signs

[1:26:40] . You can't make your own

[1:26:43] speeds anymore.

[1:26:46] >> so you are coming back.

[1:26:49] >> no direction

[1:26:52] right now.

[1:26:57] >> the other one is just to provide

[1:27:01] an update

[1:27:04] and try to get support for us

[1:27:07] .

[1:27:10] you will receive

[1:27:12] their conservation letter from bso

[1:27:16] .

[1:27:19] as you know we've basically said

[1:27:22] that we required bso to stay

[1:27:25] with them with the agreement that

[1:27:28] we had.

[1:27:34] when those letters

[1:27:37] were sent ,

[1:27:40] there is no negotiation here.

[1:27:43] you take that position,

[1:27:46] thank you very much but go back

[1:27:49] with you

[1:27:52] guys. Those are now looking at

[1:27:55] different options in

[1:27:57] terms of why they will be doing that

[1:27:58] in the future. Given

[1:28:01] the position they have taken

[1:28:03] they have not gotten back to us with

[1:28:04] any proposed contract

[1:28:07] .

[1:28:10] we

[1:28:12] sent a notice to review the contract

[1:28:13] a few months back.

[1:28:16] the contract is

[1:28:19] expired at the end of the year. We expect

[1:28:22] , I

[1:28:25] heard through the grapevine

[1:28:27] that they are not looking to set up

[1:28:28] the 5% capitol.

[1:28:31] they

[1:28:33] are basically open in the contract

[1:28:34] for whatever

[1:28:37] to give their employees

[1:28:40] the pass-through to cooper city

[1:28:46] without any input on those negotiations.

[1:28:49] I think for fiscal year

[1:28:52] 26, we have budgeted

[1:28:55] what they are asking for.

[1:29:00] we will try to continue to ask questions

[1:29:01] in terms of

[1:29:04] the details and

[1:29:06] consideration letter. There are a

[1:29:07] lot of individual line items that

[1:29:10] don't make sense in terms of overhead rate

[1:29:13] and the rights

[1:29:16] they are charging

[1:29:19] for the benefits

[1:29:25] . It's an

[1:29:26] overhead rate and a payment to the

[1:29:28] general fund

[1:29:37] what I've got

[1:29:40] ,

[1:29:43] I'm not paying for the full overhead

[1:29:46] . If

[1:29:49] it costs x amount of effort

[1:29:52] ,

[1:29:55] that is one

[1:29:57] thing but the cost of the sheriff

[1:29:58] is really --he

[1:30:01] does not get paid any more or less

[1:30:08] . We are still trying

[1:30:11] but I think in the long term

[1:30:14] what is the

[1:30:17] best way to provide services

[1:30:23] . Now

[1:30:26] that we are going to exercise

[1:30:29] these options

[1:30:31] with the approach that they have right now

[1:30:37] . It is a one-way direction where

[1:30:38] they say this

[1:30:41] is it . I do not go over

[1:30:44] the long-term

[1:30:50] .

[1:30:53] they are not really

[1:30:55] trying to solve that. The approaches

[1:30:56] there is

[1:30:58] a problem and we will try to find

[1:31:01] the solution . That is one approach

[1:31:02] but they are

[1:31:03] not following that. We already know

[1:31:07] what the solution is and he's the

[1:31:08] cost

[1:31:11] of that. My intent

[1:31:14] is to begin to work with staff and

[1:31:15] everything else in neighboring cities

[1:31:17] and find out

[1:31:23] what options are

[1:31:26] there.

[1:31:29] >>

[1:31:32] let me preface everything for

[1:31:33] anyone that does not know this but

[1:31:35] know that I support law

[1:31:38] enforcement and

[1:31:41] our fire department 1000%. Anyone that

[1:31:42] does

[1:31:43] not know that my husband has been

[1:31:44] in

[1:31:47] law enforcement for 30+ years. I

[1:31:50] know my ins and outs than I care to

[1:31:53] even think of. Second, I support

[1:32:01] our deputies 1000%. I think they are

[1:32:02] awesome and the

[1:32:05] fire contingent as well. What I

[1:32:08] don't support is the sheriff. I can

[1:32:10] think of a few choice words but I

[1:32:11] will be nice. What

[1:32:14] I want, you are looking for what we want,

[1:32:17] I don't want to be

[1:32:20] only looking at if I partner

[1:32:23] with hollywood pines or davie

[1:32:26] .

[1:32:28] in my opinion, this is just my opinion,

[1:32:29] we

[1:32:32] have the facilities, the cars.

[1:32:35] if

[1:32:36] I want to partner with coral springs

[1:32:38] and they want to give me

[1:32:40] extra men and they are here, I don't

[1:32:41] know if there is

[1:32:44] a legal issue but I did a little research.

[1:32:47] I was

[1:32:50] told you could do it

[1:32:52] if you get permission. I'm not an

[1:32:53] attorney. I don't profess to

[1:32:56] being a attorney. I don't want to

[1:32:59] limit myself to negotiating with

[1:33:00] just three cities because I'm being

[1:33:02] held over a barrel.

[1:33:05] I don't like bullies.

[1:33:06] I got into politics because I don't

[1:33:08] like bullies.

[1:33:10] I will start tolerating them at this

[1:33:11] point in my life.

[1:33:13] unless sheriff tony can give me an

[1:33:14] itemized forensic audit

[1:33:17] as to why one plus

[1:33:20] one he does two

[1:33:23] --

[1:33:26] one plus one equals two

[1:33:29] he should not

[1:33:31] get any increase. What he's asking for

[1:33:34] I think is above and beyond without

[1:33:35] any other proper backup

[1:33:38] we've been asking for for years. Even

[1:33:39] the

[1:33:40] county does not get it. I've spoken

[1:33:41] to steve geller

[1:33:43] on more occasions than I can count

[1:33:47] and I feel his frustration. They

[1:33:50] don't answer

[1:33:53] to us. I understand that but it does

[1:33:56] not make it acceptable. You have a

[1:33:59] contractual obligation. I

[1:34:01] understand that costs one up but you

[1:34:02] also made promises

[1:34:05] to people during your campaign

[1:34:07] . That apparently is on the back of

[1:34:08] my residence.

[1:34:11] don't make promises you can't keep

[1:34:14] with my pocketbook.

[1:34:16] that is unacceptable. Anything you

[1:34:17] can do. Again,

[1:34:20] I love you guys I

[1:34:22] think you are awesome. I think you

[1:34:23] are great,

[1:34:25] but if I have to privatize to save

[1:34:31] being strong-armed because it is what's

[1:34:32] best for

[1:34:35] my city and my residence, that

[1:34:38] is a step I'm willing to take.

[1:34:41] I want what is best for my residence

[1:34:42] and I

[1:34:44] don't want to be strong-armed. I have

[1:34:45] to be

[1:34:47] able to know what costs are

[1:34:50] . Just saying we will

[1:34:52] not have a contract in the future

[1:34:53] scares the heck out

[1:34:56] of me because you have me over a

[1:34:59] barrel. There are plenty of people --

[1:35:02] in my opinion we can take --

[1:35:05] all the deputies in the city

[1:35:08] bring them, keep them, have a nice day.

[1:35:11] not literally

[1:35:14] kidnapped them. Bring them.

[1:35:20] that is the reality.

[1:35:32] if we need to get permission for something

[1:35:36] then get it.

[1:35:39] I think in all honesty

[1:35:44] we need to make sure everybody thinks

[1:35:48] that way.

[1:35:51] that is the

[1:35:54] end of

[1:35:57] every single day.

[1:36:03] if I have to work within a budget

[1:36:06] so does the sheriff. Thank you.

[1:36:12] >> some questions.

[1:36:15] clarifications.

[1:36:21] the contract year

[1:36:24] with that

[1:36:27] be september 2025

[1:36:33] is there any

[1:36:35] meeting or invitation or anything

[1:36:36] that is

[1:36:39] supposed to happen .

[1:36:42] I feel that other officials have

[1:36:45] met and spoke to the leader

[1:36:47] of the organization. Are we expecting

[1:36:50] that here? Do you expect that with

[1:36:54] your constituents?

[1:36:59] >> from the city managers association

[1:37:02] to the meeting with the sheriff's office.

[1:37:03] I believe some

[1:37:05] people have been able to meet with

[1:37:09] the organization

[1:37:11] . I do not know any that have actually

[1:37:12] met

[1:37:15] with the sheriff.

[1:37:18] with the sheriff the only meeting

[1:37:21] we had was in april

[1:37:27] . He invited us.

[1:37:30] some of

[1:37:32] these top command people were there.

[1:37:36] >>

[1:37:37] outside of the city manager association,

[1:37:42] have you or staff

[1:37:44] asked him to meet with you, your staff?

[1:37:45] >>

[1:37:46] we

[1:37:48] can try .

[1:37:49] >> okay.

[1:37:51] I like that.

[1:37:54] there is a premier service

[1:38:00] for law enforcement and fire. I do

[1:38:01] not and would never support privatizing

[1:38:09] . If the

[1:38:10] municipality of cooper city decided

[1:38:12] the betterment

[1:38:14] was to go back to the business model

[1:38:15] that is different

[1:38:17] but I will not be looking to hire

[1:38:18] but

[1:38:21] a hospital district tires,

[1:38:22] some organization that was privatized.

[1:38:27] >>

[1:38:30] one can. Can

[1:38:33] you explain that a little bit?

[1:38:42] >> I have

[1:38:43] a point of information to what you just

[1:38:45] said. You said you

[1:38:47] are okay but not to privatize. I consider us

[1:38:48] if we

[1:38:51] had to that is what I

[1:38:54] considered.

[1:38:55] >> that is not

[1:38:57] what the term is identified as.

[1:39:00] >> I just want to clarify. If cooper

[1:39:01] city will have their own police department

[1:39:03] that is what I meant.

[1:39:06] >> I think you

[1:39:08] meant private organization. I do not

[1:39:11] want that. I apologize.

[1:39:12] >> mayor,

[1:39:13] your question to me

[1:39:15] was there is split services

[1:39:20] providing police service, law enforcement

[1:39:24] protection.

[1:39:30] I do not

[1:39:32] want to assume. I want to ask you

[1:39:36] . If you

[1:39:37] are talking about split service you

[1:39:39] look for one of the

[1:39:42] services provided so you have an idea

[1:39:43] of

[1:39:45] what you are thinking in your concern

[1:39:48] of pivoting.

[1:39:51] >> I think one is easier than

[1:39:54] the other . I think the

[1:39:56] fire service is easier. The complexity

[1:40:00] with the different branches

[1:40:03] and

[1:40:06] the fire service network

[1:40:12] agreements

[1:40:15] in cities.

[1:40:18] >> I can

[1:40:21] only speak,

[1:40:24] while I speak for myself

[1:40:30] . The issue was the concern for

[1:40:33] the leadership position

[1:40:36] that needs direction from us is the concern

[1:40:38] . Not the cost today but the position

[1:40:42] of cost

[1:40:45] . Is that where the line is?

[1:40:46] >>

[1:40:51] that is what I'm concerned about .

[1:40:52] even if

[1:40:54] you have a contract, the position

[1:40:57] he is taken

[1:41:06] when he determines there

[1:41:09] is a need for change.

[1:41:12] >> understood. The way

[1:41:15] it goes

[1:41:18] until september 30, 2025 ,

[1:41:21] is that,

[1:41:25] is he living in that

[1:41:26] contract means and then you are receiving

[1:41:28] a new proposal that

[1:41:31] then

[1:41:32] presents what you just specified?

[1:41:34] as the leader deems

[1:41:37] he is going to render that cost

[1:41:39] no matter what the contract says?

[1:41:46] >> that is what he put those

[1:41:49] in.

[1:41:55] >>

[1:41:57] he says no. I need to do this now.

[1:42:04] >> and so,

[1:42:07] for us as the electorates

[1:42:10] that have to

[1:42:12] give some direction when we will receive

[1:42:13] back from

[1:42:16] you notification

[1:42:18] when we have to start having further

[1:42:19] discussions

[1:42:22] because they have not responded.

[1:42:24] is this something we are talking within

[1:42:25] the next 48 hours out

[1:42:27] of your office we will have an invitation

[1:42:28] to

[1:42:31] come and speak or however that

[1:42:34] will work?

[1:42:37] >> I will coordinate with

[1:42:40] the mayor.

[1:42:46] we will do that.

[1:42:52] we do the analysis and start doing

[1:42:55] the legwork . It is going

[1:42:58] to take time

[1:43:00] . Fortunately we have some good resources.

[1:43:01] we

[1:43:04] will be talking to them

[1:43:07] more individually.

[1:43:16] it

[1:43:18] is probably better to have that feedback

[1:43:25] >> any

[1:43:28] discussions between your self

[1:43:31] and the advisory board?

[1:43:34] thank you.

[1:43:40] >> so, I kind of

[1:43:42] want to echo a lot of the points commissioner

[1:43:43] mallozzi

[1:43:46] made about the lack of

[1:43:47] accountability and transparency. First

[1:43:49] of all,

[1:43:52] I want to commend the team

[1:43:55] . I should recognize I 100%

[1:43:58] support the law enforcement and

[1:44:00] fire team. It's not about you all

[1:44:01] individually or your teams that

[1:44:04] serve cooper city

[1:44:12] . I do think there has been a lack

[1:44:13] of transparency and

[1:44:16] it has been unprofessional to not

[1:44:17] show up and support your contract

[1:44:19] cities. The city managers are the

[1:44:20] ceos

[1:44:22] of the

[1:44:24] contract cities and should be respected

[1:44:25] the way the sheriff wants

[1:44:28] to be respected.

[1:44:30] I'm also concerned that the lack of

[1:44:31] transparency in the budget is

[1:44:33] due to waste. We see what is going on

[1:44:37] publicly. With

[1:44:46] the fact that

[1:44:52] doge is about to

[1:44:54] investigate the sheriff according

[1:44:55] to sunsentinel.

[1:44:58] we should be concerned and I

[1:45:01] support you doing that. In prioritizing

[1:45:02] the

[1:45:04] fact that our residents demand

[1:45:07] the highest level of service in our

[1:45:10] public safety. That and passing the budget

[1:45:13] are our to

[1:45:15] only jobs if we had to pick two. Thank you.

[1:45:25] >>

[1:45:26] my favorite employee at the sheriff's

[1:45:28] office is robin. I will

[1:45:31] say this . We have

[1:45:34] a hat to put on

[1:45:37] for the best interest of cooper city

[1:45:40] . I

[1:45:42] plan on providing the best law enforcement

[1:45:46] . I think the

[1:45:48] sheriff's office does a great job.

[1:45:49] if we were ever forced to leave

[1:45:52] I would also

[1:45:55] not want to privatize.

[1:46:01] I hope that is not the

[1:46:03] case because I do not plan to hire

[1:46:04] police or firefighters.

[1:46:07] I think in

[1:46:10] the past we have shown that we are

[1:46:13] serious about public safety. We have amended

[1:46:16] our contracts, adding resources

[1:46:19] but we've also shown

[1:46:22] that we want to be serious participants

[1:46:25] in our public safety policy. The sheriff

[1:46:28] is a very

[1:46:30] smart man. He's a doctor and I think

[1:46:33] he understands we cannot sign a contract

[1:46:34] with no caps. Especially on

[1:46:37] the heels

[1:46:40] of the state talking time and time

[1:46:43] again about

[1:46:45] reducing or getting rid of property

[1:46:46] tax. Even if we know it's

[1:46:49] not realistic. Every bit of

[1:46:51] the conversation has been about reduction,

[1:46:55] going the other way. Right now we collect

[1:46:58] $25 million or $26 million

[1:47:01] in property tax . We just have to,

[1:47:08] I am hoping you get a

[1:47:09] call and they want to come negotiate

[1:47:11] like they've done every time.

[1:47:12] we are always willing to pay fair

[1:47:14] market value but if not

[1:47:15] and they need to go a separate direction

[1:47:17] because

[1:47:18] maybe they have other things they have

[1:47:20] to worry about them

[1:47:22] we will have to do whatever we need

[1:47:23] to

[1:47:25] do to supply that same level of excellent

[1:47:26] public

[1:47:27] safety to residents. Hopefully it

[1:47:29] works out

[1:47:32] .

[1:47:33] >> I will

[1:47:35] and

[1:47:36] that by saying this. The bar has been

[1:47:38] set for public safety in

[1:47:41] cooper city. The residence

[1:47:44] demand it.

[1:47:53] nothing

[1:47:54] gets them here quicker than talking

[1:47:55] about changing colors of fire trucks

[1:47:56] or

[1:47:57] police cars. He has created a market

[1:47:59] that is untouched by

[1:48:02] anyone else . With all I have

[1:48:08] I hope that they come

[1:48:09] to the table and do the right thing

[1:48:11] for the residents of

[1:48:12] our county and cooper city. That's

[1:48:14] where I'm leaving that for right now.

[1:48:17] city managers report.

[1:48:18] >>

[1:48:19] I am done.

[1:48:20] >> commissioner concerns

[1:48:23] . Public input.

[1:48:29] commissioner smith.

[1:48:32] >> thank you. In this

[1:48:35] moment I want to say welcome

[1:48:38] to our new lieutenant. I've

[1:48:41] been receiving updates on what is

[1:48:42] going

[1:48:43] on in the city that is pertinent to us

[1:48:47] and I

[1:48:48] appreciate that. Communication is

[1:48:50] a big deal

[1:48:52] and if hit the ground running. Thank

[1:48:53] you for that

[1:48:55] and welcome. Thank you to the staff

[1:48:56] and thank you for putting

[1:48:59] in the hours so we can make the

[1:49:01] right decisions for the city. I yield.

[1:49:02] >>

[1:49:05] commissioner mallozzi.

[1:49:11] >> welcome.

[1:49:14] I hope you get to stay

[1:49:16] and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

[1:49:19] thank you to staff because budget

[1:49:20] season is miserable

[1:49:23] . It is

[1:49:24] extra long hours so I appreciate all

[1:49:26] that you do. By the time

[1:49:28] we meet again I believe school will

[1:49:29] be in session

[1:49:32] . If I could ask

[1:49:35] the city manager

[1:49:37] to approve my asking mr. Cabello to

[1:49:38] be sure we

[1:49:40] put some announcements out there about

[1:49:44] traffic patterns, no parking or

[1:49:47] staging in the street, watch

[1:49:49] for the children that will be walking because

[1:49:53] while

[1:49:56] I think everybody will remember,

[1:49:58] there might just be that one person

[1:49:59] that goes zooming down.

[1:50:02] everything we

[1:50:04] can do to let everybody know what

[1:50:05] is going on and remind them

[1:50:08] about it. I hope

[1:50:10] everybody enjoys the rest of their summer.

[1:50:13] >> commissioner katzman. >> thank you.

[1:50:20] one softy and one business item. I

[1:50:22] want to thank the team . Everybody

[1:50:23] has been working really

[1:50:26] hard this summer. We had

[1:50:29] a sinkhole, we have had

[1:50:32] the finance team, parks and rec,

[1:50:35] every single department has been

[1:50:38] working nonstop. We

[1:50:41] appreciate you. The business

[1:50:44] item I have, we alluded to this in

[1:50:45] the

[1:50:47] last meeting in the

[1:50:49] budget meeting. I think we need to

[1:50:50] address the

[1:50:53] fpl issue. A lot of people

[1:50:56] have given -- been complaining that

[1:50:59] the power surges are

[1:51:02] damaging their appliances.

[1:51:05] we discussed a resolution directing

[1:51:06] the city

[1:51:07] attorney's office to draft a resolution.

[1:51:08] voting on

[1:51:11] it tonight due to the timing

[1:51:14] and knowing the next meeting is not

[1:51:17] until the end of august.

[1:51:23] >> I would ask for a motion

[1:51:26] to adopt the resolution

[1:51:29] as drafted

[1:51:32] by the city attorney.

[1:51:33] >>

[1:51:35] that would be consistent to the budget

[1:51:38] issue earlier.

[1:51:41] we will provide that to you.

[1:51:44] >> just send a copy to the public

[1:51:47] services commissioner. Inc. You.

[1:51:50] >> I will second that. >>

[1:51:53] call a vote.

[1:51:56] >> commissioner smith

[1:51:59] , commissioner mallozzi,

[1:52:01] commissioner katzman, commissioner shrouder,

[1:52:05] mayor curran.

[1:52:08] >> commissioner shrouder. >>

[1:52:11] nothing.

[1:52:12] >> thank you

[1:52:13] staff, everybody, everybody online.

[1:52:14] we will go to

[1:52:17] citizens input.

[1:52:20] >> there were some budget items

[1:52:23] in the budget that I wanted to bring

[1:52:24] up. How

[1:52:26] does that get added? Is that another opportunity?

[1:52:30] >>

[1:52:33] just the line item concerns.

[1:52:36] >>

[1:52:37] sounds good.

[1:52:38] >> do you want to do

[1:52:39] that now?

[1:52:40] >>

[1:52:42] kassman brought up

[1:52:45] homeowners association

[1:52:48] enforcement.

[1:52:51] I don't want to add

[1:52:52] a whole person but I figured we should earmark

[1:52:54] some money to do a

[1:52:57] test on that.

[1:53:00] code people cost like

[1:53:03] 200 so we can't do that,

[1:53:11] >> if you hire a crossing guard it

[1:53:12] would come

[1:53:15] out cheaper. Another thing

[1:53:18] to coordinate a little bit more .

[1:53:19] they use to handle it but now they

[1:53:21] got stripped

[1:53:24] with commercial vehicles.

[1:53:30] we can't

[1:53:32] double the code budget but what do you

[1:53:34] think would be a reasonable amount?

[1:53:36] the other one

[1:53:42] the pet project was the

[1:53:45] twist thing.

[1:53:48] we gave her a line item

[1:53:51] .

[1:53:53] he said he was going to give me the

[1:53:54] 20

[1:53:56] but it only gets spent when we use it.

[1:54:03] >> she says

[1:54:06] 10 to 20.

[1:54:09] >> anything to do with

[1:54:12] the police they love to do it.

[1:54:15] >> that was easy.

[1:54:18] anything else?

[1:54:19] >> come

[1:54:21] on up.

[1:54:30] >> good evening.

[1:54:33] peach lake the current president

[1:54:36] of the [ inaudible

[1:54:39] ] club.

[1:54:42] I know that

[1:54:43] we spent four or five months negotiating

[1:54:45] the new operating agreement. When

[1:54:46] we

[1:54:48] met I understood the that it was

[1:54:50] so we all can work better together.

[1:54:51] we've had the document

[1:54:54] signed for maybe

[1:54:57] four, five, six weeks. I thought

[1:54:58] I would bring a summary of what's

[1:55:00] happened so far. The club

[1:55:03] has hired an attorney

[1:55:06] . We are rewriting

[1:55:08] our articles of incorporation and bylaws

[1:55:12] we are

[1:55:13] rebidding insurance based on the new

[1:55:15] requirements. We are adding

[1:55:18] checks and balance policy

[1:55:21] or program to the club.

[1:55:24] we have a cpa stepping up to be the

[1:55:25] treasurer

[1:55:26] to work with the bookkeeper to put

[1:55:27] policies and procedures

[1:55:30] in place.

[1:55:32] we offered commissioner shrouder to join

[1:55:33] us and

[1:55:35] help us make the policies and procedures

[1:55:39] although he said it may be

[1:55:41] a waste of time he still said that

[1:55:42] he would make an effort

[1:55:45] to do it. We

[1:55:47] are working to standardize the sponsorship

[1:55:48] . We are

[1:55:51] working to standardize the banners

[1:55:54] and we are testing

[1:56:00] the

[1:56:01] rec program with the softball program.

[1:56:03] with also happen with the

[1:56:06] new agreement ,

[1:56:09] you guys have ordered an audit of

[1:56:10] the property.

[1:56:12] commissioner shrouder has asked

[1:56:15] for bank statements

[1:56:17] . I offered backup information because

[1:56:18] bank statements without

[1:56:21] backup information

[1:56:24] is kind of shooting in the dark.

[1:56:25] he did not want the backup statements.

[1:56:27] now I understand he's

[1:56:28] putting together a list of questions

[1:56:30] on bank statements that could have

[1:56:32] been answered with the backup information.

[1:56:36] we had an accusation that

[1:56:39] we are purposely telling parents

[1:56:42] not to sign up on the rec track

[1:56:45] program purposely. Farthest from

[1:56:48] the truth. We have

[1:56:50] emails glory going back and forth

[1:56:51] trying to figure it out

[1:56:54] because it is not going smoothly currently.

[1:56:57] we had a request

[1:57:00] from the rec

[1:57:02] department that any and all issues

[1:57:03] that

[1:57:05] occur should be reported to the city.

[1:57:06] we agree when there's

[1:57:09] an incident and an injury

[1:57:11] a form should be filled out and sent

[1:57:12] to the city

[1:57:15] .

[1:57:18] a request of any incident. A shouting

[1:57:19] match or

[1:57:20] coach being ejected from one game,

[1:57:24] everything should be reported to the city

[1:57:25] . Very

[1:57:27] difficult to do

[1:57:34] >> can I ask you

[1:57:37] a question

[1:57:43] >> [ inaudible - low

[1:57:46] volume ]

[1:57:49] >> I

[1:57:52] get notified by optimist members

[1:57:55] of resident saying different things

[1:57:58] took place

[1:57:59] where a kid was kicked in the face,

[1:58:01] fighting over a ball

[1:58:03] , a parent was threatened by a coach.

[1:58:06] when incidents like this take place

[1:58:07] we need

[1:58:08] to be notified before the residence

[1:58:10] start to call

[1:58:11] in saying something and our partner

[1:58:13] has not

[1:58:15] told us these things took place. I

[1:58:19] spoke to them today and we

[1:58:20] went over in detail things that we

[1:58:22] would like. When there is

[1:58:23] an incident with a shouting match

[1:58:26] or anything where somebody needs to

[1:58:28] be ejected from the school

[1:58:30] or fields we need to be notified whether

[1:58:34] a simple email or text message that

[1:58:37] something has happened . If the

[1:58:38] police are called we should be notified.

[1:58:40] I could not --

[1:58:41] should not find out from a parent

[1:58:43] passing me in the park.

[1:58:46] I should already know.

[1:58:47] >>

[1:58:49] maybe the city should have

[1:58:52] a

[1:58:53] representative to watch what goes on.

[1:58:55] I don't know. It is difficult to

[1:58:58] say a coach shouted out a parent

[1:59:00] so we suspended the coach for a game.

[1:59:01] I

[1:59:04] don't know.

[1:59:10] the most disturbing thing that

[1:59:12] has occurred. In a meeting with commissioner shrouder,

[1:59:15] he believes the current leadership

[1:59:16] of the program adds

[1:59:19] no value

[1:59:20] to the program.

[1:59:21] >> those were your

[1:59:22] words.

[1:59:23] >> those were

[1:59:25] your words. We are

[1:59:28] going to do our best

[1:59:31] to work as we were proposed to,

[1:59:34] to make this new agreement work

[1:59:36] and work together in a better fashion.

[1:59:37] if

[1:59:39] at any time this commission feels

[1:59:40] we are

[1:59:43] not providing an adequate service

[1:59:44] anymore

[1:59:45] and you want to go somewhere else

[1:59:46] tell us and we

[1:59:49] will find a way to wind down the

[1:59:52] programs. Otherwise

[1:59:55] this is

[1:59:58] in four or six weeks. We are

[2:00:01] spending money, we are

[2:00:03] trying to make a ton of changes. We

[2:00:04] have bank

[2:00:07] statements, audits, accusations,

[2:00:10] telling people not to use

[2:00:13] rec track .

[2:00:16] we are

[2:00:17] currently in this for the long run,

[2:00:21] we want to make it work. Some of you

[2:00:22] know some of

[2:00:23] this. I don't think any of you know

[2:00:25] all of it. That is where we

[2:00:28] are as of today.

[2:00:31] let's hope

[2:00:33] we can move forward in a friendly

[2:00:34] and cooperative manner.

[2:00:35] >>

[2:00:37] I would like to respond to some

[2:00:40] of that.

[2:00:43] I was going to try to be positive

[2:00:44] suggest

[2:00:45] to give a small example. Under the

[2:00:46] agreement adopted

[2:00:48] when we left the workshop it said

[2:00:49] they would be subject to

[2:00:52] the same as us. They had a

[2:00:54] concern when the language came out

[2:00:58] that anybody could request your text

[2:00:59] message

[2:01:00] and anything . So through the manager

[2:01:01] they

[2:01:04] were pushing to limit that language.

[2:01:05] the manager

[2:01:07] asked me and I said I do not agree. Finally,

[2:01:10] against my better judgment

[2:01:13] the manager convinced me to say financial records.

[2:01:16] same public records laws as

[2:01:19] us. Of course, three agreement

[2:01:22] is executed and I ask for public records

[2:01:25] and I am told no.

[2:01:28] so then I have to go to the meeting.

[2:01:30] when I go to the meeting amongst all

[2:01:31] the other things that happened,

[2:01:34] two sports pass out budgets

[2:01:37] . I am looking at the budget.

[2:01:43] they say don't take pictures.

[2:01:46] they vote

[2:01:49] on these

[2:01:52] and want them back . While they argue

[2:01:55] with me I hear this noise in the background

[2:01:58] going the whole time. It clicks.

[2:02:01] I said, are you shredding documents

[2:02:04] . I said, why would you.

[2:02:07] they vote, they pass the budget. They

[2:02:10] vote on them and shred it .

[2:02:16] >> that is not the entire story.

[2:02:19] >> maybe

[2:02:22] appointive information. Is at

[2:02:24] least a copy provided in the minutes

[2:02:25] so that way

[2:02:27] if joe public wants to look at it

[2:02:28] they have it.

[2:02:31] >> it is open for

[2:02:34] public ex--- inspection.

[2:02:37] >> I told you that. >>

[2:02:39] I'm concerned. The investigator from

[2:02:40] the state

[2:02:43] said they asked for minutes and you

[2:02:44] had no minutes

[2:02:46] for many board meetings.

[2:02:49] >> I cannot tell you

[2:02:52] what has happened with the past president.

[2:02:55] under my leadership minutes are being taken,

[2:02:59] reports are being kept.

[2:03:03] >> why would you be allowed to have

[2:03:05] a budget that

[2:03:06] is in the minutes but I cannot take

[2:03:08] a picture.

[2:03:09] >> that has been

[2:03:10] our policy. You want a copy of it,

[2:03:11] ask for it through the

[2:03:13] channels. Right now all of the requests

[2:03:14] are

[2:03:17] coming from you .

[2:03:18] >> remember

[2:03:20] we had this discussion.

[2:03:23] >> you told me I'm

[2:03:24] the only one that complains. We had

[2:03:26] this discussion. The role

[2:03:28] readopted said all financial records

[2:03:29] shall be open for

[2:03:30] public inspection pursuant to the

[2:03:32] same standards.

[2:03:37] that doesn't mean the city. Anyone

[2:03:38] from the public can

[2:03:39] request it. I told you there is an

[2:03:41] organization called

[2:03:42] optimist international that post their

[2:03:44] budget online so I

[2:03:47] don't know why it has to be

[2:03:48] secretive. The assistant director

[2:03:50] was at the meeting. Where

[2:03:52] they not shredding the will time.

[2:03:53] >> shredding the

[2:03:56] whole time.

[2:03:58] >> the copy is maintained for the

[2:03:59] public in the

[2:04:02] record.

[2:04:03] >> as long as there's a copy

[2:04:04] maintained you don't need 40 copies.

[2:04:05] >> I can't take

[2:04:07] a picture.

[2:04:08] >> I do not agree with

[2:04:09] the photo.

[2:04:11] I am going to agree with you

[2:04:14] on the photo but I'm also to agree

[2:04:17] that a copy of

[2:04:20] the budget in the minutes works. Anyone

[2:04:23] that wants it can have it.

[2:04:29] >>

[2:04:31] I did not come here to argue. I'm

[2:04:32] not

[2:04:35] arguing for anyone.

[2:04:38] we just listened

[2:04:41] to pete give us a list

[2:04:44] of things he and his current board

[2:04:47] or current

[2:04:49] people are working on , things that

[2:04:53] they have accomplished

[2:04:55] in the past couple of months to try

[2:04:56] to

[2:04:59] bring everything up to

[2:05:02] a standard that is what we are

[2:05:05] looking for. Those are my words and

[2:05:06] I'm

[2:05:08] paraphrasing. First, thank you.

[2:05:11] for what you have done so far

[2:05:14] because there is nothing

[2:05:16] wrong with saying thank you for attempting

[2:05:17] to do right.

[2:05:20] it is not done. They

[2:05:23] are not saying it is done but it's

[2:05:25] a step in the right direction. I also

[2:05:26] want to clarify I had

[2:05:28] a conversation. Yesterday I believe

[2:05:32] because in

[2:05:35] their defense or an

[2:05:37] softballs defense, I've gotten complaints

[2:05:38] that at the time

[2:05:41] three

[2:05:44] forms of photo I.d. Were needed to register.

[2:05:47] three forms of I.d. An

[2:05:49] electric bill, water bill, drivers

[2:05:50] license

[2:05:53] to say

[2:05:55] your cooper city resident. I said

[2:05:56] to the city manager,

[2:05:59] I understand what we are trying to

[2:06:00] do.

[2:06:01] we want to make sure the people that

[2:06:02] are actually residence our

[2:06:05] residents, not people

[2:06:07] registered at the address that we

[2:06:08] know is bogus. But

[2:06:11] I said to the city manager

[2:06:14] if I go to

[2:06:16] the city clerk office and try to get

[2:06:17] a passport,

[2:06:20] a united

[2:06:21] states document that will allow me

[2:06:23] to travel outside of the

[2:06:26] united states. I only need if

[2:06:29] I remember correctly one form of photo I.d.

[2:06:32] in addition to the passport photo.

[2:06:35] I need one form

[2:06:38] of I.d. I asked the city manager.

[2:06:41] they are having problems with people navigating

[2:06:44] the website because it

[2:06:46] is asking for three forms of I.d.

[2:06:47] to register for

[2:06:49] girl softball which in my opinion

[2:06:50] was a little excessive.

[2:06:52] I said to the city manager can we

[2:06:56] change the wording on the registration

[2:06:57] to say

[2:06:59] you will be asked for your

[2:07:01] drivers license, form of a photo I.d.

[2:07:02] showing you are a

[2:07:05] cooper city resident and somehow

[2:07:08] , leave it up to jacob to figure

[2:07:11] out the language, right if we need

[2:07:12] additional proof

[2:07:14] we are entitled to ask for it

[2:07:17] before everything is done. He

[2:07:20] said, logical. Good, done,

[2:07:23] I also asked because

[2:07:29] the commissioner of softball is not

[2:07:30] getting any

[2:07:31] reports. I said can we make it so

[2:07:32] he gets a report every

[2:07:35] two or three

[2:07:37] ditch days. Apparently josh was already

[2:07:38] on it and has it

[2:07:41] somehow in the system.

[2:07:44] they are slowly working

[2:07:47] on their end. We are working

[2:07:50] on our end. Give them breathing space.

[2:07:54] and you,

[2:07:57] kudos to you

[2:08:00] for agreeing to work together to

[2:08:03] come to

[2:08:07] a better policy, better procedures

[2:08:09] that will be great for

[2:08:10] everyone. Great for both of you for

[2:08:12] agreeing to that.

[2:08:15] >> difficulty with the

[2:08:16] rec track at the moment I believe

[2:08:18] is

[2:08:21] we are changing 30 years

[2:08:24] of habit .

[2:08:26] telling everybody sign up at the optimist

[2:08:27] club

[2:08:30] and you are in.

[2:08:31] our softball commissioner has sent

[2:08:33] emails

[2:08:35] and everything out. It is hard to

[2:08:36] change

[2:08:39] human habits. We are working to get

[2:08:42] everybody to do it .

[2:08:44] it does not happen in the snap of

[2:08:45] a finger.

[2:08:48] josh is working with us to

[2:08:50] try to make it easier but it's not

[2:08:51] because

[2:08:52] we are telling people not to do it

[2:08:56] . It is hard to change the habit of

[2:08:57] so

[2:09:00] many years.

[2:09:01] >> I believe the

[2:09:02] operations to them. I just want to

[2:09:03] know, do you

[2:09:06] guys agree

[2:09:11] that the financial records are subject to

[2:09:12] the same standards

[2:09:13] as public records.

[2:09:14] >> I will tell you

[2:09:15] I have gone

[2:09:16] through perplexity and everything about

[2:09:21] our bank payments

[2:09:24] part of standard

[2:09:25] financial disclosure statements. It

[2:09:27] says no and everything I've

[2:09:30] researched. Everything.

[2:09:33] I am willing to work with the commission.

[2:09:36] we are not hiding stuff.

[2:09:39] I stood up here and told

[2:09:40] you individually, I will tell you

[2:09:42] I am unable to

[2:09:45] find it out

[2:09:48] of every source I can go to

[2:09:50] that supposedly gives us all the answers

[2:09:51] today they

[2:09:54] all say it is not the standard

[2:09:57] part of

[2:09:58] financial disclosures.

[2:09:59] >> just fyi

[2:10:03] and jacob tell me if I'm wrong,

[2:10:06] as a 501(c)(3),

[2:10:09] and I believe I gave someone this explanation.

[2:10:12] I can live in california and

[2:10:15] pick you out of a hat and say,

[2:10:17] cooper city optimist I want your financials.

[2:10:21] because you are a 501(c)(3) you are

[2:10:22] governed to

[2:10:23] give them to me. If you say no I go

[2:10:24] to

[2:10:27] the state and say cooper city optimist

[2:10:30] 501(c)(3) is not compliant.

[2:10:33] the state will say yes you do

[2:10:35] because if you don't you lose your

[2:10:36] 501(c)(3).

[2:10:38] >> we are not arguing that point.

[2:10:41] a financial is a bank statement.

[2:10:42] >>

[2:10:43] it

[2:10:45] is not. I'm willing

[2:10:47] to do it because I'm not going to

[2:10:48] hide anything from

[2:10:50] you guys.

[2:10:51] >> this is the thing. I

[2:10:52] just want

[2:10:53] to clarify. It's a lot of miscommunication.

[2:10:57] please answer this question. I want

[2:10:58] to

[2:10:59] read you exactly what the language

[2:11:00] says.

[2:11:03] the intent of the provision is

[2:11:05] to ensure that any have no financial

[2:11:06] records shall be

[2:11:08] retained for not less than five years

[2:11:12] for public inspection pursuant to

[2:11:13] the

[2:11:15] same standards .

[2:11:18] that is what it says. A bank statement,

[2:11:21] is that a financial record.

[2:11:24] >> generally speaking the bank statements

[2:11:29] .

[2:11:30] >> if somebody walked off the streets

[2:11:31] and asked for

[2:11:33] a copy of bank statements we can

[2:11:35] mark out the account number but we

[2:11:36] have to produce it.

[2:11:38] are you agreeing to the same standards.

[2:11:42] >> I am willing to give you the

[2:11:45] bank statement.

[2:11:46] >> any person.

[2:11:48] when I asked for it and you

[2:11:51] said no.

[2:11:52] >> we did not feel it was

[2:11:53] part of the financial statements.

[2:11:56] they were not part of financials.

[2:11:57] >> we are

[2:12:00] in agreement that it is .

[2:12:02] >> look it up. 501(c)(3) organization

[2:12:06] >>

[2:12:09] a 501(c)(3) is generally

[2:12:12] not required to file bank statements.

[2:12:15] there are financial filings they are

[2:12:16] required

[2:12:18] to file. The agreement subjects

[2:12:26] the optimist club to chapter 119 which

[2:12:27] is more detailed.

[2:12:30] the city under the agreement

[2:12:33] not under the internal revenue code

[2:12:34] or other

[2:12:36] federal law have agreed to provide

[2:12:39] that information in accordance with

[2:12:40] state law.

[2:12:45] >>

[2:12:47] I just want to clarify one more thing.

[2:12:48] the financial statement

[2:12:51] does not include

[2:12:54] bank statements.

[2:12:57] the bank statement is the financial record.

[2:13:03] >>

[2:13:06] yes. He agreed.

[2:13:12] I know without a doubt knowing you

[2:13:15] you will get one of your friends to

[2:13:18] walk in and say I want a bank

[2:13:20] statement and they will give it to them.

[2:13:24] >> you say that but they said no to

[2:13:25] me and I

[2:13:27] had to go to the board meeting.

[2:13:33] >>

[2:13:37] please understand

[2:13:38] that I'm confused right now because

[2:13:39] I feel like lisa is defending you

[2:13:40] and

[2:13:43] there's no need on

[2:13:44] your side. It seems like you have

[2:13:46] clearly outlined where they

[2:13:49] are at.

[2:13:54] I will say from the perspective everything

[2:13:56] you've outlined, thank you. I would

[2:13:58] like to know

[2:14:01] I want to know what

[2:14:04] the hurdles are.

[2:14:07] I will also say

[2:14:09] in defense to my colleague in this

[2:14:16] individuals here that represent

[2:14:18] the city, they are why you came back

[2:14:22] after many years

[2:14:23] of being retired was because there

[2:14:25] was issues.

[2:14:28] I

[2:14:30] think that when there is a rejection

[2:14:34] to topics that are outlined it

[2:14:37] brings up concern .

[2:14:40] you clarifying and saying

[2:14:43] that

[2:14:46] on the record .

[2:14:50] I hope we get everything squared away

[2:14:52] for you.

[2:15:01] >>

[2:15:03] I am not defending anyone. I am clarifying.

[2:15:13] >> no other comments.

[2:15:16] >> motion to adjourn .

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