[0:00] The meeting to order.

[0:02] >> good morning, colleagues, staff,

[0:03] members of the public, it is 9:02 a.m.

[0:07] on august 25, 2026.

[0:08] we are calling this regular meeting of

[0:10] the san mateo county board of

[0:12] supervisors to order.

[0:13] we'll start with having the clerk of

[0:15] the board provide information on how

[0:17] the public can parts pay in this

[0:19] meeting.

[0:20] >> members of public, the

[0:22] instructions to participate in today's

[0:24] meeting can be found on the published

[0:26] agenda.

[0:27] these instructions provide information

[0:28] on how to submit written comments and

[0:29] is how to participate via zoom.

[0:32] live interpretation of this entire

[0:33] meeting already provided in spanish.

[0:36] to access live interpretation

[0:38] services, click the interpretation

[0:40] globe icon, select the spanish

[0:44] language.

[0:45] select the three dot menu, select

[0:47] interpretation, select spanish and

[0:48] click done.

[0:49] I'll ask victor hernandez to provide

[0:52] these instructions in spanish.

[0:53] >> thank you very much, kim.

[0:55] good morning, president corzo,

[0:57] honorable supervisors, mr. Callagy,

[1:02] mr. Mates, mr. Nibbelin, victor

[1:07] hernandez, spanish interpreter.

[1:10] ( interpreting in spanish ).

[1:50] >> thank you very much.

[1:56] >> thank you, kim and victor.

[1:59] with that, we will move on.

[2:04] sorry, let me find my agenda here.

[2:09] too many tabs open, here we go, thank

[2:11] you for those instructions.

[2:13] we'll now move on to the pledge of

[2:15] allegiance.

[2:16] please join me in the pledge.

[2:18] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of

[2:19] the united states of america and to

[2:20] the republic for which it stands one

[2:21] nation under god, indivisible, with

[2:22] liberty and justice for all.

[2:36] >> we'll now take it over to kim for

[2:38] a roll call, please.

[2:39] >> supervisor speier?

[2:40] >> here.

[2:42] >> supervisor mueller?

[2:43] >> here.

[2:44] >> supervisor gauthier?

[2:45] >> here.

[2:46] >> supervisor canepa?

[2:47] >> here.

[2:48] >> president corzo?

[2:49] >> here.

[2:50] >> all present.

[2:51] >> we'll move on to honoring the life

[2:52] of and board member remarks.

[2:55] do any of my colleagues have comments

[2:59] or any honoring the life of remarks?

[3:01] >> through the chair, I have two honoring

[3:03] the life of, so this morning

[3:05] we would like to honor the life and

[3:08] memory of eugenia vallencourt,

[3:12] beloved mother of donna vallencourt

[3:15] whose life was marked with

[3:19] services and love.

[3:21] she passed away peacefully on sunday

[3:25] august 16 surrounding by her loving

[3:30] family.

[3:31] board in santa rosa in 1925, she

[3:32] celebrated 100 year birthday just 8

[3:34] months ago, a milestone that reflects

[3:36] not only the length of her life but

[3:38] the fullness.

[3:40] eugenia also was an employee of the

[3:43] county, she began her county service

[3:45] in the dp of general services and

[3:48] later joined the san mateo county

[3:50] sheriff's office where she served as

[3:52] lead payroll personnel specialist

[3:54] until her retirement in 1995.

[3:57] by every account, she was the beloved

[4:00] by deputies, by staff and by many

[4:03] people whose paths crossed hers.

[4:06] again, I know that her daughters, two

[4:09] daughters followed her into the county

[4:11] work, donna and val also worked --

[4:15] built their careers of service here in

[4:18] san mateo county here as well, so we

[4:19] want to lift up the memory of eugenia

[4:22] and her family.

[4:25] also I wanted to honor the life of

[4:29] frank abramo, today we honor

[4:34] remarkable life of frank who was a

[4:35] world war ii navy veteran and in the

[4:40] veteran's community who passed away on

[4:44] august 12 surrounded by his family.

[4:48] his 102 years were marked by service,

[4:50] dedication, resilience and deep love

[4:51] of family.

[4:53] frank served the united states navy

[4:56] during world war ii spending three

[4:58] years in the pacific theatre.

[5:01] more of his work, he worked for the

[5:05] stanford linear accelerator

[5:11] center here and he believed for the

[5:14] adopt department of defense, he found

[5:17] joy in community and activity, he was

[5:19] a longtime member of the san

[5:21] mateo elks lodge and an avid golfer

[5:27] who continued playing until his 90's

[5:29] showing his determination and

[5:30] enjoyment of life.

[5:31] may frank abramo be remembered with

[5:33] appreciation for his service,

[5:35] admiration, for his long life and deep

[5:37] love for his family and friends.

[5:38] thank you.

[5:41] >> thank you.

[5:44] seeing no others, I would like to

[5:48] adjust a small comment to supervisor

[5:53] gauthier's honoring the life of

[5:54] comments for frank and just add that

[5:57] frank was a city of san mateo resident

[5:59] and in addition to his military

[6:03] service, he also dedicated his career

[6:06] to scientific and technological

[6:08] advancement through his work with the

[6:10] department of defense and stanford

[6:16] linear accelerator center, we honor

[6:21] his contributions to science and

[6:22] innovation, we are immensely grateful

[6:25] for the lasting legacy he leaves

[6:27] behind.

[6:28] I'll now read our county's land

[6:30] acknowledgment.

[6:31] this is not our county's land

[6:33] acknowledgment, I'll now read a

[6:37] different land acknowledgment, we

[6:38] honor and affirm the rights of the

[6:41] coleman and other indigenous peoples

[6:42] who call the unscreened territories of

[6:44] the san francisco bay a area their

[6:47] traditional homeland, we honor the

[6:49] ancestors, elders and rel tiers of

[6:51] indigenous people and their enduring

[6:54] contributions to san mateo county and

[6:56] commit to continued healing, inclusion

[6:58] and partnership.

[6:59] we honor people of the african

[7:01] diaspora recognizing the profound

[7:03] impact of enslavement and systemic

[7:06] injustice as well as our

[7:08] enduring contributions, resilience and

[7:09] leadership in shaping our communities.

[7:12] we honor immigrants, past and present

[7:14] whose cultures, experiences and

[7:16] contributions have enriched our

[7:20] communities and continue to strengthen

[7:21] our shared society.

[7:23] with that, we will now move on to

[7:25] public comment.

[7:26] this is the portion of the agenda that

[7:28] is set aside for members of the public

[7:30] to comment on matters that are within

[7:32] the subject matter jurisdiction of the

[7:34] board of supervisors but that are not

[7:35] on the agenda for today's meeting

[7:38] for matters that are listed on the

[7:40] consent agenda and for matters that

[7:43] are set for closed session.

[7:44] we'll be keeping public comment to

[7:46] would the minutes.

[7:47] if a speaker goes over time, I will

[7:48] give them a single warning and then

[7:52] I'll ask the clerk to cut the mic.

[7:53] this is to ensure equity of voice for

[7:56] all of our public commenters.

[7:58] thank you, with that, we will begin

[8:00] public comment.

[8:04] >> we have peeved written comments

[8:06] which were submitted and provided to

[8:08] the president and board members as

[8:09] well as on the public board site.

[8:13] for those wanting to speak on items

[8:17] 1-20, please wait until the item is called.

[8:19] we will start with leopold and then

[8:27] dan.

[8:30] >> good morning, I have a family of

[8:34] five kids and I have small land here

[8:37] in the county of san mateo and I

[8:39] wanted some help from you guys to

[8:41] update some of the regulations for

[8:45] septic that I want to put on my land.

[8:47] I don't know all the details but my

[8:50] architect, dan, knows everything and

[8:52] can explain to you what I need.

[9:02] >> dan?

[9:03] >> hi, good morning, first I would

[9:08] like to thank supervisor ray for

[9:14] talking with me, it was very helpful.

[9:16] my name is dan, a licensed architect

[9:21] and I landed here from europe and I

[9:25] opened my company in san mateo.

[9:28] I've designed projects in bay area,

[9:31] california, united states and overseas.

[9:33] over the last 44 years, I have

[9:40] cooperated with many planning,

[9:42] building and elected officials and

[9:43] helped create, update and corrected

[9:47] various regulations.

[9:49] I have become the private

[9:52] practitioner on the other side of the

[9:53] fence that I see how regulations apply

[9:57] to people working -- designing things

[9:59] based on their existing regulations.

[10:00] and I want to bring to your attention

[10:07] that I have identified a regulation

[10:09] that does not make sense today.

[10:11] we need more housing and we have -- we

[10:15] are blocking housing in san mateo

[10:17] county for no reasonable reasons.

[10:20] I discovered the problem by

[10:23] chance, currently working in san mateo

[10:26] county, santa cruz county and santa

[10:31] clara county, I realized that modern

[10:35] septic systems have been specifically

[10:39] and especially designed for smaller

[10:42] lots and for specific problems at

[10:45] various lots.

[10:46] and such systems do make sense, they

[10:54] are functioning, they are clean and

[10:55] they are reliable.

[10:57] there are hundreds of them in san

[10:59] mateo county and -- sorry, in santa

[11:02] clara county and santa cruz county and

[11:04] in other bay area counties.

[11:07] >> I'm sorry, sir, that's your time.

[11:09] >> that's fine, I have some envelopes

[11:10] that I can give to the supervisors.

[11:13] >> please give them to the clerk and

[11:15] you can always follow up with us via

[11:17] e-mail.

[11:18] >> this is a problem we need to solve.

[11:21] >> madam president, maybe I'll give

[11:22] the speaker my card and we can speak

[11:24] about his regulatory concerns.

[11:27] >> okay, thank you.

[11:28] >> thank you.

[11:29] >> next we have henry gardner and then

[11:36] lahara.

[11:38] >> good morning, all, my name is --

[11:42] >> can you please adjust the mic. So

[11:44] people on zoom can hear you.

[11:46] >> my name is lah ark -- lahara.

[11:59] [inaudible]

[12:00] >> my name is joanne kim, a rising

[12:04] senior at kama high school.

[12:06] >> my name is veronica and I'm also a

[12:11] rising senior at carl mont high school.

[12:13] >> my name is zara, a senior at carmel

[12:17] high school and a senior for skop the

[12:20] scandals.

[12:21] >> henry gardner, a recent graduate of

[12:25] burlingame high school, a summer

[12:26] intern with stop the scandals.

[12:28] I want to start by focusing on a

[12:32] number, 13.4 million.

[12:33] it's the amount our county is paid out

[12:35] in lawsuits related to alleged sheriff

[12:38] misconduct in just the last five

[12:40] years along with another 48 million in

[12:43] pending claims.

[12:44] this comes at a time when the county

[12:45] has been a publicized struggle over

[12:49] vehicle licensing fees, money which is

[12:53] reinvested back into our community.

[12:55] this money impacts our education, our

[12:56] opportunity and our lives.

[12:57] we demand responsible stewardship from

[12:59] our county.

[13:02] we ask them to showcase this

[13:05] stewardship by appointing an ongoing

[13:07] inspector general overseeing the

[13:08] sheriff's office.

[13:11] >> hello, I'm anishka, I'm a student

[13:16] at carl mont high school, the board of

[13:20] supervisors own independent civilian

[13:24] advisory committee recommended that

[13:25] last summer the board appoint an

[13:27] inspector general, they would build a

[13:30] relationship between the sheriff's

[13:32] office and the community, they would

[13:34] provide a safety valve with disasters

[13:36] happening with the last sheriff, it is

[13:39] a crucial step towards an improved

[13:41] relationship between the sheriff's

[13:42] office and the community especially

[13:44] after the recent scandals, the

[13:46] inspector general is a path forward.

[13:49] >> I'm going to need you to wrap up in

[13:51] ten seconds.

[13:52] >> so, we are here to present a

[13:55] position where we have garnered over

[13:59] 550 signatures from members of the

[14:00] community as well as over 20

[14:04] organizations including the naacp, so

[14:11] we will be presenting those to the

[14:13] board of supervisors today.

[14:14] thank you for your time.

[14:15] >> thank you.

[14:16] >> and lastly from chambers, we

[14:19] have jim lawrence.

[14:21] >> good morning.

[14:24] president corzo and members of the

[14:26] board, I want to remind you to reflect

[14:29] on not only what these young people

[14:31] have said today but who is saying it.

[14:34] they are students, they spent hair

[14:36] summer doing things that normally

[14:37] students don't do, instead they get

[14:40] involved with their community.

[14:41] the research, the issues, they

[14:44] attended meetings, they talked to

[14:46] residents and gathered signatures,

[14:47] they built the community support and

[14:50] today they came before you, our

[14:52] elected leaders, with that message.

[14:55] now, I spent many years in public

[14:57] service like all of you.

[14:58] I can tell you what I experienced

[15:00] today is exactly what we want from our

[15:03] young people, they became informed,

[15:06] they chose to participate, to speak up

[15:09] and believe in -- and I believe their

[15:11] voices matter.

[15:12] and to our interns, thank you, you

[15:17] showed courage, you showed leadership

[15:19] and regardless of what happens today,

[15:22] you demonstrated something very

[15:24] important, democracy works best when

[15:26] people show up.

[15:27] thank you.

[15:31] >> alright, now we're going fo go to

[15:33] zoom for comments.

[15:34] please raise your hand at this time.

[15:38] alright, we're going to start with

[15:42] natallia and then I'll

[15:47] make a final call.

[15:48] please begin.

[15:53] natalia?

[15:56] is your hand raised online?

[15:57] last call.

[16:07] alright, that concludes public comment.

[16:15] >> okay.

[16:16] thank you.

[16:17] with that, we will now -- I keep

[16:25] misplacing my agenda here.

[16:26] okay, with that, I want to thank

[16:28] everyone who shared a public comment.

[16:30] we will now move on to take action to

[16:33] set the agenda and approve the consent

[16:38] agenda.

[16:39] now bear with me, this one's

[16:40] complicated, so, I would like to

[16:42] suggest we move items 9 and 17

[16:49] together, so consider item 17 during

[16:52] the discussion for item number 9 as

[16:56] both items involve horizon.

[17:00] item 17 is a resolution authorizing a

[17:03] ground lease for real property located

[17:07] at 826 mahler road in burlingame.

[17:10] I believe supervisor speier would like

[17:12] item number 29 to be moved from

[17:14] consent to regular agenda and I

[17:17] propose we move that to the end of the

[17:19] regular agenda.

[17:24] and I know health has requested that we

[17:26] pull item -- pull and defer item 32 to

[17:30] a later meeting.

[17:33] can I get a motion to approve this

[17:40] agenda?

[17:41] to set this agenda and approve the

[17:47] consent agenda.

[17:48] >> I have one other item that I don't

[17:53] want to move but draw attention to,

[17:54] that's item 24 which is an agreement

[17:58] with a company that has had the

[18:02] contract since 2006.

[18:04] it's become an evergreen contract and

[18:08] I think as we look to the ways in

[18:12] which we'll be tightening our belts,

[18:14] we need to look at these contracts

[18:17] which historically are just renewed

[18:19] decade after decade, so I wanted to

[18:21] draw attention to that, with that, I

[18:24] will move the changes you've requested.

[18:27] >> thank you.

[18:29] roll call vote, please.

[18:30] >> supervisor speier?

[18:31] >> aye.

[18:33] >> supervisor mueller?

[18:34] >> yes.

[18:35] >> supervisor gauthier?

[18:36] >> yes.

[18:37] >> supervisor canepa?

[18:38] >> aye.

[18:39] >> president corzo?

[18:40] >> yes.

[18:41] >> motion passes.

[18:42] >> okay, thank you.

[18:44] with that, we will now move on to item

[18:52] number 1, and I will hand it over to

[18:57] supervisor speier and county executive

[19:01] callagy to present a resolution to

[19:05] kitty lopez.

[19:06] >> thank you, madam president, it's a great

[19:10] honor today to celebrate one of the

[19:12] great advocates in san mateo county.

[19:14] a great advocate for the vulnerable, a

[19:19] life truly dedicated to raising up

[19:22] those in need.

[19:23] I have had the pleasure of working

[19:26] with kitty lopez both at samaritan

[19:29] house and also on the board of first 5.

[19:33] I think that she has truly been

[19:37] remarkable in how she has led her

[19:41] career on behalf of county residents.

[19:44] kitty, you have a moral compass that

[19:48] has never wavered.

[19:49] you are a true humanitarian and

[19:56] paraphrasing vice-president humphrey,

[20:01] you have cared for those at the dawn

[20:03] of their lives and those living in

[20:05] the shadows of their lives, the sick,

[20:07] the needy and the handicapped and we

[20:10] will forever be indebted to you for

[20:12] the service you've provided in our

[20:16] county.

[20:21] >> madam president, can I add a few

[20:22] words?

[20:23] >> of course.

[20:24] >> I've known kitty for over 25 years

[20:28] now and certainly got to know her

[20:32] wonderful husband, jeff, also,

[20:33] who was a professor of mine up at

[20:45] notre dame, kitty's life has been

[20:47] about service, she was an incredible

[20:51] director at samaritan house, reaching

[20:54] beyond what john kelly and others

[21:00] before her accomplished and she really

[21:01] se a path for herself in in serving

[21:06] members of this county for years to

[21:08] come.

[21:09] when she came to the first 5, it was

[21:12] the good fortune of the county to

[21:14] get somebody of this quality, somebody

[21:16] who's difficult to say no to at

[21:18] times but has the best interest of the

[21:20] community at heart whose carrying on

[21:23] this job with very serious work but

[21:25] did it with a sense of humor and as a

[21:28] great leader bringing others along and

[21:32] lifting up others under her guidance.

[21:36] it has been nothing short of a

[21:38] pleasure working with kitty all these

[21:42] years and as you head into noted

[21:48] retirement but what are you calling it?

[21:51] >> preferment.

[21:53] >> there you go.

[21:54] that's a sense of humor I'm talking

[21:58] about.

[21:59] I would ask you to reflect on all

[22:01] the lives you impacted and all the

[22:04] people you served in this county

[22:05] throughout these years.

[22:06] that is an incredible legacy that will

[22:08] be established for years and years to

[22:10] come, so thank you so much for all you

[22:12] have done for this county.

[22:16] >> thank you.

[22:17] >> thank you.

[22:19] >> sorry, just one second.

[22:20] you will have the last word, kitty, I

[22:23] promise.

[22:24] I just wanted to share a few words as

[22:26] well.

[22:27] I got to serve on the first 5

[22:29] commission with you, kitty, for about

[22:32] three -- no, two years, two years, I

[22:36] believe, and during that time, it was

[22:38] such a pleasure to work with you and

[22:42] one of my favorite

[22:43] things about being on that

[22:45] commission was really knowing it was

[22:46] one of the few commissions that I did

[22:47] not have to worry about at all because

[22:51] that commission was run and led by you

[22:55] in your very capable hands and not

[22:57] only did I not have to worry but I had

[23:00] such faith in your leadership and in

[23:09] your equity focus and the shared

[23:13] leadership that you had, the amazing

[23:14] team, the trust that you built,

[23:17] the shared decision-making, the

[23:20] community focus, the true focus on

[23:22] kids, on community, on families that

[23:27] was evident in every single decision

[23:29] that was made, the transparency, it

[23:32] really just was like the example of

[23:35] how to make really good decisions for

[23:39] kids for our littlest ones in a way

[23:41] that I think is a true model to other

[23:45] organizations, so thank you for doing

[23:47] that.

[23:48] thank you for creating that model, for

[23:52] leaving it in very capable hands and I

[23:55] know you're going to enjoy your

[23:58] preferment and you won't be too far

[24:00] and I'm just grateful for the work

[24:02] that you have done and, yeah, thank

[24:08] you so much.

[24:09] I don't know if any of my colleagues

[24:11] want to share.

[24:12] kitty will have the last word.

[24:14] >> sure, I want to say to kitty, you

[24:16] know, thank you for leading with

[24:18] heart, for taking care of those who

[24:20] are most vulnerable who needed that

[24:23] support.

[24:24] I will miss you, well, I don't --

[24:26] hopefully you'll be going to progress

[24:32] because you were my dance partner.

[24:33] but you know, I just want to say

[24:34] congratulations on preferment, I love

[24:35] that idea to be able to do what you

[24:37] prefer, all along, I think you've done

[24:39] what you've preferred because you've

[24:41] been taking care of individuals this

[24:42] whole time.

[24:44] congratulations on reaching this

[24:45] milestone, I hope to see you at next

[24:49] progress.

[24:50] >> kitty, I want to thank you for your

[24:51] service.

[24:52] I think about the staff, the

[24:54] development, michelle blackly who I

[24:55] knew for a long time through star

[24:57] vista, I think you've always had a

[25:00] collaborative approach and really

[25:01] working with the boards, I served on

[25:05] the board very, very briefly but I saw

[25:08] how you've conducted yourself and your

[25:11] preferment is well deserved, so thank

[25:14] you, madam chair.

[25:15] >> please go ahead, kitty.

[25:18] >> first of all, thank you, supervisor

[25:22] corzo and supervisor speier and fellow

[25:27] supervisors, mike callagy, yes, it's

[25:28] kind of freaky to know that both mike

[25:31] and supervisor speier have known me so

[25:33] long, 25 years, if you combine my work

[25:36] at samaritan house and first 5.

[25:42] it has been an honor.

[25:45] I wasn't going to get e-mail, but

[25:52] that's hard for me to not do.

[25:53] but it's been an honor to serve in

[25:54] this county in the two primary

[25:56] prolepses I've had at samaritan house

[26:00] working with folks in need and then at

[26:03] first 5.

[26:05] and the through line in that, that was

[26:10] very purposeful, running samaritan

[26:12] house and building that organization

[26:14] to be a primary safety net provider

[26:17] but I always wanted to find out how

[26:20] can we -- of course it's great to have

[26:23] our non-profit partners but I want to

[26:25] find out how can we do things

[26:27] differently for our young children and

[26:30] their families to help them grow and

[26:34] thrive without necessarily needing

[26:37] services.

[26:38] it's hard to do in today's world

[26:40] because everybody needs money and

[26:43] support and not everybody has it.

[26:46] but I learned that all the research

[26:48] says you have to start when children

[26:50] are young and I still believe that and

[26:52] the research still shows that.

[26:55] I learned all of this from my father

[26:57] who was an immigrant to this country

[27:00] many, many years ago from mexico,

[27:03] studied medicine at usc and built a

[27:06] family practice in los angeles, he was

[27:08] a family doctor for over 40 years on

[27:11] hollywood boulevard.

[27:12] and yes, there were stories, I might

[27:14] have to kill you if I told you, but

[27:17] everybody knew hill and he knew

[27:19] everybody and he delivered everybody's

[27:22] babies and helped folks, aging parents

[27:25] and all the ages in between.

[27:28] and he believed in what could be

[27:30] possible and how could we all do it

[27:32] together.

[27:33] and that's sort of my motto, I love

[27:35] that word possibility and how can we

[27:38] build possibility for our kids and

[27:41] families, particularly for those who

[27:43] are farthest from it.

[27:45] that's our role and I hope that that

[27:48] work continues.

[27:49] thank you so very much for this honor.

[27:53] [applause].

[27:54] >> we have a resolution.

[27:58] >> do we want to vote real quick?

[28:02] did we vote on it yet, public comment?

[28:04] >> that's true.

[28:08] >> okay, sorry.

[28:10] >> let's take public comment and then

[28:13] we can vote.

[28:14] >> alright, I do not have speaker

[28:16] cards from chambers.

[28:17] if you would like to make a comment on

[28:19] item 1, please raise your hand on zoom

[28:21] at this time.

[28:22] alright, I do have one hand raised for

[28:26] natalia.

[28:27] if you can please unmute.

[28:28] >> hello.

[28:31] >> can you hear me?

[28:32] >> yes, we can hear you.

[28:34] >> hi, I'm not sure if I'm speaking on

[28:37] the right time slot, I was trying to

[28:39] connect before and something

[28:42] happened.

[28:43] >> natallia, this is for item 1.

[28:46] >> I think you might be wanting to be

[28:48] speak on a different item, this is a

[28:50] presentation to congratulate kitty

[28:52] lopez on her retirement.

[28:54] >> when can I speak about horizon?

[28:56] >> that will be at a later time?

[28:59] >> it will be item 9.

[29:01] >> we do not have a guaranteed time.

[29:04] >> okay, thanks.

[29:09] >> final call for item 1, we do have

[29:12] michelle, please unmute and begin.

[29:14] >> good morning, board of supervisors,

[29:17] and kitty, this is michelle, we're so

[29:20] looking forward to celebrating you in

[29:21] a couple of events this week and you're

[29:29] an amazing leader and a beautiful

[29:30] human, so hope to see you all soon and

[29:31] enjoy your preferment.

[29:33] >> alright, that concludes public

[29:35] comment.

[29:36] >> thank you, is there a motion to

[29:38] approve this proclamation?

[29:39] >> so moved.

[29:40] >> thank you, second?

[29:41] >> second.

[29:42] >> roll call vote, please.

[29:43] >> supervisor speier?

[29:44] >> aye.

[29:45] >> supervisor mueller?

[29:46] >> yes.

[29:47] >> supervisor gauthier?

[29:48] >> yes.

[29:49] >> supervisor canepa?

[29:50] >> aye.

[29:51] >> president corzo?

[29:52] >> yes.

[29:53] >> motion passes unanimously.

[29:55] >> come on up, kitty, we'd like to

[29:58] give you your proclamation.

[30:12] ( taking photograph ).

[31:07] >> okay.

[31:08] with that, we will move on to item

[31:11] number 2, presentation of a

[31:14] proclamation honoring international

[31:18] overdose awareness day, and I'll be

[31:21] passing it to supervisor ray mueller.

[31:23] >> thank you, president corzo.

[31:25] I want to start by thanking one of my

[31:29] summer interns, mia burko who worked

[31:32] on this proclamation.

[31:33] august 31 is recognized as

[31:41] international overdose awareness day.

[31:44] we stand families who are still

[31:45] grieving them and to acknowledge the

[31:50] crisis that reached every community,

[31:53] we need to talk about this openly.

[31:54] I want to recognize healing overdose

[31:57] prevention and education hope,

[32:00] pacifica organization founded by runda

[32:05] and clarence davis whose annual walk

[32:07] is this saturday august 29, I want to

[32:10] invite you to join hope's walk and

[32:12] resource fair at 10 a.m. At 399 rena

[32:17] delmar pacifica, it's so moving, there

[32:20] are so many families present there

[32:23] with pictures of those they've lost.

[32:24] hope has been able to install

[32:28] lifesaving narcan dispensers.

[32:35] this weekend we'll be donating more

[32:37] boxes of narcan to hope.

[32:40] easier access to narcan reduces

[32:43] overdose rates and saves life.

[32:45] we believe providing narcan in public

[32:49] spaces recognizes substance use

[32:51] disorder as a public health issues.

[32:56] the county team at behavioral health,

[33:01] I want to thank them for treatment

[33:09] prevention.

[33:10] ronnie brown is on the forefront of

[33:11] this fight.

[33:12] before transitioning into community

[33:13] health planning, dr. Brown spent 27

[33:16] years as a correctional dentist in the

[33:20] main detention facility where the

[33:23] specialized clinic became a clinic

[33:26] for institutional settings and it was

[33:27] there she saw the impact of this

[33:30] problem.

[33:31] dr. Brown?

[33:32] >> thank you so much for that

[33:33] introduction.

[33:34] my name is dr. Ronnie brown, I work in

[33:37] behavioral health recovery service as

[33:39] senior community health planner

[33:41] overseeing overdose education and

[33:42] response and I also serve as the chair

[33:44] of the overdose prevention coalition.

[33:48] august 31 is international overdose

[33:50] awareness day where the global

[33:53] community comes together to honor, to

[33:55] remember, to advocate for those lives

[33:57] who have been lost from an overdose.

[34:00] this year's theme is 25 years on still

[34:05] needed, marking 25 years since its

[34:10] inception in 2001, but that tagline

[34:15] still challenges us to ask this

[34:17] question why is this day still needed.

[34:19] this day is still needed buzz overdose

[34:22] death rates remain high in the united

[34:23] states.

[34:24] according to provisional data from the

[34:27] centers of disease control, in 2025,

[34:29] there were 69 thousand 973 americans

[34:33] who lost their lives from a drug

[34:37] overdose.

[34:38] now this tragedy is not just a

[34:40] national tragedy, we see it here in

[34:42] san mateo county.

[34:43] according to the california overdose

[34:45] surveillance dashboard in 2024, there

[34:48] were 54 individuals who died from an

[34:51] opioid involved overdose.

[34:52] the majority of sourdoughs do involve

[34:56] synthetic opioids, specifically

[34:59] fentanyl.

[35:00] this day is still needed because

[35:02] overdoses are a preventable cause of

[35:05] death.

[35:06] now, an overdose is when a drug or a

[35:08] combination of drugs exceeds the

[35:09] brain's ability to regulate body

[35:13] temperature, heart rate, consciousness

[35:14] and breathing.

[35:16] and in an overdose, breathing slows

[35:19] down or stops.

[35:20] and then the count down between

[35:23] survival and death begins, one minute,

[35:26] two minutes, three minutes, there's

[35:29] mental confusion, four minutes, five

[35:31] minutes, six minutes, brain cells

[35:33] begin to die, 7 minutes, 8 minutes, 9

[35:38] minutes, there's ir referable brain

[35:42] damage.

[35:43] after ten minutes, brain death can

[35:44] occur.

[35:45] it's what happened in those precious

[35:46] moments that makes the decision and

[35:48] determination between survival and

[35:51] death.

[35:52] first a bystander needs to be able to

[35:54] recognize the signs of an opioid

[35:59] overdose, acronym blue, b, breathing slows

[36:04] down our stop, l stands for lips

[36:05] turning blue, u stands for

[36:08] unconsciousness, e stands for eyes

[36:10] that become constricted.

[36:11] the by standard to administer narcan,

[36:18] a lifesaving method.

[36:21] the bystander needs the stay within

[36:23] the individual, perform cpr if trained

[36:25] to do so and if it's indicated and way

[36:28] for medical personnel to arrive.

[36:32] narcan is a preventable cause of death.

[36:34] this day is still needed because

[36:37] stigma related barriers decrease

[36:39] individual's access for

[36:40] receiving the treatment they need.

[36:42] in 2024, according to the national

[36:45] survey on drug use and health, only

[36:46] one out of every five americans 12

[36:49] years and older who needed substance

[36:52] use treatment received substance use

[36:55] treatment.

[36:56] the adults surveyed in the study cited

[36:58] worry as the reason why they didn't

[37:01] seek treatment, worry about what

[37:04] people would think, worry about what

[37:05] people would say, it's reducing stigma,

[37:08] providing compassionate care,

[37:09] meeting people where they're at,

[37:13] encouraging people with substance use

[37:17] disorders to get treatment what they

[37:19] need and reduce the substance use

[37:22] overdoses.

[37:23] this work needs to be done.

[37:25] in 2024, the board held a special

[37:29] session and they had bhrs to have stop

[37:33] measures.

[37:34] we have done that in collaboration

[37:37] with the overdose prevention coalition.

[37:39] we have distributed 3223 boxes in the

[37:44] lock zone out into the community.

[37:47] every box represents potential.

[37:49] every box represents hope that a life

[37:52] can be saved but, board, there's more

[37:54] work for us to do, we need your help

[37:57] to identify spaces and places in your

[38:00] district to expand a lock zone

[38:02] distribution efforts.

[38:03] in cosigning, I -- closing, I do want

[38:07] to share with you the tagline for this

[38:10] year's theme, it says even though this

[38:12] day is still needed, it doesn't have

[38:15] to be forever.

[38:17] let's strive on not making this

[38:19] forever.

[38:20] I appreciate the time.

[38:21] thank you.

[38:24] [applause].

[38:27] >> with that, I will go ahead and move

[38:30] the proclamation forward.

[38:31] >> second.

[38:32] >> supervisor speier?

[38:37] >> aye.

[38:38] >> supervisor mueller?

[38:39] >> we haven't taken public comment and

[38:42] I wanted to say something briefly.

[38:43] did you want to say something as well?

[38:47] >> go ahead, supervisor speier?

[38:48] >> I want to thank dr. Brown.

[38:51] she was kind enough to come and do a a

[38:54] brown bag lunch for our interns, they

[38:58] were very impressed and your message

[39:01] about bystander engagement is so

[39:04] important as we deal with this crisis,

[39:06] so thank you.

[39:09] >> thank you.

[39:10] I just wanted to briefly say that I

[39:13] got the opportunity to see dr. Brown

[39:15] in action one day.

[39:17] I'm forgetting the name of the

[39:19] organization and the walk, but

[39:20] supervisor mueller was there and

[39:23] pacifica.

[39:24] it was -- what was it called?

[39:27] hope.

[39:28] hope had a walk and it was very moving.

[39:31] there was a walk to honor people who

[39:40] had overdosed and it was family

[39:43] members and even strangers carrying

[39:45] the pictures of folks that had

[39:47] overdosed but there was a training

[39:49] that dr. Brown did at this community

[39:53] event and the training was excellent,

[39:55] so much so that like a member of my

[39:58] team and I sat down and actually

[40:01] listened to the majority of the

[40:03] training and learned so much and so if

[40:08] anyone here ever gets the opportunity

[40:09] to take one of these training, please

[40:12] do so, it is so worth it and I wanted

[40:15] to share as well that I personally do

[40:19] carry in a lock zone in my car, our

[40:23] team carries in the lock zone in our

[40:24] tabling and office hours box and I

[40:28] know that our county had the intention

[40:33] of having a distribution box in front

[40:38] of the courthouse and that didn't work

[40:40] out for some reason but I would like

[40:45] to share the idea that why don't we

[40:47] just put like a sign up there and put

[40:49] the box in front of this building and

[40:51] we can put a sign over there and

[40:52] can know that we have one

[40:54] here and they can walk over and get

[40:57] one and let's make that more

[40:59] accessible.

[41:00] I also think we can put some at other

[41:03] sites, but we can do that, you know,

[41:05] if there are places that aren't

[41:07] willing to have the box, we can still

[41:12] get -- overcome those barriers.

[41:15] so, thank you.

[41:17] and did anyone else want to make

[41:19] comments?

[41:20] supervisor gauthier?

[41:21] >> I want to say, dr. Brown, thank you

[41:22] for your presentation.

[41:23] I would love to have you come to

[41:25] district 4 and meet with some of our

[41:28] non-profits.

[41:29] I know that there are families that

[41:31] are streamlining right -- dealing

[41:36] right now in the hospital trying to

[41:39] recover from a drug overdose, keeping

[41:41] them in mind.

[41:42] I appreciate you coming here, we need

[41:44] to understand more and educate our

[41:46] community members more often, so I

[41:47] will be reaching out to our office to

[41:50] schedule some training.

[41:52] >> okay, public comment, please, or

[41:54] did you want to say something?

[41:57] public comment, please.

[41:58] >> I do not have speaker cards from

[42:00] chambers, we'll go to zoom for

[42:02] item 2.

[42:03] I do have one hand raised, it's final

[42:05] call for item number 2.

[42:07] we'll go ahead and start with isabel,

[42:09] please unmute and begin.

[42:15] >> good morning, board of supervisors,

[42:17] I want to say that today's

[42:19] proclamation recognizing august 31 as

[42:21] international overdose awareness day

[42:22] is an important reminder of the lives

[42:25] impacted by overdose and the work

[42:26] being done to prevent future loss.

[42:29] just a special acknowledgment to

[42:34] ronnie brown and the san mateo county

[42:35] overdose prevention coalition for

[42:37] their dedication through strong

[42:39] partnerships and education and

[42:41] outreach.

[42:42] expanded access to lifelong lock zone,

[42:45] ronnie and her partners continue to

[42:48] make a meaningful difference

[42:49] throughout san mateo county, thank you

[42:50] so much, it's such a great honor.

[42:52] >> thank you.

[42:54] and that concludes public comment.

[42:56] >> thank you, roll call vote, please.

[42:58] >> supervisor speier?

[42:59] >> aye.

[43:00] >> supervisor mueller?

[43:01] >> yes.

[43:02] >> supervisor gauthier?

[43:03] >> yes.

[43:04] >> supervisor canepa?

[43:05] >> yes.

[43:06] >> and president corzo?

[43:07] >> yes, as I vote, I'm thinking about the

[43:10] many friends I have lost to overdose.

[43:13] >> motion passes unanimous.

[43:17] >> with that, we have a proclamation

[43:18] to present.

[43:19] >> we'll now present the proclamation.

[43:22] ( presenting proclamation ).

[44:46] >> okay, moving on to presentation of

[44:50] a proclamation designating august 26

[44:53] as women's equality day.

[44:54] supervisor gauthier?

[44:59] >> thank you, chair.

[45:00] and I just want to recognize from this

[45:04] dais, there are three women sitting

[45:05] here so we should all take an

[45:09] opportunity to sponsor, I have words

[45:10] on this item, I know supervisor

[45:12] speier, this was your item that you

[45:15] brought forward to the county sometime

[45:18] ago.

[45:19] so, today we recognize women equality

[45:22] day, commemorating the certification

[45:24] of the 19th amendment and 1920 which

[45:28] recognized women's constitutional

[45:29] right to vote.

[45:30] the 19th amendment was a landmark

[45:33] achievement with a fight for equality

[45:35] did not end with women gaining the

[45:37] right to vote.

[45:39] many women, particularly women of

[45:41] color continued to fight significant

[45:44] barriers to voting and civic

[45:47] participation for decades.

[45:48] women's equality day is a reminder

[45:52] that representation matters, when

[45:53] women are able to participate fully in

[45:56] our democracy and serve in leadership,

[45:59] our communities benefit from a

[46:01] broader range of experience and

[46:05] perspectives.

[46:06] as elected officials, we have the

[46:07] responsibility to ensure that women and

[46:10] girls across san mateo county have

[46:13] opportunities to participate, lead and

[46:15] have their voices heard in the

[46:17] decisions that affect their families

[46:18] and communities.

[46:21] equality also means addressing the

[46:23] barriers that continue to affect women

[46:27] including economic opportunities,

[46:29] access to education, affordable child

[46:33] care, housing stability and

[46:34] opportunities for leadership.

[46:38] we should especially encourage women

[46:40] and girls to see themselves as future

[46:43] leaders.

[46:44] whether in government, business,

[46:46] education, public service or their

[46:49] communities, women's equality day is

[46:51] both a celebration of how far we've

[46:53] come and a reminder that our work

[46:58] toward full equality continues.

[47:00] we can honor this -- the women who

[47:02] fought for the rights we have today

[47:05] by continuing to create opportunities

[47:07] for every woman and girl to

[47:10] participate, lead and thrive.

[47:14] I'm going to ask my colleagues if you

[47:16] would like to have words.

[47:18] >> thank you, and thank you,

[47:20] supervisor gauthier, for bringing this

[47:23] resolution to our attention.

[47:25] today is the day in 1920 when women

[47:30] actually got the right to vote but I'm

[47:35] not going to talk about the past, I'm

[47:38] going to talk about the future and I'm

[47:40] going to put this on to show that

[47:46] equal rights amendment has not passed

[47:48] and we need to think about future.

[47:53] it is 24 words, it has been introduced

[47:56] in the congress of the united states

[47:59] every single session and we have still

[48:02] not passed it.

[48:06] there are 165 countries around the

[48:10] world that have embraced the equal

[48:13] rights amendment in their

[48:16] constitutions, that's 85% of the

[48:20] united nations members, only 10% of

[48:22] the countries have not.

[48:24] and the united states is one of them.

[48:28] it's a shameful recognition that we

[48:31] have not found the will to pass this

[48:36] amendment and put it into our

[48:39] constitution.

[48:40] so, I wish the young women who were

[48:42] here earlier could have been here for

[48:43] this so they recognize this is the

[48:46] challenge for them and for all of us

[48:48] as we move forward.

[48:53] >> thank you.

[48:57] I want to thank you as well for

[49:00] bringing this forward.

[49:05] I think about the reality that young

[49:09] women today have seen the stripping of

[49:12] some of the rights that women have

[49:15] fought so hard for in past generations

[49:22] and I'm just filled with the emotion

[49:27] that -- that the fight is not over,

[49:45] right, that we'll see the pendulum

[49:52] swing back, that we will get that

[49:55] passed, we will.

[49:56] I think we see especially in

[50:00] california, more women in the

[50:02] assembly, in the senate than ever

[50:07] before and the nation will follow in

[50:11] due time and we'll get there.

[50:14] so, while I am filled with a little

[50:16] bit of sorrow, I'm filled with great

[50:19] hope and the rights that women fought

[50:23] for in the past, we will solidify and

[50:33] build upon like we always have.

[50:36] I also want to take a moment to share

[50:40] kind of a dream of mine that I have

[50:44] and I'll give san francisco a quick

[50:48] shout-out in this moment.

[50:52] you know, I think about the right to

[50:56] vote and how some of the

[50:58] vulnerabilities of the immigrant

[51:00] community is due to the fact that they

[51:02] do not have a right to vote.

[51:04] they don't have that political power

[51:08] and san francisco does allow

[51:11] undocumented people to vote in school

[51:12] board elections where their children

[51:15] are in schools and I think that's

[51:17] admirable and that gives them a step

[51:21] into a political process where they

[51:22] have a lot of stake, they have a lot

[51:26] of stake in the game, so I want to

[51:28] kind of throw that idea out there as a

[51:34] dream for this county.

[51:37] and with that, I'll end my comments

[51:42] here, but yeah, just kind of like

[51:44] feeling this moment of -- there' --

[51:48] there's a lot of weight right now

[51:52] and as we're half way through this

[51:56] current presidential term, I just -- I

[51:58] have a lot of hope for when this

[52:02] presidential term is over and what we

[52:04] can really get done when we get to

[52:06] start a new chapter.

[52:07] thank you.

[52:08] supervisor mueller?

[52:12] >> I want to thank my colleagues for

[52:14] bringing this item.

[52:15] I vote for it today thinking of my

[52:19] daughter, thank you.

[52:20] >> supervisor canepa?

[52:21] >> great, I just really want to thank

[52:23] our commission on the stat of women,

[52:24] you have done such a -- let's give

[52:26] them a round of applause.

[52:31] [applause].

[52:32] just such an amazing job.

[52:33] we really have extraordinary and

[52:37] competent leadership and I think this

[52:39] commission has made since I've been on

[52:41] this board an indelible mark in terms

[52:44] of not only women's lives but

[52:49] children's lives and residents' lives

[52:51] in general, it's been a high

[52:53] functioning commission that has been

[52:58] engaged and it's great to see.

[52:59] I want to recognize supervisor

[53:01] gauthier, supervisor corzo and

[53:03] supervisor speier for your leadership

[53:06] and supervisor gauthier being a

[53:08] sponsor of this says a lot.

[53:10] I know you're involved and engaged,

[53:14] you were on the east palo alto city

[53:17] council, but I'm happy to be a

[53:23] part of this celebration, I applaud

[53:24] each of your efforts in term of your

[53:25] leadership positions in the county.

[53:26] >> thank you.

[53:31] >> public comment, please.

[53:32] >> the commission's going to --

[53:34] >> I forgot about that part, please,

[53:38] we welcome your comments.

[53:39] >> I want to say I just thank

[53:41] everyone for your comments.

[53:43] I often say when you know better, you

[53:45] do better.

[53:46] in the united states, we know bet and

[53:50] her we have refused to have equal

[53:52] rights.

[53:53] I would like to invite my sisters in

[53:57] the equality fight who are showing up

[53:59] today in white to show unity in this

[54:02] work to the dais to give your remarks.

[54:06] >> thank you.

[54:08] good morning, honorable supervisors,

[54:10] county executives and staff.

[54:11] my name is anne gerard, the president

[54:16] of the commission on the status of

[54:17] women and I'm joined by vice-president

[54:22] lasanadra gutter.

[54:24] we bring hope and we want to thank you

[54:26] for all the support you have given us,

[54:29] for the initiatives we continue to

[54:31] advocate for but we are working

[54:33] together to improve the lives of women

[54:35] and families in the county.

[54:38] but most recently, your efforts to

[54:40] personally meet with stakeholders

[54:43] about child care, the allocation of

[54:46] measure k funds for the baby bonus,

[54:49] the investment of 10 million dollars

[54:52] and the one stop navigation portal,

[54:56] the trishare pilot program and the

[54:59] ongoing work to reduce the pay equity

[55:05] gap which currently is 4% in the

[55:06] county.

[55:07] we have work to do there and on the

[55:09] era.

[55:10] but we're here today together with our

[55:13] commission members and supporters to

[55:16] celebrate the 19th amendment to the

[55:19] u.s. Constitution which granted women

[55:21] the right to vote.

[55:22] but there's a really important part of

[55:24] that history that needs to be

[55:28] acknowledged.

[55:29] >> good morning, board and the

[55:32] executive team, so my name's lasandra

[55:34] gutter and I do feel like my comments

[55:38] have been said already but I feel

[55:41] they're important so I'm going to say

[55:43] them again.

[55:45] as we recognize women's equality

[55:47] day, the ratification of the 19th

[55:50] amendment and the women who fought

[55:52] courageously for the right to vote, we

[55:56] must also remember that native

[56:00] american, black, asian, latina and

[56:04] immigrant women were among those left

[56:09] behind.

[56:10] discrimination and jim crow laws were

[56:12] very active during that period in our

[56:15] history, silencing many voices, voting

[56:17] is having a voice.

[56:21] so, today I wonder how many women

[56:25] sitting in chambers would have been

[56:27] afforded the opportunity to vote to

[56:30] use her voice?

[56:33] well, the commission on the status of

[56:36] women is hosting an event today at the

[56:40] burlingame community center from 4:30

[56:42] to 6:00.

[56:44] we're in collaboration with kqed and

[56:47] we will be presenting a panel on

[56:49] affordability in san mateo county

[56:53] giving real-life examples of how

[56:56] voting can impact communities for the

[56:59] better.

[57:00] this is in keeping with the

[57:02] commission's focus on economic

[57:04] empowerment of women and we hope that

[57:07] the board and everyone in the room

[57:09] gets the opportunity to come today or

[57:12] I know we're going to have it

[57:15] streamed, to watch it because ut's

[57:16] going to be important and it's going to

[57:18] be fun because we're all going to be

[57:19] there, so thank you so much.

[57:22] >> thank you, lasandra.

[57:24] I think you've got the message that

[57:26] we're talking about voting and we hope

[57:29] everyone exercises their right this

[57:31] year and every year but we want to

[57:34] inspire you, we have a video that we

[57:37] have produced with supervisor

[57:40] gauthier's can-do attitude and her

[57:46] staff, bridgett berry, I'm not sure

[57:49] she's here, bridgett, you could stand

[57:51] up.

[57:54] [applause].

[57:55] bridgett shared her talents with us,

[57:56] so we'll let it roll.

[57:59] ( playing video ).

[58:03] >> I feel like I can make a difference.

[58:07] >> all votes matter.

[58:08] >> my voice deserves to be heard and

[58:10] will shape the future.

[58:11] >> I wasn't born with this right, I

[58:14] chose to become an american and voting

[58:16] is one way to honor that choice.

[58:19] >> voting is the foundation of our

[58:21] democracy.

[58:22] >> because it's the cornerstone of

[58:24] democracy.

[58:25] >> every vote matters, what may seem

[58:26] one vote if in hundreds of millions is

[58:31] inconsequential, together they make a

[58:32] huge difference.

[58:34] >> my daughter's daughter's daughter is

[58:37] inheriting this.

[58:38] >> I feel it's particularly important

[58:39] for me to be a voice for immigrants

[58:41] especially since so many of us don't

[58:42] have the right to vote.

[58:44] >> just because I matter.

[58:45] >> in a time where there is so much

[58:52] [inaudible]

[58:53] >> when I think of voting, I think of

[58:55] the word matter.

[58:56] matter means you take up space and I

[58:59] proudly take up space to share my

[59:01] voice and to vote.

[59:04] >> my parents and grandparents use

[59:05] their vote to make a better life for

[59:07] me.

[59:08] I want to use my vote to make a better

[59:10] life for my children and grandchildren.

[59:13] >> added to others, it makes the

[59:15] decision not only for our country and

[59:17] our state but for local issues as well

[59:20] and reflecting on my community.

[59:23] >> democracy is not a spectator

[59:27] sport.

[59:28] ( video complete ).

[59:32] [applause].

[59:35] >> it gets me every time.

[59:37] I don't know about you.

[59:38] so, I would like to invite our

[59:40] commission to come up and celebrate

[59:45] the day with all of you.

[59:49] >> yes, why don't you come up, but we

[59:51] will take public comment and then

[59:53] vote, but you can come up, go ahead,

[59:55] so we're ready, let's take public

[59:57] comment.

[59:58] >> we're taking public comment on item

[59:59] 3, the proclamation for women's

[1:00:01] equality tai.

[1:00:02] I do not have speaker cards for

[1:00:03] chambers, if you would like to make a

[1:00:06] comment online, please raise your hand

[1:00:07] at had this time.

[1:00:11] seeing no hands raised, there's no

[1:00:13] public comment for item number 3.

[1:00:17] >> okay, thank you.

[1:00:18] is there a motion to approve?

[1:00:20] >> I move approval

[1:00:22] of the proclamation.

[1:00:24] >> okay, motion and second, roll call

[1:00:27] vote.

[1:00:28] >> supervisor speier?

[1:00:29] >> aye.

[1:00:30] >> supervisor mueller?

[1:00:31] >> yes.

[1:00:32] >> supervisor gauthier?

[1:00:33] >> yes.

[1:00:34] >> supervisor canepa?

[1:00:35] >> aye.

[1:00:36] >> president corzo?

[1:00:37] >> yes.

[1:00:39] >> motion passes unanimously.

[1:00:40] >> okay.

[1:00:44] ( presenting proclamation ).

[1:02:03] >> okay, with that, we will move on

[1:02:05] to item number 4, presentation of a

[1:02:08] proclamation designating september

[1:02:10] 2026 as suicide prevention month, and

[1:02:15] supervisor canepa is the sponsor for

[1:02:17] this one.

[1:02:18] >> alright, thank you very much, madam

[1:02:20] chair.

[1:02:21] san mateo county joins communities

[1:02:23] across california and the nation in

[1:02:26] recognizing suicide prevention month

[1:02:30] in september, national suicide

[1:02:31] prevention work, september 6-12 and

[1:02:34] world suicide prevention day on

[1:02:35] september 10.

[1:02:37] this observance reinforce as critical

[1:02:39] message, suicide is preventable and

[1:02:41] every member of our community can play

[1:02:43] a role in offering hope, connection

[1:02:45] and support.

[1:02:48] in 2025, 65 san mateo county residents

[1:02:51] died by suicide.

[1:02:52] during that same year, the 988 suicide

[1:02:56] and crisis lifeline operated locally

[1:02:59] by the felton institute's

[1:03:02] peninsula suicide prevention

[1:03:05] received 9212 calls, 1073 chats and

[1:03:12] 1735 text messages from people seeking

[1:03:15] support.

[1:03:16] this year's theme, the weight we

[1:03:19] carry recognizes that many people,

[1:03:21] particularly men and boy of diverse

[1:03:23] sexual orientations and gender

[1:03:25] identities may carry invisible burdens

[1:03:27] such as emotional pain, stress, grief,

[1:03:31] isolation and social expectations.

[1:03:33] consistent with the state governor's

[1:03:35] executive order and 31-25 and the

[1:03:40] board's 2024 resolution recognizing

[1:03:44] loneliness as a public health crisis,

[1:03:46] this observance calls on our community

[1:03:47] to reduce stigma, strengthen belonging

[1:03:49] and social connection and ensure that

[1:03:52] no one carries these burdens alone.

[1:03:53] I want to recognize the partners

[1:03:57] contributing to the suicide prevention

[1:03:58] work, I would like to thank my

[1:03:59] colleagues on the board who have in

[1:04:01] different ways contributed to suicide

[1:04:03] prevention in our county, the felton

[1:04:06] institute peninsula suicide

[1:04:10] prevention team, taylor, walter,

[1:04:12] frankie and 24 crisis counselors, and

[1:04:16] our speakers today at san mateo county

[1:04:17] health, joining us to make a brief

[1:04:21] presentation include san mateo county

[1:04:23] health public health, policy and

[1:04:25] planning director, dr. Tamara jones

[1:04:28] and community health planner, sylvia

[1:04:31] tang, thank you for joining us today.

[1:04:33] >> welcome.

[1:04:45] >> good morning, president corzo,

[1:04:49] honorable supervisors, county

[1:04:51] executives, county staff and our

[1:04:54] community, I'm tamara jones, the

[1:04:55] director of public health policy and

[1:04:57] rabin and I'm honored to be here today

[1:05:02] to celebrate and thank you for the

[1:05:05] opportunity to recognize suicide

[1:05:07] prevention month and reaffirm the

[1:05:10] county's commitment to preventing

[1:05:14] suicide.

[1:05:16] since 2004, behavioral health and

[1:05:18] recovery services has advanced suicide

[1:05:21] prevention through the mental health

[1:05:23] services act funding.

[1:05:24] we want to recognize and thank bhrs

[1:05:29] for that leadership and this slide

[1:05:32] highlights a very small snippet of the

[1:05:36] wonderful and many contributions over

[1:05:38] the past two decades.

[1:05:41] as suicide prevention transitions to

[1:05:42] public health policy and planning

[1:05:46] under the behavioral health services

[1:05:48] act, we hope to build on that

[1:05:52] foundation.

[1:05:53] our work includes dedicated suicide

[1:05:57] prevention coordination, strategic

[1:05:58] planning and a focus on upstream

[1:06:03] prevention and policy, during this

[1:06:07] transition, our commitment to suicide

[1:06:08] prevention month and suicide

[1:06:11] prevention year-round remains

[1:06:13] steadfast.

[1:06:14] so, I'm joined today by the county

[1:06:18] suicide prevention coordinator and

[1:06:19] mitt myth tee co-chair, sylvia tang

[1:06:23] who will continue.

[1:06:30] >> good morning, suicide prevention

[1:06:31] month is to honor people affected by

[1:06:34] suicide, support those who are

[1:06:35] grieving and inspire collective action.

[1:06:38] the colors, purple and teal, represent

[1:06:44] suicide preparedness and health.

[1:06:46] suicide can be prevented, suicide

[1:06:48] affects all of us and talking openly

[1:06:51] and safely about suicide can save

[1:06:54] lives.

[1:06:55] so we want to reduce the shame and

[1:06:57] increase connection so we can lighten

[1:06:59] the weight that someone may be

[1:07:02] carrying and encourage them to seek

[1:07:06] support.

[1:07:07] throughout september, the suicide

[1:07:09] prevention committee, local cities and

[1:07:11] community artists will offer free

[1:07:13] in-person and virtual events, the

[1:07:14] updated information will be on our

[1:07:17] website.

[1:07:18] beyond september, we invite community

[1:07:20] participation in our suicide

[1:07:21] prevention committee for the county

[1:07:23] which provides guidance and oversight

[1:07:25] for suicide prevention throughout the

[1:07:28] county.

[1:07:31] every resident can help prevent

[1:07:32] suicide and we can to that by three

[1:07:36] key ways, one is learning the

[1:07:38] warning signs, two is knowing how to

[1:07:39] start a supportive conversation

[1:07:41] and three, connecting someone to

[1:07:45] support.

[1:07:46] key areas of support are local

[1:07:47] resources including the 988 suicide

[1:07:50] and crisis lifeline, alternatives to

[1:07:52] suicide peer support which is

[1:07:54] available for adults and youth and

[1:07:57] suicide law support group.

[1:08:00] we have great educational training and

[1:08:02] presentations by our partners as well

[1:08:05] and one key thing if you can't

[1:08:07] remember, anything I say is if you

[1:08:10] know anyone who is in emotional

[1:08:15] distress or thinking about suicide,

[1:08:16] please call 988, it could be for

[1:08:17] yourself or it could be for your loved

[1:08:21] one.

[1:08:22] and so I would like to -- we've

[1:08:26] invited michael to share a brief

[1:08:27] reflection of why this year's theme

[1:08:29] for suicide prevention is important to

[1:08:32] him and I'm hoping the video will

[1:08:36] work.

[1:08:37] >> hello, my name is michael

[1:08:39] coutts, I'm a san mateo county

[1:08:42] resident, a marine corps veteran,

[1:08:46] current navy reservist, an legislate

[1:08:50] rising's union apprentice as well as a

[1:08:51] mental health advocate, I serener five

[1:08:54] years as an infantry man including two

[1:09:00] deployments, and service members,

[1:09:02] first responders, veterans, I know

[1:09:03] there can be this unspoken and

[1:09:06] sometimes spoken expectation to carry

[1:09:07] a lot and to carry it quietly.

[1:09:11] that's why this year's suicide

[1:09:14] prevention month theme, the weight we

[1:09:16] carry, supporting men and boys' mental

[1:09:19] health resonates with me.

[1:09:20] strength isn't just about pushing

[1:09:22] through as hard or fast as we can,

[1:09:24] it's also about knowing whether to

[1:09:26] speak up, to check in on someone and

[1:09:28] to ask for support.

[1:09:31] this year, I'm honored to be a part of

[1:09:35] the upcoming event mission follows you

[1:09:37] home, veteran and first responder

[1:09:40] mental health forum on september 10.

[1:09:42] I hope you'll be there to join us as

[1:09:45] we have an important conversation

[1:09:48] about mental health, connection and

[1:09:49] supporting those who serve.

[1:09:50] thank you.

[1:09:55] >> big round of applause for michael,

[1:09:57] thank you, michael.

[1:10:00] [applause].

[1:10:01] and to close, we invite the san mateo

[1:10:04] county community to take action this

[1:10:05] september to support our community

[1:10:08] especially men and boys who may be

[1:10:11] less likely to ask for help.

[1:10:12] three key actions to emphasize, first,

[1:10:15] learning the warning signs including

[1:10:19] withdrawal, recklessness, major mood

[1:10:20] changes or talking about wanting to

[1:10:23] die.

[1:10:24] second, please share the suicide

[1:10:25] prevention events and resources

[1:10:28] especially 988.

[1:10:30] third, learn how to talk about suicide

[1:10:32] in a safe, compassionate and

[1:10:34] supportive way.

[1:10:37] normalize conversations about stress,

[1:10:39] grief and loneliness and show that

[1:10:40] reaching out is a sign of strength.

[1:10:43] and finally please consider joining

[1:10:47] our suicide prevention committee

[1:10:49] coalition.

[1:10:50] thank you, supervisor canepa,

[1:10:51] president corzo, and to member of the

[1:10:52] board of supervisors for your support

[1:10:54] and doing the suicide prevention work

[1:10:57] in different ways and helping -- and

[1:11:00] to everyone in our community for

[1:11:02] building hope, connection and

[1:11:07] belonging, together we can help ensure

[1:11:08] that no one has to carry this weight

[1:11:09] alone.

[1:11:10] thank you.

[1:11:15] >> thank you so much.

[1:11:17] did you want to share more comments,

[1:11:19] supervisor canepa?

[1:11:21] >> no

[1:11:22] >> any comments from my colleagues?

[1:11:24] okay.

[1:11:25] >> move the item.

[1:11:26] >> I just wanted to briefly say, you

[1:11:34] know, this topic hits close to home

[1:11:35] for me and sometimes it's a little

[1:11:43] overwhelming but I recently met with a

[1:11:55] small group of women who talked to me

[1:11:58] about being a part of their child's

[1:12:05] high school dlac committee and how

[1:12:11] they really wanted mental health and

[1:12:14] suicide prevention training in spanish

[1:12:16] and I talked to them about how I had

[1:12:19] gotten trained by nami to do a mental

[1:12:22] health training to freshmen and how I

[1:12:25] had done one and I didn't realize that

[1:12:29] like parents want to know this

[1:12:32] information and I told them about

[1:12:37] income ami and I don't know the if our

[1:12:38] county does that.

[1:12:39] we probable do, but -- probably do,

[1:12:42] if you need volunteers, I'm sure I

[1:12:45] could be trained myself or I could

[1:12:49] probably help like find people but it

[1:12:52] just made me really happy to know that

[1:12:56] even immigrants parents who don't

[1:12:59] speak english like really want this

[1:13:01] knowledge to help their kids and it

[1:13:10] gives me hope that we have families

[1:13:13] that want to break cycles and there's

[1:13:18] a thirst for knowledge, thank you for

[1:13:20] being part of the solution and for

[1:13:22] spreading all this good information

[1:13:25] and, yeah, I'm also grateful for the

[1:13:28] training that will happen on the 10th.

[1:13:33] I know in my district in foster city,

[1:13:38] we had an officer take his life I

[1:13:41] think a year or two ago at precinct

[1:13:43] and it was a really difficult tragedy

[1:13:48] for folks there, so it's very much

[1:13:52] needed.

[1:13:53] so, thank you.

[1:13:55] with that, I think we can move on to

[1:13:57] public comment.

[1:14:00] >> okay, we'll be taking public

[1:14:02] comment on item number 4, do you have

[1:14:05] two speaker cards from chambers, I'll

[1:14:08] start with walter ing and taylor coutts.

[1:14:26] >> good morning, my name is walter

[1:14:28] ing, the community engagement

[1:14:30] supervisor with peninsula suicide

[1:14:34] prevention, for over 60 years,

[1:14:35] our diverse team of 24 counselors have

[1:14:37] stood on the front lioness of crisis

[1:14:39] intervention here in san mateo county,

[1:14:41] we proudly answer local calls for the

[1:14:45] 98 crisis lifeline providing

[1:14:46] compassionate support for those

[1:14:48] experiencing mental health crisis.

[1:14:50] beyond the phone line and we deploy

[1:14:53] vital educational training, we provide

[1:14:56] [inaudible] to schools, to county

[1:14:59] agencies, to non-profits community

[1:15:01] organizations throughout san mateo

[1:15:03] county, bringing awarded of that

[1:15:05] information for that, but we extend

[1:15:07] our greatest grat taout to the suicide

[1:15:09] prevention committee as being a

[1:15:11] continued partner in helping create

[1:15:13] awareness about information about 988,

[1:15:16] but also for the leadership of

[1:15:19] everyone here presenting to this board

[1:15:20] because you guys all take a certain

[1:15:23] step towards that section of creating

[1:15:25] that awareness but also informing your

[1:15:28] own constituents of that information

[1:15:29] as well, so as we look ahead, we are

[1:15:32] immensely thankful for your continued

[1:15:33] support and we look forward to expand

[1:15:36] culturally responsive training both in

[1:15:37] different languages but also providing

[1:15:42] interpretation and providing services

[1:15:43] throughout the county creating that

[1:15:45] awareness as well.

[1:15:46] I have encountered a lot of

[1:15:48] individuals at tabling who have asked

[1:15:50] us about those magnets that are in

[1:15:53] spanish, they asked us if we do

[1:15:55] presentations in spanish, we don't at

[1:15:56] this time but I think in

[1:15:57] collaboration, we can do something

[1:15:59] with interpreters to provide that

[1:16:02] support and/or finding volunteers who

[1:16:04] might provide that support as well.

[1:16:06] again, 988 is a free confidential

[1:16:09] service available for all residents

[1:16:11] regardless of immigration status,

[1:16:13] regardless of what language you speak,

[1:16:15] support can be found through that

[1:16:17] resource, it is available 24 hours 7

[1:16:19] day asing week and it gives people

[1:16:23] services that they need at any time.

[1:16:26] don't wait, call 988.

[1:16:29] >> thank you.

[1:16:31] we'll do taylor coutts.

[1:16:44] >> good morning, I'm a very proud

[1:16:47] wife, I'm glad you got to meet my

[1:16:50] partner in crime, I'm his significant

[1:16:53] partner, taylor, and I'm honored to

[1:17:03] see this, our team is small but mighty,

[1:17:06] over 96% of our staff have lived

[1:17:08] experience with mental illness,

[1:17:09] suicide and suicide loss.

[1:17:14] so, this work is our heart's work.

[1:17:15] I'm proud to be here today alongside

[1:17:16] sylvia and our amazing county partners

[1:17:18] recognize september as suicide

[1:17:19] prevention month.

[1:17:20] theses more than a proclamation, it is

[1:17:21] a community commitment here in san

[1:17:24] mateo county ensuring people know they

[1:17:25] are not alone and help is available.

[1:17:29] peninsula suicide prevention is

[1:17:30] humbled to support our community

[1:17:31] across the continuum of care like

[1:17:34] walter mentioned, prevention,

[1:17:35] intervention and post mention, walking

[1:17:38] alongside folks and uplifting them

[1:17:41] through their hardest moments,

[1:17:45] supporting folks after loss, and

[1:17:47] ensuring folks are connected to one

[1:17:49] another and services so we can prevent

[1:17:51] crisis from happening.

[1:17:54] suicide is often an area of stigma,

[1:17:57] struggling to find meaning and hope

[1:17:59] and connection when things feel heavy

[1:18:00] is one of the most yun verse sal human

[1:18:04] experiences, this september we

[1:18:06] invite everyone to help create a

[1:18:07] community where service conversations

[1:18:09] are met with compassion and connection

[1:18:11] and hope without judgment.

[1:18:14] and we thank you all for your

[1:18:17] continued support and partnership

[1:18:18] with our work in this cause, this work

[1:18:19] cannot be done in isolation and

[1:18:20] together we can remind san mateo

[1:18:21] county that help is available and hope

[1:18:23] is possible and worth it and no one

[1:18:25] has to carry this weight alone.

[1:18:26] thank you.

[1:18:29] >> thank you.

[1:18:30] and we'll go to zoom.

[1:18:34] speaking on item number 4, this is

[1:18:35] going to be a final call for item 4.

[1:18:37] alright, we have four hands raised.

[1:18:41] natallia, please unmute and begin.

[1:18:42] >> hello.

[1:18:43] >> hello.

[1:18:48] >> as we approach suicide prevention

[1:18:51] month and overdose awareness day, I

[1:18:53] would like to stress how critical it

[1:18:55] is to select a quality well vetted

[1:18:58] provider of mental health and

[1:19:00] addiction treatment services.

[1:19:01] with that, I urge this board to

[1:19:04] immediately withdraw our county's

[1:19:06] endorsement and matching grant for

[1:19:09] horizon recovery services.

[1:19:11] in my city, they manage facility, as

[1:19:15] it has egregious operating history.

[1:19:19] >> natallia I'm going to please sd you

[1:19:21] to speak to this item only and reserve

[1:19:24] your comment for horizon when that is

[1:19:27] the actual item.

[1:19:28] >> I wasn't able to speak in public

[1:19:31] comment and you're not letting me

[1:19:32] speak now?

[1:19:33] >> if you are going to speak to

[1:19:36] suicide prevention month, you can

[1:19:37] speak.

[1:19:38] >> it is, like mental health and

[1:19:41] addiction treatment services.

[1:19:45] >> if you want to speak to suicide

[1:19:47] prevention month, please continue your

[1:19:49] comment, if not, we will move on to

[1:19:51] the next public commenter.

[1:19:53] >> okay, can you restart my time?

[1:20:03] okay, so yeah, it's critical to vet

[1:20:07] providers of mental health and

[1:20:11] addiction treatment services and I'm

[1:20:12] urging this board to immediately

[1:20:15] withdraw our county's endorsement and

[1:20:17] matching grant to recover -- to

[1:20:20] horizon recovery services

[1:20:21] >> let's move on to the next

[1:20:22] speaker, please.

[1:20:23] thank you.

[1:20:24] >> we'll go to laticia and lagia,

[1:20:29] please unmute and begin.

[1:20:32] >> good morning, my name is leticia, I

[1:20:36] serve on the behavioral health

[1:20:40] commission.

[1:20:41] I've also been a part of the suicide

[1:20:43] prevention committee and I just wanted

[1:20:45] to lend my voice in appreciation and

[1:20:50] support, really I could have possibly

[1:20:54] spoken for even the overdose a-- the

[1:20:58] previous proclamations, it just really

[1:21:00] as a san mateo resident and engaged

[1:21:05] community member, it just makes me

[1:21:07] very proud to know that as taylor just

[1:21:11] shared, just really display the

[1:21:15] commitment that we have as a county to

[1:21:18] care for our most vulnerable and there

[1:21:21] is a lot of education.

[1:21:24] I know there's certainly resources

[1:21:27] that I'm most proud of, you know, as I

[1:21:30] sit on the behavioral health

[1:21:32] commission, we are often seeing really

[1:21:38] witnessing firsthand and as advocates

[1:21:41] here in the community, it really just

[1:21:45] gives us immense -- yeah, just really

[1:21:48] pride in that what we see is a lot of

[1:21:54] collaboration, the community partners,

[1:21:57] there's unity, and it really does take

[1:22:01] that as was shared previously, each

[1:22:05] individual, each of us can make a

[1:22:08] difference as we are aware of the

[1:22:12] loneliness epidemic, it is real

[1:22:15] nationally and these are the types of

[1:22:19] ways in which celebrating

[1:22:23] proclamations as these, the training,

[1:22:25] education and coming together as a

[1:22:29] community partner I think just really

[1:22:32] makes difference, so thank you.

[1:22:34] >> thank you.

[1:22:35] we'll go ahead and go to lagia and

[1:22:38] then isabella.

[1:22:39] please unmute.

[1:22:43] >> good morning, supervisors,

[1:22:47] president corzo, staff and the public.

[1:22:49] my name is ligia, I use she/her

[1:22:56] pronoun, I'm the executive director of

[1:22:58] independence of individuals with

[1:22:59] disabilities and I'm speaking as board

[1:23:01] trustee for the san mateo union high

[1:23:03] school district.

[1:23:04] I wanted to -- I've been a member of

[1:23:07] the suicide prevention commission as

[1:23:10] well.

[1:23:11] I want to say thank you to the board

[1:23:14] for having this recognition.

[1:23:17] this committee is so important for our

[1:23:20] county, for information, education and

[1:23:25] awareness.

[1:23:26] we have a significant population of

[1:23:29] folks within our disabled community

[1:23:31] that have a lot of anxiety,

[1:23:36] depression, a lot of mental health

[1:23:37] needs related to losing their

[1:23:40] benefits, related to even just being

[1:23:43] isolated and losing their in-home care

[1:23:45] right now is a critical time for our

[1:23:48] community in being present and in

[1:23:51] being seen and just having the

[1:23:53] services that they need to feel

[1:23:58] connected.

[1:23:59] as a person with a disability, it's --

[1:24:02] I can speak to my own lived experience

[1:24:05] of not having enough care and how it

[1:24:08] relates to your mental health.

[1:24:10] it's very scary and it is extremely

[1:24:15] lonely and isolating, so I just want

[1:24:16] to say thank you to the board again

[1:24:19] and to the committee for including

[1:24:22] folks with disabilities within this

[1:24:24] topic and then also to not forget that

[1:24:27] our community is also unseen and

[1:24:31] vulnerable, so thank you very much and

[1:24:34] I'm grateful.

[1:24:37] >> thank you, we'll conclude with

[1:24:41] isabel, please unmute and begin.

[1:24:42] >> I wanted to start by thanking the

[1:24:45] board of supervisors by recognizing

[1:24:46] september as suicide prevention month

[1:24:49] and for continuing to bring attention

[1:24:51] to such an important work through san

[1:24:53] mateo county.

[1:24:55] also especially acknowledgment to

[1:24:58] sylvia tang for bringing awareness,

[1:25:01] education, resources and just hope to

[1:25:02] our community.

[1:25:03] and to sylvia for her continued

[1:25:05] dedication and hard work in bringing

[1:25:07] people and partners together many

[1:25:10] support of suicide prevention, so

[1:25:11] thank you.

[1:25:12] >> alright, thank you, that concludes

[1:25:16] public comment.

[1:25:17] >> okay.

[1:25:18] thank you so much for bringing this

[1:25:20] forward, supervisor canepa.

[1:25:21] and I would love to hear a motion.

[1:25:23] >> I'll move the item.

[1:25:24] >> second.

[1:25:25] >> we have a motion and a second,

[1:25:26] roll call vote.

[1:25:28] >> supervisor speier?

[1:25:29] >> aye.

[1:25:30] >> supervisor mueller?

[1:25:31] >> yes.

[1:25:32] >> supervisor gauthier?

[1:25:33] >> yes.

[1:25:34] >> supervisor canepa?

[1:25:35] >> aye.

[1:25:38] >> president corzo?

[1:25:39] >> aye.

[1:25:40] okay, we will now present the

[1:25:42] proclamation.

[1:25:43] ( presenting proclamation ).

[1:27:17] >> thank you, with that, we'll move

[1:27:19] on to item number 5, presentation on

[1:27:26] the impacts of an ongoing deficit for

[1:27:30] caltrain, and supervisor can --

[1:27:33] canepa is the sponsor.

[1:27:34] >> first of all, let me thank our

[1:27:37] executive director, michelle bouchard

[1:27:40] and casey who we'll be hearing

[1:27:42] later from.

[1:27:44] today caltrain carries a total of

[1:27:48] three freeway lanes worth of people

[1:27:51] during peak periods on highway 101

[1:27:54] where traffic is already at 93% of

[1:27:57] pre-pandemic levels at rush hour.

[1:28:00] although caltrain is one of the

[1:28:02] peninsula's greatest transportation

[1:28:04] assets is approaching a serious fiscal

[1:28:07] cliff that could have major

[1:28:09] consequences for san mateo county

[1:28:12] residents.

[1:28:13] the concern is especially striking

[1:28:14] because caltrain is succeeding,

[1:28:17] ridership is growing, customer

[1:28:20] satisfaction is strong and the new

[1:28:23] electrified system is providing

[1:28:26] faster, cleaner and more reliable

[1:28:29] service.

[1:28:30] we also know that caltrain is a key

[1:28:31] driver of economic activity for

[1:28:37] cities and businesses throughout san

[1:28:39] mateo county.

[1:28:41] with businesses with commercial

[1:28:43] properties located near stations.

[1:28:45] yet without a stable long term source

[1:28:47] of funding, caltrain could face an

[1:28:49] annual operating deficit of

[1:28:51] approximately 75 million dollars and

[1:28:54] potentially significant service

[1:28:55] reductions in the coming years.

[1:29:00] the consequences could be dramatic,

[1:29:03] the elimination of weekend services,

[1:29:06] trains running only once an hour,

[1:29:10] station closures, earlier service

[1:29:12] endings and fewer transportation

[1:29:14] options for families, workers,

[1:29:16] students and seniors.

[1:29:18] that would mean more cars on highway

[1:29:22] 101, more traffic and more pollution.

[1:29:24] it would also undermine the tremendous

[1:29:28] public investment already made to

[1:29:31] modernize and electrify this critical

[1:29:32] rail system.

[1:29:35] as a caltrain board member, I believe

[1:29:38] maintaining a strong transit system is

[1:29:40] an investment in our environment,

[1:29:42] economy and quality of life.

[1:29:44] with that, I would like to welcome

[1:29:49] michelle bouchard and casey to say a

[1:29:52] few words.

[1:29:53] >> thank you so much for your service

[1:29:54] on the caltrain board.

[1:29:56] president corzo, supervisors, I'm here

[1:29:59] to basically introduce casey who's

[1:30:00] going to be heavy lifting on this

[1:30:02] presentation, I did want to emphasize

[1:30:04] a few things that the supervisor

[1:30:07] mentioned in his introduction of this

[1:30:10] item.

[1:30:11] we are close to two years after having

[1:30:14] launched electrification.

[1:30:15] and I think by all accounts, really

[1:30:18] the investment that was made in the

[1:30:21] railroad really has transformed the

[1:30:24] service.

[1:30:25] this year, we were just announced

[1:30:29] apta's outstanding transportation

[1:30:30] agency and that's amongst all of the

[1:30:32] transit agencies in the united states

[1:30:33] and it really does bear out the

[1:30:35] benefit and the transformational

[1:30:37] quality of electrification.

[1:30:40] we also have been named fastest

[1:30:42] growing transit agency in the united

[1:30:44] states and that's as a result of

[1:30:46] having trip times that are much

[1:30:48] shorter, having a world class

[1:30:51] environment on board the train and all

[1:30:53] of the other associated benefits that

[1:30:56] electrification has brought.

[1:30:58] as you emphasized, supervisor, the

[1:31:00] benefits do not just accrue

[1:31:03] to our riders, they accrue to all of the

[1:31:06] stations where property values are

[1:31:07] enhanced and they also accrue to folks

[1:31:09] who are using 101 and 280 was we are

[1:31:13] taking three lanes of traffic.

[1:31:16] we are unfortunately at an inflection

[1:31:18] point and casey's going to present

[1:31:20] some slides, we have been talking to

[1:31:22] the caltrain board about for the last

[1:31:25] several months and have been

[1:31:27] preparing for what is an unfortunate

[1:31:30] as we call it fiscal cliff for the

[1:31:33] last few years, and casey's going tell

[1:31:35] you all of the steps we've taken to

[1:31:38] put ourselves in the best possible

[1:31:39] situation in terms of lowering co-s

[1:31:46] and increasing efficiencies and we do

[1:31:48] hope that there will be an opportunity

[1:31:49] for us to receive additional funding

[1:31:51] towards the end of the year and casey

[1:31:55] will talk about what we will continue

[1:31:56] to do to make ourselves a better

[1:31:59] railroad but also we'll describe some

[1:32:02] of the unfortunate consequences that

[1:32:03] we're facing.

[1:32:06] with that, I will introduce

[1:32:09] caltrain's chief of staff, casey

[1:32:14] fransin, chief of staff.

[1:32:17] >> I'll jump into the conversation

[1:32:19] hopefully.

[1:32:20] you guys know the organization well so

[1:32:22] I'm not going to go into that, when

[1:32:27] we've done information about the

[1:32:29] corridor, we have 82 favorability

[1:32:32] rating, if you ride the system, it's

[1:32:35] better and we're putting out a real

[1:32:38] world class system.

[1:32:40] and caltrain is something that's part

[1:32:42] of everybody's -- not everybody's but

[1:32:44] for millions of people, it's part of

[1:32:47] their daily existence, they take it to

[1:32:48] go to school, to work, to special

[1:32:51] events.

[1:32:52] it's part of their fabric of their day

[1:32:54] and as it's been mentioned, it's not

[1:32:56] just a daily part of people's lives,

[1:32:58] we have these big regional benefit

[1:33:01] from removing traffic to making a

[1:33:04] stronger economy, serving almost 40%

[1:33:05] of the bay area population and cleaner

[1:33:08] air when we think about the future

[1:33:10] generations and what our goals are, we

[1:33:12] have a system that's 100% renewable

[1:33:17] electric.

[1:33:18] and this slide talks about some of

[1:33:20] those benefits, we're not trying to

[1:33:22] not think just from our perspective,

[1:33:23] what are we doing for our

[1:33:25] communities and the region, higher

[1:33:27] property values, contributing to the

[1:33:29] higher tax base so people are able to

[1:33:34] invest those resources in other

[1:33:35] activities as well.

[1:33:36] we have lots of major initiatives

[1:33:37] along the corridor that's highlighted

[1:33:42] on the left side, I wanted to call out

[1:33:43] one smaller one, when we think about

[1:33:44] doing all these projects, how do we do

[1:33:45] them more cost effective with

[1:33:48] innovation, we're using technology

[1:33:51] that helped us in one of the crosses,

[1:33:53] we had three vehicles a week turning

[1:33:55] on to the tracks in that location, we

[1:33:57] worked with the local city, with the

[1:34:00] technology providers to make sure they

[1:34:01] can enhance the audio whether you go

[1:34:04] across the tracks and invested

[1:34:06] hundreds of thousands of dollars, not

[1:34:08] millions, with these cost effective

[1:34:12] tools and the items that you have up

[1:34:14] there, we've had 0 cars on the tracks

[1:34:16] since then, that's over a year and a

[1:34:18] half since we put that in place and

[1:34:20] we're rolling that out throughout the

[1:34:21] corridor to make it an even safer

[1:34:25] corridor.

[1:34:26] and everybody's talked about it, the

[1:34:28] three legged stool and what people

[1:34:29] want for their services, it's faster,

[1:34:31] more frequent, a better service and

[1:34:33] the fourth one which is a bonus is

[1:34:35] it's a great reliable system, 95%, you

[1:34:38] can time or schedule your day, your

[1:34:41] weekend around a service that's going

[1:34:43] to show up whether you need it to be

[1:34:46] there.

[1:34:47] as we've talked about with growing

[1:34:48] ridership, we have a lot of different

[1:34:50] numberers to cut this and show how

[1:34:51] much growth that we've had, but we see

[1:34:53] it not just on the people using it to

[1:34:56] get to and from work but we have the

[1:34:58] highest weekend ridership ever in the

[1:35:00] system so it's a 200% increase of

[1:35:03] what it was even pre-pandemic and we're

[1:35:06] also seeing people taking it to

[1:35:08] different events, sorting events,

[1:35:10] concerts, it's a service with a system

[1:35:12] we have that you can use it for lots

[1:35:14] of different activities, we have a dollar

[1:35:19] youth fare and they're bringing their

[1:35:23] parents on board to use it as well.

[1:35:26] our ridership has diversified, we have

[1:35:27] a system that works for everybody's

[1:35:32] schedules, and again, every single

[1:35:37] city is seeing this increase because

[1:35:40] we've expanded what our service

[1:35:43] increases are for everybody.

[1:35:48] we know that our partnerships with

[1:35:50] cities are really critical, they have

[1:35:51] the ability to help shape how

[1:35:54] communities interact with each of our

[1:35:55] stations so we put a special focus on

[1:35:58] our relationship with them and we've

[1:36:00] heard from cities too that they know

[1:36:02] -- they do some of these activities

[1:36:04] not just because it benefits the

[1:36:07] railroad, it benefits their community

[1:36:08] and how it brags with their downtown

[1:36:11] and the other local businesses we have

[1:36:13] there so we're leaning into this

[1:36:15] partnership and going into each of the

[1:36:16] cities along the corridor and

[1:36:19] highlighting the lovely amenities and

[1:36:21] things that happen in these

[1:36:23] communities, making it a win, win for

[1:36:25] these cities as well as there caltrain.

[1:36:27] so, shifting gears,

[1:36:32] those are a lot of the

[1:36:34] positive points but we have to be

[1:36:35] realistic about what we're facing as

[1:36:37] well.

[1:36:38] this shows the dramatic increase in

[1:36:40] ridership we've seen, in 2020, we had

[1:36:45] 2% of the ridership we had, we have

[1:36:46] this great trend that's occurring but

[1:36:47] it's not quite what it was in 2018,

[1:36:52] 2019.

[1:36:53] fares are a big piece of the puzzle

[1:36:54] for us, we withdrew to have 70% of our

[1:36:57] budget covered from fares, that was

[1:36:59] bringing in 100 million dollars, today

[1:37:01] it's closer to 40 million dollars.

[1:37:02] this is still nation leading for a

[1:37:05] transit system, most systems don't

[1:37:06] bring in and cover that much with

[1:37:08] fares but it's certainly not what it

[1:37:10] was before.

[1:37:11] and we get to that bigger number for a

[1:37:14] couple of different reasons.

[1:37:16] commute patterns have changed, people

[1:37:17] are not going into the office five

[1:37:20] days a week, we see a high water

[1:37:23] mark of three day as week.

[1:37:25] ridership is growing but not as much

[1:37:27] as it was before, costs have risen

[1:37:28] with inflation and we to have another

[1:37:32] 50 plus miles of new infrastructure we

[1:37:34] have in place that we have to

[1:37:36] maintain with our new electrified

[1:37:38] system that we didn't have before.

[1:37:41] again, this is what it looks like over

[1:37:43] time and we know we really need to

[1:37:45] manage this carefully.

[1:37:46] so what we're doing is looking

[1:37:48] internally first, what are we doing to

[1:37:50] be a well run organization that's

[1:37:53] looking everywhere for cost

[1:37:55] containment strategy, strategic

[1:37:57] hiring freezes, a comprehensive

[1:38:00] cost reduction efficiency program.

[1:38:02] we held our operating contractor to

[1:38:05] previous year levels which looks like

[1:38:07] a cut then.

[1:38:08] we have crew inefficiencies recouping

[1:38:10] costs from electricity, we're

[1:38:13] sending back 40% of our electricity

[1:38:14] to the grid and 20% of it is what

[1:38:17] goes there, we weren't getting paid

[1:38:19] for that until recently with help of

[1:38:22] some of our elected officials.

[1:38:24] we appreciate that support.

[1:38:25] we also have looked at the past mtc

[1:38:28] recently did a study showing over the

[1:38:30] past five years, caltrain saved

[1:38:33] roughly 70 million dollars on cost

[1:38:39] containment strategies, this month the

[1:38:40] federal government, the triannual

[1:38:41] review is an audit of our system, they

[1:38:42] found no findings, that means we're

[1:38:44] doing business to the best of our

[1:38:45] ability and being transparent and

[1:38:46] doing it well.

[1:38:49] but we need to look on the other side

[1:38:50] as well.

[1:38:51] how can we monetize all of the assets

[1:38:53] we have so we're making sure we're

[1:38:55] bringing in revenue from different

[1:38:57] sources, on this slide, it shows of a

[1:39:00] variety of the elements from the short

[1:39:03] term items of these special events,

[1:39:05] parking, advertising, to the onuses

[1:39:06] that are longer term of leasing out,

[1:39:09] fiber optic cable, these are

[1:39:12] things we need to look at in the long

[1:39:14] run to make sure we have strong

[1:39:16] financial future for caltrain.

[1:39:20] so as michelle said, we have

[1:39:21] been talking to our board for many,

[1:39:23] many months about this and what it

[1:39:25] looks like, in june, our board adopted

[1:39:27] a framework for what we need to look

[1:39:29] at and this is giving us two paths, if

[1:39:33] in november there is a successful

[1:39:35] outcome, we will be able to continue

[1:39:37] the level of service that we have been

[1:39:40] providing and the quality that we know

[1:39:42] that provides the region.

[1:39:45] if it does not and there isn't another

[1:39:50] external source of funding, we will

[1:39:52] have to prepare and look at what those

[1:39:53] cuts could look like and being

[1:39:55] transparent about what that could mean.

[1:39:57] so we've presented to the caltrain

[1:39:59] board these options, again, today, the

[1:40:02] service frequency we have but what we

[1:40:04] have been talking about is hourly

[1:40:05] service going back to that, no weekend

[1:40:09] service, early shutdowns, no special

[1:40:10] events and station closures.

[1:40:12] this is not something we do lightly

[1:40:14] because we know especially for rail

[1:40:18] systems, this doesn't help nus the

[1:40:19] long run, it will start the downward

[1:40:22] spiral when we have less riders and

[1:40:24] less revenue.

[1:40:32] and then the last slide here is that

[1:40:34] we are calling this an inflection

[1:40:37] point, we certainly are not taking

[1:40:38] this issue lightly and we're going

[1:40:40] around to the different cities and to

[1:40:42] the board of supervisors to make sure

[1:40:46] we're here to answer your questions,

[1:40:49] to know what we're thinking about and

[1:40:50] being prepared for what comes ahead.

[1:40:51] with that, we're happy to answer any

[1:40:52] questions you may have.

[1:40:55] >> thank you so much, supervisor

[1:40:56] mueller?

[1:40:57] >> I do have a question,

[1:41:01] the special event training for the

[1:41:03] giantess are very popular.

[1:41:05] they're also very full.

[1:41:07] and I've always wondered why it was

[1:41:09] threatened that you would be canceling

[1:41:11] trains that were full?

[1:41:13] why is that?

[1:41:14] >> yeah.

[1:41:15] I think that it's really with a gap as

[1:41:18] big as the one we're looking at, no

[1:41:21] one small piece is going to do it.

[1:41:23] you have to look at all of the

[1:41:26] different kind of levels of where

[1:41:28] we're going to have to pull the

[1:41:29] trigger for that.

[1:41:31] I think we will also have a more

[1:41:34] detailed analysis if we need to come

[1:41:36] back in january of what does the

[1:41:39] detail look behind these major kind of

[1:41:41] elements we're talking about.

[1:41:43] I don't know, michelle, if you want to

[1:41:45] add anything on to it.

[1:41:47] >> that logic doesn't really carry

[1:41:49] for me, the giants day trains which

[1:41:52] happen throughout the season are full

[1:41:54] trains, yet the public is being

[1:41:56] threatened with those special event

[1:41:58] trains being cancelled.

[1:41:59] I don't understand the logic if

[1:42:01] they're full and they're actually --

[1:42:03] some of the fullest trains caltrain

[1:42:06] has.

[1:42:07] >> they're also the most expensive

[1:42:08] type of trains to put out on the

[1:42:10] service because we're operating all of

[1:42:12] it at overtime.

[1:42:13] >> can you get closer to the mic.,

[1:42:14] please.

[1:42:16] >> we're operating all at overtime.

[1:42:18] >> why would you be operating at

[1:42:20] overtime if you were canceling trains

[1:42:22] that weren't full?

[1:42:23] >> because it wouldn't be part of the

[1:42:25] regular service.

[1:42:26] every train that we operate beyond

[1:42:28] what is planned for, so, if we have to

[1:42:31] go to hourly service, that is what we

[1:42:34] will be building out with the crews, so

[1:42:36] anything else that is added on top of

[1:42:39] that would be at overtime.

[1:42:40] >> why wouldn't you be scheduling --

[1:42:43] if you're canceling, if you're doing

[1:42:45] service reductions and you're getting

[1:42:47] rid of trains that presumably aren't

[1:42:49] full and paying for theses, why

[1:42:51] wouldn't you add into regular service

[1:42:52] the trains that you're calling special

[1:42:54] event now which are full and producing

[1:42:56] revenue?

[1:42:57] >> to be clear, when you talk about

[1:43:00] that logic, we won't be operating

[1:43:03] express trains either anymore because

[1:43:05] we are obligated to provide coverage --

[1:43:08] >> that's not answering my question.

[1:43:09] I wasn't talking about express trains.

[1:43:11] >> but those are also the most crowded

[1:43:15] trains, I wanted to draw a parallel,

[1:43:20] we have to basically strip the service

[1:43:22] down to the most efficient service

[1:43:27] possible.

[1:43:29] we don't make money on any of the

[1:43:30] service.

[1:43:31] >> I'm still lost, so you're saying

[1:43:32] that you would be canceling your

[1:43:34] most high demand trains?

[1:43:38] >> yes, because we have to provide the

[1:43:42] most efficient service.

[1:43:43] it's high demand, it's also the

[1:43:48] highest cost and the fares are higher

[1:43:53] than the ones we're getting on those

[1:43:54] trains.

[1:43:59] >> we can revisit this.

[1:44:00] >> we're happy to sit down with you

[1:44:02] and share the numbers.

[1:44:03] >> okay, thank you for spading to

[1:44:05] those questions.

[1:44:06] I have a couple myself as well.

[1:44:07] so, I have a few questions and I kind

[1:44:15] of want to speak in laymen's terms for

[1:44:18] folks that are new to transit.

[1:44:21] one of the examples that I like to

[1:44:23] share with folks especially that are

[1:44:25] not from the bay area that are like

[1:44:27] why is our transit in jeopardy, like,

[1:44:29] I don't get it, right.

[1:44:32] so, folks that come from other parts

[1:44:33] of the country or the world for

[1:44:37] example, it's very foreign to them

[1:44:40] that our public transit systems are

[1:44:46] fare-based, that they're funded by

[1:44:48] fares and that's why we find ourselves

[1:44:51] in these -- in this situation where we

[1:44:54] are at fiscal cliffs.

[1:44:57] that's like the most basic way I can

[1:44:59] explain it to people because in other

[1:45:01] areas where transit is very reliable

[1:45:05] and like much more frequent services,

[1:45:11] it's usually more like community

[1:45:13] funded or government funded, like, has

[1:45:16] different funding sources.

[1:45:17] do you feel like that's part of the

[1:45:21] core issue here?

[1:45:24] >> yeah, absolutely.

[1:45:26] the subsidies we get today compared to

[1:45:29] many other places are dramatically

[1:45:31] different.

[1:45:32] >> okay.

[1:45:33] and so because our systems are mostly

[1:45:37] fare-based and funded by fares, we

[1:45:41] face a reality that after the pandemic

[1:45:44] with so many people working from home,

[1:45:46] we have not been able to get back to

[1:45:52] pre-pandemic ridership, correct?

[1:45:53] >> correct.

[1:45:54] >> okay.

[1:45:55] >> yes.

[1:45:57] >> okay, so now basically all of the

[1:46:03] bay area transit operators are in

[1:46:09] these fiscally dire situations and

[1:46:13] even as you were saying, the most --

[1:46:20] the -- I forget what term you were

[1:46:22] saying, like the most -- yeah, the

[1:46:28] highest in demand trains which are the

[1:46:33] most expensive including express which

[1:46:34] kind of blows my mind would be --

[1:46:39] would no longer be available to people

[1:46:43] because they're just more expensive to

[1:46:45] operate.

[1:46:46] so, can you give me an example of like

[1:46:48] -- let's say an hourly that stops at

[1:46:51] every stop versus an express, what's

[1:46:52] the difference in the cost to operate

[1:46:54] those for example?

[1:46:58] >> yeah, so, when you cost it out, you

[1:47:00] have to cost it out as a complete

[1:47:03] system.

[1:47:04] so, the most expensive type of service

[1:47:05] to operate is in the peak period

[1:47:08] because you're operating a lot of

[1:47:09] trains all at once, so we're not

[1:47:11] able to use the crews as efficiently

[1:47:14] as if we're operating trains once an

[1:47:17] hour or respectively, so --

[1:47:25] repetitively.

[1:47:26] it's difficult to do that on a train

[1:47:28] by train passes because we have to take

[1:47:30] the entire system cost into account.

[1:47:32] but the fact is you're probably using

[1:47:35] the peak period crews to probably only

[1:47:38] operate two trains but you're still

[1:47:41] paying them 8 hours versus if you're

[1:47:43] operating a steady amount of trains

[1:47:45] throughout the day so no peaking, and

[1:47:48] that way believe it or not, the crews

[1:47:50] can be used more efficiently, you just

[1:47:53] can't provide the type of service that

[1:47:56] would be express or would be peaked

[1:47:58] service.

[1:47:59] >> okay, and then like for special

[1:48:02] events, like, I mean, that changes

[1:48:06] every season, right, and you don't

[1:48:10] really likely like -- what does that

[1:48:12] communication look like for the giants

[1:48:14] games or the warriors games, like how

[1:48:18] -- how much notice do you get on those

[1:48:20] schedules?

[1:48:21] >> sure, so we do it on a year by year

[1:48:23] basis.

[1:48:24] this year initially because we were

[1:48:26] operating the half hourly service, we

[1:48:29] didn't anticipate providing any

[1:48:31] additional service but then once we

[1:48:32] found that a lot more people were

[1:48:36] riding the train, then we added

[1:48:41] service, so we added service, I think

[1:48:42] it was at the beginning of the season

[1:48:43] this season but we were able to handle

[1:48:44] the loads without extra service last

[1:48:45] year because of the half hourly

[1:48:47] service, so it all depends.

[1:48:49] right now we find ourselves in

[1:48:50] positions where we are providing more

[1:48:53] rides to a all sorts of different

[1:48:55] types of events on the peninsula, so

[1:48:58] as an example, we have partnerships

[1:49:00] with the sharks and bay fc, for

[1:49:03] those games, we don't require extra

[1:49:05] trains because of the loads.

[1:49:07] >> okay, thank you.

[1:49:10] supervisor canepa, did you have

[1:49:11] questions?

[1:49:12] >> yes, I do.

[1:49:13] >> go ahead.

[1:49:14] >> michelle, thank you for the

[1:49:15] presentation.

[1:49:16] you know, I have seen -- I take

[1:49:18] highway 1 quite frequently, I take it

[1:49:20] a lot, I have seen traffic pick up

[1:49:23] quite a bit.

[1:49:24] can you speak to -- I think a lot of

[1:49:28] -- my work has been sort of focused in

[1:49:30] this area, I sat on mtc, caltrain and

[1:49:33] samtrans, so we understand it's not

[1:49:35] just a caltrain issue, when you look

[1:49:37] at the merits of the problem, it's a

[1:49:40] ridership issue, there are a lot of

[1:49:43] things, it's not just here in san

[1:49:45] mateo county, we're talking

[1:49:47] about muni.

[1:49:48] I think you may want to correct me,

[1:49:51] the estimated cost in terms of transit

[1:49:53] and not having the dollars they need

[1:49:58] is beyond 350 million dollars.

[1:50:01] so, my question to you is we know that

[1:50:04] in the bay area, 90% of people,

[1:50:10] they're not taking public transit,

[1:50:14] they're driving to work, some are, I'm

[1:50:16] not saying not everyone, the majority

[1:50:21] of the drivers, they drive their

[1:50:25] vehicles, I lie more on a practical

[1:50:27] level, what I'm concerned about, and

[1:50:29] maybe it's in my self-interest,

[1:50:31] sometimes you speak from that point of

[1:50:33] view is if we don't have caltrain

[1:50:38] operating especially in santa clara,

[1:50:41] san francisco, in san mateo counties,

[1:50:43] all of those people have to go

[1:50:47] somewhere and that somewhere is our

[1:50:51] freeways, so what we take for granted

[1:50:54] now and then maybe you could talk

[1:50:57] about what ridership is, that's a real

[1:50:59] concern for me.

[1:51:01] the other is based from a business

[1:51:04] perspective, right, so we look at

[1:51:06] employers, right, a lot of our

[1:51:08] employers in san mateo county,

[1:51:12] genentech, you know, you look at meta,

[1:51:16] west of 101, there are a lot of people

[1:51:18] who rely on this service as well, so,

[1:51:21] to me, when I look at your structural

[1:51:24] deficit, while I have a tremendous

[1:51:28] amount of empathy on serving on

[1:51:30] caltrain, I worry about our highways,

[1:51:36] especially 101, being flooded with

[1:51:38] cars.

[1:51:39] can you speak to that, have

[1:51:46] you dod modeling, have you looked into

[1:51:48] the impact of if caltrain were to spot

[1:51:50] and you were having a hard time

[1:51:53] answering supervisor mueller's

[1:51:54] question, let me answer it for you a

[1:51:56] little bit.

[1:51:57] one of the issues I think and we've

[1:51:59] talked about this and maybe you can

[1:52:00] sort of add a little bit of

[1:52:04] flavor to what he asked, we talked

[1:52:06] about the frequency, the ability to

[1:52:09] get trains going at a rhythm, a sort

[1:52:11] of mode.

[1:52:13] if it comes to express and if it comes

[1:52:16] to these giants games, that's not even

[1:52:19] on the table because if we do not

[1:52:23] receive the dollars for transit, you

[1:52:25] won't -- you're not going to have

[1:52:28] transit, you're going to have to shut

[1:52:29] down stations and my issue, supervisor

[1:52:34] mueller, with staff is we've been

[1:52:37] painting this picture and they're

[1:52:39] working towards that, everything is

[1:52:41] great.

[1:52:42] no, not everything -- everything is

[1:52:43] not great.

[1:52:45] if this doesn't work out, caltrain and

[1:52:48] I know staff has gone through

[1:52:51] different models, very responsible,

[1:52:53] caltrain could potentially close.

[1:52:58] as a board member, I firmly -- I know

[1:52:59] it's hard to believe, but I firmly

[1:53:01] believe it can happen.

[1:53:03] you will have service that will even

[1:53:05] if you take the service right now,

[1:53:09] michelle, and we dwindle it all the

[1:53:12] way down, it's a problem -- you don't

[1:53:14] have the revenue, you don't have the

[1:53:17] ridership and to me, that's a problem.

[1:53:21] I wasn't trying to be hard on you,

[1:53:24] michelle.

[1:53:25] I know you've taken this position of

[1:53:26] being balanced and providing

[1:53:29] alternatives as a responsible ceo, but

[1:53:32] the general public, they have no idea

[1:53:34] what's going to happen until we don't

[1:53:37] have that 75 million dollars and that

[1:53:40] 75 million dollars is 75 million

[1:53:44] dollars over 10 years which is 750

[1:53:47] million dollars and I know people,

[1:53:49] they love -- I love caltrain, it's my

[1:53:52] favorite transit system, don't tell

[1:53:54] april chan, I'll get in trouble, but

[1:53:56] I love the clean trains, I love

[1:53:58] how fast they move throughout the

[1:54:00] system.

[1:54:01] it would be a shame if it's not

[1:54:05] funded.

[1:54:06] so, I appreciate that and I'll give it

[1:54:08] back to the chair.

[1:54:09] >> thank you, supervisor mueller?

[1:54:11] >> yes, so I'm going to be very care

[1:54:18] ful not to talk about what's happening

[1:54:19] in november because I don't think

[1:54:20] that's appropriate in this setting or

[1:54:21] the money that might come from it, may

[1:54:24] or may not.

[1:54:25] but what I do want to say to you all

[1:54:27] is I think that as I look at this and

[1:54:30] the question that I think caltrain has

[1:54:32] to grapple with in these presentations

[1:54:34] they're giving and what they're

[1:54:36] messaging to the public is that there

[1:54:37] is no recognition that instead of

[1:54:41] canceling peak time service when the

[1:54:43] freeways would be full, if it wasn't

[1:54:45] there, or the giants service which is

[1:54:48] full, whether or not caltrain if it

[1:54:51] put this, this option would move to

[1:54:55] an hourly service instead of abon

[1:55:01] demand service and reallocated staff

[1:55:04] when there weren't people riding the

[1:55:07] train that much to the peak hours and

[1:55:09] when the people ride to the giants

[1:55:12] game, that is the fundamental thing

[1:55:14] that most taxpayers when they looked

[1:55:16] at what was being presented them at

[1:55:18] this time thinks that seems hollow.

[1:55:21] why isn't caltrain talking about

[1:55:23] reduction of service during non-peak

[1:55:24] hours and that's something that hasn't

[1:55:28] been addressed and I think has to be

[1:55:32] grappled with.

[1:55:34] >> supervisor, we'll be happy to

[1:55:36] include messaging with respect to that

[1:55:38] because obviously it's not clear.

[1:55:41] a train does not cost the same as it

[1:55:43] does in the off peak as it does in the

[1:55:47] peak period and there's no period

[1:55:50] during the day that we cover 100% of

[1:55:53] our costs.

[1:55:55] even with enhanced ridership, so I

[1:55:57] can't take an off peak train, push it

[1:55:59] into the peak period to provide more

[1:56:03] capacity there because it will cost

[1:56:06] much more than it's costing if I'm

[1:56:10] operating it during the day.

[1:56:11] >> but that's not what I'm asking you

[1:56:14] to do.

[1:56:16] I'm asking you to consider is

[1:56:17] canceling the off peak train and

[1:56:19] taking the staff hours that you say

[1:56:21] are so expensive and reallocating them

[1:56:23] to the peak period so you can keep the

[1:56:26] peak period going.

[1:56:28] I'm not asking you to add trains to

[1:56:30] peak, I'm asking you to reallocate

[1:56:32] staff time because you say it's so

[1:56:34] expensive to run the peak cars because

[1:56:37] of staff time so, there must be some

[1:56:40] cost savings by canceling non-peak

[1:56:42] empty trains and that's not being

[1:56:45] accounted for in the discussion with

[1:56:46] the public.

[1:56:51] >> supervisor, I'll take your comment

[1:56:53] as feedback.

[1:56:54] >> thank you.

[1:56:56] >> so, can I just ask a question here.

[1:57:00] supervisor mueller and supervisor

[1:57:01] canepa are on the caltrain

[1:57:06] board.

[1:57:07] supervisor speier?

[1:57:08] >> so, only supervisor

[1:57:10] canepa is on the caltrain board, do we

[1:57:13] normally have one?

[1:57:15] we've always only had one?

[1:57:16] interesting, okay.

[1:57:21] okay, just was wondering.

[1:57:23] supervisor speier, did you want the

[1:57:24] make a comment?

[1:57:25] >> yes, first of all, thank you for

[1:57:27] the presentation.

[1:57:29] I think you know my great love of

[1:57:32] caltrain, the money we go for the baby

[1:57:35] bullet, the money we got for

[1:57:38] electrification, I'm a big fan.

[1:57:40] I am not a big fan of the warfare

[1:57:44] going on between caltrain and

[1:57:50] samtrans, we spend so much time trying

[1:57:55] to deal with a reality that exists

[1:57:58] that samtrans has the right to manage

[1:58:03] the two agencies as long as it wants

[1:58:06] based on an mou but there is constant

[1:58:10] efforts to undermine that and I know

[1:58:12] you're in a rock and a hard place

[1:58:15] because you have a

[1:58:19] jpb that is trying to rest the power

[1:58:22] from samtrans but at some point,

[1:58:25] we're all public employees, we all

[1:58:27] have to work together and I think it

[1:58:31] undermines your efforts to want to get

[1:58:34] more financing when there's all this

[1:58:36] quibbling going on constantly and I

[1:58:39] find that half the time I feel I'm on

[1:58:42] the caltrain board only because the

[1:58:44] issues that samtrans is dealing with

[1:58:51] are all about governance so I'm

[1:58:53] happening that as part of all of this,

[1:58:54] we're going to find a way for everyone

[1:58:56] to work together.

[1:58:59] and for the representatives from santa

[1:59:02] clara and san francisco that feel they

[1:59:04] want to be in charge when it was

[1:59:07] samtrans that purchased the right of

[1:59:09] way, samtrans that has kept

[1:59:12] it alive, I think we should make that

[1:59:16] very clear and while your job is to

[1:59:21] make everyone happy on the caltrain

[1:59:24] board, part of it is getting some

[1:59:28] adult representation that is going to

[1:59:30] stop the power grab that goes on that

[1:59:33] is not productive.

[1:59:37] >> I'm going to jump in here and just

[1:59:41] say that as one of our county's

[1:59:47] representatives on the county

[1:59:51] transportation authority, I'm a little

[1:59:53] confused about some of what is being

[1:59:56] discussed here and I think maybe we

[2:00:01] should at the county transportation

[2:00:04] authority which does have a purview

[2:00:07] over -- and provides funding to all of

[2:00:12] the transportation operators in our

[2:00:13] county have a discussion there about

[2:00:15] all of the things that are being

[2:00:18] discussed here and try to kind of

[2:00:22] level set.

[2:00:23] I don't know that we should continue

[2:00:24] to do that here and now but I do

[2:00:29] appreciate that we have brought

[2:00:30] information here to the public on what

[2:00:36] caltrain is facing, some of the future

[2:00:41] decision points, also some of the

[2:00:43] amazing improvements to the caltrain

[2:00:46] system and I had no idea for example

[2:00:48] that there are now like private trains

[2:00:51] that people can take to -- not private

[2:00:55] trains, private cars, did I get that

[2:00:59] wrong, private cars that people can

[2:01:00] can take to the giants game?

[2:01:01] >> no, but as part of our -- as

[2:01:04] looking into other funding sources,

[2:01:05] you could buy a charter train and rent

[2:01:07] it for that, but we today provide

[2:01:11] service to many different things, yeah.

[2:01:13] >> okay, yeah.

[2:01:14] okay, so why don't we wrap this up, go

[2:01:18] ahead, supervisor canepa?

[2:01:19] >> first of all, let me just thank

[2:01:21] you, michelle and casey.

[2:01:22] I want so say this, I have four months

[2:01:25] left but it's been an honor and a

[2:01:27] privilege to serve on the caltrain

[2:01:30] board.

[2:01:31] yeah, we represent different counties

[2:01:33] but I think through our body of work

[2:01:34] and through your leadership, michelle

[2:01:37] and casey, we've shown how to get

[2:01:39] things done on a regional level,

[2:01:43] whether it's diridon, whether it's

[2:01:45] what's going on, on 4th street in san

[2:01:48] francisco, whether it's looking at

[2:01:51] various fare strategies, we have a

[2:01:53] very hardworking staff.

[2:01:54] we've done a lot, but as you know, my

[2:01:59] experience, 18 years through various

[2:02:00] boards, this board will soon feel it

[2:02:03] and I'll soon feel it in my position.

[2:02:06] when resources aren't there, that's

[2:02:08] when it gets extraordinarily

[2:02:12] challenging and so when you talk about

[2:02:15] 75 million dollars and you talk about

[2:02:17] what the operating budget is, then you

[2:02:21] talk about capital, you can try to

[2:02:24] reduce service as much as you can, you

[2:02:26] could try to identify efficiencies.

[2:02:28] I have seen so many slides at

[2:02:32] caltrain about this.

[2:02:34] it's 75 million dollars, you can't --

[2:02:39] you just can't do it, you need the

[2:02:42] revenue.

[2:02:43] and if you do cut services, spiral is

[2:02:45] clearly this, when service is cut,

[2:02:46] what happens?

[2:02:47] you're not going to have the trains,

[2:02:49] you're not going to have the people to

[2:02:53] service.

[2:02:54] there what happens is the fares are

[2:02:55] then reduced so you compound a problem

[2:02:57] by not having it, by having other

[2:03:01] issues because you don't have

[2:03:04] ridership.

[2:03:05] and so I'm proud of what we've done,

[2:03:07] yeah, the issues on governance, of

[2:03:10] course, we've had some conversations,

[2:03:13] michelle, right, about it.

[2:03:14] we've talked about it but I think what

[2:03:18] we've done is we've talked about it in

[2:03:21] a respectful way with our colleagues

[2:03:23] to figure things out and things are

[2:03:26] tracking and make no mistake about it.

[2:03:29] where caltrain resides is where

[2:03:32] samtrans resides, where shared service

[2:03:34] resides in saf and the provision and

[2:03:36] division of staff members, they sit in

[2:03:39] a beautiful building has was just

[2:03:42] built or just occupied by caltrain a

[2:03:45] couple of months ago, so I'm proud of

[2:03:47] what we've done at samtrans, I'm proud

[2:03:50] of what we're doing on caltrain and

[2:03:52] this is not easy what you're embarking

[2:03:56] on.

[2:03:57] I'm glad you started with us first and

[2:03:58] then move on to other cities but we do

[2:04:00] have a problem and it does need to be

[2:04:02] solved, so thank you, madam chair.

[2:04:04] >> okay, thank you.

[2:04:05] I believe this was a presentation

[2:04:06] only, so we do need to take public

[2:04:08] comment but no action is required.

[2:04:11] thank you for the presentation.

[2:04:13] we'll begin public comment now.

[2:04:15] >> alright, I to not have speaker

[2:04:17] cards for chambers.

[2:04:18] we'll be going to zoom for item number

[2:04:20] 5, if you would like to speak, raise

[2:04:22] your hand at this time.

[2:04:25] we have call in user, if you can

[2:04:27] identify yourself and please unmute to

[2:04:32] begin.

[2:04:34] >> hello, my name is gord and I hate

[2:04:43] --

[2:04:44] >> okay, we're going to go to the next

[2:04:46] speaker.

[2:04:47] >> that concludes public comment.

[2:05:01] >> okay, moving on to the next item.

[2:05:08] item number -- give me one second.

[2:05:12] that's what I get for looking ahead on

[2:05:15] the agenda.

[2:05:20] >> item 8.

[2:05:21] >> item 8, okay.

[2:05:25] so, yes, item number 6 and 7 are set

[2:05:29] for a specified time, so we'll be

[2:05:31] moving on to item number 8 which I'll

[2:05:35] be handing over to lee pullen to speak

[2:05:39] on in-home support services, so please

[2:05:40] go ahead.

[2:05:41] >> thank you, good morning, president

[2:05:43] corzo, members of the board and mr.

[2:05:46] callagy, nibbelin and mates, aging and

[2:05:49] disability services division of county

[2:05:51] health, before we begin our very short

[2:05:54] presentation here, congratulations on

[2:05:58] women's equality day, beautiful and

[2:06:00] moving.

[2:06:01] we are here on just a procedural

[2:06:03] matter that's required by calpers

[2:06:06] which provides retirement benefits for

[2:06:09] ihss public authority staff and nicole

[2:06:13] mckay who's our former employee --

[2:06:16] labor and employer manager with human

[2:06:17] resources has been helping us with

[2:06:19] some of these negotiations, so just a

[2:06:21] little bit of context for members the

[2:06:25] public.

[2:06:26] in-home support services, ihss, is a

[2:06:28] medi-cal program that provides in-home

[2:06:31] care support for people of any age who

[2:06:34] are experiencing disabilities or

[2:06:35] functional limitations and need the

[2:06:37] help at home so they can avoid

[2:06:41] institutional care.

[2:06:42] the there is an adjunct

[2:06:48] agency, public authority, the public

[2:06:49] authority serves to support ihss

[2:06:52] clients and care providers by

[2:06:53] maintaining a registry for folks who

[2:06:55] may need to find a care provider

[2:07:00] to administer health care benefits

[2:07:01] to our care providers and to act as

[2:07:02] the employer of record when we get to

[2:07:05] the negotiation period for wages.

[2:07:07] again, this is a procedural matter

[2:07:10] that calpers is requiring for us to

[2:07:11] present to you rather than it be on

[2:07:14] consent if you're wondering why and

[2:07:15] I'm going to turn it over the nicole

[2:07:17] who's been doing all the lifting on

[2:07:21] this.

[2:07:22] >> thank you, good morning.

[2:07:23] >> welcome.

[2:07:28] >> as lee said, we're asking you to

[2:07:30] give consideration to an additional

[2:07:33] procedural requirement and this is

[2:07:34] required by calpers who provides the

[2:07:37] retirement benefits to our 19 public

[2:07:39] authority employees.

[2:07:41] no benefits change by this action.

[2:07:43] if it seems familiar, it is.

[2:07:46] we were here before you in january

[2:07:50] with basically the exact same

[2:07:53] presentation.

[2:07:54] at that time, the it was because

[2:07:55] calpers required us to have you adopt

[2:07:58] the that you intended to make this

[2:08:01] change.

[2:08:02] at this point we're asking that you

[2:08:05] sign is paperwork to actually

[2:08:10] make the change.

[2:08:11] this only changes who provides the

[2:08:13] monetary benefits should there be a

[2:08:16] pre-retirement death.

[2:08:18] previously this group had those

[2:08:23] provided through calpers in 2021, this

[2:08:25] group moved over to social security

[2:08:30] and this pre-retirement benefit now

[2:08:32] moves to that side.

[2:08:35] so, should there be did -- this has

[2:08:37] nothing to do with their actual

[2:08:40] retirement benefits, this is only that

[2:08:44] pre-retirement death benefit.

[2:08:46] once they moved into social security,

[2:08:49] calpers began this process.

[2:08:53] we are now five years later, hopefully

[2:08:56] at this point with your approval

[2:08:58] finishing this process.

[2:09:00] at this point I'll take any questions.

[2:09:05] >> thank you so much.

[2:09:07] any questions from the board?

[2:09:10] okay.

[2:09:11] hearing no questions, I'll just say

[2:09:12] thank you so much for bringing this

[2:09:14] back to us.

[2:09:15] we know this is an important program

[2:09:19] and folks receiving these services and

[2:09:21] the support from your department

[2:09:26] definitely need it, so I appreciate

[2:09:27] this coming before us.

[2:09:30] we will move on to public comment.

[2:09:32] >> taking public comment on item

[2:09:35] number 8, I do not have speaker cards

[2:09:37] from chambers.

[2:09:38] if you would like to speak on zoom,

[2:09:39] raise your hand at this time.

[2:09:43] seeing no hands, no public comment.

[2:09:48] >> is there a motion to approve this

[2:09:49] item?

[2:09:50] >> thank you, roll call vote, please.

[2:09:52] >> supervisor speier?

[2:09:53] >> aye.

[2:09:55] >> supervisor mueller?

[2:09:56] >> yes.

[2:09:57] >> supervisor gauthier?

[2:09:58] >> yes.

[2:09:59] >> supervisor canepa?

[2:10:00] >> aye.

[2:10:01] >> president corzo?

[2:10:02] >> yes.

[2:10:03] >> motion passes unanimously.

[2:10:04] >> okay, thank you.

[2:10:06] we will now --

[2:10:07] >> thank you.

[2:10:08] >> we will move on to item number 9

[2:10:11] which is a resolution to authorize

[2:10:14] county funding and agreements for

[2:10:16] horizon recovery services, proposed

[2:10:18] recovery center in burlingame, we will

[2:10:20] also be taking item number 17, there

[2:10:23] is a presentation by county executive

[2:10:26] callagy and then we will be welcoming

[2:10:31] both dr. Jei africa and alicio from

[2:10:35] horizon.

[2:10:36] >> thank you, president corzo and

[2:10:37] members of the board.

[2:10:39] I'll make this very quick and just go

[2:10:41] through the background very quickly

[2:10:43] also as you'll all remember, the site

[2:10:46] of bay shore and mahler was the former

[2:10:51] station run by samaritan house, we had

[2:10:55] potential acquisition discussions

[2:10:57] april 7, 2026 followed by the board

[2:11:02] approval, the county purchased a

[2:11:03] building on june 12, 2026 and then a

[2:11:05] framework has been developed for

[2:11:08] transfer approved by the board of

[2:11:10] supervisors on july 2.

[2:11:12] so, there's two issues here, the first

[2:11:14] one and I'll have dr. Africa elaborate

[2:11:17] on that if you desire is the

[2:11:23] matching funds of the county of the

[2:11:25] 10%, when horizon recently went to the

[2:11:28] department of health care services for

[2:11:31] this grant, they were going for 20

[2:11:33] million dollars and the match would

[2:11:35] have been 2 million dollars of the

[2:11:38] opiate settlement which was approved

[2:11:39] by the board.

[2:11:40] they ended up receiving 25 million, so

[2:11:44] the grant we're asking for that to be

[2:11:46] approved for another 500 thousand

[2:11:47] dollars for that machining 10% of 2.5

[2:11:51] million and again that would come out

[2:11:53] of the opioid settlement fund.

[2:11:56] in regards to 17, the outline of the

[2:12:03] transaction, county would enter into a

[2:12:07] ground lease with horizon to grant

[2:12:09] immediate site control to horizon

[2:12:12] for the portion of the mahler property

[2:12:15] they would retain two building on the

[2:12:17] parking area on the site for it

[2:12:20] programs yet to be determined and

[2:12:22] the lease would continue with the

[2:12:23] county as we pursue the legal

[2:12:25] subdivision of the land, ideally we

[2:12:27] would complete that by 2027 and in that

[2:12:31] way with this ground lease, horizon

[2:12:34] could immediately commence

[2:12:35] construction of a suitable new

[2:12:37] facility on their portion during the

[2:12:39] lease term, still be working out the

[2:12:42] lease amount but whatever it was, it

[2:12:44] would be applied to the purchase price

[2:12:49] of 2.74 million for that portion of

[2:12:51] the land.

[2:12:52] the property would be restricted for

[2:12:56] use as a rehabilitation facility for

[2:12:59] up to 30 years and the reason we're

[2:13:02] here before you today is because

[2:13:04] horizon must demonstrate site control

[2:13:05] to state of california for that

[2:13:08] facility to be deemed feasible and for the

[2:13:11] grant dollars to transfer to the

[2:13:16] mahler site and certainly what we're

[2:13:18] asking is for an intention to

[2:13:19] demonstrate the board of supervisor's

[2:13:21] approval of the horizon site control

[2:13:24] and then the 10% match for the bishop

[2:13:29] grant, a couple of areas we're

[2:13:32] working through with horizon still is

[2:13:34] -- I didn't have time to finish this

[2:13:37] and present it to the board is the

[2:13:39] easement on the property the exact

[2:13:44] lease terms, indemnification clauses,

[2:13:47] insurance issues and transfer taxes

[2:13:49] and we'll be working in the near

[2:13:51] future to do that, that's why I'm

[2:13:54] asking by resolution to approve the

[2:13:56] ground lease in form of a purchase and

[2:13:58] sale agreement and delegate to me the

[2:14:01] authority to modify and amend both

[2:14:03] transaction documents as necessary and

[2:14:04] effectuate the intent of the

[2:14:06] transaction and to increase that

[2:14:11] contribution to horizon by the 500

[2:14:16] thousand to fully comport with the 10%

[2:14:19] match of 25 million dollars by

[2:14:22] contributing 2.5 million.

[2:14:23] happy to answer any questions, dr.

[2:14:25] africa is here and certainly horizon

[2:14:27] is here to answer any questions you

[2:14:29] may have.

[2:14:32] >> okay, any questions from the board?

[2:14:38] dr. Jei africa, would you like to say

[2:14:42] anything, alicio is also here from

[2:14:45] horizon.

[2:14:46] >> this is an important opportunity

[2:14:47] for us because we know there is a

[2:14:49] critical need for these kinds of

[2:14:50] programs in our community and so it

[2:14:53] was the first issue of the new amount

[2:14:57] is more of a timing issues, when we

[2:15:01] applied, horizon was costing it out

[2:15:02] and we didn't have the full amount.

[2:15:04] in the final award which came months

[2:15:07] after we submitted the application was

[2:15:08] 25 million, so basically it's the

[2:15:11] adjustment.

[2:15:12] the last portion is designating

[2:15:14] -- allow our chief and her designee

[2:15:16] to do all the negotiations as part of

[2:15:18] this process.

[2:15:19] so, thank you.

[2:15:20] >> okay.

[2:15:21] thank you.

[2:15:24] >> hello, my name is alici ork, I

[2:15:30] serve as the chief of operations.

[2:15:32] I wanted to thank the board of

[2:15:34] supervisors for their collaboration and

[2:15:35] partnership to see this project

[2:15:36] through for the needed services for

[2:15:38] your community.

[2:15:40] also with working with the executive

[2:15:42] leadership has been an honor to work

[2:15:45] in a process has in good faith and has

[2:15:49] been nothing but gracious for the work

[2:15:51] that has been put into our project.

[2:15:53] I also wanted to thank the behavioral

[2:15:56] health department for san mateo county

[2:15:59] and the collaboration to see this

[2:16:01] project come to light.

[2:16:02] we did receive from the department of

[2:16:04] health care services preliminary

[2:16:07] designation to be able to relocate

[2:16:09] into burlingame.

[2:16:10] this is exciting news, we're excited

[2:16:11] to be able to see this project move

[2:16:14] forward and we'll be able to answer

[2:16:16] any questions you might have regarding

[2:16:18] the two items.

[2:16:19] >> thank you so much.

[2:16:20] with that, hearing no questions from

[2:16:27] my colleagues, why don't we go ahead

[2:16:28] and move on to public comment.

[2:16:29] >> alright, I'll be taking public

[2:16:31] comment on item 9 and 17, I do not

[2:16:33] have speaker cards from chambers,

[2:16:35] we'll be going to zoom, raise your

[2:16:36] hand at this time.

[2:16:37] final call for item 9 and 17, I have

[2:16:43] natallia, please unmute and begin.

[2:16:47] >> good morning, supervisors, I am

[2:16:49] asking you today to immediately

[2:16:52] withdraw our county's endorsement and

[2:16:54] marcher grant to horizon recovery

[2:16:58] services.

[2:16:59] they operate a facility in san

[2:17:00] mateo and that facility has an

[2:17:04] egregious operating history.

[2:17:05] since opening in 2019, this

[2:17:07] facility has been suspended two times

[2:17:10] for severe violations of the health

[2:17:12] care code and the explicit

[2:17:13] falsification records.

[2:17:15] horizon has repeatedly jeopardized the

[2:17:18] lives and health of our most

[2:17:20] vulnerable residents and the county

[2:17:22] has repeatedly lost services for an

[2:17:23] extended period of time due to lengthy

[2:17:28] suspicions and licensed revocation

[2:17:30] proceedings.

[2:17:31] allowing this organization to receiver

[2:17:34] county back violates san mateo's

[2:17:37] policies of ethical procurement.

[2:17:41] horizon should be disqualified from

[2:17:44] receiving public contracts.

[2:17:45] please contact the grant agency and

[2:17:48] formally notify that the information

[2:17:51] provided by supervisor corzo, jei

[2:17:56] africa regarding horizon's reliability

[2:17:58] was misleading.

[2:17:59] by continuing to back horizon fully

[2:18:04] aware of the status, this board is

[2:18:07] exposing our county to severe legal

[2:18:09] liability which we cannot afford in

[2:18:11] this time of budget deficit.

[2:18:14] protect our residents, safeguard our

[2:18:16] taxpayers and shield our county from

[2:18:18] liability.

[2:18:19] I ask that you rescind the

[2:18:21] endorsement, cancel the grant,

[2:18:23] petition the state to take care of

[2:18:27] bhrs infrastructure grant and deny any

[2:18:30] future contracts to horizon recovery

[2:18:32] services, thank you.

[2:18:33] >> thank you, that concludes public

[2:18:35] comment.

[2:18:36] >> okay, bringing it back to our

[2:18:37] board for a motion.

[2:18:46] >> I move approval of this item.

[2:18:48] >> thank you, is there a second?

[2:18:53] >> okay, second by supervisor speier.

[2:18:55] >> I want to clarify that's both the

[2:18:57] items, thank you.

[2:18:59] >> I have one question.

[2:19:01] we have addressed the concerns of

[2:19:04] natallia as well, her concerns have

[2:19:06] been addressed and we're not

[2:19:08] overlooking anything.

[2:19:09] >> I would defer to dr. Africa with

[2:19:11] respect to that.

[2:19:12] >> yes, just a reminder that the state

[2:19:16] provides the licensing, so anything

[2:19:17] that -- any provider that we work with

[2:19:20] has to be licensed by the state and

[2:19:24] the state certifies them so, we have

[2:19:26] worked closely with horizon and

[2:19:27] continue to work with them in ensuring

[2:19:30] that none of the previous things have

[2:19:33] happened and we have a staff that

[2:19:36] monitors and audits all the things

[2:19:38] that are concerning to us on a regular

[2:19:43] basis.

[2:19:45] >> supervisor mueller?

[2:19:46] >> is it accurate they're on

[2:19:49] probationary status presently?

[2:19:50] >> right now they are because -- how

[2:19:54] long are they on probationary we don't

[2:20:00] know, so when they issue -- after a

[2:20:04] disciplinary action, they go visit the

[2:20:07] site in san mateo, they did announced

[2:20:10] visit and all the things that they

[2:20:14] were looking at, they sort of passed

[2:20:18] with great colors, but they still need

[2:20:21] to be on probation because I think

[2:20:23] there's a length of time they have to

[2:20:25] remain in that state.

[2:20:27] so but they did visit this year.

[2:20:32] >> I also served as the chief

[2:20:35] compliance officer for two years with

[2:20:37] the organization, so we have one year

[2:20:38] left on the probationary period.

[2:20:42] like major health care institutions

[2:20:44] like hospitals, these situations do

[2:20:46] happen, the state provides additional

[2:20:48] watchful mon oring, we've been meeting

[2:20:51] all those standards when they come to

[2:20:56] visit with zero deficiency.

[2:20:57] we make sure we assume responsibility

[2:21:02] and provide the standard of care for

[2:21:04] our clients.

[2:21:05] >> alright.

[2:21:06] what I want to know and it's a

[2:21:07] question for county counsel, so what

[2:21:10] happens worst case scenario you do --

[2:21:14] you fail to fail forward and you have

[2:21:17] another deficiency during your

[2:21:19] probationary standard and the license

[2:21:21] is revoked?

[2:21:24] >> we would be able to address that

[2:21:26] depending on what the deficiency is, I

[2:21:28] can't speak exactly what would come

[2:21:30] about but we are very watchful in

[2:21:33] monitoring those item they're

[2:21:35] specifically looking for to audit

[2:21:37] ourselves, audit consistently on a

[2:21:38] weekly basis.

[2:21:40] our executive team is performing

[2:21:42] current audits, we have our director

[2:21:44] of operations during spot check

[2:21:46] audits, we have an associate director

[2:21:48] of compliance overseeing the

[2:21:49] compliance manager that works at that

[2:21:51] facility so it's constantly being

[2:21:53] monitored.

[2:21:54] we host a tuesday call with executive

[2:21:55] leadership that I take part in to

[2:21:59] monitor those audits and make sure

[2:22:02] we're honoring the requirement from

[2:22:03] the state.

[2:22:05] we would be continuing on with

[2:22:07] building out the project depending on

[2:22:09] the state.

[2:22:10] >> supervisor mueller, it's a good

[2:22:13] question and one we've

[2:22:18] contemplated also.

[2:22:19] the fact that the state has awarded

[2:22:20] horizon a 25 million dollar contract,

[2:22:25] with the changes they've made, the

[2:22:27] site is restricted for 30 years so if

[2:22:31] they failed at some point in time, or

[2:22:33] the state disallowed them to continue

[2:22:35] or they for some reason went out of

[2:22:37] business, it would still have -- that

[2:22:39] site would still have to be used for

[2:22:44] rehabilitation purposes and we would

[2:22:45] then go look for another provider.

[2:22:46] >> alright.

[2:22:49] so, but there's no -- we're not left

[2:22:53] in a position where there's any

[2:22:56] enrichment to the provider.

[2:22:58] >> I don't believe that would be the

[2:22:59] case.

[2:23:00] they would be in violation of the

[2:23:01] terms of the grant for operating the

[2:23:04] site and as county executive was

[2:23:06] indicating, we would have remedies to

[2:23:10] exercise.

[2:23:11] >> so, I just want to jump in here

[2:23:13] real quick and say that, you know, I

[2:23:22] would challenge -- and I don't know,

[2:23:26] dr. Jei, if you can speak to the norm

[2:23:32] for this kind of licensing, this kind

[2:23:39] of treatment and how often -- like

[2:23:44] what's the norm for when issues arise

[2:23:47] in this kind of treatment facility?

[2:23:50] >> president corzo, I really respect

[2:23:55] your line of questioning but you

[2:23:57] jumped into my line of questioning.

[2:23:59] >> you can pause for one

[2:24:01] second, okay, I'm the chair of this

[2:24:06] meeting now, when you're chair, you

[2:24:07] can do it your way.

[2:24:08] >> the chair exercises the right to

[2:24:09] interpret another supervisor?

[2:24:10] >> I'm going to finish my thought,

[2:24:11] okay, thank you.

[2:24:13] so, would you mind answering that

[2:24:15] question real quick, please.

[2:24:16] >> I'm not sort of familiar but these

[2:24:18] are really difficult services

[2:24:22] obviously, people are in need, so I

[2:24:24] don't know the data, but do you know

[2:24:27] any sort of data, how often these

[2:24:29] things happen?

[2:24:30] but again the state has a rigorous

[2:24:33] compliance plan so, the mere fact they

[2:24:36] awarded horizon meant that they had

[2:24:39] faith that this organization can

[2:24:41] provide the services.

[2:24:42] it doesn't count the fact there were

[2:24:44] some issues as few years ago and from

[2:24:46] what we have seen that they have

[2:24:48] addressed it, the state came

[2:24:50] unannounced a few months ago and

[2:24:52] chased no issues, so they still will

[2:24:54] need to be on probation for a while

[2:24:56] until that other year but that is a

[2:24:58] normal practice that when your license

[2:25:01] is suspended, you have time to recover

[2:25:02] and address the issue and there's

[2:25:05] usually some time length to do that,

[2:25:06] they came to visit, my hope is they

[2:25:09] probably will come again until that

[2:25:11] next year, if they've proven they've

[2:25:14] addressed the issue, it will go

[2:25:16] forward.

[2:25:17] >> and just to kind of like take your

[2:25:19] point home a little bit more, horizon

[2:25:25] delivers a lot of programming

[2:25:26] in the entire bay area and this one

[2:25:28] site had some issues but in the grand

[2:25:30] scope of all of their programs and

[2:25:33] services, the state still finds them

[2:25:34] to be a really high quality service

[2:25:37] provider, gave them a 25 million

[2:25:40] dollar grant to run this program in

[2:25:43] our county and they are on track to

[2:25:45] get off of probation and continue to

[2:25:49] provide high quality services.

[2:25:50] supervisor mueller?

[2:25:52] >> so, first I want to say it's

[2:25:56] unfortunate that the president felt

[2:25:58] the need to interject --

[2:25:59] >> can you please just continue your

[2:26:00] questions, let's just move on, okay.

[2:26:02] >> no, I'm not going to.

[2:26:03] as a point of order --

[2:26:04] >> let's have a show then, go

[2:26:08] ahead.

[2:26:09] >> as a point of order when one

[2:26:10] supervisor is addressing and in the

[2:26:11] middle of a line of questioning, it's

[2:26:12] not important that no supervisor

[2:26:15] exercises power to that supervisor to

[2:26:17] try to shape the discussion.

[2:26:18] I really think we need as a board to

[2:26:20] go ahead and recognize that decorum.

[2:26:25] that being said, what I want to go

[2:26:26] ahead and I'm not trying to argue

[2:26:28] against this, I'm trying to make sure

[2:26:29] we have the mechanism in place should

[2:26:33] this contract -- I know you're on

[2:26:36] probationary status, should somehow

[2:26:37] your license be revoked that we have

[2:26:39] the mechanism in place to make sure

[2:26:40] the county is in good position to go

[2:26:45] ahead and claw back any grant monies

[2:26:47] or any funding that has already been

[2:26:48] granted to the grantee, so do we have

[2:26:52] any clawback provisions for any of

[2:26:56] the funding we are providing this

[2:26:58] project?

[2:26:59] >> just in candor and I would have to

[2:27:01] defer to anybody else that has any

[2:27:04] information, I don't think the state

[2:27:06] has the ability to claw has back, the

[2:27:09] money is going to be used to move the

[2:27:12] grant forward and there isn't any

[2:27:15] mechanism for that.

[2:27:20] >> and, supervisor, I think that money

[2:27:22] would go towards the building of the

[2:27:24] building, whoever came in subsequently

[2:27:25] and purchased that building would then

[2:27:27] take over that operation.

[2:27:30] so, it would still be a good

[2:27:35] investment if they -- if that other

[2:27:36] provider came in and took over the

[2:27:41] building.

[2:27:42] >> okay.

[2:27:43] >> you won't pass, supervisor speier?

[2:27:47] >> just for a point of clarification,

[2:27:49] when were you put on probation?

[2:27:53] >> the current probation was two years

[2:27:55] ago, I done have the exact time?

[2:27:57] >> two years ago, you were put on

[2:27:59] probation because there was a death at

[2:28:00] the facility, is that correct?

[2:28:04] >> the original occurrence was back in

[2:28:07] 2021.

[2:28:08] and then there was a review of

[2:28:11] information, during that time we were

[2:28:12] trying to build our compliance

[2:28:13] department out where there was a

[2:28:21] deficiency found.

[2:28:25] >> during this period of time when you

[2:28:27] applied for the grant, the state was

[2:28:28] aware of the fact that you were on

[2:28:29] probation?

[2:28:30] >> they were aware, yes.

[2:28:35] >> as part of the application?

[2:28:36] >> yes, dhcs was aware.

[2:28:37] >> and they were confident in giving

[2:28:39] you a 25 million dollar grant.

[2:28:40] >> yes.

[2:28:41] >> now, my question to you, county

[2:28:45] executive, if in fact they were to

[2:28:48] fail, they would still be the owner of

[2:28:51] that property which would mean that

[2:28:55] they would be able to receive rent

[2:29:02] from a subsequent provider of that

[2:29:04] service at that location for up to 30

[2:29:07] years, correct?

[2:29:08] >> I would defer to the county

[2:29:10] attorney, I'm not that particular with

[2:29:12] the terms of the proposed lease.

[2:29:14] I know his office has been working on

[2:29:16] that.

[2:29:17] >> thank you, I think I'm going to ask

[2:29:18] my colleague, mr. Fox, who was

[2:29:20] involved in the drafting of the lease

[2:29:22] and some of the other related

[2:29:24] documents to speak to the specific

[2:29:26] mechanisms at play here.

[2:29:29] >> the ground lease as presently

[2:29:33] drafted does provide they would have

[2:29:34] site control and they would be

[2:29:36] obligated to comply with the deed

[2:29:37] restrictions and the terms of the

[2:29:39] ground lease during the term of the

[2:29:41] ground lease so it was being operated

[2:29:44] as a rehab facility as described by

[2:29:46] the state grant.

[2:29:47] so, you are correct they would have

[2:29:50] essentially landlord position if they

[2:29:53] exercised the purchase option and they

[2:29:55] would receive the income stream from a

[2:29:57] tenant who would lease it and operate

[2:29:59] it consistent with the state grant,

[2:30:02] that's what's contemplated.

[2:30:03] >> so, if they chose to charge an

[2:30:10] exorbitant rent and we needed to make

[2:30:12] sure we provided those services in the

[2:30:15] county, we in the end would be picking

[2:30:18] up the tab?

[2:30:22] >> I am not an expert in how the

[2:30:26] funding for rehabilitation services

[2:30:27] would work under such a circumstance.

[2:30:29] I believe that it would go to an rfp --

[2:30:32] >> no, of course, but in the end, the

[2:30:35] county would be paying for the

[2:30:37] services rendered there and --

[2:30:39] >> it would not be obligated to fund a

[2:30:41] tenant who was using that particular

[2:30:43] facility.

[2:30:44] so, for example, if horizon decided to

[2:30:50] charge an exorbitant rent, the county

[2:30:51] would not be obligated to issue an rfp

[2:30:55] to a replacement provider that sought

[2:30:57] to use that particular site.

[2:30:59] that's the downward pressure on horizon

[2:31:02] charging exorbitant rent at that site.

[2:31:04] there's no obligation on our part to

[2:31:07] cite the facility there.

[2:31:08] >> do we have the ability then to

[2:31:12] require that if they were in a

[2:31:14] position where they became the

[2:31:15] landlord of a tenant who was providing

[2:31:18] these similar services, that the rent

[2:31:19] would have to be consistent with the

[2:31:24] rental rate at that point in time, is

[2:31:28] that a provision that could be put

[2:31:30] into the agreement?

[2:31:31] >> I think we could explore that.

[2:31:32] I think that we have to explore a

[2:31:33] little bit more to determine if the

[2:31:35] state would take the facility back

[2:31:38] because it's their grant money and

[2:31:39] they're required to operate for 30

[2:31:42] years at least.

[2:31:43] so, we can explore the way the grant

[2:31:45] is written.

[2:31:48] additionally, we could also explore

[2:31:52] putting in a sale provision of the

[2:31:55] land if in fact their license is

[2:32:00] revoked and they're unable to operate

[2:32:01] that they would sell the property

[2:32:04] within 90 days, we could explore that

[2:32:06] also.

[2:32:07] there's various things we can explore

[2:32:08] to ensure we address your comfort

[2:32:10] level with this.

[2:32:11] >> alright, thank you.

[2:32:14] >> so, I do believe we have a motion

[2:32:16] and a second.

[2:32:17] maybe -- but before we do a roll call

[2:32:22] vote, I want to say for a second that,

[2:32:29] you know, going back to when this

[2:32:31] first came to our board, the first

[2:32:33] vote that we took on this for the 2

[2:32:36] million dollars that was on consent,

[2:32:40] I want to publicly apologize for how

[2:32:45] this board and for how our community

[2:32:47] has treated horizon.

[2:32:48] these are difficult services to

[2:32:51] provide.

[2:32:52] we talked earlier today about overdose

[2:32:57] and drug treatment and we were very

[2:33:01] celebratory and empathetic and then we

[2:33:03] have a discussion about actually

[2:33:06] providing services and the difficulty

[2:33:09] of that and the tone is different and

[2:33:11] that's not lost on me.

[2:33:13] so, I just want to apologize for that.

[2:33:16] roll call vote.

[2:33:17] >> I would like to comment.

[2:33:18] >> okay, go ahead.

[2:33:22] >> so, again, we have to talk about

[2:33:23] decorum.

[2:33:24] first off, I think in going ahead and

[2:33:25] talking about what safeguards are

[2:33:28] within a contract should there be a

[2:33:29] default is not to undermine the

[2:33:31] services that are being provided and

[2:33:32] that was not the intent of myself, I'm

[2:33:34] sure that was mot intent of supervisor

[2:33:38] speier.

[2:33:39] to indicate that because we are

[2:33:40] talking about what is contained in the

[2:33:42] contract and the issue of default is

[2:33:44] somehow a negative disparagement is

[2:33:46] not accurate and we want -- obviously

[2:33:50] we need these programs, they're very

[2:33:53] important.

[2:33:54] we're just simply trying to make sure

[2:33:56] we protect those valuable dollars in

[2:33:58] the event there is a default so we

[2:34:00] continue to provide those services to

[2:34:02] those who need them and so I don't

[2:34:06] think there's the need for us to go

[2:34:07] ahead and set up that sort of

[2:34:13] political dialogue in the passing of

[2:34:14] this, and I think for the dough core

[2:34:17] rum and for this board to get along, I

[2:34:19] think we should avoid that.

[2:34:20] >> okay.

[2:34:21] what I will say is that I have

[2:34:28] attempted several times to pass a

[2:34:30] governance handbook for this board and

[2:34:32] I have attempted to have a discussion

[2:34:35] about that and for some reason, we as

[2:34:37] a board have been unable to do that.

[2:34:40] I would gladly do that but that is not

[2:34:42] what we are here to do right now.

[2:34:46] I was speaking for myself when I made

[2:34:49] my comments right now and I said what

[2:34:52] I said.

[2:34:53] let's do roll call, please.

[2:34:54] >> through the chair, can I say

[2:34:56] something because I brought it up and

[2:34:58] I wanted clarity, we had somebody

[2:35:01] bringing up some accusations that I

[2:35:03] felt that we needed to just address

[2:35:05] before moving on and I think we've

[2:35:06] cone that, to have a better

[2:35:08] understanding of what you're bringing

[2:35:10] and what you're providing so it's not

[2:35:12] cloudy going into this final decision,

[2:35:13] so thank you for your presentation,

[2:35:15] thank you for the clarity.

[2:35:16] I think the community deserved that as

[2:35:21] well.

[2:35:22] >> and that's totally fair.

[2:35:23] thank you.

[2:35:24] supervisor speier?

[2:35:26] >> I would hope that when we speak, we

[2:35:29] don't speak on behalf of the board if

[2:35:32] the board has not made it clear that

[2:35:37] there's an apology that is appropriate.

[2:35:41] secondly, I hope we've learned a

[2:35:43] lesson from this whole experience that

[2:35:46] putting a 2 million dollar grant on

[2:35:50] consent is not advisable, that it

[2:35:52] should be on the regular agenda so

[2:35:54] that it can be properly vetted by the

[2:35:59] entire board moving forward.

[2:36:01] >> supervisor gauthier, I apologize, I

[2:36:03] didn't mention you in my comment.

[2:36:05] >> no problem.

[2:36:06] >> it was inadvertent.

[2:36:07] >> roll call vote, please.

[2:36:09] >> supervisor speier?

[2:36:10] >> aye.

[2:36:11] >> supervisor mueller?

[2:36:12] >> yes.

[2:36:13] >> supervisor gauthier?

[2:36:14] >> yes.

[2:36:15] >> supervisor canepa?

[2:36:16] >> aye.

[2:36:17] >> president corzo?

[2:36:18] >> yes.

[2:36:19] >> motion passes unanimously for item

[2:36:23] 9 and 17.

[2:36:24] >> we will move on to item number 9

[2:36:29] and that is -- one second here.

[2:36:31] >> I think we're on 10.

[2:36:34] >> item 10 is an a resolution

[2:36:36] authorizing an agreement with baker

[2:36:38] places and adult crisis residential

[2:36:42] services and we have dr. Africa here

[2:36:44] to present this item.

[2:36:45] >> again, thank you again for having

[2:36:47] me here, but really the item for

[2:36:52] consideration is a three year

[2:36:53] agreement with baker places in an

[2:36:54] amount of 8 million 316 thousand 934

[2:36:58] to provide crisis residential servies

[2:36:59] to our county residents.

[2:37:01] if you remember last november, redwood

[2:37:05] house closed, decreased the number of

[2:37:07] adult residential beds we have, we

[2:37:09] currently have 13 through our

[2:37:14] partnership with serenity house, we

[2:37:15] obviously want to continue to have

[2:37:16] more adult residential treatment beds

[2:37:18] and baker place through an rfp

[2:37:26] understood the philosophy that we

[2:37:28] wanted.

[2:37:29] our hope is that as redwood house 2.0

[2:37:31] will be rebuilt, we will find an

[2:37:36] alternative or temporary so we can

[2:37:37] have for of these beds.

[2:37:38] the goal again is to be more

[2:37:40] [inaudible] redwood house only focused

[2:37:42] on mental health, now with sb43, we

[2:37:44] want to be able to address people who

[2:37:47] have mental health and substance use

[2:37:49] conditions.

[2:37:50] the staffing will be 24/7, they're

[2:37:53] really looking at providing beds for

[2:37:56] about 16 severely mentally ill over 18

[2:38:00] year-olds and hopefully again baker

[2:38:02] places will be able to look for a

[2:38:06] location for us and provide the

[2:38:08] temporary services as we build

[2:38:11] redwood house 2.0.

[2:38:12] is I'm happy to answer any questions.

[2:38:14] >> thank you, any questions from the

[2:38:16] board?

[2:38:17] >> yes.

[2:38:18] >> supervisor speier?

[2:38:19] >> madam president, I have one

[2:38:22] concern, we are basically giving this

[2:38:26] entity the power to find a location,

[2:38:32] sign an agreement and provide services

[2:38:36] without knowing where the location is

[2:38:39] and I don't want us to be in another

[2:38:42] situation where there's not

[2:38:43] transparency, where the community is

[2:38:44] not aware and where we have given

[2:38:48] carte blanche authority to an entity

[2:38:53] without having the understanding that

[2:38:58] they have done the due diligence with

[2:39:00] the community and with the local city,

[2:39:02] so I would like to see the agreement

[2:39:05] amended to reflect that.

[2:39:08] >> we definitely learned from the

[2:39:09] lesson before and part of the contract

[2:39:11] stipulation would be through the -- to

[2:39:14] be clear about what baker places will

[2:39:18] need in partnership with us and the

[2:39:19] community to ensure the issues that

[2:39:21] were brought up before don't happen

[2:39:23] again.

[2:39:24] we are also in the stipulation being

[2:39:25] very clear kind of like a fee for

[2:39:28] service model, what are the things

[2:39:30] we're going to pay baker places for

[2:39:32] versus just a blan ke sort of

[2:39:34] contract, so we're being very, very

[2:39:36] clear the kind of deliverables in this

[2:39:39] process, but they would not engage

[2:39:41] with us obviously if there is no

[2:39:43] contract to kind of work to --

[2:39:48] together.

[2:39:49] >> I don't think that answers my

[2:39:52] question.

[2:39:53] does the agreement have a provision

[2:39:54] where there would be a public airing

[2:39:57] of the location with the community to

[2:40:00] assess the appropriateness of the

[2:40:02] location?

[2:40:03] >> sorry if I wasn't very clear.

[2:40:04] we are going to put nit the

[2:40:07] stipulation that community processes,

[2:40:09] communication, there will be a plan

[2:40:11] that will be shared across the county

[2:40:14] about what baker places will be doing

[2:40:17] and looking at for the location, so

[2:40:19] yes, we will put that there.

[2:40:21] >> so, if they're going sign a

[2:40:23] contract with a third party for the

[2:40:26] property before that's even known it

[2:40:28] sounds like based on way this is

[2:40:29] drafted.

[2:40:30] >> we are looking around, they are

[2:40:33] the experts finding a place that meets

[2:40:36] the criteria for a crisis residential

[2:40:39] treatment facility but we can put --

[2:40:41] and maybe I can work with our county

[2:40:43] counsel to ensure that, but they will

[2:40:45] not even engage in this process

[2:40:47] without a contract.

[2:40:48] we can be very clear about expectation

[2:40:50] of that contract including a community

[2:40:54] process, engaging the community, you

[2:40:57] know, scouting the location, so we can

[2:40:59] be very clear about that.

[2:41:03] >> I have a question after you're done.

[2:41:05] >> so, are you done with your

[2:41:08] questions, supervisor speier?

[2:41:09] okay.

[2:41:10] supervisor canepa has a question.

[2:41:11] I have some questions as well.

[2:41:12] supervisor canepa?

[2:41:13] >> great, I think that's a very fair

[2:41:16] point.

[2:41:18] we've had issues sometimes in

[2:41:20] communities when it's come to land

[2:41:23] use, right, especially around what we

[2:41:25] just heard earlier.

[2:41:26] so I would like to understand, I think

[2:41:29] -- what's the plan, so my concern is

[2:41:32] -- and I know you're going to go back

[2:41:39] to staff and work with it, we want to

[2:41:40] push and move these projects forward

[2:41:41] into communities.

[2:41:42] one of the things I would suggest and

[2:41:43] I think I've talked to the county

[2:41:45] executive about this is when we go

[2:41:48] into communities and cities, you know,

[2:41:50] we should really engage with the

[2:41:53] council, the city council, city

[2:41:56] council should pass a resolution

[2:41:59] saying, look, we're in support of

[2:42:01] where this is, once we get buy-in a

[2:42:04] the council level, they're going to be

[2:42:06] doing the community report.

[2:42:07] what ends up happening is we put these

[2:42:13] facilities in communities that are

[2:42:16] not in unincorporated land and we find

[2:42:17] ourselves sort of like jello.

[2:42:19] I mean, because we're putting these

[2:42:24] facilities and there isn't any sort

[2:42:25] of input from the community.

[2:42:27] the reason I say that, it protects the

[2:42:29] county because the county now can say

[2:42:31] with these different facilities, look,

[2:42:33] we've gone to the city executive,

[2:42:36] we've gone to the city council, we've

[2:42:38] gotten buy-in.

[2:42:39] I mean, what I'm concerned about, dr.

[2:42:42] jei, is that what we're currently

[2:42:45] doing right now needs to change.

[2:42:47] we have all this money through the

[2:42:49] state, through the pass seaming of is

[2:42:52] it measure --

[2:42:54] >> bhsa.

[2:42:55] >> prop 1, we have this influx of

[2:42:58] money, but we're not -- we're really

[2:43:02] not doing that sort of outreach.

[2:43:04] I don't want to relive the mahler site

[2:43:07] again, it's complicating and confusing

[2:43:09] and I think it's the best government

[2:43:12] practice to say to the city, we've

[2:43:14] identified this site, do you support

[2:43:16] it.

[2:43:17] that's just public policy 101 and it

[2:43:19] would save us a lot of problems as we

[2:43:22] move in with all this prop 1 must be.

[2:43:23] thank you.

[2:43:24] >> so, I have a different opinion here.

[2:43:33] I don't think that it is -- it is or

[2:43:38] should be our decision to influence

[2:43:41] where these sites are located.

[2:43:48] it shouldn't be political, it should

[2:43:50] be about what is best for the people

[2:43:53] receiving these services and providers

[2:43:55] know how to make those decisions, not

[2:43:59] politicians.

[2:44:02] it shouldn't become a spectacle in a

[2:44:05] public forum in this way, it becomes

[2:44:10] really ugly.

[2:44:18] so, I do think there should be some

[2:44:22] kind of community engagement but I

[2:44:27] don't think that -- I don't think it

[2:44:32] should be like a requirement written into a

[2:44:37] contract that -- I just get concerned

[2:44:42] if we write it into this contract,

[2:44:43] then we have to write it into every

[2:44:46] single contract and that delays and

[2:44:48] creates more and more hurdles and it's

[2:44:51] completely contradictory to the

[2:44:53] intention of proposition 1 and it

[2:44:59] creates local practice that is in

[2:45:03] complete opposition to the very

[2:45:05] existence of prop 1 and what the

[2:45:07] voters intended when they passed that.

[2:45:13] what happened with horizon in san

[2:45:17] mateo is obviously not ideal either.

[2:45:21] it is election season.

[2:45:23] it was election season.

[2:45:27] it's still election season in that

[2:45:29] district right now.

[2:45:34] guess what, the two people at the

[2:45:35] center of that are on the ballot for

[2:45:37] election right now.

[2:45:47] I think it's a very bad idea for us to

[2:45:50] tread water in that direction, I think

[2:45:52] it's dangerous place to go.

[2:45:59] I think maybe we can have a more

[2:46:01] thoughtful discussion about this

[2:46:05] as a board but I would ask our

[2:46:08] board now -- we can talk more about

[2:46:10] it, I don't think this this should go

[2:46:12] into this contract right now but we

[2:46:16] should -- I think we talked about

[2:46:18] having a public process for how we as

[2:46:21] a county purchase property in

[2:46:24] incorporated areas, like let's have

[2:46:26] that discussion and I would ask county

[2:46:28] executive callagy to bring that back

[2:46:31] as an agendized item for us to have a

[2:46:33] formal ask using and creating a

[2:46:35] process that we then share with our

[2:46:42] city partners and that extends to our

[2:46:46] vendors and properties that they

[2:46:47] purchase but we should not do it now

[2:46:50] in this contract at random.

[2:46:52] so, I would propose that and just

[2:46:55] wondering how my colleagues feel about

[2:47:00] that.

[2:47:09] >> so, it's clear as mud to me, dr.

[2:47:12] jei, the process by which you're

[2:47:14] indicating there will be a

[2:47:17] stipulation, so I'm struggling with

[2:47:18] this.

[2:47:19] we're boeing to -- going to stipulate

[2:47:23] with them in the contract, that

[2:47:24] they're going to go and do community

[2:47:28] outreach process but to what end?

[2:47:34] >> so I think what I'm hearing is the

[2:47:40] concern for example what happened at

[2:47:41] horizon that we didn't engage the

[2:47:42] community, we didn't engage the city

[2:47:43] council, we didn't tell them in

[2:47:45] advance, so one of the things we're

[2:47:46] going to do which is part of the

[2:47:48] community planning process when we are

[2:47:53] building facilities that are needed, we

[2:47:55] tell people about the services, we

[2:47:57] answer their questions.

[2:48:00] we give them an overview of what's the

[2:48:05] process-- what's the process in place

[2:48:07] to keep people safe, we're going to

[2:48:08] work closely with baker places to do

[2:48:09] that.

[2:48:10] one of the things we'd like to do in

[2:48:13] their action to look for a location,

[2:48:14] we would just do that in the beginning

[2:48:16] as well, so not wait in the last

[2:48:18] moment but really in this process,

[2:48:21] already partner with the entities that

[2:48:23] are in that district or in the city.

[2:48:26] >> dr. Africa, what happens if during

[2:48:32] that process the community concerns

[2:48:33] that might be raised or the city

[2:48:34] council concerns or the city planning

[2:48:36] concerns come back with substantive

[2:48:42] issues that affect with good reason

[2:48:44] the placement of the facility?

[2:48:49] >> like any other place that we have,

[2:48:51] we try to really mitigate their

[2:48:55] concerns.

[2:48:56] so I also want to just make sure that

[2:48:58] what we're trying to do is just find a

[2:49:01] temporary location for -- as we

[2:49:03] rebuild the redwood house which is

[2:49:05] already a crisis residential in

[2:49:07] redwood city.

[2:49:09] that's the ultimate goal is that that

[2:49:13] is to be another crisis residential.

[2:49:15] right now we would be trying to engage

[2:49:18] to find a location temporarily so we

[2:49:21] increase the beds from serenity house

[2:49:24] which is 13 to another 12, so when we

[2:49:27] are scouting for the location, we

[2:49:29] would engage with the community and

[2:49:31] the city council to say this is what

[2:49:34] we're trying to do.

[2:49:35] now, there are certain stipulations

[2:49:41] for these residential facilities or

[2:49:44] these facilities that we're building

[2:49:45] that we are allowed to do with -- I

[2:49:48] don't know how I would say like not

[2:49:51] necessarily input but state

[2:49:53] regulations that allow us to build

[2:49:55] these facilities because of the state

[2:49:56] funding for example, similar to the

[2:50:01] bishop grant.

[2:50:02] >> the only avenue left to the board

[2:50:06] would be to try to mitigate whatever

[2:50:09] concerns were raised by the

[2:50:11] stakeholders through that community

[2:50:12] process, there would be no ability

[2:50:14] for the board or the county to

[2:50:19] indicate to the applicant that they

[2:50:24] cannot proceed that the location?

[2:50:25] >> I'm going to ask county counsel,

[2:50:27] john, if he can a address that.

[2:50:31] my fear is every location will not be

[2:50:34] suitable for any treatment facility

[2:50:35] because of the what is happening, so

[2:50:38] we want to really partner as best as

[2:50:40] we can to answer the community's

[2:50:44] concerns, that really is my fear, but

[2:50:46] maybe john can answer.

[2:50:47] >> before we hand it over to county

[2:50:51] counsel nibbelin, county executive

[2:50:53] callagy would like to share some

[2:50:55] thoughts.

[2:50:56] >> I think if I may interject here

[2:50:58] and just set the record straight.

[2:50:59] for every single property we purchase,

[2:51:04] we go to the city manager and to the

[2:51:05] city council.

[2:51:06] I would say that with the exception of

[2:51:13] the last purchase in foster city where

[2:51:17] we didn't go to the city council but

[2:51:20] the city manager was made aware and

[2:51:23] presumably the city council was aware.

[2:51:26] typically we sit down with the

[2:51:28] councilmembers and try to educate them.

[2:51:29] this is a process that has always gone

[2:51:32] on and has always been utilized but to

[2:51:35] the point that you're trying to

[2:51:38] make, this has become so politically

[2:51:40] charged in every community that it's

[2:51:43] easier for councils to say no and not

[2:51:47] here and I've heard is same thing

[2:51:49] many, many times, these services are

[2:51:52] warranted, great services but not just

[2:51:54] here, wrong location.

[2:51:55] so, that is what we're up against and

[2:52:00] these are vital services we're

[2:52:03] required to provide.

[2:52:04] it will have to be at the end, which

[2:52:08] I'm happen appoint to work with the

[2:52:10] board on this, this board has veto

[2:52:12] right and it has to be approved by

[2:52:14] this board no matter what the property

[2:52:17] is and hopefully this board would put

[2:52:22] you in a difficult situation as it did

[2:52:25] in millbrae and other areas but the

[2:52:27] board voted to move forward with

[2:52:30] that project in those areas, so I

[2:52:33] think that certainly that could be

[2:52:34] done in this instance too, that

[2:52:36] whatever the location is that there

[2:52:38] needs to be board approval for it to

[2:52:40] move forward.

[2:52:43] but I just wanted again to rei rate

[2:52:46] that we have always talked to the

[2:52:47] city's prior -- in fact, many cases

[2:52:49] before even this board knew that we

[2:52:51] were looking at those locations

[2:52:53] because we wanted their input before

[2:52:55] we came to the board and hen we polled

[2:52:57] the board and determined if there was

[2:53:00] support, that's the way it's always

[2:53:01] worked but obviously we need to modify

[2:53:03] it.

[2:53:04] what we're doing now is simply not

[2:53:06] working.

[2:53:07] >> and I thank you for that, county

[2:53:09] executive callagy, just to finish what

[2:53:12] I was indicating was -- and with my

[2:53:16] question, then, I don't think the

[2:53:18] board needs to self-impose on itself

[2:53:21] the inability to go ahead and exercise

[2:53:24] that discretion.

[2:53:29] it's not like burlingame was cheering

[2:53:31] when we put the facility in burlingame.

[2:53:35] I had many outreaches from folks who

[2:53:39] were unhappy it went in burlingame who

[2:53:41] I'm still interacting with on the fact

[2:53:44] that horizon is in burlingame but the

[2:53:47] decision made the decision that was

[2:53:49] the more appropriate place for the

[2:53:50] facility and the facility as of today

[2:53:52] is going forward.

[2:53:53] so I don't think -- I think the board

[2:53:55] can make the decision appropriately

[2:53:58] where to go ahead and place facilities.

[2:54:03] so, I would like to see the board

[2:54:05] retain discretion.

[2:54:11] >> supervisor canepa?

[2:54:12] >> great, thank you very much.

[2:54:14] the challenge here and I don't think

[2:54:16] this is in your area is really the

[2:54:18] planning aspect of it.

[2:54:20] mike, what I would encourage staff to

[2:54:22] do is to really work, the la quinta

[2:54:31] was very challenging.

[2:54:32] I think we're finding ourselves in a

[2:54:35] position where we're always behind the

[2:54:37] 8 ball, we need to work with our

[2:54:40] planning directors at the city level

[2:54:44] to identify with our real estate

[2:54:47] division what are the locations they

[2:54:50] think makes sense and if we get out

[2:54:51] ahead of that and we work and

[2:54:54] understand what they've identified, I

[2:54:56] think that will alleviate a lot of our

[2:54:59] issues.

[2:55:00] you know, I think land use -- I'm very

[2:55:05] -- maybe it's very old school, if you

[2:55:12] are coming to build something in san

[2:55:16] mateo, my main goal is to see what we

[2:55:17] can do to have the conversations,

[2:55:21] bring people together, say to them in

[2:55:24] honest conversations, say we worked

[2:55:25] with our planning staff, here's sites

[2:55:31] we've identified, we should be able

[2:55:33] to through deliberation and discourse,

[2:55:36] the city council should be able to

[2:55:38] say, hey, we have the best information

[2:55:41] beside us, our planning staff has

[2:55:47] identified plan alternative a, b or c,

[2:55:50] but by doing that, it gets us to a

[2:55:51] better outcome and it would alleviate

[2:55:52] a lot of the issues that are before us.

[2:55:56] I'm not convinced, mike, I'm not

[2:56:00] convinced that every city is going to

[2:56:01] say no.

[2:56:03] I'm not convinced that every city

[2:56:05] council's going to say no.

[2:56:07] what I am convinced is that if we're

[2:56:11] able to bring them along early, then

[2:56:14] we would avoid the issues we had with

[2:56:19] la quinta and mahler, so I hear

[2:56:22] everyone's comments but what we're

[2:56:24] doing now and you recognize it and

[2:56:26] you're closing, it's not working, it's

[2:56:31] tension, it's looking -- we're looking

[2:56:33] disjointed.

[2:56:34] we need to find

[2:56:38] better processes and I'm glad you've

[2:56:40] addressed that we can do better in that

[2:56:43] area, I think it's needed.

[2:56:44] >> and if I can respond, supervisor,

[2:56:46] going back to la quinta, we did

[2:56:52] expensive outreach, we had more

[2:56:53] meetings than anywhere else, we

[2:56:55] had sit-downs with the city council,

[2:56:57] we had city council meetings and yet

[2:56:59] that still fell apart, yet the board

[2:57:02] voted to move forward with that 3-2

[2:57:04] and that was the board's desire to

[2:57:06] move forward with that.

[2:57:08] so, the problem being and we've heard

[2:57:11] that before is like let's help you

[2:57:13] find a different spot.

[2:57:15] those buildings aren't for sale, it's

[2:57:17] not a good buy for the county and

[2:57:20] we're looking at trying to get the

[2:57:21] best buy for the county, there's no

[2:57:25] government zoning area in any city

[2:57:27] plan that I'm aware of that designates

[2:57:30] an area for government to be in.

[2:57:32] so, these are all the challenges when

[2:57:34] we're trying to find a place to move,

[2:57:37] we're trying to find a location that

[2:57:39] suits our needs.

[2:57:40] I'm trying to work with the city as

[2:57:46] best we can but the interests are

[2:57:47] not always congruent and that's where

[2:57:48] we find ourselves often trying to work

[2:57:52] through that incongruency.

[2:57:53] >> and I agree with you, I think the

[2:57:55] la quinta was somewhat different,

[2:58:05] we did the outreach after the site was

[2:58:08] already celebrities, what I'm

[2:58:09] suggesting -- selected, what I'm

[2:58:13] suggesting is to work with the

[2:58:15] planning department initially to

[2:58:16] identify sites, not to have a site put

[2:58:18] on a city and then say, hey, here you

[2:58:20] have to deal with it.

[2:58:21] no, what we want to do is get out

[2:58:23] ahead of it, work with the planning

[2:58:25] staff right away, I identified

[2:58:27] a site on el camino real, the

[2:58:33] city planner, they support that.

[2:58:34] to me, that would be the best approach

[2:58:36] to get out ahead of it, so thank you.

[2:58:38] >> thank you.

[2:58:40] so, --

[2:58:44] >> I have a question.

[2:58:45] >> I want to make a comment real quick

[2:58:46] and I'll hand it over to you.

[2:58:49] so, I would like to add to further

[2:58:55] county executive callagy's point that

[2:58:59] often the areas that many cities and

[2:59:04] at times residents would point to as

[2:59:06] being appropriate for some of these

[2:59:09] sites are least appropriate for the

[2:59:13] residents and future patients of these

[2:59:16] sites and sometimes they're

[2:59:18] commercial, sometimes they're closest

[2:59:20] to the highest risk areas where it's

[2:59:24] the worst place for these residents to

[2:59:29] be.

[2:59:30] often they are historically redlined

[2:59:35] communities and I won't even get into

[2:59:43] the like racial implications of that

[2:59:47] but I do think that we shouldn't

[2:59:50] ignore that context and that context is

[2:59:54] still very present today and we

[2:59:58] shouldn't be blind to it.

[3:00:03] it's still very present and if we're

[3:00:05] not going to be real about that, then

[3:00:10] -- I'll just stop there, but yeah, I

[3:00:15] know supervisor speier has a comment

[3:00:16] to make but I would like to vote on

[3:00:20] this item and then we will be

[3:00:24] convening to closed session.

[3:00:25] we will have lunch and then we'll come

[3:00:27] back, so supervisor speier?

[3:00:30] >> so, as I look at this contract, on

[3:00:34] page 12, it says contractor in

[3:00:38] collaboration with bhrs will lease or

[3:00:40] buy an appropriate facility in central

[3:00:43] location in san mateo county.

[3:00:45] prior to opening, a contractor and

[3:00:49] contractor will do a walkthrough and a

[3:00:52] contractor will have written approval

[3:00:53] from the county.

[3:00:54] I'm not prepared to vote in favor of

[3:00:56] this because I don't think it has

[3:00:58] language that reflects what we've been

[3:01:00] talking about.

[3:01:01] I either would like to see us post own

[3:01:02] this and change the language or I'm

[3:01:05] indicating that I will be a no vote.

[3:01:06] >> okay.

[3:01:07] supervisor canepa?

[3:01:12] >> when is -- through the clerk, when

[3:01:14] is our next board meeting?

[3:01:16] >> september 15.

[3:01:17] >> what I would do and I don't know if

[3:01:19] I can support it today, I understand

[3:01:21] that there's a funding component.

[3:01:23] what I would ask is we continue this

[3:01:25] item to the next meeting so that

[3:01:28] something can be brought back to us

[3:01:30] from staff that sort of addresses

[3:01:36] board members' concerns.

[3:01:37] I'm willing to support a continuance

[3:01:38] on this item.

[3:01:39] >> okay.

[3:01:47] >> I make the motion to continue the

[3:01:49] item.

[3:01:50] >> okay, let's take public comment and

[3:01:52] then we will do a roll call vote.

[3:01:54] >> okay, I do not have speaker cards

[3:01:57] for item number 10.

[3:01:58] if you would like to make a comment

[3:01:59] online, please raise your hand at this

[3:02:02] time.

[3:02:03] final call for item number 10.

[3:02:04] I do have one hand raised.

[3:02:21] leticia, please begin.

[3:02:22] >> given the fact it's a temporary

[3:02:26] location, again, so apologies, so I

[3:02:28] serve on the behavioral health

[3:02:30] commission and I just am in full

[3:02:33] support of not delaying and I feel

[3:02:38] very -- not delaying this matter

[3:02:42] further.

[3:02:44] I feel that just thinking about a

[3:02:46] quote that comes to mind is that often

[3:02:48] the price of inaction is far greater

[3:02:50] than the cost of making a mistake.

[3:02:54] however, I will not say that this is a

[3:02:56] mistake given the discussions we have

[3:02:58] been having.

[3:03:00] I don't see that the risk is high with

[3:03:06] respect to what dr. Africa has -- how

[3:03:11] he has responded to the concerns of

[3:03:13] the board and I am in full support of

[3:03:18] certainly just as a community member,

[3:03:21] and as an advocate for mental health

[3:03:24] services of which more and more we are

[3:03:27] learning that there really isn't

[3:03:29] sufficient funding for the increase in

[3:03:37] need of mental health service,

[3:03:39] substance use services in our nation

[3:03:40] and certainly in our local community

[3:03:42] so again I would caution that, you

[3:03:46] know, the delay and my support is to

[3:03:49] move forward as a community member, as

[3:03:51] a mental health advocate and as a

[3:03:55] member as I sit before you serving the

[3:03:59] board of supervisors on the behavioral

[3:04:01] health commission, thank you.

[3:04:05] >> and that concludes public comment.

[3:04:06] >> thank you, I would like to make a

[3:04:08] substitute motion to approve the item as

[3:04:11] presented.

[3:04:12] is there a second?

[3:04:27] okay, roll call vote.

[3:04:30] >> on the first motion.

[3:04:31] >> supervisor speier?

[3:04:32] >> aye.

[3:04:33] >> supervisor mueller?

[3:04:34] >> yes.

[3:04:35] >> supervisor gauthier?

[3:04:36] >> yes.

[3:04:37] >> supervisor canepa?

[3:04:38] >> yes.

[3:04:39] >> and president corzo?

[3:04:40] >> no.

[3:04:41] >> motion passes to continue this

[3:04:42] item.

[3:04:43] >> okay, we will now move on to closed

[3:04:49] session and we will reconvene after

[3:04:53] closed session.

[3:04:54] thank you.

[3:04:55] >> the time is 12:07 p.m..

[3:05:27] ( meeting adjourned to closed session).

[3:05:32] >> the time is 1:01, madam president, we

[3:05:33] can call the meeting back to order with

[3:05:35] all supervisors present.

[3:05:36] >> it is 1:01 p.m., we are going

[3:05:41] squeeze in item 11 before we start our

[3:05:46] study session which is item number 6,

[3:05:48] let's take a quick vote to amend the

[3:05:51] agenda.

[3:05:52] and we have something to report out

[3:05:54] of closed session.

[3:05:55] >> in addition to amend the order of

[3:05:57] the agenda, I wanted to report out on

[3:06:00] a unanimous 5-0 vote, the board

[3:06:06] pursuant to 54947.1 of california

[3:06:09] government code approved the

[3:06:10] initiation of three items of

[3:06:13] litigation, the action of the defendants,

[3:06:16] the respondents, the particular forum and

[3:06:19] other particulars shall once were

[3:06:21] disclosed upon any earnings upon inquiry

[3:06:25] unless to do so would jeopardize the

[3:06:29] agency's parties and would jeopardize

[3:06:33] its ability to negotiate existing

[3:06:39] settlement.

[3:06:40] >> thank you so much.

[3:06:41] I would like to -- I motion to amend

[3:06:44] the agenda to move item number 11

[3:06:48] before item number 6.

[3:06:50] there's a second by supervisor canepa,

[3:06:52] roll call vote, please.

[3:06:54] >> supervisor speier?

[3:06:55] >> aye.

[3:06:57] >> supervisor mueller?

[3:06:58] >> yes.

[3:06:59] >> supervisor gauthier?

[3:07:02] >> yes.

[3:07:05] >> supervisor canepa?

[3:07:06] >> yes.

[3:07:07] >> and president corzo?

[3:07:08] >> yes.

[3:07:09] >> considering the lateness of the

[3:07:11] day, I would like to move 19 to

[3:07:14] consent even though we've already

[3:07:16] taken up the consent agenda, can we move

[3:07:18] that back to consent, I originally

[3:07:20] lifted it from consent to

[3:07:26] regular.

[3:07:27] >> I'm sorry, the question?

[3:07:28] >> we have an item that's on the

[3:07:30] regular agenda.

[3:07:32] I would like to make a motion.

[3:07:33] >> okay.

[3:07:34] >> second.

[3:07:35] >> to accept the report.

[3:07:37] >> okay, roll call vote, please.

[3:07:39] >> supervisor speier?

[3:07:40] >> aye.

[3:07:41] >> supervisor mueller?

[3:07:42] >> yes.

[3:07:43] >> supervisor gauthier?

[3:07:44] >> yes.

[3:07:45] >> supervisor canepa?

[3:07:46] >> aye.

[3:07:47] >> president corzo?

[3:07:49] >> with that, we have moved item

[3:07:54] number 19 -- we already approved the

[3:07:56] consent, I believe we have just

[3:07:57] approved item number 19 with this vote.

[3:08:00] and we will now hear item number 11

[3:08:03] and it will be quick, so that we can

[3:08:05] move quickly on to our study session.

[3:08:09] thank you, director hodges.

[3:08:10] >> yes.

[3:08:11] good afternoon, president corzo,

[3:08:13] honorable board members, mr. Callagy,

[3:08:17] mr. Nibbelin, mr. Eli, I'm ray hodges,

[3:08:22] the department of house, and I'm

[3:08:26] pleased to be joined by doh, the

[3:08:31] affordable housing fund is the flagship

[3:08:33] program by providing capital

[3:08:36] subsidy to affordable housing

[3:08:38] throughout the county through a

[3:08:40] rigorous competitive process.

[3:08:41] the fund of competition were launched

[3:08:44] back in 2019 with boomerang funds and

[3:08:47] your board has directed a source of

[3:08:52] resources, arpa and cares act dollars

[3:08:54] and some other resources.

[3:08:56] the affordable housing fund is also

[3:08:57] the means by which our department

[3:09:00] disburses other state and local funds

[3:09:03] we compete with whenever possible.

[3:09:11] so, across our first 13 rounds, san

[3:09:14] mateo county has supported 72

[3:09:16] affordable housing developments with a

[3:09:19] total of 5122 affordable homes.

[3:09:24] 3142 are complete and occupied by low

[3:09:28] income families, seniors, public

[3:09:30] employees, veterans, farm workers,

[3:09:32] persons with disabilities and

[3:09:35] formerly unhoused persons with

[3:09:38] families.

[3:09:39] 790 are under construction with

[3:09:40] another 1190 are in predevelopment, we

[3:09:43] know those projects have commitments

[3:09:44] from us but we know our cities are

[3:09:47] shaping additional projects earlier in

[3:09:49] predevelopment right now.

[3:09:50] and this speaks to one of the primary

[3:09:52] goals of the fund which is helping the

[3:09:55] county's 21 jurisdictions preserve

[3:09:57] affordable homes and thereby helping

[3:09:59] them make meaningful progress towards

[3:10:03] rhna housing production targets in the

[3:10:05] state.

[3:10:06] given the amount of funding we have

[3:10:07] available to administer versus the

[3:10:09] demand we see in the competition every

[3:10:11] year, our team strives to stretch the

[3:10:13] county dollars as far as possible to

[3:10:14] maximize the number of affordable

[3:10:16] homes we can support in the 21

[3:10:19] jurisdictions.

[3:10:20] you can see here the county is

[3:10:21] invested a total of 364 million

[3:10:25] dollars in those 5100 affordable homes

[3:10:27] but that investment allowed us to

[3:10:30] access 3.2 billion dollars in private

[3:10:32] financing and subsidy from state,

[3:10:35] federal government and fill

[3:10:37] philanthropy to produce and preserve

[3:10:39] affordable homes but to provide jobs

[3:10:41] and construction in the property

[3:10:43] management, supportive services,

[3:10:45] financial services and more.

[3:10:46] right now to date, every dollar of

[3:10:48] measure k proceeds invested in the

[3:10:50] fund is leveraged $16 of other

[3:10:55] resources.

[3:10:57] so, in round 14, we had just over 29

[3:11:00] million dollars available to allocate,

[3:11:02] 19 million dollars in new measure a

[3:11:08] funds, 12 million dollars returned to

[3:11:09] the county through changes to

[3:11:10] previously awarded projects, 5 until

[3:11:14] mental health services, and 100

[3:11:15] thousand dollars in county impact fees.

[3:11:17] we received ten applications

[3:11:20] requesting 70 million dollars,

[3:11:21] one did not meet threshold

[3:11:23] requirements but what you have before

[3:11:25] you today in a moment here is the

[3:11:29] recommendations of doh staff and our

[3:11:31] housing and community development

[3:11:32] committee which held a public hearing

[3:11:34] on these projects last month.

[3:11:41] the 9 applications that met threshold

[3:11:43] were located in 9 communities across

[3:11:45] the county shown on the map, the 6

[3:11:48] highest scoring projects recommended for

[3:11:50] funding are located in the city's in

[3:11:52] bold on this list.

[3:11:55] there we go.

[3:11:59] south san francisco, half moon bay,

[3:12:02] san carlos, redwood city,

[3:12:05] unincorporated north fair oaks and the

[3:12:06] town of portola valley.

[3:12:10] three projects were not awarded to an

[3:12:15] award because of lower scores and

[3:12:18] limiting the subsidy, they are all

[3:12:22] good projects and we suspect they'll

[3:12:24] approach us for support in the future.

[3:12:27] so, staff and the housing and

[3:12:29] community development committee

[3:12:30] recommend awards to six projects, they

[3:12:33] sum to 459 affordable homes in five

[3:12:36] new construction rental projects and

[3:12:37] one first time ownership project.

[3:12:40] these six requested a total of over 37

[3:12:42] million in capital financing through

[3:12:45] staff's underwriting and scoring, we

[3:12:48] recommended smaller awards to two of

[3:12:49] the projects but were confident they

[3:12:51] can still move into construction with

[3:12:53] that award.

[3:12:54] none of the 9 projects requested the

[3:12:57] available mhsa funding so we are

[3:12:59] awarding over 24 million dollars today

[3:13:01] and will put that remaining image out

[3:13:03] through a more focused over

[3:13:09] -the-counter supplemental nofa.

[3:13:12] critical goals of the funds is to

[3:13:15] provide affordable homes for

[3:13:17] populations essential to your board's

[3:13:19] priorities, in this round, these six

[3:13:21] projects will provide a minimum of 24

[3:13:24] units of supportive housing for

[3:13:26] people supporting homelessness, 76

[3:13:28] homes with persons with an

[3:13:30] intellectual or development

[3:13:32] disability, 39 homes for senior farm

[3:13:35] workers, 24 for county and other

[3:13:37] public employees and 193 units for

[3:13:40] families who need two and three

[3:13:42] bedroom homes.

[3:13:43] and I'll turn here to rocio for quick

[3:13:49] details for projects.

[3:13:53] >> thank you, ray.

[3:13:57] >> welcome.

[3:14:00] >> I'm going to talk now about 555

[3:14:06] kelly, this is located in the heart of

[3:14:09] half moon bay close to health clinic,

[3:14:14] pharmacy, grocery stores, public

[3:14:16] transit and agricultural employment.

[3:14:19] it will have 40 senior farm worker

[3:14:22] units and at least two of these units

[3:14:28] will be assigned for senior farm

[3:14:31] workers experiencing homelessness.

[3:14:33] the property will have a community

[3:14:36] resource center that will provide

[3:14:38] services for the entire farm worker

[3:14:42] community.

[3:14:43] it has secured significant city and

[3:14:46] state funding including 13.3 million

[3:14:49] dollars award from the farmer program

[3:14:55] and 2.76 million from the infill

[3:14:59] infrastructure grant and a city

[3:15:01] commitment for 3.1 million dollars, 1.4

[3:15:07] million comes from arpa a award to the

[3:15:11] city.

[3:15:12] the project requested 7.3 million

[3:15:14] dollars and their recommendation is

[3:15:17] measure k award of 6.5 million.

[3:15:22] this recommendation is conditioned on

[3:15:23] the project working with the county

[3:15:26] secure operating subsidy and

[3:15:29] applying for 9% tax credits in

[3:15:31] early 2027.

[3:15:34] staff and hcd, housing and community

[3:15:38] development committee are also aware

[3:15:45] of a local initiative on the november

[3:15:49] ballot that will overturn the city's

[3:15:52] council approval of the project if

[3:15:55] passed.

[3:15:56] should the ballot initiative be

[3:15:59] successful, the housing with the

[3:16:01] developer and the city to discuss

[3:16:05] appropriate next steps that the moment.

[3:16:13] >> I'm sorry to interrupt you, I

[3:16:15] thought we could do this item really

[3:16:17] quickly before the study session but

[3:16:19] can you just tell me how much more

[3:16:21] time you think you need?

[3:16:25] >> [inaudible]

[3:16:26] >> I'm sorry, we could also just move

[3:16:29] it back to after but the study

[3:16:32] session's probably going to take like

[3:16:33] two hours.

[3:16:37] >> madam chair --

[3:16:38] >> this is very important.

[3:16:40] >> madam chair --

[3:16:41] >> you're doing a great job, rocio.

[3:16:43] >> we have the items, we reviewed

[3:16:46] them.

[3:16:47] I know we've been pretty diligent on the

[3:16:49] package.

[3:16:50] I appreciate staff moving forward in

[3:16:54] an expeditious matter, I'm ready to

[3:16:59] vote the item now and I'm willing to

[3:17:02] make the motion.

[3:17:03] >> if you have questions, I'm happy to

[3:17:04] answer them.

[3:17:05] >> I motion.

[3:17:06] >> there's a motion, a second.

[3:17:07] >> we do need to do public comment.

[3:17:09] wait, did you want to --

[3:17:11] >> I just wanted to just -- just

[3:17:15] because walnut street was covered by

[3:17:18] the daily journal, we've had extensive

[3:17:21] discussions with the city council

[3:17:22] here, midpen and resolved those issues

[3:17:25] with satisfaction to the council,

[3:17:28] now that's on the record, thank you.

[3:17:29] >> okay.

[3:17:30] thank you so much, rocio, I think this

[3:17:32] is your first time presenting.

[3:17:34] you've done really well.

[3:17:36] >> thank you.

[3:17:37] >> let's do public comment.

[3:17:38] >> alright, we're doing public comment

[3:17:40] on item 11, I do have one speaker card

[3:17:43] from chambers is holden wiseman still

[3:17:46] here?

[3:17:49] alright.

[3:17:52] >> president corzo, members of the

[3:17:56] board of supervisors, thank you very

[3:17:58] much, all I want to do is be brief and

[3:17:59] say thank you for your consideration

[3:18:00] of our project in portola valley,

[3:18:04] those units are a first for us,

[3:18:06] building on a church property so

[3:18:08] that's a unique property we're very

[3:18:10] happy to put forward in front of you

[3:18:14] today and receive funding from that.

[3:18:16] I'll pick up director hodge's invitation

[3:18:19] to come back at a lower date on other

[3:18:22] projects we'll have in the county and

[3:18:24] really appreciate your consideration

[3:18:25] today.

[3:18:26] thank you.

[3:18:27] >> alright, thank you.

[3:18:28] we'll go to zoom for public comment on

[3:18:30] item number 11, if you would like to

[3:18:31] make a comment, raise your hand at

[3:18:34] this time, final call.

[3:18:35] we do have one hand raised and that

[3:18:36] anne, please unmute and begin.

[3:18:38] >> thank you.

[3:18:39] I just wanted to say that the project

[3:18:43] at 555 kelly, it is my understanding

[3:18:44] that it has to go to voters and I

[3:18:47] don't know if that will or will not be

[3:18:49] approved, I have no idea, but I am

[3:18:52] still requesting that cypress point

[3:18:53] and moss beach be designated for

[3:18:57] senior housing and there are already

[3:18:59] places for farm workers at that site.

[3:19:01] this is something that will be

[3:19:03] completed within a year and people

[3:19:06] could be moving in at that time

[3:19:08] instead of having to wait and find out

[3:19:12] whether or not this will be approved

[3:19:13] so I just wanted to put that out

[3:19:15] there.

[3:19:16] also there are still safety problems

[3:19:19] with cypress point.

[3:19:20] there is no sidewalk for children to

[3:19:22] walk on to school, there is the dirt,

[3:19:25] it is just a dirt path with one side

[3:19:29] is a ravine, the other side is

[3:19:34] highway 1, with the lack of funds come

[3:19:36] frg the vehicle license fees, that may

[3:19:39] never get taken care of and this is a

[3:19:41] great risk for families with children.

[3:19:43] so, it is a much better site for

[3:19:45] seniors and I please ask that you

[3:19:47] consider that at this time.

[3:19:48] thank you.

[3:19:50] >> thank you.

[3:19:51] and that concludes public comment for

[3:19:54] item number 11.

[3:19:55] >> thank you, supervisor mueller?

[3:19:56] >> yes, colleagues, with respect to

[3:19:58] the 555 kelly project in half moon

[3:20:01] bay, while it is true the project is

[3:20:03] currently facing a referendum, it was

[3:20:06] passed by the city council and the

[3:20:09] current time, state of california, it

[3:20:12] is threatening litigation to the city

[3:20:15] of half moon bay for not complying.

[3:20:19] I think we should move forward to

[3:20:20] empower the city of half moon bay to

[3:20:23] become in compliance with the housing

[3:20:25] element should the referendum fail or

[3:20:28] should the referendum pass, not pass,

[3:20:35] and it fails -- sorry, referendums --

[3:20:39] the referendum needs pass for it to go

[3:20:42] forward.

[3:20:43] if it fails, and the project isn't

[3:20:45] going forward, we still need to put

[3:20:47] the city of half moon bay in the

[3:20:49] proper positioning to negotiate with

[3:20:50] the state of california over that

[3:20:53] potential lawsuit, so either way, it's

[3:20:54] very important that this funding move

[3:20:57] forward today.

[3:21:01] >> I see a lot of my -- does anyone

[3:21:06] else want the make a comment.

[3:21:07] we have a motion and a second I

[3:21:09] believe, roll call vote, please.

[3:21:11] >> supervisor speier?

[3:21:12] >> aye.

[3:21:13] >> supervisor mueller?

[3:21:14] >> yes.

[3:21:15] >> supervisor gauthier?

[3:21:16] >> yes.

[3:21:17] >> canepa?

[3:21:18] >> aye.

[3:21:19] >> president corzo?

[3:21:20] >> yes.

[3:21:21] >> motion passes unanimously.

[3:21:22] >> now we will begin item number 6,

[3:21:23] our long awaited juvenile justice

[3:21:29] study session, with that, I will hand

[3:21:30] it over to supervisor speier for

[3:21:34] welcome and purpose of the study

[3:21:38] session.

[3:21:39] >> thank you, madam president.

[3:21:42] this is as one writer said the

[3:21:47] historic study session and one that is

[3:21:52] very important and one that I think

[3:21:53] we're going to learn a lot from.

[3:21:56] at the outset, I just want to say the

[3:21:58] good news is that juvenile detainees

[3:22:01] have declined over the years.

[3:22:04] today we have 40 detainees at the youth

[3:22:06] service center down from several

[3:22:09] hundred a decade ago.

[3:22:11] we're going to hear today from

[3:22:13] probation chief john keene and from

[3:22:16] the district attorney's office, the

[3:22:18] private defender's office and a judge

[3:22:20] and from community partners providing

[3:22:22] services to the youth.

[3:22:24] and we will hear from the jjdpc chair

[3:22:32] joanna as well, I have made two

[3:22:36] visits to hillcrest, the most recent

[3:22:38] last night, where I sat with 6 or 7

[3:22:41] detainees, some under 18, some over.

[3:22:45] it was an enjoyable gathering and I

[3:22:49] learned a great deal.

[3:22:51] I think there's improvements that can

[3:22:53] be made but I also think that the

[3:22:57] conditions there have improved.

[3:22:59] these are the words of the detainees,

[3:23:01] and that the food has improved and

[3:23:03] these are the words of the detainees,

[3:23:06] so there's some good news here, there's

[3:23:08] some need to improve news and we look

[3:23:11] forward to hearing from all of you.

[3:23:13] >> thank you, supervisor speier.

[3:23:18] I will start by reiterating my lived

[3:23:27] experience and my actual first points

[3:23:31] of contact with our juvenile justice

[3:23:34] system growing up in this community.

[3:23:37] and that is through my experience

[3:23:41] being the younger sister of my brother

[3:23:50] that passed away when I was 16.

[3:23:54] I was I think under 10 when he was a

[3:23:57] teen and he was incarcerated in our

[3:24:02] juvenile hall when it was called

[3:24:04] hillcrest and was located at 21 tower

[3:24:08] road and this was at a time where our

[3:24:13] county was charging families for

[3:24:14] their youth being in detention and our

[3:24:18] family was very low income and I

[3:24:22] remember calling into a board of

[3:24:26] supervisors meeting during covid and

[3:24:28] making a comment via zoom and then I

[3:24:33] joined this board and I remember

[3:24:37] having a conversation with former

[3:24:40] supervisor slocum where he mentioned

[3:24:43] remembering, hearing a public speaker

[3:24:49] refer to a time where families were

[3:24:55] charged for their family member being

[3:24:58] incarcerated and I remember him

[3:25:02] feeling like -- he took that a little

[3:25:04] bit personally and that made me feel

[3:25:06] some empathy because I can understand

[3:25:11] now being in this role how we answer

[3:25:16] for a system where decisions were made

[3:25:20] decades prior that we had no role in

[3:25:22] but we are now in these seats making

[3:25:25] decisions about that same system and

[3:25:27] we have to deal with the impacts of

[3:25:30] decisions made years prior.

[3:25:32] and it's a great responsibility and I

[3:25:37] have since have supported other family

[3:25:39] members in going through the same

[3:25:42] system and it is through this lens

[3:25:45] that I bring a lot of care and

[3:25:47] compassion for our young people and I

[3:25:55] have also seen and gone back to the

[3:26:00] ysc, the youth services center with a

[3:26:02] cousin of mine who was incarcerated

[3:26:05] when she was invited to come back and

[3:26:08] speak to incarcerated youth from her

[3:26:14] lived experience having graduated from

[3:26:16] san jose state, from having become a

[3:26:19] mother and changed her life around,

[3:26:22] having positive healthy relations as

[3:26:24] a consult, positive, healthy

[3:26:26] relationships with staff who do

[3:26:29] workout programs with youth, now

[3:26:33] adults and have positive

[3:26:34] relationships, right.

[3:26:35] positive friendships.

[3:26:40] so, this system at times has caused

[3:26:43] harm but that's not all that it's done.

[3:26:46] a lot of youth have been rehabilitated,

[3:26:52] a lot of improvements have

[3:26:53] been made and I think that it is our

[3:26:54] duty to kind of honor all of it and

[3:26:55] respect all of it and my intention

[3:26:59] with this study session is that we all

[3:27:01] see each other, that we center the

[3:27:03] youth and that we kind of hit a reset

[3:27:09] button and start rowing in the same

[3:27:11] direction in that we value each other's

[3:27:17] work, we respect each other's work

[3:27:18] and we stop fighting each other

[3:27:19] because all that it does is waste our

[3:27:20] energy and it doesn't serve the youth.

[3:27:22] so, that is my purpose for this study

[3:27:27] session and I'm grateful that we're

[3:27:28] all here and I hope that you share

[3:27:30] that purpose with me.

[3:27:33] with that, I would like to welcome

[3:27:38] chief keene to share the state of

[3:27:42] juvenile justice system in our county.

[3:27:45] welcome, chief keene.

[3:28:13] >> I was willing to cede my time to

[3:28:18] the previous presentation if you

[3:28:20] needed those two hours but I figure we

[3:28:23] need to move forward with this.

[3:28:24] thank you for the opportunity to be

[3:28:25] here with you today, honorable board

[3:28:27] of supervisors, mr. Callagy, mr.

[3:28:30] nibbelin, mr. Eli, our public, our

[3:28:33] department, system partners who are

[3:28:35] here, our cbo's who are here to

[3:28:37] support this conversation today.

[3:28:41] so I'm very happy for the opportunity

[3:28:43] to really have a broad conversation

[3:28:46] about the state of the system, the

[3:28:47] state of where we are but also to

[3:28:51] level set and hopefully to reset some

[3:28:56] of the narratives and information

[3:28:58] that's been put out into the ether

[3:29:03] which has a detriment impact itself.

[3:29:05] the words we use matter.

[3:29:07] words have meaning.

[3:29:09] when adults intentionally mislead or

[3:29:12] misrepresent information, it hurts

[3:29:14] rehabilitation.

[3:29:15] it doesn't help it.

[3:29:17] while a much smaller population exists

[3:29:19] at the hall today, they have much more

[3:29:22] significant challenges that can be

[3:29:23] much more difficult to serve.

[3:29:25] many of you heard me say that

[3:29:28] rehabilitation presumes that people

[3:29:30] were already in a good place when we

[3:29:32] met them.

[3:29:33] the for some reason they fell off and

[3:29:35] we reached down and picked them up and

[3:29:37] dust them off and they're good go.

[3:29:39] the reality is the vast majority of the

[3:29:42] young people and the young adults in

[3:29:44] the system that we work with didn't

[3:29:45] start in a good place.

[3:29:49] they're starting in a place with deficits

[3:29:52] that exist that require almost

[3:29:57] ablation, building pathways that

[3:29:59] didn't exist before, so as we think

[3:30:01] about that, young people need those

[3:30:02] who choose to do this work and choose

[3:30:04] to be in the system to have a

[3:30:10] positive transparent behavior pattern.

[3:30:14] my goal today is to provide you with

[3:30:16] factual information about the role of

[3:30:19] function, administration, regulation

[3:30:20] of and operation of the probation

[3:30:22] department, specifically at the youth

[3:30:24] services center.

[3:30:27] policies, regulations, statutes are

[3:30:32] the foundation for which we operate,

[3:30:33] not ideology.

[3:30:34] we implement the law as it is, not how

[3:30:35] others would wish for it to be or how

[3:30:38] others would hope for it to be.

[3:30:50] this is overseen by our juvenile

[3:30:53] institution as well as our housing

[3:30:59] services.

[3:31:00] this aids youth to transition back

[3:31:02] into the community.

[3:31:06] our vision statement here is that we're

[3:31:09] going to help make youth have more

[3:31:12] positive and life-changing choices

[3:31:13] when they return to the community,

[3:31:15] that's our vision statement.

[3:31:16] that's our hope for every single young

[3:31:18] person who walks in our door

[3:31:19] regardless of how they got there.

[3:31:22] all the policies and rules are in

[3:31:29] place that has contributed for them

[3:31:31] being in our space and hopefully to a

[3:31:35] pro social mindset and mindset on life

[3:31:40] which comes with a rehabilitation of

[3:31:42] success.

[3:31:43] there are two separate groups at the

[3:31:44] facility right now, those that are in

[3:31:46] our prep program, the secondary

[3:31:49] group that's in our soarr, prep

[3:31:53] program are going to be there for a

[3:31:55] minimum of 60 days, some of them have

[3:31:58] had dispositions, some of them are

[3:32:00] there because of probation violations

[3:32:02] and our older population which is

[3:32:05] our soarr population, this is as

[3:32:08] response to senate bill 823 of youth

[3:32:13] that would have otherwise went to

[3:32:14] state facilities back to local

[3:32:16] counties, it required for the

[3:32:17] probation department and the county to

[3:32:20] develop programs that mirrored or

[3:32:22] similar to those at the state system.

[3:32:25] this was a difficult lift and one

[3:32:30] did not ask for, the way juvenile

[3:32:33] hall was built and established

[3:32:35] chased to be turned on its head's ends.

[3:32:39] we are driving a car and changing

[3:32:40] tires at the same time and looking out

[3:32:42] for potholes along the way.

[3:32:45] the population over the last two years

[3:32:47] have been consistent, you will see

[3:32:49] there's been slight spikes this year

[3:32:51] in our overall numbers, the numbers

[3:32:55] themselves have been consistent on

[3:32:57] average all the way through.

[3:33:02] so our population which is our older

[3:33:05] population, initially when we first

[3:33:08] built program back when senate bill

[3:33:11] 823 passed, the thought is we might

[3:33:13] get five or six youth that would be in

[3:33:15] this category being supported.

[3:33:16] the reason we thought that is because

[3:33:18] we were low users of djj, it has been

[3:33:25] always to keep young people here at

[3:33:27] home, to send folks to djj and

[3:33:31] not to overly place things removing

[3:33:33] them from home.

[3:33:34] we have always tried to find ways to

[3:33:36] support youth here.

[3:33:37] this board and prior iterations of the

[3:33:39] board have been supportive of that

[3:33:41] process, however it serve as detriment

[3:33:43] when our funding streams were putting

[3:33:45] together.

[3:33:46] unlike many other counties who had

[3:33:48] long historical trends of sending

[3:33:50] people to djj, our money that we

[3:33:52] received as a result of that was

[3:33:53] impacted by that.

[3:33:54] we received a lot less than

[3:33:56] surrounding counties around us.

[3:34:03] so, one of the main things that's

[3:34:07] important today, to talk about a

[3:34:08] system as it stands, how we were put

[3:34:10] together, what our goals are and the

[3:34:12] way in which we do our business.

[3:34:17] detention reform really started in the

[3:34:22] late 90's, the goal was to look at

[3:34:24] large numbers of youth that were

[3:34:25] inside facilities and understanding

[3:34:26] it was a good chance a large

[3:34:27] percentage of those young people did

[3:34:28] not need to be in custodial settings

[3:34:30] to receive services.

[3:34:32] san mateo county like many of the

[3:34:33] other bay counties started to look at

[3:34:35] what could they do differently to

[3:34:37] provide a level of support to

[3:34:39] young people.

[3:34:40] this started in this county around

[3:34:43] 2005, the county put together

[3:34:46] stakeholder meetings and groups and

[3:34:47] looked at who could provide the best

[3:34:49] level of services for young people at

[3:34:51] the same time building a new system

[3:34:53] that would really be more focused on

[3:34:56] putting more young people at home and

[3:34:58] less people in detention where

[3:35:01] possible.

[3:35:02] on the screen you see several of the

[3:35:03] things that are hallmarks of san mateo

[3:35:06] county's focus on only having young

[3:35:08] people in detention as a last resort.

[3:35:10] you will see the building of the ysc,

[3:35:13] you mentioned the old juvenile hall at

[3:35:19] tower road, that was an antiquated

[3:35:21] system and building that had been in

[3:35:23] place for a long time.

[3:35:25] this looked at how can we put together

[3:35:27] services that are not only best for

[3:35:30] young people but helped their

[3:35:32] families, the concept of youth

[3:35:33] services building is around bringing

[3:35:35] things together under one roof so

[3:35:37] you're not sending families all over

[3:35:38] the state and county to receive

[3:35:40] support.

[3:35:41] that was the first step in that

[3:35:44] process.

[3:35:45] the juvenile hall turns 20 this year

[3:35:48] in september, so it is a well lived

[3:35:50] building that's been around for a

[3:35:51] while.

[3:35:52] at the time it was one of the newer

[3:35:54] models of what people had hoped for

[3:35:57] detention in terms of the changes.

[3:35:58] this county also had an assessment

[3:36:00] center process where it evaluated

[3:36:03] young people to determine who needed

[3:36:04] to be in the facility and who didn't.

[3:36:06] I'm proud of the fact when I came in

[3:36:09] 2013, we focused on creating diversion

[3:36:13] programs.

[3:36:14] myself, educator, police chiefs and

[3:36:15] other folks in the community spent a

[3:36:17] week in georgetown to learn how to

[3:36:19] build a diversion program that was

[3:36:21] going to be multisystemic and

[3:36:24] multifunctional both outside of the

[3:36:25] system as well as in, as we created a

[3:36:29] cohort of divisions, many of which

[3:36:32] still today we are fortunate to fund a

[3:36:35] deputy probation officer who works

[3:36:36] out of the city of san mateo

[3:36:40] who provides diversion service outside in

[3:36:41] the community.

[3:36:43] also diversion is now offered in

[3:36:45] school settings, there was changes in

[3:36:47] discipline practices which also helped

[3:36:49] to reduce the number of young

[3:36:50] people in the facility.

[3:36:53] we married the emission criteria

[3:36:56] overtime.

[3:36:57] in the past when young people would

[3:36:58] make it to the hall for a variety of

[3:37:00] low level offences and sometimes

[3:37:01] parents who decided they want to

[3:37:04] teach their young person a lesson and

[3:37:06] drop them off for a weekend, we became

[3:37:08] strict in the criteria in turnover who

[3:37:10] could come into facility.

[3:37:12] focusing on those offenses that really

[3:37:14] were issues of public safety.

[3:37:17] and I have to say also too that this

[3:37:21] particular cause has oftentimes caused

[3:37:23] challenges between us and some of our

[3:37:26] local police department friends

[3:37:27] because they are frustrated by the

[3:37:28] fact we don't take more young people

[3:37:31] in, that we are very focused on only

[3:37:33] taking in the young people that

[3:37:36] we are statutorily mandated to so it

[3:37:42] does create fiction, my superintendent

[3:37:45] takes calls trying to negotiate how

[3:37:47] they can drop more people off and

[3:37:49] lastly we talked about the utilization

[3:37:51] of state funds for preventative

[3:37:53] activities, this county has

[3:37:55] always invested tens of millions of

[3:37:56] dollars in prevention.

[3:37:57] in many of your districts, you will

[3:37:59] find local programs at school based

[3:38:02] levels or community levels that are

[3:38:06] funded that are focused that young

[3:38:11] people don't become part of the system.

[3:38:13] you'll hear me today to refer to a lot

[3:38:16] of online materials you can look up,

[3:38:18] we have comprehensive reporters in the

[3:38:23] juvenile coordinating council report,

[3:38:26] those will outline the utilization of

[3:38:28] tens of millions of dollars focused in

[3:38:30] community settings and its schools and

[3:38:32] others to focus on ensuring that young

[3:38:34] people do not come into the system

[3:38:38] unnecessarily.

[3:38:40] and if you wouldn't mind, give me a

[3:38:46] second, I want to play this video, in

[3:38:48] terms of how the process works and

[3:38:50] coming into the facility.

[3:38:56] ( playing video ).

[3:38:57] >> what is the book, admission and

[3:38:58] classification process at the ysc, the

[3:39:01] san mateo county probation department

[3:39:03] has a legal and standardized process

[3:39:06] for receiving youth into the juvenile

[3:39:10] facility.

[3:39:11] the admittance of youth into the

[3:39:12] facility is conducted in a respectful,

[3:39:15] humane, trauma-sensitive and

[3:39:17] culturally cognizant manner.

[3:39:19] to start, the arresting agency is

[3:39:21] responsible for transporting the minor

[3:39:24] to the youth services center and

[3:39:25] provides the booking staff with the

[3:39:28] necessary arrest documents.

[3:39:31] this documentation is essential for

[3:39:33] smooth transfer process and ensures

[3:39:36] compliance with legal requirements.

[3:39:38] prior to admitting the youth,

[3:39:41] institution staff reviews the

[3:39:43] admissions paperwork and determine if

[3:39:44] the youth should be admitted.

[3:39:46] youth under the age of 12 years will

[3:39:49] not be accepted into custody unless

[3:39:52] there are allegations of murder or

[3:39:58] certain sexual assaults.

[3:39:59] upon admission, youth are read their

[3:40:00] miranda rights, admission staff

[3:40:02] inventories to youth's personal

[3:40:03] belongings and issues with basic

[3:40:08] clothing, bedding, hygiene items and

[3:40:10] offer food upon arrival.

[3:40:14] parents or guardians are informed via

[3:40:19] phone, they are allowed two calls

[3:40:22] within admittance unless physically

[3:40:27] impossible.

[3:40:28] housing classifications are determined

[3:40:30] by age, maturity, sophistication,

[3:40:32] emotional stability, program needs,

[3:40:35] public safety considerations,

[3:40:38] medical/mental health conversations,

[3:40:39] gender and gender identity of the

[3:40:41] youth.

[3:40:42] factors such as compatibility with

[3:40:45] other youth, size, non-association

[3:40:47] orders, protective custody orders

[3:40:50] and gang affiliation may also

[3:40:52] influence housing assignments.

[3:40:59] ( video complete ).

[3:41:03] >> I think it's important to emphasize

[3:41:06] that there's an actual legal process

[3:41:08] by which how we take young people in,

[3:41:10] so it's not this kind of willie nilly

[3:41:14] approach, I heard people say probation

[3:41:17] incarcerates kids, that's not our

[3:41:19] function, we don't go to the street

[3:41:21] and scoop kids off the street.

[3:41:23] there has to be probable cause for

[3:41:25] police departments to bring young

[3:41:26] people into the facility.

[3:41:27] what you have in front of you and I

[3:41:29] know it's small print so I would

[3:41:32] quickly say it really outlines the

[3:41:34] legal requirements for certain

[3:41:35] populations that have to be admitted

[3:41:36] into the hall so those individual

[3:41:41] situations that involve welfare and

[3:41:43] institutions code section 707b which

[3:41:46] are considered serious and violent

[3:41:48] felonies, those have to be taken into

[3:41:50] the facility but the police department

[3:41:54] on the street still have a mandate of

[3:41:56] having to make sure we have sufficient

[3:41:57] probable cause to bring beam into the

[3:41:59] space.

[3:42:00] we have our age restrictions, 12

[3:42:04] year-olds are -- we do not want to

[3:42:06] have in our space, it has to be

[3:42:08] specific situations.

[3:42:09] those warrants often times are run

[3:42:12] away warrant from other counties, we

[3:42:14] are mandated by law that if there is a

[3:42:16] run away warrant that's out there, we

[3:42:18] have to find a space for that young

[3:42:22] person, so that's one of the reason.

[3:42:24] 14 years or older who can be taken

[3:42:28] into custody, the use of a firearm,

[3:42:29] the commission of a felony, there's a

[3:42:32] laundry list of those offenses that

[3:42:35] fall under 707b.

[3:42:51] the current census of the population

[3:42:52] we currently have now, everyone in our

[3:42:55] facility now has at least one felony

[3:42:58] in addition to whatever additional

[3:43:01] misdemeanor charges they have.

[3:43:03] all the felonies are consistent with

[3:43:09] the state require, people both in and

[3:43:10] under that, there may be young people

[3:43:11] who have additional misdemeanor

[3:43:12] charges on top of the felonies but a

[3:43:13] a person is not going to be booked

[3:43:16] into our facility on a misdemeanor

[3:43:19] unless it involves serious violence or

[3:43:22] injury.

[3:43:23] if you look at our two yearbook

[3:43:24] information in front of you, we have

[3:43:26] focused on really ensuring that the

[3:43:28] young people we can get home, we send

[3:43:30] home back to their families, we have

[3:43:32] other alternatives like electronic

[3:43:35] monitoring of home, home detention

[3:43:37] where they're able to stay in their

[3:43:38] families and stay in those spaces.

[3:43:40] if you look at the total number of

[3:43:45] population compared to the number of

[3:43:47] bookings we have per year, you can see

[3:43:49] once again we keep smaller numbers of

[3:43:53] young people that make their way into

[3:43:56] our space.

[3:43:57] now the next part of this presentation

[3:43:59] is really one where it's important to

[3:44:02] once again level set the environment

[3:44:04] at the facility.

[3:44:06] it's not to villainize young people,

[3:44:09] it's not to try to attempt to moderate

[3:44:12] the staff and say they're doing work

[3:44:14] that others couldn't do or that

[3:44:17] somehow it affords them special

[3:44:18] treatment, it is to make it an

[3:44:22] affirmative statement about what

[3:44:23] exactly is versus what folks say is

[3:44:27] not.

[3:44:28] this environmental data is focused on

[3:44:29] some important issues, one, we look

[3:44:31] and see the staff injuries over the

[3:44:34] last five years, the attacks directly

[3:44:38] at staff over the last five years,

[3:44:40] youth on youth attacks, contraband

[3:44:43] incidents and our computer use

[3:44:46] violations, we'll talk about that because

[3:44:47] there's been a lot of conversation

[3:44:49] around us removing people's access to

[3:44:52] computers for no good reason, so the

[3:44:55] things I point out here is that when

[3:44:57] you see some of these attacks, these

[3:45:00] are targeted directly towards our

[3:45:02] staff.

[3:45:03] these are things where young people

[3:45:06] have unfortunately been courage --

[3:45:09] encouraged to say the people there are

[3:45:12] bad people or they don't have to

[3:45:17] listen to them, if they have something

[3:45:18] to say to you, they don't like, we'll

[3:45:19] take care of it.

[3:45:20] and those type of commentary has

[3:45:22] helped to create an environment which

[3:45:24] is less safe for our employees.

[3:45:33] I have never presented this

[3:45:34] information to the board before.

[3:45:36] we work with it and keep it

[3:45:37] moving because that's our task our

[3:45:40] incredible staff has taken on.

[3:45:41] the reality is that when it's

[3:45:43] referenced in a way to suggest that

[3:45:45] either we are bad people and

[3:45:47] potentially trying to hurt children or

[3:45:49] don't care about the kids we work

[3:45:51] with, our folks come and work in

[3:45:55] incredibly difficult situations and

[3:45:56] the last point I'll make about this is

[3:45:58] that if you look at the number of our

[3:46:02] population recently compared to what

[3:46:03] it was five years prior to covid where

[3:46:06] we were arching over the 100, 120

[3:46:09] youth, we averaged the same number of

[3:46:11] attacks and injuries to employees

[3:46:13] when we had four times, four times the

[3:46:16] number of young people in our facility.

[3:46:18] and this is data that is workers comp

[3:46:26] data that is easily attainable for the

[3:46:27] board, we have to keep those by state

[3:46:29] mandate.

[3:46:32] contraband.

[3:46:33] these are some of the items we found

[3:46:35] in our facility as we do searches.

[3:46:39] I have a binder that staff full of

[3:46:50] copies, instruments, sharpening

[3:46:52] screws, sharpened nails, shards of

[3:46:57] glass, marijuana, vape pens and

[3:47:02] medication that's been cheated to

[3:47:03] utilize to provide to other youth in

[3:47:05] the facility.

[3:47:06] so, when we talk about creating an

[3:47:09] environment that is rehabilitative and

[3:47:12] safe, these are some of the realities

[3:47:13] of what that looks like.

[3:47:15] so, once again, when there is this

[3:47:18] impression that we're only serving low

[3:47:21] level youth that are -- don't need to

[3:47:24] be in the facility and they're there

[3:47:27] because of some evil intention of the

[3:47:30] detention department or law

[3:47:32] enforcement, the facts don't measure

[3:47:36] up.

[3:47:39] there's also ban lot of conversation

[3:47:41] that somehow we work without any

[3:47:43] regulation and that no one's in

[3:47:45] control of us and we don't have any

[3:47:48] support from the state to provide

[3:47:52] structure, guidelines, training or any

[3:47:53] of that to our staff.

[3:47:55] the reality is our staff when they

[3:47:57] start their careers, they take almost

[3:48:01] 300 hours of training to initiate,

[3:48:03] additional hours within the

[3:48:07] facility and mandated training hours

[3:48:08] that have to be done every single

[3:48:10] year.

[3:48:11] we also have state regulatory

[3:48:14] oversight.

[3:48:15] the board of state and community

[3:48:17] corrections is california's

[3:48:20] independent agency overseeing adult

[3:48:24] and overall systems, they provide

[3:48:26] inspection in public safety grants,

[3:48:27] that is who we have to answer to, to

[3:48:30] ensure our facility can run.

[3:48:32] we also have support from advisory

[3:48:35] committees like the oycr and they

[3:48:44] have professionally trained

[3:48:47] inspectors, when issues arise, they

[3:48:49] work with counties to make sure

[3:48:52] corrective action plans are created.

[3:49:01] title 15 encompasses everything from

[3:49:03] staffing, program and abuse,

[3:49:05] allegations, food standards, education

[3:49:06] standards and medical standards just

[3:49:08] to say a few as well as title 24 which

[3:49:10] is the building standards which

[3:49:13] outline everything in the facility in

[3:49:15] terms of how it's put together.

[3:49:18] everything for how thick the bed can

[3:49:20] be, how far off the floor it can be,

[3:49:24] ada concerns, the way the building was

[3:49:26] built initially was built this this

[3:49:28] way under funding that was responsible

[3:49:30] for it.

[3:49:31] in the 13 years I've been your chief

[3:49:34] probation officer, we have failed

[3:49:36] inspections zero times.

[3:49:37] we have had correction actions zero

[3:49:42] times.

[3:49:43] we have certainly had our experiences

[3:49:44] during that time where the state has

[3:49:48] said, we'd like to see you do this

[3:49:50] better or we have advice on how you

[3:49:53] could do wetter training or we have

[3:49:55] advice on how you can write your

[3:49:58] policies different so they can be clear

[3:50:04] >> when we're here, we have never

[3:50:05] failed an inspection.

[3:50:06] cop pis of these inspects, ten years

[3:50:07] worth can be found on the website for

[3:50:09] people who want to go read.

[3:50:11] >> chief, I'm going to give you a

[3:50:13] time check.

[3:50:14] we're going to give you ten more

[3:50:17] minutes.

[3:50:18] >> I'll just say respectfully in

[3:50:19] protest, people who have taken shots

[3:50:22] for me have had far more time than

[3:50:24] that.

[3:50:25] >> that's true, I'm going to give

[3:50:26] you more time.

[3:50:27] >> thank you, ma'am, I appreciate it.

[3:50:37] thank you.

[3:50:38] next is the conversation around prea,

[3:50:41] I'll speed up here a little bit.

[3:50:42] there's a lot of conversation why

[3:50:44] we're not compliant with prea.

[3:50:48] prea is the focus on eradicating

[3:50:52] prison and detainee rape of all times

[3:50:54] and institutions around the country.

[3:50:55] the department of justice has a very

[3:50:57] distinct set of categories in which

[3:50:59] they determine whether you are

[3:51:01] compliant with the goals of prea and

[3:51:04] the legislation associated thereto.

[3:51:06] in front of you, you have what are the

[3:51:09] general themes that encompass the

[3:51:11] entire legislation itself.

[3:51:13] most notably at the top is zero

[3:51:15] tolerance policy for abuse of any kind

[3:51:17] along with additional issues around

[3:51:21] training, medical, reporting and

[3:51:22] investigation to say a few.

[3:51:26] the reality is that the probation

[3:51:28] department has been and is

[3:51:30] substantially aligned with the federal

[3:51:33] standards of prea, all the theme that

[3:51:34] is are in prea are covered by our

[3:51:37] current department prea policy.

[3:51:38] you can find this prea policy on our

[3:51:42] website, it is the prison rape elimination

[3:51:44] act tab and under that, you can tab it

[3:51:47] and hate our policy, it has

[3:51:49] instructions for parents who want to

[3:51:52] reach out to express concerns, we have

[3:51:57] an additional interactive launch item

[3:51:59] for services for individuals and

[3:52:02] employees who may need support in this

[3:52:04] area and it also shows at the end of

[3:52:06] the day, we are abiding by all the

[3:52:09] regulations that title 15 has.

[3:52:13] in my research around this because

[3:52:15] it's been a concerning issue

[3:52:16] concerning a lot of the allegations

[3:52:19] that have surrounded our county and

[3:52:21] our area, what I found was startling

[3:52:25] which is no one in the state of

[3:52:26] california is in compliance with

[3:52:29] prea.

[3:52:30] compliance requires two primary

[3:52:32] additional issues which is one, an

[3:52:34] auditor who comes in and provides

[3:52:36] auditing of your policies and

[3:52:39] standards, that's one we don't have,

[3:52:40] so when I say we're not in compliance,

[3:52:42] it's not that I don't care about

[3:52:46] keeping people safe, as I started off,

[3:52:48] words matter.

[3:52:49] we're not in compliance because we

[3:52:50] don't have auditors.

[3:52:52] a quick check of the auditor page on

[3:52:55] there for auditor search, there is not

[3:52:58] a certified auditor within 200 miles

[3:53:00] of san mateo county.

[3:53:01] I searched.

[3:53:04] the only two that are listed on the

[3:53:07] website are two folks whose audits --

[3:53:13] the auditor certificates had expired

[3:53:14] three years ago, the only current

[3:53:16] auditors that exist are in la county

[3:53:18] that I could find at this point.

[3:53:20] the second part for state

[3:53:22] certification is what's called a

[3:53:25] governor certification where the state

[3:53:28] has to certify that it is going to

[3:53:30] 100% certify that every area that

[3:53:33] complied and will follow the rules of

[3:53:35] prea.

[3:53:36] we haven't done that and we haven't

[3:53:37] done that since this stated in 2014 in

[3:53:39] terms of compliance checks.

[3:53:41] what exists is what's called an

[3:53:43] insurance declaration.

[3:53:46] it simply says we're going to do our

[3:53:48] best to try to make sure most people

[3:53:51] in the state have the elements of prea

[3:53:55] in their functioning.

[3:53:57] however, a strict letter of the law,

[3:53:59] unless you have everything, you have

[3:54:03] nothing.

[3:54:05] our meals and diet, we have partners

[3:54:09] who will talk about the diet and

[3:54:10] meals, the individuals who do the

[3:54:12] work, we're pleased to work the

[3:54:17] sheriff's office and correctional in

[3:54:18] relation to this, they are supported by

[3:54:21] dietitians, health professionals and

[3:54:22] individualized for each youth's needs,

[3:54:25] they're aligned with usda standards

[3:54:28] for meals and we have 30 plus youth

[3:54:30] in the facility, our staff or their

[3:54:33] staff are managing over 80 separate

[3:54:36] diets for young people.

[3:54:39] that includes everything from medical needs,

[3:54:41] religious concerns as well as calorie

[3:54:45] intake.

[3:54:46] youth services center is almost 20

[3:54:47] years old, it is a lived in building

[3:54:50] but these pictures are taken within

[3:54:52] the last recent months and it is not

[3:54:54] necessarily a space where I would say

[3:54:56] it's death trap or horrible place for

[3:54:58] people to be.

[3:55:00] we recognize the importance of

[3:55:04] bringing arts into our space, in

[3:55:06] collaboration with the sheriff's

[3:55:07] activity league and working with our

[3:55:13] youth, they have painted murals

[3:55:14] throughout the facility that this have

[3:55:15] participated in to do certain things.

[3:55:17] the arts commission has been a great

[3:55:19] partner in this and I thank

[3:55:22] supervisor canepa who made that

[3:55:23] connection between us and them.

[3:55:25] we've been able to do that work and

[3:55:28] have positive outcomes and create

[3:55:30] unique opportunities for young people

[3:55:31] in this space.

[3:55:32] what you see in front of you is

[3:55:33] another space that the young people

[3:55:36] participate in which is a multisensory

[3:55:41] de-escalation room, they need a quiet

[3:55:43] space to go to.

[3:55:44] this was a thing where everybody

[3:55:48] participated, even myself did participate

[3:55:50] in that space because we wanted

[3:55:52] young people to see that we valued

[3:55:54] them and cared about their long term

[3:55:59] goals.

[3:56:01] here's our community mural outside

[3:56:03] which once again is a demonstration of

[3:56:05] our commitment to the arts because we

[3:56:07] recognize art is an important part of

[3:56:09] rehabilitation.

[3:56:10] the it was really about providing the

[3:56:11] young people with something as an

[3:56:13] inspiration to help focus them on the

[3:56:15] time that's to come because we really

[3:56:22] stressed to them that you are not your

[3:56:23] current environment, your current

[3:56:24] situation, there's more positive

[3:56:27] things to come.

[3:56:28] we do family nights, we have

[3:56:30] graduation activities and we're proud

[3:56:32] of the activities of our school

[3:56:33] programs and the work they have done,

[3:56:35] the young people that have graduated

[3:56:37] from high school with us, the young

[3:56:40] people that have graduated high school

[3:56:41] with us, it is a -- college with us,

[3:56:47] we have movies, we have everything we

[3:56:50] do to provide alternatives and we do

[3:56:54] include additional food on top of what

[3:56:57] is provided by correctional health in

[3:57:01] those activities.

[3:57:02] often time there's concern about

[3:57:04] programs in our space.

[3:57:05] we have a robust program system.

[3:57:08] honestly there's not enough hours in

[3:57:10] the day for all the programs that

[3:57:11] are here.

[3:57:12] this board has been generous over the

[3:57:14] years your support of programming in

[3:57:15] our space, just a few months ago, you

[3:57:17] approved a historic amount of

[3:57:19] programming for the institutions.

[3:57:22] and that program -- those programs

[3:57:24] are also both internal programs and as

[3:57:26] well as programs that are out in the

[3:57:28] community.

[3:57:29] these are just some of the programs

[3:57:30] that most recently you approved.

[3:57:33] high light core, we heard from a young

[3:57:36] man yesterday who specifically called

[3:57:37] out core as a program that was

[3:57:39] important to him, that was teaching

[3:57:41] him how to engage in positive

[3:57:44] relationships and connecting with

[3:57:45] people and supervisor corzo, that was

[3:57:47] your brain child, thank you for that.

[3:57:49] and this are just reminders with other

[3:57:52] contracts you also recently provided

[3:57:55] to provide services in our space.

[3:58:02] technology, we have done our best over

[3:58:05] the years to try to provide technology

[3:58:08] opportunities for young people and it

[3:58:10] is morphed over the years, when I

[3:58:11] first started in 2013, we had a

[3:58:13] couple of computers facing the wall

[3:58:15] and that was it and the early stages

[3:58:18] of our project change which I'll talk

[3:58:23] about, we had kids westbound off one

[3:58:26] or two desk top monitors.

[3:58:28] we have committed to providing

[3:58:29] opportunities for young people, there

[3:58:31] are desk tops that every young person

[3:58:34] whether it's in school has access to.

[3:58:35] we work closely with the school

[3:58:37] department, they have their own it

[3:58:38] department, we have ours, they work in

[3:58:40] collaboration to do that work, there

[3:58:42] are desk tops accessible for them to

[3:58:46] utilize, the laptops are for the young

[3:58:48] people in college, they have their

[3:58:50] individualized laptops to help them do

[3:58:51] the work they're doing.

[3:58:53] we are proud of our orijin tablets,

[3:58:57] that gives them educational

[3:59:01] opportunities but they also have the

[3:59:03] ability to make phone calls and

[3:59:05] video calls to their families from

[3:59:06] this tablet.

[3:59:07] one of the most interesting things

[3:59:10] last night we discovered, the young

[3:59:12] people were disappointed that the

[3:59:14] movies don't roll around fast enough,

[3:59:16] they don't have access to r-rated

[3:59:20] movies, they were frustrated they

[3:59:22] were watching the same movies over

[3:59:24] again but the tablets have created a

[3:59:27] new way for the young people to look

[3:59:28] at things as well as get additional

[3:59:31] certifications, education, as well as

[3:59:34] therapeutic opportunities around drug

[3:59:35] and alcohol consideration.

[3:59:39] we've upgraded our wi-fi access

[3:59:41] points throughout the facility to

[3:59:42] provide a better stability who have

[3:59:44] access to these systems.

[3:59:46] they love their games so we commit to

[3:59:49] purchasing play station and x-box

[3:59:52] games for youth to be able to utilize.

[3:59:53] a lot of that, the systems themselves

[3:59:56] were donated by outside people,

[3:59:58] we've helped support and

[4:00:00] maintain those to acquiring additional

[4:00:03] services and coming soon, we're going

[4:00:06] to have our vr equipment, our provider

[4:00:10] will be providing additional support

[4:00:12] with virtual reality to help with the

[4:00:15] teaching of skills for cte, they're

[4:00:16] going to do a lot of incredible things

[4:00:20] through a virtual space.

[4:00:22] this is just some of orijin's

[4:00:26] education and communication

[4:00:27] technology, we see all of the

[4:00:29] different things youth have been

[4:00:30] accessing in the last 12 month period.

[4:00:33] during that time, we've made over 46

[4:00:35] thousand calls from the tablet space,

[4:00:38] 19 thousand of those calls have been

[4:00:39] connected and on average the calluses

[4:00:42] are going about 15 minutes a piece.

[4:00:45] here are some of the learning

[4:00:47] materials that are inside orijin and

[4:00:51] some great opportunities for young

[4:00:52] people the gain additional support on

[4:00:55] top of all of the services you have

[4:00:58] graciously approved.

[4:01:01] the technology -- the ysc is a 20 year

[4:01:04] old build, we have worked to upgrade

[4:01:05] that material.

[4:01:08] we use a senso program which monitors

[4:01:14] our computer use.

[4:01:15] it allows us to know when our young

[4:01:16] people have violated our computer use

[4:01:18] policy, they've gone to a prohibited

[4:01:23] site that are sexual or violent in

[4:01:25] nature, they have contacted victims

[4:01:27] that they have victimized, they are

[4:01:31] gang banging on social media, other

[4:01:34] things that are prohibited

[4:01:42] activities.

[4:01:43] they find ways around our system all

[4:01:45] the time, we have had to reboot and

[4:01:47] reassess and figure out other ways to

[4:01:51] assess that.

[4:01:53] supporting a safe environment, we've

[4:01:56] instituted body cams in our stashing,

[4:01:58] that body cam program, we're having

[4:02:03] some technology issues, it's getting

[4:02:04] warm on our staff's chest while

[4:02:07] they're wearing them, we're having

[4:02:09] those batteries expense so we don't

[4:02:11] have workers comp issues with that

[4:02:12] and they'll be redeploy that.

[4:02:15] we've upgraded our live scan machine

[4:02:18] which is our fingerprinting machine,

[4:02:19] we added a mobile version of that,

[4:02:21] sometimes it can be difficult and

[4:02:23] challenging for young people having

[4:02:25] negative experiences at entry so, we

[4:02:27] can go to them and it makes that part

[4:02:29] of it a little safer and less

[4:02:31] stressful for when they're getting

[4:02:35] checked in.

[4:02:39] we have contraband pictures that are

[4:02:41] shown, we've come across more activities

[4:02:42] and more things so we've needed

[4:02:44] access to that.

[4:02:45] and also the body scab, body scan, I

[4:02:47] want to talk to you quickly because

[4:02:49] it's an important addition to our

[4:02:51] space.

[4:02:52] we recognize that searching youth,

[4:02:53] strip searching youth is something

[4:02:54] people are not in favor of, however,

[4:02:57] the law allows for it in very specific

[4:03:00] circumstances, we only do it in those

[4:03:02] specific circumstances.

[4:03:04] we have written materials that show

[4:03:05] when we do it.

[4:03:08] our preferred way of doing things is

[4:03:10] to utilize the body scanner, it's a

[4:03:16] less invasive process, the machine is

[4:03:18] more evasive than physically getting

[4:03:21] nude because it goes very much in

[4:03:23] terms of knowing what you have if on

[4:03:24] your person, but it's safer way to do

[4:03:27] things, less intrusive way for young

[4:03:29] people and we should understand the

[4:03:33] public's concern about what was being

[4:03:35] characterized as an illegal strip

[4:03:37] search, it is not, it is a strip

[4:03:40] search folks didn't care for but we

[4:03:42] had a valid reason for doing so, it

[4:03:43] was a health and safety reason that

[4:03:45] would have impacted the entire

[4:03:50] facility.

[4:03:51] additional upgrades to wi-fi, upgrades

[4:03:53] to our cctv, this is an important part

[4:03:56] of -- for us as we try to have an

[4:03:58] environment that is safe and is void

[4:04:01] of any type of illegal sexual activity

[4:04:05] or negative behavior so we have

[4:04:07] upgraded our systems to ensure that

[4:04:09] not only can we keep recordings but

[4:04:11] it's backed fup we lose power and we

[4:04:13] have access to things for long term.

[4:04:15] lastly we've put in under the door

[4:04:18] cameras which are important and I

[4:04:19] should say back to the cameras,

[4:04:22] they're not in personal spaces,

[4:04:24] they're not in the showers, they're

[4:04:26] not the restrooms or not in places to

[4:04:28] in any way negatively impact young

[4:04:30] people and invade their policy.

[4:04:32] they're in public spaces but they're

[4:04:34] outside of buildings where any time

[4:04:36] you move in our facility, we can see

[4:04:40] you, so the reason why those cameras

[4:04:43] exist are to support that.

[4:04:47] lastly under the door cameras are

[4:04:48] important because some of our young

[4:04:53] people have covered their doors so we

[4:04:55] can't see what's going on inside.

[4:04:57] when we have to go inside, they have

[4:05:03] jimmy rigged the floors where our

[4:05:05] staff have slipped and fallen trying

[4:05:06] to go in.

[4:05:07] this is important to allow us

[4:05:08] opportunity to see what's happening in

[4:05:09] the rooms for safety reasons.

[4:05:11] project change is one of the programs

[4:05:13] we are most proud of.

[4:05:14] it is an award winning program, san

[4:05:19] mateo county is the model, the very

[4:05:22] first one for this type of educational

[4:05:25] programs and college spaces around the

[4:05:28] state.

[4:05:29] in 2013, I utilized my own funds to

[4:05:31] help support the creation of the this

[4:05:33] program.

[4:05:34] along with the work our project change

[4:05:36] partners worked for, they were

[4:05:38] instrumental in really working with us

[4:05:40] and not losing faith early on, so we

[4:05:43] had really good incremental growth to

[4:05:45] where we are today where we have

[4:05:47] multiple young people that are

[4:05:49] graduating college, getting multiple

[4:05:52] degrees while they're in custody

[4:05:53] with us and going on to hopefully four

[4:05:55] year colleges.

[4:05:56] we also have a cte program that we are

[4:05:58] proud of.

[4:06:00] this new program is california a-g

[4:06:05] approved in terms of the credits, so

[4:06:07] those 15 credits are young people need

[4:06:09] to consider college here in

[4:06:10] california, it's focused on

[4:06:15] getting mastery training in college,

[4:06:18] so stem related careers, trades

[4:06:21] careers, culinary, engineering, design

[4:06:23] and transportation, these are

[4:06:24] important for our young people who may

[4:06:25] not all be focused on this idea of

[4:06:28] going to college.

[4:06:31] where's probation's data?

[4:06:32] another comment that we don't have any

[4:06:34] data, where's our data at.

[4:06:35] our data can be found in several

[4:06:38] websites across the net.

[4:06:40] our probation department website has a

[4:06:42] a data dashboard that has our

[4:06:44] information, our local action plan is

[4:06:46] there, our local action plan is the

[4:06:48] plan that helps determine how we

[4:06:50] utilize services, how the money is

[4:06:51] spent and how we demonstrate our value

[4:06:54] system as a county in terms of what

[4:06:56] our investments are in and/or

[4:06:59] evaluations of our contract to

[4:07:00] providers, so these evaluations are

[4:07:03] done by an outside entity, a third

[4:07:05] party entity who helps support us in

[4:07:08] those annual reports.

[4:07:10] as I mentioned earlier, the bscc,

[4:07:14] there's juvenile hall population date

[4:07:16] that that's based on offense level and

[4:07:18] adjudication as well as those reports

[4:07:21] I mentioned earlier that we have done

[4:07:22] in terms of our inspection.

[4:07:26] two probation officers in california,

[4:07:28] we have a public facing dashboard there

[4:07:32] that has all access to all of our

[4:07:35] information.

[4:07:36] the office of youth and community

[4:07:40] restoration, ofcr, has information

[4:07:42] about our treatment facility and the

[4:07:45] program thereto, we have to submit an

[4:07:47] annual plan to utilize and

[4:07:49] operationalize the funds that come

[4:07:52] from it and san mateo county open data

[4:07:54] is where you can find information

[4:07:56] about our budgets, how we spend our

[4:07:58] money and things of that nature.

[4:08:01] lastly in the space to come, we have a

[4:08:02] few things on the horizon, one, we're

[4:08:05] going to be working collaboratively with

[4:08:09] john fong at child welfare to create a

[4:08:13] program where we can assist them with

[4:08:16] housing funds and funds that they can

[4:08:18] utilize that help support those next

[4:08:20] steps when they leave.

[4:08:21] that program is going to be working

[4:08:24] through the guaranteed income program

[4:08:25] they run so we're going to find a way

[4:08:29] to operationalize money transfer

[4:08:30] between the two if necessary to ensure

[4:08:32] those young people who are qualified

[4:08:35] for it will get access to it.

[4:08:37] secondly, we hope to work with the

[4:08:39] board as well as procurement to look

[4:08:42] at potentially some type of modified

[4:08:45] procurement process for some the

[4:08:46] services we need at the facility.

[4:08:49] that process is difficult and causes a

[4:08:51] lot of consternation with the

[4:08:54] population with the community and is

[4:08:56] creating tension and stress in terms

[4:08:58] of how we operationalize court orders

[4:09:00] to I think there's a need for us to

[4:09:02] look at that.

[4:09:03] also I'm proud to say that we

[4:09:06] acknowledge that we could do better

[4:09:11] with our prea phone system, so I'm in

[4:09:14] decisions with jn fong to see if we

[4:09:17] can utilize an outside service for the

[4:09:21] 800 number, it is monitored by our

[4:09:23] staff and we think we can did do

[4:09:26] better with that.

[4:09:27] we will be working to see if have 24

[4:09:30] hour services so we're trying to see

[4:09:32] if there's legal ways we can

[4:09:35] operationalize it through that process.

[4:09:37] lastly, we are going to be doing a 20

[4:09:40] year acknowledgment of the building

[4:09:43] itself, the beginning of the opening

[4:09:46] of the juvenile hall, what I'm going

[4:09:48] to propose to do because a lot of what

[4:09:49] has been said in the public is because

[4:09:52] the public has not had a chance to see

[4:09:54] our hall.

[4:09:55] because of the way things are done,

[4:09:57] it's just difficult for people to

[4:09:59] randomly come and show up and be

[4:10:00] walked around.

[4:10:01] so I'm proposing that we do an open

[4:10:04] house that is commensurate with the 20

[4:10:06] year opening of the facility.

[4:10:08] that way we can invite the public to

[4:10:10] come in and see the facility, go

[4:10:13] through the process, go through those

[4:10:14] things so they can see themselves.

[4:10:17] the reality is I know no young person

[4:10:19] wants to be in the facility.

[4:10:21] we don't kid ourselves into thinking

[4:10:23] that's the case, but I'm proud of the

[4:10:25] work we do, the way we do it and how

[4:10:28] we approach trying to be thought

[4:10:30] partners and advocates for youth as

[4:10:32] we are.

[4:10:34] our advocacy looks different from

[4:10:35] others but we are advocates

[4:10:38] nonetheless.

[4:10:39] I will cede the rest of my time.

[4:10:40] I have one last slide I hope to get

[4:10:43] back to later, I can cede my time.

[4:10:45] we are fortunate to have partners

[4:10:47] here today that help us do the work

[4:10:49] and we have some of our partner from

[4:10:51] correctional health and behavioral

[4:10:53] health, I'm not sure who wants to go

[4:10:55] first.

[4:10:56] dr. Africa is going to come up and

[4:10:59] present.

[4:11:00] >> thank you, chief keene, and I'll

[4:11:01] just briefly say that I love the idea

[4:11:04] of an open house and one of my

[4:11:09] favorite murals wasn't pictured, it's

[4:11:11] one with a lot of humming birds and

[4:11:14] it's one of the newest ones and it's

[4:11:18] beautiful.

[4:11:19] so, I welcome dr. Africa and then I

[4:11:20] think we have michael and hector and

[4:11:27] derga next.

[4:11:28] >> good afternoon, again, board of

[4:11:30] supervisor, I'm here with my

[4:11:34] colleague, mike who, is the director

[4:11:36] of health services, we'll take a few

[4:11:38] minutes to talk about behavioral

[4:11:44] health services at the ysc and also

[4:11:45] correctional health services.

[4:11:46] so, before I go, I want to just

[4:11:49] acknowledge that picture that you see

[4:11:51] there is the adjacent land of the

[4:11:55] phoenix garden which I will be talking

[4:11:56] about in a little bit.

[4:11:58] we have been really grateful to have

[4:12:01] the opportunity to provide support to

[4:12:03] young people.

[4:12:04] I will talk about the mental health

[4:12:08] services, substance use services, in

[4:12:10] terms of our clients, as chief keene

[4:12:13] said, the clients over the years have

[4:12:16] decreased.

[4:12:17] the young people in custody, so you

[4:12:18] can see on the top left, we're about

[4:12:22] 2018 to 2019, we were seeing

[4:12:26] unduplicated about over 300 youth and

[4:12:28] now we're probably seeing half of that.

[4:12:31] we have 9 staff that provide a variety

[4:12:35] of services for youth who are in

[4:12:38] custody.

[4:12:39] we have therapists, we have case

[4:12:40] managers, we have psychologists,

[4:12:43] psychiatrists just in case they need

[4:12:46] medication support and also peer and

[4:12:50] is family partners who have lived

[4:12:52] experience navigating the system.

[4:12:53] in the bottom part, I wanted to give

[4:12:55] you a sense of how engaged we are with

[4:13:00] the young people, so in the data, we

[4:13:02] divided it into three sections.

[4:13:05] one, we called it the general

[4:13:08] population, so we don't know how long

[4:13:10] the young people will be there but we

[4:13:14] average about 29 days of service, if they

[4:13:18] leave earlier, we won't have that much

[4:13:20] time.

[4:13:21] in terms of community based services,

[4:13:24] when a young person leaves the ysc, we

[4:13:27] still are able to provide community

[4:13:29] based services to them because

[4:13:32] sometimes they need additional support

[4:13:34] as they transition back to the

[4:13:35] community.

[4:13:36] and in the third kinds of supports

[4:13:39] that we have is we connect a therapist

[4:13:44] individually case by case with a youth

[4:13:47] in custody, also when they leave, so

[4:13:50] chief keene talked about the soarr

[4:13:52] program, in our engagement with that

[4:13:55] young person until about 25 is up to

[4:13:57] about one year.

[4:13:59] so, again, our efforts is to engage

[4:14:01] them, continue working with them so

[4:14:03] that they continue to succeed being in

[4:14:06] the community or exceed in their

[4:14:10] rehabilitation.

[4:14:11] so, again, our services are anchored

[4:14:13] in trauma or trauma informed and

[4:14:17] culturally responsive services, not

[4:14:18] just in terms of language but really

[4:14:20] understanding the cultures and the

[4:14:23] environment that our young people have

[4:14:24] grown up with.

[4:14:26] we use evidence based practices,

[4:14:29] cognitive behavioral therapy helps

[4:14:31] change people's perceptions and their

[4:14:36] thinking.

[4:14:37] behavioral therapy giving them a sense

[4:14:38] of self-regulation.

[4:14:39] many of these people have a lot of

[4:14:41] trauma and have a lot of chaos in

[4:14:43] their lives, so we try very hard.

[4:14:45] while we are working with them to try

[4:14:47] to give them sort of a sense of skills

[4:14:51] and opportunity to think about the

[4:14:53] things that they have experienced.

[4:15:00] our work needs to be coordinated with

[4:15:02] many efforts, you see our colleagues

[4:15:05] from probation but also our community

[4:15:09] partners.

[4:15:10] I have to say once a probation staff

[4:15:13] refers entry to behavioral health is a

[4:15:15] referral from our custody or probation

[4:15:18] staff, so once our po's refer a young

[4:15:22] person, we do an intake, we do a

[4:15:25] screening, we try to understand

[4:15:26] what their perspective is, what their

[4:15:28] experience is, what their need is and

[4:15:31] based from that, we spend time kind of

[4:15:33] linking them to ss services.

[4:15:36] we provide individual therapy, group

[4:15:39] therapy, family therapy, we invite

[4:15:41] their parents or their caregivers to

[4:15:43] participate in some of the sessions

[4:15:45] because we know their caregivers are

[4:15:47] also part of their recovery.

[4:15:49] we do a lot of care coordination, we

[4:15:52] provide 24/7 crisis support.

[4:15:55] we -- when it's needed, we provide

[4:15:58] medication management and then also in

[4:16:01] certain cases when it's needed, we do

[4:16:05] psychological assessments, you know,

[4:16:07] if they need higher level of service,

[4:16:10] if we try to understand their thinking

[4:16:13] or their personality, we do cognitive

[4:16:16] testing or personality destining in

[4:16:18] augmentation through the therapy they

[4:16:21] receive.

[4:16:25] last one, the phoenix garden is the

[4:16:27] six acre land adjacent to ysc, instead

[4:16:30] of seeing that as being connected to

[4:16:33] nature, we use it as an opportunity to

[4:16:35] provide healing and connection with

[4:16:36] the community with young people who

[4:16:38] are attached to the ysc to kind of be

[4:16:41] around nature and talk to other

[4:16:43] folks, other community members so as

[4:16:45] part of their entry to community and

[4:16:47] I'll just say that's one of the

[4:16:49] features that one of our people love.

[4:16:52] many of them are not connected to

[4:16:54] nature.

[4:16:55] many of them don't understand food

[4:16:57] production or bee keeping or

[4:17:01] horticulture and hopefully that can

[4:17:03] change or impact their lives, not

[4:17:05] focusing on their crime or being in

[4:17:07] custody but out in the community and

[4:17:08] again one of the things we are working

[4:17:11] that's new due to calaim is real will

[4:17:14] you a much stronger relationship in

[4:17:18] helping young people in custody and

[4:17:19] then when they go out as they

[4:17:22] transition back to the community, they

[4:17:24] link them to appropriate services.

[4:17:26] so, we are also doing that in the

[4:17:29] adult side at mcguire and the jail,

[4:17:32] we're trying to do that more in

[4:17:34] probation, so again, we really operate

[4:17:37] in partnership with chief keene and

[4:17:39] his staff and are grateful to provide

[4:17:43] these services for young people to

[4:17:45] heal and continued on to their

[4:17:48] recovery.

[4:17:49] now I'm going to turn it over to mike

[4:17:51] to talk about medical services.

[4:17:52] >> welcome.

[4:17:56] >> good afternoon, president corzo,

[4:17:59] board of supervisors, community

[4:18:00] members, my name cease mick del

[4:18:03] rosario, the director for mental --

[4:18:10] medical health services.

[4:18:11] medical care start from the time the

[4:18:13] youth enters our facility, we address

[4:18:16] whatever medical conditions or health

[4:18:18] care needs they have and initial

[4:18:21] screening is done as soon as they come

[4:18:23] in.

[4:18:24] our partners in probation will do an

[4:18:25] initial screening and then our

[4:18:28] registered nurses will do a complete

[4:18:30] medical screening as soon as possible.

[4:18:33] during that time, acute and chronic

[4:18:36] illnesses are identified, we look at

[4:18:39] for any communicable diseases, if they

[4:18:41] have substance abuse history, you

[4:18:42] know, we want to make sure those are a

[4:18:44] I dressed early on and we do an

[4:18:48] initial mental health assessment, we

[4:18:49] do 96 hours of coming into our

[4:18:52] facility, health and screening, that

[4:18:56] will include doing vital signs,

[4:18:59] pregnancy testing and visual and

[4:19:03] hearing sense.

[4:19:05] the probation staff, I just want to

[4:19:07] highlight, really placed an important

[4:19:09] role in early identification of a

[4:19:11] patient's mental health condition,

[4:19:13] they will alert if they see any

[4:19:15] abnormal conditions.

[4:19:16] all youth are seen by our nurse

[4:19:19] practitioner for a wellness exam

[4:19:21] within one week of arrival.

[4:19:24] our calls are conducted daily by

[4:19:26] registered nurses for any medical

[4:19:29] requests the youth might request.

[4:19:31] if any after hours support is needed,

[4:19:33] we utilize the san mateo medical

[4:19:36] center for consultation but for any

[4:19:42] medical condition, our nurse

[4:19:44] practitioners will address any acute

[4:19:48] or chronic conditions.

[4:19:51] specialty care services are offered

[4:19:52] for all our youth, if they require

[4:19:56] more specialized services, we utilize

[4:19:58] the san mateo medical center specialty

[4:20:02] clinics for any in-person visits or

[4:20:08] telehealth consultations, and if they

[4:20:12] need any surrounding hospitals, the if

[4:20:13] they need those services, we will

[4:20:15] refer them to those places.

[4:20:16] if a youth comes in and they need to

[4:20:19] have their braces managed, an

[4:20:23] orthodontic referral will also be made.

[4:20:27] our optometrist services, we will

[4:20:30] refer them to san mateo medical

[4:20:32] center, once we have the prescription

[4:20:34] for the eyeglasses, they will

[4:20:38] purchase eyeglasses for the youth.

[4:20:40] we also offer laboratory and radiology

[4:20:43] services.

[4:20:44] we do pregnancy testing early on,

[4:20:46] universal testing is offered to all

[4:20:48] our youth which we screen for

[4:20:55] chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis.

[4:20:56] when our youth are seen from the

[4:20:59] providers, they are ordered routine

[4:21:01] blood work.

[4:21:02] when we do chest x-rays or imaging,

[4:21:06] those are done at our san mateo

[4:21:11] medical care facilities.

[4:21:13] dental services are offered to all our

[4:21:14] youth, as soon as they come in, they

[4:21:17] are scheduled to see a dentist within

[4:21:20] 30 days.

[4:21:21] if they happen to stay six months,

[4:21:24] they are automatically scheduled for a

[4:21:26] a follow-up exam in 6 months.

[4:21:29] routine dental care provided routine

[4:21:34] dental care, if they need a root

[4:21:39] canal, we'd provide that as well.

[4:21:41] for those like a wisdom tooth, we have

[4:21:44] an oral surgeon that can come in to

[4:21:47] our facility, they will take care of

[4:21:49] those type of complicated extractions.

[4:21:51] for more urgent visitors, we will

[4:21:54] defer them to our county partner and

[4:21:56] is county health for dental services.

[4:22:00] as our overall goal of providing

[4:22:03] comprehensive health care to our youth,

[4:22:07] we provide a lot of health edge kaix,

[4:22:10] we will do topics like drugs and

[4:22:15] alcohol, contraception, dental health,

[4:22:18] health care, any other topics the

[4:22:19] youth finds interesting or wants to

[4:22:20] know more ab.

[4:22:23] annual flu vaccinations are offered,

[4:22:24] usually around the fall season right

[4:22:27] before the flu season starts, we offer

[4:22:30] flu vaccines to all our kids.

[4:22:32] immunize ize -- immunizations, our

[4:22:36] team will look at patient records and

[4:22:38] identify if they're missing any

[4:22:42] immunizations, if they're behind on any of

[4:22:44] their shots, our team will provide

[4:22:45] that as well.

[4:22:47] our dietitian will be on-site to

[4:22:49] manage any special dietary needs, if

[4:22:52] they require medical diets, we

[4:22:54] can have a dietitian that can consult

[4:22:56] with them, lose weight, gain weight,

[4:22:58] we have a specialized program for that.

[4:23:04] and discharge planning is important to

[4:23:05] us to make sure we can transition the

[4:23:07] youth into the community so we provide

[4:23:11] the discharge medications upon 30 days

[4:23:13] of medication upon release and provide

[4:23:15] them with the prescription or we call

[4:23:18] into the pharmacy to make sure they

[4:23:21] never run out of meads until they get

[4:23:23] a chance to go to their doctors after

[4:23:27] release.

[4:23:29] that's part of the health we provided

[4:23:32] to them will be provided to the

[4:23:34] community.

[4:23:35] thank you.

[4:23:38] >> thank you, we have I believe folks

[4:23:46] from nutrition and our dietitian up

[4:23:50] next and as well as our sheriff's

[4:23:51] office.

[4:23:52] >> good afternoon, board members and

[4:23:53] the public.

[4:23:54] >> we also have a lieutenant as well,

[4:23:56] I don't know who wants to start here.

[4:23:59] go ahead, however you want to do it.

[4:24:00] >> good afternoon, captain ben hand

[4:24:03] with the sheriff's office, I'm the

[4:24:06] facility commander --

[4:24:07] >> captain?

[4:24:08] >> I'm the facility commander for the

[4:24:11] maple street correctional center where

[4:24:12] we are have our food services through

[4:24:15] the sheriff's office, I'm going allow

[4:24:17] -- this is durga namburu and this is

[4:24:26] hector soto to share how [inaudible]

[4:24:31] and denise chu is here from

[4:24:36] [inaudible]

[4:24:37] >> and is that a lieutenant behind you

[4:24:38] as well.

[4:24:39] I knew there was a lieutenant

[4:24:41] somewhere.

[4:24:42] >> greetings.

[4:24:43] >> go ahead, durga,.

[4:24:44] >> good afternoon, everyone.

[4:24:47] so, we're going to cover --

[4:24:50] >> and also after this, we're going to

[4:24:52] do a time check, I know we have a

[4:24:55] judge waiting and I would love if

[4:24:57] someone can connect with her and make

[4:24:59] sure -- my gosh, I'm sorry, okay, you

[4:25:03] see, you're smart, that's why you're

[4:25:06] the judge, okay.

[4:25:07] >> okay.

[4:25:10] we're going to cover all food services

[4:25:16] for youth center and what youth are

[4:25:21] served each day.

[4:25:24] and we control food safety and our

[4:25:27] services are just evolved.

[4:25:29] coming to our operations and daily

[4:25:32] delivery for the meals.

[4:25:34] san mateo county service office for

[4:25:37] the nutrition services provide meals

[4:25:39] for ysc to contract with probation

[4:25:43] department.

[4:25:44] meals are planned and prepared through

[4:25:47] food service operations, all the meals

[4:25:49] are transported to the ysc with all

[4:25:52] the food safety procedures.

[4:25:53] I'm sorry.

[4:25:55] it's going too fast I believe, yeah.

[4:26:00] meals are delivered to appropriate

[4:26:03] housing units for all three meal

[4:26:05] services, breakfast, lunch and dinner.

[4:26:06] our focus is to consistently deliver

[4:26:11] safe and nutritious, balanced and

[4:26:13] appealing meals to a timely manner.

[4:26:15] our staff understands serving the

[4:26:17] youth in a secure setting requires a

[4:26:20] high level of responsibility and

[4:26:22] attention to detail.

[4:26:24] the sheriff's office recently secured

[4:26:26] purchasing contracts with established

[4:26:29] food service vendors who provides all

[4:26:32] the school nutrition programs

[4:26:34] requirements that includes u.s. Foods

[4:26:37] and sysco.

[4:26:38] we regularly check quality of meals

[4:26:41] and our meals always do the final

[4:26:46] checkers before it gets to the youth.

[4:26:50] [inaudible] will share more detailers

[4:26:52] on other topics what we perform.

[4:26:53] thank you.

[4:26:56] >> good afternoon, everybody.

[4:27:02] nutritional requirements, they are

[4:27:04] developed to youth in our care.

[4:27:07] there's applicable title 15 requirements,

[4:27:11] the standards and lunch and breakfast

[4:27:13] meal program guidelines.

[4:27:15] we use these to make sure meals are

[4:27:19] provides and nutritionally appropriate.

[4:27:20] we manage our meals and support

[4:27:23] adequate daily nutrition and caloric

[4:27:26] intake.

[4:27:27] they are updated as recently as june,

[4:27:30] 2026.

[4:27:31] they are based on seasoned food

[4:27:33] availability, nutrition, youth

[4:27:34] feedback and operational needs.

[4:27:40] our menus, meals and snacks.

[4:27:43] the maple street correctional center

[4:27:45] provides food services to ysc and

[4:27:48] probation staff 7 days a week, 365

[4:27:51] days a year.

[4:27:52] we prepare and provide breakfast,

[4:27:54] lunch and dinner trays for youth and

[4:27:56] staff.

[4:27:57] we currently serve about 27 youth on a

[4:27:59] daily average, some of whom receiver

[4:28:01] double trays, this comes to

[4:28:03] approximately 332 trays per day.

[4:28:05] we operate on a four week cycle menu

[4:28:07] for the youth.

[4:28:08] we provide special diets required and

[4:28:10] approved by correctional health

[4:28:12] services dietitian.

[4:28:13] meal are developed and maintained

[4:28:15] in accordance with applicable

[4:28:17] compliance requirements and dietitian

[4:28:19] guide dabs.

[4:28:20] all meals are prepared to meet the

[4:28:23] nutritional dietary needs of the youth

[4:28:26] while maintainers required food

[4:28:27] service standards.

[4:28:28] in addition to required dealings,

[4:28:32] youth receive three snacks each day.

[4:28:35] snacks provide an additional

[4:28:36] opportunity to support daily

[4:28:39] nutritional and calorie needs.

[4:28:41] snack offerings are incorporated into

[4:28:44] the overall plan.

[4:28:49] >> I'm a dietitian with correctional

[4:28:53] health services, I've been with the

[4:28:56] county the for many years, I serve the

[4:29:00] youth, I've been there hillcrest so

[4:29:04] I'm proud of the food services program.

[4:29:07] I believe there's always room for

[4:29:09] improvement.

[4:29:10] from my perspective, my job is to do

[4:29:15] nutrition assessments, I calculate the

[4:29:18] person's needs and compare it to

[4:29:19] intake and the food offered for them.

[4:29:20] what I do is identify problems, I look

[4:29:24] at the ideologies and then I look at

[4:29:27] the data to support that and provide a

[4:29:30] service to make sure the food or the

[4:29:33] diet order is mainly according to what

[4:29:36] the kid can tolerate, the youth can

[4:29:40] tolerate.

[4:29:41] sorry.

[4:29:44] currently we have 26 youth in our

[4:29:50] care, 23 are on the diet list, 19 of

[4:29:54] those 23 are on double trays and 15 of

[4:29:58] those 19 ask for extra eggs, some of

[4:30:01] them have wanted up to 12.

[4:30:04] the nutrition requirements for this

[4:30:05] age group at the highest level is

[4:30:09] about 2800 to 3 thousand calories,

[4:30:12] currently they're provided probably

[4:30:14] about 6500 calories a day and

[4:30:16] probably 24 ounces of protein.

[4:30:18] as a dietitian, I framework my

[4:30:22] assessments around a problem ideology

[4:30:27] and signs and symptoms.

[4:30:28] I feel with this particular group,

[4:30:33] teens in general, young adults have

[4:30:35] strong preferences about food and also

[4:30:37] we have a domain that we use to

[4:30:40] categorize a problem.

[4:30:41] and one of them is knowledge and

[4:30:45] beliefs and attitudes about food.

[4:30:48] so, in the contributing factor are

[4:30:51] their age and what they have looked up

[4:30:52] on the internet.

[4:30:54] they're protein-driven, so based on

[4:30:56] how many calories we give them, they

[4:30:58] have gained weight but it's not that

[4:31:01] great, it's because they have -- they

[4:31:03] tend to gravitate to the proteins.

[4:31:06] they think the food service department

[4:31:09] has been doing the best they can.

[4:31:12] they have been going over and above,

[4:31:14] they don't ever complain about any of

[4:31:16] the double trays.

[4:31:17] they also get snacks in addition.

[4:31:21] I don't have the diet list, without

[4:31:24] the names, so you could see how vast

[4:31:27] this is.

[4:31:30] I think the issue could be the

[4:31:33] delivery, maybe those kind of changes

[4:31:35] but I'm not involved with that but I

[4:31:37] know they're doing the best they can.

[4:31:39] that's all I have.

[4:31:40] any questions?

[4:31:49] >> thank you, supervisors.

[4:31:52] >> okay, wait, one second.

[4:31:56] they won't brag about theses but they

[4:31:58] make the best cookies ever, so my

[4:32:01] team's going to hand out some of their

[4:32:03] cookies, whoever wanted left

[4:32:06] overcooked, grab it now or they're

[4:32:07] going to be gone.

[4:32:08] go ahead, share the cookies.

[4:32:11] >> thank you, supervisor.

[4:32:12] >> and some of us had lunch that they

[4:32:18] prepared and that the youth eat as

[4:32:21] well and I enjoyed it personally.

[4:32:22] I think most of us had the lunch.

[4:32:24] >> can I say one thing to you?

[4:32:26] >> yes.

[4:32:27] >> back when I was looking at the

[4:32:30] report, the 23-24, I want to point out

[4:32:31] that the school lunch program is very,

[4:32:34] very strict with their nutrition

[4:32:36] requirements and for protein, it's

[4:32:39] only two ounces per meal for that

[4:32:41] group for high school kids.

[4:32:43] two ounces, picture a mcdonalds

[4:32:49] hamburger with the two ounces of

[4:32:51] grain, add to it one cup of vegetable

[4:32:56] and part of that was the restrictions.

[4:32:58] >> through the chair, can I just say

[4:33:01] that I recently had an opportunity to

[4:33:02] tour the facility and I saw firsthand

[4:33:04] the great work that you are doing over

[4:33:07] there, that is a huge kitchen, you're

[4:33:10] preparing many meals throughout the

[4:33:12] day and, again, we had food today that

[4:33:14] you prepared and I just appreciate

[4:33:16] everything you do.

[4:33:17] it gave me a better insight as to

[4:33:19] what's being provided to everyone

[4:33:21] within the system.

[4:33:22] so, again, thank you for your work.

[4:33:23] >> thank you.

[4:33:26] >> go ahead, supervisor speier?

[4:33:28] >> leave it to food to get our attention,

[4:33:31] right.

[4:33:32] I will tell you that in my visit last

[4:33:36] night, food came up and they had some

[4:33:42] complimentary words, they said the

[4:33:43] food is a lot better now than it used

[4:33:45] to be.

[4:33:46] kudos to you for that.

[4:33:47] they do want more salt and pepper and

[4:33:49] spice and I know the school lunch

[4:33:52] program doesn't allow that, and I

[4:33:54] don't know if the dietitian can help

[4:33:56] us with that, I think the blandness

[4:33:59] bothers them a little bit, if we can

[4:34:02] somehow slip them some patsies of salt

[4:34:06] and pepper, that might be nice.

[4:34:07] >> thank you.

[4:34:09] >> I would just like to state that a couple

[4:34:12] of months ago, we had a sorbet of

[4:34:17] how the food has been going on, and

[4:34:19] I'm happy to say we have a copy of it,

[4:34:22] how the food has been improved.

[4:34:24] we have worked tirelessly to reinvent,

[4:34:28] not make some different reinvent the

[4:34:31] wheel, how can we use the spices to

[4:34:33] generate the flavors and I think so

[4:34:35] far for these comments, we are proud

[4:34:37] we have and we are committed and

[4:34:39] willing to, anything we can do for it,

[4:34:42] food is my passion and I love to do

[4:34:45] it, so it doesn't matter to me who is

[4:34:48] the end, but food is important to us

[4:34:50] so, we're committed to doing that and

[4:34:53] if we hear anything to be changing,

[4:34:54] we're happy to do it.

[4:34:57] hopefully we can get the program we

[4:34:59] had in inglewood where the kids were

[4:35:02] preparing the food, as a food service

[4:35:05] worker, I would love to go back and

[4:35:08] reinvent that, for me, it was very

[4:35:12] important, very successful and

[4:35:14] satisfying for me, if we can bring

[4:35:16] that again, I will do it on my day off

[4:35:18] or whenever it has to be, there's no

[4:35:20] issue at all.

[4:35:21] >> if they're anything like my

[4:35:23] teenager, they will think they can

[4:35:25] cook better than you so I'm sure

[4:35:28] you're open to the challenge.

[4:35:29] >> I love the challenge.

[4:35:30] >> thank you so much.

[4:35:34] I lost my -- is this mine, okay, thank

[4:35:37] you.

[4:35:38] okay.

[4:35:39] we will now move on to -- of course,

[4:35:43] why don't we pause far second, chief

[4:35:46] keene, I think you had one last slide

[4:35:48] you wanted to wrap up.

[4:35:51] >> [inaudible]

[4:35:52] >> did we have any questions for the

[4:35:56] bulk of -- no, no questions for chief

[4:35:59] keene yet, we'll wait until the end.

[4:36:00] okay, perfect.

[4:36:02] I would now like to welcome deputy

[4:36:05] district attorney nadia hanh.

[4:36:07] and I want to acknowledge that our

[4:36:11] district attorney steve wag staff is

[4:36:15] here as well.

[4:36:16] welcome, nadia.

[4:36:19] >> I can't believe I have to follow

[4:36:22] fresh baked cookies.

[4:36:23] my name is nadia hanh, I'm with the

[4:36:28] da's office, thank you to the

[4:36:30] supervisors for the invitation to

[4:36:31] speak with you about the da's role in

[4:36:34] the juvenile justice system.

[4:36:37] the purpose of the juvenile justice

[4:36:40] system as whole is to provide for the

[4:36:42] protection and safety of the public

[4:36:44] and each minor under the jurisdiction

[4:36:46] of the juvenile court and to preserve

[4:36:48] and strengthen the minor's family ties

[4:36:51] whenever possible.

[4:36:52] that's codified in welfare and

[4:36:55] institution code, code 202, it goes on

[4:36:58] to lay out the sort of guiding

[4:37:00] principles that the da's office uses

[4:37:07] in all of our deliberations.

[4:37:08] agencies charged with enforcing and

[4:37:09] administering juvenile law are

[4:37:10] mandated to weigh the following

[4:37:11] consideration, safety and protection

[4:37:12] of the public, the importance of

[4:37:16] redressing injuries to victims and

[4:37:18] the best interest of the minor who

[4:37:19] is the subject of the juvenile court

[4:37:25] matter.

[4:37:26] the juvenile division serves a

[4:37:28] number of different functions, we're

[4:37:29] involved in the actual court process

[4:37:31] from the filing of a case through

[4:37:35] disposition but the one that's most

[4:37:37] relevant to today's study session is

[4:37:39] probably the review and charging of

[4:37:41] cases, so that will be my focus today.

[4:37:44] it's the prosecutor's decision to file

[4:37:46] a petition that initiates the court

[4:37:50] process.

[4:37:53] chief keene did touch on this and I

[4:37:55] think it's important to understand

[4:37:57] that just because an offense is

[4:37:59] committed in the community by a minor

[4:38:01] does not mean that that case is going

[4:38:03] to end up in juvenile court.

[4:38:06] there are a number of levels of review

[4:38:08] that occur before a case reaches my

[4:38:10] office.

[4:38:11] the first starts with the law enforcement

[4:38:13] agency who took the case.

[4:38:16] the agency has several options for

[4:38:17] what to do next.

[4:38:19] they can determine whether any further

[4:38:25] action is needed and it's frequently

[4:38:26] the case the youth's school, family,

[4:38:30] community can provide adequate support

[4:38:32] and guidance for that youth and the

[4:38:34] case needs to go no further.

[4:38:37] they can refer the minor through

[4:38:40] services through a communities based

[4:38:41] organization on a voluntary basis,

[4:38:45] chief keene did talk about the

[4:38:47] diversion programs that our law

[4:38:50] enforcement agencies and schools have

[4:38:51] created that are in-house programs but

[4:38:53] if none of these options are deemed

[4:38:55] appropriate, then the case will go on

[4:38:57] to the next level of review which is

[4:39:00] being forwarded to the probation

[4:39:05] didn't.

[4:39:06] once there, a deputy probation officer

[4:39:07] is assigned and does essentially a

[4:39:08] similar analysis, they are also

[4:39:10] authorized to decide that no further

[4:39:11] action is needed under the

[4:39:14] circumstances, they can refer the

[4:39:16] family to another agency or community

[4:39:18] based organization for services and

[4:39:20] then they can a offer informal

[4:39:24] supervision to the minor and the

[4:39:25] family for up to a period of six

[4:39:26] months where is the family can receive

[4:39:28] services on a voluntary basis and the

[4:39:31] case will be oozed afterwards without

[4:39:33] going to court.

[4:39:34] the fourth option is to refer the

[4:39:36] court to the da's office for review.

[4:39:40] if the case is referred to the da's

[4:39:42] office, regardless of what the offense

[4:39:44] is, the assigned prosecutor will also

[4:39:48] review for filing suitability.

[4:39:51] the assigned da can decide no further

[4:39:54] action is needed, they can refer the

[4:39:55] case back to the probation department

[4:39:59] for informal supervision or file a

[4:40:01] ward ship petition to initiate the

[4:40:03] court process.

[4:40:04] and I had an asterisk under the

[4:40:08] probation column because there are

[4:40:09] some categories of offenses that

[4:40:12] mandate a referral to the da's office

[4:40:14] although this doesn't mean they are

[4:40:16] mandated to be filed.

[4:40:19] those include the 707b offenses we

[4:40:22] heard about earlier that I won't

[4:40:24] repeat.

[4:40:25] those are serious and violent felonies.

[4:40:28] it also includes possession of a gun

[4:40:29] or deadly weapon on school grounds,

[4:40:32] assault of a school employee with a

[4:40:35] deadly weapon, victim restitution that

[4:40:37] exceeds 5 thousand dollars or if

[4:40:39] there's a prior ward ship.

[4:40:43] on average, the juvenile division

[4:40:47] reviews 550 cases per year and files

[4:40:50] petitions in 360 of those cases and

[4:40:52] that's based on data from the years

[4:40:55] 2021 through 2025.

[4:40:58] this information is offered to

[4:41:02] illustrate that prosecutors exercise

[4:41:04] of discretion is done carefully and on

[4:41:06] a case by case basis and that the

[4:41:08] receipt of a petition or a case does

[4:41:12] not mean that filing will be automatic.

[4:41:19] those are my prepared comments for

[4:41:21] today.

[4:41:22] I thank you again for the opportunity

[4:41:23] to speak with you and if you have any

[4:41:26] questions, I'm happy to answer them.

[4:41:28] >> thank you, nadia.

[4:41:30] any questions from the board?

[4:41:31] supervisor speier?

[4:41:34] >> thank you, so about 60% of the

[4:41:37] cases that are referred to you

[4:41:39] actually are then processed through,

[4:41:42] sounds like, based on those numbers.

[4:41:44] of those offenses, the 707's that are

[4:41:48] automatically brought to your

[4:41:49] attention, not all of those will be

[4:41:53] processed through a court procedure?

[4:41:55] >> yes.

[4:41:56] and I can give you an example of a

[4:42:00] time that a case might come to us, the

[4:42:03] report having been taken and labeled

[4:42:05] as a 707b offense, but then we later

[4:42:09] determine that it not only doesn't

[4:42:10] need to be filed as such but that

[4:42:12] maybe there is some kind of diversion

[4:42:15] or informal probation that would be

[4:42:16] appropriate and I would say the most

[4:42:18] common would be what's called an

[4:42:23] estes robbery, where a shoplifting

[4:42:25] is elevated because there's some sort

[4:42:26] of a use of force or threat against

[4:42:29] the loss prevention officer or the

[4:42:31] store employee.

[4:42:35] those while technically that can be

[4:42:37] counted as a robbery or could be

[4:42:41] charged as a robbery, our office by

[4:42:45] policy looks at whether a weapon was

[4:42:48] used, whether there wass significant

[4:42:51] injury to the victim, the case that

[4:42:53] has come in as a robbery, we may end

[4:42:56] up filing as a petty theft or not

[4:42:59] referring to all and deferring it to

[4:43:01] diversion.

[4:43:02] >> thank you.

[4:43:04] okay.

[4:43:05] we will now move on to the private

[4:43:07] defender's office, we have mr. Rayes,

[4:43:12] thank you.

[4:43:13] >> good afternoon, president, members

[4:43:16] of the board, mr. Callagy, mr.

[4:43:19] nibbelin, members of the public,

[4:43:21] my name is ron rayes, I'm the --

[4:43:25] >> I'm going to ask you to speak

[4:43:28] into the mic.

[4:43:29] >> is this better?

[4:43:30] >> yes.

[4:43:31] >> I'm the assistant chief of the

[4:43:33] juvenile branch with the private

[4:43:35] defender program, I have been a

[4:43:36] defender for 23 years and I have the

[4:43:39] privilege and in the last 7 years

[4:43:41] to be heading the juvenile file

[4:43:47] officer, I serve on the executive

[4:43:49] board with the california youth

[4:43:51] offender's entry which supports over

[4:43:55] 1600 youth defenders throughout the

[4:43:57] state by providing training, amicus

[4:44:00] briefs as well as legislative

[4:44:02] advocacy where I have co-led several

[4:44:05] state youth justice buildings.

[4:44:07] I'm also proud to share that cydc

[4:44:12] chose san mateo county to hold their

[4:44:15] annual roundtable training and it will

[4:44:18] be held in october and I appreciate

[4:44:20] your time for allowing me to do the

[4:44:21] this presentation.

[4:44:24] I want to start by sharing a little

[4:44:26] bit about our youth offenders, we have

[4:44:30] 10 youth offenders in our office, they

[4:44:34] handle cases in different levels,

[4:44:36] they start with the firsts level and

[4:44:38] the more serious level are the

[4:44:41] transfer cases, we have -- we handle

[4:44:44] mid level cases where our serious

[4:44:49] felonies are listed in the welfare

[4:44:52] institution code, 707b, I'm not going

[4:44:53] to go through what these are, they've

[4:44:57] been covered by the chief's

[4:44:59] presentation, also our attorneys

[4:45:00] handle the third tier of cases which

[4:45:03] consist of low level felonies and

[4:45:08] misdemeanors.

[4:45:09] one of the things that we thrive is

[4:45:13] the training of our attorneys handling

[4:45:16] juvenile law cases is a very

[4:45:19] technical area of the law, so we

[4:45:21] require all of our attorneys to

[4:45:23] complete minimum 15 hours mcle each

[4:45:26] year, of that, there has to be 8 hours

[4:45:30] of juvenile law specific training.

[4:45:32] we offer in-house between 10-12 hours

[4:45:36] of mcle juvenile training and also

[4:45:38] collaborate with an organization

[4:45:45] like cydc to collectively have about

[4:45:47] 24 hours we offer to our attorneys at

[4:45:49] no cost to them.

[4:45:54] and in addition to the training, we

[4:45:56] make sure that our attorneys have the

[4:45:58] support they need to do the best job

[4:46:04] possible, that's through the

[4:46:11] support services we provide, it starts

[4:46:12] with our panel of private

[4:46:13] investigators, we have our holistic

[4:46:15] and mitigation specialists, we have a

[4:46:16] panel of social workers, we work with

[4:46:19] experts and we work with client

[4:46:20] advocates as well.

[4:46:25] and I added this slide here to just

[4:46:29] give you a highlight of how we are

[4:46:32] involved in the life of a case.

[4:46:35] it starts on the very left, it starts

[4:46:37] the minute the youth literally at

[4:46:39] times are at the scene when they are

[4:46:41] arrested, we get a call in order to

[4:46:44] provide them with their miranda -- to

[4:46:47] provide a miranda consultation and

[4:46:50] discuss with them their miranda rights.

[4:46:52] then it moves when a youth is booked

[4:46:55] at ysc, we start working through our

[4:46:58] holistic and mitigation specialist to

[4:47:01] work on ways in order to release that

[4:47:03] youth at that detention hearing and

[4:47:06] the first green box there, that's --

[4:47:09] of course our courtroom advocacy which

[4:47:14] consists of rigorous litigation

[4:47:17] strategies, we investigate the

[4:47:18] allegation and the petition, filing

[4:47:21] motions, setting contested hearings

[4:47:23] and also using experts to support our

[4:47:26] litigations strategies.

[4:47:27] and last but not least, it's also our

[4:47:30] work under the secure treatment

[4:47:33] facility as the chief mentioned with

[4:47:36] the closure of djj, it's changed the

[4:47:40] way we handle post disposition

[4:47:43] representation and there's a lot of

[4:47:44] effort we have been putting into that

[4:47:46] since the closure of djj.

[4:47:48] I want to share a date point on each

[4:47:53] of these areas that I shared with

[4:47:55] you and I'm going to start the first

[4:47:57] area, I'm going to share with you

[4:48:00] about our miranda hotline, we have

[4:48:04] attorneys on-call 7 day as week, 24

[4:48:06] hours as day, last year we received

[4:48:09] 2048 calls from law enforcement

[4:48:11] agencies, we conducted 244

[4:48:13] consultation with youth that had been

[4:48:15] arrested and then of the youth that we

[4:48:18] spoke to, 98% of them elected to

[4:48:20] assert their right to remain silent.

[4:48:23] and a breakdown of the youth we worked

[4:48:25] with in this area, 65% of them were 16

[4:48:30] and 17 years old and then 35% of them

[4:48:33] were under 15 and under.

[4:48:40] the next area that we're very proud

[4:48:42] of, we have done a lot of work on is

[4:48:46] through our mitigation and holistic

[4:48:50] specialist, lindsay paige is here with

[4:48:53] me today, she started the services back

[4:48:56] in 2024 on a contract basis and we are

[4:48:58] very grateful to our chief defender

[4:49:00] for agreeing with us to switch

[4:49:03] realizing the importance of this work

[4:49:06] to switch that -- this work into full

[4:49:09] time position so lindsay is with us

[4:49:11] now full time, that started in march

[4:49:13] of this year.

[4:49:16] what lindsay does on a day in and day

[4:49:18] out, she meets with youth soon after

[4:49:21] they are booked at juvenile hall, she

[4:49:25] starts working with them, connects

[4:49:26] with the family and any of their

[4:49:28] support people.

[4:49:30] she requests their school records and

[4:49:31] starts working on a safety plan.

[4:49:33] our goal always to have met with the

[4:49:35] youth within 24 hours of them coming

[4:49:38] into ysc and oftentimes she sees them

[4:49:44] within a few hours of their detention.

[4:49:45] last year, in the last fiscal year,

[4:49:47] lindsay created 56 safety plans in

[4:49:52] which she connected the youth to ten

[4:49:54] different community based

[4:49:56] organizations, so the youth when upon

[4:49:59] their release are receiving services.

[4:50:01] she also developed 60 detailed fully

[4:50:04] structured release plan that had

[4:50:08] school work, extra curricular

[4:50:09] activities with contingencies if the

[4:50:11] youth is released on emp.

[4:50:13] she also at times worked with the

[4:50:15] youth to ensure they are reenrolled

[4:50:18] upon their release, they are

[4:50:20] reenrolled into their school of origin.

[4:50:22] we also referred 21 youth to the youth

[4:50:25] education law project at stanford

[4:50:27] which they provide the youth with

[4:50:30] representation at discipline hearings,

[4:50:32] iep's as well as direct representation

[4:50:35] and education law type of cases.

[4:50:39] and to give you a highlight of the

[4:50:42] result of lindsay's work, we had

[4:50:45] 141 detentions that were referred to

[4:50:46] our office last year, she -- we

[4:50:50] referred to her 82 of those detentions

[4:50:55] and she worked -- based on her work,

[4:50:58] 64 of these youth were released as a

[4:51:03] result of her work and that's a result

[4:51:08] we're very proud of.

[4:51:13] another data I would like to share

[4:51:15] with you is a lot of the work our

[4:51:18] attorneys have been doing which is the

[4:51:20] area of transfers.

[4:51:24] and in 2016 and briefly to give you

[4:51:26] history here, in 2016, prop 57 wiz

[4:51:30] passed in which ended the ability to

[4:51:34] try children as adults in adult courts

[4:51:36] and that practice at the time was

[4:51:40] known as direct file, since the

[4:51:46] passage of prop 57, every youth that

[4:51:47] is facing a transfer must have an

[4:51:52] evident hearing before a juvenile

[4:51:55] judge and only the judge can transfer

[4:51:58] it to adult court.

[4:51:59] since the passage of prop 57, we

[4:52:02] represented 7 individuals in which

[4:52:03] they were facing transfer petitions

[4:52:05] and none of those 7 were transferred

[4:52:08] to adult court.

[4:52:09] we did have two cases in which we

[4:52:13] called retrospective transfers.

[4:52:15] retrospective transfer is for an

[4:52:19] individual whose cases originated in

[4:52:20] adult court, due to changes of the

[4:52:22] law, they came back to the juvenile

[4:52:29] court, one of the cases was after prop

[4:52:31] 57 passed and part of the global

[4:52:34] disposition of that case, it went back

[4:52:36] to adult court in that case, the

[4:52:39] second retrospective transfer, it

[4:52:41] concluded weeks ago, in that case

[4:52:43] after a lengthy transfer hearing, the

[4:52:46] transfer petition was denied and it

[4:52:50] remained in juvenile court, that's a

[4:52:53] data point we're proud to share with

[4:52:54] you this afternoon.

[4:52:58] the next area I want to focus on for

[4:53:02] today's presentation is our post

[4:53:05] disposition advocacy and our work with

[4:53:07] youth are committed to the secure

[4:53:09] track.

[4:53:10] as the chief has mentioned, that law

[4:53:13] responsibility have fallen on the

[4:53:15] county since the closure of djj and

[4:53:18] also with that, with the sb823,

[4:53:23] there's a lot of responsibility that

[4:53:24] we were tasked with.

[4:53:25] as a result of that, we worked with

[4:53:28] our youth add voluntary kayos, each

[4:53:30] youth who are committed to secure

[4:53:33] track is assigned a compliant added

[4:53:35] voluntary kate.

[4:53:37] the client advocates work with them on

[4:53:39] the creation of individual

[4:53:41] rehabilitation plan, not only with the

[4:53:42] youth but also with the defender.

[4:53:44] they meet with the youth at least once

[4:53:47] a month in order to track their

[4:53:49] progress as they're making their

[4:53:53] rehabilitation progress towards their

[4:53:54] rehabilitation plan, they attend

[4:53:58] mbt's, court reviews and coordinate

[4:54:00] with the different providers and they

[4:54:03] also assist their providers in less

[4:54:06] restrictive programs as they

[4:54:07] transition from a secure facility into

[4:54:10] the community.

[4:54:14] and to share a date point on the work

[4:54:16] we have been doing in this space, in

[4:54:19] 2026, there were ten youth that were

[4:54:24] in secure track, nine of them were

[4:54:26] eligible for the six months review

[4:54:28] that's mandated from welfare and

[4:54:31] institution code 875, as a result of

[4:54:33] the work of our advocates and the

[4:54:35] advocates of our defenders, those

[4:54:37] youth we were able to save them 55

[4:54:39] months off of their total time

[4:54:43] commitment.

[4:54:44] and with that, I'm happy to answer any

[4:54:46] questions and thank you for your time.

[4:54:49] >> thank you.

[4:54:50] any questions?

[4:54:53] okay, I have a question.

[4:54:54] >> yes?

[4:55:00] >> so, I'm interested in the miranda

[4:55:07] consultation work that you mentioned.

[4:55:09] I'm going to ask a brief question

[4:55:11] and we can talk about the rest

[4:55:14] off-line because we have a lot of

[4:55:15] folks here.

[4:55:19] we'll just talk about it off-line, but

[4:55:23] I'm interested in how that works

[4:55:31] especially with like our incorporated

[4:55:35] areas where we still have our school

[4:55:38] resource officers.

[4:55:39] I heard in my district specifically

[4:55:41] that these miranda consultations

[4:55:44] interfere with them having

[4:55:45] relationships with the young people

[4:55:47] but to me, I feel like they're really

[4:55:50] important but I'm trying to tease out

[4:55:55] what's the -- I don't know, it's good

[4:55:58] -- like, if having a relationship with

[4:56:00] the young person leads to them

[4:56:03] incriminating themselves and going to

[4:56:09] jail, let's ere on the side of caution

[4:56:11] and make sure they're not doing that.

[4:56:12] >> absolutely.

[4:56:14] our job is to advise the youth of

[4:56:17] their miranda rights, what it means

[4:56:19] and what the consequences of given

[4:56:23] incriminating statement and how it

[4:56:24] plays out in the legal system if they

[4:56:26] were to give any statement that is

[4:56:29] incriminating.

[4:56:30] they ultimately make that decision, we

[4:56:31] don't make that decision for them.

[4:56:33] so, that's why we ask only

[4:56:38] specifically trained attorneys or

[4:56:40] juvenile defenders are the ones who

[4:56:43] handle those calls because they

[4:56:46] understand the adolescent brain

[4:56:47] development, they understand that most

[4:56:49] youths do not know what miranda rights

[4:56:51] are and how they would play out if

[4:56:53] they were to be -- to work to give a

[4:56:57] statement.

[4:56:58] another thing we also focus on, we

[4:57:00] address the fact that given a

[4:57:02] statement and whether you're going to

[4:57:04] be detained or not are two

[4:57:06] separate things and that should not be

[4:57:07] parts of the equation if they're

[4:57:09] making their decisions whether they're

[4:57:11] going to be giving a statement or not.

[4:57:13] >> thank you.

[4:57:14] >> and as far as the mechanics of how

[4:57:17] it works, I'm more than happy to share

[4:57:18] with you that information.

[4:57:19] >> thank you, we'll talk more about

[4:57:21] that off-line.

[4:57:23] any other comments?

[4:57:24] okay.

[4:57:25] we will now move on -- thank you so

[4:57:27] much, ron, we'll move on and I would

[4:57:29] like to welcome presiding judge susan

[4:57:35] jakubowski, welcome, and thank you for

[4:57:37] your patience.

[4:57:38] >> alright.

[4:57:40] president corzo and members of the

[4:57:42] board of supervisors, mr. Callagy,

[4:57:44] mr. Nibbelin, thank you for

[4:57:47] allowing me to be here this afternoon

[4:57:49] and to address you.

[4:57:51] my name is susan and I'm currently

[4:57:56] assigned as the presiding judge of the

[4:57:59] juvenile court, this is my second time

[4:58:02] up at juvenile court, I was a judge up

[4:58:04] at the juvenile court from 2018

[4:58:07] through 2021 and I really value this

[4:58:09] work, I enjoy it so when the chance

[4:58:11] came to go back, I asked to go.

[4:58:15] I took over as presiding judge in late

[4:58:18] may of this year.

[4:58:19] we also have a second judge up at

[4:58:22] juvenile court, just amara lee, she

[4:58:25] started in may and has worked for me

[4:58:28] these past few months.

[4:58:32] I'm here to talk to you about

[4:58:35] the role of the juvenile court judge

[4:58:37] and how justice partners work together

[4:58:39] in the juvenile justice system.

[4:58:41] in the past few months, the juvenile

[4:58:46] court justices have been meeting

[4:58:49] with community stakeholders and

[4:58:50] community organizations to learn

[4:58:51] more about them and to visit their

[4:58:53] facility.

[4:58:54] one of the reasons we've been doing

[4:58:56] this is judge lee is new to juvenile

[4:59:00] court, many things have changed so I

[4:59:02] feel it is helpful for both of us to

[4:59:05] gather as much information as possible

[4:59:07] as the programs and individuals who

[4:59:09] are working with us in the juvenile

[4:59:12] justice system.

[4:59:13] in san mateo, there are two juvenile

[4:59:16] court judges, both of us preside over

[4:59:20] juvenile justice matters and

[4:59:22] dependency cases and handle all the

[4:59:25] hearings in the case including

[4:59:28] pretrial conferences, trials and

[4:59:30] dispositions, we also are responsible

[4:59:32] for conducting periodic reviews of

[4:59:34] cases as provided for in the welfare

[4:59:36] and institutions code and sometimes if

[4:59:38] we just need -- if we just think a

[4:59:41] youth needs some additional monitoring

[4:59:43] and we just want to make sure that --

[4:59:46] how they're doing and to make sure

[4:59:48] they're getting the services that they

[4:59:50] need.

[4:59:51] in addition to our court work, judge

[4:59:53] lee and I also attends events

[4:59:55] involving our youth in the youth

[5:00:04] services center as well as the

[5:00:05] community.

[5:00:06] we have attended independent living

[5:00:07] graduation, at the youth services

[5:00:08] center and we asked to be on the list

[5:00:09] for events at the youth services

[5:00:12] center if they're doing presentations

[5:00:13] so if we have time, we can go over and

[5:00:16] be there with them and see what

[5:00:17] they're doing.

[5:00:18] as a juvenile court judge, I work

[5:00:20] regularly with many different

[5:00:21] holders and organizations in the

[5:00:25] juvenile justice arena, these include

[5:00:27] probation, the district attorney's

[5:00:29] office, the private defender program,

[5:00:31] the human services agency of san

[5:00:34] mateo, county counsel, behavioral

[5:00:35] health and recovery services, court

[5:00:37] appointed special advocates, the

[5:00:40] juvenile justice and delinquency

[5:00:42] prevention commission, fresh lifelines

[5:00:44] for work and live in peace.

[5:00:46] each of these stakeholders and

[5:00:48] organizations has a different role

[5:00:50] working with young people who become

[5:00:53] involved in juvenile justice in the

[5:00:55] county.

[5:00:56] the model we currently use in juvenile

[5:00:57] matters is one of collaboration

[5:01:00] involving these stakeholders and

[5:01:03] organizations, many of us meet

[5:01:06] regularly to discuss poll kissinger

[5:01:07] procedures and programs to see what

[5:01:09] issues need to be addressed and to

[5:01:12] improve how services are provided to

[5:01:19] the youth and their families.

[5:01:20] my main priorities are that the youth

[5:01:21] receive the services necessary for the

[5:01:22] rehabilitation and development while

[5:01:23] they are in the juvenile justice

[5:01:25] system.

[5:01:26] it is also important that the youth

[5:01:28] and those that provide services to

[5:01:30] them as well as the community remain

[5:01:32] safe during this process.

[5:01:38] although each of the stakeholders may

[5:01:41] have different responsibilities in the

[5:01:42] process, my goal is to continue to

[5:01:44] have everyone work together as much as

[5:01:46] we can to reach a resolution so that

[5:01:49] we continue to focus on the goal of

[5:01:52] rehabilitation of our youth so they

[5:01:54] will succeed as future adult members

[5:01:56] of our community.

[5:01:58] and I'm happy to take any questions if

[5:02:01] anyone has any.

[5:02:02] >> thank you.

[5:02:03] supervisor mueller?

[5:02:04] >> thank you, judge, I wanted to ask

[5:02:09] when I was going through the san mateo

[5:02:11] county juvenile justice and

[5:02:13] delinquency comprising's operating

[5:02:15] policies, it says appointments is done

[5:02:17] by yourself in conjunction with the

[5:02:18] presiding judge.

[5:02:19] >> right.

[5:02:20] >> then later on in section 4, it says

[5:02:23] that the county executive's offices

[5:02:26] and administrative staff provide

[5:02:27] support to the juvenile justice

[5:02:30] commission.

[5:02:31] who is the entity that reviews the

[5:02:36] report and determines whether or not

[5:02:37] the report that's being done on

[5:02:40] inspections is in compliance with

[5:02:43] standard practices?

[5:02:45] is there anybody that makes sure

[5:02:47] they're following the rules or doing

[5:02:48] the inspection right?

[5:02:51] >> well, somebody, no?

[5:02:55] okay.

[5:02:56] I will cede to ms. Rasmussen so she

[5:03:00] can address that.

[5:03:05] I know the court -- the presiding

[5:03:06] judge of juvenile court reviews

[5:03:07] applications for commissioners and

[5:03:08] makes a recommendation, I think they

[5:03:09] are then confirmed eventually by the

[5:03:11] board.

[5:03:12] I do know that they are provided under

[5:03:15] the law to be able to go in and do the

[5:03:18] inspections.

[5:03:19] obviously I review those reports and

[5:03:20] information and if there's some

[5:03:22] concern, we can address it.

[5:03:24] but I will also let ms. Rasmussen

[5:03:26] speak in more detail to that.

[5:03:28] >> what I'm trying to understand is

[5:03:30] when I look at the reports and I have

[5:03:32] gone back and looked at the last

[5:03:37] reports, under section 4, it says --

[5:03:41] excuse me, under section 2a, it says

[5:03:43] there should be not less than 7, no

[5:03:45] more than 15 commissioners and we have

[5:03:47] 10 right now.

[5:03:49] later it makes it very clear that no

[5:03:52] one commissioner can speak for the

[5:03:53] body as you would expect.

[5:03:54] when I look at the reports, in 2025, only

[5:03:59] 3 of the commissioners did the

[5:04:02] inspection and only two signed it,

[5:04:09] pretty close to one person speaking

[5:04:10] for the body.

[5:04:11] in 2025, only 4 did the inspection

[5:04:12] which is still less than a quorum of

[5:04:18] members of that board.

[5:04:19] so I'm wondering, is that adequate or

[5:04:20] is that -- how are supposed to take

[5:04:21] that as a body or as a county?

[5:04:23] >> I will allow ms. Rasmussen to speak

[5:04:26] from that, from attending the

[5:04:29] meetings, what I'm aware of is that

[5:04:31] they have commissioners that sign up

[5:04:33] to do the inspections.

[5:04:35] I believe then they present all of the

[5:04:37] data and information from those

[5:04:40] inspections to one another and so the

[5:04:44] onuses as I understand it, they have

[5:04:47] these commissioners would sign up to

[5:04:49] do the inspections and then those are

[5:04:53] probably -- they conduct the

[5:04:54] inspections and I believe they sign

[5:04:55] off on them but I think the -- and she

[5:04:59] can get into more specifics about

[5:05:03] this, then I believe they share that

[5:05:06] information with -- at the jjdpc meetings

[5:05:08] and with the rest of the

[5:05:09] commission, and I will say I

[5:05:13] was not up in the juvenile court in

[5:05:16] 2025 and 2024, I haven't been there

[5:05:21] since 2021 was my last year there, and

[5:05:24] I am also newly the presiding judge up

[5:05:26] there as of may of this year so, from

[5:05:30] what I remember, and that's what I'm

[5:05:32] going back to, that's my understanding

[5:05:33] of how things work but I would leave

[5:05:35] it to ms. Rasmussen to provide you

[5:05:38] more detail as to those questions.

[5:05:39] >> I appreciate that.

[5:05:40] >> thank you, I'm just going to jump

[5:05:43] in.

[5:05:44] judge, I just want to -- before we

[5:05:47] invite chair rasmussen up, if you

[5:05:49] would allow me to let -- I have done a

[5:05:52] bunch of research on this because I'm

[5:05:55] the liaison to this commission now, so

[5:05:57] I know mr. Callagy has some

[5:05:58] information and we have deputy county

[5:06:03] counsel, judith, that has some

[5:06:05] information, we've been looking into it

[5:06:07] so there's like state law which

[5:06:11] chair rasmussen serves on a state body

[5:06:13] and has that perspective.

[5:06:15] we discovered that we have a local

[5:06:17] ordinance and we will get to that and

[5:06:19] I will give chair rasmussen more time

[5:06:24] during the jjdpc presentation section

[5:06:25] if that's okay with you.

[5:06:26] >> yes.

[5:06:27] >> okay, perfect, thank you so much.

[5:06:29] and I totally -- you're not even full

[5:06:32] three months into the new role, so

[5:06:34] thank you so much for your

[5:06:36] presentation.

[5:06:37] >> thank you.

[5:06:38] >> I have a question.

[5:06:39] >> supervisor speier?

[5:06:40] >> thank you, judge, for your present

[5:06:42] at.

[5:06:43] I -- presentation, I don't know if

[5:06:46] you have read the civil grand jury

[5:06:48] report of july 2025.

[5:06:51] it's entitled vacant, valuable and

[5:06:55] vulnerable, reimagining san mateo

[5:06:57] county's youth services counties, have

[5:06:58] you had a chance?

[5:06:59] >> I have not.

[5:07:00] >> maybe after you read it, we can

[5:07:02] have a conversation because there's

[5:07:08] some really I think valid questions

[5:07:09] that are being ray raised as to how we

[5:07:10] can provide services to this

[5:07:11] population, maybe in a less

[5:07:15] constrained fashion or differently

[5:07:16] than we are, so I would encourage that

[5:07:20] conversation once you've had a chance

[5:07:21] to read it, thank you.

[5:07:23] >> yes, happy to.

[5:07:24] >> supervisor canepa also has a

[5:07:25] question.

[5:07:26] >> I don't have a question, but I want

[5:07:28] to thank you, judge, as well as judge

[5:07:30] lee, I think we've had an incredible

[5:07:34] representation from the court, your

[5:07:36] ability to leave and then come back

[5:07:38] speaks volumes.

[5:07:39] I think it takes a very special person

[5:07:43] or special people and I think what the

[5:07:45] court has demonstrated over a period

[5:07:47] of time is really fair but being

[5:07:50] compassionate and really making sure

[5:07:53] that we understand people's stories

[5:07:55] and what we can do.

[5:07:57] these are -- to be quite frank with

[5:07:59] you, these are young people and

[5:08:01] everyone deserves a chance, especially

[5:08:04] at a young age, but I'm delighted, I'm

[5:08:07] excited that you're back and whatever

[5:08:10] I can do as board member, I just want

[5:08:12] to support you and your efforts,

[5:08:16] please tell judge lee who I sit on the

[5:08:20] library board with that you guys are

[5:08:23] doing an incredible job.

[5:08:24] we really do enjoy working with the

[5:08:26] both of you.

[5:08:27] I'm glad you came back.

[5:08:29] >> and one thing I did want to say and

[5:08:31] I look forward to reading the grand

[5:08:33] jury report about the facilities.

[5:08:37] I think that as chief can keene

[5:08:39] mentioned and I think we all are of

[5:08:42] the opinion that there's always

[5:08:45] situations that we can improve things.

[5:08:48] facilities, working on getting youth

[5:08:52] connected earlier with services,

[5:08:53] working on getting services for the

[5:08:55] youth and their families in a quicker

[5:08:58] way and in a broader way and I think

[5:09:03] certainly there are things that can be

[5:09:06] done to improve the facilities and

[5:09:07] that's what I think we all want and

[5:09:09] that's one of the reasons that many of

[5:09:13] us work together klab rat I beverly to

[5:09:16] find ways to make things less like a

[5:09:19] facility for the youth and more a

[5:09:23] system where they can work on the

[5:09:25] rehabilitation, they can focus on

[5:09:26] their education.

[5:09:27] they can do a lot of fun things.

[5:09:29] one of the things I like to stress a

[5:09:32] lot of times is they've done things

[5:09:33] that are very serious sometimes but

[5:09:36] they're still kids and they need a

[5:09:38] chance to be kids and I think we all

[5:09:43] really -- the justice partners and the

[5:09:46] stakeholders all have that same goal

[5:09:47] in mind, that we work with them in an

[5:09:50] environment that will address their

[5:09:53] issues, allow them to be kids and help

[5:09:55] them to get to a better place at the

[5:09:57] end of the day.

[5:09:58] so I'm open to all of that, thank you.

[5:10:00] >> thank you, judge.

[5:10:04] mr. Callagy, would you like to answer

[5:10:07] supervisor mueller's question or

[5:10:10] should we invite deputy county -- or

[5:10:14] county attorney nibbelin, go ahead.

[5:10:15] >> I was going defer to my colleague,

[5:10:18] chief deputy judith holliber, who I

[5:10:21] think can address that issue, maybe a

[5:10:23] couple of other things.

[5:10:24] >> good afternoon, supervisors.

[5:10:27] so, the body, the jjdpc body is a

[5:10:32] little complicated beasts hybrid body,

[5:10:34] so it's combined statutorily mandated

[5:10:37] body under 225 with code 2225 which

[5:10:40] is the jjc component, juvenile

[5:10:43] justice, and then the dpc component is

[5:10:46] an advisory commission to the board

[5:10:49] and they're combined which is why you

[5:10:51] have the appointments that are made by

[5:10:53] the judge and then also ratified by

[5:10:55] the board.

[5:10:58] but the inspections that are done of

[5:11:04] the facilities and the reports on

[5:11:05] those inspections are specifically in

[5:11:06] the code as an obligation of the jjc,

[5:11:08] the statutory body that reports to the

[5:11:11] court.

[5:11:12] so, while the reports go to the board

[5:11:13] and there are recommendations in them,

[5:11:16] it's the court that oversees that

[5:11:19] process of inspecting and receiving

[5:11:21] the reports.

[5:11:22] >> and I just wanted to add that from

[5:11:25] my understanding, judith, and you can

[5:11:28] correct me, the san mateo county board

[5:11:30] of supervisors back in 1974-ish --

[5:11:35] >> somewhere around there, maybe 66 --

[5:11:41] >> 76, passed -- 66, passed an order

[5:11:48] combining the two bodies and created

[5:11:53] the commission as we know it now.

[5:11:54] >> and that is in our ordinance code

[5:11:56] and that is the prerogative of the board

[5:11:58] that is provided for in the code.

[5:12:00] some counties have combined them, some

[5:12:03] counties have not.

[5:12:04] there are other options for the dpc

[5:12:09] portion of that body.

[5:12:11] some have stand alone jjc's.

[5:12:13] >> yes, that is absolutely correct.

[5:12:17] the jjc has somewhat of a limited

[5:12:19] effect in the board at one point in

[5:12:22] time decided to expand that and adopt

[5:12:29] the jjdpc the welfare code 223 and

[5:12:40] combine them.

[5:12:41] that which I think took on even a

[5:12:42] larger role after that, but the duties

[5:12:45] assigned to 225 are somewhat limited

[5:12:47] as I understand it.

[5:12:52] >> supervisor mueller?

[5:12:53] >> yeah so, that's kind of what I was

[5:12:55] getting to in my questions is under

[5:12:58] 225, really the obligation is to do

[5:12:59] the inspections.

[5:13:00] >> correct.

[5:13:02] >> so, if less than -- I mean, in

[5:13:07] 2024, only two people did the

[5:13:08] inspection out of the entire

[5:13:11] commission.

[5:13:12] in 2025, less than half of the

[5:13:13] commissioners did the inspection, so

[5:13:14] to the extent, how is that the

[5:13:20] commission satisfying 225 and what

[5:13:22] weight should we be giving the

[5:13:24] commission's findings if it could be

[5:13:26] swayed with such a small amount of the

[5:13:27] commissioners?

[5:13:28] >> I'm not sure that the code requires

[5:13:30] that all the commissioners do the

[5:13:33] inspections.

[5:13:34] it's the commission's duty to conduct

[5:13:36] them, that's the purview of the

[5:13:38] commission and the court overseeing

[5:13:39] the commission.

[5:13:41] and the code does provide for how many

[5:13:43] members on the commission, but I

[5:13:45] haven't seen neigh says that

[5:13:48] absolutely every single commissioner

[5:13:49] has to participate in the inspections,

[5:13:51] it might be that the -- I think and

[5:13:53] this I will defer to ms. Rasmussen, I

[5:13:56] think the way they do it is select

[5:13:58] people to conduct the actual

[5:14:00] inspections and they bring the

[5:14:01] information back to the commission as

[5:14:02] a whole to do the report, but I'm not

[5:14:07] positive about that part especially

[5:14:10] because that's a part I don't advise on

[5:14:12] really.

[5:14:13] >> okay, and I would suggest to the

[5:14:15] commission in a circumstance like this

[5:14:17] where we are weighing all the

[5:14:19] information coming to us to see a

[5:14:21] report that's only signed by two

[5:14:23] commissioners and only treated the

[5:14:25] inspection doesn't satisfy the

[5:14:28] obligations of 225.

[5:14:29] >> okay.

[5:14:30] thank you.

[5:14:31] >> thank you.

[5:14:33] >> and so I'm going to take some

[5:14:40] privilege here and invite chair

[5:14:43] rasmussen to present on the jjdpc and

[5:14:47] to our partners from fly and live in

[5:14:51] peace, we're going to have you go

[5:14:53] last, thank you for your patience.

[5:14:57] chair rasmussen, please go ahead.

[5:14:58] >> thank you so much, kim, am I

[5:15:01] pressing the white button?

[5:15:03] okay.

[5:15:04] thank you so much for having us here

[5:15:06] again today and for pushing through

[5:15:08] and getting this study session going.

[5:15:12] if you can look around, I'm pretty

[5:15:14] privileged to work with some pretty

[5:15:16] amazing partners who work tirelessly

[5:15:20] to ensure that our young people are

[5:15:22] not only safe but they

[5:15:29] receive services and their lives are

[5:15:30] improved.

[5:15:31] since I was here in december, I'm not

[5:15:32] going spend too much time going back

[5:15:34] over the items that we already shared.

[5:15:37] I'll just provide a brief overview

[5:15:39] which I think answers some of

[5:15:41] supervisor mueller's questions.

[5:15:43] and it also includes the ordinance

[5:15:45] that was referenced by supervisor

[5:15:49] corzo.

[5:15:50] so, legal authority of the joint

[5:15:52] commission, so the juvenile justice

[5:15:54] and delinquency prevention act of 1974

[5:15:58] established national standards for how

[5:16:01] youth in custody were to be tried and

[5:16:04] it also supports local efforts at

[5:16:08] prevention.

[5:16:09] and then san mateo county in 1966

[5:16:12] passed ordinance number 1769 which

[5:16:14] established the delinquency prevention

[5:16:16] commission, the welfare and

[5:16:17] institutions code that was spoken of

[5:16:21] earlier requires that every county

[5:16:24] have a jjc, juvenile justice

[5:16:25] commission, and it authorizes the

[5:16:26] board to create and maintain a

[5:16:28] delinquency prevention commission and

[5:16:30] the county's responsible for paying

[5:16:34] stipends and expenses and our

[5:16:36] commissioner appointments are just as

[5:16:37] we spoke about, they go through the

[5:16:39] courts first and then they come to you

[5:16:40] after that.

[5:16:42] and the same members serve on both

[5:16:46] commissions.

[5:16:47] so, who serves on the jjdpc?

[5:16:50] so, we have individuals with lived

[5:16:54] experience, we have educators, we have

[5:16:57] elected officials, community leaders,

[5:17:00] advocates, youth, last year we had

[5:17:02] five youth commissioners which I was

[5:17:04] very proud of.

[5:17:06] we have painters.

[5:17:07] I, myself, come from a family of four

[5:17:10] generations of law enforcement, my

[5:17:14] family served san francisco and san

[5:17:15] mateo county for over 100 years and

[5:17:18] public safety is our legacy.

[5:17:19] I also had a child 20 years ago who

[5:17:23] went through the juvenile justice

[5:17:24] system and I was one of those parents

[5:17:26] who received that bill when my

[5:17:28] daughter was sent to cya, it was $86 a

[5:17:32] day and that was in 2022 which was

[5:17:36] considerable for a police officer

[5:17:38] family.

[5:17:39] so, we all bring a unique

[5:17:40] perspective to the table in this work

[5:17:44] and I think that our diversity matters.

[5:17:51] we share one common responsibility and

[5:17:54] that is to look independently at how

[5:17:55] our systems are serving young people

[5:17:56] and where we can do better.

[5:17:58] so, getting into our mandates and

[5:18:00] responsibilities, sofa silt

[5:18:02] inspections, so supervisor mueller, we

[5:18:04] conduct about 20 facility inspections

[5:18:06] a year.

[5:18:07] the youth services center and secure

[5:18:11] track inspection takes about four days.

[5:18:13] there are very few members of the

[5:18:15] commission who can take off four days

[5:18:17] of work, four days of school, we can

[5:18:19] only do it during the weekday, during

[5:18:21] certain business hours, that is a

[5:18:25] commitment that is a big facility and

[5:18:27] so we have difficulty finding people

[5:18:29] who can clear those schedules for that

[5:18:32] many number of days to participate.

[5:18:35] each year we encourage people to sign

[5:18:37] up but we also are mindful that people

[5:18:40] may not have that availability and

[5:18:42] they're going to sign up for an

[5:18:44] inspection that would only require

[5:18:45] them to take off one day of work, that

[5:18:47] might be for the canyon oaks facility or

[5:18:50] receiving hope.

[5:18:52] we also have youth who have

[5:18:55] transportation issues and so maybe

[5:18:56] we'll give them the responsibility of

[5:18:58] doing one of the reports.

[5:19:02] they don't require going out to the

[5:19:04] facility where you're doing research

[5:19:06] after what's happening at kafrn glen

[5:19:08] wood, so we do put the sign-ups out

[5:19:13] and people do sign up.

[5:19:16] we're aware of the time commit: we

[5:19:18] prepare the report, we distribute the

[5:19:20] report, it goes before the full

[5:19:22] commission and we discuss it and the

[5:19:25] full commission votes to approve it.

[5:19:26] it then goes to the state of

[5:19:28] california and we provide it to the

[5:19:30] board basically as courtesy because

[5:19:33] you provide the budget for these

[5:19:35] facilities and if there's liability

[5:19:37] involved, it falls on us, the

[5:19:40] taxpayers, the board here so I'm

[5:19:43] hoping I answered the question okay.

[5:19:44] okay.

[5:19:46] alright.

[5:19:47] so, besides facility inspections, we

[5:19:49] work with bscc and oycr to ensure

[5:19:52] compliance with all the things we

[5:19:54] heard about earlier.

[5:19:55] we conduct educational evaluations of

[5:19:57] the programming that's being offered

[5:19:59] in the hall and in secure track.

[5:20:01] we inquire into the administration of

[5:20:03] juvenile court law.

[5:20:08] we make policy recommendation for

[5:20:09] system improvements and then on the

[5:20:10] delinquency prevention side, we're

[5:20:12] responsible for coordinating

[5:20:14] delinquency prevention efforts

[5:20:15] throughout the county.

[5:20:16] we build partnerships with schools

[5:20:18] and organizations that work to prevent

[5:20:20] entry into the juvenile justice system

[5:20:23] in the first place.

[5:20:24] we do a lot of community entrainment

[5:20:27] and outreach, commissioner blanco's

[5:20:30] been instrumental in making

[5:20:32] partnerships with our school districts

[5:20:33] and our superintendents and we go

[5:20:35] and give presentations there, we give

[5:20:37] presentations to civic groups and we

[5:20:39] create resource and guide books for

[5:20:43] parents and families and study the

[5:20:47] root causes of juvenile delinquency

[5:20:51] and recidivism in hopes of improving

[5:20:53] public safety in san mateo county.

[5:20:55] when we came in december, I think we

[5:20:57] said we had ten minutes, I think we

[5:20:59] went over an hour which was really

[5:21:01] amazing, so we highlighted some of the

[5:21:04] issues that probation has

[5:21:08] consistently said they're not in their

[5:21:10] purview to fik.

[5:21:11] for example, the chief as much as he

[5:21:13] might want to provide adequate food or

[5:21:17] food that tastes good, that is really

[5:21:20] correctional health and dietitian,

[5:21:21] everybody has their own space, right,

[5:21:27] so there were issues that we

[5:21:28] elevated, many of which working with

[5:21:29] probation year after year that they

[5:21:31] said, we need help with, procurement

[5:21:32] is one.

[5:21:35] for instance, we had some -- when I

[5:21:38] say we, I mean collectively,

[5:21:40] that's how we work.

[5:21:41] we had some shelving that was on order,

[5:21:44] about five years ago, and that

[5:21:47] shelving went through the procurement

[5:21:48] process but by the time it got

[5:21:50] approved, I think it was earlier this

[5:21:52] year, the company had gone out of

[5:21:53] business so we have to start all over

[5:21:56] again, then they said the weight at

[5:21:58] dpw could be up to would years before

[5:22:00] they could get it installed so being

[5:22:02] able to have some sort of expedited

[5:22:05] procurement process for our juvenile

[5:22:07] facilities would be very helpful not

[5:22:09] only for probation to be able to take

[5:22:11] care of the facility in the way in

[5:22:14] which they want to but it would also

[5:22:18] eliminate these issues with the

[5:22:20] carpets and the painting and the

[5:22:22] things we mentioned to you in december.

[5:22:26] I wanted to touch base on the dental

[5:22:28] care.

[5:22:29] I appreciated the very thorough and

[5:22:32] comprehensive reports that were

[5:22:33] presented here.

[5:22:35] there are -- there were in this last

[5:22:37] inspection cycle long waits for dental

[5:22:39] care, I even had one youth who had a

[5:22:41] court order and waited 8 months with a

[5:22:45] court order to get dental care.

[5:22:47] there are issues within the system

[5:22:48] that we need to elevate.

[5:22:49] that's our responsibility to do so.

[5:22:53] the limited prea compliance, that from

[5:22:55] our perspective was that there was no

[5:22:57] information available on the website

[5:22:58] as far as no policy but the actual

[5:23:01] numbers, the prea numbers, let's say

[5:23:03] the sheriff department has on their

[5:23:07] website.

[5:23:08] lack of confidential reporting options.

[5:23:10] I was happy to hear the chief

[5:23:12] mentioned they were looking at an

[5:23:13] outside number.

[5:23:14] I did look to see after our meeting

[5:23:18] two weeks ago what the reporting

[5:23:20] options were available online,

[5:23:23] supervisor corzo mentioned those, and

[5:23:25] it's a pdf form, so not all youth have

[5:23:28] access to computers in the hall,

[5:23:31] mainly it's just college students, so

[5:23:32] to be able to access the pdf, print

[5:23:37] the pdf, fill out the pdf and e-mail

[5:23:39] it back to probation is cumbersome for

[5:23:44] juveniles when you may not have that

[5:23:46] access.

[5:23:47] your parents may be able to, I have

[5:23:49] messages on my phone from parents

[5:23:51] would say they don't want to go

[5:23:54] through normal channels because they

[5:23:56] feel their child may be retaliated

[5:23:59] against.

[5:24:00] having alternative ways that don't

[5:24:02] involve going through probation would

[5:24:04] be helpful.

[5:24:06] we currently house females with males

[5:24:08] which has its own issues.

[5:24:11] we don't have enough females which is

[5:24:15] a fortunate position to be in but it

[5:24:17] is difficult to house them together.

[5:24:21] so, we have one on the secure track

[5:24:24] unit, sometimes we'll have three, four

[5:24:25] on the other housing units.

[5:24:29] okay.

[5:24:30] and then most recently there's been

[5:24:33] discussion about difficulty in

[5:24:35] accessing funding for our secure track

[5:24:36] youth.

[5:24:37] I know the state has provided I

[5:24:40] believe close to 12 million dollars

[5:24:41] for this prop lacing and -- population

[5:24:44] and there are steps that must be

[5:24:46] taken to access that funding that's

[5:24:48] something we're interested in learning

[5:24:50] more about and wanting to see what

[5:24:52] barriers can be removed so that money

[5:24:54] can be used for the youth and their

[5:24:57] individual rehabilitation plans.

[5:24:59] staffing levelers are always something

[5:25:01] that we bring up and I know that mr.

[5:25:04] wade and I would communicate each

[5:25:07] week, we would communicate and I know

[5:25:10] they are really trying to hire new

[5:25:13] folks.

[5:25:14] they even changed the shift schedules

[5:25:18] to include 312's and 410's to sort of

[5:25:21] -- because everybody's vying for the

[5:25:23] same people.

[5:25:24] so, I think that they're working

[5:25:26] towards that.

[5:25:28] we are seeing a growing number of

[5:25:30] youth who are experiencing housing

[5:25:32] instability, so if a youth stays in

[5:25:36] custody until their 18th birthday and

[5:25:38] their probation is terminated and they

[5:25:40] don't have anywhere to go, we're

[5:25:42] finding out where do we place them,

[5:25:45] we're currently working with samaritan

[5:25:47] house to see how we can build a

[5:25:49] partnership there so we can keep those

[5:25:52] kids off the street.

[5:25:56] so I'll go into now the issues in the

[5:26:00] communities.

[5:26:01] so, there's a lack of robust reentry

[5:26:03] services and support.

[5:26:06] meaning that when my daughter went

[5:26:07] through the system, we have what we

[5:26:09] call wrap around services and it was a

[5:26:11] wrap around program that really did

[5:26:13] just that, it wrapped around the

[5:26:15] family, whatever that looked like, to

[5:26:18] provide them with the intensive

[5:26:19] services they needed to succeed.

[5:26:21] right now we have contracted services

[5:26:24] that are very limited at a recent

[5:26:27] meet, we talked about this and the

[5:26:30] first month could be as little as four

[5:26:33] hours and that four hours is not

[5:26:36] really robust reentry services so

[5:26:38] that's something we're looking to

[5:26:42] improve.

[5:26:43] also transportation into the youth

[5:26:46] services center, samtrans eliminated

[5:26:47] the bus route there and the commission

[5:26:50] lobbied samtrans to consider their

[5:26:52] decision but they said that the

[5:26:54] neighborhood was located in an

[5:26:56] affluent area and that was a factor

[5:26:57] to why the service was can you and so

[5:27:00] we have not been able to restore any

[5:27:04] public transportation up there which

[5:27:06] is critical because that's where youth

[5:27:07] check in with probation, that's where we

[5:27:11] have code, both dependency and

[5:27:13] delinquency court.

[5:27:14] there are a lot of services being

[5:27:19] provided, visiting, things like that,

[5:27:22] challenging accessing services once

[5:27:23] they're out of the community and the

[5:27:24] basic lack of support.

[5:27:27] all of these issues are connected, if

[5:27:29] we look at the community issues, all

[5:27:32] of those are interconnected and if we

[5:27:34] want young people to succeed when they

[5:27:37] leave custody, it's very important

[5:27:39] that these things are in place when

[5:27:41] they walk out the door.

[5:27:43] facility and maintenance, getting back

[5:27:45] to our procurement process and mentioning

[5:27:47] the delays we had with the carpet

[5:27:49] and flooring, much of the damage to

[5:27:52] the carpets has resulted in the change

[5:27:53] of the food services that were

[5:27:55] transferred during the pandemic over

[5:27:59] to the county jail and they're

[5:28:02] heated up, there's ovens and

[5:28:05] refrigerators on the housing unit, you

[5:28:06] can see the extensive food stains and

[5:28:09] whatnot and near the tables where

[5:28:11] the youth eat.

[5:28:12] so I think -- and the facility is

[5:28:15] coming up on 20 years, and I think

[5:28:17] having an open house is a fantastic

[5:28:19] idea.

[5:28:20] but it is a state of the art facility.

[5:28:22] that track, what we have in the

[5:28:24] center, there is a beautiful facility and

[5:28:29] our goal as commission when we raise

[5:28:32] these issues about the maintenance and

[5:28:34] things that need to be done, we want

[5:28:35] to keep it that way.

[5:28:37] we never want to get back to the place

[5:28:39] we were at 21 tower road, so it

[5:28:42] requires maintenance and it is hard to

[5:28:43] believe it's already been 20 years

[5:28:49] but it has, and so just like in our

[5:28:50] own homes, you know, we need to keep

[5:28:51] care of things.

[5:28:55] so, okay, so we've talked about the

[5:28:57] carpets and flooring, the lack of

[5:29:00] personal storage, general housekeeping

[5:29:01] and maintenance.

[5:29:02] one thing I learned in july when we

[5:29:05] went for our most recent inspection,

[5:29:08] commissioner paten and I, I learned we

[5:29:10] do not have a housekeeping contract in

[5:29:12] place for the juveniles or some of the

[5:29:15] youth are the ones who perform all the

[5:29:18] housekeeping which is fine but it kind

[5:29:20] of also expands why we don't have --

[5:29:23] things aren't deep cleaned and I don't

[5:29:26] know how they ever been trained to

[5:29:28] clean, you know, my children have

[5:29:31] chores at home but cleaning a facility

[5:29:34] of that size I think is worthy of a

[5:29:37] contract, just to ensure we're doing a

[5:29:39] deep clean.

[5:29:40] I know there is a contract in place

[5:29:42] for the administrative offices and

[5:29:44] the lobbies and things like that, and

[5:29:45] I believe I spoke with mr. Wade and

[5:29:50] ms. Ramirez during the inspection to

[5:29:51] see about ways that we can expand that

[5:29:54] contract to include some deep cleaning

[5:29:58] there.

[5:30:02] commission challenges, some challenges

[5:30:04] we faced is with our annual inspection

[5:30:06] report, we send them over to the board

[5:30:08] each year as courtesy for the reasons

[5:30:10] I explained and we very seldom get

[5:30:14] feedback.

[5:30:15] we were really happy in december when

[5:30:17] we gott feedback and we were invited

[5:30:19] by supervisor canepa who was our

[5:30:21] liaison for probably more than a

[5:30:24] decade, yeah, so, okay, and then

[5:30:26] inclusion.

[5:30:27] sometimes we find out after the fact

[5:30:29] really important decisions have been

[5:30:31] made or there's discussions happening

[5:30:33] or planning and we don't know about it

[5:30:35] and here we are, this board of

[5:30:39] volunteers, unpaid volunteers, who

[5:30:40] dedicate their time and expertise to

[5:30:44] benefit the youth so we'd like a seat

[5:30:46] at the table.

[5:30:48] commissioner stipends and

[5:30:50] commissions also covered in welfare

[5:30:51] and institution 231, those have not

[5:30:53] been provided as long as I have been

[5:30:56] on the commission.

[5:30:57] there is a code that states that

[5:30:59] commissioners will receive a stipend

[5:31:01] for attending meetings and their

[5:31:02] expenses will be covered but we've

[5:31:06] never received that.

[5:31:09] in other counties, they've give than

[5:31:12] money to help commissioners in

[5:31:14] transportation, that was something we

[5:31:15] brought to the board maybe three years

[5:31:21] ago and at that time, I believe the

[5:31:23] president was mr. Slocum, he said

[5:31:26] that's not?

[5:31:27] >> the county was interested in doing

[5:31:29] but it is in the welfare and

[5:31:31] institutions code as a mandate.

[5:31:35] yes?

[5:31:36] so, and that is for the delinquency

[5:31:40] prevention.

[5:31:41] communication gaps and coordination

[5:31:42] and information sharing, commission

[5:31:44] funding, our commission doesn't have a

[5:31:46] budget, you heard back in december how

[5:31:48] much we self-fund and buy things on

[5:31:50] our own during the pandemic, we were

[5:31:52] using my own zoom account to conduct

[5:31:56] meetings.

[5:31:57] access to information.

[5:31:58] it is a challenge to obtain

[5:32:00] information and data to carry out our

[5:32:03] oversight responsibilities.

[5:32:07] accomplishments.

[5:32:08] we have a handbook, how to help your

[5:32:10] child after an arrest and that sits

[5:32:13] in the lobby of the juvenile hall,

[5:32:17] private defender's office, and we

[5:32:19] are in the process of updating that

[5:32:21] now and we found someone who's willing

[5:32:24] to donate their services in tongva,

[5:32:28] we will have it in three separate

[5:32:31] languages.

[5:32:33] we did the elevate voting rights

[5:32:40] program.

[5:32:43] there was supervisor speier that

[5:32:44] offered to get the 12 laptops.

[5:32:46] I want to be clear that the laptops we

[5:32:49] provide youth and the chief and I had

[5:32:53] a conversation about this, our kids

[5:32:55] who have been released from the

[5:32:58] facility do not have any technology

[5:33:00] and are enrolled in college and wish

[5:33:02] to continue.

[5:33:03] we provide them with laptops.

[5:33:05] >> I'm going to ask you to finish out

[5:33:08] your presentation.

[5:33:09] I don't want to address a specific

[5:33:11] board member, I want us to get through

[5:33:13] to the end here and we'll have board

[5:33:16] questions and keep it moving.

[5:33:18] >> the laptop initiative is -- okay,

[5:33:21] suited for success and then the peer

[5:33:23] program, the commission raised 680

[5:33:26] thousand dollars for the peer point

[5:33:29] program which we can't administer

[5:33:32] programs so we put fly in touch with

[5:33:35] those funders and they handle that

[5:33:38] contract.

[5:33:39] we are recognized as statewide

[5:33:41] leaders, I founded the california

[5:33:44] juvenile justice collaborative, I sit

[5:33:45] on the advisory group for sacramento

[5:33:50] for policy and legislative

[5:33:52] subcommittee and commissioner blanco

[5:33:53] sit on the oycr.

[5:34:05] we do policy reform, educational

[5:34:10] pansies is one that we've been working

[5:34:12] with the county office of education.

[5:34:14] superintendent marco

[5:34:17] chavez, we discovered we weren't in

[5:34:19] compliance with educational transition

[5:34:21] plan.

[5:34:22] what that means is any youth who's

[5:34:24] incarcerated over 30 days is required

[5:34:25] to have a plan on how they're going

[5:34:29] to get into school, enroll, what's

[5:34:31] going to happen, we are act timely

[5:34:33] working on that, they've worked on an

[5:34:36] mou with probation.

[5:34:38] protecting youth confidentiality, I

[5:34:39] spoke on that earlier.

[5:34:41] the strip searches, I just wanted to

[5:34:44] make one clarification, I do have a

[5:34:46] report in my hand that was sent to me

[5:34:48] by the office of youth and community

[5:34:50] restoration who investigated that

[5:34:52] incident and found the allegations to

[5:34:55] be substantiated so I have a copy of

[5:34:57] that report for clarity.

[5:35:04] visiting, after the youth bill of

[5:35:06] rights was passed, we went in and

[5:35:08] talked with then presiding judge susan

[5:35:13] about sibling visiting, we got that

[5:35:15] put through, we reduced the wait time

[5:35:18] for eyeglasses by elevating the issue,

[5:35:20] it used to take up to a year to get a

[5:35:22] pair of eyeglasses and now the wait

[5:35:24] time is about 30 days.

[5:35:26] and the youth have pillows, okay.

[5:35:34] so, some of our delinquency prevention

[5:35:38] work, that's what I'm going to show

[5:35:42] you this video , in january, we held

[5:35:47] our prevention and youth voices

[5:35:48] conference, I saw supervisor mueller

[5:35:50] there, he took the time, thank you so

[5:35:52] much for being there, that meant a

[5:35:54] lot, we didn't gate chance to talk, I

[5:35:56] appreciate you being there.

[5:35:57] but we created a video of the day that

[5:36:03] shows just the level of collaboration

[5:36:06] and work that went into this event and

[5:36:10] I think I will go ahead and share that

[5:36:12] now.

[5:36:13] ( playing video ).

[5:38:59] >> chair rasmussen, do you know how

[5:39:00] much longer this is?

[5:39:03] >> [inaudible].

[5:39:33] >> we've been going through two and a

[5:39:39] half hours now and we have a lot of

[5:39:40] items to go through.

[5:39:41] >> so, this video for those who are

[5:39:43] interested is available on our

[5:39:46] website, so it was a huge event.

[5:39:49] we raised over 30 thousand dollars,

[5:39:52] commissioner blanco, to put that

[5:39:53] together, it was sponsored by project

[5:39:56] change and the community colleges so

[5:39:58] we're proud of that work and we'll be

[5:40:04] sending you an invitation for a year

[5:40:06] coming up.

[5:40:07] when we were there in july for the

[5:40:09] inspection, it was noted that under

[5:40:15] the title 15 nutritional guidelines,

[5:40:16] it showed that we were not in

[5:40:19] compliance with menus and that the

[5:40:21] nutritional values had not been

[5:40:23] established and I understand through

[5:40:28] talking with them today, that the lady

[5:40:32] who's responsible for developing those

[5:40:34] menus and for signing off they meet

[5:40:38] the nutritional values has been out on

[5:40:40] a medical.

[5:40:41] I wanted to mention that.

[5:40:42] that is the extent of my presentation

[5:40:44] today.

[5:40:45] >> okay, do we have questions from the

[5:40:48] board?

[5:40:49] >> supervisor mueller?

[5:40:50] >> I do have a question.

[5:40:51] so, you mentioned that it takes a

[5:40:57] course of four days for all of the

[5:40:58] commissioners to do all of the

[5:41:01] inspections or just four day fords for

[5:41:04] the juvenile hall.

[5:41:05] >> yes, for the juvenile hall, they

[5:41:06] are on one campus but they are on two

[5:41:09] distinct facilities.

[5:41:10] >> how long does it take to do all the

[5:41:12] inspections for all the facilities?

[5:41:14] >> we start the process in july and we

[5:41:20] wrap up by the end of the year.

[5:41:24] >> and about how many commissioners

[5:41:26] are doing each of the inspections?

[5:41:28] >> well, commissioners, we ask they

[5:41:31] sign up for at least two and our

[5:41:35] numbers are lower than sometimes --

[5:41:39] then sometimes we need them to sign up

[5:41:41] for three.

[5:41:42] >> for each of the facilities in the

[5:41:44] county then, are there somewhere

[5:41:46] between three and four commissioners

[5:41:48] -- let me ask you this, is there any

[5:41:50] facility in the county that there's a

[5:41:52] majority of the commission to put the

[5:41:54] inspection together?

[5:41:55] >> no.

[5:41:56] and most of the time, that isn't

[5:41:58] something that the facility would like

[5:42:00] for us to show up with ten people I.

[5:42:02] doesn't really take that to do the

[5:42:04] inspection.

[5:42:05] we try and rotate and give everybody

[5:42:08] an opportunity to serve on whatever

[5:42:12] inspection team they want to, but to

[5:42:14] show up -- I know even for graduation

[5:42:17] events, probation has requested

[5:42:19] no more than three, so it's just a

[5:42:22] matter of how things work that way,

[5:42:25] but no, we share the work.

[5:42:27] that's how we do it.

[5:42:29] and then everybody weighs in,

[5:42:31] everybody votes to approve.

[5:42:33] >> alright, so earlier you said that

[5:42:36] people couldn't get the four days off

[5:42:42] to juvenile hall and additionally

[5:42:45] to that, it's your belief that the

[5:42:47] facility doesn't want more than four

[5:42:48] people?

[5:42:49] >> well, I think we should ask --

[5:42:52] that's just in my experience.

[5:42:55] the most we've ever had on the team is

[5:42:58] four but I think the best person to

[5:43:00] ask is the chief on how many -- if

[5:43:06] he'd like all ten of us to come, I

[5:43:07] don't know that we could achieve that,

[5:43:09] but we could ask him.

[5:43:12] >> chief, do you have a problem with

[5:43:13] all ten going?

[5:43:18] thank you.

[5:43:19] okay, I'm going to go ahead, I do want

[5:43:20] to try to figure this out because it's

[5:43:21] for two years in a row, it's been a

[5:43:22] very small number of people who did

[5:43:25] the inspects and like I said in that

[5:43:27] one year, three did it and only

[5:43:29] two signed.

[5:43:31] I'm not sure ms. Woke didn't sign that

[5:43:34] year?

[5:43:35] >> she left the commission by the time

[5:43:36] the report was issued and she had

[5:43:38] already left the commission.

[5:43:40] she had termed out.

[5:43:41] >> thank you.

[5:43:42] >> this year we had three,

[5:43:44] commissioner bocanegra, [inaudible], and

[5:43:46] commissioner paten.

[5:43:47] >> so, only three did the inspection

[5:43:49] the this year?

[5:43:50] >> for one we just did in july.

[5:43:52] >> okay, thank you.

[5:43:53] >> you're welcome.

[5:43:54] >> okay, any other questions?

[5:43:58] okay, I have several.

[5:44:03] okay.

[5:44:04] I'm going to start -- you know, I

[5:44:06] think we heard you reference a lot of

[5:44:14] state laws and make a lot of

[5:44:17] statements about how our county is out

[5:44:20] of compliance with funding the

[5:44:23] commission and specifically making

[5:44:25] statements and you are the chair of

[5:44:29] this commission, so I want to address

[5:44:33] like what it looks like to the public

[5:44:35] when the chair of a commission makes

[5:44:38] statements that the county is out of

[5:44:43] compliance and not providing --

[5:44:47] creating the appearance that we are

[5:44:49] not refunding a commission for

[5:44:54] essentially incurring expenses that

[5:44:55] were never approved and not refunding

[5:44:58] that to a chair or a commission, so

[5:45:00] let me be more clear.

[5:45:01] specifically for our welfare

[5:45:08] institution code 231, you shared that

[5:45:11] this county does not provide that

[5:45:13] funding and so I would like county

[5:45:17] attorney nibbelin and maybe deputy

[5:45:22] county attorney holliber to kind of

[5:45:23] give us some perspective on that,

[5:45:26] are we violating welfare institution

[5:45:28] code 231 by not providing --

[5:45:29] >> stipends.

[5:45:32] >> stipends to these commissioners?

[5:45:34] >> no, I don't think we are.

[5:45:36] section 231 of the welfare

[5:45:38] institutions code does provide that

[5:45:40] members of the jjc are entitled to

[5:45:43] have expenses that are necessary and

[5:45:46] reasonable reimbursed.

[5:45:49] when claims for reimbursement are made.

[5:45:51] and it also states that in the

[5:45:54] alternative, a county could provide

[5:45:57] for a stipend but there's no

[5:45:58] requirement that there be a stipend,

[5:46:03] so it's really a question of whether

[5:46:05] or not we receive proper claims for

[5:46:06] reimbursement for necessary expenses.

[5:46:07] >> okay.

[5:46:09] and so I want to address this because

[5:46:13] this creates a distraction from

[5:46:16] serving the young people, it creates

[5:46:18] this claim that our county is doing

[5:46:22] wrong by the commissioners and is

[5:46:24] violating the law and thus creates

[5:46:31] this kind of this insinuation that we

[5:46:34] are violating the rights of young

[5:46:36] people and that is something that I

[5:46:39] would hope wouldn't repeatedly happen

[5:46:41] but I think it's something that --

[5:46:43] it's something that has repeatedly

[5:46:45] happened.

[5:46:46] and then --

[5:46:47] >> it is our understanding --

[5:46:48] >> I'm not done, I'm sorry, one second.

[5:46:50] the other thing -- and I'll give you

[5:46:53] a chance to respond.

[5:46:55] the other thing I wanted to bring

[5:46:59] attention to, the statement that you

[5:47:00] made about the fact that the

[5:47:03] commission has incurred a lot of

[5:47:09] expenses, that some commissioners have

[5:47:11] incurred a lot of expenses that the

[5:47:13] county has not reimbursed

[5:47:14] commissioners for.

[5:47:15] the county does not reimburse

[5:47:17] commissioners for expenses that were

[5:47:20] never approved beforehand by the

[5:47:22] county and they don't even do that for

[5:47:25] staff.

[5:47:26] >> I never made that claim, supervisor.

[5:47:28] >> I'm pretty sure we all heard you

[5:47:30] say that, so go ahead and you can

[5:47:34] respond now but we've

[5:47:37] never -- we have asked for the county

[5:47:40] support in providing money for awards

[5:47:42] for outgoing commissioners such as

[5:47:46] commissioner susan swope who is our

[5:47:48] longest servicing commissioner of all

[5:47:51] time, but we don't submit for expenses

[5:47:53] and it was our understanding, we had a

[5:47:54] whole project that went into this back

[5:47:56] in -- three years ago about the

[5:47:59] welfare and institutions code and it

[5:48:00] was our understanding and through my

[5:48:01] work on the statewide commissions that

[5:48:05] other countess do receive that $25

[5:48:08] stipend per meeting up to two meetings

[5:48:09] which I think is outlined in the

[5:48:13] welfare and institutions code, but

[5:48:15] remember, we're community volunteers

[5:48:16] so we're not attorneys.

[5:48:19] and so we -- that was our

[5:48:21] interpretation, so much so we brought

[5:48:23] it to the board in the past to try and

[5:48:25] resolve it.

[5:48:27] >> okay, well, if you're not an

[5:48:28] attorney, you should not speak as if

[5:48:30] you are directly quoting law as if you

[5:48:33] know exactly what the law says.

[5:48:36] >> I believe it says that.

[5:48:37] >> I believe that's the responsibility

[5:48:40] as a chair of a commission that

[5:48:42] represents this county to not create

[5:48:44] the false illusion that that's what

[5:48:47] you're claiming as the truth.

[5:48:49] I'm going to pass it over to

[5:48:52] commissioner -- I mean, supervisor

[5:48:55] canepa?

[5:48:56] >> thank you so much.

[5:48:57] I've had the honor to serve with the

[5:48:58] commission for ten years.

[5:49:00] I worked -- I think we worked really

[5:49:02] well together, right, john.

[5:49:04] we have, and I think the good thing is

[5:49:06] what I have seen over the ten years is

[5:49:09] it's a good, healthy

[5:49:14] tension, sometimes you do certain

[5:49:15] things and it may not be status quo

[5:49:19] but what we're able to do -- and chief

[5:49:23] keene, I think you can attest to this,

[5:49:25] he does listen, right.

[5:49:26] >> he does.

[5:49:27] >> and if you look at the things,

[5:49:29] I think one of the things I was

[5:49:31] thinking about chief keene, I showed

[5:49:34] supervisor gauthier this, was sb90, we

[5:49:39] were able to work with the commission,

[5:49:41] with the department, we had 12.4

[5:49:44] million dollars and we worked

[5:49:47] collaboratively and collect I beverly

[5:49:51] beverly -- collectively to solve it

[5:49:52] so there is this built in tension, you

[5:49:55] have to recognize that but I look at

[5:49:58] the progress we've made, it's been

[5:50:00] great.

[5:50:01] now I do want to say this and I have

[5:50:04] to -- I'm not trying to come to

[5:50:11] ms. Rasmussen's defense, but I think

[5:50:13] you really care.

[5:50:15] I mean, you ran out of your pocket,

[5:50:20] she didn't seek reimbursement, I think

[5:50:21] there was a member of the board who

[5:50:24] said we should reimburse, so I think

[5:50:26] the record has to reflect that.

[5:50:30] I have no issue with you, joanne, I

[5:50:34] have no issue with the members.

[5:50:37] I think your hearts are in the right

[5:50:39] place.

[5:50:40] you care for these kids, you shouldn't

[5:50:42] be faulted for that.

[5:50:43] you should not with faulted for that,

[5:50:46] and as we move forward and I think

[5:50:49] being the longest standing member of

[5:50:52] the board here, it works out in a

[5:50:55] strange way having this commission,

[5:50:58] while you guys can be a little bit

[5:51:01] troublesome at times in a good way, I

[5:51:04] think you guys bringing these issues

[5:51:09] forward makes the hall stronger and it

[5:51:12] makes them -- the kids feel someone

[5:51:14] they can talk to as advocates and I

[5:51:16] think it's important, it's a part of

[5:51:18] the process, it's messy, but I think

[5:51:21] it's important and so I'm glad we're

[5:51:23] having this study session and you've

[5:51:27] got to -- you have to have faith and I

[5:51:28] have seen it over the period of ten

[5:51:30] years, you haven't got everything, the

[5:51:33] commission hasn't got everything

[5:51:34] they've wanted.

[5:51:35] that's not a bad thing but

[5:51:38] there has been progress and I do think

[5:51:41] that this commission is really

[5:51:42] important, you have done some valuable

[5:51:44] work.

[5:51:45] plaid dam chair?

[5:51:46] >> thank you so much, supervisor, we

[5:51:47] appreciate all the years we've worked

[5:51:49] together, thank you for those comments.

[5:51:52] >> supervisor speier and then mueller.

[5:51:58] >> I think there are a lot of

[5:52:01] wonderful people very committed to

[5:52:03] these kids on the comprising and --

[5:52:08] commission and within the probation

[5:52:10] department.

[5:52:11] I can't begin to tell you how

[5:52:12] impressed I was.

[5:52:14] I'm still unclear about this this

[5:52:16] reimbursement issue.

[5:52:17] if in fact they file a claim for

[5:52:21] meetings or for what else, travel

[5:52:24] expense, I mean, what is it they can

[5:52:26] file for, and if -- this is in the

[5:52:29] law, so other commissions don't have

[5:52:31] that benefit, but if it's in the law

[5:52:33] and they file a claim, they will be

[5:52:36] reimbursed?

[5:52:37] >> if it is for expenses that are

[5:52:39] deemed necessary and appropriate for

[5:52:41] the operation of the commission, the

[5:52:42] answer to that, yeah, I think,

[5:52:44] supervisor, would be yes, but we do

[5:52:47] have processes in the county for the

[5:52:49] means by which people make claims for

[5:52:51] work that they do that is necessary

[5:52:53] and related to their employment for

[5:52:55] example, and similarly for work has

[5:52:57] you might do as commissioner.

[5:52:59] so, we would assess I think the claims

[5:53:01] and work with the controller on the

[5:53:03] claims if we got them along similar

[5:53:06] lioness but that's a process we would

[5:53:08] be looking at.

[5:53:09] I'm not aware we've gotten claims that

[5:53:11] have been denied.

[5:53:12] >> I think the best thing for you to

[5:53:14] do is have a conversation with the

[5:53:15] controller to find out what tends to

[5:53:18] be acceptable if I believe that the

[5:53:22] commissioners have claims that aren't

[5:53:25] reimbursed in and the welfare

[5:53:28] institutions code provides for it.

[5:53:29] >> thank you very much.

[5:53:31] >> supervisor mueller?

[5:53:32] >> yeah, I appreciate your comments,

[5:53:34] supervisor canepa and supervisor

[5:53:36] speier and ms. Rasmussen, I'm not

[5:53:39] finding fault with you, what I'm

[5:53:42] struggling with, I think the process

[5:53:44] is messy but I don't think it

[5:53:45] should continue the way it has.

[5:53:47] I think it needs cleaning up.

[5:53:50] this has spilled over into these

[5:53:53] chambers multiple times and today we

[5:53:55] have spent an inordinate amount of

[5:53:58] time on it and because of the way it's

[5:54:01] been presented process wise, they're

[5:54:02] not entirely clear to me.

[5:54:04] I would respectfully indicate to the

[5:54:08] commission, you need to get more

[5:54:09] people engaged in those inspections

[5:54:11] and have more voices than yourself

[5:54:13] presenting them, ms. Rasmussen, you

[5:54:15] are a wonderful advocate, but there

[5:54:20] needs to be -- and I need to see other

[5:54:22] commissioners in the writing of that

[5:54:24] report.

[5:54:25] as you have seen today, there are many

[5:54:26] people who have come forward who have

[5:54:28] presented a lot of information and

[5:54:29] when I look at your report and I see

[5:54:33] over two reporters your signature of

[5:54:35] those two reports are about 40% of the

[5:54:37] signatures, you can see where my

[5:54:40] camber on the weight of what's being

[5:54:41] presented of this this could be from

[5:54:44] one point of view and you want to add

[5:54:46] more points of view to that to provide

[5:54:48] weight to it.

[5:54:50] I think it's -- I frankly think 225

[5:54:53] requires more with respect to the

[5:54:55] inspection of duty and how it's being

[5:54:58] carried out, at least in good faith

[5:55:00] with how 225 was written.

[5:55:02] so, I really want to go ahead and talk

[5:55:04] to -- I don't know, and that's the

[5:55:09] other thing I have issue right now

[5:55:10] with, I don't really understand would

[5:55:11] who the entity is that has oversight

[5:55:12] of how the commission conducts itself

[5:55:15] with respect to --

[5:55:16] >> we provide our reports to bscc.

[5:55:20] >> okay, well, I would like to figure

[5:55:23] out with county counsel how we can

[5:55:24] work with you to clarify that process

[5:55:26] to make your life and our life easier.

[5:55:29] >> they've always -- craig

[5:55:31] thompson is our representative, he's

[5:55:34] been helpful and he always gives us

[5:55:36] good feedback that our reports are

[5:55:38] helpful and they conduct biannual,

[5:55:40] every two years, and he's commented

[5:55:42] our reports are very helpful to him.

[5:55:44] >> I want to also be very clear, what is

[5:55:47] clear to me is our professionals

[5:55:50] within are doing a tremendous job in

[5:55:52] difficult situations.

[5:55:54] the numbers, the change, when I look

[5:55:56] at the change, what happened in 2021

[5:55:59] after realignment in terms of

[5:56:04] incidents, how that affected our

[5:56:06] professionals at the hall, realignment

[5:56:09] had major impact.

[5:56:10] I was looking at that chart trying to

[5:56:12] figure out what it was and that's

[5:56:15] exactly when realignment happened, the

[5:56:17] level of offender you have seen and

[5:56:18] the challenges you have seen has

[5:56:21] changed significantly, so I think we

[5:56:22] values to provide some empathy in that

[5:56:24] circumstance and I think process will

[5:56:27] help us really sort of instead of

[5:56:29] having what really feels like a

[5:56:32] yelling match happening here, they're

[5:56:35] getting yelled at and trying to

[5:56:36] respond, if we provide more process to

[5:56:38] it, perhaps we can provide more

[5:56:40] clarity on what needs to be addressed

[5:56:42] in a way where we're not trying to

[5:56:44] pull needles out of the hay stack.

[5:56:47] thank you though, all, if for the

[5:56:48] presentations today.

[5:56:50] they were incredibly helpful and

[5:56:52] trying to figure out what comes next

[5:56:54] on that process perspective.

[5:56:56] >> thank you, supervisor gauthier?

[5:56:57] >> I want to thank you for your

[5:56:59] report but I do just have some

[5:57:01] questions going back to the december

[5:57:05] presentation.

[5:57:06] my memory serves me correctly, there

[5:57:07] was 70 thousand dollars that was spent

[5:57:10] that you weren't reimbursed for.

[5:57:13] there's procurement question too, so

[5:57:16] there's a way that the facility does

[5:57:21] procurement, so you should have

[5:57:22] approval before you go out and

[5:57:23] purchase things, is that not the way

[5:57:24] things would be set up?

[5:57:25] >> I never saw reimbursement, it was

[5:57:28] never my intention.

[5:57:29] I just happened to mention it to day

[5:57:31] vid and he was blown away by the

[5:57:35] number.

[5:57:36] david elevated that.

[5:57:37] I was -- it waser supervisor canepa, I

[5:57:39] was not looking for any reimbursement

[5:57:42] whatsoever.

[5:57:43] >> I'm trying to figure out the

[5:57:46] procurement process for the youth that

[5:57:47] were in the facility.

[5:57:49] is it anybody that can go purchase

[5:57:50] something on your own or should you go

[5:57:52] through the facility and have a

[5:57:54] procurement process.

[5:57:55] if somebody needs shoes, shouldn't

[5:57:57] that go through the facilities, they're

[5:57:59] able to purchase shoes before

[5:58:01] someone just purchases shoes and says

[5:58:03] the facility isn't doing their job?

[5:58:05] >> I think we're talking about a

[5:58:07] bigger issue.

[5:58:08] so, we're talking -- there were times

[5:58:11] when eyeglasses were taking a long

[5:58:12] time and I would go to costco and get

[5:58:15] the prescription fill sod the kids

[5:58:17] could have glasses for school, that

[5:58:21] happened mull multiple times but for

[5:58:23] the vast majority of incidents and

[5:58:25] expenses are when they are out of the

[5:58:29] facility, there's small number of kids

[5:58:30] in the facility.

[5:58:31] this is when they're out on the

[5:58:34] street, mom's having trouble paying

[5:58:35] for rent, maybe utilities are

[5:58:37] getting shut off, they don't have a

[5:58:39] clipper card or trance oration to get

[5:58:41] to school, they don't have school

[5:58:43] clothes so I just took it upon myself,

[5:58:45] not in my capacity as a commissioner

[5:58:49] but as human being that recognized a

[5:58:54] fundamental need that I filled.

[5:58:55] >> I understand, but I think it was

[5:58:56] presented differently or that's the

[5:58:59] way I understood it, it wasn't

[5:59:00] presented that these youth were

[5:59:02] outside of facility, it felt like they

[5:59:04] were in the facility and they were not

[5:59:07] receiving the items that they needed.

[5:59:09] that's what we were trying to get to

[5:59:11] the bottom of.

[5:59:12] it's very different if you come in and

[5:59:14] say these young people are already

[5:59:15] home and I'm helping them, again in

[5:59:17] december, it felt like they were in

[5:59:19] the facilities and not getting shoes and

[5:59:22] any other things they were getting in

[5:59:24] the facility.

[5:59:27] >> I appreciate for that feedback, I

[5:59:29] appreciate that, I'm not used to

[5:59:32] giving these presentations.

[5:59:34] >> so, I do want to -- in putting

[5:59:37] together this study session, we put a

[5:59:39] lot of thought into making sure that

[5:59:41] there would be a lot of different

[5:59:44] perspectives about the entire system,

[5:59:46] we have typically heard from one side

[5:59:47] and I do want to acknowledge that

[5:59:50] supervisor canepa was a liaison to the

[5:59:54] jjdpc for many, many years and when I

[5:59:57] took it over, I did so with the

[5:59:59] intention of working more closely with

[6:00:01] the commission, I'll be honest, you

[6:00:06] may hear a sense of frustration coming

[6:00:08] from me and I'll be upfront about

[6:00:12] it, it is there and I won't pretend

[6:00:14] it's not.

[6:00:15] part of that has been something that I

[6:00:18] think supervisor mueller without us

[6:00:20] ever speaking about this has picked up

[6:00:22] on and that is that there is a real

[6:00:25] tension when it comes to this

[6:00:27] commission and frankly the leadership

[6:00:28] of this commission

[6:00:35] and the tension and not a single

[6:00:37] person interacting with

[6:00:39] this commission, and I would take the

[6:00:41] liberty of saying almost all community

[6:00:43] partners and county departments feel

[6:00:47] when trying to collaborate with this

[6:00:51] commission.

[6:00:52] I have been personally to several of

[6:00:55] the meetings and when I have attended

[6:01:00] and tried to -- as a supervisor, come

[6:01:02] to this commission and tried to work

[6:01:05] with this commission have felt like I

[6:01:08] am being interrogated, have seen other

[6:01:11] community partners be anxious about

[6:01:14] speaking with the commission because

[6:01:15] of that same treatment and in trying

[6:01:19] to support this commission, we sent

[6:01:21] out a survey about two weeks ago and

[6:01:26] this survey was I would say very

[6:01:29] open-ended, where do you need more

[6:01:31] training, where do you need support,

[6:01:33] do you understand the mission of your

[6:01:36] commission, do you understand -- like,

[6:01:39] do you need like -- you know, what are

[6:01:44] areas you want to explore more, what

[6:01:46] are things you need.

[6:01:48] we haven't gotten a single response

[6:01:50] back and my understanding is that it

[6:01:54] has been -- there have been meetings

[6:01:57] potentially in violation of the brown

[6:01:58] act happening to discuss this survey

[6:02:03] and to have one single response from

[6:02:06] the entire commission instead of

[6:02:08] commissioners engaging in just a

[6:02:11] genuine feedback process and working

[6:02:12] with the board and that's problematic.

[6:02:16] it really is.

[6:02:18] I want this commission to work

[6:02:21] collaboratively and to serve young

[6:02:24] people in true partnership with every

[6:02:27] other community partner.

[6:02:28] I think it's possible.

[6:02:29] I want us to get there.

[6:02:32] and I was hoping that during this

[6:02:34] presentation, that we could put some

[6:02:37] of the digs aside but I believe they

[6:02:43] still have come up and it makes me

[6:02:46] feel a little defensive and I think

[6:02:49] that's what has come up.

[6:02:53] >> supervisor, if I could address the

[6:02:56] survey.

[6:02:57] we met as a juvenile justice

[6:02:58] commission which is not -- doesn't

[6:02:59] have to comply with the brown act to

[6:03:02] decide how --

[6:03:03] >> but there is no juvenile justice

[6:03:05] commission, there's a jjdpc,.

[6:03:08] >> we're two separate bodies with

[6:03:10] two separate mandates but we also hold

[6:03:13] separate meetings as a jjc and we have

[6:03:16] done that and we hold closed sessions,

[6:03:19] some jjc's only meet in private so we

[6:03:21] did not violate the brown act but this

[6:03:24] was -- the survey came as joint

[6:03:27] commission survey, so we needed to

[6:03:28] look at what that was going to look

[6:03:30] like because it was an evaluation of

[6:03:33] -- it wasn't specific about which

[6:03:37] mandates and responsibilities it was

[6:03:39] seeking information for, so it's on

[6:03:41] our agenda for tonight because we can

[6:03:44] -- now that the jjc has decided this

[6:03:47] needs to be a delinquency

[6:03:50] prevention survey, we can only discuss

[6:03:52] it in public under delinquency

[6:03:54] prevention and it's on tonight's

[6:03:55] agenda, so we try very hard to comply

[6:03:58] with the rules.

[6:04:00] and I apologize if my words come

[6:04:03] across as digs.

[6:04:04] to me, they are truth and to me, I

[6:04:09] speak them, I bring them here because

[6:04:12] I'm concerned.

[6:04:15] >> madam president, can we move on.

[6:04:19] >> yes, let's move on.

[6:04:21] >> we now will welcome fly and live in

[6:04:27] peace and then I think chief keene

[6:04:29] wants to close us out.

[6:04:30] so I don't have names for -- yeah, we

[6:04:38] have public comment as well.

[6:04:39] welcome, sorry.

[6:04:40] >> no, I'm good.

[6:04:43] alright.

[6:04:46] hi, I am melissa pulling and I'm the

[6:04:48] managing director of innovation at fly

[6:04:49] or fresh lifelines for youth, on a

[6:04:52] personal note, I'm going to make this

[6:04:56] the fastest version of what fly does in

[6:04:59] history, fly, if you will, we

[6:05:03] do a lot in san mateo county and have

[6:05:05] for many years and we'll do an

[6:05:07] overview in this presentation.

[6:05:08] aim born and raised in san mateo

[6:05:10] county and honored and privileged to

[6:05:11] have done this work for as long as I

[6:05:15] have.

[6:05:19] okay.

[6:05:20] fresh lifelines for youth or fly is a

[6:05:22] non-profit and has been operating --

[6:05:29] it started in 2000 down the road.

[6:05:33] this is to disrupt the pipeline to

[6:05:36] prison and advance justice in

[6:05:37] california and beyond.

[6:05:38] this is what we do every day, these

[6:05:42] are our young people, this is what

[6:05:44] we're in the pursuit of excellence for.

[6:05:47] we are in five counties across the bay,

[6:05:51] I'm speaking specifically about san

[6:05:52] mateo county.

[6:05:54] this is a rudimentary school to prison

[6:05:57] pipeline, you can see in san mateo

[6:05:58] county, we have six different

[6:06:00] programs that are meant to be offer

[6:06:02] ramps of this pipeline.

[6:06:03] the first three are specifically

[6:06:05] prevention programs, we want young

[6:06:07] people to interact with us here to

[6:06:08] never enter the system at all.

[6:06:10] this is where we serve a large

[6:06:11] majority of our young people and the

[6:06:16] leadership programs, the last three

[6:06:17] entry reps are all programs and run

[6:06:21] as interventions when young people

[6:06:22] have come across with the pipeline.

[6:06:24] we served over 750 young people last

[6:06:27] year alone in this county

[6:06:28] specifically, there's some outcomes

[6:06:33] we're proud of.

[6:06:34] not because of fly necessarily but

[6:06:35] because of the young people and the

[6:06:36] work that shows the work they've put

[6:06:38] in, these are assessments to show

[6:06:40] reduction of need, a lack of new

[6:06:44] charges, recidivism, increase in their

[6:06:46] educational goals and building their

[6:06:48] social and emotional skills.

[6:06:50] I'll just put this slide up briefly,

[6:06:53] just to show we partner across the

[6:06:55] entire county.

[6:06:57] we are everywhere as you can see,

[6:06:58] there's a long list of partners, we

[6:07:00] partner with most schools, most

[6:07:02] continuation schools and

[6:07:04] traditional high schools to offer

[6:07:06] programming, college campuses,

[6:07:08] juvenile hall and the jails across the

[6:07:11] entire county.

[6:07:12] we are in a lot of places.

[6:07:15] okay.

[6:07:16] I'm going to start not at the

[6:07:17] beginning but at the reentry program

[6:07:19] because there's been discussion of

[6:07:20] that.

[6:07:21] pride does become a program for our

[6:07:23] young people levering the institution.

[6:07:25] they have spent time in juvenile hall,

[6:07:28] the age range from 12-18, anybody that

[6:07:30] spent my time there has access to our

[6:07:33] programing and they receive a

[6:07:36] professional coach to work with them

[6:07:38] and develop plans based on what

[6:07:40] their needs are and what their goals

[6:07:42] are and they meet with professional

[6:07:44] coaches to have their needs met.

[6:07:48] it was mentioned a certain number of

[6:07:49] hours and time spent with them.

[6:07:51] we have minimum requirements that are

[6:07:54] deliverables for our staff, if a young

[6:07:56] person needs more time than that, had

[6:07:58] that they cannot have that, I have

[6:08:00] never said that.

[6:08:02] we do individualized coach management

[6:08:04] and we give the time with their coach

[6:08:06] in order to get whatever they need

[6:08:08] from the program, that's entering into

[6:08:10] school or basic needs support or post

[6:08:13] secondary, we meet them where they are

[6:08:15] and focus on individual case

[6:08:17] management.

[6:08:18] they have access to a career pathways

[6:08:20] navigator, that is there for

[6:08:22] educational support and exposure to

[6:08:24] different career paths so they have

[6:08:26] access to the professional coach and

[6:08:28] that person.

[6:08:30] okay, we also have our reps program,

[6:08:35] this is for young people in custody in

[6:08:36] the sytf unit, they are also given a

[6:08:38] professional coach that does one on

[6:08:40] one in custody case management.

[6:08:42] that is pivot for fly, we've never

[6:08:45] done in custody coaching before, sytf

[6:08:49] never existed before.

[6:08:51] the coaches work with the young people

[6:08:52] on building their social, emotional

[6:08:56] skills, they receive workshops once a

[6:08:58] week towards professional development

[6:08:59] and life skillets and cockering from

[6:09:02] other staff members and we have other

[6:09:03] professionals come in and talk to them

[6:09:06] about what their industries are like

[6:09:07] and they can interview them and ask

[6:09:09] them questions, this program has

[6:09:11] been built within the last several

[6:09:12] years and has expanded their

[6:09:14] services with the recent contract and

[6:09:16] we also can serve 707 offenses that

[6:09:20] are not in the security treatment

[6:09:22] facility as well.

[6:09:23] we're going to have the capacity to do

[6:09:25] that and to both programs with this

[6:09:28] new contract, we're adding a credible

[6:09:30] messaging mentoring component.

[6:09:55] we're adding on this additional level

[6:09:56] of programming and we're excited to

[6:09:58] build that out this year, we're about

[6:10:00] six years in, we're excited to start

[6:10:02] matching young people and dinging this

[6:10:04] intervention to really support the

[6:10:08] most vulnerable young people, the

[6:10:10] highest need.

[6:10:12] our law program, that is where young

[6:10:15] people are in the school sites, we

[6:10:18] facilitate a 12 week curriculum, ron

[6:10:20] mentioned that most people don't know

[6:10:22] what the miranda rights are and we

[6:10:25] hope hundreds of people around the

[6:10:29] country know, what young people's

[6:10:31] rights are, the laws and how young

[6:10:33] people can be advocates themselves for

[6:10:35] the changes they want to see in their

[6:10:37] community, that's what that program

[6:10:40] does, it's our largest touch

[6:10:42] program, we serve the most young

[6:10:44] people.

[6:10:45] peer point is a diversion program,

[6:10:46] this is offered at schools and through

[6:10:48] police departments, that is meant to

[6:10:51] offer alternative suspension or

[6:10:52] arrests, it's true diversion in the

[6:10:54] sense that young people instead of

[6:10:57] being suspended, they will do

[6:10:59] restorative circles with their peers,

[6:11:00] foes can you on accountability,

[6:11:04] healing and approach, that's men to

[6:11:05] divert from the system in the schools,

[6:11:08] that's primarily our focus right now,

[6:11:10] police departments have been trickier,

[6:11:11] we're open to it, but we're focusing

[6:11:15] on the school prevention aspect of

[6:11:17] things.

[6:11:18] I will mention that the a former

[6:11:19] commission on the jjdpc did find this

[6:11:22] opportunity for us and really

[6:11:24] developed it and we were entrusted to

[6:11:27] provide the programming and have done

[6:11:29] so, that funding is no longer

[6:11:31] there, we have found ways to scale it

[6:11:33] through the dedication partnerships

[6:11:35] and just the commitment of the fly

[6:11:37] team itself.

[6:11:39] and last lay is our leadership program

[6:11:41] which is 26 young people that work

[6:11:43] with a coacher throughout the school

[6:11:45] year, they build their leadership

[6:11:47] skills and learn on world issues,

[6:11:51] they receive one on one coaching, we

[6:11:53] have a fun retreat as well.

[6:11:55] that is all I have, I'll leave you

[6:11:58] with some youth quotes, I promised

[6:12:00] that was fast as I could do it.

[6:12:02] >> that was really fast and I want to

[6:12:05] appreciate it, I appreciate your team,

[6:12:07] I was like who are those people.

[6:12:09] I saw some of them in the pictures.

[6:12:11] >> I had a question about something

[6:12:13] that I saw but I'm -- did you have any

[6:12:17] questions?

[6:12:18] do my colleagues have questions?

[6:12:19] one of your programs -- I can't

[6:12:23] remember, I was going to say if you

[6:12:24] need help connecting with any police

[6:12:27] departments, every supervisor here has

[6:12:30] connections to polices departments and

[6:12:32] we would love -- well, I'll speak for

[6:12:37] myself, I'll take what I heard earlier

[6:12:40] today to heart, yeah.

[6:12:42] >> especially if they don't have their

[6:12:47] own diversion, it is a great

[6:12:48] opportunity for us, we're doing that.

[6:12:49] if anybody knows any credible

[6:12:52] messenger mentors, people that would

[6:12:54] like to give back to the community, find

[6:12:57] us.

[6:12:58] >> okay.

[6:12:59] >> thank you so much.

[6:13:01] supervisor gauthier?

[6:13:02] >> through the

[6:13:03] chair, I want to say I appreciate

[6:13:04] fly, all the work that you do, I

[6:13:05] want to give a huge shout-out to

[6:13:09] thurmond wade who is representing you

[6:13:10] in all spaces all the time ensuring

[6:13:13] that you are being represented, so

[6:13:15] just appreciate you and I

[6:13:18] attended a few of the events and I

[6:13:20] know the work you're doing and the

[6:13:22] impact you're having on young people

[6:13:24] on their lives, they're graduating

[6:13:27] from college similar to live in peace

[6:13:29] and they're doing so much better in

[6:13:31] their lives so thank you for being at

[6:13:32] the table.

[6:13:34] I'm looking forward to live in peaches

[6:13:36] presentation as well, I appreciate

[6:13:37] your work.

[6:13:38] >> thank you.

[6:13:39] >> I know what I was going to say

[6:13:40] earlier.

[6:13:41] I wanted to say thank you, like, when

[6:13:44] we hear things like our youth don't

[6:13:47] get services, this is a service that

[6:13:49] our youth get that probation has a

[6:13:53] contract with that is amazing and is

[6:13:57] worthy of respect and is worthy of

[6:13:59] celebration, so thank you and, you

[6:14:04] know, culturally, like, competent

[6:14:07] services are -- they're not always

[6:14:08] there and when they are, they're

[6:14:12] extremely valuable and that lived

[6:14:14] experience is gold to these young

[6:14:15] people.

[6:14:16] thank you, supervisor mueller?

[6:14:18] >> I saw you like about to click.

[6:14:21] okay.

[6:14:22] thank you.

[6:14:23] thank you so much.

[6:14:24] >> thank you.

[6:14:25] >> I think we have live in peace up

[6:14:28] next.

[6:14:31] welcome.

[6:14:34] >> hello.

[6:14:36] thank you, guys, I know -- I probably

[6:14:38] won't be that quick, that was

[6:14:41] impressive, but I'm dr. Sterns lagwood

[6:14:45] from live in peace, I live and

[6:14:49] breathe east palo alto, menlo park and

[6:14:54] redwood city, eugene jackson is down

[6:14:57] there, I'm going to be the speaker.

[6:14:59] live in peace, our mission is just to

[6:15:03] help young people reclaim the vision

[6:15:05] for their future, we do that by

[6:15:07] removing barriers giving access, by

[6:15:12] pushing people forward to be their

[6:15:15] best personal self.

[6:15:16] I think our secret sauce, we're

[6:15:19] similar to fly in some ways, our

[6:15:21] secret size is our staff.

[6:15:24] that's the next -- our staff are from

[6:15:27] east palo alto, from menlo park and from

[6:15:31] redwood city, born and raised, I'm the

[6:15:33] newest member and I'm from 1987, so

[6:15:36] I've put some work in myself so,, we

[6:15:42] are previously incarcerated, we are

[6:15:43] college edge skates, we are social

[6:15:46] workers, we are -- we represent our

[6:15:50] community and we know the kids before we

[6:15:52] go in, we know their families, we know

[6:15:54] them while they're in and we know when

[6:15:56] they get out.

[6:15:57] I think we are famously a wrap around

[6:16:00] service in ways that only people that

[6:16:03] live -- it's personal for us.

[6:16:06] >> it's personal when you don't make

[6:16:07] it because you're our neighbor, you're

[6:16:10] our god son, you're our friend, so

[6:16:12] we're committed to this and we love

[6:16:13] working with the juvenile hall.

[6:16:17] just some quick things.

[6:16:20] we are -- we focus on young people

[6:16:25] that have no been served by other

[6:16:26] communities, by other organizations.

[6:16:28] live in peace comes out of rest in

[6:16:31] peace, we realize that our young

[6:16:33] people knew how to celebrate death and

[6:16:35] knew what to do when kids got out,

[6:16:39] their friends got out of prison, but

[6:16:41] they didn't know thousand live -- how

[6:16:44] to live in peace, so everything we do

[6:16:46] is based out of the concept that

[6:16:48] alive and free is baseline and we know

[6:16:50] how to get you there, we know how to

[6:16:53] give you good information, good advice

[6:16:54] and we'll walk with you until you

[6:16:58] figure it out yourself.

[6:16:59] we have long term over 40 years

[6:17:02] experience, we're deeply rooted but I

[6:17:04] think the other thing is we were

[6:17:06] designed to intersect with systems so

[6:17:08] we know what we do as a non-profit, we

[6:17:10] get in the little crevices, we knee a

[6:17:16] school cannot do all that or juvenile

[6:17:18] hall, but we intersect as a community

[6:17:21] where they cannot do it so that's why

[6:17:23] we believe in a partnership between

[6:17:26] non-profits and systems are legally

[6:17:28] important and I will say I don't know

[6:17:31] anybody that's doing it better than

[6:17:33] them right now.

[6:17:37] these are our programs and I'll

[6:17:40] highlight a few of them, all are based

[6:17:42] on young people that historically do

[6:17:45] not make -- swag is something that

[6:17:48] mike callagy and live in peace and a

[6:17:50] couple of others from east palo alto

[6:17:52] came up with connie back there, but to

[6:17:55] date, we have 99% graduation rate of

[6:18:02] high-schoolers and these are young

[6:18:04] people that are justice involved, they

[6:18:06] are reentry, they are suspended and

[6:18:09] we're incredibly proud of that and

[6:18:11] that's the kids coming in and out of

[6:18:14] juvenile hall, that's why we work well

[6:18:17] with mill crest and with san mateo

[6:18:19] county of education, we have a gap

[6:18:21] year, we have trades, so if you're not

[6:18:25] ready -- if -- trades is not just

[6:18:27] being ready to not go to college, hell,

[6:18:29] you have a good opportunity to make a

[6:18:31] lot of money and so we have a pretty

[6:18:34] robust trades program.

[6:18:35] we have a college and career program

[6:18:37] where we do almost a million dollars

[6:18:39] of scholarships every year and we have

[6:18:43] an 88% graduation rate and 14% is the

[6:18:46] national average of this demographic,

[6:18:49] so, I would like to take all the

[6:18:52] credit but it's our secret sauce that

[6:18:54] does the work and we're proud of it.

[6:18:57] we also just for who we are, we

[6:19:02] started a bike shop and our kids

[6:19:07] started getting -- intersecting with

[6:19:09] the polices because of bikes, we would

[6:19:10] start a bike shop, the kids would

[6:19:13] bring the facebook bikes there, we

[6:19:18] would get them a different bike but

[6:19:19] then it became -- it was great,

[6:19:21] facebook loved us too for that, but

[6:19:23] also we now train young people how to

[6:19:25] work on bikes and we serve the whole

[6:19:28] community and we have kids that are

[6:19:30] now college and they are working at

[6:19:34] their colleges on bikes, so we have a

[6:19:36] lot of things we do.

[6:19:38] we'll go to the next one.

[6:19:41] our tag line is when you see yourself

[6:19:43] in the future, you make decisions to

[6:19:45] get there.

[6:19:46] that's a lot of what we're doing is

[6:19:48] we're helping young people see

[6:19:50] themselves for their beauty and their

[6:19:51] power and it doesn't matter where you

[6:19:53] are, if you're in juvenile hall, you're

[6:19:56] in juvenile hall, if you're out,

[6:19:58] you're out.

[6:19:59] every single young person -- nobody

[6:20:02] removed going to juvenile hall or jail

[6:20:04] for life, it's a process after

[6:20:07] decision after decision and so if we

[6:20:09] can intersect these decisions and

[6:20:11] intersect the person -- I was just at

[6:20:14] csm today, one of the kids that's out,

[6:20:18] he came, he's like, hey, miss, you see

[6:20:21] me as a college student, I'm like,

[6:20:23] hey, boy, I see you.

[6:20:25] where I last saw him was in juvenile

[6:20:27] hall but he's trance sighing to see

[6:20:31] himself as college students, we know

[6:20:33] that's so important, we wrap around

[6:20:35] students, we provide financial services,

[6:20:37] we provide pretty much anything that

[6:20:38] they need.

[6:20:43] okay, so we're also in the hall, we

[6:20:46] are there five days as week with six

[6:20:49] staff, eugene is there, he's the big

[6:20:52] dog, and I think he brings in the live

[6:20:55] in peace spirit where we're just

[6:20:58] constantly working to serve the system

[6:21:02] that is -- it really has the challenge

[6:21:04] of keeping kids safe, keeping the

[6:21:06] community safe, helping rehab young

[6:21:09] people and so what we do in juvenile

[6:21:12] hall is we life coach, we work on the

[6:21:15] individual plans.

[6:21:19] we do aod, alcohol and drug with

[6:21:22] mindfulness, we do workforce

[6:21:23] development so they're ready when they

[6:21:27] get out.

[6:21:30] they have skills, interviews capacity,

[6:21:34] the most exciting thing we're doing is

[6:21:35] we brought in a construction team

[6:21:37] where our young people are learning to

[6:21:40] three days a week, they are planning

[6:21:45] and building projects and they're

[6:21:46] learning how to use all the tools,

[6:21:50] they have all the different

[6:21:53] certificates and then we're also doing

[6:21:56] the support to drive young people

[6:21:58] where they need to be for the young

[6:22:01] people that are on their way out.

[6:22:03] so we're driving kids to college, and

[6:22:06] we're helping with all that so,, I

[6:22:08] don't know the you know, there is a

[6:22:10] young person in sonoma state right now

[6:22:13] that also comes home on the

[6:22:16] weekend, that's a big deal.

[6:22:17] I don't know who else is doing that

[6:22:19] and the partnership going on with

[6:22:21] project change, with project rebounds,

[6:22:23] those are not easy to do, it's hard to

[6:22:27] get all these organizations to talk

[6:22:29] together and to move a student that is

[6:22:32] also incarcerated to have a college

[6:22:34] experience, that is not easy and

[6:22:36] that takes a lot of work and a lot of

[6:22:39] bending, so we're super excited about that

[6:22:41] and we have a reentry diviner --

[6:22:45] everything we do includes young people

[6:22:47] out of being incarcerated, life

[6:22:50] coaching, college support, job

[6:22:52] support, everything we're doing.

[6:22:55] so, the other thing is we do have a

[6:22:56] federal grant that is -- we've been

[6:22:59] able to hire 25 young people that were

[6:23:02] incarcerated this year, so we have 25

[6:23:07] students that have jobs that were

[6:23:08] incarcerated at juvenile hall, we also

[6:23:11] have -- we're training them to be

[6:23:14] leaders and so I think overall, what

[6:23:15] we are seeing is all the -- we're not

[6:23:19] the only ones, we partner whoever we

[6:23:23] can partner with.

[6:23:24] it is coming in the direction from the

[6:23:31] juvenile hall, I'm sure there are

[6:23:33] things we can fix.

[6:23:34] in honesty, I'm so proud and so

[6:23:36] hopeful for the work that we're doing

[6:23:38] and it's like I said, it's personal,

[6:23:41] it's our neighbors, it's our frenz,

[6:23:43] and -- friends, and I wouldn't be up

[6:23:47] here talking about something has was

[6:23:49] disrespectful to my neighbor, I

[6:23:50] feel sure and strong about our work

[6:23:52] and about the system that we're

[6:23:53] working with.

[6:23:56] do you have any questions?

[6:23:57] >> thank you so much, any questions?

[6:24:01] >> supervisor gauthier?

[6:24:04] >> thank you.

[6:24:06] I sat on the board for years so I know

[6:24:09] firsthand the young people, the lives

[6:24:11] you're really impacting and how you're

[6:24:13] changing east palo alto and the bike

[6:24:15] program and the bike courses that you

[6:24:18] do, just you're really giving back to

[6:24:20] the community as a whole and I want to

[6:24:29] thank you for live in peace through

[6:24:31] the swag person because it has made a

[6:24:33] difference for many young people.

[6:24:34] >> if I can through the chair,

[6:24:36] supervisor gauthier, you hit the nail

[6:24:37] on the head.

[6:24:38] this is an incredible organization and

[6:24:41] heather and eugene are the real deal,

[6:24:45] they're helping kids every day, it was

[6:24:47] our pleasure to partner with you and

[6:24:48] continue to partner with you.

[6:24:50] >> thank you, I wanted to say you

[6:24:53] mentioned project rebound, as a

[6:24:57] family member of a lot of people that

[6:25:00] were formerly incarcerated, I did my

[6:25:03] college internship with project

[6:25:04] rebound, so I got to reconnect with

[6:25:07] jason bell that has run that

[6:25:08] program for many years at sf state,

[6:25:12] and it's true, those relationships

[6:25:14] take intention to build and to

[6:25:17] maintain and thank you for all has you

[6:25:18] do.

[6:25:19] I remember when I heard about live in

[6:25:20] peace, I said I want that in san mateo

[6:25:23] in my district, so thank you so much.

[6:25:24] anyone else?

[6:25:27] no?

[6:25:28] okay, thank you so much.

[6:25:29] and with that, I think we'll hand it

[6:25:31] over to chief keene to wrap us up and

[6:25:35] yeah, I don't know what time we're

[6:25:38] going to end today because we still

[6:25:40] have a lot to go to.

[6:25:41] >> I want to go quickly, I know we have

[6:25:43] public comment and I want to get to

[6:25:45] that.

[6:25:46] I want to -- and once again, if you can

[6:25:49] go to the last page with concerns.

[6:25:51] I want to say once again how much I

[6:25:53] appreciate the opportunity to have

[6:25:55] these discussions today.

[6:25:56] I think they were very well and

[6:25:59] important and needed.

[6:26:00] and I certainly want to support

[6:26:02] something that supervisor canepa said.

[6:26:04] I've been your chief for 13 years,

[6:26:06] during that time, I have had a mason

[6:26:09] relationship with iterations of the

[6:26:12] jjdpc.

[6:26:13] it has had different leadership during

[6:26:15] those times and we've not always seen

[6:26:17] eye to eye, and as you said, I think

[6:26:20] really wisely, supervisor, it's been a

[6:26:22] healthy intention and I think that's

[6:26:24] tension has helped us make some huge

[6:26:27] strides in certain areas and has

[6:26:29] created an opportunity for learning

[6:26:31] on both ends, but I think the key

[6:26:33] issue I have is the leadership of the

[6:26:37] past work collaborative and I want to

[6:26:39] be clear to distinguish from the

[6:26:42] commission as a whole because I think

[6:26:46] that's really important.

[6:26:47] our community folks volunteer their

[6:26:50] time and energy to learn to become

[6:26:53] subject matter experts in areas that

[6:26:55] most of them did not go to school for,

[6:26:57] most of them did not have those

[6:26:59] experiences so I really believe that

[6:27:01] that work is genuinely important to

[6:27:03] improve the system but also hold the

[6:27:05] system accountable.

[6:27:07] I think where the concern lies is that

[6:27:10] the current leadership is not

[6:27:12] presenting opportunities I think for

[6:27:13] the most part for there to be earnest

[6:27:19] collaboration, the amount of

[6:27:20] misinformation over the last six

[6:27:23] month, 8 months, a year has been

[6:27:26] problematic and troubling, I think we

[6:27:27] heard interesting comments today about

[6:27:30] resolving concerns and things that are

[6:27:32] really important to the

[6:27:33] commission, to the chair who spoke for

[6:27:36] the commission, and I noticed this

[6:27:39] commentary about confidentiality and

[6:27:42] them not being an attorney or it she

[6:27:44] not being an attorney, that struck me

[6:27:46] as odd.

[6:27:48] the picture you see in front of you is

[6:27:51] an inappropriate unauthorized photo

[6:27:52] taken from inside my facility.

[6:27:54] when you guys received your

[6:27:57] presentation in december, it was full

[6:27:59] of photos that were taken inside of my

[6:28:01] facility that were not authorized.

[6:28:03] the reason why I bring that up is I

[6:28:06] think it's microcosm of what we've

[6:28:07] been experiencing.

[6:28:09] this kind of blatant disregard for

[6:28:12] true collaboration and partnership.

[6:28:15] it's more, I know best, I want to do

[6:28:17] what I want to do, it's created a

[6:28:19] negative environment in our facility,

[6:28:21] it has created a relationship where I

[6:28:23] think we don't have faith that the

[6:28:29] things that I think you are going to

[6:28:30] direct as we move forward can really

[6:28:33] be achieved because I think sometimes

[6:28:36] unspoken intentions of folks that are

[6:28:37] in the positions of leadership.

[6:28:41] this picture was on social media, this

[6:28:43] picture has been on their website for

[6:28:48] their business, this picture has been

[6:28:51] utilized to try to solicit funds on

[6:28:53] behalf of different things and for me,

[6:28:56] if a person will disregard the

[6:28:59] confidentiality of our children

[6:29:01] because when you look at this photo,

[6:29:04] our senses are so small that I have

[6:29:07] five wonderful, beautiful children and I

[6:29:09] can tell you how they walk, their

[6:29:14] images, their profiles, if I'm a

[6:29:18] parent sitting at home and I see a

[6:29:20] picture of my child, I will feel a

[6:29:22] certain way about that.

[6:29:23] as we move forward with this

[6:29:26] relationship, we can do so in a

[6:29:28] way where true intentions will lead

[6:29:31] the conversations.

[6:29:32] if the goal is to say that no youth

[6:29:34] should be in dust u custody regardless

[6:29:36] of what they've done or the people

[6:29:39] they victimized or the state of the

[6:29:42] vicks afterwards, then let's just say

[6:29:45] that so we can work in this place of

[6:29:47] honesty.

[6:29:48] the goal is to provide opportunities

[6:29:49] for young people and provide

[6:29:52] rehabilitation, let's do that and put

[6:29:56] aside personal focus.

[6:29:58] the young people need adults who are

[6:30:01] going to meet and work -- and I think

[6:30:04] one of the juvenile judges said it

[6:30:07] best, the adults need to get over

[6:30:09] themselves and figure out a way to

[6:30:10] work and the probation department is

[6:30:12] here to work, we're here to implement

[6:30:15] the things you need and we're here to

[6:30:18] listen to concerns but my hope is that

[6:30:21] something like this is not indicative

[6:30:23] of the future.

[6:30:26] thank you for the opportunity and

[6:30:28] certainly after public comment, if you

[6:30:29] have any other questions, I would be

[6:30:31] happy to answer.

[6:30:32] >> thank you.

[6:30:35] any comments or questions from the

[6:30:38] board?

[6:30:39] supervisor speier?

[6:30:40] >> thank you.

[6:30:42] let me just say to everyone how

[6:30:45] valuable your input has been today and

[6:30:49] how important this study session has

[6:30:53] been.

[6:30:54] I was stunned by the civil grand jury

[6:30:57] report that showed there was a 40%

[6:31:02] increase in a cost per youth from

[6:31:05] 23-24 of 423 thousand dollars per

[6:31:10] youth to 586 thousand dollars per

[6:31:15] youth in our youth service center.

[6:31:19] I'm also very concerned about the

[6:31:22] service cliff and the fact that like

[6:31:25] with foster children, they age out at

[6:31:27] 18 and we realize they weren't ready

[6:31:30] to be out at 18 and I think we need to

[6:31:34] look at taking some part of the rest

[6:31:36] of that facility and create a program

[6:31:42] where these young people can

[6:31:45] transition to a different setting but

[6:31:47] have some of the resources we saw from

[6:31:52] a number of the partners like fly and

[6:31:55] live in peace.

[6:31:56] I'm also concerned about the youth

[6:31:59] attacks on staff that have gone up 40%

[6:32:04] which speaks to a violence within the

[6:32:09] center there that is concerning and,

[6:32:12] chief, maybe we should have another

[6:32:14] conversation about that at a different

[6:32:17] time.

[6:32:18] I'm delighted to see that the prea

[6:32:21] number will be -- 800 number will be

[6:32:24] available soon, I think that's very

[6:32:26] important.

[6:32:27] I think we've got to find a way to

[6:32:31] procure some of the items these young

[6:32:36] people need to be able to jog for

[6:32:39] instance around that beautiful track

[6:32:41] and right now I think the

[6:32:44] process is too long for that.

[6:32:47] so, equipment for them to exercise

[6:32:52] with, athletic ware, they made that

[6:32:54] very clear and those are things that

[6:32:56] could make a huge difference for them.

[6:32:57] if we can come up with some different

[6:33:00] kind of procurement for some of those

[6:33:02] items, I think that would be very

[6:33:04] helpful in terms of their development.

[6:33:08] and the talk about food was over the

[6:33:11] top.

[6:33:12] I think the food is better than was

[6:33:16] represented.

[6:33:17] it's not great, but they even said

[6:33:20] that it's improved substantially.

[6:33:21] the extent to which we can create

[6:33:25] culinary job training for some of

[6:33:28] these young people, I think that's a

[6:33:31] great potential job for them in the

[6:33:32] future, and I

[6:33:35] don't know if we can turn that

[6:33:38] facility into something that can be

[6:33:39] made into a learning environment for

[6:33:42] them, but it appears that there is new

[6:33:44] money available and this report speaks

[6:33:46] to the fact that santa clara county

[6:33:49] and la county have developed these

[6:33:52] specialized programs for what they're

[6:33:55] clinging emerging adults and received

[6:34:00] financing or incentives for these

[6:34:01] counties.

[6:34:02] I hope we can look that the as well as

[6:34:03] we move forward, but madam president,

[6:34:07] thank you for convening this.

[6:34:08] I think it was really important to do

[6:34:11] and I look forward to working closely

[6:34:14] with those who work on behalf of our

[6:34:17] young people who need us and we need

[6:34:21] to be able to provide for them in

[6:34:23] hopes of a better future.

[6:34:25] >> thank you, supervisor mueller?

[6:34:28] >> thank you, colleagues.

[6:34:29] thank you to everyone who presented

[6:34:35] again, what I would like to suggest

[6:34:37] our board consider doing is to offer

[6:34:40] resources to sponsor an informal best

[6:34:43] practices assessment for the jjdpc's

[6:34:46] interaction with the county youth

[6:34:48] services center.

[6:34:49] I would like to offer the board that

[6:34:51] we should consider fund finding a

[6:34:54] subject matter expert to see the

[6:34:58] current practices and goals against

[6:35:01] statewide best practices and

[6:35:02] regional best practices so we can make

[6:35:05] recommendations and provide the

[6:35:07] support needed and that would take in

[6:35:11] dialogue from everyone.

[6:35:12] I think having that assessment is

[6:35:14] going to help us empower the jjdpc,

[6:35:19] the acronym, and our county

[6:35:20] departments and I would love to be

[6:35:21] able to get that report back and

[6:35:23] understand what that facilitator is

[6:35:26] telling us.

[6:35:28] >> any other comments?

[6:35:29] supervisor canepa?

[6:35:30] supervisor gauthier?

[6:35:34] >> no, I want to say again, thank you for

[6:35:36] all those who stayed and walked uss

[6:35:38] through this study session, it was

[6:35:41] very important.

[6:35:42] at the end of the day, I would like to

[6:35:44] figure out how photos are taken in the

[6:35:47] facility and I hope we don't have

[6:35:49] unauthorized photos that are taken in

[6:35:50] the facility.

[6:35:51] I hope that doesn't happen in the

[6:35:53] future and we can come to a better

[6:35:55] agreement and work better together to

[6:35:58] help our youth.

[6:35:59] at the end of the day, it is about the

[6:36:01] youth and getting them on track so

[6:36:02] they can be successful when they leave

[6:36:05] there and reenter and come back to

[6:36:09] our neighborhoods.

[6:36:10] >> thank you, I want to recognize,

[6:36:12] thank you, chief keene, for your

[6:36:13] comments.

[6:36:14] I think you summarized it pretty well.

[6:36:17] one of the things I would like to see

[6:36:19] and maybe through the county

[6:36:21] executive, we've had a pretty

[6:36:23] productive meeting with various

[6:36:24] stakeholders.

[6:36:25] I think we had representative from the

[6:36:28] court, we've had the jjdpc, might I

[6:36:32] suggest is looking at the feasibility

[6:36:34] of maybe having an annual meeting or

[6:36:38] quarterly meeting to bring people

[6:36:40] together with different perspectives

[6:36:42] so there could be future

[6:36:46] collaboration, and so I think as we

[6:36:47] move forward, we have a lot of smart

[6:36:50] people.

[6:36:51] obviously different skill sets, some

[6:36:53] similar, if we could form an ad hoc,

[6:37:00] whatever it is, maybe it's something

[6:37:03] you do, chief keene, where we're

[6:37:06] exchanging activities and everyone

[6:37:07] in the circle is aware of what

[6:37:09] everyone is doing, I think I want to

[6:37:12] thank supervisor speier, supervisor

[6:37:14] corzo, for bringing this forward.

[6:37:15] I do think it's a good first step.

[6:37:18] I do think there's

[6:37:22] opportunities for deeper collaboration.

[6:37:23] >> thank you, yeah.

[6:37:26] so, I want to share with the board

[6:37:30] that, yeah, I've been working

[6:37:31] internally with the jjdpc and with

[6:37:36] county leadership, the survey has been

[6:37:37] a part of that, wanting to the hear

[6:37:42] from every single commissioner on the

[6:37:44] jjdpc about areas they want more

[6:37:46] training in, more support and they want

[6:37:49] to explore areas, they want more data

[6:37:55] and information and also hearing from

[6:37:57] partners what about would work better

[6:37:59] for them and kind of relooking at how

[6:38:04] we can reset.

[6:38:06] I will say having worked with many

[6:38:09] commissions, the jjdpc does things in

[6:38:11] a way that's different from any

[6:38:13] other commission, so kind of reworking

[6:38:15] that to have it be more on par and

[6:38:19] just kind of make it a less tense

[6:38:25] space, I think we can get there.

[6:38:26] I want to get there.

[6:38:27] I think it's totally possible.

[6:38:32] I hope this study session, you know,

[6:38:35] as we opened with the intentions and

[6:38:41] the purpose, I hope this helped

[6:38:43] diffuse some of the tension, we've

[6:38:46] gotten it out there, there's been a

[6:38:47] lot of information shared.

[6:38:49] this must be our longest study session

[6:38:51] of the year and it does deserve that,

[6:38:55] our young people matter and they're

[6:38:58] important and it's not just about the

[6:39:01] youth in the ysc, it's also about the

[6:39:04] many youth in our community receiving

[6:39:08] diversion support and mentorship and

[6:39:14] preventative services and yeah, we all

[6:39:15] care about them and if there are

[6:39:18] improvements to be

[6:39:22] made, we should all be working

[6:39:23] together to make them.

[6:39:24] and I think, yeah, we've all learned a

[6:39:28] lot.

[6:39:29] so, thank you.

[6:39:30] did you want to share something,

[6:39:31] supervisor mueller?

[6:39:32] >> yeah, that's fine.

[6:39:33] >> it sounds like the county's already

[6:39:36] embarking on trying to facilitate it,

[6:39:38] so I will go ahead and withdraw that

[6:39:40] at this time but should the -- so,

[6:39:48] president or corzo, you should know as

[6:39:50] liaison, if you want to come forward

[6:39:51] and ask us for a subject matter

[6:39:54] facilitator to provide us with best

[6:39:56] practices has we can provide as

[6:39:59] recommendations, I would be supportive

[6:40:01] of that but I can go and withdraw that

[6:40:03] in the meeting at this time.

[6:40:04] >> thank you, I will say if there is

[6:40:06] like a neutral community partner that

[6:40:09] is interested in kind of being a

[6:40:11] mediator, I'm open to that, I don't

[6:40:15] want to pay like a facilitator like a

[6:40:18] ton of money when we can pay a

[6:40:21] community partner.

[6:40:22] >> so to be clear, what I'm looking

[6:40:25] for is I really think it would be

[6:40:27] important to go ahead and look at

[6:40:30] other jurisdictions in the operation

[6:40:33] of their jjdpc to see how it may

[6:40:36] differ from ours to try to go ahead

[6:40:38] and figure out what the tension point

[6:40:41] is originating from.

[6:40:43] and so a subject matter expert who

[6:40:45] went and looked at those other ones

[6:40:49] and looked at ours, we would have

[6:40:51] discrete recommendation.

[6:40:52] that being said, it sounds like you

[6:40:54] guys have stated a process but should

[6:40:59] you reach a point that you want to come back

[6:41:00] and ask us for that and people wanted

[6:41:01] to see that, I would be open to it.

[6:41:03] >> absolutely, thank you, I think we

[6:41:05] can expand that scope and potentially

[6:41:08] bring that back to the board.

[6:41:13] it's almost 5:00, y'all, I'm running

[6:41:15] out of steam here.

[6:41:16] with that, let's move -- supervisor

[6:41:18] canepa?

[6:41:19] >> madam chair, I'm going to

[6:41:20] ask you and I hate to do this, I don't

[6:41:22] think I've done it once on the board,

[6:41:25] if we could take my measure k item.

[6:41:27] >> yes, but after public comment.

[6:41:30] >> public comment, please.

[6:41:31] >> we have 8 speaker cards from

[6:41:33] chambers for item number 6, we'll

[6:41:35] start with kathy and then [inaudible]

[6:41:39] and barbara taylor.

[6:41:42] can we first have kathy.

[6:41:50] >> my name is kathy barrett, I

[6:41:56] live in san carlos, I'm a parent and a

[6:41:57] grandparent and I believe every child

[6:41:58] deserves to be treated with dignity.

[6:42:01] last year, I participated in a

[6:42:04] december drive for hygiene products

[6:42:06] for the kids living in the youth

[6:42:08] services center.

[6:42:10] the last time I spoke about conditions

[6:42:12] in the youth services center, I

[6:42:14] focused on the amnesty of having

[6:42:16] enough good food to eat.

[6:42:18] I believe those comments were heard.

[6:42:21] this time I would like to talk about

[6:42:24] some relatively simple steps to treat

[6:42:26] these kids with dignity.

[6:42:29] since we went to rehabilitate every

[6:42:32] young resident of youth services center

[6:42:34] and treat them as if they matter

[6:42:36] which they do, steps like replacing

[6:42:39] worn out carpet and installing

[6:42:41] personal storage units would be a

[6:42:42] goaded start.

[6:42:43] they need a place to store their

[6:42:46] clothes, hygiene pugs -- products and

[6:42:54] school supplies.

[6:42:55] I was glad to hear you talk about the

[6:42:56] procurement process because I hope

[6:42:57] that the board and the county

[6:42:58] executive can help probation secure

[6:42:59] items like these which would help make

[6:43:01] this space more livable.

[6:43:02] thank you.

[6:43:03] >> thank you, it looks like beth had

[6:43:05] to leave, next we'll do barbara and then

[6:43:10] daria.

[6:43:11] is barbara taylor here?

[6:43:14] okay.

[6:43:18] daria?

[6:43:24] >> my name is daria, a resident of

[6:43:27] east palo alto, the director of youth

[6:43:30] justice california policy and capacity

[6:43:31] building at the national center for

[6:43:33] youth law.

[6:43:34] thank you for dedicating this time to

[6:43:36] learn and uplift the needs of youth

[6:43:39] who are touched by the juvenile

[6:43:41] justice system in san mateo county.

[6:43:43] it is well documented through research

[6:43:45] that any amount of system contact is

[6:43:47] harmful to youth and the further a

[6:43:49] young person goes into the system from

[6:43:51] arrests all the way to one day in

[6:43:53] detention not only can have lasting,

[6:43:57] traumatic impact, it can drive

[6:43:59] recidivism and undermines public

[6:44:00] safety.

[6:44:01] I would like to note today that we

[6:44:03] heard from some amazing community

[6:44:05] partners as well as leadership from

[6:44:08] probation and other system partners

[6:44:10] who are all incredibly dedicated and

[6:44:14] really it's showing that want the best

[6:44:19] for our young people of our community.

[6:44:20] notably what was absent was hearing

[6:44:21] from young people.

[6:44:22] and so I really encourage the board at

[6:44:25] whatever point be possible to hear

[6:44:27] darkly from young people.

[6:44:28] I know there were visits to juvenile

[6:44:33] hall but hearing from young people in

[6:44:34] the community of what their needs are

[6:44:36] and what they see for their future.

[6:44:38] the other thing to lift up is also

[6:44:40] kids who enter the system often are

[6:44:43] understood and talked about as this

[6:44:46] siloed entity as these kids or those

[6:44:49] kids and these are our kids, it's the

[6:44:51] same group of kids and there are kids

[6:44:55] impacted by housing issues, impacted

[6:44:57] by issues of mental health, issues

[6:44:59] with our education system, so neigh is

[6:45:02] touching those issues really should be

[6:45:04] understood as intersecting with how

[6:45:06] young people are entering up in our

[6:45:07] system.

[6:45:08] I would also like to offer that the

[6:45:10] national center for youth law is here

[6:45:11] to support the county and

[6:45:14] strengthening and uplifting good work

[6:45:15] that is being done here supporting

[6:45:18] implementation of new justice law and

[6:45:20] is providing technical assistance.

[6:45:24] thank you so much and I look forward

[6:45:26] to working with all of you.

[6:45:29] >> next we'll have nancy goodman and

[6:45:31] then we'll have rebecca keeler.

[6:45:32] >> after.

[6:45:40] >> I'm nancy goodman from redwood city.

[6:45:43] thank you for sponsoring had and thank

[6:45:46] you for all your work and the good

[6:45:49] outcome of this was hearing from a lot

[6:45:51] of different stakeholders.

[6:45:52] I wanted to ask the board, I think

[6:45:56] it's an opportunity for you to help

[6:45:57] with something supervisor speier

[6:45:58] referred to, we have a lot of unused

[6:45:59] space we're spending money on, camp

[6:46:04] [inaudible] has 30 beds and set up

[6:46:06] like a warm, cozy group home with

[6:46:08] a nice kitchen and it could be

[6:46:11] repurposed fairly quickly for

[6:46:12] something that would be used for

[6:46:14] substance abuse or supportive housing

[6:46:16] for transitional youth.

[6:46:19] the youth service center has about

[6:46:21] 35-40 kids but has 180 beds, we

[6:46:26] have the bond debt, the court is

[6:46:28] paying a section of it, theses a bond

[6:46:30] debt that could be repurposed without

[6:46:32] having to go to the voters, it's whatever

[6:46:34] they call the general purpose bond,

[6:46:37] the voters didn't say it has to be

[6:46:39] used for this purpose.

[6:46:40] the good thinkers here in the county

[6:46:42] could figure out how we can use some

[6:46:44] of that space, rebuild it and renovate

[6:46:46] it a little and separate it off, we

[6:46:49] need substance abuse and mental health

[6:46:50] treatment for these kids to keep them

[6:46:52] out of the system and we need

[6:46:54] supportive housing so thank you again

[6:46:55] so much and I agree with everyone who

[6:46:57] said let's just all work together on

[6:47:00] this.

[6:47:01] I'm just a member of the community

[6:47:02] that wants to help these kids.

[6:47:03] thank you.

[6:47:05] >> thank you.

[6:47:06] and then rebecca and after we'll have

[6:47:12] maria.

[6:47:15] >> thank you so much, board.

[6:47:20] I brought notes but I think I'm going

[6:47:23] to trash them.

[6:47:24] I'm going to go back to some of them.

[6:47:27] first of all, today, I hope is the

[6:47:30] beginning of conversation, what you

[6:47:33] said, supervisor canepa, I think

[6:47:35] instead of this kind of format, I'm

[6:47:37] hoping that we can speak individually

[6:47:39] where we can have conversation back

[6:47:41] and forth.

[6:47:42] I think that would be really helpful.

[6:47:48] I always say all of these kids in the

[6:47:50] hall will come home to our community

[6:47:51] all of this them, and how do we want

[6:47:53] that to look?

[6:47:54] and that's -- I'm a co-founder of in

[6:47:57] our care, san mateo county, and we

[6:48:00] founded simply because we saw that

[6:48:02] issues that kept coming up in the hall

[6:48:04] that we kept hearing about at the

[6:48:07] inspection reports, we kept hearing

[6:48:08] about year after year after year and

[6:48:10] we thought, well, if we can raise

[6:48:13] community awareness, if we can talk

[6:48:15] with you folks all, maybe we can help

[6:48:19] to make some of these things happen,

[6:48:21] that's where we came from.

[6:48:24] I want to say that when problems come

[6:48:27] up very often in the hall, we either

[6:48:30] go to the chief keene or to the

[6:48:32] probation department about them and

[6:48:33] it's always not their purview.

[6:48:36] sometimes very often we get pointed

[6:48:38] back to you folks so our ask today is

[6:48:42] the things that are within your

[6:48:44] purview, will you please work with us

[6:48:45] in the community, with probation, with

[6:48:49] jjdpc, with the community partners and

[6:48:52] try to address some of these things

[6:48:54] that keep getting brought up over and

[6:48:56] over again and also when we have one

[6:48:58] to two minute to speak, very often we

[6:49:01] don't get to say the thank you I want

[6:49:02] to say today, thank you tonight, it

[6:49:04] does seem like the middle of the night

[6:49:06] right now.

[6:49:07] we just bring up our concerns and so

[6:49:10] please don't take that as an offense,

[6:49:14] anybody, it's because it's the

[6:49:15] way we can get those concerns heard.

[6:49:16] thank you.

[6:49:18] >> thank you.

[6:49:19] and then next is maria.

[6:49:23] is she still here?

[6:49:24] no?

[6:49:25] okay.

[6:49:26] then melissa wilson.

[6:49:32] >> hi, good afternoon, thank you for

[6:49:35] taking the time for this.

[6:49:36] I would like to address data sharing.

[6:49:39] probation requires its community

[6:49:41] providers to collect outcome data and

[6:49:43] those programs report six month post

[6:49:46] program outcomes including new law

[6:49:48] violations, however there's very

[6:49:50] little publicly available data in

[6:49:54] probation's own performance and

[6:49:57] outcomes, the formal supervised

[6:49:59] probation, probation reports new

[6:50:01] violations while youth are under

[6:50:04] supervision but does not report

[6:50:07] comparable outcomes after probation

[6:50:09] ends.

[6:50:10] marin county has published any

[6:50:12] adjudications of two years of juvenile

[6:50:15] case closure for the general

[6:50:17] population after probation ended.

[6:50:19] why can't san mateo provide comparable

[6:50:22] post probation outcome data?

[6:50:23] as the chief noted today, the data

[6:50:25] they collect is provided to state

[6:50:29] funders and regulators, however these

[6:50:30] reports are in many different

[6:50:33] locations and require high level

[6:50:35] content knowledge to read.

[6:50:37] I ask the board to request that

[6:50:40] probation make meaningful outcome data

[6:50:42] available to the public.

[6:50:44] I also just want to thank the board

[6:50:46] for spending time today and listening

[6:50:49] to all the various very complicated

[6:50:52] issues that make up the juvenile

[6:50:55] justice system and I was touched

[6:50:57] noelia by you sharing your personal

[6:50:59] history with us.

[6:51:01] I thought that that really framed the

[6:51:04] issues that are present there the

[6:51:05] youth in our system.

[6:51:06] thank you.

[6:51:08] >> thank you.

[6:51:09] and we'll go to zoom now for item 6

[6:51:12] for public comment.

[6:51:13] raise your hand at this time, it's a

[6:51:14] final call.

[6:51:16] alright, we have five hands raised at

[6:51:17] this time.

[6:51:19] please unmute and begin.

[6:51:24] liz?

[6:51:25] >> thank you so much, council, for

[6:51:27] scheduling this study session.

[6:51:29] I think everyone here cares about our

[6:51:31] youth and we want to ensure that

[6:51:34] they're all ready to succeed when they

[6:51:35] get out.

[6:51:37] I want to emphasize that these

[6:51:40] children are innocent until they are

[6:51:43] proven guilty and about half the kids

[6:51:45] in custody at any given time of course

[6:51:48] it varies, they have not had their cases

[6:51:51] decided by a judge.

[6:51:53] I want to bring attention to several

[6:51:55] other things including the housing

[6:51:57] assignment risks where youth of all

[6:52:02] genders and disparate ages basically

[6:52:04] sometimes end up being housed together

[6:52:07] which raise serious safety concerns.

[6:52:13] furthermore, there is -- I wanted to

[6:52:15] make sure there's a way for the youth

[6:52:18] to make a complaint in compliance with

[6:52:23] the prea, outside of probation

[6:52:27] department, so that we can address

[6:52:32] concerns about prior staff members

[6:52:34] that were arrested.

[6:52:38] there of course have been enough said

[6:52:40] about the food service and I think

[6:52:42] improvement, we are very grateful

[6:52:45] for.

[6:52:46] and finally as the prior speaker said,

[6:52:49] we want to be more transparent about

[6:52:53] the youth's involvement in the legal

[6:52:55] system as much as the ratio of the

[6:52:57] youth being held before and after

[6:52:58] their cases have been adjudicated,

[6:53:01] whether or not they're being detained

[6:53:03] for a misdemeanor or felony

[6:53:07] and the length of their stay and

[6:53:10] strong reentry support which we are

[6:53:12] grateful for the work that's being

[6:53:14] done by many different organizations.

[6:53:17] I'm a voter and I'm paying attention

[6:53:19] and I'm a member of the public who

[6:53:21] deeply cares about all the children in

[6:53:23] our care.

[6:53:24] thank you.

[6:53:26] >> thank you.

[6:53:28] we have four more speakers.

[6:53:30] paul, please unmute and begin.

[6:53:34] >> good afternoon, everyone, sorry I

[6:53:36] could not be there in person, you've

[6:53:39] been to two doctors office, san mateo

[6:53:42] and sutter and that was the first

[6:53:44] sometime in a board of supervisor

[6:53:46] meeting.

[6:53:47] I want to say thank you to all of the

[6:53:51] supervisors for this opportunity to

[6:53:52] speak and for bringing this historic

[6:53:55] study session to fruition.

[6:53:58] I am just floored by the unity in this

[6:54:03] room and across the county that has

[6:54:05] presented itself today and I want to

[6:54:06] say thank you to all of you who I have

[6:54:10] worked with, big props.

[6:54:16] secondly, I would like to say every

[6:54:20] idea that was presented by the

[6:54:23] supervisors, I agree with 100%.

[6:54:25] if I have said or done something in

[6:54:28] the work that I do that has offended

[6:54:30] someone, I would like to reset.

[6:54:32] when we started this, supervisor

[6:54:36] canepa, chief keene, reimagine

[6:54:40] juvenile hall, about six years ago and

[6:54:41] look where we're at today.

[6:54:44] still pushing, shining the light for

[6:54:46] the same purpose which is community

[6:54:48] safety.

[6:54:49] I live in redwood city, I'm going to

[6:54:57] to be mere for the rest of my life,

[6:54:58] this is the second largest arrest

[6:54:59] population in the county.

[6:55:00] I want to make sure those kids are

[6:55:01] going to be friendly to me and my

[6:55:02] family when they get back just like you

[6:55:03] all and I want to continue to work

[6:55:06] with everybody and I want to say thank

[6:55:08] you for allowing me to be a part of

[6:55:10] this historic study session.

[6:55:16] reset, god bless.

[6:55:17] >> thank you, and we have alexis lewis

[6:55:21] and then edgar, alexis, please unmute

[6:55:24] and begin.

[6:55:25] >> good afternoon, president, and

[6:55:27] board of supervisors, thank you for

[6:55:29] scheduling this session.

[6:55:30] I live in san mateo and like all of

[6:55:32] you, I care about all of our children.

[6:55:35] today I just want to ask for greater

[6:55:41] transparency regarding youth

[6:55:42] involvement in our juvenile justice

[6:55:46] system.

[6:55:47] I want to thank the probation

[6:55:50] department for push publishing data on

[6:55:51] its website.

[6:55:52] the department states as a certified

[6:55:56] evidence based organization, it is

[6:55:57] committed to data driven policies,

[6:56:05] transparency and that data page will

[6:56:06] continue to be updated quarterly with

[6:56:09] additional information the future,

[6:56:10] that is a positive first step, the

[6:56:12] information used to be more accessible

[6:56:14] and meaningful to the general public.

[6:56:17] for someone who doesn't work in the

[6:56:19] field, terminology and acronyms

[6:56:26] subchaser djj, fpp and wrap around can

[6:56:28] be difficult to understand, the public

[6:56:31] should not need specialized knowledge

[6:56:33] to interpret children that are in our

[6:56:36] county's care.

[6:56:37] we also need more information why

[6:56:39] youth are being detained and what

[6:56:43] happened to them afterwards,

[6:56:46] transparency isn't about putting

[6:56:47] numbers on a web page, it is about

[6:56:50] presenting information in a way the

[6:56:51] public can understand and use it to

[6:56:53] keep our systems accountable.

[6:56:56] our youth, their families and the

[6:56:57] people of san mateo county deserve

[6:56:59] that level of transparency.

[6:57:00] thank you.

[6:57:02] >> thank you.

[6:57:03] and next we have edgar, please unmute

[6:57:05] and begin.

[6:57:12] >> my name is edgar, I'm a policy

[6:57:14] associate with the center for youth

[6:57:17] law.

[6:57:18] I want to start off by thanking supervisor

[6:57:19] corzo and everyone else who made this

[6:57:21] study session happen, it's been a long

[6:57:24] day for y'all, I could only imagine

[6:57:25] and all the information, testimonials,

[6:57:29] thou, ideas, questions that were

[6:57:30] shared and offered today are super

[6:57:31] frontier getting this right.

[6:57:34] the california youth authority was in

[6:57:38] place for almost 100 years or a little

[6:57:41] bit over 100 years and it took a while

[6:57:43] for it to get to the place it was,

[6:57:47] these type of conversations are really

[6:57:50] important.

[6:57:51] I want to give a special shout out to

[6:57:57] fly, the folks navigating the system,

[6:58:00] its's frontier have those credible

[6:58:03] messengers, those opportunities for

[6:58:04] education and employment.

[6:58:06] it's clear a lot of the community

[6:58:09] system stakeholders want -- we want to

[6:58:11] get the system right but I think for

[6:58:13] us, for this body, it's important to

[6:58:14] just look outside of the jjdpc,

[6:58:18] there's opportunities in different

[6:58:19] spaces such as the sb823 subcommittee

[6:58:22] that focuses on the justice

[6:58:25] realignment block grant that are

[6:58:27] dollar specific for people who are

[6:58:28] going to be there for long periods of

[6:58:30] time, there's the comprehensive

[6:58:32] multiagency juvenile justice

[6:58:34] plan put together by the jcc, it's

[6:58:37] either a five year, ten year depending

[6:58:39] on the county, those are to engage

[6:58:41] manfully and reach community members and

[6:58:43] bring young people to the table to

[6:58:45] share their experiences, parents to

[6:58:47] the table to share their experience

[6:58:49] and find solutions that not just look

[6:58:51] for the moment but to the future,

[6:58:54] right.

[6:58:55] I think that's the most important

[6:58:56] thing we do,

[6:58:59] things are changing, the ability to

[6:59:01] apply the resources from the county in

[6:59:04] meaningful way, specifically in

[6:59:06] housing as we know as one of the

[6:59:09] biggest crisis will be key and

[6:59:10] critical.

[6:59:11] thank you for the time.

[6:59:13] >> alright, thank you, next we have

[6:59:16] epa [inaudible], please unmute and

[6:59:20] begin.

[6:59:21] >> hi, sorry, my name is lourdes, east

[6:59:27] palo alto community member, I'm a

[6:59:30] participatory defense organizer with

[6:59:32] silicon valley debug and I want to say

[6:59:33] thank you for having this study

[6:59:34] session today.

[6:59:36] it was very informative and I'm glad

[6:59:41] that we can come together as a

[6:59:43] community and a county to move forward

[6:59:46] and work on behalf of the children,

[6:59:50] our youth here in our county.

[6:59:52] I have a nephew who has

[6:59:55] been affected by the criminal justice

[6:59:58] system in san mateo county, he is

[7:00:01] going through one of the programs in

[7:00:03] live in peace right now, so shout-out

[7:00:05] to them and the wonderful work they

[7:00:08] do.

[7:00:09] thanks, everyone.

[7:00:10] >> madam president, we did have one

[7:00:12] additional hand raised.

[7:00:13] >> let's take it, please.

[7:00:14] >> beverly, please unmute and begin.

[7:00:21] >> beverly, your hand's raised.

[7:00:22] >> thank you very much.

[7:00:24] I'm beverly gerard and I'm a member of

[7:00:27] the county board of education and I

[7:00:29] want to thank the board of supervisors

[7:00:32] for having this study session today.

[7:00:37] it has really been an eye opener and

[7:00:40] full of information that I think will

[7:00:42] be very, very useful to the county

[7:00:46] board and how we address our students.

[7:00:49] the current community schools are

[7:00:51] under the jurisdiction of the county

[7:00:54] board of education and so we create

[7:00:57] the policies, the curriculum, we

[7:01:00] approve and we also approve the

[7:01:03] budget.

[7:01:04] and I think it was invaluable to see

[7:01:07] what is happening before our students

[7:01:11] come to us as well as some of the

[7:01:16] opportunities that are available once

[7:01:17] they leave us so, thank you again for

[7:01:20] all this valuable information.

[7:01:22] it's much appreciated.

[7:01:23] thank you.

[7:01:24] >> alright, thank you.

[7:01:25] that

[7:01:27] concludes public comment.

[7:01:28] >> thank you so much, because this was

[7:01:30] a study session, we do not have to

[7:01:34] take an action.

[7:01:36] we are now moving on to -- go ahead

[7:01:40] and make your motion.

[7:01:41] >> I have someone who's 91 years old

[7:01:44] who's been here since 9 a.m. And

[7:01:47] that's perla, many of you know, I

[7:01:48] think this is the first time I have

[7:01:50] done this, I ask the board to take my

[7:01:53] measure k item which is item 17 and

[7:01:55] that's a motion.

[7:01:56] >> so you would like to move item 17

[7:01:59] before item 12?

[7:02:00] >> I would like to hear it right now.

[7:02:01] >> yes.

[7:02:04] >> yes, before item 12.

[7:02:06] is there a second?

[7:02:07] >> which number because item 17 was

[7:02:10] heard with item 9.

[7:02:11] >> it wasn't 17.

[7:02:13] >> it's item 17, measure k.

[7:02:16] >> it's not item 17.

[7:02:17] >> you mean the discretionary, number

[7:02:20] 20?

[7:02:21] >> excuse me, number 20.

[7:02:23] >> you would like to move item number

[7:02:26] 20 before item number 12.

[7:02:27] >> and that's my motion.

[7:02:29] >> and there's a second.

[7:02:31] >> okay.

[7:02:32] >> okay.

[7:02:34] roll call vote.

[7:02:37] >> supervisor speier is absent.

[7:02:39] supervisor mueller is absent.

[7:02:41] supervisor gauthier?

[7:02:42] >> yes.

[7:02:43] >> supervisor canepa?

[7:02:44] >> yes.

[7:02:45] >> president corzo?

[7:02:46] >> yes.

[7:02:47] >> motion passes.

[7:02:48] >> thank you for the correction, we

[7:02:49] have about 20 speakers, but I don't

[7:02:53] think I'm going to ask --

[7:02:55] >> you better not.

[7:02:58] >> I'm going to ask all the speakers

[7:03:02] virtually and we have county staff here,

[7:03:04] I think we're going to bypass them and

[7:03:07] what I would like to do is I would

[7:03:11] like to move the item, so I would like

[7:03:12] to move the adoption of the

[7:03:13] resolution of one-time grant of

[7:03:15] district discretionary measure k funds

[7:03:17] not to exceed 75 thousand dollars to

[7:03:18] the city of daly city.

[7:03:19] >> second.

[7:03:22] >> public comment?

[7:03:24] >> public comment, please.

[7:03:25] >> alright, I have five speaker cards

[7:03:29] from chambers, brett turner and then

[7:03:35] liano ramos.

[7:03:36] >> I think we're fine, yeah.

[7:03:40] >> hello, supervisors, thank you for

[7:03:42] all you do over this long day.

[7:03:44] this is an easy one for me to speak

[7:03:47] to, it's not my normal intent subject

[7:03:50] matter I bring before you.

[7:03:51] today we're celebrating daly city in

[7:03:53] saying I go to a lot of shows, a lot

[7:03:56] of musical sow shows, I have produced

[7:04:02] a lot of shows and have been

[7:04:03] involved with summer of love, I have

[7:04:05] witnessed a lot of shows around the

[7:04:06] bay area.

[7:04:08] this particular shows brings the

[7:04:09] community of daly city together in a

[7:04:12] fashion I haven't previously witnessed,

[7:04:14] the feel good nature if you haven't been

[7:04:16] to it is something to really witness.

[7:04:18] everybody comes together, the location

[7:04:20] works, the people all get together,

[7:04:25] the low riders are there, it's a very

[7:04:26] cool and very --

[7:04:27] >> thank you, mr. Turner.

[7:04:28] >> I wanted to mention, we appreciate

[7:04:31] any attention you give, thank you.

[7:04:32] >> thank you, again, there's a

[7:04:33] motion on the table.

[7:04:36] you know, speakers can choose to speak

[7:04:37] if they want to, if they don't want

[7:04:39] to, they don't have to, correct, madam

[7:04:41] clerk?

[7:04:42] yes.

[7:04:43] >> yes.

[7:04:44] >> yes.

[7:04:45] >> alright, do any of the remaining

[7:04:51] speaker cards like to talk?

[7:04:53] >> we'll go to virtual.

[7:04:54] >> alright, we do have two hands

[7:04:59] raised for virtual, april and then

[7:05:02] dan, three hands, final call for item

[7:05:04] number 20.

[7:05:06] okay, april vargas, please unmute and

[7:05:09] begin.

[7:05:10] >> hi, I'll be brief, my name's april

[7:05:13] vargas, I'm with a volunteer group

[7:05:16] called resistance task force, we had

[7:05:18] the great pleasure to have a booth at

[7:05:20] last year's top of the hill festival.

[7:05:23] I sent the board members an e-mail

[7:05:25] with detailers but we had so many

[7:05:28] people, we were doing non-partisan

[7:05:31] voter registration and voter

[7:05:32] information, we had so many people

[7:05:34] come up with questions.

[7:05:36] I didn't get my ballot, what should I

[7:05:39] do, where's a goaded place for me to

[7:05:40] hand in my ballot because I don't want

[7:05:43] to put it in the mailbox and a lot of

[7:05:46] other discussions about registering to

[7:05:48] vote, whether you're 18 years old, so

[7:05:51] not only is this as previously

[7:05:53] speakers have said a great way for the

[7:05:55] community to come together, it also is

[7:05:57] a really important way for people in

[7:05:59] the community to learn about civic

[7:06:03] engagement, get information about

[7:06:05] community services that are available

[7:06:07] and feel that other people in the

[7:06:09] county want to learn about daly city

[7:06:11] and be part of the greater community,

[7:06:13] so I urge you to pass this request for

[7:06:18] the 75 thousand dollars so this very

[7:06:22] excellent --

[7:06:23] >> thank you, april.

[7:06:24] >> celebration can come forward, thank

[7:06:26] you.

[7:06:27] >> thank you.

[7:06:28] >> alright.

[7:06:30] we do have dan, please unmute and

[7:06:34] begin.

[7:06:35] >> first of all, I would like to

[7:06:37] correct it, I'm using dan's laptop,

[7:06:40] ipad and I can't change it, this is

[7:06:46] theresa, daly city, I just wanted to

[7:06:48] just kind of reiterate what people

[7:06:51] have said, respectfully asking the

[7:06:55] board to consider the top of the hill

[7:06:58] event.

[7:06:59] it is spectacular, we hope to have --

[7:07:01] we mad 20, 30 thousand people, I'm

[7:07:04] guessing maybe 50 thousand, so please

[7:07:06] consider it, we thank you for your

[7:07:07] consideration and hope to see you

[7:07:08] there.

[7:07:09] thank you.

[7:07:10] >> thank you, theresa.

[7:07:11] >> thank you.

[7:07:12] >> that was our last speaker I think.

[7:07:14] >> that is our last speaker.

[7:07:15] >> we have a motion and a second.

[7:07:19] I want to say something real quick.

[7:07:22] I'm going to say it.

[7:07:24] I believe this is the third year that

[7:07:26] you've had this measure k item and I

[7:07:30] believe the rules for measure k are

[7:07:32] that we're only supposed to do

[7:07:35] one-time for measure k funds and so I

[7:07:39] think that we -- in light of the

[7:07:43] situation that we're in with vlf

[7:07:47] funding, we need to be more careful

[7:07:49] about that and make sure we're

[7:07:52] communicating to our organizations

[7:07:53] and to our cities and to everyone that

[7:07:56] they are probably not going to be able

[7:07:58] to rely on this funding going

[7:07:59] forward and also the rules for measure

[7:08:02] k are tech flick that it's supposed to

[7:08:04] be one-time only and if by some

[7:08:06] miracle we are able to figure out our

[7:08:10] in lieu vlf situation, we either need

[7:08:13] to update our measure k rules to allow

[7:08:17] for it to not be one-time so I will be

[7:08:20] voting for it today but I do

[7:08:25] think that we should be following the

[7:08:28] rules of measure k, so roll call vote,

[7:08:32] please.

[7:08:33] >> supervisor speier is absent.

[7:08:34] supervisor mueller?

[7:08:35] >> yes.

[7:08:36] >> supervisor gauthier?

[7:08:37] >> yes.

[7:08:38] >> supervisor canepa

[7:08:39] >> yes.

[7:08:40] >> president corzo?

[7:08:41] >> yes.

[7:08:42] >> motion passes.

[7:08:44] >> okay, we are now moving --

[7:08:45] >> congrats, we are moving on to item

[7:08:52] number 12 can which I believe is a

[7:08:53] public hearing.

[7:08:55] I don't remember which one but you are

[7:08:59] going to tell us, thank you.

[7:09:04] >> thanks, good afternoon, president

[7:09:06] corzo and supervisors, executive

[7:09:08] staff, item number 12 is consideration

[7:09:10] of an amendment to our local coastal

[7:09:14] program, policy 1.23 which establishes

[7:09:16] an annual limit on the number of new

[7:09:19] residential units that may be

[7:09:20] permitted within the mid coast urban

[7:09:23] area to 40 unit per year with limited

[7:09:27] exceptions for affordable housing

[7:09:32] units.

[7:09:33] as the supervisors know, our local

[7:09:35] coastal program, our lcp is part of

[7:09:38] the county general plan that regulates

[7:09:40] development in the coastal zone and

[7:09:42] has specific provisions for the mid

[7:09:44] coast urban area which extends north

[7:09:46] from the city of half moon bay to and

[7:09:49] including the community of montera, with

[7:09:51] regard to the growth limit, the lcp had a

[7:09:54] a limit of 125 units per year, in

[7:09:57] 2006, the county proposed reducing

[7:09:59] that to 75 units, that was not

[7:10:02] acceptable to the coastal commission

[7:10:04] and we negotiated what is currently in

[7:10:07] place, a limit of 40 units per year.

[7:10:10] the reason those limits are in place

[7:10:12] is due to concerns regarding this

[7:10:15] efficiency of infrastructure,

[7:10:17] particularly roadways, wastewater

[7:10:19] systems and the 40% equates to a

[7:10:23] 1% growth rate which is similar to the

[7:10:25] city of half moon bay.

[7:10:28] this growth limit will remain in

[7:10:30] effect until such a time that a

[7:10:33] comprehensive transportation

[7:10:34] management plan is certified by the

[7:10:36] coastal commission, stormwater and

[7:10:39] sewage facilities are improved.

[7:10:41] >> is a hearing required on this?

[7:10:42] >> yes.

[7:10:43] >> it is, okay.

[7:10:46] >> I will go as quickly as I can, so,

[7:10:50] as I noted, there's exception to the

[7:10:53] 40 unit limit for affordable housing

[7:10:56] where we're allowed to exceed the 40

[7:10:58] unit limit only for affordable housing

[7:11:01] projects but that comes out of

[7:11:03] subsequent years so, over the three

[7:11:05] year period, we can't approve more

[7:11:08] than 120 units.

[7:11:11] the key issue here is we exceeded this

[7:11:13] limit in 2025 when we approved the

[7:11:17] cypress point affordable housing

[7:11:18] project.

[7:11:19] as a result, the county is not limited

[7:11:22] to issuing permits for 18 residential

[7:11:26] units until 2028.

[7:11:30] we've had to stop accepting building

[7:11:32] applications and we've been working

[7:11:34] hard to come up with a solution

[7:11:35] acceptable to the community.

[7:11:39] so, another consideration of course is

[7:11:41] our housing almost.

[7:11:43] there's a policy in housing element,

[7:11:45] we were required to have by the state

[7:11:48] to address the quota which is a

[7:11:53] concern statewide to the housing and

[7:11:55] community development department.

[7:11:59] per policy 11.6, should we reach the

[7:12:01] cap, we are required to within one

[7:12:04] calendar year pursue an amendment to

[7:12:06] that cap to increase it by 50%.

[7:12:12] okay, another key issue to keep in

[7:12:16] mind is that we have averaged about 30

[7:12:21] units per year over the past six

[7:12:23] years so, by being limited to 18 units

[7:12:25] this year, there will be a pent up

[7:12:28] demand for additional units that will

[7:12:31] cascade into future years.

[7:12:37] so, the options available to the

[7:12:39] [inaudible] fall into two buckets, the

[7:12:41] first is we can propose to increase a

[7:12:43] cap, that's going to require coastal

[7:12:46] commission approval and detailed

[7:12:48] consideration of all the bulleted

[7:12:52] items on this slide.

[7:12:57] another alternative is to maintain the

[7:12:59] cap and change the method of averaging.

[7:13:02] we are pursuing the latter, it's clear

[7:13:05] from our work with the community that

[7:13:06] many do not support an increase in the

[7:13:10] cap due to concerns about

[7:13:12] infrastructure, so our proposed

[7:13:13] solution keeps the cap but allows us

[7:13:16] to take advantage of unused credits

[7:13:18] from prior years.

[7:13:22] this approach was endorsed by the

[7:13:24] planning commission in may where the

[7:13:27] community council had some significant

[7:13:29] concerns about it in response to their

[7:13:31] concerns, we convened a community

[7:13:33] meeting where we presented

[7:13:36] alternatives and I will share that

[7:13:39] here.

[7:13:40] we had five alternatives, do nothing,

[7:13:44] change the method looking forward, two

[7:13:47] options of that, and then the option e

[7:13:50] is the one that staff is recommending,

[7:13:53] use the unused permits from past years

[7:13:56] dating back to 2013 when this cap

[7:14:02] was established and then was

[7:14:04] to only go back ten years.

[7:14:06] as you can see on the right, we had a

[7:14:10] large majority of participants support

[7:14:13] the looking back approach with the

[7:14:17] majority supporting looking back to

[7:14:18] 2013.

[7:14:19] this is the data from the night we

[7:14:21] convened the community meeting.

[7:14:23] we took a live poll but we kept it

[7:14:25] open for another few days and here

[7:14:28] are the results from july 4, no

[7:14:32] significant change, still a large

[7:14:34] majority in favor of what staff is

[7:14:36] proposing.

[7:14:37] so here's the text of the amendment

[7:14:39] that we are asking for your approval

[7:14:42] of and the main part is number 2.

[7:14:46] the portion in blue below is what

[7:14:49] we're proposing where the annual

[7:14:51] average number of permits issued from

[7:14:54] january 2013 which is the year that

[7:14:55] the growth limit was adopted through

[7:14:58] and including the year of building

[7:15:01] permit issue does not exceed 40 units

[7:15:04] per year.

[7:15:05] in other words we keep the cap but

[7:15:07] look backwards to the underutilized

[7:15:09] units that shown on the table to the

[7:15:11] right.

[7:15:12] you can see in 2025 where we exceeded

[7:15:15] the cap, what we're doing is we're

[7:15:17] averaging out the amount that we

[7:15:20] exceeded and that's shown in the light

[7:15:23] blue to the left, that's taken out of

[7:15:27] the orange portion which the orange

[7:15:31] represents units that were not

[7:15:33] permitted.

[7:15:34] we didn't have that many applications,

[7:15:38] so that's the recommendation.

[7:15:41] the coastal commission reviewed an

[7:15:44] approval of this amendment would be

[7:15:46] required, that serves as the

[7:15:48] functional equivalent of ceqa, we're

[7:15:50] asking you to adopt a rec resolution

[7:15:54] directing staffer to submit this local

[7:15:56] coastal amendment to the coastal

[7:15:57] commission.

[7:15:58] >> I move we open the public hearing.

[7:16:02] >> supervisor speier?

[7:16:03] >> aye.

[7:16:04] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:16:05] >> yes.

[7:16:06] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:16:07] >> supervisor canepa?

[7:16:08] >> yes.

[7:16:09] >> and president corzo?

[7:16:10] >> aye.

[7:16:11] >> motion passes to open the hearing.

[7:16:13] >> let's move on to public comment.

[7:16:15] >> alright, I do not have any public

[7:16:17] comment.

[7:16:18] we do have one hand raised online.

[7:16:20] anne, if you can please unmute.

[7:16:26] and begin.

[7:16:36] anne, can you unmute.

[7:16:39] >> sorry, am I on now?

[7:16:40] >> thank you, sorry, I was speaking to

[7:16:43] myself.

[7:16:44] >> the planning department and the

[7:16:45] board of supervisors were aware the

[7:16:48] approval of cypress point, moss beach

[7:16:50] would use all the 40 per year building

[7:16:54] permits per year.

[7:16:55] during the approval process,

[7:16:57] supervisor mueller requested that the

[7:16:59] county be funding additional

[7:17:05] infrastructure because the area in

[7:17:07] moss beach really has none, so I'm

[7:17:11] just concerned that this cypress point

[7:17:15] has really caused a lot of problems

[7:17:16] for the area and I think a lot of this

[7:17:19] was probably preventable had the

[7:17:21] approval not be given when it was.

[7:17:26] however, right now, if you look at

[7:17:28] safety, children walking to school and

[7:17:29] pedestrians, the only way that they

[7:17:32] can get to pharaoh mount view is to

[7:17:34] walk on a dirt a path next to a ravine

[7:17:39] and highway 1, that is not safe for

[7:17:40] anybody, there are almost no

[7:17:43] sidewalks in a lot of montera which is

[7:17:47] their route to school and for this

[7:17:50] reason and the fact there regaling --

[7:17:53] there's not even a single traffic

[7:17:56] light in town, I'm requesting again

[7:17:59] that you pleat support housing for

[7:18:02] seniors at this location where their

[7:18:04] needs can be met in a centralized way

[7:18:10] and it won't burden the surrounding

[7:18:12] areas or put at risk the lives of

[7:18:15] children or people when trying to get

[7:18:17] to school.

[7:18:19] two, if they try to cross highway 1 to

[7:18:21] get to the bus stop and there's no safe

[7:18:23] crossing and there's no funding with

[7:18:27] the vehicle license fee now being

[7:18:28] taken a away, there's going to be no

[7:18:31] funding that the county can even

[7:18:35] provide.

[7:18:36] so, I'm just requesting again that you

[7:18:38] consider designating this as senior

[7:18:39] housing so that these other issues can

[7:18:42] be addressed in the future.

[7:18:43] thank you for your consideration.

[7:18:45] >> thank you.

[7:18:46] that concludes public comment.

[7:18:48] >> thank you.

[7:18:50] any comments from my colleagues?

[7:18:52] >> move we close the public hearing.

[7:18:54] >> thank you.

[7:18:57] >> supervisor speier?

[7:18:58] >> aye.

[7:18:59] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:19:00] >> yes.

[7:19:01] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:19:02] supervisor canepa?

[7:19:04] >> president corzo?

[7:19:05] >> yes.

[7:19:06] >> motion passes to close the public

[7:19:08] hearing.

[7:19:09] >> is there a motion to adopt the item?

[7:19:12] >> moved.

[7:19:13] >> second.

[7:19:14] >> we did extensive outreach, it's

[7:19:19] conditionally supported under the

[7:19:21] [inaudible] council, I think we're

[7:19:24] in good shape.

[7:19:25] >> thank you.

[7:19:26] roll call vote, please.

[7:19:27] >> supervisor speier?

[7:19:28] >> aye.

[7:19:29] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:19:30] >> yes.

[7:19:31] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:19:32] supervisor canepa?

[7:19:33] >> aye.

[7:19:34] >> president corzo?

[7:19:35] >> yes.

[7:19:36] >> the motion passes.

[7:19:37] >> we are moving on to our second

[7:19:40] public hearing, take it away, mr. Monowitz?

[7:19:42] >> thank you, item 13 is a five lot

[7:19:45] subdivision on cordilleras way that

[7:19:48] requires approval of a general plan

[7:19:51] map amendment, major subdivision

[7:19:53] grading permit, tree removal permit

[7:19:56] and associated mitigated negative

[7:19:59] declaration.

[7:20:00] so, the main reason this item

[7:20:08] is before the board, the major

[7:20:12] subdivision grading permits, tree

[7:20:16] removal permit and mitigated negative

[7:20:19] declaration would normally go to

[7:20:21] the planning commission, they

[7:20:22] recommended your board approve it

[7:20:24] along with the general plan amendment.

[7:20:28] here's the location of the site in

[7:20:30] emerald lake hills on the south side

[7:20:33] of cordilleras road.

[7:20:34] this shows the general plan

[7:20:39] designations, the lighter yellow is

[7:20:40] the currently low density and the

[7:20:43] brighter yellow is currently low to

[7:20:46] medium density and I wanted to show

[7:20:47] this slide to show that the proposed

[7:20:50] general plan amendment request is not

[7:20:52] unusual for this neighborhood.

[7:20:55] here' an aerial view of this site.

[7:20:57] you can see it's bisected by the sfpuc

[7:21:03] right-of-way, there are two separate

[7:21:05] apn's but one legal parcel.

[7:21:07] here's the view of the site on

[7:21:10] cordilleras is the site in the

[7:21:13] picture on the left, on the right with

[7:21:18] the white fence, the picture on the

[7:21:21] right, it's on the left side.

[7:21:23] here again is a view of the site, on

[7:21:25] the right with the white fence, the

[7:21:28] existing driveway will be moved a

[7:21:31] little bit further east.

[7:21:34] here we have the site plan for the

[7:21:42] subdivision.

[7:21:43] it's five lots, they are all greater

[7:21:44] than 12 thousand square feet.

[7:21:46] the driveway, you can see in the

[7:21:47] middle of the lot serves all five

[7:21:50] lots, there will be two oak trees that

[7:21:52] will be removed and will need to be

[7:21:57] replaced.

[7:21:58] the blue -- hatch blue at the bottom

[7:22:00] of the screen is the detention basins

[7:22:03] for the stormwater and what's

[7:22:04] highlighted in yellow is a five lot

[7:22:07] strip that is required by public works

[7:22:09] to be dedicated towards cordilleras

[7:22:14] road improvements or a future sidewalk.

[7:22:17] the project complies with all relevant

[7:22:18] plans and regulations.

[7:22:22] and the department circulated a

[7:22:26] negative declaration, we received

[7:22:27] comments, some from the department of

[7:22:31] toxic substances control who wanted to

[7:22:33] make sure the soil was clean, we've

[7:22:35] attached a condition of approval that

[7:22:38] requires soil testing and then some

[7:22:40] comments from neighbors who were

[7:22:42] concerned about construction impacts,

[7:22:43] those concerns are addressed by the

[7:22:45] conditions of approval particularly

[7:22:47] condition 7 through 17.

[7:22:52] the planning commission considered

[7:22:53] this and recommended approval with a

[7:22:55] 5-0 vote.

[7:22:56] so we're recommending that the board

[7:22:58] approve the general plan amendment,

[7:23:02] subdivision grading permit and

[7:23:05] protected tree removal permit,

[7:23:06] adopting the required findings

[7:23:09] certifying the negative declaration

[7:23:12] and to amend the general plan use map.

[7:23:14] that concludes my presentation, I'm

[7:23:16] happy to answer questions.

[7:23:17] >> is there a motion to open the

[7:23:19] public hearing?

[7:23:20] >> so moved.

[7:23:21] >> thank you.

[7:23:22] roll call.

[7:23:23] >> supervisor speier?

[7:23:24] >> aye.

[7:23:25] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:23:26] >> yes.

[7:23:27] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:23:28] supervisor canepa?

[7:23:30] >> aye.

[7:23:32] >> president corzo?

[7:23:33] >> yes.

[7:23:36] >> motion passes to open the public

[7:23:39] comment.

[7:23:42] >> public comment, please.

[7:23:43] >> I do not have speaker cards in

[7:23:45] chambers.

[7:23:46] if you would like to raise your hand

[7:23:48] on zoom, please raise them now.

[7:23:50] there is no public comment.

[7:23:51] >> is there a motion to close the

[7:23:53] public hearing?

[7:23:54] >> so moved.

[7:23:55] >> roll call.

[7:23:57] >> supervisor speier?

[7:23:58] >> aye.

[7:23:59] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:24:00] >> yes.

[7:24:02] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:24:03] supervisor canepa?

[7:24:05] >> aye.

[7:24:06] >> president corzo?

[7:24:07] >> yes.

[7:24:09] >> it passes.

[7:24:10] >> is there a motion to approve?

[7:24:12] >> I'll move that we approve the

[7:24:18] resolution.

[7:24:19] >> wait, there are actually three items

[7:24:21] to approve for this one, correct?

[7:24:23] >> that's correct.

[7:24:24] >> if you could put up the slide.

[7:24:28] >> c, d and e is the proposed general

[7:24:31] plan amendment.

[7:24:32] the resolution adopting the mitigated

[7:24:36] neg dec for the various actions and

[7:24:37] the resolution to amend the county

[7:24:40] general plan land use maps.

[7:24:42] >> can they be approved in one motion.

[7:24:44] >> one motion for all three.

[7:24:45] >> yes.

[7:24:46] >> I move we move the general plan

[7:24:51] amendment, adopt the mitigated

[7:24:54] negative dec, adopt the motion to

[7:24:57] amend the general plan.

[7:24:59] >> it was the general plan amendment,

[7:25:01] grading permit and a perked tree

[7:25:04] removal permit, all of those things

[7:25:05] were part of item c.

[7:25:07] >> and second?

[7:25:08] >> second.

[7:25:09] >> roll call, please.

[7:25:11] >> supervisor speier?

[7:25:12] >> aye.

[7:25:13] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:25:14] >> yes.

[7:25:15] >> supervisor gauthier is

[7:25:16] absent.

[7:25:17] >> supervisor canepa?

[7:25:18] >> aye.

[7:25:19] >> president corzo?

[7:25:20] >> yes.

[7:25:21] >> motion to approve c, d and e.

[7:25:22] >> thank you.

[7:25:24] >> great.

[7:25:28] moving on to item number 14.

[7:25:29] welcome.

[7:25:40] >> good evening.

[7:25:42] >> I'm sorry too.

[7:25:43] >> we're all sorry, right.

[7:25:50] good evening, board members, --

[7:25:54] >> director tory newman, you're up.

[7:25:58] >> president corzo, I'm here today to

[7:26:04] present on an introduction of an

[7:26:06] ordinance to introduce a speed

[7:26:08] limit at a school zone in a portion of

[7:26:10] bay road, this is a stand alone item,

[7:26:13] this is similar to previous actions

[7:26:17] with redwood city and atherton.

[7:26:21] because the campus spans redwood city

[7:26:27] and unincorporated designations, this

[7:26:29] will have encroachment

[7:26:31] permits which will create a uniform

[7:26:34] zone across city and county boundaries.

[7:26:39] the area where this focuses on is bay

[7:26:41] road between sixth and haven, shown

[7:26:44] here in red, current speed limit

[7:26:49] within the zone is 30 miles per hour.

[7:26:55] and the proposed --

[7:26:57] >> sorry, I need to reenable our

[7:27:03] interpreter.

[7:27:04] >> okay.

[7:27:27] okay, go ahead.

[7:27:40] >> okay, there we go.

[7:27:43] the proposed speed limit in front of

[7:27:44] the school will remain 30 miles per

[7:27:47] hour, however during school zone,

[7:27:49] we'll be presenting signs for 15 miles

[7:27:51] per hour while children are present.

[7:27:57] this clicker has gotten a workout

[7:28:00] today.

[7:28:01] are there any questions?

[7:28:05] >> supervisor speier?

[7:28:08] >> tory, I think I reacher tout --

[7:28:13] reacher reached out to you, I want to

[7:28:17] be as fast as we can in reducing the

[7:28:20] speed limits.

[7:28:21] we took action two years ago I believe

[7:28:23] and we're now still in the process.

[7:28:24] so, we have it looks like by spring of

[7:28:31] 27, we're going to have all of the

[7:28:33] schools within the unincorporated

[7:28:36] areas, have them evaluated and the

[7:28:38] speeds reduced.

[7:28:39] >> that is correct, we started the

[7:28:41] school limit school zone study, we

[7:28:44] needed the engineering and traffic

[7:28:45] studies to complete the school speed

[7:28:48] limit study, one had to precede the

[7:28:50] other, that's what delayed the initial

[7:28:53] 9-12 month period for the initial

[7:28:56] school traffic study.

[7:28:57] >> you're going to back with us

[7:28:59] with this completed within the next

[7:29:01] six months?

[7:29:02] >> that is correct, yes.

[7:29:04] >> thank you.

[7:29:05] >> thank you, tory.

[7:29:06] public comment?

[7:29:11] >> yes, public comment on item number

[7:29:13] 14, I do not have speaker cards from

[7:29:15] chambers.

[7:29:16] if you would like to speak on this

[7:29:17] item, raise your hand at this time.

[7:29:20] alright, seeing none, we have no

[7:29:21] public comment.

[7:29:22] >> is there a motion?

[7:29:25] >> so moved.

[7:29:26] >> second?

[7:29:28] >> okay, supervisor canepa with a

[7:29:30] second.

[7:29:31] roll call.

[7:29:32] >> supervisor speier?

[7:29:33] >> aye.

[7:29:34] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:29:35] >> yes.

[7:29:36] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:29:37] supervisor canepa?

[7:29:38] >> aye.

[7:29:39] >> president corzo?

[7:29:40] >> yes.

[7:29:42] >> motion passes.

[7:29:43] >> thank you.

[7:29:44] >> okay, thank you.

[7:29:46] moving on to item number 15.

[7:29:53] michael wentworth, director of -- no,

[7:29:55] it's different, tsd.

[7:29:56] >> correct, thank you.

[7:29:58] good evening, president corzo,

[7:29:59] honorable members the board, mr.

[7:30:01] callagy, mr. Anybody lynne.

[7:30:02] due to the hour, I will be very brief.

[7:30:05] I'm endeavoring to be faster than

[7:30:07] everybody else, there are two salient

[7:30:10] points I want to draw for you, you've seen

[7:30:13] this before five other times, mr.

[7:30:15] callagy, and I thought we wanted to

[7:30:19] come before you and give you an

[7:30:21] overview of where we are.

[7:30:22] with the original five items, we

[7:30:25] approved 85 million dollars of

[7:30:27] licensing fund for the county.

[7:30:29] it helps us move, this item takes us

[7:30:35] to 93.5 million.

[7:30:36] this is a good thing you all get to

[7:30:38] see this now.

[7:30:39] so, the whole point of having this

[7:30:42] awareness for you is so you can

[7:30:45] exercise your oversight.

[7:30:46] the second point I wanted to dau you

[7:30:48] to is the -- there is recently a

[7:30:52] passage of sb122 which is the digital

[7:30:55] product tax, that adds a tax to --

[7:30:58] sales tax to all the software we will

[7:31:01] purchase which used to not be taxed so

[7:31:03] that will -- based on the current

[7:31:05] budget of the county, that will bring

[7:31:07] another 5 million dollars in taxes to

[7:31:08] to our departments.

[7:31:10] of course we'll get some of that back

[7:31:12] because that's how taxes work, but

[7:31:16] ultimately we will see about 2 million

[7:31:18] dollars that will pay more than we

[7:31:20] ever had to before for all of our

[7:31:23] software, that's something we need to

[7:31:25] be careful about.

[7:31:26] my teams are astute on negotiating for

[7:31:29] the best prices, that's what we do and

[7:31:31] we have the help and support of the

[7:31:34] county executive's office, the county

[7:31:36] procurement department as well as the

[7:31:38] controller's office and I really want

[7:31:40] to thank my team internally, they do a

[7:31:42] heck of a job.

[7:31:43] with that, I'm happy to take questions.

[7:31:45] >> thank you, any questions?

[7:31:47] >> motion to adopt the resolution.

[7:31:49] >> thank you, is there a second?

[7:31:50] >> second.

[7:31:51] >> okay, before we go to public

[7:31:52] comment, I have an important question

[7:31:54] for you, do you prefer director or

[7:31:57] chief information officer.

[7:31:59] >> I'm talking to tech colleagues, the

[7:32:01] ceo, that's how we all talk to each

[7:32:04] other, director from just here.

[7:32:07] >> okay, public comment, please.

[7:32:09] >> public comment on item 15, we have

[7:32:11] no speaker cards in chambers.

[7:32:12] if you would like to make a comment

[7:32:13] online, raise your hand at this time.

[7:32:17] >> seeing no hands raised, we have no

[7:32:18] public comment.

[7:32:19] >> thank you, is there a motion?

[7:32:21] did we take a motion?

[7:32:22] okay, roll call.

[7:32:23] >> supervisor speier?

[7:32:24] >> aye.

[7:32:25] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:32:26] >> yes.

[7:32:27] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:32:28] supervisor canepa?

[7:32:29] >> aye.

[7:32:30] >> president corzo?

[7:32:31] >> yes.

[7:32:32] >> motion passes.

[7:32:33] >> thank you.

[7:32:35] next is item 16, interim urgency

[7:32:39] ordinance.

[7:32:40] and I will invite supervisor mueller

[7:32:44] to introduce this first reading.

[7:32:47] >> it only requires one reading.

[7:32:50] >> one reading.

[7:32:53] >> and I think we've covered it in our

[7:32:55] last meeting, I'm just going to go

[7:32:58] ahead and introduce the item and say

[7:32:59] let's vote.

[7:33:00] I'll make a motion to move the

[7:33:03] ordinance.

[7:33:04] >> okay.

[7:33:10] public comment?

[7:33:12] >> alright, public comment on item

[7:33:15] number 16, I do not have speaker cards

[7:33:17] in chambers.

[7:33:18] going online for public comment, if

[7:33:19] you would like to make a comment at

[7:33:21] this time, please raise your hand.

[7:33:23] seeing no hands raised, no public

[7:33:25] comment.

[7:33:26] >> if I might, madam

[7:33:31] president, notwithstanding the hour, I

[7:33:32] want to say a couple of things, as

[7:33:33] noted, the this ordinance, the way the

[7:33:37] government code works, the findings

[7:33:39] that the board is making goes into

[7:33:42] effect immediately and it will impose

[7:33:44] a moratorium on the siting permitting

[7:33:51] developing, operating of detention

[7:33:54] facilities and correctional facility as

[7:33:56] defined in the urgency ordinance.

[7:33:58] the board will have to if the board

[7:34:00] seeks to extend this matter which will

[7:34:03] -- this ordinance which can only be in

[7:34:06] effect for 45 days without extending

[7:34:07] will have to come back for a noticed

[7:34:10] public hearing within that 45 day

[7:34:13] speeder, we'll be back to you within

[7:34:15] 45 days for that purpose.

[7:34:17] the ordinance itself, the urgency

[7:34:20] ordinance can be extended for a total

[7:34:21] of up to two years in increments which

[7:34:26] we can talk some more about at a

[7:34:27] later date.

[7:34:32] >> okay.

[7:34:33] thank you.

[7:34:35] roll call vote, please.

[7:34:37] >> supervisor speier?

[7:34:39] >> aye.

[7:34:40] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:34:41] >> yes.

[7:34:42] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:34:43] supervisor canepa?

[7:34:44] >> aye.

[7:34:45] >> president corzo?

[7:34:46] >> yes.

[7:34:47] >> motion passes.

[7:34:48] >> okay, thank you.

[7:34:49] >> I want to say thank you to county

[7:34:51] counsel's office for their quick work

[7:34:52] on that.

[7:34:53] >> thank you, john.

[7:34:54] moving on to item number 18, and that

[7:35:04] is a resolution with the san francisco

[7:35:07] public health foundation for the pride

[7:35:09] center.

[7:35:10] >> thank you, madam chair, members of

[7:35:12] the board, I know it's been a long

[7:35:14] day, I'll go quickly on this, really

[7:35:19] no fault of its own, the pride center

[7:35:21] of san mateo county finds itself in

[7:35:24] dire straits financially and may be

[7:35:27] going out of business the end of this

[7:35:29] month, lost their home when samaritan

[7:35:33] house went under --

[7:35:34] >> not samaritan house.

[7:35:38] >> I'm sorry, star vista.

[7:35:42] >> samaritan house is in great shape,

[7:35:45] when star vista went under and they lost

[7:35:48] their ability to bill because they

[7:35:51] didn't have a home for clinicians to

[7:35:53] charge people from which is required.

[7:35:54] they also had their funding from

[7:35:57] bhrs reduced from 800 thousand down to

[7:36:00] 100 thousand.

[7:36:02] so, with this grant of 350 thousand

[7:36:05] dollars, it's our hope that it will

[7:36:09] start to rebuild, they're going to get

[7:36:14] their 50 c-3 status, build a board,

[7:36:16] start billing as we try to get them

[7:36:17] into one of the locations on mahler

[7:36:22] and burbling fwaim so they have a home

[7:36:24] and then start the board fundraising

[7:36:27] to become self-sufficient, so this is

[7:36:28] -- what we see is a temporary measure

[7:36:32] to keep them alive and operational in

[7:36:37] the county while they rebuild.

[7:36:40] happy to answer any questions you may

[7:36:44] have.

[7:36:47] >> thank you.

[7:36:50] I don't think we have any questions.

[7:36:54] I'm really grateful to -- I'm sorry,

[7:36:59] I'm so tired, I'm just like -- to

[7:37:03] linda and tanya for working on behalf

[7:37:05] of the county executive's office, to,

[7:37:09] you know, help us develop a plan,

[7:37:12] gather all the information and to fran

[7:37:17] -- frankie and everyone at the pride

[7:37:21] center, yeah, I'm glad we can do this

[7:37:22] and I -- do we have a motion already?

[7:37:27] I'll motion to approve this item.

[7:37:28] is there a second?

[7:37:30] >> second.

[7:37:31] >> thank you.

[7:37:32] public comment?

[7:37:35] >> public comment on item number 18, I

[7:37:37] do not have speaker cards in chambers.

[7:37:39] we will be going online, this is going

[7:37:40] to be a final call.

[7:37:43] right now I have four hands raised,

[7:37:46] we'll start with tatum, please

[7:37:48] unmute and begin.

[7:37:52] >> sorry, my speech isn't too good,

[7:37:56] I'm a resident of san mateo county

[7:37:58] speaking in support of this item.

[7:38:03] I'm a resident and member of the

[7:38:05] community, I appreciate your efforts

[7:38:06] as well as the county executive as

[7:38:09] well as frankie and the commission to

[7:38:14] support the lgbtqia+ community here.

[7:38:18] it needs -- means as lot by their

[7:38:22] actions especially trying to find

[7:38:23] space and I want to point out that per

[7:38:25] the san mateo county health office and

[7:38:31] epidemiology evaluation and wellness,

[7:38:33] they had completed a survey in 2022 or

[7:38:37] 23, I know it is dated but there are

[7:38:41] needs by the community in some of

[7:38:46] these statistics that are pretty

[7:38:48] alarming, it is the community that had

[7:38:55] reported the highest mental or

[7:38:57] emotional problems, highest reported

[7:39:00] that they experienced symptoms of

[7:39:02] depression lasting two plus years and

[7:39:06] thoughts taking one's own life.

[7:39:07] if

[7:39:09] -- in the past year, and the youth had

[7:39:17] suicide ideation as compared to

[7:39:21] non-lgbtqia+ in our community.

[7:39:22] they also had the highest substance

[7:39:25] abuse compared to non-lgbtqi+, so

[7:39:31] obviously these statistics underlie

[7:39:32] the importance of this measure, I

[7:39:34] appreciate again you as a board coming

[7:39:37] together to support the team, they've

[7:39:39] done a lot of great work especially

[7:39:42] as the county executive mentioned, they

[7:39:43] haven't had space and I really

[7:39:46] appreciate the county making this a

[7:39:48] priority to give them a space, thank

[7:39:50] you for your verses and thank you for

[7:39:53] listening in this marathon meeting.

[7:39:56] >> thank you, and next we have vanessa

[7:39:59] and then frankie, vanessa, please

[7:40:02] unmute and begin.

[7:40:08] can you please unmute.

[7:40:09] >> can you all hear me?

[7:40:10] >> yes.

[7:40:12] >> good evening,

[7:40:21] I'm vanessa, thank you for supporting

[7:40:23] the pride center, it has always been

[7:40:26] something than just a physical space,

[7:40:28] it provides a space where lbgtq people

[7:40:33] can find community, resorts, support

[7:40:35] and a ascensive belonging.

[7:40:38] in the county's own health data show

[7:40:42] that is lgbtq residents are

[7:40:46] experiencing high rates of depression

[7:40:49] and suicidal ideation and that makes

[7:40:52] competent spaces in own community

[7:40:54] incredibly important.

[7:40:55] this funding will help

[7:41:00] provide them a sustainable location

[7:41:02] for the future, please support item 18

[7:41:04] and continue investing in the lgbtq

[7:41:07] community here in san mateo county,

[7:41:08] thank you.

[7:41:09] >> alright, thank you, then next we

[7:41:12] have frankie, please unmute and begin.

[7:41:19] >> hello, everyone, this is frankie,

[7:41:20] I'm the director with the san mateo

[7:41:25] county pride center and I wanted to

[7:41:26] thank the county of san mateo for your

[7:41:29] considering providing the funding

[7:41:30] for the pride center, so we can

[7:41:33] continue supporting thousands of

[7:41:36] lgbtq+ individuals every year with our

[7:41:38] clinical services, peer support

[7:41:41] groups, training, community building

[7:41:43] events and connecting people to

[7:41:45] essential resources.

[7:41:47] especially thanking you for continuing

[7:41:49] to power through your very, very long

[7:41:52] day.

[7:41:54] we have experience and influx of

[7:41:57] requests of housing and food support

[7:41:59] and there has been a significant

[7:42:01] increase in bully, hate crimes,

[7:42:06] isolation and suicidal ideation

[7:42:07] amongst our community.

[7:42:08] this funding will allow us to keep our

[7:42:10] doors open to continue supporting our

[7:42:14] community that are -- to continue

[7:42:19] supporting our community that

[7:42:20] desperately relies on our services.

[7:42:21] we greatly appreciate the county's

[7:42:22] support for not just center but the

[7:42:26] lgbtq+ community as a whole.

[7:42:28] thank you very much.

[7:42:30] your support and your continued

[7:42:32] support is very appreciated.

[7:42:35] >> thank you.

[7:42:36] and then lastly we have san mateo

[7:42:38] pride, please unmute and begin.

[7:42:43] >> yes, hello, all.

[7:42:45] good afternoon, my name's alex simon

[7:42:47] gold, the assistant director for the

[7:42:49] san mateo county pride center.

[7:42:51] I just would like to thank the board

[7:42:53] and the county for your significant

[7:42:55] support of our center and for the

[7:43:00] lgbtq plus community.

[7:43:01] this grant you're providing to the

[7:43:03] pride center is crucial to helping us

[7:43:05] stabilize and get back on our feet.

[7:43:07] they will also give us a chance to

[7:43:12] reprint our roots and secure our

[7:43:17] home.

[7:43:18] this will mep increase access to

[7:43:19] services for so many in our community.

[7:43:23] to many, the programs and support

[7:43:25] provided by the pride center are

[7:43:27] necessary and lifesaving.

[7:43:29] as other speakers have already shared,

[7:43:30] we know that lgbtq+ adults if san

[7:43:35] mateo county face higher economic and

[7:43:38] housing instability, worse access to

[7:43:39] care and higher rates anxiety,

[7:43:42] depression and suicide.

[7:43:43] the pride center exists to address

[7:43:45] these needs of the most vulnerable and

[7:43:51] marginalized among us.

[7:43:52] so, thank you for helping to ensure

[7:43:53] that our county remains a high,

[7:43:55] inclusive and affirming community for

[7:43:56] all.

[7:43:57] thank you.

[7:43:58] >> thank you.

[7:43:59] that concludes public comment.

[7:44:00] >> thank you.

[7:44:01] I would like to motion to approve this

[7:44:02] item.

[7:44:03] is there a second?

[7:44:04] >> second.

[7:44:05] >> thank you, roll call vote.

[7:44:06] >> supervisor speier?

[7:44:07] >> aye.

[7:44:08] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:44:09] >> yes.

[7:44:10] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:44:11] supervisor canepa?

[7:44:13] >> yes.

[7:44:14] >> president corzo?

[7:44:15] >> yes.

[7:44:16] >> motion passes.

[7:44:17] >> thank you, moving on to item

[7:44:18] number 19, it's a quarterly report on

[7:44:20] procurement.

[7:44:21] >> I make a motion.

[7:44:22] >> we made a motion to approve

[7:44:23] earlier.

[7:44:24] >> that was moved.

[7:44:25] >> we're on the last item, number 29.

[7:44:28] >> amazing.

[7:44:32] district attorney wagstaff is here to

[7:44:37] present item number 29.

[7:44:40] >> madam president, I moved there from

[7:44:43] consent to the regular agenda and I'm

[7:44:47] offering my apologies to the district

[7:44:49] attorney for having done that, but I

[7:44:53] think it's an important issue and I

[7:44:56] was concerned that the $6 fee doesn't

[7:45:00] cover it and you're underwriting 200

[7:45:02] to 300 thousand dollars a year, I

[7:45:04] think this issue is growing and I

[7:45:05] would like to see us increase the

[7:45:07] fee, so tell us what you're doing.

[7:45:10] >> I will, first of all, no apology

[7:45:12] called for this, it may have

[7:45:13] been one of the productive days

[7:45:15] sitting out in the audience, phone

[7:45:17] never rang, nobody came in and set up

[7:45:20] a meeting so I feel very productive,

[7:45:21] we should do this more often.

[7:45:25] but president corzo and members the

[7:45:28] board, mr. Callagy mr, nibbelin, thank

[7:45:33] you.

[7:45:34] what I really want to do today is tell

[7:45:36] you what we are doing with brevity, to

[7:45:38] that extent, I really do want to turn

[7:45:40] it over and introduce to you mary

[7:45:44] louise christians, she is a deputy

[7:45:47] district attorney with the district's

[7:45:49] attorney's office, she's an

[7:45:50] outstanding prosecutor who has taken

[7:45:52] this assignment on in the course of

[7:45:54] the last year plus.

[7:45:55] she is the one who prepared the report

[7:45:57] that you have before you and can

[7:45:59] address that point.

[7:46:00] I will say that she is the one who has

[7:46:02] been in discussions with our clerk

[7:46:06] assessor about whether or not there

[7:46:07] should be an increase for -- to meet

[7:46:11] their needs, on that line, at this

[7:46:13] point, may I turn it over with your

[7:46:16] permission to ms. Christianson.

[7:46:18] >> yes, welcome.

[7:46:20] >> thank you very much.

[7:46:23] good evening, everyone.

[7:46:25] my name is mary louise christianson,

[7:46:27] I'm a deputy district attorney with

[7:46:29] the da's office.

[7:46:31] I am currently working in the real

[7:46:34] estate fraud unit, I'm the sole

[7:46:36] prosecutor in that unit, that unit

[7:46:38] consists of myself and our

[7:46:43] investigator, john column.

[7:46:45] I also prosecute insurance fraud and

[7:46:49] contracting cases, contractors would

[7:46:50] contract without proper licensing.

[7:46:54] the real estate fraud unit has been

[7:46:56] busy this year, we currently have

[7:46:58] three cases in court.

[7:47:00] we just recently obtained a conviction

[7:47:02] for our case that we had which

[7:47:05] included five felony convictions, for

[7:47:08] someone who was filing or proportion

[7:47:12] to inherit a home from somebody who he

[7:47:14] did not know, he consequently filed

[7:47:18] false documents with the coroner's

[7:47:21] office and tried to sell this home in daly

[7:47:23] city two times to two different real

[7:47:25] estate companies, but ultimately he

[7:47:27] was not successful in those efforts

[7:47:30] but we were able to prosecute him and

[7:47:32] he is set for sentencing next month,

[7:47:38] and then also we've launched this year

[7:47:41] the real estate fraud notification

[7:47:42] program which is a program that we had

[7:47:46] been working on and that we came -- my

[7:47:49] colleague came in front of the board I

[7:47:51] think over a year ago now asking for

[7:47:53] an increase in that recording fee to

[7:47:57] $6 so we could implement that program.

[7:47:59] so, that program has now been

[7:48:02] implemented and whenever a deed is

[7:48:03] recorded in san mateo county, the

[7:48:07] homeowner is alerted of that recording

[7:48:09] with a letter, a notification, a

[7:48:12] courtesy letter they are sent to make

[7:48:15] them aware of that recording and on

[7:48:17] that letter, we do the tell them if

[7:48:19] you're aware of this recording, great,

[7:48:21] no further action needs to be done,

[7:48:23] but the you're not aware of this

[7:48:25] recording, please contact the da's

[7:48:27] office because there could be possible

[7:48:29] fraud happening.

[7:48:31] so, that program launched in april, we

[7:48:35] have consequently sent out I think

[7:48:38] almost I think 20 thousand letters so

[7:48:42] far and we've had -- we haven't had

[7:48:45] any cases so far but we've had a

[7:48:47] couple of investigations that have

[7:48:48] been started as a result of that.

[7:48:52] I'm happy to answer any other

[7:48:54] questions the board may have?

[7:48:56] >> any other questions?

[7:48:57] >> on the 20 thousand letters, you

[7:49:02] know, jeffrey who's an assessor in los

[7:49:04] angeles county, they do what's an

[7:49:06] e-mail notification because there's

[7:49:07] fraud that takes place.

[7:49:08] I don't know if there's enabling state

[7:49:12] legislation, but when you say letters,

[7:49:13] you're talking about e-mails, correct?

[7:49:16] >> they're physical letters that are

[7:49:17] mailed in the mail, the u.s. Postage.

[7:49:19] >> okay, great.

[7:49:20] we should probably -- I support this,

[7:49:23] we should probably talk online just

[7:49:25] because the issue with the letter

[7:49:28] sometimes is by the time they get it,

[7:49:32] right, there may be some issues

[7:49:34] and maybe leveraging e-mail or other

[7:49:38] technologies could get to them faster.

[7:49:40] >> supervisor speier?

[7:49:43] >> so, why don't we raise the fee so

[7:49:47] that we're not subsidizing this?

[7:49:49] it's a great service to the public.

[7:49:50] >> so, yes, I do also want to say that

[7:50:02] the jjdpc could not start their

[7:50:03] meeting until we finish this zoom and

[7:50:05] I want us to have a thoughtful

[7:50:08] conversation, so yes, please answer

[7:50:10] and --

[7:50:11] >> there's a couple of questions that

[7:50:14] you have opposed, supervisor, in

[7:50:16] terms, number one, in terms of raising

[7:50:18] the fee, we're talking, we've had two

[7:50:20] meetings with the county attorney's

[7:50:22] office and with mr. Azari of the clerk

[7:50:27] assessor's office and of course to

[7:50:29] continue those conversations next year

[7:50:30] about that very point.

[7:50:32] they are preparing to bring back to us

[7:50:35] a memo explaining what exactly are

[7:50:37] their costs, so then we can intel

[7:50:39] generally -- because our option

[7:50:41] available is we can request of the

[7:50:43] board to the increase to be one of 7,

[7:50:47] 8, 9 or 10.

[7:50:49] the fee that I have stated and the

[7:50:52] one I've always had, I don't want to

[7:50:54] ask for an increase except for what

[7:50:55] our costs are.

[7:50:56] >> I don't want to impose on the

[7:50:58] taxpayers money that we could use for

[7:51:00] other purposes in these difficult

[7:51:02] times, so it's a conversation that's

[7:51:05] ongoing.

[7:51:06] I suspect we will be coming back to

[7:51:07] you to ask for that, but we want to

[7:51:09] do it when we have data.

[7:51:12] everything's data driven and we will

[7:51:13] do so.

[7:51:14] >> I move adoption.

[7:51:15] >> thank you, public comment?

[7:51:17] >> alright, public comment on item 29,

[7:51:19] if you would like to make a public

[7:51:21] comment online, raise your hand at

[7:51:22] this time.

[7:51:23] we have no speaker cards from

[7:51:24] chambers.

[7:51:25] no public comment.

[7:51:26] >> thank you, roll call vote.

[7:51:27] >> supervisor speier?

[7:51:28] >> aye.

[7:51:29] >> supervisor mueller?

[7:51:30] >> yes.

[7:51:32] >> supervisor gauthier is absent.

[7:51:33] supervisor canepa?

[7:51:34] and president corzo?

[7:51:36] >> yes.

[7:51:37] >> motion passes.

[7:51:38] >> thank you, we are now adjourned at

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