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Where you going?
>> Good afternoon everyone and welcome to
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our special council meeting of Tuesday,
August 25th, 2026. I will now call the
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meeting to order and acknowledge that we
are in Migmagi, the ancestral and seated
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territory of the Migmagi people.
Uh administrative and procedural issues
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for today, 2.1 is approval of the
agenda. The recommended motion is that
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the agenda be approved as presented. If
we could use our raise our hands for
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today, um moved by Councillor Lockhart,
seconded by Deputy Mayor Ghoul. All
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those in favor, raise your hand.
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Motion's carried. Thank you very much.
Um 2.2, uh I will direct your attention
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to the municipal conflict of interest
act and uh requ- as you were required to
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declare conflict of interest prior to
any discussion on the matter.
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Three, organizational policy and bylaw
items. 3.1 is first reading of the bylaw
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to amend the LUB 26-11,
temporary pause on accepting AI data
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center development permit applications.
Mr. Harid, I'll give you the floor.
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» Thank you, Your Worship. Um
the actual uh item for for council's um
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consideration is is pretty brief. I I
just want to take a
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couple of minutes though to uh
reiterate, explain, and emphasize the
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reason for today's meeting and and the
reasoning behind it being a virtual
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meeting and um the the the time that was
the selected. Um because there are lots
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of conversations out there, even some of
amongst um members of council about um
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exactly what we're doing and I think
it's important that members of the
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public understand that, too. So, today
um is the very first uh meeting Today's
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meeting is very first in the process of
council uh considering putting
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regulations in place to uh specific to
AI data centers.
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The only purpose of the bylaw amendment
that's before you today is to implement
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a pause for 6 months for receiving and
processing
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uh at potential applications for
development permits related to these
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facilities while staff and the
consultants who are working on our
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comprehensive, mind you, bylaw and
municipal planning strategy review
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uh do the work they need to bring these
um regulations forward.
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Um
as most of you know, as folks on council
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would know and and perhaps members of
the public don't, um the process today
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after first reading, uh there will be a
if if council is so inclined to approve
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the motion that's before you, the um
uh first reading and notice of intent
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will be approved and then we'll proceed
to schedule public hearing uh in the
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council chambers in Upper Tantallon
sometime in September where members of
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the public will be welcomed to come and
um
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um take part in the public hearing and
uh provide and share their
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um their opinions and their concerns um
with council and members of the public.
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After that public hearing, um there
would be a a
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another period of a few days or a few
weeks and council would then consider
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second reading of the bylaw. If that
second reading were approved, then um
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the moratorium would be in place.
The pause on accepting applications,
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which is a moratorium, would be in place
uh for 6 months while this
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work goes on in the background.
After today's first reading, if council
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approves first reading today,
um we will staff of the municipality
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will be precluded from accepting and
processing any um applications for
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development permit relative to these
sorts of facilities.
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Hopefully those comments give folks some
comfort in terms of what's going on and
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what process is.
Today is just about the pause, just
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about the moratorium.
There is more work to do and it will be
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ongoing as part of the larger review
that's been going on now for about a
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year.
Um
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and when those regulations come forward
as part of the bigger package, again,
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there will be a separate process where
there will be a first reading like
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today, although it will take much, much
longer because it'll be a much larger
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document.
Um
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those documents will be available to the
public. There will be another public
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hearing, um
at least one, um for folks to be able to
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express their opinions and understand
the issues. And then council again, um
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will go through second reading and and
um
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final final approval.
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Um
we're putting a 6-month we're proposing
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to put a 6-month pause on accepting
these applications.
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If the work
the larger the work, the wider work on
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the land use bylaw, regulate uh
bylaw and the municipal planning
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strategy
for some reason takes longer than 6
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months,
council at the time can reconvene and
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consider whether another 6-month
extension to this
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moratorium or pause is appropriate.
Um our our legal counsel has advised us
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that in
in situations like these, that that
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process is a reasonable one and and
reasonability is key in
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uh ensuring that uh we do this right and
then we do this with all due regard for
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uh for process.
Um some conversation about um
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having this meeting online rather than
in person. So, two things to say about
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that.
This is um
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notice of intent first reading. Again,
as I described, there's there two more
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steps in this process alone.
This
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if it weren't for me talking forever,
this would be an exceedingly uh short
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meeting because there's just there's
just one item. So,
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the decision was taken to have it
virtually rather than have um
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nine members council uh drive in from
from all parts of the municipality for a
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20-minute meeting.
Um
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that was the first consideration. The
second consideration is one of
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timeliness.
Once council, to reiterate, once council
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approves first reading, if they do, then
we are precluded from processing these
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sorts of applications if they if they
come. So, it was incumbent upon us to
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have this meeting as early on the
calendar as we could so that more pages
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didn't flip on the calendar and more
opportunities for these sorts of
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applications um
to be
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received would occur.
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Really clearly, though,
I'm just about done.
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Really clearly,
um
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we at this point are not uh in receipt
of any sorts of um
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uh inquiries.
We are not aware um of potential
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applications. Our staff are not engaged
with anyone kicking the tires about an
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application. This is simply a proactive
action by this council
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based on the fact that um there are
concerns in the community about these
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sorts of facilities
and um
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council wanted to get ahead of ahead of
the issue.
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So,
with that as a background,
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I don't think I forgot anything. With
that as a background,
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uh, the item before you is
a bylaw to amend the land use bylaw.
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Uh,
as I stated earlier, members of council
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were hearing significant degree of
community-based concern regarding
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potential development of AI data
centers.
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And, um,
wish to complete the ongoing
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comprehensive review of the MPS and LUB
before potentially having to consider
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any such application.
So, creating some space and time
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um,
to get the regulations in place before
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any potential and
applications come forward.
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Back in June,
June seems like so long ago.
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Back in June, uh,
council directed staff to provide
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information on the mechanics of
implementing a moratorium uh, on
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accepting applications for AI data
centers.
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Uh,
those of us who are those of you, sorry,
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I wasn't on council. Those of you who
were on council, um,
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the previous council will recall the
process we followed to put in place a
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moratorium on wind turbine development
while council considered the setback
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requirements and related regulations,
um, relative to wind turbine, um,
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development.
This process is very similar, um, to
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that process. In fact, it's exactly the
same. Change the names, it's it's
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exactly the same.
Now, in terms of any financial
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implications to to, um,
uh, making this decision, at this point
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there are
there aren't any identified. I suppose
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for the sake of completeness, we should
say that,
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um, putting the the moratorium or the
pause in place perhaps has a a negative
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or potential negative impact on the fine
future revenues. It's undefined, but for
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the sake of completeness, we're just,
um,
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we're just uh identifying that.
Uh the couple of alternatives, uh
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Council, you can proceed with first
reading the attached bylaw, which I'll
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read here before we're done. Um
and once the uh first reading has been
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given, no development permit may be
issued in the face of the pending
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changes. That's number one, and that's
the recommended solution, so that's what
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staff are recommending.
Um alternatively, you could allow the
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MPS and LUB to be reviewed to proceed
without enacting a short-term
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moratorium. Uh planning staff do
indicate that they believe that the MPS
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and LUB presently
uh likely don't permit the issue of
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development permit, um but that's not a
that's not a a known quantity. Uh
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Council could allow that development
proceed within the existing
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um provisions of the LUB.
Um as I said, the recommended the
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recommended um
action is to
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pass first reading the bylaw. The bylaw
is at page seven of your of your Council
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package,
um for those of you who are following,
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and it's a very short
uh two-paragraph bylaw bylaw 2611, and
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bylaw to amend the land use bylaw. First
line is it's just it's just the title,
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and then the the the citation. The
second is the actual meat of it. For a
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period of six months commencing on
Council approving first reading of the
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bylaw, no development permit
applications will be received for AI
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data centers while the municipality
completes its comprehensive review of
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the municipal planning strategy and land
use bylaw.
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Upon motion by Council where additional
time is deemed necessary to complete the
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review, this review period may be
expended extended one time by a further
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period of up to six months, and any
applications received following the
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expiry of the review period would be
shall be processed in accordance with
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the requirements in force at the time.
It's important
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um to realize or to understand that the
process
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um has to be reasonable. It has to stand
that test of reasonableness.
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Um
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approving this bylaw at first and second
reading
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does not
prohibit forever
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the development or the developer issuing
development permits for AI data centers.
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Rather, it provides time and gives pause
to the to those that activity to give
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council and staff the opportunity to
develop um
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the regulations.
All of those processes are subject to
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public input. They'll be done in a
public forum.
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There will be public hearings, but this
one is simply about the pause.
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So, the motion, Your Worship, that is
before council is a very simple one.
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And it is that uh that council approve
first reading of bylaw 2611, the bylaw
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to amend the land use bylaw, and further
that staff be directed to schedule a
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public hearing.
I'm happy to answer or try to answer
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any questions that council may have.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Harris.
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Um before I move on to the uh moving of
the motion and whatever, I believe
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Councillor Redman uh would like to say
something. So, go ahead, Councillor
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Redman.
>> Uh thank you. I just wanted Greg for
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taking the time to explain the process.
It's been very confusing for
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constituents, and they've been concerned
about us having um a Zoom meeting, and I
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think the explanation that the CAO gave
was most appropriate, and I thank him
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very much for taking the time to do
that, and hopefully it eases a lot of
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minds. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much, Councillor Redman.
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» Thank you.
>> The recommended motion is that Council
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approve first reading of bylaw 26-11,
the bylaw to amend the land use bylaw.
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Further, that staff be directed to
schedule a public hearing. Someone move
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this second this to make the motion.
Moved by Councillor Redmond, seconded by
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Councillor Hotelling.
Um, any comments or discussion on the
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motion?
Go ahead, Councillor Hotelling.
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» Thank you, Mayor Gilroy. Um
so I just have a few things to say and
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apologies if it seems a little choppy.
Lots of people have been weighing in
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this morning, but I did want to share
comments and concerns
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um that I have been asked to just to
make sure that it's on the record and
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recorded here today.
Uh so, first of all, I just want to say
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that I did write this without AI. I was
trying out AI for some time and admit it
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can be useful, but there are always
there was always something missing, an
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authentic tone that comes from real
humans who are not perfect, and I like
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that. It makes me feel more connected to
the work I do, and it makes me actually
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use my brain. I am not saying I will
never use it. I just want to be clear
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that I am now more than ever paying
close attention to how and why and the
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risks associated with it.
It actually feels like we are being
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forced into using it. I try my best to
delete the options on all platforms now,
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but it keeps popping up. I understand
tech is here and we don't seem to have a
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choice in using it if we are going to be
online, but just for the record, I was
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okay with Google prior to AI.
I think it may be better to have to take
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the time to research properly and
contemplate rather than grabbing a quick
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answer that may or not be truthful, and
I make all my posts, business signage,
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and content using my own creativity now.
Call me old-fashioned, but I think it
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may be best for us as a whole to just
close the computer and and down the
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phone and go outside more often. Maybe
then we wouldn't need more data centers.
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Could it be that simple?
So, here's some things that constituents
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have shared with me.
There is an urgency to this I'm
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noticing. I've read things like we need
to be leaders in data center development
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and if we get on board early, we'll have
a windfall of tax dollars and jobs.
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This rush to sign up leaves little room
for research and data collection on what
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the ripple effect will be for our
residents and the environment. I believe
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this moratorium should be in place as
long as it takes to make an informed
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decision.
Some are comparing Nova Scotia to
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Alberta.
Here in Nova Scotia, when you sneeze,
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the farmer next over catches your cold.
Everything is too close together to have
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space for this type of industry and the
resources it consumes.
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There has been a severe lack of water
during summer months in Cumberland. Over
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the 20 years I have lived in Pugwash, my
own well has gone dry several times and
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I have many residents who have the same
concern.
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In places like Ireland and New South
Wales, they require are requiring tech
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companies to power their data centers
with renewable energy and to provide
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that renewal renewable energy
themselves, adding to the supply.
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Government regulations could force tech
companies to provide and pay for
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enormous new quantities of renewable
energy.
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And I'm talking about actual renewable
energy, not biomass or natural gas, but
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perhaps geothermal, which Cumberland has
spent years researching in Springhill.
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And part of the regulations for a data
center could be providing a community
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with renewable energy as well as their
own.
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Some questions. Will council have a
report on impacts to communities that
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already have data centers?
Will an application to build a data
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center come to council if there is no
moratorium.
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Where is all this data being used? Is it
really Canadians who need this much
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capacity?
Are we able to find this out, or can we
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put something in place that will allow
the data center to only supply data we
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need here in Nova Scotia?
Some have cited to me that we need this
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because of all our banking services,
etc., that have gone online.
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My understanding is that these are
specifically for AI data, but it would
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be good to know exactly what that means.
I have been using online banking for
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some time, and there was not this urgent
need for data centers. I will do my own
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research and find experts who I can ask
without a financial tie to these
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projects to get an un- biased opinion.
There are so many questions at this
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point that we need to know the answers
to. Perhaps there is a benefit that
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outweighs the costs and risks of this,
but I admit I don't know enough about it
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yet, and so I will be voting for the
moratorium until we have a better
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understanding. Thank you.
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» Thank you very much, Councillor
Hotelling. Anyone else have anything to
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say?
Raise your hand.
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Mr. Herritt, go ahead.
>> I Thank you, Your Worship. I just wanted
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to check in to see whether those
questions that Councillor Hotelling
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posed were rhetorical or
she was looking for an answer.
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» Thank you. Um I don't expect an answer
today. I just wanted to put those in
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your
I wanted to plant a seed.
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» What So, thank you for that. Yeah, Your
Worship, Councillor Hotelling, um
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I would expect that um when regulations
come to council, so those things won't
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be part of this proceeding because this
is simply about a pause.
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But when the actual regulations come
forward, the changes to the land use
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bylaw that address this,
um those are
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um
those are reasonable questions to ask uh
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of
consultants and our planning staff and
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council at the time can work their way
through, you know,
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what answers you can get to the to those
um
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to those questions. Just but
but really
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really quickly I I would
think that
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impacts on communities and impacts on um
properties and that are near these
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developments are
kind of sort of what the planning
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process is all about. So, I I I I would
expect that there would be information
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provided on that, counselor.
Um
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you had asked, again maybe rhetorically,
uh
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uh
without this moratorium, would would
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council be would the municipality be
accepting
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applications? I think the answer to that
is
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yeah, they would work their way through
the process. It doesn't mean they would
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necessarily be approved or that they
would be approved as of right or they
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would work their way through that
the the process. So,
[20:20]
all of those things are
questions that
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members of council and the public can
ask when the actual regulations come
[20:27]
forward.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
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Uh Counselor Italian, go ahead.
>> Uh
[20:36]
thank you. Just to be clear, um it was
specifically whether the development
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agreement comes to council, if there's
no moratorium, like is it just through
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staff or does it come to a council for
approval?
[20:51]
» Right. So, thank
Your Worship, yeah. So, if there's a
[20:55]
development So, if the development is by
development agreement, certainly it does
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come to council.
Um
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planning staff advised that there, as I
said in my earlier remarks, they believe
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that the current land use bylaw,
municipal planning strategy,
[21:11]
probably does not permit
the development of these facilities as
[21:16]
it is currently
uh as it is currently written. I'll
[21:20]
interpret that as it certainly has not
as of right in um
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in any zone at this point in time. So,
if that's the case,
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that would come before council.
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I I just do not foresee
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Careful, because I won't be the CAO much
longer, but but I do not foresee
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uh staff bring a staff uh an
an approval for an AI data center
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happening
anytime soon at the staff level without
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council involvement, particularly in the
face of
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you know, bringing forward this pause
and and going through the process. So,
[22:04]
even if the pause
today wasn't
[22:09]
um successful.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Harold. Anyone
[22:13]
else have a comment? Welcome.
[22:16]
Seeing none, I'll ask that we call for
the vote. All those in favor of the
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motion, raise your hand.
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Contrary minded?
Seeing none, the motion is carried
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unanimously. Thank you very much, folks.
And if I could have a motion to adjourn,
[22:31]
that would be good. Moved by Deputy
Mayor Ghoul, we are now adjourned. Thank
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you, everyone, for your participation
today and your input. Oh, Councillor
[22:38]
Redmond, sorry.