[0:03] It looks like the video was on.

[0:04] Is it okay if we do roll call one more time?

[0:06] Sure. Okay.

[0:10] All right.

[0:10] Commissioner. Dante. Present. Commissioner.

[0:14] Present.

[0:14] Commissioner. Sharon. Vice chair.

[0:16] Kumar. Present. Chairman.

[0:18] President.

[0:19] For the record, Commissioner Sharon is absent.

[0:33] We don't have any oral.

[0:36] We don't have any speakers.

[0:40] Okay.

[0:41] So we go to all of minutes. Yes.

[0:50] That. Yes.

[1:17] Okay.

[1:18] We'll take it to a roll call. Vote.

[1:20] Commissioner Dante.

[1:23] Commissioner Garg approved.

[1:26] Vice chair Kumar.

[1:30] The motion carries.

[1:31] Sharon.

[1:45] Exploration.

[1:47] Discussion and consideration of.

[2:03] What are we going to do on this?

[2:07] Just for exploration of committee.

[2:10] To find out how

[2:13] robotics can help.

[2:16] It can

[2:18] be. Number two.

[2:20] Yeah.

[2:21] Number two.

[2:38] So we looked at

[2:40] look at the robotics manufacturing manufacturers.

[2:45] We also look at what our city needs.

[2:47] And we also look at what the other cities are doing.

[2:51] Correct.

[2:53] Yeah.

[2:54] We need to look at the use cases where they can help us right from it.

[2:58] Yeah.

[2:59] Basically basically three areas where do we need

[3:01] what other cities are doing and maybe what robotics companies are capable.

[3:07] Yeah.

[3:08] Right. What

[3:10] robotics robots companies can do for us?

[3:15] We don't have to.

[3:16] What other cities

[3:19] have new citizens?

[3:21] Okay.

[3:23] Lots of companies,

[3:25] 20 of them, like billion dollar funding.

[3:28] And there are lots of companies doing the work in there.

[3:35] So if we go to San Jose conference.

[3:38] We'll have lots of robots. Correct?

[3:40] Nvidia conference.

[3:43] Yeah. Last.

[3:44] Let's come back to the topic.

[3:45] Yeah. Yeah.

[3:47] They were like, is there a segment in the robotics

[3:52] that are robotics that are oriented for the government and the city?

[3:58] I think we need to identify what are the areas.

[4:01] Can we not necessarily the government

[4:04] and see what other cities are doing.

[4:07] Learn from them quickly.

[4:10] And also.

[4:11] So mostly it is like park and recreation kind of stuff.

[4:14] Correct.

[4:15] I also I've seen some in the security area as well.

[4:19] Physical security,

[4:22] physical robots.

[4:23] RoboCop.

[4:29] But I've seen some robots in there

[4:32] that's doing San Francisco band.

[4:35] Correct.

[4:37] We had in San Francisco in the

[4:41] I don't know where, but there was a news like the band.

[4:44] Yeah, I've seen some robot security robots.

[4:49] I mean, security robots.

[4:51] Give me a pause.

[4:52] In the past and in the models, all hospitals

[4:55] and robots going around.

[5:00] That you can

[5:02] some may already be used.

[5:05] For example,

[5:07] I see for cleaning.

[5:12] It happens all the time.

[5:14] Yeah.

[5:16] San Francisco has got a company.

[5:17] Not many company robot companies.

[5:19] So you come to your home and clean your home.

[5:23] Oh, okay. Yeah.

[5:25] In San Francisco now, robots are more advanced.

[5:29] It seems an hour, $30 an hour.

[5:31] Yeah.

[5:32] One of my friends like cleaning my wife.

[5:35] You know certain things, right?

[5:37] They can't clean everything.

[5:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's very. Yes.

[5:43] But I don't say that.

[5:45] They're saying eventually we'll have

[5:47] that. Eventually is not long.

[5:49] Yeah. Yeah.

[5:51] I've seen, like, one of my friends says

[5:53] that robot with that big station. Right.

[5:57] It has it can go and make, you know, the places and floors.

[6:01] And if you want to do like this.

[6:04] How do you, for example, in the hallway

[6:07] here, this whole cleaning can be done.

[6:11] Yeah, yeah.

[6:11] So San Francisco in our office is all the cafeteria floor and everything. So

[6:19] it goes

[6:19] in the the robot means that your person.

[6:22] Robot person is not to say I robot kind of thing.

[6:27] No, no.

[6:28] Same like.

[6:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is industrial.

[6:32] But this one, this for this subcommittee

[6:34] we are talking about humanoid robots and we are talking about any general.

[6:39] Okay. Any robot is right.

[6:41] Because this one, what I am talking about, like in San Francisco,

[6:44] you know, there are videos where humanoid robots will come in remote.

[6:49] Taxi!

[6:50] Come to your home, clean the home and back.

[6:53] And we need to think from the city's point of view.

[6:55] Yeah.

[6:56] What will benefit city? Right.

[6:59] Okay. Right.

[7:00] Yeah.

[7:01] What are the use cases for this?

[7:04] Like?

[7:05] Because it can go now.

[7:07] It can bring wet clothes.

[7:10] Everything.

[7:11] It's not just dry, it's wet, you name it. Or

[7:15] shining.

[7:16] Yeah. Yeah.

[7:17] That will keep signing all the time.

[7:20] Yeah.

[7:20] So anyway, I think the subject is, do we do

[7:24] we need to appoint a subcommittee member, alternate and define the purpose of this.

[7:30] For the purpose is where we can use.

[7:36] Yeah. Right.

[7:37] But let me know.

[7:39] But just to enter that, I just thought of, you know,

[7:43] we can have robots in different streets because there is a lot of car

[7:47] drinking and stuff. Right.

[7:49] So some of that is what I was talking about.

[7:54] They have robotics that actually go along the sidewalk and detect

[7:58] where there's a uplift or curb

[8:02] issues.

[8:03] You know, Ada compliant even.

[8:06] Yeah.

[8:07] So basically can do an inspection for you.

[8:10] Okay.

[8:12] Without having a surveyor going there.

[8:15] But it has to be aggressive robot.

[8:17] They can't go near it so they can steal it.

[8:20] Okay. I think back to the topic.

[8:21] I can lead it, but can anybody else?

[8:28] Do we need three people?

[8:29] I think one one alternate and one idea.

[8:34] So two two

[8:36] subcommittee cannot be more than two people.

[8:38] Yeah. Oh, it has to be two people.

[8:41] Yeah. Yeah. Can have people.

[8:43] And then the alternate.

[8:44] I think that's what the subject is like.

[8:48] For example, maybe this year I'm not doing much is doing cyber cybersecurity.

[8:54] I'm just like that support.

[8:57] So in robotics I can lead.

[8:59] But somebody if somebody can support.

[9:03] All right.

[9:04] Okay. Is it okay?

[9:06] Yeah. Yeah.

[9:07] And since no one else stepped in so I just

[9:11] I can do it.

[9:14] I can be

[9:16] cyber third time.

[9:18] I thank you all. Once, please.

[9:21] No, I think maybe I'll do something next year.

[9:25] This year I think I got my. Yeah.

[9:29] That is completely.

[9:32] I'm not doing I mean meddling my doing.

[9:36] So did a good presentation.

[9:38] I've been guiding her a little bit.

[9:41] So she is using last year experience and.

[9:44] Yeah well two years experience.

[9:49] Last year it was very new.

[9:50] We also didn't know what to do. Right.

[9:53] So yeah,

[9:54] it's not more streamlined.

[9:57] We don't need to vote on that.

[9:58] That's just a decision they can make. Right.

[10:01] Or this we actually need two motions.

[10:03] We need a motion to define the scope.

[10:04] And then we need a motion for who we're going to add to the subcommittee.

[10:10] Before we do that can we go to public comment sharing.

[10:13] Yeah.

[10:14] Looks like we don't have we have no speakers.

[10:21] So we have to discuss the scope now.

[10:24] I mean,

[10:26] you need to write a statement, right?

[10:28] Intent. Okay.

[10:29] So that is of the subcommittee.

[10:32] Intent of the subcommittee is okay.

[10:36] We'll post the motion later on.

[10:37] Let's have a discussion.

[10:39] The first is look at the capabilities.

[10:44] What robotics companies are providing today for public sector.

[10:48] You know, second is look at the somebody talked about

[10:52] look at the neighborhood but don't limit Labor City.

[10:56] I'll also look at Chinese cities.

[10:58] Any advanced.

[11:01] Yeah I know that guy has launched some of them in some

[11:05] municipal corporation has some robotics there that has been that.

[11:09] Yeah. There has been big news on advanced.

[11:12] Yeah.

[11:12] So so we can look at like what city is doing okay.

[11:15] And then look at the city use cases like we are talking about RoboCop.

[11:20] You're talking about park and recreation.

[11:23] And then make a proposal. Mix all three.

[11:26] Basically what what technology can do.

[11:29] What other cities are doing and what our city needs.

[11:32] Yeah. What? Our city.

[11:34] I think that is very important to know what our city.

[11:42] First it should be investigation.

[11:44] Right.

[11:45] And I think the output should be a report

[11:49] where we are presenting what technologies are available

[11:53] for from robotics perspective for the city.

[11:57] And the second is if there is an existing implementations

[12:01] by other cities in robotics area.

[12:04] And so what do we propose

[12:08] to the city map to our city needs.

[12:12] So what is the we may not need.

[12:15] And also but budget is on the second city.

[12:18] Yes. So what what would we prioritize?

[12:21] Right.

[12:23] I think I think budget should not be part in the,

[12:26] you know, knowing is it something that's truly a work.

[12:30] You know it's moving technology.

[12:32] That's my first city.

[12:33] We can't purchase something that's going to be one costly and not proven right.

[12:40] Do we need to make sure it's going to be reliable?

[12:43] Right. Got it.

[12:44] That is the reason the first two is also very important

[12:46] whether properties companies are capable or not,

[12:48] and whether other cities are using it or not.

[12:51] And you should look at the results of what their success rate.

[12:55] But I would propose let's not bring the budget in this.

[12:59] No, no, this is a study.

[13:01] Budget comes in the second. Exactly.

[13:03] This is only the study.

[13:04] What are the possibilities? In agreement?

[13:06] Yeah. Okay.

[13:07] Yeah. Okay.

[13:09] So then I propose the scope.

[13:11] Scope is evaluate technology

[13:16] abilities, working with local police, manufacturing companies

[13:22] that evaluate

[13:23] technological capabilities

[13:26] of the robotics manufacturing companies.

[13:29] Okay.

[13:30] Other reports manufacturing companies, robots.

[13:33] What robots can do, can do to make it simple.

[13:36] Second is

[13:38] research on how cities around the world are using robots.

[13:45] Correct. Yeah.

[13:46] And third is a study what our city needs.

[13:51] Okay.

[13:52] So I have all of them together, all three of them together and pretend to

[13:57] make sense. Yep. Okay, perfect.

[13:59] So I propose this motion. We have a motion.

[14:02] Can I get a second? I can second.

[14:05] Okay, we'll take it to a roll call.

[14:07] Vote. Commissioner. Dante.

[14:10] Agree.

[14:11] Commissioner.

[14:13] Yes. Vice chair.

[14:14] Kumar. Agree. Chairman.

[14:18] The motion carries.

[14:19] With Commissioner Sharon absent.

[14:21] Oh, I'm so sorry.

[14:22] We need a motion to determine who's going to be in the

[14:27] city.

[14:28] That's the second one.

[14:29] Yeah.

[14:31] Okay.

[14:32] You want to go ahead?

[14:34] Yeah, I brought those

[14:37] second.

[14:38] I propose I do have to propose the members as well.

[14:43] Yeah. For the subcommittee? Yes.

[14:44] I propose I share command to leave the committee.

[14:50] Okay. Yes.

[14:52] Propose.

[14:57] Commissioner.

[14:57] Guard second.

[15:00] And Commissioner Ramesh thought it.

[15:04] Correct?

[15:04] Yes. Yes.

[15:11] Okay.

[15:12] We'll take.

[15:12] You shall roll. Call. Vote. Dante.

[15:16] Yes. Commissioner.

[15:19] Yes. Chair.

[15:20] Kumar. Yes.

[15:22] Yes. The motion carries.

[15:24] With Commissioner Sharon absent.

[15:26] Do we also have to put the purpose?

[15:29] We did the subcommittee member scope.

[15:32] We also have.

[15:33] Yes. We already did a motion on the scope for the community.

[15:37] But that's all.

[15:38] That's all we need. Okay. Purpose and particular.

[15:41] Yes. Yes.

[15:45] Can we move to another topic?

[15:49] Okay.

[16:13] Okay.

[16:14] Can we add like purpose is explore safe

[16:17] and ethical users or use of property?

[16:20] I think we need to modify that. Right.

[16:22] It's a safe and.

[16:30] I think we have here at all.

[16:33] Correct.

[16:34] We need to add self and explore use of robotics.

[16:37] Okay.

[16:45] Makes sense.

[16:48] Explore use of robotics.

[16:54] Okay.

[16:55] Chair.

[16:56] May we go to. Yes.

[16:59] We have no speakers here.

[17:04] So we modify the work to explore use of remote.

[17:08] Yeah.

[17:10] So take out the safe and ethical.

[17:11] Yeah, yeah.

[17:12] Okay.

[17:17] That's change.

[17:19] Yeah.

[17:20] Okay.

[17:23] Are we talking number two?

[17:25] We are talking about it.

[17:26] Are you talking about number three?

[17:28] One. One.

[17:31] Gender number.

[17:33] Going to discuss number three right now.

[17:34] Yeah.

[17:35] Agenda item number three.

[17:38] Three.

[17:39] You are already working.

[17:41] Talking about what kind of one? Yeah.

[17:45] Robotics.

[17:46] And I put on operations for maintenance, cleaning public works.

[17:51] You can add safety.

[17:53] Public safety.

[18:03] Can we do it?

[18:04] Public works in public

[18:06] safety. Safety.

[18:07] Where are we adding that?

[18:09] Oh, on the objective work.

[18:11] Item number one. Okay.

[18:13] On the objective.

[18:19] Did you get.

[18:23] Here?

[18:28] Do you mind repeating that

[18:31] on the word number one

[18:34] project objective.

[18:37] Yeah.

[18:38] Robotics and I could announce city operations, particularly in maintenance,

[18:42] building, public safety and public works.

[18:46] So currently, it already has public works and safety.

[18:50] You would like to add public safety net

[18:53] in the first sentence.

[19:06] And then did you get under for the project.

[19:10] They want to remove safe and ethical.

[19:13] It's just explore use of robotics.

[19:19] Because one can argue

[19:20] that all of it is because it's people can do that work.

[19:25] Sure.

[19:27] Right.

[19:29] People can argue it's replacing demand labor,

[19:33] but it is not unethical.

[19:36] We do a lot of things.

[19:38] Yeah. Let's just call it. Yeah.

[19:41] So eventually we are not going to do anything unethical.

[19:47] We are not going to do anything.

[19:50] Not anything.

[19:53] Okay. No. No.

[19:54] Serious. Yeah.

[19:55] Yeah. I'm saying we have nothing to do, so.

[19:58] Right.

[19:59] Don't do anything.

[20:06] MIT just said that all their undergraduate

[20:11] papers, tests and examinations can be done here.

[20:16] Or they allowed. No no no no.

[20:19] Everything can be done by here.

[20:22] I mean, the test AI can pass.

[20:25] Oh, yeah.

[20:27] Okay.

[20:28] So if they do an open exam with

[20:31] computer in New York, band

[20:35] there is called up to not to use AI.

[20:38] Yeah. Yes. Up to eight grade.

[20:44] Still not learn anything.

[20:45] So on the.

[20:47] Are we discussing about item number three at this point.

[20:50] Have we moved on to three or. No. No at one.

[20:54] Still at one.

[20:55] Let's close one and two.

[20:57] I think we can skip.

[20:59] Yeah. We have the presentation.

[21:00] We already have it.

[21:02] And we've already done some evaluation of three.

[21:05] Is there anything else we need to.

[21:07] Yeah I think we have some presentations.

[21:10] Right. Yep.

[21:11] And what was the final report on

[21:16] on what use cases will implement has us and what what is planned for the future.

[21:21] Is there anything that is that a report

[21:25] from us or from you guys?

[21:28] No. No, from the perspective

[21:32] that. Yeah.

[21:33] What came out of it, you were saying, right?

[21:35] Yeah.

[21:35] What is city was already implementing it, right?

[21:38] Yes. Yeah.

[21:40] Let's read some.

[21:40] If I was from Microsoft.

[21:42] So make a suggestion.

[21:44] I was thinking, like,

[21:45] if the team can present to us what we are doing and what we have done.

[21:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[21:51] And I know that I dropped the ball, but now my role has changed.

[21:57] And I'm also meeting AI so I can I can

[22:00] have a formal discussion.

[22:04] Well let's talk about it more.

[22:06] We're doing quite a bit now.

[22:08] We've rolled it out to the whole city.

[22:11] So we're definitely much more familiar

[22:15] than we were when we had that conversation.

[22:17] Yes, yes. Yeah.

[22:19] Microsoft. Right.

[22:20] You guys. Yeah.

[22:21] You guys are looking at.

[22:22] I saw that you guys are looking

[22:23] at the website and all that is very, very good.

[22:27] Yeah. Yeah.

[22:29] Yeah.

[22:30] Test that when you get a chance.

[22:32] Chance to look at it. Yeah.

[22:34] So is it okay if is it okay if you guys can present what is happening?

[22:38] What is.

[22:40] Yeah. Yeah. We can.

[22:42] And also what? The future.

[22:44] We can have a discussion.

[22:46] Yeah. Yeah.

[22:48] But I didn't hear that last part.

[22:52] I didn't hear the last part. No, he's

[22:55] his idea.

[22:57] So, for example, we already have a customer facing jackpot.

[23:00] We are not a consulting company. We are like.

[23:03] So we are not selling you anything? Yeah. Okay. So.

[23:05] But we have got very sophisticated chat bot customer is using.

[23:09] Our customer uses that, you know, it's a different purpose is different.

[23:13] Correct.

[23:14] Little bit is not popular but yes we.

[23:20] It is B2B enterprise customers.

[23:23] Customers. Find out about their products.

[23:26] Yeah. Okay.

[23:27] So should we select a date for that?

[23:34] Do you have a core?

[23:36] Yeah.

[23:37] So throat and

[23:40] like a sinus issue.

[23:44] All right.

[23:44] So we're September.

[23:45] The next meeting is November.

[23:47] Should we plan to do do we have.

[23:50] We don't have anything to go to

[23:52] for November except for a recap of the cybersecurity,

[23:55] because the cybersecurity is November next, regular meeting

[24:00] in November 4th.

[24:04] So that is fine.

[24:06] So I think the only thing we'll have is the recap

[24:09] of cybersecurity, because it'll be the next meeting afterwards.

[24:12] And then we could do the presentation. Yeah.

[24:16] And then update from the robotics subcommittee.

[24:19] Okay.

[24:20] Yeah.

[24:21] Okay.

[24:24] Some things for the next meeting.

[24:25] I'm sorry.

[24:26] Three things. Right? Yes.

[24:29] Okay.

[24:31] This one.

[24:34] Okay.

[24:35] So then we will close the number three after that.

[24:38] Right.

[24:38] Yeah.

[24:39] Yeah.

[24:55] Do you have the present? Yes.

[25:08] Do we have to pass any motion on the work items?

[25:12] No. No.

[25:13] Okay.

[25:16] Looks.

[25:19] For cybersecurity.

[25:23] So this year's event

[25:27] is on October 1st, 6 to 8 p.m.

[25:31] is brought that time in your calendars.

[25:34] And expect all the commissioners from commissioners to attend this year.

[25:40] Because last year, we had only three people.

[25:43] Right.

[25:47] No, you were not.

[25:48] I don't think I was.

[25:51] He came secretly and

[25:54] even not in the front seat.

[25:56] We had a reserve sitting for you.

[25:57] Oh, I think I have a second.

[26:01] I can.

[26:04] So please.

[26:06] Next year.

[26:09] So the event will be inaugurated by Mayor Moore.

[26:14] And this is considered again a special meeting.

[26:18] Right.

[26:19] So Vice Chair Kumar will kick off the meeting.

[26:24] We'll start the meeting and.

[26:30] Yeah.

[26:30] And then I'm the moderator for the

[26:35] for the event.

[26:37] And then we have

[26:40] Terry Merlin, everyone helping us out and all the all the city staff.

[26:46] Right.

[26:47] They're all helping us out with the event.

[26:52] Next slide.

[26:53] Please

[26:55] stop me if you have any questions.

[26:57] Okay.

[26:58] So we have

[27:00] five panelists this year.

[27:03] This is one of the panelists Don Hester.

[27:05] He is in Department of Homeland Security.

[27:08] He could not attend last year because of furlough.

[27:12] He's agreed to attend online.

[27:16] He's agreed to participate.

[27:17] No, he'll be in person here.

[27:21] One of the requirement is for the panelists to be in person.

[27:24] We don't have any online panelists.

[27:26] Okay.

[27:28] And then the next panelist is

[27:33] Ramesh Gupta.

[27:34] He was there and he was one of the bandits last year.

[27:37] We are bringing him back.

[27:39] He is the CEO of a company called AI,

[27:43] and he has 30 plus experience in cybersecurity

[27:47] in different products.

[27:51] Next slide.

[27:55] One. He is head of cybersecurity engineering at visa.

[27:59] He was there.

[28:00] He was one of the panelists last year.

[28:03] He yeah, that's my neighbor actually.

[28:06] He was next door to you know.

[28:11] And yeah, he's very experienced in the sector.

[28:15] Sector

[28:18] next.

[28:21] Doctor

[28:22] is a CTO of IoT security at Palo Alto Networks.

[28:26] She I believe she was one of the panelists and last but the first before

[28:32] and she's agreed to participate.

[28:36] This is a panelist this year as well. So.

[28:42] Next.

[28:45] We have

[28:48] Sandeep Patel.

[28:48] He is responsible for high tech prosecutions in the Santa Clara County.

[28:55] Okay.

[28:55] And I'm sure he's going to bring us a lot

[28:58] of information and knowledge on high tech crimes,

[29:03] real cases, real cases, real life cases which are applicable

[29:07] to a lot of the lot of the audience should be able to put the learn from that.

[29:12] This is for corporate crimes, right? No.

[29:16] That's correct.

[29:16] All cyber crimes. And.

[29:20] So on.

[29:21] The the whole purpose of this event is to address

[29:25] cyber crimes against the president for a normal person.

[29:30] So he will bring the he will bring from the prosecutor perspective.

[29:35] Yeah. Some of the real examples. Yeah. Yeah.

[29:39] So these are the five panelists.

[29:42] Awesome balance. Yes. Yeah.

[29:44] This is pretty good panel. Yeah.

[29:46] That was very helpful in getting the

[29:50] district attorney.

[29:51] She contacted the district attorney's office as well as May.

[29:55] May she brought in as well.

[29:59] So don.

[30:00] Don, sir, I think that's Tommy.

[30:03] Yeah. Tommy's connection.

[30:07] Is there. Yeah.

[30:08] Because a lot of people on the semiconductor side

[30:13] like replacing them every six months.

[30:19] Next.

[30:20] Because a lot of people love their jobs from here

[30:23] in companies, big, big positions have joined.

[30:26] Now they're all doctors.

[30:30] So this we are going into the meeting event schedule itself.

[30:34] So I'll introduce the panelists and I'll be marketing the event.

[30:38] So the sort of talking

[30:41] to the panelists and asking them the questions, we have set of questions

[30:46] right now.

[30:48] Right now everything is skewed towards AI.

[30:51] All the questions.

[30:51] And we have close to 17 questions.

[30:54] I mean we are the priority is 12 last year.

[30:57] Those are still very relevant.

[30:59] But there have been new attacks using AI

[31:04] and a lot of attacks have been enhanced by AI.

[31:07] So we wanted to cover that.

[31:09] Yeah, maybe find a mix

[31:13] because we

[31:13] want to include some new questions also.

[31:16] First of all.

[31:19] So the plan is

[31:20] we are having a meeting with anyway before we next week,

[31:25] we plan to have a meeting with the panelists and finalize

[31:29] the questions, get their input, and also finalize who will be responding

[31:34] to which question, which panelists will be involved with which questions.

[31:38] That way, we can have a orderly meeting and we can move quickly

[31:42] and streamline way.

[31:44] And then.

[31:47] The meeting scheduled itself, we have

[31:50] 610 will be starting.

[31:54] And. Will be introducing calling the meeting to order,

[32:02] introducing their more and more will be inaugurated in the event.

[32:07] And so Gibson.

[32:10] Yeah. Will come to that.

[32:11] Yeah. It's covered here.

[32:13] Okay.

[32:14] Will be introducing the panelists and then we'll have a panel discussion

[32:18] for one hour. And then next slide.

[32:24] We have

[32:24] some Kumar is one of the team commissioners.

[32:28] She'll be doing a quiz.

[32:31] Audience Chris, we have already developed the quiz.

[32:35] It's a prince of five questions.

[32:38] You make sure people are listening.

[32:40] Yeah, yeah, she's been involved.

[32:44] And right now we have the questions.

[32:47] We have an online SaaS software called binti.

[32:51] These questions

[32:51] will be uploaded into Mindy that Samantha is volunteered to do that.

[32:56] But we need to remind her.

[33:03] Three of us should meet.

[33:04] Three of us should meet one week before.

[33:07] Yeah, yeah. It's already.

[33:08] She had a call with Samantha, Merlin and I.

[33:12] Okay, good.

[33:12] And Sumitra is already agreed to do that.

[33:14] Good.

[33:15] And basically, we'll have a QR code for these questions.

[33:21] Audience can just point to the QR code gets to the questions and they can answer.

[33:26] And we can publish the right results on the screen.

[33:30] Okay. That's the intent of this.

[33:34] After the after the quiz, five questions

[33:37] we want to get done in ten minutes or less for the answer the questions.

[33:42] Audience answers the question on the

[33:45] right on their cell phone.

[33:47] On this cell phone.

[33:48] Okay.

[33:48] And we want to see what they've learned from the event.

[33:51] And it would be live like 510 is moving moving

[33:55] consistently some.

[33:59] That is a lot. No,

[34:03] there is no right or wrong answer. Correct.

[34:05] It's like opinion, but there is a item, right?

[34:09] Oh, it should be.

[34:10] Which should be okay. Okay.

[34:13] And the question I mean it can

[34:16] I don't know for these events

[34:20] or I don't know.

[34:21] Oh for, for actually getting the right answer

[34:24] because half of the people might get our dancer.

[34:26] We cannot give a watch to all.

[34:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[34:30] See if we have some giveaways.

[34:35] Let me ask, on what basis do you give the award?

[34:38] Right.

[34:38] For the fastest person who's answering the question, or can we track that?

[34:42] I don't know if that's possible. That doesn't. Yeah.

[34:44] Because these apps, you see. Right.

[34:46] You have them open it up in an app

[34:48] and then and then answer and then it shows up on the screen

[34:52] how many people are answering right or wrong.

[34:53] And then you just say, oh, this was the wrong.

[34:55] So whoever gets it, whoever

[34:58] gets the most questions right gets a word. Then

[35:03] I think we're not going to know, how do you you're not going to know.

[35:06] It's not going to say.

[35:07] It's going to be let's say it's going to be anonymous.

[35:10] It'll it'll just not us.

[35:12] So yeah, we don't need to do an award if you want to give a part.

[35:16] What we can do is just a proposal.

[35:19] What we can do is because audience will ask questions to the panelist,

[35:22] and panelist will decide one award for the best question.

[35:29] You know what?

[35:29] The only one of

[35:31] which award and panelist

[35:34] you as the side correct the reverse.

[35:38] So we are already having award for our panelists.

[35:41] So we had one more gift, one more that's.

[35:45] And which panelist gets.

[35:47] No no no.

[35:48] All of them together. We decide if.

[35:53] It's okay if are coming in.

[35:57] How would you decide? 20 or 25.

[35:59] And we don't even know the names of the people.

[36:01] Yeah. So it would be. Okay. Leave it.

[36:04] Yeah, yeah.

[36:04] As complicated.

[36:06] Still complicated.

[36:08] There's not enough time in this format.

[36:10] Select somebody else.

[36:12] It's a good idea. Yeah, yeah. It's to.

[36:15] Oh, one thing we could have done

[36:19] potentially is have a raffle at the end.

[36:23] Because if you mention the raffle in the flier,

[36:26] you might have more people showing.

[36:31] In my in my all hands.

[36:33] My team. All hands I do that. Best question.

[36:36] No, no. Not raffle.

[36:37] Best question about

[36:40] how many questions do you like?

[36:42] There is 15 minutes.

[36:43] Just like all hands is 45 minutes.

[36:45] 30 minutes. I speak and 15 minutes is open.

[36:49] And the best question?

[36:50] About $100.

[36:54] That's something

[36:55] we can think about in the next year's event.

[36:58] Is having raffle raffle at the end of the year.

[37:03] Wait till the end to get to the raffle drawing you put

[37:07] you put your name and put it in.

[37:11] Can you do that? It's not late.

[37:14] Okay, now we can do it up

[37:16] so that more.

[37:17] Yeah.

[37:19] If the participation is happening because of winning, the

[37:23] something is wrong.

[37:27] Then learning about cyber security.

[37:29] That's right. Last year there was something.

[37:31] Yeah. Yeah.

[37:32] It's very scary to even click on the link.

[37:35] If you put raffle you won't have a space.

[37:38] But we have to get the word out there. Yeah.

[37:41] So that's a good point.

[37:43] So we planted in the event at 8:00.

[37:47] And basically we ended like any other meeting.

[37:51] Right.

[37:53] But I will end the panel.

[37:57] I don't think it will have an that much of an impact in city.

[38:01] Like we would like more to present

[38:06] tokens of appreciation to the panelists and the moderator, I guess.

[38:12] And Vice Chair Kumar will thank the members

[38:17] and end the meeting.

[38:22] And we'll end the broadcast at that time.

[38:25] But we'll be having a lot of people hanging around.

[38:31] At the end asking questions

[38:32] like last time, so

[38:35] many of the panelists stayed back and answered questions after that answer.

[38:40] So next slide please.

[38:44] And unless there's any questions.

[38:46] No this is good.

[38:46] Okay.

[38:49] Subcommittee next items basically

[38:53] social media campaign.

[38:55] We have different WhatsApp groups.

[38:57] We have the fly finalized by the way.

[38:59] We have the final flier

[39:02] here.

[39:03] This is the final flier.

[39:04] And on this flier there is a event, right?

[39:08] Registration. People can go watch again.

[39:12] They should register so that we have a good idea.

[39:15] And how many people are coming.

[39:16] Right. Last year

[39:18] they had to go to the city website and it was a little bit complicated.

[39:21] This makes it a lot easier.

[39:22] Yeah.

[39:25] And then

[39:26] so the social media campaign that also entails the city's social media.

[39:30] Yes. And our promotion.

[39:32] But you also will do your own social media.

[39:35] Social media doesn't mean posted it to a lot of different WhatsApp groups and all.

[39:41] So yeah, as well as LinkedIn on the city, LinkedIn.

[39:45] We should post this. Yes.

[39:48] That's our group.

[39:50] Okay. Yep.

[39:51] And then oh, as I mentioned

[39:55] we have the review of questions with snaps.

[39:58] And Merlin is going to order coffee from the Coffee Society. And

[40:03] like she did last time, she will pick up some histories

[40:06] and cookies and stuff like that.

[40:10] We are push fliers

[40:14] at the Quinlan Sports Center.

[40:16] I mentioned library last time, and I ran into a problem at the library

[40:20] because when I said

[40:21] put the flier up there, one thing is it's too crowded in that bulletin board.

[40:26] Another one is you have to sort of get it approved by the two weeks before.

[40:32] And there is a general section they put that, but that general section,

[40:35] nobody looks at it. Yeah.

[40:37] They pull it out actually they remove it every year.

[40:41] They go and clean it up.

[40:42] Where do they remove it from the bulletin board

[40:46] library.

[40:48] There.

[40:48] There are I think there are processes.

[40:51] They've read 48 hours. They remove it.

[40:54] Anybody can put anything.

[40:55] But every 48 hours or so they allow 48 hours.

[40:58] Yeah, but but you have to know that is the open.

[41:01] What he's talking about is approved. Approved.

[41:03] And then then you leave it there.

[41:06] Oh there is the one who put in area.

[41:07] Open area can put anything. Yes. But

[41:11] yeah we'll we are looking to get it approved.

[41:14] And also we are creating big a, a frames

[41:18] that we can set it up this clip, load this up and set it up.

[41:22] Okay.

[41:23] And we are going to have two of them.

[41:27] Merlin is working on it.

[41:29] And one of them.

[41:31] So the Coffee society

[41:33] shop next to library is going to provide us with the coffee.

[41:37] So we can set it up there.

[41:39] It's right next to the library.

[41:41] So they're not out there.

[41:43] So it's in their best interest.

[41:46] Right. Exactly.

[41:48] So that's that's the plan on

[41:52] for the committee subcommittee.

[41:54] And just like last time, I'm hoping

[41:58] Vice Chair Kumar can help us

[42:01] publicize the event.

[42:02] And also

[42:05] going to the next slide. So

[42:10] yeah, for different Cupertino businesses, we need help

[42:13] so that we can distribute it to different businesses like eateries

[42:18] and poverty's so that they can set it up in their bulletin boards.

[42:23] They can set up the fliers.

[42:27] Yeah, we'll have soft copies.

[42:29] Madeline will send out the soft copies, and we need to

[42:34] sort of publicize it in the different social channels.

[42:38] This is not limited to

[42:40] residents, only right

[42:42] from the surrounding cities anyone wants to buy.

[42:46] Some people came from Saratoga and.

[42:49] Right.

[42:51] And then.

[42:55] Cupertino Unified School District, as well as Fremont

[42:58] Union High School District last year to take care of it.

[43:02] You'll take care of it this year.

[43:04] Okay, good.

[43:06] And then we need to set

[43:07] a formal invitation to Cupertino City Council.

[43:11] I can do it. Or if anyone wants to do it

[43:15] right.

[43:16] Okay.

[43:18] You can probably to send it to the city council.

[43:23] And do you have a city meeting

[43:26] with the mayor where you have different commissioners?

[43:30] Commissioners meeting the there?

[43:32] No, we didn't have the last minute.

[43:34] When is the next one?

[43:35] They were on vacation or something.

[43:38] Is it before October 1st?

[43:40] When is the one this month? Right.

[43:43] Is it monthly?

[43:45] Last month it was not there

[43:48] every other year.

[43:50] But they skipped it last month.

[43:52] Yeah. Okay. September 16th. Yeah. Okay.

[43:55] If you can take a bunch of fliers

[43:58] next Monday.

[43:59] Now, you can take all this, you know, now if they can give it out as well.

[44:04] Yeah.

[44:04] So that means more than there are 4 or 5 here.

[44:08] Yeah. Will not waste paper.

[44:10] We have got five. Okay.

[44:13] And we can we can get to give you more.

[44:17] So that if you can distribute it to the other commissioners.

[44:22] Yeah.

[44:25] Oh, you don't

[44:27] know.

[44:29] Yeah.

[44:30] And other commissioners did some to see.

[44:40] Or see that meeting like she attends.

[44:44] Yeah.

[44:45] Okay.

[44:48] Okay.

[44:49] And if you can promote this meeting at other commission meetings,

[44:53] that would be nice. If we can.

[44:56] All that would be there that that meeting.

[44:59] But we can can.

[45:01] When you are sending email to the city council, can you send an email

[45:04] to all the commissioners?

[45:05] Also at least chair of the commission?

[45:08] Yeah. Okay.

[45:10] That last I think last time, last time the meeting of the.

[45:16] Yeah.

[45:16] But so

[45:19] that is this September.

[45:21] Oh, I can send us an email.

[45:23] Yeah, yeah.

[45:23] I was saying, like you send two email one to all the all the chair of all this,

[45:28] all the commission. One is to city council. Yeah.

[45:33] And ask chair of the commission

[45:35] to to discuss it to all the commission members.

[45:39] Okay.

[45:41] I think is common to all of them.

[45:43] So so

[45:46] no no, no. Chairs cannot.

[45:48] Yeah. Charles cannot do that.

[45:50] So one, it has to be one of the city employees who has to do it right.

[45:54] But she cannot do that.

[45:56] No because. No but but brown.

[45:59] But what.

[46:00] No. Chairs cannot do that.

[46:01] I understand, but we can send it to all the chairs.

[46:05] I think we did it last, but we cannot send it to all the commission.

[46:10] We can send.

[46:11] All right. Yeah.

[46:12] See? Only to the chair.

[46:15] So I can put your name.

[46:17] Because that's not breaking any problems here.

[46:20] Yeah.

[46:21] He can send it to all the commissioners so he can send it to all the commissioners.

[46:25] Last year we did.

[46:27] I'm not

[46:28] saying you have to double check with the city clerk.

[46:30] Okay, so last year I did that.

[46:32] I didn't get all the commissioner.

[46:35] I sent it to only the chair of the commission.

[46:37] Every chair of the commission, one member per commission,

[46:41] and ask them to distribute,

[46:44] doc, promote into their own commission.

[46:49] Yeah. I'm just not sure.

[46:51] Yeah, they can distribute the follow up.

[46:53] We could follow up with you on that.

[46:54] They can write that WCC.

[46:58] You're fine.

[46:59] I mean that's what we do for council and.

[47:01] Yeah.

[47:01] And commissioners.

[47:03] Yeah.

[47:06] Lindsay just send it back and we're safe.

[47:09] Yeah.

[47:11] Everybody.

[47:18] That's the commission tasks

[47:21] for everyone is response in the commission.

[47:27] Next.

[47:32] So this is the presentation that will be giving

[47:36] presentation self is very minimal right.

[47:39] Okay. Because you're not.

[47:41] This is more panel discussion.

[47:43] Yeah yeah. So that's the first slide.

[47:45] And then we have this slide that

[47:48] we'll be putting up in there.

[47:56] The next one.

[47:58] Next slide.

[48:01] Right now this is the event.

[48:04] And we have the questions in this presentation.

[48:07] But we don't have the presentation.

[48:11] With the questions we will have the meeting

[48:14] Menti

[48:15] will have the questions in Menti.

[48:17] And we'll do will present this slide I'll introduce

[48:20] Sumida and then we proceed to the quiz audience.

[48:25] Yeah. Yeah.

[48:26] Excellent.

[48:29] Thanks.

[48:29] Yeah these are the questions but basically very simple questions

[48:34] if you want to read through them.

[48:39] These are typical questions that we get every month in.

[48:41] And this will appear live on the screen.

[48:44] The first question will come and then you won't.

[48:46] And live.

[48:47] Yeah yeah that is good.

[48:49] Who is managing that city?

[48:52] This one.

[48:53] It's going into mental first.

[48:56] First then that will be displayed is the tool.

[48:59] Yeah, it's a SaaS application and people have to scan it.

[49:04] Yeah. So your presentation will happen.

[49:09] The presentation will have the keyword right.

[49:11] And the question they'll get, they'll have the

[49:15] all the questions in that and will answer.

[49:18] But we'll have the QR code on the screen.

[49:20] First you have the QR code on this and then show the questions one.

[49:25] It won't be one by one question that have all the questions and their answer.

[49:28] Okay, okay, well then I can do one by one.

[49:32] We didn't talk about one by one.

[49:35] Does it have to be hard to read

[49:38] if you put them all in the okay.

[49:42] Okay.

[49:42] Time the question and we see the poll, then the question.

[49:45] You see the poll the second time per question.

[49:49] Next question.

[49:50] Yeah okay.

[49:51] That's a good.

[49:51] Second one minute time out. Whatever.

[49:54] Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea.

[49:57] I'll discuss with Madeline, make sure we have it configured like that.

[50:02] Okay, but you need some help with that.

[50:06] And she's agreed to help.

[50:09] Okay.

[50:11] Yeah.

[50:12] So we have these 505.

[50:18] Next.

[50:21] And then this is the Q&A

[50:23] for the slide once more.

[50:39] This.

[50:53] Is that all that?

[50:59] I'll take this camera

[51:00] and demand your information.

[51:12] So then this is a final slide

[51:14] where the audience have a chance to ask the panelist questions.

[51:18] So we need help.

[51:20] Someone to carry the mic to the audience with the weights and volunteers.

[51:24] And an email to Nikita. Couple of volunteers.

[51:27] Yeah.

[51:28] Okay, I, I can also follow up with. Yeah.

[51:31] And by the way, she's also a team commissioner now.

[51:36] Nikita volunteered last time.

[51:38] Oh, nice.

[51:39] She's also a daughter.

[51:42] Yeah, daughter.

[51:43] There was one more girl. Yeah. Yeah.

[51:46] So that she's also joining team commission from this year.

[51:50] This is your daughter?

[51:54] Yeah.

[51:55] Yes. That's

[51:56] the audience engagement. Oh.

[51:59] So she has got three minutes.

[52:01] Five minutes?

[52:02] Yes. And?

[52:06] And we have the Q&A

[52:09] session for the audience for this,

[52:13] they can ask.

[52:15] Last time we had to cut it off.

[52:17] At some point when we run out of time.

[52:20] What will typically says.

[52:22] Please hold on to your questions after the session is over.

[52:25] The panelists will be here to answer your questions.

[52:31] Will you be saying that?

[52:33] So that's the end.

[52:35] And yeah, basically then I hand it over to the okay.

[52:42] This is good.

[52:43] Good.

[52:45] Plan is good. Yeah. Yes.

[52:47] So solid. Yeah.

[52:49] Very good update.

[52:52] Thank you.

[52:55] Public comment.

[52:56] Yeah.

[52:58] No. Speakers.

[52:59] Chair.

[53:07] So. September.

[53:17] So you'll promote the event that

[53:20] you will promote our event in that.

[53:22] Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[53:23] You will make sure that all that.

[53:27] Yeah.

[53:27] All the chairs taking that and and all their families.

[53:31] All the council members.

[53:32] Commissioner. Report.

[53:34] I'll be going through Commissioner report.

[53:37] Yeah.

[53:40] Yes. Actually, there are three people who come

[53:42] to the mayor's meeting with the commissioners.

[53:50] Tina, Kirsten, person.

[53:53] And then one more.

[53:56] Someone who's

[53:59] takes down all the. Lauren.

[54:01] The city clerk. Yeah. Okay.

[54:04] Well, we'll send it with either Kristen or Tina.

[54:07] Okay.

[54:08] Yeah.

[54:11] We had a couple of meetings

[54:15] for Economic Development Committee.

[54:18] Oh, I don't know.

[54:19] Are we going on to the.

[54:22] Yeah.

[54:22] Let's see which staff and commission reports.

[54:25] Yeah. Yeah.

[54:27] What is next?

[54:28] Yeah. Staff and commission reports.

[54:31] So I think we are in meeting.

[54:34] Right? Yeah. There was no meeting. Okay. There was no

[54:38] commissioner reports, basically.

[54:40] I attended the EDC

[54:43] committee meeting.

[54:47] They formed a lot of different subcommittees,

[54:50] and they're assigning it to people.

[54:53] But one of the issues.

[54:59] Yeah,

[55:01] I think the.

[55:04] The subcommittees

[55:06] need to be sort of enabled.

[55:10] Right.

[55:11] If someone needs to set a breakdown,

[55:12] things up, not happening in the subcommittees at this point,

[55:16] there are quite a few subcommittees, but they're not that one.

[55:21] Well, they just pick the subcommittee members last in the last year.

[55:26] So someone needs to enable that.

[55:28] So many subcommittees are there,

[55:31] five or 6 or 7?

[55:35] Six subcommittees

[55:36] and not enough people to be in all this option.

[55:40] So. Oh don't have you not don't have.

[55:42] I mean the committee is fixed size

[55:45] is the committee say.

[55:51] 7 to 8 people.

[55:53] It's not totally in the EDC.

[55:58] Like six, seven, seven.

[55:59] Yeah.

[56:01] So yeah.

[56:03] And then

[56:06] last week there was a Cupertino women luncheon.

[56:10] I think that that one of my objective was to promote the cybersecurity event.

[56:16] How was that?

[56:17] If there are a lot of presidents.

[56:19] Yeah. Yeah.

[56:19] There were there are quite a few.

[56:23] But not just I found that it's not just a business.

[56:26] Women, someone, some people from outside the city of Atlanta.

[56:30] Oh, oh.

[56:31] So the guys are also allowed to attend?

[56:34] No, no.

[56:36] The intent that participation is for the

[56:41] business with business women.

[56:43] And then Daniel sends out invitation to the EDC

[56:46] members EDC.

[56:49] I joined as a ADC member and whoever has got it.

[56:53] I think he invited some commissioners also.

[56:57] There were

[56:57] there was one more commissioner, and then we had the mayor and

[57:04] city clerk. And

[57:06] Tina, he knows

[57:10] city manager.

[57:13] Yeah.

[57:14] So that actually it was a pretty good presentation.

[57:19] For some women business owner perspective.

[57:22] Okay.

[57:23] That brought in a special speaker for this.

[57:27] And also the discussion.

[57:30] It wasn't a discussion.

[57:31] It was a presentation.

[57:32] On what on

[57:35] basically how to identify

[57:39] for people where their

[57:43] shortcomings are from

[57:45] a thinking perspective and how to work on those.

[57:48] Yeah.

[57:49] Yeah. Basically,

[57:52] I thought it was pretty good.

[57:54] The speaker was really good.

[57:57] Was it at Community Hall?

[57:59] Yeah. Do you go to that?

[58:02] No. You are not.

[58:04] Yeah.

[58:07] No. Yeah.

[58:08] I don't attend. I cannot.

[58:11] No, no.

[58:12] That business.

[58:13] Oh, I didn't know anything about it.

[58:17] So that's my commissioner support.

[58:22] So I can add I

[58:25] last two commissioners meeting.

[58:26] I talked about that.

[58:30] John Thomas,

[58:32] and then I sent an email to.

[58:38] Mayor Katie.

[58:39] And then I ran into her on City

[58:42] Hall, and I told her once more.

[58:45] She said, send it with CC to all the council members.

[58:49] I've done that.

[58:50] But we missed the sweet spot when John Turner

[58:54] was in the waiting to be seen right now.

[58:58] He'll be very busy.

[58:59] That time was the best time. Yeah.

[59:02] I became official CEO. Yes.

[59:04] Now you'll be over. Well.

[59:06] Yeah. So.

[59:07] But anyway.

[59:07] So male more and Tina.

[59:10] They were invited in Tim Cook's farewell.

[59:15] Oh. They attended. They did? Yeah.

[59:17] They attended.

[59:18] They went. Oh, they attended that.

[59:21] They are always invites for their people invited us

[59:25] and I think well more and Tina both were there.

[59:29] Both went there. No, this is not.

[59:31] There may be more people I know.

[59:32] When you said upon us.

[59:34] Who do you mean?

[59:35] Apple invited from the city of Portland City.

[59:40] So they.

[59:41] I know that Tina and Mayor Owen attended.

[59:45] Best attended that based on Apple invitation.

[59:49] Okay.

[59:51] Yeah, there might know more people.

[59:52] No no no no no.

[59:54] This because it's headquartered in

[59:57] any major event.

[59:59] Apple invited the mayor and city manager.

[1:00:02] This is not the first time when Apple Park was opened.

[1:00:05] They told that time I think it was

[1:00:09] Liang or Steven Scarf.

[1:00:11] They, the city manager went.

[1:00:13] Yeah.

[1:00:14] So because in the chance meeting there is mentioned.

[1:00:17] Right?

[1:00:17] So they always invite any major.

[1:00:21] Major.

[1:00:22] I think it's very good to see.

[1:00:25] I saw the photographs. It was very nice. It was very nice.

[1:00:28] I see.

[1:00:28] So do you go to the invite in one developer conference?

[1:00:34] No. That one.

[1:00:37] There is no connection, right?

[1:00:41] Apple developer conference.

[1:00:43] It's mostly technical.

[1:00:45] Yeah.

[1:00:46] No, I'm talking about Danny or somebody.

[1:00:48] Oh, yeah. Not.

[1:00:50] This is.

[1:00:50] Dave invited us for other purposes, but, yeah, we've been invited before.

[1:00:55] That's nice.

[1:00:56] We all with photographs, but with Tim Cook and.

[1:01:02] Yeah.

[1:01:03] Did you get that from LinkedIn?

[1:01:06] Thanks.

[1:01:08] It was very nice to see.

[1:01:10] Is it

[1:01:11] city of LinkedIn or which LinkedIn.

[1:01:15] Okay.

[1:01:15] Now now you're asking to. 18.

[1:01:22] Oh oh.

[1:01:24] You are okay.

[1:01:26] Yeah. Yes.

[1:01:28] No, this was not the fair.

[1:01:29] This was invited in the conference.

[1:01:34] This is.

[1:01:35] No, no.

[1:01:35] Well, also, the must be part of the invitation.

[1:01:37] They're doing right.

[1:01:39] Yeah. Which ones did you get? Invitation.

[1:01:41] We did a special one where they were.

[1:01:45] They had a

[1:01:47] local government initiative that they were pulling out.

[1:01:50] So they actually invited all of the regional

[1:01:54] CTOs and CIOs.

[1:01:56] Yeah.

[1:01:57] Yeah.

[1:01:58] No, I know every year Apple developer conference, they invite

[1:02:03] city of you know, they must have this is the developer conference.

[1:02:06] Yeah. Okay.

[1:02:07] They also get invitations to finger.

[1:02:11] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:02:12] Like see you in the next time.

[1:02:14] And all right. Apple is doing that. But

[1:02:17] they cannot invite everybody.

[1:02:19] No no but it's posted. Yeah. Right.

[1:02:21] So host city there. Yeah.

[1:02:23] It makes sense.

[1:02:24] They have been doing this for ever. Okay.

[1:02:28] What is that?

[1:02:29] Okay. We are done. Right. Done.

[1:02:31] Yeah.

[1:02:32] Actually, it took interest.

[1:02:35] Could have even talked to them.

[1:02:36] Yeah.

[1:02:39] Because what

[1:02:40] I know, based on the press coverage,

[1:02:43] I saw John Turner and Cook were very relaxed this time.

[1:02:47] They were going on and everybody.

[1:02:50] I know few people who had the discussions

[1:02:53] with them, and they had put pictures on LinkedIn.

[1:02:56] Wow. He spent five minutes with me.

[1:02:58] Somebody said, yeah. He looked at my demo.

[1:03:02] Somebody said, oh, they were asking me what I'm studying.

[1:03:05] And so this year, because of the transition, they were more relaxed at

[1:03:09] worldwide developers.

[1:03:15] Thank you.

[1:03:17] Oh, yeah.

[1:03:23] Okay.

[1:03:23] Thank you. Yeah. Thank.

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