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Can you hold that one up? Thank you.
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Good. Y'all good?
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Sorry.
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Good.
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Good evening, and welcome to the September 21st, 2026 Davidson County Board of
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Education Retreat. I will call this meeting to order.
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If we could please stand for the pledge of allegiance followed by a moment of
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silence.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty
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and justice for all.
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Amen. May be seated.
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Superintendent update, Dr. Slate.
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Just some key dates to remember, Mr. Chairman.
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Our next board meeting is October 5th here at David Townsend at 6:30 PM.
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Inside your board packet, of course, is the Board of Education meeting schedule.
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Please note that the retreat in February is also shifted to Davidson Townsend
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Elementary School as well.
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Thank you very much for that. Some operations, Mr. Johnson.
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Good
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afternoon,
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board. From operations this evening, I'd like to introduce Nicole Ray and her team
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from Performance Services to describe a method of construction called
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design build, and I would invite her to the podium at this time with her team.
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Thank
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you.
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Good evening, Dr. Slate, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.
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If it pleases the board, I wanted to present to you all tonight to expand on the
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facility needs survey material that was presented to you back in August.
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As Mr. Johnson had mentioned, my name is Nicole Ray.
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I'm a business development manager with Performance Services, and with me I have
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Dr. Rodney Shotwell, who I believe you all know, and also Bob Weede.
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So in August, our team had presented some high-level data and results of the
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five-year facility needs survey that's required by NC DPI.
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So for this slide, just a reminder that the average age of all Davidson County
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school buildings is approximately 55 years.
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And this is also a review slide that we had included in the August presentation,
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just highlighting the tremendous amount of need in Davidson County schools.
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Overall, the district has approximately $350 million in capital needs and deferred
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maintenance, which has increased approximately $250 million
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since 2020.
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While my company, Performance Services, presented the facility needs at our last
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meeting, we really didn't get a chance to get into who we are as an organization
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and why we provided this service to Davidson County schools at no cost.
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So Performance Services is a design build company.
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We have offices in Charlotte and Raleigh, as well as 19 other states.
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This slide is representative of a few of our North Carolina team members, but I
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want to highlight the fact that Dr. Shotwell, Lisa Jackson, and Dr.
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Beasley are all part of our team. You guys are familiar with Dr.
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Shotwell, but Lisa Jackson is a former superintendent of Pamlico County Schools,
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and Dr. Chad Beasley is the former superintendent of Allegheny County Schools.
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And I feel incredibly blessed to have such phenomenal North Carolina educators on
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our team.
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So our company is a little unique in that almost 90% of what we build across our 19
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states is K12. Our strategy and kind of our approach
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to our business is that we want to be our district partners' most trusted
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advisor. And the way that we support our school districts doesn't stop or start
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with just one project. So similar to how we've provided the facility needs survey
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for Davidson County Schools at no cost, we were able to help about a dozen North
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Carolina districts with their facility needs survey this year at no cost.
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We also have in-house grant writers and funding specialists who help our districts
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apply for grants like the Needs-Based Grant.
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We regularly offer no-cost roofing and envelope assessments.
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And then last but not least, we're proud supporters of several North Carolina
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education associations like the School Board Association with Ms.
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Ramona and Whitney and Leanne and that group.
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Also
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with North Carolina Public School Maintenance Association, so I'll be there at
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Atlantic Beach later this week supporting those guys with the operations team.
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And then also the Superintendents Association with Jack Hoke, and then last but
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certainly not least, NCAT with Brock Womble.
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So we feel really blessed to be able to come alongside our North Carolina education
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and partner in that way. So I'm going to turn it over to Bob Weede, who will tell
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you a little bit more about the Performance Services company profile and kind of
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how we got started.
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Thank you, Nicole. Again, my name's Bob Weede.
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I'm the director of design build for Performance Services.
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So I thought I'd spend a few minutes on who we are so you know who's talking with
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you. So
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we've been around for going on 28 years. I've been with us for 25.
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And we are a design builder, which means we have our own group, our own team of
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architects, engineers, project managers, control specialists, all one team, one
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point of contact. You don't get into a lot of the finger-pointing.
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We'll get into that in a minute. But we started out really focused on
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HVAC and controls. That was our bread and butter, and we've done thousands
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of HVAC, mechanical, electrical, plumbing projects to date, over 2,000 buildings.
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We currently monitor over 1,500 buildings through our performance assurance group.
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And so
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we benefit from an extensive knowledge of school buildings.
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The vast majority of our work, 87% of it, is in the K12 market.
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So we know schools, and there's very rarely a situation that comes up that we don't
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have experience on doing that. So we started out in that arena, and then really
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what ended up happening is our clients pulled us in to be more of a complete design
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builder. "We love what you're doing with our mechanical systems.
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Can you put this addition on? We love your process, your single point of contact."
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So that's how we grew into what we are, which is a full design build company.
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So we've mentioned design build. In construction, there's really three procurement
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methods. You have design build, which is one point of contact, single contract for
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both design and construction services. One person responsible for all that.
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Now, under the way we work it, we go out and competitively bid all the cost
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categories involved so that you're getting the benefits of the other two in terms
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of pricing, cost competitive bidding,
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but a single point of contact so there are no change orders with our projects, and
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we'll get into that in a minute. The other two methods around here are construction
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management at risk, and that's where you have a construction manager and an
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architect. The challenge is they both have their own individual contracts.
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Now they will partner together to some extent, but ultimately they are
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fiduciarily responsible to each company.
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And so you can get into this finger-pointing.
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"It's not my fault, it's their fault," and a lot of times the customer falls in the
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middle of that with either delays or change orders.
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The third method is design bid build, and I will tell you, I think
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Each of those have their strengths.
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If you're doing renovation work,
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if you're doing quick turn work, you want cost-effective solutions on something
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more than just a driveway or a parking lot or something, design-build really stands
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out well. If you have a great design and you're building a new
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school out in a field, and you work with a construction manager, that should go
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pretty well. If you're just doing a simple roof job or a parking lot, then
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design-bid-build might be your best solution.
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So each one has their best bet. Big thing about design-build, and I'll get into
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that, is single point of responsibility.
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So they've done numerous studies out there.
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Latest one was Department of Commerce and University of Colorado.
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They basically came back and said design-build's about 3% to 4% less, significantly
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less change orders. But the big thing, it's anywhere from 20% to 33% faster than
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the other methods. Now, I'm going to tell you, in these days, in these times, if
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we're shaving six months off a project, I'm going to save you money.
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And the reason is because we're all working together towards the same
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solution. And when we're going through, and let's say we're looking at your
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buildings like we did on your study, and we're going through that, I'm not just
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having my designer there. I'm having my project manager who's looking at it from a
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constructibility standpoint. So we're identifying those issues during design
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before they get out into the field, because that delays things and it costs you a
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lot more money. So we identify those, and then the other thing is, because we've
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done a couple thousand buildings, we do a postmortem on each one of those.
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What went right? What went wrong? What caught us? And they get identified.
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And so my engineer alone, just on HVAC, has an eight-page checklist that he
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goes through when we're going through a building on a design to make sure we aren't
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going to get caught on any of those.
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Because you put it in the drawings, that's a $20 issue.
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If I have to do a change order, that's a $200 or a $2,000 issue.
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So we address those, and it's one of the reasons we can do no change orders.
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So I mentioned that within design and construction management, you get caught in
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the middle a lot of times, because the designer's going to go, "That should've been
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on the construction guy." The guy's going to say, "That wasn't clear on your
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design." And the owner's left going, "I got to get this taken care of." And so it
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falls into your contingency or something along those lines.
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Did you have an interesting story on that one, Dr. Shotwell?
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I do.
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In one of my interim positions, I was able to put out for bid a new
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school project, and while we were working through it, one of the things, it was in
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Halifax County, I was in Weldon City.
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And what I noticed, that there were no true shelter in place that
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provided showers,
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food prep. They were using the community college, but the community college doesn't
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have a commercial kitchen. And so one of the things I asked them, because we had a
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small generator, I was like, "How much would a big generator cost?" Well, that was
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cost prohibitive. So the compromise was, we're going to put a switch on there,
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and then that way Emergency Management can have one of those tractor trailer
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generators come in for emergencies. And I said, "Great.
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Let's do it."
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The architect, the engineers,
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the construction manager, it took five weeks
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for me to get that answer, because they had to go from point to point to point to
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point. And the thing I have noticed working with this company, too, is that
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sometimes it just takes days, or maybe a week at most to get it changed, because
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they're all working towards the same thing.
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Because we were holding back money for change orders, and I know that's where,
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under traditional building, that's where they make their money, too.
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But for us, it was just ridiculous that I had to wait that long, because it ended
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up costing $332,000 to do that. But now Halifax County, if
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a big weather storm comes through, they can go there, and that place, Weldon High
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School, can be used completely without any power coming from the grid
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or anybody like that. And to me, I just think that's a big thing.
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Because the other thing that made me upset about that project was the bids came in
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first, $4.5 million over budget.
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That delayed them getting into school.
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Matter of fact, they just opened the school this past week.
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The kids had to stay out of school for a week so that the teachers could move in.
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Wow.
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It was supposed to have been ready during the summer.
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Here's the thing that they did. That was in June.
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September, all of a sudden, we come in under budget $138,000.
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But what they did is they went out and they actively recruited people to come in
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and do that second bid, and they did some value engineering, which I didn't like,
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but it didn't affect the overall aesthetics.
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My point is, that's what we do
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on the front end so that you don't get that delay.
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Because I kept trying to explain to my board,
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once we get the thing open, things will start rocking and rolling.
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But that delay cost them being able to move in in July as opposed to September.
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Thank you, Dr. Shotwell. And just to kind of add on to Dr.
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Shotwell's story, his process that took him five weeks in Weldon City, using
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design-build, would've been resolved in eight hours.
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It would've been resolved in a day.
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So I think we've kind of
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hammered home the fact that design-build is one team with sole accountability, but
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just to provide another visual aid, our architect, our engineer, our account
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manager, our construction, they're all Performance Services employees.
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We all wear the same shirt, have the same email extension.
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We are all one company, which does make the communication a lot better.
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Zero finger-pointing.
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Dr. Shotwell and Bob also both mentioned our no change order guarantee.
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So if there's a problem, we pay for it if it's a design error, but
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it's sole accountability, taking the risk off the district and off the board.
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Your neighbor over here in Yadkin County Schools just recently tried out
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design-build. So you all, I'm sure, have contacts over there, so feel free to reach
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out to the folks you know over there.
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But they have just been incredibly pleased with the design-build delivery method.
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They had a million dollars to spend. They wanted two roofs.
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We ended up delivering four roofs instead of two.
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We built credibility with them and also with their county commissioners by coming
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in under budget, so the superintendent was able to take his plan to the county
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commissioner and show that he was getting double, basically, the scope, and we
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still delivered $40,000 under budget.
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And they were very complimentary of our process and the speed, as Bob had
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mentioned, that we avoided delays that they had traditionally seen in previous
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projects with different procurement methods.
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So next steps, obviously, we did the five-year facility needs study for you all
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already. It was a very high level with Mr. Johnson.
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We would like the opportunity to maybe do something a little bit deeper or more
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concentrated or concerted. Again, we regularly provide facility studies at no
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cost, but I think we are all in agreement in this room that there is a tremendous
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amount of need here. And we would be more than happy to kind of help you all tackle
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some of those more pressing
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projects. And maybe just kind of start the relationship slow so that everyone can
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kind of get to know Performance Services, get to know our team, and at the end,
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what we hope for is a very successful partnership.
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So that's all we've prepared for today. I know we're just a little bit over time.
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My apologies for that. But any questions from the board? Dr.
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Slater,
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Davidson County.
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What ratio have you guys seen as far as success with the needs-based grant with the
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state, applying for that and having success there?
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Yeah, so we just started applying for needs-based grant last year with
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districts. And so, as you're aware, there's a little bit of a science to that,
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right?
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Very much so.
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And so, I'm trying to choose my words carefully here.
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I feel like
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Dr. Slate has mentioned in the past that Davidson County may not be as competitive
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as maybe some other, more rural districts.
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That's not to say, let me switch and put my DPI hat on.
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That's not to say that you shouldn't apply or that you can't apply, but there is a
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rubric, a scoring rubric, and if you all are interested in entertaining what the
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math on that looks like, we'd be happy to provide that in a subsequent bulletin.
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Any other questions?
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That's what I was going to ask.
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And you said you guys have grant writers on staff?
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Yes, sir. So
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our grant writer
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hails from a previous life. She had an 83% success rate, so she was able to help
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Rockingham County Schools apply for the Renew America School grant.
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So she successfully helped them apply for that.
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I believe she also helped them apply for the COPS grant and was awarded.
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So for me personally, I've worked with her also in a previous life, and she and I
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applied for the COPS grant, the School Violence Prevention Program grant, I'm
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assuming you all are familiar with that,
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for a district in South Carolina, and we were successfully awarded as well.
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So she's learning North Carolina, and learning DPI, but we will be applying
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for a few more this year.
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The grant successes are relatively moderate.
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Oh, I'm outside of my swim lane on that question.
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She has an Excel list that she keeps running that I would be happy to share with
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the success ratio and her total award. It's in the multi millions.
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Because she's a national resource for us, so she
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doesn't just support us here in North Carolina, she supports all of our states.
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So in Colorado, they have a BESS grant, and she has helped that team.
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In Arkansas, they have a different kind of community grant.
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She's helped that team as well. So we're-
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She's national.
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Correct. Yes, sir.
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Any other questions?
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I don't think so this time. Thank you so much for y'all-
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Yeah
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... coming and sharing with us tonight.
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No, thank you.
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The School Boards Association.
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Yeah, Ms. Ramona.
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Yeah. Ms. Ramona, the North Carolina School Boards Association.
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Well, good afternoon. What an honor to be before you today.
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With me is Amber Horton, who's assistant director of
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board development.
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I had the pleasure of meeting Donna.
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Well, she first encountered me last year at a dinner where I was not trying to be
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funny, but I think I had a comedy show.
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And I promise we will be good today.
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But I wanted to say, one, congratulations on the awards that we were able
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to share with you guys. Appreciate all that you're doing for the
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children here, and I just want to
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acknowledge that what you do is you make a difference.
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Excellent, did I change that? I didn't?
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You did.
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I did? I wasn't touching it.
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And so here the comedy show continues.
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But I will say,
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we're not going to be long before you because we had a great session with you, year
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before. I believe it was last year.
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Last year.
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And so, we're going to continue with that conversation, but just a quick refresher.
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We know that excellence in the classroom begins with excellence in the boardroom.
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We say that over and over. What happens at the board table matters.
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And so what you bring, what you do, it has an effect on student achievement.
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Congratulations on the scores. They were great everywhere, and
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that's a testament to the work that boards are trying to do to make a difference in
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every child's life.
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I'm not going to show you a good show.
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That's about a town council that was behaving badly and didn't understand that
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whenever you're the best show in town, good things probably are not happening for
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your community. And that's what we want to avoid, and that's what Amber and I will
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focus on today. So, the elements of effective governance, and I
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apologize, the font changed, but don't worry, we can get through this.
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But elements of effective governance, there are three things I want to focus on
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before I turn things over to Amber. One is the individual.
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What you bring to the table matters.
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And this is kind of small to see, but hopefully you can see it.
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Even with my no-line progressive glasses, that's really tiny.
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But I will say that the focus you have as an individual board member, the mindset
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that you bring, the mindfulness, the level of commitment,
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understanding your roles and responsibilities, and doing the things that you have
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to do to be a team member, all play an important role in
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being
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a happier board member.
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The second element is the board. What you guys do, and I will
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start with, in her book, "The Essential School Board Book" by Dr.
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Nancy Walser, she identifies the common practices for school districts
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with increasing student achievement.
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They goal set, they identify the most important things that need to get done in the
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district. They operate by protocols and norms, and we're going to talk a little bit
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more about that. They understand the critical role of the chair.
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That would be you, Nick. And then,
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they are involved in the community, and they evaluate themselves with some
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regularity. So what we are going to do is
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always look at the four critical building blocks of an effective school board.
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It's what we talk about in core training.
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It's how we kind of summarize that work of the board that Dr.
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Nancy Walser talked about. And the first one is unity of purpose.
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Nope. Okay, graphic on. But your unity of purpose,
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it's the vision you have for the district, and you have to own that vision.
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It's your vision, your mission, your goals, it supports the common
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ground in which your school district operates.
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And if I'm not mistaken, you guys are coming up on completing your strategic plan.
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So you're going to be reviewing all of this.
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And one of the things that we like to do, and I'm going to let Amber lead this, and
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so that you hear a different voice, because that would be exciting and thrilling as
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we talk governance.
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Hey, everybody. Good afternoon. Hopefully, everybody's well.
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Like Ramona said, I am Amber Horton, and I have the pleasure of working with Ramona
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in board development. So when we were with you last time, we talked about these
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four building blocks, but we really only got through the first two.
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So we want to kind of do a quick review, set you up for some of your strategic
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planning that you guys are going to get into, and we've got a little bit of work to
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do with that. And then we're mostly going to talk about norms and protocols and set
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some protocols up for you all. With your unity of purpose, though, it's your
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foundation, right? Ramona always says, and if you've come to core training, that
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it's an arranged marriage, right?
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That you five together are an arranged marriage, and you are put together under
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some unique circumstances, and you've got to work through that.
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But each five of you, all five of you, came to the table with an idea about how you
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wanted Davidson County Schools to look and what you want it to grow and how you
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wanted it to progress. So that's one of the things we want to just take a second on
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and to think about. What do you want to see happen, right?
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This is all going to start to get into some of your work as you start to do your
[26:57]
strategic plan. In your packets that I came and brought you, there's a folder here.
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One of the first worksheets that it has on there on the left-hand side is it says
[27:07]
Daily News. And what we want you to do, and this is just a great starting point for
[27:12]
you to kind of hear everything, but also for your staff in the rooms to also hear
[27:17]
this as well, but we want you to write a quick future headline.
[27:20]
So we want you to imagine that it is September 21st of 2036, okay?
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Ten years from now, there is a newspaper headline, and it comes out, and what would
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you like that to say? That's ultimately what we want you to do.
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So take a second right now, jot down on that piece of paper, in 10 years from now,
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what does that headline say? And this is something that we've done with several
[27:38]
boards across the state, and it's actually very interesting, and it's very
[27:40]
enlightening for your superintendent as well, and staff to kind of hear some of the
[27:44]
key words and buzzwords that you all as the board would like to see.
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So we'll give you just a second, a couple seconds. I apologize.
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We'll give you a couple seconds to write what would you like your headline to be
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I love that y'all are still writing. I just want to say that. That's awesome.
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Anyone feel like sharing what their headline would be? I will. Do it. Thank you.
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I'm not still writing. This isn't a paragraph. That's all right.
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It's a headline.
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It's a headline. In bold print at the top of the page. I like it.
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All, double underline, Davidson County Schools exceed growth and improvement and
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100% graduation rate. Exceed growth, 100% graduation rate, all. All, emphasized.
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You getting that, staff? All. All. Perfect. Awesome. We love that.
[28:29]
Thank you for sharing. Anyone else have something else they'd like to share what
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their headline would be?
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I'll stay on. Our schools are safer today than 10 years ago.
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Our kids are more successful
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today than 10
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years ago. Graduation rate is
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99%.
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Perfect. So we have safety in there, we have graduation rates, and I apologize, I
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missed that one in the middle.
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Successful.
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Successful. Awesome. Great. And from 10 years ago, you're really putting that
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growth in there. Anybody else have one they'd like to share?
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I'll go.
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Do it.
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Mine simply says, "The standard is the standard.
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Davidson County Schools continues to lead by example across the state."
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Ooh. That's good. Y'all getting that? Everybody-- That was good.
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Yes. That's my favorite so far.
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That's good. Standard is the standard. Yeah, I like that. Those are great.
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Are you leading Wake County?
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Huh?
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Are you leading Wake County? He's leading Davidson and that's great.
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Yes. There's no need for that.
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If we need to, we will.
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Standard is the standard. Standard is the standard. We love that.
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Anyone else want to share? You don't have to. Anyone else want to share?
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Sets the gold standard. 100% schools achieving growth.
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I didn't mention the graduation rate, but that's where my mind was going.
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And I also went to the expanding just classroom opportunities and being fully
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staffed,
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and being able to fill all of our positions and have the resources that we need.
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Yeah, growth.
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Setting the gold standard.
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Mm-hmm.
[30:48]
Nice.
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Set the gold standard.
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Why not? Bring it home. Bring it home.
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Okay.
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There's no medal on the inside, so there's no spot to be.
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Davidson County Schools continues to move ahead with community interaction and
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improvement.
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Ooh, I like the community. That's different.
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Yeah.
[31:06]
That's really good. Great.
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Either way, all of you have that vision of, yes, it's going to
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be Davidson County will be the place to be.
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Mm-hmm.
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And that with things are happening that are making me the envy of the rest,
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the central. Great. Okay.
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The PTECH.
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Huh?
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The PTECH first in the state.
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PTECH, there we go.
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Yes.
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Keep it PTECH. Yep.
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And the PEMA. No, let's just put every state.
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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Envy of the state. There's no reason why you can't shoot for that and cast that
[31:40]
vision out. And what's exciting is you get to hear from the communities and to do
[31:45]
these same kinds of exercises with them and to hear what is your vision, and
[31:51]
making sure that they have vision that's not focused on improvement and moving
[31:56]
forward, but it's focused on our kids have the best opportunity from a
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fully staffed gold standard-
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Mm-hmm
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... district, and we are making such gains that it will be the envy,
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the place to be. That's going to be so good.
[32:16]
So, one of the things we also want to, and we add in this last question, so thank
[32:19]
you all, one, for sharing and participating in that.
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It actually is really helpful to start to hear some of the buzzwords and some of
[32:24]
the things and directions and thought that you all as a board are thinking, as
[32:28]
you're working on your new strategic plan.
[32:30]
But we want you to think about this last question, too, is what does your board
[32:32]
need to consistently do to achieve your headline?
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And this isn't something that we're going to discuss right now, but we want you to
[32:37]
think about, right? You all just shared improvement, growth, being the standard,
[32:41]
being the best of the best. So what do you as a board need to do, and what does
[32:45]
that look like? Right? A little help with that, though.
[32:49]
We've got this visual for you. Just to kind of help see some of the alignment.
[32:53]
We've noticed that boards sometimes get a little confused sometimes as to where
[32:58]
everything sort of fits together. So we've got this for you here.
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You've got your superintendent goals, right? You have your board goals.
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What are things you as a board would like to achieve?
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You have your teachers who are working hard in their classroom.
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They're working on their PDPs. They are teaching, and they are setting their own
[33:12]
goals as well. All of that's going to funnel into your strategic plan.
[33:17]
And one of the things that we're going to encourage is that you continue that
[33:19]
alignment. So what your goals are, are going to match directly to that strategic
[33:23]
plan. Everything is going to funnel back to the strategic plan.
[33:26]
So if the strategic plan says that we are going to have a graduation increase,
[33:29]
everything that you do goes back to that point, and you can point to that.
[33:32]
This is also something that's really good.
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Has anyone ever been stopped at the grocery store or somewhere, and you've gotten
[33:37]
asked a question about why you're not doing something? Right?
[33:40]
So giving you something as this is a good-
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That happens?
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It's a good discussion, I know.
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Oh, man.
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It's a good discussion point for people, for you all to say, "Well, we actually
[33:52]
were working with the district in the northeast, and this really helped them." When
[33:55]
you get stopped and you're kind of like, "Wait, what?" It gave them some
[33:59]
communication points to be able to say that this is exactly the line that we're
[34:02]
giving, according to our strategic plan goal four, whatever it is.
[34:06]
It gives you just something to talk to and not kind of go, "What?" And then
[34:09]
everything goes back and has your student success at the top.
[34:12]
Now, that's what we're here for. We want our kids to do great things.
[34:17]
So the second of the four, and we like to think of our four elements of effective
[34:22]
governance as kind of like a table.
[34:24]
If you're missing one or you're weak in one, your whole table's going to fall.
[34:27]
So we did our unity of purpose. We understood what our visions, our thoughts,
[34:30]
ideas. And then we have your role of the board.
[34:32]
And this is something that I'm actually going to credit to Ramona.
[34:34]
She created this cogwheel graphic and kind of put this together in her head to give
[34:38]
a different representation, sort of the clock idea that we still normally do,
[34:42]
though. But to say that you as a board have your roles.
[34:46]
You have superintendent and staff have their roles, and you're working together in
[34:50]
cohesion to make sure that your district is moving forward.
[34:52]
In order to achieve your unity of purpose, this is going to be the most effective
[34:56]
way.
[34:58]
And we just think it's a good new graphic.
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Another visual representation, sometimes that's the best way as adults that you can
[35:06]
learn is through experience and through visual representation.
[35:08]
Just so you understand, you as a board are part of the ends, and your
[35:13]
superintendent is the means. You are going to give the directive to say, "We would
[35:17]
like to see graduation rate increase by X amount." And then you're going to give it
[35:22]
to your superintendent and your district staff to get there.
[35:24]
That's going to be that separation between your ends and your means.
[35:27]
You all are going to give the directive, and then you're going to let your
[35:30]
superintendent, who you have confidence in, and your district staff, you also have
[35:33]
confidence in, to take that to the next level.
[35:39]
All right, you ready for the good stuff?
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Yeah.
[35:43]
Okay. So the third and fourth of our elements of effective governance are norms and
[35:48]
protocols. And this is something that we've been talking a lot about.
[35:51]
A lot of our boards are wanting to do this work, but not quite sure where to go
[35:55]
with the work or how to get the work done.
[35:57]
So that's what we're going to spend the last part of our time with you all is
[36:00]
actually kind of getting into what does that look like and how can we do it as a
[36:03]
board, and hopefully leave you with some hardcore stuff.
[36:08]
Your norms are going to be your team culture. That's the behaviors of your board.
[36:13]
We know that you all are in a great place right now. We've heard great things.
[36:15]
We've heard that everything in Davidson is going very well. That's wonderful.
[36:18]
This is a great place for this work to happen because it doesn't make it as mucky
[36:22]
and as murky as it could be. It shows that your board culture, and you all have
[36:25]
worked really hard to sustain a positive board culture. So those are your norms.
[36:30]
Then your protocols, though, are going to be your processes.
[36:32]
Those are going to be what actions that you take when a certain event has triggered
[36:37]
something. When you get the complaint in the grocery store, when you get the
[36:41]
wanting something on the agenda, when you get anything of that specific event, how
[36:46]
do we do that? And how do we, as a board, want to agree that that's going to get
[36:49]
done? So you want to make sure that you've got positive behavior, and that behavior
[36:53]
is supported by certain specific actions.
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And sorry, you got it. No, this year you should.
[37:04]
We did. And so finally, the third element of effective governance is, what is the
[37:10]
board's job? And I love this graphic because it's similar to
[37:16]
a clock, but the board's activities are on the outside, and all of the activities
[37:21]
of your staff and superintendent are on the inside. The board sets direction.
[37:27]
That is yours. As you begin to work on your new strategic plan,
[37:33]
you're setting the vision. You're working with community to hear the mission and
[37:39]
establish that. You do those types of things, and we usually do that well.
[37:45]
You establish the structure, which is kind of similar to your policy role, because
[37:50]
you make the laws of the land, and you keep your board attorney close by.
[37:56]
I can't say that enough. Thank God he's here, so he can keep me in line.
[38:02]
But you establish the structure by which the district can operate and that your
[38:08]
staff can do everything they need to do.
[38:11]
Usually at the bottom, creating a supportive environment, that's where you ensure
[38:16]
that what you need to do, you're doing, with the proper culture and focusing on
[38:22]
those things that are not the day-to-day
[38:27]
staff items, which I know you don't do. Bless you.
[38:30]
But just creating that supportive environment, and ensuring accountability,
[38:37]
reviewing those scores and everything, that's so awesome, and then just keeping
[38:42]
everything in order, all while you're providing community leadership throughout.
[38:46]
So you're interacting with the community, and as Amber suggested, it's a good idea
[38:52]
to have that elevator speech of, "Our schools are doing this to meet these goals
[38:57]
that we have established." So you're having that conversation with them and it's
[39:02]
keeping that connection with your community.
[39:06]
And so if we begin with
[39:10]
what's happening at the board table and the culture here, continuing from the
[39:14]
conversation that we had last year, do you remember our norms activity
[39:20]
that we did last year?
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It's okay.
[39:24]
It's okay if not. That wasn't a test.
[39:27]
But as Amber said, your norms are talking about how you behave and treat each
[39:33]
other. And I know that there's respect here, which is wonderful.
[39:38]
If you don't have the norm-- You guys have election.
[39:42]
Yes, I know you're having elections,
[39:45]
Nick. So yeah. But if you don't already have your norms written down,
[39:52]
write them down and use them as part of orienting new people to
[39:58]
the board. You want to protect and to
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have available for anybody to see, "These are the habits.
[40:07]
These are the ways we operate and treat each other.
[40:11]
We treat each other with respect. We treat each other with
[40:15]
kindness. We listen."
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And I know you have your policy 2120. We walked through that last time.
[40:26]
The thing is, it's great to have
[40:30]
what we call a cooperation agreement that doesn't supersede.
[40:35]
Your policies are top, but your code of cooperation is an opportunity to plainly
[40:41]
state how you want to get things done.
[40:44]
This is sample norms from a North Carolina district where they took some
[40:50]
things. They were in conflict, actually, when they created these.
[40:55]
But look at just this list, and I know I shifted through a lot of different
[41:01]
slides quickly, but we want to work on protocols. But look at number one.
[41:07]
We treat board members, staff, and the public, mm, with
[41:13]
respect, modeling the behaviors we want for ourselves and others.
[41:19]
It's a very simplistic way of
[41:23]
pulling out a small piece from your ethics policy, but saying it so plainly that
[41:28]
this is how we behave all the time at the board table. This is who we are.
[41:33]
So, they even have a violation. People who violate, board members who
[41:40]
feel their colleagues have violated any portion of the agreement, commit themselves
[41:45]
to talking one-on-one with the member in question.
[41:48]
If they cannot reach consensus on resolving the matter, the issue is to be brought
[41:53]
to the entire board. And I think what's so important is
[42:00]
they understand and want to protect what they are doing, what they have.
[42:06]
And having that good culture, having that
[42:11]
understanding of how we behave and treat each other, it's worth protecting.
[42:16]
Because if you don't protect that in an arranged marriage, sorry you have to hear
[42:20]
this again, but in an arranged marriage, you can have these little cracks, these
[42:25]
tiny little things that can start to be irritating.
[42:29]
And then all of a sudden, you have a blowup that started from something that's so
[42:35]
tiny. And
[42:38]
I heard someone say we didn't all sit at the same dinner table and have the exact
[42:42]
same values. And so what could be offensive to me, let me tell you, in my house,
[42:47]
Mom didn't let one drop of alcohol in there.
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She's Pentecostal Holiness, so no. No alcohol in the house.
[42:55]
Daddy didn't bring it in the house.
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But maybe things were different in your house, that it's okay.
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I've never had a beer.
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My
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mother's 87. I will not defy her to this day.
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But
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the same things, the same standards that were expected at your dinner table is
[43:19]
going to be different from anybody else's.
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And so you want to have norms conversations to be able to not let any
[43:28]
little crack break you from reaching that 10-year goal and those headlines you all
[43:33]
set. Any questions on that? Because I'm going to turn it over to Amber.
[43:42]
Okay, so you ready for some stickers?
[43:45]
Yep.
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So in your packets, there was a collection of stickers.
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If you will please grab those for us. We're actually going to get into some work.
[43:55]
Our goal is to at least leave you all with one developed protocol, and hopefully
[43:59]
continue on your work from there. So let's get started, though, with what that one
[44:02]
protocol is going to be. Just a reminder, protocols, though, are going to be the
[44:07]
steps that you take when a certain event has been triggered. Right?
[44:10]
Again, you want something put on the agenda, you would like to have a response to
[44:15]
community complaint. Whatever the specific event may be, we want to make sure that
[44:19]
we have, as Davidson County School Board, a way to help and address that.
[44:24]
So here's our general process. So we're going to do that tonight.
[44:27]
It's a general process, though, for how to facilitate that discussion.
[44:30]
So first, right, we're going to decide what protocol is needed. Okay?
[44:35]
There's going to be a lot. We've got some examples for you, so we're going to try
[44:37]
to help decide what protocol we first want to do.
[44:41]
We want to make sure, though, that we understand the issue, that everyone has
[44:44]
access and the ability to share what they're thinking about the issue.
[44:48]
One of the things that we found, too, is that sometimes particular issues can just
[44:52]
be solved with going over your norms.
[44:53]
It could just be having a conversation of, "Hey, remember, let's refer back to norm
[44:59]
on our individual board member responsibility number 10," whatever it may be.
[45:03]
Just kind of helping to review some of that.
[45:05]
We want to make sure, though, again, everyone's got a voice.
[45:07]
Then we actually want to write the protocol.
[45:09]
And we're going to show you some examples that protocols can be done in different
[45:12]
ways. Okay? It doesn't have to be this massive step. It could be a sentence or two.
[45:16]
Whatever is the will of the board is going to work for you all.
[45:19]
We want to work on that culture as best as possible.
[45:21]
Then we want to also make sure that we are all clear.
[45:25]
We're glad that we have our attorney here tonight.
[45:26]
We want to make sure we are all clear in terms of any violations when we've written
[45:30]
that protocol. And then we want to make sure, too, that we set at the very last
[45:33]
step, that we set a when we're going to review.
[45:35]
Just like you review your policies within a year, or you set that schedule for when
[45:39]
you're going to review, you want to review your protocols as well. Right?
[45:42]
Is it going to be as needed? Is it going to be in a year? Is it two years?
[45:45]
Whatever it may be. Because, again, protocols are the will of the board and
[45:49]
whatever you want them to be.
[45:51]
So
[45:53]
here's some other examples for you, just to kind of get your head around them.
[45:55]
Visiting schools, communicating with board members, asking agenda questions.
[45:59]
Those are all, again, examples of protocols
[46:03]
I know this is a little hard to see. The two on the left are actually protocols
[46:06]
that were written from boards in Virginia.
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Surprisingly, this is work that North Carolina has done starts.
[46:13]
We've got several boards that started.
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We don't have many that actually complete it, and we hope that Davidson is going to
[46:18]
be one of those boards that completes it and is able to showcase this.
[46:22]
So this is in your packet, but on the left-hand side from Virginia, just want you
[46:26]
to be able to visually see their protocols are two sentences.
[46:29]
When it says how the board is going to set the agenda, it literally says the board
[46:34]
chair, superintendent, and board clerk decide the agenda. Boom, done. One sentence.
[46:39]
That was their entire protocol. However you want that to work for you is how it can
[46:42]
work for you. On the right-hand side is actually a sample of NCSBA's protocol that
[46:48]
we've done and a sample protocol on communicating with the media, and we've stepped
[46:51]
it out. All right? It has one through five. It really goes into detail.
[46:55]
We have some things for you to consider.
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We just want you to see and know that there is no one way to get this done.
[47:00]
It is whatever is going to work best for the board. Okay?
[47:06]
All right. So you got your stickers.
[47:09]
Ramona here is going to be our Vanna White for you all.
[47:12]
Aren't you so glad I brought her? Right.
[47:14]
She is going to-- And I wish we were winning money at the end of this.
[47:17]
What we've got, though, is that we have got six examples of protocols that are most
[47:22]
common for boards that they kind of want to work on, and we want to ultimately
[47:26]
decide right now with your board using stickers, to decide which ones are going to
[47:31]
be most priority. So on your sheet, green, you're going to use a green sticker if
[47:35]
you think that protocol for you as Davidson County Board is doing really well.
[47:39]
You're like, "We're great. We're awesome.
[47:40]
We don't need to talk about this." You're going to use the yellow if you're like,
[47:43]
"Eh, we should probably get there." Right?
[47:46]
Red is going to be, "Yeah, I think we need to work on that." And your blue is going
[47:50]
to be, "This is not a priority right now." Right?
[47:52]
So basically, green is going to be, we're good.
[47:54]
Yellow is going to put some caution in there, like maybe something we should talk
[47:57]
about, but not a priority. Red is going to be your priority, and blue is going to
[48:01]
be not anything we want to talk about right now. Okay?
[48:04]
So the six that we have for you, communicating with the superintendent, meeting
[48:08]
agenda, responding to complaints, visits to campuses, confidentiality, and
[48:14]
avoiding surprises. So what we'd like you to do is of those six in the boxes that
[48:19]
are on the chart paper here, take your color. All right? Take your sticker.
[48:23]
So let's just say it's a blue sticker for you for avoiding surprises.
[48:26]
That feels great to you. You're like, "It's not a priority right now." You're going
[48:29]
to put a blue in the avoiding surprises box. All right?
[48:32]
So this gives you all a chance to kind of visually see what protocols you'd like to
[48:36]
work on first. Questions for clarification?
[48:41]
Awesome. If you all will take your chance, take a little stretch break, come up to
[48:44]
the board here and place your stickers.
[48:45]
Again, green is going to be, you're crushing it. We feel good. Right?
[48:50]
Yellow is going to be something we should talk about.
[48:53]
Red is going to be something we should definitely talk about.
[48:55]
Yikes, we need to work on that. And blue is going to be, that's not a priority
[48:59]
right now. We don't need to talk about it. Right?
[49:04]
So of your six, again, communicating with the superintendent, meeting agenda,
[49:08]
responding to complaints, visits to campuses, confidentiality, and avoiding
[49:11]
surprises. Come on up. Come on down.
[49:14]
Say hi to somebody if you haven't said hi to them yet.
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You are in kindergarten. It's fine. We're learning.
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Who doesn't like stickers?
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Yeah.
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So don't use
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green, yellow, red, and blue. You can't use any other colors.
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We don't-
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Only your primary ones.
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Yeah, only primary.
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I don't know what you mean by avoiding surprises.
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Well, great question.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, that doesn't mean. Not at all. That's a great question.
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If you don't have to wonder what it means, that's a good thing.
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That means nobody's surprising you.
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See, that's good. That's great.
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That's okay.
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That's okay.
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Well, we talk about avoiding surprises sometimes in the arena of
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if you're out in the community, which all five of y'all are, and somebody comes up
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to you and asks you something that's going on in the school system and you don't
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know anything about it, that's a surprise you don't want.
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Or you can be like me and never go to school anymore.
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Correct.
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But then it's also-- I mean, Ramona, you can jump in here, too, if you think I'm
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wrong, but also that's a two-way street in
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if you have questions before board meetings-
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Mm-hmm
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... see if we can
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at least let them, let your staff know, Dr.
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Slate and his cabinet know, "I'm going to have some questions about this." Come
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with that information.
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So it's not like a you're getting caught with your pants down.
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It's not the other direction.
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You're-
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You don't want to have a got you moment-
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Correct. That's what they call it
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... for the staff, and you don't want to be the got you person.
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We got you.
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Well, we should have sticked to stickers.
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And if you don't-
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Well, that's okay.
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You have seven? That's okay. Don't worry. If it's green, which it is. That's okay.
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Substantial compliance.
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Substantial. And that's okay.
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I, um-
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It's like we agreed on one.
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The most red that I'm seeing is on responding to complaints.
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Four said that that is something that they would like to work on, and someone said
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that that is, the yellow for that, so they do have a process for that.
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So you have some there. And then we kind of flipped for avoiding surprises.
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So we got four that said yellow and one that said red. Okay.
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It looks like confidentiality, great. You're crushing it. Great job.
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That's great. Can I say thank you?
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Thank you, guys.
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Thank you.
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It's not always been that way, but I feel like this board is doing just great on
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this.
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Most of the time, that's one that's fully red.
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I don't know.
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Meeting agenda looks okay too. We got some green there.
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Visits to campuses look green. And then probably our third, communication with
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superintendent is probably-- So I would say responding to complaints, avoiding
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surprises, and communication with superintendent is probably kind of where we want
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to start working from.
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All right.
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And not-- Okay. How do we feel about responding to complaints kind of universally?
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Kind of roughly where we came here. Okay? Okay, cool. All right.
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And-
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I don't like starting with the worst and hardest
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... starting with the worst is okay.
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That's okay.
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Well, and first we have to-- So we may not finish everything, but Brittany's going
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to give you something so you know kind of how and where you need to go with this.
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Right? In your packets, there is a worksheet as well in the back, and it says,
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"Operating protocols guide worksheet" on this.
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We put two copies in there in case you didn't have a lot of pages to get this.
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Okay. So if we're following our flowchart, though, of looking at trying to figure
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out how we write this protocol, what are some of the things, what are some of our
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concerns that we're having with responding to complaints?
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Let's just kind of talk through, clarify the first one, just because it clarifies
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the issue. So we need to clarify the issue.
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When we say responding to complaints, what's the issue? What's the concern?
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Where's the problem we want to help to dial out?
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Is it community complaints that you're worried about?
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Is it-- Where do we want to start?
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I'd say community complaints.
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I would think at times, and everyone included, we don't hear about things until it
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comes through the internet or somebody shares a post or something.
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You turn on the TV.
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You turn some-- Whatever that is. And so oftentimes, no fault to our own internal
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staff because they've not even been notified.
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So admittedly, from the folks, the complainers that have posted stuff or said
[54:32]
things, the question is always, "Have you shared that with..." And oftentimes it's,
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"No."
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No.
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Or they put it on, they went to the internet first.
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Yeah, we found social media is way faster than the-
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It's the devil
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... school.
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It does.
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Okay. So we're hearing, is it, and if I'm listening, is it responding to complaints
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is more if you all would like some communication, some lines to be able to say,
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like some direct lines to be able to have, to be able to say, like, "Have you-"
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to experts and have you tell him, is that more what we're going to do?
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I think we-
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I think we generally-
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We've gotten better at that in general, to say, "You've got to go through the
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proper channels."
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Listen,
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if an email comes through, we're saying, "We have forwarded this to the appropriate
[55:20]
channels. We can't handle this, but somebody in the central office and/or needs to
[55:25]
investigate."
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We never say, "I can handle it."
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Yeah.
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We never say, "I can handle it."
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No.
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And a lot of times we'll even include those folks and say, "While this is not in
[55:35]
our realm of expertise, these folks are in the day-to-day.
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If you don't get satisfied, if you need to come back to us, you can.
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But right now, give them the opportunity to handle the problem at hand."
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So that's what everyone's doing now?
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Mm-hmm.
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We say it's operational, and then send it to him-
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It usually includes someone-
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And then follow up
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... someone, if not multiple people involved in the cabinet level who can help
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answer their question. If it's curriculum, obviously it's Dr. Coley.
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If it's something with-
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Well, if it's Terry
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... athletics or operations, it's Mr. Johnson.
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If it's someone's feelings or something going on with a counselor or something,
[56:12]
then it's Dr. Greer. So we try to divide that based on who it is.
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And as the board attorney, do you hear any problems?
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I still think it's just prevalent in our community.
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At
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least I do, I feel uncomfortable
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with
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how frustrated our community is. Even though we're probably handling it
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appropriately, it's still how do we maybe-
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Root issues.
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Uh-huh.
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Like the root of how do you-
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Yes.
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Right.
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And/or, yes. And/or-
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It feels like there's a serious lack of trust.
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So no matter what we do-
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Yes
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... they're going to pounce on it-
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You're exactly right
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... and immediately assume the absolute worst of us no matter what we do, and
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that's very hard to deal with on a daily basis.
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And it takes time, right?
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It didn't take us two years to get here in this spot in our community, so it isn't
[57:07]
going to be fixed in two years. So that takes time and consistent follow-up and
[57:12]
follow-through with things. I think the biggest thing for all of us is those
[57:17]
blindside moments of like, "Dr. Slate's not aware, our staff's not aware, no one's
[57:23]
aware of anything," but next thing you know, the whole community's aware of it, and
[57:27]
it's one of those things that as if we've known about it and just purposely not
[57:31]
doing something to fix it.
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Yeah.
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When you ask, "Oh, have you shared this with your folks?" or, "What do you
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recommend as a solution?" "Oh, I don't have that.
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They don't ever hit me." So that's the hardest part for us is letting them know,
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"Hey, have you followed the proper chain of commands?
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And then if you have, then let us get involved."
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The one thing we've also found is that people lie a lot.
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Yeah.
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So they say they followed the proper chain, and they haven't, or they just-
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Right. Didn't want to answer
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... of course, want to jump right to the top without ever going through anything
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else, and we're all members of this community, so a lot of times we know people
[58:10]
personally. So it's challenging.
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And oftentimes, our children are involved in the same situations that these other
[58:19]
folks' children are involved with, right?
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With this AC issue at North Davidson or Ledford, my child or Ms.
[58:25]
Kunce's child's involved in that as well, right? So we feel their pain also.
[58:29]
I think there's a big differentiator between us as parents here and
[58:35]
humans, and then, "Oh, they're the board." It's some farce of what we're trying to
[58:40]
accomplish.
[58:42]
Right.
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It definitely is a challenge getting your community to understand that you don't
[58:46]
have all the power, and it's something you have to communicate over and over
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and over.
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But it's what you have to do.
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You're educating them on what a board member individually does by
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saying, "You've got to go through the chain of command.
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If you
[59:12]
want your situation handled as quickly as possible, you've got to go through the
[59:17]
chain of command, because if you don't start there, it's going to take much longer
[59:23]
and you're not going to get the resolve that you're looking for."
[59:29]
And that's educating people.
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And as you get new people on the board, it's important to have a conversation with
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them. People are going to come straight to you.
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And unfortunately, nothing like that because you care about what's happening to
[59:48]
their kids. You can express that care, but you certainly have to say, "This is the
[59:53]
fastest way to get it handled." It
[1:00:01]
sounds like everyone is comfortable with the knowledge of who does what in the
[1:00:05]
chain of command. It's just a matter of
[1:00:09]
the few minutes that it takes to share with someone and also make them understand.
[1:00:16]
Any of this has to come back to me
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before the board as judge and jury.
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I can't let you share too much-
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Right
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... when it's personal. And so it's having that care.
[1:00:30]
I think you guys understand exactly what needs to happen, but it's just
[1:00:35]
uncomfortable. And there's also some messaging that you want to get out in the
[1:00:41]
community about you have to build that trust.
[1:00:47]
I think as each of you speak it to say the same thing with a good heart because
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these are your neighbors.
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Catch them in church some days and say, "I hear you." I think
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everyone wants to be heard, but you've got to let people know that someone did.
[1:01:07]
Well, just an example. So Friday night at the football game, we're standing there,
[1:01:12]
right? And I'm standing beside this lady who I didn't personally know.
[1:01:16]
My wife's like, "Yeah, that lady's the one that loves to talk about you all the
[1:01:20]
time on the internet about how terrible you are and this and that." But I'm
[1:01:23]
standing right beside of her and have never had a personal conversation with her as
[1:01:27]
a person. So I want to introduce myself and be like, "Hey, this is my wife.
[1:01:31]
These are my kids. This is who I am." And I think we all feel that way, but
[1:01:34]
oftentimes it's just--
[1:01:39]
A very smart coach told me one time, "You can't reason with unreasonable people at
[1:01:43]
times." So how do we find that common ground so that they understand we're in this
[1:01:47]
boat with you, right? We need to be all rowing in the same direction.
[1:01:51]
And the minute that one person's rowing opposite of all of us, it only slows us
[1:01:55]
down in the district. And we don't always have to agree.
[1:01:57]
We don't agree a lot of times with things, but we try to treat each other with
[1:02:00]
professionalism.
[1:02:02]
And we've agreed to disagree on things, right?
[1:02:04]
And we've had strong-spirited debates.
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But when we leave, we still treat each other with respect and humans, and we've all
[1:02:11]
done that and going to try to do a good job of that.
[1:02:14]
I think what's going to be a wonderful experience is establishing your new
[1:02:19]
strategic plan. Because you're going to be able to hear
[1:02:25]
from constituents what their concerns are.
[1:02:29]
And hopefully,
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if you do it as kitchen table conversations where you might be someplace,
[1:02:37]
not in the forum, but just to hear and talk and let them speak.
[1:02:43]
McDowell County did this when they had some turmoil out in the community.
[1:02:49]
And two portions of the community felt like they were not being heard, and the
[1:02:54]
board had a listening opportunity where they could come and talk.
[1:02:58]
And I don't know if that people would do that, but if you put yourself out there
[1:03:03]
and say, "We want to hear what's on your mind," because it sounds like an
[1:03:07]
opportunity to connect with the community that that needs to happen because you
[1:03:13]
guys know how to handle complaints.
[1:03:18]
But it's the opportunity to connect with the community on some meaningful way so
[1:03:23]
that you can begin to establish trust and get them to see you as well
[1:03:29]
as you seeing them and hearing them.
[1:03:32]
So I don't know that this fixes the protocol. It doesn't fix the protocol.
[1:03:36]
But people use social media to fuss at us. And we're one of five.
[1:03:41]
I'm one of five people that make this decision.
[1:03:43]
As you said, it's an arranged marriage.
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And so I always say, "Listen, I can't change anything.
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There's five of us that have to change it." But we use social media against us.
[1:03:53]
Why can't we use it for us? I know that's not a protocol situation, but as we go
[1:03:57]
towards elections and things like that, maybe a simple
[1:04:03]
description of what-
[1:04:05]
Yes
[1:04:05]
... the school board does, that might be something that would be helpful for our
[1:04:10]
community to understand that we're here to make policy again.
[1:04:14]
It's a policy-driven issue instead of necessarily trying to fix
[1:04:21]
everything in the day-to-day. I think that's something that's
[1:04:31]
Well, I can't sing Samantha's praises enough, but that's the one thing I will say
[1:04:35]
is that having her in our social media corner has made some pretty significant
[1:04:40]
progress in just some of the graphics that she's done have been impressive to me to
[1:04:45]
be able to show that
[1:04:50]
she's focused on different communities.
[1:04:51]
But she's also been able to have something that we've asked for her from a board
[1:04:56]
brief or from a board meeting to explain certain things and in simple,
[1:05:02]
easy terms, because some of what we do is really complicated in my opinion.
[1:05:07]
Yeah, and I love that because I feel like there's a serious lack of knowledge of
[1:05:12]
what that-- And I can say this from going back before I was on board, I had no idea
[1:05:16]
what the board does. And so many people in our community have no idea.
[1:05:20]
They think we are judge and jury- Jury and executioner ...
[1:05:23]
and come straight to us if you've got a problem, because all those other people are
[1:05:27]
lame. They don't know what they're doing.
[1:05:30]
So they just want to come to the board immediately, but they don't know that's
[1:05:34]
counterproductive. That's not going to fix their problem.
[1:05:37]
And if they could see that, and we could put that out, and they could see this is
[1:05:42]
the chain of command. This is what you do if you have a problem.
[1:05:47]
And just make it just clear to the community.
[1:05:50]
Is Samantha here?
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No, she's not.
[1:05:52]
She's not here.
[1:05:53]
I just-
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I was going to say, "Samantha, come up with that brilliant."
[1:05:57]
I got a note.
[1:05:57]
I got a note, too.
[1:05:59]
Yeah.
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I was typing a note and texting it.
[1:06:02]
Well, I think-
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But that's a good point because it's not just happening here.
[1:06:06]
And people can use social media, be proactive, and
[1:06:12]
I think
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this is protocol because we're talking about educating the community.
[1:06:18]
I am excited about that.
[1:06:19]
Samantha does the positive things.
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Mm-hmm.
[1:06:23]
It's always like that, and one of the best things, in my opinion,
[1:06:27]
is that it's not an open season for rebuttal. That's not the platform for that.
[1:06:31]
It's just good points we're punching into the community, and they don't use that
[1:06:35]
like the other Facebook pages to just down us.
[1:06:39]
Mm-hmm.
[1:06:39]
There's some positive approach.
[1:06:40]
Well, the reality is there are thousands of positive things that go on on a daily
[1:06:44]
basis across our district. Yeah. And if we're not properly reflecting those out to
[1:06:48]
the community, then all they hear and see is the loudest, and it may be a small,
[1:06:53]
small portion of people or of the negative that happens.
[1:06:56]
And we have 2,700 employees, right? Things are going to happen.
[1:07:00]
We have 20,000 students. Bad things are going to happen from time to time.
[1:07:04]
That's inevitable. It's any business-
[1:07:07]
But there's so much good
[1:07:07]
... Right, but there's so much good that outweighs of that, and I think that's been
[1:07:10]
a big thing that adding that position and showing those positive things that are
[1:07:14]
going on help
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visualize some of that.
[1:07:18]
And I bet you it's going to make a difference. Adding that position is vital.
[1:07:24]
We had to get a communications person a couple of years ago because it was like us
[1:07:29]
just trying to each do it. The noise is so loud when people want to
[1:07:35]
be negative.
[1:07:36]
Mm-hmm.
[1:07:36]
But I'm so glad you've done that, and
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I'm excited. I know we follow-
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And I think, unfortunately, it used to children education was off limits from a
[1:07:47]
political spectrum, right? Whether it be left or right.
[1:07:50]
And unfortunately, in today's society, let's go after the most vulnerable to make
[1:07:55]
our talking points the loudest, and that's our older folks and our younger folks.
[1:07:59]
And so public education, I think, is under attack from both sides because we've had
[1:08:04]
it personally, right? We've done things where we've had one direction come after
[1:08:08]
us, and we've done things where we've had the other direction come after us.
[1:08:11]
And that's just inevitable in what we do.
[1:08:14]
But at some point, we have to get back to the baseline value of we're here to keep
[1:08:18]
kids safe, make sure they're educated, and set them up for success in that 12-year
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window that we have them in our hands.
[1:08:25]
And once you hit those goals, it'll be exciting to say, "This is why we do what we
[1:08:30]
do because these are our goals."
[1:08:35]
We might have a great idea, but if it's not part of where we're all going, it's
[1:08:41]
important. You just tie that language in with what we do.
[1:08:47]
And I for what it means to y'all.
[1:08:50]
So let's go back to your protocol. We just need make sure we're all kind of clear
[1:08:53]
and understanding. So the protocol we said is we're assigning complaints because we
[1:08:57]
all feel like we do a pretty good job, but let's just write it down so we know that
[1:09:00]
is the protocol. I started the language you all helped me on here. Okay?
[1:09:04]
So I feel like for you all for this one, I'd love it be a set where there seems to
[1:09:07]
be a sentence or two within that protocol.
[1:09:10]
So I'd start to say board member complaint to the appropriate, do you want to say
[1:09:14]
staff member? Do you want to say- Member or members Okay, perfect.
[1:09:19]
Because sometimes certain issues are a multi-pronged approach, right?
[1:09:23]
It's not necessarily one person can give them the answer that they need.
[1:09:26]
So there are times when we have to lump in a couple different leaders to help
[1:09:31]
answer those questions. And that would be easy win for you all right there.
[1:09:35]
So we want to talk about advocating, and that's kind of the extent of it.
[1:09:40]
You're just changing it, right? Essentially, it's going to be board member
[1:09:43]
complaint to appropriate board member. That's your protocol, right?
[1:09:47]
So then what do we do when you think about for violations?
[1:09:50]
Now we've had the conversation before too.
[1:09:52]
They say that typically they want to be chair designated.
[1:09:56]
HR has a conversation with them first, or they might have a personal conversation
[1:10:00]
first, right? I'm just going to use a really nice example.
[1:10:02]
If I have violated this protocol anyway, right?
[1:10:05]
Ramona's going to have a conversation with me because we haven't gone through
[1:10:08]
formal charges yet. Right? We kind of have to do it as staff, just a conversation.
[1:10:12]
That's going to be on the protocol too.
[1:10:14]
It's a regular violation to-
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I thank the chair for consistency.
[1:10:20]
I think so. The biggest thing that I will say and share is, for future and
[1:10:26]
present myself as well, I never want this to be a situation to where we have these
[1:10:30]
protocols and norms that are then used as weaponized against other board members-
[1:10:34]
Yeah
[1:10:34]
... to create the illusion of, "Well, you didn't do what I wanted you to do, so
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we're going to use this against you." While you may not be doing anything that
[1:10:43]
breaks protocol or norm, it may just be an avenue to use to say, "Fall in line and
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get into..." And that's not necessarily always the case.
[1:10:51]
I think when we've had conversations like that, sometimes we've used it in closed
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session just to even just have dialogue.
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Because if I've learned nothing from the chair, it's that I probably need to
[1:11:07]
be reminded sometimes that one of the others is having a conversation-- We were
[1:11:12]
having a conversation about something that was pointed, and I need that reminder as
[1:11:16]
well. And so maybe if we have that conver- I mean, it's always been a gentle
[1:11:21]
conversation when we've had that
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in closed session is what I would say.
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So it could be one-on-one, but I also feel like, so that it's not held against
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somebody like it might have been previously,
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a gentle conversation. Again, as Trisha said, we are all adults, and we really do
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treat each other as equal and as
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friends that all don't have the same common ground sometimes.
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But we really do try to understand each other.
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So a gentle conversation from the board chair may be necessary, but also,
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if it's big enough, the gentle conversation in closed session just to make sure
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that we all are on the same page.
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And we can be progressive. So first you are going to say, "Hey, we're just going to
[1:12:05]
do a member-member. Just amongst ourselves, we're going to just have that chat,
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right? We're going to have a chat about it." Then you want to progress it to chair
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designee.
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I would say or designee because there may be times when that communication isn't
[1:12:18]
productive between the chair and some, so it may need to be the vice chair or vice
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versa. Well, I think with this board, this has never been an issue. Yeah.
[1:12:25]
We are always able to talk, but I know going forward, there will be different
[1:12:30]
boards. So it's going to be fluid
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maybe in the future. But right now, I don't see a need to put something down like
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that to change or put something, I don't know, just make a hard, fast rule.
[1:12:44]
You don't need this, Bridget, but we're going to have some things to kind of like
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roll into the first round. At least we understand first round, we're going to have
[1:12:50]
a different type of conversation. Here's violation.
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Then we're going to have chair designee go through this program.
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Then we'll bring it to the full board in closed session, and something like that
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can sound.
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Yeah.
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This round sets you up for success with that parallel communication.
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I'm also going to give it to you. This is like-
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Right.
[1:13:06]
This is not- So your policies are first, and then your protocols, which will run by
[1:13:11]
your board attorney to make sure everything is on the up and up,
[1:13:17]
is the next step down. It's just a practical guide to help you
[1:13:23]
keep any little break from happening in there, so that you're always focused on
[1:13:28]
the student.
[1:13:29]
To me, it sounds essentially like you're putting common sense on paper.
[1:13:33]
Okay. Yes. I was going to say that at one point, but I said-
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Calm me, I'm not
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Can change them in a minute, especially you, Chair.
[1:13:50]
Sure.
[1:13:50]
Somebody might stand up and be like, "Hey, we need to do this.
[1:13:53]
This is a reminder for everyone what our kind of-"
[1:13:57]
Sure
[1:13:57]
... we've got. We only have so much.
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So it's just a simple conversation.
[1:14:05]
Mm-hmm.
[1:14:05]
But it's a conversation that you need to have, and I would encourage you to
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continue to have them as you move towards election season, and knowing
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that some of us that don't have new persons, a lot of new persons, changes the
[1:14:17]
whole dynamic. And hopefully, it won't be of too much of a different change, but we
[1:14:23]
want to ensure that you're protecting the culture and the processes that
[1:14:29]
you've already got in place.
[1:14:32]
That process generally makes sense, because the last thing on our sheet is just to
[1:14:35]
check in with our attorney, make sure they're not hiding anything, and then to say
[1:14:39]
that we are voting on it. We're going to do ideally two to three months to discuss
[1:14:42]
it on. Ideally, we want a year.
[1:14:45]
Yeah.
[1:14:46]
Or at least-
[1:14:46]
Well, we just go back to that conversation and looking at it-
[1:14:49]
Yeah
[1:14:49]
... and making sure we don't-
[1:14:51]
I think once a year is a good standard to set for us as the board transitions,
[1:14:56]
people come on, people go off.
[1:14:58]
Mm-hmm.
[1:14:58]
Just a refresher, even if the board stays the same, it never hurts to have, and
[1:15:01]
things change over time, right?
[1:15:03]
They do.
[1:15:03]
So.
[1:15:04]
They do evolve. But ultimately, that's the protocol.
[1:15:07]
You should have been having a short conversation where we talk about some things,
[1:15:10]
reference and stuff. We say, "Hey, it's real simple, ABC," and that's it.
[1:15:15]
That's protocol. Great. Yeah. Good job.
[1:15:18]
Good job.
[1:15:19]
Thank you.
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And we're not even going to keep you long, so we're done.
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Hopefully, we'll see you at the follow-up conference or-
[1:15:28]
The national
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... or at annual conference. Hope you'll be there.
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Be heard, let your voice be well heard.
[1:15:36]
And then we're going to have more training for the board members in December in
[1:15:40]
Raleigh, on the 7th, 10th, and
[1:15:45]
11th. We'll be doing it in January, on January 14th and 15th in Raleigh, and then
[1:15:50]
we're going to do it for 2025 and 2026 in Asheville.
[1:15:55]
It's a free member benefit. It's a day and a half session where we go over the
[1:16:00]
basics. We'll say some of the same things that hopefully anyone who's
[1:16:06]
newly elected can come and we'll be good, and we say a lot of the same
[1:16:11]
things, and hopefully we keep you on a great board with each other.
[1:16:17]
It's a phenomenal class, and I love seeing
[1:16:20]
how well everyone's doing together.
[1:16:24]
Are there any questions or comments?
[1:16:27]
So you've got half of them gone. You need to leave.
[1:16:32]
Is it good?
[1:16:34]
You can have the same-
[1:16:35]
We got you
[1:16:35]
... students in other places use telephones and-
[1:16:39]
I know
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... it runs under protocol work, though.
[1:16:46]
That makes the general process make sense, kind of how we roll with that on a deal
[1:16:50]
again.
[1:16:51]
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for sharing with us, Ms. Allison, today.
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We really appreciate it. It's always-
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Thank you
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... a good refresher. Thank you for the stickers.
[1:17:00]
Yeah.
[1:17:01]
Yeah.
[1:17:01]
Well, thank you, and we'll talk about all this with each other.
[1:17:04]
Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. Thank you.
[1:17:08]
Which company are your stickers?
[1:17:11]
Which company are your stickers? Oh.
[1:17:14]
Curriculum, Dr. Coley?
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I have to say, I felt like I needed to get my phone to take pictures because
[1:17:31]
anytime I attend professional learning, I'm always taking pictures so that I can
[1:17:36]
share that out. So I felt like I needed to take pictures over there.
[1:17:39]
Mm-hmm.
[1:17:40]
Great professional learning opportunity. Good evening, Mr.
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Chairman-
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Good evening
[1:17:45]
... Madam Vice Chair, board members.
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I'm really excited this evening to start out in the area of curriculum instruction,
[1:17:52]
giving an EC program support update.
[1:17:57]
I have asked our EC directors, Susan Russell and Jordan Lupton, to come this
[1:18:03]
evening and share with the board, provide a brief overview of our focus this
[1:18:09]
year for support in the Exceptional Children's program.
[1:18:13]
We have two lenses, one of compliance, so that we are following the law and
[1:18:19]
that we are receiving good scores when we are assessed by our indicators,
[1:18:25]
and two, we need that instructional focus, because as you know, I've stood before
[1:18:30]
you on many occasions talking about schools that are designated as targeted support
[1:18:36]
for improvement based upon the subgroup students with disabilities.
[1:18:40]
So I'm really excited this evening to have Mrs. Russell and Ms. Lupton here.
[1:18:45]
I'm going to turn it over to them, and in your packet, you will have the documents
[1:18:50]
that they are going to be providing an overview for.
[1:18:52]
Susan?
[1:18:58]
Good evening, board members. This evening, I am pleased to present our Exceptional
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Children's compliance support plan for the 26-27 school year.
[1:19:08]
Our primary focus with this framework is pretty simple.
[1:19:12]
It's to establish a structured framework to maintain legal compliance,
[1:19:18]
reduce non-compliance risk, and provide differentiated support to our special
[1:19:23]
education teachers in this specific area.
[1:19:27]
To drive this work, we have established a dedicated team of EC compliance coaches
[1:19:33]
that we have structured across our grade levels as well as our specialized
[1:19:37]
programs. Together, this team ensures that every
[1:19:43]
building and specialty area has direct oversight and
[1:19:49]
a go-to compliance expert. This framework establishes a clear understanding
[1:19:55]
of the roles and the responsibilities of both the district staff as well as our
[1:20:00]
classroom EC teachers.
[1:20:04]
When looking specifically at our classroom teachers, they are going to retain
[1:20:09]
primary responsibility for completing the paperwork for the students that they
[1:20:13]
serve on a daily basis, maintaining compliance timelines, using
[1:20:19]
our tracking systems, and then leading those IEP meetings, those conversations
[1:20:24]
about the students that they work with.
[1:20:26]
Our compliance coaches, they act more of a risk mitigation
[1:20:32]
team. They audit documentation, coach our staff, monitor timelines,
[1:20:38]
and proactively identify those risks to prevent non-compliance before it ever
[1:20:43]
happens. Looking a little more at this framework, we know that not every
[1:20:49]
teacher requires the same level of oversight.
[1:20:53]
So to maximize our efficiency, we are implementing a three-tiered differentiated
[1:20:59]
support model.
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To begin with that, looking at a universal lens, all of our teachers have multiple
[1:21:06]
opportunities to receive compliance training within our ECATS, our Every
[1:21:12]
Child Accountability Tracking System, where that is where we house all of our EC
[1:21:17]
documentation,
[1:21:20]
as well as how to not only fill in blanks within that platform, but also to make
[1:21:26]
sure what they're putting in there is compliant and relevant towards the students.
[1:21:31]
We have an EC hub in Google that was created last year, where
[1:21:36]
standardized meeting checklists, some sentence starters for specific documents, and
[1:21:43]
access to previously recorded trainings is available at just the click of a button
[1:21:47]
for any of our staff.
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I also meet with our new EC teachers on a monthly basis to help
[1:21:55]
them to navigate the ECATS system and developing compliant
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documents.
[1:22:03]
For some of our upcoming workdays, we have designated compliance labs where
[1:22:08]
teachers can select to go to small trainings and
[1:22:13]
learn more about specific documents within the IEP platform.
[1:22:18]
And then also, we are currently working to offer monthly after-school trainings.
[1:22:24]
Again, looking at specific documents is on a voluntary basis, and kind of seeing
[1:22:30]
what kind of interest we have to begin with to see if we need to expand that to
[1:22:34]
maybe twice a month. But looking to begin that very soon on a monthly basis for any
[1:22:40]
and all of our teachers interested.
[1:22:43]
So when looking at the tier support that we have, the first tier is tier three, and
[1:22:49]
that is for our teachers who need intensive support,
[1:22:52]
possibly new teachers, but not always necessarily-
[1:22:57]
But those are ones that have been identified either from our coaches, our
[1:23:02]
administrators, as well as we also ask our teachers to self-identify themselves as
[1:23:07]
where they felt their comfort levels were.
[1:23:10]
And, so those that we identify as Tier 3 will be
[1:23:16]
receiving weekly coaching from our compliance coaches, and they will
[1:23:22]
also have their paperworks pre-audited before a meeting, and the opportunity to
[1:23:27]
lead and co-lead meetings with our coaches.
[1:23:32]
And then the goal is for our coaches to gradually fade that support
[1:23:38]
as competence is demonstrated. Our second tier, and what we consider moderate
[1:23:44]
support, these are for our experienced teachers who maybe just need some refining
[1:23:48]
of their practices.
[1:23:51]
And so their documents, one of those will be pre-audited, and then
[1:23:57]
again, gives time for those conversations with the compliance coaches to show that
[1:24:02]
the teachers can demonstrate mastery on those, and then they transition into more
[1:24:07]
of an independent practice. And they'll be supported bi-monthly with
[1:24:13]
check-ins as well as any pre-audits that they may request, especially if they have
[1:24:18]
a complex meeting coming up and they want our coaches to look over those.
[1:24:23]
And then our final tier is Tier 1, and that is our universal support.
[1:24:28]
And that's for our consistent high-performing teachers who already know how to
[1:24:33]
operate independently, and they will have quarterly spot checks, as well as
[1:24:38]
monthly meetings with our EC chairs at each school.
[1:24:42]
And then, of course, access to all of our resources and have that flexibility to
[1:24:47]
reach out to our coaches or any of the district staff whenever they need some
[1:24:52]
specific support as well.
[1:24:55]
Another central pillar of this accountability instruction is the pre-audit
[1:25:00]
protocol, and so we have asked that for any documents
[1:25:06]
that need to be pre-audited, that teachers get those to our compliance coaches at
[1:25:10]
least five days prior to the meeting.
[1:25:12]
And then that gives our coaches an opportunity to look over those, to give
[1:25:16]
suggestions or things that may need to be adjusted,
[1:25:21]
to get those back to the teachers. And then if conversations need to be had on how
[1:25:25]
to move forward with that, they're also given that opportunity.
[1:25:30]
This workflow gives a clear window to correct errors before sitting down with
[1:25:34]
parents and ask questions of their coach, ensuring that meetings are professional,
[1:25:40]
legally sound, and smooth. Accountability is paired directly with data
[1:25:46]
monitoring. Our monitoring and accountability coordinator maintains a district
[1:25:50]
dashboard tracking timeline, which looks at our different indicators as well as
[1:25:56]
upcoming dates for IEPs, reevaluations, behavior intervention plans, et cetera,
[1:26:03]
alongside of error categories. And then this is shared monthly with our compliance
[1:26:09]
coaches, who then shares that out to the principals and the EC chairs at the
[1:26:13]
schools. This plan provides a proactive, systematic, and compassionate framework
[1:26:19]
that supports our teachers, protects our district from non-compliance risks, and
[1:26:23]
most importantly, ensures our exceptional children receive the quality services and
[1:26:29]
legally binding supports they deserve.
[1:26:32]
Thank you for your time and continued support of our EC department, and I'm happy
[1:26:36]
to open the floor to any questions concerning our compliance.
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How did you choose your coaches?
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I'm sorry?
[1:26:45]
How did you choose your different coaches?
[1:26:47]
So we actually worked together as a team. We worked with Dr.
[1:26:51]
Coley and then Jordan and myself, and we looked as to the qualification of our
[1:26:57]
current, because previously we had larger numbers of compliance coaches.
[1:27:02]
And we've been moving this needle, this is going into the third year, so this is
[1:27:07]
the biggest shift. But we've started shifting that throughout the past two years,
[1:27:11]
and we really looked at, when Jordan gets up here, she'll talk about our
[1:27:15]
instructional coaches. And so we took our current coaches, and then we looked to
[1:27:20]
see those that were stronger in our compliance area, those that had those strong
[1:27:24]
instructional backgrounds or those strong EC knowledge paperwork backgrounds, and
[1:27:29]
then we chose them from those places.
[1:27:34]
I have a question.
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Yes.
[1:27:35]
So a lot of this that you spoke on is about teacher education, right?
[1:27:40]
Educating teachers, making sure they're staying compliant, making sure they're
[1:27:43]
doing the things that need to be done.
[1:27:45]
Mm-hmm.
[1:27:45]
But a lot of times when we get issues brought to our level, it's oftentimes not the
[1:27:51]
teacher, it's the communication between the teacher or at the lowest level up
[1:27:55]
through that middle, what I would consider middle management.
[1:27:58]
Mm-hmm.
[1:27:58]
So your counselors, maybe it's your instructional coach.
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What type of training are we doing to make sure that the communication is flowing
[1:28:05]
from not only the top down, but from the bottom up, right?
[1:28:09]
Because I think one thing that we hear a lot from the EC is that our staff, maybe
[1:28:13]
our teachers, feel supported, but they maybe don't feel heard.
[1:28:18]
Right.
[1:28:18]
And I think there's a difference, right?
[1:28:19]
Right.
[1:28:19]
I think being supportive and giving them the tools they need, but the day-to-day
[1:28:24]
concerns and struggles, I mean, it's grown, right?
[1:28:26]
I mean, let's look at EC arena, talking about 10 years ago, what we would say to
[1:28:30]
ourselves. Think back 10, 15 years ago, what EC looked like and what it is now,
[1:28:35]
right? It's probably the fastest-growing area in our school system.
[1:28:38]
And so I just want to understand, I mean, I think this is a great plan for our
[1:28:43]
teachers, but I would like to also understand how we're making sure that that
[1:28:47]
middle-level folks, our guidance counselors, the ones that are making sure those
[1:28:52]
I's are dotted, that it's being properly pushed down to them as well.
[1:28:55]
Sure. So when talking specifically about our coaches-
[1:28:57]
Principals and stuff like that.
[1:28:59]
Yes. So when looking specifically at our coaches, we are actually doing a monthly,
[1:29:05]
we meet monthly with our leadership staff.
[1:29:07]
And we are doing some coaching professional development with our district-level
[1:29:13]
staff, to help them understand the difference between coaching and just talking at
[1:29:19]
people. But having that empathy and understanding, allowing folks to ask questions,
[1:29:24]
and then they ask questions as well.
[1:29:27]
We have really
[1:29:29]
put it aside for ourselves this year to get ourselves more into schools and assist.
[1:29:35]
We have an open line of communication.
[1:29:37]
Even though we have that chain of command, so to speak, we do have that open line
[1:29:41]
of communication, which is one of the main reasons I wanted to take our group of
[1:29:44]
new EC teachers. I wanted to go ahead and build that foundation
[1:29:51]
at our level.
[1:29:53]
Also, as far as principals go, we meet at the K12 meetings.
[1:29:58]
We try to do some type of presentation each month.
[1:30:00]
Jordan's currently working on compliance about the different indicators.
[1:30:04]
And then, we look at just different pieces of information.
[1:30:08]
This past month, I did training on seclusion and restraints, as that's required for
[1:30:14]
anyone to do each year. And so we're trying to get out
[1:30:20]
anywhere and everywhere, and I say we, I mean our department.
[1:30:23]
Mm.
[1:30:23]
So if it's staff meetings, PLCs, level with principals meetings, K12
[1:30:29]
meetings, anywhere that we can get out and show that, "Hey, we are here to support.
[1:30:35]
We hear you, and we want to be a part of what's going on."
[1:30:39]
Absolutely. I'll just add to that, too.
[1:30:41]
To your point, EC doesn't operate in a silo.
[1:30:44]
Mm.
[1:30:44]
And we've talked about this a lot as a curriculum team.
[1:30:48]
And so we are noticing and learning all the different people who need EC
[1:30:52]
information that we may not automatically think about.
[1:30:55]
For example, we have a monthly newsletter that we send out that has grown in terms
[1:31:00]
of the number of people who want that monthly newsletter, right?
[1:31:02]
Right.
[1:31:02]
Because to your point, our counselors also need that information.
[1:31:05]
Our instructional coaches on the gen ed side want that information.
[1:31:08]
So we are trying to broaden and really make sure that we are giving that
[1:31:12]
communication to everyone who needs it.
[1:31:14]
That's great. Thank you. Yeah.
[1:31:17]
And this one-
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Oh, go ahead.
[1:31:19]
I'm sorry. Just one, not a question, maybe just a recommendation or for the group
[1:31:24]
to consider. I mean, I would like to see the compliance data.
[1:31:27]
I don't see where the board is mentioned and that being shared with the board, but
[1:31:31]
I would think we would want to see that at least twice a year.
[1:31:34]
Absolutely.
[1:31:34]
So we would know where we're at. But that's not-
[1:31:37]
No, that's not a problem at all. And again, we look at that every month.
[1:31:40]
Right.
[1:31:41]
And our monitoring and compliance and accountability coordinator, that's what she
[1:31:46]
does on a daily basis.
[1:31:48]
I'm very excited for your dashboard.
[1:31:50]
Yes.
[1:31:50]
Yeah.
[1:31:51]
It's a lot, but it's good.
[1:31:53]
Yeah.
[1:31:53]
Yeah.
[1:31:53]
Thank you.
[1:31:54]
And if we could get emailed that newsletter also, I would love to see that.
[1:31:58]
Yeah, I think including the board, absolutely, 1,000% moving forward.
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Add a couple more to that list.
[1:32:04]
Sure, absolutely.
[1:32:07]
Mine was a simple question, because I don't quite understand.
[1:32:10]
It said, "Maintain the compliance and timelines and document the compliance
[1:32:13]
tracker." Are you two managing the compliance tracker?
[1:32:16]
Who's managing the compliance trackers apart from the EC coaches?
[1:32:20]
I want to make sure that it's not just hitting the coaches, that you guys are
[1:32:24]
actually looking at it physically as well.
[1:32:25]
Absolutely. So, as I mentioned in there, our compliance and accountability
[1:32:30]
coordinator is seeing that overall, and then we meet with her.
[1:32:35]
Okay.
[1:32:36]
And then also, I meet monthly with the compliance coaches, and she's in that
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meeting as well.
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Okay.
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The
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three of us usually meet weekly, and we just cover a gamut of things, and
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compliance is definitely something that we're always looking at, because indicators
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come due all throughout the year, and so we want to make sure we're on top of that.
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But yes, ma'am, we have access, and we look at those as
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well.
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Thank you.
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Any other questions for compliance?
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If not-
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Ms. Evans.
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Good evening. I'm pleased to share with you our 2026/2027 Instructional Support
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Plan for Exceptional Children, and the work that we're doing to really strengthen
[1:33:20]
the instruction for students with disabilities. You all have seen our data.
[1:33:24]
You know that we have some work to do in this area.
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And I loved hearing your future headlines a minute ago, because I'm hopeful that
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this plan is going to get us there.
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We are intentionally asking a bigger question as a department this year, which is
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what does high-quality, specially designed instruction look like in our classrooms
[1:33:43]
for our EC students, and how do we know if it's making a difference?
[1:33:47]
And so that is really the foundation of this plan.
[1:33:50]
Similarly to our compliance plan, at the center of our plan are these EC
[1:33:54]
instructional coaches. One of the most significant shifts we did make this year was
[1:33:59]
within that leadership structure, as Susan mentioned, where we intentionally moved
[1:34:03]
some of those positions into instructional coaching roles.
[1:34:08]
So compliance remains critically important, but we also are recognizing that our
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schools need instructional support.
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We need that ongoing instructional support so that we can improve the quality of
[1:34:19]
instruction for our students. Our coaches bring many years of experience
[1:34:25]
working with students with disabilities, and they understand the needs of our
[1:34:29]
students, and the realities that our teachers face in the classroom every day
[1:34:33]
because they've lived it.
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So our work in this plan you'll see is organized around four essential priorities.
[1:34:40]
The first one is high-quality, specially designed instruction.
[1:34:44]
We saw that we needed to clearly define what specially designed instruction is,
[1:34:50]
what it looks like, and what we would expect to see in our classrooms across the
[1:34:54]
district. We know that it needs to align to IEP goals and student needs, and also
[1:34:59]
to grade level standards, but it also needs to be well-planned, it needs to be very
[1:35:03]
intentional, and it needs to include progress monitoring.
[1:35:06]
We have to have evidence of how our students are responding to instruction.
[1:35:11]
We have also identified specific instructional practices and programs for the
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different settings. In our resource classrooms, that would include the use of our
[1:35:21]
district-approved intervention programs with fidelity.
[1:35:24]
In our co-teaching classrooms, we're emphasizing the parallel teaching, station
[1:35:28]
teaching, alternative teaching models, because those are the models that create
[1:35:32]
those meaningful opportunities for specially designed instruction within the
[1:35:36]
general education environment.
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The second priority that you'll see in the plan is effective service delivery.
[1:35:42]
So we want to move beyond simply asking, "Are we providing the service? Check.
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Yes." No. We want to actually ask what does that service look like?
[1:35:52]
And so for co-teaching, we want to see that intentional shared planning between the
[1:35:56]
gen ed teacher and the EC teacher. We want to make sure there are clearly defined
[1:36:00]
roles for both teachers, and that both teachers are actively engaged in
[1:36:04]
instruction. In our resource settings, we want to make sure that our instruction is
[1:36:08]
directly tied to those IEP goals, that there has been structured lesson planning,
[1:36:12]
and that we are using evidence-based high leverage practices in those classes.
[1:36:18]
Our third priority is instructional accountability. This is a big one.
[1:36:22]
So, in our TSI schools in particular, our EC instructional coaches are going to be
[1:36:28]
conducting monthly fidelity observations.
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These are not meant to be gotcha observations.
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They are designed to give us a consistent picture of what specially designed
[1:36:38]
instruction looks like across our schools, and then help our schools to identify
[1:36:42]
instructional priorities for each of our teachers and decide what support they may
[1:36:47]
need next. An important part of that process is what we're calling instructional
[1:36:52]
roundtables. And Mr. Jarvis, I think this also answers one of your questions.
[1:36:56]
So twice a year, and hopefully in the future more often, our coaches are going to
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sit down with our school administrators and our EC teams to really look
[1:37:05]
collectively. What is our data telling us? What is our student data telling us?
[1:37:08]
What are those observation trends that we're seeing when our coaches are going into
[1:37:12]
our classrooms?
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Are we using our programs with fidelity?
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And then if not, what areas of concern do we see?
[1:37:22]
And then we're going to use that information to specifically define action steps
[1:37:26]
for each school, because it's going to be different from school to school.
[1:37:29]
We want to bring all of those pieces together.
[1:37:31]
And then from there, you'll see similar to our compliance support plan, we have a
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tiered coaching model. So some of our teachers just need some routine observations
[1:37:39]
and maybe some resources. Others may benefit from a full coaching cycle that
[1:37:43]
includes modeling from the coaches, co-planning with the coaches, reviewing student
[1:37:48]
data with the coaches, and then teachers who need that intensive support will get
[1:37:53]
those frequent classroom visits, and a lot of modeling and support and
[1:37:56]
collaboration.
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And then you'll see our fourth priority is continuous improvement.
[1:38:02]
So we do not want this to be a plan that simply sits on paper.
[1:38:07]
Our coaches are going to analyze all of that data, all of those trends, and then
[1:38:11]
use that to determine what professional development needs we need to provide, and
[1:38:16]
then adjust the priorities for our coaching throughout the year.
[1:38:20]
One important part of that is we've got to strengthen our progress monitoring.
[1:38:24]
And so since the beginning of school earlier this month, our teachers have been
[1:38:28]
already establishing our baseline data and then using those assessments to
[1:38:33]
determine where to start. And then we're going to be repeating those middle and end
[1:38:37]
of year or semester. That's going to give us that clear picture of whether our
[1:38:42]
students are actually growing, and it's going to allow us to make some good
[1:38:45]
instructional adjustments when they are not.
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So we know this work will continue to evolve as we are learning, and we're learning
[1:38:53]
from our data. But we believe this plan is going to give us that strong structure
[1:38:57]
for instructional impact, and hopefully ultimately better outcomes for our students
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with disabilities. We thank you for your support.
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I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have about this plan or the work
[1:39:08]
that we have underway.
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I don't have any questions. I have one recommendation or suggestion I would like to
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throw out there. That during some of this stuff that it sounds, and I know that you
[1:39:22]
guys do, and we know it, we see it, we hear it.
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Take Sam along with you to some of this stuff and have her share out to the
[1:39:30]
community some of the great things we do in our EC department, because I think,
[1:39:34]
again, it goes back to the previous discussion we had earlier.
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It takes one negative and it takes 30 positive.
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Absolutely.
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And I know we've got 30 positive, but we're not oftentimes putting that out there
[1:39:45]
for everyone to see. We know it in this room because we're in it every day and we
[1:39:49]
hear about it, but the common person doesn't see that.
[1:39:52]
It needed to amplified.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Amplify that. Because I know the great work you guys do, and I know when you look
[1:40:00]
at the things that have been added on from a responsibility standpoint since 1970,
[1:40:05]
the list for the EC department is staggering compared to everywhere else in public
[1:40:10]
education. So we understand that.
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I think it's important that the community sees what you guys do on a day-to-day
[1:40:17]
basis more so.
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Thank you. That's great.
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That's all I have. We appreciate all you do.
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At the end of your progress monitoring expectations, there's a highlighted section
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there. It says, "Under construction, the data dashboard for EC."
[1:40:29]
Yes.
[1:40:29]
Is that something that can be, once it is constructed, is that something that can
[1:40:34]
be open to the board, to the public?
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Yeah.
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How can we help with that information?
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Sure. We can compile and share that with you. We'd be happy to.
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They're a little different from school to school, well obviously,
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because the
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tools that are being used are different-
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Mm-hmm
[1:40:54]
... at the middle school level versus the high school level versus the elementary
[1:40:57]
school level. But yeah, we can absolutely share that data.
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Just wondering if we could exploit that data to people to, like you were talking
[1:41:04]
about-
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Yeah
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... get them in the know.
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Mm-hmm.
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And not just for positive, but just for data in general.
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Yeah.
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Especially the EC families.
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They're really got eyes on all of the criteria.
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Absolutely.
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Sure.
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Yeah, the more informed they are, the better it is.
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The less problems.
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Yes, exactly.
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You know, I'm amazed at how many of our high school folks, when they have a
[1:41:24]
one-to-one in their classroom, how positive of an experience it is, right?
[1:41:28]
And a lot of times you think, "Oh, it's going to be a disruption, and we've got
[1:41:31]
this..." More times than not, having that one-to-one, having that assistance in
[1:41:35]
there, is a positive for all the children in that classroom, right?
[1:41:38]
Mm-hmm.
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Your gen ed folks and those that maybe have a disability.
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And again, I don't think we do a good enough job reflecting that in the community
[1:41:47]
of what that means to those kids that are your typical kids, right?
[1:41:50]
Yes.
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And being inclusive and understanding that.
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So-
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Absolutely
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... I would encourage to continue to do more of that.
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Will do.
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Thank you for this information.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Anything else?
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That's it.
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Thank you all so much.
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Thank you. As you can see, these ladies work extremely hard, and when we talk about
[1:42:12]
the world of exceptional children, there are so many facets within, and that's
[1:42:17]
already been shared. A lot of work goes into it.
[1:42:20]
But you're right, we need to accentuate and share the positives.
[1:42:23]
There are many positives happening, and oftentimes when it comes to
[1:42:29]
exceptional children, is you only hear the negatives.
[1:42:32]
And so we'll start sharing the newsletter with the board, but then
[1:42:38]
also we'll do a better job of maybe in the weekly board briefs, instead of just
[1:42:43]
highlighting some things that happen, sharing some specific comments from what has
[1:42:48]
taken place this week. And of course, getting Samantha to go out and cover that and
[1:42:54]
run it on social media as well. So thank you for that.
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Yeah.
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Great suggestions. Also, I wanted to add this.
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When someone asked the question about communication, I believe it was you, Mr.
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Chairman. One thing we talked about is also putting out a Google Form
[1:43:09]
survey to EC teachers to collect some information and
[1:43:15]
feedback from them, especially as we look at these two areas that we're focusing on
[1:43:20]
this year to again, bring information specifically back to these ladies and to--
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That can then go forward to the coaches as well. So thank you for that.
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The next item I have this evening is the English Language Arts standards rollout.
[1:43:37]
So one thing that the Department of Public Instruction has been doing for the last
[1:43:42]
six years is, um, developing the next set of
[1:43:47]
standards, K12, for English language arts.
[1:43:51]
In your packet, I have given you an infographic of our rollout for the new ELA
[1:43:57]
standards, as well as a timeline for that rollout.
[1:44:02]
And tonight, I just wanted to give you a brief overview of this.
[1:44:08]
Davidson County Schools will be rolling out these new ELA standards, K12, under the
[1:44:13]
banner of A Year of Learning or a Future of Success, and
[1:44:19]
that is to equip our teachers. This year is considered the installation
[1:44:25]
year by the Department of Public Instruction.
[1:44:27]
What that means is, because there have been significant changes in
[1:44:33]
the K12 ELA standards, they want teachers
[1:44:38]
well-versed and educated on what those changes are, so that teachers can
[1:44:44]
begin right now thinking about how the new standards compare to the standards
[1:44:50]
they're currently teaching, and they have been teaching for the last nine years.
[1:44:56]
Because as I said, there are substantial changes.
[1:44:59]
So I want you to understand what some of those changes are and why we're going to
[1:45:03]
do a year of rolling this out with our staff.
[1:45:07]
First, these new standards align directly with the science of reading.
[1:45:12]
That's the K-5 letters training that our K-5 teachers are all required, and
[1:45:18]
EC teachers in K-5 are required to take part in.
[1:45:22]
These standards are also evidence-based practices for ELA instruction.
[1:45:28]
They focus on building student knowledge, vocabulary, and
[1:45:33]
comprehension. I'm really excited for October the 5th.
[1:45:37]
You're going to hear what Davidson County Schools has already done in building
[1:45:41]
student knowledge, and we're on the cutting edge of some great work happening
[1:45:46]
across the state of North Carolina. So stay tuned.
[1:45:48]
We're excited to share that with you.
[1:45:51]
These new standards also ensure consistency and coherence across grade levels.
[1:45:56]
They prepare students to not only be college-ready, but career-ready, or perhaps
[1:46:02]
just for success in life. Full implementation of the new ELA
[1:46:07]
standards and state testing on these new ELA standards, so that's third, fourth,
[1:46:12]
and fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth EOG reading tests, as well
[1:46:18]
as English 2, all of that will take place in the 2027/2028 school
[1:46:24]
year. Again, that is the reason we cannot wait to put these standards in front of
[1:46:30]
our teachers. If we wait until the end of the school year and then begin to roll
[1:46:34]
this out, our teachers are behind and are playing catch up all year long next
[1:46:40]
year with understanding new standards.
[1:46:43]
So to simplify this for you, I just want you to understand what we're going to be
[1:46:47]
doing. This school year, we have designed a continuous cycle of professional
[1:46:53]
learning to ensure that our teachers are fully prepared for next school year with
[1:46:58]
these new ELA standards. Our ultimate goal is to develop confident
[1:47:04]
teachers with a deep understanding of these new ELA standards that reflect
[1:47:10]
high-quality instruction and maximize classroom impact.
[1:47:16]
So we're going to do that. You probably are saying, "Well, how are you going to do
[1:47:19]
that?" Well, first, we're going to build capacity, and we do that by the curriculum
[1:47:23]
directors will lead monthly professional development sessions with our
[1:47:28]
instructional coaches that are in all of our schools. So Ms.
[1:47:32]
Willard will work with the elementary instructional coaches, Ms.
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Bush with the middle school, and Dr.
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Milstead with high school to focus on the new ELA standards.
[1:47:42]
From there, the instructional coaches will do the school level training.
[1:47:46]
So they will take the exact same model that is utilized with them
[1:47:52]
to return to their respective schools and train model strategies and support
[1:47:58]
ELA teachers as they begin to take a look and learn and understand these new
[1:48:03]
standards. They can also incorporate some of these strategies in with this year's
[1:48:08]
standards. The third piece of that is resources and pacing
[1:48:14]
alignment. In the spring, we will pull teams of teachers together and instructional
[1:48:20]
coaches, just as we did this past spring, and they will work with the
[1:48:26]
directors to align pacing and our pacing guides, as well as all of our
[1:48:31]
instructional resources, to guarantee consistency, to have that
[1:48:36]
coherence across the district, and ensure that we have high-quality instruction in
[1:48:42]
all of our classrooms next school year.
[1:48:46]
One thing that I am happy to say in my conversations with the Department of Public
[1:48:50]
Instruction as part of this rollout and in the training that I've been a part of
[1:48:55]
with our directors, Davidson County Schools is in a good spot.
[1:49:00]
We have been saving our textbook allocated dollars from the
[1:49:05]
state to look at perhaps purchasing a core reading
[1:49:10]
program to help align with these new standards.
[1:49:15]
But in my conversations with them, they said, "You're in better shape than most
[1:49:18]
districts." Because a lot of districts have already adopted, and so they're going
[1:49:21]
to have to take what they've already purchased and make that align to these
[1:49:26]
standards. If not, supplement other pieces to have the alignment.
[1:49:32]
We have our set aside dollars from textbook dollars to purchase the resources we
[1:49:38]
need to teach these standards. And so I'm really excited about that, and I'll be
[1:49:43]
sharing more information with this board once we get into the spring and we're
[1:49:47]
really ready to take a look at that.
[1:49:50]
So just to summarize for you, Davidson County Schools is taking a
[1:49:55]
proactive phased approach to these new ELA standards.
[1:50:01]
We're going to use '26, '27 school year as a dedicated year of professional
[1:50:07]
learning and resource alignment so that our teachers
[1:50:12]
K-12 who teach ELA standards that our teachers and our students are fully supported
[1:50:18]
ahead of the 2027-'28 school year, and before the
[1:50:23]
'27-'28 assessment transition occurs, because we know any time there's
[1:50:29]
new standards and there's a new test, there's always a gap in there.
[1:50:34]
So we're hoping to be proactive by really working on this and rolling this out this
[1:50:40]
year. Also in your packet, I'm not going to go through it for you because you can
[1:50:44]
see that, you will see our installation timeline by levels.
[1:50:49]
So that's in there so you can see what we're going to be doing at the elementary
[1:50:53]
level, the middle school level, and the high school level.
[1:50:55]
They're slightly different because the standards are slightly different, but we're
[1:50:59]
very excited about this work. Just wanted to bring that before you tonight because
[1:51:04]
you may hear from teachers saying, "Oh, I'm still teaching the old.
[1:51:10]
I'm learning the new. I'm finding a way to figure out how's this new going to work
[1:51:14]
with what I'm used to teaching and I've taught the last nine years." So we wanted
[1:51:20]
you to understand what we're doing with this rollout by providing you this
[1:51:24]
information this evening.
[1:51:28]
Any questions about that? It's really just for your information.
[1:51:32]
It's good to be proactive.
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We like being proactive. Yes,
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sir. The
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next item I have for you this evening, I am requesting approval of a service
[1:51:47]
agreement with Supportive Care ABA.
[1:51:51]
This agency would like to provide applied behavior analysis services to students in
[1:51:56]
Davidson County Schools that have privately contracted with Supportive Care
[1:52:02]
ABA. So tonight I am bringing this memorandum of agreement before you
[1:52:08]
for approval.
[1:52:11]
Any questions on-
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They've been through the same vetting process as all the ABAs.
[1:52:15]
Everything.
[1:52:15]
Yes, sir. And they will have an onboarding with me before they ever step foot in
[1:52:20]
our schools.
[1:52:23]
Any questions? The board heard Dr.
[1:52:25]
Coley's request for Supportive Care ABA for applied behavioral analysis services.
[1:52:32]
Do I have a motion to approve this memorandum of agreement?
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I'll make a motion.
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Motion. Do I have a second?
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I'll second.
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All in favor?
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Thank you, board
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Thank you.
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The next item I have this evening, tonight I bring before you a request for the
[1:52:48]
purchase of OnToCollege. This is an online software program that
[1:52:54]
provides ACT prep from Baylor Enterprises Incorporated.
[1:53:00]
This is a one-year contract purchase from Baylor Enterprises.
[1:53:06]
The cost of this online test prep resource is
[1:53:10]
$35,284, and we are using state at-risk
[1:53:15]
funds. Typically, what we have done the last number of years, and I want to say
[1:53:20]
probably 10 plus years, we have taken at-risk funds to give to our high schools
[1:53:26]
for them to provide ACT sessions after school, also tutoring
[1:53:32]
sessions after school. And what we have found, in the last seven years, is
[1:53:38]
students are not interested in staying after school.
[1:53:41]
Now that we have our flex time available each and every day in all of our high
[1:53:46]
schools, we want to use flex time with sophomores and juniors in
[1:53:52]
utilizing OnToCollege for ACT prep.
[1:53:57]
We have had proven results in using OnToCollege.
[1:54:00]
We haven't purchased it in several years, but when we did, we were getting proven
[1:54:05]
results with using OnToCollege platform.
[1:54:09]
It is engaging, it's high energy in the format of it with students, so we're very
[1:54:14]
excited about this opportunity. Again, we're using the state at-risk
[1:54:20]
funds to pay for this. If you look specifically at the quote,
[1:54:26]
you will notice that we do not have all of our schools listed.
[1:54:29]
Not all 10 high schools are listed on the quote, and there's a very good reason for
[1:54:35]
that. Some of the high schools have developed their own.
[1:54:39]
At Central Davidson High School, the instructional coach has developed an
[1:54:45]
ACT prep program that they are using, so they have requested to receive their
[1:54:51]
allocation of state at-risk funds to be used on something else that's a need at
[1:54:56]
their school, based on how this was allocated per school.
[1:55:01]
And then another example is at South Davidson Middle and High School.
[1:55:06]
Teachers there have created a system, and they have been using that.
[1:55:10]
They saw great success with it last year during flex block as they
[1:55:16]
provided this small group instruction on ACT prep with students.
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So those are just two. All principals had the opportunity to give feedback and
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talk with teachers on how they wanted to proceed with ACT prep.
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Oak Grove High School is another one just off the top when I wasn't thinking about.
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They purchased Albert to support their AP classes, and Albert
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has an ACT prep component in it that teachers at Oak Grove High School prefer
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to use during flex. So, we do allow for that differentiation based on school
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need. But as you can see, the majority of our high schools prefer OnToCollege.
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I've got a question about-
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Yes.
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First of all, have you used OnToCollege before?
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Yes, sir. And we have proven results that it has worked well.
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And
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based on the different schools that aren't listed here, if you have four different
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methods to do the same ACT prep, is there a best practice that's getting better
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results, or is it just kind of carte blanche or whatever works for that school?
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Right. Well, part of it is what works best for each school.
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I will say we have not used OnToCollege in five years.
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We were seeing great results, but due to funding issues, we did not purchase
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OnToCollege because, again, at that time, we were using Albert district-wide with
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our advanced placement courses. And some schools were trying out the ACT prep
[1:56:51]
portion of that, which is why Oak Grove High School chooses to use school funds to
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purchase that for their ACT prep and AP to support AP classrooms.
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So we saw proven results. And in the last two years, principals have said, "We're
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not able to really use our at-risk funds because students are not willing to stay
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after school. We would love to be able to take those funds and put them towards
[1:57:18]
something that is needed in our schools that will help raise student achievement."
[1:57:23]
The majority of them said, "We need ACT prep," because that is one component of
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high school achievement when they get their school performance grade.
[1:57:33]
The others felt that what they've worked on is working and they
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have other needs that they would like to spend those dollars on.
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Across the district, they're all getting a chance at ACT prep.
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It just looks different at each school.
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Yes, sir. And then if they choose not to go with OnToCollege, they may be using
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their dollars that will be allocated for them for something else.
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And all of them are getting good results?
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Yes, sir. And like I said, we haven't used this in five years, but we have proven
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results from Oak Grove High School.
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From when you did use it.
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Yes, sir. And we didn't even have a flex block then.
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Mm-hmm.
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We had to find time to use ACT prep with OnToCollege, and most of it was after
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school then.
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After school, yeah.
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Yes.
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So this is going to be used for the pre-ACT kids that are getting-
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Correct
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... ready in a flex situation.
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Absolutely.
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For all kids, not just-
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We will target sophomores and juniors because it's their junior year they take the
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ACT-
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ACT
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... but yes, we do the pre-ACT as well with the sophomores.
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Any questions?
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It saved me a whole lot of money because I paid for a program.
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And programs are very expensive.
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Expensive.
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Yeah.
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It was 300 and some dollars.
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Good.
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The board y'all heard Dr. Coley's request for Baylor Enterprises OnToCollege
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ACT prep, excuse me, at a cost of $35,284 paid for with state
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at-risk funds. Do I have a motion to approve this request?
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I'll make a motion.
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Do I have a second?
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I'll second.
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All in favor?
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Thank you, board members. I can assure you, you just made some high schools
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extremely happy about that. The final item I have this evening is Unique
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Learning standards-based curriculum and monitoring.
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Tonight I bring before you, this is a renewal
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that we are requesting approval of Everway for the purchase of a one-year
[1:59:24]
subscription for unique learning standards, aligned content, data and assessment
[1:59:30]
tools for IEP development and progress monitoring, and tools for non-verbal
[1:59:35]
individuals or cognitive challenges for use in our adaptive classrooms.
[1:59:41]
Unique learning is aligned to the North Carolina Extended Content Standards.
[1:59:46]
This is the software that we have been using.
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These are the lessons teachers teach in those classrooms.
[1:59:53]
It is age-appropriate, so when you think about adaptive programs,
[1:59:59]
students can remain in school to age 22.
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So it is age-appropriate academic exposure content that is appropriate for
[2:00:08]
cognitive depth with unique learning.
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It does provide that multi-tiered differentiation for students in our adaptive
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programs. And as I mentioned, it also helps students that have
[2:00:23]
integrated augmentative communication needs, such as assisted
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technology features. It will allow for touch screens and it will allow for
[2:00:35]
symbol sticks, all of those many different assisted technology pieces.
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And it provides real-time data and tracking for our teachers at the school
[2:00:46]
level for progress monitoring of needs.
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So tonight, I bring this request to you for this unique learning.
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The cost of the extended content standards-based curriculum and monitoring is
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$46,560.73, and it will be paid using
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federal EC funds.
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And you did say this was a renewal?
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Yes, sir.
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So on this quote, it says it's valid until December 9, 2026.
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It is a full year. So-
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That's pretty standard. They may have just said it for the quote's good for-
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That's the length that the quote's good.
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If you look under-
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Terms
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... the subscription starts on 9/11 and it ends on 19, 2027.
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Okay.
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So it's a whole year.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Great.
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Is this the only program that the adaptive-
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This is their primary program because it's aligned to the extended content
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standards. There are some other supplemental tools that we use, but this is their
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primary
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lessons with the extended content standards. Yes.
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And this meets the needs of all our schools for our EC-
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On the extended content standards for our adaptive students. Yes.
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Regardless if they're in a program at the school level or Thurston or Thomas.
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Okay.
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They all use it.
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Thank you.
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Yes, ma'am.
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The board heard Dr. Coley's request for the purchase of Everway, an IEP development
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and progress monitoring tool, at a cost of
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$46,560.73. We'll use federal EC funds.
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Do I have a motion to approve this request?
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I'll make a motion.
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I have a motion, and I have a second.
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Second.
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All in favor?
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Thank you so much. Our adaptive teachers will remain very happy. Thank you.
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Absolutely.
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Oh, my Lord.
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Dr.
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Hilton.
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Good evening, board members and Dr. Slate.
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I want to talk to you just a little bit about hiring, recruitment, and retention.
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Last year, I gave a brief report on that information, so I'm going to cover that
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again tonight.
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So first off, I want to start with hiring, and on page three, you'll see our
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historical hiring data.
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And that goes from 2022 all the way through to 2025-26.
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First part of that talks about classified hires.
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You see we started with 250, and it's been relatively consistent throughout the
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last four years, 276, 275, and 270.
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Now if you look at the second line, you see certified hires, 154,
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157, 153, and 138. And the only reason that is a little bit lower, I think, is
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because our enrollment is going down a little bit, has went down a little bit.
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So in 2022, our enrollment was 17,800 students, and
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now it's 17,246 students. And so certified positions are
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attached to our student enrollment.
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So as student enrollment, if it drops, then you're going to see certified hires
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drop a little bit. Substitute teachers, I do want to point that out.
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We had 155 hires last year, and something good, we started
[2:04:25]
the new substitute onboarding program this past year, this past summer,
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and we've already seen 113 actually go through the program.
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So we're well ahead right now on that.
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From what I understand, they told me, I think part of the reason is they're not
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having to pay the $50 to do it. And so we're seeing a big uptake in subs that want
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to work for us. Total subs that we have as of right now, last year, we had about
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600, and right now we have about 715. So which is good.
[2:04:58]
When you think about the overall district, that means there's about over 3,000
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employees in our district working. Yep.
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If you go to the next one, vacancy September 2023 to 2026.
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And you see, in September '23, we had 33 certified vacancies at this time.
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The next year was 43. Last year we had 11, and then this year we have 26.
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Of those 26,
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six of those are regular ed teaching positions.
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We added three of those actually because of
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numbers with kindergarten and things like that.
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But, overall, if you look at the totals, September '23, we were at
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95. September '24, we had 120 vacancies, 54 and 25,
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and then September '26, we're at 78.
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So we're still much better off than we were with 120 that we were at two years ago.
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And then 95 the year before that.
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So recruitment, I want to talk about recruitment just a little bit.
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Recruitment efforts '24, '25. You see these are some of the universities that we
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attended for recruitment fairs. And you can see that our biggest recruiter is
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actually not a fair, it is student teaching and internships.
[2:06:18]
And I think our folks come in, they meet our principals, they meet some of the
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other teachers and staff, and they say, "This is a good place to work." And so
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that's primarily how we get our people, is through that. We got 15 that year.
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You see some of these, we had zero. Just getting one person through a fair actually
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is a pretty big deal. And I say that because a person coming from the traditional
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pathway is going to
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be more prepared and ready. And so if you get a person going through a traditional
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program, that's a big deal. And so although some of those have one, some of
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them have zero. And, if there is a zero there, we've looked at that.
[2:07:01]
Like North Carolina State, we were competing against Wake County, so we didn't
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continue going to State. Pembroke just didn't have a lot of people either.
[2:07:10]
If you look at '25, '26,
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you see again, our biggest recruiter is student teachers.
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We had 12 that were hired.
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App State did give us another one. But within those student teachers
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are the universities that we have. So like App State provides student teachers.
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UNCG provides student teachers. High Point University provides student teachers.
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So
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when we go to a fair, we're just trying to get extra people if we can.
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It's kind of like the icing on top if we can get one of those people.
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And sometimes we do, and sometimes we don't.
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If you look at the next one, '26, '27, this is where we're going this year.
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In October, App State is the first one. That's a big fair.
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They'll have over 120-some graduates, typically.
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East Carolina, App State again, High Point University, UNC Charlotte, UNC
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Greensboro, and UNC Wilmington.
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And then the number of student teachers, last year we had 34.
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The year before that, we had 25 Thus far we have 25, but that's just thus
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far.
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Right now, as we continue throughout the year, we'll add to that number.
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I would hope that number would be at 35 or 40 before the year is done.
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So that's a good sign that we're getting that many student teachers this early.
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Our student-teacher partnerships, if you look, we have 25 total placements right
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now.
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High Point University,
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we have nine student teachers from High Point University right now, which is the
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most we've ever had,
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which is fantastic. App State usually provides quite a few for us as well.
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UNCG, and you see all of these are working with us this year.
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So 25 total placements this year. It's good.
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I think we're in a good spot right now, and we'll continue to add to those.
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Next, priorities for recruitment 2026, '27.
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So obviously hiring top graduates is one of the biggest for us, and that is getting
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folks from traditional education programs.
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And the reason being because, number one, the turnover rate for those folks is
[2:09:22]
lower. And it's a big deal to get someone that's gone through a traditional program
[2:09:27]
because they've had the internships, they've had the student teaching, they're just
[2:09:30]
going to be much more well prepared to go into the classroom.
[2:09:35]
Overall, we have about 50% of our folks going through traditional programs right
[2:09:39]
now that we hire, and about 50% are alternative licensure.
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And alternative licensure being those folks that are stepping into the classroom,
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they have a degree, but they have not done any internships or student teaching or
[2:09:52]
anything like that. So we average about 50%, but the state average is
[2:09:58]
actually only 27%. So right now, 73% of the teachers hired around the
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state are alternative licensure, which is pretty wild. Things have changed a lot.
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Talking about 10 years.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It's like it wasn't even an option for a while.
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Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.
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It was very strict and rigid if it was.
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Yeah. And so now we're 50/50, so we're actually doing quite well compared to the
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state.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Continue to hire classified staff,
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filling vital roles across the district.
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Early contracts, I'm not sure what this stuff is right there on there, but early
[2:10:38]
contracts, we had four last year. We hired four early contracts last year, and we
[2:10:44]
want to do more this year. And then finally, Internship to Impact.
[2:10:50]
That was a recruiting event we held last year. That was a big deal.
[2:10:54]
We're going to do another one of those, so we're going to do two this year, and
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we're going to invite the universities again.
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Typically, it's a big deal for the student teachers when they get to hear the
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superintendent speak, and so we'll have Dr. Slate speaking.
[2:11:08]
I think it was this summer actually that we had someone we were hiring came in and
[2:11:13]
Dr. Slate was making the rounds around the office, and he just popped in and said
[2:11:17]
hey to them. And they were from another district.
[2:11:20]
They couldn't believe the superintendent had come in and talked to them.
[2:11:23]
So,
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it's a big deal to some of these folks that the superintendent would care and would
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take his time out of his day to speak to them.
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So finally, retention. If you look at our numbers, these are our attrition data.
[2:11:40]
And you can see it goes back '23, '24, and '25.
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And those are DCS averages. So attrition being people that leave us and go either
[2:11:51]
to another district or leave and go to retire, get another profession, whatever.
[2:11:58]
So the DCS attrition data, you see it, the lower the better obviously, because
[2:12:03]
that's 12% of those teachers leaving, 11% and 12%, compared to Piedmont
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Triad and then compared to the LEA North Carolina rate.
[2:12:13]
So
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as you look at the last three years, we're quite a bit better in all three of those
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factors.
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And for '24, '25, this comes from DPI's attrition rates.
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They run this report in March typically of every year, so we'll get the '25, '26
[2:12:32]
data next year.
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So you see where we're at. We were fifth out of all the school districts in the
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Piedmont Triad,
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which I thought was good. And you look as far as larger districts,
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no district that's as large as us was ahead of us.
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And that number obviously goes down, you can see quite a bit, to some of the
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districts are losing quite a few folks.
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But we are 12.8%.
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And then teachers that moved to us from other districts, you see we got a lot of
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folks from Winston-Salem/Forsyth
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last year. We won Thomasville City, Randolph, Guilford, and there were several
[2:13:19]
districts that we got at least one person from.
[2:13:21]
The Winston-Salem/Forsyth, I'll be curious to see with the '25, '26 data how many
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we got from Winston-Salem/Forsyth for next year.
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You think it'll increase or decrease?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher, actually.
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Yeah.
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All right, and then the beginning teacher retention rate, over there to the side,
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you see the DCS state attrition rate.
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That's what the state's concerned with, and that means people that actually got out
[2:13:51]
of the profession-
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Mm-hmm
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... and just left it completely.
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And ours was 11.7%. The state's is 14.7.
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So again, we're much lower than the state average,
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and hopefully we'll continue to do that.
[2:14:05]
We don't have the state average for '25, '26 yet, but we'll get that in March of
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next year.
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All right, and finally,
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leadership culture and support.
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You'll see that the last one's our principal retention,
[2:14:27]
as you see there.
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And principal retention obviously a key aspect of retention strategies.
[2:14:37]
One of the biggest indicators of teacher retention is the principal.
[2:14:40]
They play the biggest factor, and so I think that's a key thing as far as retention
[2:14:46]
strategies is that hiring, developing, and retaining high-performing principals is
[2:14:50]
a key piece of that. Recognition and appreciation of all district staff members,
[2:14:56]
and then the continued robust beginning teacher support program.
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Any questions about our retention data, attrition data?
[2:15:05]
Under staff culture, what is the Emoji event?
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I don't know. I was just looking at that too.
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That's why I didn't-
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I think it's just with your icons.
[2:15:13]
Yeah. I think it's just icons. Yeah.
[2:15:15]
Yeah, they converted your icons into emojis.
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Any questions about attrition or retention?
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Thank you, Dr. Hildreth.
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Good job.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Appreciate it. Absolutely.
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And if I may, real quick on what Dr. Hildreth covered, your student teachers.
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Dr. Hildreth, thank you for that because
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we have affiliation agreements with all these universities, and I review
[2:15:47]
all of them, I believe, to make sure it has the standard language that we
[2:15:53]
need and want in those agreements, and often wondered what our return on investment
[2:15:59]
was, and it seems significant. So I'm grateful for that.
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Seems like the best.
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Oh, yeah.
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Seems like the most efficient, right?
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Yeah. And I did not know that until now, so thank you.
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And I will say to our educators, that's not only in education.
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Hands-on approach is our largest means of employment outside of education as well,
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so it's important that our students have hands-on opportunities to grow into those
[2:16:20]
roles that they're looking to accomplish.
[2:16:22]
Yep.
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Mr. Johnston?
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Hi, Priest.
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Good evening, board, from operations again.
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Our first
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item this evening comes from Walburg Elementary School.
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On behalf of Walburg Elementary School and the PTO, they're requesting to
[2:16:47]
purchase and install a digital sign from Burchett Sign Corporation at a cost of
[2:16:52]
$28,000. This purchase will be paid for by the Walburg PTO.
[2:16:59]
You should have in your packet some detailed information about that sign,
[2:17:05]
specs, and that kind of thing. And we have Principal John Bonventre here if you
[2:17:10]
have any specific questions.
[2:17:16]
Do we have the power and everything needed?
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Yes, it's all there.
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All there.
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There's an illuminate sign already there.
[2:17:21]
Yeah, I knew there was a sign. I didn't know if it'd be enough to run that visual
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board.
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You can't beat that if it's the PTO.
[2:17:31]
Absolutely. No, yeah. Right.
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Any questions on this?
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In that situation, do you get more than one quote?
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Yes. We actually, I think I was at five quotes.
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That was obviously the best price, and the company that communicated well with us
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as well. Like I say, the next best was about 31,000, and they ranged all the way to
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41,000-
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Wow
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... I believe one actually had it at 50,000.
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For a very similar
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product.
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And the Burchette family are also Davidson County Schools alumni.
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Thank you.
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Yep, absolutely.
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Board, you've heard Mr. Johnson's request for Burchette Signs at a cost of
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$28,350
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paid with the PTO to purchase an illuminated new LED
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sign. Do I have a motion to approve this request?
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I'll make a motion.
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I'll second.
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Shabicha, Sherry will second. All in favor?
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Good deal. Thank you for being here tonight.
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Thank you.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Our next item, board, comes from North Davidson High School.
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This is an easement request from Duke Energy for the installation and
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the maintenance of electrical transformers.
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So if you'll just walk through, first of all, you have an easement document,
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and then behind the easement document, you'll have a map of the area
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that we're speaking of. And what you have there, and I'll turn my notebook around
[2:19:15]
so I can read it, you have several items there.
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First of all, you have existing
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transformers, you have existing underground lines, and so the goal
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here is to replace the existing lines with new lines,
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and then to also remove a transformer and then add a transformer.
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So this is a request coming from Duke Energy to make these changes.
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We don't have a timeline on that. What we'll do is we'll get this back to Duke
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Energy, and then we'll work with the school schedule on when's the best time to
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conduct this work. And of course, as you read the easement, the
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goal is that they'll return everything back to normal before the job is completed.
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Any questions on this?
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Just outdated equipment?
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Yes, sir.
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Underground line and equipment.
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Board, you've heard Mr. Johnson's request for an easement at North Davidson High
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School from Duke Energy. Do I have a motion to approve this request?
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I make a motion.
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Do I have a second?
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Second.
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All in favor?
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Good deal. Thank you.
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All right. Thank you, board. Our next item comes from, again, North Davidson Middle
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School. This is the chiller replacement project.
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We request your approval to award
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Superior Mechanical Services to complete the work there at North Davidson Middle
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School. The bid price is $136,575, and that will be
[2:21:02]
paid using capital funds. In your packet, you should have a letter of
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recommendation from CES. This job, like all our jobs,
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we had that as advertised, and then we had a public bid opening.
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And there on the next page, you see the bid tabulation that was created by CES as a
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result of that bid opening. And again, our request
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is to award this to Superior Mechanical Services.
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Any questions for Mr. Johnson on this? The board have heard Mr.
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Johnson's request to
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award-
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Superior.
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Superior Mechanical Services.
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Superior Mechanical Services at a cost of $136,575
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paid using capital funds to replace a chiller at North Davidson Middle School.
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Do I have a motion to approve this request?
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I'll make a motion.
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I'll second.
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All in favor?
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All right. Thank you, board. Our next item comes from Transportation Department
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this evening. We have our Director of Transportation, Brad Sweatman.
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He's going to talk to you a little bit about routing and tier scheduling, so I'll
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turn it over to Mr. Sweatman at this time.
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Good evening, board members and Dr. Slate.
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Thank you all for allowing me here to review Davidson County Schools' bus routes,
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the data that we pass on to DPI, how that data impacts our funding, and a potential
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option that our routing department will begin work on over the next few weeks.
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So to start off with just some general data about our fleet.
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Davidson County Schools currently utilizes 176 route buses.
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We have 158 regular education buses with an additional 18 EC
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buses. We also maintain 27 route buses for Thomasville City Schools and Lexington
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City Schools. As of this past Friday, we have 9,957 students
[2:23:08]
assigned to Davidson County School buses, 9,727 of those on our regular
[2:23:14]
education buses and 230 on our EC buses.
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Currently, this week, we are conducting our TD2 student ridership count.
[2:23:25]
This is an important report that we collect for DPI that plays a tremendous
[2:23:30]
impact on our funding. This is an actual snapshot of our student riders for this
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particular week.
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We also currently utilize nearly 40 buses that run multiple runs.
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So we are kind of trying to take advantage of a tiered system already, but we are
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very limited on the time we have in the afternoon to utilize any more than 40
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buses. And often those buses will arrive a little bit later than dismissal times
[2:23:57]
for our middle school and high school students.
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To give you an overview on how our routing department works, we utilize a
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DPI-supported Transportation Information Management System, this is TIMS, to build
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and maintain bus routing data. TIMS allows DCS route specialists to route buses
[2:24:16]
efficiently and safely as possible.
[2:24:19]
The use of TIMS also gives DCS transportation personnel access to DPI support staff
[2:24:24]
based at UNC Charlotte and NC State.
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These folks are the folks that we call when we have issues.
[2:24:30]
They also can look at our data and help us in many different ways if we have
[2:24:34]
questions with a particular route or issues with the TIMS system.
[2:24:38]
They also give new folks that we hire in the routing department additional training
[2:24:43]
on the TIMS routing software. TDTIMS is the annual DPI report required by all
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districts, and this is also another report that we turn in late fall that goes into
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the model for our funding.
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TIMS will be utilized to create bus routes to support a tiered bell system, and
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this also gives us the potential option to benefit many aspects of our bus
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operations.
[2:25:09]
Just to go over some benefits and considerations that we view with the tiered bell
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schedule. First off, successful tiered bells transportation plans require an
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adequate time span between bell times for the best efficiency.
[2:25:23]
We prefer a 45-minute to one-hour time span because this will allow the majority of
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our fleet to be utilized for both tiered times.
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The benefits, more efficient use of district bus fleet.
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This is typically the idea that you use less buses to transport the same number of
[2:25:43]
students, and in turn, that will positively impact our state funding formula.
[2:25:48]
State funding for transportation is based heavily on efficiency.
[2:25:52]
So the more efficient you are, the more of your eligible expenses that you will
[2:25:56]
receive from DPI.
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A reduction in student ride times at all levels due to more buses being used for
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each bell time. This might sound counterintuitive, but you actually reduce your
[2:26:07]
fleet, but it does give you the opportunity to throw more buses at each tiered
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schedule to help with times for students.
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And then lastly, increased bus driver recruitment and retention.
[2:26:19]
This typically means that more hours are guaranteed to our bus drivers, as well as
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potential eligibility for benefits.
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We are currently dealing with a few locations that are having to
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double route right now. So they are lacking the drivers they need, and they might
[2:26:36]
have drivers out sick that they can't find a replacement for and are pulling from
[2:26:41]
multiple different schools in the area.
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And particularly in our north area with the way our boundaries lie, a lot of those
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elementaries are supporting multiple middle and highs with their sub drivers
[2:26:53]
Some considerations to take into account.
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A tiered schedule will have impacts on family scheduling around the new bell times,
[2:27:01]
whether it be bus stop times or potential childcare.
[2:27:03]
We also have a pre-K through third policy about drop-off, where if they don't have
[2:27:08]
a signed form, we do not drop those students off.
[2:27:12]
Route buses will generate preventive maintenance orders quicker due to higher
[2:27:15]
miles. DPI, all of our buses are in a software that monitors miles,
[2:27:21]
and those miles trigger preventive maintenance orders at certain intervals.
[2:27:26]
So if your buses are running more miles, those preventive maintenance orders will
[2:27:29]
come in quicker. Breakdowns will impact bus runs for the next bell time.
[2:27:34]
Obviously, if you've got a route behind another route, if a bus breaks down, we'll
[2:27:40]
have to-- That time for all those other students will be pushed back until we get a
[2:27:43]
spare bus or that bus can be fixed. And then lastly, our fueling routes may need to
[2:27:47]
be adjusted to accommodate an increase in mileage per day for some buses.
[2:27:51]
So, all right. And now let's talk about funding.
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Funding for transportation is a little complicated.
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It's mostly built around efficiency and eligible expenses.
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Our eligible expenses are our bus parts, our fuel, our driver pay.
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As many of you know, fuel has increased tremendously.
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I believe we had fuel rates of $5.10 to $5.40 a gallon last
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week. So we had two deliveries last week.
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So we're anticipating nearly an $80,000 bill in fuel next week or for this past
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week. DPI utilizes a series of reports the districts complete to determine our
[2:28:31]
eligible expenses, our fleet data, and our student transportation data.
[2:28:35]
These all range from TD1, TD2, TD2R.
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TD stands for Transportation Department, if you're curious.
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But all of these go into the budget simulator and model that DPI uses to generate
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our allotment. Districts with higher efficiency ratings receive a larger portion of
[2:28:53]
the DPI state allotment. Currently, we sit at 95.47% efficient,
[2:28:59]
which is pretty good, but we also have Thomasville City Schools and Lexington City
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Schools in our data. So all of our data is combined, and it generates an efficiency
[2:29:09]
for all three districts that are equal between them for their particular allotment.
[2:29:13]
Thomasville City Schools and Lexington City Schools receive an allotment, but it
[2:29:17]
doesn't count for the fuel or the maintenance of the buses.
[2:29:20]
Theirs are more so for driver pay and other things that account for those drivers.
[2:29:28]
A tiered bus routing would increase this percentage and allow DCS to receive a
[2:29:33]
greater portion of our allotment.
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So just a 3% to 4% would be very beneficial with a multimillion-dollar budget from
[2:29:40]
DPI. So just the 3% to 4% of that allotment is a considerable amount and would pay
[2:29:45]
for quite a few weeks of fuel.
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And then lastly, what are our goals with a tiered bell schedule?
[2:29:54]
An accurate assessment of a DCS tiered bell bus plan will require the building and
[2:29:59]
optimization of routes in the TIMS routing system.
[2:30:02]
So our folks are going to take careful time. They're going to build these routes.
[2:30:05]
They're going to look at them, make sure they're safe, make sure our students-- No
[2:30:09]
changes are made to these routes that would impact student safety.
[2:30:14]
Per conversations with DPI staff and in-house assessments, a greater than 20%
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reduction in our bus fleet is possible.
[2:30:22]
The one area that I would not see this increase truly possible would be our EC
[2:30:27]
fleet. They already travel such great distances and cover so many school
[2:30:32]
boundaries, from one student having to cross potentially maybe Churchland over to
[2:30:38]
Fairgrove or somewhere in the south area up towards East Davidson or even
[2:30:44]
further. So there's a lot of our EC fleet that those 18 buses have such a
[2:30:48]
complicated, overlapping network of bus routes that any kind of modification to
[2:30:53]
them would take a considerable effort, and we don't really want to impact those
[2:30:58]
students' ride times as they already are.
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So I don't see us dropping too many buses for EC because I don't want to impact
[2:31:06]
those students in any way.
[2:31:10]
We could potentially expand on the number of our door side stops.
[2:31:13]
We have multiple roads that we
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know that we're not going to do a crossing stop. Just for instance, 109.
[2:31:22]
We are going to do our best and utmost, everything we can to not make a crossing
[2:31:26]
stop. I don't even think we have a crossing stop.
[2:31:28]
But our route specialists know that that's a road that you're going to make door
[2:31:31]
side, or you're going to go into a neighborhood.
[2:31:33]
So if you have more buses that you can throw to an area, then you can potentially
[2:31:37]
make some of these roads that you might only have one bus going up, you could have
[2:31:40]
maybe one going one direction, one going another, so you can create more door side
[2:31:43]
stops.
[2:31:45]
We hope to reduce the average ride time for most bus riders.
[2:31:48]
Again, we're throwing more buses at each tier, so hopefully those ride times will
[2:31:53]
come down because you're utilizing more buses.
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And this will also potentially help with any crowding issues.
[2:31:59]
We have our 72-capacity buses. That's all of our fleet right now is 72 capacity,
[2:32:05]
and that's elementary. If you throw middle and high on, that capacity drops down to
[2:32:10]
just right around 50, if not a little bit lower.
[2:32:13]
So we've got to be careful on our capacity numbers.
[2:32:15]
And in some areas, that might take up one or two stops, particularly in the High
[2:32:20]
Point area. If you go up there, and we might have a Lepper bus that picks up three
[2:32:25]
stops, and the bus is full already.
[2:32:27]
And then lastly, we want to help reduce the number of buses per mechanic.
[2:32:32]
Currently, we have eight mechanics. We are down mechanics at this time.
[2:32:36]
So anything we can do to reduce the number of buses that they're having to cover
[2:32:40]
would be super beneficial for us. They would take on a number of park status buses
[2:32:45]
if we were to park buses after this, but those buses can be used for spare buses,
[2:32:51]
and eventually they are incorporated into the fleet with self-replacement.
[2:32:55]
So with that, I'd like to thank you for your time and your consideration of this
[2:32:58]
option in the future. And if anyone had any questions, I'd be more than happy to
[2:33:01]
help answer them.
[2:33:03]
I have just one quick question from the previous page on funding from DPI.
[2:33:07]
Yeah.
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Is it a combined efficiency rate of 95.47 with the other two?
[2:33:13]
And if that's the case, I know you differentiated part of that. You broke it out.
[2:33:19]
Is there anything that we can do to help them help us in that efficiency, since it
[2:33:24]
affects funding?
[2:33:25]
Yeah. Everything's combined. This week with the student ridership count, their
[2:33:30]
numbers are combined with ours as well for when they go into the budget formula for
[2:33:34]
DPI. So their efficiency, they actually might be more efficient
[2:33:40]
on if you were just to pull them out with their numbers because they're using less
[2:33:44]
buses in a smaller area. So they have the capacity to run those buses through an
[2:33:49]
area multiple times and pick more students up, whereas we have the difficulties of
[2:33:53]
geography on our side.
[2:33:54]
So they're actually looking better on their numbers?
[2:33:56]
Yes. And I know Thomasville just parked five buses this past year, so their numbers
[2:34:01]
will look significantly more improved than the previous year as well.
[2:34:05]
So they're actually helping our numbers.
[2:34:06]
Absolutely, yes.
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Any other questions?
[2:34:14]
Okay.
[2:34:14]
Well, thank you, and hopefully we'll have you a good plan to look at in the near
[2:34:18]
future.
[2:34:20]
Thank you, Brian.
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Can I ask an operations question?
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Yeah.
[2:34:24]
Sorry. It's going back to the chiller plant. It's not related to buses.
[2:34:29]
I know we've already voted on that.
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But with that being an emergency replacement, I guess I'm just trying to understand
[2:34:35]
what does that timeline look like?
[2:34:37]
Does it go through the same normal process to get quotes and that kind of thing, it
[2:34:42]
being an emergency?
[2:34:44]
No. North Davidson chiller, we had to bid out the chiller itself.
[2:34:50]
Right.
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And then we had to bid out the contractor.
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But I guess the turnaround time is still the same, even though it's considered an
[2:34:58]
emergency project, is what I'm asking.
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So, I mean, we're ready to hit the ground running getting it installed.
[2:35:05]
Absolutely.
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I think what she's saying, is there a differentiator between those that are working
[2:35:09]
that we maybe just need to replace because it ages up-
[2:35:12]
Those
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... and those where we've got a flatbed trailer with a temporary
[2:35:18]
chiller set up in an emergency setting like we have at North Davidson?
[2:35:22]
Is it the same process, or do you have
[2:35:26]
ability to-
[2:35:28]
Yeah, because I didn't
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Accelerate
[2:35:29]
... accelerate that?
[2:35:29]
Okay.
[2:35:30]
Is that what you're asking, Ms. Eernerman?
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Yeah.
[2:35:32]
Yeah, we bought the chiller through a cooperative.
[2:35:35]
Uh-huh.
[2:35:35]
Omni Cooperative.
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We did accelerate-
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We did, yes
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... the actual purchase of a chiller because they were on a state contract.
[2:35:39]
That's right.
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And actually what the law, believe it or not, says if you have a chiller or your
[2:35:45]
system fails,
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even if it's 100 degrees, that does not really constitute an emergency
[2:35:54]
Usually an emergency is associated with an- Mm-hmm ... act of- Natural disaster ...
[2:35:59]
natural disaster. I mean, if a tornado came through- Right ...
[2:36:01]
and destroyed it, that's-
[2:36:02]
But just a unit going down-
[2:36:03]
Again, the compliance side of it
[2:36:06]
... that's not deemed an emergency to circumvent the process
[2:36:07]
The laws would say that's correct.
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But we did find a little way around that with the state-
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Expedited. Okay.
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Thank you.
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I get what you're saying, because that should... Right.
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Right.
[2:36:17]
It's a little different than being proactive and changing things out before they
[2:36:20]
break.
[2:36:20]
Well, again, that's not a declared emergency- Right
[2:36:21]
Yeah
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... but the law says it's not.
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Got you.
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Unfortunately. Thank you.
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Thank you. Dr. Greer.
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Good evening.
[2:36:34]
You want the clicker? Oh, it's down here.
[2:36:35]
Okay. I realize I'm the only thing standing between you and dinner, so I'll keep
[2:36:38]
that in mind as I'm going through my two items tonight.
[2:36:42]
So my first is a data review of our student support services data that we collect.
[2:36:49]
We did this last year, I think, for the first time, and we're just going to go
[2:36:52]
through and look at some specific data points that we've collected from our school
[2:36:57]
counselors, our social workers, and then other student support staff in our
[2:37:02]
schools. So, we're going to begin with our K-5 bullying online reporting
[2:37:07]
form. You can see the last three years' worth of data here, and the color coding
[2:37:12]
might seem a little backwards, but if it's green, that means we had a decrease,
[2:37:16]
which is positive, and if it's red, we had an increase, which would be considered
[2:37:20]
not so positive. So looking at our K-5 reporting form, we only had three for last
[2:37:25]
school year, which is a positive. That is down two from the previous year.
[2:37:30]
Our 6-12 SSARS reports, we did have an increase, but not by a significant
[2:37:35]
amount. We were up to 379 versus 370.
[2:37:39]
That is still a decrease from our 23-24 school year.
[2:37:42]
And then looking at our Gaggle reports, we had about 856, which is a pretty sizable
[2:37:47]
decrease from our over 1,000 from the previous year or so.
[2:37:54]
Just as a reminder, the SSARS reports, that is our Say Something Anonymous
[2:37:58]
Reporting System, where students can go in and report bullying or concerns that
[2:38:02]
they have with peers or sometimes staff in their school buildings.
[2:38:07]
And then the Gaggle reports come directly from our email system and Google
[2:38:11]
platform. That is where specific phrases and tags are flagged and then sent to
[2:38:17]
us to investigate what's being said.
[2:38:22]
The next slide, you will see our PowerSchool/Infinite Campus, because we changed
[2:38:27]
last year to Infinite Campus. Looking at our discipline reports, you'll see the
[2:38:31]
23-24 cumulatives, and then 24-25, and then this past year,
[2:38:36]
25-26. So the first thing that you'll notice, and I'm going to come back to this
[2:38:39]
part, is a significant drop in our total number of reports from 14,000 and
[2:38:45]
then 12,000, and this past year, we had 5,000.
[2:38:49]
So I'm going to talk about that in just a second.
[2:38:51]
But first, you can see the breakdown there of the specific categories.
[2:38:54]
There are lots more categories that are included in these reports, but these are
[2:38:58]
the ones that we discuss at our monthly K-12 meetings because these are the most
[2:39:02]
prevalent behaviors that we're seeing across schools.
[2:39:05]
Specifically looking at our higher numbers, you can see we have fights, some
[2:39:09]
aggressive behavior, inappropriate behavior, disruptive behavior, and then, of
[2:39:14]
course, looking at our vaping down there at the bottom.
[2:39:17]
Again, all of these are in the green because they are all decreased from the
[2:39:22]
previous year, pretty significantly, and so I do want to talk about that.
[2:39:27]
We had a 59.1% decrease, with 7,454 fewer discipline reports
[2:39:33]
this past year than in the previous years.
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But as I've shared with our cabinet and then with our K-12 principals, when I'm out
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visiting schools and when I'm talking with counselors and our social workers, one
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of the biggest hot topics that we talk about is student behavior.
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That comes through my department quite a lot, and so when I look at this
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information, it makes me question, "Why did we have such a huge drop in behavior?"
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I would love to say that it's because of all the wonderful things we're doing to
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prevent behavior and to increase our restorative practices in our schools.
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But I think there's some other factors at play here, and one of those is in talking
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with our principals. I think that we have varied
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data collection methods happening across the district in terms of what's being
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entered into Infinite Campus for a major discipline referral versus a minor
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referral. In speaking with some of our high school principals, they have a
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different category for what is considered a major and then what they say is a
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minor. So in some of our high schools, they input absolutely every single incident
[2:40:37]
that happens at the school. In others, they're inputting the major ones, and then
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they have a separate notebook of all of the minor incidents that they do not feel
[2:40:44]
like qualifies as a major to be put into Infinite Campus.
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So, what that has prompted is that we need some calibration across the district in
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making sure that we are doing it the same at every school, whichever way that's
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going to be. However we categorize a major and a minor, that's not something that
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we have really defined in a while. So we need to come back to that and make sure
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that across the district we are putting in the same type of incidents, so that when
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we look at the data, it's accurate as to what's actually happening across our
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school districts. So that will be happening this year.
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That is on our list to talk about behavior and try to figure out how to make that
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better.
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There is a link there. I'm not sure if you have that in your packet or not.
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If you don't, I'll be sure to get that to you.
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But the link takes you to our feeder pattern data comparisons.
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That's something new that we did this year in terms of looking at specific feeder
[2:41:32]
patterns for each elementary school, and then to the middle school, and then to the
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high school. Is the data that we're seeing calibrated at that level?
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And what we've noticed is sometimes there it's not as well.
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We will look at our elementary schools that may have 500 incidents, and then all of
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those elementary school kids go to middle school, and we have 80 incidents.
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And it's the same kids that are going through those same schools, and so that data,
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again, isn't quite matching up. So that also will come into that calibration that
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we're going to do this school year, looking at all of our data entry.
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Next, you'll see long-term suspensions.
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So, we had a huge drop last year, about almost half, and we maintained that for
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25-26. We had 33 long-term suspensions.
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We did have quite an increase there for middle school, though, so you can see that.
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The next slide is looking at our orange folders, red folders, and then mental
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health hospitalizations. So our orange folders are our threat of violence against
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others. We renamed it this year to better align with our state statutes, which is
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our BTAM, Behavioral Threat Assessment Management.
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So now our orange folder is a BTAM assessment.
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This past year in 25-26, we did 192 of those across the district, and you can see
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the breakdown there for elementary, middle, and high.
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much larger number in elementary school because I think that a lot of our
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elementary schoolers are trying to get away with a lot more, and by middle and high
[2:42:53]
school, they've learned what's appropriate and what's not appropriate.
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Red folders, we did have a decrease this year, and that is our concern for
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self-harm, the threat of self-harm. We had 366 of those across the district.
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You can again see the breakdown for elementary, middle, and high.
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We did unfortunately have an increase in our mental health hospitalizations.
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So we had 129. When I talk about this data with our principals, I'm very careful to
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say, "This is hospitalizations that we are aware of." This means we assisted with
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transition meetings with those students coming back to school.
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I do feel that there are probably additional hospitalizations that never make it to
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our data collection. But from what we are aware of, we had 129 of those this past
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year.
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The next one is kind of a hodgepodge of data.
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So looking at truancy petitions filed, you will also see there a dramatic decrease.
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We had 79 truancy petitions filed as opposed to 187 the year before.
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A couple of factors for that. The court system transitioned to a new online
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reporting system, and so this past year, they limited the amount of truancy
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petitions that we were able to file.
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So, we did still have way more than 79 truancy petitions that we would have liked
[2:44:08]
to have filed, but we were given a limit per month of what we were able to do.
[2:44:12]
So Michelle Henderson, our truancy coordinator, had to really go through and we had
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to prioritize which petitions we were going to file and try to assist those
[2:44:21]
families to get those kids back in school.
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Looking at DSS reports filed, we did have an increase there of 485.
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Those are DSS reports that our school staff filed.
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McKinney-Vento, that's our homeless population, we also had an increase there, 265
[2:44:37]
identified families. Again, those are families that come to us and identify
[2:44:42]
themselves or that we seek out and say, "Hey, is there something going on?
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Can we help you?" I would also venture to say we probably have more than 265
[2:44:49]
families across the district that would identify themselves as homeless, and we are
[2:44:53]
always seeking ways to try to reach out to those families to get them to come and
[2:44:56]
talk to us so that we can help them. Foster care bid meetings, we had a pretty good
[2:45:01]
increase there, 123 of those over the last year.
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Homebound students has been about the same over the last three years, 25.
[2:45:08]
And then TED events, we were down last year with four, so that is a positive there
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for our traumatic events across the district.
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The next slide is our counselor data review.
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Again, we did some calibration with this, and you'll see that here.
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We really looked at, with our parent contacts, we had an increase there because we
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were trying to figure out exactly what does a parent contact mean.
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Is that a parent who is coming in and sitting down with us, or is that a phone
[2:45:35]
call, or is that an email? That goes with each of these categories.
[2:45:39]
You'll see the consultation with other staff members, a huge drop from 17,000 to
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3,000. That does not mean our counselors are doing less work.
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That means that we had some conversations about what does consultation with a staff
[2:45:50]
member look like, and we were able to better define that, so that we were able to
[2:45:54]
really track exactly what we're doing in those moments.
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So that 3,000 is a better indicator of how many conversations we're having as
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opposed to every single stop in the hallway and say, "How's it going?" I think that
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first year we were tallying all of that, as we're trying to get into the data
[2:46:08]
collection for the state. School-based counseling referrals, we had 410 of those
[2:46:13]
this past year, and then meetings attended there, you'll see that.
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Also, a link here for SISS data. That is a new requirement from the state.
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That's Specialized Instructional Support Personnel.
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That is data that we collect from our social workers, from our counselors, and from
[2:46:27]
our school nurses. That is all about how we are helping our families.
[2:46:31]
What are we providing for them? Are we providing food?
[2:46:33]
Are we providing clothing, resource assistance, transportation, all kinds of
[2:46:38]
categories there. So again, if you don't have that, since it's linked there, I
[2:46:40]
should have included that in the packet.
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I'll be happy to get that to you so you can review that.
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So this leads us to some goals for '26, '27.
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We want to look at an updated student code of conduct.
[2:46:52]
That will bring in that calibration piece, being very clear on paper, how are we
[2:46:56]
looking at behavior across our district and categorizing that so that our data
[2:47:00]
collection, again, is valid.
[2:47:03]
We want to continue discussion of our behavior supports and restorative practices.
[2:47:07]
We are really still trying to shift from not just giving consequences, but sitting
[2:47:11]
down and teaching correct behaviors for our students K-12.
[2:47:15]
And then, of course, looking at advocacy for additional student services staff
[2:47:19]
funding. You all, I believe we've shared, but I'll just go ahead and say it out
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there again, we are on a grant right now with our school social workers.
[2:47:27]
It's a five-year grant, and right now we're in year four, so next year will be our
[2:47:32]
final year with that grant, and if we are not able to secure additional funding, we
[2:47:36]
will lose some positions there for our social workers, and that's not something
[2:47:39]
that we want. So we're going to continue to advocate for those additional positions
[2:47:43]
so we can keep the staff we have and hopefully get more staff.
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Because as you can see from these numbers, we have 16 social workers supporting our
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35 schools. They each serve two to three schools.
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And I have 57 counselors supporting our 35 schools, which sounds like a lot, but
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when you've got a school of 1,000 and two to three counselors there, it's not
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really that much. So any questions about any of this data?
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I have two questions.
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Yes, sir.
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One is,
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it only lit as green, so that's good, first of all.
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The K-5 bullying online reporting.
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Yes.
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There was only three.
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Yes.
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Three out of all the elementary schools, because I remember three pretty much in
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email.
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And what you're saying is that we've had at least three emails personally to us as
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a board-
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Yeah
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... maybe more-
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Yes, right
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... over the year.
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So far this year.
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Right.
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Right, yeah.
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Maybe not quite this year yet-
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No
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... as of August, but last year for sure, more than three or four emails.
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Yes.
[2:48:38]
So how is that-- Yeah, I think that's what you're saying, if that doesn't
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correlate-
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Yeah
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... it's really only three.
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I think that speaks a little bit to the conversation that you all had with the
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state earlier. Yes. Or with the board-
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Did they actually report it?
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Right.
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Or did they just email you?
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Right. I think that they're-
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The proper channel
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... not necessarily following-- Right.
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Okay.
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That we have this out there for them to utilize, and when we have that, we take
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that directly to the school and give that information to the principal, ask them to
[2:49:04]
investigate. We follow back up with them.
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That would be the proper channel for how to report bullying, but nowadays a lot of
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our reports come directly from an upset parent who may go directly to you, to the
[2:49:15]
board-
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Right
[2:49:16]
... or to us, cabinet, or directly to the principal without going through the
[2:49:20]
bullying reporting form. The bullying reporting form does have the opportunity to
[2:49:24]
be anonymous. So I think sometimes people think, "I'm only going to use that if I
[2:49:27]
don't want them to know who I am." And a lot of times they have no problem telling
[2:49:31]
us who they are.
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They want you to know.
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They want us to know, which is fine.
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So I think a lot of times we have a lot more bullying incidents, I believe, than
[2:49:38]
what is reported necessarily on our form.
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In the system. Okay. Second question.
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I noticed, and it's another green one, so good job.
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Excessive tardiness dropped just exponentially. Are we doing something specific?
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And you broke out some of the other changes and why they need to represent a
[2:49:58]
smaller number, but what about that one? Are we doing something that great?
[2:50:01]
I wish I could say yes. I don't believe so.
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I think that we have taken the opportunity over the last three years to really look
[2:50:08]
more at, are we getting students into class?
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Not necessarily are they one minute or two minutes late, and we're not necessarily
[2:50:15]
putting in every single incident of they are tardy.
[2:50:18]
And more so, were they tardy as in missed half the class and then they came in.
[2:50:22]
And try to be absent versus-
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Correct
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... present.
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Correct, yes.
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And my final question, I don't mean to take up all the time.
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Right.
[2:50:28]
I'm sure you guys got questions too, but I was confused-
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Okay
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... on truancy petitions filed that are almost 100 less. It's in the green again.
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Yes.
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It was because we're limited by the
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county system?
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Yes.
[2:50:44]
Can you re-explain that?
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So it's something that we're hopeful will change as the county gets more used to
[2:50:52]
this system. But it was more of, how many cases can they process in the new system
[2:50:57]
versus what our typical docket is.
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I've been to truancy court with Michelle a couple of times just to see how it
[2:51:03]
works. And prior to this year, we would have a docket of you could have 300 to 350
[2:51:09]
cases that are coming in that are reviewed by the district attorney and by our
[2:51:13]
Judge Covington. And so now we are on a given day with their new computer
[2:51:19]
system, they may say, "We can have 100 on the docket today, so which 100 are we
[2:51:23]
going to take?" And so it has just limited what we're able to-
[2:51:28]
Limited court system
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... take.
[2:51:29]
So-
[2:51:29]
Correct
[2:51:30]
... so starting maybe two to three years ago, the
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state as a whole went to what I call the portal. It's called eCourts.
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Mm-hmm.
[2:51:41]
So now all the filings, correct, are online.
[2:51:44]
Yes.
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I cannot walk down to the courthouse and file a document anymore. Okay.
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Or if we're outside of truancy, you're talking about-
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Any
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... anything.
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Anything.
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Including truancy.
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A motion-
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File
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... a complaint, whatever. And they've rolled that out across the state over about
[2:52:00]
a two-year to three-year process.
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Mm-hmm.
[2:52:03]
We went live on that, I believe in Davidson County, in October of
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2025, if my memory serves me correctly.
[2:52:12]
Yes.
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And in my opinion now, I'm a dinosaur, and I don't like technology, but I'm not a
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big fan of the portal.
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It slows access-
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I can imagine
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... to the courts, in my opinion.
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But that's the first I've heard of that, but it does not surprise me.
[2:52:31]
Regardless of what we feel of truancy, it's a law, and so
[2:52:37]
violating that law is a criminal act or maybe not so harsh a term because it
[2:52:43]
is truancy. However, okay, 1,000 kids are truant, but we can't do anything
[2:52:49]
about 900 of them because you have a limit.
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You got a choke point of how many they can process.
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So we need to-
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Right
[2:52:57]
... I'm sure something has been done at a higher level than just DCS-
[2:53:04]
Right
[2:53:04]
... with the court system.
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And it truly makes the job of our social workers that much more important because
[2:53:08]
they're still having mediation and meeting with families and doing all that we can
[2:53:11]
on our side of things without
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having the formality of court.
[2:53:18]
I just found that, I've circled that one-
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Yeah
[2:53:20]
... as soon as you said it because it was confusing that-
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Yeah
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... we're limited in prosecuting a criminal or whatever.
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Yeah.
[2:53:26]
So, okay.
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Other questions?
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How do you, I guess, anticipate the data that looks so much better over the
[2:53:35]
previous years? I imagine it will impact funding but not for the better.
[2:53:41]
So, I know you talk about advocating for additional funding, but it's going to be
[2:53:45]
hard to do that-
[2:53:46]
Right
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... when our numbers in most situations look good.
[2:53:50]
Right. I think as far as advocating for positions,
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I could say that the positions that we have are working because we are seeing some
[2:53:59]
positive gains. But as far as the calibration piece, I think our data will come
[2:54:04]
back up this year when we say, "Okay, we need to make sure we're putting everything
[2:54:07]
in."
[2:54:09]
But As far as funding goes, what we currently have
[2:54:14]
behavior-wise is not necessarily tied to funding that I think will be impacted with
[2:54:18]
our data, if that makes sense. Okay. Yes. Yeah.
[2:54:20]
It's more so looking for positions, not necessarily programs.
[2:54:24]
Okay. We want people. Right. Yeah.
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That's it.
[2:54:33]
Okay. And my last item is just looking at our strategic plan.
[2:54:37]
I just wanted to make sure that we are all aware, which has been discussed, that we
[2:54:42]
are in our final year of our current DCS strategic plan.
[2:54:46]
And throughout this year, we have a timeline for what it's going to look like to
[2:54:50]
wrap up and conclude our current plan, and then to start planning and get a new
[2:54:56]
plan in place by the end of this school year, so that we are ready to launch some
[2:55:00]
of our goals from that plan next school year.
[2:55:02]
So our current plan, we have four goals.
[2:55:05]
Our first meeting is next week with our first committee to start looking at how
[2:55:08]
have we done on those goals over the last four years. What have we accomplished?
[2:55:13]
It's one of those things where we love to go through and check and say, "We did
[2:55:16]
great. We met all of our goals." But that's not going to be necessarily beneficial
[2:55:19]
for us to really just say that and not know what our data looks like.
[2:55:21]
So we'll be digging in to really see what we have accomplished and how we've met
[2:55:27]
those goals this year. And then you can see the timeline there, just on what you
[2:55:31]
have. September, October, we will start reflecting and assessing those goals.
[2:55:35]
November, December, we will look at closing out the current plan, making sure that
[2:55:39]
we have data to support our indicators that we have met and/or not met.
[2:55:44]
And then in January, we'll start the new plan development with either a new team
[2:55:49]
than this team that we've started next week or maybe some of the same.
[2:55:52]
But our teams will be made up of principals, assistant principals.
[2:55:55]
We'll have counselors, social workers. We'll have curriculum folks.
[2:55:58]
We'll have directors. We'll have instructional coaches, people from all across the
[2:56:02]
district, as well as community members, and potentially some of you as well.
[2:56:06]
I'll be asking to sit on our strategic plan committee in looking at what do we want
[2:56:11]
for the next four years for Davidson County Schools.
[2:56:14]
Because our next plan will run until 2031, which is crazy to even say out loud.
[2:56:19]
But we've got to be thinking ahead and thinking what do we want to see in the next
[2:56:21]
four years for our school system. And we'll be working on that February, March,
[2:56:26]
April, finalizing some of those goals and indicators in May and June.
[2:56:30]
And then, of course, over the summer, getting ready to roll it out for next school
[2:56:33]
year in August of 2027. So I just wanted you to have that timeline.
[2:56:37]
I'll be giving you an update here and there throughout the year.
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And next year will be a big year for rolling out our new goals.
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So any questions about that timeline?
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Thank you, Dr. Greer. Appreciate it.
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At this time, to prevent disclosure of information that is confidential or
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privileged under General Statute 143-318.11A1, to consult
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with the board attorney and protect attorney-client privilege under General Statute
[2:57:03]
143-318.11A3, and to consider the qualifications, competence, performance,
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conditions of employment of a public officer or employee, or prospective public
[2:57:12]
officer or employee under General Statute 143-318.11A6.
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Do I have a motion to go into closed?
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Make that motion.
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Do I have a second?
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Second.
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All in favor? We're now in closed.