[0:03] Okay. At this time, I'm also going to have Steve and Keith. They are alternatives. No, you're abstain right now. Steve is, you're going to be voting member.

[0:16] There is no old business at this time. So we shall move to the new business, which is a conception review. Ryan, this day in Fisher Road, new driveway permit.

[0:32] Here is. All right.

[0:40] What would you like to see?

[0:43] Well, why don't you come on up and explain your project and let us know kind of what you need and what you're looking for?

[0:53] Yeah.

[0:55] I don't know, just some rough drawings that I sketched up of roughly what the house would be.

[1:01] There's kind of an exterior view.

[1:04] I changed the house layout, this is a more accurate plan for what the house would be.

[1:12] I just gave it an idea of a footprint.

[1:18] It's kind of, these are two, like an aerial photo of my rough lot where my driveway would come

[1:25] up through.

[1:26] There's that landing.

[1:28] But the logs have used last summer.

[1:30] I was going to come right up along the right side.

[1:32] There's an existing long road that continues right up to the woods.

[1:35] and right up there on the hillside would be roughly where the house would go.

[1:39] Where's kind of a...

[1:41] Where on the shores is right at the bottom of the hill, right after the power lines on the right?

[1:46] It's the first log on the right after the mailbox.

[1:49] It's the first log on the right.

[1:51] It's the mailbox.

[1:53] Okay.

[1:53] The mailbox is in there, new place.

[1:56] Right.

[1:56] It's also left at the mailbox, it's in there.

[1:58] Maybe you can pass it.

[2:01] On the right.

[2:24] on the right as you go up there so you know you're here for concepts for you

[2:31] So everything that we discussed right now is non-binding.

[2:36] You're kind of here to just ask the board what you need to do going forward

[2:41] and anything that we say might change.

[2:44] But this is to help you kind of through the process.

[2:46] Exactly.

[2:47] And I think it started off as a big understanding

[2:51] where I didn't realize that when I got my driveway term

[2:53] if I didn't get any permission to go in and just

[2:55] I was going to remove the trees,

[2:57] I had a cheap wood chip coming in as a chip on my brush on site and do that and I would

[3:02] come up with my wood chips to a large petrol on the sides of the driveway and whatnot.

[3:07] And so I had gotten this building permit, the driveway permit on June 17th, I applied for

[3:14] it like three days after I purchased the land on June 4th and then when I spoke with, I

[3:19] spoke with the road agent, I had spoke with Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich,

[3:23] Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich,

[3:27] design. And none of them had brought it up to my attention that I had to come to the

[3:31] planning board. And so I truly, I truly didn't know it was in every other town. This

[3:37] isn't the way I heard about it. And I'm going to want to know that. Well, that could do

[3:42] you, but yeah, so he, he kind of was, he was in the, he's trying to do the right thing.

[3:47] Yeah, to quit with every trying to, he was subsequently approached me in a wrong way. But I, I mean,

[3:55] I'm trying to be as compliant as I could.

[3:58] I mean, he had come up and spoke with me and said,

[3:59] hey, you're in the wrong.

[4:00] And I said, could you please explain to me why?

[4:03] And he's like, you should know better.

[4:04] And I said, I honestly don't know why.

[4:07] I mean, I'm trying to be both friends, but it was gone

[4:09] about a couple of ways from my place.

[4:11] And while we're told me that, I'm an effinitiate.

[4:12] And I should know better.

[4:14] OK.

[4:14] And at that point, I kind of just told him that.

[4:17] So how do you do that?

[4:19] Well, you're here.

[4:20] We're going to help you.

[4:22] I'm not trying to like that's where then Richard came by and he was very nice

[4:27] And I asked him I said could you please explain to me what I'm doing wrong because I said I'm 23 years old

[4:31] I'm building this on my own. I just bought the property like I've never done this before

[4:35] I truly don't understand what's not wrong

[4:37] I said I'm not trying to fight anybody. Could you just you like explain it to me and he said because you're in the watershed

[4:42] You need to go to the planet to approve everything first and I said okay. I said I truly didn't know so I called them following

[4:49] whatever. That would be a Monday. I called her on Monday. The next day, they were open

[4:53] because this was for the July weekend. And I said, yeah, I got my building permit. I

[4:57] earned my driveway permit. I said, I picked it up. I dropped it off. I said, nobody had

[5:00] dropped this up to my attention. And she said, oh, I see the problem now. This is what you

[5:03] mean. And she goes to a sticky note on my desk that says, you got to go to the planning

[5:07] board. And so I'm not trying to point fingers, but don't you think I should have known

[5:11] about sticky note? I'm sorry. Like, I went in there. I mean, I rented a machine for three

[5:18] days and I took the loss on that. I'm not trying to throw up a fight. There are movies

[5:24] based on that. Yeah. I stopped. I've been on the property a couple of times to show my

[5:30] grandmother who lives in Florida what it's like and things like that. My sister who lives

[5:33] out of state. But other than that, I haven't stopped work. I haven't done anything there.

[5:39] But I guess what do you guys need to say? Do you need an engineered set of plans for the driveway

[5:43] way before I go in and finish cleaning stuff up.

[5:47] Doesn't look like it.

[5:48] I mean, you are in the watershed protection district.

[5:51] That's why I'm here.

[5:52] And in my mind, there's two ordinances

[5:55] that he would have to abide by, which

[5:57] should have given you kind of let you know what you want.

[6:01] You need to kind of read and go through.

[6:03] But we both, we all kind of wrote the ordinances,

[6:07] so we know the rule.

[6:09] And so I think the reason why you have

[6:13] to come to review before the planning board is because if you are in any part of the watershed

[6:18] whatever construction you do, we have to make sure that it doesn't impact the lake in any way.

[6:25] So what we're really concerned about is any type of disturbances that are done during the construction,

[6:31] how you're going to take care of any runoff, where you are in relation to the lake, how far away

[6:37] from the lake you are that would be very I don't know how big the site is you know the size of the

[6:44] lot um I think that's basically it's 20 seconds and I recall the line it's 26 it's all a little

[6:53] screen that runs through the so there's a lot it comes down and if you look at the driveway

[7:00] so the driveway that I was supposed like proposing to use was what the longer set used and I guess

[7:07] to my knowledge, the town used to all grab a lot of theirs when I was told by a couple

[7:10] of people. There is one stream on the right side and one stream on the left side, both

[7:16] very close. But after that I get further away from them and the closest I get would be

[7:21] up by this house. I'm probably, I would say, I can't remember. I think it was almost 300

[7:29] feet away from that river. I mean, there's some wet spots down below here but I'm well

[7:34] over 100 feet away from those the entire driveways far away from those it's

[7:38] not changing the other two year driveways from Fisher Road how far

[7:42] ways that from either war course the one on the right side is very close that

[7:48] isn't about 20 feet is that the Biscuita Covert? No it's one okay that is it's it

[7:53] hasn't had water and it hasn't had water and it's since April okay it's the last

[7:57] one that the town had ran there under drain into okay when they just already did

[8:01] Well, the big one here is the Scatapag River.

[8:03] And I understand that.

[8:06] And that's where I can go with it.

[8:08] Okay.

[8:09] And that's where my intentions was, if I get the trees down, I'm not trying to be cheap about it.

[8:14] But I'm trying to say as much as I can, especially when we're doing it ourselves.

[8:17] So it might get the trees removed.

[8:19] And then I was going to take all the brush, chip all the brush.

[8:22] That comes up with wood chips to be able to do a biobarm up the sides of the driveway.

[8:26] Because it's faster, more efficient, more comfortable.

[8:27] So are you going to do a new wetland crossings on the driveway?

[8:30] not only when I had spoke with the road agent he discussed that even a

[8:35] driveway caller wouldn't make sense since there's two rivers on both sides that

[8:38] cross the road you wouldn't want to put a driveway caller in and then a lot of

[8:42] water to go now in between the two streams which essentially the way the

[8:46] driveway is now but close to the river is if it's in there's nothing that has to

[8:50] really be done there and you restricted when you say the your proximity to each

[8:57] were very close on one and that's because just the road funder just such that

[9:02] best life I've got almost 1600 feet of road funder to do but this is just

[9:06] it's an existing driveway almost put in the longest one eight.

[9:11] Luggers get different, they get different when they logged it last year they

[9:14] opened it all up and so it's already opened it's already.

[9:17] Luggers get to do different things because they're temperate and so I didn't I

[9:21] If you went on, if you had 16 on, this is just a conceptual discussion.

[9:26] So if you had 1600 feet of road funnage and you chose to go at different places

[9:30] to get to your proposed house site, you probably have to cross one of those.

[9:34] I would.

[9:35] I might have to cross it multiple times because it's exact.

[9:39] I mean, it's very solid.

[9:40] The driveway that you chose is the path of least resistance.

[9:43] The path of least resistance is the least amount of dirt,

[9:45] the least amount of alteration of terrain.

[9:47] It's essentially just stripping of loam and put some gravel in and I would propose of soil the uphill side of the driveway to controls water to not go

[9:59] Right down in that way it kind of we just

[10:01] I mean if you guys want us to see a driveway culvert halfway to drive ways about

[10:10] So that's some of the water still gets to the side or you're just doing a whole thing a slip of the drain and with the water floor

[10:17] What's he doing naturally? I mean what's he doing? Right now it honestly it just

[10:20] puddles because the logger's had gone through that that was their main

[10:23] access and they logged the back, the whole section of her project.

[10:27] Two, that's a lot number. Two 23. All right, I mean two 222 sorry, log 3.

[10:33] So is this big, is this big kind of one? Yeah, it's a new track. Okay. So they had logged

[10:38] the last summer. I think Hartwood did it. They had logged all of the previous

[10:43] on his property and they used my land that I own now is their access and their

[10:47] waterlanding so they had a road that went straight through directly across this

[10:50] river and then right up into the back of the property when they watered

[10:53] so it's now it's kind of worn out and it's like ruts and it's got just

[10:58] it burns on both sides the water now just kind of huddles up but it's all

[11:02] gravel it just drains right into the ground for the most part yeah so he's

[11:07] trying right now how much of it how much approval do you look at to get now is it

[11:12] just to put your driveway in and you might go beyond that and get approval from the building site and all the

[11:18] I mean well much of you are looking to be able to do now and talking to us to make a good idea.

[11:23] Yeah so my timeline I kind of put for myself was about three years is what I figured so I was

[11:28] hoping that within this fall and summer and whatnot I would maybe go and get the trees down start

[11:32] getting some of the driveway cleaned up get it drivable get some access in there and whatnot and

[11:37] then next summer maybe go as far as like going and deciding where my house is going to be get my full

[11:41] set of house plans that I decide I'm going to do my full site plan my set pick design my well my everything and then the fall of summer afterwards

[11:48] It's going to be my full building permits my everything and that would be construction period

[11:53] But I was just hoping for the summer to be able to

[11:55] Is the interest here your drive way is it pretty obvious?

[11:59] Oh, you can't say it's a good opportunity to drive by it.

[12:03] Yeah, maybe see everyone for the opportunity.

[12:04] Yeah, but the issue, I think that I would call you

[12:09] help to put them on.

[12:11] Were you moving some stumps around?

[12:13] So there's three stumps.

[12:15] So actually there's five.

[12:17] There's two stumps that were on the right side

[12:19] of the driveway about 150 feet off the road

[12:22] that the logs had pulled that were sitting there.

[12:23] I picked those up, moved them to the tree line.

[12:26] And then there's three stumps that were in the middle

[12:27] of the log landing that I pulled out.

[12:30] And I didn't go in far, they've gone 20 feet.

[12:32] I pulled them out because I was going to take them,

[12:33] put them with the rest of them on the tree line just so I didn't have something in the middle

[12:37] of the yard and I got them that far. I was up there for two hours until they shut me down.

[12:41] So I pulled those out, I picked up some sticks and slashed them and I mean I didn't get

[12:47] much done.

[12:47] Let's see if we can explain a little bit about why, but what happened there would be happened.

[12:53] So as the chair explained to you, there's two warden twos, there's a throw from protection

[12:59] act.

[12:59] And that's basically protecting the lake in certain ways.

[13:04] And then everything that's in the watershed, all the area that dumps water into the lake is also covered.

[13:12] And the goal of the watershed ordinance is to make certain that when you're all the terrain, any of the terrain within the watershed to do what you want to do, you do it in a way that minimizes or eliminates any possibility of increasing

[13:29] what they call non-point-source pollution, flow of sediment, flow of stuff into the lake.

[13:36] So that means that before you can begin to disturb the terrain, which is pretty reasonable

[13:42] for both of those maps, you really have to come up to the top, but that's what we make

[13:46] sure that what you're playing on doing would need to criteria that the zoning ordinances

[13:50] was get that talent adopted and they were supposed to work for us, and that was what

[13:57] that story was about.

[13:59] Yeah, and so Bob had, when he approached me, he told me, he said, you're pulling stumps

[14:03] out and you're burying them in the river, and then I was like, no, I'm not, I'm not burying

[14:07] stumps in the river.

[14:08] I said, I pulled three stumps.

[14:10] You can see them right there.

[14:10] The other two stumps were, where they were out of the ground, they were just sitting there.

[14:14] I picked them up and I moved them.

[14:15] They were.

[14:16] The timer moved.

[14:19] I just want to make sure I don't make sure that story doesn't get pushed because I told him I said I'm not and he's a

[14:24] He could have been even if yeah, even if you weren't you would have taken a matter around and moving on my feet putting back down on the ground

[14:39] Not this game for like second. Yeah, I didn't I didn't know and when I before I purchased the property

[14:45] I spoke with the town and I spoke with the previous owners night asking what is this watershed

[14:50] And I've never ever heard of it before and never dealt with it in any other towns

[14:53] What's it consists of and they said your setbacks are more so good? Okay, so I setbacks on how 75 for dry

[15:13] All right. All right. All right. All right.

[15:21] certain that you've done it, that whatever water is going to be heading down that way is

[15:26] controlled properly.

[15:27] You want to make certain you don't need any wet ones, when actually you don't get

[15:31] too close to any of the streams that are protected by the ordinance and if you're able to do that

[15:36] you should be able to go ahead and, that far and then as far as the clearing of the sites

[15:40] concerned, we would have to share a talk about picking down trees and things like that,

[15:45] outside my gateway.

[15:47] And there's about, let's see, there's 25, I have to count on that, I put a mark on every tree with a little dot of paint, so I can count along, I want to say there's about 25, I started taking down some trees because I didn't know, they're not big, they're far away from wetlands, they're neighbors from 8 to 10 inches.

[16:03] I was just all still there.

[16:05] The stumps are all there.

[16:06] I mean, you have to look and see which ones are old and which ones are new from the loggers, but...

[16:11] So it sounds like you're looking what you're going to be doing in phases, right?

[16:16] So you would have to, I think this would be a minor CUP, right?

[16:20] Just for the driveway and you would do it in two steps.

[16:23] I think that's the easiest thing for you to do.

[16:25] So you would fill out a conditionally used permit application and follow that through.

[16:32] There's very clear instructions that tell you to be able to get back to you.

[16:35] and you will describe now what you're going to do the improvements to the

[16:42] drive like how you're going to mitigate any runoff you talked about the

[16:46] berms that's very good the length the width and set back to the water all

[16:56] practice all about storm water. I can reel along I gotta take your wheel on it and get

[17:01] because there's still some previous flags that are up there from the

[17:04] that all the wetlands and the weather flagged out and whatnot, so I can, I can wheel off of that.

[17:11] And what you guys do, and a erosion control inspection before any work and everything like that.

[17:19] And sometimes we do, sometimes we do.

[17:21] I mean, we all kind of know where it is.

[17:23] We can, we all drive by it.

[17:25] We can all drive by it and take a peek and...

[17:27] If you have a map that shows us some tofu on it, then you look at that and see where the bar is going.

[17:32] And that was my other question.

[17:34] I mean, I was trying to, I'm trying to pay the surveyors

[17:37] once, so I was trying to get the site cleared.

[17:39] I know this is my house location.

[17:41] Pay them to come in and fulfill it.

[17:42] And then, I'm going to do the subject design

[17:44] and everything like that at the same time.

[17:46] Instead of paying them to come in now,

[17:47] fulfill the site to say, this is what great is.

[17:50] This is what I'm changing.

[17:51] Do you have a cigarette?

[17:53] I do have a cigarette.

[17:54] So most of the areas are pretty savvy

[17:55] about what to ask for with waivers.

[17:58] So they will try to get as many waivers as possible, which will save you money in the end.

[18:05] And if we need information, you know, the waivers are glad that you have to feel safe.

[18:10] Most of ours will sit you on the road track.

[18:13] Especially people who have presented the daring.

[18:15] I think the property is not...

[18:18] Is it within the actual property?

[18:20] Is it within the actual property?

[18:23] It's not in the actual property.

[18:25] It's only the water trade.

[18:27] You're not within a hundred, two hundred and fifty feet of the age of the legs.

[18:32] No, I can't even.

[18:33] I can't see it.

[18:35] It's almost like a one size difference.

[18:37] It's almost like a one size difference.

[18:38] You're really getting to the fringe of it.

[18:41] It's in the funnel.

[18:43] It's in the funnel.

[18:44] The river runs through the property.

[18:46] It is a concern.

[18:47] How do you feel about what's happening now?

[18:50] You're feeling better about the process?

[18:52] Yes, I would much rather speak with you guys and the people before me.

[18:57] You're sticking those in.

[18:58] Yeah.

[19:00] I'm not trying to just be a young kid that comes in and says, oh, it wasn't me.

[19:04] You can fault me.

[19:05] We want to see if you want us to do.

[19:07] We want us to understand that.

[19:09] It's the summary of it.

[19:11] I would think if you could get the surveyor and their engineers into it all once.

[19:15] If you had an idea, we wanted to save time on two steps in money.

[19:21] Yeah, my biggest thing was I was intending on building the driveway as long as I could afford

[19:30] and building houses as big as I could afford comfortably, not running myself drive.

[19:34] You know, I don't know what this is, this is what I dream of, this is my dream location, this is everything.

[19:39] But I mean, if it turned to it, maybe the driveway would fall a little bit shorter and end up down over here

[19:45] instead of being you know up on the hill and maybe the house would end up being

[19:49] smaller and it wouldn't take up as much space and I don't exactly know yet.

[19:56] Well I did it. It took me 25 years and I beat that. I'm not going to rush it.

[20:06] You guys have done before retirement, yeah, it's like I hope I made it the same.

[20:16] So does he need the driveway permit, just to access this, right, I mean, we don't want

[20:23] to hinder him being he will access this property, so I mean, if it's an existing road that's

[20:27] a dance of a pathway, I mean, long needs to be stripped off.

[20:31] If you start to improve it, then you'll need some kind of proof.

[20:34] You'll leave it as is and use it as is.

[20:37] Sure, true.

[20:37] Many of you start doing one development.

[20:39] Okay, you need a permit.

[20:40] Yeah, okay.

[20:41] So if I do my tree removal, I'll work on doing that permit.

[20:46] The CUP, if I do my tree removal, I get my wood chips

[20:50] and everything like that.

[20:50] I've got 400 feet of sill logs that are up there now.

[20:53] I was just, I wasn't going to do those all the way down

[20:55] the sides of the driveway.

[20:56] I did those up on the lower half of the house here.

[20:59] just so anything from the disturbance of the house would get cocked, but I didn't want to go and do those down the sides of the driveway, especially where it was already burned, now it wasn't.

[21:07] I suggestion if I don't know how it's going to look a little bit bad in mind, but to the extent you would move trees and leave the stumps in the soil,

[21:17] don't disturb the soil, you're in a much better ground because that basically leaves

[21:25] the terrain to be able to continue to perform really good things.

[21:28] Maybe you stop pulling the stumps out, then you're in the watershed area where you're

[21:33] like disturbing terrain and where questions can come up where you can do well.

[21:39] Can you grind them down?

[21:41] Try the equivalent.

[21:42] We can talk about that.

[21:43] People have done it.

[21:44] Sure.

[21:44] I've seen it done, takes forever, after horrible views.

[21:49] I mean, obviously, I've got to remove the stumps at some point where the house is

[21:52] done.

[21:52] And you drive way along.

[21:53] I mean, there is, I would say probably around 30 stumps in the property that are uprooted,

[22:01] just sitting off to the sides from the longers.

[22:03] Sure.

[22:03] And I mean, there's piles of stuff where they cross the river and they wind with their

[22:07] escalators like the river.

[22:08] Take pictures.

[22:09] I don't.

[22:10] Document.

[22:11] It is.

[22:12] It is a mess right now, it's beyond a mess.

[22:14] It drives me crazy, but...

[22:16] It's very hard.

[22:17] I heard notorious for making natural.

[22:21] Yeah.

[22:22] I mean, the tree cut, I was impressed by that.

[22:25] The trees that they left, and the trees that they took,

[22:27] and I mean, that they made the property thinned out nice,

[22:29] but as far as climbing us, it's...

[22:33] How long ago was that cut?

[22:34] I want to say August of last year.

[22:36] Oh boy, we're in really similar, yeah?

[22:38] Yeah, yeah, okay.

[22:39] Okay, I'm a fan of Timber Management, big fan and foresters, big fan foresters, too.

[22:48] I'm marking the trees.

[22:50] Well, there you go, take photographs, if you change it, you're going to need a permit.

[22:54] If not, this is your goal.

[22:56] I'll make sure that permits time before any deaths disturb any self-support or anything

[22:59] like that.

[22:59] Yeah, I'll come up with my erosion patrol first.

[23:02] They gave you this?

[23:03] Yeah.

[23:04] Yeah.

[23:07] And what was this at present? What was this permit to boom?

[23:10] June 17th of this year. Yeah. Yeah. I've purchased the target.

[23:14] We're going through some term while administratively. Maybe. So I think you fell through the

[23:19] trash line. I'm sorry. No. On the half of all those, I didn't get it right.

[23:24] I apologize. It's, I mean, it's understandable when the stakes happen. I just, I,

[23:28] right. Not because for a while there, I was, I was sitting there, I was target on my back,

[23:32] and everybody was pointing at me like, I was at fault. And I think so.

[23:35] I don't hear that. No, and I'm just going by what that's what we make it all right. It's

[23:40] supposed to make them right off. Yeah. Yeah. I had it posted on the property, but I took

[23:45] it down because honestly, I was afraid it was going to go down there and rip it off the

[23:49] tree so he could fight me and say, I don't have one. But yeah, I don't see it. No, sadly, no.

[23:59] 26 acres, that's exciting. Yeah. That's yeah. That's a big, that's a chunk.

[24:06] It's a dream.

[24:07] And a 900-foot drive-by.

[24:09] Probably.

[24:10] Wow.

[24:11] It might be a 900-foot drive-by.

[24:12] So, here we go.

[24:13] It's a nice thing.

[24:14] It's a long way in.

[24:15] A plowing.

[24:16] A plowing to do it.

[24:17] Yes.

[24:18] A plowing to do it.

[24:19] Yeah.

[24:19] We look forward to working with you, right?

[24:21] Yeah.

[24:23] So, we also contract with Central

[24:28] and the Hampshire Planning Commission.

[24:30] And so, I'm sure that the administrative

[24:33] puts you in touch with him if you have additional questions

[24:36] I'm sure he'd be happy to help you.

[24:38] No cost.

[24:38] And we also have a member on this board who is a member

[24:40] of the Conservation Commission and the Biscaticala River

[24:44] is their baby, so he'll probably

[24:46] have some more questions for you on that.

[24:50] He's a really nice guy.

[24:51] I'm just going to make it tonight.

[24:57] Is that what you're talking about?

[24:58] All right.

[24:59] Let's move on.

[25:00] Thank you.

[25:00] Yeah.

[25:01] Have a great day.

[25:02] Thank you.

[25:03] Hey, next up on the agenda is the subdivision application

[25:07] Donald J. Johnson and Dean Johnson Revolvable Trust.

[25:10] $6.96 on the Hill Road, yeah, $2.16 a lot, $11.

[25:15] So the record should probably show that he's going to recuse himself at this point.

[25:21] He's never been at the table.

[25:23] Oh, he's in all today.

[25:24] He's in all today.

[25:27] He's fine.

[25:29] Hey, Peter, how are you?

[25:31] Right.

[25:32] How are you?

[25:33] Fantastic.

[25:34] You

[25:38] got the plans out.

[25:40] Yep.

[25:40] You got a chance to look at them.

[25:45] You've got little ones, two, three.

[26:11] So I

[26:14] have one question, are you going to present something to you?

[26:18] Yeah, I have one question.

[26:19] Sure.

[26:19] I'm looking at all the waivers.

[26:21] Yeah.

[26:21] The first one talks about the blow, the setback, the easement, the blow, you know.

[26:29] And they will tend to probably, because it's a resisting blow.

[26:32] And there's already something, it has to be some kind of understood

[26:35] easement there by the town.

[26:38] And is that the reason why you're asking for a waiver because it's pretty well stated?

[26:47] Well, what you're asking for is a 25 foot easement from the center of the world.

[26:55] In fact, you may end up with a pit before writing.

[26:59] Okay, okay. So there was a survey and a subdivision done on the opposite side of it. And they came up with a right away line that I believe was, you know, maybe intended to be 25 feet off the settlement.

[27:20] So I tied into that survey and held 50 feet off that, so the town in effect has a 50 foot

[27:27] right.

[27:31] So that's why I'm asking for a word on that, because it's a good answer, so that's

[27:36] open.

[27:43] So basically where it's two lots of division, we're cutting a five acre lot off around the

[27:49] the existing house so that it can be sold with and the main land there are no plants for

[27:56] development at this point so

[28:09] sheet one is just kind of an overview shows the existing

[28:15] house, the barn, the afternoon disposal area, the existing well,

[28:23] we're proposing a driveway

[28:25] way easement right at the corner where the driveway enters from Plumber Hill Road,

[28:33] so that's shown to more detail on sheet 2.

[28:42] And that's because the driveway kind of goes outside of the lot line?

[28:46] Yeah.

[28:47] Where the existing driveway is now.

[28:53] I'm going to be given by the hunger of the deed of law of 26,

[29:02] a law of 11 to the proposed law.

[29:05] 11.1, right?

[29:07] 20.

[29:08] No, what will happen is when law of 11 proposed law is conveyed,

[29:15] it will be conveyed together with the reason,

[29:20] I'm going to be granted to the honor of log 26, 11-1.

[29:25] No, go the way around.

[29:27] The easement is on log 11-1.

[29:30] Oh, great.

[29:31] Sorry.

[29:35] You can see it.

[29:36] Right here.

[29:37] Yeah, yeah.

[29:39] I got it.

[29:39] Thanks.

[29:40] Now

[29:43] 11-1 is also a subject to a 20-foot right away

[29:49] along this western boundary which is currently

[29:57] is currently in existence.

[30:00] And several people have rights over it, including the town.

[30:12] I

[30:18] don't

[30:41] think it's a use right now, it's kind of lying on the ground.

[30:43] It's more of a seasonal thing.

[30:47] And then, sheep three shows the remainder of the 2014 easement.

[31:34] No, it is a road.

[31:40] No, no, it's a, I would call it a wood road.

[31:45] I mean, it's, you can drive up there with a car.

[31:48] Pretty good condition.

[31:53] When it was put in, it was there.

[31:55] It's been there quite a while,

[31:56] isn't it?

[31:57] And it was part of the original dam,

[31:58] and then we, it was not existed.

[32:01] It's just on the way and we've cleared it to make it somewhat possible.

[32:10] Is it ever used for logging or anything like that?

[32:13] Yeah, it's been logged, I think it's logged.

[32:18] It probably does a lot on that thing.

[32:23] It doesn't sound like any of that, it's changing.

[32:26] That's just, you just identify what's there,

[32:29] and see if there's any to be there.

[32:31] And that's nothing's really changed.

[32:33] That's the type of area in the lot.

[32:34] The only area here, right?

[32:35] Yep, right.

[32:35] And so let's talk about that because that's where all of the waivers pretty much are going to be the waivers.

[32:50] We're having one of us coming. I was going to take a little bit of one.

[32:54] All right.

[32:57] And Peter can embellish.

[32:59] So,

[33:04] I think on 14.a, we have a comment from Central New Hampshire because the requirement

[33:12] is the two acres of contiguous dry land reviewed the Hillsborough County soil survey on

[33:21] the USDA website using a matching feature in a approximation of the two lots. The survey

[33:30] They showed brave and two acres of sand as soon as presents for both plots.

[33:34] Yeah, but can also provide a photo interaction with the adjacent on the site.

[33:37] Lastly, would be noted that the smaller part of the acre lot is already built upon.

[33:45] I can follow them up.

[33:47] Yeah, I can follow them up.

[33:51] Well, they were.

[33:52] Yeah, I know them.

[33:54] Yeah, we all.

[33:58] So we've got the two acres.

[33:59] We do.

[34:00] Yep, and then 14b the 25 would be sent from the center.

[34:06] That's been answered.

[34:07] That's been answered.

[34:10] 14.c. if no easement includes the plan d to the town.

[34:16] Explain that one.

[34:17] Yeah.

[34:17] I'm kind of confused about that.

[34:23] Well, I'm not sure what the town is looking for there.

[34:31] I'm not sure what the town looks for, to be honest with you, but what the precedent is.

[34:39] You know, I've seen a lot of plans and veering has had that 25-4 easement from the center of the road for many years.

[34:50] And I guess when you approve a plan it becomes a dedicated easement in a sense.

[34:58] because it's shown on the plan and it's noted now it's a time to do it yeah yeah bit by bit yeah

[35:08] but there are no deeds it should be a quit claim not quit claim but that's just a pipe

[35:33] I don't know, I mean, I think it ties in with the waiver on C, because if you don't need

[35:46] We're showing a street line in there that provides a town with a 54 right away, which is what you want.

[35:55] You know, I'm not that knowledgeable. I understand the idea of what was the benefit of the town having it in the easement.

[36:04] They could, they could put a culvert there and discharge road drainage to that area.

[36:10] Yeah.

[36:10] If you're sure I mean, could be clearing up a side of the road, could be.

[36:14] But there's a number of things.

[36:16] But Peter is saying that the survey shows that line, our way to delineated, has to be

[36:25] because it's always the 15th, 12th, and 12th.

[36:27] So, most of it.

[36:30] That's good enough.

[36:32] That's your saying, Mr. Malik, right?

[36:35] Yeah.

[36:35] I don't know, but further to the west, there are stolen walls on Plenty Hill Road.

[36:44] Which is a problem.

[36:46] Yeah,

[36:52] because the typography of that.

[36:54] Right.

[36:54] It was very sandy.

[36:55] And I didn't have a lot of rock to work in.

[36:57] It also goes up.

[36:58] Yeah.

[36:59] So,

[37:03] I mean, I think the reason for the way it varies, you've got your 54 right away.

[37:08] I'm not even at, just if you're looking for a consensus.

[37:11] Anybody help?

[37:12] We all feel good about that?

[37:14] Yep.

[37:14] Okay, but I think checklist item number 15, we already address, checklist item 16, steep slopes over 25 percent.

[37:25] I don't think that really applies here because of the existing property.

[37:34] Yeah.

[37:35] The structure is on there.

[37:36] Location of special features,

[37:43] topography,

[37:47] small survey, catch basins and other subsurface drainage features.

[37:52] test per locations and results.

[37:56] It's all existing, right?

[37:58] There's no development being proposed.

[38:00] Correct.

[38:01] Yep.

[38:02] A lot of this is of no consequence.

[38:05] 4,000 fallen just reading them off for the record.

[38:07] Right.

[38:08] And getting a consensus.

[38:09] We can all read them again.

[38:12] 4,000 square foot septic areas.

[38:15] Preliminary design of bridges and culverts.

[38:18] And then existing structures

[38:20] structures within two and a hundred feet.

[38:24] There's only one which is feet, so I

[38:31] don't think he's

[38:32] a guest.

[38:34] Oh, you get a consensus for this guy.

[38:38] Okay,

[38:45] so I think, at this point, we can...

[38:52] How much is it?

[38:54] Well, we have to...

[38:56] So right here, we have to do all these...

[38:58] I know, to make it there.

[38:59] So now we're going to make a determination of the regional impact.

[39:04] In accordance with RSA 3656, the board shall determine the proposal and development of regional impact.

[39:11] A local land use board as defines RSA 672.7.

[39:16] I'm receiving that patient development shall review it properly and determine whether or not development

[39:21] if approved reasonably should be construed as having the potential for regional impact.

[39:25] I move that this proposal has no reach on it.

[39:31] Do I hear a second?

[39:32] Second.

[39:34] All in favor?

[39:35] All right.

[39:36] Opposed?

[39:37] Yes.

[39:37] Now I sound it.

[39:38] Thank you.

[39:39] Okay.

[39:40] So at this time, we have the ability to act on waivers.

[39:47] Shall I hear a motion on the waivers?

[39:51] I move that all the waivers be granted as previously discussed.

[39:55] Second.

[39:56] All in favor?

[39:57] All right.

[39:57] Opposed?

[39:59] Okay.

[39:59] You guys have it.

[40:00] So, we have acted on the waivers, so now we shall determine if the application is complete.

[40:15] So, I hear a second.

[40:17] I'll second that.

[40:18] All in favor?

[40:20] Hi.

[40:20] Opposed?

[40:22] Yes, I have it.

[40:23] The application is now complete.

[40:26] With that, I can open a public hearing for the plan at 7.12pm.

[40:35] Well, the public meeting hearing is open.

[40:39] No, I don't have anything to add.

[40:41] My interest is in five acre log.

[40:44] We recently moved here and I don't plan on buying that at our home.

[40:50] So we're just obviously interested in how it's going to work.

[40:53] But other than that, I don't have anything to add.

[40:55] Okay.

[40:57] All right, hearing no other.

[40:59] I am closing the public hearing at 713.

[41:03] All right, at this time, we can delivery and vote on the application.

[41:15] Well, I'd like to move the application and then get the...

[41:19] I think we should also move the application.

[41:21] Exactly.

[41:22] Yeah.

[41:23] In the, you can just read them.

[41:25] Perfect.

[41:26] How conditions of approval for the application, Madam Chair,

[41:30] would be to record the easement for the driveway

[41:32] for the Hillsborough County Registry of D's with the plan set.

[41:36] Record the dates for the new lots

[41:38] in the Hillsboro County Registry of Ds with the plan set.

[41:42] Professional stamps and signatures as well as the other signatures need to be on the final

[41:46] plan and any conditions of approval need to be on the final plan and any conditions sought

[41:54] by the board.

[41:55] Do we have, I think also waivers have to be, should be on the plan.

[41:59] I saw that.

[42:00] I thought that we would have them on the board.

[42:02] Any conditions of approval and waivers plan that should be listed on the final plan to

[42:06] be signed.

[42:06] So the list of the letters, those are his comments.

[42:14] Yeah, we can give you a copy of this.

[42:17] I love a copy.

[42:18] You can just have a couple of questions on it.

[42:20] Okay.

[42:25] There you go.

[42:26] And it would be right on.

[42:29] Yeah.

[42:38] Yeah,

[42:41] I think you're all set.

[42:43] Yeah, so this is what.

[42:45] So what are one of the these it's right here are the potential we just read right here, right every every

[42:56] So

[43:08] conditions of one and two

[43:17] The driveway easement is created with your approval

[43:27] Just as the lots are created when you approve the plant

[43:35] You're creating this for these too long

[43:38] So once the plant is recorded

[43:43] So that is looking for record the easement for the driveway at the registry of deeds with the plan set and record the deeds for the new lots with the plan set

[43:54] If neither of these lots will not be sold there's no need for deeds

[44:01] Okay.

[44:03] But this lot is going to be so much bigger than the need for a deed on this lot.

[44:07] Right.

[44:07] But you don't necessarily want to hold up the recording of the plan until the deed

[44:13] is drafted and signed.

[44:15] You want the plan on, right?

[44:17] And then the deed is drawn in the subdivision plan.

[44:20] This plan.

[44:21] It ends.

[44:22] You know.

[44:23] It drew all the deeds and recorded everything it wants.

[44:26] The plan gets recorded when the law of 11 is sold, the description includes the easement.

[44:36] So the plan has to make clear that there is going to be an easement and then if I were the property owner purchasing the five-acre lot,

[44:44] I'd want a conveyance of an easement as well.

[44:48] It's indeed when they buy the property.

[44:50] I'm saying, go round and convert, as a easement, as well, a winery of relying on the planned

[44:55] files of the Ghostbusters.

[45:00] No, no. Okay. Plan. So, in my opinion, the conditions as far as recording the easement and recording the deeds, in effect there's going to be one deed, which is for a lot of luck, but it won't be until everything. But the easement is shown on the record. Right. It's shown on the plan. Yes, but he's asking for, record the easement with the plan set. He wants an easement deed.

[45:29] but we're not doing so I know need for anything.

[45:32] It's going to be in the deed.

[45:34] Does it cost more money?

[45:35] Is it more expensive?

[45:36] Is it going to be convective?

[45:38] So you're just...

[45:40] You don't want to do that.

[45:40] But what he's saying is, is there's going to be a time, right?

[45:44] Yeah.

[45:44] He wants this done so that they can go through a process

[45:48] of purchasing the property, then the deed gets recorded.

[45:51] So it's...

[45:52] The easement is in the deed before a lot of lessons.

[45:55] So you can't do it all at the same time.

[45:58] There's probably not going to be a D for 11-1.

[46:00] Yeah, they can't purchase this property until this is reported.

[46:04] He's got an excellent plan.

[46:06] OK.

[46:06] I mean, you want the plan on records so they can refer to the plan.

[46:10] Do we all feel comfortable that you have to wrap the plan?

[46:13] I understand that.

[46:14] That's interesting question.

[46:16] That's it.

[46:16] Since the order is looking like 11-1 and 11-1A are the same orders.

[46:22] at the time of the approvals. There is no need for a separate deed. A lot of money just

[46:28] basically divides the ownership of the lots on the town property. The ownership remains

[46:34] the same on the town's records must be changes. At the point that you convey the five-acre

[46:41] lot, however, there is going to be a conveyance from the owners of the current five-acre lot,

[46:50] Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. And that will create a new deed for the owners of the five-figure law. Correct.

[46:58] What record- what deed record remains for the now subdivided 11 point cash? One block. That's what comes to mind.

[47:07] There is no- there is no deed until that property is conveyed. Okay. Because the ownership is going to remain the same.

[47:20] The title reference would be the present D, correct, subject to this subdivision and the

[47:29] out-sale of Watt-Elep.

[47:32] So when the subdivision is recorded and somebody does a title search, I'm way above my

[47:40] level.

[47:41] But somebody does a title search, and they do a title search of the property labeled 11-1.

[47:51] The title records reveal the subdivision that then created 11-1.

[47:59] Correct.

[48:01] And that record would then result in the development of a deed reflecting the subdivision approval.

[48:11] Yeah, if in some future time, the Johnson's conveyor eleven dashes, then the deed would be drawn from this plan, just as the deed for a lot of eleven will be drawn to this plan.

[48:23] But until it is conveyed, there's no new deed.

[48:28] And how does it out of the town's records updated with respect to the acreage and ownership of eleven dashes, one for purposes of assessment?

[48:38] and how does that occur?

[48:43] What you typically require is just four paper copies of the plans.

[48:53] And one of those is delivered to the tax mappers

[48:56] and the tax map has to be updated by April 1st of every year.

[49:03] So once this plan is approved

[49:06] you will have paper copies. The intent is that it gets forward to the tax

[49:12] mapper toward the end of the year, and then the tax map is up there. So that's

[49:20] the way it's supposed to work. And even if it's not a subdivision, before I can

[49:26] record a survey of the property, I have to provide the planning board with a copy.

[49:35] Any boundary survey I do, I can provide the planning board with a copy before I record

[49:39] the my law.

[49:40] The intent of that is that the planning board is supposed to give it to the tax mappers

[49:43] and they use it to update tax based on the survey.

[49:47] Okay, sometimes it happens, sometimes it happens.

[49:49] So I have a question, so I want to protect the purchaser of them by making a law, to make

[49:55] sure that that easement that they have of that driveway is never going to be taken away

[50:00] from you.

[50:01] Well, that will be in the deed,

[50:05] well, the deed will describe it as a permanent means of the new deed.

[50:08] Yes.

[50:12] It's interesting that the deed for the smaller lot is going to talk about something that's not on their property.

[50:19] That's quite easy.

[50:21] Okay.

[50:22] Is that how they work?

[50:23] That's how they work.

[50:25] You can't have an easement on your own property.

[50:29] So the larger property is burdened with these.

[50:33] Well, how can I help you?

[50:34] I mean, the light has to be.

[50:35] But it is.

[50:35] I don't want to go off the rails here.

[50:37] But it is.

[50:37] Go ahead.

[50:38] You have to look at the key.

[50:41] You're real too.

[50:44] Well, then what's the...

[50:47] You could wrap it up with this answer this question.

[50:49] So what stops anybody from putting in their deed outrageous assumptions

[50:53] of neighboring property that they have access to.

[50:57] Well, no, that means the Eastman will be a new Eastman.

[51:00] The Westman will be a new Eastman.

[51:02] They'll be right in the East.

[51:03] We'll be doing that.

[51:04] We'll talk about the deans for the five-acre law.

[51:06] I understand.

[51:06] And in that deity, we'll have referenced the Eastman, correct?

[51:11] For something that's not on their property.

[51:13] Correct.

[51:14] So when the five-acre law gets conveyed,

[51:16] among those statements in the five-acre law,

[51:18] which will be coming from the owners of the larger law,

[51:21] It'll be a conveyance of the five-acre lot and a conveyance of an easement that's

[51:27] a burden on the eleminator life, getting the rights of passage based on what physical evidence.

[51:34] Based on the plan that we approved, that's where it all boils down to.

[51:41] But even if the plan didn't have an easement on it and they chose to convey one, they can

[51:54] So there's communication between the two problems.

[51:56] That occurs in a new iteration of the sale.

[51:58] Or, yeah, the version of the transaction.

[52:01] Yeah, we may sell it.

[52:03] Yeah, they better have an agreement.

[52:05] An agreement is represented in the Dees,

[52:07] which is the sale that you want to put conditions,

[52:09] which include an easement,

[52:11] easement within Dees,

[52:12] to an end of Dees as part of the convention.

[52:15] You can tell that I buy and sell vast quantities.

[52:17] proper. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Would you like to re-broad your motion or so?

[52:28] So this, I'm thinking of this, just the proposed one from the original date. Yes. And that's

[52:36] not for this portion, right? It's for somewhere else or. Oh, it's for that. So this actually

[52:42] We described exactly what we're doing here.

[52:45] So it's already in the existing team.

[52:47] That's something that you pro-compire.

[52:49] Is the description of all proposed user eyes are just

[52:52] coming out, is the description.

[52:53] Yeah.

[52:53] It's not in the team also.

[52:55] OK, so we do have a proposed description.

[52:57] We have something.

[52:58] I'm going to say it.

[52:59] We're going to put it back on here.

[53:01] And so for these people, why don't we just say it?

[53:03] If you go to sheet 2, it's a little bit bigger.

[53:06] So yeah.

[53:07] Yeah.

[53:07] It's going to be that.

[53:08] Yeah.

[53:08] OK.

[53:09] And then, so by doing this, we're not rejecting the property that's going to be sold by Baker 1, they're protected, right?

[53:20] There is some sort of access, we're not, we're not, um, straining them, even making them have to do another, this is going to be a feature, or a feature load thing, is that?

[53:33] What happens is that once the plan is approved and recorded, then somebody will be handling

[53:41] the closing, and typically the seller prepares the deed.

[53:46] So the whoever's preparing the deed will get a copy of the plan and the registry of deeds

[53:50] and then they will draft the deed.

[53:53] And hopefully somebody will be sharper enough to see there's an easy one.

[53:57] So, but ordinarily when property is installed, the requirement of

[54:02] easement is not part of what approval of a flat.

[54:05] It's up to the property on this, the sales and the

[54:07] negotiations that do whatever they want to do, they want to

[54:10] meet the county ordinances.

[54:12] Well, the reason for us this is important is, we're creating a

[54:15] lot at the nested easement, it's just that we've had 12

[54:17] way of doing this.

[54:19] So, from our point of view, from the town's point of view, we need

[54:23] to insist upon the presence of this easement in order to have

[54:26] going to improve a bold subdivision.

[54:28] Because we otherwise be creating a lot,

[54:31] the five-week a lot, and so try where.

[54:34] That's why, from my point of view,

[54:35] that reason has to show on the plan we have to improve it.

[54:37] Otherwise, if there were already a dragway there,

[54:40] if they wanted to create any other reasons

[54:41] they wanted to create as between them,

[54:44] give access to the wood road, do whatever they want to do,

[54:47] that's up to them in the manifestations.

[54:49] I think you do with others, right?

[54:51] So that's how this thing happens.

[54:52] And reason why Matt's point is it,

[54:54] at a point where the reason is to show on the plane

[54:56] the notion of law.

[54:59] So having it be a condition that he's going to be on the plan is important to us and I agree with that as a condition.

[55:08] Yeah, that's not the condition he's looking for. He was up above and beyond that. He wanted a deed written up and I'm not going to revise my emotion.

[55:17] Is this a good time to monitor? Yes, please.

[55:20] Okay

[55:22] Are you all set? Yeah, I was just trying to understand what Matt is coming from. Okay. So I did have another question. Sure

[55:29] Is it in your sub-regional regulations that the owner signs the point?

[55:39] No, I think it's a plan work chair. No, we sign here. I don't recall seeing the old specific. I mean sometimes you're quiet

[55:46] Okay, but I know don't recall doing that. Matt works for a lot of towns

[55:50] Yes, so I think that sometimes we get, you know, number three, he says stamps and signatures as well as

[55:57] owner signatures need to be on the final point. Yeah, I don't think you require that. We can scratch that too.

[56:02] We don't require that.

[56:03] Thank you, Matt.

[56:04] Thank you, Peter.

[56:09] I mean, I did make an effort to have all the requested waivers on the phone.

[56:17] Thank you for that.

[56:19] We'll always learn something.

[56:24] Any more questions? No. Okay. No, I'm going to go now.

[56:34] I'd like

[56:36] to make a motion to prove the subdivision with the conditions such as record the easement

[56:43] for the dry and wetting at the Hillsboro County Registry of Deeds with the plan set that

[56:48] professional stamps and signatures appropriate need to be in the final

[56:52] plan. Is that good enough? But you would not do it easily. Yeah, the first. The first

[56:57] way you go. We're not doing one and two. We're not doing both one and two? Yeah. Correct.

[57:03] Because that's requiring the deed. Yeah. Let's start over.

[57:10] I make a motion. I mean,

[57:13] really, you don't need any of these conditions because you haven't had it in

[57:17] additional conditions to your approval, correct?

[57:20] Yeah, but I'm going to do it anyway here, OK?

[57:26] Because I've started it.

[57:27] OK.

[57:28] And I'm already checking it red.

[57:29] So that's like, is it hot in here?

[57:32] Yeah, it's it right.

[57:33] And it is hot in here, maybe one.

[57:34] It's very hot in here.

[57:35] I never said that there's a Z-E-1.

[57:36] Yeah, this is like, OK, I make a motion

[57:39] to approve this subdivision with professional stamps

[57:41] and the signature of the chair on the final plan.

[57:45] Any conditions of approval need to be on the final plan,

[57:47] which they are and the waivers, the waivers, are on the new plan.

[57:54] They're just there.

[57:57] No order permission.

[57:59] I remember anything.

[58:00] And the motion.

[58:02] And the motion.

[58:03] I'll check them out.

[58:04] All in favor?

[58:06] All right.

[58:07] Opposed?

[58:08] Great.

[58:08] The eyes have it.

[58:09] You are through.

[58:10] Thank you so much.

[58:11] Wow.

[58:12] That's a great surprise.

[58:13] It is one of you.

[58:14] You just wish you were here.

[58:15] I didn't even bring a lot.

[58:17] I did.

[58:17] I think that would have something to do with what you love about it, but you can't charge it for me then.

[58:25] So you sure that would have enough coffee?

[58:27] Yes.

[58:28] Right?

[58:29] Yes.

[58:29] You know, it's a good one.

[58:30] You have 11, or 10?

[58:32] I think yeah, 10.

[58:33] Sure, you know what I mean?

[58:34] I mean, 10 coffee.

[58:35] I don't know.

[58:35] You don't even look at it.

[58:37] You might want to revise that.

[58:39] Yeah.

[58:39] 10 coffee is a lot of things.

[58:41] Yeah.

[58:43] We'll look at that.

[58:44] Thank you.

[58:46] I mean, he's paying, so he's like, yeah, positionally we can use the little ones because

[58:52] what our table is in there enough for everyone, so I'll leave you four of these, if I don't

[58:57] pick, there are any invasions.

[58:59] Can you leave me five?

[59:00] Just in case?

[59:01] Yeah,

[59:06] just in case.

[59:07] Just in case.

[59:10] I mean, I go into you with the ones that we bring back, so I'll see you in the next one.

[59:15] How many of you?

[59:18] You've got four there.

[59:22] Okay, I'll pick five.

[59:25] Is there a rebate on the mask?

[59:29] No, he's got a paint form.

[59:30] But now he can paint these and use them.

[59:33] He's going to paper it back on.

[59:36] No, the attorney's going to need one.

[59:37] Yeah, they're going to need one.

[59:39] Peek the whole one.

[59:42] And put it in the floorboards.

[59:49] Alright, so I will get you a mile mark.

[59:53] Thank you very much.

[59:55] Yeah.

[1:00:01] Just send it to the town. They'll learn me that it's here.

[1:00:08] I might say that piece of property that you're considering has wonderful numbers to be spent on it. Many, many times in my life, seeing all kinds of movies in that barn.

[1:00:23] So, no kinds of eligible time.

[1:00:26] And I have to see some of this that property,

[1:00:28] or do your, your, your,

[1:00:30] residents of Deering for a long, long time.

[1:00:33] So, taking a property that comes with a lot of good call,

[1:00:36] really.

[1:00:37] And we know that you're connected, too.

[1:00:38] So, yeah.

[1:00:39] Yeah, very exciting.

[1:00:41] Yeah.

[1:00:42] Well, I don't know how to, can we do movies?

[1:00:45] Stop here?

[1:00:45] You have to project it, right?

[1:00:47] We'll do some movies.

[1:00:48] Yeah,

[1:00:51] I'm sorry.

[1:00:51] We'll get the quick-to-pine drum things,

[1:00:54] or whatever it is out of there.

[1:00:55] Thanks for the round of applause.

[1:00:58] Thank you very much.

[1:01:02] Thank you very much.

[1:01:04] Have

[1:01:08] a great night.

[1:01:08] Thank you.

[1:01:09] Have a great night.

[1:01:10] See you on the blackouts.

[1:01:11] Thank you very much.

[1:01:15] OK.

[1:01:16] Next on the agenda, Miss Alain, Miss Business, did you grab the proposal on hearing what

[1:01:21] happened?

[1:01:31] So I had a quick question.

[1:01:34] Encouraged to meet with the planner.

[1:01:39] That could be Matt, it could be anybody that we assign, could be you, could be a couple

[1:01:48] of you.

[1:01:49] It couldn't be me, I can't speak for the board.

[1:01:52] You don't have to.

[1:01:54] So, I'm just a last speaker, if there's draught together, it's just important.

[1:01:58] Matt and I are different.

[1:01:59] Yeah.

[1:02:00] We just need to figure this out together over the course of five or six meetings.

[1:02:05] I have some questions about it there.

[1:02:10] And those are math words, I think.

[1:02:13] So who is considered the plan?

[1:02:18] Maybe the bill, the inspector.

[1:02:23] I would say I think he's probably thinking about someone who is knowledgeable about planning

[1:02:29] board stuff.

[1:02:31] You know, I think the enemy could be, I mean, nothing speaks for the board.

[1:02:38] Right, but you're also, we're all volunteers and we really shouldn't be speaking to people.

[1:02:46] Right. You just don't do that.

[1:02:48] Well, the chair could do that. The chair can absolutely speak to applicants.

[1:02:52] Yes? With all questions to help them with the process. Is part of the chair's chair?

[1:02:59] I know that, but I cannot do it, because we have lost many chairs who get inundated with

[1:03:09] a lot of questions that should be handled by the town administrator or the buildings back there.

[1:03:16] I'll go on record saying town made a big mistake when they cut a bit of the planning and

[1:03:20] zoning.

[1:03:22] Oh, I know.

[1:03:23] It's been 15 years now and it's still over there.

[1:03:25] It has to be a disaster if it's anything.

[1:03:27] It comes through there all into that.

[1:03:29] Yeah.

[1:03:29] So we're going to circle that to plan?

[1:03:32] Yeah.

[1:03:33] I would.

[1:03:33] I think that's the reference map.

[1:03:35] At least, you know, because by saying a mathematical board, that covers us, along others.

[1:03:42] It could.

[1:03:42] What about me with a town planner?

[1:03:47] There's there.

[1:03:50] I mean my question would be if I was deciding to adjust my lot lines and I was given

[1:04:00] this document, my question would be, okay well I'm encouraged to meet with the planner

[1:04:09] and what are the applicable boards?

[1:04:11] The process is, is that you fill out the paperwork and you come before the board and get it reviewed.

[1:04:18] Yeah. So, that's good enough for my question.

[1:04:21] So, a preparation for that.

[1:04:23] I'm just an individual.

[1:04:25] Yeah, but even a conceptual would come before the board.

[1:04:28] Right.

[1:04:28] You wouldn't speak to somebody individually and be the endistory.

[1:04:33] You'd also talk to a central and a half year regional.

[1:04:36] Well, so, that's it.

[1:04:38] So

[1:04:43] it's not actually a free service, and part of all these applications is that $500 that's put towards if they utilize that service, they get back billed for that out of that amount.

[1:04:57] Right, and at risk

[1:05:01] of offering up central and international planning, what has happened in the past is people have used that well ahead of the application, not part for free, and by the time they're actually in with the application, it's a reduced amount.

[1:05:14] We did it earlier with that.

[1:05:15] You said the public did exactly as far as it goes, but it doesn't capture the fact that there's a lot of situations in the past as we've gone through process and we put a consideration of something else in one meeting to a following meeting.

[1:05:31] And there have been conversations between the applicant and Matt.

[1:05:36] There have been clarifications.

[1:05:37] There have been additional things explained.

[1:05:40] And it's just, I don't know whether we build or not build.

[1:05:43] The applicant or not.

[1:05:45] But the expect Matt to do that.

[1:05:46] That's part of what makes the process work.

[1:05:49] So when you say, just to be clear about it, when you say we shouldn't allow applicants to be able to speak to central elementary blank, it makes me uneasy.

[1:05:58] If the board, if they're engaged with the board, the planning board at that point, and the

[1:06:04] planning board decides, hey, talk to Matt about that.

[1:06:08] That's a planning board decision, and that money comes out of the planning board's budget.

[1:06:14] But what we're looking at at this point is, this is well before it gets even to that point.

[1:06:19] So starting to give out a free resource when the planning board is maybe engaged.

[1:06:28] I mean, this should be a relatively simple procedure, right?

[1:06:32] I mean, anybody who could kind of read it would really need to talk to somebody about it.

[1:06:40] Why don't we say that the applicant is encouraged to meet with the planning board during formulation of the plan?

[1:06:46] It's our concept.

[1:06:48] I like that. I like that better because that's insurable. A planner is not insurable.

[1:06:57] And it's consistent with everything else we did.

[1:06:59] And the chance of having a planner in the future is pretty slim.

[1:07:05] I think that refers to the map. I thought I did too.

[1:07:09] But it should say that or we should have it like this. Right.

[1:07:20] But I think also, I didn't know I said because this needs to go to the town administrator, right?

[1:07:31] What do you say to this?

[1:07:35] To the planning ed during the hamster.gov.

[1:07:38] I mean, it doesn't require any,

[1:07:44] I mean, there's a fee.

[1:07:47] So with the fee, which is a form and fee?

[1:07:52] It would be a second question.

[1:07:54] Yes.

[1:07:55] If you specifically need the town administrator involved,

[1:07:59] is that what you're saying?

[1:08:00] Is that you're calling it specifically?

[1:08:02] Yeah, because they need you involved.

[1:08:04] They have to collect the fees.

[1:08:06] They have to.

[1:08:08] Oh, that pay for you.

[1:08:09] That's all wrong, right?

[1:08:12] Well, wait a second.

[1:08:16] So it should be the same, but it's the assessing mailbox and right now the TA and everybody

[1:08:22] was covering.

[1:08:23] Right.

[1:08:23] It gets us to see that.

[1:08:25] So at some point, the TA can direct traffic with

[1:08:33] that.

[1:08:34] Yeah.

[1:08:34] I think this counted as a process.

[1:08:36] Let's see.

[1:08:37] I see.

[1:08:37] At first.

[1:08:39] However.

[1:08:40] To keep describing it.

[1:08:45] not by an adjustment universe as a subset of a subdivision application. If I

[1:08:53] understand it, for those of us who didn't discuss all of this with that, something

[1:09:01] you would ask if they had a chance to look at it. So the only authority for the

[1:09:06] town, a lot, is this part of a subdivision, heads under the RSAs. The under the

[1:09:16] RSA, however, there is permission to consider a streamlined subdivision process, I'll call

[1:09:25] the platform one of the lines and this, where the nature of that process is not going

[1:09:32] to change the number of

[1:09:38] building lots or assessed properties before the town.

[1:09:44] So if it's if you're talking about adjusting lines between two existing lots on the town's records has established on our tax map.

[1:09:55] And all we're doing is moving lines at creating new building lots.

[1:10:01] That would be a lot of line adjustment. That's what it says. Right.

[1:10:05] Right, so just so you understand that now comes the question, because I had this come up before my own personal situation

[1:10:12] and I don't remember if there was any other subject matter.

[1:10:15] Maybe we had the time to screw it up.

[1:10:18] I don't know.

[1:10:19] I had a lot.

[1:10:21] It was a create a lot, of course, 29 or something like that, as I remember.

[1:10:25] I purchased a joining property of some 18 acres and then I came before the planning board

[1:10:33] to merge the two plots.

[1:10:36] I did the same thing.

[1:10:37] That's different, that's not it?

[1:10:38] Yeah. Now, what is that?

[1:10:40] And how does that fit within the scheme we're talking about?

[1:10:44] That's a lot more than that.

[1:10:45] That is a lot lighter.

[1:10:46] Just that you're removing a lot.

[1:10:48] A lot.

[1:10:49] Well, that's a lot of merge.

[1:10:50] It's a merge.

[1:10:51] A merge.

[1:10:52] That's my point.

[1:10:53] It's a merge.

[1:10:53] But it does change the assessing records of the town.

[1:10:57] Because in the case where I did it,

[1:10:59] I went from a 2.39 acre log, that was logic within the waterfront, to what became a 20 acre

[1:11:07] log.

[1:11:08] Now subject to current use, there's all kinds of other assessing implications, and you

[1:11:19] would think that I don't know what the thing, I mean it went, I just can't even make this

[1:11:26] We're going to wipe out the line between the two lots and call it all one lot and that's what we've got decided.

[1:11:31] And then the assessors assess that we have a way to assess it.

[1:11:35] Does that fit the definition?

[1:11:38] Are we talking about rangers as well as lot line adjustments between,

[1:11:43] because it's something to adjust the line between two existing lots.

[1:11:46] Nothing to wipe out a line and wipe out a lot, which is what you do.

[1:11:51] Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's two different things, right?

[1:11:56] I'm asking the question because you like to see that in the end, you did it in the end.

[1:11:59] It would like you to see that again, now what are we going to do with that one, that was.

[1:12:03] Need a separate application and process for that?

[1:12:05] Is there a subdivision application?

[1:12:07] What is it?

[1:12:08] Oh, right.

[1:12:09] It was one page thing and you listed the different maps and it's what's called a very easy process

[1:12:19] for the planning course.

[1:12:20] Good.

[1:12:21] And the process should be easy for the applicant too if it doesn't require such scrutiny from

[1:12:26] our plan.

[1:12:28] Well, you can think of it because you already have a buildable lot that's already in the

[1:12:32] non-performing or a bit of longing lot, you're now heading to it, so what are you doing?

[1:12:37] You have to worry about it, we sure have to worry about it, so you don't have to worry about

[1:12:40] it.

[1:12:40] And you have something that's got the buildings on it.

[1:12:42] There's the bottom.

[1:12:43] So.

[1:12:43] Yes, there you go.

[1:12:44] That's the voluntary lot line work.

[1:12:46] Sure.

[1:12:47] This is a form that's out on the website.

[1:12:49] Yeah.

[1:12:49] I mean, it's the voluntary lock merger form, you just have to fill this out.

[1:12:53] Okay, thank you very much.

[1:12:55] So we made the circuit just the time you had it all the time.

[1:12:59] A lot on a adjustment form, according to Bob Carter, who was a past chair of the mine board,

[1:13:03] and somehow we can't find it.

[1:13:06] I mean, it might rare, it's for all we know after we adopt something like this.

[1:13:12] This is just so that you didn't have to use the subdivision application

[1:13:16] and ask for a ton of waivers, which requires a lot of work from the planning board and that's

[1:13:21] all this is. But at least, at least no stone on the current.

[1:13:26] Well, I agree that we need it, for sure. We definitely need it. We need to update the process

[1:13:32] and all of this is fantastic. We're just kind of discussing it.

[1:13:36] Yeah. I know what happened above Carter's proposal.

[1:13:41] I was going to ask that question, he was in an exigeant situation, and I think he was

[1:13:46] tenuous in it best.

[1:13:49] Well, I'll tell him we got the form if we adopted, or we're getting close, but he was

[1:13:55] not interested in going through all the work of the subdivision application and asking for

[1:14:01] other waivers and defending himself.

[1:14:04] But it was fun working with Matt, and I encourage you all to do it sometime.

[1:14:09] I didn't take much we used a can of very template and I did a lot of work on the actual

[1:14:20] component of the list and Matt just did a quick reference on where you can find all that stuff.

[1:14:31] There's a set of conditions for the very young ladies, like that it's an issue, so it's not about that.

[1:14:37] They're the ones that are the number one to do my attention, which were that the two properties that are going to be subject to the law behind adjustment, which may not be only by the same person.

[1:14:50] It may be two different owners who are the great talent, a lot like them to take their properties as I understand the process.

[1:15:00] However, for this to work, it states that the properties listed herein shall not be subject

[1:15:06] to separate themes of mortgages. So, is that because the underlying guarantee of the

[1:15:19] That's a change that we diminish without the approval of the mogul,

[1:15:22] and if that's the concern, why wouldn't the condition be,

[1:15:26] and if they are, that there would be approval by the underlying green odor of mogul.

[1:15:33] When I worked on this voluntary log merger form,

[1:15:36] it also has one of those conditions in here,

[1:15:38] and I believe that it's tied to staple.

[1:15:41] So it's a staple of pass down.

[1:15:48] I'm on the last page by signing below, so next is the last page, okay, after number four,

[1:15:55] we're on the other board.

[1:16:05] I don't understand number two at all.

[1:16:09] Any search means, I understand that.

[1:16:13] Why do the limbs have to apply equally to all parcels?

[1:16:16] I don't understand that.

[1:16:17] I don't understand that one.

[1:16:19] I understand.

[1:16:20] So, I think it may just need to be a little bit better with Smith.

[1:16:25] So we actually had, if you guys recall, we had the situation right on North Road, the

[1:16:33] old house that now there's a new home being built.

[1:16:38] If you remember, he had an issue with his driveway, so we did a lot of line investment for

[1:16:44] him after the subdivision was done.

[1:16:46] And that was because I remember he had an issue with driveway and when he purchased the

[1:16:53] property he didn't realize that there was going to be the slope of the berm.

[1:16:57] And the seller was very amendable to making the lot line adjustment so that he could buy

[1:17:03] it.

[1:17:04] So I think that, I think what that means is that I don't understand why we as a town would

[1:17:13] care about a lien, right? The town wouldn't have a lien. That would be like a bank lien.

[1:17:20] I don't know how you're going to say what it means to stay. The lien, the lien has to

[1:17:23] apply equally to all parcels. I don't know if I don't understand what that even means.

[1:17:28] That seems like if you had one owner of the two parcels, that'd be in the case of one owner

[1:17:34] of the two parcels, adjusting the line. Because otherwise, if it's two different owners

[1:17:39] I don't know if you're interested in laying this on a pipe, but I can't.

[1:17:42] I said I need to tell you guys, I see the piece of the, let's twist behind that.

[1:17:47] Okay.

[1:17:49] I wish I had an answer for you.

[1:17:50] Yeah, that's not all.

[1:17:51] It's easy.

[1:17:53] It's easy.

[1:17:54] You still have to question her.

[1:17:55] You're saying equal to all parcels in the case where one on her owns all parts.

[1:17:59] Well, if you'll be around next meeting, why don't we ask her?

[1:18:02] Yeah, exactly.

[1:18:04] And there's the section for the two owners to sign.

[1:18:08] The

[1:18:28] very last paragraph is going to indicate two different months, doesn't it?

[1:18:33] There's a question reviewed by the hearing tax successor for a lot.

[1:18:48] I'll see.

[1:18:49] Is this in a better reference?

[1:18:51] By the signature below, this request has been reviewed by the time during planning board.

[1:18:57] And the lot line adjustments will not result in the violation of the front zoning ordinance.

[1:19:02] So the reading regulations says any of the lots at all.

[1:19:06] Yes, or in the case of an existing nonconforming lot.

[1:19:11] So he's saying he should say lots, right?

[1:19:15] In the case of a business...

[1:19:16] Well, it doesn't have to be said lots of times.

[1:19:17] Yeah, just one.

[1:19:18] Just one.

[1:19:18] If that covers two.

[1:19:20] Under the English language, there could be the existence of a two non-conforming lots.

[1:19:26] And that would be an existing non-conforming lot.

[1:19:29] For a time, right?

[1:19:30] That's the first one.

[1:19:31] So what's your suggestion?

[1:19:33] What are you saying?

[1:19:33] Nothing.

[1:19:34] It's okay.

[1:19:35] It's okay.

[1:19:35] Okay, and

[1:19:40] Tom, you say that there should be a place for two tax map numbers and a lot of numbers.

[1:19:46] I would think.

[1:19:47] There was.

[1:19:49] All right, on the flash page.

[1:19:50] There was.

[1:19:51] Very funny.

[1:19:51] Right, here's one.

[1:19:53] I know too.

[1:19:54] Where it goes to the very last.

[1:19:55] Very last.

[1:19:56] Where it goes to the accessor.

[1:19:59] Oh, I see.

[1:20:00] Yeah, absolutely.

[1:20:01] Anyway.

[1:20:02] Yeah, two.

[1:20:03] There's going to be two here.

[1:20:04] Two maps.

[1:20:05] Two lots of lines.

[1:20:06] Two lots of affected.

[1:20:07] Yeah.

[1:20:07] Yeah, he's got

[1:20:13] there with more, but I

[1:20:17] have to say that it has four to what you say, but that's merging as opposed to that.

[1:20:23] Yeah, merging up to four.

[1:20:24] Yeah, you can merge up to four lots all at once.

[1:20:27] Four.

[1:20:27] I'm sure you could put more if you wanted to.

[1:20:29] Yeah, because it's a word document.

[1:20:31] Yeah, he could always expand it.

[1:20:45] I've done the first page.

[1:20:46] Yeah, we were talking about the planner part.

[1:20:51] What do you guys think of?

[1:20:52] I'm just throwing this out there because I know we probably want to get whatever we can get done.

[1:20:56] And so the applicant is encouraged to request a conceptual review with the planning boards

[1:21:03] during formulation of the plan and before submitting a final application or during the

[1:21:10] formulation of a plan for guidance under existing town ordinance and regulations before submitting

[1:21:16] a final application.

[1:21:17] Yeah, as long as we keep the word encouraged there because they can do it or not.

[1:21:20] Right.

[1:21:21] Yeah, and just be thanks to the author of that.

[1:21:24] A smart person would, but a knowledge of a person may not have to fear

[1:21:36] people.

[1:21:37] Well, shall we put this in the file here and then have a share of his meeting?

[1:21:42] Sure.

[1:21:42] And recently my friend after he's there, I had a survey.

[1:21:45] I revised the survey with a lot of, he's probably going to be a regular.

[1:21:49] Right, the survey or we want a lot of answers.

[1:21:52] right yeah do you want to give that language to Matt I had a good no I can I can

[1:22:05] continue it yes I don't think that it's it's not like we need to have it's your

[1:22:20] Do you have anything to add?

[1:22:24] No.

[1:22:24] I have a question.

[1:22:25] Sure.

[1:22:25] So in the case of when we haven't heard of law of color, they're sure we're coming back

[1:22:31] to the board.

[1:22:31] Why couldn't the board do the very same thing that this application has us do without having

[1:22:39] an application to do it and just to say, okay, it's a subdivision application.

[1:22:45] don't fill out 4.2, 4.3, 4.7, 5.2, 5.5, we're going to wave those anyway.

[1:22:53] Come on and ask us for waivers on those provisions, just like we have here.

[1:22:57] Because you have to document that and we would have to redo our poll.

[1:23:01] And I think the fee should be appropriate, because the subject should pay maybe more

[1:23:06] than what this should be, because it requires less scrutiny.

[1:23:10] I'm just thinking about the cases that might come up before we have a process, do we have

[1:23:17] to have this in order to be able to do effect it?

[1:23:19] That's good.

[1:23:20] Yeah.

[1:23:22] Well, I suggest we get some giddy up in our process.

[1:23:25] We should be approved next meeting now.

[1:23:27] Yeah.

[1:23:27] We can, I mean, we can approve it.

[1:23:29] But we just have questions from that specifically.

[1:23:32] Okay.

[1:23:32] So, my initial suggestion had been along that lines, like take our existing subdivision

[1:23:37] application but for a lot of adjustments that

[1:23:43] way as you're redoing forms everything gets done

[1:23:46] at once and then there isn't this.

[1:23:59] Can we update our subdivision regulations? That's

[1:24:03] a substitute change, right? We would have to go... I think something like that is to have come

[1:24:10] meeting for substitute change. They should go here and... Thank you very, do we're done?

[1:24:14] If it's just on an application,

[1:24:19] those regulations, you said to change the regulations, so that you're

[1:24:28] mimicking the same thing, but you're exempting the things that wouldn't be applicable.

[1:24:32] For that line, adjustments only need to leave the start edge.

[1:24:37] Right, and here's the B-Sketwell for this and here's the B-Sketwell for that.

[1:24:41] So everything is all one stock, and you don't end up with all these different documents.

[1:24:47] So the suggestion is to forego this form and just modify.

[1:24:59] I think all the work is here. It's just a matter of going to the other form and saying, okay, these are the things that don't apply.

[1:25:05] Oh, this is good work, you know, and I didn't find what for you to separate form for merge your

[1:25:11] lot line adjustment subdivision. You're saying no, I may think I touched that.

[1:25:17] Yeah, my suggestion was taking the existing subdivision application and then from that, using

[1:25:24] this as the guide for what to take out. So if you are doing a lot line adjustments, do section

[1:25:30] this, this, this, this, this. The fee is this. I see people.

[1:25:35] Well, to the town of the state. Yeah.

[1:25:37] Well, no, to determine what they have to fill out. So that way, you're not saying it twice.

[1:25:42] Because if you go to update the subdivision application, but then forget to do a lot of

[1:25:48] things. I think it's been confused. People and it's going to be too worried.

[1:25:52] And they don't get much. It's kind of confused people. Talk about that for a

[1:25:55] It's a person that doesn't understand.

[1:25:57] I mean, you're going to have to put it in the hole.

[1:25:59] We're talking about that way.

[1:26:02] That way.

[1:26:02] The data test, too, for.

[1:26:03] Plus, it's not going to be amazing.

[1:26:04] It used to be.

[1:26:05] Now, I'm going to apply.

[1:26:06] And lie down as a patient, and then I'm going to do a slaper.

[1:26:10] It's a safer, good idea.

[1:26:11] I just do that, do that.

[1:26:16] And I mean, we get this right.

[1:26:18] This is actually a straight line of work that we do.

[1:26:22] I want to do it.

[1:26:23] You can do it in a regular way, but it's on page.

[1:26:26] It back-up page.

[1:26:27] 16

[1:26:37] I agree with you.

[1:26:40] I agree with you, but there is a reference to where they can look it up.

[1:26:47] I thought that was pretty cool that we have all the references.

[1:26:50] You know, well, um,

[1:26:56] Yeah, well, hyperlinks right up here, Tom, we are now hyperlinks, okay,

[1:27:06] any other questions?

[1:27:09] All right, excellent, so now we go on to, I don't know if anyone has had a chance to review the minutes, the last, they're in the packet.

[1:27:36] No, it wasn't in the e-mail. I thought it was because I had to start some questions.

[1:27:48] I mean, we don't have-

[1:27:50] I am a handsome girl.

[1:27:53] I know what you're saying.

[1:27:55] I know what you're saying.

[1:27:56] The code depends on the voice.

[1:27:58] Thank you.

[1:27:59] I would suggest a good reader on this because it does have Peter putting forward a subdivision plan review.

[1:28:07] So, it has been following great afterwards.

[1:28:11] See you later.

[1:28:12] Yeah, I think.

[1:28:14] We're here.

[1:28:14] I will.

[1:28:15] I will.

[1:28:16] Does anyone want me to read a mail?

[1:28:17] Because I can.

[1:28:18] Yeah.

[1:28:19] Okay.

[1:28:19] How do you do your homework?

[1:28:20] And then we can do our homework.

[1:28:22] I just wanted it on the.

[1:28:25] On your list.

[1:28:26] And I am a.

[1:28:27] I am a.

[1:28:28] I am a.

[1:28:29] This kind of people dream.

[1:28:30] They're homework instead of real-time fact checking.

[1:28:33] Matt is our real-time fact checker.

[1:28:36] We have everything in front of us.

[1:28:38] Let's come prepared with our questions.

[1:28:40] Sure, there's going to be some conversation dialogue that will require some real-time fact-checking.

[1:28:47] We've seen about regulations.

[1:28:49] What is it?

[1:28:49] And that's the one that should do that.

[1:28:53] So we can move things around.

[1:28:55] Meaning putting it into another formatter?

[1:28:57] No, just while we're having the discussion, instead of one of us on our computer looking at it,

[1:29:02] Matt looks it up while he continues on the same thought process that we're all

[1:29:07] to point you to use this somewhere else.

[1:29:09] May.

[1:29:13] That's from Bob Carter.

[1:29:14] Yeah, yeah.

[1:29:16] I thought it was a lot worth it.

[1:29:17] Also, Matt and Sheriff.

[1:29:19] You are kind enough to make tons of copies but I think we all get the information via email.

[1:29:26] Most of us have printers and nobody here doesn't have a printer.

[1:29:30] So, um, I don't think you have to get here and ban ton of coffees.

[1:29:36] Maybe something for the public if you feel that's appropriate to have.

[1:29:40] But, uh, we all can ease that burden.

[1:29:43] Just comprehend.

[1:29:45] Yeah.

[1:29:45] Push your follow online, if you know.

[1:29:52] Whatever makes you comfortable.

[1:29:53] Yeah.

[1:29:54] You know, I don't, I'm not putting restrictions on anybody all the way.

[1:29:57] You feel comfortable.

[1:29:58] Right.

[1:29:58] Yeah.

[1:29:58] Yeah, I think it's all too hard.

[1:30:00] We're not to have electronic devices, but it's the real time fact-checking when we start to lose, you know, the threat of what we're trying to do here. So if we all, you know, we all have our stuff ahead of time. We research it. We're all planning board members. If we have questions, write them down. And then we'll discuss it as a group. I'm all fast and so I just do the paper. Otherwise your time is late. Yeah. And I think that we need to have a cubby that has a

[1:30:29] All our planning board documents, hard copies.

[1:30:34] So if we really feel like we want to look up our regulations

[1:30:36] or our zoning ordinance, we can do that.

[1:30:38] And I would like to propose that it ain't cheap

[1:30:41] because copies aren't cheap unless I spend time here doing it.

[1:30:47] Do you want to reopen the world where our town planner,

[1:30:50] you still always have a binder for us every new day?

[1:30:55] I mean, I don't mind having the binders,

[1:30:57] but in this modern era of electronics,

[1:31:01] I'm not sure it's appropriate to demand

[1:31:03] that everybody has a binder, right?

[1:31:06] But it's nice to have that hard copy

[1:31:09] of the regulations, the site plan regulations,

[1:31:12] and the zoning stuff.

[1:31:13] Just here.

[1:31:14] Do you want me to put that together?

[1:31:16] I have a laser printer home.

[1:31:18] That's a lot of paper.

[1:31:19] That's a lot of paper.

[1:31:21] I don't care.

[1:31:22] That would be great.

[1:31:24] I was just going to do it, but I'm sure it's screwed up.

[1:31:26] Yeah, I want to do it.

[1:31:28] I want to do it.

[1:31:29] I want to do it.

[1:31:30] I want to do it.

[1:31:31] It's fantastic.

[1:31:33] Yeah.

[1:31:34] And forms, all of our forms, you know, like you have to do a great job with the repository, everything.

[1:31:40] You're really good at that.

[1:31:42] If we can just have all of that stuff, it's right there.

[1:31:45] First works for a bank, right?

[1:31:48] It's on the bank at this point.

[1:31:49] Yes.

[1:31:50] I'm here for it.

[1:31:51] I'd also like to see something on that wall that we can hang maps for presenters.

[1:31:57] I think that's not a bad idea. Just a close line with clips. Not a hard thing. Who do I talk to about that? Dislike them?

[1:32:11] They make tracks. Yeah, right. I think it would help. I think it's a track and it's a little court-porn and then you can just put them right in.

[1:32:21] Yeah, I know the time map always helps.

[1:32:24] Yeah.

[1:32:25] Yep.

[1:32:25] Confirmation means everything.

[1:32:27] It's not your actual map.

[1:32:28] Yeah, yeah.

[1:32:29] Okay, those are my little bit papers.

[1:32:31] Thank you.

[1:32:32] Yeah, a little project.

[1:32:35] And thank you to you for that.

[1:32:37] Yeah.

[1:32:37] I appreciate it.

[1:32:38] Thank you.

[1:32:39] That's what matters.

[1:32:40] Yeah.

[1:32:41] Motion to adjourn.

[1:32:42] Eight or four.

[1:32:43] Do I hear a second?

[1:32:44] I can.

[1:32:45] All in favor?

[1:32:46] All right.

[1:32:48] All right.

[1:32:48] Okay.

[1:32:49] Congratulations.

[1:32:50] Yes.

[1:32:52] See, I told you, why don't we get the...

[1:32:56] Oh, hit that.

[1:32:58] Now that I know, I think they have a new policy that they, uh, the last couple.

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