[0:00] Welcome everyone to the Dell Rapids City Council regular session meeting dated August 17, 2026, Monday at 7 p.m.

[0:11] Welcome to everybody sitting out here. Again, I'm excited to see everyone smiling faces.

[0:17] Interested in your local government and welcome to everyone online and listening at home. If you would, please join me in saying the pledge of allegiance.

[0:27] Oh, I'm sorry, roll call. My bad. I need to put my glasses on, so read my shelves.

[0:34] Here.

[0:35] Time.

[0:35] Here. Nelson.

[0:37] Cavageli. Here.

[0:38] Here.

[0:38] Ron Sagan.

[0:39] Here.

[0:39] Mercing.

[0:40] Hans Lake.

[0:41] Mayor Simmons.

[0:43] Now, please join me in saying the pledge of allegiance.

[1:01] Thank you.

[1:07] Thank you.

[1:08] Thank you.

[1:08] At this point, I will entertain a motion to approve the invitation.

[1:12] agenda as Britain.

[1:16] So I'm going to count the jelly.

[1:17] Is that second?

[1:19] Any further discussion?

[1:21] Hearing none.

[1:21] All those in favor of approving the agenda, say aye.

[1:25] Opposed name.

[1:26] Motion carry to approve the agenda.

[1:28] Next, looking at approving the minutes, the minutes,

[1:32] from August 3rd in 2026.

[1:35] Window, all right?

[1:37] Approval of minutes for August 3rd and August 3rd.

[1:40] Thank you.

[1:44] Move to approve.

[1:46] Okay.

[1:47] For the discussion.

[1:49] All those in favor of approving the minute say I.

[1:52] I oppose me.

[1:54] Motion carried to approve the minutes moving on.

[1:57] Visitors to be heard tonight.

[2:00] Please come forward and say your name.

[2:02] Make sure you speak into the microphone so that we can hear you.

[2:07] Clear is about.

[2:08] And now you can hear us.

[2:10] Sure people have to.

[2:11] I'm a little short.

[2:13] I think you're talking to me today.

[2:15] All right.

[2:15] Thank you very much.

[2:17] My name is Solve Larsen Hendrickson.

[2:19] I live at the corner of Orleans and East Six Street.

[2:24] And I am subject to.

[2:27] The street repairs that will happen in the summer of 19.

[2:32] Excuse me.

[2:33] In 2007, while I support infrastructure improvements in necessary street repairs, I strongly urge the city to revise its current plans and preserve these invaluable assets of the mature trees in on our blocks in the following ways.

[2:52] One, urban heat mitigation, the extensive canopy of trees shield are asphalt streets inside walks from intense sunlight,

[3:03] losing them will create an heat island effect drastically reducing, raising summer temperatures on our blocks and increasing cooling costs for nearby homes.

[3:15] 2. There's a loss of the birds and pollinators sanctuaries. 3. Mental and physical well-being.

[3:23] Studies consistently show that green neighborhoods with mature canopies reduce stress, lower blood pressures,

[3:31] and encourage residents to walk and exercise outside. 4. Stormwater and Safety.

[3:38] The massive root systems of these mature trees absorb thousands of gallons of rainwater, removing

[3:46] these mature trees increases the risks of street flooding.

[3:51] Because the newly planted sapling takes decades to provide the same health benefits,

[3:57] I am requesting that the city explore proven engineering alternatives.

[4:01] Number one, I asked the city to share any formal tree health or canopy assessment for the six

[4:10] street and Orleans project.

[4:13] Two, I asked the city to explore the possibilities of narrower grading zone, lower or higher

[4:21] where possible or paths in adjusting curbing to protect root systems of these mature trees.

[4:28] I ask the city to replace any removed mature trees with native saplings at no expense to homeowners.

[4:37] I thank each of you for your time, the meetings, your administrator, Steve, the engineer, Zach, and the park director.

[4:47] Clarence that they've had with me and for this current meeting.

[4:51] I thank you for your time, your dedication to our city of Dell Rapids, and your serious

[4:58] considerate.

[5:02] Sincerely, Salve Larison Hendrixen. And I do have this printed out May I pass this out? May I start with Dean over here?

[5:13] I think there's enough for all of you to take one and then tap around.

[5:17] Thank you very much.

[5:19] Thank you, Solvey.

[5:21] Any other visitors tonight?

[5:25] No one?

[5:27] No one?

[5:29] All right.

[5:34] All right.

[5:35] I'll invite Captain Ziska.

[5:38] Yes, Mayor, I asked Captain.

[5:40] Is this going to come tonight?

[5:42] I mean, it's going to give us an update from the sheriff's office.

[5:46] And he answer any questions you may have.

[5:52] Mayors, and it's Council members, thanks for having me today.

[5:55] My name is Adam Ziske, I'm the Patrol Captain for the Sheriff's Office.

[5:58] I served in that capacity for about the last six years.

[6:03] Not entirely sure what question that you have, but it'd be happy to answer any of them.

[6:08] I work primarily with the City Administrator.

[6:11] I would say that we have contract.

[6:14] Sorry, contact.

[6:16] weekly, if first for sure several times a month, whenever he has a question, we'll get

[6:21] answered pretty promptly. You're striking through me, and that's a change we made

[6:26] because there was some very fine line stuff that we were being asked to enforce, and I wanted

[6:36] to make sure that we were on the same page as far as the city on it, because as I'm still

[6:41] of your talk to you for the last six years,

[6:43] we were trying to do what's right for the entire city.

[6:47] We are trying to do what the city counselors

[6:49] would want us to do.

[6:51] And that's how we make our enforcement decisions.

[6:56] And that's how we spend how we've made our enforcement decisions.

[7:00] So we want to make sure everything was still going

[7:03] according to what we had.

[7:05] Talk to what, or if those needs to change,

[7:07] and that's why I liaison with Steve Rangley.

[7:12] Just so he are where in the last 30 days,

[7:15] there has been 216 calls for service in the city of Daurempids.

[7:19] That's 7.2 calls are just a little more 7 calls a day,

[7:23] and the average of the last 30 days.

[7:26] That's up slightly from about six and a half calls last year,

[7:30] all those same time period with 193.

[7:33] So 216 and from 193 and 225.

[7:36] The year today calls is 1593 that drives with the last 30 days because that's approximately

[7:44] a little over several calls per day.

[7:46] Last year we had 1448 and that was just over six calls a day so we had approximately one

[7:51] more call a day.

[7:53] What are these calls?

[7:54] These calls can be anything, the thing that I didn't include in these numbers was our

[7:58] self-aditiative activity which is traffic stops stopping out with somebody whether it's

[8:04] and we need something, but it's not a call, but it doesn't come from extra dispatch, it comes from

[8:09] our deputy's initiated that contact, which happens quite often within those cities, of the dumb rabbits.

[8:16] The way that we staff is we have two deputies primarily that rotate through the city.

[8:23] The reason that we did that two on days and two on nights, and the reason that we do this is so that there's some familiarity with

[8:30] the deputy and the city and the residents of the city.

[8:34] You might see my deputy is in the last few years on day shift, especially walking down

[8:37] the main street, checking in like the businesses and nights, they're checking doors,

[8:42] one certain businesses, they're making contact with people in the park that you'd contact

[8:46] in.

[8:47] They're looking for people who are in unusual places at unusual times, which I just

[8:52] think, well, we're able to make contact with those people and find out what they're doing.

[8:55] So, a lot of what they're doing is preventative, you pay for the city pays for 23 hours of service a day.

[9:03] I'm proud to tell you that there's multiple deputies up here, you get more and more hours.

[9:09] There's never been a month that's passed in the last six years that we haven't been over time by at least two hours,

[9:15] a set of four, a few February's, which only had 28 days.

[9:19] When that happens, I call Steve's, and I want to know, there's just, it's a mathematical

[9:25] possibility sometimes, but if you added in the hours that our detective bureau works,

[9:30] which is every case that comes out of the door app that's whether it's a drug case or

[9:34] banal is in case, whether it's a drug case or a person crime, those all go to our detectives.

[9:40] In our detective bureau, we have general detectives and we have crimes if the person detectives

[9:45] We have internet, current detectives or I can't detectives.

[9:50] And we have channels that I think I said that.

[9:53] These cases, they go to them.

[9:55] They review every single case and decide whether or not

[9:58] they're saw the ability fact.

[10:00] Here's what we can do to solve these crimes. That's what we're joining the crimes get solved. These hours are not

[10:06] both to the city. They are not reflected in our spreadsheets, because these detectives work on cases from across the county in the same way.

[10:14] Whether you're a contractor, you're not, if there's a crime in the right area, they're not contracted with us. We are going to try and solve that crime.

[10:22] We're not looking to it. What we don't do is we don't spend any contravening time in the right area.

[10:27] because we don't go there, we certainly respond to calls.

[10:30] We might sit there sometimes, looking for suspicious

[10:33] activity and things like that.

[10:35] But they don't contract with us, so they

[10:37] cannot go to a specific lock in time per day.

[10:41] The even there's two contracts that are unique,

[10:45] one is yours because of the amount of powers.

[10:47] The amount of hearts that are getting some money

[10:49] through Friday, deputy, that they pay for.

[10:51] They pay for full time of TV, which is full time and boy,

[10:55] which is the car, and whatever the true cost of that employee is,

[10:59] including over time, they started that simply.

[11:02] You're just going to grant and continue that throughout my,

[11:07] almost my whole entire team are going to at least the last decade.

[11:10] Those are the two unique ones at night.

[11:12] They have the same contract with you.

[11:14] So we're there all night.

[11:16] As soon as that ship comes on, they're out and heartbroken,

[11:19] and that's where they stay.

[11:20] So those are kind of the differences between contracts.

[11:23] the other ones just have, you know, four or six feet hours. We don't specify what time

[11:29] we're going to be there because we don't want people to know exactly what we're going to be there.

[11:35] We kind of are responding to things that are times that people want us there and that's when we show up.

[11:40] But I'd be here if I didn't mention the five S.R. rules, school resource officers that are in each one of our school districts.

[11:46] That, when schools and session that puts a deputy in your time on either Friday typically during school hours before and after working school zones, the city is not charged for that and that person does not charge contract hours, but it's in town.

[12:01] We don't have any contracts within the other schools. We don't have any ammo or anything else we're invited in as guests.

[12:07] This is important because my diabetes can be anywhere during a critical incident.

[12:12] So whether we have a critical incident here in town, or down in Baltic, or in Render,

[12:18] I have five more people that can respond if needed to those emergencies or can cover

[12:23] a contract time.

[12:25] Well, the diabetes who are on the road, go out and take care of those calls, frequently

[12:29] those stay in the schools or around the schools, but there also be available for calls.

[12:33] These find it as a rose are completely subsidized by the taxpayers of the county and it is a kind of a crown jewel.

[12:41] Something that we're really proud of when it comes to our enforcement set up when it comes to our mechanism.

[12:49] Our deputy is getting 36 hours of mandatory training per year.

[12:53] This is 16 hours more than the state minimum and that's a minimum.

[12:58] That's a start that's just in house training.

[13:00] We've done less than a heavily on instructors within the share of softness so that we'll have to spend extra money sending people to instructors.

[13:09] There's a ton of value added there.

[13:11] It makes everybody safer and allows us to have the latest and greatest equipment, which is what I don't know if these need to do this job effectively,

[13:19] to stay in the age with the pace of work and the pace of crime that that happens.

[13:23] We also have a major footprint that's involved.

[13:24] The share of softness has to do all the works and all the civil papers.

[13:28] So if you look at a hot map of all of our locations,

[13:31] who falls really red, who falls not around that's hard for you.

[13:35] But who falls?

[13:35] And people don't realize that.

[13:36] We have to staff a rover in order to be in the city when they're

[13:40] needed to get this done.

[13:42] And then they'll come up with a county in the evening,

[13:44] when they're done trying to serve their stuff.

[13:48] They're doing it in the city or for the city.

[13:52] Other than that, I'm open for any questions that you may have.

[13:57] I know that the new contract loader just went out, reflecting our increase, which is very

[14:06] minimal.

[14:07] That increase is not a true cause either of what it caused us for an FTE.

[14:12] It's about 78% of what an FTE is.

[14:15] The rest of this is subsidized and I think it's important to note that historically we've

[14:20] tried to make these increases as much as possible with larger increases being around that

[14:26] 2021, 2022 timeline, when prices for everything rose and prices continue to rise in our

[14:33] cost continued to rise. But we have made a commitment to keep our services affordable

[14:38] and if you compare it to a city agency where you're providing your equipment training

[14:45] and certifications, I think you'll find that there is really no comparison monetarily.

[14:51] We have been up here for a lot of years and we really enjoy policing the city of Darappitsin.

[14:57] I know for a fact that my one of my deputies is in them.

[15:00] Office every single morning, talk to you about the staff seeing a first and any problems specific to the city that need to be adjusted that day.

[15:08] That's all I can think of to talk about, but probably talk all day, but if there's any questions at the

[15:17] table.

[15:17] Thank you.

[15:19] Yeah.

[15:19] I'll be a couple quick first. Two moment two questions for you.

[15:23] I think I'll be happy to be back. Thank you.

[15:25] Thank you.

[15:26] Thank you.

[15:28] The two questions that I have is if you're not going to offer your gut, because I don't

[15:35] see this research for is agreement that where is before us, you say we're the only one

[15:41] like that, is that the best agreement, is there something different? We should be looking at,

[15:46] what is your comfort, you hear about all the crime, we're not in Sioux Falls, and many

[15:50] hot county, and thankfully now we're at this is is somewhat shielded from some of that.

[15:56] Yeah, so looking long-term, I just want to make sure that we are covered with the best agreement.

[16:01] We've got, you know, second part is what kind of average response time will we see in and don't we?

[16:06] It's great questions.

[16:08] I would say that the type of contact you have right now is the correct one.

[16:12] One thing we do in the summer, one of my assets are always shifts hours.

[16:17] So while summer, you can be here during, well, the rest of my activities aren't breathing at a certain time.

[16:22] So when make sure it's here.

[16:24] So there's no, no, no, there isn't overlapped almost there.

[16:28] So there's very little time where there won't be a WD and does.

[16:31] Even if we have problems going on in Baltic,

[16:34] where it might pull a dull rep, it's person out of dull rep, it's temporarily.

[16:39] Another WD responds to Baltic so that the dull rep at stability can come back as quickly as possible.

[16:44] That's how it would always run that. But in the interest of officer safety and public safety,

[16:49] times, and I would say a lot to this, but sometimes the deputy will leave a town, more still listening

[16:55] to calls or still taking calls, to do a full FTE is challenging, Stephen, I talked it out last year

[17:04] of the year before, and kind of looked at some of those options, but I really don't. Unless we had

[17:09] a resident deputy, one of the states there didn't go back to the office frequently. I think what you

[17:16] this is really good. And like I said, we do more hours than we advertise. So Dell, we're

[17:22] athletes in these two deputies, and that's where you see that in place. And now I got two people,

[17:26] either on two different calls or one incident, and I've got two people. We also rely heavily,

[17:32] if we have EMTs, a lot of our deputies are cross-trained EMTs. So when we go and all of them,

[17:37] well, we go down a lot of the priority medical calls, but we also rely on your guys that's volunteer

[17:42] a firefighter and a firefighter's an ambulance to help us with calls on a daily basis.

[17:49] But I think our contract is correct. I can tell you within confidence what our average response

[17:56] time is what I can tell you is from a 911 call to the time it's actually dispatched

[18:02] is about five nights. And we're on base which are the on base with what they are. So

[18:07] in ten minutes of the night when I'm called going out or as fast as much

[18:10] or can transmit the information, but never very far, never

[18:14] definitely very far away from town, but they're in town.

[18:18] I mean, it could be a minute or two.

[18:25] Any questions?

[18:28] At a question, I'm not trying to put you on the spot here.

[18:33] We are going to be looking at the way to the scene potentially

[18:37] purchasing some of the speed measuring signages as it's curious if you had any thoughts on that.

[18:45] And if so, or if the department does, or if we should be engaging now on this placement and things

[18:51] of that nature, yep, I do. I talked to Steve quite a bit on this, what we tried to do is find

[18:56] grant funding initially from the state. We're investing in a new street trailer that's the one

[19:02] you've seen in town that we move around, what if broke,

[19:05] it didn't really keep in hand, let it explore us.

[19:08] So we have a high-oest panel sign now

[19:09] that tells people's speeds, but it tells them

[19:12] what they are, but it doesn't give us any analytics

[19:15] and you'll be back, which is what we're looking for.

[19:17] So if we may ask me to place it somewhere

[19:19] or Steve does, we can actually get feedback on it.

[19:22] Okay, people are speeding up, this is a problem,

[19:24] or this is not a problem.

[19:26] We are getting on, we will use it here

[19:29] when it's requested in town.

[19:30] But what I've seen in every contract town, and I will say including Valley Springs, although

[19:35] I think it's homemade, there is some version of a speed trailer.

[19:39] It's somewhere in town where they're having problems that's on wheels that they can move or

[19:43] fix to a school zone sign already that's already in place.

[19:48] These signs can get on the internet.

[19:49] They're removable.

[19:50] Your streets to part will be able to take it down and put it on a new pole.

[19:53] It's also powered.

[19:55] I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but I think first what I would look for isn't

[19:59] all this.

[20:00] The solution so that it can be put different places on request they know. Brandon has one and it just travels around from one request to the next.

[20:08] We also keep track of everywhere it's requested. So when we're not in a request, we put it somewhere where it has been requested where we've seen a problem. Just to keep it moving. So we're excited to get our new one, but I do think it's worth this long-home investment relative to your budget problem for these types of signs.

[20:29] I don't think you're getting any running analytics at this time because whatever data you get from it is within your data and the best you could do is kind of tell us what it is.

[20:39] But if that's what you wish to do, then we look at it and take it seriously.

[20:44] It's a huge preventive measure.

[20:46] It works.

[20:47] I can tell you four factors.

[20:48] works I had. We had a 20 mile an hour assignment and Garrett said that didn't tell you what

[20:55] the speed of the bus unless you're going over 20. So if you went over 20, it would turn

[21:00] on and it would say slow down the speed of the 20. And I got a complaint from the resident

[21:04] that it wasn't working. Excellent. No, there's no one's going over 20. And that was the case.

[21:10] So it was working because I had to go test it with my truck. But it was working. And so these things

[21:16] to work, whether it's, I think it's capturing me, or really is, some of them also have

[21:23] the opportunity to have the license plate for years on, and that's not something

[21:26] that we're, and that's the year I know, and for anybody, and that's what I'm going to do.

[21:31] So you can actually stop, or see who's doing the trafficking for action, but we don't

[21:36] do that here in South Dakota.

[21:39] So yes, good.

[21:40] as well.

[21:42] Hey, Captain Zeskin, referenced an ordinance enforcement night, I think you kind of went

[21:46] over at the beginning, but I assume everybody that patrols here is familiar or they go

[21:53] through the ordinances and then the focus becomes if you hear something from a city council

[21:58] or sweep if there's areas we want emphasized.

[22:01] So that's exactly right.

[22:03] So we have your ordinance manually, we also have it uploaded into our central square

[22:07] computer system so we can write paper tickets on our own. I worked with the city years ago to try to fix

[22:14] their finds schedule. We find frequently is if we're enforcing ordinances instead of state statutes

[22:22] it requires that your city lawyer go to court, which you will pay an hourly rate for. It's not

[22:29] in the state attorney anymore. So we do as much enforcement as we can based on state statutes.

[22:35] Many of the ordinances and all the ordinances in all of our contract towns are duplicating state statutes, speed, growing the staff sign, all this stuff.

[22:47] Historically, sometimes I've said no, we want all of our ordinances.

[22:51] Enforce and that's very short-lived, because you're talking about $150 ticket and by the time you get done paying the courts, which currently is $109 for a court trial.

[23:01] plus your attorney, it doesn't work the math, the math, the math, where one value

[23:08] added with the state's, with the sheriff's notice is, you get the use of our state's

[23:12] attorney, and then we go and we test the body on the city's behalf of whatever ordinance we

[23:18] got.

[23:19] What on is this?

[23:20] We do enforce our curfew vehicles that are parked outside of the ordinance, and we

[23:27] to enforce this parking on four street here quite a, but that's gone away and anything else.

[23:34] So there's two ways that we can get alerted to these things one city that's telling us like

[23:39] hey, there's a problem. I got a car over here. Usually the cold enforcement takes care of

[23:43] all of that, but sometimes that works and sometimes it's a resident. So if I get, if we get a call

[23:49] to 900, seeing some research, hey, there's this car just been outside my house for three weeks at

[23:54] Well, we'll come and take it and with an ordinance to take it 10-12. That's a mess. What

[24:00] we need to do that, if that's necessarily what we need to do. So, that's the end of the way we

[24:04] enforce the ordinance. What we don't do is we don't drive around town looking for vehicles to take it.

[24:12] And we don't think that that's an appropriate use of our time, considering I call about it here.

[24:16] We don't think that it's in that. To be proactive and I would probably tell you that y'all

[24:24] side of it, if you go in that kind of model, or we're just looking for parking violations.

[24:31] I personally would just sort of share however, if that's the thing that you've wanted

[24:35] to experiment with, make it certain that you know, go through town and take everyone.

[24:40] But if it is bothering, it's citizen, we take care of it right away, we always have.

[24:47] And most of these parking issues are a matter of perspective.

[24:51] I got a car parked outside my house. It has moved in three weeks.

[24:56] It's not upsetting anybody a block away. It's upsetting me.

[25:00] We'll respond to that, because that's important to us. But we're not just going to drive around and take your cars, and that's the decision that I've made with the city and the prior administration, which is best not something that we would be interested in. We also don't do code enforcement, so if somebody's got to make chickens in their yard or something like that, we're not going to not go under doing that, something the city needs to do. We are primarily looking for criminal action or enforcing criminal statutes, if that makes sense.

[25:31] But if you request it, if I said it's on your request, that's where most of our calls come from, not so much of the city, but citizens, and that's what we say.

[25:41] Captain, I got one thing to turn my question forward, thank you.

[25:49] No, no, no, we have to imagine, Christmas technology, flocked cameras, drones should

[25:55] double-reference in where's the county going with all this technology stuff?

[26:00] Is it something we should be looking at next year or five years, 10 year plan on that stuff?

[26:05] I would say it depends on the national sentiment and what the Supreme Court eventually says about

[26:12] flock because I know I have no doubt that's where it's going into the Supreme Court at least.

[26:18] The state state law lawmakers are going to look at it.

[26:22] Right now we do have flock members.

[26:24] We don't have any any of our contract cities but we invest it in ink.

[26:28] The reason is because two phones has 30 and you can't use them unless you have your own

[26:34] block system and then you can integrate. These block systems have solved crimes that order

[26:40] onsauble will be for. They are a game changer for us. We have a transparency portal that

[26:46] I just do the presentation about these springs, where there's no block cameras, and told them

[26:51] all over the block camera system. It's completely transparent, it's RDF, and I do understand

[26:57] citizens' worries about it. And if the citizens say that we don't want them anymore,

[27:02] we won't have them all over the sheriff's office,

[27:05] started using Flock in June of 2025,

[27:08] without permission from the County Commission,

[27:11] and there's three new stories done.

[27:13] We were as strict as possible,

[27:18] but one thing I will tell you is we won't put any Flock

[27:20] cameras in your town without asking this body first

[27:23] that wouldn't happen.

[27:25] That's a commitment that I can make for however there's so many examples

[27:31] as I could get, but one simple one I'd like to give

[27:34] with the bird, or something, things like that.

[27:37] But we had, I'm sorry, the fenders located,

[27:40] but we had an autistic 16-year-old

[27:42] that had his driver's license.

[27:44] He had some issues that his dad followed

[27:47] for him, so he got on the dash to the end when he got his license.

[27:51] There was a road ready to sit in on six-mile road,

[27:54] or this young man was cut off.

[27:56] It was in the dash, he made it to your retruck

[27:59] with the top or the top.

[28:00] for maybe a minute sort of like which you can really read it.

[28:03] And again, it gets out, and he walks up to me,

[28:05] and I can't even punch it inside of the head,

[28:07] and he goes back to his cart and drives off.

[28:09] No witnesses.

[28:11] So this is a almost-in-solved book.

[28:14] Like if there's no solving ability factors,

[28:17] we're not going to solve it.

[28:18] But with the infected, we're able to do

[28:20] what's the type in retruck with rent hopper,

[28:23] saw that he had a trip to shields,

[28:25] which has their own flock here, and was along with blows.

[28:28] was able to identify that license plate, was able to identify that person based on the

[28:33] BFO, and we were able to make a rest of a man in Minnesota who was called to the 16 year old.

[28:39] The question that we often ask is, it's a hard question, but if you're over trying to

[28:48] statistically, you've been a victim of a crime, hit run, here, cars and vandalized,

[28:53] your house has been vandalized, something has happened to you, and the sheriff's office

[28:56] are in place at the moment they can't figure it out, eight percent of the national average

[29:01] of them, so I'll give you this.

[29:03] We're better than that, but that's the national average, so with flock, we're actually

[29:09] solving these seemingly unsoldable crimes, whether it's petty crime or whether it's a big

[29:16] crime.

[29:17] We have statistics to back that up, it's amazing technology for law enforcement.

[29:22] So, going back to what I was proposing, if you had asked yourself, my house got broken into,

[29:29] you know, years ago, or my car didn't realize years ago, and I never called the person,

[29:32] if we were to solve your crime, using fucked technology, would that be okay with you?

[29:38] And that's a true question.

[29:40] I mean, that's literally what these cameras are doing, they're making the record of the

[29:44] path of your car and the license plate, and they're storing them for 30 days, now it's

[29:49] to be seven days to look like the company literature, and we have specific parameters that

[29:58] we search for and we find that.

[30:02] The other thing it does is it gives real time alerts if you have a wanted sex offender, a suicide was subject, a well-fair check person.

[30:11] Anybody that's been in the national criminal database for whatever reason, whether they're endangered or whether they're committed to crimes, they come into your town, they go past their camera, they can retrieve that information for instance, about 30 seconds, and the deputy here gets another one and does not anticipate this car somewhere you went.

[30:28] to me it's it's keeping with what we are asked to do which is public safety this is

[30:35] an answer in public safety for us for our uses and so that's where I'm not with flock but

[30:41] that's a great question when I do think that technology it also keeps our our deputy count

[30:46] artificially low because we have a lot of leverage technology instead of hiring more to me

[30:50] which is extremely expensive so so if I did happen that would be the sheriff's the county

[30:56] saying, don't wrap it, you need to put these in, or it would be the city, saying, we want

[31:00] to put them in. Either way, we already talked about mechanisms for that. We went down the

[31:05] room. If the cities wanted them, they could ask us and we could figure out what the cost

[31:12] of that is through the city ahead of the contract, could be already.

[31:19] That's what we were

[31:19] trying to do, same with Hartford. There's been many cities out of expressed interest. But

[31:25] Beware because there's a website out there that will show that Valley Springs, just the

[31:29] reason I get a presentation there is because somebody will not line and deflock and put

[31:33] eight cameras in Valley Springs.

[31:36] These cameras aren't sure there would be no value for us to put eight cameras in Valley Springs

[31:40] and so to go on and explain that to them.

[31:42] But I will tell you this, the state has flocked cameras on the air states and the cameras

[31:47] from other vendors and most cities at this point in South Dakota, a lot of major cities

[31:54] And so it's a new technology. I know there's a lot of news about it now, but those opinions, again, if the people don't want those cameras, we don't want those cameras.

[32:05] But that's not a decision for me.

[32:07] At this time, I do think there'll be more litigation on it.

[32:10] What sounds like money directly wants to do something.

[32:13] Chimps and laws that make sure more safe cards in place.

[32:17] We have 30 days that we do audits.

[32:20] not every 30 days we have ongoing 30 days audit control. So we look at all the reasons

[32:27] people run them and why and it's updated in real time. It also has the safeguards that

[32:33] will just give us alerts if we have WP's handling it. I've seen these new stories. It's the same

[32:39] as body camps. If somebody's misusing the technology, I'll be the first to fire them and

[32:46] keep them if necessary. That's not something that we tolerate.

[32:49] Sure, something we never have.

[32:51] I shouldn't be tolerating your perspective on our law enforcement.

[33:01] Do you have any idea how many types of deputies would have made contact with

[33:06] some of our youth in this community to just do some safety chats with them?

[33:14] I tell them.

[33:14] Excuse me.

[33:17] Misssters?

[33:19] Generally crossing the street, navigating our community.

[33:22] Wherever that happens to be.

[33:24] I don't.

[33:24] I don't know if I'm statistics on that, um, because it if it's not, there's not as

[33:28] specific code for it, um, before in our timestamp.

[33:31] What I will tell you is that the different years are

[33:33] in structure to give that education when they did.

[33:37] Um, so if they see something super-uncing, they, they're making contact.

[33:41] with those kids, our common kids and your models, youth, it's not always youth, we had a bad

[33:49] accent, I've been a Garetson that was a 17 year old, I think you ran right in front of a moving vehicle with the

[33:54] scooter and just very sexy with this, but it's like we see examples of this quite a bit. Unfortunately,

[34:02] these scooters are the newest iteration of a bicycle of any bike, whatever, it's cheap, it's fun

[34:10] and pass the body is what we see a huge deficiency in is education at the home.

[34:15] There is no way law enforcement can quote unquote solve this problem, but we try to do

[34:20] the education.

[34:20] There is an ordinance which I think Hartford is done when they're bookring on.

[34:25] I know they are because I'm going to speak with them and then Brandon has a really good

[34:30] one in place that I'm sure we see and actually coming back in on Thursday to talk more

[34:34] about the policy ordinance.

[34:35] Seconds are definitely a little bit more to be able to stop these kids and talk with them.

[34:42] Some parents don't like it.

[34:44] They're talking to kids unfortunately, but that is our job and we do it.

[34:48] We do it and we do it well.

[34:50] And if they're done enough, we gotta stick your whole rat.

[34:51] We've also handed out helmets in the past here in Dahlwrap.

[34:54] It's, in fact, we handed out helmets for four years and a part part.

[34:58] Oh, maybe that.

[35:00] So, yes, we do it. I can't give it the next second.

[35:04] So, I'm the chairman for a second. One thank you for donating the truck in the deputy of the library, touch a truck event last week.

[35:12] And anytime I've seen your deputies out, they're always doing a fantastic job. So, thank you.

[35:17] The kids really did like, you know, being able to touch the truck.

[35:21] I was going to mention we are talking about that by coordinating time. I'm going to be meeting this week on that.

[35:26] And so just like Chad asked, if you had any input on the signage, do you like Brandon's

[35:31] ordinances, that one would you tweak that in any way or you're like, I kind of like this

[35:36] and this is pretty solid.

[35:37] There's a really solid, it's based on the state law and it's really easy to identify the violations.

[35:47] They are in an educational mode, they don't give tickets to these kids.

[35:50] It's really warm to harder repeat offenders, but it gives them a chance to make the traffic

[35:57] stop and stop both these kids and get touch of the event.

[36:01] So is that how that's how I envision it, that you would just, it starts with conversation,

[36:05] we have an ordinance, but it's conversation is conversation unless you see something repeated

[36:10] or you'd just, and that's when it would move to the next level if you will reach out to parents

[36:16] then.

[36:17] No, I think it depends on the situation, but I think reaching out to parents is something

[36:22] in a town like this. We love about it and every summer, but it can always call the parents.

[36:27] Perfue violation drop call violations to lack of violations.

[36:31] Violations, because we've seen that we're running, staff sends all of your town with a scooter,

[36:36] a four-wheeler. These juvenile offenses can typically be stopped or curtailed by the

[36:45] so aren't parenting that people do once law enforcement gets involved because a lot of times they don't know

[36:50] exactly what their kids are up to but people in doubt wrap this trust this when we tell them hey

[36:56] this is what we thought of. So I'm not saying it's the first thing we jumped to but it

[37:00] really helps us a lot in our law enforcement and it's a chance for education for both.

[37:05] If my daughter's around doing me that I want to know for sure and that's kind of how we do it so it

[37:11] just depends on the violation and the gravity of the situation, but we find it extremely

[37:18] effective, just like if a neighbor calls me and said, hey, there's a move set and every day

[37:24] I have to go to close past my house, I talk to SRO, and he's most likely that's little Kent Smith.

[37:32] Kent Smith looks at this address on Sunday SRO over there, or also in a deputy over there to

[37:36] talk to your friends and then. Nine times out of ten of that fixes the problem immediately,

[37:40] It doesn't require a citation, and it's one of those personal things that we can do that we feel is

[37:45] way more impactful than anything else that we could do.

[37:49] I'll do it for the night.

[37:50] Let's take it.

[37:51] The reality is, most juveniles, if they get it, take it because you drive the 14-year-old,

[37:54] their parents are on the hook.

[37:57] So we kind of weigh that in a little bit.

[37:59] No, you can constantly get them in trouble.

[38:01] They're going to get their incitations.

[38:04] That's what we love about our talents.

[38:08] And then last question, when Sheriff Nell said it came frequently, I would always ask what's the annual problem of the year, and it's been messed before.

[38:19] And so is there a problem of the year that you've noticed or any changes?

[38:25] No, as Sheriff talk a lot about fentanyl, we're not seeing fentanyl as much due to the restrictions at the border.

[38:33] So less and less is getting in, or I'm sorry, less fentanyl, methamphetamine is still probably a primary problem, and I can tell you it's still accounts for the most deaths, which I think you're part of last year, which people would think that's fentanyl, but a long time metabuse can lead to death as well, because the frequency of using it is so much higher than he'll be able to fentanyl, that's what we see nationally, there are some even worse things.

[38:59] And then, finally, like cart fat mall, some synthetic staggered circulating, but we have not seen that in our area.

[39:07] Properly coming, it's too close continues to be a major issue.

[39:11] We see some of that aggravating, more people are smashing windows now to access cars,

[39:16] and stuff, just checking doors and things like that.

[39:20] That continue to be on the radar.

[39:22] But as far as drugs, it's still primarily, I would say, my thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin.

[39:27] There's very little tracking on marijuana,

[39:29] but marijuana in the United States

[39:31] is supposed to take it at use.

[39:33] And so it's hard to, it's hard to enforce laws

[39:38] that the people don't agree with.

[39:41] We see a marijuana, we still charge felony,

[39:48] marijuana cases, but no one goes to jail

[39:50] for simple possession of marijuana in the state.

[39:52] So to go to the United States,

[39:53] you get a citation and you get marijuana taken away.

[39:56] But everything else, let's get more results in.

[40:00] And the situation in the state of the Court, which we're happy to talk with.

[40:06] Math and vetting does not hide in the two phones area. Unfortunately, it did affect anybody, whether you're

[40:14] well, not for anybody, or you're dirt or whether you're in the real community here, or whether you live in the city.

[40:21] Unfortunately, once you start, it's almost impossible to stop and it just devastates lives very quickly.

[40:30] So, we continue to see that as a lot of driving force for some of our trying linked to crime directly,

[40:37] theft and the property crime is almost always related to methamphetamine, or the use of hard drives,

[40:43] because the people need drugs, they need money to buy the drugs, and so they commit a crime as a means to an end,

[40:50] take to get their drugs. And that's the absolute reality of it. We see every day. Unfortunately,

[40:55] it's hard to untoward those things. So it's hard for people to understand why these people

[40:59] are getting incarcerated all the time through drugs or the same drugs. But we literally have

[41:03] people that in suit falls very young. That'll get arrested like three times for possession of

[41:08] nothing fun to mean. And then the fourth time they're arrested for like an assault. So I have these

[41:15] three times they're out, even though they have three criminal cases, panic felony criminal cases

[41:20] and they're out and they're committing assault. Now the judge holds on for that person

[41:24] of crime. Holds on and told their trial and they will all of the felony cases into one.

[41:30] One big case, and that's all they're prosecuted. And it's so common. I mean, three is probably

[41:34] the one that we're, and tell you that my own offense, we don't see a lot of people standing in jail

[41:41] for control substances, and that doesn't help because it's so addictive when they're on the

[41:46] street unfortunately, they're going to commit crimes to access these drugs. That's

[41:52] the problem you see. No, not a lot of optimism there, but I definitely see what's seen over

[41:57] those that's down. I can't give you an exact number, but we're very happy with that because

[42:02] they have to be making this country over since 21 has been completely out of here. And I've talked

[42:08] about it being actually navigated by law enforcement and first responders to be sub-Narkin.

[42:15] So Narkin is an antidote to opioids.

[42:18] I, as a sergeant on the road, had three people that were dead, and I was able to carry out

[42:24] them with Narkin.

[42:25] We don't get life-saving orders for because some of our deputies have four or five city cops

[42:30] definitely have two or three or four saves under their boat with this Narkin, and that's just

[42:35] the cops in this area.

[42:37] Without the use of that drug, I think that the number in order us, that's worth it much higher than 2021-22.

[42:43] So the state provides us with that for free, and we use it frequently all of the work that can be scared in our account.

[42:49] Do we have the NARC hand and don't wrap it here?

[42:53] It's legal to possess.

[42:55] I think you can get that at a pharmacy if you wanted to buy it.

[42:57] Well, what I used to do, we don't see falls.

[43:00] We have in all of our emergency caps.

[43:02] Yeah, Kevin, it's Narky, I'm for you, so I just didn't know, for example, if somebody came in and needed it, I don't know.

[43:10] I don't know.

[43:11] I know the deputy is scary.

[43:12] I know the first responders in town care.

[43:15] But I know Emily's hope would be on the way for free.

[43:17] And the machines have put it in the way to something we want to look at for and don't.

[43:20] That's her too.

[43:21] We definitely keep them.

[43:23] We hope not can't too.

[43:24] And certain spots like at the fair.

[43:26] That's what we brought them for there for the fair.

[43:28] We weren't handing it out.

[43:30] I don't know if it's like a personal or anything, but we were.

[43:32] How did I understand my case when I

[43:38] did it?

[43:39] All right, I know you have a lot to do.

[43:39] Thank you very much for coming.

[43:41] Thank you for coming and thank you for all you do for our city.

[43:45] Okay. Have a great night.

[43:47] Moving on, public hearing and resolution of 2026-20, new malt beverage and south Dakota farm wine.

[43:55] For flood, J and J, limited liability companies.

[44:00] owner or Jennifer and Jen I think are here if you have any questions for

[44:05] the owner of Club J&J LLC during business as pocket ace as casino applied for retail

[44:11] on-off, malt beverage and sales but a farm line. The location is at 4 on 9 North Highway

[44:16] 77. You'll approve the resolution in 2026-2020 which allows the finance officer

[44:22] mayor to enter in the one year operating agreement for the malt beverage license.

[44:26] There's not only that I'm all beverage, so

[44:31] this point I'll entertain a motion.

[44:34] So, this is our second.

[44:38] Second.

[44:39] We have a motion made by Jones, seconded by Ron Sagan, is any further discussion?

[44:46] Hearing none of those in favor of today, I'm opposed to me.

[44:52] Motion carried will be on consent agenda.

[44:56] I'll entertain a motion.

[44:58] So moose.

[44:59] Desire.

[45:00] May 2nd, second, a motion by tabi jellie, second invite jones for the consent agenda, all those in favor, I'm sorry, any further discussion? All those in favor say aye.

[45:11] By aye, by aye, vote's nay motion, caring, moving on old business, contract review for visit del rapids.

[45:20] Mayor, I'll kick the song up. Excuse me. Descerace here, I'm sure she's going to have something to say that I'll just kick the soft on.

[45:28] And in the August 3rd Council meeting, Council approved a working relationship with Desiree

[45:35] and Desiree.

[45:35] As staff was directed to bring back a proposed contract for you, which is attached

[45:40] from your packet, the reason I brought it back in the next meeting is we had talked about

[45:45] four months at $2,000 a month, and there's only four months left in the year, so we're trying

[45:50] to get it.

[45:51] I share a budget and get going.

[45:55] I put the contract together with Health from City Attorney Hammer,

[46:00] and with Desiree Desiree and I had lots of discussions

[46:03] and I had a few as well.

[46:07] There have been a couple of discussion topics

[46:13] that Council is going to have to deliberate

[46:15] that we're the primary one is that this contract

[46:21] under Article 6 asks that Desiree make her service available to all residents, citizens,

[46:30] because it's probably money. My opinion it's hard to argue that it should just be

[46:36] used for a select fee. Desiree did make comments in the last meeting, and she has got a business

[46:43] to run and it has some concerns about that and all that are spoofed more over to that.

[46:52] But that's about it.

[46:53] So other than that, I think we're pretty good agreement on the kind of track.

[46:56] You'll notice there's no requirement in there.

[46:58] Any more for Desire to become a 501C3 because we're contracting with our business.

[47:03] So there's no need for that.

[47:05] Desire and I worked out what some good measure metrics would be.

[47:09] I can't make her come up with metrics that dumb exists.

[47:11] And so she made some suggestions we're seeing good to me.

[47:16] So really what remains is just the scope of who should provide these services to.

[47:22] So it does right.

[47:24] And we think to that and you can ask questions.

[47:27] Yep.

[47:28] So it does react more and visit Dell Rapids and first of all, just thank you for giving

[47:33] the opportunity to be up here and to be having this conversation and like Steve spoke

[47:38] about, well first, I've provided the, you should have your scope of work and what will be measuring

[47:45] I've provided those documents to Steve so hopefully those are in your packet.

[47:50] And then I also wanted to talk about, I put in there for sales tax to be watched and I am,

[47:57] I'm going to do that, but I just wanted to note that I know we're going to see a dip in our sales

[48:03] tax because pins isn't operational and fall time is when they would have been kicking it

[48:10] in gear.

[48:11] And so I think a better measurement for this success of this is obviously the measurements

[48:16] where, you know, we're knowing how many email subscribers, what are open rates are, what

[48:20] are click through rates are, but really just the general feedback from the businesses that are

[48:25] on the website and the morale and feedback from the residents have already received messages

[48:29] from people that are excited that there's something kind of in one email where they can click on

[48:35] things and go immediately to RSVP or to sign up for the class or things like that.

[48:40] So, and then the two things, there are two things in the contract that I just wanted to clear

[48:44] up and just how to handle some things. And so article four is the payment and it speaks about

[48:52] about paying after the fact and me sending an invoice which I can produce an invoice.

[49:00] But as far as the money is going to be used to fund the advertising.

[49:06] And so I can't necessarily fund that money and then get repaid.

[49:11] And so I'm wondering maybe if we could just if we could leave the verbiage the way that it is and maybe the first

[49:16] In voice that I send is like our baseline, I mean that could be the performance report that I give you of where we're at, you know, currently before we start actually running the advertising with the city, so I don't know necessarily how we handled that, but that was one of the things that I was concerned about.

[49:32] And then how Steve mentioned about the business participation, every business can participate, but I'm not going to automatically add businesses onto the website.

[49:42] they just have to want to participate, I'm not gonna force anyone to do that, and, you know,

[49:47] since we are funding for just the four months and we don't necessarily know where we're going

[49:52] from here, you know, before, you know, the meetings before it was a membership, they website just

[49:59] as

[50:00] The Chamber is as well. And so I won't just take the time to put everybody's thing on there. So if they want, you know, we've had a couple of people join recently and if you want to join great, fantastic, but if they don't, that is their proactively. So just to maybe re-word that a little bit, because I'm not just going to put everybody on there.

[50:20] And yeah, so once we get those two things kind of worked out or if there's any other questions or concerns or or things like that, I'm just looking forward to getting started. I've already seen positive like I said feedback and the businesses that are on the website currently are excited to get started and.

[50:39] Does it really look first?

[50:42] I basically I guess what you said.

[50:44] A whole hard way that the start up fronting the costs and the delay between you getting bills

[50:52] spending the money getting reimbursed, it could be a burden.

[50:56] I also agree with the businesses perhaps need to have not a buy-in, but they need to express

[51:05] an interest.

[51:05] So I think at one time I did a search of Del Rathlete's businesses,

[51:10] correctly, for a month, I think it came up with 152, 200 businesses in Del Rathlete,

[51:13] and I look at it in a no way, but it counts every home business.

[51:18] So a lot of them may not want to be on there, and we perhaps should not just put them on

[51:22] as a blanket, so we'll have to have some way of polling the businesses to find out.

[51:28] And I believe May I receive whatever list perhaps a registered businesses in the city

[51:35] limits that they have to ask. I don't know how that would play out but when I just don't

[51:43] want it to be I'm all about fairness and integrity and so there's people that have paid

[51:48] to be on the website and so to put I'm kind of struggling with that because because if you

[51:53] guys decide you know hey we're not going to fund it anymore then what happens to those

[51:59] businesses that we put on there for, you know, no cost or what not. So.

[52:04] Well, as you see that, I'm a lot of websites and it's different levels of sponsorship

[52:09] on participation. Sure. You know, your goal members and your platform members or whatever.

[52:14] So I think there's a way of maybe highlighting the paid versus the non paid.

[52:18] I don't. Yeah. I mean, we could figure something out.

[52:22] And with that too, though, doesn't it? You started this without, you know, original.

[52:28] Port of what's backing from the city right this was your idea and you ran with it again enthusiasm

[52:34] I love it, but then you reached out and had businesses pay the membership fee so that we came up with a possible alternative

[52:44] This contract and now we're saying hey, we're going to do this and use the city name and city funding we want to open to anybody that wants it like

[52:56] Like Brian said, you know, I sell Norwex or something and I don't but yeah, I don't I don't want to be on it, right, you know, but

[53:05] I don't think we should

[53:08] Limit and say no you have to pay because

[53:10] Fair because we should never use the word fair to be equal first of all. Okay. Oh, yeah, but

[53:17] a membership platform or something but

[53:21] I guess I just I just I just don't know if I'm still

[53:24] 100% back behind this yet, I'm being fully transparent with you.

[53:33] I guess where I'm struggling a little bit because I like the idea that I know we need to promote.

[53:40] It's the membership piece or maybe the different levels.

[53:44] I think you brought up gold and platinum.

[53:46] If we, if we're now putting in city tax dollars, then I think it's just,

[53:53] Are you still thinking that you're going to have a model on there of additional membership fees from certain businesses and they're going to get more promotion than another business?

[54:04] I guess that's my question.

[54:06] Well, I have right now, there's just two levels.

[54:09] There's not two levels.

[54:10] There's just a nonprofit level and there's a for-profit business.

[54:15] and each person has the opportunity to send me their events

[54:19] and they're on the directory page and on the Quiz Results page.

[54:25] And so there's that equal, regardless of if you're a nonprofit or a for-profit business,

[54:31] you still have the opportunity to do that.

[54:33] I will say, I understand the apprehension.

[54:39] But and and I don't like going back to the chamber all the time because but it's been a conversation where I've just been kind of we're like, okay, which one what are you going here.

[54:49] But it's it's kind of along the same lines of you funding the chamber in the past to pay for different things and they have a membership to where everybody is not on that website.

[54:59] I mean, I'm not a.

[55:00] And just like the giving money for quarry days, that's not going to benefit every business. Every business doesn't get a change. I mean, we can pay dispenser, but every business isn't automatically put in the packet to be promoted. And so going back to equal, you know, it's the same thing, you know, to where, yes, I charge a membership be so do they, but there still have been city taxpayer dollars that have been used to help them.

[55:32] But also with the chamber, and again, this is not personal, you know, you know, I've had great conversations.

[55:40] Chamber is established, and yes, I've stuck my neck out for them in the past, and I question somethings too.

[55:46] But right now we're dealing with something new, and yes, I know, new isn't always bad. I'm well aware of that.

[55:53] But this is a lot of money, and yes, the city wants to promote and encourage business.

[56:01] to happen in the office, yes, of course, more people to come to our town and come to our businesses,

[56:06] but at the same aspect as business owners, the city is not responsible to quote and quote,

[56:15] lack of better terms veiled them out on marketing either. Sure, if marketing isn't working for them,

[56:22] it is business responsibility, okay, this is what we're carrying you to do something else. So that's

[56:28] I feel like I don't know if that should be the city funding all that if that makes sense.

[56:37] No, that makes sense.

[56:37] And I think where I think the issue is and this is what I had the problem I was trying

[56:41] to solve is having a collective funnel, right?

[56:45] So if Norris is posting something, I'm posting something that locals posting something.

[56:50] It's just hard to know everything that's going on.

[56:52] And so I wanted one umbrella, one funnel and granted it's not necessarily the city's

[56:57] but that's how we get our sales tax money is from businesses.

[57:01] And so I think that it is part of the city's responsibility to help out in a little bit.

[57:06] I mean, yes, $8,000 to some people is a lot of money,

[57:10] but there have been bigger amounts given away for less of results.

[57:15] And so I just look at it that way.

[57:19] I mean, what is the other plan?

[57:21] You know, does anyone else have a plan to help kind of bring in some more sales tax, especially because we're getting ready to take a hit here?

[57:29] Because pins is, you know, obviously like I said before, it pins is not operational.

[57:33] And Desiree, it's, it's pretty far from wrong, but I think it wasn't the original concept of visit to our app is also to promote city functions like come to our part.

[57:44] That's what I was going to say, a traditional convention in Visitor's Bureau is going to highlight all of the city's assets.

[57:52] It's not necessarily here are the businesses that there are other entities that that is the focus.

[58:00] Again, I'm having hard time understanding this bleeding between everything.

[58:05] And in a small tone, it should probably either be all.

[58:09] You're doing all those under one umbrella.

[58:14] Bigger cities divide them out and have that focus. Again, a traditional visitor is going to be like,

[58:22] here's what's going on. Go to Sioux Falls. That's right. For example, if you're coming in the town,

[58:27] yeah, there's links to available places to stay, things like that. There's calendar events, things of that nature.

[58:33] Sure. It's more just highlighting what to do as more so. And have the kinds of, like thus the name, this don't wrap it.

[58:44] Right. And I do have those on there. So I do have the pool. I have the park. I have the suit trail. I have.

[58:51] You know, we can get the riverside, the pavilion, all the things the campground is on there.

[58:57] So there are those other facets as well, but the main thing is I just I want people to come to their app is and obviously because I'm a business owner and I'm support the businesses and they can go to the park too, but the park doesn't make us any money if somebody just goes to sits on the bench, you know, and a lot of our conversations have been about money and cutting funding and cutting this and cutting that why do we have to cut why don't we just make more money.

[59:21] I guess I will order it harder to disagree. I think part of the organic life of our city is that people would want to come up here on visit and they would potentially stop and get gas and find something.

[59:36] we have the public, I think highlighting things like that, people would want to come and do that,

[59:42] highlighting that you can go off, highlighting that we could have baseball tournaments.

[59:46] Sure.

[59:47] That does provide a boost to any injection into our economy.

[59:52] So I don't think that should be minimized.

[59:53] I think those are important things.

[59:56] So the visiting for recreation, I think is...

[59:59] Well, no, I'm not...

[1:00:00] So, obviously, there will be that domino to where if they do come into town for the park, I'm not saying that the park is useless, but I'm saying if we have it to where we are gathering the premise, because I don't know if you've listened to the other meetings, but things that I've said, but getting people on email is so I can promote the baseball tournament, or in different things, because people, for the most part, don't have time to scroll, or post don't last, or on social media.

[1:00:30] for depending heavily on social media

[1:00:33] and not necessarily being in boxes

[1:00:37] or in cell phones and things of that nature.

[1:00:40] One of the things that a note of, I don't know,

[1:00:44] not caution, but the metrics that we're gonna measure

[1:00:48] will ultimately shape what she does.

[1:00:53] It's just human instincts that she's gonna be measured

[1:00:55] and determines she's successful based on sales tax.

[1:00:58] sales tax comes from businesses, so she's going to want to promote businesses to make the numbers look good.

[1:01:04] So we got the curve on the metrics that we're presenting as well and how we're going to measure this

[1:01:09] to this whole effort.

[1:01:12] The other thing that I have it throughout, and I promise I'll be quite in the issue.

[1:01:18] As Steve mentioned, we've got four months left.

[1:01:22] I think the airplanes are going to start doing a few old days to land this airplane eventually.

[1:01:28] That said, I'll entertain emotions.

[1:01:42] I'll make a motion to prove the confessional service agreement that was presented to us as written.

[1:01:54] We have a motion to present.

[1:01:57] I'm sorry, it's fine.

[1:01:58] I'm going to set two, except we're going to reconsider.

[1:02:01] Now, the contract reveal with visit dealt with.

[1:02:04] It's there, second.

[1:02:13] Hearing nine.

[1:02:17] I'm just going to say I think I don't think the idea is dead. I think it just needs

[1:02:23] some more time to fully bake it and continue working on this. In my opinion, that's

[1:02:28] where I'm at. I think this needs to be like a negative like I think. No, I don't think it

[1:02:35] has a negative. Personally, I'm very, I'm a small business owner. I get it. I'm a supportive

[1:02:40] of this. How we do this though is important. I think you're right. We have probably gotten some

[1:02:45] of it wrong in the past. So how we do this better in the future is important. Yeah, for sure.

[1:02:53] I agreed. You know and I said this when I first came up here that I'll keep it moving and you know

[1:02:59] I know that it's a great idea and even if you don't necessarily think this that's all right.

[1:03:04] My validation doesn't come from the city council. So I will come back and you guys will see it

[1:03:09] and see how great it is and you know that's that'll be that. Thank you very much. Thank you.

[1:03:15] Moving on, all business reconciner in the 2027 budget request of oops.

[1:03:21] You're on our, I'll take this off before before John is going to come up to speak before he does.

[1:03:27] This is a we have to go through a process to re-open a decision made by the governing body.

[1:03:38] And what happens is you have to, let's see here, let me look at my notes, there is a motion,

[1:03:46] a process of reconsidering a motion.

[1:03:48] So what has to happen is whoever was in favor, voted in favor of the prevailing side,

[1:03:56] last time, and specifically that's the end of Wendy Chuck and Dingy Thomas like was here,

[1:04:02] has to say, I would like to, we're going to correct you from the

[1:04:05] lawyer statement, you have to say, like to, I'm reconsidered the motion, and if that

[1:04:11] motion is pretty, then you can, John, get speaking, you can consider if you want to

[1:04:17] give anything to loops in 2020 or something, but

[1:04:23] I'll make the motion to reconsider.

[1:04:26] Is that a thing for loops?

[1:04:30] Yeah, I'm sure.

[1:04:35] I'll second time.

[1:04:37] We have a motion on the table from Jones section by Cavageli to reconsider the 2027 budget request for loops.

[1:04:51] Any further discussion?

[1:04:53] All in favour? All in favour? I'm sorry.

[1:04:57] Bye. Bye.

[1:05:03] Please manage, use the position, yes.

[1:05:04] Alright. Motion carried to reconsider.

[1:05:08] Alright, my, I'm sorry if we, I felt, felt, felt soy all the hope, right.

[1:05:13] Okay.

[1:05:13] Anyway there was some delays there sometimes, why I make sure.

[1:05:16] Sorry.

[1:05:24] At this point, sure.

[1:05:27] At this point, yes. Please come to Sit on.

[1:05:32] I'm sorry.

[1:05:32] I, I had brought a few slides, just to help kind of guide my conversation tonight.

[1:05:36] Jump moment 7 for team, these 7 street on behalf of all the opera players.

[1:05:41] And I appreciate the opportunity to be able to talk to you a little bit tonight, answer some questions as you reconsider.

[1:05:46] Our second request of 2027.

[1:05:48] If it doesn't come up I can talk through it, but that's a really good photo, so that's all good.

[1:06:03] It's in my hand at daily Google Sides for all the presentations.

[1:06:20] That's okay.

[1:06:22] That's okay.

[1:06:23] That's okay.

[1:06:23] That's right, so basically what I want to do is just talk about just my three things.

[1:06:27] One is just a scope of what we're looking to do in 2027.

[1:06:32] We have a year, eight months of programming that we're planning on doing in 2027.

[1:06:39] The idea or the goal is to hopefully do something yet within adult performance,

[1:06:43] a community performance here, yet this winter.

[1:06:46] And there are some hurdles to that happening that I'll get to a later.

[1:06:49] But if it doesn't happen this winter, we're looking at January, February,

[1:06:52] putting on a show for the involves adult community members. Introducing our programming in January

[1:07:00] for the summer. Opening up registration for our youth programming in the summer and

[1:07:05] excuse me in January, we felt like we missed out in some participants because we were a little bit

[1:07:09] behind in opening that for this last year. April May, excuse me, May and June would be

[1:07:18] another summer youth musical, looking to do it in coordination with

[1:07:23] Corridis Weekend again. In July, looking to do a pair of week day camps for youth

[1:07:30] and grades one through four, and then in August, looking to do a community

[1:07:36] musical, so something for people of all ages, bringing kind of looking more like

[1:07:41] what old opera's players did in the past. So all told, in terms of week's

[1:07:45] programming and I'll focus mainly just on you because that's where the funding request comes in.

[1:07:51] We're looking at approximately eight to nine weeks of programming for kids next summer.

[1:07:58] I wish I could show you the budget numbers. That's okay.

[1:08:02] The budget that we have proposed for 2027 as an organization is around $35,000.

[1:08:07] And that includes royalty fees.

[1:08:11] The play that we did this last summer was about $2,000 and adult play, you can double

[1:08:15] that.

[1:08:15] If we do three, that's why I'm coming up for $70,000, that includes rental of space, which

[1:08:24] I'll get to in a second, includes rental of microphones and lights, it includes sets and

[1:08:30] props, and all the things go along with play.

[1:08:32] I won't shy away from the fact that part of our funding is to pay the people to do the youth

[1:08:38] programming.

[1:08:41] You know, when we look at Etonine Weeks, people working with kids for several hours a day,

[1:08:46] it's a lot of orders and we feel that as an organization, that's something that we want to support.

[1:08:50] And so that is a part of our budget request.

[1:08:54] Some of the furgles that we're looking at, honestly, is a place to perform.

[1:08:59] It's unclear, we're unclear what availability is there's going to be at the Old Outer House.

[1:09:04] Above El Mascale, we're not sure if that's available to us yet.

[1:09:08] or what that will cost.

[1:09:10] This last year we did not have to pay anything

[1:09:12] for microphones, for lights, or for a space to perform.

[1:09:15] That will change in 2027.

[1:09:18] The school is adopting a different ruler.

[1:09:23] What do we want to call it?

[1:09:25] Require us to tap A to use the space.

[1:09:27] That's just a change.

[1:09:28] And that will be a sizable amount of money.

[1:09:32] With those of you who cost,

[1:09:33] that we did not necessarily have to incur

[1:09:35] the last year that we will in 2027.

[1:09:37] I've looked at what it would cost even to rent a tent to go down into the park like we used

[1:09:42] to do it back in the day and even that is around with lights and sound and the tent and

[1:09:48] the staging and the walls of the tent to have a cool stuff.

[1:09:51] You're looking at around $79,000 for something like that, for one play, for one week.

[1:09:58] I wish the I don't have my numbers.

[1:10:01] The big thing though is just the three things that I mentioned before, when we spoke. One really proud of what the kids did this last year. You know, for six weeks for six weeks, we met with the kids and they did an awesome job after they're there after they're there.

[1:10:18] I'm practicing for that time. The show that they put on that and I know the mayor was there. I don't know if anybody else was there.

[1:10:25] But this is coming from someone I've worked with kids and we just can theater for 30 years, right?

[1:10:29] It's my bread and butter, it's what I do.

[1:10:31] And I will say I'll put that play in that performance up anything that I've been a part of in those 30 years.

[1:10:36] They really did a great job.

[1:10:37] I know you had a chance to hear from some of them a couple weeks ago,

[1:10:40] and I'm so glad that they were able to share some of their experience with you.

[1:10:44] We are really proud of what we did.

[1:10:47] Two, we are really proud, we're thankful for the support that the community gave us,

[1:10:50] whether that was through business sponsorships or through the city

[1:10:55] that we cannot say thank you enough for all of that. And lastly, we are, you know, we are thankful

[1:11:01] for any and all support that we get from from the city and other sponsors should move forward.

[1:11:06] We want this to be something that continues to grow. I've been asked, you know, is you know, is the old

[1:11:11] doctor, hospital, is eventually you're going to get to the point where, you know, you want to have to come to the city

[1:11:15] to ask for funding. That the answer to that is yes, and I think we're on our way there.

[1:11:20] But I also think that I'm pretty confident just in the conversations that I've had with some of my council members that even when we do get there that the city will look for ways to support community theater.

[1:11:33] However, that may look whether that is helping us find a place to form, helping us solve some of the different hospitals that are going to be that we may have in terms of fundraising.

[1:11:45] have some big ideas on some things, but we hope that even when we are able to cover our

[1:11:50] operational costs, then again, I think we're on our way there, we're well on our way there,

[1:11:55] that the city will still be a partner with us, because we want this to be a true community

[1:12:00] project, a community opportunity for summer enrichment program for kids, that has the support

[1:12:08] of the city. I had a great last picture. You're just going to have to imagine it, but it was a good one of the kids in the parade with the questions underneath.

[1:12:17] Are there any questions for me at all? I'm happy to answer the best my ability.

[1:12:23] How many youth participate John?

[1:12:25] But this last year we had a wrong 40.

[1:12:28] I anticipate that never to grow. For a first time out, you know, if I judge it's the way I would as a teacher, you know, first time you do something, you're going to have

[1:12:37] You're not going to get everybody out that you made, that you may be all down the road.

[1:12:42] And so for the first year, I was really happy with 40.

[1:12:44] I know that we heard from a number of kids that said, hey, we did no enough time,

[1:12:47] or we had already signed up to basketball camp, or we're doing this or that.

[1:12:50] And that's why we're opening up registration as early as we can in January.

[1:12:54] And then with the addition of those two, the two weeks in July,

[1:12:58] we're going to capture some kids that wanted to prepare to participate this year,

[1:13:01] but because of our aid restrictions, they were not able to.

[1:13:04] So I would, I would optimistically say that at least doubles for next summer, what are they just again?

[1:13:11] So this last year we did grades four through eight, and then next summer looking at grades one through eight.

[1:13:17] And one shaker and other to be a person.

[1:13:19] And I heard you write, you don't have a place to perform? Not a lot.

[1:13:22] And then, no.

[1:13:24] Ideally, I mean, realistically it's probably going to be back at the school, just with the new rules that they have in place.

[1:13:32] It's going to cost us a per day or a per hour that's going to run.

[1:13:37] I think I had around $2,500 to $3,000 dollars.

[1:13:41] If we were there for one week, no, we were there for two weeks.

[1:13:44] We did most of our workers left and we turned shirts in the basement.

[1:13:47] And whether this body decides or doesn't decide to provide funding.

[1:13:53] You make up the difference of the 35 or 70,000 through sponsorships and fundraising.

[1:13:59] We are, who's going to take place next summer?

[1:14:01] Well, well, the scope of boobs will depend on what we have to be able to talk to a forward, but yes, we received roughly about, I don't have the numbers in front of it, I apologize, but we had fantastic sponsorship from businesses this last year and based on conversations with them, they are eager to be a part of this moving forward and so yes, reaching out to sponsors and also implementing some fundraising as well.

[1:14:29] We're trying to come to the table with money as a organization here as we get things rolling.

[1:14:36] With the idea that yes that we will be able to recover, you know, our operating costs here,

[1:14:42] shortly.

[1:14:47] I know I am voted to bring this matter back because I've never really spoken to

[1:14:51] why I consistently vote no. And I'm you're talking to curly back in the day when I was in the

[1:14:58] play at the Barnett.

[1:15:00] And I remember distinctly watching you in Oklahoma and you were fantastic and my husband and I still talk about what a wonderful night and you have a beautiful voice.

[1:15:10] However, last year when Upps was brought forward by the mayor, my understanding was it was for start-up class.

[1:15:18] And so now I have to ask myself, would I fund every organization that some body wants to put together to support the youth in our community?

[1:15:26] whether that's a drunken club and esports club

[1:15:28] and underwater basket weaving club,

[1:15:31] I don't care, but if we're gonna wrap it up

[1:15:33] for it's for our children,

[1:15:35] then are we now supposed to give $20,000.

[1:15:39] And I can't in good conscience, say I would do that.

[1:15:43] So I just kind of go, at some point,

[1:15:46] I can't continue voting,

[1:15:48] because I knew when the future I wouldn't continue voting

[1:15:52] for funding.

[1:15:54] So, I'm worried about sitting a precedent, my understanding was, and maybe I just misunderstood

[1:15:59] the mayor, but I thought it was for start-up cost, and then it was going to be taken

[1:16:03] over by fundraisers and sponsorships and grants, and I also reached out to people that

[1:16:10] were involved in the finance level of the city previously with Ops, and city money was

[1:16:15] not previously used for Ops, and so I just wish you the best, and I know the kids do a

[1:16:21] job and all of that, but I just can't commit to more funding. And that's why I wanted

[1:16:28] to bring this back so people understood why I'm sure in the way I do.

[1:16:32] So thank you, Sean, for all you do. And please continue, like you said, oops, we'll

[1:16:36] continue in some way.

[1:16:38] Yeah, thank you.

[1:16:45] Yeah, I'm sorry about that and I'm maybe not, but I apologize I wasn't here the last

[1:16:52] time.

[1:16:53] Mode for this.

[1:16:54] I look at it.

[1:16:55] Respectfully, I see things like this absolutely is called a life and quality life is economic

[1:17:01] development.

[1:17:02] It does drop people to don't rapids.

[1:17:04] I think of an even retention.

[1:17:07] These are the things where a young kid could have an excellent experience and they find

[1:17:14] a passion and a love and community and they stay here.

[1:17:18] These are the things that why people not only will come to Dell Rabbids and move here,

[1:17:24] which 100% helps us our tax-based and all these things, but it will also retain people

[1:17:28] here.

[1:17:30] I am passionate about quality of life.

[1:17:31] These are the things that set us apart, unequivocally,

[1:17:36] we'll always do my best.

[1:17:39] And we can't be home to future counsels.

[1:17:42] All of us will come and go.

[1:17:43] You may or may not get future monies.

[1:17:47] I can't base what I'm doing today.

[1:17:50] I want somebody else to do in the future.

[1:17:53] Personally, I am absolutely in support of the quality of life for

[1:17:56] nonprofits and even if other communities don't do it,

[1:17:59] I'm for us being better in another communities.

[1:18:04] I'll add to that.

[1:18:05] I believe in what you're doing.

[1:18:07] I love what you're doing.

[1:18:08] I love the messaging.

[1:18:10] I believe in the quality of life.

[1:18:12] I believe that fits in with the visit.

[1:18:13] It's some of where you tie up this magic ribbon around all this stuff.

[1:18:18] I think this fantastic community is going to continue to grow and grow.

[1:18:23] The issue that I have is I look through your application.

[1:18:27] it made the awarding problem. Section 1, paragraph 3, three times it says funding is for

[1:18:34] salaries. One time it mentions programming details to come on the summer, the camp,

[1:18:44] undefined. I did the math later on. You mentioned 800 touches between attendance, roughly 25

[1:18:51] dollars per touch in the community, which I think is fantastic,

[1:18:57] having come from and seen a lot

[1:18:59] of what I'll call grant applications.

[1:19:04] This proposal, if my opinion, would not fly to a grant application,

[1:19:09] because most of them will not fund data-to-operations for salary, their event, funding that they provide.

[1:19:18] And I agree with Wendy's comment of the kind of worms that we opened the precedent that we set is, and my vote, no, is not on the organization.

[1:19:29] I support you guys. I'll help you.

[1:19:34] To the bone, I'll help you guys do what you need to do.

[1:19:38] My know is more on the structure of the request and should the city be funding this type of a

[1:19:48] other request.

[1:19:49] So nothing personal, absolutely not, I'll tell you how to help you guys, until the cows

[1:19:53] come home.

[1:19:54] And if I can address them, I'll take responsibility for the application, because that

[1:19:58] was me.

[1:19:58] Some of this is learning harder.

[1:20:00] Learn how to fly while I build the ship. Just not having a lot of experience doing this kind of work in terms of the application process.

[1:20:08] And so, there are things that I'm learning along the way. Again, I'm not going to shy away from, I'm not going to shy away from that, as an organization that we're going to be the people that are doing the work for the kit with the kits.

[1:20:21] We're leaning on volunteers to do a lot of things, but when we're talking about a window

[1:20:27] a time for me in the morning until 12 or later, and we're asking professionals to be

[1:20:34] in there working with the kids.

[1:20:37] I think that I think that we ought to offer some compensation, and that's just as an organization

[1:20:40] that's our philosophy.

[1:20:43] If that precludes us from being involved in any city funding, I guess I can, I'll have to

[1:20:49] to be fair. I don't think we ever put any requirements on there that equate this to a grant.

[1:20:56] So I don't I think that's a little bit of a false equivalent person.

[1:21:02] I'm also thinking

[1:21:04] like big picture of like we're considering and wanting to grow what we do is invest.

[1:21:09] I think what our job is to invest city dollars back into our city. Is that correct? Well, streets

[1:21:14] are super important. I think everybody can agree with that. I don't think we ignore our streets

[1:21:18] infrastructure. What our city is not just streets and pipes. It's people, right? If we can't

[1:21:26] invest back into people who are giving it to our community, I think we're just missing the

[1:21:31] bulk. That's my take. Again, now I also see an opportunity, Matt's going to come with a summer program

[1:21:37] and I think I'm not trying to step on his toes, but maybe there's an opportunity where it's like

[1:21:43] a week of play, you know, things like that. I see a synergy there where we could be our

[1:21:50] summer program could integrate with, oops, maybe they could, you know, help out for a week and

[1:21:56] do, you know, with the future summer. So I'm just saying, I think there's opportunity more

[1:22:00] than just like, hey, this is a private people who just want to do their play. I think this is

[1:22:06] I do feel that this is an investment into our community.

[1:22:12] I'm just saying again, I'm stepping back and looking at it from that level.

[1:22:16] We are investing our town's dollars into our community.

[1:22:21] I'll let that, yes, there's something I'm going to bring up later for the council.

[1:22:25] But there are state statutes and counterpart laws that have effect that I'm going to propose to the council

[1:22:34] that we review. And then to give the industry a chance to look through some of this stuff to make

[1:22:42] sure that we are in compliance with what the state says we can and can't get money to.

[1:22:50] Is there a concern about getting money to oops?

[1:22:56] Oops.

[1:22:58] As a signal, a single request,

[1:23:04] I don't have the answer to some of the other ones that are

[1:23:07] for the budget, yes there is a problem and I'll talk with you guys, I'm going to bring up that

[1:23:12] under the open items.

[1:23:16] I guess that's fair, but I'm going to take my yes and I'll

[1:23:19] turn it from blue and if we have to have something because you need to figure finds out

[1:23:26] about that's fair. I have no concern about funding to qualify tax exempt entity so they have

[1:23:34] 501C3 exemption. So whether it's used for rent, supplies, staff, wages, I have no problem with that.

[1:23:46] Thank you.

[1:23:48] I watched this council put plenty of money into our parks through our baseball fields,

[1:23:58] through our project that we did down the old tennis courts and getting those converted to pickleball,

[1:24:03] we dumped tons of money into our swimming pool and it seems like our community doesn't have

[1:24:10] an issue with us contributing to physical activity, but we're trying away from arts and

[1:24:15] we can consider what the arts provide to our community.

[1:24:20] There are a lot of people in this community

[1:24:22] who have gone on to do arts as a full-time profession in some way, shape, or form. This is investment

[1:24:28] into our community. It just isn't sports. And I think we need to consider that this isn't sports.

[1:24:38] To address councilwoman, Nelson's comment about my asking for funding for oops last year.

[1:24:46] I've been mayor for 15 months of the city of Dahlwrapins. At the time of my asking, I

[1:24:52] had wanted a summer children's theater program to go on in our city because one we have

[1:25:00] A beautiful outdoor ban show or whatever you want to call it, amphitheater which kids do, play on and they put

[1:25:08] on plays without any adult intervention. They do it the same. They run around and dance. It's

[1:25:15] very great entertainment for me sitting on my debt watching those kids. I can't hear what they're saying,

[1:25:21] but I can see them. That kind of prompted the city of Delrapid should have a summer children's theater

[1:25:26] program and I'm going to use my platform as mayor to get it. Now, whether that's right

[1:25:31] or wrong, I couldn't tell you. If it's legal or not, I don't know. I hope it is because

[1:25:37] I hope somebody would have stopped me. Anyway, that said, I get I picked a random number

[1:25:42] of which to I thought would maybe hopefully get you started and be able to continue on. I

[1:25:51] I've never put on a flavor before.

[1:25:53] I don't know what it costs to buy stuff.

[1:25:56] And I hope that it wouldn't be like a reoccurring event.

[1:26:02] However, knowing the cost of which it does take to get things.

[1:26:07] And the fact that the professionals that we have working with

[1:26:11] are youth during that summertime,

[1:26:14] they are fingerprinted FBI background check,

[1:26:18] which has to happen for baseball.

[1:26:20] So the coaches have to have that background check in order to work with kids.

[1:26:26] So that's taking care of by the fact that the professionals of our city have stepped forward

[1:26:30] to do this little summer theater program.

[1:26:36] So in my opinion, it's, I will take the blame for not maybe for saying that it was a one-time

[1:26:41] deal or start up money that's on me, but don't punish the kids because of what I said.

[1:26:47] to just somehow I interpreted it, but that's really, I was like, we're in really

[1:26:53] introduced, oops, to the community and we need to get, so in that, in that

[1:26:58] grain, it was mainly a catalyst in which to get, get it started.

[1:27:04] And I appreciate you following the parameters of which I said, to have it done on

[1:27:08] Corridis, don't feel like you have to do that again.

[1:27:10] That was just my then, my request, so, anyway, good luck.

[1:27:18] any further discussion on this? Well, in your team of motion.

[1:27:24] So just that

[1:27:25] curiosity, what would, if we're re-intertainmentless, this is backed up, what is

[1:27:30] this the time to say? You know, it got shot down at 20,000, if we said 12,000, or I mean

[1:27:37] or how does that? I know there was a lot of back and forth and yes on this number, what's the

[1:27:42] best way to proceed? To make a motion? Okay, I guess I'd make a motion to prove 12,000.

[1:27:50] We have a motion on the table by Ron's Huggins for funding oops at 12,000 is there second.

[1:27:59] We have a second by Jones.

[1:28:01] All those in favor say aye.

[1:28:03] Aye.

[1:28:04] Opposed me?

[1:28:06] Aye.

[1:28:07] I'm going to roll call please.

[1:28:11] Phelps.

[1:28:12] Aye.

[1:28:12] Hi.

[1:28:13] Yes.

[1:28:14] Nelson.

[1:28:15] Thank.

[1:28:15] Kevin Jones.

[1:28:17] Yes.

[1:28:17] Ron Sagan? Yes, we're seeing. Yes, past motion carried. Thank you. Next item. Our budget. They're not our budget. Our agenda is new business.

[1:28:30] Draft a pool board ordinance.

[1:28:36] You have in front of you the draft of the pool advisory board ordinance tonight is the discussion only in if you have any changes that you want to see your direction on the ordinance over kind of the highlights or water in there.

[1:28:52] It's to create and establish a pool of advisory board for the city that will wrap it.

[1:28:59] Any funding would have to be approved by city council duties and responsibilities are

[1:29:05] both sole purposes of assisting and planning, coordinating solicitation of funding for

[1:29:13] proposed improvements to the swimming pool and provide recommendations to the city council.

[1:29:17] They will not be responsible for any hiring or management of pool staff or operations.

[1:29:23] Organization, I did put in there six voting members, one from the City Council as the liaison in five members, five persons of the registered voters in the city.

[1:29:32] And that, and some of them advised, remember, City Employees.

[1:29:38] And ladies, all the terms in there.

[1:29:42] The members of course are appointed by the mayor and conferred by the council.

[1:29:47] and they'll like to share person and vice chair. The second chair should be a city staff member to do the agendas and minutes and those kind of things.

[1:30:01] The city council liaison would pour back to the council on anything, chairperson can as well. So either one.

[1:30:09] The meeting wants a month. It's not a set time in the ordinance on when, so we can set that at the time, the board is created and hopefully come up with a consistent, digging a smart.

[1:30:22] Those are the highlights, so yeah, the other questions, suggestions,

[1:30:31] okay with it.

[1:30:38] I'm not sure if I write in there exactly how we start betting the original board.

[1:30:47] We would do the same thing as we do as any other board members now.

[1:30:50] We would advertise it.

[1:30:51] We do have a board form, we would fill out that form, turn that in,

[1:30:56] Mayer would review them, make a suggestion that Council on Council would appoint.

[1:31:02] Okay, thank you.

[1:31:05] And that would be obviously after this was approved.

[1:31:08] So just a draft tonight.

[1:31:10] September would be first reading second reading.

[1:31:12] It would be a fact until I think I have over.

[1:31:16] If it goes forward with first reading next time, it would be afterwards 16 to be a fact.

[1:31:21] Then would advertise.

[1:31:23] And get those back.

[1:31:28] at this final entertainment motion to prove no motion is just a draft.

[1:31:33] I'm sorry, but I'm seeing no changes move forward. First, really next meeting, it's kind of

[1:31:40] on hand.

[1:31:46] Thank you, further discussion.

[1:31:52] Moving on, the Orlean's Avenue Project, set resolution

[1:31:56] that necessity, public hearing, date. So tonight is just the set, the public hearing date.

[1:32:04] We'll set it for September 8th at 7 o'clock, but there was a lot of information in there for you and

[1:32:11] I attached the public knows that notice I've attached the proposed resolution and necessity for the Orleans project.

[1:32:17] We attach the exhibit for you in the special assessment process. So that was all in there for you.

[1:32:24] The city isn't expressed in intent to assess the portion of the project. We have done it in the last three or four projects. So that's kind of the precedent that's been set.

[1:32:34] We've communicated this attempt with the property owners by holding an open house a few weeks ago

[1:32:39] And I will have to once you set this hearing date tonight later this week.

[1:32:44] I'll have to mail out to all the property owners that are affected.

[1:32:48] I noticed some of the public hearing date and a bunch of other information in there as well.

[1:32:54] So the overall project is about 4.9 million.

[1:32:59] about 250,000 to that is those of our work looking out to be assessed.

[1:33:04] There's a total of about 36 properties in there.

[1:33:08] So tonight we just need a motion to set the public hearing data on September 8th at 7 p.m.

[1:33:14] This final layer of data motion to set the date or September 8th.

[1:33:17] Oh my god motion.

[1:33:18] There's a second.

[1:33:19] We have a motion on the table from Ron Sagan.

[1:33:22] Let's take a look at Nelson for September 8th.

[1:33:26] All those in favor say aye.

[1:33:27] By the way, I proposed an A motion carried moving on proposed summer city summer recreation program 2027

[1:33:35] Attached is the draft proposal on ideas for the city to run in the city with run a summer record program

[1:33:42] Maths here to go more in details. I just want to know that anything that's in the packet is

[1:33:47] draft only

[1:33:48] Set and stone so I just wanted to get that out there

[1:33:52] Thank you

[1:33:55] Yeah, so this was

[1:33:56] So, an idea that to have now been talking about and put together to do a some a record

[1:34:04] program, you know, kind of in the budget discussion is with that program that I was

[1:34:10] talked about earlier with Haven. This could be opportunity for us to have one at the

[1:34:15] city park. We would tentatively run it from June to July for ages five and older.

[1:34:21] we wouldn't cost anything. I said in there a lot of this is conceptual some high-level ideas

[1:34:31] of what we like to do a sample daily schedule. In the fact that there's also a sample on

[1:34:36] what each week to potentially be each week we could have a theme to it. I'm just putting

[1:34:44] hitting some of the highlights of this we've proposed having a couple of part-time recreation leaders

[1:34:51] just so that we'd have at least one person available.

[1:34:53] Hopefully that you know vacation, say what have you, something to be gone.

[1:34:58] I can hear that you know, we're...

[1:35:00] And also, on the idea, be nice if it's a college student in the middle of elementary education program, or somebody who might be heading that direction to maybe kind of be the point folks for this.

[1:35:11] And there's certainly some opportunities there. We could reach up to say, Mary, get some volunteer, others with those kids can help coordinate them in this as well.

[1:35:22] can be the highlight of what we've gone with.

[1:35:26] So happy to answer any questions.

[1:35:28] Which might happen if you have a lot of kids signing up.

[1:35:31] Are there two employees in Vienna?

[1:35:34] Hopefully.

[1:35:37] You know, there, I think there's an opportunity there where I could run down there for a little bit to kind of pursue some things.

[1:35:45] Maybe to tell you, somebody else too could run down there and help with that as well.

[1:35:49] But that's where we're looking at both the tiers, but T.S.

[1:35:53] So, yes.

[1:35:54] And we would probably be back to the same area,

[1:35:57] or any other folks that need those volunteer hours for projects.

[1:36:01] So, our community involvement that they need to have required that this will certainly be a lot of those things that we can use to read those requirements.

[1:36:12] Sort of a part-time employee's.

[1:36:14] Yeah, because we would be looking at running this from the hours of night and afternoon,

[1:36:18] Monday through Thursday.

[1:36:19] I know one of our very first iterations without Friday, but we went back in the

[1:36:24] Pavilion.

[1:36:25] Don't think this book just thought it would be Friday too, so I believe that's the

[1:36:29] most of those books that we can use it for the weekend.

[1:36:36] Matt, the only question in your comment, I guess, did you have help pulling this together?

[1:36:41] Is this basically a computer?

[1:36:43] I'm going to get credit to Tammy, she's the one that kind of ran with this.

[1:36:47] Okay, well my only comment is I got on here, who put this together?

[1:36:50] I like it.

[1:36:51] Good job of first draft on this, thank you.

[1:36:53] Okay,

[1:36:56] as someone who works with middle schoolers and eighth graders don't always like to spend time with sixth graders.

[1:37:03] I'm wondering, and I get that this kind of started with that hate and proposal and that half our time requirements might be a little tight,

[1:37:11] but I'm wondering if you want to try that and just break it down into a little bit of an age range.

[1:37:17] I know they do that at the library too because do you really want sixth graders throwing

[1:37:23] you bodily bones or whatever at a first grader? So that would be my feedback. I like you've got

[1:37:30] a great draft and that's what you're here to do is ask this right input and that's just one

[1:37:34] of my things is maybe try first some age ability and skill level there. But I think it's a good

[1:37:41] idea to incorporate, you know, the physical activity and the STEM and game time and that kind of thing

[1:37:46] like kind of that common go so you know like a kid a first grade of how we can't stand there for

[1:37:52] three hours and do this but I also worry about are you going to get fifth graders if you have

[1:37:57] kindergarten person yeah I can say a brain and it's open and there's no like the ages aren't

[1:38:04] separated so it's just an open gem and all you just are there and they have different tables for

[1:38:09] different activities and such but yeah I just wonder if a two hour but anyway but then again I

[1:38:16] Then I go, well, you know what, you can have families that are going well, I've got a first

[1:38:19] greater third grader and a fifth grader, and they might go, we just want to go to the

[1:38:23] park and not have to try to hit two different times, so I don't believe I'm overthinking

[1:38:28] it.

[1:38:29] I mean, I don't fully disagree with you, like if you're going to have a kindergarten or

[1:38:32] a versus like a sixth grader, but truth be told, I don't think you're going to see as many

[1:38:38] of the older kids present.

[1:38:42] I will tell you like my kids were like so disappointed on the days that they couldn't go to the library.

[1:38:49] They couldn't just couldn't participate in the other events that were going on.

[1:38:53] But I think this first draft and you guys running with us is great.

[1:38:57] I think it's a good start.

[1:38:59] I hope finding the right people that will run it.

[1:39:02] I think it's awesome coming from a mom whose kids are very, very bored.

[1:39:07] So I'm ready for school to start.

[1:39:09] Hopefully this didn't become for three hours.

[1:39:11] Go grab a quick lunch and get the pool for the rest of the afternoon.

[1:39:15] What is the process between now and the first event?

[1:39:21] I mean, do they got to tighten it down?

[1:39:22] They come back with proposals, schedules.

[1:39:24] How does that all play out?

[1:39:26] I curious.

[1:39:27] Well, I've added it in the budget.

[1:39:29] So in my line as long as you improve the budget,

[1:39:31] we wouldn't afford it with it.

[1:39:32] With hiring the next year,

[1:39:34] we would come up with the final ideas,

[1:39:36] bring those back to you and say,

[1:39:38] This is, you know, the, listen, the weekly information and get that information out, the social media website.

[1:39:45] Those kind of things probably wouldn't have the paper just to get the word out there that we're doing again next year.

[1:39:57] Thanks, man. Good start.

[1:40:00] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Moving on,

[1:40:10] the 2027 budget works session.

[1:40:15] Mayor, I'm going to kick this off and then pass it over to Christina. This agenda item is to provide it to changes from the August 10 budget session, which is in your packet and to the finalizes, much as possible, any changes before staff brings back the first ordinance reading.

[1:40:29] At the September 8th meeting, I would strongly encourage council to try to button up any major

[1:40:38] disagreements they have tonight.

[1:40:40] If we don't have a successful first reading on September 8th, we really start compressing

[1:40:45] the schedule which could result in additional council meetings, I don't think we need to

[1:40:49] do that.

[1:40:49] I think pretty cold or so on and everything, but I will turn over when I can crisp it out.

[1:40:56] I've highlighted everything in the packet, but I'm just going to go over the highlights and then after that, we can talk about anything else you want, but page two, add a back in the pool concessions revenue, page three, tweak the pavilion fees, since the discussion was the way the fees as is, and then change the transfer from general front and reserves to cover the street shop essentially is what the difference is.

[1:41:25] there.

[1:41:28] I didn't tab my pages. The next one of your page 13 adding in the 15,000 for two

[1:41:40] radar speed signs. It was mentioned that the one this year with the funds I'm going to have

[1:41:45] and then add two next year. So I added in 15,000 from what we kind of get back on estimates. I should

[1:41:53] cover it with the sign and pull and then install

[1:42:01] page 14, the trance it added in the insurance

[1:42:08] property insurance and utilities in there so we were doing utilities, it was on the past

[1:42:14] history and just missed page 17 we added in the summer wreck program, we did put 10,000 in

[1:42:24] There, the staff feels that's more than adequate to cover wages and supplies to get us up and running.

[1:42:30] We initially thought 7500 and I was mentioned here 10,000.

[1:42:35] So I think that will be more than enough to get the supplies.

[1:42:40] And once we have some of those supplies, we should be good for the following year and we use those four games and those different things.

[1:42:46] So swimming pool increased the wages and we're doing concessions and then I have the expenditure

[1:42:53] in there for the concessions supplies.

[1:43:01] That balance is out, the general fund to zero, page 25, the third set, I added that transfer

[1:43:10] out to the revolving loan fund of 30,000, and then the next couple of pages are adding

[1:43:16] in that revolving loan fund, getting that transfer in there and then potentially budgeting

[1:43:25] some of the 30,000 for loans. So that obviously has to come forward with the revolving

[1:43:31] loan fund and the program, and yet, but wanted to get it in the budget.

[1:43:42] Page 37 is the liquor fund. We increased that transfer to the general fund to 160 and that is at zero.

[1:44:00] Page 44 did increase the sewer professional services up to 60. It was at 40.

[1:44:08] looking at the past history and the sewer fund was had more than that. So I just increased that to

[1:44:15] make sure that we were covered on that. And the only other question that I've forgot to ask

[1:44:21] in the last meeting is where your thoughts were on the district insurance. I didn't add anything in there.

[1:44:29] Didn't know if you wanted to offer that at all to stop whether it was all on them or if you wanted

[1:44:35] the cover of the single coverage on that.

[1:44:42] Can you remind me what that's doing on that one?

[1:44:47] I think if we covered all the staff,

[1:44:49] think it was around 3,000, 3,300,

[1:44:54] and I think it was where it was around.

[1:44:56] And that's of all staff would take it.

[1:44:59] And that, that, that, that.

[1:45:00] Would be spread out across general fund, water, and sewer, for all of our employees aren't.

[1:45:07] But unlike health, it would be employee only.

[1:45:11] Or are you saying this would be right?

[1:45:13] I would suggest that if if council is willing to cover up any of it would be employee only, you single coverage, they would cover it and then it would be only employee to pay anything about them beyond that.

[1:45:25] Okay, thank you.

[1:45:30] I think either way I think there's interest with first app to offer it, either direction,

[1:45:40] so I just if you wanted to consider paying for the single premium I would add it into the

[1:45:50] budget.

[1:45:51] For the, or you know having that is an offer.

[1:45:58] With city coverage single?

[1:46:01] Yeah single, right.

[1:46:02] That's right.

[1:46:04] I will take a second.

[1:46:10] Okay.

[1:46:11] I'm seeing a majority.

[1:46:13] I'm on a coastline.

[1:46:15] So I guess that would be in favor of it.

[1:46:18] I'm more worried about how much money we take and spend just on employees.

[1:46:26] And I'm going to take that to that time clock issue.

[1:46:29] And so I have no problems spending 3300 helping people have glasses because that's part of their daily life.

[1:46:36] and they really can't do their job without their glasses.

[1:46:41] And, um, but then I look at some of this at the amount of budget.

[1:46:47] And I know you can give me the percentages that were way under, you know,

[1:46:51] state average national libraries.

[1:46:52] Whatever average you want to give me.

[1:46:55] Um, but when it comes to punching and another time clock we have,

[1:46:59] we have supervisors that can supervise their employees and they can manage their

[1:47:05] timesheets, because we don't have 20 employees do we have in this city and if we exclude

[1:47:14] the pool, if we exclude the pool in around 20 and we want to spend 15,000 on time

[1:47:21] clocks. I'm like that's, and that's this year and I know you said that the time clocks

[1:47:27] are going to get changed over here and that's not, but then what's the new thing next

[1:47:30] that we're going to spend on managing employees and the next time and the next time.

[1:47:36] I just kind of go let the supervisor supervise their employees. They've been doing it. We didn't

[1:47:42] have to have $15,000 with the timeclubs. If we need one of the pool because it's a lot of

[1:47:48] in and out and they're not training. It's not it's a seasonal job and they're not in that learning

[1:47:54] and all that. I could be convinced of that but I guess it's just that that creep of how much

[1:47:59] the budget we spend on staff that I don't know if our citizens really see the benefit of

[1:48:06] something like that. But I'm okay with vision. Thank you.

[1:48:14] So the vision contact will come in front of council on a different time, obviously.

[1:48:18] I will put some numbers on the budget just to make sure it's covered, but it'll be something

[1:48:24] that will come forward to you that you'll have to do an official approval for the vision anyway.

[1:48:29] on that note. Is there any other things in the budget concerns? I want to make sure

[1:48:39] that the first reading and September 8th we're going to go and we don't have

[1:48:42] any issues. So I want to bring them up now. And that's why I'm bringing that now. I'm

[1:48:46] full-hander sample in the budget so that's that I get that. Thank you.

[1:48:51] All right. So are you asking their room room for the money for the time-pots?

[1:48:54] Is that what you're asking for? I would appreciate some input because yes I would put

[1:48:58] for that motion. So if the time cards aren't purchased, hear me out, that money just wouldn't

[1:49:06] be allocated at that time. Like, I know we're putting money in the budget, it hasn't been purchased,

[1:49:14] but as far as time cards go, I supervise staff. I supervise a few staff now, but one of my staff

[1:49:23] only five people and I physically can see them out. But I still want to know when they punch in an

[1:49:29] out for one, making sure that they are taking their lunch bag. The lunch bag is further not

[1:49:35] skipping them because they I think have to take a lunch break unless they're approved and it's just

[1:49:41] that accountability. Auditing purposes, HR will come after me if there's a time card,

[1:49:47] somebody works 501, that's a differential pay. I can't just go back and adjust their time card.

[1:49:53] because they worked past five or one.

[1:49:56] That is a common ability, too,

[1:49:58] and it's a lot of stress, as it's...

[1:50:00] Supervisor, because then I can't say, well, they are actually here only to file. No, they were here to file a 1 and they have to pay them a differential pay. I'm just telling you, as a supervisor, time cards have saved me more than once, like, tenfold. That's where I stand. Whether they're bigger small kids, I know swimming pool, they're not, you know, a huge piece of the pie or whatever during the summer.

[1:50:27] but time cards not only protect the supervisor,

[1:50:31] but also them play you too.

[1:50:33] Because if they are working longer,

[1:50:35] coming in earlier, there's any differential pace

[1:50:38] or anything like that, it is covered.

[1:50:41] And do we have a differential pay factor?

[1:50:47] That might be, count times, maybe what you're talking about.

[1:50:51] I mean, there's like, I actually experience it.

[1:50:53] You know, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock,

[1:50:55] and you go back to eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock,

[1:50:57] 22 is 815. So I mean there's I don't know if that's me or are you kind of talking about to you and

[1:51:05] the time clock just doesn't automatically and that's it's really nice if you don't have to think about

[1:51:11] what time you came in. Do I need to move it back to it?

[1:51:14] It's a clock and move 4815 and it's just it's there on the time clock.

[1:51:18] But we would be looking at the January implementation.

[1:51:21] We would start with implementing, yes, in January, probably take four to six months.

[1:51:29] So I would suggest we just leave that in the budget and we can continue bringing it up before that time,

[1:51:35] because we would want to do approval on to the software and the hardware projects at that time.

[1:51:39] Correct? Is that a fair order?

[1:51:43] If you want me to bring four in again?

[1:51:47] only just because there's if there's the scent I guess. But like for now I would recommend

[1:51:53] just leaving in the budget. One of the things I could be wrong in this

[1:51:58] but I believe that there was a law or ruling about Browning people's kinds on the

[1:52:05] time class where that was found not to be legit. So I don't know if that's

[1:52:10] somebody might want to check in, put the software at the time, so I can

[1:52:14] and laws on that that people weren't.

[1:52:17] I didn't pay for the time they weren't because of the rounding that was being done.

[1:52:23] How many people do we have that this doesn't affect this far salary?

[1:52:28] They're meant to be harder.

[1:52:29] All would have such a clock in.

[1:52:31] I know I get it.

[1:52:32] You guys are salary.

[1:52:33] You can't clock in and clock out.

[1:52:35] But how many other people on that are salary?

[1:52:38] It doesn't really affect their pay if you're salary, right?

[1:52:41] I mean, just do them make what you make correct correct, correct, but yeah, sorry.

[1:52:48] Why are we going to have nothing to do with their pay, right?

[1:52:51] But you're still required to work your hours even if you're salary.

[1:52:55] So like I'm salary, but I like that, but if I didn't do that, they don't need differential

[1:53:01] paid because for no differential pay was just so simple.

[1:53:04] I used to where I work.

[1:53:06] But I'm going off the examples.

[1:53:10] If we're salary, it doesn't really matter for that minute or round name or whatever.

[1:53:20] So I'm just going to use Steve here as an example because he takes calls all the time.

[1:53:26] Alright, so we can, it's early morning's year name it.

[1:53:30] Does Steve clock in then?

[1:53:32] Does he just document it and then have to go back and adjust it?

[1:53:36] How does that work when Claire stops somewhere?

[1:53:40] before he goes to the shop and checks on something and see if leaving out of town and going down to the shop.

[1:53:46] Is he on the clock? Is he off the clock? How much adjustment are we going to get from some of our employees?

[1:53:52] And is that worth 15? Yeah.

[1:54:00] I mean, it just kind of makes me think about, like, how exactly does this work in practice for some of our employees?

[1:54:07] is because it seems like there's some of them. It works. I've implemented it. I've done it. It works.

[1:54:16] There's an hours of quest button, so if you're taking a phone call after hours and it's more than

[1:54:23] eight or seven minutes, then you can do an hours of quest for that and then that gets approved.

[1:54:29] There's time-off requests, so you don't have to do it with paper, time-off requests and you

[1:54:33] you time off in their supervisor proves that you have that time off. So it is a very nice system.

[1:54:39] It works very well.

[1:54:42] Is there for auditors, payroll auditors to look at those hours,

[1:54:48] supervisors to look at those hours, they approve them and they get sent off to payroll and then payroll

[1:55:00] But there's just a little piece of this that makes me wonder.

[1:55:08] If the impression that we aren't giving is that we haven't trusted our employees up to this point to the accurate and their record keeping. And how does our staff feel about?

[1:55:22] And that's so much the accountability side of it because they do think our staff have been pretty accountable to their hours, but, like, how does this impact them from a we no longer trust you to accurately keep your time?

[1:55:35] Has anybody in our staff really expressed some concern for

[1:55:42] Disagrement with a time clock system

[1:55:46] I've mentioned that it's all the supervisors and I have not

[1:55:51] They've all been fighting with it. Yep. I think we're asking the wrong questions

[1:55:55] I think you're looking at as a punitive thing

[1:55:58] Software is just like not I know and that's what I'm saying. It's software is just like anything it can be

[1:56:05] I've been in thousands of small businesses.

[1:56:08] Every software is just dependent on the companies

[1:56:12] where I'm going to use it, right?

[1:56:13] It's like the previous software that we

[1:56:15] purchased without it would be great,

[1:56:16] who didn't use it, you know what I mean?

[1:56:19] So on four efficient cities and things

[1:56:22] of that nature, I think we just bleeped in there

[1:56:25] and let them move forward if it's not an effective tool.

[1:56:30] I'm certain we'll hear about it.

[1:56:33] It's going to be effective.

[1:56:35] It's to me, we have been for decades running a city, we've had a few more employees and we keep now adding more money to manage our employees.

[1:56:47] That's where I am at.

[1:56:48] Because for decades, we've been functioning and I haven't heard any citizens mad that nobody's at their works say.

[1:56:57] So there's also a lot of new cable laws that have been coming out every year too, to the

[1:57:02] invention of these crazy smart devices, you know, if you got a salary or an hourly

[1:57:07] person that has a phone and has to take emails in the weekends, we have to be paying

[1:57:11] at them.

[1:57:12] There's all kinds of evolution in that we're suggesting, honestly, honestly, I'm sure that

[1:57:18] we are in compliance with the very human laws out there too.

[1:57:23] It's a complex deal.

[1:57:32] Moving on.

[1:57:36] All right. Anything else in the budget?

[1:57:41] Well, I take issue with the cost of the breast

[1:57:45] room. It's late in that 300,000 death park.

[1:57:53] I think we can lower that.

[1:57:58] I just wanted

[1:57:59] to mention that people have asked me if it's going to for sure have the storage equipment

[1:58:03] space that it currently has, because when my husband coached, he was more where we were

[1:58:08] going to remove and just make it a bathroom. And so I think we still need to make sure it has

[1:58:14] storage and I think it's a mention and I didn't quite understand because it was the meat house

[1:58:19] gone, so I was only watching another video with the concessions. And I think it would be nice if there

[1:58:26] was an easy way to do concessions. So I'm hoping when we design it, we actually designed it for bathrooms,

[1:58:34] concessions, and storage. And I believe that was Clarence's plan. So it's being promoted to

[1:58:42] to ask them about the bathroom. I believe Clarence mentioned what we talked about it being a

[1:58:50] replacement for what was there and what currently there has concessionorage and yeah and I

[1:58:56] don't and that would be somebody or friend it's been decades like at least a decade since I've been

[1:59:02] down there and I don't remember concessions ever being sold out of there so I don't know if it's an

[1:59:07] Fishent way of doing it or what it has, it has so kind, it's just a poor design right now.

[1:59:15] So don't you think of redesign of it, not to significantly raise the cost. I'm not asking for that.

[1:59:21] But I just think there's people that I'd love to be able to say that looks. Can you work with the baseball,

[1:59:25] people who can see if you can do a fundraiser down there? You know, that's what I'm with.

[1:59:32] So I think it would need all those needs correct.

[1:59:35] It doesn't click down.

[1:59:38] Did he say that last night?

[1:59:40] Yeah.

[1:59:42] I think it's important to budget for the building and take this and whatever it comes in,

[1:59:49] then we'll approve that.

[1:59:51] 300 is probably, is that the high end?

[1:59:56] I'd be surprised if it's over.

[2:00:00] Major in February, evening, minute, or evening, or the mayor to the people to mess up with a

[2:00:00] hour.

[2:00:01] But 2.25 and 3.8 I mean, ultimately it's going to come back to you in a bit and you can decide

[2:00:09] if you're going to have to move the distance, a bit,

[2:00:22] a bit of a cut off of chat.

[2:00:23] I just want to leave the money in the budget.

[2:00:26] I believe that happens, when it comes time to a week and neither approve it tonight.

[2:00:32] Or the town.

[2:00:33] I said my teeth.

[2:00:40] Anything else?

[2:00:45] All right?

[2:00:46] No.

[2:00:47] So the only

[2:00:50] thing I have is just the change that I've visioned in there.

[2:00:58] And that's it for the time.

[2:00:59] And so I'll bring, I'll take that and I'll bring the first reading at the September 8th meeting.

[2:01:03] Is the plan.

[2:01:06] Other than that, something everybody's kind of on the same page.

[2:01:09] But what else?

[2:01:10] We've talked about.

[2:01:12] and to reiterate if something were to change next week and if they do it again we have to have

[2:01:19] a special session correct.

[2:01:22] So yeah, I hope there's not, and that's why we have budget meetings, that's why we have

[2:01:27] budget sessions to work all of these details out.

[2:01:32] You know, I wonder, it's a budget as a guide, and a lot of these things will come back to the council again.

[2:01:37] You know, if it goes to bed, if we got professional services for the DGR,

[2:01:43] if, you know, there's many things that will come back back to council, but other things are going to guide for staff.

[2:01:51] So I hope there isn't.

[2:01:55] You could make a motion to change the first reading and then second and then you would have to.

[2:02:00] But if you have changes after you do that first reading then you would have to do that.

[2:02:08] especially moving.

[2:02:09] So, I guess I feel comfortable offering on this.

[2:02:13] So, for sure.

[2:02:14] Okay,

[2:02:22] I will get that going.

[2:02:26] Thank you.

[2:02:31] Sorry, so we done with the.

[2:02:34] Bless you.

[2:02:35] But do it work session.

[2:02:38] And all right, moving on to you now.

[2:02:40] Finally, let's have the service report.

[2:02:42] Just the July Financeals are attached for you.

[2:02:45] Sales tax kind of came up this last month.

[2:02:47] So we're kind of flat now.

[2:02:48] So that was nice to see.

[2:02:50] And then the pool closed if you didn't know pool closed Saturday, so they are close for the season and they're working this week to get down.

[2:02:59] Oh, emptied and cleaned up for them.

[2:03:02] Fall winter.

[2:03:06] And that was all I have.

[2:03:08] Okay, thank you.

[2:03:10] Administrative support, Steve.

[2:03:11] Just a couple of quick items, Mayor.

[2:03:13] I have continued research on the speed side edge captain.

[2:03:16] This is going to talk a little bit about it.

[2:03:19] Arizona came back with mobile trailers with all kinds of bells

[2:03:23] and whistles and analytics run $11 to $20,000.

[2:03:28] If you're considering something on the other hand,

[2:03:30] which was basically seems to be referred to in the industry

[2:03:34] as a speech on a stick where you get something

[2:03:37] which is basically since how fast you're going.

[2:03:41] And maybe a little bit of a virtual exploded

[2:03:43] owner, you know, it doesn't do anything, it's all yours to move on if you're under it's

[2:03:48] it's thank you, that kind of thing. There's a permanent signs and you can melt them on anything

[2:03:53] that you've got in the ground and wherever you want to do it within reason. I've got a couple of

[2:04:00] bits on this already, Christina, I connected me with what they used in Brandon. I talked to Harris

[2:04:07] burden, but those units, I got a bit of three out of them for $8,000, so kind of runs the

[2:04:16] gamut and what you might want to spend. So we've got $7,500 in the budget. If we wanted to do

[2:04:24] one or two of them, if you want to stretch the $7,500, $8,000, maybe we'll have to do three of them this

[2:04:30] year, and that's going to free up some budget money this year, or we can just test your item one,

[2:04:36] And we can devote the rest of the next year, if we see how we like it.

[2:04:40] So there's a lot of options.

[2:04:43] I was kind of focusing on the cow-like options, but I don't think that's necessary for what we're trying to do here.

[2:04:49] We're just trying to get people to slow it down.

[2:04:50] And that's what happens, as I said, seems to work really well.

[2:04:55] So if you want it, I can bring those back at the next meeting.

[2:05:00] Or shortly thereafter, has for council approval.

[2:05:08] Was that eight thousand for three, you said?

[2:05:10] Eight thousand for three, that does not include installation, so.

[2:05:14] Okay, thanks.

[2:05:15] It gets more detail.

[2:05:16] I would appreciate if you bring it back.

[2:05:19] I was even going to get a fancy as slow down, I thank you.

[2:05:23] I just wanted to like the white, the white and black current,

[2:05:26] speed limit.

[2:05:27] What it should be.

[2:05:28] And then above it has the flashing.

[2:05:29] And it just serves flashing at you if you're over it.

[2:05:32] If you're over speed limit, that works for me really well.

[2:05:36] But if there's a slow down on our thank you

[2:05:39] or whatever, and it's not more expensive,

[2:05:42] we can go fancy, but I just want

[2:05:44] to improve the safety coming in.

[2:05:47] And so if you bring those options,

[2:05:48] you're going to have a picture of whatever.

[2:05:50] Yeah, I would like to see some examples

[2:05:52] of what the actual display is, what we're getting for it.

[2:05:57] And I think we've identified five locations around our city.

[2:06:01] So whether that's a couple this year or in three next year, you know, that'll come down to budget,

[2:06:06] but we know we have five, and if we find some can we like, and hopefully we can get that done here in the next year or two.

[2:06:15] All right. Great. I would think we'll get at least address two.

[2:06:21] Soon with the information that provides them.

[2:06:25] I'll bring it back. The next meeting. I should be able to.

[2:06:29] Thanks.

[2:06:30] The other thing I have is policy and procedure committee meeting is going to hold a second

[2:06:34] meeting on Wednesday, August 19th, to consider suggesting a remedy to the channel as

[2:06:39] a fewters in e-bikes causing captain.

[2:06:43] This could volunteer to provide some further input.

[2:06:46] So we'll be getting together.

[2:06:48] Council pass this.

[2:06:50] the committee at the May 18th Council meeting, the committee directly, but I didn't connect

[2:07:00] the dots to the members of the meeting, so we've got the second meeting to

[2:07:03] in that bring that information back to you on September 8th as well. So

[2:07:11] that is all I've got, Mayor.

[2:07:13] Okay, thank you. Moving on to the report's personnel performance evaluation from the library.

[2:07:20] Mayor, I told Brittany, she didn't need to come for two hours to talk for 30 seconds about this.

[2:07:29] She conducted a library director, Muller, conducting a performance evaluation on Library A to Lisa Wolf.

[2:07:36] Her new way, just 17 and 73 an hour, is within the city's pre-paid plan and budgeted parameters.

[2:07:43] She will be a retroactive to her anniversary in July 10th.

[2:07:46] She also conducted an e-mail performance evaluation on library, Carol Swenson, herniway 1785

[2:07:53] an hour.

[2:07:54] It's also within the city's approved pay plan and budget parameters, and that will take

[2:07:58] effect on the anniversary date of September 13th, and no action required would just pass

[2:08:05] into the information.

[2:08:07] Thank you.

[2:08:08] Any other updates from Council?

[2:08:12] Yes.

[2:08:13] I have the things that I would like to present to Council.

[2:08:15] Thanks, Brian.

[2:08:17] Ask for your guidance and any of the good.

[2:08:23] Regarding the funding of outside sources or entities, what does this pertain to?

[2:08:30] For example, I don't know if there was a way that a nonprofit is a general category.

[2:08:37] There are public and private nonprofits.

[2:08:39] There are nonprofits that are private clubs, not open for this place and the belt

[2:08:47] rapples that we have funded. One of the things that codified law in 1912, the

[2:08:54] Lavin, municipalities may appropriate money from its general fund to promote itself.

[2:09:01] If, in the shallow,

[2:09:07] I didn't have to go to the company, they shall be required to maintain

[2:09:12] the complete records of all the activities and shall provide a certified audit of those

[2:09:18] records.

[2:09:20] If you also look at, for example, this is what Sioux Falls has just recently implemented

[2:09:27] for next year.

[2:09:28] going to be with me. I'll read it very quickly for you. Instead of organizations, essentially

[2:09:34] receiving individual subsidy appropriations, Sioux Falls created the community partner

[2:09:41] program, which uses a competitive RFD request for proposal process. Organizations compete

[2:09:49] for funding to provide services addressing defined city priorities, defined city priorities

[2:09:56] with standardized evaluation criteria.

[2:10:00] We have measurable outcomes, performance indicators, reporting requirements, and ultimate contracts.

[2:10:08] Okay, that's my request to the council in support guidance and for doing to put its boots and begin to this whole thing.

[2:10:19] What I'd like is the council would consider directing administration to review our current

[2:10:25] practices and bring back recommendations for a consistent transparent policy that we can

[2:10:32] be applied equally to all organizations and be in compliance with statutes in South Dakota

[2:10:40] going forward.

[2:10:41] Thus I'd like to request an item, part of the upcoming agenda, to discuss cities policy

[2:10:48] and process for improving taxpayer funds to private nonprofit organizations and all to be addressed prior to any Tony 27 funding distributions.

[2:11:03] So I throw that to the council and ask if you would like this to be on the agenda item to ensure compliance and how we handle this going forward.

[2:11:20] Did you say you want to implement this before that it's a 2027 money that we've just allocated in the budget?

[2:11:27] Did I hear that first?

[2:11:28] I think based on what the administration and council comes up with, I believe we would have to before we pay out any money.

[2:11:36] Why would we have to?

[2:11:39] It's federal and state laws.

[2:11:41] So Dean's deans agreement that we're not in control.

[2:11:45] No, I think I'm asking for research.

[2:11:49] Permission to have in research is because it is a very complicated issue when you're dealing

[2:11:53] because the statute clarifies that money may be appropriated to promote itself, which is

[2:12:01] a very broad term to what that means. It's not a black and white issue when it comes to taxpayer

[2:12:09] funding being given out.

[2:12:13] So what I'm asking is, does it counsel to put it on the agenda so we can

[2:12:17] conversation so I can bring some more information to you guys to discuss whether we

[2:12:22] how we address this in the future.

[2:12:26] And I think it's difficult to say if you have three

[2:12:30] items that you don't feel comfortable with. I think that's appropriate to have legal looking to.

[2:12:37] Yeah.

[2:12:40] Well I 100% think it's on violation of some state law we need to know that. So

[2:12:46] I mean, and that's my no legal interpretation to me. There's two kind of things going on in my head right now.

[2:12:55] One is setting up a policy to be consistent and transparent. And that can happen whether or not there's

[2:13:03] legal issue. Okay, and I'm not opposed to that setting up a more consistent guidelines to do that.

[2:13:12] But I'm like, if we're, if we're in compliance now, and that's a

[2:13:19] Dean question, I don't think we hold up to 2027 money that these

[2:13:24] organizations are, you know, they came in, it's in the budget. They're kind of

[2:13:28] expecting that they're building their budgets. And unless Dean comes back and

[2:13:32] say we're not compliance, I think they get that money. Whether we come up with

[2:13:36] another guideline framework policy that that's that's that's kind of my

[2:13:41] good job. Two different. Yeah agreed and that's step further than that not

[2:13:45] just been we have we have we're part of municipal league they have lawyers and

[2:13:50] stuff I mean that's why you go to the conferences and things like that to make sure

[2:13:56] I think I don't think we're really doing anything outside of what you know the scope of

[2:14:01] what almost all cities are doing but I agree with you if there's something

[2:14:06] I feel we should look at specifically, but I don't mean we don't want to be.

[2:14:10] I'm not a lawyer. I'm not. I'm none of us are.

[2:14:12] And that's what I'm requesting.

[2:14:14] No, not a lawyer, not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer.

[2:14:17] Not a lawyer. We need to be aware.

[2:14:19] And what I'm going to ask is if the city council would like to put that as an agenda item,

[2:14:25] so that we can become aware of going forward.

[2:14:27] I would lean into our administrator and finance officer as well.

[2:14:31] I'm not just on these.

[2:14:32] Yeah, because I definitely wouldn't have resources

[2:14:40] and I don't know if that takes a motion to give it an item on the agenda or if that's

[2:14:52] okay.

[2:14:57] Okay, I agree with you a little bit Wendy.

[2:15:01] Moving on to the next thing is on the paper is my report. I did have one, but I know it's anymore. That's right, that. Moving on to the exact session, then I guess we'll look for a motion to enter an exact session.

[2:15:17] some of.

[2:15:18] So second second.

[2:15:20] All those on favor of entering into exact session say five

[2:15:24] they both make.

[2:15:26] We are now entering into exact session.

[2:15:28] Exactly session and we will take a break if maybe.

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