[0:01] I'd like to call the DER Conservation

[0:02] Commission meeting to order.

[0:05] Ask everybody to silence their cell phones

[0:08] and we will start off with the pledge of reasons

[0:15] aye.

[0:16] To the flag. Flag, the United States of America

[0:20] and to the Republic Nation Nation.

[0:24] God, Liberty, justice.

[0:32] Thank you. Emergency access are located at the back

[0:37] of the room in to my right.

[0:39] If there's a problem or emergency in the building,

[0:41] please don't use the elevator.

[0:43] If you need help getting out of the building,

[0:46] please ask one of the commissioners for help.

[0:50] We'll start with the introduction

[0:51] of commissioners, starting to my right.

[0:54] Cheryl Holbert, J Hildreth. Rick Metz.

[0:58] Bob Spro, Ppi. Lin Comy.

[1:03] Val Connolly, Elizabeth Carver, land manager.

[1:07] And I'm the chair. Ricardo Bazinga.

[1:09] We also have our town Council liaison.

[1:13] Charles Foote, president of the meeting.

[1:18] First order of business we have is the approval of minutes

[1:20] of April 6th, 2026.

[1:23] Jay sent those out to you.

[1:24] And there is a copy here if someone needs to see them.

[1:29] If, if they're acceptable, I'll entertain a motion.

[1:33] Just have one correction. Mr. Chair.

[1:35] Yeah. Mr. Metz On page two.

[1:37] The first full paragraph is a

[1:40] repeat of the one prior to that.

[1:42] So I, I'd like to strike the second one on page two.

[1:53] Okay. Does everybody see that? Yep.

[1:56] And is there any other amendments we need to make?

[2:02] Seeing none. I'll take a motion

[2:05] to accept those minutes as amended.

[2:08] So moved. I'll take a motion. I need a motion.

[2:13] Oh, you wanna make a motion Move to approve

[2:14] The amen.

[2:15] The minutes is amended.

[2:16] All right. Is there a second? Second that a first. By Mr.

[2:19] Metz. Second by Mr. Sperl. All those in favor say aye.

[2:22] A Aye. Opposed? Abstention. Okay.

[2:26] We also have to seat and seat a commissioner.

[2:28] We're gonna have Linda sit for Eileen.

[2:33] Linda, would you like, could you sit for Eileen? Yes. Okay.

[2:35] Thank you.

[2:40] Next we have our chairs, re chairs report.

[2:44] We, we maintain a a,

[2:46] we're still maintaining a pretty busy schedule in

[2:50] between meetings with correspondence with numerous

[2:54] town departments and town leadership.

[2:58] At least one weekly call with our land manager, Beth.

[3:02] Usually more than one usually turns into two

[3:05] or three weekly calls

[3:06] and a lot of correspondence moving our agenda.

[3:09] I'm gonna leave the, the meat of that to the land manager

[3:13] and have her give out the report.

[3:15] 'cause she's quarterbacking pretty much everything we're

[3:17] doing in between meetings as far as correspondence, we have

[3:22] the annual report from Rockingham County

[3:25] Conservation District.

[3:26] This is money that we, we send money to this group

[3:30] and they're gonna tell, they sh tell you in this report

[3:33] how they spend it and what they're doing.

[3:34] I'm gonna hand it to my left.

[3:43] Okay. We have a site plan review.

[3:46] It's PID 5 1 0 8 4 74 Beaver Lake Ave.

[3:53] Cuomo, Cuomo's Beach Redevelopment.

[3:56] This is, I think it's Brandon's second

[4:00] or third time here on this project.

[4:04] I myself have walked it twice. I know. Eileen.

[4:07] Anyone else that's here now walk it.

[4:09] I know Eileen walked it with me.

[4:10] Ricky, did you walk it with me? No, no I didn't.

[4:14] Someone else was there. Let's see. Probably James.

[4:18] Was it James? Who was with me that day? Was it Eileen?

[4:24] Yeah. So we, I've walked it twice.

[4:28] This is Comos Beach, if anyone's familiar

[4:30] with, with Beaver Lake.

[4:31] It's, it's, we, it used to be like a,

[4:35] like a private public beach area

[4:37] where people in the neighborhood would go down and,

[4:39] and, and use this beach.

[4:40] It's been abandoned for, I would say I,

[4:42] I've lived in the lake for 22 years and,

[4:44] and it was abandoned when I got there.

[4:45] So it's been a, been abandoned for a while.

[4:49] So it looks like Brandon has gone to DES

[4:54] and is was back in front of the TRC with Mr.

[4:57] Metz recently. He's gonna tell us all about it.

[4:59] Brandon, can you set up state your name for the record?

[5:07] Good evening. My name is Brandon Wing

[5:08] from Promised Land Survey.

[5:12] Yeah, this has been, been it called

[5:14] before. What's it called? I'm sorry. What's

[5:15] That? What's the new name?

[5:17] Brandon Wing from Promised Land Survey. Oh, it's still

[5:19] Promised land.

[5:20] It's still the same, same joint. Yeah. I

[5:22] Thought, I thought, I thought Tim changed the name. No.

[5:24] Okay. So Again,

[5:28] Yeah, this has been before the commission.

[5:31] Before I, I think just once.

[5:34] It's been before the TRCI think twice.

[5:39] Three once. Three times. Three times. I think I lost track.

[5:42] It's beens been seen a whole bunch.

[5:46] I I provided two sets of plans.

[5:48] One is what, what we will likely be taken

[5:53] to the planning board.

[5:55] Let's do, Brendan, if I could just get,

[5:57] just get you get some direction on this.

[5:58] 'cause there's a lot of material we're

[5:59] gonna have to go through.

[6:01] Why don't we do the, the subdivision plan first? Okay.

[6:04] Let's run through that and then maybe touch upon the d This

[6:08] is gonna have a DES permit on

[6:09] It, right?

[6:10] It it has, I I have already Yes.

[6:11] Gotten the permit. Yes. Okay.

[6:13] And just before you go through the site,

[6:15] well let's do the site plan

[6:16] and then we'll talk about that other piece.

[6:17] Okay. Let's do this, let's do the subdivision plan first.

[6:19] And, and for protocol reasons,

[6:21] this subdivision plan needs a vote by the commission.

[6:25] Yep. For the chair to sign the plan

[6:27] because of the subdivision in the wetland impact,

[6:31] maybe not the wetland impact.

[6:32] 'cause you're going right to DS on that

[6:34] or is it also for the wetland impact?

[6:36] Well, when I went to TRC before I went

[6:40] and came, I, I walked in with you

[6:42] and we kind of agreed that certain things had

[6:46] to be address down in the wetland.

[6:47] Right. There's a building in the wetland. Sure.

[6:49] There's a failed drainage, which is doing no good.

[6:51] It's just a pipe laying in the wetland

[6:53] and the wetland's flowing right by it. So, but,

[6:56] But protocol wise, the subdivision,

[6:57] the subdivision plan needs, needs,

[6:59] needs a signature by the chair.

[7:01] Right, right. And that's why, that's kind

[7:02] of why we walked it and we were like, and

[7:05] because you weren't gonna sign off on it

[7:07] before the first TRC, which under understood and I agree.

[7:10] Yeah. So

[7:11] We pushed back on it the first time.

[7:13] 'cause we've, we discovered even Brandon discovered some

[7:16] new stuff when we went to look at it.

[7:17] Right. So that part we need, we need to get a vote on that.

[7:20] And then do, is there,

[7:21] is there a vote needed on the DES stuff? Or is DES

[7:24] No, I, I already came for to you for that. Okay.

[7:27] And then, so what'll happen is when DES issues the permit,

[7:30] we'll get notified and then we can comment on that permit.

[7:35] So for tonight's work,

[7:38] we're gonna get a presentation for a subdivision.

[7:41] And if, if the presentation satisfies the commissioners,

[7:46] we're gonna, we're gonna potentially vote on that tonight

[7:50] for a signature on that plan.

[7:51] Is that, do I got, do I have that right?

[7:53] I I love it. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Alright, fire away.

[7:57] So I have, I have gotten the de the, the

[8:01] DES permit already.

[8:03] Okay. I have to go for shoreland also,

[8:05] but I've gotten the, the impact permit for the removal

[8:09] of the building and restoration of the wetland.

[8:14] So let's do the subdivision. But

[8:15] That was, that was kind of part

[8:17] of meeting the requirements

[8:19] for the subdivision from, from the commission.

[8:21] Okay. I I think that was my understanding. Got it.

[8:24] But yeah, the, the,

[8:27] the subdivision plan is the one with six sheets.

[8:30] You'll see on the right hand side

[8:32] subdivision overview plan sheet one of six.

[8:35] That, that set is the one we'll be looking at. I'm gonna

[8:39] Hold it up.

[8:40] It's this one of the two that you have. It's that one. Yep.

[8:44] Okay.

[8:47] Yeah. There's, there's enough frontage

[8:50] and land area for a two lot subdivision.

[8:53] We received a variance

[8:54] for access on a non town approved road,

[8:57] which is Jenny Dickey Hill Road for the second lot.

[9:03] There's, there's existing easements on the property

[9:09] for access to some people that live on the lake.

[9:12] Also. There's sewer easements owned by the town

[9:15] and there's rights to

[9:19] several, several of the abutters, like on Charleston

[9:24] and up that way to use the beach down there.

[9:29] So the subdivision plan, I'm trying to clean up the,

[9:32] clean up the math of the easements a little bit

[9:34] because there's, there's just ease.

[9:37] There's rights that are named

[9:39] but not clean, not not defined.

[9:43] So we're trying to define those.

[9:54] You guys probably don't necessarily care much about

[9:58] site distance, but I've, we've,

[10:00] we've achieved safe site distance per town regulations.

[10:06] The biggest the biggest issue

[10:09] conservation wise is the wetland down in the back,

[10:11] which were, which I've taken through the permitting process

[10:16] with the d the DES

[10:19] and we're proposing to remove the existing beach house

[10:24] and the failed drainage

[10:26] and restore the wetland instead

[10:27] of trying to fix the drainage.

[10:29] It, there was no point in fixing the drainage.

[10:31] The wetland flows right by it.

[10:32] It's, it's a pipe laying in a wetland.

[10:35] So that's, that's kind of a brief summary of the project.

[10:46] So You're, you're taking, you're taking one lot,

[10:49] you're dividing it into two,

[10:51] you have some proposed dwelling areas on it.

[10:53] Does everyone see where those are?

[10:55] We're kind of up near the road.

[11:00] It's on municipal sewer, which we'll be tying into.

[11:08] And we propose private wells, onsite wells,

[11:13] and Yes, a two lot subdivision.

[11:15] Two turning the one lot into two lots, two

[11:18] single family residential lots.

[11:29] And the lake is, the lake is one part of town

[11:31] that actually has towns soar.

[11:33] Which is, which is a good thing.

[11:37] Otherwise the lake would be dead. Yeah.

[11:39] So we, we got that back in the eighties.

[11:41] They, they tied all the houses into the town sewer system.

[11:55] So Brandon, based on the, based on the plan that I see now

[11:59] with the gravel path, it, it appears that you're only

[12:05] crossing, you're, you're just on the edge

[12:07] of the wetland delineated wetlands

[12:10] and you're only crossing the wetlands down

[12:12] towards the beach.

[12:13] And it looks like a small section

[12:15] of crossing with that gravel

[12:16] path. Am I correct or incorrect?

[12:18] Yeah, that is, that is correct.

[12:22] We'll, we'll talk about the impact plan in a minute. Yep.

[12:25] But yeah, proposing a, a walkway essentially through

[12:29] where the building is because,

[12:30] because there's, there's rights that exist to use the,

[12:34] the beach for, for bathing

[12:37] as you know, according to the deeds.

[12:39] Right. So we have to, you know,

[12:43] make sure people can get there, basically.

[12:58] And we'd like to define where they can get there instead

[13:01] of just going wherever they want through the wetland.

[13:03] We'd wanna just, just define where they,

[13:05] where they access would be.

[13:12] Okay. So on, on the subdivision plan,

[13:13] and we're going to, we're gonna take up,

[13:15] we're gonna have questions on the, on the other plan also,

[13:21] do the commissioners want to hear about the DES project

[13:25] before we act on the subdivision plan?

[13:29] We're kinda like wearing two hats on this project.

[13:32] From the d from the subdivision plan.

[13:35] Conservation commission approves the subdivision

[13:38] or doesn't approve the subdivision.

[13:41] On the DES piece, we can

[13:48] Comment to DES based on, based on the,

[13:53] the, the DES permit.

[13:54] So DES issues, the permit, we get noted, we get notified

[13:57] that that permit has been issued

[13:59] and then we that choose to

[14:04] comment or not comment on that, on that plan.

[14:09] Like, one of the comments we might wanna make is

[14:12] that we prefer the boardwalk over the gravel

[14:16] pathway or vice versa.

[14:18] May maybe, maybe we prefer it the other way,

[14:21] but just from a, from a protocol standpoint, do you want

[14:24] to hear about the DES piece

[14:26] or do you want to act on the subdivision first?

[14:29] Gimme some, gimme some feedback.

[14:31] I like to hear about The DES piece.

[14:33] Hear about the DS piece? Yes, that'd be great. Yeah. Okay.

[14:35] Alright. Definitely. Yeah.

[14:37] I, I think it's, I think that's a good idea.

[14:39] I think it's integral to the,

[14:41] Alright, good.

[14:42] So good. Fire. Tell tell us how this DESP.

[14:44] So, so there's a building there.

[14:46] You're gonna take the, the buildings in the wetland

[14:47] Built in the wetland, correct?

[14:49] Yep. Tell us, tell us all about that.

[14:51] How you plan on getting rid of that building

[14:53] and then how you plan on dealing with getting people down

[14:55] to the, down to the water.

[14:58] So there, yeah, there's obviously a building.

[15:02] When I delineated the wetlands, I, I went literally

[15:04] to the building corners

[15:05] and to the corner of pavement or whatever around it.

[15:09] 'cause if it wasn't there, the wetland would continue.

[15:12] But there's, there's a building, so it's not a wetland.

[15:15] Once you remove the building, it'll be a wetland.

[15:20] How you gonna move? How, how do you remove the building?

[15:22] I'm curious.

[15:23] Helicopter. Helicopter. No, just kidding.

[15:26] I'm not doing it personally.

[15:29] The, i, I got a impact permit to dredge

[15:33] and fill, to remove the building

[15:35] with excavators with equipment.

[15:39] It's a minimum impact. So it's less than 3000 square feet.

[15:43] So like those mats, you put the mats down and,

[15:45] and then pull 'em back up again.

[15:47] How do, how do you get an excavator down?

[15:49] Oh, there's a, there's a gravel, there's a gravel access

[15:52] through there already that's not in the wetland.

[15:53] So they can actually get to the building itself. Right.

[15:56] And the, and the southwest corner

[15:58] of the building is, is high.

[16:00] So that's not a wetland. And they can, they can get

[16:02] to it without, without impacting wetland. So they can

[16:04] Get that whole building from that, that corner.

[16:06] They don't have to go on the other side.

[16:07] Yep, yep. They can get to it

[16:08] that way They can pull the building out, break it.

[16:12] Oh wow. Remove it. Whatever they need to do.

[16:14] But they actually have, i, I have a permitted impact area

[16:18] that they can drive in the wetland

[16:20] and remove all the concrete

[16:23] or whatever they need to, including that drainage pipe

[16:26] and the concrete structure right on sheet one,

[16:29] right in the middle, you can see concrete structure

[16:31] of the chain link fence cover.

[16:33] It's like a concrete box that nothing can flow into it.

[16:37] I don't know why it's even there, but it was put there like

[16:40] years ago and it's doing no good.

[16:44] And you're gonna take all the car, all that whole

[16:46] Come out.

[16:47] Yep. We removing that, grading that out

[16:48] and seeding it with wetland mix,

[16:50] two different wetland mix seeds.

[16:53] Okay. So basically that section that's,

[16:55] that they're gonna impact to remove the building

[16:58] and that failed drainage will be restored

[17:02] as a wetland, accept the path.

[17:09] But to get there, machinery can get

[17:13] to it without impacting the wetland.

[17:15] But they do have to impact the wetland.

[17:17] Where, where they're gonna do the work, retrieve

[17:20] The building.

[17:22] Is that gonna be a raised boardwalk?

[17:25] Well, there was a lot of conversation about

[17:27] that at the TRC boardwalk

[17:32] sounds nice and pretty and it would be nice,

[17:35] but it won't last forever.

[17:38] So there's gonna be a point where it'll need maintenance.

[17:42] So there was discussion about how would you police that?

[17:46] Who who would maintain it? Who would pay for it.

[17:51] And when you do, if, if someone were to maintain it,

[17:55] it's gonna require additional wetland impact essentially.

[18:00] So the conversation we had at TRC is that, and,

[18:03] and it seemed like there was consensus

[18:06] that people would rather just have a trail

[18:08] or a path through the wetland instead of a raised boardwalk.

[18:15] Beth, you were there

[18:16] and that kind of sounded like what people were saying.

[18:20] I, I think Yep, I agree. And Rick was there as well.

[18:23] So I I don't necessarily disagree.

[18:26] I think it would be nicer looking to have a boardwalk

[18:31] but less practicable and practical.

[18:34] Does he, is that gonna change the,

[18:36] the wetland permit at all?

[18:40] I don't know. I don't know probably.

[18:44] But when the building is removed, it, it, we might have

[18:48] to see how the wetland behaves, how it looks,

[18:50] what it's gonna, what it's gonna look like.

[18:53] And then if I have to go back for an amended permit,

[18:55] then I'll do so at that point.

[18:57] So, but I, if the commission has to agree

[18:59] with it, you know. Yeah. So

[19:00] If you don't do the, so if you don't do the, you've been,

[19:04] so the permit you have now is for boardwalk, right?

[19:06] Yep. Yes. Right. So if you don't do the boardwalk

[19:08] and do the gravel, you're gonna more likely than

[19:10] not need an amendment permit.

[19:11] I don't think they'll consider Right.

[19:13] The gravel path and,

[19:15] and that, so if that happens, just so you know,

[19:18] from our perspective, so if they amend the permit,

[19:21] then we get notified again

[19:23] and saying, Hey, this previously approved DES permit has

[19:27] been amended for these reasons.

[19:31] And then we get, we have another opportunity to,

[19:34] to kind of chime in on it.

[19:37] Yeah. All right.

[19:42] Any, any questions for the commissioners on,

[19:44] on, on this project?

[19:52] It's come a long way from when I walked it

[19:56] the two years ago, probably Bernard,

[19:59] There was snow on the ground.

[20:00] That's all I remember. It's

[20:01] Definitely not this one that cold.

[20:02] It was the winter winter before, right?

[20:04] Last year maybe, or the year before. I don't know, year or

[20:06] Month ago.

[20:07] Maybe you'll, you are likely aware of the, the new DES

[20:12] department, the ecological review committee

[20:15] or whatever, ecological, it's, it's like a new thing.

[20:19] Every, everything you take to the state wetlands

[20:24] and shoreland wise

[20:25] and a OT wise, it, you have to send a packet

[20:29] for ecological review to, to look at and they give you it.

[20:33] It's, it's related to the NHB Natural Heritage Bureau.

[20:38] So you'd go on, you go online and,

[20:40] and mark out your boundaries on the data checker tool

[20:43] and you send it to them and they review it.

[20:45] They can no longer legally tell you if there are endangered

[20:49] species on your on.

[20:51] They can't tell me if I work for you.

[20:54] They can tell you if there's endangered species on your

[20:56] land, but they can't tell anyone else.

[20:59] So they just give you like a general,

[21:02] you'll see on sheet four of four of

[21:04] that plant set blandings spotted in wood turtles.

[21:08] Those are in the vicinity.

[21:11] But I happened to get this in before the law changed

[21:14] and I saw where they were

[21:16] and it was like two miles up the road

[21:18] and one was like a female blandings turtle

[21:20] with a damaged eye.

[21:21] And it, it's, you know, it's just habitat for these turtles,

[21:26] but they weren't spotted on the property.

[21:33] My opinion is that neither a boardwalk

[21:37] nor a gravel trail will harm the turtles at all.

[21:42] I think if, if we were to build something so that the,

[21:47] the water was like rerouted from the wetland to a pipe

[21:50] or something to cross the gravel trail

[21:52] or whatever, we, whatever it would be proposed in the

[21:55] future, it would impound that wetland

[21:58] and that whatever the, the dam

[22:01] or whatever it is, re retaining wall, whatever,

[22:04] that would be more detrimental

[22:07] to turtle habitat than just a trail.

[22:17] And this is only foot traffic by the way, on, on this.

[22:19] It's only foot traffic allowed.

[22:29] So with the recommendation from TRC against maybe against

[22:32] the boardwalk with long-term maintenance and stuff,

[22:34] and then gravel trail already kind

[22:36] of being positioned there, especially with access.

[22:38] Sounds like it'd make the most sense to just continue

[22:41] that gravel trail after

[22:44] The consensus was, and especially from the town engineer

[22:47] that the gravel trail versus the boardwalk would be

[22:51] a much more palatable.

[22:52] Yeah. Again, lower maintenance, less intrusion.

[22:56] How are you gonna build a boardwalk through the wetlands?

[22:59] How are you gonna maintain it? All of those things

[23:02] where the gravel walk kind of goes around

[23:04] beside it crosses at a small section and,

[23:07] and heads to the beach.

[23:09] So

[23:22] Any more comments or questions from the commission?

[23:25] Alright, so protocol would be, if, if, if it is the,

[23:31] the intent of the commission would be a motion

[23:33] to have the chair sign the plan

[23:36] and then we take that, we take a vote on that.

[23:39] If so, if anyone interested in making that motion, they may,

[23:43] we need to first, a second and then a vote.

[23:47] Move to approve the plan

[23:48] and have the chair sign the plans as presented

[23:52] for 74 Cuomos beach second.

[23:55] Alright, Riva, first and a second on the floor.

[23:58] I'm gonna ask for a roll call on this starting

[23:59] to my right shall yes? Yes.

[24:02] Jay? Yes, Rick, yes, yes,

[24:06] Yes, yes, yes.

[24:08] I'm gonna vote no. So there'll be, it'll be

[24:13] 1, 2, 6

[24:14] to

[24:14] 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 1 6 yeses.

[24:20] One. No, thank you Brenda. Thank you.

[24:26] Thanks Brenda.

[24:52] Okay, moving on.

[24:53] We have Jay with the community garden report.

[24:57] Okay. This is a really the most exciting

[25:01] time of the year for us.

[25:03] The snow's melted and the mud kind of

[25:06] didn't really appear like you'd expect.

[25:09] Certainly wasn't like last year. A much drier early season.

[25:14] And we are ready to

[25:19] create the, to execute the plan to get

[25:24] the garden amended with soil and manure

[25:28] and tilled In the week

[25:33] before, during the weekday,

[25:36] before we have an event on that next Saturday, which will be

[25:41] bringing our gardeners together help

[25:45] and asking for help to stake the plots,

[25:51] doing a demo on how to create a raised bed,

[25:55] doing a plant exchange

[26:00] and just something to bring in the new season.

[26:03] By that point, we should, people should be able to

[26:09] start gardening and putting seeds and, and plants in.

[26:13] We're looking at, this is being a much earlier season than

[26:16] last year, which was the end, literally the very end

[26:21] of May last year.

[26:23] It's much drier.

[26:24] I've done two soil squeeze tests

[26:28] and falls apart.

[26:31] I just tonight going by, I did it again.

[26:34] Even with the rain still soil's breaking apart.

[26:38] There's not that excess moisture

[26:40] that would prevent us from being able to till now.

[26:45] We have to get the, we have to get the amendments together,

[26:49] the manure and the fertilizer.

[26:51] I have procured a dump luck, a

[26:57] he told me a 10 wheel dump truck load, which is about

[27:02] 275 to 300

[27:05] and cubic feet worth of

[27:08] 6, 6 5 to six month aged manure,

[27:13] cow manure right across my street.

[27:16] We sometimes smell the results of that.

[27:20] And so he is willing to take his

[27:26] 200 square feet trailer and,

[27:33] and haul it over.

[27:34] It'll be multiple halls

[27:38] until he gives up, I suppose. But

[27:40] Who's he now, Jay?

[27:42] Okay. So his name is Manny

[27:44] and he's, he's my neighbor on

[27:48] 1315 Walnut Hill Road.

[27:52] So he is doing it just in kind. He,

[27:54] He has cows and he is a farmer.

[27:57] He's just doing it as, as

[27:58] A, just doing it to, because donation, the cows have been

[28:02] in inside so long, they've been busy this year

[28:04] that the pile's extra big.

[28:06] So he's, he's actually given us the manure and hauling it.

[28:09] He's giving it and hauling it. And

[28:11] So we, we need to write this gentleman a letter.

[28:13] Yeah. Beth. And, and thank him please for, for that.

[28:17] And can we, can we say his name in public? Is that okay?

[28:20] Sure. What's his name?

[28:22] It's Manny. Oh boy.

[28:25] What's his, he's, he's Portuguese.

[28:29] I'll have to get that last name. Yeah, let's

[28:31] Make sure that we let the public know

[28:32] that Manny's hooking us up with some primo manure.

[28:36] Yeah, Manny and Maria, they have a including

[28:39] And delivering It.

[28:40] They have a, a little farm stand

[28:42] and they have some good produce coming off those

[28:45] cow feed. Wow,

[28:47] That's great.

[28:48] That's, that's awesome. Good.

[28:48] Jay, that's, that's really good's you.

[28:50] So when it comes to the fertilizer, the

[28:56] gardening subcommittee had a, a live

[29:00] meeting last week, last Monday.

[29:03] And it was really a good synergy

[29:04] that was created by meeting together.

[29:06] And we decided that the fertilizer we would a,

[29:11] we would ask the commission to try to fund the,

[29:16] the fertilizer that was commend recommended.

[29:20] Now I worked off of a soil test I took in the fall

[29:25] and those recommendations from the soil analysis, I

[29:31] converted it into the entire 7,200

[29:36] square feet of the garden plot.

[29:39] That's 36, 10 by 20 plots.

[29:44] And I wrote up a analysis, a calculation,

[29:48] and I also did work on finding

[29:52] the best products, best price and best analysis.

[29:56] And I have that to submit

[29:59] tonight for approval.

[30:03] I have that up too. So I'll take care of

[30:05] that motion. Jay, when you're

[30:06] Okay.

[30:07] When you're done with your report.

[30:09] So what we're feeling is that this,

[30:12] based on the soil analysis, the, the soil was really,

[30:15] it was impoverished.

[30:18] You could tell it had been really gardened a lot

[30:21] because there was a lot of phosphorus,

[30:22] which accumulates year

[30:24] after year, people putting in various kinds of fertilizers.

[30:27] But the phosphorus builds up,

[30:29] but yet the potassium in the,

[30:31] the nitrogen in the organic matter we're extremely low.

[30:35] So we really would like to give a nice boost

[30:38] to this, to this garden.

[30:40] We can't let it go fallow for a year.

[30:43] We need to keep working it.

[30:44] But with manure in these amendments,

[30:47] these organic amendments,

[30:49] we think the gardener's gonna have a real quality year.

[30:55] So that's it.

[30:57] Thank you Jay. And thank you for

[31:00] all your hard work on that.

[31:01] That's, that's, you did a lot of work on that.

[31:05] So Jay has recommended two types of,

[31:10] of fertilizer for the, for the gardens.

[31:16] And he, we did have a conversation before the meeting.

[31:18] He thinks that this will probably be

[31:20] not be an annual thing, right Jay?

[31:23] It's gonna be, we we're probably not

[31:26] gonna do this again next year.

[31:27] The, the organic part of it.

[31:29] The manure, yes. But maybe not the

[31:30] Manure.

[31:31] The manure, yes. And we'll do an analysis in the fall,

[31:36] so we'll determine if there's an improvement.

[31:38] Okay. And go from there. I'll come back and comment.

[31:42] Okay. So, so what he's recommending is

[31:46] that we get two types

[31:47] of fertilizer.

[31:51] One is from a company called North County Organics

[31:55] and another one is from Greenway Biotech.

[31:59] The one from North Count Country Organics is $376

[32:03] and 84 cents, including the shipping.

[32:07] The one from Greenway Biotech is $387

[32:11] and that includes the shipping.

[32:13] The total for both of them is $763 and 84 cents.

[32:19] So if it is the pleasure

[32:20] of the commission, I'm gonna make a motion.

[32:25] I trust Jay's diligence on this project

[32:29] and I'd like to make a motion

[32:30] that we authorize the treasurer to app.

[32:35] We authorize the commission approves to spend up to

[32:41] $780 on

[32:46] the fertilizer that I just talked about.

[32:52] And we need a second on that. Second.

[32:55] So you were first and a second. All those in favor say aye.

[32:58] Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, that's unanimous.

[33:02] So, so Jay, you're gonna coordinate with Eileen on getting,

[33:07] getting that taken care of.

[33:09] Okay. Okay. Alright. Thank you Jay. Mr.

[33:14] Metz personnel. Nothing new on personnel

[33:19] and public outreach, Cheryl?

[33:22] Well, we had a great meeting a week ago Thursday,

[33:27] and there have been, there have been a number of really

[33:32] colorful looking Facebook posts,

[33:34] the last one being the Earth Day cleanup.

[33:37] And Eileen was at Coffee Factory passing out gloves

[33:41] and plastic bags.

[33:42] So that was a really nice presence there.

[33:45] We did get some good events on the calendar.

[33:50] Of course, she was there on the 18th.

[33:53] Beth is working on the Wildfire Community Preparedness

[33:56] for May 2nd, June 27th, the BioBlitz day.

[34:01] Another thing that Beth is very involved in,

[34:03] and the idea is that we come alongside that

[34:06] and document that and make the public aware of that

[34:09] through our social media and things.

[34:11] Another exciting one that came up is that we are going

[34:13] to be at the dairy farmer's market.

[34:16] There is a, we grow Wednesday in August

[34:19] and I'm actually a vendor at the market,

[34:21] but I will be doing, putting on a different hat

[34:24] for the commission that day.

[34:25] And I think a couple of the others will, will join me.

[34:28] And the idea is to just like, has it have it as it's,

[34:31] we're gonna be in the communitarian booth that day.

[34:35] I think I did hear from the vendor committee

[34:37] that we could do another week if we wanted to as well.

[34:40] So we'll talk about that at our next meeting.

[34:42] But we definitely bookmarked August 12th

[34:47] and I submitted an application for us as vendors.

[34:50] That will be like a small fee. I think it's $25 for the day.

[34:53] Or is it for Communitarians? It's free.

[34:55] Oh, free for communitarian. That's right.

[34:58] So that will be coming up

[34:59] and the idea is to, to bring promotional materials,

[35:01] maybe having some kind of like IDing plants, a hands-on

[35:05] for kids that are coming to the market

[35:08] or an a t-shirt raffle,

[35:10] just like make it a really fun experiential

[35:12] but also promotional material.

[35:14] So we're very excited to being at the farmer's market.

[35:16] Linda and I will be there anyway and yeah, so that,

[35:20] and we'll be meeting again I think this Thursday.

[35:23] So we're just gonna keep that moving forward.

[35:27] That's great. Thank you Cheryl.

[35:29] I, I like the, the energy and the enthusiasm.

[35:32] That's fantastic. Mr. Metz. TRC. We had

[35:36] One TRC this past Friday.

[35:39] They, it's a two lot subdivision,

[35:42] but it does have significant wetland impact on it.

[35:47] So they're gonna hopefully schedule to be, we,

[35:50] we gave 'em the date, right Beth?

[35:52] We Did had to by to be for the fourth. So May 4th.

[35:56] Hopefully fourth, yeah. And it was Brandon again. So it's,

[35:58] What, what's the address?

[35:59] Do you know? Remember?

[36:01] Yeah, it's Furland Drive. Oh, Furland, okay, got

[36:04] It.

[36:05] That's part of the Shields Brook. Yep.

[36:08] Wetlands on that side. Okay, got it.

[36:10] Yeah, so it's, it's only two lot.

[36:12] It's two lots, but since it's a wetland impact then it,

[36:16] it has to come before us.

[36:17] And that's coming, that's gonna come May 4th

[36:19] I think.

[36:20] May 4th If he's, if he got it, yeah,

[36:21] He hasn't sent in about it yet,

[36:23] but we did talk about that at the TRC. Yeah.

[36:26] Okay. Other than that, that's it.

[36:28] Alright. Thank you Mr. Metz. Property management.

[36:32] We, we did get a communication from a gentleman by the name

[36:36] of Mr.

[36:38] Fong. Kby Fong.

[36:42] And he is with an organization called Eco Ecological Land

[36:47] Management and Stewardship, LLC.

[36:52] And this, this is a, this is a, an organization that kind of

[36:57] is something we've been looking for for a long time.

[36:59] They basically provide support services

[37:01] to conservation commissions in the form of mowing and,

[37:04] and you know, stuff that we kind

[37:07] of have always had a little trouble securing.

[37:10] They, they kind of offer it, offer a, a menu

[37:14] of different services to conservation commissions.

[37:19] So we corresponded actually, I, I sent it to Beth,

[37:23] Beth corresponded back to them saying that as, as projects,

[37:28] they do forestry, they do aous stuff, they do, you know,

[37:32] even trail maintenance I believe, right?

[37:34] Yeah. Trail maintenance. They do, they do it all.

[37:39] And for us, you know, it's,

[37:40] you can't always get volunteers to do stuff.

[37:42] So we're gonna, we're gonna be reaching out to them

[37:44] as projects come up that we can handle.

[37:47] I think it's a, it's a great business venture

[37:50] because it's, I'm sure

[37:51] that most conservation commissions are in the same position

[37:53] that we are with, you know, having,

[37:55] having needs for that stuff.

[37:57] So Beth Replied said, thanks so much.

[38:01] We'll we'll be reaching out

[38:03] to you in the future if we, if we need your service.

[38:05] So that was, that was cool.

[38:06] And it'd be nice to have a backup like that when, when we,

[38:11] we have a list of projects to take care of and,

[38:13] and have a professional organization be able to do it.

[38:19] And other property management stuff.

[38:22] We'll have, we'll leave it to Beth,

[38:23] but we have some tree work happening.

[38:26] Kind of an interesting new piece of equipment.

[38:29] One of the, one of the people that

[38:32] provided a price on a, on a,

[38:34] on a tree removal, it's called a spider.

[38:36] Spider, right? It's kind of a low impact machine

[38:41] that can get in really tight quarters

[38:45] and it's more economical than bringing in a big crane.

[38:48] And it's kind of like, almost like when a guy climbs a tree

[38:51] for hazardous take down.

[38:52] So it's kind of like a climber,

[38:54] but it has a little bit more ability.

[38:57] And Beth will go over those, those proposals at her.

[39:02] And then the other thing I'll just touch upon is we have a,

[39:04] we had a problem with the Margie

[39:09] Ives conservation property.

[39:10] The sign there got pushed on a little bit from,

[39:15] from, and I'm not even sure if that happened all this year,

[39:17] but there the, there was some snow pushed against it

[39:20] and it's leaning over and we talked

[39:23] to the town administrator

[39:24] and there's some funds available to, to help fix that up.

[39:28] And I think BET will probably touch upon

[39:30] that in her report also.

[39:32] So that's what we're doing on property ma management.

[39:35] Next is Bob Spro at Land Maintenance.

[39:41] So we did have one more meeting

[39:43] and we've got one scheduled for the 14th

[39:46] talking about stewardship, the file that the people,

[39:50] the stewards would get.

[39:53] Other than that, I haven't got anything.

[39:55] Okay, thanks. Pope Lee acquisition.

[39:59] Has anyone walked that, don't say the name of the property,

[40:02] but is has anyone walked that property

[40:03] that we were considering pursuing?

[40:07] No. Alright, so I think it's been kind of too long.

[40:10] So if I'm gonna ask for a a,

[40:14] I'm gonna ask for a motion,

[40:18] maybe we should do that non-public.

[40:25] No, I don't think we have to.

[40:27] I think we can have a motion without talking about

[40:29] what the property is to pursue next steps.

[40:34] How do you feel about that? No. Okay. Alright.

[40:37] So we'll, so we'll we're gonna have a quick non-public

[40:40] after this meeting and

[40:45] other land acquisitions.

[40:47] There's three projects that we're, we're pursuing.

[40:49] Nothing has moved forward on any of the three.

[40:53] And then when we in, in non-public, we'll talk about maybe

[40:56] pushing on one of the three a little bit higher

[41:02] reporting compliance, well

[41:04] Nothing new to actually report on reporting compliance.

[41:07] Okay. And you're also on net zero?

[41:09] Yes. Net zero. We did have that meeting. Lemme pull up.

[41:13] I thought I had it ready. So they are

[41:17] continuing watching legislation that project

[41:20] that they had me do some educational kind of brochure

[41:24] for people in terms of international energy

[41:27] conservation codes.

[41:29] Basic yeah efficiency codes and stuff.

[41:32] The state was looking to push them up to 2024

[41:34] as like required for new builds.

[41:37] However, it kind of fell back again. So we're still in 2018.

[41:40] So that's something that they've been kind

[41:42] of keeping on their docket to outreach to the public

[41:46] hearing back on things for contracts for, you know,

[41:49] the new parking garage, things like that.

[41:52] Metering getting done at the solar field.

[41:55] And they're getting some feedback too about the hybrids

[41:57] and EVs that the town has had to kind of see

[41:59] and recommend that more for the town to transition.

[42:04] And yeah, I think that about covers it. Quick rundown.

[42:06] Great. Thank you Val, this councilor foot,

[42:12] anything from the, from the council?

[42:14] You'd like to talk about town? Town related stuff?

[42:17] Yeah, real quick Mr. Chair. Thank you.

[42:19] So at last meeting you had asked about more

[42:22] funds for the conservation.

[42:23] I did reach out to you and the vice chair, so

[42:26] For rest and, and you and you hit a home run. Yeah. Yeah.

[42:28] Thanks. So just for the rest of the committee, I,

[42:32] I did speak with the town administrator

[42:33] and we're gonna propose this year

[42:36] roughly $12,800 in addition to the 5,000 you normally get.

[42:40] That's only gonna be for three years.

[42:42] And then that will go away

[42:43] and it'll just be resort back to the regular 5,000.

[42:45] So this year potentially you get close

[42:48] to 18,000 for the next three years.

[42:52] Tomorrow we have a public hearing

[42:54] and that's to accept the easement

[42:55] for the Ashley Drive SCOBY Pond Road area

[42:59] and also there'll be new business for the acceptance

[43:03] of the Broadview farm agreement that you guys are aware of.

[43:07] Is, is everyone aware

[43:08] of the Broad Broadview farm agreement?

[43:11] Sorry to interrupt you. Council foot?

[43:13] No. Is that like the renewal of the easement?

[43:16] So no, the Broadview farm, we've had this handshake deal

[43:19] with the guy that Oh, that farming it,

[43:22] that farms Broadview farm.

[43:25] The cornfield in the back.

[43:26] Yeah, I don't, I don't love handshake deals.

[43:28] So we've, we, we actually have a contract.

[43:32] We're, we're executing a contract with the numerical value.

[43:38] It is that he is to provide

[43:43] either $750 in, in kind

[43:47] services to the town.

[43:49] And if he's unable to do that,

[43:50] he's gonna write the town a check

[43:52] for $750 if he doesn't have time to do in kind services.

[43:57] As far as long as I've been on the commission,

[44:00] it's been a handshake with Phil and Margie

[44:05] and Paul Dion and, and even James.

[44:08] It's just kind of been an understanding.

[44:10] I, and we, at least while I'm chair I want to get rid

[44:13] of anything, anything like that.

[44:15] I, I'd like to see everything papered up

[44:16] and make it a little cleaner for the person

[44:20] that sits in my chair later.

[44:21] So we, we talked to the town administrator about that

[44:25] and he's got it on Charlie's agenda

[44:27] for tomorrow to be approved.

[44:29] So thank you Charlie, continue. Sorry. So

[44:31] That, that's it.

[44:32] And that would basically erase any ambiguity moving forward

[44:34] and it's, it is what it's, so regardless who the people are,

[44:38] it will always be something there in, in writing. So

[44:40] Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's

[44:42] Good.

[44:43] If he doesn't provide in kind, does that money come to us

[44:46] or does it go to the general fund?

[44:49] Not sure. I, I know we did the contract here,

[44:51] I can't remember what that, what the

[44:53] stipulation was in the contract.

[44:54] I'm not a hundred percent sure. Okay. I was look into it.

[44:57] It Doesn't specify in the contract.

[45:00] It does not. Okay. Alright.

[45:02] So there's a little homework then How about,

[45:04] how about, sorry Rick. No,

[45:05] Go ahead. Go

[45:06] Ahead.

[45:07] How about, how about a communication

[45:07] to the town administrator that when he presents it

[45:10] to you guys tomorrow night, that the,

[45:12] if there is funds exchanged, if

[45:14] that those funds go into the,

[45:21] We, we probably need to, we probably need to have a,

[45:23] we probably need to have a a we, so what I suggest

[45:27] is a motion that that $750 if it comes

[45:32] to us in the form of payment, then it goes

[45:36] to us in the land acquisition account.

[45:40] And the reason for that is the land acquisition account

[45:45] carries over year to year.

[45:47] The administrative account does not.

[45:49] So the administrative account, we spend it,

[45:52] what's not spent goes into the general fund

[45:54] and then we get a new administrative account

[45:57] balance for the following year.

[45:58] The land acquisition account, that money stays

[46:01] with the commission and just renews at the same rate.

[46:05] So I think a motion

[46:11] to have a council liaison

[46:16] communicate with the town administrator

[46:19] that those funds come to that land

[46:23] acquisition account.

[46:25] Would someone consider making that motion

[46:28] Move to direct town council to negotiate

[46:30] with the town administrator that the funds if

[46:35] can't be, if if the seven 50 can't be given in like,

[46:38] in like kind and Ocean, that

[46:40] that $750 in funds goes into the conservation commission.

[46:44] Land man. Land management fund.

[46:47] Land acquisition fund, Sorry. Land acquisition fund.

[46:50] Alright, so is the first and the floor

[46:51] is there a second? Second.

[46:52] Second. We have a second and a third.

[46:54] All is in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed?

[46:59] Charlie can you do that? Thank you.

[47:00] I'll send an email right now. Thanks very

[47:02] Much.

[47:03] He, he answered the question.

[47:04] So that extra money we're getting,

[47:05] if we don't spend it, we lose it. Is that

[47:08] Correct?

[47:09] On the admin money? Yes.

[47:13] Okay. Spend it. Huh? Spend it.

[47:15] I'm, I'm not that kind of person.

[47:17] Just yeah, spend money just 'cause we have it. No,

[47:20] We could have A help of a party,

[47:21] but that would be inappropriate.

[47:22] We're sure you'll have some good projects.

[47:24] So Beth and I discussed a, a potential purpose

[47:29] since we don't even newer from them,

[47:31] which would be a in kind service.

[47:34] They have plenty of that, but we are all set for that.

[47:37] We were thinking that adding straw

[47:39] to the gardens is something that's very vital.

[47:43] Is there any Yeah.

[47:44] Change in that conversation that we had today.

[47:46] I did speak with him today about that

[47:48] and he said that he'd be willing to,

[47:51] he doesn't grow, he doesn't have straw.

[47:54] Like he doesn't grow straw, he grows hay,

[47:57] but he would be willing to buy the straw

[47:59] and, you know, deliver it and stack it for us.

[48:04] Provided he said with an asterisk that it's available.

[48:08] So he said that it is possible

[48:10] that it's not available at this time,

[48:12] but if it is, then, then he would purchase it and,

[48:15] and, and deliver it.

[48:19] Okay. So as, as far as spending the admin money

[48:23] after the, we had a, we had a

[48:27] budget set aside through a forestry fund that pays

[48:33] Tammy and Beth,

[48:37] that fund is gonna be exhausted this year.

[48:39] So next year we'll be using the admin fund to,

[48:43] to pay the two staffers that we have

[48:45] so it will get expended.

[48:47] 'cause we'll expend that first

[48:48] and then go into the land acquisition fund after that.

[48:53] And as far as the straw, are you saying that,

[48:55] that Phil doesn't have straw?

[48:58] So the where, where, I'm Sorry. Fernando Farm.

[49:00] Yeah, the Fernando farm.

[49:03] They, they may

[49:04] or may not have straw available. Yeah, basically.

[49:07] Got it. Okay. And it's

[49:09] definitely gotta be straw, right Jay?

[49:10] We don't want, we want straw because Right. Hey has

[49:12] All kinds Of seeds in it.

[49:13] Seats. Seats. Okay. Got it. Alright, thank you Charlie.

[49:17] Thank you. Next we have Beth with the land manager report.

[49:21] All right. A lot of it has been covered already,

[49:24] but so with the community garden,

[49:27] all 36 plots have been claimed, including the raised beds

[49:31] for 37 and we have 30 individuals involved

[49:35] with the community gardens.

[49:38] And an email went out

[49:40] to those gardeners today we thought So we have

[49:43] actually some new gardeners.

[49:44] So we thought they would appreciate just an update on like

[49:48] here's how the community garden works and,

[49:51] 'cause we were getting kind of some questions about that.

[49:54] So we just sent them all a communication.

[49:57] Today I connected

[50:02] dairy cam with the Weatherby family, if any

[50:06] of you know, Neil and Wendy

[50:09] and Aurora Weatherby, they are big fans of coal marsh.

[50:12] They're there often. And in a previous meeting

[50:17] with Dairy Cam that Rick

[50:19] and I had, we discussed doing like a guided tour,

[50:23] like a film filming, a guided tour of coal marsh.

[50:27] And so we asked

[50:30] the weather bees if they would be interested in

[50:32] that in Aurora, raise her hand

[50:33] and said that yes, she would love to do that.

[50:35] So that is in the works.

[50:37] And she's the land steward at,

[50:38] And she's the land steward at Coal Marsh.

[50:40] Yep. Yep. And let's see.

[50:45] So in addition to the farmer's market, as

[50:49] for public outreach, Marion Garish just put out a request

[50:53] for community groups to participate in what's the scoop?

[50:56] And that's on Monday, May 18th from six to seven 30.

[51:00] So for those who don't know, what, what's the scoop is,

[51:04] it's basically, it's a community event

[51:06] where you come get ice cream at Marion Garris.

[51:09] So they give out ice cream to attract all the kids there.

[51:13] And it is a place where if you are looking to volunteer,

[51:19] this is where you go

[51:20] because you, you will find all of the community groups.

[51:24] The idea is to get all of the groups in our community

[51:27] that are doing volunteer work together in one place so

[51:30] that you can just walk around to everybody's table

[51:33] and see what's the scoop around town.

[51:39] I did mention this at our last meeting,

[51:40] but we have confirmed the date of June 27th for the

[51:45] bio blitz at Broadview.

[51:47] We also are going to be having an online training for

[51:52] where a member of Moose Wood Ecological is going to come

[51:56] and train us all on how to use iNaturalist, which is

[52:01] what we'll be using to, to do the BioBlitz.

[52:04] So that's gonna be June 1st during our meeting

[52:08] and it'll be televised.

[52:09] So if there, and members of the public are also welcome

[52:12] to come to this as well.

[52:16] And it will be, it will be recorded.

[52:18] So we'll have this training in

[52:20] perpetuity, which will be great.

[52:25] The CWPP is progressing.

[52:29] We are very, very close to wrapping it up.

[52:32] We were trying to hit, you know, before April vacation,

[52:35] but we'll be,

[52:37] we're looking at more like early May to wrap it up.

[52:39] But we're very, very close on that.

[52:43] And I want to just right now, thank you Beth for

[52:46] the amount of work that went into that CWPP from

[52:50] Thank you.

[52:51] Yeah, that was, and thank you Val. Incredible.

[52:53] Yeah, incredible amount of work went into that.

[52:54] And I think we're, we're probably gonna be one

[52:57] of the first communities in

[52:58] New Hampshire to actually have one, right? Gonna

[53:00] Be the first, second I think second.

[53:01] I think the second Heer is the first

[53:02] and dairy is the second.

[53:03] Yeah. So, and yeah, I, on that note,

[53:06] I wanna give a huge amount of thanks to Val and Jack Webb

[53:10] and Ryan Bump and John Neely.

[53:12] They've all done incredible work on this. Chief,

[53:15] Chief LA Chief Laro. Yes.

[53:17] Yeah, Yeah, yeah. So that's a big, big project.

[53:20] I think that'll be, you know, that'll be tremendous.

[53:25] And I'm sure we're gonna get contacted by other communities

[53:28] as soon as it's, it's rolled out.

[53:30] Yeah. On, you know, how can, how can we do that? So

[53:33] John wants to hire Val to, to do more towns.

[53:36] Yeah. Okay.

[53:39] And we'll come back to that.

[53:43] And then the Margaret Ives sign was mentioned.

[53:46] I just wanted to let everybody know

[53:47] that we did file a report with the DPD just to let them know

[53:52] that the sign had been damaged so

[53:53] that there's a report on record if

[53:55] something like that happens again.

[53:57] And we're going to communicate with public works just

[54:01] to make sure that it's not public works doing that,

[54:05] you know, pushing the snow in that direction anyway

[54:08] and monitor it over the winter.

[54:10] So we are all set to move forward with plans on

[54:15] replacing or fixing up that sign.

[54:17] And that is the event

[54:19] that the land maintenance committee has planned for July.

[54:22] So that'll be exciting.

[54:25] And then the Broadview lease will be up at the town council

[54:29] for a vote tomorrow night.

[54:32] And then I have a couple of items

[54:34] that you all need a vote on.

[54:37] So one is to go back

[54:39] to our discussion on dog fouling, right?

[54:42] So there actually is an RSA that is on the books already.

[54:46] We don't have a town ordinance on it,

[54:48] but there is an RSA 4 66 31 B.

[54:53] And I went

[54:56] to McGregor Park today to take some photos of signs

[55:00] that they, that they have up at McGregor Park.

[55:03] And it just says in all caps, please pick up

[55:06] after dogs RSA 4 66 31 dash B.

[55:12] And I would like to

[55:18] bring it to you all to vote that we make a sign

[55:23] that just says that please pick up after dogs

[55:25] and then cites the RSA

[55:28] that we can post alongside our leash, you know,

[55:32] the sighting of the leash law, or not the leash law,

[55:36] but the, the town ordinance that refers to

[55:40] dogs running at large at Broadview

[55:42] and any other conservation properties that we might

[55:46] feel need reminders about dog fouling.

[55:53] So a a as far as the broad view sign,

[55:55] because I feel like we're,

[55:58] I feel like we're putting up signs, like different signs

[56:02] and I think we're gonna end up

[56:03] with another sign there probably for something else.

[56:05] Should we, at least on the broad view property,

[56:09] get one sign that has as this,

[56:14] this property is owned

[56:16] and managed by the Dairy Conservation Commission

[56:18] with some rules instead of having a bunch of spa

[56:21] We could do that.

[56:22] So just so, just so that you're aware of like

[56:25] what it actually looks like.

[56:26] It's just a piece of paper, you know, that is put

[56:31] behind the plexi glass that's on the trail head.

[56:35] There is a small wooden, like eight

[56:40] and a half by 11 size with a wooden frame that has,

[56:45] that's from Parks and Rec.

[56:48] And I believe it's, it's about, you know,

[56:52] that it's open from dawn until desk.

[56:54] So it has that on it or no, no, no.

[56:57] There's a metal sign that says

[56:59] that it's open from dawn until dusk.

[57:01] And then there's a, a sign that's framed in wood

[57:05] that says please pick up, you know, carry

[57:07] and carry out, please pick up your trash.

[57:11] And then on the trail kiosk, there's the new sign

[57:15] that we have about dogs running at large.

[57:19] And then, you know, we could potentially have another piece

[57:23] of paper in there that says, please pick up after dogs.

[57:27] But Yeah, I see what you're saying.

[57:29] 'cause there's, there's a lot of different

[57:30] Things.

[57:31] It's a good idea that we, that we have like a message board,

[57:35] a marquee maybe we'll call it a

[57:36] marquee or, or a message board.

[57:38] Yeah. Mr. Met suggests a message board that said

[57:41] says something like, welcome to Broadview Farm with the,

[57:45] with the Dairy Conservation Commission logo allowed, uses

[57:50] and then rules for use.

[57:52] Yeah. And then we take down all the other stuff

[57:54] and just have one sign

[57:55] and then maybe we can also say,

[57:58] talk about the public gardens, which are also there

[58:03] and have even maybe have some contact info

[58:08] on it like dairy conservation. Yeah.

[58:11] So we wanna keep in mind too that,

[58:14] 'cause I, I think that that is the dream, right?

[58:17] To have that on there

[58:18] and we will be addressing a lot of that with the BioBlitz.

[58:22] So part of what, part of the grant that's

[58:26] provided with the BioBlitz is

[58:27] that Moose Wood Ecological can actually do some help,

[58:31] can help us in designing our trailhead kiosk

[58:35] and putting things like that on it.

[58:37] Which I think would be a bit of a more involved project.

[58:41] Like if we are trying to just put people on notice

[58:44] and address the dog filing issue sooner rather than later,

[58:49] you know, we can just put up a sign is,

[58:52] is a very quick thing that, you know,

[58:53] we can do in an afternoon

[58:55] and make a goal to, you know, have a more detailed kind

[59:00] of overhaul that has the allowed uses

[59:02] and has a lot of things about it with a list of Yeah. You

[59:05] Know, what's allowed after the bio blitz do the,

[59:07] do the bigger, right.

[59:08] Yeah. I love the sound of that.

[59:10] People like the sound of that Jay, Jay look like you have a

[59:14] To have, you know, nothing but negatives, you know.

[59:17] Yeah. For our communications with the public and yeah,

[59:21] It would be great to have a balance.

[59:22] Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking say, you know,

[59:24] welcome to, here's the things about homeA, the, the,

[59:27] the town you all that stuff.

[59:28] Alright. So, but I do think that the bio blitz thing needs

[59:32] to get in our rear view before we do that.

[59:34] So I, I don't think you need a motion.

[59:38] I think when we put Okay.

[59:39] Put yeah, everyone's nodding, right? Yeah.

[59:41] We're gonna put up the sign about the dog f do dog fouling

[59:44] in the ex existing kiosk.

[59:46] So wait, yes, do that or no, do not do that. Yes,

[59:49] Yes.

[59:50] Yeah, let's do that and then have a, have a goal.

[59:51] Why don't you, why don't we put it on, on our,

[59:55] on our, on our our sheet.

[59:57] We didn't talk about that sheet.

[59:59] We probably should talk about that sheet Beth. Sure.

[1:00:01] You wanna do that before we do the,

[1:00:03] the do the tree falling stuff?

[1:00:04] Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Again, talk about the sheet that we have

[1:00:07] and, and how we're, how we're managing the,

[1:00:09] So we have a spreadsheet, 400

[1:00:10] projects we got going right now.

[1:00:13] Yeah. So we have a spreadsheet where I'm trying

[1:00:16] to capture, you know, all these little things,

[1:00:19] all these like big goals, little goals and,

[1:00:23] and all the things that kind of happen in between.

[1:00:26] Right. And sending that to Rick once a week so

[1:00:30] that he can review it

[1:00:31] and kind of set the priorities right Because, you know,

[1:00:35] I kind of just go through

[1:00:36] and I've been, you know, deciding myself like

[1:00:41] what looks like the most urgent thing or,

[1:00:43] or the next thing that needs to be worked on.

[1:00:44] So we're working on that more together so that, so

[1:00:47] that he can set the priorities for

[1:00:49] where my time is being spent.

[1:00:52] And once we have that completely,

[1:00:54] 'cause I think we're real close to having the it

[1:00:56] done, we can include Mr.

[1:00:59] Metz in that distributions. Okay.

[1:01:02] So we're, we're still developing the,

[1:01:05] so we have the spreadsheet and we have the legend.

[1:01:08] We're gonna put it all in one document.

[1:01:09] So it's gonna be a quick glance.

[1:01:13] This is what, this is

[1:01:14] what the conservation commissioner is working on

[1:01:17] and this is the prioritization, prioritization of, you know,

[1:01:21] what we're working on first, second, and third.

[1:01:25] So something that can be handed to, to a commissioner

[1:01:27] and say, or even the tout administrator

[1:01:30] or you Charlie saying here's our, here's our,

[1:01:32] the 40 projects we got going

[1:01:34] and this is the, the basically the urgency of some

[1:01:38] and the, the less urgent stuff down to our wishlist that

[1:01:43] Beth uses as filling stuff.

[1:01:45] Yep. So we're,

[1:01:46] And I have a to done tab,

[1:01:48] which is very, a very useful Yeah.

[1:01:50] Memory jogger. Yeah.

[1:01:52] Yeah. So we're done in our, in our, you know, 30 minutes,

[1:01:56] 30 minute phone calls that we have.

[1:01:57] We, we, we cover a lot of material.

[1:01:59] So this kind of gives us a, an opportunity

[1:02:01] to, to help with that.

[1:02:03] Thank you Beth. Go ahead. Continue. Yeah.

[1:02:05] Great. Okay, so the last thing on my list here is a quote

[1:02:09] for tree felling at 17 Holiday Ave.

[1:02:15] So I did, I prepared a staff report,

[1:02:18] my first staff report that.

[1:02:22] So the purpose is to approve one of these three quotes

[1:02:28] for contractors to file a potentially dying tree along a

[1:02:32] boundary shared between Cornelius and Farm property

[1:02:34] and 17 Holiday Ave.

[1:02:36] I do have one that I recommend from a SC Tree Services.

[1:02:41] So just to refresh everybody's memory on the background,

[1:02:44] the residents at 17 holiday have reached out to us last year

[1:02:48] with concerns about a tree limb overhanging their barn.

[1:02:51] The tree limb is attached to a tree

[1:02:53] that's on conservation property and we

[1:02:56] provided the residents with a letter of permission

[1:02:58] to fill the tree at their own expense

[1:03:01] and they requested financial assistance fell the tree.

[1:03:05] So with the direction from the property management

[1:03:07] committee, we obtained three quotes from dairy base business

[1:03:11] to have the tree filled.

[1:03:14] So after I reviewed the three quotes,

[1:03:17] there was a pretty widespread between the lowest estimate

[1:03:19] of $1,300 and the highest estimate of $3,000.

[1:03:24] So I looked into why they were so different

[1:03:28] and it basically revealed

[1:03:30] that the companies all have three different ways they, they,

[1:03:34] that they were gonna approach this work.

[1:03:36] And I wanted to be sure that, you know,

[1:03:38] I don't wanna just recommend that we go

[1:03:40] with the lowest quote because it's the lowest quote.

[1:03:42] So I wanted to know how they were going to handle the work.

[1:03:46] So the highest estimate is the highest

[1:03:48] because the worker would need to climb the

[1:03:53] tree in order to remove it in pieces

[1:03:55] and climbing poses a higher risk.

[1:03:58] So that's the highest price.

[1:04:00] The middle estimate was going to use a bucket truck,

[1:04:03] but the homeowner spoke to me

[1:04:07] and said that they do not feel comfortable having a bucket

[1:04:10] truck in their backyard for fear

[1:04:12] of like ripping up their backyard, et cetera.

[1:04:16] And then the lowest one from a CS tree services,

[1:04:21] I mean, sorry, A SC Tree Services Inc.

[1:04:26] Will use an aerial tracked lift boom is the name

[1:04:31] of the, of the machine, A KAS spider.

[1:04:35] And it is a smaller, lighter

[1:04:37] and more maneuverable than a bucket truck

[1:04:40] and it's safer

[1:04:41] for the worker than actually climbing the tree.

[1:04:44] So it's basically this pretty thin machine that,

[1:04:48] you know, they bring in.

[1:04:50] It's not, it's not a vehicle that goes on the road, right.

[1:04:52] It's just a small vehicle that they would,

[1:04:56] that they would truck in.

[1:04:57] And then that vehicle has like a remote control

[1:05:00] that you can move it through, you know,

[1:05:03] either the yard or through the woods.

[1:05:06] So it's really good for getting into tight spaces and yeah.

[1:05:10] And it's a lot safer for the worker

[1:05:12] 'cause they're in a stabilized machine

[1:05:15] cutting down the tree in much the same way

[1:05:17] that they might be if they were climbing the tree.

[1:05:19] But it's just a lot safer

[1:05:21] 'cause they're not in a, you know, in a tree So

[1:05:24] that is the one that I recommend, which also happens

[1:05:26] to be the lowest quote at $1,300.

[1:05:31] And we always, we always do our best to try

[1:05:34] to hire dairy based businesses

[1:05:36] when we're, when we're doing this.

[1:05:37] And all three of the, all three

[1:05:39] of these are dairy based businesses.

[1:05:43] So if we had a, a, I agree

[1:05:47] with Beth's recommendation for thir,

[1:05:49] for choosing the $1,300 one.

[1:05:51] And it's not, not solely because of cost.

[1:05:53] I did look at some, I looked,

[1:05:55] I looked at the machine how it works.

[1:05:59] And I think, I think we're probably gonna be using

[1:06:01] that company quite a bit.

[1:06:02] 'cause it's a, it's a low impact, low impact

[1:06:08] machine that, you know, around homes and stuff like that.

[1:06:10] I think it's the perfect, perfect situation.

[1:06:13] So we would need a, a motion

[1:06:18] for $1,300 in the name

[1:06:20] of the tree service is a SC Tree Service Inc.

[1:06:26] Move to approve $1,300 to use a SC tree service

[1:06:31] for tree removal on Cornelius

[1:06:35] and 17 Holiday Ave or Lane second.

[1:06:41] Okay. We have a first by Mr. Metz. Second by Cheryl.

[1:06:45] All is in favor say aye. A Aye. Any opposition?

[1:06:49] Hearing none. Motion carries anything else, Beth?

[1:06:53] That's my last thing. Okay.

[1:06:58] Nice work, Beth. Thank you. That's doing a Thank you, Beth.

[1:07:01] That's doing a lot of work.

[1:07:08] Okay. Next meeting.

[1:07:10] Date is May 4th, and I believe Mr.

[1:07:14] Metz, is that yours or mine? I will not be here.

[1:07:16] So that's mine. Mr. Metz won't be here.

[1:07:19] I'll be looking for someone to make motions for me. Then.

[1:07:23] Our right. The proposed meeting dates have been adjusted

[1:07:28] to reflect some suggestions from the previous meeting.

[1:07:33] Everyone take a peek at that. Peek at those.

[1:07:46] All right. Hearing no objections.

[1:07:48] We're gonna carry that forward to the next meeting.

[1:07:50] Wait. Right. The non-public meeting minutes? Hmm.

[1:07:55] Is that what you just said? The non-public meeting minutes?

[1:07:57] No, the proposed meeting dates. Oh, the

[1:07:59] Proposed. I'm sorry. I'm That's

[1:08:00] Okay.

[1:08:01] Yeah. Other business. I have none.

[1:08:05] Beth, did we cover everything you and I need to cover? Yes.

[1:08:08] Any, any commissioners need

[1:08:10] to bring anything up that we haven't covered?

[1:08:14] No. Okay.

[1:08:16] So we are gonna have a,

[1:08:21] like a, like a two minute non-public meeting.

[1:08:25] So, Mr. Met you, help me with the protocol, please.

[1:08:28] Yep. Move to

[1:08:30] Go into non-public session per RSA 91, A three section one

[1:08:35] for the purpose of property acquisition.

[1:08:39] And we don't have to close this

[1:08:40] meeting or anything like that yet?

[1:08:41] No. Okay. All right. So there's a motion on the floor.

[1:08:45] I need a second. And then we're gonna have a roll call

[1:08:48] Second.

[1:08:49] We have a second by Val.

[1:08:51] And we'll start with the roll call to my right. Yes.

[1:08:55] Yes, Yes, yes,

[1:08:58] Yes, yes, yes.

[1:09:01] And chair votes? Yes.

[1:09:02] I need a motion to invite Beth and Charlie

[1:09:08] Move to invite, invite Beth Carver

[1:09:10] and Councilor Charlie Foot into the meeting.

[1:09:12] Is there a second? Second. First by Mr. Metz.

[1:09:16] Second by Cheryl. Roll call. Starting to my right. Yes.

[1:09:20] Yes, Yes,

[1:09:22] Yes, Yes, yes.

[1:09:25] And the chair votes. Yes.

[1:09:26] We don't have to invite you, Pam,

[1:09:28] because you're, you're, you're an alternate.

[1:09:31] Okay. So we're in, we're in non-public.

[1:09:33] Owen, once you gimme the word, we'll have a quick chat.

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