Agenda
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Meeting Start
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Approval of Minutes
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Chair's Report & Correspondence
[10:34]
Site Review
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Workshop
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Committee and Liaison Reports
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Land Manager Report
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Administrative Business
[1:49:51]
Administrative Business
[1:50:43]
Administrative Business
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Adjourn
Transcript
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I'd like to call the Dairy Conservation
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Commission meeting to order.
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Ask everybody to silence their cell phones.
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And we're gonna start things off with Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag
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of the United States of America
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and to the Republic for which stands?
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One Nation, Liberty, God, indivisible, Liberty, and Justice.
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Thank you. Emergency exits are
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located at the back of the building.
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And to my right, if there's an emergency in the building,
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please do not use the elevator.
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Use the stairs. If you need assistance,
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please ask someone from Dairy TV
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or one of the commissioners for assistance.
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We'll start our meeting off
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with the introduction of commissioners.
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We'll start to my right.
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Christopher Morlock. Cheryl Holbert.
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Rick Metz. Bob Spro.
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Ilene Chabo. Pam Laro.
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Linda Cony. Val Connolly.
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And I'm the chair. Ricardo bga.
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We're gonna have our recording secretary taking minutes.
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Viader tv. So I want everybody to kinda speak up tonight.
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Gotcha. So she can see,
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so she can pick it up off the broadcast.
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We are missing Jay tonight.
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And I'm gonna have Christopher,
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can you sit for Jay this evening?
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Yes. And I don't think we're
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missing any other commissioners.
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Is that accurate? No. Okay, good.
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Just one. We'll stop the meeting
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off with the approval of minutes.
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Everyone should have gotten a digital copy
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and there's also a copy in front of you.
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If there's no, no corrections needed,
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I'll entertain a motion to approve.
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I don't have a copy.
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Have she got one? This bug? Yeah. Bug you one.
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Do you want 'em? Sure. It's good. I brought my own
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We little business to do.
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Eileen, do you see needs to be addressed?
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No, I don't. I would make a motion to approve the meeting,
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the meeting minutes of our last meeting on
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May 4th, 2026.
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Second, let's hear first by E Lien. Second by Mr. Matt.
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Solos in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
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We have a unanimous vote and we have one abstention.
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Bob Sperl is abstaining. Two myself as well.
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We have two abstentions.
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So we still have five to two, five votes.
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So the motion carries two abstentions, commissioner, Sperl
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and, and Bell.
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Okay. Next order of business is
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the chair's report and correspondence.
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I'm gonna put 'em together. We're still very busy.
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Beth and I have our weekly phone call
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moving our agenda forward.
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Committee's a meeting and doing their work.
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We had a, a good meeting with Owen prior to this meeting.
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How we're integrating Dairy Cam into,
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into Dairy Conservation Commission
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and getting our information out to the public.
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So we're busy. Very busy.
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna go this kind, go through this kind
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of quickly 'cause we have a, a full agenda tonight
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and I don't wanna be here until midnight, so
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I'm gonna kind of blast through this.
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We're working, you actually have a copy of this. Yep. Mr.
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Metz, we're working on a sample letter,
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a sample solicitation letter to landowners in town
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that we're gonna be sending as we, as we find properties
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that are on our target list
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as potential conservation properties.
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So we have our sample letter, Ms. Mr.
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Metz, myself
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and Beth are gonna continue tweaking that letter
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once I think it's ready for the, for the whole commission
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to look at and chime in.
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We'll, we'll be putting it forward to them.
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In our meeting with Owen today, we're gonna use excerpts of
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that letter in social media
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and on dairy TV soliciting
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properties from people tuning into Dairy TV
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and to the numerous dairy social media sites.
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We've been asked by the Beaver Lake Watershed,
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the Beaver Lake Improvement Association,
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to participate in their watershed management plan.
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It was something that was put together in 2007
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and we're we're, they're, they're doing a new one.
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They're asked, they've asked us to get involved.
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It's a plan that they, they to do together with
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DES in the town of Derry.
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We're gonna be meeting with them
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and potentially assign a commissioner to that process.
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The initial meeting will probably be myself.
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Maybe Beth will join me.
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And then depending on what the meeting schedule
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and the workload on that will probably
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assign a commissioner to that project.
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We are working on the deed restriction for Broadview Farm
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and Beth is gonna go over that in her land manager report.
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We have our first agricultural lease land lease agreement,
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actually paper deal, at least the first one
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that we've had since I've been on the commission for 15
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or 17 years, however long it's been.
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And I have that, I'm gonna hand it to my right.
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Bob already took a look at it
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and liked it, so it's gonna go this way first.
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You can look at it. And that's for the Broadview Farm
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Meadow kind of behind between Broadview
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and I guess that's East Area Road,
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right road, east Area Road, yeah.
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South sent me a field
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and management series workshop that's gonna go to my left.
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Eileen's probably gonna tell us about that too.
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And we have a reported, alleged violation,
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63 English Range Road der that's gonna go to my left.
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That's a communication from DES.
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We have a flyer from Salt Everlasting.
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It's about, kind of talks about
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how many properties they've conserved
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and it talks about some
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of the people involved in their process.
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I've worked with, I think most of the people
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that are pictured in this.
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We've started a process checking the revenues coming into
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the commission prior to our meeting.
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And Beth meets me.
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So has a, has a, a communication
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with the dairy finance people.
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We're continuing to receive revenues from
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the numerous projects in town where the,
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where the properties are in current use
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and they're paying the current use exchange tax.
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So revenues remain fairly strong for us
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That we're gonna be using hopefully soon on the, on the two
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or three conservation properties
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that we're considering right now.
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And I believe that's all I have. Are we ready for? Yeah.
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Okay. So first order of business outside of
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our regular agenda is a site plan review.
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It is map 10 lot 12, 180 7 Hampton Road.
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The au the owner
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is, that's for Ricky, right?
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Yeah, the owner is
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one is Byrd Enterprise.
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LLC 41 Rage Road.
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Windham, New Hampshire Surveyor is the Meisner Brim
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Corporation of Salem, New Hampshire.
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They're presenting a site plan review. Thanks.
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The applicant, Jay Yco is here
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and the presenter is Kurt Meisner.
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Everyone should have a copy of an 11 by 17 plan.
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And I have a full, a full page set.
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I think we're trying to get a
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another set up on the screen here.
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30 tv. Are we gonna get a set up on the screen?
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Beth, did they get your zip drive? Say that again.
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Did they get your zip drive? Yes. Okay.
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Dairy tv. Gimme a signal.
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Are we gonna get that up on the screen
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or should we, should we proceed?
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Proceed. Proceed. Thank you. Okay.
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Kurt, we have plans in front of us.
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You have one in front of you. Why don't you bring
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run, run through it for us.
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I do. Good evening, Mr. Chairman and board members.
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I'm Kurt Marner with Meer Brim Corporation.
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This is Jay anco.
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He's the proprietor of the owner of Bird Enterprises.
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We are here tonight. We have a, an amended minor site plan.
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This site plan was approved back in February of
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2025.
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And basically, if you see on the second sheet of
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what we're looking at, the,
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the general site was the existing church site
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that's at 180 7 Hampstead Street and Hampstead Road.
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And that's about an eight and a half acre site.
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At the time, we were utilizing probably about a half
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of the site with an existing parking
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lot, the existing building.
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And Mr. Yco has sort of retrofitted that
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for his business purposes
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and the, in the uses that he has, which is basically a,
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a landscape supply company
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and Northeast Elite Athletics,
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which is inside the building.
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The landscape supply company is basically
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outside of the building.
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So what we're hoping to amend
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to the site plan now is a small area of upland
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that's located on the south it east corner.
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It's shown on the second sheet.
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And you can see there's a red dotted line that runs
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around the upland.
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And, and that wetland that is shown there was field located
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by Tom Sokolowski of TES Environmental.
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And what we're hoping to do is to utilize that area for
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a stock holding area.
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So he purchases nursery stock,
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he's gonna place it on that spot of land there
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and hold it as a storage area.
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So that's the general idea of what we're doing.
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The only other portion of that that needs
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to have any addition is the, is a,
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a gravel pathway
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that runs from the existing parking lot over to, to
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that upland area.
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We have shown on sheet three.
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We show a detail of a, a mulch berm
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that basically goes right around the circumference of the,
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of the entire piece of upland there
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for protection of the wetlands.
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That's an organic mulch, mulch, berm.
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So I guess
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that's a general overall view of what we're looking to do.
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So if you have questions of myself
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or Jay, we're happy to help you.
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Thank you. The, the gravel driveway
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that's, that goes over there that you, that's existing.
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That's, that's it says existing on the, on the,
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It's there now?
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Yes. It, it was not there when,
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when we had the original site plan approved back in January
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of, of oh of 25.
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But they put that in there to work, you know,
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they cut down some of the brush
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and scrub that was in there
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to see if the area was suitable to use. Right.
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O only a portion of that's there.
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Just, just off of the pavement now. Okay.
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Across that whole way. I'd have to continue that.
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I don't, I don't have it all there now.
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So what is that like, gonna be like a crushed stone?
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That's it. Just a crushed stone.
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There's not just an access path. Right. That's it.
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There's not a wetland. Is there a wetland crossing there?
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There is not, no.
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So that where it gets into the, where,
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where the wetlands come real tight.
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That was not a wetland that crossed there. That
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Was, that was not, and that was, you know, we had
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that field located by to koski
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and there was a gap between the, the wetland.
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Yeah, I can, that's probably why
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the, it's curved like that.
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You gonna be using equipment on that
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Small?
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Yes, I will. Small equipment.
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Either four forklifts, stuff like that. The, the,
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the largest piece of equipment would there be over there
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would be a, it's called an SVL 75 Kubota Skid Steer.
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Which is a track machine. Yeah.
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I the least invasive of of Right. Our equipment. Yep. So
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You're not bringing tractor
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trailers in there or anything like
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That?
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I'm not, no. No. The, the pathway is simply just
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for, for our use only.
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It would be either that or, you know, hand carts or whatnot.
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Are you storing any mechanical equipment over there?
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No. Not gonna keep
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Trucks or everything. Organic
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Forklifts or any of that stuff over there? No,
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I will not.
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I have plenty of space for that. Otherwise. Yeah,
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There's plenty. Plenty of parking.
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Plenty of parking. With it being holding stock,
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are you gonna be spraying any excess fertilizers
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or some nutrients for storage?
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Hold on one second. We don't fertilize.
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Before you answer Val, can you just either turn up your mic?
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I could barely hear you, so I'm sure that Tammy can't,
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Matt, That's gimme like a 1, 2, 3 count.
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1, 2, 3, go. Good. It's as high as I can go.
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That's good. The an,
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the short answer's no, the long answer.
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Sorry. Sorry Mr Echo,
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could you just ask the question? Oh, sorry,
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Sorry. Just, just re
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I'm excited just so you know.
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Have we have the,
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our our recording secretary is gonna do this remotely,
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so she's gonna pick it up off the TV in order
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to take the, take the minutes. Yes,
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Of course.
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Sorry Tammy, my question was, will there be any ex spraying
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of fertilizers or needed nutrients for the stock
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to be held over there?
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The short an, like I said, the short answer is no.
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The long answer is a, a re wholesale nursery, like myself,
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we're predominantly a wholesale nursery.
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We do sell to the public, but wholesaling industry, we,
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we don't fertilize anything.
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We don't do any spraying. We don't have any,
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we don't have any licenses
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for spraying in the state of New Hampshire.
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You have to be approved in a pesticide
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or to give fertilizer.
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We don't do any of that. So the answer is no.
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And I think I heard too,
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but just clarifying earlier, it sounded like the curve
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of the wetland, the spot where you had the gravel path.
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Now there was a gap between the two.
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So it's, there shouldn't be
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any, a need of filling or anything. Yeah,
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There's no filling of the wetland.
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This is just a, there is a, it loops around
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and then it actually just doesn't touch each other.
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Gotcha. Okay. Thank you.
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On the, on the berm, there's a berm,
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a berm detail here
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and there's an elaborate process for the type of berm
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that's used and a best practices
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regarding regarding rain events
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and inspections and stuff like that.
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Is all that stuff gonna be conducted by you, Mr. Yco?
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Are you outsourcing that or is that gonna be done in house?
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Thank you. Thank you Owen.
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No, that, that'll be done by us.
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We have the capabilities and the ability to do exactly that.
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Our, our nursery stock currently
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and has been for the 20 years I've been in business is all
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for no better terms called healed in.
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So you dig a small portion just
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basically so it doesn't tip over.
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Sure. You know, a tree or something like that.
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And then it's mulched in, so we already use wood chips
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or organic materials, any organic material being wood chips
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or stump grindings for all of our product anyway.
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Right. So we're kind of like,
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everything gets filtered regardless.
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That's just what we do because it's, it makes
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Sense.
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The ber the berm itself, the
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Berm will be put up by us.
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Yeah. And it'll be maintained by us, inspected by you guys.
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We already have the materials on site.
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It was suggested by TRC
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that we use the actual stump grindings 'cause they're longer
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and grainier, which we already,
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I contacted Mike Mulch company.
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They actually had it. So we already had it delivered. Yep.
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Perfect. Now memory serves me. Right.
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All those, all those plants
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and shrubs in this new storage area.
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Bald Right. For the most part,
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For the most part will be bald and burlap.
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Okay. Yes. The things that might not be bald and burlap
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or the only things that I would choose to not be bald
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and burlap in there would be something that,
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that shade life loving rend.
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Yep. Azalea something to that effect.
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Because we fully intend on keeping
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that canopy. I'm not, I'm not cutting.
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And and val to your your point,
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they don't add any fertilizers,
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but those balls do contain fertilized soil.
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Yes. No. So the root
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Balls of trees do not generally contain fertilizers.
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The fertilizers that the root balls come in,
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in field grow material are done over a course
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of time at the growing nurseries.
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And then when, by the time they dig them,
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there's no fertilizer left in those trees.
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Okay. Right. The containerized materials do have a slow
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release tablet in there.
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It's only done if you, again, you're, you're dating back,
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your memory's a little bit better than mine.
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I had to go back and review. They use Yeah, of course.
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They use a slow re slow release pellets in the
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containerized materials.
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Think of it like a BB
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and that that is done
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that only releases when the plant is in the ground
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for more than 14 days.
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And the temperature of the soil is 70 degrees or greater.
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So it never releases in, in my nursery.
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It's only once it's given to the given implant.
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I just wanted to follow up on that
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'cause I know you talked about that during, during
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T Yes, we did.
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Thank you.
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Any other comments or questions from the commission?
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Yeah, I do. That proposed tree
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and shrub storage area, was that never a wetland
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or was that a previously filled wetland?
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'cause it just seems like an odd kind of an odd shape,
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you know, where there's wetlands all around.
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You don't believe so, which just seems kind of very odd
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that it would just not, not be originally a wetland.
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Do you know whether that might have been previously filled
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by the church or, I,
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I, I can't imagine it was previously filled by the church.
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It doesn't appear to, I mean, there's trees on it.
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It just seems like an awful, there's tree on it.
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They're hundred years old. I know that
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To have not been, you know, it seems like
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that would've been a continuous wetland at one time.
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It was a wooded area, right? Wasn't it? It it,
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Oh, it's a wooded area.
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Yeah, I mean there's trees on it that are
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The old site plan for years.
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Church, the original site plan I think was 19.
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Oh, I'm gonna say 99. Was it 99?
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It, it shows exactly the wetland I'll say. I'd say exactly.
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It shows just like what you see up there.
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It shows it as upland Really.
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It does, yes. Yeah. Huh.
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Yeah, I know we did the site walk that was a forest,
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that area island that was like, like mature tree growth.
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Oh yeah. There's trees in there that are wrong. Well,
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Okay.
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I I just, I don't know.
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You could tell by the soil it's
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A higher elevation by bit. Yeah. When you,
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You can tell by the soil when you're walking out there
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that it's the elevation's up and it's
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It's like a domed area kind of. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's a, it maybe it doesn't look it on the plan,
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but it's, it's a big area.
[22:42]
You can see the contours
[22:43]
that show this sheet that we're looking at.
[22:45]
Yeah, I see the contours, But
[22:46]
it's eight feet higher. Yeah.
[22:48]
Yeah. I I just wondered whether it was original that way
[22:50]
or whether it was built up.
[22:52]
That's all. It just, just seems like an awfully odd kind
[22:55]
of configuration, but,
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Okay.
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Thanks Eileen. Any any, any, go ahead, Bob. Yeah,
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I, and I may have missed it if somebody already asked it
[23:04]
of the gravel path that you have going to, it
[23:08]
crosses a little bit of wetland.
[23:10]
Is that gonna have a culvert under it for water passage
[23:13]
or just, I'd
[23:14]
Let you Know.
[23:15]
It it, it does not, it that's the natural state right now.
[23:19]
And I, I'm not sure.
[23:20]
It sounded like you said it
[23:25]
over the wetland.
[23:26]
It's not over the wetland. It's between the wetland.
[23:29]
So, okay. The wetland doesn't come through.
[23:31]
It's just naturally that way that that's what
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Was Okay.
[23:34]
But can water, that's a good question, Bob. Let's
[23:35]
Can water come through that?
[23:37]
Like I think that's what Bob's questioning is.
[23:39]
No, like you've got, you've got wetland here
[23:42]
and you have wetland on the other side of the path.
[23:44]
Sure. Does water go underneath that gravel path in any way?
[23:49]
No. And was it once connected, you know? No.
[23:51]
Before the gravel path went
[23:53]
In, does do that.
[23:54]
Water goes around the other side.
[23:56]
You can see the blue lines on this
[23:57]
sheet that we're looking at.
[24:00]
Any water that's on one side goes to the other
[24:03]
and that's the way it fills in.
[24:05]
Just around the topography.
[24:09]
I just don't, yeah, I don't see how it gets there.
[24:12]
I guess it, it's coming down wet one's coming down here.
[24:15]
It looks, looks like the gravel path. Bisects.
[24:18]
I can two ends of the wetland.
[24:24]
Like there's a
[24:25]
Crossing there.
[24:26]
So any, any water that's in here
[24:27]
can travel right through here.
[24:30]
Or actually water that's here can travel down through here.
[24:33]
It's out there. So the water,
[24:35]
But what about here, Back around,
[24:37]
you had it right the first travel?
[24:38]
Yeah. Almost like the gravel path is a dam.
[24:41]
Is that what it
[24:42]
I, You know, is it acting as a dam? Sure.
[24:45]
I, I'll agree with those terms.
[24:47]
I guess for the purposes of what we're talking about,
[24:48]
there's a, it's just a little
[24:51]
Old feet Or something.
[24:52]
A natural. Yeah, it's about 12 or 15 feet wide. Little berm.
[24:57]
Huh? Just like, just like a lot of things.
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I mean if you, if you walk through the woodland anywhere,
[25:03]
there's a lot of places where, you know, pond stop
[25:07]
and they loop around and Well
[25:08]
You said that's just what it does.
[25:09]
Well you said previously though, that
[25:10]
that gravel path wasn't previously there.
[25:13]
The last time you came before us. It it's
[25:15]
Not, it's currently not.
[25:16]
It, it's, I'm wonder
[25:17]
Beginning of it, it's wonder like when you came before us
[25:19]
before, what did that area look like?
[25:21]
Was it the same as now was well connected? In other words?
[25:24]
It it was connected, huh?
[25:26]
It's the exact same shape
[25:28]
and configuration as it always has been.
[25:31]
Okay. And that includes back
[25:32]
to when the church was built.
[25:34]
Okay. No, I think we can go
[25:36]
stewardship on that one too.
[25:39]
Cool. Concept
[26:15]
commissioners.
[26:16]
Does anyone have any que any other questions
[26:17]
regarding the the plan? Yeah,
[26:19]
I have one more question regarding the drainage
[26:22]
that's shown here in the parking lot.
[26:25]
Was that previously there there's a pipe
[26:27]
that goes out to the wetland.
[26:29]
It doesn't sh doesn't say what size pipe that is,
[26:31]
but a pipe that discharges into the wetland.
[26:36]
All, all the drainage discharge that's on this drainage
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It, oh, go on This plan.
[26:42]
It's sheet number.
[26:45]
What is this? You've Got two of
[26:46]
Three sheet.
[26:47]
Two of three. It shows a, a culvert pipe going out.
[26:52]
The, I believe you're talking about this area right here.
[26:55]
Yes. Right. Was that always there?
[26:57]
That was, well, it, it was installed when
[27:01]
the church was constructed.
[27:02]
Okay. So, so that's always been there. Guess.
[27:04]
Okay. I just, just, that was my question, whether
[27:06]
that's something new or that was always there.
[27:08]
Okay. Thank you.
[27:15]
Any other questions or comments from the commission?
[27:21]
Seeing none, Mr.
[27:22]
Meisner, what is the protocol that you need this commission
[27:25]
to, to accomplish for you
[27:26]
This evening?
[27:27]
So what we're here
[27:28]
for is hopefully a positive recommendation for you to send
[27:32]
to the planning board that,
[27:34]
that this board recommends approval from them
[27:38]
of the plan as we've shown it.
[27:42]
So recommending approval would be
[27:43]
something that we don't normally
[27:45]
do. So I would to take
[27:50]
A, maybe a better term would be
[27:51]
acceptance for this board, right?
[27:53]
Yeah. So our, our motions need
[27:57]
to be made in the affirmative.
[27:59]
So I think what the, what the petitioner is looking for is
[28:02]
that we do not object to anything on the plan.
[28:06]
So it would be, I would entertain a motion
[28:10]
that sounded something like that.
[28:12]
I think that would satisfy the applicant moving forward.
[28:18]
If, if there's a commissioner
[28:19]
that's willing to make that motion
[28:22]
Move to accept and approve the plan revisions presented
[28:27]
for 180 7 Hampstead Road, dairy New Hampshire
[28:29]
by Bird Enterprises.
[28:30]
LLC.
[28:32]
Second. I'll second that. Can
[28:34]
I make a friendly amendment, Mr.
[28:35]
Mr. Metz? Sure. Because we're not gonna sign this plan.
[28:40]
We're not really approving it. Yeah.
[28:41]
We're not gonna accept it or approve it.
[28:42]
It may be something to the nature of
[28:44]
that we don't have objection
[28:46]
to anything happening in the revised site plan review.
[28:51]
Okay, I'll restate it then.
[28:53]
Conservation Commission has no objections
[28:56]
to the revised plan presented for 180 7 Hampstead Road.
[29:00]
Map 10, law number 12.
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There's a first by Mr. Metz. Second.
[29:05]
There's a second. First and second on the floor.
[29:07]
Those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[29:13]
Unanimous. Motion carries. Thanks guys.
[29:15]
Thank you very much folks. Thank you. You have a good
[29:17]
Night.
[29:18]
You too. I'm gonna give you these full set back
[29:20]
because these are really our,
[29:22]
our land manager did such a great job on these,
[29:24]
this satisfy,
[29:37]
You don't need this
[30:07]
No, right here.
[30:12]
Oh, Oh, for the,
[30:17]
Okay.
[30:18]
Good work on that site plan.
[30:19]
I review Our next order
[30:20]
of business is our i naturalist training with Steven Lamond
[30:25]
from Moose Wood Ecological.
[30:27]
And I think Owen is getting him, getting him queued up,
[30:36]
Huh?
[30:42]
Yeah, that's why I bought that. Somebody made this.
[30:45]
It's nice. Yeah. It's got a little gross
[30:48]
on your credit cards.
[30:49]
Yeah, that's a
[30:53]
whistle for what?
[30:56]
Well, maybe, oh no, it's not this one.
[31:01]
Wish it was. That's a safety whistle for me.
[31:10]
Okay. It's in case you're out and about by yourself.
[31:13]
It's very good.
[31:17]
Hello everyone. Can you hear me?
[31:19]
There he is. There he is. Who's that guy?
[31:22]
Hello everyone. Well, he was there beside for a second.
[31:33]
Besting time testing. There
[31:34]
You are.
[31:35]
Gotcha. Hey Steven.
[31:37]
All righty. Hey everyone.
[31:39]
I'm currently seeing two of myself, so let me
[31:44]
make this a little less distracting.
[31:45]
One second.
[31:53]
Great. Good evening all.
[31:55]
Thank you so much for making time on your agenda
[31:58]
for this evening's iNaturalist training.
[32:01]
I imagine most of you all know at this point
[32:04]
that it we'll be hosting a BioBlitz at the Broadview Farm
[32:07]
on June 27th.
[32:09]
So just a couple weeks from now.
[32:12]
So the goal for tonight is to me, for me
[32:14]
to share a presentation with you all about iNaturalist,
[32:18]
why it's important, how we're using it for the BioBlitz,
[32:22]
and giving you all a, a quick primer on how
[32:24]
to use iNaturalist come BioBlitz day,
[32:26]
but also throughout the year.
[32:29]
Does anyone have any questions before I dive in?
[32:32]
No. All righty. I should be able to share my screen.
[32:46]
Okay. Can you all see this?
[32:48]
Yep. Great.
[32:53]
So tonight I'll be talking about iNaturalist primarily.
[32:57]
I can't see you all at the moment,
[32:59]
but for your own sake, quick show of hands,
[33:01]
who here has heard of or used iNaturalist before?
[33:07]
Three hands. Alright, thank you. Great.
[33:11]
So I'm, I'm really excited to be here tonight
[33:15]
and for the three of you who have used
[33:17]
or heard of iNaturalist before, feel free to chip in
[33:21]
with any follow up questions over the course
[33:23]
of this next month as we prepare for the BioBlitz.
[33:29]
Okay. So just,
[33:31]
I'm gonna give you a broad sense of biodiversity.
[33:34]
We think of it as all the species on
[33:37]
earth, but it's really more than that.
[33:38]
It's all the genetic things that are present at
[33:43]
that scale in addition to species as well
[33:45]
as whole ecosystems.
[33:46]
And so the town of dairy comprises of a lot
[33:48]
of Appalachian oak forest as well as some hemlock hardwood,
[33:52]
pine, lots of different kinds
[33:53]
of wetlands and aquatic systems.
[33:55]
And these all come together to form the foundation
[33:58]
of the town's biodiversity.
[34:01]
We value biodiversity for a lot of different reasons.
[34:05]
We might not think of it on a day-to-day basis
[34:07]
unless you're someone like me who's working in the
[34:09]
environmental world all the time.
[34:11]
But it maintains our air quality.
[34:14]
It, it, it mitigates climate change.
[34:16]
Hazards helps control water runoff.
[34:18]
We value it from a recreational standpoint.
[34:21]
We depend on it for food,
[34:23]
for clean water and, and so much more.
[34:27]
Sorry, is there a question?
[34:30]
Nope, go ahead. Okay, sorry.
[34:33]
And so there's all these benefits to it
[34:35]
and the Broadview farm plays a large part
[34:37]
of supporting the town's biodiversity.
[34:42]
Unfortunately, we're in this environmental crisis
[34:45]
where over the next century,
[34:47]
a million species face the threat of extinction.
[34:50]
And by do hosting this BioBlitz at the Broadview farm,
[34:54]
we can better get a sense
[34:55]
of which species are present in dairy
[34:58]
and hopefully work to conserve them
[35:00]
and preserve their presence on the landscape.
[35:02]
Or in order to do that, we need people
[35:03]
to show up to the BioBlitz.
[35:05]
We need the Conservation commission
[35:06]
to keep doing their good work
[35:08]
and spreading the word about
[35:10]
biodiversity and why it's important.
[35:14]
So in order to do this, we need more people
[35:17]
caring about nature and getting out to more places
[35:20]
and finding more species as we know it.
[35:23]
So far in New Hampshire, there's maybe 15,000 species
[35:27]
of plants and wildlife that have been documented,
[35:30]
but there's so much more out there that we just don't know.
[35:33]
And so one of the great reasons to host a BioBlitz is
[35:35]
to walk slowly even through a familiar place
[35:37]
and find new species
[35:39]
that hadn't been previously known either from that area,
[35:42]
from the town, from the county,
[35:43]
or even the state of New Hampshire.
[35:45]
It's not uncommon that we find new species not previously
[35:48]
known from New Hampshire during these kinds of events.
[35:52]
So this is where iNaturalist comes in.
[35:54]
It was founded in the mid two thousands
[35:56]
and it's one of the largest
[35:58]
biodiversity databases out there.
[36:00]
And it makes it really easy for average people
[36:03]
to participate and share their observations of nature
[36:08]
with others, with scientists, with conservationists,
[36:11]
with researchers to better preserve
[36:13]
and understand our biodiversity.
[36:16]
So there's an app version which is incredibly user
[36:19]
friendly and it's free.
[36:21]
They have it both for iOS and Android versions.
[36:24]
There's also a website where you can dive into the data
[36:26]
and explore it a bit more, but it's incredibly engaging.
[36:30]
And all you need is a smartphone or an iPad
[36:33]
or a camera where you can go out
[36:35]
and take a picture of something you're seeing,
[36:37]
you don't even have to know what it is, submit it
[36:39]
to the platform and other iNaturalist users will come along
[36:42]
and help validate, confirm
[36:44]
or correct the initial identification.
[36:47]
And this platform is widely used by, by scientists.
[36:51]
Over a thousand academic papers were published using an
[36:54]
naturalist data in 2024 alone.
[36:57]
And so we might not always know when our observations are
[36:59]
used by others to promote conservation
[37:01]
and biodiversity preservation,
[37:03]
but it is and it's really valuable.
[37:07]
So here's how it works.
[37:09]
If you want to take notes, feel free.
[37:11]
But there's lots of great online training materials as well
[37:14]
for you to brush up on,
[37:16]
on your own time prior to the BioBlitz.
[37:18]
And then I'll be there in person all day Saturday
[37:20]
to answer any questions you may have in person.
[37:23]
But ideally you all will have some time to get out
[37:25]
of practice prior to the event.
[37:29]
So step one is to download the app, create an account
[37:32]
and log in and then go out and take a photo.
[37:35]
You can either take a photo through the app
[37:38]
or you could go through your phone's photo library
[37:41]
and upload photos that you've already taken after the fact.
[37:45]
This is one of the first things
[37:46]
that I did when I learned about unnatural, is I went back
[37:49]
through years of historic photos to figure out
[37:51]
what I actually saw back in 2000 or or 1995.
[37:56]
And so if you're using a regular camera, similar,
[37:58]
you just upload your photos through the website.
[38:01]
That's preferred for a lot of photographers
[38:03]
who have nice cameras and like
[38:04]
to take better pictures than a phone might.
[38:08]
And then new as of just a couple years ago,
[38:09]
you can also record sound.
[38:11]
This makes it a lot easier to document birds as well
[38:14]
as singing amphibians where they might go quiet
[38:18]
or fly away if you try to get close enough for a photo,
[38:20]
especially with your phone.
[38:22]
So once you've gathered that evidence of the organism,
[38:26]
you then submit it through the app
[38:28]
or the website through the newer version of the app.
[38:31]
It'll, it has a built-in AI that goes through your image
[38:35]
and accounts for the time of year and the year
[38:37]
and the location of the observation.
[38:40]
And it gives top recommendations for what it is
[38:44]
that you probably saw.
[38:46]
If you agree with it, go ahead and click save.
[38:48]
If you're not so sure, you could always identify it at a
[38:50]
higher taxonomic level.
[38:52]
So this white daisy tidy tips is a
[38:55]
plant not found in our area.
[38:56]
It's more in a west,
[38:58]
but we do have plenty of western
[39:00]
honeybees pictured here on the left.
[39:02]
And so if you're not sure, that's fine,
[39:05]
just add a comment like, oh, tentative ID
[39:07]
or not a hundred percent sure about this,
[39:09]
or this is what I not suggested, I'm just going with it.
[39:11]
That's all fine. The goal is
[39:13]
to get the observation submitted with some sort
[39:16]
of identification and then others can come along and,
[39:18]
and correct or or verify.
[39:22]
And then once it's been posted to iNaturalist,
[39:25]
it's now publicly accessible
[39:27]
and others can, can view this for their research
[39:30]
or conservation needs and so on.
[39:35]
Alright, so I'm gonna share with you a,
[39:37]
a short 92nd video on some tips for how
[39:40]
to make an observation.
[39:42]
I will note that iNaturalist made this video
[39:45]
using an older version of the app,
[39:48]
but the, the concepts still apply.
[39:50]
And so if you have downloaded the, the the new version
[39:53]
of the app, your screen may look a little different,
[39:56]
but you'll still be able to follow the steps.
[40:03]
Okay, so you've installed the
[40:04]
iNaturalist app and create an account.
[40:06]
Time to get outside and record your first observation.
[40:08]
Here's how to do it. Any living thing like
[40:13]
a plant animal or fungus can be an
[40:15]
observation, a iNaturalist.
[40:23]
Once you find something you'd like to record, just tap,
[40:25]
observe and take a photo.
[40:28]
You can review your picture, then hit next.
[40:30]
If it looks good to identify
[40:35]
it hit what did you see?
[40:37]
If you have an internet connection,
[40:38]
iNaturalist will suggest 10 visually similar species
[40:41]
and often a common ancestor.
[40:42]
You can choose one of those or search for species name, name
[40:48]
on this observation detail screen.
[40:50]
You can add more photos of the same organism or write a note
[40:59]
the date, time and location have been automatically added.
[41:03]
You can also change the geo privacy of the observation mark,
[41:07]
whether it's captive or cultivated or add it to a project.
[41:13]
Once you're finished, just hit share
[41:15]
and your observation will be uploaded
[41:16]
for everyone to see and identify.
[41:18]
That's it. Keep on exploring and sharing.
[41:29]
Great. So here's a quick recap of that video.
[41:32]
Install the app on your phone and then go ahead
[41:36]
and create a free account.
[41:37]
You'll need a, a username, a password and an email address.
[41:41]
And then go outside or inside lots of spiders
[41:44]
or a couple spiders live in my basement
[41:46]
or the leaves in my gutter.
[41:47]
That all counts as biodiversity.
[41:50]
Just find a living organism or a sign of one.
[41:53]
And so you might find maybe a deer antler
[41:55]
or some deer scat that counts as well.
[41:57]
It could be a bird feather that you found. That's fine too.
[42:01]
iNaturalist is not a database for rocks
[42:04]
or non-living things or fossils.
[42:07]
So evidence or evidence of a living organism
[42:10]
or an actual living organism
[42:12]
that's been alive in recent history.
[42:16]
Tap observe to choose the observation type.
[42:19]
So this is where you can choose between taking a photo
[42:21]
through the app, choosing a photo from your phone's photo
[42:23]
library, or going ahead
[42:25]
and recording a sound through the app.
[42:29]
And then take the photo well that I just said,
[42:31]
those options, and then identify what you found
[42:33]
to the best of your ability.
[42:35]
So iNaturalist does have those built-in suggestions,
[42:38]
but it is wrong.
[42:40]
Occasionally it's gotten much better over the years,
[42:43]
but it still makes mistakes sometimes.
[42:44]
And so for this picture on the bottom right, some
[42:47]
of you may know this as American pokeweed,
[42:49]
if you do go ahead
[42:51]
and submit as as that, if you say, well,
[42:53]
it's a plant, that's all I've got.
[42:55]
Plant is perfectly fine, as long as it gets the ball rolling
[42:59]
and doesn't stay at the unknown level, that's the goal.
[43:03]
The catchall category, if you're really not sure is life,
[43:07]
you know, is, is it a fungus or some sort of slime mold.
[43:10]
If you're not sure, just submit it
[43:12]
as life and that's good enough.
[43:15]
And then go ahead and share your observation.
[43:18]
One note I'll make on this is
[43:20]
I'm not sure if the cell phone service at Broadview Farm is
[43:24]
good or not, or if people are on a
[43:26]
limited cellular data plan.
[43:28]
You can upload your observations when you get home over
[43:31]
a wifi connection.
[43:32]
It doesn't have to be submitted right
[43:34]
there wherever you are.
[43:36]
It'll be saved in the app
[43:37]
and then you can sync your observations when you have a
[43:40]
better or stronger internet connection.
[43:45]
This video is, offers some tips on how to take better photos
[43:50]
so that whatever it is
[43:51]
that you're seeing has a higher chance
[43:52]
of getting identified.
[44:57]
Great. And here's the recap.
[44:59]
Not all of us are expert photographers.
[45:02]
I'm, I'm far from that myself.
[45:04]
I'll submit the occasional blurry photo
[45:06]
on a, on a given day.
[45:08]
But overall, try to get close
[45:10]
but also be respectful of wildlife in particular.
[45:13]
Our goal is not to harass wildlife, just to get a photo.
[45:16]
We need to be respectful of, of them and
[45:18]
and what they're trying to do.
[45:19]
So get as close as you can reasonably.
[45:21]
If it's a plant, certainly go right up to it.
[45:23]
Just be mindful of thorns
[45:25]
or poison ivy, something like that within the observation
[45:30]
page on, on the app
[45:32]
or the website, you can combine multiple photos into the
[45:35]
same observation and that's highly recommended so
[45:37]
that anyone who's looking at your photo says, okay,
[45:40]
here's a detailed view of the leaf.
[45:41]
Here's more of a, a back of view of the bark
[45:44]
or maybe the whole structure of a tree.
[45:47]
And then try to make sure your photos are in focus as well.
[45:50]
You know, blurry photos can be okay for certain things
[45:54]
that are really recognizable,
[45:56]
but when you can make sure your photos are as detailed
[46:00]
as possible, this is can be really important
[46:01]
for certain plants and insects where there's, you know,
[46:05]
small, small details
[46:06]
and measurements that need to be made in order
[46:09]
to identify something down to the species level.
[46:11]
Pop quiz. Does anyone know
[46:13]
what this species here on the page is?
[46:18]
Milkweed? Is that milkweed? No,
[46:20]
It's a good guess.
[46:21]
Not milkweed.
[46:24]
Poplar beach. It's
[46:27]
A beach.
[46:28]
Yes, this is an American beach rather healthy looking,
[46:30]
looking one as you can see from the park here.
[46:33]
Yep. So all three, all these three are the same species.
[46:38]
Alrightyy. Let's see. Moving on to some other best practices
[46:40]
that I've come up with over the years.
[46:46]
Each observation should be of a single organism.
[46:49]
So I did mention just a minute ago
[46:50]
that you can combine multiple photos into one observation
[46:53]
that's recommended for photos of the same organism,
[46:57]
the same tree, the same plant, the same butterfly.
[46:59]
However, the tree plant
[47:01]
and the butterfly should not be in the same observation.
[47:05]
They should all be kept separate.
[47:06]
And that can be an easy pitfall for first time users.
[47:10]
The focus of the BioBlitz will be all native species.
[47:14]
It also introduce species if they're growing
[47:17]
naturally or in the wild.
[47:18]
We want to try to avoid anything
[47:20]
that's been planted, cultivated or captive.
[47:23]
So I think there may be some small gardens on the property
[47:27]
and maybe some trees that have been planted over time.
[47:29]
But most of the stuff we'll find should be wild growing.
[47:33]
Otherwise, if it's not, we'll just market
[47:35]
as cultivated captive.
[47:36]
And that'll help separate those observations out
[47:39]
from our final tally.
[47:42]
Again, to save on that cellular data.
[47:44]
If the, if it's limited at the farm
[47:46]
or if anyone's on a limited data plan,
[47:49]
I recommend uploading observations at home.
[47:51]
Usually goes much quicker, a little less painstaking trying
[47:54]
to do that out in the field.
[47:56]
And then in the settings you can turn off
[47:58]
the automatic upload.
[47:59]
Again, no need to memorize all of this.
[48:01]
I'll be there in person for the BioBlitz,
[48:03]
but if you do get out to practice beforehand,
[48:06]
you might wanna make a note.
[48:08]
And then this record sound option
[48:10]
that iNaturalist started using three
[48:12]
or four years ago is excellent.
[48:14]
We will be starting with a bird walk first
[48:17]
thing for the BioBlitz.
[48:18]
And so this will be a really great way
[48:20]
to document a lot of the birds that we're seeing.
[48:26]
And of course, multiple observations of
[48:28]
of the same species are encouraged.
[48:30]
So what this means is if someone already documents,
[48:32]
say common milkweed during the BioBlitz,
[48:34]
it's okay if another person documents another milkweed
[48:37]
elsewhere in the property or even
[48:38]
that same exact milkweed plant.
[48:41]
The goal not just is, is more than just finding
[48:44]
as many species as possible.
[48:46]
It's also to connect a bunch of people with nature, maybe
[48:50]
to share some identification tips
[48:52]
and just have an enjoyable day.
[48:55]
And so it's okay if we have duplicate observations
[48:57]
from different observers.
[48:59]
And another benefit to this is we can then more closely map
[49:02]
the distribution of certain species on the property.
[49:04]
Say there's an uncommon butterfly like the Baltimore checker
[49:08]
spot, which is actually kind of common at Broadview Farm
[49:10]
through iNaturalist and the BioBlitz.
[49:12]
We can map its distribution throughout the property.
[49:15]
Is it using certain fields more than others?
[49:17]
Or maybe it's avoiding places closest to the road or,
[49:20]
or the wetland edge.
[49:21]
So we can start to get a better sense of
[49:23]
how specific species are utilizing the property over time.
[49:29]
And I already mentioned this,
[49:30]
multiple people can document the same organism.
[49:32]
That's fine. How scientists treat iNaturalist data.
[49:35]
They account for this all the time.
[49:38]
And, and so there's no problem with doing that.
[49:42]
So a little bit more about iNaturalist,
[49:44]
over 4.2 million people
[49:46]
around the world have shared observations to the platform
[49:50]
and it's growing rapidly.
[49:52]
When I last did a similar presentation in November,
[49:55]
I think it was well below 4 million at that time.
[49:58]
And then there's the identification side of things.
[50:00]
So if you think about to when we submit an observation
[50:03]
to iNaturalist other,
[50:05]
another iNaturalist user will come along and verify
[50:07]
or say, oh actually I think it's in this
[50:10]
genus and and here's why.
[50:11]
And half a million people have done that
[50:13]
for other iNaturalist users.
[50:15]
So they're big, big part of the program
[50:17]
and making what it is today.
[50:21]
One of the, my favorite uses
[50:22]
of my naturalist is I can keep track
[50:24]
of everything I've seen both spatially as a map of, of
[50:27]
where I've traveled and a list of all the species
[50:30]
that I've documented over time.
[50:31]
And so it's, it's fun
[50:32]
because I won't necessarily remember everything
[50:34]
that I've seen on all these trips,
[50:36]
but through our naturalist I can keep a digital diary
[50:40]
of the biodiversity that I document.
[50:41]
And so it's really easy to set that up for yourself
[50:44]
or for, you know, a conservation commission as a group
[50:48]
or throughout the entire town.
[50:49]
That's something that we've done for
[50:50]
other conservation commissions.
[50:54]
On the species side of things,
[50:55]
you can filter observations both for your own records
[50:59]
and for other other iNaturalist projects.
[51:01]
So here on the left there, these are some
[51:04]
of the most common, most frequently documented
[51:07]
organisms that I've seen.
[51:08]
And then plants are on the right.
[51:10]
It's a good mix of, of New Hampshire species here.
[51:15]
Not only can you explore your own personal data
[51:17]
through our naturalist, but you can
[51:18]
explore everyone else's data.
[51:19]
So this is a map of all the observations
[51:21]
submitted to our naturalist.
[51:24]
It's heavily used in North America as well
[51:26]
as Western Europe, but there are tons
[51:28]
of observations from the Central Atlantic,
[51:30]
the South Pacific Antarctica even.
[51:33]
And so iNaturalist is,
[51:35]
is rapidly becoming the largest
[51:36]
biodiversity database out there.
[51:38]
It's certainly the widest used by scientists.
[51:42]
And so it, this sort of shows the whole picture of, of
[51:44]
what we're contributing to.
[51:46]
It's, it's not just a BioBlitz at Broadview farm on
[51:49]
June 27th and Derry New Hampshire we're contributing to a,
[51:52]
a much bigger project where scientific
[51:55]
and conservation discoveries are happening
[51:57]
at a really rapid pace.
[52:00]
So earlier, I guess it's now June, so in May I,
[52:04]
I set up this project on iNaturalist.
[52:06]
It's for Broadview farm conservation area.
[52:09]
Specifically this project will run in perpetuity as long
[52:13]
as iNaturalist exists it.
[52:15]
So it's a running tally of all the observations submitted
[52:19]
on the conservation area property.
[52:22]
Okay. And so already you're up to 1100 observations
[52:26]
of 327 species.
[52:29]
These are some observations made
[52:31]
by an observer just 24 hours ago who is out
[52:35]
documenting things on the property.
[52:37]
You can also keep track of the most
[52:40]
frequently observed species on the property.
[52:42]
So pex skipper, smaller butterflies,
[52:44]
the number one most observed species.
[52:47]
If you couldn't guess, this is a really popular place
[52:49]
for butterfly enthusiasts to go.
[52:50]
Yeah, definitely is. There's a lot of, a lot
[52:52]
of great butterflies there and a lot of people know it.
[52:55]
Yep. So one of my goals for the BioBlitz is to say, okay,
[53:00]
some people focus on the butterflies,
[53:02]
but let's document more of the plants, some of the less
[53:05]
appreciated insects.
[53:06]
Certainly we'll be looking for slime molds and,
[53:09]
and obscure things as well as common things as well
[53:12]
to really round out, you know,
[53:13]
are these the most common species at Broadview farm
[53:17]
or there seems like there's just a heavy focus on
[53:19]
butterflies so far.
[53:22]
So we'll be exploring that all day.
[53:24]
And then you can also view a map for
[53:26]
where across the property these observations have been made.
[53:30]
Each point can be clicked on.
[53:31]
You can look at the observation details.
[53:33]
So this one was from yesterday, green clover worm moth.
[53:37]
They're flying right now pretty common and and grassy areas,
[53:42]
but I'm sure we'll find a lot more come June 27th.
[53:47]
I will share a link with this, a link to the project
[53:50]
with Beth who can share it out
[53:52]
to the entire conservation commission for you
[53:54]
to explore prior to the BioBlitz.
[53:58]
Okay, so we're, we're gonna be collecting a lot
[54:01]
of data from Broady farm during the BioBlitz,
[54:03]
but as I mentioned, this project will run in perpetuity.
[54:06]
So what could you as a conservation commission do with it?
[54:09]
Well, here are some options.
[54:11]
You'll be able to get a sense for the species that are there
[54:14]
and maybe elsewhere in dairy.
[54:15]
Which ones are locally common uncommon or even rare.
[54:20]
You could even use the data
[54:22]
to target invasive species for removal.
[54:24]
So if that's of interest, you'll now have a map of
[54:27]
where these species are located
[54:28]
and what concentrations they are so
[54:30]
that it takes part of the planning.
[54:32]
It's already been done for you.
[54:34]
You say, okay here's the Japanese knot.
[54:35]
We let's tackle this in 2026 glossy buckthorn in 2027.
[54:39]
And you'll have places ready to go.
[54:43]
You can monitor climate driven arrivals and departures.
[54:45]
So in the 1970 breeding bird atlas of New Hampshire,
[54:50]
red billed Woodpecker
[54:51]
and Carolina Ren weren't even mentioned yet.
[54:53]
Now for those of you who know your birds,
[54:55]
they're everywhere all the way up to the white mountains.
[54:58]
Yep. And so places like a naturalist can help keep track
[55:01]
and detect these early arrivals
[55:03]
or potential departures of species.
[55:05]
Maybe a certain violet
[55:07]
or even a certain kind
[55:08]
of moth maybe hasn't been seen in dairy in 30 years.
[55:11]
Is it really gone? Or maybe no one's documented it.
[55:15]
And so another great reason to host bios is
[55:18]
to fill in those missing data gaps.
[55:22]
And then of course, yes, we love talking about the plants
[55:24]
and animals, but as humans it's always good to connect
[55:27]
with others and share our passion for nature
[55:30]
and really inspire a deeper connection.
[55:32]
Once we know something
[55:33]
and care about it, we're more likely to protect it.
[55:36]
And so really working with, with spreading the word as much
[55:38]
as we can to attract a large audience to the BioBlitz.
[55:41]
And hopefully some kids will be
[55:43]
there for the next generation.
[55:47]
And then one of the cool features of
[55:48]
and working with iNaturalist data is you can create a local
[55:51]
phenology calendar for when certain species can be observed.
[55:55]
And so a lot of conservation commissions or land trusts
[55:57]
or other groups have worked with their iNaturalist data
[56:00]
to make calendars
[56:02]
or kiosk info signs about when the milkweed flowers or,
[56:06]
or when the azaleas bloom and what pollinators are visiting
[56:09]
and how how the shifts in flowering times can affect them.
[56:12]
And so you can create, you can collect data specific
[56:15]
to Broadview farm or other places in dairy
[56:18]
and then convert it into little informational signs
[56:21]
or data to,
[56:23]
to help other people understand the ecosystem at play.
[56:29]
Alrighty, I think I'm doing okay on time.
[56:30]
We'll have plenty of time for questions.
[56:32]
So upcoming end of June is the Broadview Farm BioBlitz.
[56:35]
This will be on Saturday. It'll be a 24 hour event.
[56:39]
I'll be there from about 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM
[56:43]
People are more than welcome to show up at midnight,
[56:45]
bring some black lights or ultraviolet lights
[56:48]
and look for moths or get there right at sunrise
[56:50]
around 5:00 AM 4 45.
[56:53]
And when the dawn course is really going
[56:55]
to document more birds.
[56:56]
And then after I leave, you know, the event doesn't end
[56:59]
until midnight on Saturday.
[57:01]
And so folks are welcome to attend
[57:04]
after Al be gone if they're unable
[57:06]
to be there during the day.
[57:07]
So it will be a 24 hour event.
[57:09]
We'll see how many species we can find on a good day.
[57:13]
This bios is really well time for the end of June,
[57:15]
which is almost peak biodiversity season
[57:18]
here in Southern New Hampshire.
[57:20]
I expect we'll find between 300, 600 species wow within
[57:24]
that 24 hour period.
[57:26]
Probably a bunch of species that have not been documented
[57:29]
before in dairy and maybe one to five species
[57:32]
that I haven't been seen before in New Hampshire
[57:34]
and put on that naturalist.
[57:36]
So I've got high hopes for this event, even if it rains.
[57:38]
We're still looking at well over 200 species
[57:41]
depending on the plant diversity in particular.
[57:45]
But I, I'm really, really excited for this event.
[57:47]
So before the event, here's how you can help out advertise,
[57:51]
advertise, advertise.
[57:53]
The more people we have show up at any time on Saturday,
[57:57]
the more eyes we have, the more people
[58:00]
who can make observations
[58:02]
and certain people just gravitate towards
[58:04]
different parts of nature.
[58:06]
Some people like to look up at the sky.
[58:08]
I myself might find myself calling on my hands
[58:10]
and knees in the middle of the vit.
[58:12]
And so we'll have people sort of looking in all directions,
[58:15]
different things, catching their eyes
[58:17]
and documenting what we find.
[58:19]
I'll be reaching out to some power users of iNaturalist
[58:23]
who live in the area to make sure this is on
[58:26]
their calendars for that event.
[58:28]
So also I recommend creating your iNaturalist to count ahead
[58:32]
of time and practicing.
[58:34]
Try to submit five or 10 observations beforehand just
[58:37]
to sort of smooth out the kinks.
[58:38]
And if you're really having trouble,
[58:40]
certainly arrive on Saturday when I'll be there
[58:43]
and I'm happy to help you in person.
[58:46]
So with that I'd like to break for questions.
[58:54]
I had one that just popped up at the end.
[58:55]
You said power users in the area.
[58:58]
So is that something you're able to see like an account
[59:00]
with like hundreds of observations like people
[59:03]
who are really already active
[59:05]
and connected to natural communities in these areas?
[59:08]
Is that what you're saying?
[59:10]
Absolutely. And so what you could do an iNaturalist
[59:13]
and what I'll be doing is I can go
[59:15]
to the explore page looking at the town of Derry
[59:18]
or maybe more broadly Rockingham County
[59:20]
and seeing who are the top iNaturalist
[59:22]
observers in the area.
[59:24]
Maybe they have a thousand observations
[59:26]
or 10,000 observations already submitted.
[59:29]
And I'll send them a little message
[59:30]
and say, Hey, if you're free this weekend, we'd love
[59:32]
to have you here and help out with your expertise
[59:36]
to help us find more species.
[59:38]
Oh, that's awesome. That Would be really helpful. Yeah.
[59:42]
Another question just in regards to your hopes
[59:45]
for identifying species
[59:46]
and stuff, is that going to be included against
[59:49]
or compared against the number
[59:50]
with the observations that are already there?
[59:53]
'cause it said like 1000 current,
[59:54]
some odd current observations, this many species
[59:57]
and this many observers on that area.
[59:59]
Is that something we're gonna be comparing with
[1:00:01]
or are you just hoping to like include that, you know,
[1:00:03]
like species already observed
[1:00:05]
and like you said, re-surging them is okay?
[1:00:08]
Yeah, that's a great question.
[1:00:09]
And so once the observations are submitted
[1:00:12]
to our naturalist, I'll apply a filter
[1:00:14]
for just the observation seen on Saturday
[1:00:18]
and that'll give us a tally of everything documented
[1:00:21]
during the BioBlitz and we can directly compare that
[1:00:23]
to everything seen prior to the BioBlitz.
[1:00:26]
And then we can also view everything all together.
[1:00:28]
And so the project that I've set up will update in real time
[1:00:32]
as observations are submitted
[1:00:34]
and that'll give you the running tally for the property.
[1:00:37]
And then I'll be able to filter it
[1:00:39]
for just the BioBlitz day, how did we do?
[1:00:42]
And the plan is to write, you know,
[1:00:44]
a little half page write up with some highlights to share
[1:00:47]
with you that you can then post to social media or,
[1:00:49]
or use for outreach and go from there.
[1:00:53]
Nice. I actually have two questions.
[1:00:56]
I I haven't used it before, I'm just, just signed on now.
[1:01:00]
So the first one is, and so in in, in terms of like the,
[1:01:03]
the database, is it similar to social media
[1:01:06]
that it's like grouped by species or by areas states?
[1:01:11]
So in other words, if like I went tonight on the way home
[1:01:14]
and submitted something,
[1:01:16]
or if I traveled somewhere else, like across the country,
[1:01:18]
like I would have my own account very similar to that.
[1:01:21]
And that would be, how would they be grouped?
[1:01:24]
Would they be grouped by species, by areas by?
[1:01:28]
So if I was interested in say, cross-referencing a species,
[1:01:32]
like how would I look that up?
[1:01:35]
That's a good question
[1:01:36]
and if I don't answer it, feel free to ask it again.
[1:01:39]
Okay. When you submit an observation to try a naturalist,
[1:01:42]
you can access it in a lot of different ways.
[1:01:44]
And so if you're looking at just your personal data,
[1:01:46]
you'll be able to see all your species.
[1:01:48]
You can also click on an observation
[1:01:50]
and look at a map for where
[1:01:51]
that species has been seen elsewhere throughout the world.
[1:01:54]
And so all the species as well as other taxa.
[1:01:57]
So you could look at genus family order class,
[1:02:01]
kingdom levels and see a map of observations.
[1:02:04]
You could read more about each taxonomic level for
[1:02:08]
to get some fun facts.
[1:02:09]
And on iNaturalist, each profile page for genus species,
[1:02:13]
et cetera, has links to other resources online.
[1:02:17]
And so the app is really an entry point to iNaturalist
[1:02:21]
where you can submit data, kind
[1:02:23]
of peruse your own observations easily.
[1:02:27]
But the real magic of iNaturalist, from my opinion,
[1:02:29]
is using the website
[1:02:31]
and exploring the data in all these different facets.
[1:02:35]
And so you can group things
[1:02:36]
and endless ways, which doesn't really answer your question,
[1:02:40]
but anything's possible.
[1:02:42]
Okay. I I think I understand.
[1:02:43]
And then the second is, does it, does it identify via video?
[1:02:48]
So if you have, like, say you have like a camera on your
[1:02:51]
property and animal comes by, does you know, does video
[1:02:54]
that you may have in your, in your photos
[1:02:57]
or in your, your own phone app, would that be usable
[1:03:02]
or does it need to be still photo?
[1:03:04]
Great question. It does not accept video.
[1:03:08]
However, it will accept a gif photo, A GIF.
[1:03:12]
And so there are free online programs
[1:03:14]
where you can convert a video to a gif and then upload that.
[1:03:18]
And so it still looks like a video when you submit it?
[1:03:21]
Yeah, to a naturalist, but it's a different format.
[1:03:24]
I've never done it, but lots of people have.
[1:03:27]
So that is an option When I, when I put out trail cameras
[1:03:30]
for work or for pleasure, I usually have a, most of them set
[1:03:33]
to photo just so I can upload them
[1:03:35]
to my naturalist really easily.
[1:03:37]
But the videos are so compelling
[1:03:38]
that I always have some of those out as well.
[1:03:41]
Okay, thank you. Just something that was thought
[1:03:45]
of over here is, you know, we're using this for
[1:03:48]
specifically broad view, this bio blitz and stuff,
[1:03:50]
but of course you know, this is gonna be something
[1:03:53]
that hopefully our community will jump on
[1:03:55]
for other properties and we might wanna do this at
[1:03:57]
other properties as well.
[1:03:59]
We do allow, this might be maybe not connected,
[1:04:03]
but we do allow hunting on some of our properties.
[1:04:06]
And so maybe then bringing up some concerns about
[1:04:09]
tracking the species, you know,
[1:04:11]
seasonal hunting species that might be in those areas.
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Has that ever rage raised any concern at all?
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Absolutely. And so yes,
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that can be a concern not only just for species
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that might be hunted, but also
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for rare and threatened species.
[1:04:24]
Right. Particularly turtles or snakes
[1:04:26]
or things that might get poached.
[1:04:27]
Right. And so in that 92nd video that I shared,
[1:04:31]
it went over it really quickly.
[1:04:33]
Oh, I didn't see that. But there's a geo privacy option
[1:04:36]
where you can, it's open by default,
[1:04:38]
which means others can see the specific location
[1:04:41]
for the observation, but you can change it to obscured
[1:04:44]
and that essentially hides the true coordinates
[1:04:46]
of the observation from everyone but yourself
[1:04:49]
unless you give another user specific permission
[1:04:52]
to look at the true coordinates for that observation.
[1:04:55]
And so the obscured observations are hidden within,
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I think a 20 kilometer by 40 kilometer box.
[1:05:03]
It's a pretty big area.
[1:05:04]
So it's, it's very difficult to tell where
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that observation was actually made,
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but it doesn't quite obscure it to the fact
[1:05:11]
where we don't know where in the world this photo was taken,
[1:05:14]
which would be if you change the geo privacy,
[1:05:16]
privacy settings to private,
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which hides the location entirely.
[1:05:23]
And that makes it really hard for anyone to identify
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what it is that you saw
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because something in Africa might look really similar
[1:05:29]
to something that's growing here.
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And there'd be no way to tell without a hint
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of the geography.
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And so for anything that you might be concerned about
[1:05:37]
or if you're observing around your house
[1:05:39]
and you don't necessarily wanna share
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your house location on a naturalist, you can obscure
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those observations.
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Personally, I don't care if people know
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where I submit on naturalist observations from.
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So most of my stuff is open unless it's something rare
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or endangered that might be poached.
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So I do obscure those
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and you could do the same thing for species
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that might be hunted that you don't want any
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hunters getting wind of.
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That's awesome. Thank you.
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Can I ask like if someone, like, if, if don't know,
[1:06:10]
if a species is like rare right?
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And you don't really know what it is, is there a way
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to go back and like if it's identified by, you know,
[1:06:20]
the other professionals on the site as something rare,
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can you go back and obscure it
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after you've already submitted? Hmm.
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Yes. Absolutely.
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So anything that you submit, you can always go back, delete,
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edit, change the parameters.
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It's all accessible to you.
[1:06:38]
The person who submitted it for really rare stuff,
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it's obscured by default.
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So say you saw a blendings turtle,
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which is state endangered, right?
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But you didn't know it was a blendings turtle,
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you would submit it and it'd be automatically
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obscured, which is excellent.
[1:06:53]
And that's not necessarily true for rare segs
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or kind of obscure plants like that
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'cause they're not necessarily poached
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or sold on the market for a thousand dollars a sedge.
[1:07:02]
Right. And so, you know, if you still wanted to obscure
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that rare observation, you could, you know,
[1:07:08]
once an identifi came in
[1:07:10]
and someone said, oh hey, this is really uncommon,
[1:07:12]
then you could choose if you want to obscure it or not.
[1:07:24]
You guys are doing great. These are
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really excellent questions.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Any other questions?
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Nothing. No. Probably day of.
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We'll, we'll we'll see. Yeah.
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Great. Staff has My contact info.
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Steve, you have a wrap? Do you have a wrap up
[1:07:42]
presentation or are we done?
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No, no, we're, we're ready to go for the BioBlitz.
[1:07:48]
Just get out there and practice if you have time. Right?
[1:07:51]
Woohoo. Okay. Great. Alright. Thank you Steve. Thank you.
[1:07:54]
That was great. Thank you Steve.
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Thank you all. Have a good night.
[1:07:56]
You too. You too too. Nice
[1:07:57]
job. I'm excited for that.
[1:08:01]
Yeah, it's cool. I didn't know it was gonna be at night.
[1:08:03]
That's neat. That's that's cool.
[1:08:05]
I didn't know it was gonna be at nighttime.
[1:08:07]
Oh, like 24 hours. Yeah. Wow.
[1:08:09]
That's cool. That is cool.
[1:08:10]
Yeah. The event that like where, where Steven is there
[1:08:12]
and we'll, you know, we'll have a tent up, et cetera.
[1:08:16]
Right. We'll be from eight to four.
[1:08:18]
Yeah. You won't be, are night. Yeah. People are encouraged
[1:08:22]
For the 24 hours.
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Very cool. Can you apply to camp?
[1:08:27]
Oh that's a great, okay. We are moving right along.
[1:08:30]
Community garden. J has, I think
[1:08:36]
J Jay couldn't be here, but I think, I think Beth, I, yeah.
[1:08:39]
Beth's frame can back before. Yep. Yeah.
[1:08:41]
Well the community garden is in full swing.
[1:08:45]
Every plot has been used and is being tended.
[1:08:49]
And we had, the
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opening day was May 9th
[1:08:56]
and there were 17 people in attendance.
[1:09:00]
Wow. Yeah. We had quite a few community gardeners come out
[1:09:04]
who wanted to lend a hand with staking
[1:09:07]
and Linda brought her delicious baked goods.
[1:09:11]
Yep. And it was, it was a great time.
[1:09:15]
It was raining the entire time. Yep.
[1:09:17]
But we, we powered through and, and it was great.
[1:09:23]
Jay did have some photos that he shared on the,
[1:09:28]
on the Facebook page for that, on the Facebook group.
[1:09:32]
So I'd encourage you to look at some
[1:09:34]
of the photos or stop by.
[1:09:38]
And he got the results of some soil testing back
[1:09:41]
that I think he'll share with you at the next meeting
[1:09:43]
that he's able to be at.
[1:09:46]
That's all for the community garden.
[1:09:51]
And do you wanna talk about Tammy briefly?
[1:09:55]
Yeah. Personnel.
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I know very little, but You don't as much as I know,
[1:09:59]
Assuming, assuming Tammy's not here tonight, last,
[1:10:02]
our last meeting she was in, they were traveling,
[1:10:05]
she was indisposed with her, hu her husband
[1:10:07]
and he had a medical emergency.
[1:10:09]
So I'm assuming if she's not here tonight, so Tammy,
[1:10:13]
if you listen, hope, hopefully everything's better
[1:10:15]
and we'll see you soon.
[1:10:17]
And unfortunately I discovered I had one job from the last
[1:10:20]
meeting and I didn't do it.
[1:10:23]
I will have information on Beth
[1:10:26]
and Tammy's reviews when they should be done.
[1:10:29]
I'll, I'll, I have a note
[1:10:31]
to call Catherine first thing in the morning in HR
[1:10:33]
and we'll get those scheduled within the next month.
[1:10:37]
Again, I apologize for that.
[1:10:40]
Okay. Thank you Mr. Metz.
[1:10:43]
Before we do Eileen's committee, do,
[1:10:48]
have we finished up the new name for it yet?
[1:10:50]
Yeah, so we,
[1:10:51]
So you want to announce what the new name
[1:10:53]
for Eileen's committee
[1:10:54]
Is?
[1:10:55]
So we're gonna go with the Environmental Policy
[1:10:57]
and Training Committee.
[1:11:00]
Alright. So the, so moving forward, Eileen is going
[1:11:04]
to be chairing the Environmental Policy
[1:11:07]
and Information Committee instead
[1:11:09]
of taking clients training committee.
[1:11:11]
Yeah. All right. What you got Eileen? Okay.
[1:11:17]
I did mention a few of these last meeting,
[1:11:19]
but this is a refresher for people that didn't
[1:11:22]
perhaps attend Last meeting on June 6th,
[1:11:26]
there's a wetlands ID workshop
[1:11:28]
that N-H-A-C-C is putting on.
[1:11:32]
It's gonna be from nine to 12 at Bow High School,
[1:11:34]
which is Falcon Way in Bow New Hampshire.
[1:11:36]
If you can register on the NH acc.org website
[1:11:42]
on June 12th, there is also an NHAC
[1:11:47]
conservation easement training
[1:11:49]
and that's gonna be held at the Sanborn Mills Farm in
[1:11:53]
loud New Hampshire.
[1:11:55]
It's essentially a free training from 10 to four,
[1:11:58]
but they would love it if you would mind,
[1:12:00]
wouldn't mind donating either 10, $20
[1:12:03]
or $30 towards, you know, the workshop
[1:12:10]
on June 19th.
[1:12:12]
There's gonna be excellent Trio Maintenance
[1:12:15]
and design workshop at the Appalachian Mountain Clubs Camp
[1:12:20]
Dodge, which is in Gorham, New Hampshire.
[1:12:23]
And you can sign up for that on the nh
[1:12:27]
acc.org website.
[1:12:30]
On June 13th,
[1:12:32]
there's gonna be a New Hampshire Audubon outing at Broadview
[1:12:36]
Farm, and that's from eight to 10:00 AM is a free event.
[1:12:41]
The leader is Joe Mahoney,
[1:12:43]
and you can register for that
[1:12:45]
on the New Hampshire Audubon website.
[1:12:49]
And that's all I have for tonight.
[1:12:54]
Thank you Emily. Yep. Property management's quiet, right?
[1:12:59]
Nothing going on. Am I missing anything?
[1:13:02]
We have that encroachment, but I can cover that in my
[1:13:06]
Okay.
[1:13:07]
Yeah, so we have the encroachment at
[1:13:10]
Doolittle. Is that Doolittle?
[1:13:12]
Broadview. Broadview. Oh really?
[1:13:14]
Broadview was gonna say that we're working on,
[1:13:17]
and Beth was share that during her report.
[1:13:21]
And Mr.
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Sper anything on land, what land maintenance,
[1:13:24]
other than all the inquiries about,
[1:13:26]
I'll be back to, to Beth.
[1:13:28]
We have a lot of inquiries about
[1:13:35]
Stuff.
[1:13:37]
Visually challenged people visiting. Yes. Yeah.
[1:13:39]
Visiting Ballard Forest that we've,
[1:13:43]
We've, yeah, Ballard State Park,
[1:13:45]
I think three different individuals reached out about,
[1:13:50]
about having trail accessibility for
[1:13:54]
visually impaired people.
[1:13:56]
And we've sent them to,
[1:14:00]
or you know, we've let them know the appropriate parties
[1:14:03]
to contact because, you know,
[1:14:06]
dairy Conservation Commission does not manage Ballard State.
[1:14:11]
That's a state property.
[1:14:12]
So the Urban Forestry Center is who is, who deals with that.
[1:14:17]
So we've sent them over to the Urban Forestry Center
[1:14:21]
with those inquiries.
[1:14:23]
But it did, it did kind of trigger a, a conversation
[1:14:27]
with Beth and I regarding at some
[1:14:32]
point as we, as we, you know,
[1:14:35]
kinda relabel our conservation properties, trying
[1:14:37]
to identify at least some properties that are
[1:14:40]
more appropriate for people that have physical challenges.
[1:14:45]
And maybe even have like a rating system
[1:14:47]
of some sort saying like, kinda like,
[1:14:49]
I think about like skiing, like,
[1:14:50]
so you have like a black diamond trail for advanced skiers.
[1:14:53]
Right. So, and we, we were talking about Shepherd earlier
[1:14:56]
and how, how shepherd's kind of a pretty easy easy property.
[1:15:00]
That might be a good one. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause
[1:15:01]
that's kind of flat.
[1:15:01]
It's got a little incline in the back when it comes up
[1:15:03]
to the upper field where like, Cornelius
[1:15:06]
and this is a, is a pretty challenging property
[1:15:09]
and so, so is Paul.
[1:15:11]
So maybe have some sort of grading system that we can,
[1:15:14]
that we can put on our properties that people will be able
[1:15:18]
to use that maybe aren't,
[1:15:19]
that have some challenges getting around.
[1:15:20]
It's a great idea. Yeah. So
[1:15:21]
Chair, I think, I think when we started talking about
[1:15:24]
trails eight or nine months ago, Bob,
[1:15:26]
you mentioned the state has trail ratings.
[1:15:30]
Am I correct or incorrect about that?
[1:15:32]
There's well, coming down through Forest Service
[1:15:35]
and everybody else, there is a company that has a system
[1:15:40]
that everybody really likes.
[1:15:41]
And that's basically what it is.
[1:15:43]
Instead of us saying, well, it's a black diamond,
[1:15:46]
what you would say is there's this kind of slope, the width
[1:15:50]
of the trail, et cetera, et cetera.
[1:15:52]
And it's up to you to know what your capabilities are.
[1:15:54]
So instead of us saying, well it's probably too rough
[1:15:57]
for you, it's like, here's what you're gonna encounter.
[1:16:00]
And then if they feel they can do it,
[1:16:02]
they can go out and enjoy it.
[1:16:03]
Pass, pass your own risk. Is that,
[1:16:06]
Is there a, is there like a label of like,
[1:16:08]
this is moderately challenging or anything like that?
[1:16:13]
Not really. It's, it, it's all pre-done on the sign.
[1:16:16]
There's like six parameters that are spell
[1:16:20]
that predetermined and you just read 'em
[1:16:22]
and know whether you can access it or not.
[1:16:24]
Okay. Okay. I think I wanna be a little more
[1:16:26]
definitive on our stuff though.
[1:16:28]
I think I, I mean, I get that
[1:16:29]
and they're, they're, they're kind
[1:16:30]
of hedging, I think to not, the,
[1:16:32]
The company name is Beneficial Designs
[1:16:36]
and they make a machine that you can walk along
[1:16:40]
and it's tied to a computer, it does all the measurements
[1:16:42]
for you and then plots it out.
[1:16:45]
But it gives you, in the end,
[1:16:49]
that sign basically there.
[1:16:53]
It's really cool company, great stuff.
[1:16:57]
I don't believe anybody here in New Hampshire has done it.
[1:17:00]
I saw it in practice out in Arizona.
[1:17:03]
They were doing a desert trail.
[1:17:06]
That one was actually for visually impaired.
[1:17:10]
And the whole trail had a rope alongside the hand the side.
[1:17:16]
And you go along and on the rope there'd be a knot.
[1:17:20]
And then you knew that you could reach out.
[1:17:22]
The sign was there. That was both regular text and
[1:17:27]
That's Cool that they could feel.
[1:17:29]
That's awesome. So yeah, it was a pretty cool design. That's
[1:17:32]
Awesome.
[1:17:33]
Yeah, I think, you know, we're, we're,
[1:17:34]
we're just starting the conversation.
[1:17:35]
I think it can be one of our goals as we, as we set goals,
[1:17:40]
at least identify a trail, a, a conservation property
[1:17:45]
that might be more friendly to
[1:17:46]
people that have those challenges.
[1:17:49]
Okay. We're moving right along and we have land acquisition.
[1:17:54]
We're gonna have a, a discussion about that this evening.
[1:17:57]
We have a PowerPoint presentation
[1:17:59]
and we're gonna invite Owen to join us in a, in a non-public
[1:18:03]
to talk about the properties that we're considering.
[1:18:07]
Other thing we're doing is,
[1:18:08]
I mentioned earlier we're developing that form letter
[1:18:12]
as a solicitation to people that own property in town
[1:18:16]
that may be that unaware of the benefits
[1:18:18]
of preserving property and working with conservation.
[1:18:23]
And we're gonna follow that up with a,
[1:18:25]
a public media campaign through social media
[1:18:29]
and through dairy tv.
[1:18:31]
Just a brief excerpt.
[1:18:32]
We were talking about the Shepherd
[1:18:34]
property in our pre-meeting.
[1:18:36]
Something that looks like, did you know that the, you know,
[1:18:39]
a picture of the Shepherd property, maybe the shepherd feel.
[1:18:41]
And it would say something like, did you know
[1:18:42]
that the Shepherd property was donated to the town
[1:18:44]
by the Shepherd family and whenever it was done.
[1:18:48]
And just talk about a real brief, what some of the benefits
[1:18:51]
of, of, of doing that for the town is.
[1:18:54]
And then inviting people to reach out
[1:18:56]
to the Conservation Commission email address us,
[1:19:02]
you know, to, to move that forward.
[1:19:04]
So we'll work on all that stuff. And that, like I said, Mr.
[1:19:07]
Mets and I are working on the form letter as it as it gets
[1:19:10]
a little bit tighter, we'll share it
[1:19:12]
with the whole commission and get thoughts
[1:19:14]
and feedback on it.
[1:19:18]
Next we have Miss Val reporting compliance
[1:19:23]
Compliance, right.
[1:19:26]
Sorry, I had something. Okay. Reporting compliance.
[1:19:30]
So we had Sam from SE reach out
[1:19:34]
to us about monitoring the Dolittle property
[1:19:37]
for those unfamiliar that's accessed off of Faith Drive.
[1:19:40]
It's roughly a 94 acre property
[1:19:43]
with some frontage on Manter Brook.
[1:19:45]
Manter Brook primarily feeds in a lot
[1:19:47]
of water into Beaver Lake.
[1:19:50]
It was named after Albert Doolittle,
[1:19:52]
who was a commissioner for 22 years.
[1:19:55]
But yeah, so that property is in need of monitoring.
[1:19:58]
Salt is in charge of that.
[1:19:59]
It was supposed to be done on May 20th,
[1:20:02]
however, Sam did have to push it out.
[1:20:04]
I'm planning on being there in attendance
[1:20:07]
for this upcoming Wednesday is when we had
[1:20:10]
possibly sent it out for, yeah.
[1:20:14]
And I sent that over to the rest of the commission,
[1:20:16]
the committee too, that, that way they can stay in the loop.
[1:20:20]
And that's all for reporting compliance.
[1:20:23]
Thank you Val. And you have Net zero also?
[1:20:26]
Yeah, so going into the net zero task force,
[1:20:29]
they're still going on looking
[1:20:31]
for a community power provider.
[1:20:33]
They're working with Mike Fowler for a request for proposal
[1:20:36]
for the supplier for that.
[1:20:37]
The Net zero task force still does have their
[1:20:39]
recommendation, but they do have to go
[1:20:41]
through the RFP process.
[1:20:43]
Another thing they're working toward is the hybridization
[1:20:46]
of municipal fleet.
[1:20:48]
We had 10 hybrid patrol cars
[1:20:49]
become functional a few weeks ago.
[1:20:52]
The task force is going to be waiting about two
[1:20:54]
to three months to be taking data from the computers in
[1:20:56]
those vehicles to determine their efficiency in the
[1:20:58]
savings for the town.
[1:21:01]
And then we also just had some brief discussions
[1:21:04]
getting some of their input from the CWPP, especially
[1:21:07]
as it's coming to a close, making sure nothing's missing,
[1:21:11]
crossing t's dotting i's
[1:21:13]
and they're continuing to keep an eye on legislation as some
[1:21:16]
of the building codes and IECC things.
[1:21:18]
So I've continued to be tabled and pushed along.
[1:21:21]
And that's all for net zero Task force.
[1:21:26]
Thank you. Val, we skipped over Cheryl? Yes.
[1:21:31]
Oh, I'm sorry. No, my fault. No, I I just plowed through.
[1:21:34]
No, I I'm taking the wrap for
[1:21:35]
it for public outreach. Cheryl. Yeah.
[1:21:40]
Great. So we, it was a very,
[1:21:42]
it was actually very busy a couple of weeks.
[1:21:45]
Eileen and Beth were at,
[1:21:47]
what's the scoop at the Marion garish
[1:21:49]
and talking up the BioBlitz
[1:21:51]
and there's really been a lot of good buzz about that.
[1:21:53]
Also on Facebook. We've actually grown quite a bit.
[1:21:56]
We've at least doubled since we started
[1:21:59]
putting more effort into that.
[1:22:00]
The amount of followers on Facebook.
[1:22:02]
And there's been some wonderful engaging posts mostly
[1:22:05]
by Beth and Linda with all kinds
[1:22:08]
of very interesting content there.
[1:22:10]
And including tonight's iNaturalist training that was
[1:22:14]
posted as well.
[1:22:16]
Two dates if you'd like to put on your calendar.
[1:22:18]
I think they're really gonna be a lot of fun is
[1:22:20]
that we are confirmed
[1:22:21]
for a table at the dairy farmer's market.
[1:22:23]
Dairy Homegrown on, it's a Wednesday, August 12th.
[1:22:28]
I plan on being there. I'm not gonna be bringing my baked
[1:22:30]
goods that week, but I will be at the table
[1:22:34]
and we'll have some interesting things going on.
[1:22:36]
We'll meet as a committee beforehand and plan all of that.
[1:22:39]
And we are also confirmed for Dairy Fest,
[1:22:43]
which is September 19th from 10 to four.
[1:22:47]
So, and we can certainly use volunteers and the commission.
[1:22:50]
It'll be really a lot of fun.
[1:22:51]
And again, those dates are Wednesday, August 12th,
[1:22:55]
that's three to seven.
[1:22:56]
The market time and Dairy Fest.
[1:22:59]
We will be there September 19th from 10 to four.
[1:23:03]
Awesome. Are you passing out like referential like
[1:23:05]
materials, some of the things that we've been doing
[1:23:08]
and stuff, like what kind of help are you looking
[1:23:09]
for for those events?
[1:23:11]
Well, to be a presence. Yeah.
[1:23:13]
To be a presence, you know, at the table.
[1:23:15]
And bet's been wonderful working with
[1:23:17]
and designing materials to pass out.
[1:23:19]
Okay. And kind of answer questions that there might be.
[1:23:21]
I think the dairy
[1:23:24]
farmer's market would be a little different.
[1:23:25]
That could be something that could have some engaging,
[1:23:28]
like identifying plants or things for like children.
[1:23:30]
Yeah. So any suggestions you have that you want
[1:23:32]
to email about that ahead of time, that would give us time
[1:23:36]
to, you know, gather what we need.
[1:23:38]
And certainly if you have an interest in that
[1:23:40]
and engaging in that, that would be great.
[1:23:42]
Yeah. Thank you.
[1:23:45]
Be, do you want to do like a signup sheet
[1:23:47]
for both of those events?
[1:23:48]
Send it out to commission to commissioners
[1:23:50]
and try to get some commitments for times
[1:23:55]
and stuff like that because that's a long,
[1:23:57]
it's like an eight hour day.
[1:23:58]
So we split the work up a little bit. We always did it.
[1:24:01]
Different kinds of shifts, kind
[1:24:03]
of two hour shifts and stuff like that.
[1:24:04]
Yep.
[1:24:07]
Okay. TRCs,
[1:24:10]
TRCs, we skip everything.
[1:24:12]
Yep. I need a new optometrist. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:24:16]
I only had, you know one. No,
[1:24:18]
I don't either.
[1:24:19]
He's cute but he's not good. Thanks.
[1:24:23]
I only had one TRC since our last meeting.
[1:24:26]
It was this past Friday.
[1:24:27]
It concerned some lot line adjustments up at Denali Estates.
[1:24:32]
So it, it was already approved plan as one
[1:24:35]
of the people said it's just messing with lines.
[1:24:38]
So that was all we, I have that was all for that one.
[1:24:41]
Didn't have any other input.
[1:24:43]
There are two more coming up next, two consecutive Fridays.
[1:24:48]
One is a two acre, a two large subdivision.
[1:24:51]
And I can't remember what the, the next one is,
[1:24:54]
but I'll make sure I come in and look at the plans
[1:24:56]
and let you folks know if they have to come.
[1:25:00]
Denali had already been here 'cause it's phase four.
[1:25:03]
They are starting phase five and six, so they'll be
[1:25:07]
before us in the next few months.
[1:25:10]
And that's where the bulk of our cash money has come from
[1:25:15]
because a lot of that land up there was in current use.
[1:25:18]
So as they develop those pieces of property,
[1:25:20]
the current use money gets paid to us.
[1:25:22]
Yeah. Every time they sell a, every time they sell a lot
[1:25:25]
or a home there, we get a check,
[1:25:27]
Which is kind of nice.
[1:25:28]
That's all I have, Mr. Chair.
[1:25:30]
Thank you. Okay.
[1:25:33]
Beth, we have you LA in a report.
[1:25:36]
All right. I'm over here 'cause I just have some visuals
[1:25:39]
for you all that I'll refer to when we need to.
[1:25:44]
So, but the first thing is a couple of votes.
[1:25:47]
So one is you all need
[1:25:51]
to vote on paying Noah $450
[1:25:55]
for tilling the community garden this year.
[1:25:58]
He also helped us move a lot of the manure over there
[1:26:02]
and like spread that out.
[1:26:04]
So that was very helpful.
[1:26:06]
So we'll take those up as, as they,
[1:26:07]
you might as well just take them up as you go. Do
[1:26:09]
We have an invoice for that? Beth?
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Say that again? Do we have an invoice
[1:26:12]
yet from Noah for that?
[1:26:15]
That's a good question because
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We're gonna pay 'em.
[1:26:19]
We need it. We need that.
[1:26:20]
Yes. I I believe if we don't have an invoice
[1:26:23]
I can get one from him.
[1:26:24]
Okay, good. Can I get his last name? You
[1:26:26]
Need a vote for it?
[1:26:27]
Yeah. Noah's last name.
[1:26:28]
Noah's last name. I don't know Noah's last name.
[1:26:31]
It's Noah's Tractor service.
[1:26:32]
I don't wanna pay any off.
[1:26:34]
You know, I wanna pay the right Noah. Yeah, yeah,
[1:26:36]
Yeah.
[1:26:37]
Right.
[1:26:37]
Noah's tractor service Building a boat, right?
[1:26:40]
C is The, is the business name.
[1:26:42]
So Noah's tractor service. Noahs tractor service.
[1:26:45]
Okay. Alright. So we'll, we'll take 'em as they go.
[1:26:47]
As they come. Yeah. Is that okay? Okay. Alright.
[1:26:49]
So I moved to approve paying Noah's tractor service $450
[1:26:54]
for tilling the funds to be taken out
[1:26:56]
of the preservation account.
[1:26:58]
First. First by Mr. Metz. We have a second by Cheryl.
[1:27:02]
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[1:27:07]
That motion carries unanimously.
[1:27:10]
And you're gonna get Eileen an invoice for that, please?
[1:27:12]
Yes. Yes. Okay.
[1:27:14]
And then we have, so there's a
[1:27:20]
$13,000 account for
[1:27:24]
stewardship of the Cornelius
[1:27:26]
and property that we did some digging to find out
[1:27:30]
what we're able to use those funds for.
[1:27:32]
So some earlier funds that you've already voted on
[1:27:37]
and have already been taken care of.
[1:27:40]
But I spoke
[1:27:41]
with Mark Fleischer in the finance department about
[1:27:45]
how we can have the, the tree filling
[1:27:48]
that we had at Cornelius in
[1:27:50]
and the expense for conservation grass seed mix
[1:27:55]
that we had spread at Cornelius in can be, we can use
[1:27:59]
that account for those.
[1:28:00]
So he just needs a vote on the record
[1:28:04]
that you all would like to use those funds
[1:28:08]
to cover those expenses.
[1:28:10]
And Mr. Mets, before you do that, just
[1:28:12]
so people understand what that is.
[1:28:13]
So we have a specific $13,000 pot of money
[1:28:16]
that was allocated when we got the Cornelson property
[1:28:20]
that can only be used for the maintenance of
[1:28:22]
that Cornelson property.
[1:28:23]
So it's important for us to spend
[1:28:25]
that money when we're using that
[1:28:26]
'cause we're not, we don't do a lot of expending.
[1:28:28]
And it was, it was
[1:28:30]
because of Beth that we found out in our,
[1:28:32]
in our new meetings with, with the town finance folks we're,
[1:28:36]
we're discovering stuff as we go.
[1:28:38]
And that this is one of those discoveries.
[1:28:40]
So, so we're gonna
[1:28:42]
reallocate the funds have already been approved,
[1:28:45]
we just need to reallocate that those funds are going to be
[1:28:50]
allocated to that Cornelius account.
[1:28:54]
Right. Well, and those minutes, so those
[1:28:57]
Bills have already been like when you gave them
[1:28:59]
to me, I I Right.
[1:29:00]
Processed them and sent them in to the town.
[1:29:03]
So they're already in Yep.
[1:29:04]
Where were those funds taken from originally?
[1:29:08]
'cause what we're doing is voting a transfer. Right?
[1:29:12]
13 $1,460 from the coordination fund to
[1:29:16]
as a reimbursement. Right. So
[1:29:18]
It's, I have to look
[1:29:19]
Up what we originally said we were gonna take 'em out of.
[1:29:22]
I Mark doesn't need that. But
[1:29:23]
Doesn't Okay.
[1:29:25]
What Mark needs is minutes saying that we we're allocating
[1:29:30]
the 1460 that we already spent
[1:29:32]
and we want those, those funds to be allocated
[1:29:35]
to the Cornelius and maintenance right account.
[1:29:39]
We need, we need an motion it sounds like that.
[1:29:42]
Okay. I move to approve taking 1300 for tree felling
[1:29:47]
and 160 for conservation grass seed
[1:29:51]
for those things done at the Cornelius
[1:29:53]
and Farm out of the Cornelius and stewardship account.
[1:29:58]
Previously dispersed funds, Mr. Mess. Yeah.
[1:30:00]
Yep. Previously dispersed
[1:30:01]
Funds.
[1:30:02]
What was the amount for the grass seed again?
[1:30:03]
TH one 60 for the grass seed. Okay.
[1:30:05]
Which there's a motion on on the floor to as an accounting
[1:30:09]
change to allocate
[1:30:14]
those funds previously dispersed
[1:30:17]
to the Eson maintenance fund.
[1:30:20]
Is there a second?
[1:30:22]
Second. Okay. This is a first by Mr. Mets.
[1:30:25]
I second by Commissioner Val. All those in favor say aye.
[1:30:28]
Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[1:30:31]
Motion carries unanimously.
[1:30:32]
Thank you Beth Key, continue. Great. Great.
[1:30:35]
And then just an update on the CWPP.
[1:30:37]
So since our last meeting, that first draft was completed
[1:30:41]
by the core team and it's currently being reviewed
[1:30:44]
by the fire chief and when he is done reviewing it,
[1:30:47]
it's gonna move on to the next step of review
[1:30:51]
by other officials in town
[1:30:55]
the mike.
[1:30:58]
So through working with John Neely for the CWPP,
[1:31:02]
he put us in touch with Mike Gagnan at the UNH extension
[1:31:08]
and he, the forester who has offered
[1:31:12]
to attend a future meeting to discuss the process
[1:31:15]
of creating a forest management plan with us.
[1:31:19]
'cause we don't currently have a forest management plan in
[1:31:22]
place for, there was the process started
[1:31:26]
of putting together forest management plan
[1:31:29]
for a number of our properties.
[1:31:31]
But he said that he can come do that if we decide to do
[1:31:35]
that at a future meeting.
[1:31:37]
He can't create the forest management plan for us,
[1:31:40]
but he can help guide us through the process of that.
[1:31:44]
So he reached out to us.
[1:31:47]
And then for the bio blitz,
[1:31:49]
so we have six individuals signed up so far for 13 sessions.
[1:31:55]
'cause there's four sessions throughout the day.
[1:31:57]
So six individuals have already signed up
[1:32:00]
and I pressed this button I think.
[1:32:07]
Yay. Okay, great.
[1:32:10]
Oh no. Okay, hang on. There we go.
[1:32:15]
Okay. So I just wanted
[1:32:19]
to bring up this QR code so that anybody watching at home
[1:32:23]
can sign up via the QR code there
[1:32:27]
for the BioBlitz.
[1:32:29]
So that is where you would sign up.
[1:32:31]
We also have posters printed for that.
[1:32:34]
And I would, I have a list of places
[1:32:37]
that have bulletin boards, like places around town
[1:32:39]
that allow you to hang posters either in their windows
[1:32:42]
or on bulletin boards.
[1:32:44]
So just see me after the meeting to grab some posters
[1:32:48]
and sign your name on that so
[1:32:50]
that we don't have overlap people going to the same place.
[1:32:54]
And then we also heard from Matt Tar from UNH extension,
[1:32:59]
Barbara from N-H-A-C-C put us in touch with him
[1:33:04]
and he would like to lead a walk at Broadview on
[1:33:07]
September 18th at 4:00 PM That would be a follow up
[1:33:10]
to the BioBlitz we in,
[1:33:14]
in discussing in the land maintenance committee
[1:33:17]
earlier this year, one of the volunteers, Karen,
[1:33:21]
who volunteered on that committee, not as a commissioner,
[1:33:26]
but just as a volunteer, mentioned
[1:33:28]
that September is a really good time to visit Broadview
[1:33:31]
and see the flowers in bloom
[1:33:33]
and things have kind, you know, the foliage is a really
[1:33:36]
beautiful color at that point.
[1:33:38]
So we're planning a walk at Broadview
[1:33:42]
September 18th at 4:00 PM
[1:33:45]
Is that a Friday, Beth? It's a Friday.
[1:33:47]
That is I believe a Friday. Yes.
[1:33:52]
And then also with broad view.
[1:33:54]
So I'll bring my second visual up here.
[1:33:59]
So we have some, this is the,
[1:34:01]
oops, sorry.
[1:34:05]
Lemme just bring it up again.
[1:34:15]
Second reason why I am up here instead
[1:34:18]
of over there tonight,
[1:34:20]
How long do you use your foot?
[1:34:22]
Okay.
[1:34:29]
All right. So we have a few
[1:34:33]
no trespassing signs that were brought
[1:34:38]
to the attention by a resident.
[1:34:40]
Were brought to our attention
[1:34:43]
by a former commissioner actually.
[1:34:45]
And the red dots are
[1:34:48]
where the no trespassing signs were found on broad view.
[1:34:52]
This is a map of broad view, huh.
[1:34:55]
And we, or
[1:34:59]
after speaking with Bob about this as far as what
[1:35:01]
to do about the no trespassing signs, you know,
[1:35:04]
since we've seen that these, at least these four here
[1:35:09]
are in, are well within the bounds of the property.
[1:35:13]
We should be able to remove them
[1:35:16]
and we can keep them in case the owner
[1:35:18]
of them comes looking for them.
[1:35:20]
But we have sent out two communications so far to the owner
[1:35:25]
of this property right here that is privately owned property
[1:35:29]
with the conservation easement on it.
[1:35:30]
And his name
[1:35:33]
was on the no trespassing signs here.
[1:35:36]
Paul Arba. So I,
[1:35:41]
you all just need to vote to,
[1:35:44]
to have me take the signs down.
[1:35:48]
We would keep the, this one
[1:35:51]
and this one, we would not remove these two since they are
[1:35:55]
right on the, on the boundary line.
[1:35:59]
But this boundary here is actually a stonewall.
[1:36:04]
So it's very clear where the boundary is
[1:36:07]
and it's very clear that these no trespassing signs are
[1:36:11]
well within the bounds of, of the town owned property.
[1:36:17]
So just, just as a heads up,
[1:36:20]
this isn't the first time we've had this
[1:36:23]
issue issue on that property.
[1:36:25]
Yep. So the motion would look,
[1:36:28]
would sound something like authorizing the land manager
[1:36:31]
to remove the signs
[1:36:36]
that are not on the boundary lines,
[1:36:39]
but inside the property into preserve those signs
[1:36:45]
for six months.
[1:36:49]
Something like that.
[1:36:50]
Can I just ask a question? Of course.
[1:36:52]
I was just, just clarification, is that an abutter that is
[1:36:56]
putting up no trespassing sign,
[1:36:58]
but it's actually on the conservation property. So
[1:37:02]
It's allegedly the abutter.
[1:37:03]
We, we we're, we're okay. We don't know,
[1:37:05]
But sometimes these signs appear in places
[1:37:08]
and we don't exactly know.
[1:37:09]
But No, I mean, and,
[1:37:10]
and the, the purpose being that sort of blaming it
[1:37:13]
for a different, just a little confused.
[1:37:17]
So, and just to clarify,
[1:37:18]
because on no trespassing signs, you have to have a, a name
[1:37:22]
and address on the sign.
[1:37:24]
Huh? I don't believe that there's an address,
[1:37:26]
but there is the name Paul Zba.
[1:37:29]
Okay. Is is on that.
[1:37:30]
And that is the owner of this, of this property here.
[1:37:33]
Okay. Thank you.
[1:37:35]
That doesn't mean that Paul Zba put his
[1:37:37]
name on that sign Right.
[1:37:38]
And put the sign up. Sure, sure.
[1:37:40]
But someone put up a sign
[1:37:41]
that says Paul zba on a tree. Sure.
[1:37:43]
Yeah. And also I feel like important context which we had
[1:37:46]
is there's the, the trail that comes up, that's the,
[1:37:49]
it's a really narrow, isn't it just the trail
[1:37:52]
that exists there for access.
[1:37:55]
So it's like basically just the trail to get in, get
[1:37:58]
to broad view and then you're in broad view.
[1:38:00]
But they're Right. The signs along the trail against
[1:38:03]
that property, which is,
[1:38:04]
That was an easement that was granted
[1:38:06]
to us a long time ago. By Mr. Zaba.
[1:38:09]
Yeah. By Mr. Zaba. Yeah. Okay.
[1:38:12]
But I, people should be allowed to walk in there.
[1:38:15]
Just that narrow path.
[1:38:17]
Yeah. So again, we're not, we're not proposing
[1:38:19]
to remove this no trespassing sign Right.
[1:38:22]
Or this one because neither of them seem to be like they're,
[1:38:26]
they're placed in such a way that, you know, it's not trying
[1:38:30]
to keep people out from accessing that trail
[1:38:33]
or getting into broad view.
[1:38:34]
Okay. Is that's very important. It's, it's placed in a way
[1:38:36]
that's trying to prevent people from going into,
[1:38:39]
from the trail here into the field.
[1:38:42]
Right. So as you're walking along,
[1:38:44]
the no trespassing sign is facing into broad view to try
[1:38:49]
to stop people from,
[1:38:51]
from going over the line over to the field.
[1:38:54]
It's not necessarily like discouraging people from
[1:38:57]
coming into broad Exactly.
[1:38:58]
Might the way it's positioned. Correct. Right.
[1:39:00]
It's not sort of an ominous, like no. Okay. 'cause
[1:39:03]
That's really important. So
[1:39:04]
Yeah.
[1:39:06]
So we already have sent letters one letter or two letters.
[1:39:11]
Two letters. Yep. Okay.
[1:39:13]
Alerting him to the fact
[1:39:14]
that we don't believe they're on the property line. Yep.
[1:39:17]
Yeah. With
[1:39:19]
When they're removed, I, I would
[1:39:22]
ask him if he wants the signs back.
[1:39:24]
Okay. So send another letter asking if
[1:39:26]
he would like them back. Yeah.
[1:39:27]
And say they we will, we will hold them
[1:39:29]
for a period of six months. Right. Okay.
[1:39:31]
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:39:33]
So with all this information I'd like to make a motion then
[1:39:36]
to authorize Beth, the land manager
[1:39:38]
to remove those four signs
[1:39:41]
that we have identified within the
[1:39:43]
boundary lines of the property.
[1:39:44]
And to take, I mean, did I just reverse that? No,
[1:39:49]
You did good three. Keep going.
[1:39:50]
Oh, okay. I thought I just said the signs in reverse.
[1:39:52]
I authorized land the land manager
[1:39:54]
to remove the two unauthorized four fudge.
[1:39:58]
I had to write the first time you did
[1:39:59]
to remove the four authorized unauthorized signs,
[1:40:03]
no trespassing signs
[1:40:04]
that are within the boundaries of the property.
[1:40:08]
Sending a notification letter to the possible abutter
[1:40:11]
who may have put the signs up that we would hold the signs
[1:40:13]
for a period of six months for them to retrieve them.
[1:40:17]
That's a great motion. Sorry.
[1:40:19]
Great job down. I
[1:40:21]
Shouldn't have second guessed myself. Second
[1:40:24]
In the middle there.
[1:40:25]
Second that one. Amazing.
[1:40:26]
I think I didn't want a third on that one.
[1:40:28]
That's a, I'll second the first half. That's a good motion.
[1:40:33]
Alright, so we have a first by commissioner Val,
[1:40:37]
second by Commissioner Cheryl.
[1:40:39]
Alls in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions. Unanimous.
[1:40:43]
Nice work. What else you got? What else you got Beth?
[1:40:46]
All right, great. So then we have,
[1:40:49]
oh I gotta find my mouse here.
[1:40:52]
The Margaret Dives conservation land.
[1:40:55]
So the sign there at the trail head was leaning
[1:40:59]
and we reached out to DPW
[1:41:02]
and they very kindly straightened it out for us
[1:41:06]
and they also freshened up the white paint
[1:41:08]
that was making the letters.
[1:41:10]
And so I will,
[1:41:12]
Yeah, I was there recently
[1:41:13]
and it looks good. I can vouch for
[1:41:15]
That and I'll just bring up a visual since I'm here.
[1:41:20]
Yeah, I saw the picture of it. Oh
[1:41:24]
I posted today.
[1:41:25]
Yeah. Woo. So, so that's just a photo of the,
[1:41:30]
the trailhead that is currently in place
[1:41:34]
and that was the post
[1:41:36]
that Linda made tonight about our meeting.
[1:41:40]
And my next visual is I reached out
[1:41:45]
to three different Boy Scout troops
[1:41:50]
in asking if there are any Eagle Scouts
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or you know, Eagle Scout hopefuls who would like
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to assist us with
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creating a new trail head kiosk since this one,
[1:42:03]
as you can see is kind of in rough shape.
[1:42:05]
Yeah. And I sent along this publication to them just
[1:42:09]
to give them an idea of, of what we're looking for.
[1:42:16]
So if you all have a preference
[1:42:20]
of the type of kiosk.
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Right. So here's one that has a cover
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and then they have other,
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and this is I think 2010 money.
[1:42:34]
So twice That, yeah.
[1:42:36]
Fix That. But just to give you an idea, I know
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that they usually help with fundraising for these things.
[1:42:43]
They sometimes idea's
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Donated too. So
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Yeah.
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So they, they have the two designs, one with that has a,
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a cover a, a roof on it
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and then another
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that is more so like this,
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That's what turn It.
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But yeah. So very similar to what's there
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that doesn't have a roof
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or really like a, you know, it would just have the, the name
[1:43:11]
of the, of the land without really much room for,
[1:43:16]
you know, for placing information and whatnot.
[1:43:20]
So if you all have any feedback on that as far as
[1:43:28]
what you would like to communicate to them as far as like
[1:43:31]
what kind of trailhead we would like,
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then you can send that along.
[1:43:39]
Let's, why don't we wait for a reply from them. Sure.
[1:43:42]
And then we'll take that up at the next meeting.
[1:43:44]
I like the ones with the roofs on 'em.
[1:43:46]
I feel like we should, yeah we should probably
[1:43:47]
like broad view look a little better.
[1:43:48]
Angry. Go with those moving forward. Hope
[1:43:51]
I didn't mess anything up.
[1:43:52]
Okay. It's coming back. I think
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Owen's. Owen's coming.
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Okay. Sorry.
[1:44:03]
Okay, so last little bit is,
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so a correspondence.
[1:44:10]
We got a woman
[1:44:12]
who reached out asking if it would be possible
[1:44:15]
to have a sign put up on Hampstead Road warning
[1:44:19]
of Turtles crossing.
[1:44:21]
So right
[1:44:23]
where Cunningham Brook crosses over Hampstead Road.
[1:44:28]
Yeah. She said that she's observed some turtles being run
[1:44:31]
over by vehicles
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and you know, just reached out saying
[1:44:36]
what can we do if there's anything
[1:44:37]
that we can do about that. So,
[1:44:39]
And she helped one And she helped one cross the
[1:44:42]
road and she helped cross her road. Really?
[1:44:44]
Oh awesome. Yeah. And she stopped and helped.
[1:44:46]
That's awesome. Which is, you know what, you're not supposed
[1:44:49]
to touch wildlife but in like that case,
[1:44:51]
if there's a turtle on the road Right.
[1:44:53]
Help it or at least stop your car
[1:44:55]
and let it get across before someone else.
[1:44:56]
But always help the turtle go in the
[1:44:59]
direction it's wanting to go.
[1:45:00]
Like if you find it in the middle of the road
[1:45:03]
and it's heading this way.
[1:45:05]
Yeah. Send 'em that way. Put it over on that side,
[1:45:07]
not don't take it back to the other side.
[1:45:10]
'cause it, it's very important
[1:45:11]
'cause turtles have a pattern every year that they follow
[1:45:15]
going back to where they were originally born. In fact. So
[1:45:19]
Beth, I think you crashed the entire I know.
[1:45:21]
I'm so sorry. I just unplugged it. I'm
[1:45:23]
Like crash municipal center
[1:45:27]
mainframe. I thought
[1:45:28]
I had it.
[1:45:29]
I thought I had it down at this point I'm like okay,
[1:45:31]
plug it in, push the button, I got this. I get it
[1:45:33]
Mean the whole mainframe's now for the state.
[1:45:35]
I think on a lighter, no Beth, if
[1:45:38]
We put crossing signs up, can we get the turtles
[1:45:40]
to use the flashers? Yeah.
[1:45:42]
Because humans, Humans definitely don't.
[1:45:45]
I know, right. Okay. This was a funny discussion.
[1:45:48]
So this, this came through my email, I sent it to Beth
[1:45:51]
and I'm like, I don't even know where to begin.
[1:45:52]
Where do you get fur? First of all,
[1:45:53]
where do you get turtle crossing signs?
[1:45:55]
Second He put 'em up.
[1:45:56]
I've seen them too, but he puts 'em up to town or the state.
[1:45:59]
So I'm curious to hear what you found out.
[1:46:02]
Well we have, I, I haven't found out much besides a name
[1:46:05]
and number of the person who does know.
[1:46:07]
So we're waiting to hear
[1:46:08]
back, waiting to hear from that person.
[1:46:10]
Absolutely. But at least we are in touch
[1:46:11]
with the right person who deals with that kind of stuff.
[1:46:14]
And when I, I did reach out to New Hampshire, DOT was the,
[1:46:18]
the entity to reach out to
[1:46:20]
and they knew exactly where to send me to him.
[1:46:23]
So it sounds like this is not, you know, a question
[1:46:26]
that nobody knows the answer to this is they do,
[1:46:28]
they know what to do, they answer. Yeah.
[1:46:30]
It seems to me from a public outreach standpoint,
[1:46:32]
like you could really kind of talk turtles
[1:46:34]
like at dairy farmer's market at,
[1:46:37]
at these two events we're talking about at Dairy Fest, like,
[1:46:39]
I don't know, like redesigned, put a turtle on a t-shirt,
[1:46:42]
have some kind of turtle activity thing
[1:46:44]
and appeal to like kids with turtles.
[1:46:45]
It's a really popular subject
[1:46:47]
and just kind of raise turtle awareness.
[1:46:49]
So at the very least if like this word of mouth,
[1:46:51]
people are a little more aware
[1:46:53]
and you know, if they see a turtle.
[1:46:55]
'cause it may just be something that's not on people's
[1:46:57]
radars, but it's a really fun
[1:46:59]
and accessible animal creature to raise awareness generally.
[1:47:04]
So that may be something we can discuss.
[1:47:05]
And there is that could be new,
[1:47:06]
could be really fun Turtle rescue
[1:47:07]
Organization.
[1:47:08]
Yeah. And I got a newsletter from them the other day, so,
[1:47:12]
so did I That's important to share.
[1:47:13]
Yeah, like little turtle
[1:47:14]
tchotchkes at the farmer's market.
[1:47:16]
Really. I mean turtle. Turtle.
[1:47:17]
And then they get around and people know what they are
[1:47:19]
and then we, we hide 'em in places
[1:47:20]
and we put 'em on Facebook
[1:47:21]
and it, it would just be a fun like a little campaign there
[1:47:25]
that can just by word of mouth raise awareness
[1:47:27]
and could make a difference. Yep.
[1:47:30]
Huge difference. And I'm sure there's other places
[1:47:31]
that we could identify that probably need a similar sign.
[1:47:33]
So this is a good road to go down. Yeah,
[1:47:36]
Definitely.
[1:47:38]
And the last thing is that there was a GIS tools
[1:47:41]
for identifying wetlands training
[1:47:44]
and I do have a link to the recording for that
[1:47:49]
and the passcode to it.
[1:47:50]
So if anybody would like to watch it, just reach out to me
[1:47:53]
and I can send you the link and the passcode.
[1:47:57]
That is all.
[1:47:59]
Okay. Any questions for Beth?
[1:48:03]
That little a round of applause for Beth. I know, right?
[1:48:06]
Wow. Nice work. Beth.
[1:48:11]
We, I I think there's, there's a mistake here.
[1:48:14]
Are we not meeting June 15th? I feel like we're not. Huh?
[1:48:17]
I don't think we are. We are. Yes
[1:48:18]
We are.
[1:48:19]
Oh we are. Yeah we are.
[1:48:21]
I know. I thought that that was,
[1:48:24]
I thought we had one meeting in
[1:48:25]
June, but I might be wrong.
[1:48:28]
Oh. 'cause I can't do the 15th
[1:48:30]
and I thought you couldn't neither.
[1:48:32]
Is that true? Look,
[1:48:34]
No, that was May, so May 18th we didn't have a meeting.
[1:48:38]
Right. And that was because neither of you could do it.
[1:48:40]
Right. And I do remember thinking when we scheduled two
[1:48:44]
meetings in June, are we only supposed to have one in June?
[1:48:48]
And brought it up and confirmed
[1:48:51]
that there are supposed to be two meetings.
[1:48:52]
Supposed to be two in June. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:48:53]
I think July and August. The only ones we do
[1:48:55]
One.
[1:48:56]
Yes. Wait, can we confirm those dates, dates while we're
[1:48:57]
Here?
[1:48:58]
I can't do the, the 13th one is at if necessary.
[1:49:01]
So we're only gonna meet on July 13th.
[1:49:04]
Oh really? Okay. So
[1:49:06]
If necessary not the sixth, if we have a site plan review.
[1:49:08]
Right. Or we have business necessary that we have to meet,
[1:49:14]
But we're not gonna meet June 15th.
[1:49:16]
The June 15th. Think we have to decide tonight.
[1:49:18]
I am not available June 15th. I am available. So Mr. Mr.
[1:49:22]
Metz wants to have a meeting. We can keep it on the agenda
[1:49:25]
and, and it sounds like he's available
[1:49:26]
so we're gonna keep it on the agenda.
[1:49:28]
Okay. Alright. So June 15th is a yes with Mets. Yep.
[1:49:32]
That we do not have a Owen meeting that night, right?
[1:49:36]
Correct. We do have a Owen meeting on
[1:49:41]
July 13th if we're gonna have the meeting though.
[1:49:44]
Okay. Got it. That so you guys can decide that on the 15th.
[1:49:47]
I might be able to, I might be available
[1:49:48]
via Zoom on the 15th.
[1:49:50]
So I'll try to attend via Zoom as a,
[1:49:54]
as a commissioner though, not as the chair.
[1:49:56]
Don't trust.
[1:49:59]
So I had some stuff with the mission
[1:50:02]
and like guide handbook project
[1:50:04]
and I was hoping I was actively
[1:50:06]
before this meeting, crafting an email to send to
[1:50:09]
everyone for the materials.
[1:50:10]
Should I hold on those until after those if
[1:50:13]
No, let's, let's bring that up on other business.
[1:50:16]
Let's bring it up now in a second. Okay. Yeah.
[1:50:20]
Getting, just, just I want to, I want to whittle down on,
[1:50:24]
on the meeting so everyone has those meetings.
[1:50:26]
The 13th is if necessary
[1:50:28]
and then the rest of them are get 'em.
[1:50:30]
I want everybody to kinda get 'em in their calendar
[1:50:32]
because we only have one meeting
[1:50:34]
and I, I wanna make sure we have people here.
[1:50:36]
So get get those meetings in your calendar please.
[1:50:42]
And then for other business we will start with Val.
[1:50:45]
Okay. Right now. Okay. One second. Let me open it.
[1:50:47]
I wasn't ready for this. I'd had
[1:50:54]
A document with some questions
[1:50:57]
and things kind of just to get some discussions started.
[1:51:00]
I know that I've met
[1:51:01]
with some people individually in the past just to kind
[1:51:04]
of get to know you, your background
[1:51:06]
and some things that kind of pulled
[1:51:07]
you to this line of work.
[1:51:09]
But in the sense of really refining or, you know, drafting
[1:51:14]
and refining and kind of going through these, you know,
[1:51:16]
mission statement, that's something
[1:51:17]
that should be collaborative.
[1:51:18]
So I wanted to make sure that whatever I was doing
[1:51:21]
wasn't just a one-sided thing.
[1:51:23]
You know, this is something that we should all have part in
[1:51:25]
defining as it's something that we all are striving toward.
[1:51:30]
I have this document, I don't,
[1:51:31]
I can't like put it up on the screen or anything.
[1:51:35]
I have some drafts here and then I can send it out.
[1:51:39]
Otherwise I can try putting it up on the screen.
[1:51:42]
Maybe with Owen's help. Yes. Okay.
[1:51:46]
Oh yes, for the win. And
[1:51:49]
I have a conversion 'cause my laptop is a C,
[1:51:52]
Not an A
[1:52:01]
have I don't have an hd, other A No.
[1:52:06]
Dang dang it. We can't put it on the thing. Do
[1:52:09]
You wanna email it to me?
[1:52:10]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[1:52:11]
Yeah.
[1:52:12]
Okay. Sorry everyone that we're like,
[1:52:15]
I wasn't prepared for this.
[1:52:16]
I'm just gonna send this, just talk
[1:52:18]
Amongst yourselves.
[1:52:20]
Beth, ignore the rest of this email
[1:52:21]
since it's already drafted.
[1:52:22]
I'm just sending it to you with the, with the file attached.
[1:52:24]
Okay.
[1:52:33]
Thank you. A lifesaver.
[1:52:35]
Yeah, I'll just put my laptop here so you can, yeah.
[1:52:40]
Okay. Hopefully I don't break it again.
[1:52:41]
Note to self get an HDMI conversion. Yeah.
[1:52:47]
Okay.
[1:53:00]
As well.
[1:53:10]
All right, well disorienting.
[1:53:11]
You gotta like look up there. It's not gonna be on
[1:53:14]
The screen.
[1:53:15]
Yeah, that's right.
[1:53:18]
You can see my self energy.
[1:53:22]
Okay. There we go. Thanks man. Yeah.
[1:53:25]
Okay, so this is just the document
[1:53:27]
that I was planning on sending out to you guys kind of just
[1:53:29]
to create, get some talking points going
[1:53:31]
and getting everyone's different
[1:53:33]
perspectives and thoughts on this.
[1:53:35]
So just some guiding questions while building this.
[1:53:38]
I thought of the purpose, mission, and vision statement.
[1:53:41]
While they all do seem the same
[1:53:42]
and it might be overkill
[1:53:43]
developing them all at the same time.
[1:53:44]
They are all different.
[1:53:46]
And help us define some of the work that we do in the scope
[1:53:49]
of our responsibilities.
[1:53:51]
So some guiding questions for the purpose.
[1:53:53]
Why does the conservation commission exist
[1:53:55]
beyond the responsibilities assigned by RSA 36 A?
[1:54:00]
Just in response to this question, something that came up
[1:54:02]
for me was really that community piece.
[1:54:05]
So a lot of things RSA is really definitive.
[1:54:07]
You know, these are the lands, you protect them, this is
[1:54:09]
how, this is how you manage the funds.
[1:54:11]
That kind of stuff is defined there.
[1:54:13]
But that's something that I kind of thought of that it,
[1:54:15]
you know, is something that we, as a purpose why we exist
[1:54:17]
to engage the community and connect them in nature.
[1:54:20]
You know, some things that were just touched on in our,
[1:54:21]
I naturalists, you know, the
[1:54:22]
purpose for these kinds of events.
[1:54:26]
What is a unique, what unique role does the Conservation
[1:54:29]
Commission play within the town of dairy?
[1:54:31]
I'm just gonna blast through these.
[1:54:33]
If the concert conservation commission did not exist,
[1:54:36]
what would the town lose?
[1:54:37]
And I personally thought that
[1:54:38]
that was a, would be quite a lot.
[1:54:42]
Some more things including, you know, some central things
[1:54:45]
for the mission statement.
[1:54:46]
Again, these were all just questions
[1:54:48]
that I'd been asking myself leading up to this.
[1:54:50]
And it kind of got me to these three statements here.
[1:54:55]
The purpose literally just describing our purpose
[1:54:57]
as authorized under RSA 36 A.
[1:55:00]
The Conservation Commission exists to ensure
[1:55:02]
that dairy's natural resources
[1:55:04]
and open spaces are not only protected today,
[1:55:06]
but stewarded understood
[1:55:08]
and strengthened for the benefit of future generations.
[1:55:11]
That's pretty, pretty straightforward.
[1:55:12]
And you know, the RSA and a little bit expanded on mission
[1:55:17]
and vision is where I kind of started building off of
[1:55:20]
the Dairy Conservation Commission promotes the identity
[1:55:23]
resilience and environmental health of the community
[1:55:26]
through the protection of, through the protection,
[1:55:29]
stewardship, and expansion of open spaces, natural resources
[1:55:34]
and conservation lands supported by education, advocacy,
[1:55:38]
and community collaboration.
[1:55:41]
So that's kind of, you know, what we do,
[1:55:43]
what we're striving towards, these are the things that kind
[1:55:45]
of, we put all together that we all bring to the table.
[1:55:48]
Each piece of us, you know, kind of builds on this mission.
[1:55:52]
And the vision's a little bit different from that.
[1:55:54]
A little bit more loosey goosey, a vision,
[1:55:55]
a dream of what we would like.
[1:55:57]
So our vision is dairy will be a community
[1:55:59]
with a lasting legacy of conservation where forests,
[1:56:03]
wetlands, waterways, wildlife habitats
[1:56:05]
and open spaces are recognized as essential
[1:56:08]
to the town's character, environmental,
[1:56:10]
health and quality of life.
[1:56:12]
Through informed stewardship, community engagement,
[1:56:15]
and long-term commitment to conservation.
[1:56:17]
These resources will remain protected, resilient,
[1:56:20]
and valued by future generations.
[1:56:24]
So these were kind of the statements that I kind
[1:56:26]
of drafted up from those questions
[1:56:27]
and kind of from some of these themes, I kind
[1:56:30]
of pulled these, I did a little ethnography on some of our
[1:56:33]
conversations and these were some themes that I kind
[1:56:36]
of pulled from and wanted to make sure
[1:56:38]
that they were addressed
[1:56:39]
or mentioned in some way of, in these statements.
[1:56:44]
But this is definitely something that I would love
[1:56:47]
that we all need to collaborate on
[1:56:49]
and make sure that, you know, we all align
[1:56:50]
with these statements as a commission.
[1:56:53]
You know, I know Rick was saying if we were gonna do this,
[1:56:55]
we wanted to keep it short and sweet
[1:56:56]
and I feel like some of these were
[1:56:58]
maybe have been a mouthful.
[1:56:59]
No, that's something I was thinking of.
[1:57:01]
No, I think they're good. I think good next steps would be
[1:57:03]
get get it out to the commissioners and Yeah.
[1:57:06]
Solicit feedback. Yeah.
[1:57:07]
And we'll, we'll whittle it down
[1:57:09]
and maybe tweak it a little bit.
[1:57:10]
Yeah. That way we can give some thoughtful input.
[1:57:12]
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
[1:57:13]
But it looks good. Good start. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:57:14]
So I'll get this sent.
[1:57:15]
I know Beth already has the whole email,
[1:57:17]
but I'll get it sent out.
[1:57:18]
That way everyone can read it over and stuff.
[1:57:20]
And along with this, I have been working on, especially
[1:57:24]
with some of our new conservation commissioners, I mean,
[1:57:27]
it was a resource I had started when I had joined was kind
[1:57:30]
of like a guidebook to accompany the N-H-A-C-C guidebook.
[1:57:33]
Something that was a little bit more specific toward dairy,
[1:57:35]
our processes, our specific subcommittees
[1:57:37]
and things as they differ between towns.
[1:57:40]
And I was hoping to send out, you know,
[1:57:42]
it's a larger thing than this of course, so I couldn't go
[1:57:45]
through it now, but send it out to you guys,
[1:57:46]
get some experience from,
[1:57:48]
get some input from experience commissioners.
[1:57:50]
People have been doing this for some time, some
[1:57:52]
of our new commissioners.
[1:57:54]
I know that there's a lot to come in on this
[1:57:56]
and if you've had questions this time
[1:57:58]
and hopefully this guidebook can answer them
[1:57:59]
and if you still have questions it would be
[1:58:02]
great to pass them along.
[1:58:03]
But that's another resource I
[1:58:04]
kind of wanted to send out with this.
[1:58:05]
'cause they kind of go hand in hand.
[1:58:07]
But yeah, just some food for thought
[1:58:08]
until our next meeting. Yeah,
[1:58:11]
Good.
[1:58:12]
So yeah. Yeah. We'll you'll get some feedback I'm sure.
[1:58:14]
Yeah, I'll have this sent out today.
[1:58:15]
And really, val, I admire your passion about it.
[1:58:17]
It really is. It's admirable.
[1:58:18]
It's great. It's fantastic. Step back
[1:58:20]
A minute. I know I started this
[1:58:21]
Last year, but, okay.
[1:58:23]
Alright.
[1:58:25]
I don't wanna break it. I just press the button
[1:58:27]
and unplug it or press
[1:58:30]
The button.
[1:58:31]
Don't, just don't let Beth touch it. Unplug it.
[1:58:34]
Wait, not, let, not that serious.
[1:58:38]
Second my
[1:58:39]
Dad and my science project all over again.
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Keep that away. State police are like how come, how come?
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Nothing's working.
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Whoops. Alright. Any other, any more other business
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before we go into non-public?
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And just a heads up, we are at 8 58
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and we're supposed to adjourn at nine, so,
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Sorry, I didn't mean to add
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that I have something to each other.
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Yes, Eileen, go ahead. I wanna ask Rick Metz if he, if he,
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if when you were on the TRC
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did anything get presented in regards to, you know,
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the Lane Road project?
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You know how we only got to see the houses that were along
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actually on Island Pond Road, the
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Ones that are being built Now.
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There's some being built now that are on the lane road side
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that weren't on that plan.
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And I'm concerned because I, well I do see a a,
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it's like a rolled mulch barrier
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along the wetlands edge on the lane roads way far down.
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But there's an awful lot of like
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material getting moved out there. And so yeah,
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I haven't, I haven't seen in the last week
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or so, I did go by there
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and saw where they, where they were working on Island Pond.
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Yeah. And they're not encroaching real close
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to the water. I haven't looked around
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The corner.
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Well, there's disturbed soil that goes right up to the edge.
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So I'm really kind of
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Wonder that would be something wondering if that
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before Code enforcement done
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That, that didn't come before you at TRC.
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It it did, but we, we discussed it here.
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Well, not, not those particular lots.
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We only saw the ones along Island Pond Road
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that were way up high.
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We didn't see the ones on Lane Road.
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There weren't any lots on Lane Road to my knowledge.
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No, there are. Okay.
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Well, concern that's something for,
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that's something from the billing,
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billing inspector and code enforcement. Okay. So,
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So the lane road ones, if they were, if they were,
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if they met all of the,
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what we call a plan a lot,
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meaning it had it had sufficient setbacks,
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road frontage area, area, it would not,
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it would've not have come before us.
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But they pushed soil right up to the, and I don't,
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I'm Not saying that they didn't, if it incurred, some
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of it may have incurred into the wetland.
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I don't know. It's hard to tell from the road. But
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Yeah, I'm not saying that they didn't do that.
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I'm saying that it's a concern that we wouldn't,
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we wouldn't have seen the plan if it wasn't,
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if it wasn't like applied to push the,
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push the stuff into the well.
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And so you should reach out to Bob. Okay,
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I will.
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Yeah.
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Oh, Bob's no longer there. It's a Or
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Carrie. Yeah,
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Sorry Carrie.
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I'll reach out to her. I just wanted to know if
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It has been instinct, instinct for Bob.
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She's, she's pretty responsive too. Yeah. Right.
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Yeah. And she has to respond so
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that, that's how that works.
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If you, if you call, there's a ticket,
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there's a ticket written and the ticket has to be executed.
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So Okay. Can
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Call and I'll take a drive by tomorrow and Okay.
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See what it looks like.
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Anything else for other business
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before we go into non-public?
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Non-public is not gonna be, I don't know
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how long this PowerPoint is,
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but it's, I have a couple of things to talk about.
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We're not gonna have any action tonight.
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More just an information. I have a couple.
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I have a couple to, yeah, you have to come up.
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State your name for the record.
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Actually, you know, what is it?
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Because this isn't a public hearing, we need to, we need to,
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we need to vote to allow this.
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Right. All right, so, oh, I need a motion to allow
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gentlemen from the, from the
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move audience move. Move audience move
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To allow three minute public input.
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Okay. So the Mr. Metz has made a motion.
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Is there a second? I'll second that motion. Second by lien.
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All is in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?
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Abstentions. Hearing none.
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Just state your name and
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where you're from for the record, please.
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David Aventure, 26 Milton Moore Road. Hi y'all.
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Y'all know me at this point.
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I've been coming to these meetings for a couple months now.
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Unfortunately, I'm triple booked for the day
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of the bio blitz, so I will not be able to make it
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as I had planned to.
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I have other higher priority items that I have to get to.
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However, learning today that it's a 24 hour event,
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I might try to make it after my other obligations. Yeah,
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It's cool, right? You can go late.
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So, yeah. So I look forward
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to seeing you all again on the
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15th is when the next meeting is.
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Yep. And other than that,
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have a nice night. Alright, thanks.
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Thank you David. Thanks for your, thank you. Thanks.
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Thanks for coming. Thanks David. Okay, if we're done,
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I'll let the take a motion to go into, into non-public
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and we are gonna invite Owen into our non-public
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'cause he's gonna man the PowerPoint presentation.
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Beth, do you wanna join or do you wanna leave? I can join.
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Okay. So we're gonna have to, after,
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after we vote one,
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then we're gonna have to vote two more times.
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Move, move the vote, move
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to go into non-public session per RSA 91, A three.
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Section two for the purpose of land acquisition.
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Second. So we have a first on the floor
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to go into nonpublic.
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A second. We need a roll call starting to my right?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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yes, yes. The chair votes. Yes.
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And I move to invite Beth Carn Owen
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prevention into the non-public.
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Is there a second? Second first and a second.
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Roll call vote. Starting to my right?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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That's unanimous. Okay.
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So we are going in
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and nonpublic once we get a thumbs up from
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dairy cam, almost a thumbs up.
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Is that a thought.