[0:23] Everybody had a chance to review the minutes from the last meeting.

[0:30] Motion to approve. Second.

[0:33] Made by Commissioner Marsh. Second by Commissioner Pelton to approve the

[0:35] minutes from the last meeting. Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing

[0:41] none. All in favor say I. I.

[0:42] I. All opposed. Motion carried. And on to

[0:46] the agenda. Commissioner Marsh. No.

[0:49] Mr. Pelton. No.

[0:52] I have no additions. Entertain a motion for approval of the agenda as presented.

[0:59] Motion to approve. Motion made by Commissioner Marsh,

[1:02] seconded by Commissioner Pelton to approve the agenda as presented. Is

[1:06] there any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor say I.

[1:10] I. I.........................................

[1:11] All. Opposed. Motion carried. Okay. Before we turn it over to the road

[1:16] department, we need to do the oath of office for the auditor. Since she was an

[1:20] intern. She needs to take office immediately.

[1:27] Could you speak please? Sally Whan. do solemnly swear that I

[1:32] will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of

[1:35] the State of North Dakota and faithfully discharge the duties of the office of

[1:40] auditor treasurer of the county of Dunn and the state of North Dakota to the

[1:44] best of my ability. So, help me.

[1:50] Congratulations. Okay, now we'll turn it over to Terry

[1:54] with the road department.

[1:59] I guess we're finishing up graveling right now and depending on weather we

[2:03] might start hauling a little skoria mowing. They got about one day left

[2:10] and I guess I don't know the other thing I wanted to bring up is the 103rd Avenue

[2:16] on the east side of Kilder there. The pavement's marked at 35 and the city was

[2:21] talking maybe we could go to 45 on that. So, I guess I don't know if you guys

[2:25] want to entertain a motion to do that pending the city's results.

[2:31] I think that's a good idea. I move that we follow whatever the city

[2:35] sets for a speed limit on 103rd off of 200.

[2:40] Is there a second? Second.

[2:41] Motion made by Commissioner Pelton, second by Commissioner Marsh to set the

[2:45] speed limit on 103rd uh following uh the city's recommendation.

[2:51] Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor say I.

[2:55] I. All opposed. Motion carried.

[3:00] I guess we can move on to the engineers.

[3:10] Morning. Morning. Should be fairly brief for you

[3:14] guys today. um

[3:20] uh the 86th Avenue and 82nd Avenue projects uh kind of in the same well I

[3:26] guess they're not really in similar conditions at 86th Avenue we're we're

[3:30] trying to work with Shipo to uh see what we have for an avenue going forward. Uh

[3:35] 92nd Avenue um that is planned for 2025

[3:39] construction. We do have the permit for that project. We're currently working on

[3:42] easements uh for that roadway. So, we just need to

[3:47] get those wrapped up this winter and out for bid. Uh 100th Avenue uh permit has

[3:53] been secured on that. We do I do have a few meetings set up to finalize the

[3:56] easements over the next couple weeks. Uh do expect to have this wrapped up soon

[4:00] as well. Planning for 2025 construction. Uh I started putting together

[4:06] advertising for uh December meeting potentially uh depending on how these

[4:11] last uh easement meetings go with land owners.

[4:15] Uh 12th Street and 16th Street, the grading designs are are pretty much

[4:20] complete on those. We do have a couple cultural sites that we're working around

[4:25] uh on those as well. So that'll be another topic of discussion with shipo

[4:31] and I can get a sit down with them. Uh we have been we'll start working on

[4:38] those easements as well as we progress through that.

[4:42] Any questions so far on the 2025 projects uh 20th Street,

[4:49] 86th and 9th and 98th Avenue. We uh did get all the field surveys done this

[4:54] summer including the cultural and wetland. We are working through the

[4:58] grading designs on all those projects and made some good progress so far. Um

[5:02] we're going to begin evaluating our disturbances and impacts to

[5:06] environmental and cultural sites. Any question on any of the design

[5:11] projects

[5:14] the construction golf course road project uh that work has all been

[5:19] completed. We did do a final inspection back in on October 24th. Uh the fencing

[5:25] work has begun on the project. They are working on the north side of the road

[5:29] early this week. Um with the weather, they've they've held off now the last

[5:34] couple days. Uh they intend to finish this year, but that'll all depend on the

[5:39] weather if they can get the fencing done. Um and they're working through

[5:43] that with the land owners. So, no surprises there.

[5:48] Uh the final estimate is out in the contractor's hands still currently. So,

[5:52] uh, they're waiting on, um, uh, some review from their subcontractors on

[5:58] their work. So, they did not get that back to us in time to get on this

[6:01] meeting, but he assured me that he would have it, uh, approved prior to the next

[6:05] meeting so we can get that final payment made and close out that project. So,

[6:12] uh, there's about $150,000 remaining, which is mostly just retainage. So,

[6:18] any questions on that?

[6:23] Thank you. Thank you very much.

[6:36] Morning. I also have some brief updates for

[6:40] everyone.

[6:44] Can begin with Second Street Northwest and 84th Avenue Northwest. So we

[6:49] conducted a final inspection on 11124. We had members of Greytech Barland West

[6:55] and Dun County road department and road portfolio holder of the commission

[7:00] project was generally accepted. We did come up with some punch list items that

[7:04] were relatively minor. Had some rock picking and some additional seating etc.

[7:09] Um, with that said, we've compiled a semifinal pay request number 10 and

[7:14] recommend payment in the amount of $588,43368.

[7:20] We are still holding 2% retainage until completion of the punch list items.

[7:28] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I move that we pay uh the estimate number 10 on the second

[7:35] 84th amount of 588,433.68

[7:39] to Greytech. Is there a second?

[7:42] Second. Motion made by Commissioner Pelton, second by Commissioner Marsh to

[7:46] approve pay request number 10 in the amount of 588,433

[7:53] and68 to Grey Tech Construction on Second

[7:56] Street Northwest and 84th Avenue Northwest. Any discussion?

[8:01] Any discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote.

[8:03] Commissioner Marsh, yes.

[8:05] Commissioner Dall, yes.

[8:06] Commissioner Pilton, yes. Commissioner Boer,

[8:08] yes. And Mr. Chairman, you do have those in

[8:13] your what I on. So the 2024 projects

[8:19] 117th Avenue Southwest is complete and off the list. 14th Street Southwest, we

[8:24] had a pre-construction meeting on that same day, 11124 with Schwarz. Um there

[8:30] was a tragedy out there. The foreman of their box sculver crew passed on a

[8:35] different job that week. So it's kind of left them strategizing and reorganizing

[8:39] for the installation of this box. If you guys recall, they wanted to get that box

[8:43] covered in here. I'm not sure what this weather's going to do, but that is still

[8:46] the plan and we still have proceeded accordingly. Uh we've st temporary

[8:50] fencing out there and working with land owners and the fencer. It's brown

[8:54] fencing and we're proceeding as they're still going to attempt to install the

[8:57] box this year, but uh we haven't heard differently, but again that that passing

[9:01] of their box cover for this kind of let them scramble to figure out how they're

[9:05] going to get it done. Um, next item on 119th Avenue Southwest.

[9:11] Uh, we collected right away a while ago. That's all been filed. U, we've been

[9:16] waiting for responses on utilities out there. Right now, we're down to McKenzie

[9:20] Electric Consolidated and and Marathon. Vince was here. McKenzie last commission

[9:26] meeting getting permits. I asked him again about that and thought we were

[9:30] going to get something. I still have not gotten anything. consolidated said that

[9:35] um they were supposed to they're really busy right now and as soon as snow snow

[9:39] flies or they get freeze up they can address it thinking maybe that'll be

[9:43] today um or at least get the process started but they just haven't been very

[9:48] responsive any of these three remaining we're pushing to hear back from them

[9:53] we've got plans ready to go but it doesn't really pay to to bid this thing

[9:56] until they actually give us their input in case any redesign is required but uh

[10:01] once we get that we want advertising this thing. So, any questions on 119th?

[10:08] Okay. Last but not certainly least, 99th Avenue Southwest. So, we're about 90%

[10:14] complete on those plans and we've been struggling with cultural items out

[10:17] there. Um, so the DOT also has a major project on Highway 200 and struggled

[10:23] with the same items, culturally sensitive items and mainly tribal

[10:27] culturally sensitive items, but they had to come up with and they were on hold.

[10:31] We just talked with some here the other week. Um, basically any of those

[10:36] culturally sensitive areas, they were allowed to just put fill dirt on top of

[10:39] it and not do any excavation. That may be a way to proceed with that in order

[10:44] to get clearance or to get cultural to sign off on that. I've got some

[10:48] preliminary plans if anybody's interested. And I kind of started

[10:50] discussions with the road department yesterday about it. The only downside is

[10:55] it require requires borrow because we have balanced design that they're not

[11:00] signing off on or having given us go ahead. So that would that would mean

[11:03] having a borrow source and then putting borrowed dirt on top of any of the

[11:06] culturally sold sensitive areas and that's what the DOT has done. But we'll

[11:10] have more discussions with the road department and see if that's the way you

[11:13] want to see questions.

[11:18] Okay, moving along. Uh for Manning, we're still navigating through the

[11:22] easement process with Southwest. I think we're going to get somewhere on

[11:26] that. Um that means Terry has to bring donuts

[11:31] next meeting. Good.

[11:34] So, uh we've got we're trying to get schedule some more meetings with

[11:37] Southwest representatives. There's been some holdups on their end, but uh once

[11:42] we navigate through that, I think it should should go pretty quick. Um,

[11:47] moving on to our 2025 projects, uh, both Seventh Street project and Third Street

[11:52] projects. Same update on all those. Everything is moving forward and

[11:56] progressing with with no major hiccups yet to this point. Trying to get to a

[11:59] point where we can start collecting right away out there. So,

[12:02] any questions on anything? All right. Thank you all. Thank you.

[12:20] Mr. Chairman, commissioners, good morning.

[12:22] Good morning. Like to start off with our construction

[12:26] project. Uh final walkthrough took place on

[12:30] Thursday, November 14th. We are awaiting confirmation from the

[12:34] contractor on erosion control items and we'll have the final estimate prepared

[12:38] for the December 4th commission meeting. They actually got back to me this

[12:41] morning and said that everything was good. So, we'll be good to go in two

[12:45] weeks. Any questions on that one?

[12:50] It looks good. Thanks. I think so. Contractor was

[12:55] great.

[12:59] 109th. Uh, little movement. Easing documents are currently in review by the

[13:04] two major businesses on the route. We did receive an access agreement template

[13:08] from one of those businesses which is in review.

[13:12] Once they comply, we'll revisit the residents

[13:16] uh pushing our targeted bid date of December 18th, two months to February

[13:21] 19th, 2025 in hopes that we can continue good communication.

[13:29] On 27th, we're told that the deed of the one

[13:34] remaining property is now split and we're just days away from being able to

[13:37] confirm that and they get it all recorded. Both parties are in favor of

[13:42] the project. Core approval should also be only days

[13:46] away. However, if it's not received within the next week, we'll be forced to

[13:50] push our bid date from December 18th into the new year.

[13:55] Any questions on those two?

[13:59] Okay, on to 82nd South. Finishing touches are taking place on plan

[14:03] production. Temp easement descriptions are being finalized with some minor

[14:07] revisions. We had to adjust some approaches, so we have to adjust our

[14:11] temp easement. We have submitted the core, been working with them on review.

[14:16] Bid opening is still currently targeted for February 5th.

[14:22] And north segment corridor design continues for this

[14:26] project. designers are sizing pipe, placing approaches and working on

[14:30] wetland mitigation. We have targeted a core application

[14:35] submitt date of November 27th with a bid date of March 19th.

[14:42] Any questions on any second or anything else?

[14:46] Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Jim.

[14:52] Morning

[15:00] commissioners. Good morning.

[15:03] Got a couple uh final estimates to present.

[15:09] Um starting with Seventh Street uh being built by Martin Construction. We have uh

[15:16] prepared pay estimate number 17. It's the final pay estimate.

[15:22] Um the amount is $21,768

[15:26] which we would recommend uh payment to Martin Construction for that project.

[15:32] Mr. Chairman, I move that we uh pay pay estimate number 77

[15:40] to Martin Construction in the amount of 21,768.

[15:45] There a second. Second motion made by Commissioner Daldo,

[15:48] second by Commissioner Marsh to approve pay estimate number 17 and amount of

[15:53] 21,768 to Martin Construction on 7th Street

[15:58] Southwest. Any discussion? Discussion hearing.

[16:02] Commissioner Marsh, yes.

[16:04] Commissioner Doz, yes.

[16:05] Commissioner Pelton, Commissioner

[16:07] yes. Motion carried. Uh, next payment we have is for 110th

[16:13] Avenue. It is also the final payment. This one is number seven. Uh the amount

[16:19] is $25,6468

[16:23] which would be payable to Jensen Brothers Construction.

[16:30] Mr. Chairman, I move that we pay pay estimate number seven on 110th Avenue in

[16:35] the amount of $25,6468

[16:40] to Jensen Brothers Construction. Is there a second?

[16:44] Second. Motion made by Commissioner Pelton,

[16:46] second by Commissioner Dozel to approve uh pay estimate number seven in the

[16:51] amount of $25,6468

[16:55] to Jensen Brothers Construction on 110th Avenue. Is there any discussion? Any

[17:01] discussion hearing? None. Roll call vote.

[17:03] Commissioner Marsh? Yes. Commissioner Doz?

[17:05] Yes. Commissioner Pelton? Yes. Commissioner

[17:07] Yes. Motion carried. So, the other project that's uh under

[17:12] active construction, the construction's complete, but we'll still have to uh

[17:17] have one more pass for 114th Avenue. That'll be presented at at next meeting.

[17:22] We're still resolving some quantities, but the construction's done and it's

[17:26] been approved. We just need to final the quantities, but that'll be done at the

[17:30] next meeting. Um, same with the seal coat. The project's done. We're just

[17:34] working with the DOT on their final documents. As far as design projects,

[17:38] I'll kind of lump them together. We're getting easements and core permits. Um

[17:43] this week, I think we got um so far this week, I think we got seven parcels

[17:48] signed up on different projects and three or four more parcels pending. So,

[17:53] I think we're making pretty good progress on easements. There's always

[17:57] going to be um some that are a little more difficult than others, but so far

[18:01] it's it's going fairly well um on the different projects. So, um I think at

[18:07] the next meeting I'll try to assign some target dates for um bid opening times or

[18:14] dates, but right now we're just a little uncertain on some of these core permits,

[18:19] but I think by next meeting we'll sign some target dates for bid opening dates.

[18:25] Any questions on anything? Thank you very much.

[18:30] Okay, thanks

[18:34] Jerry. Do we have utility permits? No, there's no utility permits this

[18:38] time.

[18:43] And that's it with the road. No. Okay. Thank you. Sally, do you want to

[18:47] kind of go through the list here of an election update first?

[18:50] Sure. I just wanted to give you an update on election. We did have our

[18:53] canvas board on Monday. Um they did um confirm the election and certify. So

[18:59] those um official election results are on our website and they will be posted

[19:04] in next Wednesday's paper. Got that taken care of. Um all the um

[19:10] postelection audits have been done and we are balanced. So I just want to give

[19:14] everybody an update on that. Um the first commission meeting in

[19:20] January and I just wanted to let you guys know

[19:22] that um the 1 of January is Wednesday. So, I just wanted you guys to be

[19:27] thinking about um the the first meeting since we're closed that day. Um, of

[19:32] course, we don't have to make any decisions today, but it'll have to be

[19:35] either after um Thursday or Friday or it'll have to be the following Monday

[19:40] that we do that first commission meeting of the year. So, just keep that in mind.

[19:46] We might as well decide now. Um, you think Thursday, the date next day?

[19:51] It's fine with me. Second a motion to do that.

[19:56] Probably. I move that we switch the first meeting

[20:01] in January to January 2nd 9:00 a.m. There. Second.

[20:05] Second. Motion made by Commissioner Pelton,

[20:08] second by Commissioner Dozel to uh move the January 1st meeting to January 2nd

[20:14] at 9:00 a.m. Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing hearing? None. All

[20:20] in favor say I. I. All opposed. Motion carried.

[20:27] We want to the extension office statements.

[20:36] Okay. So, in the past years, we have given the two extension agents a stipend

[20:42] to bring their um salaries up to what they would be if

[20:48] they were a Dun County employee. This is a practice done by most counties um with

[20:54] extension agents. So, um I I we don't have any numbers yet. Um Jim Gray just

[21:00] contacted me and asked me if we um would like to continue that throughout 2025

[21:09] and then we will have some numbers to to approve

[21:14] maybe. So, we don't have numbers. It's like a consensus that or do you want a

[21:18] motion? So Jim is asking that if we're going to

[21:23] continue, right, if we're going to continue to

[21:25] give um Chris and Kirsten stipens, but we don't know the numbers.

[21:30] We do not know the numbers. He wanted to know get the consensus first if you guys

[21:34] wanted to do it and then he will come up with the final numbers.

[21:37] Yeah, I I think so. I mean, I agree.

[21:43] And then we would we would just enter into theou and approve that.

[21:47] Yes. Correct. What are everybody else's thoughts?

[21:51] I'm fine. Yeah, we're going to need to continue.

[21:54] Okay, I agree.

[22:00] Um Will, is it too early or are you ready?

[22:04] Okay.

[22:22] Thank you.

[22:37] Good morning. Good morning.

[22:39] Morning. All right, Mr. Chairman and Commission.

[22:42] Um, I apologize in advance if this kind of doesn't make sense or if it

[22:50] needs clarification. I tried my best to kind of explain what I'm I'm here

[22:55] proposing and why I'm proposing it. Um, we've talked throughout the year about a

[23:01] possible restructure in my building and grounds department. Um this is kind of a

[23:08] generalized uh direction and basically how I'll start this is by saying the

[23:16] building of grounds over the past 8 to 10 years has seen exponential

[23:22] growth and demand in what its scope of work has been. So obviously it was a

[23:29] department of one and now it's a department of four and we are looking to

[23:34] have a clear structure moving forward. Um and

[23:40] it's basically growing pains of a growing department and this is my uh

[23:47] proposal to move forward with a clear hierarchy of how this uh department

[23:53] could be structured based on your approval. So, uh, backing up just a bit,

[23:59] uh, one of the roles that and responsibilities that has kind of come

[24:04] to the forefront, um, that that that isn't traditionally something that we

[24:09] would do in the building and grounds is handling park board park business. Um

[24:16] it's it's something that the park board and I as as um a park board member have

[24:24] discussed and we came up with the conclusion that it wouldn't it would be

[24:28] a good move if I resigned from the park board and became more of a um director

[24:35] of parks. That's the recommendation of the park board to move forward. Um, I

[24:40] would still be the building and ground supervisor, but we're looking to house

[24:46] the administrative work, the work that is done with the different agencies that

[24:51] handle um park board business, the US Army Corps of Engineers, the US

[24:57] Fish and Wildlife, a liaison, and somebody to handle meeting minutes, uh,

[25:03] agenda, that kind of thing, handle the administrative work that was being

[25:08] handled. by a separate department prior to now and that's kind of not in their

[25:14] scope of work anymore. So there is a need for that. That's the first thing.

[25:17] Um the second thing is um there's always been a need where we're currently

[25:26] staffed completely busy. Our current um group of people that are working in

[25:33] my department are are are busy. And if anybody is gone in that current

[25:38] structure, it makes it very difficult and it's a quite a strain. Um, so

[25:43] basically to come back to the proposal and what I handed out, the current

[25:48] structure is obviously building and grounds and then I dictate and oversee

[25:53] the department as a whole. Okay, so there's two janitorial workers and a

[25:57] maintenance assistant currently that are full-time. Um, I kind of go through some

[26:03] of the important points on this. um you know basically there's issues if you

[26:08] look at this hierarchy in the current structure with if I'm gone or if um one

[26:14] of the other people are gone it really does impact what we're able to

[26:18] accomplish as a department. So in the proposed hierarchy

[26:23] what I'm what I'm proposing and one of the requests that was made is that I

[26:27] come up with a kind of generalized what would my department look like if we were

[26:31] to restructure it. So currently um my plan for a a hierarchy is to have two

[26:38] separate groups janitorial and maintenance and have a lead in each of

[26:44] those almost a supervisory role where they take over certain aspects of the

[26:51] building grounds department with maintenance and janitorial and I still

[26:55] supervise but also act as park director to fill in for some of those um needs

[27:01] from the park department. My ultimate goal is to continue to grow the park

[27:05] department and I think if that is going to be part of the the goals moving

[27:11] forward, there needs to be a clear person in charge of that area. So that's

[27:18] those are some of the key things that I wanted to point out. Um I do have some

[27:22] budget impacts for the new proposal. Um it will increase department payroll. Um,

[27:29] that was, you know, and and I do want to back up too. This is something that I've

[27:33] had in the works for a while, but we've all kind of had to wait and see what the

[27:38] election results were going to be before I came to you and proposed something

[27:41] that would may may require, you know, um, changing of the budget and I didn't

[27:47] want to do that with the election and possible changing of things in general.

[27:53] Um, so um, increased department payroll. um there would be an increase in hourly

[28:01] uh wage based on the janitorial lead and maintenance lead moving up into a higher

[28:06] pay scale. I met with Desessie um and if it means anything to you A13 and B21

[28:12] would be where those new positions would land on the uh pay scale. Okay, so I

[28:20] have done that much. Um, I kind of know where that that falls, but I haven't

[28:24] haven't put any actual hard numbers because I wanted to discuss this with

[28:29] you, see if this was something that the commission would be in favor of. Um,

[28:34] also, uh, hiring an additional full-time maintenance tech to assist the

[28:39] maintenance lead would be my recommendation. Um and then uh giving uh

[28:45] the maintenance lead authority to take home a county vehicle similar to what I

[28:49] have authority to do. Um just in the off chance that if they're going to be the

[28:55] maintenance tech lead that they would have the ability to in the case of an

[28:59] emergency or whatever go from home to uh wherever needs uh any sort of addressing

[29:06] on the maintenance side of things. Um so goals is to really provide continued

[29:11] excellence uh in my department to the county uh improve as a team uh grow the

[29:17] parks department um have clear defined goals and responsibilities in my

[29:21] department um allow more time for continued education and to retain our

[29:27] current employees. Um,

[29:30] then I go kind of go through and it it's it's clear. I don't need to go through

[29:34] every point. Um, unless there are questions. Um, but we've got 11

[29:38] properties that we take care of. Um, I have them all listed out there. Um, some

[29:43] are more than others. Obviously, the courthouse is is obviously more of a

[29:48] higher responsibility than say like the the new addatic trailer that we end up

[29:53] taking care of from time to time. So, it it's I guess it's all relative, but um I

[29:58] kind of go through some generalized responsibilities for each of the new

[30:04] areas and that really encompasses what I'm proposing. Um I don't know how to go

[30:12] about a motion if you guys are wanting to move forward with a decision like

[30:18] this, but I'm open to questions and I hope it all makes clear sense. Any

[30:24] questions?

[30:29] How many more people are you looking at adding right now?

[30:32] Just just one. Just one. Uh one full-time um maintenance assistant. And

[30:38] we had kind of talked about that in my budget. I actually proposed this for a

[30:43] possible full-time or part-time person. Um, so it has been approved in my

[30:48] budget, but um, I wanted to give you a clear

[30:54] um, outline of what my goals are and what my thoughts are with the department

[30:59] without getting into real real specifics. I wanted to to kind of show

[31:05] you what my thoughts were as best I could on paper. And if they if they

[31:08] don't make sense, I apologize. So So the janitorial lead and maintenance

[31:13] lead that would be going to a different p uh on the pay scale.

[31:18] Yes. They would basically what I'm looking to do is

[31:21] on your on your sheet is that your janitorial worker or the department

[31:28] which sheet are you looking at? Nothing.

[31:33] And like I said, I'm sorry. So So the bottom two people on the list

[31:39] would go higher in the pay scale. No. No.

[31:42] Second. No. the the the the leads would would

[31:46] end up becoming more of a supervisory role.

[31:50] And and what I'm really looking to do is give the maintenance and the janitorial

[31:55] a a point of contact besides myself,

[32:01] right? Um if there's something wrong with the buildings, will I still be

[32:04] involved? Absolutely. But I'm looking to have more than one person as a point of

[32:09] contact so that if in the case that I or who whoever is gone, it it provides more

[32:18] than one person to be able to handle the work that needs to be done. It also

[32:22] really improves our secession plan um by spreading the supervisory

[32:29] um role a little bit besides just myself.

[32:34] I think it it it definitely gives more people some power to make decisions in

[32:38] the case of people being absent.

[32:43] Any other questions? Mr. Chairman, well, thanks for putting

[32:48] all this together. Very good job.

[32:51] um part of the the lead maintenance tech. Are we talking

[32:56] besides the title tech? We're talking tech as far as it helping with that sort

[33:03] of thing. Well, I mean tech was just the work I

[33:06] know. Yeah. It's just a it's just a it's a

[33:08] working title to try and explain the best we could because it you can only

[33:13] have so much like supervisor, director, lead, you know what I mean? So that

[33:17] that's a way of basically giving them a title of ownership. But go ahead.

[33:21] But my question is would that person be able to assist us with the some of the

[33:28] IT things that we we definitely need some help in this building? Well, across

[33:35] the buildings, apartments

[33:37] and that's something that has evolved. I mean in six months ago I will tell you

[33:42] honestly no, that was never part of the deal. But now that we've got a person

[33:46] that's got some experience in that, I definitely see that being

[33:51] housed under our umbrella of department is being able to assist. And it's just

[33:57] it's slowly kind of taken shape. And the that's the other justification for me

[34:05] looking to hire an assistant in maintenance is because if the lead is

[34:12] handling IT stuff and and different um wearing many different hats, that's the

[34:17] that's the the crux of this department is there's many different hats that

[34:21] somebody has to wear and you have to find very good individuals and this is

[34:25] also a way for me to try and retain those individuals that are valuable to

[34:30] the county. So yes, to answer your question, uh, Commissioner Dozal is is

[34:35] it yes, I see that being part of the scope of responsibility.

[34:52] Mr. Chairman, I I I kind of like the proposal he's put

[34:57] forth. I don't know if the rest of you want to, you know,

[35:03] consider it further um or um have Will and Desessie um put together some of the

[35:12] the costs or impacts and bring it back to us at the next meeting.

[35:17] Yeah, I I'm not against it, but I'd like to know more about it and kind of know

[35:22] where the numbers are going to be at that.

[35:26] Yeah, I I I know that there is without getting into specifics,

[35:34] there will be an increase in hourly based on the the what does she call it

[35:39] the DVM or DBM model. So, there are some of those things and I

[35:45] and she gave me those numbers and if we need to flesh out exact numbers, I'm I'm

[35:50] okay with that. Um, I will say that I I I know we're in the midst of a new year.

[35:56] I know we're in the midst of a different commission taken. I the reason I'm here,

[36:01] I would have been here the day after the election, but I felt like that was too

[36:04] soon. Um, so I gave it a couple, you know, two weeks, but I'm really looking

[36:10] for direction here. I know I will provide direction to my department, but

[36:14] I would like to have my proposal either approved or or not simply from the

[36:20] standpoint of that my department needs to have a goal or outlook moving

[36:25] forward. So, I don't want to push anybody, but I do want you to understand

[36:29] that I'm really looking to run with this January 1st and and start with this in

[36:37] mind. I'm not I'm I'm not sure if hiring a full-time employee right away. I don't

[36:45] see myself doing that, but at least having a framework to where when I talk

[36:49] to my employees and say this is where we're headed that that it's approved and

[36:54] that that because I I've hinted at this for six months and I I really would like

[36:59] to have a clear answer if if if possible.

[37:04] Yeah. Like I said, I'm not against you. just got to absorb it and and try to you

[37:08] got to know the numbers too. So like just the the the

[37:13] texts or the the two leads are going to go up in wages. Is yours going to change

[37:18] that? I didn't even Desessie was um she was right before she was leaving. She

[37:24] did this kind of as a favor to run through the DMV to kind of get an idea

[37:28] because I didn't know where we were going to fall. Haven't even looked at

[37:32] where I'm at. haven't even and in fact I'm I'm okay if I stay where I'm at. I

[37:38] just simply want it's part of the equation. We got to

[37:41] know true 100%.

[37:42] You know what I mean? That's kind of what the numbers game like.

[37:46] What does that do to your department? Does everybody I mean like how did your

[37:50] kind of changing structure of it? Exactly. And that's

[37:53] not saying it's bad but you got to know the details small details.

[37:58] Agreed. And that that's really why I'm here too is to be transparent about what

[38:04] my goals are and to get a clear framework laid out. So

[38:09] what is everybody else's thoughts Mr. Chairman? So we did put into your

[38:15] budget was approved for an additional person already. Right.

[38:19] Correct. Right. So if if that is something, you know, depending on how

[38:23] how things go, like you mentioned, it may not be something we do right away,

[38:29] right? And see how things go. The money is

[38:32] there for these adjustments um already. and whether we decide to go with an

[38:39] additional person, you know, say in four or five months when whatever

[38:44] um by by doing this um changing the the structure to the lead text and their um

[38:53] DBM changing that money is already in his budget.

[38:59] So, um I guess you know I'm fine with waiting till the next meeting and and I

[39:05] guess one other thing I wanted to say when you talk about the election you're

[39:08] talking about measure four measure four

[39:10] that was aund if measure four wouldn't have been on the table and there

[39:13] wouldn't have been real risk at the at the county level

[39:18] being changed 100% and then me adding another wrench and I would never have

[39:24] waited this long. I would have put this forth way before that. But yeah,

[39:30] you know, and the way I I I see it is when we really ramp up and there's a

[39:37] demand on time for the maintenance department is when the grass starts

[39:43] really, really growing. So June, July, those guys have always been on a mower.

[39:49] Well, with two mowers, that definitely changes their work. And so I probably

[39:54] wouldn't move forward with that second maintenance person until,

[40:01] you know, summer, spring, and maybe that person is a seasonal until I find the

[40:06] right person because if I open it and there's not the right fit, I don't want

[40:11] to hire someone until I find that person. So it could be a temporary

[40:15] position or a seasonal position for the whole next year. So, I just want to

[40:22] make sure that that's clear as well. Yeah. And again, I'm not against that

[40:26] because that was in your budget, but now you're taking everybody else and kind of

[40:29] going to different levels, right? So, how does that look, right?

[40:32] All I'm saying, I mean, y

[40:35] it's not a bad thing. You had somebody else hired, but now you just want to

[40:38] take everybody else. Yeah.

[40:40] And put structure to it. Yep. a hierarchy of of how the

[40:44] department operates and then make that widely known so that if

[40:49] another department needs assistance and I don't pick up my phone or whatever,

[40:54] they've got contact information and they everybody should be able to communicate

[41:00] with one another. So, you probably have enough money in your

[41:04] budget right now. Yes.

[41:05] Right. Yeah, I do. I do.

[41:07] I think I think you can go ahead and run your

[41:10] Okay. Okay. I I agree. Um it's in the it's in the

[41:14] budget now. It it would come down to whether we feel it's justified to add

[41:19] another person either seasonal or full-time um down the road.

[41:23] Yeah. Um I the other thing I like about this

[41:27] is the succession part of it. That's something in our strategic plan and

[41:32] we've all agreed that's important and we should have that and

[41:36] to have the right person to be able to step in in case

[41:40] um you decide to go to work at McDonald's or something.

[41:44] I know I know it has been a risk. Yeah. I think too if if uh that gives

[41:51] you you have a fairly new person on so that gives you time to adjust where that

[41:56] person best fits your situation. So you know 3 months from now when

[42:03] you need a seasonal person or whatever that gives you some time to adjust all

[42:07] that. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It does. And and the

[42:11] other thing too is it provides a framework that maybe in the near future

[42:16] there's a need for an you know who knows what the additional impact may or may

[42:21] not be at least there's a hierarchy of where those that person may fit in this

[42:26] current setup instead of just we need another person well in what way and what

[42:31] in what avenue do they fit. This helps kind of delineate that very very a lot

[42:37] more clear.

[42:40] Mr. Yeah. Um I think do we need a motion right now or just

[42:45] I think you can just go ahead and run ahead. He's got the money there. Yeah.

[42:48] Okay. And as far as like the park um the park board um I know that they'll

[42:54] probably be we felt like if I'm going to be acting as answering to the park board

[43:00] and having their marching orders so to speak um even though I'm I was a park

[43:06] board member me stepping down and and filling that with another person

[43:11] starting in January that's so as long as we're covered by that like it doesn't

[43:16] require a motion and then I would wear that different um hat so to speak with

[43:22] the park director. Um and that includes handling all the basically it's it's

[43:28] running the campground, handling all the calls, run running web reserve, all the

[43:32] the other things that are involved in that that were being handled by someone

[43:37] else that you know now falls on us. So, as long as everybody's aware of that and

[43:43] that that does impact me moving forward, it is something that my department has

[43:50] kind of enveloped. So, I just want to make sure that that's clear and if we're

[43:54] good, I'll do my thing and we'll just continue to um do it. So,

[44:00] okay. Thank you. Thanks, Will. Yep. Sarah, are you

[44:03] online?

[44:07] I'm pulling into the parking lot. Oh, okay. We'll do vouchers until you

[44:12] get here.

[45:48] Do you know what the repairs to the wheat building were for?

[45:55] 500 roughly under buildings.

[46:06] Okay. Okay.

[46:15] Okay. Thank you.

[46:20] Schmidt. Yeah.

[47:10] Mr. Chairman, I move to approve the vouchers. Is

[47:14] there a second? Second.

[47:16] Motion made by Commissioner Do, second by Commissioner Marsh to approve the

[47:20] vouchers. Is there any discussion? Is there any discussion? Hearing none,

[47:25] roll call vote. Commissioner Marsh, yes.

[47:27] Commissioner Dozel, yes.

[47:28] Commissioner Pelton, yes.

[47:29] Commissioner yes. Motion carried.

[47:32] Sarah.

[47:41] Good morning, commission. How are you today?

[47:44] Good. Um, I just uh would like to come before

[47:49] you about rescending the total burn ban requests that we had put in place first

[47:56] part of October when the wildfires went out and then revert back to the

[48:02] restrictions the restrictions as we had established

[48:05] in April. So and that is I have discussed it with the

[48:11] fire chiefs.

[48:16] questions. Mr. Chairman, I'd move that we reser

[48:21] resend our current burn ban and revert back to the burn ban we had before we

[48:27] put that in place. Is there a second?

[48:29] Second. Motion made by Commissioner Pelden,

[48:32] second by Commissioner Marsh to resend the total burn ban, go back to the

[48:36] restrictions we put on in April. Is there any discussion?

[48:41] Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor say I.

[48:44] I. All opposed. Motion carried. Thank you.

[48:47] I will get it printed out for you to sign that, Cody, and then um I'll update

[48:51] all the state websites today. Thank you.

[48:55] Thanks. Okay. Anything else?

[49:00] Motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn.

[49:04] Second. Second.

[49:05] Motion made by Commissioner Mars. Seconded by Commissioner Dzall to

[49:08] adjurnn. Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor say I.

[49:13] I. I.

[49:14] All opposed. Motion carried. It's a record.

[49:21] Two.

[49:26] Thank you.

Dunn County ND Commission Meeting November 20, 2024

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