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I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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All right, roll call. In advance of
that, I inform everyone. Council
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President Collins uh did inform that he
would not be in and council person times
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also had a another engagement and it
notified us in advance. So, just want to
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make sure that's noted for the record.
Roll call. Blue
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» here.
>> Schneider here.
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» Garmin
>> here.
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Council received minutes for the finance
committee meeting on 83.
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Any amendments to those minutes?
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Hearing none, minutes stand is approved.
Council also received minutes of the
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regular council meeting on 83.
Any amendments?
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Hearing
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stand
as
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I'll take this into public speaks.
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All right, before we start, just a
reminder for everybody the public
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speaks, there is a five minute time
limit per speaker.
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Start at the top. Rodney Stone, 1205
Evening Star Avenue. Would you like to
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speak, sir?
>> No, sir.
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» Jeff McCauley, 525 Murray Avenue. Would
you like to speak?
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» Sure.
>> All right. Do I just speak from right
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here?
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I've been driving
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through East Canada about 39 years now.
Never had a ticket. And suddenly in a
[41:11]
two weeks time period, I had three
mailed to me. There could be more in my
[41:14]
mailbox now. Wasn't very happy about
that. So, I posted it online and much to
[41:21]
my surprise, I have about 35,000
responses and counting as of when I
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pulled in here. Um,
so I did some research on it and it I
[41:34]
could be wrong, but it's what I was told
and what I read is that about 40% of
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that revenue goes to the company that
supplies the cameras. Is that true?
[41:44]
» Yes, that's accurate.
>> Okay. which doesn't sound like a very
[41:47]
good deal. It sounds like the the
community of Eastan and the pastors
[41:51]
through Eastand, they're paying a lot of
money to an outside company, which I
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would never let anybody negotiate a deal
where somebody gets 40% of my revenue,
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but but that's me. Um, so in doing so,
people have been reaching out to me. In
[42:05]
fact, on the way here, some people out
of Cincinnati,
[42:08]
I I just got in contact with him. I had
to hang up to to come in here something
[42:12]
about Scott Sloan or Sloan's law or
whatever have offered to help uh fight
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this I guess. Um so I was going to bring
that to your attention. Recommended
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[clears throat]
maps to distribute to show people how to
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avoid East Canton petitions to the
businesses to let them know that they're
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not going to be patrons of the business
as long as those cameras are in play.
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and then a strategy to have the
officials that are in here now voted out
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next election to make, you know, if they
don't make a change for the camera. And
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I thought about it and I do have the the
time and the resources to do it. So, I
[42:48]
am going to commit to that. But I wanted
to bring it to your attention. I mean,
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39 years is a long time to go without a
ticket and all of a sudden I have at
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least three for $175 for going 46.
46 is not an unsafe speed, especially on
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a stretch of road that 10 feet further
is 55 miles per hour. I definitely plan
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on fighting that myself. And now that
everybody else has reached out to me,
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I'm I'm going to talk to Scott Sloan and
their people and basically anybody else
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who wants to get involved because that
is that's just not fair. That's not
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safety. That's not the interest of
public safety. That's a cash grab is
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what that is. So that's what I have to
say.
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Very good.
Tony and Carlos Scott.
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Um I'm just coming to here today to
number one um
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ask a question in regards to the whole
thing about the u cameras and and the
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speeding. Um certainly I understand you
want safety in your communities and if
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the speed limit says 35 and I was going
46 or 47 then in fact I was speeding.
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That's obvious. Um I did realize that
and I don't travel through East Can a
[44:11]
lot because I live over in Freeberg so I
kind of go different ways different
[44:16]
times but I like to come through East
Cam just to see what's kind of going on.
[44:20]
Uh, I think with the cameras, uh, it it
it takes away the ability
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of a real person to pull you over, pull
up your driving record and see what kind
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of person they're dealing with. Uh, I
haven't had a speeding ticket for years.
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And, uh, I was surprised when I got this
in the mail. I went down and I saw where
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where I came through. It was 35. I'm
sure I was within the speed limit. And
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as I gradually out town, I hardly pay
any attention to the signs because I
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don't speed. Uh on the interstate, I'll
put it on cruise control. Wherever I
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can, I put on cruise control because the
last thing I want to do is pay for a
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speeding ticket. So again, I'm not here
to u badger you. I'm not here to uh
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question uh this issue. The thing that I
I thing that I would like to know is at
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least have a opportunity to say, "Look,
I wasn't aware of these. I'm sure you
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see a sign that says after I went back
and and looked, I saw the sign." But
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there's signs all the way around and if
I'm a law-abiding citizen, as long as
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I'm staying within the proper range of
so, I'm not paying much attention to
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that. So, I, you know, I'm not on
Facebook. My wife is, I've heard a
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little bit of this or that. I'm not
coming in here to put any pressure on
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anybody. I just would like to have a at
least some common sense. Say, look, you
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came through here. I was going too fast.
Here's a friendly warning and you're and
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you're good to go. $175 is a lot of
money for a for something that you know,
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you just weren't completely aware of.
But again, I'm not saying that I wasn't
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speeding if the speed limit was that.
But again, from 35 to [clears throat]
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just a short amount of time, it becomes
55.
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There's a there's some grace period in
there that I think somebody could, you
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know, with common sense could see. So
that's all I'm saying.
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[clears throat and cough]
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» Miss Scott, would you add anything?
>> Well, we actually got two speeding
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tickets. We contested it and sent the
first one wherever we were supposed to
[46:30]
send it, but we got two duplicates. Same
time stamp, which kind of to me set up
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red flags. My son called out the police
department to make sure this was even
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legitimate because why two same time
stamp doesn't make sense.
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» Yeah, we we noticed that that that the
processor had duplicated um particular
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day I believe uh that there were
duplicates sent out. Yeah, you are
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correct in that.
>> Well, and and I feel the same way that
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my husband and the gentleman behind me,
this seems like a speed trap. Um because
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I got a ticket, my neighbor got a
ticket, her husband got a ticket,
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they're all $175 and we're all going the
same speed, 47 miles per hour.
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» And then I got online and I seen
everybody's complaining about the same
[47:19]
thing and it's like are these do we even
trust like when these were calibrated
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and who's checking it and is this
correct? I mean, it just seems fishy
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that all three of us and you look
online, everybody's going 47 and then we
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all got $175 speeding tickets. And I
personally always come through East
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Canton when I'm coming home because I go
77. I like to stop at Green Farms. I
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like to get my gas not down there on the
corner and all that mess. I come up
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through here. I like to come to the
library with my grandson. And I'm going
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to do everything possible to avoid these
can. So is my neighbor. We're like,
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we're not even going through there
because we're all mad. And that's all I
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have to say.
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» This is 24953 Canal Street.
>> Uh yes. Um first of all, I'd like to say
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I agree with everything that the members
of the public have said before me
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tonight. Um and then I would like to
begin by saying uh the fifth and sixth
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amendments of the constitution typically
apply to criminal matters and typically
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historically when you are pulled over by
a human police officer for a speeding
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ticket that is a criminal offense. So
you have you maintain your right to due
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process the right to as people say face
your accuser have the witnesses of the
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crime brought before you. But now
suddenly when a traffic camera issues a
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civil citation for the same supposed
crime of speeding,
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you supposedly lose your constitutional
right to those things. Um, there have
[49:00]
been courts and judges that have seen
through that paper thin tactic and said
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that those things do still apply in some
civil cases and I feel that they would
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and I also agree with what has been said
that this is basically what you would
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call colloquially a speed trap and that
it is a cash grab and that you guys
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issue 10,000 citations approximately
according to the last meeting that I
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attended you know two weeks ago which if
you do that at $175 minimum per ticket
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times 10,000 is 1.75 million, which to
my understanding before you take out the
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40% that goes to traffic and logistics
or whatever the bogus company's name is
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that owns these cameras takes their 40%
cut. That's like what you guys bring in
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an entire year in tax property taxes if
I understand correctly or close to it.
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You know, I'm my numbers might be a
little bit off because I don't live in
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East. I wouldn't even be here for these cameras. Thank you.
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Okay, that will conclude public speaks
takes us into committee reports service.
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[clears throat]
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» Okay. Under parks, uh remove the we
remove the old playground equipment at
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the park.
>> New playground equipment has been
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installed.
>> We will need to do some uh ground work
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around the new equipment. Um, this have
to be done after the ground starts to
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dry up. [clears throat]
Talk with softball. I believe Mrs.
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Heimmes asked me about this. Talk with
softball. They do have fall ball
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practices at that lower field. Uh, but
the [snorts] games will be played in a
[50:35]
different venue. I also reached out to
baseball. They sent me a schedule. I'll
[50:39]
review that, but it should not conflict
uh anything to do with our market on the
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Sundays.
Under roads, we trim trees on several
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alleys. uh install 35 mph sign of NASA
west catch basin repair at Wood and
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Orchard. Again, the state paving project
is close to being completed in town. Uh
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I spoke with the head of the project.
All cut down areas have been marked in
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white paint. Um uses the service
department have located a couple spots
[51:08]
that were not marked in white paint that
we feel needed attention. I did reach
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out to them. So there is no date for
this to take place. Uh, I'll just
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continue to keep communication with the
project manager till the project's
[51:20]
complete. Uh, under service, we worked
on the pedals of the skid steer. They
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were sticking. We've tried to repair
them. We'll hope it works, but if not,
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we might have to look into getting new
pedals for it.
[51:33]
Um,
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under zoning, I wrote one zoning
violation.
[51:41]
Um, under other, they attended the CUV
salt meeting. We'll be ordering salt
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next month, I believe, is the early
order. Um, we had a power outage in town
[51:52]
yesterday. Both generators at the pump
house and the tower came on and all
[51:56]
things flow without any issues. Out of
the four traffic lights in town
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with battery backups, one did not come
on. We put temporary stop signs up at
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each side of the intersection. And I
will be looking into why this took place
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at that intersection.
>> Aren't [clears throat] those all new
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batteries, too?
>> No, there
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» there's one of them that there's one of
them that the battery uh backup systems
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bad and traffic and controls were
supposed to get us a quote on it. We
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never did get that. We determined that
earlier this year in the springtime. It
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was the one at uh 172 and
>> 44 is the one that did not come on. But
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I'll be looking into it to why it did
come on and and probably getting
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somebody out here to look at that. Try
to get that quote done. I don't know any
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requested that [clears throat] I'll look
>> probably tell you go back look the last
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invoice we paid with them right then.
Any other question?
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» I do not.
>> Yeah. All the way from like Belvore to
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Trump I didn't hear anything.
um that one touch base we talked about
[52:59]
last meeting. So that one is not marked.
>> No, that was one of the ones. And then
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there's also the north side of Nassau
Plum intersection. There's a man sewer
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manhole there. They didn't have
[clears throat] that one marked. I
[53:10]
believe I
>> marked that one like
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» that one.
>> Yeah, the catch basin. [clears throat]
[53:18]
Yes. But there is a sewer lid there
that's not marked. I think it needs it
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because it's pretty bad. Okay.
>> So it was the one down here at Walnut.
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» The catch basin. and the sewer lid, but
the sewer lids they they draw around it,
[53:30]
but not that. So, that was one of them,
the catch face, and then the other one
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was the sewer lid at plum. So, those
were the two that we addressed. I just
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don't have a date on when they're going
to come back through town and do all
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these. They've marked them all. So,
>> I don't know if you marked them or
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» they actually went through and did it
theirelves
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at night time. It was like 8:00 at night
or something. And then he when I
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communicated with him, he uh he had
asked me to go through and check and
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make sure there's anything that and I
when I did those were two of the spots
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that I did mention to him. Okay.
If there's anything else anybody sees,
[54:05]
just let me know. But I we drove around
and looked two of the ones that I'm
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questions or concerns.
We are still working on street sweeps.
[54:18]
It's It's steer only moves so fast. You
can't move it fast with it. It is a slow
[54:23]
process,
>> but it works good. When it does, it
[54:26]
works. It does a good job.
>> Does it pick up or does it move to the
[54:29]
side?
>> No. So, we have a curb brush that goes
[54:32]
along the curb and pushes in front and
then the broom actually pushes it into
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the bucket
>> and then we take it and dump it.
[54:37]
» You didn't
already.
[54:40]
» No.
Like I said, there's a reoccurring
[54:44]
issues of putting in the people's
driveways and wash back out. We just
[54:47]
haven't put it back in people's
travelers. So, just been properly
[54:50]
disposing that.
>> Well, have we ever gone around and done
[54:54]
that before?
>> Yeah, we actually did uh several years
[54:57]
ago, we did a whole town one. And then
when we had the creek cleaned at noble
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street
>> y
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» creek. There was a muddy mess. So, we
actually did that whole area there. We
[55:08]
rented one ourselves and did it. That
was years ago, too. But whole town wise
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know, it's been a long time since we had
somebody come in. It's just built up.
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This is going to take longer. The first
time
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» it is. And then like I said, with these
rains we've been having, it's just
[55:21]
crazy. It just everything just keeps
washing down the road. There's several
[55:24]
spots where the roads washed out, too.
We know one's on Willow by Mr. Bachman.
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And there's another one down by Mr.
Blue's house. So, some of these roads
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are starting to wash out a little bit.
We just got to get hot.
[55:42]
» Good. Thanks, guys.
takes us to
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safety. Chief is not in tonight. Officer
Wiser is here. They previously sent a
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report.
>> We had two [clears throat] uh late
[55:59]
incomers. Do they need to sign in or
>> Yeah,
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um
so I you [clears throat] all got this at
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» obviously I I've only watched how this
is done, so I'm going to do my best. Um,
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for our call types, we had 120 security
checks, 94 extra patrols, 78 traffic
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stops, uh, 10 assist other agencies,
seven follow-ups, four domestic
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violence, four 911 hang-ups, and 29
other calls for service. Um, that was a
[56:43]
total of 346 calls logged from August
3rd to August 17th. Um, it averaged it
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did a daily average of 23 calls per day.
[music]
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Sorry.
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Um, that's all I have for stats.
Um, we had a very successful National
[57:09]
Night Out, probably um, one of the best
events that we've done thus far and we
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do plan to continue that um, every year,
make it better. There was a lot of
[57:18]
participation with the fire department
township and um a lot of local
[57:25]
businesses were very supportive in that
as well. Um and we we want to continue
[57:30]
our second annual trunk or treat this
year also. Um we do plan to also get
[57:36]
businesses involved in that as well.
Kind of like the same aspect of what we
[57:40]
did for National Night Out.
[57:44]
» That's it. Good.
>> Thank you. Thank you s
[57:55]
would you mind bring me that?
Thank you.
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Before we jump into judicial we will
allow the
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Okay.
Is it Rhonda? Rhonda Briggs.
[58:15]
» Yes. [clears throat] address 121 Delore
Drive Northeast.
[58:19]
» Yeah,
>> this breaks floor is yours.
[58:22]
» Okay. I am here about the speed cameras.
>> Okay. Personally, my own opinion, I
[58:27]
think in ways they're not a bad thing. I
personally prefer what they have over on
[58:32]
one street where it warns you you're
slowing down or speed up or whatever. To
[58:37]
me, that's a better option that's more
friendly to the community. the speed
[58:43]
cameras in the right places. I
understand, but you explain to me the
[58:50]
one going out of East Canton toward
Lewisville.
[58:54]
Okay. To me, that is technically I've
checked into it. You know, I have done
[58:59]
my research, but technically it's not a
speed track, but it is. It is intent.
[59:06]
The intent of the camera that is
pointing north on 144. The only purpose
[59:12]
of that camera is to trap people like
myself, which I am a law-abiding
[59:18]
citizen. I haven't had a speed ticket
since
[59:22]
uh I don't remember what year, but it's
been about 35 years. Okay? And I do
[59:26]
respect the speeds in town. I respect
that. It should be that way. Okay?
[59:30]
There's kids, there's cars coming out. I
understand that. But going out of town,
[59:35]
Route 44, the day that they caught me, I
don't go that way very often, but when I
[59:40]
do, I had to backtrack. I check my GPS
to see where I was and why I was there.
[59:45]
And I realized what I did. And what they
did when there's 35 mph speed sign right
[59:51]
here and not even 100 feet, we're going
to measure. We're going to absolutely
[59:56]
measure that to make sure, but a very
short distance, it says 55 miles an
[1:00:00]
hour. So, you're catching me after I'm
after the 35 mph limit. Between that and
[1:00:08]
the 55 and yeah, I started accelerating.
I think a lot of people don't realize
[1:00:12]
you cannot accelerate until you get to
that 55 limit. I didn't realize that and
[1:00:17]
I've been driving since I was 16. Okay.
I did not realize that. So, the intent
[1:00:23]
of that camera was not to stop speeders
in East Canton. The intent of that
[1:00:29]
camera is specifically to see how many
people they can nail like me. $175.
[1:00:37]
I'm sorry, but I'm on a fixed income.
That is not affordable. How many
[1:00:42]
families that cannot afford it are
getting hit with $175 because they
[1:00:47]
didn't realize. But the intent of that
camera is not to slow down speed coming
[1:00:51]
into East Canton. It's to see how many
people they can get going out. And that
[1:00:55]
is wrong. That is wrong. the other one
coming in. If I was coming into town and
[1:01:00]
I come to that 35 and I'm going faster
than where I should be, fine.
[1:01:04]
[clears throat] But when I'm going out
of town, you're not protecting the town.
[1:01:09]
You're nailing people that money. That
is wrong. So, I will fight it. I will do
[1:01:15]
everything that I can. I have talked to
a lawyer. If I have to go to court,
[1:01:19]
whatever I have to do, but it is wrong.
And tell you one thing, too. If they
[1:01:23]
don't stop that, if they don't get rid
of that camera going north, that is
[1:01:26]
nothing but a speed trap. Even though
legally it's not. Okay. But the intent
[1:01:33]
of it is to get people just like myself.
It's not to protect coming into town. It
[1:01:39]
the intent is to nail people. I saw on
Facebook, okay, people that said, "I got
[1:01:45]
five tickets in one week." I was waiting
for another ticket because I thought,
[1:01:49]
what if, you know, cuz if if a live
police officer would have stopped me
[1:01:53]
that day and said, "Do you realize you
were going 40?" I was going one mile
[1:01:58]
faster than what they allow. They allow
the 10 miles. Okay, I went one mile
[1:02:02]
faster than that. So, if she would have
stopped me and told me that and gave me
[1:02:07]
a ticket, I could have accepted that.
But at least I'd have known then the
[1:02:12]
next day if I come through, watch
myself. You cannot accelerate till you
[1:02:16]
hit the 55. But how many people come
through the one day like I did? What if
[1:02:21]
I'd have come through every day like
going to work or something? What if I
[1:02:25]
had got five or six tickets? Are you
going to tell me that I'm going to get
[1:02:28]
five or six $175 tickets and you're
going to expect me to pay that? They can
[1:02:34]
sit me in jail for a while. I have
nothing better to do. But that is wrong.
[1:02:39]
» Just so I understand what you're saying,
ma'am. You're saying that people are
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receiving
tickets from the same camera.
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» Yes.
>> Five times in a week.
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» From the same.
>> That's what I heard. Yes.
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» From the same camera.
>> Yeah.
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» Okay.
>> And stop and think. If I was going to
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work every day and if I was going that
way and I didn't realize, okay, when you
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come to the 35 and then you see 55 right
in front of you
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» and they said, we need I've got a long
tape measure. We need to measure that.
[1:03:05]
I've been out there looking at it. But
in that distance right there, they got
[1:03:10]
me going one mile faster than what the
allowed amount was. But I said, I didn't
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realize you're not allowed to accelerate
till you get to the 55. That is a trap.
[1:03:21]
Technically, I've checked into it.
Technically, a trap is something that is
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set up in a way that causes someone to
intentionally do something wrong.
[1:03:31]
Okay. So, that's not technically,
[snorts] but if you look at the intent
[1:03:36]
of it, that intent is not to protect
East Canton Village from people
[1:03:42]
speeding. I'm going out of town. So, if
I hit 55 in a minute, that's not
[1:03:48]
protecting East Canton Village. That is
nailing people for $175 just cuz you
[1:03:53]
guys want to line your pockets. So, they
either get rid of that camera going
[1:03:57]
north, do something about it, or come
voting time, guess who's not going to be
[1:04:01]
voting for anyone in this room, okay? If
they ask for a police levy, why should I
[1:04:07]
pass that one? You're going to hit me
with $175 for doing something stupid
[1:04:11]
like that, that is intent and it's
wrong. So, how many families have three
[1:04:16]
or four or five kids and they go up
through there and they get $175 ticket
[1:04:21]
and they don't realize you're not
allowed to accelerate at all to hit 55?
[1:04:26]
And what if they go the next day? What
are you going to do? Charge them $175
[1:04:30]
for every time that they went through
there?
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» No. That's why one time, like I said,
that's why I asked the question. I'm
[1:04:36]
going to look into it. Um because you
know we we had a program in place where
[1:04:43]
to prevent that uh essentially but we
will look into that.
[1:04:47]
» Prevent what?
>> Prevent somebody from getting uh five
[1:04:51]
tickets from one camera within a week.
>> Okay.
[1:04:53]
» Uh so I will look into it. I appreciate
you bringing that forward.
[1:04:58]
» Okay. And
>> but even at that to me the point even my
[1:05:02]
ticket I will fight it all the way
because technically if you want to go by
[1:05:08]
the law by the word by word technically
it's not a trap but what is the intent
[1:05:14]
of that camera? The intent is not to
stop people from speeding in East Canton
[1:05:19]
because I'm leaving town.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:21]
» The intent was to nail me for $175
freaking dollars I can't afford. And
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it's wrong. Period.
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Richard Briggs, same address, 121 Del
War Drive.
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» Yes.
>> Yes, sir.
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» You guys aren't a court of law. You're
simply a village council
[1:05:43]
and you have the ability to make laws,
make regulations,
[1:05:49]
and to uh ask for enforcement.
when she goes to court and we talk to
[1:05:57]
the judicial system on appeal,
they said, "We're so backed up, it might
[1:06:02]
take a year for your case to be heard."
That didn't come from us. That came from
[1:06:09]
the court. [laughter]
So, just so you know, there not a lot of
[1:06:14]
goodwill going on with those cameras.
Here's what's going to happen.
[1:06:19]
You're not going to pass another police
levy as long as those cameras are up.
[1:06:25]
None of you who want to get reelected
and supported that camera, you're all
[1:06:32]
going to be out of office.
So,
[1:06:36]
that's just the way it is. Now, I've
done a little checking on law.
[1:06:43]
And the speed cameras, they come from a
company out of state, right?
[1:06:49]
» Mhm. [clears throat]
[1:06:52]
» Am I correct?
>> Are you talking about the manufacturers?
[1:06:56]
» Uh, the manufacturer and the people that
issue the tickets and the people that
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read the tickets. They're not from Ohio,
are they?
[1:07:04]
» The officer that reviews the tickets is
an East Canon police officer. processor
[1:07:09]
is um [snorts]
>> yes out of state. Yes.
[1:07:12]
» Okay. So, what I'm about to say
[clears throat] is that there is an eth
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amendment to the constitution
that says cruel and unusual punishment
[1:07:26]
is prohibited. That's in the eth
amendment.
[1:07:30]
And that applies because this is an
outofstate company that is administering
[1:07:38]
the money that kicks back to you guys.
In the Ohio state constitution,
[1:07:44]
the ninth amendment
duplicates the eth amendment for the US
[1:07:49]
Constitution where the Ohio Constitution
says you can't have cruel and unusual
[1:07:55]
punishment.
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You don't have to be a lawyer to stand
in front of a judge and say this is
[1:08:04]
cruel and unusual punishment. And if the
judge agrees,
[1:08:09]
those cameras are gone.
Okay. So, I'm just saying this as a word
[1:08:15]
of warning. Well, that sounds like a
threat. So, a word of advice. the
[1:08:20]
cameras go down or police levies go down
and your political futures go down with
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it, it's your call. I don't have a
ticket, so I'm in good shape.
[1:08:34]
Surprisingly, because he drives faster
than I do, so it's like I'm really
[1:08:39]
careful. And when I got that ticket, I
was floored. He told me it was in the
[1:08:43]
mail. I thought he was joking. I said,
"You got to be kidding me." I He knows
[1:08:47]
how careful I am about speed. And then
they get me for $175. He's talking about
[1:08:52]
cruel and unusual punishment. That is a
lot of money.
[1:08:57]
In my book, it is.
>> I've never had a speeding ticket, but I
[1:09:01]
got two warnings in the month of July.
One of my only warnings.
[1:09:04]
» I never got a warning.
>> Yeah. If you don't go that way a lot,
[1:09:06]
you wouldn't. I drive through East Camp
now. But
[1:09:10]
» so anyway, not to digress because you
guys got important stuff you have to do
[1:09:14]
because you're the council. If you have
any questions for me, say so. If not,
[1:09:19]
I'll shut up and sit down.
>> Appreciate your time, sir. Thank you.
[1:09:27]
» Get back on track to the agenda. uh
takes us into judicial
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» or [clears throat] ordinance 2026-15,
an ordinance to authorize the village of
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East Camp fiscal officer to make the
following interfund transfer between the
[1:09:44]
general fund fund number 1000-910-910
and the police operating fund fund
[1:09:50]
number 2904-931-0000
[1:09:56]
and to declare an emergency via It
hereby ordained by the council of the
[1:10:00]
village of East Canton that the village
of East Canton authorizes the fiscal
[1:10:05]
officer to perform the following
interfund transfer. General fund to
[1:10:10]
police operating fund transfer. decrease
the general fund transfers out fund
[1:10:15]
number 1000-910-910-0000
[1:10:20]
by $50,000 and increase the police
operating fund fund number 2904-931-0000
[1:10:29]
by $50,000 effective81026
that the village of East Canton fiscal
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officer shall certify the increased
appropriations to the Stark County
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auditor and shall do all things
reasonable and necessary to accomplish
[1:10:44]
this to accomplish the purposes of this
ordinance. Be it further ordained, it is
[1:10:49]
hereby found and determined that all
formal actions of this council
[1:10:53]
concerning and relating to the passage
of this ordinance were taken in an open
[1:10:56]
meeting of this council and that all
deliberations of this council and of any
[1:11:02]
of its committees that resulted in such
formal action were meetings open to the
[1:11:06]
public and in compliance with the law.
Be it further ordained that this
[1:11:10]
ordinance is hereby declared to be an
emergency measure necessary for the
[1:11:13]
immediate preservation of the public
peace, health, safety, convenience, and
[1:11:17]
welfare of the village of East Canton
and shall be in full force in effect
[1:11:21]
from and after its passage and at the
earliest date allowable by law.
[1:11:30]
Someone
[1:11:37]
» call blue.
>> Yay.
[1:11:39]
» Schneider.
>> Yay.
[1:11:40]
» Carmen.
[1:11:45]
» Motion to suspend the rules.
Second.
[1:11:53]
» Roll call. Blue.
>> Yay.
[1:11:54]
» Snider.
>> Yay.
[1:11:55]
» Carmen. Yay. Yeah,
>> we need three quarters to suspend the
[1:11:59]
rules. We don't have
>> ah okay.
[1:12:17]
» Anything else for judicial?
[1:12:26]
takes us into grants. Anything for
grants?
[1:12:29]
» Um, [clears throat] as Miss Riggs said
at the last meeting,
[1:12:35]
traditionally we should be hearing
something from uh the uh congressionally
[1:12:42]
directed spending folks either this
month or next month. as far as uh
[1:12:49]
as far as what would been approved. Um
I've been watching the news and seeing
[1:12:55]
what's going on in Congress and there's
a lot of infighting there. So I thought
[1:13:00]
I'd just take a look and see how how
dedicated these guys are getting
[1:13:06]
business done. as of uh
July 31st,
[1:13:14]
that is 212 calendar days from January
1st.
[1:13:19]
The House was in session for 107 of
those days and out for 105 days.
[1:13:29]
The Senate was in session 115 days
and was out
[1:13:37]
97
days.
[1:13:41]
So to me, it suggests that they're not
really
[1:13:46]
getting getting the job done. So it's my
personal belief we probably won't be
[1:13:51]
hearing anything from them till after
the first of the year.
[1:13:56]
I hope I'm wrong. I'd really like to get
on with this waterline project, but at
[1:14:00]
the same time can't rush the wheels of
progress. In the interim, I'm going to
[1:14:07]
contact
um Representative Kishman and Senator
[1:14:12]
Timkin of the state house and see if
they can provide some state money for
[1:14:18]
our match. Uh anything they can provide
will certainly be a benefit. So, that's
[1:14:25]
all I have. Anything
else for grants?
[1:14:30]
» No, sir.
>> Send of finance.
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» Make a motion to approve invoices in the
amount of $46,66622
[1:14:43]
as presented by fiscal officer dice.
[1:14:48]
Second.
[1:14:55]
Roll call. Blue. [clears throat]
>> Carmen.
[1:14:59]
» Hamst.
[1:15:05]
» Make a motion to approve payroll from
626, excuse me, 72626 to 88.26 in the
[1:15:14]
amount of $27,477
[1:15:19]
as presented by this foster guys. Second
[1:15:28]
roll call
[1:15:36]
» and then
I make a third motion to
[1:15:41]
approve the July 2026 bank
reconciliation as presented by fiscal
[1:15:47]
officer Dice.
Just that one. Second.
[1:15:52]
» [snorts]
[1:15:59]
» Roll call.
>> Blue.
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» Yes.
>> Snider.
[1:16:02]
» Yay.
>> Garmin.
[1:16:10]
» This officer guys noted the permanent
appropriations report through 819 is in
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the meeting packet.
>> Anything else for finance?
[1:16:23]
takes us into other.
[1:16:28]
I had sent a email um just
forformational purposes that this will
[1:16:34]
be brought forward regarding
setting the trick-or- treat dates for
[1:16:39]
this year.
Um
[1:16:42]
traditionally we do the last Sunday in
October
[1:16:47]
from 3:00 to 5:00. this year. However,
we do have an opportunity to do
[1:16:51]
something a little different that I
think the kids may like. Uh Halloween
[1:16:56]
actually falls on a Saturday this year,
um October 31st.
[1:17:01]
Um being that it's a Saturday and it's
Halloween, I wanted to see if council
[1:17:06]
would be open to changing the trick-or-
treat times from 3:00 to 5:00 to 6:00 to
[1:17:11]
8 and have it on that Saturday.
>> I don't have any objection. It'd be kind
[1:17:18]
of nice to see spooks at night.
>> Yeah.
[1:17:22]
» I like that. But I think we need PD
coverage when kids are walking around.
[1:17:27]
» So the PD was going to ask for trunk or
treat uh availability up at the park to
[1:17:33]
overlap that a little bit. I believe you
what did what four to six?
[1:17:36]
» Yeah. So if we did six if we did six to
eight for trickor treat, we wanted to do
[1:17:40]
five to seven to overlap that.
>> You still going to have people on the
[1:17:43]
road though?
>> Yeah. We're going to have officers out.
[1:17:46]
There will be officers taking calls and
then we'll probably have officers
[1:17:49]
driving around passing out candy too
like on the in the neighborhood
[1:17:52]
» especially because it's getting dark.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
[1:17:56]
» I just wonder is everyone so used to
that kind of general rule
[1:18:02]
» feel like there's people that aren't
going to get they're not going to see
[1:18:04]
the message or they're not going to so
how would we there's something we can do
[1:18:08]
more to let people know of a change like
[clears throat]
[1:18:13]
pretty big change.
>> Yeah, it is. It is and it
[1:18:16]
» it's boring, but I just
>> Yeah, I'm bored, but I just like
[1:18:20]
probably singing people, you know, can't
people whatever showing up on Sunday and
[1:18:25]
being like, "Oh, what the heck?"
>> Usually the repository posts the the
[1:18:29]
times, so we could inform the
repository. Uh, and then we could also
[1:18:33]
make sure we're posting on the front
door here, village website, social
[1:18:37]
media.
>> Let us put it on the
[1:18:40]
» Yeah, I'm sure they would.
>> We can. Yeah, we can do it on our
[1:18:44]
Facebook and like try to get it out as
much as we can. And I also am doing
[1:18:48]
flyers for the trunk or treat so I can I
can put something on there,
[1:18:53]
» you know, get it because we go around to
the township.
[1:19:00]
» I just think it'd be important to make
it as visible
[1:19:02]
» as possible. So does show up. There's
like
[1:19:09]
» plenty of time. Yeah.
[1:19:13]
» Right.
>> Not too many people do it,
[1:19:15]
» right? Not anymore. Right. Yeah. Figured
Saturday wouldn't be that impact the
[1:19:20]
families that much. I don't think you
know.
[1:19:23]
» Yeah.
[1:19:27]
» Yeah.
>> Just as long as we have police res. Y
[1:19:36]
people on over
[1:19:43]
» anything else for other
[1:19:50]
[clears throat and cough]
[1:19:56]
motion to
>> You just made a motion.
[1:20:00]
[laughter]
Sorry, I couldn't hear
[1:20:02]
» a little slow there even.
>> So you second motion to just want to
[1:20:07]
confirm you second.
>> Okay. Roll call. Blue.
[1:20:11]
» Yay.
>> Schneider.
[1:20:12]
» Yay. Carmen says yes.