[17:46] Good afternoon, everyone. We are live from Council chambers, and before we begin, I will go over the emergency response plan for this room. In an emergency, everyone must evacuate through the nearest safe exit, though seated in the gallery will take direction from security and council will take direction from the meeting clerk. After evacuating the room, please proceed to a stairwell, take the stairs to ground level and evacuate the building through the door's marked emergency exit and go to the master point. Do not take an elevator or walk through the city room. Anyone with limited mobility should identify themselves to security or the meeting clerk, chairing and evacuation, and please speak with

[18:16] or the meeting clerk if you require first aid.

[18:22] Thank you and good afternoon everyone.

[18:24] I'd like to call this meeting to order and begin with land acknowledgment.

[18:29] At this time I'd like to acknowledge that we meet on the traditional land of Treaty 6 Territory

[18:32] and the Macy homeland and acknowledge the diverse indigenous peoples

[18:35] whose ancestors footsteps have marked this territory for centuries,

[18:39] such as Cree, Dene, Soto, Blackfoot, Nikotasu, as well as Macy and Inuit

[18:44] and now settlers from around the world.

[19:16] Hello, Councillor Carmel.

[19:18] Good afternoon.

[19:19] Good afternoon.

[19:20] Councillor Rice.

[19:21] Good afternoon.

[19:22] Good afternoon.

[19:23] Councillor Jams.

[19:25] Good afternoon.

[19:27] All right.

[19:27] Adoffton of the agenda.

[19:30] Councillor Hamilton, would you like to do that?

[19:33] Yep.

[19:33] I'll move.

[19:34] Adoffton of the March 10th City Councillor non-regular agenda.

[19:42] Great.

[19:42] And that's just with the addition of five-pointed

[19:45] content transit services advisory report board and all report and work plan.

[19:50] Thank you. I haven't had the the changes. No problem.

[19:54] Great. Please vote.

[19:58] Yes.

[19:59] Council of Prince. It is yes.

[20:00] Thank you.

[20:01] Council of Prince Bay and yes.

[20:03] Yes.

[20:04] Thank you.

[20:08] Yes.

[20:09] Thank you.

[20:09] We have all the votes this way.

[20:11] The vote.

[20:14] That's carried.

[20:15] Thank you.

[20:17] Protocol items.

[20:18] None that I'm aware of.

[20:20] which means we can move on to selection of items for debate.

[20:35] Just for expediency, I will select all of the items on our agenda today.

[20:47] Okay, excellent. So that means there are no reports that have not been selected.

[20:52] Request to speak.

[20:55] I do see we have one.

[20:58] Just to the clerk, I'm understanding that we're hearing from the chair of each of the committees.

[21:04] Is this in addition to?

[21:06] that would be in addition. Yes. Okay.

[21:11] I'll move that to the council here from the following speaker.

[21:15] On item 5.1 David Ridley from the Edmonton Heritage Council.

[21:23] Look second.

[21:29] Just to the clerk.

[21:36] I see Councillor Tang on the board.

[21:39] Madam Clerk, can you clarify what we typically do as the council when I come to speakers?

[21:44] It is not usually your practice to hear from speakers, but of course it is your decision.

[21:48] Right, and I like my personal preference. I appreciate that you're you made it all the way here in person

[21:54] You're more than welcome to share what you have to say

[21:58] In writing and just so that we can come keep consistent with the practice

[22:03] Which typically deals speakers because given that this is not a committee. Sorry. I'm speaking to you. That's that's me

[22:09] I go with draw the motion that'd be great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor Stevenson and yeah

[22:13] recognizing that this is a city council meeting as opposed to a committee setting, it is

[22:18] practiced not here from speakers, but would welcome any additional correspondence or thoughts

[22:23] to be sent over our way or to our inboxes to help inform the conversation, so thank you for that.

[22:30] In request for specific time on the agenda, we have none voting on by-laws not selected for debate, none which means we can move on to our public reports.

[22:40] And first up on the agenda is 5.1, the Edmonton Historical Board.

[22:45] And I believe we have Steve Rees, joining us online.

[22:52] Before we start, would you mind if I just give a brief overview?

[22:55] Oh, for sure. How the day will go?

[22:57] Absolutely. Go ahead. Thank you. So the purpose of today's meeting is to hear from the council committees, and each chair co chair will present their 2024 annual report information about administrative support and expenses provided to the committee and their 2025 work plan.

[23:11] We have today available for questions, the civic agencies team from the office of the city clerk, as well as representatives from the branches that provided administrative support to each committee.

[23:19] Those committees that require council approval for subcommittees have included that in the recommendation in the report and provided details on the number of subcommittees requested in the work they will do.

[23:30] And if there are no process questions on how the day will proceed then yes, let's move on to the Edmonton historical board.

[23:37] Excellent not seeing any process questions around the table.

[23:40] We can move on to the Edmonton historical board.

[23:43] Hi, Steve. How are you?

[23:44] I'm good. How are you?

[23:46] Good. Good. Thank you so much for joining us today.

[23:48] So, we will turn it over to you, and then we'll see if anyone has any questions.

[23:54] Thank you.

[23:55] Thank you.

[23:56] Good afternoon, Honourable City Counselors.

[24:00] My name is Steve Reese, and I'm the chair of the Edmonton Historical Board.

[24:04] On behalf of the Board, I'm pleased to present our 2024 Annual Report.

[24:09] Our EHB Coordinator, Mitchell Norenberg, has provided you with the written report,

[24:13] and included in the report you'll find a summary of this past year's activities of the board and our work to deliver our mandate on our mandate to promote and advocate for the preservation of Edmonton's heritage.

[24:27] My presentation will just provide you with a summary of the report and our work plan going forward. There'll be some time for questions following my presentation.

[24:36] I am very proud of being the Chair of the Edmonton Historical Board and fortunate to have

[24:42] ten other passionate board members.

[24:44] The H.B. has a strong connection to the history of the city.

[24:49] The board's timeline stretches back to 1947 with the creation of the Archives and Landmarks

[24:55] Committee, then renamed the Edmonton Historical Board in 1966.

[25:00] In our 75 year history, we've been at the forefront of preserving the history and memories

[25:05] of our city.

[25:07] From the first registered historic resources in 1984 to the present, the city is now identified

[25:13] over a thousand historic properties, landmarks and features across the city, and has protected

[25:19] over a hundred and sixty municipal historic resources.

[25:23] I'm thankful to the work with our, to work with our talented staff at the city, of

[25:29] members and archives and the heritage planning team or conservation team.

[25:35] This past year we focused a lot on working with the Edmonton Heritage Council and the city

[25:41] of Edmonton in looking at ways we can work together more effectively.

[25:45] We look forward to working closer with the Edmonton Heritage Council and collaborating on specific

[25:52] initiatives next year.

[25:53] In this past year, our subcommittees have worked diligently to meet our mandate.

[25:59] We continue to build our relationship with council, administration, and heritage partners,

[26:04] including the Edmonds and Heritage Council, as I mentioned previously, and the Edmonds

[26:08] and District Historical Society.

[26:11] I'm particularly excited about our planning and policy committees work on a number of new ideas

[26:17] and our historical plaques committees work on our website rebuilt.

[26:22] In July 2024, we held the historical plaques presentation in Unison with the Edmonton and District Historical Society's historic festival and doors open about.

[26:33] The celebration was held at the newly designated St. Luke's Angle Concerts and highlighted the presentation of eight new plaques to newly designated buildings.

[26:44] Now, I'd like to provide you with a brief update of our goals and brief update of progress.

[26:50] Goal number one, which is advising the council on historic resources that should be added

[26:55] to inventory as well as building greater awareness of the city of Edmonton historical issues

[27:01] and civic heritage policies while communicating about emergent issues and priorities with the council.

[27:07] Included in this year's work on goal number one is our historical resources, review panel,

[27:13] the HRRP evaluated and then added six historic buildings and one landscape to the inventory.

[27:20] The board also advised Council on five other heritage preservation issues through letters to the council members and discussions with our council advisor.

[27:29] Goal number two is supporting the preservation and promotion of built heritage in Edmonton.

[27:36] The progress on goal number two included the hosting of the historical plaques presentation

[27:41] for the eight designated properties, as I've mentioned before.

[27:45] During the ceremony, David Johnson of the Heritage Conservation Unit also conducted an

[27:51] information session on the preservation of historic buildings and the designation process,

[27:56] which I think was very important and really well accepted by the good crowd at St. Luke's.

[28:04] Goal number three is supporting Edmonton's history. Work completed on this goal included

[28:09] adding content to the Board's website, detailing structures, neighborhoods, and architectural

[28:15] styles found in Edmonton historic resources. Our policy and planning committee has been working on

[28:20] two new projects, one to map the Edmonton's hidden histories, and another to build the network

[28:26] comparative to organizations to meet and share experiences. Work on these projects will continue

[28:32] this coming year. Goal number four is to support our historian Lorieette. We provide ongoing

[28:39] support for Donna, who is I think in the crowd, and she's going to do a short presentation after

[28:44] this. We provide her with she provides us with regular updates of her extremely busy work,

[28:50] And you can see her, she's sent in a report too.

[28:55] And now I'll give you a brief overview of the 2025 work plan of the Edmonton Historical Board.

[29:01] While the main goals of the board remain the same,

[29:04] here are some of the specific projects and work that we plan on conducting in the coming year.

[29:09] Continue to work on the collaboration with the Edmonton Heritage Council and other local historical groups.

[29:15] With the city of Edmonton's assistance, we have looked at the folks of both groups

[29:19] and will examine different ways to work together more closely in the future.

[29:24] Relationships are building, and I see this will conclude with both groups being stronger and more efficient.

[29:31] We will continue to add to the Edmonton Historical Properties inventory.

[29:35] I see this is one of the most important tasks that EHB does.

[29:38] In the past few years, the total number of properties on the inventory has decreased due to the amount of demolition of building on the inventory,

[29:47] compared to the newly added buildings.

[29:48] We must find new processes to add to this inventory.

[29:54] We also plan for this historical plaque presentation again on July 9th.

[30:00] 2020, 25, so mark your calendars and we're going to complete phase 1 of our historical mapping project.

[30:07] And we will continue the update and revisions to our website.

[30:12] In conclusion, I'd like to thank all of city council, and especially our council advisor for the past few years and Stevenson,

[30:20] and also Sarah Hamilton, our new advisor for their work and dedication. Really appreciate their time. I understand how busy you guys are.

[30:28] I'd like to see the City of Edmonton continue their support in preserving bill

[30:33] heritage and especially in the designation of city owned buildings such as the

[30:39] Peter Hemingway Leisure Center that is just gone over in the midst of some

[30:44] heavy renovations and rehabilitation right now. Thanks for listening and I'm

[30:49] open for questions now.

[30:52] Thank you so much. Thank you Steve. And you just might need to mute. There we go.

[30:57] So any questions from committee members or council members?

[31:05] Councillor Stevenson.

[31:06] It's thank you very much and thanks for the presentation and the ongoing work that you and the board are undertaking.

[31:16] Just to quickly to clerks are we can we ask of the whole delegation so both staff and I guess everyone's.

[31:22] Okay. Perfect. Well, Steve, maybe just starting with you.

[31:32] What I, you have mentioned, and

[31:34] you know, really pleased to hear about the additional collaboration that you've been doing

[31:38] with Heritage Council. I see that there's sort of listed as a partner in stakeholder and

[31:43] goal. One, just wondering what, what has come of conversations to to work more closely as

[31:49] organization to the point of potentially sort of amalgamating into that organization or the

[31:54] two organizations kind of coming together in a more formal way.

[32:00] I think the latest was that we will meet together as a group and I believe that, I mean,

[32:11] I don't want to take anything away from David's presentation, but I believe that he's suggesting

[32:19] that we have, or he has a member on Edmonton Heritage Council, that would be a non-bullying

[32:25] member from EHB. We certainly could do the same for the Edmonton Heritage Board.

[32:34] Oh, interesting. Can you mute, sorry, there's some funny feedback.

[32:41] That's interesting, so the

[32:42] idea with that be sort of a precursor to, again, so I guess my question is, is this idea continuing to be pursued in a sort of formal way?

[32:55] Yeah, we, like I said, we had somebody from the city working with us in the little in the last few months, and so we're still working on it, but yeah, we're definitely looking at different ways to work closely together.

[33:09] Okay, well then maybe maybe just shifting to members of administration who maybe on the line I just want to understand the implications of having the

[33:23] The working groups with the subcommittees and so do the committees have to meet in public is that part of the like the subcommittees sorry

[33:31] Yes, yes, they do and and has administration done in analysis in terms of the the resource implications

[33:41] and you know, just thoughts on adding those

[33:43] committees from a capacity perspective.

[33:48] Roger, do you want to comment on that one?

[33:51] Roger, we can see if Catherine Ivoney, our city

[33:53] archivist, could probably provide more insight on

[33:55] the impacts of those committees.

[33:57] Yeah, the, um, the, um, the

[33:59] subcommittees are staffed by either Mitchell Laurenberg,

[34:01] who is the coordinator for the, for the

[34:03] eminent stroke aboard or myself.

[34:06] Um, it's certainly something that we

[34:07] can handle and I have

[34:09] continue to support the committees that meet prior to the board meeting monthly.

[34:14] Okay, thank you for that.

[34:16] And then Steve mentioned some staff who've been working with them and Heritage Council

[34:21] about that closer working relationship is who who was that and are you on the line?

[34:29] I don't think they are, but they are part of our community services partnership group and

[34:33] they are they work with the Heritage Council as well as the historical board on other matters

[34:38] as well, so this is just an added component of the work with those two agencies.

[34:46] Okay, and so just from your perspective, is there some of that active work being done

[34:54] in terms of, like is there going to be a report done looked at the opportunity for these two

[34:59] groups to eventually become one?

[35:02] Yeah, I believe there's an interim report in place and they are going to continue to work

[35:08] work with groups and this circle resources group as well around this circle resources plan

[35:17] that's coming out in the future.

[35:21] And then maybe Steve, I just heard you mention the Peter Hemingway pool.

[35:26] I think that's a really exciting project and obviously a really important city asset.

[35:31] It's also a heritage asset.

[35:33] Is that, am I understanding correctly that that building will get a heritage designation as the renovations are completing?

[35:44] No, right now that is not in the plan. We would like that of course, but as far as I know that is not in the plan.

[35:53] Okay, well, I'm just starting at a time, but I'll maybe come back to our admin team about that. Thank you.

[36:00] Thank you, Councillor Hamilton.

[36:03] Thank you.

[36:04] I just want to thank you for your presentation.

[36:09] And it's always a pleasure to, you know, interact with the historical board.

[36:17] One of the things I feel, and I was noting your correspondence, the meeting to council this year,

[36:25] You, the historical board, I think historically, has felt the need to take a position on certain

[36:36] demolitions.

[36:36] And I'm wondering, are you still feeling that pressure, are you, are you choosing to take

[36:44] those positions sort of strategically if you could, if you could speak to that a little bit

[36:50] more?

[36:54] I'm not sorry, I don't quite understand you.

[36:59] I noted that in the correspondence you submitted to Council, for instance, you've taken a position on the role of a museum.

[37:10] Which we don't own, but is I think a lot of people feel it's a building where the historical designation and would be a travesty to lose.

[37:23] and you've also taken positions on things that are with you.

[37:30] Then the municipal preview, I'm wondering how you're deciding to take your positions.

[37:37] I think those decisions are made at our main board meeting. You know, might come up through

[37:45] one of the committees, but then discuss it or board meeting and then there's basically a vote on whether

[37:53] not we should write a letter to the counselors yourself and show that, you know, we are

[38:03] recommending support from the council on it. So, yeah, and I feel very strongly about

[38:09] the Royal Board of Museum or the former Royal Board of Museum. And especially the fact that

[38:15] there have been some promises for discussions and it seems like the promises didn't happen

[38:20] But I think that referred to the latter, too,

[38:26] is just some discussions with the problems.

[38:29] But we know that we don't have authority,

[38:32] but we wanted to certainly voice our opinion about it.

[38:37] Maybe I'll switch positions a little bit,

[38:40] or switch, switch my line of questioning a little bit now.

[38:46] You think you brought up that the city needs

[38:48] do a better job in terms of designing our own buildings and I'm glad you mentioned the Peter

[38:56] Hemingway Pool. I think that leads into a longer, larger discussion about the next

[39:03] launch of buildings that aside from Wallinsit but that sort of mid-century architecture and

[39:12] wondering if you could tell us a little bit about what you see or what the historical board

[39:18] sees as a risk to the city in terms of losing our next launch of assets, historical assets.

[39:29] I just think the risk is showing the council and the city of Edmonton really do believe in

[39:38] preserving art historic buildings and art history. So is there a class or is there a

[39:47] a place you'd like a class of building or a place you'd like us to look or pay a particular

[39:52] attention to in terms of where we might lose those assets? I don't think there's a class of building

[40:01] right now. I mean there's a lot of assets in Hamilton that are definitely at risk. Now

[40:09] are they owned by the city of Hamilton? Not necessarily. I'm probably worried about other ones

[40:15] that are not owned by the city and but there are some by the city. I think that just showing that

[40:22] or designating city on properties shows that that intent and that the counselors are really

[40:31] concern about preservation of buildings or build heritage in the city of Hamilton.

[40:38] Great, thank you, my questions there, thank you.

[40:40] Thank you, Councillor Tang.

[40:43] Yeah, great, thank you.

[40:45] Thank you very much for all the work that the committee has undertaken.

[40:50] You've had a busy year, see all the motions past, et cetera.

[40:53] I think my question is more around the subcommittees that you are requesting.

[41:00] So your current status is you don't have any of those in the as a group, the entire board.

[41:06] Make some of those decisions and you feel a subcommittee approach might be more efficient.

[41:14] No, those communities have been around for as long as I've been part of the Hamilton historical board,

[41:21] but since the changes in the policies that we are asked to ask for,

[41:26] them so we have asked for them. So they're all very important and we are, I mean, our board meetings

[41:33] last from anywhere from two to three hours. I mean, the longest has been three hours. Usually

[41:41] it's a little over two hours. If we didn't have the subcommittees, I don't want to guess how long

[41:48] the board meetings would be, so, and I mean, they go from five to seven, more five to eight.

[41:56] Right. And then, but the subcommies, the historical plaques committee does me, you know, regularly, almost monthly,

[42:08] and planning or deciding on the plaques, and then, of course, doing the planning for the presentations,

[42:14] and then also the web page work that we've been doing, so that's been added.

[42:20] So that's been very important, it's a very busy meeting.

[42:25] The historical resources review panel, that is the panel that actually decides on which

[42:33] buildings go on the inventory and then gives recommendations to the board, which I think

[42:41] is extremely important and I don't think it could be done within the meeting.

[42:45] That can happen each month but depending on how many buildings or if we have buildings to review.

[42:55] And then...

[42:56] I appreciate it.

[42:57] It's okay.

[42:58] I think my question is more just around.

[43:00] Like essentially the request is to come and take that structure moving forward.

[43:07] Okay, maybe I just do a administration and wondering if you can just apologies because I feel like it's been a while since we talked about the subcommittee policy.

[43:18] Can you just remind me what that was?

[43:24] Yes, so I can for sure, so essentially what it was is the council has to approve the use of subcommittees and it's done annually.

[43:30] So these requests aren't necessarily new requests that could be continuing requests, but it's done in an analysis.

[43:35] Okay, and whereas in this case, this is an annual request, but it's just simply that each of the advisory body can just like strike one up on their own, because it does relate to resourcing, but if this is a structure that's being in place for a while, the resourcing stays the same.

[43:54] and it sounds like from earlier Q&A, the staff can manage it.

[43:59] Okay, that's good.

[44:02] I think that answers my question.

[44:05] I think similarly, I feel like this conversation

[44:08] throughout between the Historical Society and the Heritage Council

[44:12] has been in words for some times.

[44:15] I'm sorry, we're not hearing your presentation today,

[44:19] but I look forward to seeing that in the inbox

[44:21] and I also would like to echo Councillor Stevenson just to see that conversation a bit more

[44:27] formalized. I see references to it in your report, but I think the formalized conversation

[44:33] will be helpful. That's it. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Tang. Not seeing any further questions

[44:38] on the board. I might go to Councillor Hamilton if you're interested in putting the recommendation on

[44:42] the floor. Yes, I'll move the recommendation that this be received for information.

[44:50] Maybe we could just...

[44:51] Is there another recommendation?

[44:53] What's the wording up on the board?

[44:56] There you go.

[44:57] Yep.

[44:57] The advantage of the struggles, right?

[45:00] What was in the report? Anyway, that the Ementon Historical Board's request to establish for a subcommence for the 2025 work plan has outlined the attachment three of the March 10, 2025 Office of the City Clerk Report. Be approved.

[45:16] Seconder? Second.

[45:19] We'll buy Councilor Hamilton, seconded by Councilor Stevenson.

[45:22] Councilor Hamilton, would you like to introduce it all?

[45:27] I mean, I think this reflects the discussion here today.

[45:32] And the establishment allowing the continuation of force of communities will allow

[45:37] the official report to make the best use of their time when they meet in every month.

[45:43] great. And I'm realizing just in terms of process going forward, we'll ensure that we're putting

[45:50] this on the floor at the outset because we're reminded that we're at Council. And then any one

[45:57] to speak to this, any questions, Councillor Stevenson to speak, I assume. Yeah, thank you so much.

[46:01] I just wanted to take a few moments to thank Steve and all members of the historical board for

[46:05] the work that they do. Preservation of our build form and community character is critically important

[46:13] and I appreciate the advice that they're able to offer, not only to council, but also to

[46:18] elevate the community members who are also actively involved in preserving homes and other

[46:24] historic buildings. The plaque presentation is always a really exciting evening where people

[46:30] get to celebrate their participation in our historic city. I think the ongoing conversations

[46:39] about the relationship between the historical board and heritage council are really important and I hope

[46:44] to continue to see those advancing. For me, it comes down to thinking through which structure

[46:49] best supports the work of the historical board. You know, I see huge opportunity with heritage

[46:56] council in terms of the resources, the staff resources they have to help strengthen the work

[47:02] of the historical board, which is largely driven by incredibly dedicated and hardworking

[47:07] volunteers, and also an opportunity to avoid some of the complications like having to get

[47:15] Council approval for subcommittees, you know, looking for ways that there can be more

[47:21] flexibility to support the great work that's happening.

[47:23] So look forward to those ongoing conversations and further discussions on that.

[47:26] Thank you.

[47:27] Thank you.

[47:28] Councillor Piquette.

[47:30] Yeah, thank you.

[47:31] I just want to thank the board for all their hard work and I'm just a part of this motion

[47:36] understanding that, you know, as ever, we're going to be cautious of a scope creep, but having

[47:43] said that I actually do appreciate the way in on the old museum.

[47:48] I think that's integral, and something that Edmontonians are very, very clear about they

[47:54] would love to see that preserved.

[47:56] And last, there's really great neon sign up in my ward at the old Burger Baron that's being

[48:04] point down, man, if we could preserve that and put it in the museum, that'd be great.

[48:07] That's all I have to say. Thank you.

[48:10] Thanks, Councillor Forquette. Councillor Hamilton to close.

[48:14] I have nothing further to say. Just thanks again to the historical port for the presentation.

[48:18] And I'm sorry that we couldn't hear from the Heritage Council today. I had a great meeting

[48:22] with David last week and hopefully members of Council will be offered the opportunity to meet with them.

[48:27] We can too. Thank you.

[48:29] Excellent. Please vote.

[48:37] We have all the votes.

[48:39] Is this way the vote?

[48:44] That's carried. Great. Well thank you so much to you. Really appreciate you being with us today and and thanks again to the entire

[48:51] I've been into historical board for your dedication and commitment to our city.

[48:55] Thank you. Wonderful. So we'll move on to our next item which is the naming committee and I believe we have Matt dance with us.

[49:03] Hi Matt.

[49:07] All right, so we'll start it over to you for a brief presentation and then we'll like we have some questions for you.

[49:13] Please go ahead.

[49:16] Awesome.

[49:17] Thank you, Councillor Saludor.

[49:21] I'm glad there's a lot of social distancing here.

[49:24] Good afternoon.

[49:25] My name is Matthew Dance.

[49:26] I'm the chair of the naming committee.

[49:29] It is an honor to be here and to present the naming committees 2024 Annual Report and 2025 Work Plan.

[49:37] Before I get into the content of this report, I would like to first acknowledge the committee members and admins support that make the work of a committee possible.

[49:47] First and foremost, my amazing colleagues on the naming committee who are as interested in creating good policy and process and in building strong relationships as they are in place naming.

[49:57] It is a privilege to work with such smart and pathetic and motivated people, and certainly

[50:02] the support provided by Corey Souza and Ashley Rowan is under surpassed.

[50:07] Corey's understanding of the process and our responsibilities as we name Edmonton's civic

[50:12] assets guides each and every discussion and his memory of Edmonton's aiming history is remarkable.

[50:20] It is within this context that I am pleased to report on the accomplishments of the naming

[50:24] committee this past year.

[50:25] In my mind, the greatest achievement that we have as a committee has reflected in the relationships

[50:32] that we foster and support.

[50:35] Over the past year, we have collaborated with municipal officials, community organizations,

[50:40] indigenous leaders, and students in MQ and universities, arts, and cultural management

[50:45] program to ensure that Edmonton's public spaces tell the stories of those who have shaped

[50:50] and continue to shape our city.

[50:53] This is most evident in the renaming of the novel All-over Neighborhood.

[50:57] We are proud of the community-led renaming process that resulted in

[51:01] we claim to end a creename that reflects that means circle of friends.

[51:06] The process that led to this name is a model that we are closely looking at as we develop

[51:11] our own renaming process.

[51:14] In addition to Requanto End, the Menemic Committee approved 35 place names

[51:18] Reflective of the diversity and cultures, floor and fauna that comprise Edmonton's Irvine,

[51:23] Mosaic.

[51:24] Looking to the future, as a committee, we are committed to tackling some big projects in the coming year.

[51:30] We will continue to support administration as they complete a place-named data set to be published on the open data portal.

[51:37] As a side note, I started that data set over a decade ago as a grad student and it is extremely gratifying to see this massive piece of work being completed.

[51:45] We as a committee will begin work on the development of a culturally sensitive community

[51:50] involved renaming process based on the experience of the Equentuin Leadership Circle.

[51:57] When the government sent your LRT station, LRT station, renaming process launches, the

[52:02] naming committee will have representation at the table.

[52:07] We will continue to work on building the appropriate relationships so that we can discuss

[52:11] and develop an indigenous naming process or framework.

[52:15] And finally, the naming committee is working to incorporate recommendations made by

[52:19] McEwen University's A-Gad 301 policy project as we start thinking through revisions

[52:24] to the naming policy which is scheduled to be renewed in 2026.

[52:30] The naming committee remains committed to the principles reflected in the naming policy. Specifically, the principles of engagement and inclusion underpinned by robust process, ensuring that every decision is made through deliberation and community.

[52:45] As such, we are aligning our work with your vision for a city.

[52:51] Great. Thank you so much for the overview. I'll now go to questions from colleagues and just a reminder if there's anyone who would like to put the recommendation on the floor.

[52:59] We are at Council and that would be appreciated.

[53:12] Yeah, I'm happy to move, so I'm just pulling up the report for the actual wording as it just received from hermation.

[53:21] Yeah, okay.

[53:22] The March 10th Office of the City Clerk Report be received from information.

[53:30] Second.

[53:31] It's great, thank you.

[53:33] And I'm just trying to get myself on the Board for questions.

[53:36] Councillor, now could you be able to take the chair?

[53:39] Thank you for the presentation and really appreciate you being here with us today and for all the work that you're doing.

[53:46] I actually just had a bit of a process question and hoping you can provide some clarity.

[53:53] I have had some questions bubbling up from community members just around the process for having conversations about renaming of different forms of infrastructure in our city.

[54:02] And, yeah, wondering if you can just help me understand what that looks like and the best place for people to get more information.

[54:12] Great, thank you for the question, Councillor Savador.

[54:16] The process for renaming, I think at this point follows a pretty standard naming process where we're looking for someone to lead a community engagement session or multiple sessions as they did with

[54:32] We're going to win and to develop an engagement process that would include promoting names that the

[54:45] renaming could be switched to or renamed and then a process of name selection and then reporting through the naming

[54:52] committee and depending on the size of the asset and the nature of the asset it may come to city council.

[54:59] Okay, that's really helpful so I guess having having some form of a community entity or

[55:04] body that would initiate that work has to happen on the ground before it would make it

[55:10] any further conversation is that correct?

[55:12] Yeah, so for instance, the Oliver community league spearheaded the their renaming process

[55:18] and we're very inclusive in terms of who they had on their advisory board, it was an indigenous

[55:27] led circle that was looking to get all the voices that would be reflected in the community and

[55:33] impacted by the name change. And then through that process build some support for an option or

[55:42] a suite of options that they would be able to then choose through a vote or through consensus building

[55:47] as to what the new name would be. Great. Well thank you so much for helping me just better

[55:54] I'll return the chair.

[55:56] Thank you.

[55:56] And I'll go to Councillor Stevenson.

[55:59] Thank you very much.

[56:00] I appreciate the great work that the naming committee has done.

[56:05] The overview provided in terms of initiating those conversations.

[56:09] Just trying to think of, you know,

[56:12] I think that community based approach is a really important principle.

[56:17] I'm thinking about some larger city assets where there's maybe not a sort of a natural local community.

[56:27] Just wondering what something like that would look like in instance like that for a process.

[56:32] Could it still be just a broad community movement or is there a need for a sort of local tie?

[56:41] I think that's a really pertinent question, Councillor Stevenson. I think I can think of several

[56:48] large city assets that are potentially at risk for a renaming process. If risk is the right word.

[57:00] I don't think that we have a clear picture of what that process looks like. What would it look like to have a

[57:11] the citizens and I clearly don't have an answer, I don't have a clear answer for that right

[57:16] now, but it is something that is on the radar and the work plan of the naming committee,

[57:21] and it's something that we're going to be tackling this year and probably into next year

[57:26] as we try to figure out what that looks like. Great. Great. I think it's excellent to

[57:31] have some guide posts to help us along and appreciate that you're taking that on. Thanks.

[57:42] Thank you so much for the presentation and be here to answer our questions.

[57:49] So I have two questions.

[57:51] The first question is more related to the process.

[57:56] So, as the name of the community may know,

[58:00] and then my office reached out and then from 2002 to 2003 and before.

[58:07] And as a reason for that, is our word name and then is a longest name, 21-nader's name.

[58:16] The meaning constitutes reach out to my office and to see the cannot even spell,

[58:22] how to spell, remember how to spell and also the cannot pronounce any exact possible.

[58:28] to keep the name and at the same time to add a word like a longer and for them to really

[58:37] to clearly identify which words they are in. So I don't know what's that process is that

[58:45] at the blaming committee level is at the council level. So can you provide some

[58:52] take them, you'll start on that.

[58:57] I counsel the race, thank you for the question, that's a very good question.

[59:04] The city has done a remarkable job at posting pronunciation guides and phonetic guides on

[59:12] their website.

[59:15] I think anything that would go over and above that in terms of supporting the name pronunciation

[59:22] is something that perhaps City Council would take on or it's something that we could probably

[59:28] work into our work plan. I'm not clear on what that would look like.

[59:33] Okay, so I think it's not about the assistance and how to pronounce and have been provided.

[59:40] The city did a great job to provide all those how we pronounce the word name there.

[59:46] And it is just what I heard from many constituents try to say,

[59:51] go ahead and add the number after the name.

[59:55] And so, there's their point is not to change, and then it's just add.

[1:00:00] Number, afternoon, to make sure everybody know where we're from. I wouldn't, they have a difficult

[1:00:05] problem. So I don't want to bring their voice, I heard, and from people I represent in that area,

[1:00:13] because that's long as the name 21, later it's done. To name a committee and I want to put that

[1:00:20] on the table and in front of us. So that's why I'm asking that question, but I'm happy to follow

[1:00:26] see how we can work on that way.

[1:00:33] Yes, thank you, Councillor Rice.

[1:00:34] I think following up would be appropriate.

[1:00:37] Just from a, I think, a naming process.

[1:00:41] The, um, I'm in award, uh, Cippy Winnie Wack.

[1:00:45] And I know that the boundaries of award Cippy Winnie Wack

[1:00:47] don't overlay precisely with the boundaries of award five.

[1:00:51] So I don't know that recalling a previous award name would be appropriate.

[1:00:55] given that that word in its form doesn't exist anymore, but I think it's something that we should perhaps explore together

[1:01:02] to see what a good solution would be.

[1:01:06] That's actually a very good point.

[1:01:07] Even for the word I represent, it's not only more than 10.

[1:01:11] And as some of the reference from word minus, as well as a boundary change,

[1:01:16] I just want to get to see the right curve and the people really from the word

[1:01:20] the Epico-Calipiol, say, can understand and then

[1:01:24] why certain factors needs to be conserved.

[1:01:28] But thank you for that answer.

[1:01:31] Also, the next question I look at is a 235 work plan

[1:01:35] and for the name committee.

[1:01:37] I did not see the ending plan regarding the two station,

[1:01:42] 30 station, before the Capital Nine South Extension

[1:01:46] project.

[1:01:47] And it is that name or writing name for the two stations or they will be in the later work plan for the later year.

[1:02:01] Is it fair for me to ask our admin support queries use for some direction on that question?

[1:02:09] Yeah, is a capital 9-cell extension project?

[1:02:13] There are two stations that will be included in this project.

[1:02:17] I'm not sure there are two stations, the name is already finished,

[1:02:21] and because I did not see in the 25 award plan.

[1:02:26] So thanks for the question, Councillor RISE.

[1:02:29] Those would be treated like a normal naming application.

[1:02:33] So they wouldn't be part of the naming committee's work plan.

[1:02:36] They would be treated like any other naming

[1:02:39] application. They have not been submitted to us yet if I'm understanding the stations I believe

[1:02:48] you're referring to. If that's in case those future names have not been submitted to the

[1:02:53] naming committee. Okay thank you. That's all my questions. Thank you again. Yeah what was it work?

[1:03:00] I think is the answer to the cat?

[1:03:04] Yeah, thank you very much.

[1:03:09] So does the naming committee worry about how many syllables

[1:03:14] are in a name when they name something?

[1:03:22] Not typically.

[1:03:23] It's not something that typically comes up in conversation.

[1:03:28] Because something like Sir Winston Churchill Square.

[1:03:32] I can be a lot of syllables, right?

[1:03:36] It certainly is.

[1:03:40] So are you aware when the next board boundary review is?

[1:03:45] No, I'm not.

[1:03:47] Okay.

[1:03:48] As far as I know, it's over two years.

[1:03:51] And so I could be over two years, two election cycles.

[1:04:02] But at that time, when word boundary shift, sometimes there's a recommendation to change the name of the award, which is what happened last time when I'm going to assume is probably what's going to happen next time is it?

[1:04:17] So you're understanding?

[1:04:20] As far as I understand that is what the process looks like, Councillor.

[1:04:26] Okay.

[1:04:27] All right.

[1:04:33] Thank you.

[1:04:33] That's it?

[1:04:34] Thank you.

[1:04:35] Councilor Tang?

[1:04:37] Yeah.

[1:04:37] Thank you for being here.

[1:04:39] Very, very interesting input with some of the questions.

[1:04:42] I want to follow up on some of the earlier questions around public infrastructure.

[1:04:46] Renaming.

[1:04:47] And, you know, I feel like every few years we get a big push from the public about certain assets.

[1:04:53] named at a certain time in history where naming after people is more the common practice.

[1:05:01] And now we have a kind of a very different direction.

[1:05:04] And that, you know, I think York committee has been doing a lot of great work on.

[1:05:08] But I imagine those conversations come up.

[1:05:11] You know, and I think, like I say, every few years when those push comes forward,

[1:05:15] they often appear in the form of petitions and whatnot.

[1:05:18] I guess I'm wondering Matt, or even Corey, if you have any advice for those who are spearheading those.

[1:05:28] Because I think we try to direct folks to look at the current policy and look at some of the process that you've mentioned.

[1:05:37] But I guess I'm curious about your internal dialogue amongst members, and you like just advice that you might have.

[1:05:53] I think first and foremost,

[1:06:00] the process of renaming and asset in my mind is a process of relationship building and community engagement that we're interested in reflecting the diversity of the effect of community, whether it be a specific neighborhood or the entire city.

[1:06:20] And really having those potentially very hard conversations to make sure that we are on the path to choosing a correct name.

[1:06:33] And in doing so, we're looking at community building.

[1:06:38] And we don't make policy by petition.

[1:06:42] And I think that's something that we need to keep first and foremost in our mind.

[1:06:48] and we are always happy and willing to reach out to the people who are starting a petition

[1:06:57] or who are interested in renaming assets to help guide them on what that process looks like.

[1:07:04] So one of my goals as the chair is to increase the profile of the naming committee

[1:07:11] and to really build an understanding of what it is, what we do, but also how we do it.

[1:07:17] Because that is almost more important than the outcome of the name, right?

[1:07:22] So, for instance, with the ward renaming that occurred when the ward boundaries changed.

[1:07:30] We were gifted names. And those names are very important, and she'd be held in honor. But how do we support

[1:07:37] how do we support those names? How do we support people understanding where those names came from and the

[1:07:42] importance of those names? If we're going to be renaming a civic asset, how do we support that type of

[1:07:48] conversation? Yeah, thank you. That's very helpful and seeing renaming as a process of community buildings,

[1:07:56] it's easy to sign off on the petition but much harder to have some of those really tough

[1:08:00] conversations and if people are truly intent on that, they should participate and maybe

[1:08:06] leave some of those conversations to, right?

[1:08:11] And just further to that, we also don't want to be in a place where we're naming assets out of

[1:08:15] anger and we need viable options, you know, saying that we don't want a name isn't the positive

[1:08:24] about come that we're looking for.

[1:08:26] Yeah, really appreciate that.

[1:08:27] Corrid, do you have anything you want to add?

[1:08:32] The one thing I would just add regarding renaming

[1:08:35] that isn't talked about as much,

[1:08:38] and this relates to roads.

[1:08:41] It's under section 10 in the naming policy.

[1:08:44] And it states that if there is a request to renaming a road

[1:08:48] that 75% of property owners and business owners

[1:08:52] directly affected and must support the renaming of that road,

[1:08:56] And that applicant's are responsible for the cost of associated with the approved re-name roadway.

[1:09:03] So that's important to also share that language when it comes to road names and change your road names.

[1:09:09] Because obviously the impact addresses and business names and all the different letter heads and paperwork that's related to that address.

[1:09:19] In addition to what Matt said, we're always happy to meet with people, organizations to discuss

[1:09:28] a potential renaming and we could also guide them on next steps if they are truly passionate

[1:09:34] about moving forward with renaming and as Matt mentioned regarding the other question that

[1:09:40] counselor and Stevenson asks about these larger assets, that's something that we're discussing

[1:09:47] in the next two years as we really look at enhancing our renaming policy, as well as working with our indigenous partners and developing those processes.

[1:09:59] Thank you so. Thank you both so much for that. It was very helpful.

[1:10:02] Great. Thank you so much. So, not seeing anyone else on the board for question. This is anyone who would like to speak to this.

[1:10:15] If not, Councillor Rutherford to close. Or, oh,

[1:10:21] Councillor Rutherford go ahead.

[1:10:23] Yeah. Thank you. I feel like I say this every year about just how important the naming

[1:10:29] committee is in terms of place making and identity creating. And I love the shift to

[1:10:36] floor and fauna and names that are not related to people because people are flawed.

[1:10:42] Everybody has strengths and everybody has weaknesses, right? And so, and we sometimes history

[1:10:47] reveals those strengths and those weaknesses more and more. So I really like that that change,

[1:10:52] but I also really like the process and the things that we're doing to really think about renaming

[1:10:57] and how we create that place-based identity.

[1:11:03] I feel like I want to tell a story right now because

[1:11:07] I think it's pertinent to some of the questions that were raised. I've been asked by many in my

[1:11:12] to the same thing. Why can't we just put the numbers on the word names and I actually explain

[1:11:18] the thing. Well actually the boundaries are quite significantly different. So it would

[1:11:21] actually cause probably more confusion to put those on. But one of the things that I did recently

[1:11:26] my office is we worked with Elder Edna who gifted the name for Word and Elnic, the in New

[1:11:34] name and we made buttons and those buttons have word and elnic breath of life and then I actually

[1:11:42] has the full name of the city of Edmonton and Cree on those buttons as well and I have been going

[1:11:49] and handing them out whenever I'm out at community events and out in community and it has created

[1:11:57] such beautiful conversation with residents about the meaning of the name, about how to pronounce

[1:12:04] it, about why it was important for my reconciliation perspective to consider this. And it's so

[1:12:15] much so that they become so popular the request I was getting that I have to reorder more

[1:12:21] for our office because we've just been getting so much. So I think that it is incumbent on

[1:12:27] And this is an example where I was hearing that.

[1:12:29] And so I said, how do I address that?

[1:12:32] And so one of the things, for me, that I did,

[1:12:35] is I said, let's start to have those conversations.

[1:12:37] Let's start to share the message about this.

[1:12:39] And I've been privileged and honored to get to know

[1:12:43] and meet elder, edna, on many occasions.

[1:12:50] And to understand the true what you mentioned,

[1:12:53] I think, is really important around naming

[1:12:54] that they gifted those names,

[1:12:56] that there was a lot of ceremony and a lot of work in that circle of elders to really choose

[1:13:07] names that would represent the land and the history in a significant and meaningful way.

[1:13:13] And I worry about reverting to or this conversation of reverting to numbers and the undermining

[1:13:20] it does of the true gift that those names were, maybe, you know, the button for so popular

[1:13:28] with from our office, maybe this should be something that we should just have as a city

[1:13:32] for all the words, right?

[1:13:34] Maybe it doesn't have to be incumbent on one council or maybe we should have those word names,

[1:13:40] but I know we weren't here today to talk about word names, we were here to talk about

[1:13:43] the great work, the naming committee does and you do really great work hearing about just

[1:13:49] your volume of assets you are naming in your annual report and the work that you're doing

[1:13:57] is just outstanding. So please keep it up and continue to do the great place making work you're

[1:14:02] already doing. Thank you. Thank you, please vote.

[1:14:13] Yes, my your turn off. Thank you,

[1:14:15] you got to the riverford.

[1:14:19] We have all the votes. Please display the vote.

[1:14:27] That's carried. Thank you so

[1:14:29] much. And thank you for being with us, Mad. Really appreciate it. And I really appreciate

[1:14:33] it again. Your dedication to community building here in Edmonton.

[1:14:39] Okay. Next up is the Edmonton

[1:14:41] Slutes Committee. And Brian Hodgson is Brian online. He is. I'm here. Hi, Brian. How are you?

[1:14:50] I'm Wilson. Good. Okay. So we'll turn the floor over to you for a brief presentation.

[1:14:59] We're

[1:15:02] Okay. Well, to the acting mayor and council members present, it's a pleasure for me to speak to you again about what the evidence looks committee does.

[1:15:12] You have the report, and I could presume that all of you will have gone through it, so I'm not going to go into any great detail.

[1:15:21] I would remark to you that the budget of the Anderson's Committee is 0.0022 of the overall

[1:15:29] city budget, which amounts to some $62,000, so it is not a huge sum.

[1:15:36] The purpose and the mandate of the committee is to provide advice and advance the notion that

[1:15:44] city recognition initiatives for military veterans and their families, it's pretty important

[1:15:49] and to provide the leadership as champions with the military veterans and their families

[1:15:55] and give recognition to military members and veterans of their families through a variety

[1:16:02] of collaborations with public private and through non-profit organizations.

[1:16:06] So, to put the Edmonton Military in context, the Royal Edmonton Regiment, which is a reserve

[1:16:16] unit of the Canadian Army, has deployed a mortar platoon to lack the of some 40 or 50 soldiers.

[1:16:26] So, these are individuals who have taken time off their work or studies to further volunteer

[1:16:32] to serve their country, and you will know that Canada has an impressive presence in Latvia.

[1:16:40] A Canadian is heading up a multinational brigade, and in that brigade there is a battle group

[1:16:45] which is being led by Lieutenant Colonel Darin Gray, the large South-Coneous Horse,

[1:16:52] and that battle group comprises nine different national components.

[1:16:56] So, you are the events of the last couple of weeks internationally,

[1:17:05] bear upon the families, military families in this city.

[1:17:14] Our folks in Latvia, it is difficult to predict how things would play out,

[1:17:20] given the current geopolitical situation.

[1:17:24] for any number of reasons, and I won't go into the details on this.

[1:17:29] But the Ukraine area is, to say it's unsettled,

[1:17:36] would be something of an understeak.

[1:17:40] So it's within that context that eminencellutes supports

[1:17:45] our military and their families.

[1:17:47] certainly the families of those who have military members who are serving abroad.

[1:17:57] You know, the committee very briefly has eight members appointed by City Council,

[1:18:03] nine from very, are eight from various organizations and nine municipal members.

[1:18:08] And we're up one, we have a member from Warrenville.

[1:18:12] So we have, it's very much a regional entity and it's very collegial when it's discussions

[1:18:19] way we do the business.

[1:18:24] So some significant events that I would mention very briefly, and it's in the report last

[1:18:30] year on the first of April, in fact, was a hundredth anniversary of the founding of the Royal

[1:18:35] Canadian Air Force.

[1:18:36] and eminence, so it was very active in promoting recognition of that.

[1:18:43] We have supported any number of veterans organizations from the veterans' food bank to homes

[1:18:48] for veterans, to homes for herals, which is also housing, interim housing for veterans

[1:18:54] and through the committee members attended and supported many, many events and propagated

[1:19:02] the gospel, if I can use that expression amongst those who are at these various events.

[1:19:12] I would mention the excellent support we get from the city staff, in particular, Kate Macintosh,

[1:19:18] who I know is listening in.

[1:19:20] Julie Oford and Claire Morayette, I'm sorry, all of whom work very diligently on behalf

[1:19:29] of the Evans service committee.

[1:19:32] So, not funny, as I said, I'm not going to go any further details, but I'd be pleased to answer any questions that you may have learning what the Emerald Smoose Committee has done in 2024.

[1:19:49] Great, thank you so much. Councillor Prinspe, and if you're interested in putting the recommendation on the floor as well.

[1:19:57] Certainly, I'll do that before we start. I would like to recommend that the March 10,

[1:20:06] 2025 Office of the City Clerk Report, OCC-02866D received for information.

[1:20:16] That can.

[1:20:17] Thank you.

[1:20:20] Any have questions as well?

[1:20:22] Yes, thank you very much, Chair Hodgson, for the presentation and you did discuss how we do have troops deployed currently in Latvia.

[1:20:34] Can you give Council an idea of how many have been deployed?

[1:20:38] Just a rough idea, how many over 2024?

[1:20:47] I'm going to guess about a thousand, but what I will do, Councillor is, get the more precise

[1:20:54] figure from the military source and provide it to you and to members of Council.

[1:21:00] Right.

[1:21:01] And I would say that the normal rotation amongst the units who are deployed to Latvia

[1:21:07] is every six months.

[1:21:08] how some tours for specific individuals may be a little bit longer, but it's roughly every six

[1:21:15] months and you know, as we know, the headquarters of one Canadian mechanized brigade group

[1:21:22] is in the Edmonton, and that comprises amongst other things, two battines of the Princess

[1:21:27] Patricia's Canadian light of entry. And of course, the Lord Stratkona's horse, one field

[1:21:33] ambulance, one combat engineer, regiment and other supporting arms. So elements of those,

[1:21:38] would be deployed throughout, we're deployed throughout 2020, but I will get you the precise

[1:21:45] figures.

[1:21:46] Okay, yeah, and I agree that I think it's probably around that number, I just wanted Council

[1:21:53] to have an idea that there are significant amount of people living in the Edmonton region,

[1:21:58] you know, representing our country and it's really a huge impact on the families that are

[1:22:06] and just how important this committee is to that that's that's the reason I asked that question.

[1:22:15] And I think I think that was really the only question I have for you.

[1:22:20] I'll have some remarks in closing. I'll let my colleagues ask some other questions. Thank you.

[1:22:25] Thank you. Councillor Rutherford.

[1:22:28] Yeah, thank you.

[1:22:30] I just wanted to ask the Edmonton Salute's committee. I know that you play a role in sort of the

[1:22:38] recognition, but I've been getting a lot of inquiries and flags from veterans in grease

[1:22:46] Bobo vandalism to some of the monuments. Have you been hearing anything about this?

[1:22:52] Well, I've been reading about them, and certainly I hear from other sources because, you know,

[1:22:57] reasonably well connected in the veterans community and with other military organizations. Yes, I have.

[1:23:05] It's very disappointing, difficult and why someone would remove a plaque honoring a veteran

[1:23:14] or in some other commemoration, important commemoration. Well, we know why they're doing it.

[1:23:20] So, and in some cases, we, the Ebonus loose committee has offset a partial expense related to the theft of a plaque.

[1:23:35] Have, have you offset that with, because I see that you have somebody from Canada lands represented on the Salute's committee.

[1:23:42] But not, not anybody from like the Greenspa Community League proper.

[1:23:47] Not that I'm aware of, but if we are aware and we're approached, you know, the funding

[1:23:54] is given, or the funding request is given, every earnest consideration.

[1:23:58] So our governance model, we have a budget subcommittee that vets and examines every request

[1:24:07] for funding and it has to meet certain parameters, and this certainly would be given very earnest

[1:24:13] and ideal say favorable consideration.

[1:24:14] Sure, so I'm just wondering if maybe post meeting, I can connect with Council Prince Pay and just even make that connection between Edmonton States and the Grisball community league.

[1:24:25] Yeah, absolutely.

[1:24:27] That would be awesome. Thank you so much.

[1:24:29] And I agree, it's extremely disheartening and downright disrespectful, so I appreciate any work that we can do in collaboration on that one.

[1:24:46] Yeah, I did have another question because veterans are so important.

[1:24:51] I, there is also the veterans support of housing that's opening in the ward.

[1:24:57] I represent as well with veterans Canada.

[1:25:01] Is there a connection that's been made with Edmonton Salutes and that organization around that,

[1:25:07] the opening of that building?

[1:25:10] Are you speaking of homes for heroes or homes for veterans?

[1:25:13] So, the home surveillance is in the Northwest quarter, is that where you go?

[1:25:17] Yeah, it's on Athlone.

[1:25:19] Yeah, yeah.

[1:25:19] And, like, then, it's done this area.

[1:25:22] Yeah.

[1:25:23] We invited the head of home surveillance to make a presentation of the Edmonton's

[1:25:28] Loose Committee.

[1:25:30] And thereafter, he did come out from Ottawa.

[1:25:33] And I arranged to have a meet, one or two individuals who are well connected and who have connections

[1:25:39] into the philanthropic sector.

[1:25:42] if you will in the city,

[1:25:47] and one or two other folks who don't live in the city, but who would

[1:25:50] be supportive of what they're trying to do.

[1:25:52] So basically for for council, as you may know, council was very, or the city of eminent

[1:25:59] was very generous to find and providing some property for about 40 long-term small residences

[1:26:09] housing for homeless veterans. So this will not duplicate the homes for heros, which there are their main purposes is basically bridging housing. So I think it's a year or less with them, but this is a longer term

[1:26:30] solution to homeless veterans. And as I mentioned to the mayor, I think perhaps the last meeting or last time I presented

[1:26:39] Veterans are out of proportion as a sector within the homeless.

[1:26:48] In other words, they're proportionally more veterans

[1:26:50] who are homeless than there are for many other groups,

[1:26:54] which some people might find surprising.

[1:26:56] And that's common certainly in the UK and in the United States.

[1:27:02] So as an advocate for veterans, I'm very appreciative

[1:27:06] about the work, the good work that Council does and the civic staff and in supporting these

[1:27:13] kinds of initiatives.

[1:27:15] Great.

[1:27:15] And I just think that the purpose is when we have these new veterans join our community

[1:27:20] again, how is Edmonton Salutes, you know, making sure that they're successful in their

[1:27:27] transition to the community.

[1:27:28] But thank you so much.

[1:27:31] They're very welcome.

[1:27:32] Thank you.

[1:27:33] not seeing any other questions on the board, but anyone to speak to this before Councillor

[1:27:38] Prince Bay closes.

[1:27:43] Seeing none, Councillor Prince Bay, go ahead.

[1:27:46] Thank you, Chair, Salvador. I would just like to take this time to say thank you very much

[1:27:50] to our Chair, Brian Hodgson, for leading us and being a good example of how we can support

[1:27:56] our military. And I just want to let people know that as we discuss, there are several people

[1:28:04] within the Edmonton region, deployed at any time, can be gone six months, or at least sometimes

[1:28:11] longer, very impactful, you know, parents, spouses, caregivers being deployed, very impactful

[1:28:18] on the families, this committee is crucial in helping support and I just wanted to give

[1:28:34] I recently, one of our members on Edmonton SLU, it's recently passed away, Alex Singh.

[1:28:45] And I just wanted to give him recognition and appreciation for the work he's done on

[1:28:53] our committee.

[1:28:54] Thank you.

[1:28:57] And if I may just take a moment in my recognitions, I did not

[1:29:03] mentioned a counselor, Prince of Bay, who has been on flagging in her support of the work that

[1:29:11] evidence loots does, and she attends nearly every military function or event that in connection

[1:29:21] with veterans causes in the military, she's everywhere, and she does excellent work, and I know

[1:29:28] that she enjoys it, and she's highly respected, so she's an excellent representative of

[1:29:33] I wouldn't say City Council in that, within that milieu that I'd just mention.

[1:29:40] Great.

[1:29:41] Well, thank you for that Brian, and thank you for your thoughtful closing remarks.

[1:29:44] Councillor principay.

[1:29:46] Please vote.

[1:29:59] We have a vote.

[1:30:00] Please display the vote.

[1:30:08] That's carried. Thank you so much, everyone, and Brian, thank you for being with us today for your dedication and service.

[1:30:16] And yeah, our gratitude to the entire team at the Abentance Loots Committee for the important work that you're doing. Really appreciate it.

[1:30:22] Thank you very much.

[1:30:24] Wonderful. Okay, so we're going to move on to our next committee, which is the Abentent Design Committee, and I believe Janice Mills is online.

[1:30:35] Yes. Hi, Janice. All right. Well, thank you so much for being with us today. I appreciate

[1:30:42] you taking a time. And I see that you do have a slide deck that goes along with your presentation.

[1:30:47] So we'll get that up and ready. So we'll hand over the floor to you and we'll have some questions

[1:30:52] to follow. Please go ahead. Okay. Good afternoon. Acting Mayor, counselors and member of

[1:30:58] administration. I am Janice Mills, current chair of the Emmanton Design Committee. For simplicity,

[1:31:05] I may refer to the committee's EDC throughout my presentation. Second slide. EDC was established

[1:31:14] by City Council in 2005 with a mandate to improve the quality of urban design within the city of

[1:31:22] EDC continues to operate under by law 20673 and meets the mandate primarily through the review of private development applications and key city of emitting projects.

[1:31:36] Next slide please.

[1:31:39] This past year we have focused EDC efforts and resources on four main goals.

[1:31:46] Goal 1, reviewing development applications, this goal embraces the day-to-day efforts of the committee and actively involves all committee members.

[1:31:58] Goal 2, 3, and 4, updating the standards of procedures, updating the principles of urban design, and initiating the review of the EDC boundary, requires the continual support and effort of the EDC subcommittee.

[1:32:12] The present workload and composition of the committee does not allow for this work to be undertaken in an efficient manner with the broader committee.

[1:32:22] Establishing a subcommittee allows these actions to be undertaken in a much more focused and expedient manner. Next slide.

[1:32:32] The ongoing review of development applications, including rezoning development permits and city projects,

[1:32:40] is central to the mandate of EDC, a set out by Council.

[1:32:44] This past year, the committee has reviewed 27 development permit applications for rezoning

[1:32:50] and seven city projects.

[1:32:54] EDC's agenda and submission packages are circulated to its members and posted to the EDC

[1:33:00] website, two weeks prior to our meetings to allow members sufficient time to review and provide meaningful comments and questions during our meetings.

[1:33:10] Formal submissions coincide with development permit and rezoning applications.

[1:33:15] These are required of all projects which fall within the geographical boundary, as well as all city of Evident projects.

[1:33:22] applicants can also opt in for an informal pre-console, prior to a formal submission.

[1:33:30] These presentations which are not open to the public allow an applicant to come to EDC for

[1:33:37] preliminary advice with respect to a development that is being considered.

[1:33:42] These presentations are not part of the formal meeting and therefore no written record of

[1:33:48] portion of the meeting is act. In the opinion of the committee then formal pre-consult process

[1:33:54] is extremely valuable. Next slide. EDC in collaboration with city administration,

[1:34:03] developed standards and procedures to provide clear direction on the day-to-day functions of EDC

[1:34:09] and clearly define the roles and responsibilities of administration committee members and applicants.

[1:34:16] This work was completed under EDC 2020 to 2022 work plans and the standards and procedures were approved by the City Manager in February of 2022.

[1:34:29] At the end of this project, EDC committed to future engagement with industry stakeholders to ensure the standards and procedures were meeting their intended function.

[1:34:38] The 2024-25 goal to updating the standards and procedures fulfilled this commitment to industry.

[1:34:47] The key revisions and takeaways are introducing a mission statement, exploring a new approach to informal submissions,

[1:34:54] and providing new guidance on committee recommendations to better focus the scope of review.

[1:35:01] Next slide.

[1:35:03] Updating the principles of urban design, the principles of urban design, guide the committee's ongoing review of DP approvals, and we're originally established during the formation of the committee in 2005.

[1:35:17] The review of these principles was identified by industry stakeholders as key action during the preparation of the standards and procedures in 2020 and 2022.

[1:35:27] After completing two phases of industry engagement, including online surveys and one-on-one interviews,

[1:35:35] EDC in collaboration with City Administration, developed new EDC principles of urban design,

[1:35:43] which articulate six key principles that better reflect best practice and align with both Connect Edmonton and the City Plan.

[1:35:51] To complement these new principles, the committee has also developed a new EDC submission guide, currently in its final draft form, that includes improved submission and evaluation processes.

[1:36:05] The updated principles of urban design were presented to urban planning committee on Mark 4th of 2025 and key feedback is being reviewed.

[1:36:14] The intent is to implement these updated principles of urban design and the submission guide with the new EDC term beginning in May of 2025.

[1:36:25] Next slide.

[1:36:28] So an overview of the new principles of urban design.

[1:36:31] The first two authentic and meaningful celebrating people and place cultures and natural and built heritage will promoting the evolution of culture for generations to come.

[1:36:44] Healthy and inclusive, creating those safe and welcoming spaces for people of all cultures

[1:36:50] in comes ages and abilities in genders.

[1:36:54] Next slide.

[1:36:56] Attractive in human scales, creating comfortable, well-scaled public spaces that support

[1:37:01] walkability and create a memorable city image, connected and walkable, integrating the movement of people

[1:37:09] within sites and public spaces across the multitude of modes, systems, and scales with a focus

[1:37:15] on walking and wheeling.

[1:37:17] Next slide, resilient and sustainable, facilitating urbanization that supports energy transition

[1:37:24] and climate resilience, and reduces our ecological footprint.

[1:37:30] We've been providing enabling diverse activities, amenities, and uses that contribute to lively people, focus, places. Next slide.

[1:37:41] Review of the EDC boundary and scope of review. The EDC by law describes a geographical boundary, which is the key trigger for the review of development applications by EDC.

[1:37:55] Similar to the update to the principles of urban design, the review of this boundary was identified by industry during our engagement and preparation of the standards and procedures.

[1:38:06] The scope of work completed this past year is limited only to the review of the current boundary and identification of potential boundary changes or potential methodologies for triggering an EDC review or assumption.

[1:38:20] The committee has only identified four potential changes that show in on this slide, aligning the EDC boundary to nodes and corridors, reviewing projects adjacent to major transportation corridors, reviewing all large site resilience regardless of the proximity to transit centers and improving the project exemption process with clear principles for when existing criteria do not readily apply.

[1:38:48] Please note that the 2025-2026 Work Plan is scheduled to be finalized by the end of the current term and the intent to review these four items in further detail and recommends specific changes with an amendment to the EDC by law as appropriate.

[1:39:07] Next slide.

[1:39:10] Proposed 2025-2026 work plan. As to the proposed work plan, the committee

[1:39:17] requests that a subcommittee be established for the duration of the 2025-2026 term. These

[1:39:23] tasks are in addition to the ongoing goal of reviewing development applications. We would

[1:39:29] also like to note that this proposed work plan can be undertaken using existing administrative

[1:39:34] of resources and no additional budget will be required. Prior to concluding, I would like to acknowledge

[1:39:41] our city of Edmonton Administration liaison contributions. Peter Spirie, Ashley Rowan,

[1:39:48] and by extension West Sims, they are invaluable to the success of our committee and our subcommittees

[1:39:54] work. Their efforts go above and beyond just administrative support. I also want to thank our

[1:40:00] Councilor Liaison, Councillor Aaron Pachat, for his continued support. Next slide. And with

[1:40:08] that, I'd like to thank you for your time and welcome any questions of the committee.

[1:40:14] Great, thank you so much for the excellent presentation. Councillor Pachat, would you be interested

[1:40:18] in putting the recommendation on the floor?

[1:40:23] Well, I was considering my continuing support, but I consider it, and I think yes, absolutely.

[1:40:28] All

[1:40:32] right, we'll get that up on the screen just so you can read that in and we can get a seconder.

[1:40:39] Yeah, I move that the Edmonton Historical Board's request to establish for subcontinent.

[1:40:45] Oh, sorry. In the new morning, it's one subcommittee for the 2025 work plan.

[1:40:50] As outlined in attachment three of the March have 2025 offices in the City Clerk report.

[1:40:56] Be approved.

[1:40:58] Second.

[1:40:59] Thank you.

[1:41:00] Councillor Baked, do you also have questions?

[1:41:03] Just, yeah, a couple, please.

[1:41:07] And the first would just be, so there's, obviously,

[1:41:13] there's a clear need for this.

[1:41:16] But one of the concerns I sometimes hear

[1:41:19] is that while committee can make recommendations,

[1:41:25] they're not always followed through and how can

[1:41:28] council help with that?

[1:41:34] Well I think that lens itself to us being an advisory committee of council.

[1:41:42] I think that the committee always tries to provide enough information in our recommendations.

[1:41:49] One to any reports that go to council that there's enough information to read and understand the concerns of the

[1:41:56] committee and also we try and make sure that our motions have enough information so that

[1:42:02] city administration or development officers can take it. So I think the continued support

[1:42:11] of making sure that our recommendations are read would be really appreciated.

[1:42:18] Yeah and it's that follow through that I'm curious about and maybe this is a discussion for another

[1:42:23] time, just let me know.

[1:42:27] Hey, one of our work plan goals for 2025-2026 is actually to have an engagement session

[1:42:36] with Council, such as do a Councillor luncheon, one to just provide a greater overview

[1:42:42] to what the committee is about and what our day-to-day tasks is, and I think it would

[1:42:49] and a good opportunity for us to have that discussion of what we could do to help support council

[1:42:55] and potentially what council could do to support us.

[1:42:59] Great, perfect.

[1:42:59] Thank you so much.

[1:43:00] Thank you for all the hard work you will do.

[1:43:03] Great.

[1:43:04] Councillor Stevenson.

[1:43:05] Thank you very much.

[1:43:06] And thanks to the great work.

[1:43:07] It's awesome to see some of the moves that you see is making.

[1:43:11] I appreciate the realignment of boundaries and the geography that you're looking at for

[1:43:19] next year or this year, just when anything's been any conversation around potentially moving

[1:43:25] towards having rather than panels of the whole, sort of smaller panels, tell

[1:43:30] to get through more, more applications if needed.

[1:43:35] Yeah, so currently under the current kind of four bullet points that we had for the real

[1:43:42] at the boundary. Administration did review the number of permits in 2023 for both what they

[1:43:51] existing EDC area was, as well as kind of the areas that would correspond to that center

[1:43:59] node and primary corridors. We sort of anticipate the node and corridor geometry represents

[1:44:06] probably about a 25% increase in the project and write this second. We actually think

[1:44:14] that the committee feels that this increase could potentially be offset by additional

[1:44:21] project exemptions that we're currently also working through at the same time.

[1:44:26] In regards to having kind of sub breakout groups to get through more applications,

[1:44:32] One of the strongest assets to the committee is our diversity and having such a diverse background.

[1:44:41] So currently the committee is comprised of 12 members.

[1:44:45] There's a representation from architects, engineers, landscape architects, planners,

[1:44:53] post-secondary institutions, members at large, the development industry,

[1:44:58] Edmonton Arts Council.

[1:45:00] Some of which only hold one position. So it would be very difficult to separate those diverse positions that only hold one seat into separate kind of breakout.

[1:45:16] Okay.

[1:45:16] Yeah, I appreciate that. I think something for us to sort of keep our eye on as we, again, hopefully continue to see a rise in development permits in the two de areas, but appreciate that reflection.

[1:45:28] You know, just going through the New Urban Design Principles, I think those are really exciting.

[1:45:33] I think, you know, really captures some some critical pieces there.

[1:45:37] I did just wonder if there was a conversation around the healthy and inclusive.

[1:45:43] I just know that it's immediately talked about safe communities.

[1:45:47] You just wondering why safe and inclusive wasn't taken as sort of the headline for that principle,

[1:45:54] recognizing that, you know, being a safe city as it is, is a key priority at council.

[1:46:00] Yeah, so I would say the committee sees safety as an integral element of the health and

[1:46:06] healthy and inclusive principle. However, as the principles are refined over the coming weeks,

[1:46:13] the committee will strive to provide more clarity regarding this. This is one of the items that

[1:46:19] came out of our presentation on March 4th, I went to UPC. So the subcommittee is going to

[1:46:27] work through those comments currently. Oh great. Yeah, and I think even some of the ways that

[1:46:36] buildings you contribute to safety in terms of overlook and those elements, I think could really

[1:46:42] really help strengthen that. Also, just wondering as well,

[1:46:46] I know that there's sort of the urban

[1:46:48] And then there's also the design priorities.

[1:46:52] Just wondering what the relationship was

[1:46:53] between those two pieces.

[1:46:58] Well, I would say that the principles represent

[1:47:01] the desired city building outcomes

[1:47:03] were kind of the why.

[1:47:06] Whereas the design priorities speak more

[1:47:09] to traditional design considerations and processes

[1:47:12] or the how.

[1:47:15] In this sense, they work in kind of a complimentary fashion.

[1:47:19] Okay, that's helpful, that, yeah, I really appreciate that, that lens to it.

[1:47:27] Great, thank you so much, I appreciate and appreciate the ongoing work.

[1:47:31] Councillor Tang?

[1:47:33] Yeah, great.

[1:47:34] Thank you very much, Jan, for the presentation.

[1:47:37] So just to help me better understand, having the six principles, and I'm assuming

[1:47:43] that's incorporating the submission guys, applicants can understand kind of what are

[1:47:48] committee typically looks for and then they can strive for that right. Correct. Yeah. As a prior

[1:47:55] to the six principles, there's no principle or is this like update?

[1:48:01] So currently there are

[1:48:04] principles of urban design, but as I noted during the presentation, they were created back in 2005.

[1:48:12] So, the committee felt that they were not just the committee, also industry felt that they were quite outdated.

[1:48:20] So, this update to the principles of urban design are to real line the principles with kind of current priorities and also in response to industry.

[1:48:34] Yeah, no, that's great. I like them and I'm sorry, miss that in your presentation. I guess something like as I look at these principles

[1:48:42] I think about, you know, some of our current trends and challenges the city is facing with growth

[1:48:51] With implementation of some of the lands use policies and some of the I think change management that's happening at the very local level

[1:49:03] one thing I do here comes up all the time is you know we're replacing homes that's been

[1:49:10] here for decades with new homes that just have really ugly design and you know this

[1:49:17] now we should build a city and you know but if I think about some of the you know the

[1:49:22] infield development it's it's really kind of I think about these principles that that

[1:49:27] you're talking about here I guess just like maybe in general what you know what's

[1:49:31] of advice on the things that you see and the conversations that the committee typically have

[1:49:43] with, with, I guess, conversations we may have with Emantonians. That's drive to a here

[1:49:52] to city policy, to face the challenge that we're facing, because I feel like design comes

[1:49:58] up as a crutch, and I, I don't know if I'm articulating this appropriately, but I struggle

[1:50:07] with that.

[1:50:08] So, just seeking some advice.

[1:50:10] Yeah, so I would say, if you, you know, listen to any meeting, especially where it's

[1:50:17] in kind of the, you know, existing development and that, the committee spends a lot of time

[1:50:23] looking at existing contacts, what's surrounding it, we kind of look at, you know, any existing

[1:50:33] setbacks on adjacent properties, not only the properties that are under review, so there's

[1:50:39] a lot of conversation on whether or not developments should be leaning towards more fitting

[1:50:48] in and integrating to existing context or whether or not the developments are kind of setting

[1:50:55] what we would say is the future context of the areas, especially areas where we see a lot of

[1:51:02] redevelopment going on. So I think just understanding that there is lots of conversation

[1:51:11] And in the deliberations and regards to what the existing context is.

[1:51:21] Okay. Yeah, thanks for that.

[1:51:26] That's it. That's all my questions. Thanks so much for your work.

[1:51:29] Thank you. Not seeing any further questions.

[1:51:32] Is there anyone who would like to speak to this item?

[1:51:38] If not, I'll go to Councillor Piquette.

[1:51:41] Great. Thank you.

[1:51:42] And again, thank you to Edmonton Design Committee.

[1:51:46] I'm always just absolutely fascinating meetings.

[1:51:50] They're so interesting, and I've learned so much.

[1:51:55] Just enough to potentially be dangerous if I didn't keep my nose out.

[1:52:00] So thank you for all the work you do in the thoughtfulness

[1:52:03] that the whole advisory brings to the work.

[1:52:08] I've seen conversations occur in real time, the impact, how a structure can unfold and impact

[1:52:20] to a community, and it's always going, you know, I find it fascinating to see the ways in

[1:52:25] a common lay person like myself wouldn't

[1:52:30] Not a lot of fun about those elements that ultimately become incredibly important. Not only to the structure, but to the quality of life and to the community extension, and even to the aesthetics, which is really interesting.

[1:52:45] I mean, my only complaint is that there's not more color, but we'll leave it at that. And thank you very much for all your hard work.

[1:52:52] Thank you.

[1:52:53] Thank you.

[1:52:54] Thanks so much.

[1:52:56] Please vote.

[1:53:11] We have a vote.

[1:53:12] Just play the vote.

[1:53:16] That's carried.

[1:53:17] Great.

[1:53:18] Well, thank you so much for joining us, Janice.

[1:53:20] I really appreciate your time today and for answering all of our questions.

[1:53:23] And of course, the entire Edmonton Design Committee really appreciate your dedication to helping shape our communities for generations to come.

[1:53:30] Thank you.

[1:53:31] Thank you.

[1:53:35] All right.

[1:53:36] Now we're a little ahead of schedule.

[1:53:38] So I am just going to check in Jenny Elberg's is ready to go get nons. Yes, Jenny are you online with us?

[1:53:48] Yes, I'm here ready to go. Awesome.

[1:53:51] So next up is a community services advisory board with chair Jenny Elberg's and I believe there's a presentation up on the screen.

[1:53:58] So we'll hand it over for every presentation and then to follow with questions. Go ahead Jenny.

[1:54:04] Perfect. Thank you so much.

[1:54:06] So thank you everyone for having

[1:54:08] ceased up here today.

[1:54:10] So my name is Jenny Albers and I'm the chair of the community services

[1:54:13] advisory board.

[1:54:14] Other known as CSAB.

[1:54:16] And I'm excited to provide an overview of our 2022 annual report

[1:54:20] and then upcoming work plan for this year.

[1:54:23] Next slide, please.

[1:54:26] So just as a reminder, the metadata

[1:54:28] the community services advisory board,

[1:54:30] so CSAB is to provide advice regarding grant funding

[1:54:33] and have a key role in developing a long-term plan for community services and a city of

[1:54:39] eminent.

[1:54:40] These have been comprised of 13 board members, and last year we welcome three new board members

[1:54:46] to the team.

[1:54:48] Also last year we had one subcommittee, so the family and community support services subcommittee,

[1:54:54] which was comprised of both C sub board members and community members, that's of course

[1:54:59] SCSS grant program. Next slide please. So, in reviewing 2024, CSAP completed some great

[1:55:09] accomplishments to support community services and emitting. Looking back at our work plan

[1:55:15] from last year, we had four main priority areas, and I just wanted to share a few highlights.

[1:55:22] So, under affordable housing and homeless prevention, the Board of Education was city administration

[1:55:27] and increased understanding of priorities and current work of the city's affordable housing

[1:55:32] and prevention of homelessness strategy. The board provided feedback on future strategies

[1:55:37] and shared connections with local community. For the second goal, community safety and

[1:55:43] well-being, the board engaged with city administration on priorities and her work in community safety

[1:55:49] and well-being. So this included increasing understanding of the city's community safety and

[1:55:56] strategy. The board also provided feedback to Council on the first iteration of the public

[1:56:02] spaces by law. The board also engaged on the safe and inclusive spaces report. And then the

[1:56:09] board also learned from community organizations such as Wall Street Community Services and

[1:56:14] Emmeton H-Friendly Alliance about their parties for community safety and while being at Emmeton.

[1:56:21] For the third party, it was about family and community support services or the FCSS program.

[1:56:28] So the Board provided recommendations for the FCSS program to increase social inclusion and equity by finding programs and services

[1:56:35] Community Development Initiatives and Social Infrastructure.

[1:56:39] So a couple of highlights included a one-year extension of funding to seven organizations

[1:56:45] who's funding within the social infrastructure and strong sectors stream

[1:56:50] was inspiring at the end of 2024.

[1:56:54] And then it was also supporting the funding of two organizations that approach

[1:56:57] of CSS for funding in 2025, due to changes and funding from other community funder, so both programs

[1:57:05] advance along inclusion as well as community development, which align to our FCSS priorities.

[1:57:12] And then another exciting piece under the FCSS program is the board held its first eminent

[1:57:18] FCSS board chair networking event in November as a principal's armory, it was a super successful event.

[1:57:26] We have 39 board chairs from agencies funded to provide FCS programs and services in attendance.

[1:57:33] So there's a great opportunity for board chairs, these have members and administration to connect.

[1:57:40] Board chairs received an overview of FCS program along with current social services, research and current trends from one of our board members.

[1:57:48] As well, they engaged an active discussion on current issues with their boards and community services in META.

[1:57:56] We'd also like to thank the Edmonton Chamber of Honorary Organizations, who was in attendance and provided information and connections to the boardchairs.

[1:58:05] And I will make a note to, because I know how this is really interesting in that CSS program.

[1:58:11] So there will be a full sum of energy and SES report that will be shared in spring of this year with more information around the key results of the program coming soon.

[1:58:22] And then the fourth priority was the Community Investment and Operating Grant.

[1:58:26] So the Board provided recommendations about the grant, which provides operating assistance to not-for-profit organizations

[1:58:33] to help them provide programs, services, and activities that are fitting the residents'

[1:58:38] engine. The Board recommended a few changes surrounding the grant program, so it included

[1:58:44] removing the appeal process starting this year in 2025. Also launching the grant earlier

[1:58:52] in November 2024 and then closing at the end of January 2025, which results in organizations

[1:58:59] receiving their funding earlier in the year to support with operations and then also the board

[1:59:06] reviewed and updated the spring matrix and social service eligibility. So beyond the big four

[1:59:12] priorities the board also had an opportunity to engage with a few other pieces of city administration.

[1:59:19] So the board provided feedback to the 2025 Emmaton election around proposed accessibility and inclusion

[1:59:26] strategy is to increase engagement as well the Board of Education and presentation with an

[1:59:32] Hamilton Police Commission member to learn about the Hamilton Police Commission role and

[1:59:36] responsibilities. And then of course we celebrated RC7, FCSS committee members and a volunteer

[1:59:42] appreciation event while building board relations and community connections. Next slide please.

[1:59:50] So, looking forward to our 2025 work plan, we've shifted a little bit to three

[1:59:58] main goals for the year.

[2:00:00] So, the first one is the FCS Program. So, this includes work for the next funding cycles. So, the 2026-2028 funding cycle.

[2:00:10] As the board will learn about the process of reviewing funding cycle applications that review the applications for the first part of 2025 and provide recommendations.

[2:00:21] As well, there's ongoing work where the board and our subcommittee will continue to support the visit

[2:00:27] current funded programs, and as well as since our board chair event, the Social Successful

[2:00:33] last year, we are looking at almost another event for board chairs with FCFS funded programs and

[2:00:40] late spring. The second goal is around community services, so continuing to engage with city administration

[2:00:46] on community services priorities. So this is included the new public spaces by law which we're

[2:00:53] ready to engage on along with a coming engagement on equitable recreational programming and then

[2:00:59] other priorities which will confirm more in the fall once SPS has been worked through.

[2:01:08] And then the third goal is around the community investment operating grant programs. So that includes

[2:01:13] support with review of implementation and grant applications for the 2025 cycle.

[2:01:20] As part of our work plan, we are requesting that the current FCSS subcommittee continues this year

[2:01:27] as it provides advice to CSAP on funding recommendations and is imperative to supporting

[2:01:33] in that 2026 to 2028 funding cycle as we start to receive and review applications once the

[2:01:42] application has been posted and closed. SESA subcommittee has been existed for the past 19 years

[2:01:50] of CSAM, so I'm sure that ongoing support for the workflow of the SESA program. And then also included

[2:01:58] is a bit about our budget and resource allocation for this year.

[2:02:03] So around the budget piece, we did include our proposed budget from last year and then our

[2:02:09] actuals. Our actuals were a bit lower than expected, just due to being able to use

[2:02:15] the facilities, which have less hosting fees, and we have less in-person events than we thought

[2:02:21] have. So it was a little bit of offstage on that end. However, our proposed budget for 2025 does

[2:02:29] align with our proposed for 2024 due to providing that upcoming board-chir event in the spring.

[2:02:38] Also providing specific recognition to both RC7 and SDSF members for their work in reviewing all of the

[2:02:46] of SDSS applications coming up and then also providing learning opportunities for board members

[2:02:53] as there is an annual SDSS conference as well.

[2:02:58] On the city resources side we'd like to thank the community services department for their

[2:03:02] ongoing administration support and we're excited to continue to work with them again this

[2:03:06] year.

[2:03:07] The administration support has been adjusted to reflect their current support level, which includes

[2:03:13] changes in staff along with the upcoming 26 to 28 funding cycle which will take a bit more work on the

[2:03:20] event side as well. Next slide please. As we wrap up, I just want to like to say a big thank you

[2:03:28] to Councillor Wright for her leadership, education and continuous support to CSOW. We're very excited

[2:03:35] and looking forward to 2022 and continuing to provide advice on long-term planning for community

[2:03:41] services in Hamilton. So open it up to any questions and I also have Judy Smith from

[2:03:48] Administration Community Services on the call as well.

[2:03:53] Great, thank you so much for the presentation. We'll now go to questions, but first I'll go

[2:03:58] to Councillor Wright if you're interested in putting the recommendation on the floor.

[2:04:01] Very interested in putting the recommendation on the floor. So I recommend that the community

[2:04:05] services advisory boards request to establish one subcommittee for the 2025 work plan as outlined

[2:04:11] and in attachment three of the March 10, 2025 Office

[2:04:15] of the City Clerk Report, OCC 02859, be approved.

[2:04:21] Second.

[2:04:22] Thank you.

[2:04:23] And we'll just go back to the board here,

[2:04:27] so I can see a list of folks who have questions.

[2:04:30] Councillor Ray, do you want to start?

[2:04:32] Sure.

[2:04:33] Looks like I'll start in an.

[2:04:35] Hi, Jenny.

[2:04:36] Thanks very much for the presentation,

[2:04:38] and for all the reporting.

[2:04:39] I'm just, I see in the budget that the learning opportunities or the funding for the learning

[2:04:48] opportunities has increased and that's so more members can attend is that right?

[2:04:54] Yes, that's correct.

[2:04:55] So specifically to attend that FCSS annual conference so that we have more ability for more

[2:05:01] members to attend the conference coming up.

[2:05:04] Okay. And that helps in them. I would assume that would help in them making their decisions on the

[2:05:11] FCSF funding recommendations. Yeah, if it helps. So the conference itself is really helps to

[2:05:18] connect with other municipalities, understand a bit more at the FCSF program in other municipalities

[2:05:24] and in Alberta as well. So creating those connections within the community just helps in reviewing

[2:05:31] the SSS funding cycle applications in the future, okay, perfect, because that's a pretty long

[2:05:38] involved process and that's why we need the subcommittee, right?

[2:05:43] Yes, the subcommittee is

[2:05:45] definitely beneficial because there's a lot of work for the board to review the applications

[2:05:50] and then the subcommittee does have community members, but the community members have been past these

[2:05:55] submembers, so they come with a lot of experience in scale set as well. Okay, well that's good,

[2:06:00] And then with the CIOG, because I think we took away the subcommittee last year for that.

[2:06:08] How has that been managed with just the committee of the whole doing the decisioning?

[2:06:15] Yeah. So without the subcommittee, we've moved the work to the Board of the CIOG committee,

[2:06:20] which has been managed. So we aren't looking for a subcommittee specifically for CIOG again, moving forward.

[2:06:27] So, the board is speaking on that work and it's definitely sustainable for the future.

[2:06:32] Okay, good, good to hear.

[2:06:34] Let's see what else did I have to ask you just two seconds.

[2:06:48] Oh, I also noticed, in March, the March meeting.

[2:06:55] I think we got a presentation on the Violence Prevention Plan, right?

[2:07:01] And I'm just wondering what sort of, or is that one coming up? Sorry, just hang on.

[2:07:08] Yeah, that's coming up. Yeah, okay, sorry. So from that, I'm just wondering how much,

[2:07:13] sort of how much was your advice or recommendations incorporated into that?

[2:07:21] So that one's coming up, I believe. Yeah, coming up in this work time. It was in last year.

[2:07:28] So we'll have to review how.

[2:07:30] The Board can engage with that and provide support and feedback on the boards.

[2:07:34] But, and then, otherwise, with what you've provided to the different presentations that have come forward,

[2:07:42] do you see that your feedbacks incorporated or taken into account?

[2:07:49] Yeah, city administration overall is being really great. To work with on the engagement level,

[2:07:53] So, we do ask that when City Amendment comes to see some that they are coming with an engagement opportunity.

[2:08:01] So, providing information about what they're working on but then how can see that how to shape and form that or use community resources or connections to support with that initiative moving forward.

[2:08:14] So, that was for 12 sort of have that service expectation piece from City Administration.

[2:08:21] so that they get the most out of the board's feet apart. And that's the board can actually contribute as well to different

[2:08:29] cany service initiatives and parties of the city. Okay, that's great because that's part of the mandate, isn't it?

[2:08:35] Okay, I think that is all I have. Thank you. I think, yeah, the group there. Oh, one other question, sorry.

[2:08:44] In regards to the new structure with administration,

[2:08:48] how you found that?

[2:08:50] It's been really great.

[2:08:52] The new structure has provided more support.

[2:08:54] I would say for CSF administrative wise.

[2:08:58] So that's been really helpful.

[2:09:00] It's only shifted over the last couple of months.

[2:09:04] But I do think it helps in providing more information about upcoming reports and other connections with them in for CSF specifically.

[2:09:11] So we do thank you that there's the additional support added so that is well.

[2:09:16] Okay, that's great to hear.

[2:09:17] Okay, that's all I have, so thank you again to you and the whole CSAT board.

[2:09:23] Thank you, Councillor Ting.

[2:09:26] Thank you, Jenny, for your presentation and to the whole committee. You have some

[2:09:31] pretty big portfolios and you know, selection that that really is always very felt in the

[2:09:38] community and I hear about these grants all the time. So just want to thank the committee for

[2:09:44] that work. Earlier in your presentation, you have some engagement opportunities say with like

[2:09:52] the 2025 election. You just clarify it like so the purpose of that is to inform Canada,

[2:09:57] it's about the work of CSAP or yeah, can you just like, I was wondering if you can elaborate

[2:10:02] on that. For sure. So that opportunity came to the board. So sometimes we do find that outside

[2:10:10] In fact, community services around with the city, there's other engaged opportunities where the city has asked for these types of advice.

[2:10:18] So, eminent elections came to see some with the opportunity to provide feedback on eminent elections proposed accessibility and inclusion strategies to increase engagement in that selection.

[2:10:31] So they provided a bit of overview of the strategy they were working on for this election and then the board was able to provide some feedback on that.

[2:10:41] So there's a great opportunity which isn't perfectly tire the community services lens, but definitely having the board with all of its different relationships and experience and community services helps to provide some feedback for future voter engagement.

[2:10:58] Great, and then for the police commission, because I think I've seen that engagement with other committees as well, and it's just more familiar familiarity of committee members with that word that body as well, right?

[2:11:11] Yes, and Councillor Wright provided that connection, so that was really great to provide a cross connection of sort of committees and boards.

[2:11:19] It's great learning to, for the Board to understand sort of the EPSA's role and different

[2:11:25] community safety pieces.

[2:11:27] So having that cross-contsection will definitely something we'll have to look forward to in the future

[2:11:32] as well to understand how other committees and boards are working.

[2:11:36] And then things, and I wanted to ask sort of about FCSS as a whole, that funding from the

[2:11:49] argue it's is actually a decrease, wondering if if the committee has conversations about you know

[2:11:57] are you hearing some of the challenges or just some of the difficulty with that?

[2:12:06] So I can't say so when we have that board chair event, back in November we did an activity to

[2:12:12] understand what were sort of the big parties that board chairs were hearing and for their board

[2:12:17] And one of the biggest pieces I came up with funding, funding, funding, sustainable funding and funding that they know sort of where to buy and to get the information.

[2:12:30] So they definitely enjoy understanding more of the FCSS key. So that's why I wanted to run another board chair event in the future.

[2:12:37] But they definitely just continue to mention the priority of sort of lack of funding or looking for more funding opportunities.

[2:12:45] So for us as a board, that's one way we can support is providing more information about SDSS and the

[2:12:51] CIOG programs and then being able to support to other connections in the community.

[2:12:58] So similarly, they mentioned around volunteer and support to engage in opportunities.

[2:13:03] So having ACDO, there was a great connection here as well.

[2:13:07] Yeah, last week we had the gathering of municipalities for the Spring Municipal Leadership Caucus

[2:13:13] and the question of FCSS comes up every single year and no fail.

[2:13:18] And I, you know, premieres at that, you know, we encourage, you know, the, you know, the

[2:13:22] provincial body of the FCSS to submit sort of an envelope approach for funding.

[2:13:28] And I guess, like, I'm assuming like, they do that and I'm assuming M&T employees are pretty

[2:13:35] strong role in demonstrating the outcomes achieved through FCSS.

[2:13:41] I know we have very strong evaluation, so I just wanted to ask about a bit of perspective

[2:13:47] from yourself or even Judy.

[2:13:52] I'm happy to respond to that, Councillor Tanks, so there is lots of advocacy going on throughout

[2:13:58] the province to try to get increases in FCSS, both the RMA and AM, I believe had positions

[2:14:09] on not only increases the FCSSA, which is our provincial association, has been working hard and

[2:14:15] Luke's step.

[2:14:16] One of the C7 members and our FCSS chair is on that board now as a city representative

[2:14:21] and hard on that.

[2:14:23] So that continues to be an ongoing issue and yes, FCSS is showing our Edmonton program shows

[2:14:32] great results from the program and great outcomes and we hope we can still keep pushing

[2:14:38] on on that piece of work. Yeah, I just think if we make some progress there will might make the

[2:14:43] CSS responsibility a little bit better. That's all. Thank you.

[2:14:50] Great. Thank you so much. There's no further questions on the boards. Anyone speak to this?

[2:14:56] I'll just briefly. Sounds great. Go ahead. If nobody else.

[2:15:00] I'll just briefly again say thank you very much for all the work that the committee does and for Judy and her team for helping to help us navigate the committee through it as well. Thank you.

[2:15:14] Thank you, please vote.

[2:15:31] Canals are jams are you with us one line by chance?

[2:15:39] We have all the votes.

[2:15:40] Just play the vote.

[2:15:45] That's carried.

[2:15:45] Great, thank you so much.

[2:15:47] And Jenny really appreciate your time today.

[2:15:50] And to the entire board, really appreciate all the work they do.

[2:15:52] You have a significant body of work that touches so many aspects,

[2:15:55] aspects of our community, and appreciate your dedication.

[2:16:01] So looking at our agenda, we are at our 330 break.

[2:16:05] So we can pause for 15 minutes and come back at 345 to the Accessibility Advisory Committee

[2:16:12] with Tanya Le Revere, and following that we'll speak with the Energy Transition Climate Resilience

[2:16:17] Committee of Council.

[2:16:19] So we're on recess until 345, thanks everyone.

[2:31:46] Councillor Prince Bay. Hello. Councillor Stevenson. Good afternoon. Councillor Perquett.

[2:31:55] Councillor Tang. Good afternoon. Councillor Hamilton. Good afternoon. Councillor Rutherford. Hello. Councillor Carmel.

[2:32:06] Good afternoon. Councillor Rice. Hello. Councillor Jans.

[2:32:12] Good afternoon. Okay. So we're going to be moving on to accessibility advisory committee.

[2:32:19] And I believe Tanya is online with us.

[2:32:25] Tanya, are you there?

[2:32:26] I am.

[2:32:27] Yes, hello.

[2:32:27] Awesome. Nice to see you.

[2:32:29] Thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today.

[2:32:32] So we have some time for presentation on your signs and some remarks,

[2:32:36] followed by questions on our ends. So we'll turn the floor over to you.

[2:32:40] Good. Thank you.

[2:32:41] Good afternoon.

[2:32:43] Those who don't know, my name is Tonya Lerivier.

[2:32:45] On the current share of the accessibility advisory community, we're happy to be here to present a summary of the community's work and progress in 2024.

[2:32:54] Reflecting the AAC's efforts to improve accessibility and inclusivity for individuals with disabilities in Ananton.

[2:33:01] 2024 works on goals and accomplishments.

[2:33:06] Continue to align with our strategic planning session from 2022 and council priorities.

[2:33:13] transportation. Our goal is to improve the rider experience and safety for people with disabilities.

[2:33:20] We provided feedback on issues including the LRT communication tools on safety.

[2:33:25] Snow removal on platforms, the assisted snow removal program, accessible parking and e-bike e-scooter regulations.

[2:33:33] We saw increased enforcement of accessible parking violations with the rise in tickets from

[2:33:39] 3,000 in 6th in 2023 to 4,000 in 4,6th in 2024.

[2:33:46] Engaged in consultations with Edmonton Transit and various accessibility initiatives, including

[2:33:51] the art card, removed regular updates from, sorry, part of me, received regular updates,

[2:33:57] or vehicle for higher, either in person or through their quarterly newsletter and express

[2:34:03] concerns about transit services. I like to use blue curve paint as a visual indicator.

[2:34:11] Accessible housing, we send a letter to council advocating for accessible and affordable housing

[2:34:16] policies, including tax incentives for developers, promoting better definitions of accessibility

[2:34:22] in housing and build access to resources, education, and prioritizing accessibility, construction,

[2:34:30] grants, and advocates to the province for accessibility legislation to improve regulatory requirements.

[2:34:39] He participated in affordable housing, plan discussions, and I spoke at an MSC International

[2:34:45] housing is a human right panel. Policy C602, the corporate accessibility policy and corporate

[2:34:52] actions. The AC continues its involvement in updates and engagements regarding policy

[2:34:58] C602, where I'm proving accessibility within city operations. Community engagement. We

[2:35:05] held meetings with disability advocacy groups attending key disability related events,

[2:35:09] I mean, to maintain the strong presence of social media to connect with the disability community.

[2:35:15] He meetings and discussions, including a range of meetings, cover topics, including

[2:35:19] the LRG communication, affordable housing, corporate accessibility policies, and snow removal program.

[2:35:27] Yeah, AC also participated in various community safety and disability advocacy initiatives.

[2:35:33] Membership of the appointment, the AAPS-2024-25 membership list includes diverse members with terms

[2:35:42] running until 2026 or 2031.

[2:35:46] We will be recruiting for five positions this term.

[2:35:51] This is five positions as in a couple of days ago before that it was four.

[2:35:56] So, the exact, and we will be meeting this evening to go over that membership list, and

[2:36:02] will have an update or you want recommendations for tomorrow morning's meeting for membership

[2:36:08] report.

[2:36:09] Reports and communications, the AAC submitted letters to council addressing topics, such

[2:36:15] as accessible housing, that's why they're support and single use by-laws, we also presented

[2:36:20] the public hearings regarding accessible public spaces.

[2:36:36] We have the capacity to respond to concerns that come up as they relate to council priorities.

[2:36:44] However, the committee expresses concerns about reduced administrative support on a lower social media budget following structural changes.

[2:36:52] This is all very new and positions are still being filled.

[2:36:58] We want to emphasize the need for continued strong support

[2:37:01] to ensure effective representation of the disability community.

[2:37:05] We are about to let the news bear of the AAC tonight.

[2:37:09] I've fulfilled my three-year term.

[2:37:11] I wanted to genuinely thank admin, council, community and council for their support,

[2:37:16] representation in the vastness and accessibility.

[2:37:19] Thank you.

[2:37:19] Thank you for 24 council representatives.

[2:37:22] That's all right.

[2:37:23] Thank you.

[2:37:24] Thank you.

[2:37:26] Thank you so much.

[2:37:28] Councillor Ting.

[2:37:29] I'll go to you.

[2:37:30] If you're interested in putting the recommendation on the floor, and asking questions.

[2:37:35] Sure, yeah. I'll move the Accessibility Advisory Committee's request to establish two subcommittees for the 2025 Work Plan,

[2:37:42] as outlined in Attachment 3 of the March 10, 2025 Office of the City Clerk Report, OCC-02857, be approved.

[2:37:52] Second.

[2:37:56] Thank you very much for the presentation, Tanya.

[2:38:00] And thank you for your service for all these years, given that you're kind of passing on the torch.

[2:38:07] Maybe I'll start there, I'm sure there's lots in my shirt tonight at the meeting, but do you have any advice for the new chair?

[2:38:16] For the new chair, to be honest,

[2:38:23] so the new chair is going to be Dana and Tia Moore.

[2:38:26] She is joining us just listening to this session this afternoon, assuming there are going

[2:38:33] any mass objections. It will be by joining the Board at this moment.

[2:38:46] I think she is probably one

[2:38:49] of the most the best chairs that this community has seen. If you want to say I think I should be the

[2:38:55] I'm asking her for advice when it comes to sharing an actual committee.

[2:39:05] But basically it comes down to listening to the diverse voices and making sure everybody

[2:39:12] has a chance to express their concerns, being often to everybody's experiences, and I have

[2:39:21] absolutely no qualms that she's going to be doing.

[2:39:23] That's awesome. Well, I think you've been very excellent as well and really enjoyed working with you.

[2:39:32] I, I was, I have no doubt that will be kind of having more of these conversations this evening.

[2:39:39] I wanted to get yours and so throughout the year you have lots of presentations from administration who come forward to seeking kind of feedback from the committee.

[2:39:49] Do you feel that Mr. Jones responsive to the feedback are you seeing those feedback incorporated in the next iteration of those reports or policies?

[2:40:03] It's been a really rewarding time to be a part of this community.

[2:40:07] Especially with this new council because we're seeing most advance wills in accessibility being made.

[2:40:12] And it is, I feel like I said this before.

[2:40:15] I feel like the committee used to take on more of an advocacy position.

[2:40:19] Now we're taking on more of that advisory position because there are those advancements being made up of the city.

[2:40:27] Well, great.

[2:40:29] That's great to hear.

[2:40:31] On, you know, in your activity, you've also reported on a number of presentation from some of the provincial bodies,

[2:40:39] similar to AAC, but with other orders of government.

[2:40:43] What's your, I guess, ideal, you know, obviously AAC

[2:40:48] applies a lot of city related policies, programs, infrastructure projects, et cetera.

[2:40:55] How do you see that overlap with some of the provincial bodies and how can we work together

[2:41:00] to further amplify the work to better the accessibility community?

[2:41:08] It's really important that Alberta has accessibility legislation and we don't, we're one of two provinces in Canada that doesn't.

[2:41:17] So, you know, organizing and being able to present the need for that, for the municipality to do that with the provincial government, I think, is really key, but I think it also means to be an organized effort amongst the other municipalities in Alberta.

[2:41:34] But that is a really, really important legislation that we need to see in place.

[2:41:40] And so you feel with something like that, it would kind of make AAC's work not easier,

[2:41:49] but certainly amplify.

[2:41:52] Yeah, I don't look at that.

[2:41:53] Because there's a lot of concerns that come to us in the community that we isn't in our jurisdiction.

[2:41:58] Right, exactly.

[2:42:00] And then, you know, you have, you know, the committee has a strategic plan and priorities.

[2:42:06] But periodically, you know, as council members, we receive feedback from residents about accessibility issues,

[2:42:12] whether it's related to public transportation or sidewalk maintenance or snow removal, et cetera.

[2:42:19] You know, I, you know, I typically kind of flag it for the committee, so for your awareness.

[2:42:23] And when you have issues that doesn't neatly fit into some of those priority buckets, what do you advise residents like what do you like what's your advice for the best process

[2:42:36] For for those kinds of feedback

[2:42:42] So even as a

[2:42:44] Remember the community has that accessibility concern how to address that

[2:42:48] Hmm, three, one, one.

[2:42:52] And I think a lot of people feel like, you know, they call

[2:42:55] three, one, one, or they leave a message,

[2:42:56] and it's not being responded to you.

[2:42:59] Sorry.

[2:43:00] We're iterating.

[2:43:01] Yeah, or do you see AAC have a role in hearing those?

[2:43:06] Because you have a, like, engagement committee, right?

[2:43:10] Is that a place where maybe you can kind of hear some

[2:43:14] of those feedback, but I'm also running out of time.

[2:43:16] So, oh, yes, absolutely, you know, we represent the community and I'm like, so it's an open little policy.

[2:43:25] Thank you.

[2:43:26] Thank you.

[2:43:26] Councillor Neck, can you take the chair, please?

[2:43:28] I've got the chair.

[2:43:29] Thank you.

[2:43:31] I really appreciate your overview today, and I wanted to just ask a few questions about,

[2:43:37] I just wrote accessible housing and how things are evolving or if they're evolving and what major gaps still exist.

[2:43:44] I guess I'm reflecting on, or just over a year into having the new zoning by-law, I know there's some incentives in there around accessible properties.

[2:43:53] I'm thinking about the points that can be gained for programs like, like, a hit or through CMHC lending.

[2:44:04] What are you hearing or seeing in terms of the product that's out there?

[2:44:08] Are we starting to see a difference in accessible homes that are being provided?

[2:44:13] or even customer units that are being included in projects.

[2:44:19] When we spoke with some of the city-owned facilities, we are seeing an improvement in accessibility within those.

[2:44:25] But we need to go beyond that into market housing.

[2:44:28] And we need to have our developers build accessible because they're building barriers into the system.

[2:44:35] And we do not see any improvement in that at all.

[2:44:38] And this is a big concern for all of us.

[2:44:40] Yeah, absolutely. Okay, and and I was just pulling up the correspondence that you sent us.

[2:44:49] Related to accessible housing and there was sort of a longer list of recommendations or suggestions.

[2:44:56] Where would you suggest we really focus our efforts?

[2:45:00] This point, when it comes to moving the needle, I'm moving the dial on accessible units, accessible housing.

[2:45:10] Probably, well, a big part of it is education, but more direct, it could be tax incentives for developers to build it possible.

[2:45:21] I will be the most direct approach that you built.

[2:45:31] Yeah, and can you elaborate on that a little bit, like that doesn't exist today, does it?

[2:45:39] No.

[2:45:40] Okay, but there are other jurisdictions that have explored that.

[2:45:44] And it sounds like that is a model that is functioning in other jurisdictions.

[2:45:50] Interesting.

[2:45:51] Okay. Well, I might follow up on that, friends, just to gain a better understanding of what tools and levers we have

[2:45:57] municipally, what might be a better fit, provincially, and beyond. So, thank you for that. I'll take the chair of us.

[2:46:04] I'll return the chair. I'll go to Councillor Stevenson.

[2:46:06] Yeah, thank you so much and really appreciate all the work that you've provided over the past

[2:46:11] number of years and the great successes have happened under your leadership.

[2:46:15] You know earlier today we were speaking with the design committee and you know they obviously play a very important role in ensuring urban design on private properties is inclusive.

[2:46:27] Can you tell me about any relationship that you have with that committee and the work that they've done on their urban design principles?

[2:46:34] We've never met with them directly, but that doesn't need to say that, I mean, like the city

[2:46:45] departments,

[2:46:48] I've been in charge of our community not directly.

[2:46:51] Yeah, okay, that's really interesting. I don't know if there is someone from administration

[2:46:55] on line who could speak to any opportunities to sort of link or have some dialogue between EDC and the

[2:47:05] AAC.

[2:47:08] Hi, it's Judy Smith, the Director of Community Investment, where all of our support for the advisory boards and community services are in that social developments that right now.

[2:47:17] and we'll be happy to look into that link, and make sure the accessibility board gets an opportunity

[2:47:25] to meet the right people. Great. That's so exciting and I think great timing just as the EDC is finishing

[2:47:30] up some of their new guidance. And maybe even as we're looking into the future in terms of having

[2:47:38] specified people on EDC, just think about the wealth of expertise that exists in the AAC to support

[2:47:45] that work. But that was it. Thank you so much. Thank you, Councillor Wright.

[2:47:51] Thanks very much, Tonya. So you're stepping down as chair, but are you staying on the committee?

[2:47:56] Yes, I have one more year. Okay, okay. So we won't be losing that knowledge and everything.

[2:48:04] So thank you very much. And I'm just wondering, with the change from advisory, sorry, from an advocacy role to more of an advisory role.

[2:48:13] How have you managed that change in any tips for any other committees?

[2:48:22] I don't think it was really so much a matter of managing that change because that's sort

[2:48:29] of what we've been trying to do or the whole time that I've been on the committee which is

[2:48:44] the accessibility. Okay so this so there I mean I think even even sort of acting as an advocate

[2:48:52] as well you were still doing that advisory role to counsel it all along right? Yeah and I do have

[2:48:59] to say our committee right now is fantastic. We have really robust really excellent conversations

[2:49:06] and meetings and they really provide a whole lot of insight and guidance. That probably

[2:49:12] goes to somebody's leadership of that committee too. Okay. Thank you very much.

[2:49:18] Great. Thank you so much. So if there's no further questions, is there anyone who would like to speak to this item?

[2:49:31] Uh, we'll go to, oh, Councillor Nakh, go ahead.

[2:49:33] Yeah, sorry. I think just I wanted to briefly, I always great work from all of our Board's agencies.

[2:49:40] Of course, I didn't have questions on a lot of them, but in particular, John, you just wanted to.

[2:49:43] And I know this is probably like less formal, but I just say thank you, you've been doing

[2:49:48] incredible work over AAC for such a long time.

[2:49:52] So glad that you're there still for another year.

[2:49:55] Since this is like, you know, my farewell to her, I wanted to just say thank you and say really

[2:50:00] appreciate all of your work, all of the advocacy and we've seen such a dramatic shift in

[2:50:04] the city.

[2:50:06] And that's a direct result of the work you've done and the many others who are on that

[2:50:10] committee each and every day.

[2:50:12] So, just my appreciation for all that you've done over the years and glad to know you'll be there for a year longer, but even when that ends, I know you'll be greatly missed.

[2:50:21] So, thank you.

[2:50:23] Thank you.

[2:50:24] And the most rewarding, repasional experience, I'm going to like,

[2:50:30] Councillor Tang.

[2:50:33] Well, I don't know if I'd much to add to that, but you know, when I echo my gratitude, you know,

[2:50:41] when I sent on to for the AAC committee, I didn't know what to expect, but certainly I've learned

[2:50:49] so much from every single committee members and every year, you know, with new members being

[2:50:55] added, I find, you know, the conversation as Tanya has said very rich, opening up new perspective

[2:51:02] for me and, you know, every day I'm thinking about, you know, accessibility all around me,

[2:51:07] sometimes in ways I didn't expect.

[2:51:11] You know, I think that goes to show the leadership

[2:51:13] of, you know, Tanya's a chair as a long-sandy member,

[2:51:17] but also too many to all the members there,

[2:51:22] and the expertise they bring through their lived experience.

[2:51:26] You know, I know you have, you've expressed a little bit

[2:51:28] of the concern with the administrative support

[2:51:31] in your letter.

[2:51:32] You know, I know the transitions just happening

[2:51:36] And no, certainly I'm very committed to kind of see how we can make that transition as smooth as possible.

[2:51:44] And always welcome feedback from the chair, the next chair, you know, and committee members about how I can play a better role in supporting all of you in your work.

[2:51:55] So thank you for being here and for your presentation. I look forward to seeing you tonight.

[2:51:59] Thanks.

[2:52:00] Thanks.

[2:52:01] Thank you.

[2:52:02] Thank you.

[2:52:03] Please vote.

[2:52:10] Now, it's your principal.

[2:52:11] Yes.

[2:52:12] Thank you, principal.

[2:52:14] We have all the votes.

[2:52:16] Just play the vote.

[2:52:20] That's carried.

[2:52:21] Excellent.

[2:52:22] Well, thank you so much for the discussion and Tonya, you know, echoing echoing the

[2:52:26] thanks and gratitude from my colleagues around the table for your years of dedication.

[2:52:30] Service, and everyone on the Accessibility Advisory Committee for helping build a city that's good for all of us. Thank you.

[2:52:38] All right. So, moving, moving along to our next committee. It's the Energy Transition Climate Resilience Committee. And we have both co-chairs, I believe, with us. We have Melanie Hoffman and Jacob Comar, who are both online.

[2:52:58] Jacob and Melanie are you there?

[2:53:02] Yes, fellow councillors.

[2:53:03] Excellent.

[2:53:05] Well, thank you both for joining us today.

[2:53:06] Nice to see you.

[2:53:08] We'll give you some time to do a bit of an overview and share some words

[2:53:12] and then we'll go into some questions from colleagues.

[2:53:15] So, take it away.

[2:53:19] Fantastic.

[2:53:19] Thank you so much for being here.

[2:53:22] Hopefully my daughter recognizes that I'm in a meeting.

[2:53:25] I was not expecting her home right now.

[2:53:28] I'm presenting to Council, do you need anything?

[2:53:32] Okay. I'm sorry. She is on her way to karate.

[2:53:36] All right, so we are really grateful to Council

[2:53:42] that you have the Energy Transition Climate Resilience Committee

[2:53:46] of an Advisory Committee to Council and Administration.

[2:53:51] It's been another really good year of collaboration

[2:53:54] and learning together as we have been living through once again another hottest year on record,

[2:54:04] which for us locally of course really culminated with the wildfires which in Jasper in the summer

[2:54:10] and at Benton being home to many families as they were evacuated here. We know that that is not

[2:54:18] a situation that is going to improve in the next decades but the work that you are doing

[2:54:27] and that the city is leading is going to help with our support continue to do as much as it

[2:54:36] can so that in her lifetime things get better. Oh, Julia, no, I need to be alone.

[2:54:46] And so we're continuing

[2:54:48] to see really strong action with City Council taking steps forward on substantial completion

[2:54:55] and priority growth areas, noting pushback that may be happening at other orders of government.

[2:55:07] We are really excited about the zoning by-law that you passed last year and the success that

[2:55:14] housing starts and increase in fill are giving in order to continue to lower our emissions

[2:55:21] overall.

[2:55:23] It is really important for you to continue the leadership that you are providing and where

[2:55:31] really excited for what administration is working on and continuing to bring forward.

[2:55:38] and so in 2024, we provided for our memos to council and spoke at six committee meetings.

[2:55:48] We've got the list of details in our report, but of course really important for us in that context

[2:55:57] was taking a clear position on city investments in hydrogen and the realities of the science

[2:56:07] of science and engineering of hydrogen being able to engage in disciplines and substantial

[2:56:15] completion and the same importance of limiting growth, of course, both for affordability,

[2:56:22] livability of communities and also for our mission schools.

[2:56:28] We are glad to continue to be

[2:56:33] able to support culture change and have had some good meetings with the climate task force,

[2:56:38] continue to have really strong collaboration with our like to say our team at the team that

[2:56:46] supports us on administration's side. And we also had an opportunity to meet with the city manager

[2:56:55] and the interim city manager at the time, the deputy city manager to communicate about our

[2:57:03] hopes then priorities. This is something that we really want to see more of yet. I think for us,

[2:57:13] you know, one place where that really became clear again, recently was in the 12-0 vote to

[2:57:19] approve the Nordic spa that the culture change across Council and Administration is not where we would

[2:57:27] to see it from my perspective for all the Edmonton businesses that are engaged in the

[2:57:36] corporate climate leaders, program, and or working hard and investing to bring down their

[2:57:41] emissions to approve without further requirements, a project that's going to have incredible

[2:57:47] emissions intensity per square foot as much as I love myself with it's on it, is very troubling.

[2:57:56] And so looking forward to continue to do that work, and would really like to see a chief

[2:58:01] climate officer hired as was announced some years ago now, to continue to lead that culture

[2:58:09] change and support a true emergency response as we find ourselves in a marathon in that context.

[2:58:19] We are really happy to continue to hear presentations from administration in our regular meetings.

[2:58:26] Next one is coming up on Thursday and so really seeing good discussion there on input on how the

[2:58:34] climate resilience planning and development framework is being developed and other ways in which

[2:58:41] our resilience strategy and our energy transition strategy are being brought forward.

[2:58:48] So with that, we are very much looking forward to your questions and any conversations that

[2:59:01] we can have today where, yeah, just want to say, a big thank you for the support we have

[2:59:11] from staff, in particular, of course, from our liaison Heather, very helpful and doing this

[2:59:20] work as a volunteer, and we are looking forward to continuing to contribute so that every

[2:59:29] decision is a climate decision and is taking care of our health and well-being in that

[2:59:41] With that, I will see if Jacob has anything that he wants to add before we hand it over.

[2:59:48] Maybe just that this year, we already set one memo and we're looking forward to further discussion.

[2:59:57] If you have any questions, or again, you've been on that.

[3:00:00] To see what happens on the energy utilities, and we also preparing another big memo, the theme of our

[3:00:08] memos is trying to be big climate action without any costs or very minimal costs from the city,

[3:00:14] because I realize that these are pastime. So, that's it.

[3:00:19] Thank you both. I really appreciate you being with us, so we'll turn to colleagues for questions.

[3:00:25] I'll go to Councilor Jan, if you're keen to put the motion forward.

[3:00:29] So moved.

[3:00:33] Second.

[3:00:34] Great.

[3:00:36] Thank you for that.

[3:00:36] And do you have questions as well?

[3:00:37] I do.

[3:00:38] Go ahead.

[3:00:40] Yeah.

[3:00:40] Thank you both.

[3:00:42] It's an incredible learning opportunity to work with both of you.

[3:00:45] I wanted to ask you to kind of share maybe if you, it's not a fair question to the committee, but maybe both could speak personally as coach.

[3:00:52] but you're kind of being asked to take on this enormous job of providing feedback to the

[3:01:02] fifth-largest city in Canada on the on this massive existential threat to the human life around

[3:01:09] the planet and you're being told to have, you know, a meeting a month and provide provides some

[3:01:16] feedback and maybe come and speak and share notes and stuff. And I wanted to unpack for

[3:01:22] kind of like, is this a fair ask to put on an ordinary human being kind of to say, you know,

[3:01:28] here is the enormous emergency that we've declared and we don't take that word emergency

[3:01:35] lightly, but then, you know, as you highlight, there's still the machinations of life that

[3:01:42] continue and how do you kind of hold that tension and how do you either balance community members

[3:01:49] and committee members who just get frustrated and burn out or turn off within still running

[3:01:58] a functional committee and how do we how do we pay ourselves in like what's what's

[3:02:04] are are we being fair to you.

[3:02:11] Thanks for that question, Councillor Jens.

[3:02:14] I think from my perspective, being able to have this opportunity to more deeply understand

[3:02:23] understand how decisions are made at the municipal level, what decisions are made at the municipal level and being able to provide feedback in a context where there's a possibility that your feedback is taken seriously on that face value is something that feels incredibly worthy of my time and energy because

[3:02:53] I am going to be continuing to be aware of the progression of the climate and ecological

[3:03:00] emergency globally, whether I do this work or not.

[3:03:04] So I might as well be engaged in this conversation as long as it is a conversation that

[3:03:11] feels like it is leading to some version of the transformative change that I believe most

[3:03:22] not all of us understand. We need. And so I look for those opportunities for impactful engagement

[3:03:33] and this has felt more often than not like it is one. Although every now and again things happen

[3:03:44] that make you question whether this is where you should be investing your time. So I really appreciate

[3:03:50] each and every one of the individuals working in administration and working on council

[3:03:57] who are contributing to the public's ability to move forward together on this transition.

[3:04:11] Jacob, do you want to take a crack of that or?

[3:04:14] I mean, that was a big question, Councillor Jans, I think I could spend an hour talking about

[3:04:25] this question. I think we definitely see it in some committee members feeling hopeless

[3:04:31] and burnt out feeling like some of the things we're doing, don't matter or aren't having

[3:04:39] an impact, which at the same time is it fair to you? I think this council has done more than

[3:04:44] any other council, let alone any other council and probably Canada to advance some of this work

[3:04:51] and yet your hands are tied because these decisions need to be discussed at a global and

[3:04:59] provincial and at a federal level and they just aren't. The system is not set up for that.

[3:05:06] So without going down to rabbit hole, I think for me, it's some of the most rewarding work

[3:05:12] and also frustrating work because I realize the limits that are imposed on us and yourselves

[3:05:20] are doing this work in the fact that even if you were to go faster and harder like we say,

[3:05:25] you're going to hit roadblocks with public discourse and everything else. So I'll leave it at that.

[3:05:32] But now, thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you for how that you do.

[3:05:37] Thank you. Councilor Nack, can you take the chair, please? I've got the chair. Thank you.

[3:05:43] Yeah, I, I just wanted to get a little bit of additional clarity around the establishment

[3:05:49] of the additional subcommittee, and maybe just if you could, could explain, or what's

[3:05:56] happening now and how this might help things function a little bit better.

[3:06:03] Yeah, absolutely.

[3:06:04] Thank you so much, Consolas Salvador.

[3:06:06] So, what we're finding is, and I guess actually, Consolar, Jan's question kind of gets

[3:06:12] at that too. We meet every couple or three months for a few hours on an emergency.

[3:06:24] And we spend

[3:06:24] most of that time discussing some updates and reports from Council, sorry not from from administration,

[3:06:34] which is of course the majority of what we want to be able to engage with. However, what that often

[3:06:41] means is that we cannot be easily responsive to emergent items as well as that structure

[3:06:53] really limiting our ability to allow the

[3:07:01] knowledge and experience in the committee to

[3:07:04] merge and do the work that we see as our opportunity to contribute to the city's efforts and so those are some of the things that

[3:07:18] So community really helps us be able to advance.

[3:07:22] OK, that's helpful.

[3:07:25] And I guess just on that note, thinking about...

[3:07:31] I was reading the description here at talks about the subcommittee. We'll be able to focus on matters that require more quick actions and response.

[3:07:40] How do you plan on prioritizing within the long list of priorities? Would those emergent items or the ones that require quick actions?

[3:07:48] They would still be aligned to the overall priorities of the committee, correct?

[3:07:52] Yes, absolutely. Okay. Amazing. Cool. Well, that's really helpful. I will take the chair back.

[3:07:57] I'll return the chair.

[3:08:00] Any other questions?

[3:08:05] Councillor Francis?

[3:08:06] No way.

[3:08:08] But Councillor Rayty have a question?

[3:08:13] Go ahead.

[3:08:16] Okay.

[3:08:17] I'm on the board now.

[3:08:20] You mentioned the Chief Climate Officer.

[3:08:23] Why is that important?

[3:08:26] Because I've been waiting for it too.

[3:08:30] Thank you, Councillor Ray.

[3:08:32] We've had some interesting discussions about this

[3:08:34] Because in some ways, there's maybe the thought that hanging climate on one position is not setting the city up for success because what we need is the climate lens to be present for everyone, but who is that individual, who has the capacity, the knowledge to support an organization as a large as the city of Edmonton, to be able to center.

[3:09:04] climate lens in all decisions and everything that's happening to help everyone be able to understand

[3:09:11] how their job is the climate job and how the work that they do have the potential to be

[3:09:16] transformational towards the future city that we're all wanting to build together.

[3:09:23] And so having one person whose primary responsibility is that work is the big, the big benefit

[3:09:34] that we see there. You know, it's really, really foundational that our city manager has a strong mandate and that our city manager is able to support all of that through his position.

[3:09:50] But to not put all of that on the shoulders of people who already have many other things that are going to be their priorities.

[3:10:00] It's this difficulty of leaving a topic in my that's I mean accessibility is directly relates to all of us too

[3:10:06] So I'm thinking back to our previous community that yeah having having a designated person when we have a declared climate emergency

[3:10:13] And we do not have clarity of like when we're not going to have a declared climate emergency anymore and how the administration overall is is really thoroughly responding to that

[3:10:24] That's why we're excited about that position from my perspective. Maybe Jake

[3:10:28] So it's more someone to sort of lead the charge across the organization, not just putting an environmental lens on a report that we receive.

[3:10:40] It's about having a climate voice at the executive leadership table.

[3:10:44] Okay.

[3:10:46] Okay, thank you.

[3:10:47] That answers my question.

[3:10:49] Great.

[3:10:49] Thank you.

[3:10:50] Continue to advocate.

[3:10:54] Excellent.

[3:10:55] So I'm not seeing any further questions on the board.

[3:10:56] Is there anyone who would like to speak to this?

[3:11:01] Councillor Hamilton, I appreciate the report today, I just want to click on, because I

[3:11:16] flagged in my notes that ETCRC has been highly critical of Council's decisions,

[3:11:25] and I

[3:11:26] don't think it is helpful for us, not from a climate lens, but I appreciate so much of this

[3:11:33] discussion today from your perspective or from the perspective of the board has been

[3:11:37] about understanding where council ends up in terms of our, our, our how our decisions are being made,

[3:11:46] but I, I just want to flag that it is making the work you're trying to do really hard to defend

[3:11:54] And I don't think that's your intention, but that is nonetheless the consequence of it.

[3:12:03] And I appreciate that Council declared an emergency, which I supported.

[3:12:08] I appreciate that Council has made this a high priority, which I also supported.

[3:12:15] But I calling out both counseling administration is not having absorbed or not being champions of climate change as I think not fair to our city staff, including the planning department who worked really hard to incorporate that and also not fair to this council, which I agree with you, Jay Cupsa, is the

[3:12:45] It is a council that is put a lot of its political capital on the line and if I'm being honest

[3:12:54] about where polling is, this council has worn it more than any other council and makes

[3:13:01] it incredibly, it puts council in a really precarious position.

[3:13:06] As you know, when it comes to planning decisions, there's a myriad of things that this council

[3:13:11] take into account, but it's also quasi-judicial process and I recognize that we'll never be able

[3:13:20] to do enough to satisfy what needs to be done on climate and municipal level, but I'm somewhat

[3:13:28] personally offended that this council and so many of the champions around this table don't get

[3:13:38] like a lot of people have really gone to that on this file and it's really hard to carry

[3:13:50] on that work if the people who are supposed to be helping you are backbiting you in

[3:13:56] that process. So that's all I have to say about that. Thank you.

[3:14:03] Thank you. Councillor

[3:14:07] I want to thank the committee members, again, it's a fantastic opportunity and I really appreciate their contributions.

[3:14:15] The term moral injury comes to mind that, you know, you're asking people to be a part of such an enormous task and such complex work in an area that's increasingly frustrating and limiting in terms of even with the best policy advice and decisions at the local level.

[3:14:32] we can still be subject to override from a provincial government and federal government and

[3:14:39] you know other international bodies based on consequences around the world, etc.

[3:14:44] So that being said, I think I found the work in particular some of the work around substantial

[3:14:50] completion or the tree by all of these questions that I myself wouldn't necessarily have

[3:14:55] the time to research and answer, having these thoughtful conversations with the committee.

[3:15:00] I think of the wild fire preparedness conversation we had where experts came in and engaged with the committee and our fire department got to have this opportunity to have a, you know, a friend conversation with, with your leadership and I think that was, I think that was much appreciated. So again, I just want to thank all of you for your time and I look forward to continuing to work with you.

[3:15:22] Thank you. Please vote.

[3:15:33] Thank you, Councilor Jans.

[3:15:46] Just need your vote, Councilor Salvador.

[3:15:50] I'm at yes. Thank you. We have all the votes to display the vote.

[3:15:58] That is carried. Thank you.

[3:16:02] And thank you to Jacob and Melanie for being with us today and for really ongoing work at the committee,

[3:16:07] which is, as we heard, incredibly difficult and challenging, but deeply appreciate your dedication.

[3:16:19] Alright, so we're moving on to our next committee, which is actually going to be after the dinner break, but I think we're, we have Emily Badie Online.

[3:16:33] That's how it's ready to go, yes. Amazing. Amazing. Okay, so the Edmonton Transit Service Advisory Board is up next. Hi, Emily.

[3:16:40] Hello. How are you doing? Good, thank you. Good, good. Well, happy to have you with us today.

[3:16:46] We will take some time to hear from you. I see you have a presentation as well, and then we'll follow that up with some questions from committee members.

[3:16:54] Please go ahead. First, right council members. Keep, we're at council. Please go ahead.

[3:17:00] All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for having me. My name is Emily Baddy. I'm the chair of the Edmisture Transit Service Advisory Board.

[3:17:10] I'd like to start by acknowledging my fellow board members, our ETS, the AISON, and administrative

[3:17:15] support, and Councillor Rutherford, all of whom are instrumental in our work and help

[3:17:20] keep our board running.

[3:17:22] Our mandate at ETSA is to provide advice to Council for a stakeholder perspective on issues

[3:17:27] relating to transit, including ridership, mix of vehicles, relationships between city projects

[3:17:32] and transit.

[3:17:33] You're being initiatives of other levels of government or surrounding municipalities that could affect transit.

[3:17:40] Repair maintenance accessibility issues, servicing issues and transit policies.

[3:17:45] Next slide, please.

[3:17:50] In 2024, we identified three broad goals to guide our work.

[3:17:55] First, we wanted to apply timely follow-up on key transit issues scheduled to be presented to council.

[3:18:01] In order to effectively leave the school, we established and refined our processes around identifying

[3:18:07] which issues we wanted to provide feedback on, so at every board meeting, we review what

[3:18:10] transit related reports will be coming to council in the next few months to determine what

[3:18:16] requires the response from that'sab. We call this our rapid response process, so we assign

[3:18:21] a board member to help collect and compile the feedback and put it into a form that we can

[3:18:27] provide to council. So some of the topics that we've provided feedback on for the last year are

[3:18:31] the public spaces by law, the bus network service plan and transit needs to meet population growth.

[3:18:39] Some of the challenges that we faced around the school were its own consistency and clarity

[3:18:44] in collecting the feedback and just improving our transparency around submissions like the format

[3:18:50] of the submission, who actually makes the submission and those types of details. So this is going

[3:18:56] into our goals for the upcoming year.

[3:19:00] Our second goal was we wanted to complete reports

[3:19:02] developed by our subcommittees to proactively provide information to council about transit issues.

[3:19:09] This year we worked on our report related to the perception of safety on the LRT,

[3:19:13] which was recently presented to the urban planning committee and a letter to council regarding

[3:19:18] fair evasion, which was in relation to the sessions around the fair gates of LRT stations.

[3:19:26] In previous years, we've done more reports and had more subcommittees, but this year was a little challenging in sort of developing our processes around administrative support and ensuring that subcommittees could be live-screened in public.

[3:19:39] But those challenges are largely resolved, so we'll to really focus on these proactive subcommittees and reports in the upcoming year.

[3:19:47] Third, our board strive to maintain and improve collaborative relationships with the boards and agencies.

[3:19:54] So this year we nominated a new liaison to work with the Accessibility Advisor committee.

[3:19:59] Because transit issues and accessibility issues can often be closely related or intertwined.

[3:20:05] Next slide please.

[3:20:11] So on the activities we completed in 2024, we had our monthly board meetings and received presentations on

[3:20:17] I'm trying to measure implementation plan, the bus network plan,

[3:20:22] rezoning of priority growth areas, mass transit implementation,

[3:20:26] the LRT seeding options and features, infrastructure and

[3:20:30] enhancements for transit facilities, and the ride transit

[3:20:33] funding gap.

[3:20:36] We provided feedback on a variety of subjects,

[3:20:39] and many of which I covered in the previous slide.

[3:20:43] Next slide, please.

[3:20:48] Looking forward to the 2025-2026 year, our goals are quite similar to what we had last year.

[3:20:55] So first, we want to complete and present reports to Council related to work conducted by our subcommittees.

[3:21:00] This is really our main priority since this is our chance to be proactive and provide information about transit issues that are important to us at SM and to add mental needs.

[3:21:09] And really focus on that stakeholder perspective of transit issues.

[3:21:14] Second, we want to continue to provide timely advice on transit related issues coming to council.

[3:21:20] This is a more reactive school, but it is fully important.

[3:21:25] And third, we'd like to improve our board processes and address some of the challenges

[3:21:28] had over the last year.

[3:21:32] This is really just our chance to be self-reflective to continue to improve.

[3:21:37] And the specific areas that we'd like to refine our processes going forward are around new member orientation

[3:21:42] and submission of feedback, such as creating templates or ensuring up-to-date contact lists.

[3:21:50] Next slide,

[3:21:55] oops, sorry, one back to the 2025 subcommittees.

[3:22:04] So for 2025, 2026, we're proposing four subcommittees.

[3:22:09] We have administrative support to contact two concurrent subcommittees.

[3:22:13] So we would begin work on the first two topics immediately and then start up those other topics once we finish those first two.

[3:22:18] So just an information on how we selected these topics.

[3:22:22] It recently held our annual retreat to brainstorm, develop ideas, and discuss upcoming and ongoing transit issues.

[3:22:28] Based on our brainstorming results.

[3:22:30] We did a prioritization exercise to categorize the impact and the amount of work involved with each idea.

[3:22:36] And then from that we selected the ideas that we would be.

[3:22:39] But we believed would be high impact topics and selected topics that would be reasonable for the amount of work load.

[3:22:46] So the first two topics we're proposing are sort of a higher workload.

[3:22:50] So we're prioritizing those to start first.

[3:22:52] And then as we get through those we can start on those lower effort topics.

[3:22:57] So the topics we are proposing for our subcommittees are the fair funding gap, so outlining

[3:23:05] at SABS position on the discrepancy between target and actual revenue to cost ratio of transit service.

[3:23:13] Secondly, an art card review of the user experience.

[3:23:17] So identifying misconceptions, shortcomings, opportunities related to the user experience of the art card.

[3:23:23] Our third topic, mapping and navigation at bus stops, so providing options for improving visual appeal and

[3:23:31] we finding at bus stops and forth reviewing pet friendly transit, so looking at best practices around how we can

[3:23:40] create pet friendly transit while respecting the needs of all the transit users.

[3:23:48] You can go to the next slide, and thank you, and I'm happy to answer questions.

[3:23:53] Thank you so much for the presentation.

[3:23:56] We'll now go to questions from Councillors.

[3:23:59] Councillor Beatherford, go ahead.

[3:24:01] Yeah, and I'll start by putting the motion on the floor.

[3:24:05] The Edmonton Transit Service Advisory Board request

[3:24:07] to establish for some committees for the 2025 Work Plan

[3:24:10] as outlined in Attachment 3 of the City Clerk Report.

[3:24:14] Be approved.

[3:24:16] Second.

[3:24:17] Okay, that was moved by Councilor Rutherford,

[3:24:20] second by Councilor Ketang, go ahead with questions?

[3:24:23] Yeah, so I just wanted to go back,

[3:24:26] first of all, thanks for being here, great presentation.

[3:24:30] I really like your slide that talked about,

[3:24:33] some of the goals, and then also some of the challenges

[3:24:36] with achieving that goals, and that's something

[3:24:38] we haven't heard other committees saying today

[3:24:40] and I know we've had lots of conversations about it.

[3:24:44] Um,

[3:24:47] I wanted to dig into the thing around like the rapid, the rapid response, uh, and some

[3:24:54] of the sequencing, because this is something I've noticed just around committees in general,

[3:24:58] is like, they're only, and I, I think I brought this up to council at the last time that

[3:25:03] these, these, this was here is like, if their, if committees are only getting a report when

[3:25:09] it's published, and then we want, they want to give feedback on it, they don't have a board meeting

[3:25:15] time for it to be necessarily a board position or an advisory board position. So that's why

[3:25:22] you've done the rapid response where it's more a collection of individual committee members thoughts

[3:25:29] as opposed to that board. But would your preference be to continue that? Do you think that is

[3:25:36] is a good way forward or would you like to see how we as council could be better sequencing for

[3:25:42] advisory committees to give us that more unified perspective on items that are topical to

[3:25:50] whatever area advisory we're dealing with.

[3:25:57] That's a great question. Thank you. The whole question to answer I think too. I would say in an

[3:26:04] ideal world we'd be able to get those reports further and so we could come up with a more unified

[3:26:10] Board perspective, but equally, we're often not, we don't always have a unified perspective.

[3:26:19] We are 12 different voices. We don't always agree on the same things.

[3:26:25] And I also would like to respect that administration puts a lot of work into these reports,

[3:26:31] and sometimes it's hard for them to get them sort of more than that we can advance.

[3:26:36] So, yeah, like I said, ideally it would be nice to get them in advance, so we can create

[3:26:41] sort of a more unified perspective, but we are happy working within the constraints that

[3:26:49] we have as well.

[3:26:51] Yeah, and while it's not in this report, because it was 2025, I really appreciated the public

[3:26:56] species, a rapid response that ETS advisory board also did.

[3:27:00] When you talk about goal one, though, you talk about challenges around clarity and transparency

[3:27:04] and see around submission process.

[3:27:06] Can you elaborate on what you meant by that?

[3:27:11] Yeah, that's sort of taking some of our internal

[3:27:14] board feedback just when we start collecting that feedback.

[3:27:21] Sometimes the board member in charge might not be sure

[3:27:23] how to format it or how to sort of get it all together.

[3:27:28] So it'd be nice to just internally sort of refine that process.

[3:27:32] Maybe have a template that makes it easier for the board member

[3:27:35] in charge to sort of plot things in me.

[3:27:39] And then in terms of submitting it, making sure

[3:27:43] that everyone that thinks or that everyone

[3:27:47] is ccd on those submissions and not just the people that

[3:27:50] responded, so we all have a clear understanding

[3:27:53] of what has been presented.

[3:27:57] So it's really just sort of an internal process thing.

[3:27:59] Okay, now that helps and I really like the pet friendly transit. Can you tell you more about how that one got selected?

[3:28:13] Yeah, absolutely. That came out of discussion at our annual retreat.

[3:28:19] I think that's something we're all enthusiastic about is making sure that all Edmontonians can use transit effectively.

[3:28:28] And for people with pets that might include bringing their pet to the vet, for example, or just getting through

[3:28:35] Edmonton with their pet, which is not always feasible within the current restrictions.

[3:28:43] So we'd like to just do that sort of jurisdictional scan, find out what some best practices are for allowing pets on transit.

[3:28:51] But also respecting that we need to make space for, for example, people with allergies or

[3:29:02] phobias that may not want to see those paths around as well.

[3:29:06] So we need to respect all users, all in transit.

[3:29:10] I look forward to that.

[3:29:11] Thank you.

[3:29:13] Thanks so much.

[3:29:14] Councillor Stevenson.

[3:29:16] Yeah, thank you very much.

[3:29:17] really appreciate the work they are doing in your presentation to us today. I just wanted

[3:29:23] to follow up on the planned actions for this year. So I think the idea of pets on transit,

[3:29:31] I think is a really wonderful example of a user, writer, driven approach, just noticing

[3:29:37] this gap in our community and maybe initiating some first thoughts and steps around this topic.

[3:29:43] I think maybe where, so a couple of the other ones, looking at our card implementation and also the funding gap.

[3:29:53] You know those, those seem like areas of work that our city staff are maybe already looking at and undertaking.

[3:30:00] And with significantly more and more resources, as to undertake those. So wondering how the committee sees themselves

[3:30:08] sort of complementing and supporting, maybe that work that's already happening with city staff, rather than

[3:30:16] taking or duplicating or sort of doing this, not in collaboration.

[3:30:26] Yeah, absolutely.

[3:30:30] So with the, for example, if we get the fair funding gap, that one we

[3:30:36] thought was very important coming into an election year in that we recognize that the transit

[3:30:44] goals for fair recovery are not enough, which is actually being recovered. So we felt it

[3:30:53] important to make sure we get that user perspective or the admin told me in perspective how

[3:30:59] important it is to have affordable transit. So even if we aren't meeting those targets ensuring

[3:31:07] that we have laid out our position of why affordable transit is so important. And we do really

[3:31:14] appreciate the work that this council has supported in keeping transit affordable. But again,

[3:31:21] going into the election here, we want to make sure our position is very clearly about.

[3:31:27] And with the art card, for example, that one is really more about providing that stakeholder

[3:31:34] perspective.

[3:31:35] So we know that ETS does a lot of work in evaluating the art card, but this would be really

[3:31:44] specific to that user perspective, as well as sort of looking at not only the problems with it,

[3:31:55] but that sort of step forward as we move into open payment. How is this rolling out?

[3:32:02] How is it easy for users?

[3:32:05] Where are the opportunities for improvement?

[3:32:08] Okay, no, that's really helpful, so I think what I'm hearing from you is the way that this work kind of compliments.

[3:32:15] Because you know, recognizing that I think city administration is doing detailed surveys of our users.

[3:32:23] I think what I'm hearing is that you're really bringing in sort of that qualitative or storytelling side of the picture.

[3:32:30] So, it's not necessarily quantitative, statistically valid surveys necessarily, but again,

[3:32:37] sort of that personal side, you know, representing those perspectives.

[3:32:47] Is that kind of the idea?

[3:32:48] We really want to focus on that user perspective and bring sort of our expertise to the table as transit users.

[3:32:55] Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you so much for that and thanks for the work that you do.

[3:33:02] Thank you.

[3:33:03] Thank you so much.

[3:33:05] Not seeing further questions. Is there anyone who would like to speak to this item?

[3:33:14] Councillor Rutherford.

[3:33:16] Yeah, I just want to end with some gratitude.

[3:33:21] I think many might recall. There's been like a quite a huge change in the composition of ETS advisory board in the last little while

[3:33:28] and new leadership and Emily's done amazing work in that capacity.

[3:33:35] But I think Councillor Stevenson touched on something that is, I think this committee

[3:33:39] is particularly grappled with, which is, ETS does have a lot of data.

[3:33:44] They do collect a lot of information.

[3:33:47] And so where does the advisory board fit into that to both augment, but also provide a different

[3:33:55] valued expertise lens for council decision-making, and so they really grappled with that at the last retreat that Emily was mentioning here.

[3:34:07] And I think art card is perfect example of last time it came forward.

[3:34:11] It was more of an analysis of the art card. This year they're really focused on that user experience.

[3:34:17] What are some of those things that that might be worth considering for council as we move far forward with the art card roll out?

[3:34:26] The funding fair gap was one that I would have the pleasure to drop in for a part portion of

[3:34:31] That retreat and I did highlight to them. You know

[3:34:34] Council is making so many decisions now in 2025 and into

[3:34:40] twenty twenty six related to transit related to fair amounts at that point we didn't know

[3:34:47] if the province was going to come to the table with the the funding for the low income

[3:34:53] transit pass and if we were going to have to fill that gap further. So I was just providing

[3:34:59] that context of that when we're talking about advisory committees we are making a lot of decisions

[3:35:04] about funding and transit. So that's, I think, the intent that working with ETS advisory board

[3:35:11] they came up with around the funding gap, not doing the work of necessarily addressing the

[3:35:15] funding gap but also why the choices we make on transit to expand transit to invest in more

[3:35:22] buses, to invest in more service hours, to make our debts and our on demand more reliable and

[3:35:30] every day was the key there. Obviously, I didn't have any influence on this one, but I love the

[3:35:38] prep friendly transit one and I can't wait and I think Emily really talked about it a lot in

[3:35:42] terms of there is other things to consider. There's so much it seems so easy and so straightforward

[3:35:47] of course like dogs on trains, woo, but then it's like phobias and allergies and so many other layers

[3:35:54] and so I think it's going to be a really interesting report and I'm so excited for for that and then

[3:36:00] mapping and the navigation. The more we can make our systems more

[3:36:03] navigate to navigate for the user and from a user perspective, the

[3:36:08] better we can build the systems that that actually do create that

[3:36:13] reliability. And so I think that this work plan that ETS Advisory Board

[3:36:18] has come forward with is really topical, really focused on their expertise and

[3:36:26] knowledge that they bring as active and avid transit users and individuals that are just plainly

[3:36:35] passionate about transit. They love transit, they believe in it, they use it and they see the

[3:36:45] the overall benefit. And so I'm so honored and humbled every time I get to go to an ETS advisory board

[3:36:50] meeting and here they're brilliant perspectives and learn from them each and every day that I've

[3:36:58] been able to do that. So thank you so much for this awesome presentation and for the great

[3:37:03] work you did in 2024 and I'm looking forward to seeing what ETS Advisory Board does in 2025.

[3:37:10] Thank you. Thank you, please vote. Yes.

[3:37:16] Thank you, Councillor Gents.

[3:37:21] I'm yes. Thank you, Councillor

[3:37:22] price.

[3:37:25] We have all the votes displayed in the vote.

[3:37:29] That is care.

[3:37:30] Great. Great. Well, thank you so much, Emily. Really appreciate you being with us today and all the work that you and the rest of the committee put into making our transit system as good as it can be and your dedication to continual improvement. It's really appreciated. I'm looking forward to the work ahead too. All right. So, I think we're just going to pause for a moment for a little bit of a gender management. Just to make sure we're all on the same page, before we break for dinner. And I'll just look to the city clerk.

[3:38:00] We have three more committees left and my understanding is just based on timing and scheduling for those folks that will be coming back at 6 p.m.

[3:38:10] to connect with wave followed by youth council and then the Edmonton Combat of Sports Commission.

[3:38:19] That makes sense.

[3:38:20] Okay.

[3:38:21] Fantastic.

[3:38:23] And nothing else that we were good?

[3:38:25] Okay.

[3:38:25] It was a lot of great.

[3:38:26] Wonderful.

[3:38:27] Okay.

[3:38:27] We'll take a recess.

[3:38:30] Tell 6pm.

[3:38:30] Thank you so much everyone.

[4:45:28] And I'll start with

[4:45:30] Nothing Councilor Wright is here yet unless she's online.

[4:45:34] Councillor Wright.

[4:45:37] No, Councillor now.

[4:45:39] Good evening.

[4:45:41] Councillor Stevenson.

[4:45:42] Sorry, Councillor Prince Pay.

[4:45:43] Hello.

[4:45:44] Hello, Councillor Stevenson.

[4:45:46] Good evening.

[4:45:47] Councillor for cat.

[4:45:53] Councillor Tang.

[4:45:54] I believe it's on her way.

[4:45:58] Councillor Hamilton.

[4:46:01] Good evening.

[4:46:02] Good evening.

[4:46:03] Councillor rather thanford.

[4:46:07] Hello.

[4:46:09] Counselor Carmel.

[4:46:12] Counselor Rice.

[4:46:14] Hello.

[4:46:15] Counselor Jans.

[4:46:15] Hello.

[4:46:17] All right.

[4:46:18] Okay.

[4:46:19] So our next item is...

[4:46:23] Uh...

[4:46:23] Wave.

[4:46:24] Wonderful.

[4:46:25] Okay.

[4:46:25] So we have both echo, Kaiser,

[4:46:29] and JC Manine with us this evening from Wave.

[4:46:33] And thank you both so much for being here.

[4:46:35] We have some time for you to offer a bit of presentation in opening remarks, and then we'll go around to see if anyone has questions

[4:46:44] So we'll turn things over to you. Please go ahead.

[4:46:49] Hi, good evening everybody. I don't know why that's not it's so

[4:46:53] Texan for a second, but yeah, really great good evening. Hi, man. I keep the gal. My name is JC Veneen. I am a

[4:47:01] One of the two co-chairs newly elected back in November, 2024, and we're going to be presenting for you guys the animal report for 2024, really exciting.

[4:47:10] So yeah, that's why we're all here.

[4:47:12] But the animal report has been developed to meet the requirements of bylaw 18156 council committees bylaw, which sets out the animal reporting requirements for council committees, such as that we report to council at least once annually along with the approval of a work plan that lines with council strategic objectives.

[4:47:30] and the Council Committee mandate, including a reporting of resources where provided in the previous year and the anticipated resource requirements for the upcoming year.

[4:47:43] Cool, and the next slide. There you go. Thank you. Waves mandate is as followed.

[4:47:47] Provide recommendations to Council about women's and gender-based issues and opportunities in relation to Council policies, priorities, and decisions.

[4:47:55] promote leadership development, to empower administrative women to fully participate in civic life and research and provide information and resources about women's gender-based issues and opportunities to Edmontonians.

[4:48:08] Below, we have strategic goals, not number one, advocate to Edmonton City Council on critical issues affecting women and gender-diverse people to improve quality of life for women and gender-diverse people and a misquite what the Hygan, what the Hygan, sorry.

[4:48:23] And power, women, and gender diverse people to get involved in different ways with municipal government.

[4:48:35] Next slide, please.

[4:48:36] Thank you.

[4:48:38] All right.

[4:48:39] So this is a bit of a summary of the progress that we made in 2024.

[4:48:44] So some of that was we successfully rallied for the creation of A2S LGBTQIA plus action plan for

[4:48:49] single one of our mandate. We also successfully finished equity and motion strongly with

[4:48:55] excellent community turnout for filling goal three of our mandate. We also completed engagement

[4:48:59] with the vehicle for higher team enabling proper training to be mandated for drivers and the

[4:49:03] fling goal two of our mandate. And we also increased overall community engagement through the expansion

[4:49:09] of our social media following across all platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

[4:49:14] allowing for more efficient methods of communication with Edmontonians.

[4:49:19] Next slide please.

[4:49:21] So summary for goal 2.

[4:49:24] Just a overview of this.

[4:49:26] We had diligent engagement with the community safety and well-being strategy team.

[4:49:31] And it's going to be a plus lens was taken in all aspects of the initiative.

[4:49:35] And input resulted in missing aspects of the project being identified and adjusted accordingly.

[4:49:39] We also required training and acted to decrease incidents of discrimination or negative

[4:49:46] writer experience based on gender, religion, ability and sexuality, engagement with the

[4:49:51] transit safety initiative resulted in perspective taken into account that we're not previously

[4:49:56] considered and increased social media following has allowed for greater community engagement

[4:50:00] which is a key tenant of our work.

[4:50:05] And for goal 3, summary of our progress for this, we increased our social meeting engagement,

[4:50:11] following the equity and motion speaker series.

[4:50:14] As was previously mentioned, this increased our community engagement and empowerment strategy.

[4:50:19] We're starting on the creation of a more online content to further empower women and

[4:50:23] generators people.

[4:50:25] We also did a lot of work in magnifying the work of existing organizations,

[4:50:29] which resulted in excellent turnout engagement with their programs.

[4:50:31] further in their mission and the mandate of wave intern and we also had a vast reduction in chair burn out following the implementation of the co-chair model

[4:50:40] Demonstrating the success of this leadership model

[4:50:44] So no co-chair has needed to take a leave of absence contrary to the prior trend of chairs or vice chairs needing to take a leave that was consistent

[4:50:51] Issue that we had noticed and implementing the co-chair model did effectively deal with that problem and

[4:50:57] And we have continued advocacy to reduce burnout among women and gender diverse volunteers and counselors.

[4:51:07] Next slide.

[4:51:08] There we go, thank you.

[4:51:11] Here we go.

[4:51:11] In addition to the aforementioned, we also took on website management, social media management,

[4:51:17] and we met with Edmonton Youth Council, Accessibility Advisory Committee,

[4:51:21] and Energy Transition Climate Resilience Committee to speak with the mayor about the fall budget adjustment.

[4:51:26] We also attended City Hall School events on multiple occasions and attended J. Percy Page High School to teach leadership class about wave.

[4:51:35] We also, I believe, next slide.

[4:51:39] Yes, the things to note for topics and motions for the first quarter are the ongoing discussion to include gender diverse people in the mandate.

[4:51:47] The approval of the Strategic Plan and Work Plan for 2024-2026 involvement with the LRT Infrastructure Planning and Mass Transit Discussion and having a handed approval of the Queer Specific Advisory Committee.

[4:52:01] Number eight also for the second and third quarter.

[4:52:05] We were also involved in priority growth area, rezoning project, approved projects like the active citizen series and a continuation of equity and motion.

[4:52:14] We're also involved in the CSWB strategy in the Violence Prevention Action Plan.

[4:52:20] And finally, for the last quarter, the Co-Chair Model Pilot was a success and was amended into our bylaw.

[4:52:28] We're involved in the fall budget discussion.

[4:52:30] We had co-chair nominations and liais with the eminent police commission. New policy, subcommittee co-chairs, and we also had discussions about what our social media presence was going to look like after Paredo's contract ended. Also, we were involved in the Affordable Housing Investment Policy.

[4:52:51] Oh, we're a couple of slides behind. Sorry. There we go. Okay, next one more slide and then one more.

[4:53:00] There we go. Now we're here. For a communication, we sent many, but the highlights are the public spaces by law briefing.

[4:53:09] The briefing on safe and inclusive public spaces related to the queer advisory committee, a letter regarding the corporate homelessness plan.

[4:53:17] and the letter regarding the fall budget adjustment.

[4:53:22] Our current membership is as follows on the screen, and that's next slide.

[4:53:26] Sorry, I talk very fast. Sorry.

[4:53:30] Our current membership is as follows on the screen.

[4:53:33] We have a couple people leaving, but we're just finishing up our recruitment cycle.

[4:53:45] So for the work plan for the incoming year,

[4:53:50] I'm going to talk a little bit about that next slide, please.

[4:53:53] So some of the outcomes is developing a framework and process developed to streamline the process.

[4:54:02] Subject matter, expert network developed and consulted as needed.

[4:54:06] Brief submitted to council on areas of concern and engage with council on critical issues related to the wave mandate.

[4:54:12] You can see the action items outlined here for that for goal 1.

[4:54:16] for goal 2. If you can go to the next slide, please.

[4:54:23] So, again, for this one, we have relevant city of Edmonton branches, are informed

[4:54:28] and engaged on waves area of interest.

[4:54:30] Waves impact is measured through a tracking framework that was previously mentioned.

[4:54:34] Research sharing is implemented into the social media strategy, as well as encouraging feedback

[4:54:38] from community. An input section will be added to the website to allow for direct communication

[4:54:43] with community on key issues that directly affect them, and implementation of the financial

[4:54:48] Friday's project in the Indigenous Learning Series on social media and the Wave website.

[4:54:59] So, also part of our empower women and digital diverse people get involved with different ways.

[4:55:04] We also have help women and gender diverse people learn about how to engage with council on critical

[4:55:09] issues, identifying support groups that help promote gender diversity on council, civic engagement,

[4:55:15] Identify areas to reduce burnout with women and gender-diverse people on council and on with.

[4:55:21] Identify and advocate for the removal of barriers to civic engagement that would disproportionately affect women and gender-diverse people.

[4:55:28] We also have equity in motion, the podcast will act as a continuation of original equity in motion speaker series.

[4:55:35] But the podcast format will make the project more accessible and allow for a wider reach.

[4:55:40] This project continues the work of the original speaker series by educating and empowering women to get

[4:55:46] and gendered diverse people to get involved in municipal governments through various areas of impact.

[4:55:52] The active citizenship social media and website project will further act as an education and empowerment tool

[4:55:59] and then the continued with the involvement with City Health School.

[4:56:06] So, in line with goal one, we would like to request the policy subcommittee to be continued as it was from last year.

[4:56:15] This subcommittee will continue to be tasked with drafting briefing notes, letters, and conducting additional research all to be deliberated during main committee meetings.

[4:56:24] While the committee as a whole will contribute to thought leadership, the actual drafting, editing, and gathering of information will be undertaken within the policy subcommittee.

[4:56:33] So, motions pertinent to this endeavor will be proposed by the committee as a whole during the

[4:56:38] regular meetings for the subcommittee to address.

[4:56:41] Transfine this workload to the subcommittee will allow for the main monthly meetings to

[4:56:46] prioritize delegation actions and discussions given the time intensive nature of drafting

[4:56:52] and compiling involving the entire committee is more or less unnecessary for that.

[4:56:57] Moreover, Swift Action is often required when submitting letters and correspondences to

[4:57:02] Edmonton City Council and a dedicated subcommittee can ensure accountability and proactive

[4:57:08] engagements among its members facilitating timely research and initial drafts.

[4:57:13] Administrative supports to run the subcommittee will be required with respect to attending the

[4:57:18] monthly meetings, live streaming and subcommittee agendas and meeting minutes.

[4:57:22] A co-chair model will be maintained for the subcommittee to ensure accountability and

[4:57:26] work in the work and to for the reduced burnouts

[4:57:32] and that's it. I don't have any questions for us.

[4:57:37] Great, well thank you so much for the presentation and thorough overview. I'll go to

[4:57:44] Councillor Rutherford if you'd like to put the motion on the floor and if you have any questions.

[4:57:49] Yeah, I'll move that the women's advisory voice of Edmonton's committee request to establish

[4:57:54] one subcommittee for the 2025 Work Plan as LINE and Attachment 3, be approved.

[4:58:04] Great.

[4:58:04] And do you have any questions?

[4:58:07] Yes,

[4:58:11] you mentioned the podcast as one of the actions for 2025, when is the first

[4:58:19] one going to drop?

[4:58:21] It is currently slated for the end of March.

[4:58:25] Amazing.

[4:58:26] I mean, and what's that topic on?

[4:58:27] Can you just give, give, give,

[4:58:30] the many end-mentonians that are listening today.

[4:58:34] A teaser in what they,

[4:58:37] Sure, so the first episode is going to be talking about

[4:58:40] the world of women and gender diverse people in sports

[4:58:43] and how that relates to municipal governance.

[4:58:46] We're also going to be having another episode on law

[4:58:48] and then the last one will be a social activism.

[4:58:52] Great, very cool.

[4:58:55] So anybody listening?

[4:58:56] Watch for it to drop.

[4:59:03] I asked the same question to the ETS advisor board as the council appointed member there.

[4:59:08] I think that there is just a challenge around some of the sequencing, and I know because you're wanting to give the women in gender diverse perspective on things that affect

[4:59:18] decisions of council and then sometimes again I mentioned if the report's not coming out and then by the time the report comes out

[4:59:27] You don't have another committee of the whole in which to approve it. Is it really challenging?

[4:59:31] So I just wanted to give you space to sort of talk a bit about that and how council can support

[4:59:39] That like sequencing for you for you for way to be able to successfully share their voice

[4:59:50] That is something that we've had a fair bit of difficulty with in the past that we've had very quick turnaround

[4:59:56] We're talking like a few days to we hear about an issue and then

[5:00:00] And then we have to very quickly draft a letter or some kind of briefing, which is very difficult when you have people that work full-time day jobs.

[5:00:09] That's part of what the policies of committee will help with, but having a little bit more warning when things are coming out.

[5:00:16] So we have time to discuss as a committee. So we're not having to scramble via email to figure out what position we're going to take on certain things.

[5:00:23] Does having a little bit more worrying for things would be appreciated?

[5:00:30] Yes.

[5:00:31] Thank you.

[5:00:32] And I'm going to ask each of you what is one thing that you want to highlight is a pressing

[5:00:40] thing that as a woman or gender diverse person.

[5:00:44] What is a pressing thing that council needs to be thinking about with regards to making decisions

[5:00:50] for women and gender diverse folks.

[5:00:56] I think one of the biggest things just because things are getting so expensive right now

[5:01:01] is just considering that budget and then also considering just, I feel like as someone

[5:01:08] that is a woman that, you know, is taking care of my family and everything, it's getting so

[5:01:13] expensive out there times are really tough.

[5:01:15] I live downtown, I see a lot of people that are, that are helpless, that are really struggling

[5:01:20] out there as well and it's just a matter of one looking at her budget, looking at all the expenses

[5:01:26] that are just going to be increasing because we're heading into a horrible, horrible year when

[5:01:31] it comes to money issues but if that's something that can be considered that would be awesome

[5:01:35] but also if we can also add just a lot more consideration we're thinking about our houseless neighbors

[5:01:41] as well. You know these are people that I'm on but I see every morning when I'm going to work

[5:01:45] and they're my neighbors too and so thinking about them I think that would be really awesome as well.

[5:01:54] For me, as a gender diverse person, somebody that's very visibly a trans person, there are many places in the city that I do not go.

[5:02:03] There are places that I avoid. When I'm in public, I don't use the public washrooms. I don't belong in the men's washroom,

[5:02:10] because I'm scared of being harassed or hate-crimeed, and I don't want to go into the women's washroom because I don't want to make women uncomfortable.

[5:02:16] This is something that affects me and pretty much any other generous person that you ask.

[5:02:21] I can guarantee we all have at least one story of getting nasty looks or being approached in the washrooms.

[5:02:30] Or just like being in public and not feeling like I am welcome.

[5:02:34] Or for those of us that have not had the money or the time to legally change our name.

[5:02:39] They're often a lot of spaces that force you to use your legal name and don't give you a space to put a preferred name

[5:02:46] or to put pronouns, things like that.

[5:02:48] These are things that I think about every single day.

[5:02:50] These are things that all trans people think about every single day.

[5:02:53] So I would strongly encourage everybody on council

[5:02:55] to consider that at the very least,

[5:02:57] when we're thinking about washrooms and public spaces,

[5:02:59] we all need to use the washroom.

[5:03:00] And I want to be able to use the washroom,

[5:03:02] safety, safely, and in comfort.

[5:03:05] Great, thank you so much.

[5:03:07] Thank you.

[5:03:08] It comes to a rate.

[5:03:10] Thank you very much.

[5:03:11] I'm just wondering about with peridose contract,

[5:03:15] Running out? How are you going to manage those communications do you have like specific people on

[5:03:23] committee or? Yes, so when we found out about that we very quickly created a social media

[5:03:31] kind of ad hoc workforce to deal with that. So it's not an official subcommittee by any means and

[5:03:37] the capacity is reduced compared to when we had formal social media support but we do have a few

[5:03:44] people that handle a lot of our social media and our website.

[5:03:49] OK, so that spread out as well.

[5:03:50] So you're not going to get burnout of those volunteers, either.

[5:03:54] Yeah, we actually reached out to the Edmonton Youth Council

[5:03:57] because they managed their own social media.

[5:03:59] So we asked them how they do it, and they gave us a very comprehensive

[5:04:02] overview of how they managed the social media

[5:04:05] while also considering burnout and the stress of the volunteers.

[5:04:08] That's awesome to hear that you are reaching out to others.

[5:04:11] OK, great to hear.

[5:04:11] Um, because JC, you were kind of, you weren't looking as comfortable or as confident as echo was in that response.

[5:04:19] You, you got a little more hesitation on that?

[5:04:22] No, I think, uh, with wave, I've, they've done nothing but an awesome job when it came to social media.

[5:04:28] I think, um, when we're looking at, I think, I feel like with wave we're still in those,

[5:04:34] and think those building block stages where we're looking at, you know,

[5:04:38] how much do we want to speak and how much do we want to say on certain topics, what can we say on certain topics and stuff like that and so it's

[5:04:47] but I have full trust in wave and I think social media thus far if you've checked out our pages then really actually really really nice

[5:04:54] yeah it's been really clean and professional so it's looked really good.

[5:04:58] okay awesome okay and actually then that just sort of made me think of something else too

[5:05:05] How have you, and I asked this of the Accessibility Advisory Committee as well, how have you moved from an advocacy role into an advisory role

[5:05:20] and how difficult was that?

[5:05:23] That was something that took place over time.

[5:05:27] It came about, I believe that changed happened a year or so ago at this point.

[5:05:31] So just a matter of having that open discussion with the committee and refocusing what we were

[5:05:38] doing, so that reflected in our strategic plan and our work plan, refocusing and making sure

[5:05:42] that we are keeping in mind council's priorities and focusing on advising, instead of advocating

[5:05:49] per se, which to me is sort of a tomato tomato issue, but for us it was more of a refocusing of

[5:05:56] our work.

[5:05:56] Okay, rather than sort of public advocacy, you were advocating to counsel in an advisory role?

[5:06:03] Yes, that's okay.

[5:06:05] And then in order to, the conflict, as Councillor Rutherford was talking about in the short

[5:06:13] turnaround time for reports and that would it be your preference that maybe admin

[5:06:18] connect with you prior to those reports even actually being printed?

[5:06:27] And then one last question in regards to the speaker series and that with the law, one, do you have someone with that law background?

[5:06:39] I don't want to see, all right, I'd hate to see as far as a sort of a liability against way for maybe providing inaccurate advice or

[5:06:53] I can assure you that we reached out to subject matter experts.

[5:06:57] We did not speak to things that I wouldn't speak to law.

[5:07:00] I don't know about law, but we reached out to some lawyers that we knew.

[5:07:05] So we had speakers come and speak with us.

[5:07:08] We asked them questions.

[5:07:09] They gave really amazing information.

[5:07:11] That goes for all three of the episodes.

[5:07:12] We had subject matter experts come in and talk with us and answer our questions.

[5:07:17] Okay.

[5:07:18] So you're covered.

[5:07:19] We're covered.

[5:07:20] I did my due diligence, sorry.

[5:07:23] I wouldn't have doubted less than that.

[5:07:25] Thank you.

[5:07:27] Great.

[5:07:30] Thank you very much. And for the, for the, for the report and also the work plan for the 2025. I really appreciate the last of work projects and actions were taking any of the past year and then move forward to the future. So the few,

[5:07:52] question here, and for the question one, because we have, yes, we have, we have like

[5:07:59] woman, woman voice, and a specific woman voice, I just want to get a sense of diversity

[5:08:06] site.

[5:08:07] And by looking at, by looking at the activities or the events or project finished, and how

[5:08:15] that diversity he refracts across like the or state or city has like over over 70

[5:08:22] as a bit like the minority communities. How you balance that to get the representatives

[5:08:31] of voice from different minority communities. So I would like to say a little bit more on

[5:08:39] piece to really reflect that's equitable and then equality values there.

[5:08:50] Yeah, with wave, a lot of our members are very diverse and we come from a lot of different

[5:08:56] communities and backgrounds. Part of our recruitment actually is looking at a lot of our

[5:09:01] different, I think we wanted to, we look at the gaps that we're missing, that we

[5:09:10] actually didn't have a lot of members that were, that were her job, but we're Muslim.

[5:09:16] And so we actually went, and that was something that we looked for when it came to recruitment

[5:09:20] to come and have that representation as well. And I think in our recruitment, it'll definitely

[5:09:25] reflect a wider range of different community members as well. When it comes to diverse folks from

[5:09:31] across Edmonton, which is really nice. But yeah, we have a lot of different members that are

[5:09:36] that have that really firm voice at the table, which is awesome.

[5:09:45] Okay, thank you.

[5:09:46] In terms of Tucson 25 work plan,

[5:09:50] and then I'm so glad you see,

[5:09:53] you have different goals,

[5:09:54] and it's a really clear,

[5:09:56] alt-mines and a new work plan.

[5:09:59] Because Tucson 25 is easy,

[5:10:01] like she is.

[5:10:03] It's my understanding,

[5:10:04] and we've got to change

[5:10:06] from like advocacy role to advisor role. So, is there any specific, specific appoint or specific

[5:10:15] thinking and how you separate your certain plan or your action and in a 2025 really

[5:10:24] created that distance between the election and then our waves voice and activities?

[5:10:32] When

[5:10:36] you say election, are you referring to the municipal election or the culture?

[5:10:41] Yes, the municipal, municipal election, because you talk about, I heard the presentation,

[5:10:46] talk about some kind of election, with the city council or something, so how that distance

[5:10:51] will be created and between that election, all the municipal elections and then, so also weaves

[5:11:00] work and then, well, that dispense. I don't think that it's possible for us as a municipal

[5:11:10] advisory committee to have distance from the election, because it directly affects both

[5:11:15] of us in turn, us as a committee, and you as a counselor. So I'm not entirely sure what

[5:11:22] you're asking because we are a product of council.

[5:11:31] So, what I mean is for election, election years are so many activities going on, there's so many campaigns going on and what do you face with role and create that distance between you

[5:11:49] actual projects and then between your projects, your actions and then all, and even when

[5:11:57] you are doing the social media and the media and the campaign and a full certain candidates

[5:12:04] and doing. So, is there any, any, any way to look at this other distance there?

[5:12:12] Yeah, I think with Wave, something that we've done that is we're going to follow through for the

[5:12:17] years actually reducing our scope quite a bit. So we'll be focusing a lot more on that advisory

[5:12:24] piece with Council, so we'll be having a lot more of our boys be hopefully heard a lot more

[5:12:30] with Council and we'll be working with Erin Rutherford as well, Councillor Erin Rutherford

[5:12:34] Rutherford Rutherford is awesome. So that's something we'll be moving forward with as far as

[5:12:39] projects are going again with their reduction in social media and a reduction in just um well

[5:12:45] Our budget is fairly the same, which is great, but that's something we're looking at, especially for this new year,

[5:12:52] and with this team that we have as well. So it's just that reducing that scope quite a bit,

[5:12:56] by primarily focusing our efforts instead of being more outwardly,

[5:13:00] we're, is that make sense? We're being a bit more inwardly and working directly with Council,

[5:13:04] as we can. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. My time is out.

[5:13:08] Councillor Tain. Yeah, great. Thank you. Yeah, that goal number three also really intrigued me as well.

[5:13:16] And I think it's excellent that that you're making that one of your central work.

[5:13:22] I mean, when I think about how we've started, it was by Councillor Bev, as ginger,

[5:13:26] when there was only one woman on council. And then two. And so I think it's really important.

[5:13:32] I guess my question is, you know, I do see there's a lot of organizations, groups in

[5:13:38] eminent, kind of supporting similar efforts in civic engagement.

[5:13:41] I know you're just mentioned that you're trying to work more internally, but are you aware

[5:13:46] of them, are you connecting with them, are you partnering?

[5:13:50] Definitely, for sure, we did get a fair few presentations from these organizations because part

[5:13:56] of what we want to do is elevate the organizations that are already existing, that are doing

[5:13:59] a fantastic work for women and gender diverse people in Edmonton, our scope as a council advisory committee is of course limited so we do we can in elevating the work of these organizations because it's falls within our area, but it does fall outside of our scope so in that way we're

[5:14:17] support word sort of artificially inflating our scope by supporting these other organizations as well.

[5:14:23] Yeah, I think because I do see a lot of parallels in seeing greater gender parity in municipal councils,

[5:14:30] which I think is a real risk.

[5:14:33] We may even lose the momentum we have.

[5:14:36] That's certainly the conversation I'm hearing from.

[5:14:39] Sorry, not in this room, but certainly a lot of colleagues across the province.

[5:14:44] I think this group has reached out to myself and Councilor Rutherford,

[5:14:48] but I just want to make sure you're aware about some of the research that came out a couple years ago.

[5:14:53] with the barriers project that highlighted the challenges that women and gender diverse local

[5:14:59] I'd like to finish all the things.

[5:15:01] And is there a way to kind of build on that work, you know, are you connecting with them? And just want to make sure that they're on your way to her.

[5:15:11] Interestingly, that you mentioned that a wave member had an idea for a project that has not been yet brought up at a wave meeting. So I can't actually say anything yet because it hasn't been discussed or approved just yet, but it is something that's on a rate of yes.

[5:15:27] Thank you. I don't have any more questions, but I will say just really value, you know, you have a long history of doing very nonpartisan

[5:15:38] Excellent community work and bowel raising the profile of a women in policy and politics, and so I just encourage you continue on that path. Thank you.

[5:15:48] Councilor Roy, are you on for a second round?

[5:15:51] Something like to move that?

[5:15:52] It's all moved.

[5:15:54] Please vote.

[5:16:01] Yes.

[5:16:02] Thank you, Councilor Roy.

[5:16:06] Yes.

[5:16:07] Thank you, Councillor Hartmel.

[5:16:08] We have all the votes.

[5:16:09] Just leave the vote.

[5:16:12] That's carried.

[5:16:13] Go ahead.

[5:16:14] Thank you.

[5:16:15] I just serve, I guess, following up, maybe,

[5:16:18] from Councilor Roy's questions,

[5:16:22] like you're not wave itself

[5:16:25] being a product council.

[5:16:26] you're not campaigning or endorsing any candidates?

[5:16:32] No, because we cannot.

[5:16:33] OK, OK.

[5:16:35] I just wanted to make sure of that.

[5:16:39] And then, but you are able to, well, no, maybe you can't either.

[5:16:45] I'm about encouraging people to vote in the municipal election

[5:16:49] is or is that more of an advocacy role?

[5:16:54] That is something that we're going to be discussing actually relating to the upcoming

[5:17:00] municipal election in our meeting tomorrow.

[5:17:04] Okay.

[5:17:04] Actually, so a lot of this is quite timely.

[5:17:07] It's something that we are thinking about as a committee, as we come up to the municipal

[5:17:11] elections.

[5:17:12] We want to make sure that we're seeing continued gender parity.

[5:17:15] That's part of our mandate is to empower women and gender diverse people to participate

[5:17:20] in municipal governance.

[5:17:21] So it's something that we do discuss.

[5:17:22] Yes.

[5:17:22] Okay.

[5:17:23] Perfect. Awesome. And just thank you for continuing your presentations at City Hall School as well.

[5:17:30] For God about that. Thank you.

[5:17:33] Great. Thank you so much. Not seeing anyone else on for questions.

[5:17:37] If there's anyone who would like to speak, you can sign up now.

[5:17:45] Not but go to Councillor Rutherford.

[5:17:48] Just clicking on to say to speak.

[5:17:51] Well, first and foremost, you know, this is a 2024 report. I want to take a moment to think

[5:17:58] the outgoing co-chairs that did an amazing job in 2024, so we had Julianne through fall,

[5:18:08] and we had Arisa Jua that were on the co-chairs until November 2024, so a big part of last year,

[5:18:18] And so, a lot of the credit for what has happened in 2024 is a result of them and every other member of Wave, of course, but I do want to just give them and then I want to say a big thank you to JC and Echo for stepping up and co-chairing together and jumping into that with your hearts and with the passion that I've seen you bringing every day, I have no doubt that 2025 will be amazing with the two of you at the helm.

[5:18:48] And I want to thank Councillor Wright because Councillor Wright and I are also were co-appointed

[5:18:54] in 2024 to—

[5:18:59] So we had two Councillors appointed to WAVE.

[5:19:02] We decided just from capacity and other things that it just made sense to just have one.

[5:19:08] I was lucky enough to win the arm wrestle with Councillor Wright and not just kidding.

[5:19:15] She's busy with commission work and I have really been passionate about this so I just want

[5:19:21] to say thank you for her being there for when we first both got appointed and all of the

[5:19:26] collective we work we did I think it's helped me to take that baton and keep running.

[5:19:37] When it comes to advisory I think that that transition has been hard for many of our committees

[5:19:43] And the wave is no doubt I think Councillor Tang really highlighted it well of the birth

[5:19:52] of this committee was from a very different space in a very different time when there was

[5:19:59] a lone woman on council and there was many women issues facing our city that still exists

[5:20:06] today, but there wasn't the same voice on council to represent that.

[5:20:11] But that being said, I think Councillor Rice brings up a very good point around, that there's still

[5:20:17] barriers for by-pock folks to have a seat at this table.

[5:20:23] I still think about how we've never had a black representative on city council in our history as

[5:20:29] Edmontonians.

[5:20:31] And so it is still a comment upon us, even though we have reached parity and I hope we

[5:20:36] pain parity for in 2021 around women and men.

[5:20:44] I would love to see some gender-diverse folks, or trans folks at the table.

[5:20:50] I'd like to see some more BIPOC folks at the table, so there's still more work to be done.

[5:20:55] And I think Wave has a big role in making sure that that intersectionality is always at

[5:21:00] the forefront of our minds and our thoughts and continues to keep pushing us and challenging

[5:21:05] us to make safe and inclusive spaces that we're pushing for and I want to thank my council

[5:21:12] colleagues for you know everything that wave is brought forward from the vehicle for higher

[5:21:16] to the safe and inclusive spaces have been resoundedly supported by this council and so I

[5:21:23] thank my colleagues for that too. Look forward to working with you more in 2025.

[5:21:30] Please vote. Thank you.

[5:21:42] Yes. Thank you guys for coming.

[5:21:50] Councilor Rutherford, which is waiting for your vote.

[5:21:52] Yes. Thank you. We have all the votes.

[5:21:55] Display the vote.

[5:21:59] That's carried. Excellent.

[5:22:01] Thanks so much for this discussion everyone.

[5:22:03] And thank you both for being with us today.

[5:22:06] Yeah, I really appreciate everything that you're doing as part of Wave.

[5:22:11] And looking forward to the podcast too.

[5:22:14] I'll add to my list.

[5:22:15] I edited that myself. So hopefully it's good.

[5:22:18] Amazing! Amazing! Okay, well well well well, well at it. Thank you both so much. All right, we're gonna

[5:22:24] move on to our next item. You can feel free to stick around, but it's up to you!

[5:22:31] Next up, we're going to go to City Department to Newt Council. And I believe Ali and Angelina are joining us online, they are joining us online, you know, fantastic.

[5:22:43] All right. Ali and Angelina, are you on with us?

[5:22:52] Yes, are you animals? Yes, there we go. Very nice to see both of you. We have your slide deck up and ready to go.

[5:23:00] So we're going to give you a bit of time to walk us through that and then we'll transition over to some questions from counselors.

[5:23:07] Have you had the floor?

[5:23:10] Yes.

[5:23:10] Okay, awesome.

[5:23:13] Yeah, sorry.

[5:23:14] Just before we get started, should I just call out like slide for this slide?

[5:23:18] Yes.

[5:23:19] That would be great.

[5:23:20] Okay, awesome.

[5:23:22] Yeah.

[5:23:22] Good evening.

[5:23:23] Good evening.

[5:23:24] Everyone.

[5:23:24] My name is Ali Ahmed.

[5:23:26] and I am the COVID or one of the coaches for this

[5:23:28] adjournance in Youth Council this term.

[5:23:30] And I'm Angelina Reina, the other co-chair for this term.

[5:23:34] Slide please.

[5:23:37] Thank you.

[5:23:37] Yeah, this year actually marks CUC's 30th anniversary,

[5:23:41] so we are especially excited to be presenting to you this evening.

[5:23:46] Our agenda for today is as follows.

[5:23:49] First we'll talk about what is CUC then where did these starts

[5:23:52] at the beginning of the term.

[5:23:54] then where are we now and finally where are we heading?

[5:23:59] Slide.

[5:24:02] So our mission as the City of Edmonton Youth Council is to educate and empower youth to provide meaningful input and to take action on local issues and useful politics.

[5:24:12] We do so through our mandate of providing information advice to the Council according by law.

[5:24:19] And we do this by in relation to issues involving or affecting youth by empowering our members through leadership,

[5:24:26] training and service opportunities.

[5:24:29] See you, I see membership is composed of young people aged 13 to 23.

[5:24:33] Now, this demographic tends to be the most engaged on local issues, but has the least power

[5:24:38] on paper, at least in affecting them.

[5:24:41] As people under 18 can't vote, and most youth up to 23 are self and actually dependent.

[5:24:46] So, USC is so important because it provides youth and avenue for real action on local issues.

[5:24:50] And this does truly contribute to the personal development and political education of young

[5:24:56] people.

[5:24:56] A lot of CYC members come on to work in council offices, their schools, unions, and they

[5:25:01] continue to develop skills that they began to first nurture in CYC.

[5:25:08] In there are over 180,000 people between the ages of 10 and 24 living in Edmonton, according

[5:25:13] to the 2021 census, and that number is certainly much higher now.

[5:25:17] This goes to show how critical a user presentation is and will continue to be particularly

[5:25:21] in this event.

[5:25:23] Like please.

[5:25:26] Okay, now where did we start?

[5:25:30] Um, do one more slide please.

[5:25:32] Sorry.

[5:25:33] Um, now this slide is somewhat misleading because we actually carried over our strategic planning

[5:25:37] from last year, um, which took over, which took place in December 23.

[5:25:42] Um, this is then mainly because our members were still quite happy with this strategic plan

[5:25:46] from last year and it was just the same time in this term.

[5:25:51] I mean, overarching values for this term are community safety and wellbeing, governance and

[5:25:55] indigenous awareness, and we incorporate this into all of the work that we do.

[5:25:59] Plan.

[5:26:05] So now we'll talk a bit about where we are going over a subcommittees and their relevance to

[5:26:10] CYC.

[5:26:11] The initiatives they're involved in and how they contribute to our mandate.

[5:26:14] Currently, as far as stats are concerned, we have 86 members working with CYC to say

[5:26:20] 20 VCMs and then use the large members files, which is a position that allows as many

[5:26:25] used to get involved as possible with this council in our take center outreach and give

[5:26:30] young people a lower stake opportunities to join.

[5:26:34] Slide,

[5:26:37] fun visual, slide again.

[5:26:43] Is that one more slide?

[5:26:45] Thank you.

[5:26:47] So firstly, the policy subcommittee.

[5:26:49] This is the most straightforward and obvious one, as it allows young people to become more

[5:26:54] who's been involved by looking at policies that focus or interest in and also keeping up with

[5:26:59] what city council is currently working on. So this committee makes recommendations to council

[5:27:03] through reports they write, through meetings with council liaison and other means.

[5:27:09] The policies of committee is headed by two chairs and is made up of members who are on different

[5:27:13] initiatives. The following initiatives are the ones that we chose for this year. First is community

[5:27:18] safety and well-being, which is working on its outreach to use through various channels of getting

[5:27:23] survey out together data on how young people think of community and interact with community

[5:27:27] along with their impressions of safety and the city. They will also be looking at already

[5:27:32] collected data along with their own and hopefully present a comprehensive or presented comprehensive

[5:27:36] report to council within the upcoming year. Our second initiative is Addictions, which is

[5:27:43] working to release. It was working to release a survey to gauge youth engaged with Addictions in order

[5:27:48] to write a report but has since re-directed itself to working more closely in administration

[5:27:52] on the city's upcoming drug strategy so that COAC and the city's future plans are closely

[5:27:58] aligned.

[5:27:59] We also have the anti-racism initiative.

[5:28:01] This is based on connecting with schools to provide anti-racism education, conducting focus

[5:28:07] groups to report to council and encourage more schools to be involved in this education campaign.

[5:28:13] And last on least, engagement, more so and ad hoc initiative that involves engaging

[5:28:18] the City Council policies as they're being discussed by responding to them in real time,

[5:28:22] just through the public spaces by law, and we're continuing to encourage young people through

[5:28:27] this initiative to become more comfortable with policy as a poll by encouraging them to attend

[5:28:33] public hearings and person, but something that's difficult to do with school schedules.

[5:28:40] Yeah, and this committee fulfills sections A, F, K, and H of a mandate.

[5:28:44] Just a name of you, which is to say that the policy subcommittee is many times use

[5:28:48] really first foray into reading and analyzing policy.

[5:28:52] The current structure allows them the freedom to research issues at the intersection of youth and municipalities by having an incredibly direct and straightforward connection with the city and registration

[5:29:01] who are always there to support us and counsel through our two council liaison.

[5:29:06] It's incredibly important that young people are given the opportunity to do this policy work and secondly can do so with community and support.

[5:29:14] Slide please.

[5:29:17] Okay, projects of committee is CYC's largest subcommittee and it allows young people to act on policy recommendations and policies through projects.

[5:29:27] Young people have the opportunity to put on events that align the values of our mandate and the city to build community and belonging while also working on project management skills.

[5:29:36] The subcommittee has led by two chairs and has the following initiatives.

[5:29:40] Firstly, the youth summit, which aims to bring youth from diverse backgrounds together in a safe and inclusive space to discuss their experiences of racism, mental health and steward typing.

[5:29:51] This will be a flow-day event which will include collaborative sessions and guest speakers and a set to be in May.

[5:29:57] The second initiative is on the suit.

[5:30:01] This is an initiative partnering with the Alberta Health Services Community Helpers Program to provide the suicide prevention training for Edmonton Union.

[5:30:10] This subcommittee fulfills sections, B. D. E. F. In each of our mandates, once again name a few, as this is subcommittee that is our largest and therefore more visible to use.

[5:30:20] It's incredibly important, as far as actualizing the policies that youths work on is concerned,

[5:30:26] so young people have the opportunity to practice interpreting policy, and then putting it into action.

[5:30:31] A much growth occurs here as people have different interpretations and understandings of municipal services,

[5:30:37] and what sort of projects they can actually work on.

[5:30:40] And at the end, everyone leaves having more concrete event management skills and the ability to more effectively actualize abstract values and policies.

[5:30:48] Next

[5:30:51] slide please.

[5:30:56] Thank you.

[5:30:57] The internal subcommittee works to organize CYC internally, and is made up of the following

[5:31:02] initiatives currently.

[5:31:04] Firstly, we have networking.

[5:31:06] This initiative is created to allow young people to network with one another, so different

[5:31:09] schools, grades, while also involving some industry professionals to share their career

[5:31:14] paths.

[5:31:15] Secondly, public relations.

[5:31:17] This initiative works to organize and create CYC's image, such as running our

[5:31:23] Instagram, share, info, better initiatives, educating young people on city policy and is working

[5:31:29] to also update our website.

[5:31:31] This committee currently fulfills sections EF and GE of our mandate as it works to organize

[5:31:37] members, provide networking opportunities and overall promote balance.

[5:31:41] And as we already know, CYC had three subcommittees that each oversee a number of initiatives.

[5:31:46] This subcommittee structure has a whole allows CYC to accomplish a greater scope of work

[5:31:51] and provides meaningful opportunities for civic engagement

[5:31:55] to the 20 council appointed PCMs,

[5:31:58] so go to committee members and 60,

[5:32:01] approximately 60 as the number of fluctuates

[5:32:03] throughout the year, use a large members.

[5:32:05] So the internal subcommittee is mainly tasked

[5:32:07] with the administration of organizing CYC as a whole

[5:32:11] and is responsible for its image.

[5:32:13] We are currently planning on changing the structure

[5:32:15] of this subcommittee as it has historically

[5:32:17] held low attendance from the current initiative

[5:32:20] to be a structure that it has now to something that will more easily allow the administrative

[5:32:23] tasks of COSc to be done. Now, this is currently still being deliberated with FAN

[5:32:28] Council for this term. As you may know, we don't currently have an external body

[5:32:33] maintaining our board's image, so things like social media. So, communicating, so

[5:32:37] communicating with youth through the internal subcommittee is an important tool for us

[5:32:41] that comes a little, or a no-cost to council while it allows us to organize ourselves

[5:32:45] more meaningfully. And we will continue to re-structure with the support of our members

[5:32:50] so that we have a more efficient and effective internal subcommittee.

[5:32:55] Slide please.

[5:32:57] Thank you.

[5:32:58] Yeah, this is just to slide that gives like a visual representation

[5:33:02] of the different initiatives on these subcommittees that they belong to.

[5:33:07] Slide please.

[5:33:09] And lastly, where are we going?

[5:33:12] One more slide.

[5:33:15] So we wanted to propose the following recommendations to Council.

[5:33:20] We'd like to request City Council to allow us to change our terms, which are currently September 1st to August 31st to the proposed August 1st to July 30th,

[5:33:30] essentially just pushing the timeline back a month.

[5:33:33] Reasoning for this is that even if CYC technically functions on a 12 month annual term, like all the other committees,

[5:33:40] other boards, because we work with a largely student population, exam months and summer months

[5:33:46] are incredibly slow times. So, December to January, along with April June, are exam times,

[5:33:52] and July August is vacation time for EPSB students. Currently, we have our orientation meeting

[5:33:58] in September. We hold our main elections in October, and our initiatives usually presents in November,

[5:34:03] with many coming back for edits in December for re-approval. Therefore, initiatives don't start an

[5:34:09] and until December, January, which is already a slow time for them and realistically only gives them four to five months to work on their initiative.

[5:34:19] Our proposed timeline would allow us to hold our orientation meeting in the later half of August, keeping in mind still vacation time so the later half of August,

[5:34:29] and we can complete election duties in September so that initiatives can be proposed and October.

[5:34:34] This is a fruitful one that students are able to invest more time in their initiatives,

[5:34:39] be extremely productive if they were able to make a meaningful start at this time before

[5:34:44] they were bogged down by exams, and then initiatives will be able to keep their momentum

[5:34:48] as they would be supplemented by the fact that they already made a start at this point in the year.

[5:34:54] Awesome.

[5:34:55] The second major recommendation that we'd like to make is to permanently shift the timing of this report to

[5:35:00] in the A, so that it aligns with the timing of the membership report.

[5:35:04] Now providing an annual report in February as we are currently required to do, limits

[5:35:08] our ability to accurately report on the work of COIC and just provide an accurate work

[5:35:13] plan.

[5:35:14] Moving this time on is crucial for us to get to accurately depict the comprehensive work

[5:35:18] that is being completed by our board and presented a more thorough report to you, City Council.

[5:35:24] Another concern with the reporting time lane, as it is right now, in regards to the subcommittee

[5:35:28] is in regards to the subcommittee approval process.

[5:35:31] Now, the subcommittees for this term were formed in October

[5:35:33] and are already formed into their work.

[5:35:36] If CUSC remains on the same reporting timeline

[5:35:38] as other advisory boards, it will cause challenges

[5:35:40] in each term's planning phase when we seek

[5:35:43] to request the continuation of our subcommittee model.

[5:35:46] Additionally, we're also concerned

[5:35:48] about maintaining the progress of each subcommittees work

[5:35:50] while allowing for the incorporation

[5:35:52] of any recommended changes from council.

[5:35:55] The current reporting timeline and requirement

[5:35:56] for Council approval on subcommittees that are midway through their term could potentially end

[5:36:01] work that is already underway, putting both Council and our boards in a challenging position.

[5:36:08] So for all those reasons, we'd like to propose a new timeline where COIC would report

[5:36:11] to Council in May, just to ensure that we are aligned with COIC's work calendar, as well

[5:36:16] as being able to contribute a more informed and meaningful report to City Council at your slide.

[5:36:24] Here's a list of some upcoming events that are worth sharing your constituents, any young

[5:36:29] people that might be interested.

[5:36:31] We have GA General Assembly happening on April 2nd, the use summit on social justice sometime

[5:36:38] in early May, as well as BCM applications will open in early May and the CYC working event

[5:36:44] will happen on June 4th.

[5:36:47] This list only includes dates and events for people of strong to CYC, so we'll continue

[5:36:51] to work on initiatives like those in policy and internal in the background, as well.

[5:36:57] One more slide.

[5:37:00] Okay.

[5:37:00] Lastly, just how to get involved.

[5:37:02] So we strongly encourage you to attend and support our events to consult CYC on matters of discussion.

[5:37:10] To invite CYC to be part of collaborations with other groups and invite youth in your words to apply.

[5:37:15] We've been very happy to see a more consultation with CYC this term on things like the full budget adjustment

[5:37:20] and public spaces by law. And when we're very eager to see more of that in the future.

[5:37:26] Slide, please.

[5:37:29] Yes.

[5:37:30] So with that, we've reached the end of this presentation. Thank you so much for listening and we'll be happy to take any questions.

[5:37:36] Thank you.

[5:37:36] Great, thank you so much for the presentation. We'll now go to questions from colleagues. Councilor Jans, would you like to put a recommendation on the phone?

[5:37:46] I'll move the recommendation, yes.

[5:37:52] Second,

[5:37:56] Michael, are you concerned Jans, go ahead if you have any questions?

[5:37:58] I just wanted to ask a little bit more about that upcoming event and how you're going to promote it to other youths across the city of Edmonton.

[5:38:08] I believe you said me, right?

[5:38:12] The Symposium.

[5:38:14] Yes, so I guess I can like start.

[5:38:19] So typically the way that we get most of our engagement in terms of like youth coming to events just by word of mouth.

[5:38:25] I'm just because we have views from all of the city all kinds of different schools, but we are also, like I think I think we've actually just talked about this too

[5:38:33] We do have a new social media plan going happening with our internal security and so that's another way that we reach out to you

[5:38:41] We'll also again like we've come here, you know, like one of the reasons

[5:38:46] There's something that I think I try to do a lot is also just reach out to our own personal connections with other organizations

[5:38:52] As you know, we used to tend to be involved in like as many things as possible

[5:38:56] So yeah, it's a lot of sort of networking to try to get as much engagement as possible

[5:39:02] Also to add on to that for this particular initiative

[5:39:06] I believe

[5:39:08] One network that they would tap into is the student senate system, so that's within EPSB contacting

[5:39:14] students senators, so they can then pass the information down into their catchments schools

[5:39:18] as they are appointed to do.

[5:39:21] So that's one network that we try to tap into when it comes to sharing information, and then also emailing

[5:39:26] high schools as need be.

[5:39:28] Yeah, actually that was my next question was, is the student senate at the Edmonton Public Schools

[5:39:34] still functioning and are you connected to them and you've already answered that. So that's that's excellent. That that's

[5:39:40] it certainly gives you a wide a wide amplification. Well, keep up the great work and yeah, I'll yield my time. Thank you.

[5:39:49] Thank you. Councillor Neckon, can you take the chair please?

[5:39:52] I've got the chair. Thank you. Yeah, once again, thank you for the thorough presentation and for all the

[5:39:58] to see why she's been doing. Maybe I'll just pick up on a few things. So the request

[5:40:06] around changing the term, and actually this might be better directed towards administration,

[5:40:12] just trying to understand is it difficult to have variability in what those term timelines look

[5:40:20] like, what would the implications be of making that kind of change?

[5:40:26] So in terms of this meeting

[5:40:27] particular would mean that if those timelines are shifted, they're not coming with all the other

[5:40:31] annual reports, they'd come to a regular council meeting, which is something the implemented

[5:40:35] a few years ago to bring them all together, but it doesn't mean it can't be changed.

[5:40:39] Okay, so I have a bit of the history here, so they used to be more dispersed, and then there was an

[5:40:44] intentional move to bring them all together, so we're dealing with them as we are today.

[5:40:49] Yeah, for both recruitment and annual reports, I'd say there certainly is value in having one

[5:40:53] cycle and doing it all at one time, so you have a holistic look, but it can be split.

[5:40:57] Okay, okay, yeah, and I mean, I can, I definitely, I definitely can hear some of the challenges with timing and just how that lines up with school and exam season at the same time, being able to do this in one go, makes a lot of sense on R&D administratively,

[5:41:20] okay, and then I will just jump over to a question around the subcommittee.

[5:41:25] So right now there's recommendation on the floor to establish three subcommittees.

[5:41:32] Again, I just wanted to check in with administration.

[5:41:34] I know in the report it does mention that see here.

[5:41:41] Yeah, then administration would support establishing two subcommittees as opposed to three.

[5:41:45] I'm just looking for a little bit of additional information there around some of the limitations or why

[5:41:50] Thank you.

[5:41:51] Thank you.

[5:41:52] Sure.

[5:41:53] Hi.

[5:41:53] This is Judy Smith Director of Community Investment and Social Development.

[5:41:57] We just find that if we have that many subcommittees because our team is supporting

[5:42:03] all of the forward advisory boards in our area and having three subcommittees just puts a bit

[5:42:09] of a strain on our staff.

[5:42:11] And because the youth council is so uniquely formed, they have lots of events and things

[5:42:17] And because they're part of the city, we need to have representatives from administration there.

[5:42:23] So it just having an extra committee just puts extra burden upon a small team.

[5:42:29] Yeah, okay. And help me help me understand,

[5:42:37] so today, like that's quote today.

[5:42:42] There are three subcommittees, yes, not in heads.

[5:42:48] So is there, again, to administration, is there, is there a change in

[5:42:51] resourcing or is there currently some tension there already, I guess, in terms of that

[5:42:59] workload?

[5:43:00] Yeah, I think there's always been some tension, but we have restructured to have a team

[5:43:04] of people to support the advisory boards.

[5:43:07] And I think it's always been a bit difficult with me saying, again, about these council having so many events and other things than just their normal meeting and subcommittee meetings.

[5:43:21] Okay, and when would be the next opportunity to revisit that? Like if we were to move ahead with the three subcommittees today.

[5:43:29] One would that next check-in point be just to see what that work load is feeling like and looking like and whether we do need to reevaluate and go down to the two.

[5:43:40] There would be next year and last year we asked last year when the group had asked for three subcommittees we had asked at that time that it be two.

[5:43:48] And we thought this would be a better time because the group is already talking about integrating two of their subcommittees.

[5:43:55] Okay, and then maybe just to, um, to Angelina and Ellie, thoughts around two versus three.

[5:44:04] I'm proud of it.

[5:44:04] Thank you for that question.

[5:44:06] So, once again, I get to summarize.

[5:44:10] For policy, it's really about looking at policies, writing reports, some of that formal work,

[5:44:17] projects being actualizing those policies, making them more concrete for youth,

[5:44:21] and then internal being us organizing ourselves because of our large population with why

[5:44:27] L members. Yes, we have talked with administration in a theory that we did have was to because

[5:44:35] of collaboration again between subcommittees, consolidating them. The consensus or the best option

[5:44:44] that we're currently at and mind you still being liberated within Council within our board is

[5:44:50] just restructuring internal to make it a more efficient subcommittee, but we can definitely

[5:44:57] take this advice back to our word.

[5:45:00] And discussing more in-depth, but we'd have to like more meaningfully think about how we consolidate things. So the, so the different initiatives aren't lost and are still meaningfully given the attention within their specific subcommittee.

[5:45:16] I'm out of time.

[5:45:18] I'll come with you.

[5:45:20] Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Wright.

[5:45:23] Thank you very much.

[5:45:25] Maybe first, Judy,

[5:45:30] how many committee, or sorry, how many boards have more than one subcommittee?

[5:45:41] I don't think, I think, with the four that we have in social development, I think the youth council is the only one that has more than one, okay?

[5:45:51] Okay, that's, and yeah, I mean, the ones that we've gone through today too, I think, even the ones outside of your area of responsibility, I think only had it the most one.

[5:46:01] So, thank you.

[5:46:02] And so, I guess then, I

[5:46:09] guess my, my question is, yeah, can you, I'm looking at side number 14 and you've got, as part of your internal subcommittee is public relations and networking.

[5:46:22] So is it networking maybe part of your projects and then I'm thinking public relations, is that more just communications and you're already doing that on social media and that?

[5:46:37] Yeah, I can begin to take this question.

[5:46:39] So the idea of the reasoning like the networking event

[5:46:43] does fall under, because the way

[5:46:47] the internal structure that originally is,

[5:46:49] I was more focused on sort of events

[5:46:52] that promote member while being member sort of training

[5:46:55] and opportunities for personal development.

[5:46:59] And so, again, like we said,

[5:47:01] I think we are looking at restructuring that.

[5:47:03] So I guess in future terms,

[5:47:04] networking will probably move to something like projects.

[5:47:06] But that's kind of the reason why it's in there.

[5:47:11] And then as for public relations,

[5:47:12] this is kind of what we're getting at as well.

[5:47:14] I'm in regards to sort of like what we need,

[5:47:19] what kind of need from the internal subcommittee moving forward.

[5:47:22] We do still need some sort of mechanism to look after things like

[5:47:27] public relations, how we connect to,

[5:47:30] how we engage with our actual,

[5:47:33] the population that we're serving.

[5:47:34] And so the way that we're looking to restructure in like making internalist smaller subcommittee would address that.

[5:47:44] Okay, I guess all good. I'll just add one more point. So with public relations, it's still about establishing that administrative body for the entire board because of our large population with why I'll members.

[5:47:58] And that's a large group to just for us as co-chairs to handle, which is why we need the internal or the public relations piece.

[5:48:08] Also with internal, another thing that they organize and usually have in the past,

[5:48:13] we just haven't this particular year, is training opportunities like we've done workshops around tech, indigenous awareness,

[5:48:30] I don't know, it might serve you well to look at how some of the other committees that we've heard from today, sort of structure there's your just wave that was just here was talking about like they've got a couple people doing communications because they no longer have

[5:48:51] of peridose contract doing that,

[5:49:00] and I'm just, you know, and the same thing with accessibility

[5:49:03] advisory committee as well. Again, you know, they lost that contract so that, yeah, they're

[5:49:10] just having people within, and okay, so I kind of want to get off the subcommittee track

[5:49:19] because I really, I think you've been provided some guidance to from Judy Smith and her department

[5:49:27] as far as what might be possible with the two committees, but I, I do just have another

[5:49:33] question in regards to Angel, where you said you've tapped into EPSB, and I'm just wondering

[5:49:40] about what about evidence in Catholic and Frank, Frank, a phone, is school boards.

[5:49:47] That is something we're still figuring out connections to because unfortunately with our current

[5:49:54] member basis we don't have explicit connections to that so we're in the process of forming

[5:49:59] those connections because for certain communities of certain initiatives might have information

[5:50:05] to send out and invites so those are connections that are being established but with EPSB with

[5:50:11] our member population we just we already have those mates so it's a little more convenient

[5:50:15] but the others are in the works so you only have members from EPSB for the most part yes yes and also like a higher

[5:50:25] no EPSB as far as high school population and like 13 to 18 is concerned and then we have

[5:50:31] university students like 18 to 23 from U of A and McEwen okay okay my time's up sorry

[5:50:38] Councillor Tain?

[5:50:41] Yeah, great. Thank you for the presentation and the report. If I look at your work plan and some of your goals, I guess I'm curious, like your go number one, mobilize youth on local issues through community events and projects, go number two, empower youth through education, skill building and experience to be active citizens.

[5:51:03] They're all, you know, excellent goals, but they also feel very service delivery to me.

[5:51:09] I guess I'm wondering if you can distinguish a little bit of that versus sort of the advisory role you should be playing.

[5:51:20] Let's give us a second to pull up our workpoints so we can answer that particular one.

[5:51:27] You can take that first.

[5:51:29] First goal and second.

[5:51:35] I can see you're concerned with it, but it still balances out in accordance to our mandate.

[5:51:43] school for as first of first of mobilizing youth on local issues, informing youth in order to engage

[5:51:52] the meaningfully as an important part of our mandate. So it's kind of setting that ground up

[5:51:57] for them to then comment meaningfully on policy and then be capable of inviting in the first place.

[5:52:05] So that's I've said the goal one is that's it might seem surface level but it's important

[5:52:10] foundational work, so then students and young people in general can then go on to advice

[5:52:16] folks, so it's that empowering and educational aspect, whereas goal to empowering you through

[5:52:22] education, that's where we have our networking initiative. That one's more so to promote

[5:52:27] member well-being, and then once again, too.

[5:52:30] Making the time to create the space and community. So students can lend those project management skills.

[5:52:36] And it's also in CYC and in our outreach. It's also important for us to give young people a safe space to first come try new things related to policy, fail.

[5:52:49] And then we're also there to support them to and keep them committed to the policy.

[5:52:53] But I wouldn't say surface level, I'd say more so foundational, so they're able to come back and get more meaningful critiques.

[5:53:01] I hope that kind of answers it.

[5:53:03] Yeah, and although it also sounds like you're outreach largely, you know, in for those who are still in the public,

[5:53:13] or sorry, I guess pre-University are largely EPSB, for example,

[5:53:23] yeah, I guess I appreciate your

[5:53:25] point about setting the foundation. I think this has been like worry with the use of council

[5:53:31] all along, as you know, does it get unwieldy with 89 members, with various subcommittees,

[5:53:43] with

[5:53:45] One thing I can comment on that or two things is with CLIC, I must say the demographics change quite a bit year to year.

[5:53:54] I think in the last few terms we were more a high school age demographic.

[5:54:00] But right now we've aged to be late high school early university.

[5:54:04] That's majority of her demographic.

[5:54:06] So it's kind of difficult to comment because it does cycle to it.

[5:54:11] But I must say, once again, for the subcommittee structure, it's really just meaningful for us as far as personal organization goes.

[5:54:20] And even though we have 60 to 80 members, once again, if fluctuates throughout the year, because Wiles have less commitment to the more versus or 20 BCM, which are more committed, but we have lots of Wiles that will spend a year to gain those foundational skills and then come to the BCM.

[5:54:39] So it is important for us to organize ourselves that way and it aids us as chairs to

[5:54:47] have a list population and then also for folks to move comfortably around the council.

[5:54:52] And I have just my full of my last minute, just on this question of, you know, three

[5:54:57] concept committees or less so that it's more manageable for administration support.

[5:55:04] I like to move to amend the three to two, and if I were to do that, I guess which two would you keep?

[5:55:14] Can I ask a quick question?

[5:55:15] There's only 30 seconds.

[5:55:17] Would it folks be more comfortable with the fact if we didn't call the internal subcommittee a subcommittee

[5:55:23] and like a working group?

[5:55:25] because it's really, like, is that the tension rates, it's more so the meeting support in all that.

[5:55:32] Right?

[5:55:33] Administration.

[5:55:34] I have, like, 10 seconds. I guess maybe

[5:55:39] Judy, if you want to respond to that question.

[5:55:44] So in the structure and probably the office of the city clerk would be better to answer this,

[5:55:49] But in the structure, it is supposed to be a main advisory board and subcommittees working groups

[5:55:56] are not kind of part of the structure of the advisory boards, because all of it has to

[5:56:02] be transparent and live-streamed in all those pieces.

[5:56:06] So I think it's a bit of the workload and making sure that the actions as Councilor Tang

[5:56:13] was saying align with the mandate of the advisory board.

[5:56:18] Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Rice.

[5:56:25] Thank you for the presentation report and also the work plan for the TIS-25. I actually

[5:56:31] have really like your answer and to look at is data of look at the surface and actually

[5:56:37] is refract the your mandate, the alignment with your mandate and also fundamental pieces

[5:56:45] there. So I think that's actually just my question, and then I appreciate that answer.

[5:56:54] I do have another question, and from previous waves reports, talk about the collaboration.

[5:57:00] So it's great to say those advisory boards to work together and collaborate who would be

[5:57:07] you achieve some goals together.

[5:57:10] So can you describe a little bit more about

[5:57:14] how you collaborate really to really work with,

[5:57:17] like wave, so for example.

[5:57:20] And then because right now we're talking about

[5:57:22] the street subcommittees, maybe you can

[5:57:24] from that functionality perspective, and it's

[5:57:27] talk about, and as you're collaborating, work

[5:57:30] and it was different at a advisory group.

[5:57:35] Yeah, I can, I guess we'll begin the response to that.

[5:57:39] So in regards to collaboration, we typically,

[5:57:42] I think I deal with what we do is reach out to our liaisons

[5:57:45] and use that to connect with other boards.

[5:57:48] So there are one of the challenges that we've been facing,

[5:57:50] especially in the previous couple of recent terms,

[5:57:54] that we'd have a lot of administrative turnover.

[5:57:56] And so that has been, that has certainly been a challenge.

[5:57:59] Both in terms of collaboration and also with, I guess, with some of the structural things and like what sort of admin or strain looks like as well, which we'll probably get into later.

[5:58:10] But in terms of, like, I guess the concrete things that we have done recently, we have been in contact with wave in particular

[5:58:20] and jump things like social media internally.

[5:58:22] I think we've talked about that at the end of the prison for questions as well.

[5:58:25] And so that's one sort of avenue that we've gone down, and then we're also like we've also had internally

[5:58:33] been discussing a lot around bringing up some of the things that we're both particularly

[5:58:38] passionate about.

[5:58:39] So one of the, one of the, we're considering connecting with wave on their sort of perspective

[5:58:46] on the public spaces by law.

[5:58:48] That ultimately didn't happen just because of time restraints, but all of these things

[5:58:51] do so often at the background. So I guess, yeah, another quick detail apart from, so yes, there's

[5:58:59] been administrative turnover, so it's been difficult to establish and continue the connection

[5:59:05] with other councils, but it's that's been considerably better this year. Secondly, just

[5:59:11] slow details on what we have done. So I think our first touch point with the other committees was

[5:59:17] when we were talking about the budget, fall budget.

[5:59:20] So when we met with the mayor, all the chairs did.

[5:59:23] And that was great conversations there,

[5:59:25] learned a lot for folks.

[5:59:27] And since then, there've been some emails back and forth.

[5:59:29] It's just kind of continuing that connection.

[5:59:32] A lot of conversations about how people are handling

[5:59:35] their social media.

[5:59:37] We've, you know, on and off, casually discuss,

[5:59:40] like, maybe we can do a crossover monthly meeting

[5:59:44] or something like that.

[5:59:45] that's just hasn't come to fruition yet,

[5:59:48] but now that we have established this connection,

[5:59:50] I think the chairs from all councils

[5:59:53] are going to continue to work to make it

[5:59:55] a more meaningful collaboration than it has been.

[5:59:59] Yes.

[6:00:00] Okay, thank you for that answer. And based on that information provided, I'm going to ask an administration,

[6:00:09] if the infuser is collaboration between the different itemizer committees. Does that mean, and from efficiency perspective for certain subcommittee and is there, is there any, like, functionality over the app?

[6:00:27] or you still say they're still separate,

[6:00:31] they do need their own subcommittees.

[6:00:34] So I just want to look at it from that perspective.

[6:00:37] And I know my question is a little longer, Judy,

[6:00:40] and I want to finish, like give you a slide.

[6:00:42] A lot of related ones,

[6:00:43] because the term change for this student,

[6:00:45] and I actually, I support that.

[6:00:47] I do understand how school work impact

[6:00:49] is their capacity to involve more effectively.

[6:00:53] So, how that link to this three or two subcommittees, so maybe you can explain a little more about that piece?

[6:01:04] Sure, I think we have an opportunity with our new advisory board coordination team to really create some connections between all of the boards, because it's the same team that will be supporting them all, so it won't be a different individual, it will be a team working together.

[6:01:19] So I think there's an opportunity to look, I can't speak without us having some real conversations

[6:01:24] about it, whether that'll diminish the number of subcommittees, because they're each unique.

[6:01:30] They're each unique advisory boards, as you've seen throughout today, all with different levels

[6:01:34] of compassion and enthusiasm and hard work and dedication.

[6:01:40] But I think we've already talked numerous times as a team about finding opportunities to

[6:01:45] folks together. So you can count on that happening. Okay, thank you. My time is up.

[6:01:51] Councillor Nat? Thank. Thanks, Councillor Selvedor.

[6:01:56] Sorry, it's been a few years since I've been

[6:01:58] on youth council. So I just, I wanted to, I feel like I'm, maybe I'll ask our team from youth

[6:02:05] council and then I'll go to administration after, because I feel like we're getting caught up

[6:02:08] on the internal subcommittee piece. But like, the way I understood the internal subcommittee and I

[6:02:13] I think you described it, but I'm going to just, like, it is truly just, like, internal

[6:02:17] governance stuff.

[6:02:19] Like, I'm not sure why that requires a public streaming of a meeting or resources.

[6:02:27] Like, that just feels like stuff that almost every community does.

[6:02:30] You happen to formalize it a little bit more and make sure you can document that and report

[6:02:34] back.

[6:02:35] Like, is that still sort of how it operates?

[6:02:39] So my from the youth council perspective or am I missing something to do to do share something that I mean, I just want to understand because I feel like maybe what you've written on your slide is a little different side.

[6:02:53] I think you summarized it pretty accurately. It's about internal governance organizing ourselves and the subcommittee structure just allows us to formalize and keep members accountable for tasks.

[6:03:07] Okay, and so maybe the confusion is the slide because again, like it's talking about public relations and networking, but like that's actually falls within

[6:03:16] I mean more of the

[6:03:18] I would guess the the projects right if you're doing a networking event on a topic. You're you're probably doing that more through projects versus the internal right

[6:03:27] Currently, it's through the internal

[6:03:29] Is it okay?

[6:03:30] Is networking it's okay. It's also geared around member wellness.

[6:03:35] Okay

[6:03:38] So maybe okay so now I see maybe where the confusion is because like I mean I guess to me

[6:03:43] it's just sort of like 6 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 the other you're going to do that anyways

[6:03:47] and if that's what it takes let's throw those categories of a networking event in the

[6:03:52] project and then I would ask and so I'm maybe this is going to be a question to the

[6:03:56] administration like they're going to be doing that whether they throw it in the internal

[6:04:01] or whether they throw it in the project one.

[6:04:05] So should be just formally shift that over

[6:04:08] and then you don't have to worry about sending staff resources

[6:04:10] to an internal committee meeting.

[6:04:12] Like, that feels like an inefficient use of resources,

[6:04:15] but like they should still do that work as a committee.

[6:04:18] That's what I think every committee still does.

[6:04:21] My understanding counts are an act.

[6:04:23] It's duty SNF is that we are responsible to be at any committee

[6:04:29] or subcommittee, just excuse me, just like council and council committees to be there to take

[6:04:36] minutes.

[6:04:36] Yeah.

[6:04:37] And to live stream that no matter what the purpose is, so how do you get started?

[6:04:42] Yeah, so I guess the question is, how do we fix that?

[6:04:45] Because that feels a little like a waste of your time to live stream an internal governance

[6:04:51] meeting for a committee, so can we just like give you a direction to say, hey, don't, don't,

[6:04:58] Maybe you don't have to be at like every single little thing because some of those things might just not make sense.

[6:05:03] Well, I think we're aligned with all the rules that Council has to follow, too. So that's why that's why I think we're willing.

[6:05:10] We would work with the, with the youth council to figure it out whatever your decision is.

[6:05:16] Okay. Yeah, because I don't know. I guess, and like I heard the MGA piece, I understand that I guess.

[6:05:20] just like nothing's going to change whether there's three or two because they're just going to

[6:05:26] do the same work, maybe it changes the frequency of the number of meetings but it might change

[6:05:32] the length of another meeting and so I'm just trying to figure out what's the cleanest way to get

[6:05:35] there but I haven't helped myself by any of the questions so I'm going to leave it there thank you.

[6:05:41] Councillor Stevenson. Yeah I just want to dig into that a little bit for there as well and

[6:05:46] And my correct and understanding that the requirements for live streaming is through the MGA

[6:05:51] for advisory boards of council.

[6:05:53] It's that they have to be in public.

[6:05:55] So perhaps try to help this a little bit.

[6:05:58] If members of a committee are going to do work and tasks just as you prepare for meetings, that's fine.

[6:06:03] It's when they gather as a group and make decisions and something that looks like a meeting, but that has to be a public.

[6:06:08] So maybe just to the representatives in those internal organizing meetings,

[6:06:12] do pass motions or resolutions?

[6:06:19] Yes. And yes, in those meetings, like for example, for

[6:06:25] it internal, they would work on like their initiative proposals because currently we still

[6:06:31] do have that initiative proposals structure so they'd work on it and then they'd bring it to

[6:06:36] our general assembly, our monthly meeting, to have it officially passed there. And then other than

[6:06:42] that it would be like, any Instagram posts they made,

[6:06:45] they'd work through it,

[6:06:47] but they would quote unquote approve it internally

[6:06:49] in that group and that initiative

[6:06:52] and then formally pass it at GA.

[6:06:55] But not every single Instagram post needs to be passed at GA.

[6:07:00] It can be passed in that internal subcommittee, right, me.

[6:07:04] Yeah, so I mean, those don't seem like governance decisions.

[6:07:11] Yeah, so I'm just wondering, again, maybe the interpretation of that subcommittee, if we can just remove the design, like I think it was suggested earlier.

[6:07:24] I mean, it's just a function of the group. They're not doing anything that sounds like...

[6:07:30] I think it needs to be minuteed because the things that need to be minuteed for formal approval happen at the General Assembly.

[6:07:37] Is that fair, maybe to?

[6:07:40] Yeah, we would say that's fair.

[6:07:42] I guess the reason why we've been pushy on this is just because we do, our current understanding is that we won't be able to continue this work unless we have this sort of subcommittee like roll there.

[6:07:53] Just so that we are able to come together and meet and do it together.

[6:07:55] But if there is like a way forward where that isn't a concern, then we'd be more than happy with that.

[6:08:02] Yeah, so it's a labeling issue.

[6:08:04] We're happy to call it something else.

[6:08:06] Yeah, well, maybe to Judy.

[6:08:07] So if we had a commitment that this subcommittee was, or sorry, this function of internal organization was not passing formal motions that weren't subsequently brought towards the general assembly.

[6:08:22] Does that then follow outside of the criteria that that's needed or you know that's outlined in the MGA?

[6:08:30] I would have to defer to the Office of the City Clerk because we just provide the support that we're directed through through them.

[6:08:39] So I'd ask one of them to respond.

[6:08:41] Okay, and if we can't respond right now, I'll like that's fair, but I think the path forward might be that if we're hearing from administration that they have the resources to support

[6:08:51] two subcommittees, truly having meetings with those associated governance requirements that

[6:08:56] not as a path forward and as an offline action item between the youth council and the

[6:09:00] civic agencies team and administration, we can look at them as what are functions that

[6:09:03] are being performed and what actually needs to be done at a meeting, because you know what

[6:09:07] I'm even thinking of, you know, council will occasionally have lunch and learns and we're

[6:09:13] all together, but we're not making decisions, there's nothing formal, so okay, so in that

[6:09:21] then I think just for clarity I would move that we strike three subcommittees and replace that

[6:09:28] with two second and as a great please introduce introduction so so just to to the youth council

[6:09:38] of our representatives you know absolutely really support what you're saying I think the way you

[6:09:42] have structured your workflow makes a lot of sense we're just wanting to ensure that we're managing

[6:09:47] resources on our staff side, but I think you've heard there's a commitment to working to ensure

[6:09:53] that you can still meet to have those functions perform those functions, but that it can reduce

[6:10:01] the demand on staff. I think that's probably best for everyone because there's probably probably

[6:10:06] probably don't love being live streamed for whatever reason for some of those more bread and butter

[6:10:12] type conversations, so that would be the intent of this that you would still be able to continue

[6:10:17] to do that work that you would have the space and abilities to do that, while we're

[6:10:23] also sort of reducing that work load on our staff.

[6:10:26] Thank you.

[6:10:27] Can we ask a question?

[6:10:29] I could ask you if you wished to add any thoughts?

[6:10:36] Yes, I comment, I suppose.

[6:10:39] With the internal subject, the only issue that I foresee coming to changing this structure is as far as like formal approval of Post's concern.

[6:10:53] I guess we would appreciate a commitment from administration going forward that things like informative posts on work that our initiatives are doing, which is just sharing information, which is approved at GA.

[6:11:08] but then will there be, I guess, like bureaucratic delays and getting posts and information

[6:11:15] out through our Instagram because would we have to like work the whole month to make Instagram

[6:11:19] posts and then approve it at that one meeting or could the working group just go ahead because

[6:11:24] that if we have to wait monthly that would be an issue. But that's the only thing.

[6:11:28] And I think we could look to other boards and agencies about how they manage their social

[6:11:34] I don't believe that social posts necessarily have to have full formal approval, so it could

[6:11:41] be that you develop a social media policy that, you know, X number, people have to sign

[6:11:47] off an approval post before it's posted, but it's not necessarily a formal action of the

[6:11:51] body would be a thought.

[6:11:53] I'll stop.

[6:11:53] Thank you, Chair.

[6:11:54] Yeah, I appreciate that point.

[6:11:56] Councillor Rutherford?

[6:11:59] I just, yeah, I just went on the board because I could see that the youth council looked

[6:12:04] they had some comments or questions, so I was just going to ask them about their thoughts on

[6:12:08] this motion, then in responding to Councillor Stevens, and I think there is a bigger

[6:12:16] conversation here, and I guess how much social media is youth council doing,

[6:12:26] because I

[6:12:27] really like a lot of work, and I don't know if that actually meets your mandate.

[6:12:34] Okay, we're a good chance of apologies for the early intreption.

[6:12:39] Currently, a lot of it is about educating and sharing information.

[6:12:44] And in the past two to three terms, with governance restriction and administrative turnover,

[6:12:49] it has been slower than we'd like it to be.

[6:12:53] But we would like to do more.

[6:12:55] We'd like to update, use, on what city council is doing.

[6:12:59] They might not always be watching these public hearings

[6:13:02] and, you know, attending these online meetings, but we can make quick info lights to keep

[6:13:06] folks up with things. I think that would very much be, you know, excuse me, my, my, my, my

[6:13:12] that, um, meeting our mandate of educating young people and also, secondly, our own presence,

[6:13:19] which is, once again, administrative stuff like just updating our website. We'd like to make

[6:13:24] our website a more useful resource. This was done a few terms ago, um, because the website contains

[6:13:30] will information of us, but also external opportunities for students, and we are that liaison

[6:13:36] that connects students and young people to scholarships, internships, and some information

[6:13:42] around that.

[6:13:43] So we'd like to breathe out that of it, but it really comes down to being a resource for young

[6:13:49] people and which with that encouraged them to join youth council.

[6:13:52] So we'd like to do a little more than we are currently doing, we're just restructuring

[6:13:57] should do it in a effective and efficient way?

[6:14:02] Yeah, and I guess my background, my history is that I actually

[6:14:10] surrendered the youth council in Strathcona County for years, as the

[6:14:17] admin supports.

[6:14:18] I'm very familiar.

[6:14:19] And actually it was much younger than Edmonton Youth Council

[6:14:22] because that youth council was 12 to 17 year olds.

[6:14:26] And so that was the age group of it,

[6:14:34] and they did a lot of really effective advocacy work.

[6:14:38] They did a lot of things, but I mean, I might be dating myself, but like at that time, it was like when I did that was from 2008 to 2013.

[6:14:48] There was Facebook, but it wasn't really used by youth, really, at that point. They didn't use it a lot.

[6:15:00] And they still got education out. They still look at all of those things. So I guess I'm just trying to understand if you're seeing you have capacity issues or you need these three subcommittees, you know, per what's on the floor before us as amendment.

[6:15:16] I know like other other committees had to think about scaling back what that looks like.

[6:15:21] Yes, advisory board has done that.

[6:15:24] Wave has done that.

[6:15:27] I'm sure others that I'm not as accessibility advisory, I think, has scaled back to.

[6:15:34] Has the youth council looked at scaling back or focusing?

[6:15:39] Is there a platform that really youth are engaged in, and that's where you should be focusing your energy and effort on, as opposed to all the platforms?

[6:15:49] Yeah, so I guess, like, I guess, first addressing the broader question of, like, scaling back.

[6:15:55] I think in 2021, or 2020, we did actually move down from four so communities down to three.

[6:16:03] That's how we have this infrastructure.

[6:16:05] And it's kind of dated, but the other thing, the other, like, I guess, we're response.

[6:16:10] So this is that youth council is also one of the only ones that has such a huge membership, if you include it.

[6:16:17] not just the voting community members, but also the youth of large. And also just if you look at like the individuals that make up or committee, they're often very experienced. This is often very first time doing anything governance related.

[6:16:29] To be honest, it might be the first time doing anything outside of school. And so because of all of that, like we do have a lot more I guess burden to sort of like.

[6:16:36] There's more capacity building and development that happens on a youth council. Is that fair to say?

[6:16:42] Yeah, for sure.

[6:16:44] Okay, I'll leave it there.

[6:16:46] I'll think about this amendment on the floor.

[6:16:48] I'll move a second round.

[6:16:51] Second.

[6:16:53] Please vote.

[6:16:57] Yes.

[6:16:58] Thank you, Councillor Gents.

[6:17:03] We have all the votes displayed about.

[6:17:14] That's carried.

[6:17:14] That's all right.

[6:17:16] Thank you.

[6:17:17] So you mentioned the subcommittees have less experience.

[6:17:22] I'm wondering if it would be better for them to get the guidance of the broader

[6:17:28] committee at working on some of these internal governance situations rather than them

[6:17:35] just sort of being left on their own without that guidance.

[6:17:40] And so not having it in a subcommittee.

[6:17:45] Not sure if I understand the question.

[6:17:48] So are you asking if like the things that happen inside of subcommittees to be done with

[6:17:53] the entire board?

[6:17:54] Yes.

[6:17:55] So that rather than leaving those with less experience in the subcommittees working on things

[6:18:02] that they can have the guidance of the larger broader committee.

[6:18:08] Okay, so a couple of things to address, I think I may have maybe I just didn't explain this correctly,

[6:18:14] but it's not like we do still have the use of large people who aren't just like formally part of the voting members of the board

[6:18:22] coming to the larger committee, General Assembly as well.

[6:18:26] And so that issue is sort of symmetrical in that sense,

[6:18:28] so that happens on both ends.

[6:18:30] And we do have voted committee members

[6:18:31] at all the subcommittee meetings anyway.

[6:18:34] So that's not really concerned.

[6:18:37] Yeah, I think is there anything else like you want to say?

[6:18:41] So point that I could add is support that we're under the impression

[6:18:48] the entire, the entire board needs.

[6:18:51] we do provide by discussing it at General Assembly, and then perhaps formally passing a motion for

[6:18:58] everyone, like certain trainings, etc. encouraging people. But as far as initiating that work,

[6:19:05] that will come out of the subcommittee and then it may or may not be applied to everyone.

[6:19:09] So it's really the mechanism and the tool that we use to help, you know, a niche group or the whole

[6:19:18] board, it still comes through that subcommittee structure because of the way it's organized.

[6:19:23] But okay, but that's what I'm like, can you not reorganize it? Did you see guidance from either

[6:19:32] your council advisors or administration or the clerk's office in regards to setting up this

[6:19:39] three subcommittee proposal.

[6:19:44] Yes.

[6:19:45] And what advice did you receive?

[6:19:48] Yeah.

[6:19:49] This has been in, I think we've talked about this as well.

[6:19:52] But we've been discussing this for like since last term at least.

[6:19:56] Whereas far as I'm aware.

[6:19:58] Yes.

[6:19:58] And like we have heard the suggestion to bring it down to two securities.

[6:20:02] That's why we've, like we came in here on talking about reducing the internal

[6:20:08] are like shrinking the, I guess, couple of the internal subcommittee. And again, we are still

[6:20:12] open to like, to shifting that to something else. If it, if it doesn't really require like the,

[6:20:17] I guess the, the same things that a subcommittee would in terms of like, uh, streaming and having to

[6:20:24] have someone there to take minutes. Um, but at the same time, we do still need that work to be done.

[6:20:29] And currently, the understanding that we have is that in order to do so, we need this subcommittee model.

[6:20:33] If that's not true, again, we're very open to changing that, but that's the reason why it's been like we've kept the structure that we have up to this point.

[6:20:43] But that's, I think that's what sort of all of us are trying to get at is if you do it within the broader committee, you don't need all these subcommittees.

[6:20:55] So you're willing to do that then.

[6:20:58] No, because we don't have, we wouldn't have the time to be able to do all of this stuff in, like within the broader community out of things.

[6:21:06] So, have you thought, have you considered then, as Councilor Rutherford, I think, is suggested in sort of reducing what you are doing.

[6:21:14] And I guess, maybe being tighter with what your mandate is.

[6:21:20] So to go back to a few earlier things, let's make a quick comment.

[6:21:24] As far as interacting with admin liaison, it was a discussed.

[6:21:28] We brought it to GA, we had our discussions, and rather than consolidating something

[6:21:33] like projects in policy or projects in internal, it was, we really came up with restructuring

[6:21:40] internal to make it more effective.

[6:21:41] If this is really just a linguistic tip of the community, we're okay not calling the internal subcommittee a subcommittee, we could call it a working group.

[6:21:51] And that would cut down at many times, but we would just like the formal commitment from administration that this would not cause bureaucratic delays.

[6:21:58] But I think Judy has already said that working groups, there is no such thing as a working group because if it was a working group, then it would actually have to be a subcommittee and live stream.

[6:22:12] And if it's work that can be done in the sort of the whole committee, then you've got

[6:22:20] that admin support behind you.

[6:22:23] And my time is up.

[6:22:27] Councillor Stroud.

[6:22:28] Councillor Stroud.

[6:22:29] Councillor Stroud.

[6:22:32] Thank you. Thank you. And two of you answered many questions and you did a great job. So I give you a little bit of break. I'm going, I'm going to say the administration first for the question and I come back to you. And then just take a brief.

[6:22:50] So my question to Judy, Judy, you provide a lot of clarification here, thank you for that.

[6:22:58] So my question is about for all of those advisory committees, like how many of them actually in their budget expenditure and hired outside consultants or communication company to support their social media, how many don't.

[6:23:15] and basically for the youth council. So youth council, I assume in and based on what's information

[6:23:21] the providers, they are not have any assistance from social media. They are doing their

[6:23:25] social media by themselves, right?

[6:23:30] Yes, that's correct. They're doing it by themselves. So how many

[6:23:34] advisory committee has that budget spending on higher upside resources to support service social media?

[6:23:42] I can only speak to the four advisory committees that are in social development and currently none of them have contracts to do social media through consultant.

[6:23:53] We did have a consultant agreement previously that wasn't part of the advisory board budget. It was part of our branch budget and when that ended at the end of last year, we are not renewing that.

[6:24:04] So we are trying to work within the corporation to figure out what kind of supports can be built in to support social media, as much as it's needed, but as Councillor Rutherford said, I think we're still unclear on how much social media is actually needed for advisory boards when the job is to advise council.

[6:24:22] Okay, wonderful. Thank you for that answer.

[6:24:27] So then my question come back.

[6:24:29] Come back to the youth come so and thank you for both of you.

[6:24:34] So I do not want to you feel so much pressure.

[6:24:37] To answer my questions.

[6:24:39] My question is in for this.

[6:24:40] I understand the words this intention from my colleague put this

[6:24:44] street and to the two.

[6:24:48] So what's the key specific impact could be if we change from stress up communities to choose up communities?

[6:24:57] Could you tell us a little bit what's the impact there?

[6:25:03] And because I do not want you lose capacity.

[6:25:05] I do not want you lose that motivation and to do some of the wonderful work and the title mandate.

[6:25:13] but I do want to understand from your perspective what impact it could be.

[6:25:23] Yeah, so I guess the way that I'll interpret like this scenario is that as that we'd lose,

[6:25:31] like let's say the internal subcommittee, and then we'd also have nothing to replace it.

[6:25:37] And I guess some of the tangible impacts of this is that we'd lose.

[6:25:40] Again, one is just like directing engagement with like the actual people that were supposed to be representing.

[6:25:45] So, like our connections for our, yeah, I get a direct engagement with the youth is just

[6:25:50] to really impact it.

[6:25:51] If we have like no mechanism to do so within our structure.

[6:25:58] And then also just in terms of like an internal governance administrative work that like

[6:26:02] we do within within the group, we just have far less control there.

[6:26:08] And so, but like in terms of like tangible impacts, we probably see like either general assemblies

[6:26:13] a lot more time is going into, of course, things like, oh, like, what does

[6:26:17] member want? Well, being like, what sort of training should we, um, should

[6:26:21] we be organizing, um, like what, like, all of these things that are

[6:26:26] typically, um, delegated to, um, to a committee where there's, or to a, to

[6:26:32] a subcommittee that, like, of people who don't, um, or away from

[6:26:37] people who don't really need to be like involved in all this stuff would, would

[6:26:40] to come into sort of the general discussion for everyone. And the fear with that is that it

[6:26:45] cutting to our time for a lot of other things that we think are more important for our

[6:26:51] institution.

[6:26:53] Susan, thank you for that. My question, then my question, because there are two points

[6:26:58] here, it's different. One is an administrative functionality. So a lot of peace is a governance

[6:27:06] And so you need to make the same motion, you need to ask questions or ask by my colleagues.

[6:27:13] So now you say tangible impacts on the capacity is on the administration side or is on the governance side.

[6:27:23] Sorry, yeah, I guess I should have been more specific with my language.

[6:27:26] But by administrative, I mean administrative within the fancy OSU.

[6:27:30] are not things like not like the liaison but more just how do like we as like executive

[6:27:37] like chairs and some community coach how co-chairs how we organize the way that you.

[6:27:45] Okay so I I know my time is up thank you councilor now thanks councilor senator sorry I'm going

[6:27:51] to give this one more try sorry and I'll go to an administration on this so I've heard the caution

[6:27:56] And from youth council about what they're worried they're going to lose, say the ability

[6:28:00] to engage in my mind, that's going to be part of their ongoing work, whether there's

[6:28:06] an internal subcommittee or not, to me, that's just that, that is something every committee

[6:28:10] does, they do engage with it, they connect, they use that information to help inform.

[6:28:15] So to me, nothing's changing, whether there's an internal subcommittee or not, the minutes

[6:28:21] are going to support other than you might not have to have somebody at an internal subcommittee

[6:28:25] because it doesn't exist, is that it means perspective?

[6:28:30] Yeah, I think there's an opportunity to support support this group

[6:28:33] to look at what needs to be done,

[6:28:36] what maybe they don't need to do

[6:28:38] and maybe develop into two subcommittees.

[6:28:42] We haven't had those in-depth discussions yet,

[6:28:45] so it's hard.

[6:28:46] I know our staff have had some initial conversations,

[6:28:49] but we haven't had the time to really look at it,

[6:28:52] but I think there's opportunities to find ways

[6:28:54] that nothing gets lost, that having one last group

[6:28:57] happened to them.

[6:28:58] That's where I'm going.

[6:29:00] So they're, we're not going to name Smith at today.

[6:29:03] There might be an internal random gathering of events

[6:29:06] that they want to talk about things that have nothing to do

[6:29:09] that require an in time, and they can figure out a time.

[6:29:11] Like, because I do, having sat through some of that stuff,

[6:29:14] like I get, they want to do it.

[6:29:16] You're okay with them going to do that stuff,

[6:29:18] as long as it's not a decision and would have fallen under

[6:29:22] the requirements of having to live stream. Correct? Well, I think that's something we

[6:29:27] have to discuss with them too because I just want to say like this is a group of young

[6:29:32] people. Yeah. They're from ages 13 to 23. That's a broad range. And so, you know, they're

[6:29:39] part of the city and we have to make sure that everyone's protected and safe. Yeah, I guess

[6:29:44] I think we have to be careful with some of that. Because I think back to when I started though,

[6:29:48] There were, there were, I don't know what I'm going to call them now, but I'm going to use the

[6:29:53] term subcommittee in this case.

[6:29:54] There were subcommittee gatherings at U of A students union building that did not have

[6:29:59] members.

[6:30:01] Because they were just working through a project, they were working through something. So clearly something was permitted then to allow them to connect to work on things without having to trigger some sort of mechanism on our end on the cities and to have to do that.

[6:30:15] right like that that's that ran for years and that ran but from before I was on council

[6:30:19] since I was on youth council and I think to this day it's like I that that's why I feel

[6:30:25] like this is just a naming exercise less a or am I missing something I would say we would

[6:30:32] not be encouraging those sorts of things going forward okay again ensure the safety of our young

[6:30:37] people they're they're part of our structure and we need to ensure what we do keeps everyone safe

[6:30:43] And so I would be wanting to have more formalized systems.

[6:30:48] Okay. Okay.

[6:30:51] All right, but what I'm taking away is that we're not going to lose the work.

[6:30:55] We might not have an internal subcommittee, but we're not going to lose that work.

[6:30:59] It might move into a different committee.

[6:31:02] Nobody's losing out here.

[6:31:04] This is what I'm, I guess, what I'm trying to sort of resolve.

[6:31:08] Because it feels like this feels like a long council debate that I don't know.

[6:31:13] It needed to be a council debate, but I guess I'm just trying to see like.

[6:31:16] So administration, if this, if this passes, we've heard the desire to keep doing work,

[6:31:21] that work is going to happen.

[6:31:22] We're just going to figure out a way to make a work.

[6:31:24] From my perspective, our team will work with the youth council and make sure it happens.

[6:31:29] Then, there we go.

[6:31:31] I'm good now.

[6:31:32] Thank you, Councillor Anak, so I'm not seeing any additional questions.

[6:31:37] on the board for this amendment, anyone to speak to it,

[6:31:44] or Councillor Stevenson to close?

[6:31:52] Councillor Tain?

[6:31:53] Maybe just very briefly, you know, thank you for kind of very valiantly defending your

[6:31:59] case to the two co-chairs.

[6:32:02] No, I appreciate some of the intricacy that I think maybe we got too much a little bit into

[6:32:07] the weeds today, but appreciate that there's something you can see that makes you a little

[6:32:10] different than perhaps some of the other committees.

[6:32:15] No, I will be supporting this.

[6:32:16] I think part of this is understanding that the team that's supporting use also supporting

[6:32:22] three other committees.

[6:32:24] And earlier today, we just got a report from one of the committee chairs who is genuinely

[6:32:29] concerned about administrative support.

[6:32:31] And I just think in the interest of fairness and equity, equitable resource, I would be

[6:32:37] supporting this. And I think there's a lot of conversations to be had about what would be the best

[6:32:42] structure that will work for you. I can absolutely appreciate that capacity, you know, as of interest

[6:32:48] here, but I would just, you know, really encourage, you know, your team and the general assembly,

[6:32:54] do you think about, like, what would be the best structure for that? And, you know, I understand that

[6:33:00] internal committee thing is a longstanding practice, but, you know, given kind of the advisory role,

[6:33:07] given kind of, you know, the current landscape and with some of the other committee structures,

[6:33:14] you know, really encourage you to focus and to be more, you know, effective in that role.

[6:33:23] So, you know, appreciate the conversation. Thank you for, thank you to the mover.

[6:33:28] All right. Thank you. Councillor Neckon, can you take the chair, please?

[6:33:31] I've got the chair. Thank you so much. I'll speak very briefly to this one as well,

[6:33:35] and appreciate both of you taking on so many questions this evening and responding

[6:33:41] with a lot of thoughtfulness and grace. Thank you. So, I think I got the clarity I needed

[6:33:47] through Councilor Nax. Most recently, I have questions. It was very clear to me and those answers

[6:33:53] that there really nothing, nothing gets lost with this change, which is I think the important

[6:33:59] point that I'm taking away from this, I think Councilor Tang brought up a number of really excellent

[6:34:03] points as well and would just want to reiterate, you know, as as as those conversations unfold

[6:34:10] and unroll, you know, not just on the administrative side, but myself as well as, I'll speak

[6:34:18] for Councillor Jazz, you know, we're here as well to help navigate some of those changes.

[6:34:23] So I'll just I'll leave it there, but I will be supporting this as well.

[6:34:27] Thank you.

[6:34:27] I'll return the chair.

[6:34:29] Councillor Piquette.

[6:34:31] Thank you, and I just want to thank the representatives here who came out to share your thoughts with us.

[6:34:41] You know, I was never never a young person who bent the rules and sometimes ignored them, so I hope you aren't either.

[6:34:48] Point of order, the Councillor is lying.

[6:34:53] Speaking of lines, let's read between the lines, and look, I never did anything that adults told

[6:35:02] me not to do, not once in my life, and I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm not sure

[6:35:10] if I'm going to support this motion, I think that there's some latitude here that we could

[6:35:15] potentially offer, and I think that we should probably be a little bit more relaxed with

[6:35:24] the roles a little bit, if they're not actually causing any problems by relaxing those

[6:35:29] roles.

[6:35:31] These things happen very successfully in the past.

[6:35:33] I haven't heard anything that said that they couldn't continue to happen successfully

[6:35:39] under a more lenient model, so I'll just leave it at that.

[6:35:43] Thank you.

[6:35:43] Thank you. Councillor Stevenson. Please vote.

[6:35:58] Yes. Thank you, Councillor Giants. We have all the votes.

[6:36:01] This is the vote.

[6:36:05] That is carried. Excellent. Thank you. So the motion as amended is now on the floor.

[6:36:13] We're there any further questions. We've asked a fair number of them. So we should be.

[6:36:18] Should be good. If there's anyone to speak to this, please sign up.

[6:36:25] Councillor Giants.

[6:36:35] Councillor Neck, would you take the chair then? I am actually going to speak.

[6:36:38] I'll go the chair.

[6:36:39] Thank you.

[6:36:41] Yeah, no, again, just wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for all the work that

[6:36:47] Youth Council does.

[6:36:49] I reflect on some of the conversations that I've been able to listen to around the Youth Council table.

[6:36:56] And they truly are.

[6:36:57] Some of the most thoughtful, thoughtful conversations that I get to be a part of.

[6:37:01] and I hear questions asked, and conversations have that sometimes I don't even think of.

[6:37:06] And I think that is a clear indicator that youth council is bringing different perspectives

[6:37:11] to the table that we really need to hear as part of our decision-making process.

[6:37:17] So yeah, my thanks and gratitude,

[6:37:22] and if I look like I said to the amendment,

[6:37:24] and if there are further conversations that need to be had, as we adapt to.

[6:37:30] The two verses three formal subcommittees very happy to walk alongside you in that.

[6:37:36] So thank you.

[6:37:39] All right, turn to chair.

[6:37:40] Thanks so much. Please vote.

[6:37:54] Yes.

[6:37:55] Thank you, Councillor Jones. We have all the votes.

[6:37:57] Just play the vote.

[6:38:04] That's carried.

[6:38:07] Great.

[6:38:09] Well, thank you so much.

[6:38:10] I'm showing an alley for being with us this evening.

[6:38:13] Probably a little bit longer than you expected, but I appreciate the conversation in dialogue.

[6:38:17] So we're going to move on to our last item of the evening, but thanks again for joining.

[6:38:25] All right. So, very last item of the evening, everyone.

[6:38:29] We're going to be moving to the Edmonton Combat of Sports Commission.

[6:38:32] And we have Chair Trevor Kelly, as well as Vice Chair Andrew Soto,

[6:38:37] joining online.

[6:38:39] Andrew and Trevor are you here?

[6:38:42] Yes.

[6:38:43] Excellent. Thank you so much and thank you for your patience as we got to the end of our agenda here.

[6:38:48] But we have some time allocated for you to provide a bit of an overview or presentation before we ask some questions.

[6:38:55] So I'll turn the floor over to you.

[6:38:58] Good evening, Councillors.

[6:38:59] I will be presenting the Edmonton Combative Sports Commission report and work plan and answering any questions you may have.

[6:39:06] I'll begin with speaking about the Commission's mandate.

[6:39:09] There are three parties responsible for the regulation of combative sports in Edmonton.

[6:39:14] First, of course, is the city council, which passes the bylaws, which permit professional

[6:39:18] combatant sports within the city, and further more set out the duties for both the commission

[6:39:23] and its executive director.

[6:39:25] The executive director is a city of Edmonton Employee who is responsible for all operational

[6:39:30] matters concerning combatant sports, including employing and training of officials, approval

[6:39:35] of applications for promoter licenses, and event permits, and general operational oversight

[6:39:41] of sanction events.

[6:39:42] The Commission is a committee established by Baila 15638 and since 1920 the Commission has been responsible for the regulation of combat of sports within the city.

[6:39:54] The Commission has composed of seven volunteer members and for the 2025 year there will be a need to fill two or three vacant seats.

[6:40:02] One member is at the end of his third and final turn while another is at the end of his second turn but is not seeking a third turn.

[6:40:08] I am also approaching the young of my third term next month, but the Commission adopted

[6:40:13] a motion for City Council to extend my appointment by one additional year to my third

[6:40:20] term, purely for successors of planning as no one on the Commission currently has the

[6:40:25] interest or capacity to assume the role of chair after my term ends.

[6:40:30] The Commission does not take an operational role of respect to combative sports, rather

[6:40:34] Our mandate is strictly to function as a regulator and to provide governance by supplementing

[6:40:39] the by-laws with regulations and policies which apply to promoters, athletes, officials,

[6:40:45] and to the operation of combative sports within the city.

[6:40:48] The Commission also serves as an appeal body with respect to decisions made by the executive

[6:40:53] director concerning applications for Vempermer permits and promoter licenses.

[6:41:00] 2024 was a very significant year for the Commission, as Edmonton hosted its first professional

[6:41:05] combative sports events since 2019, when the UFC held an event at the Rogers Place on

[6:41:11] November 2.

[6:41:12] From 2020 to early 2022, public health restrictions connected to the COVID-19 pandemic,

[6:41:19] prevented the holding of any combative sports events during that period of time.

[6:41:23] That pause on events for public health reasons was immediately followed by the pause that

[6:41:28] was put in place by city administration for the acceptance of any applications for promoter

[6:41:32] licenses and event permits that was in place from August of 2022 to May of 2023, while

[6:41:39] administration conducted a full-son review of the Commission's policies and regulations.

[6:41:44] After that pause was lifted, it was merely a matter of waiting for a promoter to take

[6:41:49] the first step in holding an event in Edmonton in the hopes that it would lead to other events

[6:41:53] also being scheduled.

[6:41:55] The USC event in November was a success, setting a record for the largest gate, and by

[6:42:00] I mean, revenue generated from ticket sales, for an enemy invented North America for a non-paper

[6:42:06] view event.

[6:42:08] Furthermore, as I mentioned, the hope was that once an event was finally held that it would

[6:42:13] encourage further events, which seems to be the case as another enemy event has been scheduled

[6:42:18] for April 12th by a promoter known as Unified M.A. to be held in the Ice District

[6:42:23] Fan Park.

[6:42:25] The last thing that was sporting event prior to the pandemic was a KO boxing event held

[6:42:29] shot conference center in December of 2019.

[6:42:32] So after nearly five years with no events, it is good to finally see a return in combat

[6:42:36] of sports to Edmonton.

[6:42:39] 2024 was another productive year for the commission.

[6:42:42] The commission has continued its work on the policy review project that it commenced

[6:42:45] in 2018.

[6:42:47] The aim of the project has been to have the commission go through each of the commission's

[6:42:51] 14 policies and regulations and review and revise them as necessary to make them both

[6:42:56] more efficient and effective.

[6:42:57] This work is largely done by way of a gap analysis, comparing the Commission's policies and regulations to those of other jurisdictions in Canada and the U.S.

[6:43:08] In 2024, the Commission reviewed and revised its policies concerning fighter debut criteria, medical suspensions and rest periods for athletes, as well as drug testing.

[6:43:19] Looking forward into 2025 and 2026, the Commission hopes to complete its work on the six remaining policies that the yet to be reviewed as part of the project.

[6:43:29] In addition to its work on the policy review, the Commission was also able to send a delegation of Commission members along with the executive director to the annual conference for the Association of Boxing Commission, which was held in Louisville, Kentucky this past July.

[6:43:42] The conference is an opportunity for the Commission to network with other commissions and

[6:43:47] learn about important new developments in the regulation of combative sports across North America.

[6:43:53] 2024 was also a significant year as in November saw the release of the report for the Tim Hague's

[6:44:00] Natality and Quiry which went to hearing in May of 2023.

[6:44:05] The report came with 14 recommendations from Justice Sharp who presided over the inquiry and

[6:44:11] The Commission has been working closely with its partner-seed in the city of administration

[6:44:14] in revealing and implementing those recommendations as appropriate for the purpose of

[6:44:19] enhancing athlete safety.

[6:44:21] I'd like to use this opportunity to, for the Commission to extend its sincere condolences

[6:44:25] to the family of Tim Hague.

[6:44:28] Lastly, in December, the Commission was contacted by officials from the province, concerning

[6:44:33] the future regulation of combat of sports in Alberta.

[6:44:35] On December 17th, the Executive Director and myself met with the Minister of Sport and

[6:44:41] Tourism as well as the Minister of Municipal Affairs, alongside the chairs and executive

[6:44:46] directors of all the other municipal combatant sports commissions in the province.

[6:44:51] The Commission and the City have both won advocate for the establishment of a provincial

[6:44:55] and that of sports commission to oversee combat of sports in Alberta.

[6:44:59] All of it.

[6:45:00] Other provinces and the states in the U.S., regulate combat of sports at the provincial or state level.

[6:45:06] Alberta is the last jurisdiction of maintaining municipal oversight of combat of sports.

[6:45:12] The province is engaging in various municipal commissions in a consultation process.

[6:45:17] And while I believe it is too early to tell if this will result in the establishment of a provincial commission.

[6:45:22] I am nonetheless cautiously optimistic that the province may finally be looking at taking

[6:45:28] steps towards establishment of one.

[6:45:32] The Commission is an excellent financial standing currently.

[6:45:35] The Commission does not receive any tax revenue from the city, and instead is self-funded

[6:45:40] through the holding of combat of sports, with revenue generated from the fees and connection

[6:45:45] with permit and license applications, but also receives revenue through the portion of

[6:45:50] and ticket sales. As I mentioned earlier, the USC event in November had the highest grossing

[6:45:56] ticket sales of any non-paper view event in North America to date. And as a result, the

[6:46:00] Commission's revenue for 2024 was $190,893. The significant influx of revenue, when added to

[6:46:09] the revenue received from past two of the events in 2017 and 2019, brings the total amount of funds

[6:46:15] the Commission has in its account two 373,886 dollars.

[6:46:22] These funds give plenty of flexibility for the Commission and we did

[6:46:25] budgeted expenditures, including officials training, Commission member training,

[6:46:30] and hopefully sending a delegation to the 2025 Association of Boxing Commission conference,

[6:46:36] which is scheduled to be in New Orleans in August.

[6:46:40] So, subject to any questions that concludes my report, I would like to take this opportunity to extend my gratitude and appreciation to all my fellow commission members and to our executive director, Forest Gavin's, for all their hard work and dedication towards achieving the commission's mandate.

[6:46:56] Great. Well, thank you so much for the presentation.

[6:47:00] And I'll see if there are any questions from colleagues or if there's someone who might want to move a recommendation in the report.

[6:47:10] I'm happy to move. That was excellent report.

[6:47:16] Second.

[6:47:17] Great. Thank you so much so much to move by Councillor Ting. Second by Councillor Wright.

[6:47:22] That was a very thorough presentation and I know I enjoyed reading through the report.

[6:47:28] So I don't have any questions. Councillor Ting, did you?

[6:47:32] Sure, I'm happy to just, a few things that you, you mentioned, really flag some interest just in terms of your conversation with the province and kind of the potential direction that they may take.

[6:47:48] So following perhaps other jurisdictions, that would mean kind of a municipal level commission.

[6:47:55] That would effectively replace the municipal level commission.

[6:47:59] Is that kind of what I'm hearing you?

[6:48:01] Yeah, as I said, it's a little early to tell, if the province is going to commit to the establishment of a provincial commission, some of these preliminary discussions that the provinces had with the various municipal commissions.

[6:48:17] as explore that option of or alternatively being

[6:48:21] teamed municipal regulation with some higher level

[6:48:25] of oversight from the province.

[6:48:29] You know, alternatively there's always the possibility

[6:48:32] that nothing might happen and that the status

[6:48:35] full will remain.

[6:48:37] But as I said, you know, it's one been the commission,

[6:48:41] the Edmonds in Combat of Sports Commission's position,

[6:48:43] that a provincial commission would be preferred.

[6:48:49] Yeah. Great. Thank you. Thank you for that clarity.

[6:48:51] And then your work plans also really thorough.

[6:48:54] I guess I'm wondering,

[6:48:58] you know, I think I've heard about a few events just even this year.

[6:49:02] Although I think maybe outside of the city is the commission seeing some of those opportunities coming up.

[6:49:08] Given how active 2024 was?

[6:49:14] Yeah, I mean, as I said, it was kind of a case of waiting for, you know, someone to make the first step to bring, you know, the sport back to Edmonton.

[6:49:26] Obviously, the river Cree casino hosts a number of combatant sporting events. However, that is outside the jurisdiction of the commission because it's not within the city of Edmonton.

[6:49:39] Yeah, and then I guess just a final one, just on your budget, I mean, you're at your in very healthy position, like, what do you, I guess, typically do with that kind of.

[6:49:54] So, so as I said, you know, one of our things that we like to fund is, is officials training and for women's sectors, referees judges.

[6:50:07] you know, either by bringing in individuals to the city for the purpose of putting

[6:50:14] on instruction, that anyone interested can attend, alternatively, you know, we have subsidized

[6:50:22] or funded attendance outside the city for some of our local officials, for example, one

[6:50:32] our referees in 2023 attended the conference that I mentioned in the Association of

[6:50:40] Ox and Commissions Conference by coming to us with a proposed plan for the his attendance

[6:50:46] and enrollment in some further officials training. I also mentioned Commission Member

[6:50:53] Training specifically as an example of what that might entail. As I mentioned, the

[6:51:01] mission serves as an appeal body from decisions of the executive director, so in 2021 that was

[6:51:11] the year we established our former appeal policy and we had to hear an appeal and at that point in

[6:51:20] time nobody had an administrative tribunal training. It just happens by coincidence at the time

[6:51:26] three of our seven members, including myself,

[6:51:30] were practicing lawyers.

[6:51:32] So we kind of thought through the process

[6:51:35] by establishing a panel of three lawyers

[6:51:37] to hear this appeal.

[6:51:40] But after that, we took it upon ourselves

[6:51:43] to actually enroll the rest of the commission

[6:51:46] into formal administrative tribunal training.

[6:51:51] So that is something that I would like to probably

[6:51:54] have happened again, if not in 2025 and perhaps in 2026,

[6:52:01] primarily due to the fact that I think

[6:52:03] every member of the commission other than myself who went through that training in 2021 is no

[6:52:09] longer going to be on the commission as at the end of this term, which would be the end of people.

[6:52:17] Yeah, no, that's great. Glad to hear some of those plans too. I guess further improve, you know,

[6:52:23] some of the safety work that you've been carrying on.

[6:52:28] So thank you for that.

[6:52:29] Nothing more.

[6:52:34] I'm just looking at in attachment to talks about the administrative support, is funded from community standards.

[6:52:44] You've indicated that there's no sort of, there's no, besides the administrative support that you receive, there's no other tax supported city tax supported support.

[6:52:56] Yes. Yes. Okay. And I guess how often do you rely on community standards branch to support you in your meetings in that?

[6:53:10] Typically, in terms of an in support, just term on fee meeting.

[6:53:13] Okay. Okay. So, and that's live streamed as well, just like all of our other.

[6:53:18] Okay, and I thought I had a question about the license fees, but I see that does come under revenue that you get for that.

[6:53:26] I was just wondering, is your projected going to be more this year as well, because you might be getting more events?

[6:53:39] Yeah, I mean, the budget that we had put together in 2024, which we've more or less, you know,

[6:53:48] adopted for 2025. It was predicated upon the possibility of two to three events that would not obviously be to the same scale as a UFC event because the revenue is I believe it's 5% of ticket sales.

[6:54:06] So, the USC event that took place in November, January, I believe, $2.6 million in ticket sales.

[6:54:16] So, 5% of that is, you know, that are revenue came from in 2024.

[6:54:23] But, you know, a significantly more modest number is what would be expected from non-USC,

[6:54:30] see boxing and MMA events, where I think the realistic amount of revenue that we would see

[6:54:39] from ticket sales and license fees would be anywhere from 5 to 10,000, so at this point,

[6:54:48] as I said, we have one event scheduled for people 12, whether or not there are more than that

[6:54:55] remains to be seen. I think it's highly unlikely,

[6:55:02] if not a variable certainty that the UFC

[6:55:04] wouldn't return to Evanton very soon. I mean, they came in 2017, 2019 and now, 2024.

[6:55:16] You know, I think realistically they'll be back potentially in two to three years, but for 2025

[6:55:24] not likely twenty twenty six eight. Okay, okay, so we're not, yeah, not the, not the

[6:55:31] big revenue that, or the smaller ones wouldn't provide the same revenue as

[6:55:35] what we saw there. Okay, basically the probably ordered magnitude, if not two.

[6:55:41] Okay, order something in the two difference. Okay, perfect, thank you very much to

[6:55:46] the fellow. Thank you, not seeing further questions, if there's anyone to speak please sign up

[6:55:50] Now, if not, we'll go to Councillor Tang to close.

[6:55:56] Not much, but just want to appreciate the work you're all doing.

[6:56:01] And thank you for thinking about succession.

[6:56:05] All really valuable.

[6:56:08] And yeah, appreciate every year.

[6:56:10] Appreciate your report back.

[6:56:11] Thank you.

[6:56:13] Great.

[6:56:13] Please vote.

[6:56:17] Yes.

[6:56:18] Thank you.

[6:56:18] Councillor Jones.

[6:56:20] Yes.

[6:56:21] Thank you.

[6:56:21] with a rather good

[6:56:27] counselor for cat or you still with us?

[6:56:37] My apologies.

[6:56:42] We have all the votes.

[6:56:42] This way,

[6:56:47] that's carried.

[6:56:49] Excellent.

[6:56:49] Well, thank you so much for sticking with us.

[6:56:51] This evening, Trevor, and again,

[6:56:53] just want to really appreciate the important regulatory role

[6:56:56] that the commission plays.

[6:56:58] And look forward to ongoing conversations

[6:57:01] and future reports and subsequent years.

[6:57:03] Thank you so much.

[6:57:05] Thank you.

[6:57:05] Have a good night.

[6:57:06] You too.

[6:57:07] All right, everyone, we've made it.

[6:57:10] and to the agenda, so by last private reports, motions pending, none, notices a motion,

[6:57:15] motions without customer notice none, which means we're adjourned.

[6:57:18] Thank you so much.

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