[28:57] I will start with a land acknowledgement. At this time, I'd like to acknowledge that we meet on the traditional land of Treaty 6 territory in the Maiti homeland, and acknowledge the diverse indigenous peoples whose ancestors footsteps have marked this territory for century, such as Cree, Denny, So-2, Blackfoot, Nikota Esca, as well as Maiti and Inuit, and now settlers from around the world. And I will do a roll call first of committee members, Councilor Salvador.

[29:25] Good morning.

[29:27] Councillor.

[29:28] Good morning.

[29:30] Councillor Jans.

[29:31] Good morning.

[29:32] Councillor Pakek.

[29:32] Councillor.

[29:33] Good morning.

[29:35] And Councillor.

[29:36] Sorry, not Councillor Mayernack.

[29:38] Is also a good morning.

[29:40] Good morning.

[29:41] And then let's see.

[29:42] There's no other Councillors joining us in Chambers.

[29:45] I will see if there's any online that are joining us.

[29:56] I've not seen any if there are any Councillors online.

[29:58] Can you identify yourself?

[30:00] Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Councilor Wright. Perfect. Thank you so much. Good morning. Councilor Prince Page here as well.

[30:10] Councilor Prince Page. Thank you so much. And I know that many of the items on the agenda are very much of interest to all of Council. And so I've heard from many colleagues that they'll be joining in and out for the day.

[30:23] So, I'll now do the declaration of pecuniary or conflict of interest.

[30:30] Before we consider today's agenda, I will ask all members present if they have any pecuniary

[30:35] or conflict of interest to declare regarding any of the items to be discussed.

[30:40] A pecuniary interest exists when an item could monetarily affect a council member, their employer, or a family member.

[30:47] A conflict of interest exists when an item could affect a private interest of a member of council.

[30:51] their employer or a family member. Do any members of council have a

[30:57] pecuniary or conflict of interest to declare?

[31:03] Hearing no declared pecuniary or

[31:06] conflicts of interest, we will move on to the adoption of the agenda. And I will

[31:11] go, Councillor Cark, would you mind adopting the agenda?

[31:17] Sure, I'll move the

[31:18] adoption agenda for the infrastructure committee meeting on August 26, 2020, 6, with

[31:24] addition of 7.6, the Action Transportation Implementation Acceleration Program update, and there

[31:31] were placement attachments, 7.6, Action Transportation Implementation Acceleration Program

[31:36] updates, attachments 2, 3, and 5, version 1, and 7.6, Action Transportation Implementation

[31:42] Acceleration Program update, attachment 5, version 2, is that it?

[31:48] Yep, that's everything for our do we change the order we move the orders of the day at the

[31:53] time. We'll do this after motion first. Okay, perfect. Any questions on the adoption of the agenda?

[32:03] Seeing none, please vote. Yes. Yes.

[32:10] Thank you councillors. Yes. Thank you councillors.

[32:18] Yes. Thank you

[32:25] Now, do we do the orders of the day?

[32:30] Yes, okay, I'll stay with you.

[32:31] Thank you.

[32:35] Yeah, I'll move that the orders of the day

[32:36] for the August 26th, 2020,

[32:38] 26th of a structured committee meeting

[32:39] be changed as follows.

[32:42] There's a dinner break from five to six PM

[32:44] and a German at nine PM.

[32:48] Thank you, and just could you just give a little bit

[32:50] of an explanation to the public

[32:52] as to what that means as a motion?

[32:56] So, yeah, there's a lot of speakers that are registered for some points, specifically today, and some of the other items as well, and we just determined that we're going to need more time to kind of get through all the items on the agenda because that is the goal for today to make sure we get through everything, so we will be going a bit later and have a break as new.

[33:19] Thank you. Any questions for my colleagues?

[33:23] On that change in order.

[33:26] Please vote.

[33:29] Yes, Madam Clerk.

[33:32] Thank you. We have all the votes.

[33:37] Please display the votes.

[33:40] And that is carried.

[33:43] Madam Clerk, just remind me.

[33:45] I know we discussed this right at the start.

[33:47] Is this where we would also change the timing?

[33:53] That's correct.

[33:53] Yeah. Okay. So I will move.

[33:57] I just got to find it here.

[34:04] I'm going to move time specific on the agenda.

[34:06] So I'm going to move that the follow-up.

[34:08] Councillor Rutherford.

[34:10] For the time limit motion is that.

[34:12] Oh, when you were indicating.

[34:13] Yes, where is that one?

[34:15] I just didn't.

[34:16] I just sent it through the chat.

[34:18] Okay.

[34:18] Please go ahead, Councillor Jones.

[34:20] Thank you.

[34:21] I will move the following motion that the clerk has.

[34:24] That infrastructure committee adjusts the rules on the time limits as set out

[34:28] section 38 of bylaw 18155 Council procedures bylaw for the August 26, 2026 infrastructure committee meeting.

[34:36] So that each approved speaker may speak for a maximum of three minutes and each member of

[34:40] Council has three minutes to ask questions and three minutes to speak or close to bid on a motion.

[34:47] Would you like to introduce that? Yeah, just given the amount to speakers,

[34:51] would just changing it from five minutes to three minutes so we can hear as many voices as

[34:54] possible. If we don't get down the business of the day, it's very hard to deal with any subsequent

[35:00] motions, directions, anything else. So we want to try and hear from as many people as possible.

[35:04] So we're just going to share the mic.

[35:07] Yeah, and I think just the math, if you calculate everybody's speaking time of five minutes,

[35:12] times the number of speakers registered, times presentations from administration and questions

[35:17] of counsel to speakers and the public, we would never, we would never finish this agenda.

[35:22] and unfortunately a lot of the other items on the agenda are also very time sensitive.

[35:26] The next infrastructure committee meeting is not till December and some of the other

[35:33] items have budget impacts as well.

[35:35] So we do need to deal with those other items.

[35:37] So I want to just, from my perspective, speak to this motion and then if others want to speak

[35:43] as well, they're welcome to, you know, we don't take, you know, reducing time of speakers

[35:48] lightly.

[35:48] But this is the balance for trying to strike between making sure we can still make decisions and have people know where we stand on a lot of these items.

[35:58] While also making sure everybody gets a chance to be heard.

[36:02] So anyone else like to speak or any other questions?

[36:06] Okay, please vote.

[36:11] Yes, vote.

[36:12] Thank you, Councillor Pequette.

[36:13] We have all the votes.

[36:16] Please display the votes.

[36:20] And that is carried.

[36:22] Okay, and now do I do the time specific or not yet?

[36:27] Now we go to approval of minutes.

[36:30] Okay, perfect.

[36:33] Councillor Salvatore?

[36:34] I'll move approval of the minutes from the June 24th, 2020,

[36:37] six infrastructure committee meeting.

[36:41] Any questions, errors or emissions on the minutes?

[36:47] Seeing none, please vote.

[36:49] Yes, Madam Clerk.

[36:50] Thank you, Councillor Pequette.

[36:53] We have all the votes.

[36:54] please display the votes and that is carried and I am not aware of any protocol

[37:02] recognitions for today and so we will move to selecting items for debates so

[37:10] my committee colleagues if you would like to select any items please sign up now

[37:22] Councillor GANS.

[37:26] Thank you, I will select 7-6, and bye.

[37:30] So, I'm going to call you so many days.

[37:30] Good luck.

[37:31] The other ones which just speakers on them.

[37:34] So then I'll select 7174.

[37:41] 717374.

[37:43] That's it.

[37:46] Thank you.

[37:47] Councilor Selp.

[37:49] They're selected.

[37:50] You didn't even have any questions about the 72?

[37:55] Nope.

[37:55] But you do have a substantial subject.

[37:58] Okay.

[37:59] Perfect.

[38:00] And I do have questions still on six ones.

[38:04] So I'll select six one.

[38:13] And Councillor NAC?

[38:16] Mayor NAC, sorry.

[38:17] Sorry, I was just leaving myself

[38:19] I was going to get six one as well, but you've got to thank you.

[38:22] No, I'll write your name down for it then.

[38:30] That's it.

[38:32] So go to Councillor Clarke.

[38:34] Can you move the reports not selected for debate?

[38:40] Sure, I'll move that item 7.2 and 7.5, I think are the only ones.

[38:48] I don't want to read the bylaws out yet, but I'll move that those are selected.

[38:55] And 5.1.

[38:56] And 5.1.

[39:03] So we are passing those as recommended.

[39:19] Sorry, before the vote, I see I wouldn't mind selecting one more.

[39:25] Okay, I'm understanding that there is a desire from a non-committee member to also select

[39:32] 7.2 first in question, so we will add a courtesy select 7.2 as well, I'll put that

[39:40] down as Councillor NAC, selected that, Fudge,

[39:46] Mayor NAC, selected that, and we will just

[39:52] state that it was the moving of omnibus for items 5.1 and 7.5 correct

[40:01] council clerk. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I'll move the omnibus for items 5.1 and 7.5 be

[40:08] approved as recommended.

[40:12] Any other questions? It please vote.

[40:22] Thank you, Councillor Pequette.

[40:30] We have all the votes. Please display the votes and that is carried.

[40:43] Councillor Rutherford, would you like me to review what was just approved? Yes, please.

[40:48] Thank you. So this morning, infrastructure committee approved the following reports without debate.

[40:53] District 5.1, District Energy Strategy and Options with a revised due date of November 4th,

[41:00] 2026, and item 7.5 by LO21549, closure of vehicle access to titled Parson, which

[41:08] will go up to Council for approval.

[41:12] Thank you very much.

[41:14] Now I will go, Councillor Salvador, can you read in the request to speak?

[41:20] Yes.

[41:21] I'll move the infrastructure committee here from the following speakers and panels when appropriate.

[41:25] On 7-1, David Johnson, Ryan Christensen, Raff Tenderenda, Carolyn Osadiac,

[41:33] Fallen Schellenberg,

[41:37] on 7-3, Erica Strada, on 7-4, Mike Melros, Danielson, Jesse Watson, Heather McKenzie,

[41:45] Pre-Kang, Raff Tenderanda, Lori Lynn Grigor, Joshua Buck, and on 7-6, Noah Acle, Emily

[41:58] Strimmel, David Berry, Lyle, Triton, Dave Sutherland, Kevin Ortenan, Erin

[42:06] Badnik, Alex Brooker, Hannah Davidson, Keaton Hawkswell, Everett Horner, Chris

[42:12] Angian Phillips, Carly Chen, Brenda Nectagal, Marilyn Chen,

[42:19] Helen Westman, William Van Agen, Cindy Westerhout,

[42:24] Michelle Nailer, Paige Kupporten, Foster Karcha,

[42:29] Rainier Lambers, Micubar, Ryan, Mark Lee, Elizabeth Fair,

[42:34] Carambe, you're seeing Terry Skinnick, Allison McIntosh,

[42:37] McIntosh, Olivia Maynard, Jacob Kriger,

[42:40] Sheila Campbell, Sarah Busby, Alex Busby, Laura Delay, Keith Hustlinga, Michael Rowling

[42:52] Hoff, Austin Nielsen Petter, Brad Thesen, Julianne Weber, Katie Hill, Benjamin Frank,

[43:01] Lake Johnson, Kristen Constable, Edwin Schale, Teresa Felling, Cameron Snothers, Ian

[43:10] Peter's Jacob Duong, Carl Parkinson, Alexander Lima, Kelly Gomont, Connor Berry, Rachel

[43:20] Bembridge, Renee Weisberg, Lauren Harding, Dean, Dresdale, James Phillips, Jason Wang,

[43:29] Melissa's Terosta, Paul's Terosta, and Justin Wheeler.

[43:37] Thank you very much for that, and I just want to make a note to my committee colleagues

[43:45] in the public at this time, so in the interest of hearing from everyone who submitted

[43:49] request to speak ahead of today's meeting, I would prefer that we do not make any motions

[43:54] to hear from any additional speakers after dealing with this section of today's agenda.

[44:00] So with that, are there any other questions about the request to speak?

[44:09] Oh sorry. Please vote.

[44:24] Just waiting on one vote.

[44:26] Councillor Piccad, are you with us?

[44:31] Yes. Thank you. We have all the votes.

[44:39] Great. And please

[44:40] just wait a vote. And that is carried.

[44:46] And now Councillor Jams, you haven't done a motion yet.

[44:51] Would you like to do the time-specific?

[44:53] I love you.

[44:55] Click to help me with the wording.

[44:58] We will do that on the screen.

[44:59] Oh, thank you.

[45:00] I move that item 7.6 active transportation acceleration program update, be moved to the first item of business, and that 7.1 impact of weather events on construction projects, the verbal report, be the second item of business, 7.3 public art, to enhance Edmonton's public realm policy, be the third item of business and climate resilience policy, review, be the fourth item of business.

[45:28] Would you like to introduce?

[45:29] Yeah, this will allow us to, there's a couple of times sensitive decisions that we need to make.

[45:36] Everything's important. We want to get to all of it, but this will allow us for meeting management to be smoother.

[45:41] Yeah, and I would just add that we've just ordered all of them, the Empire were tized.

[45:48] All of the items were speakers on them, so that we go through first, so this does mean.

[45:53] If you were signed up for the item on the bike plan, and you thought you would be later in the afternoon,

[46:02] we're actually going to start the panels as our first item of business if this motion passes.

[46:08] So if you know people that are also wanting to speak to this or register to speak,

[46:13] we know the clerk I asked I confirmed will be sending out notification to all the speakers of the change in orders of the day.

[46:22] It's more pertinent for anybody that would be listed in panel one, because we will do

[46:27] doing those speakers in panels of 15, and I'll explain what that means in a little bit,

[46:34] but I just wanted to help, because I know some new faces, some people that maybe have never

[46:38] been here before, and we were making a lot of changes to do agenda management, and I wanted

[46:43] to just help the public follow along.

[46:46] And with that, please vote.

[46:54] Yes, I'm sorry. Thank you Councillor Pequette. We have all the votes. Please display the votes and that is carried.

[47:06] I have not received any council inquiries so we do not have any council inquiries at this time.

[47:12] We do not have any reports to be dealt with at a different meeting.

[47:16] We've passed the request for rescheduled, and so we can just move now but into our first

[47:24] item as per our new amended agenda, so that will be item 7.6, active transportation implementation

[47:31] acceleration program update.

[47:35] Again, I just want to give a little bit of context on both process and then expectations

[47:41] as we go into to the meeting. What we typically do is we have administration, we'll do their

[47:49] full presentation and then once they're finished their presentation that's when we go into

[47:54] speakers. When we have a lot of speakers as is the case with this item we do it in panels so

[48:00] you will be in a one of five panels if you're registered to speak on this item and the clerk will

[48:06] let you know which panel you are.

[48:08] And then within your panel, you'll all be called up.

[48:11] If you're in chambers, you would come to these seats here.

[48:15] If you are online, you would just identify that you're here.

[48:19] And then we let every panelist speak for the three minutes

[48:22] that we've now decided is the timing for this agenda today.

[48:28] And then after every panelist has spoken,

[48:31] that's when committee members and other members of council

[48:34] We'll have an opportunity to ask the speakers any questions they have.

[48:38] So you'll want to stay around if you possible to for the question period with counselors.

[48:45] Once all questions have been asked of the public then Council will move on to the next panel and so forth until all panels are completed.

[48:54] Once all panels are completed and we've asked all our questions to the public.

[48:58] That's when we go back to administration and have our questions and any direction

[49:04] that we'll give to administration.

[49:07] So I hope that helps break that down.

[49:09] And I also do want to remind everyone that we really pride ourselves on being a very open

[49:13] level of government.

[49:14] But with that, we need to make sure that we are respectful of one another, both in person

[49:21] and virtual.

[49:24] So there is a full diversity of opinions that exist in our community.

[49:29] And so my role as chair is to moderate the nature of the content being discussed is not to moderate the nature of the content being discussed

[49:38] between sure behaviors are safe,

[49:40] respectful and neutral spaces for my colleagues, city employees and the public.

[49:45] So disrespectful comments, including the use of profane language or gestures, behaviors like shouting, cheering, clapping will not be tolerated,

[49:55] as well as the use of the raised hand feature chat, uh, emoticons, those kind of things,

[50:03] or using any AI note-taking tools in the virtual meet are not permitted. So, um, you know,

[50:10] we don't, we don't like to have to do it, but we will, uh, ask security to remove anybody that

[50:16] is violating these expectations, um, and they will not be permitted to rejoin the meeting and

[50:21] not be provided any additional warnings. So I just want to start with that context and I think

[50:29] that's a Madam Clerk have I covered everything? Yes you did. Thank you. And now we will go to

[50:37] the presentation from administration. Please go ahead. Good morning. I want to begin by saying that

[50:45] we're grateful for the opportunity to provide clarity around this update and what we're seeking

[50:49] from committee today. Before I hand things over to Sarah and her team, I wanted to provide

[50:53] a bit of additional context and I wanted to apologize to committee as well. And the public

[50:58] for the confusion this item may have caused, including the multiple updated attachments we

[51:05] issued as we worked through this file. While we should have this finalized before bringing it

[51:12] forward, this time is allowed administration to work through the details and getting greater clarity

[51:17] on the path forward.

[51:19] To this end, the Tasman Phi was updated yesterday to clarify the modified approach.

[51:23] Council's direction has been clear and we are implementing the Active Transportation

[51:26] Network Expansion Program.

[51:28] Over the last several months, the context in which we deliver this program has been shifting.

[51:33] We've also received a lot of feedback on trade-offs and wanted to give the committee an

[51:38] update on an and a chance to consider a modified approach.

[51:41] From a governance perspective, it's important that we bring emerging issues to council when

[51:46] We could have impact on previous direction.

[51:51] As mentioned, we've made another update to attachment five to bring more clarity to the modified approach.

[51:56] We're looking at in the program across the buckets of work.

[52:01] One in completed infrastructure, all routes completed to date that remain in place as key connections in our network.

[52:07] Currently, our second currently under construction, the projects actively being built.

[52:12] Third, evaluated routes moving forward as planned.

[52:14] those routes that are planned and not impact travel into parking, these will proceed as planned.

[52:22] Noting that, we're nearing the end of 2026 construction season, implementing will span both

[52:27] this year and next and fourth.

[52:30] We're viewing routes that further opportunities for potential redesign. So the remaining routes that will be evaluated for options for trade-offs, alternative designs, treatments, and funding impacts.

[52:43] In Q1 of 2027, we plan to bring forward a report outlining the options for these remaining routes and will include an update on the remaining funding and budget implications as well for council direction and approval.

[52:57] To provide more details on where we're at, we'd have to propose and how we propose to handle the next phase of this program, I will now hand things over to Sarah.

[53:08] Thank you.

[53:10] When Council approved the funding of this program, the direction was to build district connectors to rapidly expand the active transportation network.

[53:19] We were responsible for selecting the specific routes that would best deliver that direction.

[53:25] Since then, administration has delivered over 40 new connections and is on track to complete nearly 50 kilometers of network routes by the end of 2026.

[53:34] To fast-track delivery, administration focused on informing residents about plan changes with direct outreach reserved for property owners facing specific access impacts.

[53:45] Adding roots to mature neighborhoods requires reallocating limited street space, which results

[53:51] in trade-offs, like moving on street parking, reconfiguring driving lanes, and changing

[53:56] local traffic patterns.

[53:58] Less complex locations, those requiring fewer trade-offs were designed and installed first,

[54:05] with a focus on rapid implementation.

[54:08] And roots requiring more complex design solutions and trade-offs, rescheduled for later phases

[54:13] to allow adequate time for planning and that brings us to where we are today.

[54:21] For additional clarity, these are the act of transportation projects that are already

[54:26] underway and which will continue as planned.

[54:31] And these are the routes under the modified approach that will be evaluated for trade-offs,

[54:36] alternative design treatments and budget implications.

[54:42] Before we conclude our presentation in here for members of the public, I want to reiterate,

[54:47] Nothing is being canceled, but we are evaluating our options considering the trade-offs and design alternatives.

[54:55] We're committed to keeping this committee fully informed as we move forward and we'll provide further updates in Q127.

[55:02] With that, we look forward to questions from committee following public speakers. Thank you.

[55:09] Thank you very much.

[55:11] And now we will move to our first panel,

[55:16] but before we do Madam Clerk,

[55:18] can you confirm that you were able to send out

[55:20] that notification to the panelists?

[55:24] Or it'll confirm with our team.

[55:27] Yeah, I just want to,

[55:28] if there are people that are not in attendance,

[55:29] what we might do is just go through,

[55:33] if there's a lot of people that are not here on panel one,

[55:35] I'll start calling to get to 15 from panel two,

[55:39] just to give them do you see what I'm saying? Okay, perfect.

[55:49] So I'm going to start as I mentioned,

[55:51] calling up panel 1 and if you're here, please I just identify yourself and then the clerks will

[55:57] guide you to your seat. If you're online, please just unmute yourself and identify that you are here for us.

[56:04] So, in panel one we have Noah Acleew, Lou,

[56:18] Emily Stremel.

[56:19] Good morning.

[56:22] Thanks Emily.

[56:24] Okay, David Barry,

[56:32] Lyle Triton.

[56:35] Okay, please come down.

[56:36] The clerk will guide you.

[56:39] Dave Sutherland.

[56:47] To have, sorry to Dave unmute.

[56:52] Okay Kevin, we're Chintin,

[56:58] Erin Buttnic, please come down,

[57:08] Alex Broker,

[57:14] who did I hear

[57:16] good morning from Alex?

[57:18] Yes, that's me.

[57:19] Hi.

[57:20] Okay, perfect.

[57:22] Hannah Davis, Davidson,

[57:29] Keaton Hawkswell.

[57:32] Hello.

[57:34] Everett Horner,

[57:39] hello, Chris Chang Yan Phillips.

[57:46] Hope, turn your mind.

[57:47] Yep, perfect, thank you.

[57:50] Carly Chen,

[57:58] Brenda, Natch, Tegale Lee.

[58:02] Sorry if I'm not seeing your name appropriately.

[58:05] Natasha, is that you?

[58:07] Oh, Brenda, Brenda, sorry yes.

[58:10] Yep, just go over there and then Merlin Chen.

[58:19] Okay, and so that's one.

[58:23] So I have eight that have of that panel that said that they were available. So I'll start going into panel two for another

[58:31] seven

[58:33] Madam clerk, okay

[58:36] And then we can come back to those that were maybe not available for panel two. Okay, Kellyn Westman

[58:45] William Van Egan

[58:52] Cindy Westerhout

[58:56] He's come on down

[59:00] Michelle Nailer

[59:07] Paige Portten

[59:14] Foster Kirsha?

[59:16] Here.

[59:17] Here. Thank you, Foster.

[59:21] Rainer Lambers.

[59:24] Yes, I am here.

[59:25] Perfect, thank you, Rainer.

[59:28] Mike, who he hived?

[59:32] Hype?

[59:39] Brian Marclie.

[59:41] Yep, come on down.

[59:46] Elizabeth Fair.

[59:48] Perfect. Thank you, Elizabeth.

[59:50] And then,

[59:51] Care ambeer sink

[1:00:00] Terri Skidnik. Terri, did I see you raise your hand?

[1:00:04] Yep, okay. That's 15. So we'll start with with those 15 speakers.

[1:00:23] For those that have been here before, we usually do have lights that will give you an indicator.

[1:00:27] But because those lights are set to the five-minute timer, they're going to be offered today.

[1:00:32] So just please make sure to look up at the screen if you need to get a time check and it's on both sides.

[1:00:38] So if you want to look, that's the timer that we'll be using in chambers.

[1:00:47] Okay, and with that, I think we're ready to start.

[1:00:51] So we will go back to Emily for your three minutes presentation.

[1:00:55] So please go ahead.

[1:00:57] Do you have a good morning?

[1:00:59] Yep.

[1:01:00] I don't have a presentation, I think.

[1:01:01] Thanks.

[1:01:04] Good morning.

[1:01:05] My name's Emily.

[1:01:05] I'm living Wardow Damon and somebody that gets around by bike.

[1:01:11] I love getting around by bike.

[1:01:13] It makes my day better in a way that driving never dies.

[1:01:18] It keeps me healthy. It keeps a car off the road.

[1:01:22] The changes to this active infrastructure implementation

[1:01:26] are presented in the context of legislation that may be occurring at the provincial level.

[1:01:33] Edmonton voted for the Council that is in right now, and I voted for the previous Council,

[1:01:39] who made the active network promises that they did, and I think that should be honored,

[1:01:48] and I am going to read the first paragraph from the first chapter of Onturnie by Timothy Snyder.

[1:02:00] Do you have a way in advance? Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given, in times

[1:02:06] like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and

[1:02:10] then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power

[1:02:15] what it can do. And, since the petroleum obedience is a political tragedy, perhaps rulers do not

[1:02:21] initially know that citizens are willing to compromise this value or that principle. Perhaps

[1:02:26] the regime did not at first have the direct means of influencing citizens one way or another.

[1:02:34] I'd like to see the rest of my time.

[1:02:36] Thank you.

[1:02:38] Thank you very much, Emily. I appreciate you being here and now we move on to

[1:02:43] Lyle Triton.

[1:02:48] Thank you, Councillor.

[1:02:50] I've lived in many parts of Edmonton. Oh, I have a presentation.

[1:02:53] Is it?

[1:02:54] Okay, just pause the time. Can we make sure the presentation gets up?

[1:03:00] We're just loading it up now.

[1:03:01] Thank you.

[1:03:03] So I'll just wait till we see the presentation and then I'll start your time.

[1:03:06] Thank you.

[1:03:12] Excellent.

[1:03:13] Okay. Please go ahead.

[1:03:15] Thank you very much. Next slide, please.

[1:03:18] I've lived in many parts of Edmonton and Encyclot here for more than 50 years.

[1:03:22] Road cycling in Edmonton has become more dangerous for many reasons, including those shown.

[1:03:28] I was of vehicular cyclist. I no longer dare.

[1:03:32] But I still cycle throughout the city all year round.

[1:03:34] it's my preferred mode of transportation and my card lives in my garage most of the time.

[1:03:40] Next slide please. As I think forward to aging, I'm 61 now. I want to remain healthy and active

[1:03:46] and minimize my burden on our society and I know that a life without driving is coming for us all.

[1:03:53] I saw the limitations placed on my father when he quite correctly gave up his driver's license. It reduced his life.

[1:04:00] We have done some great next slide, please.

[1:04:04] We have done some great things with the network, but many are less than they could be.

[1:04:08] I disagree that it has been rapid, and I understand the concerns from pedestrians on mobs.

[1:04:14] I have concerns too.

[1:04:16] My ride here today was about 80% protected bike lane, and that part was a lovely.

[1:04:22] Next slide, please.

[1:04:24] I encourage Council to not slow down, to speed up, perhaps with a little less rigor in construction.

[1:04:31] Some of these projects have taken a very long time.

[1:04:36] Some stuff might get ripped out, but the government is going to do that if they're going to do that.

[1:04:40] And if you stop much of what you are doing today, they'll still rip stuff out.

[1:04:44] And we will be left with a more dangerous city than we could have.

[1:04:48] Next slide, please.

[1:04:52] Not everything people say about cyclists and infrastructure comes from a place of making a better city, on both sides.

[1:04:59] I have in use a car, but it lives on my property, not society's property.

[1:05:04] I remind Council that there are a few things under their control.

[1:05:09] Next slide, please.

[1:05:10] But more active transportation is better for everyone in our shared society,

[1:05:14] and that only comes from good, direct connections that work for people to get them where they need to go.

[1:05:19] Thank you. I see the rest of my time.

[1:05:24] Thank you very much. And now we will go to air and

[1:05:28] button it. I think that's the next one that I have here. Yep.

[1:05:35] Good morning. I'm Aaron Buttonick with the Yegbite Coalition. We support

[1:05:38] at me and we support all of the Roots Plan for 2026, proceeding on schedule. These Roots

[1:05:44] are not new ideas. They have been through years of planning, data review, public engagement,

[1:05:48] prior to this project through bike plan, engineering, review, and design iterations.

[1:05:55] They were selected because they were, would contribute to a connected, safe, and useful

[1:05:59] active transportation network.

[1:06:01] We've learned a lot from the routes already built.

[1:06:03] The program had some stumbles early on, but the AT&T team has learned from those challenges

[1:06:07] and we've seen meaningful improvements in execution, design, and delivery.

[1:06:11] In particular, many of the routes for this year are probably some of the best examples

[1:06:16] of their type that we've seen in the city anywhere.

[1:06:20] There are still legitimate opportunities to improve design, of course, engagement and implementation

[1:06:25] as well, but these are reasons to build their remaining routes better, not reasons to put

[1:06:32] them back on the drawing board.

[1:06:34] The remaining routes are more complex because they require difficult trade-offs between parking,

[1:06:39] vehicle lanes, trees, utilities, and safe infrastructure.

[1:06:42] Solving those trade-offs is the work of transportation planning.

[1:06:46] We want to see at me continue into the next budget as well,

[1:06:50] with the focus on improving this connectivity,

[1:06:52] infrastructure quality and safety.

[1:06:54] We really don't need to start over.

[1:06:55] We need to keep improving and we need to keep building this year.

[1:06:59] Thank you.

[1:07:01] Thank you very much.

[1:07:03] And now we will go to Alex Brooker online.

[1:07:13] Hi, good morning.

[1:07:14] Good morning, please go.

[1:07:15] I'm here.

[1:07:17] I'm here today to voice my support

[1:07:18] for the continued do about the city's active transportation network and to speak against the

[1:07:24] recommendation from city administration.

[1:07:27] So, firstly, we just had an election where the...

[1:07:30] The active transportation network bill that was a key issue and where the threats of the provincial government's legislation were hanging over this topic, even then.

[1:07:38] Edmontonians made their choice, so I'm not thrilled that this is even being considered again.

[1:07:44] To talk about why I'm in favor of the continued bill about our active transportation network in particular, I live on 79th Street in Idaho wild, which is slated to turn from a two-way road with parking to a one-way and protected bike lanes.

[1:07:58] I could not be more in favor of this change.

[1:08:01] The bike lane will allow my son, the opportunity to get it on the neighborhood,

[1:08:05] and one is all enough to get to school safely on his bike.

[1:08:09] Without the need for his parents to add an additional card to corner streets with traffic.

[1:08:14] The bike lane would also allow me to commute to downtown safely on my bike.

[1:08:19] Every day I see kids and people of all ages biking up and down 79th street.

[1:08:23] And I just think to myself, I hope they don't get hit by a car and I hope the city provides them a safe place to ride on the road.

[1:08:33] My wife and I love to take our bikes out for fun and errands when we can, but frankly we don't use them as much as we would.

[1:08:40] Almost without fail, every time we are out and biking on the streets, we encounter neither overtly aggressive behavior or passive aggressive behavior from motorists.

[1:08:48] Well, we need as a place on the street where cyclists belong, which would make it nicer for everyone.

[1:08:56] So with respect to Saturday Night Street in particular, taking away a direction of travel,

[1:09:01] we'll limit the amount of people ripping through our neighborhood, keeping us safer.

[1:09:05] Again, we're referring to some and other kids playing around Saturday Night Street.

[1:09:08] If you can limit the number of distracting aggressive drivers in the neighborhood,

[1:09:13] our neighborhood will be safer.

[1:09:15] I have a car and I drive for the majority of my trips, but I park my car in my garage and I

[1:09:22] recognize there would still be many ways in and out of our neighborhood. My guests also already

[1:09:29] never park their car in 79th Street, preferring instead to park along a side street. I see the time,

[1:09:37] so I will conclude by saying that when we're being a material for today's hearing, I was surprised

[1:09:43] to see that many bike lanes, including the 79th Street portion, had not even been put out to

[1:09:48] tender yet.

[1:09:49] The active transportation network build-out has been under discussion and in the process of being

[1:09:54] implemented for several years with a municipal election also occurring in that time.

[1:09:59] Edmontonies have had their say, and administration needs to get on with building out the remaining

[1:10:04] portions of the bike lane, but the provincial government wants to come in and take and

[1:10:09] tax payer funds, tax payer funds, destroying infrastructure. That's on them. Thank you.

[1:10:17] Thank you very much, and now I will move to Keaton Hawkswell, which is also online.

[1:10:26] I'll tell a while there's been this notion that we are just talking past each other.

[1:10:31] We just need one more round of consultation, one more town hall, one more audit in the journal

[1:10:37] or Instagram posts. The problem may just be that on key values, some people, fundamentally

[1:10:45] called opposing beliefs. This attack on bike lanes is not about a lack of consultation.

[1:10:52] They just don't like cyclists. The van on speed cameras, it's not some misunderstanding

[1:10:57] over how funds were used. They just want to drive as fast as possible. They are opposed

[1:11:05] departments, they are opposed to traffic calming, they are opposed to the idea that cyclists

[1:11:11] have the same right to the road as they do. They are opposed to the idea that the safety

[1:11:16] of a child crossing the road could take precedence over their desire to get to Costco

[1:11:21] as fast as possible. This isn't every resident, but you have to realize that if you believe

[1:11:27] in climate change, that less people should die on our streets than the people organizing these protests,

[1:11:34] the people lobbying out of town politicians, the failed politicians who literally run against you.

[1:11:41] Well, they oppose you. They are the opposition. The problem is that on key values,

[1:11:49] some of these people just hold opposing beliefs. We can't bull size this issue.

[1:11:55] We can't make our streets safe and never ask drivers to give up a little bit of space.

[1:12:00] Either we are going to make our street safer, or more people will die, that is the choice.

[1:12:08] There just might not be a compromise.

[1:12:11] They have already shown that they will crawl through the province to end bike lanes, to add speed enforcement,

[1:12:17] and I'm sure you are aware that they want to do the same with info.

[1:12:23] We might just have to realize that we are on different sides.

[1:12:26] The task isn't to find a happy solution. That makes everyone happy. It has, it is to what?

[1:12:34] less people die.

[1:12:36] Thank you.

[1:12:39] Thank you. And now, ever at Horner?

[1:12:45] Thank you. Can you hear me, all right?

[1:12:47] We can't. Yes, please go ahead.

[1:12:49] Thank you. Hi, my name is Everett.

[1:12:52] I live in Ward, Odemon. I've lived in Edmonton for the last eight years. And I have been on the car since

[1:13:01] So I use my bikes to get around as much as I possibly can, I use them to commute to appointments,

[1:13:09] I use them to get groceries, I use them to go to work when I don't walk, I even take

[1:13:15] my bike to Costco.

[1:13:17] When I'm doing this, I greatly value all the protected routes that we do have in place, and

[1:13:23] really wish we had more. I think that everyone deserves to be safe when they're

[1:13:29] commuting to work, when they're doing their daily activities, living their lives. And I think

[1:13:35] the evidence from here in Edmonton from across North America and from around the world clearly

[1:13:41] shows that building more protected by pedestrian friendly infrastructure will make everyone safer.

[1:13:49] drivers included. I am also a driver. I drive frequently for work.

[1:13:55] So I think the goal of this network expansion and the mandate that City Council has is to change the transportation habits of people in Edmonton.

[1:14:08] That is the state of goal. We want to incentivize more active transportation use.

[1:14:14] I agree with everything that's been said by those who spoke in before me, and I would say that the trade-offs just are necessary.

[1:14:22] If we want to change people's behavior, if we want to allow people like me who want to change their behavior,

[1:14:30] who change their behavior even further, it is just a reality that we need to make trade-offs with the way things have been done today.

[1:14:39] We've decided as an electorate as a city through the recent election that we want things

[1:14:49] to change and change is always going to be a little bit uncomfortable and I firmly believe

[1:14:55] that we need to push on in deliverance.

[1:15:00] During these network expansions, in recognizing where we can do things better, but not slowing down.

[1:15:08] And not allowing this potential network to be prejudged before it's even completed.

[1:15:16] You know, too many of us have seen bike lanes that lead to nowhere, that don't connect to anything.

[1:15:22] And of course, if you build a road in the middle of nowhere, it's going to seem useless.

[1:15:26] So we need to push on, we need to expand the network, we need to do more, not less, and only then can we allow the work to be judged fairly after it's really had a chance to deliver as promised.

[1:15:42] Thank you.

[1:15:44] Thank you.

[1:15:45] And now we will go to Chris Cheng and Philips.

[1:15:50] It's not good.

[1:15:51] I don't know.

[1:15:52] I can even consider this decision, I guess.

[1:15:56] I'm going to talk to an resident.

[1:15:57] I'm going to have stereo on the phone or serial words.

[1:16:00] I walk, I drive at about 10 days.

[1:16:03] I run my bike.

[1:16:04] And for most of our way to work, I work with confidence

[1:16:07] that I wouldn't be telling.

[1:16:09] And with cloud and I say it's climate mitigation efforts

[1:16:11] because after decades I've said it's an advocacy

[1:16:13] and political masterizing those bikes.

[1:16:16] I said you don't have to infiltrate back

[1:16:18] the transcription of the structure for me to get there safely, and now you're considering

[1:16:23] the burning of alcohol before it's a different beat.

[1:16:27] And let's go to the other speakers, I want to remind you of some of the equino-like

[1:16:31] equations, keep safe from the way it serves.

[1:16:34] What can you do this week?

[1:16:36] A U of A student named Isaac Kornison, who's fighting down on our behalf.

[1:16:39] He was a cross-country in track of youth and Goldenbergs, and he worked with

[1:16:43] in physics, you saw the one, he was told that he struck a mirror in a hot truck, lost control

[1:16:49] of his bike, and a lot of advice, and that fact rather going on.

[1:16:54] Because that's not for the tragedy, but it was also a failure in our city to provide safe

[1:16:58] and convenient options if you did not get what they need to go.

[1:17:01] Now, tell you the problem of gravely shoulder between facts and maybe I think the bike laying

[1:17:06] in other places were acceptable infrastructure.

[1:17:08] And now, I leave a little bit of some of the first and the easiest applications for the

[1:17:13] intensity.

[1:17:14] I was walking through one of the last nights.

[1:17:16] And some of the people I saw are using those links included, like, our neighbor biking with

[1:17:20] flowers and the communities, because she's well-cooked all of this easier to bike and to walk.

[1:17:25] I think kids and push schools that show that excuse me, that I don't buy a kid biking alone

[1:17:29] into the playground, a senior biking alone, friends who want to talk to you, kind of like,

[1:17:34] I don't know if other people over all ages were laughing and having fun and not dying.

[1:17:39] My grandparents don't have fun talking a few years ago after we got my clients all across.

[1:17:43] And they didn't like them because some of our streets are blown way down,

[1:17:46] it's a little harder for them to get around a point parking.

[1:17:49] But they don't, they travel through it.

[1:17:52] And I love that now and I can do it.

[1:17:54] I'm confident that I'm tensed over the world of my father.

[1:17:57] I'm not going to be killed by a truck driver who's near about three close,

[1:18:00] or a car opening their door in front of me in a painted way.

[1:18:03] I think other women tell me, and all parts of the city deserve that choice, and we're counting on you to deliver on that promise.

[1:18:11] As some of the other people in the country, your job is to need the city that serves the people who live here,

[1:18:15] not to bother them in advance to a concentration minister who doesn't care about our city, who wants to take us against the federal, who's making a road,

[1:18:22] and I'll highlight more dangerous and call you funded, who raises a glass of Donald Trump.

[1:18:26] A lot of us have lost jobs in public.

[1:18:28] So if you're thinking a lot of things last, this is not the point of personal launch, making

[1:18:34] a decision about how we get around safely, we expect you to put up a fight when people

[1:18:38] like this come for our future, so please hope for us.

[1:18:45] Thank you.

[1:18:46] Are you, you're complete your time?

[1:18:50] Okay.

[1:18:50] And Brenda.

[1:18:57] So I have to agree with what everybody has said before.

[1:19:01] I would just like to put my personal spin on it.

[1:19:05] So I'm a driver, a pedestrian, a public transit rider, and a cyclist.

[1:19:09] I commute on my bike between Larksburg to show it park roughly three times a week, and it's a minimum of 20 kilometers each way.

[1:19:16] 50th street is the only way I can make it safely, and I can do this only because of the new shared use pathway,

[1:19:23] between Roper Road and 100 and 1st staff.

[1:19:25] It is very busy, and I see people using it all the time.

[1:19:29] like it is constant, however, north of a hundred and first street, I currently cut through industrial

[1:19:37] roads and through gold stick park on an extremely steep, washed-out trail with loose gravel

[1:19:42] to make it to gold bar park so I can go across the river. This is because behind,

[1:19:48] about between a hundred and first and a hundred and six bath, the long 50th street,

[1:19:52] I regularly see people speeding up to 70 kilometers per hour and the sidewalks are narrow

[1:19:57] in poor condition.

[1:19:59] Don't get me wrong, the roads are wide.

[1:20:00] There's lots of room.

[1:20:03] And I know 50th Street is getting a redesign

[1:20:05] and not being canceled.

[1:20:07] But I'm OK, and I'm OK with the current extended route.

[1:20:11] But many wouldn't be.

[1:20:12] And these new bike lanes being planned could mean more people

[1:20:14] getting out of their vehicle and making

[1:20:16] my probability trips.

[1:20:18] In regards to redesign, for giving roads

[1:20:20] is a road design principle that uses the understanding

[1:20:23] that drivers will make mistakes.

[1:20:25] But the design of the road should

[1:20:27] allow for recovery or to minimize injury or death.

[1:20:30] On highways, this usually includes having a clear zone or breakway

[1:20:34] science, but can we make public roads and infrastructure

[1:20:37] for giving for all users and not just vehicles?

[1:20:41] Vehicles can cause expensive damage.

[1:20:44] I mean, how many times is the vehicle hit the LRT or street

[1:20:46] car in the past three weeks?

[1:20:49] But if a cyclist or motorist, a cyclist, makes a mistake.

[1:20:53] It costs the cyclists significantly more.

[1:20:57] The previous speaker spoke about this,

[1:21:02] the student getting hit because of people opening or it was a mirror,

[1:21:08] but people opening their doors.

[1:21:11] Clear separation with a hard barrier,

[1:21:13] and this could be a curb or Jersey barrier between vehicles and cyclists

[1:21:16] should absolutely be mandatory in areas with complexity and higher speeds.

[1:21:20] In addition, since the speeds cameras are now not allowed in most places, an alternative solution would be to have the roads redesigned to slow traffic down, which absolutely should include separated bike lanes, and if that means sacrificing some parking spots, it's a good balance.

[1:21:38] Thank you very much for your time and I see the rest of my time.

[1:21:43] Thank you. And just for the record, how do you pronounce your last name?

[1:21:46] Because I think I really did a terrible job. It's Nightingale. Nightingale?

[1:21:50] Yeah. Well, I really did the bad job. Okay.

[1:21:55] Thank you. I'll make no to that for next time.

[1:21:59] Cindy, Wester, Hout.

[1:22:02] Good morning. Yes. Do you have a presentation or just speaking?

[1:22:05] I'm just speaking. Thank you. Please go ahead.

[1:22:07] Good morning. My name is Cindy Westerhout and I am a long-term resident in Hollywood

[1:22:10] and living on 79th street in 92nd Avenue. And I'm speaking on behalf of the Hollywood 79th street by

[1:22:17] cleaning engagement group. I am a multi-model traveler. I drive. I walk. I ride the LRT and I cycle.

[1:22:24] And our community does some port active transportation. We are pro thoughtful design creating meaningful.

[1:22:32] We urge the committee to approve the administration's recommendation and attachment 5, and that is to pause and re-evaluate the design through consultation with local community.

[1:22:43] The 79-street plan relies on outdated city-wide survey data from 2019 and 2020, and since then our reality has significantly changed.

[1:22:51] We are already managing traffic, friction, and LRT signal delays, while also adapting

[1:22:58] to rapid infill density, which is squeezing street parking.

[1:23:02] This plan seems to have been designed in isolation, in a holler route, it imposes a bi-directional

[1:23:08] bike lane with a rigid one-way conversion, and eliminates northbound left-turns onto

[1:23:13] 91, 92, 93A, and 97 Avenue.

[1:23:17] The city is on 25 design standards. It admits that by-directional facilities that have a high degree of risk, particularly at intersections and driveway locations.

[1:23:30] For residents, restricting these turns cut off primary routes home in and out and pushing vehicles already on to congested 75th Street or through unplowed back alleys.

[1:23:42] For the 47 front lots, homes on 79th street between White Avenue 101st Avenue, eliminating

[1:23:48] curb space, forces visitors, home services, emergency services, and deliveries to park up

[1:23:53] to 200 meters away.

[1:23:55] Accessibility for three homes, accessibility parking for three homes has already been removed,

[1:24:00] and loading zones for three churches will also be lost.

[1:24:03] But what most critically disturbs me so far in the design that there are severe safety hazards

[1:24:09] around a call school in Hollywood. Our principal Lisa Nortigol has highlighted three key pieces,

[1:24:17] heavy vehicle dependencies one. Hollywood serves 420 French immersion student to come from across

[1:24:24] Edmonton. And over 84% of those students arrived by car, bus, or daycare, van. Family's need

[1:24:31] of safe place to drop their children. Bus loading is own conflict. The proposed shared path

[1:24:36] we cut directly through an 80-meter bus load in zone

[1:24:39] where over 100 elementary students gather daily.

[1:24:42] Writing, bike, and e-suit or traffic through that

[1:24:44] will create significant hazard.

[1:24:47] And finally, winter hazard, displacing drop-off traffic

[1:24:50] onto narrow side streets during winter, particularly

[1:24:53] when snow banks, narrow roads, and blind sight lines,

[1:24:56] compounds these risks exponentially.

[1:24:59] This is not theoretical, and in front of Hollywood School,

[1:25:02] there stands a memorial bench dedicated to a student

[1:25:04] who was tragically killed in a traffic accident.

[1:25:08] We cannot treat school safety as a trial and error experiments.

[1:25:13] I hope you'll lay some out of time.

[1:25:15] Thank you.

[1:25:18] And now we go to Michelle Nailer.

[1:25:22] She's good.

[1:25:23] Thank you.

[1:25:24] My name is Michelle Nailer.

[1:25:26] And I live in Hollywood.

[1:25:27] I've lived there for 25 years.

[1:25:29] So I'm also here with Cindy.

[1:25:31] speaking on behalf of many concerned hallelujah citizens. We are obviously here to ask

[1:25:38] City Council to remove 79th Street from the accelerated active transportation plan and I want

[1:25:44] to say that I also support active transportation. The current 79th Street plan it really fails

[1:25:50] to address many key issues and the trade-offs are just too great to stick with this current plan.

[1:25:56] Our first major issue is rushed really non-transparent decision-making process, and many

[1:26:03] residents that we've heard from have said that engagement never really materialized at a local

[1:26:09] level.

[1:26:09] I think the city administration's own report states that to expedite timelines, they recycled

[1:26:15] old engagement data instead of directly consulting those who have to live with these changes.

[1:26:21] Because of the rushed timelines, critical details like the total parking removal severe

[1:26:26] turn restrictions and limited side street access were hidden from residents and many are still

[1:26:31] just finding out now exactly what this plan is going to look like. So it's very difficult

[1:26:36] to figure out how it's even going to impact them. And I think that the administration

[1:26:42] report acknowledges that these severe trade-offs have triggered a spike in petitions, inquiries,

[1:26:48] and community opposition. So really community needs are being marginalized in order to rush

[1:26:53] during an infrastructure plan that doesn't work.

[1:26:55] Coming back to the table and looking at alternatives

[1:26:58] and looking at other ways that we can create

[1:27:01] an alternative plan is really important.

[1:27:06] So Cindy already talked about what's happening

[1:27:09] at Hollywood School and I wanted to point out

[1:27:11] Vimey Rage Academy, they serve,

[1:27:14] I think almost 1500 students

[1:27:15] and they'll face a similar situation.

[1:27:18] They have 87% of their students driven

[1:27:21] and a lot of that is because they have specialized

[1:27:23] athletic equipment. So we're talking about schools that serve a population that comes in from a

[1:27:28] cross-edmonton. These are not just neighborhood schools where people could make the choice to

[1:27:34] ride their bikes. And I think that's important to note. They run off-site buses five times a day,

[1:27:41] alongside 10 specialized buses for students and wheelchairs. So Vimey Ridge really needs that two way

[1:27:47] access to 79th Street and 90th Avenue and I think our schools are feeling very concerned about

[1:27:54] how this is going to look and at a busy time when they're trying to get ready for school,

[1:27:58] they're now concerned about how this is going to look. And they've invited council,

[1:28:03] cyclists come by the school next week when it's in when it's in and really see what their

[1:28:08] challenges are and then let's see whether we can't find other solutions. So I think we've already

[1:28:16] said and we've seen that our neighborhoods are really being bombarded by a cumulative

[1:28:21] disruptions. There's so many different things happen impacting us and they're really all coming at once.

[1:28:27] And again, this is a recognized in administrative report. Sorry, so three minutes is goes quickly. Three minutes goes quickly.

[1:28:34] But there may be counselors that come back to you to ask you to finish your thoughts there. So thank you. Thank you so much.

[1:28:44] and foster culture online, I think.

[1:28:49] Good morning.

[1:28:50] Please go ahead.

[1:28:52] Thank you, councillors.

[1:28:54] I'm opposed to the administration's proposal to stop

[1:28:56] with a late implementation of the Act of Transportation.

[1:28:59] It's an exaggeration, but the administration's proposal

[1:29:03] can guarantee the response for the mental legislation

[1:29:05] that doesn't exist.

[1:29:07] It cannot be predicted.

[1:29:08] This gives the musical application work

[1:29:10] and effort that might be into developing the active community condition at work.

[1:29:15] Of course, yet, the administration's proposal does not yet include any of the schedule to do alternatively

[1:29:22] to look at this infrastructure.

[1:29:24] You can make this kind of a monetary company opportunity to send you to a lot more local

[1:29:27] people.

[1:29:28] But the administration is not proposing to complete that work, they are proposing to happen.

[1:29:33] That is unacceptable, it is unacceptable, it is unacceptable, it is unacceptable, it is unsafe.

[1:29:37] The law is the infrastructure, the critical infrastructure directly impacts the life family.

[1:29:43] As my neighborhood Hollywood movies, the cook goes semi-wrench street bike movies,

[1:29:47] and it still operates to neighborhood bike ways to close for 90 seconds out.

[1:29:50] As well as in this circuit actually, both types of capital and one of the one in Australia,

[1:29:56] by the way, while bringing King Edward and Apple more to the side.

[1:30:00] So, I already cycle off on the country where we all see this, to school on the personal items, but there are more trips that we can convert from driving to cycling, to safer, better connecting infrastructure that's constructed, as that one is the application for me.

[1:30:14] There's a lot of new people in our city, we have to have safe, connected and fast alternatives to driving to each other, city needs affordable, that taxes is more than enough to purchase.

[1:30:26] And so you can separate and act as a necessary part of being a user sitting and you cannot be avoided.

[1:30:34] Separated researchers say that they are the one including drivers.

[1:30:38] They're the first ones to be included in drivers.

[1:30:40] These children are the one letting all of our dollars go farther.

[1:30:45] Education system is an necessity.

[1:30:50] You can be interested in the proposal.

[1:30:59] Thank you very much.

[1:31:01] And now we will go to Rainer Limerick Limeers.

[1:31:10] Yes, that's Rainer Limeers.

[1:31:16] I'm on weekends, I managed the bike file a on the corner by the old truck going

[1:31:24] on the foundation markets on Facebook, over 184 to Avenue, and the FLA has been going on

[1:31:31] for three years and doubled the number of visitors year over year or two times, and I think

[1:31:39] This is a great example of seeing Edmonton's bike time work.

[1:31:43] Other and more people are writing the bike studios

[1:31:46] who are going to find their phone with markets

[1:31:47] and using our bike parking there.

[1:31:51] They, we see families writing there with children on their own bikes,

[1:31:55] with cargo bikes, we see military leaders who come to bus

[1:31:58] in front of the market, we see seniors

[1:32:01] that are there writing old-fashioned paddle bikes or e-bikes.

[1:32:05] And I think that what you can see here is also

[1:32:08] how something like this helps old-stuff going out because old-stuff going out is a very vibrant neighborhood.

[1:32:15] There are a lot of businesses there who like to grow and do business work.

[1:32:18] It's also a DJ character of old-stuff and not all these people can come by car.

[1:32:23] Because there's no room for the cars and the cars actually detract from the vibrant and welcoming character that makes old-stuff going out.

[1:32:33] If you look at some of these bike lanes that are being postponed without for review or

[1:32:38] some people would say councils here, they are, in other words, like, like Hollywood, like

[1:32:43] one you do, and they would allow people within a few kilometers of old truck coming up

[1:32:49] to bike there, and I think it's also very clear if you look at this audience of people that

[1:32:54] like to old truck coming up and use our money, they are not people who would ride on busy roads with

[1:33:01] lanes of cars roaring by. These people can do this only because the city has built a lot of

[1:33:07] this protected active transportation infrastructure and

[1:33:15] we continue to reap these benefits

[1:33:17] if we build more of this type of infrastructure. And yes, regarding the concerns, yeah, provincial

[1:33:24] legislation, and when they do it, they do it, but let's not comply in anticipation. And yes,

[1:33:33] I think it's good to look at the little map satellite field and just look how much

[1:33:39] walking there is in Edmonton and how much of it is used not at all or badly.

[1:33:45] I think there are ways to in a considerate way, reduce the amount of space allocated to

[1:33:51] parking and make this a friendly or city and save a lot of people who have to drive to drive.

[1:33:56] Thank you.

[1:33:57] I will say the rest of my time.

[1:34:00] Thank you. And now we will go to Brian Markley.

[1:34:07] A few weeks ago my mom was dored by a car. She was knocked off her bike and knocked

[1:34:11] unconscious. She is over 70 years old and she is lucky to be alive.

[1:34:16] Be it resolved that the following are factual statements.

[1:34:18] Bike lanes save lives. Bike lanes reduce traffic congestion.

[1:34:23] By moving slower bicycles and congestion roadways or car lanes.

[1:34:27] Bike lanes reduce the need for parking.

[1:34:30] The city has a vision zero plan to eliminate road fatalities which is unachievable without

[1:34:34] bike lanes, refusal to build more bike lanes will cause more fatalities.

[1:34:38] My opinion is that choosing to slow bike lanes as plans should be done with the full knowledge

[1:34:43] and public admission from city council that the city is abandoning vision zero and things

[1:34:47] road fatalities are acceptable and dangerous roads should be tolerated.

[1:34:51] If you do this, you need to tell the people what they are getting.

[1:34:54] There is no getting around that, people will die, people will be injured, you have a simple

[1:34:59] problem here. On one track is a pickup truck on the other as a child. If you pull the switch and stop building bike lanes,

[1:35:05] the truck driver kills the child. The child is run over and blood is on your hands. Is it a moral to pull the switch?

[1:35:12] What if it was your child? What if it was your mother? So why are we doing this? What's the point?

[1:35:18] Because the province might pass legislation might maybe be compliance in advance. That is the worst position to start a negotiation.

[1:35:24] I think we all have learnt that by recent events.

[1:35:28] We live in a democracy, but eminent did not vote for this provincial government.

[1:35:32] They do not represent it.

[1:35:34] We voted for the municipal government, and we have elected three consecutive municipal

[1:35:38] governments on pro-Bike-Lane mandates.

[1:35:41] The majority wants bike lanes and have responded that the lanes improved their community.

[1:35:45] I know they did for me.

[1:35:47] A vocal minority, with a grievance culture, can not be allowed to overturn the elected mandate

[1:35:52] to save lives and improve our city.

[1:35:53] That is your duty to the public good and to the Democratic mandate you were elected under.

[1:35:58] This is at a time when the province hasn't had a premier with two consecutive elections since Ralph Klein.

[1:36:03] We have gone through seven premieres in 13 years. They age like lettuce.

[1:36:07] And we should not allow this unstable regime to write our municipal laws.

[1:36:11] A regime that does not represent the people of Edmonton.

[1:36:13] This is a test case we all know what those some refuse to say it out loud.

[1:36:17] They are using a wedge issue in a manufactured culture word at a virus and expand their authority

[1:36:22] to municipal affairs in order to circumvent our democratic representation.

[1:36:26] What's next?

[1:36:26] Well, they tell us what flags we can fly at, city hall, will they make us take down the

[1:36:30] treaty flag?

[1:36:31] Well, they tell us to remove crosswalks.

[1:36:33] Well, they make us tell us what books we're allowed in our public libraries and higher inspectors

[1:36:39] to tell us which are read, will they decide our zoning and tell us how it's all we can build

[1:36:43] the building?

[1:36:44] Well, they tell us what businesses we can own in which ones we can shop at.

[1:36:47] Yes, it's a slippery slope.

[1:36:48] But some of this has already happened.

[1:36:50] it is also a pattern of behavior. Will you oppose bad decisions which are not back

[1:36:55] the best engineering practices science or the electorate? The cost of a selfish political

[1:37:00] agenda is openly paid in lives. Do not comply in advance and never forget.

[1:37:08] I will email

[1:37:09] you the cut content. Thank you.

[1:37:14] Sorry, I appreciate that. Yes, if anybody has things that they, that's a good point,

[1:37:19] if anybody has things that they didn't get to say in their prepared comments because

[1:37:24] the time was reduced please know you can email the clerk and we will still we will still receive those.

[1:37:30] As well. So, thank you for that, good reminder. And now we go to Elizabeth Fair.

[1:37:38] Thank you to council and committee for allowing me to speak today. There are a number of speakers here today to talk with facts, studies, research and anecdotes.

[1:37:49] About how necessary, safe, bicycle infrastructure is to quality of life, moving people through the city, reducing pollution, and meeting climate change goals.

[1:37:57] I could add my voice to these statements and tell you facts and figures or how I want to ride into my old age and how you really don't want me to risk driving in 10 or 20 years.

[1:38:09] But honestly, I think you already know all this.

[1:38:13] So what I'd like to do today is to remind you of what Timothy Snyder said when he wrote his 20 lessons on tyranny in 2017.

[1:38:21] Emily already read to you the first of four that I want to touch on.

[1:38:26] Lesson number one. Do not obey in advance. I know you don't want to spend money on building something that's being threatened with reversal and removal.

[1:38:37] But we are here to ask you not to obey in advance. Don't teach power what it can do. Make power fight.

[1:38:47] Lesson number 10, believe in truth. You are hearing facts today, results of studies, honest information, scientific rigor, personal truths of how mobility lanes affect safety, mobility, and individual lives.

[1:39:04] There is verifiable truth, and you need to believe in it, and you need to act on it. Lesson number 16, learn from peers in other countries.

[1:39:15] Yes, I do mean Amsterdam and Utrecht and Copenhagen, Paris and Montreal.

[1:39:22] No country or city is going to find a solution by itself and I don't think we need to

[1:39:28] keep trying to reinvent the wheel or the best separated protected infrastructure.

[1:39:34] I think the plans are already out there.

[1:39:37] And finally, my plea to you on the Infrastructure Committee, and to the Council as a whole,

[1:39:45] you who were elected to continue promoting initiatives for our unhealth citizens, to support

[1:39:51] in-film, to support public transit, to keep moving toward vision zero, and you who were elected

[1:39:58] to promote and build out mobility lanes, even, or maybe even especially if that means taking

[1:40:06] way parking, and slowing down traffic, discouraging driving, and therefore making everyone

[1:40:14] including drivers safer.

[1:40:16] My plea to you today is lesson number 20, be as courageous as you can.

[1:40:25] Thank you for your time.

[1:40:27] I see the rest.

[1:40:29] Thank you.

[1:40:31] And the last speaker in this panel is Terry Skidnik.

[1:40:37] I did have a presentation, but it's going to be very modified and rapid-fire.

[1:40:48] Oh, wait, sorry.

[1:40:50] There we go.

[1:40:54] All right, so, hello, everybody, I'm Terry Skidnik, I'm a board member with password

[1:40:58] people.

[1:40:59] I just wanted to, this was a campaign, actually, that's currently underway that was intended

[1:41:04] for the province, but we felt it was important just to share this with admin and city

[1:41:12] council as well.

[1:41:12] So next slide.

[1:41:13] I'm not going to go through this in detail, but I did this one a highlight that we have

[1:41:18] dozens of volunteers from the bike community that have been actively collecting postcards

[1:41:25] or real grassroots campaign where people are able to share how our bike infrastructure contributes

[1:41:32] to the quality of life in Edmonton.

[1:41:36] And so we collected 1500 but 600 were downloaded to form the summary for this report.

[1:41:42] And again, things like safety, mobility, health, affordability,

[1:41:51] we're key areas that we're noted.

[1:41:55] I'm going to go off script here, although from this, though,

[1:41:58] in just again, highlight that we know that we're never

[1:42:04] we're adding and building active infrastructure in our city,

[1:42:08] generates strong opinions and concerns, but public resistance should not be the only measure

[1:42:16] to evaluate infrastructure.

[1:42:18] Major city building initiatives often face opposition at first, but leadership requires

[1:42:23] looking beyond short-term controversy to long-term community benefit.

[1:42:28] Some of the people who signed postcards actually live on byclaims and weren't necessarily

[1:42:32] in favor at first, were more unknown and what's going to happen.

[1:42:37] But their perspective changed when they recognized a lot of value to it.

[1:42:44] It was insightful comments throughout really from this process that we've been collecting.

[1:42:51] You know, a lot of people that support active transportation, but just not in front of their street.

[1:42:58] And we recognize that losing the convenience of parking is a tough one.

[1:43:04] But, you know, the network needs to go somewhere administration has identified some key corridors for this to happen to get people connected to destinations to increase ridership all those things are essential.

[1:43:19] And so we really urge Council to reject any pause on the infrastructure and continue to move forward.

[1:43:37] Certainly, change is not easy in this way and uncomfortable, but Edmonton will need to continue building the city.

[1:43:46] It is planned for, and we can't pause when things just become uncomfortable.

[1:43:54] So thanks for moving forward.

[1:43:56] We hope.

[1:43:58] Thank you.

[1:43:59] And I apologize.

[1:44:00] I misspoke.

[1:44:01] We did miss one one speaker.

[1:44:03] That's also here in person.

[1:44:04] And on this panel.

[1:44:06] Karen being care.

[1:44:07] Karen Beersing.

[1:44:09] He's probably about missing you.

[1:44:10] Sorry.

[1:44:11] Please go ahead with your time.

[1:44:13] Thank you, Council.

[1:44:14] Well, I am here today to request the committee members to vote down this proposed pause on

[1:44:22] bike lanes.

[1:44:23] I started cycling four years ago when this council actually first voted for the original

[1:44:28] infrastructure funding.

[1:44:29] I was convinced by a friend actually that soon it will become very easy to bike around the

[1:44:32] city.

[1:44:33] And four years later I am a year-round cyclist, but I must say that a lot of her infrastructure

[1:44:37] is still lacking.

[1:44:39] Like a lot of stuff that was supposed to be built by the end of this year is still not

[1:44:44] delivered and now we have projects that are going to be running over time into next year

[1:44:47] in some projects if these proposed changes go through that actually won't get delivered

[1:44:51] at all.

[1:44:52] So for those reasons, I ask that you please make cycling safer and easier for everyone in

[1:44:57] the city, especially for young people who are really struggling.

[1:45:00] With affordability, cars, a really expensive insurance is really expensive. So please vote against these proposed changes and ask the admin to fast track the delivery of the remaining infrastructure.

[1:45:11] Having said that, no, I want to highlight why some of the routes that were planned for this year, I'm really excited to see them. For example, semi-9th Street, I have friends who are going to be buying a house in that area soon. They're getting a possession next month, so I'm really excited to go visit them by bike.

[1:45:27] Another reason I really like that in infrastructure is because it's a bi-dressual bike lane

[1:45:32] Bi-dressual bike lanes in the city are some of the best infrastructure. You feel safe on them

[1:45:36] You have a little bit of extra room if you're riding with the young one

[1:45:40] You can kind of ride beside them kind of teach them course them a little bit and it also improved safety

[1:45:45] I know some concerns have been raised around kind of the school area there, but the area in school will be actually getting a shared use path

[1:45:53] And that will help improve with the safety with the drop-offs on the 79th street.

[1:46:00] Then there's also the issue of how should we best use our public space, particularly the street space.

[1:46:06] When I bike through there in that area on Sunday, the day you would expect there to be most number of cars parked,

[1:46:12] because it's a day off.

[1:46:14] I didn't see the parking being used a lot in that area.

[1:46:17] So I think from my observation and I'd buy through that area before as well and I never see that street completely full or anything.

[1:46:25] I think it's a good street to put that bidirectional bike lane on.

[1:46:30] One thing I forgot to mention that particularly when the admin is proposing this bike lane,

[1:46:35] there are also some proposed changes to signalization at the intersections.

[1:46:39] And honestly, I like them because when you provide a safe intersection to cross, where people can't take all sorts of turns.

[1:46:48] For example, if sometimes some intersections don't have a right turn at some intersections.

[1:46:53] That actually makes it safer for cyclists to go through because then you're not dealing with somebody being on their phone and accidentally cutting you off or running into you as you're trying to clear intersection.

[1:47:02] So for that reason, there's lots to be excited about in the current slate of projects that are being proposed for this year.

[1:47:08] So please vote against this proposed pause and make sure that this infrastructure gets implemented this year.

[1:47:15] Thank you.

[1:47:17] Thank you.

[1:47:18] And now, as we do the panel, we've just heard from all the speakers.

[1:47:21] We will go to any questions of any of our speakers from the public by committee or council members.

[1:47:42] I'm not seeing any.

[1:47:44] So we are one last call, yep, okay, and I am ready to move on to panel two then.

[1:47:53] So thank you so much for being here today, please stay, and if you'd like to listen

[1:47:57] to the other panelists or for the discussion, but thank you so much for everybody for being

[1:48:01] here and sharing your thoughts with us,

[1:48:07] okay?

[1:48:07] And I will start to call for panel two, and I did see somebody just a reminder to not use

[1:48:14] raised hand function in the chat online.

[1:48:20] We recognize, we change the agenda. So anybody

[1:48:23] that wasn't here when we called you for just the first panel here, you will be put in

[1:48:30] another panel. So we are going to just try to keep going through, through folks, but you will

[1:48:34] be called again. So don't feel like you've missed your opportunity to speak. If you've joined a

[1:48:39] later and missed your name being called. Okay so now we will move on to calling for

[1:48:46] speakers for panel two and so just the Madam Clerk I just go straight to

[1:48:50] panel two or Councillor Rutherford yes you can start panel two beginning with the

[1:48:56] first speaker. Okay so Kellan Westman are you online? I am. Okay. William

[1:49:08] then Aga and good. Yes, yes, I'm here. Thank you. Thank you. And then we have page

[1:49:19] important.

[1:49:25] Not seen them. Okay, and Mike Hube,

[1:49:36] remote,

[1:49:42] Alice and Macintosh.

[1:49:49] Olivia Minard. Yep, please come down.

[1:49:59] Jacob Krieger,

[1:50:02] remote.

[1:50:06] Jacob are you online?

[1:50:12] Sheila Campbell.

[1:50:16] present.

[1:50:26] And then just keep going through the next one as well. Okay. Sarah Busbee.

[1:50:33] Yep, please come down.

[1:50:40] So I'm just one, two, three, four. Okay, Alex Busbee. Yep,

[1:50:55] Laura.

[1:50:57] Delaw, hey, hi, hi, hi, I really feel bad for how I'm saying these things Laura.

[1:51:08] Keith Hezlinga, Keith Yep,

[1:51:16] Michael rolling off,

[1:51:21] remote,

[1:51:27] Austin Nielsen Penner, yep, please

[1:51:30] come down.

[1:51:33] Brad these in.

[1:51:37] Brad these in. Okay come back to Juliana Weber.

[1:51:50] Kida Hill. Sorry

[1:51:53] did I hear somebody in the audience? Kida? Yeah. Okay thank you. Ben German Frank

[1:52:11] Blake Johnson.

[1:52:15] Here, Blake is online, okay?

[1:52:19] Correct, yes.

[1:52:20] Kristen Constable.

[1:52:23] Go!

[1:52:24] Go!

[1:52:26] Edwin Shale.

[1:52:32] And Theresa Felling. Okay. I'm just going to do a count. Just give me one second.

[1:52:52] Okay. Cameron Smithers.

[1:52:58] Ian Holds.

[1:52:59] Hold a hazzler. Good morning. Good morning. I'm on line. Okay.

[1:53:08] And Marcel, who coolock,

[1:53:15] Tyrell brochure.

[1:53:19] Okay, and that's that'll complete our second panel that's 15 okay and so we will begin I will go back

[1:53:31] and the clerk will keep me on my toes if I missed anybody as she did with the first panel so don't worry if I didn't say it if I missed your name

[1:53:38] we will not get through this panel without having you speak so we will go to

[1:53:43] Kellyanne Westman first.

[1:53:49] Thank you. My name is Kellyanne Westman. I'm a proud

[1:53:51] at Metonian and I'm a resident of Bonnie Dune in Ashley's

[1:53:54] word there. I'm here today to request the counselors to

[1:53:57] strike down any pause on the act of transportation at work

[1:54:01] or cancel cancellation. We definitely need to be

[1:54:05] going there. So my act of transportation history is as a

[1:54:10] cyclist. I've done more than 20 years of year-round

[1:54:15] and that includes our full household, including young children, age 4 and 6, also year round.

[1:54:22] Because of the access of transportation, transportation, our family only needs to have one vehicle

[1:54:27] and it rarely ever gets used.

[1:54:30] And I recognize that the commitment to doing that safely

[1:54:33] and also the challenges with the current structure was large for our family.

[1:54:40] A lot of time and effort was spent to be able to find out a way to do this safely

[1:54:43] including moving to a neighborhood that felt like it was easier to do that.

[1:54:49] And I recognize that not every family has that ability or those options.

[1:54:53] And as a result, they're concluded from the joys that we're experiencing.

[1:54:59] So I've also watched as the active transportation network has expanded that the people in my circle in our social circle have continued to increase

[1:55:09] more and more to become users of act of transportation and experience these choice there's

[1:55:14] a very strong correlation to what we build and how many more people that I have experienced

[1:55:19] over my 20 years enjoying this and getting benefits of it and that goes to more than just

[1:55:24] them. I mean, it's also the rest of the city with less cars on the road, et cetera. Also,

[1:55:30] I'm the president and founder of an organization called Microsoft Alberta. We operate as

[1:55:35] and every week during the school year our volunteers ride to school alongside children and families in

[1:55:41] Lendrum, Muscle End, and Brotherhood Schools, and we're also launching one in the neighborhood of

[1:55:45] Seekord, and Thomas King's Fall, and we have our sights set on many other. I bring this up because

[1:55:51] the only reason that that organization needs to exist is because we've been prioritizing cars on our roads

[1:55:59] for so many decades. It has become unsafe to use a bicycle to get around in the way that we

[1:56:06] used to in my childhood and those older than me and their childhood. We've now reached a point

[1:56:13] where it feels like the only safe way to bring your child to school is to drive them. And that's

[1:56:18] very sad because there's a lot of people that would otherwise do it differently.

[1:56:24] We need this.

[1:56:26] People can get really spicy about bike lanes, but I think we can all agree that what we want is for our kids to get to school safely.

[1:56:34] And I would argue that in most cases that that is not possible in its current state.

[1:56:39] So please continue the transportation expansion.

[1:56:43] Thank you.

[1:56:45] Thank you very much.

[1:56:47] Now we go to William.

[1:56:49] Then, Ian?

[1:56:52] Hi.

[1:56:53] Yeah, my name is Will Van Engen, and I'm also in support of continuing the active transport program.

[1:57:00] I'm on Daddy Beauty right now, so there's going to be potentially another participant here.

[1:57:05] I wanted to provide a bit of an anecdotal experience.

[1:57:10] I used to live downtown in Edmonton, and at that time I'd like every eight of work with a winter summer for spring.

[1:57:20] And as a result of that, my wife and I were able to have only one car which we didn't use that often.

[1:57:25] And affordability is something that everybody is talking about right now.

[1:57:28] Cost of living is high.

[1:57:31] As a result of only having one car, we, I think, feel that the 10 years that we lived there, we would have saved tens of thousands of dollars.

[1:57:38] We subsequently moved to the orphaned and we love our community and our neighborhood here that the infrastructure is not as good.

[1:57:45] I have, I still try to bike as much as I can, but we haven't been able to survive on one vehicle.

[1:57:52] So we have two vehicles now.

[1:57:53] So the issue of having bike lane accessibility is also an affordability question.

[1:58:00] And I think it's important, especially in this, the kind of context right now, economically,

[1:58:06] that people have that option, the ability to bike if they want to, and say,

[1:58:10] considerable amount of money every year. So those are my two cents tonight. I think the

[1:58:15] counselor is further for listening.

[1:58:19] Thank you for being here with your plus one.

[1:58:25] I think it's

[1:58:27] Allison next correct madam chair. That's correct. Hey Allison Macintosh. Hi. My name's Allison and I'm

[1:58:36] organizing with board meeting bikes. I'm in the first I had fun from the 8th street. I bought my

[1:58:41] nearly two years ago, I believe in how it has access to a bike line on 29 by now.

[1:58:44] Instead, the city got rid of my 522 bus, did not replace it with on-demand in my area, and

[1:58:49] there is still no bike line.

[1:58:51] As a year-on cyclist, I can tell you that 79 Street is getting more dangerous.

[1:58:54] It is increased for a bridge that I believe is being spurred by the UCP's agitation, and

[1:58:58] winders that restrict the winglets in the winter.

[1:59:01] This issue is being successfully polarized by the UCP to distract their base from privatizing

[1:59:05] our healthcare and following the land to water at land and water to cold companies and data

[1:59:10] centers. It's so clear to the people in Halloween, but we're going to keep bikes

[1:59:14] drawn up over the past four days. Most of whom support the bike lanes over open to

[1:59:18] learning more if they have design information readily available, which, incidentally, lack

[1:59:22] of available public design information is another limitation that admin is created to

[1:59:28] implement the after-transpiration network expansion with community approval, class, all

[1:59:33] note. The memo that we're speaking about today says the densification and info is a challenge

[1:59:39] to turn neighborhoods, they would be increased with after transportation.

[1:59:43] I'm happy to have the neighbors, but in full benefits to the people who live in those homes

[1:59:46] and the developers who build them, while after transportation, not infrastructure benefits

[1:59:50] the entire neighborhood, including people who are creating, going to school or live in the

[1:59:54] neighborhood.

[1:59:55] There is no right to street parking, and those are best used for transportation, not

[2:00:01] If we're going to keep street parking, we must begin to charge for it to recap the public costs of free street parking.

[2:00:07] This council suffers from a lack of vision, or more, more generously, a low capacity to communicate their vision.

[2:00:14] I have a clear vision for a city that is dense, connected, low-class.

[2:00:18] I know I'm trying to envision with the other speakers most of the other speakers here.

[2:00:21] I'm running a couple of leaders and debtors, but if the council shares that view, they need to back that up with action.

[2:00:27] We all voted for you with a vision for that dense connective world-class city.

[2:00:36] As the public, we can't hold the administration accountable, but you can't, and you have to.

[2:00:41] Council needs to hold admin accountable for implementing the after-transportation network extension.

[2:00:45] In particular, they need to direct admin to tender the contract for starting the United States immediately.

[2:00:49] One of me to you is disproportionately underserved by after transportation infrastructure and by

[2:00:54] this proposed way, particularly the set side in Bonnie, June, Hollywood, forest side,

[2:00:59] having more appellant in other parts of my life.

[2:01:03] I'm all acquainted with UCP Retali, Toyota, and Toyota Station, and I'll note that they often

[2:01:07] build in rates to seek exemptions, but if you're tabling it, but I just say it would prove

[2:01:11] well, city admin delings, seeking that approval in my experience.

[2:01:15] So if this legislation pops this, this committee and council also need to anticipate pushing them immediately to pursue the exemptions of all of the first record.

[2:01:26] Thank you very much.

[2:01:28] And Olivia Minard.

[2:01:33] Thanks for having me. My name is Olivia. I'm also an activist with more than two bikes.

[2:01:38] My day job is I am an operations administrator for youth orchestra program for kids who live in priority neighborhoods.

[2:01:44] Most of the students I work with live in small apartments with several of their family

[2:01:49] members who have limited access to cars, and before I did this work I worked as a school

[2:01:53] teacher at Seencyceilio Junior High School, which is on one 30 second half.

[2:01:56] I remember as I would bike up to one 30 second half in the section that's not complete yet.

[2:02:00] Hards and hoards and crowds of students would stand on the sidewalk that there wouldn't

[2:02:04] be room for them and they would stand in the street.

[2:02:06] So I was very excited to both one 30 second half infrastructure being put in very grateful

[2:02:10] for it, because it allows students not to who are just cycling but students who are walking

[2:02:14] as the vast majority of students who do not have the resources to be driven to school by their parents get to school and safety is for all students.

[2:02:23] A few, about a month and a half ago, when we were at 50th Street, I was interviewed by City TV News, asking about my thoughts about the 50th Street bike lane.

[2:02:31] And the question of the interviewer asked me is, do you believe that Minton has always been a car city and therefore will always be a car city?

[2:02:37] And it's funny because it's a false dichotomy.

[2:02:40] Emoton has not always been a car city.

[2:02:42] We used to be a street car city and before that,

[2:02:44] we were a horse and buggy city.

[2:02:45] And we've made choices to the tune of billions and billions of dollars

[2:02:48] to support being a car city.

[2:02:50] It's always been a choice.

[2:02:52] It's always been a choice.

[2:02:54] And we've chosen to uphold a billion dollar industry

[2:02:57] for cars for wet's sake.

[2:03:00] And not saying the cars are useless.

[2:03:02] But I'm saying that we have prioritized this

[2:03:04] once again to the tune of billions and billions of dollars.

[2:03:07] at the expense of all other infrastructure and all other road users.

[2:03:11] And to me it's very important that we choose now to prioritize safety and to prioritize kids.

[2:03:17] When a kid dies on one of these proposed routes because we didn't build it,

[2:03:21] will you say this was an tragedy that cannot have been prevented or will you stand by your choice and say,

[2:03:26] well, at least we could park in front of our houses.

[2:03:29] I oppose this proposal by administration and disappointed in them in their ability to finish projects on time,

[2:03:34] communicate clearly to shareholders when they were knocking on doors around 79 streets so many

[2:03:39] people were in support of the bike lane, but they had questions like, we're all the school buses

[2:03:43] park, what about these other roads? All things that could be mitigated by clear communication.

[2:03:47] I also think of administration's but council in a tough position when they only give two weeks

[2:03:50] of notice on these construction projects. It does not surprise me that people are shocked by the

[2:03:57] clear change that's coming quicker and so I would hope that they would be more efficient with

[2:04:01] communication. I think that would help a lot with people being open to it. So I am

[2:04:05] pro kids being alive and that's why I'm pro bike land and I'm pro keeping the active

[2:04:10] transport network expansion moving.

[2:04:15] Thank you. Sheila Campbell.

[2:04:27] Hello, I'm just a minute. I'm just turning on my hash.

[2:04:33] Can you hear me?

[2:04:34] We can, yes. Okay, great. So hi. I've lived in the old Stratcona District of

[2:04:40] for 30 years, and if I'm most of my local

[2:04:45] community and my bike year-round for all that time, I was able to use the shared

[2:04:51] use path-level and Saskatchewan Drive to do this reasonably safely from my

[2:04:56] commute to work at the University until I retired, and I always

[2:05:01] mainly laughed that people thought being too cold was a major hazard I faced

[2:05:06] by King and Winner, and it was always cars and ice ruts.

[2:05:12] Having a separate lane for active transportation made you known by King possible, and recently,

[2:05:18] the expanded bike network has made travel safer for many of the routes I used to get around

[2:05:23] Edmonton.

[2:05:25] I'd like to thank the City of Edmonton for making this possible.

[2:05:28] It finally my tax dollars for transportation were going towards something besides endless

[2:05:34] freeways with crumbling infrastructure. We have no realistic hope of ever maintaining.

[2:05:41] I'd also like to put in a plug for the value of the active transportation options

[2:05:46] that we're expanding for healthy living as I've watched my neighbors whose main exercise is

[2:05:52] getting into another vehicle's gradually lose their mobility over the years to the point where

[2:05:58] are basically crippled. That, too, is a choice.

[2:06:04] Not surprisingly, I was disappointed to hear that council is considering holding the expansion

[2:06:09] of this program, presumably in response to the intense backlash in both advice, some of

[2:06:15] their, that were designed decisions. And while the general strategy of building from the

[2:06:26] and guidance on that, many of the specific design choices have baffled me.

[2:06:33] For example, the choice to send the bike route zigzagging down both sides of one of six

[2:06:38] street to accommodate street parking instead of converting one of the lesser used nearby streets

[2:06:45] to one way for cars and a protected chair use-laze.

[2:06:49] And the planners ever written a bicycle in the winter here, not only did that choice

[2:06:54] engage many people who use that route to commute by car, between the south side and the

[2:07:00] university. It also made it very hard to negotiate that bike line and order

[2:07:05] to keep it clean and in-winner. Which then makes it less attractive to use and therefore

[2:07:11] farther for the bike lane haters who complain that they are just the waste of money.

[2:07:17] In my opinion, a lot of grief could have been spared if the city had been more deliberate

[2:07:21] and open in its engagement with the people who have to live with the consequences of these local decisions.

[2:07:30] This speakers have described no more examples. I'm so I won't belabor this point. By sacrificing public consultation

[2:07:39] in favor of speed and rolling just hell, I hope that we can. The three messages up. I apologize. Again,

[2:07:50] as I mentioned before, if there's anything you didn't get to say, due to the shortened time,

[2:07:56] Please feel free to submit to Council and the clerk.

[2:08:00] Thank you.

[2:08:01] And Sarah Busby.

[2:08:05] Please find it.

[2:08:06] Thank you.

[2:08:07] Thank you, Council and Committee.

[2:08:08] I live in Ward, Epico-Colone, Opio-C.

[2:08:11] And I'm a year-round cyclist.

[2:08:13] I co-founded Let's Bike There Yague,

[2:08:15] because four women decided to do something.

[2:08:17] They felt a little bit risky.

[2:08:19] We were biking around Edmonton with our kids.

[2:08:22] The bike network was growing and it made it possible.

[2:08:24] Not everywhere.

[2:08:25] and not for every trip, but enough.

[2:08:28] And we wanted other families to be able to bike too.

[2:08:31] So we started meeting at Playgrounds.

[2:08:33] Families could come and see how other families biking in Edmonton.

[2:08:37] They could test ride cargo bikes.

[2:08:39] The kids play while they add up to talk roads,

[2:08:42] including routes that aren't intuitive because of missing links.

[2:08:45] These are the links that Atme was created to fill.

[2:08:48] We meet in every season.

[2:08:50] And our winter meetups are some of my favorites.

[2:08:52] sledding and hot chocolate and bikes is an unbeatable combination.

[2:08:56] And outside of our meetups, we all use bikes to get around.

[2:09:00] We bike to school, to the library, to doctor's appointments,

[2:09:04] to daycare, to Costco, to work extracurriculars,

[2:09:09] the same places other families drive.

[2:09:12] And something almost magical has happened.

[2:09:14] Our kids are becoming independent.

[2:09:16] They have learned their city and how to navigate it.

[2:09:19] They've learned that they don't need to be driven everywhere.

[2:09:22] Their world is getting bigger.

[2:09:25] And as Edmonton's actor transportation network has expanded,

[2:09:28] more and more families have done the same.

[2:09:30] I want to talk about my youngest for a minute.

[2:09:32] He's here with me today.

[2:09:34] He's just started to ride his pedal bike this in July.

[2:09:37] He's navigating the city under his own power for the first time.

[2:09:41] The same city that he's been through in my cargo bike since he was three months old.

[2:09:46] On the other end, my older kids are starting to ride without me.

[2:09:50] They ride with each other and their friends.

[2:09:54] The network has made that possible.

[2:09:56] And I'm so proud of them, but I'm also terrified.

[2:10:00] My daughter starts junior high next week,

[2:10:02] and it's five kilometers to her designated school.

[2:10:05] Her entire route is shared use paths.

[2:10:08] But she's going to do it alone.

[2:10:10] Crossing slip lanes and driveways on shared use paths.

[2:10:16] And I'm worried about the drivers who come out looking for cars and not bicycles.

[2:10:22] They aren't necessarily reckless.

[2:10:24] They're ordinary drivers navigating a system that has designed in conflict between modes of transportation.

[2:10:30] That's the problem.

[2:10:32] And that's why I'm so nervous about this recommendation.

[2:10:35] The people who benefit most from connected active transportation

[2:10:39] aren't people willing to take a lane in traffic.

[2:10:41] It's kids' writing to school, parents' writing with children, seniors' writing to pickleball,

[2:10:47] families who've discovered that a bicycle can replace their second car, and they're willing

[2:10:52] to try because infrastructure has given them the confidence to do it.

[2:10:58] I'm asking you to look at what has happened as this network has grown, look at the families

[2:11:02] who are using it, and the kids' gaining independence.

[2:11:05] So I ask you to oppose this recommendation.

[2:11:08] Thank you.

[2:11:11] Thank you, and Alex Busbee.

[2:11:15] Hello, my name is Alex and I'm 13-year-old. I want to talk about two specific

[2:11:20] bike lanes that matter to me. The ones on 17, 9, 3, and 50, is street. They're important to me

[2:11:25] because they're let me bike to my grandma's house and she lives in full-time place. My grandma is 75

[2:11:31] and most buyers. She's probably one of my favorite people in the world and I want to be able to

[2:11:35] go see her without having to get my parents to drive me. I'd bike there with my family before. It's about

[2:11:40] five minutes. But the last section may be two or three kilometers. It doesn't have a bike lane.

[2:11:45] And my parents won't let me ride by myself because it's not safe. I could take transit,

[2:11:49] but that takes almost two hours and three transfers. I could go by car, but then I need someone to drive

[2:11:54] me. A protected bike lane on 79th street and another 150th street would connect to the parts of the

[2:12:00] route that are all race safe. I'm asking for bike lanes because I want to be able to get to my

[2:12:04] as I was by myself. I'm 13. I'm old enough to have some independence but I'm not old enough to drive.

[2:12:09] Please, don't delay these two projects. Thank you.

[2:12:15] Thank you. I know that we all love when youth attend.

[2:12:24] Keith, aslinga.

[2:12:26] Hello. Thank you. I'm Keith Hesslinga. I'm here from Bike Edmonton.

[2:12:31] I'd like to start off by thanking the committee members for changing around your meeting schedule so that we could all speak.

[2:12:37] I'd like to also thank all of my fellow cyclists and advocates.

[2:12:41] I did a quick count and there's over 60 of us who came here to talk to you today.

[2:12:45] And I think that's really amazing.

[2:12:48] I've been in this a long time.

[2:12:49] A lot of you recognize my face.

[2:12:51] I certainly recognize yours.

[2:12:54] And I kind of want to bring some of the experiences that I've had.

[2:12:57] Like doing this work to this committee today.

[2:13:01] We've, in by Kevinton, we've done a lot of work with the ATNEE group to

[2:13:04] to advocate for what we've seen and probably one of the saddest things that I've experienced

[2:13:09] is I was talking to Pascal who leads up the department and I was talking about how we

[2:13:16] were trying to change things and her reply was that no matter what she did she was always

[2:13:23] going to upset people or no one would be happy and I thought that was just absolutely hard

[2:13:27] breaking as someone who used to design things and basically like my designs were kind of like

[2:13:32] kids, my kids are more important than my designs, but they were kind of like my kids and when

[2:13:36] someone didn't appreciate them that was heartbreaking in a professional sense. And it's really

[2:13:42] hard for them because they only are looking at people who don't know what it's going to look

[2:13:46] like. I just moved and we moved to a place that has two bike lanes and that was an important

[2:13:52] consideration for us for when we picked our new house. Last week I door knocked on 132nd and it was

[2:14:01] amazing. How few complaints there were. One of my favorite complaints on a hundred and thirty

[2:14:07] second was that the kids that were playing in the front yard were too loud and someone needed

[2:14:12] to close their window. Which like if you if you look on like complaints like love it is on

[2:14:17] the complaint side and if that's all you're collecting that's a downside. But for me I thought

[2:14:22] that was an amazing change with what was happening on a hundred and thirty second. My friends

[2:14:28] have Dornaut on 79th Street and also there's a lot of people who like what's going on.

[2:14:34] We've Dornaut with a lot of you during the election to get a sense of what's going on.

[2:14:38] And I would say that we are in support of this as a whole town, not just cyclists.

[2:14:45] But one last thing I want to say as far as our goals, my members, they can't ride on news stories,

[2:14:52] they can't ride on promises from the city manager, my members can't ride on Instagram

[2:14:57] reals of the counselors. My members own.

[2:15:18] I would like to share the personal economics of bike lanes to me. My family can only afford one vehicle, so I've used my bicycle to get to work for a long time.

[2:15:31] for the last four years in both summer and winter.

[2:15:34] Freeing up a single car has enabled my disabled wife

[2:15:37] to live a more fulfilling life and even take on a part-time job.

[2:15:42] I would not have been able to make the 12-kilometer trip

[2:15:44] to the Celenese EVA plant, which is where I was working

[2:15:48] when I started biking.

[2:15:49] If it had not been for the invention of affordable e-bikes,

[2:15:53] studied tires, which are becoming more well-known now,

[2:15:56] and a sufficient active transport network.

[2:15:57] For me personally, it was a new parent at the time, and it was life-changing to have reliable daily exercise with only an extra 20 minutes in each direction for my commute.

[2:16:08] I saved money on fuel and insurance, but more importantly, my mental health greatly improved.

[2:16:13] And I felt like I was able to have some small impact into making this place a better place to live through reduction of pollution, as well as reducing congestion and demand for fuel.

[2:16:23] Vocal costs of far outpaced inflation, both in terms of the purchase price of cars, as well as the fuel and especially insurance.

[2:16:32] This here my car insurance doubled with no accidents.

[2:16:37] As such, I applaud the rapid deployment that we have seen from the city of Edmonton for the network,

[2:16:42] especially considering the rising popularity of e-scooters which exist in an ambiguous state of regulation in terms of how they're actually operated.

[2:16:50] The fastest way to ease these issues, the tensions that come up from all these different modes is to have that active transportation network built out as quickly as possible.

[2:17:01] I haven't written administration to thank them for their work because I didn't realize that they were getting so much negative feedback.

[2:17:09] But that's why I'm here today to say that Edmonton's progress on accessible mobility is one of the things that makes me proud to live here.

[2:17:16] and it breaks my heart to see provincial interference and social media misinformation driving a wedge into

[2:17:23] something that seems like it should be so common sense. As Albertans, we love to discuss our freedom,

[2:17:29] and that freedom must absolutely extend to the options available to us when it comes to transportation.

[2:17:35] As citizens, we continue to be squeezed on the cost of living, which is only going to continue as the climate gets less predictable.

[2:17:42] and effective active transportation network, it's not a nice to have, but an essential part of

[2:17:49] infrastructure the same as the road network. This is life-saving, life-changing, and economically

[2:17:55] critical work. I'll see you in the last 25 seconds.

[2:18:01] Thank you, Kita Hill. Thank you. I just had one

[2:18:06] slide if we could pull that up for the end of the presentation, but I can get started right away.

[2:18:10] Are you sure we can wait till this slide comes up before we start your time?

[2:18:13] We're just pulling that out of no.

[2:18:15] Good

[2:18:22] morning, everyone. My name is Keita Hill.

[2:18:25] So years ago, on the city of Edmonton Youth Council,

[2:18:28] I shadowed transportation subcommittee meeting.

[2:18:32] Up for debate was whether to increase the active transportation budget to implement the bike plan.

[2:18:37] I spoke about the uplifting beauty of riding 9 kilometers through our river valley every morning.

[2:18:43] I asked that council to make it possible for more adventonians to share such experiences.

[2:18:47] I will never forget Mayor Vendell, pounding his fist on the table and saying, let's get it done.

[2:18:54] This summer, I've seen that dream coming to life. Edmontonians of all ages are writing, rolling, and smiling.

[2:19:01] In the program update, I saw that out of over 1000 recent public comments, scarcely 2% or positive.

[2:19:09] The report notes it is positive is typical for positive feedback to be shared less frequently than concerns.

[2:19:14] I am guilty of that exact silence. In fact, I believe two of the complaints were

[2:19:19] three-one ones that I submitted with some critiques. So I'm here today to

[2:19:23] correct the record. After that council meeting, I moved to Amsterdam, one of the

[2:19:28] great bike capitals. And when it was time to choose a permanent home, I built a

[2:19:33] spreadsheet scoring global cities on housing, nature and transportation

[2:19:37] infrastructure. Edmonton beat them all. I moved back, began a second career as a

[2:19:43] and I use our active transportation network every day.

[2:19:46] It brings me immense pride to be a citizen of this city.

[2:19:50] The question before us is worded delicately, but I will not mince words.

[2:19:54] Existing roads were built for cars.

[2:19:56] The question today is whether to fill the gaps in our fledgling active transportation network

[2:20:00] that occupies a small fraction of our roadways.

[2:20:03] To build a network that offers genuine choice across the city,

[2:20:06] we must fill in the 14 gaps that are tabled for re-evaluation,

[2:20:09] even if this means taking away street parking.

[2:20:13] We do not demand street parking on our urban freeways,

[2:20:15] because we recognize that some corridors must be specialized for movement.

[2:20:20] The backbone of our active transportation network demands the same logic,

[2:20:24] and we must act with conviction to build that backbone.

[2:20:27] However, conviction does not mean a lack of compromise.

[2:20:31] I fully support administration's call for creative design to maximize capacity.

[2:20:35] For example, bicycle-activated signals currently trigger a full pedestrian cycle.

[2:20:41] Shorter bike-specific timings can improve vehicle flow and reduce idling emissions without negative impacts.

[2:20:48] And if we could turn to attachment 1, page 6, we can see over a meter of empty cross section to the right of this temporary bike lane.

[2:20:57] In Amsterdam, bike lanes are primarily marked by red pavement and slight grade differences from the vehicle traveled way.

[2:21:02] Instead of physical dividers that take up precious cross-section, mirrors are also used to provide

[2:21:07] visibility around tight corners. In Edmonton, we have wider roads than many other cities,

[2:21:13] and if we maximize how we use every millimeter, we will build a bike network that matches

[2:21:18] or even surpasses the great bike capitals. Thank you. Thank you. And I will go to Blake Johnson.

[2:21:28] Hi

[2:21:31] there, I have a few slides.

[2:21:33] You have a few slides, is that the slides?

[2:21:38] Great idea, thank you.

[2:21:39] Hi, my name is Blake Johnson, and I'm a year-round cycling urban event.

[2:21:45] I would like to thank the City Administration who created the Bicycle Planet to graduate

[2:21:48] with them on accomplishing many of its construction objectives over the past four years.

[2:21:53] I support City Council and Administration in continuing to accomplish Bicycle and multimobility

[2:21:57] objectives over the next budget cycle, do not pause, state the course.

[2:22:01] In the late 1980s, I was educated by Peter Heppelston, an engineer in the city's transportation

[2:22:06] department about the four ease and building of successful bicycle plan.

[2:22:10] The four ease are engineering, education, enforcement, and enthusiasm.

[2:22:14] Peter was also an enthusiastic and ardent, all-season cyclist and stewardship, but at the

[2:22:19] tip of our scope, all-esties, and SML, and SML.

[2:22:22] When presenting to Council on 2022, I pointed out that there needed to be more focus on education

[2:22:27] and enforcement and encouragement.

[2:22:29] The whole plan is going to be

[2:22:30] Moving forward, I hope that the next case for bicycle infrastructure funding has a more balanced approach with our city elements.

[2:22:38] The city needs to meet people where they bicycle, hoping that people look online is not sufficient.

[2:22:43] The same year, the same year, Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, 1969, I took a battle pusher's course at After Elementary School.

[2:22:51] I loved it. This is not a view of bicycle training, it's still common in Europe, as it lowers risk for cyclists and motorists.

[2:22:57] Now if you're writing e-bikes and other electric mobility devices, and not surprisingly,

[2:23:00] our medical system is seeing you over your increases in accidents.

[2:23:04] This is just one specific example.

[2:23:06] The city needs to educate. Next slide,

[2:23:10] please.

[2:23:10] The city has to work with the image and police service.

[2:23:13] For enforcement, the city has to work with the image and police service.

[2:23:16] And I'll illustrate the penalties for not following the rules on the road and on the paths and trails.

[2:23:20] I work with the police in 1989.

[2:23:22] want to make a free magazine to promote bicycling and attention. In the magazine, I had an

[2:23:27] aerial map of this city and the EPS marked where the people could legally ride. I write almost

[2:23:32] every day into a bigger park with my dog and I talked a lot of park users as I slowly overtake them.

[2:23:37] I know that people do not like it when cyclists in a special e-bikes would pass them at high

[2:23:41] speeds without ringing their bell. What about? To a bigger city, I have a sign of mining river

[2:23:45] use of these goods of legislation by how about a sign about how to use a post the

[2:23:50] part post the rules and guidelines that set the expectations.

[2:23:54] And on enthusiasm, the city of Edmonton has lots of cities and per friends and allies

[2:23:58] of the vice-schools of the city's bicycle plan.

[2:24:00] The city needs to build their network of citizens who want information related to bicycle

[2:24:04] infrastructure like in Huntington, New Roots, and also which are closed for construction.

[2:24:09] There's a political issue on like communication when bicycle issues arise or feedback on planning

[2:24:14] in processes required, the users of this network can quickly give feedback.

[2:24:19] This could help the community engage them as a bicycle plan allies can help their neighbors

[2:24:23] understand the issues or at least be pointed to relevant city resources.

[2:24:28] This city can also help with enthusiasm and education by working better with the bicycle

[2:24:31] industry.

[2:24:32] Bicycle stores have the legally required development like bells and lights that can help

[2:24:37] cyclists understand the need for regular maintenance to comply with the law.

[2:24:41] In conclusion, I urge the city to stay the course, but engage more of the more proactive

[2:24:45] than reactive.

[2:24:47] I continue to invest in an eminent infrastructure, build up generations of work by some

[2:24:50] great bicycle infrastructure.

[2:24:52] Thank you.

[2:24:53] Thank you.

[2:24:54] Yes.

[2:24:54] Sorry.

[2:24:54] Time.

[2:24:55] It seems to stop at the one second and not go to zero, but thank you so much for being here.

[2:25:03] Kristen, Constable.

[2:25:07] Hello.

[2:25:08] My name is Kristen.

[2:25:09] I'm hoping to speak today about our going frustration on the edge.

[2:25:12] of billions of the rollout of the bike lanes on 79th street in the lack of communication and information being provided to us.

[2:25:20] We own a home on the effective route on 79th street in four sites. Back in the fall of 2025, we heard about a possibility of incoming bike lanes.

[2:25:28] I was interested. We reached out to my city counselor, Ashley Salvador, and the active transportation email.

[2:25:34] We wanted more information. At that point, the reply was that they would be engaging with affected homeowners as the plans were being made

[2:25:41] that we would be getting updates. However, this never happened. We listed our home first day

[2:25:46] all in May of this year, promptly after a prospective buyer was actually the one to inform us

[2:25:51] that we were meant to have all of our street parking taken away. They wanted more information

[2:25:56] because they were not going to pursue a purpose for the case. This was the first that we had

[2:26:01] heard about getting two by planes, let alone no parking. I was shocked to look at the correct

[2:26:05] active transportation website, which informed that they were now planning on removing not one,

[2:26:09] but both sides of our parking.

[2:26:12] From flesting our home, there have been news articles and social media posts

[2:26:15] about the upcoming removal of the parking.

[2:26:17] We've had to drop the sell of our price over $60,000 in counting.

[2:26:21] Well, obviously not fully the blame.

[2:26:22] There's uncertainty and lack of information to be provided

[2:26:25] has already proved to detract potential home buyers

[2:26:28] and effect their property value.

[2:26:30] I begin to search for one formation on one to expect the changes.

[2:26:34] What other options that it considered and to ask for the rationale

[2:26:36] to ensign two bike lanes rather than just the one.

[2:26:40] I found my city council office four times since May to request a callback with information

[2:26:44] that was pertinent to us selling our home.

[2:26:47] I emailed three times of July alone.

[2:26:49] I finally received a reply from the correct representative on July 31st,

[2:26:53] sitting there only knew what was publicly available.

[2:26:56] They recommended contacting the mayor's office and the active transportation team,

[2:27:00] which I had already done and received no replies from since May.

[2:27:03] The lack of engagement and transparency was intentional to prevent meaningful conversations on the topic.

[2:27:10] My parents are in their 70s with various health issues, make use of our street parking with free to visit their families.

[2:27:16] Our back alleys are walking in the winter and our treacherous to navigate.

[2:27:20] Other family members were once active and would have loved to cycle to our home.

[2:27:24] Now deal with part of the issues that requires they drive a vehicle.

[2:27:27] Access in the home via the back alley only is not a safe solution for seniors relying on taxier deaths for pickup.

[2:27:32] I acknowledge the many benefits to cycling, however there has to be a way to make cycling a safe option with also being realistic and our community members needing to make use of some street parking.

[2:27:43] Whether it's for guests emergency or deliveries, particularly in our community with increased density for multi-unit infels.

[2:27:49] I'm not against bike events on our road, however making changes that will put the burden on of solely seems unfair.

[2:27:56] Now, since like changes are being enforced with tunnel vision and disregard, can we do one

[2:28:00] by playing an accused of one by playing for community members of the living enforce heights?

[2:28:05] There's been critical information that impacts us that has been withheld.

[2:28:09] We would like you to pause the review.

[2:28:14] Thank you very much.

[2:28:16] And we will now go to Teresa Filling.

[2:28:26] Hello.

[2:28:27] Hello.

[2:28:29] Thanks for having me here today. My name is Teresa Falling. I have been a year-round

[2:28:34] commuter cyclist for my entire adult life. Scycling is my primary and preferred means

[2:28:39] of transport. My husband and I own one car between us. I would like to commend the city of

[2:28:45] Edmonton for an extant network of bike infrastructure. I consider myself very fortunate to

[2:28:51] live in one most bikeable cities in North America. Biking has allowed me to integrate fitness

[2:28:56] into my day-to-day life has saved me tens of thousands of dollars in car-related expenses

[2:29:00] and has significantly reduced my environmental footprint. For this I'm very grateful.

[2:29:06] I can attest that cycling isn't always a breeze and not just because of winter.

[2:29:10] When I bike on the roads as I am legally required to do, I'm yelled at sworn at honked at and

[2:29:15] bullied into the ditch. Drivers become impatient when they're held up by a cyclist on the road

[2:29:19] and many are outright hostile. The fact is it is dangerous to bike in a world design for cars

[2:29:24] and you will feel it if you try it.

[2:29:26] While biking does have its own inherent risks,

[2:29:29] the greatest risk by far is that posed by drivers.

[2:29:32] This is why M&T needs designated protected bike lanes.

[2:29:35] Good bike infrastructure means more than just a painted lane,

[2:29:39] without physical barriers to demarcate where the bike lanes are,

[2:29:42] cars assume bike lanes to be just another car lane.

[2:29:44] You can tell what makes well-designed safe bike infrastructure

[2:29:47] by one metric alone, whether or not families use them.

[2:29:51] Overwhelmingly, parents only feel safe biking

[2:29:53] with their children on protected bike lanes that are segregated from the roads by concrete barriers.

[2:29:58] There is like these also calm traps.

[2:30:07] All this is in alignment with Edmonton's vision zero project, which has the intent of eliminating serious injuries and fatalities on a road by 2032.

[2:30:16] vision zero stipulates that transportation safety measures should include all modes of travel and

[2:30:21] acknowledges that those of us who do not travel in a vehicle are at a greater risk of injury in a collision and are therefore entitled to special measures to ensure that we can travel safely and freely.

[2:30:31] I also want to stress that bike lanes aren't just used by cyclists and e-bike users, but by people on mobility scooters,

[2:30:36] wheelchair users, parents with strollers, joggers and dog walkers.

[2:30:39] bike lanes take pressure off parking demands and reduce traffic congestion.

[2:30:43] When people walk bike or take transit even some of the time, everyone wins, as it means fewer vehicles on the road at once,

[2:30:49] as well as less wear on the roads.

[2:30:51] Bikes emit no emissions, do not add to noise pollution, and do not shed microplastics the way car tires do.

[2:30:56] I also think it is coercive to require each individual citizen to pay and make room for their own personal vehicle,

[2:31:02] just to be able to function in society, especially given the exorbitant cost of car payments made in its fuel parking and insurance.

[2:31:08] Giving people options means giving them freedom.

[2:31:12] Consider all the space and resources dedicated cars and car infrastructure.

[2:31:17] The parking lots overpasses and vast expanse of ugly, heat-absorbing

[2:31:20] asphalt that cooks our city in the summertime.

[2:31:23] I'm running out of time, but I appreciate the bike lanes that we have.

[2:31:28] Please proceed with the active transport network.

[2:31:31] Thank you.

[2:31:32] Thank you.

[2:31:33] And we'll go to Edwin Shale.

[2:31:39] Thank you, Chair. Can you hear me?

[2:31:43] Yes, can, yep.

[2:31:45] Let me just get my notes here.

[2:31:48] All right.

[2:31:49] Madden and Shale.

[2:31:51] I'm actually a driver in a walk, and I think that's important to this conversation.

[2:31:54] I don't bike too often. I got my bike just a couple of years ago, but as a driver,

[2:32:00] these bike lanes are imperative, and we need to keep moving forward.

[2:32:03] The more people who bike in the city, the more space we have on the road for people who need to drive.

[2:32:10] I think as we grow to a bigger city, we have no choice but to pursue with active transportation.

[2:32:16] And it is a culture shift we are trying to get more people to see that biking is a viable option that they have a democratic ability to actually move through this city and an affordable way.

[2:32:27] as it aligns with the council's got principles and creating affordable options for people. I think

[2:32:32] this is the only way for us to proceed for it. I know we talk about children and as much as

[2:32:42] compelling as children, safety and not dying as a good way of making decisions. I think one of the

[2:32:54] for their existing routing, and for their functional recording.

[2:32:59] It's hard, so it's very waste, you know, that's the best way to make it true.

[2:33:03] Great.

[2:33:03] Okay, thank you.

[2:33:04] Sorry.

[2:33:04] Well, we do some of your time there.

[2:33:07] No worries.

[2:33:08] I apologize.

[2:33:09] Can we just go back?

[2:33:10] Yeah.

[2:33:10] As I was saying.

[2:33:12] Give him another 30 seconds.

[2:33:14] I maybe 20 seconds.

[2:33:16] That's fine.

[2:33:20] Yeah, we talk about children and everything, but functionally speaking, regardless

[2:33:24] Because if we had this council, regardless of who's in city administration, bikers of taxpayers

[2:33:29] at the end of the day, and they have a right to the city as well.

[2:33:32] These public roads are public roads, they're not private roads, and I know that we have

[2:33:36] grown accustomed to this courtesy from the city, but the fact of the matter is that we do

[2:33:40] not pay for them.

[2:33:41] We do not own them.

[2:33:42] Those belong to the taxpayers.

[2:33:44] As hard as that is to just, it's part of the culture shift that we need to make.

[2:33:50] But at the end of the day, the real trade-off, I see, when we're talking about adjusting

[2:33:56] or making considerations for future build-out, is that people will still have the vehicles

[2:34:02] who need them, who will make that decision accordingly, and they won't be a luxury.

[2:34:08] And people who want to drive, or people who need to bike and want to bike, can bike and

[2:34:12] around their city. To me, that doesn't really seem like a lose-lose situation. I think everyone

[2:34:18] comes out being the leader, being the winner that they need to be. And finally, to council,

[2:34:24] and what I want to impress upon administration, is this is a culture shift, like I mentioned

[2:34:30] earlier, in the middle of a culture war with the province, but we should not measure ourselves

[2:34:35] by the depths of this province cynicism, cynicism, but the heights of Ementonians, aspirations,

[2:34:40] and Ementonians are proud of the urbanist direction we are taking.

[2:34:45] I see the rest of my time.

[2:34:48] Thank you.

[2:34:49] And sorry about the interruption there.

[2:34:52] And we'll go to Ian Hoesler.

[2:34:56] Good morning, can you hear me?

[2:34:57] Yes, we can.

[2:34:58] Please go ahead.

[2:34:59] Excellent.

[2:35:00] We are back in committee.

[2:35:00] Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today.

[2:35:03] I'm a senior citizen living in Wardle, Damon.

[2:35:06] And someone who's bicycle is there year-round primary mode of

[2:35:10] I recently read the report being present today and was fascinated at the proposal of the cancelled

[2:35:16] time project that would have enhanced the safety and connectivity of the active transportation

[2:35:21] that worked in Hamilton. I have been a bicycle commuter and recreational rider for over 30 years

[2:35:27] and have seen a lot of positive changes over that time to make the infrastructure safer for those

[2:35:32] of us who bike walk and roll. And someone who also owns a car might decision to ride versus drive

[2:35:37] to any destination is first and foremost,

[2:35:40] off the maiden consideration of whether there is a protected

[2:35:43] by croot or shared pathway from majority of land journey.

[2:35:47] And only a connected network

[2:35:49] of active loan infrastructure makes that possible.

[2:35:52] I'd recently interviewed a retiring city staffer

[2:35:54] about their journey as a transportation plan or an eminent.

[2:35:57] For close to 30 years, an asset,

[2:35:59] if there was ever a time that bike lanes were not political,

[2:36:02] then not unsurprisingly, the answer was,

[2:36:05] Well, there's never been a time where this hasn't been a political discussion.

[2:36:10] The formal council, the former council enacted the rapid implementation of key active

[2:36:15] modes infrastructure to better connect the network, knowing that minimal consultation

[2:36:19] would occur, which was a political decision.

[2:36:22] This latest follow-up by the province is mostly a distraction from their other feelings

[2:36:27] as a government, but I would urge the current city council to have the political fortitude

[2:36:31] to move ahead with the infrastructure to support the goals outlined in the city plan, the

[2:36:37] bike plan, vision zero, and climate change plans.

[2:36:41] There's a lot of talk about trade offs when installing bike infrastructure in mature

[2:36:45] neighborhoods, but not in the discussion frequently like the trade offs already conceded

[2:36:49] to our autosentic culture.

[2:36:52] But our children can no longer be safely walk or ride to school, that we have a population

[2:36:57] we're a chronic obesity and associated diseases are on the rise that storage of private

[2:37:02] automobiles on public spaces by some considered a right and that the cost of installing

[2:37:07] and maintaining our rules is spiraling yearly.

[2:37:11] Counselors certainly began to address these issues by improving strategic plans to address

[2:37:15] these challenges and it started to move the needle in many of these areas.

[2:37:19] I would urge you to please reject the administration's proposal to propose changes to the

[2:37:25] 14 roots, enhancing the active transportation network.

[2:37:29] Evan's and should continue.

[2:37:30] Building the safe, connected transportation network council approve, rather than abandoning planned connections and anticipation of provincial legislation that is not even introduced.

[2:37:40] Thank you for your time and consideration. I stand ready to answer any questions.

[2:37:45] Thank you.

[2:37:46] Thank you very much.

[2:37:49] And Marcel, who collect?

[2:38:01] Tyrell Brushu.

[2:38:05] Yes, good morning.

[2:38:05] When I was told a brochure and I live in a quiet way, less than a block from the 102nd Avenue

[2:38:11] bike lane.

[2:38:13] My main transportation option is cycling, but I also want to take transit and drive and I support

[2:38:19] the active transportation network expansion, continuing as planned, or even expedited.

[2:38:25] This investment is a key role on addressing the links in the active transportation network,

[2:38:29] so that users have complete connected and safe routes.

[2:38:32] A few years ago, I was driving my bike on an arterial road, but it will be a teacher-district connector

[2:38:38] after the evidence and bike plan and intimidation guide.

[2:38:41] Well, shoulder checking, I noticed a truck at 7 a.m. behind me.

[2:38:45] I had a brief moment to avoid being hit.

[2:38:48] Although it was only a close call, it was the scariest experience I had on the bike.

[2:38:53] I hope that no one has to go through something similar or worse.

[2:38:57] When we have bike lanes, drivers of vehicles do not have storm moving bicycles, e- Scooters, and other mobility devices in their way.

[2:39:06] And more vulnerable users are separated from large, heavy, fast-moving, potentially distracted or aggressive drivers.

[2:39:14] Fight lanes make things better for anyone that chooses or needs to drive.

[2:39:19] When we have complete connected and safe routes, the type of infrastructure that is being built through the active transportation network expansion,

[2:39:25] We can employ tragedies, make better use of our streets, and keep people safe.

[2:39:32] I also like because it helps me save money, but I recognize that for some of us who

[2:39:35] less of the choice and more of a necessity, a colleague of mine has shared that the price

[2:39:40] of the Ella bus for kids is more than doubled in the past two years, and her family currently

[2:39:46] communicates to school by bike for financial reasons.

[2:39:49] It was going to cost them $210 per month for the Ella bus this year, up from $98 per month

[2:39:55] that it was two years ago.

[2:39:57] So for them, this is a longer choice

[2:39:59] like New Zealand, a affordable transportation option.

[2:40:03] And we know that my plans can be

[2:40:04] a work make things more affordable, or even 20 inch.

[2:40:08] Thank you.

[2:40:08] I see the best of my time.

[2:40:12] Thank you very much.

[2:40:15] And with that, we have concluded panel two.

[2:40:19] And so I will look to my committee members and council colleagues

[2:40:23] if they have any questions for the speakers on this panel.

[2:40:37] I'm not seeing any, so thank you so much again for being here and for sharing your voices

[2:40:42] with us.

[2:40:43] I know we have about 15 minutes and just calling up the next panel would probably take 15 minutes.

[2:40:53] So what I'm going to suggest is I'm just going to look to if there are any speakers.

[2:40:59] let me just look here. Madam clerk, where should I start for this next panel? I'm panel just starting at the top of panel three again.

[2:41:10] It counts the other foot. Starting at the top of panel three means we would be starting with panelist number four.

[2:41:16] Yep. Yes.

[2:41:22] So I'm going to call out all of the potential panelist for panel three.

[2:41:31] However, just because of logistics, if there's anybody in person, I'm going to try to prioritize them, so they don't have to stay around for, for lunch, and they could maybe answer questions remotely.

[2:41:46] Yeah.

[2:41:49] So, Laura, Daly, are you literally, Laura, are you here? It says in person,

[2:42:04] Cameron Peters.

[2:42:07] Okay, can you come down?

[2:42:14] I'm, and Connor Barry. Yep, come on down.

[2:42:21] So those are the only two

[2:42:22] speakers we'll hear from before lunch, but I do want to just highlight the other speakers that

[2:42:28] call right after lunch when we come back at one thirty that would be Laura. As mentioned,

[2:42:34] Michael rolling off, Brad Thieson, Juliana Weber, Benjamin Frank,

[2:42:47] Councillor Rutherford. We also have panelists, Cameron Smithers.

[2:42:52] Is here? He's here. Okay, perfect. So we'll hear from those three. And then we will also

[2:42:57] call out for up to 15. So if you are Jacob DeWang, Carl Parkinson, Alexander Lima, Kelly,

[2:43:10] Gamont, Connor Berry, and Rachel Bembridge should anticipate being called after lunch.

[2:43:18] Okay, so we will go to Cameron first.

[2:43:22] Okay, we will go to, uh, not Cameron Peters.

[2:43:34] Will it be your first?

[2:43:36] Good.

[2:43:37] Well, Dave, Councillors.

[2:43:40] I'm one of between 1% and 5% of the population that is on the Autism Spectrum.

[2:43:49] It depends on your definitions, there's a lot of people who are going through the condition

[2:43:55] I'm diagnosed, but one of the most common elements of that is some form of sensory overload

[2:44:04] in their response to noise.

[2:44:07] I'm incredibly lucky.

[2:44:08] I have been cycling since I was young child along the milk creek.

[2:44:13] I have been isolated from the noise of cars that overwhelms me up until the point where I could start managing it around high school junior high.

[2:44:29] The very nature of the act of transportation expansion has made streets

[2:44:37] commerce. It has made them quieter. It has made them more accessible to folks like me.

[2:44:44] And it has made communities, the places like the University of less stressful.

[2:44:49] But I don't think noise from on a mobile,

[2:44:53] automobiles, is something that only affects people on spectrum.

[2:44:58] So

[2:45:00] Some of the roots that I took, when I was a kid, out to full-term place elementary before that

[2:45:06] were closed down, were on streets like 79th. But I know from my experience on those

[2:45:15] commutes that a little kid, who is not a meter in height, on a bike, needs a parental

[2:45:24] I was lucky in that regard, in that my mother was a teacher at that school.

[2:45:31] But there was a brief period between grades five and seven, where too small for an adult

[2:45:40] bike, but you know, not capable of being supervised.

[2:45:44] A lane-like 79 is a huge deal because it puts kids front and center, it makes them visible,

[2:45:55] it puts them in unexpected places and it means that they won't be in a situation like I was in 2013 where

[2:46:07] From a blind spot, a car peaboned me, sent me flying across a street, and the only reason I am here is a role of the dice that I didn't get a little bit more rotational force, which may have just stacked my neck.

[2:46:30] I think the most important element of this infrastructure is

[2:46:36] avoiding leaving things to chance.

[2:46:40] Thank you for your time.

[2:46:42] Thank you.

[2:46:44] And now we will go to

[2:46:47] Connor Berry.

[2:46:50] Can you hear me?

[2:46:51] Yes.

[2:46:53] All right.

[2:46:53] First I just like the thank you guys for extending your work day till nine.

[2:46:57] That seems pretty rough.

[2:46:59] The first thing I'd like to say is like I could talk about the

[2:47:03] all the advantages of cycling, but I think we've gone through that enough, I'd like to

[2:47:08] reaffirm what Allison Mack and Tau said about how a lot of what we're seeing in terms

[2:47:13] like resistance to bike lanes on like 79, 150 street. Like I don't think it's all just

[2:47:19] like always going to happen. I think a lot of it came down to just like how administration

[2:47:23] managed the roll out of it. Like I was door knocking near 79 street last night and a lot

[2:47:31] people, like there's obviously some people that are entirely opposed, some people that are entirely

[2:47:35] for it, but most people just were a little confused about what exactly was going on on the

[2:47:41] street, where the school buses were going to drop off kids and it wasn't really just opposition

[2:47:46] to the cycling infrastructure. So in that regard, I'd say like a lot of the problems that have

[2:47:53] come up that are leading to this change in strategy could be avoided with a better roll out

[2:47:58] the infrastructure. Then in terms of the provincial government and their plans to remove

[2:48:06] bike lanes or potentially ban them, I'd say that to me it seems a bit short-sighted

[2:48:11] to immediately just cower away before they even rolled out the legislation, because we don't

[2:48:16] know when it's coming out. They said late 2026, but last year they were threatening similar

[2:48:21] legislation as well, and we don't even know what exactly it's going to look like, or if if the

[2:48:28] going through and on carrier with like the legal challenges there if it even is legal.

[2:48:34] So I'd say that because of we shouldn't actually be cutting back on building

[2:48:39] bike infrastructure, we should actually be advancing it while we still have the right to do so.

[2:48:45] All these like bike routes are very critical. There aren't replacements in those areas and I think

[2:48:52] On the whole, we have like a very limited time to build it and we should be building it right now.

[2:49:00] I'm a little surprised that like a lot of these products weren't even tendered and it's August.

[2:49:04] That's quite late into the construction season.

[2:49:06] But the next best time to do it is right now.

[2:49:09] So I'd call on all of you to oppose administration's recommendation and continue with the bike plan as is.

[2:49:16] Thank you. I'll yield the rest of my time.

[2:49:18] Thank you, and then we'll go to Cameron Smithers.

[2:49:23] Hello Counselors, can you hear me?

[2:49:25] Yes.

[2:49:26] I took the original non-confrontational active transportation network

[2:49:32] to get here at the sidewalk.

[2:49:36] Today I'm asking you to reject administrations approach

[2:49:39] to the active transportation network expansion program.

[2:49:44] For Bonnie Dune, this is not a bike lane debate.

[2:49:48] It's about traffic calming, safer crossings and addressing long-standing safety concerns.

[2:49:54] We started collaborating with the city back in 2021 when a child was struck in our community.

[2:50:00] We participated in vision zero street labs to reduce speeding, short-cutting,

[2:50:04] and to make our neighborhood a safer place to walk and roll.

[2:50:08] Those measures were described as partial solutions.

[2:50:12] After several years the city noted this program, as the next step, three new routes planned for Bonnie Bonnie

[2:50:21] Dune in 2026, we waited.

[2:50:25] Now Council is being asked to approve a modified approach.

[2:50:29] However, attachment 5 is explicit.

[2:50:33] Roots that have impact on travel lanes or roots that impact parking will be removed from the expansion program.

[2:50:41] This is more than a modified approach.

[2:50:44] It removes a significant number of planned roots from the current program with no commitment to bring them back.

[2:50:51] What does this mean in practice?

[2:50:52] My niece and nephew live in Fulton. My wife and I sometimes help with child care.

[2:50:58] Bonnie Dune to Fulton is a manageable bike trip if their safe connected route.

[2:51:04] Today, there are high traffic sections and unsafe intersections on 101st Avenue and 50th Street.

[2:51:12] And this in connection doesn't just weaken the network, it can completely eliminate the trip.

[2:51:18] For us, that means we're driving instead.

[2:51:22] In administration points to the financial risk of terminating contracts,

[2:51:26] a future provincial legislation requires it.

[2:51:29] That risk is nearly hypothetical.

[2:51:31] What is not hypothetical is what is proposed here today.

[2:51:35] Plan, bike routes or plan routes will be removed from the program.

[2:51:39] Connections lost and safety issues will be left unresolved.

[2:51:42] We should be careful in locking in a known and immediate loss to avoid an uncertain risk.

[2:51:49] If the province ultimately requires Edmonton to change course, then respond.

[2:51:54] But council should not self impose restrictions before the rules exist.

[2:51:59] I know personally what it's like to have safety infrastructure at stake.

[2:52:03] My uncle was struck and killed by a driver.

[2:52:05] In a place where sidewalks were considered unnecessary.

[2:52:08] That experience makes me weary of unknown safety gaps on resolve.

[2:52:14] In closing, I do not ask communities to wait for years for plan safety improvements

[2:52:20] then remove them at the final hour.

[2:52:22] Please reject the modified approach and honor the commitment to building a safe, connected network.

[2:52:29] Thank you.

[2:52:30] I'm sorry for the loss of your uncle. I think we have time to squeeze in one more speaker, so I'm just going to go in the order of the list.

[2:52:38] So last call for Marcel, I'd for this panel. Marcel, who collect?

[2:52:47] Jacob Duang, are you online?

[2:52:50] Hi, yes, I'm here, actually.

[2:52:52] Okay, please go ahead with your time.

[2:52:56] Thanks. All be really brief. I part of the reason why I live where I do it in Minton's

[2:53:02] because I live near Fort Bicolines, 76th Ave, 10th and 83rd, they allow me to get across

[2:53:10] large parts of the city safely through most of the seasons even though there's a clearance

[2:53:18] issue on 76 and 106. It's still pretty good. But there's still white swaths in the

[2:53:25] city where I just don't feel comfortable biking. I'm really dismayed that we're looking to

[2:53:32] that there was a proposal and then revised a couple of times to cancel or pause some of

[2:53:37] these bike lanes. I'm still not happy with the proposal going forward. I think we need

[2:53:43] to go back to the plan and just continue as necessary without revising anything. In fact,

[2:53:52] would argue that if we know that there's legislation coming forward, what we should be doing

[2:53:57] instead is we should be accelerating the bike plant. Get as many bike lanes in now before the

[2:54:06] UCP government makes it harder or impossible for some of these. We should be putting as many new

[2:54:14] lanes out for tender, as possible building them with as much permanence as possible that makes them

[2:54:20] to remove and that's the way we fight back against this. That's the way we make sure that

[2:54:27] it's harder to make people it's harder to remove these safety measures and that's how I think

[2:54:36] that council should proceed. Thanks, I yield my time.

[2:54:41] Thank you and we're we're we're keeping a good

[2:54:50] that is part of this panel, Karl Parkingson.

[2:54:55] Are you online at this time?

[2:54:58] Yeah, I'm here.

[2:55:00] Okay, please go ahead with your presentation.

[2:55:04] I'm sure you have another presentation.

[2:55:06] You're thinking to it, yeah.

[2:55:08] Yeah.

[2:55:09] I'd like to speak to you today to express my opposition

[2:55:13] to the proposal from administration

[2:55:15] to a new active transportation construction.

[2:55:24] I think we need, as other people said, we need to be honest with what is happening here.

[2:55:29] In fact, this issue is larger than bike lanes.

[2:55:32] There is a concerted, coordinated, and partisan attack on the governing authority of Emmett and City Council,

[2:55:38] occurring by the Alberta government under supporters.

[2:55:41] There's no coincidence that, as patient minister Devin Drupion for a spoke about bike lanes,

[2:55:47] one of a certain councilor who previously ran as a UCD candidate was acting in a lower

[2:55:51] in 2025, nor was it a coincidence that the recent visit by the minister in Caplanos

[2:55:58] organized by a UCD party member.

[2:56:00] There's also a lot of coincidence that a UCD constituency president is the the efforts

[2:56:04] to have the province overturned our zoning by-laws.

[2:56:08] We also need to be honest at what will happen should this proposal be adopted.

[2:56:12] This will not be a pause.

[2:56:13] These projects will be canceled by the province and never built.

[2:56:17] These safety will continue to deteriorate and people who are just trying to get around

[2:56:20] our city safely will be injured and killed.

[2:56:24] I would like to believe that there are enough councillors here who believe in both the safety

[2:56:27] of our streets and the importance of local democracy.

[2:56:30] You do not, in fact, have to cowardly seed your governing authority to the province without

[2:56:35] a fight.

[2:56:35] The province wants to prevent new bike lanes from being built and record existing ones that

[2:56:41] let the globe be on their hands.

[2:56:43] You do not have to surrender in advance.

[2:56:46] Thank you.

[2:56:49] Thank you very much.

[2:56:51] And with that, we are just a few minutes away from our lunch break.

[2:56:56] So we will take our recess now.

[2:56:59] But as I mentioned, we will continue with panel three and on to panel four.

[2:57:03] And again, if you were missed and you were in one of the first panels, we will do a call as a final panel for anybody that was missed in those panels.

[2:57:12] So everybody that wants to will still have an opportunity to speak in the afternoon.

[2:57:17] And we will reconvene at 130.

[2:57:20] So thank you so much. We are in recess for until 130.

[4:29:15] Okay, and I would like to call this meeting back to order. And again, just going to do a roll call of committee members, Councillor Salvador. Good afternoon. Councillor Clark.

[4:29:29] Good afternoon. Councillor Jans.

[4:29:32] Good afternoon.

[4:29:33] Councillor Perquette.

[4:29:37] And then Mayor Nack.

[4:29:41] They might be joining later. And then, again, as mentioned, sorry, I'm having technical issues, so I don't have

[4:29:48] But I know we are, well, not in Chamber, we are joined by many of our Council colleagues listening into this conversation.

[4:29:57] And so we're going to continue with panel three now. I'm just going to re-

[4:30:00] The remainder of the panelist in this panel. And if you're here online, please just say hello. And if you're in person, again, we'll guide you to your seat. So we have about 10 more speakers in this panel to go. Alexander Lima.

[4:30:29] Kelly. Go on.

[4:30:37] Yes, sorry, I'm here. You're here? Okay, that's Kelly. We're Alexander.

[4:30:42] Kelly? Kelly, okay.

[4:30:48] Rachel Bembridge?

[4:30:51] Yep, what? Okay, thank you Renee Weisberg,

[4:31:01] Laura Harding.

[4:31:04] You're out here? Perfect, thank you. Dean Drysdale,

[4:31:17] James Phillips,

[4:31:24] Jason Wang,

[4:31:31] Melissa Stara Oesta.

[4:31:34] here online okay thank you Paul Starosta you're online thank you Paul are you

[4:31:44] are coming in really faint oh okay so when we come back to you we'll just

[4:31:51] check your migraine but I just want to let you hear me now yeah that's way better

[4:31:54] thank you okay and just a nuclear

[4:32:02] yes I'm here about okay perfect thank you

[4:32:11] Okay, and then we're going to circle back to,

[4:32:22] sorry, this one's stuck and then we are

[4:32:25] O-deen drive-stale,

[4:32:32] deen drive-stale,

[4:32:37] okay, and then we are going to circle back to Noah

[4:32:42] Achli Lou,

[4:32:49] David Barry,

[4:32:55] sorry I can't see what that's

[4:32:58] Noah's raised his hand to say he's present. Okay

[4:33:02] So Noah is here. Okay,

[4:33:11] and then so David Barry was the last one I called correct

[4:33:15] and then Dave Sutherland.

[4:33:23] Kevin. We're Tannin.

[4:33:35] How do David's in?

[4:33:39] Yeah, I'm

[4:33:48] in.

[4:33:48] Carly Chen. Yeah.

[4:33:55] Okay. And how many are we at now?

[4:33:58] Madam Clerk. Is it we're at 13? I think if by my count, but I just want to

[4:34:02] check.

[4:34:08] 11. I have 11 including Dean Drystale.

[4:34:17] Yes I'm here. Okay then I'll keep going so

[4:34:22] then it'll be Merlin Chen.

[4:34:29] Sorry didn't Merlin say they were here.

[4:34:36] We did not catch that. Okay.

[4:34:39] And then Paige Porton,

[4:34:47] Mike, Hube,

[4:34:55] Laura Dalai, yeah come to any spot that you would like.

[4:35:00] Just go, just go sit over, and yep,

[4:35:06] Michael rolling on half,

[4:35:13] Brad Fesan,

[4:35:18] Juliana Weber,

[4:35:23] Benjamin Frank,

[4:35:26] and Marseille, who's Sue Lack,

[4:35:31] who's a Lack.

[4:35:33] Okay, so that will be the last call we'll do for all the panels then.

[4:35:39] We've called the names at least a couple of times now, and so we'll continue with this panel and start with the first speaker that I called for this panel, which was Alexander, with David there.

[4:35:56] Kelly, Kelly, go mom. So please go ahead with your time, Kelly.

[4:36:03] Good.

[4:36:04] Hello, my name is Kelly, I've lived most of my life from the Greater Edmonton area, I've been both a driver and a cyclist.

[4:36:11] I've driven in and around Edmonton in two different professional capacities in a private vehicle as a youth support worker and in an ambulance as a primary care permit with AHCMS.

[4:36:21] I also studied urban planning as part of my undergraduate degree, majoring in human geography.

[4:36:26] I'm speaking today and staunch opposition to the attempted rollback of the active transportation

[4:36:32] implementation acceleration program.

[4:36:35] There are a lot of things I could say from the perspective of an urbanist, a health care

[4:36:38] worker, a cyclist, as to why we desperately need proper safe, well-connected, protected infrastructure,

[4:36:43] you know, bike lanes, shared use paths, improved pedestrian crossings, and many more.

[4:36:49] The thing is that all of you, everyone here, already knows the reasons why active transportation

[4:36:53] networks are needed. Council knew this infrastructure was necessary. That's why this plan was carefully

[4:36:58] considered, the funding allocated, everything put into place at the beginning of the budget cycle.

[4:37:04] There seems to be only one reason for this proposed course change, and that is this is

[4:37:08] reading directly from the Council report. Change is the provincial legislation with respect to

[4:37:12] municipal bikeline authority under the Traffic Safety Act are anticipated.

[4:37:18] So my understanding and understanding of my fellow concerned citizens here is that admin is

[4:37:22] attempting to comply in advance with this vexious threat from the provincial government that

[4:37:27] is intended to have a chilling effect on the autonomous distance.

[4:37:30] Citizens of the City of Beventon. I understand municipal powers are legally delegated by the province. However, the real issue here is that we have a provincial government packed with authoritarian to try to insert themselves in city decisions that any reasonable person can say is not their business. The people of the city voted again and again for candidates that would bring them a more walkable, livable, functional, sustainable city and we have a long way to go on that.

[4:37:56] If the provincial government wants to interfere with a democratic will of the people of

[4:38:00] that metin, this should be greatly concerning to everyone.

[4:38:04] The existing plan is not a problem that needs to be fixed.

[4:38:07] The provincial government and specifically the transportation ministry is the problem here.

[4:38:11] So the main message I aim to send a council today is, complying in advance will not appease

[4:38:16] these people.

[4:38:17] These are school yard bullies masquerading as adults.

[4:38:19] If you take a step backward, they will take two steps forward.

[4:38:22] We will not achieve anything by yielding ground before confrontation has even started.

[4:38:27] We will not change anyone's minds by immediately seeding to their rational demands.

[4:38:31] Anyone who is worked or lived with manipulative people can attest to this.

[4:38:36] If Council was elected to fulfill its mandate, I'm asking the admin to do its job,

[4:38:40] but they'll exactly what it promised to build and stand tall against the province.

[4:38:43] Do not pause a single project.

[4:38:45] If the UCP is going to threaten heavy-handed intervention,

[4:38:48] then make this a PR night group.

[4:38:50] then make this a PR nightmare for them. Make the media understand that this is the

[4:38:55] province trying to waste the city's money. Do you not back down? Thank you for your time.

[4:39:03] Thank you very much. And now we go to Rachel Bembridge.

[4:39:10] I get up in the folks.

[4:39:11] I apologize for the earlier intruption, balancing work with trying to try and

[4:39:17] community here and so, you know, not to open up the perennial, due young people even with

[4:39:21] these days to date.

[4:39:23] I'm in the resident of Warden, New York, I am on a car, I drive it up to Jackson for client

[4:39:28] calls, I drive it to friends homes when I have things that aren't too heavy to rent around,

[4:39:33] and I try to use it as my bike as much as I can in the city.

[4:39:36] So when I don't have the drive, I don't want to, you know, even doing this recess over lunch,

[4:39:42] I'd like down to the pen to buy a coffee and along the way, I'd be working and stopping my way through to

[4:39:49] Robert Wooden Beverly for a doctor's appointment.

[4:39:51] So instead of just dropping up the way through, I'm going to actually be contributing to

[4:39:55] a local economy.

[4:39:56] So small business owners, big one.

[4:39:58] And as I think previous speakers have alluded to, or just probably said, you know, you

[4:40:02] have all of another reasons.

[4:40:04] So I'm here to speak to my counselor and the committee to a pound for their position that they

[4:40:10] have been elected on, and they have publicly stated several times that they support.

[4:40:15] So let's get her done.

[4:40:17] So let's tackle the elephant norm, which is obviously the problem.

[4:40:21] So risk management, it obviously is a key property in a project, but risk inversion is what

[4:40:26] kills them.

[4:40:27] So being unwilling to operate a manager risks and try to hide from them, trying to put

[4:40:31] them to comply to somebody that says something mean to you in a private meeting rather

[4:40:34] than sticking with the facts.

[4:40:36] So the provinces that they're trying to do their best to show you how big and secure

[4:40:40] their hemorrhars, they literally made up an entire website just to make it look like a

[4:40:44] scarier and to draw a complaint, so they're literally costing only for negative feedback.

[4:40:49] And they'll find some, they'll find anybody to just put that together.

[4:40:53] So the key factor, though, is that that legislation hasn't even been tabled yet.

[4:40:58] It's nowhere near the floor.

[4:40:59] It hasn't been ascended.

[4:41:01] It hasn't been voted for.

[4:41:02] It literally does not exist.

[4:41:03] It is a specter in the clean of the minister's eye and the officer's eye, where they're

[4:41:08] telling people, hey, you know, come to this box.

[4:41:10] who let me tell you the scary thing where you do that.

[4:41:13] It doesn't exist until it's really been signed off, so why are we wasting my

[4:41:18] taps for money, why are we wasting your money on print of the complying?

[4:41:21] You know, I get it, you know, we're trying to cover a basis that's risk management, but

[4:41:26] I feel like we are really tired and hard into the drop everything and screwed away just

[4:41:31] because somebody said something in a back room during brutal scenarios, I'm not a teasing

[4:41:35] but they've done a gun tour.

[4:41:37] The city received this information as a hint, not a fact.

[4:41:41] So, why are we complying in advance?

[4:41:43] Don't waste my money to do it.

[4:41:45] Make the province stick up their talk to make sure that we actually,

[4:41:50] you know, they have a statement on the work in the world and media.

[4:41:54] So, the administration obviously feels it needs to pivot and pivot now.

[4:41:58] I'm going to assume the best political and engineer.

[4:42:00] I mean, tensions from them.

[4:42:01] And it's an indicator for me, but they don't feel like they're counsel or they're

[4:42:04] management leadership. We'll stand up for them when it comes time to defend these projects.

[4:42:09] The problems come knocking. Everybody rules down here and says, hey, I don't even say

[4:42:12] another, I don't really care. You know, proud batter. Sorry about that. So I really hope that's

[4:42:18] the worst version of it. And I really hope we can depend on our city council and city leadership

[4:42:22] to actually defend these projects. Thank you.

[4:42:28] And now we go to Lauren Harding.

[4:42:39] Lauren, are you still with us?

[4:42:40] So yes, apologies, I'm parenting and trying to participate.

[4:42:50] And that's go ahead.

[4:42:53] Okay, so just a moment, I'm going to call it my notes.

[4:42:56] Okay, yeah, so I am coming today as somebody who lives in King Edward Park.

[4:43:02] I'm also another school age child.

[4:43:05] And I am speaking against the amendment under discussion and in support of the 79th Street by Glenn.

[4:43:16] I could then make perspective as a cyclist or a social scientist or environmentalist.

[4:43:21] Instead, I am speaking from my position as a mother trying to parent in an urban area while living with a disability.

[4:43:32] I'm a third generation of Antonian and I was very enthusiastic about moving to King Edward

[4:43:40] Park because of abilities to participate in active transportation and public transportation

[4:43:46] for myself and for my children.

[4:43:50] The proposed bike lane along Selenice in the United States would enhance the safety of my

[4:43:56] who attend more element for school, it will help them connect safely to the library, the

[4:44:05] pool, playgrounds and parks, and their friends' houses. As a parent, I like the idea of

[4:44:11] the separated bike lane because I do not have to worry as much about their safety as they

[4:44:15] explore their neighborhood as they get older. I want to emphasize that street parking creates

[4:44:22] safety hazard from my children crossing the street is very difficult for them to see around

[4:44:27] her vehicles and for her and her vehicles block drivers with my children.

[4:44:34] I also want to

[4:44:34] speak about my inability to drive. I am a 40-year-old and I have a medical condition and I have

[4:44:43] never had driver's license. Edmonton is a very difficult city to work based and raised children

[4:44:50] without a driver's license. I'm lucky that my husband can drive. However, I sometimes feel like a

[4:45:00] Second class citizen, and not 40 annum, adult in the city, because everything is open. So much infrastructure, so many everyday

[4:45:09] errands that we need to run as parents, as adults, as workers, are centered around obligatory

[4:45:16] car ownership. I'm asking the council to please consider the needs of those of us who can't drive, but

[4:45:24] still want to participate in our communities and travel through the community.

[4:45:30] To me, as a person with a disability, cycling is freedom and gives me independence in a city

[4:45:37] and a culture that was not built from me and I will see the rest of my time.

[4:45:45] Thank you and Dean Drysdale,

[4:45:59] hello

[4:46:06] yes yes it's your turn to speak okay yeah just like to

[4:46:12] start by saying that I live in one of the affected neighborhoods and it's very disappointing

[4:46:18] to see that the city council has made no effort to notify the affected residents, but have

[4:46:27] lobbied the bike user groups to show up in swarms to speak their side, but the residents

[4:46:35] affected have been more or less kept in the dark on this issue.

[4:46:41] In addition to that, you know, it comes down to a fact that everybody seems to think that

[4:46:48] it needs to be bike lanes or no bike lanes, safety or no safety.

[4:46:54] Why can a city council not figure out a way to add bike lanes without removing traffic and parking

[4:47:03] the way other successful cities do it. This seems to be completely ignored by the

[4:47:09] bike community, which I am a part of. You know, they can build bike lanes beside roads.

[4:47:18] They can make do- do- you'll use pathways, so our pedestrians and bikes. We do not need to

[4:47:26] take away infrastructure that is in place that has been paid for. That is already over

[4:47:33] capacity to hand it over to a very tiny minority of users, and, you know, the reports just

[4:47:43] came out that there was around 2.8 million bike trips last year.

[4:47:48] So, it calculates out to about 2.3 users or 2.3 users per Edmontonian per year.

[4:47:59] So, we are going through all of this money and all of this conflict so that people can use this just over two times a year.

[4:48:10] That doesn't make fiscal sense. When we are already a city that is going backwards, raising taxes, removing services, it just doesn't make any sense.

[4:48:22] You know, from the city's own reports, there are around 2.4 million car trips per day, okay?

[4:48:33] So if you sit down and calculate it out, the annual regular bike users equate to 0.3% of total transportation users.

[4:48:46] when you include bike trips, car trips, and LRT trips.

[4:48:52] So why are we pandering to the, and giving special treatment to 0.3% of our population?

[4:49:03] Signed away to give them infrastructure that keeps them safe while also keeping infrastructure for the most use modes of transportation.

[4:49:14] Thank you, and now Melissa Sturista?

[4:49:31] Hi, here, sorry, just give me one second here.

[4:49:43] I'm speaking today as a Hollywood resident who would be directly affected by the anticipated

[4:49:48] 79th Street Road.

[4:49:50] By profession I work in government policy analysis, or much of my work involves assessing risks and trade-offs,

[4:49:56] And evaluating whether decision makers have the information they need to make informed decisions.

[4:50:01] It was from that perspective and that of an impacted resident that I'm reviewing the package today.

[4:50:07] When the package administration acknowledges that engagement was limited,

[4:50:11] and that the bike plan envisioned opportunities for community input during the planning and design of individual routes,

[4:50:17] but that approach was modified to support rapid delivery. That changes important.

[4:50:21] The bike plan established a vision for in that work.

[4:50:25] It did not provide impacted residents with the opportunity to evaluate the specific trade-offs

[4:50:31] or proposed for individual quarters.

[4:50:34] Administration also recognizes that mature neighborhoods are experiencing significant

[4:50:38] cumulative change throughout the development, transportation disruptions,

[4:50:42] and active transportation projects occurring simultaneously.

[4:50:45] And at further acknowledges that parking removal has been the most

[4:50:48] difficult impacts associated with implementation.

[4:50:51] The report suggests that impacted residents may be able to rely on real access parking

[4:50:55] when available or used nearby streets.

[4:50:58] However, this council removed minimum parking requirements for a new development.

[4:51:02] While simultaneously encouraging density in mature neighborhoods, those policy choices may

[4:51:07] each have merit individually, but together they create important questions about future

[4:51:11] curbside demand.

[4:51:13] What I did not find in the materials before committee was evidence of quarters specific

[4:51:17] parking occupancy studies for point roads, a quantified assessment of current and future parking

[4:51:23] demand, or a detailed mitigation strategy to address the combined impacts of increasing density

[4:51:28] and parking removal for bike lane. I'm not suggesting that parking should override

[4:51:33] every other consideration. I'm suggesting that before new projects begin construction,

[4:51:37] that the impact should be clearly understood and supported by evidence. Given the uncertainty

[4:51:42] of anticipated legislation changes, I believe it's responsible to carefully evaluate

[4:51:47] projects that have not yet preceded to avoid unnecessary public expenditures and the environmental

[4:51:52] impacts associated with installing, modifying, and potentially removing infrastructure

[4:51:57] before it's useful life if it has been realized. From a government and policy perspective,

[4:52:03] that approach makes sense. When an organization identifies lessons learned and recommends a revised

[4:52:08] approach, it's justified to apply those lessons learned before proceeding. That is not opposition

[4:52:14] to active transportation, that is good governments, and that is sound decision-making.

[4:52:20] Supporting administration's recommendation does not reject the bike plan,

[4:52:23] and it does not abandon long-term objectives. For those reasons, I respectfully ask committee

[4:52:28] to support administration.

[4:52:30] Thank

[4:52:32] you and now Paul Steroesta.

[4:52:45] Hello, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you fine. Please go ahead.

[4:52:50] That's fine, right here. Okay. Good afternoon council. My name is Paul and I'm an architect with extensive experiences on master plans and multi-modal transit networks across a variety of urban scales from New York City to Halifax all the way to Hungzhou, China.

[4:53:05] Additionally, in my academic research focus on the Netherlands active transportation infrastructure, which is also often considered the gold standard of active transportation.

[4:53:16] I am also directed directly affected by the bike lane on seven-nice street in Hollywood.

[4:53:22] I'm firmly in favor of well-designed bike lanes, however, successful infrastructure requires deep community integration over top-down execution.

[4:53:31] The current 79 street proposal is short-sighted and exposes a stock contradiction in city council's own current planning policies.

[4:53:40] First, consider the policy contradiction regarding parking.

[4:53:43] Just months ago, this council eliminated on-site parking requirements for new developments to encourage density.

[4:53:49] Yet the recommendation before you today suggest that when on-street parking is removed for active transportation,

[4:53:54] Residents can simply use rear access parking on our nearby roadways.

[4:54:00] If in field development continued at the accelerated rate, this council run once,

[4:54:06] what rear access parking will actually be left.

[4:54:11] Furthermore, why are existing?

[4:54:17] Residents expected to rely on rear alleys,

[4:54:21] when new developments are exempt from those same expectations.

[4:54:29] Stripping seven kilometers worth of on-street parking, where these vehicles will go creates a permanency for the majority of people.

[4:54:39] Second, this creates an impossible equation for local accessibility.

[4:54:44] By eliminating both required on-site parking and public on-street parking, you create a direct barrier

[4:54:50] to universal property access. Specifically, three distinct residential blocks along 79

[4:54:56] street in Hollywood, stand over a thousand feet long. Stripping parking away along a thousand

[4:55:01] foot residential stretch effectively turns a friendly neighborhood road into a thoroughfare.

[4:55:07] While some residents have backyard access, for now, this completely cuts off reasonable

[4:55:12] front door access for emergency vehicles, deliveries, utilities, and vulnerable family members

[4:55:17] trying to visit during the winter month.

[4:55:26] Prioritize the wants of able-bodied individuals

[4:55:28] over the fundamental mobility administrations recommended

[4:55:31] recommendation to take a modified approach

[4:55:33] and pause the construction of the plant roads.

[4:55:36] Given the contextual complexities of these bike lanes,

[4:55:39] we must not print seed until a rigorous localized parking

[4:55:41] and traffic studies conducted in all the affected neighborhoods.

[4:55:45] We're all residents that are directly affected are consulted,

[4:55:49] not just to select few, especially alongside nice street.

[4:55:52] Thank you. Thank you and just pulling up the list again. I understand that there's

[4:56:03] a few people that joined but they joined after I did the call so I'm actually just

[4:56:06] going to still continue to go through and then we will do one last call for anybody

[4:56:12] that's here that hasn't had a chance to speak that was registered. So we will go to

[4:56:17] to know one now. I believe that's the next, right?

[4:56:21] Yep. So Noah, are you online?

[4:56:24] Yep. Thank you.

[4:56:26] Please go ahead.

[4:56:29] So here's a private citizen. I am an engineer by training.

[4:56:32] I have a close graduate degree in engineering as well.

[4:56:35] But that's some areas for expertise.

[4:56:37] I'm coming from a personal experience point of view.

[4:56:40] Pilot in the government center neighborhood

[4:56:42] where, unfortunately, we're in the one pocket that's not served by

[4:56:46] there are black links to the north of us, there are black links to the east of us, and then if you go far enough, there are black links to the west of us.

[4:56:52] This is created an interesting situation for my family. I've actually been in contact with the city.

[4:56:57] Our number of cases trying to get black links installed because I have young kids.

[4:57:01] One of whom actually was almost one of whom I've got a car recently, but she was trying to write her bicycle. She calls it being ham sandwiched.

[4:57:08] Unfortunately, this is a regular concern for us. We are seeing increased usage of the sidewalks

[4:57:14] by bicycles because of the lack of infrastructure. There are a lot of vehicles moving around.

[4:57:19] I personally started using my bicycles commute around downtown because I stumbled across the

[4:57:24] one-second app. Bikes are some of those in there. I realized it's more efficient for me to use my

[4:57:29] bike to drop up my daughter at preschool and then proceed to work. I support actually the acceleration

[4:57:36] of this plant. I think it's worth a lot to put the infrastructure in. If a structure is never static,

[4:57:40] It will evolve over time, but where we appear to be heading, is definitely positive I am seeing an increased number of cyclists in my neighborhood of all demographics.

[4:57:51] The long area, unfortunately, we're not seeing a lot of these young people because they're too terrified to write their bikes for them.

[4:57:56] Take on the road, sir, competing with cars, which has a hazard. One of my kids has actually been hit by a car, which resulted in charges against a particular driver.

[4:58:05] The situation we have at the moment is unsafe and then in no way are we encouraging people to use bicycles by doing things like delaying plants or pulling them out.

[4:58:16] I am against the city's administration's recommendation to pause the plan and I think we need to rule forward and realizing that over time and over the decades these things would just have to evolve.

[4:58:25] I see the rest of my time.

[4:58:29] Thank you.

[4:58:30] Thank you.

[4:58:32] Now, just going to the list,

[4:58:41] this is where it gets wonky because I'm now overlapping with my other

[4:58:43] Who's next? Madam chair.

[4:58:46] Chart clerk.

[4:58:47] I'm the chair.

[4:58:48] Oh my gosh.

[4:58:49] We, we called on speaker Hannah Davidson.

[4:58:54] Okay, then I started circling instead. Okay, thank you. Hannah Davidson.

[4:59:01] Yeah, I'm sure.

[4:59:03] Please go ahead.

[4:59:07] Awesome. Awesome. You guys can hear me again? Yes, we can hear you just fine.

[4:59:11] Awesome. Hi, Council. Thanks so much for having me. I'm a Gold Bar resident. I have a picture on this thing here, but I took myself.

[4:59:20] I can hear from Gold Bar to Nate Arthubac. I just wanted to speak a little bit about my experience being a homeowner in this area.

[4:59:28] I'm a young person. I bought my home just two years ago. I was previously living in Vitchie, which is an area pretty well-service by bike lanes and I was able to take a bike lane pretty much from my front door to work.

[4:59:41] I'm completely protected, year-round, I'm really cheap, I don't want to pay $15 a day for parking that late. So I arrived my bike.

[4:59:49] I also solved my code, so my householders able to go from two cars to one because of this

[4:59:54] bike availability and using this we will be able to save a lot of money towards our

[4:59:58] house.

[5:00:00] On the other side of the regime surrendered a go-and-go bar, and a big part of that decision was looking at the city bike plan. So seeing where bike lanes were planned, how they could get me to work, and when they would be, was a big factor in our whole blind decision.

[5:00:14] So, here in the district pictured, the bike rain was supposed to go in in 2026, yet to see

[5:00:21] that happen is that a lot of how outcry about it.

[5:00:25] But I was really hoping to speak today to Council to think about how citizens need to halt,

[5:00:32] pause, stop, roll over for the provincial government, may affect people who really relied on those documents

[5:00:38] to guide huge decisions like buying a home.

[5:00:41] I will too to urge them to reject administrations proposal to hold this and just kind of hope that the

[5:00:49] provincial government will stop like means for them.

[5:00:53] I do think that's a pretty weak proposal to give when we all voted in this last municipal election

[5:01:00] about what we wanted and majority was that the council's were reelected on their bike platforms.

[5:01:06] There's a really strong level of support for bike lanes and safety and pedestrian safety

[5:01:12] in Edmonton.

[5:01:13] We see ourselves drifting further away from vision zero, which is a really bad to see.

[5:01:19] But overall, I think that residents are pushing for more infrastructure that keeps people safe.

[5:01:24] This includes guy in the picture, kids in the stroller and the back.

[5:01:28] Sandwich between the door zone of the car and then oncoming SCV.

[5:01:32] Let's currently not say 150 a street and I'm really looking forward for when the 50 a street

[5:01:38] by thing goes in and I can show that gap of my commute as currently the most unsafe.

[5:01:45] Thank you, I can see the rest of my time.

[5:01:48] Thank you and now I will go to Carly Chen.

[5:01:55] You're kind of, can you try again?

[5:02:01] Hi.

[5:02:02] Hi.

[5:02:02] You're a bit muffled.

[5:02:40] Okay,

[5:02:43] my name is Kylie Chen. I am a huge fan of using city amenities without being killed by driver.

[5:02:49] It's one of my favorite things I love it.

[5:02:51] Protected bike lanes have let me and my child attend school work.

[5:02:56] We've been able to go to summer camps that would otherwise have been able to access,

[5:03:00] able to access swimming lessons, and connect with friends.

[5:03:03] If there's not a safe protected connected route to our destination, it often means that we just can't go.

[5:03:09] And although the city has certainly improved our infrastructure in the past 10 years or so,

[5:03:14] there are so many gaps in the network, which is exactly the problem that this active transportation network expansion plan is trying to address.

[5:03:20] So, city planners have included protected bike lanes in that plan because we know that they

[5:03:26] work to keep everyone, pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers safer if they travel with

[5:03:31] a new city.

[5:03:32] They also work to decrease long-term traffic congestion and save them in Tony's money by providing

[5:03:37] a safe alternative to driving, which is noted in the city's climate implementation priorities

[5:03:42] that I believe you'll see next week.

[5:03:44] Campus already approved the transportation network expansion plan and we deserve to see it completed

[5:03:49] as intended. I ask that we not preemptively eviscerate our own safety infrastructure just

[5:03:55] because the province is threatening to hurt us again. We definitely shouldn't do it because

[5:03:58] we value parking spaces over safe active transportation. Instead, you land in support of our decisions

[5:04:05] as a city. Ask the province why, as fuel costs rise,

[5:04:12] they would want to push the constituents

[5:04:13] away from using one of the cheapest and simplest possible forms of transportation. Ask why they

[5:04:18] feel acceptable to further endanger the lives of Albertans for a cheap shot called your work

[5:04:22] in Mac. Please reject it and it's been proposal. I see the rest of my time.

[5:04:28] Thank you. And now we will go to Laura. Please go ahead.

[5:04:33] Will be right.

[5:04:37] Sorry, I'm not sure you're Mike's on.

[5:04:44] That I can hear it click. Now try.

[5:04:46] My name's Laura. I live in the Hollywood neighborhood, Ward, Meaty.

[5:04:49] I love the Edmonton. I've lived in Cycle here for 45 years.

[5:04:51] I went and driven a car for 16 of those. I've got a really good idea.

[5:04:55] what cycling is like in our city, I've crossed north to south east to west.

[5:04:58] I wrote to Millwoods from Hollywood and all kinds of weather.

[5:05:01] Get to my shopping, cafes, shows, dentists, protests.

[5:05:04] Tell you a lot about the bike pass as well.

[5:05:05] The gravel, the snow piles, where I got hit when I car crossed the bike path.

[5:05:09] I can tell you about the corner I rode by for 20 years.

[5:05:11] My way to work in the very same corner where 13-year-old cyclists

[5:05:14] was recently left for dead.

[5:05:17] I looked at the cycling in the city, sometimes very good in some places,

[5:05:20] and it's improving.

[5:05:21] We've been advocating for this for a very, very long time.

[5:05:23] As some of it got done, I was delighted to find out

[5:05:26] that I was getting a bike path to my own neighborhood

[5:05:28] right around the corner on 79th Street,

[5:05:30] the Missy Connection filled in for me.

[5:05:32] Now we're being dored, number dodging around park cars.

[5:05:34] The kids can get to school and talk.

[5:05:36] The seniors can ride to the senior center,

[5:05:37] and I have a shag window.

[5:05:38] My very good neighbor came around a flyer

[5:05:40] as opposed to the bike lane.

[5:05:41] So I asked, why?

[5:05:42] Because she said, nobody ever rides her bike here.

[5:05:45] Nobody rides in the winter.

[5:05:46] The seniors can't get around.

[5:05:47] They'll take a rare green space.

[5:05:49] Family and friends won't be able to visit.

[5:05:50] And I learned something listening to my neighbor.

[5:05:52] We've created a bit of a monster with some help from the Minister of Transport.

[5:05:56] We've made excuses, pinched pennies, done cycling for infrastructure so very badly.

[5:06:01] We've put people off bike lanes and we're starting to do it again.

[5:06:04] We'll say we'll just modify that idea, pull back a little, paint a line instead of a curb,

[5:06:07] skimp in the signals, and we forget that we're building cities for people.

[5:06:11] And I can hear the chamber of commerce right now.

[5:06:12] This is a car city, always has been always well-being.

[5:06:15] Tell that to the people who've gathered here for thousands of years.

[5:06:18] Tell that to my friend and a wheelchair.

[5:06:19] It just wants an accessible route to the corner store on her own time by herself.

[5:06:23] They can take the train with her dad down to the river valley for bike ride.

[5:06:26] Guy's cycling to work on 34th Street north over the sidewalk ends.

[5:06:29] My granddaughter, she doesn't drive over to visit me because she's 14.

[5:06:32] The cops don't have rights in church or square.

[5:06:34] The sketchy dudes who bring their bikes onto the LRT, the toddlers and their push bikes on the way to the spray park.

[5:06:39] They all have reasons to go around the city and they're right to choice.

[5:06:42] They are us.

[5:06:43] Please move ahead with a plan to stay clean and to respect her, especially on 75th Street.

[5:06:48] Funded on to the transportation they make sense for all of us gives choice to each

[5:06:52] Edmontonian, even the invisible ones.

[5:06:55] Build for people, not cards, not ministers, not property values.

[5:06:59] God let her yesterday from administration.

[5:07:01] He writes, local authorities allocate funding and resources to the projects in their areas

[5:07:05] which best meet their local needs.

[5:07:08] That's on us.

[5:07:09] Right here right now, please make the choice to serve local needs.

[5:07:12] I say the locals need safe, well-fought out transportation choices that bring joy and

[5:07:17] of community. And the kids in Hollywood where they live, they walk to school, they bite to

[5:07:21] can all work, and now they're on their way to Harry and Lee by the train, choices for all

[5:07:25] of us. Thank you.

[5:07:30] Thank you. And now we go to James Phillips.

[5:07:41] Hello.

[5:07:42] Hi. Go ahead with your time, please.

[5:07:45] Okay.

[5:07:48] So, for both of the last year when the, kind of three second, by, by my, right, which ward was it?

[5:07:57] or Denny. Since the 100 second avenue bike claim came controversial, I've been participating

[5:08:04] in a weekly backing town. Bike club where we bike in from new bike trails in the Northeast

[5:08:13] as see how I go. And last week we went from 66th Street to 29th Avenue to Vegefest. And we

[5:08:27] But the bike is still under construction, so you like one or other way to move.

[5:08:33] So one of the criticisms that these bike players, nobody uses them because they're not continuous yet.

[5:08:40] There's gaps,

[5:08:43] we also want to mention.

[5:08:48] Oh, yeah, another combined effort is that cars get stuck behind buses.

[5:08:53] Now there's only one car lane.

[5:08:56] That actually may be a good thing for traffic both perspective because cars are the least

[5:09:00] space-efficient vehicle available in the city.

[5:09:07] So basically nobody takes a bus by choice, it's always faster to go by car, so the cars

[5:09:14] are forced to wait for the bus because more people on the bus which will actually have more

[5:09:19] throughput.

[5:09:25] It's kind of orange-filled by not just bikes, but that'll do your buzzers get stuck in traffic.

[5:09:32] The video with a downstown, some paradox and explains to us that.

[5:09:37] Basically, the pieces of that video is that there's nobody who really died hard to psych this or died hard.

[5:09:44] Card driver or died hard.

[5:09:47] If you want the most efficient way to get where they're going, and the problem with cars is that they take up so much space, no room for everybody to get where they're going.

[5:10:04] And I think it's worth all I have to add.

[5:10:06] Thank you.

[5:10:08] Thank you.

[5:10:10] And now we go to Jason Wang.

[5:10:17] This is running over.

[5:10:27] This is on it.

[5:10:28] Yep.

[5:10:28] Please go ahead.

[5:10:29] Thanks so much.

[5:10:30] Thank you committee.

[5:10:31] Thanks for the opportunity to speak here today.

[5:10:33] I'm here to urge you to build out the active transportation network expansion as planned,

[5:10:38] especially as it is already behind schedule.

[5:10:42] I wanted to tell you about how my family has been impacted by the active transportation networks

[5:10:48] that have already been built as a reason for why we need to keep building quickly.

[5:10:55] My family first moved here in 2000 from China and we could not afford a car.

[5:10:59] But my parents wanted to integrate us into the community and to the city. The first thing we got were bikes to get around

[5:11:06] I fondly remember in the summer of 2001 biking to the heritage festival feeling so welcomed there by the city

[5:11:14] And of course, that's in Horlach Park and we'd like through the Kenner Veeing from

[5:11:18] Britannia Young's field or Britannia Young's town you've been field where we lived

[5:11:23] That trip was only possible because previous councils had prioritized active transportation

[5:11:28] After a few years, we moved to Millwoods where we bought a townhouse.

[5:11:33] I was lucky to live next to a school field, spending my summer days there in the green

[5:11:37] shack program without needing to cross any roads.

[5:11:40] I've parents felt completely safe letting me out the door.

[5:11:43] As I grew older, I'd liked with my friends to the public library in Millwoods for the summer

[5:11:48] reading program, the air conditioning, and to play games on the computer there.

[5:11:52] But when we moved south of the end day to Rutherford, we were suddenly surrounded by asphalt

[5:11:57] and collector roads. My younger brother never had the same opportunities that I did and he turned

[5:12:04] over differently from me. Nowadays as a resident near 76 Avenue, I'm trying to pick because I want

[5:12:12] my future kids to have the same benefits that I did. I'm so happy to see families out on the lanes

[5:12:18] on the active transportation lanes. Seeing kids play out in the front yards where those lanes

[5:12:23] offer protection and security. And those same kids, I love to see running their lemonade stand,

[5:12:30] near those lanes where there is street parking, but I've never seen driver stop to buy

[5:12:36] lemonade. I've only seen cyclists and pedestrians stop for them. My parents moved to Edmonton

[5:12:42] because of economic opportunity, freedom, and to give me a better life. Edmonton has delivered,

[5:12:48] Offering all of these public services and in a connected way has given me, given me, and my family, that freedom and opportunity.

[5:12:59] I want more Edmontonians and all awards to experience that same freedom that I've been privileged to experience.

[5:13:06] And even as a driver now, I feel the same way.

[5:13:10] I want more people to be able to use active transportation.

[5:13:13] And, again, as the report's note, the implementation is already behind schedule.

[5:13:19] Based on some quick analysis that I've done on open data, vehicle lanes, so lane

[5:13:24] clombers have grown by 50% since 2014, and other infrastructure isn't.

[5:13:30] I ask that we not only stick to the plan, but do everything we can to get it done as

[5:13:34] soon as possible.

[5:13:36] It's time to build Edmonton Build.

[5:13:38] Thank you.

[5:13:40] Thank you, and then Justin Wheeler.

[5:13:48] Hello.

[5:13:49] Um, apologies.

[5:13:50] I'm off camera because I'm driving right now.

[5:13:53] With the hands free device.

[5:13:55] Good.

[5:13:56] Um, I'm speaking to you.

[5:13:58] Okay.

[5:13:59] Yes, we can.

[5:14:01] Okay.

[5:14:04] I'm here to speak against the proposal to preemptively obey with a ridiculous proposal from the

[5:14:12] of government's interest rate, the authority of municipal governments, the citizens of

[5:14:18] February, in that attempt, had it in every municipality across the province.

[5:14:24] I agree with a lot of what's been said before, so I'll turn off to repeat it.

[5:14:28] I think a few key points that are maybe new are worth amplifying.

[5:14:33] One, we're lucky to live in a representative democracy.

[5:14:38] We just had a municipal election not too long ago, the bike plan and active transportation plan was a known thing at that time and this council was voted in without known condition.

[5:14:52] So when you think about the feedback of the few including the few that are here today on both sides.

[5:15:00] There's nothing compared to the millions of citizens that voted in the election and elected this council in the context of this plan.

[5:15:11] The second thing I want to share, sorry about the beeping, it's just a personal story.

[5:15:18] So I'm a driver, I'm driving right now. I'm also a biker. This year I had a transplant and after that transplant, I was not allowed to drive for at least three months,

[5:15:30] which meant that almost daily appointments either had to have someone drive you or had to find another way to get to the hospital from our home in Oxford.

[5:15:43] Initially that meant that my wife also had to be on leave from work, not just be on leave from work, so that she could drive me to inform hospital.

[5:15:53] And wait there while I did my various appointments, physio and blood work, etc.

[5:15:57] It was such a relief within about four weeks when I was finally able to switch.

[5:16:03] I wasn't allowed to use a bike yet, but I was allowed to use an electric scooter,

[5:16:08] and because there was a protected bike land, I'd have been recently installed all

[5:16:12] on the 130th Street.

[5:16:14] I was able to safely get myself to the hospital, which meant that my wife could go back

[5:16:18] to work, and I had a lot of my freedom, and I was severely able to compromise.

[5:16:24] So I wasn't safe to be on public transit, so this was a safe way for me to get to

[5:16:29] join from my new partners that really supported my and is already my recovery from my surgery.

[5:16:37] This is just one of many examples of the uses of what we call the day claims.

[5:16:44] It's not just bikes, it's elderly people on mobility devices, it's people on scooters,

[5:16:51] It's kids learning to ride bikes or scoot into school.

[5:16:57] I've seen your kids using them.

[5:16:59] I've seen unhoused people using them.

[5:17:02] I've seen going and coming people who don't afford a car or don't have a license.

[5:17:08] Using bike lanes.

[5:17:10] This is an important part of our infrastructure.

[5:17:14] Thanks.

[5:17:14] Thank you very much.

[5:17:18] And that concludes as any member of committee or council, have any questions for this panel.

[5:17:28] I'm just going to wait to see if there's anybody on the Kate and there's nobody on the list.

[5:17:33] And then I will just before we go to questions of administration.

[5:17:37] I will just do one final.

[5:17:38] Is there anybody in chambers or online present that was registered and is not had an opportunity to speak?

[5:17:47] Okay, hi, Carly, yes?

[5:17:50] Yep, six.

[5:17:52] Merlin.

[5:17:54] Carly's here, okay, and then who?

[5:17:57] Merlin Chen.

[5:17:59] Merlin Chen.

[5:18:01] Merlin Chen, okay, sorry.

[5:18:08] Who's Ray?

[5:18:12] Oh, sorry, that's Renee.

[5:18:14] Renee, why's her gang here now?

[5:18:18] Is that everyone?

[5:18:19] And

[5:18:22] then nobody in chambers.

[5:18:26] Merlin, please go ahead with your time.

[5:18:32] Bike lanes.

[5:18:32] Against administration's recommendation.

[5:18:36] What makes a bike lane?

[5:18:37] Well, that's a very interesting question.

[5:18:40] Bike lanes can sometimes be classified as protected spaces separated from cars using concrete or a painted picture of a bike.

[5:18:48] Which one is better?

[5:18:49] Well, if a driver isn't the one that's concrete to offer his protection, if a driver isn't paying attention, the painted, the protected bike lane will prevent them from dealing too much damage, painted bike shell, however, has no such use.

[5:19:06] If a driver isn't looking where they're going, painting the size of small oven isn't going to help.

[5:19:11] Furthermore, if you look closely, you'll see a single final upside pushed around left, telling people to go on the road.

[5:19:24] Assuming that we're not protected by glace, as you can see in this picture, the closest thing to one is a painting, going on the road will be going into a laying cell with cars.

[5:19:34] Let's know protection.

[5:19:36] Do you want that?

[5:19:37] Going into a space where one wrong move can risk your life?

[5:19:42] Build those protected by claims.

[5:19:46] 2019 survey.

[5:19:48] At this point, you might be asking yourself,

[5:19:50] Why do we need bike lanes?

[5:19:52] They are far more cars than bikes than I've mentioned.

[5:19:55] And that's true.

[5:19:56] So why build bike lanes?

[5:19:58] Because the survey conducted in 2019

[5:20:01] team shows that more than 30% of Edmonton's population would choose to ride a bike if given

[5:20:08] better condition for it.

[5:20:11] The interested but concerned about the orange section in the pie chart represents the people

[5:20:20] who would like to ride a bike under better conditions.

[5:20:23] Again, that's more than 70% of all burden of Edmonton's population.

[5:20:29] 70% whose voices aren't even being heard right now.

[5:20:33] But we can change that.

[5:20:34] Please reject administrations or recommendation.

[5:20:42] Here you go.

[5:20:45] Excuse me.

[5:20:45] Well, I'm glad.

[5:20:46] You're done.

[5:20:47] Thank you, Merlin.

[5:20:48] Sorry for mixing you up with Carly.

[5:20:51] Who already spoke.

[5:20:52] Renee, please go ahead with your time.

[5:20:56] Hi.

[5:20:56] Thank you so much.

[5:20:57] I just want to thank everybody for giving me this time to speak.

[5:21:01] I understand bike lanes are essential.

[5:21:04] I 100% agree with the addition of bike lanes in areas that are high-density, but as someone in the community who lives directly on 79th Street.

[5:21:17] I feel like sick to my stomach just thinking about how my screen, my neighborhood will be negatively affected by this specific project.

[5:21:26] So I'm specifically looking for them to address kind of like the concerns especially within

[5:21:32] Our neighborhood of Hollywood. I bought house my first time home. I was so excited. I love the Edmonton

[5:21:39] I've lived in my whole life and I recently bought a house on 79th Street and after learning about this change that will happen

[5:21:47] I feel just honestly like sick. I feel like I need a mistake

[5:21:52] And I still believe by claims are valuable, but I feel like they should be well thought out and I feel like

[5:21:57] People just need to have a little bit more empathy for people that are going to be negatively affected by the changes.

[5:22:05] So I just want them to reconsider and put a little bit more thought in time into the people within communities.

[5:22:11] For example, like they'll live directly on new paths and how we can make it a little bit more have a little bit more compromise.

[5:22:17] So I do hope that they will just take a look at the plans and put a little bit more thought

[5:22:22] in timing considerations of people that are directly affected.

[5:22:27] So I still think that we should have bike lanes.

[5:22:30] I still think that they're important in the community. I don't think it has to be black or white. I just think a little more consideration in time, into these new, new bike lanes and new routes, just to make it a little like some type of compromise for people that live in the neighborhood. So that's what I'd say. I can see the rest of my time.

[5:22:51] Thank you, that concludes our final speakers, any questions for the two final speakers.

[5:23:00] I'm going to assume none because that's been our.

[5:23:03] So far we haven't had any questions.

[5:23:06] So we will move on now to, first of all, before we move on.

[5:23:12] Thank you everybody for your time, energy,

[5:23:14] be in joining us today and sharing your thoughts on this topic, yeah, it's just I'm on behalf

[5:23:23] of my colleagues. We really appreciate hearing from the public and appreciate everybody

[5:23:27] adjusting their timing so that we could fit in all the speakers today. And Councillor

[5:23:33] Jans, you selected this item, so I will go to you for questions first.

[5:23:37] Administration or this speaker?

[5:23:39] because administration, we're at administration's feet.

[5:23:42] We're asking questions to administration.

[5:23:44] Also, just give them one minute to get to their seats

[5:23:46] before you start your questions.

[5:23:48] But yes, we are on questions of administration.

[5:23:52] Now, on this report.

[5:24:04] To be honest, I'm happy to defer.

[5:24:07] I don't have any questions right now.

[5:24:09] I'm really interested in the subsequent motions.

[5:24:16] Okay, and for the record, I'm not going to entertain

[5:24:18] as the chair any subsequent motions until we get through the agenda.

[5:24:22] So, there can be a primary motion on this item, and then we will switch to, then we will go to the next items on our agenda because there are

[5:24:31] speakers that have impatiently waiting on those items as well.

[5:24:34] And when we finish our agenda, we can either come back to subsequent, or they can be made as notices of motion, so that we can actually get through today.

[5:24:41] So I just want to be clear that there won't be any subsequent debates until the end of the agenda, so we can get through.

[5:24:48] So, I will go to Councilor Salvador then.

[5:24:53] And just to the chair, I do have a motion.

[5:24:56] Do you want to get your questions first?

[5:24:57] Or can I put that on the board?

[5:24:58] It's committees, so you can put the motion on the floor

[5:25:00] and then people can ask general questions about the report

[5:25:03] or questions about your motion.

[5:25:06] Please go ahead.

[5:25:08] I'll move the administration, continue implementation

[5:25:10] of the Act of Transportation Network Expansion Program

[5:25:12] in accordance with the previously approved scope

[5:25:14] of Capital Profile CM-20-03300.

[5:25:20] Point two, immediately advanced procurement for all tender ready routes as identified in

[5:25:25] attachment three of the August 2026-26-2026 infrastructure services report IS-0368 and maximize

[5:25:34] remaining construction season, including advancing partial and accelerated construction, and

[5:25:40] where construction cannot proceed in 2026 complete all design work and ensure procurement readiness in advance of the 2027 construction season scheduling construction for the earliest feasible opportunity in 2026.

[5:25:57] Thank you would you like to introduce your motion please.

[5:26:00] Yes, thank you.

[5:26:04] First, thank you to all the speakers for being here today.

[5:26:06] I really appreciate hearing everyone's perspectives and I just want to speak about the intention behind this motion.

[5:26:10] So the intention here is to continue building out our bike network as planned and to not move forward with administration's proposal, the intention is to stay the course.

[5:26:20] It provides direction to immediately advance procurement and construction of all routes that are tender ready.

[5:26:27] And I've included language around including advancing partial construction so that we can go as late as the season will allow.

[5:26:34] In instances where construction can't proceed this season, the motion also ensures that we're ready to go with the design work and

[5:26:42] tenders so that we can get those out at the earliest possible opportunity in the spring so that we're not facing late season tenders.

[5:26:53] Yeah, you know, I'm reflecting on how we, how we got to this point and just reflecting around how I think that

[5:27:02] Council has been clear and it's desire to continue implementing our bike plan.

[5:27:07] I'm feeling frustrated that we're here today.

[5:27:10] As we have consistently defended the bill though,

[5:27:13] to our active transportation network at multiple intervals,

[5:27:16] and I do feel that the proposed approach

[5:27:18] from administration represents a significant departure

[5:27:21] from previous council direction.

[5:27:23] Of course there are localized questions or challenges that can come up,

[5:27:27] but the proposed approach in front of us would effectively

[5:27:30] install out numerous critical projects that have been in the works for years, including many

[5:27:36] critical routes in Wardmateri that I know community members have been waiting for for a very

[5:27:41] long time. Y'all have more to say I'm running out of time here but again I want to ensure that

[5:27:50] we are maintaining our momentum on building out a complete and connected network for all the

[5:27:54] reasons that we've heard from our speakers today and more very happy to take questions on this.

[5:27:58] I will have a subsequent that speaks about bringing back funding options to ensure that this work is well supported going forward.

[5:28:07] Thank you.

[5:28:09] I do have questions on the motion on the floor, so I'll take my turn.

[5:28:16] I just took administration.

[5:28:17] If you look at this motion and point number one to be clear, that means that what you are being directed to do is continue with the acceleration as the option was

[5:28:29] to debate that budget, which means limited engagement, it means no modifying of those plans,

[5:28:35] and it means going forth with what you've already recommended. Do you understand it the same way?

[5:28:42] Yes, we do. And to the to the to the moveers at your attention.

[5:28:48] Because. And if I go looking for it. Yeah, and just to add to that. So in in reference to point one,

[5:28:58] my expectation would be if we look at the attachment three basically all of the routes that are

[5:29:04] listed in there would be would be included and that's also touched on it will it too too.

[5:29:10] Yeah I'm kind of just going through them because I think there's been

[5:29:17] while there's been

[5:29:19] collective council direction I I worry that there's been individual projects where there's been

[5:29:27] pressure to change or adapt or divert from that council direction, which like I understand

[5:29:32] the frustration for why we're here, but I also understand how we got here.

[5:29:37] So I want to make it clear that whatever decision we come forward for today that administration

[5:29:45] is empowered to do that and then also say no to any individual counselors or project modifications.

[5:29:54] That is my expectation and intention.

[5:29:57] Okay.

[5:30:00] I

[5:30:03] am a bit concerned about point two. It's the one that makes me the most concerned, just having worked for administration and understanding how long tendering can take.

[5:30:15] Is this doable? Is point two doable? And what would that look like? Because if you put a detender, don't you have to give a certain amount of time by legislation for receiving her proposals?

[5:30:29] Correct, Councilor Rutherford, and just as a bit of context to this, the approach that

[5:30:34] administration has taken to the tenoring of this work has been bundling it, recognizing

[5:30:39] that the scope of work in independent locations is not large enough to generate a strong

[5:30:46] market response.

[5:30:47] We generally bundle locations in two packages.

[5:30:51] So in this year we had four bundles planned with the work that was planned with locations.

[5:30:57] The last bundle that remains is the one that is listed in the attachment three with a number

[5:31:03] of those locations and that one whether we tendered it today, tomorrow three months from now.

[5:31:09] Like effectively what we're at is a 2027 construction schedule and the reason for that.

[5:31:14] Okay, I'm sorry I'm out of time but I will come back from other outages.

[5:31:17] We were very diligent with our speakers.

[5:31:19] I want to be diligent with us as well including myself.

[5:31:23] Councillor Stevenson.

[5:31:26] You think you may be just a bit of context and say four bundles that were stated for this year.

[5:31:32] Won't it be other three go to tender?

[5:31:36] Just a second here.

[5:31:38] I don't know that I have all the dates exactly.

[5:31:46] Bundle one and two were probably around May, June.

[5:31:50] Bundle three was just awarded in August and are sorry, bundle four.

[5:31:58] in August, and Bundle 3 is the one that still remains.

[5:32:03] But I'm just wondering, um, again, recognizing that construction season, why do not

[5:32:08] offer that still move into it?

[5:32:11] And I think this is in recognition of the work that we're trying to do to accelerate this,

[5:32:16] and it's we're basically taking a just-in-time approach.

[5:32:19] So effectively, as soon as the tender plans are ready, we package it, we bundle it,

[5:32:23] put it on the street as quickly as we possibly can.

[5:32:25] And that's been the process since this funding program was approved by Council.

[5:32:33] We've been effectively kind of working through this in real time or just in time delivery.

[5:32:38] And as soon as the plans are done, we put it on the street as soon as we can.

[5:32:42] Most of the tenders up until this point have generally been a little bit later in the year.

[5:32:46] And I'm talking like Mayor June.

[5:32:50] Unfortunately, this year we came a little bit as the scope of the work has been described

[5:32:55] as becoming a little bit more detailed and more tricky.

[5:32:59] Some of the details have taken a little bit longer to finalize.

[5:33:07] When both of the designs complete for adults,

[5:33:13] I believe I don't have a date in mind,

[5:33:16] but probably sometimes mid-July.

[5:33:22] I think the question is a sort of why, well, I guess it's a way there, but I think the question is a sort of why.

[5:33:26] Well, if it's a way there, then the lack of consideration for that.

[5:33:29] But maybe I'll just move on.

[5:33:31] So you just need to speak to the chair.

[5:33:32] Do you want questions on the motion or will we ask the questions of the report?

[5:33:36] You can ask questions on either the motion or broader on the report.

[5:33:41] Please go ahead.

[5:33:43] Okay, thank you.

[5:33:44] And you know, just a few of the data that is included in the report, which is curious

[5:33:49] of how it is that it's a little bit more than that I've met.

[5:33:53] And the origins of captures over the watershed numbers.

[5:33:59] And it sees a policy on this aspect.

[5:34:03] So I'm just going to include some of the watershed numbers.

[5:34:12] We look at the number of waters in the increased watershed over the past five years.

[5:34:19] Councillor Stevenson. It was not included in the report.

[5:34:25] Thank you.

[5:34:28] Thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

[5:34:30] Councillor Clark. Great. Thank you. Just for clarity's sake. When I'm looking at attachment 3.

[5:34:38] For tender ready, do you want to let me know exactly?

[5:34:42] Yeah, I was going to go through this as well. So my expectation is it would be someone

[5:34:50] page, page two, 64 Street, 79 Street, 85 Street, 88 Avenue, 89, 93rd, those roots that are listed

[5:35:04] as originally scheduled for construction in 2026, while they can be tendered, installation

[5:35:09] 2026 no longer viable, lazy's and tender. Those are the ones that I understand from administration

[5:35:15] are ready to go on tendering.

[5:35:21] And just with the feedback that we just got from Jason there.

[5:35:25] So if this construction is highly unlikely this year,

[5:35:27] you still want to proceed with this motion regardless.

[5:35:31] Yeah, and I'll have questions around what that can look like.

[5:35:35] And I understand that this is late season.

[5:35:38] I also understand that the infrastructure is adaptable.

[5:35:43] Is there a path forward where we are at least

[5:35:46] getting going. On a number of these roots, I think about even in past years, there's a number

[5:35:52] of roots that I know of where we didn't quite finish construction within the season and

[5:35:58] the roots weren't quite open, but we were at least in there getting it done and they were

[5:36:02] ready to go for the spring. So that would be my intention.

[5:36:07] Yeah, I kind of worry about like the construction project being started and not being finished

[5:36:12] in the disruptions I would have in the community which then might have to be changed anyways

[5:36:16] is in 2020, 7, right?

[5:36:19] The sort of might just thoughts on that,

[5:36:21] I guess not really a question.

[5:36:23] On it.

[5:36:23] But my other question just goes,

[5:36:25] because there's a whole bunch of design work as well.

[5:36:28] So are you thinking that this design work

[5:36:30] is going to be as stated already into our pipeline

[5:36:34] or are we going to, is there also another version

[5:36:37] potentially with some changes coming as well?

[5:36:39] Would it be the two different kind of design works?

[5:36:41] How do you know?

[5:36:41] So my intention with .3 is, so the roots that are not tender ready, that would be pushed

[5:36:49] into 2027, that are either, you know, not feasible to tender or need additional design

[5:36:54] work to get ready for tender. Those are the ones I'm referencing. So in the report in attachment

[5:37:00] 3, that would be the section of 2027 and then the other roots that are listed on the final page

[5:37:07] attach with three.

[5:37:11] Okay, and that's from the recommendation, man. I mean, some of that

[5:37:14] desire that kind of goes into what the recommendation would have had already, right?

[5:37:19] But now you want to know what specific this is. But the important clarity is that I am not

[5:37:23] comfortable moving forward with the proposed approach that administration has put forward,

[5:37:28] that provides greater weight to retention.

[5:37:30] Question of parking, and travel lanes. Like that approach fundamentally shifts what council is previously directed.

[5:37:41] Thank you.

[5:37:43] Yep. Councillor Salvatore.

[5:37:47] Yeah, I just wanted to loop back to the questions. Councillor Stevenson was asking around bundle 3.

[5:37:55] And just so I'm being crystal clear as well. I'm correct in understanding that those are the roots listed in

[5:38:02] attachment three page two. Correct. Okay. Okay. And those were complete. It sounds like

[5:38:10] mid-midjuly-ish. Yeah, I don't have it exact dates, apologies, but it was about the time that

[5:38:16] this report plan was coming together and this report for council. So were those ones was

[5:38:22] bundle three, we held off on that in anticipation. No, no, no, no. Yeah, okay. I'll just

[5:38:30] that jump in Council of Salvador.

[5:38:32] So for clarity, what happened was Bundle 4,

[5:38:36] included the 50th Street Project.

[5:38:38] And so following Council's motion to change the design

[5:38:41] on 50th Street, we had to go back urgently to Bundle 4

[5:38:45] to modify the contracts and to ensure

[5:38:48] that the contractor could move forward with that Bundle

[5:38:51] that had been already tendered.

[5:38:54] And so we shift our focus there to ensure

[5:38:57] that that Bundle can move forward.

[5:38:58] and then by the time we got back to bundle three,

[5:39:02] we are where we are at this time.

[5:39:04] And so for clarity, we did not pause any work.

[5:39:06] We just had some resources that needed to be realigned

[5:39:09] to ensure that we continue to advance the work.

[5:39:12] So the mid-July date for bundle three,

[5:39:17] like I'm still understanding why that wasn't out.

[5:39:20] So the designs were ready, but the tender package was not.

[5:39:26] So there's just another step after the designs

[5:39:28] completed to put the package together and then that was what was delayed by the fact that

[5:39:35] we had to go back to the tender package for to clarify with the contractor how we were moving

[5:39:41] forward with 50th Street. Okay. The apologies I didn't get the answer. It comes with a reference

[5:39:45] question on that but effectively there are a number of steps required to bring this back to market

[5:39:50] to get solicit pricing. So generally one step is getting the drawings ready then you have to assemble

[5:39:56] the bundles and as Pascal just described, we're shifting locations back and forth based on

[5:40:01] what's ready and then from that we have to create specific tender documents that then go out

[5:40:06] to market on various kind of procurement channels and then so that can sometimes take two to three

[5:40:12] weeks for that step to happen. Then it has to have go on the active online procurement channels

[5:40:19] that we have with APC, Merx, different public purchasing connections. That has to fall

[5:40:25] trade agreements which can take four or five weeks as well.

[5:40:28] Then we have to award it, that can take another one or two weeks after we've evaluated

[5:40:31] the bids.

[5:40:32] Then we have to schedule a pre-construction meeting, which is again another two to three weeks,

[5:40:38] then we get our scheduled from the contractor, and that's why sometimes it can take two

[5:40:41] to three months from the start of a tender for when you can might anticipate construction

[5:40:47] to even start.

[5:40:47] Okay, I'll met at the time, but I'll come back for questions around partial construction.

[5:40:53] Thank you, Councillor Salvador.

[5:40:57] I think also something that we have to address is I think that there's been a lot of

[5:41:02] staff resources of the active transportation team in responding to emails and responding

[5:41:09] to three one one inquiries and responding to Councillor inquiries.

[5:41:14] That has also, instead of being able to sometimes do, is it fair to say that that's also taken away.

[5:41:20] you're only so many people. And so when you have your capacity going to these things, it can't go to other things.

[5:41:26] Is that a factor in my over-generalizing?

[5:41:30] It has definitely been a factor counts throughout the year.

[5:41:32] We've seen increases year over year of 500 percent in queries received.

[5:41:37] I think in 2026 to date we are at over 600 in queries on active transportation program alone.

[5:41:48] And so, and we are dedicated to responding to

[5:41:51] mintoniums on their questions and their inquiries.

[5:41:54] And so that takes a lot of time.

[5:41:55] And yes, we do have a team that specializes in this work.

[5:41:59] And so, it's important that be them communicating

[5:42:02] with them and toniums around their questions.

[5:42:04] And so, does that just take a lot of resources?

[5:42:07] And Sarah, are you feeling really, like, insightful again?

[5:42:10] It's like, the question of why are we here?

[5:42:13] But this kind of feedback, some of the context changing,

[5:42:16] And for my understanding,

[5:42:21] you just wanted to make sure that the council was ready to

[5:42:26] withstand that storm, that you could sort of see brewing in some spaces.

[5:42:31] Yes.

[5:42:32] And so I think I see myself, my background, I have a master's in public administration,

[5:42:39] I'm a public servant.

[5:42:40] My job is to provide my best advice to council and take direction from council.

[5:42:44] But there are times when information starts to come and we are astute enough to say the context is changing and we want to bring it back to council to confirm the direction of council and make sure that we're providing our best advice.

[5:42:59] We of course will always implement the direction of council.

[5:43:03] Absolutely. And what about the grovener one? Because why is that one on the redesign list?

[5:43:13] When I understood that one was already tendered and based on what's in this motion, you should not be redesigning grovener.

[5:43:20] I want to be clear on that.

[5:43:24] So if you have a question,

[5:43:26] Grovener is not getting redesigned.

[5:43:28] It is designed.

[5:43:29] It was supposed, we will go back to that design that is incorrect.

[5:43:32] We're not going to go do redo design work on those ones.

[5:43:36] And to be clear, the design for Grovener is one of our least invasive treatments within a neighborhood

[5:43:42] that still can be done.

[5:43:42] But we did stop construction on that one.

[5:43:46] And to do some modifications.

[5:43:49] And so I want to be clear on what we're deciding today,

[5:43:51] we will just go back to that original design.

[5:43:54] Yes, okay.

[5:43:56] Councillor Stevenson?

[5:44:00] Thank you.

[5:44:01] I guess I just wanted to just

[5:44:07] understand a little bit more, again, you know, recognizing

[5:44:10] that there was a shift in some of the pattern of feedback that the administration is

[5:44:15] receiving.

[5:44:16] Just wondering why that was the only metric that the administration considered.

[5:44:23] Again, I think we heard a range of receptors from swikers to the English level of playgays is fully reflected in what the public is suggesting.

[5:44:33] And then again, just a few of the ridership members.

[5:44:37] Just one of my most recent thinking about that.

[5:44:40] People voting with their wheels, so we speak.

[5:44:53] I don't think it's only the negative feedback or the feedback from the public that we got.

[5:44:58] It's come from multiple areas. I think there was an issue.

[5:45:00] Not only from the public reaction to some of the implementations that we have, the provincial reaction to that, and our own council reaction.

[5:45:09] So I think there's threefold we're taking into account on some of the challenges that we put in.

[5:45:14] I think when you experience, I mean, I think the initial phases of the implementation plan took into account that we're going to do the easy things first.

[5:45:23] we knew the harder things were coming next.

[5:45:26] And just like any project you go through, you know, re-evaluating that throughout the project

[5:45:31] does make sense in some cases and we felt that this is one of those times that we should

[5:45:36] check in.

[5:45:37] I think in a lot of it was really built on on three different avenues of feedback, but the

[5:45:43] experience that we have when we started building tangible things in community and the impact

[5:45:48] that that has to clarify that that direction is is still valid.

[5:45:53] Yeah, and I think I think the check-in point is very valid and the main point, I don't

[5:45:57] feel that we have all the information that we need to be checking in.

[5:46:00] We don't have information on, I mean, I haven't seen them in a survey.

[5:46:05] I can be the, and maybe there is, I don't know, called being reference in there.

[5:46:10] But again, we know as organizations, I think we know, you know, work that it is to

[5:46:16] people who are unhappy with something a little more likely to reach out. It just concerns me that

[5:46:22] the leader in the bus report is focused on about one mechanism, rather than an opportunity

[5:46:27] to have a little bit. This is an important task. This is a touch point in the

[5:46:33] administration of a shift in the action.

[5:46:39] Is there a question there at California Stevenson?

[5:46:43] Yeah, so again, the question remains is, you know, why wasn't that data included?

[5:46:47] I

[5:46:52] think we've been very clear that administration is fully supporting the implementation of the bike plan as part of City plan and

[5:47:00] that we relate to the information that was provided in those documents.

[5:47:08] Thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

[5:47:11] Councillor Salvador.

[5:47:12] Yeah, thank you.

[5:47:14] I just wanted to make sure there's a shared understanding around what

[5:47:19] What bullet to would mean around maximizing remaining construction season and advancing partial or accelerated construction?

[5:47:30] How does administration interpret that piece?

[5:47:33] And what would that look like on the ground?

[5:47:37] Effectively we would take immediate steps to tender the work.

[5:47:41] And I think as I explained in your previous line of questioning,

[5:47:45] Based on the timelines provided, I just want to be clear about the expectations of what this would mean on site.

[5:47:51] I think there's a reasonably low chance, very low chance that this would translate to work in the field this year.

[5:47:59] And if I can add, you know, report we have on coming to committee right after this is on the impact of a very challenging construction season.

[5:48:07] We've had unprecedented amounts of rain and we know that many of our road construction contractors who are typically the ones that do this work are scrambling to deliver the projects that they've already been awarded this year and I think you will hear some industry speak to that.

[5:48:26] Okay, and so I can definitely appreciate that piece with

[5:48:36] the adaptable nature of some of the infrastructure going in.

[5:48:41] And I'm thinking I'll use the Bonnie do an example where we're talking about putting in traffic calming measures in some cases

[5:48:51] or modal filters, not necessarily like extensive work

[5:48:58] where we're tearing up concrete.

[5:49:02] Why, like you still see that as a barrier,

[5:49:05] that seems like it's fairly,

[5:49:07] you know, just to add a little bit of detail

[5:49:09] and narrative to this.

[5:49:11] One of the things we've struggled with actually

[5:49:12] has been supply chain for these precast concrete curves.

[5:49:17] It's not a product that the industry normally carries.

[5:49:20] We've actually run into issues and delays on other projects, Victoria Park Road being one,

[5:49:26] which was supposed to happen last year and got deferred to this year.

[5:49:29] So just as an example, those are products that generally we don't supply

[5:49:35] or procure on a very often basis.

[5:49:38] And this active mode's program is created like a very high demand for that product.

[5:49:43] So it's actually been something difficult to source.

[5:49:45] So, as an example, that is one of the things that looks simple in nature, but there's a lot of steps in between to be able to secure that supply chain upfront.

[5:50:01] What about tough curbs?

[5:50:04] Sorry, I have a tough curb product.

[5:50:07] I'd have to get back to you on that one in particular.

[5:50:10] I don't have the specifics on that one.

[5:50:18] Councillor Stevenson.

[5:50:21] Let me just put it on for students and I do need for it and I have a council for convenience,

[5:50:27] policy and documents.

[5:50:36] Again, that's a very detailed question.

[5:50:38] So I wasn't prepared to that.

[5:50:39] Generally we do have the means to be able to cancel projects and I might have to lean on legal services to support me.

[5:50:45] But it does expose us to some risk and those would be assessed probably on a case by case basis.

[5:50:51] So, most of our construction contracts don't have a termination for convenience class.

[5:50:56] It's an exception where we would.

[5:50:59] More than any of the patients have included a chance of a convenience class.

[5:51:03] I think the biggest implication, it takes time and effort and money for companies to bid on our projects.

[5:51:10] We want to make sure that we have as much competition in the environment so that we can get good value for people in Edmonton.

[5:51:16] And so if we put in too many clauses like Council for convenience and we start using them,

[5:51:21] we will have probably less people bidding on our projects, which will drive up price.

[5:51:27] Okay, I'm just thinking back, so two questions I guess.

[5:51:33] I do take administration's, I think the touch point is really valuable.

[5:51:42] And I think that there are things that we've all learned.

[5:51:45] So in the first phase of this very long,

[5:51:47] that could be an opportunity for me, or shifting our practices.

[5:51:53] So for example, my own experience, I see a lot of challenges

[5:51:57] caused by really, very actual bike lanes,

[5:52:00] versus by the actual bike lanes.

[5:52:03] So many administration mechanisms

[5:52:04] that are opportunity to sort of have that type of deep

[5:52:08] if it's a bit of a final incentive.

[5:52:10] And this is the largest active transportation

[5:52:11] and network expansion.

[5:52:13] I think it's also, let me see a little bit of a little for example.

[5:52:18] What do you think thoughts about how to have a let type of conversation?

[5:52:26] Councillor Stevenson, from our perspective, the review of the committee.

[5:52:30] Please, please, design and construction standards provided that exact opportunity to, especially to industry to, we consulted with advocacy groups, related to transportation of all types.

[5:52:43] And so the updated complete streets policy and standards reflect those lessons learned.

[5:52:50] And the approach moving forward is to have it live so that, sorry, feedback can always be provided.

[5:53:01] It's accessible on our website.

[5:53:03] There's a page for that.

[5:53:06] When is the update?

[5:53:09] Can we wait?

[5:53:13] December, last year.

[5:53:14] December of 2025.

[5:53:16] The policy was approved earlier in 2025.

[5:53:19] I believe it was June or August.

[5:53:24] Okay.

[5:53:26] That's correct.

[5:53:28] Okay.

[5:53:29] Welcome back.

[5:53:30] Thank you.

[5:53:31] Okay.

[5:53:31] And I do want to, we've been really generous on rounds.

[5:53:34] And when we were talking about the agenda management, I said we would kind of, you

[5:53:41] know, but I do want to caution to just really stay on point to the report and

[5:53:49] or the motion on the floor right now, not saying that anybody has not, but I just like as we go into progressive rounds,

[5:53:57] really stay focused on what you need to answer questions in the report or on the motion.

[5:54:05] Mayor Nack, please go ahead.

[5:54:08] Thank you very much.

[5:54:10] And sorry, I can't do that in person.

[5:54:11] I'm just under to the meeting that I'll minister.

[5:54:14] So I want to understand, I think the one thing I'm maybe confused about is what I can

[5:54:18] confirm with the administration is.

[5:54:23] So independent of this motion, if it didn't go ahead by the motion, you would still be going

[5:54:31] forward with direction as previously approved, you would have the ability as is within your

[5:54:37] delegated authority to make troops, but not like change the roadway that you would put something

[5:54:43] on is that correct?

[5:54:50] Mayor Nackwee, follow the bike plan when it comes to the selection of the corridor.

[5:54:56] The design of the active transportation route itself is within the administration's

[5:55:03] delegated authority.

[5:55:05] Correct.

[5:55:06] So what I'm saying is that if there was no motion today, if this was taken for information,

[5:55:12] you would continue to build, you would have within your delegated authority the ability to

[5:55:17] week design, but you wouldn't be changing from road x to road y. You might go from a unidirectional

[5:55:24] bike lane to a bi-directional bike lane. That's within your purpose. Is that correct?

[5:55:30] Yeah. Yes. I think that's a representation.

[5:55:34] Yes. Then this is a part of, I want to get clarity on, because I think I heard in an answer

[5:55:39] to another question. Does this motion take a way that delegated authority to make tweaks to

[5:55:47] existing approved reps that are going forward?

[5:55:52] I think it creates a question of whether we're allowed to make what you're calling

[5:56:00] tweaks as we advance moving forward.

[5:56:05] Okay, so the way that's worded and sorry, I just don't have a timer in front of me.

[5:56:09] So the way it's worded if this path is as worded, there is now uncertainty about your

[5:56:16] ability to to weep on an existing approved route.

[5:56:26] Yes, it does.

[5:56:27] Okay, I probably have a time I'll need to come back on and out the move

[5:56:31] with that with their intent because I doubt that the concerns need

[5:56:34] that particular feature.

[5:56:36] You have 30 seconds left may or not.

[5:56:39] To the move with that your intent?

[5:56:41] So when I read Bullet 3 and the way that I'm conceiving of this

[5:56:45] is complete all design work to ensure the procurement is ready to go.

[5:56:50] my understanding is that if there are small adjustments or tweaks that are within delegated

[5:56:56] authority, that that can still happen, but not re-designing to the point that we are taking

[5:57:03] roots off of the program.

[5:57:07] Okay, there's confusion between two parties, so I might need to come back for another round,

[5:57:11] but I'll keep those in.

[5:57:12] Thanks.

[5:57:13] Yeah, thank you.

[5:57:16] Mayor Nack, did you just want to go again, since you were just on your first round and

[5:57:20] everybody else is on several other rounds?

[5:57:24] Yeah, that's great.

[5:57:25] I appreciate it.

[5:57:26] And I guess I just, I need to, so I've heard the Lovers intent, which is to not remove

[5:57:32] that what I would define, it's currently existing delegated authority

[5:57:37] administration. So you're seeing the wording potentially gives you that uncertainty. So I just need to figure out how do we make sure that's clear because I am not looking to remove your delegated avoiding. I want to continue to proceed as is with the ability for you to adjust that to you in a way within any once. So is it just.

[5:58:01] I guess then that the only difference, not exactly motion at all, I mean, do we need a motion?

[5:58:07] Because that's what I hear you're going to do even if we didn't have a motion today.

[5:58:16] Yes, I think, you know, what we've put forward is either status quo.

[5:58:22] We continue operating implementing the program or the modified approach that we clarified today with the new attachment five

[5:58:31] was to come back with more details on the trade-offs in Q1 of 2027.

[5:58:37] So I think we would, all of the motions kind of point back to continuing to deliver on the active transportation implementation.

[5:58:48] So, okay, maybe that's what they're going to say.

[5:58:51] If I didn't accept your attachments or this motion,

[5:58:56] you're going to go forward to build out those, those, all of the infrastructures,

[5:59:00] currently identified, we're going to have, within your delegated authority, the ability

[5:59:04] to make some minor adjustments. That's how it would proceed. And then you wouldn't

[5:59:09] come back to us for the trade-offs, because you would be able to, as part of your ongoing

[5:59:14] design work, make that call. If you think there's a unidirectional series of bike lanes that's currently

[5:59:21] in place and going bi-directional makes more sense, which I actually, you know, I think

[5:59:27] as a city to sort of build to that standard,

[5:59:29] you could then do that if we didn't have any motion,

[5:59:32] you would just go do that,

[5:59:33] that the part of the tender could be going in the spring

[5:59:37] or as soon as possible.

[5:59:42] The answer to that is yes, yes.

[5:59:45] We would be able to proceed.

[5:59:48] We would make the changes ourselves

[5:59:50] for the ones that need sense,

[5:59:52] and that would be not coming back if we don't accept anything.

[5:59:57] OK.

[5:59:59] I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean.

[6:00:04] Do you still have 20 seconds? 30 seconds? Not enough to ask a question and have an answer to help. I'll come back around and start another round. That's the appropriate budget.

[6:00:15] Thank you, Mayor Nack. Councillor Jones.

[6:00:18] Thank you. I think part of the tension here seems to be in some cases like the 50th Street debate.

[6:00:23] admin recommends what I'll call it like gold standard recommendations that are the maximum safety.

[6:00:30] I think in other cases, we still have paint on the roads, we have sharing lanes, such as

[6:00:35] so there seems to be a piece here. What I hear admins saying is we've reviewed the complete

[6:00:39] streets guideline documents that now there can be more flexibility. But then some of the

[6:00:47] responses today gave me, I'm just not sure where we're out on that. I know Councillor Stevenson

[6:00:52] had shared with me she's working on something about saying what do we have to do to basically

[6:00:56] say bi-directional lanes are the standard because they allow for a mix of cycle track,

[6:01:03] they allow for some parking or drop-offs or loading, and they also allow for others.

[6:01:09] Like I believe I heard from admin, we can do bi-directional that's in the complete straight

[6:01:13] guidelines as of December 2025, but then I see other designs that don't have that, so I'm

[6:01:20] I think the consistent inconsistency is what's throwing me here.

[6:01:25] I also go back to, you know, we're talking about a roadway right away that's only so big in a mature neighborhood.

[6:01:33] And so when we put something in, typically that means something that's existing there has to come out.

[6:01:41] And so what we're trying to have a conversation with Council about is what is the most important thing to put in there?

[6:01:48] And what are you okay with taking out?

[6:01:51] By directional lanes, absolutely are part of our tool kit

[6:01:55] and something that we evaluate.

[6:01:57] But they still take road way.

[6:01:59] And they don't necessarily, in all cases,

[6:02:03] allow still for parking or allow for,

[6:02:05] it depends on how wide that road is.

[6:02:07] And so the problem that we're all trying to solve,

[6:02:10] and we have professionals who are doing

[6:02:12] professional work on this, is how do we make it safe

[6:02:17] all the uses of the road. And when there isn't enough room, what is the thing that we're

[6:02:22] okay to take out? And that's really the question that we're trying to have. And we're

[6:02:28] understanding that we move forward with a lot of bike lanes. We put up the slide, we've

[6:02:34] delivered a number of them. But what going forward, the choices are trickier. And so we are trying

[6:02:43] to evaluate that. And so where there's an opportunity, like 50th where there is a

[6:02:47] boulevard that we can kind of get into that, that's more expensive treatment, but

[6:02:52] we can use that. There is road right away there. What happens when we run out of road right

[6:02:58] right away? I think is sort of the conversation that we're trying to say, Council, we're

[6:03:04] getting into some of these points where the trade-offs are hard. What should we prioritize?

[6:03:12] Okay, I'm not a time.

[6:03:15] Hi, I offered the mayor the same courtesy, so since that was your first round,

[6:03:19] did you want to go again?

[6:03:20] Well, do you want to think on that?

[6:03:21] I guess I guess where I'm very confused right now is maybe to the city manager.

[6:03:28] We have a report. The report was incorrect.

[6:03:30] It's been corrected. We heard the opening here, but I don't understand what direction

[6:03:36] and Edmund is looking for right now.

[6:03:38] Like that Congress to the previous talk about what, you know,

[6:03:44] we need to know from Council what the trade-offs are.

[6:03:46] We kind of have that in the complete straight guidelines.

[6:03:48] We have lots of places where we take up parking.

[6:03:50] We have lots of places where we'll not do a double sided bike lane.

[6:03:54] We'll do a bi-directional bike lane.

[6:03:56] I guess what direction is needed right now?

[6:03:59] I think for us, we're seeking the ability,

[6:04:01] like we've got an opportunity right now

[6:04:03] because we're in between construction seasons.

[6:04:05] So we have some stuff that we can put out later or put out now that's going to build next year.

[6:04:11] Do we still, are we still comfortable with the approach that we're in right now and getting confirmation?

[6:04:16] I think they're your motion says yes we are and then we just implement what we have designed today and put it in.

[6:04:24] I think we have an opportunity right now to look at balance if we want to look at some balance on some of those corridors that where we might have some space to look at a different design.

[6:04:35] principle that would that would give some more balance back. But isn't that the complete

[6:04:40] streets guidelines that we passed in December?

[6:04:46] The guidelines provide for what our objectives

[6:04:49] are, what are the how we can implement them. But they do not provide context specific direction.

[6:04:59] And so each of the corridors needs to be designed for the context that it has. What's the road

[6:05:04] what's the use? Does it have transit? Does it have schools? And so those are all things that are very

[6:05:10] context sensitive and so when we talk about the treat-offs, the standards are providing a guideline,

[6:05:18] but again, they need to be applied and they're applied by professionals and so the guidance we're

[6:05:22] seeking is, what do we tell those professionals? How do we decide right now? Like we have a road and

[6:05:27] there's no room for parking on it. We just don't put parking on it. We have a road and it's coming

[6:05:30] up to a corner, we just don't put parking on the corner. It's a blind spot. We already have

[6:05:34] a triage of like pedestrian safety car safety parking. We already know a lot of this, I guess.

[6:05:45] So the subsequent motion that Councillor Stevenson sent to me was standardized by directional

[6:05:50] lanes as a preferred on street facility with clear parameters when alternatives would be considered.

[6:05:54] That sounds very explicit. And revising options to allow the stacking of minimum and constrained

[6:05:59] standards on existing states with reference to design domain concept design

[6:06:03] exception process and the role of community values in informing decision making

[6:06:07] with something like just explicit like that and come back to infrastructure committee.

[6:06:11] I would encourage, you know, us to be very careful about getting into the realm of design.

[6:06:17] But I feel like we're here today because we're being asked to make a design decision.

[6:06:22] I think we're asking about what are the trade-offs if we're in a corridor.

[6:06:28] Are we comfortable removing parking?

[6:06:30] But we've done this hard.

[6:06:32] Thank you.

[6:06:34] I'll take my turn now.

[6:06:35] I think we just have to have a bit of context setting.

[6:06:39] Because when I read the report,

[6:06:41] there's been a lot of criticism,

[6:06:43] but I actually think the report overall.

[6:06:44] I just want to say it was really good.

[6:06:46] And I actually thought it was really helpful

[6:06:47] in understanding as not an engineer,

[6:06:50] some of the constraints that engineers face with.

[6:06:54] You know, the loss of trees,

[6:06:55] the loss of parking,

[6:06:56] in the loss of traffic, the safety of the pedestrians,

[6:06:59] the safety of the bikers,

[6:07:01] like there's a lot, like it was really eye-opening

[6:07:03] to me for that.

[6:07:05] But at the end of the day,

[6:07:07] any of that direction like Councilor Jans is alluding to,

[6:07:11] and we can debate whether at the next budget

[6:07:12] if we want to do that.

[6:07:14] But the scope of the project that is in front of us today

[6:07:17] was for rapid deployment and not to be doing your ideal,

[6:07:24] like what you would do if you had road renewal is not the same as what you are doing now on

[6:07:30] Any of these roads, because that is not the direction that you were given, nor do we have the budget, or council did not approve that budget to do that work. Correct.

[6:07:40] So you've been trying to work within a hundred million dollar envelope to do as many as fast as possible. So that means some that are more complicated.

[6:07:49] We'll have one design, and you know that we know maybe they have more usage, or more safety risks. We'll have a higher level of design.

[6:07:56] And others might be less designed because they're not as used.

[6:08:00] It's not as much of a risk than you're, but you are in, you are in good faith, Wayne, all

[6:08:05] of those options to get to that, to that within that scope and cap of $100 million that you

[6:08:13] were given.

[6:08:15] And I think what we're saying we would bring back to Council is are there opportunities that

[6:08:22] were not evaluated in the current evaluations because of the direction of the program to do the rapid

[6:08:30] acceleration and the not permanent infrastructure. So we'll continue to look at the list.

[6:08:36] We have considered multiple options in all of them, but are there options that were ruled out

[6:08:42] initially because they didn't fit the parameters of the program? And that's what we were very

[6:08:46] to check in quarter one, 20 percent.

[6:08:49] Because the administrations in a lose-lews situation,

[6:08:51] sometimes from what I see.

[6:08:52] And again, I'm so empathetic because I used to be

[6:08:54] an administration of like, if you put more money

[6:08:58] into a smaller amount of things,

[6:09:01] you're going to get the critique from counselors

[6:09:03] and the public about why you haven't done more

[6:09:05] with the $100 million.

[6:09:07] If you do like not ideal planning or not bi-directional,

[6:09:12] then you get critiques about why you're not,

[6:09:14] Is it like is it fair to say that that's sort of some of the attention to that we've been experiencing in this 100% yeah

[6:09:21] Okay, that's I'll leave it there for now. Councillor Saladour. Yeah, thank you

[6:09:26] I just wanted to come back to

[6:09:28] attachment three

[6:09:30] just for the

[6:09:32] 26

[6:09:33] Roots and just the status of a number of them

[6:09:37] So the ones where

[6:09:39] tender has been awarded, but construction has not yet started. Like I think there's

[6:09:47] 38, like 84th Avenue, 92A, 93th Street, those particular ones.

[6:09:55] I guess for those

[6:09:56] there's a little note at the end saying that essentially for the for the

[6:10:02] direction pending this council conversation council report would be needed on

[6:10:07] with this motion, those are also green, let like go.

[6:10:12] We have a contractor on board.

[6:10:14] We've had a pre-construction meeting, like those are those, that's the bundle that

[6:10:18] pre-gated the other bundle of three that I've mentioned, so that's actually, so we're in

[6:10:23] better shape there.

[6:10:24] We have a contractor who's part-paving.

[6:10:26] Okay, so those, okay, thank you.

[6:10:29] And then I alluded to a subsequent around resourcing as well.

[6:10:35] And I just want to understand, I guess, given the list of projects that's included as part of these bundles,

[6:10:44] if there is a need for additional resourcing to complete this work, will you come to us at budget with that ask?

[6:10:52] How, like, if there's a message like a top-up, I'll say, that's needed.

[6:10:56] Yeah, I think our goal is to obviously implement the entire program.

[6:11:02] So we would look at the designs that we have, the money that we have left over.

[6:11:05] We would come back to council if we can't continue the program.

[6:11:10] Or we've run out of money to finish the program.

[6:11:12] We back at council to have a conversation about how we prioritize the rest of that.

[6:11:16] Okay, so there's an opportunity for a top of for existing program.

[6:11:20] program and then there's more like a future focus conversation around the next phase of

[6:11:25] like plant implementation beyond this. Yeah, I just don't know if that will happen. I don't

[6:11:29] feel no all that information by the time we get to this year budget or if it'll be sometime

[6:11:33] in this year. So it might be next year budget. So sorry if there's like I we may not know

[6:11:45] by the time we do our four year budget. If this is if we have enough to kind of last it

[6:11:49] we're looking at Q1 of 2027 to have that understanding of where we are

[6:11:53] pretended to be project. Obviously if we're going to redesign some stuff we

[6:11:56] could have do that through the next few months and then we'll have a better idea

[6:11:59] where we stand on what's left in the project. Yeah we we anticipate at the end of

[6:12:03] this year we will have 20 million dollars left in the program which will allow us to

[6:12:07] move forward into the next phase. We're going to look at the roots and then if there

[6:12:12] are roots that require a different treatment that would be more expensive or

[6:12:15] something, we can bring that to Council through South's Quinn S.T.B.A.

[6:12:19] Okay.

[6:12:19] Great.

[6:12:20] Thank you.

[6:12:23] Thank you.

[6:12:24] Can Mayor NAC?

[6:12:28] Okay.

[6:12:29] Sorry.

[6:12:30] Again, I'm trying to make sure I understand all this.

[6:12:32] I'm just to the last set of questions.

[6:12:35] There's a bundle of projects ready to go pending the completion of this meeting.

[6:12:39] If you did not have any different direction, those would still be going forward.

[6:12:45] Correct.

[6:12:46] Correct.

[6:12:49] potentially one of the reasons for this notion is the other projects that are not yet, like immediately

[6:12:55] kind of ready or close to.

[6:12:58] But what I've heard into the advances is that even with emotion, there is absolutely zero way

[6:13:04] some of those remaining projects can actually move forward.

[6:13:08] Is that correct?

[6:13:09] This year.

[6:13:10] This year.

[6:13:10] That is also correct.

[6:13:13] So is there anything that you,

[6:13:16] So just trying out the hypothetical, if this motion would have passed, is there anything

[6:13:21] that you would have been doing that you could do this year, that you weren't going

[6:13:27] to for some reason into next year?

[6:13:30] Mayor Nack, we would...

[6:13:31] I'm just trying to get it.

[6:13:33] Yeah, what's that?

[6:13:33] Is there really a need for this for me to answer?

[6:13:37] I mean, we are always trying to deliver, so if, you know, we would look at everything that

[6:13:44] we can.

[6:13:45] And we would see if there's shakes of trees and see if we could find anything we can do this

[6:13:49] fall.

[6:13:51] But at this point, based on the procurement and the focus on delivering our projects that

[6:13:58] are already under construction, it is very, very unlikely.

[6:14:06] There's more.

[6:14:07] I'm going to have to move up.

[6:14:09] I'm here on that.

[6:14:13] What I is recognizing, it sounds like they can't do it because I hear the motions in

[6:14:21] I would love that if possible because I want to finish it, I'm hearing that might not be the case.

[6:14:28] You would say that you're not looking to take away their delegated authority to tweak.

[6:14:33] So I guess I'm just at the point of, I'm not sure I see the purpose of a motion,

[6:14:39] which is going to accomplish the exact signal come as if this is just received information.

[6:14:44] I

[6:14:48] can appreciate that. One of the primary reasons that I feel that this motion is necessary is to provide

[6:14:56] absolute clarity around

[6:15:00] The intention of how this program is rolling out. I was surprised to see the amount of weight given to parking and lanes in the proposed approach that was brought forward in this report and I think it's important to be able to provide clarity that council is still comfortable advancing under the previously approved scope of this project.

[6:15:30] for the party. I'm going to run out of time. I'm sorry. I'll come back.

[6:15:34] Okay, no, let's go. I'll come back for a moment.

[6:15:39] Councilor Stevenson.

[6:15:42] Thank you. I think, I think, I think all I'm struggling is,

[6:15:48] again, I think I need to switch, I can't, I think there's just something we can't,

[6:15:51] I shouldn't let's see what I'm trying to do. Maybe health administration isn't trying to put in.

[6:15:57] So we have to see back or put it back.

[6:16:01] But, so, okay, so just,

[6:16:05] we get a new particular constraint policy.

[6:16:09] We got lines and lines and lines,

[6:16:11] so that we are clearly,

[6:16:12] but they have, I can see the different implications for how

[6:16:15] have this program and maybe the real

[6:16:18] another program that we're going to get.

[6:16:21] And so there's a explicit statement in the

[6:16:23] complete straight design settings that doesn't need

[6:16:25] actual equities are preferred.

[6:16:30] For me, this is a source of a lot of potential, but I've seen

[6:16:33] community and I think have a considerable operational impact that we haven't grappled with,

[6:16:39] so that it's both twice the cost, for me to know many actual equities, and so by actual equities.

[6:16:47] situation, but how do we, what's in it, hopefully, for Calcate, but back on each on this?

[6:16:58] So, Councillor Stevenson, I think the first thing is that we do not agree that the problem

[6:17:04] is the unidirectional versus bidirectional. In the sense that, as Sarah's mentioning,

[6:17:10] we explore all types of design for every corridor, and ultimately if the bidirectional

[6:17:15] offers an ability to provide a better active transportation infrastructure.

[6:17:21] We absolutely do it and in case of a point that we have designs for bi-directionals in

[6:17:29] this program.

[6:17:31] So I think the importance of the bad ones, there's a preference based on safety data and

[6:17:39] informed engineering designs.

[6:17:42] And again, I've been just from the research I've done come as such as I've had, like that's large.

[6:17:50] Like Bible actually is still safe.

[6:17:52] And I just feel like these are the considerations that I've built into.

[6:17:56] And I think that's a challenge.

[6:17:57] But it's true.

[6:17:58] Kind of a little bit of a whole option is equally.

[6:18:01] But that's not what I see in the guidance.

[6:18:03] I see a preference for that.

[6:18:05] For example, the application is there.

[6:18:08] I think that that necessarily has a higher degree of trade-off than other approaches.

[6:18:16] Yeah, and I've, I'm sorry to interrupt you can pause Councillor Stevenson's time.

[6:18:20] I think we're getting into potential subsequent and complete streets to conversation.

[6:18:25] Nothing in this report talks about complete streets.

[6:18:29] So I just want to, like again, be very mindful of the scope of our questioning to the report itself

[6:18:35] and the motion on the floor.

[6:18:40] I appreciate that on this level, given that it is reference because there is a checking

[6:18:44] point that there is suggestion, like it is the leading example of the parking and the waves.

[6:18:51] I like to understand for the administration how they came to that conclusion that those were

[6:18:55] where the top priorities of council and I can come back to get that answer.

[6:19:05] Mayor Nack?

[6:19:09] That's it. I think it's a little bit of an offset. So I guess, you know, because I put some commentary from the provincial side about this need to civil engineers not so short years.

[6:19:21] And so I guess I wanted to stick to the current approach you take. It's civil engineers go through and they look at a road. They come up with their best design. They prioritize safety. I think that that is the direction that it's been exploited. So you see, give it that right.

[6:19:37] That is correct.

[6:19:40] So it's nothing else changing today.

[6:19:42] Because I heard from the mover there was a worry about in the report if you

[6:19:47] have with your suggestion.

[6:19:49] It may be an unfair phrase.

[6:19:52] I just don't know a little better way to say it.

[6:19:54] Because it's quite a deep prior time.

[6:19:57] We would lower the safety priority a little bit to potentially increase it somewhere

[6:20:02] or something else.

[6:20:04] I know that's not exactly the exact description, I'm just not sure how I was to describe it.

[6:20:10] Mayor, if I can do that.

[6:20:11] Because you're just that, yeah.

[6:20:13] We would not, we would not lower a safety standard.

[6:20:18] What we put in the modified approach was that based on the feedback received from community,

[6:20:24] from council members, is that we understood that the parking and travel lanes needed to be

[6:20:32] considered more fulsome.

[6:20:36] Let us say.

[6:20:37] And that we would have looked at the alternative designs, but we would never compromise on safety.

[6:20:43] So there's the key, so I think really what the key, so no motion goes forward, you're going to consider that additional piece to it using your engineering expertise and to create the most, you know, a very safe solution.

[6:21:05] But I think the most of it's safety, you never have anything anywhere except that kind of

[6:21:11] sidewalk or something like that.

[6:21:12] Do you want to try or type-safe?

[6:21:14] Did you go to Google?

[6:21:15] Perhaps you're going to take that into account.

[6:21:17] You're just going to try or type-safe.

[6:21:19] That might mean something to the interaction.

[6:21:22] It's a five direction.

[6:21:23] That might mean something else.

[6:21:25] But safety still becomes scared.

[6:21:28] That's part of your requirements.

[6:21:31] Yes.

[6:21:32] And, and Miranaclet me also say all of our designs follow engineering standards and are ultimately

[6:21:39] stamped by a professional engineer, occasionally by our staff, but frequently by consulting

[6:21:44] engineers. And they take, you know, an oath and have a professional designation that requires

[6:21:50] them to consider certain elements. And, and their stamp is has a legal protection with that.

[6:22:00] Exactly. Yeah, that's really important to note. I don't know if that's been communicated to the problem.

[6:22:05] So how are we going to check it up on the work?

[6:22:09] OK, I think that answered all of my questions. Thanks.

[6:22:17] Thank you. I would like to move to delete bullet 2, please, from this motion.

[6:22:30] As an amendment to the main motion, we will load that on the screen.

[6:22:39] And just to introduce, I think, I heard some tension. I understand the intent of the mover with wanting to give a crystal clear direction.

[6:22:48] I also understand real, like, we don't, even if we say something, it doesn't come magically to fruition if the time and resources don't allow it.

[6:22:59] And so where we are, as unfortunate as where we are now, it's where we are now, I don't like the idea of partially starting and finishing construction.

[6:23:07] I think that's actually going to contribute negatively to people's reception of the bike plan implementation.

[6:23:14] I think that it is going to end up costing us more money because contractors are going to have to think about gearing up for this year and next.

[6:23:27] And I just think there's a lot of uncertainty.

[6:23:29] So I understand that I'm in support the other two.

[6:23:33] I can't support this one.

[6:23:34] So I thought I would debate it.

[6:23:37] That's it.

[6:23:38] Councillor Stevenson.

[6:23:45] I am.

[6:23:46] I just was thinking of the situation.

[6:23:48] We've looked out of some of the infrastructure programs,

[6:23:51] some other projects.

[6:23:53] So I go opportunities with that to look at both of these facilities.

[6:23:58] Typically, when we've talked about accelerated construction,

[6:24:00] we've talked about opening up more road right away for projects to get more work done in a shorter

[6:24:07] period of time, like we've done on the intersections with family line, for example,

[6:24:16] so I don't know

[6:24:17] how this would apply in this situation.

[6:24:21] I think this is where the big study of hours,

[6:24:24] You know, approaches to the bundle where the so-called case segment by segments, looking at, ah, you know,

[6:24:33] but the quick improvement ones, there's a lot of positive debates that I should.

[6:24:41] I'd say generally the scope of the work of these projects doesn't really lend itself to, I'm trying to think of ways that we can accelerate it.

[6:24:48] I think, you know, having the supply chain and materials available up front obviously is a big part of this and I think that's probably our biggest opportunity.

[6:24:57] there is. We were viewing the designs as we were speaking here. There is some civil infrastructure

[6:25:02] involved as part of this curve and gutter of relocations, catch basins, things like that.

[6:25:08] So certainly extending the hours within a residential community is not something we generally do

[6:25:13] with our neighborhood construction. So just thinking about the example in 79th Street,

[6:25:18] I don't know that that would be palatable both for the contractor and for the community, but

[6:25:24] We can explore that with our contractor once we have one on board once we get a schedule from them.

[6:25:36] Are you done your questions, Councillor Stevenson?

[6:25:40] Okay, we're coming up to 330.

[6:25:44] I understand that there is one committee member that does have questions on attachment for is that correct?

[6:25:52] Correct. So, if we've exhausted all public questions,

[6:26:00] and maybe I see there's one more,

[6:26:02] we can debate the motion. I think if we are amendable, if we can move to go into private now,

[6:26:08] and I'll be very diligent that we're only going to talk about what's in attachment for.

[6:26:12] I'm going to be ruthless and private about that. And then we can come back and then I'd like to focus the conversation on the motions on the floor.

[6:26:20] you both the amendment and the original motion so that we can move on because again other items on this agenda are timely and we need to get to them.

[6:26:29] So can I get a motion Councillor Clark?

[6:26:35] Yeah, I'll move that we'll go into private section of remind me.

[6:26:40] Whatever.

[6:26:41] What is attachment for

[6:26:44] for intergovernmental relations and advice from officials for intergovernmental relations

[6:26:51] and advice for officials in attachment for.

[6:26:53] I'm privileged to inform you.

[6:26:54] I'm privileged to inform you.

[6:26:56] So section 26, disclosure harmful to intergovernmental relations, section 29 advice from officials

[6:27:03] and section 32, privileged information of the access to information act.

[6:27:08] Correct.

[6:27:10] Thank you.

[6:27:10] Any questions on going into private for questions on that attachment?

[6:27:16] please vote. Yes.

[6:27:20] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Nack.

[6:27:26] Councillor Piquette, are you with us?

[6:27:32] Little Mark Councillor Piquette. Absolutely. We have all the votes.

[6:27:36] Please display the votes. And that is carried.

[6:27:40] So for those that are already leaving you, it seems like you know it's happening.

[6:27:43] We're going to have our break. We're going to recess now until 345.

[6:27:47] We're going to come back in private for focused questions and then we will, that we'll be back to debate the motion on the floor.

[6:27:56] Thank you.

[7:09:19] Just let me know when we're ready to begin again.

[7:09:25] Were there any members of the public that we're waiting to come in?

[7:09:29] We're good to let them in, yes.

[7:10:02] And Madam Clerk, Madam Clerk, any more sorry, we switched for a long day. I apologize.

[7:10:12] Can you put up the motion that we left off on when we were in public, the amendment for the motion?

[7:10:20] So, as mentioned, I'd really like to, I think we've asked a lot of rounds of questions on the report.

[7:10:26] We're going to focus right now on the amendment to the motion on the floor.

[7:10:34] Does anybody have any questions on the amendment?

[7:10:46] I'm not seeing any, would anyone like to speak to this amendment?

[7:10:58] Councillor Salvitor?

[7:11:00] Yeah, thank you.

[7:11:01] Just wanted to hop on.

[7:11:02] I won't be supporting this amendment.

[7:11:04] I can understand why it was made and I understand that their limitations around how much work we think we can get done this season.

[7:11:13] But I think at least providing the flexibility for administration to to make those calls and advance some work even if it is minimal in certain cases,

[7:11:23] whether that is, you know, getting going on some of the local street bikeways that are less

[7:11:31] less involved from a design and materials perspective, I think that that is, that was the

[7:11:36] original intention I want to retain that, so won't be supporting this amendment.

[7:11:42] Thank you, Councillor Selvedor, Councillor Jones.

[7:11:45] Yep, same thing.

[7:11:45] I think there's a lot that can be done, you know, we talked about model filters, we talked

[7:11:49] about others, and I think we should be holding it up to the light.

[7:11:51] I have heard from many, many constituents, family, friends, commuters, others along the

[7:11:59] area in Bonnie Dune in particular who've been waiting for certainly five years, but much

[7:12:04] longer to have the same sort of safe quality infrastructure that Garno, McCurney, and

[7:12:09] Velgravia, others, others have, so long overdue, I want to see that and I just want

[7:12:15] to address for a moment and I won't repeat this later, but we've heard a few times about

[7:12:19] potential changing ministerial direction or initiatives or whatever, but we have yet to have

[7:12:25] anything official in writing.

[7:12:27] We have yet to see policy to review.

[7:12:29] We have yet to see draft regulations.

[7:12:32] In my 11 years at the public school board, any time there would be the education minister

[7:12:36] had a contemplative change to the education act or something else.

[7:12:40] There would be like a guide we would get and we'd go through and we'd look at implications

[7:12:44] and we'd respond to it and we'd have submissions from school boards and we'd have feedback

[7:12:48] we meet with the Alberta school boards or the public school boards or whoever. We've yet to

[7:12:52] have any of this from this minister. This is just governance by soundbite governance by

[7:12:57] maybe this is in, maybe this is out, maybe this is, and so I don't want to waste any

[7:13:02] worry, time, talent, treasure on what could be. I think we need to, we have right now areas that we

[7:13:10] can make safer, that we can help enhance mobility choices. We need to do those right things,

[7:13:15] and let the if the minister's going to do something in future, well, they need to send us something in writing.

[7:13:22] Thank you.

[7:13:24] Thank you, Councillor Clarke.

[7:13:28] Yeah, I'll support this amendment.

[7:13:29] I mean, I think we heard loud and clear.

[7:13:31] There's a reasonably low chance to get this done 2026 for a minute.

[7:13:37] And I think actually when you pair that with the construction projects,

[7:13:41] do the weather delays that are already happened.

[7:13:43] And then that's taking priority for a lot of the people that we would be contracting.

[7:13:47] on this. It even shows the chance of this happening or even slimmer in my opinion. I think this is

[7:13:54] a fair point to take out and this is really just trying to take the lens of trying to have

[7:14:01] good governance and sound decision making and I think that's what this amendment does.

[7:14:07] Thank you and I won't speak too much to this except for just reiterating some of the things

[7:14:16] Councillor Clark said there's what we'd like to see and then there's the reality of what

[7:14:20] could happen. And those are often in this role, in this example, but in every other example

[7:14:27] of city building usually the case. And so the reality is there are supply chain issues.

[7:14:36] The reality is there are labor issues. The reality is we've been hit by some real weather

[7:14:42] events this summer that have, you know, current existing construction projects that need

[7:14:49] to be refocus. We've just had, you know, I just put out the post about yellow head and

[7:14:54] some of the work that's happening around that to, you know, make back up the timeline.

[7:15:00] So, you know, for those reasons, I just look at the, I'm always like look at the context and look at the reality and as a reality match our ideals.

[7:15:09] And I don't see this direction actually, doing that in fact, I think we would end up paying a lot more because if we are going to compete in that context, we're going to pay a lot more to get the same product as we would in 2027.

[7:15:24] So, for those reasons, you know, I think it is prudent to think about, you know, the realities of this construction season and what we can achieve.

[7:15:35] And, but also, you know, I won't speak to the main motion. I do support the other two parts of it.

[7:15:42] And I want to see it proceed, and I want to see all of that great work in the scope of the original plan continue.

[7:15:56] And so that's why I moved this motion. Thank you. Please vote.

[7:16:10] Yeah, well, the vote. Please display the vote.

[7:16:17] And that is defeated. So we'll go back to the main motion.

[7:16:26] So anybody following that means that the amendment is still there,

[7:16:33] anybody with questions

[7:16:34] on the main motion,

[7:16:44] anybody to speak to the main motion?

[7:16:53] So I will speak.

[7:16:55] So with the lack of removal of the amendment two, I cannot support this motion on the floor.

[7:17:03] I think it's clear that one and three were slightly redundant to the already existing council direction and that we, you know, were debating whether we even just receiving for information would have been substantial anyway to say just keep going forward with the plan as directed and if this fails, that's exactly what we would be directing.

[7:17:28] So, failing this motion is essentially received for information.

[7:17:32] So, for those reasons, I will not be supporting this motion on the floor.

[7:17:41] Councillor Cark?

[7:17:43] Yeah, you know, a couple things I'll say and try to get it done quickly.

[7:17:49] You know, I think it's very clear kind of what we heard and we heard a bunch in private that I can't share,

[7:17:56] but obviously what might happen at the provinces is them far out of their lane.

[7:18:00] you might even call it a three in the key violation or a flag or a flat foul if you

[7:18:04] want to use sports analogy.

[7:18:07] But that is a reality of where we are here.

[7:18:12] I think the good news is what we heard from all the speakers today is, there's a general

[7:18:17] acceptance of act of transportation and the importance it is for our city and for people to

[7:18:22] get around.

[7:18:23] I think we're past that, right?

[7:18:26] The question that's kind of in front of us and with this motion is putting out there is,

[7:18:32] you know, how do we kind of step back and in my seat as a counselor and know what all this information

[7:18:38] and know what's coming ahead and make the most kind of prudent sound decision that's available,

[7:18:46] right? And I can't, I can't unsee what I've seen. I guess I put it that way. I know there's something coming.

[7:18:52] I want to have the transportation for the long-term, you know, I even put a motion forward

[7:18:57] on a hundred and seven that have to really make that like a showcase piece because I think

[7:19:01] that can happen and that can probably fit in with whatever regulations might come down the

[7:19:07] pipe.

[7:19:07] So, I want to make sure that we have long-term ones that really work and fit and I still think

[7:19:14] that we can have a connected network all around the city and can get people from downtown

[7:19:21] in the West End and do an amazing job of that, but I want to just take some proactive approaches

[7:19:28] to make sure that when we're looking at speeding up processes, accelerating them, getting

[7:19:34] them to tender, getting designed, that we have that context in mind because I think we have to

[7:19:40] do that to be really fair with ourselves when we're making these decisions, right? So for all

[7:19:50] to have you ensure active transportation

[7:19:53] and doing the best we can, especially in my award.

[7:19:57] Whatever that looks like in the future.

[7:20:02] Thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

[7:20:05] Thank you.

[7:20:06] Thank you, Ms. Wanda Cook, to end my support for this motion.

[7:20:10] I think it is, but one, just interesting for you,

[7:20:13] following our commitment to the work and ensuring

[7:20:16] that we're continuing to make our decisions based on our policies

[7:20:20] and the evidence that we use to inform our decisions.

[7:20:24] I think, you know, political speculation doesn't serve

[7:20:28] out between us.

[7:20:29] Wow.

[7:20:30] And for me, it's really important that we set a clear message

[7:20:33] in terms of our intent to continue.

[7:20:35] It's really important for them.

[7:20:37] You know, it really struck me hearing from evidence

[7:20:42] who are really benefiting from these facilities

[7:20:47] for affordability, for the safety of families and themselves.

[7:20:50] And I think this is a great opportunity to be informed of the action.

[7:20:57] Thank you.

[7:20:59] Thank you, Councillor Jones.

[7:21:00] I'm ready to vote, sorry.

[7:21:06] Okay.

[7:21:08] Councillor Salvatore, any final comments?

[7:21:11] Sure.

[7:21:11] Yeah.

[7:21:12] I'll just, I'll be brief as well.

[7:21:13] I said a lot of my opening, but just wanted to, again,

[7:21:16] thank everyone who's participated in the discussion today.

[7:21:19] and voice their perspectives, and really the intention here is to provide clarity and reaffirm

[7:21:28] the existing direction of this critically important program and the critically important routes

[7:21:33] that are planned for this year and next. Yeah, just reflecting on what we heard from speakers,

[7:21:41] it was really really quite powerful to hear folks who do have access to safe and protected infrastructure,

[7:21:48] how that has contributed to being able to move around our communities in safe and healthy

[7:21:54] way to meet their daily needs and and in contrast to that folks who who don't have that,

[7:22:02] but see a future where where that's a possibility and I want to make sure that that vision

[7:22:06] is realized and in order to do that we need to continue moving forward and we need to continue

[7:22:12] the momentum that we've built. It's been really exciting to see the infrastructure that's been built

[7:22:17] under this program so far and how far we have come as a city but there's still

[7:22:21] a long ways to go. And yeah again I am hopeful that this

[7:22:30] This motion can pass to provide that additional clarity and that direction. I also think some of the explicit

[7:22:40] direction around being ready to go for our next construction season as part of bullet three is really important so that we can

[7:22:46] get those tenders ready, and see construction happening early as early as possible.

[7:22:53] And I'm also just reflecting on the reality of installing and implementing active transportation

[7:22:59] infrastructure in existing areas where there are constrained roadways.

[7:23:03] And I've said this before, I'll mention it again, not a stranger to that reality.

[7:23:07] the vast majority of roots in Mordmati require those, those trade-offs, and there is limited right

[7:23:15] of way. And in many cases that does mean that there are changes to parking, changes to the orientation

[7:23:20] of lanes, and not just the reality that we, we have to move through in order to deliver safe protected

[7:23:28] and dedicated active modes infrastructure for our communities.

[7:23:36] Yeah, and again, I've expressed not not comfortable with the proposed approach, as I do feel it puts too much weight on parking and leans at the expense of potentially the expense of delivering active transit infrastructure, which is why it's so critical that we continue as planned.

[7:23:52] So I will, I will leave it there, but but again, gratitude to all the speakers who came out today

[7:24:00] and

[7:24:00] Everyone who's participated. Thanks

[7:24:04] Please vote. I mean, yes

[7:24:07] Hey, you can't say, Jans.

[7:24:13] We have all the votes.

[7:24:47] It was defeated to two. Test test. Oh, they're back there, man's up

[7:24:52] That one's fast. Yeah, okay. They're back. They're back. Okay. So that was defeated and so I just want to get like again

[7:24:58] here, Councillor Salvador's point of crystal clarity. We typically have stopped in this term

[7:25:03] doing receipt for information, but would receipt of information give you any further clarity

[7:25:11] or can we just move on? Because I don't think there's any desire for anybody on committee

[7:25:15] to move the recommendation from administration.

[7:25:22] I think we can just move on. We can just move on. Okay. Let's move on. Thank you. Thank you

[7:25:28] everyone again for participating today. And I will say thank you to...

[7:25:32] Sorry, do you want to find keeping attachment for private?

[7:25:37] Oh, yes, okay. So I will move that.

[7:25:41] I want to...

[7:25:41] You don't need to second that committee.

[7:25:44] So I will move that we keep attachment for private.

[7:25:48] And I do have a question about that.

[7:25:50] Is there an ability to add a time clause to that?

[7:25:55] Or no.

[7:25:57] I believe Jen, yeah, I can mean he could add a certain date or a certain other doctor.

[7:26:07] Oh, agreed with the clerk, but for the caution that I gave when we were in private,

[7:26:11] so that should be flagged for that portion of it to be reviewed separately.

[7:26:16] Yeah, I think I'll keep it as it is for now, but I would flag to administration that when

[7:26:23] the time is appropriate, I might want to revisit this and be able to release part of it at

[7:26:27] Yes. Yes. Sounds good. Okay. Any other questions on the motion? Please vote?

[7:26:37] Yes.

[7:26:41] We have all the votes. Thank you, Councillor Chancellor.

[7:26:43] And then just because I know sometimes Council can be a little bit odd. I do want to just

[7:26:48] and I know there's been a lot of stakeholders that have been falling along and even

[7:26:50] some stakeholders that maybe this is their first time.

[7:26:53] Tuning into a council agenda. I do want to just kind of break down what just happened.

[7:26:58] So, we had the report, and basically within committee is delegated authority, we have said continue that we are not changing direction in any way.

[7:27:10] Please continue forward as has been the scope, so that is the accelerated plan with the roots as planned to date.

[7:27:21] And that's where we are today, so I just wanted to give everyone watching an understanding of what we did there.

[7:27:31] And we will move now onto our next item, which was the next one of the speakers on it.

[7:27:38] And I believe that's where it's item.

[7:27:41] Don't know if we displayed the vote or finished the vote on the vote.

[7:27:46] Sorry, we just kept

[7:27:54] a attachment for private and now we will move on to 7.1 is our next item of business

[7:28:04] because we did at the beginning put all of the items of speakers in order and sequence so we will switch up the delegation for item 7.1

[7:28:15] or is it the same delegation?

[7:28:17] Okay. Please take it away.

[7:28:48] Good afternoon. Joining me today are senior leaders from Infrastructure

[7:28:52] Services and City Operations. This presentation is an extension of discussion at Infrastructure

[7:28:58] Committee earlier in the year, where we provided a look ahead of our 2020 six construction

[7:29:04] season. With August marking the bid point of our typical construction season, our first part of

[7:29:10] the season has been challenging. Largely based on the unusual amount of rain we've experienced.

[7:29:16] This presentation will outline our accomplishments to date the impacts of recent rain events

[7:29:21] and our outlook for the remaining construction season.

[7:29:27] Over the course of June and July,

[7:29:28] the city experienced one of its most historic weather events. The wetest summer on record

[7:29:33] with over 500 millimeters of rain before the end of July.

[7:29:37] Typically, Edmonton has an average annual rainfall of just over 400 millimeters.

[7:29:43] Total precipitation was significant as was the intensity with localized intense short duration events.

[7:29:49] Fifteen days with thunderstorms in June and 19 in July.

[7:29:54] These historic challenges have put pressure on our city,

[7:29:57] with roads disrupted by rainfall and many.

[7:30:00] Home's flooded, and on city staff, as we responded to the strain on our vital infrastructure.

[7:30:06] Public safety has been our first priority, while we strive to repair and maintain the core services that residents and business community rely on day-to-day.

[7:30:15] Our teams within the city across all departments have been working day and night alongside partners like AppCore and Emergency Services

[7:30:22] to stabilize major transportation corridors,

[7:30:26] rural valley and ravine systems, and address public hazards.

[7:30:31] Since July 10th, the city has successfully managed over 1,400 storm-related short-term operational issues

[7:30:38] through our dedicated 24-7 response.

[7:30:41] In addition to accessing our insurance and warranties,

[7:30:45] the city is working very closely with the province to try and recover eligible costs from recent weather events

[7:30:51] through the hazard assistance and resilience program harp.

[7:30:55] This program may allow us to recover 90% of eligible unensurable costs with the city covering

[7:31:01] the remaining 10%.

[7:31:04] As we look to continue to consolidate our applications, we currently project total unensurable

[7:31:11] public sector losses for the city of Edmonton to be $42 million, $600,000 in response

[7:31:17] and 41.4 in recovery, sorry, 41.4 million in recovery.

[7:31:24] We are maintaining a strict cost tracking process to ensure applications meet all

[7:31:29] provincial criteria for reimbursement.

[7:31:33] Despite the extraordinary stress on our systems as shared by EPCOR on Monday at Utility

[7:31:38] Committee, I'm reporting that the vast majority of our core infrastructure has allowed

[7:31:44] resources to reopen with few exceptions and the infrastructure is holding strong.

[7:31:50] As we navigate short-term operational response to these events, we are left with residual

[7:31:55] effects that require further and more detailed investigation.

[7:31:59] This includes slope failures, creek erosion, bridge and river valley infrastructure

[7:32:04] damage, as well as isolated damage in and around facilities.

[7:32:08] These residual effects will require long-term sustainable capital investment solutions to reduce

[7:32:15] the recurrence of similar challenges in future years.

[7:32:19] Rest assured we are actively working through these challenges and have stood up staff

[7:32:23] and resources to support addressing priority repairs.

[7:32:27] This presentation will provide further detail about the impact of how these weather events

[7:32:32] affected our existing capital program will also providing early details about new emerging projects

[7:32:39] that will require resources.

[7:32:43] Before I turn it over to staff to provide key updates on our

[7:32:46] capital infrastructure program I want to share the city's approach to managing construction risk

[7:32:51] on our projects in light of the significant weather events in 2026. Project risk related to weather

[7:32:59] very significantly, depending on the type of infrastructure and the stage of construction.

[7:33:04] There's no single answer that describes the effective extreme weather on our capital infrastructure program.

[7:33:11] For example, when building in building construction, technically known as vertical,

[7:33:17] where the site servicing is operational and the building envelope is closed, the impact of significant rainfall is very limited.

[7:33:24] construction work is able to continue through adverse weather conditions almost uninterrupted.

[7:33:30] An example of this is the Ambulced Integrated Site, which is now trending ahead of schedule.

[7:33:37] Bridge projects where work is suspended well above grade are also almost unaffected by rain.

[7:33:43] An example of this is Brev really bridge rehabilitation project where the scope of work is primarily related to the concrete deck repairs.

[7:33:51] The scope of work coupled with robust erosion and site maintenance plan allow it to rebound quickly only hours after rainfall event.

[7:34:00] This project is also nearing completion.

[7:34:04] By contrast, projects like roadworks, technically loan as horizontal or linear projects,

[7:34:10] that are in early stages of construction are generally more vulnerable to adverse weather conditions.

[7:34:17] Typically, the first stages of road construction include the construction of new underground infrastructure and earth works in grading activities, which may take days or longer to respond to rainfall events as contractor crews are tasked with de-watering or pumping activities to accelerate the work site drying period.

[7:34:35] That said, these are early construction activities.

[7:34:39] Their often remains a longer schedule to make up time through significant construction activities

[7:34:44] by collaborating on different or innovative staging options.

[7:34:48] It's typical for city contracts to designate or assign whether related risk and the loss

[7:34:54] of productivity from this risk to the contractor.

[7:34:57] This is intentional, as contractors are typically in the best position to prepare for and respond

[7:35:03] to bad weather by assigning resources and equipment to both anticipate and plan for and then

[7:35:09] ultimately support the response.

[7:35:11] This equally applies to temperature and precipitation conditions which can both have adverse

[7:35:16] effects on construction.

[7:35:19] Anticipating this and planning for this are project schedules generally do assume a certain

[7:35:24] amount of unproductive time within their plan construction schedule.

[7:35:27] This unplanned downtime is often explained in public messaging around project timelines as weather permitting.

[7:35:36] Recognizing is something we can't control or influence.

[7:35:39] We have successfully navigated several challenges to this midway point of this season.

[7:35:47] Notably recent rain events required us to pivot resources to address flooding and prioritize urgent repairs and safety-related projects.

[7:35:55] Despite these adjustments, we've made significant progress on the construction projects we launched this spring.

[7:36:02] As we turn our focus to the second half of this construction season, we are hopeful for improved environmental conditions to reduce any likelihood and impact associated with whether related events.

[7:36:15] With that context, we'll now walk you through some projects specific updates covering key completions, milestones and remaining work plan for the year I'll hand it over to Jason.

[7:36:25] Okay, thank you, Sarah.

[7:36:27] Our first project updates focus on the large LRT projects led by my colleague, Bruce Ferguson.

[7:36:33] Construction on the 14 kilometers of a valley line west LRT from downtown Ementon to Lewis

[7:36:38] Farms is currently in year 5 of major construction under a contractor merry-gold.

[7:36:43] For 2,026, a key milestone for this project includes completing the one-to-second

[7:36:49] corridor between one or two street, one or seven street, covering full-world reconstruction,

[7:36:54] new sidewalks, and track way redevelopment or development. Also for 2026, another key milestone

[7:37:01] for this project includes completing roadway, sidewalk, and core infrastructure improvements

[7:37:05] along the 87th corridor, specifically the section between 163rd Street and 189th Street.

[7:37:12] While Progress is steady, it is important to note that the weather conditions experienced earlier this

[7:37:16] summer have presented challenges for the contractor.

[7:37:20] Adverse weather has led to a prolonged duration for certain activities, most notably

[7:37:25] the preparation of road and track subgrade to achieve the required moisture content.

[7:37:30] A compaction standard is required for the project.

[7:37:33] Mary Gold is currently working on a recovery plan for the work scheduled to be complete by the end of

[7:37:38] 2026.

[7:37:40] Next slide, please.

[7:37:42] For the capital line's health extension, the contractor is now in its second year of major

[7:37:46] construction.

[7:37:47] Significant work is underway along 111th Street, 12th Avenue West access was closed and made

[7:37:53] to allow for the underground utility installation, civil infrastructure and track installation.

[7:37:59] this was recently re-opened on time on August 1st. The new LRT bridge across Blackwind Creek

[7:38:06] is taking shape with recent recent GERGER installation and bridge deck construction now

[7:38:11] underway. The 23rd Avenue LRT underpass construction is progressing and the contractor

[7:38:18] is ready to implement phase 2 of the major lane shift in September to prepare for the

[7:38:24] the portal construction. Work is also well underway on the Lou Lawrence Operations and Maintenance

[7:38:31] Facility with continued steel erection and roof installation underway. At the Anthony

[7:38:36] Hyundai Drive LRT bridge crossings steel delivery has begun and the steel arch will be assembled

[7:38:43] on-site prior to installation in early 2027. Due to the record rainfall and subsequent

[7:38:49] challenging site conditions. The contractor is assessing and prioritizing remaining work for the remaining

[7:38:56] 2026 construction season. It is anticipated that some of the original goals for 2026 will be pushed into

[7:39:04] winter construction or rescheduled for 2027. The exact impact of this, the rain events on this project,

[7:39:12] this multi-year project are still being reviewed. Next slide, please.

[7:39:18] Having only recently completed a comprehensive rehab of the Peter Hemingway Aquatic Center,

[7:39:24] which opened earlier this year, this facility did experience recurring flooding.

[7:39:31] The facility remains under warranty and the product team, including the contractor and the product architect,

[7:39:36] are assessing solutions both in the short term to reopen and in the long term to prevent recurrence of this activity.

[7:39:43] Consecutive storm events caused extreme ground saturation and increased groundwater pressure as well as a surge of water in the area storm water network that

[7:39:53] that became overwhelmed, overwhelmed a lot of the existing and upgraded infrastructure only recently constructed.

[7:40:02] We are implementing immediate changes to the facility based on our lessons learned from the rainfall events.

[7:40:07] This includes relocating the main electrical services to the facility to ensure that they're in a location more resilient to future extreme weather.

[7:40:17] A team of including city departments, consultants, and contractors is working together to execute repairs and accelerate reopening this fall while simultaneously investigating further root causes and potential solutions relating to the stormwater resilience within the coordination park.

[7:40:34] Next slide.

[7:40:38] The telescope world of science building remains temporarily closed following the significant flooding of it in July.

[7:40:44] Restoration work is currently underway on the city owned building, focusing on removal and site recovery in collaboration with our partner operator that at the telescope.

[7:40:54] The restoration efforts are being that managed through our insurance coverage with the city by Minton.

[7:41:00] As managed on the previous slide, in reference to the Hemingway Aquatic Center, Infrastructure

[7:41:05] Services is leading a root cause investigation within the broader area of the Coronation

[7:41:09] Park to identify issues and develop long-term solutions.

[7:41:15] Project resources have been assigned and procurement of an engineering consultant is underway

[7:41:19] in the coming weeks.

[7:41:21] This work is part of an integrated cross-site investigation into the stormwater resilience

[7:41:26] encompassing the telescope world of science, coordination park, and the peer Hemingway Aquatic

[7:41:30] Center to ensure the long-term stability across all those facilities and public services maintained.

[7:41:38] The telescope world of science has been providing regular updates to patrons and customers

[7:41:42] relating to their planned reopening timeframes. Next slide.

[7:41:49] The Lewis Farm's project is

[7:41:50] progressing well with the Mr. High Eye Weekook Community Rec Center. The rain has pushed the schedule

[7:41:57] for completing the landscaping outside the facility, however this work is not on the critical

[7:42:02] path for this project and is not interfering with the planned construction completion

[7:42:06] date. In a recent review of the detailed construction forecasts, we are now anticipating

[7:42:12] that the construction could be substantially complete for this project as early as this time

[7:42:17] next year. Knowing this, the project team, including staff from community services, are actively

[7:42:23] working on reviewing opportunities to advance the opening for the facility earlier than previously

[7:42:28] anticipated.

[7:42:32] Next slide.

[7:42:33] The Inclimate Weather Experience throughout June and July has impacted the ill-heter ill-free

[7:42:38] way project, scheduled by approximately six weeks.

[7:42:43] The weather conditions has reduced site productivity, leading to frequent interruptions in

[7:42:48] earthworks, utility installations, and road construction activities.

[7:42:51] These delays are directly attributed to the ongoing water management, constant de-watering,

[7:42:59] site stabilization, and restoration efforts following each of the storm events that we experienced.

[7:43:05] To mitigate those ongoing effects impacts, the team has established a work site designed for rapid recovery after flooding events.

[7:43:13] We've successfully reduced the construction footprint near the EPS,

[7:43:17] to a lot recently which provided additional space for storage of tow vehicles.

[7:43:22] We've also re-opened the northbound to eastbound right turning movement at 107th Street

[7:43:27] to help ease the traffic flow in the area.

[7:43:31] Looking ahead, the project is preparing for two broader milestones for this project.

[7:43:36] The first includes 127th Street traffic transitioning from the detour road

[7:43:40] onto the new bridge structure, expected to occur later this fall.

[7:43:44] The second is completing the new roadway alignment of 121 Street.

[7:43:50] This one will require leveraging lessons learned from the value line LRT West project

[7:43:54] and accelerating this work by closing a section of 121 Street and diverting traffic to

[7:44:00] 1-07 Street intersection where we will be adding a Westbound left turn and an additional

[7:44:06] northbound left turn to accommodate the displaced traffic.

[7:44:10] This work is expected to be complete by the end of November.

[7:44:15] It is important to acknowledge that the issues of flooding both this year and in previous year's

[7:44:20] are directly attributed to the existing stormwater network within the area and not attributed to the construction.

[7:44:27] For example, something being taken out of service for construction.

[7:44:32] The scope of the project does include a significant amount of stormwater upgrades within the area.

[7:44:38] There's a lot of work that's unseen to the public eye and killing tunneling work, which is expected to address many of the stormwater network constraints that exists within the stormwater system in the long-term.

[7:44:51] Unfortunately, the tunneling work is not yet complete, it's scheduled to be open and in service later this fall.

[7:45:00] Looking ahead, the project team has been reviewing strategies to bring the project back on schedule. An example of this is the plan closure of 1121 Street, this coming Monday for approximately three months.

[7:45:11] The 107 Street intersection is being enhanced with the Westbound left turn and do a left northbound left turn to accommodate the displaced traffic as previously mentioned.

[7:45:20] This accelerated work is much akin to the lessons learned from the Valley Line West accelerated intersection closure work.

[7:45:26] Next slide.

[7:45:31] Twilger's Stage 2 is now in its final construction season.

[7:45:35] The heavy rain did cause landslides along white-by-drive located at 119th Street, and the

[7:45:40] contractor was able to assist city staff with resources to stabilize the area, allowing the

[7:45:46] roadway to be maintained and open service.

[7:45:51] I'm pleased to share that the two new pedestrian bridges are now in service as part of Stage

[7:45:54] 2, including the Rainbow Valley Bridge across White Mud Creek, and the 142th Street,

[7:45:59] 142 Street Pedestrian Bridge over white mud drive.

[7:46:03] The dedicated bus lane located along connecting 53rd Avenue to Twiliger Drive was also opened in June

[7:46:09] and is already in service by ETS. Waterproofing and paving on the Eastbound Rainbow Valley Bridge

[7:46:15] was also recently complete and the bridge opened this week, a significant milestone for the project.

[7:46:23] Cruise will continue to use staged lane closures in both directions along white mud drive

[7:46:28] to complete the final media and barrier construction,

[7:46:32] paving and other works as needed.

[7:46:34] Overall, the project is on track to wrap up this year,

[7:46:38] with landscaping only and other seasonal deficiencies

[7:46:40] carried over into 2027.

[7:46:43] Next slide, please.

[7:46:46] Construction on Twilger Stage 3 began this spring with

[7:46:49] completion set for fall of 2028.

[7:46:51] Construction at Windermere Intersection is ongoing

[7:46:54] until the end of the construction season,

[7:46:56] with various traffic configurations in place

[7:46:58] to support carefully sequenced work.

[7:47:01] As of Monday, this past Monday,

[7:47:04] Lane Changes have been implemented to work

[7:47:05] on the final stages of the intersection at Whitman,

[7:47:08] our Windermir Boulevard.

[7:47:10] We are making progress on the grading

[7:47:11] for the new northbound lanes.

[7:47:13] I'll be at not at the pace of originally planned

[7:47:15] earlier this year.

[7:47:16] This is largely due to the wet weather conditions

[7:47:18] we've experienced.

[7:47:21] On the bridge structure site, bridge piling for the main structure,

[7:47:24] started in June and is ongoing per the baseline schedule.

[7:47:28] and bridgepiling on the shared use path bridge located for their east has also

[7:47:32] commenced. His piling work is more resilient to weather and has largely been

[7:47:37] unaffected by the weather. That said, based on the stage of this work and early

[7:47:41] works being primarily grading, it has created challenging site conditions for

[7:47:46] the project. It isn't anticipated that some of the original plan 2026 work will be

[7:47:51] pushed into the winter construction season or a reschedule for 2027. However,

[7:47:57] While recent rainfall events have caused delays in the short-term, I will remind Council that this is a multi-year project,

[7:48:04] and we still remain on track to complete the remaining professors of this project.

[7:48:08] The critical path for this project is the bridge construction, not the road work,

[7:48:12] and as mentioned, the piling activities are progressing as planned.

[7:48:17] Next slide, please.

[7:48:20] The Wellington Bridge Replacement began last fall in 2025 with the demolition of the old bridge.

[7:48:25] Thankfully, we were able to have the bridge girders erected earlier this spring in June.

[7:48:31] The time during the rain was spent primarily on setting form work, preparing for the concrete deck pour,

[7:48:38] which remained largely unaffected by the rain.

[7:48:41] The contractor did have to make adjustments within the site to secure both the head and side slopes,

[7:48:47] recognizing it is on an open ravine.

[7:48:50] That is also environmentally sensitive.

[7:48:52] of the new concrete deck was recently poured a few weeks ago.

[7:48:56] This is a huge, again, a big milestone for that project and provides us the assurance and comfort that this project is moving ahead as originally planned and will be re-opened this fall.

[7:49:08] The project team has prioritized the remaining work for this project in the event of further rainfall events, starting with re-opening the travel lanes, this is the number one priority.

[7:49:18] re-opening the north side bike lane, re-opening the south side sidewalk, followed lastly by the re-opening of the ravine trail underneath the bridge.

[7:49:26] Our goal is to help all of those completed this fall, but failing that, that's the sequence in which the contractors have been directed to complete the work.

[7:49:35] Next slide please.

[7:49:38] 95th Avenue renewal is in its second year and final year, and second phase of construction, the north side being completed last year.

[7:49:45] The contractor is now working on the self-site of the roadway.

[7:49:50] Adverse weather, rain and floods, has impeded the overall progress of this year's

[7:49:53] scope of work.

[7:49:54] The roadway is expected to open in the fall despite the impact of inclement weather.

[7:49:59] A significant contributor to the delays on the project are attributed to the low impact

[7:50:03] development work, scope of work with this project, which requires deep and large excavations

[7:50:09] and a significant amount of manual work that is heavily weather dependent.

[7:50:13] to address this, the low impact development work, has been modified in order to accelerate the schedule.

[7:50:21] The project team has been in close contact with the schools in the area, recognizing it's back to school,

[7:50:27] this coming weekend, or the coming week, using lessons learned from previous years to ensure that we are ready

[7:50:33] for the change in traffic anticipated starting next week.

[7:50:36] The project team is continuing to monitor community traffic impacts as well, including short cutting behavior

[7:50:42] and traffic calming measures.

[7:50:45] The project is forecast to be complete this fall.

[7:50:49] Next slide.

[7:50:52] The deck construction on the Mill Creek

[7:50:54] and 76 Avenue Bridge is underway and expected

[7:50:59] to be complete this fall.

[7:51:01] Repairs are ongoing for a July landslide

[7:51:05] that occurred in the southwest quadrant

[7:51:07] to ensure that the structural integrity

[7:51:09] to ensure the structural integrity

[7:51:11] of the new bridge and road.

[7:51:13] The weather-related event, sorry, the landslide that was experienced, that weather-related event has required modifications to the contractor's sequence and project resourcing, resulting in minor schedule impacts.

[7:51:27] The contractor has brought in additional resources to ensure that the critical path, which is the bridges, can continue unaffected.

[7:51:35] The project is still in track to be completed this fall.

[7:51:41] Lastly, turning to our land development portfolio led by Chris Hodgson, record rainfall and severe weather events throughout the first half of the construction season,

[7:51:51] have impacted construction progress across several active sites, including good rich corners,

[7:51:56] blackford and exhibition lands. Because these delays have affected our ability to complete servicing and preparation work,

[7:52:02] We are seeing a shift in our land sale timelines.

[7:52:07] To manage this, we are evaluating the revised schedules.

[7:52:11] As a result, some landscape sails that were originally forecast

[7:52:14] or anticipated to close in 2026 are now forecast to be pushed into 2027.

[7:52:20] We are working closely with our contractors to mitigate further schedule slippage

[7:52:24] and where possible will continue to keep Council informed and updated

[7:52:28] as we finalize these.

[7:52:30] I will now turn it over to Pascal who will take us through some of the new and unplanned infrastructure projects, as a result, direct result of the weather related events earlier this summer.

[7:52:44] Thanks, Jason.

[7:52:45] Okay, so as identified, we have a few examples of new and emerging projects.

[7:52:53] So first, the city is continuing to work with AppCore to respond to the significant erosion that has affected 137th Avenue at Horsew Creek.

[7:53:04] The city's immediate priority is to safely restore vehicle access by replacing the culvert stabilizing the slopes and rebuilding the roadway.

[7:53:12] AppCore has been leading the initial response and will fund the remediation work while the city will manage a construction moving forward.

[7:53:18] Then you call avert will have much greater capacity and will allow for pedestrian and active modes to cross the creek.

[7:53:26] Traffic is being monitored in the detour area through the Starling neighborhood to mitigate speeding and best handle the volume.

[7:53:33] Temporary speed check signs and traffic calming measures have been installed.

[7:53:37] A contractor has been awarded the work and construction completion is targeted by late fall or early winter.

[7:53:44] The high-level bridge southeast approach in bank mint side slope has experienced significant movements.

[7:53:52] The slope is cracking away from the sidewalk and altering its stability.

[7:53:56] As a result, and to mitigate the risks, the sidewalk and left turning lane are closed until remediation can take place.

[7:54:03] Preparations are underway to advance the stabilization of the slope and the timing of this work is under consideration and will be coordinated with the high level and low-level bridge renewal work to minimize disruptions to the traveling public.

[7:54:16] Timing will be confirmed in the coming months and communicated to Council.

[7:54:21] Compliance to the closure has been poor and we have seen repeated incidents of barricade vandalism.

[7:54:27] We asked the public to respect the closures as they are in place for safety reasons.

[7:54:33] Monitoring both visual and with instrumentation in the roadway and sidewalk is occurring weekly.

[7:54:41] Moving to the northwest approach of the high-level bridge was also affected by the rain events.

[7:54:47] A localized flow-slide failure occurred adjacent to constable in Zio for only park.

[7:54:53] The numerous rainfall following rainfalls led to its incremental progression.

[7:54:58] EPCOR is advancing planning and designed to restore a proper drainage network connection in the area,

[7:55:04] and construction will be coordinated with the high-level rehabilitation and the southeast embankment repairs.

[7:55:11] The sidewalk is open and safe for use, and monitoring inspections are occurring biweekly,

[7:55:15] or after any significant rain event.

[7:55:20] Several other locations across the city have been damaged or impacted by the rain events.

[7:55:24] We have seen embankment failures occur along freeway, over and underpasses such as the

[7:55:30] white mud drive in Connors Road.

[7:55:33] Prenounced landslides in the River Valley and the ravine system, with the most significance

[7:55:37] one affecting city infrastructure, having so far occurred below Saskatchewan Drive.

[7:55:43] In many areas of the city, trails have suffered damages.

[7:55:47] In some instances, minor repairs are possible to maintain the trail open.

[7:55:51] However, in other areas, the failures are to the point of reinstatement not being feasible.

[7:55:56] Some alignments and routes will need to be abandoned.

[7:56:01] Finally, many bridge abutments have been subject to erosion and scour,

[7:56:06] and we continue to do frequent assessments and monitoring.

[7:56:14] Administration is prioritizing repair based on priority impacts to the overall transportation networks.

[7:56:20] resource availability and looking at the opportunity to combine the

[7:56:24] remediation with other plan projects to minimize disruptions.

[7:56:29] Over to Sarah.

[7:56:32] Just I wanted to note, I made a mistake at the beginning when I talked about the recovery.

[7:56:38] So our submission to harp is estimated to total 42 million.

[7:56:43] 41.4 million is response and 600K is recovery.

[7:56:47] I had response and recovery flipped the amount, while the summer severe weather created

[7:56:56] challenges, several key projects have reached completion or significant milestones.

[7:57:01] These include 102 and 104 street intersection downtown, Commonwealth Stadium and Fieldhouse

[7:57:08] Artificial Turfernuel, Dawson Bridge, Rehab, and the Rainbow Valley in 142nd Street

[7:57:15] for pedestrian bridges.

[7:57:17] We are currently passed the midpoint of our construction season,

[7:57:20] and while many milestones have been met,

[7:57:23] we must acknowledge the impacts that are not fully,

[7:57:26] are not yet fully realized.

[7:57:28] We are actively managing the uncertainties

[7:57:30] of the coming months to determine our path forward.

[7:57:33] Our priority remains clear to adapt to these conditions

[7:57:36] and do with everything within our control

[7:57:38] to catch up and meet our year in targets.

[7:57:41] Thank you.

[7:57:44] Thank you and I see we're right at time, so we will have a recess and then when we come back at 6pm we will hear from members of the public that have registered to speak on this item.

[7:58:01] So that's where we're at, but for right now we'll have our dinner break and be back at 6pm.

[9:00:36] Does somebody have me some? Oh, yep. Okay. And I will start with a roll call of committee members and Councillor Salvedor. Good evening. Councillor Clark.

[9:00:51] Good evening. Councillor Piquette.

[9:01:00] Councillor Jabs and Mayor Nack.

[9:01:11] No, okay. And we are

[9:01:14] joined by other Council colleagues including Councillor Palmer who is still in chamber

[9:01:20] with us right now. And right before recess, we had heard the presentation on 7.1 impacts

[9:01:27] of weather events and we do have some speakers registered on this item. I don't know if they

[9:01:33] are still with us given where we are in this thing, but I have David, I'm guessing all is a panel

[9:01:43] same as we've done before right for one panel David Johnson are you I see you're online

[9:01:50] okay perfect Ryan Christensen yes someone line perfect wrath tender and uh yeah

[9:01:59] President thank you Carolyn Oze to Oze to Duke Oze to Duke

[9:02:07] Carolyn was unable to make it due to the

[9:02:08] I mean, unfortunately.

[9:02:10] I understand.

[9:02:11] And then, fell in.

[9:02:14] Shellingberg?

[9:02:16] Yeah, I'm here.

[9:02:17] Okay, perfect.

[9:02:19] Well, you know, if you're just joining, I'll just give you a recap.

[9:02:22] We've actually switched our orders to just have three minutes speaking time and then three

[9:02:26] minutes for counselor questions just so we can get through pretty packed agenda.

[9:02:33] So we will start with three minutes each and then after we've asked you, after you've done your presentations,

[9:02:38] We may have questions for you.

[9:02:40] So we'll start with David, please go ahead first.

[9:02:47] Thank you.

[9:02:49] Councillor Rotterdam.

[9:02:50] Good evening.

[9:02:51] Chair, members of the committee.

[9:02:53] My name is David Johnson.

[9:02:54] I'm the president of the Edmonton Construction Association.

[9:02:57] I'm speaking quick to make the three-minute timeline.

[9:03:01] So I'm brief yesterday that you see a representative of the industrial commercial and institutional construction sector in the Edmonton region.

[9:03:07] Many of our members help deliver public infrastructure and intelligence rely on every day that includes

[9:03:13] roads, produce, underground utilities, drainage work, concrete, asphalt, public building and

[9:03:19] neighborhood renewal among other things.

[9:03:22] I'm here today to provide an industry perspective on what contractors are staying on the ground,

[9:03:27] particularly as it relates to other works and infrastructure projects.

[9:03:31] I mean, those are used to working in adverse weather conditions, I mean, we work outside quite often.

[9:03:40] And most of the projects have built-in and scheduled contingencies for a lot of these types of events.

[9:03:46] This has been a normal, wet construction season.

[9:03:52] So the public reporting is shown that immigrants received more than 530 mls of rain in June and July.

[9:03:56] This is a record setting amount as we all know and that's in a very short construction window that we that we have and the greater

[9:04:03] I'm can reach in

[9:04:05] For infrastructure projects, the issue is not only rain itself, the larger issue is what the rain leaves behind

[9:04:11] So when it comes saturated, work does not automatically return to normal once the sky clears

[9:04:16] Exhibitions may need to be pumped trenches, inspected access routes might be too soft for equipment, base material might not be ready for compassion

[9:04:24] And there might be some re-sequencing of work for the next activity can proceed.

[9:04:29] So this is why projects are be affected by rain even on a sunny day.

[9:04:33] I'm going to skip ahead a little bit. I just try to keep on time here.

[9:04:39] What we're hearing from our members is the impact of very bright project and by scope of work.

[9:04:43] So some contractors reporting delays are backlogs of several weeks.

[9:04:47] However, it was noted in the presentation that many of the current immunospolental

[9:04:52] pressure projects, despite the delays, are still on track, which would be a testament

[9:04:58] to the hard work that is put in at the contract level of course, and in communication

[9:05:04] with the city.

[9:05:06] These are obviously core parts of immunospolental pressure delivery, but there are also activities

[9:05:10] were safety and quality cannot be compromised. So you can't properly open up pay over on

[9:05:15] the table base. You can't recover lost time simply by asking people to work faster.

[9:05:20] You can't take no chance safety. Again, that doesn't mean the contractors are standing still.

[9:05:25] We're moving forward. The city manager teams are working through the same realities. So again,

[9:05:31] the coordination between the city is project owner, the contractors are subcontractors and

[9:05:35] utilities become really important. And I think for taxpayer funded infrastructure that really

[9:05:40] So I think the key point is after a rainfall of the scale, the construction of cover is

[9:05:44] measured not only by when the rain stops, but it's measured by when the ground, the site,

[9:05:48] the sequence of work that already is safe to proceed. I think that's my time.

[9:05:52] Thank you. Yes. I appreciate you adjusting your presentation.

[9:05:56] There may be questions as I mentioned before. Now we go to Speaker Ryan Christensen.

[9:06:05] Good afternoon. All of just as well. So my name is Ryan Christensen. I'm here today as chair

[9:06:11] the Board of the Edmonton Construction Association. The ECN represents hundreds of contractors,

[9:06:16] trade partners, consultants, suppliers, and construction professionals. Construction in

[9:06:21] Alberta has always been seasonal and whether has always been part of our business. We plan

[9:06:25] for it, we don't contingencies around it, but what we experience this summer, just like David

[9:06:30] has mentioned, and it's been mentioned by Jason and others, is that this summer is not typical

[9:06:36] construction water. Frequency and intensity of rainfall created conditions that affected virtually

[9:06:42] every project underway in eminent. Whether as a lack facility, a school, a healthcare

[9:06:46] project, a commercial development, housing project, or critical infrastructure, contract

[9:06:51] space, repeated weather events that left little opportunity for sites to recover between

[9:06:55] storms. Saturated ground conditions delayed excavation foundations, underground services, concrete

[9:07:01] placement, exterior work, and site development. So what made this year particularly challenging

[9:07:06] There's not a single storm around, again, like David mentioned, but the key little of effect

[9:07:10] of weeks of disruption.

[9:07:11] Construction schedules are highly interconnected as we all know.

[9:07:15] When one activity is delayed, every activity that follows is affected.

[9:07:18] The result is a cascading effect on labor, materials, productivity, and ultimately project delivery.

[9:07:24] So time lost in July is not easily recovered later in the season,

[9:07:27] and often results in increased costs and reduced.

[9:07:30] The broader concern for our issue is that what was once considered exceptional is becoming increasingly common, as we discuss climate resilience and the future of our infrastructure, we must also discuss the resilience of the construction systems responsible for delivering that infrastructure.

[9:07:48] And that conversation must include fair risk allocation.

[9:07:51] Construction contracts are most successful when risks are assigned to the parties

[9:07:55] best able to manage them. Contractors can manage labor, productivity, and construction

[9:08:00] methods, but no contractor can manage record-grained follow-up for a long-to-better event.

[9:08:05] One other move is beyond what could reasonably have been anticipated. The focus should not be

[9:08:09] on which party absorbs the impact should be on how project partners work together to overcome

[9:08:13] that. So fair risk allocation creates stronger partnerships needing a better project

[9:08:17] outcomes which will provide better value for customers. The ECA and its members are proud partners

[9:08:22] in building the city, we're not seeking special treatment, we're asking for recognition

[9:08:26] that the conditions experience the summer, we're sure they're extraordinary and they're

[9:08:31] impacts are real and that our approach to delivering project must continue to evolve alongside

[9:08:35] the changing reality as we face. So I guess my, my request today is continuing engagement

[9:08:41] and within the industry stakeholders, including ECA in discussions about how extreme weather risks

[9:08:46] or address and project planning, procurement, and contract delivery.

[9:08:50] BCS stands ready to work alongside the city's administration and industry partners to identify

[9:08:55] practical solutions, because successful projects are an auto-cheered one-quarter carries

[9:09:00] on a list where a cheered one of the risk is under state allocated fairly and managed collectively.

[9:09:06] Thank you.

[9:09:08] Rath, please go ahead.

[9:09:14] Good evening, Chair and members of the Infrastructure Committee.

[9:09:18] My name is Raph Kendorenda, I live in Starling and Wired in the ISCA, where I also serve as the president for the big-lay community league.

[9:09:28] Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

[9:09:30] I want to acknowledge that it's been a long day for Council and committee members with significant discussion around active transportation.

[9:09:37] So I appreciate the opportunity to raise this issue.

[9:09:41] I want to ask for clarity regarding the reconstruction of 137th Ave at Horseshoe Creek.

[9:09:46] concerns with that crossing did not begin with the failure this summer. By 2024, F4 had acknowledged that the existing 800 male callver was undersized and that erosion was expanding.

[9:10:02] That effort asset was not corrected before it failed, so when it did fail, the consequences

[9:10:10] extended directly to city of infrastructure, the pedestrian bridge was closed first,

[9:10:16] then 137th Ave was lost, a large garage formed through the crossing.

[9:10:21] That demonstrates how a deficiency in a utility own asset can have major consequences for city

[9:10:27] infrastructure, transportation and public safety.

[9:10:30] I appreciate the recent update through Councillor Reed Clark's office that indicates that

[9:10:36] 90% design was completed August 21st.

[9:10:40] Environmental permitting is being finalized and the city is expecting to take over from

[9:10:46] the site from that core August 31st.

[9:10:49] Construction is anticipated to take approximately nine weeks, whether dependent, by first

[9:10:55] answer and schedule, a nine-week reconstruction is pretty tight that that will lead us to

[9:11:03] quite late fall. So I would ask the committee through administration. What work must be

[9:11:09] completed this fall for 137th out the need to open safely and what is the community plan

[9:11:15] of weather, permitting, or construction delays prevent this from happening. If this project cannot

[9:11:22] be completed before winter.

[9:11:24] What would that mean for reopening one 37-a-half

[9:11:28] and securing the site?

[9:11:30] There's also traffic concerns.

[9:11:33] School starts next week.

[9:11:34] So I'm in drive.

[9:11:35] Wasn't intended to take long, long-term deepwares.

[9:11:41] I would ask an administration

[9:11:42] to consider whether additional traffic measures

[9:11:44] or safety measures are required

[9:11:45] while one 37-a-a for means closed.

[9:11:48] Finally, I want to raise one specific issue.

[9:11:50] In May 2023, Councilor Andrew Nack now may air.

[9:11:55] Public via advised residents at guardrails would be coming up on the north side of the

[9:11:59] crossing.

[9:12:01] I chile with the PM, the city PM said that's not going to be there.

[9:12:04] So I just want to see why there is no guardrails on that was promised.

[9:12:09] That creek is very steep at that angle or at that spot.

[9:12:13] It's roughly 20 meters deep and that will not have time.

[9:12:16] So thanks.

[9:12:19] Thank you.

[9:12:20] And as we mentioned to other speakers recognizing the shorter times, there may be questions for you to finish your thoughts there.

[9:12:29] And then we go to our final speaker on this item,

[9:12:36] Fallen Schellenberg.

[9:12:41] So, good evening. My name is Fallen Schellenberg.

[9:12:43] And I'm speaking today on behalf of the Edmonton Construction Association and providing perspective as a local business owner

[9:12:49] in an Edmonton civil and paving construction industry.

[9:12:52] This summer's extreme rainfall has been exceptional as mentioned.

[9:12:55] Repeated storms have saturated the soils,

[9:12:58] strained a water system, and less little time for sites

[9:13:00] roads and infrastructure corridors to dry out.

[9:13:03] All residents have faced flood-setted roads,

[9:13:06] traffic disruptions, and drainage issues.

[9:13:08] The construction industry has faced a similar crisis across civil infrastructure project

[9:13:12] citywide.

[9:13:13] So contractors, building roads, utilities, sidewalks, parking lots,

[9:13:17] So what neighborhood renewals productivity has dropped sharply.

[9:13:22] Cruises of spend days pumping water from excavations instead of installing infrastructure.

[9:13:27] Trenches ready one day were under water the next forcing repeated regrating, water removal, disposal

[9:13:32] of what materials and stabilization just to regain access.

[9:13:36] Utility work has been significantly delayed by groundwater, standing water, and unstable trenches.

[9:13:40] Paving crews have been mobilized only to be shut down because asphalt cannot be placed in rain

[9:13:45] wet surfaces while concrete crews have lost production days due to the conditions compromised

[9:13:50] by quality and curing.

[9:13:52] Project plan for July are now being pushed into Lake August, September or beyond, and in

[9:13:56] some cases all canceled together.

[9:13:59] Municipal road rehabs industrial sites, parking lots, subdivisions, utility upgrades have all

[9:14:03] been affected with each delay creating a domino effect to the next trade, contractor, and

[9:14:08] ultimately the owner.

[9:14:09] The concern is not simply about this used delays, saturated and uncompacted soils can have

[9:14:14] long-term consequences for pavement performance and infrastructure longevity.

[9:14:18] Today shortcuts become tomorrow's pop holes, settlement issues, and costly repairs.

[9:14:23] The financial impacts are equally a significant equipment,

[9:14:26] sit idle, and contractors absorb the cost by pumping,

[9:14:28] hauling, imported aggregates, pork compaction,

[9:14:31] geotechnical testing, and rework.

[9:14:33] Some sites have daily pumping simply just to maintain safe conditions.

[9:14:37] Contractors are also trying to recover loss production and ongoing labor shortages.

[9:14:41] when whether it compresses months of work into shorter construction windows, competition for skilled laborers and operators become a major concern for companies.

[9:14:52] On behalf of the Advancing Construction Association, I encourage the city to continue working with the industry and recognize the extraordinary impact.

[9:15:00] These extreme weather conditions have had. Flexibility known schedules, contract administration and sequencing will help the projects be completed safely and to be expected with quality standards.

[9:15:11] Thank you for consideration.

[9:15:14] Thank you.

[9:15:15] And I'll look to committee and council if they have any questions for our panel of speakers on this item.

[9:15:25] Councillor Clarke?

[9:15:28] Yeah, I'll just go back to you, did I miss anything here because I'll ask him in some

[9:15:32] of the questions you had about just the timelines 137, the guardrails, and just traffic

[9:15:39] calming.

[9:15:40] Was there anything else?

[9:15:42] If they could publicly let us know who the consultant is, the design consultant, and the

[9:15:47] contractor, apparently, and they'd be selected, so that could be communicated on the website.

[9:15:52] I'll be great.

[9:15:53] Okay.

[9:15:53] Actually, I have the list as well.

[9:15:55] Okay.

[9:15:55] Thank you.

[9:15:57] Thanks.

[9:15:59] Thank you.

[9:16:00] And I just had a couple of questions.

[9:16:02] I'm going to go to hit to Ryan Christensen.

[9:16:04] Just wanted to get clarity on your points.

[9:16:09] So when we think about what happens today versus what happens tomorrow,

[9:16:14] I'm seeing that there's a desire for sort of a bit of a change in how projects are contracted.

[9:16:23] It is, was that my understanding correct in listening to you speak, around extreme weather

[9:16:28] risk?

[9:16:30] Yeah, similar to one of the last points that Fallen made was it comes down to risk allocation

[9:16:36] and the city has done a better job over the last several years on working on collaborative

[9:16:41] contract models and delivery models and that's all we're really encouraging us to continue

[9:16:47] down that road and have open communication and be mindful of the fact that a lot of people

[9:16:56] will look at a project or their area or their neighborhood in a vacuum and say I know

[9:17:01] that all these things have happened but this is my project and I want it to be different

[9:17:07] I want it to be unique I want the water pump out of my site and so really it's looking

[9:17:12] at it from a big picture lens and working together collaboratively to come up with.

[9:17:16] Like found said, a solution that's not going to get it done, the quickest necessarily, but one that's going to satisfy quality standards for years to come.

[9:17:27] And being understanding of what that schedule potential moving it into 2027, what that could be in a schedule extension, what it means to move some of the work from summer to winter.

[9:17:39] the impact that has on the contractors from a cost perspective when you get into winter construction.

[9:17:45] So some of those things just need to be considered.

[9:17:48] Not saying they aren't.

[9:17:50] I would just say that you need to continue to work together and make sure that there's a fair risk allocation across the table.

[9:17:58] Thank you.

[9:17:59] And then I just wanted to go to Mr. Johnson.

[9:18:01] I thought your representation was really interesting about, you know, even if it's a sunny day.

[9:18:06] Because of previous rain, it might not have the conditions for why they're not working on site.

[9:18:12] And I hear that a lot from Edmontonians around the fact that like it's nice weather and they're not out doing the construction.

[9:18:18] I wanted you to just elaborate on like, you know, from what you've observed in Edmonton,

[9:18:24] are we maximizing the available time to do the work or is there more efficiencies to be had there?

[9:18:34] Yeah, and thank you, of course, you're right, so the public kind of looks and they see sunshine.

[9:18:39] They wonder why the work has it fully resumed.

[9:18:41] I think the key point is that the construction depends on the site conditions, not just the weather forecast.

[9:18:46] So a site might still need some pumping, drying, and protection before the next phase can safely proceed.

[9:18:51] And sometimes the previous school or trade specialty might have been scheduled in at specific time.

[9:19:01] And then their schedule for another project down the road, so they might have to leave that and the whole project kind of backs up. There's a bit of the cascading effect.

[9:19:09] I think that reinforces the importance of resilient infrastructure, though. Whether you're having a site this, they certainly make things more complex, but they show why trainage roads, utilities, needs to be able to properly and maintain over the long term and not rushed.

[9:19:23] That's great. Thank you so much. Any other questions of our speakers? Well, I definitely think I speak on behalf of my colleagues when I say thank you so much for sticking with us. Thank you for being here and and taking the time to join us this evening.

[9:19:39] And we'll now go to questions of administration and please go ahead Councillor Clark. I think you selected this item. Correct.

[9:19:46] I might have.

[9:19:47] I might have.

[9:19:48] I think you did.

[9:19:50] Okay.

[9:19:50] Yeah.

[9:19:51] I'll just go to, I mean, just some of the questions that that we're off kind of brought up.

[9:19:54] Just so we do have a little clarity, just on the opening date for the 1-3-7-5-9 weeks.

[9:20:00] I guess what is the backup plan that is asking if we can't get that done this year?

[9:20:05] Yeah.

[9:20:05] I'd say the backup plan is it's still going to get open.

[9:20:08] And right now, you know, I solicit Snowwood in September, which hasn't happened in a long time.

[9:20:16] But we would make sure that it's open either with temporary asphalt or some kind of gravel surface.

[9:20:21] Obviously, these are kind of worst case scenarios.

[9:20:23] Our target is to still get the entire job done this year.

[9:20:27] Nine weeks is not unreasonable for this.

[9:20:30] And we've been assured we've got actually got a contractor on board who's actually informing us of the schedule.

[9:20:33] this isn't just the city of Edmonton, and of course, guessing on a schedule, we've got a contractor who is already on board helping inform what that schedule looks like.

[9:20:42] And is that public info that we're the contractors yet?

[9:20:45] Yeah, yeah.

[9:20:46] We've shared that.

[9:20:47] I'd have to double check if it's on our website, but we, of course, had a design consultant.

[9:20:53] We fired a contractor, kind of utilizing some of the emergency provisions that we have on our trade agreements.

[9:20:59] we can direct source that work. So we have a contractor who is actually locally very close from

[9:21:05] real park without naming names. So we've got someone who is very, very close to the site. And

[9:21:11] they've been helping to kind of the big question mark that had been kind of informing our next

[9:21:17] steps that had been trying to assess what size of culvert. And then we could start to secure

[9:21:21] and source materials from that. And the contractor is prepared to kind of take this on and has

[9:21:27] resources and we feel reasonably comfortable that this is going to be open.

[9:21:34] And I'll ask question about the guardrails. I've seen before my time, so I don't really

[9:21:37] have a lot of detail on that.

[9:21:40] Yeah, so the design is still being finalized. I know the team will assess it and if they

[9:21:45] find without knowing kind of the side slopes being proposed for this new culvert because obviously

[9:21:51] that drives the length of the culvert that we would need to be able to put in place. If

[9:21:55] If we determine as part of that work that putting up guardrails is cheaper than extending

[9:22:00] the side slopes, because often those are a product of each other, not to get in too much

[9:22:04] detail.

[9:22:05] But effectively, if we have shorter or more steeper side slopes, we have to use guardrails if

[9:22:09] it's more flatter, and there's more runoff space, we perhaps don't need to really depends

[9:22:13] on the geometry of the crossing and a lot of different things.

[9:22:17] So all that's being worked on, if we need to put guardrails in, we'll put guardrails in.

[9:22:22] And last of just on the traffic, I think I kind of got this answer because I know they've been installed and I did a walk with the community and they were maybe looking for some other

[9:22:30] Placement on things. But is that still, we're going to assess how it goes and then look at those options? Is that still where it's at?

[9:22:36] Councillor Carkins, can't we have us to the parks and our services? So yes, we'll continue to monitor, we have the speed

[9:22:42] monitoring and places as well as some of the collection data. We will, once school starts and once

[9:22:48] construction starts, we'll continue to monitor if we need to do additional changes with either

[9:22:52] what's in place or add another features we will do that. Thank you.

[9:23:00] Thank you, Councillor Clarke.

[9:23:07] I'll start with the broad question and then I'll go into specifics.

[9:23:10] You said that there's insurance claims that you're making on some of these impacts and

[9:23:16] I just wanted to know, are we anticipating premium increases that will need to be considered

[9:23:22] in the next four year budget as a result of all of these insurance claims?

[9:23:30] We have managed a co-ion line from our insurance and claims management section.

[9:23:39] Yeah, please go ahead.

[9:23:43] So we respect to premium.

[9:23:45] We have a couple of strategies to work through like the restructuring of the program,

[9:23:52] like through potential deductible changes, etc, but definitely the recent damages to the facilities

[9:23:59] will be a key negotiation points that we are anticipating premium increases, but if you have plans to minimize it.

[9:24:11] When do you think we'll know those the scope of like any changes in premiums?

[9:24:16] Because I just know that it's definitely become something that's come up as a surprise in some of our budgeting in the past with like WCB premiums going up

[9:24:24] And that wasn't for casted, so I just want to, that's why this is kind of something that flagged for me.

[9:24:30] Oh, for sure. Actually, a renewal is Q1 of next year.

[9:24:35] You've already logged in the premium up to May 1st of next year.

[9:24:41] And the bulk of the negotiations are happening in February March of next year.

[9:24:48] but more proactively planning to reach out to a number

[9:24:53] of markets to a to do small competition,

[9:24:56] but definitely the trending of the losses

[9:24:59] has been a key concern for sure.

[9:25:01] But one of the things that are very important is for us

[9:25:04] to show that we are mitigating, we have class in terms

[9:25:09] of prevention and some of them for seeing extreme

[9:25:13] that our events is part of the reason

[9:25:16] be purchasing sure of us but you have a strategy just in place hopefully to minimize it but

[9:25:22] we can provide an update in Q1 of next year as we get closer.

[9:25:28] Okay, that's helpful and any updates on Peter Hemingway and like I understand there's

[9:25:37] like obviously some long-term work that needs to be done to mitigate this from happening

[9:25:42] again, that's what it sounds like to me, but we're trying to get it open as fast as possible

[9:25:47] so that it can be used in the short term. Correct. And so teams between facility maintenance

[9:25:52] services and city operations as well as within community services. So a Roger Japanese group

[9:25:58] and our team as well, which by extension includes the contractor worked on the rehab and our

[9:26:04] architecture tool team and their engineering consultants. We got a lot of people poking around

[9:26:08] And at this, first priority is getting an open, and we don't want to have the immediate recurrence

[9:26:14] that we had, because we did reopen at once and then it flooded again.

[9:26:18] So I think we've learned from that, we know where the source of entry is, we're trying

[9:26:22] to address that first, and then at the same time, in parallel to that Pascal's team is leading

[9:26:28] an investigation more broadly into kind of the network that's happening.

[9:26:32] So no date is known as of yet, but as soon as you know, I will know, and therefore

[9:26:37] community will now. We will share that with Council. Okay. Okay. Council Clark. Yeah, I just go back to the presentation.

[9:26:46] Just to the West Valley LRT. So if I'm hearing this correctly, we still think I might piece on track for the road and the track subgrade work by the end of the year.

[9:26:56] Is that correct?

[9:26:58] We're still assessing that right now, Councillor Clark. The MIP is currently on track on 102nd Avenue, but because of the weather,

[9:27:07] they have had to direct resources from elsewhere on the project to stay on track with that.

[9:27:11] So we think there may be some impacts on West Edmonton, but we're still working through

[9:27:15] that with them.

[9:27:19] And then for Wellington Bridget, I think I heard the sequence of opening for this, are we going

[9:27:24] to do the bike pedestrian lane first, then the ravine trail, and then vehicle trail?

[9:27:28] Yeah.

[9:27:28] So very similar to what I shared with you with horseshoe creek.

[9:27:31] The team has contingency plans in the event we have an early winter for instance.

[9:27:36] So the goal of the team is to get everything done.

[9:27:39] Failing that, if we start kind of running into things,

[9:27:42] we've provided instructions to the contractor

[9:27:44] to prioritize certain school of homework.

[9:27:46] So first is getting the road open.

[9:27:48] Four lanes of traffic.

[9:27:50] Second, we know that bike lane on the north side

[9:27:52] is a key integral part of our bike network.

[9:27:55] And we need to get that open.

[9:27:57] Third priority is the cell sidewalk,

[9:27:59] which didn't even exist before.

[9:28:00] So that is a new amenity for the public.

[9:28:03] and then the ravine underneath is the last and that's largely because some of that

[9:28:07] two might be seasonal underneath. So the landscaping and some of the

[9:28:12] vegetation repair work that needs to happen. So for more broadly the goal is still

[9:28:17] to get everything done this fall but feeling that when we have to prepare as as the

[9:28:22] industry members pointed out what we have to plan for, you know, adverse weather. So if

[9:28:27] we haven't really went to, we need to think of what those contingency plans look like.

[9:28:32] And then lastly, just for the Rec Center, let me know when I can start the 365 countdown clock

[9:28:38] on the website.

[9:28:39] But I'm here in that might be soon.

[9:28:41] Yeah, we received really good news.

[9:28:43] We wanted to make sure that was included in the presentation because the teams now are trying

[9:28:49] to, it's not often that we have the privilege of being able to prepare for something being

[9:28:54] done early, so we're working together with community services to get that done.

[9:28:59] And Councillor Clark, I do want to manage expectations.

[9:29:03] We don't perfectly finish construction and then open, so there is a period of time to

[9:29:09] my colleagues and community services where they have their staff and training and getting

[9:29:14] the facility ready from the operational point of view.

[9:29:19] So we were providing information on the construction completion timeline and we need to follow

[9:29:23] up with community services on when they'll have it open.

[9:29:26] Fair enough. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Clark. I want to talk about another one.

[9:29:37] So I'd ask this of Epquar. A few of my constituents had flagged for me that the dry pond

[9:29:45] at 146 street was not filling at all. And yet yellow head was flooding, especially in

[9:29:56] in that section between 150, 6 and 6.

[9:30:08] And so I just want to hear your side of the story. I debated whether I even asked this question, but I do want to know, like, how long from when we identify deficiencies, are we getting those deficiencies fixed? And what do you think, do you think that having that dry pond actually activated, would have,

[9:30:34] So short answers, I was at utility committee on Monday, so I heard those questions, and I followed up with Craig, and, of course, after those comments were made.

[9:30:44] So a typical linear construction project has a two year warranty, so at the completion of construction, we call it the construction completion and a certificate issued CCC, and then there's essentially a warranty period on a vertical construction typically it's a year.

[9:31:00] on horizontal construction just because of some of the underbed on work that happens it's usually

[9:31:04] longer period it's usually two years. So on our yellow head project all of our warranties are

[9:31:08] typically two years. So we have entered into we've had a construction completion certificate issued for

[9:31:14] that work and that means that the asset is turned over to the city for operation or to

[9:31:22] at core. So effectively at that point the facility is an operation but we're monitoring it for deficiencies

[9:31:29] and there are noted deficiencies, but I would suggest that those deficiencies didn't interfere

[9:31:34] with the operation of that pond. It doesn't mean that they're not important and we need

[9:31:39] to address those working with AppCore. But the pond is operating and we did see and AppCore

[9:31:45] shared that on Monday that during one of the flood events it did activate and there was water

[9:31:50] in the pond. It was one of the things we wanted to know because we've invested a lot of money

[9:31:53] as part of that project and that in that pond. So it is working but the purpose and use of

[9:31:59] pond and how it fits in the broader network.

[9:32:02] I'm a little bit unclear.

[9:32:03] Epcore would have to answer that specifically,

[9:32:05] but I understand it is a surge pond.

[9:32:08] So it's only once after every upstream or downstream

[9:32:12] pipe that's filled, it would activate.

[9:32:14] So it's one of the very last things within the network

[9:32:17] that would fill.

[9:32:19] OK, no, that's helpful information.

[9:32:22] And I did want to ask that publicly

[9:32:23] because to follow the public questions information at utility.

[9:32:28] That's it for this one, and this is an information report, so nothing to receive here.

[9:32:34] So we can move on, I think, and just, you know, again, why we don't speak to information

[9:32:38] reports.

[9:32:38] Thank you for being proactive.

[9:32:39] Thank you for bringing this forward.

[9:32:41] Thank you for keeping us informed, and please continue to keep us informed, as you

[9:32:45] know more.

[9:32:47] We will now move on to 7.3 public arts to enhance Edmonton's public realm policy.

[9:32:58] So do we switch out of the delegation?

[9:33:02] Or is it the same? Same folks. Okay. Do you have a presentation?

[9:33:09] We do not. Okay. No presentation on that one. But we do have a speaker. So I'll see if that speaker is available online.

[9:33:19] Um, Erica Strada?

[9:33:24] Are you with us?

[9:33:27] Oh, oh, yes, I am.

[9:33:29] Oh,

[9:33:33] okay, perfect.

[9:33:36] Yeah, we're on the public art policies.

[9:33:39] So this is your time to speak.

[9:33:41] And you'll have three minutes.

[9:33:44] Which is a bit shorter.

[9:33:45] Oh, right, yes.

[9:33:46] I apologize.

[9:33:47] No, I mean, following the way.

[9:33:50] Thank you for the time.

[9:33:52] I'll be...

[9:33:54] I'll be...

[9:33:57] as concise as I can.

[9:33:59] I think this changing on language shows the...

[9:34:04] need for investment on the art infrastructure that we have in our city.

[9:34:10] I think it's a great set forward to allow for more flexibility.

[9:34:14] I am just disappointed that within the time that it had to review, it isn't really an

[9:34:22] insertion we're in diving to do or we could have included more language about the economic

[9:34:31] development that this infrastructure and cultural infrastructure brings to our city and I am

[9:34:41] disappointed that that wasn't really included, although we do say that some of the principles

[9:34:51] there are about economic development as well, you know, business improvement areas that

[9:34:59] holster or main streets were engaged on this conversation. And you know, but I have a new

[9:35:05] Specifically we have a lot of public art. We have beautiful concrete benches with 53 art pieces that were submitted

[9:35:17] for the 2008 if I remember correctly or 2003. I don't know. I don't have my notes here.

[9:35:24] It's being a long way aside, my general. All of you are thinking right now. But we have a lot of

[9:35:31] for art in the avenue and I don't think the maintenance of it has been really considered

[9:35:38] in the operations budget path needed.

[9:35:44] It's actually needed.

[9:35:46] The usage of the spaces in the public room, how sometimes it's also abuse, wasn't a

[9:35:53] facture on budget inconsiderations and I think that's something we can address at the root

[9:35:57] because when we are thinking about infrastructure projects moving forward, overall I think

[9:36:03] is a great step forward, so changing language, I would love to see a little bit more of

[9:36:09] engagement on the economic priorities as we face more demand from our city administration and

[9:36:19] all the other organizations that we're trying to just make our city beautiful welcoming and

[9:36:24] practice to everybody. That will follow me. It's for now for me. I do want to say that I am

[9:36:31] enjoying my bike line here. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions for speaker is strata?

[9:36:44] There are no questions of you at this time but again just as I've expressed thank you for

[9:36:58] of the public art policy, and we'll be-

[9:37:05] I selected the idea that I have no questions in the Hampshire.

[9:37:08] Did you want to move the recommendation in the reports?

[9:37:11] So moved.

[9:37:16] And you have that up there?

[9:37:18] So, do you want to just read that in Councilor Jans?

[9:37:21] I move that resign.

[9:37:23] These guys, CouncilPolice Charmary 458,

[9:37:26] Fox Trot, Public Art, to Enance, Edmonton's Public Room.

[9:37:28] So

[9:37:30] The Senate in attachment 1 of the August 26th, 2026 infrastructure services report ISO 3596 be approved.

[9:37:38] Thank you and that's a recommendation to go to city council. Correct?

[9:37:44] Okay.

[9:37:46] I did have a question. Did you have an introduction? I guess you know. No questions, right?

[9:37:52] No.

[9:37:53] Okay.

[9:37:53] I just thought like I feel like really silly that I was like I read this a jet this change

[9:38:00] many times and I don't understand what it does.

[9:38:06] Like what do we have now?

[9:38:10] What is the policy do now and what will this policy with this change in wording lead to?

[9:38:19] The policy was transformed in 2021 when we moved from the percent for art policy to the public art policy.

[9:38:27] At that point the public art reserve was created and the funding of the public art reserve moved from being attached to the capital budget and moved into the operating budget.

[9:38:43] At the time, there was a request to include the language that the minimum amount would still be 1% of eligible capital projects.

[9:38:54] To offer continuity between the percent for art and the public art policy.

[9:38:59] As we reviewed this policy for years and in advance of the next budget cycle, we wanted to clarify that we have moved away from

[9:39:10] funding art on the basis of a percent of the capital program and it really is a decision of council

[9:39:17] through the operating budget. That's what the amount will be allocated to art.

[9:39:22] But we added the or we refraised the commitment to maintain a minimum baseline in the reserve

[9:39:29] that would allow for the administration and the conservation work that the eminent arts council

[9:39:34] continues to do and to ensure the long-term sustainability of the public art program.

[9:39:39] So essentially, the wording is to clarify what has been in place for the last four years in advance

[9:39:45] of the next budget cycle in its deliberation and so that council will have clarity that you'll

[9:39:51] see that how we bring forward the request for funding for art will be only in the operating budget

[9:39:59] and it will reflect that commitment of historical investment and collection maintenance.

[9:40:10] And then, so what, I guess, because the policy is creating the details of the reserve like other reserves that go below the minimum balance, what does, is there like a replenishment like plan that has to be created like, or is that just by too far ahead?

[9:40:28] The public art reserve, I would have to confirm with our colleagues from finance, but I don't believe that it has the same level of requirement as does like the financial stabilization reserve, which has that requirement.

[9:40:42] In this case, it would be the policy as a commitment from Council and administration, and so from that perspective it would be through the operating budget that Council would meet its commitment to the policy.

[9:40:55] I'm going to need another round, let me ask have questions.

[9:41:00] So, I mean, the beauty of like the 1% of cap, and I know this is going back before

[9:41:06] the four years, the beauty of that was that art was just like a standard piece of it.

[9:41:15] We were basically acknowledging art as a basic piece of infrastructure in our city.

[9:41:22] I didn't like that they were coupled with like the specific projects and then you'd have to have the art on yellow head trail instead of where people would actually like engage with it, so I understand some of those changes.

[9:41:33] But while you're saying it's a commitment of administration and council, we can't make a commitment beyond what when push comes to shove what is approved or not approved at budget.

[9:41:42] And now this makes this feel like it's a service package that can be pulled out for debate.

[9:41:49] That otherwise, it would have just been a standard amount.

[9:41:55] So for clarity, it's actually included in the base budget, and it's not presented as a service package.

[9:42:01] Okay, if that offers, but what it can refer to the basis.

[9:42:06] Because like that's the things like the 1% budget would always increase proportionate to the capital budget.

[9:42:16] Do you see what I'm saying, but is this one stagnant?

[9:42:19] So the thought behind it is that we would take into account the increased level.

[9:42:28] So our collection continues to grow and it ages.

[9:42:32] And so it's going to be like any of our renewal, it increases and it's requirement for funding.

[9:42:40] Additionally, inflation, all of these things affect the cost of our conservation efforts

[9:42:45] and what we can do with the limited dollars that are available.

[9:42:49] And so from that perspective, there would need to be an increase to reflect

[9:42:53] maintaining the level of service or the level of conservation that we can do.

[9:42:59] And we've been working with the Arts Council to understand how we can do that.

[9:43:05] At this point in time, what we've captured is that the operating budget is paying for the maintenance in the conservation and the transformational projects.

[9:43:12] Yellowhead, LRT, all of our rec centers have been contributing to the increase of the collection and the addition of new art.

[9:43:21] And that will continue for 20, 7, 30.

[9:43:23] As we continue to move forward, it will need to determine what is the capital, like we would still be looking to the capital program to kind of inform what those opportunities are and how far and how fast council wants to go with increasing the arts collection while maintaining it and doing the conservation through the base budget.

[9:43:47] Okay, so and just my last question in my dying seconds the arts council is a part of of this and they you've worked in collaboration with them

[9:43:56] Yes, absolutely and Renee Williams is on the call if you have any questions for her

[9:44:01] I don't I don't have time, but I appreciate Renee being here and I

[9:44:06] Thank you so much. That's it for me. And we've got the motion on the floor

[9:44:11] Anybody that would like to speak to the motion on the floor. I don't know okay

[9:44:18] Councillor Giants, do you have anything to close?

[9:44:24] Out from moment to moment to moment.

[9:44:26] What art is now just getting in good.

[9:44:28] Let's vote for it.

[9:44:30] Okay, I hope it's ready for it.

[9:44:32] I was ready for a silica we on art.

[9:44:36] Okay, please vote.

[9:44:39] Yes.

[9:44:40] Thank you, Councillor Giants.

[9:44:44] We have all the votes.

[9:44:47] Please display the votes.

[9:44:53] And that is carried.

[9:44:55] And now we will move on to item 7.4.

[9:44:58] Climate Resiliency Policy, C-C-C.

[9:45:01] 2627A review. And this looks like there is a change in delegation.

[9:46:13] Sorry. Please go ahead with your presentation.

[9:46:15] Sure. Good evening. We do have a presentation, but for the benefit of time where we are in the agenda, we can go straight to speakers, but we do have a presentation if that's desired.

[9:46:24] I think given the number of speakers and interest on this topic, I do think presentation would be beneficial. And yes, so I will say yes to a presentation.

[9:46:35] excellent. Okay good evening for here to present the review of the city's climate resilience policy

[9:46:42] C627A along with recommended revisions. As global and local best practices evolve,

[9:46:49] our tools and our approach to climate action must evolve with them. The proposed revisions

[9:46:54] incorporate a data-driven approach that will strengthen our ability to to proactively manage climate

[9:47:00] risks while ensuring our decisions remain

[9:47:03] fiscally responsible and focused on delivering

[9:47:06] effective services. Ultimately, this policy is about building a city

[9:47:11] that is affordable safe and resilient for all

[9:47:13] inventor needs. Next slide, please.

[9:47:17] As Edmonton grows, the decisions we make today about our civic

[9:47:20] buildings and community preparedness will directly shape

[9:47:24] our city's long-term financial and physical resilience.

[9:47:27] When we build climate-ready infrastructure, we're taking a smart long-term approach to growth.

[9:47:34] In practice, this means ensuring our community buildings are durable and energy efficient.

[9:47:40] Additionally, it means thinking strategically about green infrastructure,

[9:47:45] like the trees we plant that can naturally cool our neighborhoods and help manage stormwater.

[9:47:51] A thoughtful and balanced approach safeguards our essential municipal services and protects our public assets.

[9:47:57] Next slide please.

[9:48:01] The city's 2026 Corporate Strategic Risk Profile Identified Climate Related Risk, as the

[9:48:08] risk with the largest increase.

[9:48:11] Climate change risks are no longer just strategic future concerns.

[9:48:15] They are our present day, safety, and operational consideration.

[9:48:20] The private sector also recognizes the elevated risk.

[9:48:23] Climate-related insurance claims are steadily rising.

[9:48:27] With Alberta rates increasing roughly 390% since 2005.

[9:48:34] The disruption from climate hazards are projected to impact our local economy in the health of

[9:48:39] Ementonians.

[9:48:41] Estimates suggest climate hazards could reduce Ementon's annual GDP by an average of 2 billion

[9:48:48] by the 2040s and cause an additional 22,000 health incidents per year by the 2050s.

[9:48:56] slide.

[9:48:59] Climate action is evolving globally driven by science, technologies and changing policies.

[9:49:08] Administration is bringing forward a number of updates to the city's climate resilience policy

[9:49:14] C6278 to calibrate and modernize our approach. Firstly, a community adaptation target is being

[9:49:22] This new target allows us to track climate-related risk at a city-wide level.

[9:49:28] This change is a direct response to the recommendation of the City Auditors' 2024 environmental

[9:49:34] and climate governance audit, which we have ensuring we have the right metrics in place

[9:49:41] to monitor a critically important risk.

[9:49:44] Second, the report proposes adjusting our approach to new city buildings.

[9:49:48] Designing low-emission climate-ready infrastructure, often requires higher upfront capital costs.

[9:49:56] But it also delivers longer term benefits.

[9:49:59] To ensure we're maximizing taxpayer value, we are incorporating a sustainable return-on-investment threshold.

[9:50:06] This will guide city design and construction decisions to find the optimal balance between climate resilience and capital investment.

[9:50:14] Additionally, clarification is added to the policy regarding exceptions for new city buildings.

[9:50:21] And finally, the requirement for a Council Advisory Committee on Climate Resilience is being removed in alignment with the energy transition and climate resilience committees sunsetting earlier this year.

[9:50:34] I'll now pass the presentation to Shandra Tamayars, Director of Environment and Climate Resilience

[9:50:39] to outline the proposed adaptation targets.

[9:50:44] Thank you.

[9:50:45] Next slide, please.

[9:50:46] The proposed adaptation targets track city-wide climate-related risk, and we really understand

[9:50:54] this risk in three ways.

[9:50:55] The first is climate hazards.

[9:50:58] These are the specific events or trends that we're facing.

[9:51:01] A recent example of everything that we've been talking about today,

[9:51:05] Council's been talking about today, the rain we experienced in June,

[9:51:10] is officially now the Wettest June and Edmonton's recorded history.

[9:51:13] So that's the hazard. The second component is exposure.

[9:51:17] And this captures what might be impacted or affected by that hazard.

[9:51:23] So this could be people, infrastructure, buildings,

[9:51:26] ecosystem habitat.

[9:51:28] So, for example, in June, emitonsaw trails closed, severe erosion that caused a number of bridges to be closed in a surge in insurance claims.

[9:51:38] And then finally, the third component is vulnerability. So, this is the human instructional dimension.

[9:51:44] How easily a neighborhood could be harmed, and importantly, it's capacity to manage that harm or recover from it.

[9:51:51] So these impacts, or these events are not theoretical,

[9:51:58] we heard today even from the construction industry that these events are measured in significant economic and operational costs.

[9:52:06] So for example, the storms events in May and June resulted in $406 million in ensure losses for the Edmonton region. Next slide, please.

[9:52:19] So, Edmonton is more than a collection of roads, infrastructure, and planning documents.

[9:52:24] We are city defined by our diverse stories, cultures, and people. Edmonton is a mosaic made up of all.

[9:52:30] All these things, place where people build their lives and grow their families. And this diversity translates

[9:52:35] directly into over 380 unique neighborhoods in Edmonton, each with its own unique characteristics,

[9:52:41] strengths and needs. These unique characteristics also mean that each neighborhood could have different

[9:52:48] climate risks and vulnerabilities. Administration is presenting a new adaptation target based

[9:52:54] evaluating over 380 neighborhoods for climate risks, looking at 82 different indicators in each

[9:53:00] neighborhood. Collectively those neighborhoods make up the larger risk profile for the whole city.

[9:53:06] Each neighborhood is a piece of that overall climate mosaic for Edmonton. Next slide please.

[9:53:13] Growing climate risks will impact all of Edmonton, everyone, everywhere.

[9:53:19] Though the impacts might not be the same in every neighborhood.

[9:53:23] or for every hazard. There are risks, though, in all neighborhoods.

[9:53:28] So climate change is impacting, it's also impacting, impacting the backbone of the community,

[9:53:34] the core services on which Edmontonians are live, from public services and infrastructure

[9:53:38] like bridges and roads and urban parks, to emergency management services.

[9:53:43] The risks are real, and the consequences can be significant.

[9:53:47] So, administration's new climate adaptation target is designed to reduce risk in those highest

[9:53:51] risk areas of the city and across the whole city.

[9:53:55] The target is to reduce the number of neighborhoods

[9:53:57] in the highest risk category to zero by 2050

[9:54:01] and to reduce city-wide risk by 10% by 2050.

[9:54:07] These targets are important steps in building Edmonton's

[9:54:09] resilience and safeguarding the whole community.

[9:54:12] I'll now ask Giovanni Bruno, our senior engineer,

[9:54:16] to walk us through the remainder of the presentation.

[9:54:17] Thank you. Next slide please.

[9:54:23] After inaugural infrastructure committee meeting in June of last year, Council gave clear

[9:54:27] direction to find ways to lower the capital costs of climate resilient building design

[9:54:31] elements. Administration has worked with experts such as the former energy transition

[9:54:37] and climate resilience committee to find ways to lower costs while still trying to achieve

[9:54:42] the city of Edmonton's overall commitment to lead climate solutions. However, it is a complex

[9:54:47] space, and there could be building designs that won't achieve a carbon-neutral climate-resilient

[9:54:52] design based on the updates to this policy.

[9:54:56] City buildings make up about 47% of our corporate emissions, and these buildings are also

[9:55:01] facing new and growing climate risks.

[9:55:04] Buildings are an important piece of a city's efforts to lower greenhouse gas emissions and

[9:55:08] provide climate-ready services.

[9:55:11] Administration has found ways to reduce capital costs, but there's no one-size-fits-all solution.

[9:55:16] Different building types, whether an administrative office or a fire station have different pathways and challenges for reaching carbon neutrality.

[9:55:25] Next slide please.

[9:55:29] The updated policy incorporates a sustainable return on investment or SROI approach to evaluate life cycle benefits, including environmental and social outcomes alongside financial impacts.

[9:55:43] Projects will apply climate resilient requirements only up to the point of achieving a positive SROI.

[9:55:50] This provides flexibility based on the complexity of the building type.

[9:55:54] When a positive SROI is not feasible, the project will proceed without those requirements.

[9:56:00] An SROI captures a range of project impacts beyond direct financial impacts.

[9:56:06] It considers the wider social and environmental impacts of project decisions, such as greenhouse gas emissions

[9:56:11] and air pollution health impacts.

[9:56:14] By adopting SRI analysis, the city will prioritize climate investments that maximize long-term

[9:56:19] impact and fiscal efficiency.

[9:56:22] These policy adjustments help manage fiscal constraints, but we risk locking in emissions.

[9:56:28] To achieve our long-term commitments, we may be required to look at alternative solutions,

[9:56:32] such as purchasing renewable energy, or offsetting.

[9:56:35] Next slide, please.

[9:56:39] If Council approves the policy, administration is ready to move from planning to action.

[9:56:44] For buildings, administration will take two approaches.

[9:56:48] First, for projects currently in design, we'll continue to identify cost saving opportunities.

[9:56:53] The second approach is looking forward.

[9:56:55] The new C627B policy will ensure that all future designs are guided by a sustainable return on investment threshold.

[9:57:02] For the new adaptation target, administration is committed to transparency.

[9:57:08] Administration will work to publish the neighborhood risk profiles so that all communities

[9:57:12] have the information they need to better understand their local risks and take steps to improve our collective resilience.

[9:57:19] However, targets are only meaningful when supported by concrete actions.

[9:57:23] On September 2nd, administration will bring our climate priorities to executive committee,

[9:57:28] which includes an update on greenhouse gas emissions.

[9:57:30] These actions will outline the top climate priorities.

[9:57:34] Council can then decide through budget,

[9:57:36] the extent, and pace of implementation.

[9:57:40] Next slide.

[9:57:42] Thank you, and we would be pleased to answer any questions you may have.

[9:57:49] Thank you, and we now have some speakers.

[9:57:54] I'm going to just do a double check.

[9:57:56] I'm guessing all of them are virtual.

[9:57:58] If they're here, Mike Melrose.

[9:58:03] Perfect. Dad Nielsen.

[9:58:09] Yeah, I'm here but I don't need to do a presentation. I can just answer questions as needed.

[9:58:14] Sure, it's totally up to you. Well, we'll see you all here and we'll come back. You can decide then. Jesse Watson.

[9:58:20] Good evening. Heather McKenzie.

[9:58:27] Present. Thank you.

[9:58:30] Preet King. Hello.

[9:58:36] Raff, tender, anda.

[9:58:40] Yes, here.

[9:58:41] You think I would have brought your name by now?

[9:58:43] Right. I'm Bob Sol.

[9:58:45] Sorry, Raff.

[9:58:46] Lori Lynn. Greg Guar.

[9:58:49] Thank you.

[9:58:50] Perfect.

[9:58:52] And Joshua Buck.

[9:58:55] Um, I'm speaking instead of Joshua Buck, Mariam Tuley.

[9:59:00] Just like to, I'll just go to the...

[9:59:03] Do we need...

[9:59:05] Yeah, we probably need a name, and if you'd like to accept the new person,

[9:59:11] or you'd go on it, like to, would...

[9:59:13] I think I mean...

[9:59:16] Just a sec.

[9:59:25] Um, yeah, we'll...

[9:59:26] We'll move to hear from that speaker in place of Joshua.

[9:59:30] Please vote on hearing from that speaker.

[9:59:40] We can just ask the speaker to, you know...

[9:59:44] I think it's just in the, is it? Is that your name in the, in the, on your religious?

[9:59:50] So yeah, M-A-R-I-M-M-M... Can you say a lot of it?

[9:59:55] Jelly, jelly?

[9:59:58] Did I say it right?

[10:00:01] It's a lily at the end.

[10:00:02] Oh, lily.

[10:00:06] It's not that important.

[10:00:08] Either way, we can, we have that motion.

[10:00:32] Okay, please vote.

[10:00:41] We have all the votes.

[10:00:42] Please display the votes.

[10:00:47] And that is carried.

[10:00:48] Okay, sorry for the formalities that that's what we need to do to have it on public record.

[10:00:53] So I will, everybody's here. Well, again, thank you everyone for joining us this evening

[10:00:58] and coming back to be heard.

[10:01:03] So we'll start with Mike.

[10:01:04] You have three minutes, please go ahead.

[10:01:08] Oh, thank you, good evening.

[10:01:09] I'm Mike Naur on the vice president of the Alberta Eucharist Foundation.

[10:01:14] Alberta Eucharist operates at Minton's Low Carbon Cities Canada Center.

[10:01:18] Alberta's Retrific Accelerator and we convene Alberta's emissions neutral buildings

[10:01:22] information exchange, which is an industry capacity building organization that's focused

[10:01:26] on low carbon construction. First, we believe that Edmonton cannot divert from the path to carbon

[10:01:32] neutrality as committed to emits community energy transition strategy. And city buildings

[10:01:38] alone, as we've heard, are nearly 50% of the city's corporate emissions. So, trying

[10:01:43] for high performance standards really must continue. And the pursuit of other measures should

[10:01:48] also continue. That said, we understand why the SROIs introduced here as a tool. The SROI will

[10:01:55] allow the city to evaluate societal cost of benefits, which are really important, beyond the

[10:02:00] building itself, thereby considering the overall public good in addition to financial

[10:02:05] viability.

[10:02:06] And this, you know, formerly evaluates the trade-offs, the real world trade-offs.

[10:02:10] We believe that the ongoing use of this tool is a prudent, replicable, and defensible way

[10:02:16] to keep leading the market in high performance, climate-resilient buildings, by creating

[10:02:21] on the evidence-based lens that acknowledges other policy outcomes.

[10:02:25] And for us, this really isn't theoretical

[10:02:27] through our retrofitting accelerator,

[10:02:29] which we've operated for the last three years.

[10:02:32] We've learned this lesson as well.

[10:02:33] And the decarbonization is absolutely the destination,

[10:02:37] but it is clear that pathway to decarbonation

[10:02:40] to be viable has to be staged and faced

[10:02:43] reflecting economic realities and the pace

[10:02:45] of change that the market can absorb.

[10:02:48] Building owners who try to do everything

[10:02:49] are often paralysed into doing nothing at all.

[10:02:53] Through our index program, we work directly with the private sector and we know the industry,

[10:02:57] including owner and operators, want to move more in this direction.

[10:03:01] We're seeing that potential long-term cost effect in this of these investments.

[10:03:05] However, the reality is the market readiness now, but it is still nascent,

[10:03:08] and the leadership the city can provide is very necessary.

[10:03:13] Because this climate design policy does not just influence civic accommodations,

[10:03:17] It actually sets a bar at least the transformation of our design and construction sector here in Edmonton.

[10:03:24] But we need to learn from what you're doing, but it's to be meaningful to the market.

[10:03:28] So we ask the city to commit to publishing the data and analysis behind each of these decisions, not just the outcomes,

[10:03:34] so that we can see how the thinking has changed the decision.

[10:03:38] We also believe adoption of the climate resilience target is also a great start.

[10:03:41] and from our analysis, the target is aligned with how other key municipalities are tackling

[10:03:45] this and addressing tracking resilience, really what we can assert is that climate action

[10:03:52] at its heart is economic development and a city that can pursue these things because of

[10:03:58] marketable city that attracts business and talent and into the future of a carbon economy.

[10:04:03] So we asked the council and community support, what we proposed here and we look forward to learning

[10:04:08] from the data collected from this work in sharing the learned industry wide.

[10:04:13] Thank you.

[10:04:14] Thank you.

[10:04:15] Dad Nielsen.

[10:04:20] Well, we're good.

[10:04:20] Thank you.

[10:04:21] Oh yeah, that's right.

[10:04:22] The prepared answer questions.

[10:04:24] So anyways, questions.

[10:04:25] Jesse Watson.

[10:04:29] Great.

[10:04:29] Hey, guys.

[10:04:31] Yeah, my name is Jesse Watson.

[10:04:33] I'm here today to formally urge the committee to actually reject an end recommendation

[10:04:36] of no one improving the policy change.

[10:04:39] I fundamentally believe that whatever we put into the environment must be managed and

[10:04:43] set in the real sustainable way. If we pollute a river, we have a basic duty to clean it up.

[10:04:48] But as a city, we have to be realistic about what a municipal government can actually achieve.

[10:04:53] Rather than piling symbolic costs on to local taxpayers without fixing an underlying problem.

[10:04:58] Look at the international policies and the UK aggressive meds, your mandates,

[10:05:03] search and industrial electricity prices, 46% on the international averages, driving

[10:05:09] It's your production down 46% in costing the economy billions.

[10:05:13] They didn't eliminate carbon, they price their local industry and also are manufacturing

[10:05:16] to China.

[10:05:17] We're trying to generate the UK's entire annual carbon footprint less than 12 days.

[10:05:21] We see the same disconnect locally with our single-use item by law, plastic bags, distribute,

[10:05:28] distribution dropped 80%, but that's not, that's common sense when you ban something.

[10:05:32] Where is the actual quantified environmental outcome?

[10:05:35] The city hasn't measured life cycle carbon savings or processing efficiency.

[10:05:39] In fact, take a container, waste search over 75%, we force citizens to pay extra for

[10:05:45] paper bags that take more energy produced with zero proof it cleaned up our environment.

[10:05:50] Now we see the exact same pattern with building policies.

[10:05:53] We will far hauls with extensive solar arrays that are sometimes set disconnected.

[10:05:57] We spend millions on internal climate initiatives, like sensory plays, who are secondary

[10:06:02] mechanical system was installed years ago to hit some kind of environmental metric, yet we

[10:06:07] are still running the original equipment. So we're running sealed mechanical systems at the same

[10:06:11] time in our biggest building. We make these coffee decisions but we never turn or return back to

[10:06:17] take accountability for our own failures and policy. Most concerning today, however, is how this

[10:06:22] policy shift is being justified. This report relies on a survey of just 1,000 people in a

[10:06:32] That's 77% is an M&10, that's 772 respondents.

[10:06:38] To frame a sample size of 700ish people as a sweeping democratic mandate to shift municipal

[10:06:43] policy is completely irrelevant.

[10:06:46] Furthermore, the report varies the fact that 42% actively oppose paying a tax level for climate

[10:06:52] action while introducing an SRI or I calculation that their own report admits relies on and

[10:06:59] I quote subjective methodologies.

[10:07:01] Instead of approving this report, I urge a member of this committee to move to refer

[10:07:05] it back to administration, direct staff to hold worldwide-world town halls, partnering

[10:07:09] with key community leads, and present her data on real-world outcomes, like the proven

[10:07:14] financial impacts of an emissions-zero bus barn, or for asking taxpayers to support it.

[10:07:20] If administration is truly confident that 700 people represent a genuine consensus, but major

[10:07:26] decisions like a net zero boss bond to a direct public vote.

[10:07:30] Put it on the ballot and prove us wrong. Please reject the report, table, that, but we're in a full motion. Thank you.

[10:07:36] Heather McKenzie,

[10:07:42] Heather McKenzie, Heather McKenzie.

[10:07:44] In, Heather McKenzie, hello, can you hear me?

[10:07:47] Sorry, you just, you just, can you hear me?

[10:07:49] You're a little bit delayed, so I was a bit of my leg, but go for it.

[10:07:54] Okay, if I'm all right now, then I'll get started.

[10:07:58] According to the McKenzie and I'm the Executive Director of Solar Alberta,

[10:08:02] the Alberta's nonprofit society dedicated to accelerating Alberta's transition to adjust and sustainable energy future.

[10:08:09] Our membership includes over 177 individuals, solar and business and micro generators,

[10:08:15] as well as over 110 solar-related businesses.

[10:08:19] We've been in operations since 1991, and we have over 36,500 followers.

[10:08:25] And here today to speak in opposition to the new version of the climate resilience policy for completely different reasons than the previous speaker.

[10:08:35] Rather than watering down the policy further, we believe significant improvements need to be made.

[10:08:41] As outlined on pages 63 and 66 in the report, the new policy focus on needing to ensure a positive return on investment

[10:08:51] It enables the city of Edmonton to ignore buildings that are heavy emitters, walking in high emissions for the lifetime of the building, or downloading significant retrofit costs on to future amenities just to save a few bucks today.

[10:09:08] Although there is nothing, oh, also, there is nothing in the document that leads to the solar-ready borough, which we have been told for all over two years is under development.

[10:09:18] And if all the body by law is extremely low hanging fruit to support the goal of emissions

[10:09:25] neutral buildings in Edmonton.

[10:09:27] The solar body by law is taking too long, we urge the city to move quicker on this item

[10:09:32] as it is a wonderful way to save Edmontonians money and will not cost the city anything.

[10:09:38] The final point I would like to make today is that the proposed new process of needing

[10:09:43] to ensure a positive return on investment will be unnecessarily complex and will take longer

[10:09:51] than a typical cost benefit analysis. This unnecessarily long and complex new process means

[10:09:57] that the seed of medicine will waste time and money on a new process that could be spent

[10:10:02] on retrofits and will currently miss meeting our 50% emissions reduction target by 2030.

[10:10:08] This Council has given multiple mandates for its administration to be ambitious with respect to climate action.

[10:10:18] Both from a climate adaptation standpoint and also from many missions reduction perspective.

[10:10:25] Given the number of ways that we have seen on emission, neutral buildings, and the reduced ambition that we are seeing time and time again

[10:10:34] And in this policy and other recommendations coming forward is increasingly feeling like

[10:10:40] there are some within the administration who are intentionally working against the direction

[10:10:45] of our council in an undemocratic way.

[10:10:48] Thank you.

[10:10:50] Thank you.

[10:10:53] Please go ahead.

[10:10:54] Good evening.

[10:10:55] Good evening.

[10:10:57] My name is Precaring and I speak about behalf of Solar Operator as well as the Operator

[10:11:00] that Environmental Network.

[10:11:01] I want to begin by recognizing the importance of the new community adaptation target.

[10:11:06] And the team is already experiencing the impacts of achieving climate and strengthening

[10:11:09] our ability to prepare its necessary.

[10:11:12] But adaptation on emissions reduction have to move forward together.

[10:11:15] That is why I'm concerned about how sustainable we're turning on investment or SROI is being

[10:11:20] incorporated into the revised policy.

[10:11:23] The report knows that buildings account for approximately 7% of the sea's corporate

[10:11:27] and that emissions control buildings are critical to

[10:11:30] the advantage of transition goals. Yet under the proposed policy,

[10:11:34] climate resilience requirements would only be incorporated to the

[10:11:37] point where a positive SROI is demonstrated. The more challenging

[10:11:40] building types, that can be implemented only some requirements.

[10:11:44] The report itself identifies the risk. This approach could lock

[10:11:47] emissions for the lifetime of a building, making them more difficult and

[10:11:50] expensive to eliminate later. That is particularly concerning

[10:11:52] when the city remains committed to reducing emissions by 50% by

[10:11:56] 2030 and becoming cognitive so by 2050.

[10:11:59] So my primary recommendation is this.

[10:12:01] These SLRI to determine the most cost-effective way

[10:12:04] to achieve any of these climate objectives,

[10:12:06] not to determine whether those objectives should be achieved.

[10:12:09] The reports have a medical father station example,

[10:12:12] shows why this matters.

[10:12:13] Designed to use reduced C627 related costs

[10:12:16] by approximately 1.1 million, nearly 30%

[10:12:19] while still maintaining emissions neutrality.

[10:12:21] That is the type of optimization

[10:12:22] we should pursue before rolling environmental outcomes.

[10:12:25] where initiatives and priorities and organizations cannot be achieved, it should remain an exception.

[10:12:29] Councils should know what emissions are being left behind, the long-term impact, the cost of the addressing them later,

[10:12:35] and how the city intends to address that emissions gap elsewhere.

[10:12:38] I'm also concerned that the revised policy removes the requirement for an independent advisory committee to counsel following the dissolution of the energy transition and climate resilience committee.

[10:12:46] I would ask committee what governance mechanism will increase the ETRC, the ETCRC as a council appointed source of committee public interest and technical expertise.

[10:12:55] I support the overall direction of the review, but I do want to recommend a approval of C627B.

[10:13:02] As currently returned without amendments that ensure SROI is used to optimize how the city achieves its kind of objectives rather than as a reason to lower those objectives.

[10:13:10] that preserves an independent council-appointed source of climate expertise

[10:13:13] following the distillation of the ECCRC and that required that that

[10:13:18] that required transparent reporting whenever climate requirements are not met.

[10:13:22] I also want to recognize seat as an important example of practical climate action that helps

[10:13:27] add into Canadians invested in energy efficiency, resilience, and renewable energy.

[10:13:31] Finally, I encourage the city to move forward with the solar ready by law.

[10:13:34] Designing the building, so solar Canadians do all more easily in the future is a low

[10:13:40] I would encourage community to ask an illustration for a clear timeline for bringing those requirements forward.

[10:13:46] Thank you very much.

[10:13:48] Thank you.

[10:13:50] And now we will go to Wrath.

[10:13:53] Good evening again.

[10:13:54] Chair and members of the committee.

[10:13:56] My name is Wrath Kendraindov.

[10:13:57] I'm the president of the committee.

[10:13:59] I like to speak specifically about climate, prepared infrastructure and proactive risk management,

[10:14:05] commitments in the proposed climate, resilience policy, the policy talks book, climate,

[10:14:11] prepared infrastructure, reducing mobility, and proactively identifying risks.

[10:14:16] I strongly support that direction.

[10:14:18] The failure at horseshoe Creek in 137th Avenue, having to sum up, provides an important

[10:14:23] real world example of why infrastructure risks need to be considered beyond simply

[10:14:29] who owns a particular asset.

[10:14:30] The Colby Network should creak as an app called drainage asset, but when that failed, that

[10:14:36] asked a bail of the consequences extended directly to city infrastructure, including

[10:14:42] 137 of the multi-use pathway in the pedestrian crossing, that demonstrates how interconnected

[10:14:48] these systems are.

[10:14:50] The policy proposals use a climate risk and vulnerability assessments to guide infrastructure

[10:14:55] investment and renewal decisions. So I was respectfully asked one of the

[10:15:00] The city assesses risk to its infrastructure, originating, interconnected, at court infrastructure being captured as well. That's not I believe they should be.

[10:15:10] I would encourage the city and at court to develop a risk-based inventory of drainage infrastructure where a failure could significantly affect city-owned assets.

[10:15:19] That could include undersized or vulnerable culverts, like on 37th and Warshu Creek, Storm and

[10:15:25] Sanctuary mainlines and mammals and also trunk clients.

[10:15:29] We're fingers going to affect girls, but it is building sidewalks, bullties, pathways, and

[10:15:33] other significant infrastructure.

[10:15:35] That does not need every drainage asset represents the same level risk.

[10:15:39] At risk based approach with identified locations where likelihood and consequences are

[10:15:43] the highest, allowing inspections prevent the maintenance, rehab and replacement to be prioritized

[10:15:48] accordingly, portion creeps should be used as a case study in a learning opportunity.

[10:15:53] We have now seen how what can happen when the failure of F-quart, drainage, asset,

[10:15:59] effects, and entire transportation corridor.

[10:16:02] So the question I will leave through a committee, where else in M-thin could this happen,

[10:16:08] are we identifying these locations early enough, particularly where F-quart utility infrastructure

[10:16:13] and setting infrastructure are connected?

[10:16:15] I recognize that the city is already moving forward on proactive risk assessment and considering the full cycle cost and benefits of infrastructure investments.

[10:16:24] My request is that the city also works.

[10:16:28] Consider risk that originate outside the city ownership, where the consequences of failure could fall heavily on city roads, city owned buildings, bridges, and pathways.

[10:16:38] or should creep gives the real, gives us a real example of why that matters.

[10:16:44] Thank you.

[10:16:47] Thank you.

[10:16:48] And now we will go to Lori Lim.

[10:16:57] Thank you.

[10:17:00] I'm going to call the manager at the University of Alberta Properties Trust.

[10:17:06] And speaking, today, I'm a half of the panel of Edmonton Metro.

[10:17:09] We'll start presenting some more than 500 companies involved in residential, commercial, and industrial development to customers in Indonesia.

[10:17:17] We'll suppose that the closed updates to climate resilience policy C627A,

[10:17:22] budgetary shift to our greater flexibility in the use of a sustainable return and investment for the SROI approach.

[10:17:29] We believe this approach will help the city focus investments where they deliver the greatest overall benefit.

[10:17:34] Rather than you line on one prescribed solution for the project, the SMLR framework allows

[10:17:39] decision makers to evaluate climate, social, financial outcomes and select measures

[10:17:44] that provide the best value for a specific project.

[10:17:48] We also support the principal right size and infrastructure in climate resilience investments.

[10:17:54] From both of the fiscal and environmental perspectives, it's important that infrastructure

[10:17:57] is scaled appropriately.

[10:17:58] When investments are aligned with project needs, we can reduce unnecessary costs, improve

[10:18:04] long-term efficiency, and our limited public and private users toward actions that achieve

[10:18:09] the greatest impact.

[10:18:11] The import provides a strong example of the best, optimizing the design of that hypothetical

[10:18:15] fire station, the city is able to reduce policyability, construction costs, all in

[10:18:19] programming.

[10:18:21] Well, so many maintaining emissions neutral outcomes, this demonstrates flexibility, and

[10:18:27] can focus decision making, can achieve environmental objectives cost effectively.

[10:18:32] We also encourage Council to recognize that policy adoption is a lid of first step

[10:18:37] to achieve the desired outcome. Climate resilience measures must be practical

[10:18:41] and economical achieveable within the realities of development and redevelopment.

[10:18:47] The requirements that are really prescribed are disproportionate to project circumstances

[10:18:51] This can increase costs, delay investment, and in some cases prevent projects for moving forward

[10:18:57] all the better.

[10:18:58] When there happens, it becomes more difficult to achieve both the climate and the broader

[10:19:02] city development objectives.

[10:19:04] The proposed SLR, I approach as part of the positive step, because it allows requirements

[10:19:10] to reflect the main characteristics of each project, associated with the city's climate

[10:19:15] goals.

[10:19:16] The support also reminds us feedback received through the city's engagement process, including

[10:19:20] feedback from Dell members, which emphasises the importance of flexibility in practical implementation.

[10:19:27] Both supports the proposed direction and encourages the city to continue to take a

[10:19:32] pragmatic outcome based approach as this policy is implemented.

[10:19:36] We believe that the intended event of climate resilience will also support housing supply,

[10:19:41] redevelopment, investment and economic growth.

[10:19:44] The sheathment bonds will require ambition, affordability, practicality, and a continued focus

[10:19:51] Thank

[10:19:54] you very much, and now we will go to Miriam, and I did just receive clarification from the clerks that they did receive an email.

[10:20:04] They just hadn't seen it yet, saying that you could speak on behalf of Joshua, so just please your preference to have your name registered or to speak on behalf.

[10:20:14] How would you like that recorded in the public minutes?

[10:20:16] I, I, doesn't matter. I can have my name registered. Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you.

[10:20:23] So, please go ahead.

[10:20:26] Okay. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Maim Jolie. I work as an architect on led zero and energy

[10:20:32] efficient building and projects in Alberta. And I want to appreciate the climate

[10:20:38] adaptation is being prioritized and expanded to neighborhood seas policy. Building a

[10:20:43] silency into the infrastructure, preparing for floods, sea waves, and extreme weather that

[10:20:48] we're already experiencing. This is an essential work and it's encouraging to see that move forward.

[10:20:54] But I also mean the caution that adaptation is only half of the picture, as we strengthen

[10:20:59] our resilience measures, we cannot afford to let climate mitigation slip down the coronavirus.

[10:21:04] Without mitigation, we are just building higher walls against the changing climate and

[10:21:09] addressing the boot cost. This matters directly for how we treat our serial building. It can be

[10:21:16] tempting, especially in a tight budget year, to shave 10 or 15 percent off the project up from

[10:21:21] cost by pulling back on environmental performances. But those are false savings. A building

[10:21:28] constructed to a lower standard becomes a retrofit liability, and even in some cases, as these

[10:21:34] can become stranded assets entirely, dislikes in a level of emission that

[10:21:39] pisses for the lifetime of the building and is far more costly, the cost,

[10:21:46] the cost that taxpayers will have to pay. We've also worked in better-fitting existing

[10:21:51] buildings and we see how complex this work is, it takes a long time with a lot of

[10:21:57] risks on cost increases and you're trying to retrofit buildings and there is already a

[10:22:02] start of existing buildings that need to be retrofitted. So we don't need to add to that.

[10:22:08] It is interesting to see that the policy proposes to add an SRI procedure into the process

[10:22:15] to reflect the full picture. It is important to reflect environmental costs and build it into the

[10:22:22] analysis as well as cost of carbon and social costs. But at the same time, I want to caution

[10:22:30] To overengineering this policy, I don't think simplicity and emission neutral requirement need to be intention. The key is separating the outcome from the mission from the method.

[10:22:42] Emissions neutral should stay a firm requirement for every new city building state that clearly in the policy itself. And not something that SRI can decide away.

[10:22:53] As I should be used to determine the most cost effective path and not if the outcome applies at all.

[10:23:02] The report mentions that they did find savings, 30% savings, but can be achieved while still achieving emissions neutrality in the building.

[10:23:12] So keeping the process simple, with a fixed social cost of carbon, pre-approved technology pathways.

[10:23:20] So it functions as a quick screening tool, not a custom study for every project,

[10:23:25] and exceptions should stay reserved for general and typical buildings as originally intended.

[10:23:31] Rather than becoming an office.

[10:23:33] Sorry.

[10:23:33] Thank you.

[10:23:34] That's okay.

[10:23:36] I were doing a bit shorter today, but thank you so much.

[10:23:40] And now we will go to questions of our public speakers. Does anyone have any questions to our

[10:23:49] members of the public? Councillor Salvador, please go ahead.

[10:23:53] Yeah, thank you. And thanks to the speakers for being here and staying so late with us.

[10:24:00] Yeah, maybe I'll direct this to speaker who McKenzie and others could potentially jump in as well

[10:24:10] I guess the thing that I'm also struggling with is like what the SROI methodology would be and what that would look like.

[10:24:22] I'm wondering if you can comment on that piece and I guess what you would expect to see.

[10:24:29] Well, if you go in this direction, we'd expect to see a calculator which would be all of a big job to produce and I don't think you want to go there.

[10:24:38] But that's the expectation people would have, if you want to go that road and you need a public calculator and you need all the data.

[10:24:46] And a lot of that I'm going to be subjective.

[10:24:49] Ultimately, you're just getting away from the emissions neutral.

[10:24:52] I mean, ultimately here I heard a men say they basically have shift all language completely.

[10:24:57] They're just talking about low emissions.

[10:24:59] They're not talking about what council has directed them to do, which is emissions neutrality.

[10:25:03] So they've already shifted the language, which means they're shifting their ambition,

[10:25:07] which is really disappointing to hear. And yeah, you need to put a lot of work

[10:25:12] in secreting a calculator for us, I think. Also, just wanted to mention

[10:25:20] there was a comment about in the report about getting rid of the committee. I heard from a committee

[10:25:28] member recently who said, oh, so cake is you have admissions, neutral building, advisory group. I just

[10:25:34] make sure everyone here knows we need once a year. I'm on that group. We don't make any decisions,

[10:25:40] we don't make any recommendations. We don't actually vote on anything and we need maybe once

[10:25:45] maxed twice a year. So it is not of a placement for what you're losing today.

[10:25:50] Thank you for that. And maybe just to marry him as well. I wanted to get a few people's perspectives on

[10:25:57] just around SROI and what you would be expecting to see.

[10:26:06] Yeah, so I think, like Heda mentioned, this is a very new complex process.

[10:26:13] And an illustration is already struggling trying to implement emissions neutral buildings,

[10:26:18] keeping it simple, focused on the target is important.

[10:26:24] Also, making sure that the correct carbon costs are being accounted for, referencing federal costs in their not artificial subjective costs.

[10:26:41] Okay.

[10:26:41] Um, two, speaker, can, uh, to pre, yeah, thank you for, for being here at, I, I, I think you, you raised a point around, um, I'll say, how to describe it, um, well, I had a note here around, uh, using the SRY to optimize,

[10:27:06] climate objectives rather than using it as sort of a bar that is barely met. Is that? I just want to elaborate a little bit more on that and kind of the directionality of expectations around this type of tool.

[10:27:26] Sure, of course I'll try to answer the best that I can. So there is a distinction that's pretty important.

[10:27:33] using SILI to optimize climate objectives means the climate objectives these fixed.

[10:27:41] While SILI helps determine the best value way to achieve it, so that is different from

[10:27:46] using SILI as a past fillgate, which determines how much of a climate objective gets implemented.

[10:27:54] Reading this C627B approach, it looks like projects would incorporate requirements only to

[10:28:01] point where a positive SOI is demonstrated, and again, for the

[10:28:06] full building type, that means that this is 67 apartments simply are not implemented.

[10:28:12] Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

[10:28:15] No, I was just messaging the clerks aimed to just redo your time, because you're the only one

[10:28:21] on the list.

[10:28:22] If there was other people on the list, I would have stopped, but please continue.

[10:28:25] Apologies.

[10:28:26] That was with the second round.

[10:28:27] Thank you.

[10:28:28] And that was really helpful.

[10:28:30] So the language of sort of or descriptor of using as like a pass field gate versus ensuring that this client object is are actually fixed.

[10:28:39] That's really helpful.

[10:28:40] And we'll inform some questions.

[10:28:41] So I'll have a administration.

[10:28:45] With.

[10:28:46] I'm going to jump back to a different speaker to speaker Melros.

[10:28:52] Mike, are you there?

[10:28:54] Yes.

[10:28:55] Great.

[10:28:56] Can you elaborate on what you'd expect to see for published data and analysis behind.

[10:29:00] each of the outcomes?

[10:29:03] Yeah, I think with SRO either, there aren't tools out there that we've been using ourselves.

[10:29:08] And benefits by a call of lineers, one of them.

[10:29:11] In fact, the original lead of silver policy, the city of Emmitton, 2011, used in SRO,

[10:29:17] I tool to arrive at that as being an optimal way of setting that policy.

[10:29:21] What I like to see are the assumptions behind it, the caution, and how it actually leads to the decision.

[10:29:27] So I agree that the SRI is just a tool you should have targets as well.

[10:29:32] It shouldn't move away from these cardinal neutrality as the ultimate destination,

[10:29:36] but it does help you contextualize the project in terms of other policy objectives.

[10:29:41] And I'm actually fairly confident that when you do an SRI,

[10:29:44] you're going to see such outside community benefits that for the most

[10:29:48] are these projects will still hold their own and they'll show viability.

[10:29:53] So just ensuring that we see all of that decision making process actually

[10:29:56] publishes that the industry in the entire market too.

[10:30:00] Learn from this process.

[10:30:04] Would you want to see the assumptions costing, I guess, more detail around that decision-making process

[10:30:12] before policies approved?

[10:30:18] I think that you probably want to see that as the projects come up. I think you should

[10:30:25] evaluate this policy again if it's not achieving the objectives. I think you're going

[10:30:30] real world, go data to share across the industry so I'd like to see the real world data.

[10:30:37] Okay. Okay, thanks for that. I'll direct my other questions to administration.

[10:30:48] Thank you very

[10:30:48] much. So now we will turn to questions of administration and please, I think council

[10:30:56] jams actually selected this and he's on the board so I'll go to him first for questions.

[10:31:00] I do man, I thank you to the speakers for their provocations.

[10:31:08] I guess first of all, just a easy one.

[10:31:10] So we're ready by loud.

[10:31:15] Councillor, so that is still a piece of work that is coming to committee.

[10:31:21] It's taken a little bit longer to put that together before we bring it to urban planning committee for a check-in and recommendation.

[10:31:27] and that's because we've been engaging with a consultant to cost out some of the options we're

[10:31:33] looking at so that we can provide committee with information around affordability impacts

[10:31:39] of any of the potential regulations. But you're looking at a we're looking at a early 2027 check

[10:31:46] in with urban planning committee with both the solar and the EV potential requirements.

[10:31:54] is one more, I imagine one would be more complex than the other,

[10:31:59] we, is there no other way to bring that sooner,

[10:32:04] at least the solar part?

[10:32:08] I don't think so, and it isn't necessarily easier

[10:32:12] when you look at the development forms that are allowed within the city,

[10:32:17] in terms of singles and maltees and different types of dwelling units

[10:32:21] And working through the complexity of what regulations might look like for solar and EV, they're not, they're not simple.

[10:32:35] I'd love to follow up online about that. I'm very curious, because I mean, I, the solar ready element is essentially just,

[10:32:42] imagine a whole some wires and a plug get it at the group when it's ready and you can hook up a solar right I mean I don't think we're

[10:32:50] mandating the roof must be tilted this way or that way or this degree I think it was just about making sure a plug is

[10:32:58] available.

[10:33:00] Yeah.

[10:33:00] That could be over.

[10:33:02] Like you're you are correct.

[10:33:04] The solar elements are more simplistic than the EV but we wanted to bring them both together

[10:33:10] at the same time, so committee can benefit from which ones have the most value and impact,

[10:33:16] and then what they both collectively together would do for cost and affordability potentially.

[10:33:23] Okay, the other one I'm interested in, so where's the checkpoint here? What's the,

[10:33:27] because then debating is a subsequent motion needed for like a report back, or kind of like

[10:33:32] on the other motion we did the R feed, did the R feed, we had a checkpoint come back, like

[10:33:37] And I'm willing to test this as our own like process, but I'm just wondering when we'd

[10:33:44] see kind of like a test case or like a brewery or something or like would it be this

[10:33:50] fall capital budget or

[10:33:57] counciljans, it's Pascal Adosar from IS, since the policy.

[10:34:03] So what you have in front of you is a revised policy, and so what it would mean is that

[10:34:10] If Council should approve it, we would be looking to apply a to new projects that would be funded in the 2730 budget.

[10:34:19] And so we could identify the case for example continuing with the conversation on fire stations.

[10:34:27] Should Council fund new fire stations, we could review and test case kind of the policy at that level.

[10:34:34] We would be doing so from also just understanding our own application of the policy and how to work with industry around it.

[10:34:46] Thank you.

[10:34:47] How come back from the round?

[10:34:48] Thank you.

[10:34:49] Councillor Salvador.

[10:34:50] Thank you.

[10:34:52] I just wanted to dig into the line of questioning around using SROI's sort of a gate, like a pass fail gate,

[10:34:59] versus having our fixed climate objectives and then using SROI2 to optimize and why we went

[10:35:09] with the past failed gate versus more of an optimization approach.

[10:35:13] I'll just quickly start and then hand it off to the team here very quickly just as a sort

[10:35:18] of a base for our answer last year infrastructure committee did instruct us to go look and explore

[10:35:25] the SRI approach and so that's why we built the report based on what you see here today but

[10:35:31] then I'll turn it over to the team to provide a little more context.

[10:35:39] Yeah, so just following up from what Kent said really we're looking at using the SRI as a tool to ensure that the additional costs associated with the mission neutral buildings are sort of

[10:35:52] You know, justified by the expected environmental social and economic outcomes really in light of that motion from last year in finding ways to identify cost savings from these projects.

[10:36:09] Okay. And I guess I'm also struggling a little bit just with the methodology around, around what that would look like.

[10:36:20] Yeah. So I can expand a little bit.

[10:36:21] So we understand that SRI analysis can be very complicated, but we do also believe that there are

[10:36:29] some simple metrics that we can use as a test.

[10:36:34] So one primary item that one of this speakers mentioned is the social cost of carbon.

[10:36:40] So this is a metric that is widely used.

[10:36:44] It's published by Environment Canada, and it essentially applies a cost on our carbon emissions.

[10:36:49] And that cost is intended to really show the broader social costs of greenhouse gas emissions.

[10:36:57] So we already do lifecycle costs assessments on our new building projects.

[10:37:03] So it doesn't necessarily need to be a new complex analysis.

[10:37:06] We can simply add things like the social cost of carbon into that cost assessment that we're doing already.

[10:37:13] to understand, you know, sort of the benefits and trade-offs associated with different design options.

[10:37:22] Okay, and, and, and just seeing, like, how this would play out then, um, being able to...

[10:37:30] I guess test, test that methodology and see how that is is working in real time to the earlier points

[10:37:37] are having some projects that we can run it through in a way.

[10:37:45] How can we stay on top of that, I guess.

[10:37:47] So if we're noticing that, hey, this is working, we are achieving outcomes, we're achieving

[10:37:52] our objectives or not. Like is there a course correction conversation to be had there as well?

[10:38:00] I can start with, you know, we do our annual reporting on our C627 policy compliance and performance.

[10:38:09] So that could be one avenue for sort of demonstrating results in what we're learning so far.

[10:38:15] I'll not trip sending that other time.

[10:38:16] And I'm at a time anyways, I'll come back. Thanks.

[10:38:21] Yeah, thank you, Councillor Stevenson.

[10:38:26] Thanks very much.

[10:38:27] Um, just with the B.S. ROI, yeah, I can sort of work that understand that that optimization

[10:38:33] between a front capital and long term operating costs, um, and how, how that factors

[10:38:40] that would suddenly have other, other measurements.

[10:38:45] Yeah.

[10:38:45] So, we already do sort of a lifecycle, uh, cost analysis on our building projects that look

[10:38:52] at not only the upfront capital costs, also the long term utility costs and maintenance

[10:38:57] instance and replacement costs. So those are your sort of direct financial costs. The SRI expands

[10:39:03] that to look at broader social and environmental costs associated with that. So like I had mentioned,

[10:39:12] one of the primary costs would be the social cost of carbon. So that is a factor that can be included.

[10:39:19] There's also some factors we can include for associate with air quality impacts in the public health

[10:39:23] access associated with that to sort of broadly assess those longer term social and environmental

[10:39:30] costs as well.

[10:39:34] Okay, and so I'm just going to say an excerpt or a comment on the report and

[10:39:39] so I can't find what is the type of word. You know, these changes to supporting animations

[10:39:44] need for this one and have our energy use and corresponding to any costs, but increase.

[10:39:54] Yeah,

[10:39:57] just the context for that, I guess.

[10:40:00] Yeah, so there's a couple different items that play here.

[10:40:03] So we're also reviewing our administrative procedures at the same time,

[10:40:06] and one of the items that we found to help improve cost savings

[10:40:10] is removing some of the prescriptive requirements that we have in our administrative procedures,

[10:40:16] which found we can still achieve, you know,

[10:40:18] is new to design, but for lower costs, however, you know, at those lower costs, you may have

[10:40:26] higher utility costs, because you're using sort of more energy, just with less efficient

[10:40:32] equipment, but because we do have renewable energy, contract, you know, that building would

[10:40:38] still be a mission's neutral. And then I think that's where you're referring to in our report.

[10:40:44] Okay, and I can suggest you hear that that optimization, right? And so, so we're assuming that

[10:40:49] I'm going to increase in the operating cost, is still going to be the last in the additional

[10:40:55] upfront capital?

[10:40:58] That's correct.

[10:40:59] So the upfront capital costs have quite a big impact in that lifecycle cost assessment,

[10:41:03] just because of both the magnitude of those costs as well as sort of the time value of

[10:41:10] money that we include in our assessments.

[10:41:13] So, yes, over the life cycle, it would sort of be more

[10:41:19] way towards the upper and upper costs.

[10:41:21] And then just triple check-ups as well.

[10:41:22] This is both new and buildings that we're doing.

[10:41:27] So, the primary focus right now, I think, would be on new buildings.

[10:41:31] Buildings that are undergoing renewal also sort of undergo their own assessment

[10:41:34] and energy audits.

[10:41:35] But this is also a process that could be applied there.

[10:41:42] Thank you.

[10:41:44] Councillor Jones.

[10:41:45] Thank you, and thank you all for sticking with us.

[10:41:51] I sure some of the concerns.

[10:41:54] So when I was thinking about the waiting of what I would want to see is certainly, I'd

[10:41:58] want to see utility costs.

[10:42:00] It's very clear, simple, obvious metric.

[10:42:03] I'd want to see the admissions noted.

[10:42:05] I'd want to know kind of energy efficiency and keybloss.

[10:42:08] I'd also want to know building comfort.

[10:42:11] I think I hear that those sorts of things would be considered as part of the SRW.

[10:42:16] Why is that correct?

[10:42:19] Yes, that's correct.

[10:42:22] But the question I think is the waiting to what extent are they waiting because I failed

[10:42:27] to see anything that's making it through our capital process that won't be like a social

[10:42:31] good.

[10:42:32] Like when we're talking about a library or a rec center or a firewall or something like all of

[10:42:35] them are going to have a gold star for being like a wonderful community, a community that

[10:42:39] contributes to social uplift and enterprises and everything else.

[10:42:43] What I'm worried about is that where else are we making sure that shorting

[10:42:49] Catholics doesn't date on some future objects?

[10:42:58] Like is the SLROI weighted properly?

[10:43:03] Yeah, I would say it's based off of some of the factors are based off of research in terms

[10:43:07] of what the actual societal costs are associated with those in mission.

[10:43:13] So for example, environment Canada publishes a factor and it's around for every

[10:43:19] kind of of carbon dioxide that releases a social cost of 300 dollars and that increases over time.

[10:43:24] So that's that's a like a public factor that we could use you know to sort of measure

[10:43:31] or put a dollar amount I guess to those those carbon emissions and there's similar factors that

[10:43:36] can be applied for other things like you mentioned building comfort and then utility costs

[10:43:41] that's you know based off of our estimated utility prices.

[10:43:46] Would it be too hard, because whatever we do here at either has to go up to councilor, it's referred back.

[10:43:52] Would it be too hard to kind of attach the methodology, waiting and revised procedures?

[10:44:01] So, I would say that way.

[10:44:02] If you're in a policy go to councilor, could those things be attached as a attachment to the council report?

[10:44:14] Yeah, so the procedures we're working on the afters are now, but we could provide some more information on the assumptions that go into the SRI approach.

[10:44:24] And are we still buying offsets?

[10:44:31] The city has, sorry, Councilor Jazz is just standard.

[10:44:36] The city has a 20 year green electricity contract, where we're buying renewable energy attributes.

[10:44:45] What year are we in?

[10:44:45] Thank you.

[10:44:49] Oh, sorry.

[10:44:51] How's the councilor Salvador?

[10:44:53] Yeah, thanks.

[10:44:54] I just similar question, just around procedures and assumptions and waiting and some of the methodology.

[10:44:58] So

[10:45:00] So just so I heard correctly, the assumptions, you can include that. That's readily available.

[10:45:08] We could provide more information. And then, as you're working on the procedures.

[10:45:11] One quick, so sorry, the procedures wouldn't be ready for this to go to council if it followed in the natural process, but the waiting could be.

[10:45:20] Yeah, yeah, and I was trying to pull those apart. So on the procedure side, if there was a desire to see that, we could get that as kind of a follow-up memo or something.

[10:45:28] as you're working on that?

[10:45:30] Correct, yes.

[10:45:31] Okay, would you need direction on that

[10:45:32] or is that something you can provide?

[10:45:34] That's something we can provide.

[10:45:35] Okay, great.

[10:45:36] That would be helpful.

[10:45:37] And our existing and then procedures are public.

[10:45:39] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely.

[10:45:42] Okay, I have a few different questions here.

[10:45:48] Just here on the adaptation target, I think,

[10:45:51] I really like the focus on this,

[10:45:54] Exciting to see I just want to ring around having an interim at a patient target. It's just it seems long range out to

[10:46:01] 2050

[10:46:02] Did we contemplate having an interim target and and I guess as a secondary question there like the 10% citywide risk reduction

[10:46:10] over the

[10:46:11] 24 years

[10:46:14] seemed modest. I don't know like how did we land on that?

[10:46:19] So we could come back in future years within term targets, sort of if you think about it

[10:46:25] in terms of our knowledge or learning journey similar to greenhouse gas emissions, we started

[10:46:30] with one big target and as we learned and understood, you know, the measures and the impact

[10:46:38] those measures would have, we were able to come up with in term targets too.

[10:46:42] So we think we do not need those sort of a full cycle to be able to understand and track

[10:46:49] what difference they had, but in term targets could be possible.

[10:46:55] We felt kind of technically most comfortable with having the final target until we had

[10:47:02] some more data.

[10:47:04] Yes, and the 10% is it ambitious enough, that was my first questions, but we believe that this target will have meaningful impact.

[10:47:18] It's a meaningful target,

[10:47:22] and it's based off of what we know is realistic at this time.

[10:47:26] will change and we might understand that this target is not far enough, but it's based off

[10:47:34] of sort of the science and level of action needed.

[10:47:40] And yeah, as our understanding changes

[10:47:42] we could bring back future recommendations to Council to update that target.

[10:47:49] okay that's that's good to hear I yeah it was look look forward to those future opportunities

[10:47:54] as work progresses to have yeah just some more either yeah interim targets but also

[10:48:00] sort of re-revaluation of how we can make sure that we're stretching but also being

[10:48:07] realistic around those targets.

[10:48:12] Thank you and I will move the recommendation and the report if you want to put that out for

[10:48:18] And then I will just ask a few questions.

[10:48:22] I really found it interesting about the making sure,

[10:48:27] because again, we're doing a policy at so high level

[10:48:30] and then you create the procedures.

[10:48:32] And so I don't want to get in the weeds of that,

[10:48:34] but I do want to make sure that we're not moving

[10:48:36] the goalpost like some of our speakers spoke to.

[10:48:41] So we are still really focused on things

[10:48:45] that will reduce our missions.

[10:48:48] And climate resiliency can be beyond just emission reductions, right?

[10:48:52] So that's why it's a little bit more broader because we just heard when we did the presentation from the

[10:48:57] insure, from the insurance specialists where I ask questions on 7.1 that our premiums will be

[10:49:04] dependent on how much we show mitigation for climate as well, right?

[10:49:09] So those kind of things will be factored.

[10:49:11] And I think, for example, with the existing policy, C627A, we could provide council with certainty that we were going to achieve the emission neutral outcome with providing more flexibility.

[10:49:29] We are losing some of that certainty and guarantee to achieve that outcome and how close we can get.

[10:49:35] And it's going to depend on the building.

[10:49:37] There's some buildings that are just more challenging.

[10:49:40] Some buildings, it will be very easy to achieve that sort of outcome.

[10:49:45] So through this update,

[10:49:49] where until we have gone through a number of designs,

[10:49:53] we can't give that certainty to Kiel.

[10:49:55] So but if we approve the policy today,

[10:49:58] you know, hearing some of the costumes, hearing some of the concerns,

[10:50:02] and I know you said you didn't need one,

[10:50:03] but is there, I do think that there is a benefit

[10:50:08] to having information come back with some like almost case

[10:50:12] studies of how this has been applied to the budget,

[10:50:15] because ultimately, if we see it not working for the budget,

[10:50:19] we can flag that then.

[10:50:21] I don't know if that's, because I'm guessing if we approved

[10:50:24] this today, the reason one of the things it was timely

[10:50:27] is so that it can factor into capital profiles.

[10:50:35] Councilor Rutherford, I think we would certainly look to the annual updates that could provide

[10:50:40] additional information to Council as we work with the policy and apply it and then that

[10:50:47] could be used as a means to reflect lessons learned or how we've been applying and what decisions

[10:50:55] have been made throughout.

[10:50:57] So there's opportunity to course correct then if Councilor Rutherford doesn't feel like it is.

[10:51:02] Absolutely, and I think the key studies themselves, because we would be applying them to actual

[10:51:07] capital projects, we would have an opportunity as we present the projects through the regular

[10:51:14] approval process for Council to weigh in on that as well.

[10:51:19] And if I can just, I think we want to also be sure of what is the target we're trying to achieve,

[10:51:27] So coming to that point where there's that decision.

[10:51:31] So that we're not trying to get to something overly ambitious.

[10:51:35] And then we go so far advanced into the capital project

[10:51:38] that the costs then become something that is insurmountable.

[10:51:42] And then we have like lose a period of time of reworking design

[10:51:46] and starting over.

[10:51:47] And then we're procuring construction like a year later

[10:51:51] and we're at a new price point.

[10:51:52] And so I think understanding when do we have the right

[10:51:56] amount of information and how do we get the right level of target is something that I think

[10:52:02] actually is really important in terms of the time is money to council. Okay, council or Salvador?

[10:52:13] Just a question around the changes to

[10:52:20] internal advisory groups, as well,

[10:52:26] with ETCRC notes.

[10:52:30] No longer I was curious if administration has had any conversations around having an internal advisory group as well to help inform this work and provide that expertise.

[10:52:45] Councillor, we have, knowing that Council won't, we're not looking to create an advisory group

[10:52:51] for Council, but we do and would appreciate from administration having that input from community

[10:52:56] in our local experts.

[10:52:58] So we are in discussions and working on a few different scenarios where we can really bring

[10:53:04] in that expertise that exists in the community.

[10:53:07] Right now, currently we do have the emissions neutral group.

[10:53:10] They are strictly advisory.

[10:53:13] There's no voting, they provide their input and great ideas for us and help formulate what we bring forward to community.

[10:53:20] But beyond that group we are looking at what can we do to set up a new group, not for voting or guidance, but more for input and helping us through our thinking of some of these challenges.

[10:53:32] Okay. Yeah, please, please to hear that. And sorry, the emissions neutral group that currently exists.

[10:53:39] That's the one that we heard from our speaker. That is correct. That's just an annual, like once a year.

[10:53:44] It's as needed. It has met more than once a year when we were really busy.

[10:53:48] That's something administration set up to really get some input from the community and fill some of our knowledge gaps.

[10:53:55] Okay, so this would be sort of in addition to this would be in addition.

[10:53:58] Okay, and then just wanted a quick commentary around the carbon budget versus climate budget because that's a change.

[10:54:08] So next week at Executive Committee there will be a little bit of an update on the round that process, but the idea here is now that we have a carbon budget and we are able to understand sort of those carbon or GHG impacts to also now

[10:54:27] look at the impacts on the adaptation side. So it's carbon budget plus adaptation now. So

[10:54:35] to the emissions plus adaptation. Great. Thank you.

[10:54:44] Thank you. Any other questions or anyone

[10:54:48] to speak to the motion?

[10:54:57] I go ahead, Councillor Clark.

[10:55:00] Yeah, I think the recommendation.

[10:55:02] I'm coming through with the policy updates. I mean, they're not perfect. They could be

[10:55:06] could be more of her both sides of that tonight from speakers, but I think it's a good

[10:55:11] practical, you know, systematic way to move forward. I'd like to ask her or I addition

[10:55:16] on that, I think he's not as real metric as good, and I think focusing on the positive

[10:55:21] return on investment is nice to have that in there and the greater flexibility as well.

[10:55:27] So I look forward to supporting this.

[10:55:32] Thank you, anyone else?

[10:55:36] I have nothing further at this time, so please vote.

[10:55:50] We have all the votes please display the votes

[10:55:57] and that is carried and now we will move on to item 6.1 and

[10:56:07] for anybody following the hop-along with our agenda

[10:56:15] and this one I

[10:56:19] Know this like

[10:56:21] We just a bit of somewhere we had started discussing this one. Yes, I believe you received a presentation and heard from speakers

[10:56:28] And had actually started questions of it, didn't it?

[10:56:31] Yes, we had started questions, so we're just picking up from there.

[10:56:35] But I do know that there is some in private components of anybody as questions.

[10:56:41] I know I have questions in private, but I'll wait to see if anybody else has questions in public.

[10:56:47] On this item?

[10:56:56] Nope.

[10:56:57] Okay, I will move that we go into private.

[10:57:11] section is the last time we're in 19 disclosure harmful the business interest of the third party in 29 advice for my visuals.

[10:57:22] Yes for those reasons. I knew it was the 19 I just didn't know if it was just 19. Perfect. Any questions I'm going into private.

[10:57:34] Please vote.

[10:57:35] We

[10:57:46] have all the votes.

[10:57:48] Please display the votes

[10:57:52] and that is carried.

[10:57:57] We'll just give you a few minutes.

[11:38:11] Thank you. I think we don't have any other questions on this item. There is a motion just to keep the attachment in private. So I'm happy to move that.

[11:38:31] Anyone else have any questions seen?

[11:38:36] Please vote.

[11:38:45] We have all the votes. Please display the votes.

[11:38:53] And that is carried. And now we'll move on to the final item. Item 7.2. Central area bridge update.

[11:39:03] And is it the same folks?

[11:39:07] I don't need a presentation.

[11:39:09] I don't know if the answer Stevenson had wanted it as well.

[11:39:13] But I'd be happy to go to questions given the hour.

[11:39:17] Yeah.

[11:39:17] I mean, you didn't select it anyway.

[11:39:19] Counselor Jones technically may or not act it.

[11:39:22] But you're great.

[11:39:23] My apologies.

[11:39:25] Yeah.

[11:39:26] I think that if everyone, if counselors,

[11:39:29] because there's no public speakers,

[11:39:30] I don't think we need necessarily to do the presentation unless there is interest from Council.

[11:39:36] So I'll just turn to Council and committee does anybody feel like they need a presentation on this item.

[11:39:44] Nobody online is indicating otherwise.

[11:39:46] Okay, we'll just go straight to questions of administration.

[11:39:51] So Council Jans, did you have questions?

[11:39:58] Yeah, just a quick run here.

[11:40:00] Thank you for this.

[11:40:02] Just wondering, is this going to be classified as growth of a new one?

[11:40:08] Okay, nobody from finance. I believe it is, it is going to be categorized as growth.

[11:40:15] And so what's the look, so it'd be for this budget cycle or the next budget cycle?

[11:40:21] And so the construction of the low-level bridge replacement with start in 2029 is the current schedule.

[11:40:31] And so the request for funding would come during one of the supplemental budget adjustments.

[11:40:39] I had of that.

[11:40:40] So 2028 I believe is our objective.

[11:40:45] And Joseph Donald Bridge, what's the capacity?

[11:40:50] I don't know.

[11:40:50] And I guess when do we hit capacity?

[11:40:52] That's right.

[11:40:52] I guess maybe if we could follow that up.

[11:40:54] Absolutely to the high level bridge.

[11:40:56] I had a subsequent motion there asking just about trying to get a sense of new

[11:41:01] stats and building making sure we're building for BRT and Flex and everything else.

[11:41:07] Yeah, we're well aware of your motion and the memo is being drafted as, as we speak,

[11:41:14] and that only wants to weigh and go ahead.

[11:41:17] Yeah, I was just going to jump in on this, the same Pascal.

[11:41:21] We have the memo vastly drafted for you.

[11:41:25] Councillor Jones, we have included in the memo and we're just working on some of the

[11:41:30] details of it. The usage starts for all of the various central area bridges, including

[11:41:37] looking to the future forecast and transit use passenger vehicle use and so on.

[11:41:45] So all of that detail will be included in the memo that we'll follow up from this report.

[11:41:52] Awesome. So BIRT is a two-soon state. BIRT is being contemplated for low level

[11:41:57] for your games with Donald, for high level, for...

[11:42:01] So at this point, we're still working through the mass transit planning for the BRT.

[11:42:06] We do have a little bit of work and analysis to do when it comes to the river crossing.

[11:42:12] But at this stage, we are anticipating the BRT likely to align more closely with the high level bridge.

[11:42:20] This is amazing, like three minutes just started.

[11:42:22] um yeah well uh in the yeah and then finally I guess I'm just confirmation that active modes

[11:42:31] will be considered during the northbound closure that will be take you look at all of that

[11:42:35] how we're going to redirect during construction.

[11:42:39] Yes council Jones absolutely.

[11:42:42] Okay I'm going to yield my time thank you. Thank you council or Stevenson.

[11:42:49] Thank you. I just want to get a sense of this classified as gross, sort of, again, just

[11:42:56] like we heard of that, that's funding being available versus I'm wondering if it's

[11:43:00] scenario where the J.F. Donald Bridge was expanded as out of it's for law. It was explored

[11:43:06] as an option.

[11:43:09] So, from a classification perspective, I would say that the renewal program for the so

[11:43:16] will program would not be in a place to support expansion of a bridge or a placement of a bridge.

[11:43:25] It doesn't have the capacity for this level of infrastructure and so I think the qualification

[11:43:35] of the funding may be not as critical in this case because it is most likely going to be

[11:43:45] funded and so growth or renewal. It becomes something that is outside of our renewal capacity.

[11:43:53] And Natalie can speak to the network analysis that was done to confirm that the replacement

[11:43:58] of the little level bridge was why we move forward with that, which was a previous report presented to committee.

[11:44:09] That's right, Pascal. So we had looked at the river crossing requirements when it comes to the

[11:44:14] vehicle and pedestrian and transit and active transportation uses of the river. Looking at that

[11:44:22] analysis, it was very essential that we replaced the low-level bridge, somewhat near the

[11:44:28] location that it exists today. Just for context, for the central area of river bridges,

[11:44:36] about just slightly less than a quarter of the river crossings are happening at the low-level

[11:44:42] and so it's very difficult to accommodate that on the existing bridges.

[11:44:48] Now I'm just interested in the code language where we're going to add it to that existing structure.

[11:44:54] And if I'm just wondering if that's a cost effective way to replace the capacity, then I'm going to have to put it a brand new bridge.

[11:45:00] Just just building on that absolutely, we did look at the opportunity of widening other bridges and that would cover a portion of the link capacity that would be lost with the local bridge going out of service, but it doesn't replace anywhere near what we need not only now, but into the future, we are expecting vehicle trips, transit trips, and active transportation trips to continue to expand.

[11:45:29] Over time, in the tens of thousands of additional trips and over the next 30 years, and so no matter which way we looked at it, it was still very essential that we looked at a new river crossing.

[11:45:42] We can't widen the existing bridges enough, and similarly the destinations and origins of the users that are crossing the river, this crossing was needed.

[11:45:54] Okay,

[11:45:58] another time.

[11:46:00] That's okay, you're the only one, if you'd like to do it, would you like to do another round?

[11:46:06] Um, yes, okay.

[11:46:09] Yeah, please.

[11:46:12] I was just wondering in terms of the funding mechanisms for some of the road rationalization

[11:46:18] to factor capitalized into the overall bridge decommissioning, and again in the decommissioning

[11:46:26] we deduct funded. Councillor Stevenson, when we are decommissioning an asset by replacing it,

[11:46:36] yes we are allowed to capitalize those costs. Okay great, and then just the broader

[11:46:49] So there's a lot of design work that still needs to be done to understand what the work would be directly related to the low-level bridge and what could be contemplated as either related work or subsequent work.

[11:47:05] And so those details will be developed over the next few years.

[11:47:10] And the discussions with Council will take place.

[11:47:12] As we noted in the report, there are multiple touchpoints coming in the next few years

[11:47:19] that will allow us to work through all of those questions.

[11:47:23] Okay.

[11:47:24] You have a little appreciate that.

[11:47:25] And then just from the initial review, do we anticipate any of your land acquisition

[11:47:32] and being required, or, yeah, just want to let that be a approach in landing.

[11:47:39] Now, Lincoln confirmed, but I don't believe so.

[11:47:42] That's right, Pascal. So we're working within the footprint of the land that the city already

[11:47:47] stewards. So at this point in time we're not expecting any land acquisition and in fact some of the work that

[11:47:54] we're doing we're looking to pre-ups some of the land in a river valley for other uses, perhaps we're trying to make

[11:48:01] Please.

[11:48:01] Okay, well thank you so much for letting me push it out.

[11:48:05] Thank you, Councillor Jones.

[11:48:08] Yes, sorry.

[11:48:09] Two more questions.

[11:48:11] What's what's the delton making it beautiful?

[11:48:13] They get about the water data there.

[11:48:16] Are we talking like 1% to 5%.

[11:48:20] It could be significant more than that if we were looking at a signature bridge.

[11:48:25] I don't have an exact number off the top of my head.

[11:48:32] I know that we've talked about, you know, significant percentages over and above the existing cost.

[11:48:39] But we would be, pardon me, not the existing cost.

[11:48:41] Over and above a functional cost, but it really can vary quite significantly depending on how signature you go.

[11:48:48] You know, there's varying degrees of what a signature bridge could look like and the impacts of that.

[11:48:53] So, and it is a bit of a spectrum.

[11:48:56] And Councillor Jans, in this case, because the product is looking to maintain the historical

[11:49:02] bridge, one of the reasons that the functional bridge is also being advances that it allows

[11:49:08] for the existing level bridge to be the center of attention in that crossing.

[11:49:14] Okay, I understand.

[11:49:16] And finally, just with the daylighting, no crecabies, Lord, where is it going to be explored

[11:49:20] kind of for lack of a better term, a partial or sectional daylighting like maybe some of it

[11:49:27] towards the North portion would be daylighted, but maybe some of the other portions still

[11:49:31] have to remain underground.

[11:49:36] Yeah, I can jump in on that and it's the first focus for us is working on the most central

[11:49:42] piece of the infrastructure that needs to be replaced and that's the time, the time-sensitive

[11:49:46] piece of the low-level bridge replacement. With that, we will most certainly have to adjust

[11:49:53] the north approaches. And so there is a good opportunity on the north side of the river for us to

[11:49:59] do a look at what that could look like from a de-leading perspective. It's a south side where

[11:50:05] the mill creek ravine, for example, and the de-leading city has a lot of opportunities identified.

[11:50:11] But we are going to be changing the south connection point to significant leads.

[11:50:18] So the opportunities we will be looking at, but the timing of them is not necessarily going to be directly aligned with the Bridge Replacement.

[11:50:27] They could follow. So we'll be focusing on the Bridge Replacement first and then as well as the day-learning examination in parallel with the planning study and then the timing of the rest of that will be determined as we go along.

[11:50:40] And there's a potential for this included as part of the

[11:50:44] what mitigation work, of course doing.

[11:50:48] Those are welcome.

[11:50:49] I got that up all up.

[11:50:50] Okay.

[11:50:54] Thank you.

[11:50:55] Councillor Salvador.

[11:50:57] Yep.

[11:50:58] Thank you.

[11:51:00] Just building on that question.

[11:51:04] I, yeah, very interesting.

[11:51:06] The day lighting conversation as well around

[11:51:08] Milk Creek and just wanted to understand.

[11:51:13] Yeah, how this work is intersecting with, I know, on the climate front, we have some work coming forward around climate implementation priorities and I believe there is contemplation as part of that report around, around daylighting and, you know, mitigating erosion river river related work and just wanted to make sure that those two bodies of work are talking to one another.

[11:51:41] and also forecast I intend to move a motion at one of those upcoming conversations about

[11:51:48] day lighting and just want to make sure that it's intertwined and we're not kind of talking

[11:51:52] past each other as this work continues.

[11:51:55] No, we can absolutely assure you, Councillor Salvatore, that the conversations will be happening

[11:51:59] with all those considerations in mind and responding to Councillor Jans with up core as we look

[11:52:06] flood mitigation, delighting opportunities. What Natalie was mentioning is that the immediate

[11:52:13] need for infrastructure replacement of the low-level bridge, as we have moved forward

[11:52:21] between the previous report that the replacement was the way to go, and this report which

[11:52:27] starts to show you the alignment and what the...

[11:52:30] The bridges anticipated to look like. While we have opportunities to look at the south connections, it may not be as necessary for the low-level bridge replacement as we may have previously anticipated, which means that we may be, we would be looking at more of a phase than the long-term plan for those south approaches that would incorporate daylighting and could be part of a bigger project, whereas the bridge replacement itself might move forward faster than that.

[11:53:00] Okay. Thank you for the clarity.

[11:53:04] Thank you. And with that, I'm not seeing any other questions on this item.

[11:53:14] And this was a receipt of information report. So thank you for sharing this information with us.

[11:53:21] And look forward to hearing more about these projects as they progress. And because we do not have time,

[11:53:27] I did mention that any sort of potential subsequence we would do as notice is a motion if we got close to time so I know Councillor Salvatore has

[11:53:37] had a subsequence that you'll convert to a notice a motion on item sub subsequent that would have been a subsequence to 7.6 please go ahead and give your notice

[11:53:52] So we're just finding it here, so

[11:53:58] I guess this would be at the next regular council meeting.

[11:54:02] I would move, or you want to do exactly well, you could do exactly.

[11:54:05] Am I still within the time limit to do exactly?

[11:54:07] Yeah, yep, yep.

[11:54:09] So at the next executive committee meeting, I'll move the administration prepare for consideration during the

[11:54:15] 2027 to 2030 by deliberations, options for increasing funding for capital profile, CM20-03030,

[11:54:22] to complete all remaining groups identified in attachment 3 of the August 2026, August 26,

[11:54:28] 2026, infrastructure services report, IS-03688 and an unfunded capital profile that

[11:54:35] continue the implementation of the by-plan and formed by the Fourth Coming Act of Transportation

[11:54:39] Implementation Guide.

[11:54:44] Thank you and then I think that Councillor Jans also has a notice of motion and I just wanted

[11:54:49] to get clarity that it would be five clear days to the next urban planning committee because

[11:54:53] do count the weekend in that. Yeah. Perfect. So you could do the notice to debate that at the next

[11:55:00] urban planning committee, Councillor Jens and I will thank you. Yeah, thank you. Your notice.

[11:55:07] I'll give. If you can hear me, I give notice that at the next urban planning committee,

[11:55:13] we will debate that administer that administration undertaker review and update of the complete

[11:55:18] States and other relevant guiding documents through applying active transportation design

[11:55:23] semifz for active transportation network expansion neighborhood renewal and other relevant

[11:55:26] capital programs including standardizing bi-directionizing bi-directional lanes of the

[11:55:32] preferred on-street facility with clear parameters for when alternatives of what we considered.

[11:55:37] And secondly, revising options to allow the stacking of minimum and constrained standards

[11:55:41] on existing streets with reference to the design domain concept design exception process

[11:55:46] kind of all of the community values and informing decision making and return to know that's it.

[11:55:54] Thank you and then I'll just look to my committee members, are there any other notices emotion

[11:55:58] or motions without customary notice?

[11:56:04] Not hearing any with that. We are adjourned at 858.

[11:56:10] Thank you everyone and thank you very much. Thank you very much chair. Thank you very much staff.

[11:56:15] Thank you for everyone who stayed.

[11:56:17] Yeah, that's what I would like.

[11:56:19] Good night.

[11:56:20] Thank you for the willingness to have clerks,

[11:56:24] switch over and be able to stay later and do that shift.

[11:56:26] And thank you to city staff that stayed on for the duration of the meeting.

[11:56:31] So have a good night everyone.

[11:56:32] We are adjourned.

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