Edwardsville City Council Meeting 3/9/2026

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[0:02] This conference will now be recorded.
[0:16] Please call roller >> here.
[0:20] » Here
[0:27] » um item four on the agenda is consent agenda which is approval of minutes from
[0:32] February 23rd and a statement of bills paid $1,91,570.17.
[0:44] Mayor, if there are no questions or comments, I'd make a motion to accept
[0:47] the consent agenda items 4 A and B. >> Second.
[0:52] » Have a motion from Councilman Shrial. Shrivever, a second from Councilman
[0:56] Mullen. Will the clerk please call roll? >> Yes.
[1:00] » Yes. >> Yes.
[1:03] » Yes.
[1:08] Item five on the agenda, requests or comments from the public.
[1:14] Then you'll start with your name and address, please. You'll have three
[1:17] minutes. And when you're getting close to time, I'll give you a signal up here
[1:20] to wind it down. >> All righty. Dave Johnson, 1205 South
[1:24] 102nd Terrace, Edwardsville, Kansas. So, uh, on the, uh, agenda here for you
[1:32] all, I'm seeing, uh, the talking about roads, and I just want to throw in my
[1:38] noted concerns for 102nd Street that, uh, talked to most of you all about.
[1:44] It's way overdue. So, uh, I have a compliment for the fellow
[1:51] that's been, uh, going doing the the trimming of the easements. He has just
[1:57] been doing an absolute awesome job. I stopped I stopped and
[2:03] actually talked to him and you know most of the times those guys will go down and
[2:07] just kind of kind of brush along the the side of the road but this guy has been
[2:12] in depth and doing a great job. I just want to say that. So, and then cropy
[2:19] appraisals
[2:22] insanity the UG state of Kansas 3% cap. I hope it
[2:29] gets passed because uh $39,000 increase for one year, $120,000
[2:38] uh for the last three years of my property.
[2:41] And the thing is, it's meaningless to me. I bought this house in 1994 and I'm
[2:48] not selling it. I'm never going to realize that kind of money. That's my
[2:54] They're saying my house is worth I'm going to be getting the Eversville
[3:00] ambulance is going to be rolling me out of my house. That's how it's going to
[3:03] be. I'm never going to sell my house. But
[3:09] the mail comes next year. The mail comes. So, I hope the state which the 3%
[3:15] I don't know if that's state, county, city, I don't know what it all means,
[3:20] but I hope it passes. That's all I got. Thank you.
[3:25] » Thank you.
[3:31] » No other comments. We will move on to item number six.
[3:38] City council to consider approval of resolution 20263.
[3:42] resolution authorizing the city of Edwardsville, Kansas to construct
[3:45] certain main trafficway improvements and the issuance of general obligation bonds
[3:50] of the city of Edwardsville to pay the cost thereof.
[3:53] » Mayor, thank you. Mayor Council will introduce in order here Clayton Kelly,
[3:57] our financial adviser, has been advising us a path forward to receiving these
[4:02] funds. So, I'll leave it to him to explain.
[4:05] » Thank you, Mark, and mayor and council members. Thanks for allowing me to speak
[4:09] tonight. Um, as you've noticed on your agenda, there are three action items um,
[4:14] authorizing resolutions for this evening. Um,
[4:19] essentially they're all tied together. Uh, I will address really the third one
[4:22] as part of this. Um, and then I believe Bridget is available here to give a
[4:26] little bit more information on the other two after I'm done uh, kind of sharing
[4:30] the from the financial side. But really, it's in terms of that third action item
[4:37] coming up in relation to the bond resolution, bond sale resolution. Um, if
[4:42] we go back to the 2023 general obligation temporary notes, uh, that's
[4:47] really a a piece of this financing plan. Um, so just a reminder, we issued $5
[4:54] million um of general obligation temporary notes
[4:58] uh, back in 2023. We set those up to where they had a
[5:03] bullet mature maturity in June 1 of 2027.
[5:07] So what that essentially means is it gave the city the flexibility to provide
[5:13] the funding before securing permanent financing. As those projects are
[5:18] completed that were funded in the 2023 temporary note, we essentially can
[5:23] redeem a portion of of that temporary note for permanent financing. So, um, a
[5:28] reminder on the projects that were funded, 98th Street phase 1, uh, through
[5:32] that 2023 temp note, Kansas Avenue, Richland Avenue, and 106 Street Main
[5:39] Traffic Way. Uh, so 98th Street phase 1 is complete. Um, as well as uh, Kansas
[5:46] Avenue. So, because both of those projects are complete, we have final
[5:50] cost. we're able to now roll that portion of the temporary note into
[5:55] permanent financing. Um, so that's really one piece of what's being
[6:00] authorized tonight through the sale resolution. Um, and that's over a
[6:04] 20-year financing. In addition to that, uh, there are street projects um,
[6:10] included in the these first two uh, resolutions that will allow for
[6:14] financing to occur. In total, um, we are expecting about $1,970,000
[6:23] for the temp note redemption being financed and then $1,820,000
[6:30] uh for the street projects in total. So, a combined financing amount of
[6:35] $3,790,000. Uh so essentially what the uh third
[6:40] resolution authorizing resolution this evening does is it allows the city to
[6:46] move forward with securing financing for that bond or the permanent financing of
[6:50] those projects. Um so essentially the process for that after this meeting uh
[6:56] Mark and Doug will work towards work with us to secure the credit rating uh
[7:00] for the financing on all the lake work that goes into that. Um, and then we'll
[7:04] essentially come back um at your April 13th meeting uh with the bids that were
[7:09] received uh the final uh interest rates for those financings and the final debt
[7:15] service schedules. So all that essentially allows for funding uh for
[7:19] those projects to occur uh by May 7th. So, and just uh interest rate wise, we
[7:26] have seen a little bit of volatility just with everything going on
[7:29] internationally the last couple weeks or so, but um overall perspective
[7:35] interest rate, you're probably looking around a 4% interest rate in today's
[7:38] environment on a 20-year geo bond. So, still really good time uh to be securing
[7:44] financing for these projects. Um hopefully that stabilizes and continues
[7:48] as we lock in rates on April 13th. But um yeah, this just kind of kickstarts
[7:53] that process. So happy to take any questions that you have.
[7:59] » Is 98 Street phase one accepted by the city so far? Is it ours now? I thought
[8:04] there was some kind of hold up on it. >> Yeah, there there's a slight hold up in
[8:08] that some of the kind of driveways, some of this was not quite right. There was
[8:13] some rightway uh seating saw, those kinds of things. But but the project is
[8:20] is finished and closed out. So essentially there was some leftover the
[8:24] engineering firm BHC needs to go correct a drainage problem, but they're doing
[8:29] that on their own at their own expense outside of the project.
[8:34] » Is it paid for or is that is it getting paid for with this?
[8:38] » No, we've already paid for it. So when we bonded these when we received the
[8:43] proceeds from this temp note, that was immediately paid. That was our share of
[8:46] Kon. So actually phase one is not even in what you're bringing tonight, right?
[8:51] » So no, so phase one and that's just regarding the financial plan from the
[8:55] 2023 tent note. So phase one was funded initially with that 2023 tent note.
[9:00] We're just essentially authorizing the permanent financing. Now that that phase
[9:04] one project is complete for 98 street, >> we can relate to the public that that is
[9:09] our street now.
[9:20] Is this Mark? Is this coming off of these money that were 300 3,790? Is that
[9:26] coming through paser ratings on the way we chose the streets? Yeah, the the way
[9:32] this is structured is first and foremost, we picked the most tangible uh
[9:38] roads in our five-year capital improvement plan that we could complete
[9:42] within a 2-year period, 24 months. Okay? So, there will be other roads and we'll
[9:47] have another process just like this to finance those as well. But, we're going
[9:51] to reach, if you look on there, Castle Rock, right, where people live every
[9:55] day, they go out and see it. And those need not quite as reservicing. This is
[10:00] maybe slurry, you know, things that improve the the longevity of the road,
[10:05] some patching, that sort of thing. So, I would say in street repair, it's a
[10:09] little more minor, but it will have visual impact certainly. And now is the
[10:13] time to do it, least costly, that sort of thing. And then we have some
[10:17] restructuring that needs to be done, construction on the surf, the travel
[10:20] surface of 98 north, 9 south.
[10:45] Street. >> That's good. On the 98th Street from
[10:51] 32 highway north, that's two Kansas Avenue. This is, you know, I got this
[10:56] Friday, so that's, you know, I haven't I've looked at it, but I gota ask
[11:00] questions. Is that a grind down and and overlay on 98
[11:06] from 32 north and then on the south? Is it fixing shoulders and all of that?
[11:12] » Yes and no. I can't really speak. We need that. The pacer rating said it need
[11:16] resurfacing. Travel service was in terrible condition and kind of really
[11:21] needed improvement also.
[11:34] That's phase two. Phase two is already in. So north of that circle is already
[11:40] involved. We're moving rights. We're buying this. We're doing all these
[11:43] things. It's funded. And that will be a process where we have to come and bring
[11:48] forward some financing for the matching funds. A few million dollars for that
[11:52] particular project. Same as we did phase one. So, we're talking about phase three
[11:56] that just right north metropolitan circle to K32, the travel service is
[12:01] awful. And I would suspect if we don't make the funding line like we did again,
[12:05] you're six and seven years out from probably a project that digs up that
[12:09] road and reservices. So, Pacer PEC, our engineering firm, and their Pacer
[12:14] recommendation was to improve the travel service, the driving service of that. So
[12:18] that could involve a number of things and this financing allows us to patch it
[12:22] where we need to replace it where we need to that may be long stretches,
[12:26] short stretches, all those kind of things. south is we do have a driving
[12:30] service problem and we certainly have a shoulder problem and I don't think we
[12:34] can address that's a few million bucks because that's a very thick road
[12:37] concrete right because of the commercial but what we need to do in repairing that
[12:41] is fairly expensive and you know it it's unfortunate you know that road didn't
[12:46] last near as long as it should have but that will include include shoulder uh
[12:50] upgrades stabilization again because we just did that in the maintenance project
[12:54] uh 20 254 uh but that soft shoulder needs
[12:58] improved, strengthened, and then there's some sections of that road which need to
[13:03] be replaced. So that's this money will take care of
[13:06] that.
[13:11] Good. That's all I can say is good. It's absolutely time for these repairs to
[13:18] happen. I appreciate the comment from the from the gallery out there. That's I
[13:23] know it's been a long time waiting for that. So with that, if nobody else got
[13:29] anything, I make a motion to approve.
[13:34] » Why don't we have the bond council make a presentation?
[13:36] » That was just the financial side. >> Yeah, he's he's a math guy. The money.
[13:40] » Were there any other questions just for the sales side? Okay.
[13:42] » I'm just excited to have street. >> We all appreciate the enthusiasm.
[13:47] » Good evening. I'm Bridget Morris with Kak Rock Bond Council and my co- bond
[13:52] council and Kate Dylan. Uh so I think actually maybe this slide is not correct
[13:57] with the order of resolutions but we'll get to it all. So we have three
[14:00] resolutions for you this evening. The first one resolution 2603 authorizes our
[14:05] main traffic way improvements. So um essentially what we're doing with the
[14:09] first two resolutions we are authorizing the projects that will be bonded in our
[14:13] last resolution. So 2603 these are our main traffic way improvements um and the
[14:19] projects that will be included in the bond issuance. Resolution
[14:24] 26 20264. Those are the projects that we
[14:30] authorized under the new charter ordinance that we approved a few months
[14:34] ago and we had to wait for the process. So these are um streets uh in certain
[14:41] subdivisions who went ahead um under that charter ordinance to make um
[14:46] authorized. And then our last resolution 20265
[14:53] actually authorizes the bonds. So first we have to do our projects then we put
[14:57] those into bonds and we roll that all together and that's our last resolution.
[15:02] That's a very high level of what we're doing this evening. Um but I'm happy to
[15:06] answer any questions that you may have. >> I think the questions were answered.
[15:13] » Thanks.
[15:16] Thank you. Thank you all. >> Is that three separate motions then for
[15:21] three different resolutions? >> Make a motion to adopt resolution
[15:27] 2026-03.
[15:31] I'm not going to read it, but I need to >> cover
[15:35] second. >> We have a motion from Councilman Mullet,
[15:38] a second from Councilman Shriber. Will the please call roll?
[15:42] » Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
[15:45] » Yes.
[15:48] » Item number seven, city council to consider resolution approval of
[15:52] resolution 202604 authorizing certain street improvements
[15:56] in the issuance of general obligation bonds to the city of Edwardsville to pay
[16:00] the cost thereof all pursuant to charter ordinance number 2025-03
[16:04] of the city.
[16:09] Make a motion to adopt resolution number 20264.
[16:14] Second. >> We have a motion from Councilman Mullet,
[16:17] a second from Councilman Mullen. Will the clerk please call
[16:19] » roll? >> Yes.
[16:21] » Yes. >> Yes.
[16:23] » Yes.
[16:26] Item eight, city council to consider approval of resolution 202605,
[16:31] a resolution authorizing the public sales of approximately 3,790,000
[16:36] of principal amount of the series 2026 general obligation fund.
[16:41] » Quick question on that on that 4% you said 4% interest that's currently right.
[16:46] Is that likely? >> Yeah. So just that's just an estimate
[16:49] based on current markets. Whenever we go out on April 13th, we'll get a finalized
[16:52] rate and we bring that back to you. >> Okay. question that I want if what if
[16:56] the interest rates went skyhigh between now and then? What would our option be?
[17:02] » Yeah. So, you always have flexibility to to change the timing of the sale. It
[17:06] gets a little more complicated when you go through the competitive sale process
[17:09] where you're essentially posting a date of sale and having investors bid on that
[17:13] date. Um, so essentially if you reject a sale um and do not take the the bids
[17:19] that were received on the sale date, uh, you run the risk of them essentially not
[17:24] bidding the second time around. Um, so it's more of a relationship risk than
[17:28] anything else. Um, but I would say in terms of delaying the sale, if we need
[17:33] to, if the ne in the next two weeks, um, we see rates skyrocket and it doesn't
[17:38] make sense anymore, um, then we can absolutely delay the the sale date and
[17:43] push it back. Uh, it just delays funding for those street projects as well as the
[17:48] redemption of the existing uh, temporary notes. So, added interest cost on those,
[17:53] » which could be a risk one way or the other. Anyway, I guess you can't.
[17:58] With that, I'd like to make a motion to adopt resolution number 20265.
[18:04] » Second. >> A motion. Councilman. A second.
[18:07] Councilman Mullen. Will the clerk please call?
[18:10] » Yes. >> Yes.
[18:12] » Yes. >> Yes.
[18:16] » Item number nine. How long?
[18:20] » How long would you like? >> 20 minutes. That's all.
[18:24] So item nine, consider recessing into executive executive session pursuant to
[18:29] KSA 754319B2 for the purpose of discussing ongoing
[18:33] litigation which would be deemed privileged in the attorney client
[18:36] relationship. This would imp um include governing body, city manager, city
[18:42] attorney and litigation council. >> Yes, ma'am.
[18:44] » Uh to return at 6:40 p.m. And I just need a motion. So moved.
[18:50] » So moved. >> Second. We have a motion from Councilman
[18:54] Shrivever, a second from Councilman Mullen. Will the clerk please call roll?
[18:58] » Yes. >> Yes.
[19:01] » Yes. >> Thank you.
[19:12] » This conference will now be recorded.
[19:40] Make a motion to return to regular session.
[19:44] » We have a motion from Councilman Triver, a second from Councilman Mal. Will the
[19:48] clerk please call? >> Yes.
[19:52] » Yes. >> Yes.
[19:54] » Yes. >> Very good. City manager report.
[19:57] » Yeah. What I have for you is I I did communicate with you about a little bump
[20:01] in the road, forgive the pun, uh street sidewalk with the contractor proceeding
[20:08] regardless of their communication back to us, lacked permits. There was a
[20:13] number of pieces of evidence that suggested that they were not going to
[20:16] complete this job as they should have in the manner in which they should
[20:20] properly. And I don't believe that we would have liked the end product and
[20:24] this is why they are bonded and insured and these kinds of things. So we're
[20:28] proceeding with notice to terminate and then that that shity bond then is
[20:34] responsible for assisting in the completion of that but somewhat at their
[20:39] expense in in partnership with the city and that's not the reason of course you
[20:43] do that but that's the reason of course you have this as a contractor. So trench
[20:49] is very deep, right? There's there's some problems. Uh
[20:53] we had a language barrier. They took out their own uh well the markings that they
[20:58] should have called for again. Uh they took that out. They hit a gas line.
[21:02] There was no supervision as I listed in all those things. All these things I've
[21:06] listed to them as well. And it's impossible to cure things after they
[21:10] already happened. Does that make sense? Had we been on site, we would have said,
[21:15] "What about this? What about that?" None of that happened. Here's part of the
[21:19] confusion is there were so many different companies out there. Then then
[21:23] we did give them a notice to proceed, but they never communicated back when
[21:27] that was going to happen if they had all their stuff together because we would
[21:29] have controlled them. So then the next thing you know you have an excavator,
[21:32] but there was stuff going on out there. So it was a little confusing about who
[21:36] was doing what and then we find out hit a gas line, right? That sort of thing.
[21:39] So, it's been it's unfortunate to delay it a little bit, but I think we will be
[21:44] better off by taking this course of action. I have looped in our city
[21:48] attorney, but we're on track to terminate and then
[21:52] figure out how to finish the job. That's the biggest.
[21:58] Mark, I had did have a question on it. It might not be an appropriate question,
[22:03] but on the bidding when we get two or three bids put in front of us and 98% of
[22:10] the time we go for a low bid, is there what kind of betting goes on before
[22:15] those bids are actually presented to us? You know, maybe one of us could have
[22:20] caught that. know that that there is some public
[22:26] record search. They're at the bid opening. Uh you know, usually the
[22:29] contractors are there. It's a sealed bid. And so our job is to give you the
[22:33] lowest andor best. There was no reason that they were not the best with the
[22:37] lowest bid. There's no there was no uh disqualifiers presented in any of their
[22:42] material, any of their reputation known to us. And so we did give you the best
[22:48] which happened to be the lowest bid. Now these things happen is really it we have
[22:53] a contractor who's then subbed out in and somewhat contrary to the rules and
[22:58] regulations within their their contract. So that's part of the problem that we're
[23:02] having and usually when things are done right at the front end and Shantel our
[23:08] permitting clerk knows this stuff as well uh that we catch these things
[23:12] before they happen. However, this was kind of a
[23:16] it was just a kind of co-mingling of of a number of things in which the company
[23:22] may not have procedurally done things like.
[23:26] So, as as far as what we did with this bid, we gave you what we thought was the
[23:31] best, which happened to be the lowest bid, and this is particular company.
[23:36] » Yeah. I mean, I'm not pointing fingers by any means whatsoever, but in my
[23:40] experience is lowest isn't always the best. A lot of times you have to kind of
[23:45] argue for the next bit up or something. You know, maybe we didn't do our d maybe
[23:49] I didn't do my diligence on trying to research that company a whole bit. But
[23:54] the more eyes that look at it, I think are better not pointing fingers or blame
[23:59] or anything. >> I think before we put it before you, we
[24:02] try to do our due diligence as much as possible. And I know that
[24:05] » and we did not advocate for the previous construction company because of the
[24:09] cost. We had a great relationship and they did great work and they were they
[24:12] were great to work. No doubt. However, you know, when you're talking 30 60,000
[24:17] of the city's money, it's our job to give you the best and lowest bid.
[24:21] » Well, that that the lower, you know, knocking the gas line out on Friday
[24:25] night or whatever night. >> No, I mean, like I say, I'm not pointing
[24:29] fingers or blaming or anything. It just it did it hit me when I saw that, you
[24:35] know, because we don't usually make those kind of mistakes with any
[24:38] contractor. >> Yes, sir.
[24:39] » Thank you. >> Okay. Council comments. Councilman
[24:43] Triber. >> All right.
[24:47] » Um, will you make it a point to relay the
[24:52] compliments to our public works employee?
[24:56] » I'm not quite sure. Maybe it might be a few of them or whoever it is. on behalf
[25:00] of all of us in that public comments. That is very nice to hear. Very nice to
[25:05] hear. >> We have good equipment operators, not
[25:08] just people driving things around. So, they're very good. I'm proud of
[25:12] » Well, that feedback is tremendous. We appreciate
[25:14] » Thank you. you pass that on. Um, just want to take just a couple of minutes if
[25:19] you could on page five of six of the budget report
[25:26] or the bills
[25:30] under the general fund, the library line item
[25:36] 506.
[25:40] Am >> I not giving you the right?
[25:41] » Well, I'm trying to get to
[25:47] I think there's two different ones. It said it's on the the group summary.
[25:51] Sorry. So it' be toward the end. Might be the last page.
[25:56] » Oh, yeah. There's >> Sorry, the last page.
[25:58] » Oh, it is. It skips from one of two to 506. You're absolutely right.
[26:03] So on the library line item, >> so that original budgeted amount,
[26:13] » where does that go? >> Well, the library was created as a
[26:19] department of the city and which will have expenditures this year. So it has
[26:23] to be budgeted and that will will go towards the uh librarian that will be
[26:29] hired at the last quarter. So, there won't be any expenditures out of this
[26:32] particular one until after September. >> Gota. I just wanted to recap that and
[26:36] that's what I that's what I figured it was, but I just wanted a small
[26:40] refresher. That seemed like that was forever ago
[26:43] » because that's September, October maybe. >> Yep.
[26:46] » Okay. >> Oh, perfect. Um,
[26:51] all I have excited for the roads to get worked out.
[26:54] » Yes. >> That's very exciting.
[26:57] » All I have
[27:00] to follow because I can find something else. I do
[27:06] appreciate the uh compliments from the residents about the
[27:12] parks and the getting the streets fixed. I'm really happy about that. That
[27:16] definitely needs to be put in the hot shot so people can know what to expect
[27:21] coming up. You answered my question that I was going to ask you on the vetting
[27:26] process.
[27:30] That's all. Thank you. >> Councilman Everheart, no comment.
[27:35] Councilman >> Mullen,
[27:36] » no comment. >> Okay. Um, Edwardsville mobile pantry is
[27:41] coming up this Saturday. So, we have signups through Wednesday. Um, if you
[27:46] know anyone in need, it's a great opportunity for to serve our community.
[27:50] Um, groceries specifically. uh was excited to see lots of people using our
[27:56] sidewalks that we put in recently. Um especially with the sunshine, people are
[28:00] out and about and using them. So, that's always nice. And uh watching some
[28:04] videos, I was just wondering if it would be possible to get another microphone
[28:09] for the microphone stand here. It would just pick up that
[28:12] » we actually have to use this one over here. If you add one more, it'll be just
[28:16] nothing but feedback. >> Oh,
[28:18] » yeah. That was the assessment some months ago when we said, "Hey, can we do
[28:21] more?" We can't add any more microphones for the room this size. So, we will I
[28:26] think we'll just make a habit of putting two on the table after the comments.
[28:30] » Okay. Yeah, that'll be fine. >> We need to hear John. Is that right?
[28:36] » The mic has >> I don't need to be recorded, but I think
[28:41] John Paul says I do. Um the last thing um that that I've
[28:48] noticed a lot of emails, news, things uh discussion is the FIFA World Cups coming
[28:54] up. A lot of cities are making preparations. We don't have a whole lot
[28:57] of tourism. Um we have a couple of restaurants that people can come um to,
[29:02] but we also have uh some short-term rentals in the city, and that's uh
[29:06] VRBO's, Airbnbs. Um and that's a great opportunity to get transient guest tax
[29:12] to help. And so I thought it'd be a good time to kind of rework that. I know a
[29:16] couple years ago um we our maybe it was our codes person went through and looked
[29:22] at the different websites to see the uh short-term rentals in Edwardsville. And
[29:27] so, um, we want to make sure that our short-term rentals are going to put our
[29:31] best foot forward for our city, make sure that they are, um, where they need
[29:36] to be, but then also that's a great opportunity when we're having
[29:41] hundreds of thousands of people come in the area, um, to showcase those and, um,
[29:46] say, "Hey, come stay in while you're in the while you're in the state." So, um,
[29:51] just wanted to maybe do a little bump on that. Think about ways we might
[29:55] highlight those on our website or in the hot shot. Well, the hot shot probably
[29:59] won't be great for out of out of the area people coming in, they
[30:03] won't get those emails, but um they a lot of them are looking at websites and
[30:07] social media and stuff. >> Maybe it is in that we're talking
[30:11] private businesses, that sort of thing. You just need to be careful. Maybe
[30:14] there's a link to maybe the chamber of commerce who might be able
[30:18] just I'll speak with Josh and make sure we're doing on the other and the only
[30:22] thing you need is a business license at this point.
[30:25] » Okay. >> Business license so you pay your transit
[30:27] guest tax and you have a license business.
[30:30] » Okay. And we might look at those two and just say okay is this you know do we
[30:34] want one for parcel or you know making sure that we're
[30:39] having clean and hygienic places for people to stay. So
[30:50] » there's pending legislation as well to that would affect potentially the extent
[30:55] to which cities can regulate that. So I'll review that as well. But if there
[30:59] are any ideas that you have of wanting to make sure I can look.
[31:03] » Yes, that's correct. Sounds great. We are out before 7. Have a great night.