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[0:58] Pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which

[1:04] it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[1:10] for all.

[1:16] » Sorry, I got your comments.

[1:22] All right.

[1:28] Um, roll call. >> All right. Uh, chair Gina Marie Warren

[1:32] » here. >> Uh, Vice Chair Kenna Collins

[1:34] » here. >> Uh, vice sorry, uh, council president

[1:37] Terresa Schaefer >> here.

[1:39] » Councelor Tiffany Lambert >> here.

[1:41] » And council member, sorry, committee member Dorian Baker

[1:44] » here. >> Promoting you.

[1:47] » We do have a quorum. Madam Chair, >> um do we have anything to revise or

[1:53] approve of the agenda? >> Not really. Um there was something the

[1:57] council referred to us at the previous council meeting, so I called it old

[2:00] business, but otherwise

[2:09] » So there there needs to be a motion to approve the agenda.

[2:12] » Okay. I motion to approve the agenda. I'll second.

[2:20] All in favor? >> I I

[2:29] » All right. Oops.

[2:34] Old business.

[2:39] » Excuse me. I'm so sorry. Any old business you want to follow up on?

[2:42] » Is there any old business you want to follow up on? Thank you.

[2:46] So, the at the city council meeting, we were going to uh prepare a community

[2:53] event preparation checklist. >> Yeah.

[2:55] » And I'm assuming we're going to do that today or start on it.

[2:59] » Yeah, we start on it. Uh the idea is to figure out what things should the city

[3:03] plan on doing before there is an event downtown. Um I think uh some ideas.

[3:08] » You have some ideas. >> I'm all ears.

[3:12] » Well, things definitely need to be weeded.

[3:16] just before events, but um cleaned up, the trash needs picked up, our red

[3:22] garbage cans need to be changed. >> Um so I I mentioned before the last

[3:28] council meeting that to have possibly a school organization um paint the tops of

[3:33] those cans. >> I love that idea.

[3:35] » Um to add a little bit of art to town because I've been a big pusher of art

[3:39] and it gives the opportunity to make one each different.

[3:42] » Nice. Yeah, I like that a lot. So, um, obviously we need to make sure that the

[3:48] trees are pruned so that they're safe. >> What about the street sweat?

[3:54] » No, this is for parks. >> Oh,

[3:57] » well, it's downtown. I mean, yeah, street sweeping.

[4:00] » It's more like the I've tried so many times to get money for street.

[4:05] » Someday someday the billionaires in DC will stop logging in each time.

[4:09] » The trees so you can walk down the side. And

[4:12] » yeah. Um, so we need to obviously there's no reason our

[4:18] public works can't use a leaf blower and clean off the sidewalks and

[4:24] um we

[4:29] obviously the lawns need mow. I mean general maintenance on things is

[4:34] not reaching for the stars. is the upkeep of the city uh areas uh something

[4:42] that the uh public works already has uh on their list of things to do so that

[4:50] » you don't need to do like a special thing

[4:53] » like a maintenance list instead of just doing it like

[4:57] » yeah like one big thing just doing it like regularly monthly or something just

[5:02] to go over >> maybe somebody drives through and really

[5:05] likes our area without a big event. >> Yeah, I like that idea.

[5:10] » It's a fascinating question. Doesn't have a good answer.

[5:13] » Well, because we don't have job descriptions right now.

[5:16] » So, yeah. So, three years ago, the city adopted new job descriptions across the

[5:21] whole entire system for everybody who is here. Um, that included public works and

[5:26] our understanding was the public works job descriptions we had on hand included

[5:30] maintenance of all city properties. There is one dedicated maintenance

[5:33] person and that is all he does. Whereas public works maintains the water and the

[5:37] sewer and the streets, we had an understanding based on those job

[5:40] descriptions that this was part of their job as well. However, uh turns out all

[5:44] the job descriptions that were rewritten three years ago were simply lost.

[5:48] They're all gone. They weren't put in people's personnel files. They had been

[5:52] signed by city employees. They had been signed by two members of city council

[5:55] each and whoever was running the city government at the time administratively

[5:59] gone. >> We don't know what happened to it. So to

[6:02] answer your question, there are new job descriptions being

[6:05] » written up and they will be signed. But as of right now, no.

[6:09] » Is anybody saying it's not my job? >> No, that's not what we're getting. It's

[6:14] the one person whose job it definitively is.

[6:17] » Um is also stretched a little bit right now.

[6:20] » Um our ordinance officer's position was changed a few months ago so that they

[6:23] spend they're allowed to spend half their time on other public works

[6:26] projects and they have been helping out with maintenance. Um that's been very

[6:30] helpful. We've also got uh the kids of the Oregon Youth Authority come by and

[6:33] help with maintenance uh when that needs to happen.

[6:36] » Good. So, in answer, this is simply to make sure when we have the rodeo or

[6:42] riverfest or Sasquatch Festival or downtown Trickor Treat that we have a

[6:47] checklist that they are required to go make sure those things are done and they

[6:51] are in good working order or you know, little league um parade or whatever that

[6:57] we don't have weeds growing, we don't have. But wouldn't that be the

[7:00] responsibility of the department manager rather than

[7:06] » Well, that is why we're putting a checklist together so that there is

[7:09] accountability to make sure that those things are in fact followed through.

[7:12] » Well, and I like Dorian's plan that it is a monthly thing because we were hit

[7:16] last minute with the little league thing. um our dates, you know, we're

[7:21] still trying to solidify things for other events. And um I think if we did

[7:27] it, if we made it part of the job description, they just check these

[7:30] things. We're not worrying about standing decks last minute or having

[7:33] people go in and um weedy. I mean, even though it was weeded the one time, Tony

[7:39] still went in with his weed eater and weed eat it afterwards. Like uh I'm

[7:43] talking specifically about Witty Park. So I I think if we get our checklist it

[7:48] may make it a monthly thing. Even if it's something that they don't have to

[7:50] do every month at least something's being checked off and they can say I

[7:54] just did this after >> like a universal seasonal kind of thing.

[7:57] So some things that they do during one season they don't necessarily have to do

[8:02] it like on >> well and part of one of the arguments

[8:05] for a street sweeper was the fact that things would were building up on the

[8:09] streets and going into the drains causing things with our water. And so if

[8:14] we were able to maintain that monthly in a way, we wouldn't have to worry about

[8:19] that so much in the main roads. >> Yeah, I like that idea.

[8:22] » I think they also wanted some kind of protocol on what streets would be closed

[8:28] and how we would know and who would do that, who would be responsible for that.

[8:33] Is there a way that we could put something like that on like the website

[8:38] uh like on our city website when we do have events like what streets will be

[8:43] closed and so people can also find out if they go on our website the events

[8:47] we're having the road closures the you know just in general

[8:53] accessibility and where it it will and won't happen and the routes around

[8:58] just something like a map basically just to put you know So even though yes

[9:04] monthly ideally this stuff will be done, it is nice to have a checklist just for

[9:09] events. Is the power working at Whitty Park?

[9:13] » Is you know are things weeded? Is Linda not having to mow around Whitty Park? Do

[9:19] we not have to have volunteers down at others? Are the signs kept up? Like is

[9:23] something missing? Is there graffiti? Let's do it a week before. Make sure

[9:27] that everything is in tiptop shape. Go above and beyond for those events. Well,

[9:32] it might the the only argument I still have with the monthly is if we find

[9:35] those things, there's still protocol with the city. If it's something that

[9:38] has to be done, we have to vote on it, be able to vote on it.

[9:42] » So, like if we do something monthly, if I mean checking an outlet is as easy as

[9:47] putting up a you know, like a can't think of the word.

[9:51] » A you know what you're talking about. >> Yes. Anyway, but you know what I mean,

[9:54] we could do that. Um there's the it's bit no matter what we do, Linda's going

[10:00] to be moaning. So then we should just not mess with this and let city council

[10:04] handle it in the job descriptions. >> I think we still

[10:07] » that because I ran a department for years and when my boss said this is what

[10:13] we need that was my responsibility >> write it, have it ready to go, present

[10:19] it to the higherups and they would yay or nay and then I had something

[10:24] substantial that I could use uh when it came time for their reviews. Mhm.

[10:30] » So, so >> I'm going to refer to administration

[10:34] here. Is this something that should be a city council matter where they because

[10:39] you are creating new job descriptions that just happens and it's a monthly

[10:43] checklist that would actually fall in your department of being the boss or do

[10:49] we want as a committee to come up with something that we as the committee want

[10:53] to >> Yeah. Can't you as a committee come up

[10:56] with something and then have it added to it and they can yeah adjust it or add to

[11:02] it or whatnot? >> So your thoughts as administrator?

[11:08] » It makes up both things. I think the council does like the idea of having a

[11:11] checklist and a policy that's in place so we prepared for events or having some

[11:15] timeline on our end so that we know when an event is happening. Um I know for

[11:20] Sasquatch Festival for example, I got the formal map of road closures. I think

[11:24] a week and a half before the event. So, and unfortunately the map that I got was

[11:29] like twice as large as there was actually. So, I was putting stuff all

[11:33] over the place like well this is the road closure that was approved like

[11:35] that's not where it's supposed to be. Okay. So, um in the future, you know,

[11:39] there'll be more detail to go over it with the applicant to make sure yes,

[11:42] this is actually where you want it to be. Um 30 days is usually a good

[11:46] benchmark for us to know that something is coming and we can get things

[11:50] prepared. We can get staff assigned to be there on the weekend helping.

[11:53] » Okay. >> So, there used to be an application

[11:56] view. >> There is. Yeah. So,

[11:58] » just not using them or we are >> the the we had some problems with

[12:04] a couple of things that lack of communication or not.

[12:07] » I'm not pointing fingers, but it was James' responsibility to do the street

[12:10] closures. Just as much. >> So,

[12:14] » just put them on blast. Okay. >> I'm calling

[12:17] you out. >> They're not calling anybody out. So, uh,

[12:22] you would like to have a preparation checklist that we so that they can be

[12:26] the city council can vote on it just specifically for events. So, and then

[12:31] you can work on through the city council the monthly checklist of job

[12:36] descriptions. >> Yeah. And basically what we're we're

[12:38] doing here is making a recommendation to the council of things that should be on

[12:41] the checklist so that there can be a formal policy put in place that says in

[12:45] a lead up to an event if we get this amount of lead time we can guarantee

[12:49] » these things are done. Okay. So yeah ladies sorry gentlemen what would you

[12:53] like that to include? Let's make a list. >> So we have Henderson Park.

[12:57] » Well so the sorry >> is so I I'm thinking of street signs. So

[13:02] the Henderson Park or not street signs but welcome to Elgen signs.

[13:07] It's the Pacific Pride. >> Yeah, it's that way.

[13:11] » But I don't know if it's not ours. Yeah, >> that's not city.

[13:14] » But we do have the Lions Club. >> Yeah, it's the Lions Club.

[13:17] » No, it actually doesn't belong to the Lions Club

[13:19] » in anymore. >> No, Henderson Park doesn't. They That's

[13:23] the one down by the Stampede Grounds or the Logard, right? No, it's owned by the

[13:30] fuel thing over in Pendleton. They own that and it's maintained by them. But we

[13:35] do have a sign though. >> Okay.

[13:37] » Well, I'm just thinking we need to make sure our signs are trimmed and mowed. No

[13:41] weeds. >> So, Nicholas signs

[13:46] » and trimmed and mowed because we do trim and mow that. Actually, um Oh my gosh,

[13:52] why can't I think of her name? Uh Jessica's sister,

[13:56] uh Darcy mows that. She maintains that. Um but I mean there's no reason they

[14:03] can't stop and look at that sign. So, signs trimmed and mowed. What else we

[14:07] got? >> I think the streets need to be u well

[14:13] marked like she said a map or something because uh you know maybe you have

[14:18] different streets shut for different activities and um that can be confusing

[14:24] for some. So, I think if we do a heads up with that.

[14:28] » Okay. Um, I do definitely think that the parks themselves need to be mowed and

[14:33] weeded

[14:36] and maybe leaves if you know depending on the time of year.

[14:42] Can I suggest like putting something out to the public too? Like Pride and Elgen

[14:47] or whatever. You're responsible for your sidewalk and your easements, you know,

[14:52] in the alleyways event coming. >> Ordinance too though.

[14:56] » And then I was about to say add the ordinance piece to that. Ordinance

[15:00] officers would like to are going to be pushing to make sure that your trees are

[15:04] not overhanging to make sure trimmed. We need the trees trimmed

[15:09] » because I think that the tree trimming and the weeding along the sidewalk is

[15:13] the homeowner's responsibilities. >> Um

[15:17] I don't think the weeding on the sidewalk is

[15:20] » Whose is is that the responsibility? >> The weeding on the sidewalk

[15:24] » if there's any house. >> Um yeah, some of it depends on who the

[15:29] owner is. Um >> we're mainly talking about parks, our

[15:34] parks and our sidewalks. >> Well, the

[15:37] street because we have Yeah, we have people

[15:42] using the RV park down at Cedar. We've got Main Street in use with downtown

[15:47] restaurants and gas station and so that main road and I would say even highway

[15:51] 204 being the main road, but we also have to consider like we have sports

[15:56] sendoffs and stuff too. So, I don't know how detailed we want to get with events.

[16:01] Uh Dollar Dollar General. I was gonna ask you, Alex, did they ever get their

[16:05] weeds under control? Fantastic.

[16:08] » It's getting bad again, though. >> James and someone else went down there

[16:11] and took care of it. >> Oh, did they?

[16:13] » They went down and we did it. James and one of the kids went down there and

[16:16] handled it. >> So, how do we take care of that?

[16:21] » What? >> Them taking care of their

[16:23] » complain. I think it looks great. The spring are growing every evening and

[16:26] it's green. I thought it looks great. I walked down there and I

[16:29] » we have to keep complaining I think in order for Dollar General from what

[16:34] Thomas said in order for Dollar General to keep maintaining their facilities. Is

[16:40] that am I correct? That's basically >> people.

[16:42] » Okay. So, what we have is >> storm

[16:45] » signs trimmed around signs trimmed and mowed well

[16:50] marked streets mode the parks mowed and weedated leaf blow if we need to do that

[16:55] depending on the time >> vandalism and electrical out that might

[16:59] be >> freeze trimmed uh blow the sidewalks we

[17:02] all they all have leaf blowers they can do that

[17:04] » check for vandalism too. Yeah. Vandalism. Any do we want to say like if

[17:10] something needs maintained to fix maintain it like we lost some lattice

[17:15] off of the stage it needed to be put back on like those kind of things. Is

[17:20] that something

[17:24] » the thing? So that that's one of those things I was talking about because we

[17:28] can't just >> fix those. It's funding that we have

[17:31] » right but they can at least pick it up off the ground and

[17:34] » right >> move it.

[17:37] you know, keep it neat. Yeah. Well represented.

[17:41] » Can our Can we have ordinance check with business owners that haven't maintained

[17:47] things like you know >> there's seeds downtown?

[17:51] » Yeah. >> I don't want to call them out, but it

[17:53] looks terrible sometimes. >> The one by the high school.

[17:58] » Oh, >> yes. There's weeds all over that parking

[18:01] lot down there. Um >> that parking lot across the street the

[18:05] when you're look when you're looking at the parking lots for the high school

[18:08] from >> so

[18:10] » the high school itself the right parking lot seems to have a lot of

[18:14] » that's the cities >> that is the city

[18:16] » yes that's needs to have some gravel filled in there sir

[18:20] » that's that will hopefully come with new >> new new job descriptions

[18:25] » and I don't think it's maintained because it's not budgeted and it's not

[18:29] they're just allowing the high school from my understanding to the park. Yeah.

[18:33] Yeah. >> We talking about the the parking lot.

[18:35] » Yeah. >> Yeah. That's fun. That's actually um

[18:39] that is uh >> that's what we want to make our future

[18:42] skate park. >> Yeah. Let's see. So, it's the land

[18:46] itself is residential. So, it's supposed to be used for housing.

[18:49] » Mhm. >> It's been used as a parking lot forever.

[18:51] Public works for the county used it and then we bought it and we've just let it

[18:56] be a public parking lot. >> Can we make vacation housing? the P or

[18:59] the county used a residential lot for >> they did.

[19:04] » Yeah. So >> that's where they kept their

[19:07] » this fun thing called a pre-existing grandfathered use where I'm going to

[19:11] guess the county had it as a lot before the 1970s when Oregon's atrocious land

[19:16] use maps were put in place. So because it was there then it could stay there

[19:20] now still on parking lot. So, the idea is that when things change hands or

[19:24] there's a disruption at the property, like something burns down, you have like

[19:28] x amount of time to um >> put a request in

[19:32] » to uh to keep the same pre-existing grandfathered use unless

[19:39] um yeah, you have you have a certain amount of time to maintain the

[19:42] pre-existing grandfathered use. So, like if there's a house in the business zone

[19:46] and the house burns down within I think it's 18 months, you can rebuild the

[19:50] house in the business zone. Um, if it's more than 18 months, then you can't

[19:54] build that house. Even if you got half the house built, you got to take it down

[19:57] and turn it into >> So, but that's that's listed as

[19:59] residential. I mean, >> it's all residential.

[20:01] » So, but we're getting a little off topic, but I was just saying that's our

[20:04] future. Uh, >> I know, right? I mean, there's so many

[20:07] things you could do with that. We could look at the residential

[20:10] over there. >> Back to this the preparation checklist.

[20:14] Is this just for like where the event is going to be held or is it are we making

[20:19] it accountable for >> I think the main roads

[20:23] » the the main >> coming in and out of town you're going

[20:25] to come down to the park and cool off. I think making the public involved I think

[20:30] is important too like >> look these are you know have their town

[20:36] it's all enforcement reminder this is code enforcement you are required to

[20:41] maintain. So it sounds good in theory, but getting them to do it in practice as

[20:46] a whole. >> Yeah. Getting them to do it now to what

[20:50] makes you think they'll do it now? >> Reminding that code enforcement is

[20:55] » reminded all the But as the city does more and we

[21:00] start doing more, I think naturally pride takes over and and things start

[21:04] happening because it what if go ahead? >> There's a couple routes we can go with

[21:13] this. So I I while I understand all fronts, I think it is our due diligence

[21:18] to keep reminding them even though we do because you know I I know understand

[21:22] that's beating a dead horse, but sometimes you got to beaten it a

[21:26] different way and then What we can do as a chamber is organize

[21:31] » a volunteer group, >> volunteer cleanup days.

[21:34] » When I had when I had um when when we were still working on another committee

[21:40] on some other issues, I had recommended creating a volunteer group called Elgen

[21:45] Steps Up in order to help try and build the community and see if people would

[21:50] actually get involved. >> Well, and that's, you know, that's where

[21:54] again, get the community involved. Um, that was actually brought up by Cindy

[21:59] during one of our last Sasquatch meetings. She wanted to organize a group

[22:03] to do a downtown cleanup cuz he used to do that and we told her no because it

[22:07] was like less than two 3 weeks before the event. We're like there's no way we

[22:11] can do that but let's consider it in the future. So maybe that's something we can

[22:15] shake on as a chamber. We can also remind those downtown businesses to

[22:20] » So I'm okay with the downtown business but I am not approaching citizens. No,

[22:25] that but that because that is a so I think that is something we can work on

[22:30] together and if people participate they don't and if they do they do and then um

[22:35] we were just talking at city council the other night about

[22:39] » being a little more strict on the code >> enforcement. Mhm.

[22:42] » So so >> that carrot and the stick there's the

[22:46] stick of the orphans sky coming and whacking Yeah. But we've got this guard

[22:49] of the month program now. >> Yes. And it's working great. Yeah. It is

[22:53] there any meat behind code enforcement? >> Yes, now there is.

[22:57] » Oh, yeah. >> We can actually make them pay the fines

[23:01] and stuff. >> Okay.

[23:02] » Yep. >> So, you're not approaching them like

[23:04] that like with a stick and fine just like hey, let's have some pride in the

[23:08] community and then it's almost a little bit embarrassing like when your

[23:11] neighbor's like, "Hey, you know, it's code for you to keep that cleaned up."

[23:14] Just a reminder, reminding people you are responsible for this.

[23:19] » My neighbors don't care. I know >> I live by a certain area that doesn't

[23:25] » and unfortunately we have a very very large rental market here where most

[23:29] people rent. There's usually more pride >> landlords.

[23:33] » So it's landlords. So you get into that very tricky situation, but you as a

[23:38] citizen could 100% keep posting. Let's take some pride in our thing. We have

[23:44] this event coming >> city reminding people. Well, and it's

[23:47] not that they're not going to >> I'm not asking the chamber to do it.

[23:50] This is a city. >> Yeah. But I'm just saying we can work

[23:53] together to make this happen. >> What I have for the checklist is signs

[24:00] trim to mowed, well marked streets, mowed and weed at our parks. Um leaf

[24:05] blower if we need it, the trees trimmed, sidewalks blown off. um check for

[24:10] vandalism and ordinance check in with well businesses and citizens

[24:17] before a big event. >> Yeah.

[24:20] » Um so there used to be we talked about this

[24:23] at the chamber a few times about people using hoses to clean off the sidewalk.

[24:27] They used to do that. >> They used to do the fire station used to

[24:30] » fire station used to do that and there was one person that complained. So are

[24:34] they still in business or no? No, they are not still in business, but I think

[24:39] liability now. I don't think the fire department would be willing to do that

[24:42] because it is a large liability on their part.

[24:45] » There's a gentleman that streets day and night all over town.

[24:48] » I see him. >> Yeah, we see him out there. Um, what's

[24:51] his name? I know that city. >> Bob.

[24:54] » No. Um,

[24:59] » Bobby pays him gives him money to do that.

[25:02] » Bob. >> So,

[25:04] » it's Bob. It's Bob. It's B. >> Love it. Is

[25:07] » Yeah. So, he goes around with the little leaf blower. It's

[25:11] » he out the the hang out down Mine Street down by the

[25:17] high school. >> Okay. So, this is for our Yes.

[25:21] » roots. Anybody else have anything they can think? We can always add to it

[25:25] later. >> No. Okay.

[25:29] » All right. I'll bring that to council and say, "Here's what we want to do."

[25:32] » Sounds good. Yeah. There's a spit. The state of Oregon keeps a database of all

[25:37] county and city courts throughout the state. You're supposed to say, you know,

[25:41] where's the court located phone number, email, and who's the person to contact?

[25:45] And for one court somewhere in the state, all they put down was Gertude.

[25:50] [laughter]

[25:52] » Well, that's cool. >> Not even a last name. It was just

[25:59] » Gertude and Bob. >> Aren't they impaired? Ah,

[26:04] » all right. I wish this was better news. >> What?

[26:07] » Okay. >> Oh, well, yeah, there's that. So, we did

[26:10] not get the uh streets, sorry, the the sprinkler grant that I had applied to

[26:16] CIS for intact. They told me they they denied basically all Eastern Oregon

[26:20] » even though we're in fire and drought. Cool.

[26:22] » Grant applications. They gave something to Hermiston like Hermiston needs money.

[26:25] » Good for them. >> Yeah, but that's not us.

[26:27] » I know her. Technically, it's in the 8ount

[26:31] definition of Eastern Oregon, but like >> I'm just going to say it publicly. Good

[26:34] for them. We're in a drought. We could have used sprinklers, but thank you for

[26:38] ignoring most of Eastern Oregon. >> Yeah, somebody asked.

[26:42] » Yeah, we don't have like a 60,000 fire 60,000 acre fire near us or anything.

[26:48] » So, we still have a grant coming in from the Roundhouse Foundation for um uh some

[26:55] fireproofing at the RV park. And the parks grant is still underway. And I

[27:01] feel like there's another Oh, the marine board. We applied for a grant with the

[27:05] marine board to >> Oh, cool. What's that?

[27:08] » The state marine board controls all of the state waterways in Oregon and they

[27:12] have a a small grant infrastructure construction. So, because the RV park is

[27:19] a boat launch, there is a grant to pave the eastern parking lot. So, we have a

[27:24] paid boat launch for safety and accessibility.

[27:27] » That is so cool. >> I just I think it is kind of a blessing

[27:30] though that we didn't Sorry, I need to be a little more patient. I've had a

[27:34] rough day. Um I do think it's kind of a blessing that we didn't get the water

[27:38] grant >> for sprinklers. That way we can map out

[27:42] tent areas. >> We do have time for that

[27:45] » and build a pos I did have an idea. I talked about it about having like a

[27:50] pergola kind of a outdoor sitting area. So if we

[27:55] write, you know, map something up, then we can maybe reapply for sprinklers and

[27:59] maybe they'll be generous and think of eastern organ

[28:01] » or we can find it elsewhere. >> Yes.

[28:04] » Um have we started an applica or a grant for the play structure

[28:11] for down there? >> No. So, um, the the big hangup with

[28:17] applying for grants at the RV park, it all comes down to the fact that our man

[28:21] was from the 90s. So, I would like for there to be a playground, but that is

[28:24] something that comes as part of the master plan. The

[28:26] » master plan project, >> all that jazz.

[28:30] » Okay. >> I really want to get rid of the uh

[28:34] the railroad ties. Those are a pain. >> We'll get there. We're gonna get there.

[28:40] » I have a question. And I was looking at some things when you apply for a grant

[28:46] and it says like for um a certain level. So you can apply for different grants

[28:54] for one project. So like for one just for to cover it all in rock or whatever

[29:01] for gravel ground or whatever. Then another grants. This could take years

[29:04] for stuff like this, right? Like >> yes,

[29:07] » five to 10 years. the nickel and dime the

[29:10] » unit would ensure a lot of the cookies are spun in the red sound.

[29:15] » Yeah, >> we don't like those.

[29:17] » Um, >> oh, is there any reason why we don't go

[29:20] for like wild horse grant? >> We usually uh have our influence crew go

[29:25] after that. So like last year they got a new job.

[29:27] » So they apply through the city. >> Yeah.

[29:29] » Not as well. They're they're a city agency. They're not an independent

[29:33] » Gotcha. >> entity.

[29:37] Love them. They are they are ours. >> Yep. No, I was just wondering if they

[29:41] had their own thing that they >> No, they they applied through us.

[29:44] » So, what is regional priorities? >> All right. The two big grants I wanted

[29:49] to bring up tonight. So, um there are two two big grant opportunities. One

[29:54] comes up every year two years and it's called the Oregon Regional Investment

[29:57] Fund and uh the applications just opened up for that. The other one is called uh

[30:03] they're calling it SDS. Um, so the RAF is $10 million that anybody

[30:11] can apply for it and that has to be you have to be like a local government or

[30:14] nonprofit or a tribe in Oregon and Department of Energy One is similar area

[30:20] Union and Baker County you have to apply for I think it's a $15 million pot. So

[30:25] the goal is to take a look at what can we actually apply for and do we want to

[30:30] spend money on these things? Um, do we want to appro like go about uh adding

[30:36] them to our community? So, >> first off, the both of these grants I

[30:41] found out were tied to the uh regional solutions team. So, Oregon's divided up

[30:46] by the governor's office in the different regions that have um regular

[30:50] meetings where local leaders come together and talk about problems and

[30:53] figure out solutions. The regional solutions coordinator is the governor's

[30:57] person in the community. Um, so ours is based out of Eastern Oregon University.

[31:02] They go all over the place having meetings and solving problems that

[31:04] create. The regional solutions committee came up with a group of priorities for

[31:09] Northeast Oregon. And both of these grants say you need to have it be

[31:13] focused on the regional solutions teams identified issues.

[31:18] » And what were those? >> Oh, there's five pages.

[31:21] » Okay. But we do have some things that we could

[31:24] » Yeah. Well, the one I want to build is the the James Johnson Center for

[31:28] Entrepreneurship. >> We'll get to that.

[31:30] » So, so there there's five different h um uh priority groups. The first one is

[31:35] statewide and statewide the think that the state thinks we need more housing in

[31:39] Northeast Oregon. I don't know, do we? Yes, we do.

[31:41] » Yes, we do. >> Uh locally, infrastructure,

[31:44] » we definitely need that one. >> Um so, it's industrial and commercial

[31:48] land availability and development, resilience, impact on infrastructure,

[31:52] supply chain challenges. Mhm. >> Next one up is community resilience,

[31:56] shared services, food security, uh nonprofit sector, business development,

[32:00] energy resilience. >> Because we need a shared storage space

[32:04] for all of our >> We definitely do.

[32:06] » Well, that's pocket change. >> I'm just saying we need that.

[32:10] » Um the next one is workforce development. Um, the focus is on getting

[32:14] individuals prepared to be employees, encourage more flexibility for

[32:18] employees, support EOU's grant funding for workforce readiness, uh, and

[32:23] long-term investment in education and programs for soft skills within high

[32:27] schools. >> I like that one, too.

[32:28] » Um, some of these are like they have I think certain people they're planning on

[32:32] having do them like we're not a high school, but hopefully Elgen High School

[32:36] applies. >> EOU can take care of itself.

[32:39] » Yes, they can. Uh and last one up is the stewardship economy regional food and

[32:43] fiber communities awkward >> economy shaped by the need and

[32:47] responsibility to manage for sustainability of land and communities

[32:51] highlighting the success of the rural engagement vitality center that is an EO

[32:55] thing specifically a value stream map of supply chains in the region encouraging

[33:00] steady supply of supply chain challenges or the last one development of an

[33:04] entrepreneurship center that addresses shared services for businesses with the

[33:08] stewardship we come >> okay So that's the one you want to go

[33:10] for. >> Well, I have been joking about building

[33:12] the James Center for >> There's actually several that are good

[33:16] on there. >> Yeah.

[33:17] » That we could use. >> But then we could also use all of them

[33:20] for one specific center. >> That's true.

[33:24] » So seriously, >> a lot of the stewardship economy thing

[33:27] is for E. It sounds like it's EOU. >> Yeah. So um they have numbers. I'm gonna

[33:33] pull up the I'm gonna pull up something else over

[33:38] here real quick. Um, >> so when is the deadline for these?

[33:45] » Um, they're kind of coming up this fall to work on. So, we're going to have to

[33:50] figure out real quick what we think is the best idea. So, this committee will

[33:54] advise the council on what should we move on. Should we do an

[33:58] entrepreneurship center? Should we look at commercial property development? all

[34:02] that jazz. >> I like commercial property development.

[34:05] » Well, we have a lot of land. >> We have some we have some things. I like

[34:09] that one. >> Um, and it also includes acquisition.

[34:13] » I like that one, too. >> Proposed funding tiers for construction

[34:17] or acquisition. >> Um, workforce is between 300,000 to 2.5

[34:22] million per project. Housing is 1 to 5 million per project. Business

[34:27] development is 300 to 1 million uh 300,000 to 1 million per project.

[34:31] Infrastructure is$1 to5 million per project.

[34:34] » I like that one. >> Construction and this is planning

[34:39] feasibility technical assistance consultants and programs. All sectors

[34:42] can apply for between 100 to 750,000 budget.

[34:46] » So we could we apply for more than one thing or do we have to just choose one?

[34:50] » Have to choose choose one. >> So

[34:51] » so but there are two different grants. >> We could choose two different things and

[34:55] apply through two different areas. >> Okay. with Carne Park being an income

[35:00] driven thing for the city. I think it would be huge to really improve that

[35:04] area, >> right? But we also need to uh create

[35:09] more jobs and more business for our town. We can't just pour everything

[35:14] » like the construction or acquisition. >> Yeah.

[35:16] » Not staying there with me. >> Yeah. We

[35:18] » What do you guys think about the construction or acquisition?

[35:21] » We have to be an impure. Well, we have there was one piece of land that I was

[35:27] um looking at that we could possibly do for that's about

[35:30] » the one you texted me about today. >> No, that one's a different one. But the

[35:33] four acres was the one we were talking about last week. Was it last week or the

[35:37] week before? Industrial.

[35:42] Can't spell. Holy totally don't ask me how to spell. Do you remember

[35:49] » it's over by the industrial structure too? So we can be two different brands

[35:53] for two. >> Yeah,

[35:54] » it's over by the industrial park. >> This one we could get

[35:59] » or >> but there was that then there was that

[36:02] one that was 100,000 that was that had that trailer on it. If it has the

[36:06] trailer on it that's probably means that there's water, electricity and sewer

[36:10] there. We could also put a developmental building there or something where we

[36:14] could use it to create jobs or whatever. >> Is that one zoned residential though?

[36:21] » How is it? >> I do got to see if I can figure out

[36:24] where it is again. >> So, we have had an idea about um rail

[36:31] bikes. Oh, and if we did the construction or acquisition, there is

[36:36] that building down there and it could be so much more than just rail bikes, but

[36:39] you could >> house them there. You could do

[36:42] » who owns that building down there. >> Um the silo, not the silo, the

[36:47] » it's so walking the trail. It's on the left hand side.

[36:50] » On the left hand side there that would be eighthoman.

[36:53] » Well, there's like a buggy in there. Yeah, there's it. It's

[36:57] » Well, my understand

[37:01] that >> Oh, where's our little

[37:04] » um That's Detroit right here. >> When we did the

[37:06] » this thing >> that's owned by the Walawa Union

[37:08] Railroad Authority. >> Okay.

[37:10] » So, but there's another building on this side that um where's that other one?

[37:19] » Is that it? That might be No, that's a house. But when we were doing the

[37:23] opening for that trail with Trail of Thrill and had like the barbecue and

[37:27] stuff down there, I don't even know how many times I heard people saying that

[37:30] old building would be so cool if it was a brewery.

[37:33] » Yeah. >> Hey, there's another one here.

[37:38] All that stuff. >> 445. No, we're done.

[37:43] » 425. >> Mhm.

[37:45] » Let's see. Think we're >> And it's got it's mobile home. That's on

[37:51] there. >> Yes.

[37:52] » I've been thinking of no bikes. >> Yeah.

[37:55] » Or that would be >> So that one is smack dab in their

[37:58] residential area. >> Yeah. But could you still turn it into a

[38:02] park or something else? Like a like a structure where you could use it to rent

[38:06] out for um like a you know like a a hall or something like a you know what I

[38:12] mean? Bless you if you're going to sneeze.

[38:16] » No, it's my face.

[38:21] But but that's just what I was thinking earlier when I saw it because I was

[38:24] looking at >> all kinds of stuff.

[38:27] » However, there is also um like the old Elgen TV building.

[38:33] » So, are we talking about someone with it and there's the lot next to it?

[38:38] Like we could >> Are you looking to have another hall for

[38:41] employment? I don't understand. >> Well, we can you can use it for

[38:44] anything. You can use it to um for the stewardship economy. You can use it like

[38:49] there. You can put a structure on it for any reason. You can put a structure on

[38:54] it to rent out as like a place for people to, you know, conduct business or

[39:00] a meeting or something or you can use it for um someone uh could rent it out for

[39:06] a party or something. You could do all kinds of things. It's

[39:09] » kind of like how we were thinking about putting a building down at the RV park.

[39:12] » Mhm. So the conditional uses permitted in the

[39:16] residential zone are multif family zonings,

[39:20] hospitals, churches, home occupations, parks and playgrounds, libraries,

[39:25] museums and art galleries, public buildings such as fire stations, pump

[39:29] stations, schools and community centers, neighborhood grocery stores, livestock

[39:32] or farm animals subject to restriction, and Airbnbs.

[39:36] » Well, we definitely need a playground for kids. Well,

[39:39] » the uh community center has a playground. I know, but like scattered

[39:44] throughout >> having more.

[39:46] » Yeah, cuz there's one, but that's one for one area of kids.

[39:50] » Well, we're going to put a playground on the RV park.

[39:53] » Like I don't understand employment. Like the RV park wasn't of interest because

[39:57] we needed to look at employment for >> So if we got one of these grants, could

[40:04] we employ somebody at the RV park? >> No, that's not what they're looking

[40:08] into. They're kind of kind of >> either like we build stuff or come up

[40:13] with a project that gets completed >> like

[40:17] » Okay, so we've been talking about that empty lot at the high school and it's

[40:21] technically zoned residential. >> We already own it. we wouldn't have to

[40:25] buy it if we built not necessarily a community center there but like a center

[40:30] where you could ho rent to host meetings or have birthday parties or let pe you

[40:37] know have uh what am I thinking of Saturday markets

[40:42] in or >> something of that nature to boost the

[40:46] economy um >> place to put vendors when it's smoky

[40:50] » yes EOU could host their type of job recruitment or you know do fairs like

[40:59] that down there. >> Do you know I mean not to poo I do know

[41:03] like the job fairs and stuff they like to have those high school stuff

[41:08] » different I do not well I mean yeah I was thinking because it was next to the

[41:14] high school. >> Yeah. [laughter]

[41:16] applying to this grant. Like what would your argument be? Um as far as like we

[41:20] already have the community center, we have the Stampeders building a new hall,

[41:24] we have the Graange Hall, >> um would that be would we have a

[41:28] worthwhile argument on why would we need more

[41:31] » because this one would be the change? So I just I think if we went with a

[41:38] construction or acquisition, it would be much more feasible to like put something

[41:43] that's going to generate jobs and uh tourism both like the rails

[41:49] » like that. >> Like that,

[41:51] » you know, like the >> We do own the end plot

[41:55] by the rail station. >> Mhm.

[41:58] » If we did rail bikes. Yes. We could put it right there.

[42:03] » Right. Well, because I've joked about making it a mini dog park right now.

[42:07] » A mini dog park right there. >> But that would definitely that would

[42:11] create both business and tourism and uh you know generate more interest and

[42:19] that would actually be a great location. >> So what about 48 or

[42:23] » so you know where the train station >> industrial park is in the parking lot.

[42:28] We own that piece there at the end. So the school put it as a storefront and

[42:32] stored the bites there right next to sell it to us

[42:36] » and it was right next to the opera house that maybe

[42:39] » we could ask if they want to build it >> or if they want to sell it. I mean the

[42:42] school is also able to apply for these too. So

[42:45] » yeah the school >> we could see if the school is interested

[42:47] in doing it is the one that was for >> are they but aren't they doing don't

[42:52] they have an a building out there already?

[42:53] » They do. >> Oh they do. Yeah.

[42:55] » Yeah they do. >> They've got the same lot.

[42:57] » What? But they don't. They do. But they don't.

[43:00] » They don't. Right. Okay. >> What do you mean?

[43:02] » I know they have a floor. >> And it can't move forward

[43:06] » eventually. Hope. But so there's that. I say because we like the railike idea. So

[43:14] well, >> we like the railback idea. So

[43:16] » and it creates jobs. It creates tourism. And we could put it right there at the

[43:20] end. Like Tiffany said, that's a perfect location that I think we should try for

[43:24] this construction or acquisition because we just need the construction.

[43:29] » How profitable is it rail? But I've read that I love

[43:32] » you should I think it would break a lot.

[43:36] » You know how many people drive an extra 13 miles to do it?

[43:39] » Yeah. >> Mhm.

[43:40] » You know what I mean? >> I did.

[43:41] » I wouldn't want to drive an extra 13 miles. I was wondering if there was

[43:45] » so how it works is that of course we get we

[43:49] purchase the rail bikes but then for each rider we pay

[43:53] » Joseph Branch Rura uh a certain amount I don't know we'll just say $10 is what

[43:59] we're going to say. So each ticket sold we pay them a portion of it and then we

[44:03] can use it. So obviously days when they're running the train we can't rent

[44:06] out the rail bikes during those times. >> We can after they're done

[44:09] » but we can after they're done. And so this it is just a this one's a no

[44:14] Tiffany and I Tiffany and I have been like this one.

[44:17] » Just to clarify before we go on is we're talking about so the

[44:22] the government would buy a plot of land. The government would build something on

[44:27] that plot of land >> and then we get grants for the rails.

[44:30] » Somebody gets who's going to own the is it going to be a city and the city's

[44:35] going to do a real bike like >> that was my question. Yeah,

[44:38] » I think I don't think the city needs any more.

[44:42] » No, it doesn't, but it doesn't. >> Okay, Tiffany and I will buy the rail

[44:46] bikes >> and rent the space from you.

[44:49] » I love the idea, but I don't think that the city should open.

[44:52] » No, then employees. Does it employ though? Not

[44:56] very many, right? >> Well, it's more than a community center.

[44:59] » It would be a seasonal employment. And I think they have

[45:03] It depends on if you do assisted or non-assisted. Mhm. And I'm not sure I I

[45:09] can we can call, but that's not we we should for the grant.

[45:12] » Incredible to look at tourism and bringing people to town. So

[45:16] » So I think that's a >> I like that one.

[45:20] » What's the other one we should apply for?

[45:21] » I don't know. So I basically there's there's two grants that you can use for

[45:26] the same prior for for the same pool of priorities. So

[45:30] » I like this a lot. >> Um the other one the regional

[45:33] infrastructure fund um pull it up. [sighs]

[45:43] » What is this for? >> It's so it's

[45:47] the regional infrastructure fund. Again, it's the same list of priorities, but

[45:50] it's a different pot of money. So, this one comes from the legislature. The

[45:53] other one came from the bed. >> So, this one we could maybe use to buy

[45:59] rail bikes. >> Well, that's

[46:02] exactly what they're they're going for. So, could we use this for sidewalks to

[46:07] connect the sidewalk from to the river to downtown to the other park?

[46:13] » There is a state grant that will cover that. That's one I've got in mind to

[46:16] work on next year, >> but this one won't.

[46:18] » Why does

[46:23] » we have to manage for a roundabout? [laughter]

[46:28] Let's put one construction isn't for construction

[46:34] in relation to one of the the priorities there.

[46:37] » Okay. >> So it can't just be anything you can

[46:39] dream of. It has to be on the list like the James Johnson Center for

[46:42] entrepreneurship.

[46:45] » So the manage sustainability though. >> So it's a rural engagement holiday

[46:51] center. Go back to one more. >> This won't

[46:54] » focus on prepared. No, one more time please

[46:59] infrastructure. There it is. Industrial and commercial land availability and

[47:03] development. So there we go. We have the land there for development and

[47:09] resilience and impact on infrastructure community shared food. So maybe we could

[47:14] get it to upgrade our um

[47:20] food bank. Have you seen that thing? Or build a building for their food bank.

[47:26] » Well, see, even that $2,000 uh property, you can use that to build a new food

[47:30] bank and have it somewhere where >> But there is a property direct that's

[47:34] vacant directly in between where the food bank is and the Elgen TV.

[47:38] » Is that two stories or one? >> It's twotory.

[47:40] » See, at the bottom be the food bank, the top be the James.

[47:43] » There you go. [laughter] But we could build a new one because

[47:47] that one's >> the church.

[47:50] » No, there's a the church is one more over.

[47:53] » Okay. >> It has to match his license plan,

[47:57] » but that's shared services, food security, like business development.

[48:03] » I think you have a solid plan with the sidewalks just because like um

[48:08] » I don't think it'll work for this though.

[48:11] » Well, sidewalks are infrastructure. It's like one of your main I mean that's your

[48:15] road infrastructure is is very specific. industrial and commercial land

[48:20] availability and development. >> Talked about transportation that

[48:24] probably would >> but so we could do

[48:28] » I was just thinking we have like our grocery stores and the accessibility

[48:32] crossing the main highway with no sidewalks on the other side and I don't

[48:37] know I would say that would be like a good

[48:40] » example or argument but >> I think we also need to build more jobs

[48:43] to >> but we could do that one for the

[48:46] community resilience. I think we could write it for community resilience too

[48:50] for the second one. >> Invite people to

[48:53] » I think we could do that. I think we could do that. Both of those.

[48:56] » Community resilience for >> It' be nice.

[49:00] » Energy resilience. >> The community resilience for food

[49:04] security. I think we could get that if we could see who owns that land in

[49:08] between and get the food bank in a better

[49:12] » building cuz that one's I don't know if you've been in there to volunteer.

[49:16] » No, I have. Uh that so energy resilience though is that it like solar other means

[49:24] » probably but they won't >> because like if if the power goes down

[49:28] here it's down so >> we would have

[49:34] but do I mean just thinking do we have any you know we could use that for um uh

[49:41] that argument for why is my brain broken >> um

[49:46] for warming shelters or centers. Um cooling when it's too hot.

[49:54] » What about for the city buildings? >> Solar solar power for the city

[50:00] buildings. >> Solar power for the RV park.

[50:05] » Oh yeah. >> So we could have a charging station down

[50:08] there. to build a structure that is for a pavilion that is roofer

[50:15] » and you have picnics under there

[50:19] multi-purpose [laughter]

[50:22] » and like I said charging station another charging station because we generate

[50:26] income from the other charging station >> and I've seen a few of those cars by

[50:32] » I like those >> we got $33 this month

[50:34] » hey we we could make it 66 We could [laughter]

[50:39] » we could you >> I think that

[50:43] a charging station at the RV park would >> be more um

[50:48] » useful >> visible

[50:50] » and would be used more. >> I didn't know it was I didn't know we

[50:53] had one already until I started >> draw people to the RV.

[50:57] » So when do we need to uh >> tremendous on this go down there right

[51:01] now >> like tonight soon? that would be ideal.

[51:06] Make sure the council's got an idea, but >> so um we we need to do this tonight.

[51:13] So, um we can apply for two different ones uh for we have two different

[51:18] grants. We can apply two different ways. I really like the construction and

[51:21] acquisition one because putting uh I think rail bikes in eventually would be

[51:27] a great thing. What do you guys think of that one?

[51:30] » I think that was great. Can the city do that though?

[51:33] » No, they can put the building up. >> They can put the building up for

[51:37] » Can you bring bring that one back up to the screen that she was talking about?

[51:42] » The construction construction and acquisition.

[51:44] » Um, >> how can the city do that?

[51:48] » They can put the building up. >> How?

[51:49] » Well, yeah. >> What I want to know.

[51:51] » So, they put the >> the construction acquisition just has to

[51:55] be tied to one of these existing

[52:00] » priorities. And what are the other two?

[52:04] » And then the other one would be the solar power

[52:08] » ship economy >> or the we could do

[52:13] the food the food security right was one of them and the infrastructure would be

[52:19] the solar power. So I like the stewardship economy

[52:24] because then we can just by building the building if somebody puts in a rail

[52:27] business in there. >> Yes.

[52:29] » Excuse me. And we can use the floor plan for um encouraging studies, you know,

[52:36] all of this. >> Uhuh. You could use that.

[52:38] » You could build a >> It could be an entrepreneurship center,

[52:41] » encouraging study of supply chain challenges. We could do meetings there

[52:46] for that, >> right? Well, in development of an

[52:49] entrepreneurship center that addresses shared services for businesses within

[52:53] the stewardship economy. So, you can run your rail bikes out of there. They can

[52:57] do >> all these other things as well. with

[52:59] rail can also do stuff out, you know.

[53:05] » Uh, so

[53:09] » the um this new one that the feds are funding is something that just happened

[53:14] and it's a one-time thing. You got to dig into

[53:18] » the uh the SDS one. So, this is a uh the the sorry from the feds for Boardman

[53:24] Hemingway. [clears throat] >> What was that?

[53:27] So the the federal grant portion of this that is a a sorry from the feds for

[53:33] boardman hemingway going through we're sorry here's $15 million have added.

[53:38] » So do you think the chances are better at us going for a food sustainability or

[53:44] solar for

[53:48] » Well I mean we can do both. >> There's we're applying for for two

[53:52] different >> and then we can do the construction one

[53:54] with those. Yeah. So, we could construct >> a building with one of these and for

[54:00] another one we can get solar. >> So, I say we do solar at the RV park.

[54:04] » Well, >> so we can solar everywhere

[54:07] in all city properties. Good idea. >> Yeah, that's what I mean.

[54:10] » Yeah, [laughter] because we can. Even down at the Joseph branch, we could put

[54:14] solar on top of that pigota there. >> Could we? Um I don't know. We probably

[54:19] couldn't. Never mind. >> And when we redo Witty,

[54:22] » we could put solar there, too. I was >> versus there's power already. I was just

[54:27] thinking we could profit from solar power for

[54:30] » I don't know if Oregon does that or not organ does that but I don't know if OTC

[54:33] does that. >> Well

[54:36] co-op right? Right. >> So you can still you still get return

[54:39] checks on it. So I'm wondering if OTC does something like if you have solar

[54:44] power in certain areas does it pay back the city then?

[54:47] » Only if you if it feeds back into the grid.

[54:50] » Yeah. If it's not used. But if we can do that, we can because we can have Here's

[54:54] what I was here was what I was gonna ask and I stopped myself because it's kind

[54:58] of a stupid idea, >> but um like could we get it at Could we

[55:04] get it at um at like the

[55:11] Stampede like all the businesses like put it at the on the main streets of

[55:16] certain businesses throughout this city that we support and they support us

[55:20] obviously. I don't want to put too much favoritism.

[55:23] » Well, >> it was just like it's just like it was

[55:26] just >> one of the things with solar on city

[55:29] rooftops and properties is it plays into your Wi-Fi idea because then you have a

[55:36] way to facilitate facilitate power to Wi-Fi in public.

[55:41] » And I was just looking at more Wi-Fi stuff. So, I'm going to I'm going to

[55:44] keep >> The problem is is if you start putting

[55:47] cityowned solar panels on private business, I said,

[55:51] » "No, I know." But she was talking about private business at this at the street

[55:55] front. You don't It doesn't have to be on the business property. It It's

[55:59] something that they can access and we still benefit from it.

[56:04] » Yes. >> To bring up the Sorry, it's

[56:07] » so your your street front thing just reminded me of that. We don't really

[56:11] have a pickups. We do, but we don't have a bus stop area for the community

[56:15] connections. >> No, we don't. You know, the only place

[56:19] that they used to pick up >> don't really come here.

[56:22] » They do. >> I said they don't really.

[56:24] » Yeah, they they go to Chevron. >> They should.

[56:28] » But if there was if we do the stewardship economy building at the

[56:34] edge of the railroad station, there's a place for them to pick people up and

[56:38] drop them off. >> There you go.

[56:41] something that you could play I don't know if you could play off of it. I'm

[56:44] just like trying to think of like making sure that you stand out for different

[56:47] things. >> Um the road shut down here all the time.

[56:50] Like if you could play off of something like that for your solar power or for

[56:54] any of your projects like you know more parking space. You're going to have this

[56:58] » railroad bike and there's going to be a parking space because we have such we

[57:02] don't have the infrastructure to support all the vehicles and trucks that end up

[57:06] here when we have the road closures and it's we're stuck. You can't go anywhere.

[57:12] » What road closures are you talking about?

[57:15] » Yeah. Anytime there's a closure, everything's closed down and we get a

[57:18] ton of traffic, fires, car accident things to play off of these.

[57:24] » Okay. >> Yeah. I like the stewardship economy one

[57:27] if we build a building for that. Mhm. And then the food bank one

[57:32] » and it shows >> the other one that because that one has

[57:35] the >> and the Wi-Fi uh so or the energy one on

[57:40] it too, right? >> Yeah, that was the other one. So this

[57:42] economy >> combine them and build a building at the

[57:45] end of that space. Then we can have a warming center and then we can have the

[57:49] food bank go over there. >> A cooling center too.

[57:51] » A cooling center. >> It could be our own little community

[57:55] connection. like to see for a park.

[57:58] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[58:01] » Space to see >> like to see a little water for her kids.

[58:05] » Okay. So, what was the other one called? So, we got

[58:09] » energy resilience. >> Energy res. Well, what was that? You

[58:12] said the big heading for that one.

[58:17] » People get all there is. Community resilience.

[58:22] » Community resilience. Those are the two. Okay. I'm sure there's a billion more

[58:27] things. Let's go. >> So, the community resilience one for

[58:31] shared services, right?

[58:34] » Yep. >> Food security shared services.

[58:36] » The other one was >> nonprofit sector business development,

[58:39] which would be the food bank, >> right?

[58:42] » The other one we were just on that slide and then you said we could do

[58:46] construction grants for the both of these

[58:50] or just the one >> for both. So, a construction could go

[58:53] towards building solar everywhere and another construction could go toward

[58:57] building a building. >> Perfect.

[59:00] » And then, um, but eventually, can we get a park where we could put a splash pad

[59:04] for kids? >> I'd say we make that part of the RV

[59:07] park. >> That would be really good. I I think I

[59:10] really like that. >> The insurance on something of that might

[59:15] be >> Oh, you have is coming up.

[59:19] » Joseph has one. L Grand has one. >> Thank you.

[59:22] » Union's building one >> all over central. Every small town

[59:24] » and our river gets gross by this time of year.

[59:27] » Yeah. >> Yes, it does.

[59:29] » It's pretty gross. >> It's not even now

[59:32] » gets slimy. >> No, there's a lot.

[59:35] » Can we put a splash pad? >> Can we?

[59:38] » All right.

[59:44] » Oh, yeah. I made a map of all city properties like the properties the city

[59:49] actually owns. so I can put it on screen.

[59:51] » Just show you like what what are we actually working with here?

[59:58] » Hopefully it doesn't freeze my computer.

[1:00:08] » You could also do a solar char or a car charger at the library with solar.

[1:00:13] » Oh, yeah. >> Why does the Wi-Fi get shut off at

[1:00:15] night? >> I'm not sure. where

[1:00:19] » probably for security people. >> Yeah, for security

[1:00:24] » because it's public. >> I don't want

[1:00:26] » Yeah. >> Malifactors

[1:00:29] in my system.

[1:00:33] » City Hall is just fine.

[1:00:38] Just hoping somebody would laugh. Dark humor. That's how I get through it.

[1:00:43] » They're like, "Hack the system." >> So, we actually had a bunch of land out

[1:00:48] here. That's basically unusable. That's where the hay fields are.

[1:00:51] » Swamp, the lagoon. That's You can't really do much with that. So, we do what

[1:00:57] we can. Somebody sells hay on that field. That's lovely.

[1:01:01] » Okay, let's get a little further into town.

[1:01:04] » So, um over here, we own the pocket park and I guess we Oh, that's the Just

[1:01:12] Branch Trail City section. >> That's the Elgen section. I don't think

[1:01:18] that's actually >> right.

[1:01:22] » So, it's the edge across the street from the house that I was talking about.

[1:01:28] » Oh, yeah. So, sorry, this thing's >> Wait, we own in between the Mormon

[1:01:34] church and that house. >> Yeah, there's like a a utility thing

[1:01:38] that's like there's a bunch of like submers and stuff. You can't really

[1:01:42] build on it. I think it's technically a right of way that just right circles in.

[1:01:46] So we have a couple spots like that around 10.

[1:01:49] » So you can't do anything with that other than what it's currently used for. So

[1:01:52] it's going to be grass between now and the end of time.

[1:01:56] » So just below the words the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I was

[1:02:00] I thought that was our property. >> No.

[1:02:02] » Okay, never mind then. >> Sorry.

[1:02:04] Um >> that's where I was thinking of putting

[1:02:08] everything. >> Oh god.

[1:02:11] So, who doesn't own the trail? Union Railroad Authority. Yeah.

[1:02:17] » Elgen City Hall. Well, I don't think that's actually City Hall.

[1:02:21] » Oh, that's north. >> Yeah.

[1:02:24] » I don't know. That's weird. I don't know. That's a ghost, but that's not

[1:02:28] really city hall, >> in case you were wondering. Um, let's go

[1:02:32] back up. But Albany, so that little thing, that's actually ours.

[1:02:39] What is >> the little perk across from the thrifty

[1:02:43] post? >> There's a little bench. There's a kiosk

[1:02:46] that's faded. One of the school like welcome to Elden Science.

[1:02:52] » Was that the one that um the city gave a portion of it to the land owner?

[1:02:58] Remember last year? >> I don't know if maintaining it

[1:03:02] » where >> that little spot right over there.

[1:03:05] Remember? Um, am I right in the camp? >> There was a a right of way that was like

[1:03:12] » remember didn't it was >> So that was that was a a vacate of a

[1:03:16] right of way. So the streets used to be a little

[1:03:20] different back there. There was still like legally a street going through this

[1:03:23] person's property. So we vacated it. So there's now no longer a street.

[1:03:28] » Yeah. >> And then FBLA used to maintain Lion's

[1:03:31] Park. >> But there is a street because there's a

[1:03:33] house beyond there. it. It's not a street anymore.

[1:03:36] » Oh, gotcha. >> Yeah. The right way is what you

[1:03:39] » Oh, so further down. >> Yeah. So, there's another well over

[1:03:43] yonder. >> Uh there's Woody Park. Um there's two

[1:03:48] parking lot areas. So, we own the one in between um

[1:03:54] » station and the other one. And then this one we um

[1:04:01] » That's the one we just paid. >> That's the one we just paid. Yeah. So,

[1:04:05] um, well, we only we own the back kind of area. We don't the own the middle

[1:04:09] one. >> The middle one is when they had the

[1:04:11] owner of the building of the US Postal Service.

[1:04:15] » Yeah. So, um, we own the parking lot area,

[1:04:20] » um, >> Yeah. So, we could put a rail thing

[1:04:23] there, >> but that would block all of our

[1:04:29] » Yeah, I think you'd have a problem putting a a functional building in that

[1:04:33] space that goes on in that parking lot.

[1:04:37] » All right. Yeah, I know. I have to look at the security camera footage all the

[1:04:40] time. >> Where else do we own

[1:04:45] » by the high school? >> We do own by the high school. That's our

[1:04:50] » Well, it is acquisition. >> Um, yeah. So, Clarence Woody Park, we

[1:04:56] own that little bitty strip of land right there. Um, we own the RV park

[1:05:01] outright, >> so that's good.

[1:05:04] » The fire department owns the green side. >> We used to own that. So, we traded that

[1:05:09] for the parking lot for a dollar. >> Oh, yeah. She means the new one.

[1:05:15] » The what? >> Right. You're talking about the new fire

[1:05:17] department. >> It's a grand silo. It

[1:05:19] » is now. >> I'm Yeah, the grand

[1:05:20] » I do. >> Yeah. Who owns the grain silo?

[1:05:23] » The fire department. >> Do they own it now?

[1:05:25] » They own it. >> Don't you Why?

[1:05:30] » They use it for training. Okay. This the parking lot.

[1:05:34] » There we go. School parking lot. >> That's ours.

[1:05:38] » Perfect for skate park. >> Oh, is that the whole parking lot? I

[1:05:41] thought it was just a section on the >> whole thing. We don't owe the left side

[1:05:45] of the street. We just own the right side.

[1:05:47] » What about that little city lot? >> So, that is technically a right of way.

[1:05:51] Okay. >> Where that where the the it's

[1:05:53] technically a road that goes in there, >> but that is definitely something that is

[1:05:56] up for grabs because there's nothing in there.

[1:05:59] » What about >> there's no weird sewer main or anything

[1:06:01] else. >> Excellent.

[1:06:02] » What about across from the library? There's a little yellow dot up there,

[1:06:06] too. >> That is the same one of those. There's

[1:06:07] like a giant sewer man right underneath it and can't really use it for anything.

[1:06:11] » But before that, where's that at? from the baseball fields

[1:06:17] » the at the high school the high school baseball field.

[1:06:20] » Can you show them the four acres that possibly could be a something?

[1:06:25] » So that's the one that's right across the street from a street. Here we go.

[1:06:29] » This thing went a little too >> Are you looking for aliens?

[1:06:32] » Literal. >> Yes. I'm looking for

[1:06:34] » looks like >> is that the foreclosed up?

[1:06:38] » No, the four acres. >> No, I don't think it was foreclosed on.

[1:06:42] Wait, which is it? Right. >> It was owned by the school.

[1:06:45] » Oh, or it is owned by the school.

[1:06:50] » Yes. >> Oh, wait.

[1:06:53] » On the other side of the street. School. >> No.

[1:06:57] » No. It's on the other side of the street from us. So, the city owned it. The city

[1:07:00] sold it to somebody and somebody sold it to the school. I know the school owns

[1:07:06] it. >> Where's the school's new building going?

[1:07:12] their new um angle. [laughter]

[1:07:16] » Where are part of it? Right there.

[1:07:19] » It went crazy >> where you just were at.

[1:07:21] » Definitely went for a while. >> It's over.

[1:07:25] » I didn't tell you to do it. Right. So, there's

[1:07:32] um >> right there, isn't it?

[1:07:37] » What are we talking about? That >> No, the four acres.

[1:07:41] » Yeah. Okay. The four acres is the one that's down here.

[1:07:44] » Yeah. >> It's like in between the baseball field

[1:07:46] and the >> airplane

[1:07:50] » thing. >> The hanger.

[1:07:52] » Yeah, that was supposed to be firearms manufacturer.

[1:07:56] » But I see that be a perfect idea because it's close to city hall. You can have a

[1:08:01] lot of the hubs there right across the street from you. You can have like food

[1:08:05] trucks coming in. You could do all kinds of stuff. They do that kind of stuff in

[1:08:10] bed where my kid lives, too. They've got a freaking uh a vet veterinary hospital,

[1:08:16] like a specialty one that has like a a food truck area and all kinds of weird

[1:08:21] stuff around it. >> Or does that not show you?

[1:08:26] » No, I it's not ours. So, I didn't put a dot on it.

[1:08:30] » If you go to map.net, net. >> Oh, people are going to re

[1:08:34] » you can find text less easily, didn't we?

[1:08:36] » Because if even if we even if we get a grant for it, we need to develop and

[1:08:43] work on established things that we already have because a lot of people

[1:08:46] will be like, why didn't you use it for this? Why didn't you include this? Why

[1:08:49] didn't you do that? And if we already have a plot that we can work on, which

[1:08:53] it looks like we have two possible, like one is smaller, one is bigger. If we

[1:08:58] worked on those and proved that, you know, we did this for the community,

[1:09:02] then buying something bigger in the future, I think would be more plausible.

[1:09:05] But I really think it we would get a lot of negative feedback if we buy

[1:09:10] » 4 acres. >> Yeah. Especially if the dump isn't open

[1:09:13] on >> I don't understand how fired it because

[1:09:16] there's >> there's specific rules

[1:09:20] » to buy that land. >> Yeah.

[1:09:23] » Depends. So because that land is owned by the school district, um governments

[1:09:27] don't have the same procurement requirements with each other. So we can

[1:09:30] just in and out. Here you go. Here you go. Great.

[1:09:33] » How much is that thing asked? It's asking for

[1:09:36] » I don't know that it's for sale. It kind of

[1:09:39] » we can look on if I I don't know what the lot is, but online the the sale was

[1:09:44] listed. >> So what all what kind of I know that

[1:09:47] we're kind of cramp quarters here at city hall with our shop and stuff. Our

[1:09:51] shops on this property, right? >> Yes. So, is there any wiggle room for

[1:09:56] anything over here >> like on

[1:09:59] » on where we're sitting like next to where we're sitting in between?

[1:10:04] » So, the the property line just up and right here and not far beyond where the

[1:10:13] city is. This whole area in the middle is owned by a private business.

[1:10:19] » And what do they do? Nothing. Is that private business in this area?

[1:10:24] » Uh it's it's uh Bob Os and Dennis Cross is their holding company.

[1:10:29] » Oh. >> Owns it to North County Investments.

[1:10:32] Yeah. So they that business owns that plot of land in between city hall and

[1:10:36] the community center >> and it's just theirs to have or they

[1:10:38] ever wanted to sell it or anything. >> Well, they've they owned all of this.

[1:10:41] Yeah. Yeah. >> The whole thing once upon a time.

[1:10:43] » Okay. >> So

[1:10:44] » I think originally it was the access to their

[1:10:47] » storage unit. No, I was just curious if how that all went down since the

[1:10:51] » Okay. Well, we went an hour and 15 minutes and moved. Not at all.

[1:10:58] » Well, I think we we have some ideas. >> Acres for sale.

[1:11:02] » No, >> it's not for sale.

[1:11:03] » Oh, cuz I was going to I know who just I was just like mind blown for a second

[1:11:08] just Okay. Okay. No, I do like the idea of putting solar on city properties,

[1:11:12] » including the RV park or building a structure at the RV park with solar on

[1:11:16] it so we could put stuff underneath it >> and his flash path.

[1:11:19] » Um, and city hall and >> and then city hall down at

[1:11:24] » the parks. >> Mhm.

[1:11:25] » Um, >> the two

[1:11:26] » So that would be the steward or community resilience.

[1:11:30] » Yes. So I say we go with those two that we

[1:11:32] » I like those two. Okay. the construction for the the stewardship

[1:11:38] in economy and community for solar power and food sustainability.

[1:11:43] » Do we need to come up with a plan for these before we apply for them?

[1:11:46] » No, I've basically got it. We'll put together a plan. I'll work with our

[1:11:50] grant writer. >> Does that have to go before the city

[1:11:52] council before we do this? >> I will want to bring it up to the city

[1:11:55] council so I'm not just spinning my wheels. I don't want to go, "Hey guys,

[1:11:58] guess what we got money for?" Everybody goes, "What are you talking about?"

[1:12:02] Well, not only that, but it needs to it needs to go by legal first because I

[1:12:05] think we need to be very careful about >> doing businesses on our lands.

[1:12:12] » Well, I'm not >> No, this is solar power.

[1:12:14] » The solar power, right? >> Oh, if we do like a real bike business

[1:12:19] is going to be kind of the >> All right. Um,

[1:12:23] » yeah, that's the >> Yeah, if we could have a a real bike

[1:12:26] business would be pretty fun for Tim. Um, yeah, there, yeah, all sorts of

[1:12:31] things you have to think about if you're going to lease space to a for-profit

[1:12:35] enterprise. I'd have to see if that is within the

[1:12:38] the scope of the government wants a building that the private sector can

[1:12:42] use. >> Yeah.

[1:12:44] » So, the little lot that was across from the baseball field,

[1:12:51] » sorry, >> pretty small or

[1:12:56] » drooling now. Yeah, the one across from the

[1:12:58] » It hasn't progressed that far yet. >> Are you all right?

[1:13:02] » I'll have to ask Ruth about It's probably going to be like this now

[1:13:07] for the rest of my life. So, >> I'm sorry.

[1:13:09] » Mystery virus fixing. >> Um, but the little lot that was kind of

[1:13:13] across from the baseball fields if we were to build like a thing for the

[1:13:16] nonprofit sector for meeting and stuff like kind of talked about.

[1:13:21] » Wow, it did it again. >> That little tiny one right up to the

[1:13:24] left there. See the little dot to the left?

[1:13:27] Not that one. Next one. >> Keep going. That one.

[1:13:29] » That one. >> Yes.

[1:13:30] » Oh, yeah. Yeah. We can do whatever we want with that.

[1:13:32] » Okay. Well, let's plan on that one. >> Because I know that with city council,

[1:13:36] we were thinking about the lot by the >> school. And

[1:13:41] » what are we talking about for though specifically?

[1:13:43] » We were talking about like the nonprofit sector part of it with like building a a

[1:13:48] community like where we were talking about a business

[1:13:53] in there. >> Right. That's what I was talking about.

[1:13:55] » Yeah. When it comes to this money, I believe we could both buy a piece of

[1:13:59] property and build a building with the same thing without

[1:14:04] » property. >> I like the space in between like

[1:14:08] » it's also should be requiring >> we got to think about

[1:14:12] » that's not >> No, it's for it's No, but it's

[1:14:16] » the uses of it. So for because it's a residential zone.

[1:14:20] » Oh, that's residential. >> Yeah. Oh,

[1:14:23] » but we could find something else because like on our main street where the food

[1:14:27] bank is, there is that lot in between there.

[1:14:29] » So, like that would be

[1:14:33] » buy the empty lot and put a building in there.

[1:14:35] » Yeah. >> Yeah. And that would work cuz it's

[1:14:38] downtown. It's zoned commercial. Let's Let's try that.

[1:14:42] » I like this. You like that? >> The city will be a tax on something.

[1:14:46] » Yeah. >> I'm sorry.

[1:14:48] » Which ones? I say over here, some of those lots have never been sold and

[1:14:53] those are 30 years or more old. >> We have to be careful about buying more.

[1:14:58] We already have land that we can't >> They're all sold. We don't have any more

[1:15:03] lots over there. >> I think there's still one, isn't there?

[1:15:06] » Well, the new private owners who bought them have have sold. They they've

[1:15:10] changed changed hands a few times. >> So,

[1:15:13] » but this the city doesn't own anymore, right?

[1:15:15] » We don't own any of the things in the industrial park. They're not doing

[1:15:18] anything either. I mean >> Yeah. But they're not We don't own them.

[1:15:20] So that's not on the city. That's on the new owners.

[1:15:24] » Yeah. >> Unfortunately, the way it was done was

[1:15:26] » with an industrial park. There's a lot you're supposed to do to actually like

[1:15:30] make it an industrial park and some industry got put in there and summed it

[1:15:34] up. So, >> and it was cheap. $10,000 for the law.

[1:15:39] So cheap. >> All right. Is there any advice you would

[1:15:44] like to give me on what to do or do we think we're spiced over here

[1:15:51] and can >> I think

[1:15:52] » bring it to the city council that we want uh

[1:15:56] » some solar power and a James Johnson Center for Entrepreneurship.

[1:16:00] » All right. >> You got to name it after the same plate

[1:16:03] on his truck. Big >> gym center.

[1:16:08] See, that's what we have. It's >> got to be big gym.

[1:16:11] » The big gym center. the big >> if there is vandalism. It was on his

[1:16:15] mother-in-law [laughter]

[1:16:20] » have the slogo be step into a slim J. >> That has a lot of publicity. [laughter]

[1:16:28] » This might say what kind of entrepreneurship. We could teach people

[1:16:32] how to vandalize. >> There you go. There you go. Yeah.

[1:16:35] » Yeah. I might be able to bring some people from the uh corrections

[1:16:39] department in New Mexico. >> Hey, there you go. give us some ideas.

[1:16:43] » All right. Well, [clears throat]

[1:16:48] I make a motion we adjourn. >> Okay.

[1:16:50] » I second.

[1:16:54] » All in favor? >> I

[1:16:58] the next meeting date >> last

[1:17:02] » last Monday of the month. >> Yeah. Hey, since um which would be the

[1:17:07] 28th, right? September 28th. >> I might be remote.

[1:17:12] » Yes, you will. >> Oh, you're gone.

[1:17:14] » Since Labor Day is when the safety committee would meet,

[1:17:19] » otherwise they're just missing that month.

[1:17:24] » Thank you.

[1:17:29] » All right.

[1:17:34] Great. Dear him.

9-31-2026 Elgin Community Development Committee

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