[4:11] This right is all in general.

[4:15] I'm vessel from the licensed division, and Rebecca Grill,

[4:26] Michael, staff assistant, to the committee, we'll be joined by modern activists shortly,

[4:37] this next in line, and to his left is Adam Stevens, city attorney's office, and search and Glenn Radden of the Milwaukee Police Department.

[4:49] The

[4:53] first item, number one is 1, 1, 1, 1, 5, 95, emotionally.

[5:00] Put into recommendations of the public safety committee relative to the licenses. As I call your name, if you

[5:07] Please come forward,

[5:12] Regina D. Hard,

[5:16] public passenger vehicle license application, is Regina D. Hard in the world.

[5:23] Mr. Charlie would move for it to now, based on honor of current.

[5:28] It's been moved at the applicants, the application be denied for honor of current.

[5:35] There's an objection, your in-or objection, the motion carries.

[5:40] Gregory D. Banks, 24.

[5:47] You have a seat.

[5:53] Any court will explain you, huh?

[5:55] You saw me, I found another piece, and I found this.

[5:57] I found this. I was concerned that it just a minute.

[5:59] You're about to give us the truth.

[6:00] So that's your thing, that's your thing.

[6:02] Yeah.

[6:03] Thank you.

[6:05] We'll start with the report from the police department.

[6:09] The 117-2003, the applicant was charging out the kind of manufactured river cocaine, which

[6:14] is a felony and possession with an attempt to deliver cocaine, asset felony, and the first

[6:20] charge of manufactured over cocaine was a guilty verdict in the circuit court.

[6:24] There was also guilty verdict in very kind possession with an attempt to deliver a sentence

[6:28] of two years prison, three years extensible vision, six months license suspension, three

[6:33] information for each court.

[6:40] Thank you, sir. Do you have any comments on the surgeons report?

[6:45] I mean, I did what I had to do. I've stayed with them for almost ten years.

[6:52] I don't have a lot more people in the morning. He's on a team, all right?

[7:00] Questions or comments from committee?

[7:02] Mr. Chair, I know that the police report becomes part of the permanent record along with the driving record.

[7:10] It's so much.

[7:12] Baldwin, 20 moves at the driver's record,

[7:15] and please, we've got to be compared

[7:16] to come at that record.

[7:17] Here in the objection.

[7:19] Sorry.

[7:20] Sir, when you say you do what you had to do,

[7:22] what does that mean?

[7:25] I'm just saying,

[7:26] I mean,

[7:28] there was not enough.

[7:28] I don't care.

[7:30] I don't care.

[7:31] I don't care.

[7:34] I don't care.

[7:34] You know?

[7:37] What do you do now, sir?

[7:38] Do you have a job?

[7:39] Take care of my keys.

[7:41] Who would cause you to have or how old are they?

[7:45] Two sets of twins, after the fire.

[7:48] They're 20 years.

[7:51] How do you want to play?

[7:53] No, not me.

[7:54] They're great to do his license,

[7:55] what do you plan to do in with it?

[7:57] They're working for the cat company.

[7:59] Which cat come here to protect them?

[8:03] They're really often do a job if you got this license.

[8:05] Well, I called them and they said,

[8:07] there was a hand in the show that I had to get a PPO first.

[8:14] That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

[8:16] Any other questions or comments from committee members?

[8:19] committee has been joined by the members?

[8:30] Not on probation for this.

[8:32] Of course.

[8:34] It had happened like two-garden three.

[8:42] Mr. Chair, would you vote for the divide items contained in the police report?

[9:01] The next item is a public pasture vehicle application for electric tube brown,

[9:20] but raise your right hand.

[9:22] Do you certainly, if I'm out of the case in Penalty's approach right in the state of Wisconsin,

[9:26] that the test of money you have asked to include the Supreme Court truth in nothing but truth?

[9:29] Yeah.

[9:32] Thank you, Sergeant.

[9:34] Intentionally, to those two applicants was charged by Milwaukee County for better with a guilty

[9:38] finding of probation, sentenced in post to use, hospital correction in post and state nine months.

[9:44] And to one of 2006, that was charged by Milwaukee County for possession of the Tinkle

[9:49] Thank you for watching.

[9:50] If you found possession of fire, possess, possession of TEC, second of fence, possession

[9:55] of a shop called shotgun, slash rifle, and guilty and out.

[10:00] Audges with a third charge, a third charge of possession of THC was dismissed by RADN, the existence of three-year state

[10:07] for President for his extensive supervision, DAT-20-liced suspended for six months for the first charge.

[10:15] Second charge, there was a two-year state prison prepared with a two-year extensive provision,

[10:20] and there was a third sentence of 18-month state prison complaint with 18-month extensive provision.

[10:25] The application is on probation course, a revision for a possession of the tickle came, until

[10:30] 30 of 2013.

[10:33] A probation for all email sent to a probation for a supervisor and seeing walk-in license

[10:37] division in 227-2012.

[10:42] Okay, Sergeant, there will also be a winner in a file and from a probation officer,

[10:50] indicating

[10:51] residents, stability, offenders, maintain residents, stability, reporting issue offender has maintained

[10:59] required contacts with agent, police contact while on supervision to offenders not had

[11:06] police contact while on supervision, overall level of cooperation while on supervision offenders

[11:12] complied with referrals and service designed to adjust criminal arts or needs.

[11:22] Any comments on a police report?

[11:25] No.

[11:26] Like I said, I just tried to tell you to come alive.

[11:29] Well, you know, I'm trying to, you know, work a couple of jobs that are given me.

[11:33] If I were out of my PPL license, I would have a couple of jobs that.

[11:41] If you're granted this license, do you have a job lined up?

[11:44] Yes, and we're transits, transits, transits, transits, transits, transits, and also prestige transport.

[11:52] And who would you be driving at both those locations, what type of clients?

[11:57] Anyhow, and also people that need transportation to knock their guns and stuff?

[12:09] Any questions or comments by committee?

[12:11] Mr. Chair, I'd move this to you.

[12:13] please report and drive me back to become part of the public record as well as the

[12:18] probation world.

[12:23] Yes, I would like to continue to need to please report and

[12:26] drive me back at the probation world by the Department of Art, in the

[12:30] injections for an unsorted. Sir, it's been these incidents with the

[12:39] disaster on the tentacle key, you were quick to shower, but yet you still

[12:43] It was also short, short, short, short, short, short.

[12:46] It was a short, short, short, short.

[12:48] It was about what it was as my mom had passed.

[12:52] She had got deceased in 1997.

[12:54] And I haven't had a case of anything in like 20 years.

[12:59] So I had run to pass the gun in my house.

[13:03] And when I did get caught for possession, the gun was also in my house.

[13:07] And it was secured and everything.

[13:08] Not around my kids or anything like that.

[13:11] And so they just charred me with being a previous fellow with a fire out, but

[13:18] Policially short bell, and you means that the

[13:21] Shotgun or rifle was altered. Oh, yeah, my that that came from my bad. He's also deceased

[13:27] And my mom had it and I took it in my possession

[13:31] Oh, I got his muscles. He died in in like 77

[13:36] So my mom had it in her position. She died in 97. I took it in my possession

[13:41] Okay, it wasn't you're drawing when the police came to rescue and he found it.

[13:46] Yes, okay, then it wasn't in case to everything.

[13:49] Yes, it was in case to know that.

[13:53] Okay, we need you to get out of prison.

[13:56] I'll allow you to know.

[13:59] Since I had an in or a, oh no, I think I'm on that.

[14:05] It's one of those four years.

[14:07] You are being tested, right?

[14:09] Oh, yes.

[14:11] Every time I go through, I'll call anything.

[14:15] No, I'll never drag.

[14:16] Okay.

[14:17] No.

[14:18] Problem.

[14:20] Right.

[14:20] That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

[14:22] You have a question?

[14:24] Excuse me.

[14:25] Excuse me.

[14:26] Excuse me.

[14:27] This one?

[14:28] Yes.

[14:31] The issue with the court, the court came with possession with the two.

[14:37] Did that occur at your residence?

[14:39] We know it didn't.

[14:40] Where were you taking any custody?

[14:43] Uh, did that mean to us as I was trying to, uh,

[14:47] sort of, uh, sell to someone else in the police, uh,

[14:51] had gotten, you know, uh, like a residential, like a rest of my area.

[14:56] What was that, okay?

[14:58] I'm 50-first, then.

[15:00] I have been out of no 50-first of the year. Yes, I saw a guy roll shop, sits right there, and have you been affiliated

[15:10] with any other group? No, no, no. So this is something that you were doing in your own. Yes. And how long have you resided

[15:19] I said, 70, 40 street, this is good.

[15:24] I'm not letting my fifth year now.

[15:26] If fifth year, yes, what you released into that particular neighborhood?

[15:30] Yes.

[15:31] And as the police had any contact with that, no, no.

[15:35] So it hasn't been designated as a nuisance.

[15:37] No, anything of that nature, no, serious.

[15:39] And I wonder if he's neighborhood, no,

[15:40] no, no, no, nothing.

[15:42] It's by a neighborhood parking everything,

[15:45] which is a nice base box city, if you, for me,

[15:48] with that area.

[15:49] So I represent that area, you know?

[15:51] Oh, well, yeah, I'm not.

[15:52] So it's a matter of, well, yeah.

[15:53] There we go.

[15:54] So it's a matter of, yeah, it's a matter of, yeah.

[15:56] I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

[15:57] No trials, I'm raising the questions right now.

[15:59] Yeah, I'm not a problem.

[16:01] I'm not a problem, but what is it's a problem?

[16:02] Oh, yeah, now I'm not a problem, so, okay.

[16:05] At the end of the day, when I'm trying to find out

[16:08] is that there's a lot of activity up at the park.

[16:12] Oh, yes, park.

[16:13] Yes.

[16:14] And it has been brought to my attention

[16:16] That the presence of drugs is up at that part oh yeah, so I I'm willing to give you a

[16:23] An opportunity and a chance. Oh, yeah, I'm just going to stay and I know I don't I don't never hang in the park anything like that

[16:31] So it's not yeah

[16:33] When you say me mr. Burr. Yes, it may not be you. Okay, but folks can be in floor. It's don't you dirt

[16:40] Yes, and so I just need to make sure that

[16:43] You know those folks who live in any area

[16:45] Those children who live in that area, yes,

[16:48] does not have an undoing floor and some giving them

[16:50] to an illegal gate.

[16:51] Oh, yeah, exactly, okay.

[16:53] Unstep, all right.

[16:54] Mr. Chairman, if there's no other questions,

[16:56] I'd move for, let me just say this, Mr. Brown.

[17:01] You must have a very good relationship with your probation

[17:04] and parole officer.

[17:05] Yes, sir.

[17:06] They have given you a very good recommendation

[17:09] that you have complied since you've been out.

[17:13] Oh, yes.

[17:13] And also there are some stipulations that I know that you have to let it.

[17:18] Yes, that they are requesting that you continue to hold.

[17:21] Oh, yeah.

[17:21] And so, I just need to make sure that as we continue this nine long, as you're all the men also.

[17:30] Oh, yeah.

[17:31] That we work to make sure that we continue to stabilize that air.

[17:35] Oh, yeah. We're in being a problem.

[17:36] Yeah, too. I'll make you happy. I'm just proud of you.

[17:39] No problem. No make me happy. Make your neighbors happy.

[17:43] Yes.

[17:45] Mr. Chairman, if you move the global despite items contained in the police report, can you

[17:49] drive a record?

[17:51] Alderman Davis wants to prove the despite items contained in the police and driving

[17:56] record at any objections,

[18:00] hearing non-motion carries a good look, sir.

[18:03] Thank you.

[18:04] I got the who are you?

[18:07] I got you.

[18:08] I got you.

[18:09] I got you.

[18:11] I got you.

[18:14] I got you.

[18:14] All right, next time there's a public passenger vehicle, we will application and

[18:20] expire at 2 to 3, first 2011 is Victor, come along with us in room.

[18:37] Right, this is a new vehicle.

[18:39] Do you only have family that are paying some family to support you on the state of Wisconsin?

[18:42] Are the testimony you're about to hear, Mr. Chu, so I hope you'll come back to you.

[18:45] Thank you.

[18:46] And you're so persuaded of answering the record.

[18:49] Yes, my name is Mark, and I have C Christopher C, H, I, S, T, O, P, H, R.

[18:54] And you will, on time, use a 20.

[18:58] 20.

[18:59] Thank you.

[19:01] Sergeant.

[19:05] 11.

[19:06] Officers.

[19:07] They're the applicant.

[19:08] We had a total of six.

[19:11] 51 North District.

[19:12] The applicant did not have a daily safety checklist or

[19:15] trip record.

[19:16] Fill it out there for that day.

[19:18] There's a charge of safety.

[19:20] Checkless required and trip record required.

[19:23] There's a guilty verdict on the trip record.

[19:25] citation of the $144 fine, new record of the first violation in the

[19:31] school court, on 1228, 2011, and Austro-Beserva Abkut,

[19:36] operating a tax cab at Northwater in East Wisconsin, and Austro-Adnology at the

[19:39] Taxi Printing of 24, which was suspended by the Wacens Division,

[19:43] whilst we stopped the Abkut, who also had an expiry public passage

[19:47] via the Wacens, Abkut State Hughes just running years, and now operating as a

[19:51] taxi, app can present the work as well as the driver's license, the checker that's probably

[19:56] a transportation review of whose driver's license was suspended.

[20:00] The charge of operating loss has been, so I guilty verdict through municipal court, 114 dollars fine.

[20:07] On one, two of 2012, the lost judge of the opking, test cabinet, number 24.

[20:13] Waiting in Texas stand at the intermobile station at 433 with St. Paul.

[20:19] The lost red knows that the permanent number 24 will be raised as division, lost response to opking,

[20:25] who also had an expired public passenger vehicle license, that I can see he was waiting in his

[20:30] licenses to be renewed, he knew it to make money to pay his fines, there was a charge

[20:35] of public passenger vehicle printed required in public passenger vehicle license required,

[20:40] those are set for a quite date of 618-2012, 321-2012 officers observed that I can operate in a

[20:48] to pick up a fairer at 811 East Mason Street.

[20:53] The officers had pre-disknowees applicants.

[20:55] Public passenger vehicle permit was suspended,

[20:57] and his public passenger vehicle license was expired.

[21:00] When the same officers had stopped applicant in the past

[21:03] and advised him that he cannot operate as tax cab.

[21:06] The officers filed the applicant in the fairies that airport.

[21:09] The officers spoke with the fairies that they had.

[21:10] He paid the applicant for $26 and for us for a trip.

[21:14] The fairies for this day, he and several co-workers

[21:16] We're going to use that for transportation.

[21:19] The APK initially states officers that he took care of his primary licenses.

[21:23] And when he asked for documentation, or received the APK installed, he missed the left

[21:27] there at home.

[21:28] The APK was advised again that he can operate as a test cab, a check with that's primary

[21:33] transportation and vehicle.

[21:34] The driver's license is still suspended.

[21:37] There's three charges, public passenger vehicle, public required, public passenger vehicle

[21:42] license required.

[21:43] in operating loss suspended. There's a court date agreement set for 518-2012.

[21:49] The Wisconsin Department of Transportation has spent an applicant's travel license for the following,

[21:54] loan-14,000 loan-44 days for federal pay for future,

[21:58] 1213-1116 days for federal pay for future,

[22:02] 1213-1116 days for federal pay for future,

[22:08] 1213-1116 days for federal pay for future,

[22:11] 12, 2020-2009 days for failure to pay for for church, 12, 2020-2009 days for failure

[22:20] paid for for church, 127, 2012 or 54 years for failure to pay for for church, 360-12 or

[22:28] 20 days for failure to pay for for church.

[22:34] Thank you.

[22:34] Any comment?

[22:36] Questions on a please report?

[22:37] Well, I would briefly say this for the community.

[22:40] This was a situation in, of course,

[22:43] particularly, I can elaborate more.

[22:46] A situation whereby he had attempted to pay for his license back

[22:49] in October was a situation where his check had had a non-sufficient funds.

[22:56] There was a tax lien, some money had been taken out.

[22:59] His account, based off of that, from the department,

[23:01] was not an apartment of revenue.

[23:03] So, basically, this came about as a financial hardship on him, he wasn't able to pay fine.

[23:10] His suspension, that's the basis for his suspension, it's not able to pay fine, not because

[23:15] of issues of bad driving or safety issues, it's minor staining that my client has a very good record

[23:23] as far as when the passengers are in the vehicle, as far as safety record.

[23:28] So, really, this sort of thing kind of snowballed from a financial hardship that he experienced at the end of last year.

[23:35] He has been able to reinstate his license, he has paid all of the required permits.

[23:40] He's got his license here, I've got evidence of his receipts of paying for the required permits.

[23:47] He understands, obviously, the very seriousness of this.

[23:51] It's his livelihood, and he's here today,

[23:54] only before you in requesting for a renewal in this understanding

[23:59] that he's, this is serious.

[24:03] And I've expressed that to him.

[24:05] He understands that he's had a PPL,

[24:08] I believe, for eight, maybe more,

[24:10] a longer years with no problems, at least that I'm aware of.

[24:14] And so we're asking for the renewal despite the issues

[24:18] and let him out of the police department.

[24:22] Are you driving now?

[24:24] I'm just running as a railway driver.

[24:27] Are you driving a cab now?

[24:28] No. Who do you work for?

[24:30] Self-employed sir.

[24:32] I'm self-employed.

[24:34] You're self-employed.

[24:34] My mother was a permit.

[24:36] Okay.

[24:37] And so I would work for her.

[24:40] She depends on my being the money.

[24:43] You know, I ain't hurt your rent.

[24:46] And as I look at the driving record, there is an operating loss suspended, the speeding defector

[24:54] speedometer, which is a COVID-19 speeding operating without a driver's license.

[25:01] Comparter insurance, no insurance.

[25:06] Stopping violation.

[25:11] You must be glad you're driving driving record as well.

[25:14] So that's Mr. Stuffer's and my personal, you know, I didn't realize it. What I do in my personal life, what I've made my PPL. I never realized that.

[25:23] I thought it was brought up to my attention, you know, to wait, but I am a motorcycle and, you know, sometimes I go a little fast.

[25:36] Another incident when I was working as a taxi driver, one of the, not a bridge close by, but basically from visiting team came to town, had to make a middle park as fast as possible.

[25:48] Well, that's how I got one of the speed tickets.

[25:51] Take him out of the place to be in the apartment.

[25:54] Can you probably make just those circles for two?

[25:56] Thank you.

[26:01] I'll tell you.

[26:02] I don't know that people change their habits

[26:05] when they go from their personal vehicle to the work vehicle.

[26:09] So what you do on your off time

[26:12] does reflect what you're doing on the job as well.

[26:16] I've yet to find anybody who really

[26:18] was a doctor, Jacqueline, Mr. Hyatt,

[26:20] You must eat just personalities for me when you go to work.

[26:23] I've been driving, I haven't seen you at all.

[26:26] So I've been driving for many years, and at least for eight years,

[26:31] seven years, I haven't been taking it from, you know,

[26:35] I'm going to try, it's a lot of responsibility.

[26:38] You can, you know, kill somebody and, you know, to make try.

[26:42] So I'm very responsible for safety classes.

[26:45] It was just one of those things where I happened to run a little bit faster, I liked to catch a light

[26:52] and they also have an appeal at that time. That's all it is. But I know safety conditions.

[26:58] And I wish I would remember I could wear a lot of letters for my customers.

[27:02] Everybody at dinner in the live, to them to come and talk to everybody to tell me,

[27:06] thank you for the self-writes. A lot of comments like that.

[27:10] I could, no, no, I would have brought a lot of letters. I get that a lot.

[27:15] I know my sense that I'm now responsible to open out the open arms there.

[27:20] But I'll tell you what, if we were taking a further evaluation,

[27:25] like I guess what I'm trying to say is if you have,

[27:27] if you're saying that an officer just happened to be there

[27:30] and that was the problem, that's not the problem.

[27:34] If we'll be time to give this citation, you'll probably

[27:36] hundreds of times that you've violated the law and you haven't.

[27:39] I've got an assitation.

[27:41] So, the driving both on and off the job reflects what you will be doing, safeguarding the

[27:48] public, or trying to safeguard the public with a PPE license.

[27:51] I don't understand that, sir.

[27:53] I mean, it is my fault to bottom my essence, sir.

[27:56] I understand that.

[27:59] Are we in any other question?

[28:00] Any questions or comments from committee members?

[28:03] Honorable.

[28:05] Can you take care of all of your outstanding violations?

[28:10] Yes, sir.

[28:10] I don't think that's outstanding.

[28:15] And how long has it been since you've not had a

[28:20] political license?

[28:21] Since October last year.

[28:23] You know that you've been caught by the police department

[28:28] here operating.

[28:29] One is the last time that you've operated

[28:31] as in the capacity of the taxi driver.

[28:33] Well, I'll send a couple over.

[28:37] So the second or third time?

[28:40] Second time, sir.

[28:41] Thank

[28:44] you.

[28:47] Mr. Chair.

[28:49] Fundament 20.

[28:50] May to make the entire police report,

[28:53] which I was licenseed by the criminal record.

[28:56] I want to take all in point-a moves.

[28:58] The drivers record and police report become part of the criminal record.

[29:02] They're also in the injection.

[29:04] So, you have a question for the sergeant.

[29:08] Sergeant, when was this whose license suspended and then reinstated?

[29:12] And the reason I asked that because of the offense on 12, 28, 11, he got a citation for operating while suspended, yet three days later on 0,10, 2,12, he doesn't get that, but then three months after the first violation approximately three months, he gets it again for operating after suspension.

[29:37] So I'm curious why I'm one or two twelve, he did not get sighted for a different

[29:42] fact he was still suspended.

[29:46] It looks like he's reinstated 1229 or 2011 or he was, okay.

[29:52] And there he was.

[29:52] What are the record?

[29:53] Then twelve, he was also in line of 11 use that.

[29:56] 1229 or 2011 he was reinstated.

[29:59] Then as-

[30:00] 1, 27, 2012, there was suspended again for 54 days, and then 3, 6, 2012 there was suspended for 20 days, and then it was reinstated in 3, 26, 2012, so it was in and out of good reinstated and suspended.

[30:16] Okay, thank you. Sir, knowing that your license is suspended, knowing as you stated several times that it is your responsibility, you know, why were you operating?

[30:29] So I wasn't aware of this suspicion into the office of Premier, that was a truth.

[30:34] And then as soon as he told me, I said, sir, I came to have a way back.

[30:38] And they did.

[30:39] Well, I was in the middle of the 2019.

[30:40] I was in the middle of the 2019.

[30:42] I was aware of that.

[30:44] I would not do it.

[30:45] I would not.

[30:48] Okay.

[30:49] That's why there was unusual to see that.

[30:52] And that's why I needed that.

[30:52] That wasn't aware of that, sir.

[30:57] You had a question, sir?

[30:58] No, that's a day.

[31:00] Any other questions or comments from the committee?

[31:04] Is there a motion on this matter?

[31:07] Mr. Chair.

[31:09] I will attempt how to move our 10-day suspension

[31:13] despite I don't contain in a police report.

[31:18] Well, then 20 is moved as we know up for the target.

[31:21] Thank you.

[31:21] We know with the 10-day suspension.

[31:23] I would just by the way, I would just say,

[31:26] in the solicitor's clarification on the motion.

[31:28] I would gather it would be as a result of the police

[31:31] on record every run-in in spite of the court.

[31:35] Thank you.

[31:36] Thank you.

[31:37] All right, and now that is after he gets reinstated,

[31:39] because obviously he's been explying since 1031, 2011.

[31:43] So once you get your license,

[31:45] the idea of this is approved, you would be suspended for 10 days.

[31:48] I've called that sir.

[31:50] For, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

[31:50] for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

[31:52] for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for,

[31:53] But this is something different.

[31:55] This is totally different.

[31:56] Well, if this goes, that 10 days after you get your license back,

[32:02] it will be suspended, your PPD.

[32:05] And also, Mr. Chair, I would move that the receipts

[32:08] of him being paid all those fines and being reinstated,

[32:12] because you do have a valid driver's license.

[32:14] You'll start to become part of the permanent record.

[32:19] OK, I would invite him to receive

[32:21] We've become part of the coming record and moves that the license will be removed with

[32:29] a tender suspension despite items complained at all, at least, at least, at least

[32:35] the bond.

[32:35] We've based upon the police report, based upon the police report, the police report.

[32:39] Thank you.

[32:42] Now, are there any objections?

[32:44] It's your own emotion?

[32:45] Yes.

[32:46] I'm the motion.

[32:47] I'm not going to support that motion.

[32:48] And I would support her into all, I think there needs to be a, for my personal liking,

[32:59] a little greater suspicion in particular, it's not just a matter of moving violations, which

[33:06] he's incurred a couple of them over the last cycle.

[33:09] But he's had, for my view, a few infractions that show that one he knowingly operated

[33:15] without public passage of vehicle license.

[33:18] It's so a matter of even a couple of months after the fact

[33:21] that he received his first infraction.

[33:25] And on top of that, also it was an in-uncompliance

[33:29] with required requirements on by the 11, 2010, as well,

[33:35] including the daily safety checklists, the trip record.

[33:41] Those are things that we require.

[33:42] I mean, those are the big bottom lines.

[33:44] So, it's not as though that these things are unrelated.

[33:48] We create those rules and regulations for a reason.

[33:51] And I just would like to see a slightly stiffer suspension

[33:56] for my liking.

[33:57] So, I want to support the motion we face.

[33:59] Mr. Chair.

[34:00] All right, Project.

[34:02] On the number two item, the daily safety checklist required.

[34:06] We cannot take into consideration, because he was not found guilty of that.

[34:10] There was no record of the citation in the Municipal Court.

[34:13] Thank you. I understand, but I had number two in the trip back and required the loss.

[34:18] Yeah, or you mentioned both of them. I just want to bring it to your attention.

[34:22] Any other discussion?

[34:27] You're sharing one objection to motion carries.

[34:30] Thank you. Mr. Chair, if I may.

[34:32] Yes.

[34:36] The committee will be doing a report of its findings.

[34:38] A fact in conclusion, the blow I recommend to the Milwaukee Common Council.

[34:41] The election is being renewed with a suspension of 10 days.

[34:43] you'll see the copy of that report.

[34:45] The amount of opportunity to file written exceptions.

[34:47] If you do, they must be received by the City Clerk's Office by 445 PM

[34:51] on May 16, 2012.

[34:53] If you submit written objections, you'll also have the opportunity

[34:56] to appear before the Cabinet Council when it considers its mayor on May 26.

[35:01] In the common council chamber, we hold the federal budget. Please be advised that this report is a recommendation of the full common council. The common council makes the final decision where the elections will be renewed. We need not the suspension between 10 and 20 days. We're not going to do understand that, sir.

[35:15] Yes.

[35:16] Mr. Christopher, we owe accept service.

[35:18] Under half of your comment.

[35:19] I will.

[35:20] Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[35:22] Thank you.

[35:23] Thank you.

[35:23] Sir, do you need to make copies of these documents?

[35:27] Sure.

[35:27] to kill

[35:41] next item, is this public pass your vehicle application for Danny D.

[35:47] I'm sorry, public pass your vehicle application for Alexander G.

[35:55] Do you guys are,

[36:05] who is your right hand person?

[36:07] Do you have only a firm under the means of your health?

[36:09] He's a purger, he knows that I was kind of saying that the system buddy, you're about to give us a truth,

[36:13] don't you?

[36:13] I'm not saying that.

[36:14] I do.

[36:16] Thank you, Sergeant.

[36:17] In 1119-2007, the applicant was charged in an academic position of cocaine, and a possession

[36:22] of THC, both were misdemeanors, and the first charge, possession of cocaine was a guilty

[36:28] fighting for a certain court, and in terms of guilty fighting for a certain court and a

[36:32] possession of THC.

[36:34] There's a sentence of six months' height of correction, of course it stayed 12 months'

[36:38] probation, six months' length of suspension, and so there was a six-day house of correction

[36:42] And in six month basis suspension, at 415-18, the applicant was charged in what kind of

[36:49] what the toilet kind of is a guilty-finding with 60 days outside the question and a 250-hour

[36:54] fine.

[36:55] And on 813-2008, the applicant was say in the sitting rocky for a frequenting and a legal

[37:01] drug house, that's 24-81 South of the 7th street.

[37:05] There's a guilty-finding with a $6 and 76-dollar fine.

[37:08] We discussed about the transportation suspended.

[37:10] We voted up this Thursday for the following.

[37:13] And we're having 20, 2007.

[37:15] For many days, suspension for underage alcohol,

[37:18] 12, 28, 7, for 6 months for the occasion for outweighing.

[37:22] After evocation,

[37:24] 8, 22, 2019, your suspension for failure of pay for future.

[37:28] And he 22,9, 2 years suspension for failure of pay for future.

[37:32] And 5, 24, 2011, 26, day suspension for failure of pay for future.

[37:38] Thank you, sir.

[37:39] There will be comments on a police report.

[37:41] First of all, I'd like to say I'm ashamed, but since then, besides getting pulled

[37:47] over for driving a lot of the license, I haven't had any kind of police contact misdemeanors

[37:52] felonies, anything for the past three years, I've been doing a lot of community work, trying

[37:59] to get back.

[38:01] The main thing is about four years ago I found a good girl sort of down with, since then I had four children, two of what's unbiologically mine, the fathers ought to picture I stepped up to the plate.

[38:15] My priority now is, you know, I wake up every day to care for them, I breathe to care for them, you know, I'm just a typical good dad.

[38:25] I have a letter of proof for my community service that I've been doing, I've been employed and it's pretty much it.

[38:37] I need this job and I hear it's pretty good income enough for me to support my family and some.

[38:45] So, this is where I'm at now.

[38:48] Thank you, I need questions or comments, President.

[38:52] Mr. Chair, move that the police report and drive in right to become part of the permanent record.

[38:57] And, sir, did you say you had something, a letter?

[39:00] Yes, I have a letter from, well, the community members I've been working with, actually,

[39:05] actually, he's an innocent housing kid, and he sees me now.

[39:08] So, if you would like, I would also ask that letter become part of the permanent record.

[39:14] I'm going to point a move that the little presented become part of the permanent record

[39:20] along with the police and driving report here in a location so we're able to see any other

[39:29] questions or comments by committee.

[39:33] Mr. Andrew, we're going to read it into the record.

[39:36] I'm going to go, sir, if you're going to read the letter into the record, that's fine.

[39:41] This is from Marie Calbrone, our great coordinator at Latino Community Center Health School.

[39:48] And they concern us that it is to verify it.

[39:51] As Andrew DiGazza has provided to me, he service work with the Sir at Latino Community Center.

[39:57] His assistant is with another.

[40:00] Youth intervention programs and the administrative work. He was granted different schools with me and talked about making positive choices. He's been an excellent hope to us during our circle groups, which include a member of the DEA's office.

[40:20] He's also come with us to serve the homeless at the New Site. I feel he is a good start by giving back a lot to our community.

[40:30] If you, by him getting this job, you'll be able to help provide for his family in many ways.

[40:38] I have worked with a lot of people who have made very poor choices in the past, both with

[40:43] God's help, they have really turned.

[40:45] They would turn their lives around and get back to the community with them.

[40:49] Alexander's one was making changes.

[40:55] That has really been made out of them and thought.

[40:57] And the government is President Mr. LePo, my current role is just as being a soldier.

[41:04] And the deal of community for a long time is trying to change a lot of young men's lives.

[41:11] And I'm given the certain challenges that they face, specifically,

[41:15] who are not a legal drug, and also the influence of organized activity,

[41:22] illegal organized activities as far as the gains, and network of what we can do.

[41:27] Senator Sundaker, I'm glad to see that you're trying to get your life together.

[41:32] Stepping up to the play, taking care of children, that's where we need more men to do.

[41:39] And so this being said and understanding that, you know, the person who is vouching for you,

[41:46] is very well respected, you've got a tremendous burden on your shoulders, not to let him down,

[41:51] because as you let him down, you let your community down.

[41:54] Mr. Chairman, I would move approval despite items contained in the police report in the driver record.

[42:01] Mr. Chairman, before we go there, I have a question for the applicant.

[42:04] All in the 20.

[42:05] We have great to dislaces what do you plan to do with it?

[42:09] I plan to provide for my family first.

[42:12] The idea of a job, why not?

[42:15] I would say pretty much.

[42:16] I know a few people in the American and other taxi cab.

[42:20] And then you have like desperate need of drivers out here, so I'm pretty confident that I'll be working with the American.

[42:29] I have to echo the comments of Alderman Davis as it pertains to Marty.

[42:35] I personally worked with him at district number two when I was a captain.

[42:38] I have the utmost respect for that man.

[42:41] And I will say without that letter, I probably would not go along with the recommendation of Alderman Davis,

[42:48] But because I was on the fence and I do know Marty and I do respect them and I know

[42:54] all the effort he's doing in the community, you must think very highly of yours.

[43:00] You would not have written that letter for you.

[43:02] So, thank you.

[43:04] All right, there's motion by Alden and Davis to approve this license displayed in the book.

[43:13] on the police report and driving record in the driver, in the objection to that motion.

[43:20] We are not so alert to your choices, but thank you so much.

[43:29] Next item is Danny D. Green, public ask your vehicle application.

[43:36] Is Danny D. Green in the room?

[43:39] Mr. Chai would move.

[43:40] I would praise that. I will have to move for denial based on non-appearance.

[43:51] Thank you. All of them in preventables for denial based on an appearance.

[43:57] Are there any objections?

[43:58] Sorry.

[44:01] The next lesson is the public passage of view,

[44:05] co-application for Emmanuel L. Wilent.

[44:20] Do you see only a couple of the things in the Pellotis of Pellotis of Pellotis of Pellotis

[44:25] of Pellotis?

[44:25] I was going to say that it is similar.

[44:27] You're about to give us a true-to-hunter truth in Pellotis.

[44:29] Yes.

[44:33] Surgeon?

[44:37] In 1913, 2003, the applicant was saved by a well-tossed prisoner for disorder, contact with the

[44:42] Guilty Finding with the fine.

[44:44] In 1917, 2004, Pellotis of Pellotis of Pellotis was charged in the county for a substantial

[44:48] barrier, which is a felony.

[44:49] It was a guilty finding.

[44:50] With 18 months prison imposed and stayed two years extended to provision, three years probation, and two hundred and seventy days house a correction.

[45:00] On 19 13 2008, the applicant was cited in the city market, from possession of upper tax kits in the vehicle, as an operator, at 6.68 with service-print drive, there's a guilty finding, with a $109 fine, which was referred to collections, but as of 5.2 2012 has been taken care of, and 12.3 2008, the applicant was cited in the city market for the solid conduct, that's 6.01, more titanium, is a guilty finding, with a $105 fine,

[45:30] There's a pass through, a net climate that also has been taken care of as a 5-2, 2012,

[45:36] and 2-5, 2011, the U.S. is sitting in Milwaukee for possessing open taxes and vehicles

[45:41] a passenger, at 2175 North 35th Street, the guilty-finding 114-dollar fine, and 115,

[45:50] 2011, the U.S. charge and walk in County with the solar conduct, that charge was dismissed

[45:56] Senate Prosecutor, this motion.

[45:59] The Wisconsin Department of Transportation, we've

[46:00] focused, under the circumstances for the following.

[46:04] In 1917, 2011, the crash of 1917, 2003,

[46:07] for 1997 and days were the case for an act of plans

[46:09] that would drive a safety plan, and 623, 2010,

[46:14] for 30 days, suspension to a failure to pay for for treatment.

[46:19] Thank you, any comments I let you report?

[46:22] Yes, all that's a day ahead of pay.

[46:24] I'm moved forward.

[46:25] where my life has been and

[46:31] one was your most recent violation.

[46:35] I think they're 2011.

[46:42] It's the status of drinking in your life.

[46:45] As far as I was open, it's time to go.

[46:47] I was honestly, I was a pastor at every one.

[46:51] And he gave everybody in the vehicle a ticket.

[46:54] So then the first ticket didn't tell you that it was not the right thing to do.

[46:58] I wasn't the one.

[46:59] I'd say for the responsibility of what I do,

[47:02] but I just happened to be in the car with somebody

[47:04] It was opening time for me, but it's been a while, which every time.

[47:09] That's how we'd asked you though.

[47:10] Well, that. Yes, you did work from the first time?

[47:14] Yeah, but do you know what you were?

[47:15] You don't look around and sit down and see if they got to open beer, anything?

[47:20] Why did?

[47:21] So I wasn't your beer?

[47:23] No, I wasn't.

[47:24] I was a passenger in the back seat.

[47:29] Sorry, Mr. Chair.

[47:32] I just...

[47:33] I'm sorry.

[47:36] I have granted this license, what would you do with it?

[47:41] I have three jobs these right now.

[47:43] If I'll get a PPO right now today, the guy from the neighborhood,

[47:47] why are we today?

[47:48] And I've got a guy from going to transportation,

[47:51] Sean, Shane, going, who will have me.

[47:54] And also, Doug, from Legislative Transportation.

[47:59] Do you have a job right now?

[48:00] Yes, I do.

[48:02] What are you doing now?

[48:03] I'm a warehouse delivery driver from Los Lachsville.

[48:08] How long have you been doing that for six years?

[48:14] Thank you.

[48:15] I'll let you in here.

[48:16] Any questions?

[48:18] My question.

[48:20] Oh, my God.

[48:20] Thank you.

[48:22] It's for a good morning to you.

[48:24] You've incurred two disorderly conducts

[48:27] or of course, the last three and a half years or so.

[48:32] But with the circumstances behind each of them,

[48:34] one was near the end of a way

[48:35] to one was late in the 11.

[48:39] I'm not sure I'll provide with more consultation with doctor.

[48:49] What do we do? What do we do to it?

[48:52] Adjust the lifestyle and what happens if

[48:58] When happens in your work situation, you get into something that is not available.

[49:03] First of all, I don't put myself in a position like that.

[49:08] And if so, I'll walk the other way.

[49:15] 7, but was the outcome of the 11, 11, as I was going to say.

[49:20] This is not a prosecutor's own business, okay?

[49:26] Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[49:28] Mr. Jones, pardon me, sir.

[49:30] I'll be very upfront, Mr. Leader.

[49:33] I'm not going to support your application.

[49:35] And I'll tell you the reason why I'm here.

[49:37] You've had some convictions with order of your eye in the past.

[49:40] Okay?

[49:40] And your explanation about opening talks came in the vehicle

[49:43] that you would not check if anybody else was riding in a vehicle that had

[49:47] open- and toxicants that you wouldn't look around because I would assume that

[49:51] that would be something that you would stay far away from if in fact you

[49:55] are answering one of my colleagues question that you return them walk away.

[50:00] What we didn't get in a vehicle, if I knew the guys were actually drinking a beer, I have an open intoxicant, understanding that I've been convicted in the past of that.

[50:08] So I'm not, you know, at your explanation that you gave to this committee, we expect that the explanation that you gave to this committee is true from.

[50:18] And if, in fact, that is the integrity that you say that, you know, you're getting to a vehicle with anyone who is actually drinking, I don't think that that is becoming for someone who has this license.

[50:28] So I'll be honest with you. I won't support you like that.

[50:31] Okay. Any other mischimp?

[50:32] Thank you. Any other questions or comments?

[50:34] Both can I?

[50:35] Mr. Chair.

[50:36] I would move that the entire police report and driving record

[50:39] become parted upon our record.

[50:42] Pointing moves that the police report and driving record become parted

[50:45] of the permit record of any objections here in non-sorted.

[50:49] And so I was taken back also by your comment of that

[50:53] when asked about these charges.

[50:55] You said that was in the past.

[50:57] But the past is as early as six months ago that you got arrested for disorderly conduct.

[51:04] At the case of Smith, I understand it.

[51:07] I understand it.

[51:07] I heard what was said, but it still was an incident that you were involved in.

[51:14] And then, you know, just over a year, you had the open intoxicate for the second time.

[51:21] So, okay, that's all I have, thank you.

[51:25] Any other questions or comments by coming?

[51:29] Is there a motion?

[51:31] It's Jim.

[51:32] Well, it is a move today.

[51:36] Spive items contained in the notes report based on if he's replaced all of it.

[51:41] I would give this motion our based on items in the place we put in driver record and driving record.

[51:50] I assume that you will.

[51:52] Absolutely.

[52:04] I'm sorry the license application has been denied.

[52:12] Next item is a public passenger vehicle application for remote deprecons.

[52:24] during the inter-ish.

[52:27] To Zalmi, I found out that the things that have happened are a lot of surprises that

[52:29] they were found, and there's so many you're allowed to do this.

[52:32] There's a good charge working in that.

[52:33] Yes.

[52:38] So, as a result, in 1252, that goes to charge market kind of possession with a tent, and it's

[52:44] door or a cocaine, which is a felony.

[52:46] It was a guilty finding that three years prisoned for years extended supervision.

[52:50] $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000, $2,000, $2,000, $2,000, $2,000,

[52:55] The applicant was charged a mock economic possession of a firearm by a felon that had been carrying a concealed weapon.

[53:01] The skill to finding and both charges with three years prison for his extended supervision, and eight months off the correction.

[53:11] And two-one of 2010 the applicant was convicted in a mock economy.

[53:15] The third required of operating raw tax-cade, first-offence.

[53:19] I mean, we'll discuss the problem of transportation revoked his driver's license for six months.

[53:24] Sir, any questions or comments on the please report?

[53:28] I'll everything is accurate, actually.

[53:30] We'll close it to the mic.

[53:32] Everything is accurate.

[53:34] Thank you.

[53:35] Questions?

[53:36] Comments by committee?

[53:39] Mr. Chair, I moved that the entire police report

[53:41] and I would like to become part of the Department of Record.

[53:45] It's been moved by the Department of Record.

[53:49] It's been moved by the Department of Record.

[53:50] and please report further from that record.

[53:53] The injection very non-solvered.

[53:56] So, grant to this license, what do you plan to do with it?

[53:59] Well, at the moment, I work every image you've ever been.

[54:02] I'm a union worker, I've been in the union since 1992,

[54:05] level 11, 13.

[54:06] I got my own transportation company LP, transportation.

[54:10] And I got three drivers at the moment.

[54:13] And for myself, I need my PPLs.

[54:15] You know, because I got it, I'm getting a contract with a golden living,

[54:18] I know it's in home, and which are we going to handicap our elderly.

[54:22] And, um,

[54:25] everything else I can, you know, in part of your productive pneumonia.

[54:29] Um, everything, you know, I had.

[54:31] I had some downtime, my life where I messed up.

[54:34] But right now, you know, everything is part of the productive and, um,

[54:37] I've put myself into high-risk situations,

[54:38] in which, you know, I ran from one of the stakes,

[54:41] and I, you know, and now I've been sticking for another chance.

[54:44] Okay.

[54:45] Yeah, I've seen it's been, you know, 19 years.

[54:47] And as it pertains to the major convictions to felonies,

[54:53] how does alcohol playing your life now, though,

[54:56] of the most recent one, was a little over two years ago?

[55:00] I mean, for the new year, you know, we're gonna get lucky that they did it. I mean, I got lucky. I don't want to say my house, but I have all this stuff like, when I got on the highway 20s at home.

[55:10] There were there 2700 dollars, right? But I did the classes. I did both classes. So please, you know, we're no problem. I got my license back before the six months. Okay. So, I mean, I would never think I was being a okay, you know.

[55:28] So what are you trying to drink now?

[55:30] I'm not going to lie to you, I'm not going to tell you how social you know, I don't get

[55:34] out doing drinking dry out for me because what I'm going to do now is it's really the other

[55:39] behind you know what I'm trying to do right now in my life, it's the other family, what's

[55:44] that I do?

[55:45] How many kids?

[55:46] Half three.

[55:48] That's right.

[55:48] How long have you owned your own business?

[55:51] A year now.

[55:53] And I like this game slow, so I need to get my cousin, you know, just to care about another van, do my work here, you know, so be a part of mine.

[56:02] Bye, Venture.

[56:03] Let's go meet people at the end of the point?

[56:05] Three, three.

[56:07] Okay.

[56:08] That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

[56:09] Thank you.

[56:09] Any other questions or comments, break them any?

[56:12] Mr. Chairman?

[56:13] Bill, let me do this.

[56:15] Mr. Park is, because I'm your order.

[56:17] I'm just going for one more stipulation of your misportness license.

[56:21] I want you to get involved.

[56:22] in the block, watch over an area.

[56:25] Yeah, yeah, the yellow people need your help.

[56:27] But they also need to hear your story.

[56:29] Okay, no problem.

[56:30] I'm right on the corner, 44A, and I know we're here.

[56:33] So I'm going to reach out to you, listen people,

[56:37] and I need you to take the time.

[56:39] Because as you take a look at your area,

[56:43] although this is related to your public passenger license,

[56:48] indirectly, there's a lot of transportation companies

[56:52] or clients that is in that area, and what you love it,

[56:55] you probably see the vans picking up.

[56:59] But from a safety standpoint, we need to talk to our kids about what they should

[57:03] do and what they shouldn't do, especially during the summertime.

[57:06] And so, my office is going to be reaching out to you to actually become involved.

[57:10] Because there is a block-watch cabinet in that scenario,

[57:13] and we need you to commit the participate.

[57:15] That's not a problem.

[57:16] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[57:18] Thank you.

[57:18] I need a comment, questions or motion by committee.

[57:21] We'll approval.

[57:23] This time, sir.

[57:23] Do I, the Spiderman's container's list,

[57:26] you'll put your make-emotion that he asserts the black watch as well through here,

[57:29] that part of the motion?

[57:30] It'd be a leader in the committee.

[57:31] Yeah, no, no.

[57:32] It's that so.

[57:34] Is it in my head, not a republic?

[57:35] I need this to send back to our health.

[57:40] I would inform those I'm provided the Spiderman's container,

[57:44] the place report to the New Objections,

[57:47] You can answer your questions, but you can't you will get your license until I have to

[57:52] become a council meeting.

[57:54] You don't get it today, just you know that.

[57:55] Yes, we all have time.

[57:57] All right.

[57:58] Thank you.

[58:03] Next item is a public cash review of co-application for how we are if you're

[58:16] a

[58:16] established.

[58:21] There's only a friend on the pants and they don't have his apartment.

[58:23] He's still a Wisconsin.

[58:24] The testimony you allowed to give is a truth to him and nothing but the truth.

[58:27] Yes.

[58:30] Thank you, Sergeant.

[58:32] In 2011-2008, the applicant was charged and won the county with normally violated domestic abuse order.

[58:38] It was a guilt-in-finding, with nine months of situation, imposed on state 18 months probation,

[58:43] 45 days of high-secretion.

[58:46] For 25-2008, the applicant was charged and won the county with only violated domestic abuse order

[58:51] and bail jumping.

[58:53] On the first charge of knowingly violated domestic abuse order, there was dismissed, but right-hand.

[58:59] Second charge of Bell Triple is a guilty verdict with three days of cross-equation with a $1,000 fine.

[59:05] And two eleven to ten, the applicant was charged with supporting Connie.

[59:09] It was stocking, which is a felony, and two kinds of disobey conduct.

[59:13] And the first charge of stocking, there was a guilty finding with one year of jail.

[59:20] Second charge of disobey conduct was a guilty finding, 90 days of jail.

[59:25] And the third charge of disobey conduct was a guilty finding with 80 days jail.

[59:30] Thank you.

[59:32] Any questions or comments on this report?

[59:35] Let's play at you.

[59:37] There's always two sides of the story.

[59:40] For the felony, the stocking, or at the time I was going to take it to court, but the

[59:46] DA gives such a good deal.

[59:48] I mean, my attorney's going to be glad you're just to take the deferred conviction.

[59:54] And while I was doing that, me and my wife broke the order.

[59:59] Thank you.

[1:00:00] I was in place because we wanted to do the counseling, and when the P.O. said that we'd best not to stop a counseling we needed, which we were seeking Christian counseling, and that's how, that's how I got broken, and that's when I had to give the fellow me, and it's pretty much how that happened.

[1:00:22] So,

[1:00:24] okay, you've granted this license to the job lined up,

[1:00:29] which is a little bit, I have a letter from the employer

[1:00:32] in Chip Williams, sent out a lot of most.

[1:00:36] He said not to open it until, unless you guys wanted

[1:00:38] to have it open, but it's right here.

[1:00:41] And I also, it's a little bit, we want to show it.

[1:00:43] I would, we'd want to open it, I'll show it.

[1:00:56] While you're doing that, Mr. Tri would move

[1:00:59] that the, at least you port driving record

[1:01:02] and that letter that's being submitted become part of a permanent record.

[1:01:06] Parliament, point A, Bruce, the police report driving record and order being submitted,

[1:01:10] submitting, and part of the permanent record and the injection.

[1:01:13] Did you have any questions?

[1:01:16] When you've heard, thank you.

[1:01:18] Mr. Yoraz, how are you, Pralter, Nibyaks?

[1:01:22] I understand the first two incidents that we're discussed here

[1:01:25] were related to a domestic situation.

[1:01:28] I'm going to message the situation between you and your spouse or

[1:01:31] perhaps X-Bals here, there's the same material with the stocking incident from 2010.

[1:01:39] I don't believe so. I've never been found with her. I guess that's how they label it.

[1:01:44] What were the circumstances relating to the stocking incident then?

[1:01:48] Well, I don't remember vividly because I was about to look to the one I'm seeing with a friend of mine and he called me

[1:01:54] when I was 19th and national, but that they could say,

[1:01:58] you know, I had to grab some tacos before I go work out.

[1:02:01] And my wife's daughter's dad,

[1:02:07] fiancee called me and they wanted to talk about

[1:02:10] how her daughter, their daughter,

[1:02:12] Asia was an upper-decommit, upper-decommit, upper-decommit,

[1:02:13] upper-decommit, and she had anxiety attacks

[1:02:17] and that her mom was neglecting her and that she had her

[1:02:19] in a bed, a part of Shabwaygan,

[1:02:22] and he, there was a situation where they would

[1:02:24] want to go through, I'm going to have a lot of them type of thing, and he wanted my help

[1:02:28] on that because I used to deal with my wife in Asia all the time, and he knew I knew some

[1:02:34] stuff that would help him, I guess, win this case, so he reached out to me and tried to ask me

[1:02:40] for help.

[1:02:41] And I said, well, I don't know if she's in a bad position or not, I said, I don't know.

[1:02:45] I said, we have a restraining order, I can't go nowhere near her.

[1:02:47] And this was two years or two months into getting the restraining order and I

[1:02:54] blew me, called me in February of that year.

[1:02:57] I want to say what I would have not been just a violation of in the violation of a

[1:03:17] I went up there, he mentioned that she lived in Chiboygan, and I said, well, I can't say

[1:03:25] for sure what she's doing, or if they're in a bad position, I said, but I said, if I decide

[1:03:29] to help, I would just go and see if she wasn't in a bad position.

[1:03:34] So what I went up there, I guess it is after two years or me not too much, not dealing with

[1:03:39] and abiding by the restraining order, somehow she soon found her to a home because that

[1:03:51] didn't know if that was her truck or not, and that's when the police pulled me over and that

[1:03:56] was it.

[1:03:57] That's right.

[1:03:58] Thank you.

[1:04:00] Mr. Chair.

[1:04:01] I don't want to point out.

[1:04:02] That's what stocking uses when you're following somebody.

[1:04:05] Well, I didn't.

[1:04:06] That's the thing is that it's more and better.

[1:04:08] I never, I didn't know where she was moving.

[1:04:10] This is like when I turned on a pointer,

[1:04:12] her car was, I didn't intentionally,

[1:04:15] oh, it's okay, okay, all right.

[1:04:20] What was the wife's name, Divina?

[1:04:22] So, Divina, with a bullet.

[1:04:24] Are you still married to her?

[1:04:26] Yeah, okay, because we're still married.

[1:04:30] And I can tell you this too, prior to this,

[1:04:32] there was a four year restraining order,

[1:04:34] And two years into a C called me private, and she wanted to ask,

[1:04:41] well, I was going to get this going in the right way.

[1:04:44] And I'm like, whatever you want to do, I said, up and running,

[1:04:47] you can pick up a counselor that you feel confident with.

[1:04:51] And now I'll make it come you up there, do the Christian counseling.

[1:04:55] And I just feel that we both have to do some work on our ends.

[1:04:59] You're all married to a counselor.

[1:05:00] And did you take spend any time on this, for was it deferred? Did you order jail on the stocking in disorderly in February of 2010?

[1:05:10] Yeah, eight months. Yeah, it was deferred because we were trying to do the Christian counseling and that's when they don't allow.

[1:05:16] So does she testify against you in the stocking time? No, my PO.

[1:05:20] Asked her, well, are you dealing with IBM and she didn't lie?

[1:05:23] She came and asked me and I didn't lie because

[1:05:25] the guy's questions you just really can't do that.

[1:05:29] And so they pulled it back, you know, and that's how I got the phone.

[1:05:32] I was going to take that stocking charge to court

[1:05:35] because I know I didn't do anything wrong.

[1:05:38] But like I said, he gave a two-year probation with a deferred sentence

[1:05:42] with 20 days in jail and I said, I can do that.

[1:05:44] But that being is they got us because of how we were together.

[1:05:49] So we shouldn't have been, but we wanted to try to do counseling.

[1:05:52] So you did 20 days then instead of, at the 20 days,

[1:05:55] and then you were being when she asked my wife that she see me

[1:06:00] and then she came to ask me that I see my wife,

[1:06:02] which kind of book everything and that's when they gave me the extras.

[1:06:06] All right, so thank you Mr. Chairman.

[1:06:09] Just for the record, the four pieces of literature we're giving here,

[1:06:14] Listen to a job offer from St. Anna Rimmel of Shaboygan.

[1:06:19] Another is the reference and endorsement from jubilation ministries.

[1:06:26] Another one is endorsement from Jim Prism ministries.

[1:06:34] And another is a motorized load from a clook at a Walgreens,

[1:06:39] So when the case of Mr. Hav, Mr. Uyroha, detained a shoplifting suspect that was assaulting

[1:06:47] the clerk, rather than have to get information, so the police to eventually have not

[1:06:55] been shot to the doctor.

[1:06:56] So as we did enter that into that, it will be a best of time for the chairman of the

[1:07:00] joint.

[1:07:01] I'm just going to get to the chase on this.

[1:07:03] when I, we've got three incidents through domestic related, I think that there's a well enough

[1:07:09] explained, the moving violation history is very, very minimal, I would move forward this time.

[1:07:15] Despite items contained in the park.

[1:07:17] He did it.

[1:07:18] On the motion on the project, I see you're going to get this license if granted, you're going

[1:07:26] to just be a normal service from Shaboyeian and then dropping people off at the airport

[1:07:31] or something and then going back to Shaboyeian, is that correct?

[1:07:34] We need the, I mean, you're not going to operate in the city market, it doesn't look like that.

[1:07:38] No, he just needs to go to our desk.

[1:07:40] Yeah, right.

[1:07:41] Ask through.

[1:07:42] Yeah, he's just going to be passing through.

[1:07:44] Okay.

[1:07:44] Thank you.

[1:07:46] Here's the motion by all of them and board to prove this location and the license.

[1:07:51] So displayed items.

[1:07:52] Oh, God.

[1:07:53] In the case report, in the driving record, I don't know what he was doing.

[1:07:57] In the injection.

[1:07:59] Here we now saw that.

[1:08:00] Good luck, sir.

[1:08:01] Thank you.

[1:08:02] Good afternoon.

[1:08:02] For two-gender only items, one is Brian W.

[1:08:06] You're an agent for a Metro's Cross Street with you.

[1:08:09] Protection LLC, land business, application,

[1:08:13] and as agent for Metro, protection LLC, 10 Phoenix Corp.

[1:08:18] In the running letter for Michael Egan,

[1:08:21] the agent for Boniface, and Locke and Corp.

[1:08:25] Rated, land business, application, and as agent.

[1:08:27] out the road and fundify it.

[1:08:30] Safe and lack at 3, 6, or 5, from a time of 26th trip.

[1:08:36] All you've been told would move a total of item 1, number of file number of 1, 1, 1,

[1:08:41] 5, 95, or motion of the game to the recommendations of the public safety committee

[1:08:47] road to the licenses and hearing the objection so on and.

[1:08:52] Item 2 on your agenda, file number of 1, 1, 1, 7, or 5, the substitute

[1:08:56] who are investigating the traffic controls,

[1:09:07] and we have the Department is, or I put

[1:09:09] President, wanting to share the members of key Bob Bison from the Department of Public Works

[1:09:15] with traffic and street lighting engineering.

[1:09:18] The file before you, we have prepared, and we support the changes that are included in that

[1:09:25] and recommend approval.

[1:09:28] Any questions or comments by committee?

[1:09:32] And both of us approved and given no objections or the

[1:09:40] number three is followed

[1:09:41] at 1, 1, 1, 7, or 4, substitute them in the parking control.

[1:09:45] Mr. President, Mr. Chairman, similar to the previous ordinance, we've prepared this ordinance.

[1:09:53] We support the changes in our come in approval by the committee.

[1:09:57] Any questions or comments by committee?

[1:09:59] Chair question.

[1:10:00] What's our policy regained? People putting up non-efficial city Milwaukee parking hines?

[1:10:08] Non-efficial parking signs? No parking signs.

[1:10:10] They cannot be installed. There's a state statute that requires the only people that can install a type of traffic control, regulatory signs, whatever industry right away are the city of Milwaukee.

[1:10:26] If I touch, you'll go down to the animal station.

[1:10:29] You'll see some variety of signs.

[1:10:32] Do you know what your girl whom made?

[1:10:34] Okay, those are a bit of like that.

[1:10:36] No parking tax is on.

[1:10:39] On the same spot?

[1:10:40] Well, take care.

[1:10:42] Thank you.

[1:10:43] Any other questions or comments by committee members?

[1:10:46] I would mention, I would ask Mr. President,

[1:10:49] to see the little work to any sign

[1:10:51] and they'd probably go to the room between the sidewalk and the sidewalk.

[1:10:55] In general, yes, it is to, without some type of permit,

[1:10:59] or approval or agreement by the city to install that sign.

[1:11:05] So to grow, advertising is ceased.

[1:11:07] I can be between the sidewalk and the curb.

[1:11:09] And on mediums is easy to go out for anything.

[1:11:13] That's correct.

[1:11:14] There are some provisions in ordinance that will allow

[1:11:19] some of the type of signing to be installed through.

[1:11:22] again, and it requires the approval of the city to do it.

[1:11:26] So in that case, it would be, in my district, we have freeway detours, and we're

[1:11:33] two, seven, closed, and we have permitted signs to be erected by the state of Wisconsin.

[1:11:40] For the purpose of providing direction to businesses, for instance, to that affected by

[1:11:46] a street closure, to be actually assist the businesses in providing the way finding information

[1:11:52] to get them through the, through the construction zones and to be able to guide them into the businesses that remain open in their affected by closures.

[1:12:03] Thank you. Any other questions, commas, by committee?

[1:12:06] I mean, Davis moves approval in hearing your objection, sorry.

[1:12:13] I remember four, if I remember one, two, zero, zero, six, nine, and audience relate to your establishment.

[1:12:22] Four restops at two intersections on self-climbing to have anyone.

[1:12:26] I'm turning on this item, Mr. Bryson, all of them, Tony Zelensky.

[1:12:31] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[1:12:32] Basically, I've got a couple of residents in the audience here who would like to testify in this after Mr.

[1:12:38] Rice and, you know, speaks.

[1:12:41] Basically, speeding has been a serious issue on climate avenue for some time, and there are some people on

[1:12:50] a community avenue that feel that it stops signs or the appropriate way to go.

[1:12:54] And so I wanted to afford those people and opportunity to come by and present their case as to why

[1:13:01] I'm sorry I should be. I'm Clement Avenue. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[1:13:05] Mr. Wilson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, I want that professor, my comments with

[1:13:13] requirements of state law is, are you probably aware,

[1:13:17] like it or not, the man going to move from traffic control to ISIS is the,

[1:13:22] it's pretty much the gospel of the way we handle traffic control in the city.

[1:13:26] There is a state law that requires us to comply with all the components of the federal manual.

[1:13:34] There are two provisions in particular in there that I'd like to point out to you to

[1:13:41] in the prelude to the specific requirements for stop signs and their installation.

[1:13:47] There are two comments that are made.

[1:13:49] The first being that Euler's stop sign should not be

[1:13:53] used for speed control.

[1:13:55] They're not effective in doing it.

[1:13:56] Research has proven that they do not control speeds

[1:14:00] on the roadway.

[1:14:03] Second is that the first stop sign should not

[1:14:05] be installed on the higher volume roadway and was justified

[1:14:08] by an engineering study.

[1:14:10] With that in mind, we were asked to investigate

[1:14:13] some of the traffic problems that everyone brought

[1:14:15] up by the neighbors on Clement Avenue.

[1:14:18] And we did consider a lot of different things

[1:14:22] that are pedestrian safety,

[1:14:26] speed of vehicles, accident history, traffic volumes,

[1:14:30] and everything that's required under

[1:14:33] state statutes and the

[1:14:35] and the uniform traffic control devices.

[1:14:37] A couple of the things that we looked at

[1:14:39] that we always report when we do an investigation

[1:14:42] for an always stop control.

[1:14:44] One is that five of them are reported crashes in the 12th month period,

[1:14:50] on a particular roadway where the always stop is proposed.

[1:14:54] In this case, we would excuse me what did accidents for a four-year period.

[1:15:00] On 2007 to 2011, and the total number of accidents reported to the Milwaukee Police Department in that time was one accident at the court, and no accidents at Idaho.

[1:15:13] As far as traffic volume requirements, the requirement for installation, I'm always stop in terms of traffic volume.

[1:15:25] is that the facility must average at least 300 vehicles per hour for any eight hours of an average day on the main street and it has to average at least 200 per units for the same eight hours on the minor street.

[1:15:39] In this particular case, climate to have a known itself is an arterial railway and it carries over 5,000 vehicles per day in the cross streets.

[1:15:48] We estimate somewhere in the range of 500.

[1:15:50] So, uh, controller that's per day.

[1:15:54] Okay, were you talking to all right?

[1:15:56] I understand, okay.

[1:15:57] But, uh, this is the total volume and that effect.

[1:16:00] Uh, when you look at the hourly volumes,

[1:16:03] it does not need any of those criteria for the installation.

[1:16:05] We always stop control.

[1:16:07] So, it does not need the volume, uh, criteria that

[1:16:10] need to be included in the engineering study.

[1:16:13] Um, a couple of other things,

[1:16:15] to the generally pertain to President, primarily,

[1:16:18] the residential roadways.

[1:16:21] Climate to have in oneself is not your roadways.

[1:16:23] So these generally not necessarily applicable there, too.

[1:16:29] But it says for other things that

[1:16:31] would be considered our locations where road users

[1:16:33] can't see cross traffic.

[1:16:35] It may be appropriate to install the stop sign there

[1:16:38] to gain that extra monochrome safety there.

[1:16:41] And then, too, as an intro, neighborhood streets that smart streets are similar to designing operating characteristics, where multi-laystop could improve the operational characteristics of the intersection.

[1:16:56] It is one of the more qualitative measures under which the always-stop can be controlled.

[1:17:03] Generally when we get a request from an ordinary citizen to look at it, we do provide the

[1:17:10] alternative information on the actual technical data that goes along with the study that

[1:17:18] was done and we also look at it once that in discussion with the local government.

[1:17:26] Whether there's any operational improvement that could be taken care of by the installation

[1:17:31] It's always the opposite, and in a lot of cases, it can be installed because there is an operational benefit

[1:17:38] installed, and we have not, or disagree with, you know, and the government has desired to move forward with them, too, so.

[1:17:46] A couple of things in note, as I mentioned, the deployment is functionally classified as a minor arterial.

[1:17:52] So, difference between the evaluation, the operational characteristics, is that because it is

[1:18:00] not material, it not only affects the intersection as being studied, but also traffic

[1:18:06] in traffic and safety in the joining streets, and on the roadway itself it affects not only

[1:18:14] the pedestrian traffic, it affects the vehicle traffic, and the operating conditions on that roadway.

[1:18:23] We did do at requests of Alderman's landscape too because of the complaints of our speed.

[1:18:28] And we did a wheel of bus, we checked out there.

[1:18:31] And for the time that we were out there measuring speeds with the radar unit,

[1:18:36] the roadway of the speed limit posted of 25 miles per hour.

[1:18:40] The average speed out there was 27.6 miles per hour in the 85th percentile speed,

[1:18:46] which is generally an indicator of what motors perceive as a safe operating conditions.

[1:18:52] That was 31 miles an hour and these are very typical of any arterial in the in the city of

[1:19:01] Milwaukee. They consistently are within five to seven miles per hour and many travel arterial

[1:19:07] rotors. Any better than that, you've got excellent compliance. This is a smart typical operating

[1:19:13] condition at a rotor, such as Clement Avenue. A couple of other things to note. Clement

[1:19:20] The avenue is a through highway, and it is a minor arterial.

[1:19:25] City ordinances in and of themselves require that be stopped cost traffic for a through

[1:19:33] highway that goes through this city.

[1:19:35] So if this sort of change in your work to be arterialized, there's efforts that it would

[1:19:40] have to be made in there to get a traffic off the climate avenue, and we would have to force

[1:19:45] off to, and then the reason it impacts the other areas, if we force the traffic off there,

[1:19:50] they're going to go somewhere else, be it a residential roadway, for you'll have increased

[1:19:55] the traffic on the side streets or on other materials, and there are congestion.

[1:20:00] Bombs and there, and they may not be able to handle it. So it does have an impact in terms of traffic throughout the area.

[1:20:08] Also, it's been our experience. When we install, always stops, an enormous stop and an accurate roadway, there's no cross traffic or people aren't going to stop for them.

[1:20:17] We continue to roll through them. They disregard the stop signs.

[1:20:20] And that creates a safety hazard, not only for vehicles trying to cross the street, but for pedestrians that will actually expect the traffic to be stopping for them at the roadway.

[1:20:32] They don't do it. It's a potential negative impact of installing that type of assign an arterial roadway.

[1:20:42] The last thing that I want to mention to you and probably the most critical factor in this tool is because it is an arterial roadway.

[1:20:49] The traffic on that roadway is solved is controlled by traffic signals.

[1:20:55] In this particular case, we have a traffic signal at KK Avenue.

[1:20:59] And we have a traffic signal at Oklahoma Avenue.

[1:21:02] But with that, with the traffic coming down,

[1:21:05] Clement Avenue going northbound and southbound.

[1:21:08] The traffic entering that roadway is controlled by the traffic signals.

[1:21:13] And the thru traffic is switched through that area in platoons of traffic.

[1:21:18] So when they release from their gigat groups of vehicles moving up and down their own way,

[1:21:23] which in and of itself creates gaps in traffic that allow us traffic from the side street

[1:21:29] to be able to safely access climate avenue.

[1:21:33] And it also allows longer gaps and more gaps for pedestrian traffic.

[1:21:38] What happens when you introduce and always stop in those conditions is we'll take those gaps

[1:21:42] And what happens then is you will get vehicles that you are discharging from their

[1:21:49] stop sign.

[1:21:50] But once every five seconds I believe it is commonly what it takes to stop and move forward

[1:21:55] again to if they do stop.

[1:21:58] So it takes that solid densely packed between a traffic breaks in a part and vehicles going

[1:22:05] up one and one it will reduce the gaps of the old one traffic.

[1:22:09] So with that in mind, the value of judgment has to be made and whether there is a possible

[1:22:18] improvement in safety, which in this particular case, the accident reports, and the speeds

[1:22:24] do not really indicate that there is something that's absolutely critical that needs to be

[1:22:29] due.

[1:22:30] But there's a significant dollar side to doing that.

[1:22:32] And in this particular case, because of that significant dollar side, I'm not only at

[1:22:37] to intersections, but in the area in general, in the overall performance of your

[1:22:42] material, recommendation was made not to install and always stop control at that particular

[1:22:50] location. Again, there's claims of speeding. When we do these studies and we look at

[1:22:55] amount of 24-hour period, we believe we got speeds there indicative of actual operating conditions

[1:23:02] on there. But I have no doubt in every location that we do the speed check. There's always

[1:23:07] going to be somebody that's going through there at an absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous speed,

[1:23:14] but it's not actually indicative of the vast majority of people using their roadway.

[1:23:22] Something's going to be taken care by enforcement, you know, I understand too, but you know,

[1:23:27] I don't doubt that there is an opportunity to go on there that is going to speed down their

[1:23:31] to. But again, for the most part, the vast majority of vehicles in the vehicle speeds are operating

[1:23:39] as we would expect on an arterial hunt nature. So again, the recommendation is not to install

[1:23:45] always stops at these two intersections, because of the potential negative impacts on

[1:23:51] and traffic operation and also safety of the area. Any questions or comments by committee?

[1:23:57] We

[1:23:59] have some questions for you, but our first album here from the public, if there are people

[1:24:04] present to testify on this, please come forward,

[1:24:11] give us your name and address, sir.

[1:24:14] I want to end your read, 2943, South Clement Avenue.

[1:24:18] Thank you very much.

[1:24:20] Well, it turns out a cool walkie has a speeding problem.

[1:24:23] I'll over.

[1:24:24] But I have to say that I disagree with pretty much everything that he has suggested.

[1:24:30] And I guess I don't know where to start, but to tell you that with the speed test that was done last year,

[1:24:39] that the response that we got was that they had to replace the device at one point in time because it broke down.

[1:24:45] So the total 48 hour period that you said that it was out is incorrect.

[1:24:51] So we never got a straight answer as to when was it replaced?

[1:24:54] Was it really only after for 24 hours or so on and so forth?

[1:24:58] The other thing about real to please.

[1:25:00] The statement of the detector was one block in north of Oklahoma. In what we're talking about is from Oklahoma to KK, which is a five block stretch.

[1:25:13] So had we had that speed detector in the middle of that stretch? I think the members would have drastically jumped higher, considering that's exactly where my house is, and even school buses just speed down that street.

[1:25:26] As far as the numbers that he was talking about with the average being about 31 miles per hour,

[1:25:33] that I can't really argue, but if I were to throw all my own statistics or percentages,

[1:25:39] that's still 75 percent of all vehicles that were recorded over the speed limit.

[1:25:45] To me, what's the sense of being a speed limit unless we're going to enforce that law?

[1:25:49] And I think the majority of that 31 number comes in to play because there are some new vehicles that I go,

[1:25:58] 26,000 hour to 30,000 hour in that zone.

[1:26:02] But you still have, and most additional 3,000 cars in that same time period that we're going over 30.

[1:26:11] So for being a residential street, it seems very fast to me.

[1:26:16] When we do the breakdown of numbers, we're talking thousands of cars a day, we have to avoid because they're speeding.

[1:26:25] And it's a narrow section of Clement Avenue. It's the narrowest section all the way along.

[1:26:31] So I don't see why putting a couple of four-way stop signs is really going to deter the floor traffic to the point that is going to be a major problem for that section of the city.

[1:26:44] As opposed to being a huge asset for safety reasons for everybody that lives on that street,

[1:26:52] everybody that is going from humble park to side giant park, because that's on Idaho's,

[1:26:57] when it was main areas that they do cross over.

[1:27:01] There was a comment on that yield signs and cross park signs are not supposed to be used for

[1:27:09] speeders, yet they were installed last year, along with some crosswalk lines.

[1:27:17] There's just so much more to go into.

[1:27:18] I mean, if I could invite you all over one night and just have you sit in my front yard

[1:27:21] and watch the school buses, the city buses,

[1:27:26] public works, vehicles, and the speeders,

[1:27:28] the motorcycles, everybody speeds down that street.

[1:27:32] So, I think the numbers are a little skewed.

[1:27:37] My research on the highway part, the state does not recognize it as a highway anymore.

[1:27:44] I had made a call last year sometime.

[1:27:46] I don't remember who I spoke to.

[1:27:50] But I was asking in regards to what they looked at for that street,

[1:27:53] and they said they don't recognize it as a state highway anymore.

[1:27:56] It's solely for the city to deal with.

[1:27:58] So, I don't know what more I can beg of you, but two full-way stop signs, really is not going

[1:28:05] to deter that much traffic from going other places, it's just going to slow the traffic

[1:28:11] down.

[1:28:11] We're not trying to get rid of the amount of traffic.

[1:28:14] We're just trying to slow it down.

[1:28:17] Sorry.

[1:28:18] Thank you.

[1:28:20] There was no one else.

[1:28:21] So let's speak on a social couple more people.

[1:28:25] No?

[1:28:28] Thank you.

[1:28:31] There's anyone else if you'd please come to the table now.

[1:28:37] I'd like to ask for yourself in your address.

[1:28:39] My name is Katie Browsky.

[1:28:41] My family was at 2-9-1.

[1:28:43] My name is self-climbing.

[1:28:44] So just on the street.

[1:28:49] I live there all the time.

[1:28:51] I'm there all the time.

[1:28:52] Not just a certain specified time for testing traffic.

[1:28:55] And my mother, I have a young daughter,

[1:29:01] I can tell you that the amount of traffic, again,

[1:29:04] we talked about that, but it's just the speed.

[1:29:07] Cars fly down that little stretch.

[1:29:10] The turning off was KK, or coming from Oklahoma, where the speed limit is different,

[1:29:17] and they're even going faster than that speed limit.

[1:29:19] And it's a shortcut between those two highly traffic streets,

[1:29:23] And they just continue to drive fast or speak on that.

[1:29:27] And that's all I'm here to say is that, again,

[1:29:30] we witness it every single day.

[1:29:33] I drive 25 miles an hour down that street

[1:29:36] and I can tell you the cars in front of me

[1:29:38] after a few seconds I can't even see them anymore

[1:29:40] because they're so far ahead of me.

[1:29:43] There's also, in terms of safety,

[1:29:48] again, we're in the middle of the street

[1:29:49] as Mr. Reed is two or the middle of that stretch.

[1:29:53] And when you're looking more, so if you're looking down to KK, there's a little hill there, so if guys are...

[1:30:00] I'm in really fast. It's difficult to see them until they're right upon you. And again, as a young family crossing climate

[1:30:10] avenue to go to Saigon Park, again, is very dangerous too. So it isn't issue and I don't know whether the

[1:30:18] four ways stop signs are the solution. Something has to be a solution because again, we live through it every single day.

[1:30:26] Thank you.

[1:30:27] Mr. Chair, I request you.

[1:30:29] Yes.

[1:30:30] I should ask that to the other gentleman too.

[1:30:33] But what have you or anybody in the neighborhood or the elderly can answer these questions too?

[1:30:39] To do preventive measures such as speed boards,

[1:30:42] have you personally called the police and asked for a speed control.

[1:30:46] Some type of radar enforcement.

[1:30:49] I know AAA sometimes gives out these free slow down signs.

[1:30:53] What have you done in a community to sort on the traffic?

[1:30:58] I can answer that.

[1:30:59] I've spoken with the captain of the six district.

[1:31:02] I knew him as occasions to get extra police enforcement.

[1:31:06] I'm a particular street.

[1:31:08] And, you know, there have been times where we have gotten extra police enforcement.

[1:31:11] But the police can't keep a squad card.

[1:31:13] It's also dedicated to that street, you know, you know, every single day.

[1:31:17] So we did get a speed board up as well, but I think the studies collaborate the fact that

[1:31:24] when the speed board is up, that slows down the traffic when it's up.

[1:31:28] As soon as you remove it, they're going to go back to the same speed as before, and I forgot

[1:31:32] how many speed boards we have throughout the city was it like two or three?

[1:31:37] So it's on a rotating basis.

[1:31:39] So the measures that we've taken, you know, you have addressed it, you know, temporarily

[1:31:44] during that time appearance there, but we just don't have the police resources.

[1:31:49] They have a squad there, you know, every single there, they have the speed board there as well.

[1:31:55] Do you know that when the police obligate their resources to this, how much time is being spent,

[1:32:01] and how many tickets are being written, to collaborate, what they're saying?

[1:32:05] If you have a squad out there for an hour, and they don't get a speeder, then speedy isn't happening all the time.

[1:32:12] Do you have any of those stats for us?

[1:32:14] What I'll have to do is, in the future,

[1:32:16] I don't know my normal consultations with the captain of the district,

[1:32:19] is I'll make sure that when we have an officer station out there

[1:32:22] for traffic enforcement, that we maintain a detailed lot of

[1:32:26] how many tickets have been issued.

[1:32:30] In addition, I did have a meeting with Mr.

[1:32:33] Vice at a Mr. Reed to go over some different options

[1:32:36] to try and address this speeding issues on that street.

[1:32:41] If you may recall a few years ago,

[1:32:43] because we all have speedings in our district.

[1:32:45] We introduced a resolution of corporate estate

[1:32:47] to allow for the installation of surveillance cameras

[1:32:50] that were with radar guns, so the tickets could be issued.

[1:32:54] And then that way we wouldn't have to tie up police resource time.

[1:32:57] Unfortunately, the state did not see fit to pass

[1:33:00] that enabling that legislation.

[1:33:02] We'll also pass the piece of legislation on the council here.

[1:33:05] Asking to double the fines for cars that speed 10 miles

[1:33:09] or more above the speed limit again, the state declined

[1:33:12] And to act on that particular recommendation, and I know from speaking with all of them,

[1:33:17] and then this is, you know, speeding as a serious problem throughout the city, and we're just trying to work.

[1:33:22] And come up with different ways to try and address this particular, you know, problem.

[1:33:27] And there's, I don't know if, you know, if she's sure, you know, about the staff signs, but I know the previous speaker is very adamant about, you know,

[1:33:35] staff signs I wanted to for them, and I'm an opportunity to leave their case.

[1:33:38] That's fine.

[1:33:39] But I also want to make sure that their case is substantiated some way and when I ask the police

[1:33:44] to go out in my district and check speeders, then I ask, how many hours were you out there?

[1:33:49] And what was done during that time period?

[1:33:52] You know, this is how we have to give out tickets, but warnings, what kind of traffic activity

[1:33:55] was generated during the time of obligation you're out there.

[1:34:00] And you know, sometimes there's a perception out there and the police are there and they

[1:34:05] we were there for four hours and we didn't get nothing.

[1:34:08] I remember there were times they were out there for one hour and they stopped ten

[1:34:11] cars.

[1:34:12] So it's always good to have that documentation to substantiate it.

[1:34:17] Thank you.

[1:34:17] Do that.

[1:34:18] I mean, telling you it's a form of police case.

[1:34:22] I don't know if it's still going to disappear.

[1:34:24] It's just to kick you if you're an ideal for yourself and the workers for the wicked.

[1:34:28] Right KK for?

[1:34:29] I live at 64, 20 West Dodge, but I used to live in the area.

[1:34:33] I also do a lot of business and socializing in the area, and I know the street climate

[1:34:40] chase Oklahoma KK. I often see people 40, even 50 miles an hour, especially like 9 o'clock

[1:34:47] at night. I would agree with Mr. Bison, the stop signs, do not deter the speed and special

[1:34:56] It might, don't just roll right through him.

[1:35:00] Again, it seems in general, and you know, it further from some of the testimonies here, like some of the attitudes of many people in this town that going 5, 10, even 15 miles over to speed limit is all right.

[1:35:15] You know, they don't see the danger and I'm sure there's statistics that must show for every five miles, even if it's a speed limit, even if you're in this speed limit.

[1:35:36] They don't think they're going to get ticketed.

[1:35:42] They know that we can't put it squad cars on every street.

[1:35:47] And they just feel that, well, if they get a ticket once and 10 years,

[1:35:53] they don't think it's going to change street.

[1:35:54] added to. I would like to see some sort of committee to, you know, study and address this.

[1:36:06] It may be public relations, whether it used to come and the TV, public service announcements.

[1:36:20] You know, and I don't know, you know, you might just be banging your head against the

[1:36:24] but the tried to change people's attitude and to get them to realize when they do those

[1:36:30] during day and during other people.

[1:36:35] And they don't care about other people to get them

[1:36:37] to realize they're in day-drain ourselves. I mean, just driving over here today, I had

[1:36:42] at least five incidences of near crashes just because people were in a hurry. And, you know,

[1:36:51] Yes, there are attitude, you know, there are thousands of people doing us a day, I don't know how many tickets are given out probably in the hundreds.

[1:36:59] So, you know, it's a very small percentage of them aside.

[1:37:03] I think we had to change people's attitudes that, uh, going five miles over in a residential neighborhood is engaging the kids and the pedestrians in that neighborhood.

[1:37:15] take any questions, comments, and committee members, if not certain, to identify yourself

[1:37:23] that you would have just predicted?

[1:37:25] All right.

[1:37:25] I'm full of microphone calls.

[1:37:28] Good morning.

[1:37:29] My name is Norman Showtice.

[1:37:31] I live at 29, 26 out of Clement Avenue.

[1:37:35] We've owned the properties since 1954.

[1:37:40] And speeding on that street has always been a problem.

[1:37:44] Continuously, we had a major redo of Clement in 1983,

[1:37:55] the state wanted to widen that stretch.

[1:37:59] And we turned it down because we thought maybe a narrower street would slow the traffic.

[1:38:05] We had what these fellows called bumps in the street where they measure the traffic going

[1:38:15] right. They come from Oklahoma. They come from Kinnick-Kinnick and they gain speed. Our

[1:38:24] section were 20 and I live is probably the peak. They start up from the stop signs like this

[1:38:34] We said, they have stopped signs that can't connect here and they have a monocle homo.

[1:38:40] Well, by the time they get to our neighborhood, they are over the speed limit.

[1:38:47] Trust me on that.

[1:38:49] Between 4 and 430 and the afternoon, there's a school bus going down.

[1:38:57] And we could almost bet the farm, they're all over the speed limit.

[1:39:02] Now, if you want to, like this fellow said, have a cop car there and give out tickets, come

[1:39:09] at 4 between 4 and 430 and you'll get a lot of them, trust me.

[1:39:15] It seems like people are coming home for more good that time, and, of course, the school buses

[1:39:21] are traveling. It's a problem, really, and I don't know if always stops are going to solve

[1:39:30] it, but something has to be done. Trust me, Logan Avenue, on the same street intersection,

[1:39:39] has four-way stops. Now, I am to keep it accountable.

[1:39:44] Assuming that because I'm a part of his own,

[1:39:47] Robon Avenue, that's a very stop.

[1:39:51] I mean, I'm Robon, and I'm in the Koala and I have a hold.

[1:39:55] I'm necessary, but...

[1:40:00] It's very frustrating. We're looking for solutions all these years, and whatever has been done isn't working. Now, in any setting this postcard about the four-way stops, I thought, hey, that doesn't sound too bad. At least, can you can't install one on Idaho and one on Dakota, at least give us one.

[1:40:30] either on either street.

[1:40:35] It doesn't really belong, but

[1:40:41] I was looking at me like, hey, I don't know what I'm talking about.

[1:40:47] But you suggest if you address your remarks to the church, please. I don't know this fellow's name.

[1:40:54] But he knows any personal attack warranted in his case. You address your facts to the church.

[1:41:01] It was mentioned that faraway stops do not deter speed.

[1:41:08] I don't understand. I don't get that.

[1:41:11] If you stop that faraway stops, you're stopped.

[1:41:16] You're not speeding anymore. Are you?

[1:41:20] I mean,

[1:41:23] if they stop.

[1:41:25] Well, that's it. You know.

[1:41:27] And if they don't stop, unless you're up at this table, sir.

[1:41:31] If they don't stop, what's the punishment?

[1:41:37] Do they get a traffic ticket?

[1:41:40] If they're observed, I please offer, sir.

[1:41:42] Well, do they want to be speeding, you know?

[1:41:45] You do that.

[1:41:47] OK.

[1:41:48] I don't know what else to say.

[1:41:51] I was hoping that these four-way stops would be a solution,

[1:41:58] But if state or the city engineer doesn't approve of it, I guess there's nothing you can do, but fight city all.

[1:42:08] But I have to find some other way of controlling the traffic.

[1:42:13] So I have to say take it for your testimony. Mr. Bryson, we just have one thing Mr. Chairman, very briefly.

[1:42:21] I am going to be having a meeting with the residents on Clement Avenue and you end Mr.

[1:42:25] Bryson.

[1:42:26] You respect of what happens today to go over different options as well.

[1:42:32] So I look forward to seeing you at that.

[1:42:33] No, you will see me, okay.

[1:42:37] Thank you, Mr. Bryson.

[1:42:42] Do you indicate if there's one accident in this stretch over four years?

[1:42:46] That's what our record show, and generally the traffic, the idea for a four-way stop

[1:42:52] there's no equal volume, otherwise cars aren't really going to stop.

[1:42:56] And one street here is 515, you're the one about 5,000.

[1:43:00] That's correct.

[1:43:01] So you don't have that balance or my experience is that in the field of the safety,

[1:43:08] that when you don't have a reason to stop, people don't go through the next.

[1:43:13] So of course, comes from one, four, spent the next.

[1:43:15] So of course, comes from more, for a traffic signal, because they're not stopping.

[1:43:22] I don't know the Syria. The next day or two will down, if your southbound is connecting

[1:43:32] again to me, which meets about eight blocks away, by the way. I believe it's all I have

[1:43:38] with Rome all in chasing the Western. Which would mean that cars that, if you put into two

[1:43:45] that would, in effect,

[1:43:50] be two people from Craig using this as an arterial, and it would probably

[1:43:55] find my experience, I would probably, like what would have find the best route to quickest route,

[1:43:59] which would be down side streets. Usually, especially since they would, in this case, they would have to

[1:44:05] make the right turn if they're on KK, by how I have, you know, grow all the way to a local

[1:44:16] I don't know that I would support this.

[1:44:19] It's also a very narrow street.

[1:44:20] And I know that narrowness does allow the,

[1:44:25] I just psychologically move traffic slower.

[1:44:30] This is probably the natural,

[1:44:32] as you stay with the C1KK,

[1:44:35] and the signal at Oklahoma.

[1:44:38] By the traffic, we'll go somewhere else.

[1:44:40] The pro-restops, Mr. Brace, insults are indicated to luminous gaps up and down the street

[1:44:46] by having a car up your walk every five seconds. That's the time that you get to walk across the street.

[1:44:52] So this is a no-row word about a 332.

[1:44:56] For the roadway?

[1:44:58] I don't recall what the exact word.

[1:45:00] It nevertheless would take longer than five seconds to throw the streets. I personally can't support this, does that's all I have?

[1:45:12] Any other questions, comments from committee? I agree with the result that's probably going to occur here and that is a rejection of the stop sign. I am very sympathetic to the residence concern.

[1:45:25] And as the author of the traffic calming ordinance in the city of Milwaukee, and as the representative of the district that has a various number of speed homes in other traffic control devices,

[1:45:37] you know, as far as I'm concerned, people should be traveling 15,000 hour or less on all residential streets in the city of Milwaukee.

[1:45:44] I have found that in my study, I have funded all this agreement with the Uniform Code, Mr. Bryson and I are constantly clashing about traffic control issues.

[1:45:52] So he believes in moving one more bill, I believe in moving people, and it's just a fundamental

[1:45:57] force out about this agreement, which has carried through the development of urban space

[1:46:02] and urban places in this country for the last 50 years.

[1:46:05] Basically, if you want to slow down traffic, you have to physically obstruct traffic.

[1:46:10] Staff signs do not accomplish that go.

[1:46:12] Traffic signals to a minimal degree.

[1:46:15] Stop speed sign or a relevant ticketing is basically a relevant.

[1:46:19] There's not enough police to do the enforcement and frankly we'd rather have them enforcing

[1:46:24] and apprehending violent criminals than city-and-site streets,

[1:46:28] killing right our guns, the installation of physical barriers,

[1:46:32] whether it's speed homes, whether it's boulevard, whether it's bump house,

[1:46:35] whether it's speed tables, whatever the case may be, will slow down traffic

[1:46:39] because it makes fast driving physically uncomfortable,

[1:46:43] if not potentially damaging to the vehicle.

[1:46:45] And I take great pride in the fact that there's all kinds of

[1:46:48] squint marks on the downside of our speedhomes,

[1:46:51] which people have bottomed out their transmissions,

[1:46:55] and in a muffler system,

[1:46:56] because they're going over those speedhomes

[1:46:57] to 33,000 miles an hour.

[1:47:00] The solution to the problem is a physical obstruction.

[1:47:04] Now, because this is an arterial,

[1:47:05] there'd be a big argument about speedhomes.

[1:47:07] I'll tell you that already, they won't prove them,

[1:47:09] but a bullbide would be approval.

[1:47:12] And I'll direct your attention to

[1:47:14] street between 13th and 16th on the market campus, we installed a very

[1:47:20] tractor bullard, marketed the landscaping, the city did the basic

[1:47:23] infrastructure, and that held dramatically slow down traffic on

[1:47:28] well street. It held dramatically improved pedestrian safety for the

[1:47:33] hundreds of students that cross well street, coming from the off

[1:47:37] campus neighborhood areas to the campus proper. That is a solution.

[1:47:41] Now, as an expensive solution, in funding where obviously be a challenge, but that is why we

[1:47:47] have a new device in this, so you call a neighborhood improvement districts where neighborhoods

[1:47:51] can get together and basically create what's equivalent to a business improvement district,

[1:47:56] basically self-assess themselves and additional search hard on their property taxes for neighborhood

[1:48:02] improvements, which neighborhood improvements could absolutely include such things as curved bump

[1:48:07] and the boulevard, and that would at least partially address the funding issue.

[1:48:13] So there are solutions, in my opinion,

[1:48:15] they have to be physical obstructions.

[1:48:17] Stop signs will not accomplish the goal.

[1:48:18] They actually hurt the goal, because you have a false sense of security

[1:48:22] but a stop sign.

[1:48:23] And people are going to assume vehicles are going to stop.

[1:48:25] They don't.

[1:48:26] And you actually increase the risk to pedestrians crossing the street.

[1:48:30] Now, the whole pertinent business, I've heard these arguments a hundred times.

[1:48:33] We were through this constantly internally.

[1:48:34] This one just happens to have been aired out in the birth of an actual formal hearing.

[1:48:39] I believe in every other element on the council.

[1:48:41] Those who are this exercise, because there is a request.

[1:48:43] This is one of something done.

[1:48:45] They are entirely legitimate in their requests.

[1:48:47] A lot of the answers they get are counterintuitive.

[1:48:49] Like the last gentleman saying he can't put you off.

[1:48:53] Counterintuitive.

[1:48:54] How can people speed when they stop?

[1:48:55] That is a very good question.

[1:48:57] Except there is some truth to the fact that they will stop.

[1:48:59] That's the problem.

[1:49:00] They are just ignore the sign.

[1:49:02] If they don't think the sign is naturally required there or makes sense to be there or just ignore it, physical obstructions.

[1:49:10] Now, you'll get neighbors that'll push back. I guarantee it.

[1:49:13] You'll say, I want my freedom to drive as fast as I want, obstruct it.

[1:49:18] I don't want to be restricted in my ability to drive fast.

[1:49:21] We've had those fights in our neighborhoods, my own neighborhoods, where people do not want

[1:49:30] the appropriate infringed.

[1:49:32] Others want to control that speed, and we do that strictly in the majority of the

[1:49:36] basis.

[1:49:37] I'll say traffic coming when it's a structure, that's it.

[1:49:40] I was saying this street door, the boulevard of the answer, further near all those traffic

[1:49:44] lanes, which will absolutely store the traffic, you want to see them pericle example, go over

[1:49:49] a well-street between 13th and 15th, go over there right now, if not cut a final exam week,

[1:49:55] the last student's moving around and you will see traffic creeping through there at 15th.

[1:50:00] 2020, an hour. Frequently stopping to allow pedestrians to cross, even when there's no sign that doesn't

[1:50:07] stop. They just stop because it's the natural thing to do because it's a very intimate, confined environment.

[1:50:13] That's right, let's make it said. But in this particular file, I'm not going to support it.

[1:50:18] That because the city doesn't support it, but because I don't think it's going to help you a problem.

[1:50:22] I think there's other solutions to your problem. The more expensive, but nevertheless, this probably won't help the problem.

[1:50:29] Thank you, Governor.

[1:50:31] Convince questions or motion?

[1:50:34] Mr. Chair, I would move to place this item on file.

[1:50:38] It's been moved to place this item on file.

[1:50:41] Are there any objections?

[1:50:43] I'm sorry.

[1:50:45] Thank you.

[1:50:46] Okay, we're moved to item number five.

[1:50:49] File number one, one, seven, two, one.

[1:50:52] Substitute to resolution relative to the application,

[1:50:55] acceptance and funding of the 2012 beach monitoring grant

[1:50:59] in the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

[1:51:02] Good morning.

[1:51:04] Good morning.

[1:51:04] Well, business operations manager for the Health Department, before you is an annual grant from

[1:51:11] the State of Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources for 2012 Beach Monitoring Season.

[1:51:17] It is a 8,717 dollar grant small grant just to help us defray some of the cost of this

[1:51:24] for the summer season, it does start very shortly on May 17th, goes through the end of September.

[1:51:34] It does pay for a very small portion of one of our environmental and disease control specialists that helps with this project.

[1:51:42] Does this really post it?

[1:51:44] They put certain colors out or something.

[1:51:48] That's why not that is real quick.

[1:51:50] So you're going to say the beach is open on me.

[1:51:52] 17.

[1:51:52] No one's going to jump in and get out of the sun.

[1:51:54] Oh, right.

[1:51:55] You first.

[1:51:56] You want to get your first time?

[1:51:58] No.

[1:51:58] My kids were low.

[1:52:00] I'm tired under.

[1:52:01] What does it look like?

[1:52:02] It helps pattern.

[1:52:03] I'm an emergency.

[1:52:04] Badness coordinator.

[1:52:06] And yes, this grant does allow us to advise the country

[1:52:09] I would like to post, as a participant, as a bacteria in there.

[1:52:14] All right. Any questions by members?

[1:52:17] A little approval.

[1:52:17] I'll move approval.

[1:52:19] This may be referred to the Finance and Personnel Committee.

[1:52:23] Are there any objections to that?

[1:52:24] Here you're seeing on the sort.

[1:52:26] Thank you.

[1:52:27] Thank you.

[1:52:28] We will move to item number six.

[1:52:30] Found number one, one, one, seven, two, zero.

[1:52:33] Substitute Resolution, relative to application acceptance.

[1:52:37] You know, funding of the community health improvement in Medcap Park and Concordia saved lives in

[1:52:46] the United States grant from the Medical College of Wisconsin.

[1:52:49] Right.

[1:52:50] This is a 50 or a 5-year grant that we have received from the Medical College of Wisconsin.

[1:52:57] It is in the amount of this year's amount is $14,084 at runs from March 1 through the end

[1:53:04] of February of 2013.

[1:53:06] It does pay for a portion of one of our public health nurses in the immunization program to help with this project.

[1:53:15] Okay.

[1:53:16] And what is this less than 14 years of age?

[1:53:19] Lauren County.

[1:53:19] Correct.

[1:53:21] It's a research grant to help to eliminate immunization rate disparities within low income and racial

[1:53:29] of populations less than 14 years of age in this area.

[1:53:33] And the Metcalf Park can court yet area.

[1:53:36] OK, and how many people get the immunization?

[1:53:40] Yeah, I promise.

[1:53:41] It's all welcome.

[1:53:42] You have tried to throw out a question.

[1:53:43] Yes, of course, you do.

[1:53:45] Angelini, Epidemicologist.

[1:53:47] The city itself and all about 1200 children in the project.

[1:53:52] And with those children that participated

[1:53:54] they were able to dramatically increase the immunization

[1:53:57] to those children. They were able to increase the immunization rates in 19 to 35 months,

[1:54:02] so it's from 39% to 69% so it's automatic increase.

[1:54:07] That's a great good job. Okay any questions by members?

[1:54:12] I will then move forward and move forward approval. This may be referred to the Finance and Personnel Committee

[1:54:18] under any objections to that and you see a non-sort. Thank you. Keep up to the work.

[1:54:22] I think I am seven is, founder, one, one, one, one, seven, two, two,

[1:54:31] substitution, many common console files, one, one, zero, seven, the one, nine,

[1:54:39] relative to application acceptance and funding of the end,

[1:54:43] It's a rocky grant from M.A.C., it's from through diverse and resilient.

[1:54:53] This is adding $25,000 to the existing grant that we received earlier this year.

[1:55:00] Here, actually, at the end of 2011, in the amount of $50,000, so it brings it to $75,000, all of which is contractual

[1:55:07] dollars, most of which is advertising for the acceptance journeys program, or public relations

[1:55:16] project that is being run through diverse and resilient. So it is a public service program that

[1:55:25] has been done to help reduce the rates of AIDS and our community.

[1:55:31] Questions, comments, but can we remember, Mr. Chair?

[1:55:34] I mean, don't assume that, how is this actually coordinated with our existing community development

[1:55:40] block grant dollars that we get for HIV and AIDS also that we fund the HIV resource enough

[1:55:46] with, I mean, which is a dedicated funding, I mean is that we are doing some coordination

[1:55:51] a Marx agency, so that, you know, we're maximized in the money that's coming into the city of Milwaukee, and this is.

[1:55:59] Paul Beidjutsky, director of disease control environmental harfots, excellent questions.

[1:56:03] So, this is part of a multi-faceted strategy.

[1:56:06] I'm working with diverse and resilient ARCW in other community-based agencies around social marketing to young black MSN populations.

[1:56:14] We're seeing the greatest increase in HIV infection and AIDS.

[1:56:17] CDC study done in 2009, and at the age study, here in the city of Milwaukee revealed

[1:56:23] a 218% increase over the period of 1999 to 2008 in that population, young black MSN population

[1:56:32] by young and in 15 to 29 years of age MSN refers to many of sex with men who identify

[1:56:38] his either being gay or bisexual, and particularly how it hit our young African-Americans.

[1:56:43] of the social marketing campaign is really directed towards minority youth in terms of building

[1:56:50] community acceptance, reducing community stigmatization in our community homophobia.

[1:56:56] So, let me go a little bit step further on this particular grid.

[1:57:00] This is great going to do our analysis a young man who are infected by a maybe an issue

[1:57:08] with the release of incarcerated individuals that may be released back into the population

[1:57:13] and the media call it carrying a virus.

[1:57:15] And if it's not, can we actually track that?

[1:57:18] Because for some odd reason, there has to be a systemic reason

[1:57:22] on why we're saying this uptake.

[1:57:24] And for what I understand, with the disparity in a concentration

[1:57:27] rate in the state of penal system here in the city

[1:57:30] of Milwaukee, and based upon the rules of correction,

[1:57:33] and that we have to ease it back

[1:57:35] into the value in which the offended two.

[1:57:38] I'm more interested in finding out

[1:57:39] a different fact that may be one of many indicators.

[1:57:42] Yeah, this grant runs specifically target that core.

[1:57:45] It really is looking at young men as part of the CDC study back in 2009, that identified

[1:57:52] community stigmatization, hemophobia, economic instability, in particular housing instability,

[1:57:59] and then high-risk sexual situations, including non-disclosure of HIV infection by older men,

[1:58:06] to younger men, and being the primary culprits.

[1:58:08] We do have some limited data on the prison court you're referring to in release back to

[1:58:13] community.

[1:58:14] It isn't the primary driver for the epidemic we're seeing in young black men and this

[1:58:19] grant has not addressed the court, it really focuses on social marketing to really reduce

[1:58:24] barriers around community stigmatization and overall community homophobia regarding the LGBT

[1:58:30] community.

[1:58:32] So we're going to apply those statistics.

[1:58:33] Well, we certainly could provide those as are collected by the State Division of Public

[1:58:37] And certainly, we can get you that information.

[1:58:38] Then you please, because I hope this needs to be a discussion amongst the African American community.

[1:58:46] Regarding, I mean, if we're talking about incarceration and corrections,

[1:58:50] and if we know that there may be a health issue within side of corrections,

[1:58:55] where it may be at first the effect of your population here and you're wrong,

[1:58:59] there are certainly needs to be an agenda.

[1:59:01] And so if you can help us get the statistical data in order for us to find the discussion

[1:59:05] that would be very helpful.

[1:59:06] Absolutely, have a minute.

[1:59:08] Take on, Davison.

[1:59:10] Here we can.

[1:59:10] It's a question, right?

[1:59:11] Will it members?

[1:59:13] We have not done it in Davison.

[1:59:16] Who's a provoked and doing more direction-sword.

[1:59:20] Thank you.

[1:59:24] I might eat file number.

[1:59:27] One, two, zero, zero, eight, six.

[1:59:29] Communication for the Commissioner of Health.

[1:59:31] We're leading to infant mortality statistics.

[1:59:35] We're on a telecracker agenda.

[1:59:36] Okay.

[1:59:38] I ask that this file be added to commissioners recently released statistics in this area.

[1:59:47] I think the committee would like to know where we've been, what the status is now,

[1:59:53] how we got here and where we're going with this.

[1:59:56] This is an item of valuable importance to me.

[2:00:03] Thank you, Mr. Chair. Members of the committee, for the opportunity to show a bill to a guardian from a child and be a community local commissioner, joined by Anna Benton, who is the end of the health hospitalization, some administrative and also has a responsibility for a family recovery reduction program. I'll be very brief in the time, and I'll leave most of my time for our dialogue in question, so you may have what I wanted to do,

[2:00:29] to just share the recent data every year to data that we are recently put forth regarding

[2:00:36] our 2011 data to highlight some of our progress in the Department and the progress from

[2:00:43] partners in the community and describe how we intend to meet some of the goals that we

[2:00:49] recently set up which at the end board-based levels.

[2:00:55] As I mentioned really, we missed the 2011 preliminary figures and they were yet to be verified by the State of Wisconsin,

[2:01:05] but the real data is that in 2011 tragically and we had a hundred infantry died prior to the first birthday Milwaukee.

[2:01:14] And while this is giving you from deficit tragic and that total strategy, put it in context,

[2:01:20] it is still the second lowest number of infant deaths in Milwaukee's history.

[2:01:26] What that births in terms of a rate in 2001 and a rate from the power of the overall, there's

[2:01:32] 2.2 per 1,000 births, and that is a decline from 2010 data, which was 10.4, and we use what

[2:01:41] we call it three year rolling average, which makes it more

[2:01:44] statistically significant.

[2:01:45] By race, the breakdown is as follows.

[2:01:49] That's 14.5 for African Americans.

[2:01:51] That's a little uptake from 2010, from 14.4 per thousand,

[2:01:56] for Caucasians, it's down to 5.0 per thousand,

[2:02:01] from 5.2 in 2010 and for Hispanic babies.

[2:02:05] It is 8.0 per thousand, down from 8.5.

[2:02:10] So we still have a downward trend.

[2:02:14] A data and analyzing a data for 2011, we see and expect the trends that we've seen in the past,

[2:02:22] about 30 to 60% of all of these deaths or due to poor maturity and other 20% of due to

[2:02:28] continual abnormalities and about additional 20% due to unsafe sleep.

[2:02:35] So, last year, I'm here a bit and I'm still here as a city we would like to have a go

[2:02:42] by 2017 to reduce the overall rate by 10% by 2017 to 9.4 and to reduce the African

[2:02:52] American from the power of the by 15% to 12.0 by 2017, some positive news here is that

[2:03:01] We've done our three-year rolling average, which I just talked about, which is now a 10.2.

[2:03:09] We are on a downward trend that puts our go-with-and-site.

[2:03:16] We've had in the last several years a drop that's hovering around 14% and certainly over the last six or six or eight years we've seen about a 20% drop.

[2:03:29] But they're still in my way to get done, particularly in the African American, in black and

[2:03:35] from Calorie.

[2:03:37] We have a full bond approach, a very quickly direct service.

[2:03:40] We still need to meet people on our community where they are.

[2:03:43] We have to research and evaluate how we're providing those services.

[2:03:48] We have what aggressive public education campaign, and then perhaps the most critical component

[2:03:52] is community partnerships.

[2:03:55] Other ex-service we continue to do the work in the 11 targeted zip codes, as we're going

[2:04:01] to where this is the most difficult and where it's having the greatest impact.

[2:04:06] We'd have some home visitation programs to put about a thousand families living in rural

[2:04:10] and we've done about 23,000 home visits and such exceptions.

[2:04:14] And we still provide kids for kids and that we come in contact with, whatever program

[2:04:24] where you can call and get education, we distribute nearly 25 hundred crores since 2009

[2:04:30] and given education to the moms and dad. That's something that's very important. We've

[2:04:36] been a successful and leveraging private dollars for that. We just recently got 50,000 dollars

[2:04:43] We need to talk your foundation for recruits and best of our national foundation, so we've

[2:04:51] been able to provide recruits that I'll give us about a six-month allocation of recruits

[2:04:56] for anyone who needs it.

[2:04:59] We are still...

[2:05:00] Sorting every day, we're just tragic, but we have our team chair, we're quickly doing this. Do you have the phone number for the crews that they can call for? So, you know, our TV? Yes, you know, we can dial our, I mean, number, and they can find it on our website 286A, you know, I'm sorry, I'm last at now.

[2:05:18] 62521. 232521? We're in 30 yet now, 266. 286. 2521. Thank you. And it's also on our website, and we have a lot of literature out there.

[2:05:28] I don't know if you get to your website.

[2:05:32] Milwaukee.gov slash health.

[2:05:34] All right, so they're quick.

[2:05:35] I know it.

[2:05:35] I mean, I know it is just for the public.

[2:05:38] If they want to get this information.

[2:05:40] Sure.

[2:05:41] Thank you.

[2:05:42] We've also been a little bit of leverage private dollars.

[2:05:44] I mean, then it will be a little bit of Milwaukee.

[2:05:46] Last, probably.

[2:05:47] I think it was significant.

[2:05:48] Grant to have the public 200,000 dollars.

[2:05:51] As they've made infertile to one of four strategies.

[2:05:55] We've also leveraged money from our own community development block grant.

[2:05:58] We're about $75,000, which will also support

[2:06:03] groups of kids throughout the rest of the year.

[2:06:06] So we're using tax-labeled dollars in that way.

[2:06:09] We have a great partnership with the Zibbers School

[2:06:11] of Public Health, which will soon have it's

[2:06:14] been cutting so many on June 7th, but we're excited

[2:06:17] about our partnership with that research and education

[2:06:21] institution and the arrival of their founding dean, Dean Peck,

[2:06:26] who was an expert in the form of a child in the middle of the childhood health issues.

[2:06:31] So there was some synergy there that will come what I'm most excited about is the life

[2:06:37] course initiative for healthy families and as you may recall, this was a $2 million investment

[2:06:43] by the University of Wisconsin and Madison School of Medicine and Public Health to invest

[2:06:49] into infernal mortality and about a year and a half to years ago they put money on the ground

[2:06:56] to do planning and just a few weeks ago there was a report to the community about that partnership.

[2:07:01] We've been at the table of many institutions and agencies and community individuals

[2:07:06] who are at the table and they're just about to roll out their grant process for that and

[2:07:12] that's going to have the greatest potential for impact because we have had the opportunity

[2:07:18] for two years to plan and look at how that, how that can work.

[2:07:22] So that investment of $10 million by, you know,

[2:07:25] the U.S. Wisconsin and Madison is going to

[2:07:28] pay dividends here and we're going to be a part of that.

[2:07:31] The last three points I wanted to make one is that

[2:07:34] you've seen our social marketing campaigns,

[2:07:37] our strong baby campaigns, they've gotten national attention.

[2:07:41] We had a cast in call last year that had five new strong babies.

[2:07:45] You've seen them on billboards.

[2:07:47] You've seen them on bus tells, you've seen them everywhere.

[2:07:49] and those are actually Milwaukee's babies who are featured there.

[2:07:54] We've also seen some of our ads for the dangers of co-sleeping.

[2:07:59] And now they were controversial.

[2:08:01] We did increase the dialogue regarding co-sleeping.

[2:08:04] And we've gotten your national attention to the time magazine,

[2:08:08] the Washington Post, in the CBC, the view, the debate show.

[2:08:12] They all feature discussions around Milwaukee's ad.

[2:08:16] It wasn't to generate that necessarily that media exposure, but it was to increase the battle all the way here in Milwaukee.

[2:08:24] And I think it's just, we are more social marketing campaigns to come to try and reach the individuals we need to reach.

[2:08:32] And then we have, finally, our third annual summit on Informer Towers.

[2:08:36] We wanted the first large half to Barnes and Nation to do a summit on Informer Towers.

[2:08:41] our first summit on this issue dealt with safe sleep. Then we follow up with some of it on

[2:08:50] being the tour. And on June 6th at the Italian Community Center, we will have a inform

[2:08:58] account of the summit on social determinants, testing looking at everything from early childhood

[2:09:03] education, employment, transportation, income, all those things impact both outcomes. And we

[2:09:09] initially known team note that's coming in and we'll also hear from the other experts.

[2:09:16] And that's a way that we want to address this in multi-forms.

[2:09:21] So I've handed for the record two graphs.

[2:09:25] One that shows how we're tracking our three year rolling average from back as far as

[2:09:33] 1895 up to the current date, and you can see a dear depicted graphically what I've described

[2:09:39] earlier in terms of African American Caucasian Milwaukee's overall rate in Hispanic

[2:09:43] rate.

[2:09:44] And then there was one additional graph that could include it, and it's just to give you an

[2:09:49] indication of the complexity of it from Macau, that it is not as simple as many of the,

[2:09:55] And there are so many things that impact the benefit of death.

[2:10:00] Triggers, unsafe sleep, permittivity to buckle up a half-secondhand smoke, accidents, homicides, stress, racism, poverty, housing, transportation, food insecurity.

[2:10:14] So, it's a multi-pound approach that we have to have.

[2:10:18] I will be pleased that we are at the 30-year-old low in our overall rate, second-lose in the history of Milwaukee.

[2:10:25] Yes, but we are not anywhere near being done, there is so much more work.

[2:10:29] We are still a black-white gap in terms of the mortality.

[2:10:32] Blacks are three times more likely to have an infant die of the first birth day than whites in the city.

[2:10:39] And that is true and unacceptable.

[2:10:41] We have a lot of work ahead of us to get that plan.

[2:10:44] So we're leveraging resources.

[2:10:46] We will take every tax, let me dollar, and try to get a three-for-one return on

[2:10:51] the investment because we have taken private dollars to leverage the tax, let me

[2:10:56] dollars.

[2:10:58] We have some great staff who are, again, who made over 20,000 visits in the last

[2:11:05] to use, and we need to have a re-double our efforts, and we need to go on the

[2:11:09] re-double it.

[2:11:10] So, with that being said, I'm free to answer any questions that you may have regarding this

[2:11:16] current update on it from the power of the reduction in the city of Milwaukee.

[2:11:20] Can we share the, you mentioned this is, does it your second best that we've done, how

[2:11:28] do we stack up?

[2:11:29] I guess ourselves, we look like we're stacking up there and we used to, how do we stack up

[2:11:33] against the rest of the nation, the rest of the world with this trade.

[2:11:38] Well, sadly, Milwaukee still has one of the highest back informat all the way to the nation.

[2:11:46] And when we look at other developing countries, and we have rates that are higher than just about a year or else.

[2:11:55] I mean, Cuba has better rates.

[2:11:57] Sri Lanka has better rates, and many of the countries on the continent, I think I have better

[2:12:03] rates.

[2:12:04] So we really need to zero in on why is that this has to be our whole community's concern.

[2:12:11] While we're having the decline, we're still, and the U.S. is having the decline in many ways.

[2:12:16] They're still a gap between the national rates and the Milwaukee's rates.

[2:12:22] So we're going down, but the rest of the country's going down to that we had so far to

[2:12:27] come from.

[2:12:28] So I think that the fact that we're having everyone who's beginning to discuss this issue,

[2:12:34] the fact that some of the front page of our hometown paper as an agenda item and has been

[2:12:40] for the last several years makes it a hot, bad and issue, and it needs to be that way

[2:12:47] we can close to get, but quite can't really, we don't feel well when we look at the top 40

[2:12:53] larger cities. It is a lot of work to be done, and it should be to some extent an investment

[2:13:01] for our state and our city that Milwaukee, you know, it's ranked in the lower, lower

[2:13:06] top 40 in terms of recovery outcomes. What would a typical average rate be nationally here?

[2:13:13] Well, you know, I'll go forward back to the graph that we've depicted there, but we wanted

[2:13:25] to get to 9.4 over all by 2017, and that would take us within the realm, the middle

[2:13:36] of the pack, in terms of national rates.

[2:13:39] just look at the satellite black and white, you know, you're working at 5.0, just to think

[2:13:45] about where we are.

[2:13:48] We could close the gap in terms of what we're working, you know?

[2:13:51] I mean, at a little bit.

[2:13:53] The most recent data is that I've five to six late overall across the nation.

[2:13:58] That's for everybody in between 13 and 15 per 1,000 for African Americans.

[2:14:02] So we are a bit higher than the national average.

[2:14:04] And the goal is to close that black white gap.

[2:14:07] Because even if we got to 13, we'd be the most African-Americans in most big cities, why is it that we're 13, and then there are Caucasians who are 5 or 6, so why is it that Hispanics are 8 or 9?

[2:14:23] We got to reduce that gap between persons of color, and I think that's where the investment has to be made, and that's where it is being made.

[2:14:32] We're hitting better and in the carcassion rate is getting better and it makes still

[2:14:37] all we come down a little bit but when you put a laser on it we still are far from what

[2:14:43] we want to be nationally.

[2:14:45] How do we target the people that we're addressing with the programs and how do we evaluate

[2:14:51] the programs?

[2:14:53] I've got to commend the department and you've had a role for the grant work that I...

[2:15:00] To grant work, we send off a lot of files coming through here that some of them are big dollar amounts, some of them are small dollar amounts, but appreciate that every one of them are adding together to attack this problem.

[2:15:14] But how do we target the areas we're targeting?

[2:15:17] We'll see evaluation, I guess. Lastly, you mentioned in home visits, there was about a thousand of them.

[2:15:30] There's a great deal to do yet, there's a drop in a bucket, are we hitting everybody?

[2:15:36] That was a lot, but do they get a big deal to do?

[2:15:39] Yeah, I'll start with the evaluation.

[2:15:41] I'll have in a talk a little bit about the targeting.

[2:15:44] One of the things that has been done and again going back to the life course model and going back to the fact that there's a community collaboratively to do this is that we're

[2:15:55] find the pump for the last 18 months on,

[2:15:59] on figuring out what is going to be the best

[2:16:01] community-based strategy for Milwaukee.

[2:16:04] There was going to be infusion of money.

[2:16:06] It's $2 million over a year for the next five years.

[2:16:11] And there will be grants that will go out.

[2:16:14] So, and we have partnered with many agencies

[2:16:17] and many entities who are going to research and evaluate

[2:16:21] from baseline, how effective we are.

[2:16:23] But the three thing is there's community at the table.

[2:16:27] There's not just the people who are impacted,

[2:16:29] who have been a part of this 18-month planning,

[2:16:33] and others who have lost babies, fathers, who have lost babies,

[2:16:36] who are there.

[2:16:37] We're going to bring in into the discussion.

[2:16:39] There's going to be men who are involved.

[2:16:42] These are fathers, and that's something that's been missing.

[2:16:45] So we're going to evaluate the effectiveness of that.

[2:16:48] And I think we have the opportunity now

[2:16:50] to baseline some of these methodologies.

[2:16:54] And we will continue to use our feelings from a cloud

[2:16:58] of a beautiful, unfortunate cause,

[2:17:00] those inference will make the miles.

[2:17:02] But we will also know that we're going to have

[2:17:05] the best strategies for these 12 or 13 zip codes

[2:17:10] that have high rates of a little cloud

[2:17:13] that will go in your deal with some of those issues.

[2:17:16] So the evaluation piece is going to partly come from the UW

[2:17:20] school medicine and public health course initiative, Center for Urban Population Health, and

[2:17:24] very own Milwaukee Health Department in terms of evaluating how these programs are working

[2:17:30] and will be providing these reports back to this common council and but reports as a collaborative

[2:17:37] back to the community. We had the first one just a few weeks ago and we said, this is what

[2:17:41] we know in terms of our planning and this is how we're going to attack it. We'll have to come

[2:17:45] back in a year and say, this is how it's working. I'm going to have another talk a little bit

[2:17:51] So, every year, we just make sure that we are operating in the correct zip codes, so we

[2:17:55] really analyze where the premature babies are being born, the low birth rate and where

[2:17:59] the infant deaths are.

[2:18:01] So, right now, we're in 12 key target zip codes with a highest percentage of those three factors.

[2:18:06] And we're confident that that's really what we need to focus on.

[2:18:09] So, in turn, when we evaluate our programs, no successes, we'll look at those three factors.

[2:18:13] And we've been really pleased, especially with our empowering families in Milwaukee, which is a

[2:18:17] biggest program. It's a $4.5 million grant from the state. We see rates of prematurely and

[2:18:22] robust weight that are less than half of the average within the zip codes that they're operating

[2:18:27] in. So we know that we are having an impact. When we reach that pregnant woman, early in her pregnancy

[2:18:32] and we can give her the education and the resources, we can actually affect the birth outcomes there.

[2:18:38] So that's a key measure of our success. In the long term, we need to look at whether or not

[2:18:42] down and it is. You asked if we're really capturing everyone that we need to be seeing or if

[2:18:48] it's a drop in the bucket. It's a drop in the bucket. We have around 10,000 birds each year

[2:18:53] in the city. Many or most of those I would say are two at risk moms. So we're only able to see

[2:18:59] 300 to 500 families that I need to give them time. So yeah, it's a drop in the bucket. That's

[2:19:05] where we target. That's where we focus on the highest risk areas. If we had many hundreds of

[2:19:10] of dollars, no, many millions of dollars, no, we could do more, but we're doing the best

[2:19:14] without we can.

[2:19:17] You know, collaboration, you mentioned that you'd collaborate, what agencies do you collaborate

[2:19:23] with, who's the leader, you'd see in the group on this problem?

[2:19:30] Well, I've referenced the fact that we support the life course initiative for healthy families,

[2:19:38] and there were a hundred agencies that were working on the form of childhood reduction

[2:19:41] in this community at one time, but there wasn't one convening place, one convening strategy.

[2:19:51] Certainly there was a role for government of public health and we were at the table.

[2:19:55] We're part of the student committee for that life course initiative.

[2:19:57] But the life course initiative money is that we're coming.

[2:20:00] Permanison, was just to do what you describe. Was to have a convening body where everyone can to just do the great work that they're doing in terms of the right care.

[2:20:09] We're not changing what we're doing here at the city, but we will work together with others who are doing this on a multi-fone approach.

[2:20:16] So there is a, a, a, a, a, a, a steering committee that we participated on, they're

[2:20:22] who's going to be Grant, stage, and Cease.

[2:20:25] Uh, going forward.

[2:20:27] Um, we have, uh, our, uh, as, uh, as, as the public health authority to, um, to lead

[2:20:33] where we can, we have our, our programs that have been described.

[2:20:37] But right now, the life course is a program that we are, um, embracing, uh, that includes,

[2:20:43] The medical college includes a black-up coalition to close the planning council, it includes

[2:20:48] the federal e-commerce centers, it includes the large hospital systems where we can

[2:20:54] claim your St. Mary's favorite children's hospital that are at the table. And the great

[2:20:59] thing about this is that we're not trying to emulate what Boston or Cleveland or Chicago is doing.

[2:21:05] We're coming up with a Milwaukee model. We've had 18 months of planning to do this.

[2:21:08] We have funding to keep everyone at the table, but more importantly, we raise the conscious

[2:21:15] of the community.

[2:21:15] You have community folk who are at the table, who are invested so.

[2:21:19] The right course is the vehicle that we're hitting our efforts to and one that we're

[2:21:25] most excited about.

[2:21:28] We're meeting as a collaborator, there was not one convening body, but the right course is

[2:21:33] all of us have skin in the game, all of us have one outcome that we want.

[2:21:38] which is to reduce the disparities, they buy into our notion of reducing the overall rate by

[2:21:47] 10% and after American rate by 15% the goal of the local solution is to have zero

[2:21:52] disparities to compose the gap completely. And that's where we want to go. What we're doing

[2:21:57] at City Health Department is to say we've got to get there in community. We've got to show

[2:22:04] movement of the needle, and by having a 10% reduction, we said a bull go, we only know one

[2:22:11] other entity that has been able to reduce the overall rate by 10%, and that was a city

[2:22:16] of Baltimore.

[2:22:17] They did it, but they didn't reduce the African American rate, they bought the whole rate

[2:22:20] down, but they didn't bring the African American rate down.

[2:22:23] So when doing our research, we put a line in the sand and said, we want 10% by 2017, I hope

[2:22:29] come back to this table and said that we would beat that mark or met that mark.

[2:22:36] The life court just wants us to get to zero and I think we'll get to zero one day but

[2:22:41] there's going to require a whole community so you will hear much more in the coming weeks

[2:22:47] about the life court should have the families and how Milwaukee Health Department is engaged

[2:22:51] with them and we'll hear more about our great work by our dedicated city employees to continue

[2:22:57] This incremental approach to reducing information power in our community.

[2:23:04] In the grants written to other agencies that are funded in some of the asset pass through this community,

[2:23:11] are those collaborating partners who are still on the same page.

[2:23:17] And I leave our way to see that they're affected and what they're doing.

[2:23:20] I do think that for the first time in a long time, and this didn't happen overnight, it was 18 months of a very difficult, and it times very passionate discussion, all going to be measured by the same accountability, and there are some principles of that accountability and we have to report back to our community.

[2:23:45] I think that this is something that we have to go into, I think I'd be a little

[2:23:53] on thought, and I said that everybody's on the same page.

[2:23:57] You know, the Kentucky Daily last week they put horses into the gate.

[2:24:02] Other than the jumping and moving around, they had to close the gate behind it.

[2:24:06] We, at that point, were pushing all the horses into the gate.

[2:24:10] The door seemed to be closed behind us and then I think we had one goal which is to run into a new

[2:24:15] simple metallic and to run this race together.

[2:24:18] The top part has been getting all these horses into the gate running at one time.

[2:24:22] I think we're closer than we've been and my eight or ten years have commercial and I'm like

[2:24:26] loving your team work with the city.

[2:24:29] This is a closest I've seen one a core of one focus and in from the tower of adoption.

[2:24:35] And then in terms of evaluation, you'll evaluate the future,

[2:24:41] I'm really asking about how we evaluate our subcontractors, is that correct?

[2:24:45] Yeah, we're very, very strict with subcontractors.

[2:24:48] We're very detailed contracts that we sign with them, which lay out exactly what we expect,

[2:24:53] what outcomes we expect, we monitor those on a weekly and monthly basis for a program,

[2:24:57] like empowering them as a Milwaukee.

[2:25:00] We need regularly as a team, as managers, as staff, they actually go out to home visits as a team. So it's incredibly tightly linked. There's nothing that could happen in that program that wouldn't be under our preview and oversight.

[2:25:12] So we're very confident that those programs are meeting their outcomes. If they weren't, we would probably end their contract.

[2:25:17] So there's our same page on course looping.

[2:25:22] I think that, let me just say one thing that I'll mention course looping, which is certainly

[2:25:27] created a lot of favor of discussion in this community.

[2:25:32] I do think that this evaluation piece, I mean, the fact that this public hearing today

[2:25:38] is a report on different how the reduction is great.

[2:25:44] The fact that our media partners and our papers and the journalists are putting this at the forefront,

[2:25:53] they'll put this up to the community's contracts.

[2:25:56] They used to be that when a baby guy here was reported that a baby guy here, now the question is,

[2:26:00] what are you doing and how are you doing and how are you holding the whole Milwaukee community accountable for this?

[2:26:06] I think that that is a positive thing.

[2:26:08] And so while we're evaluating programs, I do think that if the communities conscious surrounding

[2:26:15] infinite death is different than it was four years ago, no, for God to save sleep, we all

[2:26:21] want to do safe sleep in our community. There are certain parts of our community to believe

[2:26:25] that it is still okay and still an isn't way or appropriate way to bid cheer or to have

[2:26:34] have been a little there. We are going to walk a health department, give you from that opinion.

[2:26:40] We have stayed at, and about the safest place for a baby. It's, it's in the crib on

[2:26:47] its back, in a bed, and in the same room with the God of the Independent. Not everyone agrees

[2:26:54] with that, but everyone agrees that 20% of the deaths that happen to infant's in this community

[2:26:59] can be, and should be avoided.

[2:27:03] We're not backing off of that.

[2:27:05] And I know that those are not fighting rules.

[2:27:07] That's just the public talk authority's position.

[2:27:11] But we understand that there are many in our communities who are looking at this issue of site sleep differently.

[2:27:18] It's probably the most volatile of all of the discussions around the towering.

[2:27:22] It has created the most intense blogs, the discussions,

[2:27:26] cars, follow-ups and letters that anything I've seen in my two-year self-commissioner.

[2:27:32] But it doesn't change the fact that no baby should die in a belt there, because there

[2:27:37] was sleeping with someone in the city. And we can fix that. There's a 100% affordable dust if we

[2:27:44] just take the baby out the bed. So, is everyone on the same page? No. Does everyone believe

[2:27:49] that we've got to work on this issue? A bed sharing and co-sleeping absolutely. But I would

[2:27:55] And speaking less than the truth, if I said that everyone was on the same page.

[2:28:00] I guess I would urge you to continue to try to be on the same page and if they're funded

[2:28:07] to grant to prove by this body that there's some leverage that they're going to participate

[2:28:14] as a partner.

[2:28:18] Commissioner Westery ruled out a new program.

[2:28:21] What is the future look like, what's going on for the future in this area?

[2:28:28] Well, I think we were pleased yesterday at the Women's Initiative lunch and at the local hotel,

[2:28:37] who we made that a program called Women to Women.

[2:28:40] And it is going to hopefully turn from the way that we, as citizens, look at this whole issue

[2:28:48] of infirmary, 100 women, 100 stories, and it's a video campaign regarding every woman sharing

[2:28:58] through her own wisdom, what it felt like, what happened, the fears, the joys, what it meant

[2:29:05] to be pregnant, and what they were following in the emotions.

[2:29:10] And even some of them sharing the heart-wrenching stories that I'm a mother by a boy so had

[2:29:16] baby who didn't make it, the best teacher for a mother to be is a mother who is already

[2:29:23] dead. And I think that this video is a great attempt to humanize and to link that these

[2:29:32] of Milwaukee's children. It doesn't matter whether you live north or south of the vibe, because

[2:29:36] it doesn't matter whether you are high income or low income. No one on this earth wants to see a baby

[2:29:41] die unnecessarily before it's first birthday. So what we did this important

[2:29:46] relationship with the zippers group by the cow.

[2:29:48] We are a bit in Milwaukee, so at the marketing, it's a great opportunity for 100 women.

[2:29:58] They can receive this from these types.

[2:30:00] In the next 17 weeks, a different story from a different one. There were many districts, there were

[2:30:07] a few neighbors. They were being your grandchildren, daughters, they could be anyone and they were

[2:30:13] more rocky. And this is sponsored by a 90 to $0.00 a grant from the Centers for Disease Control.

[2:30:20] We hope that we'll go viral. We hope the CDC will pick this up and it will be national. It is probably

[2:30:27] You wanted to bust things that I've seen in a long long time, you know, if you had anything you want to add.

[2:30:32] No, just to clarify, it did not take the entire $100,000 grant.

[2:30:36] There were seven different initiatives funded through that CDC grant, and this was just one of the seven.

[2:30:53] Thank you.

[2:30:54] on the graph that you gave us is the reduction in the American, if you're mortality rate.

[2:31:01] And although in our appreciate your comments, although we've seen a reduction, it's not, you know, you didn't meet your benchmarks.

[2:31:08] And I want to talk about two indicators that you have on the following pie chart that you have.

[2:31:13] And then his lifestyle and how lifestyle and behavior patterns are playing a role in addition to

[2:31:23] the issue that I was involved in, and that is second hand smoke for young people, for young people, for the infants.

[2:31:33] And what is the department really doing to promote the lifestyle changes?

[2:31:37] Because when I take a look at certain urban neighborhoods,

[2:31:42] There are a lot of pleasing things where mothers and also children have an opportunity to get healthy things in order for them to extend their life.

[2:31:53] So through the Department in which we issue full difference license and also we interact with those mothers as they're becoming pregnant.

[2:32:03] And the good things that they should put in their body, and I can go into ethnic specific

[2:32:11] myths that part of just normal diet, that could be contributing to this particular indicator

[2:32:19] where we're starting to see infants, not survived because of a lack of prenatal care, but

[2:32:25] also a healthy lifestyle from the mother.

[2:32:29] How are we targeting that aspect of it?

[2:32:33] It is perhaps one of the biggest issues that we could attack going upstream and that is those

[2:32:41] environmental issues and those lifestyle issues.

[2:32:43] The fact that we are sitting in a smoke-free building and the fact that we can go into

[2:32:47] restaurant in the city and sit in a smoke-free restaurant is a huge positive.

[2:32:53] We'll pay dividends down the road.

[2:32:55] We just don't know how great they are this year.

[2:32:57] But the exposure to second-hand smoke even in a restaurant setting for a woman who is pregnant doesn't even know she's pregnant, it's hint.

[2:33:06] If we could just keep women from smoking in their pregnancies, we would have a statistically significant reduction of prenatuity, which is the main cause of a different death in Milwaukee.

[2:33:17] But this issue, the obesity, the issue of access to good food and lifestyle and exercise is so important.

[2:33:23] as we changed the whole economic and long-term outcome of our city.

[2:33:28] We may have just heard the report from the CDC today said that the trends while not

[2:33:33] happening, as quickly as they got, but we've heard to percent of all the bills will be

[2:33:40] obvious and the trajectory that we're going in the, by 20, 20, we've got to change that.

[2:33:47] We've been walking while we're known for a lot of things, we cannot, should not be known

[2:33:51] for our growth and unhealthy lifestyle.

[2:33:54] We need to do more as a little economic development

[2:33:57] to make certain you're not food deserts and turf

[2:33:59] and unity.

[2:34:00] We can't ask people to eat good food

[2:34:02] when they don't have access to good food.

[2:34:04] They're corner stores, they don't sell fresh food,

[2:34:07] food, foods, or vegetables.

[2:34:09] We're doing things about that.

[2:34:10] We're working with growing power,

[2:34:12] we're working with fine-tuned schools with the NPS.

[2:34:16] We're working with the first study, Michelle Obama's,

[2:34:19] less moved initiative in the designate very soon as a less moved city. There's some

[2:34:26] things that we're doing trying to engage local produce collaborative and

[2:34:32] and improve markets. I think that the issue here is that I want to say

[2:34:38] all of them is that this won't happen overnight, but the investment has to happen

[2:34:43] today. We've got invest in a healthier community. We've got to deal with

[2:34:48] balance as a public health concern as well. We've got to make sure the people feel safe. We're

[2:34:52] looking forward to walk, bike, one, and to be outside and we've got to be with that issue.

[2:35:01] And then I think that when we look at the development of those building stores and establishments in our city, we need to say, what is the long term implications of that type of establishment going in that district and that store.

[2:35:17] And what it's going to do to the people there. We need to go back a whole into back of distribution in our city.

[2:35:22] And so I think that we're attacking that through

[2:35:26] through collaboration to partnerships and to education.

[2:35:30] We're still doing our strong baby campaign is just about that.

[2:35:33] You need routes, your baby can be strong, get your baby,

[2:35:37] the fruits, the exercise that it needs.

[2:35:40] We're still going to make those women visits,

[2:35:42] but secondhand smoke is huge.

[2:35:44] If we could just keep money from smoking.

[2:35:47] We want to ask that we want to emulate a possible,

[2:35:49] What we see in cities like Philadelphia and something that I'm hoping that it could be a possible

[2:35:54] over here in Philadelphia, they had a smoking cessation program for mothers who were pregnant.

[2:36:03] And in that program, if you did not smoke during the pregnancy, you would see diapers for the life of the baby.

[2:36:12] The program was so successful that it was targeted to work in an inner city of women in a full

[2:36:21] doctor that they had to shut it down because they were wealthy, subliminant women were driving

[2:36:27] into full of opia to enroll in the program so they could get their blood drawn and to see

[2:36:33] those nicotine in it so they could get access.

[2:36:35] So we know if there's an incentive there to stop women or to educate women about smoking

[2:36:41] to do it, because people are a ho, if you're not working, and you've got to pay for

[2:36:46] baby rights and campers and leggings or whatever.

[2:36:49] And if you just didn't smoke, we would give those to you for a year, they had 7% of the

[2:36:53] participants stop smoking.

[2:36:56] Now, we haven't figured out how to emulate that here, but we're looking at it for a buff

[2:37:00] year, because we can't just say, don't do it, you've got to get people losing to do something

[2:37:07] else.

[2:37:07] And in that case, it was not smoking gave me my baby peppers for the year, and why this

[2:37:13] did that.

[2:37:14] And for that, if you may, and as a result, see the opportunity, if Macau were to wait

[2:37:19] to go down for some of those urban poor women who participated in the program.

[2:37:24] Mr. Chairman, just on the strong baby care pain, I had asked the health department to provide

[2:37:30] me with the animated version of the healthy baby care pain, and I was fortunate enough

[2:37:36] to do a presentation of Milwaukee with a winch aid foundation out in Henry College in Georgia.

[2:37:42] Winch aid foundation is the philanthropic arm of Chick-fil-Aid, and discussing trying to get a Chick-fil-Aid

[2:37:49] although they're in a commercial recenaire, trying to get them to locate a metafagmist

[2:37:54] chairman in a district in which you represent on South 27th street and on a north side, but

[2:38:00] One of the most positive aspects we've got that I got from that presentation was they were very

[2:38:07] impressed about what we're doing here in Milwaukee with the strong babies campaign.

[2:38:12] I mean, not only is it fun, but as you dig deeper down inside of it, a lot of those who

[2:38:19] are throughout the country understand the importance of just exactly what your marketing team

[2:38:25] put together.

[2:38:25] So I wanted to give the help to pop me, Kudos and I can't pay and you may not know it.

[2:38:30] But those of us who use your material and promote the city of Milwaukee, it really gives

[2:38:37] a snapshot of the things that we're doing well.

[2:38:40] So Kudos to the help to pop and thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[2:38:43] If you have a question about questions or comments, back in the other numbers, there's a website

[2:38:49] I assume that I've parted the health department website where people can find out about problems in this area.

[2:38:56] Yes, about income or tot, absolutely.

[2:38:59] And do you staff is available to speak at neighborhood meetings to give people a view of what these problems are?

[2:39:08] Yes.

[2:39:08] Yes, absolutely.

[2:39:10] And we encourage that because this is the community dialogue that's really going to help save these babies.

[2:39:15] because we can't be able, but our message should be everywhere.

[2:39:24] Thank you. I appreciate the presentation. It's good to hear that we're heading

[2:39:28] in a right direction. There is a lot of work to do. I can't go further work done

[2:39:33] to date and with that, all of the endeavors would move to all this communication

[2:39:41] file at the call of the chair.

[2:39:44] Thank you for the further reporting back.

[2:39:51] Next file is item number nine.

[2:39:55] File number one one one five four six

[2:39:57] Communication from the police department.

[2:40:00] To the annual report on a collection of racial information at police traffic staffs.

[2:40:08] And I know there are all in the hallway and we'll take a second to go here

[2:40:28] for an interview.

[2:40:42] I'm joined by Inspector Edith Hudson, who is the deputy commander of the Labour head patrol bureau,

[2:40:47] which encompasses all of our uniform units, deploy in the community to implement our strategy.

[2:40:54] and the James Hope of the Commander of the General's Trobureaux is here now.

[2:41:01] So, please to be here and make this presentation.

[2:41:06] Everybody else.

[2:41:07] Good evening.

[2:41:09] Good evening.

[2:41:09] Okay.

[2:41:11] As you will recall, I believe it was last fall.

[2:41:13] We made a similar presentation to you, based on approximately six months of data.

[2:41:19] We made the same presentation to the Fire and Police Commission,

[2:41:21] and we made a similar presentation to the community at large,

[2:41:24] explaining our data. I'd like to briefly go through a history lesson for some context for what's going on here.

[2:41:33] I've personally been involved in this issue for more than 10 years. As a matter of fact, one reason I was

[2:41:39] getting to the Pentagon on September 11 was that I've been in attending a meeting with the New Jersey State Police

[2:41:45] and a number of other law enforcement issues agencies talking about this very important issue.

[2:41:50] And what we needed to do to retain public confidence is we attempted to develop tactics that

[2:41:55] wouldn't be useful in surprising crime and protecting people.

[2:41:59] As a matter of fact, not long after that, with the International City Madagers Association

[2:42:06] published its textbook local government police administration, they had a section on this

[2:42:12] issue and in it published verbatim, the Arlington County Mission Statement regarding racial

[2:42:19] We had developed ourselves, it became a national model, was later adopted by the Chicago Police Department, but the point was once again.

[2:42:27] It's tried to place and context police tactics against a backdrop of community need.

[2:42:32] It's important to know what a lot.

[2:42:34] When this issue first arose, it arose on the nation's highways.

[2:42:38] This part of something called Operation Pipeline, where state patrols were using profiles of potential drug dealers that have been developed by the Justice Department.

[2:42:49] they were stopping cars based on their appearance and based on who was driving and they were trying to recover drugs from those vehicles.

[2:42:57] That ultimately resulted in some subsequent studies that indicated those profiles were effective

[2:43:01] and the notion of hit rates was used to determine whether or not in fact this use of racial and ethnic information

[2:43:10] as part of the reason to stop a car was justified by the data and later studies would prove that it was not.

[2:43:17] Now, while this was all going on, urban police departments across the country were embracing

[2:43:22] norms of community-based policing, which required us to listen to neighborhoods, ascertain

[2:43:27] their needs and respond effectively.

[2:43:30] This revolution in police strategies based on community engagement was also accompanied by

[2:43:35] an accountability revolution known as Combstat, and that was a program in which police

[2:43:41] used data as rapidly as developed as possible to guide their deployments, specifically for

[2:43:48] the purposes of intervening rapidly, identifying crime trends and reducing those crime

[2:43:53] trends before they became significant.

[2:43:56] Now, I think as we move forward, we saw an interesting mix and natural issues.

[2:44:01] There was the issue of racial profiling on nation's highways and which had been proved that

[2:44:06] official, descriptors were being used to justify a car stop, and then many issues that were

[2:44:15] occurring in early police departments in which we were responding to the data and quite

[2:44:20] frankly, community demands to do something about their neighborhoods.

[2:44:24] It's quite frankly, in places like Milwaukee, I'm a Chicago or New York City, victimization

[2:44:29] rates and minority communities are reprehensible and the most shameful disparity of all

[2:44:34] of the large numbers of people. It's specific neighborhoods that are victimized by high rates of

[2:44:38] violent crime. So, having said that, what we've done here in Milwaukee is work very carefully

[2:44:46] to develop a strategy based on research. Research has consistently shown that when general

[2:44:51] patrol units aggressively enforce traffic laws that have a direct impact on street crime, simply

[2:44:57] enforcement of traffic laws. Now, what we do.

[2:45:00] Done here in Milwaukee is recognized the fact that we want to use car stops based on violations of traffic

[2:45:07] laws for the purpose of reducing crime. The purpose of seizing drugs, and not even for the purposes

[2:45:12] of generating citations. We specifically directed our officers in the document that announced

[2:45:18] this program that they were to give warnings to motorists whenever they could, and we will

[2:45:23] able to show you a day will soon that will indicate that over 70% of the time, motorists stop

[2:45:30] by us for traffic violations or giving warnings.

[2:45:33] We recognize where the stops are, we're not trying to impose a poor people with acts on

[2:45:38] people who live in a poor neighborhood that has lots of crime, but we are necessarily being active,

[2:45:43] visible, available, and assertive in neighborhoods that are most afflicted by crimes

[2:45:47] of violence, and that can be measured by victimization rates that will also share.

[2:45:51] We will also demonstrate to you that a time during which car stop and subject stop activity

[2:45:58] has increased more than fivefold in real numbers, our citizen complaints continue to decline.

[2:46:04] And I think that's a demonstration of the fact that there is community support for our activity.

[2:46:09] As long as we explain what we're doing, as long as we're respectful, and as long as we use our discretion intelligently

[2:46:15] to not just blindly write hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of citations.

[2:46:19] But recognize that the purpose of this intervention is crime reduction that we're having

[2:46:23] in enhancement.

[2:46:25] So, I'd like to say that, I'd like to say we don't be here anymore.

[2:46:30] All right.

[2:46:30] Oh, by the way.

[2:46:31] Oh, can you understand that you may, which I think is highly relevant to this question, is the

[2:46:37] relationship between traffic stops and crime prevention.

[2:46:41] Could you envision that a little bit, be the theoretical and empirical argument that

[2:46:46] traffic stops, do we relate to crime and disorder in the United States?

[2:46:50] Yeah, all to that.

[2:46:51] Sure.

[2:46:52] It's all around.

[2:46:53] I'm going to ask you to hold that question, because I believe you do answer in your slides.

[2:46:58] If you want to.

[2:46:59] I'm talking about it here.

[2:47:00] You have a goal.

[2:47:01] Yeah.

[2:47:01] This is based on a theory that actually there's some research done in the,

[2:47:04] I can't recall exactly, late 70s or early 80s.

[2:47:07] James Q. Wilson recently passed away.

[2:47:09] He was one of the co-authors.

[2:47:10] Bob Bowling was an author.

[2:47:12] And yeah, let's face it.

[2:47:13] And we do social science research on active phenomena like this, sometimes you're going with

[2:47:18] correlations, you can't prove the causation, or you can replicate it as the correlation

[2:47:22] over and over again, and they did a number of studies.

[2:47:25] And they recognize that many cities, special units, due traffic enforcement, and everybody

[2:47:29] else is running around chasing hitches.

[2:47:31] So what they controlled for always departments that said, oh, everybody is going to get

[2:47:35] in this game.

[2:47:36] Everybody's going to stop people for traffic violations, whatever they are, and God knows

[2:47:40] there are plenty of them.

[2:47:41] The challenge was to find out that that act alone, the mere act that is erupting the

[2:47:46] environment.

[2:47:47] We have an impact on things like robbery and car theft because those are two

[2:47:50] crimes specifically to use the street intensively.

[2:47:53] Then they found that every city were located to study the same thing happened.

[2:47:56] When the rest of patrol got busy stopping people for tail lights and rolling through

[2:48:01] stop signs and loud mufflers and whatever, didn't even matter if they were the citations,

[2:48:06] it mattered that they intervened and what they theorized was, since large numbers of

[2:48:10] Now, we're getting out of their cars and being active in public spaces rather than driving around

[2:48:16] that people noticed, including the subset of the community who wanted to commit crimes,

[2:48:21] and adjusted their behaviors.

[2:48:23] And if the police did that intentionally enough, and the highest crime neighborhoods,

[2:48:26] that would have a statistical effect.

[2:48:29] All they could do is replicate a correlation.

[2:48:31] Now, that was done at a time before we had the computer generated data capabilities we have now.

[2:48:36] So my sense was coming here if we married our ability to analyze data in terms of where and when activity was occurring and then coupled that with targeted enforcement

[2:48:45] But the piece that I wanted to throw in is tell the cops not to write tickets unless there are license on register or really really bad because the goal here is

[2:48:55] A lot of pretext stop using traffic violation an intervention with a member of a community that's got a high crime rate

[2:49:02] And if it's nothing too, it's just, hi, how are you?

[2:49:04] Have a nice day, get you to our life, flexed.

[2:49:05] And you know, it turns a negative encounter

[2:49:07] in your positive one.

[2:49:08] And people in neighborhoods in our pirates of crime,

[2:49:10] know where they live, and they want us to do something.

[2:49:13] And so, you know, to doing this something,

[2:49:16] frequently leads to something else.

[2:49:17] It leads to a kind of rest.

[2:49:18] It leads to a war in the rest.

[2:49:20] But it also disrupts the environment of the impunity,

[2:49:23] with some of our crime groups are trying to operate.

[2:49:25] Whether they see red lights, what's going on,

[2:49:28] either move over here, or when they move over here,

[2:49:30] or for breast fewer targets, so that's the goal and that's the rationale we go to on.

[2:49:35] Mr. Chair?

[2:49:39] Before we go to the slide, I do think it's important to just mention that, you know, in part,

[2:49:47] this communication files stems from the fact that last year, the set of Wisconsin, we peer

[2:49:52] of the requirement for the keeping track of the traffic on data and through a resolution

[2:49:58] It's possible by myself, out of me.

[2:50:00] Wait an Ottoman Corvette, and the dedication and commitment of Chief Plain ahead staff to keep this information in data anyway.

[2:50:07] We saw that Milwaukee being the largest and most diverse city in the state of Wisconsin, but even though the state may no longer require it,

[2:50:16] that it was important for us as a city to keep track and to have it reported back to the public and to us so that we can ensure that racial profiling isn't happening in the city of Milwaukee.

[2:50:29] But again, that's in the face of the state repealing it and with Chief and his staff's

[2:50:35] willingness to keep the information anyway.

[2:50:38] Thank you.

[2:50:39] Thank you for the background.

[2:50:41] Appreciate it.

[2:50:41] Thank you for that clarification.

[2:50:43] It is important.

[2:50:44] You know, we're doing this because we believe we should be transparent.

[2:50:46] We believe that that very same community that's a click about how it's a crime.

[2:50:49] Should know what we're doing in the impact it's having.

[2:50:52] So nobody's going to play out the ball here.

[2:50:54] We're going to share with you what we have.

[2:50:56] Oh, we're good. Thank you.

[2:50:58] Chief, I just want to follow up on one of your comments that it related to,

[2:51:02] a little of the comment, or you indicated that you track warnings in the department

[2:51:05] and that about 70 percent of the time, where potentially any citation could be

[2:51:11] issues that there are warnings that are provided.

[2:51:16] The officers that may pull over an individual who has had a previous warning

[2:51:20] for similar such potential violations for example, speeding.

[2:51:23] They usually have access to that information there where they could determine that potentially

[2:51:29] if they pulled me over, but I got wanting two weeks ago for what otherwise would have been

[2:51:34] a speeding ticket and now in the second subsequent offense we may not be so kind and may

[2:51:39] assure me the citation doesn't really exist access to.

[2:51:43] No, we don't have a central data point for people who got, you know, verbal warnings or what

[2:51:46] not.

[2:51:47] I mean, if an officer encounters somebody that he told to get some of you fixed a month ago and

[2:51:50] still not fixed, they may operate out of our own knowledge.

[2:51:54] But again, the goal of this thing isn't primarily the traffic

[2:51:57] enforcement itself.

[2:52:00] I mean, you know, if we were on highway patrol unit,

[2:52:02] we would probably have a separate database, so we know if we

[2:52:04] need to have somebody for speeding again twice in a week.

[2:52:07] Again, our main goal here is to affect the behavior of folks

[2:52:12] who want to commit crimes.

[2:52:13] And we rely on intelligence and discretion.

[2:52:16] And so, as I say, since the same officers

[2:52:18] of the same neighborhoods, you know, they stumble over the same person three or four times

[2:52:23] to the same offense and they'll actually get a citation.

[2:52:26] Thank you.

[2:52:28] Okay.

[2:52:28] Thank you, Chief.

[2:52:29] If you're on the presentation.

[2:52:32] I think I'm going to have copies of this, so we'll try to move smartly, but one of flip-on,

[2:52:36] let's go.

[2:52:37] The first slide is the uniform crime statistics for last several years and, you know, our goal

[2:52:44] is to demonstrate progress.

[2:52:45] And I think the progress being aggregate numbers from 07 through all 11 is statistically significant.

[2:52:54] Obviously the progress from 10 to 11 is less than it was the progress from 9 to 11,

[2:53:00] but we do see some significant improvements in decreases in violent crime

[2:53:04] and decreases in property crime of over 20% in both cases.

[2:53:08] That's a pretty significant number.

[2:53:10] And when we look at numbers, we always try to look at two key numbers to guide us, and that's

[2:53:14] homicide and caught that, because people don't hide bodies, and people who's crazy

[2:53:20] have been stolen, have insurance policies for theft, those two numbers tend to be your

[2:53:24] most reliable.

[2:53:25] And those numbers are moving in their way direction.

[2:53:27] You're pretty comfortable with your other numbers as well.

[2:53:30] Next slide.

[2:53:34] We also wanted to provide you with the breakdown of what percentage of the city's crime

[2:53:38] takes place in each of our seven districts.

[2:53:41] And you'll see that in districts three, five, and seven,

[2:53:46] just three of our districts, two thirds of our crime

[2:53:48] takes place.

[2:53:49] So the disparity in crime victimization

[2:53:52] is significant, most obviously in those three districts.

[2:54:01] We also just, this is a new slide.

[2:54:04] We didn't have this slide when we reported back in the form,

[2:54:06] But this is a crime and they can buildings.

[2:54:10] You will recollect that several weeks ago, I asked that we try to identify some of the

[2:54:16] state foreclosure settlement money directly for the purposes of making buildings.

[2:54:22] There are a couple of reasons for this.

[2:54:24] First of all, a consistently vacant building is a real, not just an isor, but it's a drag

[2:54:28] on the neighbor that's recovery crimes take place in there.

[2:54:32] They can buildings are a driver of our boundary rate right now, because people are breaking

[2:54:35] that it's stealing metal and selling it to scrapers.

[2:54:40] The other issue, of course, is other crimes can occur as well, so as you can see.

[2:54:44] We have several ellipses that are going to appear on every single map,

[2:54:50] and what we try to do is show you where the crime is most heavily concentrated.

[2:54:54] And what you're going to see right there is our vacant building circle

[2:54:57] is right inside our other circle.

[2:55:00] As well. And we have about 500 burglaries, 100 fires, 24 robberies, 14 aggravated assaults in vacant buildings in 2011.

[2:55:08] So again, if I'm money for tear downs, it could be a real significant investment in crime control, believe it or not, as well as community safety and confidence.

[2:55:17] So, since you have a couple of slides back, there was a figure for us, and which went up slightly bigger into the last slide.

[2:55:25] Yeah, we try to, you know, that's a low-based number.

[2:55:29] And sometimes it goes up and goes down, because we're getting better at identifying our students.

[2:55:33] We work collaboratively with a fire department.

[2:55:35] Fire department does a good job at identifying cause and origin.

[2:55:38] And it's not always obvious. There's a lot of undetermined for example, but there's always some fluctuation,

[2:55:44] but we don't have a pattern that indicates that something specific is going on.

[2:55:53] Okay, next slide.

[2:55:55] Again, we want to make sure that everybody understands what we're trying to do and why we're trying

[2:56:01] to do it there.

[2:56:03] So what you have in those several ellipses is our total population, our population below

[2:56:07] the poverty line, our minority populations, and the ellipses is caused for service, violent

[2:56:13] trying traffic stops and subject stops.

[2:56:17] So everyone has a website that identifies, you know,

[2:56:21] where police are being clued by the citizens the most.

[2:56:26] There's another website that identifies where our violent crime

[2:56:28] is concentrated.

[2:56:30] The red one is where our traffic stops are concentrated.

[2:56:33] And the blue one is where our subject stops are concentrated.

[2:56:37] And what we're trying to demonstrate

[2:56:39] is that we're very, very specifically focusing

[2:56:41] resources on need, and we identify community demands as close for service, and we identify

[2:56:48] our crime data as helping us describe the nature of the problem in our application of

[2:56:53] a police intervention, which is subject and cost-offs, should track with close for service

[2:56:58] and identify violent crime, and that's what this map represents.

[2:57:03] Next slide.

[2:57:07] We also want to demonstrate to you the amount of change in our proactive activity in the community

[2:57:15] and track at the same time complaints from citizens about our use of our authority and force.

[2:57:22] As you can see in 2007 there were 543 external complaints and approximately 53,000 vehicle stops.

[2:57:30] In 2010, there were 192,000 car stops, but 379 external complaints and in 2011,

[2:57:40] were 189,000 car stops, and 300 external citizen complaints.

[2:57:46] We are extrapolating from those numbers and in throwing that people by and large understand

[2:57:52] what we're about and that these interventions are being perceived by the community generally

[2:57:57] in a positive way.

[2:57:59] Next slide, we break down the stops by a laser driver in each of our districts, and that number is self-explanatory.

[2:58:11] And as you can see, districts three, four, five, and seven have the highest number of African Americans stopped district two.

[2:58:18] That's the highest number of Hispanic stopped district one as the highest number of white people stopped. So it's a district six. Next slide.

[2:58:26] We

[2:58:30] developed this data point, and we're one of the first police departments I know to do this.

[2:58:35] The racial data for car stops gets analyzed as they'll each individual car stop was a different person being stopped.

[2:58:43] But we've been working on is providing our officers, means, faces, descriptions of known gang members, known violators, known offenders.

[2:58:51] And since our officers are assigned to the same neighborhoods all the time, they are trying to focus their attention on those people who are known to be public offenders, and bad guys break traffic laws, you know, just break felony laws.

[2:59:05] We find, often we would hear community people complaining back in the day, you know, we know who the drug dealers and robbers are, how come you guys don't, how come you're stopping me or actually stopping the known robbers? Well, we're trying to get better at that.

[2:59:17] And so what we've done is we've gone back and looked at who has gotten stopped the most.

[2:59:23] And what we found is there's 110 people who've been stopped a large number of times.

[2:59:30] I mean, you don't have here.

[2:59:31] It's on board.

[2:59:33] It's on board.

[2:59:34] Okay.

[2:59:35] We've a 110 people who are managed to generate 27 100 traffic violations in the 1,000 separate traffic stops.

[2:59:41] Now that's not a 1,000 different people they got stopped.

[2:59:44] It's 100 people that got stopped about 10 times a year, because we're paying attention to them.

[2:59:50] We know who they are, we know who they are, and we know who they are, and we know who they see us,

[2:59:56] that we know who these guys are, and we're stopping them.

[2:59:58] And so we've had a number of situations.

[3:00:00] Questions in which data can theoretically be skewed, but I believe skewed appropriately by

[3:00:06] Oslo using criminal intelligence in local street knowledge to identify the appropriate people to stop.

[3:00:11] And once again, you can see if we had the prolific offender ellipse inside the other ellipses,

[3:00:17] again, it tracks very highly, very closely, with our crime and victimization data.

[3:00:23] Mr. John, I don't understand very quickly, I mean,

[3:00:27] can you break this down by our medical districts with a mapping system?

[3:00:31] I'm interested in the district, which I represent.

[3:00:35] Sure.

[3:00:35] Well, if you can just send that tomorrow for some time.

[3:00:38] I mean, you district encompasses most of one police district,

[3:00:42] but I know I believe in what a lot is, right?

[3:00:44] I've got two four and seven.

[3:00:45] All right,

[3:00:49] all right.

[3:00:49] All right, next time.

[3:00:51] These are the traffic stop dispositions by district.

[3:00:54] You can see if you want to get stopped at the district floor.

[3:01:02] So the message is clearly gotten through here.

[3:01:05] Neighborhood task force, which has got a lot of motor officers who's job

[3:01:09] but was to do heavy duty traffic enforcement, still do a bit more than

[3:01:13] everybody else does.

[3:01:13] But still, two thirds of their stops result in the people being ruined.

[3:01:17] Overall, see why it's 70% running, 30% citations,

[3:01:23] with some variation from district to district.

[3:01:27] Next.

[3:01:29] Last chair.

[3:01:30] On the bottom.

[3:01:32] What review has done by anybody to verify the probable cause determination in the first instance

[3:01:39] to the stop of the act?

[3:01:41] Because probably that does part of the argument that out here is that these are, well,

[3:01:47] you can kind of use the word pretext.

[3:01:48] There's no law for pretext on our law.

[3:01:51] There's no law for pretext.

[3:01:52] There's no law for pretext.

[3:01:53] That is the pretext.

[3:01:55] And the fact that there is, you know, in District 4,

[3:01:58] any one could make the argument that the fact that there's 83%

[3:02:01] running, I sure also classated, the black is not just

[3:02:05] citations as also arrests, sorry, in a little bit.

[3:02:08] But, you know, after the vast majority of staff resulted

[3:02:10] in a warning, might suggest to some that maybe the original

[3:02:15] probable cause might be a little weak,

[3:02:17] and so there was no point issuing a citation.

[3:02:19] I mean, the one could make that argument, I'm not saying

[3:02:21] as accurate as any actual basis to support.

[3:02:23] But that amount of disparity,

[3:02:27] how would you, well, as I said, when we issued a general order

[3:02:31] that established this aspect of our strategy, we specifically articulated a notion that we

[3:02:37] weren't trying to raise revenue or generate citation data.

[3:02:41] And it took a while.

[3:02:43] Initially, we had some folks who had their stop at a guy in the right and 15 tickets.

[3:02:46] And we've now got assisted in place that if you give one person more than five tickets

[3:02:50] and a stop, we need to know what's going on here.

[3:02:53] Because we're not looking at the pile on people.

[3:02:55] I mean, if I give a motor or a tent ticket, it's okay,

[3:02:57] we're fine, we know we're going to get into the tickets

[3:02:58] no matter what happens with the homicide.

[3:03:01] But the average person, if they've committed a violation,

[3:03:04] don't pile on, guys, and gals just giving them a violation.

[3:03:07] We're not trying to lose community support at the same time

[3:03:10] we're trying to reduce crime in those neighborhoods.

[3:03:12] We do also ask our officers to go off on the air

[3:03:16] with the reason for the stop.

[3:03:18] So everybody that does a car stop

[3:03:19] It's supposed to articulate on the radio.

[3:03:22] I'm stopping this graph for a red violation.

[3:03:24] I'm stopping this graph for a TLA.

[3:03:25] I'm stopping this graph for a TLA.

[3:03:26] I'm stopping this graph for a speed.

[3:03:27] Am I missing anything?

[3:03:28] No, same thing.

[3:03:29] There you go.

[3:03:29] No.

[3:03:29] So that's the notion.

[3:03:30] And again, what we're trying to control for, again, another correlation.

[3:03:34] I don't have PhDs on staff, if we're increasing the number of stops, it's isn't

[3:03:40] required.

[3:03:41] The complaints are still growing down.

[3:03:43] I mean, throwing.

[3:03:44] I can't come and clue, but I mean, throwing, that people feel they're being treated

[3:03:48] Fairly is supposed to be harassed.

[3:03:50] But that's not at all.

[3:03:51] This assumes a very solid complaints system that people actually trusted.

[3:03:56] Well, I mean, that does does to danger.

[3:03:58] But there's more play I agree.

[3:04:00] You're correct.

[3:04:01] But there's more places to make it complete now than I ever before.

[3:04:04] I mean, there's good.

[3:04:04] I mean, you come to the commission.

[3:04:06] You have to come to us.

[3:04:07] You can go to the newspaper.

[3:04:08] You can go to your order.

[3:04:09] You can come to the station house.

[3:04:11] You can go to the fine police commission.

[3:04:13] So, I mean, as it's really an appropriate observation,

[3:04:15] but I would just also offer it.

[3:04:17] There's a lot of varieties of ways to access this now.

[3:04:22] I'm going to find them, I'm going to put them in front too.

[3:04:25] Yeah, I'm going to the way to address for all of them,

[3:04:28] Baltimore, and it's trying to get to, is you have cameras in

[3:04:30] college too.

[3:04:31] That's true.

[3:04:32] And so if anybody wants to check if they have PC to stop a vehicle,

[3:04:38] you can check the car.

[3:04:39] Also, there's audio, and when they go up and say, whatever.

[3:04:44] Well, that's, you know, the video is more labelled than the auto, you know, but certainly

[3:04:49] the audio, I'm the video, captures whether or not when we said we stopped you because

[3:04:53] your tail light was out, was your tail light. I can see that. You know, if it's, you know,

[3:04:57] but somebody complains he stopped me for no reason.

[3:04:59] Thank you.

[3:05:00] This is when it happened. We pull up the video, and you know, your light is out. He did stop you in. But if there's nothing wrong with the vehicle, we can see that too. So, yeah, there's another point.

[3:05:10] There's some chaos, say, for anyway. Okay. Okay, next.

[3:05:17] Again, that's a, again, for analysis of the increase in subject stops before we did cross stops. This is the Pedestrian stops.

[3:05:26] This has been a period of 28 percent decrease in subject stops.

[3:05:30] Same token has been a 44 percent decrease in external complaints or let's see in period

[3:05:34] of time.

[3:05:36] There has been an increase from last year with this year, and obviously a significant increase

[3:05:40] from O7 to O11.

[3:05:43] Next slide.

[3:05:45] Excuse me.

[3:05:47] The pedestrian stops, these are pedestrian violations that we're in this period of question.

[3:05:54] No, there's this.

[3:05:55] There's this.

[3:05:55] So the question stops, that's why there's a lot fewer of them.

[3:05:57] I mean, you know, it's not as a cause in the road.

[3:06:00] There's a thousand different ways you can buy the traffic law or the equipment law.

[3:06:03] When they're doing subject stops, these are usually specific to neighborhoods and usually

[3:06:08] connected to operations or doing to reduce specific crimes.

[3:06:11] And so they're interventions.

[3:06:13] For some of them, they're just like that.

[3:06:14] Might be high.

[3:06:14] Are you the way what's new, have a nice day.

[3:06:17] For some of them, they're related to, you know, areas searches for suspects.

[3:06:22] Some of them were just asking them to stop people on engagement conversation because there's been an increase in rent type of crime or another.

[3:06:29] So it's, it's not like you're getting a citation or a warning, you're having a conversation, and if a conversation leads to anything fine, it doesn't.

[3:06:40] You know, people go about their business.

[3:06:42] These are largely, these are often generated by our bike cats or our foot cats as well as our, uh, second cars.

[3:06:48] Thank you.

[3:06:51] All right.

[3:06:52] Okay. This is subject stops by race, by district. Once again, as you can see, district

[3:06:59] 1 and 6, the largest percentage of white, the district 2, large percentage of

[3:07:03] rice, panic, ups, no more, district 2 and so on, right as well. And the district's 3, 4, 5, and 7,

[3:07:10] once again, I would like to know that African-American people are stat and talk to I police officers.

[3:07:15] Mr. Anderson, what's missing in this particular slide, though, chief, to make your argument

[3:07:22] is that, in those particular districts, what is the majority, what is the percentage

[3:07:27] of that ethnicity population?

[3:07:29] It doesn't want me to take a look at this particular graph, they would say, revise it over

[3:07:34] around the amount of African Americans getting stopped in these particular districts.

[3:07:40] And if you have a high percentage of population that is in that district that is that that's

[3:07:45] grew more than likely the numbers will occur. So I'm taking a look at this and try and look

[3:07:53] through some of the statistical data in higher percentages, but being from the walking and

[3:07:58] understanding police districts, I know that those particular districts are highly

[3:08:03] ethnic, African-American population. So you may want to consider a true data purposes to draw

[3:08:11] correlation with the statistics.

[3:08:13] Well, we are going to do shortly, I'll show you some slides that

[3:08:18] in trying that we had a suspect description.

[3:08:22] We're going to provide that data by district.

[3:08:24] We're also going to provide victimization data by district where we have

[3:08:27] that information.

[3:08:29] And you know, again, keep in mind, these are subject stops

[3:08:31] and the cross stops aren't even a phone across the 24 hour day.

[3:08:36] You know, we're going to do a lot more subject stops.

[3:08:38] 10 o'clock at night and I came to do it and we are going to do it and we are going to say 2 o'clock

[3:08:41] and we have to know and I will cry and the reason is okay who is out about it this time

[3:08:46] the night in this neighborhood and do what you need. So what's the two question before you go?

[3:08:54] Hello, I'm Chris. To add along to what Audermen Davis was just suggesting. I would also

[3:09:02] suggested and it's because what I see right from this data is a comparison also with Milwaukee's

[3:09:09] driving population and the ethnicity of that. As I look at the numbers, I see exactly what

[3:09:16] Autumn and Davis was saying as well because there are traffic stops. I think having a point

[3:09:21] of reference for how percentage based upon ethnicity that have licensed drivers within the

[3:09:32] Now, I also recommend that some people don't have a license when they drive them too, but I think that would help in analyzing this data as well.

[3:09:41] I'll make this point again and I'll just say we'll go through the data we do have.

[3:09:46] There's a cottage industry out there trying to identify the appropriate denominator for analyzing car Scott data.

[3:09:51] And I've seen more different denominators use than you can imagine.

[3:09:55] But again, I offer the essential point, virtually all of the work that was done.

[3:10:00] Developing not denominators was developed for highway patrols, trying to estimate who is on the highway.

[3:10:06] When you were in a central city neighborhood, played by high rates of crime, and you put city camps in there for the purpose of stopping cars, not to try to find drugs, but to stop cars in the high crime neighborhood, to disrupt the environment.

[3:10:21] That's a different denominator than the famous estimated driving population, which was a construct.

[3:10:27] It was an estimate, so try to figure out, for example, who's going to be on the New Jersey

[3:10:31] tram bike if we move funds where it can can do?

[3:10:33] All right?

[3:10:34] You couldn't prove it, because the census population was moving through, so they developed these

[3:10:38] estimates, and that's how state troopers got held accountable for disparities.

[3:10:43] There's not an urban police chief that will say that's the way to try to understand what

[3:10:46] we're doing in an urban neighborhood in which we've got the data points to show.

[3:10:51] Wow, there's a lot of British robberies and carpets here, we got to put the cops on the

[3:10:55] dots.

[3:10:55] That's just an entirely different construct than saying we want to see if we can catch drug dealers on the highway

[3:11:01] Let's stop a bunch of people and cause all of them five years who appear to be Latino or African-American and our dress casually

[3:11:09] That's a totally different

[3:11:12] denominator

[3:11:14] If we went with it that new rate is totally different new rate of denominator issue

[3:11:17] And so that's why we spent time rather looking at victim population and subject descriptions because we're not

[3:11:24] not trolling for drugs here. This is a different thing. Let's go to the next slide. It might

[3:11:28] be helpful. Now, this is city-wide, which again will be somewhat skewed. We'll go to the

[3:11:34] district by district for you as well. But these are the city-wide and what we have listed for you

[3:11:43] is three columns for each crime. In each crime, you're going to have the percentage of suspects

[3:11:48] So arrested for that crime, they described suspect numbers.

[3:11:54] There's always going to be a gap there because a lot of crimes we don't have.

[3:11:58] They describe suspect law on the site.

[3:12:00] They need to show there is no description of a suspect.

[3:12:02] Percolese is almost no description of a suspect.

[3:12:05] Carve that there's seldom a described suspect.

[3:12:07] We put that in there and the third part is the race of the victim.

[3:12:13] So if we're going to get by statewide excuse me,

[3:12:17] You can certainly see clearly where the disparity in crime victimization fails.

[3:12:23] It overwhelmingly fails.

[3:12:25] In some of the neighborhoods we described in the overwhelmingly afflicts African Americans who live in those neighborhoods.

[3:12:31] And that obviously is going to drive our deployments because we try to, as we try to reduce the amount of crime in those neighborhoods.

[3:12:45] So I think you'll have that right, so you have this, okay, so we'll put it in the next one.

[3:12:50] Mr. Chair?

[3:12:52] So if you look at the model vehicle theft, the binary and the homicide,

[3:12:56] if you look at the suspect description and does it rest it,

[3:12:59] and if you look at all the columns of race for most of Rome except

[3:13:03] on now, it's pretty much within a couple of percentage points.

[3:13:06] is a reason why for a black's on this chart there is such a large discrepancy in the percentage

[3:13:14] of suspect description versus the percentage that were arrested for. The moderators go back

[3:13:19] to the board and we're in the homestone.

[3:13:20] Sure. If you look at the 30 carefully, you see the three quarters of the time we don't know

[3:13:26] with the suspect look like at the time of the crime. So 23% if you look at this differently,

[3:13:34] If we only know the description, 25% of the time realistically, that 20% is 90%, all right?

[3:13:42] So originally, we just did this based on the total crime rating for those particular crimes,

[3:13:46] but we encarced up at the time of the crime, we often don't know who stole the car.

[3:13:50] We know who we arrest for where we are on, we stop a car, it's stolen, it's full of five guys from the neighborhood.

[3:13:57] Okay, so that's five arrests, the time the car was stolen, we didn't know there was no description.

[3:14:01] So, I mean, that's how it works for both of us as well.

[3:14:05] Thank you.

[3:14:07] We have a good question.

[3:14:08] Thanks for getting the chance to clarify that.

[3:14:10] All right.

[3:14:10] So, if we go this way, by district, then we move to all too much.

[3:14:14] But just we'll get a sense again.

[3:14:16] You should drop the date in front of you.

[3:14:18] Once again, district 1.

[3:14:20] This is the, we've got wrong numbers elsewhere.

[3:14:23] But this is the percentage breakdown.

[3:14:25] Again, those arrested, those described, and those victimized for the, for the five

[3:14:31] times this set above, trying to put it on one place so you get a sense again, but what

[3:14:36] it looks like in District 1, in District 2. You see, again, a change in some numbers, driven

[3:14:43] largely by the population of District 2,

[3:14:50] and with District 3, we're going to begin to see

[3:14:53] a different disparity again.

[3:14:58] Kind of going to all the mid-day, this is just, this is just

[3:15:00] It doesn't like a sense of state, but it gives you a sense of who lives there based on a percentage of crime victims.

[3:15:08] District 4,

[3:15:20] District 5,

[3:15:30] District 6,

[3:15:41] and District 7.

[3:15:52] We have one last slide that kind of sums up.

[3:16:10] The general point we're trying to make is that you know, controlling four things that are within the knowledge of the police department, which is who are victims, who is arrested, whether they occur and where are we trying to concentrate our

[3:16:25] car and pedestrian stops, you go in back to the, let's see, first, second, third.

[3:16:35] If you go back to the fourth slide with the three density maps,

[3:16:42] here we go.

[3:16:44] We're trying to make the point that where we are going is where we are needed.

[3:16:50] The neighborhoods that are afflicted by high rates of crime, no they are.

[3:16:54] have been largely supported of our efforts as measured by citizen complaint data and that our

[3:17:00] efforts track briefly with trying to take a decision data.

[3:17:06] Now, we're going to continue to get this data and continue to make reports, and certainly keep

[3:17:11] ourselves available for our questions and concerns.

[3:17:16] Thank you, Chief, for coming to questions by committee members or all of them impacts.

[3:17:22] Mr. Chair?

[3:17:22] All of them impacts?

[3:17:25] What percentage of the traffic stops result in searches and do you have that data

[3:17:30] button down into ethnic groups?

[3:17:33] We don't keep that data because there's never been a goal of the program, you know, again,

[3:17:38] if this is a drug introduction policy in my hit rate with matter, that's not the goal.

[3:17:42] I mean, I've made it clear to officers all along.

[3:17:45] If I can get to a place in Milwaukee where drug dealing is unabtrusive and non-violent, I'll

[3:17:50] consider that a win.

[3:17:51] All right, I'm not fooling myself that if we see X number of drugs, we're going to enjoy the

[3:17:57] like we need high quality investigations to reduce drugs, but my biggest concern about drugs

[3:18:01] is that they impact on violence.

[3:18:04] So, you know, the work that the troops isn't going to go out there to figure our way to get into the

[3:18:07] trunk so you can keep your drugs.

[3:18:09] The word out there is that it's a shopping environment.

[3:18:11] Keep an eye out for our chronic bad guys and see if we can lower the violence.

[3:18:17] Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[3:18:18] Well, we're going to help all the women who

[3:18:21] cogs question, maybe you can elaborate on what

[3:18:24] it takes to do a pat down.

[3:18:26] And you work a sort of a pat down or the search of the vehicle?

[3:18:30] No.

[3:18:30] OK.

[3:18:31] What does it take to do a pat down and what does it do to do a search

[3:18:36] of the vehicle within, as I know, the lung area?

[3:18:39] So maybe that would help her question.

[3:18:42] You're always guided by some level of reasonable suspicion.

[3:18:45] You should be something objective about the intervention

[3:18:47] you have a concern that somebody might be armed or acting in a way consistent with somebody who's an armed defender.

[3:18:54] Perhaps there are no defender that you've known in the past has been carrying a weapon or as access to one.

[3:18:58] You know when we stop a quarrel right now, I mean somebody is running the plate the moment you stop it.

[3:19:03] And you give a need to somebody they start running the person for wants and wants and wants.

[3:19:07] It may not be an act of war not, but they may be a known defender that you didn't know they were a defender.

[3:19:11] And maybe they're the only way that looks like they're trying to conceal something.

[3:19:14] So, certainly patting down somebody from your safety or looking at the reach area depends upon the reason of a list of your suspicion in which if you end up making an arrest,

[3:19:23] you're going to have to be able to justify an endocrine examination.

[3:19:27] Yeah, I think there's this perception that people don't get searched unless they get arrested, and that's why I'm trying to point out here that that's not the fact.

[3:19:36] In fact, it's the safety and well-being of the officer, if you feel that he or she is in danger,

[3:19:43] or their safety is compromised, depending on the individual who is stopped is acting.

[3:19:49] They have their hands in their pockets.

[3:19:51] They have their own drug dealer.

[3:19:53] Maybe some prior history with that individual could cause that individual to do a pat down.

[3:19:59] I didn't mean to ask you to do it.

[3:20:00] All right, thank you. Mr. Chair, how are the doors? Let me just say those statistics kind of bear what I consider a good initiative here in the city in Milwaukee.

[3:20:14] I'll tell you the reason why I'm a preference of my comments by being cautiously optimistic. The reason why I preference that that way is that the reason why I see this is important is because 10, 15 years ago I'm Milwaukee.

[3:20:29] It was actually a drug taken.

[3:20:31] The bad guys would be able to float through our neighborhoods with kilos in their cars and we would never know exactly what they were being involved in until the neighborhood actually employed.

[3:20:43] And we had, in my opinion, a very high murder rate based upon the 9 addressing of that issue.

[3:20:51] But I see currently right now, which is the success and this is the reason why I preference my comments chief.

[3:20:57] being cautiously optimistic is the returling of the professional performance division.

[3:21:05] And I'll tell you the reason why I think that's important.

[3:21:08] The culture used to be, you do something, you get away with it, you lie, maybe you get caught, maybe not.

[3:21:16] Cautiously optimistic based upon some of the things that have happened in the department, not only

[3:21:22] within the administration, but also with the MPF, to make sure that at the end of the day the citizens are the ones to be protected and not so much to establish a culture to be put in the Milwaukee Police Department.

[3:21:38] That has helped a medium and with the constituents in which I represent because when the liaison officer, the community liaison officer, comes out and discuss these issues.

[3:21:48] Not only the residents who have kids who are being stopped by the Milwaukee Police Department,

[3:21:53] they feel comfortable, that the interaction with that officer, more than likely,

[3:21:58] will be a positive experience.

[3:22:02] I mean, I don't know how you can actually say that before you.

[3:22:05] I stopped by the Milwaukee Police Department, we need a positive experience.

[3:22:08] But in past, it used to be a little bit more of a confrontational,

[3:22:14] possibly violent type of interaction that our young people,

[3:22:20] specifically African Americans in Latino, may not be able to tell that story.

[3:22:24] I believe that the reason why this has become a success

[3:22:27] and whether the statistics bear that there is ethnic specifics that are being stopped.

[3:22:33] I see that as a deterrent on a young person actually being sent to jail,

[3:22:38] and a deterrent for them not to become involved in bad opportunities

[3:22:41] because they know that in a break of an eye, you can be stopped, in a view, and also given

[3:22:51] an opportunity to get your life together. Because I've seen it, I've been out there and

[3:22:55] traffic stopped where the young officers that are out there now. They understand the importance

[3:22:59] of community policing. So, I'm cautiously optimistic that this deployment strategy will continue

[3:23:07] to be successful because it has a proliferation

[3:23:10] of some of the negative indicators and writing the role.

[3:23:15] And I can see from young and individual standpoint,

[3:23:19] that now starting to talk about this within their own groups,

[3:23:22] the urban underground, the city of Milwaukee,

[3:23:25] youth council, no longer are they talking about police brutality,

[3:23:28] but they're talking about how they can work in a collaborative way

[3:23:31] in order for them to deal with some of the negative indicators

[3:23:34] that they know that they experience.

[3:23:35] I mean, if some of you may not represent areas like that, I do represent areas in the district in which I represent like all the women cocks.

[3:23:45] Now, I represent 91st and Silver Spanagan. Now, I represent the area around 104th and Mill Road.

[3:23:52] Those kids that are out there, if they're not top, the right way in order for them to behave, they're going to make mistakes.

[3:23:58] My purpose is that they just run into the right police officers going to follow the right protocol.

[3:24:04] And so I would be first to go out and live and continue to support this once again,

[3:24:14] stating that I'm cautiously optimistic because of the professional performance situation

[3:24:20] and those who are involved in the professional performance division understand what their purpose is.

[3:24:26] And that is to make sure that we could get officers in the street who understand exactly what

[3:24:32] they're mission is.

[3:24:33] So thank you, Mr. President.

[3:24:34] I mean thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[3:24:36] Mr. Chairman.

[3:24:38] Thank you.

[3:24:38] All right.

[3:24:39] All right.

[3:24:41] Thank you, Chief, for the data that you did present.

[3:24:45] And I think part of the reason that I've asked some of the questions that I've asked

[3:24:51] because of the, you know, you collect the data in a way that helps you to do the prime

[3:24:59] transition.

[3:25:02] I'm sure many of my colleagues go this, the crime prevention, but also the preservation of the rights of the people that we represent.

[3:25:11] And as I hear from those who are pleased with all everything that's going on and with the decrease and all of crime and all that in the neighborhood and with the presence of police and everything, also hear from those who feel like they might have been violated.

[3:25:27] And probably the reason I asked that last question about the searches is because President

[3:25:34] has sent me information and I want, I'm a person who wants to check on facts, which

[3:25:37] is why I actually let about the searches that after the stop, the walking police search

[3:25:43] to vehicles of black drivers twice as often as whites or one search for every 12 stops, but

[3:25:49] police found contraband items in searches and robbing black drivers are almost the same

[3:25:54] as white at about 20% of the time.

[3:25:58] Now, based on this data, I wouldn't know if that's true or not.

[3:26:01] And for me, as we look at,

[3:26:03] not just crime prevention,

[3:26:05] but also the potential for racial profiling,

[3:26:07] or civil rights violations,

[3:26:10] I would want to know about searches.

[3:26:11] Because if it is a disproportionate thing going on

[3:26:16] with the Indian searches,

[3:26:18] and people feel about it,

[3:26:19] because of that, that matters to me as an order person.

[3:26:23] So I get the crime prevention piece and I get autisticistic that you provide it and I appreciate that.

[3:26:29] But as we deal with the racial profile and issue which this initial role was created to help deal with when it in the state passed initially.

[3:26:37] And I think that many of us as auto and also want to present the such piece might be a critical piece to help do this because that might be wrong.

[3:26:46] That might be 100% wrong, but I don't know because that's my in the data with the traffic stop stuff.

[3:26:51] So I don't know if we need to amend that eventually and put that in the resolution, I'm

[3:26:55] just asked for that data as well.

[3:26:57] But I do think that's an important piece as far as on a citizen side, for them telling

[3:27:02] my, it's not a disproportionate,

[3:27:07] and on the search side.

[3:27:10] Thank you.

[3:27:11] Thank you.

[3:27:12] Thank you.

[3:27:13] Thank you.

[3:27:14] Yeah, I do get complaints as well from my constituents about this and one of the things that I make

[3:27:21] I stress to them is the chief under state statute has great discussion in how he deploys his resources.

[3:27:33] And in fact, the council has absolutely no power to tell you to do something different in this arena.

[3:27:40] Now, you may choose to, our origin in suggestion, I understand that, and you're very forthcoming,

[3:27:45] and you always present very good information, and very precise answers, and that's great.

[3:27:49] But you're basically here as a courtesy.

[3:27:52] You really don't have to report to us on any of these issues

[3:27:55] and you certainly don't have to take our direction.

[3:27:58] Now, you do have to take the direction

[3:27:59] of the Fire Police Commission, at least on paper.

[3:28:02] And so I tell my constituents, this is the real entity

[3:28:05] that these complaints should be brought to is the Fire Police

[3:28:09] Commission, because that's the only entity

[3:28:11] that has the legal authority in doing things about it.

[3:28:13] I mean, this is a great TV camera here.

[3:28:16] That's our television, great watching.

[3:28:17] But at least commission meets quietly at night, nobody knows or even meeting, I mean, it's not

[3:28:22] a couple of times.

[3:28:23] And they disagree with that.

[3:28:25] They sell them cameras, they go far.

[3:28:28] And there's a great little public present.

[3:28:30] And they're certainly not on TV.

[3:28:32] And that's the entity they can really do something about this line.

[3:28:35] Courage people.

[3:28:36] And I'm making this comment.

[3:28:37] Most of those watching on television.

[3:28:39] So if you have concerns in this area, you know, let us know where the elected officials

[3:28:44] and that's great.

[3:28:45] We'll do what we can, but what we're going to do is tell you, you have to file a complaint.

[3:28:50] You have to go to the Fire Police Commission.

[3:28:52] You have to request a hearing request to general review by the Fire Police Commission,

[3:28:56] because they at least on paper have the authority to issue directives.

[3:29:01] We have absolutely no power to direct you to do something or to direct you to refrain from doing something.

[3:29:08] That's true, but I can assure you there's an honest comment council,

[3:29:12] that's on my budget. I'll be happy to see it, thank you, Mayor.

[3:29:16] And you've been for it coming. I know I'm just interested in the country, but I mean

[3:29:20] sometimes a lot of the matter in these arenas and in terms of defining it, who actually

[3:29:25] has part, constituent comes in me instead of hearing about a stop sign, that we have authority

[3:29:31] over it. And we can make a decision. Yes or no, on installing a stop sign. We don't have authority

[3:29:36] on yes or no, on continuing this policy of traffic stops or modifying the policy of traffic

[3:29:42] staff, the council has no will, authority in the matter.

[3:29:46] And that's how state statute has created our public safety

[3:29:49] structure in Wisconsin.

[3:29:51] So, be it.

[3:29:51] But that's, it's important to point that out for the public,

[3:29:54] to lay things somehow we can make a difference here.

[3:29:56] And our ability to do so is the government.

[3:29:59] Mr. Chan?

[3:29:59] Yes.

[3:30:00] All the members exactly correct, and that's why I give much credit to Chief Plain and his team, because you know, I've done a lot of these solutions, then all the police matters, and they've always been willing to come before the committee, and to answer the questions that we posted down, although, in fact, as you state, the Foreign Police Commission is still real authority.

[3:30:21] And so the presence and the sharing of the information is truly a choice by the chief and his

[3:30:28] department to do so.

[3:30:30] I do thank them for being willing to do that for the public.

[3:30:32] Mr. Jack, and I know that all of them read is sure to talk about the openness and transparency

[3:30:37] as well as all of them.

[3:30:39] Thanks for the pitch.

[3:30:40] I did miss a good portion of this, but openness and transparency is important.

[3:30:46] In all of those, we don't have that authority to authority lies within the Fire and Police

[3:30:50] Commission.

[3:30:50] And there are some things that we can do as

[3:30:52] Alderman to how the Fire and Police Commission operates

[3:30:58] for instance, a couple years back,

[3:31:01] Citizens couldn't come in and speak

[3:31:03] at the Fire and Police Commission.

[3:31:05] Alderman Davis, Alderman Hines,

[3:31:07] and myself for some resolutions were now

[3:31:09] there's a portion of the Fire and Police Commission

[3:31:13] where citizens can actually come in and speak.

[3:31:15] If we want the Fire and Police Commission

[3:31:17] to be very transparent,

[3:31:18] where it may need me to be on channel 25.

[3:31:21] Maybe we need to have some of their hearings on channel 25.

[3:31:24] And that's something from this body

[3:31:26] that we may be able to direct them to do.

[3:31:28] So those are some of the things that I think

[3:31:30] would enhance some of the transparency

[3:31:33] as far as the community is concerned

[3:31:36] because I know an argument about me was saying it in just

[3:31:40] that they need nobody knows when they need.

[3:31:43] But it would be easy if you could just pick up your remote control

[3:31:46] and to me in the town of 25 and see it on TV.

[3:31:49] And it actually in the long run may be something

[3:31:51] that could end up being helpful to the police department.

[3:31:54] So those are some of the things from this body

[3:31:56] that we may look into in the future

[3:31:58] are trying to add to the process of the fire and police commission.

[3:32:03] Thank you all.

[3:32:04] Any other kind of sort of a quick and the fire and police commission

[3:32:09] in their defense just last week I was invited

[3:32:11] to one of the meetings out there, so we're springed here, so they didn't notify me.

[3:32:18] I don't know whether all the men are all the women to get notified, but I know in the past

[3:32:22] I have, and then what I do is I email all my blockwatch groups to let them know that the

[3:32:28] fire and police commission is meeting. And I've been to these meetings and unfortunately,

[3:32:33] there's not a big turnout. Unfortunately, there's a real reason. And so, under behalf, I would say

[3:32:41] And secondly, in looking at all the stats you presented in, and I know you said, we got in the traffic stop dispositions that if you want to be stopped stopped at district number four.

[3:32:52] You know, I'm actually really proud of that, and I think the good citizens in my district who live in district number four are very happy to see that too.

[3:33:01] So, you know, I have to give, you know, cool those two, but I have to commend Captain O'Leary and his staff out there sworn in on someone for being so aggressive in doing their jobs and doing in a very professional way, because I get very little complaints to be honest, which I got one complaint all of last year of a guy in the traffic stop.

[3:33:22] It wasn't in my district, but I, the person lived in my district.

[3:33:27] So, again, I have to commit a cap in the very, just because, you know, my district, the

[3:33:33] ordinary district is in his district, and I'm sure everybody else is doing a great job in the

[3:33:38] market, police department, but I have to recognize those individuals that district number

[3:33:42] four.

[3:33:43] Thank you.

[3:33:46] I'm very impressed with how data is used to analyze and program and fight crime this and in this case to

[3:33:57] I'm sure what's going on in Milwaukee, please keep up with me.

[3:34:01] How do you know this is all relates to, it's extremely detailed and very good as far as I can see enough about it.

[3:34:12] Any other comments or questions by?

[3:34:14] Mr. Chair, I think there was a citizen who wanted to speak on his phone.

[3:34:18] This is not a matter of time.

[3:34:20] Any other questions by?

[3:34:22] Okay.

[3:34:24] Any other questions from committee members?

[3:34:28] Not relevant.

[3:34:29] Go ahead, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, members.

[3:34:37] Sorry about that.

[3:34:43] The item number 10,

[3:34:47] one one zero,

[3:34:49] four communication relating to the

[3:34:52] two thousand urban activities of the

[3:34:54] transportation review board.

[3:34:56] The transportation review board is

[3:34:59] a new board to this.

[3:35:08] So, we have met the heavy month on the second Friday of the month. We have dealt with a variety of issues,

[3:35:18] mostly in an informational capacity. We dealt with taxi care policies in the city Milwaukee.

[3:35:23] We dealt with issues involving valley parking in the city Milwaukee.

[3:35:27] We've got the issues concerning the hospitality industry and downtown Milwaukee and the impact of various transportation.

[3:35:35] The infrastructure concerns relative to the hospitality industry, both in terms of cabs, buses, bus stops,

[3:35:43] taxi cab loading zones, valley parking loading zones.

[3:35:47] We've dealt with issues involving in a moment of station.

[3:35:50] We've had representatives of the Wisconsin Public Transportation in to our meetings to discuss these

[3:35:55] states plans or a lack of plans to, well, certain maintenance facilities are otherwise renovate

[3:36:01] the train shed at the intermoral station, which is so an issue that's up in the air,

[3:36:06] so whether it's going to be funded at all, and if so at work level, and if so, according

[3:36:09] to what specifications, so we primarily operate as an informational and fact gathering body.

[3:36:16] We've advertised the existence of this body to the general public, anyone who would have

[3:36:22] to discuss a particular concern about public transportation taxing,

[3:36:27] and fuss over the case when you'd be a certainly welcome to do so.

[3:36:30] We would be able to do a little bit of a visual complaint,

[3:36:32] so the extent we can, we do have the Director of Operations

[3:36:35] from the Walk County Transit System sitting on the board,

[3:36:39] so you're an opportunity to talk directly to someone

[3:36:42] who's actually in charge of something,

[3:36:43] relative to the County Transit System, which is helpful.

[3:36:47] Several ideas have emanated from the group,

[3:36:50] among which include developing a ballet parking ordinance, which will try to bring some rationality to the

[3:36:56] whole ballet parking situation downtown.

[3:36:59] There was a draft pending.

[3:37:00] The draft is worth soliciting comments on that draft.

[3:37:03] There's of course the whole issue of reforming.

[3:37:06] The taxi cab regime in Milwaukee, whether that's to increase the number of licensees or whether to go to

[3:37:12] the Italian system, whether to specify certain forms of certain types of cab.

[3:37:17] as the kind of public New York City right now.

[3:37:19] We had a presentation on the new cab design that New York City has initiated and some

[3:37:28] of the manufacturers of Respondent II.

[3:37:31] We've talked about the period transit field that challenges which they're facing and I think

[3:37:38] that pretty much sums up.

[3:37:39] I think there was one thing that came out of this for the standpoint of the hospitality

[3:37:44] in the street, hotels, the tourist, the partner in the, the, the nookiness of the

[3:37:52] tourist bureau and others, there definitely need for improved transportation infrastructure

[3:37:58] downtown in particular bus shelters, maps, information that allows people to actually

[3:38:04] use the system without their granted system has contracted and shrunk significantly over

[3:38:08] the last 10 years.

[3:38:09] But what's left is still fairly functional, especially in the central business district.

[3:38:14] But if you're a visitor coming in Milwaukee, you will absolutely no ability to use them while you can

[3:38:18] return to the system unless you go out of your way to obtain information about routes, maps,

[3:38:24] times of operations, frequency of operations, and the like.

[3:38:28] So we've had this discussion follows a new so-called expressed trust to the airport.

[3:38:33] Your whole idea of trying to actually promote that as a transportation option for people

[3:38:39] traveling to the airport and the central business district or the North Shore.

[3:38:44] We've had these discussions, the issue we're putting luggage rocks on the bat on a certain

[3:38:48] sort of buses that will be used on this route, so we're going to need to provide greater

[3:38:53] convenience for barring passengers to provide router information that actually lets people know

[3:38:59] Usually, when the buses run and how frequently they run, and it's still a struggle, and

[3:39:04] the one thought that's occurred to me in the cameon, where there's perhaps the city should

[3:39:09] get involved, at least, making sure that the maps and scheduling and bus stop infrastructure

[3:39:16] are supports transit within the city is at a level which actually makes marijuana County

[3:39:21] transit usable by our citizens.

[3:39:24] So there's something that's going to be coming forward about setting up a public

[3:39:29] transit infrastructure and preservation fund, which has the goal of providing a well-resourced

[3:39:35] to deal with some of these issues of signage and bus stops in basic transit infrastructure.

[3:39:42] I'm really down town, but that's exclusively, and to see if we can improve the product with

[3:39:48] some marginal, which is spending in the margins, we are at least an impact to city positively.

[3:39:54] So I guess that's where I'll sum up with and I will be more to be more to discuss in the next one

[3:40:01] Thank you. I noticed a part of the discussion was around taxi stands, or places where people would be able to get to talk to the other in the hotel, including some remove the parking.

[3:40:14] That's right, at certain times. Could you use the info?

[3:40:17] Well, that's been, you know, a constant tug of law. I mean, every time you create a loading zone, you take away street parking, and somebody can play the button. There's no street parking.

[3:40:24] I mean, it's constant balancing of a finite amount of street parking space and what do you use it for?

[3:40:30] Do you clear out for ballet parking at night?

[3:40:32] That's eliminating street parking spaces, which at night would be free.

[3:40:36] Do you take out intersections or significant portions of traffic area under their sections to provide taxi stands?

[3:40:43] Like on a water stream, if you go to example, a little world clerk's cave would be good examples.

[3:40:48] To make sure that taxi's are, or to reduce the amount of bell parking that goes on,

[3:40:53] creating traffic congestion in the water street and the World World Third Street.

[3:40:57] Well, you can do that, but you take out a lot of street parking and what's the trade-off

[3:41:01] and how the local businesses feel about that.

[3:41:04] The local residents feel about that.

[3:41:05] So we're working through all those issues, and we have a diverse group.

[3:41:09] We'll present those from different quarters.

[3:41:12] We'll come all the way in and those are some of the issues we are in.

[3:41:16] So issues for this is said, lambers must walk to me about the hospitality or

[3:41:24] right there, but two buses dropping off and poking down Tom.

[3:41:28] Well, well, the bill buses were not going to probably not accommodate.

[3:41:31] I mean, they would go and go and get a lot of soccer or streeters, I think, for over

[3:41:36] or over.

[3:41:37] I know because we're not going to allow 64 buses to sit on the public road of

[3:41:40] way and just take off space.

[3:41:42] But they have been talking about tourism and I'd probably talk with you on a side on this.

[3:41:50] But if they drop people off for ten minutes at one place, they can't stand.

[3:41:54] Stinger, whereas we will have this block off lanes of traffic.

[3:41:58] Well, they can't.

[3:41:59] They can't.

[3:42:00] They can't.

[3:42:01] They can't.

[3:42:02] They can't.

[3:42:05] They want to see the subsidized their operation by providing free parking, and in their

[3:42:12] cases the equivalent of 304 automobile parking spaces to make it simpler for nothing.

[3:42:18] Like all the tour bus operators that come early, the music tours that come for the Riverside

[3:42:24] or the past, they park their buses on the street, they pay for that.

[3:42:29] And then they can stay there long or they want it.

[3:42:31] We have a pass for that, they pay, they get the opportunity.

[3:42:34] with the labor of the world one is they're going to free, and they're not going to get a free.

[3:42:39] In fact, they didn't ever come to our committee, so this is first I heard of this.

[3:42:42] They've not come to this body, their transportation, to discuss this issue, but if they did, they'd be told,

[3:42:49] is the same issue we had at the end of the year of Motor Station, where you have certain

[3:42:52] you see bus operators, they want to be freewriters, they don't want the way to use your

[3:42:58] motor facility, so they park outside the end of motor facility on the street, and then their

[3:43:04] But we're just not going to tolerate that, because there are no free lunch in the transportation world, even though bus companies,

[3:43:12] private bus company, one is much of a free lunch as they can get their hands on.

[3:43:17] There are issues like this that come to you, committee, or people would be able to contact you,

[3:43:21] but you need to be able to appear before this board, absolutely.

[3:43:25] Very good. I agree with you that it's very tough to use.

[3:43:28] But I'm working on a transit, unless, you know, you do where you're going to find a

[3:43:33] skill to rob, so it's difficult to find that information.

[3:43:37] You've got to swim a little brief for me.

[3:43:40] I just want to commend all of them and all of them to go over the home of this particular

[3:43:46] board.

[3:43:48] That was a successor to the much more narrowly-scoped taxi cab review board.

[3:43:55] Clearly, there are a much greater interest to the community when we talk about various forms

[3:44:02] of transportation, whether it be through mass transit, through walking through bicycle, pedestrian,

[3:44:07] and the like.

[3:44:09] And there is no doubt in my mind, while I know that there are many people here who certainly

[3:44:14] support and love, various forms of mass transportation, the passion and the breadth and depth

[3:44:23] of knowledge that Oben Balman has and when he brings that to this particular body, is it a good

[3:44:29] form and hopefully allows us to make improvements to their forms of transportation and affect

[3:44:34] this community.

[3:44:35] Thank you very much.

[3:44:36] By the time I'm moving to my notes and one other thing did come up which I was very interesting

[3:44:40] a couple of years ago, this council, I don't think anybody here was under council at the time.

[3:44:45] People in the blue was, but any event there was a big argument about whether we should

[3:44:49] private high bus stops by allowing a coach and our communications to come in.

[3:44:55] Spend money up front to the bus stops, provide lighting, provide additional lighting.

[3:45:00] Please provide public service announcements. The exchange for which they get to provide advertising.

[3:45:06] Now, this was a big step that was argument's problem, of course.

[3:45:09] As a classic pattern that we've seen the CLI around here, all kinds of promises are made up front

[3:45:14] to induce this council to provide some accommodation to the private sector.

[3:45:19] And then, as time goes on, all we benefit is they were supposed to provide, suddenly disappear,

[3:45:24] and go by the race side, and only the revenue collecting continues, which they exclusively benefit from.

[3:45:29] And I specifically refer to the fact that none of their bus stops are lighted anymore.

[3:45:35] They've just stopped illuminating them.

[3:45:38] Now, the semi-stent they could be blamed the city, the electrical system for that, to some degree.

[3:45:42] But that should have been dealt with at the time.

[3:45:45] And again, we sort of got baited and switched.

[3:45:48] We were induced to enter in an arrangement.

[3:45:49] Now, we just have the same slightly nicer bus stop that's maintained in no higher level.

[3:45:55] So, neurolumination of the biargumins in their phasor, and plus out of the paced.

[3:46:02] And so, in the advertising, very sketchy, because it turned out very trouble doing advertising.

[3:46:07] And no public service announcements and no math are of which was supposed to have been part of the original arrangement.

[3:46:12] So, once again, when we do a clear channel, you know, promises are made up thought, but don't always seem to get delivered.

[3:46:19] That won't seem to be delivered down the road.

[3:46:24] Thank you, amendment died. Any other comments with questions on the sign up?

[3:46:30] If not, I'll then, Bellman moves to receive and place on file.

[3:46:36] Now, the last item item, I'll then, if I'll number one, two, zero, zero, zero, zero,

[3:46:42] and ordinance will be into charges for patient services provided by the Moirkey Fire Department.

[3:46:48] Sure, thank you for already.

[3:46:54] You just need to stay at home again.

[3:46:58] And if you identify yourself for the record,

[3:47:04] you tell each of you for emergency medical services

[3:47:06] for the city market federal government.

[3:47:09] Maybe Sean Sully.

[3:47:13] Can you give us the essence of what this file is?

[3:47:16] This is an annual rate increase for ALS transportation services by the Marquis Fire Department of Cermetics.

[3:47:32] Well, these radiant creases are developed by the purchase of Rocky County, the review

[3:47:44] similar rates, all over the country, as you and I spoke on the familiar day we talked

[3:47:50] about the mileage rate and why that wasn't addressed and it's because they do comparables

[3:47:56] with other cities, fire permits, of our size, in the Midwest, such as Minneapolis, that

[3:48:04] do permanent transport, and we try to maintain that compatibility.

[3:48:13] So the chief's value value rate, the current rates, do the comparables, and vote on it,

[3:48:23] And then it is quoted to, in a governmental cooperation and a review of it, and give

[3:48:33] it a cool one, and then each department brings it in front of their,

[3:48:43] is this a rate based

[3:48:44] on cost?

[3:48:46] Yes.

[3:48:46] Move approval.

[3:48:47] or before that Mr. Schroeder.

[3:48:51] I don't know if I talk to what impact does this have

[3:48:55] any on the private ambulance services?

[3:48:58] As I see, we have non-evases service with our convenience.

[3:49:01] I know they don't do ALS, correct?

[3:49:04] You guys agree?

[3:49:04] All the ALS that comes through 911

[3:49:09] is supposed to be done or handled by

[3:49:13] Rocky, county, hydrocomment, ALS units.

[3:49:20] So the pilots to BLS and they have a pilot contracts with other providers such as nursing homes.

[3:49:30] Or they do direct and facility transport between a nursing home and a hospital.

[3:49:33] That is separate, they are ready to separate.

[3:49:36] I understand that, but they do transport for the city of Milwaukee.

[3:49:39] Yes.

[3:49:43] There's this impact in middle.

[3:49:45] That's why I want to know.

[3:49:46] It should not.

[3:49:48] It should not.

[3:49:49] But let me know if it does or doesn't.

[3:49:51] I need a definitive answer.

[3:49:55] The best answer I can give you all the means is that if you reach out.

[3:50:00] And everybody does what they're supposed to, it will not.

[3:50:04] You've got a piece of a non-transportation.

[3:50:07] Correct.

[3:50:08] It's not a ELS versus a BLS.

[3:50:12] Me or Richard, you can clarify it for me.

[3:50:14] If I may, Richard Rivers, legislative reference bureau,

[3:50:17] at the last cycle of the council over yet, BLS rates and charges were approved

[3:50:25] to those are in and separate sections of the code.

[3:50:31] The charges for non-transport that are, however,

[3:50:36] for whether it's subsection 16, for basic transport,

[3:50:41] or this section section, the subsection 17,

[3:50:46] are charges that are incurred as a result

[3:50:49] of the treatment during or at the time of transport.

[3:50:54] So, and that's why I asked a question, because I remember we just went through this with the private ambulance, and is this going to impact what we already, okay?

[3:51:04] Are these, are these, because I don't remember, are these fees already encompassed in the fire?

[3:51:10] No, they're entirely separate, okay, and it's why I want to make sure.

[3:51:14] Thank you.

[3:51:14] And these are fees that you'd ask who wind up or two for which they're coming wide.

[3:51:21] As the early municipality is judging the same same thing for the same service.

[3:51:26] Please based on based on cost and review the mileage indicated that there was no need or two resets at this point in time.

[3:51:36] That's correct.

[3:51:37] Thank you. All of the Davis moved.

[3:51:39] The crew.

[3:51:40] I was doing a lot of work, and that was a proof of inefficiency and non-souric spending

[3:51:52] as a joint.

[3:51:53] You know, for the business to come before this meeting, this meeting was a just character

[3:51:58] and power, right?

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