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MALE SPEAKER: Tomorrow is a
national holiday, Constitution
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Day, and I lived a
good portion of my life
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without even realizing that.
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But I'm going to start
and just read the preamble
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of the US Constitution.
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And it states, "We, the
people of the United States,
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in order to form a more perfect
union, establish justice,
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ensure domestic tranquility,
provide for the common defense,
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promote the general welfare, and
secure the blessings of liberty
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to ourselves and
to our prosperity,
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do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United
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States of America."
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So with that in mind, and with
all of the discourse that we've
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had over the last
several weeks, I just
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want to remind
everybody that we do
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live in a truly
remarkable republic
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and we are truly blessed.
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And I pray that we
can find common unity,
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discuss our differences in a
fair, open, and non-violent way.
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Regardless of where we're
at on the political side--
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left, right,
conservative, liberal--
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I think we all agree that
violence is not the answer
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and it just leads to
our broken country.
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So with that in mind,
I would like to just
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do a moment of silence
to pray for our country,
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Pray for Charlie Burke's
widow, his family,
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and pray for healing.
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So let's just take
one moment of silence
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and say a prayer
for our country.
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Thank you.
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We'll start with the Pledge.
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ALL: I pledge allegiance to
the flag, of the United States
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of America, and to
the Republic for which
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it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty
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and justice for all.
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MALE SPEAKER: At each committee
of the whole work session,
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the floor will be
open to solicit
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public comments on
items on the agenda
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after they have been presented.
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A comment card will need to be
filled out prior to speaking.
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Public comments will be limited
to three minutes for each person
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upon the discretion of the
county board chairperson.
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And we will start with
roll call, I guess.
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FEMALE SPEAKER: Mallika?
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MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
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FEMALE SPEAKER: Peters?
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MALE SPEAKER: Here.
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FEMALE SPEAKER: Hoisington?
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MALE SPEAKER: Here.
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FEMALE SPEAKER: Perfeerst?
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MALE SPEAKER: Here.
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FEMALE SPEAKER: Underdahl.
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MALE SPEAKER: Here.
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MALE SPEAKER:
First on our agenda
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is property tax and elections.
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But Denise is not
going to speak.
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I believe Dean is on
Circle Lake, Rice County.
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DEAN: Good morning, gentlemen.
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MALE SPEAKER: Good morning.
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MALE SPEAKER: Morning.
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DEAN: This is your update
for the Circle Lake
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Improvement District for 2025.
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I do have Cheryl Bonsen.
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She's our treasurer
here with me today,
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and Bill Houston, he's our
vice chair to back me up today
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on today's presentation.
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We'll go to the next slide.
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And it's just a reminder of
what the Circle Lake Improvement
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District is trying
to do, and that's
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to improve the water
quality of the lake
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to the point where we
can get off the and
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MPCA's impaired waters list.
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We go to the next slide,
just to remind you
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our four critical impairments.
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And then the next slide, those
four critical impairments
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are what causes or contributes
to the cyanobacteria
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or blue-green
algae and foul odor
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that we have out on the lake
through the summer season
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occasionally.
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We can move to the next slide.
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Our solution is a
three pronged approach.
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I've talked to you about this
before through the years,
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as we've tried to
identify the problems
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and try to figure out
what exactly we can do
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to resolve them, we've
come up with this three
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pronged approach.
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We need to get air, dissolved
oxygen into the lake.
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So we need to aerate the lake.
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There are products that will
sequester the phosphorus or make
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the phosphorus that is in the
lake-- and we have way too
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much phosphorus in this lake--
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sequester that.
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And then there are
biological agents
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that we can add to the lake to
help digest that muck that's
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in the bottom of the lake.
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So before I move on
to the next slide,
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the phosphorus
sequestration effort
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was something that
we had in front
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of you, actually, this year.
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We had a company
present a proposal to us
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for adding a phosphorus
sequestration agent to the lake.
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It was far, far too expensive
for us to fund on our own.
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So they were helping us get
a grant proposal in front
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of Congresswoman Jenny Craig.
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We asked for letters
of support for us
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and for that grant application.
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We want to make
sure that you know
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how much we appreciate
the letter that you
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had Sarah draft on our behalf.
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We had almost 30
residents and businesses
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around the lake that
wrote letters of support
[6:08]
for this effort.
[6:10]
Clean Water Partners
wrote a letter of support
[6:13]
for this effort, and also the
Sheriff's Department weighed in.
[6:18]
So all of those
letters of support
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went in with this grant
application to Jenny Craig,
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to Congresswoman Craig to
help us get that funded.
[6:30]
But unfortunately, we
didn't make the cut.
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We didn't make it.
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So we'll move on
to the next slide
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to talk about the three pronged
approach, I mentioned before.
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We've tried to fund
it as a whole package.
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It's been way too expensive,
so we've had to break
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it into individual segments.
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So the first segment that we've
started to focus on this year
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is aeration.
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We can move on to
the next slide.
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And then it looks like this
this year-- onto the next slide.
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It's a combination
of a surface aerator.
[7:08]
And I've labeled this
incorrectly, the nano bubbler.
[7:11]
It's actually a small bubble
diffuser and nanobubbler
[7:15]
or small bubble diffuser.
[7:16]
It just talks to the
size of the bubbles
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that these units are producing.
[7:22]
That fine bubble diffuser is
a little bit bigger bubble
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than the nanobubbler,
so that was
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my mistake when I labeled that.
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But between these
two units, they
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create a large bubble
of aerated water
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that is then moved
throughout the lake
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as the water flows
throughout the lake.
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This will ultimately,
and going into 2026,
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will actually be three of these
fine bubble diffusers that
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will circle a surface aerator.
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And we're going to deploy
them in three different spots.
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So we'll go on to
the next slide.
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This is currently where
the aerator is located.
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The DO recorder is taking
dissolved oxygen readings
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at three different
levels in the lake,
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and we're seeing results from
this, just this first unit--
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this kind of prototype unit--
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We're seeing results of this
aeration moving out at 400 feet
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away from the unit right now.
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We've measured it at 200 feet.
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We've measured it at 400 feet.
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And we'll continue moving
the DO recorders out until we
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find the limit as to
what this oxygen plume,
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this bubble of dissolved oxygen
in the water, how far it moves.
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And it's moving from
the surface all the way
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down to the bottom of the lake.
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So we're really excited
about the success
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that we're having with this.
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If we'll go up to
the next slide,
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the white arrows are the maps.
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This is how the water
flows through Circle Lake.
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So the red dot is where the
aerator is currently located.
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The blue dot down here on
the bottom on the right,
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if you move that dot to
the right a little bit,
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or to the east, that's where
the next unit will go for 2026.
[9:17]
And again, it will
be a single surface
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aerator surrounded by three
small bubble diffusers.
[9:23]
And then up at the
top, that blue dot
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is where we will locate another
unit, same as the others.
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And then, as we watch
this project develop,
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there are a couple
other locations where
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we might add a total of five.
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We're just figuring out
how effective this is
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and how far this dissolved
oxygen moves out.
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And we have to have this
dissolved oxygen in the lake
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for the lake to be healthy, so
that it can continue to support
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not only the wildlife
in there in the lake,
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but the bacteria
that's in the lake
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that helps dissolve the muck.
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And also, the fact that
when the oxygen in the lake
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goes to 0 at the bottom,
that's how that phosphorus gets
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released.
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That phosphorus is what the
algae uses to grow and bloom.
[10:17]
And then the cycle of foul
odor and foul water continues.
[10:22]
So that's our plan, as far as
the three pronged approach.
[10:26]
We may-- depending on
how this works out,
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there are some biological agents
where we might have some test
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spots where we add some of
that just to see how effective
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these different products work
as far as digesting the muck
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in the bottom of the lake.
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And that's something that
we're looking at as well.
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So that's what we've
worked at on the aeration
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aspect of our three
pronged approach for 2025.
[10:53]
Moving on to the
next slide, we're
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talking about weeds for 2025.
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The next slide is the areas
that we treated for weeds.
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It's curly leaf pondweed that
is our major invasive species.
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We have a little bit of
milfoil, but it's basically
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mostly curly pondweed.
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The area in green hash
there is where we treated,
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came to about 93 acres this
year, and it was very effective.
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And beyond that initial flush
of weeds that we took care
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of with the herbicide
treatment, our weeds this year
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have been very, very minimal.
[11:26]
And so that's worked
out really, really well.
[11:31]
That weed project was
funded by a $5,000 grant
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that came through Rice County.
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And then the Circle Lake
Association gave us $12,000
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to put towards weed control.
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We did not get a grant from
the DNR this year for weeds.
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We didn't get one last year.
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We didn't get one
this year, same thing.
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It's a lottery and we
just didn't get picked.
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So that's how that works.
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The hazard buoys, hazard to
navigation buoys are out there.
[12:04]
We want to make sure
that the Sheriff's
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Department, Nathan Bodine--
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if you can, Joe, let them know
how much we appreciate it--
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if we go to the next slide--
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appreciate them.
[12:17]
They put the buoys out
for us in the spring
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and they retrieve
them in the fall.
[12:23]
We'll be setting that
up here pretty soon.
[12:25]
So, Joe, if you let
the Sheriff's Office
[12:26]
know how much we appreciate
that-- the water patrol--
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thank you.
[12:30]
We move on to the
next slide, and I
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wanted to let you know that the
Circle Lake Improvement District
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now has a quarterly newsletter.
[12:38]
Bill Houston is
our editor on that.
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He does a really great job.
[12:42]
That was included in
your meeting packet.
[12:45]
What you see here is just kind
of half of the front page,
[12:47]
but it's in your meeting packet
if you'd care to look at that.
[12:50]
It's a great educational
tool and vehicle that we
[12:55]
get out to the community.
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It's available to them all
the time through our website,
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and so we're real happy that
Bill is doing this and getting
[13:04]
that information out there.
[13:06]
So we'll move to the next slide.
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For 2026, this is what
we're looking at to do.
[13:17]
The one thing I haven't spoken
about is any watershed projects.
[13:20]
We are looking at into
watershed projects
[13:23]
as they come to our attention.
[13:25]
And then the next
slide is our financial.
[13:30]
So I'll stop right here and
ask, is there any questions
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about what I've covered so
far, what we've done for 2025
[13:35]
and what we're looking like
we're going to do for '26?
[13:38]
No?
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MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead.
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MALE SPEAKER: Mr.
Chair, thank you.
[13:42]
Dean, my question is,
treating for this muck,
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what happens to it?
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DEAN: It just biodegrades, but
it can't do it without oxygen.
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MALE SPEAKER: But
what is in the muck?
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Sand and just dirt?
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DEAN: Dirt and sand and
biological material from--
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the algae grows, it dies, it
sinks to the bottom of the lake.
[14:02]
The weeds grow, they die.
[14:04]
They sink to the
bottom of the lake.
[14:05]
So it's organic material that
is just resting in the bottom
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of the lake, trying to decay.
[14:11]
But when it does, it
uses up all the oxygen.
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And then the phosphorus
that's in the soil
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in the bottom of the lake
starts getting released.
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And the whole cycle
starts all over again.
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MALE SPEAKER: So this
just dispenses throughout
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the whole lake, then?
[14:25]
DEAN: Yes, sir.
[14:26]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you.
[14:28]
MALE SPEAKER: Anybody else?
[14:29]
So, Dean, how are you
powering these aerators?
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DEAN: It's electric.
[14:35]
They're electric powered.
[14:36]
MALE SPEAKER: Electric?
[14:36]
So is that coming off somebody's
power in someone's home?
[14:39]
DEAN: In the particular
site we have right now,
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there's actually a power
pole down there that is--
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I believe it was installed
quite a number of years
[14:50]
ago when the
Tri-Lakes Sportsman's
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Club was aerating that part of
the lake in the winter time.
[14:56]
So there's a transformer
and a power pole
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down there on one of
our member's properties.
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We have a lease agreement
with him to access that site,
[15:04]
and we're powering
this particular unit
[15:07]
off of that power pole.
[15:08]
So we have our own meter and
that's how that's going to go.
[15:12]
On the other two
sites, that will
[15:13]
be power that will be
provided by the resident,
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and we'll figure out a
way to compensate them.
[15:19]
I don't know how
that's going to go.
[15:21]
And you reminded me,
as just a side note,
[15:25]
is that Benjamin Berry area
where we have the aerator right
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now will be an area that we will
aerate throughout the winter
[15:32]
to support the fish and also
continue trying to get oxygen
[15:35]
into the lake water as well.
[15:38]
That will look like
that surface aerator
[15:41]
that I showed you plus two more.
[15:43]
There'll be three of them.
[15:44]
We won't use the
bottom diffusers,
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but we'll put three of
the surface aerators
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out there to keep an
open section of water
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throughout the winter.
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MALE SPEAKER: Well, good.
[15:54]
Well, I appreciate
what you're doing.
[15:56]
It's incremental.
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It's an uphill battle.
[15:59]
But I'm glad that
you're addressing
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it the best way you can.
[16:03]
DEAN: And the thing we're
really excited about, like I
[16:05]
said, is we're seeing
results and we've
[16:07]
got something that's modular.
[16:09]
It's transferable.
[16:10]
If we can really get it
dialed in, we can use it.
[16:14]
You can use it on other
lakes, and it's affordable.
[16:16]
It's not like these
multi-million dollar projects
[16:19]
that I've been talking to
you about in previous years.
[16:21]
This is something
that we can afford,
[16:24]
that we can pay for ourselves--
not that we're not looking
[16:26]
for grants and the like
to expand these things,
[16:30]
but this is
something that's wet.
[16:32]
It's in the water,
it's being tested.
[16:33]
And we're real excited.
[16:34]
MALE SPEAKER: You're
doing what you can.
[16:36]
DEAN: We're doing what we can.
[16:36]
Exactly, sir.
[16:37]
Thank you.
[16:39]
So we'll go over our
financials real quick.
[16:43]
Year to date income, we've
brought in about $58,000.
[16:48]
The two points I want
to make on this slide,
[16:50]
I mentioned the
$12,000 from the Circle
[16:52]
Lake Association for weeds.
[16:54]
They also gave us a $15,000 to
go towards the aeration project.
[16:59]
Next slide, please.
[17:03]
We've spent about $75,000.
[17:08]
The big number there
is the projects
[17:10]
which will be broken
out in the next slide,
[17:14]
if we can move to that.
[17:15]
So we've spent a little over
$27,000 on the lake restoration
[17:21]
project or the aeration
project, and a little
[17:26]
over $40,000 for weeds.
[17:28]
We'll go to the next slide.
[17:31]
This is the estimated
income and expenses
[17:34]
for the rest of the year.
[17:36]
The top number is the second
half of the assessment
[17:39]
that will come in.
[17:41]
This is really great, guys.
[17:44]
The second number is $22,000.
[17:46]
We had a member get up at our
annual meeting in August that
[17:49]
challenged the group,
challenged the membership
[17:51]
to match a $1,000
donation that he was
[17:55]
going to make to the district.
[18:00]
That challenge generated $22,000
in donations from the district.
[18:08]
So we're really
excited about that
[18:09]
and we certainly appreciate
that kind of support.
[18:13]
It shows you the involvement
and the dedication
[18:16]
that our members have towards
getting this lake cleaned up.
[18:24]
So you see the number for
the estimated expenses
[18:27]
for the remainder of the year.
[18:29]
We might be a little
bit low on that number
[18:30]
because we didn't know
we were going to have
[18:32]
that windfall of $22,000.
[18:35]
We may find that we
spend a little bit more
[18:37]
on the aeration project, just
because if we buy something now,
[18:43]
it might be cheaper than
waiting for it next year.
[18:46]
I don't think we'll spend
the $4,800 for weeds.
[18:49]
There's just no weeds
in the lake right now,
[18:50]
but there was about $5,000
left over in the budget
[18:53]
for weeds if we had
a milfoil problem,
[18:55]
and we don't at this point.
[18:58]
We're looking at
somewhere just north
[19:01]
of $98,000 in the bank
at the end of the year,
[19:05]
if this kind of pans out.
[19:07]
So we'll go to the next slide.
[19:10]
And this is the vote.
[19:13]
You can go to the next slide.
[19:14]
We had 42 parcels vote
at our annual meeting,
[19:18]
and there are the
results of that.
[19:21]
They approved, and then we
can go on to the next slide.
[19:27]
This is the budget that was
sent out to our membership.
[19:30]
This is the budget
that they approved.
[19:32]
I've broken it down into
the income and expense
[19:35]
side for the next slides.
[19:36]
So if we can go up one
more, on the income side
[19:40]
of the approved budget
for 2026, for this budget,
[19:46]
we carried over $70,000.
[19:49]
The membership approved a
$400 per parcel assessment.
[19:54]
That's going to generate
us around $66,800.
[19:57]
The grants, I put this
grant DNR weed in here
[20:03]
just because we just
don't think we're
[20:05]
going to get any
money from the state.
[20:06]
We've always had budgeted
$10,000 from the DNR,
[20:11]
but I don't think that's
going to happen this year.
[20:13]
I'm not sure that they're going
to have any money for weeds
[20:15]
at all.
[20:16]
But certainly, if they
do, we'll apply for it,
[20:19]
but we're not counting on it.
[20:21]
As far as we know, the $5,000
that comes through the County
[20:24]
for weeds will be there.
[20:25]
And then hopefully, we've
got $12,500 budgeted from
[20:32]
other grant sources,
the Circle Lake
[20:34]
Association being one of them.
[20:36]
Up to the next slide,
estimated expenses.
[20:39]
That top group of numbers just
kind of keeps the lights on.
[20:42]
This is the budget for the
lake restoration project
[20:45]
and weeds management project.
[20:48]
Both of those projects are
over $5,000, so our membership
[20:51]
has to vote on those.
[20:52]
They've approved those as well.
[20:54]
So if we do, in fact,
spend all this money,
[20:58]
that'll pretty much
tap us out for 2026.
[21:01]
I think we'll carry in
a little bit more than
[21:03]
the $70,000 but it
gives you a rough
[21:05]
idea of what we're looking at.
[21:07]
And this is what the
membership approved.
[21:09]
So we'll go to the next slide.
[21:11]
For questions on the budget?
[21:17]
MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead.
[21:18]
DEAN: Well then, I thank
you very much for your time.
[21:20]
I hope that when it
comes time for you
[21:21]
to vote on our budget and our
items, that you approve it.
[21:27]
And certainly, if you
have any questions,
[21:29]
you know how to get a hold of me
and I appreciate your support.
[21:36]
MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead.
[21:37]
MALE SPEAKER: Just a thank
you to you and everybody
[21:40]
on the board and the
residents for stepping
[21:43]
up and doing what
you're doing to make
[21:45]
improvements to the lake.
[21:46]
DEAN: You're welcome.
[21:47]
I'll let them know.
[21:49]
MALE SPEAKER: I
also have a comment.
[21:50]
MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead.
[21:52]
MALE SPEAKER: The
Circle Lake island,
[21:53]
you're all aware
of the land trust,
[21:56]
purchasing it and
going to hopefully
[21:58]
switch it over to the DNR, so
that's going to be a good thing.
[22:02]
And then, I have had
several comments.
[22:04]
I live real close to the
lake, of course, of how good
[22:08]
it was this year,
the weeds and stuff.
[22:10]
So you must be doing
something right, so thank you.
[22:15]
DEAN: You're welcome.
[22:19]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you, Dean.
[22:20]
Appreciate it.
[22:20]
DEAN: Thank you.
[22:23]
MALE SPEAKER: Next,
we have our assessor's
[22:24]
office with Josh Schoen.
[22:30]
JOSH SCHOEN: Good
morning, commissioners.
[22:31]
MALE SPEAKER: Good morning.
[22:32]
MALE SPEAKER: Morning.
[22:32]
JOSH SCHOEN: Thanks for letting
me do an update this morning.
[22:35]
I'm going to start
just by showing
[22:38]
the organization of my office.
[22:39]
So I have 13 full staff in
my office, including myself.
[22:44]
Our most recent hire
was in the end of May,
[22:47]
so we've been fully
staffed since the end
[22:48]
of May, which is
the longest stretch
[22:50]
we've had since before COVID.
[22:52]
So I'm thankful for that.
[22:54]
Hopefully, that continues.
[22:56]
But we have six appraisers,
three, I guess, office staff,
[23:01]
and then two GIS
people besides myself
[23:04]
and the assistant county
assessor, Carolyn.
[23:08]
Next slide.
[23:10]
I showed this slide when
I gave the presentation
[23:13]
at the County Board of
Appeal and Equalization.
[23:15]
So you can kind of see where
the market value has gone
[23:18]
over the more recent years.
[23:21]
Our sales ratio
study analyzes sales,
[23:25]
so for the '26
assessed values, we
[23:28]
started with sales
starting October 1 of '24
[23:32]
and will go through the end
of September 30 of 2025.
[23:36]
So we're getting close to
the end of that time study.
[23:40]
From what I'm seeing before
the sales ratio season's over,
[23:46]
is that we'll see similar
increases as a year ago,
[23:50]
that kind of all property types,
our assessed value compared to
[23:54]
the sale prices have been low.
[23:57]
So I'm expecting
to see increases
[23:59]
across all the property types.
[24:01]
MALE SPEAKER: I have
a question about that.
[24:03]
JOSH SCHOEN: Go ahead.
[24:05]
MALE SPEAKER: At what point--
[24:06]
and I know this is not
you-- but at what point are
[24:09]
the Department of Revenue--
because that's who
[24:11]
you answer to, right--
[24:12]
I mean, they make the rules.
[24:14]
At what point are they
going to say, gosh,
[24:19]
we've made the assessors
raise the value on everything
[24:23]
from commercial to residential,
to apartments to farmland,
[24:27]
that it's not sustainable?
[24:28]
Because that's the
point we're approaching.
[24:31]
You can deliver that message
to whoever from the Department
[24:34]
of Revenue, but I will as well.
[24:36]
But it's becoming the point
where people can't, because it's
[24:39]
part of the tax
process of the value
[24:42]
and what they pay for
taxes on their homes.
[24:45]
It's getting to the point where
it's not sustainable for people
[24:49]
to be able to live in
their homes anymore
[24:51]
because the values have
been rising so dramatically
[24:54]
that we're going to
have a mess on our hands
[24:58]
here coming up soon.
[24:59]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, and
one of the big things
[25:02]
to make sure understand
too, is remember,
[25:05]
the values are just how
the levies are distributed.
[25:07]
So I mean, if levies stayed
the same and values doubled,
[25:11]
the taxes would stay the same
in a more simple tax system.
[25:15]
So it is how it's
distributed statutorily.
[25:20]
Assessors must value
at market value.
[25:24]
I know other states have done
a little bit different things.
[25:28]
In Minnesota, they
use net tax capacity.
[25:30]
So not every classification
pays the same amount of taxes
[25:34]
because there's a
multiplier that changes,
[25:37]
that percentage that they pay.
[25:39]
That's how Minnesota's
chosen to do that.
[25:43]
I know Iowa, like
on their farmland,
[25:45]
they value it like a small
percentage of the value.
[25:48]
So it's always just how do
you shake that out, I guess.
[25:54]
But what we are seeing is,
the good thing about when
[25:58]
we see all property types--
[26:00]
so residential and commercial
apartments-- when they all go up
[26:04]
rather opposed to
one goes up, one goes
[26:06]
down, that creates a tax shift.
[26:09]
So that's a good thing about
when all of them go up together,
[26:12]
at least there's not
this big tax shift
[26:15]
that you could see
because then, there's
[26:16]
kind of unexpected tax bills.
[26:19]
So that's the positive
of that, I guess.
[26:23]
Also, just having
a healthy market
[26:26]
is usually a better
economical sign too.
[26:30]
So hopefully, that
exists as well.
[26:35]
I guess we can move
on to the next slide.
[26:37]
This just shows the residential
and seasonal rec sales.
[26:43]
I always kind of show
this from year to year,
[26:45]
what the average
county-wide and average
[26:47]
and Faribault, Northfield.
[26:49]
Last year's study for
the 2025 assessment,
[26:53]
the average county-wide
sale price was $350,000.
[26:57]
And preliminary, through
the first week in September,
[27:00]
it was $370,000.
[27:03]
And then you can
see in Northfield,
[27:06]
I think it went from 365 to
378, and then in Faribault, from
[27:11]
285 to just about $300,000.
[27:14]
So you can see those increases
in the average sale price.
[27:22]
Last year, when
I gave an update,
[27:23]
I had several slides
on legislative changes,
[27:27]
and a lot of them really
created some tax shifts.
[27:30]
We saw a really active bill
a year ago with the tax bill
[27:34]
this year.
[27:35]
There was a lot discussed
in the tax bill,
[27:37]
but nothing really
made it through.
[27:40]
Some of the big
changes a year ago
[27:42]
was that they redid the
formula for the Homestead
[27:45]
market value exclusion.
[27:46]
That probably had the
biggest impact on tax shifts.
[27:50]
Also, you can see in this
chart, from '23 to '24,
[27:55]
the Ag Homestead tier went
from just over $2.1 million
[27:59]
to $3.5 million.
[28:01]
That created some shift.
[28:02]
There was a low income
rental classification
[28:05]
that really had a reduced rate
from essentially 0.75% to 0.25%.
[28:12]
The legislature doesn't
always pass bills
[28:15]
on the Homestead tier limit.
[28:16]
Usually, the
Department of Revenue
[28:18]
just determines that based
on the value increases
[28:21]
that are on the state.
[28:22]
There was that big
change a year ago
[28:24]
because legislators didn't
think the Department
[28:27]
of Revenue kept up with
the changes of ag value.
[28:30]
But this year, there was a
$300,000 increase in that limit,
[28:34]
which is percentage-wise,
pretty similar
[28:37]
to the tillable increase that we
saw a year ago with our ag land.
[28:42]
So that's probably
the one big change
[28:46]
for this coming assessment.
[28:49]
MALE SPEAKER: So, Josh, can
I ask just a question here?
[28:51]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah.
[28:52]
MALE SPEAKER: How
do you determine
[28:54]
agricultural homestead?
[28:56]
I mean, what's the
criteria for that?
[28:58]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, so
the most basic way is
[29:01]
if you own and occupy the farm.
[29:04]
So you live on the farm.
[29:06]
Once you establish ag
homestead-- so that usually
[29:09]
means at least 10 contiguous
productive acres in production--
[29:13]
then, once you establish
that, you can link
[29:15]
farmland within four townships.
[29:18]
There's different ways.
[29:20]
That's one thing that's added to
the complexity of ag homesteads
[29:24]
that we have--
[29:25]
a lot of our administration
in our offices
[29:27]
just follow this stuff, but
there's relative ag homesteads.
[29:33]
There's the special
ag homesteads
[29:34]
because the farming community
has changed where there's
[29:37]
more entity-owned properties.
[29:40]
Maybe they're
moving off the farm,
[29:43]
but they still continue
to farm but live in town.
[29:46]
There's some ways that they can
qualify if they're the farmer
[29:49]
or a relative is a farmer.
[29:52]
They've really kind
of expanded the ways
[29:54]
that that's changed
as farming operations
[29:56]
have changed over the years.
[29:59]
So it is something
we have, in general,
[30:03]
our homestead applications,
once people file, they continue
[30:06]
to get that homestead credit.
[30:08]
But like the special egg, we
require applications every year.
[30:11]
Any kind of relative homestead,
we've been on every other year
[30:14]
cycle just to make sure
they continue to live
[30:17]
there and meet that criteria.
[30:19]
So it is a little more
complex than a simple answer
[30:24]
on that, but that's
changed over the years.
[30:25]
And every year-- well,
not every year, but it
[30:27]
seems like there's a
little different rules
[30:31]
periodically within.
[30:33]
MALE SPEAKER: And
then the valuation
[30:34]
limit would be
that's the maximum
[30:36]
that they can be valued at?
[30:37]
Is that what you're getting at?
[30:38]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah.
[30:38]
Once all the farmland and
outbuildings reach that--
[30:44]
let's say, it'll
be 3.8 next year.
[30:47]
Once they hit that
limit, then they're
[30:49]
taxed at the non-homestead
rate, which is twice as much
[30:52]
as the homestead rate.
[30:53]
So your taxes
double on that part.
[30:55]
So we've had over the years,
like a truth and taxation time.
[30:58]
We'll have some farmers
come in and say my taxes
[31:03]
doubled on this parcel.
[31:04]
This can't be right.
[31:05]
And what happens
a lot of times is
[31:06]
that parcel was
getting homestead
[31:08]
and then it doesn't
get homestead.
[31:09]
Maybe it's at the
end of that tier.
[31:11]
It is one thing, legislation
addressed that homestead tier
[31:14]
a year ago because there
wasn't a lot of change in there
[31:18]
and we were having
some pretty big
[31:19]
value increases in especially
the southern part of the state.
[31:23]
So we saw a lot of that.
[31:25]
And then it's such a big
difference between homestead
[31:28]
and non-homestead with
ag land and outbuildings,
[31:31]
that you notice that.
[31:32]
Because really, the biggest
difference is the rate doubles.
[31:35]
And there's also an
ag homestead credit
[31:37]
that farmers get
that's up to $490
[31:41]
based on the value
of the property.
[31:45]
MALE SPEAKER: Well, thank
you for that clarification.
[31:48]
You guys deal with
that more than I do.
[31:51]
But you understand
that completely?
[31:53]
MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
[31:54]
I've been to his
office several times.
[31:57]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, no,
Minnesota has the most complex
[32:01]
property tax laws in
the entire country,
[32:04]
and it's not even close.
[32:06]
I know the last time I heard, it
was like Minnesota had something
[32:08]
like 67 property
tax classifications,
[32:11]
and the next highest
state was Iowa with 11.
[32:14]
It was that big a disparity.
[32:16]
And there are credits
for different things.
[32:21]
One thing that's changed
over the more recent years
[32:23]
is there's a school building
bond credit that became
[32:28]
established as a lot
of old state schools
[32:30]
failed to pass
referendums because it
[32:34]
would impact the farmers so
much and they'd vote against it.
[32:37]
Now when there's a school
building bond, 70% of that
[32:42]
comes back as a
credit to farmland.
[32:45]
So they're only paying on 30%
of it, where historically,
[32:49]
they've paid 100%.
[32:53]
Next slide?
[32:54]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you
for that clarification.
[32:55]
I think it's important
and you helped me
[32:57]
understand it a little better.
[32:58]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah.
[33:01]
Every year, the
Department of Revenue
[33:03]
does a State Board
of Equalization.
[33:05]
So whenever there's six or more
sales within a property type
[33:09]
in a jurisdiction, our
median value or median sale,
[33:15]
we have to be
within 90% to 105%.
[33:18]
So if I don't get
that value there,
[33:22]
the state steps in and
issues state orders
[33:25]
that brings the whole
jurisdiction kind
[33:27]
of up to that close to 100%.
[33:31]
And then anyone that
appeals in that jurisdiction
[33:34]
would lose their appeal.
[33:36]
So it's something
that we want to avoid.
[33:39]
And then also, they look
at different measures too.
[33:42]
Like, there's certain
jurisdictions,
[33:43]
like especially some of
our smaller townships
[33:45]
that don't get six sales.
[33:47]
So they look at how
those sales have occurred
[33:51]
over the five year
period to see if we're
[33:53]
making the changes necessary.
[33:55]
So just because
there's not sales
[33:57]
there doesn't mean we can't
just let the values be flat,
[34:02]
and that's something we've been
keeping up with the market.
[34:04]
We haven't had any
issues with that.
[34:07]
And it's good too, just
from a fairness, equity
[34:10]
with other taxpayers and to
make sure we're addressing
[34:13]
those areas where we don't
have sales as we can see what
[34:17]
the market indicates in
other areas of the County
[34:19]
and other areas of the state.
[34:23]
And then, one of the big things
we're working on right now--
[34:27]
we're kind of wrapping
it up-- is our appraisers
[34:29]
do quintile inspections.
[34:31]
So we're required statutorily
to visit each property at least
[34:35]
once every five year period.
[34:37]
So every year, I guess since
last four or five years,
[34:42]
we send out postcards
of the properties
[34:44]
that we're going to visit.
[34:45]
People have the opportunity
to line up appointments
[34:48]
and we start going out
and visiting properties.
[34:52]
And it's really,
a lot of times, I
[34:53]
think people are a little
worried that we're going out
[34:55]
there or we're going
to value the property
[34:57]
and we're seeing this-- we
value properties every year.
[34:59]
We're keeping up
with the market.
[35:01]
It's really just to verify
whether the information we have
[35:04]
is correct.
[35:05]
Sometimes, we'll
be at properties
[35:07]
and maybe the conditions
improved or there's something
[35:09]
there that we didn't realize.
[35:10]
But also, there's times that
they're having issues that might
[35:14]
bring the value down or
buildings that have been
[35:16]
raised that we didn't realize.
[35:18]
So there's both ways on that.
[35:22]
And we're really trying to
be as efficient as we can.
[35:27]
We really utilize the air photos
that we've been getting a lot
[35:32]
to make it more efficient, that
historically, like the director
[35:36]
of the Department of
Revenue, was to go out
[35:38]
and measure every single
building at every property
[35:41]
that we're at.
[35:43]
And that's just not realistic
with all the farms that we have.
[35:45]
And we do all that
on air photos.
[35:48]
We usually only measure if
we have some discrepancy
[35:51]
that we see on the air photos.
[35:55]
And then, you can see, through
the end of August, we've visited
[36:00]
almost 5,800 properties.
[36:03]
About 6,000 would be
1/5 of our parcels,
[36:06]
so we're getting close to
wrapping up our quintile
[36:09]
inspections, and
then our appraisers
[36:10]
move to checking permits for
new construction for the year.
[36:16]
On the next slide, we
currently have 13 active tax
[36:22]
petitions in the County.
[36:24]
One in payable '24, which we
have a motion hearing next week
[36:29]
to try to get
dismissed, and then
[36:31]
12 for the payable '25 year.
[36:33]
I think we started with
17 and payable '25,
[36:37]
and we've either had five of
them dismissed or settled.
[36:44]
Next slide.
[36:45]
So the Beacon website, so this
is kind of a website that really
[36:51]
shows taxpayers a lot
of the information
[36:53]
that we have on
their properties,
[36:54]
shows property lines, maps.
[36:57]
Last year, we had over 390,000
visitors, over 1,000 a day.
[37:03]
With that, I think there
was over 5 million views
[37:06]
of different sites on there.
[37:10]
This year, we're quite a
bit ahead of that pace.
[37:12]
We're on pace for
over 500,000 visits.
[37:17]
And it's been a really
good tool as an assessor
[37:22]
that we have transparency
with the taxpayers,
[37:24]
that we can talk with taxpayers.
[37:26]
And we hear when stuff's
wrong, whether it's
[37:29]
their property
lines or information
[37:30]
that we have on their property.
[37:33]
I think it's been a good tool.
[37:34]
We have tax
statements out there.
[37:36]
People can see a copy of
their subdivision or plat.
[37:41]
We have corner
certificates out there.
[37:44]
Mike is working on
linking our sales
[37:47]
to their LandShark
TriMin sites so that they
[37:51]
can link to those documents.
[37:54]
So it's been a really
good tool for us.
[37:57]
We get a lot of
compliments from people
[37:58]
on how usable our website is.
[38:02]
MALE SPEAKER: So I have
one question on that.
[38:04]
JOSH SCHOEN: Sure.
[38:05]
MALE SPEAKER: The accuracy
of the Beacon sites, I mean,
[38:09]
how much or how
accurate is it compared
[38:12]
to actual surveyed stakes?
[38:15]
And can people look at that
with a confidence of this
[38:19]
is what it is?
[38:20]
JOSH SCHOEN: No.
[38:21]
I would say it's definitely
not survey grade.
[38:23]
I think it'll be very
difficult to get it there,
[38:27]
but it's the best
information that we have.
[38:29]
We've gotten a lot
better over the years
[38:32]
through efforts of our
GIS, and of course,
[38:35]
Mike, the county surveyor.
[38:36]
We've really cleaned up
a lot of information.
[38:41]
It's tough.
[38:42]
And even with the air
photos, the way they line up
[38:44]
isn't always exactly perfect.
[38:47]
So there's always some
error built in there.
[38:50]
But you'll see
they're pretty good,
[38:52]
and I like that we
have it out there.
[38:54]
We hear from taxpayers
that we really
[38:56]
research some legal
descriptions and we
[38:59]
make some improvements on those
parcel lines based on that too.
[39:03]
But I would say it's
gotten drastically
[39:06]
better the last 10 years.
[39:09]
And it continues to
be a work in progress.
[39:11]
I don't think it'll
ever be survey grade,
[39:14]
but it continues to get better.
[39:17]
And we hope to hear from people
when there is something--
[39:22]
MALE SPEAKER: Discrepancy?
[39:22]
JOSH SCHOEN: --yeah, some
discrepancy because that's
[39:24]
when we look into it.
[39:27]
It gives us an opportunity
to relook at things.
[39:30]
MALE SPEAKER: Well, good.
[39:30]
I think it's good for everybody
to know that because some people
[39:34]
make the presumption that
what's shown on Beacons,
[39:38]
your fence is on my
property or whatever.
[39:40]
JOSH SCHOEN: Yeah, I know we
do get a lot of questions,
[39:42]
we're thinking about
putting a fence up.
[39:43]
Get a survey or here's-- the
nice thing is we can pull
[39:47]
the plat right up and say, these
corners are located right here.
[39:50]
You need to find those to put up
a fence, but it's not perfect,
[39:56]
but it's a good
representation, I guess.
[39:59]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you.
[40:02]
JOSH SCHOEN: The
final slide that I
[40:03]
have is the air photo flight.
[40:06]
We were on the first of a three
year contract over six years.
[40:11]
So this spring, we flew air
photo flight by eagle view.
[40:17]
It was purchased with
the compliance fund,
[40:18]
and it's been a
really good tool.
[40:20]
We put the ortho image
out on our Beacon website.
[40:23]
And there's actually
a tool that you
[40:26]
can look at some
oblique imagery,
[40:28]
but it's really a tool that
we use internally a lot.
[40:31]
Our office, the assessor's
office, dominates the use of it
[40:34]
but other departments
around the County have it
[40:36]
and we provide it to
the cities as well.
[40:40]
In 2024, we had over
55,000 image views.
[40:44]
And this year, we're on
pace for more than that.
[40:47]
So we have over
43,000 image views.
[40:50]
It's really, really allowed
us to do our job differently,
[40:55]
to be more efficient
in the field.
[40:56]
It's really amazing how far
this technology has come.
[40:59]
And we're not purchasing the
best product that they have.
[41:05]
This year, we by default,
got a better product.
[41:09]
We got three inch
resolution, which
[41:11]
means each pixel in the photo
is 3 inches by 3 inches, which I
[41:15]
say without human error,
you can measure within three
[41:19]
inches on each side, so you
can measure within 6 inches
[41:22]
before kind of human
error, I guess.
[41:25]
They have a 1 inch product.
[41:27]
Traditionally, we've gotten
some three and some six,
[41:30]
or it used to be
a 12 inch product
[41:33]
that we got when they
first kind of came out,
[41:35]
so it's gotten better.
[41:37]
And just having different angles
of things has really helped
[41:41]
us do our job efficiently.
[41:47]
And I guess, with that, are
there any other questions
[41:50]
that you have for me today?
[41:55]
MALE SPEAKER: I
don't believe so.
[41:59]
JOSH SCHOEN: Well, thank you.
[42:00]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you
Josh, appreciate it.
[42:04]
Next, we have Adult
Services with Megan Thomas.
[42:16]
MEGAN THOMAS: Good
morning, commissioners.
[42:17]
MALE SPEAKER: Good morning.
[42:18]
MALE SPEAKER: Morning.
[42:19]
MEGAN THOMAS: I have quite
a packed agenda here,
[42:22]
so I'm going to try to really
just hit some highlights
[42:25]
and take any questions
that you might have,
[42:28]
given today's agenda in general.
[42:30]
So I just started off
with some acronyms.
[42:33]
We use them quite
frequently downstairs.
[42:35]
So when I say some of these
things, you might be like, well,
[42:39]
what does that mean?
[42:39]
I kind of just laid it out
for you in the beginning.
[42:43]
So next slide, please.
[42:46]
Continued, you can go to
the next one as well, Sarah.
[42:49]
Thank you.
[42:49]
So we're just going to start off
with CADI, Community Alternative
[42:52]
for Disability Inclusion.
[42:54]
So right now in 2025, we
currently have 8 case managers
[42:59]
and we're serving 423 cases
with 25 in the hopper.
[43:04]
And what that just
means is that we're
[43:05]
waiting for people's medical
assistance to be approved
[43:09]
or their certification
of disability, which
[43:12]
is one of the two
eligibility requirements
[43:15]
to open to a CADI waiver.
[43:17]
So in combination of
one or two, or both,
[43:21]
that's where the
number 25 comes in.
[43:24]
Next slide.
[43:26]
In MnCHOICES, we added a
new lead position in 2025.
[43:31]
The MnCHOICES team consists of
four assessors at this time,
[43:35]
including a lead who
also does assessments.
[43:38]
They complete all waiver PCA
initials, annual MnCHOICES
[43:43]
for PCA, or what is now rolling
out to be CFSS, So Community
[43:49]
First Services and Supports.
[43:51]
The second version, or MnCHOICES
2.0, launched in October 2024.
[43:56]
And I know that I've previously
shared with you there
[43:58]
were a lot of reservations.
[44:00]
There's been a lot of
bumps along the way.
[44:02]
There continues to be a
lot of concerns and bumps
[44:06]
along the way using this
new platform for us.
[44:09]
And with that, CFSS rolled out
at the same time, which has
[44:13]
also been quite problematic.
[44:16]
There hasn't been enough
providers in the state on board
[44:19]
to provide the CFSS portion.
[44:23]
And so how that differs
from straight PCA
[44:25]
is the CFSS model
allows a person
[44:29]
to have a monetary
budget, and so it
[44:32]
allows a person and their
family or caregivers
[44:35]
to determine how
those needs are going
[44:37]
to be met with a budget model.
[44:39]
And providers haven't
really gotten on board
[44:44]
with being able to be the fiscal
supervisor of those things
[44:48]
as well as providing
the service.
[44:49]
So we've had a long wait for
families to open to CFSS.
[44:54]
However, their PCA
does stay in place,
[44:57]
so they're not losing services.
[44:59]
There's no gap in services.
[45:01]
The state is just
struggling with trying
[45:04]
to lift that and bring
it to what I think
[45:06]
their fruition was meant to be.
[45:10]
MnCHOICE assessors are case
managing all of their own CFSS
[45:14]
PCA individuals,
which is nothing new,
[45:17]
but an average caseload for
an assessor is 77 to 120.
[45:21]
And with the new MnCHOICES
2.0, it certainly
[45:27]
has increased our
number of appeals
[45:29]
that we're facing downstairs.
[45:31]
So we've had 15
appeals so far, which
[45:33]
is actually quite high for us.
[45:36]
And what that means, or
where that comes from,
[45:38]
really, is that the new platform
is determining people's number
[45:43]
of hours of care per
day to either be lower,
[45:47]
or the new budget model is
less than what it used to be.
[45:53]
And so people are appealing
that, which they certainly
[45:55]
have the right to do that.
[45:57]
So we've spent a lot of time in
15 cases determining appeals.
[46:02]
We have won a majority of those.
[46:05]
And when I say majority,
some recommendations
[46:08]
from the appellate court or
the DHS Human Services judge
[46:11]
will make recommendations for
us to reconsider something.
[46:15]
So they haven't reversed our
decisions or determinations,
[46:19]
they've upheld most of ours.
[46:22]
And then we have just a number--
[46:23]
I think we have one
that's still floating
[46:25]
out there since
February that we're
[46:26]
still waiting to hear back on.
[46:28]
So it's taking
quite a lot longer
[46:31]
to get those determinations
back as well.
[46:35]
Next slide.
[46:37]
Developmental disabilities.
[46:39]
We have seven case managers.
[46:40]
We're currently serving
400 individuals.
[46:43]
The average caseload size is
57, which is quite high for DD,
[46:49]
so it's definitely
creeping up there.
[46:51]
We have two that are designated
to children and families,
[46:55]
so that's that CDCS consumer
directed support model.
[47:00]
And so it's mostly kids living
with parents, guardians,
[47:03]
that sort of caseload.
[47:05]
So we have two case managers
that are delegated to that.
[47:08]
And so their caseloads are
actually a little bit higher.
[47:11]
But when you average
the team out,
[47:13]
it looks to be that they're all
sitting on an average of 57.
[47:18]
Next slide.
[47:22]
Adult protection mental
health intake and nursing.
[47:24]
So in 2024, one of our
nurses retired, Lisa Benson.
[47:29]
These positions are
mostly grant funded,
[47:33]
so we made a choice looking
at the caseload of two nurses.
[47:37]
We had two, one retired,
and decided not to fill back
[47:41]
that position and
use the grant dollars
[47:43]
to hire another adult
mental health case manager.
[47:46]
And that's really
where our need was.
[47:49]
So in a nursing perspective,
our current nurse
[47:51]
is serving 17 individuals, which
includes medication management,
[47:56]
monitoring of side effects,
education, communicating
[48:00]
with doctors, psychiatrists,
psychologists,
[48:03]
things of that nature.
[48:04]
And so far, it's
been really good.
[48:06]
We feel that we really
made the right decision
[48:09]
with that because our case
management numbers were growing.
[48:13]
And we'll talk a little bit
about the complexity of that.
[48:16]
Next slide, please.
[48:17]
MALE SPEAKER: Mr.
Chair, if I could?
[48:18]
MEGAN THOMAS: Yes,
[48:19]
MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
[48:19]
Go ahead.
[48:20]
MALE SPEAKER: Why are
we not using the Public
[48:21]
Health or the
nursing department we
[48:23]
have without duplicating here?
[48:26]
MEGAN THOMAS: So it was
determined a long time ago--
[48:29]
and Deb and I have spent
some time talking about this,
[48:31]
and we just recently
talked about
[48:33]
it when Lisa retired as well--
[48:35]
that before, long
before my time,
[48:39]
it was determined through
SCCBI and/or AMHI and CSP grant
[48:43]
dollars, that we could have
specialized nursing funded
[48:47]
by those grant dollars
embedded in our AMH AP units
[48:53]
that maybe would have
more of, one could argue,
[48:57]
nursing expertise or
mental health expertise,
[49:00]
meeting those people that
were serving under AMH
[49:04]
or at Friendship House.
[49:06]
So that decision was
made a long time ago.
[49:08]
I did reevaluate that.
[49:11]
And I think-- not I think.
[49:13]
I made the determination not
to jump back to Public Health
[49:17]
just because we weren't going
to fill back a second nurse.
[49:21]
So now we're down to one, and
this nurse is working so closely
[49:25]
with AMH case managers, adult
mental health case managers--
[49:29]
because it's their clients
that they're serving--
[49:31]
that to be within the unit for
those quick questions-- like,
[49:35]
hey, did we get a
prescription for this?
[49:38]
Did their medication go up?
[49:39]
When's their next psych-- just
that communication and being
[49:42]
embedded in the world
that really that they're
[49:45]
living and serving.
[49:46]
So we do get support from
Public Health with some
[49:51]
of our injectables
when necessary,
[49:53]
and we're very
thankful for that.
[49:55]
But really, from
my understanding
[49:58]
of the whole
picture, it just lies
[50:00]
back to this is how we
could use those grant
[50:02]
dollars to fund this.
[50:06]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you
for the explanation.
[50:08]
MEGAN THOMAS: Might not be
perfect, but it's working,
[50:12]
and I think someday,
our current nurse isn't
[50:15]
going to be there forever.
[50:17]
And I presume if
Deb is still here,
[50:22]
I would entertain
more conversations
[50:24]
and continue to see how
we can partner in that.
[50:27]
I don't know that we'll
always stay funded.
[50:29]
We're the only county in the
region that uses grant dollars
[50:33]
to fund nursing positions.
[50:34]
So we're the
exception to the rule,
[50:37]
but right now it's working
so don't rock the boat,
[50:41]
is kind of how I feel.
[50:43]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you.
[50:46]
MEGAN THOMAS: Adult protection.
[50:47]
So in 2025, we added a new
adult protection social worker.
[50:52]
So we went from
2 to 3 on a team.
[50:55]
We've opened 261 cases and we've
received 371 adult protection
[51:02]
reports so far.
[51:04]
As far as civil
commitments, we've
[51:06]
had 14 and 36
pre-petition screenings
[51:10]
that have been completed.
[51:11]
So really, what that just
tells us is that the complexity
[51:17]
and acuity of people we're
serving, which you all know
[51:20]
is a lot greater, we're
serving more criminally
[51:23]
involved individuals as well.
[51:25]
So we anticipate to
see those numbers
[51:28]
continue to increase over time.
[51:32]
Case management-wise,
they're serving 150 people.
[51:35]
So we have six case managers.
[51:37]
So the average caseload
size is sitting at about 25.
[51:42]
30 is the average norm per case
manager when talking about AMH.
[51:47]
It's targeted case
management, so these
[51:49]
aren't meant to be long term
case managing, like DD and CADI.
[51:54]
So we really do look
at our caseloads
[51:57]
and we look at when it's
appropriate to close
[52:01]
when successes happen.
[52:02]
What does success
look like for people.
[52:05]
We know that that's different.
[52:07]
And then, as far as
intakes go in 2025,
[52:11]
again, up until completing
this packet a couple weeks ago,
[52:15]
we've completed 44.
[52:17]
So our intake position
works with people
[52:21]
to open to adult mental
health case management.
[52:24]
It works with
children's mental health
[52:27]
to open to case
management there,
[52:29]
as well as our therapy
providers and working to get
[52:33]
people connected to therapy.
[52:36]
MALE SPEAKER: Mr.
Chair, if I could?
[52:38]
MALE SPEAKER: Yes, please.
[52:39]
I'm sorry.
[52:39]
MEGAN THOMAS: No, it's OK.
[52:40]
MALE SPEAKER: My question is,
do we have any responsibility,
[52:44]
are we working up
at the state prison?
[52:47]
MEGAN THOMAS: No.
[52:48]
MALE SPEAKER: We've
nothing to do with--
[52:50]
MEGAN THOMAS: We do not have any
input or anything in the state
[52:54]
prison system for that.
[52:57]
As far as MnCHOICES choices
go, we MnCHOICE a lot
[53:01]
of people at the state prison.
[53:02]
We get a lot of
referrals from there,
[53:05]
and so we'll go in and
complete the assessment
[53:08]
before they're released.
[53:10]
And then our information then
goes to the county in which
[53:14]
they're returning to
after release so they
[53:18]
can connect them to services.
[53:19]
So it kind of starts there,
but not from an intake
[53:22]
per se perspective.
[53:25]
Next slide.
[53:26]
Thank you, Rick.
[53:28]
Again, just a snippet
of Friendship House.
[53:30]
We've had six new members
join so far in 2025,
[53:34]
and then there's
just a little picture
[53:39]
of how many participants--
[53:42]
I tried to blow
this up, you guys.
[53:44]
I couldn't get it any
bigger on the slide--
[53:48]
who participated in what.
[53:49]
And so what we've seen,
not only with new members,
[53:52]
is majority of our
members are actually
[53:55]
participating in most things.
[53:57]
And so our participation numbers
have certainly increased.
[54:01]
And as you all
know, Linda and Dana
[54:03]
do such an amazing job
there, so we're really happy
[54:08]
and our members are happy.
[54:10]
So next slide is
just a little picture
[54:14]
of our most recent additions.
[54:15]
So our lovely new garbage
can that fits in there.
[54:18]
And in the back, I didn't
have along pictures,
[54:22]
but in the background,
you see two hydrangea
[54:24]
bushes and one in the middle.
[54:26]
Those are our most recent
grant-funded additions
[54:29]
to our landscaping,
so continues to grow.
[54:34]
Guardianship.
[54:36]
Key pieces here.
[54:37]
So we're currently
serving 109 individuals.
[54:40]
Five of those are contracted
with Scott County.
[54:43]
We have worked to assist
six individuals successfully
[54:47]
restoring their rights
or moving to a lesser
[54:49]
restrictive alternative, which
is supported decision making.
[54:53]
If you remember from
previous board discussions,
[54:57]
we launched supported decision
making under a grant in 2024.
[55:03]
We've had some staff
fluctuation with that,
[55:06]
but one staff has
stayed consistent,
[55:09]
so we're currently
serving 26 individuals.
[55:12]
We have four in a waiting list.
[55:15]
We've closed 31 cases
so far, and we've
[55:19]
provided 30 trainings in our
community of supported decision
[55:23]
making and how that is really
a benefit to individuals,
[55:27]
and could be a lesser
restrictive alternative as well.
[55:32]
What we've learned along
the way is that it really
[55:34]
keeps the ability of people
to experience autonomy
[55:38]
and independence, and
it really has proven
[55:41]
to be cost effective for
us in counties if they
[55:44]
were to decide to do this.
[55:46]
So of all the individuals
referred to us,
[55:49]
we've either screened
them for guardianship
[55:51]
and referred them
to SDM because they
[55:53]
didn't meet that quite
level of vulnerable adult
[55:56]
or incapacitated.
[55:58]
We also have a screening
team with our courts
[56:01]
and our judicial system, which
we review all cases filed
[56:05]
under in forma pauperis,
which then, we bear
[56:08]
the financial burdens of that.
[56:10]
So we screen those cases that
are filed with the courts,
[56:13]
and we've been able
to recommend supported
[56:15]
decision making to the judges
for those cases as well.
[56:20]
So next slide, Rick.
[56:24]
Oh, sorry, go back.
[56:26]
I thought there was another one.
[56:28]
So as far as that
goes, we continue
[56:30]
to evaluate our current
guardianship caseload
[56:34]
for restoring rights,
supported decision making,
[56:38]
those step down
processes as well.
[56:41]
And right now, our grant is
still funded and in place
[56:44]
until June 30 of 2026.
[56:47]
And I know this legislative
session, we're going to go back
[56:51]
and we're just going to
keep lobbying for this.
[56:55]
We have a lot of support
at the legislative platform
[57:01]
for this type of service,
really looking at guardianship
[57:04]
and trying to keep it on civil
commitment, like as needed.
[57:11]
I mean, you're really, truly are
taking a person's rights away.
[57:14]
And we know that
there's a place for it,
[57:17]
but we've seen a
lot of petitions
[57:19]
where guardianship is
just simply not necessary,
[57:23]
and so part of it's
education as well.
[57:26]
So we meet with
a lot of families
[57:27]
talking about that stuff too.
[57:29]
Now next slide.
[57:32]
Housing support.
[57:33]
So again, I think an
email was shared with you.
[57:36]
And if it wasn't,
I mean, we can.
[57:39]
But again, just reminding
that housing support
[57:41]
is not the same as
housing stabilization.
[57:44]
What we've seen all over
the news with fraud,
[57:46]
that is not what we
administer to downstairs.
[57:49]
We have 106 housing
support providers
[57:53]
with five new providers
that we've worked with
[57:55]
and approved in the last year.
[57:57]
Housing support does require
a lot of time and dedication.
[58:01]
It's operated by a financial
supervisor as well as our CADI
[58:06]
supervisor manages this role.
[58:09]
It really could be its own FTE.
[58:12]
We did apply for a grant this
year to fund a position for this
[58:16]
because of the amount
of work that it entails,
[58:19]
and unfortunately,
we weren't picked.
[58:22]
In fact, DHS shared with us
that there was $9 million
[58:27]
in requests above and
beyond what the legislative
[58:30]
had approved for this.
[58:31]
So they obviously see that
the need is out there as well.
[58:36]
Next slide.
[58:39]
Legislative updates.
[58:40]
So I'm just going to get into
some legislative stuff that
[58:43]
really impacts my division,
and this is where you may
[58:46]
or may not have more questions.
[58:48]
So from a MnCHOICES perspective,
our timelines change.
[58:52]
So we went from 20 calendar
days to 20 business days
[58:56]
from the time of a request.
[58:58]
So when somebody
requests a MnCHOICES
[59:00]
and we complete an
intake with them,
[59:02]
we have 20 business days
to complete that MnCHOICES
[59:05]
assessment with them now.
[59:06]
Sometimes, it's phone tag
and scheduling conflicts,
[59:11]
and you might get outside
those 20 business days.
[59:14]
But I mean, that's
kind of natural
[59:16]
when you're dealing
with people and trying
[59:18]
to get things scheduled.
[59:20]
Assessors may provide up to
four remote reassessments
[59:24]
consecutively, but the
fifth one must be in person,
[59:27]
so that's something new.
[59:29]
We can now receive
a verbal attestation
[59:32]
to replace assessment
signatures,
[59:34]
but we make it our practice
downstairs to always try and get
[59:38]
a physical signature for whether
it's consent for services
[59:42]
or the consent for
MnCHOICES release
[59:44]
of information,
things like that.
[59:47]
But we now know that
if we have it in email
[59:50]
or if we have a verbal
attestation, we document that
[59:53]
and that can replace
the physical signatures.
[59:56]
And then now,
individuals can attest
[59:59]
to unchanged needs for two
consecutive reassessments.
[1:00:02]
So what that just means is
that if I have an assessment
[1:00:04]
this month and next
year comes around,
[1:00:07]
and I say absolutely
nothing's changed,
[1:00:09]
all the things are
same, the assessor
[1:00:11]
can continue with the
previous year's assessment
[1:00:14]
results and information.
[1:00:15]
You can do that
twice until someone
[1:00:18]
technically has to really
sit down and complete
[1:00:21]
an assessment with you.
[1:00:23]
So I would love to say that
lightens the MnCHOICE assessor's
[1:00:28]
caseload and responsibilities,
but it doesn't because CFSS
[1:00:32]
has actually quadrupled the
work for them in that regard.
[1:00:36]
So, next slide.
[1:00:41]
DHS is working on a dashboard
of agencies assessment data.
[1:00:46]
We're really looking
forward to that.
[1:00:48]
MnCHOICES is never
really, by platform,
[1:00:51]
been able to provide us
concrete data or numbers.
[1:00:54]
We've had to collect
that on our own.
[1:00:56]
They're now valid for
365 days, which is huge,
[1:01:00]
so we're not going out and
having to redo assessments
[1:01:03]
while we're waiting.
[1:01:04]
If someone's MA took
so long to approve,
[1:01:07]
or if their determination of
certification of disability
[1:01:13]
has taken longer, we would have
to go out and redo assessments
[1:01:16]
for those timelines.
[1:01:17]
Now they're good for 365.
[1:01:20]
This is probably
the biggest impact.
[1:01:23]
So starting in January of
2027, MnCHOICES will no longer
[1:01:27]
be reimbursed by a time study.
[1:01:29]
It's going to have a
flat rate reimbursement
[1:01:32]
for assessments completed.
[1:01:34]
And so they're going to be
utilizing the later portion
[1:01:39]
of '25 here this fall and
all of '26 to, I guess,
[1:01:43]
determine what that flat rate is
going to look like for counties
[1:01:47]
for the reimbursement phase.
[1:01:48]
So it will be a
lot less than what
[1:01:52]
we're getting through the
time study, so stay tuned.
[1:01:57]
Next slide.
[1:02:01]
As most of you know-- and thank
you so much for your advocation
[1:02:05]
and your platforms--
but the replacement
[1:02:07]
and modernization
of SSIS was huge,
[1:02:11]
in the amount of $35 million.
[1:02:13]
Priority admissions,
again, I'm sure you heard
[1:02:16]
many, many conversations-- not
just for me, but from others--
[1:02:20]
about the 48 hour rule,
the bed capacity shortage,
[1:02:25]
things of that nature.
[1:02:26]
So $34 million was directed
to the Miller building
[1:02:30]
for bed expansion, with
an additional $20 million
[1:02:33]
for future administrative work.
[1:02:36]
And then, last
legislative session,
[1:02:39]
there was a reprieve to counties
for mentally ill and dangerous
[1:02:43]
that were awaiting
placement from one
[1:02:45]
state facility to another.
[1:02:46]
That has now sunsetted and
counties don't get that.
[1:02:50]
We never had a scenario
where we were able to reap
[1:02:55]
the benefits of that reprieve.
[1:02:56]
We didn't have anybody
in that situation.
[1:02:59]
MALE SPEAKER: So,
excuse me, Megan?
[1:03:00]
Could you just
explain for all of us
[1:03:03]
the 48 hour rule, what exactly
that is, so people understand
[1:03:08]
that a little better?
[1:03:08]
MEGAN THOMAS: Well, I
encourage Brian to chime in.
[1:03:10]
But basically, in a
nutshell, the 48 hour rule
[1:03:13]
was that if we had somebody
that was brought into jail
[1:03:16]
who was mentally ill--
[1:03:18]
because that's not
the place for them,
[1:03:20]
it's not appropriate that
they should a new placement,
[1:03:24]
and they should be
released to a more
[1:03:26]
appropriate placement
treatment facility, whatever,
[1:03:29]
within 48 hours.
[1:03:31]
That's pretty much
it in a nutshell.
[1:03:33]
Would you add anything?
[1:03:36]
MALE SPEAKER: No, that's what
it is at its basic level.
[1:03:38]
MEGAN THOMAS: Yeah.
[1:03:39]
MALE SPEAKER: So
you have 48 hours
[1:03:41]
to deal with this individual?
[1:03:42]
MEGAN THOMAS: That was
the intent of the statute.
[1:03:45]
It has since then been paused
and relooked at because there's
[1:03:50]
nowhere to put them.
[1:03:51]
I mean, bed capacity
was, like, next to none.
[1:03:54]
So they languished in jails.
[1:03:57]
We did have an individual that
unfortunately spent 92 days
[1:04:01]
in our jail before he was
able to get into St. Peter
[1:04:05]
and be appropriately treated.
[1:04:07]
So we were all fighting
the same fight.
[1:04:10]
We know that jail is not where
people with mental health
[1:04:14]
needs and symptoms should be.
[1:04:16]
They should be treated as
humans and seek the treatment
[1:04:19]
that they deserve.
[1:04:21]
MALE SPEAKER: So right now, in
your opinion, is this working?
[1:04:24]
I mean, are we able to
accomplish that in 48 hours?
[1:04:26]
MEGAN THOMAS: Oh, no.
[1:04:27]
No, we're far from it.
[1:04:28]
And I think until, like, this
Miller building expansion
[1:04:33]
and until we start
lifting places
[1:04:36]
in more capacity
for people to go
[1:04:39]
to have the treatment
that they need,
[1:04:42]
we'll never meet the
48 hour rule, no.
[1:04:46]
MALE SPEAKER: So we have a
rule that we can't achieve,
[1:04:48]
basically?
[1:04:48]
MEGAN THOMAS: Yep, pretty much.
[1:04:50]
MALE SPEAKER: OK, thank you.
[1:04:52]
MEGAN THOMAS: Next slide.
[1:04:55]
Competency attainment.
[1:04:57]
So that was something that was
lifted where counties are going
[1:05:00]
to have to contribute to
the cost of examination or
[1:05:03]
competency attainment programs.
[1:05:05]
This really hasn't
lifted-lifted per se,
[1:05:09]
so we don't know what this
is going to look like.
[1:05:13]
As we get further into budget
discussions and our 2026 budget,
[1:05:18]
we did put a line item
in our budget for this
[1:05:21]
because we have to, and we're
going to bear responsibility
[1:05:24]
for this at some point.
[1:05:26]
The state is just still working
on getting this out there,
[1:05:31]
as a better word, maybe, to say.
[1:05:35]
Other legislative
things, so there's
[1:05:38]
a task force that's been
lifted in waiver, reimagine,
[1:05:41]
and long term
services and supports,
[1:05:43]
just looking at how to reduce
cost in long term services
[1:05:47]
and supports building
greater efficiencies.
[1:05:49]
They limited rate exceptions.
[1:05:51]
So really, what this means is
that providers could request
[1:05:55]
a rate exception for people that
had needs above and beyond maybe
[1:06:05]
the norm, might be
the best word to use,
[1:06:08]
and so they would make that
request to the counties.
[1:06:11]
We would look at the
assessment and all of the needs
[1:06:15]
that the person
reflects that they have,
[1:06:17]
and then really
pass it on to DHS.
[1:06:20]
So we're not approving or
denying the rate exceptions
[1:06:23]
for these providers, DHS is.
[1:06:26]
So they really have
reined that back in.
[1:06:29]
I don't think they knew
when they lifted this what
[1:06:32]
a pandemonium it was going
to be because really,
[1:06:37]
right now, as it stands,
they very rarely get denied.
[1:06:41]
So we just have to make sure
the request from the provider
[1:06:44]
is valid.
[1:06:46]
If it's not, we work
with the provider
[1:06:49]
to revise the request
so it's actually
[1:06:55]
accurate and appropriate.
[1:06:56]
We won't send it to DHS
if it's not accurate.
[1:07:00]
So that's basically our role
in it from a county standpoint.
[1:07:05]
Next slide.
[1:07:09]
This is huge.
[1:07:10]
There's been significant
provider fees and licensing
[1:07:14]
requirements changes
that are going
[1:07:16]
to come January 1 here in 2026.
[1:07:18]
So anyone who is
adult foster care,
[1:07:21]
child foster care, a community
residential setting--
[1:07:25]
so a group home--
[1:07:26]
or family adult
day services, will
[1:07:29]
now be expected to pay an
annual licensing fee of $2,100.
[1:07:35]
Previously, it was
$500 upon licensing
[1:07:39]
and then every two
years after that.
[1:07:43]
So it's not just the AFC
annual licensing fee,
[1:07:46]
so a provider could have that.
[1:07:48]
And they could have a 245d
license with Department of Human
[1:07:52]
Services, and they
will also have
[1:07:54]
to pay $2,100 a year for that.
[1:07:57]
So they could take a
$4,200 hit to maintain
[1:08:02]
both their licenses on an annual
basis, and that's per site.
[1:08:06]
So when you have
providers like LSS
[1:08:11]
Kennedy, which is now
Harry Meyering Center,
[1:08:14]
that have multiple sites--
[1:08:16]
13, 14 group homes, nine--
[1:08:19]
that's per site,
that's a huge hit
[1:08:21]
to our foster care providers.
[1:08:23]
That is going to be devastating.
[1:08:26]
We have one provider--
so let me rephrase.
[1:08:28]
We have 76 providers in Rice
County that are licensed
[1:08:31]
in one capacity or another.
[1:08:33]
We're still getting
information from DHS
[1:08:36]
on this whole payment thing.
[1:08:38]
But we out of the 76 providers
that are going to take a hit
[1:08:42]
of $2,100 a year or $4,200
annually per site that they
[1:08:47]
have, we have one family adult
foster care provider that
[1:08:52]
doesn't take any waiver
funding for the two
[1:08:55]
individuals that she serves.
[1:08:57]
So she's funded through housing
supports and some other means.
[1:09:01]
So for a provider like
that, it's pretty gigantic.
[1:09:06]
I'm nervous.
[1:09:08]
I'm worried about-- we've lost
providers and bed capacity
[1:09:12]
within our residential
settings already
[1:09:14]
the last few years just due
to staffing complications.
[1:09:19]
I'm afraid to see what
these fees happen.
[1:09:23]
So as far as the fees go, DHS
will be collecting all the fees
[1:09:27]
from the providers
on an annual basis,
[1:09:29]
and then 50% of those
fees are going to be
[1:09:32]
kicked back to the county.
[1:09:34]
So we could, in more detail,
really look at our provider
[1:09:39]
lists and figure
it out and really
[1:09:41]
grind the numbers out to see
what that looks like for us.
[1:09:44]
But with so much
information kind
[1:09:47]
of still coming out
statutorily about these,
[1:09:49]
I haven't done that.
[1:09:50]
I haven't done that yet.
[1:09:51]
So I will soon when I
feel comfortable that this
[1:09:55]
is set in stone.
[1:09:57]
Any questions on that?
[1:10:00]
MALE SPEAKER: So,
Megan-- yeah, I do.
[1:10:01]
Megan, if you're going
to hit these providers
[1:10:04]
with this big fee,
this annual fee,
[1:10:08]
they're going to want
to recap that money
[1:10:10]
somehow with their services
that they're providing, right?
[1:10:13]
Or how is that--
[1:10:15]
MEGAN THOMAS: There's no
way that we can offset that.
[1:10:18]
We've already looked at it.
[1:10:20]
It's impossible, and we can't--
[1:10:23]
there's some actually
statutory language I just
[1:10:26]
looked at this morning that--
[1:10:28]
because I thought, OK.
[1:10:29]
Well, if we get 50%,
can a portion of that
[1:10:33]
be offset back to the provider?
[1:10:35]
We can't even do that.
[1:10:36]
I mean, there's language
in there that suggests
[1:10:38]
that can't even happen.
[1:10:39]
MALE SPEAKER: Well,
it seems to me
[1:10:40]
it's going to be
obvious that we're
[1:10:42]
going to lose some providers.
[1:10:43]
MEGAN THOMAS: I think we will.
[1:10:44]
I think it's very possible.
[1:10:45]
We have some really dedicated
people in our community--
[1:10:48]
and I'm thankful for
that-- that truly just
[1:10:51]
believe in caring for people.
[1:10:54]
But there are people
that maybe just
[1:10:56]
can't financially sustain this
and there's no way to fix it.
[1:11:03]
MALE SPEAKER: So if you're
a provider, if you have one
[1:11:07]
resident, or if
you have 10, you're
[1:11:09]
still considered a provider?
[1:11:11]
Is that how it works?
[1:11:12]
MEGAN THOMAS: Yeah, it's how
many they're licensed for.
[1:11:16]
So this particular provider that
doesn't take waiver funding,
[1:11:20]
she has two people living in her
home, so she's licensed for two,
[1:11:24]
where most of our corporate
sites are licensed for four.
[1:11:29]
It's not based on the number of
people, it's based on the site.
[1:11:33]
So if you're a single
family foster care provider,
[1:11:38]
that's your site.
[1:11:39]
That's your home.
[1:11:40]
You have one.
[1:11:42]
Like I said, some of
these bigger agencies
[1:11:44]
that have multiple corporate
sites throughout our community,
[1:11:48]
it's per site.
[1:11:52]
MALE SPEAKER: Well, it'd be
interesting to see what happens.
[1:11:55]
MEGAN THOMAS: Yeah.
[1:11:57]
Anything else?
[1:11:58]
Nope?
[1:12:01]
So I've already shared that.
[1:12:03]
You can skip to the next slide.
[1:12:07]
It is?
[1:12:07]
Oh, see?
[1:12:09]
Great.
[1:12:09]
Perfect.
[1:12:10]
I tried really hard to
just get through that.
[1:12:13]
I know it's a lot.
[1:12:15]
Any other questions, then?
[1:12:19]
No?
[1:12:20]
MALE SPEAKER: Well,
Megan, thank you
[1:12:21]
for giving us a little
insight into your world
[1:12:24]
and what you're doing, so
appreciate your efforts.
[1:12:27]
MEGAN THOMAS: All
right, thank you.
[1:12:31]
MALE SPEAKER: Commissioners,
you all doing good?
[1:12:34]
Very good.
[1:12:35]
We have Public Health and
nursing with Deb Purfeerst.
[1:12:39]
I don't see-- oh, there's Deb.
[1:12:43]
DEB PURFEERST: Good morning.
[1:12:44]
MALE SPEAKER: Good morning.
[1:12:45]
DEB PURFEERST: You guys need
to stand up and stretch,
[1:12:47]
or you're all good?
[1:12:49]
MALE SPEAKER: I just
asked these guys.
[1:12:50]
DEB PURFEERST: You're good.
[1:12:52]
There's going to be two updates
today from Public Health.
[1:12:56]
The first is on our safe
roads coalition and TCD work.
[1:13:01]
So the Minnesota
Department of Public Safety
[1:13:04]
provides funding for
traffic safety coalitions
[1:13:07]
to address and prevent traffic
deaths and serious injuries.
[1:13:11]
Public Health serves
as the fiscal host
[1:13:14]
and the grant
manager for the Rice
[1:13:16]
County Safe Roads Coalition.
[1:13:19]
The coalition began in
2006 with Kathy Cooper
[1:13:24]
serving as the coordinator.
[1:13:27]
The mission of the coalition is
to move Rice County towards zero
[1:13:31]
deaths and serious injury.
[1:13:33]
So with me today, I
have Jessica Schleck.
[1:13:37]
Jessica is our regional safe
roads coalition coordinator.
[1:13:42]
She'll start the presentation
and talk about some
[1:13:45]
of the state and
regional work being done.
[1:13:48]
And then we have
Kathy Cooper here.
[1:13:50]
Kathy is our Rice
County coordinator,
[1:13:53]
so she'll be sharing
with you some of the data
[1:13:56]
and local work being done.
[1:13:58]
So I will turn it
over to my partners.
[1:14:01]
JESSICA SCHLECK: Thank you.
[1:14:03]
I talk fast, so we should
get you right back on track.
[1:14:06]
So as she said, my name
is Jessica Schleck.
[1:14:08]
I am the Southeast TCD
Regional Coordinator.
[1:14:11]
I have had the privilege of
working with Kathy for 17 years,
[1:14:14]
I think, or something, so lucky.
[1:14:16]
But the statewide TCD
program was launched in 2003
[1:14:19]
when we were seeing a big uptick
in traffic-related fatalities.
[1:14:22]
So 655 people died on
our roads that year.
[1:14:25]
So it was a program that
was created by the Minnesota
[1:14:27]
Department of Public Safety,
Transportation and Health
[1:14:30]
as a deliberate,
interdisciplinary
[1:14:32]
approach to traffic safety.
[1:14:33]
Basically, they just realized
we needed to not only work
[1:14:36]
with the state stuff, we needed
to pull in local organizations
[1:14:39]
to help.
[1:14:39]
So the magic of this program
is we are 20 plus years in
[1:14:42]
and we have so many
partners across the state.
[1:14:46]
So TCD's vision.
[1:14:48]
Hopefully, you've
heard this before,
[1:14:49]
but to reduce fatalities
and serious injuries
[1:14:52]
on Minnesota roads
to get to zero.
[1:14:55]
You can go to the next.
[1:14:56]
And the mission explains
just how we do that.
[1:14:59]
You can go to the next one.
[1:15:01]
It's by collaborating.
[1:15:03]
So the TCD program focuses
on those four strategic areas
[1:15:06]
to reduce crashes, enforcement,
education, engineering, EMS,
[1:15:10]
and of course that
fifth E, which
[1:15:11]
is everyone, because
everyone shares our roads.
[1:15:14]
So, next one.
[1:15:16]
So over the years, TCD
regional partnerships
[1:15:18]
have been established in
eight geographical areas
[1:15:20]
throughout the state.
[1:15:21]
They're led by a regional TCD
coordinators such as myself.
[1:15:24]
Each has a local
steering committee
[1:15:26]
made up of traffic safety
stakeholders from that region.
[1:15:29]
These are led by MnDOT
district engineer
[1:15:31]
and a State Patrol captain.
[1:15:33]
Also included on the map are two
state program TCD coordinators.
[1:15:37]
We just recently added
a communications leader,
[1:15:41]
so hopefully, that will help
us push out our messaging.
[1:15:44]
There's also four law
enforcement liaisons
[1:15:46]
who work with all levels
of law enforcement agencies
[1:15:48]
across the state, and three
child passenger safety
[1:15:51]
liaisons who make
sure our kiddos
[1:15:53]
are in those right car seats.
[1:15:56]
Let's go to the next one.
[1:15:57]
So right now,
there are currently
[1:15:59]
six funded and one
unfunded active
[1:16:01]
TCD safe roads
coalitions in our region.
[1:16:04]
So our educational
efforts only improve
[1:16:06]
as more of these
coalitions are established.
[1:16:08]
But as Kathy may talk about,
they have to apply for a grant.
[1:16:11]
And if they don't
receive the grant,
[1:16:13]
they don't get to do the work
or aren't able to do the work.
[1:16:17]
So, next slide.
[1:16:19]
So each of these coalitions
bring together community members
[1:16:22]
from the five E's to
address areas of concern
[1:16:25]
for their specific
county or community.
[1:16:27]
So crash data is reviewed
and counties develop a plan
[1:16:30]
for addressing these crashes.
[1:16:32]
They also implement
activities and best practices
[1:16:35]
to make the greatest impact on
reducing those serious and fatal
[1:16:38]
injury crashes.
[1:16:39]
So the coalitions
also assist law
[1:16:41]
enforcement during the
enforcement periods
[1:16:43]
with educational efforts.
[1:16:45]
So they really are boots
on the ground doing all
[1:16:48]
the work, very important work.
[1:16:50]
Next slide.
[1:16:52]
So these are just a few of the
focus areas that we work on.
[1:16:55]
Kathy will talk more
about Rice County efforts
[1:16:57]
when she steps up.
[1:16:58]
But if you have any
questions about those,
[1:17:00]
you can feel free
to let me know.
[1:17:03]
So, next one.
[1:17:04]
So this is just a
quick glance at some
[1:17:06]
of the regional successes
over the past year.
[1:17:08]
I'm not going to
read them to you,
[1:17:09]
don't worry, but you should
have those on your own screen.
[1:17:13]
If you have any
questions, let me know.
[1:17:14]
But I just want to
point out there's
[1:17:15]
a bunch that really
started in Rice County,
[1:17:18]
like Joyride, for instance.
[1:17:19]
Joyride Rice County
was the first county
[1:17:22]
to implement Joyride.
[1:17:23]
They were the first County
to work on the driver's
[1:17:25]
license for all programs.
[1:17:27]
You can add to this if you
want, but there's so many things
[1:17:30]
that Rice County has really
implemented and kicked
[1:17:32]
off for the whole state.
[1:17:33]
So, next one.
[1:17:37]
So since TCD started, together,
we have saved more than 4,700
[1:17:41]
lives, which is 220 per year.
[1:17:43]
So that is a great work, but--
[1:17:45]
next slide-- but there's
a lot of work to be done.
[1:17:49]
So as of September
12, last Friday, there
[1:17:52]
were 253 fatalities
on Minnesota roads,
[1:17:55]
compared to 310 at
this time last year.
[1:17:56]
Well, that number, I just
got it right as I walked up,
[1:17:59]
and it is 261.
[1:18:03]
So that means that-- how
many people is that died
[1:18:06]
from Friday until today?
[1:18:08]
So that's a big number
for our weekend.
[1:18:11]
So there's a lot of work to be
done to date in Rice County--
[1:18:15]
or, I'll just let you go.
[1:18:19]
KATHY COOPER:
Thank you, Jessica.
[1:18:22]
I'm going to talk a
little bit about our Rice
[1:18:25]
County crash facts.
[1:18:27]
One of the requirements
of the grant,
[1:18:29]
the TCD grant that
we receive, is
[1:18:31]
that we have a fatal and
serious injury review committee,
[1:18:35]
and we are required
to meet quarterly.
[1:18:38]
So we track crashes in Rice
County with the help of our law
[1:18:44]
enforcement and other
partners, and then we
[1:18:47]
meet quarterly to review them.
[1:18:49]
We're not reviewing them to
assign blame or anything,
[1:18:53]
but what we're looking at is
why did that crash happen.
[1:18:57]
What are the trends?
[1:18:58]
What can we do to prevent
that crash, that type of crash
[1:19:03]
from happening again?
[1:19:05]
So the crash facts report that
I have in this presentation
[1:19:13]
is incomplete.
[1:19:14]
We're still working on
it, waiting for some data
[1:19:19]
to complete it, but it's a
report from 2020 to 2024.
[1:19:24]
And you'll see that there was
120 total serious and fatal
[1:19:31]
injury crashes in Rice County.
[1:19:34]
We average about 750 crashes in
Rice County every year, so two
[1:19:42]
a day--
[1:19:43]
two a day.
[1:19:45]
And that's been pretty
consistent throughout the years.
[1:19:50]
In 2025, we know that
we have already had--
[1:19:56]
question?
[1:19:57]
MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, go ahead.
[1:19:58]
MALE SPEAKER: Are
you including--
[1:19:59]
is this outside the
cities, county-based?
[1:20:02]
Or is this including
some of the city?
[1:20:05]
KATHY COOPER: It includes
the cities, the counties.
[1:20:07]
So Northfield, Faribault,
Lonsdale, and then countywide.
[1:20:14]
MALE SPEAKER: So the
cities are included?
[1:20:16]
KATHY COOPER: Yes, the
cities are included, yes.
[1:20:19]
But it's all broken out,
so the reports that we do
[1:20:23]
are by city and then by the
county, and then a total.
[1:20:31]
MALE SPEAKER: My
other question is,
[1:20:32]
do you guys track the
location of these accidents
[1:20:36]
for interception?
[1:20:37]
KATHY COOPER: Yep, yep.
[1:20:39]
Dennis Luebbe with Rice
County Highway Department,
[1:20:42]
he's one of the members on
the fatal review committee.
[1:20:47]
And he'll look at those
trends and the locations.
[1:20:55]
And a lot of times, he
goes right out to the site
[1:20:58]
and to see, do we have
proper signage there?
[1:21:02]
What's going on here?
[1:21:04]
He's a very important part
of our fatal review committee
[1:21:07]
because he can provide
that perspective
[1:21:10]
and he can get things done.
[1:21:12]
If a motorcycle is going off
of a curve on a certain road,
[1:21:19]
he'll go out and
check that curve.
[1:21:21]
And do we have signage to
alert the motorcycle rider
[1:21:26]
that there's a curve coming up?
[1:21:29]
And curves are hard
for motorcycles.
[1:21:33]
We've got data that
shows that as well.
[1:21:36]
So any more questions
on the '20 to '24
[1:21:40]
or the fatal review committee?
[1:21:44]
In 2025, already to
date, we've had four
[1:21:51]
fatal crashes in Rice County.
[1:21:53]
And the one thing that
we have noticed already
[1:21:57]
and have recorded is that
all four of the fatalities
[1:22:01]
were over 65.
[1:22:03]
So that's telling
us right there,
[1:22:07]
we need to focus on
our older drivers.
[1:22:10]
And so we wrote some things
into our 2026 grant application
[1:22:18]
with that in mind.
[1:22:20]
One of the things that
we did this past year
[1:22:23]
is called Car Fit.
[1:22:24]
And we had a Car Fit clinic
in Northfield in May.
[1:22:28]
We're trying to bring it
to Faribault. We're hoping
[1:22:30]
that the senior centers
will take it up and do it
[1:22:34]
as a regular clinic, but
that's to help older people fit
[1:22:39]
in their cars so that they're
driving more safely, that they
[1:22:45]
can see out of their mirrors
on the side, their rear view,
[1:22:49]
that they're at the right
height and the right distance
[1:22:52]
from the steering wheel.
[1:22:54]
So lots of work to do there.
[1:22:58]
And then there's been 15 serious
injury crashes already in 2025.
[1:23:05]
And four of those were
with older drivers.
[1:23:08]
So we'll be meeting
for our fourth quarter
[1:23:12]
fatal review committee at the
end of the month, September 29.
[1:23:17]
And we'll finish up
this crash facts report,
[1:23:20]
and then we'll get it out to
you so that you have the data.
[1:23:25]
What else, here?
[1:23:26]
Oh, TCD work in Rice County.
[1:23:29]
So every year, we have to apply
for the grant around again,
[1:23:34]
and we do that
with Public Health.
[1:23:36]
Deb helps write that
grant, and there's
[1:23:40]
two grants that are awarded.
[1:23:42]
One is the education grant
through Public Health,
[1:23:47]
and then local law enforcement
also writes a grant
[1:23:51]
for extra enforcement help.
[1:23:57]
And that kind of
rotates through the law
[1:23:59]
enforcement and Rice County.
[1:24:01]
So in this year,
2025, Northfield
[1:24:05]
has been the coordinator
for the enforcement grant.
[1:24:08]
Lonsdale wrote it for 2026.
[1:24:10]
We're still waiting
to hear about that
[1:24:13]
and hoping that
we get that grant.
[1:24:16]
The next slide, please.
[1:24:19]
Our Safe Roads Coalition
members has been pretty
[1:24:23]
steady over the past years.
[1:24:26]
They are wonderful members.
[1:24:29]
I can't tell you how
much support that they
[1:24:32]
provide to the coalition.
[1:24:34]
Anything I ask of them,
they step right up.
[1:24:38]
They may not always be at our
meetings, but I can call on them
[1:24:43]
and they provide
for traffic safety
[1:24:49]
activities in Rice County.
[1:24:51]
Next slide, please.
[1:24:54]
Some of the local efforts
this grant period,
[1:24:59]
we sponsor or provide a
Thanksgiving Eve DWI kickoff
[1:25:04]
this past fall Thanksgiving.
[1:25:08]
It was held at the
Northfield police
[1:25:09]
department on the Wednesday
before Thanksgiving.
[1:25:14]
All law enforcement are invited.
[1:25:17]
The county attorney comes.
[1:25:19]
Media is there.
[1:25:21]
Minnesotans For Safe Driving
and myself are there.
[1:25:26]
We also recognize
the law enforcement
[1:25:30]
officer in the county that
has the most DWI citations.
[1:25:35]
So last year, there were
two officers that tied
[1:25:39]
and they're given a
certificate of appreciation.
[1:25:44]
Nancy Johnson with Minnesotans
For Safe Driving and I
[1:25:48]
provide pizza for the officers.
[1:25:51]
And sometimes, there's
an impact speaker.
[1:25:56]
The County attorney will speak.
[1:25:59]
It's a great time
to get together
[1:26:01]
and thank them for their work.
[1:26:05]
They're going out
on Thanksgiving Eve,
[1:26:09]
when they would probably rather
be home with their families,
[1:26:13]
helping to stuff that turkey
and make pies for the next day,
[1:26:17]
but they're out on the road
to help ensure our safety.
[1:26:20]
So that's a huge event for us.
[1:26:23]
This last year in
Northfield too,
[1:26:26]
we always try and do a poster
and some media coverage, a PSA.
[1:26:33]
And Kevin Tussing was able to
bring in the Jesse James Gang
[1:26:41]
to help us do that.
[1:26:42]
And we had Sam Temple from
the City of Northfield
[1:26:48]
communications department,
and Susie Rook.
[1:26:52]
They were both there taking
photos of the James gang.
[1:26:56]
All our law enforcement
were in red cowboy hats,
[1:27:00]
Santa hats, cowboy Santa hats.
[1:27:02]
And Susie did a fabulous
poster, and then Sam Temple
[1:27:07]
did a PSA that we were
able to put on the city
[1:27:10]
web pages and Facebook.
[1:27:12]
So we really try and
get it out there.
[1:27:15]
We try not to be all
doom and gloom about it,
[1:27:20]
but raise awareness.
[1:27:22]
This is important.
[1:27:24]
This is serious.
[1:27:24]
This is life and death
matters, so huge event.
[1:27:29]
And then the Car Fit safety
clinic, I spoke about.
[1:27:34]
We partnered with
Faribault's Double
[1:27:36]
Impact for a traffic safety
week at Bethlehem Academy.
[1:27:40]
Double Impact led the charge
and it was a great event
[1:27:47]
at Bethlehem Academy.
[1:27:48]
It was for the sophomore
and senior students.
[1:27:51]
They brought in the drunk carts
with the fatal vision goggles,
[1:27:55]
and we've actually had those for
the county board in the past,
[1:27:59]
and a little course
out in the parking lot
[1:28:02]
where you've had to put the
goggles on and drive through it.
[1:28:06]
So they brought that
into the high school.
[1:28:08]
It was very successful.
[1:28:10]
And then on Wednesday, there
was a mini mock crash there.
[1:28:14]
Again, law enforcement and
Double Impact, fire department,
[1:28:19]
they handled that.
[1:28:20]
They brought in a
helicopter, landed.
[1:28:23]
So that was another huge event.
[1:28:25]
They had an assembly
at the high school,
[1:28:28]
and we brought in a
crash car that was
[1:28:31]
posted on campus before prom.
[1:28:35]
We also partnered
or participated,
[1:28:40]
I guess, at the Safe
Summer Kickoff in Faribault
[1:28:43]
on the last day of school.
[1:28:45]
We brought in the
seat belt convincer
[1:28:47]
and we also had a crash
car there as well.
[1:28:50]
The belt convincer
was a lot of fun.
[1:28:53]
We get a lot of teens that
take a ride on the seat belt
[1:28:59]
convincer, and then they can
put their name in a drawing
[1:29:02]
for a Kwik Trip card.
[1:29:04]
A lot of little kids
want to ride it,
[1:29:08]
but we set an age limit.
[1:29:09]
You have to be 14, but the
little kids watch and we always
[1:29:14]
ask their parents to take a
ride since their child can't
[1:29:19]
show them what
it's all about, so
[1:29:22]
another great education piece.
[1:29:25]
And then, Joyride was
provided at the Defeat
[1:29:30]
of Jesse James Days.
[1:29:32]
Again, many, many,
many, many thanks
[1:29:35]
to the committee and the
Northfield police department who
[1:29:38]
provided the funding for
the epic shuttle and driver.
[1:29:43]
It ran all three nights.
[1:29:47]
She was extremely busy on
Saturday night, which is usual.
[1:29:52]
But the thing that struck
me this year was the riders
[1:29:56]
were so appreciative.
[1:29:58]
On and on, and on,
thank you so much.
[1:30:02]
Northfield is wonderful to
provide this kind of service.
[1:30:06]
I wasn't going to
comment until I saw this.
[1:30:09]
So that was really, really
exciting to hear that.
[1:30:13]
And I didn't see any
public intoxication,
[1:30:19]
and that was really good too.
[1:30:21]
People were having fun
and being responsible.
[1:30:24]
So I think Joyride, even though
the rider numbers aren't huge,
[1:30:31]
it provides a lot of
education and awareness
[1:30:34]
on don't drink and drive in our
community during this event.
[1:30:39]
There still was a few
DWIs, but there were
[1:30:43]
no crashes, so that was good.
[1:30:46]
And then, I mentioned the
quarterly fatal and serious
[1:30:50]
injury committee
reviews that we do.
[1:30:55]
We also have presentations
at driver's ed classes
[1:31:00]
related to alcohol and drugs.
[1:31:02]
I'm a speaker.
[1:31:05]
Public Health also has a speaker
that does cannabis education
[1:31:10]
at driver's ed and
in the health classes
[1:31:14]
at the public high school,
so that's really good.
[1:31:21]
And then we always support the
enforcement calendar with media
[1:31:25]
releases and Facebook posts.
[1:31:27]
And that's thanks
to Susie Rook here
[1:31:31]
at Rice County Communications.
[1:31:33]
She's a great partner and
she does a lot of work for us
[1:31:37]
on that, so we appreciate it.
[1:31:39]
And then, next slide, please.
[1:31:43]
You'll see just some photos.
[1:31:45]
The Car Fit clinic.
[1:31:46]
There's the Jesse James
Gang poster that we put out.
[1:31:51]
The PSA can be found on the
City of Northfield website.
[1:31:55]
I think it's also
posted with Rice County.
[1:31:59]
There's the crash car that
we had at Bethlehem Academy
[1:32:03]
and at Safe Summer Kickoff.
[1:32:06]
And then, I forgot
to thank College
[1:32:09]
City Beverage for the banners.
[1:32:12]
They print all the banners and
posters for the Joyride event,
[1:32:18]
and they really did a
fabulous job this year too.
[1:32:22]
I went in the
entertainment tent and they
[1:32:24]
had banners on the outside.
[1:32:26]
They had banners on the inside.
[1:32:27]
They had posters all over.
[1:32:30]
For the first time, I had
riders coming to the pick
[1:32:36]
up location with
tickets filled out.
[1:32:40]
Every year, I print
500 tickets and
[1:32:43]
distribute them
to the local bars
[1:32:45]
and in the entertainment tent.
[1:32:47]
And I've never had
anybody come to the pick
[1:32:50]
up location with their ticket,
so I always have a handful.
[1:32:54]
They have to put their
address on the ticket.
[1:32:57]
That's the only reason that they
need a ticket, is so that we can
[1:33:01]
have their address
for the driver,
[1:33:03]
so the driver knows
where to take them.
[1:33:05]
So anyhow, that
was an improvement.
[1:33:10]
So there, again, you'll
see our Rice County Safe
[1:33:15]
Roads Coalition mission, to move
Rice County toward zero deaths.
[1:33:20]
We've been close.
[1:33:22]
We've had some years
with only two fatalities,
[1:33:25]
and that's encouraging.
[1:33:27]
And we're going to
get there, I know it.
[1:33:30]
And then, if you
want to get involved,
[1:33:35]
come to the Safe Roads Coalition
meetings or support us.
[1:33:40]
We also attend the Southeast
TCD Steering Committee.
[1:33:45]
And then, attend the state
conference this year.
[1:33:50]
It's in Prior Lake,
October 21 to 22,
[1:33:54]
and we have had county
board commissioners
[1:33:57]
attend in the past.
[1:33:59]
We've had the county
attorney and law enforcement,
[1:34:02]
lots of good folks.
[1:34:04]
And it's a great event, a lot
of workshops to choose from.
[1:34:09]
And then, you'll see on the
last page, our regional posters.
[1:34:16]
So every year, the
region, Jessica,
[1:34:20]
will organize a photo shoot
of all law enforcement
[1:34:25]
and first responders
for a photo shoot
[1:34:29]
that we can distribute
for seat belt awareness
[1:34:34]
prior to seat belt campaign.
[1:34:36]
And so it moves throughout
the county, the 11 counties.
[1:34:40]
We did it in 2012 at
Northfield Hospital.
[1:34:44]
And this year, we did it at
the new Public Safety Center
[1:34:49]
in Faribault. So
there's the poster.
[1:34:52]
The poster was printed
by Neuger Communications.
[1:34:58]
They did 500 large
posters for $40.
[1:35:03]
So they were a great partner
too, and we thank them for that.
[1:35:07]
So thank you very much.
[1:35:08]
Any questions, anybody?
[1:35:12]
Thank you.
[1:35:13]
MALE SPEAKER: Not necessarily--
[1:35:14]
KATHY COOPER: Oh, I'm sorry.
[1:35:15]
MALE SPEAKER: No, it's OK.
[1:35:16]
Not necessarily a
question, but a statement.
[1:35:18]
Thank you for what you do.
[1:35:20]
You've been doing this
for how many years now?
[1:35:22]
KATHY COOPER: 18.
[1:35:23]
MALE SPEAKER: 18.
[1:35:24]
And we appreciate it.
[1:35:27]
MALE SPEAKER: Well, thank you.
[1:35:28]
KATHY COOPER: There's so
many different factors,
[1:35:30]
from seat belts, to
drinking, to inattentive
[1:35:34]
driving, to these things.
[1:35:36]
And we have an aging society,
so when you have training for 65
[1:35:43]
plus, it's a lot of
factors that come
[1:35:47]
into just driving a vehicle.
[1:35:48]
KATHY COOPER: Right.
[1:35:49]
And now, thanks to our
legislature passing
[1:35:54]
legalized recreational
marijuana, that's
[1:35:57]
going to be another issue.
[1:35:59]
I mean, it's already an
issue, but it's probably
[1:36:01]
going to be a greater issue.
[1:36:03]
So, thank you.
[1:36:05]
DEB PURFEERST: And I just want
to keep Kathy up here a second
[1:36:07]
and point out that
Kathy has served
[1:36:10]
in a very long
time in Rice County
[1:36:13]
to promote traffic safety.
[1:36:15]
So we're really grateful for
her work and her dedication.
[1:36:19]
In 2024, Kathy was the recipient
of the Kathy Swanson Outstanding
[1:36:24]
Service Award for Exceptional
Leadership in her efforts
[1:36:27]
to improve traffic
safety in Minnesota,
[1:36:31]
and it was because
of Kathy's work.
[1:36:34]
Unfortunately, her daughter
was killed in a traffic crash
[1:36:39]
a number of years ago,
but she led the efforts
[1:36:42]
to improve the laws for
the primary seat belt law,
[1:36:46]
and it was because of
Kathy's dedicated work
[1:36:49]
that that happened.
[1:36:50]
So we really appreciate
all the work that she
[1:36:54]
has done in Rice County.
[1:36:55]
I would also like to shout out
to some of the Rice County staff
[1:37:00]
who are very helpful
with our coalition.
[1:37:04]
We have the county attorney's
office, law enforcement, highway
[1:37:08]
department and communications,
and they are all very active
[1:37:13]
partners on our
coalition, so we couldn't
[1:37:16]
get the work done without them.
[1:37:17]
So, thank you.
[1:37:18]
Again, thank you.
[1:37:20]
Any other questions about
Safe Roads Coalition?
[1:37:23]
MALE SPEAKER: Well,
I'd like to give it up
[1:37:24]
for Kathy and your whole staff.
[1:37:26]
So let's--
[1:37:27]
DEB PURFEERST: Yeah,
thank you Kathy.
[1:37:28]
[APPLAUSE]
[1:37:31]
KATHY COOPER: So we have a We
Care card because we do care.
[1:37:35]
Law enforcement is not out
there just giving citations.
[1:37:40]
They're trying to educate
the driving public.
[1:37:43]
We care.
[1:37:44]
We care.
[1:37:45]
DEB PURFEERST: Kathy did bring
the fatal vision goggles,
[1:37:49]
but I don't think we're going
to take time to do that.
[1:37:51]
But later, if any of you want
to put them on and see what it
[1:37:55]
would be like if you are
using cannabis products,
[1:37:59]
it gives you a good
indication of what that is
[1:38:01]
and how that might
affect your driving.
[1:38:05]
So that concludes includes
our safe roads presentation.
[1:38:09]
I'm going to move over
to the second thing
[1:38:12]
that Public Health is
going to present about.
[1:38:15]
So we're going to give you
an update on our community
[1:38:18]
health assessment process.
[1:38:20]
So as a reminder, all Minnesota
Community Health boards
[1:38:24]
are mandated to participate
in assessment and planning
[1:38:28]
and to determine local
public health priorities
[1:38:31]
and focus local resources
on the greatest community
[1:38:35]
and organizational needs.
[1:38:37]
So we did have a community
health assessment and planning
[1:38:40]
meeting in March of this year to
prioritize some of the issues.
[1:38:45]
I have Sarah Coulter here.
[1:38:47]
She is our clinic and
community supervisor,
[1:38:50]
and she's going to give
a brief update about some
[1:38:54]
of the work that
was done in March,
[1:38:56]
as well as some of the
next steps moving forward.
[1:38:59]
So, thank you, Sarah.
[1:39:01]
SARAH COULTER: Thank you.
[1:39:02]
So good morning, everyone.
[1:39:05]
I'm Sarah Coulter.
[1:39:06]
I am the clinic and community
supervisor, as Deb indicated,
[1:39:10]
and I have been in
this role since 2013.
[1:39:13]
So that actually means
this is my fourth go
[1:39:15]
around with this process.
[1:39:17]
So we keep doing
things a little bit
[1:39:19]
differently, improving,
learning some new skills.
[1:39:21]
And I want to acknowledge that
the things that have been talked
[1:39:24]
about today, I've heard at least
15 different points that you're
[1:39:27]
going to hear a little bit about
in this presentation as well.
[1:39:31]
Health is in all policies.
[1:39:33]
So just hearing some
of these things,
[1:39:35]
I'm going to try and point out
where they connect to our work
[1:39:37]
as well.
[1:39:38]
So in the world of public
health, this process,
[1:39:42]
this community health assessment
and improvement planning--
[1:39:45]
you can go to the next slide--
[1:39:46]
is required by the Local
Public Health Act of 1976.
[1:39:51]
So I'm going to take you a
little bit through this wheel
[1:39:54]
here.
[1:39:54]
Our goals are to increase your
understanding of the health
[1:39:57]
of the people of Rice County, to
walk through this process of how
[1:40:01]
we identified our top
three health-related needs
[1:40:05]
in the county, and then to
lay out our next steps, which
[1:40:08]
get to the heart of
strategizing with the community
[1:40:12]
and our partners to
address those needs.
[1:40:16]
So, go ahead.
[1:40:17]
We do this process through
a variety of methods.
[1:40:20]
This assessment piece, that
first part of our wheel.
[1:40:23]
The first part is
really data that we
[1:40:27]
gather from national,
local and state sources.
[1:40:30]
It's me going clickety-click,
click, click in my office
[1:40:33]
pulling data from the census,
from the Minnesota student
[1:40:36]
survey, et cetera, putting it
into tables, charts, and graphs,
[1:40:39]
and trying to
understand that data.
[1:40:41]
We also do a mailed survey.
[1:40:43]
So if you go to the
next slide, you'll
[1:40:45]
see that we do hire a survey
company to format the survey
[1:40:49]
and to handle the
distribution of that survey.
[1:40:53]
In this last round of surveying,
it was 57 questions long.
[1:41:01]
We're working to shorten that.
[1:41:03]
That's a lot of
questions for the public.
[1:41:05]
We did have a 27% response rate,
which is still pretty good.
[1:41:12]
But in 2021, we had
a 38% response rate.
[1:41:16]
So we are making efforts to
shorten that survey, for sure.
[1:41:21]
The survey results
are actually weighted
[1:41:23]
to ensure that the results
more accurately reflect
[1:41:26]
our population.
[1:41:27]
For example, we don't
survey students,
[1:41:29]
so this is not representative
of college students at all.
[1:41:33]
And the number of respondents
who participate in a written
[1:41:37]
survey like that,
they're typically older
[1:41:39]
and they're typically
white women.
[1:41:42]
So the results are
weighted to be more
[1:41:44]
reflective of our
population and we
[1:41:46]
can't use this data at all to
represent our people of color
[1:41:50]
in Rice County.
[1:41:52]
So all of these results were
compiled into a report, which
[1:41:56]
is available on our website.
[1:41:58]
And I am going to go through
the results of that survey
[1:42:01]
and the data gathering
in a little bit,
[1:42:03]
but I did want to show you
the next part of the wheel.
[1:42:07]
So the report and the survey
are building our assessment,
[1:42:13]
and then we have to do
this prioritization piece.
[1:42:18]
So to move into that, we
actually asked for help.
[1:42:22]
We don't do that
easily downstairs,
[1:42:24]
but we did ask for
help from the Minnesota
[1:42:26]
Department of Health, their data
and technical assistance team.
[1:42:30]
I'm really grateful
that we did do
[1:42:31]
that because they-- go ahead--
[1:42:33]
they helped us prepare
for this meeting
[1:42:36]
that we hosted
with the community.
[1:42:38]
We did gain some new
skills and it did push
[1:42:43]
us to try different new things.
[1:42:45]
So that meeting was
held on March 18.
[1:42:49]
And if you would
please raise your hand
[1:42:52]
if you were able to
attend that meeting,
[1:42:55]
or you can just raise
your hand if you wish
[1:42:58]
you had attended that meeting.
[1:42:59]
And I really hope everyone's
hand goes up because I'm
[1:43:02]
going to give you this.
[1:43:03]
Oh, sorry.
[1:43:04]
I can't reach that.
[1:43:05]
That's all right.
[1:43:05]
MALE SPEAKER: I
think we all did.
[1:43:06]
SARAH COULTER: Just
hold on to this.
[1:43:08]
Don't do anything with it
right now, just hold on to it.
[1:43:11]
All right, so there you go.
[1:43:14]
So since everyone
did raise their hand
[1:43:16]
and was hoping that they
could either have been there
[1:43:19]
or that they were
there, at this meeting,
[1:43:23]
45 people from the community
were in attendance.
[1:43:26]
And we did try some new tools.
[1:43:27]
If anybody's ever
worked with Padlet,
[1:43:29]
you'll see it in a little bit.
[1:43:30]
And we use these data
sheets that the data
[1:43:32]
and technical assistance
team helped us develop.
[1:43:35]
So before we get
into the-- go ahead.
[1:43:38]
Before we get into the
results of this data
[1:43:41]
and what the health of
the people of Rice County
[1:43:43]
looks like, I want to just
give you a quick overview.
[1:43:46]
We've got about 68,000
people in Rice County.
[1:43:49]
We are increasingly diverse,
and about 11% of our population
[1:43:54]
lives in poverty.
[1:43:57]
So as we do this, do you guys
have your cell phones with you?
[1:44:02]
MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
[1:44:03]
SARAH COULTER: If you would
please play along with me,
[1:44:05]
I'd like to try something
new with you guys,
[1:44:07]
because we're constantly trying
to innovate and keep people's
[1:44:09]
attention and try new things.
[1:44:11]
So if you would please go to
menti.com on your cell phone.
[1:44:17]
And then at the top,
you're going to see
[1:44:18]
a spot to plug in a code.
[1:44:20]
And that code is there.
[1:44:22]
It's going to stay on
the next few slides.
[1:44:24]
So if it takes you
a bit to get there,
[1:44:28]
your connectivity is
slow, you will get there.
[1:44:30]
We're going to go on
to the next slide.
[1:44:32]
But all you're going to do at
this point is go to the website
[1:44:35]
and plug in the access
code, and then you can
[1:44:39]
put your phone down for a bit.
[1:44:41]
So once I am done reviewing
the health topics,
[1:44:44]
I do want you to vote.
[1:44:46]
So Menti is a voting
tool that I want
[1:44:48]
you to try out with me today.
[1:44:50]
Anyone is welcome to vote.
[1:44:51]
So if members of the public at
home, they want to try voting,
[1:44:55]
again, the information
is on the slides.
[1:44:57]
People in the room,
you're welcome to vote.
[1:44:59]
This is just to
help us understand
[1:45:03]
and stay tuned into the data.
[1:45:04]
We will be looking at the
results at the end of this.
[1:45:07]
So again, on this slide
and the next several,
[1:45:10]
that Menti information
is on there.
[1:45:13]
All right, let's go on.
[1:45:15]
So the first data slide
that we're going to look at
[1:45:17]
is around health care access.
[1:45:19]
And you can see, this is
how we oriented the public.
[1:45:21]
So the exclamation points are
where we emphasized items that
[1:45:26]
were particularly noteworthy.
[1:45:29]
I am limiting myself to one data
point on each of these slides
[1:45:33]
and I'm sheepish to tell you
that I did miss one slide,
[1:45:37]
so I'll just verbally
talk through that one.
[1:45:40]
So in no particular
order, we're starting
[1:45:42]
off with health care access.
[1:45:44]
Rice County has more
people per provider
[1:45:47]
than the state average
for dental, mental health,
[1:45:50]
and physical primary care.
[1:45:52]
So more patients per provider
than the state average.
[1:45:57]
I just want you to think about
how that impacts a person's
[1:46:00]
ability to manage
their chronic disease,
[1:46:02]
or to get in for an appointment.
[1:46:04]
Next slide, we've got on
the bottom right, only 45%
[1:46:09]
of our children and
teens who are enrolled
[1:46:11]
in medical assistance--
so our low income
[1:46:14]
families-- have completed
their well-child exam.
[1:46:18]
But parents know that these
exams are an important part
[1:46:22]
of catching their
child's development
[1:46:25]
or physical care needs early on
so that they can be addressed.
[1:46:29]
The sooner that we detect
something, the more likely
[1:46:32]
we are to have a successful
health outcome of whatever
[1:46:35]
is identified.
[1:46:37]
So that's preventative
screenings.
[1:46:39]
Physical health.
[1:46:40]
So this sheet really captures
our leading causes of death.
[1:46:46]
And those are labeled in Rice
County by one, two, skip a few,
[1:46:50]
and then 4, 5, 6.
[1:46:54]
The one I want to
point about out here
[1:46:56]
is in your top right quadrant.
[1:46:58]
We've got 38% of our population
has high blood pressure.
[1:47:03]
High blood pressure is a
modifiable health risk.
[1:47:07]
So that is something you can
actually do something about.
[1:47:11]
That number has also
been increasing.
[1:47:15]
All right.
[1:47:15]
Next slide, we've got our
childhood immunizations.
[1:47:18]
And I'd like to point out that
we have decreasing vaccination
[1:47:23]
uptake here in Rice County.
[1:47:25]
So there's four data points
on here and all four of them
[1:47:28]
are asterisked,
so I'm just going
[1:47:30]
to summarize it by
saying we have decreasing
[1:47:32]
vaccinations in Rice County.
[1:47:34]
And there was a pertussis
outbreak in Minnesota in 2024.
[1:47:39]
Next slide.
[1:47:40]
I lumped the youth
and the adults
[1:47:42]
together when it comes
to weight status.
[1:47:44]
Our adults are actually-- if
we look at overweight and obese
[1:47:48]
together, 75% of our
Rice County residents
[1:47:52]
are overweight or obese.
[1:47:54]
And being in those
weight categories
[1:47:56]
has an impact on our
chronic disease, which
[1:47:58]
just two slides ago,
I told you was one
[1:48:01]
of our leading causes of death.
[1:48:03]
So I also wanted to point
out-- so I'm cheating
[1:48:06]
and I'm doing two on this
one-- that as our screen
[1:48:09]
time increases, oh, it's
actually-- no, it's right here.
[1:48:13]
So as our screen time
increases, so sedentary time,
[1:48:17]
so does our experience with
anxiety and depression.
[1:48:20]
You're going to see that
here coming up soon too.
[1:48:24]
So on this slide,
we've got our youth
[1:48:26]
and our adult substance abuse.
[1:48:28]
And I just want to say
that our children reflect
[1:48:31]
the behaviors of the adults.
[1:48:32]
So we've got increasing
amounts of cannabis.
[1:48:37]
Tobacco is actually
going down a little bit.
[1:48:39]
And tobacco is actually higher
in southern Rice County.
[1:48:42]
So if you're a commissioner
in southern Rice County,
[1:48:45]
take a look at that
top right area,
[1:48:48]
looking at Southern Rice County
split by northern Rice County.
[1:48:52]
Pause here, Sarah, because
this is where I forgot
[1:48:54]
the slide on mental health.
[1:48:57]
Sorry about that, it's actually
a really important one.
[1:49:00]
And one in three adults
have either anxiety
[1:49:03]
or depression in Rice County.
[1:49:06]
It's the same for our children.
[1:49:08]
It's also interesting that
when you look at loneliness,
[1:49:10]
one in three of our adults
experience loneliness.
[1:49:14]
So that number has increased
very significantly since 2016.
[1:49:22]
We're going to go on.
[1:49:23]
The next slide is
around maternal health.
[1:49:26]
As you know, I do work with
our WIC services as well.
[1:49:30]
And I want to
point out that this
[1:49:31]
is an area WIC is
going to be focusing
[1:49:33]
on in the next two years.
[1:49:35]
37% of our WIC moms
have a low hemoglobin.
[1:49:39]
Hemoglobin is like the
iron in your blood,
[1:49:41]
and it's what carries oxygen. A
woman is building another human
[1:49:45]
at this time, and that
human needs blood volume,
[1:49:47]
and so does mom.
[1:49:48]
So in their third trimester,
we have 37% of our WIC moms
[1:49:52]
with low hemoglobin.
[1:49:54]
That is actually higher
when you look at it by race.
[1:49:57]
So our white moms experience
lower levels of low hemoglobin,
[1:50:01]
and our Black and
our Hispanic moms
[1:50:03]
experience greater
levels of low hemoglobin.
[1:50:06]
So low hemoglobin in
pregnancy increases
[1:50:09]
risk of premature babies, so
babies born before 37 weeks.
[1:50:13]
I'm guessing some
of you guys have
[1:50:14]
had experiences with premature
babies in your lives.
[1:50:18]
Those babies are also at
risk of low birth weight
[1:50:21]
and at risk of
infection or the mother
[1:50:24]
bleeding out during birth.
[1:50:25]
So 37% of our moms
are experiencing this.
[1:50:30]
All right, our housing slide.
[1:50:33]
We've got nearly
half of our renters
[1:50:35]
in Rice County are paying 30%
or more of their income on rent.
[1:50:42]
You already knew
that, I'm thinking,
[1:50:43]
but that is really,
really significant.
[1:50:46]
Motor vehicle safety.
[1:50:48]
Shout out to Kathy who, I don't
know if she's still in the room,
[1:50:51]
but two in five of our students
report distracted driving.
[1:50:57]
Commissioner Mallika pointed
out all the distractions
[1:50:59]
that are available to
us when we're driving,
[1:51:03]
and so just a nod to Kathy
on that part of her work.
[1:51:07]
Violence, abuse, and neglect.
[1:51:10]
One in 10 of our students report
emotional or physical abuse.
[1:51:14]
There's also some information
from Megan Thomas's unit
[1:51:17]
or department on
this slide as well,
[1:51:20]
regarding the number of children
in out-of-home foster care.
[1:51:25]
All right, that is what I
would like to call a turn
[1:51:28]
and burn on the data
related to Rice County.
[1:51:32]
And this is where we're going to
pause so that you guys can vote.
[1:51:35]
So if you would again pull up
your Menti, what I want you
[1:51:38]
to do is choose three
categories where
[1:51:40]
you think it's the outstanding
or one of the top three
[1:51:44]
of those categories.
[1:51:46]
Just select them,
and then Sarah,
[1:51:49]
if you would go to our
website so we can start
[1:51:51]
seeing how you guys voted.
[1:51:58]
MALE SPEAKER: So you just told
us we're going to get depressed
[1:52:01]
if we're on the screen
time and now you
[1:52:03]
got us playing on our phones.
[1:52:05]
SARAH COULTER: Yeah, yep.
[1:52:06]
You're absolutely right, I do.
[1:52:08]
But after this, please
feel free to turn it off.
[1:52:12]
All right, so what you
can see, we've got--
[1:52:14]
oh, good.
[1:52:15]
You're still voting.
[1:52:16]
I'm going to let it
settle for a bit.
[1:52:19]
MALE SPEAKER: I was
paying attention.
[1:52:21]
SARAH COULTER: And
dang, we're going
[1:52:22]
to need some tiebreakers here.
[1:52:24]
So if somebody
else wants to vote,
[1:52:26]
you can see that the number
one issue here is housing,
[1:52:29]
and then we've got a whole lot.
[1:52:31]
And I'm not too surprised.
[1:52:32]
All of these things is
a pressing health need.
[1:52:36]
We're only able to
focus on the top three,
[1:52:39]
and now we've got three.
[1:52:40]
So let's just go with this.
[1:52:42]
We've got physical health,
substance use, and housing.
[1:52:45]
So just in this kind of--
[1:52:46]
I'm sorry, I'm pretty
informal about some of this
[1:52:49]
and this spitball method.
[1:52:50]
This is what we
came up with, those
[1:52:52]
being the top three--
housing, physical health,
[1:52:55]
and substance use.
[1:52:56]
Let's take a look, Sarah, if you
would go back to the top three
[1:52:59]
that the community identified.
[1:53:01]
When the community went through
this process which, granted,
[1:53:05]
they got a whole lot
more meat on the bones
[1:53:07]
in this presentation.
[1:53:08]
We really took some time to
digest it with our partners.
[1:53:11]
And these are the top three
that they came up with.
[1:53:14]
Housing, mental health,
and health care access.
[1:53:18]
So we can go to the next slide
because this is the tool Padlet.
[1:53:23]
Super, super messy, but
it worked brilliantly.
[1:53:26]
You're getting the summary, but
we spent the rest of our meeting
[1:53:31]
after we identified the
top three, really diving
[1:53:34]
deep on those three
topics of housing,
[1:53:37]
mental health, and health care.
[1:53:38]
And we talked about
what is helping
[1:53:42]
on this issue of mental health,
housing, and health care,
[1:53:47]
and what is contributing,
what's making it worse.
[1:53:50]
And everybody just kept dumping
their ideas and information
[1:53:53]
into this tool, Padlet.
[1:53:56]
And now what we've done--
[1:53:59]
well, then, we
stopped the meeting.
[1:54:02]
Well, no, I guess not.
[1:54:04]
We closed the
meeting by asking who
[1:54:06]
wants to be involved in the
next steps of this process.
[1:54:10]
So we can go to the
next slide, because I've
[1:54:12]
taken you all the way
around to number three here.
[1:54:15]
We are currently strategizing.
[1:54:17]
So we're taking these
top three health issues
[1:54:20]
and we're meeting with work
groups, which are going to begin
[1:54:24]
meeting later on this month.
[1:54:26]
And then we're
going to be setting
[1:54:27]
some goals, some
strategies, and objectives.
[1:54:30]
And we're going to
develop measurement
[1:54:34]
in order to be able
to see whether or not
[1:54:35]
we're having an impact.
[1:54:37]
So the population measure
is something we just measure
[1:54:42]
periodically, not regularly.
[1:54:45]
So when we look at the fact
that one in three of our adults
[1:54:48]
is experiencing
anxiety or depression,
[1:54:50]
if I measure that
every week, I'm
[1:54:52]
not going to see much change.
[1:54:54]
But if I measure the efforts
that the community is having
[1:54:57]
around, like, raising awareness
about mental health needs,
[1:55:01]
increasing the
number of providers,
[1:55:02]
those things change
more regularly.
[1:55:04]
And then we pull our
population measure again
[1:55:07]
in about three years and see
if we've had a positive impact
[1:55:11]
on that outcome.
[1:55:14]
So since our technology
worked, I don't actually
[1:55:17]
need you to use your
red packets in the way
[1:55:20]
that I thought I might
need you to use them
[1:55:22]
if our technology didn't work.
[1:55:24]
But in recognition that
one of our top health needs
[1:55:26]
is mental health,
when you open up
[1:55:28]
your packet, what
you're going to find in
[1:55:30]
there is three wooden hearts.
[1:55:32]
And again, since our technology
worked and mental health
[1:55:35]
is a top health
need in Rice County,
[1:55:37]
you can feel free to take
those three wooden hearts
[1:55:40]
and distribute them
to three people.
[1:55:43]
I'm going to ask you to find
three people that you want
[1:55:46]
to appreciate, or just
send a message of kindness
[1:55:49]
to, and give those little
hearts of kindness away.
[1:55:51]
So thank you for
your time today.
[1:55:54]
What questions may I help with?
[1:55:59]
MALE SPEAKER: Well,
Sarah, I enjoy your energy
[1:56:01]
and your presentations.
[1:56:04]
SARAH COULTER:
Love working here.
[1:56:05]
We've got some good
stuff going on.
[1:56:08]
MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
[1:56:08]
Any other comments?
[1:56:11]
Thank you, Sarah.
[1:56:12]
That was very good.
[1:56:13]
SARAH COULTER: Thank you.
[1:56:16]
MALE SPEAKER: Commissioners,
are you doing good?
[1:56:19]
Stay with it?
[1:56:22]
We got the honorable
Dennis Luebbe coming up.
[1:56:32]
DENNIS LUEBBE: Good morning.
[1:56:33]
MALE SPEAKER: Good morning.
[1:56:34]
MALE SPEAKER: Good morning.
[1:56:35]
DENNIS LUEBBE: So I'll
keep some updates brief.
[1:56:37]
It's been a long morning.
[1:56:38]
I know Paula wanted to know
how long I was going to talk
[1:56:41]
because she's ready to go.
[1:56:45]
Just some updates from highways.
[1:56:46]
I'll focus on
construction, mostly.
[1:56:49]
A couple projects, well, all
projects are moving along fine.
[1:56:53]
I think in the next
couple of weeks,
[1:56:54]
we'll be really close to
wrapping up several of them.
[1:56:59]
I do want to point out that
on our County Road 50, that's
[1:57:02]
that reconstruction
project, we ran
[1:57:03]
into two pockets
of silty material
[1:57:06]
that required us to put
in a little extra cement
[1:57:09]
stabilization.
[1:57:11]
So we'll probably
have a little cost
[1:57:13]
overrun in at least that
line item on that contract.
[1:57:17]
But at this point, I don't
think it's anything excessive.
[1:57:22]
Let's see, on our County Road
78 culvert up by Sechler Park
[1:57:27]
in Northfield, we
ran into bedrock,
[1:57:29]
and that will cost a
few extra dollars again
[1:57:32]
to have that excavated
out, especially
[1:57:34]
for the knee walls or the
toe walls of that culvert.
[1:57:39]
Again, I don't think
it's excessive,
[1:57:40]
but probably some
unplanned cost on that job.
[1:57:48]
Let's see, we did receive
some additional funding
[1:57:52]
so we can advance the
Richland Township Bridge
[1:57:55]
Hall Avenue Commissioner.
[1:57:57]
I'll be talking to them
in November on that,
[1:58:00]
get that squared
away for next year.
[1:58:03]
I will have next week, for
your action or consideration,
[1:58:07]
a proposal to start a design
for another Northfield Township
[1:58:12]
Bridge on Carroll Trail.
[1:58:14]
I got a proposal
from a consultant,
[1:58:16]
so that'll be on the agenda
for next week's action item,
[1:58:20]
as well as an update on County
Road 11, our slope failure
[1:58:24]
due to the flooding last year.
[1:58:26]
We did open some bids.
[1:58:28]
The bids came in extremely high.
[1:58:31]
And we will be
reassessing our options,
[1:58:35]
and I'll share more details
with you next week on that.
[1:58:38]
It doesn't look like
we'll get that project
[1:58:40]
done this year due to the costs
we saw on that bid opening.
[1:58:45]
And then the other
County Road 20 project
[1:58:50]
we're designing for 2027 from
Trunk Highway 3 by Menard's
[1:58:55]
and Dundas to back up
towards Faribault about three
[1:58:58]
miles, that project, in
the design phase right now,
[1:59:02]
we're probably looking at
a few challenges there.
[1:59:05]
We've talked to Great
River Energy, which
[1:59:07]
is the transmission line through
Rice County, or at least one
[1:59:11]
of them.
[1:59:12]
We're going to have to
move one of their poles
[1:59:14]
so our alignment can best fit
the contours and the other needs
[1:59:20]
of the project.
[1:59:21]
That may not be cheap.
[1:59:24]
We've just started the process
with them to investigate
[1:59:28]
the cost to do that.
[1:59:30]
And then, in that same area,
to make the road improvements
[1:59:35]
and design a safe road
to serve the public
[1:59:38]
for the next 50 years, we're
going to move the alignment.
[1:59:42]
Moving that alignment
pushes us into some wetland
[1:59:45]
and some poor soils.
[1:59:46]
So we're just beginning to
learn how much over-excavation.
[1:59:50]
We're going to get into that.
[1:59:52]
So when we talk about
the cost of that project,
[1:59:56]
I think it's creeping
upwards, but we'll know more
[2:00:00]
as we get further into design.
[2:00:03]
We do hope to have maybe some
exhibits in a public open house
[2:00:09]
on that part of County
Road 20, I think in October
[2:00:12]
now, maybe later in October.
[2:00:16]
And let's see, well, I
think I'll stop there.
[2:00:20]
I could talk a little
bit about parks
[2:00:21]
if you're interested in what
we've been able to do in parks.
[2:00:26]
We've got a project
going on at Shaker Park,
[2:00:28]
right west of town off
of Trunk Highway 60
[2:00:30]
for some ADA improvements
through Deb and Public Health
[2:00:35]
funding some of that,
and then the action
[2:00:37]
you took last week to free
up some of those dollars
[2:00:39]
in our park dedication fee.
[2:00:42]
Randy Tim's crew is going to
get in there, I think, next week
[2:00:44]
and start making
those improvements.
[2:00:47]
We have some trailhead
signs that were also funded
[2:00:50]
through Public Health and SHIP.
[2:00:52]
Those should be going up next
week at three different parks
[2:00:57]
to give folks a better
sense of the park amenities
[2:01:01]
and some of the
history of the parks.
[2:01:03]
And Susie's been very
helpful to help that,
[2:01:06]
along with other
staff in Public Health
[2:01:08]
and in the assessor's office--
[2:01:10]
good teamwork on that.
[2:01:12]
Our MnDOT crew, I think, should
be placing signs along our Trunk
[2:01:16]
Highway system in
Rice County that
[2:01:18]
identify those parks as well.
[2:01:20]
I need to follow up and see
where they're at with that.
[2:01:24]
That was also funded
through Public Health.
[2:01:27]
And then our regional
park application,
[2:01:31]
we were able to go to
the Defeat of Jesse James
[2:01:35]
Day on a Saturday morning.
[2:01:36]
We had an opportunity
for a survey,
[2:01:39]
try to capture some folks'
interest and knowledge
[2:01:42]
of Cannon River Wilderness
Park, what amenities
[2:01:46]
they would like to see.
[2:01:48]
And some folks didn't even know
where it was, but that's fine.
[2:01:52]
So we're building
awareness for that.
[2:01:53]
That was a pretty good
turnout on that day
[2:01:55]
until we got rained out,
I think, about 2 o'clock.
[2:01:59]
Nice event up there.
[2:02:02]
With the attorney's office,
we're working on the park rules.
[2:02:06]
So as part of our signage,
we're going to display--
[2:02:10]
the board will be acting
on that in the future
[2:02:13]
here to develop some updated
park rules, so that's underway.
[2:02:18]
And I think we're going
to hopefully wrap that
[2:02:20]
up by the end of this year.
[2:02:23]
And then it's
funding time, so I'll
[2:02:26]
be working with Sandy on a
couple of different initiatives.
[2:02:28]
And then also, our routine
highway funding opportunities
[2:02:34]
are starting to come
to us, and there'll
[2:02:37]
be some discussion
possibly on what projects
[2:02:40]
we would pursue funding on.
[2:02:42]
And we're talking about projects
that are probably in years
[2:02:44]
3, 4, and 5 in our program.
[2:02:47]
So I'll keep it short.
[2:02:50]
Any questions on that update?
[2:02:54]
MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead, Galen.
[2:02:56]
MALE SPEAKER: I don't think
you mentioned County Road
[2:02:58]
46, Hazelwood Avenue.
[2:03:00]
DENNIS LUEBBE: That
project, I think,
[2:03:02]
has one lift of asphalt to go.
[2:03:04]
They finished that this
week with the paving,
[2:03:07]
and then of course, pavement
markings, signage, shouldering,
[2:03:10]
and I think some
very minor ditch
[2:03:14]
grading has to be done yet.
[2:03:16]
Probably, I would say,
middle of October,
[2:03:20]
maybe a week earlier than that.
[2:03:24]
County Road 48 right
here in Faribault, it's
[2:03:27]
an interesting
paving approach there
[2:03:29]
to deal with all of the
different traffic lanes
[2:03:31]
and the different
depths of paving.
[2:03:33]
That's moved along
nicely, and the traffic
[2:03:36]
signal work was done.
[2:03:38]
And I think final
paving is, again,
[2:03:41]
probably five to 10 days out.
[2:03:44]
That could wrap up.
[2:03:45]
Our County Road 27 project,
I think all the construction
[2:03:48]
signs have been removed and so
I think we're essentially done.
[2:03:54]
Did mention County Road 50,
and I did mention the culvert.
[2:03:57]
So it's been a good,
heavy month of work.
[2:04:03]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you.
[2:04:04]
MALE SPEAKER: How
about the fuel port?
[2:04:05]
Is that going this year or is
that going to get pushed in?
[2:04:07]
DENNIS LUEBBE: I talked to
our consultant just yesterday.
[2:04:10]
We have not heard back from
the low bid on their intention.
[2:04:13]
I do believe it is planned
for next year, Commissioner.
[2:04:16]
I'm waiting for written
confirmation on that
[2:04:19]
and I wanted to
mention that today,
[2:04:21]
but I don't have it, so
we should get that any day
[2:04:24]
with a schedule for work
commencing next spring.
[2:04:34]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you, Dennis.
[2:04:35]
Is that it?
[2:04:35]
DENNIS LUEBBE: Yep, yep.
[2:04:36]
MALE SPEAKER: I appreciate it.
[2:04:37]
Thank you much.
[2:04:39]
Next, we have finance
with Paula O'Connell.
[2:04:43]
SARAH: And actually,
I'll be taking it.
[2:04:46]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you, Sarah.
[2:04:47]
SARAH: Yep.
[2:04:48]
Our prelim budget-- and I'm
going to stay here because I'm
[2:04:50]
going to have multiple
screens that I
[2:04:51]
can pull up our
information depending
[2:04:53]
on where the questions land.
[2:04:56]
Sometime later this
morning as well,
[2:04:58]
the budget packet will be
updated for a new budget
[2:05:01]
roll forward document.
[2:05:03]
There was a section
in there that
[2:05:05]
had some data from
outside agencies
[2:05:07]
that needed to be updated,
so that will be taken care of
[2:05:10]
and re-uploaded.
[2:05:11]
I do have an accurate copy
that I can share on the screen
[2:05:14]
when we get to that point.
[2:05:15]
So let me move into
a presentation here.
[2:05:29]
I just have to try to get
it over to the other screen.
[2:05:39]
I'll try this instead.
[2:05:50]
There we are.
[2:05:51]
So I'm going to just go through
the first couple of slides
[2:05:53]
we have every year with
our mission, vision,
[2:05:55]
values, priorities, and
the high level summary.
[2:05:59]
So for next week, this
number is actually going
[2:06:03]
to go just a little bit lower.
[2:06:06]
We got some information
at the end of last week.
[2:06:08]
As we talked about
throughout the summer here
[2:06:09]
in legislative
session, we're going
[2:06:11]
to be getting
information on a rolling
[2:06:13]
basis beyond preliminary levy.
[2:06:15]
So towards the end of last week,
we received some information.
[2:06:18]
I know when Angela Brewer
was here talking about some
[2:06:21]
of their grants, we requested
a one year extension.
[2:06:24]
We didn't know the
results of that yet,
[2:06:25]
so we had that half time FTE on
the levy instead of the grant,
[2:06:29]
because as far as we knew, that
grant was going to be done.
[2:06:31]
We did get, towards the end
of the week, notification
[2:06:34]
that one year, no cost
extension was granted,
[2:06:38]
so that FTE will
then shift from levy
[2:06:41]
to grant funding for next year.
[2:06:43]
That will take that
down a little bit.
[2:06:45]
And then we had another
position that we reviewed,
[2:06:47]
that instead of being full
time, is going to be 0.75.
[2:06:50]
So that will move some
things around too.
[2:06:51]
So for the purposes of
today, these are the numbers.
[2:06:55]
But next week, when
you see the resolution,
[2:06:57]
it will be a little
bit lower than that.
[2:07:00]
So the 2026 budget
recommendation
[2:07:03]
is $103,688,739 for all funds.
[2:07:08]
The 2025 budget was a
little over 116 million.
[2:07:12]
You'll see this visually
reflected later where you look
[2:07:14]
at in particular, like
transportation projects can make
[2:07:18]
that swing, or when we have
facility projects, things
[2:07:21]
like that, that are not our
general ongoing operations,
[2:07:25]
where you'll see that
number can shift what
[2:07:30]
would be pretty significantly.
[2:07:32]
So last year, we had more
transportation projects.
[2:07:35]
This year, you'll see how
transportation is a smaller
[2:07:38]
portion of the
budget than it was
[2:07:39]
last year, just because again,
you guys see the 10 year plan.
[2:07:42]
When we have larger, maybe
federal or state funded projects
[2:07:45]
that's not levy, that can make
that number move quite a bit.
[2:07:48]
So that's where we're
sitting for this year.
[2:07:50]
Our total levy
increase is $3,532,540.
[2:07:56]
If you think about all things
equal, nothing changes.
[2:08:01]
What are the staff,
because of health
[2:08:03]
care, bargaining agreement
changes, things of that nature--
[2:08:07]
our personnel costs,
including all the taxes,
[2:08:11]
and we have a new tax this year
with the paid family leave tax
[2:08:15]
that will be going into play.
[2:08:17]
That's $3,157,000,
so that leaves
[2:08:19]
$374,870 for other things.
[2:08:23]
The staffing is
not a one-for-one
[2:08:25]
because we do have
some positions where
[2:08:27]
a portion of their funding
might be reimbursed
[2:08:31]
through state or
federal programs,
[2:08:32]
or it might be a
grant funded position.
[2:08:34]
So again, that staffing
number isn't a one-for-one,
[2:08:37]
but that's what that increase
in payroll is year over year.
[2:08:41]
And next year, we actually
have a slight overall decrease
[2:08:44]
in FTE, so there's
not going to be
[2:08:47]
an increase in our FTE from
last year to this year,
[2:08:50]
or this year to next year.
[2:08:52]
Our HRA levy increase is 0.
[2:08:55]
We were able to stay flat
based on funding they
[2:08:58]
get from a variety of sources.
[2:09:00]
And then the county and
HRA combined levy is 8.87%,
[2:09:07]
and then I'll have that
breakdown a little more further.
[2:09:09]
So the total 2026 property tax
levy request is $43,354,666,
[2:09:17]
but that will change
for next week.
[2:09:19]
Again, that will be a
little bit lower than that.
[2:09:22]
MALE SPEAKER: Sarah?
[2:09:23]
SARAH: Yeah?
[2:09:24]
MALE SPEAKER: Could you
go back just for a moment?
[2:09:26]
Our top line, our
budget is $103,688,000.
[2:09:31]
And then you got in
parentheses, $116,538,000.
[2:09:34]
SARAH: Yeah, that
was this year's.
[2:09:36]
So just so you could see what
our budget was for this year
[2:09:39]
for expenditures
compared to what we're
[2:09:41]
going to be spending next year.
[2:09:42]
MALE SPEAKER: OK.
[2:09:43]
SARAH: Yep.
[2:09:43]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you.
[2:09:49]
SARAH: And this is, again,
kind of dialing down
[2:09:51]
a little bit, our levy by fund.
[2:09:54]
So you can see the changes for
general fund, libraries, road
[2:09:59]
and bridge, human
services, and compared
[2:10:02]
to what we levied in 2025.
[2:10:08]
So our total gross county
levy is 7.6% increase.
[2:10:12]
And then you take
into consideration
[2:10:13]
county program aid, which
we're actually losing a bit.
[2:10:17]
And that impact, even though
it's only a loss of $143,393,
[2:10:23]
it doesn't keep up with our
cost of administering services.
[2:10:26]
So that's what makes that
net levy net out to the 8.92.
[2:10:30]
So before the impact of county
program aid, we're at 7.6,
[2:10:35]
then we go up to 8.92.
[2:10:38]
And we do have a slide that
just talks about program aid,
[2:10:43]
but as a reminder for
people's knowledge
[2:10:46]
here, we did have an
infusion or the legislature
[2:10:52]
provided more money a few years
back for additional program aid.
[2:10:56]
And that didn't change for
this year, but what we get
[2:10:59]
is based on formula for how
our county is either performing
[2:11:03]
or the demographics
of our county compared
[2:11:05]
to other counties in the state.
[2:11:06]
So you have two parts
to county program aid.
[2:11:09]
You've got county
need aid and county
[2:11:11]
tax base equalization aid.
[2:11:13]
So for the county
need aid, our share
[2:11:15]
is based on here's
the money, here's
[2:11:17]
what the legislature
appropriates
[2:11:19]
for each of those buckets.
[2:11:21]
And then part of it's
distributed based on percentage
[2:11:25]
of our population
that's 65 and older
[2:11:27]
compared to other counties
with what their 65
[2:11:31]
and older population is.
[2:11:32]
The next part of that is based
on what portion of our county,
[2:11:37]
how many residents
receive SNAP benefits.
[2:11:39]
And then the other part is
based on state group A offenses,
[2:11:43]
like part I crime data.
[2:11:45]
So it's kind of that hard
thing too, because you
[2:11:49]
don't want crime committed.
[2:11:51]
You want a good economy
where we don't need some
[2:11:53]
of those social safety nets.
[2:11:56]
So as you improve
in those areas,
[2:11:58]
your aid goes down
because then it
[2:12:00]
seems like the economy of
your county is doing better,
[2:12:03]
and same thing on the tax
base equalization aid.
[2:12:05]
There were some
changes to this maybe--
[2:12:08]
I'm thinking 10 years ago,
maybe a little longer,
[2:12:10]
because it talks about--
[2:12:12]
it's based on your
county tax base.
[2:12:16]
And so there was a period
of time particularly, like,
[2:12:19]
I was working in
Southwest Minnesota, where
[2:12:22]
ag land was rapidly rising.
[2:12:24]
You had over $10,000
an acre, sometimes
[2:12:27]
close to $15,000 an acre.
[2:12:29]
The prices in the
Minnesota River Valley
[2:12:30]
were very significant.
[2:12:31]
So those counties that
were small and having
[2:12:34]
these rapid rises
of ag land values,
[2:12:39]
their county program aid was
decreasing pretty significantly.
[2:12:43]
So they put in this
little formula piece
[2:12:47]
that is the greater of 0.27%
of the statewide appropriation
[2:12:55]
for the equalization aid,
or 95% of your county's
[2:12:57]
TBA for the previous year.
[2:12:59]
So that reduced the instability
and that fluctuation
[2:13:02]
of that portion of aid,
because again, that
[2:13:04]
was pretty significant
for some counties
[2:13:07]
that had those large
swings in the ag values.
[2:13:12]
So that's where, again, if money
doesn't get added to that pool,
[2:13:18]
some counties will see
a continual decline,
[2:13:20]
while other counties will
see a continual increase.
[2:13:22]
So it's more of a policy thing
when we get to legislature.
[2:13:29]
MALE SPEAKER: Excuse me, did you
commissioners understand that?
[2:13:33]
SARAH: Sorry, it's complicated.
[2:13:34]
MALE SPEAKER: I mean, that
was a lot to digest for me.
[2:13:36]
SARAH: I know.
[2:13:37]
I'll repeat it again during
final, but that is just,
[2:13:40]
again, one of the complicated
formulas that we deal with that
[2:13:42]
does have an impact on what our
net levy looks like every year,
[2:13:46]
and it is a legislative point of
discussion every year as well.
[2:13:53]
So if we look at the county HRA
only tax rate and levy history,
[2:14:01]
over the past 10 years
or so, our tax rate
[2:14:05]
estimate for this coming year is
38.96%, our levy change, 8.87.
[2:14:11]
I'm going to pull up
another document here just
[2:14:14]
to show you some more info.
[2:14:16]
Let me see here.
[2:14:20]
I think it's on here.
[2:14:24]
And Josh was here earlier.
[2:14:26]
He talked about the trends
and what we're seeing.
[2:14:28]
So these numbers
in the bottom are
[2:14:31]
very close to his presentation
but not quite the same.
[2:14:33]
These are a point in time
number that we get when we're
[2:14:36]
working on preparing stuff.
[2:14:37]
So when you look at our
taxable market value,
[2:14:42]
our projection at the point in
time we did this document was
[2:14:45]
about that $10,817,000,000 mark,
which was very close to what
[2:14:51]
Josh had in his presentation.
[2:14:53]
And our net tax capacity,
which is what he was describing
[2:14:56]
in that very complex, all the
property classifications and all
[2:14:59]
those classes are
assigned at a tax rate,
[2:15:01]
based on what the
state tells us,
[2:15:03]
each piece of
parcel can be taxed
[2:15:06]
at, our net tax capacity for
the county is $111,267,925--
[2:15:13]
again, an estimate at
this point in time.
[2:15:16]
We have a little over $93
million in new construction,
[2:15:21]
so this isn't just
values increasing
[2:15:23]
because of different
market factors,
[2:15:25]
this is also new construction.
[2:15:27]
And that gives us our
tax rate of 38.96%.
[2:15:31]
So basically, based on current
tax capacity that the state
[2:15:36]
allows through their
statutes and rules,
[2:15:39]
we're tapping into
about 38% of that.
[2:15:42]
So we can, under their
rules, tax $111 million.
[2:15:47]
We don't and are not going to.
[2:15:51]
So that's kind of what shows.
[2:15:53]
So we're looking at $43
million in property taxes.
[2:15:57]
Our ceiling is 111, if
that kind of makes sense.
[2:16:01]
So our new estimated net tax
capacity for new construction
[2:16:06]
is $838 million.
[2:16:09]
Our new construction
tax revenue--
[2:16:11]
so of this increase that we're
asking for, we're estimating
[2:16:16]
that $326,000 of that, maybe 3/4
of a percent-- a little more--
[2:16:21]
is going to be paid
for by new construction
[2:16:24]
that we're experiencing.
[2:16:26]
So it's always good to see
growth in our tax base.
[2:16:30]
That's what we're going
for to help spread
[2:16:32]
that out a little bit more.
[2:16:36]
This is the document
that's in the attachment,
[2:16:39]
but the more current version
where it goes through
[2:16:43]
and talks about each
department within the fund.
[2:16:46]
So the total general
fund is going up 9.27%.
[2:16:51]
Some areas, we're
kind of phasing out
[2:16:56]
some one-time funding
that we received
[2:16:58]
and easing that off because
that money is just about done.
[2:17:04]
We had an increase
in that payroll tax
[2:17:08]
for the paid family leave,
some things like that.
[2:17:14]
Let's see here-- extension,
I'll talk about that one a bit
[2:17:17]
because that looks
like a larger number,
[2:17:18]
and that number will
come down a little bit.
[2:17:20]
But in the prior year--
so not this year in '24,
[2:17:24]
I think towards the
end of '23 maybe,
[2:17:26]
a position was eliminated
but it wasn't eliminated,
[2:17:30]
was only on pause.
[2:17:32]
But we took it off
the levy and we
[2:17:33]
provided for funds
for a facilitator
[2:17:37]
to determine what
the needs were.
[2:17:39]
So we had a position, didn't
feel like it was meeting
[2:17:42]
the needs we wanted to do.
[2:17:43]
We're reevaluating
that, and so now we've
[2:17:45]
come up with some ideas so we
can look at having the Extension
[2:17:49]
Committee review some
job descriptions, come
[2:17:51]
to an agreement, and
that was a 0.75 FTE.
[2:17:54]
So now for '26, we're
anticipating that that 0.75 FTE
[2:17:58]
will be back in the
budget when it's
[2:18:00]
been left unfilled for a
year while they try to work
[2:18:03]
out the job descriptions.
[2:18:06]
Those positions are State of
Minnesota, extension University
[2:18:09]
of Minnesota positions, so
it's not like a job description
[2:18:12]
that we can just
craft and change.
[2:18:14]
We have to work
within what they have
[2:18:16]
and their union, their wages,
their job descriptions.
[2:18:19]
So it's just a little bit
different process to get
[2:18:21]
to where we want to get to.
[2:18:22]
But that'll be there, so that's
why it looks like there's
[2:18:24]
a larger increase in
extension, is to accommodate
[2:18:27]
for that position.
[2:18:30]
And if anything changes
with that before final,
[2:18:32]
we'll make those changes.
[2:18:38]
Again, we show we had these fund
summaries on the other page.
[2:18:43]
Human Services.
[2:18:45]
So throughout this
fall, we had departments
[2:18:47]
come in that were going to
be seeing more of an impact
[2:18:50]
from legislative changes.
[2:18:52]
So, like, we had Social Services
presented a couple of times
[2:18:56]
on some different areas.
[2:18:58]
Community Corrections
was in because there's
[2:19:00]
a little bit larger swing
in community corrections.
[2:19:02]
So they came and talked twice
to you all about the things
[2:19:05]
impacting their budget
and what the needs were.
[2:19:08]
We had the 901 Center
and some other smaller
[2:19:11]
presentations on budgets, so you
could get the detail in there.
[2:19:15]
And when we do
final budget, we'll
[2:19:16]
link to all those
online resources
[2:19:18]
so people can go back and
review the specific department
[2:19:21]
presentations on that for
more information as well.
[2:19:24]
But in here, you'll see areas
where, again, we might have
[2:19:28]
a little bit higher swing
because we have new things that
[2:19:30]
are going in there,
whether it's competency
[2:19:32]
attainment like Megan discussed,
or we have increased services.
[2:19:36]
What you don't see in
particular in Human Services,
[2:19:40]
are things that changed
in session this year,
[2:19:43]
whether it's state or federal.
[2:19:44]
But a lot of those have
delayed implementation.
[2:19:47]
So some things are end of fourth
quarter next year, October,
[2:19:51]
so we might have that in there.
[2:19:52]
Some things are
2027 implementation,
[2:19:55]
some things are 2028.
[2:19:56]
And so departmental
staff and myself
[2:19:59]
have been attending
any opportunity we can,
[2:20:01]
federal and state online
meetings and webinars
[2:20:05]
that they're holding.
[2:20:06]
And the message has
pretty much been the same.
[2:20:08]
Like, here's the change, here's
maybe a broad sweep of what they
[2:20:12]
think an impact would be, but
the analysis is not complete as
[2:20:15]
to what that means for us here.
[2:20:17]
And so that
information hopefully
[2:20:19]
will continue to develop over
towards the end of this year.
[2:20:23]
Some of it we won't be
getting maybe till next year.
[2:20:27]
So that's why we talked
significantly about impacts
[2:20:31]
of changes and we've only
seen an increase of 7.462%
[2:20:36]
because a lot of
those changes are not
[2:20:38]
implemented quite yet
next year, but they
[2:20:40]
will be seen in future years.
[2:20:44]
Debt service.
[2:20:44]
I have a thing on debt
service to show you guys,
[2:20:47]
because we usually
talk about this
[2:20:48]
and this is good
for thinking ahead.
[2:20:51]
So all these numbers are
our debt service chart
[2:20:57]
that Paula and finance track.
[2:21:00]
So I'm going to
highlight because I
[2:21:01]
know this is itty-bitty.
[2:21:02]
But what it shows is how
we structured our debt.
[2:21:05]
So for '25, '26, '27, '28, our
debt service number is flat,
[2:21:11]
so we won't need
to increase pending
[2:21:13]
a decision made to do anything
else with additional debt.
[2:21:18]
$4,513,000 is our debt
service through 2028.
[2:21:24]
Then you'll see in 2029, some
prior debt service issues
[2:21:28]
are going to start to drop off.
[2:21:30]
They're going to be paid.
[2:21:31]
So we'll see a decrease
of almost $700,000
[2:21:35]
in 2029 for debt service.
[2:21:37]
We'll see some
little modifications
[2:21:41]
in the next several
years, and then again, you
[2:21:44]
just see a continued drop off.
[2:21:50]
Looks like 2039, we'll get
about a million decrease.
[2:21:54]
But this is what our
schedule looks like
[2:21:56]
and how our debt is structured.
[2:21:57]
We try to do it so it
remains as flat as possible.
[2:22:00]
So even when you
see some drop off,
[2:22:02]
it might increase
in another area,
[2:22:04]
again, because we try
to always structure
[2:22:06]
our debt in a way
that keeps it flat
[2:22:08]
so we don't see
those large swings.
[2:22:12]
MALE SPEAKER:
Sarah, our debt levy
[2:22:15]
is mainly due to our new
law enforcement center.
[2:22:18]
Is that a big portion of that?
[2:22:19]
SARAH: So, half?
[2:22:21]
What do you think,
Paula, about half?
[2:22:24]
It's little, but you
can see, we've got--
[2:22:28]
let's see, that one
comes off this year.
[2:22:30]
So we had a 2018
equipment certificate
[2:22:32]
that got paid off in '14.
[2:22:34]
The 2019 debt service
for the GSB, so in 2019,
[2:22:38]
we had two issues because of the
project and how we broke it up.
[2:22:42]
So those are on there.
[2:22:44]
Those are about-- let's
see, between the two--
[2:22:50]
about $700,000 for
that payment that
[2:22:54]
goes up to a little
over eight in the last
[2:22:56]
year of payment in 2033.
[2:22:59]
And then the jail, the
2022 jail bonds are at 2.9.
[2:23:05]
So of the 4.5, 2.9 right
now is the jail bonds.
[2:23:12]
And then there was a
2016 crossover refunding.
[2:23:16]
So when you have other
bonds that you might
[2:23:19]
refund and restructure
at any point in time,
[2:23:22]
you got refunding bonds.
[2:23:23]
So that is done in '28.
[2:23:28]
So again, in 2029, we'll see a
decrease in our bond payment.
[2:23:32]
So the next couple of years,
it'll be the same amount,
[2:23:36]
and that'll help, with
the levy in that year,
[2:23:39]
offset that-- again,
unless other decisions
[2:23:41]
are made in the
meantime that might
[2:23:42]
change our debt service needs.
[2:23:50]
Our capital projects
fund, that's another one
[2:23:52]
I'd just like to highlight.
[2:23:54]
Last year, in order to
get the levy where it was,
[2:23:57]
we removed our
annual contribution
[2:24:02]
to the capital projects fund.
[2:24:04]
So those are things
for facility needs.
[2:24:06]
When you have a more
major structural capital
[2:24:09]
type project with
facilities, we use that fund.
[2:24:11]
So in 2025, we used
some of it and then
[2:24:17]
we did not contribute to it.
[2:24:20]
And then this year,
we are doing it again.
[2:24:22]
So we're going to
be using $83,000
[2:24:26]
for projects that we have, and
we're going to be levying 100.
[2:24:32]
Actually, we did levy
for it last year.
[2:24:34]
One year, we didn't but
anyhow, sorry about that.
[2:24:37]
We are going to be using 80-- so
that's the use of fund balance,
[2:24:40]
is about $83,000 in projects
that are more capital in nature
[2:24:43]
that we're going to be
using from that fund,
[2:24:45]
and then we'll have
that net of the 100
[2:24:48]
that we're going to be levying.
[2:24:51]
You're going to be having some
meetings coming up regarding
[2:24:54]
environmental services
in the landfill,
[2:24:56]
some studies that's going to
talk about rates and things
[2:24:58]
like that.
[2:24:59]
But that environmental services
fund is a self-sustaining fund
[2:25:02]
at this point.
[2:25:03]
But again, you will be looking
at studies, landfill needs,
[2:25:06]
changes in legislation
that might impact
[2:25:09]
our expenses going forward.
[2:25:10]
Those presentations
will be forthcoming.
[2:25:20]
Oops, sorry.
[2:25:20]
MALE SPEAKER: Could you
go back a page, Sarah?
[2:25:23]
MALE SPEAKER: Yes, go ahead.
[2:25:24]
MALE SPEAKER: Thank you.
[2:25:25]
The tax rate proposed
for '26 is 38.9%.
[2:25:29]
What was it this last
year, in '25 year?
[2:25:33]
SARAH: 37.
[2:25:34]
MALE SPEAKER: 37?
[2:25:36]
SARAH: Yep.
[2:25:38]
We've come down from, like,
you see we were in the 40s.
[2:25:42]
I mean, it's kind of just
bouncing back and forth here
[2:25:44]
depending on where we're at.
[2:25:49]
MALE SPEAKER: And how
does this look compared
[2:25:50]
to surrounding counties?
[2:25:52]
SARAH: Yep, and I can
get the most recent.
[2:25:54]
I don't have it on me, but
we're typically in the lower
[2:25:57]
of the tax rates in the state.
[2:26:00]
But there is annually
a report that comes out
[2:26:03]
that shows that information,
so we're in the better
[2:26:09]
off of the tax rate counties.
[2:26:10]
We're not the lowest.
[2:26:11]
That's usually like a
county to the north of us
[2:26:14]
in particular that stays
towards the bottom.
[2:26:19]
Yeah, no, we sit
really nice, but there
[2:26:20]
are reports that
come out annually
[2:26:21]
and I can get that information.
[2:26:25]
So part of our 2026 budget
also includes the use
[2:26:28]
of fund balance and reserves.
[2:26:30]
So in most instances, it's from
money that has been set aside
[2:26:37]
for special purposes,
one time money
[2:26:39]
that we receive for
special purposes,
[2:26:42]
departments that have fund
balances for specific projects
[2:26:45]
like environmental services--
[2:26:47]
again, one time state
or federal funding.
[2:26:50]
So our projected based on
our use of $2 million for
[2:26:55]
will still have
the estimated fund
[2:26:58]
balances that are shown above.
[2:27:01]
So some things that we're
using fund balances for
[2:27:04]
is, we had some money
set aside when we
[2:27:07]
were going to go self-insured.
[2:27:09]
And so as part of our
health insurance agreements
[2:27:12]
for the next three
years, since we decided
[2:27:14]
not to go self-insured,
we're spending
[2:27:16]
down that employer and employee
portion of those funds.
[2:27:22]
So those were funds that have
been sitting in our reserve that
[2:27:24]
have been dedicated
for that purpose
[2:27:27]
that we're now going to be
spending down because we don't
[2:27:29]
need to hold them
anymore, because we're
[2:27:31]
not going to go self-insured.
[2:27:32]
So we're spending those down.
[2:27:34]
Same thing with some public
safety funds or highway funds
[2:27:38]
or other, again,
one time revenues
[2:27:41]
that we received that we
are intending to spend down.
[2:27:47]
But again, at the
end of the year,
[2:27:50]
we should still have a healthy,
appropriate fund balance.
[2:27:57]
We discussed this the
beginning of the month
[2:28:01]
here, our board agency, the
outside appropriation requests
[2:28:05]
that you heard during August.
[2:28:08]
And so we have our
2025 board approved,
[2:28:11]
the 2026 requested, and
the 2026 board recommends.
[2:28:14]
So after discussion, we've kept
the outside agency requests
[2:28:20]
at their 2025 level and
made adjustments for areas
[2:28:24]
with the two, with
the Historical Society
[2:28:26]
and the Ag Society, where
we pay for the insurance.
[2:28:30]
And those rates went up, and
that's kind of what it is.
[2:28:33]
There's not an option
there, and so those are
[2:28:37]
the only modifications to that.
[2:28:39]
So our level for
outside agency funding
[2:28:42]
goes from $856,256 to $868,661.
[2:28:47]
And that change is just
due to insurance changes,
[2:28:49]
but all other things
remained the same.
[2:28:57]
This, we covered
in detail, but here
[2:28:58]
is the history of what our
county program aid looked like.
[2:29:01]
So you can see where the state
made that infusion of funds,
[2:29:04]
so we got a bump.
[2:29:05]
And then now we're going
back down a little bit,
[2:29:10]
just based on our
demographics of our county
[2:29:12]
compared to others.
[2:29:16]
Adjustment to fees.
[2:29:18]
So when we go through and meet
with departments on the budget,
[2:29:20]
we talk about what are
the fees for service
[2:29:23]
that we have control over.
[2:29:24]
Are they appropriate?
[2:29:25]
Do they need to be changed?
[2:29:27]
In December, you all review the
fee schedule and approve that.
[2:29:31]
So we made changes where we
knew they were going to be made
[2:29:33]
and then we'll present that
fee schedule for discussion
[2:29:36]
in detail in December.
[2:29:40]
Here are some of the different
visual things you can see.
[2:29:43]
We are a service.
[2:29:45]
We provide services, so bulk
of our expenditures by type
[2:29:49]
are personnel.
[2:29:53]
And our revenue.
[2:29:54]
This is where you're going to
see a little bit of flipping
[2:29:57]
from the prior year.
[2:29:58]
So for 2026, 42% of our
budget is property taxes
[2:30:03]
and penalties and 37%
intergovernmental.
[2:30:06]
So that's like our
federal, state,
[2:30:07]
and other governmental
revenues we get in.
[2:30:11]
Last year, it was flipped where
we had I think 34% of our budget
[2:30:18]
was funded by property
taxes and more was
[2:30:20]
funded by intergovernmental.
[2:30:22]
Some of it is due to
decreasing, but also, we
[2:30:27]
had that large
transportation project too.
[2:30:31]
So that kind of skews
us more than normal.
[2:30:34]
Because if we don't
have that project,
[2:30:37]
that doesn't count as funding.
[2:30:38]
So again, take it a little
bit with a grain of salt
[2:30:42]
that those things can make
these changes in something.
[2:30:46]
One project could make those
numbers go back and forth.
[2:30:51]
Our expenditures by function.
[2:30:53]
Again, this is where
you can visually
[2:30:54]
see that last year, road
and bridge was higher
[2:30:58]
than public safety
and social services,
[2:31:01]
again, because of the road
program for that year.
[2:31:03]
This year, the road
program looks different.
[2:31:05]
And so you'll see human services
as being 25% of our expenditure
[2:31:11]
by function, public
safety at 20,
[2:31:13]
and then road and bridge at 17,
and general government at 14.
[2:31:18]
So again, depending on what
some of our programming
[2:31:21]
is for any given year,
what portion of the budget
[2:31:24]
is larger changes
from time to time.
[2:31:30]
Joy was in and
presented on her budget
[2:31:33]
during one of her meetings
earlier this month.
[2:31:37]
So this just, again, talks
about what our levy use is,
[2:31:40]
but she went into detail
with you guys on her budget.
[2:31:47]
And special purpose
funding for 2026
[2:31:50]
that we're still administering,
the opioid litigation funding.
[2:31:54]
We approved an MOA
a little earlier--
[2:31:58]
I think it was actually
still this month--
[2:32:01]
for some services, with
most to be able to continue
[2:32:04]
that program, to provide some
gap funding while they reassess
[2:32:09]
opportunities for other
state or federal sources
[2:32:11]
to keep that going.
[2:32:12]
The spending plan will be
discussed in full in December.
[2:32:15]
We have some community
engagement activities
[2:32:17]
between now and then, but just
know that the opioid litigation
[2:32:20]
funding, that
number might change
[2:32:22]
within the detail of the budget,
but that's not Levy funds.
[2:32:26]
There are eligible certain uses
that we use and we discuss those
[2:32:29]
with community members,
and then the spending plan
[2:32:33]
is presented in December when
we have our final levy meeting.
[2:32:38]
The local homeless prevention
aid for fiscal year '25,
[2:32:43]
again, they're kind
of rolling years.
[2:32:44]
So part of it's this year,
part of it's next year,
[2:32:46]
and same thing in '27.
[2:32:48]
Goes up a little bit
for fiscal year '26,
[2:32:51]
so this is one that the funding
is very specific to support
[2:32:54]
new or existing family
homeless prevention
[2:32:56]
and assistance
projects or programs.
[2:32:59]
We work with other agencies
to administer this funding.
[2:33:04]
It's targeted towards
families with children.
[2:33:06]
So annually, we report on this.
[2:33:08]
I usually give an update in
December about some impact.
[2:33:11]
Again, it's to stabilize
households with children that
[2:33:16]
are school age children in the
homes that are either paying
[2:33:18]
more than 50% of their
income for rent, lacking
[2:33:21]
fixed, regular or
nighttime residence,
[2:33:23]
living in overcrowded
conditions,
[2:33:25]
or facing eviction and things
like that to help stabilize
[2:33:28]
families and provide
connects with organizations
[2:33:31]
to provide wraparound services.
[2:33:32]
So this has been a pretty
successful program.
[2:33:36]
And this was a
legislative appropriation
[2:33:39]
that's pretty specific.
[2:33:40]
We also are in our final
years of the statewide
[2:33:43]
affordable housing aid.
[2:33:44]
So these are for the purposes of
construction acquisition, things
[2:33:48]
that work towards providing and
increasing affordable housing
[2:33:52]
opportunities in the county.
[2:33:54]
We've used our money so far
to support the engineering
[2:33:56]
and design on Twin Oaks.
[2:33:58]
In the last year, we'll be able
to look at other opportunities
[2:34:00]
for how we use that affordable
housing aid in the community
[2:34:04]
for eligible activities.
[2:34:08]
Looking at when we're going
to have our public hearing
[2:34:11]
on the proposed budget
will be Thursday,
[2:34:13]
December 11 at 6:00 PM.
[2:34:16]
So kind of just a note, we
will not have a regular board
[2:34:18]
meeting that week
because that aligns
[2:34:20]
with our annual conference.
[2:34:21]
But then that Thursday, we'll
come together that night
[2:34:24]
for a public hearing.
[2:34:29]
So if you have any questions--
[2:34:34]
MALE SPEAKER: I have a question.
[2:34:35]
MALE SPEAKER: Yes, go ahead.
[2:34:36]
MALE SPEAKER: Do
we have built-in
[2:34:37]
for a downtown
maintenance building here?
[2:34:40]
SARAH: No.
[2:34:42]
So I have some meetings
tomorrow to talk
[2:34:47]
about some different
things with other parties.
[2:34:51]
I know that's very vague.
[2:34:53]
We have some opportunities
to talk about
[2:34:55]
that I'll bring forward to you.
[2:34:56]
This does not include
a building there.
[2:34:58]
That will be part of
an ongoing discussion
[2:35:00]
of how we meet those needs,
but that is not in this budget.
[2:35:08]
MALE SPEAKER: Any other
questions, commissioners?
[2:35:10]
MALE SPEAKER: Uh, yeah.
[2:35:12]
SARAH: I know, it's
a lot of information.
[2:35:14]
And we'll keep working this
through to the end of the year
[2:35:16]
as we get more information,
more clarity on changes.
[2:35:19]
The prelim you set
next week is the max.
[2:35:22]
We can't go lower.
[2:35:24]
Besides this grant that we heard
back from, unless some funding
[2:35:29]
opportunities return to
us or loosen up a bit,
[2:35:32]
I'm not going to say
that I anticipate
[2:35:35]
that it's going to get
much lower than what it is.
[2:35:37]
If anything, we're going
to look a little worse
[2:35:39]
and we'll have to accommodate
in one area or another.
[2:35:42]
But we can't go higher than
what you set next week.
[2:35:47]
MALE SPEAKER: Well, I
appreciate the pie charts.
[2:35:50]
I'm a visual guy and I can
relate to that quite well.
[2:35:57]
Yeah.
[2:35:58]
MALE SPEAKER: I do
have a question.
[2:35:59]
MALE SPEAKER: Go ahead.
[2:36:00]
MALE SPEAKER: What percent
of this 8.9% or 8.8 levy
[2:36:06]
is personnel, between
health insurance?
[2:36:11]
SARAH: Yep, one moment here.
[2:36:12]
I'll get that for you.
[2:36:17]
And some of that's a little--
[2:36:19]
again, I talked about it's
not a one-for-one on the levy
[2:36:21]
because of all of that.
[2:36:22]
But I can show you of our
budget, so of the $106 million,
[2:36:30]
54% of that is
personnel services.
[2:36:33]
It's staff.
[2:36:34]
So how that kind of
proportionately shakes out just
[2:36:37]
depends on what
percentage of a position
[2:36:39]
might be funded by
another source-- grant,
[2:36:43]
state, federal reimbursement.
[2:36:44]
So it's easier to
say of our budget,
[2:36:48]
here's what personnel
expenses are.
[2:36:50]
I don't know, Paula,
if you've got another--
[2:36:56]
FEMALE SPEAKER: It's
complicated, because I can say,
[2:36:58]
let's say that we have funding
sources in there for that,
[2:37:01]
and that we do
support that budget.
[2:37:05]
But we can tell you
what the total is.
[2:37:07]
We can we tell you what the
comparison is from last year
[2:37:11]
to this year to break it down by
types of benefits and overtime,
[2:37:16]
and things like that.
[2:37:19]
SARAH: Yep, and our personnel
again increased a little
[2:37:21]
over 3 million, but
that doesn't one-for-one
[2:37:24]
go on our levy increase, just
because some of those positions
[2:37:27]
are funded differently.
[2:37:30]
MALE SPEAKER: I understand
it's a hard number to hit.
[2:37:32]
SARAH: Yeah.
[2:37:33]
So if we look at last year,
we were down, around 52,
[2:37:37]
high $52 million for personnel.
[2:37:40]
That includes health care,
taxes, all those things.
[2:37:48]
MALE SPEAKER: So
Sarah, basically,
[2:37:50]
just so people understand, I
think transparency is the best
[2:37:54]
thing we can be right now as
far as what we're up against
[2:37:58]
and what we're doing.
[2:38:02]
Oh, gosh.
[2:38:02]
I lost my train of thought.
[2:38:06]
Well, one thing--
and Susie or Sarah,
[2:38:09]
how available is the
public to these pie charts,
[2:38:12]
so they can see what we're
doing and what we're up against?
[2:38:16]
SARAH: Yeah, so once we're
done with this presentation,
[2:38:17]
we can upload it in the
packet so people can see it.
[2:38:20]
MALE SPEAKER: So that would
be out on our website?
[2:38:23]
SARAH: Yep.
[2:38:23]
MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, OK.
[2:38:25]
I think that's important.
[2:38:27]
Yeah, I don't know.
[2:38:30]
Did anybody else have anything?
[2:38:32]
SARAH: I think Commissioner
Peter stopped in a couple times
[2:38:36]
for some of our
department meetings
[2:38:38]
to see our process behind
the scenes and the work
[2:38:41]
that we put in ahead of
bringing it to you all.
[2:38:44]
So I think this year, I'm very
thankful to the departments
[2:38:46]
for coming in,
understanding the situation.
[2:38:49]
We had a much lower
initial request
[2:38:52]
than we have in other
years, because everyone
[2:38:54]
knew this is not the year
to ask for anything new.
[2:38:56]
We need to figure
out how to sustain
[2:38:58]
or how to make changes to
accommodate for any cuts, which
[2:39:01]
was a good thing but it
also made it a lot harder
[2:39:03]
to find those areas where we
could get it down from that
[2:39:07]
15% down to something under 10.
[2:39:09]
It made the work
a little harder.
[2:39:11]
And social services in
particular put a lot of work
[2:39:13]
into evaluating things.
[2:39:15]
One area I should have
highlighted when we're talking
[2:39:17]
about-- and I didn't.
[2:39:18]
Let me pull it up here
real quick again--
[2:39:21]
that kind of helped us get
that last little mile here,
[2:39:25]
let me see if it's on.
[2:39:28]
And it might not be.
[2:39:29]
It's not going to be in
this chart, I don't think.
[2:39:34]
Oh, maybe.
[2:39:35]
So this thing called
contingency fund.
[2:39:37]
What it is, is
anticipated wage savings.
[2:39:41]
And that's the number we work
with a little bit at the end
[2:39:43]
to try to get us down.
[2:39:45]
So we look at what's our
usual savings in a given
[2:39:50]
year because of vacancies
and time to fill,
[2:39:52]
and things like that.
[2:39:53]
And then in particular,
like in social services,
[2:39:55]
we looked at with some of
the changes that are coming,
[2:39:59]
do we have some positions
that are going to have a leg
[2:40:01]
and being filled?
[2:40:03]
Because we're going
to pivot what service
[2:40:05]
we're needing to provide based
on what we're mandated to do.
[2:40:09]
And so we changed that
number from that $1,044,000
[2:40:14]
that we have as an
offset of wage savings,
[2:40:16]
to $1,283,000 based on--