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It is Thursday, October 8th. It's 9 o'clock. Please rise and join me in the pledge.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic
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for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for
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all.
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I guess I forgot to say it, but call this meeting to order. Um, but I do. Uh. Our
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first item, for the record, there was no public comment this morning. And our first
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item up is
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Are we doing the canvas? OK. It's a document for signature for appointment of supplemental
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election judges. Good morning, Commissioners. Paula Buff, Flathead County Election
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Administrator. The document for signature before you, um, is a list of election judges
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that we trained on a supplemental basis on the 15th and 22nd of September. These
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judges have completed this training and meet the required election judge qualifications
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pursuant to MCA 134107 and have completed the required training per
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134203. Their assignments are listed below. It is hereby requested that the Flathead
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County Board of Commissioners appoint the supplemental election judges listed below
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to work the November 3rd general election and all further elections held prior to
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the 2028 primary election. Judges may be added or removed as necessary. Mr. Chair,
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I move signature to the appointment of supplemental election judges. I have a motion
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to second. Is there further discussion. I just want to thank the judges that do this.
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They commit a tremendous amount of energy and a day out of their lives, and it is
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very valuable for Flathead County. Agreed. Thank you. Is there further discussion?
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Hearing none. All those in favor? Aye oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. Thank you,
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Paul. Thank you. I gave you guys the original that I had signed. Oh, OK.
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Our next item up is a document for signature. SFY
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DP 27 DPHHS contract amendment. Good morning, Commissioners. Mandy Fleming with the
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Health Department. This contract supports the implementation of the Personal Responsibility
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Education Program, as well as the sexual risk avoidance education program. They've
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been, um, these are evidence-based prevention education programs that we provide
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in the Flathead Valley. The curriculums focus on healthy relationships, communication,
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decision-making, resisting peer pressure, and avoiding risky behavior. Data from
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both programs shows positive outcomes. SRA data shows that 83% of youth were more
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likely to better understand what makes a relationship healthy. 72% were more likely
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to care about doing well in school and 69% were more likely to resist or say no to
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peer pressure. PrEP data showed that, sorry, 72% of them were more likely to plan
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and reach their goals, 73% were more likely to be respectful to others, and 5. 3%
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of participants reported being more likely to talk with a parent or guardian about
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sensitive topics. We've been implementing this program for over 15 years. Um, last
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year alone, our health educator provided education at 7 locations across multiple
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grade levels and reached more than 400 students. Mr. Chair, I move the document for
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signature SFY 27 DPHHS contract amendment. Second, I have a motion to second
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the discussion. I do have just a comment. Mandy, thank you for the statistics on
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the success of this. So often we, we, we see these things and we don't necessarily
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hear the results. The results are very important for me as a commissioner and for
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our taxpayers. Thank you. You're welcome.
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Is there further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, same sign. motion
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carries. Thank you.
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Our next item up is. A document for signature task order amendment 3, personal
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responsibility education program, prep and sexual risk avoidance education, S R A
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E. Is that just what we did? OK. OK, we already did that. Then we are in recess until
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9:15.
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It is 9:15. I call our meeting back to order. Our first item up is our bi-monthly
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meeting with Terry Dugan from the library. Good morning, Terry.
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Hello, Terry Dugan from the library. Happy to be here this morning to give you our
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monthly update of stuff going on at the library. I'm happy to report that it's kind
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of business as usual. We're over our summer, um, super busy time, and we're just
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kind of settling into the fall. School starts, our programming kind of settles down,
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and we're just doing, um, day to day business, which is great because we love to
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do that. Um, I wanna give you an update on the letter of intent that we have with
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shop development regarding the Kalispell future possible library. That letter is
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still in their hands. The library board had asked for a response or at least um an
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acknowledgement of that at the end of, by the end of September. We have not received
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anything and so, um, we are actively looking at other opportunities and see what,
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um, keeping our options open for what that could look like. So we're not quite sure
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what that means, but, um, we're, we're ready to look at other things as well. Terry,
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could you go a little deeper into that? That's the parcel by the um by the wall.
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Red, Reddy, can you. In the microphone, sorry, that's parcel by the mall. Yes, that's
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that two acre piece that we had requested by the mall kind of at the west end, um,
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and we had kind of indicated our interest to them quite a while ago, but they've
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kind of pulled back from any commitment on that. They've said that they would, um,
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sign the letter and kind of given us verbal, um. Communication, but we have not seen
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that in the form of an official signature. OK, great. Thank you.
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Um, our feasibility study continues anyway, which is something we need to do. Our,
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um, Our brand raise consultants are doing a great job interviewing lots of people,
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having focus groups. We have that survey out there, it ends tomorrow. It's the last
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day of that. We have 225 responses, which is great. We'd love to get more, but um
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not everybody likes to take the time to do those surveys. It is, you can answer it
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anonymously. I think the only required Um, category is your zip code. So that's,
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that's fine for folks that want to just answer that way. Um, our Columbia Falls Library,
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we are looking to the future for that location. The city of Columbia Falls has approached
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us, which we really appreciate, just saying, hey, in the future, we really need this
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space. We've been in there since the 1960s and they've grown since then. Their administration
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needs that, that space within City Hall, and so they're actively helping us look
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for possible other locations and we've had some really nice um Possible leads of
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what that could look like. I know we're a few years out, maybe 2 or 3 years out,
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but Um, that's a promising, promising partnership with the city there as well.
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Um, just as a side note, the Columbia Falls Library sees about 60,000 people a year.
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So it's a super busy library, especially with businesses and, uh, business printing.
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They actually print more copies than Kalispell does. They're just a, a business hub
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for that area. Terry, that's, that's visitors. Um, but it might be the same visitor
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more than once would be counted in that, or is those individuals that's actually
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just door counts, yeah, so it could be a person coming once a month or whatever,
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yeah, yeah. Um, our Evergreen, um, smart locker which we ordered is, is coming. Um,
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we have a site at the Evergreen Middle School there. We've met with the school district
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and they are super excited to partner with us. And we have an electrician going next
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week to get that site ready for the electrical part of that. And that unit will be
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installed. It'll be 18 lockers of bookholds that people will put on hold online and
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be able to pick them up and return them in Evergreen. So we're really excited to
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see what that looks like for services in that area cause we know that's a need, so.
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That's kind of a pilot project. See how that works.
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Um, Marion, we've reestablished our Marion Holds pickup. We started on September
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21st. The school there has volunteers, parent volunteers that kind of organize and
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they come to the library once a week. And we're excited to have that back in business.
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I'm not sure of those numbers yet. I'm curious to see how that, how that's used,
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um, but we're happy to be able to, to supply that again.
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Um, our Lakeside Library, as you know, too, it's a volunteer library, it's not our
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library, but it is a holds pickup library, and we do have our courier go there once,
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sometimes twice a week to take holds, pick up holds, folks can use that library as
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well. So we're really trying to get our, our services out through the county where
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we can. It's a big county, as you know, and so, um, we're trying to think of ways
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that we can help people get those library materials, um. Into the hands where it's
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more convenient for them.
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Um, staffing, we have a few open positions at the library. We have two part-time
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materials handlers position, that's kind of our entry level where folks come in and
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they make sure all our, our materials are handled, put in the right place so they
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can be found again. It could be absolute chaos if we don't put things back right
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where they belong. So there, there is a, a technique to that. Um, we also have a
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custodian position available. We have, we had a library courier that had to, um,
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retire and she, um, She was sad to go and we were sad to see her go, but she did
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want to retire and so one of our custodians applied for the, the courier position
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and they're doing a great job and we're excited, but of course, that opened up the
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courier position. So we'll be filling that. And also a technology manager position.
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Um, our IT technology administrator, Sam Crompton has retired and we're happy for
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him, but now we need to fill that position. So we have applications open for that
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and so far we, we've received one application, so we're looking at that, but we hope
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to get that filled within a um short time. Tony and I are handling those IT things
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in the meantime. And the county has been absolutely phenomenal with helping us. We'll
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call over to IT and say, hey, what is this if we get stuck, and they've been really
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great. So, do we have Um Have we looked at bringing
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IT just under one umbrella here like we've done out at FECC? Yes, we have. I know
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Justin and Terry have talked a little bit about that. Um, I would encourage exploring
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that more, um.
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But again, I think it's kind of up to the director and the board of trustees to make
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that, but yes, it has been discussed, especially with the opportunity of having the
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vacancy, efficiency thing
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same thing we do with 911. Yeah, same thing with the custodial service.
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I mean you could, you could find some synergies in economies of scale with custodian
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service and potentially the security as well. Yeah, yeah, anyway, just, just, just
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checking, thanks.
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Um, let's see, library count week. We just finished our library count week every
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year. We do statistics for the state library and we fill out a very large survey.
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They use those statistics to send to this, um, federal agency that they report to.
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And so that's quite a big process, but, um, This past week, we, we tracked reference
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questions because we're a big referral. We're information and referral, people will
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come to us and ask about Social Security or voting or registration or different um
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medical things that we find that information for them and send them to where they
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need to go. We, so that's kind of our bread and butter is referring those, those
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um that information to folks. And so, we track those which is really important and
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um That's always a fun time to tracking those. We've got lots of statistics, and
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then we have to figure out what to do with them. Um, and we do plan on getting that
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state funding, that state aid this year, um, that usually comes around in October
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and part of that reporting of those statistics goes toward that state aid as well,
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um, cause that's a required thing that we do. Happy to answer any questions. I don't
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have any. Thank you. Thank you. OK, thank you. Appreciate it. Does the, do the two
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board members have anything they'd like to share?
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OK, we, we are in recess until 9:30. Thanks.
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I, I call our meeting back to order. It's 9:30. It's our first item up is a COS review
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for Kelvin Gordon Graham, FSE 26-06. Good morning, Commissioners.
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Ella Jordan with uh Planning and zoning. Uh, so the matter at hand is potential evasion
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of the Montana Subdivision and Platting Act. Uh, the clerk and recorder office issued
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a letter indicating a proposed family transfer division may be an invasion of the
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Montana Subdivision and Planning Act because it exhibits a pattern of development
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under the Flathead County subdivision regulations. They are proposing in the new
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COS to divide the existing 3.72 acre parcel into two parcels and transferring it
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from to the spouse of the property owner. This would mean there are
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4 total tracks created.
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Since I guess 2003, uh, plus a remainder tract. Do you have any questions for me?
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Um, I don't see any of the consultants or the applicant. For questions, I'm sure
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they were notified. So
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Who notifies him?
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I let reporters know that this is going on and then I right so who, who notifies
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the applicant.
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The like the The clerk and recorder, I think it's clerk and recorder, OK. Well, I,
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I had some questions. I, so I don't know that, um, But I can proceed today with
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this. All right, yeah, I, I, I moved the table. I'll second that. I have a motion
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in a second. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor. Aye,
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aye oppose same sign. Motion carries back to order. Our first item up is our bi-monthly
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meeting with Liz Wood from Mountain Climber. Good morning, Commissioners. Liz Wood,
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director for Mountain Climber. Uh, we'll start with some safety. On our September
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22nd all-staff lunch meeting, we had Eli come visit us from the health department.
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He provided some instruction um on recognizing signs of opioid, opioid overdose and
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safety handling and administering of the naloxone. Um, I would just say that our
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drivers were very engaged in that. Uh, they always like it when we have a guest come
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and present for us and they were really engaged in that training, so it was good
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to have. Um, we went over lift mechanisms and safety troubleshooting on our two new
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vans. They are slightly different than our other Ford Transits. Our previous Ford
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Transits had the rear, um, lifts. These have side shift and, um, I guess
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deployment of the lift. So, we went over that with the drivers in case any of them
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were to have to switch vehicles. We like them to all be trained on all the equipment.
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Um, winter safety is rolled out, so we've got all of our snow tires already on all
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of our vehicles. So we like to get ahead of the busy season on that, so we're not
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stressing the tire shop out and we are good to go. Um, we've got all our salt buckets
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out, our sand barrels, uh, for them to fill up and have on their vehicles. Our cleat
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sign up sheets are out, so we'll make sure that everyone's got their proper safety.
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Feet out there on those icy roads when they come upon us. Um, ridership for this
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first quarter of this new fiscal year is down a little bit. Um, I do have the ridership.
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chart there. Um Basically, we have not been slower, I can tell you that. So what
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we experienced this summer, one, we did not have our seasonal driver this year. Our
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usual seasonal driver did not return this year, so we were kind of behind on getting
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that posted and getting that filled. Um, so we did not have that seasonal job this
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year. We also had like 2.5. Drivers at any given point that were out for medical
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leave this year, um, surgeries and such, so it really put us really behind on, on
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driver availability. So even though it reflects fewer rides over last year, we just
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had significantly fewer driver hours out there to provide those rides. So we were
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still very busy. I just want to kind of give an explanation on that. So Liz, that
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meant that when they tried to apply for, they went to via, they tried to get into
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it. They would have got a not available message, correct? Yes, either that or it's
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about 50% still of the riders that will call our office and visit with Brian or Eric
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on the phone and then they deny him the trip. So when, so we track those numbers
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also, do we show that as a spike in those numbers too? I will have to get back with
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you on that. I'll try to have a really good breakdown for you guys in our next report.
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Yeah, um, I mean, I'd be, I'd be guessing that we, it was probably maintaining. I
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don't really feel like it was a significant increase in that. I feel like it pretty
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maintained about the same percentage, but I'd be guessing if I figure that out. So
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I'll get that information for you next time, yeah. Um, so that gives you a little
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explanation on that. Um, our ridership for first quarter, as I mentioned, was down.
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It was down 1,205 rides. So, to give you an idea for July, August and September,
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about 1200 rides. Um, that being said, you're, this, this This year over the year,
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2 years ago, we're still significantly higher. So, I know I mentioned every, every
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report with you folks last year that um we were higher, higher, higher. We had significant
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increases all last year. So, we're still higher, significantly higher than FY 25.
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So, we're just still seeing that increase over a couple of years ago. Um.
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FY 26 breakdown, um, I gave that to you last time, but I just want to put a reminder
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in there of who we're serving, and we're still maintaining this for the first quarter
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of FY 27. So 46% of our rides are for what we call general public. 28% are provided
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to folks with disabilities, and 20, I think I said 28%, and 26% for older adults.
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So we're still very pleased with that. We're not seeing that number do any significant
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jumps in any direction, so it really demonstrates that we are servicing everyone
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in the community that needs that ride. We're not favoring our general ridership over
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our seniors or folks with disabilities, so we're very pleased with that. Um, a few
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updates, um, on operations and programming. Um, our grant funding, so we did have
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that grant application, um, and contract signed from the commissioners, but I just
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wanted to give you a heads up that that will probably be showing back up, um, in
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the EDoc signature email for you, Brad, or in your email. Um, they have a, a couple
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slight minor um additions on that. Um, they're basically just adding in
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Um, they're adding in the, the contract year and then they're adding in the FAN number.
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So very minimal changes on that, but that will come back before you commissioners
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for approval again here in the next few days. Um. MDT is still reviewing our
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capital requests for this year. Um, I have not heard any word back as to whether
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or not they're going to award us the two vans that we applied for or our paving project.
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So, that still is just maintaining. I will be visiting with Whitney to move forward
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with that, either way. Um, so, we can start planning for that to put that out for
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RFP, um. In the spring, uh, well, probably late winter, uh, but I'll get with Whitney
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on that to move forward on that. Um. We did receive word that the state has announced
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that they are not going to be accepting any applications for capital for FY 28. So
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we had originally planned to put in for 4 more vans next year for FY 28. Uh, they
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just have such a backlog on, um, trying for procurement, procurement on these vehicles
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that they're just not going to be taking any applications this next year. So that's
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a little unfortunate. So Liz, is that because of the Uh, the state, uh state backlog
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in their ability to process, or is it because the manufacturers have a backlog? It
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is the state, so they've, yeah, it's, it's a bit of a struggle right now, um, so
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it's, it's not, it's not, it's leaving a lot of these transit agencies in some significant
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tough spots. I mean our. Our current fleet, and it's not just ours, it's across the
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state, um, the state of disrepair and the cost for our maintenance is pretty significant.
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So, a lot of these agencies are, are gonna be in a tough spot. Um, so we won't be
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putting in for those next year unless something changes, but, uh, last word we heard,
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they will not be accepting any applications for capital. So that'll make us continue
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to use the bigger vans longer or bigger buses. It will, and like we, we have a vehicle
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that we have had in the shop. Um, we just put it out for one day and it's back in
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the shop and it's got 14 errors on it, so 14 codes thrown on it, and it's just like
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good night. So. Some of these vehicles significant, really high mileage, and it's
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really hitting us, so. Yeah, we're not the only ones, but it is, it is hurting us.
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Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Um, so last report I reported that we completed,
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we were selected for an FDA drug and alcohol audit, one of our, uh, a couple of our
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final things that we're working on, um, and Tammy may have already rolled this out,
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but we had a few additions and changes to our drug and alcohol policy for the county
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because of this, um, and then additionally, Uh, one of the findings was tracking
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of our scheduled drug tests. And I want to thank IT for helping us get that rolled
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out super quick. So they have that for us now to utilize. Um, so we'll be basically,
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when we schedule those random drug tests, we will have a designated area in which
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we can schedule those and I, um, HR can see those and know that we have scheduled
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those tests and follow up on that. Um, so, thank you to IT for getting right on that.
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Uh, and it's not like they don't have a bunch of projects. So, they're awesome. Uh,
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staffing updates, we still have the part-time driver position that we posted a few
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months back. Um, And then we just had a driver that did resign. He's going to be
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moving out of state, so we have a full-time driver position posted, but As I always
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say, I'm super blessed because it seems like right at that moment when we really
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need those applicants, they come in. So, in the last few days, I've had 3 applicants
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and they look very promising and we have a couple of interviews scheduled today.
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So, I'm just blessed because I've never really been without the drivers to speak
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of. Um, so, I'm super excited for those interviews that we have scheduled. Um, but
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if you know of anyone, we do have a full-time driver position that is going to be
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posted probably today. And then we still have the part-time. So, we'd be happy to
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take any other individuals that are interested in applying for that. Uh, service
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planning, we are currently in the middle of our planning process for this next year,
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uh, the planning that we have to do for our 5311 grant, uh, application process.
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Um, so, a lot of the same stuff there. I just reiterated for this, um, report. Uh,
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continued discussions on fare increases, but we aren't making really much headway
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in that discussion. There's just a lot going on in our TAC meeting, so we have tabled
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that to our December meeting again. Um, we're still looking at increased financial
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participation from our municipalities. I'm feeling better about those discussions,
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uh, We launched a community transportation needs assessment survey in October. So,
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you might see those QR codes floating around and I would encourage um anyone that
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you might know that might benefit from transportation to fill that out just to give
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us an idea of what their needs are for transportation in the valley. Um, so, the
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information we collect from this survey will help us with our 5311 grant application
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process. Um, we did move our annual public meetings from December to October, so
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I do have our Kalispell annual public meeting that will be held today this afternoon
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from 1:30 to 3, and that will be over at the Agency on Aging, well, the South Campus
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building up on the second floor meeting room. Um, and then this evening, we'll have
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our, uh, Whitefish annual public meeting that will be held at the Whitefish City
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Council chambers from 7 until 8:30. Um, We did participate.
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In a vendor expo, the Navigating Aging Expo that was held by IPAGA Healthcare, um,
[27:23]
that was over at the mall, and we really enjoyed doing that. It was on a Saturday
[27:28]
and we had a couple, uh, staff that were willing to go man that booth, and it was
[27:31]
a good day, and we had a lot of good interactions with some folks from the public
[27:35]
that really could benefit from our services. Um, so, for community engagement, um,
[27:42]
I just want to put a reminder out there that we do have some openings on our transportation
[27:47]
advisory Committee still. We did get some recently filled this year, but, um, we
[27:54]
still have some openings. So, we would love to have anyone in the public that has
[27:57]
an interest in transportation that would like to join us to apply for that. And our
[28:02]
next Transportation Advisory Committee meeting will be held on December 3rd. Um,
[28:07]
at the usual time over at the South Campus. Any questions? Yeah, you gave them naloxone.
[28:16]
Training. Have any of the drivers had to use that? They have not. They have not,
[28:21]
but they carry it all the time. They do. We have it on our vehicles at all times
[28:24]
and we had some of them take it home. They have teenagers in the home or something.
[28:29]
I mean, it's just, it's one of those things that you just never know nowadays who,
[28:34]
what, where. It's good training to have, I think, and can make a real difference
[28:39]
in saving someone's life. And you get that through the health department, yes. And
[28:44]
really anyone can get those. They have an endless supply of it. Anyone that would
[28:48]
like to pick that up, they can stop in there and get some and have it at their house,
[28:51]
have it in their cars, wherever they'd like. So yeah, I've gone through there and
[28:55]
seen this. They just got a box of it sitting out. Yeah, yeah, OK. That was my only
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question. Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, commissioner. We'll be in recess
[29:05]
for about 2 minutes. It is 10 o'clock. I call our meeting back to order. Our first
[29:10]
item up is an award and RFP for the Public Safety Facility commissioning agent. Good
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morning, Whitney Ashawald Commissioner's Office. We received 4 proposals for this
[29:22]
commissioning agent, um. Two of the proposals did not submit the required signed
[29:28]
cover sheet, so we did discuss it with legal, and since it was a requirement of the
[29:33]
proposal, they recommended that those two be disqualified. So our review team moved
[29:38]
forward with scoring the remaining two proposals. Um, Elkhorn Commissioning received
[29:43]
a score of 615 and Northwest Technical Services received a score of 600. So our recommendation,
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excuse me, would be to move forward with Elkhorn commissioning.
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Mr. Chair, I move The uh uh To award the RFP for the Public Safety Facility
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commissioning agent to Elkhorn Elkhorn Commissioning. 2nd. I have a motion to 2nd
[30:16]
is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor, aye, oppose same sign,
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motion carries.
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Our next item is consideration of authorization to publish an RFQ for the North Fork
[30:30]
Guardrail Replacement Project. Yeah, this is just to start the process to hiring
[30:35]
that engineering firm. So we had put it out um for them to submit proposals. Mr.
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Chair, I move authorization to publish an RFQ for North Fork Guardrail replacement
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project. Say again. I have a motion to second as there further discussion. Hearing
[30:53]
none, all those in favor. Aye, aye, both same sign, motion carries. Thank you. We
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are in recess until 10:15.
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You have to go out cutting out on the river. Yeah, it's like Lucy Clark did look
[31:10]
where they were up and they were.
[31:14]
They were, you looked it up. There's several islands out there that are public. Are
[31:17]
you ready? It is 10:15. Um, our first item up is consideration of SIA for East Village
[31:25]
phase one.
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Good morning, Commissioners. Ella Jordan, Planning and Zoning. Uh, so there has been
[31:35]
a request to extend the SIA for Eagle Run or East Village, sorry, um, East Village
[31:43]
Phase One. The applicant originally provided cash collateral which remains on deposit
[31:48]
with the Fly County treasurer and continues to be valid at this time. The Original
[31:57]
SIA expires on October 15th of 2026. Uh, the extension deadline request was,
[32:05]
uh, On September 1st, 2026. And uh they have provided the
[32:13]
uh 125% surety in cash.
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Uh, they're requesting to extend the SIA to January 31st of
[32:26]
2027. 27 202,020. Uh, recruitment required
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improvement shall be fully completed by January 31st, 2027. Mr. Chair, I move SIA
[32:41]
extension for East Village Phase One in the amount of $235,000. 2nd, I have a question.
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Um, Mr. Chair, uh, could you, and this may be for Eric, Eric, are you the representative?
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Um, I represent WSI. I'm not OK, so what has been done in the past year
[33:04]
on this that, that would say it's an extension, but they're moving ahead with, with
[33:09]
work? Um, I don't believe we've been given that information. You might have a better,
[33:16]
um, understanding of. Yeah, it's They've completed
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$5,438,611.61. And they have 188,000 left, which
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with the 125% remaining is 235,000.
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I just, and I didn't, I didn't find that, Commissioner Holmquist, where did you find
[33:42]
what they've completed in the past year? I got it in my inbox in my office, and it's
[33:48]
on the back. Page of that If you go back to the last page, it'll show
[33:56]
you, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, we should have all got that. I think we got that.
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I just wasn't sure which, which of that's been completed since they got the original
[34:07]
SIA. Looks like they've completed 97% if you go back to page.
[34:15]
Go back one page and it'll show you what's 100% completed. OK. It listed dryer
[34:22]
utilities, OK, all that. All right. I just, I, I just wanted to make sure that this
[34:27]
project hasn't stalled at all. And, uh, so have you been out on site? No, not for
[34:33]
this. OK. All right, thank you. So I have a motion in a second. Is there further
[34:37]
discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye oppose same sign. Motion carries.
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Our next item is a consideration of an SIA extension for Eagle Run.
[34:53]
Hello Jordan planning and zoning. Um, so we received the request to extend the timeline
[34:59]
for the previously approved SIA for Eagle Run. Uh, the applicant has provided a revised
[35:06]
agreement, the required engineer certification, and an updated letter of credit which
[35:10]
carries a maturity date of September 30th, 2027. Um, the original SIA was set to
[35:17]
expire on August 16th of 2026 and the deadline was July 6, 2026. Um,
[35:25]
the letter of credit that is currently Um
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On file expires on October 15, 2026. Do you have any questions,
[35:39]
Mr. Chair? I'd move. Um, the SA extension for Eagle Run.
[35:47]
I'll second it. I have a motion to second it for the discussion. Mr. Chair, I have
[35:51]
the same question. Do you know what's been completed in the past year? Um, let's
[35:57]
see. It looks like
[36:02]
The improvements have not been completed. They've provided. A TDNH
[36:10]
Engineering provided an invoice of the work completed and the work remaining. And
[36:16]
those work, the work completed, do you know if that was in the past year or if that
[36:21]
was before that, and I think. Coming up to rescue you, Erin planning and zoning,
[36:26]
um, so we don't require that info with their SIA extension request, um, but if we
[36:31]
were to have the previous SIA and the, you know, estimates, um, that would, I guess,
[36:35]
allow for a comparison, but I don't believe we have that in front of us right now
[36:39]
at this moment, um, but yeah, we just We, we don't require that. Only for we don't
[36:44]
do a site visit to make not until the essay has been completed, then we go out and
[36:48]
verify. OK, thank you. Is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor.
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I propose same sign. Motion carries. Our next one up is consideration of an SIA extension
[37:02]
for Tamarack Meadows. Erin, effort planning and zoning. This is a request to extend
[37:07]
the SIA for Tamarack Meadows. The um estimates from the engineer indicates that they
[37:14]
are 99% complete, um. There's an existing bond that will not expire
[37:21]
um in the New SIA would expire June 30th, 2027. And it is
[37:29]
in the amount of $94,693.75.
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I move SIA extension for Tamarack Meadows in the amount of $94,693.75.
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I have a motion to second for further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor.
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Aye, aye, oppose same sign. Motion carries. We are in recess until 10:30.
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It is 10:30. I call our meeting back to order. Our first item up is Preliminary plat
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for Homestead Bluff.
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Erin Eppert, planning and zoning. So, this is a request for preliminary plot approval
[38:18]
of a one-lot residential subdivision. The property is approximately 25 acres and
[38:23]
it's currently the open space area for the homestead at Whitefish Phase One. and
[38:29]
so, it has their kind of entrance, um, gate and guard check and mailboxes and kind
[38:35]
of a, um, little, um, golf course. Um, and then, The proposed residential lot would
[38:43]
kind of break off the piece along Star Meadows Road. It'd be about 11 acres in size,
[38:48]
and the rest would remain open space. Um, and so, There was one agency comment. It
[38:56]
was from the Road and Bridge Department, and it kind of alludes to some previous
[39:01]
correspondence that uh Dave Parenti had had with the, with Eric Mulcahy um regarding
[39:06]
direct access for this lot onto Star Meadows Road. Um, it's not ideal, but they,
[39:12]
uh, agreed to it due to just the topography in this case, it sounds like it would
[39:16]
be difficult to get a driveway onto the internal subdivision road. So Dave was in
[39:21]
agreement with that, and you'll notice there's a condition. The planning board during
[39:27]
their public hearing, they amended condition number 19 and then added condition number
[39:34]
20, which says there shall not be any future resubdivision of Lot 1, so not just
[39:38]
prohibiting um additional driveways, but also just prohibiting additional subdivision
[39:43]
of the lot. Um, I think that's all I have at this point, unless you have any questions
[39:47]
for me.
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No, I, I think we can go into findings.
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Number one, impacts to the natural environment associated with streams, wetlands,
[40:04]
and floodplains are expected to be limited. A stream feature is identified on the
[40:09]
National Hydrography data set. And is addressed in the submitted Riparian Resource
[40:15]
Management Plan. However, the environmental assessment characterizes the feature
[40:19]
as a man-made water feature. The Riparian Resource Management Plan identifies the
[40:24]
feature as an intermittent creek associated with the existing pitch and putt course
[40:28]
and does not propose a vegetative buffer. The subject property does not contain wetlands
[40:33]
or a 100-year floodplain. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Number 2, no impacts from soils
[40:39]
and geological hazards are anticipated because the preliminary plan indicates the
[40:43]
proposed building site is located outside of areas with slopes greater than 25%,
[40:49]
and soil types on the subject property appear suitable for development. Agreed.
[40:58]
Number 3, the subdivision is expected to have minimal impact on vegetation, wildlife,
[41:02]
and wildlife habitat. Vegetation on the property consists primarily of coniferous
[41:07]
forest and landscaped open space. While species of concern have documented occurrences
[41:12]
in the surrounding area, the property does not contain identified critical plant
[41:17]
communities, key wildlife areas, or critical wildlife habitat. The proposed subdivision
[41:22]
would create a single residential lot within an existing 24 acre open space area
[41:27]
with the remaining open space continuing to provide wildlife habitat. The existing
[41:32]
water feature is man-made and does not provide riparian habitat. Existing CCNRs address
[41:38]
potential wildlife impacts associated with pets and wildlife attractants. No comments
[41:43]
were received from Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. Additionally, a weed control
[41:47]
plan will be required prior to final pot approval. Agreed. Agreed, and I have a question,
[41:52]
Erin. Um, uh, this has been mentioned twice in here so far. The, the man-made, um,
[41:59]
water. Effects or whatever it's called um. Can we actually use it if it's man-made?
[42:05]
Can we use it as something that could possibly restrict anything? Because if it's
[42:10]
man-made, it could also be removed.
[42:15]
Um, you mean can like a vegetative buffer be required, or yeah, well, right now we're,
[42:21]
we're considering this as, as a man-made feature, but before it was a man-made feature.
[42:29]
Was it So in other words, if man made it, man could take it away, would it then be
[42:36]
something that would not affect That we would not consider in this. If it, if
[42:44]
there was no stream present, um, yeah, it's like I said, it's showing up on both
[42:51]
the um
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The data set on the IMA as well as the uh National Wetlands Inventory you'll see
[43:00]
it's uh you know noted there um this is the first time I've seen us considered a
[43:05]
man-made feature. OK, yeah, it's a little unusual um. But I think it's just really
[43:12]
a matter of noting it is there, um, but yeah, based on the, the, um, The information
[43:18]
provided by the applicant's technical representative, it does not appear to be naturally
[43:24]
occurring, um, but they still did provide that riparity resource management management
[43:28]
plan. Great. Thank you. Number 4, there would be minimal impact on agriculture, timber
[43:35]
production, and agricultural water user facilities as a result of the proposed subdivision
[43:40]
because the subject property is not used for agriculture or timber production and
[43:44]
does not contain agricultural water user facilities, and the proposed subdivision
[43:48]
would not require access from the adjacent US Forest Service land. Agreed, agreed.
[43:55]
Number 5, the proposed subdivision is anticipated to have minimal impact on water
[43:59]
and wastewater services. Lot 1 would be served by a proposed individual well and
[44:03]
septic system, while the existing wells and septic system within open space A would
[44:09]
remain unchanged. The proposed water supply and wastewater. Disposal systems will
[44:13]
be reviewed and approved by the Montana Department of Environmental Quality and the
[44:17]
Flathead City County Health Department as applicable prior to final Platte approval.
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Agreed. Agreed. Number 6. Impacts related to stormwater drainage are anticipated
[44:27]
to be minimal because a conceptual stormwater management plan. Has been submitted
[44:31]
in accordance with Section 7.13 of the Flathead County Subdivision regulations. Lot
[44:37]
1 qualifies for a stormwater exemption, and detention swales are proposed within
[44:41]
open space A to manage stormwater runoff. The stormwater management plan will be
[44:46]
required to be reviewed and approved by the Montana Department of Environmental Quality
[44:50]
for compliance with applicable state standards prior to final Plat approval. Agreed.
[44:56]
Agreed. Number 7, impacts on solid waste disposal would be acceptable with standard
[45:01]
conditions because the subdivision would utilize contract haul services for solid
[45:04]
waste disposal. Agreed. Number 8. Impacts to air quality and noise are anticipated
[45:10]
to be minimal because the construction-related noise and vibration will be temporary.
[45:15]
The proposed residential use is not anticipated to result in noise levels or activity
[45:19]
substantially different from those typical of a residential area. Primary access
[45:24]
roads are paved, and a dust control plan will be required to mitigate potential dust
[45:28]
impacts during construction and development activity. Agreedy.
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Number 9, the proposed subdivision would have minimal impacts on area roads. Lot
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1 would be accessed from an existing approach onto Star Meadows Road due to site
[45:43]
topography. The addition of 11 residential lot is expected to generate approximately
[45:49]
9.43 average daily trips. The Flathead County Road and Bridge Department requested
[45:54]
that further subdivision of Lot 1 be prohibited, and the condition of approval will
[45:59]
prohibit additional access onto Star Meadows Road. An approach permit from the Flathead
[46:04]
County Road and Bridge Department will be required prior to final Platte approval.
[46:08]
No pedestrian or bicycle easement is required. Agreed. Agreed. Number 10. The property
[46:14]
is located within the Star Meadows Rural Fire District and the Wildland Urban Interface.
[46:20]
The subdivision will be required to comply with applicable county addressing and
[46:24]
emergency response requirements. A wildland fire fuels reduction in maintenance plan.
[46:29]
Has been provided and includes ongoing fuel reduction and maintenance measures. Written
[46:35]
verification from the local fire protection authority that the approved plan has
[46:39]
been completed will be required prior to final Plat approval. Agreed. Agreed. Number
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11, the subdivision will be served by the Flathead County Sheriff's Office, which
[46:49]
did not provide comment, and emergency response times will vary depending on deputy
[46:54]
availability. Emergency medical services are expected to be provided by the Star
[46:59]
Meadows Rural Fire District and the alert service through Logan Health Medical Center.
[47:03]
Agreed. Agreed. Number 12. Impacts on local services, including schools, mail delivery,
[47:10]
and recreation are expected to be minimal. The proposed subdivision is anticipated
[47:15]
to generate approximately 1 additional student for the local school districts. No
[47:20]
parkland dedication is required and written approval from the local postmaster will
[47:24]
be required prior to final plot approval. Agreed, green. Number 13. Impacts to public
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health and safety from high voltage electric lines, high pressure gas lines, Superfund
[47:36]
sites, abandoned landfills, mines, or sewer treatment plants are not anticipated
[47:41]
because those features do not exist on the property and the proposed subdivision
[47:45]
is not located within an airport influenced area. Number 14. The proposed subdivision
[47:51]
would not adversely impact historical features because no known historical, archaeological,
[47:57]
or cultural sites exist on the subject property. Agreed. Agreed. Number 15. The preliminary
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platte would conform to all provisions of the Montana Subdivision and Platting Act
[48:06]
if it contains all elements required to meet state survey requirements, which would
[48:11]
be determined when it is reviewed by the Flathead County Examining Land Surveyor
[48:15]
prior to final Platte approval. Agreed. Number 16. The proposed subdivision has been
[48:21]
reviewed as a major subdivision in accordance with statutory criteria and standards
[48:25]
outlined in Chapter 5 of the Flathead County Subdivision Regulations, effective October
[48:30]
9, 2025. Agreed. Number 17. The preliminary plot identifies adequate easements for
[48:37]
utilities to serve the subdivision. All other easements associated with this subdivision
[48:43]
and the subdivided property shall be located on the final plot to satisfy applicable
[48:48]
requirements of the Montana Subdivision and Platting Act and the Flathead County
[48:52]
subdivision regulations. Agreed. Agreed. Number 18. Legal and physical access to
[48:58]
the proposed lot would be provided by an individual driveway approach onto Star Meadows
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Road, a paved county collector road within a 60-foot wide right of way. Agreed. Number
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19. The proposed subdivision is not located within a neighborhood plan area and the
[49:13]
property is not zoned. The project is generally consistent with the Flathead County
[49:18]
growth policy as subdivision review regulations implement the policy's goals and
[49:22]
standards. Agreed. Agreed. Number 20. Pursuant to section 2.12 FCSR, preliminary
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plot approvals remain valid for 3 years, necessitating specific procedural deadlines
[49:35]
for final plot submittals, 45 working days before expiration, and extension requests,
[49:41]
30 working days before expiration to ensure orderly administrative review and timely
[49:46]
project completion. Agreed, agreed. Number 21. Before final Platt approval, the applicant
[49:52]
must demonstrate substantial compliance with the approved preliminary Platt and either
[49:57]
complete all required improvements or enter into a subdivision improvement agreement
[50:01]
with an appropriate financial guarantee. Agreed, agreed.
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Mr. Chair, I move the findings as read. 2, I have a motion as second. Is there further
[50:12]
discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye, both same sign. Motion carry.
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Mr. Chair, move preliminary platform, said bluff. Second, I have a motion and second
[50:24]
is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, both same sign.
[50:30]
Motion carries.
[50:35]
Oh, our next item up is consideration of lakeshore permit, FLP-26-88 for Alisa Brewster,
[50:43]
flathead activity, boat lift.
[50:48]
Good morning, Kevin Shermer of Flathead County.
[50:52]
Looking at my, yes, that's, I don't, oh, you were, oh, OK, sorry.
[51:00]
It's OK. Uh, Kevin Ser, Flathead County Planning and Zoning. Good morning. This is
[51:07]
for the FLP 2688.
[51:14]
Which is
[51:21]
Put it the wrong
[51:28]
Yes, um, the owner being, uh, Mission View Terrace, HOA, and the applicant being.
[51:36]
Brewster, the applicant is requesting to install an 11 ft by 9 ft
[51:43]
freestanding boat lift in boat slip 103 in an existing dock in the
[51:51]
private marina owned by Mission View Terrace HOA. The property is an existing marina.
[51:59]
This project does not increase the impervious cover. No mechanical machinery will
[52:06]
be used to install the boat lift. All debris will be removed from the site and no
[52:12]
construction materials will be stockpiled or stored within the lake or lake shore
[52:16]
protection zone. All work will be done within the LPZ and no equipment will be in
[52:22]
contact with the lake. Um, Kevin, you rec we received some, um, public comment.
[52:30]
What came in late last night in our emails, but that was forwarded to you this morning.
[52:34]
Yes. Have you had a chance to look at that briefly? Yes, I did briefly. So on this
[52:39]
particular one. It talks about Some
[52:47]
Clerical errors in which boat slip it is. Can you address that?
[52:58]
Says that the draft permitted certificate states that lift is installed in boat slip
[53:02]
103. However, the applicant said slip 21. And photographed and handwritten notes
[53:10]
referenced Dock 21 near Lake Shore Drive. So there's some Correct, it should be docked
[53:17]
slip 21. I'm sorry, it should be in slip 21. OK, so can you explain why there's
[53:26]
Why the discrepancy? No, right, there's these errors.
[53:32]
No, no, OK.
[53:36]
There was also
[53:39]
A talk about also an error. It said the permit applicant requested 11 by 11 ft. But
[53:45]
the permit is 11 by 9 ft. Can you address that?
[53:57]
I know we got these late and I, and it's, it's unfortunate because I don't know that,
[54:02]
I don't see that, I see you haven't had really time to look at this. I haven't had
[54:06]
time to address that.
[54:16]
I have not had time to review that specific. I have to review that, OK. There's also,
[54:21]
well, you can go down the rest of it. They're talking about the authorization form
[54:25]
and having the OK of the HOA board, and you got it all, yeah, and on the HOA board
[54:31]
for that. So they were, they signed on the applicant. On the application itself giving
[54:36]
you authorization, so the HOA did that's covered, that's covered, OK. So
[54:46]
I think it's imperative we get our paperwork correct, correct, and it is for, um,
[54:52]
it's we're not changing the dimensions of the marina. It's gonna be, uh, inside the
[54:56]
specific slips that are already evidence historically established, right? Yeah, it
[55:02]
doesn't change anything because it's just a boat lift. There's no impervious coverage,
[55:06]
and there's none of that going on, um, it wouldn't impact setbacks or any of that.
[55:12]
So, so what is the Controlling Um narrative. Is
[55:19]
it the permit that you write or what the applicant
[55:26]
Brings in what controls the narrative and are we Um I, I don't know
[55:34]
I'm just trying to figure out if, cause a lot of times we get impervi coverage, it's
[55:38]
not, and that's gonna come up in these other ones. This may be a little different
[55:42]
than what the applicant said, but then you guys do your research. Right, correct.
[55:49]
And then you come up with maybe a different number. Is that the controlling number
[55:53]
of the permit for the for uh impervious coverage we do that uh with our own measurements
[56:00]
and we put it into an Excel spreadsheet to allow it to calculate much more accurately
[56:04]
than um some of the dimensioning that we receive. Sure. So even though the applicant
[56:10]
may provide you with Something that's not exactly accurate or something that you
[56:16]
think is accurate.
[56:20]
The prevailing
[56:24]
Measurement is what you put in there. Tara, thank you for coming. Could you kinda
[56:30]
address that for me, please? Sorry, I just happened to be here. Um, so neither one
[56:38]
controls until the permit is finalized and signed, so. Let's just talk about
[56:45]
the 9 by 11 or 11 by 11 issue, um. That
[56:53]
I don't know if that is actually something that's double checked by planning staff
[56:57]
or not, but If the applicant Submitted
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A request for 11 by 11. And then it was just simply a typo
[57:14]
that um planning transcribed it as 9 by 11.
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That's, that's, it should be considered for 11 by 11 if planning office
[57:28]
decides that. No, they can't have 11 by 11. We can only give them 9 by 11. Then
[57:36]
there needs to be some explanation for that. In writing, yeah, whether it's a staff
[57:43]
report or whatever, but if the applicant asks for Well, it's not there, but if you
[57:50]
say the applicant asked for 11 by 9 and, and had a permit for 11 by 11, that's not
[57:54]
a problem. It's going small, got going asking for bigger. It doesn't have to. It's
[57:59]
gotta be within that size, right? Uh, or is that correct? However, you know,
[58:07]
11/11 could be the standard size, the, the, uh. Planning office
[58:15]
permits or it just could be the biggest size. The problem is gonna be later
[58:23]
because that permit follows the property, right? So if we permit 11 by 11,
[58:31]
they only need 11 by 9 now, and the regs change. To only allow 11 by 9.
[58:41]
they're out of compliance. There could just be, yeah, there could just be a discrepancy
[58:46]
in the future. There's a potential discrepancy. Maybe we should table this until
[58:51]
they figure that out. Is that? If we can't, if we can't figure out and come up with
[58:57]
an adequate explanation for the difference for the record, then we should. OK. Do
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you have any explanation for the 11 by 11 or 11 by 9, a simple clerical transaction,
[59:07]
not at this time, OK. All right.
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I'm gonna move to table. Uh, consideration lake shore permit FLP 26-88 Lisa
[59:21]
Brewster flathead activity boat lift. I have a motion in a second is for further
[59:27]
discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye oppose same sign motion carries.
[59:35]
Um Our next item up is consideration of Lakeshore permit
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FLP-26-80 JM Real Estate Holdings Flathead Activity. Install canopy and
[59:49]
baffle board white wall.
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This is for Lake Lake Shore Construction Permit FLP 2680. For JM
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Reals State Holdings LLC, the applicant proposes to construct a 28 ft by 16 ft
[1:00:08]
canopy over the dock slip and an 18 ft of baffle board wave wall around the southeast
[1:00:16]
wing of the existing permitted dock, FLP 2589. The additional 448 square
[1:00:24]
feet. of impervious coverage over the water increases the overall impervious coverage.
[1:00:31]
Over the water to 928 square feet, which is well within the allowed
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2800. 24 square feet for this property. All debris will be removed from and no construction
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materials will be stockpiled or stored within the lake shore protection zone. All
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work will be done within the LPZ and no equipment will come in contact with the water.
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Mr. Chair, I have questions on this. Yeah, go ahead. Again, we've received public
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comment where it talks about a discrepancy between what was applied for
[1:01:07]
and what planning and zoning determined was the actual footage, who takes precedent
[1:01:14]
there, and will the permit. Randy, can you get closer to your mic? I'm sorry. Thank
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you. Could you talk about that a little bit? It's only a 9 ft discrepancy, but it
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gets back to what Tara was talking about with if we don't get it right to begin with,
[1:01:29]
then it could cause problems down the road. We'll take their drawings and plug each
[1:01:35]
of the dimensions specifically into some Excel's spreadsheet, which then calculates
[1:01:41]
the total for us. It's more accurate than. By the hand estimations. OK. And then
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there's another comment that we received that talks about a narrative describing
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environmental impacts as minor disruption of wildlife habitat, but temporary will
[1:01:57]
increase wildlife habitat once complete. What do we have for documentation that actually
[1:02:02]
shows that? Is that just the planner's choice in language, or do we have something
[1:02:08]
from FWP or somebody? Uh, US Fish Wildlife, somebody that says that I had done research
[1:02:15]
on the baffle boards and placements and how that impacts whether it's a positive
[1:02:19]
or negative impact on the environment and what I've found through the through that
[1:02:24]
research, uh, and, and where, what did you use for your research, uh, the various
[1:02:30]
through FWP as well as other, uh, wildlife, uh, OK, lake shore, uh, websites,
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OK. OK, and then is there a requirement when we put baffle boards in, is there a
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requirement for um Some type of uh Um, engineering confirmation that says that
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this is actually the 3 ft difference. No, no, it's just it's the same as if they
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installed a different length of their dock that we would, our, uh, staff would go
[1:03:02]
out to measure it to make sure. So we'll, we'll make a confirmation before we, uh,
[1:03:07]
before we release it is, is complete, correct? OK, thank you. Did you cover the 2nd
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to permit 18 linear feet of breakwater baffle boards? I don't think we covered that,
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no.
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about that and condition number 12 of the draft permit. Um, it talks about the applicant
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file contains no site evaluation profiles or water depth measurements. Is that that
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would be after the fact when we measure to see, make sure that they are clear of
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it. It does not increase the impervious coverage, OK.
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So Mr. Chair, I would move in, and thank you for providing that additional information.
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So Mr. Chair, I would move Lake Shore Permit FOP 2680 JM Real Estate Holdings, flathead
[1:03:59]
Activity install canopy and baffle board wave wall. I have a motion to second for
[1:04:05]
further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor, Mr. Chair, let me back up a
[1:04:13]
little bit. We haven't done findings yet, and so I'd withdraw my motion. OK. Who
[1:04:18]
withdraw it until I'll withdraw my second withdraw that. I'm going to the findings
[1:04:23]
on the finding of fact, the design standards established by Flathead County Lake
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and Lakeshore Protection regulations were developed to satisfy all applicable statutory
[1:04:31]
and policy criteria for the permit issuance. Based on the substantive administrative
[1:04:38]
review, the project adheres to the standards set forth in Sections 4.3A2A governing
[1:04:44]
docks, wharfs, and piers. And 4.3CA governing shelters, uh, lifting, uh, floating
[1:04:52]
lifts and shore stations and is therefore in full compliance with Section 4.1 policy
[1:04:58]
criteria. Agreed, agreed. Mr. Chair, I, I move the finding as read.
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Second. I have a motion in a second. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none,
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all those in favor? Aye. Aye. Both signed. Motion carries. So Mr. Chair, now back
[1:05:16]
to, uh, Lake Shore permit for FLP 2680. Um, I move Lake Shore permit FLP 2680 JM
[1:05:24]
Real Estate Holdings, flathead Activity install canopy and baffle board wave wall.
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Mr. Chair. Second, I have a motion a second is there further discussion. Hearing
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none, all those in favor. Aye, aye oppose same sign motion carries. Our next item
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is consideration of lake shore permit FLP-26-45 for a Philip Hambly beaver
[1:05:48]
activity. Replace a floating dock.
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This is for Lake and Lake Shore construction permit FLP 2645,
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owner being Montana DNRC. The applicants propose to replace an existing nonconforming
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24 ft by 16 ft floating dock with a 14 ft gangway within the lake and lake shore
[1:06:17]
protection zone of Beaver Lake. There is currently an existing dock 140
[1:06:25]
ft by 4 ft gangway.
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18 ft by 10 ft shed.
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18 ft by 10 ft patio within the LPZ. The proposed floating
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dock shall be constructed by composite decking and aluminum framing measuring 24
[1:06:48]
ft by 16 ft. And Will be anchored with concrete anchors and galvanized chain floats
[1:06:56]
of our polyvinyl filled with foam. The dock configuration per submitted drawing.
[1:07:05]
Safety cleats will be installed on the decking surface. The proposed replacement
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dock will result in 384 ft of
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over the water pervious surface based on the 206 linear feet of shoreline of linear
[1:07:25]
feet of lake shore frontage. The maximum allow of over the water cover is
[1:07:31]
1,641 square feet. Pursuant to FCLR
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4.2E2A, the proposed impervious coverage of 206 ft of
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square feet is within the allowable limits. The DNRC, as landowner, authorizes submission
[1:07:52]
of this application by email. The dock will be installed by floating it into place
[1:07:57]
and secured. To existing concrete anchors and galvanized chain.
[1:08:05]
No pile driving or mechanical excavation of the lake bed is proposed. No materials
[1:08:10]
or debris will be stored or stockpiled within the LPZ. All construction waste will
[1:08:14]
be disposed of offsite. No existing vegetation will be removed within the LPZ in
[1:08:20]
connection with this project. So again, we received some public comment on this one.
[1:08:27]
did you have an opportunity to go through that? Briefly
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They're removing the existing dock, so. That wasn't as pertinent as the dock that
[1:08:44]
they're proposing to install, right?
[1:08:48]
So Mr. Chair, I do have a question on that. This is an existing nonconforming because
[1:08:54]
it was built in 2016. It was nonconforming then. They didn't get a permit. Is that
[1:09:00]
correct? That is correct, and that's the only verbiage that we have language that
[1:09:04]
is currently at the time that we could use for that. And so if we didn't get a permit
[1:09:10]
at the time of If they didn't get a permit at the time of construction, does that
[1:09:15]
qualify them as nonconforming just because we didn't catch it? It was considered
[1:09:22]
nonconforming as a result. If we look under MCA 757218 from Bill
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168, it talks to those being a
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Um, structure name. Sorry.
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Not as A nonconforming, legally nonconforming, but as a prescriptive structure because
[1:09:51]
it's been in existence for more than 3 years. So there is a, there is a limitation,
[1:09:57]
the statute of limitations, basically 3 years if you, you don't get caught, um. Then
[1:10:04]
then now it becomes nonconforming, is that the definition? OK. And then they're removing
[1:10:10]
this. Is the new structure being built? Is it conforming then the new structure will
[1:10:16]
be conforming, so fully conforming. They're getting rid of the nonconforming, correct?
[1:10:20]
OK, thank you. There was a question on The brewery's coverage again, could you cover
[1:10:27]
that?
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We took their dimensions and for the existing dock, put it into an Excel spreadsheet
[1:10:41]
and the calculations that we came out with. So, it says in your third paragraph,
[1:10:45]
the dock will result in 384 square feet of overwater and perverse surface based on
[1:10:51]
the 200 ft of linear frontage. But then below that you say the proposed and perverse
[1:10:58]
coverage of 206 square feet. Is that a typographical error? That's a typographical
[1:11:03]
error, so that should be 384, 384 and still well within the 1,641. So that's
[1:11:10]
OK. So that takes care of that.
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Randy touched on the width of the dock.
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Um
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there was some Consistencies in the fee receipts. Can you address that?
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In the fees Says minor fee inconsistencies. Fee receipts show the county charged
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FLP 2545 after the fact, $628 on April 23, 2026.
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Misidentifying the permit year while the current file is processed as FLP 2545 or
[1:12:07]
26-45. So there's two.
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2 different numbers on the fee. From what I see that the receipt total being the
[1:12:19]
200 or 62831. Minus 1830 for
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a total for the 1610 on the receipt.
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And if that is, I, that's the furthest I have on that. So they had to get a after
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the fact permit in April of 26. On that oversized dock and then
[1:12:47]
they removed it and put in a dock that was conforming, correct? Is that correct?
[1:12:54]
They received an after the fact from the existing it being an existing dock that
[1:12:59]
was not permitted. Yes, so they had to get that all lined up and done right before
[1:13:05]
they get the permit to put the new dock and that was conforming, I believe so. Yeah,
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that's what it seems like to me. So Mr. Chair, question on the few receipts, and
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I know we're getting in the weeds on this, but I think it's important that we get
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very accurate information. It's FLP 25-45, which you would identify it as something
[1:13:26]
that had been issued in. 2025, is that correct?
[1:13:33]
It would have been started, yeah, initially initiated in 25. It may have for whatever
[1:13:40]
reason carried over into 26. This is so then so it was actually even though it was
[1:13:48]
FLP 2545, it was actually not issued until 26, is that correct? The updated Application
[1:13:55]
for the permit that we have for this one was received on April 22nd of 26. OK,
[1:14:03]
so, so. I'm trying to figure out what the note from Citizens for Better Flathead
[1:14:11]
who had the public comment. It starts out as FLP 25-45, but we didn't actually get
[1:14:18]
receipt of it until April 23, 2026. Is that how that worked?
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I think if you look at if I look at the folder, it was typed out as a FLP 25 and
[1:14:32]
hand. Penned over to 26, which could have been a clerical error when they typed it
[1:14:37]
initially. So it's actually, it's actually in 26, correct, 2645. All right, so the
[1:14:44]
clerical error there.
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OK. OK.
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I don't have anything else I guess. I do have a question, Mr. Chair. Does this mean
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that we need to To correct through emotion, um, the, the
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error that we identified a little earlier, um, the 26 or 25, no, not that the, uh,
[1:15:10]
the other one, Sorry, I'm square footage going back to, yeah, the square footage
[1:15:17]
from The 206 identifies in the permit to 384. Do we need to change that by motion,
[1:15:26]
we discussed it. Do we need to make a formal motion if it's 206 is on the actual
[1:15:33]
draft permit, then yes, you need to make a motion. See what I see says here the proposed
[1:15:39]
replacement dock will result in 384 square feet of over the water. Impervious surface
[1:15:44]
based on 206. Linear feet of lake shore frontage. So that's the difference between
[1:15:52]
one's impervious coverage and one's linear feet. Or is one of those wrong? No, it's
[1:15:57]
the next sentence. The proposed impervious coverage of, oh, that's the 206 ft is
[1:16:02]
put in there as a mistake instead of 384. They took linear feet instead of square
[1:16:06]
feet. I see that. This is the permit, so we probably should make a motion on that.
[1:16:11]
Yes, Mr. Chair, I move to change what we have as the proposed impervious coverage
[1:16:17]
of 2,0006 square feet, 206, 206 within the allowable limits, change to 206 to 384
[1:16:24]
square feet, Mr. Chair. Second, I have a motion in a second. Is there further discussion?
[1:16:30]
Hearing none. All those in favor. Aye aye. Post same sign motion carries.
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And Findings. Yeah, we'll go into our findings. I have one more thing. Excuse me.
[1:16:46]
On the very first sentence, the applicant proposes to replace an existing nonconforming
[1:16:52]
24 ft by 16 ft floating dock with a 14 ft gangway. Is that accurate?
[1:17:00]
Yes, it looks like on the 140 ft gang by 4 ft should be a 14 ft. By 4 ft
[1:17:08]
gangway, it's an extra it's type O. OK, so, so that should be changed. OK,
[1:17:15]
so I move. To change that language on the project description for Lake Shore
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Permit FLP 26-45 to 14.4 ft gangway. Second
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Is that right, or is it 140.4? It's 1414. OK, poor gangway.
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The 14 ft by 4 ft gangway.
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I have a motion in a second. Is there a further discussion? Just a question. So if
[1:17:50]
that's not accurate, are the other numbers in there accurate? Yes, it was in the
[1:17:55]
first line that ends with the floating dock with a 14-foot gangway, and then later
[1:18:00]
in the same, the next sentence describes it as a 140 ft versus just added a 0 to
[1:18:05]
the 14, correct. OK. So, the rest on the shed and the patio and all in the LPZ are
[1:18:12]
correct? Correct. OK. Thank you.
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I have a motion. Did I get my motion right? OK. I have a motion a second.
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Is there further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor. Aye, aye, oppose same
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sign, motion carries. Now we can go into findings of fact. Findings of fact. The
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design standards established by Flathead County Lake and Lake Shore Protection regulations
[1:18:40]
were developed to satisfy all applicable statutory and policy criteria for the permit
[1:18:46]
issuance based upon a substantive. Administrative review. The project adheres to
[1:18:52]
the standards set forth in Sections 2.7B governing nonconforming. 4.2A2 governing
[1:18:59]
docks, wharves, piers, and is therefore in full compliance with Section 4.1 policy
[1:19:05]
criteria. Agreed, Mr. Chair, I move the findings as read. 2nd, I have a motion is
[1:19:11]
2nd. Is there? Further discussion. Hearing that all those in favor, I opposed and
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signed motion carries. Mr. Chair, I move Lake Shore. Permit for
[1:19:26]
FLP 2645 Philip Hamley beaver activity. Replace a floating dock. I have a
[1:19:34]
motion in a second is there further discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor.
[1:19:39]
I oppose same sign motion carries.
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We can go on to
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Consideration of lake shore permit, FLP-26-78, Blaine and Robin Evanson on Lake
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Blaine activity for retainable. This is for FLP 2676 Blaine and
[1:20:03]
Robin Evanson. The applicant proposes repairing an existing nonconforming dry stack
[1:20:09]
natural stone shoreline retaining wall. The repair consists of reset seating and
[1:20:14]
securing the rotated base core stones back to their original positions within the
[1:20:21]
existing wall footprint. A displaced toe armoring will be restored. Using natural
[1:20:28]
angular rip wrap sourced from an upland location outside of the lake shore protection
[1:20:33]
zone, all rock will be clean and free of silts, sands, and fines. The rip wrap will
[1:20:40]
be replaced, placed over repaired or replaced filter fabric at a minimum slope of
[1:20:47]
one horizontal to 2 vertical. Minor concrete work will be performed only where necessary
[1:20:54]
to stabilize all existing. Existing wall stones in locations where rock alone cannot
[1:21:01]
provide adequate support. All work will occur entirely within the existing nonconforming
[1:21:08]
wall footprint at or landward of the mean annual high water elevation following the
[1:21:15]
established shoreline contour with no lakeward extension of the land area. The repair
[1:21:21]
length is approximately 15 linear feet and will require an estimated
[1:21:29]
6 cubic yards of angular rip wrap. Work will be completed using hand tools
[1:21:37]
and small equipment operating exclusively from upland areas. No equipment will enter
[1:21:42]
the lake or disturb the lake bed. All repairs will be conducted during seasonal low
[1:21:47]
water when the work area is dry. This project is not proposing to add or remove impervious
[1:21:54]
surface area on the property and will remain entirely within the existing retaining
[1:21:59]
walls footprint consistent with Section 2.76 Flathead County Lake and Lake Shore
[1:22:04]
Protection regulations, which Allows maintenance, repair and replacement of existing
[1:22:12]
nonconforming structures provided the work does not expand or alter the established
[1:22:17]
footprint. All debris will be removed from and no construction materials will be
[1:22:21]
stockpiled or stored within the lake shore protection zone. All work will be done
[1:22:26]
within the LPZ and no equipment will contact the lake.
[1:22:31]
Mr. Chair, I have some questions. Um, do you know what year this was originally built?
[1:22:37]
The nonconforming, was it within the 3 years or before the 3 years? It was before,
[1:22:43]
according to the aerial photography. OK. So it would by law it would actually be
[1:22:50]
existing nonconforming. We had a question about that in public comment that confirming.
[1:22:57]
The Their their statement was that you can't. You can't call it nonconforming if
[1:23:05]
it was built. After the standards were put in place, but that's not true if it's
[1:23:11]
built within or before 3 years ago. It'll be a prescriptive structure. All right,
[1:23:18]
Tara, does that make sense? Does that sound right? That is correct. OK.
[1:23:24]
And then on the project it says it's not proposing to add or remove impervious surface
[1:23:31]
area on the property. Is that correct, that none of this is going to impact impervious
[1:23:38]
surface? Correct. They're taking existing stones and shoring them up. They're not
[1:23:42]
adding to it or removing from it. Thank you.
[1:23:48]
So Kevin on the uh said that Um You had sent a letter and put this
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on compliance hold. Can you address that? When we received the says this application
[1:24:02]
prevents severe severe procedural regulatory complex. Office planning department
[1:24:08]
records in the file reveal that on August 11, 2026, planner Kevin Sturmer placed
[1:24:14]
this exact application on a formal compliance hold due to multiple uncorrected lake
[1:24:21]
shore violations on the property, and then they list four of them. Are you familiar
[1:24:26]
with those? And were those addressed?
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I'm not familiar with those.
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OK, so we don't know if those were Or if, uh, uh, you know, who knows, I don't know.
[1:24:47]
Are they even pertinent to this file? Uh, we're not, yeah. I don't think it's pertinent
[1:24:53]
to this specific application to stop the wall from falling over.
[1:25:02]
OK.
[1:25:06]
Um
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They also talk about uh the applicant is Scott Evenson. He's not the property owner.
[1:25:19]
Listed owners are Blaine and Robin Evenson. Can you address that?
[1:25:40]
The applicant is is the one who's gonna be doing the work. I do not know the relation
[1:25:47]
between them, but the, the application was signed off by uh Blaine Evanson. OK, so
[1:25:55]
Scott's in the paperwork, but Blaine signed it, correct. OK.
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OK.
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So I don't know. About the compliance hold.
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Um If we have outstanding violations. Would that affect this permit that we're
[1:26:25]
doing today? I believe that the I believe I cannot attest that they are,
[1:26:32]
are, but I believe that they were in compliance, or the file would have stayed over
[1:26:38]
in the compliance area. And not have been brought back to my desk for completion.
[1:26:44]
So you're not sure, but it wouldn't have come forward unless someone checked on those,
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correct?
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But we don't know What, what do you think, Tara? I don't. If there's nothing in the
[1:26:58]
file to explain. Why it came off a compliance hold or if it even did.
[1:27:07]
Then it needs to be tabled until we can find out those answers, OK. So we need to
[1:27:13]
look into that probably. So Mr. Chair, I'd move to Table Lakeshore permit FLP 2678
[1:27:19]
Blaine and Robin Evanson. Um, blame activity retaining wall. Second,
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I have a motion to seconded to further discussion. I, I do have a question, Kevin.
[1:27:32]
How long ago did, uh, did this packet get finished being put together?
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Did, uh, in other words, how long ago was it? Was it complete and ready to come over
[1:27:44]
to our office.
[1:27:52]
I believe it was on the
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9:14.
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So the 14th, when did it get, when was it on your website then? I, I don't know.
[1:28:06]
I don't put the, that's not the section that I handle, OK. OK. And then, Ruby, how,
[1:28:12]
how does that work? Um, they get it done on September 14th. Today is the 8th. Um,
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how long till it becomes public information? Um, we have to have it up. Hold on,
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Ruby, grab your ass here.
[1:28:32]
We have to have it up 48 hours in advance, but it goes on much sooner than that.
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It gets listed and the files get put up there with it, so it really depends on how
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much time it gives, but at least a week, but usually much longer. Randy, what are
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you specifically looking for? What I'm looking for is several of these permits that
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come across. The public comment has listed concerns that they didn't have the information
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available in time to get to do the research on it because we got their letters this
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morning, which doesn't give us time to research whether they're correct or not. Um,
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I'm We're gonna see if we can find when it was submitted to. The commissioner's office
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And would that have been the first time that it was posted to the public? I don't
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know. That would be a question probably for April. OK.
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Um, I know all of that was posted last week when I sent it to you guys. OK.
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Last name And So the files themselves are in the office and available to the public
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at any time, and your files, normally, how long do you have that file complete before
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it gets to the commissioners?
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Usually, usually I'll get it complete and hand it over to the front office for them
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to process it and get it over to you and that usually happens within a day or two.
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But it's days in advance that your office actually has the paperwork in the office
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ready for anyone to look at. Days before it ever gets to our agenda, it's usually
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a week before we have usually a week, a week before there will be people who come
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in to look at specific files, but the files are there and even before they're completed,
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um, I've had people come in to look at their specific files to make sure their information
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and our agenda is usually posted weeks ahead of time. Um, usually a week, week and
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a half, week and a half, so about a week in there that all of this happens. It may
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not necessarily put all the documents into AV capture, but they are available over
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at the planning office. Is that correct? Correct. OK. And just to confirm, and this
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may be for Tara, uh, putting it on Navy capture is not required by law. Is that correct?
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Correct. And it's actually not required the um. That you post that
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stuff anywhere, it's becoming more and more generally accepted. Um And I know there
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are a few times things may come over to the commissioner's office, and we don't necessarily
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want
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You know, want the person who submitted it to the commissioner's office to post it
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somewhere online. Um, but with Things from the planning and zoning office like these,
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I think it's fairly certain cause there's You know, even if Planning says,
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oh, the applicant contacted me or we've got to change something. Or whatever, then
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I mean, it's still a public document, right, right. So at the planning office. It
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looks like this came over to the commissioner's office probably around the 23rd of
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September. Yeah, OK, so, so we did what was required by law, by, um, by having it
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available, planning and zoning it so that if people saw it posted. Even if we didn't
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have the document on AV capture, it was posted so that anybody that wanted to look
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at it could go to planning and zoning and look at the document. Is that correct?
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Yes, but I will tell you that um administrative staff over planning and zoning is
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being overwhelmed by records requests, and they're getting fulfilled, but last
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I talked to April, they're not guaranteeing anything in under 2 weeks. But people
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certainly can stay there in the office and look through the, you know, actually original
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copy of the file themselves, um, but they're not guaranteed a copy. So we do, so
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just because we get a, a document saying that you didn't provide what was legally
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required, um, isn't necessarily true, correct? OK, thank you.
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OK. OK. And we have tabled that, right? We voted on that. I think we voted. Did you
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vote? Let's just check before.
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You don't have a vote yet. Oh, we don't have a vote. OK. Is there further discussion?
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Hearing none, all those in favor, aye, aye oppose saying sign motion carries it's
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tabled, and we are adjourned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I didn't think we'd
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think. I am never coming over here.