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Aye, aye, for you. Just a date.
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Say six. April six. You ready? I'm ready. April six. We're having a meeting about concrete the pickleball court. Come on. You're right here. This will warm that for you.
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One of them from the regional contractor doing the other side of the pickleball court. They want the same square footage cost. As they're doing the concrete for now.
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Now, can we just make it clarify what we're here for?
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The question that we're here to discuss by the emergency meeting is whether it's prudent
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to spend the money, to remove and replace the balance of the concrete under the
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while it's already partially torn up.
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In lieu of, let me finish, I'm just thinking here,
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in lieu of an ADA ramp to take the old concrete
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in compliance with the new concrete,
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which I'll be able to look at.
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And in lieu of the suggestion by Jones and the mill
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to put a drain in for one area that's puddling,
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that won't bring the rest of the defective concrete by my opinion.
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Like, as I have looked at that, I walked it and walked it and I thought,
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we don't have too many choices.
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Right, I also walked it and that concrete is in sad repair.
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I mean, it's in sad shape.
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I wish the Old City Council would have acted on Rod's suggestion then.
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I know it was three times.
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You were here for my explanation.
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They said the way it wasn't a good scope because I think the Old City Council wanted
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to be frugal and mine their pennies and only to look we had money in a graph for it.
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is the way I remember, because it was discussed,
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you guys brought it up.
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That's somewhat true.
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This project was pushed, I believe,
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by a couple of citizens in there,
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we're really adamant about doing it.
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They got the Lambda committee to donate $30,000,
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I believe, the city committed to around $40,000 for it.
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And if it's supposed to be half of that building with new concrete all the time, it started
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out of the little cap on all of it.
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And that was not going to work in that would have been a mistake.
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So then they brought it back and so we're going to do half of it and we're going to do some
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sand volleyball pits and we're going to do some playground equipment.
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Jones and Demail liked many of the projects they worked on for us came in and gave us
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a budget number that was well below what reality was and so when we got the actual bids
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for it you couldn't afford to do it all and so we made the decision to go forward and not
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And I don't know what the status of the playground equipment is in there, but I think that it's
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going to be as wide as well.
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It was sent to myself in there.
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And so the Pickleball court in there, when they walked away from the cap on everything,
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it was always just going to be that one half in there.
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And so we start bringing it up.
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I mean, we actually got some bids from, I don't know if we got really formal bids, but
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we got cost estimates from Jones and Demille for whatever good that is, of what it would
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cost just to put regular concrete, not pre-stressed in the other side, not tension-wire stress concrete
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in the other side and I thought that we had a way to fund that and it's brought up several
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times in the mayor the last time I brought her up he says I think we have a path forward to do
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that and that's where it got left. Well and I think what we've got here today isn't your proposal
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Jake that not only do we do concrete but we bring in road base to fix the elevations so that we have
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to bring it up a survey is to bring it to where it needs to be and take care of it all at once.
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We're eliminating the ADA stuff.
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So do we bring it up and only do a form slide, but it would meet the same elevation?
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So no more 88 ramp? No more? So they want to need one?
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They want the same ramp square foot prices. They're potential higher concrete?
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Thank you.
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There is no way.
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Let the record show.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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So what are your vids that you've got?
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They're just for the concrete work.
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59.
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There's is.
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Uh, who is theirs?
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The general or the contract that is doing it now.
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The.
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The.
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He's already.
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10th quarter.
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10th quarter.
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10th quarter.
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And he's 59 yeah, you're 1350 a square foot times 4400 no
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So 59,000 yes, and then you're another three all are in 50 cents to tear it out
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So that does not include removal 350 a foot to remove it wrong. It doesn't include the road base either does it now
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I'll they said that they they said that they would do it for the same square footage
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And so what's the other bit we've got skyline pole building Jeremy and 56 to remove an important ringer on base in all?
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56,000. Tell me his business name again. How many yards of concrete are you? Jeremy?
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Skyline is 4,400 square feet. So that's 555 yards, right? But skylines the whole job.
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He told both contractors, they had a spot where they could dump concrete up the pit.
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Give me that total one more time.
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How many yards do you have?
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Is he state how many yards?
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I got 55 in the head.
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What you get?
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I got 55.
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I figure 80 feet.
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And I've got one other bit going into it.
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So how much was the pit?
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from Skyline, he says,
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terrible concrete haul off, hauling road basin compact prep for concrete, supply and tie all rebar number three every two feet on
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centers, cloud concrete, forage, room finish, cut joints, every 10 foot on square, haul off debris,
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includes the pump truck and machine-time skitter and maniacs, $4,400 per feet for $6,000.
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It was $1,000, $1,018 a yard,
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$5,55 a yard, so to say how many yards?
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No, but this is just supposed to be something.
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Well, I just get paid to $20,000.
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It's supposed to be $8,000.
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It's supposed to be $8,000.
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It's supposed to be $8,000.
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It's supposed to be $8,000.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it comes out if you do the math 88 but I've always figured for 80 to me
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Well, I've always just gone 80 plus
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There you go. Yeah, he's got 49 hundred square feet
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Well, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is for the pickleball. So this isn't applicable
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Yeah, he just says the same amount
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We're not going to be able to put anything on in the bank from our building over the cemetery which I was hoping for, but we could donate that money to it.
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So from the cell to fire department we can still get the cemetery building and
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cement and the cement for the bowery but we have 30 we have but we have 30 on the
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pickable we have to cover yes and cover the 30 so all those are covered without any
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additional loans or anything needed we knitted 148 right I've got to make sure
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that's the case but we're that's pretty close he's our part 30 or 40 what's that my ours was
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40 and lamb days was 30 yeah on the pickle ball yeah that was my impression yeah it's 40 ours
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40 yeah but I didn't think that I thought when the city was 40 I thought when we netted out we're
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going to be about 30 so I know we're going to be awkward aren't close to being yeah at 36
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Well, and we talked about some things that, you know, we were losing the sand ball of all or losing the others. So we wanted to reduce our city
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as much as we could but we didn't know what that would be until the whole thing was whole.
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And I still think both oil the ones extreme, but the other ones still pretty high in my mind.
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Christians call me the other day and they want a bit on it.
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Christian ready mix?
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Yeah, I wanted to say as long as you don't use Christians and ready mix.
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You know, you get to concrete somewhere else?
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Yeah.
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But they still want a bit on it.
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We're going to have enough money, we've got somewhere between 72 and 82 left over from
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the fire station.
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So we've got enough money, we will have any spare, but we've got enough, but I think these
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guys are outrageous.
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I think 17 bucks a foot for tear out and replace on a job this big is outrageously high.
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You know, we think the only other thing I think we need to consider, my two cents, it's
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time is of the essence.
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You've got them right now in a position where we need to act pretty quick if we're going
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to do it.
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Isn't that where Jones and Mellis, whether or not we're going to do it, they have it on
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the schedule this week to pour the other, yeah, to do the slope and the drain and everything
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else that we want.
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That's the commitment I have.
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I'm not saying over pay now because we're in a hurry but I I do believe we need to make a decision and we got about three months for lamb day.
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So so I think we make the decision yesterday and correct me if I'm wrong I think everybody's of the decision that we we kind of don't have a choice.
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We need to do it one way or the other and we just got to get our bits to our we in a position that I would be okay
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Even worst case scenario and I could consider that I would be worst case scenario
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And if we can get it less expensive than that great. Well, like I always tell my wife plan for the worst hope for the best
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That's kind of my thoughts is
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Although I don't like $56,000
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It's a it's palatable
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If that's what we have to do, but I feel extremely confident we can get it lower than that.
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I'm thinking somewhere in the 40, 40, 48 pounds.
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And that's great.
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Because I'm looking at cost per square foot.
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I'm sitting in that big.
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You know, if you put your foot locked to your house, it's going to cost you 30 bucks a square foot.
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because you're paying shorthold nearing else. We've got 55 yards of mud coming in here.
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We've got five truck loads of mud and one pump and I'm thinking it's in the $10 to $12 range.
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Fair out in the place. That sounds terrible. And maybe I've been down to the business
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solidly for two full years. I think your tear out is quite expensive. I mean, it's a
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Well, that's not so bad. I don't think it. There's no reborder in it. No, but there's the yield
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listing. So you get it out of there and everything else. You got a whole wire around that side.
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You got one in $56,000 to buy it by $4,400 score fee is $12.72.
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I think if that's the case, are we in the ballpark?
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I think we have to let Kurt have some latitude to go out and get a couple of bits and get
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traditions sent in.
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Any good?
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Yeah, personally, we need to approve it.
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Approved up to 50 grand today.
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Approved up to 56.
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So when we know we can get it done, that's kind of my point.
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It mainly does need a yes, like if you're going to do a yes,
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so we can tell Garrett, yes, we're going to do it,
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have them stop where they're at.
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I wonder if we can get the discount from them not putting that drain in.
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Well, well, the drain management issue then,
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that was all you get back to is the price.
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Right, that was all that.
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This is your situation too.
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Plus a 20% and we know where that goes.
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So I was the main thing, you just, so I have a question, this kind of from a contractor standpoint,
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with it and this kind of spell.
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So when you tell him no, is he going to come back and...
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Ask you what it's worth to you. If he does, I mean, Sharpen's is pencil. Yeah. I mean, can you? Because he's sitting right there. I mean, he's already molded in here. He knows what he's. He's mobilized. Yeah, it in there. He's they would be the. He's hooking. I can't believe it. Yeah. Why would he? Why would he? Why would he? Why would he? All these sitting right there? Probably.
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Unless we can find somebody to come in and do it for, you know, 45. Right.
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But when you tell him no, we're not going to do that. That's what he's going to say. Well, what's it worth to hear?
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He may or may not, but if he does, yeah, that's something.
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But tonight we make the decision, yes, that'll be our worst case, skyline.
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And then over the next week, I need to get two people that I'm thinking of to bid it.
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And once Christchurch said, and the other one, I'm not sure it was big enough to pull it off, but
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so we probably, I'd probably, I'll take that back, because that's all we need is to have somebody
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have a problem with the concrete, because they can't handle it.
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We get best guys that know what they're doing with the pneumatic screen stuff, it's so slick.
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Can I make a motion?
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Yes, please do, I'd make a motion that we approve in this emergency meeting,
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the balance
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of the battery to be torn out, concrete torn out and replaced, including road base,
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compaction, concrete, rebar, minimum number three on two foot centers, and finish
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form and finish, not to exceed $56,000.
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Now you've got the number right, where's
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everything else I think? Okay, I'll have second, there's a motion, carry second, any other
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discussion. Yeah. All in favor? Carey? Yes.
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Yes. Jake? Yes. Yes. Okay. Motion carries.
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How does, wait, how's the citizen refill?
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How's it about double what Jones and
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the mill said? They thought it would be a thing. And our experience has been we
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come up short. They have come up on this short slide on every single thing.
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The other
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Other than they want to advance wrong defense, what do you want to do with it?
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I know they talked about putting the fence underneath the eaves.
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Last meeting.
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They just want to know what you guys can do.
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That's what all the fence can do.
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It turns to just a dab and then he's like, yeah, I don't know.
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He's put up like a fourth of the fence to keep the ball in.
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Let him chase it.
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You know what I want to see?
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That sounds harsh, but what was my comment?
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I know that if you get the kids on the dirt bikes on the floor there's that I see every day.
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No, I think there's some value to that, to something there, but this has to be done right away.
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They're going to wear the outside of the footing.
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What the other thing I have seen on some of these pickleball courts is they have netting.
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with the netting from pole to pole, accomplish the same thing as a fence, and that's kind of that windscreen netting that's there.
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Does that do us, is that less expensive than a fence, or is it any better?
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I don't know if it's any better or not, but I kind of feel like we need to keep the security as much as we possibly can.
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to keep the bikes and who's going to go open and close it at the hours that you're going to have.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, if it's open till 10 o'clock tonight, who's going to lock it?
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Once again, I heard.
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Would only let the lights come on until 10 o'clock p.m.
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Nobody's going to be able to play in the dark.
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You can put them on a timer.
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I think that was the comment put them on photo sales, but I don't think I don't think we're ever going to stop the ATVs in the motorbikes unless you actually put out a gate and lock it, and if you don't want to lock it every night at 10 and open at a 6, then you take all the fence down completely.
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I tend to agree with Bond that where there's a will there's a way and rather than have things
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disrupted and torn up and people getting hurt, I'm not sure we don't make it easy.
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Well, taking off the fence, you're going to eliminate the fence slash ladder to the kids
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climbing on the roof and spend an ongoing problem because they're climbing the fence.
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I agree.
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Yeah,
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I'm so worried about cameras in there who's going to watch and who's getting
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porcelain? Well, they recorded and then if you have to follow them and you can go back
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to it. You're not able to prevent anything with a camera but you can catch the culprit.
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Yeah, they can deal with it on the back side. I think there could be some value to the screen,
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the the windscreen and potentially keep it in the balls and play there but it
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won't be secure but it's not going to be secure. Yeah but I think that's
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but it would be hard to get four wheelers through there. Well they're gonna go through
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you that double white wheelie try. We've got double white gates on there. Well I think
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maybe I'm naive, but we, until it's a problem, is it a problem?
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So it's not go searching out a problem.
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Right.
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It's not create something just because they're the what-if.
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And if we need to add the windscreen, I like that idea though.
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That's an easy thing because you order it up.
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You order it online for inexpensively.
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So it's your width and the bottom.
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But the city comes on that and the skirt can put it up.
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Oh yeah.
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It's not going to cost us a normal light to do it.
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I think that's an economical way to, if we need it, yeah, say they ever use that, I've
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never used it before or bought it, I've used it for my dog running like the mesh, yeah
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not much cost, not anymore, because I bought like 10 foot.
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I saw it over, I went over to the hardware store the other day and noticed it and we're
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on it.
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That's what they've got around, but they've got it up against the fence too and I just don't
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know that I'll meet them.
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And this, you'd ordered online and they'd put a sleeve at the top so you could run a wire through it.
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And you'd want to run the wire through it, through that wire.
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From your eve, carry on with it.
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Or 40 times, you know, whatever you're going to do.
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Yeah.
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So, are there two things that I forgot?
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What did the price was?
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I don't think that was worth it.
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I forgot to speed up.
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Figure out what it cost to build those.
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And I looked up to make it for the city.
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but I didn't feel like I could get it done in time for land days, but I forgot what the price was. I can get it in.
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Well, let's leave this till I think what Rich said is smart.
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So they need to think about the fence here pretty soon, whether they're looking up over the outside concrete around the footing.
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I think that's where they are going to either move it or...
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So I want to get started.
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For me, the lack of consensus is... take it out.
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No fence.
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That would be my phone.
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What do you think, Kim?
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You'd be the one that would have to lock it every now and then.
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You'd live the closest.
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That's right.
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I got it.
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So if it's not secure, then why have the fans?
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Then if we need it, and we put up the sunsets, sun mesh.
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What was he put that wherever they put their foot?
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I don't think he used to have really professional type pick-up ball players.
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I don't think he's known for that, right?
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I think the world champion came out of here, didn't he?
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I think, and I'm just guessing the Marona ones is just a gate.
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There's no lock on it or nothing.
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It's just a mangate.
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I mean, you can still get a motor cycle through there, but you're not going to get a flow wheel there's a way
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I'll go through
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Well, you know, it's a double. It's a double because they're pulling out. Well, the float all the time in and out
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Yeah, so but we're parking the floats somewhere else. Yeah, that's why you're doing the city
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But you can put it in a city building and you're gonna have
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this stuff out of the maintenance sheds now in the cemetery so what's kind of
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they're usually for the talent show bringing bleachers which wouldn't fit
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through the single gate it's got to go through the double gates okay if we
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had a fence
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it's right in the middle on this side okay here's the gate we put
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would have posed right there in the middle, close enough so you couldn't get a four wheeler
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so you could still get bikes, it's like a bullard, but you could pull in and out or bolt
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it in or something. Then we could close the gates, not worry about locking them up, but you
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You couldn't get a very big, you know, for a wheel or still have an opening.
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I mean, I see somebody's in the grass area, south of the school once in a while.
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I never see them ripping around in there.
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They might cut across and go do something in there and place off here or whatever, but I
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never see them in there ripping around with, you know, like its kids and whatnot.
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I don't know if we have anybody in the park now doing donuts and rip them off.
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I didn't notice any tracks over there.
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I'm just on Amazon.
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I don't know if it's a problem.
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And I mean, a 6x50 green privacy windscreen fence is 50 bucks.
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A bucket hood.
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Well, isn't the fence included in the bit that they originally had?
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No, it's not.
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That's more money we'd have to come up with for a fence.
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I think we hold that in advance, see if we really need it, but the fence comes down.
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The evening is always your evening, it's about as important as the evening.
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Yeah.
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You've got top attachment point, if you need it, then it's easy, if you want a fence.
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So I think what we're saying, let's leave it out for now, make that decision when we find
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out. Let's get everything else done. I think it's more important we get the
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concrete taken care of, we get to take a ball court finish, do we get the
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landscaping back where it needs to be, use it to find out. So with the current
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funds, the existing funds that the curb didn't take down, that'll need to come
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down in the near future.
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I don't know about you guys, but you know I've lived here
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for, this is my sixth year, and I've hardly ever, the only time I've ever seen them being
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used this during land days, and if it's not locked up, do we have a chance to get utilized
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a little bit more?
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It's been locked up.
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That's the problem.
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It's been locked up.
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Yeah.
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They're protecting the boat.
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What?
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Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Yeah.
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I think this may be our chance, actually, you listen to that a lot of people in there.
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I think it's a great idea.
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Yeah.
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You need to concrete the other end, like you're doing in there,
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and put some basketball hoops up for kids.
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Yeah.
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Put some in it.
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Yeah.
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That's a great idea.
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Like Kim.
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I tell you the reason this lockout now is there used to be basketball,
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who's like both ends of that.
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And those rounds and stuff just got poor pieces of kids coming in.
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And from what I understand it didn't take very long to do it either.
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I don't doubt that, but as a city, we can afford a $300 lifetime basketball standard if
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a wonderful problem to have if they get abused because of abuse personally.
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Well, an abused cycle is in there.
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You have kids that tear stuff up and they cycle out.
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Yeah.
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Hopefully.
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Well, and I think what a wonderful use of the park, here we're doing the pickleball for
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the kids and for the people.
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No, it's for old people like some of us around the state and they had some basketball
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and they make it available.
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You know, I don't even care if they paint off, I don't know, hopscotch, your foresquare
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or whatever, and let them just use that as an activity center.
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It's a great idea.
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We need to do something to the kids.
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Yeah, Cornwall is going to be a lot of you.
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Paint off, quarterfold, yeah.
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Exactly.
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You just line it up and just put your box side.
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And then nobody can argue.
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No, that's not the end of the foot.
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No, yeah, yeah.
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Is the pick of all quarters of paint or is it like a...
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My understanding is like a felt or something.
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No, a little or else.
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It's just...
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I think it's just painted lines.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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But you got to the whole other half that you can do.
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Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
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I'm just saying we got a tour up.
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Did we have to replace the whole thing?
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No.
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I think just a good chance to make that a useful one.
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One other thing, too, we're going to have a more likely a new police force that will be able to make rounds all through the night for any problems that may arise, that we could have them park there for a little while to keep let kids know that.
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That's not there to be vandalized, you know?
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Because all I have to do is pick up one kid or work to get out here and the word to get
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out the next day or so.
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And you already have cameras that feed in to, I mean, EPS design help you put in cameras
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that report when there's a problem.
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He does the EPS also does the outdoor if you wanted to look at something like that that
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would just feed into a closed system and you just use it if you need it.
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And sometimes those cameras, they stop a lot of the activity that...
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Did you put up signs, this place is under surveillance?
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Yeah.
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In our old office building, we had one public entrance and in English and Spanish, we had a double
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push bar on a English and Spanish at the push bar. It said, look up, you've already been
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recorded and I had a ding. And I had a camera pointing, it was like from here to the wall
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and I mounted the TV screen up there. They pushed the door open, ding, read it, English and Spanish
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they'd look up and there's their face, not one security issue.
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Well, our house in Taylor'sville, because of who I married to, we had four different
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kinds of cameras.
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They were all in beta tests, though the whole front of our house looked like a security
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system.
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Everybody's cars would get broken into besides our neighbors.
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I think we've all noticed that since Ring Doorbells and whatnot, the doorbell vision
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has stopped.
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You know?
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Unless you get a cranky old man who shoots the poor kid.
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Yeah, that's not good, but at any rate, I'm sorry, just boiled out, but the point is, well,
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like, yeah.
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Okay, so we leave the fences down.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I still think you need that.
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The net.
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The net.
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Yeah.
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Well, I know what I put down.
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Hold any new fence, you know, any kind in advance.
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Like you said, let's see if we really need it.
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If we need it, I would be a proponent.
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I don't know that we need to go all the way up. Just do a four-foot fence around it if we need it.
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And that would hold the balls in and make it easy.
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And it would keep the four wheelers and motorcycles off, but they would still be able to use the place.
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And over in Marone, they have basketball hoops that they don't have nets on them.
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And then there's big signs behind them that say no hanging or I don't know what it's called when you they have a formal name for it
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But I'm not a sports person, so and they still have theirs
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Well those two behind the old city building are still there. Yeah
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They were there in 1941 I think
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Do we need to discuss the
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Good police department or
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It was not on the agenda for the day or not, but it will be on a council night at
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6 o'clock, so it'll be in the public hearing before the camp.
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Chief Gray.
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Okay, can't remember. It's gray is this first name or last name, do you know?
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Okay, it's a black name.
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Is it, you know, okay, Chief Gray is going to be there. He's called me two or three times.
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Who covers whales?
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They kind of do. That's exact the words because they're not formal.
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But they cover it if there's a problem.
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So the sheriff doesn't have to agree to do that.
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Well, this kind of on their own.
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pitch and land.
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They're pretty round. They're right here.
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Yeah, I talked to Jared. He
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candided my class. He said, how do you feel about him, Rowan? I told him how he said their
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business. He didn't have any harsh feelings, but he said it worked out really good because
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he said, coincidentally, I had a deputy quit and I won't replace him. He said, what happens
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if fountain green pulls out? Then I got to do some rebudging. That's all I said. But he didn't
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and how many harsh feelings about it all?
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No, I've been told that they really don't care.
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One way or the other.
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Well, that's why asked who's coming Wales,
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because they wouldn't want to cover us.
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All these miles in between if Wales
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wasn't a pass-through for them,
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a revenue pass-through for them.
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Wales will be in case of problems.
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Are we, Jared?
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It's somebody needs to.
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I would make a motion that we close this.
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Can I bring one more thing up?
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After the last city council, I had several people ask me what we're doing with
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cascades.
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And so the words are already out and I was told he was hit with the
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major fire. No. Really? There's that one. Again guys, I hate to do this. There's too
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many of you here. You can't discuss this. This is not part of our emergency meeting.
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Yep, it's not part of the issue.
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That's fine, I guess it was interesting how it was asked
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to meet by several people.
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And in a honesty, you can say there's been my knowledge,
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no decision, and no discussion in any of our meetings
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other than what was in the council.
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I said, I don't know what happened.
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And that covers you in a honesty.
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And that's the way we need to handle it.
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The rumor mill around here's crazy.
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I would make a motion that we close this emergency work meeting.
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Second.
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All in favor?
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Aye.
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Yes.
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Let it be closed.