[0:04] >> Okay.

[0:05] It's time.

[0:07] Madam Clerk, roll call, please.

[0:21] [Roll call]

[0:24] >> Good morning, welcome to The Tuesday, August 25th,

[0:31] 2026 meeting of the Fresno County Board of Supervisors.

[0:36] We're going to begin today with an invocation and a flag salute.

[0:39] The invocation will be led by district five.

[0:41] After the invocation please remain

[0:43] standing for the flag salute.

[0:45] >> Thank you.

[0:46] Here with us today is Pastor Gilbert Montelongo.

[0:50] He's a seasoned faith leader and community builder

[0:55] based in Sanger, California.

[0:57] He serves as senior pastor of tabernacle of praise Christian

[1:05] Center with over 30 years of pastoral experience, 27

[1:09] as a lead Pastor.

[1:11] Pastor Montelongo has been married to his wife Lydia

[1:15] for 47 years, and they have three children.

[1:18] All three children have full time jobs

[1:20] and serve under their father's ministry

[1:23] and advocate for the Central Valley.

[1:24] Pastor Montelongo contributes to a community to community

[1:27] initiatives through the Sanger Fresno Community Task Force

[1:30] and participates in the Sanger Pastor's Fellowship Committee,

[1:33] creating an opportunity for grassroots engagement

[1:35] on local regional and national issues.

[1:38] The floor is yours.

[1:40] >> Thank you.

[1:41] God bless each and every one of you.

[1:43] Thank you for the invite.

[1:44] It is an honor to pray this morning for you

[1:46] and everyone that is present.

[1:47] Let's pray.

[1:49] Heavenly father we thank you this beautiful morning.

[1:52] We thank you for this great county of Fresno

[1:54] and the great supervisors at your place

[1:58] and the seats of government the governance of this great county.

[2:03] For their service their hard work and their efforts,

[2:07] and their sacrifice and the welfare

[2:09] and the care of the people of Fresno County.

[2:11] We know the work is much.

[2:12] The task is great.

[2:14] We know that in your word, you said that much

[2:18] is given much is required.

[2:19] You've given them all that they need.

[2:24] If their hearts and mind are open to your spirit,

[2:28] then we believe that you provide wisdom divine

[2:35] wisdom and intellect to govern according to your word.

[2:40] We believe that you're with them at all times.

[2:43] If they believe this and stand upon it.

[2:46] To help guide them and direct them,

[2:48] and trusting you that they can build a better Fresno County.

[2:53] We believe this and we pray for those that are present here

[2:55] today.

[2:56] Those that have just come to be informed,

[2:58] and those that are here to present their concerns.

[3:00] We pray that everything could be addressed in reverence to you

[3:02] and also respect to the Board of Supervisors.

[3:04] We know that life is about agreeing and disagreeing,

[3:07] but we know that we can agree and come to a common ground

[3:12] that we want Fresno County to be better, to be stronger

[3:15] and to be inviting and welcoming.

[3:17] That others would want to come to this county, and be blessed.

[3:22] Because the people that lead us, know your heart beat.

[3:25] We pray for them, we pray for their families as well.

[3:28] We pray for divine protection because we live in the world

[3:31] today that is cynical and evil.

[3:34] Lord God, And rebellious towards authority.

[3:39] And so we as spiritual leaders and others

[3:41] join together and pray for them as your word

[3:44] says to pray for them and those in authority.

[3:47] The work is great.

[3:49] We are not in their shoes.

[3:50] We know that even our personal responsibilities at work

[3:52] and elsewhere and family are much.

[3:56] We can imagine their duties and their responsibility.

[4:00] Lord, we want to thank you this morning.

[4:02] We pray for divine protection.

[4:04] We pray for the children their grandchildren.

[4:06] We pray that you would protect them.

[4:09] That the angel of the Lord would encamp around them.

[4:12] Lord Jesus, and we thank you this very moment

[4:16] for this opportunity this beautiful morning.

[4:19] And more importantly, your presence Lord Jesus,

[4:22] and we pray this in the wonderful name of our Lord Jesus

[4:27] Christ.

[4:27] Amen.

[4:30] >> Please salute.

[4:37] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

[4:40] of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

[4:40] one nation under God, indivisible,

[4:40] with liberty and justice for all.

[4:43] >> God bless you.

[4:46] >> Thank you very much for those wonderful words.

[4:50] >> Mr Chairman, members of the board and members

[4:54] of the audience, was originally published stating that Chavez

[4:59] would be teleconferencing into the meeting from a location

[5:03] in Whittier.

[5:04] He was able to Percent in person today.

[5:14] >> Agendas are on the back table for anyone wanting to follow.

[5:18] Is there a motion and a second to approve the agenda?

[5:22] All those in favor, say aye.

[5:27] Passes unanimously.

[5:30] >> We now move to item number two.

[5:31] Approve consent agenda items number 23 to 44.

[5:39] >> These matters are approved by a single vote.

[5:41] Would any board members like an item removed

[5:43] from consent for discussion?

[5:44] Seeing none.

[5:45] Would any members of the public like

[5:47] An item removed from consent?

[5:54] Is there a motion in a second to approve the rest of the consent?

[5:57] All those in favor, say aye.

[6:03] Approved >> Now move to item number three.

[6:08] Presentation of retirement plan to Laura J Lambright,

[6:11] Department of Behavioral Health, 17 years of service.

[6:15] >> And Behavioral Health is here to present.

[6:18] Come on up.

[6:26] >> Good morning.

[6:27] On behalf of director Holt, she's

[6:34] unable to attend today my name is

[6:36] Emma Rasmussen, deputy director for the Department of Behavioral

[6:39] Health.

[6:39] We are excited to be here to honor

[6:42] a longtime employee of the department in the capacity

[6:44] of a peer support.

[6:45] Peer support does invaluable work for our community.

[6:49] To tell you a little bit more about Laura

[6:53] and the work that she's done these past many years,

[6:56] I want to invite her last supervisor, Jessica Acosta,

[7:02] to tell us a little bit more.

[7:05] >> Thank you and good morning.

[7:07] Laura worked for Fresno County Department of Behavioral Health

[7:10] for over 17 years.

[7:12] As a peer support specialist, peer support specialists

[7:18] are integral members providing support

[7:20] for those who continue to struggle

[7:22] with their mental health.

[7:23] They offer hope and assistance with goals

[7:25] when many may not see this as a possibility.

[7:28] A peer support specialist lived experience

[7:32] for those we serve the perspective that

[7:34] through empowerment, healing and self-advocacy are possible.

[7:39] Lauren embodies all of that.

[7:44] She enthusiastically participated

[7:45] in required trainings, departmental or team activities,

[7:50] and facilitated peer to peer groups offering support

[7:53] to our person served.

[7:55] Her peers and colleagues admire her diligence.

[7:58] Self-advocacy.

[8:00] Dependability, compassion courage, friendliness

[8:09] and willingness to collaborate with others.

[8:11] I was honored to have been Laura's supervisor

[8:12] for the last one and a half years

[8:14] with the Department of Behavioral Health.

[8:16] During this time, she demonstrated a great work ethic

[8:19] and was always willing to help out not only

[8:22] her peers when asked to assist when

[8:27] offering support to our person, but also without hesitation

[8:30] offered to support her support to individuals struggling while

[8:34] under conservatorship.

[8:35] She facilitated two separate groups.

[8:39] One of them on crestwood, the bridge program and others

[8:47] at Valley Comfort, the community based board and care facility.

[8:51] She assisted individuals in getting

[8:53] acclimated to being on conservatorship

[8:55] as well as offer them independent living and coping

[8:58] skills with the goal of successfully being dismissed

[9:00] from conservatorship.

[9:01] Throughout her career and Fresno County,

[9:04] Lauren exemplified what a caring and compassionate a person

[9:08] can be while guiding our vulnerable individuals

[9:10] in achieving mental health wellness.

[9:11] It is my pleasure to introduce Laura Lambright.

[9:21] >> I thank Fresno County for the opportunity gave me for the past

[9:30] 17 years as a peer support specialist.

[9:33] It was fulfilling, enriching and it helped me grow.

[9:37] Thank you.

[9:44] >> That's all right.

[9:45] Thank you very much.

[9:46] Any comments from the board?

[9:48] Any comments from the public?

[9:52] [Applause] That's a good comment.

[9:54] Why don't you come on up?

[9:56] We'll have a picture with the board.

[10:43] Thank you.

[10:44] [Applause]

[10:49] >> We now move to item number four.

[10:58] Conduct first hearing on an Ordinance adding Chapter 10.33

[11:01] to Title 10 of the Fresno Ordinance Code,

[11:01] relating to Real Property Fraud Prevention Notices;

[11:01] waive reading of Ordinance in its entirety;

[11:01] and set the second hearing for September 8, 2026;

[11:01] designate Counsel to prepare a fair and adequate summary

[11:01] of the proposed Ordinance; and direct the of the Board to post

[11:01] and publish the required summary in accordance with Government

[11:03] section 25124(b)(1)

[11:12] .

[11:13] >> I will turn this over to Supervisor Mendez.

[11:17] >> Good morning Mr. Chairman and board members.

[11:21] It's a good day to be alive.

[11:26] Mr. Chairman, I respectfully request your approval

[11:29] of an ordinance that will give property

[11:31] owners a new voluntary tool to help prevent a real estate

[11:34] fraud.

[11:35] The current property owners protection

[11:38] that we're just Getting is a POPA.

[11:49] An alert over 4500 people have already signed.

[11:56] They gave us their email, anything

[11:57] that happens on the property.

[11:59] They get an automatic email.

[12:00] The current Property owners -- it takes about $143,000 in legal

[12:09] fees to undo one of those illegally placed mortgage

[12:12] on your property.

[12:14] If the mortgage sales in the secondary market, forget it.

[12:20] So this ordinance that you're about to approve

[12:23] takes the next step by creating a low cost prevention tool.

[12:29] It puts on notice the title companies, escrow holders,

[12:33] Lenders and other parties before fraud can take place.

[12:37] It does not stop legitimate sales or loans.

[12:41] It provides an added type of protection against fraud

[12:44] and most importantly, it helps protect the property

[12:48] rights of our residents.

[12:49] For these reasons, I respectfully

[12:52] ask that you approve this ordinance.

[12:55] And I'm open for questions.

[13:02] >> Thank you.

[13:04] Supervisors?

[13:06] >> This is like you have different services, LifeLock.

[13:11] This is going beyond that and actually

[13:12] have the county actually put something on your deed

[13:15] where you can voluntarily take it off.

[13:19] If you sell the property, then you sign it off.

[13:24] You will know immediately if somebody

[13:27] is trying to do something on your property.

[13:33] >> This will be the first in the state of California.

[13:36] I would like to turn this presentation over

[13:39] to our consultant, David Fleck, Esquire of mannequin.

[13:44] He helped us draft the proposed notice of restriction to prevent

[13:46] fraud and identity theft.

[13:48] Here he is.

[13:51] Mr. Fleck. >> This guy can definitely explain it better.

[13:58] >> Thank you, Mr. Diktose.

[14:07] Thank you.

[14:10] Good morning, chairman, supervisors.

[14:17] Why me?

[14:18] Why am I here?

[14:19] I didn't go to law school to become an expert on deed fraud.

[14:22] But as with everybody, your career

[14:24] takes twists and turns you don't expect.

[14:26] I remember the day I was handed my first deed fraud

[14:29] case when I was a deputy district

[14:31] attorney in L.A. County.

[14:32] It was in 2003.

[14:33] And by 2008, I was standing in front of the state Assembly

[14:37] committee, moving forward some legislation

[14:39] to help prevent fraud.

[14:41] I have spent my career focused on this issue.

[14:48] I probably have represented more victims of fraud

[14:51] than any attorney in the country.

[14:52] There's no way to verify that.

[14:54] I pretty much know everybody involved.

[14:56] I definitely have spent more years

[14:58] thinking about this problem than anybody out there.

[15:01] That's why I'm here today to talk.

[15:03] Can we move to the next slide?

[15:05] What is fraud?

[15:06] Deed fraud is identity theft.

[15:09] It's a certain kind of identity theft.

[15:11] Identity theft is impersonating somebody else

[15:13] to get something you're not entitled to.

[15:15] And in this case, people are trying to steal money

[15:19] using the real estate system.

[15:20] Impersonate somebody else, homeowner, property owner.

[15:25] They might impersonate a notary.

[15:28] They get control of that property with a forged deed.

[15:36] And with that they may take out a mortgage against the property.

[15:40] Disappear into the wind.

[15:41] They might sell the property to an unsuspecting third party.

[15:44] Some of them will even put a tenant in

[15:45] and collect the rent until somebody figures

[15:47] out what's going on.

[15:48] I know one character in the Antelope

[15:50] Valley, who has been doing that for at least eight years.

[15:52] Just collecting the rent on five properties

[15:54] that were taken through fraud.

[15:56] That's what Deed fraud is.

[16:05] Next slide.

[16:06] A typical victims are properties owners

[16:09] of vacant properties, owners of second homes

[16:14] where nobody's paying attention on a day to day,

[16:16] nobody's watching the property on a regular basis.

[16:19] And elderly folks.

[16:21] Some elderly folks, not everybody, but life

[16:27] gets a little bit hectic and hard for them to manage,

[16:29] and so they're easy to take advantage in some cases.

[16:32] The targets are properties that are easy to do this.

[16:37] That's the key.

[16:38] They want to focus on a property where they

[16:40] can get in and get out quickly.

[16:41] Typically there's a two week escrow.

[16:44] Get in and get out, and move on.

[16:47] That's the trick they're looking for.

[16:57] This proposal, The real property fraud prevention notice.

[17:01] It is a notice that a property owner can record.

[17:06] It would be if they can pass it.

[17:11] They record that request that certain things be done.

[17:14] Before the property is sold, mortgaged

[17:20] or otherwise encumbered, they are requesting

[17:23] that certain things be done.

[17:25] It's not an order.

[17:26] It's not a mandate.

[17:28] They're requesting that their identity be validated

[17:30] and verified by a notary who has been vetted by a qualified title

[17:36] company, and a qualified title company as defined

[17:38] in the ordinance just as the title company that's

[17:41] authorized to do business in California, basically.

[17:47] And a thumbprint be taken in the Notary Journal.

[17:52] The second thing that it requests

[17:53] is that any proceeds that come out of a transaction,

[17:55] whether it's a mortgage or a sale,

[17:58] that it be disbursed only through an account

[18:01] independently verified by that qualified title company.

[18:05] That all the documents are handled by the qualified title

[18:11] company.

[18:12] And that once again, the second verification

[18:15] is made before closing using the information that that person

[18:20] or homeowner has provided previously to verify

[18:23] they are who they are.

[18:27] How does that work?

[18:29] In practice, what they would do as a homeowner would say,

[18:33] I'm worried about fraud.

[18:35] They would select a title company or a lawyer

[18:37] or some other trusted person to deposit their contact

[18:42] information.

[18:44] They would fill out this form and on it, they only

[18:46] put under the name of the company or lawyer or person

[18:49] or entity that's holding their contact information.

[18:51] That's the contact information.

[18:53] A separate part of anything that happens in the transaction.

[18:56] Because of the transaction documents are fraudulent,

[18:58] then the contact information is fraudulent.

[19:01] This is putting their contact information

[19:03] with a trusted third party that has to be verified

[19:08] during the transaction.

[19:13] So we call it a tripwire.

[19:17] In this situation, what would happen

[19:20] is before a fraudster could do-- recorded fraudulent deed,

[19:25] the qualified title company would then

[19:28] have to verify the identity.

[19:29] Contact the true owner through that third person

[19:33] to verify that this is something that they want to do.

[19:38] Go ahead, next slide.

[19:41] It says very specifically in the proposed ordinance

[19:44] and in the notice itself, this is not

[19:48] a lien, not an encumbrance.

[19:51] Not any cloud entitled, it's not a restraint on alienation.

[19:59] It is a request.

[20:01] It's a request by the true owner to follow

[20:03] these steps if something's going to happen

[20:05] to the title of that house.

[20:08] It doesn't add any new cost other

[20:10] than the standard recording costs authorized by law.

[20:17] Let me just say before I wrap up,

[20:21] because I'm interested in deed fraud.

[20:22] I've been living for over 20 years.

[20:25] I pay attention to what's going on around the country.

[20:28] What types of ordinances and laws

[20:30] are being implemented in the country.

[20:32] And most of them are window dressing.

[20:35] Most of them are not that effective.

[20:37] And when I first heard about this, I thought,

[20:40] is this another one of those things

[20:42] that's just window dressing?

[20:43] But it is definitely not.

[20:45] This adds another layer of protection,

[20:50] because these fraudsters are looking for the easy job.

[20:53] This adds a layer of protection that makes

[20:56] it very difficult to overcome.

[21:00] This will protect elderly homeowners from predators.

[21:02] It will protect owners of vacant properties

[21:06] from overseas fraudsters.

[21:08] It will protect title insurance companies

[21:12] from fraud based claims.

[21:14] I think that this particular notice will

[21:18] be adopted across the country.

[21:21] It's powerful.

[21:22] It's a way for homeowners and property owners

[21:25] to inoculate themselves against deed fraud.

[21:29] Thank >> Any comments or questions?

[21:34] >> I think people need to realize that your property

[21:39] and what's recorded is a public document.

[21:42] Anybody can go to the recorder's office

[21:47] and look it up and see exactly what the encumbrances are on it.

[21:56] And like he's pointing out, this makes

[21:58] it harder because when they do a preliminary title report,

[22:01] it'll come up that this is on its.

[22:03] So they know it's not going to be that easy to just start

[22:06] filing frauds on papers to put a mortgage on it

[22:16] or try to steal it.

[22:22] >> Exactly.

[22:22] >> It's pretty simple.

[22:23] And I don't know why other counties haven't done this.

[22:26] We talked about it, but I think everybody's waiting for somebody

[22:29] to jump first.

[22:31] And I think we need to do this.

[22:35] I think there will be other counties

[22:36] that once they see how we did it, will copy how we did it.

[22:41] And like he's talking about, it's basically against people

[22:48] that their mortgage is paid off, or they

[22:51] have very little mortgage.

[22:52] They have a second house.

[22:54] Could be up at Shaver or Huntington.

[22:58] And they'll do a title report, and find that there's

[23:05] no encumbrance against it.

[23:06] And if you don't have some kind of protection,

[23:11] and they can go through the process of actually borrowing

[23:14] money against it.

[23:18] >> It's the easiest way for a fraudster to steal hundreds

[23:21] of thousands of dollars.

[23:22] >> And this is a volunteer program.

[23:30] >> Voluntary.

[23:33] >> Any questions?

[23:33] Comments or questions from the public?

[23:37] I appreciate you bringing this forward.

[23:39] And I appreciate you being here today.

[23:47] Is there a motion and a second?

[23:49] All those in favor, say aye.

[23:55] >> We now move to item number five.

[24:03] Receive presentation from AP Triton regarding the findings

[24:05] and recommendations of its Community Risk Assessment

[24:05] and Standards of Cover Deployment

[24:05] Analysis for the Fresno County Fire Protection District

[24:08] .

[24:09] >> Good morning.

[24:10] I'll say a few introductory comments

[24:12] before we begin this presentation.

[24:13] I remember a number of years ago when I was still

[24:17] fairly new in this role, that I had

[24:20] a conversation with our Fresno County Fire Chief Dustin Hill

[24:23] who is in the audience.

[24:25] Who is also fairly new in his role.

[24:27] And he asked me a question.

[24:29] The question was, what level of fire protection

[24:31] do we want to see in Fresno County?

[24:34] And that is a question that every resident in our community

[24:38] who is threatened by wildfire in any way

[24:41] would have an easy answer to when we're

[24:43] looking at our community and how fire protection works,

[24:48] we realize we need to look at this question on a broader

[24:50] scale.

[24:51] It asks, is it positioned, not just now but into the future

[25:02] to serve as?

[25:03] And I think as you read this report,

[25:05] you'll say the answer is both encouraging

[25:07] with the partnerships, but there's also some challenges

[25:11] and appreciate what has been put into this report.

[25:14] Before we go forward, I will turn it over

[25:17] to Amy Rice, who is the analyst in our office

[25:20] who worked with a team on this project and go from there.

[25:28] >> Thank you.

[25:30] Chairman, board members, Amy rice

[25:32] with the administrative office.

[25:33] I am joined today by Mike Despain, CEO of AP Triton, who

[25:46] conducted the standards of cover and community risk assessment

[25:49] for the Fire Protection District.

[25:50] I want to make a note that Kevin Taylor was the original project

[25:53] manager who was supposed to be present today,

[25:55] but due to some travel issues, he wasn't able to make it.

[26:00] Mr. Despain mentioned that there are

[26:02] a lot of details in that almost 300 page report that you have.

[26:06] But Mr. Despain is just going to cover the findings

[26:08] and recommendations today.

[26:09] And following the presentation will

[26:11] be available for any questions you may have.

[26:14] >> Thank you for the opportunity to present today.

[26:16] Kevin couldn't make it, you get me and I live down the street.

[26:20] It's a pretty easy travel.

[26:22] My name is Mike Despain with AP Trident.

[26:25] About 40 years in the fire service.

[26:28] Fire Chief and Fire officer for many agencies in California,

[26:31] Washington and Nebraska, but most notably

[26:34] City of Fresno and City of Clovis.

[26:36] This is my backyard.

[26:37] I was watching this report throughout as it went through.

[26:40] I'm pleased to be able to present this today.

[26:42] I'm going to rush through it pretty quick,

[26:44] but we can always stop with questions if we need.

[26:47] I have to start off with a special thanks

[26:50] to Amy Ryles, your principal administrative analyst

[26:53] from the CEO's office.

[26:54] Chief Dustin Hill and Deputy Fire Chief Ryan

[26:59] Michaels for their efforts.

[27:00] If we don't have good partnership,

[27:02] it's hard to get good data and collection together

[27:04] for this study.

[27:05] We'll jump into it.

[27:06] AP Triton was commissioned to conduct this community risk

[27:10] assessment standard of cover and deployment analysis

[27:13] for Fresno County Fire Protection District.

[27:16] In addition to your normal CRA SoC that we would do,

[27:21] they also asked for operational performance

[27:23] and an independent look at the independent volunteer fire

[27:27] system, county contracts and alternative fire service

[27:30] delivery models.

[27:31] The purpose of this study is to evaluate current system

[27:34] performance, identify operational and organizational

[27:38] challenges.

[27:39] Assess community risk and provide

[27:41] strategic recommendations for moving forward.

[27:43] Fresno County is one of the more complex ,

[27:50] operationally one of the more complex organizations

[27:53] in California.

[27:54] Is probably the second most complex I've seen in my years.

[27:57] The county includes such diverse areas such as urban fringe

[28:00] areas, rural agricultural communities, mountain

[28:04] communities, remote region, limited infrastructure,

[28:08] significant wildland and this is all stuff

[28:10] that you know as supervisors.

[28:11] That service is delivered through a complex set

[28:15] of whereas most complex counties might

[28:17] have a simplified system here.

[28:19] You have this plethora of agencies including

[28:22] the combination of Fresno County Fire Protection District

[28:24] and volunteer fire departments and county contracts

[28:28] and automatic aid systems pure regional and rural partnerships

[28:33] in all of this together is how you formed the organization so

[28:38] far.

[28:40] So as we go into our recommendations

[28:46] here, let me make sure got right one here.

[28:51] As we look at the recommended response and standards,

[28:56] this one has to do with just as Mr. Merlin had said,

[29:02] everybody asks what level of service you want,

[29:04] and we would say the fire service is like a menu.

[29:07] It depends on what the community wants.

[29:09] Some people want higher level service,

[29:11] and everybody wants the highest level.

[29:15] You have to pay for it.

[29:16] The goal is to get the best service

[29:18] possible for the community with the money that's available.

[29:21] Part of that is to look at the community's desired

[29:24] level of service.

[29:27] And that's a policy decision here

[29:28] even though we're going to cite some national standards,

[29:34] it's a local decision on what that service level looks like.

[29:37] And that has to do with local expectations, risk tolerance,

[29:43] available financial resources and local community conditions.

[29:47] Part of the process that we look at

[29:49] is some national standards and recommendations to look at.

[29:53] The requirement is not necessarily meet them.

[29:56] Is to use them as the North Star, in the direction.

[30:01] Performance goals, these are broken down into what we think

[30:04] is initial and short term, mid term or longer term.

[30:08] One of the first recommendations we have

[30:11] is to establish some benchmark performance standards.

[30:15] These are just examples of how we

[30:18] would break that different elements of that,

[30:23] because the reality is the only time that matters is you

[30:26] notice an emergency, you dial number one,

[30:28] and when somebody shows up to say, I'm here to help.

[30:32] The community cares about that, we

[30:34] have to break it up into smaller segments

[30:35] to see where we can put efforts to make improvements.

[30:38] These are just examples that we would look at.

[30:40] And these are not necessarily benchmarks you

[30:43] have to keep forever.

[30:44] They might change over time.

[30:45] A good example of a turnout time.

[30:49] That has a lot to do with station design

[30:53] and how it's configured.

[30:55] How far away you are from the living quarters in the fire

[31:03] apparatus.

[31:04] New stations remodels can change that and improve that over time,

[31:06] so those numbers can get improved over time.

[31:09] But we have to have a baseline to start measuring.

[31:12] Our recommended short term strategies.

[31:14] There's a couple here.

[31:15] One is including the fire chief and the county executive team,

[31:19] Fresno County should consider establishing a county fire

[31:22] emergency services chief's position

[31:23] that reports to the County Administrator office.

[31:26] This position would provide central executive oversight

[31:30] for county wide fire protection emergency medical service

[31:33] coordination, emergency management, disaster

[31:36] preparedness, volunteer fire system support, interagency

[31:42] coordination, this role would function as a senior level

[31:46] advisor to the county leadership while improving alignment

[31:48] between the emergency service operations, county priorities

[31:51] and budget development, long term risk reduction strategies.

[31:56] The position would not replace existing operational leadership

[31:59] within Fresno County Fire Protection,

[32:02] or independent agencies that would

[32:06] serve as coordinator authority focus on county wide policy,

[32:10] emergency management integration, and system

[32:13] wide performance improvement.

[32:16] Responsibilities could include oversight

[32:21] of emergency preparedness initiatives,

[32:24] coordinating with volunteers, special district fire agencies,

[32:29] grant administration standards development,

[32:31] and the list goes on.

[32:32] The outcome of that would be improved coordination,

[32:34] especially with your volunteer fire

[32:37] departments, especially districts in your partner

[32:40] agencies.

[32:40] Enhanced oversight of emergency management,

[32:43] disaster planning and -- improve the opportunity for economic

[32:56] grants.

[32:59] The cost of this is not.

[33:01] The system is already in place.

[33:03] It's more of a recommendation that

[33:05] formalizes the position within your structure for reporting.

[33:07] No cost for that one.

[33:08] Number two is considered the development

[33:09] of a consolidated fire emergency services agreement

[33:13] under centralized executive leadership.

[33:16] Right now you have multiple agreements.

[33:18] Sometimes they can get a little bit in conflict

[33:20] or there's some confusion.

[33:22] They have different timing on when they expire

[33:24] and when they need to be renegotiated.

[33:26] And by having a centralized coordinated agreement,

[33:30] then all of the items can be discussed at once in continuity

[33:35] with the other agreements that may be in conflict.

[33:38] And definitely would speed up things

[33:41] in terms of time and limit some liability.

[33:45] It would also improve things like community risk reduction,

[33:49] allow for better prevention, public education requirements,

[33:56] staffing expectations, data reporting, performance

[33:59] measurement, capital planning such as apparatus and facility

[34:01] maintenance.

[34:02] The primary cost of this would just

[34:05] be staff time associated with policy development

[34:07] and stakeholder coordination, legal review and some training

[34:12] implementation.

[34:15] And three is developed countywide volunteer fire

[34:19] service standards and performance guidelines.

[34:21] So Fresno County in coordination with Fresno County Fire

[34:24] Protection District and volunteer agency

[34:26] should develop a standardized emergency

[34:28] County wide operational guidelines, establishing

[34:30] minimum expectations for training, incident command

[34:33] documentation, apparatus readiness, reporting mutual aid

[34:39] participation and firefighter safety practices

[34:41] the standards should be scalable to the capabilities

[34:43] while improving system wide consistency and operability.

[34:50] This should establish a common operational expectation

[34:52] that would improve coordination between all the agencies

[34:55] enhanced firefighter safety, reduce variability and service

[34:58] delivery, and strengthen accountability

[35:00] across that volunteer system.

[35:03] The primary cost of this would be staff time associated

[35:07] with policy developments, stakeholder coordination,

[35:13] legal review, training and implementation.

[35:15] There may be minor ongoing costs depending on tracking and policy

[35:19] updates.

[35:19] We would say that if you look at instances of firefighter injury

[35:23] and death, the vast majority of them

[35:26] are within the volunteer community.

[35:27] So we have a little bit of an obligation

[35:29] to make sure that we're keeping an eye on that.

[35:31] Next recommendation is expand volunteer recruitment

[35:35] and retention programs.

[35:37] There's a number of ways that that can be done.

[35:40] There's a number of practices that the agency could look at.

[35:44] So we are not recommending any particular one, but as

[35:47] an example the program could evaluate incentives

[35:49] such as stipends, training reimbursement, and resistance.

[35:53] Assistance tax incentives.

[35:55] Flexibility in the training delivery models

[35:58] peer housing partnerships and expanding outreach campaigns.

[36:02] And volunteers is a dying breed.

[36:06] It's a little harder to recruit and retain.

[36:10] Established next recommendation to establish

[36:14] a regional Volunteers training and compliance program,

[36:16] and that is where the Fresno County Fire Protection

[36:19] District would establish a Central Regional training

[36:21] and compliance support program for those volunteer agencies.

[36:30] The program would include coordinated training, delivery

[36:33] records, management assistance, annual compliance tracking,

[36:38] respiratory protection support apparatus.

[36:41] Testing and coordination and standardized documentation

[36:44] practices aligned with Cal OSHA or with OSHA Cal, and National

[36:56] Wildfire Coordination Group and National Fire Protection.

[36:59] The cost is moderate.

[37:00] The cost associated with training, coordinating software,

[37:04] system instructors staffing and records management

[37:08] and compliance, administration and grant funding.

[37:10] By coordinating this, there is some grant funding

[37:13] that may be able to offset some of these costs.

[37:15] And then the recommendation is to adopt

[37:17] applicable operational deployment standards

[37:19] from NFPA 1750.

[37:22] And that address is rural agencies and urban settings

[37:27] also.

[37:28] Our recommendations is that the agency used that as a benchmark,

[37:31] but refined that actual performance to meet

[37:33] the needs of the community.

[37:35] Part of the reason why establishing those benchmarks

[37:37] are important is because if I move into the community,

[37:38] I may have a certain expectation that that service

[37:41] level and that zone is not going to meet by having a documented,

[37:44] then everybody knows what the rules are when

[37:46] you move into the community.

[37:47] Estimated cost to implement this moderate, ongoing costs

[37:52] associated with policy development, training

[37:55] operational, data collection, staffing evaluations and this

[37:59] could be phased in.

[37:59] This is not an overnight change.

[38:02] Next one is minimum administrative and reporting

[38:05] standards for volunteer agencies.

[38:07] Fresno County and Fresno County Fire Protection District

[38:10] should establish minimum administrative reporting

[38:12] requirements for volunteer agencies receiving

[38:15] funding or operational support from the county.

[38:18] And reporting standards should include

[38:20] annual financial reporting training records, apparatus

[38:25] maintenance documentation, incident reporting, compliance

[38:29] and insurance verification.

[38:30] The cost of this is low, moderate administrative costs

[38:34] associated with the reporting system training oversight

[38:36] and compliance and monitoring.

[38:39] An ongoing, this is number eight.

[38:41] Conduct a county wide risk management review

[38:43] of volunteer fire departments insurance coverage

[38:45] and liability.

[38:47] Fresno County in coordination with County Council

[38:53] and applicable fire service stakeholders

[38:54] to conduct a comprehensive evaluation of insurance

[38:58] coverage, liability protection and risk exposure associated

[39:02] with volunteer fire departments, operating within

[39:06] or supporting emergency response in Fresno County.

[39:08] This is to ensure there's a bit of-- forgive

[39:14] the term, the firewall between what we're allowing an agency

[39:17] to do that may not be properly insured.

[39:18] And if something goes wrong, that could come to the county.

[39:24] This model should include but not

[39:27] be limited to general liability coverage, workers compensation

[39:29] or equivalent volunteer injury protections,

[39:32] vehicle and apparatus insurance, property equipment,

[39:37] coverage director, officers liability insurance

[39:40] where applicable, accident and injury coverage for volunteer

[39:47] personnel and coverage for training activities, emergency

[39:50] response operations, mutual aid, automatic aid liability

[39:55] implications and then coverage gaps

[39:57] associated with the informal volunteer organizations.

[39:59] Then we're going to strengthen the regional system

[40:02] of coordination, interagency performance accountability.

[40:05] So Fresno County protection district, Cal fire

[40:10] and participating volunteer agencies

[40:12] should formalize a county wide regional coordination framework

[40:15] establishing consistent operational expectations,

[40:21] performance measures, reporting standards, automatic aid

[40:25] protocols and governance coordination processes.

[40:28] The framework should include regular interagency review

[40:31] meetings, system performance monitoring,

[40:33] standardized reporting metrics and evaluation

[40:36] of mutual aid and contract service agreements.

[40:38] The outcome of this is a enhanced regional coordination

[40:41] and accountability for the whole county,

[40:43] and better efficiency, better safety.

[40:46] On the data systems would also allow

[40:48] you to understand better when changes are occurring out

[40:51] in the deployment environment.

[40:55] Recommendation number ten, the last one for this one

[40:58] is transfer emergency management functions to the Fresno County

[41:03] Fire Protection District.

[41:04] Fresno County should evaluate transitioning

[41:06] the county's emergency manager position and Primary Emergency

[41:10] management coordination responsibilities from Public

[41:13] Health Department to the Fresno County Fire Protection District.

[41:15] The transition should include organizational alignment

[41:18] of emergency preparedness response coordination,

[41:21] the Emergency Operations Center, support disaster planning,

[41:28] training and exercises and interagency coordination

[41:31] function under the county's primary Emergency Response

[41:33] Agency.

[41:33] The transition plan should include

[41:36] defined roles and responsibilities,

[41:39] reporting and coordination expectations with public health

[41:43] and other county departments to maintain continuity

[41:45] of public health, emergency planning and disaster

[41:50] coordination activities and by aligning

[41:52] this management within Fresno County

[41:54] could improve integration between emergency preparedness

[41:56] and operational response functions,

[41:58] strengthen incident management coordination

[42:00] and enhance EOC activation capabilities

[42:02] and improve continuity between day

[42:05] to day emergency response operations and large scale

[42:08] disaster management.

[42:09] It would also help better align emergency management oversight

[42:13] with counties primary fire rescue EMS hazardous materials,

[42:20] improving operational coordination between emergencies

[42:24] and disasters.

[42:25] The cost of this administrative and organizational transition

[42:29] will cost associated with personal reassignment policy

[42:32] updates, budget transfers and technology integration.

[42:43] >> Mike, I know our board has had an opportunity to read this

[42:46] report in detail.

[42:46] I know they may have some questions.

[42:48] What I suggest is maybe at this point,

[42:51] we allow some time for the board to ask

[42:53] questions they've had the chance to review this in detail.

[42:56] With that, we're gonna ask some questions.

[43:04] >> Board?

[43:07] >> Mr. Dispain, it's good to see you.

[43:10] It's interesting because I think 26 years ago when

[43:12] we were meeting together, we were looking

[43:14] for response times of five minutes or less,

[43:21] I want to say 90% of the time.

[43:22] And staffing standards were different in a city

[43:24] jurisdiction.

[43:24] Some of the benefits of getting fire departments

[43:29] to providing higher levels of service was lowering insurance.

[43:32] So a question I have looking at some of these recommendations

[43:36] that you have for us.

[43:38] I know some of the short term recommendations of just getting

[43:41] apparatus out to calls sooner.

[43:44] By doing any of that, do you see opportunities for fire insurance

[43:51] that people have in their homes being reduced a little bit?

[43:54] And if there is, can you talk briefly about that?

[43:58] >> That's a complex issue here I'll make it simple.

[44:02] The answer is yes, it could.

[44:04] It depends.

[44:05] There's a change in the industry,

[44:07] and the industry is going away from a locked and loaded

[44:10] readiness model to, what is your outcome?

[44:13] How often did you stop a fire at Room of Origin?

[44:17] What was the actual fire loss?

[44:18] What are you doing in terms of prevention

[44:20] to help prevent the fire?

[44:21] So that there's not one to happen to begin with.

[44:27] And every insurance policy has their own rules

[44:29] and where their jurisdiction is, where their boundaries are.

[44:32] Some of them match zip codes, some of them don't.

[44:34] So number one is you have to shop around

[44:36] to find out what the best option is for you.

[44:39] In this case, absolutely many of the items

[44:42] that are in here, including these last few where we talked

[44:45] about community risk reduction, is

[44:48] putting a little less emphasis on the operational response,

[44:52] and a little bit more on the preventive fire or emergency

[44:56] from happening to begin with.

[44:57] That's the biggest way.

[44:58] It's actually the cheapest way to provide

[45:02] the service and the biggest move in insurance, because the fire

[45:05] that you don't have, and you don't

[45:07] have a claim, that helps you and your policy,

[45:10] but it's also a regional one.

[45:11] You can think my house is safe.

[45:13] All the fires are in another area of jurisdiction.

[45:16] You're still gonna pay that, depending

[45:18] on where that geography counts you into that.

[45:23] >> Basically reduce the risk.

[45:31] >> Any other?

[45:36] >> Thank you for the presentation.

[45:38] Our CEO did read the presentation.

[45:40] Appreciate the work that you and your partner did.

[45:42] I think I met with supervisor a while back.

[45:46] I also appreciated Chief Hale's crash course

[45:48] on the complexities of fire protection.

[45:51] We have such a big geographical area.

[45:54] I've seen it myself in the mountains when there's people

[45:57] that experience a medical emergency, or a broken foot,

[46:04] or people that think they can get up to a pin cushion trail

[46:07] very easily and find out that they can't.

[46:09] I've seen our folks respond.

[46:11] Thank you to the fire station 87, and the great work they do.

[46:17] I just have a quick question for you, chief.

[46:25] We've got a large presentation, a couple of low hanging fruits.

[46:28] What would you like to see implemented long term

[46:30] and short term?

[46:31] >> Thank you.

[46:32] I think the best method of working in the CEO's office

[46:35] is looking through the report and recommendations.

[46:38] We can do a tiered or phased in approach.

[46:41] I think building the foundational piece

[46:43] of the training components to compliance, insurance

[46:46] regulations and making sure that we have the ability

[46:49] to work within the budgets.

[46:51] It's always an easy say we need more firefighters,

[46:54] we need more fire engine.

[46:56] But if we can build that in as a long term planning tool,

[46:59] but I think the foundational piece,

[47:01] we can work with the supervisors individually

[47:04] and the CEO staff to come up with some key

[47:07] takeaways from the recommendations,

[47:10] but I think there's several opportunities that we have

[47:17] to almost maintain what our current level of funding

[47:22] is, just to reorganize it within the budget structure

[47:24] to allow us to hire the bodies to maintain the training,

[47:27] maintain the efficiencies.

[47:29] There's lots of little things we can do,

[47:35] working collectively between the district

[47:37] Qom County, Cal Fire and our neighboring agencies

[47:39] that will still be able to provide higher level of service.

[47:43] More operational depth with putting safety and looking

[47:46] at reducing the liability I think it's the first step.

[47:50] >> Thank you.

[47:53] I appreciate it.

[47:55] The last thing I'll say is, a lot of people don't know this,

[47:57] but when your phone falls, it sends a distress call.

[48:02] You've had your folks respond.

[48:04] If I ever need that, I'm gonna throw my phone

[48:06] and hope you respond out there.

[48:08] Thank you.

[48:16] >> I've got another question for Dustin.

[48:20] Sorry about that, thank you for the great job and great report.

[48:23] I see this more of a-- there's so many facets of this.

[48:30] But coordinating between all units,

[48:32] meaning some of the volunteer units that are still out there,

[48:36] and hopefully getting them to the point where

[48:39] you can have them come to some of-- like the mutual aid

[48:48] isn't just you going into their jurisdiction to find a fire.

[48:50] Because I don't know if you have any

[48:52] that can go into your jurisdiction and help you.

[48:57] Are you following me?

[49:01] >> There is some.

[49:11] >> We don't have the advanced training.

[49:12] >> So we can reach out and turn the table to where we can

[49:16] provide the training given the benefits that they need to have

[49:19] insurance to help minimize the impacts to be able to come

[49:24] and support the system.

[49:25] >> The further you get from the metropolitan area,

[49:30] the more important that becomes.

[49:38] and I've got Paul, to ask him a question.

[49:44] Some of the deals, could we do an >> The answer is yes.

[49:50] I want to thank Kevin Taylor and Mike for his presentation.

[49:52] I could also say that these are things

[49:54] that it confirms a lot of things that we have been talking

[49:57] about for several years.

[49:58] Now we see it in a document.

[50:00] And as you've heard it said, if you have no clear goals,

[50:04] you hit them every time.

[50:05] This has some goals for us to move forward.

[50:10] So the next step is coming back with an updated agreement

[50:16] with the fire district.

[50:18] There was some board action where we could take some of that

[50:21] into effect and look at the speed in which we implement

[50:23] some of these.

[50:24] There's some we can do, but some we

[50:26] would need to come back to your board to formally implement

[50:29] and some we've already started prepping for pending direction

[50:37] and inputs from your board.

[50:39] >> Any other comments?

[50:41] >> Yes.

[50:43] Dustin, correct me if I'm wrong.

[50:46] But was it 2019 that the board entered

[50:48] into an agreement with Cal Fire to provide

[50:51] some protection in wide areas?

[50:53] And what we're looking for now is

[50:55] to substitute that, even though this was a 20 year agreement.

[50:59] This additional resources that are needed

[51:00] to provide additional coverage.

[51:01] If you want to talk a little bit about that,

[51:03] that would be helpful.

[51:05] >> In 2018, before an agreement, there's roughly 980,000 acres

[51:10] of unprotected land in Fresno County that do not have fire

[51:14] protection.

[51:15] And whether it's the state responsibility

[51:16] of the federal responsibility, there

[51:18] needs to be some level of local control for infrastructure,

[51:26] structures.

[51:27] The normal day to day, medical aids.

[51:28] Those don't fall to the wildland agency.

[51:31] We are able to do that.

[51:33] We had the Amador agreement that basically

[51:36] had an agreement between the county, which means

[51:41] local agency and Cal Fire.

[51:47] 2018 of that, almost roughly a million acres,

[51:50] that was under contract of the fire district

[51:52] to be able to provide adequate level of response for those.

[51:57] So we had the Creek fire, several fires in the last eight

[52:03] years for that instance that have occurred

[52:06] within the unprotected lands between the district and Cal

[52:09] Fire that we were able to mitigate that

[52:11] by reducing the fiscal impacts across the board.

[52:15] As we continue to grow, costs have increased since then,

[52:20] and we've had an outbreak of COVID.

[52:22] Skyrocketing infrastructure costs of station

[52:24] builds, repairs, replacement.

[52:27] All of those costs continue to increase, we look at,

[52:33] how do we better more efficiently provide

[52:36] higher level of service while maintaining

[52:38] fiscal responsibility and accountability?

[52:40] So this time, we have MOU 2.0, which

[52:48] was the bridge to get to where we

[52:50] needed to be with the reduction of the workweek.

[52:55] And then we have the Amador program

[52:57] that's going to go away because the Cal Fire is going

[53:05] to have year round staffing.

[53:06] So we have the opportunity that we

[53:06] can redirect some of those amateur possibilities

[53:09] into one wholesale agreement that

[53:10] would provide an adequate level of funding to look

[53:12] at a long term strategic plan.

[53:14] They would allow us to look at growth,

[53:16] it's fire station locations, increased in fire stations.

[53:20] Because the way that we're situated,

[53:22] might be opportunities if budgets align that we could do

[53:29] increased level of staffing within the Cal Fire station.

[53:32] With other resources that could help minimize the community risk

[53:36] reduction.

[53:37] Could help having larger pump capacities, which

[53:49] increase your fire protection and lowers your ISOs

[53:51] and those underserved areas to potentially reduce

[53:55] insurance premiums.

[53:55] But I think the best way is rather

[53:57] than having several different agreements out there,

[53:59] we consolidate it into one where we

[54:01] have one master agreement that provides a level of protection

[54:04] countywide.

[54:10] >> Okay.

[54:12] I just want to say, I appreciate all the work

[54:15] that you and the firefighters do throughout the county.

[54:17] Got a chance to be at your training center

[54:20] and see what you all do.

[54:25] It's amazing work.

[54:25] It's dangerous work.

[54:26] And like our sheriffs and police officers,

[54:30] you do everything you can to make our community safe

[54:32] I appreciate what you do every single day.

[54:37] Yes, sir.

[54:40] >> I think this is a receive and file item.

[54:42] When it's time, if the board is supportive,

[54:44] I'd like to direct staff, Paul Nerlin,

[54:49] to work together with the fire chief and Mike Despain

[54:53] to begin to put together an item that this board can act upon

[54:56] to begin to move in the direction to implement some

[54:58] of these things that are in the plan

[55:00] and what the chief talked about as well.

[55:03] >> Can we just do that for direction?

[55:05] Or do you need a motion?

[55:11] >> You can give direction to come back with something later.

[55:15] >> Any comments from the public?

[55:17] I will bring this back.

[55:20] You have direction.

[55:22] And we will move forward.

[55:24] Thank you very much.

[55:30] Next item, please.

[55:34] >> Mr. Chairman, I apologize that I was just informed from

[55:38] the Business Journal that we may have a publication issue on item

[55:39] six.

[55:39] If we can move to seven to get clarification and discuss public

[55:43] works.

[55:44] We'll move to item number seven under Public Works and Planning.

[55:58] Consider appeal of Planning Commission’s denial of Initial

[56:01] Study No.

[56:01] 8517, Conditional Use Permit No.

[56:01] 3778, and Variance Application No.

[56:01] 4158, which propose to operation of a special event facility,

[56:01] and grant a Variance to allow a mapping procedure to two

[56:01] substandard-sized parcels from existing 10.39-acre subject

[56:03] parcel; if appeal is upheld and Planning

[56:18] .

[56:18] >> Before we start, do any board members need to report any ex

[56:23] parte communications they've had on the matter?

[56:25] >> Good morning.

[56:26] This item comes to your board on appeal of the Planning

[56:29] Commission's June 18th denial of 5 to 0 with three commissioners

[56:32] absent.

[56:33] One abstaining.

[56:41] Application number 3778 and variance

[56:44] application number 4158.

[56:45] The project proposes to allow the operation of an event

[56:48] facility with a concurrent variance

[56:49] to create two substandard sized parcels from an existing 10.39

[56:52] acre parcel.

[56:53] The project site is located adjacent to the Northwest

[56:55] corner of the intersection of Fowler and Manning Avenues.

[56:58] Outside the city of Fowler's sphere of influence.

[57:01] At the Planning Commission's June 18th hearing,

[57:04] the Commission heard testimony from the applicant

[57:08] and applicant's representatives Pierre code enforcement staff

[57:11] provided information on the violations and on site

[57:14] inspections testimony was received from individuals both

[57:16] in favor of and opposition to the proposed.

[57:19] Closing opposition cited concerns,

[57:23] with excessively loud music and bright lights during events.

[57:27] Following the Planning Commission's denial,

[57:31] an appeal was filed by the applicant and appellant on June

[57:36] 24th, 2026.

[57:37] If your board is able to determine that the required

[57:39] findings for granting approval of CEP 3778

[57:47] and variance number 4158 can be made,

[57:49] your board may adopt the draft resolution on file

[57:51] with the clerk to grant the appeal.

[57:53] An approval classified conditional use

[57:55] permit application number 3778 and number 4158

[57:58] and adopt the mitigated negative declaration

[58:01] based on initial study number 8517,

[58:03] subject to the proposed mitigation measures, conditions

[58:07] of approval and project notes.

[58:08] With the additional conditions for indemnification

[58:10] and public water system requirements.

[58:13] If your board is unable to make the required findings

[58:16] for granting c p number 3778, the board

[58:24] may make a motion to deny the appeal

[58:26] and uphold the Planning Commission's

[58:27] denial of unclassified conditional use

[58:29] permit application number 3778 and variance application number

[58:34] 4158.

[58:34] I'm available if you have any questions.

[58:37] >> Any questions from the board?

[58:38] We will now open the hearing to public testimony.

[58:41] The appellant is here, they have five minutes to present.

[58:44] Are they here?

[58:49] Okay.

[58:51] >> Good morning honorable supervisors.

[58:54] My name is John Kinsey with Wenger Jones LLC.

[58:56] I'm here with Mr. John Khosa, who is here

[59:01] on behalf of the Sunset Acres.

[59:03] I want to thank you for your consideration of this project

[59:06] today.

[59:07] Ask the county grows, there is a real need

[59:10] for top tier event spaces.

[59:12] The Sunset Acres provides that type of space.

[59:16] Where members of the community, county residents

[59:19] can convene and gather with friends colleagues

[59:21] and loved ones.

[59:23] This is a professional designed venue

[59:28] that really is a state of the art amenity

[59:33] that the county can be proud of.

[59:34] I want to reiterate that the Sunset Acres and the coasters

[59:39] are members of this community.

[59:41] They live here.

[59:42] They work here and it's important for them

[59:44] to be a good neighbor.

[59:45] To that end, they've taken the community feedback

[59:49] that they received at public meetings and otherwise

[59:52] and have responded to that feedback

[59:54] intangible, meaningful ways.

[1:00:01] With respect to noise management,

[1:00:04] the speakers are faced inward and there's

[1:00:08] continuing monitoring during events at the boundary

[1:00:10] to make sure there's no leakage.

[1:00:13] Events must stop by 10 p.m..

[1:00:16] With respect to traffic and those concerns,

[1:00:20] the traffic has been evaluated by professional.

[1:00:23] John Rowland, you're familiar with.

[1:00:26] And to ensure that the traffic impacts

[1:00:29] won't affect the surrounding community.

[1:00:31] They also believe in responsible hospitality.

[1:00:36] They take safety very seriously, especially when

[1:00:42] it comes to alcohol.

[1:00:44] The only authorized use of license, trained vendors

[1:00:48] and bartenders who were trained on how to spot fake IDs,

[1:00:52] and to make sure nobody gets overserved.

[1:00:53] They also shut down the bar completely at 930.

[1:00:57] So everyone has plenty of time to wind down

[1:01:00] and to head home safely.

[1:01:03] We have our transportation and noise consultants here with us.

[1:01:08] If you have any questions, but I did

[1:01:10] want to thank you for your time and your consideration

[1:01:12] of this appeal.

[1:01:14] With that, I'd like to turn it over to Kirjan.

[1:01:27] >> Good morning.

[1:01:28] First of all, I'd like to thank the Board of Supervisors.

[1:01:33] My name is Kirjan Kosa, I live at 421 East South

[1:01:47] Avenue in Fowler, California.

[1:01:49] I wanted to thank you for your consideration of the Sunset

[1:01:53] Accords.

[1:01:54] I'd like to thank the staff of Fresno County Planning

[1:01:57] Department.

[1:01:57] We live here we work here.

[1:01:59] We strive to be the best neighbors we can.

[1:02:01] Our family is very proud of this venue.

[1:02:03] It is a special place for members of our community

[1:02:06] to celebrate the most important events of their life.

[1:02:10] I appreciate your time today and all

[1:02:17] that you do for the Fresno County and the rural community

[1:02:19] out there.

[1:02:20] I am a farmer.

[1:02:21] I appreciate all that you do for us in the whole area.

[1:02:24] I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.

[1:02:27] >> Any other comments in favor of the appeal?

[1:02:29] Anybody who would like to?

[1:02:35] Please come forward.

[1:02:42] >> Good morning, Fresno County supervisors.

[1:02:44] My name is Benta from Fresno.

[1:02:46] Prior to my recent move to Clovis

[1:02:49] I have lived in two homes.

[1:02:51] The first at 8745 South Fowler Avenue, Fowler,

[1:02:56] immediately adjacent to the property being discussed today.

[1:02:59] I lived there from 1962 until I married in 1979.

[1:03:03] My parents lived there until my mom's passing in 2009,

[1:03:08] and my dad until 2019, when he was 91 years old.

[1:03:14] The second home I've lived in is at 6596 East Parlier Avenue

[1:03:25] Fowler about a quarter mile from the coast property

[1:03:27] I owned and occupied the residence from 1982

[1:03:29] until about a year ago.

[1:03:30] My comments today are to share my experiences with the Khosa

[1:03:33] family as exceptional and thoughtful neighbors.

[1:03:37] Having lived in such close proximity

[1:03:40] to the proposed Sunset Acres, I have experience of its impact.

[1:03:47] Our families never experienced inconvenience from this venture.

[1:03:49] It has not created undesired noise, light.

[1:03:53] It has not created undesirable or impactful changes

[1:03:57] in traffic patterns.

[1:03:58] What has been impactful is the beautification

[1:04:01] of the property itself and the property surrounding it.

[1:04:05] The property had not been used for any agricultural purposes

[1:04:09] for many years.

[1:04:13] The owners, Urgant and Preet removed an eyesore deteriorating

[1:04:18] barn, adding trees, roses and grass

[1:04:22] to create an esthetically pleasing property,

[1:04:24] a home anyone would welcome as a neighbor.

[1:04:27] My family home and property adjacent to the Kosta's property

[1:04:30] was sold in 2019.

[1:04:32] The buyer severely neglected the property, killing

[1:04:35] two and a half acres of walnuts, have an acre of oranges,

[1:04:38] and the amazing gardens my dad had

[1:04:40] an orchard for over 60 years.

[1:04:49] >> Please just finish up.

[1:04:50] >> When the closest bought the home in 23,

[1:04:53] they cleared away the acres of dead trees, all the weeds,

[1:04:56] and a shed that was often tagged with graffiti.

[1:04:59] They repaired the house and made a lovely residence again.

[1:05:01] The zoning changes in and around the property

[1:05:04] had been significant in recent years.

[1:05:06] Our own property and my parents property were at one time

[1:05:10] restricted from building additions because of AG 20

[1:05:19] regulations.

[1:05:21] >> Could you close up?

[1:05:27] >> I have one very brief one.

[1:05:28] The county supported requested changes

[1:05:28] and were able to improve our properties for purposeful use.

[1:05:31] The Fresno County Planning Commission personnel

[1:05:33] have assisted the courses in addressing

[1:05:34] the requests and suggestions of the Commission,

[1:05:36] as well as concerns of a few neighbors.

[1:05:38] They desire to offer a diverse community in and around Fowler,

[1:05:41] a greatly needed venue where families can honor and celebrate

[1:05:45] life events.

[1:05:46] In addition to the venue, the courses

[1:05:48] seek to establish their primary residence

[1:05:50] next to the venue, a testimony to their commitment

[1:05:54] to the property.

[1:05:55] This is a unique, lovely and timely opportunity

[1:05:58] for our community.

[1:05:59] Thank you for your time and favorable consideration.

[1:06:03] >> Thank you.

[1:06:07] Any other comments in favor of the appeal?

[1:06:17] Welcome.

[1:06:18] >> Thank you.

[1:06:19] My name is Joe Rivera.

[1:06:20] I am a business owner out of the city of Fowler.

[1:06:22] I have been a business owner for 39 years,

[1:06:27] out of repair, U-Haul Fowler and Redcat towing.

[1:06:31] I want to thank you for the opportunity

[1:06:33] to come up here and speak.

[1:06:39] Gerjant has invested a tremendous amount

[1:06:41] of time money and hard work into building this business.

[1:06:43] Sunset acres is not simply a property.

[1:06:45] It's someone's livelihood.

[1:06:46] A business that provides a place for families and communities

[1:06:49] to come together for weddings and special events.

[1:06:56] Gerjant has made every effort to operate Sunset Acres responsibly

[1:07:02] and to address the concerns of the county and the surrounding.

[1:07:08] Environmental studies have come completed with traffic studies

[1:07:11] and they were done to evaluate the potential impacts

[1:07:13] of the business.

[1:07:14] The venue also operates primarily on weekends and events

[1:07:19] generally conclude no later than 10:00 PM.

[1:07:25] Urgent is not only trying to --

[1:07:33] Gurjad is not trying to create a problem for his neighbors.

[1:07:37] He's trying to operate a legit business

[1:07:39] while being a responsible member of the community.

[1:07:40] A lot has already been invested in making Sunset Acres comply

[1:07:43] with the county's requirements.

[1:07:44] Closing the business or placing restrictions on it

[1:07:47] that make it impossible to operate

[1:07:49] would have a serious financial impact on Gurjant and his family

[1:07:59] as well as many employees, vendors, wedding professionals

[1:08:02] and other local businesses that benefit from the events

[1:08:04] held there.

[1:08:05] I asked the county to please consider this studies that

[1:08:09] have already been completed.

[1:08:11] The efforts has been made to comply with the reasonable way

[1:08:14] this venue.

[1:08:15] We're not asking for special treatment.

[1:08:17] We're asking for a fair opportunity for Sunset Acres

[1:08:19] to continue operating as a responsible business in Fresno

[1:08:22] County.

[1:08:22] Please do not take away someone's livelihood

[1:08:24] when he has made a genuine effort to follow the process,

[1:08:28] address the county's concerns and be a good neighbor.

[1:08:31] Thank you for your time and considering Gurjant and sunset

[1:08:40] acres and everybody's livelihood depends on this business.

[1:08:42] >> Thank you.

[1:08:45] Anyone else who wants to speak in favor?

[1:08:49] >> Hello.

[1:08:52] Good morning everybody.

[1:08:55] My name is Ajit Singh.

[1:09:01] I know Mr. Kosa and their family since 1977.

[1:09:03] They're very responsible.

[1:09:07] He turned that junky place into a very nice place

[1:09:16] but the community needed for weddings and everything.

[1:09:18] He's very responsible person.

[1:09:20] I think we should give him an opportunity and think about it.

[1:09:26] Thank you, everybody.

[1:09:34] >> Thank you.

[1:09:39] >> Good morning, supervisors.

[1:09:41] My name is Don.

[1:09:42] I live at 5699 Manning Avenue, which is catty

[1:09:44] corner across from the venue.

[1:09:46] It's less than a 10th of a mile away.

[1:09:48] Anything between it it's just vineyard.

[1:09:51] So I'm gonna hear a noise or whatever,

[1:09:53] it's going to be there.

[1:09:55] I'm almost 80 years old.

[1:10:03] If anybody's going to complain, I'm

[1:10:04] the guy that should be complaining.

[1:10:04] But I'm not.

[1:10:05] I enjoy the venue.

[1:10:06] I enjoy when they're having fun over there.

[1:10:09] When it's a wedding or quinceanera.

[1:10:17] Fowler needs a place like this.

[1:10:18] They've done a heck of a job with developing the property.

[1:10:20] I know it was not a great property.

[1:10:22] They made it into a wonderful place.

[1:10:28] The house I'm in, my ex's grandparents built.

[1:10:34] She was there for a long time before she passed away.

[1:10:38] I would like to say, if you could

[1:10:40] please pass this ordinance.

[1:10:46] It's going to be good for them.

[1:10:48] It's going to be good for the county,

[1:10:49] as well as for Fowler California.

[1:10:53] Thank you very much.

[1:10:55] >> Thank you.

[1:10:58] Anyone else to speak in favor?

[1:11:05] >> Hi, good morning, Supervisors.

[1:11:08] My name is Rathmonten.

[1:11:12] I was born and raised in Fowler.

[1:11:15] I live on 5431 East Fowler Avenue, which is in the quarter

[1:11:21] mile radius of sunset I am in favor

[1:11:23] in support of the event Hall.

[1:11:23] I think the property event are esthetically pleasing.

[1:11:26] I drive by there every day.

[1:11:29] And he's always making improvements

[1:11:30] and he's a very hard worker.

[1:11:34] Mr. Kosa is very respectful and a nice person and he's always

[1:11:40] willing to work with you.

[1:11:42] From what I have been hearing I'm trying his best

[1:11:45] and putting his hard earned money and sweat.

[1:11:49] And he's a farmer and he's always hard working and always

[1:11:52] been working.

[1:11:53] Anytime I pass by, he's there and always greets you

[1:11:57] with respect and love.

[1:11:59] I also believe it's a great valuable place for weddings,

[1:12:05] celebrations and other community events.

[1:12:08] We never really had anything like that

[1:12:09] in our Fowler community.

[1:12:10] I think it's a great addition.

[1:12:12] As far as the noise and living nearby,

[1:12:14] I don't have any concerns with the venue.

[1:12:17] As far as the noise, I don't hear much noise.

[1:12:20] I think our coyotes are louder than the event center.

[1:12:23] I just wanted to make it short because I know you

[1:12:28] guys want to--

[1:12:35] >> Thank you.

[1:12:35] Anyone else want to speak in favor of the appeal?

[1:12:45] >> Hi.

[1:12:48] >> Welcome.

[1:12:50] >> I want to thank you for this opportunity to speak in front

[1:12:50] of you.

[1:12:50] I was kind of afraid to speak at the last meeting

[1:12:51] because I kind of regretted that.

[1:12:53] So I wanted to make sure I spoke today.

[1:13:01] My family resides at 5616 East Manning

[1:13:03] Avenue, which is about 0.28 miles from the venue itself.

[1:13:13] I am usually outside from late afternoon to the late evening,

[1:13:18] working in the yard trying to keep up the property.

[1:13:21] I have witnessed events.

[1:13:22] I could barely hear any noise coming from an event.

[1:13:25] So there's probably only been one time, but other than that,

[1:13:28] it's to a minimum.

[1:13:30] The lights are nice to have out there.

[1:13:32] They are kind of comforting.

[1:13:33] Because without them, it is pitch black.

[1:13:38] And they are not always on.

[1:13:45] It's not like it's a big distraction.

[1:13:47] There's been moments where I'll go in the house and tell my mom,

[1:13:47] the lights are on tonight, and she doesn't even notice.

[1:13:50] Doesn't notice the music is playing from inside the house.

[1:13:53] We have one pane windows.

[1:13:55] We can hear diesel trucks passing our house,

[1:13:58] shaking our house.

[1:13:59] We would hear noise.

[1:14:07] Especially her.

[1:14:08] I think it's a benefit to the community.

[1:14:10] There's not much that we have in Fowler in terms of venues.

[1:14:13] It would be nice to have something local for the younger

[1:14:16] generation to go to and utilize, especially for the schools.

[1:14:21] It would be a little bit more comforting,

[1:14:23] and I'm pretty sure for parents knowing that their children are

[1:14:26] closer to the community rather than going out

[1:14:29] to close or Fresno areas.

[1:14:35] Even members from Selma could utilize that as well.

[1:14:37] I think it would be a great benefit.

[1:14:38] Please put a lot of work into it.

[1:14:39] From the reports, it seems he is being very responsible

[1:14:49] >> Thank you very much.

[1:14:51] Anyone else wish to speak in favor of the appeal?

[1:14:53] Anybody wish to speak against the appeal?

[1:14:59] Seeing none.

[1:15:00] Yes?

[1:15:01] Okay.

[1:15:08] >> Thank you.

[1:15:09] My name is Paris Campbell.

[1:15:10] I live at 9403 South Claremont.

[1:15:11] I oppose giving a conditional use permit to the closest

[1:15:15] operating at Sunset Acres.

[1:15:17] Their facility is very inappropriate

[1:15:19] for a quiet country location due to the frequent high level

[1:15:23] of noise, lights and traffic congestion,

[1:15:27] which is all now for almost three and a half years very

[1:15:36] negatively impacted our quality of life.

[1:15:37] The first few homes on our block are less than half a mile

[1:15:37] from the venue as the crow flies,

[1:15:39] and are subject to the intense glare from their yard lights

[1:15:42] during events.

[1:15:43] They have finally within the last two weeks moved only three

[1:15:46] of the lights that were particularly

[1:15:50] bright and intrusive, but had they

[1:15:52] wanted to be good neighbors, they would have done

[1:15:54] this much sooner instead of waiting

[1:15:55] for two and a half years, since they knew that it was a problem.

[1:16:00] In coincidentally, just before this hearing.

[1:16:03] They also have very tall palm trees,

[1:16:06] which are circled with lights, and the palm trees are probably

[1:16:14] close to 80 to 100ft tall.

[1:16:15] You can see them from a long distance.

[1:16:17] Loud noise music, including profane lyrics,

[1:16:19] words that I would not repeat are

[1:16:21] heard by the children on our block and by us.

[1:16:28] We've called the Fresno County Sheriff's Office over 60 times.

[1:16:31] We don't want to keep calling the police.

[1:16:33] The police report that they are treated very rudely

[1:16:38] by the Cosas.

[1:16:42] Sunset acres is constantly disturbing the peace.

[1:16:44] I hate to have to call the police because of sunset Acres

[1:16:45] refuses to follow the rules that apply to all of us.

[1:16:47] The coast has have stated that their nearest

[1:16:50] neighbor to the north is not opposed to their events,

[1:16:52] but that property is owned by the coast

[1:16:54] and beyond that is a cemetery.

[1:16:57] We want our lives back without intrusion every weekend

[1:17:01] of noise, rude lyrics, traffic congestion, extra dust

[1:17:06] and excessive light.

[1:17:08] Water use in this area is also a problem

[1:17:10] when you have that many people.

[1:17:11] The city of Fowler opposes Sunset acres

[1:17:14] due to having annexed property less than half a mile

[1:17:18] away from when there will be a construction of 179 new homes

[1:17:21] in the near future.

[1:17:22] These are consist of families with many more children being

[1:17:25] subjected to these same issues.

[1:17:26] The city of Fowler has also viewed the numerous complaints

[1:17:29] about Sunset Acres.

[1:17:30] Lastly, everyone should have to follow the rules

[1:17:33] and regulations.

[1:17:33] The causes have not done this.

[1:17:35] When purchased, the property had a single family home in a barn.

[1:17:49] , without any permits made all the changes to convert

[1:17:51] the property into an event center.

[1:17:53] They begin operating without a permit.

[1:17:54] They knew this and have been operating without a permit.

[1:17:57] They were reported by a neighbor adversely affected

[1:17:59] by their operation.

[1:18:00] Fresno County Code enforcement issued a cease and desist order,

[1:18:05] and they ignored it.

[1:18:06] They went on continuing.

[1:18:07] We have video evidence that they were continuing to operate.

[1:18:11] The causes have a proven record of ignoring

[1:18:13] legitimate concerns of the neighbors

[1:18:14] and threatening those who oppose them.

[1:18:16] At least two neighbors reported being chased in a vehicle

[1:18:23] by someone associated with the.

[1:18:24] They have no regard for their neighbors or the regulations,

[1:18:25] and I hope the board will not reward

[1:18:27] three years of illegal operation and will not give them

[1:18:29] a conditional use permit.

[1:18:41] >> Thank you.

[1:18:43] Anyone else?

[1:18:58] >> Hi, I am Bradley Reed.

[1:18:59] Good morning, supervisor.

[1:18:59] I will not have time to read everything in the letter,

[1:19:00] but I will leave that to you to do.

[1:19:02] With regard to the request to subdivide the property

[1:19:05] through a variance, there is no merit or legal basis

[1:19:08] for the request.

[1:19:09] The applicant claims that there are

[1:19:12] four exceptional, extraordinary or unique circumstances

[1:19:15] or conditions that apply to the land.

[1:19:17] One, the property is substandard in size, and two, the parcel

[1:19:25] is non productive farmland.

[1:19:26] Three, proximity to the cemetery makes the parcel less

[1:19:30] than ideal for farming.

[1:19:31] And four, an irrigation pipeline easement

[1:19:34] traverses the portion of the property.

[1:19:38] In truth, substandard size parcels

[1:19:44] are abundant in the county.

[1:19:45] This is in no way an extraordinary circumstance.

[1:19:45] There's no credible evidence that the parcel is not

[1:19:47] suitable for agriculture or that the proximity to the cemetery

[1:19:50] makes forming suboptimal.

[1:19:51] And if truth be known, the buried pipeline

[1:19:55] does not traverse the property as claimed by the applicant.

[1:19:58] The applicant also claims the need

[1:20:00] to preserve two property rights.

[1:20:03] First, the right to split the parcel

[1:20:08] to bring it into consistency with other similar

[1:20:10] sized residential properties in the vicinity.

[1:20:12] Two, the right to create a sub residential parcel

[1:20:18] because farming is not a viable option.

[1:20:20] Farming would put an unnecessary strain on the areas of water

[1:20:22] supply, and because of farming, farming

[1:20:25] would detract from the efficiency

[1:20:32] and sustainability of neighboring farms,

[1:20:35] your board knows that.

[1:20:37] Owning a subdivided partial does not afford the property owner

[1:20:40] the right to divide the property.

[1:20:41] You also know there's no credible evidence in the record

[1:20:43] that the parcel is unproductive farmland.

[1:20:45] You have no proof that the farming of the parcel

[1:20:48] would place a strain on the area's limited water resources

[1:20:51] or detract from the efficiency or accessibility

[1:20:54] of the surrounding farms.

[1:21:03] >> Thank you.

[1:21:04] >> In conclusion, one sentence.

[1:21:05] There is no credible evidence in the record to support the need

[1:21:09] that there is -- to support a substantial property.

[1:21:21] >> Hello.

[1:21:23] I'm Evelyn Beisel and I have a letter from a person who

[1:21:26] wants to remain anonymous.

[1:21:27] I'll read it quickly.

[1:21:27] Dear Fresno Board of Supervisors, the Sunset Acres

[1:21:30] event opened in 2022 and has hosted 100 plus events

[1:21:33] since opening without a conditional use permit.

[1:21:35] They are serving alcohol and law enforcement

[1:21:37] has been called an estimated 50% of the events for various noise

[1:21:42] complaints and physical altercations.

[1:21:44] As well as them continuing to be untruthful

[1:21:48] to the numerous County of Fresno departments

[1:21:51] that they have communicated with neighbors and law enforcement

[1:21:55] personnel.

[1:21:56] I'm not sure how this continues to happen.

[1:21:59] There are multiple signed petitions

[1:22:01] by the neighbors, photographic evidence,

[1:22:04] video evidence, logs of the call to emergency response agencies,

[1:22:09] and also a denial that a county of Fresno Board of Supervisors

[1:22:15] of the application.

[1:22:16] In most cases, and event facility

[1:22:19] that continues to operate in this manner

[1:22:21] would either be locked by Sheriff's department

[1:22:23] or the owner arrested for continued violations,

[1:22:25] lies and disregarding the orders.

[1:22:27] Where do we go from here?

[1:22:29] Do the residents of Fowler and Fresno

[1:22:30] County to take legal action to get this issue resolved?

[1:22:33] Who is paying for each time the law enforcement is

[1:22:36] being called out for repeated violations of the Advanced

[1:22:39] Center?

[1:22:39] Has the owner agreed to pay for this?

[1:22:41] Will the county enforcement Department

[1:22:45] need to work overtime to be called 11 p.m.

[1:22:47] On Saturday nights to say that the party is taking place?

[1:22:50] They have had events all nights on the weeks

[1:22:52] and even on Saturday nights events have lasted until 10 p.m.

[1:22:56] Or later.

[1:22:57] Who is in charge here?

[1:23:03] Where does it end?

[1:23:04] Will they actually stick to the event dates that are allowed

[1:23:04] and the hours from 4 to 10 p.m.?

[1:23:05] Is there adequate fire protection

[1:23:06] for the storage barn that has numerous commercial air

[1:23:09] conditioning units attached to it?

[1:23:11] How would they feel when their water table level drops

[1:23:19] from the venue-- between the hundreds

[1:23:25] if not thousands of shrubs, and bushes and trees planted

[1:23:27] on the property in the last four years,

[1:23:28] how much water is being used to keep them alive?

[1:23:30] To the property taxes paid in the last four years in operation

[1:23:33] reflect all the improvements made?

[1:23:37] How did the restrooms and septic systems on the property

[1:23:42] handle 400 plus people per week?

[1:23:43] Do they have permits that this is taking place?

[1:23:46] And now you can see the concerns that the residents of Fowler

[1:23:49] and Fresno County have--

[1:23:56] and have general concern for the quality of life

[1:23:58] we now enjoy in Fowler and Fresno County.

[1:23:58] The people have spoken.

[1:23:58] Thank you.

[1:23:59] Lifelong Fowler resident.

[1:24:09] >> Thank you.

[1:24:11] Anyone else?

[1:24:18] >> Good morning.

[1:24:19] My name is Barbara Bray.

[1:24:20] I live at 9403 South Claremont Avenue in Fowler.

[1:24:20] I will be brief.

[1:24:22] At the previous meeting of the Planning Commission on Sunset

[1:24:25] Acres was told to cease and desist their events.

[1:24:27] They never did until the last meeting when the 5 to 0

[1:24:31] vote was against them.

[1:24:32] Last year, we were encouraged to film and document

[1:24:35] the steady stream of loud and illegal events.

[1:24:44] When my friend and I pulled off the road to take pictures

[1:24:47] one evening, a big white pickup truck pulled around

[1:24:47] and a man said, do you need help?

[1:24:49] I said no, thank you.

[1:24:52] He then said, you're not fine.

[1:24:56] I know who you are.

[1:24:58] He didn't know me.

[1:25:00] I had never been there to take pictures,

[1:25:02] and I've never seen him before.

[1:25:04] He proceeded to spin around and pull up to us within inches

[1:25:07] and shine bright lights in our faces.

[1:25:09] These two items were at the beginning of his harassment.

[1:25:11] As he followed us super close for about two miles south

[1:25:14] on Fowler Avenue, until we pulled over and then

[1:25:17] he followed us back.

[1:25:23] We finally pulled over at the interstate and called 911.

[1:25:26] He circled, rolled his window down and yelled, damn bitches.

[1:25:36] We ended at the Fowler Police station.

[1:25:38] One officer followed him out of downtown

[1:25:38] and pulled him over just to hear him say

[1:25:40] that he was just going home.

[1:25:41] When I told the officer, I didn't

[1:25:44] know who it was, the officer said it's him.

[1:25:47] The owner of Sunset Acres.

[1:25:49] We showed the officer photos of his license plate,

[1:25:52] and they transferred our videos documenting that event.

[1:25:55] Despite the good things they say,

[1:25:57] and you've heard this is the way they

[1:25:58] treat their neighbors with anger, harassment and threats.

[1:26:07] The Cosas bought up property from Donny and Kellie Wiggins,

[1:26:14] who are good friends of ours 15 years or so.

[1:26:16] We both raised beautiful alpacas in our barns,

[1:26:20] and we played pickleball with them on the weekends.

[1:26:22] As the closest -- it was agriculturally vacant.

[1:26:28] Thanks for this opportunity to speak, hoping you

[1:26:36] will honor the importance of following

[1:26:38] the rules and regulations of running a business in Fresno

[1:26:40] County.

[1:26:44] >> Thank you.

[1:26:46] >> I have copies.

[1:26:48] >> Anyone else that wishes to speak?

[1:26:57] >> Thank you for allowing me to speak.

[1:26:59] I live on Claremont in Fowler.

[1:27:00] I respectfully ask the board to deny the CPU for the sunset.

[1:27:01] My concerns are not personal.

[1:27:03] They are based on first hand observations.

[1:27:06] From 23 to May of 26, I observed approximately 100 events.

[1:27:13] The impact of increased traffic is noticeable.

[1:27:20] A road reflector has been removed

[1:27:22] in a driveway added to accommodate large scale events.

[1:27:27] The light pollution goes beyond the property line.

[1:27:31] Noise has been my primary concern.

[1:27:36] From my backyard, I have been able to hear

[1:27:43] amplified music and explicit lyrics from events.

[1:27:51] For example, I've heard the song,

[1:27:54] what's your Fantasy by Ludacris from my property.

[1:27:54] Event trash is often seen along the roadside or at the vineyard.

[1:27:57] The neighboring farmer may feel uncomfortable or be

[1:28:05] hindered when (Indistinct).

[1:28:15] With this event center affect the desirability and property,

[1:28:17] the value of surrounding properties?

[1:28:17] Who is accountable for this?

[1:28:19] I wonder how events will be monitored in the future?

[1:28:23] As stated by Mrs. Kosa at the June 2025 Commissioners meeting,

[1:28:34] the Sunset Acres is not our bread and butter, and quote.

[1:28:37] Sounds more like a hobby for them.

[1:28:40] It does not affect their livelihood.

[1:28:41] One interesting observation I've made

[1:28:45] is that the Cosas have already leveled

[1:28:52] the prepare the land they would like to parcel,

[1:28:54] and that makes me very presumptuous of them.

[1:28:56] And also are being sued by the county

[1:29:04] for not following the rules.

[1:29:05] Approving this teaches them that the rules

[1:29:06] don't apply if you're willing to withstand a slap on the wrist.

[1:29:09] Thank you for your time.

[1:29:11] >> Anyone else who wishes to speak?

[1:29:19] >> Good morning.

[1:29:22] My name is Rod.

[1:29:23] I've lived there since 1983 at 9254 South Claremont.

[1:29:25] In the past, one time I got a petition,

[1:29:39] a notification that somebody wanted

[1:29:41] to do a variance on property.

[1:29:41] It was to the west.

[1:29:41] I looked at it and it didn't concern me or bother me.

[1:29:45] I can't remember what it was about,

[1:29:48] but I got the notification.

[1:29:57] We have never received the notification, ever.

[1:30:06] They have been there for four years.

[1:30:10] You've heard it all.

[1:30:12] We haven't received any information since.

[1:30:14] We have no notifications or nobody's

[1:30:16] coming to talk to us about what can be done.

[1:30:19] They printed here, the lights don't

[1:30:28] shine down here they said they're going

[1:30:29] to put the lights shining down.

[1:30:34] They shine out, they're LEDs.

[1:30:36] They're extremely bright.

[1:30:37] They're not like the mercury or the high pressure sodium.

[1:30:45] Also, They built the building venue with a permit for storage.

[1:30:47] That's how they got it built. They

[1:30:49] talk about the antiquity of the houses there,

[1:31:04] But I've seen venues that use old barns.

[1:31:13] And they just tore the barn down.

[1:31:15] It would have been-- the noise is really bad.

[1:31:23] The lights are worse because they point south,

[1:31:25] and they have indicated other times

[1:31:27] that it's one of the reasons we receive a lot of noise,

[1:31:30] we found out it's coming out that they aim

[1:31:33] the speakers to the southwest.

[1:31:35] That's where we are.

[1:31:41] I don't know why we should be subjected to this.

[1:31:44] Maybe the gentleman that lives catty corner from them,

[1:31:51] maybe they claimed the speakers at him since he likes the noise.

[1:31:54] But I never properly started in a proper manner,

[1:31:59] they have lawyers in the family.

[1:32:00] They know what's proper.

[1:32:02] They just went ahead and, what is it?

[1:32:16] Beg forgiveness?

[1:32:17] I don't think we should forgive them for this.

[1:32:17] It's not their livelihood.

[1:32:18] >> Thank you.

[1:32:22] Anyone else wishes to speak?

[1:32:25] >> Hello.

[1:32:27] My name is Laura and I live at 9282 South Claremont.

[1:32:30] Thank you for the time to voice my concerns about the business.

[1:32:31] The Sunset Acres were told to stop operating during

[1:32:33] the Planning Commission meeting on June 26th, 2025.

[1:32:36] But they did not appear during the Planning Commission meeting

[1:32:40] on June 18th 2026, they stated they only had one event

[1:32:45] in February 2026.

[1:32:47] This is not true.

[1:32:49] They had over a dozen events throughout that time frame.

[1:32:52] The last event was on May 31st, 2026.

[1:32:55] Like others said, the lights are very bright.

[1:33:02] They have recently moved parking lot lights from the north side

[1:33:08] to the south side, but I asked them

[1:33:14] to do that 2 or 3 years ago.

[1:33:15] Why now?

[1:33:16] Because they want their CUP.

[1:33:21] The noise this business has to conduct a field study.

[1:33:23] It stated that the noise will not have

[1:33:23] an impact on the neighbors.

[1:33:24] It is disturbing my peace.

[1:33:25] I can hear DJ announcements.

[1:33:27] I can hear music that sometimes contains bad language.

[1:33:30] The Sunset acres said that they monitor

[1:33:31] the music with noise meters.

[1:33:33] However, there is no one monitoring the sunset.

[1:33:36] Some events have lasted until 12 a.m..

[1:33:39] The sunset Acres said that this was an existing event facility.

[1:33:45] This is not true.

[1:33:47] The Sunset Acres bought this property a few years ago

[1:33:49] and they created this event facility

[1:33:51] before obtaining the proper permits.

[1:33:57] I've never owned a business before,

[1:34:00] and I even know that I have to get a permit to do it.

[1:34:02] Even with simple research.

[1:34:02] The Sunset Acres have said that this property

[1:34:04] was agriculturally abandoned.

[1:34:05] This is not true.

[1:34:06] It was owned by people that lived in the home

[1:34:08] and had alpacas and kept the property maintained.

[1:34:10] This business should not be allowed to operate.

[1:34:12] When I tell people that they are operating

[1:34:14] without the proper permits, they do not feel it is right or fair.

[1:34:17] Businesses in the community tell me

[1:34:19] they do not feel comfortable signing the petition

[1:34:21] in opposition because they fear retaliation

[1:34:23] on their livelihoods.

[1:34:24] This is not right.

[1:34:26] It appears they don't have to follow the rules unless they

[1:34:29] are forced.

[1:34:30] Everyone must follow the rules and regulations,

[1:34:32] which they have not been.

[1:34:35] >> Anyone else?

[1:34:39] I'm going to bring it back to comments or questions.

[1:34:58] >> Mr. Mata, what are some of the original conditions that you

[1:35:01] told them they had to do, and what did they do?

[1:35:03] Like the lighting.

[1:35:07] >> Large zoning required them that had to be directed away

[1:35:09] from the surrounding properties.

[1:35:09] That's a requirement in the zoning ordinance now.

[1:35:10] If either through complaints or inspections

[1:35:12] shows that's not the case, we need to move the lighting around

[1:35:15] so it's not causing glare on the properties.

[1:35:17] There's noise mitigation that's attached

[1:35:21] to this project that requires noise metering, direction

[1:35:30] of the speakers.

[1:35:32] We've added conditions to require them to cease operation

[1:35:32] by 10 p.m.

[1:35:33] For outdoor events, and then cleanup ends by 12.

[1:35:37] In general, we were looking at the outdoor noise impacts,

[1:35:43] trying to do things that we've heard neighbors concerns on.

[1:35:45] Timing and noise mitigation, those

[1:35:47] are the things that we have added

[1:35:52] as far as conditions of approval in the course of lighting.

[1:35:58] >> So they basically did what you told them they had to do?

[1:36:01] >> Our understanding, as far as operating,

[1:36:03] I can't speak to that, although we know there's been read policy

[1:36:06] service out there, and code enforcement has been involved

[1:36:09] with that.

[1:36:10] But we do have conditions to try to address those.

[1:36:12] >> Prior to the Planning Commission,

[1:36:21] because this is basically, can you make the findings?

[1:36:26] I'm going to use finding one of the size of the proposed use

[1:36:28] is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the use of all yard

[1:36:37] spaces, walls and parking.

[1:36:42] Did they meet that?

[1:36:43] >> Staff was able to make those findings.

[1:36:43] There's overflow parking available on the site

[1:36:45] to deal with extra folks as long as they're not

[1:36:47] exceeding the total number and the OP statement,

[1:36:58] staff reviewed the site plan and there's adequate parking.

[1:37:01] >> Finding two sets the site for proposed use relates to streets,

[1:37:05] highways adequate in width and pavement type to carry Quantity

[1:37:18] of the traffic.

[1:37:21] Did they meet that?

[1:37:24] >> Yes, they did.

[1:37:25] The only condition that came out of this

[1:37:25] is that they need to do a traffic management

[1:37:25] plan for events that they work with road

[1:37:25] maintenance and operations Division to submit those plans.

[1:37:27] >> The proposed use will not have any adverse impact

[1:37:29] on abutting property and the surrounding neighborhood

[1:37:33] for allowed to use there are?

[1:37:36] >> Staff was able to make that finding based on the mitigation

[1:37:45] measures and conditions.

[1:37:52] >> And the last one is the proposed development is

[1:37:54] consistent with the General Plan.

[1:37:54] >> Staff is able to make that finding event centers is

[1:37:56] permitted with the conditional use permit now in agricultural

[1:38:03] zone districts, there are a number of them in the county.

[1:38:06] >> Anyone else have >> Mr. Mata, one of the resident says they

[1:38:17] didn't receive any notification.

[1:38:19] Did we send notifications for this kind of thing?

[1:38:24] >> We do.

[1:38:24] A quarter mile.

[1:38:24] >> Everyone within a quarter mile should have received

[1:38:27] notification?

[1:38:37] >> That's correct.

[1:38:39] >> Also on the agenda item, is they want to split the property

[1:38:42] in two is that correct that's correct.

[1:38:44] The applicant requested to do that so they could separate

[1:38:44] the event facility from their other part of the parcel

[1:38:46] so they want to build a house on their.

[1:38:58] >> Staff was able to make the findings for the variance.

[1:39:00] >> Did they build significant portion of this without proper

[1:39:03] permits they're?

[1:39:03] >> There was.

[1:39:03] Activity occurred without permit.

[1:39:03] They do have permits and process.

[1:39:04] They aren't all final because it's pending.

[1:39:07] >> So they have been out and inspected and they've passed all

[1:39:10] of those?

[1:39:11] >> We haven't completed all of the inspections,

[1:39:13] but they do have permits in process and there's things like

[1:39:16] the restrooms.

[1:39:25] >> And my last question it's been stated several times that

[1:39:27] during the Planning Commission, they were asked to stop,

[1:39:29] but it seems other people said they kept going.

[1:39:35] What do you know about that?

[1:39:36] >> Those complaints would have gone to code enforcement.

[1:39:40] We did check with the Sheriff's office.

[1:39:42] They were calls of service from February-- mostly related

[1:39:51] to noise.

[1:39:51] So our understanding is there were events.

[1:39:53] I don't know how many, but there were calls to service out there.

[1:40:01] >> I have one of these in my district.

[1:40:04] We have similar concerns.

[1:40:05] We put several measures against that.

[1:40:07] I'm assuming this is a conditional use permit?

[1:40:14] >> Correct.

[1:40:15] >> What are the ramifications if they violate our conditions.

[1:40:22] What happens?

[1:40:24] >> Revocations.

[1:40:24] We can bring it back to the decision making body

[1:40:26] to your board for if they don't comply.

[1:40:34] >> And what sets the parameters for that?

[1:40:36] >> Violation of any condition.

[1:40:36] If we get complaints enforcement gets complaints,

[1:40:38] they don't resolve the issue, then we can take it back.

[1:40:46] >> My question more specifically would be,

[1:40:47] how many more complaints would we have to get before it comes

[1:40:47] back?

[1:40:47] >> There isn't a number.

[1:40:47] It could be one complaint.

[1:40:47] If they're not operating.

[1:40:48] >> So they're supposed to close down by ten,

[1:40:55] and they stay open till midnight and a neighbor filed

[1:40:58] a complaint, what happened?

[1:41:04] >> Code enforcement contacted them,

[1:41:05] and were contacted and it continues to happen,

[1:41:05] then we would tell and send them a letter,

[1:41:06] we're going to revoke your use permit.

[1:41:08] If it doesn't improve or if there's a pattern,

[1:41:11] then we'll bring it back for revocation.

[1:41:14] >> Because I think the one speaker said they just kept

[1:41:16] going because there was no teeth or getting slapped on the wrist.

[1:41:21] I can appreciate that.

[1:41:22] I'd like to have a little teeth.

[1:41:28] The one in my district seems to be operating fairly well.

[1:41:34] This is definitely more split.

[1:41:39] We have half in favor and half opposed.

[1:41:44] It's a tough call.

[1:41:48] For those in opposition, for me, my only concern

[1:41:51] is I'm willing to give people a chance.

[1:41:53] It seems like they pushed the outer envelope

[1:41:53] and even when they were supposed to they pushed anyway.

[1:41:54] I don't really appreciate that.

[1:41:56] I don't like that I think when you're asked to stop,

[1:42:00] you're under review, you have to stop.

[1:42:02] And if you think you're going to push the envelope

[1:42:05] and keep going, that's just not right.

[1:42:14] Not right.

[1:42:16] For me, I like to have the applicant come forward

[1:42:20] and answer that.

[1:42:21] I would.

[1:42:24] I want an answer to that.

[1:42:29] >> I want to make sure that this is John Quincy again.

[1:42:32] I'm bringing up Mr. Kosa.

[1:42:33] I want to make sure that we're clear on the timeline.

[1:42:33] After the Planning Commission, my understanding

[1:42:33] is the event ceased.

[1:42:34] There was actually an event that was scheduled,

[1:42:37] it was for this month in August, and that

[1:42:39] resulted in a very difficult conversation with the bride,

[1:42:43] where she had to be refunded, damages were paid to her.

[1:42:46] She unfortunately had to look for a different location

[1:42:49] for her wedding.

[1:42:50] So that ceased pending the outcome of this hearing.

[1:42:54] >> You as an attorney, what is your justification for even

[1:43:01] scheduling such a thing when you're not fully permitted?

[1:43:03] >> Oftentimes, those are scheduled before these events

[1:43:11] arise to this level.

[1:43:11] So unfortunately that happens, ultimately the Cosa

[1:43:14] made it right to the bride.

[1:43:15] Since the planning commission meeting

[1:43:16] I just want to make sure we're clear on the timeline.

[1:43:19] Since the Planning Commission meeting,

[1:43:21] there haven't been any events.

[1:43:23] >> You're gonna state that for the record?

[1:43:32] >> So if I go and bring the log in here,

[1:43:35] they go out there and have events,

[1:43:35] you're gonna state that they didn't occur?

[1:43:35] >> There were no events.

[1:43:36] I can't speak as far as calls for service.

[1:43:41] >> Yes, there were no events and no share departments contacted

[1:43:47] us as a family by any situations after the Planning Commission

[1:43:49] meeting.

[1:43:50] >> Let's be clear on that timeline,

[1:43:57] because I feel like there was a planning commission meeting

[1:43:59] a couple of months ago, but then there was 1 in 2025.

[1:43:59] That was my understanding that in 2025, there

[1:44:01] was a statement saying that activity

[1:44:03] should cease and desist.

[1:44:04] So to your point, just to make sure we're

[1:44:07] talking about appropriate timelines,

[1:44:08] are you saying there haven't been

[1:44:09] any events since the summer of 2025 until today?

[1:44:23] >> No.

[1:44:24] >> Go ahead.

[1:44:25] When I was referring to the Planning Commission meeting,

[1:44:26] I was referring to the Planning Commission meeting

[1:44:26] a couple of months ago.

[1:44:26] And since that time, there have been no events.

[1:44:28] There were events prior, mid 2025,

[1:44:40] that's something that the coaches have been

[1:44:42] working through with staff.

[1:44:46] They understood after the second Planning Commission meeting,

[1:44:48] they needed to stop.

[1:44:48] And they did until they ultimately

[1:44:49] got their land use approval of the Board of Supervisors

[1:44:51] pesticide.

[1:44:53] >> I'm sure you're aware that the five up here have

[1:45:02] a balancing act, and I believe every one of us believes

[1:45:04] in personal property rights, you should be allowed to do what you

[1:45:07] want with your property.

[1:45:08] However, those of us in AG also believe

[1:45:17] you shouldn't interfere with someone else's rights as well.

[1:45:19] I hope your applicant-- and this is Supervisor Mendez district.

[1:45:25] You will have the greatest say.

[1:45:26] Just like we're given the greatest

[1:45:26] courtesy in that district.

[1:45:26] So whatever his recommendation is,

[1:45:28] I'm prepared to support that.

[1:45:31] However, if he is willing to give you the conditions

[1:45:38] to meet as what happened in my district, if you violate that,

[1:45:41] I'd be the first one to make a motion to take it away from you.

[1:45:41] I don't care how much money you have

[1:45:43] invested because you've been given a chance,

[1:45:45] you've been told.

[1:45:46] And if you violate that rule against the defiance

[1:45:49] of the members of this board, then you

[1:45:51] shouldn't be allowed to operate.

[1:45:53] And I want to make that perfectly clear if you're given

[1:45:55] the opportunity to go forward.

[1:45:57] Do you understand that?

[1:46:08] >> Yes, sir.

[1:46:10] >> Then we're good.

[1:46:13] >> Go ahead.

[1:46:14] >> Briefly, I agree with what Supervisor Pacheco mentioned

[1:46:17] with regards to us trying to balance the property rights

[1:46:17] of individuals that are trying to make business

[1:46:17] in their community.

[1:46:18] What I'm trying to reconcile is, and I checked with our folks

[1:46:23] from the city of.

[1:46:24] There were a couple of references

[1:46:26] made that the city of Falls was not supportive of this.

[1:46:30] I asked them, in the city of Fowler does not oppose this.

[1:46:36] I want to make sure that folks recognize that into the record.

[1:46:38] When I checked, they said they had no complaints

[1:46:38] about this property.

[1:46:40] I agree with what Supervisor Pacheco mentioned.

[1:46:43] I think you were trying to be a good neighbor.

[1:46:46] You're trying to rectify a lot of things

[1:46:47] that did not occur before.

[1:46:51] I think Supervisor Mendez did a great job of going

[1:46:57] through the checklist of what you satisfied,

[1:46:58] and that would be in agreement of Supervisor Mendez would like

[1:46:58] to give them an opportunity to do that with the expectation

[1:47:02] that they would follow the conditional use permit,

[1:47:15] criteria and everything that's outlined on there.

[1:47:21] >> I have some questions.

[1:47:25] >> No, it's closed.

[1:47:29] You can't.

[1:47:30] I share all of the concerns that supervisor Pacheco said,

[1:47:30] and concern that I have is that there have been coded violations

[1:47:31] over three years that they have been operating

[1:47:34] without conditional use permit.

[1:47:37] Is that correct?

[1:47:47] >> That's correct.

[1:47:49] There's a violation open on the property for operating

[1:47:50] event center without permits.

[1:47:50] Code enforcement has been actively involved in that,

[1:47:50] dealing with them.

[1:47:51] >> So if they've been actively violating, not having permits.

[1:47:58] How have we not shut them down for three years?

[1:48:00] >> I can't speak to code enforcement actions.

[1:48:07] Specifically code enforcement has been invited.

[1:48:09] There may be someone here that can

[1:48:09] speak to enforcement ongoing investigations and interactions

[1:48:09] with the property owner.

[1:48:10] They are aware and we are aware of their activities

[1:48:12] and code enforcement staff they speak at the Planning Commission

[1:48:15] regarding their investigations on the site.

[1:48:17] >> Anybody from code enforcement want to address it?

[1:48:34] >> Good morning.

[1:48:35] I'm here with El Harrison, who can speak for those items.

[1:48:45] >> sure.

[1:48:46] >> Good morning.

[1:48:48] Thank you.

[1:48:50] We filed an injunction and process for 8853 South Fowler,

[1:48:50] also known as Sunset Acre.

[1:48:50] It's in Wood County Council.

[1:48:51] >> You filed an injunction to shut them down?

[1:48:59] >> That is correct.

[1:49:04] Injunction was filed in June 13th of 24.

[1:49:06] It is still in process with the County Council.

[1:49:08] They are in mediation with the attorneys for Sunset Acres.

[1:49:11] >> So why has this taken two years?

[1:49:23] June 2024.

[1:49:26] >> I don't know why it's taking so long.

[1:49:27] I know the temporary restraining order was last November.

[1:49:27] The preliminary injunction which was just spoken up

[1:49:27] is telling the court process.

[1:49:29] >> I think we have to do better than this.

[1:49:38] We have people who have been complaining.

[1:49:46] The I'm troubled by this.

[1:49:47] It feels like we've allowed people to operate illegally.

[1:49:50] And here we are.

[1:49:53] They're asking to now operate legally

[1:49:55] after operating illegally for several years.

[1:49:56] That's quite troubling to me.

[1:50:03] It feels like somehow we've let down people.

[1:50:04] I think we need to own that.

[1:50:12] In terms of the conditional use permit--

[1:50:13] let me ask you this question.

[1:50:17] It says in the staff report that when they went to the Planning

[1:50:17] Commission, a motion was made to deny

[1:50:17] the applications due to an inability

[1:50:18] to make any of the required findings for the UCUP

[1:50:28] nor the required findings for the variance.

[1:50:30] At that time, were the findings were not there,

[1:50:30] but they're saying the findings are there today?

[1:50:30] >> The Planning Commission disagrees with

[1:50:32] staff's recommendation on testimony.

[1:50:34] They received in the the permit.

[1:50:36] Ours is a recommendation.

[1:50:38] They chose to not be able to make those findings.

[1:50:51] >> So the Planning commission's findings.

[1:50:53] I got that.

[1:50:53] On the conditional use permit, what limits

[1:50:53] are you imposing on them in terms of time, operation, noise

[1:50:57] to address the concerns of the neighbors?

[1:51:00] >> We're limiting outdoor operations to cease at 10 p.m.

[1:51:08] And there's noise mitigation to address On-Site noise

[1:51:10] monitoring, at the speakers are turned.

[1:51:14] Other mitigation measures to try to address those factors.

[1:51:19] Based on the noise study that the applicants noise

[1:51:23] analyst prepared, the application

[1:51:26] did not violate our noise ordinance,

[1:51:28] we were agreeable to the analysis that was provided.

[1:51:31] I will say that your board can further limit operations.

[1:51:34] They can say no outdoor events.

[1:51:37] Outdoor events can cease at 9 p.m.

[1:51:40] And your board can also add staff

[1:51:42] recommending two additional conditions of approval.

[1:51:45] And the other is the community water system.

[1:51:47] A third condition of approval could

[1:51:49] be that if staff receives three validated complaints

[1:51:52] for not operating within compliance of these permits,

[1:51:55] that we bring it back to the decision

[1:51:57] making body for revocation or whatever your board desires.

[1:52:09] >> I also share the same feeling with Supervisor Pacheco.

[1:52:12] I am very supportive of my colleague

[1:52:13] and what he wants to do in his district.

[1:52:16] I'm wondering, if some of these issues

[1:52:23] around the conditional use permit

[1:52:25] and their limitations and requirements of approving

[1:52:25] the Conditional use permit, if there's some way

[1:52:27] to have neighbors meet with the property owner

[1:52:29] to come up with some agreed limitations

[1:52:32] on the conditional use permit?

[1:52:35] I don't know if that creates a problem for you.

[1:52:43] No?

[1:52:45] Okay.

[1:52:48] I am concerned about this gentleman

[1:52:50] having operated for several years without legal permits.

[1:52:52] I do think we need to be sensitive to what

[1:52:58] the neighbors are requesting and the concerns that they have.

[1:53:00] With that, I'm looking forward to hearing from my colleague.

[1:53:08] >> I asked Supervisor Pacheco, the one we were talking about

[1:53:11] before, because we put on extra limitations.

[1:53:20] >> I don't recall everything.

[1:53:22] It was several years ago.

[1:53:23] Whatever we did to that, I would put on the exact same thing

[1:53:23] here to be equal and to be fair.

[1:53:25] And it seems to be working well for me

[1:53:27] I have not had one complaint since we've done that.

[1:53:30] There are neighbors that literally live next door

[1:53:33] across the street, and they have been great neighbors

[1:53:43] and abided by the rules.

[1:53:44] I would like to put a similar on this property

[1:53:44] based on what we heard today.

[1:53:46] Are you familiar?

[1:53:47] I am.

[1:53:48] We took that approach with the application.

[1:53:50] Initially the applicant requested later time.

[1:53:54] Working through with this process,

[1:53:56] and we can't speak to how late they have been operating

[1:53:59] to date, but the approach we took was 10 p.m..

[1:54:02] All events have to cease.

[1:54:04] No more amplified music.

[1:54:05] We do allow them two hours for cleanup.

[1:54:15] So that falls very similar to what you described.

[1:54:18] We anticipated that, given the amount of controversy

[1:54:20] and complaints we received.

[1:54:20] We scaled back their operation from what they originally

[1:54:21] proposed.

[1:54:22] >> And they still have to follow the noise ordinance.

[1:54:32] >> They do.

[1:54:32] And they're required to conduct sampling noise surveys

[1:54:32] while the activities are ongoing.

[1:54:32] We have the ability to monitor what the noise levels are

[1:54:35] as these events occur.

[1:54:37] To Chris's point, if we get validated complaints

[1:54:41] that they're not following their rules or conditions,

[1:54:44] and they've heard pretty clearly that this board will not

[1:54:49] hesitate to resend that permit.

[1:54:54] And I know the neighbors will be monitoring that.

[1:55:05] >> I'm okay with that.

[1:55:06] >> I'll actually familiar with the area.

[1:55:10] >> And I think they understand we take that away

[1:55:14] in a heartbeat.

[1:55:14] I don't care how much you invested.

[1:55:14] You either do it the right way, or you lose that privilege.

[1:55:17] >> I'll make that into a motion, under those circumstances that

[1:55:26] Supervisor Pacheco outlined.

[1:55:32] >> I'll second.

[1:55:34] >> All those in favor, say aye.

[1:55:39] The motion passes >> And just for clarification, your motion

[1:55:43] included other recommended conditions in the additional?

[1:55:45] >> Yes.

[1:55:47] And if they violate them, bring it right back.

[1:55:51] I want to take you to item number six.

[1:56:00] >> It appears that the notice of public hearing was not published

[1:56:02] in a newspaper of general circulation.

[1:56:02] We contacted this morning and they

[1:56:04] confirmed that they did receive notice on the clerk's office.

[1:56:06] Unfortunately fell through the cracks on their end.

[1:56:09] I will put processes in place to avoid

[1:56:12] the situation in the future.

[1:56:14] Will put extra steps over.

[1:56:16] Item six will be continuing until September 8th.

[1:56:19] We will publish it Friday, get confirmation from the newspaper

[1:56:22] of General circulation, and that will give us ten days so it

[1:56:27] lands just right for September 8th.

[1:56:29] We will now move to item number eight under Public Works

[1:56:33] and Planning pure .

[1:56:47] Consider and approve petition for cancellation of Agricultural

[1:56:50] Land Conservation Contract No.

[1:56:50] 8271 filed by Yamabe & Horn Engineering,

[1:56:50] on behalf of Joseph Crown (Applicant),

[1:56:50] to a 38.18-acre parcel from Williamson Act Program to allow

[1:56:50] parcel to be annexed to City of and developed as a residential

[1:56:50] subdivision; and after making all five required findings

[1:56:50] listed Government Code, Section 51282(b),

[1:56:50] take the following actions: a) adopt and authorize to execute

[1:56:50] Resolution authorizing cancellation of ALCC No.

[1:56:52] 8271; and b) authorize Chairman execute Certificate of Tentative

[1:57:08] .

[1:57:10] >> This item is our request to approve a petition

[1:57:10] for cancellation for agricultural and conservation

[1:57:12] contract number 8271 between approximately 38 acres.

[1:57:20] Staff was able to make all of the cancellation findings,

[1:57:23] recommends approval of this request

[1:57:23] that concludes my presentation.

[1:57:25] >> Any comments from the board?

[1:57:30] Any comments from the public?

[1:57:31] Is there a motion and a second?

[1:57:34] All those in favor, say aye.

[1:57:46] It passes unanimously.

[1:57:47] Next item.

[1:57:48] >> We now move to item number nine.

[1:57:50] Or of supervisor's committee reports and comments.

[1:57:52] >> Any reports or comments?

[1:58:00] >> Some of Fresno County staff, my office we have a community

[1:58:02] meeting which is going to take place tomorrow for Silver

[1:58:03] Springs, water work district 40.

[1:58:04] I want to thank staff and I know that we're reaching out

[1:58:06] to the State Water Board as well to try

[1:58:08] to see if we can get a representative coming out.

[1:58:10] We've got over 100 special districts in Fresno County,

[1:58:13] I brought it up in the past that there

[1:58:15] are many challenges and the strains that we face as a county

[1:58:19] as it relates to a lot of our districts,

[1:58:21] whether it be water districts, CSAs, CSDs,

[1:58:36] so I think it's important for us to be fully engaged

[1:58:38] in that front.

[1:58:38] Meeting going to take place tomorrow.

[1:58:38] I know many residents are going to be coming out for that.

[1:58:38] I look forward to providing an update

[1:58:38] on outcomes from that meeting.

[1:58:39] A lot of other things going on.

[1:58:41] I will say yield my time back to buddy,

[1:58:44] because he always has witty things he likes to say.

[1:58:58] >> I'll make a comment.

[1:58:59] I see Ben Ewell sitting in the back there.

[1:58:59] He has two of his sons with him.

[1:59:00] It's always good to see Ben.

[1:59:13] >> Anyone else?

[1:59:14] No.

[1:59:15] We don't have any-

[1:59:18] >> We now move to item number ten.

[1:59:20] Board appointments.

[1:59:20] >> None?

[1:59:22] Nope.

[1:59:23] We will move on to the next.

[1:59:28] >> We will now move to item number 11, public presentations.

[1:59:30] This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons.

[1:59:39] >> Any comments from the public on any matter not on this agenda

[1:59:42] or any comments from the public on closed sessions item 13

[1:59:42] through 22?

[1:59:43] Please come forward.

[2:00:01] >> My name is Jennifer Taber.

[2:00:02] I'm a resident and customer of Fresno County Water Works

[2:00:02] district number 40, Shaver Springs.

[2:00:02] I want to put several facts from the government's own records

[2:00:03] into public record today.

[2:00:04] Because residents deserve an explanation of what

[2:00:07] happened to this water system over the last 17 years.

[2:00:13] Records dating back to 2008, 2009

[2:00:17] describe an extremely Serious situation

[2:00:30] of WWD-40, all wells that served w WD 40 have been contaminated

[2:00:40] with uranium nitrates.

[2:00:41] As a result, the district no longer possesses drinking water.

[2:00:42] Another government record describes 5 or 6 wells

[2:00:44] chemically or radiologically contaminated in the state's.

[2:00:47] The district does not have potable water.

[2:00:49] That same record identifies three water storage tanks

[2:00:52] and the -- it also states that four existing wells were

[2:00:55] supposed to be destroyed pursuant to recommendations from

[2:00:57] the California Department of Public Health.

[2:00:59] In March 20th 2025 state drinking water document states

[2:01:03] that compliance order was issued in 2009 for uranium MCL

[2:01:09] noncompliance at Wells six.

[2:01:10] Another compliance order was issued in 2013

[2:01:19] for a gross-- the water system must comply

[2:01:25] with the requirements of compliance orders

[2:01:27] until the water system is returned to compliance.

[2:01:27] What happened between the record saying the district

[2:01:27] does not possess potable district water and Fresno County

[2:01:31] providing the water to WWD40 customers.

[2:01:35] Is that tank still part of our drinking water system today?

[2:01:40] The board has authority to call an emergency.

[2:01:45] I want the record to be clear that Fresno County is not

[2:01:49] limited simply to waiting for another agency to act.

[2:02:04] >> Thank you, ma'am.

[2:02:07] Next, please.

[2:02:08] >> Hi.

[2:02:09] Good afternoon.

[2:02:09] I am a young resident of Shaver Springs.

[2:02:10] My name is Kelly Taber.

[2:02:10] I live in Shaver Springs.

[2:02:11] I'm not a water engineer, attorney or governor official.

[2:02:20] I'm a young person who should be able to turn

[2:02:22] on a faucet in my home without wondering

[2:02:22] whether the water is safe.

[2:02:22] Over the past several months I've

[2:02:22] watched my mom spend countless hours trying

[2:02:23] to understand what has happened to our water system.

[2:02:25] What she found didn't come from Facebook or rumors.

[2:02:28] It came from the government records.

[2:02:30] Those records talk about uranium gross alpha, contaminated wells.

[2:02:36] A system that was described as not having potable water

[2:02:39] in a storage tank that was described

[2:02:42] as deteriorating beyond repair.

[2:02:44] These problems started when I was a little kid

[2:02:47] and some of them even started before I was born.

[2:02:50] Yet, families are still standing here asking what happened.

[2:02:56] Young people in Silver Springs didn't create these problems.

[2:03:03] We can't inspect the water tank ourselves.

[2:03:05] We can't replace the contaminant well.

[2:03:05] We can't issue an emergency declaration.

[2:03:07] We can't force a government agency

[2:03:08] to fix the public water system.

[2:03:10] We depend on adults like you, responsible for the system

[2:03:24] to protect us.

[2:03:24] I'm not standing here today to tell you

[2:03:24] what our water costs anyone's illness.

[2:03:24] I'm asking something much simpler.

[2:03:24] Please make sure the water provided to our families is safe

[2:03:27] and prove it with testing inspections and records.

[2:03:29] If the tanks haven't been internally inspected,

[2:03:32] inspect them.

[2:03:33] It's not that hard.

[2:03:34] If contaminated wells were supposed to be destroyed,

[2:03:38] show us what happened to them, and while these questions are

[2:03:41] being resolved, please do everything within your authority

[2:03:52] to help families obtain safe drinking water.

[2:03:53] Please treat the families and children of Silver Springs,

[2:04:00] like how you would treat your family.

[2:04:02] We shouldn't have to wait for something worse

[2:04:02] to happen before someone decides this deserves urgent action.

[2:04:02] Thank you for listening.

[2:04:05] >> Hello.

[2:04:08] My name is Jessica Mahoney.

[2:04:13] I'm here to support the families of Shaver Springs California.

[2:04:16] Their water system has been horrible for years.

[2:04:18] Before and after the Creek fire incident.

[2:04:22] Our resident of district three.

[2:04:28] I did not live in Silver Springs,

[2:04:29] but this doesn't mean I don't care.

[2:04:29] I volunteered with the Red cross during the Creek Fire.

[2:04:29] I helped people get into motels.

[2:04:30] I delivered food to the motels.

[2:04:32] I care about our community and our neighbors.

[2:04:36] Our neighbors our neighbors in Christ

[2:04:38] and human beings that deserve clean and safe drinking

[2:04:43] water I submitted to the county clerk this document

[2:04:47] from last year.

[2:04:50] Sanitary Survey report on Silver Springs Wells.

[2:04:54] They give you 15 different items to fix your different timelines.

[2:05:00] Three of them were immediate corrections.

[2:05:04] One was called to Billy, which is

[2:05:08] the discoloration of the water.

[2:05:10] It's caused by minerals, bacteria.

[2:05:15] Bio contaminants.

[2:05:18] High iron and uranium.

[2:05:20] It's in that water.

[2:05:23] And Jubilee is usually one m HCl.

[2:05:26] This was 28 according to EPA.

[2:05:30] Anything over a five is dangerous to drink

[2:05:32] and should not be drunk by anybody.

[2:05:35] Not just babies.

[2:05:37] Not elderly or people that are sick.

[2:05:39] Nobody should be drinking the water at a w w d 40.

[2:05:44] These people need bottled water like you guys did in Creek.

[2:05:49] Those areas a couple of years ago

[2:05:51] I don't know why these wells haven't been fixed.

[2:05:54] That property across from militant the development

[2:05:57] a few years ago they got a COVID loan to fix their wells.

[2:06:01] These people are not big developers.

[2:06:03] Their families paid a high rate.

[2:06:06] The biggest in the country.

[2:06:08] Thousands of dollars each month for water they cannot drink.

[2:06:24] >> Thank you.

[2:06:25] >> Good morning.

[2:06:29] My name is Olga Maria Silva.

[2:06:30] I live in the community of Del Rey.

[2:06:31] Del Rey is a small community of a lot

[2:06:38] of poor people, a lot of seniors people

[2:06:42] that do not have a lot of resources.

[2:06:44] I'm here to talk about an intersection

[2:06:44] of Del Rey and American Avenue.

[2:06:44] It's a very dangerous intersection.

[2:06:44] There have been many accidents.

[2:06:45] I passed by their daily.

[2:06:47] I have had very often serious near-misses

[2:06:54] of having an accident here there have been deaths there before.

[2:06:57] There have been accidents recorded in the past.

[2:07:00] A lot of people that I know I've had near

[2:07:10] misses or been run off the road.

[2:07:12] They do not report it because a lot of Mexican people

[2:07:14] don't like reporting things.

[2:07:14] You guys have done, or there have

[2:07:14] been measures where they put flashing lights

[2:07:16] and they sign that says cross traffic does not stop.

[2:07:24] And that's fine, but it's not going to solve the problem.

[2:07:32] We've been having this problem for years.

[2:07:34] We need a four way stop there.

[2:07:43] Someone said it's a highway or a major street

[2:07:45] especially for the business of Palm Wonderful, which is true

[2:07:53] but there's a stop sign a mile down American and McCall,

[2:07:55] and there's another one on Bethel.

[2:07:57] So we're requesting that you provide another stop sign.

[2:08:00] There's an issue with visibility.

[2:08:02] If you're on Del Ray Avenue heading north,

[2:08:05] you have a light pole.

[2:08:15] You have bushes and mailboxes, and you have

[2:08:18] vehicles that parked there.

[2:08:19] That's becomes unsafe.

[2:08:19] You have to pull out into the middle of the road

[2:08:19] to see oncoming traffic.

[2:08:19] Which are mostly big trucks.

[2:08:21] You have weeds.

[2:08:23] So we're asking, is it going to take another death?

[2:08:26] I hope not.

[2:08:40] >> Thank you.

[2:08:45] >> Hi, good afternoon.

[2:08:46] Victoria with the California road legal assistance.

[2:08:46] I'm here because we work with the community group

[2:08:46] in the community of Del Rey.

[2:08:48] We are here to request for an all way stop

[2:08:53] on Del Rey and American Avenue.

[2:09:09] In December of 2014 a young lady named

[2:09:10] Alejandra Yanez lost her life, leaving

[2:09:12] behind an eight month old child who is now 11.

[2:09:23] Marvin will not ever know his mother.

[2:09:26] He will never remember what her touch is like.

[2:09:28] I would just like to take something.

[2:09:36] For the supervisor Mendez referred

[2:09:38] to when he was dealing with the divider

[2:09:38] that they put on to the 41 between L'amour and Riverdale.

[2:09:40] Board of Supervisor Mendes, you made

[2:09:51] it clear that this divider was a Band-Aid on a broken arm.

[2:09:54] So here as somebody who works with the community of Del Rey,

[2:09:57] we'd like for you to help them move forward

[2:09:59] and help them take off that Band-Aid for the intersection

[2:10:02] of Del Rey and American Avenue.

[2:10:06] Help put a cast on that arm so that they

[2:10:10] can start healing and have a more safer way of commuting

[2:10:18] to and from the community of Del Rey.

[2:10:31] It's very important to make this intersection safe

[2:10:33] and move forward with taking off that

[2:10:33] Band-Aid and putting on a cast and letting them heal

[2:10:35] in the community of Del Rey.

[2:10:50] Thank you.

[2:10:51] >> Thank you.

[2:10:52] >> Good.

[2:10:53] My name is Amanda Estrada.

[2:10:54] I'm asking for the four way Stop...

[2:11:15] I don't live Del Rey anymore, but I'm through there every day.

[2:11:19] I'm part of Shining Life I'm also

[2:11:20] part of the Delray community.

[2:11:22] When you lose someone, it's a person.

[2:11:45] My Grandson is Marvin Gonzalez.

[2:11:51] The only you can get is what the AI can make.

[2:11:57] The roads are dangerous.

[2:12:01] This is my second time up here.

[2:12:05] But before this, I've been signatures.

[2:12:12] Whatever needs to be done, I stop I'm doing.

[2:12:14] I help run a food ministry. have my own.

[2:12:14] But whatever it takes to to get these four stops,

[2:12:14] it's not going to bring her back.

[2:12:17] But it might help somebody save their life.

[2:12:20] When you guys go home, your wives expect you Home safe.

[2:12:31] She left-- and we got a phone call saying, go get her.

[2:12:50] We had to drag my son.

[2:12:51] Four couldn't get him off.

[2:12:51] He was saying, let get her.

[2:12:51] We need this done.

[2:12:51] Whatever it takes.

[2:12:51] If you need us to sit there and record whatever it is,

[2:12:57] let us know, because it's just my family.

[2:13:10] It's everybody else's.

[2:13:13] Thank you.

[2:13:16] >> Thank you, ma'am.

[2:13:18] >> , supervisor. name is Joel Hinojosa.

[2:13:19] That was my wife. were devastated

[2:13:19] when this accident took place.

[2:13:20] We were both active members in the community of Del Rey.

[2:13:24] We attend church there.

[2:13:25] There's a men's home that we're a part of.

[2:13:30] We have lived in Del Rey.

[2:13:42] I am in the ag industry.

[2:13:43] I go that intersection on a daily basis.

[2:13:43] It's like day.

[2:13:44] Since the 70s, I've been in this of the valley my whole life.

[2:13:49] Since the 70s, there's been numerous accidents there.

[2:13:55] I know personally three that have been fatalities.

[2:13:57] Unfortunately, that affected lives being one of them.

[2:13:59] When this took place, we started to become active,

[2:14:10] trying to signatures and take the steps

[2:14:12] to see if could get something done about the intersection.

[2:14:12] And a member of the community, I've

[2:14:13] spoken to many people in Delray in the city.

[2:14:25] I've never spoken to anybody in that city

[2:14:27] that hasn't said that they would love to see a four-way stop.

[2:14:37] Being in the ag industry, I realized

[2:14:38] that pom Wonderful has a lot of trucks that are going through.

[2:14:38] I know that a lot of times it's about the dollar, how much can

[2:14:38] be moved on a daily basis.

[2:14:38] I send trucks out all the time.

[2:14:40] But in the ag industry, we never put life above the dollar.

[2:14:44] We always look out for the best of our employees,

[2:14:46] the people that work around us.

[2:14:55] I look at it from that aspect as far as the ag industry goes.

[2:14:59] Above that, I don't want anybody to have to go through this.

[2:15:01] I don't want anybody else to have to lose a loved one

[2:15:04] or have to deal with the repercussions of it.

[2:15:07] My wife was trying to get across that--

[2:15:12] I'll end there.

[2:15:26] >> Thank you.

[2:15:34] >> good morning board of supervisors.

[2:15:35] This is Leticia.

[2:15:35] I am a staff attorney with California Rural Legal

[2:15:35] Assistance.

[2:15:36] I am providing a public comment on behalf of residents of Del

[2:15:39] Rey to request that Fresno County install a four way stop

[2:15:42] on American and Del Rey Avenue pursuant to the county ordinance

[2:15:45] 11.04.020, which allows the Board of Supervisors

[2:15:49] to authorize the installation of a stop sign.

[2:15:51] The lack of a four way stop sign at the intersection

[2:15:54] has resulted in at least 21 pedestrian and traffic

[2:15:57] collisions in the last 12 years.

[2:15:58] These collisions have led to known fatalities,

[2:16:01] but despite this troubling history,

[2:16:03] there's currently only a two way stop sign at that intersection.

[2:16:06] In 2020, Fresno County determined

[2:16:09] that the intersection of Del Rey and American

[2:16:11] failed to meet the necessary criteria for the installation

[2:16:13] of the four way stop sign.

[2:16:15] Based on a 2020 Traffic engineering request.

[2:16:31] However, this request that Fresno latest decision on

[2:16:33] was unsupported as it was based on incomplete and outdated

[2:16:33] information.

[2:16:33] The installation of the four way stop at the intersection

[2:16:33] remains necessary to reduce the likelihood of collisions,

[2:16:34] therefore avoid fatalities or injuries.

[2:16:36] Additionally, the board should adopt the resolution

[2:16:39] to install the four way stop sign to align with the currently

[2:16:42] approved 2025 Del Rey Community Plan

[2:16:44] that emphasizes the county's commitment

[2:16:46] to improve traffic safety and being a part of bringing

[2:16:49] the community's vision to life.

[2:16:51] This request is made and pursuant to the County

[2:16:56] ordinance and documented history of the dangerous Intersection.

[2:17:00] We also submitted a public comment written,

[2:17:05] and it has signatures that Amanda was talking about.

[2:17:07] There is support in the community.

[2:17:08] Thank you so much.

[2:17:24] >> Thank you very much.

[2:17:26] Seeing no one else.

[2:17:29] >> We now move to item number 12.

[2:17:34] >> Item 11.

[2:17:35] Go ahead.

[2:17:43] >> Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

[2:17:46] My name is Jeff Roberts.

[2:17:46] I'm a consultant and I do planning entitlement work here

[2:17:46] in Fresno County.

[2:17:46] I'll be brief this morning.

[2:17:46] I'm here with Ben Ewell who will speak for a couple of minutes.

[2:17:46] We would like to ask for your help

[2:17:49] in providing direction to staff to work with us on a new idea up

[2:17:54] in the Millerton specific plan area.

[2:17:57] Very quick history.

[2:17:58] The specific plan was approved by the board in 1984

[2:18:02] there has been development that's occurred in the area.

[2:18:06] Infrastructure that's been installed.

[2:18:07] I can tell you that the area is not developing as fast or as big

[2:18:11] as was once envisioned.

[2:18:13] Things have changed up there.

[2:18:15] There's been some ownership changes that have occurred.

[2:18:18] There's been some rules and regulations

[2:18:20] that have occurred that didn't exist back in 84.

[2:18:23] So we'd like to ask for your staff's assistance

[2:18:26] to look at some possible additions to the area.

[2:18:32] Not the ones that would necessarily add count, traffic

[2:18:36] or environmental issues and haven't

[2:18:38] been looked at before, but possibly

[2:18:40] in a different location.

[2:18:41] I passed the handout that shows the specific plan area that's

[2:18:50] highlighted in a pink area.

[2:18:53] In the area in yellow that we're talking about, looking at

[2:18:57] is possible for the new development adjacent to the CSA

[2:19:01] and Millerton.

[2:19:02] We'd appreciate any help you can give us.

[2:19:05] Our goal is to develop a conceptual plan

[2:19:08] and come back to your board with a conceptual plan.

[2:19:11] We will have to file what are called Pre-applications

[2:19:14] with the county.

[2:19:15] That has not been done yet.

[2:19:17] We fully intend to do that.

[2:19:18] So when we do come back, we'll have

[2:19:21] a complete picture of what we would like the direction to be.

[2:19:24] And your staff will be fully informed.

[2:19:27] Appreciate the time to speak.

[2:19:29] Thank you.

[2:19:49] >> Good morning.

[2:19:50] Mr. Chairman and members of the board

[2:19:50] just want to make a quick mention on the project

[2:19:52] that Jeff Roberts just spoke to.

[2:20:01] Years ago, when this project was approved unanimously

[2:20:04] by the board we've obviously done a lot of work

[2:20:04] and a lot of things have been built and a lot of issues

[2:20:04] have come and gone.

[2:20:04] A lot of people have come and gone.

[2:20:06] I'm kind of sitting here.

[2:20:10] But I do recall, a hearing when it was approved unanimously.

[2:20:19] Supervisor Aaron Collegiate, one of your predecessors

[2:20:21] leaned over up there and said, I'm going to give this to you

[2:20:29] and unanimous approval here you got a promise one thing.

[2:20:31] Stick it out and see it through and don't mess it up.

[2:20:31] That's kind of why I'm here and would

[2:20:31] like to continue to keep my promise of what I said that day.

[2:20:33] Thank you.

[2:20:40] >> Thank you.

[2:20:46] Anyone else?

[2:20:51] We will now close that and move to the next item

[2:20:53] >> We now move to item 12, County Council reports from

[2:20:53] previous closed sessions.

[2:20:54] >> There are no reports from prior closed sessions.

[2:20:59] However, I would expect a report after today's closed session.

[2:21:02] I want to wait to vote to.

[2:21:03] >> We are now going to closed session.

[2:21:18] [Meeting entered closed session]

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