[0:00] All right, this meeting is now called to order. Reporting in progress. Please bow you here for moment sounds.

[0:19] Even. Please stand for pledge of allegiance.

[0:38] All

[0:42] right, do you have an amendments to the agenda?

[0:45] Thank you, Chairman.

[0:46] Uh, we have a couple of, uh, we'll be adding 11D and pulling 11A.

[0:59] All right, do we have anything else?

[1:03] I have a Muslim flow.

[1:06] Thank you.

[1:07] A motion to approve.

[1:09] The second of him's eye.

[1:11] I want to pose.

[1:14] Next, we are

[1:20] six of what presentation appears.

[1:24] So she had an incident, so she's unable to make it.

[1:30] I told her we won't.

[1:31] She's 100 years old, so whenever she can get here, we'll just get her here.

[1:36] That's something she wants to receive in public.

[1:38] That's something she wants to receive.

[1:40] that we need to go to her.

[1:42] All right.

[1:43] And my heart, thank you.

[1:45] I'm not opposed to her.

[1:47] Let's figure it out.

[1:48] All right.

[1:49] Next, we have a consent,

[1:56] the remote program, the motion,

[1:58] the second, all the previous time, and one of the polls.

[2:02] All right, five or both.

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[3:33] And do we have any, we don't have any, okay, all right, next public hearing,

[3:47] no public hearings,

[3:49] 11 A, I don't know if I'm sorry, 11 B.

[3:52] Thank you, Chair.

[3:54] This is John Aiden, who sees board of public to accept the insurance committee's recommendation.

[3:59] So the main is the current healthcare plan, capital selection of the capital health plan, and for the

[4:04] in the soil by the employer, the employer of soil if this year 3.5%.

[4:17] I thought the bull was interested in building this out.

[4:24] That's what affect time frame we're there.

[4:28] I understand this is what their saying is.

[4:31] It's for a role in order to go out that we need to make a decision on what we're going to do.

[4:39] Mr. Green.

[4:40] I think you I was under that impression as well so when did the decision become so

[4:45] where we were just going to go ahead and stay for what we have opposed to doing to be

[4:49] at the end of it.

[4:53] Well I think at some point you might as you guys think you might.

[5:01] Well, while back, we were discussing the possibility of bidding the insurance out this year, but we never came to conclusion and do that. So, the committee may have been meeting, I think, met on the number of occasions, and this is the recommendation.

[5:16] And do we know when we move forward, we're even, because we can start now, even if we let go on forward, we need to go ahead and start for the next cycle, we can be prepared, so opposed the way into the last minute.

[5:30] I think we're in good shape. I think Mrs. Robertson, I saw her earlier. She talked to me about it.

[5:36] I think we're in good shape in terms of the decision tonight. Is that right?

[5:39] That's right, Mr. Robertson.

[5:42] No, making a decision tonight.

[5:44] I know that we're making a decision based on what we see.

[5:46] But I'm saying going forward with the other bed and out.

[5:49] Just sharpen around this, not wait until the next time.

[5:54] The next go round as well.

[5:54] Yeah, right. We discussed it a while back when we never came to inclusion about it.

[5:59] came in and direct us in terms of what we need to do in terms of getting it out.

[6:04] So we just got loaded along to the committee picked it up.

[6:06] We should hold it a little lower.

[6:08] Mr. Green, are you making both of those in a form of emotion?

[6:12] If I need to absolutely, so I'll move that.

[6:15] We go ahead and start shopping around a bit and out for the health insurance rates.

[6:23] Next year, next year.

[6:25] Yes, I would second that.

[6:26] I have a question.

[6:27] So, what this right here is, there's a time frame on it, don't you?

[6:33] Well, what, how was that?

[6:35] Oh, I'm going to be my question.

[6:38] Yeah, Mr. Tom, is my time frame?

[6:41] Yeah, I'm going to let Ms. Robinson speak to that question.

[6:44] How do you want that to be?

[6:45] Call the question.

[6:47] Call the question.

[6:48] No, all the, about next year,

[6:50] I had nothing to do with this one.

[6:52] No, in effect, we have to go with this.

[6:55] Yeah.

[6:55] But

[6:57] Motion for next year and I say I can that oh for nature. Okay, for next year. Yes, yes, yes

[7:02] It doesn't got any do this. No, no, it's okay. Okay, most okay, all of your side

[7:08] And want to pose

[7:10] Now can we have a little vote on the cell light and just no

[7:15] That's good

[7:25] Is there's a deadline time line? Yes, we have a deadline for payroll

[7:32] Which the

[7:34] The deductions have to start these things like that.

[7:37] Okay, and not over.

[7:40] Okay, I'll just, I'll just curious.

[7:43] Mr. Chairman.

[7:45] Yes, you were asking the same question.

[7:46] I was asking.

[7:47] I know that they had no one to start.

[7:49] I'll then share a couple of looking at October 1st.

[7:52] To have the deadline.

[7:53] But I'm more impressed that you came to the microphone.

[7:56] I thought we can speak to employees Mr. Administrator.

[7:59] I have several other questions that I would like to ask.

[8:03] but not about that, I would like to ask about that, be it process.

[8:07] But I'm in favor of a school in moving this forward.

[8:10] Okay.

[8:10] I'm just going to prove that emotion.

[8:12] Yes, let's move.

[8:13] Second.

[8:13] I'm also the second.

[8:14] Which green got a question?

[8:15] About that we can vote and I'll make my comment.

[8:19] All right.

[8:20] What's we vote on?

[8:21] We finished.

[8:22] All five of that.

[8:22] No, no.

[8:23] That's five of that.

[8:25] What's the second?

[8:26] All the people side?

[8:27] All right.

[8:28] You want to pose?

[8:30] All right, five of all vote?

[8:31] Okay.

[8:31] my question is not about anything on there I just want to because I have a comment at the end

[8:36] that we require HR to be present so I was hoping that you're going to be here until the end

[8:41] that's all with not somebody from HR but I do have some questions. I guess I apologize but

[8:47] did not to that point or are you done yes for your motion I just I don't know that you guys

[8:52] clarified on page two of eight there are several options I think there was a motion to approve

[8:57] to approve the one that we already have.

[8:59] So, let's make an option.

[9:02] I think you just have to do it for the back of the shirt.

[9:04] Make a move.

[9:04] Okay.

[9:05] What's recommendation?

[9:06] So, committee recommended.

[9:07] Yeah.

[9:08] I'm moving forward.

[9:09] Option one.

[9:10] I seconded again.

[9:11] Okay.

[9:12] Do we have rescind the one that we made earlier?

[9:15] No, because we didn't state what it was.

[9:16] I think the commissioner hopes you make a mandatory motion.

[9:19] All right.

[9:20] I just did.

[9:21] I would accept that.

[9:22] I'm going to make sure.

[9:23] Commissioner would accept that amendment to the motion and no one seeks to change their vote and so the motion now stands corrected in a minute

[9:29] Madam clerk

[9:32] Okay, anyone opposed

[9:35] But I motion second all the papers are yeah, I want to post all right

[9:42] Next

[9:44] 11c

[9:44] Let's see things chairman

[9:46] This July, I'm six-border, put with the renew the Motorola maintenance and support agreement

[9:50] on the Motorola radio system that supports low-in-force management, emergency services and gas in Canada.

[9:56] This agreement is a three-year renewal term.

[10:00] I'm October 1st, 26th, September 30, 2020, 9th, renewal provides the same level of maintenance that is currently in place.

[10:10] The mention, of course, I just got a question though.

[10:16] is in a way possible that we can't bear this out.

[10:20] I know we've been having, every other month we have always

[10:25] improvements for Motorola or this city.

[10:28] So it's in a way possible we can bear this out, so we can get.

[10:32] I'm better than here.

[10:34] Maybe it's seals out there, that option's out there,

[10:37] because we're paying for services that come to the board.

[10:43] I'm going to say every six months.

[10:44] Are you talking about for next year?

[10:46] All, yes, okay.

[10:49] Is it what's this through your dear before?

[10:51] That's something we need to be at this, I like it.

[10:53] It's up to you, it's up for the new, we know it all now.

[10:56] Yeah, please hope.

[10:58] Yes, since we are going to be, we're going to have to approve it now,

[11:03] because you're going to have to have more equipment

[11:05] if you're going to have a new company.

[11:07] You're going to have to have new installation of equipment.

[11:09] It's got to be compatible to whoever you're corresponding with.

[11:12] So we do a motor all of them, but they're in the cities without the habit.

[11:16] Police departments would have the habit.

[11:18] Chairs department and all those.

[11:21] So it's going to take a minute.

[11:22] It'll take a minute to do all that.

[11:24] Billions.

[11:26] Well, but we pay millions in a way.

[11:28] I'm just in my home opinion, because every year we pay

[11:34] $800,000 or $600,000.

[11:37] Right.

[11:38] I didn't have a problem with that.

[11:39] I'm just saying it takes a minute to do that.

[11:42] work and get that research done. And we've been through this, I think, if I

[11:45] remember, I was in twice that I didn't remember, but it doesn't hurt to go

[11:50] through it and look at it and see.

[11:52] The most role was, I think, to be more than everyone else, the last bit, we still

[11:59] get in the bid. And that's, that was through me, I'll speak if you like.

[12:05] If I make a mention on the reason why there's an issue with the

[12:09] Motorola. In pass, leadership, it took a while for Motorola to the actual project to move

[12:17] underway. So we're currently using older equipment in having another company deal with

[12:25] older equipment that's specifically for Motorola may not be in our best interest.

[12:31] And for the transition that happened, we would have to completely overhaul the entire system.

[12:36] that would mean the municipalities, the police department, fire,

[12:43] EMS, so doing so would take a lot of planning.

[12:48] So I understand what you're saying and it's much

[12:50] necessary, much needed, because it would enable us

[12:53] to communicate directly with our neighboring entities.

[12:58] As it stands now, it has to be passed over.

[13:01] So what you're saying is exactly what we need to do,

[13:03] But in order to get there, we need to have this,

[13:08] but the existing equipment taken care of until we get to a position to where we can put it out for being.

[13:15] Because the thing is that,

[13:18] I had some hard burns when I bought it, we voted for this.

[13:21] I think I voted against it.

[13:23] Yes, sir.

[13:24] I think those last, I mean, those ranked the highs,

[13:28] I'm making all the money.

[13:31] I'm making all the two hired there.

[13:32] One else.

[13:33] Then every year we look back and look at every year

[13:36] they're asking for $600,800,000.

[13:40] So we all just that we spent a lot of money.

[13:43] I miss their money.

[13:44] Like we pass this now.

[13:47] 70 months from now.

[13:48] We'll be coming back again.

[13:50] That's another $400,000 to, I'm sorry,

[13:52] $600,000 to the purpose of their equipment.

[13:55] So I'm not sure that's something I think we need to talk about, but if you don't want to vote for it,

[14:03] I think we need to talk about this for future.

[14:07] So we lose a lot of money.

[14:09] If they could team the same pattern.

[14:11] Just to give us some background, we've had multiple lightning strikes in midway.

[14:17] And so the maintenance contract is what got people on the ground to get it where we're going.

[14:22] So I'm in complete agreement with we need to transition into something different, but as it stands, we need this existing contract to be to hold to get us to where we can get into opposition to put it out for being moving forward.

[14:37] How can we have that conversation though?

[14:40] Start it because you understand we start having this conversation with the board the week.

[14:46] Yeah, so we can have this conversation because we pan like six seven without you.

[14:49] you're just first. I'm not trying to be a bad guy. I'm just, no, no, all of you. And I completely understand

[14:56] but as it stands, we support the entire county. Yeah.

[15:01] So, one comment as well with our protection would not be in the best interest of the board or the citizens.

[15:07] Okay. All right. Well, Commissioner, I hope, yeah, I'm going to wish the rules first, sir.

[15:13] So, somebody will hear first.

[15:14] Oh, they just haven't had a hand in.

[15:15] It was symptoms.

[15:17] So, I see that it is a, it's a three-year term. Do we have an option like if we were to actually begin the process of purchasing whatever necessary.

[15:28] equipment we have we need or you know to actually prepare to try to make a

[15:33] transition let's say that we begin doing that. Are we able to is this an

[15:39] agreement that we're able to terminate prior to the three years or are we

[15:43] stuck in it for the three years? I don't have that information. I'll have to. Mr. Chair.

[15:49] Yes sir. On page 10 of 8 it delineates that if a customer terminates a

[15:53] disagreement before the end of the term for any reason other than motor railroad

[15:56] default, the customer will pay them a road, Motorola, and early termination fee equals to the

[16:01] discount applied to the last three years as service payments for the original term.

[16:06] So essentially, you're going to have a, you're going to have a balloon payment.

[16:10] And one thing I was going to know, again, I understand they need to approve this, but I just

[16:13] do know for the record that most of your contracts have an appropriation clause, which means

[16:17] that to the extent you guys make an amendment to the budget, you don't appropriate funds

[16:20] because of budget constraints, then that gives you a separate reason to exit.

[16:25] And that's not almost all of your agreements that it comes across my desk.

[16:28] This agreement doesn't and what my research suggests is that the Motorola agreements generally

[16:33] don't.

[16:34] So it's not just for what I can find.

[16:37] It's unfortunate, but just the reality of the agreement, you're signing that it's not

[16:39] there's not appropriation clause.

[16:41] Even if you don't appropriate money to this line item next year, it will still be due to it.

[16:45] everybody can find me if that proved and this deal will be there do we have the

[16:53] proven tonight or it's a criminal statement is do I think September first

[16:58] okay I'm

[17:02] just curious that's all it's necessary for us to transition to

[17:10] nor equipment but the cost is the monumental cost maybe that bomb might have

[17:18] Maybe that can happen.

[17:22] This is a big hit though.

[17:26] That's my humble thing, sir.

[17:28] But I'll commit to hope.

[17:29] Yes.

[17:30] Thank you.

[17:31] I'm from the day of that we could not communicate

[17:33] among the different groups.

[17:35] So we had ambulances that were going

[17:37] in the wrong direction.

[17:38] We had five trucks that were not going

[17:40] in the right direction.

[17:41] We can't sit as couldn't communicate.

[17:43] They couldn't communicate in law enforcement

[17:45] and it could have had different systems.

[17:48] We were going to have to, I think, try to keep this,

[17:51] but I would like to put it in the story.

[17:53] If you guys let us know that calls is not in there

[17:57] and then that's something that may have been able

[17:59] to be discussed before tonight.

[18:03] But before we had other bidders and those bidders

[18:06] didn't come close to the service system

[18:09] that we were looking for at the time.

[18:11] And that was trying to pull everyone together.

[18:13] So that's what we did. And I forgot in the name of the other contractor. But that contractor

[18:19] wasn't too far. They just didn't give all the services that we needed to pull the whole

[18:23] county together. Is there any funding that you can think of in technology that we could

[18:29] apply for is that do you do have a grant right on board?

[18:33] The county's on news. I think there was money from the BP spill. But because we are so far removed

[18:40] You're like, I'm getting money from that.

[18:43] And that's what I think may more call up other than the past.

[18:48] There's a, yeah, I know that's around the gulf.

[18:51] But the technology section may be able to do something.

[18:57] If we're looking at, you're looking at doing a lobbyist.

[19:01] I felt a lobbyist again.

[19:02] I hate the laws.

[19:03] I've gotten out from that a lot of pool.

[19:05] But if we could get, if you're going to get a lobbyist pick up a lobbyist anyway.

[19:10] Uh, you may be able to get something out of technology and stay away from those power points.

[19:15] What do you call them?

[19:18] Madison.

[19:19] Stay away from those, but there has to be some one out there for technology.

[19:24] But if we can look at it.

[19:25] Thank you.

[19:26] If it would potentially be a legislator for already.

[19:29] Of course.

[19:30] If you're not going to be able to talk to anybody.

[19:32] Uh, which, which I, I guess I ran radio assistant for almost 20 years.

[19:37] And Motorola is like so prepared and number one don't beat them.

[19:43] And it's very difficult to go away from them.

[19:47] Because they're the standard that really are.

[19:51] And that maintenance contract has paid its due for several times.

[19:58] And it looks high.

[20:00] There's been several times they've had to spend a lot of money in the middle of the night when

[20:04] we went down. And so, in saying that, we are facing to go to a whole different digital platform

[20:13] in a very near future to where you'll be able to visually see things on your radio, where

[20:19] you'll be able to, I mean, the technology is fixing it. And that's kind of what it's telling us is

[20:24] getting out of these things and jumping through the roof with this stuff.

[20:28] And so, the three years concerns me, not so much with Motorola, but the fact that I know

[20:37] Motorola probably will be the provider for the new technology.

[20:42] And most of the people in our region use Motorola.

[20:46] And so, I do think it's a appropriation, and that's what some of the other entities have

[20:53] on and even some of them have used now one money in the past.

[20:58] But I know there's been conversation, and I'd like to hear what the sheriff's

[21:04] office and the local entities have because once you move, as Commissioner Holt said,

[21:10] they have to move with you, they're dependent, they're, and so we're big brother.

[21:17] So whatever decision you make affects everybody.

[21:20] And at this old point, commission was,

[21:24] I'm glad you've sang that, so people would know

[21:26] that we partnered with the small counties.

[21:28] Small cities.

[21:29] Oh yeah, we didn't want to did everything for them.

[21:32] Yeah, and I, I know they brought them, I think,

[21:34] Amanda was the latest, right?

[21:36] Yes, sir.

[21:37] Now, at least at O2, on the Florida State Hospital,

[21:40] most of the communication in the county

[21:43] have run through the Rolla and those hours

[21:46] we have around the county.

[21:47] So, I think if we're going to transition to something, it would be along those same lines,

[21:54] but maybe just have the attorney put eyes on that contract.

[22:00] So it's more, it favors the board more, more and more.

[22:05] Yes, sir.

[22:05] If my thing is, if I'm going to give him $7 or $5, I'd like to see him.

[22:11] I mean, that's not like, it's a 20, you know, and the where we can have the conversation

[22:16] and I'm hoping Mr. Administrator that in the morning we have conversation with the sheriff and

[22:23] communications to figure out, are we taking the route that them the fire departments and

[22:28] NMS and the city or are they all good that we're going on a same path as there are problems?

[22:36] And is this something that we can table for two weeks?

[22:39] in our end to the 30th.

[22:41] I don't think.

[22:42] Can we keep it this?

[22:43] It is on the 30th.

[22:44] 30th of September.

[22:46] One second.

[22:49] We just want to make sure we're doing the right thing.

[22:52] Yeah, your agreement.

[22:53] Yes.

[22:53] It's on September.

[22:54] That's Commissioner Simcos.

[22:55] No, you're agreement hands-on.

[22:56] Which is on page 11C.

[22:57] The third.

[22:58] Get the agenda page.

[22:59] It runs to October 1.

[23:01] That's not good.

[23:02] It's on October 40th.

[23:03] Yes, I'll put it one.

[23:04] But it's out.

[23:06] It is September 30th.

[23:11] So what I'd be remiss if we table this to the next meeting to get the players in the room?

[23:17] I think it's at least on a call on the visual or something.

[23:20] They can't come.

[23:21] I don't know, but yes.

[23:23] What's your thing?

[23:24] Just speaking with Rose as some added information,

[23:29] they initially had a five-year agreement.

[23:31] And because of the potential cuts moving forward,

[23:34] we were able to push them down to a three-year agreement.

[23:39] I don't want them to feel like we want to get rid of, we need to get rid of, we need to

[23:43] get rid of, we need to get rid of, we need to get rid of, and I think that's the conversation

[23:45] where them is like, help us, help us understand what we say to us, the math math.

[23:51] I think it would be prudent if we had an additional conversation, so if we agree the funds

[23:59] that are that would be generated or spent if we transition to a new system, those funds

[24:09] could be allocated and incorporated into that agreement.

[24:12] There you go.

[24:13] I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, we table this.

[24:16] Okay.

[24:16] Wonderful.

[24:17] And tables.

[24:19] Next.

[24:20] With, with what, excuse me, Mr.

[24:23] able, with, uh, Kimber, which it would be, uh,

[24:27] we should be asking if we transition, if we

[24:29] the commitment for these next three years. If we transition to a new system or the opportunity

[24:36] to purchase a new system appears, we would be able to take those funds to incorporate into

[24:42] that new contract. Right. Losing any funds on that. Okay. Okay, you're sorry, but you just talk

[24:49] about incorporating them over into a new contract with Motorola. Yes, well. Okay, but that was on

[24:54] state because you've seen a new contract and we had already been talking about possibly looking

[24:58] some others. Yeah, we need to clarify.

[25:00] The other thing is, if we're going to do this, and we're going to look at it, then it may even if they would be going to prove it with that stipulation.

[25:13] The other thing is, if they can send us some information on where they're looking at going in the future, because if there's a short turnaround, we need to know some information on that technology and how it would affect us in six cities in the fire in the police and the sheriff's office and all that.

[25:29] We just need some communication from them.

[25:31] They can say that by email.

[25:32] Yes, ma'am.

[25:33] I'm sorry.

[25:34] Also, one thing that we've been trying to do

[25:36] is incorporate this school board.

[25:39] During emergencies, they are our transportation out.

[25:42] And for them being on a separate system,

[25:45] could potentially call the problem.

[25:46] May I miss you?

[25:47] Well, they will.

[25:49] Who are they with?

[25:50] They're not.

[25:51] They're for system.

[25:51] I know a who, with who?

[25:53] I think they're just using local radios,

[25:55] like Walmart radios.

[25:56] They're not making the expenditure.

[25:58] Yeah.

[25:58] So I personally have had to give them radios.

[26:03] Yeah, but I was about to say that that really doesn't make sense for the members, and not with that many children.

[26:08] And that may open up an opportunity for a decent funding source if we were to transition through a holistic change.

[26:15] And it's a good lobbying aspect.

[26:17] Yes.

[26:17] Because you include those children into your numbers.

[26:21] I appreciate your call question.

[26:24] We're moved to table this next thank you commission. Oh, yeah, thank you. Thank you for everything

[26:31] Table is to next meeting

[26:34] Oh, we didn't take the vote. We better motion. We didn't take the vote. I know commission was tape one asked for table

[26:43] You second right, so we don't get it. Okay, so

[26:47] So, we've taken this to the next meeting.

[26:51] I'll be right.

[26:52] I'll be right.

[26:53] I call the question early.

[26:56] I think they're the main character in the motion.

[26:58] How'd you do?

[26:59] I think they would.

[27:01] Would make it.

[27:03] I'll be right.

[27:04] I'll be right.

[27:04] Then what I say would.

[27:06] You call it a question, right?

[27:08] Yes.

[27:08] It's a word called a question.

[27:10] It's a word.

[27:10] All the questions I say, let's go to vote for that one.

[27:14] But I guess the confusion was that we didn't know whether or not you'd be the second

[27:19] Which did yeah, right all the people side I didn't want to pose. I'll write it five or four

[27:27] Thank you very much

[27:31] 11 D

[27:32] Thanks, Chairman

[27:33] This is your night. I'm seeks a board of approval to the issue. I notice the tent to a war

[27:37] Notice of award and negotiate contracts with the top scoring proposal.

[27:41] The response to RAP26-SHO8 professional lobbying services for the federal government affairs.

[27:50] The evaluation team is recommending continental strategy of the award.

[27:56] I hear we'll move a blue section.

[28:00] I have a question.

[28:02] Do I have a question?

[28:03] How well have they known?

[28:08] I don't know how well they know, but I just know that they were two that bid it for this one or two.

[28:15] Okay, but how well they know?

[28:17] It was three.

[28:18] It was three.

[28:20] So we had three bidders.

[28:21] I think that.

[28:22] I guess I would caveat.

[28:24] I'm speaking in dual capacity for the record.

[28:26] One, I was on the scoring committee, which I could go to.

[28:29] And also as the interim county attorney.

[28:32] But, Constance was gratitude for my perspective had the most local performance, which means

[28:39] to bring a dollar saying to Gaston County.

[28:41] I believe that their bid suggested there was a $50 plus million dollars brought into

[28:46] Gaston County.

[28:48] I think the others were very well at a lot of experience, but I don't think they had as much

[28:53] local experience and as much Florida experience.

[28:56] So, those were two separate values.

[28:57] Okay, but I was just asking, and I,

[29:03] what's the record look like overall for the company itself?

[29:07] Because if we're looking at some of these contracts

[29:10] of going after some funding in certain areas,

[29:13] what would be there?

[29:15] They're record in those areas.

[29:18] On the federal level, if you're looking at,

[29:21] let's just say on economic development,

[29:24] and look at 267,

[29:25] out is their record and going out for infrastructure money money so what's their

[29:31] record on some of the things that we've been talking about getting done I'm not

[29:35] saying that you have the answer that I'm just saying when you compare in the three

[29:38] companies you could all be great and they could all be wrong for us so what

[29:43] that's why it's what their record looked like instead of the amount of money

[29:47] in the areas of success.

[29:52] That's what I'm not going to tell.

[29:58] Because we know we need economic development.

[30:00] We've got those, set that 27-year US-90, ITN, railroad, get all those in, and so those are the things I'm asking about, but that's it. We can move on.

[30:12] Oh, you've already motioned.

[30:16] Can we simply?

[30:18] No, I forgot it was already a motion.

[30:20] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[30:29] And I will motion in a second all the way to the side, in one of the polls.

[30:37] All right.

[30:37] I'll probably throw

[30:43] three phones off.

[30:47] All right.

[30:50] I'm a busy day today.

[30:51] Next we have 11.

[30:56] I'm Chairman.

[30:59] I can't wait to go through it.

[31:02] You've just come before you before.

[31:03] It's an order to deal with agreement, the rental of the properties that we have, and what we like to

[31:12] for food was that we didn't have an amount, so the amounts have been surged at 375 or half a day,

[31:18] 7.54 a day.

[31:22] Now, do you want to have that burden on it, Mr. Turner?

[31:25] Sorry, I think we would have this policy.

[31:27] I walked you guys through it during a, probably a month or half or two months ago.

[31:31] You guys made several recommendations.

[31:32] I incorporated those recommendations and made corrections.

[31:36] I think Commissioner Hope noted deficiencies in typos that I went back and corrected.

[31:41] And so, and obviously the strict more stringent terms around alcohol requiring explicit approval.

[31:48] A amounts was a big deal.

[31:51] We use the amounts that three, like the administrator just said, 375 for half a day, 750

[31:57] or a full day.

[31:59] It leaves discretion for the county administrator, but requires that you guys be notified at the proceeding meeting regarding any discounts or special exemptions made for any nonprofit or similarly situated organizations.

[32:11] It requires that the county be listed as a separate as an additional insured for any event.

[32:17] It requires that any event that's going to have more than 75 people be classified as a special event.

[32:21] requires that the special events that the application come at least 60 days prior to the

[32:27] special event. Any event requires a insurance, but for 75 or more people, there's additional

[32:34] liability concerns, and it requires a site plan letting us know what are your RDW105 security

[32:39] present. Do you intend to have food present? It requires that vendors get permission because vendors

[32:44] bring additional liability. So if there's going to be a professional food vendor, then that

[32:48] to be noticed in the application also, so that the county can ensure that the vendor has

[32:53] the appropriate insurance, so that your insurance is not required.

[32:58] It contains an application,

[33:01] also, I apologize, 75 or more people is 30 days, 300 people

[33:06] is 60 days.

[33:07] In terms of additional notice, it also contains a deposit, which means that, you know, for

[33:13] of staff and security purposes, which existed before, it contains provisions for refunds in

[33:20] case of an emergency, it contains prohibited conduct,

[33:29] it's sought to be comprehensive, it explicitly

[33:30] defines what the, what authority administrator does and does not have pursuant to this

[33:35] ordinance.

[33:39] So, I guess what I mean, if you're not in question, I'll take any questions on it if they

[33:42] are in it or defer to the board.

[33:44] commission was. So you're talking about the rental fees. Is that a hard building or is that a park?

[33:55] So right now this policy doesn't delineate between building a park. I think that right now it has one

[34:01] uniform B based on the numbers I was given. So I'm gonna steal from Commissioner Hope. There's a lot of money.

[34:10] I mean, I'm just sitting here and I'm thinking about, you know, saw to us part by the heel

[34:18] part, my two part was, that's a lot of money for somebody to have an outside, now if it's

[34:26] the will board, I would like to change and differentiate between the two.

[34:35] I just think that we're pushing our parks away from the formality of people using them for

[34:47] family unions and things of that nature and it's not like you're going into Stephen's

[34:53] or Chattagooch here at the St.U. Center.

[34:58] It's so.

[34:58] It's just a meal.

[34:59] Kiss.

[35:02] I think that I will be supporting that we don't charge anything for a part, because we want to encourage people to be outside.

[35:12] I think the only rebuttal I would have to you on that is if this merely a $50, it gives that person the right, because you have people that are called and just get the park.

[35:23] But, and so if you get $50, that is not unreasonable to me.

[35:30] And then the buildings.

[35:31] The reason why I said that, because we have a personal style,

[35:36] that if they want to use the park, they got the sign in.

[35:39] And they put a letter on the park,

[35:43] they stated that someone going to use the park at the time.

[35:48] So there's never been, I mean, I haven't had too many confusions about

[35:51] about using a part. Everybody's on point. That's just my humble piece. And to segue into the building,

[36:05] I understand the $750. But I don't agree with it. I think I want to. Yeah, and my thing is, is I think that the security deposit should be much higher.

[36:19] And where you know that you're going to have to pay if you tear up our nice buildings.

[36:27] And so when I look at these seniors who use that senior center, it almost pushes them out.

[36:35] And so if you had somebody who's an active member and they're having an event there,

[36:41] We're basically said, you're going to pay 375 or 750 dollars, just thought, thank you.

[36:51] Commissioner Green.

[36:52] Thank you.

[36:52] And that was definitely one of my concerns as well.

[36:54] But I think that that's when you have that application process.

[36:57] And then that's when those substance should be made,

[37:02] especially if it's an active member of the senior citizen service.

[37:06] Because you do know that oftentimes they're going to celebrate those milestones,

[37:10] work phase, like 80, 75, 95, 100, and I can't see a chart, especially if they're there weekly.

[37:18] So those are the questions that the management manager will probably have to take in consideration

[37:25] as it relates to our senior citizens who are actively involved in the center.

[37:31] Secondly, we do need to have some time differentiation as it relates to what's considered

[37:36] I didn't see it in there, was considered as a whole day, was considered as a half-day, so that

[37:44] that can be a little bit more explainable time-frame-wise.

[37:49] Thank you.

[37:51] Okay.

[37:53] Commissioner Simkins.

[37:55] As it relates to the, we're talking about the parks.

[38:00] I don't think that, you know, we should actually charge for the park itself now, where there are

[38:08] civilians and those civilians are being used and they will be utilized.

[38:16] They're observing and you want it specifically for yourself, then I think that there needs

[38:21] to be a fee and that's not unusual for counties to charge for the, for you to reserve

[38:55] uh, um, um,

[38:56] buildings are used outside of the normal business hours, and most of the time they're having to be paid over time.

[39:07] So I think that those fees need to equate to what those, what those chart, what that would be, what that cost will be.

[39:19] For us, I think when we're talking about the half day and full day is when you have to have access to the building, the entire day, that's considered a full day rental, a half day rental is, you know, sometimes you have organizations that have a morning event and they're out of there, they come in at eight and they're out of there about 12 or one o'clock, that's a half day event.

[39:47] that you have someone having a big event and they are coming in and it's going to take

[39:51] those of my hours to decorate and that so they need access to the building and the entire

[39:55] day because then that makes it unavailable for someone else that may just need that they have.

[40:02] So, I think that would be considered a full day, but I think we do need to take a look at this staffing fee, and it may need to be based on the half of date, not just a blank at $100, but based on the time, because that staff has to come in there, open the bill, then possibly, and I don't know if we're deciding if staff has to remain there, or if they don't, then they have to come back in.

[40:27] And so we have to take all of those, take that into consideration to understand the half

[40:36] and the four, we still need to give some time leeways because there's used to have people

[40:42] feel past four o'clock and they say well that's a half day or a past five o'clock because

[40:47] that's a half day.

[40:48] So I think they do still need to be some, even though you may go over and give a tape, we're

[40:54] especially if there's nothing that's going on.

[40:56] I don't see what I'm saying.

[40:57] Oh, you got 30 minutes, you know,

[40:59] you can extend it for an hour or so,

[41:00] but just something I'm afraid of.

[41:02] And I apologize.

[41:03] What is the latest that they can use

[41:05] to special to at night time?

[41:07] Because do you want them to use it

[41:09] two or three o'clock in the morning or over your right?

[41:12] That means to be honest.

[41:14] Or you want to eat it at a 12, but you're in a 10.

[41:17] Dark?

[41:18] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[41:21] I mean, you keep down live bills and probably 10 o'clock, Pavel.

[41:28] I mean, I miss the chairman.

[41:32] May I miss the chairman?

[41:34] Because I want to encourage people to use the private vendors too as well.

[41:37] That's what the commissioner.

[41:39] Yes, I think it'll be.

[41:41] If we look at the hours and then do a cleanup fee,

[41:44] I think that'll make a lot different.

[41:46] If you do for eight hours or 500 or hours for 250,

[41:50] Clean up fee would be 102 to 50 and that way that because they've got to come back and clean up

[41:56] I mean they've got to come back

[41:58] You got your house keeping people having to come back in and so why not have it based on that that if

[42:04] 500 for eight hours

[42:07] 250 for four hours

[42:08] But either way the staff has to go in and so there's a fee for the staff coming in even better no matter whether it's eight or four because they're going to have to be on their time off

[42:17] So 500 plus that 500 plus they got to come back in.

[42:21] And so I've said maybe 100, 200, 250,

[42:25] decide on that amount.

[42:26] And does another thing also, they're going to have

[42:28] we need to have liability insurance in that.

[42:31] So that needs to be covered because if somebody gets hurt,

[42:34] they're going to look right at the county.

[42:37] So those are some things we need to look at.

[42:39] If they're going to reserve the place.

[42:41] The other thing about it is with parks.

[42:44] Yeah, that should be a low fee.

[42:45] Because if my family is taking up the park,

[42:49] then the other people are not able to go and do maybe everything,

[42:52] they want to do it.

[42:52] Maybe it would have come to my family reunion or whatever.

[42:55] But I reserve the park and that takes some space at the park

[43:00] and parks really meant for everyone.

[43:02] So at least pay a hundred dollars if you're going to have an event

[43:05] in the park for a say.

[43:07] Now, what about the cleanup there and what about the liability?

[43:10] That's something that we're not looking at.

[43:11] and live built in Sheriffs, and it's like 125 to 150.

[43:16] But you don't want to be live up because we don't have a lot of whole lot of shade

[43:20] meetings, so y'all don't have a whole lot of shade meetings.

[43:23] If something happens, and you have a country.

[43:25] It is.

[43:26] Are you making a motion on the building?

[43:28] I don't have any buildings that we minor only parks in my district.

[43:33] So, are you still live up with us here at 9?

[43:34] No.

[43:35] So I'm going to agree to make it a form of emotion.

[43:41] I wasn't sure if you guys would.

[43:44] On the park.

[43:45] On the park.

[43:46] On the park.

[43:46] For hours.

[43:48] On the park.

[43:49] For his staffing.

[43:51] What is staffing?

[43:52] To come in and clean up.

[43:53] To 100.

[43:54] That's what you're saying.

[43:55] OK, now if the staff comes in and they come in and do the cleaner.

[43:59] Do you want the money for that's paid for the deposit to use the bill?

[44:03] going to stand to come out of that because I don't think it's you. Okay, so then then I put down

[44:08] a hundred, start no less than a hundred for them to come in. Now, the other thing is strange is that

[44:16] we have to have to go out and do this setup. That means they come and do chairs, tents and

[44:20] all that when they do even, even inside the building, they come and do a setup. And that's

[44:24] work. That's not just coming, standing at waiting for you to use the building. They got

[44:37] because they do a lot of work. If you have watched them when they're doing it, but

[44:40] anyway, five hundred for the eight hours, two, fifty for four hours, and then you

[44:45] got a clean up fee.

[44:47] What type of steps have to make twenty for hours now?

[44:50] Well, then that'll be only one person if it's four hours. If it takes them four hours

[44:53] to do it.

[44:53] What I'm talking about is you got to pay them time and half though.

[44:56] Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. And I don't mind it. I'm just saying we need to have the action.

[45:01] Because the other one said it is the other Friday night, it is doing all of it.

[45:06] The whole question, commissioner, is this in addition to the rent of fee?

[45:11] No, no, no, that's your total rent.

[45:12] Well, the clean up is always set.

[45:14] Well, no, the 500, you go back to the 500.

[45:17] 8 hours.

[45:20] So, you're scratching what the suggested 7-50 was?

[45:24] Right, I think that was too much. I said it was too much in the beginning.

[45:27] Okay, so in and then I do totally agree with the point this area and being in some of that business and prior

[45:37] But facilities ideas of blue steep honestly, but I do know that we do have four dollars ticket

[45:45] Well, well, well, the reason why the reason I've seen this is

[45:49] And if I apologize for interruptions, no, no, no, no, no, but you should, you're right.

[45:56] The going right now for, if you use a couple of facilities that are here that I know of,

[46:03] are about 70, but these are, they are, are more, and have been like 900, what I serve

[46:09] saying, meet them are 70, or more, but at the same time, these are what these people do for

[46:16] living, this is a business for them, this is not necessarily a business for us, this is facilities

[46:22] that belong to our entire county, all of our citizens, so we shouldn't be competitive

[46:29] with those people who do it for a living, we should make it as accessible as we can, but also

[46:35] still being able to get some profit from it, so don't misunderstand me when I say that, but these

[46:40] are buildings that are, you know, some of them are grant buildings, some of them are tax money,

[46:45] But they blow it on to our citizens as well.

[46:47] So I don't really want to get into that near $900 to $750.

[46:50] If we can make it a little bit more affordable, it works for me.

[46:54] And I'll do this as well, thank you.

[46:55] I want to finish right quick.

[46:57] If we can set it on the clean up and set it up,

[46:59] but we can settle on that.

[47:00] Now you can always come back and revisit this whole thing.

[47:02] Yeah, I think this is revisited.

[47:03] That way you only have to increase our decrease of what everyone will do.

[47:06] You want to do this?

[47:07] You think that set up fee at $150 or $200.

[47:11] $200.

[47:12] I'd be the clean-up set-up and everything.

[47:15] Mr. Lewis, so I'm going to clear a part of it up and make a motion for the parks,

[47:22] for being in a making motion that we rent them for $50 with a $100 deposit.

[47:29] Can I get a second?

[47:31] I'll second and back out of question.

[47:34] I'm just saying, I just want to clear a one part.

[47:37] Mr. Commissioner, Commissioner, the only reason

[47:41] and we didn't discuss a lot of bills here.

[47:44] Now, when you do a contract, now remember,

[47:46] we agree for them how those events that you have

[47:48] no liability insurance once you put it in black or white.

[47:51] You're liable.

[47:52] Mr. Chair?

[47:54] The current policy requires that there be

[47:55] a lot of billion insurance for every event

[47:57] in the county be listed as additional insured

[48:00] and that they provide a COI at the time

[48:02] that submit the application for the event.

[48:04] Right, I understand that, but what I'm saying though

[48:07] is we're in a public meeting, we have to let them know.

[48:09] Okay. That that that there have to have that liability insurance. I really think the park should be a hundred dollars.

[48:15] It's because because you're still talking about them having to come set up.

[48:19] We're going to move that same set up fee over at the park too because you're going to put up tents.

[48:24] You're going to put up chairs because we're not we're not putting up tits and chairs for them.

[48:27] It's up. Hold on. Just to mean that we we've been doing it.

[48:30] I mean, we talk about work. If someone having a family reunion, right?

[48:35] The board of Congress, how to put it on a tits and chairs for someone to have a family.

[48:39] That's just only the book tits and chairs of a commission in a house in an event, not a private

[48:45] citizen that decided they would have come to the park and do that, right?

[48:50] Okay.

[48:50] I'm just saying in general, right?

[48:52] Yeah, but we have been drawing both.

[48:55] So if we're saying just for that, then that makes sense.

[48:58] We're going to stick to that in that makes sense.

[49:00] but they're not going to speak to it.

[49:02] The people are saying, you let so I'm so used to dance,

[49:04] but you didn't let us use them.

[49:05] Here's how they're going to dance,

[49:06] because they know we're going to be in trouble with that.

[49:09] They're going to go and commit to it.

[49:12] But you know, let me just say this,

[49:13] the only reason why I'm going to vote against charge, right?

[49:17] Because I was in the conference when they were saying,

[49:19] they want to encourage people outside, more people go outside.

[49:23] And I just want to encourage you, right,

[49:25] to go outside.

[49:25] Well, if they go on a YouTube part,

[49:27] they'll be used to part.

[49:28] I think it's fun people don't too much use the park that much in a way so I'm fine with them use the park as much as they want to

[49:35] My most should die for

[49:39] But she wanted a great 100 though

[49:45] Okay, yes

[49:46] I go yet. I'm sorry. I recommend that instead of I think instead of having

[49:51] I apologize, instead of having a fixed security fee or staffing fee at $100, excuse me, a fixed staffing fee.

[50:00] That you increased that to a $200 or $250 deposit. And that the, for example, let's say that one event requires three hours worth of staff, then that person gets the refund, minus their deposit. And that way, it takes it out of your hand to determine to you, because you don't know what events can require what staffing. If it's to fix the deposit, then the parks and wrecks or the people or infrastilities, they will determine what amount of refund of persons entitled to based on what staff.

[50:25] the work. Yeah, for that too. I think that's okay. You know, I'm thinking commission's I'm not

[50:31] sure you all feel about this. Why don't we just absorb by everything we're talking about right now.

[50:36] They come back with a workshop. No, I'm not. We keep we keep table in this. I mean, I mean,

[50:41] you can't really think it's not. Listen, we have a motion in the second. Let's move. Yeah, you

[50:45] see. I see $50 and $100 security and you asked me to amend it to

[50:53] For the parts of the bank for the beans.

[50:55] Yes, for the beans.

[50:56] $100, the caretakers.

[50:57] And $50.

[50:58] And that's just for the, that's for parts.

[51:01] That's a part.

[51:02] That's for the big and.

[51:03] That's for the big.

[51:04] For the big, that's not the part.

[51:05] And the park is probably going to open.

[51:06] No, no, no.

[51:07] I was I wasn't seeing just for the position, but I get what you say.

[51:09] If you want to have a.

[51:11] If you want to have a plea and 50 dollars, and it's a hundred and the policy says they have

[51:16] to have the insurance.

[51:19] I said I can do the.

[51:20] I already said let's go.

[51:21] I get a question on it.

[51:22] Most of the second all in favor size and one of polls. I polls that. All right. That is for one vote.

[51:30] We didn't do the bill. All right.

[51:32] Next we do have another most one of the floor and do the building for the building.

[51:36] I moved that we have $500 for eight hours to 50 for four hours in the same $200 to

[51:45] $250 for the cleanup. What about security?

[51:47] Well, we talked about security, that's in there as well.

[51:50] I'm just saying, I want her to mention that, too.

[51:52] So people call it.

[51:53] Because it's in the package.

[51:54] Oh, yeah.

[51:54] It's already in the package.

[51:55] He spoke of this.

[51:58] So he got to have security as well.

[52:01] Yeah.

[52:02] Five hundred, five eight hours, two fifty for four.

[52:05] And that was two fifty for deposit.

[52:08] Any other case in the second case that'll be holding.

[52:12] All right.

[52:12] Now that deposit was that inclusive of employees or that separate so point of clarification

[52:18] Okay, so first clarification is you have five hundred dollars for eight hours and two fifty for four hours

[52:24] What what is that supposed to charge for the time in between so like are you saying for let's say

[52:29] As the person uses six hours are we is that does that go to the and I hate to be detailed

[52:34] But this is gonna become a problem does that go to the lower fear the higher fee you know if you take all you do is take that date

[52:39] I would five hundred divided by eight and eight on two hours

[52:42] Is that what you're saying we would divide the hourly on a pro wrap that you're saying

[52:45] a pro wrap?

[52:46] Yeah, if he goes, if they go over two hours, when you just charge the two hour rate,

[52:51] it depends like some places, if you go over it, then you automatically get a full day.

[52:54] Some people charge it pro wrap, I'm just asking you why.

[52:55] I understand what you're saying.

[52:57] If you want to go and charge them 500, charge them 500, but they only get two more hours.

[53:03] That's fine.

[53:04] I understand that there would be anything, and an hour would be half a day.

[53:09] And then anything over half a day would be a full day.

[53:11] Okay, let's just do that and get it to go.

[53:13] So P, 500,000.

[53:16] If you go over 500, if you go over half data, it's going to be 500, yeah.

[53:21] Okay.

[53:21] 250.

[53:24] So that'll be up to them.

[53:25] That's where this up to them, because stop it when they get ready.

[53:29] And then the 250 is just the deposit, or is that for the employee and now?

[53:32] Well, that's not 250 deposit.

[53:34] If you do 250 deposit, that's going to cover four hours anyway.

[53:37] And if you do that, you're not refundable, but that's why I wanted to know is that you want

[53:45] a second, two, fifty just for the deposit, for the cleaner.

[53:49] Yeah, my recommendation to the board is that based on your numbers that you have a $250 for

[53:54] four hours, $500 for four hours plus, because that's how it happened in the language.

[54:01] We can give a 30 minute grace period, but after that grace period, $500 for four hours

[54:07] plus 250 staffing deposit, that's subject to refund based on the actual staffing time used

[54:15] with an additional 150 security deposit.

[54:17] But every event doesn't require security, it's the special events, 75 plus that requires

[54:22] security.

[54:23] So if you have an event with 20 people, then that's not a security based event, right?

[54:27] If you're going to have an event that's 75 plus and the policy defines it's special event,

[54:31] you need security and site plan and other things to ensure that it's safe with a hundred

[54:34] and fifth of all.

[54:40] I think that's fair I use that I did that based on so just I did that based on the rate of what you guys

[54:49] Pace the security now for the here. I'll be the two guys made an amendment to make it like 22,000 hour

[54:54] and so I did that that's 22,000 hour that equates time of seven and a half hours for security at that

[55:00] That $150 rate, but what you guys have under your current contract?

[55:05] Clarity to, when you came up with this policy, did you look at naval ramparts and facilities?

[55:12] I did, so I looked at, I think I looked at four different counties.

[55:16] I think I said them last time I don't recall them on top of my head.

[55:19] But Tallahassee has a different place, for example, Tallahassee parks.

[55:22] That's obviously the closest to you. For most of their parks, they use three day slots.

[55:25] I mean, they use three slots in a day, so they have like a 9, 8 and 12 slot, a 12 to 3 slot, a 3 to 7 slot, and you rent a slot.

[55:35] For Tom Brown Park, for example, to their big, their flagship park, the use fees are a lot lower for their

[55:41] pervillions, but in aggregate it's a lot, it gets used a lot more, so it's still, maybe we should

[55:46] same end just cheaper because of number eight.

[55:48] And as well as the buildings like the facilities

[55:52] that they may have, that people use for events,

[55:55] you look at those.

[55:56] I looked at the, I looked at it for the policies

[55:59] to make sure that the policies were consistent.

[56:02] I did not look at, if I did, I don't recall

[56:05] looking at the numerical rental amount.

[56:07] That's the, I didn't come up with that amount.

[56:09] Remember the first time I made a recommendation,

[56:11] it was based on what was currently being charged

[56:13] by elderly affairs that we went over.

[56:14] And so that was my first recommendation and so I didn't look at what Tallahassee charges for buildings only parks and again the reason why I'm asking is that as I've already stated

[56:23] I'm concerned that this is not a money maker. We do want to you know buildings to be used

[56:29] But these buildings belong to us in the citizens everybody that are here

[56:34] So I'm not trying to

[56:36] Charge like

[56:38] These ask a normal amount for these do these facilities. So

[56:42] because I think right now we were charging if the member we serve and I could be wrong

[56:46] what were we charging for senior service time in Scott building was it for the standard fee for

[56:50] anybody that came off was $400 and there was another tiered if you were a member at a staff member from

[56:57] time in Scott had another rate which I want to say was $200 and there was another rate if you were a senior

[57:02] that went a senior who participated in service there was a different rate so we had a free rate system

[57:07] Okay. It's my recollection.

[57:09] All right. No problem. Thank you.

[57:11] Okay.

[57:12] All right.

[57:12] Well, I'm fine.

[57:13] Now we're back to the 50 to 50.

[57:15] We know.

[57:16] Okay.

[57:17] Set up.

[57:18] It's cured, here.

[57:19] Are you going to put that senior caveat member in there

[57:23] as Mr. Green asks?

[57:25] I think we just lied them.

[57:27] We just keep going.

[57:28] Oh, we just go ahead and get and solve this problem.

[57:30] Right.

[57:31] Yeah.

[57:31] We wanted to see somebody with their own faces.

[57:34] Well, no, it needs to be.

[57:35] It's already in the contract.

[57:38] It's in there.

[57:39] It's a discretion.

[57:40] It's a discretion.

[57:41] And that's going to be distributed.

[57:43] It's not.

[57:43] They don't do that.

[57:44] That's what I'm saying.

[57:45] That's how they are.

[57:48] All right.

[57:49] So we go on a 500 and a 250.

[57:51] This discussion was on the set up in cleanup.

[57:56] Last thing I would note just for the record is that this does allow the

[57:59] the Administrator in Section 20, Section 22 has the Administrator authority.

[58:05] It does allow the Administrator to require additional assurance coverage,

[58:09] additional deposits or bonds. For example, let's say that somebody submits an event with

[58:13] 500 people, right? Then 250 dollars is not enough for staffing for 500 people. And so this allows

[58:20] the Administrator to increase the deposit if we have that kind of large event because 250

[58:25] Mr. Chairman, that's with the notification to the commission, so that that discrepancy

[58:34] can be kind of funny.

[58:36] For sure, if the administrator makes any variance of this policy, this policy requires

[58:40] that he notify you at the succeeding at the following meeting.

[58:43] No, just to notify us before the event.

[58:46] I'll amend that.

[58:46] Is that what the, if the will the board knows?

[58:48] Because that way, if there's any problems with the public, first thing they're going to do is

[58:51] commission and I'm going to say why did you charge me a and charge somebody else b so that's

[58:57] going to be that's going to be the problem so don't don't we don't we don't need to get into that

[59:00] are you admitting your boat is that the little boy that's I mean definitely I mean I

[59:03] didn't leave the hand to the discussion of the kind of man I don't care that's how they do it

[59:07] to school nobody is yeah that's why they're in the trouble here but what I'm saying is this we need to

[59:12] make sure that we don't have these problems because I have somebody I can tell you I'm looking at them

[59:21] be bothered. And I'm sure when I leave it, you're not going to be bothered with it. But just

[59:26] just let it notify before the event. And I mean, it's just a quick email or whatever that

[59:31] we will all know. I mean, they all know. Okay. But that's it. That's I made my motion to include

[59:37] that. I think we're ever second would have to accept that. I'm not sure. No one's second. Yeah.

[59:45] Okay. I apologize. That's on the 500 and the 250. It is dies of let's say. I won't say it.

[59:52] can you restate it? I mean I can say it just a bit a lot. I can stick my understanding of the motion.

[59:58] Okay, go ahead.

[59:59] My understanding of the motion is...

[1:00:00] For, to set the rental price for buildings, at the full day price to be $500, the half day price to be $250, any event that's more than four hours, 30-minute grace period is a full day cost, $250 for staffing deposit, to the subject to refund based on the actual staffing cost, a $150 security deposit, or security fee, and also the rest of the last amendment.

[1:00:30] is to require the administrator to send a email notice

[1:00:34] if there's any variance prior to the event taking place.

[1:00:37] He still doesn't have authority to do it.

[1:00:38] He just has to give you notice before the event happens.

[1:00:43] And that's the memo sheet.

[1:00:46] Is there any verbal objections to the motion?

[1:00:51] No.

[1:00:51] My, I'm just to look on the, I know if we somebody said 750,

[1:00:57] somebody said should be morning that I'm still

[1:00:59] could provide $400 and $200, but I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I'll see you

[1:01:05] reaction. But I just wanted to make sure that it's accessible for our citizens because

[1:01:13] again, this is not a business for us, but thank you.

[1:01:17] All right, we should simply. And I just want to be clear, actually checking with

[1:01:26] another municipality that has a facility, and this is actually less than what they, what that

[1:01:35] municipality charge is. So $500 is we, yes, we're making it accessible when these facilities

[1:01:43] do belong to the citizens, but I think that the citizens want to make sure that we're able to

[1:01:56] rates are for rental of facilities that $500 is not, and we are putting in, we're making

[1:02:09] the, making it available so that there needs to be some type of exception, then that we

[1:02:17] are able to do that. So based on whatever we're concerned about seniors or, because

[1:02:26] about other might might not just be seen as a concern about something else

[1:02:31] or organization or something then we can make those decisions based on that.

[1:02:36] Well, that's the second commissioner holds.

[1:02:38] Okay, we have a motion of second. All in favor of size.

[1:02:42] It won the polls, Eric Kingston.

[1:02:45] Okay, three to vote.

[1:02:49] All right.

[1:02:49] So next.

[1:02:57] Click a court.

[1:03:00] All righty.

[1:03:01] County attorney.

[1:03:05] in our county to answer the only item I have is asking for a motion to be made to approve

[1:03:14] the settlement that the board authorized in the state meeting and give the authority to

[1:03:18] give the chair authority to execute all documents necessary to accomplish the settlement in

[1:03:23] Secobbers Gaston County, MSC.

[1:03:25] So, Mo.

[1:03:26] So, thank you.

[1:03:27] All right.

[1:03:28] Well, a motion to second, all in favor of sign.

[1:03:30] All right.

[1:03:31] In one of the polls.

[1:03:32] Five o'clock.

[1:03:33] That's all I have, Mr. Chair.

[1:03:34] Thank you very much.

[1:03:35] of Nick's of Inner County administrative.

[1:03:39] Thank you, Chairman.

[1:03:43] All county governments have the moment

[1:03:45] to experience some financial stress

[1:03:47] as we're at least being prepared

[1:03:49] to care for them in the three of all of us.

[1:03:52] Every government is experiencing financial stress.

[1:03:56] In these challenging fiscal times

[1:03:57] I've been charged with reducing our budget.

[1:04:01] I stated in a workshop that we had met

[1:04:03] with directors to get the recommendations

[1:04:06] Regarding reduction of personnel, which is 65% of our budget, I was asked in the meeting

[1:04:13] if I would provide more justification for the recommendations from each department's

[1:04:17] director.

[1:04:19] I would do that.

[1:04:20] I will meet with you and share the director's rationale for the recommendations.

[1:04:26] Also, during our meeting with each board member who desires to meet with me, I would like

[1:04:30] to have you and any other, I would like to have any other budget cutting recommendations

[1:04:35] that you might have. It's all at four to I mean.

[1:04:38] Thank you. All right, next, I will have a 515A commissionals. So, I'll go back to communication.

[1:04:50] I mean, we've had some communication problems here lately. And I say this publicly, the

[1:04:56] regardless of where somebody falls here there as commissioner.

[1:05:02] I'd like to start off with Mr. Chair, I would like to see you meet with all the constitutionals. And even the city that this amendment

[1:05:15] three, and so you get an idea of a larger, of what this thing is going to be.

[1:05:25] He had me, you said it up so we can, yes or no.

[1:05:29] I've been meeting with the, you know, my time is, yes, but I'm going to get time right now.

[1:05:36] The only other thing is, with the new lobbyist, I'm hoping that he'll meet with each commissioner

[1:05:43] and take priorities and that we have the ability to understand what's going on and that we get

[1:05:50] regular communications about things that are happening. And I will yield, I'm done.

[1:05:58] Okay, well, I went to my turn, 15 feet. Commissioner, a runteria's green.

[1:06:06] Thank you so much. And thank you for clarification, Mr. interim manager.

[1:06:13] Again, that was recommendations, not implications that have already been made, so I'm hoping

[1:06:21] that as I stated since you brought it up since I stated, as I stated yesterday, that we

[1:06:26] are not actual practicing that we are looking at what can possibly happen, opposed to the

[1:06:34] actuality of making it happen.

[1:06:36] Um, packed Thomas Park, and proved that I had a brief conversation with you in this

[1:06:41] interim, but there are some things that probably can be done now, that a minimum, um, without

[1:06:47] having to apply for certain grants, so I would love to have, maybe, a walk through with

[1:06:54] yourself or parks and wicks or a homeover, um, as responsible for that park down to Hopkins

[1:07:00] landing. I am going to ask for an organizational chart if we can have that email. I'm sure all

[1:07:09] of us will probably be on it. If that can be emailed to us by the end of this week, that

[1:07:14] would be great, or I'll speak for myself to me by the end of this week, that would be great.

[1:07:19] And I would also like to have that list that we talked about yesterday of the particular positions

[1:07:25] and jobs that may be affected by this, this cut. So I want to openly ask for that in this

[1:07:35] meeting with the hopes of having both of these items by the end of the day on Friday

[1:07:40] on or before. Is that possible to happen, Mr. Inheron?

[1:07:45] Well, make that happen. I appreciate it.

[1:07:50] Lastly, missionaries, we are going on about a year with interim county administrator, as well as the interim county attorney.

[1:08:00] And the reason why I asked for HR to stay is because I understand they have to go and do some things as a real excited about that we just made, which is fine.

[1:08:08] But I do, I don't want to keep talking about, I'm making comments as it relates so we need to move.

[1:08:16] At least with the advertising piece of it, I think that it was a lesson learned from me,

[1:08:22] that I would rather wait until whoever's incoming.

[1:08:25] But the process doesn't need to start.

[1:08:28] We need to have, we've already pretty much laid the foundation for what the requirements are.

[1:08:32] So, I would love for HR to come in here within the next week or two and give a presentation on the things that we've already voted on and if we want to make changes on what we're looking for

[1:08:44] We should be able to do those things openly and start the process maybe we can say open and on

[1:08:50] I'm just given a day open on September the 15 closes on November the 30th

[1:08:55] that way it gives our opportunity from whom ever we'll be sitting on this day as to have input

[1:09:00] on the process of who we were higher for both of these positions.

[1:09:06] In my opinion, it has played out, so it's time to move.

[1:09:11] It is time to come up with a permanent direction and leadership from this board and I will say this again.

[1:09:19] If any of the in rooms that are up here for that's attorney and the the administrator are interested in the job

[1:09:27] They definitely have a rewrite to apply and I promise you are we 100% fair

[1:09:31] We each in every individual up here. I simply won't was best for our county

[1:09:36] Not saying that we don't have the best, but I would definitely like to see what our options are and I'm hoping that I can get

[1:09:42] For other commissioners that would agree with me that we need to start this process

[1:09:47] and we need to do what's best for our county.

[1:09:50] Thank you.

[1:09:51] Thank you very much, Ms. Green.

[1:09:53] All right, next 15C, Commissioner,

[1:09:58] Alonzetta Simkins District 2.

[1:10:00] Thank you. The only thing that I have recently there has been, I know of a couple of incidents where trees are falling and actually on vehicles as they were riding.

[1:10:20] those trees as old that's hanging over the highways and on

[1:10:26] at a plugless, at a plugless highway,

[1:10:30] some on the front, middle again, roll,

[1:10:35] not sure if post plant has been,

[1:10:38] if those those trees,

[1:10:41] but we have to, I don't know if we need to,

[1:10:46] if the, whether those bucket truck need to be ran

[1:10:49] or whatever needs to be done, but we need to take care of all of those trees and limbs that's over.

[1:10:57] The highway.

[1:11:02] And that's all that I have tonight.

[1:11:07] All right, next commissioner.

[1:11:08] Appreciate it.

[1:11:08] It's almost like commissioner.

[1:11:10] Give commission because a few more seconds.

[1:11:13] It's commissioner.

[1:11:15] I am.

[1:11:15] I'll be great.

[1:11:16] From this whole district floor.

[1:11:17] I don't think I might really...

[1:11:18] OK, I didn't have anything.

[1:11:21] I thought he went before me.

[1:11:22] Yes.

[1:11:22] Commissioner Wooden, OK.

[1:11:24] I'm so busy, sir.

[1:11:26] OK.

[1:11:27] I'm not saying I'm not sure to give me a update on Stephen's school

[1:11:29] and that grant, please.

[1:11:31] We don't have anything on there today.

[1:11:33] OK, I know you don't have anything on a blind date

[1:11:34] and no where is it?

[1:11:37] Last week, we talked about it much ago.

[1:11:40] I think we were trying to get CRA to give us 1.2 million

[1:11:44] Well, the board would get invested as a match.

[1:11:49] There's been no action on that recently.

[1:11:51] Okay, because I spoke with the person that was at the CRA,

[1:11:56] and they said they had not spoken with anyone from the county.

[1:11:59] To bring that to the finish.

[1:12:02] Okay, so you may have since then, or before then.

[1:12:06] But what I need is update.

[1:12:07] The citizen's want to update and we're looking at that on that funding.

[1:12:12] Where is it on the 4.7 million and now you have a grant writer, so please represent that to them and they will be able to look into that

[1:12:23] Because from what I was told by

[1:12:26] Chronicles from Laws and he said you can use a match

[1:12:30] And instead of funding it didn't have to be money so that

[1:12:34] We need to know about

[1:12:36] And they're waiting because I had a question two questions about that yesterday

[1:12:41] Okay, so where is that, what type of match may we be able to use?

[1:12:50] On the determination of employment that you did other day, that person was in drop, I am

[1:12:56] interested in commissioners and looking at payouts as for, is if we're going to do that,

[1:13:02] because when you terminate someone out of drop, they lose the possibility of $2,300,000.

[1:13:09] And I think commissioners we need to really go back and consider that reconsider that we did not say say lay off.

[1:13:16] We said look at terminations, but we did not give the order to lay off to terminate.

[1:13:24] And I think it's very important that we can reconsider that because I'm sure there are going to be repercussions on that.

[1:13:34] What they wrote brought it up before bringing it up again, they're still waiting, Mr. Administrator, to be on the agenda.

[1:13:42] Is there any reason why they're not on the agenda?

[1:13:46] The requirements to meet it, to meet the standard for the agenda has not been there yet.

[1:13:54] But then for the agenda for them to be on the agenda?

[1:13:57] Well, you know, I think it last we talked about, I think it would miss on the D, right?

[1:14:01] No, sir, that does not, you don't do that required D to be on the agenda.

[1:14:06] Okay.

[1:14:06] I asked you to put on the agenda, it's about a fifth time I've asked you.

[1:14:11] Well, more than that, because you've been here years.

[1:14:13] So, yeah, I'm going to ask it almost every month.

[1:14:15] I've heard of them, they're waiting, I'm waiting.

[1:14:19] We've been working on that for a while.

[1:14:20] No, we can't be working.

[1:14:21] Is it the form of emotion?

[1:14:22] Yes, sir.

[1:14:23] We've done a motion before, but I moved that we put, we're bare-wrote on the agenda on that next meeting.

[1:14:30] I would have a motion floor. All the people's are. I want to pose. I have five of them vote.

[1:14:36] And that's with all of the detailed information provided, sir. And notified Mr. Murray now that there to be here.

[1:14:43] What do?

[1:14:44] The other thing is, I have to ask Curtis when Chris, I'm asking when you're not looking. What's the name of that rule out there by the farms?

[1:14:53] Pulse. Okay see I thought he could tell me some stuff. There's some details on that road. I don't even know Mr

[1:15:00] Judges is one of your questions from here. You might as well.

[1:15:04] You may.

[1:15:05] Okay. Love this.

[1:15:08] Because you can come up now.

[1:15:11] Because we don't turn that clock around.

[1:15:13] Do we turn that right, Ryan? You turn it right away.

[1:15:15] Turn it right away, no, I wanna see.

[1:15:17] You can turn it right here. See?

[1:15:18] She won't.

[1:15:19] I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you.

[1:15:20] It's very, veryative matter.

[1:15:21] I know it. But turn it right here. We won't see it.

[1:15:25] Okay. Because you don't bother to cheer them all in a year.

[1:15:27] Then I'm gonna pick it on you.

[1:15:29] Mr. Chair, I like you. I'm left man here right now.

[1:15:31] Could you turn that to clock, do we?

[1:15:33] Mr. Young, could you please tell us what's wrong with post and

[1:15:37] road so they will understand the urgency of why those people

[1:15:40] were up here the other night?

[1:15:42] In other of the concerns from those of the night when it was

[1:15:45] complaining about the road so since then we've went out there.

[1:15:49] We've refreshing that road up with millions as

[1:15:51] more millions. We've also sent a crew out there and

[1:15:54] trimmed that road by. But some of the concerns that have

[1:15:58] is wanting to pave, trying to pave that road and the shape that it's in, it's a narrow road.

[1:16:06] He's long, tell the rest of the stuff.

[1:16:08] And Mr. Poster, who actually lives out there near that road, I even spoke with him today.

[1:16:15] He's not in favor of us, paving that road.

[1:16:19] He said he granted that easement to those residents just for them to get home,

[1:16:24] But he's not in favor of that role being paved.

[1:16:28] He also mentioned that if we decide to pave that role,

[1:16:32] that he's going to come before the board,

[1:16:34] because he want to be compensated for more right away.

[1:16:37] It's what we're going to need in order to pave it.

[1:16:40] OK, now, the reason that that's the reason

[1:16:41] not that I said bring it apart me, it's

[1:16:43] up here.

[1:16:43] They know the history on this stuff.

[1:16:45] OK, that role also plans.

[1:16:47] It has a sweat to one side, because there's

[1:16:50] not enough room on both sides to pave and for ditches.

[1:16:53] So that's a problem with that, but now what is Mr. Attorney, what does a law say on providing the easement?

[1:17:01] Because if you have a you have to provide an easement, that's certain things that you have to do as a property owner when you provide that easement.

[1:17:10] So easement laws complicated, but let's say at 5,000 feet, there's several kind of easements. You can have an easement by prescription. You can have an easement by necessity.

[1:17:16] And so I'm not, I guess the time is expired, but I'll ask you that's your time right now.

[1:17:22] Go ahead.

[1:17:23] Thank you.

[1:17:23] No, no, no.

[1:17:24] I'll ask you that some questions for Curtis.

[1:17:26] That's just, I have a question for him because we got him.

[1:17:29] This is my time anyway.

[1:17:31] But the time has expired.

[1:17:32] But no, I need to ask him a question about, let me say,

[1:17:36] I need to ask him a question about this.

[1:17:37] So what?

[1:17:38] The man already up there.

[1:17:40] Yeah, yeah.

[1:17:41] You know, Curtis can't.

[1:17:43] Because sorry.

[1:17:43] I forgot to can't speak.

[1:17:44] Okay, now I have to I just have to convince these other things, but the reason I want to

[1:17:50] tell you this is because there's something to do one minute commission.

[1:17:54] Yeah, it doesn't mean it's on an easement that a property on a has to do.

[1:17:58] That's a law. Some easements. So if we're going to have this, we have to go and maintain the

[1:18:03] role. Whatever they were doing may be something that the property on may have to also do.

[1:18:09] And that's less cost to the county. That's what I was trying to bring up.

[1:18:12] The other thing is, we don't have a strategic plan and I would rather we still need one,

[1:18:18] but we need to meet with these different boards because those commissioners, the cities,

[1:18:24] they're getting a little bit antsy about this property tax and we just need to sit on and meet with

[1:18:28] some of them face-to-face as well. Okay, thank you. Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[1:18:33] Well, we'll make sure that we work on that commission. That's the top level of our role.

[1:18:38] But let's post and roll too, Mr. Paul.

[1:18:40] Oh, my gender.

[1:18:41] But let me just say this real quick, so we can get it out.

[1:18:44] Mr. Chairman, I don't want you to hit the gap

[1:18:45] because I do have one more thing I need to do.

[1:18:47] What do you want to say, some real quick?

[1:18:48] That would be great if you allow this, yes?

[1:18:52] Right, real quick, because Commissioner Will, you remind me

[1:18:55] that I probably should do it in this format.

[1:18:58] I would like to make a motion that we have a workshop

[1:19:02] on hiring the permanent attorney and manager

[1:19:05] with HR. That's my motion.

[1:19:07] Thank you.

[1:19:09] We didn't have a workshop on the process.

[1:19:12] So are we going to do this?

[1:19:13] I want to make sure.

[1:19:14] So that's why I just want to put it in the form of emotion.

[1:19:17] Okay.

[1:19:18] We got emotion and sake on the paper side.

[1:19:20] All right.

[1:19:21] I want to pose.

[1:19:23] All right.

[1:19:23] I will go.

[1:19:23] Thank you.

[1:19:24] Now I'll really, really click here.

[1:19:27] I know we've been talking about this for a while,

[1:19:30] and I think we need to move forward on this here.

[1:19:33] The bar, bars for infrastructure and everything else.

[1:19:35] We talked about it in the year.

[1:19:37] We kind of got side-tracked by the bombs.

[1:19:40] But I think it's take almost a year to get it.

[1:19:42] So we need to start preparing now to get it.

[1:19:45] So I know you guys want roles,

[1:19:49] warden source projects, so we can go ahead and get the buns.

[1:19:53] Now, the kiddo's buns made for $20,000,

[1:19:57] but that we did $10,000.

[1:20:00] About what 10 years ago, I'm just saying now, maybe 20 million dollars. Now, I think we can get a lot of rolls, you know, warden source projects that we need, each division get a lease, but those four million dollars so we can get about the communities.

[1:20:14] So let's get, let's get, we need to schedule meeting for that to, it's a workshop for that. Okay. But the bug.

[1:20:19] could that's going to be important also to recognize I've been talking and I

[1:20:26] know I thought we put money in the budget last year for the jail but unfortunately I

[1:20:33] don't know I'm not sure whether or not it was there but we need to just look and

[1:20:37] see and and maybe we can earmark the money directly just for the jail right what

[1:20:43] we need to to get the gel fixed and make sure we are in compliance with everything else.

[1:20:50] And also, not only that I'm not talking about just building, I'm talking about, I thought we

[1:20:56] put money for each employee at the gym making at least 51,000 dollars a year. And that's what

[1:21:03] we had on the lives. But according to some of the workers there, some employees, that I talked to

[1:21:09] they said they're not making, they're not making a 50,000 a year.

[1:21:16] So we didn't make sure that they make that, we wanted to make sure we stayed in our employees

[1:21:19] there at the jail because it's something we want to make sure you feel comfortable in everything

[1:21:23] else there.

[1:21:26] So hopefully we can look into that part of it.

[1:21:29] But the main thing about that, I also want to think of public works as well as the folks

[1:21:37] to come out and clean up and make sure

[1:21:40] a code enforcement, right near the halftime height,

[1:21:45] there was either the house was on fire,

[1:21:48] and there was able to get in contact right

[1:21:51] full so they can clean that stuff.

[1:21:53] I'm not sure the county clean up for them,

[1:21:56] or they made it urgent.

[1:22:00] So there was even cleaning up.

[1:22:02] I was at the game, family game,

[1:22:04] and Miss Brighton told me that he would think y'all

[1:22:07] for making that happen clean up because I never would call me.

[1:22:11] And we're gonna appreciate your staff

[1:22:12] for doing that to us on Golden Forest Mass

[1:22:14] while that's of public works.

[1:22:16] Again, I'm T-Sum, I love you guys.

[1:22:18] And nothing you guys can do about it.

[1:22:20] You're Mr. Green, leave it or not.

[1:22:22] I love you, last statement.

[1:22:23] Oh, I see my love, my love can't come like that.

[1:22:26] I got to say, it's okay, I may take my mind

[1:22:29] I'm saying love, I'm sorry.

[1:22:31] We need to get out of the special meeting

[1:22:32] of September 4th to receive the order.

[1:22:36] Okay, good.

[1:22:37] I agree.

[1:22:38] September 4th, that's this week.

[1:22:39] I'm sorry.

[1:22:40] September 4th and September 14th.

[1:22:42] I'm this phone.

[1:22:43] Okay, well, we're sitting out to, sitting out.

[1:22:47] We're sitting out to, I want to end it up like this for you.

[1:22:51] Cause people meet even though when we have a great board,

[1:22:53] I tell y'all we have the best board in America

[1:22:55] and I still say it today.

[1:22:56] From a screen of love, you can be so hope.

[1:22:58] I love you.

[1:22:59] Commissioner, we want to love you, Commissioner.

[1:23:01] of symptoms I love you and Eric Kinssey. You got to love yourself. We love it

[1:23:04] by that. Eric Kinssey I love you too as well. So again meet me in the

[1:23:08] journey.

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