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[music]
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It's 6:00. We going to start our uh city
council meeting for
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July 20th, 2026. We're going to stand
for invocation and remain standing for
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the pledge of allegiance.
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» [clears throat]
>> Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we come
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this afternoon in the most ominous
manner that we know how. Father God,
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thanking you for all thank thanking you
for the last night lying down this
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morning. You so graciously allowed us to
rise. You brought us out to the city to
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take care of the business of the city
this afternoon. We ask you to lead us
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and guide us in the way that you would
have us to go. It's these blessings and
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all blessings we ask in Jesus Christ
tonight. Amen.
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» Amen.
I pledge algiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
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» Roll call, please.
>> Mayor Campbell,
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» here.
>> Council member Bruner,
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» here.
>> Council member Figuel,
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» here.
>> Council member Hall,
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» here.
>> Council member Lacer,
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» present.
>> Council member Mars,
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» present. and council member Ruez.
[clears throat]
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» Now I'm going to open up the floor for
anyone who want to come up and speak for
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three minutes. Not on property tax, just
want to speak on anything. I give you
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three minutes. Anyone want to come
forward?
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» No one move. Sir, close this part.
>> Oh, he was about to get [clears throat]
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up, sir.
>> Huh?
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» About to get up.
Can you state state your name and your
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address, please, ma'am?
>> My name is Linda Treywick. I live at 207
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Main Street
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» in Garden City.
>> Yes, ma'am. Okay.
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» All right.
Mr. Mayor, when you first came into
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office, your salary was $800 a month.
And then you raised it in 24
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to $15,600
a month. That's just for you. That's not
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for everybody else. All of your raises
went up, too. So
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now you're discussing the possibility
of raising your pay again.
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Your vision says that thriving
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said a Can you read my own writing?
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a thriving community set on continual
improving the community's quality of
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life.
I don't see that not for 88%.
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So here's the thing.
You have
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average one to two hours
every two weeks per month.
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very rarely over that. That averages out
to $325
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for you.
And I don't get it. So now you're
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raising our taxes and we can't even
afford to pay taxes.
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» Anything but taxes, ma'am. You know, you
can talk about anything but taxes.
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» That's what I'm here for. Is this
>> Well, it's not that time yet. That's why
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that's why I say I'm giving anybody 3
minutes to speak but not on anything
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except taxes for right now.
>> Well, we going to get to the taxes part.
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» I'm sure.
>> Okay. Anybody else want to get up and
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speak for three minutes on anything
other than taxes?
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Okay. Well, we're going to close that
part.
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[clears throat] Okay. And now we got
three public hearings and that's on a
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military receive a public comments for
the mayor and council to intensively set
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the Avalorin tax rate. Now anyone want
to get up and speak on taxes? Now you
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got three minutes to come up and speak.
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Okay, you've already heard everything I
got to say except
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per meeting
you
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get paid $325
per meeting.
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And yet you want to raise our prices,
our our taxes,
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property taxes to I don't even know what
you want that for. 88%
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and you lost your mind.
I mean, I'm serious about this. I can't
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afford a a tax rate. Not for 88%.
And I'm sure there's not many people in
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here that can.
I've said enough. I said what I want to
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say.
>> Thank you, ma'am.
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Mr.
>> Anyone else? Anyone else?
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» By the way, uh I just wanted to make a a
point. There's been no resolution or
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motion or any paperwork at all about
raising the salary of the mayor and
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council. Uh so I don't I don't know
where you got your information from, but
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» I had an old line on line.
>> Okay. Well, it's incorrect or you
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misunderstood it because there's been no
move to increase the salary of any
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council person,
>> especially not 15,000 a month.
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» Let him speak, Jim.
>> Yes, ma'am. State your name and your
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address, please. Ma'am,
>> my name is Amy Blackchman. I live at 73
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G um Lynn Avenue. So, I reviewed the
slide deck that's online, but it left me
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with a lot of questions. It's pretty
vague. I'm wondering if you can provide
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a reconciliation showing the city's
total recurring revenues by source for
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fifth fiscal year 25 compared to fiscal
year 26, including property taxes, fire
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fees, sales taxes, franchise fees,
business taxes, licensing, permits,
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charges for service and transfers, and
identify exactly how much new recurring
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revenue the city expects to collect
under the proposed budget as compared to
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last year.
>> Bon has
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Did you I'm sorry. Have you looked at
the PowerPoint that has been presented?
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» Yeah, it's pretty big
>> because there's budget numbers in there
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that show the 2025 [clears throat] and
the 2026.
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» It doesn't give a bottom line comparison
and it and there's like about a 4.9
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million difference over the fire fee
costs that isn't clearly explained and
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it it doesn't show where they're coming
from. Is it just on property owners or
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what what part of that is being, you
know, being attributed to our local
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business taxes, sales taxes?
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» I think it's going to slide.
>> Yeah, it's not going to
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Okay. Of the 2026 budget, only $3
million was budgeted for property taxes.
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As of yet, the budget has not been
changed to reflect the proposed property
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tax rate because it hasn't been approved
yet.
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» It goes back to there's not a clear line
by line comparison though.
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» The the 2026 budget is online.
>> I've reviewed it and I reviewed the
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2025.
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Those are my comments.
Mr. Mayor, can I say something?
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» Yes.
>> Um, I didn't catch your name, but the
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2025 and 2026 city's budget is online.
It's open records. All expenses and all
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income as part of the open records. That
is online. It's nothing that we're
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trying to hide or anything.
>> Anyone else want to come up and speak?
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I got something to say.
>> Good afternoon, council.
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» Good afternoon.
>> Uh, Shagari Williams, 59 Barnado Avenue.
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» Mhm. And my question to the council is
uh to the finance person, the uh city
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manager, whoever um the surplus that the
audit say we had, have y'all uh decided
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is there any thing that can be allocated
to cut that 88%.
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» We do allocate some of our surplus
appropriation of fund balance. We do
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that every year. So, we do use some of
our surplus.
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» Okay. But I'm saying the auditor said
and I'm Did he say 16 million surplus?
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Was that the number?
>> No, he was talking about the days that
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we have the months that we have to
operate
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» in case of an emergency.
>> Yes, ma'am.
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» That's what he was talking about.
>> Okay. So, what is our surplus? Well, we
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have a surplus and then we borrow from
it to appropriate in the budget. In our
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budget, if you'll see what the revenues
are, we have an appropriation of fund
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balance.
If you go online and look at our actual
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budget,
>> okay, I I'm listening to you.
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» Yeah,
>> but you're not answering my question.
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» I asked you what is our surplus? What's
the number?
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» Well, the surplus, what is our number?
>> I don't know. I don't have it in front
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of me. She doesn't have it in front of
her, but
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» I know from the last year for 2020 2025,
we had we appropriated 3.7 million out
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of our surplus to the budget to balance
the budget. And this year, we
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appropriated for the proposed budget for
the adopted 3.9.
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And if you add the fire department in,
when you move it from your enterprise
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fund to your general fund, we're going
to have to appropriate over five million
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out of the surplus. And if you keep
appropriating out of the surplus, you're
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going to use all your savings. So it's
just like your personal um accounts. If
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you keep using your savings, you're
going to deplete it.
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So we do offset it.
>> Okay. uh you gave me some numbers from
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2025 and I understand that if you keep
taking and not replacing then you you
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drill it. I understand that.
>> But what I'm saying is in for this
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military increase.
>> Can't we use some of the surplus to cut
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some of that idiot?
>> We still we still will be using some of
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the surplus to cut that amount. Yes, we
still will be to balance the budget. We
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are not covering the whole amount with
the fire department. moving over because
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you have 13 departments already in the
general fund and now you're moving
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another department a major department in
with over five million just about close
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to 5 million in expenditures. So you've
got to increase revenue.
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Three minutes is up.
>> Finish.
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» You You can finish answering the
question, Rhonda. But three minutes.
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» So you do have the surplus. So we are
subsidizing it. Yes, we are.
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» 3 minutes up. I I still don't feel like
I got a a good answer.
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» Okay.
>> Um but thank you.
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» Anyone else want to come up and speak?
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» Mr. Mr. Mayor, may I ask one question
regarding the uh question that was just
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asked? If the millage rate is set at the
7.581 as proposed, how much
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appropriation of funds will be
appropriated for this year at that point
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compared to what we initially had as the
3.5?
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» You're talking about if you did a lower
>> right now as proposed, what will the
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appropriation of funds
be? Well, at your 7.581, now this is
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just an estimate, you're still going to
have to appropriate over about 700,000,
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maybe up to a million depending on on
how the budget comes in. If you did six
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mills, you're still going to you're
going to have to appropriate
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approximately 2.2 million. And if you
did 5.5 mills, it's going to be
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approximately 2.7 million.
>> Okay? And when the budget was approved
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last year, um whenever it was adopted,
it was adopted with an appropriation of
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3.538 million. Is that correct?
>> Yes.
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» Yes.
>> So you're looking to reduce that number
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drastically.
>> Probably to around Well, it depends what
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you adopt.
>> The number increased um 1.7 million. So
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it's at 5.3 right now. So we are looking
>> correct. But with the 7.581 millillage
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rate, it will reduce that appropriation
of funds down to about $700,000.
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Correct.
>> Yes.
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
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» All right. So, state your name and your
address, please.
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» Miles Gerorado, 76 Lyn Avenue.
Uh, I should have got up here a little
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quicker, but y'all close it out so fast
and I kind of a little bit on the tax
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situation, too. Um, I love my
neighborhood. I think it's one of the
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best neighborhoods in Garden City and be
so close to Savannah
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District 5.
Uh, but the thing is, anytime we go to
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do something in Garden City, we got to
leave the city to go shop. It don't
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matter what it is. U, the food line up
here is okay. It's convenient, whatever.
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No deli, no bakery. We had three grocery
stores when I moved here at one time
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when Dixie was here, but way before my
time. But anyway, uh 88% increase and
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the assessment values keep going up.
That means more property taxes for the
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county and so on and so on, you know,
and it's just my bill just went up $50
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this month. And I don't know how much
it's going to go up with the 88%
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increase. I just think it's unreal to be
that high. I know they're trying to take
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care of the fire department and so on,
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not take care of each other. We have
services and everything.
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» That's all I have to say.
>> Thank you, sir. [clears throat]
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» Anyone else want to come up and speak?
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How y'all doing today?
>> Fine. You sir [clears throat]
[15:04]
Elliser 5228 Augusta Road Highway 21
over there.
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So I guess what I'd like to ask is um
the reason we're here. We're talking
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about this tax increase, but this has
been evidently creeping up on everybody
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for some time now. I think the fire fee
was implemented back in what 2009.
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Does that sound correct? Something like
that. I know it's something like that.
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It's on your site.
>> No,
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» excuse me.
>> Oh, excuse me. Okay. Okay. Okay. So,
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what I'm trying to figure out though, so
we just went through the court. We read
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everything in the papers. Garden Se was
found. they have to pay X amount of
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dollars towards a lawsuit that the
people that were being charged are going
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to receive 20 some odd percent of what
they actually paid in which that's a
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whole different story here. But what I'd
like to know is what part of this is
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Garden City? What part are y'all owning
with all of this? And instead of trying
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to pass it all off to the citizens and
businesses, what part are y'all owning?
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If we've got money in the bank, that
sounds like y'all need to take and
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appropriate that money. Y'all need to
exhaust all areas of here prior to
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passing it off to the citizens and
making them pay for mistakes. And I'm
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not saying this council did it. I'm
saying there may have been pre because
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2011, I don't even know if any of y'all
were on this council then. But my thing
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is is can't you can't tax your way out
of a problem. I know that's what they
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want to do. You'll never tax your way
out of it. You're going to have to have
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more physical responsibility and
financial responsibility. And we're
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going to have to cut things that we
don't need. And if you look right over
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here, right to the side, that library
right there. I don't know what y'all pay
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to fund that, how it's funded, if Garden
City has any kind of financial
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obligation to it, but
If we have a dollar going to that, that
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don't need to be there. If we have $1
going in there. So, and the other way I
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look at this too, whether you're from a
certain district or an area
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representative represented, it doesn't
matter. You y'all are our mouthpiece.
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So, that means when you listen, when we
come up here and we say something or we
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talk about it, you're supposed to,
you're an elected official. You're the
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mouthpiece of the people that are here.
Not up here for your own we're going to
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do this or we're going to do this.
Doesn't work that way. That's how you'll
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get voted out.
>> So, what I'm saying is the citizens
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register their complaints.
You listen to them and you don't say,
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"Oh, well, we have to do this." If this
needs to be put off again, it needs to
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be put off because this ain't going to
sit well. We're paying for any and
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everything from a local level.
>> Thank you, sir. You're three minutes.
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» There you go. Right there. I can't even
talk, can you?
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» Okay.
>> Three minutes, sir.
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» Yeah. There you go. That'll be one of
the reasons you'll be one of them gone.
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» Thank you.
>> So be it. Anyone else? on this fire fee
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on this fire fee issue. When council
passed the fire fee in 2011,
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it was legal and there were courts in
Georgia that upheld the fire fee.
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Unfortunately, through time, judges
decide cases differently and in recent
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years a lot of judges have determined
that the fire fee in the form that we
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were charging is is not proper. Uh so
it's not a matter of us doing something
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by mistake initially. It's the fact that
the laws have changed to which question
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the practice that was done a number of
years ago. A court did not tell us to
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pay the fee. We settled the case based
on the fact that we anticipated that a
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court may agree that the tax is invalid.
No court has stated that we agreed to
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settle. I think the claim, whole claim
was almost $5.2 million that we were
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being asked to pay. Um, and we reduced
that amount, I believe, to 1.4.
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And I the council thought that was the
most economical and and wise thing to do
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where you have a court that might issue
an order against us for 5.2 and we have
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a chance of settling the case for 1.4. I
think that if most people had that
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option, I think they would choose
settling the matter for that's that
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relatively smaller amount. But the laws
change and we have to
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uh counter those changes by doing things
in the future and courts have stated
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that fire fees should be part of adorum
taxes that we shouldn't be collecting
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them separately as a use tax. The reason
that the fire protection fees came into
[20:15]
effect is because a lot of jurisdictions
believe that the people who used the
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fire department should be paying for it.
So, the ones that had the bigger houses
[20:26]
or uh were charged more fire fees than
people that just had vacant lots. Um,
[20:32]
but the courts have determined that no,
you shouldn't do it based on that
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method. you should lump it into the ad
voluorum tax and and do it that way. And
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that's what we're doing. Um so it's not
a matter of anybody making a mistake.
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It's a matter of the laws changing to
where we need to do things differently
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as most other cities have that same
problem.
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» Okay. Anyone else want to come up and
speak?
[21:05]
Okay.
[21:19]
Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name
is Don Mthoon and I reside at 2621
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Woodlon Avenue. and and my first
comments I would like to address to
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council member Bruner in a council
workshop um I don't know maybe a couple
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of months ago um you brought up the fact
that um 28 years ago when your side of
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town was annexed into Garden City you
were promised
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» I wasn't annexed in 28 years ago sir
it's only been about 18 years I wasn't
[21:52]
annexed in 28 years ago it's only been
about maybe 18 years since we were
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annexed in.
>> Well, it was 28 years ago. I got the
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information from the city and I actually
looked online and actually um Dean
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Kicklder was the mayor and so it was 28
years ago. So you said um we were
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annexed in get we were annexed in and we
were promised um water and sewer, no
[22:21]
property taxes
and more services.
[22:26]
And in those comments I felt a little
buyer remorse. So I can't say what
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would have happened with the water and
sewer. I'm sure there would have been
[22:38]
some cost with it for 15 years. You
didn't pay anything. So to your comment
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that
that side of town, this side of town
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doesn't have better services. So I took
a look. So your personal residence, you
[22:57]
pay $44 a year in Garden City taxes.
$44.
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This group is going to decide on a
millage rate of 7 and a half meals. So
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if we could change time and you were in
the special services district
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and the village rate in Garden City is
7.5.
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So what would you pay if you were still
in the county? Because you would pay
[23:27]
county taxes and you would also pay an
extra tax. So, what does that tax
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consist of? First thing you would pay is
$85 dry trash fee. The second thing is
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you would lose your $40,000
homestead exemption that Garden City
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gives you. And the second thing is the
millage rate for the UNC unincorporated
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county is 6.5 mills. So, you indicated
you have better services. So, what would
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the county be giving you? Um, you would
have county police protection. The
[24:07]
county would be cutting your rideways
over there. I'm sure that we've all seen
[24:11]
a county maintained right away. And the
fire department would be serving you.
[24:19]
That's all you get.
So, it's your opinion that you're paying
[24:24]
$44 Garden City taxes and you get
nothing for it? I can't understand that.
[24:32]
Next person, Mayor.
>> May I get how much?
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» Next would be
Council Member B. So in September of
[24:44]
2020, he came to the senior center to
speak uh tied his uh business
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experience, managed millions of dollars
in budgets, and in my hand, I have a
[24:58]
copy of the 2025-year budget. And in the
next two weeks, I'm going to dig dissect
[25:05]
that and I'm going to tell you all the
wasteful money. Can you identify
[25:10]
anything in that budget that you could
cut?
[25:14]
» Were we speaking about from five years
ago?
[25:16]
» 10 10 months ago. You said, "I'm going
to look at the 2025-year budget and in
[25:21]
two weeks I'm going to tell you about
all the wasteful spending." So my
[25:25]
question is, you've had the budget for
10 months. Can you identify?
[25:31]
» I will.
>> Three minutes up, sir.
[25:33]
» Only one thing. I would like the fire
chief and the police chief to come up
[25:38]
and explain because
Chris said he would eliminate
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» three minutes. Three minutes up three
minutes up, sir.
[25:46]
» I would like three minutes.
>> Say, sir, I I will say my my voting
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record is public.
>> Chris,
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» Michael,
>> um with all due respect, uh some of that
[25:57]
information is that may be correct for
my homestead, but I own multiple
[26:01]
properties in Garden City. I pay
multiple fees to Garden City and I
[26:06]
promise you I pay more to Garden City
than Mr. Bthoon has paid. Uh I pay storm
[26:10]
water fees of over $300 a month. I was
paying the fire fee of another $200 and
[26:15]
something dollars a month. And I have
several other properties that I pay
[26:19]
property tax to Garden City on that are
way more than $46 a year. So thank you.
[26:25]
» Thank you.
>> Yeah. No, I was just going to say my
[26:29]
voting record is public. Um, you know,
as you said, I I said that I would vote
[26:32]
against wasteful spending, and I think
I've done that in my time on council.
[26:35]
There have been, I don't know, four or
five different things that have come
[26:38]
across that I voted against because I
didn't feel that we needed them.
[26:41]
» Anyone else want to come up and speak,
>> but we're going to close this part of
[26:46]
public hearing.
[clears throat]
[26:49]
Now, we have village point, town home,
final subdivision map.
[26:56]
Anyone want to speak for it?
[27:04]
U my name is Travis Bazemore. I'm an EMC
engineering. I'm here tonight on behalf
[27:09]
of the applicant. Um just here mainly to
answer any questions if you have them.
[27:14]
Um, don't have.
[27:27]
» Good afternoon, Mayor Council. Uh, Carl
of ours for planning and zoning. Um,
[27:32]
this is I just like to ask um open
public comments for this final plat.
[27:36]
This was this came up front front of you
in 20 2022 for the uh the initial uh
[27:44]
plat subdivision. This is behind city
hall if you know with 76 U town homes
[27:49]
trying to being built. This is just
public comment and for uh the final
[27:54]
plat. Nothing has changed. All the
infrastructure has been put in place.
[27:58]
They also paid for the new roadway to
extend Constantine that the city will
[28:02]
take on after uh the final inspections
as well as we've received all the bonds
[28:08]
and warranties for this development uh
initially for 30 30 months of uh
[28:13]
warranty and bonds set in place. City
staff doesn't have uh no concerns or
[28:18]
objections on it and just recommend for
approval. So just like to open up for
[28:21]
any public comments. Okay.
>> Anyone want to speak against this
[28:26]
project? Anyone else want to speak for
it? Anyone want to speak against it?
[28:32]
We'll close this part of the
[clears throat]
[28:35]
Now we have a general development plan
129 St. Joseph Avenue recip recipant
[28:42]
Jonathan Austin seeking to approve for
the construction of a 6,000 square ft
[28:48]
metal building petition in 4500 square
ft. Anyone want to speak for that?
[29:01]
Good morning or good afternoon again. Um
just give you an update. This mix came
[29:05]
in front of uh planning commission um
and their recommendation was denied due
[29:10]
to traffic concerns um existing
conditions on St. Joseph's Avenue and as
[29:16]
well as the commercial being on a
residential area. city staff's
[29:20]
recommendation. Um obviously they meet
all of the zoning uh requirements, any
[29:25]
zoning laws, buffers and the permitting
use based on that zoning. Um so based on
[29:30]
the zoning appro zoning laws, city staff
has recommendation. Now there is some
[29:35]
concern [clears throat] with u obviously
the public on that side repeating into a
[29:39]
residential area. Um we like to open for
open um for public. The petitioner is
[29:46]
here and property owner. I'll let him
speak on behalf of him as well as um any
[29:52]
anybody against opposing on that.
>> Okay.
[29:57]
» State state your name and address,
please, sir.
[30:02]
» Austin Page, 129 St. Joseph Avenue.
Um I bought this property a while back
[30:08]
um with the intentions of um I own own a
business. I was going to run my business
[30:12]
out of the property and have three other
three other spaces um at it. Um, I
[30:17]
bought it at a higher price because I
believe it was it was because of the
[30:21]
zoning. Um, so I figured I could do, you
know, somewhat what I wanted to do. Um,
[30:26]
[clears throat]
and there was a lot of people opposing
[30:30]
it. Um, at the last meeting, uh, I know
it's my lot faces it's right right uh
[30:36]
faces the back of the Family Dollar.
They had uh and I and I know there's
[30:40]
semis that pull in there that that that
drop stuff off all the time. Um, also
[30:45]
I'm right behind uh the uh in market.
Um, and I mean half the time when I go
[30:51]
over there to clean up the lot, I mean
there's trash everywhere, beer bottles,
[30:54]
all that kind of stuff. So I was trying
to trying to trying to improve it to
[30:58]
make it make it a nice spot. Um, I know
somebody mentioned residential, but as
[31:02]
far as zoning goes for that area, I
don't even think you can build that,
[31:06]
[clears throat] you know, build a house
in that spot. The zone commercial. Um,
[31:09]
[snorts]
also down the road there's a 7200 ft
[31:13]
building on a smaller lot than what I
have. Um, and it's right up against the
[31:18]
house. Um, I wouldn't even be close to
any houses. Um, so I was just trying to
[31:24]
figure out, you know, what um, you know,
what I can do to to uh to actually build
[31:30]
this build this spot.
>> I have a question, sir. Mhm.
[31:33]
» How would the ingress and degress work
when it comes to like public safety
[31:38]
getting into their in in the event that
something happens without impeding
[31:43]
normal flow of traffic in their area?
>> I mean this this small 1500 foot spots I
[31:49]
mean it's not going to be I mean my
business myself I have four employees
[31:53]
where I I would be there maybe two three
days a week. I would it would just be
[31:56]
basically a place to store my equipment
so it wouldn't be a bunch of traffic
[31:59]
going in and out of there.
>> But I thought you like
[32:03]
cutting down to four different units.
>> Yeah, I am cutting down to four
[32:06]
different units, [clears throat]
>> but uh I can't speak for for what what I
[32:10]
mean, but it's a small it's small 1500
foot spot, so I wouldn't I wouldn't
[32:14]
think that there would be a lot of
people there. I mean, I was kind of
[32:18]
thinking there would be people that
would use it for similar use to what I'm
[32:21]
using it for.
>> But there's no guarantee, sir, in
[32:25]
regards to what you're going to um put
in those spots. Am I correct? No,
[32:28]
there's I mean there's there's like I
said there's 1500 square feet. It'd be I
[32:33]
mean possibly a small office or just
storage for some for somebody which is
[32:36]
basically what I'd use it for.
>> Any idea what you'll be storing in
[32:39]
there?
>> Uh I'd be I own an elevator business.
[32:42]
I'd be storing elevator equipment.
>> Elevator equipment.
[32:44]
» Yes, sir.
[32:48]
» I've got a a question. Um your
development goes through a city lane.
[32:55]
Um, you didn't get title to that strip,
did you?
[32:59]
» I have not gotten title for that.
>> I think that
[33:03]
» I think what you're going to need to do
is petition the city to abandon that
[33:06]
lane and then they've got the option of
selling it to you. That's the the rule
[33:11]
under Georgia law, but you just can't
uh cover up a city lane without actually
[33:17]
getting the city to abandon it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I think that probably
[33:21]
needs to be done before
we approve the site plan because your
[33:25]
site plan actually has your project
going over the city lane, doesn't it?
[33:30]
» Yes. Yes. And I spoke with Carlos about
about that before as well.
[33:35]
» I'm sorry. What?
>> I spoke with Carlos about that before as
[33:38]
well.
[33:44]
» Okay. Thank you, sir. All right. Anyone
else want to speak for it? Do we have
[33:49]
anyone want to speak against it?
>> I'm the engineer on his project. I I'd
[33:55]
be happy to answer any questions related
to engineering if you had if you have
[34:00]
any. I mean, I'm obviously for the
project. I mean, these kind of flex
[34:04]
space units are very beneficial to the
local economy. It allows mom and pop
[34:09]
shops to be able to transition into
something smaller.
[34:14]
uh a lot of the stuff that they brought
up at the planning commission
[34:19]
uh and the reasons why they denied it,
you know, were were related to
[34:24]
engineering issues that we were going to
address anyway with the engineering. So,
[34:28]
I don't think they understood that. So,
uh anyway, I'm for it. If you have any
[34:33]
questions, I'll be happy to answer.
>> Okay.
[34:37]
» I I don't know whether the city can
approve something that that goes over
[34:41]
its throttway. So,
>> I mean, it happens all the time in
[34:43]
Savannah. I mean, we we get
encroachments
[34:46]
» and I've always gone before city council
to get city council to abandon lanes
[34:51]
before I had clients.
>> We do that too. A lot of times they make
[34:55]
the homeowner buy it just like you guys
are happens all the time.
[35:01]
» I would suggest the matter be tabled
until the issue of the lane can be
[35:05]
worked out rather than the rather than
the site plan being denied.
[35:14]
Is that it?
>> Thank you, sir. Have anyone want to
[35:18]
speak against me?
[35:22]
» State your name and your address,
please, sir.
[35:26]
» Good evening. My name Julius Bryant. I
live 15 St. George Avenue.
[35:31]
And uh I'm against
this warehouse or whatever they want to
[35:35]
put on here. We got a one way, a oneway
street. One way in and one way out. We
[35:40]
don't need nothing like that up there.
And everybody against it.
[35:47]
I don't care what side he say. We don't
need it. Period. If you going to put a
[35:51]
house there, okay. But a business, no.
We got a enough traffic as it is. We
[35:58]
don't need it there.
And I'm not the only one against it.
[36:02]
Everybody on the street against it.
>> Thank you.
[36:06]
» Thank you, sir. Anyone else want to
speak against it?
[36:14]
State your name and your address,
please. M.
[36:16]
» Hello, my name is Angela Vaughn and I
have a resident at 116 St. Joseph's. I
[36:23]
agree with Julius on not having it
because it's going to block up a lot of
[36:29]
space and people going in and out. So,
I'm against it. Also,
[36:34]
» thank you. One of the things I need to
point out is is that the property is
[36:39]
zoned heavy commercial and when the
applicant bought it, he relied on it
[36:47]
being able to be used for heavy
commercial. In fact, the city's
[36:50]
comprehensive future use plan had it as
as commercial, too. So,
[36:57]
legally, uh commercial use can go on the
property. Uh how he plats it out on the
[37:04]
property is a different issue that the
site plan would determine as far as
[37:09]
buffers and setbacks and how dense the
activity is going to be on the on the
[37:15]
flat. City council can work on that with
the applicant. But as far as his right
[37:20]
to put something commercial there, I
mean, he's got the right to do that.
[37:29]
» Anyone else want to speak against it?
[37:34]
Shagari Williams, 59 Barnado Avenue.
This uh St. Joseph Street property and
[37:40]
you say it's zone for heavy
>> No, just this one piece,
[37:44]
» right? So why don't y'all reszone that
area for residential?
[37:50]
Cuz if I lived on that street, I don't
want to hear that noise. I don't want
[37:54]
stuff coming up and down the street. And
I believe don't the street flood or
[37:59]
something when it's heavy rain.
So y'all want to go up on taxes and
[38:04]
y'all want to put noise in. How much
will this new business contribute to
[38:07]
this 88% to help relieve the citizens?
Also the warehouses that's being built
[38:14]
around Garden City, how much will they
put towards to help the citizens relieve
[38:18]
some of that 88%.
So I'm against it.
[38:24]
Thank you, sir. Anyone else?
[38:42]
State your name and your address,
please, ma'am.
[38:45]
» My name is Tracy Campbell. I stay at 119
St. Joseph Avenue, and I am against it.
[38:51]
We already have one commercial property
at the end of the street, and we deal
[38:54]
with a lot of traffic with that. So to
put another commercial property at the
[38:58]
top of the street, plus you got in
market, you got Family Dollar. They come
[39:03]
in and out and it's just a lot of heavy
traffic. So I'm against it.
[39:08]
» Thank you, ma'am.
Anyone else want to speak?
[39:23]
» State your name and your address,
please, ma'am.
[39:29]
Hello, my name is Tammy Allen and my
parents reside at 115 St. Joseph Avenue
[39:35]
and I grew up there and I just wanted to
speak to the council
[39:40]
um when they reszone that area to
commercial property if I'm not mistaken
[39:46]
sometime back in 1959.
The residents didn't have a voice. They
[39:52]
didn't tell the residents that they were
going to reszone it to commercial.
[39:57]
» So, and then when they put the warehouse
down there because it was already
[40:02]
commercial, unbeknownst to the
residents, when they told them this
[40:07]
meeting was going to happen, the
residents were told 7:00. when they got
[40:13]
here at 7 o'clock, the meeting had
adjourned at had was already over and
[40:19]
they didn't even get a chance to vote.
So, I only think it's fair that the city
[40:24]
council hear the residents
uh concerns and take that into
[40:30]
consideration
um about reszoning as the gentleman said
[40:35]
here and about putting another
commercial property down there. It's a
[40:40]
one-way street. you already have traffic
coming and going um from the warehouse.
[40:47]
You have the traffic from in market and
um Family Dollar with their 18-wheelers.
[40:54]
And you also have I don't know if it's a
sign up there. Um I can't re remember if
[41:00]
there's a good sign, any signage that
says it's a dead end street because
[41:05]
people constantly come down. some big
trucks come down because they think they
[41:09]
can go straight through to uh Bmpton
Road. So, I just ask that you all please
[41:15]
take all of that in consideration when
you decide on this commercial property
[41:21]
or even possible reszoning it. Thank
you.
[41:25]
» Thank you, ma'am.
Anyone else?
[41:29]
» So, we going to close this part of the
hearing. [clears throat]
[41:36]
Approval of the city council minutes
concerning the minutes from July 6
[41:41]
pre-aggenda section and city council um
meeting minutes of July 13th workshop
[41:48]
minutes. Entertain a motion.
>> May I make a motion for approval of
[41:53]
previous minutes?
>> Second the motion.
[41:56]
» Roll call vote on the motion.
>> Council member Bruner,
[41:59]
» approve.
>> Council member Figale,
[42:01]
» approve.
>> Council member Hall,
[42:03]
» approved.
>> Council member Lacer,
[42:05]
» abstain. Council member Mars
>> approve
[42:09]
» and Mayor Campbell
>> approved. Motion carried. Res
[42:13]
resolutions
military.
[42:17]
Uh can you read that by hearing on it
please? Ma'am
[42:20]
» a resolution of the mayor and council of
Garden City, Georgia adopting adopting
[42:24]
the adorum tax millage rate for the 2026
fiscal year and for other purposes.
[42:30]
» Entertain a motion.
>> Mr. Mayor, before we entertain a motion,
[42:34]
I'd like to speak for a couple of
minutes if that's okay.
[42:38]
There you go. Good. I I I've had
concerns with this. I mean, I've I've
[42:42]
gone back over it. I had to sit in the
office with the city manager to try to
[42:46]
understand exactly where
this uh proposal would go as far as
[42:53]
where all of that money would be
allocated. And I have concerns on it
[42:57]
with there's been an appropriation of
funds every year for the last several
[43:01]
years. And most of the mayor and council
that's here now adopted the uh budget
[43:08]
for last year with an appropriation of
funds of $3.538 million. And you adopted
[43:14]
one the year before that with $3.312
million with the expectations that the
[43:22]
revenues were underestimated. the
expenditures were overestimated and
[43:26]
you'd make up for that uh appropriation
of funds. And now we're looking to,
[43:32]
you know, it was said that this millage
rate increase was necessary to cover the
[43:35]
fire fee um loss, which was the $1.46
million um which would not require
[43:41]
anywhere near that type of millage rate
to cover just that loss of revenue. Um,
[43:46]
so I kept asking, hey, where is the rest
of uh, you know, this almost uh almost
[43:53]
$5 million, $4.5 million increase over
what was anticipated uh, from when you
[44:00]
created the budget for 2025. And it came
down to that it was going to be covering
[44:06]
the appropriation of the prior year's
funds or the majority of it down to I
[44:11]
think uh we just said $700,000 would be
what was left in that appropriation of
[44:15]
funds. So why is it that now it's a big
concern to cover the majority of that
[44:21]
appropriation? I mean it was not a
problem at the end of last year whenever
[44:25]
the budget was voted on to have, you
know, $3.5 million and appropriated
[44:30]
towards the budget. So, why is it a
problem now that all of that has to be
[44:33]
covered? Why couldn't we consider a
little bit lower
[44:37]
millage rate increase um to cover the
actual loss of revenue and and maybe
[44:44]
consider bringing it down a little bit?
I think even at 5 mills. Um, city
[44:49]
manager, you said it would bring it the
appropriation down to 2 something
[44:53]
million at 5 mills. Is that correct?
>> 5.5 mills.
[44:57]
» Okay. 5.5 mills would bring it down to
>> about 2.7. That's an estimate.
[45:03]
» Okay, which is, you know, getting close
to a million dollars less than what was
[45:07]
adopted already. So why do we need to go
to
[45:11]
7.581 and cover that if if we were
thinking we would be okay with
[45:17]
appropriating $3.5 million to begin
with. So um
[45:22]
that's that's my question and comments
on it. you know, would would there be a
[45:27]
consideration of possibly going to a
little bit lower increase on the mill
[45:31]
rate versus, you know, going straight to
a 7.581?
[45:37]
» We'll [clears throat]
entertain a motion and every man b his
[45:41]
heart.
>> Mr. Mayor, can I say something?
[45:43]
» Sure.
>> Um, Mr. Bruner, you are correct in what
[45:46]
you were saying. However, if you
remember, initially we talked about 8 ms
[45:51]
before we came up with the um come down
to 7.5 ms, but
[45:58]
I did a calculation on some of the
properties that I own in Garden City. I
[46:02]
have an empty lot.
And right now on that empty lot, I pay
[46:06]
$23.95
tax per year on that empty lot. I do not
[46:11]
have any homestead exemption on that
uh because there's not a home there. My
[46:17]
fire fee, I was paying $6.50
per month on fire fee, which comes to
[46:24]
$78 a year. The $78 plus the $23.95
comes to $11.95
[46:31]
a year. Now, I know this doesn't apply
to everyone situation, but it applies to
[46:37]
a lot of situations. If my property tax
goes up to proposed amount of 7.581%,
[46:44]
I'll be paying a total of $726
per year rather than paying the $11,
[46:52]
which is actually saving me in this
incident on this piece of property $30 a
[46:59]
year.
There are a lot of citizens, senior
[47:04]
citizens that have the homestead
exemptions and would fall in this
[47:08]
category. Now, there are some people
that will not fall in the category, but
[47:12]
this is structured so that the higher,
more expensive homes and businesses
[47:17]
would pay more.
And our citizens are accustomed to
[47:23]
having fire protection, police
protection, storm water drainage, water
[47:29]
and sewage, recreation. They've become
accustomed to it and we've got to
[47:33]
continue to provide it. A lot of people
have said, "Cut the budget. Go into the
[47:38]
savings." If you go into our savings,
the city will lose its bond ratings.
[47:43]
Which means if we go to get loans, if
you've got a good bond rating, we get a
[47:46]
cheaper rate. Had a get a better chance
of getting the loans. If our bond rating
[47:51]
is down, we lose that opportunity.
[47:56]
It is a gut-wrenching decision to make,
but it has to be made. And I would like
[48:01]
to provide our citizens with the service
they are accustomed to using.
[48:05]
» Mr. Mayor, I will interject something as
well before we take the vote. Um, as
[48:11]
everyone has of opinion, of course, and
I just want to point out sitting up here
[48:17]
being elected to make decisions to be
the voice for the people. We hear the
[48:21]
people. We hear exactly what you're
saying. No one likes to talk about tax
[48:27]
increases, including me. I'm a resident
of Garden City, too. Pay taxes. Just
[48:32]
like Councilman Hall mentioned,
everybody has their rate and all their
[48:36]
factors. But again, you have the
homestead exemptions, you have other
[48:41]
exemptions like the school taxes. Those
could be waved after a certain age. You
[48:46]
have the disability taxes that can be
waved on your um tax assessors
[48:51]
um statements if you qualify. But again,
these are different angles that you can
[48:56]
go through in order to get those I call
those expenses offset. But again, it's
[49:02]
our responsibility to ensure that this
city is able to continue to provide the
[49:08]
essential services to our citizens rely
on every day. With the elimination of
[49:13]
the fire fees, we've talked about that,
how that went about, how that started
[49:17]
and everything, we still need to
consider cost of living increases, cost
[49:22]
for staff, cost for benefits, cost for
equipment, all those things taking
[49:28]
effect. Just like you get a cost of
living increase on your social security
[49:31]
checks or just like you get a cost of
living increase on your um jobs for
[49:37]
wages, all those things pay a factor. We
have to look at that being a city. So
[49:42]
with people looking at what we can cut
and what we can't cut, we cannot sit
[49:48]
here and be stewards of your monies and
say that we can vote to discontinue
[49:56]
those services you're used to. It's just
no way. And yes, we've looked at all
[50:00]
angles that everybody's addressed as far
as cutting budgets. That's been looked
[50:04]
at at the beginning. Okay? Of course,
you're going to look at that first.
[50:08]
That's not going to be after the fact.
But as an elected official, it's my duty
[50:13]
to make these difficult decisions. And I
know they're difficult. And I recognize
[50:18]
the impact this increase is going to
have on some taxpayers. But again, we're
[50:22]
here to vote on what's going to make the
city of Garden City grow. What's going
[50:26]
to make it continue to be the place you
want to work, live, and play. Again,
[50:31]
we've got a great police department, so
you want police services. You're going
[50:36]
to want fire services. You're going to
want the new recreation complex, those
[50:40]
services, and I know everybody's looking
at what Garden City don't have, but
[50:44]
again, if we continue to grow and build
this city, we'll get those things
[50:47]
eventually. They they left. They were
here, excuse me, and they left us for
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whatever reason. But again, they will be
back because again, we are pushing and
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we are looking for all other avenues to
bring back the grocery stores other than
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the one grocery store. We're looking at
bringing back some more restaurants. Of
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course, we can't guarantee anything.
People have to want to come to Garden
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City, but we have to make it attractive
for them to come want to come to Garden
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City. So, please, ma'am, please, sir,
please understand that this decision
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we're about to make is not easy. We all
recognize that. Thank you so much,
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» Mr. Mayor.
Citizens of Garden City, this is a tough
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decision. Uh
I was restless ever since last week
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because I know [cough and clears throat]
a lot of citizens that will be affected
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by this. you know, a lot of seniors,
even people in my age group who will be
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affected by this for various health
reasons that they they won't be able to,
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you know, sustain the regular lifestyle
they they they have now. However,
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everything around us is getting higher.
We cannot as a city want to be better,
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want to grow and everything with the
subpar level we was at before. If you
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take a look at Port Wentworth Pula,
everybody around us is growing for many,
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many, many years. If you read the
digest, we have been rolling taxes back.
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» So in retrospect, we are behind. Mhm.
>> We have to catch up and we have to be
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great stewards of the money in order to
in order to even just maintain
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» if we we can't stay at the same level
and maintain Garden City. It just won't
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work. Especially talking about the going
into the the balance and you know taking
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away from the savings, we'll be broke
before we know it as a city. So we have
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to increase and make things better.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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» Thank you. Entertain a motion.
>> Make a motion for approval.
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» Second the motion.
>> Roll call vote on the motion.
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» Council member Bruner.
>> Council member Figale.
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» Council member Hall
>> approve.
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» Council member Lacer
>> approve.
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» Council member Mars
>> approve.
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» And Mayor Campbell
>> approve. Motion carries.
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Resolution Village Point Town as final
subdivision. Can you read it by hand on
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it, please? M.
>> A resolution of the mayor and council
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approving the final subdivision map for
the subdivision of a 17.69 acre track
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located at zero Constantine Road into 76
proposed town home lots owned by Simco
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at Mosswood LLC.
>> Entertain a motion.
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Make a motion that we approve the
resolution for the Village Point Town
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Homes final subdivision map on Constine
Road.
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» Second.
>> Roll call vote on the motion.
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» Council member Bruner,
>> approve.
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» Council member Figale,
>> approve.
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» Council member Hall,
>> approved.
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» Council member Lasser,
>> approved.
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» Council member Morris,
>> approve.
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» And Mayor Campbell,
>> approve. Motion carry. Resolution,
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general development plan for 129 St.
Joseph Avenue. Can you read that by
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heading only, please, ma'am? A
resolution by the mayor and council
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approving the general development plan
application of Ashley Mosley as
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authorized agent for Jonathan Austin for
the construction of a 6,000 ft² metal
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building partitioned into four 1500 ft²
units to be used andor lease for heavy
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commercial use on a project site
measuring 0.42 acres at 129 St. Joseph
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Avenue in Garden City, Georgia.
>> Make a motion to table this for further
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discussion.
>> Second motion.
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So what they're going to do is they're
going to table this until pent notice.
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They're not going to make a decision
tonight.
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Enter enter entertain a motion on it.
>> Motion has been made.
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» Yes, sir.
>> Roll call vote on the motion.
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» Council member Bruner
>> approve.
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» Council member Figale
>> approve.
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» Council member Hall
>> approve.
[55:05]
» Council member Lacer
>> approve.
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» Council member Mars
>> approve.
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» And Mayor Campbell
>> approve. And motion carry. Entertain a
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motion for adjournment. Make a motion to
adjourn.
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» Second.
>> Meeting is ajourned.
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