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[9:48]
We will open with prayer led by
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Councilman Washington.
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Thank you, Madam President. Let us bow.
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Dear Lord, heavenly father, allow the
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words of our mouth, the meditations of
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our heart. Lord, let them be acceptable
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in your sight as we conduct business for
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the greatest city in this United States
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of America. That is Gary, Indiana. In
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the precious name of our Lord and Savior
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we pray. Amen.
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Now stand with me for the pledge
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of
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allegiance
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of the United States of America and to
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the republic for which it stands. One
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nation under God, indivisible with
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liberty and justice for all.
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Roll call. Madam cler.
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Councilwoman Brown.
[10:50]
Councilwoman Cwell.
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Present.
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Councilman Hallebertton.
[10:59]
Councilwoman Ivy.
[11:00]
Present.
[11:01]
Councilman Toiver.
[11:02]
Present. Councilman Washington
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present.
[11:06]
Councilman Wington
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present.
[11:08]
Councilman Williams
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president
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present.
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President there are seven present two ab
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with seven present and two absent. The
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Gary comment council has a form to do
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business in the city of Gary.
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Colleagues, you have before you the
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minutes of our previous meeting. Is
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there a motion for acceptance?
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So move.
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Second. It's been moved and second that
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we accept the minutes of our previous
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meeting. Any discussion?
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Roll call. Madam clerk.
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Councilwoman Brown.
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Cwell.
[11:44]
Yes.
[11:45]
Councilman Ivy. Councilwoman Ivy.
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Yes.
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Councilman Toiver.
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Yes.
[11:50]
Councilman Washington.
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Yes.
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Councilman Wissington.
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Yes.
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And President Lincoln.
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Yes.
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President for the
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with the vote of 720.
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Our minutes of the previous meeting have
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been accepted and are so ordered.
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Assignment of council pending ordinances
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and resolutions on first reading. CPO
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2025-44,
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an ordinance providing for
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appropriations in the building
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renovations fund for the fiscal year
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20226
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expenses and forwarding to the common
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council for action and passage
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pursuant to IC 6-1.1-18-6
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sponsored by Mayor Eddie Melton city
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gear lead city patrol
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finance
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CPL 2025-45
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in order to establish a fund for the
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city of Gary and Hard Rock Casino
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matches for the Lake County Convention
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Center and providing for additional
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appropriations in the casino operating
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fund for the fiscal year 2025 expenses
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and forwarded to the common council for
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action and passage pursuant to Indiana
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code 6-1.1-8-6
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sponsored by Mayor Eddie Melton city
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garrison city control
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finance
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CPL 2020 25-46
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an ordinance provided for the transfer
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appropriations between series for the
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Gary city court for fiscal year 2025
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budget and forwarded to the common
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council for action and passage pursuant
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to Indiana code 6-1.1-18-6
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sponsored by mayor Eddie Melton city of
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Gary city green city controller and
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judge DL Monroe Gary city court
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finance
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mad President.
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Thank you,
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Councilwoman Brown.
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Excuse me, Councilwoman Brown. I would
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like to to acknowledge and let the
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record reflect that Councilman Dwayne
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Howard is present for the meeting.
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Thank you. The finance committee has
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before CPO 202544.
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For the record, I approve this ordinance
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for reporting out to the council.
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Councilwoman Caldwell,
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yes. And Counciloman,
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yes.
[14:16]
Madame President, a majority of the
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finance committee has approved CPO
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202544
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for reporting out to the council. The
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finance committee has before CPO 202545.
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For the record, I approve this ordinance
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for reporting out to the council.
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Councilwoman Cwell,
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yes.
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And Councilman Wington,
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yes.
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Madame President, a majority of the
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finance committee has approved CPO
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202545
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for reporting out to council. The
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finance committee has before CPO 202546.
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For the record, I approve this ordinance
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for reporting after the council.
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Counciloman Caldwell,
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yes.
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And Councilman Wilson,
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yes.
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Madam President, a majority of the
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finance committee has approved CPO
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202546
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for reporting out to
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Thank you, Councilwoman Brown.
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Now the finance committee has to report
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CPO 202544
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2545
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and 2546
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for reporting out to the council.
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Thank you Brown.
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At this time any members for special
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elect?
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Yes.
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Councilwoman Brown.
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Okay. First of all, I'd like to
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acknowledge the 16 weeks of summer where
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you have an opportunity to meet
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Councilwoman Brown. That's me, y'all.
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That's on Wednesday, August 20th from
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300 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. That's in Talison
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Park in the third district at 1709 Elour
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Street Place, I'm sorry. And
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I'd like to announce the the third
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district has had a community meeting for
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some time and so we're going to have one
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on Monday, August the 11th at 5:00 p.m.
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at Talston Park Pavilion. Our special
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guests will be the Chief Derek Canon of
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the Gary Police Department, Miss Gerald
[16:30]
Williams, directors of Gary Farms, and
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County Councilman Ron Brewer from the
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second district. And our other
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uh special guest will be councilman at
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large miles.
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So anyone is welcome to come. We look
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forward to seeing you as again and I
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said Monday, August the 11th at 5:00
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p.m. at Charlton Park Pavilion and this
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will be the first community meeting
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we've had for quite some time. So I'm
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looking forward to residents coming out.
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Thank you, Madam President.
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Thank you, Councilwoman Brown.
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Councilwoman Barnes Cwell.
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Good evening. Please join Councilwoman
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Caldwell in the fifth district community
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forum Monday, August the 25th at 5:30 at
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Rosville Park Pavilion, 2145 Harrison
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Street, Perry, Indiana. Our special
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guests will be
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Congressman Craig Maran, State Senator
[17:32]
Mark Spencer, State Representative Dr.
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Bernie G. Smith, Lake Councilman Ronald
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Gore and I believe representative
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Reagan Hatch. We'll have legislative
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updates will be presented. So please
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join us Monday, August the 25th at 5:30
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at Roosevelt building. Thank you.
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Councilwoman Mars Cwell
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President.
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Councilman Hallebertton.
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also like to har on what my colleague
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stated about the 16 weeks of summer. Uh
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you can meet me on Wednesday, August 6
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at from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m. at this park.
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Um
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it's the city of Gary 16 week meet up
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and please stop by for on-site resources
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and services. That will be Wednesday,
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August 6 between 300 p.m. and 6 pm. Tell
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everyone that Brownsburg Park Councilman
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Hallebert will be there as well as
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Sydney Gary. Thank you.
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Councilman Hallebertton.
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Councilman Toiver.
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Um, yes. I would like to on behalf of
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myself and the Gary County Council, I
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want to wish everybody a great school
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year. I know 21st century started today
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and I know that the other schools will
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be starting. So, I want to give
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everybody uh wishing them the best this
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year. make sure we get that work done.
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And from our seniors, figure out what
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you want to do postsecary education or
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whatever you want to do in life, make
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sure you have a plan because the time is
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of the essence. We have to make sure
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that you have those career opportunities
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at your hands. So, want to wish them a
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great school year.
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Thank you, Councilman Oliver.
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Any other members specialist?
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We have two August birthdays. the Gary
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Common Council. Um, our own
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the voice of the Gary Common Council,
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Cam Reynolds, Your birthday's in August,
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right? Has an August birthday. So, we
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wish you a happy birthday.
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And then in his absence, Councilman
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Dwight Williams also has a birthday in
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August on the 22nd. So, we wish Miss Kim
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Clerk, Madame Deputy Clerk Reynolds, as
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well as our Councilman Williams a very
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happy birthday. And then on August the
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26th at 5:00 p.m., the air pollution
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advisory committee will be meeting here
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at the Gary Public Library. We have
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received notice of a number of air
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polluting permits from the NIPCO, the
[20:12]
Gary Etna Indiana operating center, from
[20:15]
the US Steel Corporation at Gary Works,
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from Carmoose Lime Incorporated are the
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three just this month. The um comment
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period on these applications are open
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and more information about the uh
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applications have been placed here at
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the Gary Public Library and can be
[20:37]
accessible here. But we will talk more
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about these permits on August the 26th
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at 5:00 PM at the Gary Public Library,
[20:46]
this branch.
[20:49]
Councilman Washington.
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Thank you, Madam President. Um, I'd like
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to thank the public who came out to the
[20:56]
Gary Planning Commission's um meeting
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where the a draft of the comprehensive
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plan was presented um before the public
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um was presented by MKSK
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planning director Corey Sharp um with an
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excellent job in presenting. Um we are
[21:15]
going to have a public meeting with the
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planning and development committee
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meeting on August 12th at 5:30 here um
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at the Gary Public Library so the
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comprehensive plan can be presented to
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the common council. Um it was a great
[21:30]
opportunity. under Madam President was
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there and it was a great opportunity to
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see the different properties and what
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the administration has come up with on
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how we're going to strategically plan um
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to get our city's properties in order
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and to be able to get them back on the
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tax roles. I want to say congratulations
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to the mayor and his staff, especially
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Corey um Sharp and Attorney Molina and
[21:52]
um the planning commission who was in
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attendance also had a great um time that
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evening. Thank you, Madam President.
[22:00]
Thank you, Councilman Washington. Any
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other members for specialt
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12 at 5:30 and that's in case you decide
[22:13]
tonight that you want to have your
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budget and finance your finance meeting
[22:18]
on the 12th on Tuesday. You do it at
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5:00.
[22:23]
Hint hint.
[22:28]
Thank you.
[22:29]
You're welcome.
[22:30]
Thank you. Any other colleagues for
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specialists elect?
[22:34]
Seeing none, we have come to the space
[22:35]
in our agenda for public comment.
[22:38]
We have three signed up to speak
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tonight. You have two minutes to speak.
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Our parliamentarian, Linda Barnes Cwell,
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will be keeping time. This is usually
[22:49]
not a question and answer period. It's
[22:52]
an opportunity for the public to make
[22:54]
comments. However, um especially when
[22:57]
questions, comments pertain to city
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services, we have members of the
[23:03]
administration who are here who may be
[23:05]
able to answer your questions. At this
[23:07]
time, all members of the administration,
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can you please raise your hand?
[23:13]
All right, we'll start with Marsha
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Coleman, followed by Mrs. Linda Collins
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Brown. Welcome. And then
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Oh, Brian and Bonnie look.
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Welcome, Miss Coleman. Thank you. Okay,
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I'll be to the point
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closer to the mic.
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Can you hear?
[23:37]
Make sure your mic is on.
[23:39]
Text test. Okay, awesome. Okay, I have
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two questions. The first what I I'll
[23:43]
deal with um for some of my elderly
[23:46]
neighbors they're kind of concerned
[23:47]
about reporting issues fearing that if
[23:50]
they call the police that sometimes the
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police will go to that neighbor say hey
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you know so and so called on you so
[23:55]
because of that I guess that's things
[23:56]
that's happened in the past I don't know
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they feel they cannot report an issue so
[24:00]
is there any way they can report
[24:02]
anonymously let's say the Gary 311 apps
[24:04]
I know I know about it but I don't know
[24:06]
if they do so how do they report issues
[24:08]
anonymously that's the first question
[24:10]
and then keep going Yes.
[24:12]
Okay. Great. Okay. The second concern
[24:14]
had to do with aggressive dog and I must
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compliment Congressman Hallebert and
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he's been very instrumental in assisting
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me in this matter. Jesus name.
[24:23]
The reason being um I don't have any
[24:25]
pets in the house because we have people
[24:27]
with severe allergies. But yet I've been
[24:28]
around dogs and this dog is kind of
[24:31]
different. There's a gate separating us.
[24:33]
However, because we have a detached
[24:34]
garage and I have to walk from the
[24:36]
garage to my house across the patio.
[24:38]
this dog is kind of aggressive when like
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it's trying to rush the gate basically
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and it's drooling what have you. So of
[24:45]
course I brought it to um Councilman
[24:46]
Halleberg's attention. He told me of
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course not too much can be done because
[24:49]
the dog was in the gate. It has to be
[24:52]
out and about. I heard stories but
[24:54]
because I couldn't verify I couldn't do
[24:56]
anything. However, this past Saturday
[25:00]
when I went out and this time stamp on
[25:02]
my phone I was actually about to go out
[25:04]
my front door because I could no longer
[25:06]
park in my garage because of this dog.
[25:08]
So when I went out my front door, I
[25:10]
opened my drakes. That dog was walking
[25:12]
around the neighborhood and he's a very
[25:14]
big dog. So I went ahead, I did the Gary
[25:17]
311 app and also I did report it to my
[25:20]
counselor as well. Um the questions and
[25:22]
comments I have cuz the homeowner, my
[25:25]
mother and I were kind of discussing
[25:27]
this and I hopefully I can find all
[25:29]
these questions. Of course can't find
[25:31]
them when I need.
[25:32]
All right. As far as do we have any laws
[25:34]
and Gary as far as Miss Coleman that's
[25:36]
two minutes but I'll ask our chief of
[25:39]
staff to address the anonymous tip line
[25:42]
as well as reaching out to animal
[25:43]
control during his report.
[25:48]
Mrs. Linda Collins Brown. Welcome.
[25:50]
Thank you.
[25:52]
Good evening council.
[25:54]
I do appreciate the time afforded me to
[25:56]
speak before you today. I do so with a
[25:59]
heavy heart. I'm disappointed and I feel
[26:03]
a little bit of anger. I wish the
[26:05]
council would explain to us the citizens
[26:08]
of Gary and trust me and believe me what
[26:10]
I know that Dr. Vanessa Allen Mloud's
[26:14]
tenure was up. I know all of that and I
[26:17]
do know that the city council has the
[26:19]
right to uh reappoint someone at their
[26:23]
discretion. However, I've been around a
[26:25]
very very long time. been involved with
[26:28]
the Gary school board uh meetings and
[26:31]
taking my children to meetings and the
[26:32]
whole nine yards since the early 80s and
[26:36]
the council the board that we had with
[26:39]
Dr. Vanessa Alan Mloud was by far the
[26:43]
best one that we've had in a very very long time. So I am so extremely
[26:48]
disappointed. You know, the city is
[26:51]
moving forward in the right direction,
[26:53]
and I applaud the mayor and his entire
[26:55]
administration. Our school is getting
[26:57]
back on track and was headed in the
[27:00]
right direction. I think that was a very
[27:02]
poor move. And I do believe now it's
[27:05]
rumored that it was in retaliation
[27:08]
because um a person on the city council
[27:11]
felt the need to complain because they
[27:14]
were parked in an illegal parking spot,
[27:17]
a fire zone and nothing was done about
[27:21]
it. She felt he or she felt the need to
[27:24]
complain because she felt that or he
[27:27]
that it should it's okay, but it isn't.
[27:30]
It's a fire hazard. It's illegal, okay?
[27:34]
And it's wrong. So, we must abide by the
[27:37]
rules and we must set examples for our
[27:39]
young people. And to the young people on
[27:42]
the city council, stand firm with what
[27:44]
you believe to be right. And I support,
[27:48]
you know, us going back, rethinking
[27:50]
this, and then putting Dr. Mloud back on
[27:53]
that board. Thank you. I appreciate the
[27:55]
time.
[27:56]
Thank you, Mrs. College Brown,
[27:59]
Brian, and Bonnie Luick.
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Hi. Hi. My husband stepped out. He had a
[28:11]
tickle in his throat and I don't know
[28:12]
why I signed the paper to talk. We're
[28:14]
just here to get reszoned.
[28:16]
Thank you.
[28:16]
So, thanks for having us.
[28:18]
Thank you.
[28:22]
to everyone who came to speak.
[28:24]
At this time, you will hear our council
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pending ordinances and resolutions on
[28:28]
third and or final read.
[28:35]
CPL 2025-41
[28:38]
or learners of viewing a special use
[28:40]
permit for property located at 1040
[28:43]
North Union Street to be used as a
[28:45]
short-term rental property by
[28:47]
petitioners Jason and Tanya Platt
[28:49]
sponsored by the Arizona department
[28:51]
petition Jason and Tanya Platt 1040
[28:54]
North Street near him
[28:56]
colleagues at this time I'll entertain a
[28:57]
motion for a appro
[29:00]
I'm sorry. Is there a motion on 2022-
[29:07]
attorney Molina is doing the overview?
[29:13]
Good evening, President Leam and council
[29:15]
members. Uh on this uh CPO 2025-41, it
[29:19]
is for a short-term uh rental uh special
[29:22]
use at 1040 North Union Street. Um, as
[29:25]
we discussed at the, uh, committee
[29:27]
meeting, uh, last, uh, this came before
[29:29]
the BZA on June 12th, 2025, and it
[29:33]
received a unanimous vote, uh, to
[29:35]
favorably recommend the grant of a
[29:37]
special use permit. Uh, it had been duly
[29:40]
uh, publicized. Uh, a public hearing was
[29:43]
held. There were no remmonstrators and
[29:46]
the board of zoning appeals felt that
[29:48]
this uh property uh did indeed meet the
[29:51]
seven requirements uh that we have as uh
[29:54]
part of our ordinances uh for a special
[29:57]
use permit to be granted. Um it is zoned
[30:00]
uh residential uh and it will remain as
[30:03]
residential use as a short-term rental
[30:05]
property if it is approved. If there's
[30:08]
any questions certainly happy to
[30:09]
entertain those and the petitioners are
[30:11]
present.
[30:12]
Thank you, Attorney Molina.
[30:15]
Any questions, comments, discussion from
[30:18]
colleagues?
[30:23]
Seeing none, roll call. Madam cler,
[30:37]
we can read. Can you repeat it? it.
[30:39]
We're voting on CPO 2025-41.
[30:43]
Uh yes, it's for a short-term rental uh
[30:45]
special use at 1040 uh North Union
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Street.
[30:50]
And I'll just say um the there's a
[30:53]
motion on the floor.
[31:01]
Does anyone object? I'll just give bit
[31:03]
of an overview. Jason and Tanya Plant
[31:06]
were both Platt were both at the
[31:08]
planning and development
[31:10]
committee meeting. Um I believe this is
[31:13]
the pastor and pastor's wife who bought
[31:15]
a piece of property who will be here
[31:17]
shortterm and plan to retire here once
[31:21]
they retire from their church and the parsonage
[31:25]
the stands.
[31:33]
All right. Roll call. Madam clerk.
[31:35]
Councilwoman Brown.
[31:36]
Yes. Councilwoman Cwell,
[31:38]
pass.
[31:40]
Councilman Hallebert,
[31:41]
yes.
[31:42]
Councilwoman Ivy,
[31:43]
yes.
[31:44]
Councilman Talib,
[31:46]
yes.
[31:46]
Councilman Washington,
[31:48]
yes.
[31:48]
Councilman Wington,
[31:50]
yes.
[31:50]
Councilwoman Cwell,
[31:53]
yes.
[31:54]
President,
[31:55]
yes.
[31:56]
Madam President, vote is 8 to Z.
[31:58]
With a vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-41
[32:02]
is passed in so order. CBO 2025-42
[32:07]
an ordinance for resing property located
[32:09]
at 5339 West 15th Avenue Gary Indiana by
[32:13]
petitioner Robert L. Lewis sponsored by
[32:15]
the Gary plan commission petitioner
[32:18]
Robert L. Lewis on behalf of buying
[32:20]
saving corporate.
[32:22]
Madam President,
[32:23]
Councilman Washington,
[32:24]
I make a motion to refer CPO 2025-42
[32:28]
back to the planning and development
[32:29]
committee
[32:30]
with the meeting scheduled for Tuesday,
[32:33]
August 12th, 2025 at 5:30 p.m. The
[32:37]
petitioner in order the petitioner's
[32:39]
representative show for the planning and
[32:41]
development committee.
[32:43]
Thank you, Council Washington. It's been
[32:45]
moved and second that CPO 2025-42 is
[32:49]
referred back to community to committee.
[32:51]
Roll call. Madam cler.
[32:53]
Councilwoman Brown.
[32:54]
Yes.
[32:55]
Councilwoman Cwell.
[32:56]
Yes.
[32:57]
Councilman Hallebert.
[32:58]
Yes.
[32:59]
Councilwoman Ivy.
[33:00]
Yes.
[33:00]
Councilman Toiver.
[33:02]
Yes.
[33:02]
Councilman Washington.
[33:03]
Yes.
[33:04]
Councilman Weston.
[33:05]
Yes.
[33:06]
And President Leo.
[33:07]
Yes.
[33:07]
Madam President, the vote is 8 to Z.
[33:09]
With a vote of 8 to zero, CPO 2025-42
[33:13]
has been referred back to committee.
[33:16]
CPO 2025-43,
[33:19]
an ordinance for reszoning property
[33:20]
located at 925 North Shelby, Gary,
[33:23]
Indiana by petitioner Brian Luick,
[33:26]
sponsored by Gary Zoning Department.
[33:28]
Petition Brian Lew 925 Shelby Street.
[33:39]
Colleagues, at this time I'll entertain
[33:40]
a motion.
[33:42]
It's been moved by Councilman Lisson.
[33:45]
Second by Councilman Washington.
[33:48]
Overview,
[33:50]
please.
[33:51]
Yes. On the 2025-43,
[33:54]
uh we're dealing with the property at
[33:55]
925 North Shelby Street. Uh, petitioner
[33:58]
Brian Luick has petitioned uh the plan
[34:00]
commission for a reszone. There was a
[34:02]
public hearing held on June 18, 2025.
[34:06]
Um, a unanimous vote uh recommended that
[34:09]
uh the reszone be granted. It's
[34:10]
currently reszoned as a B1. Um, and
[34:14]
they're seeking a reszone to a B3 which
[34:17]
allows for a full service restaurant. U,
[34:19]
that was the issue. Um it did it
[34:21]
basically B1 is limited as a retail
[34:23]
district um more for cafes and things
[34:26]
like that and this is a full service
[34:28]
restaurant. Um at the public hearing uh
[34:31]
there were no remmonstrators against uh
[34:34]
there were two people who showed up to
[34:36]
speak in favor um of having more dining
[34:39]
options in the area. Uh if you recall
[34:41]
Mr. was at the uh committee meeting uh
[34:45]
last and explained his uh vision for the
[34:49]
restaurant. Uh they have complied with
[34:51]
everything that we have asked from the
[34:53]
planning department. Uh there was a
[34:55]
question raised about uh parking and
[34:57]
whether they had enough spots. They do
[34:59]
indeed qualify under our ordinance uh
[35:01]
and do have enough spots. Um, so, uh,
[35:04]
the city, uh, the plan commission is
[35:07]
asking that this, uh, receive a
[35:08]
favorable recommendation from the city
[35:10]
or approval from the, uh, council.
[35:15]
Thank you, Attorney Molina. Any
[35:17]
questions or discussions,
[35:19]
Madam President?
[35:20]
Councilwoman Ivy,
[35:23]
attorney, is the petitioner here?
[35:24]
Yes, sir.
[35:26]
I have a question.
[35:36]
Good evening.
[35:37]
I may have been uh on
[35:39]
travel when we had the committee
[35:41]
meeting. Um were you able to state um
[35:45]
your vision for the restaurant? Like how
[35:47]
much time do you anticipate before the
[35:50]
full service restaurant will be open and
[35:52]
active? Well, due to permits and
[35:54]
whatnot, um, restaurant equipment, we're
[35:56]
shooting for November. So,
[35:58]
of 2025.
[36:00]
Yes. Yes, ma'am.
[36:01]
And what type of, um, restaurant, I
[36:05]
guess I should, pastas, pizza.
[36:07]
So, like more like a formal kind of
[36:09]
dining.
[36:10]
Yeah. Yeah.
[36:10]
Okay.
[36:12]
All right. We'll be checking in
[36:13]
November.
[36:16]
It'll be worth it.
[36:20]
Any
[36:24]
other questions?
[36:26]
Council member.
[36:31]
Any other questions? Discussion.
[36:35]
Seeing none.
[36:36]
Roll call. Madam clerk.
[36:39]
Councilwoman Brown.
[36:40]
Yes.
[36:41]
Councilwoman Cwell.
[36:42]
Yes.
[36:43]
Councilman Hallebert.
[36:45]
Yes.
[36:46]
Councilwoman Ivy.
[36:47]
Yes.
[36:48]
Councilman Oliver.
[36:50]
Yes.
[36:50]
Councilman Washington.
[36:52]
Yes.
[36:52]
Councilman Wington.
[36:54]
Yes.
[36:54]
And President L.
[36:55]
Yes.
[36:56]
Madam President, vote is 8 to Z.
[36:58]
With the vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-43
[37:02]
has passed. And so Madam President
[37:05]
orders and resolutions on 30.
[37:09]
Thank you, Madam Clerk. The time
[37:31]
Okay. Council pending ordinances and
[37:32]
resolutions on second readings.
[37:35]
CPL 2023-44
[37:39]
an orders provided for appropriations in
[37:41]
the building renovations fund for fiscal
[37:43]
year 2026 expenses and forwarded to the
[37:47]
common council for action and passage
[37:50]
pursuant to Indiana code 6-1.1-8-6
[37:56]
sponsored by Mayor Eddie Milton city of
[37:57]
Gary city
[38:00]
colleagues I would like to entertain a
[38:02]
motion to suspend the rules to pass CPO
[38:05]
2025-44
[38:06]
on all three readings.
[38:08]
So move.
[38:10]
Thank you, Councilwoman Ivy. Is there a
[38:12]
second?
[38:13]
Thank you, Councilwoman Brown.
[38:17]
Discussion,
[38:19]
Chief.
[38:23]
Oh, I'm sorry. Not on the No, no, no.
[38:27]
So, um, but can I discuss why?
[38:31]
Um, so this is an appropriation needed
[38:34]
in an emergency manner for the
[38:36]
replacement of the city hall elevator.
[38:39]
Um, as you all know, has been out of
[38:41]
order for months. It's the reason why
[38:44]
we're here in the library. Um, the
[38:47]
elevator, to my understanding, is beyond
[38:49]
repair. It needs to be replaced, which
[38:52]
requires, of course, more money and
[38:54]
additional uh budget appropriation.
[38:57]
uh because of the sensitive nature and I
[38:59]
guess emergency nature of it, we would
[39:01]
like to get the replacement moving as
[39:04]
fast as possible, which is why I'm
[39:06]
requesting that we suspend the rules and
[39:08]
do this on all three readings.
[39:12]
So, roll call on suspension of the
[39:15]
rules.
[39:15]
Councilwoman Brown,
[39:17]
yes.
[39:17]
Councilwoman Cwell,
[39:18]
yes.
[39:19]
Council Hallebert,
[39:20]
yes.
[39:21]
Councilwoman Ivy,
[39:22]
yes.
[39:23]
Councilman Toiver,
[39:24]
yes.
[39:25]
Council Washington,
[39:26]
yes. Council Wington,
[39:32]
president.
[39:33]
Yes.
[39:35]
President.
[39:37]
Thank you. With a vote of 8 to zero, we
[39:40]
have suspended the rules. And now we
[39:44]
need a a motion for passage.
[39:52]
Thank you, Councilwoman Ivy. Is there a
[39:54]
second?
[39:56]
seconded by second by Councilman
[39:58]
Wington.
[39:59]
Now for the overview.
[40:07]
Good evening, Madam President and uh
[40:09]
Steam Council. We thank you for um even
[40:12]
um acknowledging um the issue that we
[40:14]
faced. Um as you know, the city hall uh
[40:17]
elevator um we believe was created or
[40:20]
put in um it's either in the 30s or 40s
[40:23]
had some remodel. Um since then,
[40:26]
however, because of the age of the
[40:28]
building um and the uniqueness of that
[40:31]
elevator that was created, um we have to
[40:33]
have a specially um built elevator um
[40:37]
because our shaft is very small. So, a
[40:39]
unique um elevator or a standard
[40:42]
elevator, excuse me, will not fit our
[40:44]
ele uh elevator shaft. Um so, what we
[40:47]
did is initially the city had been
[40:48]
working with KA um Ko N. Um they have
[40:52]
been working with them multiple
[40:54]
elevators throughout the city, but
[40:56]
because of this emergency in nature, we
[40:57]
wanted to reach out to any other uh
[41:00]
elevator company that exists within the
[41:01]
Chicagoland area. And so, we were able
[41:04]
to make connection with All Types
[41:05]
Elevator. All Types Elevator did come
[41:08]
back uh with a more uh responsible and
[41:12]
lower quote. That quote is attached in
[41:14]
your packet and it's uh uh 20030
[41:19]
$230,000
[41:22]
uh code days uh information. Um if you
[41:25]
don't have it, I can share. I thought it
[41:27]
was attached to the package.
[41:29]
Um I can't reord it to the email. I just
[41:32]
fored it and shared it, but we did
[41:34]
attach it to that original.
[41:35]
I received it via email, but it's not
[41:37]
printed.
[41:38]
Okay.
[41:39]
Does everybody else send it?
[41:40]
And I can send it out right now.
[41:45]
44 is not in here.
[41:49]
The ordinance or just the quote
[41:52]
just
[41:57]
I've seen it. Okay. I've seen it, but
[41:59]
it's not.
[42:00]
I'll let um our public works director
[42:02]
talk a little bit more about the
[42:03]
elevator and the history and things like
[42:05]
that, and I'll make sure I send it out
[42:07]
right now to all of the council.
[42:13]
You got it.
[42:15]
We have the ordinance.
[42:16]
Okay. But just not the attachment,
[42:17]
right?
[42:18]
Okay. He's going to send it right out.
[42:20]
So, excuse me. Good evening. Thank you
[42:23]
uh for hearing us. Uh it is an
[42:26]
emergency. It's been several months
[42:28]
since the elevator has been down in city
[42:31]
hall. Uh which is part of the reason
[42:33]
that we're here in this room tonight. Uh
[42:35]
Ellis is correct because the elevator is
[42:38]
so old. the original build. It's just
[42:41]
difficult to kind of come in. We
[42:43]
actually had a line on an elevator, but
[42:45]
it just simply would not fit. Con has
[42:48]
been servicing our elevators across the
[42:50]
city for the last few years. As far back
[42:52]
as I can tell, I find that their prices
[42:56]
are incredibly high, that they're not
[42:59]
competitive with a lot of other vendors,
[43:02]
specifically all types who this proposal
[43:05]
is from. We have recently brought all
[43:08]
types into our fold this year. They've
[43:10]
been doing some work. Uh, one of the I
[43:13]
won't call it a disadvantage, but
[43:14]
they're not as big of an outfit as Kona,
[43:18]
so we've had some challenges with
[43:19]
scheduling. Uh, they're out of Illinois,
[43:22]
but their price and their work I find to
[43:25]
be comparable, if not better than that, of Kona. So, I'm completely
[43:29]
comfortable with moving forward with
[43:31]
their proposal, which is roughly half of
[43:35]
what was presented by Kona maybe a year
[43:39]
uh a year and a half ago. So, they've
[43:41]
been working toward updating their
[43:44]
proposal and they just haven't done so
[43:46]
yet. But, I would expect that it would
[43:48]
probably come in around a half a million
[43:50]
dollars for and it's not a new elevator.
[43:54]
It's a complete uh kind of a rebuild.
[43:56]
They refer to it as a modernization of
[43:59]
the elevator. So that's kind of where we
[44:01]
are. All types is ready to go. If we
[44:04]
agree on this tonight and to Ellis's
[44:06]
point, it would be about 30 days before
[44:08]
we could bring all the elements um and
[44:11]
all the aspects of it together to start
[44:13]
the work. So thank you
[44:18]
councilwoman Barwell.
[44:22]
I have little understanding you have two
[44:24]
quotes in and all types.
[44:26]
We don't have con they still have not
[44:28]
delivered the quote that we've been
[44:30]
waiting on for about 3 weeks now from
[44:33]
the other vendor. So the only one we
[44:35]
have in hand right now, councilwoman, is
[44:38]
for the one that uh all types. But we
[44:41]
had previously
[44:42]
million.
[44:42]
No, no, this is 230.
[44:44]
But we had previously received a quote I
[44:47]
believe last year, Ellis Labor, or the
[44:49]
year before from Ket and that was coming
[44:53]
in at least double the amount of all
[44:55]
types. So adjusted for inflation and
[44:59]
tariffs, I think we can anticipate that
[45:01]
it would be higher uh even still this
[45:03]
year.
[45:04]
Those are the only two elevator services
[45:06]
in the area.
[45:07]
There are actually there is one other
[45:09]
called South Suburban, but it's a very small operation. It's been a real
[45:14]
challenge. Uh but these are the only
[45:16]
three that I'm aware of and that have
[45:19]
been used uh in our for our city
[45:22]
services over the years.
[45:24]
South Suburban. I be your pardon.
[45:26]
Did you get a quote from them?
[45:27]
No, I don't believe so. I don't think
[45:29]
South Suburban the size of their
[45:30]
operation that they're even prepared to
[45:32]
take on a job of this magnitude.
[45:36]
So, if we were with all types, when
[45:39]
would the project be completed? That's a
[45:42]
great question and I would dare not give
[45:44]
an answer to that tonight, but I could
[45:47]
if we agreed to move forward tonight, I
[45:49]
could certainly get a better timeline
[45:51]
for when we could expect to begin
[45:53]
through completion of the work.
[45:55]
And how much is that again?
[45:57]
230,000 is the amount of the quote.
[46:03]
Oh, Councilman Wington.
[46:04]
Oh, thank you very much. Uh, I want to
[46:06]
impress my hesitency was not with your
[46:08]
work. I'm thoroughly impressed. I mean,
[46:11]
you do amazing work especially with
[46:13]
limitation that we do have. So I do
[46:15]
appreciate you hesitency was excuse me
[46:19]
it's just that I've just now seen the
[46:21]
documentation
[46:22]
um even when we worked with like HUD you
[46:24]
always requested three estimates just to
[46:26]
figure out but I thank you for answering
[46:28]
and talking about the limited scope uh
[46:30]
being the size of the groups and we have
[46:32]
to retrofit the elevator. So my next
[46:34]
question would be since you answered
[46:36]
that the allocation says 337,000
[46:40]
but you said the estimate that we got
[46:41]
today that's all was 230,000.
[46:43]
I'm making sure I'm looking at the most
[46:45]
recent updated.
[46:46]
Yeah, that's that is it. Correct. We're
[46:47]
not going to use additional
[46:48]
appropriation. What we didn't want to do
[46:50]
is find ourselves in a situation where
[46:52]
there's any change order whatsoever
[46:54]
because it is an outdated and a retrofit
[46:57]
which we know have come into play and
[46:58]
then have to come back and ask for it
[47:00]
again for an adjustment. Of course, we
[47:02]
will continue to keep uh Chief of Staff
[47:04]
Brooks as well as council president up
[47:06]
to update the entire council on these
[47:07]
things, but we just wanted to make sure
[47:09]
we had enough room to build in any type
[47:12]
of change whatsoever. So, that was in
[47:15]
regards to it. There's some other
[47:16]
building improvements that needed, but
[47:18]
again, they're not urgent, but they do
[47:19]
comply with ADA. The railing outside, as
[47:22]
you guys have seen, climbed up is shaky.
[47:25]
All of those things that we know we're
[47:27]
working with the council. We appreciate
[47:29]
their support in the uh guaranteed
[47:31]
segments which are going to address a
[47:32]
lot of these things. But the only
[47:34]
emergency tonight is the elevator
[47:36]
because we know the timeline and the
[47:37]
goal is to get the city hall back open.
[47:40]
All of our public meetings including
[47:42]
council of course have been
[47:43]
inconvenenced outside of city hall
[47:45]
because it's not ADA compliant as well
[47:47]
as our staff who right now anybody who
[47:49]
has to we've had to make accommodations
[47:51]
to make sure they can be in law.
[47:53]
No, I appreciate you and thank you for
[47:54]
the explanation. Uh my only concern is
[47:58]
not creating precedence going forward.
[48:00]
And I I don't say this out of
[48:01]
disrespect. Uh I appreciate everything
[48:04]
you're doing. I just really like being
[48:05]
in the know. And I think for the city's
[48:07]
sake, especially as we talk about, you
[48:09]
know, expenditures and we talk about
[48:11]
limited budget, everyone just deserves
[48:13]
to know ahead of time what we're working
[48:15]
with and the full scope of it because
[48:17]
looking at this 337, I appreciate the
[48:19]
explanation. It just comes out of
[48:21]
nowhere. And you ask us today to vote
[48:23]
for it and I'm like I'm looking at my
[48:25]
email. I'm pretty consistent. I haven't
[48:27]
seen anything. So, that was my
[48:29]
onlyation, but I do appreciate you. So,
[48:32]
thank you.
[48:33]
Yeah. Thank you. And let me take
[48:34]
responsibility for that because it was
[48:36]
um I've had it since last week at least
[48:40]
and should have passed it on to my
[48:42]
colleagues.
[48:43]
I appreciate.
[48:43]
So, with travel and everything, that's
[48:46]
something that I didn't do, but I take
[48:48]
responsibility for that.
[48:50]
I appreciate you.
[48:52]
Thank you.
[48:53]
Um, attorney well, Councilman Washington
[48:56]
and then Attorney Williams.
[48:57]
Yeah. My question,
[48:59]
have we
[49:01]
provided an estimate for some type of
[49:03]
chair lift coming from the parking lot
[49:06]
up the steps to city hall?
[49:08]
So, so, so let me say this. In order to
[49:11]
get our building truly, honestly, it is
[49:13]
a fair question.
[49:14]
And the reason why I asked that, chief
[49:15]
of staff, is that we got some money
[49:18]
that's available and those stairs ain't
[49:20]
no joke. And I know not only with
[49:22]
Councilwoman Brown, but other people in
[49:24]
the public have problems going up those
[49:26]
stairs.
[49:27]
So our ADA, to answer your question, our
[49:29]
ADA route, Fort City Hall technically is
[49:32]
an ADA ramp. You take the sidewalk to
[49:34]
the ramp on the west side of the
[49:37]
building,
[49:38]
down that ramp into the basement, and
[49:39]
the elevator will go to whatever floor
[49:42]
you need in this ADA assessment. The
[49:44]
problem with that is that we've now
[49:46]
fixed that door. So the handicap button
[49:49]
works. We got that taken care of with
[49:50]
the appropriations we already have. So,
[49:53]
at least that door works, but now our
[49:54]
elevator's out. Um, also, like I just
[49:56]
mentioned, the railing, even not being
[49:59]
ADA, that railing, I would dare to have
[50:02]
a person grab onto that railing in this
[50:04]
current state. We've already got
[50:05]
estimates for that. Um, I'm happy to
[50:07]
share that with the council. Again, we
[50:09]
have enough appropriations thankfully
[50:11]
for that because it's deemed situation,
[50:14]
but I don't think a chairlift would be
[50:16]
necessary, okay,
[50:17]
for that. If it it has a ADA route,
[50:19]
should our elevator be up to par?
[50:21]
So we get that elevator straight to ADA.
[50:24]
Correct. We are now back into ADA
[50:25]
compliance. We we did in this we
[50:28]
assessed again. CO took a lot of things
[50:30]
out of plas shame to any other previous
[50:33]
administration or what the resources
[50:34]
were, but a lot of our buildings did not
[50:36]
have up-to-date coded elevators. So all
[50:40]
of our elevators were inspected at this
[50:41]
point under u um director um Morgan
[50:45]
Caesar's leadership. So Hudson and
[50:47]
Campbell is good. The Marquette Park is
[50:51]
good. Health department is good. Um uh
[50:54]
police department is almost there but
[50:56]
getting there. Uh but again we don't
[50:58]
need additional appropriations in
[51:00]
regards to those because they are good.
[51:02]
Their repairs were within scope. Never
[51:05]
none of them roll to six figures.
[51:07]
Thank you.
[51:09]
Councilman Washington.
[51:12]
Um, yes, Councilwoman Ivy and then
[51:15]
Councilman Oliver. Councilman Oliver.
[51:17]
Yeah, I just had a quick question. So,
[51:19]
with these repairs, what's the
[51:20]
longevity? What's the life expectancy?
[51:22]
Because I know you said that this is a
[51:23]
was built in the 30s and 40s. So, with
[51:25]
this, are we looking at that the
[51:27]
elevator is not going to have any issues
[51:29]
for what, the next 10 or 15 years? Maint
[51:34]
with this package includes the warranty
[51:35]
and maintenance plan. So what we've
[51:37]
already communicated with now is ongoing
[51:39]
maintenance schedules both for HVAC but
[51:42]
also with our elevators. So they'll come
[51:44]
out and do routine maintenance and of
[51:46]
course bar any
[51:49]
foreseen situation it'll be covered
[51:51]
under warranty all of our belts motors u
[51:54]
essentials. Again uh we don't want to
[51:56]
set expectations unreasonable. So this
[51:58]
does not change the cart. Cart is fine.
[52:01]
I would have loved to just swap out the
[52:02]
whole cart for this price. Um but
[52:04]
unfortunately again our elevator shaft
[52:07]
is small. So, a standard cart to
[52:09]
purchase doesn't fit. We tried that
[52:11]
route already. Um, and so we can't we
[52:13]
have to they're going to modernize all
[52:14]
of it. So, all of that's going to be in.
[52:16]
So, to answer your question, it'll all
[52:18]
be covered under warranty should there
[52:20]
be any issues.
[52:23]
Councilwoman ID.
[52:25]
Well, that was part of my question. My
[52:27]
next question uh would be you stated
[52:31]
that KA
[52:33]
um had not come in with their proposal
[52:35]
yet. No.
[52:36]
So, if you have all of this information
[52:39]
from all types, does that mean that
[52:41]
proposals are closed? Was there a due
[52:42]
date? Are you still going to evaluate
[52:45]
both or are we pretty much set on using
[52:49]
all types of elevators?
[52:50]
So, because it is an emergency and this
[52:53]
was not an official bid in terms of
[52:55]
receiving quotes. If we get one from
[52:58]
Kone, I'm saying within the next 24
[53:00]
hours, we've literally been waiting for
[53:02]
weeks. We'll look at it, but I know it's
[53:04]
going to be at least twice this amount
[53:06]
for the same scope of work.
[53:08]
Madam President, so how does that work
[53:10]
with a vote on the floor right now for
[53:12]
this ordinance? How does that work for
[53:13]
this conference?
[53:14]
Correct me if I'm wrong, Attorney
[53:16]
Williams, but we're just approving the
[53:17]
budget appropriation. We're just making
[53:20]
the money
[53:20]
with whomever, right? They would like
[53:24]
South Suburban
[53:24]
from South Suburban
[53:27]
from anyone. And I I would just
[53:30]
interject here before Attorney Williams
[53:32]
speaks.
[53:35]
There are a lot of things that I would
[53:39]
shop for and buy and price would
[53:42]
probably be the number one criteria.
[53:46]
Paint, chairs, tables, carpet. I may go
[53:51]
with the lowest price. I'm not
[53:53]
necessarily comfortable with just
[53:57]
getting the cheapest
[53:58]
That's right.
[53:59]
elevator. Get Yeah, getting on an
[54:02]
elevator requires a tremendous amount of
[54:05]
trust. So um I would ask that you know
[54:10]
we be diligent in making sure that
[54:14]
whoever we pick has that they're
[54:16]
reference they have references
[54:19]
reputation and quality of of work
[54:24]
because again um for something like an
[54:26]
elevator safety accessibility
[54:29]
for sure
[54:30]
um even the maintenance plan warranty I
[54:33]
think those are things that would
[54:35]
warrant us even paying more.
[54:37]
Yes.
[54:38]
Just to sleep at night than than just
[54:42]
the cheapest price. Attorney Williams.
[54:45]
Yes. Thank you. I I I think Miss Caesar
[54:47]
did a good job clearing it up. We we use
[54:49]
the word be it in quotes interchangeably
[54:51]
and they're not.
[54:52]
Um this would have triggered a bid
[54:54]
requirement given the amount of money.
[54:57]
Uh but it is an ADA violation and it
[54:59]
definitely qualifies as an emergency. So
[55:01]
they're not required to get the standard
[55:03]
three bids that they otherwise would
[55:05]
have been required to do because of the
[55:08]
ADA violation that the chief of staff
[55:10]
has pointed out. So rest assured we are
[55:13]
within the statute's authority. Um I
[55:16]
think we probably waited a little too
[55:17]
long. We probably should have brought in
[55:18]
sooner but it still nevertheless I think
[55:21]
satisfies an emergency and the one bid
[55:24]
would suffice. This is definitely not a
[55:26]
quote situation. This is a be situation.
[55:30]
Just wanted to clear that up.
[55:31]
Thank you. Former public works director,
[55:34]
attorney,
[55:36]
Williams.
[55:37]
But I take your point, um, Madame
[55:38]
President, with regard to the quality
[55:41]
and not being fixed on price
[55:43]
exclusively.
[55:44]
I know K has a a reputation. I think
[55:47]
they're a national, if not international
[55:50]
firm. Can you speak to all types
[55:53]
elevators, the work that they've done
[55:54]
for us?
[55:55]
The work that they've done.
[55:56]
Uh, can't speak to their regional work.
[55:58]
I can do more homework on them. But the
[56:00]
work that they've done for us in our
[56:02]
buildings has been more than
[56:05]
satisfactory and they were actually
[56:07]
given and I'm actually kind of curious
[56:09]
when we do receive the KA quote because
[56:11]
I suspect we will get it eventually but
[56:14]
it's for the exact same scope of work.
[56:16]
So sometimes uh nationally or
[56:19]
internationally recognized companies the
[56:21]
additional cost is for that recognition.
[56:25]
So, while we don't have money to pay
[56:27]
double just because of their name, we
[56:30]
are certainly looking for uh comparable
[56:33]
um services or outcomes.
[56:37]
Thank you. Any other questions,
[56:40]
comments, discussion?
[56:42]
Yes, Councilman Wington.
[56:43]
Thank you, Madam President. Thank you,
[56:48]
Attorney app. My question is uh why
[56:52]
don't we allocate half a million dollars
[56:53]
now? I mean if we if you're going to
[56:56]
expect it's going to be half a million
[56:57]
to get it done right and then just throw
[56:59]
the uh the rails in there as well.
[57:02]
So um our deputy controller is present.
[57:06]
Um and I have to say that because our uh
[57:09]
before controller green left um she made
[57:12]
sure that the appropriations in which
[57:14]
they where they came from was
[57:15]
appropriate. Um, and so I would have to
[57:18]
defer that to our deputy controller to
[57:20]
make sure where we're pulling the
[57:21]
appropriations from,
[57:23]
okay,
[57:23]
the money exists. That's all.
[57:25]
So I I appreciate that, though.
[57:28]
Um, but I and I assure you we won't
[57:29]
spend more than we have to, but um,
[57:32]
you can use Councilman Wisson's credit
[57:34]
cards, too.
[57:35]
Name it the Wiston
[57:38]
elevator.
[57:39]
People move.
[57:43]
Um, good evening, council. I would
[57:45]
definitely have to go back and look at
[57:48]
some more numbers to try to pull some
[57:50]
more finances for that piece.
[57:52]
Okay.
[57:52]
Yeah.
[57:53]
Thank you. I appreciate you.
[58:00]
Thank you, Councilman Wington.
[58:02]
Any other questions, comments,
[58:04]
discussion?
[58:06]
If not, the motion on the floor is for
[58:08]
passage.
[58:09]
Roll call. Madam Clerk, Housewoman,
[58:12]
yes.
[58:14]
Councilwoman
[58:15]
Yes.
[58:16]
Councilman Hallebert.
[58:17]
Yes.
[58:18]
Councilwoman Ivy.
[58:19]
Yes.
[58:20]
Councilman Tower.
[58:21]
Yes.
[58:22]
Councilman Washington.
[58:23]
Yes.
[58:24]
Councilman Wizington.
[58:25]
Yes.
[58:26]
President.
[58:27]
Yes.
[58:27]
Madam President, vote is 8 to Z.
[58:29]
With the vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-44
[58:33]
has passed on all three readings.
[58:39]
CPO 2025-45.
[58:42]
in order to establishing a fund for the
[58:45]
city of Gary and Hard Rock Casino
[58:47]
matches for Lake County Convention
[58:49]
Center and providing for additional
[58:51]
appropriations in casino operating fund
[58:54]
for the fiscal year 2025 expenses and
[58:57]
forwarded to the county council for
[58:59]
action and passage pursuant to Indiana
[59:01]
code 6-1.1-8-6
[59:06]
counciloman Brown I move for passage of
[59:08]
CPL 202245
[59:12]
on Second reading with the finance
[59:14]
committee meeting on Monday, August the
[59:17]
18th at 5:00 p.m.
[59:37]
She said Tuesday.
[59:40]
No, she said Monday the 18th.
[59:54]
I'm okay.
[1:00:07]
That's when you guys
[1:00:10]
That's the preference.
[1:00:11]
Well, the reason why I said that because
[1:00:13]
the the presentation, we saw the
[1:00:15]
presentation and it's kind of lengthy
[1:00:18]
um for the comprehensive plan. So, I
[1:00:21]
want them to be able to have as much
[1:00:23]
room as possible to have questions asked
[1:00:26]
by council members regarding plan.
[1:00:27]
That's only reason.
[1:00:31]
Yeah.
[1:00:32]
So, can you do the 12?
[1:00:35]
I mean, do you think there's time to do
[1:00:37]
both?
[1:00:38]
Whatever you say, ma'am.
[1:00:39]
I mean, I'm 12 is fine.
[1:00:41]
I'm okay with doing the 12.
[1:00:43]
She said the 18.
[1:00:45]
That's okay.
[1:01:02]
Miss Lane,
[1:01:04]
the library available on the 18th.
[1:01:15]
Tuesday if that's okay. It's easy. We
[1:01:18]
already have
[1:01:20]
Tuesday the 12th at 5:00.
[1:01:24]
Okay.
[1:01:31]
It's been moved to second. Roll call.
[1:01:32]
Madam clerk.
[1:01:33]
Councilwoman Brown.
[1:01:35]
Yes.
[1:01:35]
Councilwoman Cwell.
[1:01:36]
Yes.
[1:01:37]
Councilman Hallebert.
[1:01:38]
Yes.
[1:01:39]
Councilwoman Ivy.
[1:01:40]
Yes.
[1:01:40]
Councilman Toiver.
[1:01:42]
Yes.
[1:01:42]
Councilman Washington.
[1:01:43]
Yes.
[1:01:44]
Councilman Lington.
[1:01:45]
Yes. and President Le.
[1:01:46]
Yes.
[1:01:47]
Madam President, vote is 8 to Z.
[1:01:49]
Thank you. With the vote of 8 to Z, CPO
[1:01:52]
2025-45
[1:01:53]
passes on second reading with the
[1:01:56]
finance committee meeting on
[1:01:59]
Tuesday, August the 12th at 5:00 p.m.
[1:02:03]
Thank you for your patience with us,
[1:02:05]
Councilwoman Brown.
[1:02:07]
CPO 2025-46
[1:02:10]
and orders providing for transfer
[1:02:12]
appropriations between series for the
[1:02:14]
Gary city court for the fiscal year 2025
[1:02:18]
budget and forwarded to the common
[1:02:19]
council for action and passage pursuant
[1:02:22]
to Indiana code 6-1.1-8-6
[1:02:26]
sponsored by Mayor Eddie Melton city of
[1:02:28]
Gary Sel city controller and jud judge
[1:02:31]
DBL court
[1:02:34]
counciloman Brown.
[1:02:35]
I move for passage of CPL 202546
[1:02:40]
on second reading with the finance
[1:02:42]
committee meeting on Tuesday, August
[1:02:44]
12th at 5:00 p.m.
[1:02:47]
Second.
[1:02:48]
It's been moved and second. Roll call.
[1:02:50]
Madam clerk.
[1:02:52]
Councilwoman Brown.
[1:02:53]
Yes.
[1:02:54]
Councilwoman Cwell.
[1:02:56]
Yes.
[1:02:56]
Councilman Hallebert.
[1:02:57]
Yes.
[1:02:58]
Councilwoman Ivy.
[1:02:59]
Yes.
[1:03:00]
Councilman Toiver,
[1:03:01]
yes.
[1:03:02]
Councilman Washington,
[1:03:03]
yes.
[1:03:05]
And President,
[1:03:07]
yes.
[1:03:07]
Madam President, the vote is 8 to Z.
[1:03:09]
With a vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-46
[1:03:13]
pass on second reading.
[1:03:15]
Madam President, resolutions on second
[1:03:18]
reading.
[1:03:18]
Thank you, Madam Clerk. At this time,
[1:03:20]
we'll have reports and questions of city
[1:03:22]
officials.
[1:03:25]
Councilwoman Barcelo
[1:03:34]
my question. Um, I know that we uh hired
[1:03:39]
gay contracts out to
[1:03:43]
grass cutters.
[1:03:46]
What's the process? Because I've
[1:03:48]
requested some lots be cut. Uh, they
[1:03:52]
haven't been cut. U one particular lot
[1:03:56]
code enforcement told me who the lot
[1:03:59]
belonged to which was two of the lots
[1:04:03]
half of a block office redevelopment
[1:04:05]
owned a couple private citizens of
[1:04:08]
others that weren't in the area. My
[1:04:10]
question was can we go ahead and site
[1:04:13]
those people who own it and do whatever.
[1:04:16]
The contractor came out and cut two lots
[1:04:19]
and left the rest. It looks a mess. Um
[1:04:22]
I'm tired of citizens asking me why the
[1:04:24]
grass can't get cut, why it's this high.
[1:04:27]
And like I said, I even a block club
[1:04:30]
asked me, they're having an event. Can you get the grass cut for us? I put
[1:04:35]
the request in and the grass is still as
[1:04:38]
tall as I am.
[1:04:39]
Yes. Thank you, Councilwoman, for that
[1:04:41]
question. Um, in reference to what you
[1:04:43]
just referenced, um, we have if it's
[1:04:45]
city-owned property, um, and or any
[1:04:48]
other, uh, municipal or government
[1:04:50]
entity property, of course, we should
[1:04:52]
take care of our own, period. There's no
[1:04:54]
questions or debate about that. So, if
[1:04:56]
you bring any others to our attention,
[1:04:58]
myself or, uh, chief operating officer,
[1:05:00]
Mr. Subs, we have to see him get right
[1:05:02]
on that. Um, in regards to privately
[1:05:05]
owned properties, um, you may by public
[1:05:08]
information seem that the city can be
[1:05:10]
held liable for going on private
[1:05:12]
property without a judge order or
[1:05:14]
permission from that owner to cut in at
[1:05:17]
her site. And so, we're just following
[1:05:19]
the process when they go out on a site,
[1:05:22]
understand that it's then assigned to
[1:05:23]
court. Then, from there, um, if they
[1:05:26]
appear at that first court hearing, um,
[1:05:29]
the judge will, and I appreciate Judge
[1:05:30]
Monroe, she has been acting on those,
[1:05:32]
uh, individuals very promptly but if
[1:05:35]
they don't then there's a requirement
[1:05:37]
legally for them to perfect service to
[1:05:39]
that individual which only delays it. We
[1:05:42]
understand it is very frustrating. Uh
[1:05:44]
trust me um I just wanted to go on and
[1:05:47]
cut some myself because it is
[1:05:49]
unacceptable. Um I understand that Mayor
[1:05:52]
Milton stresses the need to keep our
[1:05:54]
city as clean as possible. Um, and so I
[1:05:57]
just ask you to stay uh work working
[1:06:00]
with us in regards to just getting on
[1:06:02]
top of it. Again, I tell you all the
[1:06:03]
time, you never bug us. Continue to ask,
[1:06:06]
continue to press and we'll do our best
[1:06:09]
to try to fast line fasttrack that
[1:06:12]
process as quickly as we can, but if
[1:06:14]
nothing else, give you an answer on the
[1:06:15]
status.
[1:06:23]
Madam Chair,
[1:06:24]
Councilman Washington,
[1:06:25]
um I wanted to ask um if the
[1:06:30]
administration had a stance on Airbnbs
[1:06:33]
and this is why I asked this. Um,
[1:06:36]
I'm for home ownership and renting for
[1:06:39]
home ownership,
[1:06:41]
but since I've been on the council,
[1:06:42]
we've had a plethora, a large amount of
[1:06:46]
Airbnbs come through the council,
[1:06:48]
especially in the first district. And I
[1:06:51]
want to make sure that we are aware that
[1:06:53]
I want to make sure, maybe this is
[1:06:55]
something that Miss Sharp can work with
[1:06:57]
you all on to see. I want the city as we
[1:07:00]
begin to rise and begin to have
[1:07:02]
opportunities and jobs. I want people to
[1:07:05]
be able to rent or either to home have a
[1:07:08]
home that they can own as compared to
[1:07:12]
renting an Airbnb. And I'm hoping
[1:07:17]
that certain parts of the city does not
[1:07:19]
come vacation destination spots because
[1:07:22]
people have bought a lot of property and
[1:07:24]
they are just using them as Airbnb. I
[1:07:27]
know me and Hollbert would love
[1:07:29]
ownership, home ownership from renters
[1:07:32]
in the second. I know Marian would like
[1:07:34]
it in the fourth, Miss Brown in the
[1:07:37]
third, was in the bronze pile,
[1:07:38]
especially in the fifth, which is a
[1:07:40]
large portion. And um we've had a
[1:07:44]
discussion we haven't finalized, but the
[1:07:47]
concern is about the Airbnbs just and I
[1:07:49]
know this is something that they did
[1:07:51]
downstate, but we want to make sure that
[1:07:54]
um we are not literally
[1:07:57]
pricing people out or pushing people out
[1:08:00]
of eventually as the beginning begin as
[1:08:02]
the city begins to bring more
[1:08:04]
development, more business, jobs that
[1:08:08]
people are not able to actually live in
[1:08:10]
the community that they're working in.
[1:08:14]
Um, so I'll take that back again. I
[1:08:17]
think that, um, if you go back and
[1:08:20]
replay some of those planning and zoning
[1:08:22]
meetings, um, a lot of these have
[1:08:25]
existed in our community for quite some
[1:08:27]
time.
[1:08:29]
What I will speak to is that I believe
[1:08:31]
we have as a collective um the council
[1:08:34]
as well as our team has done a good job
[1:08:36]
of telling people on what they need to
[1:08:38]
do to comply with the law and we're just
[1:08:40]
starting to see it come to fruition.
[1:08:41]
It's the same with the daycarees.
[1:08:43]
They've been there. Um we've just been
[1:08:45]
very diligent thanks to our code team
[1:08:48]
council knocking on doors, our planning
[1:08:50]
and development team. um they've just
[1:08:52]
been consistent about answering those
[1:08:54]
calls and tell people what they need to
[1:08:55]
do to become compliant, talking to state
[1:08:58]
um individuals and it's helping us
[1:09:00]
police that a little bit better. Um as a
[1:09:02]
far as far as an ad an official
[1:09:04]
statement, I believe that should come
[1:09:06]
best from the mayor um who sets the
[1:09:08]
vision for the entire administration and
[1:09:10]
our team um on how we path a treasure
[1:09:14]
pathway for in regards to these. Um it'd
[1:09:17]
be hard to blanket and say what the
[1:09:20]
process can be. Um but to speak to also
[1:09:22]
your point of Airbnbs in other
[1:09:24]
communities, there's an Airbnb that was
[1:09:27]
a surprise to myself and the chief of
[1:09:28]
police um recently in the fourth
[1:09:30]
district um she just left but in the
[1:09:33]
fourth district um that right by
[1:09:35]
Palaskki school and I was actually
[1:09:37]
shocked and it has very positive glowing
[1:09:40]
reviews on it. Um um but um they exist I
[1:09:44]
think a lot more than if you go on
[1:09:46]
Airbnb or Verbbo and put in um you'll
[1:09:49]
see there's probably more than what we
[1:09:51]
realized. We're just seeing all of these
[1:09:53]
people starting to become compliant. Um,
[1:09:55]
so I do think we work together like
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we've done so far this entire process
[1:10:00]
since 2024 on what is best and the ones
[1:10:04]
that won't comply, of course, they
[1:10:06]
should not be within our city because
[1:10:08]
they have to first get the zoning
[1:10:09]
approvals and the special use permits.
[1:10:12]
Um, and then go from there in regards to
[1:10:15]
at least addressing those that are not
[1:10:17]
going to be good stewards in the
[1:10:18]
neighborhood. those are the ones that
[1:10:19]
hurt our neighbors uh our neighborhoods
[1:10:21]
the most our neighbors and the residents
[1:10:23]
of Gary and so I think that's the first
[1:10:25]
start um as we move forward. So, and
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I'll make sure I get an official um
[1:10:30]
perspective from the mayor.
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And chief of staff, it's not really
[1:10:34]
asking for a perspective, but just
[1:10:36]
something to think about as we go
[1:10:38]
forward because I know we have a lot of
[1:10:40]
contractors in the city that would like
[1:10:42]
to rehab homes and sell them and to rent
[1:10:45]
them and eventually people can become
[1:10:47]
home owners. And I believe as the first
[1:10:52]
district begins to be airbed out, it's
[1:10:55]
going to spread across into
[1:10:57]
other cities if we don't get these other
[1:11:00]
properties rehabbed or built so they can
[1:11:03]
people can actually become homeowners.
[1:11:05]
And it's to a certain extent it's it's
[1:11:08]
about supply and demand and you really
[1:11:10]
can't make people not use their property
[1:11:13]
for a certain and as long as they're
[1:11:15]
paying property taxes because they pay a
[1:11:17]
different tax bracket that benefits the
[1:11:18]
city. But from the standpoint of council
[1:11:21]
members and the home ownership, um it's
[1:11:23]
always great um to have homeowners or
[1:11:26]
renters living in the community. Thank
[1:11:28]
you. Um Mr. Chief of Staff,
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thank you, Councilman Washington. I'll
[1:11:32]
just speak briefly on the first district
[1:11:34]
and the short-term rentals um in saying
[1:11:38]
that I've actually I can only speak to
[1:11:41]
my experience. I haven't heard a lot of
[1:11:44]
um I haven't gotten the same amount of
[1:11:46]
complaints this summer as I have gotten
[1:11:48]
it in previous summers. Um a the
[1:11:51]
proliferation I guess of short-term
[1:11:54]
rentals came during COVID and shortly
[1:11:58]
after CO when
[1:12:00]
there were limited travel options. Um,
[1:12:04]
since then, and again, I used to live in
[1:12:06]
between two short-term rentals on either
[1:12:08]
side, and both of them have gotten out
[1:12:11]
of the short-term rental business. Um,
[1:12:14]
I'll say a couple of things. One, all
[1:12:16]
short all Airbnbs are not the same. When
[1:12:19]
the owner lives locally, a lot of
[1:12:21]
residents in the first district also
[1:12:23]
have other properties that are Airbnbs.
[1:12:26]
They take a lot more care. They're in
[1:12:28]
the properties more often. there are
[1:12:30]
certain rules that they can implement
[1:12:32]
even on the platform saying no local
[1:12:35]
renters. They're more diligent about who
[1:12:37]
they accept as renters because they're
[1:12:40]
in and out of the property more often.
[1:12:42]
Um so those tend to be better as opposed
[1:12:47]
to um owners. I think at the last
[1:12:49]
meeting Councilman Wington talked about
[1:12:51]
these larger outfits that have a larger
[1:12:55]
portfolio of properties. So the owner
[1:12:58]
may not necessarily be local. They may
[1:13:00]
have 10 or 12 even on the platform and a
[1:13:04]
handful of them are in the first
[1:13:05]
district. That's a little different. Um
[1:13:07]
also
[1:13:12]
it must not have been important because
[1:13:13]
it left line.
[1:13:15]
Thank you Councilman Washington.
[1:13:19]
It happens. All the middle-aged women
[1:13:22]
out there know.
[1:13:24]
So, um, just a couple updates and I
[1:13:26]
won't be long. Um, just to answer the
[1:13:28]
question that was posed a little
[1:13:30]
earlier, um, the city of Gary, Gary
[1:13:32]
Police Department does have an anonymous
[1:13:34]
text to tip line. You can also, um, send
[1:13:37]
those information anonymously to the
[1:13:39]
Gary Police Department. So, our text to
[1:13:41]
tip line is 2192078477.
[1:13:47]
That's 219207
[1:13:50]
tips. Um, you can text that line 247. It
[1:13:54]
does go through anonymously. Um, they
[1:13:56]
may sometimes respond and ask follow-up
[1:13:59]
questions, but none of your information
[1:14:01]
is captured other than those anonymous
[1:14:04]
tips. There's also a various number of
[1:14:06]
emails that you can see on our city of
[1:14:08]
Gary website that you can send those
[1:14:10]
anonymous tips to. We always encourage
[1:14:12]
people if you feel like something's
[1:14:14]
going on, call 911. You can say, "I
[1:14:17]
don't want to give my name." And they'll
[1:14:18]
say, "Thank you." That's how it works.
[1:14:21]
You can also call the non-emergency
[1:14:22]
number 2196606000000000000
[1:14:27]
our police chief um who Derek Cannon who
[1:14:30]
you can talk to or our fire chief they
[1:14:32]
will tell you you're not a bug. We do
[1:14:35]
not mind. It is our job. It is our
[1:14:38]
service to come out and service the
[1:14:40]
public and we do it proudly. Um Miss uh
[1:14:42]
Mayor Meltton has talked about the
[1:14:44]
initiative that he put before our
[1:14:46]
administration and the acronym is I
[1:14:48]
serve. We serve our community. So,
[1:14:50]
please, it's never hesitant. I don't
[1:14:53]
care if you thought you heard gunshots
[1:14:54]
and it was fireworks. That's fine. Call
[1:14:57]
it in. It is our job to look at it and
[1:14:59]
make sure it's not a gunshot because you
[1:15:02]
never know. You may have called
[1:15:03]
something that we did not know and it
[1:15:05]
helps us land a case. Um, and to that
[1:15:07]
point, I wanted to share a release that
[1:15:11]
just came out today. Um, that was shared
[1:15:13]
with all of the council in the community
[1:15:15]
and you'll probably see it in your local
[1:15:16]
paper tomorrow. Um, we released the
[1:15:19]
midyear numbers and Chief Canon has
[1:15:21]
shared this at Councilman Hallebertton's
[1:15:24]
uh uh uh committee meeting, I'm sorry,
[1:15:26]
uh community meeting along with
[1:15:28]
Councilman Tolliver. Um the midyear
[1:15:31]
numbers from January 1 to uh uh 2025 to
[1:15:34]
June 30th, 2025, we are down 55%
[1:15:39]
in homicides. 55% in homicides compared
[1:15:43]
to this time last year. I think that's
[1:15:46]
amazing.
[1:15:50]
It also shares additional data on that report that will come out that
[1:15:54]
there's a 8.4% rise in patrols. Um that we had a 49% decline in nonvatal
[1:16:05]
overdoses. That is what the work is
[1:16:08]
happening in our community that we are
[1:16:10]
having less people overdose. Almost 50%
[1:16:13]
decline in overdoses. 33% down in fatal
[1:16:16]
traffic accidents, a 26% decline in
[1:16:19]
non-fatal shootings, and they have a 88%
[1:16:23]
homicide saw rate.
[1:16:25]
88%
[1:16:29]
the national average is 57%.
[1:16:32]
So to put that in perspective, they are
[1:16:35]
way surpassing the national average. I
[1:16:39]
say that to say that don't let the
[1:16:41]
people out there persuade you to think
[1:16:43]
that good things are not happening in
[1:16:45]
our community. They are. The our men and
[1:16:47]
women of public safety are kicking tail.
[1:16:50]
And so because of that, if you don't
[1:16:51]
believe me, come asking yourself. They
[1:16:53]
will be there tomorrow at our national
[1:16:55]
night out. You can come and join us
[1:16:57]
tomorrow beginning at 5:00 p. p.m. at
[1:17:00]
the Gary Railcat Stadium. It is a free
[1:17:03]
event. Bring your children, bring your
[1:17:05]
loved ones. Everybody can come and enjoy
[1:17:07]
a great night engaging with our public
[1:17:10]
safety officials. Um, we ask you to ask
[1:17:12]
them about this data. Ask them about the
[1:17:14]
smoke alarms they're coming install in
[1:17:16]
your home. Ask them about the run times
[1:17:18]
that they're doing. They are working
[1:17:19]
night and day to make our city make us
[1:17:21]
proud of for our city. And so we
[1:17:23]
appreciate them. We appreciate the
[1:17:25]
council for pivoting um to move your
[1:17:27]
council meeting to tonight. We don't
[1:17:29]
take that lightly. we could have had to
[1:17:31]
choose between the two, but um and in
[1:17:33]
the spirit of collaboration that's been
[1:17:35]
all so much, you guys were happy to make
[1:17:38]
this adjustment. And so on behalf of
[1:17:39]
Mayor Wilson, we just thank you for
[1:17:41]
that. Um and then the last thing I want
[1:17:43]
to put out there is that if you are not
[1:17:46]
already planning to this weekend,
[1:17:48]
please, please make your way down to our
[1:17:50]
lovely beach for our 2025 Gary Air Show.
[1:17:55]
The air show right now, the weather is
[1:17:57]
looking amazing, y'all. We are expecting
[1:18:00]
rain for the first time in three years.
[1:18:04]
So, we encourage everybody come out.
[1:18:06]
Please um enjoy. This is your city. You
[1:18:09]
deserve to enjoy it. The Thunderbirds
[1:18:10]
are the headliner this year and they're
[1:18:12]
so hard to get. Um they are expecting
[1:18:14]
it. If you see or hear planes flying
[1:18:17]
across your head on Thursday and Friday,
[1:18:21]
that is their test runs. There is no
[1:18:22]
emergency or no war going on. That is
[1:18:25]
just them practicing. But the official
[1:18:28]
air show is Saturday and Sunday. So we
[1:18:31]
encourage you all to come enjoy it. We
[1:18:33]
do have a space where you can sit down
[1:18:35]
and enjoy some of our council who will
[1:18:38]
be there in a tent that's right outside
[1:18:40]
the aquarium for our council and some of
[1:18:42]
our city officials who will sit there
[1:18:44]
and engage with our public um to also
[1:18:47]
just enjoy a great evening and a great
[1:18:49]
couple days out. So again, on behalf of
[1:18:51]
Mayor Milton, we just thank you for your
[1:18:53]
continued partnership and the residents
[1:18:56]
for just always being so gracious to us.
[1:18:59]
Thank you.
[1:18:59]
Chief. If there aren't any
[1:19:02]
other questions,
[1:19:04]
comments for city officials,
[1:19:08]
I entertain a motion for adjournment.
[1:19:24]
Excellent.