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Did you guys just hear a little?
>> Yeah.
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» Okay. It is 6 o'clock and I'd like to
call the August 10th, 2026 city of
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Geneva City Council meeting to order.
Uh, can I have a roll call, please?
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» Bravo
>> here.
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» Rose
>> here.
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» Michael
>> here.
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» Here.
>> Okay. Please stand for the pledge of
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allegiance followed by a prayer by
pastor Elijah Fowler from the new life
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assembly of
the flag of the United States of America
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and to the republic for which it stands.
One nation under God, indivisible with
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liberty and justice for all.
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» Father God, we thank you for today and
uh just the the great summer you've
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given us. Um we're thankful for uh this
great city that we live in. I pray for
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this um elected officials that we have
here. I just pray that you will help
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them to make good decisions for us and
and help us help them to be wise on
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their decisions. Um and just bless them
in their their servantthood serving the
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city. And we pray for the um emergency,
the police, fire department, and
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ambulance services around. We just pray
that you'll protect them and keep them
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safe as they they risk their lives for
us in Jesus name.
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Thank you.
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» Okay, first up is the approval of
minutes from our regular council meeting
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at July 13, 2026. Uh were there any
issues or corrections from the minutes?
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Okay, seeing none, can I have a motion
to approve the minutes?
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» So move.
>> Roll call, please.
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» Rose,
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» yes. Yes.
>> Sh. Yes.
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» Yes.
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» Okay. Today we have a presentation. Um
really looking forward to this one by uh
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Mr. Randy Nullles from the North Coast
Rockets Ultmobile Group. So floor is
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yours, sir.
>> Good evening everyone. It's an honor to
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be here. Um, I dress tonight as a
likeness of arols, not related at all.
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And, uh, I'll give you a little bit of a
history here. Uh, Ashabula, my mom and
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her twin brother were born there. My
grandpa was the principal of Ashabula
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High. So, I've got a little connection
here with you guys. Um, a while ago I
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was driving through town and I know that
this is the birthplace of Arolas and uh
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I looked up the location and saw that
the historical marker was leaning and
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the brick work was falling apart and I
thought I wonder if our group can help
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and restore this. And so we've decided
that we will restore this and we got the
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okay from the state and from the city
and from the current owners of the
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property uh Shane and Sarah Butler. And
uh so we've removed some of the brick
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work. Now tonight we're going to take
the sign to get it repainted and
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restored possibly. Um we don't know yet.
We're going to see what we find. the
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pole is in bad shape and I've got a
contact in Columbus to get a new pole if
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we need it. And so we're doing that and
then working with Shane and Sarah uh for
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the grape jamboree we've decided to have
an allmobile show on the birthplace
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property
and that'll be on this Saturday we're
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hoping. And at this time I'd like to
introduce our president. Uh this is
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Wayne Ardo, the president of the North
Coast Rockets. Hello. Thank for coming
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everybody. Um just briefly we just want
to say uh really looking forward to uh
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being a part of uh the restoration of
the sign out here and also uh taking uh
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participating in the great jamie as
well. Um we're Osmobile lovers. A lot of
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us have uh a lot of years of uh having a
a likeness for just one type of car and
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one type only and that will be mobiles.
And uh our group is currently boast a
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membership of uh close to 240 members
right now. Those are dues paying
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members. Uh we've been in existence now
we're just going into our fifth year and
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we're associated with the club of
America. were an an affiliated chapter
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and in that short period of time we've
grown to be I believe the second or
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third largest chapter in the United
States. So uh there's a ton of uh ton of
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uh u
that's the word I'm looking for. There's
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just a a a ton of excitement and we've
got a lot of people that are really into
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these cars and we've also are
participating in uh sponsoring uh a car
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at the Aro Museum in Lancing, Michigan.
So, uh we're heavily involved with uh
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just trying to keep the name alive and
keep the cars alive. So, um, that's
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about all I got for you. And, uh, if you
got any questions, uh, feel free to
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reach out to us. But, uh, we're going to
be removing the sign tonight like Randy
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said. And, uh, I am a painter by trade.
Joe is works in the auto body
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profession. And between the two of us,
we're going to restore this the
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historical marker and get it reerected.
So, uh, thank you so much for your time.
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Also, if you have any thoughts or help
needed in the future, we're here for
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you.
>> Any questions?
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» I think it's super.
>> I'll use the word super.
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» That's an 88.
>> But, uh, yeah, I'm a car enthusiast
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myself and, uh, it's great that you guys
have come back to do this.
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I've always thought we should advertise
it more
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place, but
it's always led towards grapes instead
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of old mobilebiles. I'm glad you guys
came. Thank you.
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» Thank you for taking the initiative to
to fix that.
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» Real briefly, the one of the very first
Old Club of America National meets was
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actually held here in Geneva. That would
have been in the early to mid70s.
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So there's a little connection there as
well. So I don't know if anybody here
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now remembers that, but
>> I can remember it.
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» Say it.
>> He was he was
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» if anybody has an old mobile and wants
to join our group, you're welcome.
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It would be nice to get that information
about, you know, hey, the first one, um,
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just as something to put up on a on a
site around here, you know.
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» Okay. And, um, we have the, uh, I know
little talked about the sign being
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refurbished. Um, I don't know if they'd
be interested in that at all, knowing
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more about that. You want, Mr.
>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Baker. Yeah, we um,
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and I know Randy and I had had a brief
discussion about this as well. In fact,
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our recctor is here, uh, Vikings and
staff.
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» Uh, we've been working on this project.
I think a lot of the the locals know
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that we had signs around town, uh,
acknowledging Ariold's Virginia as
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Ariold's birthplace. Those signs got old
to the point where they were actually
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taken down. So, uh, we've we've
undertaken a process, a project where
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we're having them see signs, uh,
replicated and and where it is now, the
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the sign manufacturer that we're working
with had an automobile on on the the
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design, but it wasn't historically
accurate. And that's kind of where we
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left at where I know uh the members of
this group can definitely help us and
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assure that we have the appropriate
vehicle on on our signs acknowledging
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our adults
and just making his birth choice. So
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that's kind of where that's at at this
point. So it's actually not far from
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from finish
as far as production goes.
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» Yeah. And and what would that vehicle
be? I guess my question
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» mobile
1902 I believe curve dash.
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» Yeah.
>> Yeah.
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» And I Mr. President also I know I've
seen uh pictures of of Mr. Rolls
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driving some of these. Was it a curved
dash?
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» It was a curved dash. It was 1905. They
look very similar.
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» Yes.
>> That's the curved dash.
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» I got you. Okay. Okay, that's great.
>> Thank you guys. So, thank you so much.
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» It's great to know that we have, you
know, where to go to as well. So, who
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the experts are with respect to the
history of
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I will just say one more final thing. A
while back when we were talking about
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the signs, I I know our local media uh
covered this uh discussion and I
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received a phone call from a gentleman
who identified himself as being married
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to the granddaughter of Ari.
Uh and I know I just I shared that
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briefly with with our visitors tonight
and we had a wonderful discussion. They
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as well said they you know they would be
more than willing to assist us. And I
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but I also said that you know it turns
out that he wasn't actually married to
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Ario's granddaughter. We you know you
know I guess the joke was on me but um
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but we had a great discussion and and
people take take note of this and and
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there's a lot of interest. So
>> we're excited to be a part of it.
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» Thank you so much.
>> Very good.
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» Thanks so much for having us.
>> Thank you.
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» All right.
Well, that brings us to our first
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citizens portion. If there are any
citizens who would like to address
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council, uh, please stand and state your
name and address.
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» Hi, my name is Cor. This is my wife,
Lisa. We just opened a year ago in um in
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June, Cam Cycle at 147 West Street.
>> We're caddy corner to um Circle K. We're
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in the all-white building. It used to be
DD Automotive. Um,
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we have had multiple multiple runins
with we are right across the street from
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the park that's next to Capos Pizza and
there are a bunch of I guess you would
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call them now residents that are the
homeless that live over there.
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Um, this is a problem and I and I don't
think I'm bringing up any issue that has
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probably not already been recognized by
anybody here. I, you know, like I I
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don't want to be tipping a dead horse,
but um, my wife now carries around Mace
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with her pepper spray.
We've had Max, which I'm sure you're all
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familiar with, come flying over on his
motorcycle onto our property,
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threatening my wife, calling her um
referring to her as for which
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we've had to call the police on and have
them show up. Um, this last I believe it
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was Thursday night at 11:44 in the
evening because we have cameras around
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the building, we have a homeless guy
that I'm not sure what his name is, but
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I'm sure we've all seen him and he walks
the dog around here with him. He has a
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pitbull that he walks with him around
the city. Most of the time he's
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shirtless. Well, at 11:44 at night, he
showed up on our camera and he had his
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dog sit up on the bench of our picnic
table and sitting out on our property
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next to our shop as he decided to
urinate on the end of the picnic table
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» was not the first guy,
>> the dog or the man.
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» No, [clears throat] the man
the human whipped it out. No, it's not
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not just clarify.
>> Right. So,
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we have Tim, which we've never had
firsthand an issue with him, but Tim
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quite frequently stands around and has
arguments with himself. Um,
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you know, I I've spoken to the police
with the officers and they know Tim and
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they know Tim is probably quote unquote
not a threat, but with someone that
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talks to themselves, you know, never
know when it's going to turn on us.
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We bought broad brought our business
here. We are
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» we are in our eighth year of business.
We decided to go out into the public and
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you know what? Honestly, I'm really
having second thoughts about it. I mean,
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it we ran our shop out of the back of
our house. We built onto the back of our
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house
or and had our business established
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there. Um, now I brought this to and we
had the officers come down and discuss
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this with us.
Then it goes to and I guess this is
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because it goes to a prosecutor and they
go and it it was officer Keeler that
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came out and spoke with us. Then it goes
to a prosecutor and the prosecutor
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decides what they want to do. But the
fact of the matter is
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what's what's realistically and it's
been explained to me is going to happen
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is they'll issue a ticket. They'll he'll
have to go to court.
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» [clears throat]
>> We now have to go to court as a witness.
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He'll get a ticket. He will go to jail
and then he'll be turned right back out
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on the street. So where is the solution
in this? Where is the
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we bring our business here and now we
are victims to the homeless people that
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are allowed to live in the park that
allowed to roam around the city. What
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happened in the old days of the western
movies when the sheriff walks up to the
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edge of town and says, "You know what?
That's it. Don't come back."
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What What are we doing about getting rid
of these homeless people? They They
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serve no purpose. They're not paying
taxes. They're living free.
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I one of the things that the one of the
officers had explained to my wife was
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it's not as bad as Astra Gila.
You know what? I don't care how bad it
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is in Astra.
I'm concerned with us and us where we
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all have businesses, where we pay taxes,
where we earn our keep to be here.
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And now we have to be afraid.
We have to get our things where it's a
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public urinal. Come on. We we we need to
do better than that.
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Something needs to happen here.
>> So, I just wanted to bring this to the
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city council and that's what I advised.
That's
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» what your last name is.
>> My name is Craig McKim.
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C I
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just wanted
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» we don't have any sort of
>> I mean I guess
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» yeah I mean at this point there's yeah I
mean it comes up every every meeting and
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we're a discussion about it but we have
no statement
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I got a couple pictures today on my
phone.
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» Oh, I I know it seems to be getting I
mean
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» taking up a parking spot in the middle
of the road,
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» if I may.
>> So, so what we have done, we have
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increased a little bit of the foot
patrol around downtown area and trying
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to move them along. We have just had Max
and Tim in jail. They stayed for a
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couple weeks. They went through their
court date. They got released out on the
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street. The gentleman you're talking
about, the dog, we don't know what that
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is. Did you call us when that happened?
>> Yes. Oh, yeah. And Officer Keeler has
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the videos that we had recorded on our
cameras. It's all been submitted to him.
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He has submitted a report. I believe the
report was turned in last Friday.
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No, I hadn't seen that one yet then. But
uh yes, I mean it's not like we're
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ignoring the problem, but there's only
so much we can do. We have affected
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arrests when we could, but I mean
unfortunately that's the just the cycle
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right now.
>> And and I guess the issue is I I know
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the police can do so much. What is the
solution to the problem? because they do
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they go through their process the fines
the jail and exactly what you say turned
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back out of the street. What has
changed? Nothing. A homeless person
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doesn't have, you know, a couple
hundred. Well, they didn't have it in
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the first place and they had a nice
place to sleep for a couple nights. What
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is the punishment there?
>> But again, I agree with you. I think
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homelessness is complex. A, right? Every
situation could be different with each
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of those people.
addiction, employment, a combination of
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all those. So, I agree. I would hate to
put a broad brush on just a person's
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situation out there because we don't
know,
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» but I agree with you. I think from my
standpoint, how can we look at is there
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anything else that other communities are
doing, right? Is there any other
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research we could do or have an
ordinance they don't allow them in
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communities?
>> An ordinance ordinance where they're
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banned, they're not allowed in the
community.
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» Yeah.
>> So, so as a result of that ordinance
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though, I think like what are those
mechanisms like them out? So when
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Kanyard when they have homeless
personnel there that return the city
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they then in fact l the police vehicles
and remove them from the community
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» to where
>> to like the one individually they take
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her back to like Ashville Township where
she resides at. So if she's walking on
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Route 20 they find her in the community
because she's been abandoned.
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» Correct. But if they live here where do
you
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» don't live here they're homeless.
>> If they're living in the park if they're
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sleeping in that park night after night
they're not residents. They're not
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paying taxes.
Exactly what you're saying.
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Just like the old days of the western
city say your limits and you're done.
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» Yeah.
>> Chief, what are what are the the legally
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like when does it become loitering? What
what
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» when ordinance when an ordinance says
when an ordinance says it's loitering?
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» Pardon me.
>> When an ordinance says it's loitering.
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» Two individuals.
where either of the one
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the other two one is facing a charge
which has gone to the county
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prosecutor's office that's pending so I
don't know what's going to happen to
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that but a felony is a serious event the
other spent 12 days in jail entered the
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plea he had been in the hospital
uh in war psychiatric hospital when he
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was released
hospital in the sheriff's department
[20:16]
back to Geneva. Unfortunately,
he's here again and he did spend we have
[20:22]
a 12day limit on the jail. He did spend
12 days. He's facing more jail if he
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continues to do what he has done
[20:34]
at the park and all that. He could be
picked up again. We can't just pick him
[20:38]
up and take them elsewhere and drop them
off of the county line. That's not how
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it works. You can't do that. That may be
the old days with the sheriff
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department, but it doesn't work
nowadays.
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» The point made is we're not ignoring it.
>> The city's doing what we can do. They
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have spent time in jail. They will get
released. They may spend more time in
[20:59]
jail because they're going to get the
suspended part of the sentence that was
[21:06]
suspended plus more time. And we only
have a 12 day limit on our jail time.
[21:13]
account and one individual is facing
county time and will probably get county
[21:18]
guidance. Both these two of these both
these individuals have real serious
[21:24]
mental problems.
City doesn't can't deal with those who
[21:30]
have those mental problems. There's not
anything we can't hospitalize them. We
[21:34]
can't, you know, take care of them or
send them elsewhere. And they have been
[21:39]
there, but they do get out.
>> Yeah.
[21:43]
I mean, this isn't going to be resolved
overnight, but the point to be made is
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the city's ignoring it by any means.
It's unfortunate what you're going
[21:51]
through, but we're dealing with it.
Chief Camper and these police officers
[21:55]
are doing the best they can and I feel
prosecutor's offices and I would
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certainly encourage us maybe to look
into what other communities do. I mean,
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this is not an issue that's going away
and we do want to address it. How you do
[22:08]
that humanely and you know legally and
and effectively. I I'd like to see what
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other communities do. I think that would
be a good good thing for us to do. Maybe
[22:22]
» Yeah. I Mr. Pascal, I'm just curious.
Uh, in a case where a law enforcement
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official would would take an individual
and take this from jail back to Geneva,
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are they required to take this person to
an address or can they be taken to the
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pavilion?
[22:43]
» Says, "I live in Geneva." He doesn't
care where he gets dropped off and then
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sheriff's department just drop them off.
[22:52]
» Is that what you're going to say?
>> Yeah, basically that's where it is. We
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it's called courtesy rides like attack
like we've talked about in the past
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where he has been psychiatric inst uh
mentally mentally instituted for a
[23:06]
little bit and as soon as he was
released he got a ride either uh because
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he does have income. He Ubered up here
one time and even the other time he got
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the county line and the sheriff uh
deputy drove him back to to the city. I
[23:21]
mean when we can't like uh Mr. passible
and said we can't remove people from
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here to those to the to just outside
that those days are gone because we're
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liable at that point in time if he got
dropped off and something were to happen
[23:34]
at that point in time. We can't do that.
>> I I can understand where
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you decided to come to Geneva.
>> Yeah.
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» Building was great. It's as clean as
this floor, right?
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» And uh for him to have to deal with it
or any merchant in town and and the I I
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watched the other day with with one of
our guys sleeping on a a bench and
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they're very intimidating. I I watched
people head to the hardware store,
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stop for a second, look at it, turn
around, go the other way.
[24:14]
You know, we work too hard to try and
get business. So, I agree. Hopefully we
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can come up with something that right,
you know, a solution or a way to to help
[24:24]
with this.
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» I mean, is it
>> Yeah, there's an influx. There's
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probably five or six at least.
>> Is it something for like a safety
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committee?
>> I I think so. I think John is the chair
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of that. I mean, we could have a safety
committee meeting at least saying set a
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date and then say, "Hey, let's try to
all look at some solutions or ideas.
[24:44]
They may work, they may not, but let's
try to at least continue to think
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because obviously our law enforcement's
doing what they can. Our city's trying.
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I know that all several of these guys
have been offered help, right? They're
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not taking it, but we don't want
something to happen to your business
[24:57]
again or you or anyone else.
>> Right.
[25:09]
» Just advised people to just keep calling
you though, right?
[25:12]
» Yeah, absolutely. Yes. And then as far
as the uh the man with the dog, we're in
[25:16]
the process of trying to identify him
now.
[25:19]
» So,
>> okay. Say it again.
[25:20]
» We're in the process of trying to
identify him.
[25:22]
» Okay. I think they have him identified.
They thought initially that it was a guy
[25:27]
named Hener, but they went to his house.
He was not there. And then Officer
[25:31]
Keeler came over.
>> Yeah. And he I showed him the guy and he
[25:37]
went down the street. He did make
contact with him.
[25:40]
» So, he does know who he who it is. And
he did file a report that should have
[25:45]
been turned in by this last Friday.
>> It should have been returned. He said
[25:51]
Friday.
>> This this last Friday the report should
[25:53]
have been turned in I think because that
was the end of his shift and I was down
[25:58]
» and that was Friday morning I think or
Friday or Thursday night. He wasn't here
[26:01]
Friday.
>> Okay.
[26:03]
» He comes back tonight.
>> Okay. It was he was working second
[26:06]
shift.
>> Yes. And that's it was at the end of
[26:09]
that. Um
[26:13]
he it it they they told me because I was
back down there on Friday, I believe.
[26:20]
» Maybe I was there on Thursday. I'm going
to get my days mixed up. How many times
[26:24]
interactions? Um they said there should
be some sort of um decision hopefully
[26:32]
made by this Monday meeting today is is
what was explained to me from dispatch
[26:37]
was okay
>> the day that I went down there through
[26:39]
talk through the glass.
>> Okay.
[26:41]
» Okay.
>> So evidently that um it's in process.
[26:45]
» Yes sir.
>> All right. Thank you Mr. I mean we we do
[26:49]
take it seriously. We I mean it is a
complex problem. I would like to refer
[26:54]
that to the safety committee. Um, we'll
keep doing our what we can from a law
[26:58]
enforcement standpoint and a legal
standpoint and we will, you know, look
[27:02]
at other other avenues as well to get
them to see what help is out there. And
[27:07]
so, you know, I would like to refer that
to your your safety committee and we can
[27:11]
set up a time to start looking at that.
[clears throat]
[27:14]
» John, myself, and Brad, I believe.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[27:17]
» Yeah. Thank you. We really I mean, we
hear you. We take it seriously. we all
[27:21]
work, you know, the new businesses
coming down there and, you know, it it's
[27:25]
it it takes away from that and and so
we're trying.
[27:28]
» Yeah. And and our business, you know,
going out from being in our house doing
[27:34]
public is substantially grown and you
know, we're getting foot traffic and so
[27:39]
there's a lot of good things going on,
right? But no, no one wants to go into
[27:44]
work and dread going into work because
you have to deal with an issue like this
[27:48]
that's so not related to all the other
issues of what you're
[27:53]
exactly extracurricular activities,
right? Thank you for coming in and we
[27:58]
and we will
>> we'll do our best.
[28:00]
» Thank you. I'll be back next month,
please. All right. Please do. No,
[28:04]
please. We will. All right.
>> Yes. Um any other residents?
[28:10]
I'm trying to make my public if I can
touch on that previous issue. Shardan
[28:15]
had identical problem. I believe they
criminalize sleeping in a public park
[28:20]
and just in public and that solve their
issue. So that might be something they
[28:23]
want to look into.
All right. All right. Member council,
[28:28]
thank you for the opportunity to speak
again. My name is Joe Capell and I
[28:31]
reside at 170 Green Ridge.
I'm here to address city's prohibition
[28:35]
on commercial trailers and residential
properties and the shockingly
[28:38]
inconsistent way that ordinance appears
to be enforced. Several obvious
[28:42]
commercial trailers complete with logos
and graphics are currently stored in
[28:45]
residential properties within the city.
At least two of them remain plainly
[28:48]
visible from South Broadway for more
than a year. Yet a review western county
[28:51]
court record shows no related case
against those property owners.
[28:55]
Concession truck operates within the
city's also regularly stored in
[28:57]
residence on Centennial.
In glaring contrast, last week I
[29:02]
received a certified letter from zoning
warning I would face criminal charges,
[29:05]
including the possibility of
incarceration if my 12x 8 foot
[29:09]
concession trailer remains in my
residence beyond the 1 to 2 hour period
[29:13]
zoning says I'm allowed loading or
unloading.
[29:17]
I have complied with zoning's prior
direction not to store the trailer at my
[29:20]
residence. This year has been there only
twice for less than 48 hours each time.
[29:24]
Yet the latest warning accused me
attempting certain event that ordinance.
[29:29]
Meanwhile, I commercial trailers are
parked [clears throat] in other
[29:31]
residential properties for months or
years without apparent enforcement. That
[29:35]
disparity should concern everyone here.
As council may remember, I previously
[29:39]
appeared regarding anonymous letter
concerning my property. Given the
[29:42]
circumstances, I strongly suspect the
same individuals responsible for a
[29:45]
complaint about my trailer. Even more
pointant is the fact there's been a
[29:48]
commercial trailer in residence
literally across the street from me. I'm
[29:52]
guessing no complaints have been made
about it, which even further
[29:54]
delegitimizes any complaints made
against me. If so, this demonstrates how
[29:58]
a selectively enforced orbits can be
weaponized by one disgruntled person
[30:02]
pursue their ridiculous personal
grievances. I'm not presently blaming
[30:06]
zoning for responding to a complaint.
But once the city is aware that material
[30:10]
similar conditions exist elsewhere,
condition continuing to threaten one
[30:14]
resident with criminal prosecution.
[clears throat]
[30:16]
While the same conduct is openly
permitted at other properties is
[30:19]
impossible to justify. The trailer issue
is by far not the only occurrence of my
[30:23]
being warned for alleged issues that are
commonly permitted in numerous other
[30:26]
residences. Packet I provided contains
photographs of my trailer, dated
[30:31]
photographs of other commercial trailers
going back more than a year and property
[30:34]
records for those locations showing
their zone residential. I do want to be
[30:38]
clear. I am not asking the city to site
those residents. Answer to unequal
[30:43]
enforcement is not to punish everyone
equally. Best answer is to fix an
[30:47]
unnecessarily broad ordinance. Geneva's
own zoning policies already recognize
[30:52]
residential and limited commercial use
can coexist. City permits homebased
[30:56]
businesses, allows certain accessory
structures to support them and permits
[31:00]
recreational vehicles to be stored in
residential properties. A clean,
[31:03]
registered commercial trailer of
reasonable size does not become harmful
[31:07]
merely because it purpose is commercial
rather than recreational. I'm asking
[31:11]
council take steps to permit one
commercial trailer per residential
[31:14]
property subject to appropriate limits
on size condition setbacks screening
[31:19]
registration and nuisance concerns that
would regulate actual impacts safety
[31:24]
appearance traffic and neighborhood
conditions rather than imposing absolute
[31:28]
prohibition based solely on
classification. I ask council to place
[31:31]
his proposal on upcoming agenda referred
to promptly review and consider a
[31:35]
temporary moratorum on enforcement
except for an actual health or safety
[31:39]
issue exists while the amendment is
considered. Packet I provide also
[31:43]
contains proposed ordinance language and
structure for council review and
[31:46]
convenience. No resident should face
criminal prosecution because one person
[31:50]
discovered that inconsistently enforced
ordinance can be used as a weapon. The
[31:54]
answer is clear standards, reasonable
regulation, and equal enforcement. Thank
[31:58]
you.
[32:01]
173,
[32:05]
» please.
>> Uh, Phyllis, in the ordinance updates or
[32:08]
the zoning updates that we did, um, was
this altered as at all?
[32:14]
» I know that there were so many changes.
What again would a viable place I'm just
[32:19]
thinking like the planning commission
which deals with kind of setbacks and
[32:22]
things like that and they are the ones
who kind of led right the zoning updates
[32:27]
with the zoning inspector.
Would that be a viable place for them to
[32:32]
consider any for them to review this
language? So you have the planning
[32:36]
commission which is dealing with this
citizens on and council votes. Perhaps
[32:41]
they could be an effective place to just
take up the question. I don't know very
[32:45]
what you're about to
>> Mr. President.
[32:50]
So there that was a lot. Um you
presented a lot in in your in your
[32:55]
statement. I'm hearing a couple things.
I'm hearing um you know
[33:00]
inconsistencies in the ordinance and I'm
also hearing inconsistencies in
[33:04]
enforcement. Yes. So to me those are two
very different things. So I think we
[33:08]
have to look at those you know
separately. To Mr. Herb's point you know
[33:12]
I think the evaluating looking at the
current ordinance and you know what the
[33:17]
requirements are under our current
zoning is something that you know needs
[33:21]
to be needs to be looked at with respect
to what you're bringing to the table. Um
[33:26]
but also again you know your statement
that you know the enforcement has not
[33:31]
been consistent you know is something
that can be addressed as well. I don't
[33:36]
know that to be I mean I'm listening to
you I've heard what you had to say that
[33:39]
is definitely something that I can look
into. Um on the other aspect though of
[33:44]
the actual ordinance or ordinances
itself the code or codes again that's
[33:49]
something that would have to
say no commercial trailers or residences
[33:54]
I'm sorry
>> it says no commercial trailers or
[33:56]
residences that part's pretty clear
inconsistency there
[34:08]
» is the code that you're looking
[34:14]
or the one that's
>> I believe I believed
[34:21]
so
>> yeah maybe it was addressed we'll look
[34:25]
into that
>> Mr. President, again, just one final
[34:30]
point on I think you use the the phrase
selective enforcement. Yes,
[34:34]
» when it comes to zoning, you know, our
our objective is to be as fair as
[34:40]
possible all at all times, evaluate
every situation and, you know, be as
[34:44]
fair as possible. Um there, you know, we
are out there. We're there there are
[34:50]
things that that we identify that have
not been reported to us. There are
[34:54]
things that are reported to us that we
go and follow up on. Sometimes there
[34:58]
might be confusion with with with that.
You know, we have often times people
[35:03]
want to know why aren't you coming out?
How did you know about this? Well,
[35:07]
again, it could be through just general
observation or it could be, you know,
[35:12]
somebody called a complaint.
So
[35:17]
it selective enforcement, you know,
might it might appear that way
[35:21]
sometimes, but again, I just want to
reassure that that our objective at all
[35:26]
times when it comes to zoning is to be,
you know, fair and
[35:33]
thank you.
Any other citizens?
[35:40]
» Okay, seeing none, we will move on to
our city manager report. Mr. Rette.
[35:43]
» Okay. Thank you, Mr. president. Just a
couple items tonight, but all importance
[35:47]
nonetheless.
Starting off with uh our sweetscape
[35:51]
phase 2, the storm water improvement
project, which which let's face it, you
[35:56]
know, we all know this as the depot
project that was supposed to start, you
[35:59]
know, a month and a half ago. Um I'm
going to reiterate, you know, the reason
[36:04]
for the delay in this project, which is
now we're seeing movement, and I've got
[36:08]
great, you know, great deal on this
tonight, but this was all about supply
[36:12]
issues. It was it was about the the
inability of our contractor to get these
[36:16]
concreted structures that are necessary
for the storm water portion of this
[36:21]
project, which is what they're tackling
first. So, we now know that those those
[36:25]
structures are on site and the
contractor is is is they're they're
[36:30]
ready to get started. I've I've updated
our website with the latest schedule
[36:35]
and, you know, the the the actual
construction is ready to start. I know
[36:38]
the contractors also delivered notices
to local businesses in the area uh to
[36:43]
give them a heads up about this project.
Everybody's concern and and rightfully
[36:51]
so has to do with the timing on this
project.
[36:56]
what we know and what the contractor is
looking at at this point. And I think
[37:00]
last month I talked about acceleration
which is uh where they're looking at an
[37:05]
accelerated work schedule.
They're not going to be working four day
[37:10]
weeks. We're looking at kind of 5 10
week 10 hour day weeks and again
[37:17]
Saturdays if necessary to get this
project done. The contractor in their
[37:21]
note to the local business has stated
that
[37:25]
they need 26 days of course weather you
know of course weathering but 26 days to
[37:31]
get this project done. They are still
looking at the end of August to get this
[37:37]
project completed and and that's the
latest. That's where we're at on that
[37:42]
with respect to the conclusion of the
project, anticipated conclusion. It's
[37:46]
not much different from the very
beginning, but they had built the time
[37:50]
in that initial [music] schedule knowing
that their supply was still
[37:55]
questionable. So, how did we lose all
this time? And we're still, you know,
[37:59]
pretty close to, you know, the I think
the original conclusion or ending date
[38:05]
was scheduled for the 21st of August.
It's now 31st. Again, it's because they
[38:09]
were building time. Not certain as to
when they were going to get their
[38:13]
materials. Those are on site. So, the
project is getting started. Um, and just
[38:18]
to remind everybody about this, it's
this is an upgrade to the storm water
[38:22]
infrastructure along EOS Creek and Uh
the default parking lot is is the main
[38:28]
focus of this of this beautifification
project. Uh as they're going to
[38:33]
completely restruct the parking lot with
uh the creation or the construction of a
[38:38]
bio swale that will run east to west
along along the road separating the
[38:43]
parking area from the road
trees. I think it's going to be a really
[38:47]
a really nice inclusion. Uh new curving
landscaping you know again all of this
[38:53]
and of course there's there's a new is
being funded with this phase that's
[38:56]
going to be actually put next door over
here at the new pocket park. But all of
[39:00]
this is funded uh both with the
Appalachin Community Grant funding that
[39:05]
we were awarded as well as this as well
as CDBG funding through the county uh
[39:11]
for the storm water portion. So it's a
big deal. It's a big project. Uh they're
[39:15]
jumping on it. Again, you know, they see
it as as a 26 day project. Should be
[39:20]
done at the end of the month.
Again, I never definitives that should
[39:25]
be um if by chance there's anything uh
that would all that that would deviate
[39:30]
from the schedule that we will of course
notify the public and make sure
[39:34]
everybody's aware of that. But our
target right now is make sure it's it's
[39:37]
done well before the great jamboree so
it does not impact uh their operations
[39:42]
for for that major event. Uh also the
the launch street water line replacement
[39:48]
this also funded by by the OPWC funding.
Uh this has also been a long project.
[39:55]
It's been a long schedule. I know Mr.
Santiago can tell you a lot of you know
[39:59]
a lot of things that went down on this
project and I see he's here with us
[40:02]
tonight. Um there's uh there they're
actually very close to the final phase
[40:08]
of this project though milling today and
and Mr. Santiago can probably give us
[40:13]
more more update on that when the actual
paving should start and that should be
[40:16]
finished by the end of this week. Is
that correct?
[40:19]
» Correct. They are currently on schedule.
Um they were down a truck. I grabbed one
[40:24]
of ours and stepped in to help keep the
milling moving. Um so we were running
[40:28]
some milling this morning. Um they they
paddled through the storm this morning.
[40:32]
They finished all the road. They started
they began working on base repair um
[40:37]
through um which will be whole width of
the road for a certain length of time
[40:42]
where the base there's non-existent.
It's all claying up through the road.
[40:46]
So, they'll be going through doing a
bunch of base work there in two
[40:49]
different sections on each section of
Long Street. Um, that's taking place.
[40:54]
They started working on some of it
today. All day tomorrow they'll be
[40:57]
working on that as well with uh
everything. Fingers crossed. Uh, we know
[41:02]
how paving goes around here. So, fingers
crossed Wednesday they're laying
[41:06]
asphalt. So, that's that's their game
plan for um that is to lay asphalt
[41:12]
Wednesday and be ready to go. So,
>> right. I I know the contractor also went
[41:16]
around and distributed notices to public
flyers and let them know there is there
[41:22]
is of course disruption in that area. Uh
there are no parking and sections of
[41:28]
Long Street.
>> Yeah, we did address a lot of the um
[41:30]
complaints and issues that did come up
by citizens um with their lawns and
[41:35]
their properties and such. Everything
was gone through walked through uh quite
[41:39]
honestly the next morning after that um
after the last meeting last Yeah. last
[41:44]
council meeting we had and everything
was addressed and attended to and
[41:47]
everything like that um to then continue
moving forward with this. So um all the
[41:52]
citizens are aware, they're notified,
they're all excited because they're
[41:55]
getting a new road. So um everybody's
happy to see the end of this project
[41:59]
come through. So
and again aside from the new road and
[42:04]
the fact that it's almost done, the uh
the upgrade of that water infrastructure
[42:09]
is is critical for our system, our water
distriution system. So it's that also
[42:14]
was a very very important project for us
this year. So good. Thank you for your
[42:18]
for your
um [clears throat] also what we on
[42:23]
tonight's agenda is uh the the a bid for
the 2026 street pavement repair program.
[42:30]
Uh back on the 23rd of July, we had a
bid opening for our project for our
[42:34]
street paving project where the opinion
of probable construction cost for this
[42:38]
bid is $700,000.
Uh on the 23rd we received four bids.
[42:44]
The low bid uh coming from Ronak
Paving at 632,794.
[42:52]
Uh that again was a low bid and uh
having reviewed having had their their
[42:58]
bid package reviewed by our engineer
they concluded that you know they met
[43:01]
all the bid specifications and have the
experience uh to do the job and and that
[43:07]
that is our recommendation tonight. Uh
Just again on the agenda that at that
[43:12]
point in the meeting uh you know it's my
my recommendation of council to
[43:17]
authorize
uh the manager myself to enter to that
[43:21]
agreement to accept our bid so we can
enter into that agreement. Uh just for
[43:26]
the sake of of record again their low
bid was 6327 the high bid was 7627.
[43:34]
So quite a difference there between low
and high bid. Excellent news for [music]
[43:38]
the city because a low bid, we might be
able to get some additional work in with
[43:42]
the difference uh under the opinion of
probable construction cost. So, uh the
[43:48]
work here on this with with an approved
bid is uh to get that moving as soon as
[43:53]
possible so we can get we can get moving
on on our rotating project.
[44:00]
Also, I mentioned back in June that our
application through the state capital
[44:05]
budget uh process was approved. Well, we
did get final. We finally got it took a
[44:10]
while. We finally got official
notification from the state uh through
[44:14]
SB450, the capital budget community
project, Geneva Recreation Center, which
[44:20]
is what we submitted, was in fact
approved approved in the amount of
[44:24]
$196,250,
which is half of what the opinion
[44:29]
probably construction cost was of 3925
392,500.
[44:36]
This is huge for us because
funding to to try to upgrade the rec
[44:42]
center for for a long time and and
there's so many and again you know we
[44:46]
have our rec director here and I know
Mikey can tell you all about I don't
[44:50]
think she's thrilled in fact I'll turn
I'll turn it over to her in a second but
[44:54]
but what this money that will enable us
to do is to to replace the floor and if
[45:01]
you've been in there you've seen how bad
how poor that gymnasium floor is paint
[45:04]
the walls do tuck point. Um I think I if
I didn't mention replace or repair
[45:10]
replace the roof and these are major
improvements. Um you know handicap
[45:15]
accessibil accessible uh door openers on
the on the outside of the building.
[45:20]
We've had it you know we've had uh ours
has been inoperable and and one of the
[45:25]
main reasons why that's remained
inoperable for so long is because of the
[45:29]
cost. You know it was over $7,000 to to
replace that. that you see that help
[45:34]
open the door. So, this is enabling us
to fund that all those pro all those
[45:39]
improvements and I know Mikey's been
such a strong advocate over the years
[45:44]
and um and I know this is going to go a
long way to help our w program and Mikey
[45:50]
if there's anything you wanted to add to
that.
[45:52]
» No, just that uh the last time it was
painted inside was in 2003.
[45:58]
Um so it was definitely well overdue. um
the gym floor there. I don't I can't
[46:04]
remember the last time that we redid
that floor even by just taking the um
[46:10]
surface off and painting it. Um so it'll
be nice to get that all done. It'll be
[46:16]
nice to have no more dead spots. Um
nothing like playing basketball. The
[46:20]
ball just kind of goes dead because you
know wrong spot. Um so it's going to be
[46:25]
a huge improvement um with the handicap
bathrooms and everything else that's
[46:29]
going on. That'll be nice. Be more
accessible for everybody to be able to
[46:33]
come in. Um, and of course the roof, you
want to make sure that roof is solid.
[46:37]
That building's over 100 almost 100
years old. So, it's it's seen better
[46:42]
days and it definitely needs a new roof.
So, that'll be good for us.
[46:47]
» Yeah. So, we're very excited about that.
And I would just add there is no local
[46:52]
maps requirement for this program, which
is great news. What I mean what that
[46:56]
means is even though we we have an
opinion of probable construction cost
[47:01]
prepared by by our engineers. So the
better the bids the less money that we
[47:06]
have to contribute to get this work
done. So you know if we if we have bids
[47:11]
that come in well under our our probable
construction cost that's just that much
[47:16]
less money that we have to contribute to
the project. So but nonetheless it's
[47:20]
it's definitely necessary and needed and
has been for a long time. We're very
[47:25]
fortunate to receive these funds. Um,
finally, I I mentioned uh earlier in our
[47:30]
work session tonight uh that it was my
intent to include a quote um that
[47:38]
speaking of of improvements, you know,
the the roof at the old fieldhouse at
[47:42]
Memorial Field has long been needed to
be replaced. Uh we've patched it over
[47:47]
the years, but it now is at a point
where it drastic drastically needs to be
[47:52]
replaced. Uh and again, is an effort
that I know Mikey spent a lot of time
[47:56]
and did a lot of the the leg work on
this as well. Um
[48:01]
we not that long, a few years back, we
put federal money into this building to
[48:05]
upgrade the restrooms which are very
very nice. Uh the problem is there was
[48:10]
no additional funding put into the rest
of the building. So if we don't replace
[48:14]
this roof, uh there was a chance that we
could lose this building. So that's
[48:18]
where we're at. Uh we did an extensive
review. We received quotes. We did an
[48:23]
extensive review and I I did present to
council tonight. Incidentally, this was
[48:28]
a a budgeted project. We had this budget
at I believe Tracy 125,000
[48:35]
» and we had bids come in the the two
lower bids came in very very close
[48:40]
together. Um right around $72,800,
you know, you know, over $40,000 under
[48:47]
what we had what we had budgeted. Um, so
through our review, we kind of broke
[48:53]
down some of the specifics between each
of these bids. I mean, really, there was
[48:56]
a $15 difference between these bids, but
one one included 5-in gutters versus the
[49:02]
other bid that was 7in commercial
gutters. And additionally, there was a
[49:07]
15-year uh manufacturer's warranty
versus a 20-year manufacturer warranty.
[49:12]
So, both of those those better uh items
were included in the lower lower bid.
[49:19]
So, it it was will be my recommendation
to council to accept the bid of
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building technicians corporation to
remove and replace the roof at the old
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fieldhouse at the Oregon field and the
council is is wanting to add that to the
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agenda. Uh again that is the the
recommendation that that we was the best
[49:42]
the lowest best
[49:47]
» I said
>> I said bid uh thank you yeah that that
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was a mistake I I want to emphasize
quote
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quote yeah we we we saw quotes for this
not
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and and yeah and a lot of research we
made sure that what we had in front of
[50:06]
us was we were able to compare apples
with apples. So that's where a lot of
[50:18]
um on your first thing the uh phase two
I know right now I've been approached by
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a couple uh businesses [music]
>> because of the parking issue.
[50:30]
» Yes. Um, is there a way to limit the
parking
[50:35]
behind the businesses on South Broadway
uh and have the construction people be
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somewhere else right now? Because
they're taking up like behind honeybees
[50:45]
and behind the BFW, behind the uh
businesses on the west side. Um they're
[50:53]
just there's very little parking for uh
patrons of of any of the businesses in
[51:02]
there that park behind right now because
of the number of construction people
[51:07]
that are parking there. Um I don't know
if anything would be done, but they've
[51:12]
got like big dumpsters and all kinds of
stuff taking up three, four parking
[51:17]
spaces. Mr. President,
>> Mr. Baker, I I can look into that. I
[51:22]
know one of the things that we made sure
we worked very closely with the
[51:26]
contractor was to ensure that they left
open
[51:30]
portions of the of the project that's
you know that's not being that they're
[51:33]
not working on right now. They're
leaving that open so people can park
[51:35]
there. That that was a big thing that
we've emphasized heavily. Um so there is
[51:42]
parking where initially there wasn't
going to be. Um I could talk to the
[51:45]
project manager and share your concern
about where the employees are.
[51:50]
Like I said, I've had a couple
businesses contact me saying, "I can't
[51:54]
even park behind my own business."
>> And that's part of the Appalachian.
[51:59]
» No, it's what's going on. It's actually
what's going on right now with the uh um
[52:05]
phase one where where they're doing
painting on the building.
[52:11]
» So, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's part
of I apologize. That was ongoing right
[52:16]
now. And so when this happens, all I can
>> part one that is
[52:22]
Yeah. I can just imagine that it's going
to exasperate the problem if if we don't
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take care of it now.
>> And just to be clear, Mr. Baker is
[52:32]
referring to the facade program, which
is also part of the Appalachin Community
[52:35]
grant that we received and all the
funding included, which all has to be
[52:40]
spent before the end of October of 2026,
uh was 23 2.6 million after investment
[52:49]
downtown. So that's the side, but I
likewise we'll we'll talk to the
[52:53]
project.
Appreciate that. Thank you. Any other
[52:57]
questions? All right. So before uh
proceeding to um items for consideration
[53:03]
of council, I would like to ask for a
motion to um add resolution number 3683,
[53:09]
which is the uh the fieldhouse
resolution to tonight's agenda. Can I
[53:14]
please have a
and the roll call on that.
[53:18]
» Travis,
>> yes.
[53:20]
» Yes.
>> Yes.
[53:22]
» Rose,
>> yes.
[53:23]
» Baker,
>> yes.
[53:25]
» Yes.
>> We'll have that at the end. All right.
[53:32]
First up is ordinance number 3418, an
ordinance determining council intent to
[53:37]
proceed with improving the streets in
the city of Geneva by supplying street
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lighting and to levy assessments for
such lighting and declaring an
[53:46]
emergency. Uh, can I have a motion to
wave the role three?
[53:53]
» Speaking of street lights, yes.
How we doing our LED lights?
[54:02]
Yes. Um the Mr. Rose question regarding
the LED lights has to do with the
[54:08]
gardener with the ongoing neverending
partner project.
[54:12]
» Y um we have been and we we have been in
regular communication with uh with First
[54:19]
Energy to get them again. It's just it's
it's a slow process. I think we've
[54:24]
completed five of 11 phases. Uh we keep
getting told the same thing that it's in
[54:29]
planning. It's in planning. So,
it's
[54:34]
How long ago was the last phase
completed?
[54:38]
I would say at the beginning of the
year.
[54:43]
» Uh, well, being out and about, I will
say there has been a white bucket truck,
[54:47]
the the light truck um from the
Illuminate Company that's been buzzing
[54:51]
around here lately. Um, it was referred
to at one point on Facebook as the
[54:56]
unmarked ambulance driving around
creepily, but they have been out. I've
[55:01]
been noticing them more and more here
lately catching different street lights.
[55:04]
I don't think they're any in a row. I It
seems sporadic, but they are. I have
[55:09]
seen Illuminate Company adjusting
lights. We're working on lights. So,
[55:13]
» I don't want this anymore.
>> But does any anybody know why they're
[55:19]
digging around?
>> Oh. Yes. Yes.
[55:24]
» So Dale brought it up um the last
council meeting. Um they've been doing a
[55:28]
pole inspection. So what they're doing
is they go around, they augur in, they
[55:32]
check for rotting the, you know, the
quality and the structure of the pole
[55:37]
and they have to do an entire evaluation
of the city It's