Civic Center Master Plan Community Meeting

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[0:02] All right. Hello, everyone. Thank you all for coming in tonight. My name is Ryan
[0:06] Ossenton. I'm the project manager from the Public Works division here at the city.
[0:11] A couple of administrative people that are here just to point them out to you. We
[0:15] have Rachelle Bedell. Hi, Rachelle. We have John Dowdy, who's our director of
[0:18] Public Works, and our new city administrator, Matt Morley. This is
[0:22] Matt's first month on the job. He's on week three, I think, so I'm glad he
[0:27] was able to find council chambers and be here on time.
[0:31] So we did a couple of introductions real quick.
[0:34] So tonight's meeting, just so you all know, tonight's meeting is being recorded.
[0:38] It's not being broadcast live, but it's being recorded and we'll be posting it on the city's
[0:41] YouTube page by the end of the week.
[0:43] If you want to go back, check it out or if you want to send it to anyone else to
[0:46] review so they can see all the information.
[0:48] We'll also be putting these slides up on our city website, city of Gilroy.org back
[0:54] CCMP. Civic Center Master Plan, CCMP. All the information from the project is on there.
[1:01] I am going to ask two favors of you. This is a semi-long presentation. I'm going to
[1:06] talk for about 30, maybe 35 minutes. I'm going to ask that you hold all of your questions
[1:11] until the end of it. The reason for that, a lot of what I say rolls into the next
[1:15] slide and will answer most of your questions before we ask them. If you do have a question
[1:20] that doesn't get answered by at the end of my presentation. When you come up and ask
[1:26] your question, I bring you the mic to ask the question, please clearly state your first
[1:29] and last name. The reason for that, we have to track all comments and questions around
[1:34] the project and submit them to our partners. And we need to know the names of the people
[1:40] that ask the questions so we can tie it back within the report if there's a follow-up
[1:43] report. So I'm going to ask, if you have a question at the end, please clearly
[1:47] state your first and last name before asking the question.
[1:50] So this is our agenda for tonight.
[1:54] We're going to run through, we have four areas to focus on.
[1:57] The first one is the Civic Center master plan and the background and the why we have a
[2:02] master plan.
[2:03] The second point will be a review of our master plan and then we will review the draft
[2:08] environmental impact report as well.
[2:10] After those are done, we'll have a brief Q&A.
[2:13] I might not have the answers to all of your questions.
[2:16] So if I say I'm not sure it's not because I'm trying to avoid your question
[2:20] It's because we haven't gotten to that point yet. This project is about a seven eight nine phase long project
[2:27] And we are still in the beginning steps of phase one
[2:30] So there's a lot of information that we just don't know yet because we haven't crossed that bridge
[2:34] So if you have a question, we'll track it and I'll do my best to answer what we can
[2:39] So what is the Civic Center Master Plan?
[2:43] In short, it's a long-range planning document that helps guide the development and design
[2:47] of our core public facilities and our civic campus.
[2:51] Our civic campus is considered from Church Street to Doughty between 6th and 7th.
[2:58] So to give you a visual of that, this is a Google view, aerial view of our campus.
[3:04] So, you can see at the top of the screen, you have Church Street between 6th and 7th
[3:08] all the way down to Doughty.
[3:10] That area is considered the civic campus.
[3:12] Within our campus, we have the senior center, the police station, the library, City Hall,
[3:22] Wheeler Auditorium, and the Annex, which is the old police station, and we have our
[3:28] surface level parking lots.
[3:31] So, why do we need a master plan?
[3:33] What is the point behind the development of a master plan?
[3:36] A master plan is our guiding document for managing our Civic Center plaza.
[3:42] All the decisions we make around, you know, how the parking is set up, what buildings
[3:46] go where, what flagpoles go where, how you connect between the two buildings.
[3:50] All of that is designed and decided within a master plan.
[3:54] Our most recent master plan for our Civic Center was adopted in 2002.
[3:59] So we're about 24 years into the current plan that we're on.
[4:02] That previous plan gave us the library and the police station.
[4:07] So just to give you some idea of how long it can take to develop buildings within that master plan.
[4:13] Since 2002 when that plan was adopted, the population of Guillory has increased by 42%.
[4:18] So we have seen a very large jump in the last 20 plus years within our community.
[4:25] And a part of that, the issues behind that is much of our infrastructure is aging and rapidly outdating.
[4:31] We are outgrowing it from a staff perspective and a lot of our buildings are in need of
[4:37] major renovations or complete new construction to get us up to speed to where we need to
[4:42] be.
[4:43] So just to give you an idea of how old some of our campus is, Wheeler Auditorium
[4:48] was built in the 1940s.
[4:50] So it's pushing over 80 years of age for our recreational center.
[4:56] city hall was built in the 1960s so it's over 60 years old and it has not
[5:03] received hardly any renovation since it opened the senior center was built in
[5:07] the 50s and it's gotten two renovations but the last one of those came in 2002 so
[5:12] it's pushing 25 years without any updates and the annex which is our
[5:16] former police headquarters was built in the 60s as well and it got one
[5:19] renovation in 1986 just for reference I was born in 1989 so it's been a
[5:25] minute there. So as a part of our process, in November of 2024, the City Council awarded
[5:32] a contract to help develop our master plan to ELS, Urban Architecture and Design. And
[5:40] in early 2025, City staff and ELS held some public forums. Some of you, anybody attend
[5:47] any of those, show of hands? A good bunch of you, yeah. So we started in that process
[5:52] us with kind of an idea of what we wanted to do.
[5:55] And we used those meetings last March, April, and May in
[5:59] your feedback to develop the plan that we're going to show
[6:02] you guys today, and that most of you have probably reviewed
[6:04] within the documents online.
[6:07] So the feedback from those meetings led directly to
[6:09] the development of the master plan that we are moving
[6:12] forward with here.
[6:15] So let's jump into that master plan.
[6:17] Couple of things I want to touch on before
[6:19] we dive into it.
[6:20] Our police station was built in 2010, and it is not a part of the Civic Center Master Plan update.
[6:27] We will not be doing any renovations or spending any money on the police station.
[6:32] It will exist as it is under the new master plan that we are moving forward on.
[6:36] The library is in the same situation. It was built in 2012,
[6:40] so we will not be doing any updates to it as a part of the master plan.
[6:43] However, we do have leftover bonds from when the library was built,
[6:47] And we are in progress right now on some design renovations to the library.
[6:53] And we are expecting construction to start on the library for those updates in the fall of 2026.
[6:58] So we are headed towards it and I'm very excited for it.
[7:02] It's going to be awesome what we end up doing over at the library.
[7:06] So under our new plan, we would demolish four buildings within our footprint.
[7:11] That would be City Hall, the Annex, Wheeler Auditorium, and Senior Center.
[7:19] And those four buildings would be replaced with a new City Hall, a new multi-generational facility,
[7:26] a recreational facility with an aquatic center, and a newly created Civic Park.
[7:31] So let's jump into, this is a rendering of what the new master plan would look like.
[7:37] So for reference, at the bottom of the screen, you have Church Street, the top of the screen
[7:42] is Doughty Street.
[7:46] This building at the top, that is the police station, again that one will remain unchanged,
[7:50] that is its current location, that is where it will stay.
[7:53] This is the library, same thing there.
[7:56] No renovations to it, it will stay exactly where it is unchanged.
[8:00] This would be the location for the new City Hall.
[8:04] This would be our multi-generational facility.
[8:07] This would be our Aquatics and Recreation Center, and then finally our new Civic Park.
[8:14] So let's start with the Civic Park.
[8:17] Our newly created Civic Park would be approximately the size of a football field.
[8:22] So about 100 yards in length, about 53 yards wide, which is a very good size public park
[8:29] in a place where we don't have public park in immediate walking access.
[8:32] I think the closest is down by Brown L.
[8:37] That's several blocks away. That's a long walk from here.
[8:39] So this new civic park would create a new downtown area
[8:43] that's in an immediate walking distance to Gourmet Alley
[8:47] and the downtown area, which we are actively working to develop.
[8:51] This would feature a shaded paseo for community events,
[8:54] farmers markets, Saturday morning outings for groups.
[8:58] It would have an outdoor walking loop,
[9:00] an interactive water feature and dedicated bike parking.
[9:03] We're also expecting it to, we're tracking, excuse me,
[9:07] towards 425 available parking spots
[9:09] with the ability to convert part of a surface lot
[9:12] into a two to three story garage
[9:15] that would match the aesthetic of the buildings
[9:17] and the height of the buildings around it
[9:19] and it would allow us to add up
[9:21] to 180 additional parking spots,
[9:23] which I'm not great at math,
[9:25] but that's right around 600 spots.
[9:27] So that would be a sizable increase compared to what we currently have.
[9:31] So this is an illustrative site plan for the Paseo and the outdoor park.
[9:38] So this is a reference just to show you the size of the football field park that we have.
[9:44] It's a pretty good size green space in a downtown strip.
[9:49] This would be your shaded Paseo, so it would serve as the walking connector path
[9:54] from the police station to City Hall, City Hall to the library, City Hall to the
[9:59] Aquatic Center. And it would create a nice outdoor shaded space for people to
[10:04] come and enjoy the park and everything within our footprint. This is the
[10:08] outdoor walking track that you can see here. It would be, I think they said
[10:12] it's almost a half mile loop, so a couple of loops gets your steps in,
[10:16] which would be nice. You have an interactive water feature here. This
[10:19] would be something that would be like water spouts out of the ground,
[10:23] on something for kids to play in on a hot day out
[10:26] without having to actually jump in a pool.
[10:28] And this is a example of the parking.
[10:30] So does everybody see the number 224 right there?
[10:34] That section of the parking lot directly beneath it,
[10:37] those two sections would be the areas converted
[10:38] into a garage if we go that route
[10:40] to add the extra 180 stalls.
[10:42] So that is where a parking garage would go.
[10:45] All the rest would be surface level lots
[10:47] and we would be adding street parking
[10:49] pretty much to the entire perimeter
[10:51] all the way from the corner at 6th and Doughty, all the way down 6th, all the way down church,
[10:58] and all the way up 7th back to Doughty.
[11:00] We would not be adding street parking on Doughty, though.
[11:02] It would stay between 6th, 7th, and Church.
[11:07] For our multi-generational facility, this would be the new home for the senior center.
[11:11] It would also serve for a newly created auditorium and theater for the performing
[11:16] arts with balcony seating.
[11:18] We would have an updated dining facility with indoor-outdoor seating, a dedicated
[11:23] They had half gymnasiums for activities, events, and parties.
[11:26] Parks and Rec would receive new office space within this building.
[11:29] It would also serve for a newly created teen center, as well as an art studio and an art
[11:34] multi-purpose room.
[11:36] We expect this building to be just over 41,600 square feet.
[11:39] That's the estimation for right now.
[11:42] So this is what that floor plan would look like.
[11:46] This is an overlay of it.
[11:47] But this would be our senior center with the lounge and dedicated activity room.
[11:56] Down in the bottom left corner is our auditorium with auditorium style seating and an elevated
[12:01] stage.
[12:02] You have your indoor-outdoor multi-purpose dining room with a new commercial kitchen.
[12:10] You have your dedicated half gym as well as the office space for the first floor.
[12:18] On the second floor of the building, you would see the youth lounge and the youth activity
[12:23] center as well as the art studio and the art multi-purpose room.
[12:27] And then you have the balcony seating and your control booth control panel for the
[12:31] performing arts center.
[12:35] And this is a breakdown of the square footage.
[12:37] I understand that it's hard to read.
[12:38] If you want to look at it in a little more detail, just check out the PowerPoint when we
[12:41] post it on the website so you can see that and look at it a little bit closer.
[12:46] This is a rendering of what we would expect the exterior of the building to look like.
[12:51] So a lot of glass, the aesthetic of it would match the existing aesthetic of the police
[12:57] station and the library.
[12:59] So if you're trying to think in your head of what it would look like, just picture
[13:02] the library and then this layout, maybe a little bit bigger, that's what our multi
[13:07] a generational facility would look like.
[13:11] For our Recreations and Aquatic Center,
[13:13] it would feature a dedicated lap and activity pool,
[13:16] dedicated pool locker rooms.
[13:19] You would have a full-size indoor basketball court
[13:21] with the ability to host two full court games simultaneously.
[13:25] You would have three multi-purpose rooms,
[13:28] more parks and recreation office space,
[13:30] a indoor weight room with dedicated fitness classrooms,
[13:34] dedicated gym locker rooms,
[13:36] and an indoor elevated walking track
[13:38] that goes above the basketball court.
[13:41] And this building would be 42,600 square feet.
[13:45] That's our estimation there.
[13:46] So this is what the floor plan would look like.
[13:51] As you can see, that is where the lap pool
[13:53] and all of the pool equipment would go.
[13:56] And for reference,
[13:58] if you keep going left of the pool,
[14:00] you would run right into the library.
[14:02] So where the pool is,
[14:04] is where the parking lot currently exists
[14:06] between Wheeler and the library.
[14:08] That's a good reference point for you.
[14:11] These would be the dedicated pool locker rooms, men's and women's locker rooms.
[14:17] This is the first floor, so this is the gymnasium in the basketball court.
[14:21] As you can see, you'd have full court options both north and south and east and west
[14:26] if you needed multiple games going.
[14:28] You would have dedicated multi-purpose rooms, staff office space.
[14:33] And then on the second floor, you would have more staff off the space, another multi-purpose
[14:39] room, so three total, two on the first floor, one on the second floor.
[14:42] A dedicated fitness space, has anybody been to the Morgan Hill CRC before?
[14:47] This gym would be almost the exact same square footage and layout of the Morgan Hill CRC,
[14:51] so that's a good reference point if you've ever been over there.
[14:54] A dedicated fitness classroom for spin classes and workout classes.
[14:59] And then, then again,
[15:00] Located gym locker rooms for men and women. This would be upstairs right next to where the
[15:04] gymnasium or where the weight room would be located. And then your elevated indoor walking
[15:09] track for the days where you need to get your steps in but it's raining and you can't like
[15:13] last week. You can come here and walk on the elevated track. Or if you want to watch
[15:17] a kid's basketball game but you can't sit still because you're a pacer like me, this
[15:21] is a perfect spot to do that. And again, another breakout of the square footage.
[15:27] This
[15:28] This is what the exterior would look like.
[15:31] The middle picture, item number three to the right here, that big black box with windows
[15:39] looking out of it, that would be the weight room that looks over the pool and the Aquatic
[15:44] Center.
[15:48] And then for City Hall, we would have a new council chambers with the view of Civic
[15:52] Park, an improved lobby with public counters for services, and dedicated office space
[15:58] for city staff.
[15:59] And we expect this to be about 47,500 square feet.
[16:04] I have gotten this asked to me a couple of times.
[16:07] If the staff number is not changing, why is the square footage of City Hall going up?
[16:12] The reason behind that is we have staff that works for the city that doesn't work in City Hall.
[16:18] In this new plan, almost all of our employees would be under City Hall.
[16:21] So it helps bring our organization under one roof
[16:26] without having to have multiple places that people are located throughout.
[16:32] So this is what the layout of the new city hall would look like.
[16:35] As you can see, this is where the council chambers and the lobby area would be.
[16:40] The council chambers would have a view into the civic park from this angle.
[16:45] These would be your public counter spaces to do your permits or ask questions,
[16:50] pay your water bills, whatever it may be. We'd have dedicated public counters, as well
[16:55] as private office staff area. Second floor is going to be the same thing. You have your
[17:00] public counters and receptions area, and then more office. And that is a breakout of how
[17:08] the square footage works out.
[17:16] So what is an environmental impact report? The EIR is
[17:20] a public document that is required under CEQA, which is the California Environmental
[17:24] Mental Qualities Act, it's required to review your project and identify any potential items
[17:31] that could create an impact on the surrounding environments, right?
[17:37] So it tells you what it could cause and how can you reduce it.
[17:45] ELS has partnered with EMC Planning Group to help produce our draft EIR.
[17:49] So we worked with ELS to create the master plan and then EMC is reviewing it and creating
[17:54] creating the impact report off of that.
[17:56] So they highlighted items that could be impacted by the development of our master plan.
[18:01] There's four topics that an item can fall into.
[18:04] It's either no impact, less than significant impact, potentially significant impact, or
[18:10] significant and unavoidable impact.
[18:13] So those are the four areas that you could qualify for.
[18:16] We had six that were no impact, ten that were less than significant, and one that
[18:21] was significant and unavoidable.
[18:23] Quick Jeopardy question, can anyone guess what the one significant and unavoidable item was?
[18:29] No, it was Wheeler.
[18:30] Yeah. Bingo.
[18:35] So just an example of some of the things they identify.
[18:40] Construction would create odors that adversely affect people.
[18:44] Yes, that's what happens when you knock down buildings or building things, right?
[18:48] There'd be no effect on wetlands or native fish or wildlife, things like that.
[18:52] So they just go through the entire document and highlight anything they think could be
[18:56] an issue.
[18:57] So some of the less than significant impact items.
[19:01] I'm not going to read all of these.
[19:02] If you guys want to read them, I'll leave the slide up for a moment and you can read
[19:05] through them.
[19:05] But almost all of them are things such as potential adverse effect on special status
[19:11] wildlife species because we're knocking down trees that would be within the footprint.
[19:15] We can't clearly identify what specific birds live in, what specific trees.
[19:20] So, there is a chance we could do something, but it would be minimal.
[19:24] So those are some of the things that they've identified here.
[19:26] They had 10 of those minimal items.
[19:29] Really the main point of the EIR that we took from it was the significant and unavoidable
[19:35] impact item, which would be the loss of Wheeler Auditorium.
[19:38] And they have given us a clear path to going that route if we need to.
[19:44] And that would be the proposed mitigation steps, which indicate that prior to issuing
[19:49] any demolition permits. We would have a historian architecture. They would document Wheeler in
[19:56] accordance with guidelines that have been established already by the Historic American
[19:59] Building Survey. That's going to cover a couple of different items, but the main things would
[20:04] be the drawing and floor plan sketches, photographs, extensive photographs. Like
[20:12] you think it's a lot of photographs? Like double that. They're going to take pictures
[20:15] of everything within that building and then all of the written data associated with Wheeler
[20:20] from those 80 plus years that we've operated on it.
[20:25] And then a historian would submit all those documents to the California Historical Resources
[20:29] Information System, which is managed by the state, and they would log that along
[20:33] with all the other buildings that existed in there.
[20:37] So what do the next steps look like?
[20:40] Our current focus right now is on developing and finalizing the master plan.
[20:46] Once that gets finalized, we will take it in front of City Council, present it,
[20:51] and they will vote to either reject it or formally adopt it as the plan that we will use
[20:56] to manage the Civic Plaza moving forward.
[20:59] So, when I said earlier that there's lots of phases to this, that is phase one,
[21:04] have this plan get adopted.
[21:06] Once that plan gets adopted, we will shift our focus into phase two, which is financing and phasing.
[21:13] We don't have a solid idea of what it's going to cost.
[21:17] We have rough order magnitude pricing, but we do not have detail because there's a lot of variables that go into it,
[21:24] and we have not spent our time and energy trying to figure out that puzzle yet.
[21:28] We want to get this passed, we want to get it approved,
[21:30] And then we will shift all of our focus from getting the master plan passed to figuring out how we're going to pay for it.
[21:37] And our goal is to have a ballot initiative in 2028 in that election cycle with a plan in place for how we do that, okay?
[21:48] All right, we're at the Q&A part, and I finished seven minutes before I thought I would, so that was solid.
[21:55] Does anyone have any questions?
[22:05] Clearly, my name is Bill O'Connor.
[22:10] My question is that,
[22:12] why is Wheeler historical? Just because it's old?
[22:17] Looking at it, it doesn't seem to have any
[22:20] unique design that I can see, nor
[22:24] do I know of any activity of a historical nature of something happening there
[22:29] as to why you wouldn't maintain it.
[22:31] I mean, so it strikes me, it's just because it's old.
[22:41] Lee Blatler, Wheeler Auditorium used to be,
[22:46] was built by a local individual, Mr. Wheeler.
[22:56] I think it was used for the purposes of military
[23:00] during World War II area.
[23:06] I think it was its primary purpose, so there's the historic military function.
[23:14] Just to answer that, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying that.
[23:17] I think originally what it was for.
[23:20] Does anybody have any other?
[23:22] Would it agree or disagree?
[23:29] Sorry, can you say that into the mic?
[23:30] So I'm sorry, my name is Dan Donovan and I'm with the Gilroy Historical Society.
[23:35] So we do study these things and that's where a lot of the resistance is coming to taking that building down.
[23:42] Mr. Wheeler was a pretty major influence in the history of Gilroy.
[23:49] He was a, I guess he was an agricultural person.
[23:53] he had a seed facility that supplied a lot of places throughout the state.
[24:01] And he was
[24:02] involved with a lot of the, say, more powerful people in Gilroy from, say, 1915 through the
[24:10] late 1940s.
[24:14] Beyond that, it was used as an armory during World War II. Yep, by the
[24:20] National Guard.
[24:25] Thank you all. Any other questions?
[24:32] State your name first and then
[24:34] ask away. Jessica Wilson. So the multi-generational building that you're
[24:40] talking about and the services that will be available, will those be free to
[24:44] the public or will people have to pay like it's the YMCA? So the current plan
[24:49] that we are operating under would be a free model. That is our that is what
[24:53] we entered into the Civic Center master plan development with the
[24:56] thinking in mind that it would not be a CRC style,
[25:00] like the Morgan Hill CRC is partnered with the YMCA.
[25:04] We would be, my understanding as of now
[25:06] is that we would be managing that moving forward.
[25:08] I do wanna say things do change and models change
[25:11] so I'm not, I can't say with 100% certainty
[25:13] it will stay that way,
[25:15] but that is the plan we are operating under now.
[25:17] Okay.
[25:18] The incorporation of the senior center into there
[25:21] with that also the kitchen area
[25:24] that's involved with the senior center
[25:26] would that then be expanded? Would that be available to other citizens to use for
[25:30] events? Or like rent out the kitchen to use for private events? Not rent out the
[25:35] kitchen but let's say we had events for the whole public and not just seniors.
[25:41] What happens with the kitchen? Is the kitchen available to others? I'm sure it
[25:44] would be. We haven't gotten to that point in finding things out but I'm
[25:48] sure it would operate under the same parameters that our current kitchen
[25:51] does. And then the maintenance of such things as the pool which the
[25:54] the city doesn't currently maintain any pools, right?
[25:57] Would that be managed under the Parks and Rec Department?
[26:08] We operate the Christopher pool and maintain that one.
[26:14] And
[26:23] we contract for the services that are run there.
[26:25] I'm repeating so that the recording picks it up.
[26:37] Who would maintain and operate the pool?
[26:39] Who would be responsible for maintaining the pool?
[26:42] Again, this would be a city-owned facility
[26:46] there.
[26:55] Got it.
[26:56] Okay, and then one last thing. Is there already somebody in a position of the
[27:03] city council who would be overseeing programming of what would be going on at
[27:08] the theater? Who would be doing that? We haven't gotten to that point. Okay, so
[27:12] the some of the positions don't exist yet. It's potentially or it would be an
[27:17] expansion of responsibilities. Got it. So it doesn't necessarily mean that there
[27:22] or would be additional hiring?
[27:24] No, it does not mean that at all.
[27:26] Okay, one last question.
[27:29] So if the city halls expanded to that size
[27:33] because there are people working outside,
[27:36] would those employees then be required
[27:38] to come into the office
[27:39] or can they continue to work from outside?
[27:41] Because some don't even live here.
[27:44] So the employees I was referencing,
[27:47] currently we have staff that operates
[27:49] out of the senior center.
[27:50] We have staff that is in the annex, we have staff that is at fire stations, and we have
[27:55] staff that is at our corp yard.
[27:58] So not all, like the guys and gals that operate out of the corp yard, some of them would stay,
[28:03] but some people would end up moving into here.
[28:06] So we would be bringing in employees from other facilities that work for the city
[28:12] under one roof.
[28:13] Does that make sense?
[28:14] Yep.
[28:15] Great.
[28:22] My name's Wells Wadley.
[28:24] And I'm here thinking of this as a patron of the library but you said there's still money available.
[28:33] But when I look at the plan, what I see first of all is there's a swimming pool on parking
[28:38] which is very close to the entrance to the library.
[28:42] So my question is are you planning to shift the entrance of the library to the other side of the building?
[28:49] because that pool is taking away parking places which are very close to the main
[28:56] entrance to a library. And also, and related to that, is there will be
[29:05] competition between pool users and library users for those parking spaces,
[29:11] and I suspect that people will stay in the pool longer than people will stay
[29:16] in the library. So that's my question about, I mean, a solution might be to shift the entrance
[29:24] to the, what would that be, the west side of the library. But it's now...
[29:32] So there are two entrances to the library currently. There is one right about at the
[29:37] T on street at 6, if you take it right up to the building, that's where one entrance
[29:41] is. The second one is on the plaza side, the exact same entrance is up.
[29:45] And they're opposite each other.
[29:46] Yes, right. So we would not change their main entrance. The only thing that would change is rather than having, because currently, this is, this will give you a good view of what the current is. Let me back up and find it.
[29:58] So current...
[30:00] Finally, parking is along 6th Street in front of the library. That's the primary library parking.
[30:08] The parking lot between Wheeler and the library is used both for the library and for Wheeler.
[30:14] And then you have the parking strip in Hannah right up along the back of the library.
[30:18] What we would be doing is expanding the parking on Hannah.
[30:21] So we would take the parking that's between Wheeler and the library,
[30:25] and move it to the other side of Hanna and then double or triple it. It would be
[30:30] significantly bigger in this setup. Sorry, I have a lot of slides to click
[30:36] through. So it might be a tiny bit like it might be like 15 more steps to get to
[30:44] the library coming from the Hanna side versus the Wheeler side. It's a slight
[30:49] alteration to the plan but the expanded parking that you would get on the
[30:54] would increase the number of parking stalls available, and we're not touching the parking stalls
[30:59] that are currently by the main entrance of the library.
[31:02] But where are the pool users parking in your imagination?
[31:06] Somewhere in the parking lot.
[31:08] Right by the library, I think.
[31:10] I'm sure everybody that comes would try to do that.
[31:12] But I think there is room to find dedicated library parking
[31:17] or reserve for library user parking within that area.
[31:20] But again, that's one of those things that we haven't finalized yet.
[31:24] Sorry, I saw a hand in the back, so I'm going to go to her first.
[31:31] I'm Margaret Aaron, and I live pretty much right across the street from the library.
[31:37] I have used the CRC up in Morgan Hill.
[31:40] Love it, it's a wonderful thing.
[31:42] My main concern at this point is actually traffic in the area.
[31:45] We have two lane roads.
[31:47] They're pretty stuffed already.
[31:49] The CRC has four lanes.
[31:51] They have Monterey and that's dedicated.
[31:55] and they're not surrounded by residential.
[31:59] So I've not really seen anything in this plan that addresses increased traffic,
[32:04] which 6th Street, since they opened the overpass, is pretty packed already.
[32:09] So is there anything that in the ER?
[32:12] So we have initiated a traffic impact study.
[32:16] ELS is overseeing that.
[32:18] And the return on that was that the change in traffic patterns would be minimal,
[32:21] given what the current footprint already is and the current usage.
[32:25] You ever
[32:28] mentioned the on-street parking?
[32:31] I did.
[32:31] And
[32:36] to John's point,
[32:39] but did I already pass it?
[32:41] You just passed it. You had it on.
[32:43] It's so many slides.
[32:45] That's my fault.
[32:47] Oh no, I went the wrong way again.
[32:52] See what happens when I get to clicking?
[33:06] So can you guys see these orange dots
[33:08] kind of that run along here?
[33:10] Those would be the dedicated street parking that John is referencing.
[33:18] Your question, ma'am?
[33:23] I believe you had referenced Lee.
[33:28] You had mentioned earlier in your presentation about the increased number of parking space,
[33:33] what the total would be.
[33:34] So what is it now and what would it would be?
[33:37] Secondly, I think some of you visited Wheeler Auditorium this morning
[33:44] and saw some pickleball being played.
[33:46] So I don't know if that pickleball pickleballers will be able to play at the new basketball courts
[33:53] That's parts of park and rec
[33:56] Third I remember when the police station was built it was supposed to park
[34:00] It was supposed to be underground and then you know there wasn't the moneys and now it's elevated
[34:06] So that's just you know, and you don't financing isn't available yet. So, you know, what's gonna?
[34:12] I don't know that just putting that out there and
[34:16] And for right now, that's all that comes to mind.
[34:28] Just because you were showing this square footage
[34:32] for the buildings being just over 40,000,
[34:35] my quick math says that's 200 by 200.
[34:39] So is that floor space, or is that
[34:41] the footprint of the building?
[34:43] That is the footprint of the total building.
[34:45] So if I, yeah, total square footage.
[34:56] So if you look at this when we post it online,
[35:00] I'll try and zoom in here so you can see it a little bit better.
[35:03] But it would show within the lower levels how many dedicated square foot is to each section
[35:09] that we talk about.
[35:13] So it gives you that breakout of how we get to a total building area of square foot
[35:18] of 41,600.
[35:20] The
[35:25] question was, what is the foot
[35:31] 40,000?
[35:32] And that's 200 by 200.
[35:35] And if you have two floors, then I'm thinking, OK, well, I got 200 by 100.
[35:42] It's not equal 20,000 to 20,000, but it's roughly that.
[35:48] So
[35:52] your hand, then, will come to you, sir.
[35:55] Ruben Mediovia.
[35:56] Yeah.
[35:57] I was a president in some of the conversations earlier last year,
[36:01] and I remember there was a lot of talk
[36:03] about in the Civic Center Park area
[36:07] having had a kind of like a built-in stage or space
[36:12] for like performances and that kind of thing was that.
[36:16] Did that, does that still exist?
[36:21] And if so, where would it be?
[36:23] or is it mostly gonna be up to people who program those events
[36:28] to produce stages for each of those events?
[36:30] We decided to eliminate the permanent stage
[36:32] from the park space, and the reason for that was
[36:35] there was just no real good area to put it
[36:38] that worked within the footprint.
[36:40] Either you're sending sound directly to houses
[36:43] which we didn't wanna do,
[36:44] or you're sending it directly into one of the new
[36:47] buildings where it's gonna reverberate and bounce back,
[36:49] which makes for bad audio.
[36:51] So, our determination was if we're going to have events with concerts, we can do stage
[36:55] rentals to help create a better environment.
[37:00] That makes sense.
[37:01] And then, I think I also asked this question before, but there, I know there's, it has,
[37:09] you mentioned the ability to add a parking garage.
[37:12] much,
[37:14] is that included currently in the plan already as a structure and if not then why
[37:23] not already include it if we're going to go after all this money might as well.
[37:28] It is not currently included in the plan.
[37:30] The plan currently only calls for a surface lot.
[37:32] But we wanted to keep that option there in the event that we build it and then we
[37:37] find out this isn't functional, it's not working properly.
[37:41] we need to have an ability to add more so it's one of those things where we could
[37:45] build it in now and it raised the cost of the total project or it's one that we
[37:52] keep in our back pocket as a contingency so that if it's something we feel is
[37:56] needed we know what the plan of action is to to pursue it okay all right if you
[38:04] wouldn't actually mind passing them thank you I'm Greg Felios we have these
[38:10] all these different projects going on, how did you determine which is the priority?
[38:16] Because you're not going to be doing all those things all at once.
[38:19] You're going to take them pretty much one at a time, aren't you?
[38:22] And it's going to be spread out. They're not going to be doing all those projects.
[38:25] They're not going to be turning something down and building it up.
[38:28] It's a great question. We haven't figured it out yet.
[38:30] It's a part of the financing and phasing plan, which we'll shift all of our focus to
[38:34] once we get the master plan adopted.
[38:36] decide which is the priority. What do we need first? What do we need now?
[38:41] This is going to take a while. It's a lot of math and a lot of hoops
[38:45] to jump through and a lot of strategic planning
[38:48] and conversations that have to take place to figure out what's the priority,
[38:52] what can we do, what's the best way to not disrupt city hall,
[38:55] not disrupt the senior center, not disrupt the activities at Wheeler.
[39:00] There's a lot of balls you've got to juggle to figure out what that plan is
[39:03] and we haven't shifted our focus to it yet.
[39:05] Okay, thank you.
[39:06] I'm curious.
[39:07] I'm sure you've done studies with the growing population.
[39:12] Again, this is going to take years and years.
[39:13] This is going to take years and years.
[39:16] And hopefully we'll all still be here in Gilroy to appreciate it.
[39:20] Right.
[39:21] And a lot of this is for future for people coming in.
[39:26] This is going to be a selling point, an attraction point.
[39:34] And hopefully, for all that we're putting into it, hopefully it'll get the use and hopefully
[39:41] you've projected how much use each one of these things is going to get.
[39:45] Yeah.
[39:45] I certainly hope so.
[39:47] Okay.
[39:47] Thank you.
[39:50] Any other questions or comments?
[39:54] Nothing?
[39:55] Okay.
[39:56] Well, thank you all again very much for being here.
[39:59] Like I said, this will be posted online by the end of the week.
[40:03] So if you want to check it out, go to cityofgilroy.org, backslash, ccmp, and if you have any questions
[40:16] that you didn't feel comfortable asking today, you can email me, ryan.austenton, at cityofgilroy.org,
[40:22] and I will add all of your questions into what we submit to ELS and EMC.
[40:27] So that's it for tonight.
[40:29] Thank you all again for being here, and have a great evening.
[40:33] Survivors on at 8.