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[0:10]
Everybody ready?
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The common council of the city of
Glendale is now in session. All rise for
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the Pledge of Allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
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» Ms. Granger, would you please call the
roll?
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» Mayor Kennedy.
>> Here.
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» Alderman Dorothy.
Alderman Gerhardt.
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» Here.
>> Alderman Franklin.
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» Here.
>> Alderman Schmaling.
[0:42]
Alderman Shaw. You have a quorum.
>> Thank you.
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Public comment. Glendale residents,
business owners, and property owners are
[0:49]
invited to speak to the council on items
that are not on tonight's agenda, but
[0:52]
are within the city's ability to
regulate or control. Is there anyone
[0:55]
wishing to speak to a non-agenda item?
Up to the microphone, please.
[1:00]
Um,
Marcy, do you know if that microphone is
[1:02]
on?
[1:11]
There you
Would you please start by stating your
[1:13]
name and address, please?
>> Uh, Trisha Matutina, 1124 West Riverview
[1:19]
Drive.
>> Okay.
[1:21]
» Um,
I didn't
[1:23]
call anybody to be able to speak. Uh, my
question that I have tonight is not
[1:29]
directly related to F,
but if it is tangentially
[1:36]
related, should I get your permission
now to ask it or wait until
[1:43]
F?
>> Uh, you can go ahead and ask your
[1:46]
question now.
>> Okay.
[1:49]
You have on the plan, you are going to
be, um,
[1:53]
uh, approving, uh, money for demolition
of three properties on the river.
[1:59]
Okay, this is an acquisition
of property. I'm not sure what the plan
[2:05]
is. That is what I want to know. The
acquisition has been on the mind of
[2:11]
Glendale since the time Dick Maslowski
was city administrator. So, where do I
[2:18]
find details of the acquisition plan?
And can you briefly tell me what it is
[2:24]
and what it's for?
>> So, the the plan is part of a federal
[2:27]
program that is funded by the Federal
Emergency Management Association uh
[2:32]
administration and by the Department of
Natural Resources for the state of
[2:35]
Wisconsin and MMSD. The city doesn't pay
any money for this. We are reimbursed
[2:40]
our share of it. But, it's a federal and
state program and then the the short
[2:44]
it'd be the city's is Sorry.
It's for reimbursed by MMSD. Um the way
[2:49]
this works is we are taking homes that
are in a floodway
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and those homes are being demolished and
they're being restored as green space
[2:57]
only and not to be developed and that is
the plan. That is all the plan can be.
[3:01]
And I know you've come in many times and
ask us about a plan. There is no
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alternative plan. There is nothing else.
>> to be because that is
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» It's green space.
>> a floodway. No, and you know that
[3:11]
because another administrator of another
city told you that the numbers that
[3:17]
Glendale has are fraudulent. There is no
floodway there. There is not even Well,
[3:23]
maybe there's No, there's no flood
fringe. The river is so much lower. The
[3:28]
fact that we had a flood, a one in a
thousand year flood last year, has no
[3:34]
bearing on that at all. And if you are
proceeding to do that, I think all the
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residents need to know.
We need to know.
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» So, the the the plan is exactly what I
told you. The homes get purchased at
[3:47]
market value.
>> illegal plan.
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» It's not. It's a federal program.
>> It's a illegal plan. Well, thank you.
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» There needs to be investigation.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate
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your comment. Is there anyone else
wishing to speak in public comment?
[4:03]
All right. We will move on then to the
items on our agenda.
[4:08]
Uh item three is the consent agenda,
which includes the minutes of our uh
[4:12]
sorry, the 2026 monthly report, the
minutes for our July 27th Council
[4:15]
meeting, and then the fall 2026
newsletter. Can I get a motion to adopt
[4:19]
the consent agenda, please?
>> So moved.
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» Moved by Doherty. Is there a second?
Second by Vukovich.
[4:26]
Uh any discussion?
Uh yes, Alderman Mishaw.
[4:30]
» I did send a comment. I was just curious
that it's been Okay, never mind. Then
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we're good.
>> Okay. Correction to the newsletter.
[4:36]
» Yeah, there was two separate comments.
One about the spectacular event
[4:39]
confirming the location and the events
and activities, and then another one by
[4:42]
Alderman Schmelzing um regarding the
wording of the after-hours drop-off and
[4:48]
pick-up. So, we clarified um some
information regarding that. So,
[4:51]
hopefully it's more clear. And just to
clarify, there's a $20 fee for the
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after-hours drop-off. It's annually. It
expires Every card expires unless it's
[5:01]
renewed on December 31st of every year.
And then in order to get that renewed,
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you have to come into City Hall and then
pay the $20 and get it renewed for
[5:09]
after-hours pick-up and drop-off.
>> Okay. Thank you. Alderman Schmelzing.
[5:14]
» I was going to mention that I'll have to
abstain from the minutes since I wasn't
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at the last meeting. But, that was it.
Everything else was already addressed.
[5:21]
Thank you.
>> Okay.
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Well, um we'll consider the consent
agenda adopted without objection.
[5:28]
All right. Hearing no objection, we'll
move on. Uh we have a public hearing
[5:31]
tonight uh that's been noticed for the
repealing and replacing of 13.1.210
[5:37]
pertaining to drive-through hours of
operation. I'll turn it over to Mr.
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Warwick first before I open the public
hearing.
[5:43]
» Thank you, Mayor Kennedy. So, this
ordinance amendment is the result of uh
[5:47]
staff locating conflicting language in
the city code. Um there was two
[5:51]
different sections regarding the
operational hours allowed for
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drive-through facilities.
Um in section 7, which regulates or
[5:59]
chapter 7, which regulates businesses um
throughout the city including
[6:03]
drive-throughs and hours of operation,
um it allows drive-throughs and
[6:07]
businesses to be open until 2:00 a.m. Uh
businesses open till 2:00 a.m. are
[6:11]
allowed to pick up and drop off food
like Uber and DoorDash. Um I I it
[6:17]
escapes me the time they have to close
um for people into the the restaurant,
[6:21]
but drive-throughs anyway are allowed to
be open until 2:00 a.m. We noticed that
[6:26]
section 13, which is the zoning code,
had a phrase in there that said
[6:30]
drive-throughs had to be closed at 10:00
p.m. We have a numerous ones that have
[6:34]
been operating till 1:00, 2:00 in the
morning for years under the assumption
[6:39]
that it was
um permitted. So, we're just trying to
[6:41]
eliminate that conflict in the zoning
code to remove that one um phrase.
[6:46]
» All right. Any questions from any
members of the council? This was already
[6:49]
heard at the plan commission, correct?
And referred back to the council.
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» Alderman Franklin.
>> So, this um would keep a 2:00 a.m.
[6:59]
requirement uh well, not requirement,
but 2:00 a.m. allotment uh of hours for
[7:04]
all businesses whether or not they're
restaurants or whatnot that have a
[7:07]
drive-through. Or is it businesses only?
Or let me rephrase this. Is it
[7:12]
drive-through restaurants or business
only or is it all businesses can be open
[7:16]
till 2:00 a.m.?
>> So, there's there's two different
[7:18]
regulations is um your your allowed your
business is allowed to be open I'm just
[7:22]
going to say till midnight. It's either
midnight or 11:00 for people and
[7:25]
customers to come in to them. So, if
you're operating Wingstop business or
[7:31]
patrons can come in till midnight. If
there's an Uber driver that wants to
[7:35]
come in and pick up food, they can do
that until 2:00 a.m. and then deliver
[7:38]
it. Or if a person wants to pick up
food, they can't come into the
[7:41]
restaurant after midnight. This also
says that um drive-thru restaurants or
[7:46]
businesses where they're allowed can be
open until 2:00 a.m. The city code
[7:50]
already allows them till 2:00 a.m. It's
just there was a conflicting language in
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the zoning code that we are just
removing that section.
[7:56]
» So, all we're doing is clearing up an
inconsistency. We're not changing hours.
[8:00]
» That is correct.
>> Okay. But, we need to And I'm sorry, but
[8:03]
we need to have public hearing because
it relates to the zoning.
[8:06]
» It was in the zoning code, so that
requires a public hearing, yes.
[8:09]
» Thank you.
>> All right, any other questions? Alderman
[8:11]
Vukovich.
>> Um clarify with the
[8:16]
um restaurants,
they can it's not just Uber or DoorDash
[8:22]
or whatever it is, a person can order
online, go in and pick it up. So, it's
[8:27]
» That is correct.
>> I just want to make sure that people
[8:29]
didn't understand that they they can
order as long as they order online and
[8:33]
go and get it.
>> Correct.
[8:35]
» And restaurants that are also bars can
stay open till 2:00 a.m. anyway, so.
[8:39]
» Yeah, that's under Illinois State
Statute.
[8:40]
» Right, right.
All right, any other questions before
[8:43]
you open the public hearing?
All right, so this has been to the
[8:46]
Planning and Architecture Review
Commission, was referred back favorably
[8:49]
to the council with the recommendation
that we approve, but we do have to hold
[8:52]
a public hearing. So, I'm now opening a
public hearing for anyone wishing to
[8:55]
speak about um ordinance 13.1.210
pertaining to drive-thru hours of
[9:01]
operation.
[9:06]
I don't see anyone in the council
chambers wishing to be recognized. If
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you're joining us online and you want to
speak in the public hearing about hours
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of operation for drive-thrus, you may
unmute and state your name.
[9:22]
All right, second call. Anyone wishing
to speak in the public hearing?
[9:28]
You have to You have to wait till I
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And third and final call. Anyone wishing
to speak in the public hearing.
[9:39]
All right, I now entertain a motion from
a member of the council to close the
[9:42]
public hearing.
So moved. Moved by Gelhard, seconded by
[9:46]
Shaw. All those in favor of closing the
public hearing, please say I.
[9:50]
» I.
>> Any approve Any opposed? No.
[9:53]
Motion carries. The public hearing is
closed. Alderman Gelhard, do you want to
[9:56]
speak?
>> I I did. I So I I looked around at some
[9:58]
other uh restaurants on the Northshore
to see what they do on the drive-thrus.
[10:02]
And this is what I came up with.
Culver's of Shorewood, uh their
[10:05]
drive-thru closes at 11:00. Uh the
Corner Bakery in Shorewood, the
[10:09]
drive-thru closes at 10:00 p.m.
Uh Culver's of Mequon, the drive-thru
[10:14]
closes at 10:00 p.m.
Uh a McDonald's in Grafton, and their
[10:18]
drive-thru closes at uh 11:00 p.m.
Monday through Friday and midnight uh
[10:22]
Saturday and Sunday. And
I I think that Glendale should be more
[10:25]
consistent with these uh communities in
terms of the the hours of operation for
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drive-thru. I don't see any need to have
it open until 2:00 a.m. So
[10:37]
uh I know that that's I I've said this
before, and I just wanted to to see if
[10:41]
other communities
um
[10:43]
it on on the Northshore have, you know,
similar uh hours of operation for their
[10:48]
drive-thru.
>> All right, thank you. Alderman Vukovich.
[10:54]
» Mike. I think our
where our drive-thrus are different than
[10:59]
any of those communities cuz a lot of
them has residential around their area.
[11:05]
Um our drive-thrus don't really have
residential or that the drive-thrus will
[11:11]
bother
the people that live around the area.
[11:15]
Also, um
it is um a money maker for
[11:21]
the businesses. I've talked to
McDonald's, Chick-fil-A I mean, not
[11:25]
Chick-fil-A. Um
Wingstop. Uh what else is there over
[11:29]
there? Um
>> Taco Bell.
[11:32]
» Taco Bell. these I didn't talk to Taco
Bell though. But these places do make
[11:37]
money and they don't bother
um the residents that are around there.
[11:42]
Um so I don't see a issue with it.
>> Um
[11:46]
thank you. Alderman Michelle.
>> This is a question for the chief. Have
[11:51]
there been any incidences where people
going through drive-thrus after certain
[11:56]
hours?
[11:58]
» Nothing that I've been made aware of,
no.
[12:00]
» Thank you.
>> All right. What we do have now um an
[12:05]
ordinance or a repealing and replacing
13.1.210.
[12:10]
It has been sent over from the planning
and architecture review commission with
[12:13]
a recommendation for um that the council
adopted. Uh we had a public hearing
[12:18]
tonight. No one appeared to testify. So
I would entertain a motion now to
[12:22]
approve the new ordinance.
[12:26]
Moved by Vukovich. Is there a second?
>> I'll second.
[12:28]
» Second by Franklin. Any further
discussion?
[12:32]
» Good. Alderman Franklin. I just want to
clarify. Um I do have concerns general
[12:36]
about there being too many
uh drive-thrus and the expansion of
[12:40]
drive-thrus that have happened.
Um but I don't think that that is the
[12:45]
debate for today. I think that it's the
inconsistency
[12:48]
uh that we're having that needs to be
cleared up. Um
[12:52]
but I would point out chief's comments
are really important uh and instructive
[12:56]
that we aren't having any additional
issues.
[12:59]
Uh and I would love to have uh a further
discussion just in terms of uh any kind
[13:04]
of consistency issues that there may be.
But I don't see that as being on point
[13:09]
for today.
>> Thank you. Any other comments?
[13:13]
All right. All those in favor of
approving the new ordinance, please say
[13:16]
aye.
>> Aye.
[13:17]
» Aye.
>> Any opposed, no?
[13:18]
» No.
>> Okay, motion carries. The new ordinance
[13:21]
is approved.
We'll now move on to our new business
[13:25]
items. Item 5 A is
uh approval of a 2026
[13:31]
rewarding responder grant
through We Energies Foundation to
[13:35]
purchase drone equipment, Chief.
>> Yes, so in May We Energies posted this
[13:41]
grant up to $2,000.
It's called the rewarding responders
[13:45]
grant.
We talked to within the supervisors
[13:48]
about ideas that we could do this or use
that those funds for
[13:52]
and we have a few older
drones that fly indoors that needed to
[13:58]
be replaced so that became our
topic that we wrote the grant for and we
[14:02]
received approval for that grant to
purchase two of those drones which
[14:08]
include a set of goggles and that's how
they fly them and
[14:12]
we recently obtained our own the city
had the has their own license now
[14:17]
program. We've been approved by the FAA
so we can train our own pilots so we'd
[14:21]
start using those immediately as well to
train our pilots. The total for our cost
[14:25]
would including some batteries is just
under $1,900 and just looking for
[14:30]
approval to move forward with that. If
it does get approved We Energies will be
[14:34]
pushing out some publicity in September
to announce that.
[14:38]
» Okay. Thank you. Are there any questions
for the Chief?
[14:41]
Franklin
>> I I just want to understand with the
[14:45]
drones do we or have we ever used these
for non-emergency
[14:51]
warrantless surveillance?
[14:54]
» Nothing we've done it when we're on
calls where there's a you know I can
[14:58]
recall using a drone on a house that we
had set up a perimeter on but that was
[15:03]
an enforcement action so nothing where
we're
[15:06]
just we don't just fly up the drones
just to watch. You know it's it's a
[15:10]
specific request because someone fled
from us or there's a missing person.
[15:15]
Those are primarily I can't think of
anything in your situation where you're
[15:18]
saying we're using it to surveil.
>> I mean we wouldn't use them to, you
[15:24]
know, fly around, let's say,
uh
[15:30]
uh and uh
what do you call it? Um an Airbnb
[15:35]
uh that might be having a party to see
what's going on, you know, on the lawn.
[15:39]
» No.
>> Okay. All right.
[15:41]
» I mean, so there's policies and
procedures in place uh regarding when
[15:45]
it's appropriate and not.
>> Everyone knows, yes, when when these are
[15:48]
when these are used and uh I can tell
you the amount of times we have to
[15:51]
switch the batteries. These aren't taken
lightly because when you do bring them
[15:55]
out, you are they have to come back to
home base within 20 minutes, 30 minutes,
[15:59]
and recharge the batteries and flip them
out. So, it's not a toy, per se. Now, we
[16:03]
will fly them in training, you know,
around, but these small ones will be
[16:07]
flying inside our garage.
>> Thank you.
[16:11]
Any other questions?
>> Alderman Aguilar Heredia.
[16:13]
» Just an observation. I
uh so, We Energies gave us this grant
[16:18]
despite the fact that we sued them.
Perhaps they forgot about that. I I
[16:22]
don't know.
>> Well, we didn't sue their foundation.
[16:25]
» Yes, that is correct. We We We still got
it.
[16:27]
» Okay.
>> Yeah, I looked a little bit. It looks
[16:29]
like it's not funded by uh
people who are paying their energy
[16:33]
bills. It's It's money donated from the
uh stockholders. And um so, apparent
[16:40]
Yeah, for the foundation. So, um I do
find that kind of an ironic twist as
[16:43]
well, but um
>> And it wasn't a bribe for their next
[16:47]
item or one of the last items on there
for the We Energies uh
[16:50]
» Do you remind me of anything either,
obviously?
[16:53]
» All right. Um can we get a motion then
to accept the grant from the We Energies
[16:57]
Foundation in the amount of $1,868
for the purchase of drone equipment?
[17:01]
Moved by Shaw.
>> Second.
[17:02]
» Seconded by Doherty. Any further
discussion?
[17:05]
All those in favor of approving say aye.
>> Aye.
[17:07]
» Opposed, nay.
Motion carries.
[17:11]
Thanks, Chief. Uh next item is approval
of the 2027 budget schedule, Mr.
[17:15]
Warwick.
>> Uh so, in the memo is the um, budget
[17:17]
schedule. Um, obviously the deadline for
determining the property tax levy is
[17:22]
December 15th of every year. Um, we try
to beat that significantly ahead of time
[17:26]
because people for some reason want to
pay their property taxes as soon as
[17:29]
possible. Um, so that's the deadline
that we're always fighting. Um, with
[17:33]
that being said, November 23rd is the
date that we target for the adoption of
[17:37]
the city budget with the public hearing
occurring on the same day.
[17:41]
» Any questions for the city
administrator?
[17:45]
Okay, can we get a motion then to
approve the 2027 budget schedule as
[17:48]
outlined in the memo in our packet?
>> So moved.
[17:50]
» Moved by Schmelling, is there a second?
>> Second.
[17:53]
» Seconded by Gelhard, any further
discussion?
[17:55]
All in favor of approving say aye.
>> Aye.
[17:58]
» Opposed, no.
Motion carries, the budget schedule is
[18:01]
approved.
>> Next item.
[18:04]
» Next item is uh, an authorization to
execute an agreement with Nicolet High
[18:07]
School for a 2026-2027 school resource
officer, and I'll turn it back over to
[18:11]
the chief.
>> So this is the updated numbers for 2026
[18:15]
and 2027. When Nicolet covers 66% of the
school resource officer's wages and
[18:20]
benefits.
Um, like I do every summer, I contacted
[18:24]
the principal and I talked about the
program
[18:26]
and where things stand, and
uh, it was a very good conversation. We
[18:31]
this year would have a new SRO starting.
Um, Officer Myers is uh, moving uh, away
[18:36]
from that position and we assigned uh,
Officer Held Young would be in that
[18:40]
position, but uh, he had nothing but
positive
[18:42]
uh, comments to say about the program
and looks forward to building that
[18:45]
relationship with the new officer.
Attached is also the uh, MOU that we
[18:49]
have with the school and uh, the police
department of the different guidelines
[18:54]
that we will make sure we continue to
follow.
[18:58]
» Thank you. Are there any questions for
the chief?
[19:02]
All right, can we get a motion then to
approve the school resource officer
[19:04]
shared services agreement?
>> So moved.
[19:07]
» Moved by Gelhard, is there a second?
Seconded by Shaw.
[19:10]
Any further discussion?
All Yeah. Alderman Franklin?
[19:15]
» I appreciate it. As I serve concurrently
on the Nikiski School Board, we had an
[19:19]
occasion to approve this earlier in the
week, although uh the laws of recusal
[19:25]
and conflict do not require that I
decline from voting here before the
[19:29]
council. In the interest of you know,
just prudence, I'm not going to take
[19:34]
part in any action on the vote from this
point, but I would like to note that I
[19:38]
supported it
earlier.
[19:40]
» But you'd like to be listed as
abstaining in the minutes.
[19:43]
» I'm sorry?
>> You'd like to be listed as abstaining
[19:44]
from the vote.
>> And I would Yeah, well, I will be
[19:46]
abstaining, yes.
>> Okay. All right, thank you. Any further
[19:49]
discussion?
All right, all those in favor say I.
[19:54]
» I.
>> I.
[19:54]
» Opposed, no.
Okay, that was a vote of four to one
[19:59]
with Did you want to be listed as
abstaining?
[20:02]
» Uh just point of order, should it be a
recusal or an abstain? Does it matter?
[20:05]
» Just abstain.
>> Okay, then yeah, we can call it an
[20:08]
abstain.
>> Okay, by vote of four to one with one
[20:10]
abstention, uh the motion carries and
the school resource officer position is
[20:15]
um
continuing for another year.
[20:18]
Next item is an authorization
authorization to execute a multi-year
[20:22]
sanitary sewer televising contract with
Aqualish and I will turn it back over to
[20:27]
Mr. Warwick.
>> Uh thank you, Mayor Kennedy. So, um last
[20:30]
year the city bid the sanitary sewer um
closed circuit television monitoring and
[20:34]
cleaning. Aqualish was the low bidder.
The contract allows for a renewal um
[20:39]
based on the consumer price index
increase over the past 12 months. The
[20:43]
renewal will be 2.4%
um which is
[20:47]
um
makes the total amount for 2026
[20:50]
$120,577.
[20:54]
So, just looking for the council to
authorize an execution of the agreement
[20:58]
for the renewal of the project that was
bid last year and allowed in the
[21:01]
contract.
>> Any questions for the city
[21:04]
administrator?
All right, can we get a motion then to
[21:07]
approve the Well, let me me motions
first and all. A motion to approve.
[21:12]
» So moved.
>> Moved by Gelhard.
[21:14]
» Second.
>> Seconded by Daugherty. Alderman
[21:15]
Schmeling, go ahead.
>> Yeah, just real quick. I noticed in the
[21:19]
the prep materials that we've completed
all of the the sewer televising. Are we
[21:24]
going to continue this in the future? Is
this something that we we just kind of
[21:27]
go through again with the next round of
of of years? Just kind of came to mind.
[21:32]
I I just wanted to know how that kind of
works out from uh you know, ongoing
[21:36]
maintenance perspective.
[21:41]
» Okay.
>> Justin, the city's required to televise
[21:45]
I believe at 10-year cycle.
Um so it's it's good to continually
[21:48]
televise determine there's any issues.
Um from this point forward we'll we'll
[21:52]
take the data that we have from the past
3 years
[21:55]
um and uh look at that uh and identify
any capital projects, repairs, lining,
[22:01]
and manhole rehabilitation.
>> Okay, so we should expect this to kind
[22:04]
of continue.
>> It will continue, yes.
[22:06]
» And it'll just be, you know, spread it
out over the the time frame.
[22:09]
» We're going to take a break for several
years, but um
[22:11]
yes, it will it will be picked up again
in the future.
[22:14]
» Okay, thank you.
>> Any other questions? Yep, Alderman
[22:17]
Gelhard.
>> I I've got a question for uh Ben. I so I
[22:20]
see part of this involves light cleaning
or heavy sewer cleaning.
[22:27]
Um
do they have particular areas already in
[22:30]
mind or is it just going to go through
and whatever they find they'll they'll
[22:34]
clean?
>> So, there is an area of the city's been
[22:37]
broken up into five basins. Um
this year we're doing If you
[22:42]
uh there is a map in the packet, we're
doing the purple area which is
[22:45]
essentially Bender Road south
and then Milwaukee River Parkway east.
[22:51]
Um it's kind of the southeast quadrant
of the city. That is going to be done.
[22:55]
Um the light cleaning is standard, heavy
cleaning is as it's encountered. Um
[22:59]
there's a there's an approval process
for that as well as some other
[23:02]
on demand tasks.
Generally speaking, there's very limited
[23:06]
heavy cleaning. However, since we're
approaching the uh
[23:09]
uh
more commercial corridor, we may see
[23:13]
some more grease and some more heavy
cleaning.
[23:17]
Okay.
>> Alderman Vukovich.
[23:20]
» Um how does it
when you hit up like that most of this
[23:23]
is my district, but how do you do that
when it's hit up with Whitefish Bay or
[23:29]
hitting Milwaukee
uh do we do we go and try to share the
[23:33]
cost or
is it
[23:37]
just depending on who owns the line?
>> It's who owns the line. So, the city
[23:42]
will notice the city will only clean
their lines and then they will provide
[23:47]
notice to any any customer that's on the
line. They'll have a door hanger or some
[23:52]
other written form of notification
placed on the property so that people,
[23:55]
residents, customers are aware of the
work that's happening.
[24:00]
» I guess just to piggyback on her
question. Like for example, Lydell,
[24:02]
Glendale is one side of the street,
Whitefish Bay is the other side of the
[24:05]
street. How do we televise this that
particular
[24:09]
line?
>> Correct. I don't off the top of my head,
[24:11]
I don't have that precise answer. I can
get it for you. It does not appear that
[24:15]
we are televising sewer on Lydell.
>> I I believe Lydell sewer line is part of
[24:19]
the
MMSD sewer line. So, I I think
[24:22]
everything feeds into there and that's
part of what MMSD is responsible for. I
[24:26]
believe that's why Lydell isn't on the
schedule.
[24:28]
» Okay.
[24:31]
» Any other question? Alderman Vukovich,
go ahead.
[24:33]
» But um what about the like Hampton area?
Cuz that is really tricky. Um
[24:40]
even going down to if we're doing south
of Bender, that would go all the way
[24:45]
almost to Capital and some of that is
Milwaukee, some of it is
[24:50]
you know, one handful of people areas is
Milwaukee, another area is Glendale. So,
[24:56]
they are marked as Glendale property for
the sewer line and it's already
[25:01]
established that they take care of
we take care of Glendale sewer and
[25:06]
they'll take care of Milwaukee or
whoever it is sewer.
[25:10]
» Yeah, there's several locations in the
city where there's Milwaukee County or
[25:14]
Milwaukee MMSD interceptors um and even
further south when you get to borders
[25:18]
with Milwaukee and Fish Bay as you
pointed out. Um generally the the cities
[25:23]
or villages know which is theirs um and
what's mapped and what's shown on this
[25:27]
represents and in the represents only
the city sewers.
[25:31]
Um there are resources that the city has
to be able to confirm, you know, other
[25:35]
sewers in the area. And in terms of a
notification process, we generally over
[25:40]
notify rather than under notify um
if there's concern about not notifying
[25:45]
anybody that's adjacent to.
>> Okay.
[25:47]
» I wasn't worried about the notification.
I was just worried about the when you
[25:51]
actually do the work and it's should be
on somebody else's or ours. That's our
[25:56]
concern.
>> We're we're only doing what the city is
[25:58]
responsible for.
>> Okay.
[26:01]
» Alderman Doerfler.
>> So, there's really no shared lines. It
[26:03]
everything comes down to somebody
actually owns that one.
[26:07]
» That's correct.
>> Even if somebody dumps into yours, it's
[26:09]
on yours, it's still your problem,
right?
[26:11]
» That is correct.
>> It's where it's where the problem would
[26:15]
sit literally.
>> Yeah, we have an end of where our
[26:17]
sanitary, where our water is, where our
storm sewer is and we clean and televise
[26:21]
for all three of those up to where they
stop and where they end. And we know
[26:25]
precisely where they are. Everything's
GIS'd, so it's pretty accurate nowadays.
[26:29]
» Thank you.
>> Any other questions?
[26:33]
Okay, can we get a motion then to extend
the multi-year sanitary sewer televising
[26:37]
contract with Aqualys?
>> So moved.
[26:40]
» Moved.
>> Moved by uh Doerfler, seconded by
[26:43]
Franklin. Any further discussion?
[26:47]
» Oh, I did. Okay.
>> Okay.
[26:49]
» Thank you.
>> approving it now?
[26:50]
» It was a while ago, so.
All right, so it's already been moved
[26:54]
and seconded. All those in favor of
approving say I.
[26:56]
» I.
>> Any opposed? No.
[26:58]
Motion carries.
Thank you very much, Ms. Granger.
[27:01]
Appreciate that. Uh next item uh 5E is
an authorization to execute a multi-year
[27:07]
storm sewer cleaning and inspection
contract with Globe Contractors.
[27:11]
And am I turning this back over to Mr.
Warwick or
[27:13]
» I'll take this one just as an
introduction. So, this is pretty much
[27:15]
the exact same item um except it's for
storm rather than sanitary. So, it's
[27:20]
televising and cleaning the storm sewer
system. Uh we bid this in 2025. Globe
[27:24]
Contractors was the low bidder. Um
looking for um the authorization to
[27:28]
execute the new contract um with a price
increase of 2.4% over the amount that
[27:33]
was awarded in 2025.
[27:37]
» Thank Ben, did you want anything to that
as the city engineer?
[27:42]
Okay.
Uh
[27:44]
any discussion or questions from members
of the council?
[27:47]
Okay, can we get a motion then to
approve the extension of the contract uh
[27:51]
with Globe Contractors?
>> So moved.
[27:55]
» Moved by Schmelling, seconded by
Franklin.
[27:57]
All right. Any discussion? All in favor
of approving, please say I.
[28:01]
» I.
>> Opposed, say no.
[28:04]
Motion carries.
Next item is item 5F, an authorization
[28:08]
to execute an award of a flood plain
home demolition contract.
[28:12]
Um and I'll turn it back over to Mr.
Warwick.
[28:15]
» Uh so, as you know, the city has
purchased three properties. They were
[28:18]
listed in the memo um as part of our
flood plain floodway acquisition um with
[28:22]
MMSD and the state of Wisconsin. Um the
the project was bid and U Junk LLC um
[28:30]
uh was the low bid at 42,560.
Um they were more than 100% lower than
[28:35]
the next highest bidder. Um I think
42,560 is a really good price to
[28:40]
demolish three homes.
Um fortunately, there's a zero cost to
[28:43]
the city as these costs will be
reimbursed and they will be reimbursed
[28:46]
once these homes are demolished. So,
just looking for an authorization to
[28:51]
execute
the contract to demolish these three
[28:53]
homes as listed in the memo.
>> All right. Any questions for the city
[28:58]
administrator?
>> Alderman Valade.
[29:01]
» That does include in the sense
land, you know, not just tearing out
[29:05]
what's there, it's putting it uh
landscaping it over and
[29:10]
» So, we're starting it to the grass.
>> Yeah.
[29:12]
» Yep. And which will be left that way.
Yep.
[29:14]
» Is it grass or is it native
>> plantings?
[29:16]
» I believe it's grass, correct?
>> Grass.
[29:18]
» Okay.
All right.
[29:20]
I'm going to get a motion then to
execute the agreement with
[29:24]
um
uh U Junkie LLC.
[29:27]
» So moved.
>> Moved by Gerhardt. Is there a second?
[29:31]
» Second.
>> Seconded by Vukovich. Any further
[29:33]
discussion?
All those in favor of approving, please
[29:36]
say aye.
>> Aye.
[29:37]
» Aye.
>> Opposed, no.
[29:39]
Motion carries.
The next item is authorization to
[29:44]
execute an agreement with Convergent for
a new audio video recording system for
[29:49]
the police station, city hall, public
works, Aryan Park, including cloud
[29:53]
storage.
And is this Mr. Warwick or is this Ms.
[29:57]
Balweg?
>> Uh Mr. Fugmann will both tackle this
[30:00]
one.
>> I'll start.
[30:03]
» All right, Chief. Go ahead.
>> So, part of the PD remodel included
[30:07]
replacing our current system we had at
the PD.
[30:10]
One thing that became evident as that
started is we still have the rest of the
[30:14]
PD with a an old system that we were not
in favor of, wasn't working well, and
[30:20]
city hall has that same system as well.
We started the discussions with with
[30:25]
Carl and Jessica and decided well, also
we know that DPW has their a separate
[30:30]
system as well, and the park has a
separate system as well.
[30:34]
We know as from the PD we we have those
monitored at our station at all times.
[30:40]
That did not happen very often because
the servers were down quite often and
[30:45]
we'd have to go have send IT up there.
So we became a concept that we ended up
[30:49]
going to see if we can get this all done
once the bidder of our project won that,
[30:55]
we decided to go to them directly. We
did have conversations with the uh
[30:59]
our our construction team beforehand and
that's what's referenced the initial
[31:04]
design change include that in the
project. Came up to close to $100,000 to
[31:08]
add that. So we decided to hold off and
wait till the bids went through and then
[31:12]
once we knew who the
contract was awarded to, we talked to
[31:15]
them on our own to try to save a little
money on that end.
[31:19]
So we ended up having them come in and
give us quotes for all the cameras
[31:24]
again. We found out that the majority of
cameras we have at the police department
[31:27]
are analog cameras. They weren't even
digital yet. Um so
[31:32]
we've had issues again and Jessica could
speak to this of the quality of the
[31:36]
video, the issues we've had in our own
jail, of videos going down. So we ended
[31:40]
up
contacting this
[31:43]
person who won the bid, Convergint, and
they gave us a
[31:48]
contracts or proposals for each
location.
[31:52]
We went back and forth as a staff
looking at what what was needed, what
[31:56]
wasn't needed.
Basically for city hall and public
[31:59]
works. City Hall we literally walked
around and said here are the cameras
[32:03]
that we currently have, we want these
replaced. Now we weren't adding a bunch.
[32:07]
The DPW I think added one camera for the
new salt yard that's going in so they
[32:12]
can have a better view of what's going
on there. And then we actually
[32:17]
through our conversations we ended up
cutting back four cameras at Rem Park at
[32:21]
the
Richard E. Maslowski Park that they
[32:25]
wanted to
put in there. So the the biggest thing
[32:29]
comes down to the subscription costs.
These like a lot of technology nowadays
[32:34]
everything is based on licensing now and
the cloud based concept is where the
[32:39]
money is. The discussion became here is
do we do servers like we have here at
[32:44]
the PD currently
with city hall and and DPW and and the
[32:48]
park which we've had a lot of issues
with or do we go through the cloud based
[32:54]
as stated in the memo I RIT is in trying
to move everything to cloud based
[32:59]
and um
I think the ease of which that can be
[33:03]
serviced as well offsite was another big
selling point but obviously there there
[33:07]
is a long term cost. They offer one year
they offer three year packages they
[33:11]
offer five year. Five year was the best
value for our
[33:15]
for the city while it's a long term cost
that also covers the five years warranty
[33:20]
of these cameras are covered under as
well so they match up. Um we were also
[33:24]
advised that the cameras should last
longer than five years. So this is not a
[33:28]
five year we're redoing it over again
it's just it
[33:31]
it would just become a cloud based
concept from there.
[33:35]
Um I don't know if I'm missing anything
Jessica if there's any other any
[33:37]
questions on on the proposal we have
listed on the memo.
[33:41]
» Um no just covering the fact that um
[33:46]
it has a five years worth of the cloud
storage which estimating if we would go
[33:51]
for a five year cloud storage plan it
could save us around about $30,000
[33:56]
extending it out over five years versus
like a one year or three years so it
[33:59]
gave us the most bang for our buck to
look at it that way.
[34:02]
Um
>> You want to know about the
[34:05]
» retention?
>> Oh the record retention so currently it
[34:08]
would the cloud storage would last for
30 days for the contract.
[34:13]
Any
incidents that we would know that would
[34:16]
happen we would be able to rip and pull
that data from and then we'd save it
[34:20]
ourselves on our own servers.
Um per we double checked with Nathan to
[34:24]
make sure what record retention was if
we needed longer than 30 days and it's
[34:28]
only three days.
So we do longer in the jail chief was it
[34:33]
90 days in the jail?
>> We'll have 90 days.
[34:35]
» 90 days. So, we do 90 days uh
jail retention on the cloud per our um
[34:40]
current
Current policies. So,
[34:43]
yep.
>> All right. Any questions for the Chief
[34:46]
from Ms. Balweg?
Alderman Shelton, go ahead.
[34:50]
» Yeah, it just came to mind now. If um we
do this for 5 years and we decide to
[34:55]
continue it, is there anything like
baked in for pricing increases or if we
[34:59]
decide to go to a different like cloud
storage provider, do does the hardware
[35:03]
support that? I'm just kind of curious
how this would play out long-term.
[35:06]
» The hardware would support it because um
most the current hardware that we have
[35:10]
now, which is Genetec,
that's the current system that we have.
[35:13]
That's what we're going with with the
new system, too. So, we're updating the
[35:16]
actual cameras that don't work very well
and like the analog, but the hardware
[35:21]
that we have is existing. We were told
that's still the best hardware at the
[35:24]
time. I don't know what happens to come
at the subscription time if they make us
[35:29]
some sort of offer or something before
we go in kind of like an existing
[35:33]
subscription. We can ask Max to see
uh unless did he mention that? I don't
[35:37]
remember.
>> No, just there's cost certainty for the
[35:39]
5-year contract. I would say in 5 years
it's going to be higher, but that's kind
[35:43]
of the the bonus. When we looked at the
different proposals for years for the
[35:47]
cloud, that's where we get the about
that $30,000 in savings for the city.
[35:51]
» Yeah, we're trying to bake in the
certainty for as long as we can once we
[35:53]
hit after 5 years. I guess it's open
season for what happens to the contract.
[35:58]
» Okay, thanks. Yeah, I just was hoping to
make sure that we get some feedback on a
[36:02]
um
better. Thank you. Um I was just hoping
[36:04]
to make sure that we did have
flexibility and weren't like locked into
[36:06]
the same company in 5 years. So, it
sounds like we do.
[36:09]
» Yep.
>> All right. Other questions? Alderman
[36:13]
Franklin.
>> I just have maybe slightly obscure
[36:16]
question, but who's records custodian
then for the data? Because if we were
[36:20]
got a subscription, do we own it? Uh
and also if someone
[36:25]
does a an open records request, I mean,
is it ours to give uh whatever, you
[36:29]
know, the footage is for
and it may not be by the way subject to
[36:33]
open records. I understand that, but I'm
just trying to get a sense of that.
[36:40]
» The short answer is yes, it's ours. Um
the you know, when you just have
[36:46]
a camera that's a surveillance camera
like, you know, in in Village Hall or
[36:51]
whatever and um
you know, you're you're generating hours
[36:55]
and hours of that stuff by the day. Um
that's why under the state records
[37:02]
um
schedule that they said, you know, it's
[37:05]
3 days, but the caveat there is if you
know you have an incident, somebody
[37:11]
slips and falls, um you know, there's
there's a altercation in the lobby or
[37:16]
there's a car accident out front, then
you keep it for a minimum of 120 days to
[37:22]
see if there's a notice of claim that
comes in and then you get rid of it, but
[37:25]
it's ours. I mean, it's we it's it's our
data that we have access to if we get an
[37:30]
open records request that we have to
respond to or if we keep it longer
[37:34]
because we know there's an incident. Um
they can't There's nothing that a
[37:39]
private contract can usurp the open
records law um in Wisconsin and and
[37:45]
we'll we'll always have access to it.
>> Thanks. And then just to can I ask the
[37:49]
last question cuz I was thinking you as
you were answering it, which is
[37:53]
retention.
Um obviously 120 days for claim, but
[37:57]
some will file, you know, claim federal
court right within statute and patient
[38:00]
for example and some might not know that
something happened. So, how long must we
[38:06]
keep data on the surveillance and does
that kind of create a long-term problem
[38:11]
or not?
>> No, I don't think so, but your point is
[38:15]
well taken that
um
[38:19]
what if something occurs and then you
didn't find out it till after it was
[38:22]
deleted, right? I think that I well
I think then you just, you know, the
[38:27]
position would be
um we have a record retention schedule
[38:31]
that's
stamped the has a stamp of approval of
[38:34]
the Wisconsin uh records uh board
who sets these things. Uh we kept it for
[38:40]
the appropriate number of days
and discarded it in the normal course of
[38:44]
business and we don't have it anymore.
You know.
[38:47]
» Yeah, I can't imagine municipality keeps
their CCD more than what we're proposing
[38:52]
here. There's There's none that would do
that.
[38:55]
» Okay.
Thanks. Any other questions?
[38:57]
» In my conversations with them, they said
that 30 days is a very common uh time
[39:03]
frame for municipalities. Yeah.
>> Any other questions?
[39:08]
All right, can we get a motion then to
um authorize the agreement with
[39:12]
Convergent for the new audio video
recording uh system as indicated by the
[39:17]
chief and Ms. Bowick.
>> So moved.
[39:21]
» Moved by Gelhar. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[39:24]
» Second by Franklin. Any further
discussion?
[39:28]
All those in favor of approving, please
say aye.
[39:30]
» Aye.
>> Opposed, no.
[39:32]
Motion carries.
Thank you. And um our final item tonight
[39:37]
uh is sent over from the Planning and
Architecture Review Commission. Uh We
[39:41]
Energies is proposing to change the
facade of their building at 5400 North
[39:45]
Green Bay Avenue.
Uh what did go to the Planning and
[39:48]
Architecture Review Commission which
determined it to be a minor amendment to
[39:52]
the planned unit development. And Mr.
Warwick, is there anything more you want
[39:55]
to add to that?
>> Yeah, the the pictures um are shared up
[39:58]
there. It's simply um the Planning and
Architecture Review Commission
[40:00]
determined that this would be a minor
amendment just looking for confirmation
[40:03]
from the council on that and um approval
of the plan.
[40:07]
And there are representatives from We
Energies here if you have any questions.
[40:10]
» Yeah.
Are there any questions for
[40:14]
staff?
All right. So say you said this has
[40:17]
already been reviewed by the PARC, sent
over here with a recommendation that we
[40:21]
approve
uh the facade changes to We Energies
[40:25]
building or service center 5400 North
Green Bay Avenue and considered a minor
[40:30]
amendment to the planned unit
development. Can I get a motion to
[40:33]
approve, please?
>> So moved.
[40:34]
» Moved by Daugherty. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[40:36]
» Second by Gelhard. Any further
discussion?
[40:40]
Alderwoman Vukovich, go ahead.
>> They have money to fix their building,
[40:43]
but don't have money to bury their
lines. I just wanted to make sure
[40:48]
» Uh-huh.
>> got that.
[40:51]
» Thank you. Any other comments or
questions?
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All those in favor of approving, please
say aye.
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» Aye.
>> Opposed, no.
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Motion carries.
All right, that concludes all of our
[41:02]
business this evening.
Uh we now have uh commission, committee,
[41:05]
board, and staff reports, and I'll start
with uh Alderwoman Vukovich. Anything to
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report?
>> Um just wanted to
[41:13]
do a shout-out to Abby Terrell, um
Carl, for the back-to-school event.
[41:21]
Um he'll talk more about what we gave
out. No, no, no, no, you do cuz I don't
[41:25]
know all of it. Um but just the the time
and the effort that people put in. I
[41:31]
know I think Mr. um
Terrell said that we had roughly about
[41:38]
$2200 in sales.
Um so, our sales have been going up and
[41:43]
up. Um hopefully if things keep going
the way we are, we may have a profit.
[41:48]
We're just going to pray, but we I don't
think we'll have a loss um this year as
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bad as we did last year. So, the
improvements that Carl has accepted, you
[41:57]
know, the ideas that Carl uh you know,
let Terrell put through or or
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whatever the committee said, um I just
want to thank the staff, Abby, uh what's
[42:09]
her name?
Um
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the accounting
>> Alderman Emily
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» Emily
Um, Emily Terrell, they and Jessica,
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they really work hard on those things
um, as a staffer and sometimes we need
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to just like give them their flowers.
So,
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there's your bouquet.
>> Thank you.
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Alderman Doherty nothing to report
tonight.
[42:30]
» Alderman Gearhart
>> Nothing this evening.
[42:32]
» Alderman Franklin
>> Nothing.
[42:33]
» Alderman Schmelsing
>> Uh, echoing some of the things that um,
[42:37]
Alderman Vukovic said about our staff
for the park. Um, we had our uh, first
[42:43]
time we got to use, I think one of the
first person that used the new fire pit
[42:47]
over at AM Park. Uh, the scouts came out
and did a flag retirement as part of our
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um,
salute to veterans that had to be
[42:53]
rescheduled because of meeting from
earlier in the season that was washed
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out last year. So, uh, we did pull it
off and it was uh, great to be able to
[43:00]
have that venue for something like this
and we're going to just continue it next
[43:04]
year. Um, so, uh,
quick reminder if you have any flags to
[43:09]
retire, I have a uh, bin in my garage.
So, um, we'll continue to do that as
[43:13]
with the scouts and we had a bugler it
was great. So, thank you everyone for
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helping make that happen.
>> Thank you. Alderman Shaw
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Okay, I as mayor also don't have a
report. Um, city of or sorry, city
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attorney
>> Nothing this evening, thanks.
[43:26]
» City administrator
>> I'll say the most obvious thing is that
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the Bender Bridge is open now to traffic
in both directions. Uh, there might be
[43:33]
some aesthetic repairs that will be
needed. They poured concrete in the
[43:36]
rain.
Um, so, there's some discoloration and
[43:39]
some other minor things that might need
to be corrected by the contractor. We're
[43:43]
going to hold them off until next summer
um, when school is not in session to
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make those repairs if they're necessary.
>> Thank you. Ms. Granger
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» Um, I just want to report that the
election went off without a hitch with
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no power outages and we had 4,300
>> And of course We Energies has left the
[43:58]
building, so
>> Um, 4,362
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voters out of 9,307
registered voters.
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» About 47% was it?
>> Yeah.
[44:10]
» around 40-ish percent almost 50, yeah.
>> Okay.
[44:14]
Thank you, Chief.
>> Uh demo is continuing we're over 90%
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done with that and then we'll finally
get building over there. And then since
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our last meeting we had two officers
start the police academy that are
[44:26]
scheduled to graduate in mid-December.
>> Excellent, thank you.
[44:30]
Yeah.
>> Is this on schedule or ahead of schedule
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or
>> On schedule.
[44:36]
» Okay.
>> All right.
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Well, nothing else on our agenda and no
other reports I would entertain a motion
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to adjourn.
>> So moved.
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» Moved by Gelhard.
>> Second.
[44:46]
» Seconded by Doherty. All those in favor
of adjourning please say I.
[44:49]
» I.
>> Opposed no.
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We stand adjourned at 6:44 p.m.
>> Mark.
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» Did you use those drones to scout the
power lines?