Village of Goodrich Council Meeting September 9, 2024

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[0:00] I has rain over the weekend or Friday was so hopefully it kind of clear it's
[0:05] not as bad as what it was we got to get the the two guys out there training on
[0:11] the roads and we do
[0:16] yeah uh I met some as companies to give a esma and East eag and rro you like in
[0:24] M Mill Phi so I'm meeting with one tomorrow morning it's a price idea
[0:31] I Ro we can do here that you dropped a new truck off to Bas yesterday or today
[0:38] this morning to get the stet kit all that good stuff on it should be down
[0:44] about two days three
[0:47] days and I noticed going down West heagle Road halfway down the hill
[0:52] towards the school there's a counter on the post right there and I thought a
[0:56] traffic counter it's not it's pedestrian counter they have one in town here and
[1:01] there's two in Atlas Township so that was kind of got for
[1:06] like for the walk yeah halfway like a pad that is not just a no
[1:13] it's just a little camera a little eye on
[1:18] cting I didn't know he made one I called the county and I said is it he said it's
[1:26] ours interesting
[1:31] what else much we will be Limestone and Dutch Road
[1:36] that's the last road to Limestone within probably two three weeks
[1:41] here so that's what I
[1:58] got Great Liner that's over Etha has been delayed I don't know
[2:07] why did he say anything M he said November he said the problem is they're
[2:13] actually catching up now and they have a large trucks p in all once that's kind
[2:18] of waiting line he said we can't do it fast enough to get all out the
[2:24] door November should be November
[2:39] yeah all right um moving on to enforement really
[2:48] Laura amazing
[2:55] amazing I got I got this packet and I'm like
[3:00] packet F this she does her job and we got lots of beautiful pictures and
[3:08] um so so how was your uh your first month things
[3:15] go
[3:18] started a little bit more
[3:25] familiar uh so I provided you with some pictures and you know quite honestly my
[3:33] Approach will be to uh talk to some of the businesses
[3:41] along the M15 Corridor or contractors hopefully to stimulate some improvements
[3:48] that the community then will be able to see um you know before say targeting any
[3:56] individual problems with homeowners and so on but I would like to you see from
[4:01] the pictures you know all of those pictures are pictures that belong to
[4:07] mostly up and down and 15 U few Exceptions there um but I will hopefully
[4:17] be able to call on some of those businesses and discuss ways that perhaps
[4:21] we can get them to come into compliance with maintaining that buffer zone and
[4:27] the sidewalks in front of their businesses
[4:31] you to see what can be done there wonderful um you I like your um your
[4:36] format that you sent this as well um my only suggestion um would be
[4:42] um I I think it would be nice to have a um just a chart um like you've got um
[4:49] these incident incidents um documented here um if if we could have
[4:57] um you know like like pending or closed or you know resolved um you just so that
[5:03] we exactly so this is the first report and that's what in summary I said uh I
[5:10] will provide the updated outcomes to these issues so hopefully at the next
[5:17] meeting maybe some of these um that's what you'll you'll see um this was just
[5:23] my initial observation I did send one notice of
[5:28] violation out um just went
[5:33] Bri um I removed some signs from the buffer area that you know um people
[5:41] trying to do seal coating and gutters and they're putting those signs are
[5:45] front gas stations things like that and they're they're between the sidewalk and
[5:50] the road and they don't belong there but I've let the people know that they can
[5:53] come and get their signs and they've all been really pretty nice about it you
[5:57] know I've explained what which
[6:01] ordinance uh dictates appropriate placement of sign
[6:06] and
[6:10] Etc all right well thank you so much very nice
[6:26] thank through and revie these but the building
[6:30] Jor packet for your review
[6:37] um the fire department activity report is also there for your
[6:43] riew and the sheriff's department activity
[6:51] report moving on to unfinished business on authorize agreement with J County Ro
[6:57] commission for 800 foot ditching and hybrid seating brid Road from Eagle Road
[7:03] to January Court plus replace three driveway culs at a total of
[7:14] 14,18
[7:17] we maybe postpone that to you can't seem to find anybody that
[7:24] wants to do the driveways tail them CS out and not CL the driveways right
[7:31] away seters I did talk
[7:35] to one after I talk you with me prob
[7:41] okay he same
[7:46] thing yeah I just hate to pull them cards let them ditch it and not be able
[7:51] to replace them or our option right now is to just ditch and don't worry about
[7:57] the right if they're going to be out there had res
[8:02] ass ditching longer that's why better to go ahead and see
[8:08] them take on the C so separate yeah bit over1 th000 right
[8:18] now back Char come back out right yeah yeah come
[8:27] back so do you want to look into that then you to postpone
[8:34] this I like done now we go back and do the cover some point there's no holds or
[8:40] nothing it's just they know ends so this includes everything but the
[8:46] three okay well this includes everything but the
[8:52] three says 12 by
[9:02] so do you want to make a motion
[9:07] exception make a motion to go ahead and Pitch without replacing the Cs yes or to
[9:14] be done when no redo it make what's before you right
[9:21] now is this you're going to approve it minus the Cs that's what you're doing
[9:27] culverts is another issue then I will make a motion
[9:34] to authorize the agreement with the jese County Road commission for 800 feet of
[9:38] ditching in Hydro Seating ritten Road from FAL road to janoy Fort with the
[9:42] exception of not replacing the three driveway colberts for a cost to be
[9:47] determined after Matt talks to the company second this is one of
[9:57] those we don't do this
[10:01] driveway so then hold on we need we need a I have
[10:07] a it's so instead of the price determined later at a price of $1
[10:12] 13,430
[10:16] and4 you 13,430 04
[10:27] [Music]
[10:30] um we have a motion and support to authoriz um um J count Ro commission 800
[10:38] ft of ditching and hyro seting Bridge Road from heagle road to January Court
[10:43] um minus three C placements um at a cost of
[10:51] $3,430 4 roll call pleas
[10:56] yes yes
[11:00] yes
[11:19] yes okay um the next item um it's really two
[11:27] separate items but um let's talk about the uh traffic study
[11:35] first um we can rent
[11:42] um counters from the uh from the
[11:48] county and um how long do we want to do the study
[11:54] for they recommend a week
[12:07] West
[12:11] um anybody have any comments in regards to performing um the traffic
[12:17] St the fee is $5 a day for each
[12:24] counter day correct
[12:29] okay
[12:33] um so then let's talk about um the monkey survey
[12:39] um Sher can you explain the monkey surveys and how they work it's free you
[12:44] set it up they help you set it up uh you set it up on your uh your website and uh
[12:51] you send out um notices to all the residents
[12:56] to voice their opinion you can give them some choices or not or
[13:02] yes or can be a yes or no or there can be two or three choices of their
[13:05] opinions on things do you
[13:10] um the spot you know um what that I know it's
[13:16] printing cross and um in postage I know we get a bol rate on the postage right
[13:22] well do we know what that approximate cost
[13:25] is is it we talk
[13:30] we get a reduction in the actual price of the post regular postage anyway so
[13:33] it's not going to cost with you normally what is it 72 cents now for mail a
[13:37] letter it doesn't cost that I ours is less than that and we can mail in both
[13:44] what about the creation the printing and everything we we can do
[13:48] that can I CH my bottom only bring it up because I I recently went to the atlas
[13:55] Township meeting about property and it was one of those things where just like
[13:59] this nobody knew about it beforehand when they were testing the Reon the
[14:04] future land use and everybody made a very very strong case and the gentleman
[14:08] finally I think he agreed with us that I know it doesn't
[14:11] seem necessary some but I think we need to do a bigger push on social media only
[14:17] because and we can you know we can make the village of good Rich you can't
[14:20] comment on anything you can just post things but what I tried to explain to
[14:23] him was you know as I'm swiping through to see what time my kids track being it
[14:27] is and what time this is and what see in there when it just passes by it says oh
[14:31] there's an upcoming Village meeting I see it I'm not going to look it's
[14:35] ignorance on a lot of us like I I say I'm not going to look at the newspaper
[14:38] to know when the next upcoming Atlas Township meeting is which is my fault
[14:41] I'm a grown adult they should but I'm saying for a convenience and the amount
[14:45] of time it would take for somebody in the office or if somebody on Council is
[14:48] allowed to do it to start posting and saying hey there is an upcoming meeting
[14:52] here's what's on the agenda I just really think that I know Facebook is not
[14:56] for everybody but it is for a lot of people if we could put put the survey
[14:59] and say here and put the link right on Facebook it could save us a boatload of
[15:03] money but I think you'd get much more exposure because it might just get
[15:07] thrown you know in the trash when it get people's houses that's just my opinion I
[15:10] I love what we're doing but I think social media is a really strong platform
[15:14] right now to be able to get people to see things it's right in their face so I
[15:19] will reiterate what what we talked about earlier today and and um I don't have
[15:24] any issues with the social media um point of view
[15:29] um our objective here is to get everyone's opinion um whether they think
[15:35] it's a good idea or not so that we can gauge that um but
[15:42] um I do think there's a lot of people that um don't use social media um I'm
[15:49] not a big social media person myself um I don't know just generally
[15:56] speaking I'm just making an assumption here so don't jump on me but I'm I'm
[16:00] guessing that um there's probably a lot of older folks um that that that don't
[16:05] get um on the social media platforms um my opinion I think the the
[16:11] monkey survey is good because everybody gets a card in the mail that says hey
[16:15] we're doing the survey on um a proposed truck
[16:20] ordinance here's a website please go out and and and take a survey or we can make
[16:25] it really easy by sending out a letter with a return postage uh envelope and
[16:30] and have them just do it right then handwritten and mail back or drop it off
[16:34] or it was a letter with a QR code that's even
[16:37] easier a lot of [Music]
[16:43] people yeah I'm not seeing um one is better than the other I mean I think
[16:50] potentially do do both is there anything coming out from the village soon that we
[16:54] could include it is there any bills or anything coming out soon
[17:01] that we make it just a discussion that maybe we all kind get our ideas together
[17:05] what's the best way all right so can I can I have a
[17:10] comment you can um my concern with mailing something now like a
[17:17] postcard how much junk are we getting in the mail with political stuff I don't
[17:23] look at it it bro away I see a postcard in the mail I oh
[17:28] political done it's
[17:33] gone so I I don't know I think the Integrity of meiling something right now
[17:38] could be diminished yeah with the with all the election mailings that are going
[17:47] out what if we postponed it until we get the traffic study
[17:52] done that won't be done until after the election and then we can give them some
[17:58] choices with some information on what the traffic study
[18:02] said right and that I mean it may make that may make better sense because maybe
[18:07] the traffic study shows that this is for not why you guys didn't do it at the
[18:14] last why is it the second time we put it on and the people show up and we're
[18:20] gonna do all this now well I'll address that that um question I'll address that
[18:27] right now the the reason that this is on the agenda tonight we are still um we
[18:34] are still doing research we are still investigating this we've reached out to
[18:39] mdat we've reached out to J County Road Commission um we've reached out to um to
[18:44] tips that's where we get um our money for like when we just did uh keep Ro so
[18:50] we're still um investing it the reason that it was on here tonight was because
[18:55] last month Shannon made a motion to put it on this month's agenda we supported
[19:03] that and we did and that but that is the reason why it is on the agenda because
[19:08] it had to be on the agenda for the motion that was made last month correct
[19:13] so and we are postponing that to a further date because we're not done
[19:19] doing our that's why I withdraw RS we get two there you got more all right
[19:24] good luck to y'all um
[19:29] all right so as far as a traic study everybody's
[19:33] an agreement that you should do a traic study yes yes okay then I would look for
[19:38] a motion to gra I'll make a motion to
[19:43] purchase the stuff to traffic study and them out as soon as we get
[19:49] up Eagle Road for West eagle and I'll support
[19:55] that um we have a motion and support to perform a traffic
[20:01] study on Eagle Road East and Eagle Road West um all those in favor say I I I
[20:09] oppose motion moving on to new business um
[20:15] consider planning commission's recommendation to approve the request
[20:19] for paral division 9202 d5400 d045 to be added to
[20:25] personal 92025 400-
[20:31] z39 um we're going to talk about this one first but then there's another one
[20:35] coming after that these are both related so I'm going to read that one too um we
[20:40] also um are to consider um a recommendation from the Planning
[20:46] Commission to approve request for parel 92025 d400 d41 to be combined with
[20:54] 92025 d400 d045 umk Mar Brown R petitioner so real
[21:02] quick Mark if you could just um explain to the people that um aren't on the the
[21:08] Planning Commission myself and Shannon AR on the Planning Commission could you
[21:13] just give the audience um just a brief very brief overview of what you're
[21:19] trying to do with your pro two properties up there BR stew
[21:24] Center and St and there's a front
[21:29] you got you got diagram can you bring it up here just
[21:37] show you guys are well be helpful
[22:09] okay so here's the front lot we would like
[22:13] to put it with the storage line could be a future office put on
[22:21] this and when we get to this one this one is
[22:25] the barn and property in the back here that the hardare is already
[22:31] using that we like to attach it
[22:37] to yeah yeah he say attach this property together this is one
[22:43] lot this that will shape
[22:51] is to be attached
[22:59] [Music]
[23:22] fure that could be or could be attached to this drive wire and
[23:29] depends on
[23:33] what right now we do have an already going around here for both properties to
[23:44] [Music]
[23:56] use no I was unanimous on both um on both parcel combinations for the
[24:03] Planning Commission to send it to C okay so let's go ahead and U handle
[24:11] one at a turn I'll make a motion to um authorize the planning
[24:17] commission's recommendation to approve the request for parcel division one
[24:20] section of number 9202 D15 d400 d045 to be added to number 922154
[24:28] -39 for Mark
[24:33] Browner Motion in support um to approve the the request um from
[24:41] the plan commission
[24:44] [Music] um for the person division one section
[24:49] of 92025
[24:52] d-45 to be added to 92025 d400
[25:00] 039 um all those in favor say iose motion
[25:06] carries number B I'll make a motion to also authorize the plan commission's
[25:11] recommendation to approve the request for paral combination number 9202 D15
[25:16] d400 041 to be combined with number 9202 D15 d400 d045 Mark Brown R
[25:25] petitioner have mot motion in support to approve the request um for personal
[25:32] [Music] division one
[25:36] um we have a motion in support to approve the request the par of
[25:40] combination 02-1 15- 400- 041 to be combined with
[25:47] 92025 d400 d045 all those in favor say
[25:53] iOS motion carries um
[25:58] a number c um is basically administrative um
[26:04] consider one year uh extension of the current 2015 2024 capacity management
[26:10] operations and maintenance contract expiring
[26:17] December 31st 2025 2025 uh without changing the
[26:23] current rates um the county agency and Retail
[26:29] Community customers are operating on the 2015 2024 capacity management operation
[26:36] and maintenance contract the contract is set to expire on December 31st
[26:42] 2024 since the beginning of the fiscal year we have been tracking expense
[26:46] expenses associated with retail sanitor sewer Services while we have a
[26:52] lot of good data we believe it would be beneficial if we had a full year of
[26:56] track expenses it goes on but they're simply um asking um that this be
[27:03] extended by a year and expire December 31st
[27:08] 2025 so with that I will entertain a motion I'll make a motion to um
[27:16] authorize the one-year extension of the current 2015 to 2024 capacity management
[27:20] operations and maintenance contract that expires December 31st 2025 without
[27:25] change in the current rates
[27:29] support we motion of support to extend the onee extension of current 2015 2024
[27:36] capacity management operational maintenance
[27:40] cont there's also another table expiring December 31st
[27:45] 2024 um without change in the current um rates all those in favor say
[27:52] iose motion curies no this new contract that you're extending is going to expire
[27:58] December 31st 2025 yes that's why it was saying the
[28:04] new one that's going to expire you extended at one year I know it's but it
[28:08] expires December um 31st 2024 correct and we're going to extend
[28:13] it one okay so we're extending that by um item number D authorize um bc3 to
[28:22] install and configure four new office workstations at total cost of $2,100 I'm
[28:27] sure expand on that well you uh authorized uh us allowed us to purchase
[28:33] four new workstations and they need to be configured all of our information
[28:37] needs to be transferred over and the new computers need to be configured and um
[28:42] these uh vc3 says it takes about three hours per computer so that's what it's
[28:48] going to cost to do that work and they will be sending someone uh on site to do
[28:52] this well 2100 now
[29:00] I will make a motion to authorize vc3 to install and configure four new office
[29:03] work stations for a total cost of
[29:08] $2100 I'll that we have motion to support authorize inst 4 new office
[29:16] workstations for a total cost of $100 roll call
[29:21] please yes yeah yes yes
[29:29] yes item number e is the authorization of L Pion a cost of
[29:37] 7,610 that was a little bid by Eminem payment
[29:42] months that's a yeah it's a center lane fog
[29:48] Lane and the turn lane on EAD and Y Street the turn lane
[29:56] especially the one going up by 10 really F you can hardly see it we usually do it
[30:01] every couple years we haven't done a couple
[30:03] years let's do now that price
[30:07] included everything so the price will be a little cheaper because obviously we
[30:11] just did the new FL from town here so you won't do
[30:17] that do just
[30:21] middle so this be a little cheaper what's
[30:24] here random question only because have we worked this company uh they've always
[30:29] been the cheapest and they know our schules with buses and stuff
[30:40] that a motion then I will make a motion to authorize the line painting at a cost
[30:45] of $ 7,610 the low bid by Eminem pavement
[30:51] working from M Painting of $
[30:56] 7,610 by M&M markings roll call
[31:02] please yes yes
[31:06] yes yes yes all right this time we have a public
[31:13] comment for any any items we ask you state your
[31:21] name minutes morning guys
[31:29] I have a question on the monke survey is that going to totally be restricted to
[31:34] Village residents or can anybody could somebody in Rand blank or davidon how
[31:41] how would that be controlled that's a good question I know Sher might be able
[31:45] to answer it um I'm not sure I mean I I know
[31:49] thatst cards would be sent out do you know how they control
[31:55] that or not I know it can be control right
[31:59] okay one
[32:12] [Music]
[32:23] time we're doing a graphic study so that we can see how many how many trucks are
[32:27] are currently going down um heagle eastn heagle
[32:33] Woods who sets the numbers to decide get I'm not sure your question the
[32:40] biggest issue I see with it is fatality trucks going to be diverted from traffic
[32:47] in town to
[32:50] be not the traffic study we're doing I understand that my concern about the
[32:56] truck rout converted in towns all the local businesses go to town turn left
[33:02] have tra FL move all that truck traffic up here at Green ro we're not telling
[33:07] trucks where they can go it's naturally happen TR the next closest road to turn
[33:15] left is my concern so now you got 55 mph traffic at 7 o00 in the morning that are
[33:20] potentially going to run into these bus because they're in a hurry there run
[33:23] cars school buses it's a it's a horrible idea to move this traffic
[33:28] they need a light to turn thank
[33:36] you anyone else all right this time I close public
[33:41] comment move on to council
[33:50] comment I'll just make a a comment again um I I know it seems um misleading um
[33:58] again the only reason that this uh the the ordinance was on the agenda tonight
[34:05] was because of the way the motion was made last month it had to appear on the
[34:10] agenda because of the way the motion um uh was stated last month um we thought
[34:17] that we were going to have um more concrete information that we're
[34:23] looking for we're still trying to get some opinions from the lawyers still
[34:27] kind of get some other clarification um so we're still
[34:32] researching that that's why this has been proposed and then we would like to
[34:37] do um a study um as well and um you know the monthly surveys or the social media
[34:47] um is probably a good thing to do so that we get
[34:51] um get the opinions from other peoplein our community so that we can make a
[34:57] better decision anyone
[35:02] else I think said
[35:11] allent question Council comments
[35:17] know agenda or we just we all showed up
[35:23] tonight because would you have voted on it tonight probably
[35:28] exactly yes they would who big idea was this in the first
[35:33] place motion these
[35:39] three mine all right I'm and I'll tell you why let's
[35:55] not you got your other two here say I