[0:15] I got another one. I forgot.

[0:17] >> I would like to call this workshop

[0:20] meeting for the Grand County Commission

[0:24] 216 to order. We have an attendance

[0:27] Commissioner Martinez, Commissioner

[0:28] McGann, Commissioner

[0:31] >> I

[0:31] >> Curry, Commissioner Winfield and myself

[0:34] Commissioner McManus along with our

[0:37] administrator Mark Tyner, our

[0:39] uh

[0:42] deputy administrator

[0:44] uh Quinn Hall and I think that is all

[0:47] for right now for this meeting.

[0:49] So we our first agenda on the workshop

[0:53] with open up overview and updates and

[0:55] that was going to be with our attorney

[0:56] Steven Stocks but he's in court so we

[0:58] are going to our staff to feature one.

[1:02] So that was task number one off and then

[1:04] to number two. Number two is the

[1:07] policies and procedures of the governing

[1:09] body

[1:10] and when we met last meeting two weeks

[1:13] ago, we were going through this. We got

[1:16] to page 11.

[1:18] So that our last conversation that I

[1:20] have here was that

[1:23] before we put out any kind of

[1:25] information that we would

[1:27] give the commission

[1:29] prior the information prior to

[1:31] publishing. So that was our last comment

[1:33] on that top one. So if we move to C,

[1:36] um

[1:38] I will just go through these and number

[1:40] one,

[1:41] paragraph one, it if you have anything

[1:43] just stop me. I don't have see any

[1:45] comments on the side.

[1:48] Paragraph two,

[1:51] paragraph three,

[1:54] this is a comment. General reports

[1:57] should encompass all meetings that

[1:59] commission members attend as

[2:01] representatives of the organization.

[2:03] They should include a description of the

[2:04] meeting's content and are required as a

[2:07] component of the commission's

[2:08] responsibilities.

[2:11] >> I think that's a little bit

[2:13] overkill.

[2:15] I'll start that on the office as a

[2:17] requirement.

[2:18] >> But how about we recommend it?

[2:22] >> [clears throat]

[2:22] >> Okay, if you recommend it, but I mean

[2:24] each one of those meetings has minutes,

[2:25] too. And the ones

[2:26] >> Exactly. This is just an attempt to try

[2:29] and

[2:30] force all commissioners to

[2:34] write a brief about the meetings that

[2:35] they've been in.

[2:38] >> Right. And that's the difference.

[2:39] >> commissioner.

[2:41] >> At the uh um you know, the the beginning

[2:44] of when I started off here,

[2:46] we I I I went through and started

[2:48] telling everything that happened, and I

[2:50] was told that my reports were way too

[2:52] long and not needed, right? So, this is

[2:54] it's it's it's silly that someone's

[2:55] like, "Oh, no, we want now all that

[2:57] information." Right? I think that that's

[2:59] that that that is it is overburdensome

[3:01] to to to require us to go ahead and take

[3:03] all of our meeting notes, take all of

[3:05] our notes, and put them in inside of uh

[3:08] um

[3:09] inside inside of a report. Um I don't mind the written

[3:12] report, but I I do think that it should

[3:14] be the commissioner's

[3:16] um

[3:17] prerogative on how much they they

[3:19] include inside of that report right

[3:21] there. Um some commissioners go to quite

[3:23] a few more meetings than other

[3:24] commissioners. I know that I spent I I

[3:26] started last night at 8:00, and I didn't

[3:29] get finished until 12:30 when I went

[3:32] through my my commission report. Um and

[3:34] I don't want to have it to be that

[3:35] there's a requirement for me to do more

[3:37] than that or less than that, right? It's

[3:39] not fair when the the workload might not

[3:41] always be equally shared amongst all

[3:43] commissioners.

[3:46] >> Mary, I'm wondering if we could simplify

[3:48] it and say that uh

[3:49] commissioners should mention every uh

[3:52] meeting that they've attended as a

[3:53] representative.

[3:55] And uh

[3:57] either give a brief description or a

[4:00] link to the minutes.

[4:02] >> There's a lot of meetings that don't

[4:04] have any minutes.

[4:05] >> Well, then just say just briefly I met

[4:07] with, you know, just make it real

[4:09] simple. I I I agree with you. I don't

[4:11] want things really long and people won't

[4:13] read them if they're long.

[4:15] But just say you know, cuz sometimes I

[4:16] attend meetings that are on my

[4:20] to-do list, you know?

[4:22] >> Yeah.

[4:22] >> That would be nice to

[4:23] >> have meetings with people, you know,

[4:25] miss what I mean I I just did mine, too.

[4:27] It was took me about 2 hours to do my

[4:29] report today and I got to the very end

[4:31] and I didn't put any comments in the

[4:32] last four meetings that I've had cuz I

[4:34] just ran out of time.

[4:35] Before I got here today, you know, and

[4:37] try to put all that information in

[4:38] there. I think that if we just

[4:41] recommended, like if we just have a

[4:43] recommended, um so if you say general

[4:45] reports,

[4:47] they should encompass all the meetings

[4:49] that commission members attend as

[4:50] representatives of the organization and

[4:53] they

[4:54] can include

[4:56] description of the meetings.

[4:58] Let's actually change that part. So, if

[5:00] we take the first sentence

[5:02] and then we say

[5:05] recommended, we recommend a description

[5:09] of the meeting's content

[5:11] and other pertinent information.

[5:16] >> Keep it short.

[5:16] >> Would that make everybody happy? So,

[5:18] it's a recommended. So, the new new

[5:19] question is now, I mean, I try to put

[5:21] stuff in there and then it still has the

[5:23] piece on here that commission members

[5:25] can request that the chair place on the

[5:28] agenda a separate item if there's any

[5:29] reports that need, you know, some more

[5:31] detailed discussion. And we always do

[5:32] that anyways

[5:34] or, you know, at the end we've been

[5:35] allowing

[5:36] for people to elaborate on their reports

[5:38] if they would like to.

[5:40] So, hopefully Dana got that.

[5:42] >> [laughter]

[5:43] >> All right, number four.

[5:45] >> I just noticed that we didn't mention

[5:47] districts in there, but it then

[5:49] districts are included in six. So, is

[5:52] that clear enough?

[5:53] >> I'm down at districts.

[5:55] >> I think it's because of your any meeting

[5:58] should encompass all meetings that the

[6:00] commission members attend.

[6:03] Well, you know, because we didn't

[6:05] mention uh district meetings in the in

[6:07] that paragraph, but then districts are

[6:09] pointed out in number six. So, I was

[6:11] just wondering if we wanted to add

[6:14] uh

[6:15] are encouraged to attend any advisory

[6:17] board, commission

[6:20] >> Or you're already attending

[6:21] >> and district meetings informational

[6:23] purposes shall notify the commission.

[6:26] And then you just didn't mention it. I

[6:27] was just curious if it was an oversight

[6:30] or because it was mentioned again in

[6:32] number six, if that's where districts

[6:36] were mentioned.

[6:37] So, I didn't know if we wanted to put

[6:39] districts in there.

[6:39] >> Just cuz you're getting back to this, if

[6:40] we're going to go into this level of

[6:42] detail, I also think any uh um any

[6:45] meeting that commission members fail to

[6:47] attend or denied attending as well

[6:49] should be inside of it.

[6:52] » Well, no, I mean, if we're going to go

[6:53] to to we're going to nitpick,

[6:55] commissioner.

[6:56] >> Yeah, if we're going to get down into

[6:57] the level of

[6:57] >> I I would say in with if

[6:59] >> No, no, no, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm looking at the whole paragraph

[7:04] as itself, not talking to you. I'm just

[7:06] saying like if we want to get down to

[7:07] the level of detail like I want that,

[7:10] you know, to know what you, you know,

[7:11] who you met with and who you talked

[7:12] with, I think that also should be fair

[7:15] that we talk about um you know, what

[7:17] meetings did you deny that you that you

[7:19] went to or what meetings did you not

[7:21] attend that you that you were scheduled

[7:22] to attend.

[7:24] >> I think we should scratch this paragraph

[7:26] and make something very simple there,

[7:28] Mel. I'm not

[7:29] >> Well, hold on a second. My cousin says

[7:30] to have at it.

[7:31] >> Well, I just didn't want to open the

[7:32] door for Brian to uh talk for an hour at

[7:34] any meeting, so

[7:35] >> [laughter]

[7:36] >> I'm all for scratching the that bit.

[7:42] >> All right. So, what you do I mean I

[7:44] think that so this is the general if I

[7:46] just if we just don't look at the side

[7:48] comment that all

[7:52] that they shall regularly report

[7:54] to the commission

[7:56] verbally or in writing the gen in the

[7:58] general report section of the agenda or

[8:00] as necessary

[8:01] and just leave it at that and don't put

[8:03] any kind of requirements as far as a

[8:05] recommendation.

[8:06] >> I'm good with that.

[8:08] >> Yep.

[8:10] >> Okay.

[8:10] >> I like the verbally part yes.

[8:14] » All right. So we're not so comment on

[8:16] the side is just crossing it off.

[8:20] » Case number four I don't see any

[8:22] >> That's what that's what I was talking

[8:24] about number four. I'm sorry I thought

[8:26] we left number three.

[8:28] I'm so apologize

[8:30] I thought we left I thought we came to a

[8:31] conclusion that in in number four in

[8:34] number four we say advisory boards

[8:37] commission or commission

[8:39] committee meetings. We didn't put

[8:41] district meetings cuz we are also a

[8:43] site.

[8:43] >> Yeah I think it's because it is on

[8:45] number six.

[8:45] >> So that's what that's what I put or is

[8:48] number six enough? If it's enough then

[8:50] let's not worry about it otherwise just

[8:52] put the word district after

[8:56] committee meetings or put

[8:59] you know district meetings.

[9:01] >> I think six covers it.

[9:03] >> Okay. So the five is just about county

[9:05] committees.

[9:07] I was I was which is a different kind

[9:09] yeah I think it just breaks them all

[9:10] into the different kinds of iPhone

[9:12] boards.

[9:14] So the special service district boards

[9:16] number six.

[9:18] Number seven attendance there's a

[9:21] comment here

[9:22] that here this all dressers meeting

[9:25] go ahead Mike.

[9:27] >> Uh

[9:28] actually it says rearrange to get a

[9:30] reappointment. I don't know the wording

[9:32] on that but I can't

[9:35] number

[9:36] Okay.

[9:38] >> [clears throat]

[9:40] » Re- rearrange reappointment. Just try to

[9:43] get someone else there. I don't know the

[9:45] wording is correct on that or how how

[9:47] that's being said right there.

[9:48] >> When you shall arrange a reappointment

[9:52] >> to that same So if they cannot have

[9:55] regular attendance

[9:56] >> Yeah, if you can't regularly

[9:59] you would reappoint

[10:00] >> them the board up and let someone else

[10:02] do it.

[10:02] >> But if you just can't make it out a

[10:05] single then you would ask another

[10:08] commissioner

[10:09] >> Yep.

[10:10] >> And you may ask another commissioner to

[10:12] attend in their place. There's a comment

[10:13] here that says, I think it is important

[10:15] to address the situation where a

[10:17] substitute commissioner may be allowed

[10:19] and not allowed to cast a vote in that

[10:21] particular SSD or committee. I don't

[10:24] think that you get to vote. I mean so

[10:27] we're only I mean I'm only voting

[10:29] members on my SSDs.

[10:32] >> Special service district

[10:33] >> Yeah, my other boards that I'm on I'm

[10:34] not a

[10:36] >> I'm on the liaison.

[10:37] >> I'm liaison. I vote on the sand flat

[10:40] stewardship.

[10:41] That's different as well.

[10:42] >> I think what this pertains to like

[10:44] Mike's on the one the transportation SSD

[10:47] and occasionally I fill in.

[10:49] Do I have the authority to vote when I

[10:52] fill in or do I just abstain and I'm

[10:54] sitting there as

[10:55] >> I would think you would vote.

[10:57] >> Well, half the time he goes they're

[10:58] needed for

[11:00] >> I vote Yeah, I vote we saw it that

[11:03] >> There's a

[11:03] >> There by law say

[11:05] >> That's a good question.

[11:06] >> I would say it goes that in fall

[11:08] >> Commission member it's it's there by law

[11:10] say commission member. They don't say

[11:11] Mike.

[11:13] >> Yeah.

[11:13] >> So

[11:14] >> Or the liaison.

[11:15] >> Yeah, so that would lead you to think

[11:16] that you could vote.

[11:17] >> You can vote.

[11:19] >> So [clears throat] there is a training

[11:21] that I'm going to on June 23rd with

[11:24] LaGrande Bitters on SSD. That might be a

[11:27] good question for him. Right there is

[11:29] how you know it

[11:31] on that SSD board can someone basically

[11:33] fill in for you or is that or is that is

[11:36] that cuz that board does have

[11:39] autonomy, right? I think that you want

[11:41] to make sure that you're still

[11:41] respecting that autonomy of that board

[11:43] right there. And having someone fill in

[11:45] for you might kind of break that might

[11:48] break that. I mean, I think of it almost

[11:50] like a corporate veil.

[11:51] >> Well, we might not even know what's

[11:52] going on, you know, to vote. Um, I think

[11:55] that's great. That's next Tuesday. I

[11:56] won't be there. So, will you make sure

[11:58] to ask that and we can follow and then

[11:59] we can

[12:00] follow up with this when we do take it

[12:02] if if it's something we need to address.

[12:07] >> I don't know [laughter] that.

[12:09] It's I don't know if we need to put this

[12:11] It just came up. I apologize for not

[12:13] thinking of it. It is a question on the

[12:14] side about it. Um

[12:16] >> It'd be good to know either which way.

[12:18] >> Yeah. I think we'll default to that

[12:20] training for SSDs or SSDs and let us

[12:23] know.

[12:25] Uh

[12:26] >> On the SSDs, I found out and I don't

[12:29] know if it's important to put in here.

[12:31] Uh

[12:32] it's important that we as uh

[12:35] on special service districts, we cannot

[12:38] act as chair or vice chair.

[12:42] That's what I was told by the auditor.

[12:45] I was chair of a special service

[12:46] district for a couple years before I was

[12:49] told that

[12:50] >> You should We ask that Is anybody else

[12:52] going to that meeting next up?

[12:53] >> I'm going to see where I'm at. I was you

[12:54] know, I have it on my schedule, but

[12:57] >> That'd be good to ask too cuz I mean,

[12:58] I'm on some SSDs that we have county

[13:01] council people that are vice chairs.

[13:04] >> County council or city city council

[13:06] >> City council can't because it's not a

[13:09] Grand County special service district.

[13:12] That's what makes it different. If it's

[13:14] a Grand County special service district,

[13:17] then we can't be chair or vice chair.

[13:21] But this but usually what ends up is

[13:23] like on our count on our on our auditor

[13:26] told us it was fine.

[13:28] Then our

[13:29] it usually ends up being the

[13:31] city commissioner that's the chair.

[13:33] Yeah.

[13:34] Cuz they're the most consistent and they

[13:35] last longer.

[13:38] And

[13:39] So I don't know if there's it's

[13:41] important to say I should

[13:43] information. I don't know if we want to

[13:44] put it in there cuz I accidentally did

[13:46] it. I had no

[13:47] >> I don't know if it goes in our bylaws

[13:48] but it would be good because it should

[13:50] really be in their bylaws.

[13:52] It should really be in SSD's bylaws but

[13:55] it I don't know that it always is.

[13:57] >> I have to check to see if it is in ours.

[13:59] I don't I don't remember.

[14:03] >> Cuz we kind of think we just redid ours.

[14:06] >> But but I just remembered that

[14:08] I had served as chair for a couple three

[14:11] years and then the auditor said, "Oh, this is

[14:14] not good idea."

[14:15] >> Okay.

[14:16] >> [laughter]

[14:16] >> We're going to

[14:16] >> Oh, good. I was so glad to get rid of

[14:18] that.

[14:19] >> We're going to look at our SSD's bylaws

[14:21] and see. I don't know that we'll add it

[14:22] in this but it's good to have. Okay.

[14:25] Now D, duties of the chair.

[14:29] >> That all looks good. It's just cleaning

[14:31] it up.

[14:32] >> Yeah, it looks good to me. I didn't have

[14:34] any questions.

[14:39] I wonder if we could

[14:41] combine eight and nine.

[14:44] Seems redundant.

[14:45] >> Roll call at the chair's discretion. The

[14:47] chair may require a roll call vote but

[14:49] as long as expenditure funds.

[14:52] Motions may be determined by voice vote,

[14:55] show of hands, or at the request of any

[14:57] commissioner by roll call.

[14:59] >> I was in an in an open meeting training

[15:02] at CIB last week

[15:05] where roll call vote on expenditures is

[15:08] mandatory per OMA.

[15:12] Just bringing that back.

[15:14] >> We used to always do it

[15:16] >> [clears throat]

[15:16] >> for bills.

[15:17] >> This says may so I don't know if Stephen

[15:20] would want to weigh in on that. That's a

[15:22] question for him, but in our old my

[15:24] training for CIB

[15:27] state [clears throat] law is mandatory

[15:29] or the roll call vote and it was

[15:31] questioned by several other

[15:32] commissioners, not just myself in that

[15:34] training.

[15:36] >> Because they weren't doing it either.

[15:37] >> But we were for years.

[15:39] That was

[15:41] We would [clears throat] always do roll

[15:42] call vote on when we voted on the uh

[15:44] bills.

[15:45] >> Yeah, I don't know.

[15:46] >> I don't remember that.

[15:48] >> Any hard feelings.

[15:49] >> So then we take bills off of the consent

[15:51] agenda then. We would have to take bills

[15:53] off.

[15:53] >> We could take I mean we might want to if

[15:55] cuz it

[15:56] take uh bills off consent agenda and

[15:59] then have roll call vote.

[16:02] >> And then anytime we purchase or buy

[16:03] anything

[16:04] >> Anything that has a fiscal impact would

[16:06] be a roll call vote.

[16:09] >> Okay.

[16:09] >> That was what my training said and

[16:12] multiple in the room commissioners said,

[16:14] "We're not doing that." And I said,

[16:16] "We're not

[16:16] >> or

[16:17] with in budget bill or out of budget or

[16:20] Would that mean that every time like we

[16:22] couldn't put consent?

[16:24] >> We're going to ask Stephen. We're going

[16:26] to have to find out.

[16:26] >> Yeah.

[16:27] >> Yep.

[16:27] >> We're going to ask him if he could get

[16:29] roll call.

[16:29] >> I'll send him an email or somebody will

[16:31] so that we'd be doing roll call.

[16:32] >> Okay.

[16:36] So I don't think that we should combine

[16:38] eight and nine, but we should clarify

[16:40] roll call votes.

[16:45] » And so 10

[16:47] 11

[16:49] Oops.

[16:51] All right.

[16:52] On number 12, I just had a question.

[16:55] Uh

[16:56] cuz I looked in

[16:59] I don't think in uh Robert's Rules that

[17:02] chairs are

[17:04] prohibited from making

[17:07] motions or seconding it.

[17:10] Am I correct?

[17:12] >> You're correct, ma'am.

[17:13] >> So I'm wondering why we have that in our

[17:15] bylaws. I'm just wondering why cuz

[17:18] usually you don't need to but I mean

[17:21] if you want to have the discussion

[17:23] sometimes

[17:26] I don't know.

[17:27] I just always wondered why we had that.

[17:29] >> did it this year.

[17:31] Kevin Walker did it last year. I just

[17:33] went based off of that so

[17:35] >> We it's always been the rule in ours but

[17:37] I've always had questioned why.

[17:40] are we making our stricter than

[17:42] Robert's Rules? I don't know. I would

[17:45] take it out.

[17:46] >> I just

[17:47] >> It's easier in the meetings but like one

[17:50] meeting we only had a quorum.

[17:56] I can't remember how it worked and it

[17:57] was really awkward that the chair

[17:59] couldn't make a motion or second.

[18:02] We only had four people.

[18:05] And it made the meeting very awkward. So

[18:07] I just always wondered why we did it.

[18:10] >> I'll add that to my email to Stephen.

[18:16] » Yeah, looking in Robert's Rules right

[18:17] here, it's a

[18:19] it's it's more of a

[18:22] dealing with large bodies or small

[18:25] bodies. So in a large body, it's it's

[18:29] not recommended that the chair make

[18:31] motions but in a small body

[18:34] it

[18:35] they use the word should. Right? So it

[18:37] should not. So it's

[18:38] not a not a must not or will not. It's a

[18:41] should not. What about if we just change

[18:42] it to should?

[18:45] >> Okay. Okay. So the chair should not and

[18:48] that way if the chair wants to

[18:50] >> Chair wants to break it they can do it.

[18:56] I mean

[18:56] >> It can get kind of awkward sometimes. It

[18:59] I can't remember why it did that one

[19:01] time.

[19:04] » It's like well which one of the two of

[19:06] us are going to yeah. I I agree it's it

[19:08] definitely is something that could be

[19:09] changed.

[19:10] >> Okay.

[19:11] Moving on.

[19:12] 13.

[19:14] So, this is something that I added here

[19:16] and it's a commission priority

[19:18] statement. So,

[19:19] working with the vice chair and the

[19:21] chair shall produce and maintain a

[19:23] rolling commission priority statement.

[19:25] And so, I'm going to roll this out after

[19:27] we approve the I have mine ready and

[19:29] I'll roll it out after we approve these

[19:31] policies and procedures, but the

[19:33] priority statement is a plain language

[19:35] articulation of the majority's governing

[19:37] philosophy and the commission's current

[19:38] priorities.

[19:40] And updated quarterly. I don't know if

[19:42] that's something that's

[19:44] >> important.

[19:44] >> Don't you?

[19:45] >> Yeah, the priority statement is a

[19:47] working governance document, not an

[19:49] ordinance or resolution. Does not

[19:51] require a vote of the membership to

[19:52] adopt or update.

[19:54] And then it will be publicly accessible

[19:56] on county websites.

[19:58] It's connected to the long-range plan,

[20:00] so it's based on the general plan that

[20:02] we have currently in place.

[20:04] It's limited to no more than 10 active

[20:06] priorities at a time.

[20:08] And it's

[20:10] communicated to all of our

[20:12] boards and staff.

[20:15] >> Commissions and committees.

[20:17] >> And so, it shall serve as a primary

[20:18] reference for the administrator in

[20:19] aligning staff resources and

[20:21] departmental work with plans for the

[20:22] commission direction.

[20:24] I'm going to take out the quarterly

[20:26] >> Yeah, that would be every six meeting

[20:27] after every six meeting.

[20:29] >> I think it's a something to base your

[20:31] you know, if it doesn't fit in the plan,

[20:32] then maybe you don't do it, but

[20:34] it's to create a baseline so that we

[20:36] have future

[20:38] so that maybe [clears throat] we can

[20:39] have some continuity through the future.

[20:41] So, if I have 10 priorities and then the

[20:42] next chair can go through those

[20:44] priorities and either move them around,

[20:46] maybe take out some, add some, but to

[20:48] continue some continuity of the plan for

[20:51] the county is my thoughts on that.

[20:53] >> Mhm.

[20:53] And is was that the intent kind of words

[20:55] maintain a rolling?

[20:57] >> Maintain a rolling.

[20:58] >> Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that

[21:00] that's that's what you were

[21:01] thinking of with that so that that

[21:03] you try to continue to work.

[21:06] >> Yeah. yeah.

[21:07] Okay. So, the commission administrator,

[21:11] so it's your mark's job.

[21:17] So, the comment is that, let's see.

[21:22] The highlighted says the allocation of

[21:24] staff time, budget, and organizational

[21:26] resources constitutes a policy function.

[21:28] The administrator shall align resource

[21:30] allocation with the commission's adopted

[21:32] objectives and the chair's current

[21:33] commission priority statement. So, this

[21:36] goes back to number 13.

[21:38] They and shall not direct staff

[21:40] resources toward activities that

[21:42] contradict the commission's adopted

[21:44] direction. The administrator shall

[21:46] coordinate commissioner engagement with

[21:48] staff to protect staff, maintain

[21:49] accountability, and ensure alignment

[21:51] with adopted policy. And the comment

[21:53] says we're going to have to work on

[21:55] this. I think it's a positive thing to

[21:56] have an annual direction. However, the

[21:58] reality is that we will occasionally

[22:00] have to deviate from these priorities to

[22:02] handle important situations as they

[22:04] arise. I would modify the wording very much to acknowledge it. And I

[22:07] agree, you're not going to every single

[22:09] thing we that comes before the

[22:10] commission isn't going to fit in those

[22:12] 10 cuz you're going to have stuff that

[22:14] arises, but I think that if when you're

[22:16] bringing on like a new um

[22:18] So, let's see. I don't know how we would

[22:19] change the wording to acknowledge this.

[22:22] Anybody have any comments?

[22:23] >> Just something along the lines of um

[22:27] Just leave it open for [clears throat]

[22:28] emergency.

[22:31] Or for

[22:32] imminent

[22:34] policy issues that arise. I mean,

[22:37] something

[22:37] >> Unexpect unexpected

[22:39] um

[22:40] needs.

[22:43] So, at the very [clears throat] end, if

[22:44] we put leaving room for

[22:47] >> unexpected needs.

[22:48] okay.

[22:49] >> Sure. Go.

[22:51] >> Yes.

[22:52] >> The administrator shall endeavor to

[22:55] align resource allocation. Would that

[22:56] fix it everything?

[22:58] >> The administrator shall

[23:00] >> shall endeavor to align resource

[23:01] allocation. We just like or attempt or

[23:06] put forth an effort.

[23:07] >> Endeavor.

[23:10] Should we still put leaving room for it?

[23:12] Or you think

[23:12] >> Well, cuz then it softens the shell

[23:14] language. Is That's the only thing I

[23:16] would look for is for it to soften that

[23:17] shell

[23:18] a little bit to address

[23:21] >> [clears throat]

[23:21] >> Commissioner Martinez's concerns.

[23:23] >> Okay. If we just put endeavor shall

[23:25] endeavor. So, that's the second pair

[23:28] second sentence in that paragraph.

[23:30] >> Yeah, I think that would be fine. The

[23:31] other thing is is we could also just

[23:33] even add in a statement that says, you

[23:34] know,

[23:35] um you know, unless you know, without

[23:37] consulting with the chair or in in

[23:39] consultation with the chair right there

[23:41] could also provide that that

[23:43] flexibility.

[23:58] » Where do you want to put I was just

[23:59] reading again. I don't know where to put

[24:01] that in there too. You know.

[24:06] » And I think so let's put

[24:07] >> you had covered it Melody.

[24:09] >> Oh, so leaving room for for at the end.

[24:13] You still want that to go in there?

[24:15] >> That's fine.

[24:15] >> I think that covers it.

[24:17] >> Yeah, that's fine.

[24:18] >> Leaving room for I forget the verbage

[24:20] you had. Do you want

[24:21] >> Leaving room for emergency

[24:25] » unexpected need.

[24:27] >> Unexpected unexpected needs.

[24:28] >> Unexpected.

[24:33] Circumstances.

[24:41] » Okay. So,

[24:42] >> prepares the agenda

[24:44] and the commission meetings.

[24:50] Attending meetings.

[24:53] Subcommittees.

[24:54] Every six is good. Seven's good. Eight.

[24:59] nine.

[25:03] Okay, so this is the new one added as

[25:05] well and this is F

[25:07] is the election cycle transition and

[25:09] training. So we're talking about when a

[25:11] new new commissioners come on.

[25:13] So the commission administration shall

[25:14] provide each newly elected commissioner

[25:17] no later than the first week of December

[25:19] following the general election and

[25:20] orientation packet that includes the

[25:22] current commission priority statement,

[25:24] status of the active commission

[25:25] objectives, the policies and procedures

[25:27] of the governing body

[25:29] >> I'm on the wrong spot.

[25:30] >> Well, I think that yours doesn't have

[25:32] the update of mine. So a county email

[25:35] address for official use.

[25:37] >> Oh, yeah. He talked about that the other

[25:39] day.

[25:40] >> Yep, you need to

[25:41] >> I have that.

[25:42] >> Yeah, so it's

[25:42] >> Yeah, well I used the one from last

[25:44] week.

[25:44] >> Oh, yeah. Go to

[25:45] >> I have my notes on it. Well, then I got

[25:46] my

[25:46] >> Me too. I had my notes on it. I was

[25:48] doing the same thing.

[25:49] >> So page 50 is the one that's

[25:51] >> That's page 50.

[25:52] >> Okay, we're jumping over to this one.

[25:54] >> [laughter]

[25:55] >> Let's just keep both.

[25:58] >> Okay. So that says the county email

[26:01] address for official use and I think

[26:02] they do look into that that we could do

[26:04] that we have enough space to add

[26:07] elects.

[26:08] >> We can make it happen, I think.

[26:09] >> Okay.

[26:11] An orientation packet, the current

[26:13] commission priority statement, status of

[26:15] the active commission objectives, the

[26:16] policies and procedures of the governing

[26:18] body

[26:19] with particular attention to section

[26:21] B10, council member involvement

[26:23] operational issues, and the county's

[26:25] adopted long-range plan and other

[26:27] current planning documents as determined

[26:28] by the administrator in consultation

[26:30] with the chair.

[26:32] So the comment is I'm not sure what this

[26:34] means. I would assume that long-range

[26:36] planning should be done via work through

[26:38] at the beginning of each year.

[26:42] It should be.

[26:44] >> I don't see a problem.

[26:45] >> that it needs to start happening. So I

[26:47] mean I think that there is some long um

[26:49] we don't currently have an adopted

[26:51] long-range plan but definitely something

[26:53] that we can work toward.

[26:55] Do we want to take that out because we

[26:57] don't currently have it?

[27:00] » The general plan is our long-range plan.

[27:02] >> Yeah, it is.

[27:04] And honestly, they should be getting I I

[27:05] thought one of the first thing I was

[27:06] asked for when I was a commissioner

[27:07] Shinar was her Alicia to put that for

[27:10] me, so

[27:12] >> Steve, when you have questions, go

[27:14] >> I'm wondering if

[27:14] >> [laughter]

[27:15] >> I was like going backwards now.

[27:17] >> Do you want to go backwards or go to the

[27:19] end and then come back?

[27:20] >> Well, at least give them a heads up so

[27:21] they can think about it.

[27:23] I think I've taken a couple

[27:25] Yeah, questions here.

[27:26] >> Yeah, I'd say keep [laughter] going.

[27:27] >> Okay,

[27:28] so we're going to continue on this same

[27:30] section.

[27:32] Still the newbies, the new commissioners.

[27:37] The administrator shall conduct a

[27:39] structured briefing session for incoming

[27:41] commissioners together with the county

[27:42] attorney covering the county's current

[27:44] governance direction and the role of

[27:46] each office in policy execution.

[27:49] Um, comment is replaced with

[27:51] orientation. That's fine with me. Seems

[27:53] to be a little bit easier actually.

[27:55] Orientation.

[27:58] And number two, ongoing governance

[28:00] training. Commissioners and the

[28:01] commission administrator shall

[28:02] participate in governance training no

[28:04] less than once per year addressing role

[28:07] boundaries, the policy administration

[28:09] distinction, board oversight, and open

[28:11] meetings compliance. Training shall be

[28:13] provided by or in coordination with Utah

[28:16] Association of Counties and

[28:17] International City/County Management

[28:20] Association or the qualified provider

[28:22] and shall be incorporated into the

[28:23] annual meeting schedule approved each

[28:24] December.

[28:26] Newly elected commissioners shall

[28:27] complete initial governance training

[28:29] within 90 days of taking office.

[28:31] I think that currently happens. It just

[28:33] wasn't stated.

[28:35] So now it's in our

[28:36] policies and procedures.

[28:39] Good. Okay.

[28:40] >> And it is nice getting that email

[28:42] earlier because I think I remember that

[28:43] those trainings started prior to

[28:46] becoming a commissioner. So, I know that

[28:48] I I spent the first month of being a

[28:51] commissioner trying to move all of my

[28:53] contacts and my emails from my personal

[28:56] email over to my commission email. So,

[28:59] that would definitely help out with how

[29:01] that timing works.

[29:03] >> Yeah, I agree.

[29:07] All right.

[29:09] So, subcommittees?

[29:12] I feel like we should discuss these

[29:13] because there has been some like

[29:15] controversial areas of subcommittees.

[29:17] So, establishment of a subcommittee, the

[29:19] commission may choose to appoint a

[29:21] subcommittee of its members

[29:23] and other stakeholders and subject

[29:26] matter experts for the purpose of

[29:28] researching, reviewing, and recommending

[29:29] to the governing body action on

[29:31] particular issues, problems, and areas

[29:32] of interest.

[29:34] Subcommittees are not executive bodies

[29:37] and the subcommittee chair has no

[29:38] executive authority. The governing body

[29:40] may, however, authorize a subcommittee

[29:42] to undertake specific tasks.

[29:44] Commission members are not obligated to

[29:46] vote according to subcommittee

[29:47] recommendations.

[29:50] So, they shall not consist of more than

[29:52] three commission members.

[29:55] And what is it? Subcommittee meeting

[29:57] best practices?

[30:00] So, we would create this if we need a

[30:02] subcommittee meeting best practices.

[30:05] We're going to cross this off.

[30:08] Is there anything you guys can think of

[30:10] for your in your subcommittees?

[30:11] >> No, I think I think actually having subcommittee best practices would

[30:16] be beneficial.

[30:18] Um

[30:19] just because there there is no I mean,

[30:21] we we say it's subcommittee chair and I

[30:23] don't know if we have a chair of any of

[30:24] the subcommittees I've gone on.

[30:26] Right? It's kind of just more of an

[30:27] informational gathering,

[30:30] you know, like type of process.

[30:32] So, I don't know if

[30:34] >> electing a body and

[30:35] >> Yeah, but but we don't we don't have we

[30:37] don't have any rubrics for what those

[30:39] best practices are. So, I do think that

[30:41] having a best practices that all

[30:42] subcommittees follow would be would be

[30:45] helpful, at least to me.

[30:48] » Go ahead.

[30:49] >> Yeah, I think one of the things that

[30:51] might be a good idea to recommend in

[30:52] best practices is defining the scope.

[30:55] So, once you establish a subcommittee

[30:56] having it stay within that scope and

[30:58] definition and then having some rules about membership, you know,

[31:02] in the event that a member is unable to

[31:04] attend, they can select another person

[31:05] to go in their stead. Just some of the

[31:07] things that

[31:09] you know, if we're we're looking at

[31:10] setting those best practices. I think

[31:11] scope is the biggest one and then

[31:14] how they provide that information to the

[31:16] full commission. You might want to

[31:18] solidify how that recommendation comes

[31:20] across and what way, how updates are

[31:22] provided. I think that information could

[31:25] be good if you put some language that

[31:28] would say, hey look,

[31:29] every quarter, every 6 months, however

[31:32] long,

[31:33] set a guideline on when the subcommittee

[31:36] would come back to the full body provide

[31:38] additional information. Items like that

[31:39] might be helpful cuz sometimes we have

[31:42] subcommittees and they exist, but

[31:45] individuals that are not a part of that

[31:46] subcommittee may or may not know where

[31:47] the status is and it's not necessarily

[31:50] that thing to put some

[31:52] aspirational language as to how often

[31:54] they report. So, those would be my

[31:55] things that maybe I'd suggest.

[31:58] >> So, we need to work on this piece. We

[31:59] need to work on this piece a little bit

[32:01] more. And uh

[32:03] I think

[32:04] quarterly comes around really fast.

[32:07] Well, I feel like think

[32:09] uh all right,

[32:10] you know, twice a year would be enough.

[32:13] >> Well, there's a lot of stuff that

[32:14] happens in subcommittees. They sometimes

[32:16] move really fast. I you know, we would

[32:18] have been adding our I mean, we haven't

[32:21] had any meetings for our um

[32:25] fixed highway tax there public safety

[32:27] building for a while because we're

[32:28] waiting on the RFP, but when we were

[32:29] having them, we had them listed with the

[32:33] we had them weekly and we had updates on

[32:35] our right there with the same spot, not

[32:37] only on her I mean and then like for my

[32:39] report, I would just say see attachment

[32:42] because there was always an attachment

[32:43] under the general commission reports and

[32:46] future considerations that had that

[32:48] sub-committee. So maybe we need in that

[32:50] to have a sub-committee update

[32:52] that's added on those.

[32:55] >> After Maybe you could say after so many

[32:57] meetings.

[32:58] Because like you said,

[33:00] you know, like sometimes like you'll

[33:02] have meeting meeting meeting meeting and then you'll go

[33:05] Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm trying to say

[33:06] instead of saying quarterly or bi-yearly

[33:09] just say after three meetings report or

[33:12] after four meetings report to the

[33:14] committee what's going on.

[33:15] >> Well, could it

[33:16] >> [laughter]

[33:16] >> Oh, could it possibly be that that's

[33:18] defined in the scope? So we say that,

[33:20] you know, at the formation of the

[33:22] sub-committee,

[33:23] um you know, the sub-committee will

[33:25] decide like does the sub-committee need

[33:26] a chair? Right? Does the sub-committee

[33:28] going to meet, you know, just setting

[33:30] the basic parameters. When is that

[33:32] reporting? And then they could bring

[33:33] that back. At least that's That's just

[33:35] part of that best practices. It's a

[33:37] little sheet even that we just fill out

[33:38] and say, "Okay, check box one, two, and

[33:40] three." And then and then then the

[33:43] sub-committee could move and

[33:44] sub-committees Some sub-committees might

[33:46] want to report back, you know, every

[33:48] commission because it might be a hot

[33:49] topic that needs to happen or it might

[33:51] be something that, "Hey, this is just

[33:52] something that we're looking at for

[33:54] long-range planning and it doesn't need

[33:55] to be reported but once a year."

[33:57] >> Or when something major happens.

[33:59] >> Yeah. For example, like you know, I'm on

[34:00] the flooding sub-committee. We've met

[34:02] three times since I've been a

[34:04] commissioner. We meet meeting meeting

[34:05] but it's not something we meet all the

[34:07] time but for example, we're working on

[34:08] the artist channels sub-committee right

[34:11] now and we're meeting two

[34:13] to three times a week. And so things are

[34:15] moving faster that we should probably be

[34:17] putting report in

[34:19] as a separate report versus just in our

[34:24] » If you if you establish a floor, if you

[34:27] say, "Hey,

[34:28] we'll give a report twice a year." You

[34:31] guys can always report more than that.

[34:33] Um but sometimes the the public or even

[34:35] the commission kind of forgets about a

[34:37] subcommittee existing if they're dormant

[34:39] and they don't do a lot of things. So,

[34:41] having updates, you know, I think twice

[34:43] a year would be helpful. Um and if

[34:45] there's not that many updates, the

[34:47] question is raised on whether we want a

[34:49] subcommittee or not. So, just additional

[34:51] food for food for thought.

[34:52] >> So, maybe in the define the scope

[34:54] definition and how often and reporting

[34:56] would be one section and then Okay.

[34:59] We're going to work on this piece and

[35:01] bring it back.

[35:03] Have it Well, we'll have it ready

[35:04] hopefully for the vote, but

[35:05] um

[35:07] moving on to commission meetings.

[35:09] I'll just go through these.

[35:11] Let me know if there's any comments on 1

[35:13] 2 3.

[35:17] You know, I have two.

[35:19] Okay, so this is Let's just go ahead and

[35:21] look at

[35:22] um

[35:26] » Oh, where are we at?

[35:28] >> We're on number three. I didn't know if

[35:29] that was talking about three. That's

[35:31] just when they they start. They start at

[35:33] 4:00.

[35:35] And they'll be noticed. Special

[35:37] meetings, emergency meetings,

[35:40] workshops, joint workshops,

[35:43] agenda.

[35:48] Moving on to page 18.

[35:52] » We talked about joint meetings that

[35:54] compared to

[35:59] >> Joint workshops.

[36:02] Did you have a comment on that one, Rex

[36:03] Marion?

[36:04] >> In the past, we've had joint

[36:06] meetings.

[36:08] with Castle

[36:10] Valley, City of Moab, Grand County.

[36:15] Uh where they were meetings, not

[36:16] workshops, and we usually had an agenda

[36:19] and an action item when they were joint

[36:22] meetings.

[36:23] >> And you get the commit This commission

[36:24] has one this year.

[36:26] >> But they didn't have any action

[36:27] >> [laughter]

[36:27] >> Well, we didn't have any action item.

[36:29] >> So technically that was more of a

[36:30] workshop. Well, we have we haven't for

[36:33] years, but we I don't think since

[36:36] COVID. But

[36:38] with prior to COVID, but we had a few

[36:40] workshops that we voted on resolutions

[36:44] really where we wanted to have a real

[36:46] strong resolution

[36:48] that had all three bodies saying this is

[36:51] >> [cough]

[36:51] >> what we want.

[36:53] >> I I I think you could add in objective

[36:55] paragraph or a number in commission

[36:57] meetings just so that that talks about

[37:00] how joint meetings happen. I think it's

[37:02] the

[37:03] uh the chair working with the

[37:05] >> [laughter]

[37:06] >> mayor or whoever the chair of the other

[37:08] body is. I think there would be

[37:10] >> It's the chair It's the mayor It's the

[37:11] mayor since I'm mayor of

[37:13] >> And and I I will have a request for the commission and the city to do a

[37:18] joint meeting on domestic violence in

[37:20] October. Um

[37:21] >> And you might want to have

[37:22] >> Is that a workshop or a meeting?

[37:24] >> We We're going to point at the the group

[37:26] that we're working with, the ICCR. Uh we

[37:28] were going to ask for a joint resolution

[37:30] cuz it's domestic violence awareness month in October. And so just

[37:34] >> And and those joint

[37:36] resolutions are powerful.

[37:38] >> Yeah.

[37:39] >> You know, when you say every elected

[37:41] body in this county believes

[37:44] [clears throat] that this is a priority.

[37:46] So I I I I underline that that

[37:51] there's a difference between a joint

[37:52] workshop and a joint meeting.

[37:56] » Okay, we will add in a joint meetings.

[38:00] >> Okay, please.

[38:01] » [clears throat]

[38:01] >> Thank you.

[38:03] Okay.

[38:05] So workshops

[38:09] So agenda We're on page 18 now.

[38:12] 15.

[38:14] Okay, so the suggested suggested

[38:17] order

[38:19] for items in order will be determined by

[38:20] the chair.

[38:22] I know these have been moved around a

[38:23] lot in the last 3 and 1/2, so

[38:27] The key to this is the citizens to be

[38:29] heard.

[38:30] We want to just have one citizen to be

[38:32] heard, and it will not be before 5:00.

[38:38] So, put it on the agenda

[38:40] kind of midway, and

[38:43] we're only going to do one.

[38:44] >> Would it be possible to maybe change the

[38:46] word citizens to be heard, maybe

[38:48] community members to be heard, or

[38:49] something different than citizens?

[38:52] >> I agree.

[38:53] >> I don't know what word you pick, but

[38:56] >> What's wrong with a citizen?

[38:57] >> Because we have people that aren't

[38:58] citizens that talk all the time.

[39:00] >> They aren't?

[39:02] Well, we don't I don't know that the

[39:03] commission cares if if somebody wasn't a

[39:05] US citizen in a lawful capacity.

[39:07] >> I don't know what you're saying. It does

[39:08] respect Okay, I'm open to that.

[39:10] >> Yeah, and we have people from Colorado

[39:11] that talk, and we have people that live

[39:13] in California that talk. I mean, we

[39:15] don't just only have like Grand County

[39:17] citizens.

[39:18] >> That implied

[39:19] >> commu- uh

[39:21] >> public

[39:21] >> Or public Or public comment. Public

[39:24] comment.

[39:25] >> Yeah.

[39:28] » Public comment.

[39:32] The I just want to give some background

[39:35] as to why we chose four and six.

[39:38] It was after meeting with uh various We

[39:41] went to that We met with and talked to

[39:44] various businesses,

[39:46] and like and uh

[39:48] large employers.

[39:52] And their comment was that in a in a

[39:55] community where we have

[39:58] a high uh service industry,

[40:02] a lot of times they're

[40:05] you know, we had it at 4:00 because it it helped with the shift changes. We

[40:11] had That's why we had it at 4:00 because

[40:13] a lot of people, if they they may go to

[40:15] work at 5:00.

[40:18] Anyway, it it was a it was not like a

[40:21] decision made in a vacuum like oh, let's

[40:24] do it this way. Yeah, there was a lot of

[40:26] communication with Chamber of Commerce,

[40:29] Chamber of people and we came up well,

[40:31] if we're going to if we truly want to

[40:34] give our public if we want to say public

[40:36] now

[40:37] uh

[40:38] and we want to hear from them

[40:41] we and we want to you know, come across

[40:44] as being open to hearing from them.

[40:47] Let's make it as easy for them as

[40:48] possible.

[40:50] And that was and I never when I was

[40:52] chairing never found it to be that

[40:54] burdensome to just stop at 6:00 or close

[40:58] to and say

[41:00] uh

[41:02] you know, you

[41:03] most of the time you don't, but

[41:05] sometimes you'd have people that

[41:06] couldn't make it to 6:00.

[41:08] So, I'll go I'm not going to I'm not

[41:11] falling on any sword for this. I just

[41:13] wanted to let you know that it wasn't

[41:15] made in a vacuum and there was a lot of

[41:16] thought put into it. Thank you.

[41:18] >> Mike

[41:20] >> Uh also with

[41:22] if we're looking at changing it, can we

[41:24] review

[41:25] >> [cough]

[41:25] >> on

[41:26] public comment period? A lot of people

[41:28] have approached me and said

[41:30] why can't you guys answer questions

[41:32] while they're asking them and a lot of

[41:34] people and

[41:37] I know, but we really want to say that

[41:39] it's time for the public to add public

[41:42] comment, but it's not it's not a back

[41:44] and forth between the commissioners and

[41:45] the public.

[41:46] Can we put that out when we put this

[41:48] out?

[41:48] >> It's Yeah, I think we get I think

[41:50] there's a spot in here to talk about

[41:51] that.

[41:53] If it's not in this, it's in the hand

[41:54] somewhere where it talks about what it's

[41:55] not up

[41:56] We'll see when we get there.

[41:57] >> I will say that

[41:59] I think one is more than enough to have

[42:03] in the meeting. I do think it needs to

[42:04] be a little bit later so that other

[42:06] people can

[42:08] make it here that aren't able to get off

[42:10] earlier as Mary said, but I'll also

[42:13] state that there are many counties in

[42:15] the state of Utah that do not allow

[42:17] public comment at all. So, I think that

[42:21] going with and going above and beyond

[42:23] and just kind of narrowing this down to

[42:26] make our meetings a little bit shorter

[42:28] anywhere that we can.

[42:30] >> Well,

[42:31] my biggest concern is that if we

[42:34] continue with the 4 and the 6 and the

[42:35] people come down here at 6 and we're

[42:37] adjourned.

[42:38] >> Well, I loved what you put in the back

[42:40] and it that made it so clear in the

[42:43] agenda that if the

[42:44] commission I mean that's how it has to

[42:45] be is in the agenda today.

[42:47] >> But then they have to make sure that

[42:48] they hear by 4:00 whereas if we move it

[42:50] a little bit, the other thing is that

[42:51] people can zoom in so that makes it nice

[42:53] if they know they can't be here at 5:00

[42:56] because they just got off work but they

[42:58] can they can zoom in. So, if we say not

[43:00] before 5:00. The other thing is we've

[43:02] had people angry because we have things

[43:06] that go longer when you like a workshop

[43:09] or some of our other closed sessions

[43:13] and order

[43:16] canvassers and whatever it is that we

[43:18] have meetings those meetings earlier and

[43:20] they they go past 4:00 and then we have

[43:21] all those people outside that are that

[43:23] are irritated. They also have the option

[43:25] and of course we love to hear from our

[43:28] public but you know they can email us.

[43:30] We get our email they can email us at

[43:31] any point in time so they can email us.

[43:33] They can hop online and I think if we

[43:35] just have one that way that people have

[43:37] an expectation and maybe we do have a

[43:40] specific time and we say 5:00

[43:43] or 5:15

[43:45] or close.

[43:46] I mean as close to as we can but that

[43:48] way it's not they're not you know if we

[43:49] just say not before 5:00 then it could

[43:51] be at 8:00. You know, I think we need to

[43:53] have a specific start time.

[43:55] >> [laughter]

[43:55] >> And that's the nice thing having it at

[43:57] the beginning of the meeting cuz

[43:58] actually it's right on time. Not always

[44:01] but most of the time.

[44:02] >> I'd suggest a set time. It makes it

[44:04] easy. We never have anybody asking when it it's going to be at I think

[44:08] 5:30. I think with technology as easy it

[44:11] is as it is to participate in meetings

[44:14] I think that if somebody wanted to leave

[44:16] work if it was that important ask their

[44:17] employer for for an exception.

[44:20] >> And I want it relatively early in the

[44:21] meeting because a lot of times they're

[44:23] commenting on multiple points.

[44:25] So now and so I don't want to push it

[44:27] too late. So 4:45, 5:00, what do you

[44:30] guys think? And let's stick let's pick

[44:31] just one time slot.

[44:34] >> I've I've got a whole other idea in here

[44:36] just

[44:37] >> Okay.

[44:38] >> [laughter]

[44:38] >> We're running out of time.

[44:42] » If we want to say uh

[44:45] Of course it won't be an exact time, but

[44:46] like you said, you know, if we can

[44:48] educate the public that some counties

[44:50] don't even allow this,

[44:52] but have it right before action items.

[44:58] Because people usually are talked what

[45:00] are commenting on our action items.

[45:02] >> Yeah, but they kind of want a time as

[45:04] well.

[45:05] All

[45:06] right, so we're going to say 5:00.

[45:09] I'm just going to put 5:00 in here. We

[45:10] have to discuss it again as we vote on

[45:12] these then we will vote.

[45:13] >> So then maybe when we're doing the

[45:14] agenda we'll want to make any items we

[45:17] think public is going to have

[45:19] >> after that 5:00 time.

[45:21] >> [laughter]

[45:21] >> And we kind of do that anyways. We try

[45:23] to adjust our agenda that way.

[45:24] >> Or we what we've done it yeah.

[45:27] >> Okay, it's hard. All right, so that is

[45:33] So number four looks like a brand new

[45:35] item here and it says

[45:37] agenda and agenda summary deadline.

[45:40] Actually it's not new. We've had this a

[45:41] while, but request for inclusion on an

[45:43] agenda and support documentation must be

[45:45] received by 5:00 Tuesday before. That's

[45:48] actually been in place. It might not

[45:49] have been in our policies and

[45:51] procedures, but

[45:53] legal [clears throat] review at least

[45:55] two weeks for Stephen for the county

[45:57] attorney.

[46:01] So

[46:05] continuing on.

[46:07] >> One one quick note for Dana, under the

[46:09] commission meeting, we do need to keep

[46:10] the word action item somewhere in there.

[46:12] If we delete the word action item, we

[46:14] can't have action items. So, I it was

[46:17] connected to public hearing {dash}

[46:18] possible action items. So, we just need

[46:20] somewhere in the in the set action item.

[46:23] That's all I'm Quinn just wanted me to

[46:24] say that out loud. Dana will catch that

[46:26] and

[46:26] >> Action items, okay.

[46:27] >> Yep.

[46:29] >> Which I think she Cuz it's always on

[46:30] there, but needs to be in our possible

[46:31] action items.

[46:36] Okay.

[46:38] So, moving on to page No comments on 19.

[46:41] On 20, page 20.

[46:47] Um there's a comment about the consent

[46:49] agenda.

[46:50] Any item may be moved to the regular

[46:52] agenda from the consent agenda for

[46:53] additional commission consideration and

[46:55] someone said something like

[46:57] by any commissioner without a motion.

[47:02] » Where are we at?

[47:03] >> Um okay, I got it.

[47:04] >> Page consent agenda on page 20.

[47:11] I just think any Any item may be moved

[47:14] >> already, but I'm okay if somebody thinks

[47:17] that we need to put that in there.

[47:18] >> It doesn't have to have a motion.

[47:19] Somebody can just request for it to be

[47:21] moved.

[47:21] >> You just request the pull out of it.

[47:23] >> There's no motion. You don't have to

[47:24] say, "Oh no, you can't do it." cuz that

[47:25] wouldn't be okay.

[47:26] >> I'll change it.

[47:27] >> The commissioner may request

[47:29] Yeah, any item may be moved to the

[47:31] regular agenda from the consent agenda

[47:33] for additional commission consideration

[47:34] during the meeting.

[47:36] >> And I like how you currently been

[47:38] taking them and just move them down the

[47:40] line so we can get through the meeting

[47:41] and just tackle another one.

[47:45] >> This is above kind of

[47:47] what it says on unanimous consensus of

[47:49] members present, right? So, without that

[47:52] without unanimous consent consensus, it

[47:54] can't be unanimous.

[47:55] >> Yeah.

[47:56] >> I feel like that comment

[47:57] >> So, if one person wants to pull it off

[47:59] then you

[47:59] >> Exactly.

[48:01] >> Um

[48:08] » L1

[48:11] » L

[48:12] >> L1

[48:14] >> Ooh.

[48:16] On page 20 that we missed at council and

[48:18] got to go to commission.

[48:19] >> Well, we did it. Look how many people

[48:21] have read that.

[48:22] >> Missed that.

[48:23] >> Cuz you read what you think it says.

[48:25] >> What page did you say?

[48:27] >> Oh, it's just on 20. On 20 it was L

[48:30] number one. It needed a commission

[48:32] change.

[48:37] All right, we're really bad at number

[48:38] five on page 21. When a call for the

[48:40] vote is commenced, no member shall leave

[48:43] until the vote is called. So if that

[48:46] happens sometimes

[48:46] >> It took me a few years but Stephen

[48:48] >> Yeah.

[48:49] And but anyways, we don't need to

[48:50] discuss that. Just leave it out.

[48:51] >> Leave it out.

[48:53] >> I think we're 21.

[48:54] Everything on page 21 looks good?

[48:56] >> Mhm.

[48:57] >> Okay, moving to page 22.

[49:01] Postponing table. Postpone is the other

[49:04] than the BD. Table is later that week.

[49:07] >> And I on item L7, I don't know if you

[49:10] did that or whether any of you all

[49:12] wanted to put that language in.

[49:14] >> What page are you on?

[49:16] >> 21, item seven.

[49:17] >> Back to 21.

[49:21] Number seven, abstentions.

[49:24] >> I don't know. I just

[49:26] that there have been that there have

[49:28] been questions regarding kind of basis

[49:30] of doing abstentions.

[49:33] So there's just that language that

[49:34] explains it.

[49:35] >> Well, I that's been probably I brought

[49:37] that up. I think that people should vote

[49:39] unless they have a real reason not to.

[49:42] But like for example, the other day I

[49:43] had to abstain because it was a customer

[49:46] of mine and so I had to to abstain. But

[49:48] I feel like there's been a lot of

[49:49] abstentions that people just choose to

[49:51] not vote And I think we're elected to be

[49:54] the voters. That's why people the public

[49:56] elects us as the decision makers and

[49:58] people just abstain.

[50:00] But I don't know that we I don't I'm I'm

[50:02] I don't feel strong enough to put it on

[50:03] the

[50:04] >> Yeah, I think I think uh lots of people

[50:06] abstain because

[50:09] they they could argue either side of the

[50:12] issue. They I mean it's

[50:14] >> Okay.

[50:15] >> I'll think we're saying

[50:16] >> I'm saying I don't know that

[50:16] >> What I have with that is they argue

[50:18] their side of the position and then they

[50:20] abstain voting. True.

[50:21] >> So if someone's going to abstain they

[50:23] need to say that they need to abstain at the beginning of

[50:27] the conversation and not comment. Is

[50:30] that allowed?

[50:30] >> yeah, if you noted that abstentions

[50:32] should be raised at the beginning of the

[50:35] uh at the beginning of the topic or the

[50:36] discussion item of the action item.

[50:38] >> Well, that's a good idea.

[50:39] >> And then you could put it different

[50:40] categories and non-vote.

[50:43] In this one they they differentiate or

[50:45] they say an abstention is considered a

[50:47] non-vote cuz really if you're abstaining

[50:49] >> It's a non-vote.

[50:50] >> Well, yeah, but if you're just kind of

[50:52] separating those two.

[50:53] Non-vote versus an abstention.

[50:55] >> So they're different.

[50:56] >> Yeah.

[50:57] >> So So non-vote Yeah, I'm just not voting

[50:59] on this.

[50:59] >> Correct. As a as opposed to I'm

[51:01] abstaining from the debate and the

[51:02] discussion on this item because I have a

[51:04] conflict of interest.

[51:05] >> So a non-vote is just just you just

[51:07] don't want to vote.

[51:08] >> Correct.

[51:08] >> And so you get to be involved in the

[51:10] conversation and then you just don't

[51:12] vote.

[51:13] >> Yeah.

[51:13] >> We better have somebody put some verbage

[51:15] together.

[51:16] >> Okay.

[51:16] >> Yeah.

[51:17] >> Okay.

[51:18] >> Like when I abstain from the sheriff

[51:19] department of stuff because of my

[51:21] conflict.

[51:22] >> Correct. Sure.

[51:24] >> Don't partake in the discussion, too, is

[51:26] what we're saying.

[51:27] >> Well, correct. That's a that's a

[51:28] abstention. You cannot engage on that

[51:30] because it's restricted to you.

[51:31] >> Just say here. No problem.

[51:33] >> But people are always

[51:34] commenting and then they abstain.

[51:36] >> Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

[51:38] >> So then they And when I say no, they say

[51:40] yay, nay, and then

[51:42] So then they

[51:43] I'm not voting.

[51:43] >> Correct.

[51:44] >> Instead of abstaining

[51:45] >> That that makes sense.

[51:46] >> Abstaining has to be called before the

[51:48] conversation before the

[51:50] >> Like the debate

[51:50] >> Abstaining distinguishes the trade.

[51:52] >> All right. So, you're going to work on

[51:53] that.

[51:53] >> Okay. Yes.

[51:55] >> Perfect. Thank you.

[51:57] Okay. The finishing

[52:03] » I didn't have any comments

[52:06] on

[52:07] Oh, yes, I did.

[52:08] >> You have some comments buried somewhere.

[52:09] >> I think where I Next time I I got to see

[52:12] what that was.

[52:13] Page 24

[52:21] » And what was your comment?

[52:31] » I just I guess I just circled number

[52:33] four and five but you know they're

[52:34] really important.

[52:36] >> Those are and that's what we discussed

[52:37] earlier, Mike, when you were talking

[52:38] about that we so

[52:42] Um no member shall debate with the

[52:44] public or employees during the meetings

[52:45] and that's why we don't answer them back

[52:48] because it could turn into a debate.

[52:50] >> But I don't think

[52:51] >> Right? If they're here and they're

[52:52] frustrated.

[52:53] >> I don't think every member of the public

[52:54] knows that because I've got a question

[52:56] on that.

[52:57] >> Well, you know, I I there's been part of

[52:59] me that wants to read the decorum debate

[53:01] where every citizen is to be heard.

[53:03] >> Okay.

[53:04] >> It's not a bad idea.

[53:06] >> You know, just to read that every time

[53:08] we go into it and then they are

[53:10] aware of it.

[53:13] >> So, I used to read something that I

[53:15] can't remember. I had something written

[53:16] out about

[53:18] behavior for citizens to be heard at the

[53:20] meeting.

[53:21] >> Go ahead, Steven.

[53:21] >> On on Q

[53:24] decorum debate, item number six,

[53:25] limitation of debate. This would be a

[53:27] section where you guys could put in

[53:30] limitations on how many times one

[53:32] speaks, how the city does. I think they

[53:35] only do two times at the meeting.

[53:36] >> two times and then then you ask the

[53:39] question, does someone have a comment

[53:42] that hasn't already been

[53:44] presented? You know, like did you a new

[53:47] idea come up or did you forget to say

[53:49] something? But don't repeat what you

[53:51] just said.

[53:52] >> It's about my

[53:53] >> The city has a real It's written down

[53:55] very well at the city.

[53:56] >> Sure.

[53:56] >> Can I look at that?

[53:57] >> I think the flow with this the

[53:59] commission has debate is more kind of

[54:01] open, whereas you could put limitations

[54:04] and say everybody gets the opportunity

[54:05] to speak twice for 3 minutes. If you

[54:07] guys did that, that's 42 minutes

[54:10] on a particular That's the max on a

[54:11] particular topic. There are sometimes

[54:13] where it seems like people speak five or

[54:16] six times. On regular items, I think

[54:18] that's not a huge deal, but on more

[54:20] contentious items, it can seem to drag

[54:22] on.

[54:23] So just a thought there, that's

[54:25] something that that has been raised in

[54:26] the past about kind of limiting time.

[54:29] And that's how they do it up at the

[54:30] state, that's how they do it with

[54:31] Congress, you limit time and all those

[54:32] rules.

[54:33] >> And do you have something new to add?

[54:35] >> Correct. So just I don't know if that's

[54:37] of interest. I'm just noting it.

[54:39] >> We said two.

[54:40] >> And then let's also add in the fact that a lot of times we will debate

[54:44] before there's a motion. So there'll be

[54:46] a presentation and then we'll have the

[54:48] debate and then we have a motion. And

[54:49] then we debate it again. And then we

[54:51] have two more debates. So not only do

[54:52] you have 42 minutes, you have another 20

[54:54] minutes added in on top of that. So I

[54:56] mean I think that if we're going to have

[54:57] that, maybe even including, you know,

[54:59] that the chair will call for a motion

[55:01] after the presentation of an item. So

[55:04] that we don't have debate happening

[55:07] prior to prior to a motion.

[55:09] >> After questions are asked.

[55:10] >> Yeah.

[55:11] >> I think that's important cuz sometimes I

[55:12] don't want to make a motion till I have

[55:14] some questions answered.

[55:16] >> That's true.

[55:17] >> You know you don't.

[55:19] Well, let me make a note note about

[55:21] motions and then if we can put them in

[55:24] there somewhere. Do we want to change

[55:26] that limit of debate? So right now it

[55:28] says in general no member of the

[55:29] commission shall be allowed to speak

[55:30] more than once upon

[55:32] any one subject until all members have

[55:34] had the opportunity to speak. And I

[55:35] tried it I tried to hold to that.

[55:38] Um not everybody always wants to speak,

[55:40] but and then commission members shall

[55:42] generally be limited to two statements

[55:44] on any issue under consideration unless

[55:47] substitute motions are made. I would

[55:48] love to keep it to two.

[55:50] >> I mean I think asking I think I like how

[55:52] the city does

[55:54] after everybody's had an opportunity to

[55:56] speak twice, you say does anyone have

[55:58] something to bring up or to mention that

[56:01] hasn't already been

[56:04] >> [clears throat]

[56:04] >> stated.

[56:05] You know, cuz sometimes you go when you

[56:07] somebody has say something and it was

[56:09] first you go, oh yeah, I remember.

[56:14] >> Well, and then this this is not this is

[56:15] an addition. It says the commission may

[56:16] motion and vote to extend or limit

[56:18] debate or discussion on a topic as

[56:20] necessary. I feel like that's the

[56:22] chair's discussion. Should we just leave

[56:24] that out?

[56:24] >> Chair's discretion.

[56:25] >> Instead of saying, oh, and I want to

[56:27] make a motion to argue this some more,

[56:29] you know, and just let it be up to the

[56:31] chair's commission or discretion to

[56:34] allow more, but we should really try to

[56:36] focus on just speaking twice.

[56:39] Unless we have a new motion and then we

[56:41] of course we'd have different ideas to bring up with the

[56:44] substitute motion.

[56:46] >> That's that that is written in a I don't

[56:48] have an opinion one way or the other.

[56:50] I'm just noting that's written to

[56:52] override the chair.

[56:54] That's what the intent is.

[56:55] >> Oh, but just right there and they make a

[56:56] motion to extend to override the chair.

[56:58] >> Correct. So, it's if the chair is like,

[57:00] ah, that's enough on this topic, then

[57:01] it's the body saying, hang on chair, we

[57:03] want to talk about this more.

[57:05] >> I think this is just cross out.

[57:07] >> [laughter]

[57:11] » Should we take a 3-minute break before

[57:13] we start?

[57:14] >> Um yeah, we can take Let's finish Okay,

[57:16] go all the way down by this. All right.

[57:19] So, we're going to have to pick up on

[57:20] page 24.

[57:22] I just I just

[57:24] I don't even know we have that.

[57:25] We only have

[57:28] I don't see any more comments. Does

[57:29] anybody have any more comments?

[57:30] >> I I looked down the list and I don't

[57:31] think that was mine and I think I think

[57:32] that was my last comment was the ones

[57:35] that I

[57:36] >> I'm fine with it.

[57:37] >> That's all I thought.

[57:39] >> I didn't think there was any more.

[57:42] Get on to the next agenda.

[57:43] >> Okay.

[57:45] We are going to take a 3-minute break or

[57:47] so.

[1:01:24] » Mhm.

[1:03:17] » I'd like to call order this Grand County

[1:03:20] Commission meeting on June 16th at 4:03.

[1:03:24] We have an attendance Commissioner

[1:03:25] Martinez, Commissioner McGann,

[1:03:27] Commissioner McCreery, Commissioner

[1:03:28] Winfield, and myself Commissioner

[1:03:29] McAdams, as well as our County Attorney

[1:03:32] Steven Stocks, our Commission

[1:03:34] Administrator Mark Tiner, Associate

[1:03:35] Commission Administrator Quinn Hall.

[1:03:38] And I think our Clerk Auditor

[1:03:43] And we will go ahead and have the Pledge

[1:03:46] of Allegiance. Could you stand with me?

[1:03:49] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[1:03:52] United States of America, and to the

[1:03:55] [clears throat] Republic for which it

[1:03:56] stands, one nation under God, and

[1:03:59] indivisible, with liberty and justice

[1:04:02] for all.

[1:04:05] » Okay.

[1:04:06] And before we get started with citizens

[1:04:08] to be heard, um

[1:04:09] Commissioner Winfield wanted to say

[1:04:11] something.

[1:04:12] >> Yeah, I'd like to just do a real quick

[1:04:14] tribute

[1:04:15] for um Andy Lewis that was um

[1:04:19] we lost him in an accident

[1:04:21] recently, and I just had a few things

[1:04:23] that I wanted to

[1:04:25] comment about Andy.

[1:04:27] And that is Moab lost a remarkable and

[1:04:30] adventurous spirit with the passing of

[1:04:32] Andy Lewis. Andy lived life with amazing

[1:04:35] passion, courage, and creativity,

[1:04:38] inspiring many of us through his

[1:04:40] accomplishments.

[1:04:42] His love of the outdoors, and his

[1:04:45] willingness to push boundaries embodies

[1:04:47] Andy's embodied Andy's adventure.

[1:05:00] Rest in peace and remembered always by

[1:05:02] family, friends, and the Moab community.

[1:05:05] Rest in peace, Andy.

[1:05:09] » Thank you, Bill.

[1:05:10] >> Yeah, I he was close to a lot of in a

[1:05:12] lot of different ways. Um

[1:05:14] I got to know Andy I don't know five or

[1:05:16] six years ago and

[1:05:18] although our paths didn't always cross

[1:05:21] he had an amazing talent. I

[1:05:25] one of the regrets I have is that I

[1:05:26] didn't get to see him in the sky in

[1:05:27] Castle Valley when he was

[1:05:30] going across that slack line up there. I

[1:05:32] wouldn't love nothing better than to see

[1:05:34] somebody doing that but Andy

[1:05:37] he will be missed by many of us. So

[1:05:41] >> So thank you.

[1:05:45] » All right,

[1:05:47] would anyone in the audience like to

[1:05:48] come up and speak?

[1:05:51] >> Corey

[1:05:52] >> Say your name.

[1:05:54] >> Corey Boyd

[1:05:56] How are you guys today?

[1:05:57] >> Good.

[1:05:58] >> I guess this is where I'm supposed to

[1:06:00] sit.

[1:06:00] >> Yeah, you can sit there or you can stand

[1:06:02] whichever you're more comfortable.

[1:06:04] The microphone works a little bit better

[1:06:05] on the podium.

[1:06:06] >> I think my

[1:06:07] voice is probably loud enough anyways,

[1:06:09] right? Can you all hear me?

[1:06:12] Well, I'm here today to talk about

[1:06:15] irrigation waters most of you know I'm a

[1:06:17] I'm an irrigation contractor landscape

[1:06:19] contractor.

[1:06:20] Uh

[1:06:22] We mow 80 accounts a week we maintain

[1:06:23] 300 irrigations me and my wife alone.

[1:06:26] In this town unfortunately this year has

[1:06:28] been stressful because we've had a lot

[1:06:30] of

[1:06:31] I would say elderly customers that have

[1:06:32] called and worried about watering their

[1:06:34] grass or taking care of their trees.

[1:06:37] Um crying cuz they're reading a lot of

[1:06:40] the articles and they think they've got

[1:06:42] to cut all their water back and they're

[1:06:44] calling me at night texting me emailing

[1:06:47] me believe it or not they

[1:06:50] how many 80 year olds can actually email

[1:06:51] and text with their phones it's pretty

[1:06:53] crazy um

[1:06:54] and how late at night they're awake.

[1:06:57] So

[1:06:59] My my concern is and like I told them

[1:07:02] and I talked to the county water and and

[1:07:05] I like I said I was born and raised

[1:07:06] here. My dad was born and raised here.

[1:07:08] My grandparents

[1:07:10] were some of the first settlers, our

[1:07:11] great grandparents.

[1:07:14] Our water Like I tell them, there's a

[1:07:16] difference between surface water and

[1:07:17] ground water in Moab, for sure.

[1:07:20] Surface water, yes, we struggle with

[1:07:22] this year. Ground water,

[1:07:23] we got we've got a lot of ground water.

[1:07:25] And I I'm not going to say plenty

[1:07:27] because, you know, we've got to be

[1:07:28] conservative. And as a landscaper, we

[1:07:30] are

[1:07:31] all of our accounts 100% of them are

[1:07:33] mulched. Um which counts, which people

[1:07:35] don't realize a lot of that is mostly

[1:07:37] water and and that actually goes back

[1:07:39] into the soil.

[1:07:40] Um

[1:07:41] You know, some people are against lawns.

[1:07:43] There's some there's some people that

[1:07:45] are higher up in Moab that say, "Yeah,

[1:07:46] we're worried because we water late late

[1:07:48] at night or early in the morning so we

[1:07:50] don't have to hear people complain." And

[1:07:52] I said, "Well, that's the way it should

[1:07:54] be watered anyways."

[1:07:56] You know,

[1:07:57] a lot of them The state's got a lot of

[1:07:58] stuff wrong and and I hate to call

[1:08:00] [clears throat] them out, but but they they preach about watering deep and

[1:08:04] watering and I stopped it. Well, the

[1:08:06] problem with that is as Moab, for

[1:08:08] instance, where I live is all sand.

[1:08:11] If I water three times a week, it's a

[1:08:12] waste.

[1:08:14] It really is. If I try to water deep,

[1:08:16] the grass the grass goes dormant. It may

[1:08:18] not be look it may not be dead, but it

[1:08:20] goes dormant. So, if you water

[1:08:23] frequently less, the roots look the

[1:08:26] roots on Kentucky bluegrass

[1:08:27] they go 3 to 6 in at the most. Um and

[1:08:31] it's about surface temperature. Now, for

[1:08:33] instance, over by the high school, they

[1:08:35] can get them all them homes there can

[1:08:37] water three days a week. We put

[1:08:38] irrigation systems in several of them

[1:08:40] over there. They've got a good clay soil

[1:08:42] mixture. But there's also another

[1:08:44] problem. People read that and they and

[1:08:47] they hear that and they water. How many

[1:08:49] hills are in Moab? So, you water and

[1:08:53] you're on a hillside, it does no good to

[1:08:55] water for an hour

[1:08:56] twice a week because 90% of that water

[1:08:59] is running off of that Running the

[1:09:01] sidewalk or the gutter.

[1:09:03] So,

[1:09:04] it doesn't all one one thing does not

[1:09:06] fit all. One size does not fit all on

[1:09:08] this. So,

[1:09:09] what I like to We we conserve water. I

[1:09:12] mean, all my clients know that I will

[1:09:14] adjust their water seasonally. Some of

[1:09:16] them don't have us do it, but the

[1:09:17] majority of them have us do it. We

[1:09:19] adjust the seasons.

[1:09:21] We watch them when they're every week.

[1:09:23] And I like I tell them, I said, "When

[1:09:24] it's 105°, the lawn's got to have

[1:09:26] water."

[1:09:27] Fortunately, we're not a high desert.

[1:09:28] We're not a desert like St. George or

[1:09:31] Las Vegas or even Phoenix. People get

[1:09:33] all upset about lawns and and and even

[1:09:36] trees or plants in Moab when

[1:09:38] you know, the three main months, June,

[1:09:40] July, and August, yes, we absolutely use

[1:09:42] a lot of water.

[1:09:44] But there are the other three months,

[1:09:45] you know, we're watering two or three

[1:09:46] days a week.

[1:09:47] And then there's six months that we

[1:09:49] should be

[1:09:51] preserving or keeping water, storing

[1:09:52] water. And I think that's the biggest problem we have in Moab.

[1:09:57] My dad worked on Ken's Lake when they

[1:09:59] built it. They knew it wasn't big enough

[1:10:00] then

[1:10:01] to supply this valley with water.

[1:10:04] We we don't have a water problem. We

[1:10:05] have a shortage problem. We we need to

[1:10:07] store water. And Ken's Lake it needs to

[1:10:09] be three times the size or we should

[1:10:10] look at actually damming it and make it

[1:10:12] bigger than they originally thought.

[1:10:14] Um

[1:10:15] we could we could actually fix most of

[1:10:17] the flooding in Moab if we could control

[1:10:20] that canyon that comes in here. If we

[1:10:21] could control that water, we could store

[1:10:23] it. And when we have years like this

[1:10:25] where we don't have as much runoff, we

[1:10:27] have storage of water. As we know, Ken's

[1:10:29] Lake's at 30 or 40% right now. And and

[1:10:33] we don't have that many clients. I mean,

[1:10:35] we probably have out of our 80, there's

[1:10:37] probably 10 or 15 that are on Ken's Lake

[1:10:39] water. And and that's a problem.

[1:10:42] And I'm not against watering with city

[1:10:43] or county water, but the fact of the

[1:10:45] matter is we should be looking at

[1:10:46] infrastructure for watering landscape. Why are we Why

[1:10:51] are we not looking at making Ken's Lake

[1:10:53] bigger or damming and creating

[1:10:55] a secondary system for that instead of

[1:10:58] using treated water in a plant that's

[1:11:00] treated that doesn't really need it. And

[1:11:02] another thing is the lawns that are

[1:11:04] watered with with

[1:11:05] Ken's Lake or or wells do much better

[1:11:08] than they do with the lawns that are

[1:11:09] watered with with city water

[1:11:11] or county water. They just they they

[1:11:13] just do.

[1:11:16] A lot of lawns that are watered well

[1:11:17] water out of They don't need any

[1:11:18] fertilizer [clears throat] once a year,

[1:11:20] you know, where some need to be four

[1:11:22] times a year. And a lot of it's soil or

[1:11:24] water, but the city water's treated.

[1:11:26] That's that's a fact, you know, there's

[1:11:27] a lot of nutrients in rainwater. I mean

[1:11:30] lawns you guys will know it. Lawns can

[1:11:32] be struggling and then it rains and the

[1:11:34] lawns and lawns just boom, they're

[1:11:36] green. And that usually makes us go, oh

[1:11:37] no, we're going to be this is going to

[1:11:39] be a hard week or when it's rained a

[1:11:41] lot. So

[1:11:46] » We appreciate it.

[1:11:47] >> Yeah.

[1:11:47] >> And I think that that's great

[1:11:49] information. Thank you.

[1:11:50] >> Thank you.

[1:11:52] >> All right, do we have anyone else in the

[1:11:53] audience that would like to come speak?

[1:12:03] » Kevin Clyde

[1:12:05] I live out on Easy Street. I

[1:12:06] [clears throat] serve on the Grand

[1:12:08] County Water Conservancy District Board.

[1:12:11] Thank you, Corey, for your

[1:12:12] >> [laughter]

[1:12:13] >> kind words.

[1:12:14] Uh I

[1:12:15] want to thank you as our commission.

[1:12:19] I know that this is a very difficult job

[1:12:22] that you have.

[1:12:23] I hear opinions from all sides coming at

[1:12:27] you.

[1:12:28] And you are our elected representatives,

[1:12:30] and I believe that you all do your very

[1:12:32] best to represent us,

[1:12:35] to think through these issues, and uh to

[1:12:38] make our county work.

[1:12:41] The county is a very complex place.

[1:12:44] If you just think about water,

[1:12:46] I can think of 10 or 15 projects that

[1:12:48] you have to learn about and approve

[1:12:52] or disapprove in order to make that

[1:12:54] work.

[1:12:55] There are just so many things that you

[1:12:57] have to juggle to do that.

[1:12:59] I recognize that you all have jobs or

[1:13:02] you have personal lives

[1:13:04] and

[1:13:05] this

[1:13:06] commission is not meant to be

[1:13:08] a full-time job, but I think it is.

[1:13:10] And then you all have full-time jobs

[1:13:12] besides that.

[1:13:13] And I take my hat off to you.

[1:13:15] I know that you take a lot of flak.

[1:13:19] And I'm uh glad to say that I support

[1:13:23] you even though

[1:13:25] there are many different opinions on

[1:13:26] this commission.

[1:13:28] Thank you.

[1:13:29] >> Thank you. Thank you.

[1:13:33] Do we have anyone else in the audience

[1:13:34] who would like to come speak?

[1:13:38] What about online?

[1:13:39] >> We have those responding online.

[1:13:41] >> No one's there. Okay.

[1:13:43] All right. Any

[1:13:44] We're going to go ahead and move along.

[1:13:46] So, our first

[1:13:48] order of business today is the public

[1:13:50] hearing. So, we have

[1:13:52] Andrew Jackson

[1:13:54] come up and

[1:13:56] open up this public hearing for the Sims

[1:13:59] rezone.

[1:14:00] This hearing will be open to receive

[1:14:02] written comments until 5:00 p.m. on

[1:14:05] Wednesday, June 24th. We will also take

[1:14:07] public comments tonight as well if

[1:14:09] there's anyone for that.

[1:14:12] >> And I don't know if

[1:14:13] we'll do that at 6:00 or

[1:14:15] if you guys can just but I'm happy to

[1:14:17] talk about it right now.

[1:14:18] >> That said, we can So, one thing that we

[1:14:20] have to do after 6:00 is the Anything

[1:14:24] that has to do with our budget we have

[1:14:26] to have after 6:00 and so as long as we

[1:14:28] post it that if we can do it at 4:00 and

[1:14:30] I I believe it's been posted that way.

[1:14:31] So, we are good for 6:00 or 4:00.

[1:14:34] >> Perfect.

[1:14:35] Uh this proposal would change the zoning

[1:14:37] of the 180 property along Highway 191

[1:14:41] from a mix of highway commercial general

[1:14:43] business to entirely highway commercial.

[1:14:46] The change eliminates split zoning on

[1:14:48] the parcel, creates consistent

[1:14:50] development standards, and aligns with

[1:14:52] the county's

[1:14:54] general plan and surrounding highway

[1:14:56] oriented commercial uses. Staff

[1:14:59] recommends approval. Obviously, this is

[1:15:01] just opening up of the

[1:15:03] public comment period. Planning

[1:15:05] Commission did

[1:15:06] recommend approval of this.

[1:15:12] » Okay.

[1:15:13] Do we have anyone in the audience that's

[1:15:14] here to speak on this particular item?

[1:15:19] You're having me.

[1:15:20] So, we'll ask our questions next.

[1:15:23] meeting, we'll be voting on this on

[1:15:24] our next meeting.

[1:15:27] All right. So, we'll move along to

[1:15:29] >> This one will remain open, right?

[1:15:30] >> I did I read that first.

[1:15:32] >> That's right.

[1:15:32] >> Yeah.

[1:15:34] Public comment till Wednesday, June 24th

[1:15:37] at 5:00 p.m.

[1:15:40] Next, we have a department report by our

[1:15:44] Personnel Services Department. Tess

[1:15:46] Barger, would you like to come in?

[1:15:56] So quiet in here today.

[1:15:58] >> I know.

[1:15:58] >> [laughter]

[1:16:00] >> Something's wrong. I can almost hear

[1:16:01] myself think.

[1:16:03] Um

[1:16:04] All right, wonderful. Well, I I have a

[1:16:07] very um

[1:16:09] concise presentation because I did want

[1:16:11] to be conscientious of of the time. So,

[1:16:15] what what I would love to do is

[1:16:17] essentially go through the information

[1:16:20] that I felt would probably hopefully be

[1:16:21] most most interesting

[1:16:23] to the commission to hear in regards to

[1:16:25] updates to the Personnel Services

[1:16:26] Department. And then, of course, any

[1:16:28] questions that you all have along the

[1:16:30] way, please feel free to ask.

[1:16:32] And then, of course, more than happy to

[1:16:34] answer any questions that you have at

[1:16:36] the at the end if that sounds like a a

[1:16:38] plan.

[1:16:40] So, first to start off at a glance, um

[1:16:44] at Green County, we currently have 225

[1:16:47] folks on payroll with us. This includes

[1:16:50] full-time, part-time, on-call, and

[1:16:53] elected officials. We also do payroll

[1:16:56] processing for the road, uh mosquito

[1:16:59] district, as well as the sanitary

[1:17:00] district.

[1:17:02] And um

[1:17:04] currently, we have eight posted

[1:17:08] vacancies

[1:17:10] and 14 unposted vacancies. So, these

[1:17:13] unposted vacancies are those positions

[1:17:16] that would fall into the hiring freeze

[1:17:19] category.

[1:17:20] Um two of those positions have been

[1:17:22] requested and approved, but are not

[1:17:24] currently in the backfilled just due to

[1:17:26] capacity of the department, and that's

[1:17:28] the library department. And those hours

[1:17:30] are covered by other part-time staff. Um

[1:17:33] but, the remainder of those um unposted

[1:17:36] vacancies are positions that the

[1:17:39] department heads have not yet come

[1:17:41] before the commission with to request.

[1:17:44] And that kind of perfectly segues into

[1:17:47] the the year-to-date updates that I

[1:17:49] wanted to provide. So, in regards to

[1:17:50] that hiring freeze, um again, I I really

[1:17:53] want to to give um credit and

[1:17:56] appreciation to the department heads of

[1:17:59] the frozen positions um that have not

[1:18:02] been brought forth. They've been worked

[1:18:05] really hard um to figure out other means

[1:18:08] of covering those responsibilities

[1:18:11] and needs in order to to not need to um

[1:18:15] up up to this point come before you all

[1:18:17] requesting those.

[1:18:19] And so, specifically, um there are a

[1:18:21] number of fuels reduction both of

[1:18:23] full-time and seasonal positions within

[1:18:25] weeds, our IT support technician

[1:18:27] position, again the two library clerk

[1:18:29] positions I mentioned, the assistant

[1:18:31] road supervisor, as well as a a laborer

[1:18:34] operator position within the road

[1:18:36] department,

[1:18:37] one ARFF technician,

[1:18:39] um airside technician position at the

[1:18:41] airport, a part-time jail nurse

[1:18:44] position, uh Moab Office of Tourism

[1:18:46] Assistant Director position, so Nick

[1:18:49] Soletta, our current director's former

[1:18:51] position,

[1:18:52] >> [cough]

[1:18:52] >> part-time engineering technician, as

[1:18:55] well as associate planner positions

[1:18:57] within the planning and zoning

[1:18:58] department.

[1:19:02] I also wanted to to check in about our

[1:19:04] reduced hours pilot, as we talked about

[1:19:06] our year-to-date um updates.

[1:19:09] So, as of May 1st, we had saved

[1:19:11] approximately $20,000 of the general

[1:19:13] fund specifically related to uh reduced

[1:19:16] hours pilot. So, again, this was the

[1:19:18] pilot that the commission agreed for us

[1:19:21] to try this year of allowing the staff

[1:19:23] to work lower than 40 hours per week or

[1:19:27] 80 hours per pay period. Um

[1:19:30] We have approximately 10 staff that have

[1:19:32] opted in to this, and I've not yet

[1:19:35] surveyed staff interest in continuing

[1:19:38] this into 2027.

[1:19:40] Um I know that I can speak for my

[1:19:41] department that we do plan to uh request

[1:19:44] and and put our salary and benefits

[1:19:46] budget together requesting that we do go

[1:19:48] back up to 2080 hours of full-time

[1:19:51] 40-hour a week hours in 2027.

[1:19:54] Um but closer to next year, I'll I'll go

[1:19:58] ahead and survey staff and see whether

[1:20:00] or not this is as well as department

[1:20:01] heads and see whether or not this is

[1:20:03] something that they feel um

[1:20:05] doesn't cause any negative impacts or

[1:20:08] maybe even has some positive impacts for staff who have maybe some better

[1:20:12] flexibility

[1:20:13] um in their schedules because they

[1:20:14] aren't required to get to that 40 hours.

[1:20:17] Um

[1:20:19] Additionally, in year-to-date updates,

[1:20:22] so our employee handbook revision phase

[1:20:24] one was completed um officially in May,

[1:20:28] so we were finally able to wrap that up.

[1:20:30] Phase one of the employee handbook

[1:20:32] update, and as a reminder

[1:20:34] our handbook had not been updated since

[1:20:36] 2014. Um, we had had resolutions adopted

[1:20:40] since then, of course, but again not not

[1:20:42] comprehensively updated our employee

[1:20:45] handbook. So, phase one of that revision

[1:20:47] included consolidating all of those

[1:20:50] resolutions, updating terminology, and

[1:20:53] including any um new state code that had

[1:20:57] changed or were in addition.

[1:21:02] Do you have any any questions so far?

[1:21:06] Okay, wonderful.

[1:21:08] Um, so as we look forward and I think

[1:21:10] that this is a first really important

[1:21:12] part of any department update.

[1:21:14] Um, so the topics that I wanted to to

[1:21:17] briefly discuss in that forward look

[1:21:20] that are conversations happening within

[1:21:22] my department as well as agency-wide

[1:21:24] that people come to my department with

[1:21:27] include reconsideration of the midyear

[1:21:30] or of of the cost of living proposal.

[1:21:32] So, um

[1:21:34] during

[1:21:35] >> [clears throat]

[1:21:35] >> the end of budget season last year,

[1:21:38] um it was discussed that there would be

[1:21:40] an an attempt to reconsider a cost of

[1:21:43] living adjustment for staff at the

[1:21:45] midyear point. Um, so my department is

[1:21:49] um has the information together and and

[1:21:52] at any point whenever the commission is

[1:21:54] um

[1:21:55] able to consider that proposal, we

[1:21:57] happily are are able to present that

[1:22:00] information to you all. So, that is

[1:22:02] still with the 2026 Social Security

[1:22:04] Administration's 2.8% COLA.

[1:22:07] And the

[1:22:09] just to let you all know um

[1:22:11] in advance in terms of how this year is

[1:22:13] trending, currently while the Social

[1:22:15] Security Administration doesn't actually

[1:22:17] come out formally with their announced

[1:22:19] COLA until approximately October every

[1:22:21] year, they are tracking that it will be between 3.8 to 4.7%

[1:22:27] this year. And so that um is directly

[1:22:30] based off of

[1:22:33] consumer reports and and labor reports

[1:22:36] at the federal level. And essentially it mirrors what what type of inflation

[1:22:41] impacts.

[1:22:42] >> Who said 3.8 to 4.

[1:22:43] >> 3.8 to 4.7 for 2027. And again, it it

[1:22:47] fluctuates. I've checked on it a few

[1:22:49] times in in the last month and it

[1:22:51] they've they've kept within that track.

[1:22:55] It could have, however, you know,

[1:22:56] certainly change before October.

[1:23:00] » [clears throat]

[1:23:00] >> Stephen has a comment question.

[1:23:02] >> good question. Would it be possible to

[1:23:04] know at a later date, not necessarily

[1:23:06] now,

[1:23:07] what the total would be

[1:23:09] to pay for this whole year for the Cola

[1:23:10] amount or for like going forward? I

[1:23:12] don't know what those two amounts maybe that's that

[1:23:15] information at a future date would be

[1:23:16] helpful information to know what.

[1:23:18] >> So providing

[1:23:19] >> Are you guys doing

[1:23:20] >> on a future addendum? Yes. Yes. And and

[1:23:23] I'm not sure I apologize if I missed

[1:23:26] part of your question whether you were

[1:23:28] curious about what the projections would

[1:23:30] look like for a retroactive cost of

[1:23:32] living adjustment. That's specifically

[1:23:34] what you were

[1:23:34] >> Both. Just just to know, I mean, for the price tag. Right.

[1:23:39] >> The different scenarios would be

[1:23:39] available. Yes. Yes, absolutely.

[1:23:42] >> I think we'll have that discussion next

[1:23:44] month at one of the meetings next month.

[1:23:48] You'll have the information then.

[1:23:49] >> Great. Thank you.

[1:23:52] Additionally, uh another intent that was

[1:23:55] shared during budget season was

[1:23:57] reconsideration of position

[1:23:58] reclassification proposals that were not

[1:24:01] approved during budget season. And so

[1:24:04] just to to provide an update on that, we

[1:24:06] do still have that information. There

[1:24:08] are also some department heads that have

[1:24:11] identified other needs for

[1:24:13] reclassifications within their

[1:24:15] departments. And so

[1:24:17] provided me that information. Again,

[1:24:19] that's information that that I can have

[1:24:21] prepared and ready to present to the

[1:24:22] commission at whatever point you're able

[1:24:24] to

[1:24:26] you know to review it and also if if

[1:24:29] that is not a possibility prior to

[1:24:31] budget season in preparation for 27 then

[1:24:35] we luckily have been able to do our

[1:24:36] homework a little in advance and we will

[1:24:39] be ready for 2027 budget conversations

[1:24:42] in that regard.

[1:24:45] Next is my department is looking at

[1:24:47] doing an employee benefits analysis and

[1:24:49] so specifically how we are planning to

[1:24:52] conduct this is we've drafted a survey

[1:24:56] that is almost ready for distribution

[1:24:58] amongst our staff and in the survey we

[1:25:00] will be collecting feedback from staff

[1:25:02] about their satisfaction with our

[1:25:03] current benefits

[1:25:04] if rates go up so our renewal rate as

[1:25:07] you all as you all know last year

[1:25:09] we did receive an increase from Cigna

[1:25:12] and there were a lot of considerations

[1:25:14] of what do we do do we change the plans

[1:25:16] do we change do we change who we are or

[1:25:19] we're getting our health insurance

[1:25:21] through

[1:25:22] and so we are going to be

[1:25:25] receiving some of that feedback from the

[1:25:26] staff on if we receive another renewal

[1:25:28] and we need to look at making some

[1:25:30] changes what changes feel most

[1:25:32] accessible to you is it that we increase

[1:25:35] insurance premiums is it that we

[1:25:36] increase deductibles and out of pocket

[1:25:38] maximums is it that we look at can we go

[1:25:40] out to bid and we look at some

[1:25:43] you know some other options aside from

[1:25:45] Cigna we'll also be surveying um

[1:25:49] staff openness and and potential

[1:25:51] utilization of things like if we offer

[1:25:54] an incentive to opt out of our benefits

[1:25:57] and if we open up insurance to domestic

[1:26:00] partners and their dependents who would

[1:26:02] be opting into that so just to try to

[1:26:05] get an an assessment of of what those

[1:26:07] impacts would look like if we if we did

[1:26:09] adopt any of those changes.

[1:26:13] Um two other one other thing that uh do

[1:26:17] plan on executing and then one other one

[1:26:19] other item I'll I'll kind of give to you

[1:26:21] as a as something to to consider. Um one

[1:26:24] additional item that we are working on

[1:26:26] is outlining our plan for phase two of

[1:26:28] the employee handbook. So again, our

[1:26:30] phase one was essentially just getting

[1:26:31] it caught up-to-date.

[1:26:33] Phase two, however, is when um we are

[1:26:36] looking at getting staff feedback and

[1:26:38] making bigger changes and modifications

[1:26:40] to the handbook.

[1:26:42] While I don't have the start to finish

[1:26:45] outlined, I have idea of how I would

[1:26:47] like us to do that including

[1:26:49] um

[1:26:50] forming a committee, going through the

[1:26:53] handbook section by section, and then

[1:26:54] per section receiving staff feedback so

[1:26:56] that they can provide

[1:26:58] um more specific feedback related to

[1:27:00] whatever the policies are that we're

[1:27:01] evaluating during that time period. Our

[1:27:03] employee handbook is 100 pages long. It

[1:27:06] will be a long process, but we want to

[1:27:08] do it thoroughly as well as put um

[1:27:12] expectations in place for how frequently

[1:27:15] we do a very comprehensive review of it.

[1:27:17] should be

[1:27:19] um reviewed at least annually by my

[1:27:21] department, and the recommendation is

[1:27:23] bi-annually through legal review. So

[1:27:25] those are So those are some um more

[1:27:28] straightforward reviews, of course, but

[1:27:30] again, when we look at it through more

[1:27:31] of that comprehensive lens,

[1:27:33] um I'd like to do a little bit more

[1:27:34] research and come up with a better

[1:27:36] recommendation for how often we should

[1:27:37] be doing a big overhaul like this.

[1:27:40] Um the last item that I will give you

[1:27:43] all as as something to to take away from

[1:27:45] this is um

[1:27:47] the potential for uh needing to do a

[1:27:50] compensation survey for Grand County.

[1:27:53] The last time that we did a

[1:27:54] comprehensive compensation survey where

[1:27:56] we looked at our pay plan as well as all

[1:27:58] the compensation ranges for positions

[1:28:00] was in 2021, and

[1:28:03] um those changes were adopted going into

[1:28:06] 2022.

[1:28:07] Um so we have have not completed that

[1:28:10] for 5 years.

[1:28:12] Um this comes up more and more often and

[1:28:13] I think it will continue to. I think

[1:28:15] that we see it through um,

[1:28:20] struggles such as being able to backfill

[1:28:22] some of our higher level positions um,

[1:28:25] and a lot of feedback that we've

[1:28:26] received from the

[1:28:28] both candidates as well as both the

[1:28:30] search firms that we've worked with is

[1:28:32] that our pay ranges were not um,

[1:28:36] competitive in the way that they needed

[1:28:38] to be to get the type of, you know, to

[1:28:40] bring in as many applicants as as we

[1:28:43] hoped to.

[1:28:44] Um, so whether that compensation survey

[1:28:46] validates that we're doing a a great job

[1:28:49] in in certain aspects or in certain

[1:28:50] departments in in paying competitive

[1:28:52] wages or if it shows us gaps that we

[1:28:54] need to

[1:28:55] um,

[1:28:57] strategize to fill so that we can

[1:28:59] continue retaining and recruiting new

[1:29:01] talent. Um, I think that that would be a very worthwhile endeavor for us to do

[1:29:07] and at any point when we feel like we

[1:29:10] can consider

[1:29:11] um, embarking on a a project such as

[1:29:13] that then we can have more conversations

[1:29:15] about whether or not we should complete

[1:29:16] that internally or externally. There are

[1:29:18] pros and cons to both, whether it be

[1:29:20] hiring a consulting firm to help

[1:29:23] complete that survey or whether or not

[1:29:25] we were to do it in-house like we did in

[1:29:27] 2021.

[1:29:32] That's the information that I have for

[1:29:33] you all today.

[1:29:35] >> Okay.

[1:29:36] Uh, one of the things is is when you're

[1:29:38] looking at that stepping grade right

[1:29:39] there, um, would it be a possibility to

[1:29:41] look at a

[1:29:42] stepping grade increase for employees

[1:29:45] who are no longer eligible for URS,

[1:29:47] especially looking at some of our higher

[1:29:49] level positions?

[1:29:51] >> Yeah, so um,

[1:29:53] specific to URS, that one is interesting

[1:29:56] because Utah Retirement Systems per

[1:29:58] state code has um,

[1:30:00] some some pretty specific restrictions

[1:30:03] on not offering cash in lieu of

[1:30:06] retirement benefits. So, if somebody is

[1:30:09] not eligible to receive a retirement

[1:30:10] bonus if we, say, have some other means

[1:30:15] specifically dedicated to employees who

[1:30:18] can't receive X, Y, and Z because of

[1:30:20] retirement, that may still put us

[1:30:23] I like to say that I like to keep us

[1:30:24] away from hot water and warm water

[1:30:27] um, in in terms of that. And so, um,

[1:30:31] we're working on getting more

[1:30:32] information from mutual retirement

[1:30:34] systems, but I don't have a I don't have

[1:30:37] a good converse or I don't have a

[1:30:39] thorough answer for you on that.

[1:30:41] And in regards to, um,

[1:30:44] higher-level employees, there there are

[1:30:45] some different ideas or thoughts that

[1:30:47] I've thrown out before, whether it be,

[1:30:49] um,

[1:30:50] that we do some type of sign-on and

[1:30:52] retention bonus, like

[1:30:55] 2 year if you stay with us for 2 years,

[1:30:58] you get, you know, this one-time bonus.

[1:31:02] Um,

[1:31:03] another topic that has come up a number

[1:31:05] of times before and and I anticipate

[1:31:07] will continue to is that our stepped-out

[1:31:09] employees, meaning our employees that

[1:31:11] have lots of experience and have been

[1:31:13] with and or have been with the county

[1:31:15] for a long time, are at a step 15,

[1:31:18] meaning that they no longer receive any,

[1:31:21] um, wage increases. They receive a cost

[1:31:23] of living adjustment, but that is

[1:31:25] something that has continued to be

[1:31:27] brought up to me as well.

[1:31:29] Um, and I have some information and

[1:31:31] different ideas of how to address that.

[1:31:34] Uh, what's really nice is that we don't

[1:31:35] have to reinvent the wheel for a lot of

[1:31:37] these things. There are a number of HR

[1:31:39] groups that speak very frequently,

[1:31:42] um,

[1:31:43] in the state and have been able to glean

[1:31:45] some really great information on what

[1:31:47] they're doing, and I think that it

[1:31:49] helps,

[1:31:50] uh, me to know

[1:31:52] where we sit in terms of are we are we

[1:31:54] sort of following following in line with

[1:31:56] what other employers are doing or

[1:31:58] there's some areas that we're really

[1:31:59] excelling at or some areas that we could

[1:32:01] look at maybe filling some gaps.

[1:32:03] >> I'd make have of you when we look at

[1:32:05] those mid-year amendments if you could

[1:32:07] maybe bring forward some of those ideas

[1:32:08] for the URS as well as for the

[1:32:10] stepped-out employers. I would think

[1:32:12] that would be helpful.

[1:32:14] Thanks.

[1:32:16] » Yeah, I I too would like to see

[1:32:18] something brought forward as soon as

[1:32:20] possible on that. I know we've got some

[1:32:22] employees that have been waiting

[1:32:25] considerable amount of time and if we

[1:32:26] need to do some digging or find out what

[1:32:28] we have to do there to compensate them

[1:32:30] fairly when they're not getting a

[1:32:32] retirement.

[1:32:33] I think it would be

[1:32:35] certainly helpful if we could move that

[1:32:37] forward a little bit.

[1:32:41] » [clears throat]

[1:32:45] » Anything else? Do you have anything

[1:32:46] else?

[1:32:47] >> No, I don't.

[1:32:49] >> You have a question?

[1:32:52] Thank you. All right, thank you all very

[1:32:53] much.

[1:32:54] >> Thanks.

[1:32:57] » Okay,

[1:32:58] so our next

[1:33:01] is number four at the

[1:33:03] Do we have any agency reports or general

[1:33:05] business action items?

[1:33:07] Number four is commission member

[1:33:08] disclosures and future considerations.

[1:33:11] Mike.

[1:33:12] >> As per usual, my wife works for the

[1:33:14] sheriff's department.

[1:33:15] >> All right, Bill.

[1:33:16] >> Yeah, I I've got a future consideration

[1:33:19] that I'd like to put on um

[1:33:22] a couple of us have been approached by

[1:33:24] the mine down in San Juan County about

[1:33:28] doing copper recycling out at Crescent

[1:33:31] Junction and so there is probably a need

[1:33:34] for

[1:33:35] a workshop

[1:33:38] to where we could and UAC has agreed to

[1:33:41] participate in that where they could

[1:33:43] come down. There's multiple options to

[1:33:46] put a development zone around

[1:33:49] Crescent Junction if we wanted to in the

[1:33:51] future. There's um what many people call

[1:33:53] CRAs, community reinvestment agencies.

[1:33:58] I think one of those was tried up around

[1:34:00] the college and it didn't work years

[1:34:02] back before I was a commissioner. And

[1:34:04] then because there's a rail aspect to

[1:34:07] Crescent, then there's the possibility

[1:34:09] of utilizing

[1:34:11] Utah Inland Port Authority

[1:34:13] and doing some sort of an interlocal

[1:34:15] agreement with them. Or there's also

[1:34:18] what are called regionally significant

[1:34:21] development zones, RSDZ. So, there's

[1:34:24] kind of a

[1:34:26] for lack of a better word, a smorgasbord

[1:34:28] of options, and I think that it would be

[1:34:30] good for

[1:34:31] all of us commissioners to be educated

[1:34:34] by UAC if we have that interest to kind

[1:34:37] of show us what would be the best way

[1:34:39] forward out there.

[1:34:41] there's a lot of

[1:34:44] different

[1:34:45] degrees in this just because of the

[1:34:47] railroad,

[1:34:48] you know, the the portion of it the

[1:34:51] recycling is not

[1:34:53] it doesn't utilize any water. It's some

[1:34:56] sort of electrolysis process, but there

[1:34:59] would be a benefit to our solid waste

[1:35:01] district. So,

[1:35:03] I I know that they've got a couple of

[1:35:04] other options. They're looking at Green

[1:35:06] River and something closer to Price as

[1:35:09] well, but I think if there's an option

[1:35:11] for us to benefit from something out

[1:35:13] there, I

[1:35:15] would like to

[1:35:16] reach out to UAC if the chair's fine

[1:35:18] with that and then see if it could

[1:35:20] happen at the next commission meeting.

[1:35:23] And if it can't, then find a schedule

[1:35:24] that works for them that they could

[1:35:26] I'm pretty sure they're willing to

[1:35:28] travel down here to educate us on those

[1:35:30] three different options and

[1:35:33] how how that would look moving forward

[1:35:35] if we so choose to. There's also

[1:35:39] a data center education meeting with UAC

[1:35:43] on the 24th. I think we all got an email

[1:35:45] about that. I think it would be

[1:35:47] important just be

[1:35:49] cuz I'm certainly not pushing a data

[1:35:51] center,

[1:35:52] but those things come up with when these

[1:35:54] kind of discussions happen around the

[1:35:56] Utah Inland Port that as commissioners

[1:35:59] we probably should make an effort to at

[1:36:00] least zoom in to that meeting on the

[1:36:03] 24th and I'd have to look at

[1:36:04] >> think [laughter] they're going to allow

[1:36:05] zoom option. I was

[1:36:06] >> Oh, they're not?

[1:36:07] >> Cuz they want people to show up.

[1:36:09] >> Oh, do they? Well, my apology. I know

[1:36:11] I'm scheduled to show up, but

[1:36:13] >> Yeah, they want people to show up. They

[1:36:14] don't want to zoom, which is a bummer

[1:36:15] cuz it's hard, but

[1:36:17] >> Yeah.

[1:36:17] >> Are you trying to what what

[1:36:18] >> Yeah, that's all I've got on it. I just

[1:36:20] want to get some education for the data

[1:36:22] >> Yeah, and I think whatever if you can

[1:36:24] let us know when they're available. Next

[1:36:26] meeting is fine. I don't think we have a

[1:36:27] workshop plan for that, but if we need

[1:36:29] to look at a different date.

[1:36:30] Go ahead, Brian.

[1:36:31] >> Yeah, I just I'd like to throw in a a

[1:36:33] couple of things. First, I'd like to

[1:36:34] bring up the credit card policy

[1:36:37] um that we had brought forth by our

[1:36:38] internal auditor um up for a discussion

[1:36:41] and then possibly a vote on the

[1:36:42] following meeting at our next meeting.

[1:36:45] So, I'd like to get that that brought up

[1:36:46] to the commission. And then second uh

[1:36:48] also what what Bill saying I've been

[1:36:50] working with Andrew trying to get a

[1:36:52] resolution together for a moratorium on

[1:36:55] data centers. And so, we have something

[1:36:57] started and we're going to wait until of

[1:36:59] course we go to that June 24th meeting

[1:37:01] up there and kind of see what some of

[1:37:02] the other counties are doing as well

[1:37:04] just to make sure that we're that we're

[1:37:06] thinking of all the all the all the

[1:37:08] traps that we might not be that might

[1:37:10] not be seeing. Um and then also I'd like

[1:37:13] to look at bringing forward a

[1:37:16] energy tax on for data data centers as

[1:37:19] well, which is another option that we

[1:37:21] might be able to bring. So, those three

[1:37:23] items if I can get those added to the

[1:37:24] next commission agenda meeting that

[1:37:26] would be great.

[1:37:27] >> Okay, will you send Dana an email?

[1:37:29] >> Yes, I can do that.

[1:37:31] >> All right, and Stephen?

[1:37:32] >> And just noting on the on the CRA

[1:37:34] conversation, we had a presentation from

[1:37:37] you UPC

[1:37:38] down here a couple years ago. I can't

[1:37:40] recall who presented on it. I just

[1:37:43] reached out to Bob Church who is over

[1:37:45] UPC in providing education. We're happy

[1:37:48] to supplement or to provide additional

[1:37:50] information. It may have been UAC or a

[1:37:52] presenter from UAC that presented that.

[1:37:54] But I reached out and also sent that

[1:37:55] information to Commissioner Winkle. But

[1:37:57] they have presented that here I think it

[1:37:59] was like 2 years ago at the Moab Canyon.

[1:38:02] >> And what is UPC?

[1:38:03] >> Sorry, Utah Prosecution Council.

[1:38:05] >> Okay, thanks.

[1:38:05] >> So they basically the attorney portion

[1:38:07] of UAC had had a presentation on it.

[1:38:11] So.

[1:38:15] » Anything else?

[1:38:17] All right. Moving along to the approval

[1:38:19] of the consent agenda items.

[1:38:22] So our first is A, the approval of

[1:38:24] meeting minutes for June 2nd, 2026.

[1:38:27] B is the ratification of payment of

[1:38:29] bills. Total bills of $2,000,000

[1:38:32] $4,084.26.

[1:38:35] Total payroll of $262,013.99.

[1:38:40] For total bills and payroll of

[1:38:41] $2,266,098.25.

[1:38:45] C is the ratification of right of entry

[1:38:48] for Lions Back LLC for the 4th of July

[1:38:50] fireworks.

[1:38:52] D is I C

[1:38:53] ICA with Vortex fireworks for the 4th of

[1:38:56] July fireworks show.

[1:38:58] E is the ratification of local consent

[1:39:00] for Moab Brewers for the 2026 Grand

[1:39:02] County Fair.

[1:39:05] I can't believe you did not plug in the

[1:39:06] fair over there.

[1:39:07] >> Right. Well, I'm working on it.

[1:39:08] >> Okay.

[1:39:08] >> We got the

[1:39:09] got us over there. Yeah.

[1:39:10] >> Museum

[1:39:11] State Co-op

[1:39:13] marketing grant application.

[1:39:15] G is the ratification of letter of

[1:39:17] support for the Friends of the Moab Folk

[1:39:19] Festival state Co-op marketing grant

[1:39:21] application.

[1:39:22] H is ratification of a letter of support

[1:39:24] for the Moab Music Festival Co-op

[1:39:26] marketing grant application. I is a

[1:39:29] grant approval for the Division of

[1:39:30] Outdoor Recreation to the Old Spanish

[1:39:32] Trail Arena for the archery range

[1:39:34] project. J, approval of revised library board bylaws.

[1:39:40] K is S W S S D 1 request for letters

[1:39:44] supporting the district's glass

[1:39:46] recycling grant application.

[1:39:48] It's a solid solid waste SSD.

[1:39:52] Independent contract agreements for the

[1:39:53] 2026 Grand County Fair for Sknob

[1:39:56] Productions.

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[1:40:02] Fair for Pair-A-

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[1:40:08] All right.

[1:40:09] >> So moved.

[1:40:10] >> Second.

[1:40:12] Okay. All in favor?

[1:40:14] That's passed unanimously.

[1:40:17] Six. All right, we're moving on to our

[1:40:19] Four Corners Community Behavioral Health

[1:40:22] Fiscal Year 2027 Area Plan and that is

[1:40:25] with the Executive Director for the Four

[1:40:27] Corners Behavioral Health, Melissa Huntington.

[1:40:31] >> Hi everybody. Can you hear me okay?

[1:40:33] >> We can.

[1:40:34] >> Okay, perfect. So, um

[1:40:37] what I am here to present to you guys

[1:40:39] today and you should have all received a

[1:40:41] copy of the very long document which is

[1:40:44] our

[1:40:45] annual area plan. A few years ago the

[1:40:48] state of Utah moved it to a three-year

[1:40:51] plan and so the in-between years of when

[1:40:55] we get it approved, we update the

[1:40:58] document but we don't have to come

[1:41:00] before the commissions to get it signed.

[1:41:03] That three-year the the first round of

[1:41:06] three-year plans has come and gone and

[1:41:08] we have a new FY27

[1:41:12] three-year plan so this will be the plan

[1:41:14] that is going for the next three years

[1:41:17] and we are coming around to the

[1:41:19] commission meetings to get that

[1:41:20] approved. And for those who who may not

[1:41:24] be aware, the area plan is essentially a

[1:41:26] document that we're statutorily

[1:41:30] obligated to

[1:41:32] write that essentially talks about the

[1:41:34] services that we'll be providing to the

[1:41:36] areas in our catchment area.

[1:41:38] Um and so Four Corners catchment area is

[1:41:42] Carbon, Emery, and Grand County. So, we

[1:41:44] come to each of the commission meetings

[1:41:46] and we present our plan for approval

[1:41:50] from the commissioners to sign um

[1:41:53] indicating their support of the plan for

[1:41:55] the next now for the next 3 years.

[1:41:59] Uh knowing that annually it gets updated

[1:42:01] and reviewed by DHHS for um any updates

[1:42:05] that may occur in between that time.

[1:42:08] So, that's why I'm here today and just

[1:42:11] um

[1:42:12] needing to to get approval and

[1:42:14] signatures for that document and answer

[1:42:16] any questions you may have.

[1:42:21] » Any questions on this 113-page document?

[1:42:25] >> [laughter]

[1:42:28] » We reviewed it at our board meeting. I'm

[1:42:30] the liaison to this board.

[1:42:34] Okay, Mike.

[1:42:35] >> I move to approve the for the fiscal

[1:42:37] year 2027 area plan for for the Four

[1:42:41] Corners Community Behavioral Health

[1:42:43] Incorporated and authorize all

[1:42:45] commission members to sign all

[1:42:47] associated documents.

[1:42:49] >> I'll second that.

[1:42:50] >> Okay, we have a first by Mike and second

[1:42:51] by Bill. Any other questions or

[1:42:53] comments?

[1:42:56] All right, all in favor?

[1:42:58] And that passes five to absent.

[1:43:02] Thank you.

[1:43:03] >> Thank you so much, commissioners. I

[1:43:05] appreciate you guys.

[1:43:06] >> Thanks for what you do.

[1:43:08] >> Thank you.

[1:43:09] >> Okay, so moving along to number seven is

[1:43:12] emergency purchase of maintenance

[1:43:14] department riding mower.

[1:43:16] And do we have Oh, and Marshall to John.

[1:43:18] Come on up, John. Just come on up, John.

[1:43:19] Facility maintenance supervisor.

[1:43:24] » How are we all doing today?

[1:43:26] >> Good. Good.

[1:43:28] >> So, um coming before you today before

[1:43:30] you to request a purchase purchase of a

[1:43:33] riding mower since my current one is

[1:43:37] dead mower.

[1:43:39] Try to maintain it and keep it running,

[1:43:41] but it's come to a point where

[1:43:44] I either need to

[1:43:45] put a lot of money into the one the

[1:43:46] current one I have or get a new one.

[1:43:51] That's where I'm at.

[1:43:54] » Mike.

[1:43:55] >> Isn't this below $5,000 purchasing

[1:43:56] policy?

[1:43:57] >> It is, but it's out of budget.

[1:43:58] >> Oh, okay.

[1:43:59] >> Doesn't request

[1:44:00] >> Then I got you.

[1:44:02] >> Okay, Mike.

[1:44:03] >> Uh I move to approve the purchase of the

[1:44:05] Mustang Z46 zero-turn lawn tractor from

[1:44:09] the local vendor.

[1:44:10] >> Can we have you state the amount?

[1:44:13] >> With the

[1:44:14] >> fiscal impact, $3,899.98.

[1:44:18] >> I'll second.

[1:44:20] >> Okay, should we practice and do a roll

[1:44:21] call vote?

[1:44:23] >> Yeah, might as well.

[1:44:23] >> All right, those in favor?

[1:44:26] >> I.

[1:44:27] >> Do you have to say your name Do you have

[1:44:28] to say your name if you do a roll call

[1:44:29] vote?

[1:44:30] I call Brian.

[1:44:32] Practicing our new policies and

[1:44:33] procedures. Mary.

[1:44:34] >> Yes.

[1:44:36] >> Mike.

[1:44:37] >> I.

[1:44:37] >> Bill.

[1:44:38] >> Yes.

[1:44:39] >> And Melody, yes. Okay, that passes.

[1:44:42] Five with two absent.

[1:44:45] >> Thank you, Commissioner.

[1:44:45] >> Thank you.

[1:44:47] >> Good luck mowing the lawn with that

[1:44:48] thing.

[1:44:49] >> Yeah.

[1:44:50] That's one of our questions, Stephen. Do

[1:44:52] we have to do that now?

[1:44:53] >> [laughter]

[1:44:54] >> I've heard.

[1:44:56] >> All right, number eight is approval of

[1:44:58] the Mick bathrooms the Moffat Recreation

[1:45:00] Center bathroom remodel. Commissioner

[1:45:01] Martinez, do you want to lead on this

[1:45:03] one?

[1:45:04] >> Yeah, I think that we we kind of

[1:45:06] discussed it a little bit at the last

[1:45:07] meeting, so what we're looking for is a

[1:45:09] remodel at the Mick.

[1:45:12] It's a it's a project that's in

[1:45:13] desperate need. I think it's going to

[1:45:14] benefit both our maintenance department

[1:45:16] who's been over there quite a bit and

[1:45:19] all the visitors that we have here to

[1:45:20] Grand County.

[1:45:21] Um there's a bid up there for $200,000.

[1:45:25] Um plus there's going to be the need for

[1:45:27] some

[1:45:28] um

[1:45:29] portable toilets in during the remodel.

[1:45:34] Can I answer any questions that anybody

[1:45:35] has?

[1:45:36] >> Where did

[1:45:38] Where was it

[1:45:40] Where did this come to come out to a

[1:45:41] have what I did it was going to come out

[1:45:43] of?

[1:45:44] >> I think this is going to have to come

[1:45:45] out of capital projects.

[1:45:48] >> And are we voting on the um

[1:45:51] >> [clears throat]

[1:45:52] >> porta-potties as well in this or is that

[1:45:54] included in the $200,000 budget?

[1:45:56] >> going to be additional plus and I think

[1:45:58] that we're going to be looking um

[1:46:00] somewhere somewhere about like $2,000

[1:46:03] somewhere there. So, I mean I I guess we

[1:46:05] could say in a

[1:46:07] $200

[1:46:08] uh

[1:46:09] um $202,000

[1:46:11] up to $202,000

[1:46:13] in the recommended motion.

[1:46:15] >> Okay. Are we voting on the

[1:46:18] um

[1:46:19] We have two quotes for porta-potties.

[1:46:21] Are we voting on those today too as

[1:46:22] well? They're not in the

[1:46:24] >> Yeah, they're both

[1:46:25] >> I think both of them one of them is ADA

[1:46:28] and the other one is a standard was it

[1:46:29] not?

[1:46:30] >> Yeah.

[1:46:30] >> So, it's actually more than 2,000 Brian.

[1:46:33] Let me see if I can find

[1:46:34] >> That quote if we go with the ADA one

[1:46:36] it's um just total of $1,290.

[1:46:40] >> But it was my understanding

[1:46:41] >> you have a weekly

[1:46:43] Oh.

[1:46:44] >> that we need both of those quotes at

[1:46:46] Dana's office.

[1:46:47] >> No.

[1:46:47] >> Okay, then I missed

[1:46:48] >> I just got two two quotes from the two

[1:46:50] companies here in town.

[1:46:52] >> Oh, okay.

[1:46:52] >> One company has

[1:46:53] >> to come up here and talk so we can give

[1:46:54] you the

[1:46:55] >> Please, come on over.

[1:46:56] >> Thanks, Sharon.

[1:46:57] >> Yeah.

[1:46:58] >> You can talk up there or sit down either

[1:46:59] way.

[1:47:02] This has both chairs.

[1:47:04] I just reached out to both companies

[1:47:05] here in town um and got

[1:47:08] quotes for a month of using the

[1:47:10] porta-potties. The

[1:47:11] one company have ADA

[1:47:15] um accessible toilets and also hand

[1:47:18] washing stations. The other company does

[1:47:21] not. Um so, that's why one is quoted

[1:47:24] with four porta potties and the other

[1:47:25] one is one ADA and then three other

[1:47:28] porta potties that go with that.

[1:47:30] >> And and Sharon, do you know what this

[1:47:32] quote is? Is that a one-time fee and

[1:47:35] then it would be more than this because

[1:47:36] it'd be multiple

[1:47:38] service?

[1:47:39] >> There should There is some service

[1:47:42] put in there. I think they have three

[1:47:44] line with three

[1:47:45] >> Uh-huh. A line of three.

[1:47:46] >> And I think that's the service.

[1:47:48] It could be possibly be more cuz

[1:47:50] depending on when this is done, if it's

[1:47:53] done

[1:47:54] during the busy season, we're going to

[1:47:56] need more service than three. If it's

[1:47:57] done in the winter, three would probably

[1:47:59] work.

[1:48:00] >> Okay. That's So three is $180 two weeks.

[1:48:04] So we've got six weeks. It's maybe 360.

[1:48:07] Okay.

[1:48:08] All right. Somebody had their hand up.

[1:48:09] Sorry, Bill.

[1:48:10] >> Sure. I move to approve the $200,000 for

[1:48:14] the full remodel

[1:48:16] of the Mick bathrooms from the What

[1:48:20] >> fund were we talking, Brian? I'm sorry.

[1:48:21] >> Capital projects.

[1:48:22] >> The capital projects fund to be

[1:48:24] completed by a state contractor and also

[1:48:27] include in this for the quote for the

[1:48:31] uh ADA compliant bathrooms for another

[1:48:35] $1,290

[1:48:36] with the potential for several hundred

[1:48:39] more if we go over time in cleaning fees

[1:48:42] for those restrooms, portable restrooms.

[1:48:46] >> Second.

[1:48:47] >> Okay. Did I get everything?

[1:48:49] >> Mary second. I feel like

[1:48:50] Mary second. Okay. So we'll do roll call

[1:48:53] vote. Brian?

[1:48:55] >> Yep.

[1:48:55] >> Mary?

[1:48:56] >> Yes.

[1:48:57] >> Mike?

[1:48:58] >> Aye.

[1:48:58] >> Bill?

[1:48:59] >> Yes.

[1:49:00] >> Melody? Yes. That passes five with two

[1:49:02] absent.

[1:49:04] Hooray.

[1:49:07] >> Thank you.

[1:49:08] The county and I thank you a lot.

[1:49:10] >> [laughter]

[1:49:11] >> I was like maintenance thanks us.

[1:49:12] >> And the people.

[1:49:14] >> All right. So number nine is the

[1:49:16] resolution for Vista Antigua amended

[1:49:18] final plat and that is Andrew Jackson of

[1:49:20] Planning Zoning Director.

[1:49:28] » Andrew Jackson, Wake County Planner.

[1:49:32] Um this item asks County Commission to

[1:49:34] approve an amended final plat that

[1:49:37] merges three side-by-side lots in the

[1:49:40] Vista Antiguas Vista Antigua subdivision

[1:49:44] lots 32, 33, and 34 into one larger lot

[1:49:48] called lot 33A totaling about 1.6 acres.

[1:49:54] Um combining the lots erases the

[1:49:56] interior property lines between those

[1:49:59] lots

[1:50:00] um

[1:50:02] but keeps the existing utility and

[1:50:03] drainage easements in place. No new

[1:50:05] lots, roads, or buildings come from this

[1:50:08] request. The area's zoning does not

[1:50:11] change. Staff recommends approval

[1:50:13] subject to the County Engineer's

[1:50:15] signature and that no right-of-ways are

[1:50:17] acknowledged. Additionally, um there

[1:50:20] because it's a planned unit development,

[1:50:22] they do have conditions covenants and

[1:50:24] restrictions

[1:50:26] um

[1:50:27] on the property and in section 4.3

[1:50:32] of their um

[1:50:34] conditions covenants and restrictions

[1:50:36] >> [clears throat]

[1:50:37] >> uh it permits

[1:50:39] lots to be combined as long as no new

[1:50:42] lots are created. Um

[1:50:44] so

[1:50:46] we normally have like some some

[1:50:48] questions with property owners in the

[1:50:50] PUD, but they have already agreed to

[1:50:52] that prior to the subdivision being

[1:50:53] recorded that um lots can be combined.

[1:50:59] And this is by resolution.

[1:51:01] Should be by resolution

[1:51:03] and

[1:51:06] Oh.

[1:51:07] So I I've done these staff reports

[1:51:10] different each time I try and do

[1:51:11] something to see if this works or not.

[1:51:14] And so, actually have the plain English

[1:51:16] summary on the agenda

[1:51:18] summary, which I think came a little bit

[1:51:20] later to you. And then, item two is

[1:51:23] suggested county condition motion.

[1:51:27] So, I'm just trying to make it a little

[1:51:28] easier for folks to find.

[1:51:32] And I think that was sent out in the

[1:51:35] republished packet that was sent to

[1:51:39] earlier today.

[1:51:45] » I'm trying to hunt it down.

[1:51:46] >> It's the first one, number two. Go

[1:51:48] ahead, Ryan.

[1:51:50] >> Um

[1:51:51] let's see here. Um

[1:51:53] after reviewing the staff report and the

[1:51:54] final amended plat and any public

[1:51:56] comment and finding that the plat

[1:51:58] containing lots 32, 33, and 34 into 33A

[1:52:03] is consistent with the Entrada Antigua

[1:52:06] PUD and the Grand County Land Use Code,

[1:52:10] I move to approve this resolution

[1:52:12] approving the amended final plat for

[1:52:14] Vista Antigua PUD phase one, lots 32,

[1:52:18] 33, 34, and to authorize the commission

[1:52:22] chair to execute the plat subject to the

[1:52:25] county engineer's signature and a

[1:52:27] notarized owner's acknowledgement.

[1:52:29] >> Thank you. I'll second.

[1:52:30] >> I'll second by Bell.

[1:52:32] Any discussion? Any questions?

[1:52:36] All right, all in favor?

[1:52:39] >> Thank you.

[1:52:39] >> Are you opposed?

[1:52:41] >> Oh, no. I I [laughter] I apologize.

[1:52:44] >> Okay.

[1:52:44] >> I was raising my hand in my head.

[1:52:47] >> That passes 5-0.

[1:52:49] All right. Thank you, Andrew.

[1:52:52] We're going to move on to number 10, is

[1:52:54] the resolution to respect our neighbors'

[1:52:56] rights and the rule of law at the July

[1:52:58] 4th fireworks. I think Commissioner, are

[1:53:00] you going to Megan, are you going to

[1:53:01] read this resolution?

[1:53:02] Okay. And then, I have invited um

[1:53:05] the fire department, so we have Clark

[1:53:07] Mon here and and he's going to talk

[1:53:09] about some of the calls and and some

[1:53:12] that they have in the national

[1:53:14] need that resolution for a minute.

[1:53:16] Yeah, and then you can go ahead and come

[1:53:17] up with these like

[1:53:19] You can stand and you can sit.

[1:53:20] >> Enjoy the family during 4th of July and

[1:53:22] stay the least.

[1:53:23] >> Yeah.

[1:53:24] >> A resolution to respect our neighbors'

[1:53:27] rights and the rules of law regarding

[1:53:29] use of fireworks on and around the 4th

[1:53:32] of July celebration.

[1:53:34] Whereas current and forecasted prolonged

[1:53:37] drought coupled with the extreme dry

[1:53:39] vegetation throughout southeastern Utah

[1:53:42] have created hazardous fire conditions

[1:53:44] demanding extreme caution and whereas

[1:53:49] ignited fireworks are known to be a

[1:53:51] cause of wildfires and

[1:53:54] minimizing the threat of wild fire in

[1:53:57] Grand County is critical to maintain

[1:54:00] public health, safety, welfare, and

[1:54:02] economic well-being of Grand County

[1:54:05] citizens. And whereas the 4th of

[1:54:08] July celebration, the founding of

[1:54:10] America, a nation bound by the rule of

[1:54:13] law. And whereas in past years illegal

[1:54:16] fireworks have been discharged without

[1:54:19] respect to laws and regard disregard to

[1:54:22] other citizens' rights and safeties and

[1:54:25] welfare. And whereas the city Moab City

[1:54:29] adopted ordinance 26 I mean 2026-10 and on April 28, 2026

[1:54:39] imposing a temporary ban on the

[1:54:41] discharge of fireworks within designated

[1:54:43] areas of the city.

[1:54:45] Now, therefore, it be resolved that by

[1:54:48] the Grand County Commission that it does

[1:54:50] hereby respectfully

[1:54:52] implore implore that citizens to respect

[1:54:55] our neighbors' rights and the rule of

[1:54:57] law including discharging or using any

[1:55:01] kind of fireworks on public or

[1:55:03] unincorporated private land regarding

[1:55:06] use of legal fireworks on and around the

[1:55:08] 4th of July celebration.

[1:55:12] Thank you.

[1:55:13] And Clark, I'd love you to share what

[1:55:15] it's like to be a fireman on the 4th of

[1:55:17] July.

[1:55:18] >> Okay. Yeah, that's that's fantastic.

[1:55:21] You're doing that as a commission.

[1:55:23] As you guys all are well aware of, it's

[1:55:26] exceptionally dry this year.

[1:55:28] Our fire danger rating is very high at

[1:55:31] all elevations in Grant County right

[1:55:32] now.

[1:55:33] Um

[1:55:34] one of the primary ingredients that go

[1:55:36] into that,

[1:55:37] the fire danger rating is the energy

[1:55:39] release component or ERC, what it's

[1:55:41] called. It's basically a measure of how

[1:55:43] hot,

[1:55:44] intense, and difficult to control a

[1:55:46] wildfire is. And right now,

[1:55:50] I mean, that's based off the dryness of

[1:55:52] the vegetation in a given area.

[1:55:54] Right now, in the lower elevations of

[1:55:55] Grant County, we're at the 95th

[1:55:57] percentile

[1:55:58] for that, well above the 10-year

[1:56:00] average. At the higher elevations, like

[1:56:02] up in the

[1:56:03] Sal Mountains, we're getting to 97th

[1:56:06] percentile, so it's even more severe up

[1:56:08] there, which is approaching a 10-year uh

[1:56:12] high for the fire danger for this time

[1:56:14] of year. We are right now at the peak of

[1:56:16] our annual fire danger right around the

[1:56:20] middle of June to the end of July, even

[1:56:22] dribbling into the

[1:56:23] first week in July is when we we reach

[1:56:26] the the peak of our fire danger every

[1:56:29] year. This part of the state, so

[1:56:32] uh with that, going into the 4th of July

[1:56:36] and fireworks,

[1:56:37] uh as the fire department, we're

[1:56:39] stressing the importance of using

[1:56:42] personal fireworks safely.

[1:56:44] As you

[1:56:46] mentioned,

[1:56:47] All right, so uh that's very important

[1:56:51] out there, only using fireworks outside

[1:56:53] in areas clear of vegetation, at least

[1:56:55] 20 ft away from uh structures, vehicles,

[1:56:59] anything flammable.

[1:57:01] Always having a bucket or a hose

[1:57:03] available to extinguish any new fires

[1:57:06] that may start as a result of those

[1:57:08] fireworks.

[1:57:10] It's been busy for us

[1:57:12] on the 4th of July.

[1:57:14] Some busier than others, but

[1:57:17] we will have

[1:57:19] most of our engines fully staffed that

[1:57:21] evening with a combination of our

[1:57:22] regular staff and volunteer

[1:57:24] firefighters.

[1:57:25] And we'll be patrolling around the

[1:57:27] valley and and working through the

[1:57:29] evening as needed. Our partners over at

[1:57:31] the BLM are also going to keep staffing

[1:57:33] until

[1:57:35] around 8:00 p.m. that evening.

[1:57:38] So, we We want to encourage the public

[1:57:40] to stay clear of emergency vehicles as

[1:57:43] we move around the valley and

[1:57:46] avoid blocking access to the fire

[1:57:47] hydrants.

[1:57:51] Any questions?

[1:57:55] » No, thank you.

[1:57:56] >> All right, thank you.

[1:57:57] >> Maybe maybe one question. I'm sure you

[1:57:59] guys are on top of all of this, but

[1:58:03] I'm hoping and guessing that the Forest

[1:58:05] Service and others are on I know that we

[1:58:07] get a regular updates from the state

[1:58:09] fire.

[1:58:11] But we don't really see much from the

[1:58:13] Forest Service or anything, but they're

[1:58:15] on high alert as well because I'm sure

[1:58:17] that fireworks with the

[1:58:19] 250th celebration is not going to be

[1:58:22] limited to the streets of Moab.

[1:58:25] >> Yeah, it's not. I think

[1:58:27] Yeah, all the federal partners are you

[1:58:30] know, aware of the condition and they're

[1:58:32] staffed accordingly.

[1:58:34] Yeah. I know that you know, they're

[1:58:36] increasing the patrols in the state

[1:58:38] forest.

[1:58:40] >> I think I'll make that motion.

[1:58:42] >> Oh.

[1:58:43] >> It's all he's got it.

[1:58:44] >> Still for it.

[1:58:45] >> I move to approve the resolution to

[1:58:47] respect our neighbors' rights and rule

[1:58:49] of law regarding the use of fireworks on

[1:58:52] and around the 4th of July celebrations.

[1:58:55] >> Okay. And second by Mike.

[1:58:59] All in favor?

[1:59:01] All right, that passes by votes. Thank

[1:59:03] you.

[1:59:04] >> Thank you.

[1:59:05] >> Good evening.

[1:59:07] Number 11 is a resolution adopting

[1:59:10] letter a letters of support policy. And

[1:59:12] this is commission administrative Mark

[1:59:15] Tyner. Do you want to talk about this?

[1:59:17] >> Yes, in your packets you have a proposed

[1:59:20] resolution and policy addressing letters

[1:59:24] of support and how those are requested

[1:59:27] of the county commission.

[1:59:29] This will allow for a more structured

[1:59:31] process

[1:59:33] and also will allow us to overcome admin

[1:59:37] to

[1:59:38] maintain and ensure that any of these

[1:59:41] requests align with the county's goals

[1:59:43] and objectives.

[1:59:46] » Mike.

[1:59:47] >> I make a motion. I move to approve the

[1:59:48] resolution adopting the county letters

[1:59:50] of support policy.

[1:59:52] >> I'll second that.

[1:59:53] >> Okay.

[1:59:54] Any other questions? Go ahead, Mary.

[1:59:56] >> I just want to thank you, Mark, for

[1:59:57] doing this. It's something that probably

[1:59:59] should have been years ago and I'm glad

[2:00:01] that someone stepped forward and did it.

[2:00:03] Thank you very much.

[2:00:04] >> Well, thank you. And and one of our

[2:00:06] commissioners had had asked me to to

[2:00:09] look into that, Mary, and I appreciate

[2:00:11] that.

[2:00:11] >> Thank you.

[2:00:13] Okay. And then will we be sending out

[2:00:15] this policy to

[2:00:18] our partners?

[2:00:19] >> Yes.

[2:00:20] >> Okay.

[2:00:20] >> And all the nonprofits in town.

[2:00:22] >> Yeah, and that was that was mentioned at

[2:00:24] the last meeting when we brought that

[2:00:26] up. We needed to widen the scope of that

[2:00:28] policy.

[2:00:29] >> There are boards and some of our

[2:00:31] partners, just like those that are here

[2:00:32] tonight and others.

[2:00:34] >> Thank you.

[2:00:35] >> We will.

[2:00:36] >> All right. Any other questions or

[2:00:37] comments?

[2:00:38] >> No, just real

[2:00:40] Nope, just real quick. Thanks, Mark, for

[2:00:41] getting that put together. Um, you know,

[2:00:43] not only does this does this help the

[2:00:45] commissioners, but it also helps the

[2:00:46] staff as well um that are being asked to

[2:00:49] review so So thank you for doing that

[2:00:50] then.

[2:00:51] >> Thanks, Gabe.

[2:00:52] >> And then potentially if there happened

[2:00:54] to be a newspaper that wanted to, you

[2:00:56] know, us to reach out to a newspaper to

[2:00:58] give them this information, maybe they

[2:01:00] would want to circulate uh the county's

[2:01:02] stance on letters of support.

[2:01:05] >> [laughter]

[2:01:06] >> Potentially.

[2:01:09] >> All right. All in favor?

[2:01:11] And that passes unanimously five with

[2:01:13] two absent.

[2:01:16] Okay, moving on to number 12 is our

[2:01:18] 2026-2027

[2:01:20] opioid settlement funding allocation.

[2:01:23] And we have um

[2:01:25] Gabe Boyter online, our clerk auditor.

[2:01:28] We also have some of the applicants in

[2:01:30] the audience and I will ask them to come

[2:01:32] and speak as well after Gabe.

[2:01:36] >> Thank you. I don't need to say too much.

[2:01:37] Can you hear me?

[2:01:39] >> We can.

[2:01:40] >> All right. So um we've been um taking

[2:01:42] this action um approving an allocation

[2:01:44] here for a few years so you all should

[2:01:46] be uh familiar. Um as part of the state

[2:01:48] of Utah and Grand County's involvement

[2:01:50] in the One Utah National Opioid

[2:01:51] Settlement funds are dispersed to Grand

[2:01:53] County for the purpose of addressing

[2:01:55] community needs related to opioid use

[2:01:57] disorders. Um

[2:01:59] and so we received requests from all of

[2:02:01] the existing recipients um

[2:02:03] as well as a request from the Southeast

[2:02:06] Utah Health Department.

[2:02:08] And I I tried to um include as much

[2:02:10] detail as as possible in the agenda

[2:02:13] packet as it relates to those requests

[2:02:15] received which were all updated. Um

[2:02:18] in the past we had kind of recycled the

[2:02:20] previous request to just extend the

[2:02:22] allocation for another year. Um this

[2:02:25] time all recipient organizations um

[2:02:28] entered a updated request. Um I also

[2:02:31] included information regarding uh the

[2:02:33] MOU itself, uh the amount uh that we

[2:02:37] would expect to receive. There's some

[2:02:38] information That's information prepared

[2:02:40] by UAC, the Utah Association of

[2:02:43] Counties,

[2:02:44] um as well as a tracking spreadsheet

[2:02:46] that I maintain, um that just uh shows

[2:02:49] all of the disbursements made uh to date

[2:02:53] over the years since this program began.

[2:02:56] Um I'm really proud of it. We've uh

[2:02:58] dispersed funds out into the community

[2:03:00] uh with no delay. Um

[2:03:03] And and I I and I think we we've been

[2:03:05] out ahead as a county in the state in

[2:03:07] terms of getting these funds out into our community

[2:03:10] um so that they can be used for their

[2:03:12] intended purpose.

[2:03:13] Um and so

[2:03:15] I don't think I have anything else to

[2:03:17] say other than um you know, there

[2:03:19] there's a there is a an additional

[2:03:21] request to consider here that is outside

[2:03:23] of what we had what has been allocated

[2:03:25] in the past.

[2:03:29] » Thank you, Gabe. We're going to let them

[2:03:31] present.

[2:03:32] >> Oh, okay.

[2:03:32] >> Yeah. We're Well, anyone that came, I'm

[2:03:35] sent out an invitation. So, we have it

[2:03:37] looks like we have our recovery center

[2:03:40] here and we have people from the

[2:03:43] collective and New Star. So, anyway, who

[2:03:45] would like to come up and I know some of

[2:03:46] you wanted to speak. So, anybody want to

[2:03:48] start first?

[2:03:50] >> We can start.

[2:03:53] >> Dr. Cook, sorry.

[2:03:56] >> [laughter]

[2:03:57] >> And how do we hook up?

[2:03:58] >> And Doug, okay, so

[2:04:00] you'll want to get on the on the Zoom.

[2:04:03] You'll want to you switch on the Zoom

[2:04:05] and then we can share the screen. But,

[2:04:07] it's the same as the

[2:04:10] We have it in there. So, people can

[2:04:12] follow along online if you

[2:04:18] » We sent this to the agenda as well. It

[2:04:20] should be included.

[2:04:22] >> I think it is. Yeah.

[2:04:23] >> Um

[2:04:25] I think what I'll do is just for brevity

[2:04:28] is to just refer to the flyer

[2:04:31] and then also um

[2:04:33] associate MRC services with the One Utah

[2:04:37] opioid settlement core strategy.

[2:04:41] Um so, I think now most of us who live

[2:04:44] in this community are aware of the

[2:04:45] Recovery Center.

[2:04:47] We are a division of the hospital, which

[2:04:49] is a federally designated critical

[2:04:51] access hospital. So, it is a non-profit

[2:04:54] 501(c)(3).

[2:04:56] I think there's sometimes some confusion

[2:04:58] over our funding. Um in terms of when

[2:05:01] we're applying for funding that we're

[2:05:02] kind of come from a profiting

[2:05:04] organization.

[2:05:06] We are the only full-service outpatient

[2:05:09] recovery center in Southeast Utah, so

[2:05:10] we're kind of unique in that regard.

[2:05:13] We seek to serve all people regardless

[2:05:16] of their ability to pay for services,

[2:05:18] and we provide full spectrum outpatient

[2:05:21] services for substance use disorder with

[2:05:23] aggressive wrap-around case management

[2:05:26] and other services extending

[2:05:28] particularly to vulnerable populations,

[2:05:30] particularly incarcerated people and

[2:05:32] pregnant and parenting women.

[2:05:35] So, we prescribe opioid use disorder

[2:05:37] medications and medications for managing

[2:05:41] withdrawal.

[2:05:42] Excuse [clears throat] me, we integrate

[2:05:44] primary care and mental health into our

[2:05:46] treatment. We care for pregnant women in

[2:05:48] our program. We do provide pretty robust

[2:05:51] harm reduction services in the clinic,

[2:05:53] and then we provide really robust um

[2:05:55] case management and peer support. We

[2:05:58] also have supportive programming like

[2:05:59] weekly groups um including everything

[2:06:02] from music, fitness, meditation,

[2:06:04] acupuncture, talking circle, and we put

[2:06:07] on some community events like art for

[2:06:09] the recovery community. Uh we do extend

[2:06:12] services into the Grand County uh jail.

[2:06:15] So, I provide medical services for folks

[2:06:18] there particularly with particular

[2:06:19] attention to any substance use needs. We

[2:06:22] started a harm reduction program in the

[2:06:24] jail,

[2:06:25] which has been very successful in terms

[2:06:27] of

[2:06:28] um educating people who are their

[2:06:31] reasonable options for access to

[2:06:33] treatment, which is really alarming to

[2:06:36] me how people actually don't know that

[2:06:37] there is help out there. And it's been

[2:06:39] really wonderful to partner with Usana

[2:06:41] to have groups in the jail. We've been

[2:06:43] able to develop a program where we

[2:06:45] distribute naloxone to people as they

[2:06:48] exit the jail,

[2:06:49] which is actually in alignment with the

[2:06:51] One Utah Opioid Settlement Strategy. And

[2:06:54] we are one of the most unique rural

[2:06:57] county jails in doing so. Um I presented

[2:07:00] at a national conference on this project

[2:07:02] and we really do stand alone in terms of

[2:07:05] providing naloxone, providing education,

[2:07:08] and providing

[2:07:09] um on-the-spot treatment for substance

[2:07:11] use disorder.

[2:07:13] We feel passionate about it because that

[2:07:15] population particularly is vulnerable to

[2:07:17] reuse as soon as they leave, and they

[2:07:19] have some of the highest overdose rates

[2:07:21] and mortality um

[2:07:23] compared to anybody else in the

[2:07:24] population.

[2:07:26] So, you know, our visits have increased

[2:07:29] and we do pretty hard work like everyone

[2:07:31] else in this valley. We did um

[2:07:34] 3,300 plus visits last year, and we're a

[2:07:38] fairly small staff.

[2:07:40] Um I'm the main provider, Doug's the

[2:07:42] clinic director. We have very part-time

[2:07:44] mid-level provider, two coordinate nurse

[2:07:47] case managers,

[2:07:49] um two recovery nurses, a therapist, and

[2:07:52] a peer support person.

[2:07:54] Um we had a but a nearly a 10% increase

[2:07:57] in visits last year

[2:07:59] um compared to the year before. And you

[2:08:01] know, like Doug was explaining to me

[2:08:03] that from a business model that's almost

[2:08:05] not sustainable.

[2:08:07] Um we had 383

[2:08:09] unique visits last year. So, unique

[2:08:11] patients.

[2:08:12] Sorry.

[2:08:13] >> What are unique visits?

[2:08:14] >> Unique patient encounters. So, new

[2:08:16] patients or patients who are coming

[2:08:18] back. And I think what that speaks to is

[2:08:20] we actually see people with quite high

[2:08:22] intensity and frequency. So, 383 unique

[2:08:25] encounters, but then 3,300

[2:08:29] visits, so people coming back, nurse

[2:08:31] visits, provider visits.

[2:08:33] Um and then out of the population that

[2:08:35] we see at the Recovery Clinic, 33% are

[2:08:38] self-pay

[2:08:39] or uninsured. So, we provide a lot of

[2:08:42] charity care while they're working on

[2:08:44] financial assistance.

[2:08:46] So, um you know, we we really love

[2:08:49] collaborating with the community and we

[2:08:50] appreciate our partnerships in the

[2:08:52] community.

[2:08:53] We feel like we do good work and we base

[2:08:56] everything we do on evidence and

[2:08:58] especially feel passionate about um

[2:09:02] allocation of funds aligning for

[2:09:05] treatment and prevention. The One Utah

[2:09:07] Opioid Settlement core strategy, you

[2:09:09] know, asks to distribute naloxone and

[2:09:12] other FDA drugs, which I feel like we do

[2:09:14] a good job. We do it in our clinic, in

[2:09:16] the jail. We provide naloxone to the

[2:09:18] emergency department and have started a

[2:09:20] program in the emergency department to

[2:09:22] start people on

[2:09:23] >> [clears throat]

[2:09:23] >> treatment as soon as they present an

[2:09:26] opioid overdose.

[2:09:27] We also attend other community events

[2:09:29] and distribute naloxone.

[2:09:31] Um like I've mentioned, we offer

[2:09:33] medication-assisted treatment like

[2:09:35] Suboxone, Vivitrol, methadone, which if

[2:09:38] any of you know anybody in recovery,

[2:09:40] some of them can really speak to the

[2:09:42] value of these medications in

[2:09:43] stabilizing them and being able to

[2:09:45] reclaim their lives, reducing

[2:09:46] recidivism, certainly reducing

[2:09:49] mortality, although it's hard to measure

[2:09:50] that if someone stays alive. They just

[2:09:52] don't die.

[2:09:53] Uh we do um align with the core strategy

[2:09:57] of treating pregnant and postpartum

[2:09:58] women. We have always have a core of

[2:10:00] women who fall in this category and we

[2:10:03] directly manage their care. We

[2:10:04] collaborate with the specialty clinic in

[2:10:06] Salt Lake and we've just begun to bring

[2:10:09] a family medicine OB-trained provider

[2:10:11] into our clinic in a model called

[2:10:14] reverse integration, where she comes to

[2:10:16] us, so that patients don't have to leave

[2:10:18] our clinic because they often won't. You

[2:10:20] know, they won't cross the street.

[2:10:22] Um

[2:10:23] we really value our expansion of warm

[2:10:26] handoffs and and care collaboration and

[2:10:28] case management to helping people get on

[2:10:30] Medicaid, get into residential

[2:10:32] treatment, navigate hospital assistance

[2:10:35] if they need to do that, find housing,

[2:10:38] um collaborate with peer support, etc.

[2:10:41] And then of course um working with

[2:10:43] treatment court and the jail folks. We

[2:10:45] do everything we can to try and support

[2:10:47] them so that they're successful in their

[2:10:49] goals and that we don't find them back

[2:10:51] in the justice system um and

[2:10:53] re-offending, but rather, you know,

[2:10:55] succeeding in their life goals.

[2:10:57] So we we appreciate your time and you

[2:11:00] know, everything pretty much is on this

[2:11:02] one flyer. I didn't go through the the

[2:11:06] presentation slide by slide because I

[2:11:08] figured it was better just to talk about

[2:11:10] what we do, but we're certainly open to

[2:11:13] questions about the work we do in the

[2:11:15] recovery center and just looking forward

[2:11:17] we're applying for grants. We're mostly

[2:11:19] we're very much grant funded. Doug and I

[2:11:22] run around ragged, mostly Doug, managing

[2:11:24] about four or five grants at a time. So

[2:11:27] just demonstrating that we really do

[2:11:28] rely on outside funding for our

[2:11:30] services.

[2:11:31] Um right now we're applying for a grant

[2:11:33] that hopefully will expand our reach

[2:11:36] from into a mobile unit where we'll be

[2:11:38] able to drive around and do outreach and

[2:11:40] provide much more robust telehealth

[2:11:42] services into all of Southeast Utah and

[2:11:45] even up more north like into Emery

[2:11:47] County because we're unique. We have

[2:11:49] people coming from Salt Lake, Grand

[2:11:51] Junction cuz they don't have a model

[2:11:53] like this anywhere else. So we're lucky

[2:11:56] here, you know, but we just we do need

[2:11:58] help. So we appreciate your

[2:11:59] consideration in allocating opioid

[2:12:02] settlement funds to opioid treatment.

[2:12:07] » Thank you.

[2:12:09] Yeah, it's very exciting to have

[2:12:11] this program in our community. It's a

[2:12:14] big help.

[2:12:16] >> Thanks.

[2:12:17] >> Any questions? Any questions, Amelia?

[2:12:20] >> Good work. Appreciate what you do.

[2:12:23] >> Thank you. They're busy people.

[2:12:27] All right.

[2:12:29] Briana, you going to come up? You going

[2:12:30] to come up? Briana's with Wellness

[2:12:32] Collective.

[2:12:38] » Hi. Thanks for having me.

[2:12:40] Briana, I'm the executive director of

[2:12:42] the Wellness Collective.

[2:12:44] And for transparency, I thought I might

[2:12:46] add that I'm also part-time employed at

[2:12:50] USARA, and I'm the board chair for the

[2:12:53] Southeastern Utah Board of Health.

[2:12:55] Though today, I'm here solely to

[2:12:57] represent the Wellness Collective. So,

[2:13:00] I'm just going to speak today about our request for continued opioid

[2:13:04] settlement funding. And today, I think

[2:13:07] Dana so kindly passed out a flyer, or

[2:13:10] she gave a handout, so thanks to Dana

[2:13:12] for that.

[2:13:13] As many of you know, the Wellness

[2:13:15] Collective is a really small nonprofit. Our mission

[2:13:18] is simple, just to provide free or

[2:13:21] low-cost wellness, recovery, and and

[2:13:24] community support programs that are

[2:13:26] accessible to everybody.

[2:13:28] Over the past several years, the opioid

[2:13:31] settlement funding has helped us offer

[2:13:33] recovery and trauma-informed programs

[2:13:36] for not only individuals, but family

[2:13:38] members impacted by substance use.

[2:13:42] Through our partnerships with

[2:13:44] organizations like USARA,

[2:13:47] >> [clears throat]

[2:13:47] >> Seekhaven, EMS, and others,

[2:13:50] we've been able to extend the reach of

[2:13:52] services that are already offered to the

[2:13:54] community

[2:13:56] with ongoing support. So, one thing I

[2:13:58] find encouraging is that we've seen a

[2:14:00] lot of growth in our programs.

[2:14:03] Many of our recovery programs have

[2:14:05] doubled since this time last year. The

[2:14:07] attendance has doubled, and some have

[2:14:09] nearly tripled. So, to me that says

[2:14:12] that, you know, people are using these

[2:14:14] services and they find value in them.

[2:14:17] Um

[2:14:18] in this last fiscal year,

[2:14:20] we received um $11,589

[2:14:24] from the opioid settlement fund. So, I

[2:14:26] we figured that's about $965 a month.

[2:14:30] And

[2:14:31] those dollars helped us to support

[2:14:34] roughly 20 classes um a month. So,

[2:14:37] ongoing 20 classes a month with that

[2:14:39] funding. We really stretch every dollar

[2:14:42] that we that we receive through the

[2:14:45] funding. Um

[2:14:46] because the because Wellness Collective

[2:14:48] doesn't have a salaried staff, we rely

[2:14:52] on volunteers and contracted

[2:14:54] facilitators,

[2:14:56] um donated resources, and and people who

[2:14:59] care, many people who care deeply about

[2:15:02] the community. So, the funding goes

[2:15:04] directly into the programs versus

[2:15:07] salary. Um

[2:15:08] I want to share just a couple quick

[2:15:10] comments, or I guess you could say

[2:15:12] little testimonials that we have

[2:15:13] received from the partners um at C Cabin

[2:15:17] or participants at C Cabin. And that's

[2:15:19] on the handout, but one staff member

[2:15:21] shared that you all are making such a

[2:15:23] difference here for our clients'

[2:15:25] wellness. It's amazing to hear about it.

[2:15:28] And then another um

[2:15:31] another employee wrote, "Client yoga has

[2:15:33] absolutely positively impacted some of

[2:15:36] [clears throat] our shelter clients. A

[2:15:38] couple of them have arranged their

[2:15:39] schedules around this time and continue

[2:15:42] to come even after moving out of the

[2:15:44] shelter."

[2:15:45] So, for me I think that those comments

[2:15:48] really capture, you know, the the why

[2:15:50] this work matters. And I just want to

[2:15:53] emphasize that recovery doesn't only

[2:15:55] happen in treatment settings.

[2:15:58] It happens through relationships and

[2:16:00] connections and belonging and and places

[2:16:03] where people can go that where they feel

[2:16:05] healthy in the

[2:16:07] And [cough] in a rural community like

[2:16:09] ours, those opportunities really matter.

[2:16:12] Um

[2:16:14] in my work in the community, I've had

[2:16:15] the opportunity to observe many of the

[2:16:18] community um

[2:16:20] communities' responses to substance use

[2:16:22] and recovery and prevention. And what

[2:16:24] I've learned is that recovery really

[2:16:27] requires um several different pathways

[2:16:31] to, you know, for recovery. There's not

[2:16:32] just one pathway to recovery. And I

[2:16:35] think that we need to provide, you know,

[2:16:37] one of those pathways.

[2:16:39] Um so, continued funding helps us to

[2:16:42] provide these services to people that

[2:16:44] are relying on them. And um so, we're

[2:16:46] asking for continued support for these

[2:16:48] programs. And

[2:16:51] yeah, these funds are not something new.

[2:16:53] We're not starting something new. We're

[2:16:54] just continuing what's already working

[2:16:57] for our community. So, thank you for

[2:16:59] listening. Thanks for your time.

[2:17:01] Appreciate it.

[2:17:02] >> Any questions?

[2:17:04] >> [clears throat]

[2:17:05] >> Thank you.

[2:17:07] All right.

[2:17:08] Matt, do you want to

[2:17:10] come and talk to us, too? Tell us all

[2:17:11] about your program.

[2:17:13] >> Thank you.

[2:17:16] guys so much for having me

[2:17:19] here today and allowing me this

[2:17:20] opportunity.

[2:17:22] Um USU Eastern is a 501c

[2:17:26] nonprofit that relies solely on grants

[2:17:29] such as this to provide services free to

[2:17:32] everybody.

[2:17:34] Um

[2:17:35] Grand County is part of Utah Southeast

[2:17:38] Health District, which has experienced

[2:17:40] some of the highest overdose mortality

[2:17:42] rates in the state. Um in 2023, Grand

[2:17:46] County had a fatal overdose rate of all

[2:17:49] drugs of 31 deaths per 100,000

[2:17:51] residents, substantially exceeding the

[2:17:54] statewide rate of 18.5 per 100,000

[2:17:57] residents. However, there has been

[2:18:00] improvement in the recent years.

[2:18:02] In 2024, that number dropped from 31

[2:18:05] down to 20.

[2:18:07] And prob- the preliminary data for 2025

[2:18:12] indicates that that number will drop

[2:18:14] down to 10. 10 deaths per 100,000

[2:18:18] um residents.

[2:18:20] Um U Sara has participated in Grant

[2:18:23] County's opioid settlement fund at 60%

[2:18:26] since April of 2024.

[2:18:29] Um from April 2024 to March 2026, U Sara

[2:18:33] has been able to use that funding to

[2:18:35] provide

[2:18:36] um 1,128

[2:18:38] peer coaching sessions to 109 unique

[2:18:42] individuals, providing over 10 peer

[2:18:44] coaching sessions per week on average.

[2:18:47] Um 444 mutual aid recovery groups with

[2:18:51] 2,424

[2:18:53] attendees, offering four groups per week

[2:18:56] with an average of 23 attendees. In

[2:18:59] addition to this, we provide a support

[2:19:01] group weekly in the jail with the

[2:19:02] attending

[2:19:04] uh with them attending online two times

[2:19:07] per week, and we offer individual

[2:19:09] recovery support um upon request

[2:19:14] for folks that are um exiting the jail.

[2:19:17] Um 39 community events

[2:19:20] that were attended by 8,426

[2:19:23] people. This includes our overdose

[2:19:26] awareness event that honors lives lost

[2:19:28] while um providing education to the

[2:19:32] community on um Narcan

[2:19:35] and um informing them on prevention, and

[2:19:38] our recovery day celebration that allows

[2:19:41] folks to get to know all of the

[2:19:42] resources that are available to them in

[2:19:45] a fun and loving way while sharing

[2:19:47] stories of hope and recovery.

[2:19:49] One way that U Sara measures success is

[2:19:52] through improved recovery capital.

[2:19:54] refers to investments

[2:19:57] that people make in their own lives. Um,

[2:19:59] this includes relationships, social

[2:20:01] connecting connections, sorry, housing,

[2:20:05] employment, mental health, physical

[2:20:06] health, and substance use. The more

[2:20:09] recovery capital that a person builds

[2:20:11] up, the greater the likelihood that they

[2:20:13] will be successful in long-term

[2:20:14] recovery.

[2:20:16] To measure the recovery capital, you

[2:20:18] SARP began administering the substance

[2:20:21] use recovery evaluation, also known as

[2:20:24] the SURE, in 2022.

[2:20:27] The SURE includes 21 questions across

[2:20:30] six different domains of recovery

[2:20:32] capital.

[2:20:33] As shown in the chart below, average

[2:20:36] total SURE scores increased from the

[2:20:38] first administration to the second

[2:20:40] administration across each domain.

[2:20:43] Um, and that's typically between 3 to 6

[2:20:46] months.

[2:20:48] Um, the greatest gains occurred within

[2:20:50] the domains of outlook on life.

[2:20:53] Um, which include

[2:20:56] uh, having realistic hopes and goals,

[2:20:59] feeling positive, and feeling happy with

[2:21:01] one's quality of life overall. As you

[2:21:05] can see, the feeling happy with their

[2:21:07] quality of life is up 14.3%.

[2:21:11] Uh, this is huge. As a person in

[2:21:13] recovery myself, this particular domain

[2:21:16] has played a big role in my long-term

[2:21:17] recovery. It was incre- It It was

[2:21:20] incredibly important to find joy and

[2:21:23] build a kind of life that I no longer

[2:21:24] wish to escape from. And these are

[2:21:26] things that we get to do with folks as

[2:21:29] they come in. Questions in the material

[2:21:31] resources domain include having stable

[2:21:34] housing, regular income, and managing

[2:21:36] their money well.

[2:21:37] is up 22.1%.

[2:21:42] Questions in the self-care domain focus

[2:21:44] on taking care of one's mental and

[2:21:46] physical health, eating a good diet,

[2:21:48] sleeping well, and having good routine.

[2:21:51] Um, taking care of physical health is up

[2:21:53] 14.1%.

[2:21:55] And why is this so important? It's

[2:21:57] important because it repairs the the

[2:22:00] physic

[2:22:01] the Sorry, physiological

[2:22:05] toll of substance use, stabilizes moods,

[2:22:08] and by restoring the brain's reward

[2:22:10] system, and reduces the likelihood of

[2:22:12] relapse.

[2:22:13] These results align with our efforts to

[2:22:16] help people find and obtain employment,

[2:22:19] secure stable housing, build hope for

[2:22:21] the future, and take better care of

[2:22:23] themselves. As we now know, the opposite

[2:22:26] of addiction is connection.

[2:22:28] And I just want to say thank you, guys,

[2:22:30] for allowing me this opportunity. I'm

[2:22:32] really grateful to be here in front of

[2:22:33] you today.

[2:22:37] » Brian?

[2:22:38] >> Yeah, I'd like to move to approve the

[2:22:40] allocation of opioid settlement funds

[2:22:42] with the following allocation

[2:22:44] percentages.

[2:22:45] U-Turn at 60%, Wellness Collective 20%,

[2:22:49] the White Hawk Regional Recovery Center

[2:22:51] 20%.

[2:22:53] Um

[2:22:55] So

[2:22:56] Um and associated funding agreements for

[2:22:59] each reci- recipient entity upon

[2:23:02] completion of review by the county

[2:23:03] attorney. And then I'd like to make a

[2:23:05] comment after the second.

[2:23:06] >> Okay. So, second. Go ahead, Brian.

[2:23:09] >> also.

[2:23:10] >> Okay.

[2:23:11] >> Yeah, I just want to say thank you. And

[2:23:13] then I'd just like to go back over those

[2:23:14] numbers that you just said. Um 2023, 31 people every 100,000 people die.

[2:23:22] >> Yeah, in our area.

[2:23:24] >> Mhm.

[2:23:25] And then you look at the funding that

[2:23:26] started also in 2023.

[2:23:28] Um it just shows that, you know, what a difference we can do.

[2:23:32] >> Yeah, it's uh

[2:23:33] It's it's a big big So

[2:23:36] >> Thank you to all these groups. You guys

[2:23:37] are doing fantastic work.

[2:23:39] >> And it's been great having all of these

[2:23:41] partnerships too in the community. We

[2:23:43] all work really well together, so

[2:23:46] it's been awesome. Thank you, guys.

[2:23:49] >> Go.

[2:23:50] >> Yeah, I

[2:23:51] I've had multiple

[2:23:53] friends and acquaintances that have gone

[2:23:55] through these programs. I can't speak um

[2:23:58] highly enough for what you guys do, and

[2:24:01] it's a personal issue for many of us,

[2:24:03] you know, maybe not in our own lives,

[2:24:05] but in our lives, right? Lives that we

[2:24:09] touch daily, so

[2:24:10] I I want to thank all of you, every one

[2:24:12] of you.

[2:24:13] >> Thank you.

[2:24:15] Stephen has comments.

[2:24:16] >> I just want to say that these these

[2:24:18] organizations that presented today, um

[2:24:20] it's a pleasure that my office gets to

[2:24:22] interact and work with them through the

[2:24:24] Recovery Court Program.

[2:24:25] Um without their help, assistance, and

[2:24:28] uh support that they give individuals in

[2:24:30] the community, a lot of folks would not

[2:24:32] be able to make the progress that they

[2:24:33] do. Um it's not a perfect place to be

[2:24:35] involved in the the criminal justice

[2:24:37] system while trying to go through

[2:24:38] substance abuse issues.

[2:24:40] Um however, it happens, and we're

[2:24:42] fortunate that we have great

[2:24:43] partnerships, and the support that these

[2:24:45] programs have have shared with this

[2:24:47] community with my office, as well.

[2:24:50] >> And I would just like to point out that

[2:24:52] the health department did put in a

[2:24:54] funding request, and I appreciate that

[2:24:57] funding request. However, I feel like

[2:24:58] those are being addressed through these

[2:25:01] three

[2:25:02] um resources, and if there's any way to

[2:25:05] include the health department in in um

[2:25:08] giving them another maybe bringing some

[2:25:10] of those Narcan kits or something over

[2:25:12] to them if they do have a different

[2:25:13] demographic of people. Might be just a

[2:25:16] thought just to include them in the

[2:25:18] conversation because they're definitely

[2:25:19] a partner with us, but even though we're

[2:25:21] not going to give them any funding

[2:25:22] today, I did want to recognize that, and

[2:25:24] they they do do good program in Emery

[2:25:27] and Carbon County. But, I think you guys

[2:25:28] are doing a fantastic job here, and so

[2:25:31] we want to keep that funding level the

[2:25:32] same.

[2:25:34] Any other comments?

[2:25:36] Okay, those in favor?

[2:25:39] All right. Thank you. You guys have a

[2:25:41] good evening.

[2:25:42] >> Thank you guys.

[2:25:43] >> Thank you.

[2:25:45] >> Okay,

[2:25:46] we are on the 13th, which is the

[2:25:48] approval of the 2026 certified tax

[2:25:50] rates. And so, Gabe is back online.

[2:25:54] All right.

[2:25:54] >> Thank you, Chair. Um so, this is another

[2:25:56] item that we see uh this time of year

[2:25:59] every year, and that's approving the

[2:26:01] certified tax rate. And so, once the

[2:26:03] once Assessor Swasey and her office um

[2:26:06] finishes up all of the valuations, um

[2:26:08] and they're doing that right up until

[2:26:10] the final hour. I'm sure all the

[2:26:11] assessors across the state are. It's

[2:26:13] quite a big undertaking.

[2:26:15] Um we're ready to work with the State

[2:26:17] Tax Commission to to set the rates. And

[2:26:20] I tried to I tried to explain how that

[2:26:22] rate is set in the in the most concise

[2:26:24] way possible with a screen grab from the figures as they appear in the the um

[2:26:30] certified tax rate portal that I that I

[2:26:32] use to transfer all this information. Um

[2:26:35] and essentially what it boils down to is

[2:26:37] um there's a year-end budgeted revenue

[2:26:40] from 2025 that comes from property tax

[2:26:42] to support general operations.

[2:26:45] Um added to that year-end budgeted

[2:26:47] revenue is uh

[2:26:49] the new grow are the new growth figures.

[2:26:51] And so, that gives us this overall

[2:26:53] certified tax rate and uh revenue. Uh

[2:26:56] and then that amount is divided by the

[2:27:00] overall value that the assessors come up

[2:27:02] with across the entire county.

[2:27:04] Um and then that gives us uh the

[2:27:06] certified tax rate. And so, of course,

[2:27:08] the value goes up every year, right? But

[2:27:11] um our the yeah, the uh

[2:27:13] the budgeted revenue that Grand County

[2:27:16] um you know, has has we've we've stuck

[2:27:18] with the the essentially the same amount

[2:27:20] of budgeted revenue every year plus that

[2:27:22] new growth that gets tacked on.

[2:27:24] Um and so, that means that the tax rate

[2:27:26] actually um goes down um every year

[2:27:29] um

[2:27:29] when as that value rises. Um

[2:27:32] And so, yeah, that the ul- ultimately um

[2:27:37] you know, this would be a We're also

[2:27:39] approving here the certified tax rate

[2:27:41] for library.

[2:27:43] Um and there at this point there's no um

[2:27:46] there's no contemplation by the library

[2:27:48] or this commission uh to go through

[2:27:51] truth truth and taxation and increase

[2:27:53] that tax rate. Um

[2:27:54] it seems like we'd all rather um

[2:27:56] continue to let that tax rate decrease

[2:27:58] for our residents. And

[2:28:00] so that's all I would have to say about

[2:28:02] that.

[2:28:04] >> Thank you, Gabe. I appreciate that. Six

[2:28:06] years in a row.

[2:28:08] Decreased tax rate, that's pretty good.

[2:28:10] That's a wonderful

[2:28:11] >> Go ahead, Mike.

[2:28:12] >> I'd like to make a motion. I move to

[2:28:13] approve the final 2026 Grand County

[2:28:15] certified tax rates as presented on the

[2:28:17] form PT-693

[2:28:20] for count Grand County operations and

[2:28:23] library operations.

[2:28:25] >> And Bill seconds, and Mike has a

[2:28:26] comment.

[2:28:27] >> Yep.

[2:28:27] Uh Gabe, thanks for throwing up that uh

[2:28:29] with the proposed uh rate certification,

[2:28:31] Grand County will have lowered its

[2:28:33] general operation property tax rate for

[2:28:35] the sixth consecutive years. I I I

[2:28:37] actually like seeing that.

[2:28:39] Um a lot of our constituents

[2:28:42] uh see their taxes going up. Uh

[2:28:44] and tax rate is a little different than

[2:28:46] assessed value on your house. Uh but

[2:28:49] it's good to see that we're trying to

[2:28:51] lower that tax rate in general.

[2:28:55] » And Bill, did you have a comment as

[2:28:56] well?

[2:28:57] >> I think Mike covered it. I I think it's

[2:28:59] important to make sure that the public

[2:29:01] is aware that the tax rate

[2:29:03] does go down yearly or has gone down

[2:29:06] yearly, but the

[2:29:08] home values are rising, which means

[2:29:10] they're still paying more in taxes, but

[2:29:12] at a lower rate than the previous year.

[2:29:18] » Additional one?

[2:29:19] >> Yeah, and that of Utah's 29 counties,

[2:29:21] only I there's only five of them that

[2:29:23] have a lower general operation property

[2:29:26] tax than Grand County.

[2:29:29] Go ahead, Brian.

[2:29:30] >> But we do have some of the higher

[2:29:31] property values.

[2:29:32] >> Yes, we do.

[2:29:33] >> [laughter]

[2:29:35] >> Rates and values are different.

[2:29:37] Okay? So, we have a first and a second

[2:29:39] on this

[2:29:41] and all in favor.

[2:29:43] I. All right, that passes.

[2:29:45] >> I thought the headline read tax is going

[2:29:47] down.

[2:29:48] >> Tax rate going

[2:29:50] >> Rate. It's rate.

[2:29:50] >> Tax rate.

[2:29:53] >> All right, we're on to number 15, Moab

[2:29:57] Office of Tourism specially event Wait a

[2:30:00] minute. Number 14, Moab Office of

[2:30:03] Tourism staffing presentation and

[2:30:05] additional staffing request with Michael

[2:30:08] Sullivan, our director of the Moab

[2:30:09] Office of Tourism.

[2:30:17] >> Hello.

[2:30:22] » Um

[2:30:24] I'm Nick Schletta, the director of the

[2:30:26] Moab Office of Tourism.

[2:30:28] Um

[2:30:30] This next item, I was asked to present

[2:30:32] the job description that was attached to

[2:30:34] the item,

[2:30:35] um as well as discuss discuss uh

[2:30:38] staffing generally in the office.

[2:30:44] Um I'll give you guys uh an overview of a finance update to help make this

[2:30:49] decision.

[2:30:51] Um review uh DMO org chart as well as

[2:30:54] the current org chart for the Office of

[2:30:56] Tourism.

[2:30:57] Um present the um job, like I said,

[2:31:01] attached to the item,

[2:31:02] um and discuss some forthcoming requests

[2:31:04] about uh staffing needs in the office.

[2:31:09] So, first um

[2:31:11] screen. Um just a quick finance update

[2:31:14] and a reminder,

[2:31:16] um often times the funding source for

[2:31:18] the Office of Tourism

[2:31:20] is confused with things like the general

[2:31:22] fund,

[2:31:23] um but our office is funded by uh

[2:31:25] transient room tax, TRT, which refer to

[2:31:28] as TRT.

[2:31:29] Um this year, the maximum amount of TRT

[2:31:31] was allocated to mitigation. So, 56%

[2:31:36] um

[2:31:37] was allocated to mitigation sources,

[2:31:39] i.e., not the Mobile Office of Tourism.

[2:31:42] Um the minimum was allocated to our

[2:31:44] office, 44%.

[2:31:47] Um and um

[2:31:49] you know,

[2:31:51] the TRT funds that can be used for

[2:31:52] promotion can only be used for

[2:31:55] establishing and promoting tourism,

[2:31:57] recreation, development, conventions.

[2:32:00] Um and our office is overseen by the

[2:32:03] MTAP board, uh Tourism Advisory Board.

[2:32:07] Um so far this year,

[2:32:09] uh tax disbursements January through May

[2:32:11] are up 27% over the projection.

[2:32:14] We collected 5.7 million through May of

[2:32:17] 2026, and that's an additional 1.25

[2:32:20] million for the year.

[2:32:24] Um

[2:32:26] This uh um

[2:32:28] job description, um

[2:32:30] the

[2:32:31] funding source will be in the

[2:32:34] salary and budget line items for the

[2:32:37] Office of Tourism. This year, we

[2:32:38] budgeted 394,000

[2:32:41] for salary and budgets.

[2:32:43] Excuse me, and benefits. Um

[2:32:46] and with

[2:32:48] uh our current staff of two,

[2:32:51] um

[2:32:52] we will be left over with 146,000

[2:32:56] in salary and benefits for the year.

[2:32:58] Uh and I just give you that number so

[2:33:00] that if you're approving this position,

[2:33:01] you can see that uh we budgeted for

[2:33:03] this.

[2:33:05] Um

[2:33:08] The

[2:33:09] uh anticipated salary for the assistant

[2:33:11] is 55,000

[2:33:13] to 77,000

[2:33:15] and 35,000 for benefits.

[2:33:19] Um I made this presentation to the

[2:33:21] Mobile Tour Tourism Advisory Board as

[2:33:23] well last week.

[2:33:25] Um

[2:33:26] but

[2:33:27] >> enlarged

[2:33:28] >> Pardon?

[2:33:29] >> Can that be enlarged?

[2:33:31] >> Uh the org chart?

[2:33:34] No, so it's I mean Google Slides.

[2:33:36] >> Okay.

[2:33:37] >> Um is there something in particular you

[2:33:39] want?

[2:33:39] >> He's got it. Never mind. He's got it.

[2:33:41] Right there.

[2:33:43] I did just thought I wasn't readable

[2:33:44] from here.

[2:33:46] >> Um this is just an example DMO chart.

[2:33:50] I've been thinking about how DMOs across

[2:33:53] the country and the world are

[2:33:54] structured. Um this is an example from

[2:33:56] the Utah Office of Tourism.

[2:33:58] Um and I think that these verticals as

[2:34:01] sort of levers that the office can pull

[2:34:03] to achieve its objectives. Um at the top

[2:34:07] you can see there's leadership and then

[2:34:09] moving from left to right

[2:34:11] data, marketing including paid, earned,

[2:34:14] and owned functions,

[2:34:17] um global markets,

[2:34:19] community relations, [clears throat]

[2:34:21] strategy, and film.

[2:34:26] Um this is the Moab Office of Tourism's

[2:34:28] organizational chart.

[2:34:30] Um again with the sorts of levers that I

[2:34:32] was referring to

[2:34:34] um

[2:34:35] listed for the staff that we have

[2:34:37] currently.

[2:34:39] Um so leadership at the top,

[2:34:41] um the position uh

[2:34:43] that's attached to this item is an

[2:34:45] administrative assistant position.

[2:34:47] Um under [clears throat] that

[2:34:49] on the left is my previous position in

[2:34:52] the office

[2:34:53] um which covered marketing, paid media,

[2:34:57] website or owned media,

[2:34:59] um and strategy.

[2:35:00] Um Ally Hartford also works across

[2:35:04] marketing and global markets.

[2:35:06] Um the office previously had a position

[2:35:09] um that covered data and community

[2:35:12] relations, which is now vacant.

[2:35:14] Um and Keegan to

[2:35:16] film and

[2:35:17] marketing related to film.

[2:35:23] Um so this job description

[2:35:26] um

[2:35:27] I want to note that all of the

[2:35:29] responsibilities in the description are

[2:35:31] done currently by the office and nothing

[2:35:33] is new. Um this just uh

[2:35:37] in addition to the job description to to

[2:35:39] any of the job descriptions that exist.

[2:35:41] Um it supports the office across all of

[2:35:43] these functions, operations, and then I

[2:35:45] need to finance

[2:35:46] government and board support, visitor

[2:35:48] relations, global markets and

[2:35:50] familiarization,

[2:35:51] um marketing and film.

[2:35:55] Um so reasons to approve this

[2:35:57] description uh is to fill a vacant role.

[2:36:00] Um this office had a

[2:36:02] administrative assistant position

[2:36:04] previously um a number of years ago.

[2:36:07] Um

[2:36:08] Like I said, handles uh tasks currently

[2:36:10] being performed by staff. Um and it is

[2:36:13] in budget for 2026.

[2:36:17] Um I can pause here and answer

[2:36:18] questions. Um

[2:36:21] The host motion is on this slide. Um

[2:36:25] The next section I'll just talk about

[2:36:27] a few other

[2:36:30] staffing needs that we have on hand.

[2:36:32] >> I think Steve might have a lot of

[2:36:33] questions.

[2:36:33] >> So if if you go back to page nine,

[2:36:37] it lists that there's two

[2:36:40] It says three vacancies on it.

[2:36:44] >> All right. Our current org chart?

[2:36:45] >> Yeah.

[2:36:47] There are three vacancies in that in

[2:36:49] your case's office?

[2:36:50] >> Tess might be able to speak to this um

[2:36:52] if she's in the audience.

[2:36:54] Um but uh the administrative assistant

[2:36:57] position existed previously in the

[2:36:59] office.

[2:36:59] >> Right. It was It was combined into the

[2:37:02] into one of the previous positions

[2:37:05] previously when when Skyway

[2:37:08] >> Yeah, I think that it changed into an an

[2:37:10] assistant marketing director.

[2:37:12] >> Right. Yeah, okay.

[2:37:13] I

[2:37:13] >> I just wanted to make sure that the

[2:37:14] information was correct.

[2:37:16] >> That there is whether there is three

[2:37:19] actual vacancies

[2:37:21] right now.

[2:37:23] Whether or not there are three actual

[2:37:25] vacancies.

[2:37:26] >> Um

[2:37:28] so, the answer to that is no. And the

[2:37:31] reason for that is the administrative

[2:37:34] there is this isn't a vacant position

[2:37:37] that we budgeted for. The reason for

[2:37:38] that is um the former administrative

[2:37:42] assistant position which was then rolled

[2:37:44] into the assistant director position was

[2:37:46] specifically assistant director of

[2:37:48] economic development. That position of

[2:37:50] course went away when we restructured

[2:37:51] the

[2:37:52] department in 2025 and therefore that

[2:37:54] position essentially

[2:37:56] went away with

[2:37:57] that. Instead, the previous structure of

[2:37:59] this department has directly included an

[2:38:01] administrative assistant.

[2:38:02] >> Right. But, the the re- the reason why I

[2:38:04] wanted to just make sure we were being

[2:38:06] exceptionally accurate was because there

[2:38:08] was multiple reasons as why we rolled

[2:38:10] that one away. I don't I don't want to

[2:38:12] go I don't want to dig back into it, but

[2:38:14] it was based on the allocation of the

[2:38:16] time

[2:38:17] at the county.

[2:38:18] I don't know.

[2:38:19] It was the audit and everything else.

[2:38:21] >> [cough]

[2:38:21] >> So,

[2:38:22] I just want to make make sure it was

[2:38:23] clear whether there are vacancies or

[2:38:25] not.

[2:38:26] >> Thank you.

[2:38:27] >> Mike.

[2:38:28] >> [clears throat]

[2:38:29] >> Okay.

[2:38:30] >> I'm allergic.

[2:38:30] >> Okay. Uh so, the

[2:38:32] >> I'm allergic to this place. I think it's

[2:38:34] the carpet.

[2:38:35] >> I I like your explanation of approved

[2:38:38] and within budget and the funding source

[2:38:40] being TRT.

[2:38:41] Uh with that, I understand most things

[2:38:44] that are funded by T-

[2:38:46] TRT like salary

[2:38:48] side of it or is the benefit side of it

[2:38:50] funded by TRT also?

[2:38:52] Or is that a county fund on that one?

[2:38:54] >> No, it's it's also funded by benefits.

[2:38:56] So, so the the cost and entirety of

[2:38:58] personnel is funded by TRT if

[2:39:00] they're within the

[2:39:02] office of tourism.

[2:39:03] >> Yep. Just wanted to make sure.

[2:39:04] >> Thank you.

[2:39:06] Mary just you comments love?

[2:39:09] >> I just wanted to say that

[2:39:10] >> [clears throat]

[2:39:11] >> this this office has gone through many

[2:39:13] changes in the last 12 years, but when I

[2:39:16] came when I got on board, you know, I

[2:39:19] came on and it's just the office of

[2:39:20] tourism. It was at the

[2:39:22] office of economic development. And at

[2:39:25] that time, they had four members on the

[2:39:28] staff.

[2:39:30] And that was prior to the economic

[2:39:33] opportunity or

[2:39:35] economic development. And that

[2:39:36] combination.

[2:39:38] So, they are very

[2:39:40] they're they're never a staff they have

[2:39:43] is

[2:39:44] very much decreased.

[2:39:46] And they did not have Phil.

[2:39:49] was at the city.

[2:39:52] So,

[2:39:54] compared to where we were 12 years ago

[2:39:57] and their work has increased, we are

[2:40:00] probably functioning with less than half

[2:40:04] of their functional less than half of

[2:40:05] the staff they were.

[2:40:08] So, I guess with that statement, I'd

[2:40:10] like to make a motion that we fund

[2:40:13] this vacancy [laughter]

[2:40:15] that will be paid for through city

[2:40:18] funding.

[2:40:20] >> I'll second that.

[2:40:21] >> Okay. And did you have a comment, too?

[2:40:22] Cuz I saw you had to come up.

[2:40:23] >> Yes, I do have. Um

[2:40:26] Mine's a little bit different than

[2:40:28] Mary's, but Mick, I um I appreciate the

[2:40:31] job you're doing over there and I hear

[2:40:32] nothing but good that comes out of

[2:40:34] there.

[2:40:35] And of course, I remember when we went

[2:40:37] through the whole hiring thing, I was

[2:40:38] just glad to see you got that job.

[2:40:41] But

[2:40:43] regardless of what the staff looked like

[2:40:46] in the past, I am a proponent of smaller

[2:40:49] government.

[2:40:50] And I always will be. Now, if your staff

[2:40:53] needs to grow and I understand that it

[2:40:56] does, you need that administrative

[2:40:57] assistant. I know the airport needs one.

[2:41:00] There's I mean a full-time one, right?

[2:41:02] I get that portion. When we grow our

[2:41:06] staff in this county,

[2:41:08] the benefits that the

[2:41:10] constituents receive need to grow with

[2:41:13] it, right? And that's that's my only

[2:41:15] request as this this department grows,

[2:41:20] that the performance and the metrics

[2:41:22] that come out of there and the

[2:41:24] businesses and the local workers and

[2:41:27] everybody that that benefits from an

[2:41:30] economy here that isn't

[2:41:32] a negative one, that that's that that

[2:41:35] moves out with your as your department

[2:41:38] expands. I hope I'm making sense. I'm

[2:41:40] going about it probably

[2:41:42] I won't use the word I thought about,

[2:41:43] but backwards, right? But that's all I'm

[2:41:45] trying to communicate is let's not grow

[2:41:48] our

[2:41:49] staff to grow it because we've got a

[2:41:52] extra budget coming in. Let's grow it

[2:41:54] because our entire community sees that

[2:41:57] benefit, right? That is coming out of your office, and I

[2:42:01] commend you for what's coming out of

[2:42:02] there. That's what I'm meaning when I'm

[2:42:04] trying to say.

[2:42:06] >> Right.

[2:42:07] >> [clears throat]

[2:42:07] >> Yeah, no, just just a couple of quick

[2:42:09] things. So, it it it's not so much just

[2:42:11] growth that we're looking at in that

[2:42:13] office. It really is a complete

[2:42:15] redesign. The world of marketing has

[2:42:17] changed from, you know, just just the

[2:42:19] last 2 years. The way that we do

[2:42:21] business is different now than the way

[2:42:22] that we did business previously. So,

[2:42:25] thanks, Matt, for coming in here and

[2:42:26] kind of sharing your vision of how that

[2:42:27] office is going to need to be redesigned

[2:42:30] to match the way that we're doing

[2:42:31] business today. Um however, I don't want

[2:42:34] to [clears throat] gloss over something

[2:42:35] that was in this right here. Overall tax

[2:42:38] collection is up 27%

[2:42:42] over projection, May through January

[2:42:44] disbursement.

[2:42:45] Collected 5.7 million through May of

[2:42:48] 2026.

[2:42:50] That's projections that we had

[2:42:51] projections of 4.45 million. That's an

[2:42:54] additional 1.25 million dollars. Right?

[2:42:58] You asked about benefits right there to our constituents. I mean, I'll talk

[2:43:03] about benefits all day about that. That

[2:43:04] means that's more money inside of every

[2:43:06] single person's pocket, right there.

[2:43:09] That's that's more services that we're

[2:43:11] able to provide to all of our

[2:43:12] constituents. I mean, that's a promise

[2:43:15] right there of of a future opportunity

[2:43:17] for all of our people here in this

[2:43:18] community. So, whatever work that we're

[2:43:20] doing in there, you guys are affecting

[2:43:23] change and I thank you for it.

[2:43:25] >> Yeah, I agree.

[2:43:27] >> Okay.

[2:43:29] Um I know [clears throat] that he had

[2:43:30] some more that he wanted to, but we have

[2:43:32] a we have a motion in a second. So, we

[2:43:35] can go ahead and let's call that vote

[2:43:36] and then he can finish his presentation.

[2:43:38] >> Sure.

[2:43:39] >> Okay.

[2:43:40] Is there

[2:43:41] a- all in favor of motion?

[2:43:44] >> I.

[2:43:44] >> Okay.

[2:43:45] That passes by

[2:43:46] with two abstentions. And then go ahead

[2:43:48] and finish your presentation.

[2:43:50] >> Okay.

[2:43:51] >> Yep.

[2:43:52] >> Um

[2:43:53] Uh thank you for for putting

[2:43:56] uh job description uh that would be

[2:43:57] incredibly helpful to our office.

[2:44:00] Um

[2:44:01] future requests as we think about the

[2:44:02] office and you know, I am taking into

[2:44:04] consideration

[2:44:06] elements of what Bill's talking about

[2:44:08] and and other um

[2:44:10] ideas about how we staff these things. I

[2:44:13] think instead of the idea of just

[2:44:16] looking at staffing and growing things,

[2:44:17] I think establishing business objectives

[2:44:21] and um

[2:44:22] performance indicators are kind of where

[2:44:24] we start. And like I said, as we look at

[2:44:27] org charts and people and different ways

[2:44:29] to achieve those things, that will kind

[2:44:30] of answer the um

[2:44:33] uh

[2:44:33] grow grow the office in terms of

[2:44:35] staffing or

[2:44:37] uh

[2:44:38] kind of I like to refer to it as pulling

[2:44:40] those level levers of those various

[2:44:42] verticals.

[2:44:43] Um so, if there are three areas that I

[2:44:45] think that we could use additional

[2:44:47] support. Um

[2:44:48] you know, I've talked with Tess um and

[2:44:50] also Commission Admin that the office

[2:44:52] can get the support. I don't necessarily

[2:44:54] think that it needs to be full-time

[2:44:56] support in perpetuity.

[2:44:58] Um, so we can staff some of these things

[2:45:00] through contract work, temporary work,

[2:45:03] or potentially full-time in-person work,

[2:45:05] or maybe remote work.

[2:45:07] Um, so but I just wanted to to

[2:45:11] present these ideas to you because

[2:45:13] that's the way to talk about my ideas

[2:45:15] for staffing generally. Um, so the first

[2:45:17] is paid media staffing.

[2:45:19] Um,

[2:45:20] we're spending $1.7 million on paid

[2:45:22] media this year. Um, that work is

[2:45:26] coming up with ads and tactics,

[2:45:27] reviewing those ads, reviewing the

[2:45:30] performance of those things,

[2:45:32] um, and additional support in getting

[2:45:35] ads out and looking at different ways

[2:45:37] that we can attract visitors um, would

[2:45:39] be helpful um, to the office. They'd be

[2:45:42] a point of contact for paid media,

[2:45:44] uh, set up

[2:45:46] uh, organizational documents for the

[2:45:47] office, and then consider reviewing the

[2:45:49] digital tactics, advertisements, and

[2:45:51] reporting on investments.

[2:45:53] Um, we're also going through a rebrand,

[2:45:55] so we're going to inheriting new

[2:45:56] creative,

[2:45:58] so overseeing that brand rollout and

[2:46:00] making sure it's consistent with

[2:46:03] that strategy would be helpful.

[2:46:05] Um, and senior experience would be

[2:46:07] helpful in

[2:46:09] paid media. So,

[2:46:12] you know, we definitely have

[2:46:14] room to grow with the sort of support we

[2:46:16] could have with junior staff,

[2:46:18] um, but somebody that has

[2:46:20] experience [clears throat] in placing

[2:46:21] paid media specifically in tourism would

[2:46:24] be helpful to our office.

[2:46:27] Um, the second is global market staffing

[2:46:29] support.

[2:46:31] Global markets is kind of an industry in

[2:46:33] itself in the tourism

[2:46:35] industry.

[2:46:36] Um,

[2:46:38] uh, specifically

[2:46:40] the

[2:46:41] international visitors come at

[2:46:43] particular times that could be

[2:46:44] beneficial to to go out in Grant County.

[2:46:47] Um, I'm looking at

[2:46:49] particularly July and August when a lot

[2:46:51] of European visitors visit. We have kind

[2:46:53] of a dip in visitation in those months.

[2:46:56] And then an investment in global markets

[2:46:57] could help us attract visitors through

[2:47:00] that period.

[2:47:01] Um

[2:47:02] So this is attending trade shows, but

[2:47:04] also interacting with tour operators and really building out that

[2:47:08] line of business.

[2:47:10] Um

[2:47:11] This work would include identifying the

[2:47:13] markets that we want to target and

[2:47:14] strategy

[2:47:15] set up again organizational documents to

[2:47:18] track success over time

[2:47:20] and then attend and execute the

[2:47:22] strategy.

[2:47:24] Uh outputs.

[2:47:26] Um and the last is data and business

[2:47:28] intelligence.

[2:47:30] Again, all of these types of support are

[2:47:32] in those verticals in that example org

[2:47:34] chart that I showed. Um

[2:47:37] But currently our data is very siloed.

[2:47:39] We're working with Madden Media to

[2:47:42] have [clears throat] our data be more

[2:47:43] integrated with the data

[2:47:45] that they make. Um

[2:47:47] But we could have a better understanding

[2:47:48] of who's coming to Moab from where

[2:47:52] and other sorts of insights that

[2:47:54] lead to business decisions about

[2:47:57] uh who we want to attract and if our

[2:48:00] efforts are working.

[2:48:02] Um so again, I had mentioned

[2:48:03] establishing performance indicators and

[2:48:06] business objectives, understanding um

[2:48:09] where people are coming from. Uh

[2:48:13] Business intelligence can look into

[2:48:14] things like what food we're leaving on

[2:48:16] the table and different opportunities

[2:48:18] that we can pursue

[2:48:20] um

[2:48:20] to attract additional visitors beyond

[2:48:22] what is just happening. Um and then

[2:48:25] consolidating [clears throat] all of

[2:48:26] those sources like I said.

[2:48:28] Um so those are just a few

[2:48:31] areas that I will be looking at

[2:48:34] budgeting for in 2027. And like I said,

[2:48:36] I'll work with HR

[2:48:38] the board and you all um,

[2:48:41] come up with ways to support the office.

[2:48:48] Oh, I have a thank you slide. Thank you.

[2:48:50] >> Thank you.

[2:48:51] >> [clears throat]

[2:48:53] >> Thank you.

[2:48:55] >> All right, well, we can move on to any

[2:48:56] more questions for him?

[2:48:58] >> I I'm good.

[2:48:59] >> Good.

[2:48:59] >> Well, then we will just move on to

[2:49:01] >> Nick. Really appreciate it.

[2:49:03] >> I'm also the next.

[2:49:04] >> Yeah, you're the next one. And you might

[2:49:05] as well just stay there, Jeff, cuz

[2:49:06] you're the next one, huh?

[2:49:07] >> Great. Okay, thanks.

[2:49:08] >> No need to get up and down.

[2:49:09] >> I don't know if you need to join me up.

[2:49:11] >> [clears throat]

[2:49:12] >> So, number 15 is the Moab Office of

[2:49:14] Tourism and Special Events Marketing

[2:49:16] Grant Round 2 funding. Cuz we actually

[2:49:19] did this earlier.

[2:49:21] Go ahead.

[2:49:25] » Make sure I have the attachments.

[2:49:27] Um, the Round 2 of our Special Events

[2:49:30] Marketing Grant [clears throat] closed.

[2:49:31] The Moab Office of Tourism and Special

[2:49:33] Events approved,

[2:49:34] um, or sent a recommendation to you all,

[2:49:37] um, for

[2:49:38] funding.

[2:49:40] Um,

[2:49:41] I'm happy to answer questions about any

[2:49:43] of the recommendations that they made.

[2:49:45] There's a recommended motion.

[2:49:48] Um, this is for events,

[2:49:50] uh, for the next year.

[2:49:53] >> Well, go ahead.

[2:49:54] >> I move to approve special event

[2:49:55] marketing grant awards for events taking

[2:49:58] place July 2026

[2:50:00] through June of 2027 in the amount of

[2:50:03] $89,451.

[2:50:07] » Two.

[2:50:08] >> Seconded by Mike. Okay.

[2:50:10] Any other discussion?

[2:50:12] Brian?

[2:50:14] >> Yeah, I'm just really happy to see this

[2:50:15] program and how it's moving along. Um, I

[2:50:18] know that the goal is to bring in more

[2:50:19] encouraged newer events in off-season

[2:50:22] time. Um, but the other goal for it,

[2:50:25] too, is to be able to attack the funnel

[2:50:27] at a different location, as well. And it

[2:50:29] does provide an opportunity to leverage

[2:50:32] our our TRT to, uh,

[2:50:35] um,

[2:50:36] for other for, uh um sorry, it allows

[2:50:39] people us to leverage our TRT with funds

[2:50:42] from the community as well. So, not only

[2:50:44] does it support

[2:50:45] events that we have, but it also

[2:50:47] supports tourism in general right here.

[2:50:49] So.

[2:50:53] » Okay. Any other questions, comments?

[2:50:56] All in favor.

[2:50:59] And that passes 5-0. Thank you.

[2:51:03] All right. Have a good evening. Good

[2:51:05] night.

[2:51:05] >> Two.

[2:51:06] >> 16 is our Grand County Sheriff's Office

[2:51:09] position backfill request

[2:51:12] with our personnel director

[2:51:14] as presented.

[2:51:17] All right.

[2:51:18] Thank you everyone.

[2:51:19] Um so, for this request, I am

[2:51:23] uh

[2:51:24] essentially addressing two birds with one item. Um so, we have a patrol deputy

[2:51:32] position that will be coming open next

[2:51:35] week. And we are requesting the backfill

[2:51:38] of that position um to stave off

[2:51:41] short-staffing and the necessity of

[2:51:43] having our other officers um either

[2:51:45] working overtime or them being

[2:51:47] short-staffed while on shift.

[2:51:49] With that, for the patrol deputy

[2:51:52] position, part of our policy is that we

[2:51:55] can have an internal roster, meaning

[2:51:57] that if a comparable position comes open

[2:52:00] within a certain period of time, we can

[2:52:01] look to that roster of former former

[2:52:03] candidates for similar position and and

[2:52:07] look at offering that position. There is

[2:52:09] an internal candidate, and that

[2:52:11] candidate um works within a different uh

[2:52:14] section of the Sheriff's Office, and so

[2:52:17] we wanted to proactively also request

[2:52:19] the backfill of a dispatcher position

[2:52:22] because if they are moved into the

[2:52:23] patrol deputy position, then I would

[2:52:25] subsequently be coming back to you all

[2:52:27] in a pri- approximately 2 weeks um to

[2:52:30] request the backfill of that dispatcher

[2:52:32] position, the needs of which are the

[2:52:34] same as the patrol deputy position.

[2:52:40] » Any questions?

[2:52:42] Comments?

[2:52:44] Motions?

[2:52:46] Mary?

[2:52:47] >> I move to approve the backfill of the

[2:52:49] Grant County Sheriff Office patrol

[2:52:51] deputy and dispatcher position effective

[2:52:54] immediately.

[2:52:55] >> Second that.

[2:52:56] >> Okay.

[2:52:58] All in favor?

[2:53:00] >> Aye.

[2:53:01] >> And we have one abstention. So this

[2:53:02] passes four, one abstention and two

[2:53:05] absent.

[2:53:06] >> Fairly.

[2:53:07] >> Thank you all. Thanks, Jess.

[2:53:08] >> So I was like, I was stopped here.

[2:53:10] >> I was wondering why you looked at me all

[2:53:11] weird.

[2:53:12] >> I was like, why did you do this to me?

[2:53:14] >> Oh.

[2:53:15] You're good.

[2:53:17] Okay.

[2:53:17] >> Thank you, Jess.

[2:53:17] >> Thank you.

[2:53:19] guys have any other meetings unless

[2:53:20] anybody wants to see where we are at.

[2:53:23] General Commissioner reports and future considerations. Does anyone have

[2:53:27] anything in their commission reports

[2:53:29] that they'd like to

[2:53:30] talk about?

[2:53:32] >> Um

[2:53:33] >> Go ahead.

[2:53:34] >> Grant County Fair is coming up.

[2:53:36] Shameless plug.

[2:53:37] >> [laughter]

[2:53:37] >> Me and Andrew will be talking here.

[2:53:39] Don't worry in a in a in a day or two

[2:53:41] you'll see a

[2:53:42] uh couple things coming out the paper,

[2:53:44] but again, uh this is the largest local

[2:53:47] event we have for our county.

[2:53:50] Uh we we this is for locals. It's free.

[2:53:53] Come out, have a good time. There's a

[2:53:55] car show, volleyball tournament,

[2:53:56] softball tournament. Uh

[2:53:59] little rodeo. I I wish Andy was here to

[2:54:02] present this or to show off, but we

[2:54:07] tell your friends, family, etc. This is

[2:54:09] a great time and uh I mean, over several

[2:54:12] days.

[2:54:13] A lot of activities. You'll see me out

[2:54:14] there hurting myself in volleyball uh

[2:54:17] this year and the car show. So

[2:54:19] but love to see you all there.

[2:54:22] Ford out.

[2:54:24] >> All right. And then I I can just say

[2:54:26] since I've we've been fast and furious

[2:54:28] on the Arches um Shuttle Subcommittee,

[2:54:31] we've had multiple meetings about this

[2:54:34] and we're moving along with the

[2:54:35] cooperative management agreement between

[2:54:37] the National Park Service and Grand

[2:54:39] County for the management of this pilot

[2:54:41] transit visitor transit system and we

[2:54:43] hope to have RFPs coming out very soon

[2:54:47] and that those are

[2:54:49] being approved by

[2:54:51] our attorneys on both sides so we'll we'll look forward to that and

[2:54:55] then hoping to have as far as our

[2:54:56] timeline goes hoping to have the RFP

[2:55:00] recommendation by our July 7th

[2:55:03] commission meeting and approving that.

[2:55:04] So if we can make that happen, we will

[2:55:06] all

[2:55:07] have a

[2:55:11] Yeah, Merry Christmas as well.

[2:55:13] >> [laughter]

[2:55:13] >> We'll have that we'll have a selection

[2:55:15] on by that July 7th and they will be

[2:55:17] able to start going to work and get

[2:55:19] procuring all of their

[2:55:21] vans and buses and

[2:55:23] get ready to rock and roll for the

[2:55:24] shuttle in September.

[2:55:26] >> Okay.

[2:55:27] >> That's the only update I have. That's

[2:55:29] been our busiest project right now.

[2:55:32] >> Thanks for the update.

[2:55:33] And I already mentioned the one that

[2:55:34] I've got and I'll follow up with them

[2:55:36] you act in our workshop.

[2:55:38] >> Yeah, workshop next week. All right, I

[2:55:40] think

[2:55:40] >> If possible.

[2:55:41] >> I think we had somebody online that

[2:55:42] wanted to be on this is being recorded I

[2:55:44] believe.

[2:55:45] All right, they left so I don't know if

[2:55:47] I have 5 minutes. What about you

[2:55:48] Everett? You're good, okay.

6.16.26 Commission Meeting

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