[0:22] I'd like to open this family

[0:30] and we have commissioner Dean,

[0:32] Commissioner Hadler, Mr. Martinez,

[0:34] Commissioner Mans absent, Mr. Murie,

[0:37] Commissioner Winfield, myself

[0:39] with our county attorney Steven Sts,

[0:41] Commission Administrator Laura Piner,

[0:43] and our clerk.

[0:46] And with that, we'll stand for the

[0:47] pledge of

[0:47] >> allegiance.

[0:51] I pledge to the flag of the United

[0:54] States of America and to the republic

[0:57] for which it stands, one nation under

[1:00] God, indivisible, liberty and justice

[1:03] for all.

[1:10] Okay. So, we

[1:14] going to be starting out with a

[1:17] department report with your

[1:23] know all the way to that one. We know

[1:26] how much you love these.

[1:28] >> I thought I was sick. Well, so we had a

[1:31] maintenance department that's been

[1:33] postponed.

[1:35] You are second. You're actually our one

[1:37] and only

[1:39] postponed.

[1:51] » You're letting me

[1:52] >> Oh, I got to let you share your screen.

[1:58] And bear with me because you know I'm

[1:59] not technologically

[2:11] » you should be good.

[2:12] >> And then I just pick what

[2:19] I do.

[2:49] Where is it?

[2:51] Am

[2:56] I sharing?

[2:56] >> You are

[3:08] the last one, please.

[3:18] Um,

[3:20] good afternoon. And y'all know I'm

[3:22] Yordi. I'm the program director at the

[3:24] senior center. Welcome to September.

[3:27] is actually healthy aging

[3:29] month. So, I'm here at the right time.

[3:33] Okay. We started the new year with a new

[3:35] bus driver and a brand new CDL. Thank

[3:37] you guys very much. We really

[3:40] appreciate. Love her. Okay. beginning in

[3:43] 2025 and continuing into 2026, there

[3:46] seems to be more awareness of senior

[3:48] issues or aging adult issues. And in

[3:54] fall of last year, we had a listening

[3:57] session for Governor Cox's WISE

[3:59] initiative. The WISE Initiative focuses

[4:02] on the four pillars of aging, wealth,

[4:04] independence, security, and engagement.

[4:07] This is a 10-year plan for the whole

[4:09] state of Utah and the final draft is on

[4:12] their department of human services under

[4:17] division of aging services. Um, also

[4:20] Governor Cox came down to give one of

[4:22] our seniors a Marlene Zosi an award. Um,

[4:27] the county also did a needs assessment.

[4:30] Um, and it was well covered. a lot of um

[4:33] people did it and it brought up Grand

[4:35] County's issues, senior issues which

[4:38] include senior housing is a big thing

[4:40] and non-emergency medical transport.

[4:43] Karen, who's the head of our um council

[4:45] on aging, is a great advocate for our

[4:47] seniors and is on the board of this

[4:50] healthcare special district trying to

[4:52] get senior housing. Our whole council on

[4:54] aging is great and they take care not

[4:57] only of each other, the seniors in the

[4:59] senior center, but they also help some

[5:01] of the people outside of the senior

[5:02] center. I have met with the hospital

[5:05] administration to discuss non-emergency

[5:08] medical transport and a new pilot

[5:10] program for Medicare that they're doing,

[5:12] which is dealing with chronic pain.

[5:15] A couple weeks later, I got a email from

[5:21] an email. Yeah, it was a survey

[5:23] regarding transportation in rural Utah

[5:27] by UD do and Ursta

[5:29] and I also had a conversation with my

[5:32] other surveyors and it's nice to know

[5:33] that southern Utah is we're thinking of

[5:35] our needs down here. We've also

[5:37] collaborated with other partners this

[5:39] year not only with our seniors but our

[5:42] community as a whole. Um, the United

[5:44] Ways has a birth to hospice program that

[5:46] they're doing and the new mothers are

[5:48] going to start I think the 12th and

[5:51] they're going to do it for six weeks.

[5:53] That should be a great thing. The Utah

[5:55] Department of Justice Justice came down

[5:57] to add awareness for regarding scams

[6:00] that are targeted toward our seniors.

[6:03] Well, they're targeted everybody, but

[6:04] we're worried about the seniors. We've

[6:06] also became a station for American.

[6:12] Um, and we had an intern that was

[6:14] working with the hospital and she

[6:15] volunteered to do something for us. So,

[6:17] she did a really great job making our

[6:19] resource guide for seniors and it's on

[6:21] the county website.

[6:24] And we also have copies of this wonder.

[6:27] The Wellness Collective is offering a

[6:29] weekly chair yoga class. They also have

[6:31] a grant for creative aging from Utah

[6:34] Division of Arts and they will start

[6:36] it's a beginning class on pencil drawing

[6:39] and it will start sometime I think next

[6:40] month. And we also also have our other

[6:44] exercises that we do.

[6:48] Um we continue to offer

[6:51] um our coffee and tea conversation with

[6:53] some speakers who cover a wide variety

[6:55] of topics and organizations. Today we

[6:58] had Crystal Christy Russell from um the

[7:03] yeah aging services out of Salt Lake and

[7:05] she's over dementia and she did a

[7:08] program called dementia live which I've

[7:10] done which is really great and it just

[7:12] shows you that that in dementia so many

[7:15] other things other than your brain are

[7:17] affected like your senses the way you

[7:20] feel the way you hear the way you see

[7:23] all that is is incorporated among

[7:25] dementia. It's a really great program.

[7:30] Okay, on to some more of the fun stuff.

[7:34] Um,

[7:36] Chris decided this year not only to on

[7:38] Veterans Day, not only to um

[7:43] my words just went blank. We didn't

[7:45] honor just only the vets because we do

[7:47] still have vets in, you know, that

[7:49] served in Vietnam. And I think all of

[7:52] our World War II are gone. Korea is

[7:54] pretty gone, too. But we did it for the

[7:57] kids or for the mothers, the fathers,

[7:59] the wives of people that had served. So

[8:01] that it really went over good. Um I

[8:04] think our Christmas party this year was

[8:06] probably one of the best I've ever had.

[8:09] Um Alan Valerie Brown did some Christmas

[8:12] country music for during happy hour. And

[8:15] after dinner, the Mar Music Fest sent a

[8:18] great group in and it was really great.

[8:20] It was a lovely evening.

[8:25] We started the year off with our chili

[8:27] cookoff and this year we had 40 guests

[8:31] and 14 different chilies. It was a great

[8:33] success.

[8:35] Um we and then we had our Valentine's

[8:37] Day tea and um it was such a gracious

[8:41] fun thing. Uh we are really getting into

[8:44] the culture tea and we hope to have one

[8:45] for the autofest.

[8:47] Um we celebrated one of our seniors who is

[8:55] also part of history in Moab. She ran

[8:58] the

[9:00] I want to call it the greasy spoon.

[9:03] >> Okay. She ran that. She turned 100 years

[9:06] old this year and Mayor Joette and um

[9:10] Commissioner Winfield was there to help

[9:11] us celebrate her.

[9:14] Um we have enjoyed a couple of

[9:16] progressive dinners that you go to

[9:17] somebody's house and then yeah kind of

[9:19] go to several people's houses and work

[9:21] around. Um in June we were late but we

[9:25] celebrated um Cinco de Mayo with a salsa

[9:28] showdown.

[9:30] Um to make it more fun Chris decided we

[9:33] could add um tablescaping. Tablescaping

[9:36] is where you kind of fancy up your table

[9:37] and you for the holiday and who you are

[9:40] for your personality. It was a great

[9:42] time.

[9:45] Oh, I could tell you who won, but now I

[9:47] can't think. I can't remember who won

[9:49] this also.

[9:51] Um, to finish off July, we did a happy

[9:54] 20 250th birthday for America um with an

[9:58] ice cream social that was very popular.

[10:01] And then we watched the movie The

[10:03] Patriot,

[10:05] which I'll be honest, I forgot was rated

[10:06] R. Anyway,

[10:08] people didn't all say them. [laughter]

[10:13] Just don't think if it had cuss words, I

[10:16] would have thought. [laughter]

[10:19] Um, the Moab Senior Games does an annual

[10:22] um cookout slash cornhole tournament

[10:26] every year. It's next Thursday at um

[10:29] 4:30 at the pavilion. Um, it's always really fun to do that going

[10:35] up. But I think one of the most

[10:38] popular or fun activities we had was

[10:42] this who am I? And we had the seniors

[10:44] bring in pictures when of their youth,

[10:46] not baby pictures, but you know, kind of

[10:49] between three and 12. And then we had

[10:51] them up for a month and then you chose

[10:53] or you picked who was who. Somebody got,

[10:56] you know, it was fun. I was bad at it,

[10:59] but it was fun.

[11:01] Um we also volunteered to have the

[11:05] democracy phone booth on what voices and

[11:09] boy voices and votes and each of the

[11:11] seniors you could um record how

[11:14] democracy affected you.

[11:17] Oh, I forgot to mention our senior tree

[11:19] was a great success this year. We seem

[11:20] to be getting more seniors with more

[11:22] needs and yet we seem to be getting more

[11:25] um people that want to help.

[11:30] And after years of card games, which we

[11:32] still play, but Mexican trained dominoes

[11:34] came to the center. They're very serious

[11:37] about it. Okay, so am I. But anyway, um

[11:40] but we also have a new group that plays

[11:42] fa once a week and we still have the

[11:44] card games.

[11:46] We were once again privileged to have um a great variety of ma musicians

[11:53] volunteer their time and talents to this

[11:56] center. The Mo Music Fest for the last

[11:58] couple of years has comped somewhere

[12:00] between 20 and 40 tickets to several of

[12:03] the concerts they have. We take a bus

[12:05] up, but it's always it's a wonderful

[12:07] thing that they do that. And we also are

[12:10] part of

[12:12] the modern music fest winter load

[12:15] movement and when Acropolis, the only

[12:17] Grammyinning Reed Quintet,

[12:20] entertained us for lunch. The Alzas came

[12:23] down from Roosevelt, Utah. know they

[12:26] came from Delta, Utah. And we had a

[12:28] fiddle group called the Ginger Snaps

[12:30] from Roosevelt. And then we also have

[12:33] our great ginger flar that plays two or

[12:34] three days a week.

[12:38] Going forward,

[12:41] um [clears throat] we hope to continue

[12:42] working closely with other agency on our

[12:45] adult aging needs with more senior

[12:48] housing, transportation, elder abuse,

[12:50] targeted scams, and of course, food and

[12:52] fun.

[12:54] I feel like we've reached a good place

[12:55] at the senior center. The building is

[12:57] getting utilized more with rentals,

[12:59] meetings, exercises, activities, crafts,

[13:02] painting classes, and movement classes.

[13:04] We are very supportive of a grief brief

[13:07] support group that meets twice a month

[13:09] and also a dementia care support group

[13:11] that meets twice a month as well as a

[13:14] coat guild sorority and um the UFO, Utah

[13:19] Federation of Pontology. um they started

[13:22] out with like four or five people. Now

[13:23] they have 40 down the dance floor. So

[13:25] we're really excited about lead for

[13:27] that. And going through all the pictures

[13:29] last year, it hit me that we really do

[13:31] have some fun activities at the senior

[13:33] center and I am so privileged to be a

[13:35] part of this and thank you. And if you

[13:37] have any questions,

[13:40] >> thank you.

[13:41] for all the work you do.

[13:43] >> Thank you.

[13:48] » I have one question. I have one

[13:50] question. How is the new bus, the van

[13:53] that we purchased, is that working out

[13:55] well for you?

[13:56] >> The van works. She really likes the van.

[13:58] Um, if it drives good, I think the

[14:01] seniors enjoy it. She's a little picky

[14:04] about who gets in the front seat because

[14:05] it's, you know, you need your

[14:08] less mobile people in the front, but um,

[14:11] it it they seem to enjoy it. It works

[14:13] really good. We've kind of been over

[14:15] full a couple of days where we had to

[14:17] make two turns and we're considering

[14:19] there are just some people that can't

[14:21] get into the bus that can get into the

[14:24] van because the bus has steep steps and

[14:26] the the van just has a raft. So

[14:29] >> nice.

[14:29] >> But if we get more people, people will

[14:30] of course move to the van or the bus.

[14:33] >> This work great. Thank you very much.

[14:35] >> Glass.

[14:38] » All right. So, we have postponed our

[14:42] other report which is Gran County

[14:44] Building Department. We've also

[14:46] postponed our public hearing.

[14:50] We should have postponed this meeting.

[14:53] It was too late. Um, anyways, next is

[14:56] our general business action items and

[14:59] discussions.

[15:01] So, commission member disclosures and

[15:03] future considerations. Mike

[15:04] >> Works for the sheriff's department.

[15:08] >> Okay. Anything else?

[15:10] >> Number three is the approval of the

[15:12] consent agenda items.

[15:14] >> Madam Chair,

[15:15] >> yes.

[15:16] >> Could I pull item E, please? That is the

[15:19] outdoor recreation initiative grant

[15:20] application for Mud Springs phase 2.1.

[15:23] >> Yeah, we'll pull that and we'll just

[15:24] take it at the end of the Well, we'll

[15:26] probably since Mattiey's here.

[15:29] Maddie and Cody, who should go first?

[15:32] We'll put it we'll probably we'll just

[15:33] move right after the consent agenda.

[15:35] >> Thank you. Um A is the approval of

[15:38] meetings minutes for July 7th, 21st,

[15:41] 27th, and August 4th and 18th. B is the

[15:44] ratification of payment of bills. The

[15:46] total bills were $1,674,89.81.

[15:51] Total payroll of $280,5769

[15:56] with a total bills and payroll of

[15:58] $1,954,666.50.

[16:05] C is a ratification of cooperative

[16:08] forest road agreement. It's an annual

[16:10] agreement. No funds required. D

[16:12] ratification of signature on state

[16:14] homeland security program award

[16:24] and operation of a motorized trail crew.

[16:28] And that was just a change. We've

[16:30] already signed that once, didn't we? So

[16:31] there's a change on that G. Amendment to

[16:33] USU contract each position backfield

[16:36] requests of the Crown County Sheriff's

[16:38] Office patrol deputy dispatcher and

[16:41] jailer corrections position and also the

[16:44] roads department operator and it said

[16:46] one in the agenda but it's actually a

[16:48] two type two so that was just a type

[16:54] » motion to approve consent as presented.

[16:58] >> All right, Mike. So all in favor

[17:01] and that passes six up so all right

[17:04] let's go ahead and move to item E

[17:08] which is the outdoor recreation

[17:10] initiative grant application for mud

[17:12] springs. Yeah Maddie come on. Okay

[17:19] so um just a quick overview. So the OI

[17:22] grant the minimum request that you can

[17:25] qualify for this grant is a million

[17:26] dollars. Um it's a fall application

[17:29] period and we have gotten a previous OI

[17:32] grant for the Mud Springs project. We're

[17:34] calling it phase 2A um which we

[17:37] originally had awarded for um a second

[17:40] phase of trail development out of Mud

[17:42] Springs, but then because of those

[17:43] issues uh with safety turning off the

[17:46] highway, those funds were um shifted

[17:49] over manage that issue. So, we want to

[17:52] reapply to ORI this year for now we're

[17:55] calling 2B um which is 11 miles of

[17:59] additional trails in the system as well

[18:01] as a trail head adjacent um skill

[18:04] development area.

[18:07] And so my request is there's no match

[18:10] that's required for this grant program.

[18:13] However, um it shows community buyin uh

[18:17] commitment and then also it makes it

[18:18] much more competitive. So, the grant

[18:20] administrator

[18:22] um he recommended if we're able 20%

[18:25] match and then I think probably the

[18:27] lowest we could go would be like a 10%

[18:29] match. I think anything less than that

[18:31] is going to make us look like we're not

[18:33] um committed to this project because

[18:34] we're asking for about 1.1 million. So

[18:37] 10% would be 60,000 and then I would say

[18:41] anywhere between 60,000 and 180,000

[18:43] would be make us competitive

[18:46] >> and that's because we have inind right

[18:48] >> and then yes we also have in kind. So,

[18:50] we're using um a percentage of my salary

[18:54] for like uh the project management and

[18:56] then also volunteer labor, which um

[19:00] forget what I did exactly for here, but

[19:02] last season we had $20,000

[19:05] value for um volunteer for part one of

[19:10] phase one construction. So, I feel

[19:12] pretty confident um

[19:15] with that.

[19:17] >> Um I make a motion. I I'd move to

[19:19] approve this application for grant

[19:20] funding from Mud Springs Trail System

[19:22] Phase 2B and commit a cash match for

[19:25] this project in the amount of $60,000 to

[19:28] be taken from TRT mitigation, which

[19:31] trails is an approved um uh approved uh

[19:37] funding uh prospect

[19:41] and I would speak also to that.

[19:44] >> Okay. [clears throat] And that's also

[19:45] 2027 budget.

[19:46] >> 2027 budget of course. Yes. Looking at

[19:48] that. So, I think the I think Mud

[19:50] Springs has already been a huge success.

[19:52] Um, it's it's bringing people in. I've

[19:55] been down there a couple times and

[19:56] seeing lots of people from other

[19:57] counties uh coming down mostly to to

[20:00] pre-ride the Nike course in light of the

[20:02] two Nika races that are coming up, but

[20:04] it's also getting a lot of traction

[20:05] online and likely mountain bike forums

[20:07] and stuff. People really like it. Also,

[20:09] I know locals really enjoy uh springs

[20:12] because it's it's different than a lot

[20:13] of the riding around here. Um, and uh,

[20:17] the reason I'm I'm doing 60,000 I I I

[20:20] think this is I mean it's a million-

[20:22] dollar grant, so it's going to bring a

[20:23] lot of money into the county. It's going

[20:24] to uh improve

[20:27] um the trail system. 11 more miles of

[20:30] kind of unique and uh featured downhill

[20:32] trails are going to be uh different.

[20:35] It's they're going to fit into the kind

[20:37] of the Moab quiver of of trails very

[20:40] nicely and present uh kind of a a

[20:43] different option for riders coming to

[20:45] town. Um I I would love to go more than

[20:50] that, but I think that's probably the

[20:52] most that I'd feel comfortable

[20:53] committing out of our out of next year's

[20:57] budget for this. And I appreciate the

[21:00] inind. So that's that's why I'm uh

[21:04] making the motion to to

[21:07] >> Did you second that bill? You put your

[21:09] hand up. You seconding it or

[21:11] >> um I'm glad to second it. I want to I

[21:13] want a discussion.

[21:14] >> Okay. [clears throat] So you're second

[21:15] and yeah, we need a second.

[21:16] >> That's totally my bad.

[21:21] » So Bill second and then I'll let him

[21:23] speak and then we'll go to Trish then to

[21:25] >> um couple of questions. Are we

[21:27] comfortable that this can come out of

[21:29] mitigation? And if so, why has it not

[21:32] gone before MTAB?

[21:36] » I don't know why it hasn't gone before

[21:37] MTA.

[21:37] >> Should we then, my question would be, do

[21:40] a substitute motion and postpone this?

[21:42] >> I believe the grant has to be approved

[21:44] by September 15th. So, it's it's timely.

[21:48] We don't have another commission meeting

[21:49] before then. Um,

[21:53] >> call a special meeting of the MTAP

[21:55] board. I mean,

[22:00] I I suppose we could I I

[22:02] >> the MAP does meet on the ETH. That's the

[22:04] next INCAB board meeting is the ETH.

[22:06] >> And then we'd have to Can we

[22:09] >> ratify it,

[22:11] >> right? Ratify it like like pass it um

[22:15] with the stipulation that it is

[22:19] uh that it goes before the MTA board. I

[22:22] guess

[22:22] >> I'd be more comfortable with it.

[22:26] you're going to just amend your motion.

[22:28] >> And do we feel comfortable that this

[22:30] isn't an authorized use out of MI

[22:33] mitigation funds?

[22:35] >> I'm comfortable with it. I think I think

[22:36] mitigation clearly states that this is one of the uses for for

[22:39] mitigation.

[22:44] » Yeah.

[22:46] Um

[22:50] can you tell me a little bit about what

[22:52] is San Juan's involvement in this

[22:55] system? So just so I have background and

[22:57] then if they're if they are going to be

[22:59] involved with this specific grant.

[23:01] >> Yeah. So they've been involved in the

[23:03] past. They gave $40,000 to jump start

[23:06] the project. So that paid for my time

[23:08] and Tyson sees time to do the initial

[23:11] like trail design and project

[23:12] development. Um, for this phase, I don't

[23:17] think we are asking them for a match. We

[23:20] do have a few other kind of balls in the

[23:22] air. Um, there's some interested

[23:25] parties, but I haven't don't have

[23:26] anything locked in yet. Um, so right

[23:29] now, um, you know, they've been very

[23:31] involved in the phase 2A. Uh, but for

[23:34] the phase 2B, I think, um, Grand County

[23:37] is kind of the point manager for the the

[23:40] trail design and construction. But do

[23:43] they know that you're you're applying

[23:44] for this to I believe Lisa has

[23:47] >> okay contact about a letter of support.

[23:53] » Did you want to clarify?

[23:54] >> Yeah, I'll just clarify here from the

[23:56] HP456 was so there's 3A um expenditures

[24:01] which is tourism, recreation, film

[24:03] production and convention that's

[24:05] establishing and promoting that. Um and

[24:07] then there are the um 3B expenditures

[24:11] and those are conventions, exhibit

[24:12] halls, visitor information centers,

[24:14] museums, sports, recreation facilities

[24:18] including practice fields, stadiums,

[24:20] arenas, and trails. So I think that this

[24:22] is where we were talking that it would

[24:23] fit in under um under a 3B,

[24:26] >> right?

[24:27] >> Um right there. and and and I don't know

[24:29] if we should actually start calling them

[24:31] 3B and 3A rather than mitigation because

[24:35] mitigation actually under the new

[24:37] legislation has a different meaning

[24:39] which is your emergency services and so

[24:41] I don't know just to maybe clarify that

[24:43] into the future to to say that you know

[24:46] a 3B expenditure it's just

[24:48] >> it's it's for these allowable

[24:50] expenditures as opposed to the

[24:52] mitigation which is listed in there as

[24:55] basically your emergency services

[24:58] Mike,

[24:59] >> I know it's at the end of the valley and

[25:00] it is in San Juan County. It's going to

[25:02] affect Moab. We all know that it's it's

[25:05] within our valley. [clears throat]

[25:08] Where do we need to

[25:10] uh path together where our recreation

[25:12] special service district can actually

[25:14] help in funding even if it's over the

[25:16] San Juan County line? Like what do we

[25:19] have to do? And it's kind of pointed at

[25:21] Stephen on this one. We're gonna have to

[25:23] figure that out because

[25:26] yes, there's an imaginary line out

[25:27] there, but that's in Moab. I mean,

[25:30] >> we do have

[25:30] >> that's that's a hard push.

[25:32] >> Um for for the department, for the GCAT

[25:35] department, we do have an interlocal

[25:36] agreement in place with San County that

[25:39] specifically calls out um like that

[25:41] section that northern section of San

[25:43] County with Mud Springs and South

[25:45] Mountains.

[25:46] >> Yeah. And I I'm just looking for more

[25:48] help out there. Yeah. Uh the recreation

[25:50] special service district actually is in

[25:51] the small funding surplus which is a

[25:53] great thing but this is could have been

[25:55] one of the asks we could have asked from that that special service district

[26:01] also but for being in San like

[26:05] >> 2,000 ft over the the border

[26:09] >> seeing if we could

[26:11] >> I'd have to pull their

[26:15] >> future problem to figure out but it's

[26:16] also another source I I want to figure

[26:18] that so we could actually uh get help

[26:20] there because it's in Moab. We know

[26:22] that.

[26:26] » Yeah. And I did reach out to

[26:28] Commissioner M in San County. They have

[26:30] a meeting today and I think it was too

[26:31] late for them this week, but if they are

[26:34] able to, we could add that to the grant.

[26:37] So,

[26:39] [laughter]

[26:40] >> I think we would add that additional on

[26:42] top of what we have. But

[26:44] >> um I'll add just a few comments. I'm

[26:47] expand on what Mattie said and then

[26:48] answer Trish a little bit, but the

[26:53] reason for the access into Mud Springs

[26:56] is not just the safety to fix that. It

[26:59] was about $3.5 million for UD do to put

[27:02] that turn in there if they were to do it

[27:04] at that point. And so we moved down and

[27:07] agreed that it would be better coming

[27:08] off of the Pack Creek cut off. And when

[27:11] they did that, they then paid for the

[27:14] majority of the road coming into Mud

[27:16] Springs. And then San Juan County and

[27:19] Gran County have mostly Cody, but some

[27:23] Todd I hope I'm getting his right ad

[27:27] also have put in a ton of inind effort

[27:30] for the count for both counties on not

[27:32] just the parking lots, but the road up

[27:34] around and I don't think Todd's even

[27:37] done yet. the road that goes up where

[27:38] they start the race and they go up

[27:40] around the corner and come back down.

[27:42] So,

[27:43] >> great.

[27:44] >> Yeah, I believe the last time I was out

[27:46] there that they had just started working

[27:48] on it. So, there's a lot that both

[27:50] counties are doing out there that's

[27:53] inind and I know that Cody's crews have

[27:56] spent a lot of time out there and last

[27:58] time I was out there, the parking lots

[27:59] are looking awesome.

[28:01] >> So, that that's a big portion the

[28:04] parking lots are of where that money

[28:06] went.

[28:07] was to be able to host all the people

[28:09] when we got them in here. So,

[28:11] >> sure.

[28:12] >> Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's definitely great work. I've been

[28:16] out there frequently and and it's it's

[28:18] been an actually just a awesome

[28:20] collaboration between all the entities

[28:22] BLM, U DOT, San Juan, Grant, everybody.

[28:26] >> Agreed.

[28:27] >> Right. Yeah. Just to clarify outside of

[28:29] it's not really point of order. Um so

[28:32] when we are talking about promotion if

[28:34] we speak about it as a 3A expense and we

[28:36] speak about the other the rest of the

[28:38] funding and a 3B expense. Is that what

[28:40] you're recommending Brian?

[28:41] >> Yeah clarify.

[28:43] >> Yeah just clarifying. I just we we use

[28:45] the term mitigation and then we also um

[28:48] use it as these allowable expenses and

[28:50] there is there is some different uh um

[28:53] there's a couple of different things

[28:55] inside that legislation that deals with

[28:56] the mitigation especially as we're

[28:58] looking for that outdoor recreation

[29:00] mitigation grant and how those funds can

[29:02] be used. So there's just there's just

[29:04] different language and I just thought it

[29:05] would be an opportunity to say that you

[29:07] know the 3A basically deals with all

[29:09] things promotion and then 3B is your

[29:12] allowable expenses and then mitigation

[29:15] is actually essential services

[29:17] >> but it's included in that same pot of

[29:19] money that 3B is.

[29:20] >> Yeah. So yeah. Oh crap.

[29:53] or not. The proper procedure, I think,

[29:54] is to bring it in front of the MTA

[29:56] board. I would uh vote for it either

[29:59] way. I would hope that they would

[30:01] approve of this. Um, so as far as making

[30:05] a motion goes, because this grant is

[30:08] super timely and uh, Matt, you have to

[30:10] get it in for the next commission

[30:11] meeting. I guess I would amend my amend

[30:15] my motion to

[30:18] um take the uh move to approve the

[30:21] application [clears throat] for grant

[30:23] funding for Mud Springs Trail System

[30:24] phase 2B and to commit a cash match for

[30:27] this project in the amount of $60,000 to

[30:29] come from uh section 3B of HB 456 TRT

[30:35] legislation. Um and

[30:39] uh to authorize the chair to sign the

[30:45] application

[30:46] after it has been reviewed by the MTAB

[30:51] board at their U September meeting. Does

[30:53] that work?

[30:55] >> Yeah.

[30:55] >> Works me on that again. Okay. Okay. Any

[30:59] more discussion? All in favor?

[31:02] All right. That passes six. Thank you.

[31:04] Thanks a lot.

[31:06] And we'll move on to number four. So

[31:09] Spanish Valley Drive Mill and Phil Bean

[31:13] to the county line which is the shoulder

[31:14] w project.

[31:26] » All right. Well, first off, thank you

[31:29] for your guys' service and having me

[31:31] sneak in here tonight on a short night

[31:34] hopefully.

[31:36] Um, so I know there wasn't a lot of

[31:39] information in the packet. I am still in

[31:42] the process of

[31:45] [clears throat]

[31:46] bids for this project. Um,

[31:48] transportation special service district

[31:50] approached me about a week and a half

[31:52] ago with some funding in their budget

[31:54] that they want to put down on this

[31:58] connectivity, for lack of a better word,

[32:00] shoulder widening project tying in

[32:02] basically the same project that we did

[32:03] from the four-way stop 2 just past the

[32:05] Beaman Bridge. This will connect onto

[32:08] there and then go out to the Grand Sanan

[32:10] County line with the same 4ft shoulders

[32:14] 32 foot wide

[32:16] lane. So, um I think it's a great way to

[32:19] do it. um

[32:22] transportation special service in our

[32:24] they call a special meeting and they

[32:26] have the funding to pretty much fund

[32:28] this. So my ask of this 300,000

[32:30] contingent on transportation special

[32:32] service isn't it doesn't really apply

[32:34] anymore. What I would like to do is just

[32:37] as far as the background the road and

[32:39] transportation special service district

[32:41] have been taking the initiatives to

[32:43] widen the shoulders on the main corridor

[32:45] of Spanish Valley Drive in Spanish. Um

[32:47] this initiative is to create a safe path

[32:49] between traffic and multi-use

[32:51] pedestrian, bicycle, horseback and other

[32:53] uses in grad and San Juan County. Um

[32:56] these improvements began in two in 2025

[32:58] with the four-way stop to be

[33:00] improvement. The project continues to

[33:02] promote connectivity and it that is the

[33:04] vision of the transportation or master

[33:06] plan. The scope of this project will

[33:08] also incorporate a better channel for

[33:10] storm drainage along the Spanish trail

[33:11] road protecting not only the roadway but

[33:14] the via power utility um where water has

[33:16] been undermining the utility pole and

[33:18] powerway. So, not only are we going to

[33:20] run out to the um county line, but we're

[33:23] also going to do the north side of

[33:25] Spanish Trail with a 4 foot wide

[33:27] shoulder, which will tie that whole road

[33:29] in. And then we are going to try to push

[33:31] potentially maybe to the golf course for

[33:34] um golf carts, not a golf ball lane, but

[33:38] it will be a lighter shoulder if the

[33:40] funding is allotted for this. Um, what

[33:43] the road departments ask out of my 35,

[33:47] which I called it out in a 2026 or 2020,

[33:50] yeah, 2027, is it's a little bit vague,

[33:53] but it does say overlay work working

[33:55] with transportation special service

[33:57] district for half a million dollars. It

[33:59] wasn't in our wheelhouse to do that with

[34:01] the road department this year. Um,

[34:03] transportation special services came

[34:04] through with the funding. And so what my

[34:07] ask is is $100,000 from the same 35

[34:12] capital improvement um fund for

[34:15] basically just the striking and final

[34:18] work. Anything that the paving crew and

[34:20] transportation special service district

[34:22] can't cover gives us a little bit of a

[34:24] contingency just to make sure that that

[34:26] entirety of the plan will be taken this

[34:29] year.

[34:31] >> Bill, did you

[34:32] >> Sure. So, I'll make the motion, but I

[34:34] want to just clarify. So 300,000 from

[34:37] the special service district and a h

[34:39] 100,000 from fund 35.

[34:41] >> So the special service district came up

[34:42] with 750,000.

[34:45] >> Okay. So how how much of it then?

[34:50] >> They're going to fund the whole project.

[34:51] >> Oh, they are. So we don't need any out

[34:53] here.

[34:54] >> The only thing I'm asking

[34:55] >> just make the motion.

[34:56] >> Yeah. The I am asking for 100,000 to be

[34:59] set aside as contingent because I do

[35:01] need to stripe it. Sure. I told them if

[35:03] they do the whole overlay and shoulder

[35:04] widening that I would stripe it and I'll

[35:06] go back in and do the finish work for

[35:08] driveways.

[35:09] >> Does our motion need to cover that?

[35:12] >> It's

[35:14] Well, I call that a half a million in my

[35:17] budget, but Gabe, do you have any I mean

[35:22] I I it's in the budget.

[35:23] >> I don't mind make I'll add it to the

[35:25] motion.

[35:25] >> Yeah, it doesn't hurt. I move to approve

[35:27] the addition of the Spanish Valley Drive

[35:29] mill and fill shoulder widening project

[35:31] from Bean Lane to Grand San Juan County

[35:34] line to the roads long range capital

[35:37] plan for 2026 as funds are available to

[35:41] complete the project ahead of schedule

[35:44] with 100,000 set aside for striping and

[35:50] correct out of um yeah's budget. Did you

[35:53] drive work?

[35:54] >> Mike second.

[35:55] >> Second and a comment.

[35:57] >> Thanks.

[35:57] >> Uh transportation special service

[35:59] district uh held a special meeting. Uh

[36:04] it was uh called for held and unanimous

[36:07] decision to transfer the money. Uh so we

[36:11] have the backing of the entire special

[36:13] service district.

[36:16] >> I have Oh, go ahead. I have a question.

[36:19] >> Yeah. No, this is great work. Thank you,

[36:20] Cody, for getting that done.

[36:21] >> Yeah. next to the transportation special

[36:23] service district too. It's their board

[36:24] and they I appreciate them spending the

[36:26] money on our payment.

[36:28] >> Please pass that that thanks along for

[36:29] me then. Um as well and then just to

[36:31] clarify so 135 is based off of roads,

[36:33] right? Those are roads funds.

[36:34] >> Correct. That's my road capital

[36:37] approved.

[36:38] >> Thank you so much. Appreciate that

[36:41] >> Yeah. Thanks for this too. I'm I'm

[36:43] stoked about it as well. Um the the

[36:45] shoulder widening part from the fourway

[36:48] down to Bean so far has been awesome for cyclists, pedestrians along that

[36:54] road. Um I ride that section frequently

[36:56] and it's made a huge difference and I

[36:58] expect it to make a great difference

[37:00] down to the county line, too.

[37:01] >> Yeah, it's it's a great multi-use. I

[37:02] appreciate. And then one question, how

[37:04] would this with the future and and we

[37:06] haven't talked about going south of Bean

[37:08] for the uh Spanish Valley multi-use

[37:10] pathway, but but how would this

[37:12] potentially affect that future pathway?

[37:16] >> So, I don't think it's going to do

[37:17] anything but be advantageous for that

[37:19] future buildout. Um we had a safe

[37:22] streets for all open house at grand last

[37:25] night and if you look at the way that

[37:27] pathway falls in um whether it's

[37:29] separated or whether it fits right

[37:31] against that I think it's I mean all

[37:33] that's going to do is just provide a

[37:35] >> a wider shoulder with the multi-use and

[37:38] then the ability to potentially kick

[37:39] that extra six or seven feet of path on

[37:42] there where it could be connected to

[37:43] that you know as an easier monetary way

[37:46] to bite it off

[37:47] >> right

[37:48] >> or you know with future planning and

[37:49] build out it still be that separated

[37:52] path that everyone's kind of the Yeah.

[37:54] the big dream.

[37:55] >> Absolutely. Perfect. Cody,

[37:56] [clears throat] thank you.

[37:57] >> Yeah. Mike,

[37:59] >> uh reiterate what Chalk said. I mean,

[38:02] great job. Four-way stop out to Bean.

[38:04] I'll go out of my way to travel down

[38:05] that road and I know a lot of other

[38:07] people do.

[38:08] >> Uh it's nice and it's going to be

[38:10] impeccable from that point out to the

[38:12] county line. Uh, I mean, as always, I

[38:15] want to reach out to my San Juan County

[38:17] uh counterparts and we will talk about

[38:19] further out towards Mud Springs, but it

[38:22] it's it's a joy to drive on as a car

[38:24] guy. Thank you.

[38:25] >> Yeah. Well, I appreciate the support

[38:27] from the connectivity because that's

[38:28] really what our transportation master

[38:30] plan calls out for future build. So,

[38:33] >> with some wider shoulders and we can

[38:35] build from there.

[38:36] >> Go ahead. I had a question and and a

[38:39] comment along some of Mike's lines, but

[38:41] um so does this now connect us all the

[38:44] way down to a Royo after this project is

[38:47] completed or where does where are we at

[38:50] in [clears throat] that little section

[38:51] where we don't have our path yet, right?

[38:53] >> Yeah. So, so just a little bit of

[38:55] clarification what I did when I first

[38:57] bit this off because I knew it was going

[38:59] to be a big ask. I mean, you'd be coming

[39:01] in here with a $2 million ask. um

[39:05] working with the transportation special

[39:07] service district and being able to share

[39:08] funding that the roads kind of had for

[39:10] some of this and transportation, we were

[39:12] able to bite off a two-mile chunk of it.

[39:15] Um what it did is we kind of did that

[39:17] right in the heart of the valley too to

[39:19] where we could go in any direction and

[39:20] be able to tie onto that build that we

[39:23] did.

[39:24] What this allows us to do now is add on

[39:26] to the beam and go to the county line

[39:28] which is a mile. We can bite it off.

[39:30] Transportation Special Service District

[39:32] had enough funds that they're going to

[39:33] be able to cover this. We'll come in and

[39:35] stripe it and clean it up. That'll

[39:36] connect clear from the county line to

[39:38] the four-way stop

[39:40] in this. We're also going to go from the

[39:42] Branding Iron Restaurant on the north

[39:44] side to for sure the roundabout on the

[39:45] north side, which widens that Spanish

[39:48] Trail corridor with those, you know,

[39:50] it's not going to be a full overlay, but

[39:51] it will be a wider shoulder on each

[39:52] side, which adds that night visibility,

[39:54] safety, the people walking, the

[39:56] multi-use bicycles, whatever it is on

[39:58] the shoulder. Um, next year with this

[40:01] TAP grant, it's it's a different

[40:03] section, but there's another 083 miles

[40:05] that goes on down to resource from the

[40:07] four-way stop.

[40:08] >> We were approved with a tap a $300,000

[40:10] TAP grant, and then the road department

[40:12] has funds aotted in the 2027 budget if

[40:14] it's approved for $450,000, which makes

[40:17] that $750,000

[40:19] shoulder widening and overlay

[40:23] a

[40:24] pretty big reality that's going to

[40:26] happen next year. So, by the end of

[40:28] 2027, if the multi-use path kicks in,

[40:31] there there's real potential in the next

[40:33] two years to have a connectivity for Mil

[40:35] Creek to the county line with a white

[40:37] shoulder potential bike path.

[40:40] >> I mean, it's it's uh it's coming

[40:41] together.

[40:42] >> It's coming together.

[40:43] >> Good. And then back to Mike's comments

[40:45] about commissioners in San Juan County,

[40:48] but really maybe some of the

[40:49] conversation could start with Todd at

[40:51] the road department and see what he has

[40:54] available to extend that on out. I know

[40:57] that maybe to the clinic or somewhere

[40:59] out there. There's a lot of homes that

[41:01] come off of what is it? Mount Peele and

[41:04] the next one out Coronado and stuff out

[41:06] there. It would be nice to get Kenton

[41:08] activity all the way to that clinic

[41:11] basically.

[41:12] >> Yeah. And I know they they've been doing

[41:13] some road improvement out there.

[41:16] >> It's it's nice to see the improvements

[41:19] happening on our pavement in the valley

[41:20] for sure. But

[41:21] >> I'm I'm pretty candid with TJ. Good. I

[41:25] will uh I'll I'll try to push him in the

[41:27] right direction. I know Commissioner

[41:28] Mccertie will too.

[41:30] >> Yeah.

[41:32] >> All right. Thank you. Thanks for all

[41:34] your hard work.

[41:34] >> No, thank you.

[41:35] >> And we just call for a vote here. Um all

[41:38] in favor

[41:40] 6. Thank you.

[41:42] Have a good night.

[41:44] >> Yeah, you guys, too.

[41:45] >> All right, moving on to number five,

[41:46] which is the Monument Replacement and

[41:48] Restoration Committee Grant Award. And

[41:51] this was a grant that came in. I signed

[41:54] it in June July and it was been awarded

[42:00] it and we just need to receive this

[42:02] grant for $24,836.80.

[42:06] Mike,

[42:08] >> uh, as soon as it pulls up here, I move

[42:10] to accept the the contract for monument

[42:13] replacement and restoration grant. So,

[42:17] >> any more discussion?

[42:19] I guess I just need Yeah, maybe just to

[42:22] understand a little bit more. So this is

[42:23] for the surveyor. So I would assume then this will

[42:28] just

[42:30] backfill his salary or can you guys give

[42:33] me a little bit more?

[42:35] >> I've had some discussions with

[42:38] uh our admin and attorney and surveyor

[42:41] and recorder. um you know if this was a

[42:46] grant that came to a department

[42:47] generally would just go in their in

[42:48] their budget right but this is different

[42:50] because it's an elected official and so

[42:54] this is outside what from what I

[42:56] understand is what this is something

[42:58] that's outside of his scope of work so I

[43:02] don't know how exactly we will handle

[43:05] this I think it's going to have more

[43:06] discussion as far as does this go into

[43:10] his budget I mean currently he just has

[43:12] a salary in budget and but no supplies

[43:17] and so he doesn't get gas money. So I

[43:21] don't I don't know how if it could

[43:23] possibly just go in his budget to pay

[43:25] for supplies and expenses.

[43:28] >> A couple a couple different ways to skin

[43:30] catap. Um so one option is if if any

[43:33] elected official is going to get an

[43:35] increase salary, we're going to have to

[43:36] go through the standard process uh

[43:38] public hearing notice in the newspaper

[43:42] etc. That's not what's proposed tonight.

[43:44] It's instead just accepting a grant. Um

[43:47] depending on we depending on how we look

[43:49] at the scope of work. If it's something

[43:50] that's beyond the surveyor's work, the

[43:52] commission could open and put it out for

[43:54] a bid. Uh create the opportunity for

[43:56] somebody to apply for that contract. If

[43:58] that's how we're looking at it, saying,

[43:59] "Hey, look, this isn't really within the

[44:01] scope of the surveyor." Well, then the

[44:02] obligation would fall to the county for

[44:04] the county to go out and contract and

[44:05] hire it. Um, it it was my intent when I

[44:08] talked to admin about this item that we

[44:10] come back and have additional follow-up

[44:12] conversation about how we want to

[44:13] structure this. If this is going to be

[44:16] something that the commission has an

[44:17] appetite to adjust the salary of the

[44:19] surveyor, that's a decision for the

[44:21] commission to make. Um, if it's going to

[44:23] be something that the commission is

[44:24] going to put out for a bid and we're

[44:25] saying it's outside the scope, that's a

[44:27] decision that the commission and admin

[44:28] would have to put out bid. If it falls

[44:30] within the scope of the surveyor and the

[44:33] commission is okay with him putting that

[44:35] out for a bid, that's another option.

[44:37] There a couple different options, couple

[44:38] different nuances. Okay. But we couldn't

[44:40] just increase the salary amount for any

[44:42] elected official. Like for example, the

[44:44] grant that I brought up from my office

[44:46] the other day, the 139, if if my office

[44:48] gets that, I don't get to pocket that.

[44:51] >> I assume it falls into my budget.

[44:53] >> But that and that raised a really good

[44:54] interesting question. When we get grants

[44:56] that come into the county, I don't know

[44:58] if we're going back and saying, "Hey,

[45:00] look, you have blessing to put it in

[45:01] this particular area. I think it just

[45:04] happens naturally when we do an amended

[45:05] budget at the end of the year." But

[45:07] that's one nuance that we have these

[45:09] grants that come in, if we accept them

[45:12] and receive them, how we go back through

[45:13] and and add it. And so for the surveyor

[45:16] for this one, I'm I think the

[45:17] understanding is we're going to accept

[45:18] this grant. We're going to have to have

[45:19] a follow-up conversation with the

[45:21] commission on how we deem going forward

[45:23] as appropriate. Right. Okay. Did you

[45:27] want to add anything to that, Gabe?

[45:29] Yeah. I mean, as long as Okay, great. As

[45:32] long as there's going to be a follow-up

[45:34] conversation because, you know, it gets

[45:35] into to me really muddy waters if we

[45:38] have

[45:38] >> whether it's elected or or employees

[45:40] starting to write grants and going,

[45:42] "Well, I'm just going to add this to my

[45:43] salary." That that's really that's a

[45:45] really

[45:45] >> and there's but I like the idea that it

[45:47] goes into his budget and if it's out of

[45:50] scope, maybe we put it out to bed or

[45:53] >> stock guards. We have disclosure

[45:55] requirements. There are things in my

[45:56] office. I can't hire my private practice

[45:58] to do any of my stuff. So, we we have

[46:00] some limitations on that. I think this

[46:02] is a good conversation to have. We've

[46:04] started having those conversations. I

[46:06] think the re one of the reasons why is

[46:07] this grant turnaround is pretty quick. I

[46:10] think we have to accept it like today.

[46:13] >> The other Go ahead, Chuck, and then I'll

[46:16] >> Yeah, just a as Stephen said, I think

[46:18] right now voting yes on this is simply

[46:20] accepting different that that's it. Is

[46:22] that correct, Stephen? That's that's how

[46:23] I read it. Again, I think there's

[46:25] multiple things that haven't been

[46:26] answered. Is it within the commission

[46:27] scope? Is it within the surveyor scope?

[46:29] I think we take a moment and look at

[46:30] that and follow.

[46:32] >> Sounds good. Okay. Thanks. Thank you.

[46:34] >> Yeah. When I spoke today, it's it needs

[46:36] to be turned back in tomorrow and then

[46:39] they whoever is going to be performing

[46:41] the work when you look at the grant and

[46:43] this was on our July 7th agenda. So, if

[46:45] you want to go back and look at the

[46:46] actual grant um so they have to we have

[46:51] to get it back. we accept it, then they

[46:53] need to go to a training September 9th,

[46:55] which is mandatory for anybody that's

[46:56] going to be executing this grant. So, he

[46:58] did say he would go to that September

[47:00] 9th regardless of it. Um, this is I know

[47:03] that they called around to some other

[47:06] counties that get this grant and kind of

[47:08] talk about how they did it in theirs.

[47:10] you know,

[47:12] every county is different and the setups

[47:14] are different, but it's um put these 15

[47:18] uh monument placements and they

[47:20] basically like if we let it fall through

[47:23] the cracks this year and not do it, we probably won't get it again and which

[47:28] is a good chunk of money. And these are

[47:30] some pretty important

[47:34] landmarks, I guess, you know, what we

[47:36] could say. And so I I think there's

[47:38] value in the conversation and moving

[47:40] through it quickly and that's why I have

[47:41] had quite a bit of discussion but I am

[47:44] too wonder. Okay.

[47:46] >> Okay. So um we had a motion to accept it

[47:50] in a second. Do we have any more more

[47:52] discussion?

[47:54] >> All in favor

[47:56] >> and that passes 6.

[47:58] >> Hey Mel, you got your meeting

[48:01] >> where it's the shortest meeting ever.

[48:02] No, not just that. We voted unanimously,

[48:05] right? When everything that's what you

[48:08] >> that one,

[48:09] >> huh?

[48:10] >> We unanimous that one.

[48:14] >> So, we have um

[48:17] a few more minutes. We could start with

[48:19] um public. I bet we can move into it.

[48:22] Depends on how many people that want to

[48:23] speak in the audience. Do we have any

[48:26] public comment tonight?

[48:30] No, we don't. Okay. Well, then we're

[48:31] going to keep on I'll at 5:' I'll I'll

[48:33] come back to that. We're just going to

[48:34] move along. And because we have so much

[48:36] free time tonight, I was going to open

[48:38] it up to the commissioners if anyone

[48:41] would like to share anything from their

[48:43] reports.

[48:46] » Go ahead, Mike.

[48:47] >> Uh as always, uh general cast invite to

[48:51] everyone around me

[48:54] annual convention is the 9th and 10th

[48:57] September. And um for those of those of

[49:01] the public that don't know when I say

[49:02] UAC, UAE is the Utah Association of

[49:06] Counties and I I wrote something down

[49:08] here. It's the uh annual uh convention

[49:12] is where statewide policy agendas and

[49:14] legislative priorities are set. I have

[49:18] loved and learned greatly from UAC and

[49:20] being part of several of the UAX policy

[49:22] steering committees. there are lower

[49:24] committees that actually decide

[49:27] compensation committee. We were just on

[49:29] one but uh I have loved being part of

[49:33] them uh and learning from them. Uh with

[49:36] that same tip of the hat I again ask

[49:39] everyone in attendance uh along with

[49:41] myself along with uh Mark Quinn Dana I

[49:45] have asked to travel to the UA

[49:47] convention. Uh I am not fully

[49:50] comfortable with having 28 other

[49:52] counties uh recommend what Grant County

[49:55] should do. Uh that's why we're there.

[49:58] That's why we're a part and we're a

[49:59] voting member is to actually put Grant

[50:01] County State in into UAC. It being one

[50:05] of the largest uh lobbying bodies uh

[50:07] within the Utah legislature. Um in that

[50:11] Grant County is not an island. Uh we're

[50:13] not just sitting here in the dark. uh

[50:15] state level policy changes uh directly

[50:18] hit our budgets. They directly hit our

[50:20] decisions down here and we need to

[50:22] remain part of the conversation as

[50:24] always and I welcome and ask my fellow

[50:29] commissioners to please attend with me.

[50:31] Uh I know everyone's busy but this this

[50:35] is very important and the public needs

[50:38] to know it's very important that we

[50:39] actually do make attendance.

[50:42] >> Okay. Thanks, Jock.

[50:45] >> Welcome. Uh, I attended the, uh, LEAPC

[50:47] meeting, which is the emergency

[50:48] management um, meeting, and I just want

[50:51] to give a huge shout out to to Kate

[50:53] Finley, who's our county admin, uh,

[50:54] emergency manager. She's been a just

[50:56] done a great job with um, forwarding

[50:59] every everything kind of emergency

[51:01] management in Grand County. When I first

[51:03] got elected, we didn't even have an

[51:04] emergency manager. We had those uh, we

[51:07] had that crazy fire my first year on and

[51:09] the floods the second year. to agree to

[51:11] that position in the sheriff's office,

[51:12] but Kate's just taken it above beyond.

[51:15] Um, at that meeting, the super well

[51:17] attended with with uh folks from the

[51:20] city, the county, the fire department,

[51:22] EMS, lots of other agencies, national

[51:24] parks, etc. Um and this this last one

[51:29] she arranged for a couple of really good

[51:30] presentations from county actually Cody

[51:34] and uh and the city too uh presenting um

[51:38] flood mitigation efforts in the

[51:41] all-American wash as well as the efforts

[51:43] to shore up uh Mil Creek through town.

[51:46] Those are those are great. There's some

[51:48] good discussion afterwards on both of

[51:49] those. So that was that was cool. And

[51:52] then the other one, Brian also attended

[51:54] the Arches bike access meeting. I think

[51:56] we're it's a really cool committee of a

[51:58] bunch of different people who are just

[51:59] interested in in furthering bike access

[52:01] into Arches. Uh finally talking about

[52:04] next steps, kind of low hanging fruit,

[52:06] what we're going to be working on. Um uh

[52:09] kind of a map of the plan and then

[52:11] working on things such as uh signage and

[52:14] uh shoulder and paint work, just just

[52:17] kind of easy stuff can improve bike

[52:20] access experience into arches. So both

[52:23] but those meetings were were cool and uh

[52:26] worth mentioning

[52:29] all the team and the paper too. Good. So

[52:31] thanks. Yeah

[52:33] la la la la la la la la la la la la la launch today. That's

[52:34] my update. I've been working on little bugs that we've been working out

[52:38] with that. So about to go out to the

[52:40] visitor center and take some pictures of

[52:42] it. But that's exciting for the county.

[52:45] And next week on the ETH will be the the

[52:48] grand opening

[52:51] kickoff kickoff.

[52:56] » All right. Any other comments? We have a

[52:58] report from our town attorney.

[53:00] >> I can just give a brief update. Um, we

[53:03] had a follow-up meeting with Chair

[53:04] Mccandless and the sheriff uh earlier

[53:07] this afternoon regarding the victim

[53:10] position and identifying good terms and

[53:12] good things that we can do moving

[53:13] forward for her uh shifting in field

[53:15] work. So, that's exciting. Later this

[53:17] month, I'll be at South Padre Island in

[53:21] Texas for the uh the Institute on a

[53:25] Coordinated Community Response to

[53:27] domestic violence. Um they fund that

[53:30] training. They fund the flight, RDM and

[53:33] hotel. That's a phenomenal uh training

[53:35] that they do. They were the com the

[53:37] entity that would come into the

[53:38] community and do trainings on

[53:39] strangulation. Uh there are additional

[53:43] good items that we're doing from

[53:44] followup from that and as well as the

[53:46] fall prosecutor training conference that

[53:48] I'll be attending uh later this month.

[53:52] Otherwise, we've got some jury trials

[53:54] coming up. Got one next week. And

[53:56] otherwise, all things are continuing as

[53:58] normal. That's good. Good wind surfing

[54:00] out on South Padre Island. Looks like a

[54:02] It's a fun place.

[54:05] >> Let's see doing that in a suit.

[54:10] » Mark, give me a wet suit. Are you

[54:13] >> just working on filling some key

[54:15] positions with the county? Um, so we're

[54:19] moving in with that and hopefully we'll

[54:22] have some replacements soon.

[54:26] >> Okay,

[54:26] >> give me that. All right, we got some.

[54:29] All right, come on up. We got to kill

[54:30] them. We got seven minutes.

[54:34] It's only five. Um, huge shout out to

[54:36] our office of tourism team and make and

[54:38] the people over there for getting the uh

[54:40] award at the ESCO for the number one new

[54:42] campaign. That was super cool, super

[54:44] exciting for them. Grateful for all the

[54:46] hard work that's gone into that. It's

[54:47] been

[54:49] took us what four months to select a

[54:51] marketing team and Nick to get on board

[54:54] and it's it's been a phenomenal amount

[54:56] of work. So I want huge congratulations

[54:57] to them. And then on a second note, we

[54:59] did have some pipe delivered for the

[55:01] Jackson Street project. So that is

[55:03] >> that moving and going that'll be in the

[55:05] ground um for the future consideration.

[55:07] We should at some point as permission

[55:09] discuss

[55:10] the sidewalk.

[55:13] >> Yes. So

[55:16] >> yes and we could have that. We are

[55:18] hopefully going to have another meeting

[55:20] with city. I know that Stout Quinn

[55:22] actually did for the safe streets for

[55:24] all. think come and present to both of

[55:25] us at the same time would be great. And

[55:27] so I know we're going to do a fall joint

[55:29] meeting with the city. So that would be

[55:31] a good time. And hopefully by then we

[55:32] might have discussion on this. I don't

[55:34] since that's what came up at our first

[55:36] joint meeting.

[55:38] >> Yeah. I think that I don't know. I had

[55:41] lunch with Kimley Horn yesterday and

[55:43] they suggested that that would be an

[55:44] effective way to present it was to have

[55:46] you know both the city and the county at

[55:47] the same meeting which is great. I don't

[55:50] know which day we want to meet as a

[55:52] food. and I kind of said I kind of

[55:55] pushed for our county commission date.

[55:56] But

[55:56] >> well, that is when the next one will be

[55:58] because you went to the city. So now

[55:59] county, but I I have to go to the mayor.

[56:02] >> Yeah. So I think they were thinking the

[56:03] Kimley Horn people were thinking one of

[56:05] those uh two meetings in October would

[56:07] be great.

[56:09] >> Okay.

[56:14] » Go ahead, Brian.

[56:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. just second what uh Quinn

[56:17] had said that um you know that campaign

[56:20] um that that Madden has put together was fantastic and to be involved with

[56:24] that and to see all the work that that

[56:26] team has done to try to lift up tourism

[56:29] here was it was amazing. Uh Mick sent us

[56:31] a little video of uh um when the award

[56:33] was presented there was about a thousand

[56:35] people in the audience just to give you

[56:37] an idea of the number of people that had

[56:39] applied for this award right there. and

[56:41] you know to have that campaign selected

[56:43] as the number one campaign was it was

[56:46] awesome. So they've done a lot of work

[56:47] and really a great big shout out to

[56:49] those guys. Um other little things is on

[56:52] the 24th we attend uh uh myself and

[56:55] commissioner Winfield attended the

[56:56] planned parentship

[56:58] meeting um which is the uh uh was the

[57:01] launching of the baby and you and then

[57:03] also some uh uh early work on our

[57:06] economic mobility plan um which will be

[57:08] drafting a charter and then architecting

[57:11] the work plan um that will kind of pair

[57:13] along with the reach bill that came out

[57:15] which was the SB 165. So, a lot of great

[57:19] work is starting there. I think that

[57:20] we're going to see see some neat things

[57:22] coming from that. Um, I also attended

[57:27] um a couple of uh policy steering

[57:29] committees that Mike mentioned. Um, one

[57:32] that I would bring out as well is the uh

[57:34] community development right now. There

[57:36] is some legislation coming in on land

[57:38] use code updates. Um, and on that right

[57:41] there, uh, one of the big ones that

[57:44] everyone is kind of interested in right

[57:45] now is the, uh, definitions on data

[57:48] centers. So, right now, what everyone is

[57:50] looking at is is the state is going to

[57:52] basically bind data centers. And when

[57:55] we're updating our land use code,

[57:57] whether you're trying to bring data

[57:59] centers in or you're trying to keep data

[58:01] centers out, the definitions of what

[58:04] that is would be probably the most

[58:06] foundational piece as we're moving

[58:07] forward in that land use code. So, you

[58:10] know, just working for with the uh uh

[58:12] UAC to try to get the legislators to

[58:14] make sure they're putting that those

[58:16] definitions out so that communities can

[58:18] go ahead and and and actually uh update

[58:20] their land use codes. Um that was a

[58:22] pretty interesting little meeting. And

[58:24] then we had the SERA board meeting on

[58:26] the 27th, which was really neat. Um and

[58:31] then the last two days I've been up at

[58:32] the Southeastern Energy Summit in SERA

[58:35] and so that was great to go see that. Um

[58:38] there's a ton of great work that they're

[58:39] doing out there in Carbon County right

[58:41] now. Um we went and visited today the uh

[58:44] San Raphael Energy Lab and there's just

[58:47] there's so many solutions and that

[58:49] they're trying to come up with and it's

[58:50] great to see all the work that's going

[58:52] into that into that little center over

[58:54] there whether it's Valor Atomics or the

[58:57] Energy Lab and um the way that they're

[58:59] working with uh desalinization and just

[59:03] ways that we could actually possibly use

[59:05] nuclear into the future. So rather than

[59:08] just, you know, producing the energy,

[59:10] they're also doing all the research that

[59:11] goes behind it. So it was really neat to

[59:14] go check that out and then also to go

[59:16] visit the uh um the uh uh airport out

[59:20] there and the USU's um aviation school

[59:23] that they have. There's a lot of

[59:25] economic development that's been done

[59:26] out there and it's it's really neat to

[59:28] see all the stuff that they've done and

[59:30] all the stuff that they have coming up

[59:32] as well. and quite a few interesting

[59:34] things as far as air taxis and all kinds

[59:37] of really neat things that are that are

[59:38] coming out here into this uh rural Utah.

[59:41] And you know, it's that that was really

[59:43] kind of like my feeling of that whole

[59:45] little sort of board meeting, which is,

[59:47] you know, just we all forget that we're

[59:49] just southeastern Utah, right? And if we

[59:51] don't look after each other, I mean,

[59:52] nobody else will. So, it's great to see

[59:54] all the partners and all the communities

[59:56] that are around and see the support that

[59:58] they're all giving each other. Even

[59:59] though that we're different in the ways

[1:00:01] that we our communities are and that the

[1:00:03] uh um you know how we present, it is

[1:00:05] great to see all that support.

[1:00:08] >> I have a uh one thing to add, Brian. Um

[1:00:10] will you be we as far as the OI grant

[1:00:13] mudsprings thing, will you be bringing

[1:00:15] that to the um MTAP board as the

[1:00:18] leazison?

[1:00:18] >> I'll make sure that Lindell has that I

[1:00:20] think on the 8th when that board meeting

[1:00:22] is. I think that that's the uh opening

[1:00:24] on the shuttle. So, I'll probably be out

[1:00:26] riding on the shuttle that day. I'll

[1:00:27] probably missing that meeting, but I

[1:00:28] will make sure that it gets put on the

[1:00:31] United Way Olympics.

[1:00:34] >> Okay, that brings us to 5:00. So, we

[1:00:36] will go with our citizens to be heard,

[1:00:38] public to be heard. You have anyone in

[1:00:40] the audience who'd like to come and

[1:00:42] speak?

[1:00:44] Alison Matthysse. I'm a resident of

[1:00:58] Moab. [clears throat] I am here to

[1:01:00] exercise my First Amendment rights for

[1:01:02] free speech and to petition the

[1:01:04] government for the repressive

[1:01:06] grievances. I am also here because I am

[1:01:09] angry. I'm angry that this commission,

[1:01:12] specifically Chair McCannis, continues

[1:01:15] to either suppress people's first

[1:01:18] amendment rights or try to. That is

[1:01:20] frankly wrong.

[1:01:23] Whether it happens to me, as it happened

[1:01:25] in February, or it happened last week to

[1:01:28] that other gentleman, it's still wrong.

[1:01:32] Trying to suppress what something says

[1:01:34] is called viewpoint discrimination, and

[1:01:37] that is unconstitutional.

[1:01:40] It needs to stop. I will be emailing you

[1:01:44] guys this information sheet that is from

[1:01:47] the foundation for individual rights and

[1:01:49] expression. It's entitled know your

[1:01:52] rights public comment periods. And it

[1:01:55] says that's because in the United

[1:01:56] States, quote, "Debate on public issues

[1:01:58] should be uninhibited, robust, and wide

[1:02:00] open." End quote. Even when it includes

[1:02:03] quote vehement, costic, and sometimes

[1:02:06] unpleasantly sharp attacks on government

[1:02:08] and public officials. This is from New

[1:02:10] York Times Company versus Sullivan 1964.

[1:02:15] It needs to stop. If a commissioner or

[1:02:18] the commission as a whole is doing

[1:02:20] something that I find problematic, I get

[1:02:23] to say that whether or not you like it,

[1:02:26] that is my first amendment right. And if

[1:02:28] it's an individual commissioner, such as

[1:02:30] the way uh uh nearly a month ago, Mr.

[1:02:33] Winfield violated the commission's rules

[1:02:37] in attacking other commissioners and

[1:02:39] then did not adhere to the Robert's rule

[1:02:42] of rules of whatever it's called and

[1:02:45] acknowledging a point of order. I get to

[1:02:47] say that and I also get to say that I'm

[1:02:50] upset that two weeks ago Mccandas, Miss

[1:02:52] McCandless did what I considered to be a

[1:02:56] unfair both siding about that event. She

[1:02:59] said in the time period before I was

[1:03:01] here last week, but personal attacks,

[1:03:04] interruptions, walkouts, and hostility

[1:03:06] undermine public trust and distract us

[1:03:08] from the work constituents elected us to

[1:03:10] do. the hostility

[1:03:13] was coming and personal attacks was

[1:03:15] coming from Mr. Winfield. What choice

[1:03:17] did the other commissioners have to but

[1:03:20] to walk out? I honestly think that's the

[1:03:22] best response that they could have done

[1:03:24] because commission's rules were being

[1:03:26] violated. I get to say things that I

[1:03:28] think that the shuttle policy is a

[1:03:30] really bad policy. And I also get to say

[1:03:33] that I think it's a waste of tax dollars

[1:03:35] and I'm upset that four commissioners

[1:03:38] specifically Mr. Martinez, Mr. McCardy,

[1:03:40] Mr. Winfield and Miss McCandless has

[1:03:42] ignored a mass amount of public uh

[1:03:45] comment, ignored a vast amount of

[1:03:47] expertise on the topic and ran that

[1:03:49] ahead. Anyway, I think it's even more

[1:03:51] poorly implemented. I also get to say

[1:03:54] things that it's well known in the

[1:03:56] public that Brian Martinez got fired

[1:03:58] from his private sector job.

[1:04:00] >> All right, your time is up. Thank you.

[1:04:02] Have a good evening.

[1:04:03] >> Also, real quickly,

[1:04:05] >> no, ma'am. Your time is up.

[1:04:07] >> Ma'am, your time is up.

[1:04:09] >> Wind of order. Point of order. Your time

[1:04:10] is up, ma'am. Thank you.

[1:04:12] >> Thank you.

[1:04:14] >> Not the chair. Brian,

[1:04:16] >> I call point of order.

[1:04:19] >> And there's

[1:04:20] >> Okay, that's enough. Um, did you want to

[1:04:23] speak since you just came in?

[1:04:25] >> Well, again, I don't want to, but I was

[1:04:27] planning to.

[1:04:27] >> Okay. Well,

[1:04:28] >> is it my turn?

[1:04:29] >> Yes.

[1:04:30] I think we're Yeah, unless somebody else

[1:04:32] walks in the door, you're going to be

[1:04:34] >> What's up?

[1:04:34] >> I said unless somebody else walks in the

[1:04:36] door, we're going to join the meeting.

[1:04:38] So

[1:04:39] >> I think I can under three minutes. I

[1:04:41] wish I could have just yield some of my

[1:04:42] time. Maybe I could have

[1:04:44] >> yield time. Sorry. It's in our policies

[1:04:45] and procedures.

[1:04:47] >> Okay. Um looking at the cost of Arches

[1:04:51] Shuttle numbers. Um on an annual basis,

[1:04:55] taxpayers are spending $8,000 per day.

[1:04:58] However, it's only supposed to operate

[1:04:59] six months of the year. $16,000 a day.

[1:05:04] Um

[1:05:05] what else I was going to say? And I was

[1:05:07] looking over some recent travel budgets

[1:05:10] and two members of the commission stood

[1:05:13] out. I'm making eye contact with them

[1:05:17] for exceeding their travel budgets by

[1:05:19] substantial margins. And it's not even

[1:05:23] the end of the year. It's still 2026 for

[1:05:26] another 5 months or four months. Did I

[1:05:29] do the math right? Four months. Anyway,

[1:05:31] thank you very much. I did it in

[1:05:34] 47. You have 40 seconds.

[1:05:37] >> Thank you. Okay. Anyone else in the

[1:05:39] audience like to speak?

[1:05:43] » All right. Well, with that, we will

[1:05:45] adjourn this meeting at 5:05 p.m.

[1:05:49] >> Thank you. And we have a good night.

[1:05:54] I don't know like almost were you

[1:05:57] if I knew it was anything.

9.1.26 Commission Meeting

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