[5:05] Great. Welcome everyone to the town of

[5:06] Greater Napony regular session of

[5:08] council for the 25th day of August 2026.

[5:11] Just before we call the meeting to

[5:12] order, I just want to remind everyone

[5:13] this evening that this evening's meeting

[5:15] is being livereamed via our YouTube

[5:17] channel. So, welcome to those that are

[5:19] in the body of the council chambers this

[5:21] evening. Welcome to those that are

[5:22] watching uh tonight and welcome to those

[5:24] that will watch us at a later date. So

[5:26] having said all that, we'll call the

[5:27] meeting to order and we'll start our

[5:28] meeting uh with our opening proceeding

[5:30] which is a playing of the national

[5:32] anthem. So I'll ask those in the body of

[5:34] the council chambers to stand and face

[5:35] the flag as we play our national

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[7:22] » Great. Thanks everyone. Uh just uh

[7:25] before we get going, we're going to uh

[7:27] deal with a closed session that we had

[7:29] earlier this evening. So I'll look for a

[7:31] motion to uh note rece [clears throat]

[7:34] or sorry to uh go into or to do our

[7:36] rising report from close session. Moved

[7:38] by deputy mayor Calver, second by

[7:39] councelor Shank if there's no further

[7:41] comments, questions or concerns. All in

[7:42] favor of that motion? Opposed? Motion's

[7:44] carried. I would like to report uh that

[7:48] in closed session this evening

[7:52] uh that council received for information

[7:54] the confidential appointments to the

[7:56] joint compliance audit committee report

[7:58] and further that council approve the

[8:00] recommended appointments and direct that

[8:02] a bylaw be brought to the September 8th

[8:05] 2026 meeting for adoption. Uh look for a

[8:10] motion to note and receive that. Uh

[8:11] moved by councelor Nory second by depra.

[8:14] There's no further comments, questions,

[8:16] or concerns. All in favor of that

[8:17] motion? Opposed? Motion's carried. Uh

[8:20] the next matter is confidential

[8:21] SR1429-2026

[8:24] legal advice. The council received for

[8:26] information the confidential legal

[8:28] advice report.

[8:30] Moved by

[8:32] councelor Davyy, second by councelor

[8:33] Shank. If there's no further comments,

[8:35] questions, or concerns, all in favor of

[8:37] that motion? Opposed? The motion's

[8:40] carried. And I'm just going to back up

[8:42] because we do have some rising reports.

[8:43] Madam clerk, I think from August 11th

[8:45] and 25th, am I correct?

[8:48] » Through your worship. Yes. Uh since

[8:50] August 11th was only close session in

[8:52] the special meeting, we'll do the rise

[8:53] and report. Yeah.

[8:55] » Okay. So, having uh said

[9:00] » Uh this one here, right, right?

[9:01] » Yeah.

[9:02] » Yeah.

[9:02] » Uh we'll uh look for a motion to know

[9:05] and receive the confidential SR1434-2026

[9:09] land sale former Suttered Lands. that

[9:11] council receive for information the

[9:13] confidential land sale former sutter

[9:15] lands report and fur that council direct

[9:16] and authorized staff to proceed as

[9:18] directed in close session moved by

[9:20] deputy mayor calver second by councelor

[9:21] Martin if there's no further comments

[9:23] questions or concerns all in favor of

[9:24] that motion motion's carried and finally

[9:28] confidential SR1433-2026

[9:31] human resources report August 11th the

[9:33] council receive for information the

[9:34] confidential human resources report

[9:37] moved by councelor Nory second by

[9:39] councelor Martin if there's no further

[9:41] comments, questions, or concerns. All in

[9:43] favor of that motion? Opposed? Motion's

[9:45] carried. Uh look for a motion to adopt

[9:50] uh the agenda as presented. Move by

[9:53] councelor Davyy. Second by councelor

[9:54] Shank. If there's no further comments,

[9:56] questions or concerns. All in favor of

[9:57] that motion. Opposed. Motion's carried.

[10:00] Disclosure of pecuniary interest in the

[10:01] general nature thereof. Is there any

[10:03] disclosures of pecuniary interest this

[10:05] evening?

[10:07] Seeing none, uh, deputations, schedule

[10:10] deputations, new items. I don't believe

[10:13] we have any, madame clerk. Uh,

[10:15] deputations item on the agenda. We do

[10:17] have one deputation, Jay Bogdanowitz.

[10:20] Miss Bdanowitz is here. And so, welcome,

[10:24] uh, Miss Bogdanowitz. Uh, I don't know

[10:26] if you've been here in person or not.

[10:28] The microphone in front of you, there's

[10:29] a button in the middle uh, says push.

[10:32] You just have to push it. Once the green

[10:33] light is on, the green light is on and

[10:36] we'll be able to hear you. but they have

[10:37] to have the green light on so the folks

[10:38] at home can hear you as well. So, um,

[10:40] whenever you're ready, the floor of

[10:42] yours.

[10:43] » Okay, great. Thank you. Uh, thank you,

[10:45] uh, for allowing me to speak tonight.

[10:47] Uh, I appreciated the conversation, uh,

[10:49] at the last meeting very much. Um, and I

[10:52] appreciated that there was a unanimous

[10:54] interest in, uh, a bylaw review of, um,

[10:57] of, I guess, orders to mow tall grasses.

[11:00] Um, I also very much appreciated that

[11:02] two council members came to the property

[11:04] to see uh the garden that we are trying

[11:06] to naturalize and uh they spoke highly

[11:08] of it uh during the council meeting and

[11:11] um you know suggested that others uh

[11:12] could do the same as well on their

[11:14] properties. Um I appreciated the staff

[11:16] report that was turned around very

[11:18] quickly um and that was very thorough

[11:20] although I have a few questions about

[11:22] that report today.

[11:24] Um, and I guess, um, what I'm kind of

[11:27] left wondering is that regardless of,

[11:29] um, you know, the praise I received from

[11:31] from the counselors, um, staff continue

[11:34] to recommend upholding the order to MO.

[11:37] Um, and so again, I'm here to, uh,

[11:39] request that the order is cancelled. Uh,

[11:41] and to just confirm again that this

[11:43] issue is causing a great amount of

[11:45] distress for for me and my family.

[11:48] Um, one of the things in the report that

[11:50] I found uh that was interesting that I

[11:52] wanted to highlight um was an

[11:54] interpretive direction that pollinator

[11:57] gardens and naturalized lawns could fall

[11:59] within the existing exemption for

[12:01] ornamental grasses that currently exist

[12:03] in the bylaw.

[12:05] And if that interpretation is taken,

[12:07] that would protect our garden and others

[12:09] like it um as the bylaw update proceeds

[12:12] uh without rec without requiring council

[12:15] to wait until the next term to act. So I

[12:17] thought that was a kind of an

[12:18] interesting um let's not call it a

[12:20] loophole, but a kind of interesting

[12:21] interpretation um to address this issue.

[12:25] Um I'm also [clears throat] here to seek

[12:27] clarification about the report in

[12:29] particular. Uh the report recommends um

[12:32] mowing along two of my property lines,

[12:34] but it says that I I don't need to mow

[12:36] if if the area is a wetland and those

[12:39] property lines um contain cattails. And

[12:42] so in my interpretation, this is um you

[12:44] know part of a a storm water swale and

[12:46] I'm curious to know if that would be

[12:48] considered a wetland or not.

[12:51] Um the report also um suggests that the

[12:54] order is canled. Um, however, it kind of

[12:58] suggests that it could be opened up

[12:59] again um before the next term of

[13:01] council. Um, and so again, I'm here to

[13:03] humbly ask that the decision that is

[13:05] made today closes the issue for us until

[13:07] the bylaw can be updated.

[13:10] Um, the topic of t ticks and pests came

[13:14] up at the last meeting. Um, and uh, I

[13:16] wanted to refer to the letter that

[13:18] council has received by Joyce Hustlin,

[13:21] uh, who is a Thousand Islands master

[13:23] gardener.

[13:24] uh she wanted to um I guess point

[13:26] council to um a number of scientific

[13:29] papers that have been written on the

[13:30] issue and uh and if uh council proceeds

[13:34] with updating the bylaw encourage that

[13:36] those involved in that um that they

[13:39] consult the the latest scient scientific

[13:41] papers on the issue and in particular

[13:43] just to quote her um her letter she says

[13:46] that blackhead black sorry blacklegged

[13:48] ticks um and their abundance is driven

[13:51] by deer access white-footed mice

[13:53] populations and woodland proximity and

[13:55] it's um and plant height and mowing

[13:58] schedules do not quite um you know

[14:00] contribute to tick populations.

[14:03] Um and so finally just to conclude um

[14:06] you know again I'm here as I've

[14:07] mentioned in my letter I will not be

[14:08] destroying my garden uh and forced to

[14:10] mow and if the town decides to destroy

[14:13] the garden I will have no choice but to

[14:15] take legal action for damages. Thank

[14:17] you.

[14:19] » Great. Thanks Madanowitch. Just hang

[14:21] tight and we'll see if uh just hang

[14:23] tight. We'll see if council has any

[14:24] questions for you. Okay. So, council, do

[14:26] you have any questions or comments for

[14:28] for Julie with respect to her her uh

[14:30] deputation here this evening?

[14:34] Uh Deputy Mayor Calber, thank you

[14:37] worship.

[14:40] The blacklegged tick. There's a lot of

[14:43] different talks about what causes, what

[14:46] doesn't cause, where they live, where

[14:47] they don't live. Um,

[14:52] as much as you're saying that long grass

[14:55] doesn't attribute to them and so on and

[14:57] so forth, there's also documents out

[14:58] there that say it does. Um, I'm just

[15:02] just a little concerned. I mean, we have

[15:04] bylaws in place for a reason.

[15:07] And

[15:09] here we are. As much as you enjoy your

[15:11] your natural garden, natural yard, and I

[15:14] did take a drive out there, by the way.

[15:15] I didn't I didn't knock on your door. I

[15:18] went and seen what I could see from the

[15:19] road. Um, and I've seen your trails that

[15:22] you've got cut through your property and

[15:24] stuff, but

[15:27] I I just I'm just concerned myself. I

[15:29] know with our property that we maintain

[15:31] and look at, 100 plus acres of land. Um,

[15:34] and we have trails as well and uh we do

[15:37] have ticks on the property um as well.

[15:41] And it's uh it's a non-stop fight to try

[15:43] to keep them and we keep everything cut

[15:45] back on our trails and so on and so

[15:46] forth. But uh yeah, I'm just a little

[15:49] concerned when you when you say that the

[15:50] long grass doesn't doesn't in inhibit

[15:53] these uh these ticks because we have

[15:55] them too and they're everywhere and

[15:57] especially in southeastern Ontario there

[16:00] these ticks are all over the place. So

[16:03] anyways, that was all I've got to say on

[16:04] that. So, I I still believe our bylaws

[16:08] are are still good and should be

[16:10] followed. Thank you.

[16:12] » Thank you. Uh, Deputy Mayor Calver, is

[16:16] there anything else for Miss Baganowitz

[16:18] before we move on?

[16:21] Seeing none, uh, hang tight, uh, Julie.

[16:24] We will have a, I'm sure, a robust

[16:26] conversation about the matter later on

[16:28] in the agenda. So, uh, um, relax and see

[16:32] how we do things here in Napony. So,

[16:33] thank you. I'll look for a motion to

[16:35] note and receive the uh the uh

[16:38] deputation of Julie Bogdanowitz. Moved

[16:41] by councelor Noi, second by Deputy Mayor

[16:43] Calver. If there's no further comments,

[16:45] questions, or concerns, all in favor of

[16:47] that motion? Opposed? Motion's carried.

[16:49] Unfinished business. The first matter is

[16:51] updated executive services, labor

[16:53] relations, reserve, spending thresholds,

[16:55] and governance framework. And Mr. Grant,

[16:58] I think you're going to speak to that.

[17:00] Uh so when you get settled in there,

[17:01] we'll uh we'll allow you to take the

[17:03] floor.

[17:12] Uh thank you worship and through you

[17:14] your worship to members of council. Um

[17:16] this is an item that is coming back uh

[17:19] with respect uh to uh labor relations uh

[17:24] reserve. Uh the initial trunch of money

[17:27] going into the reserve uh is $155,000

[17:32] um from workplace self uh safety and

[17:35] insurance board. Uh and the team has

[17:38] also talked about how to have recurring

[17:41] support um for that kind of reserve. Um

[17:44] the the current theory is what's called

[17:47] gapping dollars. So there will be uh

[17:49] monies that are unspent on budgeted

[17:51] salary dollars due to turnover or

[17:52] recruitment and that sort of thing. and

[17:54] that's uh dedicated for HR so should be

[17:57] going for HR purposes. Uh council at our

[18:01] uh last meeting expressed the desire um

[18:04] to understand um exactly how this money

[18:07] would be allocated and spent, how

[18:09] council uh could perform its fiduciary

[18:12] duty in terms of spending limits um

[18:15] while also

[18:17] um creating a a separation on specific

[18:21] HR matters. And I think that we've

[18:22] struck a reasonable balance here and I'm

[18:24] I'm happy to get your views on it. So,

[18:26] the proposed delegated authority limits

[18:29] um the way that it uh is proposed to

[18:32] work is that uh there'd be a maximum

[18:34] spend uh of $25,000

[18:38] um for things such as recruitment

[18:40] advertising, executive or specialized

[18:42] recruitment services, uh candidate uh

[18:44] assessment and testing tools, relocation

[18:46] assistance, um things like that for uh

[18:50] recruitment and staffing transition

[18:52] costs, termination, severance, and

[18:54] workforce restructuring costs such as uh

[18:56] contractual termination pay, severance

[18:58] obligations, vacation payout,

[18:59] liabilities, uh labor relations uh and

[19:02] legal expenses and investigation cost

[19:05] such as external labor employment legal

[19:08] services, workplace investigations

[19:10] um under some of our policies uh such as

[19:13] the workplace harassment uh bylaw,

[19:16] arbitration and mediation costs, human

[19:18] rights or employment compliance matters,

[19:20] uh WSIB and accommodation costs. Um so

[19:25] uh I would have the authority to

[19:27] authorize the spend on the

[19:28] recommendation of human resources uh and

[19:31] would do so in consultation with the

[19:33] treasurer. Um the uh anything exceeding

[19:37] that and candidly anything serious would

[19:40] exceed that. uh it just would uh would

[19:43] come to council uh for an inc camera

[19:45] discussion uh in a general sense without

[19:48] getting into the specific HR files per

[19:51] se. But this this is the problem we're

[19:52] trying to solve and this is why we think

[19:54] this uh avenue uh is the proper avenue

[19:57] to solve it and this is how much uh we

[19:59] believe that we need above and beyond

[20:01] what is our delegated authority. Um, I

[20:04] would expect um a lot of um uh spending

[20:10] would be minor in nature and far below

[20:13] the $25,000 threshold. One of the things

[20:16] that sparked this discussion candidly

[20:18] was um the fact that HR had no

[20:21] recruitment budget.

[20:22] » Um that candidly was a problem u from my

[20:26] perspective. we were using uh our own uh

[20:29] website, social media and that sort of

[20:31] thing to try to find um appropriate

[20:34] staff and and sometimes we're looking

[20:36] for very specialized people in a very

[20:38] competitive market. So I'll I'll give

[20:40] you an example. Um he's not here anymore

[20:43] online so I can embarrass him. Um Mr.

[20:47] Hatton is someone that we did an

[20:49] expanded uh search for using very

[20:51] specific uh advertising methods

[20:54] particularly um the association of

[20:56] planners websites and which come at a

[20:59] cost um and that's where we found them

[21:02] and uh that is candidly a get because

[21:05] planners are hard to find. Um there's a

[21:08] number of different kinds of professions

[21:09] that are hard uh to fill and that is one

[21:12] of them at this point in time. Um so we

[21:15] would see things such as that. Um

[21:19] the uh and anything above and beyond

[21:22] that as I mentioned we would bring to

[21:24] council um for uh your authorization. Um

[21:28] we would give you a full rationale and

[21:31] you know as we do financial reporting we

[21:33] would indicate um these are where monies

[21:35] were spent and the reason that they were

[21:37] spent that way. And with that uh I or

[21:40] Miss Natt Fischer are happy to answer

[21:42] any of your questions.

[21:44] Great. Uh, thank you, Mr. Grant. Go

[21:45] ahead, Councelor Nish.

[21:47] » Mr. Grant. Um, just I think I know the

[21:49] answer, but the relocation assistance is

[21:51] that the sweet in the pot to say to

[21:53] bring someone from the other end of the

[21:54] lake from a big city to here or

[21:56] something like that? Is that the idea

[21:58] » To Mr. Mayor? Short answer, yes. Um, so

[22:01] if we're pulling people from if we're

[22:04] trying to um entice them from the

[22:06] greater Toronto area or beyond, um, it's

[22:10] unlikely we'd be able to pay full

[22:11] relocation. Um but sometimes that's

[22:14] what's needed to give us a competitive

[22:16] edge over over a different organization.

[22:18] [clears throat]

[22:20] » Thought so. Thank you.

[22:22] » Thank you councelor Nor. Thank you Mr.

[22:23] Grant. Is there anything else? Councelor

[22:27] Martin.

[22:28] » Thank you mayor through you. Um Mr.

[22:31] Grant. Um

[22:35] the the

[22:37] reserve fund is was or is or whatever it

[22:40] was at 155

[22:43] 155,000

[22:44] and

[22:46] » Mr. Mayor. Yes, it is.

[22:48] » Okay. Um so

[22:51] if the corporation saves money during

[22:54] the year that's going to be replenished

[22:56] by that money saved. So what what

[22:59] happens if there's x number of dollars

[23:02] saved and you keep you build up that

[23:04] fund to um a large amount? I mean, I I

[23:08] like reserve funds, Billy. Me for, you

[23:11] know, firet truck, uh, uh, snow plows,

[23:15] building maintenance, that type of

[23:16] thing. But I'm just I'm just wondering

[23:18] why HR usually isn't an emergency

[23:22] situation. Like, usually HR can come to

[23:25] council for for funds or whatever. And

[23:30] should there maybe be a cap on the

[23:33] reserve fund as far as I mean how much

[23:37] money would would you recommend that uh

[23:40] or you you would think that's going to

[23:42] be needed in a particular year.

[23:48] » So through you Mr. Mayor to councelor

[23:50] Martin uh difficult to say depending on

[23:52] year to year. So I would agree that

[23:54] there's no uh emergency situations per

[23:56] se. Uh but human resources is part of

[23:59] the business that costs money has cost

[24:01] money. We can cost that out over the

[24:03] last several years. We've just been

[24:04] pulling it from other places. Um so it's

[24:07] it's come at the expense of of some

[24:09] other places. Um I would say do I think

[24:13] that the reserve is going to get quite a

[24:15] bit higher year-over-year savings? I

[24:17] would love to have that problem.

[24:19] [laughter]

[24:20] I don't think we're going to have that

[24:22] problem.

[24:23] um only because of some of the the uh

[24:26] past dollars that have been spent for

[24:28] specific reasons, whether it be

[24:29] arbitration that we recently went

[24:31] through. Um if we have mediation cost,

[24:34] recruitment costs, um there's an ongoing

[24:37] costs that are fairly healthy. And I

[24:40] wouldn't suggest that we'd want to go

[24:41] much over 150 unless uh if it indicated,

[24:47] you know, a circumstance indicated that

[24:49] we needed more than that, we would come

[24:50] to you and ask to to raise the

[24:51] threshold. If we were over that, my

[24:53] expectation would be that uh finance

[24:56] would tell you um look, we we are over

[24:59] the threshold of the reserve that was

[25:00] originally set up by council. What would

[25:02] you like to do with the money? Um so I I

[25:05] don't think we're going to see uh the

[25:07] reserve grow and grow and grow per se.

[25:09] It's unlike other reserves and that

[25:10] there's continuous operating needs, but

[25:13] it's been uh a negotiation between HR

[25:16] and others uh between uh how things will

[25:20] be funded, where the money is going to

[25:21] come from, are people going to get the

[25:23] same level of service uh based on the

[25:25] budget they have to allocate for a

[25:27] recruitment effort or whatnot. And we're

[25:29] we're looking to sort of standardize the

[25:31] service so everyone gets the same level

[25:33] of service, if you may, if you will. Um

[25:35] so that's the intention for it.

[25:38] I don't know if I answered your question

[25:39] there, counselor,

[25:41] in a roundabout way.

[25:44] Thank you. Um, could I just um

[25:48] So, is is that uh does this mean if we

[25:51] have a reserve fund of 150 roughly,000

[25:56] that that will no longer be a budget

[25:58] item because other years we've actually

[26:00] budgeted for HR expenses, have we not?

[26:05] And I mean, if there's an expense coming

[26:07] that needs to be paid for, it usually

[26:09] comes out of the general reserve as

[26:11] opposed to

[26:13] having a I mean, I don't know how many

[26:15] reserves we have now. I I've I've heard

[26:17] a number of reserves over over the last

[26:20] four years, and I'm just I just want to

[26:22] make sure that council is aware of every

[26:25] dollar spent, but we all know that next

[26:28] year is going to be a a challenging year

[26:31] budget-wise. So, I'm just I'm just

[26:32] trying to get a perspective on on what's

[26:35] going ahead as far as our budgeting is

[26:37] concerned.

[26:38] » I think uh I think our human resources

[26:40] professional may be able to weigh in on

[26:42] this, Mr. Grant. So, go ahead, Holly.

[26:44] » Thank you. Through your worship. Um we

[26:48] of course now my brain has gone

[26:49] completely empty. Um

[26:53] Oh my goodness,

[26:55] my brain's empty. It

[26:58] Yeah, thank you. Um, [laughter]

[27:01] in the past we have budgeted for known

[27:03] expenses in HR that have come up. So

[27:06] when we know we're going to arbitration,

[27:08] when we know we're doing those certain

[27:10] when we're going to have higher than

[27:11] normal legal fees, but in a lot of the

[27:13] situations that you see listed in this

[27:15] reserve here, they're unknown. They

[27:17] happen kind of just as they happen. Um,

[27:20] so I I foresee this being a separate pot

[27:23] of money for that exact reason. we will

[27:26] still likely budget for these higher

[27:29] expense item ticket items that we know

[27:31] are coming. So, we won't be pulling from

[27:33] those reserves for that specific thing

[27:35] when we know it's coming. But otherwise,

[27:38] everything else listed in this reserve,

[27:40] it it kind of comes up as the year goes

[27:43] on and that's why we're asking for this

[27:44] specific pot of money on the side to

[27:46] pull from.

[27:50] Yep.

[27:51] » So, this is just for emergency funds.

[27:55] This isn't for So, we'll still be

[27:57] looking at budgeting for normal HR

[28:00] expenses.

[28:02] So,

[28:02] » Through your worship, yes, we will still

[28:04] be planning on budgeting for normal

[28:06] known HR expenses. I'm not confident the

[28:09] word emergency is the right word um

[28:11] because that has a certain context

[28:13] associated with it. But these are the

[28:14] unknown costs that happen throughout the

[28:16] year. Um, they happen every year.

[28:18] They're going to happen every year, but

[28:20] you can't plan for them because you

[28:22] don't know which ones are going to come

[28:24] up.

[28:25] » Thank you. Sorry. Go ahead, Mr. Grant.

[28:28] » So, three, Mr. May, I'll give I'll give

[28:30] an example for you, counselor. So, uh,

[28:33] some of the recruitment costs that we

[28:34] would incur, we wouldn't know. Um, so,

[28:37] uh, people don't often, uh, forecast in

[28:40] advance, um, before they've found a new

[28:43] job. They let you know when they've

[28:44] secured a new job. Not that anyone not

[28:47] that we want anyone to leave. Um but uh

[28:50] the difference in recruiting um certain

[28:53] positions uh versus other positions.

[28:56] There will be a difference in cost in

[28:57] how you would have to go to recruit

[28:59] because one year we might find a

[29:02] difficult to recruit position that we

[29:03] have to invest more money into to find

[29:05] the right person. Uh and other ones um

[29:09] those types of uh people that could fill

[29:12] those positions are are more abundant in

[29:14] the area. um we might have uh an HR

[29:18] investigation that comes up for whatever

[29:20] reason that we weren't anticipating that

[29:22] we would need um funds for, but we

[29:25] wouldn't be necessarily anticipating

[29:27] those because a matter might have uh

[29:29] popped up that would be contrary to a

[29:31] policy and we're obligated under policy

[29:33] to act. Um but we wouldn't have been

[29:35] able to foresee those because um we

[29:38] didn't plan for someone to break a

[29:40] policy.

[29:42] » Thank you, Mr. Graham.

[29:45] Thank you. Uh, council, go ahead,

[29:47] councelor Shane.

[29:49] Hi,

[29:50] » Matthew. Uh, I'll give you an analogy. I

[29:52] had a wise man tell me once that uh, and

[29:54] this is council's what's happened in the

[29:57] past. All right. So, if a child touches

[29:59] a stove when it's really hot, it's a

[30:01] little gunshy touching again. So,

[30:03] there's a concern here. All right. I'll

[30:06] be I'm just being honest. All right.

[30:08] That

[30:10] are we giving you the the keys to the

[30:13] safe? if you know what I mean. I know

[30:14] it's 155,000, but are we losing any

[30:18] authority of no, we're not going to pay

[30:22] that out or no, we're not going to do

[30:23] this or we're losing that. Now, I'm in

[30:27] agreement with what you're doing. All

[30:29] right,

[30:30] cautiously. All right, but uh Ellen is

[30:35] going to give us a quarterly financial

[30:37] breakdown.

[30:39] uh anything is I have faith because we

[30:42] have great staff that anything that's

[30:45] contentious

[30:46] that is you know it doesn't do the smell

[30:49] test because uh we're not a municipality

[30:53] that just goes yeah we'll just yeah

[30:55] we'll bend or yeah no you know what I

[30:57] mean if it has to go that route we we'll

[30:59] go that route you know what I mean but

[31:01] we have to be fair and honest with

[31:02] ourselves also and where that money

[31:04] spent and that's where I think where

[31:05] Bill's coming from also where counselor

[31:07] Martin is coming from is that we just

[31:09] want to make sure that we're not out of

[31:11] the loop, that we're still in that loop

[31:13] with Ellen's uh financial what she's

[31:16] going to give us to us and with your

[31:18] communication skills, Matthew and and

[31:20] Holly, what you guys are doing, I feel

[31:22] confident that you're doing it. So, I'm

[31:25] not saying I'm not going to look at it

[31:26] with a real magnifying glass, but it's

[31:28] definitely going to be looked at. So,

[31:30] that's what my concern is. as long as

[31:31] you you address those type of concerns

[31:33] with the the future council then uh you

[31:36] know what I mean what their concern

[31:37] might be because you know once bitten

[31:42] twice shy you know what I mean so that's

[31:43] where you're into a shy state right now

[31:45] so that's all

[31:48] » Yeah go ahead Mr. Grant

[31:50] » So um I'll uh I'll I'll speak to that

[31:53] counselor and and invite Holly to weigh

[31:55] in so I'd first say through you Mr.

[31:57] Mayor, if we were going to rob the safe,

[31:59] I'd ask you for a lot more money. I

[32:01] really would. Um, and there's nothing in

[32:05] this policy that would allow us to spend

[32:06] $150,000 in one shot. So, what you're

[32:10] seeing in terms of a $25,000 limit,

[32:13] that's around my that's actually quite a

[32:15] bit less than my delegated authority

[32:16] already. Um, it it's and to date in my

[32:21] time here. Uh, I like working here, so I

[32:23] wouldn't spend that without telling you.

[32:24] Uh, unless it was a serious emergency,

[32:27] like I need to act and spend something

[32:29] now, we're going to lose a lot more. Um,

[32:33] what I would say is, um, let's call it,

[32:37] um, say if there was a dismissal that

[32:39] had to be made for whatever reason, um,

[32:41] some of this would be enough to to cover

[32:43] the statutory limits that we'd be

[32:45] required to pay anyway. if we were

[32:47] looking to have a negotiated settlement

[32:49] that would far exceed that for whatever

[32:51] reason, $25,000 probably wouldn't do it.

[32:54] Um, candidly, um, and if we were going

[32:58] to do that and look to get into a

[33:00] negotiated settlement, um, I would more

[33:04] than likely give you like give you the

[33:07] situation of here's the situation we're

[33:09] in. Here's the the management decision

[33:11] that I need to make. um I need uh to,

[33:16] you know, pull this amount of funds for

[33:17] this reason. Um and if I don't do that,

[33:20] here are some other options in order to

[33:22] get to the outcome that we need to get

[33:25] to. If it's not financial like right

[33:28] away, it might be um not that anyone's

[33:31] going to get fired, um but it would be

[33:33] something like salary continuence to

[33:35] spread out money as opposed to a lump

[33:37] sum out of the reserve. There'd be

[33:39] different ways to get at it. Um but

[33:42] we're quite aware um of the hot stove.

[33:46] Um we've taken great pains uh to ensure

[33:48] that staff and council have a high

[33:50] degree of trust and we value that. Um

[33:53] and uh it's not in our interest nor do

[33:56] we desire to lose that.

[33:58] » Yep. Go ahead.

[34:00] » Like there's not all 25,000. There's an

[34:03] item in here 15,000. So that's the

[34:05] reason why there's but

[34:07] the reason why I'm saying that is

[34:09] because in the past you know a limit was

[34:12] 15,000 and an individual [clears throat]

[34:13] would go ahead and 14,552

[34:16] and then the next month it would be

[34:17] 14,582

[34:19] you know I mean I'm still below my limit

[34:21] you know what I mean as long as none of

[34:23] that ever happens you know I mean and I

[34:26] have trust in you guys so and you all

[34:28] know that you know I don't pound on you

[34:31] every day so there there we go. So yeah,

[34:34] I just that's the reason why the concern

[34:35] is there. That's all.

[34:38] » So uh through Mr. Mayor, if it gives you

[34:40] any comfort, counselor, I'm remarkably

[34:41] cheap.

[34:46] » Thanks, uh councelor Shank. Thank you,

[34:48] Mr. Grant. Deputy Mayor Gbert.

[34:50] » Uh thank you through your worship. Um

[34:52] know exactly where you're coming from,

[34:53] Mike. Uh for a lot of years, we'd say

[34:56] you hear the saying, well, we'll find

[34:58] the money. This isn't money we're going

[35:00] to find. This is money for a specific

[35:04] job. This is for HR. This isn't just a

[35:07] slush fund for others to pull out of.

[35:09] This is HR money, their responsibility,

[35:12] and I have uh nothing but the utmost

[35:14] respect and trust for our staff. Thank

[35:16] you. Thanks, Deputy Mayor Calver. Is

[35:19] there anything else? If not, we do have

[35:23] a recommendation that council receive

[35:25] for information the updated executive

[35:26] services labor's relations reserve

[35:28] spending thresholds and governance

[35:29] framework report and further that

[35:31] council approve the proposed thresholds

[35:33] for delegated authority spending in each

[35:35] category. Moved by councelor Shank,

[35:38] second by councelor Davey. Is there any

[35:40] further comments, questions or concerns

[35:41] with respect to the motions on the

[35:43] floor? Seeing none, we'll call the

[35:45] question. All in favor of the motion

[35:46] that's on the floor opposed. The

[35:48] motion's carried. Next matter is growth

[35:50] in infrastructure request for land

[35:52] transfer 341 Camden Road portion of

[35:54] Milhouse Yard, Stormwater Pond Land. And

[35:58] Mr. Grant, you're going to speak to that

[35:59] as well.

[36:01] » Uh I'm going to parrot the notes that

[36:04] Mr. Nobs was kind enough to give me. Um

[36:07] as uh he's not here today, so if you'll

[36:09] bear with me, I just need to pull that

[36:11] up.

[36:12] Um

[36:18] okay. Um so the subject property that um

[36:22] uh is in the report uh speaks to um

[36:27] fencing and and the like. So the fencing

[36:28] is to delineate uh the limit of town

[36:30] owned storm water pond area which was

[36:33] approved through budget. Uh a survey was

[36:35] completed to determine exact property

[36:37] line for the fence installation. Uh the

[36:39] property line bicts two mature pear

[36:41] trees which were planted by the owner of

[36:44] 341 Camden uh road several years ago. Uh

[36:48] the owner of 341 would like to see the

[36:50] trees retained through the installation

[36:52] of the fence. Uh the owner has requested

[36:54] either the town shift the fence further

[36:56] onto town property to avoid trees

[36:58] effectively

[37:00] um you know that would effectively give

[37:02] up town owned land which is not

[37:04] something that staff would recommend. Uh

[37:07] town compensate for the loss of the

[37:08] trees. A $400 tree of the fences

[37:10] installed on the property line and

[37:12] respectfully I think if there's a tree

[37:14] on our property that's candidly our

[37:16] tree. Um but uh the town transferred a 5

[37:19] foot wide strip of land for $1 to the

[37:22] owner to shift the property line away

[37:23] from the trees. Um

[37:27] you know the there's several different

[37:28] approaches uh to sell you could sell the

[37:30] owner a 5ft wide strip along the rear

[37:33] property line um roughly an $890 sale

[37:36] price to legally shift the property line

[37:38] to allow the trees to remain. Um if

[37:41] council elects to proceed with the sale

[37:43] uh of the land, the next step would be

[37:44] to declare the land surplus, which

[37:46] requires public notice and bylaw to

[37:48] allow the transfer uh would come to a

[37:50] future meeting. This would be a class

[37:52] two surplus as uh there's only one

[37:55] property that could acquire this land.

[37:57] Um so that is I believe Mr. Gnome's

[38:00] recommended option. The uh the other

[38:02] option I think that um uh would come up

[38:06] uh is uh council directed staff to come

[38:10] up with a uh tree bylaw. You may recall

[38:13] if in the event that we were going to

[38:16] install a fence and had to remove a tree

[38:18] to do so, we would be obligated to plant

[38:20] two trees uh under that policy which has

[38:23] yet to come forward. Um but I would say

[38:26] those are the options. I believe Mr. No

[38:28] has the recommended option of a land

[38:30] sale just to preserve the trees as they

[38:32] are. Um if council wanted a different

[38:34] option that would be one of them with

[38:36] that um I'm happy to uh answer

[38:42] sort of questions uh to the best of my

[38:44] ability.

[38:48] » Thank you uh thank you Mr. Grant. Uh

[38:51] let's we'll try and venture through this

[38:53] and see what we can do for you. So um

[38:55] first of all is there any questions? Go

[38:57] ahead, Council Martin.

[39:00] » Sorry, Matthew. [laughter]

[39:02] Um, start off with, I would like to say

[39:05] that

[39:07] somehow or another, I'd like to see

[39:08] those trees saved. That's one of my I

[39:12] was I was over there actually the other

[39:14] day and I I don't know if you recall at

[39:17] council

[39:19] prior councils uh another resident over

[39:21] there actually bought a small area of

[39:26] and it's right beside this property um

[39:28] to square off his property and to make

[39:31] it one continual

[39:33] square fence there. So, I I'm just

[39:35] wondering, and you probably don't maybe

[39:38] don't know this, maybe you do,

[39:41] whether that neighbor was notified

[39:43] because I know there is some concern

[39:45] that now that that there's a bump out of

[39:48] his property next door, it's going to

[39:50] affect the new fence that he put up just

[39:52] recently, within the last, I think it

[39:54] was a month, maybe roughly. So, I don't

[39:57] know if that neighbor was contacted at

[40:00] all about uh his comments.

[40:04] through you, Mr. Mayor. I will have to

[40:06] look in that and get back to you,

[40:07] counselor.

[40:08] » Thank you. Um, there's some other things

[40:11] I'm I'm asking about this, too. Um, the

[40:14] out of the six options that I that we

[40:18] have here. Um,

[40:21] I just want to ask why not number four,

[40:29] which is Well, I'll let you read it.

[40:31] [laughter]

[40:37] So through you, Mr. Mayor, if I read

[40:39] that um correctly, we'd be installing a

[40:42] fence um further on our property. We

[40:45] would still own some property but not

[40:48] have effective use of it,

[40:50] » Right?

[40:50] » Um so I would I we're not recommending

[40:53] it for that reason because normally if

[40:54] you're going to put fences, you put it

[40:56] on the property line of what?

[40:57] » Normally. Yes.

[40:58] » Yeah. And so, um, I think if if the

[41:03] desire was to maintain the trees, uh,

[41:05] and not cut them down and replace them,

[41:08] but, uh, and allow the individual that

[41:10] planted them to retain ownership, a

[41:12] class 2 land sale is the way to go. Um,

[41:14] because then there is, um, no ambiguity

[41:18] over who owns what.

[41:20] Yeah, I understand kind of, but it would

[41:25] it it seems to me it would save

[41:27] this particular um

[41:31] person that's requesting the trees be

[41:33] saved and giving him land for for a

[41:38] dollar basically is what he's requesting

[41:40] for. Um, and I think we're talking about

[41:42] five feet roughly from what I was

[41:44] looking at over there for a bumpout. I I

[41:48] just think that

[41:50] it's not it's not going to be of any use

[41:53] to him or the town where that fence is.

[41:56] I mean, it's it's only it's only going

[41:58] to go to serve to uh save the trees and

[42:03] and if we sell it to them, it's going to

[42:05] be the same thing. There's going to be a

[42:07] bump out to save the trees. The only

[42:11] thing is it Yeah, you're right. It

[42:12] clarifies who owns it possibly. But when

[42:16] you're talking about 5 ft to save a

[42:18] tree,

[42:20] I I I would think number four would be

[42:23] it would save surveys, money, legal

[42:26] cost. That's all I'm I'm looking at.

[42:29] » Go ahead, Mr. Grant.

[42:30] » So through you, Mr. Mayor, uh point of

[42:31] clarity as well is like uh the trees

[42:33] were planted by the individual, but the

[42:35] tree on our property legally is our

[42:36] tree.

[42:37] » Um

[42:38] » I agree.

[42:39] » Yeah. So um I I would say that

[42:42] » Although excuse me, Mr. Grant, I I

[42:44] looking at it and and I'm not a

[42:47] surveyor, but looking at it, the one

[42:49] looked like it was in on his property.

[42:52] The other one was right on the property

[42:54] line, possibly if you measured with a

[42:57] with a, you know, a GPS instrument. I'm

[43:02] But it's more on town land than it is,

[43:04] but I I'm just, you know,

[43:07] » So

[43:07] » Just to clarify where the trees are

[43:10] » Through you, Mr. Fair enough. Partially

[43:11] our tree.

[43:12] » Yeah. Um, so what I would say is this,

[43:14] like, um, I would look at this with the

[43:17] principle of what would we do for any

[43:18] other property if it wasn't just these

[43:20] trees, but it was some other thing. I

[43:22] think the principle of ownership is

[43:24] something that we would want to

[43:25] maintain. Um, and be really clear about

[43:28] who owns what.

[43:29] » Okay.

[43:30] » Um, only because with land ownership

[43:32] comes responsibilities, comes liability,

[43:34] comes a number of different things. So

[43:36] if it's our intention uh to ensure that

[43:38] the trees can be preserved and owned by

[43:40] the individual then I would go through

[43:43] uh the effort of surveying it out and so

[43:45] the fence is in the proper place and

[43:46] ownership is not in question. Um it's

[43:49] say in the unlikely event that something

[43:51] happened on land that we owned but had

[43:53] no custody over um that puts us in a

[43:57] very precarious position not only in

[43:58] this but in other areas of of land

[44:00] ownership.

[44:04] » Yeah. Thank you, mayor. Through you, uh,

[44:07] Matthew, I I

[44:10] my main concern is to save the trees,

[44:12] but I mean, if we sell 5t of this

[44:15] property and give them a bump out and it

[44:18] costs 5 to7,000, I'm reading their

[44:21] report here uh, to do that. Does do we

[44:25] know if that property owner is prepared

[44:27] to spend that money for like he's asking

[44:30] for for a dollar? I I'm assuming he's

[44:34] not going to want to spend5 to $7,000

[44:37] um legal fees and and um survey. So I

[44:44] guess my my other qu my last question

[44:46] will be if he doesn't buy it because he

[44:49] doesn't want to spend the money, are we

[44:51] going to cut the trees down?

[44:53] Because I'd really hate to see those two

[44:55] trees go.

[44:57] » Thank you. Okay. I won't ask anymore.

[44:59] » So through you, Mr. Mayor, for the

[45:01] record, Council Min, you can ask as many

[45:02] questions as you like. It's why we're

[45:03] here. Um, but so I would say uh a couple

[45:07] of different things. Um, in line with

[45:10] the land sale bylaw and the principles

[45:12] of value for real estate, um, I would

[45:16] always advocate that we sell land for

[45:17] what it's worth and not necessarily what

[45:19] someone wants to pay, per se. Um, there

[45:23] is a value to that land. I'm quite

[45:25] certain it's more than a dollar. Um so

[45:28] uh giving someone for regardless of the

[45:30] purpose uh and how no matter how

[45:32] honorable it is, I think we have an

[45:33] obligation as a municipality uh to

[45:36] steward you know land ownership

[45:38] resources and and and charge what the

[45:40] land is worth. um in the event that we

[45:44] were going to um if a tree had to come

[45:47] down because we're putting a fence on

[45:48] the property line, that's when I believe

[45:51] um that the the policy that was

[45:53] recommended and approved by council for

[45:55] us to bring uh to bring back. Um we

[45:57] would plant two others uh in recognition

[46:01] uh of a healthy tree being removed due

[46:04] to uh the work uh initiated by the town.

[46:08] I I believe that this is something that

[46:10] actually speaks to exactly the intent uh

[46:12] of the policy that councelor Hicks

[46:14] brought forward and council passed that

[46:16] I mean nobody wants to cut down a tree

[46:18] that we don't have to like full stop. We

[46:20] would like we do everything in our power

[46:21] to avoid it. If we were putting a fence

[46:23] on a property land which is the

[46:24] recommended place to put a fence to

[46:26] delineate ownership and it re and it

[46:28] required a tree but maybe not both to be

[46:30] cut down. Um, I would say that we should

[46:33] replant two of the same species in as

[46:36] near a proximity as we could. Uh, that

[46:38] would be my recommendation on that,

[46:39] counselor, if if council doesn't want to

[46:41] have a bump out and and entertain a

[46:43] sale.

[46:44] » Thank you for that, Matthew.

[46:46] » Thanks, Counc.

[46:49] Uh, thank you for your worship. Is David

[46:52] still online or is David gone?

[46:56] » Three, Mr. Mayor. David is not on the

[46:57] line.

[46:58] » Okay. I reached out to him earlier

[46:59] today. I wanted some clarification, but

[47:01] I was just trying to figure out we we

[47:03] did to the neighboring property. I'm

[47:05] trying to find I'd like just

[47:06] verification what we did to sell him

[47:08] that bit of land he wanted to do because

[47:10] we got to we got to kind of stick with

[47:12] our town's best practice. Um in my

[47:15] opinion anyways. Um it is it is a class

[47:19] two land,

[47:21] but we can't uh we can't do one without

[47:25] doing for everyone. So, that's just my

[47:28] uh my way of thinking. And I had one

[47:31] more. These pear trees, I I didn't see

[47:34] here how big they are. Are they Are they

[47:36] something that could be um could have

[47:39] somebody specially come in with a uh a

[47:41] tree spade and relocate these trees? I I

[47:44] don't know how big a pair of tree gets.

[47:45] I I drove by a couple of times. I

[47:47] couldn't see them. So, thank you.

[47:51] » Go ahead, Mr. Grant. See if you can uh

[47:53] » Mr. I I don't know the answer to that,

[47:55] but we can certainly investigate if they

[47:56] can be relocated. Uh in terms of land,

[48:00] um I would say that there's a very clear

[48:02] process um by how council can dispose of

[48:06] uh land that it owns. So, first part of

[48:09] that would be to declare uh a piece of

[48:11] property surplus. You can declare a

[48:13] whole property. You can decide that

[48:15] there's an element of a property and you

[48:16] need to reservey it and and and parcel

[48:19] it out. Um and so if it doesn't have

[48:22] access uh to um you know public roadway

[48:26] or something else uh it would be deemed

[48:27] class two because there's only a few

[48:29] properties that would abut that that

[48:31] could buy that. Um that is a very

[48:33] prescribed process in the land sale

[48:35] bylaw. Um so we would offer that to

[48:37] anyone if they came forward. Normally uh

[48:41] we would only offer surplus lands and

[48:43] extenduating circumstances you would

[48:45] have to declare it surplus. So there'll

[48:46] be uh additional steps towards that. Um

[48:50] and as for uh removing the tree and

[48:53] relocating it, I can certainly uh ask

[48:56] the team um and we could we could come

[48:59] back uh with that information if that's

[49:01] of interest.

[49:06] » Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Grant. I think

[49:08] madam clerk is going to weigh in here, I

[49:10] think. Then I'll go back to you dep.

[49:14] And I I did just want to add to confirm

[49:16] that um I believe it was last year uh

[49:19] council did go through the class 2 land

[49:21] sale process with the neighbor um and

[49:23] that uh property owner purchased the

[49:26] land from the town at the set value in

[49:28] the policy and was responsible for all

[49:30] the legal transfer fees for that

[49:31] transaction.

[49:34] » Thank you, Madam Clerk. That's been very

[49:36] helpful. Go ahead, Deputy May.

[49:38] » Uh thank you, your worship. I I I

[49:40] thought that's what we what had taken

[49:41] place. I just was looking for a

[49:43] refresher and then thank you madam clerk

[49:44] for that. Um yeah m uh Mr. Grant I'd

[49:49] like to see some sort of report brought

[49:51] back before we make any decisions as to

[49:53] if if these trees could be movable and

[49:56] what the cost would be at that. I mean,

[49:58] um, if we go with what we've laid out in

[50:01] past, which I believe we should stick to

[50:02] what we've done in the past, uh, class 2

[50:05] lands, you're saying it's worth

[50:07] approximately $890,

[50:09] but then the cost to do the transfer of

[50:11] the, um, surveys and stuff could be

[50:14] between 5 and 7,000. That's a a big

[50:17] chunk to pay for a little land to save a

[50:18] couple of trees if, in fact, for maybe

[50:21] $2,000, they can be plucked from the

[50:23] ground and and replanted. I don't know.

[50:25] just worth looking at every option

[50:27] before we just decide to throw this out.

[50:29] Thank you.

[50:30] » Thank you, Mayor G. Mr. Grant.

[50:34] » So, through you, Mr. Mayor. If that be

[50:36] the will of council, I would recommend a

[50:38] motion on that to uh direct that staff

[50:41] go and and find out uh if it is feasible

[50:43] to relocate the trees and then come back

[50:46] and and address this at another

[50:47] » [clears throat]

[50:47] » Uh at another time.

[50:50] » Uh thank you, Mr. Crank. Go ahead,

[50:51] Councelor Shank. Now, Matthew, this this

[50:54] might like sound a simple question, but

[50:58] uh

[51:00] did he not own

[51:03] that land where those trees are

[51:06] or they were with all the subdivision

[51:08] and with the Mil House pond and

[51:09] everything else and the lot line ended

[51:11] up being there? I'm just trying to get

[51:13] in my mind why did he plant the trees so

[51:16] close

[51:18] to the lot line if he wanted to keep

[51:20] your line? if he wanted to keep the

[51:22] trees and he planted them, why wouldn't

[51:23] he plant them further on his own

[51:25] property?

[51:27] » So, for you, Mr. Mayor, I don't know

[51:29] that I can speak to the mindset of

[51:30] someone else and and choices that they

[51:32] made. Um, what I will say is it's not

[51:35] terribly unusual for people not to be

[51:37] 100% familiar with where lot lines are.

[51:40] We've we've had other cases where

[51:42] structures have been built, fences have

[51:44] been built, that sort of So my so what

[51:46] my what I'm trying to understand is is

[51:48] that why would the municipality change a

[51:51] boundary line when so therefore you I

[51:55] mean where somebody else planted some

[51:57] trees all right I'm sorry if you wanted

[52:00] to keep those trees you put it on

[52:02] yourself but also his one of his

[52:04] requests are that if you have to take

[52:05] him out he'd like to get paid $400 a

[52:07] tree.

[52:09] All right. So, all I'm saying is is

[52:12] it doesn't, you know, I don't understand

[52:14] what you where you guys are going. Like,

[52:16] if I wanted to plant some trees, I would

[52:18] make sure that they're on my own

[52:18] property. All right? I can't complain

[52:20] about it afterwards when go, "Oh, so

[52:22] bad. They're mature trees. I want you to

[52:24] pay because it's not on my I planted

[52:25] them not on my own property." So, uh,

[52:29] good fences, good neighbors. So, I don't

[52:33] know why you want to go down through.

[52:35] I'm not willing to sell. It's the

[52:38] people's. It's it's not your own

[52:40] individual land. It's the taxpayers's

[52:42] land that 5T. It could be used for

[52:44] trail. It could be used for other things

[52:46] that whatever it might be. All right.

[52:49] For that cost because somebody planted

[52:51] trees on your own land on not his own

[52:53] land. All right? So

[52:57] I don't understand the rationale behind

[52:58] this whole thing. So as far as I'm

[53:00] concerned, you know, this is where the

[53:01] fence is going and everything else. And

[53:02] if it happens to be on the edge, well be

[53:04] on the edge. If he wants to move them,

[53:06] he can move them. We'll let we'll grant

[53:07] him that. But that's where the fence is

[53:09] going. Have a nice day. You're going to

[53:11] have to buy a couple more trees and

[53:12] we're not paying you $400 cuz we hit the

[53:14] tree because you planted them on the

[53:16] wrong side of the property. You know,

[53:18] like

[53:20] that's just that's the way I look at it.

[53:22] Maybe I'm the bad boy, but that's the

[53:24] facts.

[53:25] » Yeah. Go ahead, Mr. Grant.

[53:28] » Uh so it's you, Mr. Mayor. Uh at this

[53:30] point in the evening, I'm going to

[53:31] remind Michael that he owes me $50. Um,

[53:34] [laughter]

[53:36] but what what I would say is I won't

[53:38] dispute your logic, counselor. I I won't

[53:40] um I uh the land in question is ours.

[53:45] The incumbrance uh on the lot line that

[53:48] is ours uh we didn't put there. Uh I

[53:51] would not be in favor of renumerating

[53:53] somebody um for infringing on property

[53:56] that isn't theirs. Um I think if the

[54:00] trees can be moved, fair enough. I don't

[54:02] disagree that we offer the opportunity

[54:04] for someone else to remove the trees and

[54:06] pay for that. But what I would say is is

[54:10] council has already

[54:12] um created a mechanism by which we would

[54:17] ensure uh tree canopy in perpetuity. So

[54:21] if we have to remove a tree and and

[54:23] we're working on this as we speak, we

[54:25] will plant two trees uh in the absence

[54:28] and we would do that with any uh the

[54:31] policy would be such that we would do

[54:32] that with any tree that is removed that

[54:34] is healthy um and is removed because we

[54:37] are doing work um will replace them. Um

[54:41] and I think that would uh be here and

[54:44] and if council wants to sell the

[54:46] property they can. If they don't want to

[54:47] sell the property they don't have to.

[54:49] Um,

[54:51] yeah, I'll leave it there.

[54:54] » Councelor Martin.

[54:55] » Thank you, Mayor. Um,

[54:58] I don't think anybody is advocating we

[55:00] sell him that land for a dollar like he

[55:02] wanted. He should pay the same as

[55:05] everybody else does for class 2 land. Um

[55:08] but

[55:11] um counselor Shank I I think in town a

[55:16] lot of people eyeball their lot line and

[55:18] they'll print shrubs and trees on it and

[55:21] I got a feeling that's what happened

[55:22] with these but 15 20 years ago and it

[55:26] wasn't intentional to put it on town

[55:28] land. It was he was probably thought he

[55:30] was putting it on his own land. So, it's

[55:33] that close. If you look at that that uh

[55:36] sketch, it looks like the one tree is

[55:38] right on the red line and the other

[55:40] one's just inside on it. So, anyway,

[55:43] just just wanted to add that. And and um

[55:46] like I say, nobody's advocating we do

[55:49] what he wants to sell it to him for a

[55:51] dollar. Um absolutely not. And uh we

[55:55] certainly wouldn't pay him $400 per tree

[55:58] either, but uh that's just what he

[56:00] wanted asking. doesn't mean we should.

[56:05] » Thank you. Uh, councelor Martin, uh,

[56:08] councelor David

[56:10] » Through you, mayor. Um, I guess looking

[56:12] at it, the way I see that chunk of

[56:14] ground, like it doesn't look like it

[56:15] carries a whole lot of value for the

[56:17] town itself as far as that retention

[56:19] pond area and whatnot. There's still

[56:20] room to do more work in there. So, like

[56:23] staff recommendation, bump the fence to

[56:26] east, make a make an offer of fair fair

[56:29] market value, pay that. If he's not

[56:31] interested, give him the chance to move

[56:32] the trees under his own dollar. Other

[56:34] otherwise, we'll look after it. The

[56:36] fence is going where it was initially

[56:38] intended and the trees will have to be

[56:40] moved and we'll plant four new trees on

[56:42] the retention pond property and and move

[56:44] on. It seems fairly straightforward to

[56:46] me and that's a I don't know, that's

[56:48] just how I see it.

[56:52] » Thank you, Councelor Davey. I think you

[56:53] might have took some of the words out of

[56:54] my mouth here, so thank you for that.

[56:56] Um, is there anything else?

[57:00] uh saying that and I'll just weigh in

[57:01] briefly. I mean I I like uh like what

[57:03] Sean had to say is is that we've got a

[57:05] process. We got it to and and we we've

[57:08] literally just gone through that process

[57:11] probably

[57:12] uh months prior to where it's a very

[57:14] similar type of thing where there's a

[57:16] small sliver piece of land. It it made

[57:17] sense to to sell it to the neighboring

[57:20] land owners. It's a class two piece of

[57:22] property. Um, and so it made sense, but

[57:25] that loan landowner at the time decided

[57:28] that they were going to pay the cost to

[57:30] get that it was worth him. It was worth

[57:32] that cost to do that. So, I don't think

[57:35] we should venture too far away from

[57:36] that. So, um, I I like what Sean has to

[57:39] say is that we we we direct staff that

[57:42] we say, listen, this it is a a type two

[57:45] or class two piece of property. This is

[57:47] what the rules are around that. will

[57:49] give you that opportunity to buy that 5

[57:50] ft. But that's your responsibility to do

[57:53] that. And and he's he's going to make a

[57:56] decision, I think, as to whether that's

[57:59] going to be worth it or not. If it's not

[58:01] worth it, and we need to take the the

[58:02] trees out of there, then uh you know,

[58:04] we'll do what we do best, which is we'll

[58:06] make good for it because we'll plant two

[58:08] trees for every tree that we take down

[58:09] because that's what we said we're going

[58:10] to do. Um but I think we we put uh we

[58:14] give the the landowner the opportunity.

[58:16] I I know that I think he planted those

[58:17] trees 15 20 years ago. Um um he he seems

[58:22] to be attached to those trees, but we

[58:24] give him the opportunity to take uh to

[58:26] to buy that silver land. Um and and and

[58:29] we have to keep in mind that if that's

[58:30] the direction that we're going to go, we

[58:31] still do have to go through the the

[58:33] surplus property. So there there is some

[58:35] time left here to go through this that

[58:37] um uh if anybody has a change of heart,

[58:41] then we can still deal with it. So, um I

[58:43] I like uh the first option there, which

[58:46] is to proceed with the next steps uh uh

[58:49] for the class 2 piece of property. Uh in

[58:51] that amount of time, it will give him

[58:53] the opportunity and us the opportunity

[58:54] as well to see whether or not it's these

[58:57] trees can be um can be removed and and

[58:59] if they are, then that's great. And if

[59:01] they can't be, then uh um at least we'll

[59:03] get the landowner the opportunity to to

[59:05] do that. So, um that would be my

[59:07] suggestion. And uh um I have it as I

[59:12] think madam clerk is the first option

[59:13] that we have and and okay thank you uh

[59:16] councelor Davey and I think hearing is

[59:19] that council direct staff to proceed

[59:21] with the next steps in the consideration

[59:22] of the class 2 property sale with no

[59:24] reduction to the established valuation

[59:26] rate for class 2 land sales and a final

[59:29] decision regarding whether to declare

[59:31] the land as surplus and approve a class

[59:33] 2 sale be made following the public

[59:36] notice period. So we do have to go ahead

[59:38] madam cler

[59:40] » Through your worship we do and I I

[59:42] recognize that I wrote that earlier

[59:43] today but on reflection

[59:46] if the land owner is not willing to pay

[59:48] any money for this uh the town may not

[59:51] want to bother um doing that public

[59:54] notice and incurring those expenses. So

[59:56] it may be prudent to direct staff to

[59:59] advise um the land owner of council's

[1:00:02] direction and if he's amendable to

[1:00:04] proceeding then we do the public notice.

[1:00:06] Um

[1:00:08] » And and I I guess again once again I

[1:00:10] assumed and I shouldn't assumed I

[1:00:12] assumed that probably staff would come

[1:00:13] back to us and say listen uh the

[1:00:15] landowner doesn't want to do that. So um

[1:00:18] maybe we we bring this back to council.

[1:00:20] So um did you wish to reward that uh

[1:00:23] that uh recommendation or do we just add

[1:00:26] that on the bottom of this one?

[1:00:39] » [clears throat]

[1:00:43] » I guess the easy thing is is that we we

[1:00:45] give uh staff direction to um

[1:00:48] » To communicate

[1:00:49] » To communicate council's uh um direction

[1:00:52] to the land owner and then to bring back

[1:00:55] a report at a future date once we have

[1:00:58] uh the direction from the land owner as

[1:01:00] to how he would like to try and proceed

[1:01:02] with this.

[1:01:03] And I know that Madame Clerk can word

[1:01:06] Smith this much better than I did.

[1:01:21] So through your I think we could have

[1:01:23] the council direct staff to communicate

[1:01:25] that the town is willing to initiate the

[1:01:27] class 2 land sale process with no

[1:01:29] reduction to the established evaluation

[1:01:31] rate for class 2 land sales.

[1:01:33] um and to uh report back to council on

[1:01:38] the response from the land owner as well

[1:01:40] as feasibility of tree relocation if

[1:01:43] council wanted to include that as well.

[1:01:45] » Yeah. And and I think so I think uh in

[1:01:47] order to do our due diligence I think we

[1:01:49] can put that in there as well. So

[1:01:53] councelor Davyy is that sort of how our

[1:01:56] conversation went? I think through

[1:01:58] » You may yes that sounds good to me.

[1:01:59] » Perfect. And we do have a secondary and

[1:02:01] council shank. Is there any further

[1:02:04] comments, questions, or concerns with

[1:02:06] respect to that motion that's on the

[1:02:07] floor?

[1:02:09] Seeing none, all in favor of the motion

[1:02:11] that's on the floor? Opposed? The

[1:02:13] motion's carried. Thank you. Uh,

[1:02:15] everyone, uh, moving on to growth and

[1:02:18] infrastructure zoning GIS mapping

[1:02:20] enhancement.

[1:02:22] And this matter, I believe, is going to

[1:02:24] be deferred, madam clerk, to the 22nd of

[1:02:26] September meeting. Am I correct there?

[1:02:28] through your ship. Yes, that's correct.

[1:02:30] » Okay, we'll put that under unfinished

[1:02:32] business. And that takes us into the

[1:02:33] administrative consent agenda.

[1:02:37] Start off council minutes. Regular

[1:02:38] session of council July 28th, 2026.

[1:02:41] Special session of council August 11th,

[1:02:43] 2026. Is there anything in those

[1:02:45] anything in those minutes that anyone

[1:02:47] would like to uh have any discussions or

[1:02:50] comments about?

[1:02:52] Seeing none, uh, recreation advisory

[1:02:54] committee, trail uh, development

[1:02:57] advisory committee, waste diversion

[1:02:59] committee, the market square advisory

[1:03:00] committee. Is there anything in those

[1:03:02] minutes that anyone had any questions or

[1:03:03] comments about? And uh, go ahead,

[1:03:05] councelor Martin.

[1:03:06] » Thank you, mayor. um

[1:03:13] the um in the waste diversion minutes.

[1:03:16] Plus, I wanted to make an announcement

[1:03:18] about the uh um what we'll be doing um

[1:03:22] September the 12th.

[1:03:24] Um

[1:03:27] here at town hall, we'll be giving out

[1:03:29] blue boxes. The waste diversion

[1:03:31] committee is going to set up um um a

[1:03:34] table with uh information brochures on

[1:03:38] uh the new items that can be recycled.

[1:03:40] And uh also uh like I say, we're going

[1:03:43] to give out uh blue box containers to

[1:03:46] the first 100 people that come that day

[1:03:49] to to receive them. That's all we have

[1:03:51] to give out. So I just I just want to

[1:03:53] stipulate that everybody's not going to

[1:03:55] get one. If they're 101, they're going

[1:03:58] to be out of luck, I'm afraid. But uh um

[1:04:01] it's it's going to be uh September the

[1:04:04] 12th here at the market square and uh

[1:04:06] the diversion committee, myself

[1:04:08] included, will be set up here and uh

[1:04:11] we'll we'll uh try to um encourage you

[1:04:15] to do more recycling. Um if you want to

[1:04:17] talk to us about ideas about uh

[1:04:19] composting, uh anything you want to talk

[1:04:22] about, we'll be here to discuss it. But

[1:04:24] uh hopefully you'll show up on the 12th

[1:04:27] of September. Um the market, farmers

[1:04:30] market will be going at the same time.

[1:04:32] We may be set up at the back, we may be

[1:04:34] at the front. We're not uh 100% sure of

[1:04:37] that, but uh we will be here. So I just

[1:04:40] wanted to make that announcement first

[1:04:41] of all.

[1:04:43] Um that's all I had on the waste

[1:04:45] diversion

[1:04:47] uh committee. May there

[1:04:49] » Great thanks uh council Martin, deputy

[1:04:51] mayor.

[1:04:53] » Uh thank you your worship. Uh so

[1:04:56] speaking on behalf of the uh trail

[1:04:57] development advisory committee um we've

[1:05:00] got off uh got off our first meeting uh

[1:05:04] both feet hitting the ground and running

[1:05:05] and our second meeting we just held.

[1:05:07] We've uh appointed a chair and a uh

[1:05:10] deputy or vice chair and we've come up

[1:05:13] with some really good ideas which I

[1:05:14] think will be coming back to council uh

[1:05:17] some coming back this evening for uh

[1:05:19] some of the recommendations that we've

[1:05:20] come up with and I just wanted to say

[1:05:23] that uh this trail [clears throat]

[1:05:25] committee is uh it's just an honor to be

[1:05:28] sitting on it and working with them

[1:05:30] because everybody's all rowing in the

[1:05:33] same direction. It's it's just a

[1:05:34] fabulous group of people we've put

[1:05:36] together for this. Thank you.

[1:05:38] » Great. Thanks, uh, Deputy Mayor Coll. Go

[1:05:40] ahead, Council Martin.

[1:05:42] » Thank you, Mayor. Um, just on on the

[1:05:44] trails, u portion there, I'm with the

[1:05:48] sensitive use. Um, I I just wanted to

[1:05:51] get uh Madame Clerk's opinion on that if

[1:05:54] I could.

[1:05:56] » Through your staff report later this

[1:05:58] evening where we can discuss that.

[1:06:01] » Okay. Okay. because I I was just

[1:06:03] curious, but I know the committee's

[1:06:05] suggesting uh it be added to our uh to

[1:06:08] our bylaw. So, I just I'm I'm always

[1:06:12] concerned about the homeless situation

[1:06:13] in um in Springside Park. So, I'm I'm

[1:06:17] finding, you know, if a trail can be

[1:06:20] designated sensitive use, certainly our

[1:06:22] park can be too. So, I'm just that's

[1:06:25] where I'm going with this. I'll I'll

[1:06:26] leave it at that, though.

[1:06:28] » Yeah. We'll uh we're going to circle

[1:06:29] back to that bill. We're gonna have a

[1:06:30] discussion about that. So um that's

[1:06:32] probably the best place to to deal with

[1:06:34] that. So um is there anything else with

[1:06:37] respect to the committee minutes?

[1:06:40] Seeing none uh correspondence for

[1:06:43] information items dated August 25th,

[1:06:45] 2026. Is there anything in those

[1:06:47] correspondence anyone would like to pull

[1:06:49] out or have a conversation about or draw

[1:06:51] attention to? Seeing none, uh

[1:06:54] proclamation request National British

[1:06:56] Home Child Day. Uh, is there anything in

[1:06:58] that uh report that anyone would like to

[1:07:01] say anything about? And uh go ahead,

[1:07:02] Bill.

[1:07:03] » Thank you, Mayor. Um,

[1:07:06] again, I um I want to thank the mayor

[1:07:09] and council for for actually doing the

[1:07:12] proclamation. It's it's always my uh

[1:07:16] privilege and I I because of my personal

[1:07:20] situation with my own dad being one of

[1:07:22] the British home children. Um

[1:07:26] I always every year uh enjoy doing this

[1:07:29] uh to to honor not just my dad but there

[1:07:33] was thousands of people that came and

[1:07:35] settled right in the Napony and Alana

[1:07:38] area. So, I just want to honor the those

[1:07:42] people who who, like I say, settled here

[1:07:44] in Napony. And right now, there's

[1:07:46] literally I think there's four or five

[1:07:48] million people in Canada um that are

[1:07:52] descendants of uh the British home

[1:07:55] children. So, um

[1:07:58] again, my porch light will be on uh

[1:08:01] September 28th. And uh I I'm I'm very

[1:08:05] proud and happy that uh everybody is uh

[1:08:08] doing this proclamation. Thank you,

[1:08:09] Mayor.

[1:08:10] » Great. Thanks, uh Council Martin.

[1:08:13] Greatly appreciate it. And again, it's

[1:08:14] always nice to uh hear firsthand

[1:08:17] knowledge. Sometimes we see the

[1:08:18] proclamations, they come in and and and

[1:08:21] their words on paper sometimes, but it's

[1:08:22] nice to hear the real life stuff. So,

[1:08:24] thank you for that. Um the executive

[1:08:27] services activity report, August 2026.

[1:08:29] Is there anything in that executive

[1:08:31] services report that anyone had any

[1:08:32] questions or comments about?

[1:08:35] Seeing none, uh the greater napony fire

[1:08:38] department activity report July 22nd to

[1:08:40] August 2nd, 2026. Is there anything in

[1:08:42] that report anybody had any questions or

[1:08:44] comments about? Councelor Shank.

[1:08:46] » Uh uh with great delight. uh our fire

[1:08:50] chief Sean uh our fire chief has come up

[1:08:53] with maybe a solution to solve you know

[1:08:55] the alarm activations and especially and

[1:08:57] the burn complaints which is 31 out of

[1:08:59] the 58 calls that I assume that came out

[1:09:02] of that area. So uh when I got the

[1:09:04] recent email I went that's my chief. So

[1:09:08] uh I just want to say kudos to you

[1:09:10] looking at alternative ways of you know

[1:09:12] what I mean of what we can do and what

[1:09:13] we can't do to save things and and still

[1:09:15] provide a a top-notch product. So, thank

[1:09:18] you.

[1:09:20] » Great. Thanks, Councelor Shank. Um,

[1:09:24] parks, recreation, and culture activity

[1:09:26] report. Is there anything in that report

[1:09:27] anyone had any questions or comments

[1:09:29] about?

[1:09:31] Seeing none, um, financial and IT

[1:09:34] services activity uh, activity report

[1:09:37] for August of 2026. And, uh, go ahead,

[1:09:40] councelor or deputy mayau.

[1:09:42] » Actually, uh, worship, I did want to

[1:09:44] speak on the parks and recreation. Um, I

[1:09:47] just wanted to thank uh Mr. Brown and

[1:09:50] his staff. I see the works underway uh

[1:09:52] to do the to the repair on the uh town

[1:09:55] dock and that's great to see it. It's a

[1:09:57] I know it's been a very trying uh time

[1:09:59] to get any work done on that um due to

[1:10:01] high waters and busy schedules of

[1:10:03] everybody involved. I want to say thank

[1:10:05] you very much for getting it going.

[1:10:08] » Great. Thanks uh deputy mayor Calvert.

[1:10:10] Uh so the financial and IT services uh

[1:10:12] activity report is that report that uh

[1:10:15] anyone had any questions or comments

[1:10:17] about I'm sure Mr. Grant will be able to

[1:10:19] help us out on that one too maybe.

[1:10:23] Uh seeing none um the access E11 July

[1:10:27] 2026 report. Is there anything in that

[1:10:29] report that anyone had any questions or

[1:10:30] comments about?

[1:10:32] Seeing none. So we'll look for a motion

[1:10:34] that the minutes of the regular session

[1:10:37] of council Jul dated July 28th, 2026 and

[1:10:40] the special session of council dated

[1:10:42] August 11th, 2026 be adopted as

[1:10:43] presented. That the minutes of the

[1:10:44] recreation advisory committee, trailer

[1:10:46] development advisory committee, waste

[1:10:47] diversion committee uh Marco Square

[1:10:50] Advisory Committee of July 2026

[1:10:53] and August to August 13, 2026 be

[1:10:56] received for information that the

[1:10:57] correspondence for information items

[1:10:58] dated August 25th, 2026 be received. The

[1:11:01] council endorsed the proclamation

[1:11:03] request for the National British Home

[1:11:05] Child Day and that the activity reports

[1:11:07] for executive services, financial and IT

[1:11:09] services, fire department and parks and

[1:11:11] reculture for the month of August 2026

[1:11:14] and the access E11 report for July 2026

[1:11:16] items 8.6 through 8.10 be received for

[1:11:20] information. Moved by councelor Davyy,

[1:11:22] second by councelor Shank. If there's no

[1:11:24] further comments, questions or concerns,

[1:11:26] all in favor of that motion? Motion's

[1:11:28] carried. items for consideration. I

[1:11:31] don't believe we have any of those,

[1:11:33] madame clerk, if I'm not mistaken. So,

[1:11:37] um, that gets us into the executive

[1:11:38] services grass bylaw compliance order

[1:11:41] 0307.

[1:11:43] And madam clerk, you're going to speak

[1:11:44] to this

[1:12:05] Good evening, your worship and members

[1:12:07] of council. Um, at the July 28th

[1:12:10] meeting, council heard a deputation and

[1:12:13] requested a report back. So, the report

[1:12:16] before you covers a number of areas.

[1:12:18] that covers the um specific context of

[1:12:21] this order in question. Um as well as

[1:12:26] the enforcement of the grass bylaw in

[1:12:28] greater Napony more broadly. Um staff do

[1:12:31] note that we are seeing a we're seeing

[1:12:34] an increasing trend across the board in

[1:12:36] requests for enforcement of bylaws as

[1:12:39] people become more familiar with using

[1:12:42] the E11 tool to submit requests. Um but

[1:12:45] grass does remain one of our

[1:12:47] consistently in our top five areas where

[1:12:50] residents request um enforcement action

[1:12:53] to be taken. Um

[1:12:57] staff do acknowledge that the bylaw is

[1:13:00] over 25 years old. When we look at our

[1:13:02] other comparators, it's it's definitely

[1:13:04] the oldest um bylaw in that list and we

[1:13:07] would recommend that it be looked at.

[1:13:10] However, because it it affects everyone,

[1:13:13] and we know that there's very strong

[1:13:16] feelings and opinions about what's

[1:13:18] important to have in a grass bylaw, we

[1:13:20] think it's really important to do

[1:13:21] extensive um public consultation and get

[1:13:24] community input um for for a council to

[1:13:27] hear what the residents of Greater

[1:13:29] Napony feel is important to them to have

[1:13:31] in a grass bylaw, which is why we

[1:13:33] recommend um that that decision be a

[1:13:37] recommendation that the next term of

[1:13:39] council look at it very early, ideally

[1:13:41] before the next enforcement season

[1:13:43] begins, but that that not be something

[1:13:45] that we try to rush through uh in the

[1:13:49] last couple months of this term. Um just

[1:13:52] because it is

[1:13:54] just about every property in town has

[1:13:56] some form of grass on it and so it's

[1:13:58] something a lot of people we should give

[1:14:00] them the opportunity to to participate

[1:14:03] in that conversation.

[1:14:05] Um

[1:14:07] we do discuss the um

[1:14:11] the decision that was made by the

[1:14:12] superior court earlier this year. Um

[1:14:16] where there is a charter right around

[1:14:18] personal expression uh that can be made

[1:14:21] through lawns particularly through the

[1:14:23] decision to naturalize lawns which

[1:14:25] speaks to personal values. Um the

[1:14:27] court's decision really indicated that

[1:14:29] if a municipality is is going to enforce

[1:14:32] a grass bylaw, it needs to be able to um

[1:14:36] have policy reasons why that is

[1:14:38] necessary as well as ensuring that it

[1:14:40] has taken a a minimally impairing

[1:14:44] approach. Um

[1:14:48] lots of Ontario municipalities are still

[1:14:50] working through what exactly that means

[1:14:52] in their specific local contexts. Um, we

[1:14:56] do note in the report that eastern

[1:14:58] Ontario does have a higher prevalence of

[1:15:00] Lyme disease and blacklegged ticks than

[1:15:02] maybe other areas of the province. And

[1:15:04] that is certainly a valid consideration

[1:15:06] in a grass bylaw as well as um making

[1:15:10] sure that

[1:15:13] a lot of bylaw enforcement is making

[1:15:15] sure that neighbors can live with each

[1:15:17] other. uh that one person's right to use

[1:15:19] their own property doesn't um cause

[1:15:22] negative impacts or unreasonably

[1:15:24] negative impacts to the people uh who

[1:15:27] are also living in that same area. Um

[1:15:33] again, there's several options here

[1:15:35] before council for consideration. Um

[1:15:38] whether you want to tackle updating this

[1:15:41] bylaw now, defer that to the next term

[1:15:42] of council, and whether what you want to

[1:15:44] do with this specific order. um whether

[1:15:48] it be set aside for the remainder of

[1:15:50] this year with an understanding that the

[1:15:53] property will that's not an exemption

[1:15:55] forever and the property will be subject

[1:15:56] to whatever new rules may or may not

[1:16:00] come into effect in the future. Um

[1:16:04] but staff are happy to respond any

[1:16:07] questions the council may have on this.

[1:16:10] » Great. Thanks uh madam clerk. Uh who

[1:16:12] wants to start?

[1:16:15] You're

[1:16:16] » Yeah. Go ahead. Councelor Shank,

[1:16:17] » That has to be addressed. All right. The

[1:16:20] key is is with the bylaw,

[1:16:23] what one does, everybody has to do. What

[1:16:26] I find is that I I'm in agreement with

[1:16:29] the staff recommendation under one point

[1:16:31] that I think we should reduce is the

[1:16:34] buffer zone from 15 ft to 10 ft. This

[1:16:37] alleviates any other min any other areas

[1:16:40] of naturalization that we currently

[1:16:42] have. All right. that's bordering to

[1:16:45] somebody that wants to keep their lawn

[1:16:48] as as a lawn. All right? So, you don't

[1:16:50] have that [clears throat] grass or weeds

[1:16:52] or whatever it might be over on that

[1:16:55] property. So, a 10-ft buffer, what

[1:16:57] they're suggesting, I feel is a very

[1:16:59] much of a compromise. And in the

[1:17:01] meantime, over the winter time in the

[1:17:04] new council, Jessica will be coming up

[1:17:06] and drafting a new bylaw, something that

[1:17:08] is

[1:17:10] palatable for everybody, whether they're

[1:17:13] the new council wants to have no

[1:17:15] naturalization or some naturalization or

[1:17:19] what they would like, but it gives

[1:17:20] everybody in the municipality

[1:17:23] that can have a voice towards it and go

[1:17:26] through that.

[1:17:27] So everybody will have a say whether

[1:17:29] they do or they don't. Do they does the

[1:17:31] municipality want it or not want it? All

[1:17:33] right. So this is kind of a happy

[1:17:35] medium. So as far as I'm concerned, uh

[1:17:39] it's a fair approach. I agree with the

[1:17:41] municipality, but all we're asking for

[1:17:44] is a 10 ft buffer zone that with the

[1:17:48] reasons what uh just get already done.

[1:17:51] So and I'll move that staff

[1:17:53] recommendation.

[1:17:55] » Yeah. Great. Thanks. Uh, thanks

[1:17:57] councelor Shank. We'll see if anyone

[1:17:58] else wants to weigh in. I'll weigh in

[1:17:59] and then I'll look I'll come back to you

[1:18:01] for that uh for that motion. So, um, is

[1:18:05] there anything else before I weigh in?

[1:18:10] Uh, councelor Martin. Thank you, Mayor.

[1:18:13] Um,

[1:18:16] just just the fact that we're going to

[1:18:18] be reviewing our bylaw and producing a

[1:18:22] new bylaw, I'm assuming, although maybe

[1:18:24] not. Maybe it'll be the same as the old

[1:18:26] one, but I just think if there's going

[1:18:27] to be a staff review,

[1:18:30] um, this order to mow should be

[1:18:33] suspended and until that's done and we

[1:18:36] have a new bylaw in place. So, that

[1:18:39] would be my recommendation. Uh, I know

[1:18:41] it's not staff recommendation, but uh,

[1:18:43] that's my recommendation. I I I

[1:18:47] just feel that um, naturalization has to

[1:18:51] has to have some weight in this. Um,

[1:18:55] some people uh I know are worried about

[1:18:58] ticks, but I I and they're worried about

[1:19:01] noxious weeds. But sometimes

[1:19:05] sometimes you have to go beyond

[1:19:08] those things to I mean it's very

[1:19:10] important that we also have pollination

[1:19:13] with our bees and with our butterflies.

[1:19:15] It's so I I'm the opposite of some

[1:19:18] people's view on this and uh I would

[1:19:21] just recommend right like I say

[1:19:23] suspending this order temporarily until

[1:19:27] it's reviewed and a new ballot comes

[1:19:29] forward. That's that's about the best I

[1:19:31] can say right now. Thank you.

[1:19:34] » Great. Thanks uh councelor Martin. Go

[1:19:35] ahead councelor.

[1:19:37] » Um just briefly uh I pretty well agree

[1:19:40] with councelor Martin. We have to look

[1:19:42] at each case. As we've said with the

[1:19:44] wetlands and whatnot that the case by

[1:19:47] case, this is not the same. This this

[1:19:50] this lady's piece of property I want to

[1:19:52] look at is not the same as Robert and

[1:19:53] Water Street. That is a mess. That

[1:19:56] should be cut. But they can't say now

[1:19:59] that's a wild land cuz it's not. That's

[1:20:00] just one example. So she's done

[1:20:03] something proper. I think we she should

[1:20:04] be put on hold until a new bylaw comes

[1:20:06] out. And uh again look at them case by

[1:20:09] case. That's that's my opinion. Great.

[1:20:12] Thanks, uh, councelor Nori. Um, is there

[1:20:14] anything else? Uh, before I weigh in,

[1:20:19] uh, seeing none, I, uh, I, I, I, I, I,

[1:20:22] I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

[1:20:22] I, I, I have to agree with Councelor

[1:20:23] Shank. Um, I I think what we're doing

[1:20:26] here is taking a very measured approach.

[1:20:30] I don't think we are in a position to

[1:20:33] completely discredit

[1:20:35] the risk of the blacklegged tick.

[1:20:39] And the reason I say that is is because

[1:20:41] back in it's become a

[1:20:46] public safety issue at some point

[1:20:48] because um back in April of 2025,

[1:20:53] the Southeastern Health Unit put out a

[1:20:57] release that identified that the risk of

[1:21:00] encountering the blacklegged ticks. And

[1:21:02] I I'll just read parts of it. And and I

[1:21:04] know that there's uh there's folks out

[1:21:05] there that have the ability to find

[1:21:07] this, but the risk of encountering

[1:21:09] blacklegged ticks in the southeast

[1:21:10] region, which where we are, is very high

[1:21:13] compared to the rest of the province. So

[1:21:16] it's it's we're in a part of the the

[1:21:18] world that this is a very prevalent

[1:21:20] public health issue. Uh that was in

[1:21:22] April of 2025. In May of 2026, uh they

[1:21:26] they've released again the health unit,

[1:21:29] the the the Southeastern Health Unit has

[1:21:31] released and said that the warm weather

[1:21:32] is here. The Southeast Public Health

[1:21:34] Unit is reminding residents that the

[1:21:36] region is an established high risk for

[1:21:39] blacklegged ticks. So, they've they've

[1:21:43] reconfirmed that we have an issue here.

[1:21:46] we have a problem here that uh that

[1:21:48] [clears throat] we all know has the

[1:21:50] ability to to to spread the the Lyme

[1:21:53] disease.

[1:21:55] throughout um throughout my readings, I

[1:21:58] was able to obviously I I went on to the

[1:22:01] the province of Ontario's website um

[1:22:04] that talks about um ticks, Lyme disease,

[1:22:08] uh avoiding uh tick bites and and and

[1:22:12] the link is is within I I thank Madam

[1:22:14] Clerk because Madame Clerk has been so

[1:22:16] gracious to put that link in the staff

[1:22:19] report that we've seen in that uh so

[1:22:21] when you go to the link and you click

[1:22:22] it, it talks about maintaining your

[1:22:24] property And it says you can help keep

[1:22:26] blacklegged ticks away from your

[1:22:28] property by and the first note is

[1:22:31] keeping grass mode short.

[1:22:35] So it's [clears throat] very highly d uh

[1:22:38] documented that um

[1:22:42] we have a problem here. it's a

[1:22:43] high-risisk area and and that's uh one

[1:22:46] of the ways in order to to remedy the

[1:22:48] problem and it's not going to make I

[1:22:50] think we're all not uh [sighs]

[1:22:52] naive enough to know that it's not going

[1:22:54] to completely but it's going to mitigate

[1:22:57] the problem with with the blacklegged

[1:22:58] ticks is is to keep some grass cut. So

[1:23:01] we as a council have to consider and and

[1:23:05] we are we're taking into consideration

[1:23:06] the naturalization. I think we are

[1:23:08] because uh uh we we've we've seen the uh

[1:23:11] the case law at least I have and I've

[1:23:13] read through the case law and the case

[1:23:14] law is somewhat helpful but it's not

[1:23:17] completely helpful because the case law

[1:23:20] doesn't address public health or safety

[1:23:22] issues which I'm assuming in the city of

[1:23:24] Missaga they don't have the same issues

[1:23:26] that we do at the in the town of Greater

[1:23:28] Napony or in the southeast health unit

[1:23:30] area catchment area. So um while it's

[1:23:33] helpful, it it is case law that uh we we

[1:23:36] have to be cognizant of, but it doesn't

[1:23:39] completely cover the issues that we have

[1:23:41] here. And I think uh um we have to keep

[1:23:44] in mind that there is a public health

[1:23:46] issue with respect to the blacklegged

[1:23:48] ticks and the Lyme disease in our in our

[1:23:50] catchment area. So how are we going to

[1:23:51] how are we going to rectify that and how

[1:23:52] we going to remedy that? Um I I agree

[1:23:55] with councelor Shank that um a buffer

[1:23:59] zone which also in the documentations

[1:24:01] from the province it it talks about uh

[1:24:03] buffer zones and at one point it talks

[1:24:05] about even considering placing uh when

[1:24:07] you have u uh equipment uh swings and

[1:24:10] playground equipment and that types of

[1:24:11] thing of placing wood chips or mulch and

[1:24:14] the foundation of that to try and help

[1:24:15] to um to mitigate the fact of uh of the

[1:24:20] issue of of the blacklegged tick. So, um

[1:24:23] I think the buffer zone um is the most

[1:24:28] appropriate thing to do and and and like

[1:24:29] I say, we have to not only take into

[1:24:31] consideration those folks that uh wish

[1:24:34] to have naturalized lawns, but we have

[1:24:36] to take into the the consideration the

[1:24:38] rest of the population as well that may

[1:24:40] come in contact with a blacklegged tick

[1:24:42] and get bit. So, um I have to agree with

[1:24:45] councelor Shank with respect to to uh

[1:24:47] what he's saying. I think we owe it to

[1:24:50] our community to ensure that we have

[1:24:53] done everything that we could do in

[1:24:55] light of the fact that we are cognizant

[1:24:57] and same as every other municipality in

[1:24:59] this province is cognizant of the fact

[1:25:02] that their their bylaws with respect to

[1:25:05] grass cutting probably should be

[1:25:06] reviewed and I and I have to think uh um

[1:25:09] with the with the extra time that we're

[1:25:11] going to have now as we're moving into

[1:25:12] into the winter season or the fall

[1:25:14] season um it's going to provide us an

[1:25:16] opportunity to to have a robust

[1:25:18] conversation with respect to cutting

[1:25:20] grass. It's going to provide us the

[1:25:21] opportunity to to come up with a uh an

[1:25:24] updated a a very um thorough

[1:25:30] bylaw which is going to take into

[1:25:32] account uh all the citizens. So, uh,

[1:25:35] having said that, um, and and I guess

[1:25:38] [sighs]

[1:25:39] what I should also and and I want to

[1:25:41] make sure that we we we we've dotted all

[1:25:42] the eyes and cross the tees here, but,

[1:25:44] uh, um, there has been a large number of

[1:25:47] correspondence that get, uh, um, um,

[1:25:51] received and supported through quite a

[1:25:55] few of the 444 municipalities in this

[1:25:58] province. uh asking the province to to

[1:26:02] get engaged in in the um the assistance

[1:26:06] of trying to solve the Lyme disease

[1:26:08] problem that we have. So, and I think uh

[1:26:10] I think we all know that the best way of

[1:26:13] resolving the Lyme disease problem is

[1:26:15] not getting Lyme disease. So, um and and

[1:26:19] that uh and I don't have unfortunately I

[1:26:21] don't have that documentation in front

[1:26:22] of me tonight, but I know that I could

[1:26:24] find it fairly quickly. uh and I noted

[1:26:26] it that it's uh not only been um

[1:26:30] received and supported by municipalities

[1:26:32] in the rural areas, it's been received

[1:26:34] and noted and and supported by

[1:26:36] municipalities in northwestern Ontario

[1:26:38] as as well as uh those in the GTA area.

[1:26:41] So, um I I think we we need to do our

[1:26:44] due diligence on this at this point and

[1:26:46] uh um provide some form of a buffer,

[1:26:50] which I think 10 ft is is probably the

[1:26:52] fair amount as we've heard in in

[1:26:54] previous reports that uh the 15T buffer

[1:26:57] zone is is a buffer zone that is being

[1:26:59] used by a municipality that's close to

[1:27:02] us. Um I think uh which which which

[1:27:05] would be fine but I think the 10-ft

[1:27:07] buffer zone would be sufficient to in

[1:27:09] order to provide the uh the public

[1:27:11] safety that I think uh we need to

[1:27:14] provide with respect to this. So having

[1:27:16] said all that is there anything that

[1:27:18] anyone else would like to comment uh and

[1:27:20] I'll put it back because I've obviously

[1:27:22] talked a lot this evening. Um is there

[1:27:24] anything else anybody would else would

[1:27:26] like to say before I uh ask councelor

[1:27:28] Shank to make a motion? Go ahead deputy

[1:27:29] mayor cover then I'll go to councelor

[1:27:31] Martin. Thank you through your worship.

[1:27:33] So just for the public out there

[1:27:35] listening, our current bylaw, which is a

[1:27:39] law, states grass must be cut entire

[1:27:42] yard.

[1:27:44] What I'm hearing and understand from the

[1:27:47] report I've read is that we're going to

[1:27:50] not go with a 15t buffer zone, but a

[1:27:53] 10-ft buffer zone.

[1:27:56] That's acceptable for now until we have

[1:27:58] a chance to review our bylaws.

[1:28:01] So, we are making a bit of an adjustment

[1:28:04] to our bylaw [clears throat] for this

[1:28:06] particular piece of property

[1:28:09] until such time

[1:28:12] we get a chance to review everything and

[1:28:13] review it thoroughly, which I think is

[1:28:16] is more than fair. Thank you. Thanks,

[1:28:19] Deputy Mayor Calver. And go ahead,

[1:28:21] councelor Martin.

[1:28:22] » Thank you, Mayor. um

[1:28:26] through you. Um

[1:28:29] can [clears throat]

[1:28:30] since we are going to be reviewing our

[1:28:32] bylaw and there could be changes uh to

[1:28:36] it and in view of the fact that there's

[1:28:39] cold weather coming, there's going to be

[1:28:40] snow covering the ground. I don't think

[1:28:42] anybody's going to get any ticks from

[1:28:43] that, can we not suspend this order to

[1:28:47] mow until that bylaw is reviewed?

[1:28:56] Uh we we as a council obviously

[1:28:58] councelor Martin can uh do whatever

[1:29:01] forehands say we do when they put it in

[1:29:04] the air but uh um I think we just need

[1:29:07] to remind everyone that uh the issue

[1:29:09] with the tick population unfortunately

[1:29:13] um a number of years ago the cold

[1:29:15] weather used to kill them off but

[1:29:17] unfortunately that doesn't exist anymore

[1:29:18] so that doesn't kill them off and and

[1:29:20] and from my understanding any of the

[1:29:21] research I've done on it is that uh even

[1:29:24] the uh even the winters that we have

[1:29:28] here aren't sufficient enough to keep

[1:29:30] them at bay. So um that's my

[1:29:33] understanding of it anyways. So but uh

[1:29:37] like I say we can uh I'll I'll entertain

[1:29:40] uh councelor Shank's motion and then

[1:29:43] we'll go from there. So thank you.

[1:29:46] I'll say one final thing if you go ahead

[1:29:48] counc

[1:29:50] » The way I look at it council Martin

[1:29:51] councel nory is that the bylaw currently

[1:29:54] states you have to cut your whole lot

[1:29:56] all right it's a residential not not

[1:29:58] fully developed residential subdivision

[1:30:01] all right it's in a residential

[1:30:03] subdivision so we have for the we had I

[1:30:07] think minimum of 60 complaints just in

[1:30:09] the south of different lots all right

[1:30:13] that the bylaw had to do uh most of them

[1:30:17] or pretty well all of them have done

[1:30:19] theirs.

[1:30:21] I understand the proponent who's went

[1:30:24] ahead and said, "Hey, I've I've got a

[1:30:26] you know, I don't lived in the

[1:30:28] countryside all the time, but I have a

[1:30:30] I've made a natural lawn here with this

[1:30:33] that to teach my kids and everything

[1:30:34] else, which he has a valid point."

[1:30:37] But all I'm saying is is that if a 10-ft

[1:30:40] boundary, all right, because if you let

[1:30:44] this lady go 100% and not have a buffer,

[1:30:48] what about the proponent that's right

[1:30:50] beside it that wants to have their lawn

[1:30:51] cut perfectly?

[1:30:53] So 10 ft out of the acreage that she

[1:30:56] has, all right, on this I feel is a a

[1:31:01] fair and approachable,

[1:31:03] you know what I mean? something that's

[1:31:05] protecting the neighbors and other

[1:31:06] locations also and this location. All

[1:31:09] right. And it's something that's that's

[1:31:11] uh you're not going ahead and cutting

[1:31:14] the whole lot especially when you have a

[1:31:16] valid point and this should be

[1:31:17] addressed. We are going to address this

[1:31:19] in the meantime. You're setting a

[1:31:21] precedent. Also, if you have a natural

[1:31:23] lies and you have done the work that the

[1:31:25] lady has done, you have to have a buffer

[1:31:27] road to protect your neighbors also. You

[1:31:30] can't just let leave your yard into

[1:31:32] natural because the next neighbor beside

[1:31:34] might not like that. So you have to take

[1:31:36] that under consideration also. That's

[1:31:38] the reason why I feel this is a fair and

[1:31:41] measured approach of what we're doing.

[1:31:44] So that's why it's proud. There we go.

[1:31:47] » Great. Thanks uh councelor Shank. Uh we

[1:31:50] do have a recommendation. I think it was

[1:31:52] staff recommendation that you wish to uh

[1:31:54] with the the minor modification. And

[1:31:55] I'll read it so everybody is aware of

[1:31:57] it. That council receive for information

[1:31:58] executive services grass bylaw review

[1:32:00] and compliance order 0307 report. And

[1:32:03] further that council direct that no

[1:32:05] changes be made to the grass bylaw at

[1:32:07] this time, but that a recommendation to

[1:32:09] review the bylaw in advance of the next

[1:32:12] enforcement season be presented to the

[1:32:14] next term of council. And further that

[1:32:16] the council direct the compliance order

[1:32:17] 0307 be upheld and modified to require a

[1:32:21] buffer zone of 10 feet to be mowed on

[1:32:23] the southeast south and east boundaries

[1:32:26] of the lot to a height below 10 in with

[1:32:29] an exception of the any wet land areas

[1:32:31] and with a compliance deadline of the

[1:32:34] 8th of September 2026.

[1:32:37] And you'll make that by way of motion.

[1:32:40] And we have a seconder with councelor

[1:32:42] Davyy has is the seconder. Is there any

[1:32:45] further comments, questions, or concerns

[1:32:47] before we call for the vote? Council

[1:32:49] Martin,

[1:32:50] » Can we have a recorded vote, please?

[1:32:52] » Uh oh. Yeah. Oh, Madam Clerk is out

[1:32:55] here. So, yeah. Uh, Madame Clerk, if if

[1:32:58] there's nothing else, um, uh, I'll turn

[1:33:00] it over to you.

[1:33:03] » All right. Um, Ward One, Councelor

[1:33:05] Shank.

[1:33:06] » W three, Councelor Davey.

[1:33:07] » Ward four, councelor Nory,

[1:33:09] » No.

[1:33:09] » Ward five, councelor Martin,

[1:33:11] » No.

[1:33:11] » Deputy Mayor Caliber,

[1:33:13] » Yes. Mayor Richardson.

[1:33:14] » Yes,

[1:33:15] » That motion's carried.

[1:33:17] » Great. Thank you uh thank you folks and

[1:33:19] thank you uh madam clerk for doing that.

[1:33:20] So moving on to the next matter,

[1:33:23] financial and IT services OCIF funding

[1:33:26] support resolution. And

[1:33:29] Mr. Murphy, you're going to speak to

[1:33:31] that.

[1:33:43] uh through your worship. I I don't have

[1:33:44] a whole lot to add to the report in

[1:33:46] front of you. Uh I think it speaks for

[1:33:48] itself in terms of the financial impact.

[1:33:51] If OCIF was lost for the municipality,

[1:33:53] uh it is not a small amount of money and

[1:33:55] the projects it goes towards on an

[1:33:57] annual basis. U if those funds were

[1:33:59] lost, I think it would have a major

[1:34:01] impact on the municipality. Uh as to

[1:34:04] what council wishes to do, that's

[1:34:05] totally up to them in terms of um

[1:34:08] whether they want to advocate or whether

[1:34:09] they do not want to or the method they

[1:34:11] wish to do so. Um but staff feel that

[1:34:14] this is a extremely important issue and

[1:34:16] the financial impact uh would be

[1:34:18] significant on the budget as a whole. Um

[1:34:20] so happy to take any questions if you

[1:34:23] wish. Um but otherwise I'll leave it up

[1:34:25] to you.

[1:34:27] » Thanks Nathan. Uh is there any questions

[1:34:28] or comments with respect to Mr. Nathan's

[1:34:30] presentation of the report that's in

[1:34:32] front of us this evening.

[1:34:34] Seeing none, we do have a recommendation

[1:34:35] the council receive for information the

[1:34:37] financial IT services OCF funding

[1:34:39] support resolution report and further

[1:34:40] council support the municipal finances

[1:34:42] finance officers association of Ontario.

[1:34:44] The MFOA requests that the province of

[1:34:47] Ontario make a permanent make permanent

[1:34:49] the doubling of the Ontario Community

[1:34:50] Infrastructure Fund funding from 200

[1:34:53] million to 400 million annually

[1:34:55] beginning in 2027 and that a copy of the

[1:34:59] resolution be forwarded to the Premier

[1:35:00] of Ontario, the Minister of

[1:35:01] Infrastructure, Minister of Municipal

[1:35:03] Affairs and Housing, the Minister of

[1:35:04] Finance, the Minister of Finance

[1:35:05] Officers Association of Ontario, the

[1:35:07] Association of Municipalities Ontario,

[1:35:09] the Member of Provincial Parliament for

[1:35:11] Hastings, Lennoxx and Anington and

[1:35:12] Ontario municipality Nice. Moved by

[1:35:16] councelor Davyy, seconded by councelor

[1:35:18] Nory. If there's no further comments,

[1:35:21] questions, or concerns, all in favor of

[1:35:23] that motion? Opposed? Motion's carried.

[1:35:25] Trails Development Advisory Committee

[1:35:27] initial recommendations. And Mr. Grant,

[1:35:30] uh, when you're ready, the floor is

[1:35:31] yours.

[1:35:48] Thank you. And through your your worship

[1:35:51] uh to members of council, this is uh the

[1:35:54] first set of recommendations from the

[1:35:56] trails development advisory committee.

[1:35:59] Um so the committee as uh the deputy

[1:36:01] mayor has pointed out has met twice. Um

[1:36:04] they have uh broken down their work uh

[1:36:07] into uh a number of different areas. Um

[1:36:11] so they're going to uh go over

[1:36:13] everything from

[1:36:15] uh safety and security to amenities uh

[1:36:18] and the like. So they've they've put out

[1:36:20] a a pretty robust uh work plan, safety,

[1:36:22] security issues, amenities and

[1:36:24] accessibility, recommended service

[1:36:25] levels and promotion of the trails.

[1:36:28] Um in going through their first uh and

[1:36:31] second meetings, the committee had a few

[1:36:34] recommendations uh that they wanted uh

[1:36:37] council to consider. Um with respect to

[1:36:41] the trail and those I would suggest um

[1:36:44] uh should council adopt some of those

[1:36:46] recommendations, um some of them would

[1:36:48] need to go to the budget process. Um but

[1:36:51] the committee itself

[1:36:54] um felt that the new in town trails

[1:36:58] um should have encampment protocol

[1:37:00] restrictions around it. Now I point out

[1:37:02] the encampment protocol already covers a

[1:37:05] a significant portion of the in town

[1:37:07] trails. Some of the trails are on public

[1:37:10] property like uh streets and sidewalks

[1:37:12] and that wouldn't uh that would already

[1:37:14] be covered. Uh some of them uh there

[1:37:17] would be um and I'll ask madam clerk to

[1:37:20] correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe

[1:37:21] it's um [clears throat]

[1:37:23] uh 3 m or 3 feet on either side.

[1:37:29] » I think madam clerk wants to weigh in

[1:37:31] there first. Matthew,

[1:37:33] » Sorry. Ju just to clarify through your

[1:37:35] worship. Um

[1:37:37] right now because there's no trail,

[1:37:40] there's an existing buffer setback of 10

[1:37:42] meters from the private property line.

[1:37:44] So the the middle where the rails were

[1:37:47] could technically have an encampment on

[1:37:49] it. I believe that once a trail is built

[1:37:53] the buffers will overlap to the point

[1:37:55] that the entire area will be a sensitive

[1:37:57] use anyway without making any bylaw

[1:38:00] amendments. But the my understanding is

[1:38:02] the recommendation is the trail

[1:38:04] development committee just wanted to

[1:38:05] make extra sure because it will be the

[1:38:07] trail itself plus 5 m on either side

[1:38:11] plus the 10 m coming in from the private

[1:38:13] property line is very likely uh covering

[1:38:16] that whole area

[1:38:18] and thank you. Uh there may be uh a

[1:38:22] small area or two along that trail that

[1:38:25] would not be covered by private

[1:38:26] property, but the vast majority of it

[1:38:28] will be or would uh touch on uh the

[1:38:32] distance from uh a cemetery. Um so uh

[1:38:37] with that uh we could uh be directed to

[1:38:40] look at any remaining areas and that

[1:38:43] should go through uh an encampment

[1:38:44] protocol review process. I would suggest

[1:38:47] uh that council welcome ebikes and e-

[1:38:49] scooters uh onto the town trail and

[1:38:51] ensure where appropriate speed limits

[1:38:53] are in place. That the town consult with

[1:38:55] the OP on a minimum number of security

[1:38:57] cameras that be considered for

[1:38:58] installation on the town trails. That

[1:39:00] council consider laying uh the

[1:39:02] appropriate conduit during trail

[1:39:03] construction to accommodate any lighting

[1:39:05] and security cameras that might be

[1:39:07] required. And the town explore funding

[1:39:09] opportunities uh through grants to

[1:39:11] support all trail amenities. uh and

[1:39:13] staff looking at this. Um a lot of great

[1:39:17] ideas coming out of the trail

[1:39:18] development advisory committee. Uh I

[1:39:21] would uh as the sitting staff member

[1:39:23] there offer the following reflections.

[1:39:25] Um

[1:39:27] the we could expand sensitive use

[1:39:29] designations to the periphery of in town

[1:39:31] trails. Uh I think that should be part

[1:39:33] of a broader review process and as the

[1:39:35] clerk has mentioned much of it is

[1:39:37] already covered but there will be the

[1:39:39] odd pockets uh that may have uh some

[1:39:42] areas that we may want to look at. um

[1:39:46] that but it should be in the in the

[1:39:47] broader context. I believe that council

[1:39:49] defer the promotion acceptance of e-

[1:39:51] scooters and ebikes on in town trails

[1:39:53] until such time as it decides on whether

[1:39:55] it wishes to permit the use of the VI

[1:39:57] bylaw which is required by provincial

[1:40:00] legislation. Uh that council directs

[1:40:02] staff to consult uh with the OP on the

[1:40:05] appropriate location for security

[1:40:06] cameras. that council directs staff to

[1:40:09] include estimates for solar lighting and

[1:40:11] remote security cameras on the in town

[1:40:13] trails as part of the 2027 budget

[1:40:15] process. I think we can meet their

[1:40:17] intent without necessarily

[1:40:19] um putting in conduit uh at this point

[1:40:22] in time. Uh and that uh council direct

[1:40:25] staff to include trail amenities as a

[1:40:26] focus in its 2027 grant acquisition

[1:40:29] strategy. Um and with the grants uh

[1:40:31] strategy coming forward um that will

[1:40:33] make a ton of sense. Uh, with that, I'm

[1:40:36] happy to answer any questions. And, uh,

[1:40:38] in your report, you'll have the

[1:40:39] recommendations that the committee made

[1:40:40] up top, uh, staff's reflections

[1:40:43] underneath. And what I would recommend

[1:40:45] is council may want to have each

[1:40:47] recommendation in a separate motion.

[1:40:50] » Thank you, Mr. Grant. Uh, councelor

[1:40:52] Nori,

[1:40:53] » Just quickly, the one I'm opposed to

[1:40:56] till we have more legislation is the

[1:40:57] ecooters on those things. I'm going to

[1:40:59] be bringing up something under

[1:41:00] inquiries. I don't want to double double

[1:41:02] dip but without lights and dark and

[1:41:06] these things I know under the law the

[1:41:07] road can't go above 24 km an hour but

[1:41:09] cakes had a fellow going 77 and it's

[1:41:12] facing a lot of charge so I would like

[1:41:15] to see that one scrapt there for now

[1:41:16] until we don't eliminate mo mobility

[1:41:19] things but uh it's very slippery slope

[1:41:22] if you're not too careful that would

[1:41:24] just be my only suggestion for now

[1:41:28] » Thanks councelor and I think that's

[1:41:29] that's part of the recommendations is to

[1:41:31] defer that. And and I mean I agree with

[1:41:32] you because this whole ebike scooter

[1:41:37] scenario is is is

[1:41:40] um evolving I guess is the best way to

[1:41:42] put it. So but I think I think the

[1:41:43] recommendation if I'm not mistaken, Mr.

[1:41:45] Grant, was to defer that anyways until

[1:41:47] there's some clarification. But I'll let

[1:41:49] you speak to that.

[1:41:50] » Sure. Uh thank you your worship. So, um,

[1:41:53] the way that the the committee

[1:41:55] recommendation sheets are, um, laid out

[1:41:58] is the committee's recommendations are

[1:42:00] on top, staff's reflections are on the

[1:42:02] bottom. My reflection is that you should

[1:42:04] defer that until such time that council

[1:42:06] makes a decision on the broader, uh,

[1:42:08] escooter situation, which would be

[1:42:11] required anyway.

[1:42:14] » Yeah. Perfect. So, uh, thank you, Mr.

[1:42:16] Grant. Is there anything else? M I think

[1:42:20] councelor Martin was gonna make this up

[1:42:22] here.

[1:42:22] » Um

[1:42:24] Mr. Grant, I I I agree with most

[1:42:27] everything and and thank goodness that

[1:42:29] we're working towards finishing the in

[1:42:31] town trail. It's going to be wonderful.

[1:42:33] Um certainly agree with lighting and

[1:42:36] cameras. Um [sighs]

[1:42:40] the sensitive use issue is a big deal

[1:42:42] for me. I'd love to see it as sensitive

[1:42:45] use on the trail as well, but I got

[1:42:48] Springside Park that I'm really

[1:42:50] concerned about right now. I'm really

[1:42:53] concerned about the children playing

[1:42:54] down there right now. There's people

[1:42:57] walking their dogs,

[1:42:59] children running and playing in our

[1:43:02] Springside Park. And that's not a

[1:43:04] sensitive use area.

[1:43:06] It should be. So, I'm saying if we're

[1:43:09] going to put sensitive use on the

[1:43:11] trails, Springside Park should be

[1:43:13] sensitive use as well. And there's

[1:43:16] there's something's got to change here

[1:43:17] because I'm going to be awful upset. I'm

[1:43:20] I'm really really ticked off right now

[1:43:22] what's going on down there. But anyway,

[1:43:25] I I'll leave it at that for now.

[1:43:28] » Thanks. Uh thanks, Councelor Martin. Go

[1:43:30] ahead, Mr. Grant.

[1:43:32] » Three, Mr. Mayor and Council Martin. I

[1:43:33] share your concern. I do uh the um not

[1:43:37] only the impact on the citizens but the

[1:43:39] impact on on the services that citizens

[1:43:41] pay for is is significant. Um and as

[1:43:45] well the the individuals living there

[1:43:46] are are also not having a a great time

[1:43:49] of it. So given that I um if there is a

[1:43:53] concern about looking that in isolation

[1:43:55] and I would agree that that's fair. Um

[1:43:57] there may be an opportunity to review

[1:43:59] the sensarium more broadly as part of

[1:44:02] the annual education program that we're

[1:44:04] doing. You you could also take a look at

[1:44:06] the legislation and that um with the

[1:44:08] indication from

[1:44:11] uh the morning star mission that they

[1:44:12] intend to move. Uh their service

[1:44:15] functions may also shift. Um there has

[1:44:18] been some preliminary discussions about

[1:44:20] expanding their services. Um you know

[1:44:24] and and if they uh expand those services

[1:44:27] to a point or the county expands those

[1:44:29] services uh to a point where um there is

[1:44:33] a shelter or some shelter spaces in

[1:44:35] town. uh town council has the ability to

[1:44:39] revisit the amount of sensitive use

[1:44:42] areas that uh exist because the balance

[1:44:47] um and that's what it's all about is

[1:44:49] balance with when with in the absence of

[1:44:51] shelter space we have to

[1:44:55] air on the side of caution. there does

[1:44:57] seem to be shelter space with a move and

[1:44:59] that that may happen um then I think we

[1:45:05] would be in a position to re-evaluate.

[1:45:07] We we still wouldn't be able to protect

[1:45:08] everything but we may be able to expand.

[1:45:10] So I would suggest councelor Martin that

[1:45:13] that would be appropriate to address

[1:45:15] those concerns to move it to a broader

[1:45:17] review so we don't look at anything in

[1:45:19] isolation if that's the will of council.

[1:45:24] » Go ahead, Bill.

[1:45:25] » Thank you, Mayor. Um, thank you,

[1:45:27] Matthew. I I I think you hit on it right

[1:45:30] there. A broader review would uh would

[1:45:33] uh be better because if we are going to

[1:45:34] look at sensitive use area, a trail,

[1:45:39] it's absolutely asinidine to not include

[1:45:42] Springside Park down there. I mean,

[1:45:44] we've got visitors going down there,

[1:45:45] hundreds of them every day. I I wouldn't

[1:45:48] even be surprised if it it would hit a

[1:45:50] thousand people down there. and and

[1:45:52] there's kids walking with I've I've

[1:45:55] picked up needles myself off the ground

[1:45:58] and and took them to a needle drop off.

[1:46:01] I It's dangerous for kids. It's

[1:46:03] dangerous for people being down there in

[1:46:05] that park. So,

[1:46:08] this gives me a perfect opportunity to

[1:46:10] complain about that with this with the

[1:46:12] trail. So, uh and and I'm not against

[1:46:15] that on the trails either because I I

[1:46:17] believe me and I know it's a problem

[1:46:19] everywhere. Everybody's

[1:46:22] really ticked off with what's been going

[1:46:23] on with the tents and the and the

[1:46:26] homeless conditions and sort of thing.

[1:46:28] Residents, taxpayers, they can't use

[1:46:30] their park because of of what's going on

[1:46:34] and that's not fair to them. So, and I

[1:46:37] know I know it's county and it's

[1:46:39] province and and we our hands are tied

[1:46:42] and I know I understand I understand all

[1:46:44] that, but I'm just saying sensitive use

[1:46:46] if we can use that in the park as well

[1:46:49] as the trails, you're going to make a

[1:46:51] lot of people happy. So, there you go.

[1:46:54] » Yeah. Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.

[1:46:56] » So, thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd say

[1:46:58] councilman, I agree um that there's a

[1:47:01] lot of concern. Uh I would say that uh

[1:47:04] Greater Napony has gone further than

[1:47:06] most in terms of protection. Uh so

[1:47:09] conservation park in its entirety uh is

[1:47:11] off limits and we've we've had great

[1:47:13] success in making sure that we've

[1:47:16] minimized um conflicting use in those

[1:47:19] areas. Um you know there's been a few

[1:47:22] other areas where we've had a tremendous

[1:47:23] success. uh we've been able to partner

[1:47:26] with um social service agencies and law

[1:47:29] enforcement and and and I would say that

[1:47:32] in the event um that there is um a

[1:47:38] proper shelter option in town um I'm

[1:47:41] cautiously optimistic we might see that

[1:47:43] in the future. I know that uh you know

[1:47:47] the Morning Star Mission is in in their

[1:47:49] move is is looking at their options. I

[1:47:52] think the county has been um in on those

[1:47:55] discussions and and supportive of

[1:47:57] Morning Star Mission's uh broader

[1:48:00] mandate. I can't say too much cuz it's

[1:48:02] not u my discussion to have, but um so

[1:48:05] I'm keeping an eye on that situation

[1:48:07] very closely and and appreciating that

[1:48:10] um many council members would like to be

[1:48:14] um protect as much area as we can. Um if

[1:48:19] there if the situation changes where we

[1:48:22] can strike different balance because

[1:48:24] there's more amenities available for

[1:48:25] those that are homeless, uh I will be

[1:48:28] the first in line to bring that to you.

[1:48:33] Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Grant. I I

[1:48:35] appreciate what you're saying there. And

[1:48:36] and uh I I know this council, this town

[1:48:41] staff, everybody has done everything we

[1:48:43] can legally do with the homeless

[1:48:46] situation. But but it's important to say

[1:48:49] legally because we have to act within

[1:48:52] the law. And unfortunately going back to

[1:48:54] what is it 1982 or something when the

[1:48:57] charter of rights come out or when and

[1:49:00] you know um it's affected what we're

[1:49:03] doing here today actually I I believe so

[1:49:07] anyway

[1:49:08] what we can do with ringside park I I'm

[1:49:11] I'm I'm happy to hear that at least it's

[1:49:13] going to be in the mix of of speaking

[1:49:16] about it. So thank you very much. Thank

[1:49:18] you mayor.

[1:49:19] » Thanks Council. Go ahead Deputy May. Uh

[1:49:21] thank you through your worship. Um just

[1:49:25] uh

[1:49:27] to uh Madame Clerk, I'm just wondering

[1:49:29] what is the buffer zone for a trail and

[1:49:32] is there a different buffer zone for

[1:49:33] trail versus parking lot? Because I

[1:49:35] think what the biggest complaint is that

[1:49:38] I'm hearing um at Springside Park is the

[1:49:41] 310 right along the edge of the parking

[1:49:43] lot as you come down. If you want to

[1:49:45] come down and enjoy your your lunch

[1:49:47] break and go for a walk, that's what you

[1:49:49] see. I I just wondered if there's is

[1:49:51] there a buffer zone from parking lots or

[1:49:53] is it just from the trail itself?

[1:49:56] » So through your worship under the uh

[1:49:59] current bylaw this setback is on or

[1:50:01] within 5 m of a walking path or trail

[1:50:06] parking lot or designated pedestrian

[1:50:08] access point. So it is the same buffer

[1:50:10] for both.

[1:50:12] » Okay. So they're definitely uh not the 5

[1:50:14] mters from the parking lot. Thank you.

[1:50:17] and uh to councelor Martin, I don't

[1:50:20] believe the county actually had a part

[1:50:21] in creating this problem, but we we do

[1:50:24] have a problem and we are working at it.

[1:50:26] Thank you.

[1:50:28] » Thank you. Uh Deputy Mayor Calary, is

[1:50:30] there anything else?

[1:50:34] Uh seeing none, we do have a

[1:50:36] recommendation that uh council receive

[1:50:38] for information the trails development

[1:50:39] advisory committee initial recommend

[1:50:41] recommendations report and further that

[1:50:43] council expand the sensitive use

[1:50:44] designation to the periphery of the in

[1:50:47] town trails to those areas not already

[1:50:51] captured by boundaries associated with

[1:50:52] the recreational amenities and private

[1:50:54] property that counts as a further

[1:50:55] promotion or acceptance of e- scooters

[1:50:57] and ebikes on in town trails until such

[1:51:00] time as it decides on whether it wishes

[1:51:02] to permit the use of these vehicles by

[1:51:04] bylaw as per the provincial legislation

[1:51:07] that council direct staff to consult

[1:51:08] with the OP on the appropriate location

[1:51:10] for security cameras and in town trails.

[1:51:12] That council direct staff to include

[1:51:13] estimates for solar lighting and remote

[1:51:16] security cameras on the in trails as

[1:51:18] part of the 2027 budget process and

[1:51:20] council direct staff to include trail

[1:51:22] amenities as f as a focus of its 2027

[1:51:26] grant acquisition strategy.

[1:51:30] Uh moved by councelor Shank, second by

[1:51:32] councelor Davey. Is there any further

[1:51:34] comments, questions, and concerns with

[1:51:36] respect to that motion?

[1:51:38] Go ahead, Mr. Grant.

[1:51:40] » So, uh, Mr. Mayor, just, uh, in

[1:51:42] reflection of the conversation that

[1:51:44] council's had, I think the only, uh,

[1:51:46] amendment to that motion that I might

[1:51:48] make, Mr. Mayor, is to defer, uh,

[1:51:51] protection of the trail to a broader

[1:51:53] review process if that's the will of

[1:51:55] council.

[1:51:59] » Yeah, we do have a motion on the floor.

[1:52:01] Um,

[1:52:03] I'll go to them. I'll go to the movers

[1:52:05] and the seconders.

[1:52:12] » Perfect.

[1:52:14] » Madam clerk, do you have what you have?

[1:52:23] So through your just to be clear, the

[1:52:25] first clause would be that council refer

[1:52:27] the request to expand the sensitive use

[1:52:30] designation um to those that already

[1:52:32] captured it to a broader review process.

[1:52:35] Um I believe that's already been

[1:52:37] scheduled for this coming winter.

[1:52:44] Over and second are good. Okay.

[1:52:46] » Is there anything further?

[1:52:49] Not. We'll call for the vote. All in

[1:52:50] favor? Motion's on the floor. Oppose.

[1:52:53] Motion's carried. Um

[1:52:56] information uh sorry bylaws. We don't

[1:52:58] have any bylaws. Information reports for

[1:52:59] members. I don't believe we have any of

[1:53:01] them. Inquiries. Does any member do any

[1:53:04] members of council have any inquiries

[1:53:05] with respect to anything? Councelor Nor.

[1:53:08] » Actually, I had a information.

[1:53:11] [laughter]

[1:53:11] » Well, we can

[1:53:12] » First and I've got two inquiries. Let me

[1:53:14] just talk. I tell you what, let's go

[1:53:15] back to the information reports first

[1:53:17] and then we'll go to the inquiries. I'm

[1:53:18] going to let you have at her.

[1:53:20] » Thank you. I'll do my best to be quiet.

[1:53:22] Um, from the arts committee, they had

[1:53:24] the final Music in the Park on April

[1:53:28] August 8th. I mean, very successful.

[1:53:32] And I just segue into what was been said

[1:53:35] beside me. People were relaxed and happy

[1:53:37] because they could enjoy their park. Not

[1:53:39] like last year. I'll leave that part at

[1:53:41] that. But it was over 100 people. So

[1:53:43] they were very very happy. Thank you.

[1:53:47] » Great. Thank you. Um inquiries. You want

[1:53:49] to go there too?

[1:53:51] » Yeah. Two. I think one you've already

[1:53:52] addressed Mr. Grant, but I was bringing

[1:53:55] up the escooters and that because the

[1:53:58] provincial government has said it's

[1:54:00] towns and municipalities responsibility

[1:54:01] for those things except for speed. I

[1:54:03] think it's 24 km an hour. And I'm

[1:54:05] worried about liability if or if we

[1:54:07] don't do something. And people are like

[1:54:08] pinball or pin bowling pins on certain

[1:54:11] sidewalks in different cities. I don't

[1:54:13] want that to happen here. And I've seen

[1:54:15] some adult-aged people acting like

[1:54:17] children on them on our sidewalk. So,

[1:54:19] are we looking into that? Um or are they

[1:54:23] about what we can do? I know we won't

[1:54:25] have enforcement, but to protect us

[1:54:27] liable liability wise, are you looking

[1:54:30] into that?

[1:54:32] » So, through you, Mr. Mayor, to uh to uh

[1:54:35] the counselor. Um so, councelor Nor, I

[1:54:38] would say we will absolutely look into

[1:54:39] that. Um, so we would have to bring

[1:54:41] forward a bylaw to to govern that in the

[1:54:45] use of municipal spaces and it would be

[1:54:46] our intention to do that in the new

[1:54:48] term.

[1:54:49] » Thank you. Cuz I know Kingston I don't

[1:54:50] think allows them anywhere technically

[1:54:52] but and the number two is um as we

[1:54:56] talked about and I see that Kylie sent

[1:54:58] out rough estimate what it to the media

[1:55:01] what's costing for a 1388 bridge. I

[1:55:04] don't expect to tell, you know, send out

[1:55:05] the media regularly, but can we put on

[1:55:07] our website possibly an update what it's

[1:55:09] costing so the taxpayers aware and maybe

[1:55:12] some photos of what's coming out of

[1:55:13] there so the public knows what's going

[1:55:15] on because

[1:55:17] maybe not the disgusting stuff, but you

[1:55:19] know what I'm trying to say is if we

[1:55:20] could just inform them more what's going

[1:55:22] on so they can be more aware of why

[1:55:24] we're doing what we're doing and what

[1:55:25] it's costing them. Just an idea.

[1:55:28] » So, sure through you, Mr. Mayor. it is

[1:55:30] our intention to put a a full release um

[1:55:33] out on the completion of phase 2 and I'm

[1:55:35] going to bring forward a full report but

[1:55:37] uh since you've asked the question I can

[1:55:38] say like um I expect that work for phase

[1:55:42] one which was about 35 trailers that we

[1:55:45] pulled out uh and phase two which would

[1:55:47] be 100 cubic tons uh so 100 basically

[1:55:51] tons of material coming out uh it's more

[1:55:54] than we thought it's a settling tanks

[1:55:55] it's propane propane tanks we found um

[1:55:58] homemade septic fields and drug

[1:56:00] paraphernalia. Um it's it's not it's not

[1:56:03] a good scene. Um so that's come out. Um

[1:56:06] phase one and phase two were were led to

[1:56:09] local contractors by competitive bid. Uh

[1:56:12] those contracts combined will be

[1:56:14] anywhere between 120 and $145,000.

[1:56:18] Um that's what I expect the bill to be.

[1:56:21] Um in that neighborhood, uh we are

[1:56:24] expecting permits for the property. Um

[1:56:28] well, we require permits for a quanet

[1:56:30] huts that that's there as well as uh a

[1:56:33] mobile trailer where the property owner

[1:56:35] was living. That's you can't have that

[1:56:37] unless you have um a permit for uh your

[1:56:40] construction single family home

[1:56:41] deadlines have been given. No permits

[1:56:43] have been received. I expect that there

[1:56:45] will be a phase three and that material

[1:56:47] has to be pulled out. Um so roughly we'd

[1:56:51] be in the neighborhood of 150 to 160.

[1:56:53] Um, a lot of that would be build back to

[1:56:56] the all of it, the work of the contract

[1:56:58] be back to the property owner as per uh

[1:57:02] the the court order. What won't be uh

[1:57:05] recouped is the loss capacity um that

[1:57:09] the town has incurred. Um so we've had

[1:57:12] uh the fire department there. We have

[1:57:15] had um we have had bylaw services there

[1:57:18] for the last two and a half weeks um

[1:57:21] providing a level of security on site.

[1:57:23] There's been individuals that have been

[1:57:24] moving in and out of what is actively a

[1:57:27] construction site. Um, bylaw's also been

[1:57:30] instrumental in pointing out things on

[1:57:32] the property that can be removed per

[1:57:34] court order and things that cannot be

[1:57:35] removed. We are permitted to take

[1:57:37] certain things off the property and not

[1:57:39] others. Um, so they've been instrumental

[1:57:41] in that. Uh, with that, members of the

[1:57:43] community have had to suffer a lower

[1:57:45] level of service uh for by law

[1:57:47] enforcement because they've been

[1:57:48] otherwise engaged. Um, so legal fees,

[1:57:53] um, we've gotten recoup a percentage of

[1:57:56] the legal fees to date, but we're not

[1:57:57] going to recoup all of those. Um, so it

[1:58:01] has been a massively significant

[1:58:03] undertaking in what was an unsafe and

[1:58:06] unsanitary situation that presented a

[1:58:09] danger and a risk to the people that

[1:58:10] were staying there. Um, and presented

[1:58:14] candidly a public health risk. um to the

[1:58:17] point we're going to have to call in the

[1:58:18] Ministry of Environment uh for some of

[1:58:21] the damage that has happened there. Um

[1:58:23] so it is not a small thing. It's been

[1:58:25] it's been expensive and the work that's

[1:58:28] happened will be recouped uh one way or

[1:58:31] another. The the court order also allows

[1:58:32] us to place uh the cost of the

[1:58:35] contractors on property taxes if the

[1:58:37] money is not forthcoming. And the law

[1:58:39] allows us to seize property if that's

[1:58:41] not paid. Um but uh we were compelled to

[1:58:45] act um cuz this was a unsafe, unsanitary

[1:58:49] and and unjust.

[1:58:52] » Thank you very much. And uh I'm sure the

[1:58:55] public will appreciate uh having an up

[1:58:57] further updates as well. Thank you.

[1:59:01] » Thanks uh councelor Nori. Is there

[1:59:03] anything else? Go ahead, man.

[1:59:06] » Sorry through your worship. I just want

[1:59:08] to go back to the escooter question

[1:59:09] because I've been getting it a lot

[1:59:11] lately as well. Um, so to clarify, if

[1:59:13] the town does not have a bylaw that says

[1:59:15] they're allowed, then they're not

[1:59:18] allowed. And the town does not currently

[1:59:20] have a bylaw. So we're in the same

[1:59:21] position as the city of Kingston

[1:59:23] currently. Um, just for clarity.

[1:59:26] » Good. I wish the people would learn

[1:59:27] that. [laughter]

[1:59:31] [clears throat and cough] And I know

[1:59:31] that uh well, and you probably know as

[1:59:33] well, Bob, the OP is is they're working

[1:59:36] on it and it's kind of frustrating them

[1:59:37] as well because of the different uh

[1:59:42] makeups of these type of things too. So,

[1:59:44] I think there's a lot of work that has

[1:59:45] to be done probably at the provincial

[1:59:46] level to try and uh

[1:59:49] sort it out. So, but thanks for bringing

[1:59:51] it up. [clears throat] Uh is there

[1:59:53] anything else as far as the inquiries

[1:59:55] go?

[1:59:56] Seeing none noticed emotions. I don't

[1:59:58] believe anybody has any noticed

[1:59:59] emotions. New business. I don't believe

[2:00:02] we have any new business. Announcements.

[2:00:04] Does anybody want to make any

[2:00:05] announcements this evening?

[2:00:09] Seeing none. Uh CEO's remarks. Mr.

[2:00:12] Grant, did you have any remarks you

[2:00:13] would like to make this evening?

[2:00:15] » Nothing for me this evening, Mr. Mayor.

[2:00:17] » Uh thank you. The forward counter. I

[2:00:18] know we've all had an opportunity to

[2:00:20] take a look at that. Is there anything

[2:00:20] in the forward code? Uh go ahead. Deputy

[2:00:22] Mayor C. Just want to verify the uh

[2:00:25] September 8th meeting for the for the

[2:00:27] forward counter is at the Roblin Hall.

[2:00:29] Is that correct?

[2:00:32] » Through your worship. Yes, that's

[2:00:33] correct. Our next meeting will not be in

[2:00:35] this building. Don't come here. Uh we'll

[2:00:37] be at Roblin. We will be live streaming

[2:00:39] the meeting the same as we did when we

[2:00:40] met at South Fred Hall.

[2:00:42] » Thank you. I I seen that in there, but I

[2:00:44] I thought when we were talking about

[2:00:46] changing, I thought we were doing the

[2:00:47] Selby Hall. That's why I was questioning

[2:00:48] that. So, thank you.

[2:00:52] [clears throat]

[2:00:52] » Thank you. Madame Clerk, and thank you,

[2:00:55] Deputy Mayor Galver. Uh, was there

[2:00:57] anything else with respect to the

[2:00:58] forward calendar?

[2:01:00] Seeing none, we'll look for a motion to

[2:01:02] uh for the bylaw to confirm the

[2:01:04] proceedings of the town of for the

[2:01:06] council of the corporation of town of

[2:01:07] Greater Napony. Moved by Deputy Mayor

[2:01:09] Calver, seconded by councelor Davyy.

[2:01:11] Read a first, second, and finally pass

[2:01:13] this 25th day of August 2026. All in

[2:01:16] favor of that motion. Oppose. Motion's

[2:01:18] carried. And motion to adjurnn. Moved by

[2:01:20] councelor Davyy, second by councelor

[2:01:22] Shank. There's no further comments,

[2:01:23] questions, concerns. All in favor of

[2:01:24] that motion? Oppose. Motion's carried.

[2:01:26] Thanks, folks.

Regular Session Council - 25 Aug 2026

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