[0:16] Thank

[0:21] you

[0:26] for the opportunity to gather as a community, we pray your blessing upon proceedings

[0:33] of this evening, watch over and keep us as we continue to seek the best for those who we serve

[0:40] and those in our community.

[0:42] Rather, we just want to pause to acknowledge your presence in our lives,

[0:45] but thank you for your good and this increase,

[0:46] and the provisions that you have bestowed upon us as a people, as a nation,

[0:51] and Lord, we pray you continue to see upon each one.

[0:54] You ask for a press name.

[0:56] Thank you very much.

[0:58] All right, as the council will, and I will say,

[1:00] I'm sure you're right.

[1:01] The agenda will look for a motion to approve you again,

[1:04] and make a motion of a perfect agenda for you.

[1:15] There are some debt revisions as well.

[1:23] The police support is on the agenda.

[1:26] I don't know if we're going to have an informal report.

[1:30] So I'm from the police department and also the agenda states that you must be a resident

[1:40] or taxpayer or

[1:46] but there's other areas in the wardings that make that unclear.

[1:57] I'm not sure what that has to do with it.

[2:21] I have to look at that. I'm not sure if it's from that or it has directly. Oh, it has

[2:27] as residents of taxpayers of the town should have a reasonable opportunity to be heard in any way,

[2:31] which I think comes directly out of the charter.

[2:34] So I'm going to give my 10 minutes of my flight work.

[2:40] The police department is listed out there because we do have a primary varsity that's going to give an update.

[2:46] It wasn't clear about the smart base.

[2:51] Now please have a volunteer.

[2:52] here.

[2:54] All right.

[2:54] There are any other questions about who you're doing?

[2:57] I think we have an emotional improvement down there.

[3:00] We can be exceptional.

[3:01] I've already seen a question.

[3:03] All right.

[3:03] 10 seconds.

[3:05] A second.

[3:06] All in favor?

[3:07] Hi.

[3:07] Close.

[3:15] I'm attorney Stephen.

[3:16] I'm close to station.

[3:17] The mayor and council held a close station on July 16th.

[3:22] From 7 to 7.38 pm to discuss the personnel matter related to a specific individual in

[3:28] to a legal place on breach of the contract.

[3:32] I can also take a look at the approval of the men's

[3:35] from the July 16, 2020 process.

[3:38] Can you leave it to the rainy discussion

[3:40] for a majority of your revisions?

[3:42] Page five, paragraph from New Business,

[3:46] Greensboro Historical Society,

[3:48] donation repost, the record reflects

[3:51] Bill Schaffner.

[3:53] Should be Bill Schaffner.

[3:59] Thank you.

[4:00] I kind of like Bill.

[4:09] All right now, the privilege to approve the minutes from the July 16th reading with

[4:16] the corrections.

[4:18] On the second.

[4:19] On the second.

[4:20] All day long.

[4:20] Hi.

[4:21] Good.

[4:26] Terry Ferrin.

[4:28] Thank you.

[4:29] You're welcome.

[4:37] Thank you.

[4:39] I had a brief conversation with Cindy and Mary in the mail and there was a discussion about

[4:47] about the social, the sewer, serving, the time of the boats, and so in that conversation

[4:55] I said, well there may be other alternatives where it could be bolt as it was shared or

[5:01] built on regular usage. And so Cindy said, go ahead and send me an email. So I came back

[5:08] and I was going through the counties water sewer plan and it just I pulled together sort

[5:16] the synopsis of how did we get rid of the town of Greensboro's owning the goals for

[5:21] area, for service, for sewer, and just for background, I did work with USDA. I was

[5:28] a project that I worked on. And the firm that I'm working with now are going to pay with

[5:34] the engineering firm that worked with the design for the regional race water treatment plant

[5:39] and then the service area. So that's all that I kind of put together

[5:44] There's an area I didn't expect the annual dates to come to the town meeting.

[5:50] I appreciate it.

[5:51] I didn't know if anybody had any questions.

[5:54] And if you are interested in looking at potential maybe alternatives,

[5:59] I would be more than happy to do it as a courtesy to try to get, you know,

[6:04] a solution that works for anybody with regards to the town's sewering for golds,

[6:11] There at Talbot County has the St. Michael's Wastewater Treatment Plant that made

[6:18] her vine sewage throughout the county.

[6:21] The town of Guadana has a relationship with Kent County in the Georgetown area there

[6:28] where they, the county, did a collection of conveyance and then they pay a fee back to

[6:35] Guadana for the treatment of the wastewater.

[6:37] So there are different scenarios within close proximity that are other alternatives, and I do think that the primary reason that the relationship between ownership is originally it was North County, which was the County and the areas of Henderson Temple,

[6:53] with Jack Cuman, who worked with Maryland Department of Environment, and he had his spreadsheet.

[6:59] And in the spreadsheet, that tracked all of the money for the project to eventually service the entire area.

[7:06] EPA pulled out the amount of grant funding that was going to be provided for it,

[7:11] that would not give them the predictable amount of income.

[7:14] That's why the priority then became the time goals where they had a consent and a complete order.

[7:21] That's wouldn't likely, and I'm either bringing you with no, or maybe lending us why that then

[7:28] changed to the only one that was involved in it, which we've goals for, I agree, but

[7:32] I agree with you to ownership of the entire industry.

[7:36] But ownership could change, and you have any questions that you wouldn't have to answer

[7:40] it.

[7:41] But if there's some point in time, you want to maybe look at alternatives,

[7:49] you can start

[7:50] and then we've got the staff at the stadium and we've got the staff at the parking lot.

[8:07] All right, very good. Thank you very much.

[8:11] Okay, no problem. Thank you. Take care.

[8:26] I am tempted.

[8:35] Planning commission.

[8:37] So I want to give you an update.

[8:38] So the planning commission, Matt last night,

[8:42] and they have made recommendations which I will breach up to legal for to get this.

[8:48] but they have requested three year moratorium on data centers, so hopefully we'll have that coming forth in the September meeting.

[8:55] They have also indicated that they want to design a new zoning regulation called a solar energy overlay district.

[9:04] And that would be for the availability of the municipality to put in solar panels out to the wastewater treatment plant that will assist in putting down that electric bill.

[9:14] So those are the recommendations. I'll be forwarding that to legal for them to draft a resolution

[9:21] ordinance. I'll just need it. I'm writing that to you in September. They also wanted

[9:26] to make the council aware that there'll be a public hearing on the comprehensive plan.

[9:32] We're just going for September the 28th. Once they have the public hearing through the planning

[9:38] commission, it will then be forwarded to the council for the council to review and set up

[9:43] another hearing to approve the final hot plan.

[9:55] I'm not sure if it's 6.30, but we'll definitely

[9:59] have. Are they going to have that here or? Yeah, here. All right, good questions. Right there.

[10:07] Now can you move on to the calendar? Thank you.

[10:11] The town is currently continuing to work on ECO. This

[10:14] has been a huge project. We've been working on this for almost a year trying to get all of our

[10:22] We have one last task that the town has to take a look at everything that they have put together and approve it.

[10:29] I'm hoping to have that done by the end of August so that then they can start uploading everything on site to the website.

[10:36] So there will be more updates on that hopefully in September.

[10:40] The town currently has made the negotiation for the new police chief, and of course, have the details.

[10:47] right now he is expected to start on September the 16th. He has graciously volunteered, free of charge to come in and organize our place department and get some things together, look at reporting and so forth, attend some much needed classes and so forth pretty much today.

[11:06] So I'll let him get his report on that.

[11:09] The fiscal year 20 for all of the documents now has been sent over to the auditors.

[11:15] There was one last thing that they asked us to look into, which was the fiscal year

[11:20] 24 revenue that was posted into our billing system.

[11:24] We were able to work with MCSJ and get that report out to them last week.

[11:29] We are now working on fiscal year 25 getting this documents together.

[11:32] I have been told that our bank statements should be up-to-date by mid-next week.

[11:39] That means all the way up to July 26th, so at that point, as I stated in the email, I

[11:46] will produce a clean budget to actual report for you.

[11:52] Grant activity, Jamie Fowler, had worked with the State of Maryland Critical Area Commission

[11:58] and of course obtain another thousand dollars for us to be able to plant trees in the town.

[12:05] About community events, I want to remind everybody that the hometown hero flag

[12:11] campaign ends August 31st at 4 o'clock. So please get out what you should enter and know of

[12:17] anybody. This is our last campaign. So it's important for everybody to get that in. We would love to see

[12:22] as many lives honoring our veterans as we have.

[12:28] And then we have the annual car show.

[12:30] That's gonna be held on August the 29th from 12 to 4.

[12:33] All those proceeds benefit

[12:35] that brings real and youth basketball program.

[12:38] And our next scheduled meeting is September the 17th,

[12:42] here in Town Hall.

[12:45] I do have public works,

[12:47] branding is on vacation this week.

[12:49] Just to highlight the pay me of over 52,000 square feet

[12:53] road had started and it has been completed. The new Quasibo was installed at

[12:58] Curtis Party Park and of course they had the meaning with the Committee for

[13:02] Justice Sutton Park and I did have an update on this one.

[13:14] And it looks like they

[13:15] are waiting on some prices for some equipment. I know that the layer of

[13:21] sponge that goes down first cost about $92,000 so we are also looking at yet

[13:26] and another grant.

[13:28] So this will be a small portion of equipment

[13:30] that will go up for the sensory part,

[13:33] but then we're gonna be looking at additional grants

[13:34] to hold add on to that.

[13:48] I did want to elaborate that I have got a notice

[13:55] that our reserve account at Short United Bank

[13:59] was hacked into.

[14:01] So we've had to also add positive pay for that.

[14:05] Our credit cards were hacked, two of those were.

[14:08] So I had to close down all of our credit cards, which we've now gone with bill.com for our credit cards, which is like a

[14:15] debit card, so to see. And we've also instituted the bill processes through bill.com, which will add a letter of audit that

[14:24] requires the in-wispy edit. And then it's going to be verified by three separate people before it's paid. And then there's an audit bill that states all of that.

[14:34] and a lot of this team from a recommendation from our auditors as well as our county.

[14:42] I have also reached out to the auditors and the account and the CFA could provide me with a fee for fiscal year 23,

[14:49] fiscal year 24, fiscal year 25 to do a forensic audit.

[14:54] That audit would compromise anywhere between 100 to 200,000 dollars and

[14:59] You

[15:00] It would also require the town to hire a full-time person to work with the accountants to get that done. There's no way the town could make that peaceful to pull somebody aside to get that done. So I had reached out to do different firms to see if we can get calls from that and not present that in September.

[15:20] I also wanted to address a concern that was brought to our attention by a resident that there was a Facebook post made about one of our public works drivers that had come to work on a Saturday.

[15:31] day, and to read the conversation was on his way home. He lived in Delaware. A picture

[15:37] was taken of Cal, and it stated that he was driving up to 70 miles an hour. The complaint

[15:43] came to me. I went into our GPS system, and I confirmed that he did no more than 50 to 55

[15:49] miles an hour. So I wanted to bring that attention because that 15-3 from the rest of

[16:06] I think he was on his way at home, but he had been in to do, he wasn't just out riding

[16:13] the wreck.

[16:13] No, he came in to bring for a went to goals, for a red the concessions and it was on his way

[16:17] home.

[16:21] And just so everybody knows, this has been brought up multiple times, but every town vehicle has the GPS system.

[16:29] I have ordered stickers to go on the back of the vehicle so that everyone knows that they are equipped with such.

[16:35] And if there's any concern, they can reach out. We can always check it to see what the speeds work.

[17:03] I'm just going to kindly like the messenger and give you kind of like a report of what's been going on since my retirement. I have been volunteering to come up here, believe it or not, I've been cleaning reorganizing some of the

[17:17] files and getting them up to speed. I've also been trying to complete some

[17:25] mandated statute bylaw documentations that have to be reported to the to the

[17:32] district court or to an atlas so that we're not on a hot list or we're

[17:36] looking like we're not doing anything. These things are from

[17:39] experiments. They can be from the safe or sexual assault kit requirements. They can be traffic,

[17:48] use of force. I'm preparing now the annual use of force report and gathering that data as well

[17:56] going through the systems, the data reports and any other documentation that I can find of use of

[18:02] force that had been done here in the Townic Range Road. So then I can prepare that report and send

[18:09] up so I'm not late or it's not late for the town of Greensboro. I want to announce a couple

[18:15] things that I've been working on. I do have a vision and in part of that vision I've been

[18:24] able to do some public speaking and talking to some individuals that are all about community

[18:31] service, and I have received a donation for the police department to start three significant

[18:40] things. The last time this town had the Explorer program was 26 years ago. Our young men and

[18:48] women deserve to go somewhere and learn about community service, public speaking, and understanding

[18:56] about what it is to work in the community.

[19:00] So by October the first week of October,

[19:03] you will see on Facebook and on our,

[19:05] hopefully in our webpage,

[19:08] the beginning and application for individuals

[19:11] to be part of the Explorer program.

[19:14] I also believe that the adults, the citizens,

[19:18] should have some insights on the police department

[19:21] and some of the functions.

[19:23] So I'm gonna start the first citizen,

[19:26] and police academy here in Greensboro, and I would hope that some of you here will

[19:31] assign and join. Meeting once a week for now, we're going to talk about police issues,

[19:37] police trends, things of that nature, how to budget, those things so you understand about

[19:42] the police department and how it's supposed to work, and how to become volunteers as well.

[19:49] Because I do need volunteers, okay? And the last thing I want to say to our community

[19:53] here I want you to get the word out you know just as well as I do that we have

[19:59] outstanding people in our community I want us to this year with your

[20:05] nomination you nominate the person to have the Greensboro citizen of the

[20:12] year for 2026 we have great people here let me tell you that people that have

[20:18] done hard work that continue to be productive members in our society okay they

[20:24] They might not work here, but they might work somewhere else, but their influence carries

[20:29] through out.

[20:30] So I'm asking you, if you can think about that as well in October, October is going

[20:34] to be pretty busy, but your nomination, and I'll tell you the criteria, it's pretty simple

[20:39] resident of the town, tell me why you nominate the person and who you are, okay?

[20:48] And then maybe we can come together as a committee and vote that person ourselves, okay?

[20:54] Now, with all the networking that I've been doing and I'm going to tell you right now,

[21:02] I've been able to raise a donation of $10,000 to do these programs.

[21:07] That's something that we're going to get back to the community.

[21:10] Those $10,000 are going to be used for the police department equipment,

[21:15] for the explorer program, for the citizen police academy

[21:18] and for the citizen of the year, 2026, I promise you that I am going to do the best job I possibly can before you.

[21:29] Now, along that, I was selected by the FBI leader course for committee to attend a course in Shippingsburg P.A.

[21:40] to be certified as an internal affairs investigator through the FBI.

[21:47] I am proud that I completed that course, and when the importance of it is now, as other

[21:54] departments have assisted us, when we needed help, now I'm certified to help them in

[22:00] internal affairs matters, should they ever need it?

[22:03] Because again, we can't do this by ourselves, and I attempted the study of terrorism on Tuesday

[22:12] of this week, I attended the Study of Terrorism and the Responsive Terrorism and not a lot

[22:19] of information that I want to use to secure some of the facilities here, okay? And on my

[22:27] way back, and I talked about the Explorer program, I stopped by Under Armour to talk to their

[22:35] manager to see if they can give us some free outfits for our children because part of

[22:39] use for program is fitness. I now have to write a letter and not educated, but I took

[22:45] some of the shirts and some of the shorts. Our colors seem to be silver and green. So

[22:51] I got some gray shorts and I got a nice green shirt and I've taken pictures and when I

[22:58] send my letter up to the headquarters up in Baltimore for underarmor for their community

[23:03] partnership unit. I'm asking for them to donate some of that stuff to us as

[23:09] well. I want to make a difference. That's what I want to make. I want to be your

[23:15] chief of police next month. I would love to have your support.

[23:22] That's all I

[23:23] have to say. Thank you.

[23:28] We also got a complaint from the

[23:30] citizen recently about the mark.

[23:36] Mark's police car being out of town.

[23:38] is when we don't have a police department,

[23:44] Mr. Gaurashi is volunteering his time for us and I thought the least we could do as the community is, the town's allowing to use the police car when he is doing things for the police department. That's why you were in police town on that day where you're not?

[24:00] Yes ma'am, don't work for the police.

[24:03] Yes sir.

[24:04] So if you see the police car out of the valve and Mr. Garcia is in,

[24:08] he has our information to be in that car.

[24:10] When it's just supposed to be a case to be transparent.

[24:12] I'm not going to stop talking.

[24:13] I don't care.

[24:14] You need to stop talking.

[24:15] I'm not going to stop talking.

[24:16] You can leave.

[24:17] I'm not going to leave.

[24:18] All right.

[24:19] Wait for the comment.

[24:20] You know you can't talk about it.

[24:22] Thank you.

[24:24] Thank you, Lindsay.

[24:25] I'll obey you.

[24:26] I appreciate it.

[24:32] I wanted to add one more thing, we did reach out to Legit, our insurance company, and verify

[24:37] that this was approved for a volunteer to use it at his stature, and they approved it.

[24:43] I think a lot of the break down that happens in this town, and I feel like it's been a

[24:48] thing for years, this communication, and it's still an issue.

[24:52] I feel like just putting things out there and being transparent instead of the cloaked

[24:58] dagger and making people come up with their own ideals about what's going on.

[25:06] It doesn't lead to a bad path especially where the trust has been breached repeatedly.

[25:12] There's no confidence and I'm not putting that on you.

[25:14] I'm just saying that this is something that's been a ongoing problem for a lot of years.

[25:20] And like Mr. Mason said, I feel like just communicating things would put a lot of things

[25:27] into it instead of holding.

[25:30] Well the talent may be able to improve on its getting information out, but it doesn't

[25:35] help when you have people constantly putting out this information about the talent.

[25:43] That's an administrative decision.

[25:46] She has the authority to make that decision also.

[25:50] All right.

[25:51] Moving on to the comment.

[25:53] Okay.

[25:53] Question.

[25:54] I'm sorry.

[25:55] So, the speaker.

[25:58] Camera capture about.

[26:00] Or a 7-game bottle.

[26:04] Can't hear you.

[26:05] Can't hear you.

[26:07] I said with the speaker.

[26:08] camera. It says a capture 475. It said they approved 404, which means the image was clear

[26:15] or whatever. And we only approved 318. Is there a separate criteria for us versus them?

[26:23] So during the time that I was able to be trained on that, there was like a two-week process

[26:30] where we lost that. Let's do head to have someone train to do that, so that's probably fine.

[27:01] I'm going to work in the course system to rectify that situation, Dave, thank you very

[27:09] much.

[27:09] You're getting extra time now.

[27:11] After time?

[27:13] Well, thank you.

[27:14] I appreciate that.

[27:14] I forgot.

[27:16] So, we'll move on from that because that's going to be a lawyer thing eventually and so forth

[27:21] like that.

[27:21] I probably assume you personally.

[27:23] It's a violation of our personal rights.

[27:25] Technically, hopefully, you'll see that that would be your first, maybe your rest is how he

[27:28] violates his oath of office and people's constitutional rights.

[27:32] And you've got to prove it.

[27:33] I'd like to give it to you.

[27:35] All right.

[27:36] Secondly, so the last meeting, there was a person that came up here, a public person that

[27:40] came up here and made some rather incorrect disinformation

[27:45] comments about our Facebook page.

[27:48] So let me clarify some shit.

[27:51] So you guys went through this individual went through

[27:56] and said that somebody served with honor and dignity

[27:59] and all this BS with the town.

[28:03] Well, what I have a problem with is they're

[28:06] coming at Kim, braiding her because of a Facebook post.

[28:10] But all you guys were silent. Did you forget that this person was suspended in 2024?

[28:16] Why was this person suspended? Why go ahead of waiting? Why was he suspended using company

[28:23] Vehicles and stuff to go see somebody using a town program to go see a mistress and so forth and you want to talk about truth

[28:30] Honor justice. I served the fucking town and not one of you guys said one thing and you and Linux went through and it wasn't

[28:39] suspended them. So how about this, this person who followed us against me, I will

[28:44] call it Desire and Linux as witnesses, and we can put it on public record for

[28:48] the news media. But it's really sad that you guys go through, you are silent when

[28:53] it's convenient for you. That's what pisses me on about you guys. Whenever it's

[28:58] convenient for you, that's when you guys don't want to say nothing. But yeah, you'll

[29:03] sit there and let somebody come up here and beretta a council member, which by the

[29:07] Way 90 guys have her back in the community knows it and that's gonna be your freaking downfall 100%

[29:16] 100% you know, I kind of expected it. Maybe you live out of Pete

[29:21] You know you stuck up there for a year or so you were doing really really damn good

[29:24] I thought you know it's one of those guys like you know he's pretty stand up and check and then you don't say nothing

[29:29] Joe, I don't know what the fuck's going on with you like being truthful and honestly

[29:33] I thought you gotta have Kim's back. I mean you see right through this BS

[29:37] I know you do. You just don't want to say nothing. You're tired of the BS, tired of being

[29:42] operated, tired of the disinformation, the mayor likes to call it. But the problem is,

[29:47] it's not disinformation. You know it's not disinformation. There's always a truth to everything

[29:53] that's being said. You just don't like it. You don't like the Facebook that you don't

[29:56] like people calling you on in your bullshit. That's the problem with you.

[30:00] Right? You don't have to say nothing. Your face says a thousand words. So that's all I got to say. Got 15 seconds left. Don't worry. Keep laughing. I'm glad you think this is funny because there's only one way for you to go down and that's down. You can't go up. You can't go on higher. Just remember that. And like I said, every door tag today is a door tag for you tomorrow. Thank you. And I timed that person back. Oh, good.

[30:26] I

[30:31] don't hear to serve three of yours of standing citizens as I call her so Chris Mason I

[30:46] can't begin your own problem pause. I ain't I ain't brained you could run your mouth over

[30:51] place but I ain't brained pot pot pot shop.

[30:55] Yeah let's go back to comment. Go back to

[30:57] comment to

[31:04] cease and to sit because nobody can talk about me. Chris let me talk about the

[31:17] can't watch and you're trying okay you know you guys talk about what these

[31:21] guys do she does these guys do I'm

[31:46] brain

[31:51] Don't call.

[31:52] Come back, come back.

[31:53] You're dumb.

[31:54] Let's keep on doing what you've got to make back.

[31:57] It's so tough.ienenal,

[31:58] this is no good right now.

[32:19] So we didn't

[32:20] put those on this for years and

[32:25] I can't

[32:25] take too much of it anymore. You know, we

[32:28] were at elected Fistals, right? The Commission if Tim

[32:33] asked for some paperwork from the talent manager,

[32:38] she's going to get it

[32:40] When she is on the board, from when she was on the board, from now she should get the paperwork and put in no charge, right?

[32:48] Anything before she was on the board, she should get charged for.

[32:52] She has.

[32:53] Period, right?

[32:54] Oh, right.

[32:55] I understand, but I'm trying to cut this out here because I'm trying to talk about this.

[32:59] My phone goes off all week long about these emails.

[33:03] It's like a power trip between two people here.

[33:07] That's what it feels like.

[33:08] It doesn't need anything.

[33:09] but that's what it is. I didn't get this paper. I gave it to you. No, I didn't. Yes, I did. Yes, boom, that's that.

[33:18] This is getting old. I'm Joe Noon.

[33:22] The town of Greensboro, Botany, and I don't care if you don't like me or not.

[33:28] I'm going to vote for how I feel is right.

[33:33] And that's all I have to say. Thank you.

[33:37] Mayor, if I may say there's a request to ensure that anybody's speaking is a

[33:46] Tax paying individual for the town. There's been a request to ask if Mr. Cain have to means that criteria

[33:54] I'll leave that to you

[33:55] If he does not live in town, he can ask him. He'll be just going over that

[34:02] That's cool

[34:33] right

[34:41] This man come in and told me to shut my mouth.

[34:44] No.

[34:44] Okay.

[34:45] All right.

[34:48] Everyone, there's a meeting.

[34:50] If you don't like it, you don't want it.

[34:51] Okay.

[34:52] Stop.

[34:52] Sir.

[34:53] It makes me.

[34:54] Sir.

[34:55] Please.

[34:56] Please stop.

[34:58] Ma'am, you're disrupting the meeting now.

[35:00] I don't really want to hear you.

[35:00] Okay.

[35:01] Well, you can stop.

[35:02] Or you can leave the meeting.

[35:03] If the meeting is conducted, that's it.

[35:05] This right now, I don't want to shut my mouth.

[35:07] I don't want to hear you.

[35:14] I don't want to hear you.

[35:14] You're now disrupting the meeting.

[35:25] You instructed them to have me step out, if you're not going to step out, I just said that before.

[35:31] One more word, I'm going to have you.

[35:33] Yes, sir.

[35:36] You know what I feel about you.

[35:38] There you go.

[35:39] Good night, sir.

[35:41] Have a nice smile.

[35:42] You'll have my feelings.

[35:44] Real soon.

[35:45] It's going to be that lady over there.

[35:46] Good night.

[35:47] I'll be talking to you, Gordon.

[35:48] See, I have a free information pack on the man named Brandon.

[35:51] And I think you were actually investigating me.

[35:55] Is that not correct?

[35:57] Sir, we are trying to know who you are.

[35:59] So I have three.

[36:00] I appreciate your service.

[36:04] Is there anyone else hiding that wants to come out

[36:07] and have a show or a spectacle?

[36:11] It's been too long.

[36:12] My second home meeting I've ever going to.

[36:15] I've got a wife.

[36:18] I can't believe him at all.

[36:19] I'm sorry

[36:30] that you all have to go through all that.

[36:37] I'm sorry that we have to go.

[36:39] to go through something like this. I see all the horrible stuff that's put on Facebook. Yeah,

[36:45] I belong to that group so I can see what people were saying, but it's horrible. And if you disagree

[36:50] with them, talk about transparency. They just throw you off. You're not allowed to be on it anymore.

[36:57] I could throw it off once. I was able to get back off after tonight. I don't probably be thrown off

[37:03] because it's such garbage and you talking about transparency and people.

[37:08] That works two ways.

[37:10] You have not to start being positive about this town

[37:13] and stop looking for all the dirt.

[37:16] There are good people here. These guys have worked here for how many years?

[37:20] They want what's best for this town. I trust them. I have for years.

[37:25] There's no reason not to. But then you get new people coming into town

[37:29] And all this, oh, it's just absolutely horrible, horrible.

[37:36] Before all that happened, I wanted to thank you for violent,

[37:40] that wasn't on my list, but it's worth it to take my time

[37:43] to say thank you for using your time for volunteering,

[37:47] for having a vision for this town, and being so positive.

[37:51] I wasn't going to ask about the ordinances

[37:53] because I have spent so much time looking them up online.

[37:55] So thank you for working and getting all that in one place.

[37:59] but what I was going to talk to was about the code.

[38:02] And there's simply my opinion about the water, the door hangers

[38:10] for the water bills.

[38:12] I don't think the town should recap to remind us residents

[38:16] that the water bill is too per leaked.

[38:19] It's a nice idea, but it's unnecessary expense.

[38:22] And from what I gather, it's not appreciated anyway.

[38:27] The due date is on the bill, the town's page, the Facebook page, there's a 14-day grace period.

[38:33] There's a reason to warn people if they're coming to a cutoff date and you want to send them a notice,

[38:41] that should be optional, but do it through email because it's too expensive to do it through the postal service.

[38:47] I have a lot written about that too but basically it's why don't we just wait until there

[38:56] are complaints, let people in town complain that way it's the citizens that are initiating

[39:03] the code enforcement.

[39:06] I think a outsourcing for code enforcement is a horrible idea, you're adding a salary

[39:13] so you'll have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to go out and find the

[39:22] violations. They can keep their job and look at what happened to Greensford about cross some Greensford

[39:28] or supply, what did that end up costing and how long did that take. You know it's not worth the time

[39:34] that we've spent on these violations and code enforcement and all like that and again I'm so sorry

[39:40] that you all have time to put up with what you do and how the people at this, it's horrible, I'd like you to pass it more.

[39:51] I declined because I'm not a citizen of this town, so go ahead and go to the next person.

[40:04] Are you going to attack the mayor?

[40:06] I'm not quite sure. I've said I could be a resident and a tax player by the town of the town of the town.

[40:14] I'm outside police process.

[40:27] I

[40:39] don't think I know being outside of it.

[40:41] Not my cup of tea.

[40:44] I just wanted to mention about the upcoming code ordinance.

[40:49] I agree with Ms. Donna that if there is administrative assistant or code enforcement that we're pitching

[40:57] for, again, the biggest concern is budgeting. Our budget was already voted on, and where

[41:04] is the money going to come from. I mean, I can speculate and say it's from the money

[41:09] that we allocated here or there, but it's really worth the money going to come from in

[41:15] order to pay for those positions.

[41:19] Ms. Clay, I am saddened to see you so upset. Unfortunately,

[41:24] that the Facebook page has given people a place to vent.

[41:29] And it's not always negative.

[41:31] I do see where Kim tries to be extremely thorough

[41:34] and sometimes writes like six pages worth of information.

[41:38] It's just people choose to pick and choose what they see out of it.

[41:42] They don't read the whole thing

[41:43] and then they take it wrong with it.

[41:45] You have those kinds of negative people on every page

[41:48] and the transparency is always been an issue with our town

[41:52] where they will speculate if they do not have the information.

[41:56] So I understand that the town manager has the ability

[42:00] to make calls, make judgments.

[42:03] But if anybody wants to speculate,

[42:06] they're going to speculate whether it's on Facebook,

[42:08] whether it's through their phone, to their bestie,

[42:10] just like we used to do.

[42:11] My aunt would love to just call up her sister

[42:14] and say, guess what, I just saw a car, and it was a cop car.

[42:17] And we don't have any cops in town.

[42:19] I wonder what they're doing.

[42:20] That's how they used to do with being done

[42:22] on Facebook and that. It's the same thing. It doesn't mean that it's just that

[42:26] Facebook group. It's just that's the only place to vent as questions and things

[42:31] are being hashed out from a counsel that was here many moons ago and we're still

[42:36] trying to fix it. So it's it's just a big pot of mess and I'm sorry to see you so

[42:42] upset but I promise it not everybody on that page is out to just get everybody.

[42:49] That being said, I wanted to address and ask about solicitors.

[42:54] I was seeing that on that page.

[42:56] They're getting aggressive.

[42:58] We don't have police right now.

[43:00] We don't want to waste the state's police force, the county's police force by calling

[43:06] about a solicitor.

[43:07] But one, apparently, was a little aggressive today and kicked somebody's ceramic gnome right

[43:11] off.

[43:12] There's been two in the past week.

[43:14] you know what they were kind of they say something different every time this

[43:20] one was I have to be home that was two weeks ago that was two weeks ago I

[43:28] have one today yes you've got to cut it on your bill and a

[43:35] double power pest control has little kids on sideways but there's another one

[43:40] They're getting around it by saying they're serving.

[43:42] We've got to find it so we may be getting help from it.

[43:45] Right.

[43:45] We're asking them if they have permits.

[43:47] They're saying they don't have to because it's a survey.

[43:50] But it's getting a little bit more aggressive.

[43:53] So if they're, we don't want to waste the police time,

[43:56] but we just need you, something else,

[43:57] what that we could do.

[43:58] Thank you.

[43:59] Thank you.

[44:00] Thank you, Chef.

[44:02] Ms. Bill?

[44:04] All right.

[44:08] Bill, Chef, you're two-throwed-staffed.

[44:10] street where you're going now.

[44:12] Man, I don't know who you are, but I am sorry that you had to see what you saw.

[44:18] The meetings have not normally been like this.

[44:22] This is a new occasion, a new occurrence in the last several years.

[44:26] Just the luxury dose.

[44:27] If you come back, it'll get better.

[44:30] I would look.

[44:31] Can I appreciate your efforts, but you're too negative, and I think you could do better.

[44:39] I know you can do better.

[44:40] I appreciate the work you do. It's a lot. I appreciate it, but there's more negativity in this panel today than I've seen in the 4 or 7 years over this year.

[44:52] The people are getting.

[45:00] Carped about, complained about, a lot of the people that are a little bit new here, have no idea how many hours have been spent with the little lady, with youth soccer, with wrestling, with challenges led, with fishing derbys, with all of the events that they've helped with whether they were on the council or not. And it's time we quit.

[45:30] being so down on everybody in the town that it's not building anything up, it's not

[45:36] helping a thing.

[45:39] I feel like you do almost like I didn't want to speak.

[45:43] That's not how we should feel here.

[45:46] And so, you can help that.

[45:49] I know you can't.

[45:50] I've been trying to post other than...

[45:55] Yes, you have.

[45:55] And I've noticed that, so that's why I'm appealing to you.

[45:59] It's typical when you're dealing with things day in and day out

[46:02] to not be, not share everything you can because...

[46:10] But this wasn't the way it was.

[46:14] Not too many years back.

[46:18] Things have changed.

[46:20] Something's broken.

[46:21] I believe we've got good help.

[46:24] with a new police chief. I believe the council can help.

[46:28] Chris does not help. He hurts the town.

[46:34] I don't think he knows that. I think he wants to help the town.

[46:40] Good enough now. So I don't know how to work with that yet.

[46:43] I'm working on that. I'm going to try to figure that out.

[46:46] But we're not like we are better than this.

[46:51] Better than this.

[46:53] So, quick ends of stinking negative, start finding a positive thing once in a while

[46:58] approach if you like it, go on Facebook and do that stuff.

[47:02] Well, we've got to get over this, or we're going to hurt ourselves.

[47:06] And we're just shooting ourselves in a foot.

[47:08] I believe it's coming.

[47:09] I believe it's coming.

[47:10] Well, we'll see.

[47:11] I hope you're right.

[47:20] Well, thank you all for the thing.

[47:24] I don't think anything happened.

[47:40] So this would allow an area measuring 60 by 60 on top of the tons water tower to allow

[47:48] I'll talk to you to place transmission and reception services on top of the tower.

[47:55] We have a similar agreement with AT&T for use of space on the tower.

[48:00] What this requires is the only stay within the big five, six-foot area.

[48:04] They have to not impact the integrity of the top flotter tower.

[48:08] They have to have the appropriate professionals installed the equipment.

[48:12] It has to be removed and the property restored when the term of this agreement is over.

[48:18] either party can provide 30 days notice to terminate it is for one year which automatically

[48:24] we're doing years the town will be receiving $1,000 per month in exchange for authorizing

[48:30] the placement of this equipment on top of the tower and there's

[48:40] multiple towers.

[48:56] So what we have done in the past and what we did with AT&T is we had a separate engineer review

[49:02] the equipment to make sure not only was it going to impact their transition but also

[49:06] that wasn't going to impact the integrity of the tower because what we all want is

[49:10] there's so much equipment up there that it ends up being too heavy for the tower.

[49:14] And that's required that if you have any of those reviews conducted they have to pay

[49:19] the cost of that.

[49:24] So I made a lot of indications on this that I just need to be sure.

[49:30] The least from what I'm reading is effective and definite in automatically reduced for 10 years.

[50:07] Yeah, so it does not have anything to do, but it can be terminated by the landlord or

[50:13] So the way this is drawn is $1,000 per month.

[50:16] Do you want to spend a gauge month?

[50:17] And then there's the annual increase of 3% each year

[50:20] on the anniversary of February and February.

[50:22] But if it is annually, we do.

[50:24] Yeah, that's fine.

[50:25] I mean, that's a good amount.

[50:26] Yeah, good.

[50:27] I found my notes.

[50:28] So the thousand annual and actually, is that fair market value?

[50:35] High research.

[50:37] I don't know that, but yeah, that can be research.

[50:39] OK, we do.

[50:40] We do.

[50:41] OK, yes.

[50:42] We went back and we looked at what we had to currently be at least up there and how much space there had to be taken, and that's how they come up with a factor in a thousand dollars per water transfer for a month.

[50:54] In fact, they had to be negotiated with the election place.

[50:59] And then we have protection in the water tower.

[51:04] It's not an ordinary piece of the noticeable property, it's all drinking water in the structure.

[51:11] The agreement doesn't prohibit interference and make talking responsible for damage or rising from a juice.

[51:19] So it does have tenet warrants installation and all work by or for it out of the property.

[51:25] So it calls no damage to the least premises which can be the tower or the property or a person.

[51:30] and 10-inch all identified, protect, defend and hold harmless town from and against all

[51:35] damage.

[51:35] So if there is damage from the use of the tower, they would have to defend it and

[51:40] identify the town and then they would be responsible for the repair of it.

[51:43] And we're having a separate company maintaining the water counter itself, right, payment and all

[51:48] that.

[51:48] Yes.

[51:49] Okay.

[51:49] So who's temperate is talking responsible for coming out and relocating the equipment while

[51:57] the maintenance is being done?

[51:58] Or are they going to offer us somebody to remove their equipment?

[52:01] So what I have seen in the past is generally they authorize somebody else, but it has to

[52:07] be someone that's qualified, obviously, to get on the tower ever in a bit.

[52:12] Plus the maintenance people that power maintenance contract right now, we've said everything

[52:16] over to them so they're made aware of it, and a lot of times they will show up.

[52:25] Yeah, so there is one, the tenants access to the least premises must provide qualified individuals

[52:30] was provided in their responsible for providing an individual

[52:35] and any damages to the town caused by use of the tower

[52:40] and how things against the town could cost

[52:42] to depend if the town were.

[52:44] If, for example, there were a contamination of water,

[52:48] I don't see the happening, but as soon

[52:50] that happened and then some were probably

[52:51] claiming it's a town for contamination of water

[52:54] because of this cell tower they would have to pay the town

[52:57] to depend on that action.

[53:00] Thank you.

[53:12] I'll make that motion to be doing improvement in power at least agreement with coffee.

[53:17] Zero second.

[53:18] Oh second.

[53:20] All day we're seeing if the bus ain't got it.

[53:22] Aye.

[53:22] Food.

[53:32] I have the next agenda item too.

[53:35] Okay.

[53:36] If you're ready.

[53:37] I am ready.

[53:38] Okay.

[53:38] So this is a public works agreement between Caroline County and the town of

[53:42] Greensboro for a sentient of municipal sewer services. This was discussed by

[53:47] you all at a prior meeting.

[53:53] What's your last word for this?

[53:56] No, it's your name.

[53:58] I think it's my name.

[54:01] You're free to do so.

[54:03] I'm sorry, which one are you in now?

[54:05] Um, the public works agreement under all of business.

[54:10] This is the moment we have discussed, so the moment we're back in Newark, we're all on

[54:14] as we move forward.

[54:15] Yeah, so it's for extension, about a year, maybe two ago, the town entering into a shared

[54:22] road agreement for the County Board of the North Park, some of it's called the North

[54:27] County Board.

[54:28] For the North County Park extension, which required the County to be responsible for

[54:33] for certain parts of the town road,

[54:35] which goes to the wastewater area.

[54:37] As an extension of that, they are now seeking

[54:40] a public works agreement for extension of water and sewer

[54:43] to a facility at the North County Park for public restrooms.

[54:51] So, you all have approved this agreement

[54:55] at a prior meeting, there was some confusion between,

[54:59] in I think the town and the county and we thought that it was a final agreement but it hadn't

[55:06] gone to the county yet and so they came back with it with some amendments and they really

[55:13] just planned our final amendments and what they added to the agreement was that the town

[55:18] include that the town has sufficient capacity to connect the project for purposes that

[55:22] in the agreement, which is obviously blood, or you wouldn't have approved the agreement.

[55:28] The town will be responsible for providing sufficient collection of treatment capacity

[55:32] and obtain and maintain all required government approval to accept the waste water, which you

[55:37] already have, added that the county will be billed for waste water service on a quarterly

[55:43] basis.

[55:44] The language they added was at the same rate and charges imposed on similarly situated

[55:49] users and in the inspection review and approval, they added that the town

[55:58] acknowledges the times of the essence, essentially, so that we can't drag our

[56:02] feet when we're doing any of their requests for approval for the sewer line.

[56:07] And then upon completion of construction of the improvements, the town will have

[56:11] 30 days to provide written acceptance of the project or a punch list and that our

[56:17] acceptance of their permits may not be unreasonably with help. So again, really all Stanford practices.

[56:24] And one of the other things I think is that some of the council members, one of the recent

[56:29] statements that they were only using one EDU, which is between an end of the contract.

[56:34] So we want to make sure that we're right.

[56:37] Yeah, I saw that. And that did go to the Carolina County Commissioners, they have approved it and signed it.

[56:43] Yeah.

[56:44] So are they being billed at commercial rate for the schools, or are they being billed at

[56:48] residential?

[56:49] They are being billed with the goals for all the silver properties that you need.

[56:54] Well, and that's on my fingers.

[56:58] Any other questions?

[57:01] And I will look for a motion to prove this agreement.

[57:06] I'll make a motion.

[57:09] I'll make a motion.

[57:10] All right.

[57:10] I'll say it in a second.

[57:34] So this is just going to update two that's actually going to update one fee schedule and

[57:40] introduce the new one.

[57:41] So you all had approved the Dredging Permit for anybody that's going to be coming into

[57:46] down dating or worrying or trenching.

[57:49] We never set the rate on that, and I think in the past,

[57:52] meaning we decided we were going to do $25 per permit.

[57:56] So it's updating this to a new fee of $25

[57:59] for the Dredge Permit.

[58:01] And then we are looking to revise the rental inspection fee

[58:05] for $125 to $200, this will cover the cost of our MDIA coming out

[58:10] and doing the right-on-spections in blue of the team.

[58:14] All

[58:18] right. Any further discussion? Any questions about this resolution?

[58:23] Yep.

[58:24] And then I have a motion to approve resolution 2026-R.

[58:29] I show you two a resolution of the Mayor and Council of Greengrove,

[58:33] meeting the counties scheduled for to increase fees for certain services provided by the mayor.

[58:40] I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2026-R-R2.

[58:45] Is your second?

[58:45] Okay, thank you all in favor of seeing if I'm not saying hi.

[58:50] Hi.

[58:50] I'm Tony.

[58:52] I have an ask each of you to sign this with your name.

[58:57] All right.

[58:58] I'm going to move on to 2026 resolution R3, a resolution

[59:02] of the talent dream for dumping and preventing the talent

[59:05] agenda in the media policy.

[59:08] So I'm just going to add something quickly just

[59:11] for consideration.

[59:13] I have like 30 different versions of this policy

[59:16] in my email and on my computer and sometimes red lines and some doesn't and there's been different resolutions and different guidelines of policies that went with it.

[59:28] I can no longer tell what was adopted and what edits anyone's requesting and so what I think the best thing to do would be to remove this and come forth at the next meeting with something else and just start over.

[59:52] I think there were different variations, I think there were, and I do apologize for that but I think at this point

[1:00:00] I think to do it just to promote it, sorry, okay. We also have the policy, and then we have the guidelines to be handed out. Yeah, they don't, well, and they all got elected. So, yeah. Let's get to the end. Yeah. All right. So will somebody make the motion to vote?

[1:00:32] You get to read both the actual line.

[1:00:40] Right, it has three adopted a freeze on the agenda.

[1:00:43] So I think you just wrote about the existing town agenda.

[1:00:49] In this time, in 2026 stage, R-21, OK.

[1:00:54] And I got the sign signature on it.

[1:00:55] So that's all we want to do.

[1:00:57] All right.

[1:00:57] We'd like to defend you for a minute, but I'm going to make you

[1:01:00] agree with the 2026.

[1:01:02] 2026?

[1:01:02] Yes.

[1:01:03] R-21.

[1:01:04] Oh, well.

[1:01:05] All right.

[1:01:06] Good.

[1:01:06] That's it.

[1:01:07] All right.

[1:01:08] The motion in the second on the floor to send resolution 2026 cash for that's for one.

[1:01:14] So what happens to three then because one preceded it three just I think three this goes away and we start over.

[1:01:21] Right. We're just preventing you know.

[1:01:23] And you're not even going to so our three would be available to adopt this evening.

[1:01:29] If you wanted to but you're just not going to act on it and we'll do away with it.

[1:01:34] I would you call the roll, please, thank you very much.

[1:01:38] Mr. Hermes?

[1:01:39] Yes.

[1:01:40] Mr. Nune?

[1:01:41] Yes.

[1:01:42] Mr. Harrison?

[1:01:42] Yes.

[1:01:43] Mr. Bronya?

[1:01:44] Yes.

[1:01:44] Thank you.

[1:01:45] All right, thank you.

[1:01:46] I move now to the wardage, 2026-2-9, which is in order to the town of Greenberg to repeal

[1:01:54] and replace the Greenberg town code, chapter 5, titled Occupancy Parments to clarify

[1:02:09] So when we were looking at some of the home sales going on said this was an already existing

[1:02:16] home and it sold.

[1:02:18] The policy was requiring us, so the townhood was requiring them to have a home in section

[1:02:23] before they could move in.

[1:02:25] When we checked with other agencies and other towns, this was something that was never done.

[1:02:31] You have to have an occupancy to move in to a new home being built, but not a home that's

[1:02:35] already been in existing and been living in.

[1:02:39] So this takes out the suburb town code and prevent us from having new people move in and

[1:02:44] having to have an occupancy or actually an occupancy permit to move back into their new home.

[1:02:52] I have a problem with that.

[1:02:54] I'm a low-key with a view destruction.

[1:02:57] But if I buy a house, or less so it's an avenue,

[1:03:00] the state's been made up for six months.

[1:03:02] How do we know it's normal?

[1:03:04] How do we know it meets the middle of the state,

[1:03:05] without an option to see a spectrum?

[1:03:07] Hopefully you had an effective way to buy it.

[1:03:09] If you have a whole inspection, the guy crawled around,

[1:03:11] checks the data and the other things.

[1:03:12] But he doesn't go through and check out what it's all about.

[1:03:16] I mean, when my daughter had one

[1:03:22] I mean, I see both sides of this, but I don't see the difference between a new old and

[1:03:27] an existing one.

[1:03:29] I mean, there's faults at all.

[1:03:31] And I just think it'll work.

[1:03:33] If you were required for a new construction, why would you do this bar for any young people?

[1:03:38] I don't know if you want to put a time limit or distance of something that's been indicated for a

[1:03:41] while, but I can tell you what one of the recent ones was, somebody purchased a home here in

[1:03:47] settlement on Thursday they contacted us on Friday and they did not have the

[1:03:52] inspection done which meant they couldn't move in and they had already sold

[1:03:55] her other home and was trying to move in down here in the weekend. So it was a

[1:04:00] damp on it so I don't know how you want it. I think most of correct if I'm wrong

[1:04:04] but most of the homes or schools have to have a home inspection. For the

[1:04:09] electric company we'll turn electric on and electric in right so you have that

[1:04:13] the electrician can't expect it.

[1:04:15] Right.

[1:04:16] So, I mean, that's that part of it.

[1:04:20] Right.

[1:04:20] The rest of it is I mean the smartest,

[1:04:22] the beautiful view of it.

[1:04:25] You buy it all?

[1:04:27] I think the C-4 side is all right.

[1:04:28] If it's an existing old image,

[1:04:31] it's in 4 shades.

[1:04:33] Well, that's your buying it.

[1:04:35] It's only yours. That's the best.

[1:04:36] Yeah.

[1:04:37] Know what you buy.

[1:04:39] If I can, my problem with the socket and C-perm,

[1:04:42] thing is you build a new home which I have now sell it. The county comes in for

[1:04:48] MDIA comes in and does a fun girl out and move in. Not gonna pay the town

[1:04:53] $200 to let them move in. That got changed. Okay.

[1:05:01] That's what you're looking to

[1:05:03] change. Yeah. That's cool. Well, we changed that for new homes. We changed that.

[1:05:09] This was just something that came up, and we had several real terms reach out to us and new homeowners reach out to us.

[1:05:17] And we just did a little investigation, we looked into this, we checked with MAA, we checked with some other towns to see,

[1:05:23] and they didn't have this policy in life. So this is why we directed it to bring to your attention.

[1:05:28] It's up to you if you want to.

[1:05:30] And there's also, I mean, I will clarify that it's not just that you're using the

[1:05:35] doctor's experiment only on new bills. Any time there is a change in the US, you have

[1:05:39] to have an occupancy experiment. Any time a structure undergoes alterations when required

[1:05:45] by building codes, you would have to have an occupancy experiment. So there are multiple

[1:05:49] players, which is not a change or form of ownership.

[1:05:53] All right, so King, we did somebody respond to this. Obviously, we have to have another

[1:05:59] I had some additional questions, that was part of it, what Pete said.

[1:06:08] And then something that I just didn't, I don't think, make it in the strapped was that

[1:06:14] the provisional allowing license to Maryland and Inspector to perform the inspection, when

[1:06:19] the only changes ownership, it gives the town the report for review and allows the town

[1:06:26] to reject an adequate inspection and conducted so I think that what I think that was

[1:06:34] now will be took out so what we took out was that there was an inspection on change

[1:06:38] of home ownership okay so that's how to remove that so you all can discuss if you want

[1:06:43] that to stay in or out okay because right now the code does have an inspection upon change

[1:06:50] of ownership or occupancy.

[1:06:52] What this version does is there would not be that in section.

[1:06:56] So change of ownership or occupancy wouldn't trigger

[1:07:00] getting a new occupancy permit.

[1:07:01] Only new construction, change of use,

[1:07:04] then we go from like residential to commercial,

[1:07:07] or a kitchen from a, you know, whatever.

[1:07:11] And what constitutes an imminent threat?

[1:07:14] What do you decide to an imminent threat is?

[1:07:16] Which section are you in?

[1:07:17] I just made this, that's okay.

[1:07:25] It's in B on 5.5, versus suspension of reverse rotation.

[1:07:30] Yeah, thank you.

[1:07:30] Shelf-benders, non-cigarette, similar

[1:07:35] threat.

[1:07:36] So, really, that would have to be the insect or that conducts it.

[1:07:42] Oh, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:07:45] That would have to be based on the infectors of the end,

[1:07:48] that it's an imminent threat to public health safety.

[1:07:50] Thank you, Walter. Really, I've only seen that in a very extreme circumstances. Electrical

[1:07:58] wires hanging or dead lighting somewhere, risk of immediate fire.

[1:08:05] And then, it's a bit noticeable, Lee. 5-7 on state's near-use and occupancy permit shall

[1:08:14] be issued for occupancy or appropriate, I guess, which leads in a reason for non-payment

[1:08:20] of the noticeable services. That wasn't in the original draft. What happens when a UNO

[1:08:26] is required for new construction slash change of use, but there is a disputed, reprieve,

[1:08:33] system, the noticeable reason. They wouldn't be able to get the use in occupancy. Yeah. I mean,

[1:08:38] I think that the goal was to try to, so if you are purchasing a home and the seller unpaid

[1:08:51] water or sewer connection fees or something like that. You don't want them to be able to get the

[1:08:55] use in occupancy to sell them home until they pay off any of those due to the town.

[1:08:59] With that call up in a title search, when do we fall in our property here,

[1:09:03] it had leads against it, and we did a title search to make sure they were satisfied before we...

[1:09:08] It shouldn't, it doesn't always, because a lot of times it takes the title company reaching out to

[1:09:13] the town to make sure that all payments are satisfied. Sometimes their instances where

[1:09:19] you might be purchasing a home, halfway through a quarter,

[1:09:22] like where a bill may not pass you yet,

[1:09:25] but you're technically responsible for it.

[1:09:27] The title company might not call the town and say,

[1:09:30] we have settlement closing on August 20th,

[1:09:32] what's the amount to do so that we can add it

[1:09:34] to the settlement sheet so that is yours

[1:09:36] without the account going forward?

[1:09:38] Okay.

[1:09:40] We know a lot of that part of it.

[1:09:42] Where settlement doesn't contact us

[1:09:44] and then it goes to the courthouse to be reported

[1:09:51] Yeah, so that is something else that we are trying to resolve.

[1:09:56] Now, within this ordinance, but separately for that.

[1:09:59] I

[1:10:07] think it was all I had.

[1:10:09] I would like to go ahead and introduce it.

[1:10:11] Okay,

[1:10:17] any changes that need to be made,

[1:10:21] they probably should be made out before we bring that to the next meeting.

[1:10:30] I mean, you could have the public hearing, and you could also, you could always have

[1:10:34] a motion to amend that for the public hearing if you hear from the public, if okay,

[1:10:40] for swing to move to one to move to, yeah.

[1:10:43] All right, so it will be in the public then, a commission or minute, all right.

[1:10:47] Thank you.

[1:11:06] We're doing this because we have changed to be ten inches, but in one chapter it says six inches, and in the other it says ten, so we're trying to put the two together so you don't get two different answers.

[1:11:21] So I had a note that I would move to post-pound consideration in final action when ordinance

[1:11:27] 26th code dash pen until the next regular council meeting on August 11th I specifically

[1:11:34] requested in writing that because there was currently no place to access up-to-date current

[1:11:39] sign ordinances, resolutions and policy those documents be forwarded for comparison to the

[1:11:46] proposed revisions. The prior ordinance specifically referenced as the basis for amendment ordinance 25-6 was not provided to

[1:11:56] men. So before council can is asked to take final action or requested council be provided ordinance 25-6. The currently effective versions of

[1:12:07] the affected provisions of chapter 4-11 in confirmation of legal counsel as to which addition of the internal property maintenance

[1:12:15] is presently adopted by the town. This will allow Council to raise the

[1:12:19] opportunity to verify what this proposed ordinance accurately reflects this

[1:12:26] consistent with the existing world before going. So this particular ordinance is in

[1:12:32] the town code which is posted on the air website. The ordinance from 2025-0-6 was the

[1:12:40] one that we already amended to 10 inches. This is one from the towncode

[1:12:46] currently that still says six inches. So it is available online through the

[1:12:51] towncode on our website. It's already incorporated in there. This has not

[1:12:59] changed the one that we were referencing here. We already changed on September

[1:13:05] Remember the 18th, we amended that chapter 11 to 10 inches, but we found that there was

[1:13:13] another section in the town code that still had six inches and this is what we're amending.

[1:13:19] So it is on our website on the town code under that chapter in section.

[1:13:26] So basically we're just going from six to 10.

[1:13:29] We change.

[1:13:31] We change.

[1:13:33] I heard you say.

[1:13:34] Yes.

[1:13:35] We're not taking the final action.

[1:13:38] This is a Senator Nelson.

[1:13:39] My commission will be monitoring this order.

[1:13:43] Thank you.

[1:13:45] In order of 2026 that is school 11,

[1:13:48] in order to tell a green group to amend,

[1:13:51] we need to tell a green group chapter seven title,

[1:13:53] residential housing to provide for residential inspection on an annual basis.

[1:14:01] So this was something that was decided a while back that we would go from two-year

[1:14:06] inspection to one-year inspection.

[1:14:08] We are making a clarification here.

[1:14:11] We did have multiple complaints from apartment complex and after researching this, the town

[1:14:17] should have been doing inspections of these apartment complexes regardless of whether they

[1:14:22] are from sponsored from the Department of Aging or the U.S.D.A. and so forth.

[1:14:29] So we just put a clarification in here that a residential resident, excuse me, a residential

[1:14:34] rental dwelling unit includes each unit in an apartment complex as well.

[1:14:40] Like I said, we get our research and family shifting, doing a rental inspection all night.

[1:14:47] So this just clarifies what you all have already discussed about changing it from a two-year

[1:14:51] a rental inspection to a one-year inspection, and then we just wanted to make sure we clarified

[1:14:57] that the rental inspection should also be...

[1:15:02] So, the ordinance address 10% in access and constitutional inspection requirements. The remainder

[1:15:14] of the town code does. The town code talks about giving notice for inspections, what

[1:15:19] happens if you fail inspections, giving notice for a career, whether it's going to be a

[1:15:23] inspection. I don't have it in front of me right in a second, but what exists within

[1:15:28] the time it does. Yeah, I didn't have it in there. In the future, something does exist

[1:15:33] and I've asked the right, it's pretty easy reply just to tell me where it's at. I just missed

[1:15:38] it, sorry. I've got a lot of emails, so.

[1:15:43] Well, I'll introduce it though. You know the question?

[1:16:00] So we finally got our down to 2026 tax roll from the county and it indicated that our

[1:16:09] property tax or projective property tax revenue was going to be $1,110,480.47.

[1:16:19] When we did our budget process, the property tax revenue was going to be $1,040,121.

[1:16:28] So we are going to be getting $70,350, $59.49 extra than what we budgeted for, so I wanted

[1:16:35] council aware of that and then determine how we are going to place that money. Whether it's going to be in reserve or

[1:16:47] So the tab manager and I have discussed this and we'll recommend it to the council that we put the money in reserve

[1:17:19] So the sales total $22,300, the commission was $2,230, which give us a debt profit of $20,70, and that's not been budgeted as well.

[1:17:36] If all of these things were listed as assets, then they went into the general one.

[1:17:42] I think it makes you go where it is.

[1:17:46] If you want to.

[1:17:47] So public works has two things when you're amizing the public works, and at least that tree isn't going to be pleased.

[1:17:55] That's the way I feel.

[1:17:56] Yeah, that's the way the money was put in the capital but I think it's going to be

[1:18:08] But I mean if you're going to go back to the department, so just put it in the capital

[1:18:12] that's my name.

[1:18:13] I think it's a very good question.

[1:18:15] Right.

[1:18:15] That's my name.

[1:18:16] I think it's a very good question.

[1:18:17] That's my name.

[1:18:18] People in this building will built in Buts.

[1:18:20] Correct.

[1:18:21] Yeah.

[1:18:22] I assume they have a consensus on that as well.

[1:18:24] Yes.

[1:18:26] We're going to push back into the one to the police and the one to the public world.

[1:18:32] I'll be part.

[1:18:34] All right.

[1:18:35] Thank you.

[1:18:37] All right.

[1:18:38] Page two.

[1:18:40] The Maryland World War.

[1:18:42] In the United States.

[1:18:45] So, I received a meeting request to talk to them about the Maryland World War Association

[1:18:54] wastewater operator apprenticeship program.

[1:18:57] Now, they've been trying to get us to do this since I've been here, and I think they've

[1:19:01] been trying to get somebody.

[1:19:02] And what this does is it substantiates and sends somebody to come and work in our wastewater

[1:19:07] treatment plan as a free-year program, but we would have to pay them.

[1:19:10] And there is a scale that they sent on how much money we would have to pay them for them to come in and train.

[1:19:19] With full time position, it would include benefits.

[1:19:22] But at the end of that three years, they would be a certified operator at our wasteful equipment plant.

[1:19:28] I think one of our current public works employees have to do that.

[1:19:31] Our current public works employee is not through this program.

[1:19:35] They already had his water certification.

[1:19:37] We do have him down there two to three days a week training for an operator.

[1:19:43] He's got a few more years to go, and what'll happen is, once he gets that certification,

[1:19:49] he would go down to the waist for a cricket fight, but you still need a second person.

[1:19:53] You would need two people.

[1:19:54] That would reduce our contract to Susquehanna.

[1:19:58] This would just give us that second person.

[1:20:01] And my problem is, we didn't mind you for this, for this, this, this, we're here.

[1:20:07] I think it's something that is great, and like the greater we're going to see, okay.

[1:20:13] Would we be able to do like 50 percent?

[1:20:16] We just got for your, please, visit this January, do you happen this year?

[1:20:21] Yes.

[1:20:21] Do you see it that season?

[1:20:23] I can.

[1:20:24] Because I mean, I, I agree, you need to play it off right now.

[1:20:26] You're looking at, say, four years now.

[1:20:28] And what's the other guy in the certification?

[1:20:30] but I mean, you know, it sounds like a great program.

[1:20:32] I think it's something that we could really utilize.

[1:20:36] They've got several people right now

[1:20:39] that are looking for spots to start in.

[1:20:42] But absolutely, if you want to take a look at some January,

[1:20:44] I just think if we can't afford it,

[1:20:46] they don't wait here, but they're like half a pistol.

[1:20:49] See where we're at, the budget,

[1:20:51] see where we're at, see how much money we're at.

[1:20:54] When they start somebody into the program,

[1:20:57] we can't continue.

[1:21:02] I think that our objective for many years has been, I don't know, to pull these down here or push them right away.

[1:21:10] So we don't need to have another exotic, a lot of likes in the sky.

[1:21:14] In order to get there, though, we would have to hire this person for three years and luckily $2,000 or $6,000 or $7,000 a year in addition.

[1:21:24] we're paying and something to have.

[1:21:26] So it's a significant amount of money to have to pay and give that up first minute.

[1:21:31] If it's currently down and gets through in the three years, the theory they could take

[1:21:36] and we're in such a bad place, we're going to go away, but in three years we have to pay

[1:21:42] this money to do it.

[1:21:43] Right.

[1:21:44] So we can take and we'll talk about that later, but that's just okay.

[1:21:47] I'll just go over there.

[1:22:01] So I had to add black representative a couple of months ago and sit down.

[1:22:06] I knew that there were several employees that were actually interested in this.

[1:22:10] This is the cost of the town, other than a push of advising to pay a bill for bill.

[1:22:15] So what would happen is the employee is totally responsible for paying for this, not the town, but then we would just deduct it out of their paychecks and send an electronic payment to that flat.

[1:22:29] It's made for...

[1:22:30] Yes, yes.

[1:22:31] Again, we're...

[1:22:33] It's just a matter of us paying for this.

[1:22:34] All right.

[1:22:36] That we deduct from the paychecks.

[1:22:38] Okay.

[1:22:39] I guess you're in motion?

[1:22:41] Yeah, I just need a approval.

[1:22:54] All right, so if I make a motion then we allow the employee to pursue this black protein

[1:23:06] Thank you.

[1:23:07] All right.

[1:23:09] Thank you.

[1:23:12] All right.

[1:23:12] Thank you.

[1:23:13] You have pulled through the comprehensive water tank.

[1:23:16] No.

[1:23:16] Tower maintenance program.

[1:23:17] This is just a notification.

[1:23:20] An announcement.

[1:23:20] I sent this out to you prior when the RFP was done.

[1:23:26] It'll be coming up.

[1:23:28] The deadline is August 27th.

[1:23:30] We've already had at least 10 companies reach out to us.

[1:23:34] for this. I haven't received any gifts yet, but hopefully by August 27th we will, and then, of course, we will hopefully award this

[1:23:41] sale in September. And this is to take over the maintenance of the two water towers that we currently have. We currently spend over $30,000 a year on this two

[1:24:04] So we've already had one company come in so they request a date and then usually the public

[1:24:09] work supervise it takes them out and shows them the two water towers.

[1:24:14] I've had several rejects.

[1:24:15] A little bit more detail about the maintenance in which required because one of them has

[1:24:19] It's just been painted, so that's not gonna be needing

[1:24:21] another paint job for eight years.

[1:24:24] And that falls into, did not want to be able to charge

[1:24:27] because it's already been painted, at least one of us.

[1:24:31] I do have some additional questions.

[1:24:32] This is where I was getting confused with this one

[1:24:35] and another one.

[1:24:39] So we're committing for 10 years.

[1:24:41] What is the maximum potential cost in can the town

[1:24:45] on Germany and you will leave without the panel.

[1:25:09] Hi, Paula, Joe, it's for me, I want to start reading on this.

[1:25:12] Thank you very much.

[1:25:16] I'll see you in a second.

[1:25:19] There

[1:25:27] is a particular term I think, and maybe I'm missing it,

[1:25:32] but this wouldn't be the contract.

[1:25:34] So what all this is request for proposal

[1:25:36] so that companies propose to the town what services they

[1:25:39] will provide, and include within that an annual schedule

[1:25:44] of maintenance activity proposed for each tank

[1:25:46] for the next 10 years and it's getting a lot of things to do to make it an activity.

[1:25:50] So, it certainly contemplates entering into an agreement that long, but what it asks

[1:25:56] for is to companies to submit for a whole town saying, for the next 10 years, this is

[1:26:01] what we would provide, this is how much it would cost, and each kind of category should be

[1:26:06] broken out in particular costs.

[1:26:08] So, we'll go up over to the district.

[1:26:10] No, so it should just be what the town is asked for and part of what you all will have

[1:26:15] to evaluate in your criteria when you receive these proposals back is what each company is

[1:26:20] looking to offer for a 10-year and what schedule they're proposing for 10-years, what

[1:26:25] maintenance they believe is necessary over this 10-years.

[1:26:28] Okay.

[1:26:29] Thank you.

[1:26:29] Yeah.

[1:26:34] Um, request for a part-time administrative assistant.

[1:26:37] How would it be?

[1:26:40] I don't think so.

[1:26:42] She's going to be part-time assistant.

[1:26:47] She's asking for a part-time assistant.

[1:26:50] I think it would be feasible.

[1:26:59] So, currently two part-time positions we will take in, this will be good one full time we will take benefits.

[1:27:07] So, I know the chief needs somebody and he's looked at the resumes that we've gotten so far in the market,

[1:27:15] We've been looking, actually, doing another payment for that position.

[1:27:20] My concern is that we have gotten several grants.

[1:27:26] And it's difficult for me to keep up with them.

[1:27:28] So, I mean, a lot of the next step home, and they've tried to keep up with all the demands

[1:27:30] that we've got going on here.

[1:27:32] But each grant has different specific requirements on how to do submit payments,

[1:27:38] requests for payments, they require a financial reporting at the end of the year, so trying

[1:27:48] to keep up with all of these, and I love getting these grants, but then you guys stay

[1:27:51] on top of it.

[1:27:52] So this person would take care of that, the PIA request.

[1:27:55] So all of the PIA requests there, I didn't have Julie do about the total number of PIA requests

[1:28:01] We had, since 2025, 2026, and so far, we've had 138 BIA requests in that timeframe.

[1:28:13] A lot of them deal with financial records, we have to be researched, redacted, checked over,

[1:28:20] you know, a lot of our bank statements are 22, 23 pages long, so they take time to get those out.

[1:28:26] So there's a lot of detail work that we'll be able to do right now on June.

[1:28:29] So I'm doing all the EIA requests and I'm doing all of the research and

[1:28:35] re-acting everything and then following the call back.

[1:28:39] So this person could also assist with, we still have a lot of stuff upstairs

[1:28:44] that still has to be gone for real.

[1:28:47] That still has not, no one's had the time to do this.

[1:28:51] I think you all know that when you come in the clear office here,

[1:28:54] stay up for constantly busy.

[1:28:56] I don't think there's this and it's a constant struggle for us to try to get things done.

[1:29:04] So I guess my question is, are we looking at our two parties for what are achieved

[1:29:09] and what are you?

[1:29:11] Or are you looking at our, what, what, what one for what my person should do is work out.

[1:29:17] I, I was recommending two parties, but I'm just asking, do you think one person could do both tasks?

[1:29:23] The only concern with that is that the employer is going to be as happy as he can to describe

[1:29:27] the yours and I wouldn't worry about the yours.

[1:29:30] And that's my own problem is that he gets to a point where he needs that person more.

[1:29:37] He's building up a police force and then he's also getting grants and starting programs.

[1:29:44] His minister is consistent.

[1:29:47] One of the things that is mandated by law is that I need to have victim advocates

[1:29:52] get there and that person has to be available and has to respond back to any

[1:29:57] compiling it where they've been within.

[1:30:00] It's certain amount of time, and that we have to meet those, to that time, I get 24, 48 hour notifications, and so forth. I don't know if I'm up for it if we try it with one, but I don't know if that's going to be, I'm just asking. Well, my mind thought, everybody, the brain's telling me that, looking for part-time work is one thing, but if you offer somebody a full-time job with benefits in today's world, you're going to draw a different crowd.

[1:30:33] So that's fun when I said I'm just thinking if we swing the pot, we draw a better caliber

[1:30:38] of person that's willing to come in and work, even if that's just like it.

[1:30:44] So that's whatever you've got to recommend, you're recommending part of it, that's just

[1:30:47] what you want.

[1:30:49] So I do have something to say in reference to that, so maybe on your side send me a minute

[1:30:55] We could ask North Carolina High School, they have a senior,

[1:30:59] so may all work study a program that could come in here

[1:31:02] and do that.

[1:31:04] Well, I mean, we can definitely do that.

[1:31:06] I do have to do that.

[1:31:06] No, that way doesn't falsify down any.

[1:31:09] I mean, maybe we reach out to maybe some seniors

[1:31:12] that would make some of their time coming in here

[1:31:15] throughout the week.

[1:31:16] Yeah, women town that would do the classroom.

[1:31:20] The grants would be somebody that's

[1:31:22] to be able to come in and figure that.

[1:31:25] I did have funding for this for one year.

[1:31:27] So if you want to hear my funding, sure.

[1:31:34] So in the new process that we've got, where bills come in,

[1:31:38] and we're reviewing everything, there's a tax bill that came in.

[1:31:42] And I researched it, configured a lot.

[1:31:43] We have tax bill, property tax bill that came in.

[1:31:47] I took it, I researched it, and I actually

[1:31:49] went back five years.

[1:31:50] We have a contract with Sprint, it goes all the way back to 1999.

[1:31:56] In that original contract, it states that the town is responsible for paying the property

[1:32:02] taxes of the equipment on water tower.

[1:32:07] And then the town was supposed to be invoicing Sprint for those property taxes.

[1:32:12] I don't know why it was written that way because no other contract releases it that way.

[1:32:17] I went back and I guess during COVID that got dropped.

[1:32:20] So for the last five years we've paid the property tax for the water tower for Sprint.

[1:32:26] I have since reached out to Sprint and had a conversation with them, we have sent them a bill

[1:32:32] and we've all put back for this or just expecting a payment and that payment is roughly 23,000,

[1:32:41] And that was money that we've not budgeted for, that we did pay out since 2024, the 2026 bill I did ask for them to pay directly on to the ASC, and we've already done so to re-write that agreement that we've had with them, but them to pay directly to the county's.

[1:33:09] So I just was able to look over the list tonight because I had asked for it in advance and

[1:33:14] I didn't receive it of the PIA request and I'm going to open the admit that I have

[1:33:20] the pulpit for a lot of these requests.

[1:33:24] Unfortunately, I've been placed in a position where I'm having to submit residential PIAs

[1:33:29] for information I should be per V2 as a council member in order to receive.

[1:33:34] So, again, on the call for fair, if we can establish the policy, which I presented, which

[1:33:43] also didn't make it on the agenda, to comply, as Jerry mentioned earlier, with Council

[1:33:50] or Funds for Information, that would significantly reduce this list.

[1:33:57] So that isn't for me, but I don't have a list of grants.

[1:34:02] So we don't have council, I don't know if anybody else in the council is aware of how many grants for the volume of grants to be in.

[1:34:10] Well, I announce it every time we get a grant.

[1:34:12] I'm going to say she tells us but I don't know.

[1:34:14] If you're going to run up, tell us what you know about accounting.

[1:34:16] If you look into charter, we are a legislative branch.

[1:34:20] Right.

[1:34:22] The administrator side, the only one that's entitled to the information unless he chooses to share it here, she and the fund, is the mayor.

[1:34:29] They're in charge of the administrative branch.

[1:34:31] We're the legislative branch.

[1:34:33] All this stuff you're asking for, I mean, on a PIA,

[1:34:37] yes, it's information that's available,

[1:34:38] but it starts something as a council member

[1:34:40] that you don't need a special card of blood.

[1:34:42] Unless it requires our action or decision.

[1:34:46] We deal with the ordinances and the other stuff.

[1:34:48] And according to the charter,

[1:34:49] the mayor is in charge of the administrative branch

[1:34:52] which she runs the office and takes care

[1:34:53] of the day-to-day administration.

[1:34:55] And I'm asking for financial information.

[1:34:57] So you're saying that part of our legislative duty is not there to receive finances?

[1:35:01] Okay, when they present the budget, they give us year-to-day expenditures, and that's what we do.

[1:35:06] We don't pester the hell out of them every day with an email asking for bank records, and then they're redacted, and they're sharing all social media, and then we get hacked.

[1:35:14] We have had more information actions, you start to share some of that information.

[1:35:21] That is because, like you said, there are decades.

[1:35:25] Now with that calls a security issue.

[1:35:28] And to my knowledge, I've asked for proof where I've posted a bank statement.

[1:35:33] I have posted spreadsheets that I made from the bank statements.

[1:35:38] But I've not posted bank statements.

[1:35:41] So that is inaccurate.

[1:35:43] Well, I do want to clarify one thing, because Joe, you had stated earlier that she's entitled

[1:35:47] to me.

[1:35:48] That whole problem there is everything that she has gotten.

[1:35:53] She has gotten everything that she's requested, except for one document that ended up going

[1:36:00] to an ethics committee.

[1:36:01] They denied it.

[1:36:02] They ended up going to the Maryland PIA, on Buzzman.

[1:36:05] They also denied it.

[1:36:07] I'm so happy right there.

[1:36:08] I'm so talking.

[1:36:09] You can talk after me.

[1:36:10] And then what she has requested recently is fiscal year 24th, fiscal year 24th, fiscal year 25,

[1:36:20] which the on-listment told me that whether you're a council member or whether you're resident, you can be charged.

[1:36:26] So I got educated on those.

[1:36:28] She's not been denied that a bill was sent to her with a tentative amount of hours.

[1:36:33] It would take for us to go through and find the information, redact the information, and then get it sent out.

[1:36:40] But that's a lot of data and time spent to get that out.

[1:36:44] She's also requested a lot of detail about the health insurance.

[1:36:48] So again, going back and trying to figure this out,

[1:36:51] she's entitled to two hours of the time

[1:36:54] and then after two hours, it's fillable.

[1:36:56] That's where we're at.

[1:36:57] Regardless if it's electronic or not,

[1:36:59] it's still the number of hours.

[1:37:00] So she's not in denied that information.

[1:37:03] I just want to put that out there.

[1:37:05] So in reference to the one that was denied by the budget,

[1:37:09] and I agreed to drop it because she gave me some insight on information that I'm entitled

[1:37:16] to that was less broad, and I then requested that and still haven't received that.

[1:37:23] So that's where left on is, there should not be Lindsey Kurtney at her home, but when

[1:37:28] I asked for 23, 24, 25 bank statements for a camp that are no longer open and have just

[1:37:36] been populated for auditors and are readily accessible. Why should there be time you get it together in

[1:37:43] redaction? They're closed against. Yeah so I unfortunately can't add into that just because I'm not

[1:37:50] here on the day today so I have no idea where the papers are or how they're stored or any of that.

[1:37:55] All the trust accounts that were closed in I believe January or something like that.

[1:38:01] So all of those accounts have since been closed. They've been gathered for the auditors.

[1:38:05] They're right on the accessible.

[1:38:07] They're not, but they're not really accessible.

[1:38:09] Why is it that you want to go back that far?

[1:38:13] That's past.

[1:38:15] If you want to concentrate on what's happening now, that's fine.

[1:38:18] But that's all been past budgeted.

[1:38:21] We've both budgeted budgeted.

[1:38:22] If being voted it, I get that.

[1:38:25] But I just don't understand why you want to go back that far.

[1:38:28] Because I found things partly that I'm concerned about.

[1:38:31] So I can only imagine what.

[1:38:34] and given the situation that we were in the previous town manager that never

[1:38:38] got addressed, why would you want to know? Why would you, my question to you is why

[1:38:43] when you want to know other side islands? That's what we have to have the

[1:38:48] order. I mean we have counties looking at it preparing it for the order and then

[1:38:52] we independent account and then we also have the order. I mean this isn't, it isn't

[1:38:57] like we're sitting here and she's doing all the work and we're taking her out of work.

[1:39:00] I mean, there's systems of checks and balances in place.

[1:39:03] Did you read the auditors report?

[1:39:05] Did you read how there were forced balances

[1:39:08] without writing solutions?

[1:39:10] I know I'm talking Greek, because this is a bad idea.

[1:39:11] I know I'm talking Greek, but some of that stuff

[1:39:13] was just simple booking errors, and they reclassified it.

[1:39:16] What through it, we did the stuff,

[1:39:18] and we switched back to the other side.

[1:39:19] They forced things to fit the balance, the statement balance.

[1:39:24] Well, you had the opportunity to talk to the auditors

[1:39:26] when they were here, when they were on the line.

[1:39:29] My other thing is you've gotten all of this data and I keep hearing that you know worse

[1:39:34] come into life that we've covered up stuff. I just wanted to know what you found out

[1:39:38] of that support. You've gotten almost a year's worth of bank statements, credit card statements

[1:39:42] and all of that. Where's the fraud? Where's the corruption? Well what I found it was major

[1:39:49] and never got any answers on and now it's turned to allegations of fact which were not true.

[1:39:56] it was because it was information being without was the money $21,000 that was

[1:40:03] transferred out of the bank account to an organization that nobody will

[1:40:09] tell me who owns the organization, who authorized the funds to be transferred.

[1:40:16] The EIN number, the W9, the agreement between the town and the organization, I

[1:40:23] I sent a whole list of questions that I had.

[1:40:25] And what I got back is, no records do exist

[1:40:28] besides the transaction statement for the money

[1:40:32] that was transferred.

[1:40:33] But I'm not in my way.

[1:40:34] Who wants to rush this transfer?

[1:40:36] So when we went back through, and this has been explained to you,

[1:40:38] you also have the, you could have sit there

[1:40:41] and gone through the binder that showed you

[1:40:43] bank statements of this individual,

[1:40:45] actually the town of Greensboro events,

[1:40:48] the receipts of everything for the basketball program.

[1:40:51] and it was given to you in the beginning of the meeting

[1:40:54] and then it was given to you at the end of the meeting.

[1:40:57] Well, it was a binder that had all of this in there.

[1:41:00] If you're a doctor,

[1:41:01] the one that Brandon was holding is just

[1:41:03] and told that they could look at it.

[1:41:06] So he said, I have it all right here.

[1:41:09] I said, great, let's go over it.

[1:41:11] I've heard anything else.

[1:41:12] All right, so we're just going around the circles.

[1:41:15] Well, I wanted to know, so the thing I wanted to say

[1:41:18] if the channel was really stealing something being jailed on it, because we do that

[1:41:24] water year after year. I mean it's not my money. That's probably above what I'm

[1:41:29] saying is if something is bad and we'll come out to life, it's not your job as a

[1:41:33] counsel person like he said, let's just lay there to sit here. Well, and do that

[1:41:38] all the time. There's time involved in that, which is office time that's taken away

[1:41:43] from their daily duties. There's also the expense. I mean, there's been a new

[1:41:49] factor of time as well, I'm saying. It's made to seem like it's a big production.

[1:41:54] It doesn't have to be. Again, I do this for a living. I could operate this

[1:41:59] information in five minutes. On your system. Your system is not like the system at all.

[1:42:05] It's a no. That is not that way at all. You have no idea what the systems are

[1:42:13] like in here. Yeah, yeah, folks, right? That's a great book.

[1:42:17] Like you're talking about that. So I'll be doing this. When we bring her in one day and say,

[1:42:22] this is what we never legislated for. I understand it, but so she knows. That way,

[1:42:27] there's no confusion or no anything. That's the same.

[1:42:32] Joe, I just think this is your conspiracy to make the town hall look bad. And the reason I say that is,

[1:42:38] she puts all social media. If you work today, I will write for you. It's called reach out to you.

[1:42:43] Can we call for order, please?

[1:42:45] I don't know, I don't know.

[1:42:47] This could be like a clue, such a thing.

[1:42:49] No, I actually can't.

[1:42:51] I would like to tell you, I would like to tell you.

[1:42:54] No, there should not be a lot of it.

[1:42:55] When you're a current kid, there should be an extra word.

[1:42:58] It makes it, it bobs the author's name.

[1:43:01] It's not, it's being made to seem like, oh my God.

[1:43:06] Well, that's not the end of it.

[1:43:07] Why do people use it?

[1:43:08] It's unnecessary.

[1:43:08] Well, this is why I am requesting a dollar number on what it would take for forensic audit to go back three years, and that'll take care of this.

[1:43:19] Okay, I'm not in a favor of wasting taxing the dollars.

[1:43:24] Well, when you've got somebody that's constantly saying, more's coming out, more's coming out.

[1:43:29] You're not a forensic order.

[1:43:34] I mean if we wasted that much time, you had it already come to the fairing of an ask

[1:43:39] to assist in all for dinner, nobody ever reached out to her.

[1:43:53] Why is it about getting a part-time assistant?

[1:43:56] I think that am I not correct that the funding in the budget now for a part-time assistant

[1:44:02] has to be used to the farm for the years.

[1:44:05] So if the trend in many homes on the streets decided to need a part-time assistant, the money

[1:44:09] in their practice, a favor that.

[1:44:11] So what you're asking for is roughly $20,000

[1:44:14] to get a part-time assistant for a year for now

[1:44:17] that is not currently in the button.

[1:44:19] Correct.

[1:44:22] We just put some stuff in.

[1:44:24] And to follow up on what Pete is saying,

[1:44:26] I think that once you get this person in here

[1:44:29] as a administrative assistant and the chief,

[1:44:32] when he becomes chief, it's his to go on the ground

[1:44:34] and see what it is that he needs to have done.

[1:44:36] Because you're in a stuff down there

[1:44:37] that needs to be reporting to him,

[1:44:39] that he needs the system to do.

[1:44:40] So you may be able to find out if you could mold this one first with a day in where there

[1:44:44] came the building to do both.

[1:44:46] So if you make this one, I'm going back to the council and get permission to be able

[1:44:51] to buy them and all of that.

[1:44:53] But right now, she's asking for her question moving forward for the administrative system

[1:44:58] to help with all the grants.

[1:45:02] Okay, I may have to pass time to consideration.

[1:45:11] Well, there's a motion that the protest party is going to recite.

[1:45:17] Hearing none, the motion goes on.

[1:45:24] Is there any other questions about this position? Anybody willing to make a motion to approve your request?

[1:45:47] So you're making a motion to approve your request for a port time position from the Ministry of Precision and funding up to 23,000 of the crewwrecks.

[1:45:57] Yes.

[1:45:58] A little second.

[1:46:00] I'll say it.

[1:46:00] Would you call the county?

[1:46:04] Health and Ernest?

[1:46:05] Yeah.

[1:46:06] How's the name?

[1:46:08] I will say yes.

[1:46:09] The emotion is changed by saying we're using the spread money for the campaign.

[1:46:15] Yes.

[1:46:16] All right.

[1:46:16] Would you like your...

[1:46:17] All right.

[1:46:22] Yes.

[1:46:27] Thank you.

[1:46:28] Commissioner Harrison?

[1:46:29] Yes.

[1:46:30] Thank you.

[1:46:31] Thank you.

[1:46:34] No.

[1:46:36] Thank you.

[1:46:36] Extraordinary code enforcement.

[1:46:38] Thank you.

[1:46:43] I want to put forth an outsource code enforcement.

[1:46:47] Currently we have suspended all code enforcement, just to do some issues that the product works

[1:46:54] employees were enduring.

[1:46:57] We did reach out to a couple, MDIA and another outsource company to see if we could find

[1:47:04] out what the rates would be.

[1:47:05] But at this point, you know, I'm looking to outsource this.

[1:47:09] This has never been part of public works.

[1:47:11] It's not in any of their job descriptions.

[1:47:13] It was just something that was handed to them,

[1:47:15] for them to do.

[1:47:17] And at this point, I just think that it needs

[1:47:20] to go to a professional.

[1:47:21] Right now, Julie still takes care

[1:47:23] of all the administrative side of that

[1:47:25] and she would continue to do that.

[1:47:27] This would just be for the person to go out

[1:47:30] and look for the code violations, take pictures of it

[1:47:34] and bring it back in here, we will no longer have the door hangers, we've tried that, it did not work.

[1:47:41] I think we need to go back to sending letters out and giving them a time frame to correct the situation.

[1:47:49] But this would allow us to have this done outside of the town hall.

[1:48:03] I think we should make a motion in the first practice with Alan Ypresi.

[1:48:08] Well, I don't actually don't want to spend any money on it.

[1:48:10] But I think we should go to one place and I think the citizens should take a picture of something to tell all of it that you stood.

[1:48:15] And we send the letter and follow up with the abortion because somebody complained.

[1:48:20] So somebody complained, but I mean basically police yourself. That's what we worked at.

[1:48:24] The people would take pictures sent up to the town hall and send the letter.

[1:48:27] I'm one of the guys that thinks about how long he's told, because I would be sad and take so long.

[1:48:33] It's six months later I'll still look at the same trash on the porch.

[1:48:36] But it was explained to me by legal, that's the way it is.

[1:48:40] And if we're under orders at work and now we're going to outsource and spend more money,

[1:48:44] I have just a solution back to the old way.

[1:48:46] One quote, we just want to try to fix it.

[1:48:47] Right.

[1:48:48] I agree.

[1:48:50] I'm trying to clarify what you're saying, that we won't have anybody rocking around looking for a point where we should rent.

[1:48:58] Unless our citizens, unless we're the complainant, our citizens, and then who are you going to send to take the figures from the store?

[1:49:06] The citizens, the pictures, everybody has technology.

[1:49:09] Well, we won't have any money from town staff who are around here and some stingy complainant, I think we should.

[1:49:15] Well, not enough, but what are you doing in instances where there's neighbors that don't

[1:49:18] get along and they're trying to retaliate against each other?

[1:49:21] I also have to have somebody testify in court if they get back, which gets me a time for

[1:49:26] that.

[1:49:27] All right.

[1:49:27] Well, postpone this one.

[1:49:29] Let us take this.

[1:49:30] Well, look.

[1:49:31] You can postpone the next one.

[1:49:33] We want to.

[1:49:33] I just want to say this.

[1:49:35] The whole reason why we're going is, and we're at where we are because we try to be

[1:49:44] responses to citizen requests, people sat right in here and said you need to do

[1:49:49] something about these co-violations and so forth so on. We need better

[1:49:53] notification. Somebody came up with the idea we'd go ahead. So we made

[1:49:57] doorhand, then it didn't like the language on it. So we take the language, then it

[1:50:01] didn't like the color of it. So we take the color of it. And now it's gotten to the

[1:50:06] point of negativity in town that everybody's spoken about today. There are public

[1:50:11] work employees that come to me and said, I'm not doing this. I don't want to do this anymore

[1:50:17] because I now in the face of the town and just because I'm doing my job and come out here

[1:50:22] and I've been told to put to the door here on your door because there's a violation or

[1:50:27] you're filled over your whatever. They see me and now there are people right down the road

[1:50:31] and give me the finger to touch. I mean to put all of this to the point where they don't do it,

[1:50:36] they feel threatened trying to do their job because people are freeing an auto run

[1:50:41] and we're going to do it because we're simply doing what we ask them to do.

[1:50:46] I think where people get upset is if there's mostly what I've seen is if they have either bill,

[1:50:55] or they want to have no right to be honoured in our employees.

[1:50:59] No, I don't think they should be honoured in our employees.

[1:51:01] They don't want to quit.

[1:51:23] I mean to be honest with you, if you file some of the codes, like people who are having

[1:51:27] Siding, hanging off their ass, shutters, pumpkin, paint jobs, that can all be code enforcement. We don't enforce that.

[1:51:36] We enforce the brass, the water mills.

[1:51:43] 15, 18 years ago you had carry mouth this year, right around town.

[1:51:47] A little black Ford Ranger pickup. Yeah. It was a code enforcement town, the town dating.

[1:51:52] We did goals where he didn't read so he didn't get any clues about that.

[1:51:57] Well, there are people out there, you know, the problem is that we would, if we hire somebody

[1:52:01] from the exit, I think it should be somebody called, but the number you're looking at, so

[1:52:07] that if they say, you got an X, Y, Z wrong with your house, it says, no, come back, say,

[1:52:11] well, what training do you have, how do you know that this should be like this, and we, you

[1:52:16] know, so.

[1:52:16] So, does the original use of outsource?

[1:52:21] I don't know.

[1:52:23] I think it gets higher in your part of time.

[1:52:26] I think it might be open.

[1:52:28] It's not like a fee for however many they do.

[1:52:33] Yeah, so I know federal agencies first date in Section 8 and see.

[1:52:38] And there's some other municipalities that use the middle department in Section 8 and see.

[1:52:42] simply because they don't have staff available to do it there's other jurisdictions

[1:52:48] that hire a part-time person that does code enforcement elsewhere like say

[1:52:53] at Caroline County code enforcement officer and then you hire a part-time and

[1:52:57] they might do it out the weekend I'm always torn on the subject because I

[1:53:04] definitely think we need code enforcement or else it'll look like trash or

[1:53:08] you're out if I'm being honest. But on the other hand, I feel like it's almost

[1:53:12] not the point of an H.O.A., which a lot of us would hear because we didn't want an H.O.A.

[1:53:17] So it's finding that delicate balance between people of course respect.

[1:53:22] I think most of the violations that we have set out over grass, untied vehicles, or dismantled

[1:53:32] vehicles, a lot of traction we do. We haven't been around looking for, oh you

[1:53:37] You don't have a screen in your window, or you don't have this, or you don't have that.

[1:53:41] You need to do something because I have a suspension and good enforcement.

[1:53:45] I'm not put before he's out there. It's unsafe for them to get there right now.

[1:53:49] They don't want to get there, so we're not important right now.

[1:53:53] He doesn't have.

[1:53:55] He's on my complaint.

[1:53:56] We'll send him a notice. We're shorted out. We're not sending by everybody.

[1:53:59] We're seven minors, too. We're no longer doing the door hangers.

[1:54:02] No. When will you have a crisis or what this is?

[1:54:05] I can get you a crisis.

[1:54:07] I've actually reached out to set an NDIA and I've reached out to the first state of mind.

[1:54:11] We've tried to be responsible for the system that we wanted to.

[1:54:15] Now we bought ourselves in.

[1:54:18] But we've got to do something different because our lawyers are here.

[1:54:23] Okay, that's it.

[1:54:25] So, if you don't want to take any action on a night, we'll kick the can down road until the next meeting.

[1:54:32] I'm just saying, please give some more thought so we can put the address next week, all right?

[1:54:38] Good, thank you.

[1:54:40] All right, so now we are announcing the Council for Mark Kim.

[1:54:47] Okay, so bear

[1:54:53] with me.

[1:54:55] I am going to be delighted tonight, not just on my behalf.

[1:55:01] So, over the past week, so I provided my fellow council members and town administration

[1:55:06] with a substantial amount of information and preparation for this meeting.

[1:55:10] I did send advance intentionally to give everyone adequate time to read the material, ask

[1:55:16] questions, identify concerns, obtain legal guidance, work appropriate, and come prepared

[1:55:21] for meaningful discussion.

[1:55:23] and matters by race were not insignificant.

[1:55:26] They all included proposed,

[1:55:29] holding all ordinance intended to address potential conflicts

[1:55:32] when elected officials are appointed board members

[1:55:35] moved directly into certain compensated town positions.

[1:55:39] But proposed council information access

[1:55:41] and administration administrative cooperation policy,

[1:55:46] concerns regarding access to financial council information access,

[1:55:51] I'm sorry, I'm re-reading the same paragraph.

[1:55:54] Record an appropriate financial oversight.

[1:55:57] Requested bill.com reports which I did receive.

[1:56:01] So thank you for that.

[1:56:03] Revisioned to the agenda and meeting policy.

[1:56:06] There were the agenda was modified.

[1:56:10] I still have questions when I got here, but they were answered.

[1:56:14] And safeguards for turning the integrity of council packets

[1:56:18] It's revised documents and documents presented

[1:56:21] to for council approval or signature.

[1:56:24] These matters are all involving transparency,

[1:56:26] financial oversight, public participation,

[1:56:29] council authority, document integrity,

[1:56:32] and good government.

[1:56:34] Yet as we enter this meeting, this information,

[1:56:37] concerns that I have submitted have gone on the answer.

[1:56:41] I notified the ones that were.

[1:56:44] I want to be very clear about why that concerns me.

[1:56:48] I do not expect my fellow council members to automatically agree with me.

[1:56:52] I do not expect every proposal I introduce to pass.

[1:56:56] And I certainly recognize that reasonable people can disagree about policy, but disagreement

[1:57:01] requires discussion.

[1:57:04] If a proposed ordinance is legally problematic, identify the problem.

[1:57:08] If a proposed policy exceeds the Council's authority, explain where and why.

[1:57:14] If language needs to be revised, propose those provisions.

[1:57:18] If there are operational concerns, identify them.

[1:57:22] If there are financial records or reports that cannot be reasonably provided, explain

[1:57:27] the reason.

[1:57:28] And if someone simply disagrees with the proposal, as a matter of policy, then say so publicly

[1:57:34] and allow the Council to debate it.

[1:57:36] What I do believe serves this, what I do not believe serves this council or community

[1:57:41] is simply allowing substantive questions and proposals to sit on the answer.

[1:57:48] I was elected to participate in the governance of this town.

[1:57:51] That responsibility includes asking questions, reviewing financial information, proposing legislation

[1:57:58] and policies, examining documents before building or signing them, and raising concerns

[1:58:04] when I believe our procedures can be improved.

[1:58:07] Those responsibilities do not disappear, because the questions are difficult, because the subject matter is uncomfortable,

[1:58:14] or because another member of the governing body disagrees with me.

[1:58:18] I have also made deliberate efforts to provide, I have also made deliberate efforts to provide these materials before me,

[1:58:28] and rather than surprising anyone from the stage.

[1:58:31] that should permit better government not create greater resistance. Providing

[1:58:36] information in advance gives everyone an opportunity to research the issues and

[1:58:40] arrive prepared. So tonight I am asking that these matters receive what they

[1:58:45] deserve. Open, substantive and respectful discussion when they're

[1:58:50] married. There, yes, there, no, all for amendments as questions, request legal

[1:58:55] clarification, when genuinely necessary, explain your position to the

[1:59:00] but let's have the discussion.

[1:59:03] Residents deserve to know not only that their elected officials ultimately vote,

[1:59:09] what they vote for or against, but why?

[1:59:12] Transparency is not achieved merely because a meeting is open to the public.

[1:59:17] Meaningful transparency requires that important issues actually be discussed.

[1:59:22] Questions receive substantive answers.

[1:59:24] The meeting viewpoints are heard and elected officials are willing to explain the decisions

[1:59:30] they may.

[1:59:31] Regardless of whether my proposals ultimately succeed or fail, I will continue to ask questions.

[1:59:38] Review the records and mail them to me.

[1:59:40] Propeller's reforms where I believe they are warranted and make sure that matters affecting the

[1:59:44] residents and taxpayers of Greensboro receive the scrutiny they deserve.

[1:59:49] This is not obstruction.

[1:59:50] This is oversight, and that is part of the job I was elected to do.

[2:00:00] I'm going to read something. I'm

[2:00:06] always apprehensive to do it because of all the negativity tonight, but this is not my words. So I was asked by a member of the public to read the following written statement into the public record. I am reading the statement as submitted the allegations and statements contained in it are those of the author. And my reading it should not be construed as my independently verifying or adopting each allegation as best.

[2:00:34] March 17, 2026.

[2:00:38] Chief, I am ready to formally document

[2:00:42] trolling statements made by a town, a Greensboro town manager,

[2:00:47] Cynthia Gibbs.

[2:00:49] It's early February at a general store

[2:00:51] in East Newmarket, Maryland.

[2:00:54] What I witnessed raises serious concerns about professionalism

[2:00:58] and partiality in the integrity of administrative actions

[2:01:02] taken against officer Jeffrey Adams.

[2:01:06] During his conversation, Ms. Joseph's post negatively spoke

[2:01:10] negatively about you and officer Adams.

[2:01:14] She stated that Greensboro was her town and that she was the law

[2:01:18] and that she intended to make an example of officer Adams at any cost.

[2:01:24] She also referred to you as incompetent and claimed she would rip the town

[2:01:28] on the people who were against her.

[2:01:30] She further stated she was working with the county sheriff to accomplish these goals.

[2:01:36] Ms. Joseph also made comments indicating clear favoritism, saying she takes care of

[2:01:41] her public works people and supports her people.

[2:01:44] She went on to say she already had a plan for an officer of Adams, which she delivered

[2:01:49] in a term that suggested retaliation rather than legitimate administrative oversight.

[2:01:55] At the time, I did not immediately understand who she meant by her peeper, and the one she

[2:02:02] takes care of.

[2:02:03] But after hearing her mention the name Jeff Adams and Lennox Trams, I put the pieces together.

[2:02:10] Because of the seriousness of what she said, I contacted Officer Adams and Chief Trams

[2:02:17] to inform them of the statements I heard.

[2:02:20] What concerns me the most is that Officer Adams is currently suspended, and from what

[2:02:25] I understand this action was taken directly by Ms. Shows by passing this chance of command.

[2:02:31] Given her public comments, the suspension appears retaliatory and personally motivated, especially

[2:02:37] since it followed the town hall meeting where Officer Adams reportedly helped separate.

[2:02:42] The town manager publicly declaring ownership of the town, showing favoritism toward her

[2:02:47] people, threatening the target and officer in undermining the police to is deeply inappropriate.

[2:02:53] It damages public trust, and it raises serious questions about whether disciplinary decisions

[2:02:59] are being made fairly, lawfully, and without personal bias.

[2:03:04] I am submitting this information because I believe it brings for a police department deserves

[2:03:10] leadership support, not interference or intimidation.

[2:03:14] I trust that you will document this matter and take whatever steps you need necessary

[2:03:18] to protect the integrity of your department and the officers who serve it.

[2:03:22] Please let me know if you need a formal statement or further clarification.

[2:03:28] So again, this was provided to me.

[2:03:32] And I just want to provide some context regarding why it's being presented now.

[2:03:41] I am going to leave a comment strictly to events that I personally witnessed

[2:03:45] and I will not disclose confidential personnel deliberation

[2:03:49] or speculate about a conversation I did not hear.

[2:03:54] While March 19, 2006 during an open meeting,

[2:03:58] then Chief Lennox Trombs requested a close session

[2:04:01] with Council, which can be heard at approximately 34 minutes

[2:04:05] into the public meeting.

[2:04:08] While Council was subsequently in close session,

[2:04:11] Chief Trombs requested the opportunity

[2:04:13] to present a complaint that he had received to the Council.

[2:04:17] Mayor Spencer asked Chief Trombs whom the complaint concerned.

[2:04:22] Chief Trombs responded that it concerns town manager Cindy Eust.

[2:04:26] Sorry.

[2:04:27] Are you...

[2:04:29] Is this especially all of what occurred in a closed session?

[2:04:33] No.

[2:04:33] You're just closing.

[2:04:36] Mayor Spencer then dispels the chant command as it relates to personnel matters.

[2:04:41] Chief Trombs and Mayor Spencer then left the room together.

[2:04:44] I was not present for their private conversation.

[2:04:46] I did not hear what was discussed between them and I will not speculate about it.

[2:04:51] When they returned, Mayor Spencer stated that he would handle the matter and that it did not warrant council's attention.

[2:04:57] The complaint was not presented to council at that time. Those are the events I personally witness.

[2:05:03] I am providing this history because I believe it is relevant to understanding how a complaint that Chief Trump sought to bring before the governing body was handled and why that complaint is now being presented.

[2:05:16] I didn't know anything.

[2:05:19] I didn't know anything.

[2:05:19] None of us did.

[2:05:22] We were all here.

[2:05:24] I mean, we were here, but I don't know.

[2:05:27] None of us knew.

[2:05:28] That's why I didn't know anything.

[2:05:28] But this followed, if we always did,

[2:05:30] you followed the chain of command.

[2:05:32] And the chain of command.

[2:05:33] Yes.

[2:05:34] That's right.

[2:05:36] You can feel it.

[2:05:38] I don't know what you're going to say to me.

[2:05:40] But what I will tell you is that,

[2:05:43] when I went into the other room,

[2:05:44] the chain comes.

[2:05:46] He presented a letter.

[2:05:48] How would you just say that all that stuff you do fit is non-identifiable?

[2:05:51] There was some allegations similar to that, but you did not read the exact same letter that I saw.

[2:05:57] The letter that he presented to me was unsigned.

[2:05:59] He said he didn't know who the person was.

[2:06:02] That's what you mean.

[2:06:03] I can't act on this unless you give me a sign complaint.

[2:06:07] I can't act on something if I don't know what I'm going to go talk to.

[2:06:10] The greatest question is conducted by investigation.

[2:06:13] He never wanted that.

[2:06:16] But I did speak to her about it the next day, I'm her fault, and that's what I told you.

[2:06:21] You're not supposed to bring this to the council, she answers to me.

[2:06:25] So if you got a complaint, give it to me, and I'll hold it in to you.

[2:06:28] That's what I did, I had the conversation.

[2:06:30] So I heard the next day, she assured me, this will never happen.

[2:06:34] You know, guilty, I don't have a complaint, but you never heard no more about it.

[2:06:38] So I never brought it up to you guys, but why would I?

[2:06:41] I have an unsubstanked letter that the person wouldn't sign her name for apparently because it never came back to me.

[2:06:48] She probably never read another word about it. So there you go. Now you know the rest of it.

[2:06:54] Well, it's going to be late because she left a statement.

[2:06:56] No, we don't.

[2:06:57] It wasn't unsubstanked. It was never given name to her. It never came back to me.

[2:07:06] Yeah, although I did check to her just to make sure I do what I'm supposed to do, are you done?

[2:07:17] I'm done.

[2:07:17] All right.

[2:07:18] My name is

[2:07:22] Eric.

[2:07:23] This is Clark.

[2:07:24] It was August 29th.

[2:07:30] Just followed by some of the action.

[2:07:33] But there is two sides to every story.

[2:07:35] So for anybody who makes judgment calls.

[2:07:38] And you didn't have both sides of the story.

[2:07:40] That's all I got.

[2:07:41] Thank you for coming, thank you for coming, please keep coming, keep wishing you're a

[2:07:52] good evening.

[2:07:53] Thank you.

[2:07:53] So the one thing that I have for you, the council is that I was sent an email by Mr.

[2:08:03] Mason requesting to be placed on a future agenda and it said that there seemed to be some

[2:08:12] miscommunication and some things cleared up. That's what he would put on the agenda. I had no idea

[2:08:19] what it was I'm going to talk about. So I consulted with our attorney on a new policy about what

[2:08:26] do she gave me the response that I sent him telling him that under a new policy I had to bring it to

[2:08:33] the council to see if you wanted to put it on the agenda. That's what I'm doing now. Now we have since

[2:08:39] not aware of that policy thought I don't know if it's even possible or not but I wanted it on a record that I did receive his

[2:08:46] and I did respond to him exactly what the lawyer told her so she typed it out so

[2:08:52] yeah I mean but basically the request was to be placed on the agenda the policy allows a request to be placed on the agenda

[2:08:58] because that mandate that someone will be placed on the agenda and so we decided it would be a council discussion

[2:09:04] had you all been setting the agenda

[2:09:06] to discuss whether it should be an agenda item.

[2:09:09] On your next meeting.

[2:09:10] And then I was not, I never got his original email

[2:09:14] because he missed out my name.

[2:09:17] So, but I did get a separate email that apparently he had

[2:09:22] asked to give a presentation after getting it anywhere

[2:09:25] with the agenda.

[2:09:27] And the policy is different for presentation.

[2:09:30] Yeah, so the presentation had said someone made her

[2:09:33] request to make a presentation, it didn't say that you're automatically allowed to be put

[2:09:39] on the agenda, and so rather than giving one person the authority to place something

[2:09:43] on the agenda, it was brought up as a discussion item.

[2:09:46] So generally, the way that I'm used to business being conducted is that during your mayor and

[2:09:54] council comments, like a new policy, when you want something brought up in a later meeting

[2:09:58] so that there is at least support for that, like I'll take a cool look at your list.

[2:10:03] During your council comment, you would say, I noticed this might be an issue.

[2:10:08] I think it's a good idea to have a pulling off period.

[2:10:10] I'm willing to drop something. What do you all think?

[2:10:13] If enough of them say, yeah, I think that's a good idea.

[2:10:16] Then you move forward and it's on the later agenda.

[2:10:18] So that you don't waste time drafting it.

[2:10:20] They don't waste time reviewing it. I don't waste time.

[2:10:22] I won't do waste time, but I don't spend time looking at it.

[2:10:25] It's not going to be something to fruition.

[2:10:27] Same thing with presentations, you all should agree that it's relevant to a gun

[2:10:30] item and we're considering to be placed on that.

[2:10:33] What is the agenda?

[2:10:35] That's what I think there was a missbook.

[2:10:37] What are you wanting to speak about?

[2:10:39] Not just the generalization.

[2:10:41] Yeah, I mean, so that becomes difficult because if you're going to allow people to request

[2:10:45] to be placed on a gun, you can't regulate their content.

[2:10:51] You can't say, yes, you can be on the agenda because your content is positive towards

[2:10:55] employees, but no, you can't. You can ask for a general topic, so you're aware so you

[2:11:03] can make sure that it is relevant to town business. You don't want someone to ask

[2:11:06] to be placed on the agenda to discuss the law law in general's heard of what makes

[2:11:11] that. And to be aware of the time, you only have so much time to conduct business.

[2:11:17] So I think wearing becomes a very hot topic, especially now that we're down to one meeting.

[2:11:22] Yeah, so if somebody doesn't get the opportunity, they have to wait another whole month to say what they had to say.

[2:11:30] And I just want to throw this out there.

[2:11:31] I think I was probably the hold-off with having two meetings a month because of my client obligations.

[2:11:37] But I have spoke to my client and they have agreed to move their council meetings to accommodate if we wanted to go back to two meetings.

[2:11:49] I mean, another thing you could do, it's hard to put agenda items on the agenda that

[2:11:56] hadn't been discussed before, because you all can't discuss outside of the meeting.

[2:12:00] You do have some ability under the administrative abilities, which is outside the open meetings

[2:12:07] act to talk about agenda items.

[2:12:08] You can't get into the content of them, maybe that's an avenue where everyone comes to Cindy

[2:12:14] and says, I would like this on the agenda,

[2:12:16] and she could at least ask it at this agenda.

[2:12:19] Well, it's very, very nailed out of consensus,

[2:12:22] but I don't remember any of them.

[2:12:23] At least I wasn't asked.

[2:12:25] I know we can't call the email.

[2:12:26] Well, was anybody else asked if they wanted

[2:12:28] to order an agenda?

[2:12:30] Yeah, I don't know.

[2:12:31] I'm not sure about that.

[2:12:32] I don't know.

[2:12:33] I don't reply all of them.

[2:12:35] Well, that's what I just said.

[2:12:36] We're not announcing.

[2:12:37] But that's why I'm asking mail.

[2:12:39] Did anybody participate in a consensus

[2:12:44] I don't know, but that's where he would have, if he brought it up during Councilor Marks,

[2:12:49] then he would get that consensus to then put it on the event, I see your point, that you're

[2:12:54] then worried that it pushes it out a whole other mind, rather than another mind.

[2:12:59] I just, it makes it really difficult to have another way.

[2:13:03] I mean, you feel like the hurt, yeah, giving the opportunity to be heard, yeah,

[2:13:07] You know, tonight was also a chain crazy, um, but very very private, yeah.

[2:13:13] I think, I think my time here is your cue.

[2:13:16] I think the mission for this public has the opportunity to be heard.

[2:13:20] That's why we have the public comment for that sport.

[2:13:23] I think that we look forward to the new policy.

[2:13:26] We need to keep them on and the agenda has to be managed.

[2:13:29] Because you can't have ten people wanting to get on to your agenda for ten minutes.

[2:13:34] I just talked to her, you know, what?

[2:13:37] I don't know if you know that this account you can make.

[2:13:39] I don't know if that, but also if you had four ordinances

[2:13:42] from each council member being placed on it.

[2:13:45] You know, if I want to change the grass to two inches

[2:13:47] and Bob you might want to regulate windows.

[2:13:52] So this is just something for you to consider,

[2:13:54] because I can do some kind of, just my opinion,

[2:13:57] and I don't need to go into any way.

[2:13:59] But I think the way it used to be is that you want to get

[2:14:06] You're talking about people going on the agenda and there are some ordinances and legislation going on the agenda.

[2:14:15] I thought we were talking about people going on the agenda.

[2:14:17] No, I think we're talking now about legislation.

[2:14:20] So I think we need it. I would rather not limit people and limit how many legislative decisions we make in one session.

[2:14:31] Because from being honest, if you're thoroughly reading these things, it's very time consuming.

[2:14:36] And I pointed out before that the majority of us, or the majority of us, still work.

[2:14:42] So it takes some stints of amount of time to re-

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