[3:52] I'd like to welcome everyone to the August 13th, 2026 meeting in the Greenville City Council. I'm Mayor P.J.

[3:58] Colleague, a presided number tonight's meeting. First, I'd like to call on Mayor Potent Forman for the

[4:02] invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance.

[4:04] Thank you, Mayor. I was reminded this week of my why and oftentimes that we don't remember what the reason

[4:17] is that we do this work. And so I was led to share with us tonight first

[4:23] Corinthians 13 and it goes as if I speak in tongues of men or of angels but do

[4:31] not have love.

[4:35] I'm only over sounding gong or simple clanking. If I have the

[4:48] faith and can move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.

[4:54] If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship.

[5:00] That I may boast only, but do not have love. I've gained nothing.

[5:06] Love is patient, love is kind, love does not envy. It does not boast, it does not proud.

[5:15] It does not dishonor others. It is not self-seeking. It is not easily angered.

[5:22] It keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices in truth.

[5:30] It always protects, always trust, always hopes, and it always perseveres.

[5:38] And my favorite part of this is verse 8 that says, love never fails.

[5:46] Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

[5:54] Aye, it's states of America.

[5:56] And it's either a public or which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice

[6:03] for all.

[6:09] Madam Clerk, would you please call the roll?

[6:10] Yes, sir, Mayor Connelly.

[6:13] Mayor for Temphorman.

[6:14] Here.

[6:14] Councilmember Jones.

[6:15] Here.

[6:16] Councilmember Hardy.

[6:18] Councilmember Scully is let us know he will not be attending this evening.

[6:20] Councilmember Robinson.

[6:22] Here.

[6:22] Councilmember Willis.

[6:23] All right.

[6:23] Mayor Connelly of a corner.

[6:24] Thank you very much.

[6:25] We'll now move on to approval of tonight's agenda.

[6:26] Mr. Mayor, any recommend changes?

[6:28] I have no changes there.

[6:29] All right.

[6:29] Done.

[6:29] Motion to approve.

[6:30] Motion to approve.

[6:31] Second.

[6:31] All right.

[6:32] Motion to make.

[6:32] But Councilmember Jones.

[6:33] And by Councilmember Robinson.

[6:34] All those favors say aye.

[6:35] Aye.

[6:35] I suppose say nay.

[6:36] Motion passes five zero.

[6:37] and move on to special recognitions.

[6:49] Like to ask Glenn Wooten to come forward?

[6:51] I'm Pamela.

[7:05] So it is my honor to recognize Glenn Wooten for his retirement from the City of Greenville.

[7:14] And I'd just like to take a few minutes to read some comments that came directly from some

[7:20] of your co-workers, just about you.

[7:24] All right, Glenn.

[7:25] You began your work with the city right out of high school and started when the public

[7:32] works department spent several years there and then transitioned over to the recreation

[7:37] and parks department. Over the course of your career, Glenn, you're a valuable member of the

[7:43] team and built a reputation for doing things the right way. Now they say, if you know Glenn,

[7:51] You know that his truck and his tools were trio like Fort Knox, and everything was always locked up,

[7:59] organized, and exactly where it belonged.

[8:04] Glenn is an incredibly skilled welder, and craftsman, and someone who takes pride in his work.

[8:11] As a building facility technician, and the department's chief playwright ground inspector,

[8:16] He made sure the facilities were safe, clean, and ready for the use by the public.

[8:22] When also spent his time mentoring younger employees throughout his career, passing on

[8:28] his eye for detail and workplace knowledge, the attention to detail and willingness to

[8:34] teach others are some of Glenn's greatest qualities as an employee, and Glenn, we were fortunate

[8:41] enough to spend some time together a couple of weeks ago, and I told you at that point in

[8:47] time that I felt that there was no greater gift in your life than to serve others, and

[8:55] clearly that number of years you have gone above and beyond a sort of this community and

[9:00] touched the lives of people that you'll never know, but now after reading all the great things

[9:06] that your department had to say about you, I'd say also with that there's no greater

[9:10] honor than the half individuals that you have worked around for years talk so great about

[9:17] what type of person you are not just worker but have what kind of person you are.

[9:21] So on behalf of the City Council and the City Management Office and Recreation Parks, congratulations

[9:26] and God bless you.

[9:27] Thank you for everything you've done for the City Greenville.

[9:40] I'm going to try to get this right without dropping in break in it because it's got the

[9:43] mayor and my name and my name on it says, in recognition of 29 years and 8 months of

[9:50] outstanding service. We extend our sincere appreciation to Ronald

[9:55] Glenn Wooten. Congratulations.

[10:10] All right. Now, if I could ask the members of the impact generates influence basketball team, but the 12

[10:17] you and the high school team to come forward, any members that we may have.

[10:54] I said earlier, I was, if I just had a little bit more time, I would have set that basketball

[10:58] goal up on the first floor, so we could have a game before the meeting started. It is also, my honor to

[11:06] recognize the IGI. That's what I'll say. The impact generates influence basketball team, both the 12-year team and the high school team.

[11:16] They are a local AU program with both the 12-year team again and a high school team.

[11:21] All year long teams go head to head with tough competition and always bringing their best.

[11:27] They have some awesome wins lately, and let me tell you about those.

[11:31] The 12-U team took home the 2025 National Championship in the high school team grabbed

[11:38] second place at Nationals this year, but Ajay is about more than just basketball.

[11:45] They really focus on teaching their players to work hard, make good choices, and stay true

[11:51] to themselves.

[11:51] The lessons learned on the court help shape what these athletes are and prepare them for whatever comes next in life.

[12:00] And now what I'd like to do is I might not be having everyone here but I would like to recognize those with the certificates.

[12:12] So I'm going to start with the 12-ute team and Council Member Tanya Foreman would like to present you with a certificate.

[12:22] Let me see if I can get this going right here.

[12:25] So we have Cruz, Errington,

[12:31] Dominney Byrom,

[12:39] Amari Smith,

[12:43] JJ Jones,

[12:49] Camari Farmer,

[12:54] Karis Smith,

[12:57] Jordan Smith, Zahann Cherry,

[13:02] Caden Tafft, Troy Harris, and Jeremiah Weems.

[13:14] What a great honor, guys.

[13:15] Let's give them a comment.

[13:15] All

[13:25] right now we have the high school kids tried

[13:37] double-teamness, we have Brendan Porter,

[13:48] Christian

[13:49] Isler,

[13:56] Jackson Foster,

[14:03] Jalen Rasko,

[14:07] Keyon Biel,

[14:11] Keishon Farmer,

[14:15] Landon Ashley,

[14:22] Loyalty

[14:23] four,

[14:26] and RKBU,

[14:32] Quay Bionum,

[14:36] Todd Daniels,

[14:42] and where's Coach Air?

[14:43] We're the Antoine Air.

[14:45] Come on up, dude.

[14:50] And Coach Smith, Tony.

[15:14] So now I'll turn it over to council members.

[15:20] I just want to make sure that these teams are acknowledged for their hard work, their commitment and excellence, as well as the coaches and the families that have supported them to accomplish these goals.

[15:33] These are great accomplishments that they work very hard for. I'm proud of you guys.

[15:40] Also, I want to echo that too. Congratulations, guys. It's awesome to be able to see you guys

[15:43] competing at such a high level, represent our community, going out there and showing good

[15:48] sportsmanship. Thank you to the coaches. The coaches are, they pour a lot of their time and effort

[15:54] into making sure that they teach you the game, but they're also teaching you other things, too,

[15:58] that you're going to take the rest of your life. So thank you for doing that and stepping up.

[16:02] It's not easy. It's a huge time commitment. I know that it's tough sometimes. You have to take off work,

[16:07] But it's good, and I think these guys will appreciate everything that you've done over the season and they're going to continue to look back at you as a good role model for making them better in life as they get older.

[16:18] So thank you.

[17:03] Alright, now I did invite the 252 ladies warms up here, come on ladies, alright,

[17:40] these young ladies are

[17:41] form in the stage.

[17:55] All right, again, it is my honor to recognize the 252 lady's form, is a local, a local

[18:04] AU team that has achieved remarkable success in their inaugural year of competition.

[18:12] The team is made up of players from Pitt County, many of whom have previously played

[18:16] together in all-star leagues and tournaments.

[18:18] With a regular season record of 16 and 5, they earned the opportunity to compete at

[18:24] nationals in Virginia Beach.

[18:27] They came second to a more seasonal and experienced team, just shot of the championship

[18:32] by one point, which is basically winning.

[18:36] Their outstanding performance is a tournament to their strong work ethic, determination,

[18:41] and discipline.

[18:43] Now I would also like to recognize each of you young ladies and

[18:46] present you with a certificate.

[18:49] We have a scholar Zachary,

[18:54] London Pears,

[19:04] Eva Kate Stilton,

[19:09] Chelsea Wilkes,

[19:12] Brielle Little,

[19:18] Zoe Watts,

[19:25] Joey Morgan,

[19:33] Shinai Heath,

[19:39] and I love this name.

[19:41] Carmen E. Corden,

[19:48] I have to get my spell checker.

[19:51] Get all my spell checker.

[19:52] Oh, you're a dodgy, uh, leaving.

[20:35] So I want to reiterate the congratulations that I have for these young ladies. I have seen them play, and these are some real ballers you all.

[20:50] Also, I want to elevate Mia Perry because I understand that she was the highest score, as well as, um, had the most rebounds, is that correct?

[21:02] Uh-huh.

[21:03] She's acting shy.

[21:04] Okay.

[21:05] Okay.

[21:06] So I want to elevate her for that and, um, and congratulate the coaches also.

[21:10] Thank you guys for everything you do in our community.

[21:18] Congratulations, ladies again.

[21:20] I'm not going to say that I who it was, but I talked to one of the ladies up here and I asked

[21:25] if they could take the guys and they gave me a yes, so hey, I'm just saying, so if something

[21:32] takes place in the parking lot down there, I get it, okay.

[21:36] Hank, congratulations, ladies.

[21:37] We're really proud of you.

[21:38] I think it's awesome.

[21:39] The accomplishment that you were able to accomplish with a cabinet second place.

[21:44] That's awesome.

[21:45] Hey, the one thing I always tell my girls, I'm a coach, I coach softball.

[21:48] One thing I always tell them is, is when you lose, make sure you take that the next game

[21:53] that you play and make you work even harder so that next time you're the one celebrating

[21:58] you're not the one with your heads down crying and upset that you didn't win, make sure that

[22:01] you always work as hard as you possibly can because it will translate from what you do on the

[22:06] basketball court into life and make sure that you work as hard as you possibly can because anything

[22:10] that you want to do in life you're going to accomplish and never forget that. Congratulations.

[22:48] I'm going to give it to you.

[22:50] I'm going to give it to you.

[22:51] I'm going to give it to you.

[22:52] I'm going to give it to you.

[22:54] All right.

[22:55] It's my turn.

[22:56] We'll be the last time.

[22:57] I hear the lady's warm time.

[22:59] They got a team.

[23:00] I hope there's some ballers.

[23:01] That's really good.

[23:02] They really did.

[23:03] I got the inside track.

[23:05] He would be the one who's the first to hear.

[23:07] I'm probably the one who's the first to hear.

[23:10] He's the first to hear.

[23:11] He can hear the bass, so we have one.

[23:12] I love to see.

[23:13] love to see. And they're at various schools around the city, so can you play basketball?

[23:20] I was a pull-in car. Are you? Are you a good shooter?

[23:24] I want to. Yeah. I want to imagine. Yeah.

[23:27] Do you break some ankles? I was with Dennis Rodman every day.

[23:31] I'm pretty good for us. I'm going to have to look up some of that footage.

[23:40] All right, all right, we'll move on to the public

[23:45] computer.

[23:45] The public count period is a period reserved for

[23:46] comms by the public items that were scheduled to be

[23:48] submitted to the public hearing conducted this evening or

[23:49] another evening or the same week shall not be discussed.

[23:52] A total of 30 minutes is allocated with each individual being

[23:54] allowed no more than three minutes.

[23:55] Individuals who register will speak, register with a city clerk will

[23:59] speak in the order register to tell you a lot of 30 minutes.

[24:01] Expires.

[24:02] If time remains after all persons have a sort of spoken,

[24:04] individuals who are not registered will have an opportunity to

[24:05] We can tell you a lot of 30 minutes expires, Madam Clerk, our first speaker.

[24:09] Yes, our first speaker is Ms. Gwen Green, we have 30 minutes to address the Mayor and

[24:13] Council at that podium right there.

[24:29] Mayor Connelly, Mayor Pro Tim Forman, City Council members, City staff and members of the community.

[24:37] Good evening.

[24:38] Good evening.

[24:39] I'm Gwen Green, I'm a Green Go resident and I think of myself as being invested and

[24:46] involved community member.

[24:49] I serve in organizations like Delta Sigma Theta Swording, I serve on many communities.

[24:55] The National Council of Negro Women, where I serve on the Budget and Finance Committee.

[25:00] I'm a regular volunteer at my church, coining the Eucharist and Center. I also volunteered with the

[25:06] West Greenville Health Council where I co-wrote the proposal that brought face masks, hand sanitizer,

[25:12] and other supplies to nonprofits, community organizations, and churches, along with now volunteer

[25:18] with Pastor Rodney Coz of the Church's Outreach Network to establish children's book clubs and

[25:22] after school programs. We're hoping to disrupt the school to prison pipeline.

[25:28] And before I move here some 12 years ago, I volunteered with a number of other volunteer organizations

[25:34] including a community development board and a redevelopment board and total transparency.

[25:44] I also serve as a commissioner on the housing authority of Greenville and in fact serve as this chair.

[25:51] Tonight, however, in the time I have left, I'd like to lay the fears of some of the city

[25:58] counselors.

[26:04] The Housing Authority staff truly are working every day to provide safe, decent housing for

[26:12] our residents.

[26:15] I will concede to you that they're working under some very difficult circumstances.

[26:23] Most of our facilities are some 40, 50 years old. It gets real hard to fix those up.

[26:30] And clean them up to the standard that we would all like to live in.

[26:38] However,

[26:41] I'd like to address a couple of other issues that were raised in your work session.

[26:45] One of which was the Inspire Report.

[26:50] As it was presented, it truly was pretty alarming.

[26:55] However, I want you to know the housing authority staff was responsive

[27:00] to all the issues that were outlined in the Inspire Reports.

[27:07] Life threatening issues as defined by HUD include

[27:10] smoke detectors, GFCI replacements, rust on electrical panels, all of which have to be repaired or replaced within 24 hours.

[27:23] While non-threatening issues must be corrected within 30 days.

[27:27] That's time.

[27:29] You keep going.

[27:30] So the reports for 2024 were corrected within 24 hours for things like smoke detectors and GFCI units,

[27:37] including a water heater flute that had a downward slope.

[27:42] They were corrected.

[27:44] I've got the details here for you.

[27:46] And a boxback there in case someone here would like

[27:49] to see the paperwork itself.

[27:54] Ask to the finances.

[27:56] Financial reports are provided, presented,

[27:59] and accepted at every meeting.

[28:02] Reports on red collection and defaults are discussed

[28:05] because that too is a key responsibility

[28:08] the housing authority to collect the rents, and by federal mandate and outside audit is conducted

[28:16] annually by a reputable financial organization that is actually switched out every three years

[28:22] to ensure that we are going to get fair representation of the work that we're doing.

[28:29] The latest audit was conducted by Rector, Lofton and Reeder for the fiscal year 2025,

[28:35] And I'll read very quickly, their opinion.

[28:39] In our opinion, the accompanying financial statements referred to a

[28:42] bug present fairly in all materials respects the respective financial

[28:46] position of the business type activities of the housing authority, the city

[28:49] of Greenville, as of September 30, 2025, and the respective changes in financial

[28:54] position and where applicable, cash flows there off of the year then ended in

[28:58] accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of

[29:04] As to a work order process, none of us are satisfied with the existing process.

[29:10] The Board receives a work order report every month.

[29:14] It gets discussed if not every meeting, then every other meeting.

[29:17] The need for a better system is without question, need it.

[29:22] However, the housing authority is going through a total software transition.

[29:28] The transition is being phased in so that we want to make sure that things like grant funding

[29:36] is being accounted for properly, that our accounts receivables and account payables that

[29:43] it's working.

[29:45] And so if you will, the deadline for all of this phasing in will be completed by December

[29:52] of 2026, but you got to give us time.

[29:55] We're not satisfied with the process as it currently is, we want tenants, we want...

[30:00] Our residents, to be able to know that their work order has been accepted. Finally, as I know

[30:06] I'm running out of time, I've reached out to our Mayor Pro Tim, at our last board meeting. I stated

[30:15] that we needed to get into a better relationship with the city, that it would not be possible

[30:19] to easily build brand new structures brand new homes without support from the city. Members of

[30:25] City Council, I stand here this evening telling you, I suffer with housing authority envy.

[30:33] I envy the Durham housing authority, because right now they've got three developments

[30:39] in process, various stages of development, one of which includes the hay-tie village, which

[30:45] some of you may remember and recall that's Durham's market,

[30:54] Black Wall Street, I'm sorry.

[30:57] There are many phrases that come to mind to describe the current situation.

[31:02] I think a failure to communicate at this point in time probably says it best.

[31:09] And so it is that I ask that a meeting be held with the housing authority to better

[31:13] understand not only what is being done, but what has been accomplished and what we'd

[31:18] like to see going forward.

[31:21] Though there have been some quarterly managers meeting with city staff clearly there needs

[31:24] to be more.

[31:25] So that respectful and respected lines of communication can be established.

[31:30] I thank you all for listening.

[31:32] Thank you.

[31:33] Thank you, Ms. Green.

[31:38] Madam Clerk, our next speaker.

[31:40] We do not have any additional registered speakers.

[31:42] Anyone else that like to speak to our public commentator?

[31:44] Please come forward.

[31:44] State your name for the record.

[31:45] You have three minutes.

[31:58] All right. So you know we'll close public commentary.

[32:00] We'll move on to our appointments.

[32:04] Madam Clerk?

[32:06] Yes, our first appointment that we have is to the

[32:08] best Greenville board that's a nomination made by you, Mayor Connelly.

[32:15] I would like to re-appoint Mr. Robert Cherry.

[32:19] You'll need some help.

[32:20] I need a motion.

[32:21] Motion to a point, Robert Cherry.

[32:23] All right.

[32:23] Mr. B. May.

[32:24] Councilmember Robinson.

[32:25] Second by Councillor Jones.

[32:27] All those have ever said aye.

[32:28] All right.

[32:28] Let's pose aye.

[32:29] Motion passes five zero.

[32:30] Congratulations, Mr. Cherry.

[32:32] Okay.

[32:36] And that concludes appointments from best Greenville.

[32:39] Can

[32:42] you roll right at a number of all?

[32:45] Board's and Commission's Board of Adjustment, Council number Jones.

[32:49] I would like to nominate the G. and Lewis.

[32:57] All right, is there a second?

[32:59] All right, I'm interested in the May of my Council member Jones.

[33:01] Same by Council member Hardy, all those of you who say aye.

[33:03] Aye.

[33:03] Let's pose say nay.

[33:04] Motion passes five zero.

[33:06] Gradulations in the G. Jones.

[33:09] Look, Lewis.

[33:12] Yeah.

[33:13] Let's start today.

[33:14] Next, we have the Environmental Advisory Commission that appointment is assigned to Council Member

[33:21] Scully, so we will check with him next month.

[33:24] Next, we have the Historic Preservation Commission, Council Member Hardy.

[33:30] We do have the Housing Authority appointment, however that is for the resident commission

[33:35] or seat and we are still waiting on an nomination from the resident's council, so I don't

[33:39] I have one to give to you tonight.

[33:41] Multimodal Transportation Commission,

[33:43] Council Member Jones.

[33:45] I'll let you continue that one.

[33:49] Also, Multimodal Transportation Commission,

[33:51] Mayor for Time Forman.

[33:52] I would like to nominate Johnathan Mati.

[33:55] Second.

[33:56] All right.

[33:57] Motion's been made by Mayor Proton and Forman,

[34:00] second by Council Member Robison,

[34:01] all those of ever say hi.

[34:02] All right.

[34:03] Let's pose, say nay.

[34:04] Motion passes by zero.

[34:06] Congratulations, Mr. Mati.

[34:07] OK.

[34:09] Next, well no, it's so multi-model transportation commission, Councillor Hardy.

[34:15] Okay.

[34:16] Next we have the Pick Rable Convention and Visitors Authority, Councillor Robinson.

[34:21] Attend a big ritual within before I make that decision.

[34:24] And she just got in, so I'm going to do that so I now it's happy to take it.

[34:27] Okay.

[34:28] Yes, sir.

[34:29] Okay.

[34:29] Next we have the Planning and Zoning Commission, Mayor for Temforman.

[34:33] I'll continue that one.

[34:34] Okay,

[34:37] police community relations committee, Councillor Robinson.

[34:41] I'm thinking of that, please.

[34:42] Okay, yes, sir.

[34:43] Recreation and parks also, Councillor Robinson.

[34:46] I would nominate Ryan Fields.

[34:50] All right, is there a second?

[34:52] I think I heard those.

[34:53] I think I heard a split second there.

[34:56] Much has been made by Councillor Robinson,

[34:58] saying by Councillor Jones, all those if they were saying.

[35:00] Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. Posts, aye, aye. Motion passes five, zero. Graduation, Mr. Fields. All right, Mayor Conley, that concludes appointment.

[35:06] Thank you very much. We will now move onto new business, which are the public hearings. This is the policy of the public hearings adopt by the city council,

[35:13] petitioner, or representative of the petitioner and a leader of those in opposition will each have ten minutes.

[35:16] Pursus following them will have up to three minutes each with a total for each side and then more than thirty minutes.

[35:20] Additionally, I want to remind those in attendance extend the courtesy to persons speaking during the public hearing and the city council are in discussions.

[35:26] Comments made by members of the public are to occur only during the public hearing as allowed by the mayor and the courts with adopt policy of the city council.

[35:32] There should be no interruptions of speakers or council members including expressions of support or disagreements of earlier by applause.

[35:37] This is distracting and makes discussion difficult. We ask for your cooperation. Thank you.

[35:42] Mr. Manager, our first public hearing.

[35:44] Thank you, Mayor.

[35:44] Item number six, ordinance to annex cobblestone south involving 2.2168 acres.

[35:50] Look at East Ovalon Road and at the current terminus of Quail Drop, now call forward, our

[35:56] city planner, D.I. Hodge, for the presentation.

[36:04] Good evening Mayor and council.

[36:06] Good evening.

[36:08] Good evening.

[36:08] I like it.

[36:10] I like it.

[36:12] This property is located in the southwestern quadrant of the city.

[36:17] More specifically, this property is located East Ovalon Road, not the current terminus

[36:22] well drive. The current city limits are showing green. The subject property is shown in red.

[36:30] This property is located in the Greens Mill Run watershed. This property is located in the primary

[36:37] service area on the tiered growth map and will be located in city council building district number two.

[36:44] This property is anticipated to yield 10 single family lots with an estimated tax value of 3.25

[36:52] million dollars. And that's this property is located in the ETJ. It is important to note

[36:57] that under Section 6 of GUC's charter, the development can still be provided sanitary

[37:02] sewer if the annexation is denied and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Any questions?

[37:10] Can you go back to the first,

[37:20] I'm sorry, the first map, the first map,

[37:28] and that's the

[37:40] any questions?

[37:46] Thank you very much. All right, the moment here is now open, those speak

[37:50] on behalf of the applicant may come forward, please state your name for the record. First

[37:53] person has 10 minutes, all others have three minutes.

[38:06] Seeing none, those in opposition to the

[38:07] applicant may come forward, please state your name for the record. The first person has 10 minutes,

[38:10] all others have three minutes.

[38:25] Seeing none, the moment here is now closed up and for board

[38:27] discussion or motion? I should do a brief second. All right, no should have been made by Council

[38:32] and we'll take my council member Robinson in the discussion.

[38:36] All those in favor say aye.

[38:38] This vote is aye.

[38:39] Motion passes five.

[38:41] Number seven.

[38:41] All right.

[38:42] Thank you, Mayor.

[38:42] Item number seven.

[38:43] Ordnest and excellent.

[38:44] Deau east section five.

[38:45] Phase two involving 10.7 on acres.

[38:48] Locate at the current terminal of Remington Drive.

[38:51] In stone, hinge, drive.

[38:52] Again, call for it.

[38:53] Our city planter beyond hodge for the presentation.

[39:03] So this property is located in the south eastern quadrant of the city.

[39:07] More specifically, this property is located at the current terminal of Remington Drive and Stone

[39:13] Hens Drive. The current city limits are shown in green. The subject property is shown in red.

[39:20] This property is located in the Fort Swamp Watershed. This property is located in the primary

[39:26] service area on the tiered growth map and will be located in city council building district number four.

[39:32] This property is anticipated to yield 21 single-family lots within estimated tax value of $14.7 million.

[39:42] And as this property is located in the ETA, it is important to note that under Section 6 of GEC's Charter,

[39:49] the development can still be provided sanitary sewer if the annexation is denied.

[39:54] And I'd be happy to answer any questions.

[39:57] Any questions for us or not?

[39:59] Just one.

[40:00] You anticipate that when they're built out, that they will connect the Stone Tange so they connect it out to Ireland.

[40:05] Exactly.

[40:05] Thank you.

[40:06] Thank you very much.

[40:15] Public hearing is now open. Those that speak on behalf of the applicant may come forward.

[40:18] Please state your name for the record. The person has 10 minutes. All others have three minutes.

[40:31] Good evening.

[40:32] I'm Dwight. We're in Elxon with Rivers and Associates. We're the agent for the owner.

[40:36] And be glad to answer any questions you may.

[40:40] That's all.

[40:41] All right, any questions?

[40:49] I don't see.

[40:49] Thank you very much.

[40:50] Thank you.

[40:50] That was a great presentation.

[40:53] That was my favorite.

[40:54] All right.

[40:55] Anyone else to hear to speak on behalf of the applicant

[40:57] may come forward, please state your name for the record.

[40:59] You have three minutes.

[41:12] See none?

[41:13] Those are not positioned to the applicant

[41:14] may come forward, please state your name for the record.

[41:15] The first person has ten minutes.

[41:16] All others have three minutes.

[41:28] See none?

[41:28] Public hearing staff closed up before board discussion or motion?

[41:32] Motion to approve.

[41:32] Second.

[41:33] I'm Washington, B.A. by Council Member Hardy,

[41:35] saying by Council Member Roberts any other discussion.

[41:38] All those in favor say aye.

[41:40] Those opposed say aye.

[41:41] Motion passes five zero.

[41:43] All right, let's move on to item eight.

[41:45] Thank you, Mayor.

[41:46] Item number eight.

[41:46] Ordinance requested by P.O.

[41:48] B.O. L.C.

[41:49] to reason a total of 56.369 for acres from

[41:53] R.A.20 residential air culture to industry.

[41:57] To industry for track 1, 47.5, 795 acres.

[42:00] to O-Dash C-A office conservation overlay for track 2, 8.6062 acres and to O-O-Pas for track 3-0.1837 acres for the property located at the north east corner of the intersection of old creek road and tram road.

[42:20] cost forward our assistant director Shantai Gooby for the presentation.

[42:29] All right, good evening.

[42:30] Good evening.

[42:32] This property is located in the northeast quadrant of the city.

[42:37] This more specifically located along Oak Creek roads.

[42:41] I just sort of took to the top left.

[42:42] That would be high-story Yale.

[42:44] This resigning is divided into three different tracks.

[42:47] I'll go through them, but then I'll have a survey.

[42:49] I'll give you a little bit more detail.

[42:51] But track one is the bulk of the property you have track two, which goes around the perimeter and then track three I have a blow up of that so we're just a teeny tiny little piece fair and we'll talk about why that's been proposed for just office.

[43:09] So, again, this is the breakdown of the different zoning

[43:15] that they're asking for.

[43:16] Track 1 is for industry.

[43:19] Track 2 is office with a conservation overlay.

[43:22] And Track 3 is for clean office.

[43:26] This is a photograph of the property.

[43:30] So, Oak Creek Road would be sort of behind you.

[43:36] There is an activity center located along North Creek Road

[43:40] activity centers are where commercial and even industrial is encouraged and

[43:46] expected. Under the current zone, which is already 20, at full buildout, the number

[43:53] of trips will be roughly 1600, and at full buildout under the proposed

[43:58] zoning, the trips would be about 1548, so you have a net defaults of 48 or 43 trips.

[44:06] So because of that, when they did the initial analysis and it as a reproduction and trips,

[44:12] then they don't like further with the staff that you normally see.

[44:16] The property is located in the second.

[44:22] The Johnsonville Parker's Creek watershed, if storm water is required, it will require

[44:27] 10-year detention.

[44:29] The property is not located in a special flood hazard area and there are no potential wetlands,

[44:35] buffers or streams. Again, the property is currently zoned or a 20. I want to briefly talk

[44:42] about track 2 because that's a conservation area. Overlay that is typically not a rezoning

[44:50] that we have. This is a zoning that we've had for years. This is not something under the new

[44:57] and the reason it's used.

[45:00] And this is straight out of our UDO, is when property is signed with that C.A. overlay, then that means that you're prohibited from having buildings, structures, parking, and drives, etc. on that piece of property.

[45:15] So it is centrally acts as a buffer. And then just a little bit further, it says it shall remain undeveloped, vacant, and again, you can't put building structures or parking on it.

[45:26] And then one other requirement is as it has to be at least 100 feet wide.

[45:33] And so that's essentially why you have track two at that width that's surrounding track one.

[45:40] And the reason why is because the future land use plan recommends industrial or logistics in gray.

[45:48] And then you have the green and that's potential conservation of in space.

[45:51] And we talk about that brain serves two purposes.

[45:54] It can either serve as a purpose for potential environmental constraints,

[45:59] but it can also show that there should be some sort of a buffer between the industrial

[46:04] and then the yellow is residential.

[46:07] So in this case, the request is to put the conservation area overlay

[46:14] around the perimeter of the property.

[46:16] track 3 is that little tiny piece and they have left that as part of an access.

[46:24] So that's why the track 3 is just office by itself.

[46:29] So again, the future land use plan recommends industrial, the request for industrial

[46:36] with again, some conservation area, overlay around the periphery and

[46:41] and the request is in compliance with the

[46:44] comp plan with the future land use and

[46:46] character map, therefore staff recommends approval.

[46:50] And if the July 21st, 2026,

[46:52] planning and zoning meeting, the commission

[46:54] voted unanimously to recommend approval of the request.

[46:58] And I will be happy to answer any questions.

[47:01] All right. Thank you very much.

[47:02] Any questions for Ms. Scooby?

[47:04] I just have one.

[47:05] Is it my understanding that there's an additional buffer

[47:08] or between that and the properties surrounding it.

[47:14] Do you mean for tract two or tract two is the buffer?

[47:18] Tract two is the buffer, but that's more

[47:20] than what is normally required.

[47:24] Yes, it doesn't make sense.

[47:26] Yes, it will stay in its natural state.

[47:28] So whatever trees are there, those have to stay there.

[47:31] And again, you can't put parking and you can't put buildings in it,

[47:35] but you will still have the normal buffers that would be required as well.

[47:39] So that's an extra 100 feet of no buildings and no parking lot is essentially what that accomplishes and that is near

[47:48] Nipro, where Nipro is being yeah, that's just kind of to the south of it along North Creek Road

[47:56] Can you tell me a little bit more about whether it's a cookie cutter track three?

[48:02] I'll let the applicant but again

[48:04] Okay, that's the tiny piece is so there can be access

[48:07] ingress and ingress and egress, because you cannot put that through the conservation area

[48:13] over.

[48:15] But again, we have a representative who can talk a little bit more about it, but it was

[48:20] purposeful.

[48:24] All right.

[48:24] Other questions?

[48:26] Thank you very much.

[48:28] All right.

[48:28] The public here is now open.

[48:29] Those speaking behalf of the applicant may come forward.

[48:31] Please state your name for the record.

[48:32] The first person has 10 minutes.

[48:33] All others have three minutes.

[48:37] Good evening.

[48:38] Mayor Council member, my name is Kim Malpus, representative Pobot, to address your question, Mr. Roberts.

[48:44] What it is, is there is an existing gravel drive that provides access to a couple owners in the back.

[48:52] This old tram lane has been there for probably 75 or 80 years.

[48:57] And because of the way the conservation, you cannot put a problem of drive through it.

[49:02] So we had to separate out that so they could still keep that access.

[49:06] This is what it is and we never the neighbors and that's how this conservation overlay came about

[49:12] We had a 50-foot originally that would match the vegetation and they asked for another 50 feet and I think everybody was in a grins that

[49:20] With the compromise of that would be okay. We had to leave that for that would in the gate of the act

[49:26] By doing that was kind of my supposition

[49:33] Thank you

[49:34] Any other questions?

[49:34] All right.

[49:35] Any other questions from us about?

[49:36] Melt this.

[49:39] Thank you very much.

[49:40] Thank you.

[49:41] Anyone else that is here to speak on behalf of the applicant may come forward.

[49:44] Please state your name for the record.

[49:45] You have three minutes.

[49:57] Seeing none.

[49:57] Those in opposition to the applicant may come forward.

[49:59] Please state your name for the.

[50:00] The record of 1st person is 10 minutes, all others have 3 minutes.

[50:13] T9, public hearing is now closed up and for board discussion or motion?

[50:17] Motion 2.

[50:18] Second.

[50:19] Motion was made by Councillor Willis, second by council member Jones, all those in favor say aye.

[50:26] I suppose say nay.

[50:27] Motion passed 5.0.

[50:29] I don't know.

[50:30] I don't know.

[50:30] Thank you, Mayor.

[50:31] Item number 9, ordinance, ordinance requested by the Community and Development Services Department

[50:36] to amend the Unified Development Ordnance UDO to definitions and standards for short-term

[50:41] mental, home-state, and short-term, mental, whole-house lodging uses in adding these uses

[50:48] to section 313 table uses as permitted uses in the following zoning districts are a 20 residential

[50:54] agriculture, R15S residential single family, R9S residential single family, R6S residential

[51:02] single family, R9 residential, R6 residential, R6 A, residential, R6 and H, residential mobile

[51:09] home, T-H-1-0, tiny home community, MR, medical residential, MRS, medical residential

[51:16] single family, R, office residential, CD, downtown commercial, and CDF, downtown commercial

[51:23] fringe.

[51:24] Now, call for assistant director, shall I take good for the presentation?

[51:27] I don't want to say anything, but after you read that, our whole crowd left, almost our whole crowd.

[51:34] The three in the back are here for the long run, right?

[51:39] Well, try to make it as interesting as possible.

[51:44] So again, short term rentals, those can come on many different platforms.

[51:49] The most popular ones are Airbnb and Volvo.

[51:54] And generally you have two types of short term rentals.

[51:57] you have what we're calling the home stay, which is where you have a host on

[52:03] sat with you, whether it be an apartment or a house of some sort, and then we

[52:09] have what's called in the second definition, whole house lodging, and it's

[52:13] exactly what it sounds like. You get the whole dwelling to yourself. So we're just

[52:17] basically referring to it with the host and with our host.

[52:23] Several months ago

[52:24] So, city staff was able to use some software that deals with short-term rentals.

[52:33] This was done back in April of this year, and we were able to identify some with certainty

[52:39] and some with not exact specificity of short-term rentals that are in Greenbull, so we've

[52:46] shown those are with the blue dots, and then we broke those out into what zoning district

[52:52] they're in. And so at that time we had roughly 270 short terminals in the city.

[53:01] So now to talk

[53:02] about the new standards that come with this, I'm going to go through the home state or with

[53:08] host first. And one of the reasons why I'm doing this is because a lot of these carry over to the

[53:23] on a compliance permit. It's a one-time permit. There's no exterior advertising that's allowed,

[53:32] so no outside sign it. The owner operator does have to supply certificate of insurance in the amount

[53:40] of a million dollars in liability insurance for the property, and that has to be submitted

[53:45] with the permit application. Also, no special events or gatherings in excess of the registered

[53:52] guests and then any existing short-term rentals as up tonight if this is past has a year to

[54:00] get their permit with us. Like so these are the existing ones and then any new ones obviously

[54:05] would go ahead and ideally do their permit before they establish themselves as a short-term rental.

[54:11] We do recognize that we're going to have to do a little bit of publicity to bring awareness to them,

[54:18] some people probably may not even know that they have to do this.

[54:23] So that'll come if you approve this a text amendment.

[54:28] Another thing that we added is that any short-term rental

[54:33] that receives either three citations or warnings

[54:37] for ordinance violations.

[54:39] Some examples would be noise, trash and debris,

[54:42] or illegal parking within a 12 month period.

[54:46] may have their zoning compliance permit revved.

[54:50] Again, the intent is to not be punitive,

[54:52] but the intent is to make sure of that

[54:56] that Airbnb owner operator is a good neighbor.

[55:00] So, that's what we're really after. It is subject to citations and a little bit further I'll tell you the schedule of the amounts of the citations.

[55:12] This is for holdhouse. There's the same ones I've went through. So, I'm going to jump ahead to holdhouse lodging.

[55:22] So Hal House lodging means that the owner post is not on site.

[55:26] So we've got a two additional requirements.

[55:32] If the person who owes or operates the Airbnb does not live in Pitt County, then

[55:39] they're going to designate someone in Pitt County who will be a local contact.

[55:43] That could be a local contact, for planning staff, local contact, for even the police department

[55:49] So that that agent can accept any kind of issues or complaints and be able to respond to them.

[55:56] And again, this could be something as like an excessive amount of parking, noise, perhaps trash, and debris that's been left in the yard.

[56:05] But ideally, that would be a local contact easy for us to get in contact with and someone perhaps in Ohio that may not have an idea any of these things are going on.

[56:17] Again, we already have the forms and everything set up to go, so that if this is a proof

[56:23] we'll be ready to go.

[56:24] So the form for the agent is very short.

[56:28] It does lay out the responsibilities of that agent so that you understand if they are going

[56:33] to be an agent or someone what that means, again, that they're going to have to receive

[56:37] and respond to complaints.

[56:40] This last section basically, just again, not to be punitive, it does give a grace period that

[56:46] if you have an agent and an agent says, actually, I'm moving to Texas, it gives you some

[56:54] time to appoint a new agent and get their information to us.

[57:00] As far as the citations, these are the same citations for any kind of zoning violation,

[57:06] And that is, the first violation is $100.

[57:10] A second violation is a second violation

[57:14] within 365 days of the first.

[57:17] That amount is 250.

[57:19] And the third, again, is within 365 days of the first

[57:24] violation.

[57:25] And that amount is $500.

[57:28] This is the table of uses.

[57:31] And so what this is showing is that all of the districts

[57:35] That allowed residential. We have added you'll see the red piece so that means it's a permitted use does not require special use permit

[57:45] This will be for both of those uses, so both uses will will be allowed in the very same districts

[57:53] In

[57:53] the request and compliance with the comprehensive plan, specifically Chapter 5, creating complete

[58:00] neighbourhoods, goal 5.1, strong existing neighbourhoods, gravel will have strong established

[58:06] neighbourhoods with support for neighbourhoods, support for neighbourhood organisations,

[58:11] high quality housing unique character and robust integration with the rest of the community.

[58:16] therefore, staff recommends approval.

[58:20] And at the July 21st,

[58:21] 2026, planning and zoning commission,

[58:24] the commission voted unanimously

[58:26] to recommend approval of the request.

[58:29] And I'll be happy to answer any questions.

[58:31] Any questions?

[58:33] Excuse me.

[58:34] Sean, can you remind me of the period of time

[58:37] that an owner would have to replace an agent?

[58:41] We have said 10 days, 10 days.

[58:46] And then you said it was a year, they have a year to get the permit that this is passed.

[58:51] For existing, for pre-existing ones, yes.

[58:54] And again, that's probably going to take a little bit of word of mouth to make people aware of that.

[58:59] But we've given a grace period of a year.

[59:02] Okay. And then, I can't remember if we finalized this, but what was the legality of this?

[59:08] I know we discussed that in a workshop.

[59:13] The City Attorney's Office is of the view that this is legally defensible and it will be a compliance.

[59:19] Are there any other peer cities that are doing something similar to this?

[59:23] The several cities that have short-term or short-term rental ordinances to a morally

[59:29] ashyl?

[59:29] Are they similar to what we're proposing?

[59:32] I think Rolly was very similar to them.

[59:34] And there has been a case law, nobody tried to sue the city over it.

[59:41] Well, there has passed some legislation, a litigation out of Wilmington dealing with a rental

[59:46] registration challenge, but we believe this is not a rental registration program, this is a regulation of short-term rentals, but it's not a rental registration program, so we think this is legally defensible.

[1:00:00] Can you go back to the citations again?

[1:00:09] And this would be notice of isolation, so a parking through the police department may be a little different.

[1:00:18] Then if it makes its way to associate as a parking issue and we would be notified as part of having the permits.

[1:00:29] One 23 Main Street had a, you know, a hacker and they had 25 cars and we had to send the police out there and have them disperse.

[1:00:43] And then as far as like the complaints are concerned, are those complaints that are sent to directly to the city and the city investigates to see if it's a legitimate complaint?

[1:00:55] And I guess where I'm going with this is that each person's idea of quiet and peaceful is different in there.

[1:01:04] And their type of nuisance is always different.

[1:01:07] Some people don't want to see any of it.

[1:01:09] Some of them could just be calling in complaining just because they know what's going on and saw the dwelling and know that it's something they don't want to see.

[1:01:17] But they just might be complaining.

[1:01:18] And so I guess my idea is, I want to make sure that whoever's making the complaint is being

[1:01:25] bedded by the city and the city can go ahead and say, well, this is a legitimate complaint.

[1:01:28] This is just somebody that's angry and just doesn't like that particular neighbor and their property.

[1:01:34] We deal with that a lot.

[1:01:36] That's one person's tolerance is much higher, lower than their neighbors.

[1:01:41] So along with the permit, we haven't indexed where we would keep track of the properties.

[1:01:47] That would allow PD or even code enforcement to be able to cross-reference that.

[1:01:54] We would essentially be the keeper of the information.

[1:01:58] Someone could still go on the city compass.

[1:02:01] We would probably need to add that as a new issue from the drop-down box.

[1:02:06] And I would think that that would probably come through planning first.

[1:02:10] If it is more of a lot of parking, let's say, the best solution would be to go through

[1:02:21] PD.

[1:02:22] Obviously it's not an emergency, but PD is 24 hours, we're 8 to 5, but basically the different

[1:02:35] tentacles will still rest within the planning department is how it would work.

[1:02:39] So I guess I think of the situation where you could have a neighbor that's just not happy, right, and they find out that within a certain amount of complaints, they could get the neighboring property that they're not happy with multiple citations and potentially get them into some legal issues.

[1:02:59] So I guess my thought is if the police department is called out to let's say one of the short-term

[1:03:06] rentals and they just say it was because a lot of noise they got there and say it's nothing

[1:03:12] well they call them again and happens again let's say they come out there four or five times and then the

[1:03:17] neighbor says I'm doing all these hypothetical things but this is probably a realistic situation

[1:03:25] They go out there and they say, well, they call it the planning department and say, well, the police have been out there five times, you know, I don't understand why we're not doing anything with it.

[1:03:34] How is that going to be handled, I guess, as far as the complaint, because it's going to be locked at the police were out there five times, but how legitimate were those five phone calls as far as an actual nuisance.

[1:03:48] Right. Well, we would get the disposition, right? So we would know if it was founded if they showed up and it was quiet and everyone were being good listeners.

[1:03:58] So we as the planning department would have some idea. Yes, you have five calls for service, but actually only one time was there actually an issue.

[1:04:07] So, it will put on staff as sometimes there are of threading the needle of taking those

[1:04:20] different complaints, figuring out which really do hit a mark and which of those are

[1:04:27] maybe someone losing patience in their calling every 15 minutes.

[1:04:32] So, that happens in other things as well when we get complaints and what do you know it's already disappeared by the time that we get there.

[1:04:41] But what will happen or what will at least give us some way of communicating directly is that either will have the person on the permit or we will have a local contact.

[1:04:55] And if that local contact says, listen, this is my sister's place.

[1:04:59] It's great.

[1:05:00] Can you tell us who your sister is? And that is a way that staff can directly communicate with someone that we may not be able to read.

[1:05:09] They may have a run of fat guests, you know, and that happens as well. But the other thing is that at least verbo and Airbnb have a system themselves.

[1:05:21] For if you live beside your property and you have issues, you can log those complaints with Airbnb and verbo as well.

[1:05:28] So there is a couple of things that is is a completely fail-safe net and there is going

[1:05:35] to take some some discretion of how we deal with issues that come up.

[1:05:43] Okay.

[1:05:44] And then the other question I have to is as far as somebody that is deciding about doing like a short-term

[1:05:52] rental, let it be one of the two scenarios, what is there a penalty if they do not file?

[1:05:58] And I guess my thought process is you're going to have a lot of people that have not been used to it.

[1:06:04] There's never been a filing period.

[1:06:07] What type of penalty would be if somebody is operating one and then staff is notified that someone so in my neighborhood has an Airbnb and you say,

[1:06:17] Well, it's on log.

[1:06:18] We don't have them there.

[1:06:18] You send them a letter.

[1:06:20] Is there a penalty or is it just a requirement that within a certain period of time they need to go ahead and file?

[1:06:24] The first letter is always, this has been brought to our attention, again, we could be wrong.

[1:06:30] You may not be an Airbnb, but it starts with a letter.

[1:06:35] If you have any questions, please contact us.

[1:06:39] And in these cases, we can direct them back to the planning site, because the fillable forms will be there.

[1:06:45] And they can go, oh, I didn't know I was supposed to do that. Click, click, click, and they send us what they need.

[1:06:51] Generally, we give folks about 10 days to respond if we don't hear anything.

[1:06:57] We'll do a second in OV.

[1:07:02] We can do citations, which is what is in front of you.

[1:07:05] We can do that schedule of citations.

[1:07:08] But obviously, we want to make sure that we are actually trying to track a short-term

[1:07:12] rental, and it's not something else.

[1:07:14] But the very first thing would be a nice but far and letter we believe he might be operating short-term

[1:07:22] and only we would need you to a proper permit.

[1:07:26] Final question.

[1:07:27] I see we got first second and third.

[1:07:29] What's the fourth?

[1:07:32] There is.

[1:07:33] My fourth.

[1:07:35] That's where I'm going to call Mr. MacGurt and say Mr. MacGurt.

[1:07:38] We do not have a good listener.

[1:07:40] What would we like?

[1:07:41] That's not going to say.

[1:07:41] And so then that that turns my attention to is I guess probably revocation maybe of a permit and I guess from a legal standpoint, how does the city defend removing somebody's legal permit to be able to operate a short term rental.

[1:08:00] It's taking away their right as a property owner.

[1:08:03] We could bring it so action to collect the penalties and also bring it in junction action to revoke the permit and

[1:08:11] We have to see the operating in the end of the quarter order.

[1:08:14] So, but I guess from a legal standpoint, how do we, where do we stand if somebody says

[1:08:20] what you're taking away in my property rights, by allowing me to be able to operate a business

[1:08:24] out of the property that I own, do we have any case law that says that we have the right to

[1:08:31] be able to do something like that, where we can prevent somebody from actually having

[1:08:35] an rental?

[1:08:36] Well, the case law says that cities have the authority to zone, to zone buildings and land,

[1:08:42] the short-term rental case that I was talking about in one week, and it said that they had a,

[1:08:46] the one week in the program was illegal because it was a rental registration program with the court said that the cities could still zone,

[1:08:53] use zoning to regulate short-term rentals, and we drafted this ordinance and light of that case.

[1:08:59] So we could bring us still action to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to.

[1:09:04] So, essentially there's nothing, I guess, who would just be, if somebody decided to just kind of like make it sue for any other reason that they would establish the case law for.

[1:09:13] They could try to sue and say, we're taking away the property right.

[1:09:16] The case law was clear.

[1:09:17] CDC have an authority to zone property and to enact short term rental zoning ordinances as well.

[1:09:24] You have to make sure that it's not a rental registration program or it's not a down zone.

[1:09:29] But CDC has authority to zone.

[1:09:31] So, we can zone, we also can put reasonable time place in a circumstance as restrictions.

[1:09:38] We're not taking away their property right, we're regulating it and if they don't comply,

[1:09:43] that's on them.

[1:09:44] So, we're not taking away if they comply, nothing's taken.

[1:09:48] I mean, I do as comply with it.

[1:09:50] And this is very reasonable, probably.

[1:09:52] It's a lot less than what I would like to say, but it's a starting point.

[1:09:56] And I'm not argue that I just understand.

[1:09:58] I just want to see from the...

[1:10:00] The situation, if we get into that, because you've got a lot of people that are operating right now. I'm sure they're not going to be real happy about the changes and having to register and go through the process and having this. My thought is, you probably have some anger people, and I want to make sure it's defensible from a city standpoint. And again, it's not a registration, it's requiring them to get a zoning permit, and we're giving them one year. Those existing short-term rental giving them one year to obtain the permit.

[1:10:26] It would be the same thing as a home owner who's subject to nuisance.

[1:10:30] We have a nuisance ordinance in the city of Greenville that has homeowners or people who live

[1:10:34] in the home.

[1:10:34] We're all subject to, and so it's no different.

[1:10:37] We're just putting in here like you're subject to these types of violations if you don't

[1:10:41] run your business appropriately.

[1:10:44] I don't see any problem with it from a standpoint because I look at this pretty heavily,

[1:10:48] and I think it's a good starting point.

[1:10:50] And maybe we can even look further down the road, but I don't see any legal problems with it

[1:10:53] in terms of what we've done because it's so minor.

[1:10:55] and it puts the onus on them that you're only paying any fees or anything if you violate

[1:11:00] what are typically regional standards, there's no sense in the boy and use of drugs or

[1:11:06] control substances or no resources and part of violations that we've regulated for centuries in

[1:11:12] this city. Not centuries but a long time. Thank you Mr. Attorney. Thank you Mr. Attorney. If you

[1:11:19] well. I had the same questions but it was from the other end of the spectrum that if somebody

[1:11:25] consistently violates you know what would happen because you know it affects citizens quality of life

[1:11:31] so that was where my concern was, is what would happen at that point so I appreciate you answering that question.

[1:11:39] All right.

[1:11:40] Then did you say that we don't know the exact location of all short term rules?

[1:11:45] Yeah.

[1:11:46] The website that we use is more of a more of a website for an investor but we were able to

[1:11:54] download that information. Some of the things, some of the properties we were able to identify

[1:11:58] because people actually put the picture of house on it. So we're like, oh, that's the one.

[1:12:04] Some for whatever reason don't put the picture of the house. So the pen just sort of sits in the

[1:12:09] middle of the street. So we have a pen, we know about where it is. So we can put it together, but some

[1:12:17] of them are a little fuzzier. So we have to do some slew thing of our own to try to take out some

[1:12:23] static. So, let's say potentially for one of the properties that we don't know

[1:12:29] the exact location up on the 365 day mark comes across how we're going to

[1:12:34] ensure that all short-term rentals aren't compliance. If we don't know the

[1:12:38] exact location, is it going to be like a honor system for the operators?

[1:12:43] Somewhat of the honor system, but also we as staff will still have to keep track

[1:12:49] because you could have some people who fall out of the market who

[1:12:53] decide they don't want to do it anymore. But, you know, we did this about a year or so ago,

[1:13:00] I think we added maybe 80 more units since that time. So it will constantly be where a staff

[1:13:07] will have to go in. Harvest, as due as best as we can, and some of them may be from phone calls

[1:13:15] And someone reporting, it's an Airbnb, okay.

[1:13:20] So it is not a perfect science, Airbnb.

[1:13:24] Again, it doesn't require you to put the picture

[1:13:26] of the property because that is a security issue.

[1:13:30] So it will be a little sleeve thing on our side as well.

[1:13:34] So some properties could potentially slip

[1:13:36] that the guy actually said.

[1:13:38] Well, yes.

[1:13:40] However,

[1:13:44] if they are good listeners,

[1:13:45] we may not know that they are there. And that's the intention is to be a good name for.

[1:13:52] And then I'll ask a little more question. Do they have a how often does the

[1:13:56] permit need to be earned in? Is it every year? Went down. Just went down.

[1:14:00] Did we say that? I can't remember. Did we say that the amount for the permit? Is there a mail?

[1:14:06] We have not. It's not in the manual of fees. So,

[1:14:10] I

[1:14:14] mean, is it something that we should have, you know, you have to renew every year so we can keep better track of which ones are still operating and which ones are new?

[1:14:25] That would be something for the whole council to think about. We have just put it as a one-time program.

[1:14:31] I think one of our attorneys over here had something to say Mr. Mr. Birch.

[1:14:36] If you want to Mr. Birch.

[1:14:38] These are that would be no.

[1:14:40] If because that would be kind of an ounce of the registration,

[1:14:43] in order to be compliant with state law,

[1:14:46] would you do it more than that.

[1:14:48] And if you've added it to one time,

[1:14:53] registration or one.

[1:14:54] What use that word?

[1:14:55] Don't think that.

[1:14:57] All right, thank you.

[1:14:59] Yeah.

[1:14:59] I appreciate it.

[1:15:18] All right, if no other questions, public hearing is now open, those are speaking behalf of the

[1:15:26] for the record for the first person to submit,

[1:15:28] it's all others have three minutes.

[1:15:42] Well, good evening.

[1:15:44] Council, I am the United States Diamond.

[1:15:46] I have been a resident of Greenville for two and a half years.

[1:15:49] Resident of North Carolina for eight years.

[1:15:52] I would like to show my appreciation for this ordinance.

[1:15:55] I think this is a very good step,

[1:15:57] and I would like to see, I loved your comment

[1:16:00] about wanting to see more pushes.

[1:16:03] I would love to see more pushes and more restrictions

[1:16:05] on European B's and other sorts of releases.

[1:16:08] I think, as a whole, this is going to be very good for the community, especially given a time

[1:16:13] where the housing market is inflating way more than it should be.

[1:16:17] And at the same time, I think this potentially bring down a lot of, you know, the threshold

[1:16:24] for people to be able to rent or, you know, mortgage in the city.

[1:16:29] I'm sorry.

[1:16:32] This would also bring more business to our local hotel industry, which would be very

[1:16:35] nice for us to have.

[1:16:38] Though I would like to see more pushes, notably in a lot of

[1:16:41] disowning, such as R6, which does include a lot of

[1:16:45] apartments.

[1:16:46] And I feel like if that is included, it does run the risk of

[1:16:50] somebody potentially using an Airbnb to try to

[1:16:54] undercut our hotels.

[1:16:55] And I know there are a lot of people, particularly people

[1:16:59] in a Greenville power, who can utilize this if they so

[1:17:03] Please, I'm saying anybody will, but it is a possibility that could be worrying.

[1:17:09] But as a whole, I like this ordinance.

[1:17:13] This feels like it will be good for the community.

[1:17:17] Thank you.

[1:17:18] Thank you.

[1:17:21] Anyone else who like to speak on behalf of the applicant may come forward, please state your name for the record.

[1:17:26] Do you have three minutes?

[1:17:37] Seeing none, those officers of the applicant may come forward, please state your name for the record.

[1:17:40] First person of seven minutes, all others have three minutes.

[1:17:54] Seeing none of the public hearing is now closed and for board discussion or motion?

[1:17:58] Measure approved.

[1:17:59] Second.

[1:18:01] Motion was made by Council Member Hardy, sigma 9, Mayor Protem.

[1:18:06] Forman?

[1:18:06] Any other discussion?

[1:18:09] All those in favor say aye?

[1:18:11] As opposed to say nay?

[1:18:12] Motion passes by zero.

[1:18:14] Moving on to item number 10.

[1:18:16] Our final public hearing.

[1:18:17] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:18:18] Item number 10, ordinance requested by the community and development services department to

[1:18:22] of the required number of professional security personnel and alcohol establishments, bar

[1:18:29] 2022, micro brewery, and micro distillery that provide amplifiers entertainment after 11

[1:18:35] PM, or again call forward or assistant director Shantai Gooby for the presentation.

[1:18:44] Hopefully this is very short. This is just an item to clarify. We kind of talked about this a

[1:18:50] a little bit. This first deals with what staff considers alcohol establishments. We have

[1:18:57] or, excuse me, we have four different uses in the city that we sort of categorize under

[1:19:02] that umbrella, a bar, bar 2022, micro brewery, micro distillery, primary activity, obviously

[1:19:11] cell, consumption of alcohol, on-site. All of these establishments have the ability to have

[1:19:16] mixed beverage programs.

[1:19:18] That's a little different than just one ampere.

[1:19:21] In May of this year, city staff brought a text amendment to clarify the number of professional

[1:19:28] security personnel that are required at alcoholist establishments with amplified entertainment

[1:19:35] after 11pm, so it only counts after 11pm.

[1:19:40] At that meeting, there was some discussion that requiring security personnel may be burdensome

[1:19:46] to small businesses. After there was some discussion, staffs bringing this back with the

[1:19:52] text amendment in its same version. As far as amplified entertain that, or UDO says,

[1:20:00] For example, if I'd entertain that, I'd show me any type of music or other entertainment delivered through embatt, and electronic systems.

[1:20:07] Like, a music, it could be picked out.

[1:20:10] So the proposed language, again, is based on the occupancy of the building, so it's not based on the number of people that are there at that night.

[1:20:19] And so what this says is if you have an occupancy between 1 and 200, you will have two security personnel required to be on site.

[1:20:29] And then for every 100 people, essentially you add one more person. So 2 to 300 would be 3.

[1:20:38] And then it goes a bit further to say, again, after 11pm,

[1:20:43] Shallot employ no less than two security guards in order for one security guard to be inside and then one security guard to be able to

[1:20:52] Patrol

[1:20:52] Prad it parking lot. So if they're downtown and they don't actually have a parking lot then both of the security personnel can be inside

[1:21:02] In

[1:21:02] Saps opinion this request is in compliance with the comprehensive plan

[1:21:07] Chapter four growing the economic hub which is gold 4.3

[1:21:12] modernize and diversify the local economy, support the growth of a variety of employing

[1:21:17] opportunities and businesses that diversify Green Bull's economy, provide workers with a range

[1:21:23] of skill sets and training and encourage business growth within the incorporated areas and

[1:21:28] diversify Green Bull's tax base.

[1:21:30] And then further we also have a second one in here.

[1:21:33] This is from Chapter 1, and this is growing the economic cub, 1.4, a vibrant town, support

[1:21:40] One control uptown nightlife permit uptown is Greenville's vibrant and walkable nightlife district

[1:21:45] that supports a variety of high quality, responsible drinking, and restaurant establishments.

[1:21:50] A thriving nightlife that can attract and retain young professionals that in turn attract

[1:21:55] high quality employers.

[1:21:56] This does not mean that life activities need to be allowed to run out of control, appropriate

[1:22:01] standards for these businesses should be informed so that uptown can be enjoyed safely

[1:22:06] and responsible.

[1:22:07] Therefore, staff recommends approval of the proposed amendment.

[1:22:12] This was a little different at the July 21st, 2026, planning and only commission.

[1:22:19] They voted unanimously with a motion, but the motion had a little tweak to it.

[1:22:25] So they did recommend approval, but they went further and said, while the commission

[1:22:31] did recommend approval of the amendment, there was language included in the motion that

[1:22:35] there should be consideration given to the economic impact on small businesses to consider

[1:22:40] the use of bounceers as a substitute for professional security personnel.

[1:22:47] And with that, I'll be glad to answer any questions.

[1:22:50] Any questions?

[1:22:51] One question on your proposed language, if you go back to it.

[1:22:58] There is a says, 1200, you really mean one, the 200, don't you?

[1:23:02] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:23:03] There's a half in this.

[1:23:04] I'm sorry.

[1:23:05] Okay, just that, and that's it.

[1:23:09] And why are, uh,

[1:23:12] staggering back the same version of the text of it?

[1:23:19] When I brought it to you in May,

[1:23:22] there was some discussion, I don't want to call names,

[1:23:25] but there was some discussion that perhaps this was expensive

[1:23:30] and that it could be overly burdensome

[1:23:33] to some of the establishments.

[1:23:36] We had a council work session, I don't know if you were.

[1:23:38] back that one and so the decision was to go with the professional security as opposed to the

[1:23:45] vouchers because professional security personnel would include off duty costs or actual

[1:23:53] professional security personnel as opposed to vouchers have less training and vouchers

[1:24:02] per view if you will stop at the door of the establishment so they can't go any further.

[1:24:07] So, you're going to get a person with more training and the ability to

[1:24:21] provide service outside

[1:24:22] of the establishment.

[1:24:25] And then, just to make sure that I'm clear, are the current bars, whatever you want to

[1:24:32] call grandfathered into this.

[1:24:33] Yes, it's not that.

[1:24:34] Any free existing.

[1:24:37] So, would include any business that ends up with a special use permit under 4202?

[1:24:44] My collaborator, my collaborator, distillery, bar 2021 take.

[1:24:48] Yes, any of the four.

[1:24:53] Me, parts last still have the same opinion as the council member of Scully.

[1:24:57] When this is the last part of, I do think this will be.

[1:25:00] I've heard some of the small businesses, and I also think that it will keep the cost to us out of the awesome jobs, because those are who mainly staff in balance, the clubs in the nightlife down here.

[1:25:13] So I just want to make that be an effort.

[1:25:16] All right. Any other comments?

[1:25:20] I have one and I don't even drink and I'm swimming in alcohol after all this conversation.

[1:25:29] about this, but has there been any conversation with businesses of bar owners outside of downtown?

[1:25:44] No, because the ones that we have now are under the old rules.

[1:25:51] So the answer is no, but we also don't have very many of them either.

[1:25:57] the microglories and the microdicillaries we have a really down town and they're not going

[1:26:04] to be affected because they already have a special use permit so they were ahead of this.

[1:26:11] So my point is it is it's only going to affect those that would walk in the door and we would

[1:26:18] say oh by the way this is a new requirement.

[1:26:25] I ask our deputy chief a question about this.

[1:26:29] The police department feel that this is something that is necessary slash y'all won't see.

[1:26:37] Sorry, put y'all on the screen.

[1:26:38] No pressure.

[1:26:43] Have y'all had problems.

[1:26:45] The

[1:27:02] good politician answer right there.

[1:27:05] I like that.

[1:27:08] All right, any other questions?

[1:27:10] Comments?

[1:27:13] Thank you very much.

[1:27:14] Public hearing is now open.

[1:27:15] Those speaking of the upcoming four police station A for the record.

[1:27:17] First person of the semis all others have three minutes.

[1:27:32] So, none of those opposition to the applicant may come forward, please state your name for the record of the first person in 10 minutes, all others have three minutes.

[1:27:52] So, none of the public hearing is now closed up and for board discussion or a motion?

[1:27:57] So, if one makes a motion and I don't have a motion.

[1:28:01] But if one makes a motion, would that be with the suggestion of...

[1:28:08] You could take whatever motion you want to make.

[1:28:10] I don't want to make it.

[1:28:12] You can take their motion.

[1:28:13] You can take the staff's motion.

[1:28:14] You can make up a motion.

[1:28:22] I don't have a motion.

[1:28:25] Did I answer your question?

[1:28:27] Did I answer your question?

[1:28:28] May or if I may, this to me is really interesting

[1:28:32] because I feel like at the core of it,

[1:28:35] our conversations have been centered around safety.

[1:28:39] And so looking at the request of planning and zoning

[1:28:41] to ought to use balcers, but if they have to stop at the door, then I don't know that

[1:28:48] that achieves the safety that we were looking for for inside the establishment and then

[1:28:53] out.

[1:28:54] But then also, for the establishment that are already in business, this doesn't affect them.

[1:29:03] It's not retroactive, so this is going forward, so you don't want to implement something

[1:29:10] And that's cost prohibitive to a new business that's starting their business.

[1:29:16] It's an interesting proposition, I think.

[1:29:23] Do you have a motion?

[1:29:29] I don't mind making a motion.

[1:29:36] I don't think this is at least from my point of view.

[1:29:41] I'm not against safety around these establishments,

[1:29:44] But I just, I just really think it would be cost-per-hibited

[1:29:48] and kind of restrict what these businesses could do

[1:29:50] in a night and night basis.

[1:29:52] They'd really have to be mindful of, you know,

[1:29:54] what days that it's not to provide amplified music

[1:29:57] past 11 o'clock.

[1:30:05] I'll make a motion to approve the text as tendered and the reason why is because I've dealt with downtown for 40 years as a criminal lawyer.

[1:30:14] And I've seen the carnage calls by people in the bars who've consumed way too much. They weren't just drinking, they were intoxicated and served by bars.

[1:30:23] And I think if you give a talk to the officers on the streets, they will tell you that

[1:30:27] oftentimes when people come out of bars or not just drinking, they are completely intoxicated

[1:30:31] and just drunk.

[1:30:32] And today, I had to read, because of the case of a very serious injury that occurred in

[1:30:40] bar, and no balancers were around.

[1:30:44] And they may have probably prevented it, had they been.

[1:30:47] And when you use the word balancer, what does that really mean?

[1:30:50] It means you do a higher college kid to come in and provide security.

[1:30:54] It oftentimes is a workout for that if you want to give bully people and use that power.

[1:30:59] That's what my experience has been.

[1:31:00] Now, those watching on TV, you may have harsh words, but you can have all the harsh words you want.

[1:31:05] It's the truth.

[1:31:06] And I've seen it for 40 years.

[1:31:09] So I don't want some 20-year-old kid in a month trying to crack on a 20-year-old,

[1:31:13] providing security when something goes south because people have had too much alcohol

[1:31:17] to drink because they've been the bar for a while.

[1:31:19] And so if you've got some professional security level of it, then you've got better training

[1:31:24] about how to de-escalate, because what I find in the past is what Balsers do, the first thing

[1:31:29] they won't do is to strike.

[1:31:31] And I've represented Balsers, who've been sued because their Balsers have struck.

[1:31:35] Even though they've been trained, don't strike people, grapple and escort.

[1:31:40] But that doesn't seem to for my experience.

[1:31:43] That's why I do this.

[1:31:44] It's not going to affect either Balsers and the current incos are grandfathered in so you're

[1:31:48] But going forward, I think if you're going to be in the business of serving an alcohol late at night and people tend to

[1:31:54] And buy because how do you get drunk if you're in the bar if you're not serving you when they probably shouldn't be serving you?

[1:32:01] They're serving you too much alcohol and when you get too much alcohol people bounce into each other or see somebody's girl

[1:32:06] And there's comments back in the fourth and you and you've got to fight and then when somebody gets hit it's not the strike that hurts and this when they fall in the concrete

[1:32:13] And hit their head and get a brain bleed and get brain damage

[1:32:17] And I've seen hundreds of cases like that in 40 years.

[1:32:21] So I'm a little tough on this, I know.

[1:32:23] But again, a balanced, there's nothing more that I see as a college kid, it's just working

[1:32:28] in there part of time for $13-14 an hour, so what level of professionalism do you get?

[1:32:34] You get what you pay for.

[1:32:36] So that's why I make the motion that we should have thought that as tendered and without the

[1:32:42] balance, there's a substance to it, because I just think what you're really saying is, let us

[1:32:45] somebody cheap who's a college kid and usually professional security has liability in place.

[1:32:51] I'm an insurance, so if something does go to sale, you've got liability insurance policy

[1:32:55] that can get somebody to go after this security personnel went too far.

[1:33:00] And again, you see it, I've seen it time and time again, multiple bars have been sued down

[1:33:04] down.

[1:33:05] So you're making a motion for the staff first?

[1:33:07] Yeah.

[1:33:08] The staff's back in a day.

[1:33:09] All right.

[1:33:09] Tracking that link.

[1:33:11] Anybody have a second?

[1:33:12] How's that getting the motion?

[1:33:14] All right.

[1:33:14] Any other discussion?

[1:33:19] Speak down for our older piece.

[1:33:23] All right.

[1:33:23] Motion to May.

[1:33:24] But Councilmember Robinson.

[1:33:25] It's like my Councilmember Willis.

[1:33:26] All those of you who say aye.

[1:33:27] Aye.

[1:33:27] That's both a saying aye.

[1:33:29] Motion passes five.

[1:33:32] All right.

[1:33:33] That was it for the public hearings.

[1:33:34] We'll move on to other items of business.

[1:33:35] Number 11.

[1:33:36] All right.

[1:33:37] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:33:37] Item number 11.

[1:33:38] Resolution.

[1:33:39] Approving an interlocal agreement with

[1:33:41] PIT County PIT Area Transit System.

[1:33:43] Related to providing paratransit transportation services within

[1:33:46] the territory of the jurisdiction of the City Green Bull. I'll call for it our transit manager

[1:33:50] with Davidson for short presentation.

[1:33:52] Thank you. Good evening. Good evening.

[1:33:57] Good evening. I'm looking forward to your short presentation. I want to give you a brief update

[1:34:02] on where we are at our ADA Paratransit Service. Just a reminder, ADA Paratransit is the mandatory

[1:34:09] point to transportation that we have to provide for a qualifying customers with disabilities

[1:34:14] in which this building affects their access to fixed route bus.

[1:34:19] This is Kerbe Kerbe and it's reimbursed at 80% of operating cost, 85% of capital cost.

[1:34:27] Please to announce since we were here talking about Kerbe transit last,

[1:34:33] that the city of Greenville and Piccadilly was selected to receive $200,000 each

[1:34:38] as part of our coordinated public transportation grant to continue our partnership

[1:34:42] effort to provide this transportation service. Great will use the funds to pay for trips

[1:34:50] that the county will provide and pets will purchase vehicles, I believe, with their funds.

[1:34:57] So we have been able to negotiate renew.

[1:35:00] We partnership for FY2627. Pat's went through a fully allocated cost model exercise with NCDOT staff to

[1:35:10] set their trip rate, so their new trip rate at a break even point is $27 per trip. The city is

[1:35:19] still on track, or scheduled to begin. Partial ADA Paratroon is that service that we will

[1:35:26] provide in October. The service is going to be provided with four vans, three, which will be

[1:35:33] ADA accessible. One is a mevan. We're in the process of creating the new positions working with

[1:35:40] HR to get that finalized. We have trip booking software that's going to manage all of the

[1:35:46] clients' bookings. Customers can book via a level app or by calling all this. It's a picture of

[1:35:55] what the vehicles will look like that will provide the service that we have many

[1:35:58] van and then the have roof vans with a transit style door. It has an ADA lift in the back.

[1:36:08] So, great will be the primary provider once we begin service in October.

[1:36:14] Like I said, great will run four van's pets will provide two to three and we're still talking

[1:36:20] about about 2,250 rides per month for this program.

[1:36:26] The hours of operation, and this was a point, we spoke about back in February, and we

[1:36:32] were able to go back and negotiate with the pets that they will continue to provide the

[1:36:37] trips from 4 a.m. to 6 a.m. mainly to Alice's patients. Great and pets will provide service

[1:36:43] from 6 to 6, and then great will provide the service from 6 until 830. On weekdays, Saturdays,

[1:36:50] same theme paths will provide the early morning, 4 to 9. We have different hours on Saturdays,

[1:36:57] so the hours will match the service to great provides, 9 to 430, great end paths, paths

[1:37:03] if needed, and in paths will do 430 to 6 on Saturday.

[1:37:08] All right.

[1:37:09] We will notify customers of the change that great will be the primary provider, pass

[1:37:15] to be the secondary provider through electronic mail, USPS, starting in September, all existing

[1:37:22] customers data will be exported into our new system eligibility requirements will not

[1:37:27] change.

[1:37:31] We're request that Council will approve the FYI 2627 Air Local Agreement with PIC County.

[1:37:38] All right, any questions?

[1:37:41] I did have a question here.

[1:37:42] Do I understand you correctly to say that the new assess cost is $27.

[1:37:49] For a ride.

[1:37:50] Previously it was $9.

[1:37:52] It was $18.

[1:37:53] So $9.

[1:37:55] Both ways.

[1:37:56] Or is it $18?

[1:37:57] $18.

[1:37:57] One way.

[1:37:59] And so the increase to $27.

[1:38:02] Now one way for it.

[1:38:06] And there's nothing that is anything that we can do to affect that cost for citizens.

[1:38:17] So the 27th, the citizen won't pay that.

[1:38:19] So that's the cost that the city will pay the county per trip.

[1:38:23] City pays the county per trip.

[1:38:24] Okay, and so then from the actual rider, what does that look like for the actual rider?

[1:38:29] today that is still free when the city begins charging a fair and that's

[1:38:35] later for some point in October. Then what the federal government allows is

[1:38:41] twice the normal fair. So if we were charging $1 for a bus fair then the

[1:38:47] fair for a patch Raby B2 dollars. Okay so I'm thinking about the cost for a

[1:38:52] And that's outside of a particular program or whatnot.

[1:38:58] I was told that it was $9 per trip.

[1:39:01] I think that's the cost that a citizen of Piquan pays to write pets versus a citizen.

[1:39:07] They were writing it as a county citizen, writing the county system, not a grieble resident,

[1:39:14] using the ADA per transit system.

[1:39:17] because we work with the county to provide our ADA paradox.

[1:39:20] It's with the city of the city.

[1:39:22] Right.

[1:39:24] OK.

[1:39:25] So within the city limits it's for it's paying $20.

[1:39:30] It wants you to pay $21, the free.

[1:39:33] Yeah, the free.

[1:39:34] Yeah.

[1:39:35] That's not pays.

[1:39:36] Don't pay.

[1:39:37] My customer does not pay today.

[1:39:39] OK, that is what we are paying.

[1:39:40] We pay the county, the county.

[1:39:42] Winnie, we will pay the county, 27, for that they propose.

[1:39:45] Which previously was 18.

[1:39:46] Correct. Got okay. I got it now. Okay. All right. Just like that. You got it free. Oh, you're doing this. I think I got it understanding. Thank you.

[1:39:56] All right. Any other questions comments? No, I do want to say I'm I'm sorry.

[1:40:00] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The time changed so that we can make sure that all of our citizens can get to any appointments they need to be. And with that, I move the wheel for a minute.

[1:40:11] And I seconded with being specific about those citizens that are impacted by dialysis and need to get to their appointments. So we're greatly appreciative of that.

[1:40:24] So, we second in the motion or second in the comment.

[1:40:27] Second in both.

[1:40:29] I like that.

[1:40:30] All right.

[1:40:30] Motion to May.

[1:40:31] If I can't remember.

[1:40:32] Gentlemen.

[1:40:32] Second.

[1:40:33] Mayor.

[1:40:34] Mayor.

[1:40:34] If we could get an update at our next.

[1:40:40] Workshop about the rollout of the shelters.

[1:40:44] I would love to be able to follow us to note.

[1:40:47] Together where we are with that rollout.

[1:40:49] And how many more we have to go.

[1:40:51] Just to get some clarity.

[1:40:52] Yes.

[1:40:52] Thank you.

[1:40:54] All right.

[1:40:55] Any other discussion?

[1:41:00] Sure.

[1:41:02] Sure.

[1:41:02] And the bars that need to be removed.

[1:41:06] We've already started removing those bars, right?

[1:41:08] Yes.

[1:41:09] Yes.

[1:41:09] Okay.

[1:41:10] Thank you.

[1:41:11] I want to talk of those.

[1:41:12] I've only seen a couple there.

[1:41:14] We put a few in the middle of our chairs.

[1:41:17] All right.

[1:41:20] Any other discussion?

[1:41:23] All those of every say aye.

[1:41:24] I suppose say nay.

[1:41:26] Motion passes five zero.

[1:41:28] Let's move on to item number 12.

[1:41:30] Item number 12.

[1:41:31] Final real item.

[1:41:33] Approval to purchase one ADA vehicle for the city of Greenbull on the transit division.

[1:41:37] Turn it back over to Mr. David.

[1:41:40] Thank you.

[1:41:41] All right, request to purchase one.

[1:41:43] ADA peritransit van.

[1:41:44] System be a van match in the hot hot van that we saw.

[1:41:47] Council previously approved the purchase of three back in February.

[1:41:50] this would be adding another ADA ban. So, cost of that ban $123,370, $1.76, funding will

[1:41:59] come from 85 percent from our FDA funding, 15 percent from General Fund. That's what the

[1:42:07] ban will look like. We request the council approve the purchase of one ADA accessible pair

[1:42:13] transit ban, use an FTA, and general ban.

[1:42:20] Any questions, motions?

[1:42:22] Oh, come on.

[1:42:23] All right, most of them may.

[1:42:24] But council member Jones, second by council member Rob,

[1:42:27] so any other discussion?

[1:42:29] All those in favor say aye.

[1:42:30] Aye.

[1:42:30] I suppose say nay.

[1:42:31] Motion passed by zero.

[1:42:33] Now, what everybody's been waiting for?

[1:42:34] Everybody in the audience has been waiting for.

[1:42:37] The city managers report.

[1:42:39] You know, it was going to be a long one tonight,

[1:42:40] but I will make it quick.

[1:42:42] I just want to wish from wife, happy anniversary.

[1:42:46] we will be celebrating our 34th waiting anniversary on Sunday and I can't wait to have a nice

[1:42:51] quiet meal together at Taco Bell. Hi, has anybody nominated her as a saint yet?

[1:42:59] St. Pam. St. Pam. 34 years? Yeah, Mexican notes. Yeah, huge.

[1:43:05] My hand. Holy cow back. She likes punishment, doesn't she? Yes. We will be enjoying our

[1:43:11] Joe Bill Grande, what's the drink that they have?

[1:43:17] They've got like orange drink or something.

[1:43:18] Baha blast or something?

[1:43:20] Get her a bite.

[1:43:21] Get her a Baha blast to go with that.

[1:43:22] That's right.

[1:43:23] Free refills.

[1:43:27] That's all that.

[1:43:28] May we're going to sound a quick.

[1:43:30] All right.

[1:43:31] Our city.

[1:43:31] City Attorney's Report.

[1:43:32] Quickly Mayor and council shout out to Mr. Scott.

[1:43:35] And he's going to, he was re-appointed to serve on the North Carolina legal

[1:43:39] municipalities legislative policy committee, so shout out to Scott for that.

[1:43:44] Congratulations, Scott.

[1:43:49] All right, maybe this might be the most anticipated comment of the nine.

[1:43:55] Our city clerk's report.

[1:43:57] I'm going to keep this really short. Happy birthday to my baby sister, Franny. She's 38, but still

[1:44:01] I need to meet my name, Mr.

[1:44:03] Oh, okay. Happy birthday.

[1:44:06] That's awesome.

[1:44:08] Where are we going? Are we going to start tonight?

[1:44:11] Okay.

[1:44:11] I'm here. I rehearse this earlier. I have no comment.

[1:44:17] Just congratulations to our three teams that we recognized earlier,

[1:44:21] and everybody had a great rest of your week.

[1:44:23] Awesome.

[1:44:24] Councillor Willes.

[1:44:25] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:44:27] I attended the Chamber of Commerce

[1:44:29] is leadership conference earlier today.

[1:44:33] That was wonderful to see all the ladies come together.

[1:44:36] It was very empowering.

[1:44:37] So Kudos, then they do such good work.

[1:44:39] And so it was a wonderful event to attend.

[1:44:42] And I'll pray for a safe school year for all of the teachers

[1:44:47] and administrators and students going back to school

[1:44:50] with big county schools.

[1:44:52] And I think that's all I have, Mayor.

[1:44:53] Thank you.

[1:44:54] All right, thank you very much.

[1:44:55] Councillor Robinson, you just want to echo the comments

[1:44:58] earlier, the first congratulations to Glenn.

[1:45:00] We're voting for servants for three decades. That's amazing. Congratulations to those three teams. I mean, I really hear the lady's form of just incredible players and coaches. I appreciate you volunteering your time and being a role model for these kids. It means more than you probably ever know in your lifetime, but they'll carry those lessons forward with them. And if you're watching and you have a team that's doing well, please let us know so we can have them down here at City Hall.

[1:45:26] Let's see, also, thank you to everybody and staff and Valerie for a smiley mug of flowers.

[1:45:34] And a gift certificate out of all, I mean, because that first two weeks I was not smiling at the neaver placement.

[1:45:39] And I looked up and my wife put her right in front of me and says, it's just to do what the cup said and smile.

[1:45:44] And so thank y'all for doing that because I was not smiling at first two weeks, but thank y'all for thanking me during that time.

[1:45:53] All right, from there, for a ten form.

[1:45:57] I will mirror the comments that were made in Elvedic and the team that were here.

[1:46:02] And the many teams that we have in this city on all sides that are functioning in excellence

[1:46:07] and putting their hard work to make these accomplishments.

[1:46:11] That's all.

[1:46:12] All right.

[1:46:14] I echo what everyone else said.

[1:46:15] Now I need a motion to adjourn.

[1:46:17] Don't judge her.

[1:46:18] Thank you.

[1:46:19] I'm Lucien Femade, but I can't let me rob some second-by-mirror pro-tenum.

[1:46:22] Formant all those of you who say aye?

[1:46:24] I suppose say nay.

[1:46:25] Thank you, Pamela Scott.

[1:46:26] We are adjourned.

City Council - Aug 13th, 2026

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