[0:00] Welcome everybody to the Wednesday, August 26th, or not September 9th, meeting of the

[0:06] Talgette and Planning Board. Please note the exit, case they're needed. Our first business

[0:10] evening is approval of the August 26th, minutes. Can I have a motion?

[0:15] So moved. Thank you, Lord, I have a second.

[0:18] Second, thank you, Darrell. I'd be further discussion on the minutes and roll call

[0:22] Chris, in favor, Laura, in favor?

[0:24] In favor?

[0:25] In favor?

[0:25] Not in favor.

[0:26] And the chair is in favor.

[0:28] Or at first and only application this evening is a cycling review.

[0:32] So she has the special use for medical contracting yard.

[0:35] 634 in the air state route 146 microclucosio.

[0:39] Applicants both need to structure each 12,000 square foot.

[0:42] One story building is 7.3 acres.

[0:48] Yeah, this is the first time their planning board will be reviewing the cycling.

[0:52] just to some background for the board and the members present this evening.

[0:58] For special use permits, the planning board's role is just to conduct a review of the

[1:03] site plan and to provide comments to the zoning board.

[1:08] The zoning board is the agency that will be reviewing the environmental aspects of the project

[1:14] and considering approval of the special use permit.

[1:18] So I just wanted to make that distinction and clarification in terms of what this board will be doing.

[1:26] This is a new application.

[1:30] There was a previously proposed contractors yard at this site in 2025.

[1:36] There was a different design engineer at that time as well.

[1:40] That application was withdrawn.

[1:41] We now have a new application for the same use, a new design engineer.

[1:49] I did discuss in the memo to the board.

[1:54] The changes that were made in this plan versus the 2025 plan.

[2:00] Notably, there is a proposed easement off-site for the driveway.

[2:10] The way out of the buildings has changed, there were some wetlands that were delineated

[2:16] in the 2025 plan, that should be included on this plan.

[2:20] We can get into some of those discussion points, but I first wanted to turn it over to

[2:25] Luigi Polesci from ABD engineers.

[2:29] They are the design engineer on this application.

[2:33] Thank you, Ken.

[2:34] Good evening.

[2:35] So yeah, as Ken mentioned, the Luigi Plus, with ABD engineers and surveyors, representatives in the applicant, Michael Falkusio, Michael Falkusio owns this property located here at 634, 146, it's a 7.27 acre parcel, it's zoned RA3, what he's looking to propose is a contractor yard which as Ken mentioned is an allowed use by a special use permit.

[3:05] As we laid it out, we're proposing a single curb cut off of 146.

[3:11] Ingress Andy Griss Heemleek.

[3:13] Ingress Andy Griss up on the, or that be the westerly end of the site, coming into the site

[3:22] and having a parking lot, and three proposed 12,000 square foot buildings.

[3:29] The way we've situated the buildings are along Route 146, which will help create a buffer

[3:36] on 146 and keeping all the parking and overhead doors on the opposite side of the street.

[3:46] As well as the overhead doors and parking that you see, we're also proposing some outdoor

[3:51] storage because a lot of these facilities, when they're contractor yards, you typically see

[4:00] outdoor storage with that.

[4:02] These contractors are your typical small tradesmen that may have some trailers and they

[4:07] need to park trailers out back on the outdoor storage areas.

[4:14] Utilities on site, we have access to water, as Ken mentioned, the property to the south,

[4:21] Mr. Fukuzio also owns that fronts out onto Weaver Street.

[4:26] There's public water on Weaver Street and back when there was a residential subdivision.

[4:31] There was an easement that was set up on this property to allow future extension of water.

[4:38] So water would be extended into this property to feed these buildings with public water.

[4:45] Obviously, no sewers, so we're proposing a septic system for three of the buildings.

[4:53] As mentioned in an narrative, you know, these contractor buildings will have bathrooms within it.

[5:00] So we need septic systems.

[5:02] The septic system will be designed for New York State Department of Health standards.

[5:07] And that's situated in the green space between the buildings and the road itself.

[5:15] To help soften the building landscape, we are proposing new ever green trees along the right of way.

[5:24] And that helps soften the alignment of where we have the buildings as you travel 146.

[5:32] And if you looked at the building architecture, this is a building that Mr. Fukuzu has already constructed in Rotterdam.

[5:41] And on the back side of these buildings facing 146 have some architectural features, so that it's not just a long-blank wall.

[5:50] It will have some windows that are actually having an author-fake.

[5:57] The real windows to actually allow natural light in,

[6:01] but also break up the facade of the building

[6:05] as you're traveling the 146 corridor.

[6:08] And the style of the buildings will have two colors to it

[6:13] as well, so it's not just one blank wall.

[6:16] And I believe those renderings are there

[6:18] that we can look at later.

[6:20] Back to the site plan features, we do understand that

[6:25] the easterly side, we have the black creek, and we are complying with the 100-foot set

[6:31] back from the black creek to any structure.

[6:36] As far as the storm water goes, everything

[6:39] does naturally drain to the black creek and what we're proposing are several storm water

[6:44] management areas along the easterly side and southern east side of the property, which

[6:49] will collect any of the rooftop water, parking lot water, and outdoor storage area, which

[6:57] will come into our proposed storm water management areas that need to meet near-state DEC requirements.

[7:05] Those will incorporate green infrastructure techniques, or likely proposing a what they

[7:12] bio-retention system, which has further filtering media, mulch plantings, so that as the storm

[7:20] water runoff comes off the site, it's going to go through the treatment for the storm water

[7:26] before it gets released out to the black creek.

[7:30] After looking at some of the comments, we do understand that's a concern. And as we develop our stormwater pollution prevention plan, we'll certainly keep that into consideration.

[7:43] Lighting will be kept to a minimum. We don't like a lot of light poles. We are proposing building mounted lights in this case. Those lights will be down type LED style, so that, you know, darks the guy compliance.

[8:00] so that they're not shining up.

[8:02] They're all shining downward.

[8:07] What else?

[8:21] Yeah, and as far as comparing to a previous site plan

[8:25] that was submitted, I did get the opportunity to look

[8:28] at that today.

[8:31] And as far as the proposed buildings

[8:33] that were proposed previously, they were proposing

[8:37] well over 36,000 square feet from what we're proposing.

[8:41] I think they were up to 40, 4,000 square feet.

[8:45] So looking at this plan and the way we configured it,

[8:50] we thought this was best for our first initial phase.

[8:55] Looking at how do we buffer from the road to the activity

[9:02] where the cars are going to be parked,

[9:05] as well as keeping it away from the black creek

[9:09] away from the neighbors as well.

[9:13] Again, back to the narrative, you know, this is RA3. We are here

[9:19] for a special use permit. We know we have to go to the ZBA. But, you know, when looking at this

[9:25] surrounding neighborhood, you have Stassett's landscaping right across the street, you have Phillips

[9:30] gas station and dunking in some convenience stores just Easterly from here. So, we feel that this

[9:38] maybe a good transition from like the heavier general business district to a lighter commercial

[9:46] in an agricultural setting, which, you know, when you look at these contractor yards,

[9:54] we feel that they have very, very little intensive uses than what could potentially be

[10:01] here. There are some uses that I looked at that are allowed in RA3 that would definitely be

[10:07] more intrusive than what we're proposing here. So yeah, we're here tonight, like Ken said,

[10:15] this is our initial submission. You know, we'd love to hear your feedback. We know we got a

[10:19] little bit more to go or a lot more to go here. But, you know, this was our initial thought,

[10:24] our concept and we'd love to hear your feedback in any other concern. So we can look forward

[10:29] to move forward. So, I'll turn it back over to the planning board.

[10:37] First question, Luigi, is the wetlands that were previously

[10:41] delineated. They're not on this plan. I was, why, you know, it's like you're gonna have a significant

[10:49] wetland impact. Yeah, my, you know, so that's a concern of ours. I'm not sure why they're

[10:55] not on this plan since it's already been delineated. They may need to be redone. Yeah, and that's

[11:00] going to get that. So we do know that we have to get out there and get a wetland biologist to

[11:05] read delineate these as you know in January 25 and March and whatnot, you know, the wetlands

[11:13] rules have changed. So, you know, we need to look at that. Now the state rules, the state

[11:18] states, the state rules, the state rules, the state rules, the state rules, the state rules. Yeah,

[11:19] under the current court, this goes before the state. Yeah, under the current court, right. Yeah,

[11:24] near is wetland. But yeah, we acknowledge that and we know we have to get a wetland biologist out

[11:29] the site because that's a I think a concern of ours is to try to limit any impacts on the

[11:35] wetlands and in the larger this complex becomes the bigger the impacts on the wetlands,

[11:42] the larger the larger the storage area becomes the larger you know if then you have certainly

[11:49] you know we would make a recommendation you know ultimately it's only board it's going to decide

[11:56] I would certainly keep wetland impacts to a minimum.

[12:00] That's a really close goal.

[12:01] And I'm guessing the way you're showing this now,

[12:05] you're over a tenth of an acre of wetland impacts here.

[12:09] Yeah, I really don't know where the wetlands are.

[12:11] I did walk this property in it to me and start to get wet

[12:14] as you got closer to Black Creek.

[12:16] There's a natural swell right in through here.

[12:19] OK.

[12:19] So you don't have the coverage that the previous consultant came up with.

[12:24] Yeah, your applicant didn't provide you that.

[12:26] I do see that.

[12:28] I do see that.

[12:29] Right.

[12:29] Yeah.

[12:30] Kind of loaded it on the web here and I pulled all the documents off of that.

[12:35] So yeah, we know we have to, you know, further the wetland study.

[12:39] I think, you know, just the size of it, you know, you're seeking a substantial area of variance.

[12:45] Setback variance, you know, which further increases the impacts on wetlands and storm water

[12:53] potential, water quality impacts, you know, this board while we don't

[12:57] open on variances, you might get something from this board that would say

[13:03] we'd rather you have a design that needs no area variance. Same thing with the

[13:12] the easement on to the residential property, you know, to me it seems like

[13:16] you're squeezing the orange pretty hard here, Luigi, and I'll try and

[13:20] get 36,000 square feet of structure on this parcel that isn't quite large enough to do it.

[13:31] So obviously if you read Kent's memo, this board is probably tabling this application

[13:37] obviously until we get further information, but that's another concern too, you're utilizing

[13:43] the joining, I was thinking myself, why doesn't he just, he's still owns it, why doesn't

[13:47] just modified a lot of lines, oh, it's already at the minimum three acres. You can't make

[13:53] that lot any smaller. So, you know what I'm getting at is really squeezing a lot in here,

[13:59] you know, if it was me, I'd be like, well, ship the driveway down, lose a building and call

[14:05] it a day and see what, you know, reduce the impacts on the wetlands, reduce the, you know,

[14:16] management, the size of the, that's very size of the, I guess you would reduce your storage

[14:22] lot by at least a third probably if you. But so I mean that's our concern. It seems like

[14:27] there's a lot being squeezed on here, you know, in any area of variance is, you know, you need

[14:34] to utilize an adjoining piece of property for an access easement. So I guess it's tough to get

[14:41] It's too far down the line here without, okay, where are you with your wetlands and packs,

[14:48] so on, you know, because I think this board would recommend that you certainly don't get

[14:55] into an individual permit, because I mean, that's your right, that's your right to try.

[15:00] I don't know what this is on board of appeals would say. Obviously, this is a permitted use, it's permitted, you know, it's an allowed use in this district. So some form of this use would move forward. It's just how big, how's it size, you know, I'm sure the one to limit the impacts on potential impacts to the water quality, et cetera. So that if you read Ken's memo, I mean, you know, I don't know.

[15:31] know,

[15:34] I could say the wetlands impact it's just seemed I didn't do a quick overlay, but it seemed

[15:39] like you, you know, you were certainly well over a tenth of an acre. Look that way. Now obviously

[15:43] you have to remap them. Yeah, we don't know where the wetlands are. You know, the reason why we put

[15:50] the building where we put it close to, you know, the other property that Mr. Fukuzio owns, you know,

[15:55] obviously both of those properties are zone the same. So if you have a building, the line is really

[16:01] imaginary because, you know, you could put the building, you could put the building on either

[16:06] of those properties.

[16:07] It's imaginary in a way, but not, I mean, you know, because it's basically the subdivision

[16:14] itself, you know, you stuff every piece of property that it could.

[16:18] You've got the three acres there, the bare minimum.

[16:20] If you wanted to do something this large in the future, maybe you should have saved some

[16:27] more property.

[16:28] But I realize you want to get the number of lots you want to get in there now. You got to use one of the lots to do the development on this part

[16:35] So because this part is not big enough to handle a little by itself

[16:39] The use you want to do and then that leads to potentially further impacts

[16:45] So that's just you know once again. I don't know you know that with

[16:50] And typically probably be our site plan recommendations, you know, would be to try to avoid

[16:56] the variances, avoid the encroachment onto the joining residential property, limit the

[17:05] the wet land impacts that I'd like, you know, be nice to have no wet land impacts, but

[17:09] I'm assuming you're going to have some that can hold up the previous still in the age.

[17:16] So this is the 2025 plan, so this shows the wetland area, which are these grayer hashmarked areas.

[17:24] So this is the area of the ingressy grass easement on the adjacent residential property.

[17:32] So I think there'd be impacts here.

[17:35] The highlighted orange area is the tenth of an acre impacts with their previous

[17:40] the middle, can use the middle. So this area are wetlands and then this area is wetlands.

[17:46] Plus the driveway entrance is wetland.

[17:49] Yeah. So the proposed wetland, I don't know what would be ultimately determined.

[17:55] So the proposed parking lot, I believe, comes back through this area when you look at it.

[18:02] So I think you're going to have definitely more than a tenth of an acre with these impacts,

[18:06] these impacts of potentially over here as well.

[18:10] We do so that kicks you into either the fee in lieu, wetland mitigation,

[18:17] more thorough review by Army Corps, just something to consider.

[18:21] Yeah, understood.

[18:22] We know we have to go through this process.

[18:25] Those wetlands could also be isolated, right?

[18:28] I mean, we don't know until we get a biologist out there.

[18:31] I don't know who did it before.

[18:32] But it was previously mapped and that was brought to this board.

[18:35] that license engineer as this is the wet land boundary, understood. So, you know, I can only assume it's going to be quite similar,

[18:49] but I don't know if there was ever in the file, I don't know if there ever was a JD letter or anything and I didn't think it got that far.

[19:00] There's been some issues raised, the potential historical impact stuff.

[19:06] So we would want to see a, of course, bondage from Shippo.

[19:11] Yeah.

[19:11] So we did something.

[19:12] Yes.

[19:13] And that automatically triggered that it was not an archeological, but I did read Ken's memo

[19:18] and, you know, a lot to look further into that.

[19:20] Yeah, no.

[19:21] I think I now talk to Ken.

[19:22] I don't know whether who submits the Chris on that, whether the town would submit it

[19:27] whether you would submit that, you know, that's something we can have a discussion about.

[19:34] Shippedo's Chris system really doesn't, it's not a catch all or everything, so just because

[19:40] there's not a check mark that gets generated from the EAF map for doesn't mean necessarily

[19:46] that there isn't something there that could be of significance. Based on the information that

[19:52] was provided, the historical context of it.

[19:55] I think it does rise to the level of, I would say,

[19:59] that the applicant should admit the application to Shippo.

[20:04] As you know, the first step is just their literature review,

[20:07] the phase one A, Shippo will then make a determination

[20:10] whether you need to do a phase one B in the shuttle fence.

[20:13] I think with that information, we'll have to provide it.

[20:16] So we'd be looking this board, obviously,

[20:19] as Ken said earlier, on the zoning board of appeals,

[20:21] So it's going to be the main body with this project.

[20:24] But before this board makes any recommendations on the site plan and design, and anything

[20:29] moving forward, we'd want a response from Chip Ball, we'd want the wetlands fully delineated.

[20:36] I guess I'll talk to the town engineer as far as stormwater, how far long that has to be,

[20:41] or has to get, but because ultimately we may make our recommendation on the site plan and

[20:49] BBA may or may not follow those recommendations, you know, let's get up to them.

[20:57] But I think generally we try to reduce the amount of potential impacts.

[21:05] So a little concerned about, you know, the amount of wet land impact, the variants

[21:12] is that I needed to fit the buildings in and the encroach went down to the residential property.

[21:20] I'll be it didn't tap against the loans that property, but to me it seems to indicate that

[21:27] we're kind of pushing the site pretty hard to get what you want to get in there, but I don't

[21:39] I mean, yeah, on the easement area, first I was going to wonder why you didn't just convey the land to this parcel, but I see why you're not because you're only three acres, so if you convey the land, you need a variance on that parcel,

[21:55] whereas here you need the variance for the rear setback, it kind of does seem out of place, you know.

[22:03] On the historic and archeology concert, you did the residential for Walden.

[22:10] This was part of the subdivision.

[22:12] Did you do consultation then?

[22:14] Yeah, we did.

[22:15] We did the shovel test and all that.

[22:17] I believe it was all good.

[22:19] Okay.

[22:19] So you may have the data documentation there, but the archeology may be addressable, but certainly

[22:28] the wetlands.

[22:29] This is kind of...

[22:30] Hard to review this plan without those wetlands, you know, to know whether or not it's a more of an impact than it really needs to be.

[22:40] There also is a floodplain. Now, it doesn't impact the huge amount of the property, but it may have some impact on those stormwater ponds, you know, if the sides and the berms of the stormwater need to have like fill going down the slope,

[22:56] You may be into that floodplain limit, so you may want to look into that, it's kind of a, it just into the property a little bit.

[23:05] May impact that gravel area, you know, significant.

[23:13] And no landscape, I know this is very early on in the project, but no landscape screening to the rear,

[23:20] it sounds like if you're putting in your stormwater management there, you're going to be clearing any trees or any woods that would be there.

[23:27] It's, you know, we'd probably be looking for, if it's not natural vegetation that's going

[23:33] to remain, you know, what do your plants for potentially screening, you know, and

[23:39] it's probably not propering a site.

[23:41] I don't have access down on the ways.

[23:44] I'm the southerly property line.

[23:46] I just didn't know, when you get into your stormwater management, you're going to be clearing

[23:49] those areas, right?

[23:51] Yeah, it's potentially correct.

[23:53] Yeah.

[23:54] So depending on exactly the footprint of the stormwater, we would be

[23:57] clearing, probably up to the property line, or possibly even a buffer, we could look

[24:02] at that as we further detail the design.

[24:07] Yeah, you'd want to screen all that for those back properties, like when just leave it

[24:13] open to be looking at a parking area and equipment that's just there.

[24:19] And then in the front, that's like a sound tunnel.

[24:23] When you come down that part of the road, the sound is almost unbearable.

[24:27] It's the weirdest thing having walked that property before, and that you're proposing six trees.

[24:38] Anything that could disrupt the way the sound comes off the highway would be strongly recommended.

[24:47] Like, what's the length that you have right now of frontage? How many feet is that?

[24:54] six hundred.

[24:58] It's over six hundred. Yes, and you have six trees and the, you know, maybe

[25:07] in a hundred years, the tree might be 40 feet wide. That's minimal at best, and you'd want

[25:17] to at least double large trees, but I would have a mix like because it takes a long time for things to

[25:27] So, the sound is, and I imagine people that live around there, they can attest to the noise that comes down on that road.

[25:35] Yeah, and I think that's one of the thoughts why we would put the buildings.

[25:38] No, the building itself.

[25:40] That'll help.

[25:41] That'll help.

[25:42] That'll help.

[25:48] Certainly with black noise.

[25:50] Going to the back.

[25:51] Landscaping doesn't do much for noise.

[25:53] Yeah, but it does do

[25:55] Intraught visual

[25:56] Intraught wind

[25:58] But back to the landscaping

[26:00] I think we would be agreeable to

[26:03] Increasing the landscaping both in the front and the rear as we further detail is

[26:09] Yeah, we're not opposed to that

[26:12] Yeah, I mean, you know, this is a

[26:16] It's a

[26:18] Residential district, but it's an allowed special use I think that's a

[26:22] It is in a loud use, yes, but it is a special use permit, so that comes with a little bit extra

[26:31] Considerations of the use appropriately fitting, and yeah, obviously landscaping is something

[26:36] You know, and that not just on the front, but on the side as well, you know, the driveway being so far to the west

[26:44] Doesn't really leave you much to give kind of a muscle or to the cars heading eastbound

[26:49] found. And really, the residential property that you're on, the three-acre property, I guess

[26:57] the, you know, cold enforcement can take a look at this, but really, that property

[27:02] would need especially use, because you're not giving the property there, it's just an

[27:06] easement, so technically the parking lot is part of that parcel. So I think that's awkward,

[27:14] I know it's not just a side plan approval, it is especially used for me to approve.

[27:19] So, I mean, I think this board would lean towards recommending

[27:23] his stay out of that residential property.

[27:26] You avoid variances.

[27:28] Once again, I don't know what the zoning board

[27:30] of appeals is going to, you know,

[27:33] being as best used for me that it does, as Chris just said,

[27:36] some additional considerations that I think,

[27:41] at least we would make the recommendation.

[27:44] Yeah, so if you stay out of there and don't involve that parcel

[27:47] and don't involve the question of does that parcel

[27:49] the special use permit also, it would probably give you more room to either leave some buffer,

[27:57] leave some existing vegetation there that's at the edge of those wetlands, whether they're

[28:01] isolated or not, but especially for that eastbound traffic leaving out to them. That's the

[28:08] first thing you're going to see.

[28:11] Yeah, we can certainly soften the pavement. I think our initial

[28:17] thought I just squared it off but you know I have enough room to make the turn there

[28:23] from the driveway and so yeah maybe that triangular piece of pavement goes away those

[28:28] are things that you know as we do our grading and drainage plan you know we'll look at

[28:33] all of that but yeah it's a good point and right on this west side too is actually a national

[28:39] grid like sub station that but it's up to the property is coming right down there so it's

[28:44] very industrial looking at our substation right there.

[28:48] Can I make which is one more comment?

[28:52] You know, having read that even the mayor from water relief and all the concern from many

[28:56] people that live on the street are in Altsmont is that it is the black creek and that is

[29:03] our water source, like going into our water source.

[29:07] So to risk contamination because a diesel truck is being parked on some gravel seems

[29:17] It kind of like is, that's not like a trade-off, that's a good trade-off.

[29:25] You know, maybe if you're growing vegetables there, there might be a little more willingness

[29:32] to move, but to be risking to contaminate the surface of the soil that that is that close

[29:39] to the Black Creek, every concern should be really looked at and not take that risk, personally.

[29:50] That's my opinion.

[29:52] I drink that water.

[29:53] Yeah, we certainly respect a Black Creek with the storm water controls, meeting DEC requirements.

[30:00] We're going to be reviewed by town engineer. We'll certainly comply to that. We'll make sure, you know, whatever it is that comes off of this is treated with those biore attentions like that. That's one of the better treatments of a stormwater practice because, you know, you can line those so that it doesn't, you know, as it gets treated, it's not getting any groundwater, you know, it's controlled, right?

[30:25] Yeah, we've done a lot of facilities, we've done gas stations, we've done industrial parks,

[30:31] and a lot of those stormwater designs, you know, you do have to look at it a little bit

[30:35] differently.

[30:36] It's not like a stormwater practice for residential subdivision.

[30:40] So we're aware of that, you know, and we'll be cautious of it, of course, but, you know,

[30:48] Route 146, that crosses a black creek, you got Phillips gas station, gas station, that is there, you know, probably draining towards the creek too, and, you know, what we can do here, we can certainly design this to, you know, to be as best as possible for this type of use.

[31:06] So, it just, yeah, I mean it just seems like, you know, we're not going to get too far without the wet length on the A8 and response from your phone.

[31:14] But it seems maybe a little too much for the site.

[31:21] You know, to me it seems like you're saying, well maybe you can soften the turn and get it maybe.

[31:28] I don't know.

[31:28] I don't know how you keep 36,000 square feet of building there, Luigi.

[31:33] I mean maybe it just seems like because if we say, well,

[31:36] Well, if we make recreation, we feel like you really shouldn't be coming in for a substantial area of variance.

[31:43] What's all it's a hundred foot set back from the property line you're proposing about what 30 feet, so it's a substantial variance.

[31:51] So we won't, like I said, a pine on the variance, but we could say, the variance allows that much more building, which then allows that requires that much more

[32:04] Payment requires that much more storage parking lot

[32:08] Increases the impacts that much more on the wetlands and the potential impacts to the black creek

[32:14] So I think the size and the amount does start to play a role in the in the special use permit

[32:22] You know, we won't say whether they should you know

[32:25] Like I said, oh, you don't get into the variance. It's true. Other than we might say, you know

[32:30] We would recommend that no variance be needed

[32:33] And if that reduces the size, it reduces the size.

[32:38] It seems like you're trying to squeeze a lot on here.

[32:41] When you come in and you utilize an existing additional parcel

[32:46] and then you need a variance.

[32:49] I mean, it's trying to squeeze a lot on there.

[32:52] And then, of course, I can set the wetlands issues.

[32:55] That's going to dictate your design, obviously, to some degree.

[33:00] It seems to me that in and of itself I might reduce the size of what you're doing.

[33:08] Yeah, can I just jump in here?

[33:09] Yeah, so we know there's other options too.

[33:12] Like when we laid these buildings out, these are the buildings that were used in the Rotterdam facility.

[33:17] So like the shape of the buildings is what we're trying to use here.

[33:20] Keeping it up against the road and that's how we develop this, right?

[33:24] We can obviously look at different building shapes, right?

[33:29] So, you know, these are things that, you know, the applicant and I will certainly discuss,

[33:34] you know, we appreciate the feedback and, you know, I know we've got a ways to go here

[33:39] to massage this, like I said this was our first question.

[33:42] Yeah, the question is where you're coming in at the entrance that you're filling wetlands to create

[33:46] that entrance.

[33:48] At least previously mapped it, you know, to do that parking area down that swooping into the

[33:54] you're filling wetlands there, you're filling wetlands with the parking area and the additional

[34:01] outdoor storage area. So, it's, it just seems to me that he might be hard pressed to get

[34:12] this much on this site.

[34:16] But once again, we're going to wait to see what the, you know, the delineation

[34:22] You know, looks like you said it has been done previously, so the work is there, I don't know, I can't remember who did it, but

[34:32] Engels was the engineering firm, right?

[34:37] And, you know, when we would away, chip was response.

[34:40] It does, I would assume like with the subdivision there was some work done, so maybe a lot of that work has been done,

[34:47] but we would love to see what their response is.

[34:55] I think the key with the ship over response

[34:57] for the subdivision is they look at the area of potential effect.

[35:03] So at that time, the only area proposed for disturbance

[35:06] was off of Weaver Road.

[35:09] So they may have not taken a hard look at this area

[35:13] because nothing was proposed for disturbance.

[35:15] Yeah, I don't want to speak for them to submit it and see what their responses, I don't know what they ate, you know, what they can see how they can go back and look at it as they go back and look.

[35:33] Yeah, we understand, you know, we appreciate you here and us out tonight.

[35:37] And, you know, what I've been wanting to ask you is about the power lines that run in front of the site.

[35:42] Those power lines are pretty low. Have you looked at the height of those?

[35:46] And there's, there's a national grid that has a certain amount of equipment before residential cars going in and out.

[35:51] But I talk about commercial vehicles.

[35:54] And I mean, the substations down the roads.

[35:57] So I'm assuming these are pretty high power lines and distance and clearances from your equipment from those power lines.

[36:04] We'd also be concerned. You should look at it.

[36:06] We will. Yeah, there are certain requirements,

[36:10] height-wise to in order to cross underneath, you know, if the pole's got to be raised and that's

[36:15] something that you work with National Grid and you raise the poles to get the wires up.

[36:20] Yeah. Yeah. It's something that will have to be surveyed at the end of the day.

[36:24] Good thing. When I had the DEC Mapper,

[36:27] it triggered as rare plants and animals in this area. Yeah, I think it came up with the long-eared

[36:32] That's probably going to come up with that.

[36:34] Is that the one they're back?

[36:36] So then you, that trigger is a clearing sort of times a year.

[36:42] But that's my guess.

[36:44] Yeah.

[36:44] It would be the back.

[36:46] Because you have the hell of a burks and you have a hypernacular within a pretty

[36:51] Barrett close range.

[36:52] So that'll pick up in the secret real?

[36:55] It would be.

[36:56] Ultimately, a condition of approval, if the thing moves forward, that, you know, no clearing

[37:01] pace place between the, I don't know, what's the dates now?

[37:05] I don't have a date.

[37:07] Basically, for the summer months.

[37:09] The summer months.

[37:09] Never, I can't.

[37:10] Yeah.

[37:11] Now I did a good move to up to date.

[37:12] Mar, Jay, probably anything after Mar, Jay, probably after.

[37:16] So like, no, remember.

[37:17] Well, last question, your six inch water mean for bathrooms?

[37:20] Are you thinking something else?

[37:23] No, just for bathrooms.

[37:26] You know, we may have to get like, there may be a talk of extending the water.

[37:34] We're proposing six cents right now. That could change depending on the final layout.

[37:40] All of the months also reached out to us on a post we tap into this water line for the pump house, met with the mayor of all of the months.

[37:49] They would come in over Weaver as well, or they would bore in a black creek, but something that they're very interested in doing, they met a few times on site.

[37:58] So then it would be larger than six inches.

[38:01] It will, for us it wouldn't, for them it would be, but for us, that was just, you know,

[38:05] if you're coming across you might as well have more than less.

[38:14] Yeah.

[38:14] So you would need fire hydrants, right?

[38:17] At least one, right?

[38:18] Though we do.

[38:18] Yeah.

[38:18] I don't see one on the plans.

[38:21] But that's the right.

[38:21] That's something we'll have to work out with the player department.

[38:23] We have plenty of access around for vehicular and emergency maneuverability.

[38:31] And then, you know, the other thought too, you know, from other, the other facilities that

[38:36] we've designed, you know, these, these, these, buildings, you know, they're not proposed

[38:41] with loading docs, so like, I don't want people to think like, this is a main, like, heavy

[38:46] truck, generated tractor trailer in and out of here.

[38:51] They're occasionally may have a tractor trailer that comes in, and they typically just

[38:56] load to one of the tenants, and then they go right out. So I just wanted to get that clear

[39:01] that that's what, you know, the applicant from the other facilities that he currently has

[39:07] sees right now with his tenants. Like Luigi was saying earlier, like really,

[39:12] the guys that take these units are, it's a glorified storage unit, like you're getting the

[39:16] electricians, the plumbers that, you know, want a nice space with a bathroom and, you know,

[39:21] they're coming down the hill and that's where the little headquarters is, they stop in the morning,

[39:24] and they go to work, they come back, they stop, and they go home.

[39:27] That's what we've noticed.

[39:29] It's not a trucking facility.

[39:33] And the one, this is similar to what you have in Rotterdam.

[39:36] We have a few buildings.

[39:38] Yeah, quite a few of them in Rotterdam.

[39:39] Now, that's really our audience, it seems to be.

[39:42] Is that the one across from, what is it?

[39:44] The Hertz, is that built?

[39:47] The one that I remember seeing that.

[39:51] Third-extrient, first-extrient, first-extrient, first-extrient,

[39:53] Is that the joke? Is that constructed?

[39:56] It's completely built, yep.

[39:58] In occupied? Is that?

[40:01] So occupied?

[40:02] And there's actually two of those exact buildings on there.

[40:09] Yeah, and the photos that we submitted,

[40:11] the one photos of the, like, looking at the overhead doorside,

[40:17] that's actually from the Rotterdam facility.

[40:21] We didn't get a good photo shot of the side facing the road.

[40:26] Yeah, that's just a rendering so like this is the actual build that's actually not

[40:31] Rodium that's that is Rodium, but that's not the bird extreme that's that's another one in

[40:35] Consolacy we got like no numerous of these buildings now, but that is this also the exact same building

[40:41] It's the same building

[40:42] That's the rear of the building. No, that's the front of us. That's well, that depends what you call

[40:48] It's opposite of the road

[40:49] Yeah, that's inside on the black top right and then if you go to the next there's a small

[40:55] come from there. That's a rendering, and you can see same building colors, but then you've

[41:00] got the windows that are up high and the vertical features that break up that long fall.

[41:09] Yeah,

[41:09] I'm not sure why I came in as a smaller doctor. I don't like that.

[41:28] I don't know if I can do that or not. Not the best picture, but yeah. And we can provide

[41:35] actual photos, grass looks nice, nice grass.

[41:42] All right.

[41:43] So.

[41:44] Yes.

[41:44] Well, as you so.

[41:45] You can.

[41:46] Memo will be tabling this.

[41:48] This is not a public hearing.

[41:50] If someone has some brief comments, you know, they want to mention, you know, we'll

[41:55] certainly take some brief comments.

[41:57] As Ken said, the zoning board of appeals will be holding a public hearing.

[42:01] Maybe multiple public hearings.

[42:03] Sounds like these guys will be back in front of us a couple times before we make any kind

[42:09] of recommendation, but if you have a comment, the question, something will take some

[42:17] comment or question, something more.

[42:21] What's the other day?

[42:21] Well, okay.

[42:22] You approached the mic, so we picked up the minutes.

[42:26] Thank you.

[42:27] Yep.

[42:32] I just want to know the elevation from ground to peak of roof of the buildings.

[42:38] I am by around 2060.

[42:51] Any other comments?

[43:06] Hi, my name is Bill Miller, 46 year resident on Weaver Road.

[43:11] First thing I want to do is agree with Laura on the water pollution problem.

[43:17] I don't know the exact stats, but you put one core to motor oil in the ground.

[43:22] I believe it pollutes more than a couple of thousand gallons of groundwater, and for the board

[43:28] to ever approve this kind of thing without knowing who's back there, what's getting

[43:33] spilled in that ground would be a big misfortune to everybody in the town, and no matter

[43:40] how small the risk is, I don't think you could ever take it, and that's my main thing.

[43:46] The next thing I want to say is, you know, I noticed on the right up for this, it said that

[43:54] there wouldn't be an impact on other properties.

[43:57] Now, there's a residential house right on 146 across from this proposed development.

[44:02] That's certainly a big impact on that guy's property.

[44:06] Along with all the other houses on Weaver Road that are very close to this thing, there's

[44:11] One of the lost housing value, I don't even care if it's a thousand dollars, it's not fair

[44:17] that we're doing this applicant, a favor that he can put this in our neighborhood.

[44:23] It should no way be in this area.

[44:26] I know they call it a contractor yard, I call it an industrial park, it's gigantic, the storage

[44:34] for the vehicles.

[44:35] I counted around 120 on that map. It's totally ridiculous.

[44:41] Maybe 20 if you were going to approve it, 25.

[44:44] But why would he get 125 spaces to gigantic building?

[44:49] The buildings between the space in between them are around 720 feet.

[44:54] Just to make that clear if you look at the plan.

[44:56] It's obvious there's 20, 220 foot spaces and there are 230.

[45:00] So, it's like 700 and whatever fee. And when I first saw the plan, I couldn't even believe it. I was like, is this for real? Did somebody even ask to do this project? But, you know, then I was told anybody can ask for anything. And, you know, I'm not a good public speaker as you can probably tell, but I got it through all my two cents in here. And if this ever gets approved, I think it's utterly ridiculous. The Apple can's got plenty of places like this already. Why would the town, a killer, let him put another

[45:29] on an orary area, I think I said enough.

[45:40] Good evening.

[45:41] My name is Jeff Perley.

[45:42] I live at 1189 Burnout Mount Road.

[45:44] I also represent this area in the Albany County

[45:47] legislature.

[45:49] In terms of the Mr. Miller brought up the impact

[45:52] on neighboring properties, certainly.

[45:56] And he was a lot more articulate

[45:57] than you gave yourself credit for on the impact

[46:00] of the surrounding properties.

[46:01] But I would argue that if this development

[46:05] is allowed to go forward, it would impact

[46:06] every property from the Goldiland Center to Altima.

[46:10] And that's because if you drive out tonight and you look at the south side of Route 146,

[46:17] starting at the Getty Station in Goldiland Center all the way to the dentist's office in Altima,

[46:22] there is exactly one non-residential use in that entire stretch. It's almost three miles.

[46:28] Three miles, there is one non-residential use, and that's the Apple Inn, which is in an old historic

[46:35] in where the town was originated, right?

[46:39] So that area is very, very unique, right?

[46:42] The south side of 146 is entirely residential

[46:46] and entirely open space.

[46:49] The idea of having a contractors yard.

[46:51] Now at first, it struck me as odd

[46:53] that a contractors yard would be, and especially use,

[46:55] it's not an allowable use, it's a special use,

[46:57] so the criteria for special use has to be met,

[47:00] which is a, you know, not permitted use.

[47:03] It's a, you know, it is possible, that's right.

[47:07] That's how we are, you know, we can sit here and say,

[47:09] oh, we don't like this use, we're going to deny it.

[47:11] We recommend denial this use.

[47:14] We're going to apply it on the site, plan itself, you know,

[47:16] the size of the structure, the size of the parking area,

[47:20] so on and so forth.

[47:22] But it is, it's a permitted use in the zone, you know,

[47:25] so we're not, you know, we couldn't just say,

[47:27] well, we don't like it, you know.

[47:29] permitted if the criteria for the issuing of a special use permit is met, which is, you know,

[47:36] not that higher hurdle. Not that high, but one of it is that it's consistent with the master plan, right?

[47:41] And the master plan is spent a lot about protecting and buffering the unique hamlet aspects of

[47:48] of goodle and center and ultimate, right?

[47:51] And one of the things that provides that protection

[47:53] is the fact that the entire cell side of root 146

[47:57] from the Gedi and goodle and center,

[47:59] all the way to the dentist office and ultimate,

[48:00] is entirely residential and entirely open space.

[48:04] This would fundamentally change that.

[48:06] But the zoning controls, you know, I understand,

[48:08] and that's what struck me as odd that a contractor's yard

[48:11] would be even a special use within the RA3.

[48:15] When I first saw that, I'm like,

[48:17] We've brought it up that it seemed more like storage, maybe warehousing, we don't make that

[48:22] enter.

[48:22] No, I'm glad the board does not make that interpretation.

[48:26] Once that interpretation is made, our hands are tied.

[48:30] We can't say we don't like the use, but I think we have to work with the use and make our

[48:34] recommendation moving forward to mitigate any potential impact.

[48:39] And that's why, so it's a permitted use within the RA-3 district, but the RA-3 district

[48:45] is huge. So there's a lot of places where this type of use might be appropriate. I live up

[48:52] on the hill. But the Pollard family has a contractor yard off of Lisa-M Lane. It is buffered.

[48:58] It sits on, you don't even see it from Lisa-M Lane. It's not on Route 156. It's not on the main

[49:04] highway that everyone passes every single day. Mr. Wagner, who lives in that neighborhood,

[49:10] I think you might have a contractor yard. I don't know, he has a lot of heavier equipment.

[49:13] But I never see it, right?

[49:16] What he did is he actually graded and made his frontage along 146 beautiful, right?

[49:21] So I understand it, well, the first struck me is that a contractor yard would be a lot

[49:25] within the RA3.

[49:27] Obviously, the intent must have been where it is appropriate on some back roads, some side road,

[49:34] some thoroughfare that is not traveled, and is not the main entrance to our two most

[49:39] historic helmets.

[49:40] So I would say yes, I get it that it's a that it's a permitted use, but it doesn't necessarily have to be permitted in every parcel in the RA3

[49:48] We'd we would have a hard time saying no because of you know the location

[49:53] Understood, that's a zoning request. Well even I think even then they would have a hard time they could I've said we couldn't

[50:01] Look at the design look at the buff ring look at the screening

[50:05] But it's a loud, it's permitted.

[50:08] Now, it's permitted provided that there's not

[50:10] a negative impact on the surrounding properties,

[50:12] and provided it's consistent with the master plan.

[50:15] And I would argue that this type of use is key consistent.

[50:18] In case a lot of a thousand times, we just went through

[50:20] when people argued, you know, Costco wasn't appropriate.

[50:24] You know, it was a permitted choice, you know,

[50:28] in the zoning, and it's a loud, and, you know,

[50:31] If the zoning allows it, it's, you know, the zoning allows it if it's consistent with the master plan.

[50:37] But even if that, we really aren't the ones understood.

[50:41] Our board, it's really the ZBA.

[50:43] Understood.

[50:43] Who will review the criteria for meeting that special?

[50:47] So I understand you feel that the hurdle might actually be higher and that certain aesthetics should be met.

[50:56] So, but it would be the ZBA to go through those criteria.

[50:58] So, and I get where you're coming from as far as contractors yard, it was probably there

[51:05] from history because somebody had a business and put their backos and dump trucks in their

[51:11] backyard and contractors yard was kind of an accessory, it's a layering thing.

[51:15] This is different, possibly, but it's an argument really for the ZBA as far as those

[51:20] doesn't meet the merits and the definition.

[51:24] And I appreciate the differential between the zoning board and the planning board.

[51:28] And this is my last comment I would, in terms of a planning perspective, in terms of the master plan,

[51:34] I would urge you to please protect and acknowledge that specialness of the south side of U146.

[51:43] And you don't even think about it until you actually, actually today I wrote by it, I'm like, wow,

[51:48] there is from on the south side the only commercial use is the apple in right so that that is

[51:57] something that is very very unique very very special and something worthy of protection and

[52:03] and kind of a common on what you said because I thought it was really important that the the

[52:08] screening I was talking a little bit about like six trees just doesn't cut it and what you're

[52:14] Learning out is how important it would be if it is something that is owning a cruise that

[52:22] it could be better screened.

[52:24] There is plenty of space that all depends on how big the buildings are that you could make

[52:28] it disappear.

[52:30] You could. Yes. And you know, the principal, the master plan goes to great length, right? The, the specialness of the hamlet of gildal incentive, the specialness of the, of the village of altumont, right? Is a function of what surrounds it, right? It's not just what's in altumont or just what's in gildal incentive. It's how you approach both of those places, right? And you upload approach both of those densely designed places after coming through,

[53:00] area of extensive open space, right?

[53:04] This will change that and not for the better.

[53:08] Thank you.

[53:14] So, can you need a motion today?

[53:17] Just one more thing though.

[53:18] Just going back to the aesthetics.

[53:20] And I know you built these buildings before,

[53:22] and they're just black and kind of industrial looking.

[53:26] I think you need to go back and look at the architectural design of these.

[53:29] And look at saying, hey, can we make these more agricultural looking?

[53:33] Maybe more barn horse barn looking and some kind of facetism said pick up elements of a barn structure and not just these

[53:42] Metal brought these black dark buildings

[53:46] So I'd like to see that next time you come back in

[53:49] Especially since it's the rear of the building, you know and you don't have the front entrance

[53:55] So you know that makes a difference. Yeah, and I said there's windows here, but I think you make a look more agricultural and that fits in

[54:03] You might get a better response.

[54:08] My name is Dave Burke.

[54:10] I've been a resident of Gildelund for over 60 years.

[54:13] A resident of Altamon for over 30 years.

[54:16] But I'm also the president of the Stork Altamon.

[54:19] And I'm here tonight to speak on their behalf.

[54:23] Stork Altamon was established in 2018

[54:25] to promote and preserve the historical, cultural, and scenic beauty

[54:29] of the Altamon and Helldeburg area.

[54:32] The historic ultimate and the Mohawk Hudson Land Conservancy are working together to establish a greenway

[54:39] of protected land around Altamont.

[54:42] The viewshed of the Heldibergis Cartman, which provides this vital backdrop to Altamont,

[54:48] is a critical element of this greenway.

[54:51] The proposed contractor yard is within the greenway area that historic Altamont hopes to see protected.

[54:58] As one approaches Altamond and the Health of the Burgers Department, on Route 146, the existing view is a bucolic, green space and rolling terrain.

[55:09] These views welcome you to a very, very unique part of Gildelund.

[55:15] These special views first occur at the proposed contractor yard location.

[55:21] The new town of Gildelund Comprehensive Plan strongly states the importance of the

[55:28] Heldibern Viewshed and sites it as a factor to consider in potential development of lands

[55:35] in southwest Gildelund.

[55:37] In fact, historic Alchemond was asked by the town of Gildelund again to provide a letter

[55:43] of support for the town's efforts to develop a conservation overlay zoning district, to

[55:49] identified crucial view-sheds of the held-over discartment.

[55:54] This is an effort that historic ultimate strongly supports,

[55:57] and we gladly provided that letter of endorsement.

[56:01] This contractor Yark proposal would be within that conservation

[56:04] overlay district.

[56:07] The Albany County legislature also

[56:10] recognizes the significance of the held-over view-shed.

[56:13] Their resolution, number 384, in 2020, requested Albany County Planning Board pay particular

[56:21] attention to viewsheds and important views that pertain to the Heldibergis government

[56:26] and to consider the adverse impacts upon these views.

[56:31] So the public opinion is clear, and both the town and county agree, the Heldiberg

[56:36] U.S. are of great economic, historic, and cultural importance, and they need to be protected.

[56:44] I will add that this area is so unique that that's your park has been designated as a

[56:52] national natural landmark by the U.S. National Park Service, acknowledging that Southwest

[56:58] Gildelund is a special place and very deserving of protection. It is also important to note

[57:04] The proposed contractor yard site has also been identified by local historians as the burial place of American Revolution era of soldiers.

[57:14] Guildalins historical contributions to the Revolution should be promoted, not paved over.

[57:21] This proposed contractor yard would forever alter and diminish an important piece of the Hilbert Viewshed with large steel buildings, heavy equipment,

[57:29] and site conditions that are not compatible with the existing locations, scenic beauty.

[57:34] The planning board is clear that the proposal before you is not compatible with the town

[57:40] of Guildoo or Albany County's planting, planting goals.

[57:45] Historic ultimate strongly urges the Guildoo and Planning Board to consider the surrounding

[57:49] rural landscape and the historical grave sites when making your decision.

[57:54] Please help us protect this last remaining rural area of Guildoo and I thank you.

[58:12] Hi. My name is Colin Uniman. I previously submitted a letter to the public comment, which is up there, but I just wanted to point out a couple of concerns that I have.

[58:21] I know we touched on the environmental stuff and everybody's concerned about, you know, the appearance from 146, but my home is essentially at the end of this water.

[58:31] We said, right here, north facing, we live up 4-3-3-O-Ever row, and I also want 4-3-4-3-4-Ever

[58:38] row, which we rent out to our tenant.

[58:42] Essentially, this is my front yard.

[58:44] This is what I will be waking up and looking out to every single day.

[58:48] We kind of set up on a hill that looks down on this piece of property.

[58:52] And originally, when Mr. Fukuzi came in, he wanted to subdivide the division and put

[58:59] homes in there. We were all kind of like, oh, you know, really. But the more I thought about it,

[59:04] I thought that was a great idea. He had sold off the one lot down this way to the carotties,

[59:09] and they built a beautiful home on that lot. And I said, you know what, if they're going to put

[59:14] more homes like that, that's, that's great. We love our neighborhood. We love the people. We love

[59:18] kids. We like new neighbors and people coming in. This, in my opinion, is an eye sore. I'm not sure

[59:27] for a familiar with like the 146 158 weaver road intersection, but traffic right there on a normal

[59:37] given day is a nightmare. People coming in to get on the center to drop their kids to school,

[59:43] school buses, the gas station, people coming off of 148 or 158. A lot of times we noticed that weaver

[59:50] road is used as a cut-through. They come off of 146. They cut down weaver road. They bypass the

[59:57] 58 in our section and they keep going.

[59:59] Expression.

[1:00:00] Currently during the school year, peak times 7 and 9, 3 and 5. It's insane, the traffic that happens there.

[1:00:10] My concern is that if you're going to add a contractor yard here with contractors that are coming and going at those same periods of time, the increase in traffic is just going to be insane.

[1:00:22] and it's going to increase the people that are cutting through, we've erode to avoid that intersection.

[1:00:28] And in all reality, it's dangerous. Cars come flying down our road. At that point,

[1:00:34] we have children, we have animals, we walk. There are no sidewalks. It is just a strip of road.

[1:00:40] There are no lines on our road. Normally, the people that usually travel are residents, but during

[1:00:47] the school year and during, like I said, the peak travel times, it's used as a cut-through.

[1:00:51] And if we're going to add, I don't know how many bays or how many contractors or how many people he intends to rent this out to, but it's going to increase the traffic significantly.

[1:01:02] I'm also concerned with the lighting. Like I said, our house sits up on a hill. I look out my front window. This is what I'm going to see where there will be lights on 24 hours a day, because that's going to impact, you know, my property and what I look at every single day.

[1:01:19] I'm also concerned with the sound.

[1:01:21] You know, you're going to be renting two

[1:01:23] Carpenters, electricians

[1:01:25] Who's to say that a Carpenter isn't going to be working in their late one night?

[1:01:29] You know, we come from a blue collar family. My husband's a landscaper.

[1:01:32] Sometimes he works late at night.

[1:01:34] So, you know, who's to say that a Comforter is not going to come back from a job at

[1:01:37] 5, 6, 7 o'clock at night and want to do some work in his shop.

[1:01:41] So, now I'm going to listen to saws all night long

[1:01:44] Or, you know, vehicles moving around

[1:01:48] I also would like to know if there's going to be any, like, regulations as to who is renting

[1:01:55] these places.

[1:01:56] Like, you know, we're talking about parking a truck in the parking lot, but, you know, contractors

[1:02:01] have tractors.

[1:02:02] They have excavators.

[1:02:03] They have backels.

[1:02:04] They have all kinds of equipment that they're going to be parking in these parking lots that

[1:02:09] are just going to be leaking fluids.

[1:02:12] They're going to be making noise every time you fire up one of those pieces of equipment.

[1:02:17] You know, like, it just, it doesn't make sense to me that anybody would think that this was a good place for something like this.

[1:02:27] I understand the contract you are. I understand it. It's a great concept.

[1:02:30] I think that it's necessary for blue collar workers, but I just don't think that this is an appropriate location for something like that.

[1:02:39] So unless there's going to be some sort of like regulations put in place as to who gets to rent here and what they get to do

[1:02:47] and the hours they get to operate I just don't I don't see it as a good idea and I just wanted

[1:02:52] to put that on record and like I said I already submitted a letter but I just wanted to speak

[1:02:56] my piece and I think I speak for all of my neighbors on Weaver Road. Every single person that

[1:03:01] resides in that area nobody supports this. Nobody wants this at all. I'd also like to mention

[1:03:09] that that beautiful house that built was just sold within the past I think maybe two or three months

[1:03:15] And I don't think that that person that's to paid $1.25 million dollars for that home has any idea that this is going to be in their backyard.

[1:03:24] And that to me is a very, very big interest for that person. Thank you.

[1:03:30] All right.

[1:03:36] So we'll table this can.

[1:03:41] Okay.

[1:03:42] You have some other, because I don't want, we seem to be arguing the use and it's something...

[1:03:51] I'll be brief. I support all the concerns that have just been expressed between what are quality.

[1:04:05] These folks live in a neighborhood which are comprehensive plain as less than a year old.

[1:04:10] Their neighborhood deserves to be protected as well.

[1:04:14] So, I'm going to give Ken seven pages here of petition with signatures and the last page

[1:04:24] seven is actually blank.

[1:04:26] So, we're going to share this as well with you.

[1:04:32] We'll send a copy also to the ZBA because they're going to be making the final decision

[1:04:38] here and also to the Albany County Planning Board.

[1:04:41] So, soon, the blank page in the back will no longer be blank, so we're going to continue getting more signatures.

[1:05:02] Just table, you don't need a motion to table, right?

[1:05:04] No.

[1:05:04] No motion to table.

[1:05:07] So, will you do you get an idea of what we're looking for?

[1:05:10] Yes, thank you.

[1:05:12] So, we're going to need all that information for you to come back in.

[1:05:19] Like I said, I think our, you know, our comments were,

[1:05:22] The site plan, the need for variants is the approaching on the joining residential property,

[1:05:32] the size of the outdoor storage, all those things are concerns of ours regarding this

[1:05:38] site plan itself.

[1:05:41] Okay.

[1:05:43] Thank you.

[1:05:47] What is it?

[1:05:48] So it's still need a motion.

[1:05:49] So we'll table it.

[1:05:51] Correct.

[1:05:52] Next meeting is what?

[1:05:53] Two weeks.

[1:05:54] There was October night, I think.

[1:05:57] Is that there?

[1:05:57] No.

[1:05:57] No, no, no.

[1:05:59] I'm sorry.

[1:05:59] You got one.

[1:06:00] September 23rd.

[1:06:02] September 23rd.

[1:06:04] Yeah.

[1:06:05] You're way off.

[1:06:07] Yeah, it's what it's not summer hours, all right, it's not summer hours. So September 23rd. Yeah, all right. Can I get a motion to adjourn? Motion?

[1:06:17] Second. I'll second. All right. I'll favor I.

[1:06:20] Thank you so much. All right. Yeah.

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