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I didn't want us to have 800,000 .
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Right.
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All right. I am now calling to order this regularly scheduled meeting of the
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Hamburg Township Board of Trustees, set for today, Tuesday, August 18th at
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7:00 PM.
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Would everybody present please rise and join me in the pledge to the flag?
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and
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to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Thank you.
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Michael, would you once again please call the roll?
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Anybody sneak out on us?
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Looks like we're here.
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Supervisor Negri?
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Present.
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Clerk Dolan is present. Treasurer Daniels?
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Here.
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Trustee
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Carter-Sieve?
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Here.
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Trustee Hughes?
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Present.
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Trustee Menzies?
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Here.
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Trustee Miller?
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Here.
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All right. Full board.
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Thanks everyone for coming out tonight.
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First, we will have our opening call to the public, but there ain't nobody here,
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so there will be no opening call to the public.
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Moving on to our consent agenda. We have our regular meeting minutes from our board
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meeting on August 6th, our work study minutes from
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that same date, August 6th, the DPW monthly report for the month of
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July, our approved MUC minutes for July 14th,
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bills list dated today,
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and one additional bill for bills list,
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which is from Huron Lake Weed Control.
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Do I have any action on the consent agenda as posted?
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I move as presented.
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All right.
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I'll second.
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Moved by Dolan, seconded by Menzies, to approve the consent agenda as
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presented.
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Any discussion?
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All in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye. Any opposed? All right, we're good.
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We have some changes to the agenda.
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I'll make a motion that we approve tonight's agenda as published with
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three additions,
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two of them being invoices, and then a second closed
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session regarding police contract negotiations.
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The second one for property acquisitions that we-
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Oh, yeah. That one's already on there.
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Right.
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Second one for
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property acquisitions that got moved over from our 6:30 meeting.
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I'll second.
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Sorry about that.
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I'll second it.
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All right. Moved by Dolan, seconded by Miller.
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Any other changes, additions, deletions?
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All in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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All right.
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No unfinished business. Freedom River Fall Festival.
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Fourth annual.
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All right.
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Scheduled for October 17th. So
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Freedom River is requesting a permit to hang
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the end of the road banner as we've done every other year,
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beginning September 1st through the end of October.
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The township has to make the request through the Livingston County Road Commission.
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So
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that's why it's before us.
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Okay.
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Make a motion to support the recommendation to
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the county, is that correct?
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Yeah.
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For the approval of the banner for the Freedom
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River-
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Fall Fest
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... Fall Fest, sorry. Fall Fest.
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All right. I'll second that. Moved by Miller, seconded by Negri, to support the
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petition to the County Road Commission for the banner.
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Any discussion on this?
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All in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye. Any opposed?
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All right. Motion carries. Let me just add that to my calendar.
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Saturday, October 17th.
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We can just get one festival done.
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Yeah.
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You just can't get enough of it.
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I know. Yeah.
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All right. Very good.
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Next up, we have the two bills lists, bills that were added to
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tonight. The first one is the MERS invoice, which I think we all would like to
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skip, but we knew this was coming. This is the
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invoice from MERS pursuant to the
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negotiations with patrol regarding benefit
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enhancement
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for $413,000.
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Motion to pre-payment to MERS for
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$413,884.
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Second for some discussion.
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Yes.
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All right. Moved by Dolan, seconded by Miller. Discussion.
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Where's the money coming from?
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That's what we're going to discuss.
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Yeah.
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It's coded to the police fund right now.
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So
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I attached on your fourth quarter amendment that
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we already approved.
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We did these back in July.
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We are moving money out of general
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fund,
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101 general fund, into 207 police
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operations. That particular
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general ledger number is the MERS funding deficiency line
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item.
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The question is,
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are we going to
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require
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that money to be paid back to the general fund from the
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police fund once they get actual cash
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from the December tax collection?
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That's
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really what's before us.
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We have, if you don't
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require that,
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we have a policy of 125%
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funding reserves,
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undesignated reserves of 125% of the previous year's
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expenditures
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Before that, I don't have it with me.
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Does anybody have their
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budget with them?
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No.
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We have monies
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set aside, such as in this current budget year, $300,000 for
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parking lot, future parking lot repair,
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$100,000 for future-
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200,000.
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What's that?
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200,000 for the parking lot.
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Parking lot. 100,000 for elections.
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Is this the paper?
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Yeah. Yes. Did I hand that to you, or is it yours?
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No, it's mine.
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Oh. It's mine now.
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No, it isn't.
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We have approximately $500,000 in reserve funds,
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specific reserve funds, election equipment,
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regular equipment,
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vehicle purchase,
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parking lot,
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weed harvesting.
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And then that leaves us, after the 125%,
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leaves us a balance of
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just under $100,000.
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So we would, if we're not going to
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recapture these funds in December,
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we would need to eliminate
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the reserve funds of about 500,000.
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We would have to eliminate 415,000 and then less
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$97,000, or else we're violating our own policy and we'll go below the
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125.
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Mike, we knew going into this that we had that outstanding.
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This board approved it to come out of the general fund when
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we first looked at it.
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We knew we had it going in.
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How did it not get included? In fact, I believe at
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the
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strategic planning, we talked about that that was outstanding,
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as
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was the
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IRS issue,
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those monies, and those would hit the general fund. We discussed it.
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We can't now, because the police millage got passed,
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change our mind and go to them and say, "Okay.
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It was originally going to come out of the general fund, but now it's not.
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It's got to come out of the police fund."
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I strongly disagree with that. I think it needs to come
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from where we intended it to come from.
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There was a lot more involved in that, not just the police
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contract when we made that decision to go forward with that
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plan. So,
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I don't think we can change our mind now because-
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I don't recall that conversation at all.
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I went back and
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I did a little bit of research because I was-
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Yeah. Go ahead
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... taken aback at our last meeting-
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Yep
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... discussion. And actually, it was you who brought it up
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at the strategic planning and said, "We have these two
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items coming out-"
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We need to address it.
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"... general fund," when we were talking about the percentage
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that we needed to set aside. So,
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I just feel that we can't just change our mind now because the millage was
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passed.
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Well, thankfully, we have a little bit of money that we were going to transfer into
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the police budget this upcoming year that we don't need to anymore.
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Well, there was also a discussion about that, Jason.
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Now, you're getting into a second point.
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It's $555,000-
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It's $555,000
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... that we transferred.
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We transferred, and
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Nick was pretty strong on this, that that money would be a
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good cushion to
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allow us to go the 10 years.
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Mm-hmm.
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If the millage passed, having that 555 in the
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police budget would be a good cushion going into this
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next 10 years. And we discussed that as well.
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Okay. So the police is going to bring in, what is it, more than
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$800,000 than what they're budgeted for.
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Just this summer.
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The budget that's already passed is not contemplated on the millage passing.
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100%. That's correct.
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Mm-hmm.
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And if that number is correct, you are right, because it's a-
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Well, half a mil brings in $753,000.
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Okay.
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They were two and a half, less the rollback.
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I think they were at two three something.
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2.6.
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2.6, and they're now at three, so-
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That's like a-
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... six and
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a half or whatever, 0.6 and a half.
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Mm-hmm.
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Half a mil brings in 753, so somewhere north of 800,000, I would
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imagine. I don't know the exact number.
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So, but that's the way you make a 10-year
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millage work is that first year, you invest all that money.
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That's
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how come at the end of that, you have a little bit of monies
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left to do that, right? And we've been doing this for a
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long time. If you probably go back and look at all of our
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first-year millages, that's how we did that, because we budget with the
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understanding that it doesn't pass, and we know that when we collect that money in
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December, in essence, it gives us a little bit of a savings,
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right? To allow us year eight, nine, and ten to have the monies we
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need.
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That's been our past practice in this organization for the last
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20 years that I can think of.
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We knew this 400,000 was coming, and we thought it was going to
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come out of last budget year. And just reading this document you gave us, it talks
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about fourth quarter police fund.
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What is that referencing, fourth quarter,
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on the second page of that? It just says fourth quarter.
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Just make sure we're talking, that you pulled this out of this year's,
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not last year's.
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This was-
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Fourth quarter from last year.
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Fourth quarter in last fiscal year.
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Mike is-
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The board already approved this in July.
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Yeah. Okay, so isn't this
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money already earmarked somewhere?
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No, it was not journalized or dealt with because
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no invoice actually came
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So it will be journalized. We don't need to change any
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amendments. This amendment is still valid from last year.
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This invoice is from last fiscal year.
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This is going to be billed back to last fiscal year,
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journalized for last fiscal year, but in
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reality, our starting
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projected fund balance of 63027, which is
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8.13,
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is not realizing the reduction of this 415.
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So our starting projected
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less 415 changes your
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remaining fund balance.
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All right. So
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just to be clear, this invoice is dated today, so you're
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going to get them to change the invoice date to June 30th?
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No, this
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payment is from action that occurred January
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1st, 2026.
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I get it, right? That we've been asking for months for this document-
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You're right
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... so we could take care of it.
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Right.
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But I don't know how you go back to last fiscal year.
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This is invoiced. This invoice then isn't good.
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It is good. The bills list you just approved,
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a large number of those that are dated
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after June 30th are being paid. They're earmarked from
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last fiscal year.
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I know that...
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Okay.
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So the date of August 18th is not a problem?
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No, not a problem.
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If it were a problem, would MERS change the date on that invoice?
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Well, it took six months to get this one.
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I know.
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All right. So this fourth quarter budget amendment that we already did-
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Mm-hmm
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... transferred 413 and change
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from our general fund to the police fund.
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Is that what this is telling me?
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That's
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what the action was,
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but-
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But it didn't happen
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It didn't happen. It was never journalized because we were waiting for the invoice.
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We didn't know what was. Right.
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So how did the books balance at the end then?
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If there's a journal entry that says we moved-
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We haven't audited yet
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... 413, well, we moved $413,000-
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There is no journal entry yet.
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There's no journal entry.
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There was no journal entry made.
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So this document you got from, is from what?
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This second page you gave us that says that-
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This is from the board packet back in July.
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If you guys remember, we had two or
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three pages of budget amendments.
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I only attached one because it has to do with this particular invoice.
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We did all these budget amendments back in July, prepared by
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Michelle Lewis.
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If it makes you all feel comfortable,
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you seem to be questioning my knowledge here.
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I did discuss every bit of this with Michelle Lewis at
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about 5:30 this afternoon,
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and I assure you everything that I'm sharing with you was discussed in
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our conversation, and we simply have a decision to make.
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Where do you want the money to come from?
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Excuse me. We've already made the action.
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It's already a done deal. It's coming from general fund.
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Right.
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That's done.
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Are we going to insist that it's paid back in December from the police fund?
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If not, then we have a policy to address.
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Because the loss of this 413,000-
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That's going below
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... is going to set us below our policy of 125%.
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Yes.
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Given these earmarks we've already got.
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Unless we eliminate the earmarks.
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Unless we eliminate the earmarks or get the money from somewhere else.
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Or-
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Like the 525 we were going to give to the police this year.
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Well, the 555-
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555
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... 555
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is contemplated in the budget we already passed.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I believe his remaining fund balance is
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under 1,000 bucks, like 500 bucks.
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Oh, boy.
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He doesn't carry a fund balance.
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If you look at the budget that we passed, his department budget
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for the police
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with the 555 transfer-
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Mm-hmm
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... leaves
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very tight budget.
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Exactly.
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Now they're going to draw in these additional monies.
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Yes. Yep, to the tune of 800,000. Which means-
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That's it
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... even if we
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take this 413, they're still going to be 400,000 in the hole.
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Yes, they are.
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Is there any way to have them pay it back over a number of years
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and still give you enough to-
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Thank you.
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... save your reserve for the general fund issue?
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We could do that, sure.
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So the-
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We would still need to
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amend this document though, because-
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We don't because the 125%, all it
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states is Jason has to present a plan.
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That's all it states. We don't have to modify the document.
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If it's less than 125% but greater than 100%, if I remember correctly
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how we worded that-
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Mm-hmm
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... then the supervisor presents a plan-
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Correct
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... on how we're going to get back to the 125%.
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Mm-hmm.
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And over the next five years, we are going to decrease our
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spending, right, or whatever, to get us back to the
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125%.
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I'm going off of memory here. I've pulled that, but I'm pretty sure-
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Sure. Yeah
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... I'm pretty sure that's how that's worded.
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Was there a timeline?
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No, it's just a plan.
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To get back to 125? Okay.
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Because you don't want to put that on there, because if all of a sudden something
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major catastrophic happens-
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Yeah
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... right, and we've got to spend $500,000 in the police, right, that drops
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us down, how do we recover that in a year, right? That's not possible.
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So we didn't put a timeline on it. We just said-
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And unexpected catastrophic expenses are precisely why we have reserves.
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Exactly.
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That's why.
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It's why we're sitting there.
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Mm-hmm.
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I guess what I'd like to do is probably need to review the policy.
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I guess I'd really like to get the exact budget with all these
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adjustments to see where exactly what our undesignated reserves
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are across the board, if we're this tight where we need to
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be. So before I would make any decision on needing to
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be reimbursed, I guess I'd want to see hard numbers, like the factual numbers for
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each one for undesignated stuff. And then let's look at that policy, because
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I'm pretty sure it was worded between 100 and 125%, the
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supervisor just has to make a recommendation. It's not a policy change.
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We're going to follow the policy. We're going to come up with that plan, and if the
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plan that he presents after he sits down with his leadership
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team and you guys come back and say,
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"Okay, over the next 10 years, they're going to give us
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$50,000." Right? Or eight years, right?
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Make the number work or whatever, right? That's the plan.
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If that's how we want to do it.
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But-
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Or we reduce spending
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... or reduce spending or not ask for it back.
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There's different-
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In my opinion, I would only support two things.
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One, removing the line items on the
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designated reserves, parking lot, what have you, that have to be kicked down the
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road to another time, or police
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reimburse us, because it is 100% a police expense.
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Police matter.
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It was a police expense because this board made it a
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necessity to save these residents
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a decent amount of money.
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Over time.
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Over time . Right? We did this-
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But we knew it was going to be a hit right now
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... we knew we did this because every new hire that's
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in a union right now, in the future, has a fixed cost to us now.
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Mm-hmm.
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And instead of this continually being a problem, this board,
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before a few of us sat here at the table, you guys all committed just over a
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million bucks, right, into this fund to try to
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make it equal, and then come to find out we're still $400,000 short.
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That's not happening anymore.
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Joanna brought a
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reminder and clarity
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that
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all the way up until strategic planning, the board had already made the
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decision in closed session, contract negotiations on this
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IV-13. We did not discuss it then. That's why I felt it was important for
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us to remind ourselves during strategic planning,
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don't forget about this. Those bills coming due.
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We need to decide where it's coming from.
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So.
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What
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fiscal budget year is Tony really wanting to
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repave
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the parking lot?
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He has not
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identified a specific year.
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He just want us to set the money aside, because at some point in the next-
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It's going to happen
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... six or seven years, it will need to happen-
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And we'll be able-
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... based upon the deterioration.
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And we want to keep paying cash for things.
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Yes.
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Can't we, as we go through the next five
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budget cycles,
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make sure he's giving enough-
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Quite a few bucks aside
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... to get him back to where he is today?
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We can, sure. Knowing that that big expense is coming down the pipe-
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I think that's the best idea
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... yes, we will have to do that.
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And-
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The discussion that we had at strategic planning was that,
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Jason had originally recommended, or Tony or whoever,
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$100,000.
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Mm-hmm.
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And
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Jason then requested that we-
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Audible
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An additional 100 because we could afford it at the time.
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Right, that we increase it. And my question was about
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Julie's
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goals and objectives included the engineering review or plan
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or whatever. And we had just received,
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apparently, a quote for that. It was $5,000 to get that done.
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So
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that 200,000, I wouldn't want to see it all go away, but I
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think that we could push that off
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to help
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cover the costs.
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And come the end of our fiscal year, if we're just very responsible-
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Right
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... throughout the next 10 months-
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Mm-hmm
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... then if we don't do projects or they come in under budget, hopefully in
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different spots, then those extra funds, then we balance this thing back out.
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We return funds, unused funds every year.
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We return funds every year.
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Right.
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And we also budget very conservatively on our revenue side.
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Right.
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So.
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And if those apartments go through, we're going to have a lot more money, some of
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it in sewer funds, but some in water tap fees that we were not planning on having.
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That's-
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So-
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... a good source of revenue
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... I would be in support of keeping this as a status quo, that we do
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our budget transfer as initially planned, and then I'll let the
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executive team talk a little bit more about it,
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but I don't see us getting under our 125% till the end of the fiscal year
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because those reserve funds that we're going to designate.
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And then we might just have to amend that budget at that point to, if
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we budget at 300 and we only get to do 150, right?
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Those are things that we can look at then, but at this point,
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I think that those monies,
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I'm comfortable leaving where they were. So currently are.
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All right.
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Your motion, Mike, was just to pay the bill?
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Approve payment, yeah.
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Okay.
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Because nothing else is needed because we've already done this.
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Because we've already done this.
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Yep.
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We've already done it in the budget amendment.
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Yep.
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All right. Was your motion seconded, by Miller?
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Yes, I did.
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Discussion.
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So we still have time to discuss where we're-
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We got the entire fiscal year to decide.
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Yeah.
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No, seriously, we have the entire fiscal year.
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I don't want to drag it out like that, but-
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But we could,
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and it might-
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Yeah
[24:11]
... very well come towards the end.
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We might sit there-
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Right
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... and have to say, "Okay, police," and right?
[24:16]
Mm-hmm.
[24:17]
Give a little bit. Maybe it's a split. Maybe it's a 75/25, right?
[24:21]
Whatever type thing, but-
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You guys picked through that a little bit and how you're going to keep us at-
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Yeah. We'll have to-
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How you're going to keep us at 125%.
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Right?
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By removing the
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designated reserve money, eliminating the projects.
[24:36]
Right.
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They can be added on at the end of the fiscal year.
[24:38]
Sure.
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But in the meantime,
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we need to show
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staying north of 125 and that-
[24:44]
Well, that money, is it already moved on July 1?
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The
[24:50]
parking lot project, I was going to call it the Tony project, but the parking lot
[24:53]
project, are those funds already designated,
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or is that at end of the fiscal year that they become designated?
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They're designated- I think they're designated ... for the sake of our...
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For the general fund. They're designated as our
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fund. They're somewhere off in la-la land collecting interest wherever
[25:10]
Jen has them.
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That's right. They've invested.
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Lots of interest.
[25:13]
So can you bring us-
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That's my plan, by the way, is for Jen to just make more interest for us.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Can you bring a good financial report to us that
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spells out our reserves, designated, undesignated?
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Because I know for years we thought we were putting things in certain designated
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areas, and we had just found out that that wasn't actually
[25:33]
happening.
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Yes.
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Right? We were earmarking money in places, and they weren't actually getting marked
[25:38]
that way.
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The parking lot is actually a perfect example because we had put $100,000 towards
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that parking lot in previous years.
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And it's-
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Or the previous year,
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and it wasn't showing up anywhere.
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Because we weren't actually-
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Doing it
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... doing it correctly in the background.
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Now we're doing it, so yes.
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So.
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Even though last year I asked for an additional 100, that actually brings us up to
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3 because we found that 100 was there.
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We realized that we had already earmarked that-
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Yeah
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... original 100-
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Yeah
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... plus the 200 last year.
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Yeah.
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So we've got 300 right now sitting there.
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Yeah, that-
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That we marked
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... document you have, Joanna-
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It just shows-
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It's not...
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So that's an old one, yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah.
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Next meeting, could you present this if you can?
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Yes, I will try to do that.
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With updated-
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Yeah.
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I don't know, between the two of you.
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It kind of comes out of your-
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Accountant?
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Your accounting.
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He can have accounting.
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But I look at your report, I look-
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No, I don't.
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I look at him because he's the-
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You are blessed
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... he's the one that brings us the budget, and that's my apologies.
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
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We understand what you want.
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So
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the executive team-
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We locked his own payment out or...?
[26:36]
Woo.
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Well, it's a good discussion.
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There we go. All right. Anything else on this?
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All in favor? Aye.
[26:42]
Aye.
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Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
[26:45]
Okay.
[26:46]
Go ahead and pay MERS.
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Well, if you control, please.
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We'll talk later.
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And then the second one is just a contractor wanted to get paid.
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This is a budgeted item from the wall sign
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project down at the corner. Just a reminder, it's the township board
[27:05]
funded, partially funded. The library,
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the
[27:10]
Pinckney, Putnam, Hamburg, Kal, Chamber of Commerce, and then there's been some
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donations as well. So motion to approve the payment to Cody
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Ford for $6,000
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for masonry work.
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Will there be more coming after this wave soon?
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Invoices? Well, yeah, but-
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I'll second it for you.
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Yeah, we got to- Move by Dolan, second by Miller. We just discussed it today.
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We got to-
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Right
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... we have to invoice the library and-
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Right
[27:36]
... the chamber to-
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Yes
[27:37]
... bring their money to us. Is he done
[27:40]
with his work? He will be done in the next day, day and a
[27:44]
half, so he doesn't get his check until he's done. Yeah.
[27:46]
I know some of the pretty stuff went, a little section of that went.
[27:50]
Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, he anticipates a day and a half.
[27:53]
So you said the library's contributing to this?
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$5,000. Really?
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I don't remember-
[27:57]
And how much is the chamber?
[27:58]
... hearing that.
[27:58]
Yeah. That's nice.
[27:59]
I mean, that's great, but-
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Yeah
[28:01]
... communication.
[28:02]
So the
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design work was donated by Bruce Donovan, Donovan Construction.
[28:08]
The engineer, he works closely with out of Novi.
[28:12]
The design work was required to be stamped by an engineer for the Livingston
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County Building Department. That engineer donated his
[28:21]
time and the stamp.
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5,000 from the library, 17,000 from the Chamber of Commerce.
[28:29]
And then is the library funds and the chamber funds coming
[28:33]
to us, or are they just going to pay for their sections percent?
[28:36]
Well, I discussed it with the accounting team today, and the chamber was
[28:40]
up for it. They were like, "We don't care how many checks-
[28:42]
We've got a check
[28:43]
... we cut or whatever."
[28:43]
So-
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But to-
[28:45]
They'll take chaos
[28:45]
... keep the project all billed out under our books,
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we're going to send them invoices asking for their full.
[28:52]
Okay.
[28:52]
We'll make the project positive.
[28:54]
So this is going to come out of the sign-
[28:57]
Yes
[28:57]
... fund budget, and it's going to get funded by-
[28:59]
We're going to get Michelle, we already created a general ledger account for the
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sign-
[29:02]
Well, okay
[29:03]
... project.
[29:03]
So what's the total amount, Guy? Do we know the total amount?
[29:06]
The what? The total amount.
[29:07]
The total amount.
[29:08]
Was it 30- In here
[29:08]
... 35,000?
[29:09]
I don't know. I presented a budget. We approved the budget.
[29:12]
Whatever it is, it's still on budget.
[29:13]
It's not-
[29:14]
It was like 30 or 35,000 total.
[29:16]
Yeah.
[29:16]
Sounds about-
[29:17]
Low 30s is what I remember.
[29:18]
Yeah. So.
[29:20]
So Mike, we're within budget? Yeah, it's not over budget.
[29:23]
So far, every line item has come in on budget.
[29:25]
Okay. So we're staying under budget, and we got additional funds that we weren't
[29:29]
aware of when we approved this, so it's actually costing us less than we initially
[29:32]
planned.
[29:33]
I don't remember... The library wasn't-
[29:34]
No, it wasn't part of our discussion.
[29:36]
No. Mm-mm.
[29:37]
So it's good stuff.
[29:38]
Yeah.
[29:38]
That's good news. More donations are welcome.
[29:41]
Yeah. Yeah.
[29:42]
Did we vote?
[29:44]
Not yet.
[29:44]
All right.
[29:44]
Any further discussion?
[29:45]
No.
[29:47]
All in favor?
[29:48]
Aye. Aye.
[29:48]
Aye.
[29:48]
Aye. Aye.
[29:49]
Any opposed?
[29:50]
Okay.
[29:51]
Thank you.
[29:54]
All right.
[29:54]
I'll make a motion that we go into closed session to
[29:57]
discuss two items, one being property acquisition,
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and the second one being police contract negotiations. I'll second.
[30:06]
Because
[30:08]
of their-
[30:09]
Financial
[30:10]
... potential financial impact on the township, that it would be-
[30:12]
Oh, that's a John-
[30:13]
... deleterious
[30:13]
... Brady at all thing. I don't buy into that, but go ahead. Okay, that's fine.
[30:17]
Per MCL. Okay. All right. Moved by Dolan, seconded by Daniels.
[30:21]
Roll call vote, please.
[30:22]
Yes.
[30:22]
Negri?
[30:23]
Yes.
[30:23]
Dolan, yes. Daniels? Yes. Hardesty?
[30:25]
Yes.
[30:26]
Hughes? Yes. Menzies?
[30:27]
Yes.
[30:27]
Miller?
[30:28]
Yes.
[30:28]
All right.
[30:29]
We used to be called trustee or treasurer
[30:33]
or supervisor.
[30:34]
Yeah. No, now it's just last names.
[30:36]
Well.
[30:36]
So we're all equals at this table.
[30:38]
I guess. Okay. Would you like my rationale? Yeah.
[30:40]
Okay.
[30:41]
No? There's rationale behind it. Yeah. What is it?
[30:43]
Love it.
[30:43]
So one, we-