[0:00] Association it was going to be an

[0:01] increase garbage contracts are typically

[0:04] organized for four to five years to help

[0:06] but we have had a really good rate for a

[0:08] long year a long time our current rate

[0:11] as you can see up on the slide is

[0:12] fourteen dollars and eight cents per

[0:14] customer that is what the customers have

[0:16] been charged even after the new rate was

[0:21] approved in the contract we did not pass

[0:23] that on to that we are considering

[0:24] tonight our inks dollars and 90 cents

[0:28] so you have two options there

[0:31] in comparison like I said garbage has

[0:35] escalated everywhere and has escalated

[0:37] at a high rate on the dollars and 95

[0:41] cents Hammond's new rate which is two

[0:44] times a week service would be 20.48 or

[0:49] 20.98 on the side of the house and

[0:52] rolled back in for

[0:54] 22.70 Jefferson Parish has two times a

[0:58] week service for a cost of

[1:00] 23.90 Bossier City has once a week

[1:04] service for a cost of twenty four

[1:06] dollars New Orleans has once a week

[1:09] service for a cost of twenty four

[1:11] dollars Ascension and Livingston Parish

[1:14] have once a week service for a cost of

[1:17] 24.95

[1:19] Lafayette has one time a week plus they

[1:23] have curbside recycling one highest in

[1:25] our region at two times a week

[1:27] collection plus curbside recycling at

[1:30] 35.23 three cents it is my understanding

[1:34] those last two communities have been

[1:36] able to maintain their curbside

[1:38] recycling one because they have passed

[1:40] that cost on to customers but also

[1:43] because they have dedicated

[1:44] manufacturing recycling facilities in a

[1:47] nearby location to them that accept

[1:50] multiple types of recycled material

[1:54] some of our changes that we have had

[1:56] with the recycling at 190 we still do

[1:59] single stream which means that customers

[2:01] can bring you an entire container of

[2:04] plastics and cardboard and cereal boxes

[2:07] and Soup cans as long as they're washed

[2:10] out cleaned ready to go

[2:12] some of our challenges have been when

[2:14] customers come perhaps with bags that

[2:17] you can't see through or with they come

[2:19] with things that may be a plastic that

[2:22] all of a sudden one week was recyclable and then the next time is not

[2:29] able to be recycled

[2:31] so the manufacturing facilities that are

[2:33] receiving the recycled materials have

[2:36] changed kind of what they recycle at

[2:38] different times of the years as they try

[2:40] to meet their markets and their costs

[2:43] prohibit

[2:44] their cost prohibitions so

[2:47] the recycling Market as a whole is a

[2:51] very ever-changing Market it is a

[2:53] difficult Market to work in the cost

[2:56] escalations there ever since really four

[2:59] years ago when this hold started was

[3:02] because China stopped accepting the

[3:04] United States recycled materials and so

[3:08] the threshold became okay United States

[3:10] you're going to have to take care of

[3:11] your own Recycling and we didn't have

[3:13] the capacity in the major facilities

[3:16] across the country to even begin

[3:18] undertaking that

[3:19] so it has become a much more higher bar

[3:22] of cleanliness of no more pizza boxes

[3:26] with any sort of Grease no more you know

[3:29] soup can that kind of got only half

[3:31] washed everything has to be entirely

[3:33] washed and then marketable for those

[3:36] places

[3:38] so with that said the council has

[3:40] several decisions to make one do we pass

[3:44] on the the total rate increase to the

[3:47] customers I was asked to look into that

[3:50] and see if there are other communities

[3:52] is there anything that prohibits us from

[3:54] subsidizing trash because I know on

[3:57] social media and other places customers

[3:59] have asked why can't you just pay for

[4:00] the the trash

[4:02] we do not have an ordinance from the

[4:05] quick research that we have done we do

[4:07] not have an ordinance that prohibits

[4:09] that but in best practices I did reach

[4:12] out to the Louisiana Municipal

[4:13] Association they say that when you

[4:15] charge rates for services such as

[4:17] garbage Water and Sewer that you want

[4:19] those rates to handle the service that

[4:24] way your tax dollars can go to other

[4:26] investments in the community such as

[4:28] infrastructure that's much harder to

[4:31] realize on a on a resident you know per

[4:33] cost per resident basis you don't

[4:37] necessarily charge a fee every time we

[4:39] do a street Improvement or we do a park

[4:41] Improvement we don't just add a new fee

[4:43] to a customer or a resident for those

[4:46] kinds of big projects so it's it's just

[4:49] a matter of where you invest your

[4:51] dollars and and how you choose to invest

[4:53] those dollars in the community

[4:55] with the budget that we introduced to

[4:58] you and with the budget that we had the work session on it does plan for

[5:03] this rate increase it plans for that

[5:05] additional Revenue to come into the city

[5:07] paid by the residents so if we were to

[5:11] choose a different path we would need to

[5:13] revise the budget and we would need to

[5:16] probably look at capital projects and

[5:18] figure out which ones of those we might

[5:20] need to shift to another fiscal year in

[5:23] order to cover that that the less amount

[5:27] of Revenue that would be received

[5:29] so right now the revenue is projected on

[5:31] this rate being covered by the customers

[5:34] and then on the expenditure you know

[5:37] just being a wash through the budget

[5:39] so if there are questions I'm happy to

[5:41] answer those or comments from the public

[5:44] do you have an amount for

[5:46] um the the in if the city paid for it it

[5:49] would need to be in the new budget right

[5:51] if the city covered the increase of the

[5:54] cost you're probably looking at around

[5:56] 400 to 500 000 depending on which month

[5:59] and how many customers we had for that

[6:01] month that would be for the whole year

[6:03] though so that's a that's a Year's worth

[6:05] of the cost increase

[6:10] how you doing Miss spicy I'm good how

[6:13] are you okay look as of right now so

[6:15] it's four hundred thousand dollars that

[6:17] the city will that the city would have

[6:19] to pay from

[6:20] today on to the end of the year right to

[6:23] the end of the year yes sir and that's a rough estimate because of

[6:26] course it would be based on per customer

[6:28] per month okay so look give me a rough

[6:31] estimate on how much the city didn't pay

[6:34] on this uh contract so far since the day

[6:38] it was signed all the way up to the day

[6:41] I would have to go back and look at

[6:42] exactly what date that was

[6:44] but I can certainly get that information

[6:46] for you it was it August was it August

[6:48] or I think it was after that I want to

[6:50] say it was like October maybe or

[6:52] November that we switched

[6:58] okay

[7:10] and something else I noticed uh

[7:14] normally when we comparing

[7:16] cities and we comparing areas

[7:20] what's the rate Ponchatoula pay for

[7:22] their garbage right now

[7:27] dollars

[7:30] okay

[7:31] what's the rate a meat pan for their

[7:34] garbage I do not have that rate

[7:36] okay because what I what I'm looking at all these here

[7:42] different areas

[7:45] but I was looking for the areas right

[7:47] around us where the service that we had

[7:50] at first is still being used

[7:52] through those areas and normally when we

[7:54] make decisions we kind of make decisions

[7:56] on what punchatula do uh what the parish

[8:01] do and from what the knowledge that I

[8:04] have the parish in Ponchatoula still

[8:07] using the old company

[8:09] they may be the Paris service you have

[8:11] the opportunity to use different

[8:13] contractors if you're outside the city

[8:15] limits

[8:16] and you typically if you're outside the

[8:18] city limits only have one time a week

[8:20] service not two times a week service

[8:23] that's been unique to Hammond and

[8:25] Ponchatoula

[8:26] so Ponchatoula getting one time a week

[8:29] service I don't know if they're getting

[8:30] one time a week or two time a week

[8:34] okay

[8:53] anyone else have any questions or

[8:55] concerns on this on this matter come to

[8:58] the mic

[8:58] state your name and address please

[9:07] shout out nicolosa 3607 Highway 190 West

[9:12] uh I've got a

[9:15] I have some questions but it's is this

[9:18] the time for me to bring it out or or

[9:22] that it's going to be voted on the order

[9:25] that's going to be voted on when tonight

[9:27] this is the public uh hearing right now

[9:29] to so you can you can talk right now

[9:31] this is public discussion okay well well

[9:35] the reason I'm people don't limit that

[9:37] income

[9:38] and maybe six seven eight dollars don't

[9:41] hurt

[9:42] certain people but it does hurt a lot of

[9:45] people in in you know in the city limits

[9:48] so what I'm looking at is I know I'm

[9:52] limited on income

[9:53] my my money's not going to be going up

[9:56] anymore

[9:57] you know my my basic income

[9:59] now according to this it's going to be

[10:02] you're looking at a 30 increase

[10:05] on on this you know going from 14

[10:10] to 20.98

[10:13] 19 20s

[10:16] yeah 20.98 so I mean you know six seven

[10:20] eight dollars don't sound like a lot

[10:23] but the city's been paying for it for

[10:26] how long now about eight months I'm

[10:28] sorry about eight months okay so I pay property tax

[10:33] you know every time

[10:35] we turn around

[10:37] you know I'm I'm I've got to pay my my

[10:40] taxes or whatever but what I'm looking

[10:42] at is the public the people that don't

[10:45] come out here you know they only got

[10:47] about maybe five or six of us here

[10:50] but I've had calls from people and

[10:52] that's the thing that's frustrating is

[10:54] that they call you're going to want this

[10:56] and they want that and not and y'all ask

[10:59] them I said come over here all you gotta

[11:01] do is come here and say hello

[11:03] so with basically what I'm looking at

[11:06] I don't know who even brought this up

[11:08] the uh the mayor or whenever he went

[11:10] into a contract and now was it up to the console to agree with

[11:16] this

[11:19] anybody yes so y'all the council was

[11:22] able to agree with it

[11:24] or did y'all know anything about it

[11:26] before

[11:30] yep um this was presented to us back in

[11:38] nothing was ever done with it

[11:40] so now it's being brought back up

[11:43] okay so now the council has the option

[11:47] to weather approve it or deny prove it

[11:50] or deny

[11:51] okay so what I'm looking at if it's a 30

[11:54] increase

[11:55] you know in uh

[11:58] would would limit an income of these

[12:01] people in the Paris underwater city

[12:03] rather you know we're still looking at

[12:05] so much

[12:07] money coming out of their pocket

[12:10] Now understand certain people

[12:13] figure six seven eight dollars is not a lot of money

[12:17] but it is so I'm gonna say sixty percent

[12:19] of the people in the City of Hammond

[12:22] I know it is to me so what I like to do

[12:25] I'm against it I would I would

[12:27] appreciate if y'all consider looking at

[12:30] it from the angle of the peak without

[12:33] y'all represent

[12:35] that way

[12:36] no one in your mind

[12:39] that you know you're making the right

[12:41] decision I think the city has enough

[12:43] money to continue paying for it

[12:47] now I see a laugh from Steve but but I'm asking so you tell me

[12:54] it continues to pay for it then

[12:56] something else has to go uh projects

[12:59] infrastructure you know all you did

[13:02] there's no new money

[13:04] it was budget was the budget was

[13:06] approved the budget was proposed with

[13:10] this slight increase

[13:12] in there if we don't do it then that

[13:15] means we got to cut something else which

[13:17] means somebody else is not going to get

[13:19] something maybe in your District maybe

[13:21] in my district maybe in somebody else's

[13:23] District but something

[13:25] else that's going to cost about a half a

[13:28] billion dollars is going to go away some

[13:30] service that is needed

[13:32] okay you know and the other thing that

[13:35] remind you of do what Steve I said the

[13:38] other thing that I will just remind you

[13:40] of is no matter what we do

[13:43] you're not going to pay 14 for garbage

[13:47] again unless the city picks it up and

[13:49] then something else has to go you know

[13:51] rates of a lot of things have gone up so

[13:55] it's okay all of this was discussed

[14:00] okay I understand it was discussed but

[14:03] it wasn't approved by anybody

[14:05] you know

[14:06] I don't think it was even brought before

[14:08] the council if I'm not correct am I

[14:10] correct or not

[14:12] well I thought it wasn't brought before

[14:13] the console so the Garbage Contract the

[14:16] new contract the new one which is what sets the price of garbage okay so

[14:22] during that discussion we knew the price

[14:24] of garbage and what it would have to be

[14:26] raised to

[14:28] so we were well aware that garbage was

[14:31] going to cost almost 21 dollars a month

[14:33] that was discussed a lot

[14:36] the increase was not presented at that

[14:40] time this is the first time that the

[14:42] increase basically taking what the

[14:45] citizens pay all of us pay increasing it

[14:48] by six dollars seven dollars this is

[14:50] tonight is the first time that we've voted on that

[14:55] but the increase in the rate that the

[14:57] city pays was back in September October

[15:00] and that was approved by who this

[15:02] Council

[15:04] ah okay I just wanted to make sure I

[15:07] just want to clarify that is that the

[15:10] current calculation of what you're

[15:12] paying right now was off of a contract

[15:15] that had another 18 months or so left on

[15:18] it that was terminated

[15:20] without me knowing I did not I did I did

[15:23] not support the determination of that it

[15:25] was terminated

[15:27] and then presented to the council at

[15:29] that point had knew we had no garbage in

[15:33] place because a good contract was

[15:35] already terminated so therefore we were

[15:37] placed with what we have now and

[15:40] therefore when that was we voted to

[15:43] approve that company because it was the

[15:45] cheapest that company after the contract

[15:48] that we already had right now was

[15:49] terminated not not I was not a support

[15:52] of that I was in a sport that I did not

[15:54] know about it so I want to clear that up

[15:56] and then so now this whole time the rate

[15:59] does not go the rate was not adjusted or

[16:01] talked about going to affect being

[16:03] increased until now so therefore it went

[16:08] into place we voted on a contract but as

[16:10] far as the money goes that was not

[16:12] presented to us to to implement the

[16:15] increase to the people until now

[16:19] so that's that's the story with the old uh it was called Waste

[16:25] Management yeah

[16:28] I am waste waste management

[16:31] that was the old contract and the mayor

[16:33] went on and just canceled out and

[16:35] renewed a new one with Waste Pro is that

[16:38] correct yeah

[16:41] termination was by the mayor's office on

[16:44] the

[16:45] current on the on the calculation that

[16:47] you have right now your bill right now

[16:49] is calculated off of the previous

[16:50] contract uh and and so yeah

[16:56] well what I would like to consider with

[16:59] the Constitution think about your people

[17:01] that's not uh you know not as well

[17:04] there's a lot of other people and uh you

[17:07] know working in in the City of Hammond

[17:09] uh

[17:11] we just need a little bit more lenient

[17:14] from the council to represent the people

[17:17] and six to seven dollars is a lot of

[17:19] money for some people so I'm here asking

[17:22] that y'all consider that I'm against it

[17:25] and I've had 20 calls and I'm just

[17:28] expressing what they're telling me so if

[17:31] anybody in the audience says there's a

[17:32] thing to say you're welcome thank you

[17:47] good evening good evening council

[17:49] president Council Administration and

[17:51] everyone Tracy Washington Wells 610

[17:54] Mooney Avenue

[17:56] and while I appreciate the garbage

[17:59] comparisons that the Administration has

[18:01] presented to you all you represent your

[18:04] districts here

[18:05] you voted for this uh contract to go

[18:09] into place in September of last year

[18:11] minus one vote by my councilman

[18:15] um who was against it

[18:17] I can only speak on behalf of what I

[18:19] know occurs in the district I live which

[18:22] is District 3. and according to a grant

[18:26] that was funded to the City of Hammond

[18:29] we are

[18:30] 96.4 3 low to moderate income seven

[18:36] dollars may not seem and I'm saying

[18:38] seven because it was six thousand nine

[18:40] eight cents may not seem like a lot to

[18:42] you but for someone that may be their

[18:44] medicine there may be bread and with the

[18:47] day's prices it may not even cover the

[18:49] eggs

[18:50] so I asked you to consider your

[18:53] representatives that elected you I was

[18:56] at the budget work session and I don't

[18:58] recall hearing and if it was said and I

[19:02] did hear it excuse me but I don't recall

[19:04] hearing that this was part of the budget

[19:06] already

[19:07] you guys are getting ready to approve a

[19:09] 2.3 million dollar project out by the

[19:12] airport and there are other issues and

[19:15] concerns but I don't think that seven

[19:18] dollars passed on to us the citizens

[19:21] should be voted for because although you

[19:25] have voted for a contract the way that

[19:27] it was done

[19:29] it was not Kosher you all didn't have an

[19:31] opportunity to decide whether or not you

[19:33] wanted a new contract that contract was

[19:36] canceled without your approval so you

[19:38] really was put behind already so I'm

[19:42] asking you and you may not have

[19:44] representation here tonight but I

[19:46] guarantee when they get that new bill

[19:48] and there's a twenty dollar charge

[19:50] you're going to be getting phone calls

[19:53] thank you

[19:59] is there anyone else

[20:07] Hamilton City Council regular agenda

[20:09] session

[20:10] June 13 2023

[20:14] 5 53 P.M

[20:17] roll call please councilman Andrews

[20:19] president councilman divitario president

[20:22] councilwoman Gonzalez president

[20:24] councilman Leon president councilman

[20:26] Wells here

[20:28] our prayer please

[20:30] [Applause]

[20:33] oh

[20:34] what's gracious love Eternal Father we

[20:36] thank you on today Father God we give

[20:38] you the glory and honor that is due your

[20:39] name father come right now thanking you

[20:41] for your darling son who died in our

[20:43] place just to cover our sins and for

[20:45] that we're eternally grateful father God

[20:47] we come asking right now that everything

[20:49] that seemed to be done decent ought to

[20:50] pleasing and in your sight therefore you

[20:52] would get all glory all honor and all

[20:54] praise father God actually continue to

[20:56] cover us and keep us and protect us from

[20:57] all hurt harm and danger continue to

[20:59] bless this counsel continue to bless

[21:01] their families continue to bless the

[21:03] districts in which they serve and

[21:04] represent right now and we actually

[21:05] should continue to bless our city

[21:08] Administration continue to bless our

[21:10] fire department our Police Department

[21:11] continue to cover all of our city

[21:13] employees father feds every time we need

[21:15] you we need you right now so we have to

[21:17] continue to look down upon to continue

[21:19] to guide us and keep us continuing to

[21:21] govern us through this meeting therefore

[21:22] you will get all glory all honor and all

[21:24] praise in Jesus name we pray amen

[21:28] all right for our Pledge of Allegiance I

[21:30] ask that all veterans and active

[21:32] military please properly render the

[21:34] proper salute

[21:35] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[21:38] United States of America and to the

[21:41] Republic for which it stands one nation

[21:43] under God indivisible with liberty and

[21:46] justice for all

[21:49] right

[21:53] can I get approval of our minutes from

[21:56] May 23rd 2023 please

[21:59] make a motion to approve second

[22:03] councilman Andrews

[22:05] aye councilman divitaria aye

[22:07] councilwoman Gonzalez aye councilman

[22:09] Leon aye councilman Wales abstain

[22:15] all right final adoption of ordinance

[22:17] number one

[22:19] final adoption of an ordinance to

[22:21] increase the monthly garbage fee from

[22:23] 1408 to 20.98 Lacey Landrum

[22:32] this is the same that we just discussed

[22:34] so if there's any additional questions

[22:36] or comments I have a question about the

[22:37] recycling

[22:39] um

[22:40] the document attached if we did not do

[22:43] the recycling then that would be

[22:47] 6.48 is that right and 40 cents and 40

[22:50] cents and um I I have quite a few people

[22:55] in my district who reach out they use

[22:57] the the City Recycling

[22:59] I'm sensitive to the rate increase issue

[23:03] obviously that recyclops that was going

[23:06] around a while I'd love to see I'll

[23:09] reach out to them see if they are still

[23:10] waiting to get 100 people signed up

[23:12] because people who want recycling they

[23:14] may pay the hundred dollars a year to

[23:16] get recycling there so to me that makes

[23:19] sense to at least take that off because

[23:22] we don't know for sure where that

[23:24] recycling is going if it's cost

[23:25] effective and actually environmentally

[23:28] effective

[23:29] that's just we had a little discussion

[23:32] about Recycling and that's how I feel if anybody else has an issue with

[23:36] recycling

[23:38] um I brought it up I think a while back

[23:39] I think you were going to check into the comments that were made about

[23:46] probably about 90 percent of the uh recycling is going to the dump

[23:51] you know and and so that was that was

[23:53] said one of the other uh when we voted

[23:55] on the previous contract

[23:58] um approval and that was kind of

[24:01] um while my uh position was the way it

[24:04] was about

[24:05] not supporting that if we were double

[24:08] paying for that and just doing the roll

[24:10] away at a better cost

[24:12] at that time whenever we voted on the

[24:14] previous contract so if that's the case

[24:18] you know we kind of really need to know

[24:20] that and I think the people

[24:22] who uh are rethinking they're recycling

[24:25] you know no no what's going on and and

[24:28] if and if that isn't

[24:31] um approved or chosen that that the

[24:33] reason being is that it's it's not a

[24:36] it's not as good as it sounds

[24:38] um and so it's not that it's a hand tie

[24:41] or against recycling it's more so of a uh cost matter and pretty much not

[24:48] being taken advantage of pretty much so yeah I think it's a compounding

[24:52] effect I think you're right I

[24:55] as we've had lots of discussions over

[24:58] the past years the entire recycling

[25:00] Market the the bottom has fallen out of

[25:03] it is no longer marketable for a lot of

[25:06] companies to recycle because the goods

[25:08] and services I don't think a lot of

[25:09] people knew that your goods and services

[25:12] that were recycled here in the United

[25:14] States you think that they go to find a

[25:16] home as a new plastic bottle or as a new

[25:18] glass something or whatever that's

[25:20] actually not what was happening at all

[25:22] they were getting shipped over to China

[25:23] and India and who knows what was

[25:25] happening at that point our other

[25:28] challenge is that our we've had several

[25:30] conversations with different providers

[25:32] about a percentage can we get a

[25:35] percentage or can we get a tonnage or

[25:37] can we get some kind of verification and

[25:40] what we keep getting are a lot of

[25:41] different answers we get that oh yeah

[25:45] well this week was really good for

[25:46] cardboard and this week they didn't

[25:48] accept the Plastics or this one they had

[25:50] to throw away this part but they

[25:52] recycled this part and so we're not

[25:54] getting straight answers and I don't

[25:56] feel like it's a good value to the

[25:58] taxpayers until you can get that kind of

[26:01] well maybe maybe work maybe we need to

[26:04] go more toward just you know looking at

[26:06] a third party option and and a and and

[26:09] promoting it to the people

[26:13] um so they know that we are pushing

[26:16] recycling but

[26:18] um through a different company that they

[26:20] have an option to go with and and and

[26:23] organize their their recycling through

[26:26] them and I'm sure there's a lot of

[26:27] companies out there I'm sure

[26:29] um that do that like Carly said they had

[26:31] one that came in I think a while back

[26:33] over here and uh you know not pushing

[26:35] him but I'm sure there's a lot of

[26:37] options out there that we may need to

[26:39] research to to send notice out to to

[26:42] people in the community for the

[26:44] recycling

[26:48] the only other thing I want to add is um

[26:52] if we if the if the increase doesn't

[26:55] pass then we're looking to add the city

[26:58] taxpayers to pay four to five hundred

[27:00] thousand dollars a year just subsidized

[27:02] garbage

[27:03] from about October 1st to the end of

[27:06] this month the city will have paid

[27:08] around 300 to 330 000 of taxpayer money

[27:13] subsidizing the cost of the garbage

[27:16] it's a yearly it's a yearly it's a

[27:19] yearly cost and every you know we we

[27:21] spend our budget work sessions and we

[27:25] have so many

[27:26] um so I I just don't I don't know how we

[27:30] don't pass this on to the customers

[27:32] because

[27:33] we're looking at half a million dollars

[27:35] every year in our budget to pay for just

[27:38] a portion of garbage it's not even all

[27:40] of garbage it's not like we're offering

[27:42] free garbage to everyone we're just

[27:43] offering

[27:45] a part of your garbage

[27:47] that doesn't seem like a good deal to

[27:49] anybody quite quite honestly in my

[27:51] opinion and it's not going to go back

[27:52] down it's not going to go back down it's

[27:54] not like we're going to be able to

[27:55] handle this for a couple of years and

[27:57] then and then it'll go back down to 14.

[28:00] um I mean I don't obviously don't have a looking glass or I can tell where that

[28:05] that's true or not but none of us can

[28:08] imagine that prices are going to go back

[28:09] down so

[28:11] um I just we're gonna consistently

[28:14] add money taxpayer money to subsidizing

[28:18] garbage every single year when we

[28:21] already have a tight budget it doesn't

[28:22] seem like good use of tax dollars to me

[28:28] oh one minute please oh

[28:32] I'm trying my best not to say nothing

[28:34] about this

[28:36] because what's going to take place

[28:39] we already see what district will be

[28:42] affected by because of the conversation

[28:45] that started off that

[28:48] the districts

[28:50] gonna end up being affected

[28:52] by the capital lay projects

[28:56] and

[28:58] we wasn't concerned about this budget

[29:00] when we gave that raise out and then

[29:04] that in the budget right now we're still

[29:07] looking at a two percent raise when we

[29:09] just gave our a humongous race

[29:11] and what nothing said

[29:14] and

[29:15] everything we do

[29:18] it affects the taxpayer

[29:21] so we just can't be concerned about one

[29:23] thing let's look at everything the

[29:26] railroad spur it affects the taxpayer

[29:30] so everything we do paying uh

[29:35] helped me out when we was paying the

[29:37] bill where you can go get your driving

[29:38] license you've been paying that bill for

[29:41] 20 years the taxpayers

[29:44] that's coming out

[29:46] of the taxpayers money and what nothing

[29:48] said about that and look we eliminate

[29:51] that

[29:52] the railroad spur is paying for itself

[29:54] now when it was the taxpayer so when we

[29:58] talk let's talk about the whole

[30:00] the taxpayers are not able yes some of

[30:04] us up here is able and I'm not gonna you

[30:06] know I can't lie yeah I'm able to pay it

[30:09] but what about my neighbor

[30:11] what about my aunt what about my brother

[30:13] what about my grandmother what about my

[30:16] sister

[30:17] Hammond the people don't make no money

[30:21] no they're not able to pay it they'll go

[30:22] to the store and buy some tennis shoes

[30:24] now but they bought what they want but

[30:26] they still not able to pay these fees

[30:29] just because we throw it up on no we

[30:33] have to be considerate every time we

[30:35] vote on everything because it do have an

[30:39] impact

[30:40] on the taxpayers so let's be considerate

[30:43] we pretty much know

[30:45] how a person's gonna do already because

[30:47] they district is covered

[30:49] the infrastructure is short in my

[30:52] district the sidewalks it's short in my

[30:55] district I'll tell you what's short the

[30:57] damn part what I want the kids to play

[30:59] in it's short in my district yeah I

[31:02] can't bite my tongue District 3 is

[31:05] coming up short

[31:06] every time you spend one dollar you'll

[31:09] spend a hundred thousand dollars in

[31:10] another District that ain't nobody

[31:12] talking about doing the budget

[31:15] nobody have nothing to say because they

[31:17] District are already getting everything

[31:18] I have a lot to say because my district

[31:20] started coming up short doing this here

[31:23] when the night over with y'all don't see

[31:25] it yeah it's gonna affect District three because

[31:29] you know why District three got a

[31:31] representative they're gonna talk for

[31:33] other people not for me for the people

[31:36] District three have a lot of poor people

[31:39] in the area

[31:41] so the garbage

[31:43] it gonna hurt us and you're gonna see

[31:47] when the next item come up item two

[31:50] now we finna give garbage away and who

[31:52] paying for that the taxpayers

[31:55] and and I want to say you know and while

[31:58] we're here today is

[31:59] you know there's no worry to say it but

[32:03] just some some some poor decisions and

[32:05] then now now here we are faced with

[32:07] discussing this increase on 30 percent

[32:09] so this should have been taking place

[32:11] when the decision was made to terminate

[32:14] the current the previous contract at

[32:17] that price and negotiate a plan that

[32:19] would not hit the the residents by a 30

[32:22] increase they weren't they we still had

[32:25] an 18 months left on that contract they

[32:28] could have negotiated additional

[32:30] extension for a two dollar give them

[32:32] their two dollars and get another four

[32:33] years or whatever and and things could

[32:36] have been handled a little differently

[32:37] at that point in time and and I wasn't a

[32:40] part of that decision and so therefore

[32:42] here we are now facing this issue right

[32:45] here and so it's tax dollars it's tax

[32:48] dollars tax dollars taxpayers been

[32:50] paying it

[32:51] from when the decision was made

[32:54] and uh you know and if and if the people

[32:57] pay and it's still taxes it's increased

[32:59] on taxes so

[33:09] my name is Maria hunt

[33:11] um

[33:12] 14032 Country Manor Road Hammond

[33:15] Louisiana

[33:16] 70403 that's my old address my new

[33:19] address I wouldn't

[33:20] I wish not to say what it is is that

[33:22] okay that's okay thank you

[33:25] um

[33:26] you know y'all talking about the the

[33:29] garbage fee going up but I never heard

[33:31] the causes and conditions why what is

[33:34] the basic you know

[33:36] why you know it's a landfill demanding

[33:39] money or the employees demanding money

[33:42] um why is it going up what is the cause

[33:44] and conditions you know getting down to

[33:46] the root of the problem you know

[33:49] um I didn't hear that if y'all said it

[33:52] and I missed it I'm sorry you know

[33:54] um also I was looking at the resolutions

[33:56] I don't know if y'all go over them you

[33:59] know but serving alcohol from 7 30 to 11

[34:02] A.M I think that's why the police

[34:05] department needs both proof vests

[34:08] everybody's loaded and rocking in the

[34:11] street I mean what's with

[34:12] the hall and the open containers and all

[34:15] this stuff you know that that's like you

[34:18] know the drug and alcohol world is being

[34:22] praised you know at a walk and run

[34:24] they're going to serve alcohol in the

[34:27] morning from 7 30 to 11 A.M and like I

[34:30] said you know I hope the police

[34:32] department get that ball for proof fast

[34:35] so um

[34:37] thank you and for letting me be here and

[34:40] share and I hope everything works out

[34:44] thank you

[34:50] good evening everyone good evening

[34:52] Dangerfield 314 Wilbur Dangerfield Drive

[34:59] I understand what this lady is talking

[35:02] about the Chinese thing

[35:05] I've been hearing on the news about the

[35:07] robot thing for the for the recycling

[35:10] and all that

[35:12] but yeah we coming up short

[35:15] we always come up short in our district

[35:19] but I told the councilman I was going to

[35:22] work with him

[35:24] to get some of the things that I think

[35:27] the community needs

[35:30] now you people in a hard spot

[35:34] it ain't gonna be just gonna get some

[35:36] telephone calls when the people look

[35:38] down at they bill

[35:40] and see this increase

[35:43] they already know they can't afford

[35:45] and they're gonna say why me

[35:50] now y'all got to come over to answers

[35:53] because they gonna come up with the

[35:55] votes

[35:57] and believe me don't

[35:59] nothing bring a person out

[36:02] then affecting his pocketbook

[36:05] so

[36:06] should have been handled different

[36:09] I don't know why they changed from the

[36:11] old uh the old the old garbage

[36:13] collection service

[36:15] I mean I actually see the guys coming

[36:16] along get the garbage just fine

[36:18] maybe somebody didn't like what the

[36:21] people were doing

[36:23] you know why councilman you know why

[36:26] Council y'all let us know why but the

[36:28] problem is right now it's just like a

[36:31] church mouse

[36:32] if you talk you're gonna get punished so

[36:36] everybody gonna say nothing right now

[36:37] you ain't gonna get nobody to talk

[36:39] well I'm gonna tell you like this here

[36:44] I don't want to be

[36:46] and a whole lot of people that can't pay

[36:48] it

[36:50] you're gonna hurt them people

[36:52] like you said ain't nothing going down

[36:55] no more y'all if things going up

[36:58] internet what y'all gonna do about it

[37:03] thank you for your time

[37:05] thank you uh I'm gonna say this here

[37:11] about the garbage

[37:13] what the administration don't realize

[37:16] the councilman control the budget

[37:20] the councilman

[37:22] forgot what they supposed to do they

[37:24] gonna control the budget so if something

[37:26] they don't like

[37:28] they can always say we don't want that

[37:30] that's what the councilman don't realize

[37:32] the administration don't run the budget

[37:34] the administration set the budget out

[37:36] and it's up to the councilman to approve

[37:38] the budget so

[37:40] it ain't like your hands tied so you

[37:42] don't have to sit on your hands up here

[37:44] acting like they tired we control the

[37:46] budget

[37:48] and that's what the city don't realize

[37:50] and if you look around you from New

[37:53] Orleans to Bogalusa the councilman

[37:57] control the budget

[37:58] not the man not the administration the

[38:01] councilman control the budget the

[38:03] councilman is the one made sure the

[38:05] police got a raise

[38:06] the councilman made sure that the city

[38:08] workers got a raise

[38:10] the councilman did that so the

[38:12] councilman we control the budget so

[38:15] don't set up here and not be afraid

[38:19] well you know what's right you know

[38:20] what's wrong so don't sit here and sugar

[38:23] coat nothing

[38:24] and act like six dollars and 80 cent is

[38:29] no money

[38:30] so let's do our job and what the people

[38:34] picked us to do that's why all of us

[38:38] was able to come back up here because of

[38:41] the people

[38:43] let's do our job

[38:50] good afternoon

[38:54] director Administration you know I

[38:57] really said I was not gonna say anything

[38:59] but

[39:02] when I first came in and I sat down

[39:05] after a few minutes I wanted to walk

[39:06] back out the door

[39:09] My grandmother used to tell me time

[39:11] brings on a change

[39:17] and

[39:20] nothing is going to stay the same I

[39:22] remember when I could take a quarter and

[39:25] buy a bag of potato chips a candy bar

[39:28] some Moon cookies some two for a penny

[39:31] candy and a cold drink but I can't do

[39:35] that now because everything has gone up

[39:38] it's not my fault it's gone up it's not

[39:42] the council fault it's gone up it's not

[39:44] the mirror fault it's nobody's fault it

[39:47] is just government it's just inflation

[39:50] period there's nothing we could do about

[39:53] it but the one thing that we keep on

[39:56] doing I'm talking about this city

[39:58] council is the bickering and Madison and

[40:04] back and forth and she got this and they

[40:06] got that and we ain't got this if if we

[40:09] work together

[40:11] if we would just work together and come

[40:14] together instead of always pointing the

[40:17] finger blame blame we could get

[40:19] somewhere as far as the garbage is man

[40:23] if people if people don't want the

[40:26] garbage piled up outside they will pay

[40:30] it

[40:31] if they if it and it and and the one

[40:34] thing that this counselor should be

[40:36] doing instead of bickering against each

[40:38] other figuring out how to tell your

[40:42] constituents look this is what the deal

[40:45] is now we either gotta do this thing or

[40:48] we gonna have piled up a garbage all

[40:50] over our city

[40:51] I mean I it's it's just it is just it

[40:55] just hurts my heart that I was born in

[40:59] this city and I lived in Mississippi

[41:02] soon be 65 years and we're at the point

[41:05] now where we have we we can't we can't

[41:08] get anything done if we do get something

[41:11] done it's always a scream and a cursing

[41:15] match about it it is totally it is

[41:18] totally ridiculous they're grown people

[41:22] sit behind these areas

[41:26] and curse and screaming bicker and argue

[41:29] about everything that go on

[41:32] Come and Get Together We are never gonna

[41:34] get anything done if we keep on

[41:37] bickering and arguing about it I promise

[41:39] you Lord forgive me I represent God

[41:42] that's who I try to represent I don't

[41:45] always do it right but that's why Jesus

[41:48] died on the cross because he knew I

[41:50] wasn't gonna always do it right

[41:51] everybody do some stuff they haven't

[41:53] been doing but the thing is until this

[41:56] Council figure out

[41:59] how to put their heads together work out

[42:03] something that every that that that

[42:05] they're satisfied about

[42:08] try your best you you're gonna have to

[42:10] get it it's a give and take it ain't

[42:12] gonna always be your way it ain't going

[42:14] to be the other person's way but I

[42:16] promise you it with it that seven

[42:18] dollars

[42:19] I mean hey yeah it's a lot I'm for one

[42:23] can't afford it but if it has when it

[42:26] comes to garbage we don't want garbage

[42:28] all over the place and we and and if and

[42:30] if we have to figure out a way I mean if

[42:33] y'all could get together and figure out

[42:34] a way to make this thing work

[42:38] you could put your hands you gotta say

[42:40] look man can you not do with this for this to happen What can you do

[42:46] without for yourself instead of blaming

[42:49] each other

[42:51] I might have to stop you right there

[42:53] real quick because I don't think you may

[42:55] have been a different council meeting

[42:56] than I've been here for the last hour or

[42:58] so but I don't I didn't hear any

[43:00] bickering between any of us here it's a

[43:02] serious issues I don't know where you're

[43:04] at but hold on a second let me finish

[43:07] it's just a serious issue that people

[43:09] in this community have been at least

[43:12] calling me about

[43:13] in my district that I represent and it's

[43:16] a 30 increase on a garbage and we're all

[43:20] up here to make a a decision for people

[43:23] so it's something that is a serious

[43:25] decision to be made and everybody up

[43:28] here has a right to speak and say what

[43:30] they want to say and everything else and

[43:32] there was no bigger no cursing so I

[43:34] don't know where you were at but there

[43:35] was no cursing no bickering nothing up

[43:37] here there was some thoughts some some

[43:40] points being made by people in the

[43:42] audience and up up here as well making

[43:44] some points so I don't know maybe maybe

[43:46] I missed something but I didn't hear any

[43:49] bigger but anyway as I was saying

[43:53] uh I understand your constituents are

[43:57] calling you so that's where you go to

[44:02] your other members and you say look

[44:04] everybody gets together and say look man

[44:06] our constituents are having a fit that's

[44:08] where you come together

[44:10] and you try and you try your best to

[44:13] either make them understand or you try

[44:15] your best to figure out another way

[44:18] that's all I'm saying

[44:30] name is Pete Graco liver 2100 Westdale

[44:33] Court in Hammond

[44:36] I just want to ask one question

[44:38] the garbage runs twice a week

[44:41] why

[44:43] I don't have enough Gars to put in the

[44:46] garbage can twice a week

[44:48] why can't he cut it down to once a week

[44:50] and you won't have to raise it

[44:53] that's all I got to say

[44:56] I'll respond I think that's a a valid

[45:00] point we have had that discussion

[45:02] previously there are a lot of other

[45:04] people in the City of Hammond who would

[45:06] scream if it was once a week so it's

[45:08] kind of a balancing act of

[45:10] people who have large families they

[45:12] definitely need it twice a week people

[45:13] who are retirees maybe don't have

[45:15] children at home they only want it once

[45:17] a week so we had to make a decision of

[45:19] once a week or twice a week I understand

[45:20] that yeah but I tell you what I

[45:23] guarantee if you go around and check it

[45:25] as more people don't need it but once a

[45:27] week and twice a week I only

[45:30] once a week

[45:32] probably ate meat the rest of once a

[45:34] week why Hammond's got a rough if you

[45:37] want to save money for the people

[45:39] cut it down to once a week and you won't

[45:41] have to raise the budget

[45:44] thank you thank you

[45:51] Lacy our contract is twice a week we

[45:54] can't change to once a week for a

[45:56] different price correct

[45:59] you can always ask okay you can amend

[46:02] contracts as long as they as long as

[46:04] they you know would approve that but uh

[46:06] I think there's several ways I think the

[46:08] concerns of my district anyway is is the

[46:12] increase of so much at one time being a large 30 percent

[46:18] um increase so I mean I think maybe we

[46:21] need to go back to the drawing board and

[46:24] uh and then figure something out on on

[46:26] this

[46:27] um

[46:28] either either a a tier

[46:31] um

[46:32] transition

[46:34] um you know over over a period of time

[46:38] um increase or uh or or just uh you know

[46:42] looking at options of the one time a week compared to twice

[46:48] a week how much savings

[46:53] you know that there's some options I

[46:55] think instead of just sticking a 30

[46:57] percent increase on the

[46:59] you know on everybody at one time so

[47:01] that that's just something I'm thinking

[47:03] about so

[47:04] quick question for you ladies is that a

[47:07] way to actually

[47:08] get some answers to these questions

[47:11] look up like the once a week breakdown I

[47:15] know if we removed the the recycling we

[47:18] already see what that little bit would

[47:19] be but is there a way to go back to them

[47:21] to actually get a number on it to see

[47:24] what the difference would be I'm sure we

[47:27] could ask Andre kudrien our City

[47:30] attorney is out of town for the rest of

[47:31] this week but we can always go back to

[47:34] the provider we can ask Andre what's

[47:35] within our bounds as accepting bids and

[47:38] working with contracts and all that I'm

[47:40] sure we can always ask there's never a

[47:42] problem with asking

[47:44] okay my next question would be uh

[47:49] table in this

[47:51] until we can get an answer

[47:55] to see if there can be some kind of

[47:57] breakdown or something that when we can

[47:59] move through this here navigate through

[48:01] the water a little bit better

[48:04] all right Miss Lacey I have a question

[48:06] now so for the senior citizen I know we

[48:09] had talked about the senior citizen rate

[48:12] about they can they'll come get the

[48:14] garbage can from side of their house or

[48:16] whatever but now that we talking is it

[48:20] any way that we can see what 55 own up

[48:23] see if we can give a senior citizen

[48:26] discount because like the gentleman said

[48:28] you know he just have enough garbage for

[48:31] once a week

[48:33] and Mr site out he have enough garbage

[48:36] for once a week

[48:38] and I only have enough garbage for once

[48:41] a week so I don't have to put my can out

[48:43] there twice so is there any way that we

[48:45] can really look into not to help me but

[48:48] help the senior citizen because if you

[48:51] look in the room

[48:52] you see who in here talking about the

[48:55] rates it's the senior citizen and in my

[48:59] community a lot of people don't show up

[49:03] because once you talk

[49:06] somebody gonna go back and say they said

[49:08] this and they said that so that's what

[49:11] we deal with a lot in our community

[49:12] that's why they don't come to the

[49:15] council meeting because

[49:16] fingers be pouring at them

[49:19] well then you made a good point too A

[49:20] lot of the seniors are affecting a lot

[49:22] of seniors may not be able to come to

[49:23] the meetings because of whatever health

[49:25] reasons or whatnot but but they're

[49:27] affected by the by the garbage probably

[49:29] mostly so

[49:30] um that's another another issue as well

[49:33] too so

[49:37] well for this particular item

[49:39] at this point I would actually make a

[49:41] motion to table this item until we can

[49:44] get a breakdown on the once a week

[49:47] pickup

[49:48] and some options maybe just do that and

[49:51] also do seniors and I mean I don't know

[49:53] maybe get creative with you know with uh you know someone with large

[49:59] families gonna need to do twice I don't

[50:01] know how creative they can get with that

[50:02] but

[50:03] there's some of them they may not some

[50:05] of my district I'll get calls from some

[50:07] people and they put it out once probably

[50:09] every two weeks like there's just not

[50:11] much people that's not everybody so so

[50:13] and that that's something there that

[50:15] maybe we need to look at with seniors or

[50:18] pricing maybe or something so I look at

[50:22] a few options I I would say

[50:24] um go back to the drawn board and and

[50:26] maybe you know and even even if it's a

[50:30] tier where it's where it's over a period

[50:32] of time a year you know increase here

[50:34] there what not as opposed to all at one

[50:37] time I mean just several different

[50:38] options that we can look at to kind of

[50:40] uh help this situation out

[50:43] one option may be if the company is

[50:46] willing to go to once a week and if we

[50:48] don't have to rebid that you know

[50:50] there's lots of questions that we'll

[50:51] make sure and work through but one

[50:53] option may be because I know we have

[50:55] customers right now who have requested

[50:57] and pay for a second can that may be if

[51:01] you had a larger family to a way that

[51:04] you could do once a week service but

[51:07] you'd have you pay for that second can

[51:08] so like you're suggesting is maybe

[51:10] that's a way to give give a fair rate to

[51:13] a lot of people but then those who maybe

[51:15] have additional needs they supplement

[51:18] those and and they afford that way so

[51:20] that we will try to look as many options

[51:23] as we can yeah that that that's a good

[51:25] one right there you said with the two

[51:26] cans possibly could be a good for those

[51:29] households and then they wouldn't have

[51:30] to pass once a week so

[51:33] um

[51:34] but anyway yeah I think there's

[51:36] definitely more time needed to look at

[51:37] this so I

[51:42] H is a short question isn't the um

[51:45] garbage tied in with the water the

[51:47] sewage and in us the bill yes yes

[51:53] in my world

[51:55] um I might notice a little hike but I

[51:57] probably wouldn't notice it because

[51:58] everything's breaking down and then the

[52:01] water is always going up you know

[52:03] sometimes I feel like why isn't that

[52:06] separate I've been thinking this for

[52:08] years why isn't the garbage separate

[52:10] from the water and this and the sewage

[52:13] you know why do they make it one bill

[52:15] because who's getting all the money the

[52:17] water company you know is it really

[52:19] being split equally you know I've always

[52:22] had that question on one um

[52:26] it should show on that bill it should

[52:28] show like this sewer I don't think a lot

[52:31] of people notice it

[52:35] you know but I always wondered why they

[52:38] didn't keep the garbage separate from

[52:40] the water

[52:41] yeah they're separate on the bill but

[52:43] both of those services are provided by

[52:45] the city right so all the money comes to

[52:47] the city right so it's not like your

[52:50] money we take and give to amways we pay

[52:52] amways and then we take your money and

[52:54] reimburse ourselves and I think it's an

[52:56] efficiency thing too instead of somebody

[52:58] sending out two bill it's it saves time

[53:01] paper more efficient putting it all on

[53:03] one bill but yeah so yeah

[53:06] you're welcome thank you

[53:10] in Dallas

[53:12] by usage

[53:16] and all of those things do go in like

[53:18] your Revenue line items you'll see those

[53:20] separated so the same way that they're

[53:22] separated in your bill they don't just

[53:24] come to the city and all go in one big

[53:26] pot they stay in the water pot they stay

[53:28] in the sewer pot they stay in the

[53:30] garbage pot they stay in the Clean Water

[53:31] fee that goes to the state so each of

[53:34] those things that you see on your bill

[53:35] kind of stays in its own pot and then is

[53:38] combined in different ways either to pay

[53:40] the contractors or to pay the state or

[53:42] to pay for the services

[53:44] but the parish do have it separate

[53:46] though uh the parish habit where you can

[53:48] pay your garbage bill yourself per

[53:50] household they do have it like that so

[53:53] what uh President Andrew said

[53:56] yes I would like for us to uh

[54:00] put it on hold

[54:02] let's go over some things

[54:05] yes so you second that second a second

[54:09] there's another hand in the arm so

[54:11] somebody else had something to say

[54:13] sale so

[54:19] yes I just want to thank the council for

[54:21] listening to the public

[54:23] and uh you know it's always good to

[54:27] bring people in here

[54:29] and to try to you know get an

[54:31] understanding and the lady and Pete and

[54:33] a few people came in by because you know

[54:37] they were asked to come out but I asked

[54:40] 20 of them that caught me and I said

[54:42] well okay I'm going up there if y'all

[54:44] want to come come on

[54:46] but you know it's like when you're a

[54:48] certain age now you don't want to get

[54:50] out as much and I think that once a week

[54:53] is a great program because

[54:57] uh the garbage cans are really big

[55:00] number one and uh maybe you know the

[55:04] city could read we worked that contract

[55:07] if the uh you know as long as the

[55:10] council is willing to work with and

[55:12] thinking about the the people and you

[55:15] know that's that we represent okay I say

[55:17] we I'm talking about the council

[55:19] representing and thank y'all for

[55:21] listening thank you thank you

[55:25] councilman Andrews aye councilman

[55:28] divitario aye councilwoman Gonzalez aye

[55:31] councilman Leon aye councilman Wales aye

[55:35] introduction of earnest 9 resolutions

[55:38] resolution number one a resolution to

[55:41] Grant a waiver of the city of Hammond's

[55:43] open container law to North Shore

[55:46] families helping families for the third

[55:48] annual

[55:50] nfhf walk run and roll 5K and 10K event

[55:55] being held on Saturday September 16

[55:59] 2023 from 6 00 a.m to 11 A.M at Kate

[56:04] Square Park actual service of alcohol

[56:07] will be from 7 30 to 11 A.M the event

[56:11] boundaries are West Charles Street North

[56:14] Magnolia Street West Robert Street and

[56:17] North Oak Street Heather Saint Emmett

[56:20] families and their race director

[56:22] I'm here to ask for an ordinance

[56:24] variation for that short period of time

[56:27] to clarify open container alcohol it's

[56:31] just beer I've spoken to we have a soft

[56:35] commitment from low road Brewing which

[56:37] is a local Brewery I wanted to kind of

[56:40] keep it local in the neighborhood it's

[56:42] mainly to be honest it's a marketing

[56:45] Ploy it's to Runners like beer they like

[56:48] to have a an eight ounce

[56:50] glass of beer after a run and to attract

[56:54] more Runners to pay a registration fee

[56:58] which makes money for our organization

[57:00] which

[57:01] tangipahoe parish is a big part of our

[57:05] community that we help

[57:07] so that's basically what it is and it's

[57:10] a very short period of time and I can

[57:12] tell you I have never been to a race and

[57:15] I've been running for years I've been

[57:17] coaching for years and I've never seen

[57:19] drunks

[57:21] at an after party

[57:23] but it's very simple it's it's an event

[57:27] basically our organization

[57:30] we provide resources and services along

[57:33] with Educational Services for children

[57:36] and adults with um

[57:39] developmental disabilities and special

[57:40] needs

[57:41] and we cover St Tammany tangipaho

[57:44] Washington Saint Helena and Livingston

[57:46] Parish we are region nine and this is

[57:49] our biggest fundraiser of the year

[57:52] and we're hoping that it goes very well

[57:55] considering that some of our funding

[57:57] from the state is on The Chopping Block

[58:00] which I'm sure a lot of other funds are

[58:02] on the shopping block as well so I ask

[58:04] for your consideration in granting this

[58:06] uh ordinance variation and

[58:10] hopefully y'all can come out and have

[58:12] fun with us

[58:14] anyone have any questions

[58:17] anyone from the council

[58:20] you see I can't walk and I can't run but

[58:22] can I walk fast you can't you can walk fast these angels of

[58:27] Louisiana that's going to be there uh so

[58:30] we'll have running chariots

[58:32] um

[58:32] it's everyone is welcome we are an

[58:35] inclusive organization and that's the

[58:37] reason why we put it on so if y'all come

[58:39] out and see what we're about

[58:42] you know put put it this way the people

[58:45] that we help they're going to put a

[58:46] smile on your face and you're going to

[58:48] walk away crying because they put that

[58:49] smile on your face

[58:50] and how much is the alcohol now we're

[58:53] not selling okay we are not selling so they just giving alcohol away for the

[58:58] running yeah

[59:00] brings people in and showcase part of

[59:02] what Hammond's about and a lot of the

[59:05] businesses in Hammond

[59:07] but we are not selling

[59:10] they usually give out like eight ounce

[59:12] six eight ounce cup

[59:14] okay I'm gonna say this here

[59:16] congratulations and keep being a giver and thank you so much

[59:22] for what you're trying to do for the

[59:23] City of Hammond and the surrounding

[59:25] areas so Devon if you if you go out and

[59:29] walk you'll be able to get the little

[59:30] eight eight ounces

[59:34] help try to cool you off after that

[59:37] understand what you're talking about

[59:39] brother yeah eight ounces ain't gonna be

[59:41] enough for me well you know I got to

[59:44] feel a little fit

[59:46] I don't have water and

[59:49] um uh I'm hoping to hear from the

[59:52] lieutenant governor's office too he

[59:55] might make an appearance we're hoping

[59:58] so

[59:59] um yeah I might have some surprises who

[1:00:01] knows all right thank you thank you so

[1:00:05] much

[1:00:06] make a motion approve second

[1:00:11] councilman Andrews aye councilman David

[1:00:14] material aye councilwoman Gonzalez aye

[1:00:16] councilman Leon aye councilman Wales aye

[1:00:19] resolution number two

[1:00:22] a resolution to authorize the mayor to

[1:00:24] enter into a contract on behalf of the

[1:00:26] City of Hammond with BFI Waste Services

[1:00:29] LLC DBA Republic Services of Baton Rouge

[1:00:33] in the estimated amount of 65

[1:00:37] 377.19 Janice swallow good evening good

[1:00:41] evening Jen um this is our annual uh

[1:00:44] front-end related dumpster services that

[1:00:47] is for our buildings

[1:00:48] um

[1:00:49] the current contractor BFI declined to

[1:00:52] renew at their current rate that they

[1:00:54] had bidded on last year so we opted to

[1:00:56] put a new RFP out we have four proposals

[1:00:59] they came in again as the lowest

[1:01:01] proposal as you see I put estimated cost

[1:01:05] of 65 377 19 cents Because the actual

[1:01:10] rentals for all dumpsters will be 58

[1:01:13] 467.35 cents we had to estimate the

[1:01:16] tonnage for a 190 roll-offs which we

[1:01:18] have two of I did it on the high end and

[1:01:21] that's where I came up with a figure of

[1:01:22] 65 377.19

[1:01:27] so for council's approval to move

[1:01:28] forward

[1:01:30] John I have a few questions uh

[1:01:34] the city hall we'll go we'll let you go

[1:01:36] down the list okay the city hall the

[1:01:39] first one

[1:01:40] okay I understand that the five central

[1:01:42] the second one I understand that the

[1:01:45] food pantry explained it to me

[1:01:50] can you explain

[1:01:53] that's a partnership that we have had

[1:01:55] for many many years I don't I don't know

[1:01:57] how far back that goes in terms of

[1:01:59] bidding out the dumpsters since you've

[1:02:01] been here

[1:02:04] okay because and I'm glad you said that

[1:02:06] Miss Lacy the partnership

[1:02:08] uh with the non-profit

[1:02:11] and I'm one of the ones voted to uh go

[1:02:14] vote against it giving out money

[1:02:17] and and this is why I'm bringing this up

[1:02:19] we talking about the garbage rates

[1:02:22] but I hope I'm not gonna have a notice

[1:02:25] this we talking about the garbage race

[1:02:27] for the resident but yet we turning

[1:02:29] around about to give money away on

[1:02:31] something else uh

[1:02:33] so since I got you miss Lacey on Pecan

[1:02:36] Street what's what's going on there

[1:02:38] that's our building maintenance facility

[1:02:41] okay uh

[1:02:45] 190 two times per month

[1:02:48] is it any way that we can cut back on it

[1:02:51] or what

[1:02:52] we actually did change that up we had to

[1:02:54] roll off with three dumpsters and we

[1:02:56] took the three dumpsters off and

[1:02:58] increased the roll-off to cut the cost

[1:03:00] of that actual facilities pricing

[1:03:04] the senior citizen

[1:03:07] where is that at what is that the

[1:03:09] Council on Aging page six yeah no no I

[1:03:11] see but I'm sure I'm trying to under

[1:03:13] um location wise yeah okay yeah okay okay now the counseling agent

[1:03:20] agency not we're giving them money

[1:03:23] already so and we gotta pay that garbage

[1:03:26] bill

[1:03:28] we're giving them money

[1:03:30] already

[1:03:32] because see what I'm trying not to do is

[1:03:34] and I got to say uh

[1:03:37] I'm trying not to get nothing cut in

[1:03:38] District three that's what I'm working

[1:03:40] on

[1:03:41] so do we have a garbage bill

[1:03:51] complicated too if that's

[1:03:55] sewer plant fragrant Drive uh

[1:03:59] is it anyway we can cut that back

[1:04:03] Mondays and Thursdays

[1:04:06] I would have to ask the bordering

[1:04:09] superintendent

[1:04:10] um guy pal Palermo I know they out there

[1:04:13] majority seven days a week I really

[1:04:15] don't know what actual

[1:04:17] garbage that they bring in tonnage wise

[1:04:19] but that is something we can ask about

[1:04:27] that is the dumpster that's out there by

[1:04:28] the swimming pool in the skate park and

[1:04:30] I know that the rec center yes they

[1:04:33] Recreation all them bring fire

[1:04:35] department on the other side bring their

[1:04:37] trash and don't think that is used

[1:04:39] now watch it now because we got the fire

[1:04:42] department on here too we have multiple

[1:04:43] fire departments yeah

[1:04:45] okay

[1:04:47] the police training

[1:04:50] that's once a week and it's a small

[1:04:52] dumpster

[1:04:57] alleyway

[1:04:59] that one were reimbursed for by the

[1:05:02] People by the business owners there so

[1:05:04] the business owners throughout Morrison

[1:05:06] alley all pay for that dumpster

[1:05:10] through their water bills instead of

[1:05:12] carrying separate trash they pay for the

[1:05:14] dumpster

[1:05:18] so if they paying for the dumpsters

[1:05:23] that one that one is a is a budget wash

[1:05:25] I would say because we get the money

[1:05:28] they get charged the money for that to

[1:05:31] pay for that dumpster

[1:05:32] we just decided to put a dumpster there

[1:05:35] because we had so many issues with trash

[1:05:37] being back there and not being collected

[1:05:39] properly

[1:05:40] because there's three restaurants on

[1:05:42] that same block right there

[1:05:44] okay because this is what I'm looking at

[1:05:46] Miss Lacey and you helped me out

[1:05:49] when I'm riding downtown I see any

[1:05:51] garbage trucks downtown picking up

[1:05:53] garbage so

[1:05:55] should nobody have to put garbage out in

[1:05:57] the front if we're going to do this sale

[1:05:59] right I'm asking you mean if we if we

[1:06:03] didn't have the dumpster yeah if we

[1:06:06] didn't have the dumpster there would be

[1:06:08] massive amounts of trash and more finale

[1:06:10] because there's three restaurants on

[1:06:12] that block alone

[1:06:14] yeah okay well what I'm saying they

[1:06:16] can't they have more trash than could

[1:06:18] fit in in like the the carts the hand

[1:06:21] carts okay so can I see uh

[1:06:26] maybe this week where we making sure

[1:06:29] that the city that they actually paying

[1:06:31] for their garbage fees Okay so

[1:06:35] let's see what else I have on here the

[1:06:37] fire department they good because what

[1:06:39] I'm saying I'm looking at how much money

[1:06:40] we spending on the Alice and the garbage

[1:06:43] fees

[1:06:46] and so what we look like we're going to

[1:06:49] take off uh there's something that we

[1:06:51] need to talk about now or uh take it off

[1:06:54] because the senior citizen we're giving

[1:06:55] them money already how much money we get

[1:06:57] him every year

[1:06:59] I believe it's sixty thousand sixty

[1:07:02] thousand

[1:07:03] so

[1:07:06] yeah it's for the bus service 60 000

[1:07:08] just for them to you know do what they

[1:07:10] want it's 60 000 to operate the city bus

[1:07:14] so that the alleyway uh Alleyway Kate

[1:07:18] Street uh that one right there is

[1:07:22] that one is where's that which one's

[1:07:24] that behind that's the same way so the

[1:07:26] alleyway is behind um well they get the

[1:07:28] one behind tacos and beer and all that is that's one of them is that uh

[1:07:32] Alleyway Kate or alloy Thomas because

[1:07:34] that'd be Thomas should be right

[1:07:36] Morrison alley is the one behind uh

[1:07:38] tacos and beer okay my mom's the other

[1:07:42] one is across the street from her across

[1:07:46] Cyprus is the entrance to that back

[1:07:49] alley yeah so it Services

[1:07:51] um the Luna coffee place the other side

[1:07:55] I gotcha in fact I don't think it's Luna

[1:07:57] I think it's

[1:07:59] um topala participates in that one uh

[1:08:02] this the cafe the coffee shop the

[1:08:07] two bars I think both participate I know

[1:08:10] for sure one of them does

[1:08:12] that again is a is a budget wash because

[1:08:16] it's charged to the customers

[1:08:18] for that dumpster

[1:08:25] that was my only concern

[1:08:29] thank you

[1:08:32] anyway at those dumpsters that we have

[1:08:34] like with the regular contract like put

[1:08:37] them all to where like

[1:08:39] you know waste Waste Pro would be with

[1:08:42] Waste Pro like why wouldn't we have at

[1:08:44] some point in time bidding them all out

[1:08:47] with you know the same company to see if

[1:08:49] it would have been a better rate like

[1:08:50] what uh why is it separate instead of

[1:08:53] letting them bid out services that we

[1:08:56] request and this is a front end loader

[1:08:58] um well I'm just saying that some of

[1:09:00] these companies offer both gear doesn't

[1:09:02] offer yeah but I mean some of them do

[1:09:05] like yeah it's Pros on here so that's

[1:09:07] what I was saying but they're bidded out

[1:09:09] separately like what I'm saying is the

[1:09:10] contract for the regular garbage pickup

[1:09:13] is usually comes before the dumpsters

[1:09:16] around like I just would I would have

[1:09:19] thought that it probably better to

[1:09:21] probably bid them out together and then

[1:09:24] the ones who only do those just put them

[1:09:26] in the mix of bidding and out and then

[1:09:28] the ones that do both let them do both

[1:09:30] so that's what I'm getting at because

[1:09:32] some of these companies that do both

[1:09:34] they may have been able to give a better

[1:09:36] rate if they offer both

[1:09:39] at the time of negotiating uh that's a

[1:09:43] question I could just ask in

[1:09:44] consideration to see if yeah it affected

[1:09:46] the price yeah I was just curious on

[1:09:48] that because I'd imagine this it would

[1:09:50] have been nice to just bid them all out

[1:09:52] of the same same time when we do garbage

[1:09:55] and and rollaways

[1:10:02] I wonder if I have any questions

[1:10:08] it's just a lot of discussion about

[1:10:11] non-profits and things the food pantry

[1:10:13] that's thirty two hundred dollars a year

[1:10:15] for their garbage and the Council on

[1:10:17] Aging

[1:10:18] thirty two hundred dollars a year for

[1:10:20] their garbage those were the two

[1:10:23] quote unquote non-profits for you to pay

[1:10:26] their garbage

[1:10:34] and Jan I guess what I was getting at I

[1:10:37] was just trying to figure out if there

[1:10:38] was a reason why I like that I don't

[1:10:40] know but that was it so it may be a

[1:10:42] reason why they did it separately like

[1:10:43] that or at timing or whatever so that's

[1:10:45] kind of what you know if you get a

[1:10:46] chance just see what I was curious it's

[1:10:49] just really how the contracts previously

[1:10:51] fell out the trash for a decisions

[1:10:52] usually their pricing and do they do

[1:10:54] long do they do longer contracts in a

[1:10:56] year

[1:10:57] yeah they have often up to three years okay

[1:11:05] so

[1:11:07] anyone else

[1:11:14] yeah how we're gonna do about those

[1:11:16] non-profits in there so will we take

[1:11:18] that out or what how we gonna do this

[1:11:21] could the administration ask them to pay

[1:11:25] their bill pay a bill

[1:11:28] okay that's if the council doesn't want

[1:11:30] to pay for garbage for these two

[1:11:31] non-profits it could be like these

[1:11:33] residents and restaurants who reimburse

[1:11:35] the city since we're obviously going to

[1:11:38] have a better rate that would help out

[1:11:39] these non-profits so that um this and

[1:11:42] then and then kind of another

[1:11:44] prove it and just send them a bill yeah

[1:11:46] we could just I mean we can just

[1:11:48] send them if that's the council's

[1:11:50] decision we can just

[1:11:52] send them the invoice for that amount on

[1:11:55] their water and sewer bill

[1:11:57] and with them do a second resolution

[1:11:59] saying the council wishes YouTube and

[1:12:02] make a removal

[1:12:05] and

[1:12:06] I guess we'd make a motion to prove that

[1:12:09] this would

[1:12:12] um I think we definitely need to say

[1:12:13] something about what we're going to do

[1:12:15] with that so I mean maybe just vote vote

[1:12:18] uh you know to to remove

[1:12:22] those two items and make up another one

[1:12:24] and make another one after saying that

[1:12:26] you know make a motion to I'm not making

[1:12:28] this motion because I don't agree with

[1:12:29] this but I make a motion to approve

[1:12:31] these bids um and

[1:12:34] Council Council on Aging in their water

[1:12:36] bill well I think if you could do that

[1:12:38] you need to include all they're already

[1:12:41] done doing that they're redoing that but

[1:12:43] we're not stating that is it stated

[1:12:45] anywhere

[1:12:46] see what I'm saying I mean if we're

[1:12:48] going to clean it up clean it up yeah I

[1:12:49] think there's some conditions or you

[1:12:51] know if you want to prove it with a

[1:12:54] condition what a condition

[1:12:56] all non-city entities must be billed on

[1:12:59] their water bill yeah

[1:13:05] so that's the motion so what was the

[1:13:07] motion I don't know if somebody needs to

[1:13:08] make the motion it's not my motion

[1:13:11] okay

[1:13:13] that all none City

[1:13:16] entities

[1:13:19] receive a monthly bill for their trash

[1:13:22] to dumpster

[1:13:25] on their water bill

[1:13:28] second

[1:13:30] and and we are entering into the

[1:13:32] contract a motion to approve maybe the

[1:13:34] language as stated on the agenda

[1:13:41] and Anne and we enter in

[1:13:45] so how many votes do we have well so we

[1:13:48] don't we don't even have them the way

[1:13:51] it's going to be styled is a motion to

[1:13:52] approve the contracts and include that

[1:13:54] all non-city entities must pay their fee on their water bill

[1:14:01] the first part is to approve the

[1:14:02] contract which is what's in the agenda

[1:14:05] right

[1:14:08] is that your motion kit yes

[1:14:15] uh councilman Wells second did it

[1:14:21] 'll be knowing what to do in the lawyer

[1:14:23] not around huh I see it's getting it's

[1:14:26] getting important now to have uh no

[1:14:29] assistant

[1:14:30] that's true I ain't talking about you

[1:14:32] I'm saying we don't quite know we don't

[1:14:34] quite know it's right

[1:14:36] because we don't have no we don't have

[1:14:38] the opinion of the lawyer so we don't

[1:14:40] know

[1:14:41] and when certain laws talk it scared me

[1:14:44] because I'm thinking oh lord it's gonna

[1:14:46] be too good now

[1:14:49] so how did that resolution read did you

[1:14:52] get it written down no okay get it

[1:14:54] written down the way that you said all

[1:14:56] of the wording but I'll go back and

[1:14:57] listen to it but basically you approve

[1:14:59] the the resolution on the on the agenda

[1:15:02] as it is which with the with changes to

[1:15:05] all non-profit entities receiving a bill

[1:15:08] something like that all non-city yeah

[1:15:11] that's what I have non-city entities

[1:15:13] receiving a bill

[1:15:17] no it's only one vote it's all one

[1:15:19] resolution

[1:15:23] councilman Andrews aye

[1:15:26] councilman divitario aye councilwoman

[1:15:28] Gonzalez aye councilman Leon aye from

[1:15:31] councilman Wells

[1:15:32] aye

[1:15:33] I just want to make a little comment is

[1:15:35] that you know we got so many big

[1:15:36] contracts like this come up

[1:15:38] be nice you know to just check to see if

[1:15:40] we have the attorney you know if he's

[1:15:43] going to be able to make it or not just

[1:15:45] because some issues like this would be

[1:15:47] you know good if we had I mean garbage

[1:15:49] is a big contract and some of these so

[1:15:52] um I know everybody at their personal

[1:15:54] life and everything but you know it had

[1:15:56] been nice maybe just to put it on the

[1:15:58] agenda when you know he was going to be

[1:16:00] here

[1:16:01] um the City attorney or some

[1:16:03] representative of of his office uh so if

[1:16:07] there was any questions on some of the

[1:16:09] contracts we could we could get that

[1:16:11] addressed uh I think that would be a

[1:16:14] good idea in the future just to kind of

[1:16:16] if there's some some big contract topic

[1:16:18] items to come up I think it would help

[1:16:20] all of us out up here

[1:16:22] yeah thank you

[1:16:25] resolution number three a resolution to

[1:16:28] approve the mayor to enter into a

[1:16:30] contract with the Daily Star as the

[1:16:32] official journal for the City of Hammond

[1:16:34] Louisiana from Feb July 1st 2023 to June

[1:16:37] 30th 2024 Janna swallow

[1:16:41] this is the designation that we do every

[1:16:43] year that is required by the state that

[1:16:45] is uh just basically stating that the

[1:16:48] official journal for the City of Hammond

[1:16:49] will be the Daily Star The Daily Star is

[1:16:51] the only one that's applicable for this

[1:16:53] nothing has changed as in pricing or

[1:16:55] anything from the last several years so

[1:16:57] we're just asking for council's approval

[1:16:59] the three of us into this contract

[1:17:02] any questions or concerns from anyone

[1:17:04] from the public

[1:17:05] [Applause]

[1:17:07] anyone from the council Pledge of the

[1:17:09] council

[1:17:11] second

[1:17:15] councilman Andrews aye

[1:17:18] councilman divitarian aye councilwoman

[1:17:20] Gonzalez aye councilman Leon aye

[1:17:22] councilman Wells

[1:17:23] aye thank you Jen

[1:17:26] resolution number four

[1:17:29] a resolution one accepting a 25 000

[1:17:32] Grant from the AARP Community challenge

[1:17:36] to transform Morrison alley and its

[1:17:40] pocket park into a vibrant public space

[1:17:42] and two authorizing a mayor or his

[1:17:45] designee to complete and sign related

[1:17:47] documents Charles barsher

[1:17:50] good evening good evening this is

[1:17:52] actually one that we brought to the

[1:17:53] council at the end of February and we

[1:17:56] were absolutely delighted a couple of

[1:17:57] weeks ago to receive word that we will

[1:17:58] be receiving our grant we had originally

[1:18:01] applied for fifty thousand dollars

[1:18:03] apparently this was the most competitive

[1:18:05] year they've ever had there's over like

[1:18:07] 3 000 grants

[1:18:08] so we're delighted to get 25 000. we're

[1:18:12] going to reduce the scope a bit this

[1:18:13] will probably be more focused on the

[1:18:15] pocket park that's at the end of

[1:18:16] Morrison alley off of Cyprus then the

[1:18:18] whole alley

[1:18:20] and as we kind of come up with some

[1:18:22] ideas we'll be bringing those to the

[1:18:23] council and to the community for for

[1:18:25] input there's no match requirement

[1:18:27] okay

[1:18:29] anyone from the public

[1:18:31] any questions from anyone on the council

[1:18:35] Pledge of the council motion to approve

[1:18:37] second

[1:18:41] Andrews aye councilman divitarian aye

[1:18:44] councilwoman Gonzalez aye councilman

[1:18:46] Leon aye councilman Wells

[1:18:49] aye resolution number five a resolution

[1:18:52] authorizing the purchase of 26

[1:18:54] bulletproof vests for Hammond police

[1:18:57] officers from RSG wholesale at a cost of

[1:19:02] 27 841 under State contract

[1:19:09] 4400-25826 will be made with twenty

[1:19:12] three thousand six hundred dollars

[1:19:14] ninety seven cents okay

[1:19:17] anyone from the public have any

[1:19:18] questions on this item

[1:19:21] Council

[1:19:23] Pledge of the council promotion to

[1:19:25] approve second

[1:19:28] it is in alignment with the State

[1:19:29] offices I know it's a little confusing

[1:19:31] this year the way the calendar fell the

[1:19:33] federal holiday is on Monday so the city

[1:19:36] will be open on Monday but closed this

[1:19:38] Friday June 27th at our next council

[1:19:41] meeting we will be taking up the budget

[1:19:43] hopefully for some final votes our plan

[1:19:46] is to have the Amendments that we went

[1:19:48] through at the budget work session to

[1:19:50] the council by the end of business

[1:19:52] tomorrow so that you can have that list

[1:19:54] again if you have additional we are

[1:19:57] having fireworks for July 4th they are

[1:20:00] on July 4th so the celebration is at

[1:20:03] zimmery park we usually start around

[1:20:05] five o'clock with different food vendors

[1:20:07] and adeatables and a climbing wall for

[1:20:09] the kids and lots of fun so

[1:20:11] Lacey will we adjust the budget with an

[1:20:14] amendment showing the removal of the

[1:20:16] revenue so we can expect an amendment we

[1:20:18] will do okay yes

[1:20:22] any accountable reports

[1:20:24] yes

[1:20:28] the kids

[1:20:31] all the young people are killing one

[1:20:33] another

[1:20:35] we protecting everybody

[1:20:37] but we're not protecting the kids

[1:20:43] we need to sit down

[1:20:48] come up with something with the police

[1:20:51] department

[1:20:53] the city councilman the city

[1:20:55] Administration

[1:20:57] everybody that got killed

[1:21:00] it affected my community and I know the

[1:21:03] people

[1:21:04] either they killed somebody or somebody

[1:21:06] that got killed

[1:21:08] and what we don't realize

[1:21:11] is happening in my community today

[1:21:14] but tomorrow can affect your community

[1:21:16] so

[1:21:18] we see what's going on in New Orleans we

[1:21:21] see what's going on in Baton Rouge at

[1:21:23] one time the city could say we never had

[1:21:26] nobody get killed in Hammond we never

[1:21:28] had nobody get killed in Hammond

[1:21:30] the gun violence is out of control

[1:21:34] the news station called me yesterday

[1:21:38] about the last person got killed in

[1:21:40] Hammond

[1:21:41] and

[1:21:43] I'm not going to talk about nothing that

[1:21:45] I don't know nothing about

[1:21:47] but

[1:21:49] we as the citizens

[1:21:51] we as the people

[1:21:55] we need to sit down and talk

[1:21:57] if it's going on in my neighborhood

[1:22:00] eventually they're going to come to your

[1:22:02] neighborhood and just like we talk about

[1:22:04] the open yard

[1:22:06] that didn't affect the blacks

[1:22:08] but we talked about it and we voted for

[1:22:11] Stuff

[1:22:13] we sued companies

[1:22:15] nice in my community

[1:22:18] I want to hear these same conversation I

[1:22:20] want to hear these same laws let's talk

[1:22:23] about this

[1:22:25] it hurts

[1:22:27] that's what I come up here for

[1:22:30] true and it's sad

[1:22:32] a couple months ago it was in Martin

[1:22:34] Luther King Park

[1:22:37] now

[1:22:38] it's up around the University

[1:22:42] and it's so much taking place that we

[1:22:44] don't even hear about it that is going

[1:22:47] on

[1:22:48] the four-wheelers the dirt bikes

[1:22:51] everything I talk about

[1:22:54] is taking place

[1:22:56] when that four-wheeler kills somebody

[1:22:58] that looked like you

[1:23:00] when that dirt bike killed somebody with

[1:23:02] the rules right now community

[1:23:04] we see

City of Hammond, LA - City Council Meeting - June 13, 2023

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