[0:00] Well, ladies and gentlemen, to the May 21st meeting of the City of Payfield's Design and Review Committee meeting, our meeting is called to order.

[0:17] I'd like to start with an introduction of our committee members. We'll start with Greg this month.

[0:22] I'm Greg Morgan.

[0:24] Jackie Smith.

[0:26] Lynn Patterson.

[0:27] I'm Jonathan Lowe, the Chairperson.

[0:29] John Stowley.

[0:31] Secretary.

[0:32] Sophie is a new member.

[0:35] Sophie's mic is hot, but thank you so much for your service. We appreciate you.

[0:41] And our first agenda item, welcome everyone, it's been a few months.

[0:48] Happy to be back together, is the election of officers.

[0:55] So, we have two positions. Is there a nomination for someone to serve as Secretary?

[1:05] Mr. Chairman, I nominate Jackie Smith.

[1:09] 30 seconds.

[1:11] I'll fuck you back.

[1:13] Any other nominations?

[1:15] She knows.

[1:17] She's already taking notes.

[1:21] All in favor of Jackie Smith, Senator Secretary, read right in.

[1:26] Passes.

[1:28] Oh, yeah.

[1:30] I will, from henceforth, request to be called Madam.

[1:38] I will not respond to anything else.

[1:43] My secretary.

[1:45] Yes, all right.

[1:48] Passes.

[1:50] Any nominations for Chairman?

[1:56] Mr. Chairman, I nominate Jonathan Lowe.

[1:59] I'll second.

[2:01] All in favor, raise your hand.

[2:03] Passes.

[2:05] Thank you both, and good luck.

[2:11] Okay, the last meeting we mentioned was from December.

[2:15] We have approval of the minutes.

[2:17] So next agenda items.

[2:19] If we have a chance to review those, these comments are corrections.

[2:23] Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion.

[2:25] If there's a problem, it is number 18, 2024.

[2:29] Is there a second?

[2:31] I'll second that.

[2:33] All in favor, raise your hand.

[2:35] Passes.

[2:37] Oh, Jackie, you...

[2:40] Mr. Chairman, I'll second that.

[2:45] I'll second it, please.

[2:48] I'll second that.

[2:50] Okay.

[2:52] We have a one-business application for 3966 at Dogwood.

[2:57] Requested to be tabled until next month,

[3:00] or until they can submit revised drawings.

[3:03] So our first application is in Elevates Change

[3:06] for 558 Woodrow Avenue.

[3:09] We haven't met in a while, but if the applicant is present,

[3:13] can you come up to the podium, please?

[3:15] Just talk us through the revisions.

[3:18] Oh, my God.

[3:25] Hello.

[3:27] Okay, so the original application,

[3:29] to me, uh, plan had, um,

[3:32] it was really south of the corner of the kitchen,

[3:35] but with architecture,

[3:37] she didn't think it helped her to be exhausted.

[3:39] So when the contractor over there

[3:41] is looking at it, he ever moves the window,

[3:43] because we have to put the exhaust to there.

[3:45] Okay.

[3:49] Dr. Patterson, any feedback on, uh,

[3:51] from a planning standpoint?

[3:53] No, I think there's another window as well in the rear.

[3:55] That's right.

[3:57] In the rear window that was building in?

[3:59] There's not first story on the second story.

[4:02] Yes, it's still there.

[4:04] Oh, it is still there.

[4:06] In the back side?

[4:08] I had the, uh, drawings

[4:11] show that there was going to be

[4:13] a second window on the second story

[4:15] in the rear insulation of a window.

[4:17] Oh, I think that was a shower window.

[4:19] He had put a full-size window

[4:21] and a shower in the back of his.

[4:23] Oh, this lighting window.

[4:25] So we're revising that window

[4:27] and building it into what we're doing today.

[4:29] Um, so we're, um,

[4:31] the change in the window

[4:33] does not adversely affect the fenestration calculation,

[4:35] or I think it's the rear one

[4:37] that's not accessible from time to time.

[4:39] Right away.

[4:41] Okay, it's perfect.

[4:43] Any questions if you'd like to come to the committee?

[4:47] Right here, and then we'll take a motion to approve.

[4:49] I'll make a decision to approve the plan.

[4:51] I'll say it.

[4:53] All in favor, raise your hand.

[4:55] That's 5-0.

[4:57] Thank you so much.

[4:59] Thank you.

[5:09] Uh, I'm going to make a motion

[5:11] to table 558 Woodrow Avenue.

[5:13] Nope.

[5:15] Okay.

[5:17] 3166 Dogwood Drive.

[5:19] Okay, I'll second.

[5:21] All in favor, raise your hand.

[5:23] That's 5-0.

[5:25] In our application, um...

[5:27] Sorry, can you table it to date?

[5:29] Do you have a date, sir?

[5:31] No, June 18.

[5:33] Did you say that already?

[5:35] No.

[5:37] I'm just going to take care of him

[5:39] that last motion reflect.

[5:41] Uh, tabling to June 18.

[5:43] Yes.

[5:45] Thank you.

[5:47] Please come up to the front.

[5:49] This is an application

[5:51] for the approval of the addition

[5:53] of several panels

[5:55] at 329 Mabel Street.

[5:57] Good evening.

[5:59] How are you?

[6:01] Excellent.

[6:03] So, these are all, um...

[6:09] proposed to be

[6:11] alongside of a structure

[6:13] that aren't facing the street?

[6:15] Yeah.

[6:17] Can you just give us a...

[6:19] Yeah, that's right.

[6:21] So, there will be some

[6:23] on an existing

[6:25] um...

[6:27] the additional structure

[6:29] that's in the backyard.

[6:31] There is an install by the

[6:33] um...

[6:35] by the house.

[6:37] Um, and

[6:39] there is

[6:41] additionally

[6:43] there's a lot

[6:45] uh...

[6:47] that is part of the plan

[6:49] to not hit it.

[6:51] No, you don't.

[6:53] Okay.

[6:55] To also

[6:57] cover where panels

[6:59] um...

[7:01] also towards

[7:03] the rear house,

[7:05] there's a lot of

[7:07] uh...

[7:09] that might be

[7:11] somewhat baseball.

[7:13] What does that mean?

[7:15] There is a fence.

[7:17] The fence is

[7:19] um...

[7:21] uh...

[7:23] 60 feet.

[7:25] 60 feet?

[7:27] Um, the approval would be

[7:29] above

[7:31] 60 feet.

[7:33] So, the program is 70 feet.

[7:35] That's all right.

[7:37] That's accomplished at the right.

[7:39] Um...

[7:41] I believe so.

[7:43] It's a...

[7:45] It's just a ground mountain.

[7:47] You're not having people go underneath it, right?

[7:49] It's just a ground mountain.

[7:51] You're calling it a pergola

[7:53] but it's not something where someone

[7:55] would be standing under it.

[7:57] It's not that.

[7:59] There is a walkway through there.

[8:01] There is a

[8:03] there is a

[8:05] door, a gate

[8:07] a fence.

[8:09] That particular area.

[8:11] And that would be that

[8:13] so people would walk.

[8:19] Is there a slide pool?

[8:21] Um, there it is.

[8:23] So, on

[8:25] so the community of PG2

[8:27] um...

[8:29] Is that okay?

[8:31] Sure.

[8:33] Um, we have a

[8:35] similar section

[8:37] in our developing code.

[8:39] And it does allow for...

[8:41] There are shingles basing the

[8:43] right away on the front of the house

[8:45] and you can see that

[8:47] on the page.

[8:49] That's okay.

[8:51] That's okay.

[8:53] Thank you.

[8:55] Thank you.

[8:57] The PG

[8:59] does not page number.

[9:01] So, you can see

[9:03] that the house is to the right.

[9:05] So, there will be one, two, three,

[9:07] four, five, six, seven, eight,

[9:09] nine, ten panels

[9:11] on the front of the house.

[9:13] Um, there are two

[9:15] to the east

[9:17] on one of the first able

[9:19] two toward the rear.

[9:21] Um, three on the shed

[9:23] and then there are

[9:25] 15 on the pergola that is being proposed

[9:27] which is partially

[9:29] obstructed by the house, right?

[9:31] The wait's laid out.

[9:33] It sits behind the

[9:35] right of the house.

[9:37] And it is fairly far.

[9:39] It's not right up against the fence

[9:41] where there's a six-way fence.

[9:43] No, I mean it is a little bit

[9:45] a little bit behind, yes.

[9:47] Um, so

[9:49] any time

[9:51] according to

[9:53] our code

[9:55] if it becomes problematic

[9:57] in front of some solar panels on the front,

[9:59] if you acquire it basically

[10:01] uh,

[10:03] positioning of the house, orientation of the house

[10:05] and this body can do that.

[10:07] Um, it is a combination.

[10:09] I've worked with them

[10:11] to try and figure out the best way

[10:13] to be able to

[10:15] utilize solar in this fashion.

[10:17] I think we're able to support

[10:19] the solar.

[10:21] And there is a commissioning

[10:23] um, statement about what

[10:25] would happen if

[10:27] whether you're no longer useful

[10:29] or you're moveable.

[10:31] Um, and again, from

[10:33] our code states that

[10:35] you're not supposed to see the ground amount

[10:37] array, which is the pergola.

[10:39] And the pergola does not count against

[10:41] the number of just this body.

[10:43] It does not count against the number of

[10:45] accessory structures. So that was

[10:47] an important, it's normally wouldn't be able to have a second

[10:49] shed and a busy boat, for example.

[10:51] Um, but this

[10:53] again,

[10:55] it's located to the

[10:57] behind the draught, there's a

[10:59] driveway, there's a fence,

[11:01] there's part of the house, and then

[11:03] the array is toward the back

[11:05] pergola array. So I don't

[11:07] from a planner's perspective, I don't see it

[11:09] being, you know, um,

[11:11] I don't

[11:13] anticipate the aesthetic would be made of the effect.

[11:15] So, staff recognition.

[11:17] Staff finance is compatible

[11:19] with the zoning code,

[11:21] with the zoning code, and would recommend

[11:23] that you use the zoning code.

[11:25] Thank you.

[11:27] Yes, I can, yes, you know, it's

[11:29] preferred to not be on the front,

[11:31] but when the front of the house

[11:33] takes it south.

[11:35] Yeah, it's

[11:37] where you need the panels to be,

[11:39] when it's all destroyed.

[11:41] So thank you.

[11:43] Any, uh, any comments or questions?

[11:45] I mean, it's a pretty long

[11:47] line, I have it pulled up

[11:49] on Street View, and I

[11:51] would doubt that we would,

[11:53] like anyone would notice.

[11:55] Or see the pergola behind the house, yeah.

[11:57] Especially if it's half-hitted

[11:59] by, um, things

[12:01] through the west side of the house.

[12:03] Lots of trees.

[12:05] Yeah.

[12:07] There's a one tree in the front.

[12:09] Oh, on the other

[12:11] property, lining the driveway.

[12:13] Oh.

[12:15] It's like obstructing the view

[12:17] a little bit.

[12:19] Okay, if there are other,

[12:21] um,

[12:23] questions

[12:25] through, um,

[12:27] most of the approval

[12:29] of the application for

[12:31] April 3, 2019 on Maple Street.

[12:33] Uh, I'm most interested

[12:35] in the approval of 329 on Maple Street

[12:37] application.

[12:39] So it's like, I'll say

[12:41] all in favor of your name.

[12:43] That's the best.

[12:45] Thanks so much.

[12:47] Good luck.

[12:49] Thank you.

[12:51] Yeah, very good.

[12:55] Any other

[12:57] items to review?

[12:59] Today?

[13:01] Anything planned

[13:03] for the next month in addition

[13:05] to the table project?

[13:07] Good.

[13:09] We can hear it.

[13:11] We said that I will not be getting it.

[13:13] Sorry.

[13:15] You don't miss me.

[13:17] I will not be in person

[13:19] for either the

[13:21] June or July meeting.

[13:23] I'm sorry.

[13:25] I'm not doing that.

[13:27] I'm trying to do it.

[13:29] I'm not able

[13:31] to call in.

[13:33] However.

[13:35] I'm going to miss you all.

[13:37] That's why I'm here today.

[13:39] Thank you.

[13:41] Thank you.

[13:43] If there's nothing else,

[13:45] our next scheduled meeting

[13:47] is June 18th.

[13:49] Same room.

[13:51] Is there a second?

[13:53] Me.

[13:55] Is that the ice cream?

[13:57] Well, it's not the chair one.

[13:59] Yeah.

[14:01] All in favor stand up.

[14:03] Turn off your items.

[14:05] Thank you.

[14:07] Thank you.

[14:09] So if it's not always this

[14:11] straightforward.

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