September 8, 2026 Commissioner Meeting

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[0:00] The order at 706, let the record show that we all three commissioners are in attendance along with our auditors. They're a verdict in our county administrator to add Charmin. Our attorney won't be here tonight yet. Another commitment he had to be at. We'll start with the claims. We have claims in the amount of $944,000, $10.34. I'd entertain a motion to approve the claims. I'll make a motion to approve. I'll say.
[0:28] We have a motion in second, hall and favour.
[0:31] Aye.
[0:31] Motion carries 3-0.
[0:34] We have prepaid vouchers and e-chicks in the amount of 1 million, 216 thousand, $195.87
[0:41] and entertain the motion to approve the prepaid vouchers and e-chicks.
[0:45] I will make that motion.
[0:46] I'll second.
[0:47] Motion in the second, hall and favour.
[0:49] Aye.
[0:50] Motion carries 3-0.
[0:52] We have no bid tonight.
[0:54] So we'll move on to the new business.
[0:56] We only have one item there.
[0:57] We have Mr. Dustin Sardar. Is that correct?
[1:01] You want to come to the podium?
[1:04] Mr. Sardar wants to speak to the flock cameras and data centers and we're going to give him time to do that.
[1:14] I
[1:15] Do have some
[1:17] Summary, Summary what I'm talking about that printed out for you guys. Okay, right here
[1:20] I didn't know he wanted me to if you want me to use right up there. Okay. Yeah.
[1:33] Thank you
[1:34] Good
[1:44] evening commissioners. My name is Dustin Sardar. I'm a Harrison County resident
[1:48] My background is in cyber security, specifically focusing on secure system design and privacy.
[1:55] I want to thank this board for enacting the one-year data moratorium that was a smart and
[1:59] prudent move that gave our community time to assess the real world consequences of these
[2:05] facilities.
[2:06] Tonight, I urge you to take the next step.
[2:09] Convert that temporary pause into a permanent countywide ban on hyper-steal data centers
[2:14] and pair it with a comprehensive ban on automated license plate reader networks like Flock safety cameras.
[2:23] First, let's look at it closely at the hyperscale centers.
[2:26] When he looked past the slick corporate sales pitch, the actual economic return for counties is completely negligible.
[2:35] These multi-million dollar developments are routinely leveraged state and local incentives for tax abatements lasting up to 50 years.
[2:41] stripping away decades of property and equipment tax revenue, but otherwise fund
[2:45] our schools, roads, and emergency services. In exchange for giving those tax
[2:50] dollars, the county receives only 30 to 50 permanent jobs, most of which are
[2:55] special operation roles transferred in from outside the area. Meanwhile, a single
[3:01] 100 megawatt facility continuously draws another electricity to power 80,000 to
[3:06] 100,000 homes. This is often more than five times the power required for every single household
[3:13] in Harrison County combined. Additionally, handing over millions of gallons of groundwater,
[3:22] strain our regional electric grid and inherit 24-7 industrial noise and low frequency
[3:27] acoustic vibrations under 100 hertz that travels miles through home walls. We sacrifice a quiet
[3:34] That rule character, and vital natural resources for a massive tax-exempt facility that contributes
[3:41] almost nothing back to the local livelihood.
[3:44] Second, we must pair this with a ban on the front-end surveillance network like FLOC
[3:48] Safety.
[3:49] These cameras don't just check for stolen vehicles, they capture complete vehicle fingerprints,
[3:54] including make, model, color, roof racks, bumper stickers on everyday drivers passing without
[4:00] any individualized suspicion.
[4:01] The system actively bypasses 4th Amendment due process under Supreme Court Presidents
[4:07] in the Riley versus California and Carpenter University of the United States, law enforcement
[4:12] is strictly required to follow probable cause and obtain a search warrant before tracking
[4:16] a person's location through their cell phone.
[4:19] Yet network-connected cameras are raised, exploit a regulatory loophole, lodging and profiling
[4:25] continuous physical movements without a warrant.
[4:27] current, probable cause, or individual sufficient.
[4:31] Look right at our local structure,
[4:34] flat cameras are currently operated by the
[4:36] cord and police department within town limits
[4:38] while the surrounding rural counties are rural areas
[4:41] fall under the sheriff's department.
[4:43] Access to the cord and camera feeds has already been
[4:46] granted to outside federal agencies,
[4:48] including the FBI and the US Postal Inspection Service.
[4:51] Whether our residents are driving through town
[4:54] or communicating through the rural county,
[4:56] the moment federal entities query or export that movement data the records are
[5:00] pulled into federal databases subject to federal retention rules by passing
[5:05] both municipal and county oversight entirely. Flux seven-day default
[5:11] retention window is just a smoke screen our local data lives on indefinitely
[5:16] in federal systems. Combine the vehicle tracking with precise GPS location or
[5:21] coordination, coordination, coordinates, harvesting from smartphone apps, and it creates a total
[5:27] tracking ecosystem. Third, consider what this combined grid does to our children and their
[5:34] future children. Today's youth are the first generation growing up with their daily movements,
[5:39] cataloged and digitized. When cameras record them at parks are on their way to school and servers
[5:46] logging their daily routines, we teach them to accept constant monitoring as normal.
[5:52] We have a duty to defend the right to grow up and monitor. Most importantly,
[5:57] these two threats are deeply connected. Hyper-scale data centers are the back-end processing
[6:01] brain, the street cameras, the physical eyeballs. You cannot safeguard our county by stopping one
[6:07] while allowing the other. Under Indiana Code, Home Rule and County Planning Powers,
[6:13] cars, you have explicit legal 40-dack just as Marshall and Cast County have already done.
[6:20] So I respectfully request the work instead of the following actions, instruct a planning
[6:24] commission to the Manhattan County's own ordinance to explicitly ban hybrid scale data
[6:29] centers across all districts, pass the countywide ordinance prohibiting fixed ALPR surveillance
[6:34] systems, including FOC safety, and any similar vehicle tracking technologies on county right
[6:39] right at least in public property.
[6:42] Let's protect our kids, defend our fourth amendment rights
[6:45] and preserve Harris and Kevin.
[6:47] Thank you.
[6:48] Thank you.
[6:49] Thank you.
[6:57] And we'll move on now to County Officials Plan Commission.
[7:02] Let me get in there then.
[7:09] Good afternoon.
[7:10] I am Chris King-Kid,
[7:11] Harrison County Point Commission Administrator.
[7:13] My first stocket, it, or will I have on agenda,
[7:17] is a zone change or zone change.
[7:21] Docket 26056, the applicant owner was Clay Weyden.
[7:27] The subject property was 8194 Tandy Road, Northeast,
[7:32] and Lanesville, Indiana.
[7:34] The current zone is AR.
[7:36] The requested zone is B2 Business.
[7:39] The Harrison County Plain Commission met in a meeting on September 3rd
[7:44] to consider this request for the zoning map amendment.
[7:47] a motion was made to forward this request to the commissioners with a favorable
[7:53] recommendation.
[7:58] Questions for Chris? I don't have an arrow in it. And there was no one at that
[8:03] meeting that spoke in opposition of this, I don't know.
[8:09] That being the case, that
[8:10] entertain a motion.
[8:13] I'll make a motion to approve. I will say motion second all in favor.
[8:18] All right. Motion carries three zero. And then the second thing is the secondary
[8:25] You guys have the copy of that.
[8:27] I don't think you need to.
[8:29] I don't think we signed it.
[8:31] You do sign it?
[8:33] You do.
[8:33] Yep.
[8:36] So you need the emotions.
[8:37] I'm going to entertain a motion to approve
[8:39] signing this secondary flat.
[8:42] Is that what you called it?
[8:43] Yes.
[8:44] I will make that motion.
[8:45] I'll second.
[8:46] I have a motion in the second.
[8:47] All in favor?
[8:48] Aye.
[8:49] Motion carries three zero.
[8:50] Thank you.
[8:54] Next on the agenda is County EMA, Mr. Mike Kerz.
[9:04] Good evening, Mike Kerz.
[9:05] Here's a county EMA. Two items for discussion tonight. First item is continuation of a maintenance agreement with our countywide emergency radio systems.
[9:17] We did adopt the the the annual for the dispatch area for the dispatch radios and so forth. However, there's a second part to that and that is for the rest of the towers within within the county to maintain that emergency services communications.
[9:33] So asking for, to go to the council, which I've already presented for to the council, however,
[9:41] coming back and asking for permission also to continue with an additional for 31269.
[9:49] That would then complete the annual agreement for the radio communications for emergency services.
[10:03] I'm going to make that motion.
[10:05] I will second.
[10:06] Emotion and second.
[10:07] All in favor.
[10:08] I motion carries.
[10:09] Three zero.
[10:10] Thank you.
[10:11] The other item would be to adopt an ordinance.
[10:14] Ordinance would then be to establish a non-reverting fund for the Harrison County and Indiana emergency
[10:22] management.
[10:23] Or Harrison County.
[10:25] emergency management to accept gifts, donations and grants for the disaster relief.
[10:30] This is specifically written for the donations that were received through several different
[10:36] fundraising events for the Lane'sville flooding.
[10:39] And this would just allow us to, we bury written policy and we already have applications
[10:45] and we also have a rubric in which to discern the disbursement of those, then to put all
[10:55] donations into the hands of the people who are affected most by the disaster.
[11:01] Essentially the money is there, you just need to buy a mechanism to disperse it.
[11:04] Yes.
[11:05] And this is non-county money, this is all donations.
[11:09] And all I'm asking is for us to have an ordinance so we can disperse those donations to the
[11:14] folks.
[11:15] Chad, what number are we at on ordinance number?
[11:22] to approve ordinance number 2026-14.
[11:27] I'll make that motion.
[11:28] I'll second.
[11:29] I have a motion in a second.
[11:30] All in favor?
[11:31] Aye.
[11:32] Motion carries 3-0.
[11:34] Thank you, commissioners, for considering that and helping our folks.
[11:37] Thank you.
[11:38] I appreciate all the work you do towards that.
[11:45] Anybody in the audience have any other county business that is not on the agenda?
[11:48] not
[11:53] hearing none, we'll move on to the county engineer.
[12:10] Thank you.
[12:37] Kevin Russell with the Harrison County Highway Department.
[12:41] First item in the agenda is our fiscal year 27 CCMG application,
[12:45] community crossings matching grant.
[12:49] I had discussed this with you previously that we would apply for a
[12:53] countywide resurfacing project again.
[12:56] It will be a smaller project than what we've applied for in the past.
[13:00] We did receive our first lane mile distribution this year.
[13:04] If you look down in the blue colored area of that first spreadsheet, you can see we received $499,671.76.
[13:13] The maximum amount we can receive through the lane mile distribution with the grant program is a million.
[13:20] So that means the maximum amount of the grant that we can apply for is $500,328.24.
[13:28] The area of the spreadsheet there above that shows the roads that we would be applying for with the construction estimates.
[13:35] We have a financial commitment letter that we have to do with each application that is the next one in your pocket.
[13:44] And then we've submitted this before but it's been about five years and there were different commissioners at the time.
[13:49] If you remember the agreements that we do with Endod, we have to have a docu-sign and
[13:55] we've got it set up where you guys authorize me to do it and I have a form for you to
[14:01] reauthorize me so that we have an updated authorization.
[14:04] Just signatures.
[14:06] Yeah.
[14:06] So, if you have any questions, I'll answer those first.
[14:10] If you don't, I would just need you to make a motion to prove these two letters.
[14:16] one is the financial commitment letter and the other is the authorizing
[14:20] signature letter. I'd entertain a motion to approve signing both. I will make
[14:26] that motion. I'll second. Emotion in a second. All in favor? Aye. Motion carries
[14:30] three zero. I did work on the application last week. You know, I've been on the
[14:35] first and I'm about 85 percent down. So once I get this uploaded, I should need more
[14:43] So, not much more than a hour to be done with it.
[14:50] Okay.
[14:53] I'm sorry.
[14:54] Keep a little pain in the start of the exercise.
[15:04] Item
[15:43] two of my agenda is an operation or like an agreement with a mid-america milling company. You may know them by MAMCO. Reach out to them. They're the sub for force construction on a bridge 25 project. The paving limits on the more tender the bridge 25 project. Don't extend all the way to stay road 62 because it's just
[16:08] the bridge project and we've worked with them and the subcontractor for the
[16:13] Paving EMB to coordinate where we're going to with our money outside of the
[16:18] federal aid bridge project go the extra few hundred feet to get out all the
[16:23] way to Stavard 62 and this is just kind of a operation and agreement on how
[16:30] that work will happen. It doesn't include the price. Chris has looked at it and said
[16:35] but it's okay. I was going to see if you would authorize me to sign this for the county.
[16:43] I entertain a motion allowing Kevin to sign this agreement.
[16:47] I'll make a motion. I'll start a motion. Second, all in favor?
[16:51] Aye.
[16:51] Motion carries 3-0. Thank you.
[16:57] Item 3 is our change order for asphalt contract 2026-2.
[17:03] see in our construction finish the workup on this Friday did a great job on the
[17:08] work this included the resurfacing of legal lane and hooptown road the change
[17:14] order is for $7,299 and 53 cents a deduction that makes the final contract amount
[17:22] $239,373 and 97 cents and
[17:30] again I just need you to make a motion to approve
[17:32] that.
[17:35] I will make that motion. I'll second. Motion in a second all in favor. I
[17:41] motion carries 30.
[18:30] Item 4 is related to some sidewalks along Old Highway 11 as
[18:36] you go into the town of Lakonia. I have an agreement with Heritage Engineering related to an
[18:42] on-call services agreement we have with them to do some survey, some layout and some construction
[18:47] plans as probably about 500 feet but the terrain is such that it's going to require probably some
[18:55] modular block retaining wall and some grating. The estimated fee is $21,100. We have some
[19:03] project money that we can use to fund this. If you don't have any questions I would ask you to
[19:09] authorize me to sign this task order. I entertain a motion allowing Kevin to sign this task for
[19:18] I'll make that motion.
[19:19] I'll second motion and second all in favor.
[19:22] Aye.
[19:23] Motion carries 3-0.
[19:25] Thank you.
[19:27] The next item is bridge 43 on St. John's Church Road.
[19:31] I have the final change order for this project.
[19:34] The original contract amount was $327,000.
[19:38] The change order is for $8,619.
[19:41] That makes the final contract amount $335,619.
[19:46] dollars. This is another project that CNR construction did for us. If you haven't
[19:51] driven through that bridge yet, I would encourage you to drive through. They did a
[19:54] great job, really clean, nice work, and got the bridge open ahead of schedule. I
[20:01] know everyone driving from Elizabeth towards Heritage Festival this weekend will
[20:06] probably appreciate the roads being open. I appreciate to work, Marvin. Yes, thank you.
[20:11] and for him to have done had a schedule much appreciated entertain a motion to prove this change order
[20:18] I will make that motion. I'll second.
[20:37] I'm sorry. I went to sleep, didn't I? Motion and second,
[20:42] all in favor. Motion carries 3-0. This was our community crosses project in fiscal year 26
[20:50] and as soon as the checks all clear and I can get copies of the clear checks
[20:55] I'll be close out people work together for in dot
[20:58] items.
[21:19] 6 is for bridge 25 project I mentioned earlier related to the milling and the paving.
[21:25] This is a zero dollar change order and zero time change order related to the use of E5 internal
[21:32] clearing concrete on the project and it's a change order number two. I believe here.
[21:39] here. Yeah, change order number two. And I would just need a motion for you guys to sign
[21:45] that. Okay. I'd entertain a motion to go ahead and sign this change order. I'll make that
[21:52] motion. I'll sign it. Motion in a second. All in favor. Aye. Motion carries. Three, zero.
[22:12] We
[22:24] do expect that project to be completed on or about October 23rd.
[22:29] It's moving along well.
[22:32] Item 7 is Harrison County Bridge number 5752 on Old Highway 337.
[22:39] You had previously approved signing a report of contract final inspection with that we sent
[22:46] the endot.
[22:48] I think our inspection consultant prepared that and endot decided they wanted to send
[22:53] that to us for signature instead of the consultant.
[22:56] So as silly as it sounds, I have the same form.
[22:59] I may have corrected a date on it with something they wanted to change and I was just asking to
[23:04] make a motion to sign this revised report of contract final inspection so I can send
[23:10] this back to NDOT.
[23:11] I'll entertain a motion to approve signing the needed part of transmission or to contract
[23:17] final inspection.
[23:18] I will make that motion.
[23:20] I'll second.
[23:21] Emotion in a second, all in favor.
[23:23] I.
[23:23] Emotion here.
[23:24] 3-0.
[23:53] Item 8 on my agenda is related to the Harrison County Grizz number 56 on Rocky Hollow Road.
[23:58] We have a contract that we have reviewed with United Consulting to design a replacement
[24:04] for this structure.
[24:07] We sent a funding request to the County Council.
[24:09] The County Council has approved that.
[24:11] And I have an agreement here tonight.
[24:14] Again, the amount of the contract is $199,025 being funded from the Kimelin Bridge Fund.
[24:20] And we'd ask for you to make a motion to sign this agreement.
[24:26] They entertain a motion to approve signing this agreement.
[24:29] I'll make that motion.
[24:30] I will second the motion and second. All in favor.
[24:33] Aye.
[24:34] The motion carries 3-0.
[25:35] Here's to the Harrison County Brisbane, number 6-6-7-1.
[25:37] We're on Highway 3-37 in cordon.
[25:40] That project is scheduled for a letting on August 11th, 2027.
[25:47] We are encouraged by endot to have our inspection consultant under contract at least six months in advance of that.
[25:54] And to keep on that schedule we have advertised the request for proposals
[25:58] for the inspection work on this project and the responses the otherwise are due back to us here in Harrison County by noon on October 2nd.
[26:08] I gave you a copy of the RFP and if anyone, if you feel any questions about it from consultants and can't answer them yourself, feel free to send to me and I'll answer any questions they have.
[26:20] Once we get the LLIs in, and if you can split up, I'll be getting with you to score those LLIs and make a selection.
[26:31] Thank you.
[26:43] Item 10 is the New Bridge 171, which has been known as Small Structure 31-18 on Mahoba Throad.
[26:52] This is a structure that's rated.
[26:54] should look that up for I think I mean Martin you remember I want to say spot
[26:57] them. It's got a really low rating on the gravel section of Rehoboth Road
[27:04] between North Rehoboth Road and Old Dan 43 Road. I have a fee justification and a
[27:14] contract proposal from USI consultants. The amount of the contract proposal was
[27:18] $210,250. I've given you copies of that documentation. We don't have the funding in place yet. We have to send an additional request to the council. And that's what I need your help with tonight is to authorize us to send an additional request to the council from our Cuban Bridge Fund for $210,250 for this project.
[27:38] but I'd entertain a motion to send this onto the council for $210,250.
[27:43] I'll make that motion.
[27:45] I'll second.
[27:46] I'll second.
[27:47] And second, all in favor.
[27:48] Aye.
[27:49] Motion carries.
[27:49] Three zero.
[27:51] So that's the second of the three bridge projects we were trying to get started this summer.
[27:55] Bridge 56 that you just signed.
[27:57] This one that we just started the funding process.
[27:59] And then I have a third on Walnut Valley Road.
[28:03] Bridge 24.
[28:04] The only wooden bridge we have in the county.
[28:06] We're getting a proposal from Clark Deeds. I met with them here just a little while ago, and our intent would probably be to fund that out of
[28:13] the Cambridge as well, but just to remind you that it'll be coming down the pipe as well.
[28:17] I intend to get that done yet this year, right? The PE phase, getting that going on.
[28:22] It'll still, the construction on all three of these is off into the future a little bit, but item 11 is personnel issues.
[28:30] We have a leave request from Doug odd.
[28:34] Leave without pay.
[28:35] This is actually back dated.
[28:37] He is back to work now.
[28:39] And I would just ask that you approve that leave request.
[28:41] That you have a copy of there.
[28:44] And entertain a motion to approve this leave request for Doug odd.
[28:47] I will make that motion.
[28:48] I'll second.
[28:49] Motion is second.
[28:50] All in favor?
[28:51] Aye.
[28:51] Motion carries three zero.
[28:53] Thank you.
[28:54] Then we have some administrative reclassifications.
[28:59] we'd ask you to approve. You can't do it in one motion. One would be reclassifying John Smith
[29:05] from large equipment operator to highway crewman and then reclassifying Zach Lane from highway crewman
[29:13] to large equipment operator. Those two gentlemen are basically going to switch positions and
[29:17] entertain a motion to approve both. I will make that motion. I'll second. Motion in a second. All in
[29:26] And then the last item we had was to offer, we'd like you to offer employment to the person we interviewed tonight, Megan Crowder.
[29:36] She would begin as a highway crewman in district one.
[29:39] And she wants two weeks to know where to start something.
[29:42] Yeah, we'll have to, once you make a motion to hire, we'll have to reach out to her and check on our timeline that I would say two to three weeks.
[29:49] No, nothing. It's not entertained emotion into the crew hiring making groceries. I'll make that motion. I'll say
[29:57] Emotion in second all in favor. I
[30:00] And carries three zero. Nelson, you do make a good point. I probably should have asked you when we made the motion on the reclassification to make that effective. This pay period, which started yesterday, or actually today's Tuesday, started Sunday. Yeah. Chad, we need to go through that officially. Go amend the motion to make it official. As long as both one of the party will make that. So I would appreciate it. Thank you.
[30:28] Okay. I think that's all we have tonight. Do you have any questions for us?
[30:35] I do not want to get caught up on your emails.
[30:39] As you can tell, we're not bored.
[30:40] We've got a lot of stuff going on.
[30:41] One or two things.
[30:42] Thank you for everything.
[30:44] All you guys appreciate everything you guys do.
[30:47] Take care of us.
[30:49] Absolutely.
[30:54] Sarah, what have you got for us?
[30:57] I've got one additional that needs to take out a riverboat for $191.
[31:01] $1.28 to say that's a council.
[31:05] There was an error when it was paid.
[31:07] We will be refunded.
[31:08] It's just, I think it's just until we get the money back.
[31:14] So that's a council.
[31:16] It's $1.21.28.
[31:18] Any emotion on that?
[31:19] Yeah.
[31:21] Run that by me one more time.
[31:23] Run that by us one more time.
[31:24] It was a clerical error.
[31:26] We are getting a refund.
[31:28] We have to pay the correct number.
[31:29] So we paid the wrong under their refunding. We need to make the payment to the correct
[31:39] vendor now. When that refund comes, it'll be put back to correct.
[31:42] Okay, yes. I'd entertain a motion doing so. I will make that motion just a little bit
[31:48] repeated. I'll second. Motion in a second, all in favor. I. Motion carries 3-0.
[31:57] And then I have a leave with that pay,
[31:59] I have a plea from the Sheriff's Office.
[32:02] What's your urge?
[32:13] Just before the short.
[32:15] Just know of a number of when you get a Sheriff's Office.
[32:18] You saved a pretty good deal without pay.
[32:20] For four hours, such, so.
[32:23] So I entertain a motion of pruning.
[32:25] Leave without pay for four hours for this.
[32:28] Emklei is a Sheriff's Department.
[32:29] I'll make that motion.
[32:30] I'll second motion in a second. All in favor. I motion carries 3 0 and then I have a title that needs to be signed. We were asked for it from Harrison County State Opera County.
[32:43] We have a resolution 26-10.
[32:50] It's a reciprocal.
[32:53] I don't know if we've received the one back from them yet that entertain a
[32:57] motion to be signing the title and the resolution to 26-10.
[33:02] I'll make that motion.
[33:04] I'll make that motion.
[33:04] Motion to second.
[33:05] All in favor.
[33:06] Aye.
[33:07] Motion carries.
[33:08] 3-0.
[33:15] Nice to meet you want to give a brief description of what that is just so we
[33:18] everybody.
[33:20] Yes.
[33:20] So what it is is we have a, it's an RV that the Sheriff's Department used for many years for a
[33:27] mobile command center.
[33:30] They no longer have a use for it. It still has some minimal life in it and rather than putting in surplus option and getting
[33:38] pretty much nothing for Crawford County has a use for it. So we're going to
[33:44] give it to them essentially.
[33:45] What?
[33:54] Chad, did you have anything else?
[33:57] We have had an additional river boat, additional infrastructure
[34:12] that amount of $48,646,77,
[34:16] revenue sharing that amount of $900,000, $900,000, $900,000, $400,000, $400,000, 96,000,
[34:23] not the emotion for the council.
[34:27] Fleet redid to me one more time.
[34:28] If
[34:31] the structure in the amount of 48,000, 646.07,
[34:37] revenue sharing, 903, 426.96.
[34:43] Entertain a motion to approve both of those.
[34:47] I'll make that motion.
[34:48] I'll sign it.
[34:49] A motion in a second, all in favor.
[34:51] Hi.
[34:51] Motion carries 3-0.
[34:55] You know what else they had but the resolution
[34:58] There's been your practice. More broad, the one that's for the sheriff's department.
[35:05] There's a trial of something for you all, or interdepartmental transfers of vehicles.
[35:12] Yes he did and they were somewhere you need a reciprocal one from Crawford. I don't think
[35:19] we have yet. Is that what you're talking about?
[35:25] I think it's more than this isn't it?
[35:28] Yeah that's going to be some separate. Yeah I don't know I'm trying to figure out what this one is.
[35:31] I think that's like one part of why I give it to other they come to the commissioner's first
[35:37] Let
[35:41] me go back through my emails and check on that for you
[35:50] Yes, I remember him
[35:52] Yeah, I remember him doing that so I'm not sure what this one is when I'm getting that
[36:00] Yeah
[36:02] All right
[36:03] we'll get that squared away.
[36:08] So at this point or through all of everything we're going to do here,
[36:11] we have a lot of stuff to sign up here and I will be if you're doing that you're welcome to
[36:15] hang around and talk as you want or you go up from the lead.