[0:05] So, did anybody speak? >> No.

[0:12] » Yeah, last night. >> Well, this isn't So, this is an odd

[0:17] start. Usually meetings start at 6:30, start

[0:23] this one back. >> They're all six now.

[0:26] » They're all at six for the village. >> Okay. All

[0:41] right. Could be daylight savings time.

[0:54] » Well, we'll uh we'll start. We'll bring this meeting to order

[1:01] at 60.

[1:05] All right. Pledge of allegiance.

[1:10] Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[1:16] stands nation

[1:22] for all. All

[1:31] right, roll call please. >> Interpreting

[1:36] » here. >> McCanny

[1:38] » here. >> Wendell

[1:40] and Zelfie >> here.

[1:42] » Kikos Hutton

[1:44] » here. Cullis.

[1:48] » Okay. We have a message from

[1:54] motion to excuse. >> Second motion.

[2:01] » Motion second. All those in favor say I.

[2:14] Did we already asked this but inside the

[2:19] meeting? So any information from Mr. Wendle?

[2:22] » No. Any information from Mr. >> No. Okay.

[2:32] Changes in approval of agenda.

[2:39] Motion to approve the agenda. >> I make motion to approve the agenda.

[2:45] » Second by second.

[3:02] All right. All those in favor

[3:08] passes.

[3:12] » Approval of minutes from December 11th, 2025.

[3:19] » Sounds strange already. It's 2025. Seems like a year ago.

[3:23] » Yes.

[3:28] » Still writing 2025.

[3:40] I'll make a motion to accept the minutes.

[3:43] » I'll second it. >> Thank you. So, we have a motion. We have

[3:49] seconded. All those in favor say I. >> I.

[3:52] » I. >> All those opposed?

[3:57] » Good. Motion passes. Statement of Bureau. The purpose The

[4:02] mission of the Holly Historic District Commission is to safeguard the heritage

[4:05] of the village of Holl by preserving the historic district in the village that

[4:10] reflects the elements of the village's history, architecture, archaeology,

[4:15] engineering, or culture. The goal of the commission's work is to stabilize and

[4:20] improve the property values in the historic districts and the surrounding

[4:24] areas, foster civic beauty, strengthen the local economy, and promote the use

[4:30] of historic districts for the education, pleasure, and welfare of the citizens of

[4:36] Holly.

[4:41] All right, moving on to public comment.

[4:47] Seeing none, guess we're just moving on.

[4:53] Okay. Up to old business. Um I have no other information in the

[5:00] package. So I imagine we have no information on these two properties.

[5:03] Application 254 and 252.

[5:09] » Yes. And

[5:17] I I just know like for 208 South Broad you guys had said that they didn't need

[5:22] to come in front of HDC for that. for the wheelchair ramp

[5:27] » and I'm hearing from our side other you guys are supposed to

[5:33] » but

[5:38] issue came up as a clarification question

[5:54] structure came in front of the HDC

[5:59] and now it's a wood structure

[6:06] for an administrative approval even though it's wheelchair. We were just

[6:10] kind of curious question, you know, are we being

[6:15] consistent? Is there a difference between how we're

[6:20] looking and approving things? Those types of questions.

[6:26] » Oh, okay. I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I know it's an

[6:30] ADA issue as well. >> Yeah, it's ADA

[6:35] and we'll So, additions and changes to historic buildings

[6:40] can be done. Additions can be added on to them. Um the only rules are it has to

[6:47] fit within the district's theme and feel, but it can't be made to look like

[6:53] it was old. It needs to be obviously of new

[6:58] materials so that when somebody is walking around the building, uh they can

[7:03] obviously see that this was added sometime after the original construction

[7:08] of building. That's the only rule. Now, it's a wheelchair ramp. So, it's

[7:13] obviously

[7:20] when wheelchairs No, that's 1910. >> Yeah, wheelchair ramps.

[7:27] » So, it's obviously a new a new piece to the structure.

[7:30] The only hope would be that uh they choose one that um is aesthetically

[7:36] pleasing to the community, but there's really not much we can

[7:42] say yay or nay on because it's ADA compliance.

[7:45] It's got a pitch and length and all kinds of different

[7:51] construction. So consistency in the future

[7:58] is a wheelchair something

[8:02] that should be administrative >> that should be administrative.

[8:06] » So wheelchair ramps can be administrative.

[8:09] Yes.

[8:12] And that was approved >> until we approve.

[8:15] » Right. Well, but that was approved not because of match but based on

[8:23] reach that not that it meets that criter

[8:35] any other thing. accepted whatever

[8:42] you >> I don't have it.

[8:45] » So it was originally concrete or

[9:03] » Yes.

[9:06] Oh, wow. We have that. It's nice.

[9:19] » I believe that was in November. Um, and the wheelchair ramp wasn't

[9:24] originally a part of the rebuild. Um, so the concrete um like a

[9:33] concrete landing off the building with some stairs and then they brought the um

[9:39] wheelchair ramp back before us because they were changing their plans. Um but

[9:44] then we said that because it's a compiance issue with ADA that it

[9:48] shouldn't be the historic district that approves it and I had only mentioned

[9:52] that um the swing of the door seemed off to me because it was swinging

[9:58] um out but it would block the ramp. So somebody in a wheelchair wheel out,

[10:04] close the door, and then go down the wooden rail and the if I remember the

[10:09] pictures correctly, it like sort of zigzagged so that it would fit in that

[10:13] spot near that back alley. But um so financially, I don't think um a concrete

[10:22] ramp would even or I don't know, even like for looks, I don't think a concrete

[10:27] ramp the way they have to like zigzag it would

[10:30] » even be very appropriate the

[10:35] » be so I think the the wooden ramp is

[10:39] appropriate and like we said in November that I don't think it's an issue that

[10:44] » well the original plan has for a wood frame for the ramp with TX or timberline

[10:51] composite deck railing or decking surface the handrail will be aluminum so

[10:56] it never rusts that's what's on there

[11:03] I have the photos,

[11:12] » but their plans in September.

[11:25] Nice.

[11:29] Okay. Any other discussions?

[11:44] » We can do it again. >> Send it again.

[11:47] » I'll make a motion to send it back. >> All right. So, we have a we have a

[11:50] motion from Mr. >> I'll second it.

[11:53] » And we have a second. Let's get back up.

[11:59] » Yes. >> Wonderful.

[12:02] » Um, all those in favor >> and all those opposed.

[12:10] » I didn't think I give you a chance to the

[12:18] » No. Okay. >> All right. So, we move on to general

[12:23] business. collection of officers.

[12:28] All right. Um, since we're missing three,

[12:34] I guess there's nobody here to defend themselves. So, uh,

[12:42] should we actually do that? But there's what is so in the villages

[12:48] uh bylaws and or ordinances when do elections of the officers

[12:56] have to be done? Do they call it out in January like they

[13:02] do at the township?

[13:09] » Yes.

[13:13] » Yeah, that was cancelled.

[13:25] January. Yes.

[13:48] I am I have the historic district commission

[13:53] right now or trying to see if it is actually

[13:58] called

[14:18] I do not see

[14:26] nice old fashion used to do this back in the 1900s. Print out all the

[14:43] I'm tempted not to vote on those, but I just want to make sure that we're not

[14:47] going to get into

[14:51] historic commission jail.

[15:03] All right. So while we're doing that,

[15:27] » we have a quorum so we can >> Yeah. Can we delay it one month for a

[15:31] better attendance?

[15:44] Looking to see if I have any training materials.

[16:00] » Robert's rules. >> Mr. I text

[16:05] and I will go back to my ordinances.

[16:34] It's already 5 years old.

[16:41] The only presentations I have on standby is the Michigan Historic

[16:47] Preservation Tax Credit from 2021. you guys find that interesting.

[16:54] » So point of order, we either have to get a motion on the table or motion

[17:01] to proceed with the officers.

[17:09] I'll let me do this. I'll make a motion to

[17:13] uh maintain the all the officers in their current positions.

[17:20] I'll second it. >> Okay.

[17:21] » Okay. >> Now, we can't discuss it properly.

[17:25] » All right. >> So, is there

[17:29] » Well, I checked your record. You did a very good job as secretary last year.

[17:34] Outstanding. Outstanding. Five stars. >> Okay.

[17:39] » No dearits. >> No demarits.

[17:42] » No demerits for you either. >> Oh, vice chair.

[17:45] » That's right. I am vice chair. >> Yeah.

[17:49] All right, we'll we'll upgrade your parking spot any anywhere out there.

[17:56] » And then uh did we have a secretary on deck? Secretary,

[18:02] » survey says, >> "Oh, okay."

[18:08] » All right. Be safe.

[18:15] » Just for review, who were um Who were the

[18:20] » officers last year? >> I was secretary, vice chair. George is

[18:24] chair. >> I don't think we have secretary.

[18:27] » Yeah, I was. >> Well, you're secretary.

[18:29] » I'm secretary. That's all. That's all the officers

[18:35] » because we we do not have a treasure. So,

[18:38] » yeah, we have no budget.

[18:42] » If we had a budget,

[18:48] All right. Any further discussion? >> Um, was Mr.

[18:58] » Well, he can. >> Well, let's ask

[19:01] » he's not here to defend himself. I think we can just

[19:04] » we can just vote >> anyone if if we make the vote and

[19:09] » well he protests >> he can always step down for that office

[19:14] if he's too busy or something else >> you know what I mean anyone can say I'm

[19:20] sorry but you know then we reelect that officer

[19:26] » that position >> I do not wish to hold an officer

[19:28] position so

[19:33] You get a parking spot anywhere else. >> I might have parked in somebody's

[19:38] parking spot because I I have front roll. So,

[19:40] » well, you and I both walk somewhere. So, we give ourselves

[19:45] » You're across the street and I'm two blocks away. So,

[19:51] » what are those? >> Okay. So we have a motion on deck for to

[19:58] maintain the original set of officers for this coming year 2026.

[20:04] » I'll make the motion to um maintain the officers of Mr. Cullis

[20:10] being chair Mr. McCann being vice chair and Mr. Tony being secretary

[20:19] second. All right. All those in favor

[20:24] » I >> I All those opposed

[20:29] hearing motion passes. >> Commission and staff comment.

[20:43] » I do not have a comment. >> No comments. Okay.

[20:45] » No comment. I'll be >> I have a question but I don't know if

[20:51] It's really historic question. Um

[20:57] because I my house is in the historic district I guess. Um you know we had a

[21:05] lot of repairs from tornado damage and this summer we have to finish our last

[21:12] portion of it which is touching up all paint

[21:17] on the whole house. Now am I going to have to

[21:21] like permits for that or does anybody know?

[21:25] » No. >> Okay.

[21:27] » The historic district in Holly does not have a color palette.

[21:31] » Okay. Well, we're keeping the same color because we had just painted it not too

[21:36] long ago, but it just has to have touchups from repairs,

[21:42] so we don't need it. >> Thank you.

[21:47] » Happy painting. I had a company paint house and they're

[21:52] gonna come back. >> Oh, they are. Oh, okay. I was going to

[21:54] say if you need advice, you can call and do a little bit of paint.

[22:00] » Awesome. Well, that's good. It's just wrapping up because usually paint is the

[22:03] last touches. That's awesome.

[22:06] » Yeah.

[22:19] We're still in a battle with ours.

[22:30] » All right, Mr. Chip. >> Well, yeah, comments. Are

[22:34] » you done? >> I was do I think that

[22:39] moving the Union Depot was very positive thing for our community

[22:46] and there was a special for that. But we also as historic district was involved

[22:55] with that. So we helped with the grants.

[23:01] Actually I was on the tri county as a conductor.

[23:06] So >> yeah during one of the main thing the

[23:12] federal because we won the federal uh grant was going on at the same time

[23:19] across the nation and we actually won this part where

[23:24] six figures came to help towards that move. So I think that's good and I also

[23:30] comment on Holly Hotel is that it seems to posted that they are starting to

[23:38] renovate the place. So I think that's positive for the community too. I think

[23:44] that what we see downtown is very important

[23:50] to the history of this community. People don't realize I don't think that

[23:56] the village of Holly when the trains first hit the ground. Uh the richest

[24:04] city in Michigan was Detroit and the second richest city in Michigan was

[24:10] Holl. don't realize that right out at the uh

[24:17] Capo Park is where all the bombers came and sold their goods

[24:22] to people who put him on the train and shipped them across the country

[24:27] from here. So, keeping this intact, that's why I'm on

[24:32] this committee to keep this going community going positive as it can be.

[24:40] So,

[24:43] So I'm I'm really happy with both those outcomes working

[24:48] and I want to open too. >> So it's good too.

[24:55] » Thank you.

[24:59] » I don't have any comments. The depot is is good. The uh it's funny

[25:05] when you go down to where it used to be and you look left you go, "Oh, there's

[25:10] no building there." >> And as you're coming down Broad Street,

[25:13] you go, "Wow, there's a building there."

[25:17] » It does. >> It does.

[25:18] » It doesn't look that big. >> No. Back then, it looks like a little

[25:22] st, >> right?

[25:23] » Um, so it's I think it's a great addition to that spot. There used to be

[25:28] a building there when I first moved here. There was a little antique store

[25:31] on that site. Had no had no water. Two strikes

[25:37] but it did have power but had no water but it was a little antique store and

[25:44] they raised that and now it looks like it's nice. I like the bias of the It's

[25:50] not straight.

[25:54] So hopefully we'll get some more renovation on that. It'll come to life

[25:57] by Dickens Festival next year. I know that they're working on it in

[26:01] stages, but I was just thinking um when you mentioned Tri County Times, um

[26:06] here's an idea. Uh just to get some like promotion of the depot now that it's

[26:11] been moved is to maybe beautify the outside a little bit just with some

[26:15] landscaping by prom because I know that all the kids go to the alley to get

[26:19] pictures and so you know the can be a part of that as far as senior

[26:27] pictures and pictures. if we just like put a little money into I know it's not

[26:31] the historic district but just as a village put a little bit of money into

[26:36] um just making the immediate surrounding of the depot um pretty

[26:45] » uh >> Thursday

[26:47] no we have time um I'll maybe mention this idea to manager

[26:53] I know that he'll like get the right people involved but uh I don't know

[26:58] » usually I think it's >> the end of May, beginning of June

[27:03] because I know that like when the depot was set back,

[27:14] » yeah, when they get it inside is just fantastic. It's really in excellent

[27:20] shape. So when the village gets that going and

[27:24] gets it open to the public, it's going to be a great place for events.

[27:30] » Yeah. >> That we have not had

[27:34] » you know it's going to be fantastic. So >> I took a tour of it one time in the past

[27:44] at least during special events or something.

[27:48] I don't know. I remember it was really neat.

[27:51] » Yeah. Before they had to have the trains blocked

[27:55] » all directions. >> Okay.

[27:57] » For at least eight hours. >> Okay. To go

[28:01] » to be able to go in. That's why it was moved. So now you walk right across

[28:05] Broad Street. >> Okay.

[28:07] » And not cross the track to >> to go in. So

[28:13] » it was also one of the first or the only dual

[28:18] train

[28:22] on each side.

[28:29] » I heard they're going to try to

[28:34] » reape.

[28:51] All right.

[28:57] » There's nothing else. >> I make a motion to

[29:02] dismiss. >> Motion to dismiss the meeting. Any

[29:07] seconds? >> I'll second it.

[29:09] » We got a second. All those in favor?

[29:14] » I motion Meeting adjourned.

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