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AGENDA PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road October 9, 2025 6:30 P.M.
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All right. I'd like to call the meeting of the city of huber heights, property maintenance review board order.
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madam secretary, would you please call the roll? All right,
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ms. Kromer? Here. Mr. Darren? Here. Ms. Hess?
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mr. Roberts? Here. Mr. Vaughn? Mr.
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shack. Man madoff. Here. Mr. Winkler here. And
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I did hear from the other two that they would not be here.
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okay. So if
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there's no objection without objection, I will accept
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the agenda for tonight's meeting. So
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approved. Alright. In accordance to the rules,
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I need to swear in whoever is speaking tonight. Mr. Lar,
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would you raise your right hand? You need to hold
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on. We're gonna back up. I need a motion to approve. Oh, I thought just
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speaking it was good. Alright. I need a motion to approve the agenda
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from july the 10th, or I'm sorry, for this evening,
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I believe we approve the agenda. Okay. I second. Okay. We don't have to
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take a vote. No vote. That's it. Okay. Now in accordance, we
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swear in. Yeah. And I shall ask,
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let's see. Do you hereby swear or affirm on a
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threat of perjury to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god? I
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do. Alright. Thank you.
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alright. And I see there is no pending business. So we'll
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get right into our new business, which is our first
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case. Tonight is pmrb case 25 dash 24.
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property owner gault property holdings. Llc is in violation
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of section 1313 of the property maintenance code at property. Located
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at 57 37 harshman mill road.
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mr. Chairman, thank you. Good evening. Good everyone glad you're here. Good
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evening. Give jerry just a moment to catch up. I really apologize.
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this just isn't working greatly. Yeah. So we're, we wanna make
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sure you get to see the, the photos. Okay.
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property at 5 7 3 7 harshman road is in violation
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of city code pertaining to junk stored on the property under a carport.
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this consists of discarded doors and drywall section
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13, 13 0 4 states. All permissible items stored
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outside must be in good condition and usable as intended
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by the manufacturer. No such items that are broken,
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dilapidated, or discarded shall be stored outside. Inspection,
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verifies the property does not meet the standard set forth in the code, therefore the
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property is in violation. Your attached case review illustrates the
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violation process and non-compliance of the property.
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the city's zoning letter mailed to the owner of record have not been
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returned. There has been no communication from the owner to the code enforcement
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office. Tax records shows property
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taxes are traditionally paid. If declared a nuisance by
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the board, the property will be abated by the city's contractor. Any costs
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incurred by the city will be invoiced to the property owner. Staff
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recommendation is as follows, the board to declare the property a nuisance,
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the board orders staff to have the city contractor abate the property.
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if so ordered, the city contractor will bring the property into compliance by removal
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of nuisance. Alright,
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thank you. Anyone have any questions?
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looks, this is probably a rental home. Not sure sir.
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uh, we assume there's at least been some remodeling
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done, but we're not sure what the status is of the occupant,
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whether it's unoccupied or not. You have anything from anyone in regards to
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this one? No. Nothing.
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alright. Do anyone else have a question?
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entertain a motion please. You, you'll make a motion to
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declare the property a nuisance and have the city abate it.
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I have a second. Second.
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and vote please. Alright. Mr. Darren? Yes. Mr.
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sch mangrove. Yes. Mr. Kromer? Yes. Mr. Roberts?
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yes. Mr. Winkler? Yes. Passes five to zero. Alright.
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motion carries for pmrb case 25 dash 24.
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the next case is pmrb case 25 dash 25.
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wg dome is in violation of section 1313
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of the property maintenance code at property located at 65 38
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glen ivy drive.
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just wanted to let you get a full view of the
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property. So the property at 6 5 3 8
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glen ivy is on via violation of city code
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pertaining to many miscellaneous items stored throughout the yard.
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there is also substantial trimming of vegetation needed.
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the house is unoccupied and apparently visited on rare occasions by the owner
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who now lives elsewhere. This has been a nuisance property for years.
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it has previously been before this board section
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13, 13 0 4 states. All permissible items stored
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outside must be in good condition and usable as intended by the
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manufacturer. New as such. Items that are broken, dilapidated
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or discarded shall be stored outside inspection
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verifies the property does not meet the standard set forth in the code. Therefore the
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property is in violation. Your attached case review illustrates the
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violation process and non-compliance of the property.
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city zoning letters mailed to the owner of record have not been returned.
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there's been no communication from the owner to the code enforcement office.
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additionally, the posting was placed on the front door advising my intent
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to bring the property to this board. The posting is attached
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to the report file. That tax record shows property taxes
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are traditionally paid. If declared a nuisance by the board, the
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property will be abated by the city's contractor. Any costs incurred by the city
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will be invoiced to the property owner. Staff recommendation as
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this follows the board declare the property a nuisance. The board offers
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staff to have the state contractor abate the property. If
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so ordered, the city contractor will bring the property into compliance by removal
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of the nuisance. This will include removal of all items regardless of
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the condition and trimming of all vegetation. Um,
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additionally, I had the zoning officer go by today. There's been no improvement at the
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property. Okay. Okay.
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anyone have a question? Mr.
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lar, can you tell me when the last time it was brought to us?
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you said it's been before, it has been before the board.
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this will be a guess on my, I would say a couple of years ago. Same thing?
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same thing. Pretty much. And, um, yes. And the,
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at that time the owner was living there. There was a language barrier.
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uh, had a zoning officer last year that was working
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with her. He's no longer with us, but trying to
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move her along. Um, she would make some very slight improvements
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to the front yard. Uh, vietnamese
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lady, culturally quite different from us as far as what
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you do in your yard or don't do. Right. And, uh,
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he worked with or to no avail. And uh, we've had a couple
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of very concerned neighbors. One living next door as you can imagine. Right. So
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enough's enough where, you know, we're not even looking to see if the,
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the garden tools that are being stored outside our
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serviceable or not. We're taking everything that's not bolted down.
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is that including the bags of soil I saw on the picture as well, sir. Is
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that including the bags of soil? Soil I saw on the pictures? Yep. Because you're not supposed to
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store anything in the front yard according to our outdoor storage and use
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code, regardless of what it is or what is intended to use sis.
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so we'll take, we'll take everything.
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I was just curious as to, nobody's
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complained for two years or oh no, no. We, I get calls periodically.
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the problem is there would be a little bit of an improvement. The zoning
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officer who was working with her, um,
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I believe gave her too much time. It was too considerate.
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and sometimes you just enough's enough. We're
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we're there that this as a repeat offender so to speak? Uh, yes. Absolutely. Yeah.
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we've been to this property many times. Not this bad
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before. It comes before us. Well we're, we're hoping that since she is
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no longer living at the property, 'cause she had been previously living there,
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um, that once we clear all of this up, clean up all of this yard
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mess, all of the vegetation that we will have this occur again.
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but we'll be watching it, believe me. Okay. Alright. Cool.
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thanks. Anybody else
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have a motion please? I move for the property of nuisance and have staff
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abate it and I second, I'll second that. Okay.
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then we'll have a vote please. Mr. Kromer? Yes.
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mr. Shack. Madoff. Yes. Mr. Darren? Yes. Mr. Roberts?
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yes. Mr. Winkler? Yes. Object to zero five to zero. Motion
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carries for pmrb case 25 dash 25.
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next case is pmrb case 25 dash 26. The
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property owner silver bears real estate is in violation of section 1189
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of the property maintenance code at property located at 76 31
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dash or through 77 77 old troy pike.
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yeah. Mr. Chairman board members of the property also known as
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wayne town za, is in violation of city code as it pertains
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to sign maintenance. The south facade of the old
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troy pike multi-tenant sign that's a large one out by the road
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is so deteriorated that the wayne town letters have actually peeled away from
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the facade. They're also birds living in it. So, uh, section
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11 89 0 4 states every sign whether
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requiring a sign permit or not, shall be maintained in a safe, presentable,
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and good structural condition at all times, including replacement
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of a defective part, painting, cleaning, and other acts
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required for the maintenance of the sign. Inspection verifies
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the property does not meet the standards set forth in the code, therefore the property is
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in violation. Your attached case review illustrates the violation
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process and non-compliance of the property. The attached photo shows
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the deterioration city's own letters mailed to the owner
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of record have not been returned. There has been recent communication
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from the owner of the code enforcement office. The owner's
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representative states they have contracted with a signed company to make repairs,
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but this is after months of no communication nor
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action regarding this violation. The tax record shows
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property taxes are traditionally paid. If declared a nuisance by the
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board, the property will be abated by the city staff. Recommendation
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is as follows. The board declare the property a nuisance. The board orders
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staff to have the city abate the property. If so ordered,
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the city will bring the property into compliance by removal of the nuisance. This
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will involve obtaining quotes from signed vendors to determine the price
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for making the needed repair and moving forward with repairs. Now
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this report was written for last month's meeting. I
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have an update. Uh, the sign face that was there has been removed,
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completely removed. The uh, owner
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has contracted with fast signs, a signed company in
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huber heights. Spoke with them today because I
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had issued a permit for it. And they currently have the production
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done in their, uh, in their building.
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but they have to attach clips because they have to reattach
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the sign panel. So it's ready to go back up as soon as they, everything's
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fastened. And it will be a nicer sign 'cause it'll have led lighting in inside.
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so, uh, what if you would look at it today, you would see
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that panel is gone. The one that says wayne town, it's empty and that's the reason
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why. So there, there in my report.
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so you're saying it's in the midst of being repaired? Yes.
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I talked, talked to the sales rep at, uh, fast signs who I deal with on
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a regular basis. She went back to their manufacturing area and said
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yes, it's back there. We're just waiting for the tip, the clips to
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be attached so we can reattach it to the sign
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once we have the led lighting in place. So
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she's telling me by the end of october it should be in place.
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um, and so my question is, you still want to, your recommendation
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is still declare a nuisance and have it abated when it's in the process or
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do we yes. Would you recommend no? Yes.
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so she told me today we are gonna finish this up when we get
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paid by the, by the customer. She was going to
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contact the customer and verify that the check's in the mail,
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for lack of a better word, I have not heard back from her. So I'm going to go on the
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premise. This is still a violation. This is still in the work. So
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yes. Declare it a nuisance. Order me to have it abated. I'll handle the
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abatement with the signed contractor. 'cause I'm quite certain it's
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going to be taken care of. But I don't think we make an exception to this case just because
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we have a promise of them fixing it. 'cause it's
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not fixed as of the date of the meeting. Okay,
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fair enough. That makes questioning, that makes sense to
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me. Alright, anybody
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else have any questions? Alright, uh,
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question. Okay, you have a motion please.
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I'll make a motion to declare the property a nuisance and to have the city contractor abate
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the property. Alright. And a second. Second,
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and then a vote, please. Mr. Roberts? Yes. Ms. Cromer?
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yes. Mr. Shack. Madoff. Yes. Mr. Darren?
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yes. Mr. Winkler? Yes. All
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right. Motion carries for pmrb case 25 dash 26.
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nick case is pm rrb 25 dash 28
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property owner susan gordon is in violation of section 1313 of the
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property maintenance code at property located at 71 58 mandrake
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drive. Excuse me. Yes sir.
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the property at 71 58 manda mandrake drive is
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in violation of city code as it pertains to exterior maintenance
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of the house. The vacant house has several issues that are abundantly
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clear, falling, softening, deteriorated, garage
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door molding, loose downspouts and mold on the siding
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section 13 13 0 4 states. The exterior of a structure
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shall be maintained at good repair, structurally sound, and san
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sanitary. So as not to pose a threat to the public health, safety, or welfare,
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the owner shall keep the exterior of all premises and every structure there
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on in good repair. All exterior surfaces shall be maintained
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free of conditions, reflective of deterioration or inadequate maintenance.
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maintenance inspection verifies the property does
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not meet the standards set forth in the code. Therefore, the property is in violation.
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your attached case review review illustrates the violation process
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and non-compliance of the property. The attached photo shows negligence
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and deterioration city's owner enter may for the owner
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of record have not been returned. There has been no communication
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from the owner to the code enforcement office. The tax record shows
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property taxes are traditionally pla paid if declared a nuisance by
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the board or the property will be abated by the city. Any costs incurred
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by the city will be invoiced to the property owner. Staff.
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recommendation is is as follows, the board declare the property a nuisance.
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the board orders staff to have the city abate to the property. If so ordered,
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the city will bring the property into compliance. By removable of nuisance,
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the city's contractor will make any necessary repairs to bring the
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property into a proper state of exterior maintenance.
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thank you. Are those windows broken?
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a couple of 'em. Yes sir. Or is it just a reflection? I think it's a combination of, I
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think you have both situations there. Okay.
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any idea if the owner is deceased or not? No idea sir.
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anybody else have any questions?
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alright. I obtain a motion. Please make a motion
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to declare the property of nuisance and have staff abate it. Alright, second,
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second. And vote please. Ms. Kromer?
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yes. Mr. Darren? Yes. Mr. Shack man.
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rob? Yes. Mr. Roberts? Yes. Mr. Winkler? Yes.
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motion carries for pmrb case 25 dash 28.
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next case is pm rrb 25 dash 30. The property owner,
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shirley criswell, is in violation of section 1313 of the property maintenance
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code. The property located at 59 0 1 pennywell
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drive. Yes sir. The property at 59 0 1
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pennwell is in violation of city code as it
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pertains to the maintenance of the landscaping. Specifically
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noxious weeds not being trimmed and removed from the property, particularly along
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the house and fence line's. Looks like that picture might
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be a little over scanned. I can't kidding. Take my word for it.
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the sky's really. There we go. There we go. And go to
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the other side. Jerry, bring the house the other way. I'm sorry other way.
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there we go. Holy goodness. Section
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13 13 0 4 h four states. All land shall be
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properly maintained with lawns, hedges, bushes, trees, and other vegetation
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to be trimmed and kept from becoming overgrown and unsightly. Where exposed to
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public view or such vegetation may constitute a
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lighting influence on adjoining property inspection. Verifies
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the property does not meet the standards set forth in the code. Therefore,
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the property's in violation city's own letters mailed to the owner
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of record have not been returned. There has been no communication to the owner to the code
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enforcement office. Tax records show property
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taxes are traditionally paid. If declared a nuisance by the board,
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the property will be abated by the city. Any costs incurred
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by the city will be invoiced to the property staff. Recommendation
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is as follows, the board declare the property a nuisance. The board orders
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staff to have the city abate the property. If so ordered, the city will bring the
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property in compliance by removal of the nuisance.
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if you have any questions, you may have answered this already, but
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is the property vacant? No. No, no. Just ignored
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all. Any other questions? Anyone?
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alright. Entertain a motion please. I make a motion to
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declare the property a nuisance and have the city abate it. Alright,
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second. Second. Unanim a vote please.
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alright, mr. Shack madoff. Mr. Darren? Yes.
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mr. Roberts? Yes. Mr. Kromer? Yes. Mr. Winkler? Yes.
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motion carries for pmrb case 25 dash
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three zero. Mr. Chairman, I realize
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the same thing gets said over and over and over in these case reviews,
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but for the records, I think we need to, we need to make that
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same statement with each case. That's why you hear the same
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verbiage in each, in each case. So it seems unnecessary, but I
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I think it probably is necessary for legal records. Yeah, I agree.
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alright, next case is pmrb case 25 dash 31.
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the property owner, danny caldwell, is in violation of section
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1313 of the property maintenance code located at property.
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uh, look property located at 62 19 apache street. The
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picture does tell the story here.
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the property at 62 19 apache street is a violation of the city's outdoor
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storage code. Numerous junk and discarded
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items have accumulated on this property. The property has
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been a nuisance for years and has appeared before this board. Previously.
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we've also done numerous trash abatements at the property, which don't require
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board hearings. Uh, there are, uh,
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as stated, uh, section 13 13 0 4 states.
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any items a user stored outside of an enclosed building or structure
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shall be limited to items manufactured for, intended for
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or customarily used in outboard environments. No items
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manufactured for, intended for or customarily stored or used
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indoors may be placed or stored outside. Lawn
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and power equipment must be kept in the backyard even when used on a regular
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basis. All permissible items stored outside must be in
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good condition and usable is intended by the manufacturer.
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no such items that are broken, dilapidated or discarded shall be
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stored outside. Investigate, inspection, verifies the
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property does not meet the standards set forth in the code. Therefore the property is in
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violation. You attach case review illustrates the violation process
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and noncompliance of the property. The attached photo shows
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the items stored on the property as of august 19th, 2025.
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it has been, reinspected has not gotten any better. City
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zoning later made. The owner of record have not been returned.
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there has been no communication from the owner occupant to the code enforcement
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officer. While the listed owner has been deceased for several years,
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his son occupies their property and has been spoken to by an
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officer and is well aware of the violation. His normal
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practice is let the city clean up the property as he knows fees will be
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accessed to property taxes. The tax record
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shows property taxes are not traditionally paid. They are years in
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arrears. If declared a nuisance by the board, the property will be
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abed by the city. Any costs incurred by the city will be invoiced
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to the property. Enter staff recommendation is as follows, the board
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declare their property a nuisance. The board orders staff to have the city
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abate the property. If so ordered, the city will bring their property in compliance
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by removal of the nuisance.
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so I think you may have partially answered this already, but I know this has been before our board several times before
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the both the name and the address sound familiar to my years. Yes. Um,
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essentially the same thing keeps happening. It is, it is picked up and then trash is new. Trash
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is thrown out there essentially. He, so it's a, it is an unfortunate
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situation. The, the person who lives there is the son of the owner. He is disabled
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in a couple of different ways now physically as well.
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um, he will go to
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properties. This is in the miami villa's development, which is down off rip
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rap road. Yep. He'll go around the development cleaning people's yards
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up for remuneration. Um,
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and then just brings it home and dumps it on his property. And
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he knows at some point we will come by and say,
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I'm gonna get it cleaned up. Nothing ever happens. It's, it's a repeat.
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he's lived there before with no electricity in that area. That means no water
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because they're on wells. So we've had issues before at
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that property,
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um, where there were five gallon buckets being used
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for purposes that they're not
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intended to. That had to be removed. And we have been notifications from the board of health at
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that time. So this, as long as this man is living
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there, we'll be dealing with this property. We have to go in occasionally
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and just clean it up. And that's where we are at this time.
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and he knows we will. And he's, he knows that we will send a bill
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and he knows he has no money to pay it. So it'll go onto the property taxes. And
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because of where this is and the net worth of that property
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to begin with, the taxes are probably already
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owed on it or more than what the property's worth in all likelihood. Yes. So,
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and we don't want, that's not a property that I'm interested in
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the city taking possession of and tearing down because of what I'm afraid
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we might find inside as far as the condition of the
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property and the sanitary conditions and so forth. So we're going to continue to
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clean it up until such a time as is goes away naturally,
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if, if you understand what I mean. Mm-hmm . And giving the amount back
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property taxes is, is any likelihood the county might foreclose on it eventually?
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um, I, we could probably have it reevaluated on though. I'm
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guessing the property since it's been in this relative condition for years,
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as long as I've worked here that it's probably,
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I would imagine the taxes at least equal or outweigh.
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I'd have to look through the folder here. The, the tax records are in your, in
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your reports. But, uh, it, it may be something we wanna look
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at in the future. So there about 10 k less than the auditor's value looks like.
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yeah. So my guess is that the auditor went by there and looked
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at it right now, I don't know if the condition on the outside would make a difference.
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probably the clutter probably would not make a difference at the property value. It would
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be a matter of if it had, you know, if the, if it had been partially burned,
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something like that, that really made it unlivable.
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you don't do anything with like, uh, I know you as far as evading
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the property, you go and remove all the junk and stuff that's in the yard.
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do anything about cleaning the house, the front of the house, washing it down from
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the mold or anything like that? Or is that the owner's responsibility? I mean as far as
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I'm concerned, that's the owner's responsibility. Um,
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at this point in this situation, getting the yard cleaned
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up and getting all the junk removed,
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uh, is I think what a priority should be. It's
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not saying we couldn't spray down the house with, um, a
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deterrent that would kill it. Sim you know, something that will just eventually
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cause all the stuff to die. But, but cleaning or
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spraying a house is something I'm not sure the city's I got. It is,
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you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I was just curious if never been
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done, but not to my knowledge. Okay. I noticed one of the, uh, gutters
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like it's hanging. Is that included in this or is this just the junk? Um,
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I think that we better leave that. At least there's a gutter.
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so yeah, it's hanging down. That's certainly not the worst of the problems
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of that property. No. My, my primary concern, the impact
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this is having on the neighbors 'cause they've been living around this gentleman for years. Everybody
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knows him is getting the yard cleaned up again.
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cool. Interesting. Anybody else have any
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questions, comments? Alright,
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entertain a motion please. I'll make a motion to declare the
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property new since and have the ct contractor abate it. Okay. Have
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a second. Second. And vote please.
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mr. Darin? Yes. Mr. Roberts? Yes.
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ms. Kromer? Yes. Mr. Shack. Madoff. Yes. Mr. Winkler?
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yes. Motion carries pmrb case 25 dash 31.
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uh, next case is pmrb case 25 dash
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32. The property owner isha jones
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is in violation of section 1313 of the property maintenance code. That
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property located at 61 33 faulkland avenue
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answer the property at 61 33. Faulkland drive is in violation
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of city code as it pertains to maintenance of gutters and downspouts.
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the entire front section of spouting has become disconnected from the house and
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must be repaired or removed. Spouting is not a requirement,
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but if installed it must be property maintained. Section
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13 13 0 4 states the exterior of a structure shall
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be maintained in good repair, structurally sound and sanitary. So as not
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to pose a threat to the public health, safety or welfare.
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the owner shall keep the exterior of all premises and every structure there on in good
[31:34]
repair. All exterior surfaces shall be maintained free
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of conditions, reflective of deterioration or inadequate
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maintenance inspection. Verifies the property does not meet the
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standards set forth in the code. Therefore the property is in violation.
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you attach case review illustrates the violation process and non-compliance
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of the property. The attached photo shows negligence and deterioration.
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city zoning letters mailed to the owner record have not been returned. There
[32:04]
has been no communication from the owner to the code enforcement office. The
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tax record shows property taxes are traditionally paid. If
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declared a nuisance by the board, the property will be abated by the ci by the city.
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any costs incurred by the city will be invoiced to the property
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owner. Staff recommendation is the board declare the property a
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nuisance. The board order staff to have the city abate to the property.
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if so, order, the city will bring the property into compliance by removal of the
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nuisance. The city's contractor will make the repair needed to reattach
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the spouting. We're not going to remove it, we're going to reattach it.
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alright. Questions? Anyone?
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we have a motion please. I move the
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third property of nuisance and have staff abate it. Second. I'll second that
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and a vote please. Mr. Shack. Mangrove? Yes. Ms.
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kromer? Yes. Mr. Darren? Yes. Mr. Roberts?
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yes. Mr. Winkler? Yes. Five to zero. Alright. Pmr case
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25 dash 32. Motion is carried.
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and I see we don't have any additional business for tonight. That was our last case.
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and without objection, the minutes of july the 10th, 2025 pmr
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beating pmr beating meeting is approved.
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no objections. It's been approved. So I guess our next meeting
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then is oct or november the 13th. So I can
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tell you that the november meeting will still be here at this city
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hall. The december meeting will probably be at the new building,
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but that's not confirmed just yet. They are scheduling like an open house.
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I hope you all come. That's gonna be a little bit before that. A couple days before that. So
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in november? Uh in december. Oh december. Okay. So we're all getting kind
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of excited. Okay. I'm ready to, will we be the first board to meet there?
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of course not. Um, council will be the first. Those are the other reasons. Ceremonial
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meeting with city council. I'm sure council will be first. Um, bza usually meets before
[34:13]
you guys do, but they meet before council also so they'll
[34:17]
get missed. So it might be you guys after council. Awesome.
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cool. Yeah. Alright. That's when the open house is gonna be at.
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yeah. I think the open house is the ninth. No, but they're
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supposed to be getting something out. Perfect. There you go. Alright.
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anything else? If not, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
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do we adjourn? We are so adjourned. Thank you all.