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We are now live.
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» Call the Village Only Village Board
meeting Thursday, August 27th, 2026 to
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order at 7 p.m. Roll call, please.
>> Trusty Benigno,
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» present.
>> Trusty Barren,
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» present.
>> Trustee Pifco,
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» present. Trustee Walls
>> present.
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» Trustee Westber
>> present.
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» Trustee Zidorowitz
>> here.
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» Village President Huff
>> present.
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» We have a quorum.
>> Thank you. Please rise for the pledge of
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allegiance.
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» Aliance to the flag of the United States
of America and to the
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stands one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for
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all.
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We've got one person signed up for
public comment. Tracy, you'd like to
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come up to the podium, please.
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» Hello board. My name is Tracy Cypora. I
live at 11365 Timer Drive. Um, I was
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driving home westbound on Huntley Road
over here and I
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pulled into Ruth uh the library at
Huntley and pulled into a spot and got
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out of my car and there was an officer
behind me. Pulled me over. I I was
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totally caught off guard. Um I asked him
why he would have pulled me over and he
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told me to get in the car
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twice. I asked him again,
put his hand on his gun.
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I'm a school bus driver.
I don't have tinted windows. I have
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nothing wrong with my vehicle.
My car is a 1996 Honda
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that has no front license plate. That's
the reason why he pulled me over.
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I don't know where this officer came
from.
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Now, I just ask you about these flack
cameras.
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I don't know what they're here for.
I really don't want to know.
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But if I was doing something wrong to
break the law because my car doesn't
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have bolts for a front license plate,
I'm sorry. But to be caught off guard
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like that and not know that there was an
officer behind me
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is very concerning.
I'm a professional driver. I've been
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driving a school bus for 27 years.
I don't break the law.
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So, I don't like flat cameras. I don't
know what their purpose is to serve
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through our community,
but I definitely know that I was not in
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a wrong. There are multiple vehicles
that do not have front license plates,
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including your Amazon trucks.
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So my only concern is in this village
that I've been living here for six
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years. I love this community,
but to be treated like that as a
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professional driver.
Transporting children every day,
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it isn't right.
It isn't right.
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I love my job.
I don't want to lose my job. and to get
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pulled over for something as petty as a
no front license plate.
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And I did show the officer that I have
my plate in my back seat.
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But it is very concerning these cameras
to a professional driver. So that is the
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only comment I have about those.
Please
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have our officers be careful who they
pull over
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because it can cost somebody their job.
That's all I have to say.
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Thank you.
>> Thank you for your comment.
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Anybody else from the public wish to
make a comment?
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Seeing none, we'll move on to the
consent agenda.
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Item five, all items listed on the
consent agenda considered to be routine
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by the village board and may be approved
and accepted by one motion with roll
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call vote. If further discussion is
needed, any member of the board may
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request that an item be moved off the
consent agenda to items for discussion
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and consideration.
Item 5.1 is approval of the August 13,
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2026 village board meeting minutes. 5.2
is approval of the August 27th, 2026
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bill list in the amount of $953,33540.
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5.3 is a resolution approving a contract
award to ANA paving contractors
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incorporated through the interlocal
purchasing system cooperative for the
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2026 multi-use path improvement project
for the not to exceed amount of
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$145,000.
5.4 is a resolution waving competitive
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bidding and improving the purchase of
street light products from the lighting
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digest in the amount of $90,953.
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5.5 is approval of invoice number one in
the final to AT&T for the dry utility
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location and overhead to underground in
association with the former village hall
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redevelopment project in the amount of
$27,158.39.
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5.6 is an ordinance approving a plot of
vacation for a portion of a municipal
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utility easement Vista Grove Mart
subdivision.
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5.7 is an ordinance annexing a 5.28 28
acre parcel generally located on the
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north side of Kits Road east of the
Union Pacific Railroad tracks to the
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village of Humpley. That's all we've got
for consent. So if anybody's got any
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questions, comments, or current
concerns, I'll take them. Otherwise,
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I'll look for a motion.
>> Motion to approve. Second.
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» Got Trusty Westber [snorts] with the
motion. Seconded by Zidorowitz.
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» Roll call, please.
>> Trustee Westber.
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» I.
>> Trusty Barren.
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» Hi.
>> Trusty Zidorowitz. Yes.
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» Trustee Peepco.
>> I.
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» Trusty Benigno.
>> I.
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» Trusty Walls.
>> Yes.
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» Motion carries.
>> Thank you.
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» Item six. We've got items for discussion
and consideration. The first one is 6.1.
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A proposed site plan and home elevations
for new 100 acre residential subdivision
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generally located east of Coin Station
Road north of Main Street. Uh
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petitioners in attendance, Mr. McFarland
and Rich Olsen. Uh if you guys want to
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come up to the table, that's fine.
Charlie, you got your presentation and
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then we can ask questions or if you guys
want to add to it at that point, you can
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and we'll go from there.
>> Thank you, mayor. Uh, as you pointed
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out, the property is located at the uh
northeast corner of Coin Station Road
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and Main Street. The entire 400 acres
are outlined in yellow. Uh, we'll talk
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specifically about LAR's project for the
100 acres at the corner of Main and 40
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Coin Station and then master planning
for the remainder of the site.
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» [clears throat]
>> So, as you mentioned, they they were
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previously before the village board in
January of this year with a plan that
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included 195 homes that were a mix of
traditional single family and age
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targeted uh very similar to the indari
product offered in Talammore. Uh Lenar
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is that contract purchaser for 100 the
100 acres at the southwest corner of the
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property. Uh the current property owner,
Falcon Funding, will retain the balance
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of the remaining master plan phases 2,
three, four, five, and six. Uh so as we
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look at the options, the top right is
the plan that was before you in January.
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The bottom two options are what are
being discussed this evening. You can
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see what's outlined in yellow or is the
initial phase one development by LAR and
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then the master planning of the
remainder of the site and the two
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options for that.
Most notably, we'll discuss the road
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network as part of the the master plan
for for the site tonight.
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Starting with option one. Again, the 100
acres there at the southwest corner.
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Again, LAR is proposing a mix of
traditional single family and their age
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targeted and RA product. Uh what's
notable about option one is that it does
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propose the elimination or the eventual
elimination of Coin Station in the Main
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Street Road intersection. So, as we look
at the the top right call out here, so
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this is Coin Station. This would be
eliminated. It would be a driveway for
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these homes, but Coin Station would just
be through or Coin Station would not go
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through to Main Street. It would just be
a straight shot on Main Street. This
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plan most notably extends Charles Sass
Parkway. So, this is the village
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village's water tower for reference
sake. Charles Sass Parkway extending to
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the south would extend directly north
and then bend through the property and
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transition into Coin Station Road. So,
it's a fairly straight uh there's no
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turns necessary in terms of at
intersections. It would blend into Coin
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Station Road and be a northern extension
of Charles Sass Parkway.
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Otherwise, the the site plan that LAR
has still continues to show the
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commercial at the corner of SAS and Main
Street and the same park site within the
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proposed phase one. Now phase two, the
difference here is that Coin Station
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Road would remain. That intersection at
Main Street and Coin Station Road would
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remain. Uh there would be a northern
extension of Charles Sass Parkway into
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the uh future phases. However, that
would just go into the subdivision. You
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could work your way over to Coin Station
Road. Uh but it's not that seamless
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transition to Coin Station Road that uh
the other option one had. So again, very
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similar plan with this one as well. Uh
approximately 100 acres there at the
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southwest corner. Slightly different uh
unit count by one or two, but again a a
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mix of traditional single family and age
targeted uh in the commercial and park
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sites remain the same.
So as I mentioned, the roadway network
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being a major discussion point this
evening. So, it's worth pointing out
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both of the concepts, both of the
options that are before you tonight
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would uh effectively eliminate what
would be the future extension of
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Elgangquin Road west of Route 47. So,
you can see the aerial photograph there.
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That's generally how Elangquin Road is
anticipated to be extended potentially.
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Uh that's how it's reflected on the
county plans. Obviously, there's a
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number of obstacles in doing that. Uh
there are substantial wetlands to go
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through as well as crossing the Union
Pacific Railroad which would be a bridge
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and then there's conservation district
property on either side of the railroad
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tracks. So again a number of hurdles
very very expensive. So just making a
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point that that these concept plans
would effectively eliminate the future
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extension of Elgangquin Road.
Now, in terms of the roadway network
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itself, it's it's worth taking a closer
look at and staff has been seeking
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proposals from qualified traffic
consultants to do a uh traffic study
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evaluating the various scenarios and
potential road improvements for Main
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Street, but also the Harmony Road
Corridor. Uh the county plan, the
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villages plan have those roads
interconnecting, straightening of
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connection of Harmony Road to Main
Street. So, it's important that we take
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a look as we start to see development on
the west side of the village that we're
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doing the road network correctly. Uh,
it's anticipated that that study will
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explore potential roadway alignments,
network modifications associated with
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those realignments of Main Street and
Harmony Roads. Uh, and whether or not
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they can accommodate future development
related traffic and support the
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long-term mobility of the area. Uh it's
anticipated that the study will review
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the concept alternatives and discuss key
findings, opportunities, and trade-offs
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associated with with each of the roadway
configurations. The goal being that it
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gives the village board information to
select a preferred alternative. Uh so
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again, this is something that would take
several months, but would provide the
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village board with the background and
the information necessary to make an
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educated decision on what is the best
roadway network as we extend west in the
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village.
It's also worth noting that Main Street
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is currently west of Bonnie Bray, a
county road under the jurisdiction of
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Mckenry County. Uh, and then Coin
Station Road is currently under the
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jurisdiction of Grafton Township. Uh, if
this entire site is annexed, Coin
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Station Road would become a village
roadway from the intersection with Main
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Street up to the Union Pacific Railroad
track. So, that entire stretch you see
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there uh would become Village Roadway if
the entire parcel is annexed. So, I
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think that's important to to note as
well.
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So, taking a closer look at what LAR is
proposing, again, not too different from
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what you saw back in January. So, I'll
just touch on it briefly and let John
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talk more about it if he wishes. Uh, so
option one you see there, what's
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highlighted in red are the traditional
single family homes. Option one has 101
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traditional single family homes. Option
two has 102. Given the road connections
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there, it allows for one additional home
site. Uh phase one or option one
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includes the indar 92 indar. Option two
has 94 indar. Again just road
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connections allow a few additional lots.
Home products are anticipated to be
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similar and this is the indari product
that I was just speaking of where that's
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located. Home elevations for the single
family would be similar to what you're
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seeing or saw built in pod 10 of the
talamore subdivision. Again this is what
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LAR presented in January. Just quick
look at those. And then the age targeted
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product would be very similar to the end
and product that's offered up in
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Talamore. Again, age targeted uh prices
ranging from 450 to 550 sizes from just
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over 1,400 square feet to just over
2,000 square feet.
[14:35]
Uh the comprehensive plan for the
village does identify this site as uh
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for future single family detached
residential uh with the darker orange
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areas identified for single family
attached. So generally the the plan
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that's before you is in general
conformance with the comprehensive plan
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for the site.
Uh should Lenar move forward with the
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proposal. Uh there is an annexation
involved. So the village board at some
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point in time would be approving an
annexation and more importantly an
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annexation agreement to go along with
that process. Uh upon annexation there
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would be a map amendment to reszone the
property to allow for their platting of
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the single family homes and then of
course the preliminary and final planned
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unit development and preliminary and
final plat of subdivisions that would be
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approved at some point in time.
Important to note again tonight is no
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vote. This is a option for the village
board to learn more about the concepts
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that are being presented and for the
village board to provide any questions,
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comments, or concerns. Uh they'd like
LAR to consider as they continue to
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proceed through the review process.
Again, no vote taken tonight. Which
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leads me to the action requested is uh
for the village board to review the
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proposed plans and building elevations
and provide any questions, comments, or
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concerns they would like LAR to consider
as they continue through the process.
[15:52]
With that, happy to take any questions.
Thank you. Thank you, Charlie.
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» John, do you have anything you'd like to
add?
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Uh yeah, just uh briefly and Rich can
can uh add comments as well, but uh and
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I'll let Rich talk about the land plan
and first why don't and then I'll talk
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about the home product. But uh Rich, why
don't you talk a little bit about the
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the two options and how they can be uh
uh univer you know universal uh to to
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the future plant station.
>> Yep. Yep. Again, my name is Rich Olsson,
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G Weber Associates. We uh prepared the
the concept plans for your consideration
[16:33]
tonight. First of all, I just want to
thank you for the opportunity for you
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feedback
through. Um really what you've got
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before you is um two options like
Charlie talked about which really
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contemplate uh SAS Parkway whether it
comes through or whether it it's
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integrated into the future phases. It's
Uh it's worth uh noting that our phase
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one is really standalone and doesn't is
not contingent on whether you do uh want
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the SAS Parkway to go through or whether
you'd like one station to stay in
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the both plans that we are proposing for
phase one are very similar. The only
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difference between the two is minor
connections as we move forward. And we
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we would want to move forward with the
current plan if you guys like what we're
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proposing and we can do that in a way
that does not impact the future uh
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decisions that you guys make. One thing
that that's nice about the plan is that
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we've proposed a really large central
green space park as a as a really nice
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signature feature to it. We've also done
a really nice job of doing landscape
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buffers around the outside that are
either combination of heavy landscaping
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or the storm water management
facilities. So that'll be nice aspect
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outside especially along main street
heavily landscaped
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through that we're providing two product
types that we're really excited about
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and
love to answer any questions you guys
[18:14]
might have.
And I'll just add to that that
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[clears throat] we for the balance of
the master plan, we have Brad Moore here
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from uh Manheard Atwell Hicks and we
have studied the entire 400 acres
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extensively
uh drainage wise and uh have
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strategically laid out uh future
detention ponds that would function in
[18:39]
altogether and would uh generally take
storm water from the southeast to the
[18:47]
northwest. And that might be a little
too deep for tonight's discussion, but
[18:52]
Brad is here and can't answer questions
in that regard, but uh the nature of the
[18:59]
property, it it it really benefits the
overall property if it all works
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together storm water-wise just because
of how
[19:09]
the topography uh where the storm water
outfall is to the west and uh and and
[19:17]
just connecting it all and you know
could be really nice features if the
[19:22]
ultimate master plan uh goes forward
over the years. Um so Brad is here. Uh I
[19:29]
also want to introduce um Zach Luke's
sitting uh next to Brad who uh works for
[19:35]
Rich. He did a lot of work on the master
plan um and uh with Brad in in laying
[19:42]
this out. Uh just a little bit more
discussion on the product that we're
[19:48]
offering in the phase one. Uh we are in
the midst of uh revamping our Andari
[19:54]
product. Uh you're familiar with it out
at Talmore,
[19:58]
but uh we have uh totally new plans that
uh we have not built these yet. Uh we
[20:06]
are going to start building them shortly
in a in a new community of ours, but uh
[20:10]
we are prepared with all new plans on
the uh on the age targeted ranch uh
[20:16]
product line uh that will be evolving
over the next 12 months. Uh also with
[20:23]
the single family, while we anticipate
uh utilizing
[20:28]
uh with a traditional single family
utilizing what we did in pod 10, uh we
[20:33]
are also have uh this lineup is being
revamped as well with new floor plans
[20:40]
and elevations that we would we would
bring at at the preliminary level. But
[20:45]
we've uh regionalized some of our
architecture. And so we have homes from
[20:50]
plans from our Minnesota division and
Indianapolis division that are
[20:54]
integrated all together. So uh they
won't it won't look exactly like pod 10
[20:58]
and it it really shouldn't look exactly
like pod 10. We need to you know we need
[21:03]
some fresh fresh elevations and fresh
plans and that's what we intend to do
[21:07]
here.
>> Thank you John. Um we've got some board
[21:13]
comments questions. Trusty Westford.
>> Yeah. Um I'm going to be nice and then
[21:18]
I'm going to ask questions here. Uh I I
don't mind the layout. I think uh
[21:24]
[snorts] the ho the houses you've
selected are are they fit within the
[21:29]
products you've been offering. So I like
that. Um
[21:34]
it's the subdivision is um you know
still vertical and um it doesn't have
[21:41]
what that northern section has a nice
curve curves to it. But I see where
[21:46]
you're going with it. My problem and
Charlie I I don't know if you guys can
[21:50]
zoom out on a map a little bit is the
potential
[21:56]
of this 440 acres in all those different
phases. Where are all those people going
[22:02]
to go? And I I I'm okay with
high school traffic because it's right
[22:08]
there. It's the potential of a,000 maybe
1,200 homes times one car, two cars per
[22:16]
household.
That's 2,00 3,000 vehicles trying to get
[22:20]
across 47 on Main Street. Without that
Algangquin extension and without Reed
[22:26]
Road extension,
I don't want to look to what's going to
[22:30]
come in the next five to 10 years
because everybody administration has
[22:35]
always told me not in our lifetime will
we see Alangquin uh go past which we all
[22:41]
kind of assume that probably won't
happen. But what happens in a 100 years
[22:45]
though? So, if we we if we stick
ourselves with too many homes over here
[22:49]
with only one way out minus Charles Tass
Parkway, that's going to that's going to
[22:56]
hurt us a little bit in the future. And
I'm not just talking about your 440. I'm
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talking about what's even further west
of Coin Station. Once you guys start
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developing, you know, other people or
your company might even say, "Well,
[23:07]
we're going to build more." So, I'm my
concern is the potential for high volume
[23:13]
of uh homes here and with only one way
out um if you want to get direct east is
[23:19]
down main street. So, I'd like to ask
for a traffic study with that type of
[23:26]
volume prior to us going any forward so
or going forward on anything like this
[23:32]
only because we can't get that elangquin
to connect. I mean, years ago, Oakrest
[23:40]
is really what blocked it. You know, it
that subdivision at the end of
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Elgangquin is going to be too hard to
cut around or go over or I don't I don't
[23:49]
even know. So, that's my two cents. So,
but I mean, you always you're a standup
[23:56]
company. You always bring us good
product. I want it to work. Let's let's
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make sure we don't mess up what what
could be in a hundred years. So, thank
[24:08]
you.
[clears throat]
[24:10]
» You want to just go down the line,
Trusty Barrett?
[24:13]
» Sure. Um I I as I look at it, I prefer
option one. Um I very much like the the
[24:20]
park that you're planning, the 4.5
acres. I do have a question about why
[24:25]
the single family homes uh all have
basements. Is is there not an option to
[24:31]
not have a basement?
[24:35]
» Uh
we we have
[24:41]
um recently
toyed with offering single family homes
[24:46]
on slab. Um and
they aren't really that popular to be
[24:53]
honest with you. I mean, Chicago land is
a basement
[24:58]
[clears throat] town and they're just
the slab homes.
[25:05]
You know, there's a lot of good storage
space in basement.
[25:09]
When you don't have a basement, um, you
know, stuff tends to end up in a garage.
[25:15]
Cars end up in driveways. Uh we probably
would offer the slab as an uh we
[25:22]
probably would offer some slab in the
age targeted ranch homes, the move down
[25:26]
homes, but in the traditional single
family I I I don't think we I don't
[25:32]
think we would offer a slab option. But
in in the ranch, we would probably offer
[25:37]
that option.
>> And I saw that in your materials that
[25:39]
you could get either. Uh my other
question is um when looking at the the
[25:45]
picture and they're all really really
nice looking. Um I don't see any that
[25:51]
have an outside seating on the front
porch and it's just hard to tell.
[25:55]
There's the pillars. Looks like
>> Yeah. buildings right there.
[25:58]
» There's a lot of front porches. Um
>> there are
[26:01]
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of
uh
[26:04]
» it's hard for me.
>> Yeah. It's hard to tell on here and some
[26:06]
of the railings aren't shown, but you
know, just looking up there, uh, Adams
[26:11]
H, Matis H, Galliston D, and Reneer H
all have se a front porch with with
[26:20]
seating area.
>> Okay. It's hard to tell with
[26:22]
» Yeah, it's hard to tell with that.
>> Thank you,
[26:26]
» Trusty Zuritz.
>> Yeah, I think uh Trusty Westber and I
[26:30]
are on the same page because
threequarters of my notes here are all
[26:33]
around traffic. So, I think without the
traffic study, it's kind of hard to
[26:38]
to [clears throat] pinpoint exactly uh
which way I'd go. I I I do like option
[26:42]
one. Um I like getting that traffic over
to SAS where there's going to be a
[26:48]
traffic light and but again going
eastbound, it's going to be tough
[26:54]
getting especially if you want to get to
the north side of town. Um so I think
[26:58]
the traffic study will will be
beneficial for us to make the right
[27:02]
decision. Um, I guess the only other
thing I really had on here was the age
[27:06]
targeted homes. Um, what's the thought
behind
[27:12]
putting them in and where they're at?
Um, I'm just when I look at at the
[27:18]
targeted homes in this picture versus
the the normal single families, like
[27:24]
they feel to me they're they feel like
they're right on top of each other with
[27:26]
a road just dividing them in between.
And you know, not that there's anything
[27:32]
wrong with kids because I have three of
them, but um like if I'm in a targeted
[27:36]
home, I might I might think a little
differently in terms of especially if
[27:40]
I'm on that road and and you know, right
across the street I got the swing sets
[27:44]
in the backyards and the kids. So, I'm
just curious
[27:47]
» why targeted homes in there at all and
uh just whatever you can expound on
[27:52]
that. Uh yeah, and I'll let Rich comment
on that too, but I'll comment first. But
[27:58]
uh um
we find in our newer communities that
[28:05]
the age targeted people, while they
don't want to be intermixed with single
[28:09]
family homes, if they're adjacent to
them, they they have no issue with that.
[28:14]
We're have n a number of communities
that we're building out right now, as
[28:18]
well as ones in planning uh that have
we'll just call it neighborhoods or pods
[28:24]
of age targeted that are separated by a
road. Uh the park that we would improve
[28:30]
here would be, you know, part of the
park would be targeted toward the age
[28:36]
targeted market maybe with pickle ball.
I'm just throwing ideas out. Pickle ball
[28:41]
or or exercise or fitness, while the
other part of the park, you know, would
[28:46]
be more suited to single family
families with kids. uh you know
[28:53]
playground type equipment that would be
attractive to to kids with with and
[28:58]
their parents. Um but Rich, you know,
you do a lot of our land planning and uh
[29:04]
and land plan a lot of plans and you
maybe you could talk about that
[29:09]
phenomena. Yeah, the the and it's not
just uh you know this developer, it's a
[29:14]
lot of developers are seeing that the
future we need a lot more of that ranch
[29:19]
style living and so they're integrating
them into as opposed to having a say a
[29:26]
sun city that's all [clears throat] age
restricted integrating that into a
[29:31]
single family home development as and
you know the benefits that come with
[29:36]
that are some similar to age restricted
where they're mowing the lawns they're
[29:40]
maintaining. So they kind of get the
best of both worlds and it helps u you
[29:45]
know integrate those those two
developments into each other as as as a
[29:51]
it also gives two different storefronts
so that you're more successful selling
[29:56]
out faster because you have two
different products you're
[30:00]
sure and it's it's a phenomenon that's
that's definitely going [clears throat]
[30:04]
pretty much every developer some some
regards of the need development.
[30:10]
» Okay. Thank you. Um the one other thing
I know you guys created the master plan
[30:15]
here overall and and phase one is what
you're concerned with. Is there any
[30:20]
thought if SAS Parkway got extended if
if option one ended up being the the
[30:25]
play down the road? Um that little green
section that phase six section in there
[30:31]
just developing that and making it part
of your phase one. I mean, seems weird
[30:37]
that that little parcel of land, which
is west of Coin Station right now, um
[30:43]
would just sit there till the end.
>> Oh,
[30:47]
uh the uh over there um west of Coin
Station. So that site over there
[30:55]
probably has to wait till phase two
because believe it or not um
[31:02]
the sanitary sewer for that parcel is
would probably need to be tributary to a
[31:09]
lift station that would be somewhere in
phase two and Brad Brad could talk about
[31:15]
that as well but uh I think it's
sanitary sewer concerns
[31:20]
» that that was the reason that uh that
was put down as a future phase rather
[31:26]
than a phase part of phase one.
>> Okay.
[31:29]
» All right. Thank you,
>> Trusty Pifco.
[31:33]
» Yeah, so far I'm looking at option one
and tend to agree with everyone else so
[31:39]
far that uh that's the good choice.
getting rid of that uh cumbersome coin
[31:44]
station that would hopefully slow
everyone down those that drive down um
[31:50]
coin station.
Um
[31:54]
the last Mac meeting that I attended,
the thought of the Alangquin extension
[31:59]
was brought up and after everyone
stopped laughing, it's probably not on
[32:04]
their 50-year list. So, I think we're
we're safe in letting that one go by by
[32:10]
So, um, couple questions I do have,
though. The, uh, you said you were going
[32:15]
to revamp the Adari product. Um, those
that I have visited, different people
[32:20]
along the way, it's always a dark tunnel
going into that front door. Is there any
[32:25]
thought of moving them doors up a little
closer?
[32:29]
» You know, something like that. It would
probably
[32:31]
» these that's one of the one of the
targets of these new plans is not having
[32:36]
the tunnel going back to the front door.
>> Okay. Yeah. Because that's
[32:41]
» Yeah. And have and have the front porch
uh available on almost all the plans.
[32:48]
» Okay. Yeah. Good. That would that would
really look good and I think you'd have
[32:51]
a lot more people interested in in some
of those.
[32:53]
» Yep. Agree with you.
um you know even your ranch with a
[32:57]
basement style plan too. I would uh be
interested in that. Um those that aren't
[33:03]
ready to move into the DA type of thing
but still want you know a onele
[33:07]
» right
>> section. And to answer trusting trusty
[33:11]
Baron's uh concern about the homes
without basements, you got to be nuts if
[33:16]
you don't have a basement. I don't care
who you are.
[33:22]
» Otherwise it looks good.
Trusty Benigno.
[33:27]
» Uh yes, thank you for being here. Um I
too am concerned as most of the other
[33:33]
the trustees regarding traffic. Uh and I
think it's very important that we do the
[33:38]
traffic study because I think that will
have an impact on my my preference in
[33:42]
terms of what the study shows us. In
looking at this, I think I actually
[33:46]
prefer uh option number two. Um, I don't
like the idea of closing Cornin Station
[33:53]
Road. I really don't. And I'm curious as
to is it possible to keep Coin Station
[33:59]
Road open as well as have the the Chuck
SAS extension. So this way you have
[34:03]
multiple ways in and out of the
community.
[34:08]
I don't know if that's realistic, if
that's something that's possible, but I
[34:10]
I just
>> I don't believe that's something that
[34:14]
will be out of the question once once
that's all taken care of. As far as the
[34:17]
traffic, it's [clears throat] the main
concern here
[34:20]
» is uh is how to deal with the traffic
and make sure it's all safe
[34:23]
» and that's an option that I think
probably could be explored for sure.
[34:27]
» Yeah, I I think that's something that
that the traffic study should look at.
[34:30]
Again, traffic being my main concern
regarding uh especially with the high
[34:34]
school being there, it's already traffic
is at certain times of day is just a
[34:38]
real nightmare and uh uh having the
homes here is just going to add to that
[34:43]
nightmare so to speak. And that's why I
think that if you if you eliminate any
[34:46]
of these any of the of the streets, any
of the access points, you're just
[34:50]
looking to create a lot a bigger
problem. So that's why again I I'm
[34:54]
looking forward to what the uh traffic
study shows
[34:57]
» and I know we've been working real
closely with staff and they've been, you
[35:01]
know,
>> Oh, yes. You you've been you've been
[35:03]
you've been extremely
>> good to work with. Yeah, I have no I
[35:06]
have no problem with
with
[35:09]
» the only the only thing I could think of
just I mean just talking through it is
[35:12]
if you don't close down coin station and
you have SAS it's a little bit confusing
[35:18]
where the traffic wants to go and I
think SAS is a nice transition up
[35:22]
through there around it's just a matter
of where you want to close down SAS do
[35:27]
you want close down SAS at Main Street
or do you want
[35:34]
» Thank Thank you,
>> Trusty Waltz.
[35:39]
» Thanks for being here again tonight. Um,
a lot of the same concerns that have
[35:43]
already been asked. I mean, as the
trustee to my right on me has mentioned,
[35:48]
I initially looked at this, I'm like,
with the traffic that we have today with
[35:52]
the high school and everything, closing
that down, I don't know if that's a good
[35:55]
idea or not. Uh, but the traffic study
will show it for us. So, that'll help us
[35:59]
drive the decision. Um, I mean the cur
changing the road so that you close it
[36:04]
off, you know, Coin Station, close it
off at Main Street and have it curve and
[36:08]
go over to Chucks Parkway. I mean, our
Gilberts to the south of us did
[36:13]
something similar down there. So, you
know, but I don't know that they have
[36:16]
the same traffic headache that we have
here on this this location. So, traffic
[36:20]
study will really help. Um, other than
that, I mean, I like you've got a good
[36:24]
product. I mean, that's been proven.
You've been good to work with through
[36:27]
the village. you know, the land is going
to get built on whether people like it
[36:30]
or not. Um, housing is going to be going
up on the west side of town. This is
[36:34]
where it's where it's moving to. Um, but
like Mr. Westberg said, we we got one
[36:40]
chance to get this right for the future.
So, the traffic study will really help
[36:43]
us drive that ultimate decision. But, I
mean, from a high level planning aspect,
[36:48]
I think it looks good. Um, I kind of
like that you were able to map out
[36:52]
future phases. That'll help us out as
well.
[36:55]
The only other question that I have is
kind of uh expanding on Mr. Zidoritz is
[37:01]
is is in regards to the targeted or the
uh single family versus age restricted.
[37:06]
You've got that here in phase one. Is
that going to be across all the phases
[37:10]
or would certain phases be more age
restricted versus uh single family?
[37:17]
» And we haven't gotten into the details
of the future phases, but that certainly
[37:21]
could be. it would would not be
restricted. It be targeted. Um but which
[37:25]
is a little slightly different but yeah
the
[37:28]
» we haven't mapped out those future
phases. Um what we basically did is we
[37:33]
wanted to give you an idea of what they
could be from a road pattern standpoint
[37:38]
through that the actual products in
there.
[37:41]
» Okay. No, that's fine. All right. But
[snorts] no, thank you for for being
[37:45]
here. I do I mean you've got a good
product. It's it's proven you know you
[37:48]
guys have good reputation. So, not
concerned on that, but the biggest
[37:52]
concern is just the uh the traffic and
make sure that we do it right because
[37:55]
there's going to be a lot of development
going on over there. So, thank you.
[38:00]
» I have got a couple comments. First
foremost, thank you for your interest in
[38:04]
Huntley. Once again,
>> um we got a great relationship working
[38:07]
together, Brad, the whole team. It it
works. Um we've talked previously much
[38:14]
like the board's traffic is main
concern. Um because it isn't just this,
[38:19]
it's it's a little bit of regional
issue. Um you know, for some of the
[38:24]
trustees that are newer, you know, even
with Oakrest, that was done in the early
[38:30]
90s and the Algangan Road extension was
always planned to go between where
[38:35]
Western Gulf was and Oakrest and around.
That's why when we did the pods and
[38:40]
Talore, we made sure that that was all
fit there. um that is a county deal and
[38:48]
I think originally Dave wasn't that on
their 2030 plan and now it's like we
[38:53]
we've said it's it's realistic that it's
it's not on their plan at all. Um
[38:58]
unfortunately
there was one farm left between Talore
[39:03]
and Coin Station that Reed Road could
have been the extension. That would have
[39:07]
been awesome. that didn't work out the
way that any of us probably thought or
[39:12]
imagined it would have. So that took
that out of play.
[39:16]
So that's where it is going and planning
for the future. It's not five or 10
[39:21]
years. That's the big picture. Um you
know, and the part that's unique with
[39:25]
Huntley is we got 47 being a state road
and the railroad and that main
[39:30]
intersection of town. We don't have any
control over signaling how traffic
[39:35]
flows, anything. And that's that's the
main thing. So, um, we've got SAS to
[39:39]
work with and then, you know, going
north, we got to figure that out east to
[39:43]
west. So, um, I think you've heard we
need a traffic study to know where we're
[39:48]
going to be so we can make a informed
decision. And, uh, going back to your,
[39:55]
you know, why Andar and the single
family homes are together. I actually
[40:00]
like it because um you know there's
plenty of people that you know have been
[40:05]
here 20 years in a single family home
and as they get older and age out might
[40:09]
want to move to the age targeted
community and they like their
[40:14]
subdivision.
It's all right there, you know, in the
[40:18]
same and it's not a complete like you
said where it's one whole block where
[40:22]
that that's all it is. Um, and it's like
I've said all along with the development
[40:26]
community is
we've got to have a plan that works and
[40:30]
is good for all of us working together,
but you guys are the ones selling it and
[40:36]
know what is selling. It's like having a
single family home without a basement.
[40:40]
You know that they don't sell.
>> So, you know, you have to have basements
[40:44]
and those and those are the options that
you know have and work. Um, and you're
[40:48]
in that industry day in and day out and
more than just one subdivision at a
[40:52]
time. So, um, your expertise and how you
bring that is valued. Um, but like I
[40:58]
said, it's the biggest thing is we'll
work through this together. It's a
[41:02]
challenge. Um, I think there's a lot of
positives that come along with it. I I
[41:06]
don't even see the traffic as uh as a
negative. It's just a uh it's an issue
[41:12]
that we got to figure out. It's one of
those things we got one chance to do it
[41:16]
and do it right. We can't come back and
do it over. um you know once your sewer
[41:21]
waters in and curb and gutter and storm
sewer you're kind of tied to what it is
[41:26]
as we've had that experience in other
parts of the village. So um I hope we
[41:31]
gave you some good feedback this evening
>> y
[41:34]
» and thank you for your time.
>> I just want to say one thing real quick.
[41:38]
Um,
holy crap. Um,
[41:44]
Charlie, can you put up the aerial
photograph of just the whole the whole
[41:47]
area? Um, when you, Mr. Mayor, when you
mentioned uh Reed Road, that was our
[41:51]
whole when we look at this whole thing.
Um,
[41:55]
» believe it or not, that Reed Road
extension
[41:58]
with Talore is meant to serve
and hit above the, you know, outside the
[42:04]
railroad tracks and hit Coin Station. So
there's no bridge. Um I know you
[42:09]
mentioned that you ran in there's an
issue with the with the farmer or
[42:13]
» well the farm got sold.
>> So right. So but in in in reality that
[42:18]
has more legs on it than Alanga road.
And when you look at the spacing of coin
[42:23]
or Charles Sass as it hooks down and
hits 47 they're about a mile increment.
[42:28]
And when we did Talore, you look at Main
Street and then the first one, Reed
[42:33]
Road, right? And then Talore Boulevard
is sandwiched in there because it's the
[42:38]
main one. But then you go up to Aman.
Um, so having that that grid, you know,
[42:44]
continued would would be a benefit. But
I think Reed Road is a big factor in in
[42:49]
analyzing this traffic study to say,
"Hey, if Alan Road isn't going to go in,
[42:53]
Reed Road is is really an opportunity
uh costwise and logistics because it's
[42:59]
it's halfway built, right?" So, I just
wanted to mention that we we always knew
[43:05]
that
getting everybody south on the main
[43:08]
street wasn't going to be the solution,
but it was getting some down Charles
[43:11]
Sass who wanted to go south and the
people who wanted to go north. it's it's
[43:15]
there and we didn't think and I don't
think anybody really agre
[43:22]
um but I think that Reed Road is
definitely the wild card to look at.
[43:27]
» I would agree. Thank you.
>> All right. Um anybody else got anything
[43:33]
to add? I think we're good.
>> Thank you for your time and working
[43:37]
through this.
>> Thank you. Thanks again.
[43:40]
» Thank you.
[43:45]
All right, item 6.2.
We've got another conceptual review of
[43:50]
proposed site plan elevations for a
self- storage facility, including the
[43:53]
outside storage of vehicles, boats, and
RVs upon lot 7 through lot 11 in the
[43:58]
Bernat Industrial Center subdivision,
unit one, located at the conclusion of
[44:02]
Gerardano Court. Uh Charlie, we got the
petitioners in attendance, too. Jerry,
[44:08]
yes. If you want to come up to the table
that way, we got questions.
[44:12]
Are you slides?
>> I've got slides for you. I'll turn them
[44:15]
off over to you at that point. So, give
me five minutes and we'll turn it over
[44:19]
to you.
>> So, as the mayor pointed out, this
[44:22]
property is located at the end of
Gerardano Court, approximately 6 acres.
[44:26]
It is north of Croitzer Road. Croitzer
Road is the east west roadway in the
[44:30]
bottom of the aerial Smith Drive further
to the west.
[44:36]
Property zoned M manufacturing.
So the property itself again it consists
[44:41]
of five current lots that would need to
be consolidated should this proposal
[44:45]
move forward. Uh it's worth noting uh
again at the end of Girardano Court the
[44:50]
eastern boundary of the property is the
railroad tracks to the east. Uh there
[44:54]
are also commed overhead utility lines
along that western edge large overhead
[44:59]
utility lines. Uh and then there is a
rail railroad spur that forms the
[45:04]
northern boundary of the property. that
railroad spur goes into the Smith Drive
[45:08]
uh park there.
[45:12]
So, in terms of the use, the self
storage, the outside storage of vehicles
[45:16]
is a special use in the manufacturing
zoning district and the village's zoning
[45:20]
ordinance does identify specific
standards that apply to uh outside
[45:25]
storage of vehicles as well as self
storage, which we'll touch on here in
[45:29]
just a moment.
But taking a look at the plan itself
[45:33]
against outdoor self- storage facility.
Uh this is a facility that would not be
[45:38]
staffed. Uh nor would there be any
structures beyond the the coverings of
[45:43]
the parking spaces that you see. So
again, no office space, no no staff on
[45:48]
the site. Again, the property would be
accessed from two curb cuts on Grodano
[45:52]
Court. First one would be the primary
access, the entrance into the site on
[45:57]
the south end of the culde-sac with
traffic circulating counterclockwise
[46:01]
around the uh the facility then exiting
that northern curb cut. It is proposed
[46:07]
to be a 24-hour a day operation. Uh
there would be security cameras on site
[46:12]
which would be the security. Uh there
are no dumpster closures proposed. Uh
[46:16]
it's anticipated that anybody who's
parking their vehicles there, their RVs,
[46:19]
their boats, so on and so forth, would
take any garbage they generate with
[46:24]
them. Uh and again, the site would be
maintained by staff which would uh
[46:28]
frequently uh which would come weekly
for landscape maintenance as well as
[46:32]
removing any garbage that might
accumulate on the site.
[46:38]
So there are three structures that are
proposed. Each of these structures are
[46:42]
the green shapes you see on the screen.
So there's one, there's two, there's
[46:45]
three. These are the canopies that would
cover the parking spaces. Uh there are
[46:49]
98 covered outdoor parking spaces of
varying depths uh anywhere from 30 to 45
[46:55]
ft in depth to accommodate the various
uh lengths of RVs. Uh there are also
[47:00]
additional spaces proposed underneath
those canopies for smaller things such
[47:04]
as uh uh recreational vehicles, boats,
jet skis, snowmobiles, golf carts, so on
[47:09]
and so forth. Uh, as I mentioned, it is
one-way circulation around the site. As
[47:15]
such, they did angle those parking
spaces. So, you'd be pulling head first
[47:19]
into a uh parking space. If there were
an opportunity for somebody to back a
[47:24]
trailer in, those would likely be the
southernmost spaces, but I'll let Mr.
[47:28]
Bernett kind of walk him walk you
through the explanation of why they
[47:31]
designed it the way they did. Uh drive
aisles throughout the site are 50 to 60
[47:36]
feet in width to accommodate the
circulation for RVs as well as vehicles
[47:41]
with trailers to be able to make those
turning radiuses.
[47:46]
Elevation's fairly straightforward.
These are metal post sloped metal roofs
[47:50]
that are proposed. These are renderings
of what they would look like. Lighting
[47:54]
would be provided underneath the
canopies of these structures are not
[47:57]
separate parking lot polemounted
fixtures proposed. uh they would be on
[48:01]
motion sensors and would dim when there
are not uh individuals around. Then
[48:06]
power would be provided underneath
canopies for RV battery maintenance or
[48:10]
block heaters uh whatever vehicles may
have and have power needs for
[48:16]
landscaping fairly minimal prop as
proposed landscaping primarily along the
[48:20]
Gerardano court frontage. Uh you see
those there in green. Uh the petitioner
[48:25]
will point out that there's not a lot of
opportunity to landscape the south and
[48:29]
east and north lot lines given their
proximity to the railroad tracks. There
[48:34]
is dense vegetation along that east uh
property line where the railroad tracks
[48:38]
abut as well as that north property line
where uh that railroad spur is located.
[48:45]
We'll call out you saw in the aerial the
wingpoint subdivision is located to the
[48:49]
east. It's approximately 200 feet to the
nearest home and on the bayou courts
[48:53]
there. So if you want to take a closer
look, I can go back to the aerial, but
[48:57]
approximately 200 feet between this
facility and homes.
[49:01]
Uh in terms of the standards identified
in this uh zoning ordinance for self
[49:05]
storage and outdoor storage vehicles,
this request would require relief from
[49:11]
those standards. Uh starting with the
location uh and that the zoning
[49:15]
ordinance ordinance states that it shall
not abut a residential zoning district.
[49:20]
Technically, this does abut a zone
residential zoning district as those
[49:23]
lines are shared with one another.
However, as I pointed out, there is a a
[49:27]
railroad right of way as well as about
200 feet separating the wingpoint
[49:31]
subdivision from the site. Setbacks. Uh
the zoning ordinance requires a 200 foot
[49:36]
setback for outdoor storage from a
public rideway. Uh in this case, they're
[49:40]
proposing a 20ft setback along Girardano
Court. Structure height, we're assuming
[49:45]
this requires relief. There is a limit
of 15 ft. Uh there's no heights
[49:49]
indicated, but given your parking under
RV underneath it, it's likely taller
[49:53]
than 15 feet. So that is relief that
would be assumed
[49:57]
and buffering. Uh the zoning ordinance
requires a minimum 8 foot tall buffer
[50:02]
which could be a fence landscaping
burming or a combination of thereof uh
[50:07]
separating abuing rightways. In this
case the proposal is showing vertical
[50:12]
rail fencing in some landscaping beds
near John Gerardano Court. Not that
[50:16]
dense or solid fencing as required by
buffer buffering.
[50:21]
Uh the screening requirement in the
zoning ordinance requires that the all
[50:24]
lot lines where outdoor storage is pre
prevented there be provided screening.
[50:29]
Again that could be a number of things
from landscaping to solid fencing. Uh in
[50:33]
this case they just have that vertical
rail fence that's proposed and again I
[50:36]
think the petitioner will point out
there's that dense landscaping also the
[50:39]
railroad tracks screening from the east
and to the north and then to the south
[50:44]
is the neighboring self storage
facility.
[50:47]
Uh parking. There is a parking
requirement in the zoning ordinance for
[50:50]
outdoor storage vehicles in and self-
storage facilities stating that one
[50:54]
parking space will be provided for every
15,000 square feet of storage area.
[50:58]
Again, this case does this there is no
building proposed here. So there is
[51:02]
you'll see on the parking or the the
site plan there is no passenger vehicle
[51:06]
parking. The idea being that somebody's
coming dropping off their RV and
[51:09]
somebody's likely following behind to
pick them up and take them back home. So
[51:13]
there are no designated parking spaces
for short-term traditional vehicle
[51:17]
parking. And then hours of operation,
the zoning ordinance limits self-
[51:22]
storage facility hours from 5:00 a.m. to
11:00 p.m. As I mentioned, this is
[51:26]
proposed at 24 hours a day access. And
then in terms of staffing, the zoning
[51:31]
ordinance does require that there be at
least one on-site employee during those
[51:34]
open hours. this case, as I mentioned,
this is a proposed as a 24-hour day
[51:39]
operation, and they are proposing an
unmanned facility. Uh people will have
[51:44]
access to the facility via code or
access card that will open the gate for
[51:48]
them.
Uh should they move forward through the
[51:52]
process, uh as I mentioned, a plat
consolidation would be required to
[51:55]
consolidate those five lots as well as a
special use permit for self- storage and
[52:00]
outdoor storage of vehicles. And then
finally, site plan review, including the
[52:04]
necessary relief for the layout of the
site as we're presenting this evening.
[52:09]
Uh, similar to the last proposal, there
is no vote being taken tonight. This is
[52:12]
an introduction to the village board
courtesy review and opportunity for the
[52:16]
petitioner to get some feedback and for
you to provide any feedback to the
[52:19]
commissioner regarding the proposed
plans. Uh, and that does lead me to the
[52:23]
action requested, which is for the
village board to provide any questions,
[52:27]
comments, or concerns they'd like the
petitioner to consider uh, as they
[52:31]
proceed through the formal review
process. With that, Mr. Bernett does
[52:35]
have a short presentation he'd like to
give. So, one moment here, we'll get
[52:38]
that set up for him.
[clears throat]
[53:06]
Thank you, Charlie. Good evening, uh,
President Hef, trustees, Dave. Um, our
[53:13]
team is here tonight to present the
concept plan for Huntley Big Toy Storage
[53:18]
at the end of Gordono Court. Uh with me
tonight from DDCA uh architects are John
[53:25]
Swerk and Michael McDow. Uh from Shefflo
Engineering, we have Frank Cuda from the
[53:30]
Wagner Law Firm, Lisa Wagner, and me,
Jerry Bernett, Bernett uh Development.
[53:36]
I'll zoom in on the project. Let's see.
Uh the area of the project shown here is
[53:43]
generally known as Bernett Industrial
Center, north ofritzer road, west of the
[53:47]
railroad tracks, south of Smith Drive.
Uh about 30 years ago, my dad bought the
[53:55]
pro uh property. Let's see,
[54:01]
Charlie.
>> Oh, there it is. Thank you. the village
[54:06]
annex, the parcel, roads, water, sewer,
all utilities were put in, including
[54:11]
centralized storm water management. Uh
my dad built the first couple buildings
[54:17]
as build the suit buildings, meaning he
hired general contractors to build
[54:21]
building number one, which is HS
Crocker, building number two, which is
[54:26]
now Old World Stone,
and building number three, which is an
[54:30]
industrial condominium building on
Allison Court. Uh about that time I
[54:35]
moved a manufacturing business that I
had into that building on Allison Court
[54:39]
and started to help oversee,
excuse [clears throat] me, our general
[54:44]
contractors doing tenant buildouts and
tenant uh renovations. I took over the
[54:50]
role of general contractor on project
number four, an industrial condo
[54:55]
building on Giardano Court, and project
five, the self- storage facility between
[55:01]
Croitzer Road and Geodano.
>> [clears throat]
[55:05]
» We're here to talk about the project uh
the area circled number six. Um and I'd
[55:11]
like to discuss an issue that has arisen
from time to time over the years that
[55:14]
you may be be aware of or not. But at
times [clears throat]
[55:19]
in the past after heavy rains, storm
water would accumulate in Gordono Court.
[55:25]
Uh we would see water in the street. It
never made it up to a building, but it
[55:30]
was there. And in the past when I was
here in Huntley all day every day what
[55:35]
we'd call public works one time they
jetted out the
[55:41]
next next
there we go they so you see the
[55:47]
detention pond and the creek there in
blue. The outlets are circled in red. At
[55:52]
one point, public works jetted out the
outlet of the detention pond and the
[55:57]
system went back to working as intended.
Another time, uh, some ambitious beavers
[56:03]
downstream started to block the creek.
Our water started to back up. Public
[56:08]
works did whatever they did with them,
and the system started to function
[56:11]
properly again.
Earlier this year, we cleaned out the
[56:17]
banks and the outlets of both the
detention pond and the creek there. Uh,
[56:22]
we removed five cubic yards of silt and
dirt and three cubic yards of brush and
[56:28]
other debris. And eight cubic yards does
not sound like a lot, but it's about the
[56:34]
size of two small cars. And when you're
trying to push water through a culvert
[56:38]
that's about this big, it can go a long
way to impeding, if not stopping that
[56:43]
flow. Um,
let's see. If if we're allowed to
[56:48]
proceed with our project, we will have
maintenance and landscaping staff on
[56:51]
site at least weekly and they one of
their duties will be to make sure that
[56:56]
those banks and outlets stay clean so
that the system will function as
[57:01]
intended.
Um
[57:05]
and anecdot anecdotally on August 1st I
came out to Gordano Court uh to see how
[57:11]
the system was working. On July 31st,
the 24-hour period before I was there,
[57:16]
Huntley experienced almost threequarters
of an inch of rain. We had a couple of
[57:20]
those this summer, 69 ines, according to
the National Weather Service, and I
[57:24]
didn't know what I was going to find,
but I walked the site. I thought I might
[57:28]
find some squishy land, some puddles,
and I happily did not. The the land was
[57:34]
dry and firm, and I think that's because
the system is working uh properly. So,
[57:40]
let's take a look at the proposed Yeah,
there we go. site plan and what we uh
[57:46]
propose to do to continue to keep the
area dry and firm and the system working
[57:52]
properly.
The light blue area above is the
[57:55]
existing detention pond. Uh its capacity
is 4.3 acre feet of water. That's about
[58:02]
1.4 million gallons of water. To the
right in dark blue is our proposed
[58:07]
expansion to that pond which would add
about 50% capacity to the existing pond
[58:13]
2.13 acre feet or another 700,000
gallons of water. To the right of that
[58:19]
in orange is a proposed detention basin
that would add another 20% to the
[58:24]
existing capacity of pond or another
280,000 gallons.
[58:29]
Uh
so roughly 2 acres of the 6 acre
[58:35]
proposed development is devoted to storm
water detention and management. And our
[58:39]
goal is to keep the street and of course
our development dry.
[58:44]
And I want to at this point express our
sincere thanks to Scott Hack and his
[58:49]
staff with our team. Over a period of
almost two years, we met multiple times
[58:54]
working through ideas, plans, revisions,
and calculations to find a way to
[59:00]
utilize this parcel, which is
technically in a flood zone. You can't
[59:05]
put a building in a flood zone, but you
can park in a flood zone. Uh on this
[59:10]
plan, the structures are white
rectangles that are intended to keep
[59:15]
boats, RVs, and campers out of the sun,
rain, snow.
[59:19]
Um, so I think that our proposed project
is not only the best and highest use for
[59:25]
this parcel. It may be the only use.
Uh, I'd like to touch on the impact of
[59:31]
the proposed project to our neighbors.
To the south, we have self- storage. To
[59:35]
the west and the north, we have
undeveloped uh, resident or I'm sorry,
[59:41]
industrial real estate. To the east is
Wing Point. The phototric plan in your
[59:47]
packet shows that there will be zero
spill beyond our site. Um, as far as
[59:53]
noise goes, RVs and pickup trucks, tow
vehicles are pretty quiet. The railroad
[1:00:00]
bed sits about 5t higher than the site.
On both sides of the track are old
[1:00:05]
stands of very tall trees uh that will
shelter the residential neighbors from
[1:00:12]
our use. For all intents and purposes,
they won't see us and they won't hear
[1:00:17]
us.
We will be asking you to approve a
[1:00:21]
couple special uses and variances that
Charlie mentioned. Uh, one special use
[1:00:26]
is self storage itself. Second special
use is parking within a self- storage
[1:00:31]
facility or vehicle storage. A special
use permit per the ordinance requires
[1:00:37]
that we demonstrate a need for the
project or the use in the community. Uh
[1:00:42]
what you have in front of you is a map
of other covered RV storage facilities
[1:00:47]
within 25 miles of Huntley. You can see
they're few and far between. And I think
[1:00:52]
that in part at least demonstrates a
need in Huntley.
[1:00:57]
About 10 years ago, when I still own the
self- storage facility, we sent out an
[1:01:01]
email poll to all of our RV tenants at
the time asking them if they would have
[1:01:06]
an interest in covered storage as we
were starting to think about developing
[1:01:10]
it. About 60% of those tenants answered
and unanimously said yes, they would
[1:01:16]
like covered RV storage. Uh so I I think
there are members of the community that
[1:01:21]
have big toys that they would like to
get out of the sun, rain, and snow.
[1:01:27]
We'll be asking you to approve, if we
get to move forward at some point, two
[1:01:31]
variances for a project that I'd like to
address. Uh first we will be asking you
[1:01:37]
to wave the requirement for a staffed
on-site office for three reasons. One,
[1:01:43]
we are in a flood zone. We can't put an
office there. Two, when a facility like
[1:01:48]
this becomes fully occupied, there is
very little new tenant traffic.
[1:01:54]
Uh and since co it has become standard
practice in our industry to rent units
[1:02:02]
over the internet, over through a call
center or on a video call from your
[1:02:07]
phone. It's a simple matter today to
take a picture of a driver's license, a
[1:02:12]
vehicle registration, proof of
insurance, and upload it to a site or an
[1:02:16]
app.
Uh the third reason for not needing a
[1:02:22]
manager on site is that my intention is
to employ professional third-party
[1:02:28]
management to operate the facility.
There are national and international
[1:02:32]
firms that manage very often remotely RV
parking facilities. A company called Rec
[1:02:39]
Nation exclusively manages RV parking
facilities. public storage, extra space
[1:02:45]
storage, and cubes smart all provide
third-party management of RV parking
[1:02:50]
facilities.
Uh the other variance we will ask you
[1:02:54]
for is 24-hour access for customers to
the facility. A family leaving for a
[1:03:00]
long weekend in their camper or a
fisherman or a woman [laughter] heading
[1:03:04]
to the lake on Saturday morning often
want to leave very early in the morning.
[1:03:09]
The fisherman wants to be there before
dawn. the family wants, say it's a long
[1:03:13]
weekend, they want to get out of town
and down the road.
[1:03:18]
» Okay.
>> Sure. Uh get down the road before
[1:03:22]
traffic starts. Um as this early access
will have little or no impact on our
[1:03:28]
neighbors,
we believe that the location lends
[1:03:32]
itself to approval of the of this
variance. And that wraps up what I have
[1:03:38]
to say for you. If there are any
questions, concerns, uh, my team are
[1:03:43]
here to listen and would like to hear
from you.
[1:03:47]
Oh, I forgot that one.
That's what comparable facilities look
[1:03:52]
like. The the metal structures covering
the uh
[1:03:57]
the parking areas.
[1:04:00]
» All right, I'll kick it off. I got a
couple questions for you. Um, Charlie
[1:04:06]
mentioned the height.
>> Yes. What were you thinking heightwise?
[1:04:09]
» Uh the canopies will be 15 to 18 ft high
with the angle for storm runoff. I can
[1:04:16]
tell you I built the uh building just to
the south of this facility. Uh the front
[1:04:21]
wall of that building is approximately
25 ft high. So we will be below. We're
[1:04:25]
not going to be obtrusive.
>> That's good because Yeah. And then um
[1:04:32]
just because it's a hot topic, would you
ever consider putting solar on top of
[1:04:37]
them for your power source?
>> I would be very interested in that. And
[1:04:41]
at at this stage, it seems premature and
presumptuous for me to explore that. But
[1:04:46]
as we go through the process and
hopefully get our project approved, we
[1:04:51]
will certainly examine that because we
would be certainly contributing back to
[1:04:56]
the grid and that could be, you know,
positive cost impact for us. Well, thank
[1:05:02]
you. Because that's one of the other
things that we've got in front of us
[1:05:05]
that I'm a proponent of is situations
like this where you can put solar on the
[1:05:10]
roof and it doesn't have a negative
impact on visual view, whatever that is.
[1:05:16]
I'm all for it. And everybody knows I'm
not for them being in far farm fields.
[1:05:21]
So, that that's my soap box there. But,
uh, no, I I like it.
[1:05:26]
» I'm very familiar with the property, as
you know. So, um, yeah, I think it it it
[1:05:31]
fits. I think it there's a need for it,
obviously. And, uh, thank you for your
[1:05:35]
time with your professional team that's
here this evening. And I'll turn it over
[1:05:39]
to the board. Who wants to start?
[1:05:43]
» Trusty West.
>> Okay. Um, yeah, I I I like the project.
[1:05:49]
I mean, I think it fits where you're
putting it. I um, it's in the back. I
[1:05:53]
don't I don't even know if anyone's
going to even know you're back there.
[1:05:56]
Um, with regards to Wing Point, um,
which I live in, but not over there. Um,
[1:06:04]
you said that the lights are going to be
shielded.
[1:06:07]
» There's zero spillage. In other words,
they're downfacing lights mounted to the
[1:06:11]
building. So, on the phototric plan,
there's zero spillage outside of the
[1:06:15]
project area. In addition to the barrier
of the tracks and the trees, with that
[1:06:20]
spillage, if you're the house closest to
us, I don't think you're going to see
[1:06:25]
that light at night. Okay.
>> Should have photo.
[1:06:29]
» Okay.
>> Should the residents or a resident in
[1:06:33]
Wingpoint
have an issue? Is that something we you
[1:06:37]
would consider to rectify and figure out
a way to make it work?
[1:06:42]
» Absolutely. I mean, we want to be good
neighbors and this type of facility, as
[1:06:46]
I said, I don't think they're going to
hear us or see us and and the lighting
[1:06:50]
design will be
>> done in a way to make sure that happens.
[1:06:53]
And if after the fact there's an issue,
we will address it and solve it.
[1:06:57]
» And then yeah, I agree with mayor. Solar
panels would be awesome in this project.
[1:07:02]
If you can figure it out, that'd be
great. Uh my last and final comment is
[1:07:06]
why the direction of those stalls the
way they are because
[1:07:13]
for the majority of them, it's a pull in
and back out. You know, if I got a 26
[1:07:19]
foot boat with a six foot tongue on it,
I'm going to have to make some really
[1:07:25]
nice maneuvers to get it backed in
because I can't pull through unless if
[1:07:29]
I'm one of the center stalls. But, um,
I'm concerned that you're going to lose
[1:07:34]
some
Boers, if you will, because it's going
[1:07:39]
to be a struggle to back that in on the
reverse direction
[1:07:44]
» with the direction of traffic. I think
the lower right section of parking
[1:07:49]
stalls, at least the right end of it,
would lend itself to pulling around the
[1:07:52]
corner and backing in. Um,
and the center section that extends out
[1:07:59]
towards the north,
we haven't discussed, but there's no
[1:08:03]
reason that those can't be pulled
through spaces. Uh, other than the ones
[1:08:07]
where the columns are, they they should
be pulled through anyway. So, yeah, I
[1:08:12]
think that's a good point and I
appreciate it and it actually
[1:08:16]
is good to think about because we can
then designate those spaces for boats
[1:08:20]
versus right
>> people that have to back in a travel
[1:08:23]
trailer, a boat, so on.
>> I mean, if it were me, I'd go I'd go in
[1:08:28]
the exit and then back in with my boat.
>> Well, you won't have to wait for someone
[1:08:34]
to come out for the gate to open.
>> Oh, gosh.
[1:08:36]
» Because the keypad will only open.
>> You said the drive aisle is 50 feet.
[1:08:40]
» The the aisle sizes vary, but they're
very large. I don't have them memorized,
[1:08:44]
but they and intentionally so because a
lot of people who have big RVs and
[1:08:50]
travel trailers uh are not professional
trailer drivers. So, we want to make it
[1:08:55]
as easy as possible for them. Uh so the
and the site lent itself to these
[1:09:01]
aisles. They're very large. They're, you
know,
[1:09:04]
» okay,
>> much larger than you would uh need for a
[1:09:06]
ladder truck to drive through probably
with the ladder out.
[1:09:10]
» Okay.
Uh, and I I would also consider that
[1:09:15]
northern section. Uh, maybe talk to some
RV people what their turning radius is
[1:09:23]
going to be with that because it it
looks like a tight corner up there. But,
[1:09:28]
I mean, I don't know. I have an RV. I
knocked out my mailbox twice now.
[1:09:33]
[laughter]
>> So,
[1:09:38]
so uh, yeah. Yeah. So the aisles are at
minimum 50 feet. So
[1:09:42]
» okay,
>> you might have to try twice to hit the
[1:09:45]
right angle, but I'm just
>> consider it so that you know that you're
[1:09:48]
you if you got designated boating area.
I mean some of those boats get big and
[1:09:52]
um it's going to be hard to swing it in
there. So
[1:09:56]
» I appreciate that comment.
>> Yeah.
[1:09:58]
» I've got an added revenue stream for
you.
[1:10:00]
» Yeah.
>> Set up some cameras.
[1:10:02]
» Oh yeah, [laughter]
>> we do intend to have the site monitored
[1:10:06]
by
>> Oh, I'm not worried about security. It's
[1:10:08]
the actual Yeah. The fun part about
that. Yeah. So, so do we make money by
[1:10:13]
selling them or by getting the people
>> unlike my trust to the left. I've never
[1:10:17]
taken out a mailbox with an RV.
>> My own twice.
[1:10:21]
» There you go. [laughter]
Do you have anything else?
[1:10:23]
» No, I'm good. Thank you,
>> Trusty Barrett.
[1:10:25]
» I think you've answered u all the
questions that I had. I see that you're
[1:10:29]
asking for many deviations from the uh
village ordinance. The only one that
[1:10:35]
really concerns me is the open 24 hours.
And I think I have concerns about, you
[1:10:42]
know, somebody returning a boat and
drinking on the lake. They come in,
[1:10:45]
they're making noise. Are the neighbors
going to hear that? Are there going to
[1:10:48]
be fumes? I can see that there's no
light poles and there's no light problem
[1:10:53]
unless they're coming in from the other
side and the headlights are I don't
[1:10:56]
know. That's the only one that concerns
me is the residents.
[1:11:00]
» Yeah.
When the motion activated lights are
[1:11:05]
active in the area that a customer is
coming in or out, u they will have
[1:11:09]
plenty of light to see under the canopy,
the drives and what they're doing. Uh
[1:11:16]
people out
using alcohol and recreational vehicles
[1:11:21]
and boats. Yeah, I hope that doesn't
happen. Um,
[1:11:26]
but um,
>> well, I'm concerned on the lights for
[1:11:30]
their wing wing.
>> Well, with the with the height of the
[1:11:33]
lights and the fact that they only shine
down and you've got two rows of very
[1:11:38]
tall trees,
>> right?
[1:11:40]
» I don't think they're going to be able
to see.
[1:11:41]
» What are they going to be clanking and
making noise at 3:00?
[1:11:44]
» Well, I hope not. No,
>> I don't think
[1:11:48]
» I mean, yeah, if I'm backing a trailer
in at any time, I'm being very careful
[1:11:52]
because it's my trailer.
>> Again, that's my only concern.
[1:11:56]
» Yes, I I I think that's a good concern.
>> I've got a photo of the property looking
[1:12:02]
from the subject property across the
comet, across the tracks, houses.
[1:12:16]
the headlights won't go that way.
>> Take a look at that.
[1:12:19]
» Was like 200.
>> That was one of the questions I had, but
[1:12:23]
you've already answered that.
>> That's why I brought the pros.
[1:12:29]
» Thank you.
>> Thank you, trustees.
[1:12:32]
» Yeah, I think this is a a good project,
a good place for the project. Um,
[1:12:38]
I did have a bit of a question about the
247 access and it was more so is there
[1:12:43]
any industry data or anything like yeah
it's 247 but truthfully how many people
[1:12:48]
are using it between 1000 p.m. and 6
a.m.
[1:12:52]
» I think that's a good question. I don't
have the answer but I'll get it for you.
[1:12:56]
I got I gota imagine that's a small
>> it's very small and and you know in
[1:13:00]
terms of traffic overall on any given
day it's unlikely that 10% of our uh
[1:13:05]
tenants will be on the court court there
but uh yeah it it is very small. It's a
[1:13:12]
it's a convenience to offer customers
that hypothetically and theoretically
[1:13:17]
sounds really good, but you're right,
it's probably going to get very very
[1:13:21]
little use
>> and as you get into winter, those things
[1:13:24]
are just going to be stored there for
months. So,
[1:13:27]
» yeah, heard the comment before about
like bringing someone to the site. A lot
[1:13:30]
of times someone else will just bring
their own car.
[1:13:33]
» They'll park where they were.
>> Park their car and take the RV.
[1:13:37]
» So, it may not always be lots of people.
>> Yep. True. Yeah, a good good spot for
[1:13:42]
it. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:13:45]
» The only other comment Dave and I were
just discussing that we're gonna have to
[1:13:49]
look at, you know, as this moves forward
is with the self storage facility that's
[1:13:54]
the neighbor. They don't have 24 hours.
So, how do we not set the precedence on
[1:13:59]
that going forward? Just something to
think about. Um, and like I said, I can
[1:14:03]
I can understand the RV thing because my
mom has one and loves it. Me, not so
[1:14:09]
much. Um, it's one of those things
where, yeah, it's the 24 access. I can
[1:14:14]
see it because there's times they want
to leave at 2 in the morning to get
[1:14:17]
through Atlanta at a certain time, but
it's not like it's a contractor yard
[1:14:21]
where it's 2 in the morning every day
with, you know, the traffic going and
[1:14:25]
out. So, I think there's we'll have to
figure that part out as we can um you
[1:14:31]
know, moving forward. But, um, that was
just food for thought. Trusty Waltz.
[1:14:39]
Thanks for being here. Um, overall I
like it. I think it's a good use of the
[1:14:43]
spot. You can't put too much else on it.
So, um, it's not intrusive. I don't see
[1:14:48]
it being
horrible looking from any, you know, the
[1:14:52]
viewpoint of it. You're not going to
really see it from anywhere unless
[1:14:54]
you're there. So, I think that's a good
sign. The only, you'd address the the
[1:14:59]
one question that I had with Mr. Westber
in regards to the angled spots. I mean,
[1:15:02]
if everything's pulled through, most of
this is going to be uh motor homes
[1:15:07]
instead of trailers. So, that's
something you got to figure out.
[1:15:11]
Otherwise, I think you got to deal with
the flow of it in order to be able to
[1:15:15]
park the trailers cuz I I I pull
trailers. I'm kind of handicapped,
[1:15:19]
albeit I haven't run over any mailboxes
like other trustees do. But, um but I do
[1:15:24]
have challenges with it. So, if you're
going to have a lot of people renting it
[1:15:28]
for trailers, I don't know that this
design is going to work the best for
[1:15:32]
that. You're going to be limited from
that. I think they'll fill up quick and
[1:15:35]
then you're going to have a lot of motor
homes. But again, it's depending upon
[1:15:38]
what you're targeting and what you're
going to be able to to put there, you
[1:15:41]
know, to rent. My only question is these
motor homes are huge. Um, what's the
[1:15:46]
width of the lots going to each of the
stalls going to be?
[1:15:50]
» Okay, that's in the pack.
>> Because if you can trust Google, some of
[1:15:53]
the trailers are Oh, yeah. you know,
eight to eight and a half feet.
[1:15:56]
» And you don't want to have them too
tight together. So, just make my only
[1:15:59]
advice would be make sure that they're
wide enough to accommodate
[1:16:03]
everything that you're going to be
fitting in the in the lot. But, I think
[1:16:06]
it's a good uh overall like the design.
I like your consideration for the uh
[1:16:12]
water management of everything. So, I
think it's a good good overall and I
[1:16:16]
think uh just a little bit of
fine-tuning on it and you should uh
[1:16:20]
should have a good plan there.
>> Yeah. Thank you. We are Go ahead. The
[1:16:24]
the depths of the spaces,
>> the width,
[1:16:25]
» the width.
>> Oh, the widths are 12 feet.
[1:16:28]
» Some are wider, aren't they? The large
ones.
[1:16:30]
» I think they're like 33 to 43 ft deep.
>> Is that big enough for a motor?
[1:16:34]
» 12 feet.
>> Yeah.
[1:16:35]
» Okay. All right. Nope. You're good then.
>> Thank you.
[1:16:38]
» Thank you.
>> They're only 8 foot wide.
[1:16:41]
» They look bigger than they are.
[1:16:47]
[laughter]
[1:16:50]
» You got none.
>> That's all. I'm good.
[1:16:51]
» Trusty Benign.
>> Oh, yes. and welcome. Thank you for
[1:16:54]
showing interest in continuing to
develop in our in our community. Uh
[1:16:59]
pretty much your presentation and your
plan addresses 99.9% of my concerns
[1:17:04]
regarding uh impact on the residential
area and it's all in a positive way. My
[1:17:09]
only concern is and again this this
reflects my ignorance of self storage
[1:17:14]
areas and so forth and so on. My only
concern is uh that you provide you had
[1:17:20]
mentioned earlier that the people the
the owners the renters so to speak will
[1:17:24]
be required to remove trash so forth and
so on
[1:17:26]
» their own trash.
>> Okay. Well, their own trash. But I I
[1:17:29]
guess what I'm saying is is there a need
to have a written policy regarding what
[1:17:34]
they are supposed to do.
>> Oh yeah.
[1:17:35]
» And also a written policy in terms of
how you or whoever the the firm that you
[1:17:40]
hire will enforce it. that that's
>> there. In addition to the formal lease,
[1:17:46]
there are rules and regulations for this
facility. There's video monitoring in
[1:17:50]
addition to weekly maintenance by
maintenance people in addition to uh
[1:17:56]
landscapers or snowplow. So, if there
are issues with debris, it will be
[1:18:00]
addressed directly by staff and the the
videos will tell us who the problem
[1:18:06]
players are and and we'll be able to
work with them to solve the problem.
[1:18:10]
» So, thank you. So your answer I'm no
longer ignorant of [laughter] the
[1:18:15]
facilities. So thank you Trusty Pivo.
>> Yeah. Um couple of things. I know you
[1:18:23]
mentioned about just have them parking
and um
[1:18:28]
it probably isn't viable now but sooner
or later everything is going to go
[1:18:32]
electric. You got any thoughts of having
charging stations and charging them for
[1:18:37]
it?
Not at this point. Rec. I'm not aware of
[1:18:40]
any large recreational vehicles that are
all electric at this point. It would be
[1:18:46]
a major change in the industry and would
affect every storage facility that's
[1:18:51]
there. If that is something that comes
to be in the marketplace and we need to
[1:18:56]
do that to remain competitive, we would
certainly do it.
[1:18:59]
» Yeah. I mean, you know, [clears throat]
mentioned here about the uh golf carts
[1:19:03]
and stuff. I mean, some of that's
electric already. So, I didn't know if
[1:19:07]
you had any ideas, thoughts about that.
>> Right. We've got we're planning some
[1:19:12]
power for RVs so that they can plug in
and maintain their batteries. Uh
[1:19:17]
likewise for boats, there's battery
tenders for boats, but not high uh
[1:19:23]
current or voltage charging at this
point.
[1:19:25]
» Okay. So, would you be charging them to
use that power? Then
[1:19:29]
» it's going to have to be included with
the rent because otherwise we'd have to
[1:19:32]
meter each one. But they they would be
smaller uh 10 to 15 amp circuits tops
[1:19:37]
probably 10 because they will maintain
the uh the systems of an RV or a boat.
[1:19:44]
And we will do more research on that to
find out what other facilities do and
[1:19:49]
what is standard in the industry. And we
do a lot of these nationwide. Basically,
[1:19:54]
they're trickle chargers just to keep
the batteries not from dying.
[1:19:58]
» Okay.
>> Because you don't want to put more power
[1:20:00]
because then you don't want to get into
people using the air conditioning system
[1:20:04]
and everything else.
>> You don't want them living there.
[1:20:06]
» You don't want I didn't want [laughter]
>> that was going to be my next thing about
[1:20:10]
just the chargers.
>> Yeah. Okay. All right. And is it safe to
[1:20:14]
say that there's never going to be any
semi-trailers, tractors, or anything in
[1:20:17]
this thing?
>> We are not in intending to. This is not
[1:20:20]
a a tractor parking facility. No.
>> Okay. I just want to make sure because
[1:20:24]
then that that would cause a noise that
would
[1:20:26]
» Oh, yeah.
Point in that corner. So,
[1:20:30]
» I mean, the other ones I can understand
it would, you know, normally don't make
[1:20:34]
too much noise, but
>> you know, I mean, and that crumbles my
[1:20:38]
uh my fear of the 24-hour
opening. So,
[1:20:43]
» yeah. and and and we understand that the
ordinance and the rules have to be more
[1:20:48]
restrictive than necessarily applies to
every site and every application because
[1:20:53]
if you don't have the rules then that's
going to be happening everywhere. We
[1:20:57]
think that this site in particular
because of the location in an industrial
[1:21:01]
park with excellent screening to the
adjacent residential area uh is
[1:21:07]
appropriate for that type of access.
>> Otherwise, good luck. Thank you.
[1:21:14]
» All right. I think you've got some
direction.
[1:21:16]
» Thank you. We've got some good questions
and things to look into. I appreciate
[1:21:19]
it.
>> Thank you for your uh interest in
[1:21:22]
developing a little bit more. We'd
appreciate it. So,
[1:21:26]
» we'll be in touch, I'm sure. So,
>> great. Thank you.
[1:21:28]
» Thank you.
>> Thank you everybody.
[1:21:32]
» All righty. Uh item 6.3, this is a fun
one. You got policy direction for
[1:21:38]
proposed amendments to the chapter 110
alcoholic liquor video gaming and
[1:21:42]
electronic sweep stakes machines. Sarah,
[1:21:51]
» thank you. Village President Huff, just
one moment.
[1:21:57]
All right.
[1:22:01]
As part of the village's ongoing review
of the recently recodified village code,
[1:22:05]
staff has completed a comprehensive
review of chapter 110 alcoholic liquor,
[1:22:09]
video gaming, and electronic sweep stake
machines. This review was undertaken to
[1:22:14]
identify provisions that are outdated,
unclear, inconsistent with uh current
[1:22:18]
village practices or have created
operational questions during
[1:22:22]
administration and enforcement of liquor
licenses. The proposed amendments retain
[1:22:26]
the overall structure and existing
liquor license classifications while
[1:22:31]
making a number of administrative and
substant changes related to employee age
[1:22:35]
requirements, hours of operation,
minors, nuisance conditions, licensing
[1:22:41]
and renewals, special events, golf
courses, basset requirements, prohibited
[1:22:46]
additives, and enforcement procedures.
Staff is presenting the proposed policy
[1:22:51]
changes to the village board for
preliminary discussion and direction
[1:22:54]
prior to preparing the amendments for
formal consideration. As part of the
[1:22:58]
vill's outreach efforts, all current
liquor license holders have been invited
[1:23:02]
to attend a meeting this upcoming Monday
at 10:00 a.m. here in the boardroom to
[1:23:07]
review the proposed chapter 110 updates,
ask questions, and provide feedback
[1:23:11]
prior to the amendments moving forward.
>> [clears throat]
[1:23:15]
» The proposed amendments address the
following primary areas in terms of
[1:23:19]
employee and minors. I won't read all of
them. I'll just take a few highlights of
[1:23:22]
each section. Uh clarifies what duties
employees under 21 may perform in liquor
[1:23:27]
licensed establishments. Allows
employees ages 18 through 20 to serve or
[1:23:32]
deliver alcohol in restaurants under
appropriate supervision. However,
[1:23:36]
restaurants and liquor license holders
can be more strict if they choose to
[1:23:40]
have it over 21. Hours of operations is
reorganizes and simplifies permitted
[1:23:45]
alcohol service hours. Clarifies when
alcohol sales, service, consumption, and
[1:23:50]
patron activity must end.
Intoxicated persons and nuisance
[1:23:55]
conditions. Expands the definition of
impairment beyond alcohol to include
[1:23:59]
other intoxicating substances.
Liquor license applications and
[1:24:03]
renewals. Updates applications
requirements and removed outdated
[1:24:07]
personal information requirements. also
establishes a non-refundable
[1:24:11]
administrative application and
processing fee, which I'll discuss
[1:24:14]
further down. Prohibited additives
establishes a new prohibition on
[1:24:19]
combining alcoholic liquor with THC,
CBD, credom, and controlled substances
[1:24:24]
and other unauthorized psychoactive or
mindaltering substances.
[1:24:29]
In terms of license classifications, it
revises the class F golf course license
[1:24:34]
to apply to public and private golf
courses. Currently, it states it's a
[1:24:38]
country club. However, we don't have
those. So, we do have the public golf
[1:24:42]
courses. Clarifies where alcohol may be
sold, served, and consumed at the golf
[1:24:47]
courses while continuing to allow the
mobile beverage cart service while
[1:24:51]
restricting additional permanent or
standalone alcohol service areas
[1:24:55]
throughout the course. They can still
serve in their main facilities in
[1:24:58]
adjacent patios, but they can't
establish new outside consumption areas.
[1:25:02]
for example, a standalone patio on whole
12 if they so choose.
[1:25:11]
I'll scroll down.
[1:25:14]
Enforcement and discipline expands and
clarifies the liquor control
[1:25:18]
commission's authority to impose fines,
suspend or revoke licenses, decline
[1:25:22]
renewal, establish probation or
operational restrictions, and impose
[1:25:26]
other reasonable license conditions as
it relates to a liquor violation.
[1:25:33]
Underage alcohol warning adds a
requirement for liquor license
[1:25:36]
establishments to display village
approved signage regarding the
[1:25:40]
prohibition and penalties associated
with underage alcohol purchase and
[1:25:44]
possession. We will be providing updated
signage from the police department for
[1:25:48]
all liquor license holders to display in
their establishments.
[1:25:53]
The proposed amendments establish a
non-refundable administrative
[1:25:56]
application and processing fee in an
amount not to exceed $150 for liquor
[1:26:00]
license application renewals, transfers,
modifications, and other approvals. This
[1:26:05]
fee is intended to offset village
expenses associated with the background
[1:26:08]
investigations, fingerprinting, and
other administrative costs. If approved,
[1:26:13]
the $150 fee would be credited towards
the applicant's first liquor license
[1:26:17]
payment. So, a typical $1,500
uh license fee would be brought down to
[1:26:22]
1,350
for the first year.
[1:26:27]
The proposed amendments to chapter 110
have been reviewed by the village
[1:26:30]
attorney and then following village
board policy directions, staff will
[1:26:34]
incorporate any requested revisions and
prepare the necessary ordinance and
[1:26:38]
related fee and fine schedule amendments
for formal consideration.
[1:26:42]
The village board is requested to
provide policy direction regarding the
[1:26:45]
proposed amendments to chapter 110. And
subject to village board direction,
[1:26:49]
staff will finalize those final
amendments. I'm joined this evening by
[1:26:53]
Deputy Chief Williams and we're both
happy to answer any questions. Thank
[1:26:56]
you, Mayor.
>> Thank you, Sarah. Who wants to start and
[1:27:00]
kick this one off?
>> Trustes.
[1:27:04]
Uh first off, I think this is uh this is
well done and and a great way to
[1:27:08]
consolidate and clarify um what we have
uh what we already had out there. Um my
[1:27:15]
really only question is you just gave
the example of you know you can't on
[1:27:20]
hole 12 of the golf course you can't set
up thing as somebody who plays in a
[1:27:25]
number of golf outings. Um there are
times when there's hole sponsors out
[1:27:31]
there that could be a winery or a
brewery or something like that and
[1:27:35]
they're distributing their stuff. How
are we looking at that or how are we
[1:27:40]
going to handle that?
>> Certainly that is fine as long as the
[1:27:43]
the golfers are still moving. It's not a
standalone permanent structure where it
[1:27:47]
stops the play of golf and it becomes a
new outside consumption area where
[1:27:52]
events or serving will take place. A
temporary, you know,
[1:27:55]
» it's temporary.
>> Yeah, that would be fine.
[1:27:57]
» Plus, those typically they're not
selling. They're given away or it's
[1:28:00]
included in your So, does that make a
difference or not?
[1:28:05]
» It doesn't really make too much of a
difference. However, the whole point is
[1:28:08]
not for a new permanent outside
consumption area to be added on. That's
[1:28:12]
difficult with restrooms access for
public safety vehicles to get to them.
[1:28:16]
So, we want to prevent that from
happening.
[1:28:19]
» Perfect.
>> Thank you.
[1:28:21]
» Yeah, we do have in we do have in the um
amendment a description that it be at
[1:28:26]
the main clubhouse or other primary
building um or within mobile beverage
[1:28:31]
carts. So, if you want to accommodate
other types of temporary beverage
[1:28:36]
service, maybe we could just make a
clarification to the language there that
[1:28:39]
would more clearly accommodate that if
it's something you want to allow.
[1:28:42]
» Certainly,
>> I'm not opposed either way. Um, if it
[1:28:48]
ought to be clarified just for the sake
of clarification, maybe
[1:28:53]
» it can't hurt.
>> We can do that.
[1:28:55]
» And and maybe it's just saying that it
temporary ones are permitted.
[1:29:00]
» Perfect.
[1:29:05]
I just want to say that it's very
comprehensive and complete and
[1:29:09]
understandable. The one thing I was
really surprised at is that minors
[1:29:14]
can serve alcohol. That was really
shocking to me. So
[1:29:19]
» that's my only comment. isn't
>> they are under the supervision of a
[1:29:23]
Basset certified say bartender or
manager and ultimately it is their
[1:29:28]
responsibility to ensure that it is
being served appropriately.
[1:29:34]
» Thank you Westford.
>> No uh good job
[1:29:40]
basic housekeeping that's all. Uh I like
the fact you implemented pretty much
[1:29:45]
everything state law so nice and easy.
>> Trusty Waltz. Clarification on the
[1:29:51]
miners serving they will not be carding
individuals just distributing the order
[1:29:57]
once it's been
>> certainly. Yes. So typically the the
[1:30:01]
practice is that the manager or
bartender will come and review the
[1:30:04]
identification since they are the ones
who are basset certified. So they are
[1:30:07]
trained to do so.
>> Okay. So they're just literally bringing
[1:30:10]
it from
>> correct maybe walking it to the table.
[1:30:13]
» No different than serving food by the
way. Okay. No, other than that, thank
[1:30:17]
you for spending the time to bring this
up to speed. So, nice job,
[1:30:21]
» Trusty Benign.
>> Yes, I just like to echo what everyone
[1:30:24]
has already said and again, an excellent
job uh making the amendments and really
[1:30:28]
clarifying for everybody uh the issues
involved. Thank you.
[1:30:34]
» Same thing. Good job for doing all this
and move forward.
[1:30:41]
» All righty. You got some direction?
>> I do.
[1:30:44]
» Good. Thank you, mayor.
>> Thank you.
[1:30:47]
» Item seven, village attorney's report.
>> Uh, no report, but happy to take any
[1:30:52]
questions.
>> Questions of council?
[1:30:54]
Seeing none, village manager report.
>> Uh, no formal report. I would be happy
[1:30:59]
to take any questions.
>> Questions of Dave. Village president's
[1:31:05]
report. We had a nice little get
together on Saturday reberrying the
[1:31:10]
time, the old time capsule and the new
one. Um, very informative presentation
[1:31:15]
by Jake. Um, we've got farmers market
this week and happy Labor Day next
[1:31:22]
weekend. So, there you go. Any
unfinished business?
[1:31:26]
Any new business?
No exec.
[1:31:31]
No action on exec. So, I'll look for a
motion to close.
[1:31:34]
» So moved.
>> Second.
[1:31:35]
» Fifco and
um Westber. All in favor say I.
[1:31:40]
» I.
>> Any opposed? Motion carried. We're out
[1:31:44]
at 8:31.