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[12:32] ♪ >> There she is. And take a moment

[12:40] >> There she is. And take a moment all right. Good.

[12:41] And take a moment all right. Good. >> Good morning. And welcome

[12:44] all right. Good. >> Good morning. And welcome to the workshop on the

[12:45] >> Good morning. And welcome to the workshop on the five-year financial forecast.

[12:48] to the workshop on the five-year financial forecast. It is August 12th 2025 at

[12:48] five-year financial forecast. It is August 12th 2025 at 09:00AM to get started this

[12:51] It is August 12th 2025 at 09:00AM to get started this morning.

[12:52] 09:00AM to get started this morning. Commissioner can are would you

[12:54] morning. Commissioner can are would you like to lead us in the

[12:55] Commissioner can are would you like to lead us in the indication? And Commissioner

[12:56] like to lead us in the indication? And Commissioner Fay again, could you lead us in

[12:56] indication? And Commissioner Fay again, could you lead us in the pledge if you could please

[12:59] Fay again, could you lead us in the pledge if you could please rise?

[13:04] the pledge if you could please rise? >> You’re only father. We come

[13:05] rise? >> You’re only father. We come to her this morning again.

[13:07] >> You’re only father. We come to her this morning again. So thankful for the many

[13:09] to her this morning again. So thankful for the many blessings are laws, Lord, we

[13:09] So thankful for the many blessings are laws, Lord, we pray. We pray for those who

[13:12] blessings are laws, Lord, we pray. We pray for those who are struggling today. We prayed

[13:13] pray. We pray for those who are struggling today. We prayed that they would feel the

[13:15] are struggling today. We prayed that they would feel the comfort of your embrace for

[13:16] that they would feel the comfort of your embrace for that. You would be with us here

[13:18] comfort of your embrace for that. You would be with us here today as we go about the

[13:18] that. You would be with us here today as we go about the county’s business wrote the

[13:23] today as we go about the county’s business wrote the day. For that should not give

[13:24] county’s business wrote the day. For that should not give us the right words to use to

[13:28] day. For that should not give us the right words to use to communicate our message is

[13:28] us the right words to use to communicate our message is Lord, we pray that you give us

[13:31] communicate our message is Lord, we pray that you give us open ears and mind to listen

[13:31] Lord, we pray that you give us open ears and mind to listen to the viewpoints of others on

[13:34] open ears and mind to listen to the viewpoints of others on the board as well as out in the

[13:34] to the viewpoints of others on the board as well as out in the public will be giving their

[13:38] the board as well as out in the public will be giving their input as well. I pray Lord most

[13:40] public will be giving their input as well. I pray Lord most well to look over a look over

[13:40] input as well. I pray Lord most well to look over a look over first responders both here in

[13:44] well to look over a look over first responders both here in the far bring them back home

[13:44] first responders both here in the far bring them back home safely each and every day in

[13:45] the far bring them back home safely each and every day in Jesus name. We pray. Amen.

[13:48] safely each and every day in Jesus name. We pray. Amen. Amen.

[13:51] Jesus name. We pray. Amen. Amen. >> I pledge allegiance to the

[13:53] Amen. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag. The United States of

[13:55] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag. The United States of America. As to the Republic

[13:58] flag. The United States of America. As to the Republic for which it stands. One nation

[14:00] America. As to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with

[14:01] for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[14:08] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Madam clerk, the roll call,

[14:11] liberty and justice for all. Madam clerk, the roll call, please.

[14:13] Madam clerk, the roll call, please. >> This is a public workshop

[14:14] please. >> This is a public workshop of the Citrus County Board of

[14:16] >> This is a public workshop of the Citrus County Board of County Commissioners, this 12

[14:19] of the Citrus County Board of County Commissioners, this 12 day of August 2025. in a

[14:20] County Commissioners, this 12 day of August 2025. in a tenants are Chair. Rebecca

[14:23] day of August 2025. in a tenants are Chair. Rebecca Bay’s first chair Diana

[14:24] tenants are Chair. Rebecca Bay’s first chair Diana Finnegan, second Vice Chair

[14:26] Bay’s first chair Diana Finnegan, second Vice Chair Janet Barrack. Commissioner

[14:30] Finnegan, second Vice Chair Janet Barrack. Commissioner Jeff Canard, Commissioner

[14:31] Janet Barrack. Commissioner Jeff Canard, Commissioner holiday. This county

[14:32] Jeff Canard, Commissioner holiday. This county commissioner. Sorry County

[14:34] holiday. This county commissioner. Sorry County Administrator Steve Howard and

[14:35] commissioner. Sorry County Administrator Steve Howard and county attorney to Nace a dime

[14:40] Administrator Steve Howard and county attorney to Nace a dime in London. Thank you very much.

[14:41] county attorney to Nace a dime in London. Thank you very much. This morning, we’re going to

[14:44] in London. Thank you very much. This morning, we’re going to be joined by PMF a consulting

[14:45] This morning, we’re going to be joined by PMF a consulting group.

[14:46] be joined by PMF a consulting group. >> That is going to do the

[14:48] group. >> That is going to do the presentation on the five-year

[14:49] >> That is going to do the presentation on the five-year financial forecast. Welcome.

[14:52] presentation on the five-year financial forecast. Welcome. Good morning.

[14:54] financial forecast. Welcome. Good morning. >> Thank you all so much for

[14:54] Good morning. >> Thank you all so much for having me. It’s a pleasure to

[14:56] >> Thank you all so much for having me. It’s a pleasure to be here with all this morning.

[14:58] having me. It’s a pleasure to be here with all this morning. My name is Daniel Scott Parker.

[15:01] be here with all this morning. My name is Daniel Scott Parker. I’m a director at Pfm and very

[15:02] My name is Daniel Scott Parker. I’m a director at Pfm and very excited to share with you all

[15:04] I’m a director at Pfm and very excited to share with you all the results of the 5 year

[15:05] excited to share with you all the results of the 5 year forecast. We’ve been working

[15:07] the results of the 5 year forecast. We’ve been working with the county over a number

[15:08] forecast. We’ve been working with the county over a number of months and it’s been a

[15:09] with the county over a number of months and it’s been a pleasure working with the

[15:10] of months and it’s been a pleasure working with the entire county teen. So I’ll

[15:12] pleasure working with the entire county teen. So I’ll jump right into the

[15:12] entire county teen. So I’ll jump right into the presentation and hopefully have

[15:15] jump right into the presentation and hopefully have had some time for questions.

[15:16] presentation and hopefully have had some time for questions. BFM, you like your Lall likely

[15:19] had some time for questions. BFM, you like your Lall likely familiar with them, get them

[15:20] BFM, you like your Lall likely familiar with them, get them serves as the county’s

[15:21] familiar with them, get them serves as the county’s financial adviser myself and

[15:24] serves as the county’s financial adviser myself and my on Jews in a moment are with

[15:25] financial adviser myself and my on Jews in a moment are with the consulting practice that

[15:26] my on Jews in a moment are with the consulting practice that really focuses on the school

[15:29] the consulting practice that really focuses on the school planning and budgeting

[15:30] really focuses on the school planning and budgeting multi-year financial planning.

[15:32] planning and budgeting multi-year financial planning. I’m based in New Orleans.

[15:34] multi-year financial planning. I’m based in New Orleans. But we have offices across the

[15:34] I’m based in New Orleans. But we have offices across the country, including our local

[15:37] But we have offices across the country, including our local offices here in the state,

[15:38] country, including our local offices here in the state, Orlando and Miami. And this

[15:40] offices here in the state, Orlando and Miami. And this really provides us. The

[15:41] Orlando and Miami. And this really provides us. The president said do what we need

[15:42] really provides us. The president said do what we need to do in order to bring you

[15:44] president said do what we need to do in order to bring you all budget solutions that are

[15:46] to do in order to bring you all budget solutions that are tied in true time tested and

[15:48] all budget solutions that are tied in true time tested and true to solving every one of

[15:50] tied in true time tested and true to solving every one of your various complex problems.

[15:52] true to solving every one of your various complex problems. We are part of the different

[15:55] your various complex problems. We are part of the different groups consulting practice

[15:55] We are part of the different groups consulting practice really focus on issues of

[15:58] groups consulting practice really focus on issues of management and budget that

[16:00] really focus on issues of management and budget that includes looking at ways to

[16:02] management and budget that includes looking at ways to improve government efficiency

[16:02] includes looking at ways to improve government efficiency looking at day-to-day

[16:04] improve government efficiency looking at day-to-day operations. But ultimately we

[16:05] looking at day-to-day operations. But ultimately we are also the leader in

[16:07] operations. But ultimately we are also the leader in providing multi-year financial

[16:08] are also the leader in providing multi-year financial planning to local governments

[16:09] providing multi-year financial planning to local governments across the country in the last

[16:11] planning to local governments across the country in the last 10 years. We’ve got about 50

[16:13] across the country in the last 10 years. We’ve got about 50 financial plans, another 20 for

[16:14] 10 years. We’ve got about 50 financial plans, another 20 for school districts across the

[16:15] financial plans, another 20 for school districts across the country. So it’s a pleasure to

[16:17] school districts across the country. So it’s a pleasure to be working with you all.

[16:18] country. So it’s a pleasure to be working with you all. I’m joined by my colleague,

[16:20] be working with you all. I’m joined by my colleague, Iowa to somebody who’s been

[16:22] I’m joined by my colleague, Iowa to somebody who’s been excellent and helping to really

[16:22] Iowa to somebody who’s been excellent and helping to really pull together the forecast and

[16:25] excellent and helping to really pull together the forecast and the model that hopefully of

[16:26] pull together the forecast and the model that hopefully of time for rain will be able to

[16:26] the model that hopefully of time for rain will be able to share a little sneak peek with

[16:28] time for rain will be able to share a little sneak peek with you all. But that ultimately

[16:30] share a little sneak peek with you all. But that ultimately will be delivering and passing

[16:33] you all. But that ultimately will be delivering and passing on to the county staff. So R

[16:34] will be delivering and passing on to the county staff. So R work began. We’re start to

[16:36] on to the county staff. So R work began. We’re start to contract in March this year

[16:37] work began. We’re start to contract in March this year to develop a multi-year

[16:39] contract in March this year to develop a multi-year financial forecast for the

[16:40] to develop a multi-year financial forecast for the county. So as a part of this,

[16:43] financial forecast for the county. So as a part of this, we assess the county’s

[16:44] county. So as a part of this, we assess the county’s historical general fund

[16:45] we assess the county’s historical general fund revenues and expenditures to

[16:46] historical general fund revenues and expenditures to understand the drivers of your

[16:47] revenues and expenditures to understand the drivers of your financial protection pull

[16:50] understand the drivers of your financial protection pull together. The model, the

[16:51] financial protection pull together. The model, the forecasts itself is really

[16:52] together. The model, the forecasts itself is really focused on the below items

[16:55] forecasts itself is really focused on the below items highlighted on the screen,

[16:56] focused on the below items highlighted on the screen, forecasting or financial

[16:57] highlighted on the screen, forecasting or financial trajectory over the next 5

[16:59] forecasting or financial trajectory over the next 5 years, analyzing some key

[17:01] trajectory over the next 5 years, analyzing some key demographic economic budgetary

[17:03] years, analyzing some key demographic economic budgetary trends that impact your

[17:06] demographic economic budgetary trends that impact your finances, it and providing

[17:06] trends that impact your finances, it and providing recommendations on some best

[17:07] finances, it and providing recommendations on some best practices around financial and

[17:09] recommendations on some best practices around financial and budget management and fiscal

[17:11] practices around financial and budget management and fiscal policy. So as I said at the

[17:13] budget management and fiscal policy. So as I said at the end, not only do we have a much

[17:14] policy. So as I said at the end, not only do we have a much fuller report in the one that

[17:15] end, not only do we have a much fuller report in the one that I’m going to share with you all

[17:17] fuller report in the one that I’m going to share with you all this morning that we share that

[17:19] I’m going to share with you all this morning that we share that really outlines how the model

[17:21] this morning that we share that really outlines how the model works. All of the assumptions,

[17:21] really outlines how the model works. All of the assumptions, the key drivers, things to keep

[17:25] works. All of the assumptions, the key drivers, things to keep in mind and also shares.

[17:25] the key drivers, things to keep in mind and also shares. We’re going to be sharing and

[17:27] in mind and also shares. We’re going to be sharing and training the staff on the

[17:28] We’re going to be sharing and training the staff on the actual tool, which is at Excela

[17:31] training the staff on the actual tool, which is at Excela based financial model that you

[17:31] actual tool, which is at Excela based financial model that you will be able to update on a

[17:34] based financial model that you will be able to update on a regular basis. So then now you

[17:34] will be able to update on a regular basis. So then now you are able to consistently see a

[17:36] regular basis. So then now you are able to consistently see a 5 year outlook from your annual

[17:39] are able to consistently see a 5 year outlook from your annual budget.

[17:41] 5 year outlook from your annual budget. So this morning, all share a

[17:42] budget. So this morning, all share a little bit about the forecast.

[17:44] So this morning, all share a little bit about the forecast. Talk about some of the

[17:45] little bit about the forecast. Talk about some of the assumptions and talk a little

[17:46] Talk about some of the assumptions and talk a little bit about some of our findings

[17:46] assumptions and talk a little bit about some of our findings and items to keep in mind for a

[17:49] bit about some of our findings and items to keep in mind for a path forward. As you all know,

[17:52] and items to keep in mind for a path forward. As you all know, procure this work, a multi-year

[17:53] path forward. As you all know, procure this work, a multi-year financial forecast really

[17:55] procure this work, a multi-year financial forecast really offers a diagnosis of your

[17:56] financial forecast really offers a diagnosis of your finances. It’s considered a

[18:00] offers a diagnosis of your finances. It’s considered a best practice by S p Fitch as

[18:01] finances. It’s considered a best practice by S p Fitch as well as in the forecast that we

[18:02] best practice by S p Fitch as well as in the forecast that we provide is in a dynamic easy to

[18:05] well as in the forecast that we provide is in a dynamic easy to update multi-year excelled base

[18:06] provide is in a dynamic easy to update multi-year excelled base model and it helps to sort of

[18:09] update multi-year excelled base model and it helps to sort of reflect it what the county’s

[18:09] model and it helps to sort of reflect it what the county’s directory if you maintain the

[18:11] reflect it what the county’s directory if you maintain the status quo. So if you consider

[18:12] directory if you maintain the status quo. So if you consider yourself taking your hands off

[18:15] status quo. So if you consider yourself taking your hands off of the wheel over the next 5

[18:18] yourself taking your hands off of the wheel over the next 5 years, making no major changes.

[18:20] of the wheel over the next 5 years, making no major changes. What with the financial

[18:22] years, making no major changes. What with the financial position of the county look

[18:24] What with the financial position of the county look like? So when we’re creating

[18:25] position of the county look like? So when we’re creating this forecast, we go all the

[18:25] like? So when we’re creating this forecast, we go all the way down to the line item level

[18:28] this forecast, we go all the way down to the line item level of detail. We worked with

[18:31] way down to the line item level of detail. We worked with county staff to understand the

[18:33] of detail. We worked with county staff to understand the nuances of not only your

[18:35] county staff to understand the nuances of not only your financial policies, your

[18:37] nuances of not only your financial policies, your structure, your financial data,

[18:38] financial policies, your structure, your financial data, and then we apply growth rates

[18:40] structure, your financial data, and then we apply growth rates associated with those major

[18:41] and then we apply growth rates associated with those major categories that helps to build

[18:43] associated with those major categories that helps to build out the actual forecast itself.

[18:45] categories that helps to build out the actual forecast itself. The forecast is built on the

[18:48] out the actual forecast itself. The forecast is built on the fy 25 adopt a budget and then

[18:49] The forecast is built on the fy 25 adopt a budget and then applies growth rates of those

[18:51] fy 25 adopt a budget and then applies growth rates of those project of years. And of

[18:52] applies growth rates of those project of years. And of course, assuming no corrective

[18:53] project of years. And of course, assuming no corrective action, which we’ll talk a

[18:54] course, assuming no corrective action, which we’ll talk a little bit about in the second.

[18:55] action, which we’ll talk a little bit about in the second. It shows what the financial

[18:56] little bit about in the second. It shows what the financial forecast of the county would

[19:00] It shows what the financial forecast of the county would be. For the model we make sure

[19:01] forecast of the county would be. For the model we make sure to really integrate in your

[19:03] be. For the model we make sure to really integrate in your key elements. The models

[19:04] to really integrate in your key elements. The models primarily focused on the

[19:05] key elements. The models primarily focused on the general fund, but does have

[19:07] primarily focused on the general fund, but does have the ability to consider the

[19:08] general fund, but does have the ability to consider the impact of some of your other

[19:11] the ability to consider the impact of some of your other major funding streams that are

[19:12] impact of some of your other major funding streams that are incorporated as you all conduct

[19:15] major funding streams that are incorporated as you all conduct your business.

[19:16] incorporated as you all conduct your business. It skews me and incorporates

[19:18] your business. It skews me and incorporates you’re as crazy Reserve policy

[19:19] It skews me and incorporates you’re as crazy Reserve policy and that policy is incorporated

[19:22] you’re as crazy Reserve policy and that policy is incorporated into the model. So within the

[19:23] and that policy is incorporated into the model. So within the baseline itself, which I’ll

[19:25] into the model. So within the baseline itself, which I’ll show you in just a couple of

[19:27] baseline itself, which I’ll show you in just a couple of slides, it’s projected to have

[19:29] show you in just a couple of slides, it’s projected to have a consistent 15% of total

[19:30] slides, it’s projected to have a consistent 15% of total operating expenditures, which

[19:34] a consistent 15% of total operating expenditures, which is about 54 days.

[19:36] operating expenditures, which is about 54 days. Approximately. And then your

[19:37] is about 54 days. Approximately. And then your Reserve fund Budget Budget Fund

[19:37] Approximately. And then your Reserve fund Budget Budget Fund balance. Excuse me, ranges from

[19:41] Reserve fund Budget Budget Fund balance. Excuse me, ranges from about 22.3. 26.7 million over

[19:43] balance. Excuse me, ranges from about 22.3. 26.7 million over the course of the rejection

[19:45] about 22.3. 26.7 million over the course of the rejection within the projection itself.

[19:48] the course of the rejection within the projection itself. There are various options from

[19:48] within the projection itself. There are various options from modeling. What differences in

[19:49] There are various options from modeling. What differences in your reserve fund balance

[19:52] modeling. What differences in your reserve fund balance levels. Look like so if the

[19:53] your reserve fund balance levels. Look like so if the county moved to an 8 or wanted

[19:55] levels. Look like so if the county moved to an 8 or wanted to go up to the 17, the to

[19:57] county moved to an 8 or wanted to go up to the 17, the to balance of your ranges in your

[19:58] to go up to the 17, the to balance of your ranges in your policy. There’s a mechanism to

[20:00] balance of your ranges in your policy. There’s a mechanism to turn those switches on and off

[20:00] policy. There’s a mechanism to turn those switches on and off to see what the fiscal impact

[20:04] turn those switches on and off to see what the fiscal impact looks like over time.

[20:06] to see what the fiscal impact looks like over time. But we talked a little bit

[20:06] looks like over time. But we talked a little bit about the basin project itself.

[20:09] But we talked a little bit about the basin project itself. So

[20:12] about the basin project itself. So baseline it takes into account

[20:13] So baseline it takes into account your historical data from Fy

[20:15] baseline it takes into account your historical data from Fy 2019 Fy 2024.

[20:17] your historical data from Fy 2019 Fy 2024. >> And then projects out to

[20:21] 2019 Fy 2024. >> And then projects out to from Fy. 26 to Fy 2030. You’ll

[20:22] >> And then projects out to from Fy. 26 to Fy 2030. You’ll see when we get to the baseline

[20:24] from Fy. 26 to Fy 2030. You’ll see when we get to the baseline slide in just a second that

[20:26] see when we get to the baseline slide in just a second that it’ll show your surplus

[20:26] slide in just a second that it’ll show your surplus deficit, which is representing

[20:28] it’ll show your surplus deficit, which is representing county’s total revenues last

[20:30] deficit, which is representing county’s total revenues last year. Expenditures. And then

[20:31] county’s total revenues last year. Expenditures. And then your county’s ending fund

[20:33] year. Expenditures. And then your county’s ending fund balance as represented and this

[20:36] your county’s ending fund balance as represented and this fund balance includes also

[20:36] balance as represented and this fund balance includes also elements of your strict ID

[20:39] fund balance includes also elements of your strict ID funds as well. Within these

[20:40] elements of your strict ID funds as well. Within these figures and calculations.

[20:40] funds as well. Within these figures and calculations. We also incorporate your carry

[20:44] figures and calculations. We also incorporate your carry out, which is the one that

[20:46] We also incorporate your carry out, which is the one that fiscal year’s revenues exceed

[20:48] out, which is the one that fiscal year’s revenues exceed this school year expenditures

[20:49] fiscal year’s revenues exceed this school year expenditures that availability Carryforward

[20:51] this school year expenditures that availability Carryforward is also incorporated over time.

[20:52] that availability Carryforward is also incorporated over time. And we’ll talk a little bit

[20:53] is also incorporated over time. And we’ll talk a little bit about how that Carryforward is.

[20:58] And we’ll talk a little bit about how that Carryforward is. Over. Times begins to decline

[21:00] about how that Carryforward is. Over. Times begins to decline because of the sort of

[21:01] Over. Times begins to decline because of the sort of structural nuances of your

[21:04] because of the sort of structural nuances of your budget. So so this is the such

[21:06] structural nuances of your budget. So so this is the such as counties 5, your baseline

[21:07] budget. So so this is the such as counties 5, your baseline projection, the forecast, as

[21:08] as counties 5, your baseline projection, the forecast, as I said, is protected from Fy.

[21:12] projection, the forecast, as I said, is protected from Fy. 26 to Fy 30, the Blue Bar is

[21:14] I said, is protected from Fy. 26 to Fy 30, the Blue Bar is your ending fund inclusive l

[21:16] 26 to Fy 30, the Blue Bar is your ending fund inclusive l all of your restrictive

[21:18] your ending fund inclusive l all of your restrictive reserves for the general fund

[21:18] all of your restrictive reserves for the general fund and then the Ghraib are is your

[21:20] reserves for the general fund and then the Ghraib are is your surplus deficit. So you’ll see

[21:24] and then the Ghraib are is your surplus deficit. So you’ll see that and projected years.

[21:27] surplus deficit. So you’ll see that and projected years. Fy 26 through Fy 28. You have

[21:30] that and projected years. Fy 26 through Fy 28. You have a surplus, but still a

[21:31] Fy 26 through Fy 28. You have a surplus, but still a declining surplus in the outer

[21:32] a surplus, but still a declining surplus in the outer years of the forecast starting

[21:35] declining surplus in the outer years of the forecast starting in Fy 29 to 30, you start to

[21:36] years of the forecast starting in Fy 29 to 30, you start to see that surplus would go down

[21:39] in Fy 29 to 30, you start to see that surplus would go down into a deficit.

[21:41] see that surplus would go down into a deficit. Because the county chooses the

[21:42] into a deficit. Because the county chooses the required fund balance every

[21:44] Because the county chooses the required fund balance every year. It is possible that to

[21:46] required fund balance every year. It is possible that to implement fiscal policy

[21:47] year. It is possible that to implement fiscal policy decisions to avoid the year in

[21:49] implement fiscal policy decisions to avoid the year in deficits. In Fy 29. And that’s

[21:52] decisions to avoid the year in deficits. In Fy 29. And that’s why 29.30.

[21:54] deficits. In Fy 29. And that’s why 29.30. Some of the key drivers of

[21:58] why 29.30. Some of the key drivers of Model S using include I’m

[22:00] Some of the key drivers of Model S using include I’m focusing on, we assume or 6%

[22:03] Model S using include I’m focusing on, we assume or 6% projected growth in your ad.

[22:06] focusing on, we assume or 6% projected growth in your ad. Valorem taxes, 2% in sales and

[22:09] projected growth in your ad. Valorem taxes, 2% in sales and then we’re also assuming a 4%

[22:11] Valorem taxes, 2% in sales and then we’re also assuming a 4% protected compound annual

[22:14] then we’re also assuming a 4% protected compound annual growth rate annually for

[22:14] protected compound annual growth rate annually for personal services relating to

[22:16] growth rate annually for personal services relating to the Sheriff general operating

[22:17] personal services relating to the Sheriff general operating and then around another 4% for

[22:20] the Sheriff general operating and then around another 4% for non elected official personnel.

[22:21] and then around another 4% for non elected official personnel. We assume a 9% projected growth

[22:24] non elected official personnel. We assume a 9% projected growth in your retirement

[22:26] We assume a 9% projected growth in your retirement contributions. And then another

[22:26] in your retirement contributions. And then another 10% growth in your detention

[22:29] contributions. And then another 10% growth in your detention facility. Contract. And about a

[22:32] 10% growth in your detention facility. Contract. And about a 2%, 2 and a half percent growth

[22:33] facility. Contract. And about a 2%, 2 and a half percent growth for your capital outlay lines.

[22:34] 2%, 2 and a half percent growth for your capital outlay lines. And these are sort of

[22:35] for your capital outlay lines. And these are sort of highlighted because they are

[22:38] And these are sort of highlighted because they are the major components of your

[22:40] highlighted because they are the major components of your budget that are really driving

[22:42] the major components of your budget that are really driving your ability to have these the

[22:45] budget that are really driving your ability to have these the projection over time. So a

[22:45] your ability to have these the projection over time. So a little bit of just about your

[22:48] projection over time. So a little bit of just about your baseline.

[22:49] little bit of just about your baseline. >> You’ll see here that

[22:53] baseline. >> You’ll see here that generally you have a the growth

[22:55] >> You’ll see here that generally you have a the growth in your taxes is really the

[22:55] generally you have a the growth in your taxes is really the driver on the revenue side of

[22:58] in your taxes is really the driver on the revenue side of your growth. You’ll see that

[23:01] driver on the revenue side of your growth. You’ll see that 5.5 total revenue percent

[23:02] your growth. You’ll see that 5.5 total revenue percent growth versus the 4 and a half

[23:04] 5.5 total revenue percent growth versus the 4 and a half percent total expenditures.

[23:05] growth versus the 4 and a half percent total expenditures. And this is important to see.

[23:08] percent total expenditures. And this is important to see. But it is a lot can be a little

[23:10] And this is important to see. But it is a lot can be a little misleading because the

[23:11] But it is a lot can be a little misleading because the carryforward amount really does

[23:13] misleading because the carryforward amount really does operate a major portion of your

[23:15] carryforward amount really does operate a major portion of your base and how this city how the

[23:17] operate a major portion of your base and how this city how the county considers and monitors

[23:20] base and how this city how the county considers and monitors their expenditures. And is able

[23:21] county considers and monitors their expenditures. And is able to pay for their expenditures

[23:23] their expenditures. And is able to pay for their expenditures over day-to-day basis. So any

[23:26] to pay for their expenditures over day-to-day basis. So any scenario that exhaust that

[23:27] over day-to-day basis. So any scenario that exhaust that carryforward puts the county

[23:28] scenario that exhaust that carryforward puts the county reserves and of challenging

[23:30] carryforward puts the county reserves and of challenging fiscal position within 2 to

[23:33] reserves and of challenging fiscal position within 2 to 3 fiscal years. And this is

[23:36] fiscal position within 2 to 3 fiscal years. And this is recognize here. So right now

[23:37] 3 fiscal years. And this is recognize here. So right now we’re showing the total percent

[23:39] recognize here. So right now we’re showing the total percent of your total sort of revenue

[23:41] we’re showing the total percent of your total sort of revenue base to the class is sure

[23:44] of your total sort of revenue base to the class is sure Commissioner Frank and open

[23:45] base to the class is sure Commissioner Frank and open >> Sorry for the interruption,

[23:46] Commissioner Frank and open >> Sorry for the interruption, sir, about waiting. And then I

[23:48] >> Sorry for the interruption, sir, about waiting. And then I noticed all of the pages that

[23:50] sir, about waiting. And then I noticed all of the pages that we have to go in and I were

[23:51] noticed all of the pages that we have to go in and I were going to get so last week.

[23:52] we have to go in and I were going to get so last week. I we have a big yes. I think

[23:53] going to get so last week. I we have a big yes. I think you all have the full 75 pager.

[23:56] I we have a big yes. I think you all have the full 75 pager. They haven’t. 25 slide. So

[23:58] you all have the full 75 pager. They haven’t. 25 slide. So we’re we’re. We’re gonna keep

[23:58] They haven’t. 25 slide. So we’re we’re. We’re gonna keep it short and sweet. But yes,

[24:00] we’re we’re. We’re gonna keep it short and sweet. But yes, please. I love your question.

[24:01] it short and sweet. But yes, please. I love your question. If I’m a couple slides back

[24:04] please. I love your question. If I’m a couple slides back on the five-year baseline

[24:05] If I’m a couple slides back on the five-year baseline projection. I was trying to

[24:07] on the five-year baseline projection. I was trying to take out the answer as he went

[24:09] projection. I was trying to take out the answer as he went on. But why do you feel like

[24:13] take out the answer as he went on. But why do you feel like it looks like revenues go up,

[24:16] on. But why do you feel like it looks like revenues go up, which is expected being has

[24:17] it looks like revenues go up, which is expected being has house fires got more. People

[24:17] which is expected being has house fires got more. People are moving here. Absolutely.

[24:20] house fires got more. People are moving here. Absolutely. I can understand if you are

[24:22] are moving here. Absolutely. I can understand if you are saying you see the population

[24:25] I can understand if you are saying you see the population staying flat, why would the

[24:27] saying you see the population staying flat, why would the why would our revenues go down?

[24:30] staying flat, why would the why would our revenues go down? And 29 30, what? What brought

[24:31] why would our revenues go down? And 29 30, what? What brought you to that projection? Got it.

[24:34] And 29 30, what? What brought you to that projection? Got it. So it’s it’s actually not

[24:35] you to that projection? Got it. So it’s it’s actually not revenues going down its your

[24:35] So it’s it’s actually not revenues going down its your carryforward going down the

[24:39] revenues going down its your carryforward going down the that the ability.

[24:40] carryforward going down the that the ability. >> That gray bar includes not

[24:43] that the ability. >> That gray bar includes not only your revenues

[24:44] >> That gray bar includes not only your revenues expenditures, but also in Italy

[24:45] only your revenues expenditures, but also in Italy in the annual carryforward him

[24:47] expenditures, but also in Italy in the annual carryforward him out. As you have that

[24:47] in the annual carryforward him out. As you have that carryforward, it starts off

[24:51] out. As you have that carryforward, it starts off very strong. I think close to

[24:53] carryforward, it starts off very strong. I think close to 20 give you the exact number.

[24:55] very strong. I think close to 20 give you the exact number. 27. Yeah, I think it’s close

[24:59] 20 give you the exact number. 27. Yeah, I think it’s close to 27 Million. 40 minutes or

[25:01] 27. Yeah, I think it’s close to 27 Million. 40 minutes or skis. A 40.5 billion in Fy 25

[25:02] to 27 Million. 40 minutes or skis. A 40.5 billion in Fy 25 that provides us strong base to

[25:06] skis. A 40.5 billion in Fy 25 that provides us strong base to start from over time going into

[25:09] that provides us strong base to start from over time going into fy. 26 drops down to

[25:10] start from over time going into fy. 26 drops down to 27 Million. Then to 19 million,

[25:13] fy. 26 drops down to 27 Million. Then to 19 million, 10 to 11 2028. by

[25:16] 27 Million. Then to 19 million, 10 to 11 2028. by Twenty-thirty. It’s at 1.7

[25:17] 10 to 11 2028. by Twenty-thirty. It’s at 1.7 million. So that decline in

[25:18] Twenty-thirty. It’s at 1.7 million. So that decline in the availability of that

[25:20] million. So that decline in the availability of that Carryforward is really what’s

[25:22] the availability of that Carryforward is really what’s driving partially. It’s the

[25:23] Carryforward is really what’s driving partially. It’s the extending growth of your

[25:25] driving partially. It’s the extending growth of your expenditures and then the that

[25:27] extending growth of your expenditures and then the that decline in the carryforward

[25:28] expenditures and then the that decline in the carryforward about that’s available. Tat’s

[25:30] decline in the carryforward about that’s available. Tat’s cushioning the the surplus

[25:33] about that’s available. Tat’s cushioning the the surplus here.

[25:33] cushioning the the surplus here. >> And why do you think that’s

[25:37] here. >> And why do you think that’s going to go down?

[25:38] >> And why do you think that’s going to go down? Because of the extending growth

[25:40] going to go down? Because of the extending growth in here? And actually let me

[25:40] Because of the extending growth in here? And actually let me Popovic’s. I think this will

[25:43] in here? And actually let me Popovic’s. I think this will help. So your carryforward

[25:45] Popovic’s. I think this will help. So your carryforward makes up. 22 1% of your total

[25:51] help. So your carryforward makes up. 22 1% of your total revenue base in Fy 25 your

[25:51] makes up. 22 1% of your total revenue base in Fy 25 your budget. You’ve been you’ve been

[25:52] revenue base in Fy 25 your budget. You’ve been you’ve been balancing your budget,

[25:54] budget. You’ve been you’ve been balancing your budget, particularly using that

[25:55] balancing your budget, particularly using that carryforward without the

[25:58] particularly using that carryforward without the carryforward. It declines your

[26:01] carryforward without the carryforward. It declines your total tax faces 90%. And so

[26:02] carryforward. It declines your total tax faces 90%. And so your reliance on that

[26:06] total tax faces 90%. And so your reliance on that carryforward is I think a risk

[26:08] your reliance on that carryforward is I think a risk as a part of how you all are

[26:10] carryforward is I think a risk as a part of how you all are managing your expenditures

[26:13] as a part of how you all are managing your expenditures itself are not exceeding your

[26:13] managing your expenditures itself are not exceeding your are your current revenues

[26:15] itself are not exceeding your are your current revenues without the carryforward are

[26:18] are your current revenues without the carryforward are not able to keep pace with your

[26:19] without the carryforward are not able to keep pace with your expenditures. What you’re able

[26:20] not able to keep pace with your expenditures. What you’re able to keep that pace with the

[26:21] expenditures. What you’re able to keep that pace with the Kerry for going forward?

[26:25] to keep that pace with the Kerry for going forward? Well, that I guess I don’t

[26:26] Kerry for going forward? Well, that I guess I don’t quickly grew because we have to

[26:29] Well, that I guess I don’t quickly grew because we have to have a reserve budget for

[26:30] quickly grew because we have to have a reserve budget for emergencies or so. We need to

[26:32] have a reserve budget for emergencies or so. We need to have a large carryforward and

[26:33] emergencies or so. We need to have a large carryforward and when nothing happens. Thank

[26:35] have a large carryforward and when nothing happens. Thank you, Lord.

[26:37] when nothing happens. Thank you, Lord. >> It has to be carried

[26:38] you, Lord. >> It has to be carried forward. I know you see that

[26:41] >> It has to be carried forward. I know you see that as a risk. But to me that.

[26:42] forward. I know you see that as a risk. But to me that. >> That seems prudent now.

[26:43] as a risk. But to me that. >> That seems prudent now. So you’re maintaining your

[26:43] >> That seems prudent now. So you’re maintaining your reserve levels, which is why

[26:46] So you’re maintaining your reserve levels, which is why the Blue bar.

[26:49] reserve levels, which is why the Blue bar. >> In the prior slide continues

[26:50] the Blue bar. >> In the prior slide continues over time. You still having a

[26:53] >> In the prior slide continues over time. You still having a healthy reserve, but you’re

[26:54] over time. You still having a healthy reserve, but you’re using because the carryforward

[26:56] healthy reserve, but you’re using because the carryforward is used as an operating funding

[26:58] using because the carryforward is used as an operating funding mechanism as you’re operating

[27:00] is used as an operating funding mechanism as you’re operating expenses, grow over time.

[27:01] mechanism as you’re operating expenses, grow over time. That carryforward again, if you

[27:02] expenses, grow over time. That carryforward again, if you took your hands off the wheel

[27:04] That carryforward again, if you took your hands off the wheel and or not changing posse of

[27:05] took your hands off the wheel and or not changing posse of changing your practices on a

[27:07] and or not changing posse of changing your practices on a year to year basis and are

[27:08] changing your practices on a year to year basis and are letting story of the

[27:09] year to year basis and are letting story of the projections do their thing.

[27:11] letting story of the projections do their thing. This is actually the outlook

[27:12] projections do their thing. This is actually the outlook that you would see you would

[27:14] This is actually the outlook that you would see you would spend down that carry forward

[27:15] that you would see you would spend down that carry forward at a faster rate than you

[27:17] spend down that carry forward at a faster rate than you probably otherwise would have

[27:18] at a faster rate than you probably otherwise would have as you’re making annual

[27:20] probably otherwise would have as you’re making annual spending decisions.

[27:23] as you’re making annual spending decisions. >> So you’re just assuming that

[27:25] spending decisions. >> So you’re just assuming that we’re going to be spending more

[27:26] >> So you’re just assuming that we’re going to be spending more in the growth isn’t keeping up

[27:27] we’re going to be spending more in the growth isn’t keeping up with it. So then we’re going to

[27:30] in the growth isn’t keeping up with it. So then we’re going to start dipping into our

[27:31] with it. So then we’re going to start dipping into our carryforward. Yes. So you’re

[27:32] start dipping into our carryforward. Yes. So you’re aware, assuming because based

[27:33] carryforward. Yes. So you’re aware, assuming because based on how the projections worth

[27:35] aware, assuming because based on how the projections worth you start with the

[27:36] on how the projections worth you start with the carryforward. You include that

[27:39] you start with the carryforward. You include that basin. The start.

[27:41] carryforward. You include that basin. The start. >> And and the and less there’s

[27:42] basin. The start. >> And and the and less there’s a surplus in that fiscal year.

[27:43] >> And and the and less there’s a surplus in that fiscal year. That is what’s then being put

[27:45] a surplus in that fiscal year. That is what’s then being put back into the carryforward.

[27:47] That is what’s then being put back into the carryforward. >> And the following year

[27:48] back into the carryforward. >> And the following year because you’re not there’s a

[27:50] >> And the following year because you’re not there’s a structural imbalance between

[27:50] because you’re not there’s a structural imbalance between you’re operating revenues,

[27:52] structural imbalance between you’re operating revenues, you’re operating expenditures.

[27:54] you’re operating revenues, you’re operating expenditures. You’re not seeing as strong of

[27:55] you’re operating expenditures. You’re not seeing as strong of a surplus being able to put

[27:57] You’re not seeing as strong of a surplus being able to put back into the carryforward to

[27:58] a surplus being able to put back into the carryforward to make that base stronger from

[28:01] back into the carryforward to make that base stronger from year to year.

[28:03] make that base stronger from year to year. Commissioner Kerik Skis I’m

[28:05] year to year. Commissioner Kerik Skis I’m sorry, Commissioner, I’m sorry.

[28:09] Commissioner Kerik Skis I’m sorry, Commissioner, I’m sorry. Mister Davis.

[28:10] sorry, Commissioner, I’m sorry. Mister Davis. >> I I figured all that out.

[28:11] Mister Davis. >> I I figured all that out. It is essentially I think if

[28:14] >> I I figured all that out. It is essentially I think if you look at it from me, sort

[28:15] It is essentially I think if you look at it from me, sort of a common sense standpoint,

[28:16] you look at it from me, sort of a common sense standpoint, we’re always told that

[28:19] of a common sense standpoint, we’re always told that residential growth cost more.

[28:20] we’re always told that residential growth cost more. >> Then they pay in taxes,

[28:22] residential growth cost more. >> Then they pay in taxes, chair and commercial and

[28:23] >> Then they pay in taxes, chair and commercial and industrial pay more in taxes

[28:25] chair and commercial and industrial pay more in taxes than they take in services.

[28:27] industrial pay more in taxes than they take in services. And so does this. Did you work

[28:28] than they take in services. And so does this. Did you work with Metro development forecast

[28:32] And so does this. Did you work with Metro development forecast in terms of what what we

[28:33] with Metro development forecast in terms of what what we currently have zoned commercial

[28:35] in terms of what what we currently have zoned commercial and industrial and AG, which

[28:38] currently have zoned commercial and industrial and AG, which are all part of net positive,

[28:39] and industrial and AG, which are all part of net positive, too.

[28:39] are all part of net positive, too. >> The tax base. So we did.

[28:40] too. >> The tax base. So we did. We did take into account the

[28:41] >> The tax base. So we did. We did take into account the Metro forecasts projections.

[28:44] We did take into account the Metro forecasts projections. So those are included.

[28:45] Metro forecasts projections. So those are included. >> And the projections for the

[28:47] So those are included. >> And the projections for the property tax.

[28:48] >> And the projections for the property tax. >> As well as any of the other

[28:49] property tax. >> As well as any of the other economically driven

[28:52] >> As well as any of the other economically driven assumptions. We did use the

[28:53] economically driven assumptions. We did use the Metro forecasters report as the

[28:56] assumptions. We did use the Metro forecasters report as the basis of those projections.

[28:58] Metro forecasters report as the basis of those projections. Okay. So we do have a chance

[29:01] basis of those projections. Okay. So we do have a chance >> potentially.

[29:02] Okay. So we do have a chance >> potentially. Change the south going with the

[29:04] >> potentially. Change the south going with the zoning decision? Absolutely.

[29:05] Change the south going with the zoning decision? Absolutely. You know that the model itself

[29:07] zoning decision? Absolutely. You know that the model itself is built very flexibly so that

[29:10] You know that the model itself is built very flexibly so that they any county person can go

[29:11] is built very flexibly so that they any county person can go in.

[29:11] they any county person can go in. >> Change the numbers, change

[29:12] in. >> Change the numbers, change the percentages. So if you have

[29:14] >> Change the numbers, change the percentages. So if you have updated numbers from Metro

[29:15] the percentages. So if you have updated numbers from Metro forecasters as you have a

[29:16] updated numbers from Metro forecasters as you have a different assumptions that

[29:17] forecasters as you have a different assumptions that either come down from the state

[29:18] different assumptions that either come down from the state or from policy decisions out of

[29:20] either come down from the state or from policy decisions out of this group, this elected body,

[29:22] or from policy decisions out of this group, this elected body, you all can make those changes

[29:23] this group, this elected body, you all can make those changes and see that this could impact

[29:24] you all can make those changes and see that this could impact over time. Not only in the

[29:26] and see that this could impact over time. Not only in the first year of the that budget,

[29:28] over time. Not only in the first year of the that budget, but also in future years.

[29:29] first year of the that budget, but also in future years. Super thank you, Chair

[29:32] but also in future years. Super thank you, Chair Commissioner Barry.

[29:33] Super thank you, Chair Commissioner Barry. >> I have a question. This man,

[29:34] Commissioner Barry. >> I have a question. This man, if the reserves amount that

[29:36] >> I have a question. This man, if the reserves amount that we take every year and set

[29:41] if the reserves amount that we take every year and set aside increase. Because if

[29:44] we take every year and set aside increase. Because if we’re getting more money.

[29:44] aside increase. Because if we’re getting more money. Okay from the Bab rejection

[29:46] we’re getting more money. Okay from the Bab rejection because we actually have more

[29:48] Okay from the Bab rejection because we actually have more population. We have more

[29:51] because we actually have more population. We have more businesses so our income where

[29:53] population. We have more businesses so our income where revenue is increasing okay.

[29:57] businesses so our income where revenue is increasing okay. I I agree. The reserve should

[29:59] revenue is increasing okay. I I agree. The reserve should also be increasing because if

[30:02] I I agree. The reserve should also be increasing because if I take and I increase which

[30:03] also be increasing because if I take and I increase which coming in and I also increased

[30:05] I take and I increase which coming in and I also increased that’s good increased what I’m

[30:09] coming in and I also increased that’s good increased what I’m going to set aside so that’s

[30:09] that’s good increased what I’m going to set aside so that’s why I don’t understand where

[30:10] going to set aside so that’s why I don’t understand where you’re getting negative numbers

[30:13] why I don’t understand where you’re getting negative numbers for this. You know, surplus

[30:15] you’re getting negative numbers for this. You know, surplus because if I’m getting more set

[30:18] for this. You know, surplus because if I’m getting more set aside every year.

[30:21] because if I’m getting more set aside every year. It has to be growing,

[30:22] aside every year. It has to be growing, not shrinking.

[30:22] It has to be growing, not shrinking. >> You are growing. Your

[30:23] not shrinking. >> You are growing. Your revenue bases are growing, but

[30:24] >> You are growing. Your revenue bases are growing, but your expenditures are going

[30:27] revenue bases are growing, but your expenditures are going faster, which is I think the

[30:29] your expenditures are going faster, which is I think the piece of this that is the

[30:30] faster, which is I think the piece of this that is the particularly when you pull the

[30:32] piece of this that is the particularly when you pull the carryforward out the growth

[30:34] particularly when you pull the carryforward out the growth of your expenditures is far

[30:36] carryforward out the growth of your expenditures is far outpacing your revenue base

[30:39] of your expenditures is far outpacing your revenue base and that using the metro

[30:40] outpacing your revenue base and that using the metro forecasting projections as to

[30:41] and that using the metro forecasting projections as to what we’re going to grow as a

[30:43] forecasting projections as to what we’re going to grow as a Yes, ma’am.

[30:43] what we’re going to grow as a Yes, ma’am. >> We’re still going to lose.

[30:47] Yes, ma’am. >> We’re still going to lose. You’re still going to have your

[30:48] >> We’re still going to lose. You’re still going to have your expenditures growing faster

[30:49] You’re still going to have your expenditures growing faster than your revenues. And a lot

[30:50] expenditures growing faster than your revenues. And a lot of that is built on.

[30:52] than your revenues. And a lot of that is built on. >> I would say assumptions an,

[30:53] of that is built on. >> I would say assumptions an, you know, decisions that may

[30:55] >> I would say assumptions an, you know, decisions that may not be fully in your control.

[30:56] you know, decisions that may not be fully in your control. The detention facility.

[30:59] not be fully in your control. The detention facility. Contractors is growing. Your

[30:59] The detention facility. Contractors is growing. Your costs on your elected

[31:00] Contractors is growing. Your costs on your elected officials, particularly out of

[31:03] costs on your elected officials, particularly out of this year. Our growing quite

[31:03] officials, particularly out of this year. Our growing quite fast and make up a large

[31:04] this year. Our growing quite fast and make up a large percentage of your expenditure

[31:08] fast and make up a large percentage of your expenditure base you’re also seeing

[31:09] percentage of your expenditure base you’re also seeing generally the growth in

[31:10] base you’re also seeing generally the growth in salaries and wages. All of that

[31:13] generally the growth in salaries and wages. All of that are growing at a at a pretty

[31:18] salaries and wages. All of that are growing at a at a pretty high clip in Those key drivers

[31:19] are growing at a at a pretty high clip in Those key drivers right here. These are really

[31:23] high clip in Those key drivers right here. These are really what’s driving.

[31:23] right here. These are really what’s driving. >> The faster pace expenditure

[31:25] what’s driving. >> The faster pace expenditure growth over your revenues?

[31:27] >> The faster pace expenditure growth over your revenues? I think with the continuation

[31:29] growth over your revenues? I think with the continuation of continuing to think about

[31:31] I think with the continuation of continuing to think about and trying to have annual

[31:32] of continuing to think about and trying to have annual conversations about how do you

[31:34] and trying to have annual conversations about how do you balance your expenditure

[31:35] conversations about how do you balance your expenditure burden.

[31:35] balance your expenditure burden. >> With your available revenues

[31:38] burden. >> With your available revenues or and or how do you increase

[31:40] >> With your available revenues or and or how do you increase your revenue diversification?

[31:42] or and or how do you increase your revenue diversification? How do you make sure that

[31:43] your revenue diversification? How do you make sure that you’re maxing out on things

[31:44] How do you make sure that you’re maxing out on things that will allow you to bring in

[31:46] you’re maxing out on things that will allow you to bring in more revenues on an annual

[31:49] that will allow you to bring in more revenues on an annual basis? This gap will not be

[31:49] more revenues on an annual basis? This gap will not be there because you all be making

[31:52] basis? This gap will not be there because you all be making the annual decisions to address

[31:54] there because you all be making the annual decisions to address any potential surplus deficit

[31:56] the annual decisions to address any potential surplus deficit in real time. The projection

[31:56] any potential surplus deficit in real time. The projection itself, like I said, is the

[31:59] in real time. The projection itself, like I said, is the status quo. If the if you

[32:01] itself, like I said, is the status quo. If the if you continue as you are with no

[32:04] status quo. If the if you continue as you are with no policy changes with no

[32:05] continue as you are with no policy changes with no effective changes, assuming the

[32:07] policy changes with no effective changes, assuming the growth that you’re likely to

[32:08] effective changes, assuming the growth that you’re likely to see based on the Metro

[32:09] growth that you’re likely to see based on the Metro forecasters projections on the

[32:11] see based on the Metro forecasters projections on the revenue side and based on some

[32:12] forecasters projections on the revenue side and based on some know notes on the expenditure

[32:14] revenue side and based on some know notes on the expenditure side.

[32:14] know notes on the expenditure side. >> Well, we’re not what I’m

[32:17] side. >> Well, we’re not what I’m thinking. News. Okay. As the

[32:21] >> Well, we’re not what I’m thinking. News. Okay. As the revenues grow, we also continue

[32:23] thinking. News. Okay. As the revenues grow, we also continue taking out users. Yes. So the

[32:25] revenues grow, we also continue taking out users. Yes. So the reserves have to grow because

[32:28] taking out users. Yes. So the reserves have to grow because the percentage, the amount, you

[32:29] reserves have to grow because the percentage, the amount, you know, knows the magic text on

[32:32] the percentage, the amount, you know, knows the magic text on instead of 100. It may be

[32:34] know, knows the magic text on instead of 100. It may be armed. 50 sure. Okay. So if

[32:38] instead of 100. It may be armed. 50 sure. Okay. So if I’m raising everything.

[32:40] armed. 50 sure. Okay. So if I’m raising everything. Then I still, you know, it

[32:41] I’m raising everything. Then I still, you know, it amazes me. How you tell me is

[32:42] Then I still, you know, it amazes me. How you tell me is going to shrink. You tell me

[32:44] amazes me. How you tell me is going to shrink. You tell me the expenses are going to go

[32:47] going to shrink. You tell me the expenses are going to go that fast. Yes, ma’am.

[32:52] the expenses are going to go that fast. Yes, ma’am. Commissioner Davis? see if I

[32:54] that fast. Yes, ma’am. Commissioner Davis? see if I can help clarify. We have been

[32:56] Commissioner Davis? see if I can help clarify. We have been told over and over and over

[33:00] can help clarify. We have been told over and over and over that the average.

[33:01] told over and over and over that the average. >> Cost per dollar paid into

[33:02] that the average. >> Cost per dollar paid into the system by residents.

[33:05] >> Cost per dollar paid into the system by residents. It costs U.S. dollar 50 to

[33:08] the system by residents. It costs U.S. dollar 50 to serve them. We are growing rez

[33:10] It costs U.S. dollar 50 to serve them. We are growing rez too fast and residential, not

[33:13] serve them. We are growing rez too fast and residential, not enough in commercial and

[33:14] too fast and residential, not enough in commercial and industrial Costa. 70 to serve

[33:17] enough in commercial and industrial Costa. 70 to serve every dollar that they pay n

[33:19] industrial Costa. 70 to serve every dollar that they pay n it costs us $0.30 to serve.

[33:22] every dollar that they pay n it costs us $0.30 to serve. Every dollar ad comes at this

[33:23] it costs us $0.30 to serve. Every dollar ad comes at this has been a cliff that we’ve

[33:27] Every dollar ad comes at this has been a cliff that we’ve been facing for a while by

[33:27] has been a cliff that we’ve been facing for a while by right development, personal

[33:30] been facing for a while by right development, personal property rights. And this is

[33:31] right development, personal property rights. And this is why on all of our zoning cases,

[33:35] property rights. And this is why on all of our zoning cases, we need to put more commercial

[33:36] why on all of our zoning cases, we need to put more commercial and more industrial in place.

[33:37] we need to put more commercial and more industrial in place. Obviously in the appropriate

[33:39] and more industrial in place. Obviously in the appropriate places, not, you know,

[33:41] Obviously in the appropriate places, not, you know, industrial next to a

[33:43] places, not, you know, industrial next to a neighborhood. Okay. But these

[33:45] industrial next to a neighborhood. Okay. But these are really critical policy

[33:46] neighborhood. Okay. But these are really critical policy decisions and I am very

[33:50] are really critical policy decisions and I am very thankful for the heads up.

[33:52] decisions and I am very thankful for the heads up. Any more questions. I think

[33:53] thankful for the heads up. Any more questions. I think some of this also clear,

[33:56] Any more questions. I think some of this also clear, clarify a little bit.

[33:56] some of this also clear, clarify a little bit. >> As we keep going. So we

[33:57] clarify a little bit. >> As we keep going. So we talked a little bit about the

[34:02] >> As we keep going. So we talked a little bit about the that really the dominance in

[34:02] talked a little bit about the that really the dominance in the reliant on carry forward

[34:05] that really the dominance in the reliant on carry forward and how that is playing a

[34:07] the reliant on carry forward and how that is playing a material role in your ability

[34:08] and how that is playing a material role in your ability to continue to replenish your

[34:10] material role in your ability to continue to replenish your live reserves as you want to

[34:11] to continue to replenish your live reserves as you want to based on your reserve policy,

[34:14] live reserves as you want to based on your reserve policy, but also to manage your annual

[34:17] based on your reserve policy, but also to manage your annual operating budget.

[34:18] but also to manage your annual operating budget. This I think maybe helps to

[34:19] operating budget. This I think maybe helps to clarify a little bit about

[34:22] This I think maybe helps to clarify a little bit about exactly how we’re leveraging

[34:23] clarify a little bit about exactly how we’re leveraging some of the different

[34:24] exactly how we’re leveraging some of the different projections and particularly on

[34:28] some of the different projections and particularly on the expenditure side. So 2024

[34:30] projections and particularly on the expenditure side. So 2024 increase, particularly due to

[34:31] the expenditure side. So 2024 increase, particularly due to a study generally closer to

[34:33] increase, particularly due to a study generally closer to 4% across the board increases

[34:35] a study generally closer to 4% across the board increases retirement contributions.

[34:36] 4% across the board increases retirement contributions. We know that those are going to

[34:38] retirement contributions. We know that those are going to grow that county share of your

[34:41] We know that those are going to grow that county share of your net pension liability. You’re

[34:43] grow that county share of your net pension liability. You’re max growth by the contract and

[34:45] net pension liability. You’re max growth by the contract and statue of the U.S. marshal are

[34:46] max growth by the contract and statue of the U.S. marshal are also driving your cars growth,

[34:48] statue of the U.S. marshal are also driving your cars growth, that detention facility

[34:49] also driving your cars growth, that detention facility contract and then as well as

[34:51] that detention facility contract and then as well as the capital outlay likely to

[34:53] contract and then as well as the capital outlay likely to increase closer to an

[34:56] the capital outlay likely to increase closer to an inflation. And then we’re also

[34:57] increase closer to an inflation. And then we’re also assuming these likely growth

[35:00] inflation. And then we’re also assuming these likely growth by the salaries and wages in

[35:03] assuming these likely growth by the salaries and wages in your general operating for the

[35:03] by the salaries and wages in your general operating for the sheriff’s office says, hey,

[35:07] your general operating for the sheriff’s office says, hey, you’re also on the sales tax

[35:07] sheriff’s office says, hey, you’re also on the sales tax side inspecting. I anticipate

[35:10] you’re also on the sales tax side inspecting. I anticipate Inc softer inflation over the

[35:12] side inspecting. I anticipate Inc softer inflation over the projection period, some of the

[35:14] Inc softer inflation over the projection period, some of the economic uncertainty continues

[35:17] projection period, some of the economic uncertainty continues to go about.

[35:19] economic uncertainty continues to go about. >> You’ll you’ll see here we I

[35:19] to go about. >> You’ll you’ll see here we I flagged this, particularly for

[35:22] >> You’ll you’ll see here we I flagged this, particularly for the detention facility. It is

[35:23] flagged this, particularly for the detention facility. It is your fastest growing

[35:26] the detention facility. It is your fastest growing expenditure roll up by far

[35:28] your fastest growing expenditure roll up by far largely due to the contracts in

[35:28] expenditure roll up by far largely due to the contracts in the statutes that govern how

[35:32] largely due to the contracts in the statutes that govern how those funds are spent so you’ll

[35:35] the statutes that govern how those funds are spent so you’ll see from Fy 25 budget. You’re

[35:37] those funds are spent so you’ll see from Fy 25 budget. You’re budgeting. 18.4 million in Fy

[35:39] see from Fy 25 budget. You’re budgeting. 18.4 million in Fy 25. It’s projected to grow to

[35:41] budgeting. 18.4 million in Fy 25. It’s projected to grow to almost 30 million by 2030.

[35:43] 25. It’s projected to grow to almost 30 million by 2030. That is a huge growth. And

[35:44] almost 30 million by 2030. That is a huge growth. And that’s of a lot of what’s

[35:47] That is a huge growth. And that’s of a lot of what’s driving the the the as deficit,

[35:49] that’s of a lot of what’s driving the the the as deficit, particularly in the out years.

[35:51] driving the the the as deficit, particularly in the out years. Is this very rapid growth that

[35:52] particularly in the out years. Is this very rapid growth that you’re seeing in your tunes

[35:55] Is this very rapid growth that you’re seeing in your tunes facility contract.

[35:58] you’re seeing in your tunes facility contract. So a path forward, you’re

[35:59] facility contract. So a path forward, you’re managing a modest structural

[36:01] So a path forward, you’re managing a modest structural surplus where your overall

[36:02] managing a modest structural surplus where your overall growth and your revenues

[36:04] surplus where your overall growth and your revenues slightly higher than your

[36:06] growth and your revenues slightly higher than your overall growth for your

[36:07] slightly higher than your overall growth for your expenditures. You have a

[36:08] overall growth for your expenditures. You have a healthy fund balance. And if

[36:09] expenditures. You have a healthy fund balance. And if current trends continue that

[36:10] healthy fund balance. And if current trends continue that fund balance will continue to

[36:13] current trends continue that fund balance will continue to increase. However, the use of

[36:15] fund balance will continue to increase. However, the use of your Kerry for does obscure

[36:15] increase. However, the use of your Kerry for does obscure your county’s true financial

[36:18] your Kerry for does obscure your county’s true financial picture. It without the yearly

[36:19] your county’s true financial picture. It without the yearly carryforward funds. The county

[36:21] picture. It without the yearly carryforward funds. The county is projected to run deficits

[36:24] carryforward funds. The county is projected to run deficits starting in 2029 2030, even

[36:25] is projected to run deficits starting in 2029 2030, even after incorporating funds that

[36:27] starting in 2029 2030, even after incorporating funds that would normally be applied from

[36:28] after incorporating funds that would normally be applied from the county’s Reserve Budget

[36:31] would normally be applied from the county’s Reserve Budget Fund balance. There are some

[36:32] the county’s Reserve Budget Fund balance. There are some steps that we would recommend

[36:34] Fund balance. There are some steps that we would recommend it thinking about your tax

[36:35] steps that we would recommend it thinking about your tax revenue. If you think back to

[36:38] it thinking about your tax revenue. If you think back to the

[36:39] revenue. If you think back to the the pie chart where you’ve got

[36:39] the the pie chart where you’ve got almost 90% when you’re

[36:41] the pie chart where you’ve got almost 90% when you’re excluding the carryforward of

[36:44] almost 90% when you’re excluding the carryforward of your revenues coming from

[36:45] excluding the carryforward of your revenues coming from taxes, thinking about either

[36:45] your revenues coming from taxes, thinking about either how to continue to build on

[36:49] taxes, thinking about either how to continue to build on that base, working with Metro

[36:49] how to continue to build on that base, working with Metro forecasters to understand what

[36:51] that base, working with Metro forecasters to understand what that growth will take over

[36:53] forecasters to understand what that growth will take over time. But also continuing to be

[36:55] that growth will take over time. But also continuing to be mindful of that changing in the

[36:55] time. But also continuing to be mindful of that changing in the economy and the rest,

[36:57] mindful of that changing in the economy and the rest, particularly on the sales tax

[36:58] economy and the rest, particularly on the sales tax side wanting to make sure that

[36:59] particularly on the sales tax side wanting to make sure that you have some diversification

[37:00] side wanting to make sure that you have some diversification on your revenue, particularly

[37:03] you have some diversification on your revenue, particularly on your taxes, thinking about

[37:06] on your revenue, particularly on your taxes, thinking about how you can decrease your

[37:06] on your taxes, thinking about how you can decrease your county expenditures,

[37:07] how you can decrease your county expenditures, particularly general operations

[37:09] county expenditures, particularly general operations related to the sheriff’s

[37:09] particularly general operations related to the sheriff’s office. If there are

[37:11] related to the sheriff’s office. If there are opportunities for efficiencies,

[37:12] office. If there are opportunities for efficiencies, if there are opportunities for

[37:14] opportunities for efficiencies, if there are opportunities for effectiveness of coordination

[37:16] if there are opportunities for effectiveness of coordination that can help to drive down or

[37:18] effectiveness of coordination that can help to drive down or to plateau those costs. That’s

[37:21] that can help to drive down or to plateau those costs. That’s worth exploring and then

[37:23] to plateau those costs. That’s worth exploring and then relying only on operating

[37:24] worth exploring and then relying only on operating revenues, expenditures in order

[37:25] relying only on operating revenues, expenditures in order to decrease your alliance on

[37:27] revenues, expenditures in order to decrease your alliance on the Kerry for going forward.

[37:28] to decrease your alliance on the Kerry for going forward. It’s another recommendation

[37:32] the Kerry for going forward. It’s another recommendation that we have thinking about

[37:32] It’s another recommendation that we have thinking about implementing controls and

[37:36] that we have thinking about implementing controls and policies to limit that Kerry

[37:36] implementing controls and policies to limit that Kerry Ford and the sort of the

[37:37] policies to limit that Kerry Ford and the sort of the appropriation of those rollover

[37:40] Ford and the sort of the appropriation of those rollover funds and then we’ve talked

[37:41] appropriation of those rollover funds and then we’ve talked with, I think almost all of the

[37:42] funds and then we’ve talked with, I think almost all of the all over the course of our work

[37:44] with, I think almost all of the all over the course of our work about the various capital

[37:45] all over the course of our work about the various capital needs, the projects, the

[37:46] about the various capital needs, the projects, the investments that the county

[37:47] needs, the projects, the investments that the county wants to make, that residents

[37:49] investments that the county wants to make, that residents are hoping to see. These are

[37:51] wants to make, that residents are hoping to see. These are all things in there. We’ve

[37:52] are hoping to see. These are all things in there. We’ve reviewed in your targets for

[37:53] all things in there. We’ve reviewed in your targets for action as well as your general

[37:55] reviewed in your targets for action as well as your general fund Cip project list thinking

[37:56] action as well as your general fund Cip project list thinking about how you’re prioritizing

[37:59] fund Cip project list thinking about how you’re prioritizing that work leveraging the fact

[37:59] about how you’re prioritizing that work leveraging the fact that you’re able to now see

[38:02] that work leveraging the fact that you’re able to now see a multi-year forecast thinking

[38:03] that you’re able to now see a multi-year forecast thinking about how you which of those

[38:05] a multi-year forecast thinking about how you which of those projects have the ability to

[38:07] about how you which of those projects have the ability to with the investment in one

[38:08] projects have the ability to with the investment in one year. Hopefully see some

[38:10] with the investment in one year. Hopefully see some savings, either maintenance

[38:12] year. Hopefully see some savings, either maintenance costs or other upkeep costs

[38:13] savings, either maintenance costs or other upkeep costs that you’re already carrying

[38:15] costs or other upkeep costs that you’re already carrying the burden for. If you are able

[38:16] that you’re already carrying the burden for. If you are able to sort of capture what those

[38:19] the burden for. If you are able to sort of capture what those savings are by the new

[38:19] to sort of capture what those savings are by the new investment, you’re then able

[38:22] savings are by the new investment, you’re then able to reinvest those costs into

[38:25] investment, you’re then able to reinvest those costs into new and more projects on your

[38:26] to reinvest those costs into new and more projects on your list. And that obviously

[38:27] new and more projects on your list. And that obviously continuing to update that based

[38:29] list. And that obviously continuing to update that based on forecasts and the key

[38:32] continuing to update that based on forecasts and the key assumptions. This is not a

[38:33] on forecasts and the key assumptions. This is not a production. It’s a projection.

[38:34] assumptions. This is not a production. It’s a projection. So these assumptions are meant

[38:35] production. It’s a projection. So these assumptions are meant to be re-evaluated. They’re

[38:38] So these assumptions are meant to be re-evaluated. They’re meant to be reviewed regularly.

[38:41] to be re-evaluated. They’re meant to be reviewed regularly. And I think they’re

[38:41] meant to be reviewed regularly. And I think they’re appropriately meant to be

[38:42] And I think they’re appropriately meant to be scrutinized to make sure that

[38:44] appropriately meant to be scrutinized to make sure that the projections themselves are

[38:45] scrutinized to make sure that the projections themselves are meaningful and are realistic

[38:47] the projections themselves are meaningful and are realistic based on the experiences of

[38:50] meaningful and are realistic based on the experiences of the county, the economy, as

[38:50] based on the experiences of the county, the economy, as well as the policy decisions

[38:54] the county, the economy, as well as the policy decisions made by this body some of the

[38:55] well as the policy decisions made by this body some of the things that are not on the

[38:56] made by this body some of the things that are not on the slide, certainly making sure

[38:57] things that are not on the slide, certainly making sure that any of your available for

[39:01] slide, certainly making sure that any of your available for the revenue? Our maxed out or

[39:02] that any of your available for the revenue? Our maxed out or that are you’re maximizing that

[39:05] the revenue? Our maxed out or that are you’re maximizing that the revenue evaluating what

[39:07] that are you’re maximizing that the revenue evaluating what the costs recovery costs are.

[39:09] the revenue evaluating what the costs recovery costs are. Is another good bres practice

[39:10] the costs recovery costs are. Is another good bres practice that many municipalities who

[39:12] Is another good bres practice that many municipalities who are considering on the revenue

[39:13] that many municipalities who are considering on the revenue side making some of those

[39:16] are considering on the revenue side making some of those adjustments I’m happy. This is

[39:20] side making some of those adjustments I’m happy. This is I think the they’re in the

[39:20] adjustments I’m happy. This is I think the they’re in the conversation about all flags.

[39:21] I think the they’re in the conversation about all flags. Some of the list we have in the

[39:24] conversation about all flags. Some of the list we have in the model already.

[39:24] Some of the list we have in the model already. >> Incorporated in the list of

[39:27] model already. >> Incorporated in the list of capital projects from your most

[39:30] >> Incorporated in the list of capital projects from your most recent time targets for action.

[39:31] capital projects from your most recent time targets for action. But also some of the projects

[39:33] recent time targets for action. But also some of the projects that folks have highlighted

[39:35] But also some of the projects that folks have highlighted no knowns around. If there was

[39:37] that folks have highlighted no knowns around. If there was needs for additional disaster

[39:38] no knowns around. If there was needs for additional disaster funding. If you change your

[39:40] needs for additional disaster funding. If you change your fund balance reserve level,

[39:42] funding. If you change your fund balance reserve level, that’s assumed in the model,

[39:45] fund balance reserve level, that’s assumed in the model, there’s a lot if you change

[39:46] that’s assumed in the model, there’s a lot if you change staffing numbers, those

[39:47] there’s a lot if you change staffing numbers, those capabilities are already built

[39:49] staffing numbers, those capabilities are already built into the model. So they all you

[39:50] capabilities are already built into the model. So they all you do is turn the switch on to see

[39:51] into the model. So they all you do is turn the switch on to see the fiscal impact of those

[39:54] do is turn the switch on to see the fiscal impact of those items of time. So ensuring

[39:57] the fiscal impact of those items of time. So ensuring alignment with near-term

[39:58] items of time. So ensuring alignment with near-term finances, mother recommendation

[39:59] alignment with near-term finances, mother recommendation that we have, as you all are

[40:02] finances, mother recommendation that we have, as you all are continuing to evaluate what

[40:03] that we have, as you all are continuing to evaluate what your needs are and how you want

[40:05] continuing to evaluate what your needs are and how you want to leverage available funds.

[40:07] your needs are and how you want to leverage available funds. Fear. Very important

[40:08] to leverage available funds. Fear. Very important priorities. So happy to answer

[40:10] Fear. Very important priorities. So happy to answer any more questions. You have.

[40:12] priorities. So happy to answer any more questions. You have. I can also share do little

[40:12] any more questions. You have. I can also share do little preview of the model. He would

[40:14] I can also share do little preview of the model. He would like to see it. We have

[40:14] preview of the model. He would like to see it. We have available to show you all as

[40:19] like to see it. We have available to show you all as well. Commissioner Kerik.

[40:20] available to show you all as well. Commissioner Kerik. >> The only question I have

[40:22] well. Commissioner Kerik. >> The only question I have for you is this man. This is

[40:27] >> The only question I have for you is this man. This is based on. Being able to

[40:28] for you is this man. This is based on. Being able to assessed property taxes on all

[40:31] based on. Being able to assessed property taxes on all the residents of Citrus County.

[40:34] assessed property taxes on all the residents of Citrus County. Correct? Yes, ma’am. Did you

[40:35] the residents of Citrus County. Correct? Yes, ma’am. Did you take into consideration with

[40:37] Correct? Yes, ma’am. Did you take into consideration with the Legislature up in

[40:39] take into consideration with the Legislature up in Tallahassee is discussing about

[40:42] the Legislature up in Tallahassee is discussing about $500,000 Homestead Week engine

[40:46] Tallahassee is discussing about $500,000 Homestead Week engine for every property.

[40:47] $500,000 Homestead Week engine for every property. >> We get so the model includes

[40:49] for every property. >> We get so the model includes a scenario where we effectively

[40:52] >> We get so the model includes a scenario where we effectively at apply that assumption and it

[40:55] a scenario where we effectively at apply that assumption and it is detrimental. It would be

[40:55] at apply that assumption and it is detrimental. It would be detrimental to the county would

[40:56] is detrimental. It would be detrimental to the county would be detrimental to local

[40:56] detrimental to the county would be detrimental to local governments across the state.

[41:01] be detrimental to local governments across the state. But yes, we have incorporated

[41:02] governments across the state. But yes, we have incorporated that in the model so that you

[41:03] But yes, we have incorporated that in the model so that you can see the fiscal impact of

[41:05] that in the model so that you can see the fiscal impact of that that policy choice.

[41:08] can see the fiscal impact of that that policy choice. Thank you. Yes, ma’am.

[41:11] that that policy choice. Thank you. Yes, ma’am. >> I would like to see an

[41:12] Thank you. Yes, ma’am. >> I would like to see an example of cheer them on.

[41:16] >> I would like to see an example of cheer them on. Sure.

[41:39] example of cheer them on. Sure. >> Well, no, but I feel it up.

[41:39] Sure. >> Well, no, but I feel it up. Is there any other questions

[41:41] >> Well, no, but I feel it up. Is there any other questions while we get the model? Place?

[41:44] Is there any other questions while we get the model? Place? Your Davis?

[41:46] while we get the model? Place? Your Davis? >> When we had our discussion

[41:50] Your Davis? >> When we had our discussion prior on Zoom, I had brought up

[41:51] >> When we had our discussion prior on Zoom, I had brought up the Citrus Hope Project, the

[41:55] prior on Zoom, I had brought up the Citrus Hope Project, the homeless shelter and you said

[41:56] the Citrus Hope Project, the homeless shelter and you said that you have run numbers

[41:58] homeless shelter and you said that you have run numbers before for other clients and so

[41:58] that you have run numbers before for other clients and so forth or could run those

[42:02] before for other clients and so forth or could run those numbers for us. The I am struck

[42:04] forth or could run those numbers for us. The I am struck by the fact that it is roughly

[42:07] numbers for us. The I am struck by the fact that it is roughly $75 a day to keep. And we have

[42:10] by the fact that it is roughly $75 a day to keep. And we have a basically a mandate from the

[42:12] $75 a day to keep. And we have a basically a mandate from the state to arrest homeless

[42:14] a basically a mandate from the state to arrest homeless people. Our own contract

[42:15] state to arrest homeless people. Our own contract monitor says that people are

[42:16] people. Our own contract monitor says that people are serving life sentences 3 months

[42:19] monitor says that people are serving life sentences 3 months at a time they cycle in this

[42:20] serving life sentences 3 months at a time they cycle in this cycle out the cycle in this

[42:23] at a time they cycle in this cycle out the cycle in this cycle out. And $75 a day.

[42:24] cycle out the cycle in this cycle out. And $75 a day. All of the whole properties are

[42:27] cycle out. And $75 a day. All of the whole properties are $25 a day to just under $30

[42:30] All of the whole properties are $25 a day to just under $30 a day per person. So of course,

[42:32] $25 a day to just under $30 a day per person. So of course, we have to approximate how many

[42:34] a day per person. So of course, we have to approximate how many are in jail because they’re

[42:36] we have to approximate how many are in jail because they’re homeless. But here’s that.

[42:40] are in jail because they’re homeless. But here’s that. The killer number that are much

[42:42] homeless. But here’s that. The killer number that are much beloved and respected recently.

[42:43] The killer number that are much beloved and respected recently. Retired Florida health director

[42:46] beloved and respected recently. Retired Florida health director locally Tito. Rubio said that.

[42:50] Retired Florida health director locally Tito. Rubio said that. We have a line item on our

[42:53] locally Tito. Rubio said that. We have a line item on our budget where we have to

[42:54] We have a line item on our budget where we have to reimburse Medicaid for indigent

[42:57] budget where we have to reimburse Medicaid for indigent care and it was 1.8 million

[43:00] reimburse Medicaid for indigent care and it was 1.8 million dollars this year. That’s a

[43:03] care and it was 1.8 million dollars this year. That’s a pretty huge number.

[43:04] dollars this year. That’s a pretty huge number. So at Tampa hope, for example,

[43:09] pretty huge number. So at Tampa hope, for example, they have a Tampa general box

[43:10] So at Tampa hope, for example, they have a Tampa general box where the people go into the

[43:12] they have a Tampa general box where the people go into the box and then they do telehealth

[43:14] where the people go into the box and then they do telehealth and so all of that health care

[43:15] box and then they do telehealth and so all of that health care is taken care of that these

[43:17] and so all of that health care is taken care of that these homeless shelters, which keeps

[43:19] is taken care of that these homeless shelters, which keeps homeless folks out of the ares

[43:22] homeless shelters, which keeps homeless folks out of the ares and out of our taxpayer

[43:24] homeless folks out of the ares and out of our taxpayer pocketbook. So I would be super

[43:25] and out of our taxpayer pocketbook. So I would be super interested in what those

[43:26] pocketbook. So I would be super interested in what those numbers are because ultimately.

[43:29] interested in what those numbers are because ultimately. I believe if the numbers pan

[43:32] numbers are because ultimately. I believe if the numbers pan out the way, I think they will,

[43:33] I believe if the numbers pan out the way, I think they will, that we would end up saving

[43:37] out the way, I think they will, that we would end up saving taxpayer dollars by giving them

[43:37] that we would end up saving taxpayer dollars by giving them some state but not the full

[43:39] taxpayer dollars by giving them some state but not the full savings. But it’s a half the

[43:40] some state but not the full savings. But it’s a half the savings and then half of it

[43:44] savings. But it’s a half the savings and then half of it goes back to the taxpayers.

[43:46] savings and then half of it goes back to the taxpayers. So I’d be really interested in

[43:47] goes back to the taxpayers. So I’d be really interested in those numbers chair. And so

[43:47] So I’d be really interested in those numbers chair. And so the we’re actually sitting down

[43:49] those numbers chair. And so the we’re actually sitting down with again.

[43:50] the we’re actually sitting down with again. >> The county staff that we’ve

[43:51] with again. >> The county staff that we’ve been work with have been

[43:54] >> The county staff that we’ve been work with have been fantastic and

[43:55] been work with have been fantastic and >> the?

[43:55] fantastic and >> the? >> I think the ability for the

[43:57] >> the? >> I think the ability for the model to incorporate those

[43:58] >> I think the ability for the model to incorporate those assumptions, the numbers that

[43:58] model to incorporate those assumptions, the numbers that you’re talking about, what the

[44:01] assumptions, the numbers that you’re talking about, what the current costs are with the

[44:02] you’re talking about, what the current costs are with the projected savings are and what

[44:04] current costs are with the projected savings are and what the ongoing operating costs are

[44:06] projected savings are and what the ongoing operating costs are very easy to be incorporated

[44:07] the ongoing operating costs are very easy to be incorporated into the model so that you can

[44:08] very easy to be incorporated into the model so that you can see that full fiscal impact

[44:10] into the model so that you can see that full fiscal impact over time and sort of be able

[44:12] see that full fiscal impact over time and sort of be able to navigate what the upfront

[44:15] over time and sort of be able to navigate what the upfront costs are. Any, but also what

[44:16] to navigate what the upfront costs are. Any, but also what the savings are over time.

[44:18] costs are. Any, but also what the savings are over time. So with with the assumptions

[44:19] the savings are over time. So with with the assumptions that certainly something that

[44:20] So with with the assumptions that certainly something that can be incorporated with that

[44:22] that certainly something that can be incorporated with that and I can certainly work on the

[44:22] can be incorporated with that and I can certainly work on the other municipalities that have

[44:25] and I can certainly work on the other municipalities that have hope shelters to find out what

[44:26] other municipalities that have hope shelters to find out what they’ve.

[44:27] hope shelters to find out what they’ve. >> What’s the savings they have

[44:28] they’ve. >> What’s the savings they have realized, fair tax payers.

[44:32] >> What’s the savings they have realized, fair tax payers. I know the mayor of Tampa

[44:33] realized, fair tax payers. I know the mayor of Tampa promised a million dollars the

[44:35] I know the mayor of Tampa promised a million dollars the first year and 500,000 in each

[44:36] promised a million dollars the first year and 500,000 in each ensuing year and she kept it a

[44:38] first year and 500,000 in each ensuing year and she kept it a million because the savings

[44:40] ensuing year and she kept it a million because the savings were presumably that good in

[44:43] million because the savings were presumably that good in them. The I’m a big data hound.

[44:46] were presumably that good in them. The I’m a big data hound. I always try to. Numbers.

[44:49] them. The I’m a big data hound. I always try to. Numbers. Don’t lie. So we look data.

[44:52] I always try to. Numbers. Don’t lie. So we look data. Yeah, thank you.

[45:07] Don’t lie. So we look data. Yeah, thank you. And also that the model itself

[45:09] Yeah, thank you. And also that the model itself has been shared with the

[45:09] And also that the model itself has been shared with the county. So you will have it.

[45:12] has been shared with the county. So you will have it. It is in your possession.

[45:14] county. So you will have it. It is in your possession. >> And available to see and

[45:15] It is in your possession. >> And available to see and review if we’re still

[45:16] >> And available to see and review if we’re still navigating some that Apple will

[45:18] review if we’re still navigating some that Apple will see difficulties happy to find

[45:19] navigating some that Apple will see difficulties happy to find time to connect with you all

[45:20] see difficulties happy to find time to connect with you all and do another webinar to walk

[45:24] time to connect with you all and do another webinar to walk you through it and to share

[45:24] and do another webinar to walk you through it and to share answer any questions that you

[45:27] you through it and to share answer any questions that you all have.

[45:28] answer any questions that you all have. >> Well, while we’re waiting

[45:34] all have. >> Well, while we’re waiting Mr. Howard, I would be

[45:35] >> Well, while we’re waiting Mr. Howard, I would be interested in it. You know,

[45:36] Mr. Howard, I would be interested in it. You know, you’ve obviously been working

[45:37] interested in it. You know, you’ve obviously been working with this. One of the things

[45:40] you’ve obviously been working with this. One of the things that I felt like.

[45:41] with this. One of the things that I felt like. Was important is as opposed

[45:46] that I felt like. Was important is as opposed to setting. Coming in and half

[45:47] Was important is as opposed to setting. Coming in and half a billion dollars a year and

[45:49] to setting. Coming in and half a billion dollars a year and just doing a one-year budget.

[45:50] a billion dollars a year and just doing a one-year budget. It’s almost like we could

[45:53] just doing a one-year budget. It’s almost like we could forecast out maybe 3 years.

[45:55] It’s almost like we could forecast out maybe 3 years. Not to say it’s not going to

[45:55] forecast out maybe 3 years. Not to say it’s not going to have some movement in it, but

[45:56] Not to say it’s not going to have some movement in it, but you kind of have a benchmark of

[45:58] have some movement in it, but you kind of have a benchmark of where you’re going

[46:01] you kind of have a benchmark of where you’re going year-over-year. But I given

[46:02] where you’re going year-over-year. But I given the information that they have

[46:03] year-over-year. But I given the information that they have provided and taking into

[46:07] the information that they have provided and taking into account.

[46:09] provided and taking into account. Metro forecasts, teens,

[46:13] account. Metro forecasts, teens, predictions. What? What is how

[46:16] Metro forecasts, teens, predictions. What? What is how do you summarize this and as

[46:18] predictions. What? What is how do you summarize this and as our CEO of our county and where

[46:19] do you summarize this and as our CEO of our county and where we going. Yeah, I think, you

[46:20] our CEO of our county and where we going. Yeah, I think, you know, you know, we say hope is

[46:23] we going. Yeah, I think, you know, you know, we say hope is not a plan and what’s so great

[46:24] know, you know, we say hope is not a plan and what’s so great about that hold early behalf.

[46:25] not a plan and what’s so great about that hold early behalf. We’ve had lots of discussions

[46:27] about that hold early behalf. We’ve had lots of discussions with a tool that you can leave

[46:27] We’ve had lots of discussions with a tool that you can leave behind.

[46:28] with a tool that you can leave behind. >> Will allow U.S. White

[46:29] behind. >> Will allow U.S. White Commissioner Burke could

[46:30] >> Will allow U.S. White Commissioner Burke could mention, you know, some of the

[46:31] Commissioner Burke could mention, you know, some of the legislation. Whenever that

[46:31] mention, you know, some of the legislation. Whenever that happens, we can look at that

[46:34] legislation. Whenever that happens, we can look at that and make those assumptions and

[46:35] happens, we can look at that and make those assumptions and be more forward thinking as

[46:37] and make those assumptions and be more forward thinking as we’re looking to the future

[46:39] be more forward thinking as we’re looking to the future and, you know, some point if

[46:40] we’re looking to the future and, you know, some point if these predictions they made

[46:43] and, you know, some point if these predictions they made and there are some shuns, they

[46:43] these predictions they made and there are some shuns, they may become may not, but we can

[46:47] and there are some shuns, they may become may not, but we can properly plan. But the more

[46:47] may become may not, but we can properly plan. But the more proactive some excited about

[46:49] properly plan. But the more proactive some excited about that. I’ve been involved with

[46:51] proactive some excited about that. I’ve been involved with biennial budget, things like

[46:53] that. I’ve been involved with biennial budget, things like that. Many governments have

[46:53] biennial budget, things like that. Many governments have tried that have been

[46:55] that. Many governments have tried that have been successful. Some Abbott, we’ve

[46:56] tried that have been successful. Some Abbott, we’ve had lots of discussions under

[46:57] successful. Some Abbott, we’ve had lots of discussions under interest and that whole Tammy,

[46:59] had lots of discussions under interest and that whole Tammy, this as well. That there’s a

[47:01] interest and that whole Tammy, this as well. That there’s a variety of the program based

[47:02] this as well. That there’s a variety of the program based budgeting. I actually like

[47:03] variety of the program based budgeting. I actually like program based. But one of the

[47:04] budgeting. I actually like program based. But one of the program cost be

[47:04] program based. But one of the program cost be performance-based budget.

[47:06] program cost be performance-based budget. Those are all kind of models.

[47:08] performance-based budget. Those are all kind of models. I would like to look at going

[47:09] Those are all kind of models. I would like to look at going forward. But this does give us

[47:11] I would like to look at going forward. But this does give us a better opportunity for think

[47:12] forward. But this does give us a better opportunity for think so. At some point, if we want

[47:13] a better opportunity for think so. At some point, if we want to look at whatever the project

[47:17] so. At some point, if we want to look at whatever the project is, an animal shelter, our

[47:18] to look at whatever the project is, an animal shelter, our other things, the sports call

[47:18] is, an animal shelter, our other things, the sports call these different things that we

[47:19] other things, the sports call these different things that we look at up here that I called

[47:20] these different things that we look at up here that I called the F bombs. We actually have

[47:22] look at up here that I called the F bombs. We actually have an opportunity now with those

[47:24] the F bombs. We actually have an opportunity now with those kind of data sets to have a

[47:25] an opportunity now with those kind of data sets to have a look at this model that we

[47:26] kind of data sets to have a look at this model that we haven’t forecast more properly.

[47:29] look at this model that we haven’t forecast more properly. Just going to help us to better

[47:31] haven’t forecast more properly. Just going to help us to better communicate as we’re going

[47:32] Just going to help us to better communicate as we’re going through a budgeting a mission

[47:33] communicate as we’re going through a budgeting a mission that that’s a different way of

[47:36] through a budgeting a mission that that’s a different way of doing business. We start to

[47:36] that that’s a different way of doing business. We start to a multi-year budgets, but it’s

[47:39] doing business. We start to a multi-year budgets, but it’s a good way to go as you

[47:39] a multi-year budgets, but it’s a good way to go as you properly plan. There’s a lot of

[47:42] a good way to go as you properly plan. There’s a lot of things are going to happen

[47:43] properly plan. There’s a lot of things are going to happen we’re beginning to face in the

[47:44] things are going to happen we’re beginning to face in the next couple years. We can’t

[47:45] we’re beginning to face in the next couple years. We can’t predict that. We don’t have a

[47:48] next couple years. We can’t predict that. We don’t have a the crystal ball. Look at.

[47:49] predict that. We don’t have a the crystal ball. Look at. But with all this opportunity

[47:50] the crystal ball. Look at. But with all this opportunity with the Metro forecast model

[47:52] But with all this opportunity with the Metro forecast model with this tool, we’re getting

[47:54] with the Metro forecast model with this tool, we’re getting to get a lot of tools that

[47:54] with this tool, we’re getting to get a lot of tools that we’re able actually proactively

[47:55] to get a lot of tools that we’re able actually proactively plan for this for this county

[47:57] we’re able actually proactively plan for this for this county going forward, which is going

[48:01] plan for this for this county going forward, which is going to put a son much better

[48:02] going forward, which is going to put a son much better positioning for the future.

[48:03] to put a son much better positioning for the future. So some excited about that

[48:04] positioning for the future. So some excited about that excited about the tool that

[48:06] So some excited about that excited about the tool that they’re leaving behind. We’re

[48:06] excited about the tool that they’re leaving behind. We’re going to continue to burn up

[48:08] they’re leaving behind. We’re going to continue to burn up their telephones, free of

[48:10] going to continue to burn up their telephones, free of charge. I’m told me into this

[48:10] their telephones, free of charge. I’m told me into this and to continue to do that.

[48:13] charge. I’m told me into this and to continue to do that. But this is exciting

[48:14] and to continue to do that. But this is exciting opportunities. A great tool to

[48:17] But this is exciting opportunities. A great tool to have in our tool box.

[48:20] opportunities. A great tool to have in our tool box. >> Poor ficken to the budget

[48:21] have in our tool box. >> Poor ficken to the budget you’re getting ready to set our

[48:25] >> Poor ficken to the budget you’re getting ready to set our new upcoming budget. So

[48:30] you’re getting ready to set our new upcoming budget. So >> policies, do you think that

[48:31] new upcoming budget. So >> policies, do you think that we should start to implement

[48:33] >> policies, do you think that we should start to implement going into this new budget and

[48:35] we should start to implement going into this new budget and what are some of your

[48:38] going into this new budget and what are some of your suggestions to

[48:40] what are some of your suggestions to kind of preset what may or may

[48:43] suggestions to kind of preset what may or may not come out of

[48:43] kind of preset what may or may not come out of the legislature?

[48:44] not come out of the legislature? >> Well, I think you get a it’s

[48:46] the legislature? >> Well, I think you get a it’s it’s it’s something I’ve looked

[48:46] >> Well, I think you get a it’s it’s it’s something I’ve looked at this in this. There’s a lot

[48:48] it’s it’s something I’ve looked at this in this. There’s a lot of things. Keep me up at night

[48:49] at this in this. There’s a lot of things. Keep me up at night and the corrections is one of

[48:51] of things. Keep me up at night and the corrections is one of those. Obviously at the fund

[48:55] and the corrections is one of those. Obviously at the fund that sheriffs, all these

[48:56] those. Obviously at the fund that sheriffs, all these things, you have to be funded

[48:56] that sheriffs, all these things, you have to be funded with local taxes and things

[48:57] things, you have to be funded with local taxes and things like that. This could be a

[49:00] with local taxes and things like that. This could be a different medium business

[49:01] like that. This could be a different medium business ultimately when everybody looks

[49:02] different medium business ultimately when everybody looks at that with his conversations,

[49:04] ultimately when everybody looks at that with his conversations, go, we’re still trying now to

[49:05] at that with his conversations, go, we’re still trying now to behind the scenes balance right

[49:07] go, we’re still trying now to behind the scenes balance right now, working with staff knows

[49:08] behind the scenes balance right now, working with staff knows where we’re looking at this

[49:09] now, working with staff knows where we’re looking at this 5 million dollars additional

[49:10] where we’re looking at this 5 million dollars additional for road resurfacing. Just

[49:13] 5 million dollars additional for road resurfacing. Just general fund money. I think

[49:14] for road resurfacing. Just general fund money. I think going forward what I call that

[49:15] general fund money. I think going forward what I call that the true up 20 is what really

[49:18] going forward what I call that the true up 20 is what really caused a colleague

[49:18] the true up 20 is what really caused a colleague Carryforward. I probably get a

[49:20] caused a colleague Carryforward. I probably get a look at that a little bit

[49:22] Carryforward. I probably get a look at that a little bit closer and see. How’s that

[49:22] look at that a little bit closer and see. How’s that going? I would like to have a

[49:23] closer and see. How’s that going? I would like to have a little bit more reserved.

[49:24] going? I would like to have a little bit more reserved. That’s kind of the stabbing.

[49:27] little bit more reserved. That’s kind of the stabbing. I’ll tell you the served in.

[49:30] That’s kind of the stabbing. I’ll tell you the served in. You look at my resignation

[49:32] I’ll tell you the served in. You look at my resignation letter I gave in I was very

[49:33] You look at my resignation letter I gave in I was very proud of 2 with 38%. reserves

[49:36] letter I gave in I was very proud of 2 with 38%. reserves are which is a lot of cash for

[49:37] proud of 2 with 38%. reserves are which is a lot of cash for it. But you got to balance that

[49:40] are which is a lot of cash for it. But you got to balance that out. You don’t have too much.

[49:40] it. But you got to balance that out. You don’t have too much. They’re either. That’s not good

[49:43] out. You don’t have too much. They’re either. That’s not good either. But but I think you get

[49:44] They’re either. That’s not good either. But but I think you get a look at that a little bit out

[49:44] either. But but I think you get a look at that a little bit out of little more health, your

[49:46] a look at that a little bit out of little more health, your fund balance. That’s me

[49:48] of little more health, your fund balance. That’s me personally. And also be

[49:49] fund balance. That’s me personally. And also be cautious going forward. We’re

[49:51] personally. And also be cautious going forward. We’re looking at this but be very

[49:53] cautious going forward. We’re looking at this but be very close to these assumptions and

[49:55] looking at this but be very close to these assumptions and hopefully they’re not accurate.

[49:55] close to these assumptions and hopefully they’re not accurate. This would be, you know, over

[49:57] hopefully they’re not accurate. This would be, you know, over the accurate. But you got to be

[49:58] This would be, you know, over the accurate. But you got to be proactively plan. Somebody be

[50:00] the accurate. But you got to be proactively plan. Somebody be setting up here in this seat.

[50:03] proactively plan. Somebody be setting up here in this seat. Most likely it may not some

[50:05] setting up here in this seat. Most likely it may not some abs, but we want to put this in

[50:07] Most likely it may not some abs, but we want to put this in a better position in 2029,

[50:09] abs, but we want to put this in a better position in 2029, 2030, and be preparing for

[50:09] a better position in 2029, 2030, and be preparing for that. I’d love to continue to

[50:13] 2030, and be preparing for that. I’d love to continue to put more in these reserves

[50:14] that. I’d love to continue to put more in these reserves potentially. Also look at this

[50:16] put more in these reserves potentially. Also look at this truck. He may be a little bit

[50:17] potentially. Also look at this truck. He may be a little bit differently, but I don’t I

[50:17] truck. He may be a little bit differently, but I don’t I don’t have what these policies

[50:19] differently, but I don’t I don’t have what these policies will look at right now. I’m

[50:21] don’t have what these policies will look at right now. I’m still trying to work right now

[50:23] will look at right now. I’m still trying to work right now to get us to balancing and be

[50:24] still trying to work right now to get us to balancing and be able to work with the reserve.

[50:25] to get us to balancing and be able to work with the reserve. And we’re getting very close, I

[50:26] able to work with the reserve. And we’re getting very close, I think, to be able to come back

[50:27] And we’re getting very close, I think, to be able to come back to the board with, I think some

[50:30] think, to be able to come back to the board with, I think some positive news on that. But it

[50:31] to the board with, I think some positive news on that. But it is cut me coming near about

[50:34] positive news on that. But it is cut me coming near about 30 some months into this.

[50:35] is cut me coming near about 30 some months into this. I’m always here a couple words

[50:39] 30 some months into this. I’m always here a couple words here. Duke money and then I was

[50:39] I’m always here a couple words here. Duke money and then I was here like this truth, you know,

[50:40] here. Duke money and then I was here like this truth, you know, the true of money. So those are

[50:41] here like this truth, you know, the true of money. So those are things that were we’re

[50:41] the true of money. So those are things that were we’re dependent on doing different

[50:43] things that were we’re dependent on doing different things with so it’s got to be

[50:45] dependent on doing different things with so it’s got to be careful, cautious and make sure

[50:46] things with so it’s got to be careful, cautious and make sure those are, you know, one time

[50:50] careful, cautious and make sure those are, you know, one time expenses, not reoccurring

[50:52] those are, you know, one time expenses, not reoccurring expenses. I know Commissioner

[50:53] expenses, not reoccurring expenses. I know Commissioner Card talks a lot about that and

[50:55] expenses. I know Commissioner Card talks a lot about that and I agree 100% of them, you know,

[50:56] Card talks a lot about that and I agree 100% of them, you know, the budgeting want to make sure

[50:56] I agree 100% of them, you know, the budgeting want to make sure we’re doing that as well that

[50:58] the budgeting want to make sure we’re doing that as well that we’re not. We’re putting those

[51:00] we’re doing that as well that we’re not. We’re putting those separately. So this but just

[51:01] we’re not. We’re putting those separately. So this but just don’t continue to grow at those

[51:02] separately. So this but just don’t continue to grow at those levels that are kind of

[51:03] don’t continue to grow at those levels that are kind of starting a bigger budget.

[51:04] levels that are kind of starting a bigger budget. We want to keep those

[51:06] starting a bigger budget. We want to keep those separated. So they are one-time

[51:08] We want to keep those separated. So they are one-time expenditures. So what a

[51:10] separated. So they are one-time expenditures. So what a compounding these budgets going

[51:11] expenditures. So what a compounding these budgets going forward. There’s a variety

[51:11] compounding these budgets going forward. There’s a variety things. I love to have more

[51:13] forward. There’s a variety things. I love to have more discussions with. You may be

[51:14] things. I love to have more discussions with. You may be in, you know, going into

[51:15] discussions with. You may be in, you know, going into January, our strategic plan

[51:16] in, you know, going into January, our strategic plan retreat the Sea, which model we

[51:19] January, our strategic plan retreat the Sea, which model we work at. And then I’d love to

[51:19] retreat the Sea, which model we work at. And then I’d love to have them continue with this a

[51:22] work at. And then I’d love to have them continue with this a little bit further along with

[51:24] have them continue with this a little bit further along with some of these other budgeting

[51:25] little bit further along with some of these other budgeting techniques actually work across

[51:25] some of these other budgeting techniques actually work across the country, which ones are

[51:27] techniques actually work across the country, which ones are working, which ones are not.

[51:29] the country, which ones are working, which ones are not. I’ve done a variety of mud and

[51:29] working, which ones are not. I’ve done a variety of mud and everything from 0 base

[51:31] I’ve done a variety of mud and everything from 0 base budgeting, which quite honestly

[51:33] everything from 0 base budgeting, which quite honestly you never started 0 yet.

[51:34] budgeting, which quite honestly you never started 0 yet. As a county of expenses

[51:36] you never started 0 yet. As a county of expenses expenses, we can’t get rid of

[51:37] As a county of expenses expenses, we can’t get rid of but program based budgeting,

[51:39] expenses, we can’t get rid of but program based budgeting, performance-based budgeting,

[51:41] but program based budgeting, performance-based budgeting, not what the outputs work, but

[51:42] performance-based budgeting, not what the outputs work, but what was the outcome as well as

[51:44] not what the outputs work, but what was the outcome as well as the investment was returned,

[51:45] what was the outcome as well as the investment was returned, investment for the dollars that

[51:47] the investment was returned, investment for the dollars that you spent so those are all

[51:48] investment for the dollars that you spent so those are all conversations are going to have

[51:49] you spent so those are all conversations are going to have a probably gonna have a lot

[51:49] conversations are going to have a probably gonna have a lot sooner based on what comes out

[51:53] a probably gonna have a lot sooner based on what comes out of Tallahassee. Soon.

[51:55] sooner based on what comes out of Tallahassee. Soon. I went around the circle with

[51:57] of Tallahassee. Soon. I went around the circle with him. Thanks a little too.

[52:01] I went around the circle with him. Thanks a little too. 2 too soon to make policy

[52:01] him. Thanks a little too. 2 too soon to make policy decisions. This point just

[52:02] 2 too soon to make policy decisions. This point just coming out of this with this

[52:03] decisions. This point just coming out of this with this data. Plus, trying to get your

[52:05] coming out of this with this data. Plus, trying to get your input today. Welcome to

[52:06] data. Plus, trying to get your input today. Welcome to terminal. We bring forward.

[52:07] input today. Welcome to terminal. We bring forward. We can work close with our

[52:10] terminal. We bring forward. We can work close with our consultants staff too. See what

[52:10] We can work close with our consultants staff too. See what are some some things that we

[52:12] consultants staff too. See what are some some things that we could actually come forward.

[52:14] are some some things that we could actually come forward. Some policy improvements that

[52:15] could actually come forward. Some policy improvements that would be Moammar forward

[52:16] Some policy improvements that would be Moammar forward thinking to continue to take us

[52:18] would be Moammar forward thinking to continue to take us into this new modeling that we

[52:21] thinking to continue to take us into this new modeling that we have for the future.

[52:23] into this new modeling that we have for the future. >> I guess my biggest concern

[52:27] have for the future. >> I guess my biggest concern is the citizens.

[52:27] >> I guess my biggest concern is the citizens. >> Have spoken very loud, very

[52:31] is the citizens. >> Have spoken very loud, very clearly that road resurfacing

[52:33] >> Have spoken very loud, very clearly that road resurfacing is at the top of their

[52:35] clearly that road resurfacing is at the top of their priorities. And we’re

[52:37] is at the top of their priorities. And we’re struggling to come up with the

[52:38] priorities. And we’re struggling to come up with the additional funds to kind of

[52:40] struggling to come up with the additional funds to kind of make it whole for the same

[52:40] additional funds to kind of make it whole for the same amount of money that we spent

[52:42] make it whole for the same amount of money that we spent this year to spend next year

[52:47] amount of money that we spent this year to spend next year and if I’m interpreting what

[52:48] this year to spend next year and if I’m interpreting what she’s saying correctly on the

[52:50] and if I’m interpreting what she’s saying correctly on the cash carry forward. That’s kind

[52:50] she’s saying correctly on the cash carry forward. That’s kind of how we’ve been balancing

[52:54] cash carry forward. That’s kind of how we’ve been balancing that out and we’re we’re

[52:54] of how we’ve been balancing that out and we’re we’re cutting into that. We’ve used

[52:58] that out and we’re we’re cutting into that. We’ve used that up and

[52:59] cutting into that. We’ve used that up and I asked what the number was

[53:01] that up and I asked what the number was in new growth. Just dollars for

[53:04] I asked what the number was in new growth. Just dollars for new growth and it was 3.2

[53:06] in new growth. Just dollars for new growth and it was 3.2 million dollars right? So that

[53:09] new growth and it was 3.2 million dollars right? So that took. Half a billion dollar

[53:13] million dollars right? So that took. Half a billion dollar worth of investment. Just to

[53:14] took. Half a billion dollar worth of investment. Just to get 3.2 million dollars in tax

[53:17] worth of investment. Just to get 3.2 million dollars in tax revenue.

[53:19] get 3.2 million dollars in tax revenue. When you think about like how

[53:20] revenue. When you think about like how many houses you have to have

[53:24] When you think about like how many houses you have to have for that versus maybe an

[53:25] many houses you have to have for that versus maybe an industrial park and our

[53:26] for that versus maybe an industrial park and our commercial. And then you think

[53:28] industrial park and our commercial. And then you think of the intrinsic values of what

[53:30] commercial. And then you think of the intrinsic values of what that puts back into your

[53:31] of the intrinsic values of what that puts back into your community for creating higher

[53:35] that puts back into your community for creating higher paying jobs in more wages

[53:37] community for creating higher paying jobs in more wages so for me, I’m looking at it.

[53:37] paying jobs in more wages so for me, I’m looking at it. I really do believe that we

[53:40] so for me, I’m looking at it. I really do believe that we have to really kind of as board

[53:41] I really do believe that we have to really kind of as board policy start to focus on some.

[53:46] have to really kind of as board policy start to focus on some. Revenue diversification from

[53:48] policy start to focus on some. Revenue diversification from now. What are we? What are we

[53:52] Revenue diversification from now. What are we? What are we trying to attract into our

[53:52] now. What are we? What are we trying to attract into our community thinking only about a

[53:53] trying to attract into our community thinking only about a half percent. You’re this

[53:53] community thinking only about a half percent. You’re this industrial center that you’re

[53:56] half percent. You’re this industrial center that you’re challenging. Pardon.

[53:56] industrial center that you’re challenging. Pardon. >> Exemptions and all those

[53:58] challenging. Pardon. >> Exemptions and all those things are very difficult.

[53:59] >> Exemptions and all those things are very difficult. And then you have all these

[54:00] things are very difficult. And then you have all these cars drivers. I went back and

[54:00] And then you have all these cars drivers. I went back and looked over the last decade at

[54:03] cars drivers. I went back and looked over the last decade at one time. You’re only put

[54:04] looked over the last decade at one time. You’re only put 2 million dollars a year for

[54:07] one time. You’re only put 2 million dollars a year for road resurfacing Patel. You’ve

[54:08] 2 million dollars a year for road resurfacing Patel. You’ve got, you know, 2000 miles

[54:09] road resurfacing Patel. You’ve got, you know, 2000 miles through this, a lot of roots

[54:13] got, you know, 2000 miles through this, a lot of roots so we definitely have an issue

[54:14] through this, a lot of roots so we definitely have an issue with all those things. And of

[54:16] so we definitely have an issue with all those things. And of course, you’re competing every

[54:16] with all those things. And of course, you’re competing every year for expenses, utilities

[54:20] course, you’re competing every year for expenses, utilities have doubled costs of health

[54:22] year for expenses, utilities have doubled costs of health care is to all these.

[54:22] have doubled costs of health care is to all these. Everything’s is going up.

[54:23] care is to all these. Everything’s is going up. Property liability insurance,

[54:25] Everything’s is going up. Property liability insurance, all those things. So this very

[54:29] Property liability insurance, all those things. So this very difficult yes, with the issues

[54:29] all those things. So this very difficult yes, with the issues that are facing here, some of

[54:31] difficult yes, with the issues that are facing here, some of the challenges. But with

[54:32] that are facing here, some of the challenges. But with challenges as opportunities.

[54:35] the challenges. But with challenges as opportunities. I think we have to think

[54:37] challenges as opportunities. I think we have to think differently and you have to

[54:37] I think we have to think differently and you have to kind of look at the Mir with

[54:39] differently and you have to kind of look at the Mir with the Staten saying he’s already

[54:41] kind of look at the Mir with the Staten saying he’s already either just look at a jury,

[54:44] the Staten saying he’s already either just look at a jury, do something with it. And

[54:45] either just look at a jury, do something with it. And proactively try to take steps

[54:46] do something with it. And proactively try to take steps to execute the future. And she

[54:48] proactively try to take steps to execute the future. And she was struck. She can go on so

[54:49] to execute the future. And she was struck. She can go on so I think this is all good.

[54:51] was struck. She can go on so I think this is all good. Good conversation at good

[54:53] I think this is all good. Good conversation at good information. Moving forward.

[54:54] Good conversation at good information. Moving forward. But like you said, you have

[54:56] information. Moving forward. But like you said, you have to defer to diversify the

[54:58] But like you said, you have to defer to diversify the economy, which is difficult.

[54:59] to defer to diversify the economy, which is difficult. We just came from a town hall

[55:03] economy, which is difficult. We just came from a town hall meeting and Floral city.

[55:03] We just came from a town hall meeting and Floral city. So you’re balancing that out of

[55:04] meeting and Floral city. So you’re balancing that out of time to talk to people have a

[55:06] So you’re balancing that out of time to talk to people have a little bit of fun with them

[55:08] time to talk to people have a little bit of fun with them and say you like those Texas

[55:10] little bit of fun with them and say you like those Texas Roadhouse and they all say yes

[55:12] and say you like those Texas Roadhouse and they all say yes and a lot of times I asked a

[55:12] Roadhouse and they all say yes and a lot of times I asked a lie-in some of the guys you

[55:14] and a lot of times I asked a lie-in some of the guys you like Hobby Lobby and they say,

[55:15] lie-in some of the guys you like Hobby Lobby and they say, yes, I like that about 5 guys.

[55:18] like Hobby Lobby and they say, yes, I like that about 5 guys. The burger there. Yes. So I say

[55:20] yes, I like that about 5 guys. The burger there. Yes. So I say what we call that we call that

[55:22] The burger there. Yes. So I say what we call that we call that groove. And then I got another

[55:23] what we call that we call that groove. And then I got another e-mail from another citizen us

[55:25] groove. And then I got another e-mail from another citizen us as I’m concerned about my

[55:26] e-mail from another citizen us as I’m concerned about my medical doctor had over 30

[55:28] as I’m concerned about my medical doctor had over 30 years and they’re leaving well,

[55:30] medical doctor had over 30 years and they’re leaving well, how do we, you know, employee

[55:30] years and they’re leaving well, how do we, you know, employee other doctors in this

[55:32] how do we, you know, employee other doctors in this community, things like that.

[55:33] other doctors in this community, things like that. He’s got the quality of life

[55:34] community, things like that. He’s got the quality of life and issues and things like

[55:35] He’s got the quality of life and issues and things like that. And then a seat on the

[55:38] and issues and things like that. And then a seat on the industrial side. You have to

[55:38] that. And then a seat on the industrial side. You have to have competitive advantage to

[55:42] industrial side. You have to have competitive advantage to bring industry to this

[55:43] have competitive advantage to bring industry to this community. So they’re looking

[55:43] bring industry to this community. So they’re looking for a lot of things. So it’s a

[55:46] community. So they’re looking for a lot of things. So it’s a balancing act and this is not

[55:48] for a lot of things. So it’s a balancing act and this is not you need unique to this

[55:49] balancing act and this is not you need unique to this government. They’re facing

[55:50] you need unique to this government. They’re facing these challenges across the

[55:51] government. They’re facing these challenges across the state. I can tell you that my

[55:55] these challenges across the state. I can tell you that my colleagues so and you say, I

[55:55] state. I can tell you that my colleagues so and you say, I think the light at the end of

[55:57] colleagues so and you say, I think the light at the end of tunnel continues to be bright.

[55:57] think the light at the end of tunnel continues to be bright. But we just got to remain

[56:01] tunnel continues to be bright. But we just got to remain focused and diligent and, you

[56:01] But we just got to remain focused and diligent and, you know, take this and use these

[56:04] focused and diligent and, you know, take this and use these tools that have proactively to

[56:04] know, take this and use these tools that have proactively to the community and community

[56:06] tools that have proactively to the community and community communicate that out to the

[56:10] the community and community communicate that out to the public in everything costs

[56:11] communicate that out to the public in everything costs money. I wish it was didn’t

[56:12] public in everything costs money. I wish it was didn’t cost money, which to double.

[56:14] money. I wish it was didn’t cost money, which to double. But based on your analysis

[56:15] cost money, which to double. But based on your analysis here, you continue to see a lot

[56:19] But based on your analysis here, you continue to see a lot of things need to to be taken

[56:19] here, you continue to see a lot of things need to to be taken care of, correct. And things

[56:22] of things need to to be taken care of, correct. And things like that. And that’s only a

[56:22] care of, correct. And things like that. And that’s only a little bit of a bite at Apple

[56:23] like that. And that’s only a little bit of a bite at Apple that we can actually

[56:25] little bit of a bite at Apple that we can actually proactively do so I’m excited

[56:27] that we can actually proactively do so I’m excited about going forward working

[56:29] proactively do so I’m excited about going forward working with this board for policy

[56:30] about going forward working with this board for policy improvements and to continue to

[56:32] with this board for policy improvements and to continue to communicate that with the

[56:33] improvements and to continue to communicate that with the public. Some of the needs that

[56:35] communicate that with the public. Some of the needs that we have. But we’re making

[56:37] public. Some of the needs that we have. But we’re making progress. But there’s going to

[56:37] we have. But we’re making progress. But there’s going to cost. So she thought that it is

[56:38] progress. But there’s going to cost. So she thought that it is a look at our numbers. I think

[56:43] cost. So she thought that it is a look at our numbers. I think 2 years, almost 300% increasing

[56:44] a look at our numbers. I think 2 years, almost 300% increasing to s*** women on a new expenses

[56:45] 2 years, almost 300% increasing to s*** women on a new expenses and things like that. All these

[56:47] to s*** women on a new expenses and things like that. All these things are the team to go

[56:48] and things like that. All these things are the team to go messing anything going down.

[56:51] things are the team to go messing anything going down. I’d also commissioner Kerik.

[56:58] messing anything going down. I’d also commissioner Kerik. Administrator. I have a

[56:59] I’d also commissioner Kerik. Administrator. I have a question.

[56:59] Administrator. I have a question. >> Having been to the meetings

[57:00] question. >> Having been to the meetings last weekend with the

[57:04] >> Having been to the meetings last weekend with the legislators and there they’re

[57:07] last weekend with the legislators and there they’re talking property taxes are

[57:08] legislators and there they’re talking property taxes are going to be going down for all

[57:11] talking property taxes are going to be going down for all the citizens in the state.

[57:13] going to be going down for all the citizens in the state. With that may be going away

[57:15] the citizens in the state. With that may be going away completely. And then coming up

[57:18] With that may be going away completely. And then coming up with a different way to to get

[57:21] completely. And then coming up with a different way to to get money for the counties. Can you

[57:24] with a different way to to get money for the counties. Can you at this point? Come up with.

[57:28] money for the counties. Can you at this point? Come up with. A number. Did we could see

[57:31] at this point? Come up with. A number. Did we could see physically?

[57:33] A number. Did we could see physically? We if they were to take in

[57:34] physically? We if they were to take in everything was everybody was at

[57:38] We if they were to take in everything was everybody was at 500,000 or up with the only

[57:40] everything was everybody was at 500,000 or up with the only property taxpayers. In other

[57:40] 500,000 or up with the only property taxpayers. In other words, that’s the numbers that

[57:41] property taxpayers. In other words, that’s the numbers that were thrown at me at the

[57:44] words, that’s the numbers that were thrown at me at the meetings. I went to. They’re

[57:45] were thrown at me at the meetings. I went to. They’re considering anything. $500,000

[57:47] meetings. I went to. They’re considering anything. $500,000 property value lower. They 0.

[57:51] considering anything. $500,000 property value lower. They 0. That nominates a lot of things

[57:53] property value lower. They 0. That nominates a lot of things in our county. So I’m looking.

[57:58] That nominates a lot of things in our county. So I’m looking. Forward and I’m saying, OK,

[57:59] in our county. So I’m looking. Forward and I’m saying, OK, what is the possibility when

[58:00] Forward and I’m saying, OK, what is the possibility when they pass this next year?

[58:03] what is the possibility when they pass this next year? How much money are we actually

[58:03] they pass this next year? How much money are we actually going to have to work with?

[58:06] How much money are we actually going to have to work with? You know, that’s a forecast and

[58:07] going to have to work with? You know, that’s a forecast and I’d like to see how much will

[58:11] You know, that’s a forecast and I’d like to see how much will we have? I don’t going to take

[58:12] I’d like to see how much will we have? I don’t going to take time to do it. But could you

[58:16] we have? I don’t going to take time to do it. But could you possibly do that? We will do

[58:16] time to do it. But could you possibly do that? We will do our very best, OK? Thank you.

[58:20] possibly do that? We will do our very best, OK? Thank you. >> I think that’s a discussion.

[58:21] our very best, OK? Thank you. >> I think that’s a discussion. I don’t think that I was in

[58:22] >> I think that’s a discussion. I don’t think that I was in Tallahassee couple weeks ago

[58:24] I don’t think that I was in Tallahassee couple weeks ago and I’m not gonna name names,

[58:26] Tallahassee couple weeks ago and I’m not gonna name names, but somebody was in there with

[58:28] and I’m not gonna name names, but somebody was in there with a group of U.S. County managers

[58:28] but somebody was in there with a group of U.S. County managers and they said they’ve never

[58:32] a group of U.S. County managers and they said they’ve never seen a time in Florida has now

[58:33] and they said they’ve never seen a time in Florida has now where we have folks trying to

[58:35] seen a time in Florida has now where we have folks trying to make decisions that have no

[58:37] where we have folks trying to make decisions that have no boots on the ground and local

[58:39] make decisions that have no boots on the ground and local government because what we do

[58:39] boots on the ground and local government because what we do with our corrections, I mean,

[58:43] government because what we do with our corrections, I mean, all those folks, what do we

[58:43] with our corrections, I mean, all those folks, what do we know? Pay sheriff’s office?

[58:44] all those folks, what do we know? Pay sheriff’s office? You know, you said that you

[58:46] know? Pay sheriff’s office? You know, you said that you wouldn’t have any law

[58:47] You know, you said that you wouldn’t have any law enforcement. No public works.

[58:48] wouldn’t have any law enforcement. No public works. All the roads you want to do

[58:49] enforcement. No public works. All the roads you want to do actual we’re balancing know

[58:51] All the roads you want to do actual we’re balancing know that’s general fund money that

[58:52] actual we’re balancing know that’s general fund money that we’re doing road resurfacing

[58:54] that’s general fund money that we’re doing road resurfacing with the news. 5 Million.

[58:54] we’re doing road resurfacing with the news. 5 Million. So it’s all those things.

[58:56] with the news. 5 Million. So it’s all those things. In the end of the day, if that

[58:59] So it’s all those things. In the end of the day, if that people doing this work. So it’s

[59:00] In the end of the day, if that people doing this work. So it’s it’s all got to get done to see

[59:01] people doing this work. So it’s it’s all got to get done to see to make a decision when you

[59:02] it’s all got to get done to see to make a decision when you don’t have any responsibility

[59:04] to make a decision when you don’t have any responsibility or after see what the thing is

[59:06] don’t have any responsibility or after see what the thing is and that that’s that’s not

[59:06] or after see what the thing is and that that’s that’s not good. Some hopeful. I’m hopeful

[59:08] and that that’s that’s not good. Some hopeful. I’m hopeful that the better mines will come

[59:11] good. Some hopeful. I’m hopeful that the better mines will come together in the our friends in

[59:12] that the better mines will come together in the our friends in Tallahassee will rethink some

[59:14] together in the our friends in Tallahassee will rethink some of these these decision points.

[59:15] Tallahassee will rethink some of these these decision points. And then diversify because you

[59:16] of these these decision points. And then diversify because you still got to pay the bills.

[59:18] And then diversify because you still got to pay the bills. We’ve got to pay for all these

[59:21] still got to pay the bills. We’ve got to pay for all these services and the very public.

[59:23] We’ve got to pay for all these services and the very public. And that means one this board

[59:24] services and the very public. And that means one this board to be able to do some things.

[59:26] And that means one this board to be able to do some things. This board’s being handcuffed.

[59:27] to be able to do some things. This board’s being handcuffed. I mean, is taking your take on

[59:29] This board’s being handcuffed. I mean, is taking your take on local control away, which is

[59:30] I mean, is taking your take on local control away, which is bad. This is job stressful

[59:33] local control away, which is bad. This is job stressful enough are ready to to all the

[59:34] bad. This is job stressful enough are ready to to all the stuff that we’re doing now

[59:35] enough are ready to to all the stuff that we’re doing now without somebody you don’t have

[59:39] stuff that we’re doing now without somebody you don’t have any funds to do, do this works?

[59:40] without somebody you don’t have any funds to do, do this works? I don’t. I don’t think it’s

[59:40] any funds to do, do this works? I don’t. I don’t think it’s gonna work out real good as it

[59:42] I don’t. I don’t think it’s gonna work out real good as it could be a good good ending.

[59:44] gonna work out real good as it could be a good good ending. I think with that. So hopefully

[59:47] could be a good good ending. I think with that. So hopefully better folks will think through

[59:47] I think with that. So hopefully better folks will think through that a little bit and words

[59:50] better folks will think through that a little bit and words that come from. And if you look

[59:51] that a little bit and words that come from. And if you look at that, you look at that that

[59:54] that come from. And if you look at that, you look at that that we’re not based totally on

[59:55] at that, you look at that that we’re not based totally on property taxes. What you’re

[59:56] we’re not based totally on property taxes. What you’re looking at that the general

[59:57] property taxes. What you’re looking at that the general fund money. I came forward with

[59:58] looking at that the general fund money. I came forward with his buddy dollars in new

[1:00:01] fund money. I came forward with his buddy dollars in new revenues. But her expenses over

[1:00:02] his buddy dollars in new revenues. But her expenses over 13 Million. Meantime, having to

[1:00:04] revenues. But her expenses over 13 Million. Meantime, having to balance all that out and you

[1:00:05] 13 Million. Meantime, having to balance all that out and you have 30,000 more population

[1:00:08] balance all that out and you have 30,000 more population than you had many years ago.

[1:00:10] have 30,000 more population than you had many years ago. You have less employees today

[1:00:12] than you had many years ago. You have less employees today and you had back in. 0, 708.

[1:00:13] You have less employees today and you had back in. 0, 708. So in fact, you’re actually

[1:00:16] and you had back in. 0, 708. So in fact, you’re actually doing this with less. But, you

[1:00:17] So in fact, you’re actually doing this with less. But, you know, the services are going

[1:00:17] doing this with less. But, you know, the services are going continue to go up. The demands

[1:00:19] know, the services are going continue to go up. The demands are going to go up. All those

[1:00:21] continue to go up. The demands are going to go up. All those things and when you say and

[1:00:24] are going to go up. All those things and when you say and moved to Florida, keep Florida

[1:00:24] things and when you say and moved to Florida, keep Florida free. Well, it’s not free for

[1:00:26] moved to Florida, keep Florida free. Well, it’s not free for any this local service,

[1:00:27] free. Well, it’s not free for any this local service, something our good friends I

[1:00:29] any this local service, something our good friends I think is walking the judges.

[1:00:30] something our good friends I think is walking the judges. All these things they have to

[1:00:31] think is walking the judges. All these things they have to do the courtrooms. All the

[1:00:33] All these things they have to do the courtrooms. All the expenses are the board has to

[1:00:35] do the courtrooms. All the expenses are the board has to do. It’s all F bombs. It’s

[1:00:36] expenses are the board has to do. It’s all F bombs. It’s expensive to do all this work.

[1:00:39] do. It’s all F bombs. It’s expensive to do all this work. Some hopeful that bill they’ll

[1:00:41] expensive to do all this work. Some hopeful that bill they’ll consider our thoughts into

[1:00:43] Some hopeful that bill they’ll consider our thoughts into this. We have real meaningful

[1:00:44] consider our thoughts into this. We have real meaningful dialogue and we don’t do what a

[1:00:46] this. We have real meaningful dialogue and we don’t do what a lot of governments have done

[1:00:47] dialogue and we don’t do what a lot of governments have done and other places around the

[1:00:50] lot of governments have done and other places around the country says attack shift and

[1:00:51] and other places around the country says attack shift and that’s something that I hope

[1:00:54] country says attack shift and that’s something that I hope doesn’t happen. So.

[1:00:56] that’s something that I hope doesn’t happen. So. >> I think they’ve figured out

[1:01:00] doesn’t happen. So. >> I think they’ve figured out putting I public hearing to

[1:01:00] >> I think they’ve figured out putting I public hearing to my colleague, I was in the

[1:01:01] putting I public hearing to my colleague, I was in the other room. So I’ll share shout

[1:01:03] my colleague, I was in the other room. So I’ll share shout out yet.

[1:01:03] other room. So I’ll share shout out yet. >> Is there a way to share this

[1:01:06] out yet. >> Is there a way to share this screen?

[1:01:10] >> Is there a way to share this screen? Okay. It started there. Thank

[1:01:12] screen? Okay. It started there. Thank you. Okay. I so if you can

[1:01:12] Okay. It started there. Thank you. Okay. I so if you can scroll down a little bit.

[1:01:15] you. Okay. I so if you can scroll down a little bit. This is the baseline tab and

[1:01:16] scroll down a little bit. This is the baseline tab and you’ll see it’s organized by

[1:01:17] This is the baseline tab and you’ll see it’s organized by various categories showing your

[1:01:19] you’ll see it’s organized by various categories showing your total revenues a pause their I

[1:01:23] various categories showing your total revenues a pause their I o U C your total revenues and

[1:01:23] total revenues a pause their I o U C your total revenues and then your revenues. Plus that

[1:01:25] o U C your total revenues and then your revenues. Plus that carryforward coming into

[1:01:26] then your revenues. Plus that carryforward coming into account. I feel scroll down a

[1:01:29] carryforward coming into account. I feel scroll down a little bit.

[1:01:30] account. I feel scroll down a little bit. We can see that. You know, yet

[1:01:31] little bit. We can see that. You know, yet if you can zoom in, I’ll please

[1:01:37] We can see that. You know, yet if you can zoom in, I’ll please as well. Maybe one more.

[1:01:39] if you can zoom in, I’ll please as well. Maybe one more. So scrolling down. You’ll see

[1:01:42] as well. Maybe one more. So scrolling down. You’ll see the various different elected

[1:01:43] So scrolling down. You’ll see the various different elected offices. If you can continue

[1:01:46] the various different elected offices. If you can continue scrolling. We’ll get to the

[1:01:48] offices. If you can continue scrolling. We’ll get to the bottom of the county’s personal

[1:01:51] scrolling. We’ll get to the bottom of the county’s personal expenses expenses. So here’s

[1:01:54] bottom of the county’s personal expenses expenses. So here’s where you’ll see your total

[1:01:55] expenses expenses. So here’s where you’ll see your total expenditures. And and then that

[1:01:56] where you’ll see your total expenditures. And and then that growing surplus deficit towards

[1:01:59] expenditures. And and then that growing surplus deficit towards the out years. And then along

[1:02:01] growing surplus deficit towards the out years. And then along with your ending fund balance

[1:02:02] the out years. And then along with your ending fund balance has that surplus continues to

[1:02:03] with your ending fund balance has that surplus continues to grow its starting into the

[1:02:06] has that surplus continues to grow its starting into the ending Fund balance. And then

[1:02:07] grow its starting into the ending Fund balance. And then as being if you scroll down a

[1:02:10] ending Fund balance. And then as being if you scroll down a little bit thank you. You see

[1:02:12] as being if you scroll down a little bit thank you. You see or serve budget fund balance

[1:02:14] little bit thank you. You see or serve budget fund balance policy to ring up to that 15%

[1:02:15] or serve budget fund balance policy to ring up to that 15% and then being reallocated back

[1:02:18] policy to ring up to that 15% and then being reallocated back into your carryforward. If you

[1:02:18] and then being reallocated back into your carryforward. If you go the initiative manager,

[1:02:21] into your carryforward. If you go the initiative manager, please.

[1:02:24] go the initiative manager, please. So this is that that have that

[1:02:24] please. So this is that that have that we’re referencing where we’ve

[1:02:25] So this is that that have that we’re referencing where we’ve already preloaded in a bunch

[1:02:28] we’re referencing where we’ve already preloaded in a bunch of the various projects

[1:02:30] already preloaded in a bunch of the various projects initiatives, potential things

[1:02:31] of the various projects initiatives, potential things that we’ve heard from

[1:02:33] initiatives, potential things that we’ve heard from conversations with the county

[1:02:35] that we’ve heard from conversations with the county team. You’ll see at the top.

[1:02:36] conversations with the county team. You’ll see at the top. It’s got that same fund balance

[1:02:38] team. You’ll see at the top. It’s got that same fund balance for men that you all have been

[1:02:38] It’s got that same fund balance for men that you all have been seeing over the course of the

[1:02:41] for men that you all have been seeing over the course of the presentation.

[1:02:44] seeing over the course of the presentation. >> I can’t see any of that.

[1:02:45] presentation. >> I can’t see any of that. Yeah. So it’s not. Yeah.

[1:02:46] >> I can’t see any of that. Yeah. So it’s not. Yeah. He said that he able to get

[1:02:47] Yeah. So it’s not. Yeah. He said that he able to get this. The county hasn’t.

[1:02:50] He said that he able to get this. The county hasn’t. Yes, this is yours.

[1:02:52] this. The county hasn’t. Yes, this is yours. >> But if you focus in on that

[1:02:54] Yes, this is yours. >> But if you focus in on that top bar, so all turn on a

[1:02:55] >> But if you focus in on that top bar, so all turn on a couple things. But if you focus

[1:02:58] top bar, so all turn on a couple things. But if you focus on the very top graphic, the

[1:02:59] couple things. But if you focus on the very top graphic, the top Iowa, you turn on animal

[1:03:03] on the very top graphic, the top Iowa, you turn on animal Services building.

[1:03:05] top Iowa, you turn on animal Services building. You see the fiscal impact of

[1:03:07] Services building. You see the fiscal impact of funding that project and then

[1:03:09] You see the fiscal impact of funding that project and then if you scroll down and turn on

[1:03:11] funding that project and then if you scroll down and turn on while keeping on the animal

[1:03:13] if you scroll down and turn on while keeping on the animal services. It’s alright because

[1:03:15] while keeping on the animal services. It’s alright because we can’t see anything anything.

[1:03:17] services. It’s alright because we can’t see anything anything. So it’s it’s a yeah, it is.

[1:03:18] we can’t see anything anything. So it’s it’s a yeah, it is. It is a dynamic. Like I said,

[1:03:20] So it’s it’s a yeah, it is. It is a dynamic. Like I said, it’s a dynamic tool where

[1:03:20] It is a dynamic. Like I said, it’s a dynamic tool where >> you turn. The switch is on.

[1:03:22] it’s a dynamic tool where >> you turn. The switch is on. You see the fiscal impact over

[1:03:24] >> you turn. The switch is on. You see the fiscal impact over time and the county has the

[1:03:26] You see the fiscal impact over time and the county has the ability to easily drop an

[1:03:27] time and the county has the ability to easily drop an additional projects. So there’s

[1:03:30] ability to easily drop an additional projects. So there’s probably 150 different lines of

[1:03:32] additional projects. So there’s probably 150 different lines of places of items scenario is

[1:03:34] probably 150 different lines of places of items scenario is that you all can incorporate in

[1:03:35] places of items scenario is that you all can incorporate in there and then have the ability

[1:03:36] that you all can incorporate in there and then have the ability and will be working with staff

[1:03:37] there and then have the ability and will be working with staff later today to get them trained

[1:03:40] and will be working with staff later today to get them trained up on the model. And as Mister

[1:03:41] later today to get them trained up on the model. And as Mister Howard said, we’re around.

[1:03:43] up on the model. And as Mister Howard said, we’re around. So if you have questions, if

[1:03:45] Howard said, we’re around. So if you have questions, if there’s needs, we’re happy to

[1:03:46] So if you have questions, if there’s needs, we’re happy to be able to fulfill those with

[1:03:48] there’s needs, we’re happy to be able to fulfill those with you all. Very good. Thank you

[1:03:49] be able to fulfill those with you all. Very good. Thank you so much. And Commissioner

[1:03:49] you all. Very good. Thank you so much. And Commissioner Pentagon, I believe you had a

[1:03:52] so much. And Commissioner Pentagon, I believe you had a question.

[1:03:53] Pentagon, I believe you had a question. >> I didn’t. I was just

[1:03:55] question. >> I didn’t. I was just falling, Mr. Howard you know,

[1:03:55] >> I didn’t. I was just falling, Mr. Howard you know, attack shift and I know you

[1:03:58] falling, Mr. Howard you know, attack shift and I know you have mentioned this a lot.

[1:03:59] attack shift and I know you have mentioned this a lot. Commissioner.

[1:03:59] have mentioned this a lot. Commissioner. >> You know, if it came to a

[1:04:02] Commissioner. >> You know, if it came to a greater reduction property

[1:04:03] >> You know, if it came to a greater reduction property taxes, people would still have

[1:04:04] greater reduction property taxes, people would still have to pay would be a shift just to

[1:04:06] taxes, people would still have to pay would be a shift just to everybody over the 500,000.

[1:04:07] to pay would be a shift just to everybody over the 500,000. It would we would have Dennis

[1:04:10] everybody over the 500,000. It would we would have Dennis View everything and then no

[1:04:12] It would we would have Dennis View everything and then no one wants to pull exemptions

[1:04:14] View everything and then no one wants to pull exemptions off. You know, it’s not been

[1:04:16] one wants to pull exemptions off. You know, it’s not been popular about people that

[1:04:18] off. You know, it’s not been popular about people that really paid no taxes, but

[1:04:18] popular about people that really paid no taxes, but that’s I’ve fear. That’s what

[1:04:20] really paid no taxes, but that’s I’ve fear. That’s what it would have to come to.

[1:04:24] that’s I’ve fear. That’s what it would have to come to. Everybody would be paying 4

[1:04:24] it would have to come to. Everybody would be paying 4 police officers. Everyone would

[1:04:25] Everybody would be paying 4 police officers. Everyone would be paying for fire. Everyone

[1:04:27] police officers. Everyone would be paying for fire. Everyone would be paying for.

[1:04:31] be paying for fire. Everyone would be paying for. >> The the the thing that makes

[1:04:34] would be paying for. >> The the the thing that makes that tough is yet in St use

[1:04:34] >> The the the thing that makes that tough is yet in St use which follow ad Valorem and

[1:04:36] that tough is yet in St use which follow ad Valorem and the exemptions.

[1:04:39] which follow ad Valorem and the exemptions. >> And then you have msbu so

[1:04:42] the exemptions. >> And then you have msbu so that how you can apply them

[1:04:43] >> And then you have msbu so that how you can apply them work different. And every thing

[1:04:44] that how you can apply them work different. And every thing that we would have to pull out,

[1:04:47] work different. And every thing that we would have to pull out, we would which. I don’t like

[1:04:48] that we would have to pull out, we would which. I don’t like because I do feel like it’s a

[1:04:48] we would which. I don’t like because I do feel like it’s a tech shift and it all comes

[1:04:51] because I do feel like it’s a tech shift and it all comes with a cost.

[1:04:52] tech shift and it all comes with a cost. >> You know, we have to hire

[1:04:52] with a cost. >> You know, we have to hire people to figure that all out

[1:04:54] >> You know, we have to hire people to figure that all out to make it legal. So if that

[1:04:58] people to figure that all out to make it legal. So if that does happen, people will not be

[1:05:00] to make it legal. So if that does happen, people will not be free. I think of paying

[1:05:01] does happen, people will not be free. I think of paying anything, but it would be very

[1:05:02] free. I think of paying anything, but it would be very expensive to the community.

[1:05:08] anything, but it would be very expensive to the community. To shift that back around.

[1:05:10] expensive to the community. To shift that back around. >> We say sometimes I’m amaka.

[1:05:12] To shift that back around. >> We say sometimes I’m amaka. I was in Tallahassee and to me

[1:05:13] >> We say sometimes I’m amaka. I was in Tallahassee and to me and told me I’m not going to

[1:05:15] I was in Tallahassee and to me and told me I’m not going to point out, but they some folks

[1:05:17] and told me I’m not going to point out, but they some folks sometimes are given the rest to

[1:05:19] point out, but they some folks sometimes are given the rest to draw course sometimes. Is it

[1:05:20] sometimes are given the rest to draw course sometimes. Is it looking like a camel? They

[1:05:22] draw course sometimes. Is it looking like a camel? They didn’t mean that. But that’s

[1:05:23] looking like a camel? They didn’t mean that. But that’s what they get at the end of

[1:05:26] didn’t mean that. But that’s what they get at the end of its. I hope the whatever

[1:05:27] what they get at the end of its. I hope the whatever they’re trying to draw that

[1:05:28] its. I hope the whatever they’re trying to draw that they draw correctly and it

[1:05:30] they’re trying to draw that they draw correctly and it doesn’t impact us. No harm us

[1:05:32] they draw correctly and it doesn’t impact us. No harm us because we don’t want to hurt

[1:05:33] doesn’t impact us. No harm us because we don’t want to hurt us in some fun that will

[1:05:35] because we don’t want to hurt us in some fun that will continue to work with our our

[1:05:37] us in some fun that will continue to work with our our friends in Tallahassee and the

[1:05:39] continue to work with our our friends in Tallahassee and the we’ll continue to find a better

[1:05:42] friends in Tallahassee and the we’ll continue to find a better path forward. That doesn’t hurt

[1:05:43] we’ll continue to find a better path forward. That doesn’t hurt anyone.

[1:05:43] path forward. That doesn’t hurt anyone. >> Well, we have roughly what?

[1:05:44] anyone. >> Well, we have roughly what? 45 million dollars in state

[1:05:49] >> Well, we have roughly what? 45 million dollars in state mandates that. I think the

[1:05:49] 45 million dollars in state mandates that. I think the lion’s share of that comes out

[1:05:51] mandates that. I think the lion’s share of that comes out of ad valorem. So I’d be very

[1:05:51] lion’s share of that comes out of ad valorem. So I’d be very open a lot in a few discussion

[1:05:53] of ad valorem. So I’d be very open a lot in a few discussion of the dose team. I think

[1:05:56] open a lot in a few discussion of the dose team. I think they’re going to rebrand the

[1:05:57] of the dose team. I think they’re going to rebrand the name. I’m always open to cost

[1:05:59] they’re going to rebrand the name. I’m always open to cost saving opportunities,

[1:06:00] name. I’m always open to cost saving opportunities, opportunities for more I’ve got

[1:06:03] saving opportunities, opportunities for more I’ve got a lot of thoughts on that

[1:06:04] opportunities for more I’ve got a lot of thoughts on that statewide.

[1:06:04] a lot of thoughts on that statewide. >> I actually had a little bit

[1:06:05] statewide. >> I actually had a little bit of a background purchasing and

[1:06:07] >> I actually had a little bit of a background purchasing and things like that. The past,

[1:06:10] of a background purchasing and things like that. The past, I think there are

[1:06:11] things like that. The past, I think there are opportunities. 2 U.S. have to

[1:06:13] I think there are opportunities. 2 U.S. have to tax dollars actually even be

[1:06:15] opportunities. 2 U.S. have to tax dollars actually even be more efficient, more effective.

[1:06:17] tax dollars actually even be more efficient, more effective. But I think you can do that on

[1:06:18] more efficient, more effective. But I think you can do that on a statewide basis. Some

[1:06:19] But I think you can do that on a statewide basis. Some programs and things like that.

[1:06:20] a statewide basis. Some programs and things like that. So I think there’s some upper

[1:06:22] programs and things like that. So I think there’s some upper teens are efficiencies all in.

[1:06:24] So I think there’s some upper teens are efficiencies all in. I told us what we want most.

[1:06:26] teens are efficiencies all in. I told us what we want most. The technology advancements

[1:06:27] I told us what we want most. The technology advancements improvements. The first one

[1:06:27] The technology advancements improvements. The first one is going to roll up my sleeves.

[1:06:28] improvements. The first one is going to roll up my sleeves. Actually. I think we were the

[1:06:31] is going to roll up my sleeves. Actually. I think we were the on the first of 3 counties that

[1:06:34] Actually. I think we were the on the first of 3 counties that voluntarily went forward and

[1:06:35] on the first of 3 counties that voluntarily went forward and said, you know, we’ve given him

[1:06:35] voluntarily went forward and said, you know, we’ve given him all the debt and things like

[1:06:36] said, you know, we’ve given him all the debt and things like that. So I’m excited about

[1:06:37] all the debt and things like that. So I’m excited about that. Those kind of

[1:06:39] that. So I’m excited about that. Those kind of opportunities and welcome those

[1:06:39] that. Those kind of opportunities and welcome those opportunities that I think when

[1:06:41] opportunities and welcome those opportunities that I think when they get here, I kind of had

[1:06:44] opportunities that I think when they get here, I kind of had discussions with them. I hope

[1:06:46] they get here, I kind of had discussions with them. I hope they find money. I found I

[1:06:47] discussions with them. I hope they find money. I found I haven’t felt all the surplus

[1:06:48] they find money. I found I haven’t felt all the surplus and everything like that.

[1:06:48] haven’t felt all the surplus and everything like that. That the state is enjoying

[1:06:51] and everything like that. That the state is enjoying right now at this point.

[1:06:52] That the state is enjoying right now at this point. So I welcome those

[1:06:54] right now at this point. So I welcome those opportunities for cost saving

[1:06:55] So I welcome those opportunities for cost saving initiatives that are beneficial

[1:06:56] opportunities for cost saving initiatives that are beneficial the community, but we still

[1:06:58] initiatives that are beneficial the community, but we still have to provide these important

[1:06:59] the community, but we still have to provide these important services to our community at a

[1:07:02] have to provide these important services to our community at a local level.

[1:07:03] services to our community at a local level. Thank you all so much for

[1:07:04] local level. Thank you all so much for having. Thank you. Thank you

[1:07:06] Thank you all so much for having. Thank you. Thank you for beating a horse.

[1:07:10] having. Thank you. Thank you for beating a horse. >> All right.

[1:07:15] for beating a horse. >> All right. Well, if there’s nothing else,

[1:07:17] >> All right. Well, if there’s nothing else, we’ll move on to our space

[1:07:20] Well, if there’s nothing else, we’ll move on to our space needs care to me.

[1:07:21] we’ll move on to our space needs care to me. Jeremy opened up to public army

[1:07:27] needs care to me. Jeremy opened up to public army I’m sorry, we’re going to go to

[1:07:28] Jeremy opened up to public army I’m sorry, we’re going to go to open to the public with anybody

[1:07:29] I’m sorry, we’re going to go to open to the public with anybody in the public. A lake to

[1:07:31] open to the public with anybody in the public. A lake to address the. Five-year

[1:07:35] in the public. A lake to address the. Five-year financial forecast

[1:07:39] address the. Five-year financial forecast come on, Eric.

[1:07:42] financial forecast come on, Eric. >> Okay. Yeah.

[1:07:47] come on, Eric. >> Okay. Yeah. >> All right. We will

[1:07:49] >> Okay. Yeah. >> All right. We will the five-year financial

[1:07:51] >> All right. We will the five-year financial forecast and we’ll move right

[1:07:54] the five-year financial forecast and we’ll move right on in and open up the workshop

[1:07:56] forecast and we’ll move right on in and open up the workshop for the space needs so that

[1:07:56] on in and open up the workshop for the space needs so that when we have a few minutes to

[1:07:58] for the space needs so that when we have a few minutes to the meeting up, sure. Thank

[1:08:01] when we have a few minutes to the meeting up, sure. Thank you. It’s not an imminent.

[1:08:02] the meeting up, sure. Thank you. It’s not an imminent. >> And we have to wait to

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